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--0-392476013-1257053749=:90261-- From larry@info.net Sun Nov 1 08:19:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:19:06 UTC Received: from mail.stanneswausau.org (24-197-228-230.static.stpt.wi.charter.com [24.197.228.230]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010833BE78 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([63.209.154.10] RDNS failed) by mail.stanneswausau.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 1 Nov 2009 02:03:14 -0600 Reply-To: From: "Barr: Larry White" Subject: LARRY WHITE& ASSOCIATES Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:02:57 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2009 08:03:15.0083 (UTC) FILETIME=[C3A5CDB0:01CA5AC9] To: undisclosed-recipients:;
LARRY WHITE& ASSOCIATES
(Will, Finance& Probate Solicitors)
Tel/Fax: 44 7035 99 1522
 
Compliment,
I know that this mail will come to you as a surprise, Please accept the content in good faith.
I do not intend to cause any grief to you and your family.
 
The reason for sending this mail is very fundamental to the doctrine of human privileges and right.
My name is Barrister Larry White a legal practitioner based in London and the personal Attorney to late Mr. Adams, a national of your country who died along with his wife and two sons who died in the Tube explosion between King's Cross-and Russell Square in London.
 
My client was a successful and is an accomplished family man, who made enough fortune before his untimely death.
Since then I had made several Inquiries through your Embassy to locate any of my clients extended relative but this exercise has proved unsuccessful.
After several unsuccessful attempts, I decided to trace his relatives through the Internet, to locate any member of his family, not much progress was recorded.
My late client was an influential wealthy businessman, an oil magnet here in London and he left behind a deposit of fifteen Million United State Dollars only 15,000,000.00 (USD) in his domiciliary bank account in a commercial bank here in London.
After the death of my client his bankers contacted me, as his Attorney to provide his next of kin who should inherit his funds.
The board of directors of his bank adopted a resolution and I was mandated to provide his next of kin for the payment of this money within 28 Working days or forfeit the money to the bank as an abandoned property.
The bankers had planned to invoke the abandoned property decree of 1996 to confiscate the funds after the expiration of the period given to me.
 
Fortunately, I came across your name, to my greatest astonishment, I discovered that you bear the same surname with my late client and coincidentally, you are national of the same country.
Being convinced that you may be related with my late client or that you might provide clue to my search, I therefore, decided to contact with these facts before me, because of the similarities.
By virtue of my closeness to the deceased and his immediate family, I am very much aware of my client financial standing and the bank account he operates.
 
I have reasoned very professionally and I feel it will be legally proper to present you as the next of kin of my deceased client, so that you can be paid the funds left in his bank account.
I therefore seek your consent to present you as the Next of Kin to the Deceased since you are at an advantage,
bearing the same surname and equally from the same country that the proceeds of this Bank Account valued at $15,000,000.00 (USD) can be paid to you. We shall both share the funds. 40% for me and 55% to you, while 5% should be for Expenses or your Government may require as Tax.
 
I shall assemble all the necessary Legal Documents that will be used to back up our claim.
All I require is your honest cooperation to enable us seeing this deal through.
I guarantee that this will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of law.
Your swift response is anticipated.
Mr. LARRY WHITE
From larry@info.net Sun Nov 1 08:19:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 482 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:19:09 UTC Received: from mail.stanneswausau.org (24-197-228-230.static.stpt.wi.charter.com [24.197.228.230]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019103BE78 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:19:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([63.209.154.10] RDNS failed) by mail.stanneswausau.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 1 Nov 2009 02:03:14 -0600 Reply-To: From: "Barr: Larry White" Subject: LARRY WHITE& ASSOCIATES Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:02:57 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2009 08:03:15.0083 (UTC) FILETIME=[C3A5CDB0:01CA5AC9] To: undisclosed-recipients:;
LARRY WHITE& ASSOCIATES
(Will, Finance& Probate Solicitors)
Tel/Fax: 44 7035 99 1522
 
Compliment,
I know that this mail will come to you as a surprise, Please accept the content in good faith.
I do not intend to cause any grief to you and your family.
 
The reason for sending this mail is very fundamental to the doctrine of human privileges and right.
My name is Barrister Larry White a legal practitioner based in London and the personal Attorney to late Mr. Adams, a national of your country who died along with his wife and two sons who died in the Tube explosion between King's Cross-and Russell Square in London.
 
My client was a successful and is an accomplished family man, who made enough fortune before his untimely death.
Since then I had made several Inquiries through your Embassy to locate any of my clients extended relative but this exercise has proved unsuccessful.
After several unsuccessful attempts, I decided to trace his relatives through the Internet, to locate any member of his family, not much progress was recorded.
My late client was an influential wealthy businessman, an oil magnet here in London and he left behind a deposit of fifteen Million United State Dollars only 15,000,000.00 (USD) in his domiciliary bank account in a commercial bank here in London.
After the death of my client his bankers contacted me, as his Attorney to provide his next of kin who should inherit his funds.
The board of directors of his bank adopted a resolution and I was mandated to provide his next of kin for the payment of this money within 28 Working days or forfeit the money to the bank as an abandoned property.
The bankers had planned to invoke the abandoned property decree of 1996 to confiscate the funds after the expiration of the period given to me.
 
Fortunately, I came across your name, to my greatest astonishment, I discovered that you bear the same surname with my late client and coincidentally, you are national of the same country.
Being convinced that you may be related with my late client or that you might provide clue to my search, I therefore, decided to contact with these facts before me, because of the similarities.
By virtue of my closeness to the deceased and his immediate family, I am very much aware of my client financial standing and the bank account he operates.
 
I have reasoned very professionally and I feel it will be legally proper to present you as the next of kin of my deceased client, so that you can be paid the funds left in his bank account.
I therefore seek your consent to present you as the Next of Kin to the Deceased since you are at an advantage,
bearing the same surname and equally from the same country that the proceeds of this Bank Account valued at $15,000,000.00 (USD) can be paid to you. We shall both share the funds. 40% for me and 55% to you, while 5% should be for Expenses or your Government may require as Tax.
 
I shall assemble all the necessary Legal Documents that will be used to back up our claim.
All I require is your honest cooperation to enable us seeing this deal through.
I guarantee that this will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of law.
Your swift response is anticipated.
Mr. LARRY WHITE
From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 1 12:12:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CD173BE7C; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257077528; bh=WKlHom1K5Irnds7YWDjpJKnmYorhoVeJsBjvTMiHEHU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=A4lzhDiImv7TpJ2dKKOrHtUop4NJck7EP1X1D91CHPy+gmUzZxr49V1p8CNAwTqEyN4HjYJc2N1YuzHY0Bjd9wkhSwYkIznF5ZnGqreDYHHwbXC+LcfytXeMVjv2BntLVwz1yhOdalaRqADCpe7Ss+iglCTyAZHY8uwA6V0CfEs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WVG6BLMWSwENuWlugUhoD/zW5xGe2wml9PawejyDqxOsuw/0TUno1R+R6kQqGu03Mo0Y32Xu/jq5t52az/gHqsZusguCQAsrGmzCIh1FVaQTaLrXlFkxKnGkK7LhIjBHe1rF+9AI4GPB7iD75WyBNtrHKLwb1S+Mg6/9VksUkmg=; Message-ID: <870611.54542.qm@web24302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: QGMolgYVM1lUBi6IzzNU37ZW6KU2rsBsZ4lrsomTCuAEG8kIeX3CmYBHbGTxYQxj5dDn3FMpI6dBneINrHhf.aVqk9jLbLPpPENdpkmezvTZZbM4tF7Eb0OxC7b5MYQ15gt_ehYUr9AT4OU1IUFSYHU0pEQ_XWMeQys7kB6nlcV1Jq24KklHFTpVdVvjGD9o0AvBc6iOCaafTE9drIq_HKEmeRnoL5oHdutU1qXCqwL5d7PwoLGmIueNa_8SiyVreKWOduolKDDHhECat.lJ52_2XxpuJarWdxUZet_R8w6.p35w04M- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 04:12:08 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: introduction To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4AEB63B1.1060501@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <985RpC.A.9LD.asX7KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Hi Nadia,=0Aid say try Mobius first by itself,ive been doing my late loopin= g with it thoguh never tried it as a plugin within a prgram, to me it seems= a great choice if u want to do the "open canvas looping" for pre-arranged = looping Ableton might be just what you need=0Acheers and welcome to the mac= hine!=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Nadia Salom schrieb am Fr, 30.10.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Nadia Salom =0A> Betreff: Re: introduction=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=0A> Datum: Freitag, 30. Oktober 2009, 15:07=0A> Wow, thank you Mr. B= oysen so much for=0A> the extensive email. It is incredibly informative. I = have=0A> done 3-4 performances already and have only used Ableton=0A> witho= ut an extra loop plug in. I just routed the many tracks=0A> into one where = I placed some effects, and then toggled the=0A> different tracks on or off.= ..w/ the mapped out keyboard, or=0A> with the mouse... it was a bit cumbers= ome. I would set the=0A> length for my MIDI loops which I would record live= , but for=0A> the Audio tracks, I couldn't figure how to do that. So I=0A> = just let my own intuition decided when the loop was over. It=0A> seemed to = work very well. It had a bit of a ethereal and=0A> random effect.=0A> The m= ore I get aware of the different techniques the=0A> better. I am using Able= ton 6 so I might be forced try the=0A> Mobius plugin. I really want to star= t switching from=0A> different loops, to provide for some variation.=0A> @F= lorian and @Warren=0A> The link I sent was just audio. I also have a video = of one=0A> performance I did. Unfortunately the camera is shaking=0A> becau= se my daughter decided to get creative while=0A> filming...There is also an= other video...=0A> =0A> Here is the link: http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07/1= 8737=0A> =0A> I hope it works.=0A> =0A> Thanks for listening=0A> best wishe= s=0A> nadia=0A> =0A> Per Boysen schrieb:=0A> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:26= PM, Nadia Salom >=0A> w= rote:=0A> > =0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0I have recently discovered the=0A> potential= of live looping as a=0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0means of realtime composition.=0A> = And am interested learning about=0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0all this technique espec= ially=0A> regarding the use of Ableton, (which=0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0still give= s me a bit of a=0A> headache.)Since I always worked very=0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0= intuitively live looping seems=0A> to be the best way to still keep=0A> >= =A0 =A0=A0=A0accessing the full potential=0A> of the moment and still orche= strate=0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0many instruments.=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > Hi,= =0A> > =0A> > And welcome to this list!=A0 :-) =0A> > Since you have Ableto= n Live you can start with the=0A> Live plugin Looper (new with Live 8.0). H= ere comes the first=0A> choice in live looping technique: Do you want to se= t the=0A> tempo for Live by starting with creating a loop with your=0A> mic= /instrument input? Or do you want to first start Live and=0A> listen for th= e tempo to play in before starting to layer=0A> audio in the Looper plugin?= These are two very different=0A> approaches. Personally I only use the fir= st one - where you=0A> create the first loop and set the tempo for all elec= tronics=0A> based on your playing - and I can't really say much about=0A> t= he other method except that it works more like usual multi=0A> track record= ing. You have to make a setting in Live's Looper=0A> plugin in order to ext= ract the tempo and set it for the=0A> application. Play around with one loo= p and learn to kick the=0A> Looper plugin into Overdub Mode and layer audio= while you=0A> control its Feedback (how much of old layers that will be=0A= > fed back into the loop) by a pedal or fader. Learn tricks=0A> like overdu= bbing one rhythm with voice/instrument while=0A> pumping a counter rhythm w= ith the feedback pedal foot to=0A> change the background layers. This very = simply setup can be=0A> taken quite far in musical terms.=0A> > =0A> > Seco= nd step in looping technique could be to use two=0A> parallel loops. This c= an be done by opening a second Looper=0A> plugin on a second track. If you = did set the first one to=0A> pick up the tempo for Live you should set this= second looper=0A> to slave to this, Live's, tempo.=0A> > =0A> > As the thi= rd step I'd like to see the technique of=0A> layering a long recording over= the span of a couple of loop=0A> repeats. This action is called "Multiply"= and is not=0A> supported by the plugin Looper in Live. My favorite looper= =0A> plugin that supports Multiply is Mobius. Create your first=0A> loop, m= ake a couple of overdubs and then chose Multiply and=0A> play/sing a line t= hat evolves while your old loop is being=0A> repeated in the background. Th= e Multiply action keeps=0A> layering your input input and making the loop l= onger until=0A> you chose Multiply a second time.=0A> > =0A> > A fourth tec= hnique may be to switch loop. Live's=0A> Looper doesn't support that, but w= ith Mobius you give a=0A> command named "Next Loop" what happens then is th= at the=0A> recent loop stops playing and a new one is starting to be=0A> cr= eated by your audio input. But maybe you want to do this=0A> jumping betwee= n alternative loops on a parallel loop, so you=0A> can always hear what you= recorded in the first loop? A=0A> typical performance scenario could then = be:=0A> > =0A> > 1. Create a rhythm pattern as the first loop.=0A> > 2. Lay= er a variation or fill into this first loop.=0A> > 3. Select a new track an= d create a new loop in=0A> parallel with more tonal material. This could be= "intro" or=0A> "verse".=0A> > 4. While still working on track 2 go Next Lo= op and=0A> create "verse 2" (rhythm on track 1/Loop 1 will be heard=0A> con= stantly)=0A> > =0A> > I think this is a much anyone can say about "looping= =0A> technique". The rest is up to you and depends on what music=0A> you wa= nt to create. You have to think about what parts of=0A> the music that will= be repeated in shorter loops and crate=0A> those parts early before multip= lying. You may also want to=0A> make loops of different lengths to create r= hythmic variation=0A> as they glide in and out of beat matching, overdubbin= g one=0A> layer in reverse mode or substituting short slices of the=0A> loo= p with new input.=0A> > =0A> > Greetings from Sweden=0A> > =0A> > Per Boyse= n=0A> > www.boysen.se =0A> > www.perboysen.com =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> =0A> =0A> -- Nadia Salom=0A> = http://www.nirmala07.net=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 1 15:42:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 000E03BE80; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 15:42:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qyEFmrgknpwMaJkvYddrG97mEoTAlj+KBGvJJ4GWTBI=; b=eI9L+fDHSqhikik6V4i54ndum68TeHpup+YazhQ9Z9I5gFROuL2Uv0ROu+dmyWk7/V hyxlTRIPqj4SGBtJNFCwLbo7ysr+kmqP+Pu4kzdyg1j8B92LAK5pHp5dK4jpxqW6mo9W IyDkXa4oKxMCPcqFQ9gLoq5qXWP31wzxZrBBA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=okBII01uqjO4J7kgg6y4HuXeAZ9tswxSCmxSWUXzzGOVjiQ4cl/AzLszIkUiMqWPhi Eil3BGAtAwwMa+FPAO9LRppeOwrz2s6zDLJIROdE/ynLpFe2MoE69qYfQhWIwwv5F/2u 0dApFCvSUI8BPLw4+OfQtP3W+Es8DFkxhQo1Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:42:58 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8f7d073ce74bc282 Message-ID: <101191640911010742w294f1af3ydd60fa54989b4fbb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: CDDB Genres and other questions From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 15:42:58 +0000 (UTC) So I have a new CD that I've mentioned here before. I want to submit the Album info and track names to CDDB, I guess via iTunes. I'm sure some folks here have experience with this. 1) Is there an official list of genres and sub-genres published somewhere? 2) If you know my stuff, or If you have a chance to listen to the tunes on the purple playlist at http://warrensirota.com, what suggestions would you have for me? (I apologize for the inevitably self-promoting aspects of this question. I mean it as an honest inquiry into something that has bewildered me for quite a while and I need to answer). 3) How do you submit cover art to these databases? or is that just connected with being in the iTunes (or other) store? Thanks for any help you can offer, Warren From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 1 18:54:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 213F03BE81; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:53:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=oisaVKkPQNdtt30UQX9M5B+A6ebcOXiUArN1U2vVadM=; b=oEe+EI6hQCcx8Wm1EbvElwOgWLpiRl/dgeRue9I0FD4OM53eUK0/eIBHOAgBYxQVvc JwwoEpR9Lo3rdGplSE4IdqJfb5oA9gO0YYgoF4izyuzSzCileNDCqFRM6dkCMJotFqzN 6uyurZJPdO9YsNpMXeuT/0RPCHdlAZ7WDg494= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=dEICHB4Ao/HLXU7Z1YD+tMXQWeRyJ9Sb++jWD2ijjNzEzA1OT2f8KLPE5Khzobw7n2 eUPQYNk1FLjGljVRbEP7SjS4/dMVBq0CER7Sb9+/Io6CnaMKLvpxOdpwPNDCqIIh8aFv lmf20JDb9wjD5+XGY387hwdS1zyUl4wuAM340= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:53:43 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Advice for DL-4 home repair From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd21722be2edc047753c79e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:53:48 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd21722be2edc047753c79e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi all, As some of you witnessed, the "record" button of my DL-4 fell apart during my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the pedal. I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be an easy fix. The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it's still stuck to something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid 4 black screws and one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts around the inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be held in by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like modeling type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out? This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more out of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job. -- Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt --000e0cd21722be2edc047753c79e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all,

As some of you witnessed, the "record" button of = my DL-4 fell apart during my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the= pedal.

I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be= an easy fix. The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it= 9;s still stuck to something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I'= ve undid 4 black screws and one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the= black bolts around the inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip b= oard seems to be held in by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dial= s for things like modeling type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out?=

This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or m= ore out of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job.

--
Matt Davignon
www.r= ibosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/= user/ribosomematt
--000e0cd21722be2edc047753c79e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 1 18:59:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0CF63BE81; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257101967; bh=Y3dxaSwcfZT5oWa/SAxSf2LL4kHFIVlb1+60RCE92HQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Y0gZlinEdBHB66OrrOp8JVP1jMNxOhxBmJrMZxPsZyQKVCz0wqNZMxTzWj6pTylQojnk6keL+wxlIQVxYuvwYkYRUDnVBmQhrpVU+B2deILKvoSmf9aNKuGJqMG7iSIJv1FOjT6fytQkE0UpjwbBdYn3MrJB8fxmaQA4e+5rAOY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EYsrvBaU5lvpR2h6V02eUvAYhTPdPtZQm+2sV1bNhTGnoiWhqLxNKtY59Cp28D0piMS3hXP2NaIhpvINdyuA773RIO1gTo/EMOjwRHPPhwbM02IFWQo71jb0Mnxf9oKBpcDfvKo1UPvJdtDK+6sAEdg7DAx1ZWqZ3rhvBGUEKOI=; Message-ID: <503564.10719.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: scK96PwVM1mKuBy7SDIawy350VdEalHuYwUUTlC6D7.zGbP.Aa1d.9FbO4VbucSC3fRMYZciumNyUG8rIFJBE.Vjs3gTkJgOk_MK7dAGUoXms_GR8REuT6b9IbcDllMh0ZQm9c03wCl0GFZIDhiXb0lEjMcfeZXUIKzXsni5Vy7rFWHOrUFVODaaE6YENsr59zV_uCBXP6tXELJBzqwi3WnjqQwaaWwPMdzOrn5tSoeMWR0OuQaCTNr5o.a8vjNUqY1.42iDwo1_Crcvzz3tjHu0PwLdYP4qNFuJoSkebOO23DEQmdBdZgXf3w-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:59:27 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: Advice for DL-4 home repair To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <_ZP4RB.A.5zE.Qqd7KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:59:28 +0000 (UTC) yeap,welcome to china town!=0A=0A> This is frustrating, because if the chip= board was 1/4"=0A> higher or more out of the way, this would be a 20 minute= =0A> repair job. =0A> =0A> -- =0A> Matt Davignon=0A> www.ribosomemusic.com= =0A> =0A> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 1 18:59:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC0983BE7F; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_YA3uMpfc3WHzxuI9lgEnfQ)" Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: Advice for DL-4 home repair Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:59:57 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:59:59 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_YA3uMpfc3WHzxuI9lgEnfQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Yes there's a good chance it's the potentiometers connected to the dials. There's also an off chance that there is a screw someplace that you haven't seen yet. I've fixed many electronic devices and the screws will fool ya. toby ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:53 AM Subject: Advice for DL-4 home repair Hi all, As some of you witnessed, the "record" button of my DL-4 fell apart during my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the pedal. I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be an easy fix. The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it's still stuck to something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid 4 black screws and one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts around the inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be held in by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like modeling type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out? This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more out of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job. -- Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt --Boundary_(ID_YA3uMpfc3WHzxuI9lgEnfQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Yes there's a good chance it's the potentiometers connected to the dials. 
There's also an off chance that there is a screw someplace that you haven't seen yet.  I've fixed many electronic devices and the screws will fool ya.
 
toby
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: Advice for DL-4 home repair

Hi all,

As some of you witnessed, the "record" button of my DL-4 fell apart during my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the pedal.

I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be an easy fix. The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it's still stuck to something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid 4 black screws and one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts around the inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be held in by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like modeling type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out?

This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more out of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job.

--
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
--Boundary_(ID_YA3uMpfc3WHzxuI9lgEnfQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 1 19:17:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB5413BE7E; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=P24FykdO0vTI8QLT9hlEYHrUcqlMAQhVQzth8HtJhCY=; b=L2Lgm1+JuFab+DPlEVJ3QBvfXGWH0xg7Jko9gnW5+AhyZNxNo84m8NdbC4tPgweHZx jJNT3/qfegEWAgcdrIacmOMagpKsvlWAuUl8ZMC9yrmO+QA7YUYqm+YvLMYbSJfcWtcK SqvO63kJnizmbyxoWMWKObInuZSuaTqjh+Wug= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=wFPVLnqOBZABJnOMbcTJ0sTxrPtPX8tbNF9cAcyDvZoVpPzabmM7wcc5+oWKfbIUL0 6d667GT5g1g2IfWegFlNBy0LCMcqb+RwHeZEqBWk7xEcROVjnSz+9fGalTwO/2JKgTS2 wGPfuZzy9kg73ENrDYdy11dlqG8xWOclLlLKA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <101191640911010742w294f1af3ydd60fa54989b4fbb@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640911010742w294f1af3ydd60fa54989b4fbb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 14:17:39 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 280349e7df18ed46 Message-ID: <101191640911011117v1c0d3ebbj5e778064ae3f134c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: CDDB Genres and other questions From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Rainer informs me (and someone else has before, I just forgot) that that jukebox app won't work outside the US! So here are a couple of mp3 links from the CD: http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/KickinBack.mp3 http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/afrique2.mp3 http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/ghosttown.mp3 http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/ramble.mp3 thx, Warren On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > So I have a new CD that I've mentioned here before. > > I want to submit the Album info and track names to CDDB, I guess via > iTunes. I'm sure some folks here have experience with this. > > 1) Is there an official list of genres and sub-genres published somewhere? > 2) If you know my stuff, or If you have a chance to listen to the > tunes on the purple playlist at http://warrensirota.com, what > suggestions would you have for me? (I apologize for the inevitably > self-promoting aspects of this question. I mean it as an honest > inquiry into something that has bewildered me for quite a while and I > need to answer). > 3) How do you submit cover art to these databases? or is that just > connected with being in the iTunes (or other) store? > > Thanks for any help you can offer, > Warren > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 1 23:56:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4E2F3BE7F; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 23:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <101191640911010742w294f1af3ydd60fa54989b4fbb@mail.gmail.com> <101191640911011117v1c0d3ebbj5e778064ae3f134c@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: mr sirota"s "loops, live and otw" Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:56:32 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.109.212 In-Reply-To: <101191640911011117v1c0d3ebbj5e778064ae3f134c@mail.gmail.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CC29661299175F_1D9C_7E01_webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 28878-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CC2966128F91DF-1D9C-3C11@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 23:56:46 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CC29661299175F_1D9C_7E01_webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" gave warren's "LOOPS, LIVE AND OTW" another spin today.....what a delight= , the playing is tight, wonderful timbre, xcellent recording chops.....gre= at job warren!!!!!.....loved "a day at the circus", sweet.....i will give= this cd many more listens.....:)m =20 =20 =20 ----------MB_8CC29661299175F_1D9C_7E01_webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
gave wa= rren's "LOOPS, LIVE AND OTW" another spin today.....what a delight, the pl= aying is tight, wonderful timbre, xcellent recording chops.....great job= warren!!!!!.....loved "a day at the circus", sweet.....i will give this= cd many more listens.....:)m




----------MB_8CC29661299175F_1D9C_7E01_webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 00:25:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3211E3BE78; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DzrETN9wC6x2fktWotTBwKhMxo9Ddsp5m/9kg90PHT0=; b=J5huccXMmMaRfI3T/SLlT4EMyoiZFXa1hqDfkmGnkRiOSlxpzaIIvjQaeMjrB+Tg0V wF7dCdXEXdHxCABT6YRWOBX3b12g59K1czZc50OP1P0NLt00dAtpEVDhOve8gi8TY8nq 4QVu//CkZWsuUQ10WEqcZ5E8N1CeLMJikdLyc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bOygl0cj2kc+5VLi7clpI3SnCpSwZGmlxUsrGIShF5y0V+7V4DiOFA0XnZyvH33KuZ L333QfLyCzBRK8meRgVY58M6mJcElcJBltgy/+3MDRXZhdHXYt6ZZqiL2mgZjJ+NHuqm T/bxQ+/DLtDFFwEnTJCzpiahCYQP4fdDejKjM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 16:25:42 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Advice for DL-4 home repair From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd217220016940477586bc1 Resent-Message-ID: <_sGrl.A.GuH.Ici7KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:25:44 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd217220016940477586bc1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I almost missed the hex screw at first, since it doesn't really look like a screw. All I can see on my side of the chip board now is the ROM chip, a potentiometer for the "mode" dial, two wires to the battery compartment, and a bunch of solder spots. Something other than those elements is locking the board down, or it would be a little more flexible. It may be the dials...so, how do I get them off? Do I just force 'em with a pair of pliers? -- Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Toby G wrote: > Yes there's a good chance it's the potentiometers connected to the > dials. > There's also an off chance that there is a screw someplace that you haven't > seen yet. I've fixed many electronic devices and the screws will fool ya. > > toby > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Matt Davignon > *To:* Loopers Delight > *Sent:* Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:53 AM > *Subject:* Advice for DL-4 home repair > > Hi all, > > As some of you witnessed, the "record" button of my DL-4 fell apart during > my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the pedal. > > I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be an easy fix. > The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it's still stuck to > something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid 4 black screws and > one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts around the > inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be held in > by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like modeling > type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out? > > This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more out > of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job. > > -- > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > --000e0cd217220016940477586bc1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I almost missed the hex screw at first, since it doesn't really look li= ke a screw. All I can see on my side of the chip board now is the ROM chip,= a potentiometer for the "mode" dial, two wires to the battery co= mpartment, and a bunch of solder spots. Something other than those elements= is locking the board down, or it would be a little more flexible.

It may be the dials...so, how do I get them off? Do I just force 'e= m with a pair of pliers?

--
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Toby G <carpet8@mac.com>= ; wrote:
Yes there's a good chance it's= the potentiometers=20 connected to the dials.=A0
There's also an off chance that th= ere is a screw=20 someplace that you haven't seen yet.=A0 I've fixed many electronic = devices=20 and the screws will fool ya.
=A0
toby
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Matt=20 Davignon
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 10= :53=20 AM
Subject: Advice for DL-4 home=20 repair

Hi all,

As some of you witnessed, the "record= " button=20 of my DL-4 fell apart during my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fi= x the=20 pedal.

I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should b= e an=20 easy fix. The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it'= s still=20 stuck to something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid= 4 black=20 screws and one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts ar= ound=20 the inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be h= eld=20 in by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like=20 modeling type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out?

This is= =20 frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more out of= the way,=20 this would be a 20 minute repair job.

--
Matt= =20 Davignon
ww= w.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt



--000e0cd217220016940477586bc1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 00:33:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AE803BE80; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zRV0wiRw3oKGAKQTx2OLAvxKYqoVegwX6e2edeK3K/k=; b=QZJdsUSPIuDS+4o95RROuJ5/VwwSXWWeU2WyTVUUIHJ1tebgfX3uP0oZrUgsl5AxVJ PZsvQAiSznfIBVO0dL1Apk0NLAwP6uZfvVmc0+xb0fqo5I4dncNFNVh03gGcBkFVkIZu 3D+lBxfKye+bNndF1aKTB0deFV5LcKxAnFgqA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ILm2w1eDaZyxLEWkzPknSghfCv6i/F64aMr6H7r8TL2kWXkspKp3WcFzr6mR7VLyRh 5YJuho2bsn9EdrpIa7HFMce1NlQrUgU6o0BbdqR5ctzQr0VCRI5B3m5h9keolw7V5KrQ YkYYpGWIL8LG9M80/Zv51wUQhciomPqT2TkHg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <8CC2966128F91DF-1D9C-3C11@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> References: <101191640911010742w294f1af3ydd60fa54989b4fbb@mail.gmail.com> <101191640911011117v1c0d3ebbj5e778064ae3f134c@mail.gmail.com> <8CC2966128F91DF-1D9C-3C11@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:33:28 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3e1780cb933b4a6f Message-ID: <101191640911011633q70eb8283wf8d17b1e235c7bec@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: mr sirota"s "loops, live and otw" From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Aw shucks, Mike - I really appreciate you taking the time to say that, and I hope you really enjoy it. Thanks. On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 6:56 PM, wrote: > gave warren's "LOOPS, LIVE AND OTW" another spin today.....what a delight, > the playing is tight, wonderful timbre, xcellent recording chops.....great > job warren!!!!!.....loved "a day at the circus", sweet.....i will give this > cd many more listens.....:)m - so, if you had to choose a category for this, what would you say? I found a list of official id3v1 genres for mp3 files, but was unable to find a list of official gracenote genres and sub-genres (am not now convinced there is such a thing). Here's what I found for the id3v1, below. so what's my cd: 47? 23? 109? 119? 0.Blues 1.Classic Rock 2.Country 3.Dance 4.Disco 5.Funk 6.Grunge 7.Hip-Hop 8.Jazz 9.Metal 10.New Age 11.Oldies 12.Other 13.Pop 14.R&B 15.Rap 16.Reggae 17.Rock 18.Techno 19.Industrial 20.Alternative 21.Ska 22.Death Metal 23.Pranks 24.Soundtrack 25.Euro-Techno 26.Ambient 27.Trip-Hop 28.Vocal 29.Jazz+Funk 30.Fusion 31.Trance 32.Classical 33.Instrumental 34.Acid 35.House 36.Game 37.Sound Clip 38.Gospel 39.Noise 40.AlternRock 41.Bass 42.Soul 43.Punk 44.Space 45.Meditative 46.Instrumental Pop 47.Instrumental Rock 48.Ethnic 49.Gothic 50.Darkwave 51.Techno-Industrial 52.Electronic 53.Pop-Folk 54.Eurodance 55.Dream 56.Southern Rock 57.Comedy 58.Cult 59.Gangsta 60.Top 40 61.Christian Rap 62.Pop/Funk 63.Jungle 64.Native American 65.Cabaret 66.New Wave 67.Psychadelic 68.Rave 69.Showtunes 70.Trailer 71.Lo-Fi 72.Tribal 73.Acid Punk 74.Acid Jazz 75.Polka 76.Retro 77.Musical 78.Rock & Roll 79.Hard Rock The following genres are Winamp extensions 80.Folk 81.Folk-Rock 82.National Folk 83.Swing 84.Fast Fusion 85.Bebob 86.Latin 87.Revival 88.Celtic 89.Bluegrass 90.Avantgarde 91.Gothic Rock 92.Progressive Rock 93.Psychedelic Rock 94.Symphonic Rock 95.Slow Rock 96.Big Band 97.Chorus 98.Easy Listening 99.Acoustic 100.Humour 101.Speech 102.Chanson 103.Opera 104.Chamber Music 105.Sonata 106.Symphony 107.Booty Bass 108.Primus 109.Porn Groove 110.Satire 111.Slow Jam 112.Club 113.Tango 114.Samba 115.Folklore 116.Ballad 117.Power Ballad 118.Rhythmic Soul 119.Freestyle 120.Duet 121.Punk Rock 122.Drum Solo 123.A capella 124.Euro-House 125.Dance Hall From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 02:18:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9B7E3BE7F; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 02:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:18:49 UTC Message-ID: <13212.65.48.1257127931.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: References: <003d01ca56d5$c024f230$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 22:12:11 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: POSTING Y2K9 COMMENTS AND/OR REVIEWS (Was Re: Y2K9 sampler video) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 02:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Hey All, I got back home(Barbados) Tuesday morning at 1:30am after leaving Toledo, Ohio at 4:00am Monday. At least half of that time was spent in the airports in Chicago and Miami. I know this is probably the norm for most of you, but it was pure torture for me. I hate airports and struggled to stay awake. Would I do this again? Oh Yeah!! Looking forward to it already. I had a great time at the show, and hanging out and jamming at Rick's. I'm from a fairly small island, and it's quite challenging finding other artists that are interested in trying new things, far less a place where you can actually watch such shows. I'd just like to thank Rick and Chris for having me in their home, and to Bill for bailing me out of my laptop disaster, and restringing Rick's bass. Thanks to all that played at this fest, it was truly inspiring to be a part of this looping communion. Hope to see you again on the next loop. Andre www.andredonawa.com On Tue, October 27, 2009 11:03 am, tEd ® KiLLiAn wrote: > Michael, > > Speaking for myself (and perhaps a few others), some of us are just > tired old farts who have been going to the festival every year since > it's inception and have filled the Loopers' Delight archive every year > with kudus, reviews and discussions of it to the point that perhaps > we've a sense that people are tired of hearing from us about it. > > Or maybe we're just tired . . . I know I am . . . and would like to > hear someone else talk about it. > > As always . . . Rick & Co. did a fabulous job putting it on, and an > outstanding job of gathering talent from around the world . . . all of > which at a general financial loss personally (not to mention > dedication of time, loss of sleep and frequent peace of mind). > > Every performer in attendance had his or her moments of brilliance. > > A few had their struggles with tech "gremlins" and the "brilliant > part" was in how they dealt with it. > > But **particular** standouts (for me) were Lilli Lewis, Jim Thomas, > Bill Walker, (yourself) Michael Peters, DCO, Sjaak Overgaauw, Kevin > Kalimbaman Spears and Andre Donawa, Daryl Shawn and Jim Goodin, > bassista Ariane Cap, and the vocal duo of Laurel Murphy and Ryan Slemko. > > In addition, Daniel Thomas (& son) had his best set ever, as did > Warren Sirota, Matt Davignon and our own Stanosaur (more felt than > heard). > > Many first-timers at the fest also put in memorable sets, including > Nat Grant, Electro Funkadelica, and Organamatonic. > > I was also absolutely knocked-out by Julia > Entertainmentforthebraindead Kotowski from Cologne. > > It's too hard to write and post this stuff though, because as soon as > you do, you think of someone else you missed and you're afraid of > possible hurt feelings. > > I'll push the button and send this anyway and hope that anyone I > missed forgives me . . . or can simply dismiss me as an old fart. > > Best regards to all, > > Ted Killian > > On Oct 27, 2009, at 12:18 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > >> p.s. I'm surprised that there are hardly any postings about this >> festival on >> the LD list. It was one of the most exciting and memorable musical >> events I >> can remember. Meeting old friends (some of them for the first time) >> and new >> friends, talking with many interesting people, lots and lots of >> incredible >> music and inspiration. Thanks so much to Rick and of course also to >> Chris, >> Bill, and Nancy for having us. > > Andre Donawa Barbados Guitar School Woodside Gardens Bay St. St. Michael Barbados 11157 Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) 246 436 8294 (School) http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 02:55:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A7453BE7E; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 02:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=q41O7OuslifYvgcE1M9cKaS3kB+GBhtdxlht3WeX/x0=; b=jhoT27RhqXxEuNwe06AvWD8zqmEKmssg3FjrwlIFO5zJOMVxgpnldCTls0nRLrRVrT WYjRTcpk9NtCt8PaITi9JAYAIQ7fNDmKGQVq/eCCjY4xzXgvjko6vxnmgoHwtHaWzcO4 ZdUn7wm316WpoI8GqObkifJGLhdOyPi96/tDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TAJD1IH/U/8zLFvy0n7jSzCg/RnaETRV+Cdc3/FH6zzTKFmqy50riPuySlNxyQ3DP1 3WU03HC7LAp8bPbEQC6mZWOr47P//a3dbl9k5OPd8yQV5Ph9pWZvCCGE0FdSU+Cim+ch 4E+vpBt2DwJ5AWNSx8n+KUPZnf5+SrxqhmV4M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640911011633q70eb8283wf8d17b1e235c7bec@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640911010742w294f1af3ydd60fa54989b4fbb@mail.gmail.com> <101191640911011117v1c0d3ebbj5e778064ae3f134c@mail.gmail.com> <8CC2966128F91DF-1D9C-3C11@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> <101191640911011633q70eb8283wf8d17b1e235c7bec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:55:08 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0911011855y7985e749ycb4f14bcfcba74f4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: mr sirota"s "loops, live and otw" From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 02:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Part of me says go with 22 and 59. You got the look, so mess with people. : ) On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Warren Sirota wrote= : > Aw shucks, Mike - I really appreciate you taking the time to > say that, and I hope you really enjoy it. Thanks. > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 6:56 PM, =A0 wrote: >> gave warren's "LOOPS, LIVE AND OTW" another spin today.....what a deligh= t, >> the playing is tight, wonderful timbre, xcellent recording chops.....gre= at >> job warren!!!!!.....loved "a day at the circus", sweet.....i will give t= his >> cd many more listens.....:)m > > =A0- so, if you had to choose a category for this, what would you say? > > I found a list of official id3v1 genres for mp3 files, but was unable > to find a list of official gracenote genres and sub-genres (am not now > convinced there is such a thing). Here's what I found for the id3v1, > below. > > so what's my cd: 47? 23? 109? 119? > > 0.Blues > =A0 =A0 =A01.Classic Rock > =A0 =A0 =A02.Country > =A0 =A0 =A03.Dance > =A0 =A0 =A04.Disco > =A0 =A0 =A05.Funk > =A0 =A0 =A06.Grunge > =A0 =A0 =A07.Hip-Hop > =A0 =A0 =A08.Jazz > =A0 =A0 =A09.Metal > =A0 =A0 10.New Age > =A0 =A0 11.Oldies > =A0 =A0 12.Other > =A0 =A0 13.Pop > =A0 =A0 14.R&B > =A0 =A0 15.Rap > =A0 =A0 16.Reggae > =A0 =A0 17.Rock > =A0 =A0 18.Techno > =A0 =A0 19.Industrial > =A0 =A0 20.Alternative > =A0 =A0 21.Ska > =A0 =A0 22.Death Metal > =A0 =A0 23.Pranks > =A0 =A0 24.Soundtrack > =A0 =A0 25.Euro-Techno > =A0 =A0 26.Ambient > =A0 =A0 27.Trip-Hop > =A0 =A0 28.Vocal > =A0 =A0 29.Jazz+Funk > =A0 =A0 30.Fusion > =A0 =A0 31.Trance > =A0 =A0 32.Classical > =A0 =A0 33.Instrumental > =A0 =A0 34.Acid > =A0 =A0 35.House > =A0 =A0 36.Game > =A0 =A0 37.Sound Clip > =A0 =A0 38.Gospel > =A0 =A0 39.Noise > =A0 =A0 40.AlternRock > =A0 =A0 41.Bass > =A0 =A0 42.Soul > =A0 =A0 43.Punk > =A0 =A0 44.Space > =A0 =A0 45.Meditative > =A0 =A0 46.Instrumental Pop > =A0 =A0 47.Instrumental Rock > =A0 =A0 48.Ethnic > =A0 =A0 49.Gothic > =A0 =A0 50.Darkwave > =A0 =A0 51.Techno-Industrial > =A0 =A0 52.Electronic > =A0 =A0 53.Pop-Folk > =A0 =A0 54.Eurodance > =A0 =A0 55.Dream > =A0 =A0 56.Southern Rock > =A0 =A0 57.Comedy > =A0 =A0 58.Cult > =A0 =A0 59.Gangsta > =A0 =A0 60.Top 40 > =A0 =A0 61.Christian Rap > =A0 =A0 62.Pop/Funk > =A0 =A0 63.Jungle > =A0 =A0 64.Native American > =A0 =A0 65.Cabaret > =A0 =A0 66.New Wave > =A0 =A0 67.Psychadelic > =A0 =A0 68.Rave > =A0 =A0 69.Showtunes > =A0 =A0 70.Trailer > =A0 =A0 71.Lo-Fi > =A0 =A0 72.Tribal > =A0 =A0 73.Acid Punk > =A0 =A0 74.Acid Jazz > =A0 =A0 75.Polka > =A0 =A0 76.Retro > =A0 =A0 77.Musical > =A0 =A0 78.Rock & Roll > =A0 =A0 79.Hard Rock > > =A0 The following genres are Winamp extensions > > =A0 =A0 80.Folk > =A0 =A0 81.Folk-Rock > =A0 =A0 82.National Folk > =A0 =A0 83.Swing > =A0 =A0 84.Fast Fusion > =A0 =A0 85.Bebob > =A0 =A0 86.Latin > =A0 =A0 87.Revival > =A0 =A0 88.Celtic > =A0 =A0 89.Bluegrass > =A0 =A0 90.Avantgarde > =A0 =A0 91.Gothic Rock > =A0 =A0 92.Progressive Rock > =A0 =A0 93.Psychedelic Rock > =A0 =A0 94.Symphonic Rock > =A0 =A0 95.Slow Rock > =A0 =A0 96.Big Band > =A0 =A0 97.Chorus > =A0 =A0 98.Easy Listening > =A0 =A0 99.Acoustic > =A0 =A0100.Humour > =A0 =A0101.Speech > =A0 =A0102.Chanson > =A0 =A0103.Opera > =A0 =A0104.Chamber Music > =A0 =A0105.Sonata > =A0 =A0106.Symphony > =A0 =A0107.Booty Bass > =A0 =A0108.Primus > =A0 =A0109.Porn Groove > =A0 =A0110.Satire > =A0 =A0111.Slow Jam > =A0 =A0112.Club > =A0 =A0113.Tango > =A0 =A0114.Samba > =A0 =A0115.Folklore > =A0 =A0116.Ballad > =A0 =A0117.Power Ballad > =A0 =A0118.Rhythmic Soul > =A0 =A0119.Freestyle > =A0 =A0120.Duet > =A0 =A0121.Punk Rock > =A0 =A0122.Drum Solo > =A0 =A0123.A capella > =A0 =A0124.Euro-House > =A0 =A0125.Dance Hall > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 06:20:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26AB83BE7F; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 06:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: MIDI Looping Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 22:20:38 -0800 Message-Id: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 06:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Are there any MIDI loopers that recognize when you've played the same sequence of notes (modulo minor timing and velocity variations) more than once and automatically turn it into a loop? Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 08:01:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE0163BE82; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9AUvd1vkK7MB939dn4W9wLxVv0LiCXqoiyq7jW6Z9d8=; b=s9wKmeHLzhJw97EjqhQ1yQ1d5Yv6bsS2hNivpYl6rbJx+dc6QpneEPsS3RFexpxML/ 4YRPDwvustMzfFbb7dOVPuHKxBgTDLXBQpHvgjLHsCPBMHI6cbBBUncZ0sDi5PacMxUa ycHMSDvN6E+JKd+oN1A20sCXGqh0E3q3O+clw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nws6Plvl/aLjHUt57dvyJt5JfXqeS1Bhoe9IToCiEIqIFszOE79q0oYha5n6qmO5NN tAkl0MVqZ/RVj+e3L22iNkT1sUf/A3efxSlifMQKkR3yPwHS2SQbdhkFs2WrtrMUVfkn y9h7ojqZB4y1eFFwqL5QAMdW/azCqeT0FQnSE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <453AED8BB65D487CA8DC17DE5DECAC8B@williamsteed> References: <453AED8BB65D487CA8DC17DE5DECAC8B@williamsteed> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:01:14 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Advice for DL-4 home repair From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd290b21f3d9304775ec89a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:01:16 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd290b21f3d9304775ec89a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bill Walker had the answer. He was like: > Yep , The black dial knobs themselves have to come off the front panel, > use a pair of pliers to gently yet firmly grab them and pull up. > > Bill > Thanks Bill! > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Matt Davignon [mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:54 AM > *To:* Loopers Delight > > *Subject:* Advice for DL-4 home repair > > > > Hi all, > > As some of you witnessed, the "record" button of my DL-4 fell apart during > my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the pedal. > > I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be an easy fix. > The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it's still stuck to > something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid 4 black screws and > one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts around the > inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be held in > by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like modeling > type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out? > > This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more out > of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job. > > -- > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > -- Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt --000e0cd290b21f3d9304775ec89a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill Walker had the answer. He was like:

Yep , The blac= k dial knobs themselves have to come off the front panel, =A0use a pair of pliers to gently yet firmly g= rab them and pull up.

=A0Bill=

Thanks Bill!

= =A0

From: Matt Davignon [mailto:mattdav= ignon@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 01,= 2009 10:54 AM
To: Loopers Delight


Subject: Advice for DL-4 h= ome repair

=A0

Hi all,


As some of you witnessed, the "record" button of my DL-4 fell apa= rt during my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the pedal.

I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be an easy fix. Th= e trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it's still stuck to something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid 4 black sc= rews and one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts around the inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be held in= by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like modeling t= ype, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out?

This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more = out of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job.

--
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusi= c.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt




--
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/riboso= mematt
--000e0cd290b21f3d9304775ec89a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 08:57:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B21B3BE82; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:57:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AEE9F1B.6040006@het.it> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:58:03 +0100 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: introduction References: <4AEB21E3.7060907@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4AEB21E3.7060907@gmx.de> Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------090205050301060900060300" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:57:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090205050301060900060300 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Nadia Welcome to the looper dome!
Max Liver!

Nadia Salom ha scritto:
hello, I just joined this list and would like to introduce myself. I am an art student in Braunschweig Germany. My focus is mainly on composition and performance with the use of the voice. I am studying with Prof. Ulrich Eller in the Sound Art Class here.

I have recently discovered the potential of live looping as a means of realtime composition. And am interested learning about all this technique especially regarding the use of Ableton, (which still gives me a bit of a headache.)Since I always worked very intuitively live looping seems to be the best way to still keep accessing the full potential of the moment and still orchestrate many instruments.

my setup: mobile PA- Set (on rolls) w/ microphone, MacBookPro, Ableton, midi keyboard, and my voice... I can just about it carry it all by self... just dont have a car yet.

Thank you to those who set up the listserver and the very imformative website.

If anyone is interested in listening to some of my work, it is located on ubetoo. Here is one version of a song that seems to change everytime I play it.

http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07/21701

best wishes,

Nadia Salom
nirmala07




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luq8b6zZL//pf/v6v//83//+//8A8U/gQIIFDR5EmFDhQoYJAwIAOw== --------------090205050301060900060300-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 09:16:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34CC93BE79; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:16:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AEEA372.6030607@mnet-online.de> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:16:34 +0100 From: Florian Anwander User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI Looping References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at gw2.consol.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:16:07 +0000 (UTC) Hi Mark > Are there any MIDI loopers that recognize when you've played the same > sequence of notes (modulo minor timing and velocity variations) more > than once and automatically turn it into a loop? Unfortunately: no. I am looking for some but the only thing which works on the MIDI-level similar like a looper is Ableton Live. Any kind of loop-autorecognition is not available. But that would be quite difficult to achieve. Example: you plan a repeating phrase of two bars, which starts with two identical notes -> The looper would think of the first two as loop. This (extreme) example can be extended to any other dimension. The result will be that you will be forced again to predefine a looplength. Florian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 09:33:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4631E3BE80; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:33:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rMrPhbI+dwLr4X6IXiGuq246knRZn4lSzbqljNLkpGc=; b=SRZ4WfrQRCu04twBuEo8zJXOxaWYypokap3tRkAxW7rachlDTC7o5cXjMHWe0JcsK9 lwhqmDUEpUb57DiRordqT1KGfHEHklyi+wOdIisMnWmTiSkn2+CPGgqPVSRoFUcq/r83 NLe5+RHAhcd74dHQxEqrthPCBuZ9WxRpsKc10= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RD2wm9h2cfgNrHk1PFpOKD+/MDL0SicQfj0SWhhu0vJXQyLmdx+PQxlF/119EHtjMv W2gmKDez4GSZlrL80jmEYwgypCGqr0ZDs9bWWwtfi6FJqoJHh/6drabqszhLwJWCHyQ+ 5v/0zEhYHOlC0Y45GqX7usBrop0QIe3/l4P3Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4AEEA372.6030607@mnet-online.de> References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> <4AEEA372.6030607@mnet-online.de> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:33:14 +0300 Message-ID: <20aeede50911020133s2400c7adj297405a0a8896366@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI Looping From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f6daf82de7f6047760116d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:33:17 +0000 (UTC) --001485f6daf82de7f6047760116d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not necessarily. The thing that typically comes to mind is that if three first notes match in the next bar - it is a loop. Smth like that. But you will have to define a bar anyway. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Florian Anwander wrote: > Hi Mark > > > Are there any MIDI loopers that recognize when you've played the same >> sequence of notes (modulo minor timing and velocity variations) more than >> once and automatically turn it into a loop? >> > Unfortunately: no. > I am looking for some but the only thing which works on the MIDI-level > similar like a looper is Ableton Live. > > Any kind of loop-autorecognition is not available. But that would be quite > difficult to achieve. Example: you plan a repeating phrase of two bars, > which starts with two identical notes -> The looper would think of the first > two as loop. This (extreme) example can be extended to any other dimension. > The result will be that you will be forced again to predefine a looplength. > > Florian > > --001485f6daf82de7f6047760116d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not necessarily. The thing that typically comes to mind is that if three fi= rst notes match in the next bar - it is a loop. Smth like that. But you wil= l have to define a bar anyway.

On Mon, No= v 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Florian Anwander <fanwander@mnet-online.de> wrot= e:
Hi Mark


Are there any MIDI loopers that recognize when you've played the same s= equence of notes (modulo minor timing and velocity variations) more than on= ce and automatically turn it into a loop?
Unfortunately: no.
I am looking for some but the only thing which works on the MIDI-level simi= lar like a looper is Ableton Live.

Any kind of loop-autorecognition is not available. But that would be quite = difficult to achieve. Example: you plan a repeating phrase of two bars, whi= ch starts with two identical notes -> The looper would think of the firs= t two as loop. This (extreme) example can be extended to any other dimensio= n. The result will be that you will be forced again to predefine a loopleng= th.

Florian


--001485f6daf82de7f6047760116d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 10:37:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAD3D3BE7C; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9tJZ4BX0RiMXngXThwOnvq26JYqHPKdwYyl2kyTHXKQ=; b=HCiLc9nkmvSHoHNnfEHlce9dFXzrw20++rnQM2gxxJTgr5GNVMotBzwNZVnv3QjgUu cONOwBx3EMzF+Td9bQbQX08cTGyHNg8qV0EIE5rXBGYywtI3A+1TMz+qs8iGmh429QQd i8aVnP9OBXkakRhVm8qxPEPZdTcrQeYSmWsS4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VeiRwiWI355CL/ICSB8jwcC2foFHEPNVG2ldp5G8RKdQWvUhKA+7dDGi4BZezsmTY/ h6eRaxJlNigzlAGK8T5o/QFsbm7dky4m/HFLhbhVn6Mh3ux6ALwCoOKCOnl/z1/o7PPY LYKWnmJb/VHkHtO2D6R09YXMlp7ajnT1tVrNQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:37:38 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI Looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd7226e65c3b7047760f7f7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:37:38 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd7226e65c3b7047760f7f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I don't think so. But this is typically something I imagine can be built in MAX. Another suggestion to reach a similar effect in MIDI looping is to define certain MIDI note numbers to trig certain functions. Then you simply play those notes to give looping commands like "record", "stop recording", "new track" etc. I only know about two applications that would let incoming MIDI note define actions for MIDI looping: Logic and Ableton Live. Both applications offer extensive MIDI data filtering and MIDI data transformation. Logic will be using its global cycle mode for looping, which means all loops has to be of the same length. Ableton Live offers individual lengths for all loops, if you use the Mix View. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > Are there any MIDI loopers that recognize when you've played the same > sequence of notes (modulo minor timing and velocity variations) more than > once and automatically turn it into a loop? > --000e0cd7226e65c3b7047760f7f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't think so. But this is typically something I imagine can be buil= t in MAX.

Another suggestion to reach a similar effect in MIDI loopi= ng is to define certain MIDI note numbers to trig certain functions. Then y= ou simply play those notes to give looping commands like "record"= , "stop recording", "new track" etc.

I only know about two applications that would let incoming MIDI note de= fine actions for MIDI looping: Logic and Ableton Live. Both applications of= fer extensive MIDI data filtering and MIDI data transformation. Logic will = be using its global cycle mode for looping, which means all loops has to be= of the same length. Ableton Live offers individual lengths for all loops, = if you use the Mix View.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Mark Ham= burg <mark@grubmah= .com> wrote:
Are there any MIDI loopers that recognize w= hen you've played the same sequence of notes (modulo minor timing and v= elocity variations) more than once and automatically turn it into a loop?

--000e0cd7226e65c3b7047760f7f7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 11:25:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDDD73BE7E; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AEEC1C6.3050802@mnet-online.de> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:25:58 +0100 From: Florian Anwander User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI Looping References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at gw2.consol.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Hi > I don't think so. But this is typically something I imagine can be built > in MAX. basically you always have to define what shall be recognized as a pattern. Whether it is a time orientated definition like a bar or a certain number of notes. But you have to say: what _is_ a pattern and what is _not_ a pattern. If you do not do this you will always run into the trap with two repeating notes being recognized as two repetions of a one-note-pattern. (And saying a single note cannot be a pattern is not good, because you may want a steadily repeating single sustained base note). > Another suggestion to reach a similar effect in MIDI looping is to > define certain MIDI note numbers to trig certain functions. Then you > simply play those notes to give looping commands like "record", "stop > recording", "new track" etc. This is a very nice idea. It makes the handling much easier. > Logic will be using its global cycle mode for looping, > which means all loops has to be of the same length. Not necessarily. You can setup a very long song length (two thousand and something bars which can be several hours - depending on tempo and measure settings), and use then the loop function per sequencer. That way also a individual loop length per track can be achieved. I went through all this, because looping with MIDI (or CV/Gate) was exactly what I was looking for. All this requires extensive preparation on a laptop. Maybe this does not disturb others, but I wanted to get away from that kind of making music. I don't want to klick thousand times anymore, before I can play a single note of music. After all that trials and tribulations I finally decided to use standard audio looper hardware - an Electrix Repeater and a Lexicon Jamman - and record my synths there. This is of course my personal point of view based on my being bored after 25 years of making music with computers and doing my dayjob in a software company. Florian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 11:46:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30E323BE80; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ycBGVuRk3KksYXXCa6s9zGaChnLTRIxWB23xyvMPJxw=; b=iy5WMXwdCUOBEy0bzwbbSTRMg6p0qvRWYa7+McO9ZlWTH2sNybg9waUXQA8YPBee/M NZy5ALoYBYjMsg1mRYTcUeBn8td5FnYoRHH+Msv2AwcCNoQ/A8jVEh4eaB0iJh8JCB7e dRVx1Z8OuRiV1LdRAC8tRwKgmSw25ICONBXS8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=e/9INkQ6A+ZKrjm7Ki/4AlCeeEB67rFYPcKc5rkQyxzTDC9rTzzgrPpdffvwSAiKbQ xo4KXgSKTjhjflD2roP6YYbqQCHzB75Lc1p3exAQowajnE6aRN9wA7cO/2re8qhNQlvL pVjvb03DCVoS+KnFLfVOWHd1afsrDiW3JPXBY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4AEEC1C6.3050802@mnet-online.de> References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEC1C6.3050802@mnet-online.de> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:45:59 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911020345i3548b453jb23c6d72663f20f7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI Looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd7040adf57c4047761ebe6 Resent-Message-ID: <-PLYr.A.zlF.4Zs7KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:46:00 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd7040adf57c4047761ebe6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Logic will be using its global cycle mode for looping, which means all > loops has to be of the same length. > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Florian Anwander wrote: > > Not necessarily. You can setup a very long song length (two thousand and > something bars which can be several hours - depending on tempo and measure > settings), and use then the loop function per sequencer. That way also a > individual loop length per track can be achieved. > Just a short explanation for those not familiar with Logic: I and Florian are talking about two different ways of making MIDI looping happen in Logic: 1) Global cycle mode: One loop length for all loops, loop length for all loops can be changed though. 2) Many separate MIDI Regions: Regions can be of different length and interact poly rhythmically. This is close to using Ableton Live in Mixer View, but with Logic you see all looping regions graphically in a linear way which makes it simpler to get a quick understanding the periodicity in which loops of different lengths sync their starting downbeat. One can combine both methods too, as for example Thomas Dolby does in his live show. After all that trials and tribulations I finally decided to use standard > audio looper hardware - an Electrix Repeater and a Lexicon Jamman - and > record my synths there. > That's an interesting point. I too often chose this method. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --000e0cd7040adf57c4047761ebe6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Logic will be usi= ng its global cycle mode for looping, which means all loops has to be of th= e same length.


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Florian= Anwander <fanwander@mnet-online.de> wrote:

Not necessarily. You can setup a very long song length (two thousand and so= mething bars which can be several hours - depending on tempo and measure se= ttings), and use then the loop function per sequencer. That way also a indi= vidual loop length per track can be achieved.


Just a short explanation for those not familiar w= ith Logic: I and Florian are talking about two different ways of making MID= I looping happen in Logic:

1) Global cycle mode:
One loop length= for all loops, loop length for all loops can be changed though.

2) Many separate MIDI Regions:
=C2=A0Regions can be of different len= gth and interact poly rhythmically. This is close to using Ableton Live in = Mixer View, but with Logic you see all looping regions graphically in a lin= ear way which makes it simpler to get a quick understanding the periodicity= in which loops of different lengths sync their starting downbeat.

One can combine both methods too, as for example Thomas Dolby does in h= is live show.


After all that trials and tribulations I finally decided to use standard au= dio looper hardware - an Electrix Repeater and a Lexicon Jamman - and recor= d my synths there.

That's an interestin= g point. I too often chose this method.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
--000e0cd7040adf57c4047761ebe6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 12:06:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69BA73BE79; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AEECB7B.5010809@mnet-online.de> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:07:23 +0100 From: Florian Anwander User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI Looping References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEC1C6.3050802@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020345i3548b453jb23c6d72663f20f7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911020345i3548b453jb23c6d72663f20f7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at gw2.consol.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per > One can combine both methods too, as for example Thomas Dolby does in > his live show. I have the Sole Inhabitant DVD, but until now I did not yet pay too much attention to his computerscreens. > After all that trials and tribulations I finally decided to use > standard audio looper hardware - an Electrix Repeater and a Lexicon > Jamman - and record my synths there. > That's an interesting point. I too often chose this method. By the way. I had a short email communication on the development of a simple MIDI-Looper with a guy who does several cool PIC based tools (Kaspar from www.frequencyresponse.ch). He is just busy at the moment doing his university degrees, but he is very interested in developing a MIDI-looper after that. Florian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 15:03:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A9603BE7F; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Frad1TggLNviP9gAK1pgvJbqr1YfthZqxLZlR8SGEvQ=; b=kKvKkauWozHHGDms9YVR5Qe9vlG25Qs5PL7kSuDaWko9rZOwDNR7B7mOEbzAd/A9s9 tB6L3RkLAe5qOKFt/6sS591b2wxzmx35ZY16RC0PQZ8LSjPWmWqkqMe9IYjMhsuOSe2+ Z03tFbKGjstKOXnGePfaSKBDgpRWkhyGa3TTo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Rqz6eLoz52bwN6GX/g7YA/OXN23Nb6M5lM9Q6ww2vCfx86J693lmTxnMTLoMgjyzpe WITh9uFO/fVp4nEF6aII8T76u3l7j8Spu0C6ITLLA2MYlHLYD9RRTWrlxvI6Q3eQXmLV 979Mk9mHm3UfYj+OVmmFVNFbbKxlcIK26I5R8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4AEECB7B.5010809@mnet-online.de> References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEC1C6.3050802@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020345i3548b453jb23c6d72663f20f7@mail.gmail.com> <4AEECB7B.5010809@mnet-online.de> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:03:16 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911020703k3dc6d9a8waaf4af8fb83077@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI Looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5a1aa71a89d047764ad2a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:03:18 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd5a1aa71a89d047764ad2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Florian Anwander wrote: > By the way. I had a short email communication on the development of a > simple MIDI-Looper with a guy who does several cool PIC based tools (Kaspar > from www.frequencyresponse.ch). He is just busy at the moment doing his > university degrees, but he is very interested in developing a MIDI-looper > after that. > Not sure about "a simple MIDI looper" but I would definitely think a full featured MIDI Looper would be highly interesting. Either as a plug-in or as a standalone application that sends its MIDI out through a virtual MIDI pipe like Apples OS X or the MIDI Yoke hack of Windows. To me the AKAI EWI 4000s feels just as playable and expressive as an acoustic instrument when playing it as a MIDI controller. So being able to loop that MIDI would be awesome! Except of MIDI note data the EWI also uses Breath (CC#2), Sustain (CC#64), Portamento/Glide (CC#5) and Pitchbend. A MIDI looper would need to record that stream of MIDI data just as it comes out when you play the instrument. Then the looper would need to assign a new MIDI channel for every new loop layer, because otherwise all the CC# data would interfere between the layers. This limitation gives that a MIDI looper can only record 16 layers into the loop. There seems to be some delicate issues to solve for anyone that wants to develop a MIDI looper. I hope your friend makes a try! For me though, having changed all hardware gear into software on a laptop, I guess an audio looper will continue to be the best solutions - looping the audio output of MIDI driven electronic virtual instruments. The reason for this assumption is that I find it hard that a computer will be able to run as many virtual instruments at the same time for MIDI looping. I use some twenty to thirty instrument patches when performing with the EWI and with audio looping it doesn't tax the CPU much. Two or three patches used simultaneously in real-time is close to what an Intel Dual 2 Core 2.26 GHz can handle. Although it doesn't really seem realistic yet, MIDI looping is an interesting idea ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --000e0cd5a1aa71a89d047764ad2a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Florian Anwander <fanwander@mnet-online.de> wrote:
By the way. I had a short email communicati= on on the development of a simple MIDI-Looper with a guy who does several c= ool PIC based tools (Kaspar from www.frequencyresponse.ch). He is just busy at the m= oment doing his university degrees, but he is very interested in developing= a MIDI-looper after that.

Not sure about "a simple MIDI looper" but = I would definitely think a full featured MIDI Looper would be highly intere= sting. Either as a plug-in or as a standalone application that sends its MI= DI out through a virtual MIDI pipe like Apples OS X or the MIDI Yoke hack o= f Windows. To me the AKAI EWI 4000s feels just as playable and expressive a= s an acoustic instrument when playing it as a MIDI controller. So being abl= e to loop that MIDI would be awesome! Except of MIDI note data the EWI also= uses Breath (CC#2), Sustain (CC#64), Portamento/Glide (CC#5) and Pitchbend= .

A MIDI looper would need to record that stream of MIDI data just as it = comes out when you play the instrument. Then the looper would need to assig= n a new MIDI channel for every new loop layer, because otherwise all the CC= # data would interfere between the layers. This limitation gives that a MID= I looper can only record 16 layers into the loop.

There seems to be some delicate issues to solve for anyone that wants t= o develop a MIDI looper. I hope your friend makes a try! For me though, hav= ing changed all hardware gear into software on a laptop, I guess an audio l= ooper will continue to be the best solutions - looping the audio output of = MIDI driven electronic virtual instruments. The reason for this assumption = is that I find it hard that a computer will be able to run as many virtual = instruments at the same time for MIDI looping. I use some twenty to thirty = instrument patches when performing with the EWI and with audio looping it d= oesn't tax the CPU much. Two or three patches used simultaneously in re= al-time is close to what an Intel Dual 2 Core 2.26 GHz can handle. Although= it doesn't really seem realistic yet, MIDI looping is an interesting i= dea ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
--000e0cd5a1aa71a89d047764ad2a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 15:34:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07FB93BE79; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AEEFC17.1010505@mnet-online.de> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:34:47 +0100 From: Florian Anwander User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI Looping References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEC1C6.3050802@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020345i3548b453jb23c6d72663f20f7@mail.gmail.com> <4AEECB7B.5010809@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020703k3dc6d9a8waaf4af8fb83077@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911020703k3dc6d9a8waaf4af8fb83077@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at gw2.consol.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per > full featured MIDI Looper would be highly interesting. Either as a > plug-in or as a standalone application that sends its MIDI out through I am talking about a hardware device: * records notes on/off only and drops anything else. * record, play, stop button * four track-selector buttons * button for MIDI-channel, tempo, loop length, bar length (for predefining loops if wanted), quantize * selector for internal/external clock, * a dial encoder for config data input * small display Nothing else. Florian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 15:41:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48C3F3BE81; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WXpOlKmxMYfUXN3pGjGdQJflP3pN7sfSS9Uf131AyQs=; b=TO0M4wJ+tXEqPNpE0iVLLXpTnIitrECBY8cWGuVUOcMTqjw/lDLa0NwKIglvKH5Rnb mo2r6f908NprInLgj8sXyOuPtn+gnzcoqj5heUhN+v2AtVxgERUDyMpM7nvPGRUUAnaf UxMyHR/4LBAetxkKDFEtuFKrsXzJm75RUSvYU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rUBa4KQ+/92bQHdT/hDZDarXT/KrG9SWAlcdv4P/wd4h98V6emYc6SOD9Q6mvRCpit wBlf887m1QWmKvjHURd3I9+SM43hIiMF7DpJUtG4RUXraULMZBGwreiESe3/AYAGy+LW e1F25Px9EMfLGdXhyYjkXj5ceoM2Rd8QMujh0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4AEEFC17.1010505@mnet-online.de> References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEC1C6.3050802@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020345i3548b453jb23c6d72663f20f7@mail.gmail.com> <4AEECB7B.5010809@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020703k3dc6d9a8waaf4af8fb83077@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEFC17.1010505@mnet-online.de> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:41:22 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911020741x6ce527dcted2b174a1f5faa26@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI Looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6c980aab09e047765352f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:41:23 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6c980aab09e047765352f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Ok, I see. I'm afraid it wouldn't be of interest for me then. I'm pretty sure I will not be able to afford a hardware locked MIDI looper and the feature set doesn't match my musical needs either. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Florian Anwander wrote: > Hi Per > > > full featured MIDI Looper would be highly interesting. Either as a plug-in >> or as a standalone application that sends its MIDI out through >> > I am talking about a hardware device: > > * records notes on/off only and drops anything else. > * record, play, stop button > * four track-selector buttons > * button for MIDI-channel, tempo, loop length, bar length (for predefining > loops if wanted), quantize > * selector for internal/external clock, > * a dial encoder for config data input > * small display > Nothing else. > > > Florian > > --000e0cd6c980aab09e047765352f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, I see. I'm afraid it wouldn't be of interest for me then. I'= ;m pretty sure I will not be able to afford a hardware locked MIDI looper a= nd the feature set doesn't match my musical needs either.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.c= om


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Florian = Anwander <= fanwander@mnet-online.de> wrote:
Hi Per


full featured MIDI Looper would be highly interesting. Either as a plug-in = or as a standalone application that sends its MIDI out through
I am talking about a hardware device:

* records notes on/off only and drops anything else.
* record, play, stop button
* four track-selector buttons
* button for MIDI-channel, tempo, loop length, bar length (for predefining = loops if wanted), quantize
* selector for internal/external clock,
* a dial encoder for config data input
* small display
Nothing else.


Florian


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--0-1481755769-1257178125=:19953-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 17:41:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC3E73BE82; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AEF1A04.507@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:42:28 -0500 From: Daryl User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" References: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:41:33 +0000 (UTC) This is an interesting read by Pat Metheny about his upcoming project, which will be a solo recording, using technology to "extend his reach". I can't tell quite precisely what he's talking about, whether it'll be looping, or triggering samples, but I found fascinating to see his take on incorporating new technologies. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 17:47:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9ABC3BE80; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:47:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 279453479/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.233.17/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.233.17 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq8BAB+q7kpPTukR/2dsb2JhbAAIhGzISo9fgTGCOFME X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,668,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="279453479" Message-ID: <4AEF1B24.5040305@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:47:16 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI Looping References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEC1C6.3050802@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020345i3548b453jb23c6d72663f20f7@mail.gmail.com> <4AEECB7B.5010809@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020703k3dc6d9a8waaf4af8fb83077@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEFC17.1010505@mnet-online.de> In-Reply-To: <4AEEFC17.1010505@mnet-online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:47:01 +0000 (UTC) Florian Anwander wrote: > Hi Per > I am talking about a hardware device: > * button for MIDI-channel, tempo, loop length, bar length (for > predefining loops if wanted), quantize If it can do a non-pre-defined loop length that will be something significantly new. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 19:21:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97F1C3BE82; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AEF3162.7060603@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:22:10 -0500 From: Daryl User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" References: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:21:16 +0000 (UTC) This is an interesting read by Pat Metheny about his upcoming project, which will be a solo recording, using technology to "extend his reach". I can't tell quite precisely what he's talking about, whether it'll be looping, or triggering samples, but I found fascinating to see his take on incorporating new technologies. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 19:21:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08DA33BE8A; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AEF3169.9050108@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:22:17 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" References: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:21:23 +0000 (UTC) This is an interesting read by Pat Metheny about his upcoming project, which will be a solo recording, using technology to "extend his reach". I can't tell quite precisely what he's talking about, whether it'll be looping, or triggering samples, but I found fascinating to see his take on incorporating new technologies. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 19:36:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 506543BE87; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:36:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zEx9BdE7r2aTp2z+En4xea33Y0ajMjOdRKXCJAH85Zg=; b=DJ72vWH0j51c16zeGIk/pz7hmjP+iiEAz+6E108bFvHE7XPsgcllmRn7Epj5OC4aX7 kcdhVVGGA5IsAKDx17fjEW7PEt5zTxMpM4QhgpOBD1NrbJEZsYoCZWGEYA8nQAFLp7Dl /xZWNtWUbPyJqj9ML7ku/htt5Ndslpo6gqi+k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=EVFCgNXV0jE5ZwDbFUve5IrLkmzUASHBDUpTCkzTCp7+9LwVULDX3igMW51YsTGxL5 0ZJx+r3f//NYJ29wH5BXfOa3WHQu9884ajI724rJOxpDkIwcOBPn3ThH86wQUgaq3JB/ P9yK/UmH1eVrCq1KmkDEnTYutAkdKp/aBPPks= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4AEF3169.9050108@mhorse.com> References: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> <4AEF3169.9050108@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:36:02 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: aefff3aa998ce06d Message-ID: <101191640911021136n4f6eff58v34e465faa443ec28@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:36:07 +0000 (UTC) hmm... 3 identical posts, but no link. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > This is an interesting read by Pat Metheny about his upcoming project, > which will be a solo recording, using technology to "extend his reach". > I can't tell quite precisely what he's talking about, whether it'll be > looping, or triggering samples, but I found fascinating to see his take > on incorporating new technologies. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 19:44:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 433883BE8A; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=QXkB4bcz6Ox+QAibI1Ue4yRGha8IVV9vMDwwc9awBvc=; b=Z4eg66ZHfInyOWSBduq5EEwqG+/2exSj5mMOL2DnWLWwDhExCZknHbz2EQTkn2gWpK 4knE4v95/Xv173qF8heILPMfUBsCNTt+6Z6bfalyj4+RZlzXmZs03o3JQEtFkBLPmjFr McoYAtrEAMOk2ORuPTXez3bPAr148riPaK3dw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=CXV8Adv20hzb2qxtUD79YidRzHgAka4/HIsFyV0QPaoooaeInGGKTF6VRgQFkOa0o3 MvUVcd4YJ5hUXVcWcmgrbcJ3OJmbBK+nRJtbEZAT2kJYR2yXQkZPAV4wH1DMuM22/4kA h2YTR+3TlnzudSy53HOtm2GNnDi+Kj7Qsewlk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: darylshawn@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <101191640911021136n4f6eff58v34e465faa443ec28@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> <4AEF3169.9050108@mhorse.com> <101191640911021136n4f6eff58v34e465faa443ec28@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:44:00 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 576474ee1fa2b85e Message-ID: <1f0784c0911021144g453f740o2682f7bd8ca4ec9f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" From: Daryl Shawn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ed88a638c440477689901 Resent-Message-ID: <6jGYLB.A.gjG.Baz7KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:44:01 +0000 (UTC) --0016364ed88a638c440477689901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Aargh...SO sorry. I got unsubbed, then signed up and tried to post. After each of the first two messages, I got emails saying they'd been rejected, but I guess they went through anyway. Then I forgot the damn link after all. Bad LD member! (smacking self on head w/copy of "It's Gonna Rain"...) Here's the linky-link: http://www.patmetheny.com/orchestrioninfo/ Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com hmm... 3 identical posts, but no link. > > --0016364ed88a638c440477689901 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aargh...SO sorry. I got unsubbed, then signed up and tried to post. After e= ach of the first two messages, I got emails saying they'd been rejected= , but I guess they went through anyway. Then I forgot the damn link after a= ll. Bad LD member! (smacking self on head w/copy of "It's Gonna Ra= in"...)

Here's the linky-link:

http://www.patmetheny.com/orchestrioninfo/

Dar= yl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com



hmm... 3 identical posts, but no link.


--0016364ed88a638c440477689901-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 19:44:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83EB93BE8B; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257191067; bh=7JdKDNMac5als7amMHC3aQDvZREFYqcrzy8+VoGoX8U=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UQAbflKGo90oewAVUm0inDY/HojIkPHCwhfwPl9vm0y8fCPj5nsTiAcu7TS3v0ZyI3wFAtos4l1hKM9See4g9kcL4KKBg+Jo9Yi9WJL+CkwROj8805Y/zrdIbcZ0HPN5L9/7vhyp/RIa5dmT5wUp7bCTAylkef9xWD+i/jpLTyU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=t5nliG91zthZNYL+Q1PDmKaSWct8gcvjwSqkzW5XJvLoTG4i8dlffmsC38jqlGqjAyR8TTGvIcNxL+BSmvCPTjIDIcnzOcqUUOXbBZgeZuZUf2oJfSTjMC8zgRX5gNu+qZWBx3vYesmUkdZ+BBZiN0rJp+lB0xgbCowJa+GhFeU=; Message-ID: <90772.28174.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: wfvizWYVM1l9HaKk9MHARk2mZKGxRX__CwPuq8LBCiUJRwm8gH0xgxNBfMxbI_Xk24DrjI9TUS.foO88qsJNPwppwBQIn2vHUWyRUwcdCijAHIQzRg8xvcaoUNYCov.A0JSRVJCzs7dyUqEHDXLT4Il8iTddFEIDqhV0rAmKhCEV9bSINt5QX.WLbf0Oy2iis1V1AK8Rfb8KwZqUNQ8qRpkx6g0k2frSS5HnY0Brx9or4FiKtMOg1DLnbfKef5qkvQ4yq6mk_4_7cy52xAttb9m_s9eI1c8Qyv087YS7ZXUfXjgClC61pouA1ygfe2mvz.6vjX2YUkQyzh6vmLD4uppsQ3mOul0cM36NMML0ybvDQcHbqlgN2mnuvR0NM9Why0OLOh..FKtlwb81wE_OwlQ- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:44:27 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4AEF3169.9050108@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1981036571-1257191067=:28174" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:44:28 +0000 (UTC) --0-1981036571-1257191067=:28174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please re-send! :) =A0 Pat Metheny rules. I was just listening to (Still Life) Talking and wished = that incarnation of his band would reform - although I like almost everythi= ng that Pat M. has ever done. He is a major influence on my playing. I've s= een him more than a few times and watching him play closeup is almost a rel= igious experience. =A0 P --- On Mon, 11/2/09, Daryl Shawn wrote: From: Daryl Shawn Subject: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 2:22 PM This is an interesting read by Pat Metheny about his upcoming project, which will be a solo recording, using technology to "extend his reach". I can't tell quite precisely what he's talking about, whether it'll be looping, or triggering samples, but I found fascinating to see his take on incorporating new technologies. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com =0A=0A=0A --0-1981036571-1257191067=:28174 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Please re-send! :)
 
Pat Metheny rules. I was just listening to (Still Life) Talking and wi= shed that incarnation of his band would reform - although I like almost eve= rything that Pat M. has ever done. He is a major influence on my playing. I= 've seen him more than a few times and watching him play closeup is almost = a religious experience.
 
P

--- On Mon, 11/2/09, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.c= om> wrote:

From: Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com>Subject: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion"
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 2:22 PM

This is an interesting read by Pat Metheny about his= upcoming project,
which will be a solo recording, using technology to "= extend his reach".
I can't tell quite precisely what he's talking about,= whether it'll be
looping, or triggering samples, but I found fascinatin= g to see his take
on incorporating new technologies.

Daryl Shawn<= BR>www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com



=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1981036571-1257191067=:28174-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 21:30:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEC7A3BE85; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-id: <370478B6-A0D2-4D93-80F2-A239DD973F27@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Sewell Subject: Adrenalinn as a plug-in Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:30:03 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Nice. http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.php/lang/en/id/5384/AdrenaLinn- Sync From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 21:44:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BA9C3BE82; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:44:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1LlGM7hmzD6zAtx+odXzKk3bTaAcdEE6gfKKqXUA02E=; b=Ktl9p5xZkgHUFkqxnoQ06QiVHAeL5c3u6LhIUvq2awSQuSvS0ucIecEVt0hxKkcuHX 0hEcBaCmpZeqpduRAgZzodGkwcPQ7QIGiQICvHuDOf4dhd5G+sQbp4kpIZHYf7Spg+qb pUPLfKLt1FtlGQWK6r4vFSwU18Mq3agzBYKZM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=a05sq/Z3Y1TwiWmiw9MHKJ5otqIJf5WYO0hKjUSWX3XCcvSgDOxsnK8732gf58MwSW /7Rs+RJTZdITcfQwRqesotP1FvMF8x+IzGAgrl4SWuImDgMwChS2gitRg+N74h7++Umi y4/noKyipcUfZ4/nxlWg5/1sScrC1tQn60SOY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <370478B6-A0D2-4D93-80F2-A239DD973F27@mac.com> References: <370478B6-A0D2-4D93-80F2-A239DD973F27@mac.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:44:42 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911021344w78c9142ck395f3d699eea8d93@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Adrenalinn as a plug-in From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd573d409eb2104776a49ca Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:44:43 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd573d409eb2104776a49ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Nice. > > http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.php/lang/en/id/5384/AdrenaLinn-Sync Maaahgaaaawd... what a sweet must-have!!!! I suspect no other piece of gear offers > Musical Scale Constraints -- Snap the LFO or Sequencer modulation signals > chromatic, major, minor, pentatonic, blues, whole tone, diminished or seven > other musical scales. > Per --000e0cd573d409eb2104776a49ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Chris Sewell <
lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
> Nice.
>
> = http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.php/lang/en/id/5384/Adrena= Linn-Sync

Maaahgaaaawd... what a sweet must-have!!!!
I suspect no other piece= of gear offers
Musical Scale Constraints -- Snap the LFO or Sequencer modulation signals c= hromatic, major, minor, pentatonic, blues, whole tone, diminished or seven = other musical scales.

Per --000e0cd573d409eb2104776a49ca-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 22:20:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE2FD3BE80; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DD6aYVeMA0PBhWDDZu9Nt+UiZ4EBpBKrtT9yF8gesmE=; b=OgrS8XPZWkyZgrvaFdxpEgnr4n0XXOrQCr/4exc8N4klhPBQPCIxIySDzDeQr8i7OB oAB+euN0bZfIH/876FRs5SLHRr5k6muaQ/k+Va98wziGaEDkP6xYQ0hZxIs2UTMIPeA4 NxrONLWmTGwoth3OOtncmC5P1Pt+rSsE9xXVs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Gk5KvNt09lZhN0f8ZTOItjNx5Ua/DbmSyTpvqDZGcUmWIq/JWP2qopEZae23AjtNBY ANOsfIKR2Q0+plSPfVcT6To/tQ2I+nHV6jobGsIr9xdU/GmZWxMJkvY9lUUgZmsgEc4+ Sgygd9MdZ+Nx0rLSZUBPTG0zEO1Klyv6MQt3g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5AF48EEE-A536-4024-86AF-5D5354818C81@grubmah.com> References: <20090926172709.10750@gmx.net> <4ABE616F.6040203@tiscali.co.uk> <5AF48EEE-A536-4024-86AF-5D5354818C81@grubmah.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:20:39 -0800 Message-ID: <1318f21d0911021420j307a380cpae9ce838c7928e50@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: wah pedal with midi interface From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd253849aebef04776ac9e7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:20:40 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd253849aebef04776ac9e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The Line 6 FBV Express mkII is a pretty neat compact MIDI controller that has an expression pedal with toe switch: http://line6.com/footcontrollers/fbvexpressmkii.html It was designed to work with their amps, but is also a bus-powered generic USB interface. Gorry for the late reply...catching up on old messages... -George On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > I've wanted an expression pedal with a toe switch though it didn't need to > be MIDI. This would have been for controlling feedback + hold on the > DL8000R. This isn't that, but the toe switch is the one thing I could see > that would be different about a wah pedal as a MIDI controller relative to > an expression pedal. > > Mark > > > On Sep 26, 2009, at 11:46 AM, andy butler wrote: > > I think it's just that it's midi controllable. >> >> I can imagine it might be nice to have an analog wah which >> could also be a midi controller, ...but I don't >> that's what we have here. >> >> Buzap Buzap wrote: >> >>> Don't really get it - what's the point? >>> I either have a "real" wah pedal or I have a midi pedal (expression >>> pedal) controlling some software fx. >>> best regards >>> Buzap >>> >> >> >> > -- -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --000e0cd253849aebef04776ac9e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The Line 6 FBV Express mkII is a pretty neat compact MIDI controller t= hat has an expression pedal with toe switch: http://line6.com/footcontrollers/fbvexpr= essmkii.html
=A0
It was designed to work with their amps, but is also a bus-powered gen= eric USB interface.
=A0
Gorry for the late reply...catching up on old messages...
=A0
-George




--
-George

http://www.myspace.com/george= ludwigmusic
--000e0cd253849aebef04776ac9e7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 22:23:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 880FF3BE80; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:23:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FTQjEl8DlFb0r8DJQNqky9eQ8jGKKijCauM1xMR6HwI=; b=AONBZPS3GUcOaow86rxwYK079mdQQPsympf2soBeboqniljBwH/ZcI9JYkH/l4VZ+S uMCcRUcS2EnBXhks2bXUfCI/oQu0JeFXHiOE3/zWtFFeiwqGn84oaTntWHuypiaakf3q qwVwdYvlTwae1293yM2Cah+qT5JlK0hUWkUdo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bf6VE/y1eSYJHiMzxJsVe38jEn/TvWpHSpY1D9ycQI7/SLJAgb7WALFNWmpQ+xdWCp Jkflckq3CdVifm16hOVc36Th3pe89J/0l69XperNBXkFLSJ7GISLa+fgGMOjXPWcVK84 HIbw7oAuUJZXkE7+BTqrH0em0WpJ9m/PaHIik= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911021344w78c9142ck395f3d699eea8d93@mail.gmail.com> References: <370478B6-A0D2-4D93-80F2-A239DD973F27@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911021344w78c9142ck395f3d699eea8d93@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:23:55 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911021423i1e2537adlcfb59a3e6e0a4737@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Adrenalinn as a plug-in From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:23:56 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > > Nice. > > > > http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.php/lang/en/id/5384/AdrenaLinn-Sync > > Maaahgaaaawd... what a sweet must-have!!!! > I suspect no other piece of gear offers >> >> Musical Scale Constraints -- Snap the LFO or Sequencer modulation signals chromatic, major, minor, pentatonic, blues, whole tone, diminished or seven other musical scales. > > Per Please excuse my too quick reply! The AdreanaLinn Sync Installer, for the demo, says that untime 3.6.1 or Pluggo 3.6.1 is needed. But Pluggo is a discontinued product of Cycling74. And the product page http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.shtml is not listed in the sites navigation control, meaning it is not meant to go public? This reminds me about that Repeater software from Electrixpro! Some things just are too good to be true ;-)) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 22:51:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9770F3BE84; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed In-reply-to: <66f9cc1e0911021423i1e2537adlcfb59a3e6e0a4737@mail.gmail.com> References: <370478B6-A0D2-4D93-80F2-A239DD973F27@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911021344w78c9142ck395f3d699eea8d93@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911021423i1e2537adlcfb59a3e6e0a4737@mail.gmail.com> Message-id: From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Adrenalinn as a plug-in Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:51:30 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Well thats bullshit. On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Per Boysen > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Chris Sewell >> wrote: >>> Nice. >>> >>> http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.php/lang/en/id/5384/ >>> AdrenaLinn-Sync >> >> Maaahgaaaawd... what a sweet must-have!!!! >> I suspect no other piece of gear offers >>> >>> Musical Scale Constraints -- Snap the LFO or Sequencer modulation >>> signals chromatic, major, minor, pentatonic, blues, whole tone, >>> diminished or seven other musical scales. >> >> Per > > > Please excuse my too quick reply! The AdreanaLinn Sync Installer, for > the demo, says that untime 3.6.1 or Pluggo 3.6.1 is needed. But Pluggo > is a discontinued product of Cycling74. And the product page > http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.shtml > is not listed in the sites navigation control, meaning it is not meant > to go public? > > This reminds me about that Repeater software from Electrixpro! Some > things just are too good to be true ;-)) > > Per > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 22:54:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D5CB3BE84; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:54:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nNPacYThcrCb/mojEsLaZBIyt+BhAq6ifYPCrSS6lAg=; b=qCHcl/jVzlLqPwztBcyRj86o/chrYw4JX04V5LxvodSL4AM0PAl8x5yLSU4MPYDsPm v8RFcq8ioWpng3mgZjG2awCAvHXrSSIluh1QtU7SvDwGiH07fJht7UkT+MtSFvcYjGML MPysQ24S1tFSi0IxhVetqyagIFbwMSS9WZ8fY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=KilxWu1la8JFM1Dr5T8MSR0L3P+Q5nqI7iq8bvIwAPM5mhDGEqo8Nn0n5+AW7B3asP 7lknSea7u46ynNvpTcR+5KX86iSSNgbVJ3x56P+KO5QkStrfWfv6lhEGMcyau19yKGNc u/B6prbNXF6UlmjJ09KqK3fJRscf60WU+cmFo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <370478B6-A0D2-4D93-80F2-A239DD973F27@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911021344w78c9142ck395f3d699eea8d93@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911021423i1e2537adlcfb59a3e6e0a4737@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:54:53 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dc3116f6843ac056 Message-ID: <37f071c00911021454x1a6a1998s6bdea762ed8d8f77@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Adrenalinn as a plug-in From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <1SBoB.A.L-H.-M27KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:54:54 +0000 (UTC) No, its on the front page of the site. http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/ Give them a call or drop them a line, they're great people and will surely tell you what the deal is. I started to download and got to an actual package download so there's something there to be had. Kevin On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Well thats bullshit. >> >> >> Please excuse my too quick reply! The AdreanaLinn Sync Installer, for >> the demo, says that untime 3.6.1 or Pluggo 3.6.1 is needed. But Pluggo >> is a discontinued product of Cycling74. And the product page >> http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.shtml >> is not listed in the sites navigation control, meaning it is not meant >> to go public? >> >> This reminds me about that Repeater software from Electrixpro! Some >> things just are too good to be true ;-)) >> >> Per >> > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 23:11:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0B343BE85; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dwTkeFkeMZMj16QnyXndkMzLIKSDjAPQWaULqxC2BGc=; b=IAXQCPazta6svbFvWinUFHFYP5jUUJNvbPKRo99WXQm0nF2d94lSEZBW/xiojcuE9L xkRLO4CQAkUuOcEXMh5ERnHqW5Ik0SPMHyNMQceor/DkXFbpG2OQUUHdc8yLECO950C8 NATmXqvRnbFbUyOGDFMSxLOcrDXxLNfObDDrU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JgqZQyGPWdF2jsErUr47iWjZIUGvPUjeUo95uHuGsvtLUhZUN+o4Goml32urm5v4or VUJIUdDO4rYe6HzkhpHOlpOJa218j96orStVbXYjC6XKwqoQbtJszHa+Iv5NMzdb67UX fOWjgQiwmR/dK3Tq1DPsW5h0c2cQD17LgOdrE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37f071c00911021454x1a6a1998s6bdea762ed8d8f77@mail.gmail.com> References: <370478B6-A0D2-4D93-80F2-A239DD973F27@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911021344w78c9142ck395f3d699eea8d93@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911021423i1e2537adlcfb59a3e6e0a4737@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00911021454x1a6a1998s6bdea762ed8d8f77@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:11:49 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911021511x7c587fd9qa64919e485d428ca@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Adrenalinn as a plug-in From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Good to see it is on the front page! Maybe they didn't think they need to have a link to the product presentation page because it can be reached by clicking the front page picture? I too downloaded the two weeks demo installer and it was this installer that that told me Pluggo 3.6.1 is need for the AdrenaLinn Sync. This may not a problem for me today, being a Pluggo owner, but the fact that Pluggo is a discontinued product makes AdrenaLinn Sync come out as a no very future proof investment for users. I will definitely keep monitoring the page in case some clarification on this is to be published. This is indeed an exciting product! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > No, its on the front page of the site. > > http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/ > > Give them a call or drop them a line, they're great people and will > surely tell you what the deal is. =C2=A0I started to download and got to = an > actual package download so there's something there to be had. > > Kevin > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: >> Well thats bullshit. > >>> >>> >>> Please excuse my too quick reply! The AdreanaLinn Sync Installer, for >>> the demo, says that untime 3.6.1 or Pluggo 3.6.1 is needed. But Pluggo >>> is a discontinued product of Cycling74. And the product page >>> http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.shtml >>> is not listed in the sites navigation control, meaning it is not meant >>> to go public? >>> >>> This reminds me about that Repeater software from Electrixpro! Some >>> things just are too good to be true ;-)) >>> >>> Per >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: =C2=A0http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 00:02:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DDB03BE80; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:02:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3XLgSLxVAJDwAcam7OE3IY6VkFBF+STRAZ4cp6TFSz4=; b=h2zeQ/uz9b9qS4u3Xq0K7OLrHiNhOJG9wO58+TFwG78bU4IkQFGYnrqKh08lB4DXv9 pnSUx9TBm4Q8aShk6QwmtVM2eEo1hTnG/xqPDi0VkBm4OfSi6GVRcgjqa9QzYG3SA7Yv CZbcLbrHt6dlUTepOaEAfwbJIEwNVsYQyk3MY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xm1UQu4uMY2zSY4VFzvXA6ROHGTxLbnGWNnZQpyRn0PV6/ysmLk+DydxtFYpK/vPFt hldQGMYdHoCjkk0J7Sr8gtDdvD+ImLW2AXnrEyJf5o03ew52XUy5vy5TQQ7yZRa8srYI z/4te3woVznXpRunZNDw/i5VpVqf/I6WZOd0M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1318f21d0911021420j307a380cpae9ce838c7928e50@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090926172709.10750@gmx.net> <4ABE616F.6040203@tiscali.co.uk> <5AF48EEE-A536-4024-86AF-5D5354818C81@grubmah.com> <1318f21d0911021420j307a380cpae9ce838c7928e50@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:02:10 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0911021602y39e1f39bs34c5c0926d6a4811@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: wah pedal with midi interface From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:02:11 +0000 (UTC) The IK Multimedia Stealth pedal is a midi controller with a toe switch, though I don't use the toe switch. It works great for my needs: http://simart.googlepages.com/StealthPedal.html On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:20 PM, George Ludwig wrote: > The Line 6 FBV Express mkII is a pretty neat compact MIDI controller that > has an expression pedal with toe switch: > http://line6.com/footcontrollers/fbvexpressmkii.html > > It was designed to work with their amps, but is also a bus-powered generic > USB interface. > > Gorry for the late reply...catching up on old messages... > > -George > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >> >> I've wanted an expression pedal with a toe switch though it didn't need to >> be MIDI. This would have been for controlling feedback + hold on the >> DL8000R. This isn't that, but the toe switch is the one thing I could see >> that would be different about a wah pedal as a MIDI controller relative to >> an expression pedal. >> >> Mark >> >> On Sep 26, 2009, at 11:46 AM, andy butler wrote: >> >>> I think it's just that it's midi controllable. >>> >>> I can imagine it might be nice to have an analog wah which >>> could also be a midi controller, ...but I don't >>> that's what we have here. >>> >>> Buzap Buzap wrote: >>>> >>>> Don't really get it - what's the point? >>>> I either have a "real" wah pedal or I have a midi pedal (expression >>>> pedal) controlling some software fx. >>>> best regards >>>> Buzap >>> >>> >> > > > > -- > -George > > http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 00:05:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0E053BE87; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KecOo+gnMdqxx0TH1Uz/LqClcwVjhCHcn6EXPXpAmao=; b=D6hEdX+Phm8mJ7SkyyEluHepfEo8CvoR6svRSp/9f57btHANo1T46KatFMiCtl51dc xA014LrZKBRx7iTjIQu/e0pwvNa1138T9cs82yFBfgeJ5KZ6M0d+G/7bH9guI/awHshn lcYALe4jSl6ruAW1elMi3LZm6FGHVBNfmYVQo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VFVJxwDqQ6gu8OEL3AV36izWt1KRjuxSo8QBBruGFErwAsIze497kkbl7BtZmaoqx0 mobJK1QGGob5l7hvaHbl4jlH7Vyn/BfCv9++Cv/peuk6YpBZDy+65Ic3/CBGZ2Sdl3XP Yy1T+Br7vKFDEutewEPrFEdvWg7agTAvFNcJU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911021511x7c587fd9qa64919e485d428ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <370478B6-A0D2-4D93-80F2-A239DD973F27@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911021344w78c9142ck395f3d699eea8d93@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911021423i1e2537adlcfb59a3e6e0a4737@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00911021454x1a6a1998s6bdea762ed8d8f77@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911021511x7c587fd9qa64919e485d428ca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:05:49 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0911021605maedfa27q98fdc48ac36cc54@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Adrenalinn as a plug-in From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4a1M4C.A.jJE.fP37KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:05:51 +0000 (UTC) You lucky mac guys, I'm jealous! On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Good to see it is on the front page! Maybe they didn't think they need > to have a link to the product presentation page because it can be > reached by clicking the front page picture? I too downloaded the two > weeks demo installer and it was this installer that that told me > Pluggo 3.6.1 is need for the AdrenaLinn Sync. This may not a problem > for me today, being a Pluggo owner, but the fact that Pluggo is a > discontinued product makes AdrenaLinn Sync come out as a no very > future proof investment for users. > > I will definitely keep monitoring the page in case some clarification > on this is to be published. This is indeed an exciting product! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: >> No, its on the front page of the site. >> >> http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/ >> >> Give them a call or drop them a line, they're great people and will >> surely tell you what the deal is. =A0I started to download and got to an >> actual package download so there's something there to be had. >> >> Kevin >> >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: >>> Well thats bullshit. >> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please excuse my too quick reply! The AdreanaLinn Sync Installer, for >>>> the demo, says that untime 3.6.1 or Pluggo 3.6.1 is needed. But Pluggo >>>> is a discontinued product of Cycling74. And the product page >>>> http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.shtml >>>> is not listed in the sites navigation control, meaning it is not meant >>>> to go public? >>>> >>>> This reminds me about that Repeater software from Electrixpro! Some >>>> things just are too good to be true ;-)) >>>> >>>> Per >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all troubl= e. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> >> > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 00:06:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B92E3BE86; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257206770; bh=rwJS/W6z7yMvU+CimQ/mXAnP13XaneD1smvId7v7z/4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eKP18zpTAI8uAvYvw4CC+/cdOd6IIVN4avp5BOV16noieEgXxNVSE88gVv5/jIrA/Euoy4mJXW0jQWebDypLEE/J3vppQzYY4OwMosRh5TQLSR+3a6CXIEC0JKxLLRMsRxXlzIUSuVStiiShlW4nQGPxDmebWasKnVBlTMUyGHc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sKCdgNkH5PRrcm9P3kQrXxyuDC4lKPUxe/+hlsgIaDc9fTZhkiqBSn6Jb+9NnV1Z0vn1Kguwla32L2xJDGO0gD4QxMUk1QUC5pN/dlLEHEzE6b5lXRaS/6aHI8owmYWhuuCTgqi1kpVLohiSL8omwt4qYYs2OGnk/I7l3NOSSxE=; Message-ID: <52637.73094.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0hSzuKwVM1mWMgTDrN1j08kBFstsbpVnVKE959SsEnoRulII2a8t8nBxVyhSZfDDW2roFsHMHyOSg3SekF.9xaL0YW_B2MamQiuBN1h_nmTcfaApsD..GWybIfxE5e1eYz2HdVz5qnZKfk1mh8tcPvWAyoJFIxLavTMIoXCMWvszo4UzF8y8jelJ2sSmSdYhfvM8rPVMpvbuwjDGjXZKQ0PvgaOqm56Dp9z926iymFICFTK1Zf9JMEKxqJbL1D.m5EslNQpio58UgtbOY0NSrigtRPnOEZLVMceRYdE91.8N8TPJLvpej.frVgyxcWzVPJ6gswg- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:06:09 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Adrenalinn as a plug-in To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911021344w78c9142ck395f3d699eea8d93@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:06:11 +0000 (UTC) i have the hardware version and though not as flexible love it very mucho!= =0Acheers=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Per Boysen schrieb am Mo, 2.11.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Per Boysen =0A> Betreff: Re: Adrenalinn as a plug-in=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Montag, 2. November 2009, 13:44=0A> On Mon, No= v 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Chris=0A> Sewell =0A> wrote:=0A> = > Nice.=0A> >=0A> > http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.php/lang/en/id/53= 84/AdrenaLinn-Sync=0A> =0A> =0A> Maaahgaaaawd... what a sweet must-have!!!!= =0A> I suspect no other piece of gear offers =0A> =0A> Musical Scale Const= raints -- Snap the LFO or Sequencer=0A> modulation signals chromatic, major= , minor, pentatonic,=0A> blues, whole tone, diminished or seven other music= al scales.=0A> =0A> =0A> Per=0A> =0A=0A=0A From info@btl.co.uk Tue Nov 3 00:23:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1765 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:22:58 UTC Received: from mail.cmsh.cyc.edu.tw (mail.cmsh.cyc.edu.tw [163.27.21.3]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8703E3BE78; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cmsh.cyc.edu.tw (Postfix) with ESMTP id C636283BBF; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:53:42 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.cmsh.cyc.edu.tw Received: from mail.cmsh.cyc.edu.tw ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cmsh.cyc.edu.tw [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wo6eLrpwPexr; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:53:39 +0800 (CST) Received: from mail.cmsh.cyc.edu.tw (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cmsh.cyc.edu.tw (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1318C84274; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:53:39 +0800 (CST) From: "British Telecom Plc" Reply-To: ukbtelecomplc@onfruit.cn Subject: Lucky*****Winner Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:53:39 +0800 Message-Id: <20091102235339.M6608@btl.co.uk> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 65.120.56.2 (wcs0716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Your email address has been awarded 1,000,000,00 Pounds in our British Telecom promo.send your Names,Sex,Country,Tell,occupation. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 00:27:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15CF73BE81; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Daryl Shawn'" , References: <1f0784c0911021144g453f740o2682f7bd8ca4ec9f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:27:17 -0800 Message-ID: <9C069B87213C466C8489784D41544104@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA5BD9.5B8CB7A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpcEkN3wYvFPN2USeuLyNvy/Ug3FQACTqVQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <1f0784c0911021144g453f740o2682f7bd8ca4ec9f@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:27:22 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA5BD9.5B8CB7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sounds like Robotics to me..Hmmmmmmnnn, I'm getting this picture of a wild eyed Pat Metheny, his Big Hair even bigger and crazier, leading a huge army of instrument playing robots, all playing absolutely perfectly, as Pat throws back his head, cackles maniacally and starts wailing on his Picasso guitar which as a few extra android hands adding other parts on the various necks and drone strings. Perfect he laughs, Perrrrfect hahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bill _____ From: Daryl Shawn [mailto:highhorse@mhorse.com] Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:44 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" Aargh...SO sorry. I got unsubbed, then signed up and tried to post. After each of the first two messages, I got emails saying they'd been rejected, but I guess they went through anyway. Then I forgot the damn link after all. Bad LD member! (smacking self on head w/copy of "It's Gonna Rain"...) Here's the linky-link: http://www.patmetheny.com/orchestrioninfo/ Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com hmm... 3 identical posts, but no link. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA5BD9.5B8CB7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sounds like Robotics to = me….Hmmmmmmnnn,  I’m getting this picture of a wild eyed Pat Metheny, his Big = Hair even bigger and crazier,  leading a huge army of instrument playing = robots, all playing absolutely perfectly, as Pat throws back his head,  cackles = maniacally and starts wailing on his  Picasso guitar which as a few extra = android hands adding  other parts on the various necks and drone strings. Perfect = he laughs,  Perrrrfect hahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bill

 


From: Daryl = Shawn [mailto:highhorse@mhorse.com]
Sent: Monday, November = 02, 2009 11:44 AM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Pat = Metheny's "Ochestrion"

 

Aargh...SO = sorry. I got unsubbed, then signed up and tried to post. After each of the first two messages, I got emails saying they'd been rejected, but I guess they = went through anyway. Then I forgot the damn link after all. Bad LD member! = (smacking self on head w/copy of "It's Gonna Rain"...)

Here's the linky-link:

http://www.patmetheny= .com/orchestrioninfo/

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com=

 

hmm... 3 identical posts, but no = link.

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA5BD9.5B8CB7A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 00:48:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CF823BE85; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Chris Sewell Subject: Apogee Duet Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:48:35 -0500 Message-id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Evening, Does anybody have experience in comparing the sound of Apogees Duet to other interfaces. I'm being seduced by its size and simplicity. I have an Original Motu Ultralite that sounds good and is very reliable. And small. I am just curious as to the claims of sonic superiority that Apogee makes. Thanks Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 01:12:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6CAD3BE84; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257210759; bh=1B8QedGt1SHs5Fqz6KhGbXAWzzerXvVkBczMAtN1SUs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Orceu3Mui7OrmjW4M4r/qfvL7bt1q7bRh8RfpLN0ppgfqblBUjwHSc6Og+8YBxfYoY178Exd7J2ABLhGNeq3Av71I13+Ify0NcSQ4oPYVMfSOg0t6pT4Jl6dQdmAGGjj+1u5flXIwpgpN9/4LxH8+FsTiY2WgDePe+3cwrvzgxU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ek3ERORThxV7AGmI1SDmu86OSuT1it1ujv6W99Eki9d97VC/0kHR/Z7QBo6eeFkuAW9gYVM5FIpw38IcRvLn/tePr+4SjFrYhUC/vfjyW0lT7rgNwXiRClqJtbFce7xACbrSBFK2rTvt5SWviUmUTpu4Lrgn/xuC4ldskEHCX/Q=; Message-ID: <668515.53692.qm@web32706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aYjPCy4VM1kc8EL6weDwBpxDTJA19kXg7Fni02YGNq9FCehsiJqQbYOp9eojBLOssX4Wmnx9gWv7ftGO6V2MXQoM4LBAUfrawE22DbAeHCD.LYm5_5ZlmA9O.aBdGMz3XZrDy6bdGpYnXmMdz3NL1DkfTKTFHUa2WrwhBJDJ64JCEe4ePyB2pVJYe2XSwLQytVjs4gi4HNOgZO7ngdXFBT9wHraOobOSm4g96Bal3CZTC3Q10N3hTEP2_JSILuxdtO2r52muFaj5Vrp_myt_JwPPE0deCS8fm_VYXutC4ugCfaK0gdVgjfzNy802XBRLE5AcxGnWHO5NRdWpNAVtipiWccXk3k.5WLTYtQcuKeOV0Nk6eJ5IhXdIpgPjLjdDUCPjvlrEd3O817B75eBVHtrc0ujzhM8_UCwjieSJoYBSUrkjHkrESppxhOgaNp5FmoRI X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:12:39 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: Pat Metheny's Orchestrion To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, If you go to "The House on the Rock", north of Dodgeville WI, you can see a half dozen HUGE Orchestrions. Rig From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 02:22:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B4763BE80; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=HXdlIxlxakBPc2HKXZiraUAdJpSog0ifQDb7ifHs/Jk=; b=cdxoDT7kYdBCdlqEjdCtEXoFCHTmB7BYPoOEqtD1s1v3AY06QOqC+qXKHglNwV+d8x ab67orP8OeThGmHg80KJz8x4YF1F79tMdFX1TQr168DkK4fUVoo15M5ItbAeD1dOETvT FCOTCi3kJSAUHDmDk4bZPSaJhEbHBdm5zal20= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=hq7iWaVrmYToEF4Oj1ZsP9G8IYqnWCH/OpzWWucl5QusgHXeAO/rwSCo1XS8nhGgMO 27BlPUkmQd9S6iPCY/9xXte/7xi4qM7exS2k0F/5vcXRLvHVduJH9BcFNkssEWcgIpXW LsCtiViQARA2+ttKePOl+MYtE63gLb84qgpvw= Message-Id: <2B6007FD-2A3F-47CB-9B66-BADAC280717D@gmail.com> From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Apogee Duet Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:20 -0500 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <9zo_iB.A.82C.fP57KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:22:23 +0000 (UTC) I briefly got to try a duet against my ultralite and I thought the sound quality was indeed much better! Although I couldn't achieve the same low latency as I could with my motu ultralite in Ableton Live. This was awhile back on a different mac so they might have updated the drivers since then ......and it's funny you ask this question because I will be experimenting again this weekend with a Duet with my macbook. I will let you know if I get better performance. It's definitely a great deal to use for recording just not sure if I would want to use it for live performance. Todd Matthews On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Evening, > Does anybody have experience in comparing the sound of Apogees Duet > to other interfaces. > I'm being seduced by its size and simplicity. I have an Original > Motu Ultralite that sounds good and is very reliable. And small. I > am just curious as to the claims of sonic superiority that Apogee > makes. > > Thanks > Chris > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 02:22:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EE773BE85; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "Tim Thompson" To: References: <4AEF1B24.5040305@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4AEF1B24.5040305@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: RE: MIDI Looping Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:22:32 -0800 Message-ID: <008c01ca5c2c$81e55fd0$85b01f70$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acpb5IQTs1q2Hr3CTDi1SMIzGKgp5QARGVfw Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: <4CcseC.A.A7C.wP57KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:22:41 +0000 (UTC) >> * button for MIDI-channel, tempo, loop length, bar length (for=20 >> predefining loops if wanted), quantize > If it can do a non-pre-defined loop length that will be=20 > something significantly new. Herb Heinz and I demonstrated a MIDI looper called Hoops at Y2K5 that = didn't use pre-defined loop lengths, see http://nosuch.com/tjt/hoops . = It was a technology demonstration and hacker's toy, though, not a = product.=20 ...Tim... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 02:42:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73F623BE85; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=PPruK8N2Tu2KNwUZv5XfWUkAAl8supn4Q6eg0XigsYFg4xko6FS3E4CvBEIxj70z; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <26097858.1257216151962.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:42:31 -0500 (EST) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48a07df0e0a0dab2127428228b303e6e981e3821db987f1b31350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.48 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:42:32 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoJDQEPPd1jU -----Original Message----- From: William Walker=20 Sent: Nov 2, 2009 7:27 PM To: 'Daryl Shawn' , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" Sounds like Robotics to me=E2=80=A6.Hmmmmmmnnn, I=E2=80=99m getting this picture of a wild eyed Pat Metheny, his Big Hair = even bigger and crazier, leading a huge army of instrument playing robots, all playing absolutely perfectly, as Pat throws back his head, cackles maniaca= lly and starts wailing on his Picasso guitar which as a few extra android hand= s adding other parts on the various necks and drone strings. Perfect he laug= hs, Perrrrfect hahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=20 Bill =20 =20 =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 02:44:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21FE03BE7F; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "Tim Thompson" To: References: <4AEF1B24.5040305@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4AEF1B24.5040305@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: RE: MIDI Looping Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:44:39 -0800 Message-ID: <008d01ca5c2f$983ec7f0$c8bc57d0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acpb5IQTs1q2Hr3CTDi1SMIzGKgp5QASmwKg Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: <4or3N.A.bUE.dk57KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:44:46 +0000 (UTC) I gave a talk about my Monolith 2.0 installation (a 2-person MIDI = looper) last week and created some slides to describe the geeky details: http://nosuch.com/tjt/bm/monolith_2_at_lovetechsf.pdf This MIDI looper (unlike Hoops) uses pre-defined/selectable loop = lengths. ...Tim... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 09:27:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 154123BE80; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Message-ID: <4AEFF78D.9010208@mnet-online.de> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:27:41 +0100 From: Florian Anwander User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060414 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI Looping References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEC1C6.3050802@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020345i3548b453jb23c6d72663f20f7@mail.gmail.com> <4AEECB7B.5010809@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020703k3dc6d9a8waaf4af8fb83077@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEFC17.1010505@mnet-online.de> <4AEF1B24.5040305@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4AEF1B24.5040305@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Hi Andy > If it can do a non-pre-defined loop length that will be something > significantly new. Not really. In Emagic/Apple Logic the part you are recording does not have to have a defined loop length and you can set it to loopmode immediately. But for any hardware solution it would be new indeed. Our (partial) model was the Roland CSQ-100/600 sequencers (but those miss the quantizing). Especially the CSQ600 has this synced recording start, which knows about the ryhtmic structure, but is not bound to a dedicated loop length. Means: It knows where the first beat of pattern is, and starts recording there, but you can stop the recording (=make the loop) at any time. Florian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 10:18:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9FA63BE80; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:18:02 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <2B6007FD-2A3F-47CB-9B66-BADAC280717D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091103101802.22830@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2B6007FD-2A3F-47CB-9B66-BADAC280717D@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Apogee Duet To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18eFDUtgZ4eiD1dld/y4d9AeLvfTJtGhzjNBT+PFg zLkuGWuL0P1+CfA6J3o3aDCu6OUIoL2qKbhg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: FXaRLoJpa0A7Sch0jjAz8FA/Njh6dA5+ X-FuHaFi: 0.6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Hi Chris my impression is that Apogee Duet is supreme for recording (if you're ok with Mac-only and break-out cable concept), but for live looping performance, I'd probably prefer the Motu Ultralite. See this for details: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/low-end-theory/334049-new-motu-ultralite-mk3-vs-apogee-duet.html Duet: +Sound quality (in and out) +Elegant, simple design +The Apogee brand -Only 2in/2out -Closed system (can't upgrade at later stage) Ultralite MK3: +/-Sound quality +Comprehensive routing options +Expandable -Paying for DSP effects I probably won't use -Possibly complex to set up and operate (Cuemix vs Maestro) best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 10:37:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF9613BE81; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nJ/vWqpJx4Akum2AuA5lGXf3pVqaGvFXvQf41sapnwE=; b=IAyTAilCbQMaNgbXIht5DdlFR8h77dzzSD5zxmR0ekDjUKQ5CvEc+E/ICYDV0UxL+n dYucmU38tU+kyAMKv9tZaPUpWSPlNotQVKxDh1W5JEuN6uCunFSbI1XX3mKWbZ/1tEYG 9nDX4ZVm0Le9tGilUFH/zNVS4EV4JM8WOWCms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=v/u0nNWPWpADbjbVsPDdw7q7V7Ew136umvo5NGjyvAMI2zJhC8WfdwOZFv6DHDaZKh Up1PI/Lgg6N7KT5ZT7BGgqtlYR/hKN3dxXQ1fS1RtTCjW1Nggc67xtIThShlEFhRJ9jC 7CjCtrzGLyr9wYVKrADfVnYb9IjFztAJnszaw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:37:26 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911030237y21da2c6bxc0474f355db3335a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Apogee Duet From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:37:28 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Apogees Duet I recently used an Apogee Duet on a "producer seminar" tour and found it perfect for the situation where you talk and and play around laptop audio. It was Apple that put me there with that audio interface but I couldn't have chosen a better one myself for this situation. The big master volume knob on the top is great for grabbing on the fly and adapt the playback level as you go. I imagine it would be great for mixing too, if using the technique to move between alternative acoustic playback levels in order to keep your listening fresh as long as possible. I did not record through it though. One thing I would have wished the Duet to have is an extra power feed. This is a good thing to have when playing concerts with a firewire audio interface. I have noticed with my own FW boxes, and heard from other musicians, that the firewire cable can easily lose connection if the computer is moved on the table or if the firewire cable happens to hang down getting poked by mistake as you reach for a plectrum or something. If the full power feed to the interface goesthrough this firewire cable such a short break will cause the system to swap over to the computer's built-in audio interface; PA audio silenced. If using an extra power feed besides the firewire cable the effect will not be that drastic. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 11:10:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F4153BE7E; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:10:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JT7kBtUQgn9jn/3HcfWUb7g5J4VoFEbQQGHAyvTY45I=; b=QVGJTNJZNmQnNeXbPpplb5wqDQczYbVkubTLbdF5gGlVFtgv0wQq+U0t/7n1g444xM GdPMOjh3zxweicX0qi1l1T39M4kBn+ct6is7vdjSD2nWYCNDgsSYLNUNiSx/rSeIJfgw lCZ0s61SKUQZ0vDv8154WctSRHxXZ0yQhGZQA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=D6ZQA1+aHjH1Y2+brClt5xT1RrGJ0YYGW+zWiAoHf8ZiYLg6+v+QlA4h6kMBUb1WLA hp9huULIK5UQu0RfzrWKtgGpMQILtn32xkI9k0V73kaZKf6dcnaigFL2If3cJcHKfw/2 XuMSeBq6HEQxn5kkQz+IGC975BHx6nidwLB2g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9C069B87213C466C8489784D41544104@williamsteed> References: <1f0784c0911021144g453f740o2682f7bd8ca4ec9f@mail.gmail.com> <9C069B87213C466C8489784D41544104@williamsteed> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:10:39 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911030310l90e862ak5c63a2bdc42ebc3f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd762ae58c5d40477758b0d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:10:40 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd762ae58c5d40477758b0d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Today finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! From Pat's description it sounds pretty close to what people on this list are doing: a new performance method to present music alone onstage using acoustic and > acoustoelectric musical instruments that are mechanically controlled using > the power of modern technology. > Can't wait to hear and see what it really is about! :-) I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --000e0cd762ae58c5d40477758b0d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Today finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! From Pat's = description it sounds pretty close to what people on this list are doing: <= br>
a new performance method to present music alone onstage using acoustic and = acoustoelectric musical instruments that are mechanically controlled using = the power of modern technology.

Can't wait to hear = and see what it really is about! :-)
I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible?
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen= .com
--000e0cd762ae58c5d40477758b0d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 11:36:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D2223BE81; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=up2BR4I0zxgXxM4bk/6uUJTZRYWM84Xf9cGWnSPMkXI=; b=lMPNp9kYm1Oeu1xXWPmrbIANMJ6KgMmkvj/5RJgFEVwTnvcfYUgPn7Mx81zK7Yw8fx D9zJ1PyQgxCWzCApojFJmsYO7ViWMWJ8fgbgzUBKmhTpynRXpEQbPAiUuvdOIPd9nilI S9d6aTlopXI70w/tr+v057+mvCOZwQ6b8eVLY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=M6MPi1QdXJ8E1rUlCF1u469nZGtBE3/NQ4OP++XJRiRyG9CdIrdDLhNWMy6CCLp0p5 3A87nEGRXeYERkpKWMdv4M210+6MxGDWLtUcjHwhdnluvzcunAW6KWmYyazK0mRmAj8/ tbQOICf9vAfsBFwOVmn+Cki4Pl73tAPYaINRU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20091103101802.22830@gmx.net> References: <2B6007FD-2A3F-47CB-9B66-BADAC280717D@gmail.com> <20091103101802.22830@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:35:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Apogee Duet From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Hi Chris, I use an Ultralite mk3. I've not tested the Duet myself but according to internet forums and reviews the Duet offers the best sound quality in this price range. But to be honest, I think you can't really compare the Duet and Ultralite, the specs differ a lot so they are simply different beasts ;-) My recommendation: if you need top quality pre-amps for vocals and acoustic guitar and nothing else, I think the Duet might be a better choice. If you are looking for an allround multi-track interface for both live and studio usage, go for the Ultralite. An additional plus for the Ultralite is that it has multiple balanced output's. This means it's easy to setup 2 main mixes, one for your own monitor (usuallly unbalanced) and one for FOH (balanced). No DI's needed. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 11:44:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 570343BE8E; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kCrFH9/P6UnK+BJTrpO0zNV6u6+T1HdIAxr2cmzjLYo=; b=BkQDjkvDKqOJupg43k7oelc4Rz+ch2zDYHq3Ege/7QFHzup68g0StmsfzGMJ3jG0QD im26GNP4/PIJn5UNnZMlYLDFJk+ai98BKehysxaoOPE+AfjKdJs9EeWTKboG5uocH1CB jNLVFHnZZtUWsNNINhkXq8KInkH16Wj2nmWVE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tnqibDXhCNHNvsKyKcQRXY5XTxICAy4OeLZ/oUgfzoFnZCX0+vRb9W//tZMv1i53KN 9J6ep75HDjlpyBgzFwSLL5xusAlt2DYbJjDeNT3pYOatMG4hfXnk66rx2yDKXkP30O4O bBfpGEyTApSRUu8baAMj54+OzDs6N4GLtRDGI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37f071c00911021454x1a6a1998s6bdea762ed8d8f77@mail.gmail.com> References: <370478B6-A0D2-4D93-80F2-A239DD973F27@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911021344w78c9142ck395f3d699eea8d93@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911021423i1e2537adlcfb59a3e6e0a4737@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00911021454x1a6a1998s6bdea762ed8d8f77@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:44:23 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911030344s4312e80q2ed8025ee8146513@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Adrenalinn as a plug-in From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5c74efa57f1047776034a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:44:24 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd5c74efa57f1047776034a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/ Did a second download today, but the installer still lacks the plug-in files. What gets installed is a the PDF manual and a zip archive containing the license manager applications. To get the 14 days demo license I guess you would need to also download the actual plug-in files, which do not seem to have been posted yet. Reading the PDF manual got me very interested and I hope Linn will wrap up this release soon. Even though the needed Pluggo and Runtime are discontinued by Cycling74, in favor of Max For Live, they are fully Intel Mac compatible and I have not seen any warning that Pluggo and Runtime should not work with Snow Leopard. If that is correct one could say we will be able to use the AdrenaLinn Sync software long enough to justify buying it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --000e0cd5c74efa57f1047776034a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.ro= gerlinndesign.com/

Did a second download today, but the installe= r still lacks the plug-in files. What gets installed is a the PDF manual an= d a zip archive containing the license manager applications. To get the 14 = days demo license I guess you would need to also download the actual plug-i= n files, which do not seem to have been posted yet. Reading the PDF manual = got me very interested and I hope Linn will wrap up this release soon. Even= though the needed Pluggo and Runtime are discontinued by Cycling74, in fav= or of Max For Live, they are fully Intel Mac compatible and I have not seen= any warning that Pluggo and Runtime should not work with Snow Leopard. If = that is correct one could say we will be able to use the AdrenaLinn Sync so= ftware long enough to justify buying it.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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--000e0cd5c74efa57f1047776034a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 12:52:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A33A3BE79; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=EpXH1oc4FZ3mTrKqFov+caHPe0tv1jttaFZ+5gtOEt0=; b=kI5z6cug+nFGGU2KuYoUuBoAUGZ3PcUsi/M8JUm2Z2kQcjNtv34zy5MBP5K+O6FUH7 ijh+otdUhGSadm6ZnhIHf1zmP84+jDuutPLcInBQ41UsfXBv2Tne48dSyAGJiGHTFkUO SBtTmkBorpLwSIOVHuw0nNaiaOf47ErJafZOE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=WhNpTi7CePaEAk+1tT6fC7eRcjOAABngloTQ8DYtdtpUa5lCXhUZRvvyGDkeh1v/A1 tuKwrKFhG7qtLI/caU19J9sVPj9XIscY0IccA8ZUOLvpfY0KKi+H9FL9OzAP79e1fS5n 2+DqCgE4Eu/aqobSDV/mZn7qvdSEHb5+PdMW4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:51:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: New version of Bidule From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: LD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Bidule has been upgraded, looks like it has some new features too. http://www.kvraudio.com/news/12858.html -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 13:52:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD4DE3BE81; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2i1S69ZL0mWLEKuJ3SCbiw5ou69NC4iTJ9ynz3OK+Ok=; b=rI+VcY6yGxwocdcUuHOC7l5PxFLALpPJk2Pp+Aj191GwY4aV1UnFXxqNAQrZUQWjWN ou7iCIeCsSNPNeKIOv1GXVEtX0UXuuWZnN4A8nrtQcvO9b/cedXikmBLH2WD4uAMLN7A 7uLlhMJgfFrafvPZ6sA2uUmivuGumun75oucA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XZ+Gp/YeSqB1b3DWPBNy58qy7wRfeDhZmKRJbpUXowtZMp3Po7Xfo77/SKQRzbHcae HMrnZ5F5sKy0rNPPOCzzzhhe+gxUU2VvFIF1H0bZvfkt6gcxnJqTM5JZ/XBH1rK31ddo nUoxbelJiSWULwVSGn/QaRTNBCTW2umWCFS6g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:52:24 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911030552q1a96ed1csfb2f2c6072e1e19e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New version of Bidule From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd609d6cde0dc047777cd75 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:52:29 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd609d6cde0dc047777cd75 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Bidule has been upgraded, looks like it has some new features too. > > http://www.kvraudio.com/news/12858.html > Thanks for the hint! Downloading right now. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --000e0cd609d6cde0dc047777cd75 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:
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Find the right PC for y= ou. = --_665c4b2d-5e12-4b6a-8b99-31d1b9bd0895_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 15:13:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FFF03BE7E; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Subject: Re: Apogee Duet From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:13:08 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <2B6007FD-2A3F-47CB-9B66-BADAC280717D@gmail.com> <20091103101802.22830@gmx.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Throwing another option into the mix, does anyone have experience with Mackie's Firewire interfaces? I'm looking to replace my M-Audio FireWire Audiophile because it doesn't respond well to being turned off and on since it only wants to establish a connection with the computer at startup. This is presumably a driver issue, but it really stinks since I don't want to reboot my computer to connect to my audio interface. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 15:42:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABE143BE80; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:42:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=Fgl+6QUWB4AnYDf6daEfX7PxXJNQQSL3evD5EHT+oGM=; b=c053DB+kG/jSdmlGpZOyW9w6X2dIMV/h9YEmjkvpL/e+2jUGM+3yxBnAhxA9Z/9HEM 7slMHMw7SML3/irIDR1Yj2eVvLo9QgCnd/nml8/vFu7RQ5V7akzGws+Q149718+55Rpb N8qhA8bklatviq15XzIdALfXZxyMy2ozpPDiE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=nkFLTQ7t6aDUznqhEkAov4JAVVWsul7XwWcFJKljR6ELtfWlXodd3yuA1cAf8Yn6QR 21trfgeRnbXoe1jSBAoEEdyjIphKCWZLaSzxKQbKbb//u5HtYsOVca6Yk3WAg84+8uha RDWLIwQKf79kVW9/0gmK4NpNeDxwuzOmypPtU= Message-Id: <14DE546D-87E3-4C52-BACB-5D2ED2BA7883@gmail.com> From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Apogee Duet Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:42:31 -0500 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:42:34 +0000 (UTC) I gotta run to work but I wanted to give you a quick update. I spent this morning A/B'in the Ultralite and Duet. I have a Mk I Ultralite just to put that out there. I 'm not sure if there are different components used in the Mk III. The Duet does sound much better mic pre wise and for live usage I've going into the Duet and setting the XLR to +4dBu. My preamp for my double bass blends a pickup and mic and this gets a really clean signal into the Duet. When you switch it to this setting you don't control the volume with the Duet you control it from the preamp I realized. It sound amazing and most of the time I spent playing within Ableton Live with a buffer setting of 256. Just dring the last 15 minutes I switched it 128 to get lower latency and I didn't get any pops or clicks but it's way too early to decide if that usable for a live setting or not. If I can at least get by with a 256 buffer setting this is going to be the perfect device for me so I can record a high quality demo with the pianist I play with and I can use it to play our shows. My new preamp/blender is the same size as the duet so it will be amazing if it all works out having a smaller footprint. I'll keep you updated as I keep plugging away. Todd Matthews On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Evening, > Does anybody have experience in comparing the sound of Apogees Duet > to other interfaces. > I'm being seduced by its size and simplicity. I have an Original > Motu Ultralite that sounds good and is very reliable. And small. I > am just curious as to the claims of sonic superiority that Apogee > makes. > > Thanks > Chris > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 16:32:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C6923BE80; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:32:05 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091103163205.176560@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2B6007FD-2A3F-47CB-9B66-BADAC280717D@gmail.com> <20091103101802.22830@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Apogee Duet To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX189cwlvaC49F/pyapunWUOtlz64kAIQGUHOt6t+x4 3NQ+juBDjlq1Sr6yTtqdivcDfiLC6+fgG9/g== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: Si6RLpEla0A7fsh0jjAztyA/Njh6dA7t X-FuHaFi: 0.64 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:32:07 +0000 (UTC) > Throwing another option into the mix, does anyone have experience with > Mackie's Firewire interfaces? Hi Mark I love my Mackie Onyx mixer and the FW interface is ok, quite happy with latency. However there are two major drawbacks for me: 1. An input signal at very high level results in very low signal strength in the computer DAW. Even with max. volume on FW interface, I get ca. 20% volume in computer when I have 100% volume input signal strength. 2. The output signal level coming from the computer is insanely high. You cannot balance control the signal level (computer vs. mixer). So, let's say I'm listening to a CD on my mixer, when my computer starts playing music via Firwire, it just blows off my ears. These are quite subjective impressions - esp. focused on Mackie Firwire along with Mackie Mixer - , so feel free to google reviews. best regards Buzap -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3.5 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser From poste@poste.it Tue Nov 3 17:53:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 736 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:53:43 UTC Received: from server.trinitycatholic.net (exchange.trinitycatholic.net [208.118.97.143]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F213BE72 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([213.41.247.150]) by server.trinitycatholic.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:40:51 -0700 From: "Poste.it" Subject: COMUNICAZIONE URGENTE PER I TITOLARI DI POSTE! 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Ti preghiamo di non inviare alcuna risposta a questo messaggio e-mail, poiche' non verra' presa in considerazione. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 18:02:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2343D3BE80; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References; b=0/jNoytCbiP2595unpmujxZftdxlBja65owjRABv1t9bND2GwdOwcYJaFbfCSNa5w2FsvcVa1ODuoiM5tSmJWt08WHXwRqwQGOktcw1cZDf0nIXyZaJhzo8LErPoHoSlaejr6kiSI9hpTXsgqdJK4eJiFy6Ser7AkpqUiVRBzIY= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: 8t_65bYVM1lLIeoxDW65MU_J4T0h0BDPrIlSkcLVRlbre1p3rwjBkj8F4MTBq5JowOEk5mCx9xzb6foFUzKQaE25bSXjhPnDAjzfyPXmbfWMA5wM5TlWDEWgF7dX8D2XZDsEF3G0x2GNcEMcekNXbtz_58QQfzE3xvDUdJkQ7mwenWn83VyPq6Xf3n2Uis8FZfX8CuTvoO8FRMrweK_7yFigwdJsutnEEfpEbKc.F6dvU3TvBSEwtK8ECVYLypu7lw4OUORS5KCBShC_4YUd8Fesq3Fuq47Fz3DK_VotgA26bSfKL9SF8P6wi3JcR_p8Q6eG55i15C6Fba4Z0RaU3fz0 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-Id: From: Ricky Graham To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911030310l90e862ak5c63a2bdc42ebc3f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--208734707 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7D11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7D11) Subject: Re: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:02:19 +0000 References: <1f0784c0911021144g453f740o2682f7bd8ca4ec9f@mail.gmail.com> <9C069B87213C466C8489784D41544104@williamsteed> <66f9cc1e0911030310l90e862ak5c63a2bdc42ebc3f@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:02:31 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--208734707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > acoustoelectric What was wrong with electro-acoustic? :) R Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Today finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! From > Pat's description it sounds pretty close to what people on this list > are doing: > > a new performance method to present music alone onstage using > acoustic and acoustoelectric musical instruments that are > mechanically controlled using the power of modern technology. > > Can't wait to hear and see what it really is about! :-) > I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com --Apple-Mail-1--208734707 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

perboysen@gmail.com> = wrote:

Today = finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! =46rom Pat's = description it sounds pretty close to what people on this list are = doing:

a new performance method to present music alone onstage using acoustic = and acoustoelectric musical instruments that are mechanically controlled = using the power of modern technology.

Can't wait to = hear and see what it really is about! :-)
I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also = possible?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
= --Apple-Mail-1--208734707-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 18:14:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF5BD3BE81; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:14:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Mv+bo++3zH9raMYTE88mNEaN3z/+2mdgeNns5sskGZ4=; b=ximHmvdaw2JIuyKaLYTukY8Xdmw6duXEugj/bQd5Ds0FwyUFVItUmhUDFr8L7RIar1 hRGER8UR2XOTl5cc44MY9JeICzuQfU1DPkInri1unvfzZ1pg36l3z3/8N2IThs2nmgFC d+ekMTglXi2Y5qgGCLKVsYnCxHBF7hCu3ivUs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KqXnmxXh7RSf2WqluNKvbHX8MbJ1vRxh4GR+aEZJrrAoWJJNJtKSbhGxnOFQrq39F+ kWnkc5T5varlUWUG8U2glfhee9LU0HbZAbT3C4eXpA1F6hCPONhDCNVIo/RAVTY3aTpE lVEf7HHuX0G8l/XNphs3BSXC0lYRbviyWessY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1f0784c0911021144g453f740o2682f7bd8ca4ec9f@mail.gmail.com> <9C069B87213C466C8489784D41544104@williamsteed> <66f9cc1e0911030310l90e862ak5c63a2bdc42ebc3f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:14:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d9677e7fe47904777b7800 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:14:54 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d9677e7fe47904777b7800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i guess electro-acoustic is more electro than acoustic :-) 2009/11/3 Ricky Graham > acoustoelectric > > > What was wrong with electro-acoustic? :) > > R > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > Today finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! From Pat's > description it sounds pretty close to what people on this list are doing: > > a new performance method to present music alone onstage using acoustic and >> acoustoelectric musical instruments that are mechanically controlled using >> the power of modern technology. >> > > Can't wait to hear and see what it really is about! :-) > I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d9677e7fe47904777b7800 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i guess electro-acoustic is more electro than acoustic :-)

2009/11/3 Ricky Graham <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com= >
acoustoelectric

What was wron= g with electro-acoustic? :)

R

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Today finally that page l= oaded. Quite interesting write-up! From Pat's description it sounds pre= tty close to what people on this list are doing:

a new performance method to present music alone onstage using acoustic and = acoustoelectric musical instruments that are mechanically controlled using = the power of modern technology.

Can't wait to hear = and see what it really is about! :-)
I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible?
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



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--0016e6d9677e7fe47904777b7800-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 18:18:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E0023BE77; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nCdj2H5NWOVcIfu8CL/vY0Sc7mm5Tc6XLkb4CqkqJN0=; b=pKkW1bJRaudzyBV6aCXy+4qVsPFNpaMy4jw6gnrEeWV1rofo5YUip3yYMaWWg9XQTl 1OXR2Xlx17tli1+1EIFcUzsZtpi9575yu+1o6JDmwqeEtgHtqXBtHm8jyJ7RjACkGviP hReYl0xeRhXlR69dJ+VhCoRs3DaSYuiEgryqs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BThwItHekac8CqRN9iz5wWQBC6kyqBlVteuHOLueJi8tnY/LR0B92Gp2z5ADlF8DwE FFXKDGF2BmTQIYe4ARgsb7wTKWOthQMlJx6BjcNHsEErX3rtG4TdRNU/ySpEhOaj4Bp8 YbkSl+l1cXIIAS+z1iNbtf++9b79mKH74c5Gg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14DE546D-87E3-4C52-BACB-5D2ED2BA7883@gmail.com> References: <14DE546D-87E3-4C52-BACB-5D2ED2BA7883@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:18:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Apogee Duet From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d976fb1094da04777b84e2 Resent-Message-ID: <6k5S9.A.lpE.gPH8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:18:08 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d976fb1094da04777b84e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 which preamp is that todd? for micing live, i use a Ted Fletcher P4, small, stereo, with compressor and limiter. 2009/11/3 Todd Matthews > I gotta run to work but I wanted to give you a quick update. I spent this > morning A/B'in the Ultralite and Duet. I have a Mk I Ultralite just to put > that out there. I 'm not sure if there are different components used in the > Mk III. > > The Duet does sound much better mic pre wise and for live usage I've going > into the Duet and setting the XLR to +4dBu. My preamp for my double bass > blends a pickup and mic and this gets a really clean signal into the Duet. > When you switch it to this setting you don't control the volume with the > Duet you control it from the preamp I realized. It sound amazing and most of > the time I spent playing within Ableton Live with a buffer setting of 256. > Just dring the last 15 minutes I switched it 128 to get lower latency and I > didn't get any pops or clicks but it's way too early to decide if that > usable for a live setting or not. If I can at least get by with a 256 buffer > setting this is going to be the perfect device for me so I can record a high > quality demo with the pianist I play with and I can use it to play our > shows. My new preamp/blender is the same size as the duet so it will be > amazing if it all works out having a smaller footprint. I'll keep you > updated as I keep plugging away. > > > > Todd Matthews > On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > > Evening, >> Does anybody have experience in comparing the sound of Apogees Duet to >> other interfaces. >> I'm being seduced by its size and simplicity. I have an Original Motu >> Ultralite that sounds good and is very reliable. And small. I am just >> curious as to the claims of sonic superiority that Apogee makes. >> >> Thanks >> Chris >> >> > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d976fb1094da04777b84e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable which preamp is that todd? for micing live, i use a Ted Fletcher P4, small,= stereo, with compressor and limiter.

200= 9/11/3 Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
I gotta run to wo= rk but I wanted to give you a quick update. I spent this morning A/B'in= the Ultralite and Duet. I have a Mk I Ultralite just to put that out there= . I 'm not sure if there are different components used in the Mk III.
The Duet does sound much better mic pre wise and for live usage I've go= ing into the Duet and setting the XLR to +4dBu. My preamp for my double bas= s blends a pickup and mic and this gets a really clean signal into the Duet= . When you switch it to this setting you don't control the volume with = the Duet you control it from the preamp I realized. It sound amazing and mo= st of the time I spent playing within Ableton Live with a buffer setting of= 256. Just dring the last 15 minutes I switched it 128 to get lower latency= and I didn't get any pops or clicks but it's way too early to deci= de if that usable for a live setting or not. If I can at least get by with = a 256 buffer setting this is going to be the perfect device for me so I can= record a high quality demo with the pianist I play with and I can use it t= o play our shows. My new preamp/blender is the same size as the duet so it = will be amazing if it all works out having a smaller footprint. I'll ke= ep you updated as I keep plugging away.



Todd Matthews
On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Chris Sewell wrote:

Evening,
Does anybody have experience in comparing the sound of Apogees Duet to othe= r interfaces.
I'm being seduced by its size and simplicity. I have an Original Motu U= ltralite that sounds good and is very reliable. And small. I am just curiou= s as to the claims of sonic superiority that Apogee =A0 makes.

Thanks
Chris





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--0016e6d976fb1094da04777b84e2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 18:22:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3A393BE80; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed In-reply-to: <14DE546D-87E3-4C52-BACB-5D2ED2BA7883@gmail.com> References: <14DE546D-87E3-4C52-BACB-5D2ED2BA7883@gmail.com> Message-id: <23D5DFF9-6B68-4895-9090-9F49277B0873@mac.com> From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Apogee Duet Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:21:58 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <8XOV4C.A.yCF.QTH8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Thanks so much Todd. On Nov 3, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I gotta run to work but I wanted to give you a quick update. I > spent this morning A/B'in the Ultralite and Duet. I have a Mk I > Ultralite just to put that out there. I 'm not sure if there are > different components used in the Mk III. > > The Duet does sound much better mic pre wise and for live usage > I've going into the Duet and setting the XLR to +4dBu. My preamp > for my double bass blends a pickup and mic and this gets a really > clean signal into the Duet. When you switch it to this setting you > don't control the volume with the Duet you control it from the > preamp I realized. It sound amazing and most of the time I spent > playing within Ableton Live with a buffer setting of 256. Just > dring the last 15 minutes I switched it 128 to get lower latency > and I didn't get any pops or clicks but it's way too early to > decide if that usable for a live setting or not. If I can at least > get by with a 256 buffer setting this is going to be the perfect > device for me so I can record a high quality demo with the pianist > I play with and I can use it to play our shows. My new preamp/ > blender is the same size as the duet so it will be amazing if it > all works out having a smaller footprint. I'll keep you updated as > I keep plugging away. > > > Todd Matthews > On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > >> Evening, >> Does anybody have experience in comparing the sound of Apogees >> Duet to other interfaces. >> I'm being seduced by its size and simplicity. I have an Original >> Motu Ultralite that sounds good and is very reliable. And small. I >> am just curious as to the claims of sonic superiority that >> Apogee makes. >> >> Thanks >> Chris >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 18:23:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3B4A3BE81; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer; b=T7iyDj89QAT5NXFv9Najm9Akb8xLOs1EH0D8ZxEopOPn6CsLwO0DgE2w5aaOOUl0K5bCJcXzp1PTTBkYx6pTJbHOxld/z2z4GYpD33N+/SrMWdCIlYww7gJoNtn3C+kOoQ1qUpoDUjrtvt6JYc1KKtHMlw+ihVA2Vo7Y594jrlo= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: 08YJS1kVM1lI4AAclEzaaJFXBcp3Pn53D0SuvKmHFITcLYDix9rHgL0Fm7Sy7jWfqgObWfJ68nrATCteOMFVfnTLT8sZ4NfSiJWWiKfNt5sMfLXZdrSMgVgk.WgEiSnm_Bj_IZa4GcyM5OB4dUzIW1Hz54lRKuvWYdzKAalcvas01iSLe2_0F75dEeoMXuPJM8iZMsgdj5MSfxbiOkGO7n07TjM364jm..c1lXtE4y8QjkuC0oprZVyw_RCHpYuXrY14t_m_ArUIzfI65QLf.UWjO55IOcw10HmEaZCp_Z18ciXzRrP_YkpfaPqUl7DMSSxLAYxBIDXv72CsCr6bqf4XDKg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-Id: <41F4A181-5CAA-45ED-9457-B932692E83E2@btinternet.com> From: Ricky Graham To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--207563833 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7D11) Subject: Re: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:21:11 +0000 References: <1f0784c0911021144g453f740o2682f7bd8ca4ec9f@mail.gmail.com> <9C069B87213C466C8489784D41544104@williamsteed> <66f9cc1e0911030310l90e862ak5c63a2bdc42ebc3f@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7D11) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:23:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--207563833 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Interesting, Raul. I'll bare that in mind. :) Thank you. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2009, at 6:14 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > i guess electro-acoustic is more electro than acoustic :-) > > 2009/11/3 Ricky Graham >> acoustoelectric > > What was wrong with electro-acoustic? :) > > R > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> Today finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! From >> Pat's description it sounds pretty close to what people on this >> list are doing: >> >> a new performance method to present music alone onstage using >> acoustic and acoustoelectric musical instruments that are >> mechanically controlled using the power of modern technology. >> >> Can't wait to hear and see what it really is about! :-) >> I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible? >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com > > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > --Apple-Mail-2--207563833 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Interesting, Raul. I'll bare that in mind. :) Thank you.  

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 3, 2009, at 6:14 PM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:

i guess electro-acoustic is more electro than acoustic :-)

2009/11/3 Ricky Graham <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com>
acoustoelectric

What was wrong with electro-acoustic? :)

R

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

Today finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! From Pat's description it sounds pretty close to what people on this list are doing:

a new performance method to present music alone onstage using acoustic and acoustoelectric musical instruments that are mechanically controlled using the power of modern technology.

Can't wait to hear and see what it really is about! :-)
I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



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So,i want to ask you to quietly look for a reliable and honest person who w= ill be capable and fit to provide either an existing bank account or to set= up a new Bank account immediately to receive this money,even an empty bank= account can serve to receive this money,as long as you will remain honest = to me till the end of this important business trusting in you and believing= in God that you will never let me down either now or in future. I am MR.ALHAJI IBRAHIM JEGA,the Auditor General of a bank in Burkina Faso, = during the course of our auditing,I discovered a floating fund in an accoun= t opened in the bank for years and nobody is operated on this account again= ,after going through some old files in the records I discovered that the ow= ner of the account died without a [heir] hence the money is floating and if= I do not remit this money out urgently it will be forfeited for nothing. The owner of this account is MR.HAJI EL JAMAL ZOUE,a foreigner,and an Indus= trialist, who died since 2003 and no other person knows about this account = or anything concerning it,the account has no other beneficiary. The amount involved is (USD11,300,000,000) Eleven million three hundred Uni= ted States of American Dollars only. I am only contacting you as a foreigner because this money can not be appro= ved to a local person here,without valid international foreign passport,but= it can only be approved to a foreigner with valid international passport o= r drivers license and foreign bank account because the money is in US DOLLA= RS and the former owner of the account MR.HAJI EL JAMAL ZOUE is a foreigner= too, and the money can only be approved into a foreign bank account. However, we will sign a binding agreement, to bind us together. Also I want= you to know that am revealing this business to you with believe in God tha= t you will never let me down in this business, you are the first and the on= ly person that I am contacting for this business, so please reply urgently = so that I will inform you on the next step to take urgently.Send also your = private telephone and fax numbers for easy communication. I want us to meet face to face if possible to build confidence and trust an= d to sign a binding agreement that will bind us together before transferrin= g the money to any account of your choice where the fund will be safe befor= e i fly to your country for withdrawal,sharing and investments. I need your full co-operation to make this work fine because the management= is ready to approve this payment to any foreigner who has correct informat= ion of this account, which I will give to you,upon your positive response a= nd once I am convinced that you are capable and will meet up with instructi= ons. I need your strong assurance that you will never,never betray me or let me = down. With my influence and the position of the bank official,i can transfe= r this money to any foreigner's reliable account which you can provide with= assurance that this money will be intact pending until my physical arrival= in your country for sharing. I will destroy all documents of transaction immediately we receive this mon= ey into your bank account and leaving no trace to any place and to build co= nfidence you can come immediately to discuss with me face to face after whi= ch I will make this remittance in your presence and two of us will fly back= to your country at least two days ahead of the money going into the accoun= t. I will apply for annual leave to get visa immediately I hear from you that = you are ready to act and receive this fund in your account. I will use my position and influence to obtain all legal approvals for onwa= rd transfer of this money to your bank account with appropriate clearance f= rom the relevant ministries and foreign exchange departments. At the conclusion of this business, you will be given 40% of the total amou= nt, 60% will be for me.I look forward to your arliest reply to my alternati= ve email address at (mrjea02@msn.com) Regards and God Blessed. Yours Brother MR.ALHAJI IBRAHIM JEGA TELEPHONE: +226-75595403=A0 --0-67149783-1257327397=:32541 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
FROM MR.ALHAJI IBRAHIM JEGA
D= ear Friend,



Please i want to transfer to overseas ($11,300,0= 00.00USD)Eleven million three hundred United States of American dollars onl= y) from a Bank in Burkina Faso.

So,i want to ask you to quietly look= for a reliable and honest person who will be capable and fit to provide ei= ther an existing bank account or to set up a new Bank account immediately t= o receive this money,even an empty bank account can se= rve to receive this money,as long as you will remain honest to me till the = end of this important business trusting in you and believing in God that you will never let me d= own either now or in future.

I am MR.ALHAJI IBRAHIM JEGA,the <= SPAN class=3Decxyshortcuts id=3Decxlw_1251684470_1>Auditor General of a b= ank in Burkina Faso, during the course of our auditing,I discovered a floating fund in an account opened in the bank= for years and nobody is operated on this account again,after going through= some old files in the records I discovered that the owner of the account d= ied without a [heir] hence the money is floating and if I do not remit this= money out urgently it will be forfeited for nothing.

The owner of t= his account is MR.HAJI EL JAMAL ZOUE,a foreigner,and an Industrialist, who = died since 2003 and no other person knows about this account or anything co= ncerning it,the account has no other beneficiary.

The amount involve= d is (USD11,300,000,000) Eleven million three hundred United States of Amer= ican Dollars only.

I am only contacting you as a foreigner because t= his money can not be approved to a local person here,without valid internat= ional foreign passport,but it can only be approved to a foreigner with vali= d international passport or drivers license and foreign bank account because the money is in US DOLLARS and the former owner of the account MR.= HAJI EL JAMAL ZOUE is a foreigner too, and the money can only be approved i= nto a foreign bank account.

However, we will sign a binding agreemen= t, to bind us together. Also I want you to know that am revealing this busi= ness to you with believe in God that you will never let me down in this bus= iness, you are the first and the only person that I am contacting for this = business, so please reply urgently so that I will inform you on the next st= ep to take urgently.Send also your private telephone and fax numbers for ea= sy communication.

I want us to meet face to face if possible to buil= d confidence and trust and to sign a binding agreement that will bind us to= gether before transferring the money to any account of your choice where th= e fund will be safe before i fly to your country for withdrawal,sharing and= investments.

I need your full co-operation to make this work fine because the management is ready to approve this payment to any foreig= ner who has correct information of this account, which I will give to you,u= pon your positive response and once I am convinced that you are capable and= will meet up with instructions.

I need your strong assurance that y= ou will never,never betray me or let me down. With my influence and the pos= ition of the bank official,i can transfer this money to any foreigner's rel= iable account which you can provide with assurance that this money will be = intact pending until my physical arrival in your country for sharing.

I will destroy all documents of transaction immediately we receive th= is money into your bank account and leaving no trace to any place and to bu= ild confidence you can come immediately to discuss with me face to face aft= er which I will make this remittance in your presence and two of us will fl= y back to your country at least two days ahead of the money going into the account.

I will apply for annual leave to get visa immedia= tely I hear from you that you are ready to act and receive this fund in you= r account.

I will use my position and influence to obtain all legal = approvals for onward transfer of this money to your bank account with appro= priate clearance from the relevant ministries and foreign exchange departme= nts.

At the conclusion of this business, you will be given 40% of th= e total amount, 60% will be for me.I look forward to your arliest reply to = my alternative email address at (<= SPAN class=3Decxyshortcuts id=3Decxlw_1252083953_2 style=3D"BACKGROUND: non= e transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; CURSOR: hand; BORDER-BOTTOM: #0066cc 1px= dashed"><= SPAN class=3Decxyshortcuts id=3Decxlw_1256212333_2 style=3D"BACKGROUND: non= e transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; CURSOR: hand; BORDER-BOTTOM: #0066cc 1px= dashed">mrjea02@msn.com
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Regards and God Blessed.
Yours Brother
MR.ALHAJI IBR= AHIM JEGA
TELEPHONE: +226-75595403 <= /DIV>
--0-67149783-1257327397=:32541-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 12:38:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0CA63BE82; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jl8pLLlk2YyywTD2mAQz2Mm7U1D40DGgXQ37UOvqD/w=; b=g8XgUcD8TMaDqLn+kAnqbLRdWzDq4cIWJ+OLYAgZN9VJYWOgVjHOibUrMnlCXW5XPy w80IvJNCmi3qJ07tW+cdPgma1+npr0hyYNrsHUD0jY3wGhYPiW/g/eScx1en1jXIClRB JbLSLNSQRvMOdRecpiYPtP+vR5GCaTwYM9k5E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=ekTn9oupXcOS9kdkf95BQduaffASw5cxtfDD1FNR8+9FrzNoX9Xd8zN3HMPaIow3kp faCpWDGTU0zm6ehHXwnCqVe3e0VsoJxBpt73B9J/v6PaD5uTnTYBXr7NdzTcQ8OikTOx iMqjBkT1R5zHaQp7UIR1/iElhqXEQz1mud4nY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:38:47 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 369fe63679a6980d Message-ID: Subject: eigenharp roadshow From: Os To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I've secured an invite to the Eigenharp Roadshow next week. Let me know if anyone has any questions you'd like me to ask. cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 12:58:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FC1C3BE7C; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NmpGDidMcIOfBrGkLslDk7O6wEVifyhbhct0+8U7hYY=; b=wj2lzk8CAdYazMHpTCnn5f7eRHoXdIZtdLb8v/A4gXgwmVWkrjacTnxwqqCwMR9wD0 L9P4P1EQcAN+30zWVrH5UidKG1mxOGm6/DsdbS7glnR8hZ5O65sDJAi5rlxHOv7n9H/7 skqdso8/7AsKQHIyfPwI4Gx8wspGThIo+SQMg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=t7Qerd/w4CiOJ7ee68k6SZNa199U0p9D0VZqWBl+wGILE8NiCbMUMgjJ5Cidb3a24x W0B2vb2H0I8tTCVdXdHtOt0eCBWLbW9XE8TjU2XEqivDu96cPlxU8qbgidmItg/rcSC4 ZggAQfG5ggNYDEljXFgFuA+ZJDZl+1TVTyx/s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:58:45 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:58:46 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Os wrote: > I've secured an invite to the Eigenharp Roadshow next week. > > Let me know if anyone has any questions you'd like me to ask. I'd like to hear about the company's plans on a future model that focuses on controlling external electronics and that doesn't come with all the on-board sound banks and built-in audio engine. Some of the reps mentioned this briefly in a video but without going into details. Background: I'm not comfy with the idea of buying an electronic/mechanic instrument where you pay a lot of money for its ability to play on-board sounds, that you might not even like. And if you want a bigger sound palette it is the same company that provides the expansion libraries. This marketing concept sort of contradicts everything that is cool and creative to me with modularity, open-source, community... and music. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 13:01:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E9833BE80; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=yCakxXqiB0nhTspxm+ARgW6rI0GIerg48d7tPBf+JLM=; b=g1U22n/ankohcGE1wMoYnNqOEK+JDYiqNrSalECCOBxzCyEETYo8OzSiqKmSO6ARSK PtC/99hCYC7Lhm75V2THe6b+MVGBq2Add1Voa7sCy3g2UPYcPNGu1nJ/VNQX+O0A/IWn qXhdjzvTyL1xEsdVLnpXrEyPwim6Tvz4HOjyU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZM3Z9uvNnj0GuEoJjeQIk+LmMSpilTCgjrVapqiHB0gujXbL2BPS4SCRluT01fVhtN ezAR1ho/gz3z5mjtxe2634tSh9ZxDQ/UE25muaBhd8qi2YlYbY74DIm1JaD1oGOpO61D pqUdNc0eHNOaILJQcz60fsilmSiGQP06IecUE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:01:08 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 47bbf935ba88e562 Message-ID: Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per, I think you need to re-read what's already online. There are no onboard sounds at all - it's all done on the Mac. cheers, os. 2009/11/4 Per Boysen : > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Os wrote: >> I've secured an invite to the Eigenharp Roadshow next week. >> >> Let me know if anyone has any questions you'd like me to ask. > > > I'd like to hear about the company's plans on a future model that > focuses on controlling external electronics and that doesn't come with > all the on-board sound banks and built-in audio engine. Some of the > reps mentioned this briefly in a video but without going into details. > > Background: > I'm not comfy with the idea of buying an electronic/mechanic > instrument where you pay a lot of money for its ability to play > on-board sounds, that you might not even like. And if you want a > bigger sound palette it is the same company that provides the > expansion libraries. This marketing concept sort of contradicts > everything that is cool and creative to me with modularity, > open-source, community... and music. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 13:19:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 757EA3BE7E; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:19:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LRfQXgUVjVUYrBFU7MBK4WCeQB68T1hJAZJyBhoYWLM=; b=xgxfh1t99mUXrySGa1IV0Z0Hw+m398Liejy+pdCqRwB++tShkhSMUc1Rns8VG8LRrl JtN5Llz86egiAqW6Wh+VALnL52t+1Jy7UnB5lOW+yIVRoMNR9eNbD9AFwrf88nJc+dgG 1xdXmKkbLS8pBqAXA/TkHV3zCixxVc+pNttD0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bQ7ac1pha3diuCvaksevUnjSQWOyQJqaUMCb/RONdPJub8r7yk1gD6RQaAsHND4GrU q2S4NXq3xUFPqX4+3wvg5F8OXtuCeT3k9M/R6yz8/0CrpA3USDM45nefs91JZyJpYLLg FpNH+y02HYd1vHjsOvsGjfB8b2KekBUja02aY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:19:03 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:19:04 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Os wrote: > I think you need to re-read what's already online. There are no > onboard sounds at all - it's all done on the Mac. Ah, that's good news! I was under the impression that the Mac software is just a sort of extension of the Eigenharp's built-in hardware. Anyway, I'm still interested in hearing about advanced controller capabilities. MIDI and OSC specifications? How many physical continuous controller tools? Do they work at the same time as you are playing "notes"? Someone mentioned in a video it is "Apple Loop compatible", so does that mean you import an Apple Loop into a memory and trig it from the pads on the Eigenharp? Or can you even create an Apple Loop *inside* the Eigenharp from what you are playing? And if that is possible - is the process real-time or is it like in Logic; you load up a utility where you type in characteristics for the loop and save it to disk. per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 13:26:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35F3C3BE81; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:26:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=o9QOrgoRoYS+bpcD1Kkge5ws3w0xnzexf2OvhREn9F8=; b=nbfjfa1gwZQ5i9ieWr5TZAImJOPMBrXzOPo4YOxklU+0uRPxvk08wnuTzHhheHTZn8 XAcYsaE7LIqzoSD/6mS0HG1rieGV886KSgOkazwG8KseU60B2PWrj2Gs9FEYsWnG6DbM 3wUdqrborHWF7PQZ5cT/afLu19fvBf7p1w7h8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=HX8njCkXJ09Px5mUpBrJVyqPA1arImW6zikVmNaBguRAf3cn9pVipgrLL/VAk4W+nw Fef2pBRZF425Jk0uwcMCd3MdeE+eXWZNW69peUUTZY426FFpBflo45TWcpUu6m1yZSJ6 vfvucIavk6oex/v6HvEfnYnR2O+mMB4ngiERg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:26:41 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 52185ac405d54d1c Message-ID: Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:26:45 +0000 (UTC) Some of this is already answered: > MIDI and OSC specifications? No OSC yet. "Almost any control from the keyboard or MIDI inputs can be used to manipulate any parameter in the system." "Hardware MIDI Output interface." "Hardware MIDI Input interface." see http://www.eigenlabs.com/software/ > How many physical > continuous controller tools? 132 keys x 3 axes per key 2 ribbons 1 breathe pipe see http://www.eigenlabs.com/alpha/ > Do they work at the same time as you are > playing "notes"? yes > Someone mentioned in a video it is "Apple Loop > compatible", so does that mean you import an Apple Loop into a memory > and trig it from the pads on the Eigenharp? yes - http://www.eigenlabs.com/software/ > Or can you even create an > Apple Loop *inside* the Eigenharp from what you are playing? And if > that is possible - is the process real-time or is it like in Logic; > you load up a utility where you type in characteristics for the loop > and save it to disk. I've not heard of any real-time looping capability. cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 13:35:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E9B13BE7E; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=P4zW2gkyo9Sq+UhKDySqh06d8X2Ih5gzbkYPNKm4Iuh6IKYMCLKc8dAWzgmvZI81ryvC6XG8ZGfElulses7qrvcKUnTRw4slHm1nXfQVYkEDk5do9Pwxmybkkowcn2hi39ckq3GL8DwE/E8jdmp8RD4HKqKE2XxYaPrKqj/R04o= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: wO0XKx4VM1m1fFzcp8JlskVrGNOgitKIDCiD5aNHAYNjEDc5o99S04myZvrT6QYcuHwJih4G8ZKLk7gRP4KQv5ccmS0z6Ls.H93qUJxil09ZdfoG0Q.rcRCHE.TZ5CEXbCrq5Mg1FWw8OtE8InKZNECKlatiw9qsppuKQeNBp.fa0UrWKPX1XkMoW5BRzl7uSFUJNsXRB5qkTlo9AZJOM.icR6_2ObXXZ8J4HUEdpIDb6gtMgi4rG5T..qk35Ap6Xwl31Cn8MNd4dzSsFBsAbxbdChRT1hlDEEwysEf2A3oZTG5RFgkiesQUfYH2._LOZv3Mx5DTpxUuiNiRAQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <002e01ca5d53$b7a89d30$4701a8c0@ad9f1e10631784> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:35:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per, I think it uses it's own protocol. There are some informative interviews here and so on; Linkage; http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/10/06/first-look-the-eigenlabs-eigenharp/ http://www.youtube.com/user/eigenlabs http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8294355.stm Best, Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:19 PM Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Os wrote: >> I think you need to re-read what's already online. There are no >> onboard sounds at all - it's all done on the Mac. > > Ah, that's good news! I was under the impression that the Mac software > is just a sort of extension of the Eigenharp's built-in hardware. > Anyway, I'm still interested in hearing about advanced controller > capabilities. MIDI and OSC specifications? How many physical > continuous controller tools? Do they work at the same time as you are > playing "notes"? Someone mentioned in a video it is "Apple Loop > compatible", so does that mean you import an Apple Loop into a memory > and trig it from the pads on the Eigenharp? Or can you even create an > Apple Loop *inside* the Eigenharp from what you are playing? And if > that is possible - is the process real-time or is it like in Logic; > you load up a utility where you type in characteristics for the loop > and save it to disk. > > per > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 13:46:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A6C03BE80; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 283937228/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.170.186/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.170.186 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmQBAKIU8UpPTqq6/2dsb2JhbAAIhGrHZpEVgTKCOFME X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,680,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="283937228" Message-ID: <4AF185D3.2080503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:46:59 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow References: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:46:59 +0000 (UTC) There's a review of Eigenharp in this months Sound On Sound. No mention of Osc. Each button is polyhonically pressure sensitive, and sends controllers if pushed in either X or Y axis. 2 Ribbon controllers, absolute or relative either side of "fingerboard". Main controller is connected to a base station by a "starquad cable". ...which indicates a serial protocol, so I'd be checking for latency beyond that expected by a usb controller. Anyway, I guess you guys are more into the pico. 18 keys 4 simple buttons usb connection (no base station) £349 Both models use the same control software, which can host soundfont, au and send out midi & audio. To get any flexibility worth having, you need to learn a language called "Belcanto", something the reviewer did not attempt. andy butler personally, I'm sticking with the klarnet :-) Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Os wrote: >> I think you need to re-read what's already online. There are no >> onboard sounds at all - it's all done on the Mac. > > Ah, that's good news! I was under the impression that the Mac software > is just a sort of extension of the Eigenharp's built-in hardware. > Anyway, I'm still interested in hearing about advanced controller > capabilities. MIDI and OSC specifications? How many physical > continuous controller tools? Do they work at the same time as you are > playing "notes"? Someone mentioned in a video it is "Apple Loop > compatible", so does that mean you import an Apple Loop into a memory > and trig it from the pads on the Eigenharp? Or can you even create an > Apple Loop *inside* the Eigenharp from what you are playing? And if > that is possible - is the process real-time or is it like in Logic; > you load up a utility where you type in characteristics for the loop > and save it to disk. > > per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 13:52:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5453C3BE84; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 283939356/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.170.186/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.170.186 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmQBAM8V8UpPTqq6/2dsb2JhbAAIhGrHapEVgTKCOFME X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,680,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="283939356" Message-ID: <4AF18708.6000300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:52:08 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow pt2 References: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Someone mentioned in a video it is "Apple Loop > compatible", so does that mean you import an Apple Loop into a memory > and trig it from the pads on the Eigenharp? yes >Or can you even create an > Apple Loop *inside* the Eigenharp from what you are playing? you can plug in a microphone, the reviewer thought you could loop it > And if > that is possible - is the process real-time or is it like in Logic; > you load up a utility where you type in characteristics for the loop > and save it to disk. maybe google "Belcanto" > > per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 14:56:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3487D3BE81; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:56:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:56:03 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091104145603.255690@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX190WTRe/mt0zTcCnrWBEbz1HjWQ8kgvjzgKS7p6qn H2eIY5PxQJjT856TwbM8IomjZwxwXao3kbAQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: YvqaIqg2TlI8ccF+jGlrS5pOU2poZZn4 X-FuHaFi: 0.78 Resent-Message-ID: <-dIhlC.A.RlD.HYZ8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:56:07 +0000 (UTC) If I remember right, they intentionally ditched OSC. I thought they _did_ have own sounds included in the Eigenharp -giving it stand-alone capability? best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 15:22:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0B033BE80; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Q++oqy8eJjZWObOqrIwEMilixybYiL29C0OueQEPwsM=; b=g8oIAX9j1+tz7KulPK80RU+zaoTLF6xid0lQL7aPdLJVkfKElMRG3+M6rBUbDLff/U XBZUa9849cbGVe1l4VGituArTJHkZufzcDsqrntGHv4i1sZfw0jsGXYoZ8gBjOAXWJzf doe2TS5uUaVgP1eNR4BbTYBUPM/bnuyCPAVWI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vzTBQX/4kbHQBudkSCfMYLBrE1Ot13JarwK8REnCDaVmZ9FfFeA93eB1nfVI37RR5j cW4Y1opEyFPAVCcM4ds5hd17e9CNl2eAncdQgMBxojqCgB82AtwmHdl/GkwTkHS0fEfC zhlQQW37XsWdeJ49CnYEAJ0UmHJGJYHnJLkAU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:21:58 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911040721w67721ef3meb870471ea20c239@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:22:02 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Os wrote: > > I've not heard of any real-time looping capability. Just noticed they demonstrate that at 14 minutes into this video: http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/10/06/first-look-the-eigenlabs-eigenharp/ Don't know if that's supposed to be labeled "audio looping" or "MIDI looping" though, so let's just call it "Eigenharp looping" ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 15:26:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59BBA3BE84; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kqZOw7pi8WXTuK4wxPpjmoRyOCE31JUApJ5PmyR9Z3A=; b=XLB1vKkKc8NslxSa1w8bI3u73/lOkzcLB6tp+Y+l6hibBCtL0RJgPpUSBnbkp51dm8 jzLHOLbiXyP0QN7A9cmPhv5mv/4LPDgkYPXlUWylDxpGfkGJ61OumsYchEwh6Hr84XTd eco7uHhh1LPyWHUaeKoh+CfZCius3oDArfiho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kqYTVRwqlNnK/uxVr/vjvvNWt84X4LG0WupOQQL27bZmnJV5LU1oxSBH06onrnlx/1 uTQV2XbCI4vlBmh9feM7/DTtRE3TB+6grUbIHj1XLQDAeHKiSEntIGPKoAtnAGQakN+X wR5BW7jhwEzSk6fJ1j8lug2U8Vk8QrhdF8SQg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <20091104145603.255690@gmx.net> References: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> <20091104145603.255690@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:26:25 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2e0eeacc6dde3d67 Message-ID: Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:26:27 +0000 (UTC) > If I remember right, they intentionally ditched OSC. the line was that they needed to define their own protocol for robustness of transmission in a live situation. it's likely (according to one interview I watched) that they'll implement an OSC interface module in the software, just like they've implemented a MIDI interface module. > I thought they _did_ have own sounds included in the Eigenharp -giving it stand-alone capability? definitely not. they quite specifically wanted to avoid this route to prevent obsolescence. cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 15:37:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 767D63BE7E; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:37:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HkdVif2Ap3mOrqvLdlE3YowJu5jBP/z0+JBgaqJUYnE=; b=X6wgk/jhvlb06+deHEhBSsn5YU8FRrk2I2hRT0fDrwXrkNOtjpTKuhdqD86HUPAWAp XejnVuBdFBheUrkDfFtkSrQEAHxb5BrcPx3v2mwWZ/dlm3OxAAL4vpP5rFtals4R41oU ErvsVySrUHWpjI5GXP4CFDiV6aVBWGmAxy3P8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=YYR/Qy64K1OS11PsLdKuAad2yyMOW7ponu8km75x0XOsf2uwf26+XYiIXzaDUFNzZq 3aHca8tdpr17Re5XXxdF0BDTlgvcBPCrQIkZ/K3932SW6D4Gdp9eLfbhVhYbxoyCGLdc 433MVbCmfHqfpgLov+GCnvA1gHck79gXsWpHs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:37:55 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 59f0069cbc1c2374 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Tujiko Noriko's "U" From: Os To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:37:58 +0000 (UTC) no obvious looping, but this is one of the most striking and hauntingly beautiful albums I've heard in a while. http://www.emusic.com/album/Tujiko-Noriko-U-MP3-Download/11291677.html cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 15:57:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09ED63BE7E; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:56:59 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Stylophone BeatBox... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Just caught wind of this earlier today. =46or those of you who are fans of quirky sound=20 generators and/or tiny percussion instruments, it=20 looks like we're approaching the imminent release=20 of the Stylophone BeatBox (=20 http://www.stylophonica.com./index.php/the-news ). =46rom their webpage: "After the success of the S1 [Stylophone] became=20 apparent, Dubreq were asked directly if we could=20 come up with some ideas for 'follow-on' products=20 for the Stylophone brand, the BeatBox was the=20 obvious first choice.... The BeatBox features three all new voices, an=20 electronic drum kit with useful percussion=20 sounds, a human beat-box voice... and finally a=20 'bass' voice which give a bass melody option to=20 allow you to play a bass line (or set up a=20 repeating bass loop) to accompany another=20 instrument" Here's a video Brett Domino performing a demo=20 using two Stylophone Beatboxes:=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhELTtsBRie4 And, it looks like it's got rudimentary looping=20 capability, so you can do percussion/bassline=20 overdubs(!). As far as I can tell, it looks like it might be a=20 nice percussion complement to any hardware Looper=20 who's trying to keep their setup small and light.=20 Cheap too, with a MSRP to be set at =A319.99. --m. -- _____ "beyond this window, night is shuddering and the earth grinds to a halt beyond this window, something unknown is watching you and me...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 16:03:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 570CD3BE86; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hpElW19t2P+6ZoJxcKZbz84iPvIGrdfA3dYk5FGP1LQ=; b=XEqCdwV0ZXKnqXhRublSAZIlIOgPPeD+jnYsbk7t3hqRqDizenaN41rX4QDig7JlnM 0Jzgoj5nt2X2TF+YEZZhjr7lk9L8FVi88jRbKUDU2oVOLvLroFE8ydHl0rE28GKambw6 sHBkZmEWRNq/fhPVODr4zZI4zKsCPs2LMzO+8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ozoY2UAj20YcAtGS/u2pObBmUZ9mNUWXzH1J7WvbYEux0leq7oGgtxEoLzXGJaMlb9 tnbPcDWytxO1AwG+RvsGzb5A6jjfsxKwD9//Tsu9D8RIAGiCbOIXErMp1gj4EWEE8vKr pRfrlF7WkSz3cldx/qKeqmkuOBf8fD3CfO0BQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:56:22 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911040756v6e1efbe8ufc3d4987430a692f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:03:48 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Os wrote: > Let me know if anyone has any questions you'd like me to ask. At second thought I think this would be the most interesting question: It would be great if there will be someone at the Eigenharp Roadshow that has practiced playing the instrument with a twelve tone scale setting, as opposed to the "pre fixed" scales demonstrated in the videos. Maybe someone has explored alternative chromatic fingerings as a tool to play different "harmonic key scales with instant out-of-key-note access"? If you could ask this person what "the feel is" to play it that way? How smoothly can one run through harmonic melodies according to a scale and throw in out-of-key notes spontaneously? I mean, on a guitar this is very smooth because (harmonic) keys can be viewed as patterns on the neck while you would still have instant access to any note outside the actual key's pattern, on a piano it is sort of "middle ground" because of white and black keys differing in weight and positioning while on a clarinet each (harmonic) key needs learning a new pattern. I would guess the Eigenharp can be used similar to an EWI in this regard: learning to play scales within a 12 note chromatic fingering pattern and eventually simply transpose the pitch of the entire instrument? And also: learning many alternative chromatic fingerings that can all be used as the basis to play scales for different keys so you can then chose your fingering pattern depending on what melodies you intend to play and simply hit the correct sounding key by transposing the entire instrument's pitch accordingly. Has someone explored this on the Eigenharp? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 16:39:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6874B3BE82; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AF1AE6F.6080607@het.it> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:40:15 +0100 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Stylophone BeatBox... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------080803090303020704060305" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:39:58 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080803090303020704060305 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yess! very interesting i want one.. or two!
where can i buy it? (on the web)

Max Liver

Mech ha scritto:
Just caught wind of this earlier today.

For those of you who are fans of quirky sound generators and/or tiny percussion instruments, it looks like we're approaching the imminent release of the Stylophone BeatBox ( http://www.stylophonica.com./index.php/the-news ).

>From their webpage:

"After the success of the S1 [Stylophone] became apparent, Dubreq were asked directly if we could come up with some ideas for 'follow-on' products for the Stylophone brand, the BeatBox was the obvious first choice....

The BeatBox features three all new voices, an electronic drum kit with useful percussion sounds, a human beat-box voice... and finally a 'bass' voice which give a bass melody option to allow you to play a bass line (or set up a repeating bass loop) to accompany another instrument"

Here's a video Brett Domino performing a demo using two Stylophone Beatboxes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hELTtsBRie4

And, it looks like it's got rudimentary looping capability, so you can do percussion/bassline overdubs(!).

As far as I can tell, it looks like it might be a nice percussion complement to any hardware Looper who's trying to keep their setup small and light. Cheap too, with a MSRP to be set at £19.99.

    --m.


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luq8b6zZL//pf/v6v//83//+//8A8U/gQIIFDR5EmFDhQoYJAwIAOw== --------------080803090303020704060305-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 16:49:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A16BB3BE85; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: eigenharp roadshow Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:49:23 +0100 Message-ID: <006e01ca5d6e$c3475c60$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acpdbos74gEx8pE8SpOD2PUvI7SNDgAACb0g In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.1.53; VDF: 7.1.6.187) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:49:29 +0000 (UTC) > Let me know if anyone has any questions you'd like me to ask. Windows? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 16:52:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E9053BE84; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AF1B145.3060900@het.it> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:52:21 +0100 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Stylophone BeatBox... References: <4AF1AE6F.6080607@het.it> In-Reply-To: <4AF1AE6F.6080607@het.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:52:02 +0000 (UTC) I bought it here: price 25 $ https://100milligrams.com/index.php i hope! Max Liver > Yess! very interesting i want one.. or two! > where can i buy it? (on the web) > > Max Liver > > Mech ha scritto: >> Just caught wind of this earlier today. >> >> For those of you who are fans of quirky sound generators and/or tiny >> percussion instruments, it looks like we're approaching the imminent >> release of the Stylophone BeatBox ( >> http://www.stylophonica.com./index.php/the-news ). >> >> >From their webpage: >> >> "After the success of the S1 [Stylophone] became apparent, Dubreq >> were asked directly if we could come up with some ideas for >> 'follow-on' products for the Stylophone brand, the BeatBox was the >> obvious first choice.... >> >> The BeatBox features three all new voices, an electronic drum kit >> with useful percussion sounds, a human beat-box voice... and finally >> a 'bass' voice which give a bass melody option to allow you to play a >> bass line (or set up a repeating bass loop) to accompany another >> instrument" >> >> Here's a video Brett Domino performing a demo using two Stylophone >> Beatboxes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hELTtsBRie4 >> >> And, it looks like it's got rudimentary looping capability, so you >> can do percussion/bassline overdubs(!). >> >> As far as I can tell, it looks like it might be a nice percussion >> complement to any hardware Looper who's trying to keep their setup >> small and light. Cheap too, with a MSRP to be set at £19.99. >> >> --m. > > > -- > -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 16:57:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBF503BE92; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GRvF6URodH0Ja5TCX/8MyULcNF3qTRj9EchUElTCcuI=; b=Ck6VQtzE7sEkhmHW0C3tHmAg7v3UKu0v4vUw0+1QZRL9+F8//LORnadtElxuCU+4jS SOqQO7400r+i3suQOkgYg0PBvmUC3yhbHkxZ3YANB6NVgTTBD6QXddxljo3YkvIfFnOi 74sFNhpKIIvDd84B6fkWAuxymovsJKz0IRJyo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DGGYKPYy7m2l9/j5iPktAGiTf67A1z+ICbn/IBgMaDlZVCSiNYwFIBJpTreGJ1qQ5R DtZ3CEZZBCKoVnj5wJ5rUPcoBt6Vr10tOTK6frW20SzDYLfzrOEMKLogqNwelDPJVmrW rkxlWciHbx1cIWYwj26l+t0/l91Y5Fb17ifl4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <006e01ca5d6e$c3475c60$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <006e01ca5d6e$c3475c60$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:57:22 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911040857y5157f755x78ddfa7da2cbb703@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:57:28 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > > Windows? It was said in one of the interviews that Windows support is in the pipeline. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 17:05:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 929C43BE89; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:05:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=f79JdiaH0WW7B4IUXBTdnPkDrVQ559uR4AXmjMtM088=; b=gBFJtokAxzLgXoER6bjsireVtkMYWprGJzf9/U6S0lD/51W8DHU2yzucIIA+iRRY6Y gsrOPQRqDTWfmFrT+/XKIqb2axYOjFFMa0gUH5d1UqpcBFYnqxpCq/MQV6hd+jC/5r7p ztyskEw2/Lpm7WapRuv3XTqEaCXFKi7G6XleA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=lk4j0kg7/1fZb5sUMpZKcnzX9X4QGcVxPYKmLbZQO3TSuzLjSZn5O4nILbrrx+Y08w QsWSGQJo3BNPHIM75NbWRxlGSq1oha0G7Ln+kGKA7mk+FoOIRDbMrTySncMHa028kj53 1x2panUhtej7sw3aR4BBPbn6uV4I1rEIPo7cM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911040857y5157f755x78ddfa7da2cbb703@mail.gmail.com> References: <006e01ca5d6e$c3475c60$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <66f9cc1e0911040857y5157f755x78ddfa7da2cbb703@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:05:15 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8286e2bfe03b4eae Message-ID: Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:05:19 +0000 (UTC) I seem to be giving this link a lot today :) http://www.eigenlabs.com/software/ "Windows software support expected January 2010." os. 2009/11/4 Per Boysen : > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Michael Peters wrote: >> >> Windows? > > It was said in one of the interviews that Windows support is in the pipeline. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 17:43:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8C183BE82; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xLi8LwM3tjjyvchI4X5zBj2cXtujA0A50QlEpxDu5j0=; b=kE7uXnORJ2S+mfHfSpDMVpZIDf0r6CjoK4LuwMM1Ti5o1hDoEdqAT/o9uwEiBXRetL xKB19jHRfcOhqOqEsxtudTIR2rLa5nFPByxMupVw7P0PuRPWtdlTRWE6qD2G5O7Fh41P YnnEwTqoafVFP5S8d3sjzqhCgqHexmDTuZ3x8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=A3UgPo+Nejf0u4yUUFYfixAxbZgvEh0P81cHzAwlP+WvIO4/hHJwF5llLgL5ZBhBGe XVjlKWCxqjkp3jNVJfQbvdf0I6HKMHzuL+5qKpJNg7M89FoIejajzRfsuMYiiNChTKUn Poj/eXrlolpyb1RAnAeBxhvy5Vwqfsx8kn+78= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:43:38 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Tujiko Noriko's "U" From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd22b0c953e8804778f2619 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:43:39 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd22b0c953e8804778f2619 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 She's one of my favorites too. "From Tokyo to Naiagara" is also a great album. -- Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Os wrote: > no obvious looping, but this is one of the most striking and > hauntingly beautiful albums I've heard in a while. > > http://www.emusic.com/album/Tujiko-Noriko-U-MP3-Download/11291677.html > > > cheers, > os. > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://twitter.com/expertsleepers > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > --000e0cd22b0c953e8804778f2619 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable She's one of my favorites too. "From Tokyo to Naiagara" is al= so a great album.


--
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Os <os@collective.co.uk= > wrote:
no obvious looping, but this is one of the most striking and
hauntingly beautiful albums I've heard in a while.

http://www.emusic.com/album/Tujiko-Noriko-U-MP3-D= ownload/11291677.html


cheers,
os.

--
os@collective.co.uk
http://twit= ter.com/expertsleepers
http://www.da= rkroomtheband.net/
http://www.= expert-sleepers.co.uk/




--000e0cd22b0c953e8804778f2619-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 18:11:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CAA73BE80; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:11:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:11:33 -0600 Subject: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Thread-Topic: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Thread-Index: Acpdej2fjj88ps9xR92sXov+lor3JQ== Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586@barq.sailpoint.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586barqsailpoint_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:11:37 +0000 (UTC) --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586barqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just received a Novation Launchpad and thought some of you might be interested in some technical details. It works fine with Live, I won't go into detail on that since I'm more interested in using it with other applications, but if I were a heavy Live user I would definitely get one. It speaks normal MIDI so with some work it can be used with other applications. If you have Novation's Automap utility you can do some basic mapping of pads to plugin parameters but to get the most out of it you will need to write code or Max/MSP patches to control it. It's about 10 inches square and 1/2 inch thick. Build quality is okay, the case is plastic but it feels solid enough. If you dropped it it would probably survive. It has to sit on a table, there is no stand socket on the bottom. The pads are smaller than on most drum pad controllers like the Trigger Finger, less than an inch square. They are not velocity sensitive which makes this of limited use as a drum controller. Pressing a pad produces a soft "click" that you can feel but not hear. This let's you know the button has been engaged but I found it slightly annoying. The pictures and most of the videos make it look like the default state of the buttons are bright white but they're not. When a button is off, it has a slightly translucent dull grey color which is not that bad but not nearly as pretty as it looks in pictures. Under each pad are two LEDs one green and one red. These can be set to one of three shades (low, medium, and high) and combined to produce shades of yellow and orange. They don't do white. In theory you have 16 shades available for each button (4 states squared). In practice many of the shades that combine red and green are so slightly different that they can't be used as static indicators. You can use them to show "movement" by cycling through the shades, you'll see the difference when they change. But for buttons that just glow one color it's hard to tell the difference between "Red Low + Green Low" and "Red Low + Green Medium". Also there is variance in the brightness of the leds from pad to pad so when combining them to make yellow it looks quite "splotchy", some are very yellow and others look like pale green. So in practice I found around 6 or 7 really distinct shades that could be used as static indicators. The rest could be used to make pulsating lightshows like the Kaoss pad. Overall I was a bit disappointed in the colors, it is not as pretty as the videos or the picture on the box, but hey the price is still reasonable. It is not programmable. It only sends a fixed set of MIDI notes for each pad and CC's for the buttons along the top. All are on channel 1 and this cannot be changed. So if you want to combine this with MIDI from another source, say an FCB1010, you'll have to reprogram the FCB to send on a different channel, or do channel mapping in software. The videos make it look like it has "pages" for example in Mixer mode there is a page for volume control, one for pan, etc. This is all done in Live. The Launchpad itself doesn't change what notes the pads send when you select page buttons, the application has to watch for the page buttons and dynamically change note mappings to do different things. For example, in the demo for controlling track levels, each column of pads acts like a "fader". The pads light up from the bottom to whatever pad you press, press the top pad and the fader is all the way up, press a pad in the center and the fader is around halfway up, etc. The hardware is not magically converting this into CC7 for the application, it's just sending notes and it is up to the application to respond to them and turn the other lights in the column on or off. This is why with Automap you can't do much with this besides trigger things. There are no knobs and the virtual faders are a trick supported only by Live. So in summary, if you're a Max hacker or write your own applications, it is possible to do everything Live does and more but it will take some work. This will work well for controlling Mobius since the architecture is fairly close to Live. But the fun part will be making pulsating light shows :) Jeff --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586barqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I just received a Novation Launchpad and thought some = of you might be

interested in some technical details.

 

It works fine with Live, I won't go into detail on tha= t since I'm more

interested in using it with other applications, but if= I were a heavy

Live user I would definitely get one.

 

It speaks normal MIDI so with some work it can be used= with other

applications.  If you have Novation's Automap uti= lity you can do some

basic mapping of pads to plugin parameters but to get = the most out of

it you will need to write code or Max/MSP patches to c= ontrol it.

 

It's about 10 inches square and 1/2 inch thick.  = Build quality is

okay, the case is plastic but it feels solid enough.&n= bsp; If you dropped

it it would probably survive.  It has to sit on a table, there is no

stand socket on the bottom.

 

The pads are smaller than on most drum pad controllers= like the

Trigger Finger, less than an inch square.  They a= re not velocity

sensitive which makes this of limited use as a drum controller.

Pressing a pad produces a soft "click" that = you can feel but not hear.

This let's you know the button has been engaged but I = found it

slightly annoying.

 

The pictures and most of the videos make it look like = the default

state of the buttons are bright white but they're not.=   When a button

is off, it has a slightly translucent dull grey color = which is not

that bad but not nearly as pretty as it looks in pictures.  Under each

pad are two LEDs one green and one red.  These ca= n be set to one of

three shades (low, medium, and high) and combined to p= roduce shades of

yellow and orange.  They don't do white.

 

In theory you have 16 shades available for each button= (4 states

squared).  In practice many of the shades that co= mbine red and green

are so slightly different that they can't be used as s= tatic

indicators.  You can use them to show "movement" by cycling through

the shades, you'll see the difference when they change.  But for

buttons that just glow one color it's hard to tell the difference

between "Red Low + Green Low" and "Red = Low + Green Medium".  Also

there is variance in the brightness of the leds from p= ad to pad so

when combining them to make yellow it looks quite "splotchy", some are

very yellow and others look like pale green.

 

So in practice I found around 6 or 7 really distinct s= hades that could

be used as static indicators.  The rest could be = used to make

pulsating lightshows like the Kaoss pad.  Overall= I was a bit

disappointed in the colors, it is not as pretty as the videos or the

picture on the box, but hey the price is still reasona= ble.

 

It is not programmable.  It only sends a fixed se= t of MIDI notes for

each pad and CC's for the buttons along the top. = All are on channel 1

and this cannot be changed.  So if you want to co= mbine this with MIDI

from another source, say an FCB1010, you'll have to reprogram the FCB

to send on a different channel, or do channel mapping = in software.

 

The videos make it look like it has "pages" = for example in Mixer mode

there is a page for volume control, one for pan, etc.&= nbsp; This is all

done in Live.  The Launchpad itself doesn't chang= e what notes the pads

send when you select page buttons, the application has= to watch for

the page buttons and dynamically change note mappings = to do different

things.

 

For example, in the demo for controlling track levels,= each column of

pads acts like a "fader".  The pads lig= ht up from the bottom to

whatever pad you press, press the top pad and the fade= r is all the way

up, press a pad in the center and the fader is around halfway up, etc.

The hardware is not magically converting this into CC7= for the

application, it's just sending notes and it is up to t= he application

to respond to them and turn the other lights in the co= lumn on or

off.  This is why with Automap you can't do much = with this besides

trigger things.  There are no knobs and the virtu= al faders are a

trick supported only by Live.

 

So in summary, if you're a Max hacker or write your ow= n applications,

it is possible to do everything Live does and more but= it will take

some work.   This will work well for control= ling Mobius since

the architecture is fairly close to Live.  But th= e fun part

will be making pulsating light shows :)

 

Jeff

 

--_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586barqsailpoint_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 18:29:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F36B3BE78; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jFzLSDBjMeKfnh8LzFe4sY7phoTqKLMCcdEX2l1UjlQ=; b=J1JWhsAuSqEWc0avJO7Gkj8lOXpg6KTmZALJWcyFjR7nms5nW7qOBz4krF31+s3uWh BK6KYeoL/sVlkgKfr3OjnOsU/0FvOYH63XcLu8GzkyvvSHQXsQfTnA0IIYPHkYb6I7py nTq2XH9xEVYQ0fF1rpQVZjxLIjGHmTJfO9iG4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Ov6gdx6Pn6KcFrs2xQ0iCab3IZgwuS+zV/c/YC7dcyKTQ0cBML36+WIaU1opPf/OKy tl8++8kXcaD7I/THDxPjdezoHjJ3nTGiastWIfWdRxEuwIl6u/4sSFPNy2ZlSw3iok6D aZve+6xEgevEpTAXTOkTAgUPrfroDIx0RGlDk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:29:11 -0500 Message-ID: <2fb9e4730911041029w24e2414ve7d02f602e176919@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: Looping show on November 20th From: Clint Allen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:29:13 +0000 (UTC) I will be performing a solo electronics/looping show (as The Dark Halo Project) on Friday, November 20th at Lisa's Oak Street Lounge in Louisville, KY as part of a larger show. I will be using Ableton Live 8 and Reason 4 for the first time in a live setting, along with a Korg MicroX, Roland XP-80, two DR-770's, and two Gibson Echoplex units as well as Chapman Stick and fretless bass. Needless to say I will be practicing this setup for the next two weeks and trying to figure out the best backup plan if the laptop crashes. Wish me luck! I believe my set will start somewhere between 10:00 and 10:30pm and lasts about 30 minutes. I'll be posting more information on Facebook and by request in the next few days. Stop by if you are in the area. Lisa's Oak Street Lounge 1004 E Oak St, Louisville, KY=E2=80=8E (502) 637-9315=E2=80=8E Thanks, Clint Clint E. Allen * Technology Consultant * Sound Engineering From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 18:30:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA0233BE7C; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ATC45YbN8qqhMPH6P7PH4Pl9/TUPI40VUgmIH6y207w=; b=E1sLWtFyZg3n6cceAwgGBDSCISAKLZ+oFMb85hQtVEn245S2P/tRI6DtJVfCU5thlB xZYN4qYm5lwHYCSf52C5fmQJuRK6Mi02o5VqLImRfbP4SinNDYvekyGPXIvTZcOhBUEK Vjqbmk79KZOVQJN6vyhKZlRRYQvXynWHETNWQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YvWLhwgH8OgiJjCPPe+dVRr5GBJQ+sZa7ajV75Bu1er93fWF3RIrZuOZhvbQRSDN2b UFKdvKt9+kfIXgV1G6d26r5tPhEKIOD5+4IZRBmbq4gNWD1m0B617gEbBLX/Y1PzszBw CYBZ1yxCQrQKy8lTvx+RT0gO+2e9EHD5rh1aw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:30:25 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911041030h348b6f4eo6c1261f24b0e1488@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:30:25 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > Novation Launchpad Thank you for the excellent review! Are you sure Max patching or programming is needed to get into deep control mode with this pad, just because the pads events to send are fixed? Let's assume I use it to control Mobius - can't I simply use the eight page buttons to swap MIDI Configuration in Mobius and then send the same old MIDI events to call up a set of 64 new commands? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 18:42:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E17503BE7E; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:42:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:42:36 -0600 Subject: RE: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Thread-Topic: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? 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That seems to end up in a retail price just below =80250, which puts it in the same ballpark as e.g. the DD20, the RC20XL and the SMM w/Hazari. (For you US people: up to now, the DL4 was considerably more expensive than those in Europe.) So all you Europeans: if you don't have one already, perhaps now it's time to get a great delay modeler with a nice looper thrown in! Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 19:53:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A80D23BE7E; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=X07K7pnfqtv8lbXSdW3JAGLArR9t8gzaCqlIVv5Imjs=; b=in0L5IY/3AEArAvXM68MrWvJTcgaqrqaSXwtfl/5WcgqE2X2yKHLg68sitiU020H+g 3I75mthVEUVJxFZb9qEdDTeDz8g3dC85HBpVCjFmRdNTxy9WnpgZIunqmXcceSk7rxld sz+E4GsY3DlGK8o0FSpNK+c1eV67wxNhGuaNI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VFp2LVKV/1RV8JM8x8Mxr5JrB1eq3bm8aFsOxpiN42QRoJNlSp/oxPY/B0peDOrrz8 YvN8HAMPLh16Agu/wXzYZn4P1pJCzvP/tNxVXer6r+GFZWC+nK9m0t/Gk7y49p4QyQaA i0ObMFNW6rwEhIC6V1qSGmitIkDYQRg2nG5Xk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:53:41 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0911041153j67a7d1fcu9a0ad0a4eacd6e1a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-z0VbC.A.pvE.Gvd8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Jeff, That's really interesting. Have you used an Akai APC40? Do you know if it addresses any of the Launchpad's limitations or if it has different ones. They seem similar just because of that grid of lit buttons that looks like the Session view in ableton. On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Jeff Larson wr= ote: > I just received a Novation Launchpad and thought some of you might be > > interested in some technical details. > > > > It works fine with Live, I won't go into detail on that since I'm more > > interested in using it with other applications, but if I were a heavy > > Live user I would definitely get one. > > > > It speaks normal MIDI so with some work it can be used with other > > applications.=A0 If you have Novation's Automap utility you can do some > > basic mapping of pads to plugin parameters but to get the most out of > > it you will need to write code or Max/MSP patches to control it. > > > > It's about 10 inches square and 1/2 inch thick.=A0 Build quality is > > okay, the case is plastic but it feels solid enough.=A0 If you dropped > > it it would probably survive.=A0 It has to sit on a table, there is no > > stand socket on the bottom. > > > > The pads are smaller than on most drum pad controllers like the > > Trigger Finger, less than an inch square.=A0 They are not velocity > > sensitive which makes this of limited use as a drum controller. > > Pressing a pad produces a soft "click" that you can feel but not hear. > > This let's you know the button has been engaged but I found it > > slightly annoying. > > > > The pictures and most of the videos make it look like the default > > state of the buttons are bright white but they're not.=A0 When a button > > is off, it has a slightly translucent dull grey color which is not > > that bad but not nearly as pretty as it looks in pictures.=A0 Under each > > pad are two LEDs one green and one red.=A0 These can be set to one of > > three shades (low, medium, and high) and combined to produce shades of > > yellow and orange.=A0 They don't do white. > > > > In theory you have 16 shades available for each button (4 states > > squared).=A0 In practice many of the shades that combine red and green > > are so slightly different that they can't be used as static > > indicators.=A0 You can use them to show "movement" by cycling through > > the shades, you'll see the difference when they change.=A0 But for > > buttons that just glow one color it's hard to tell the difference > > between "Red Low + Green Low" and "Red Low + Green Medium".=A0 Also > > there is variance in the brightness of the leds from pad to pad so > > when combining them to make yellow it looks quite "splotchy", some are > > very yellow and others look like pale green. > > > > So in practice I found around 6 or 7 really distinct shades that could > > be used as static indicators.=A0 The rest could be used to make > > pulsating lightshows like the Kaoss pad.=A0 Overall I was a bit > > disappointed in the colors, it is not as pretty as the videos or the > > picture on the box, but hey the price is still reasonable. > > > > It is not programmable.=A0 It only sends a fixed set of MIDI notes for > > each pad and CC's for the buttons along the top.=A0 All are on channel 1 > > and this cannot be changed.=A0 So if you want to combine this with MIDI > > from another source, say an FCB1010, you'll have to reprogram the FCB > > to send on a different channel, or do channel mapping in software. > > > > The videos make it look like it has "pages" for example in Mixer mode > > there is a page for volume control, one for pan, etc.=A0 This is all > > done in Live.=A0 The Launchpad itself doesn't change what notes the pads > > send when you select page buttons, the application has to watch for > > the page buttons and dynamically change note mappings to do different > > things. > > > > For example, in the demo for controlling track levels, each column of > > pads acts like a "fader".=A0 The pads light up from the bottom to > > whatever pad you press, press the top pad and the fader is all the way > > up, press a pad in the center and the fader is around halfway up, etc. > > The hardware is not magically converting this into CC7 for the > > application, it's just sending notes and it is up to the application > > to respond to them and turn the other lights in the column on or > > off.=A0 This is why with Automap you can't do much with this besides > > trigger things.=A0 There are no knobs and the virtual faders are a > > trick supported only by Live. > > > > So in summary, if you're a Max hacker or write your own applications, > > it is possible to do everything Live does and more but it will take > > some work.=A0=A0 This will work well for controlling Mobius since > > the architecture is fairly close to Live.=A0 But the fun part > > will be making pulsating light shows :) > > > > Jeff > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 20:33:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 969D33BE78; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vopYV6kLsoqELSmk1GQqVsxPs0/uo+y0FN/b1fDRdss=; b=VSzAUgFKtk2KQflwQxRM9pbt3j9cA6ulxAYFe1KZwphOyQSulG+iDjOTld/OIS6MR2 c7ySnBwoDw6qxeptjdAkeJUHLnFHWph1bknKu9Lofx4Xb3OzOEkh+klIu6sTNgeRFV40 GpN3M7wl16MlV8kHAa7Py3xA2F83uI1gsd4Vc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=qQDXrcRFyXeK2b2ul4VcCU+CSMpXdueyyAOAfwK8HOQpXBeVh4NUTgzNgO3F6v8g1a y+noG9SPeHxmOz8RmeARRol4dhISMTKDpkqjKGSB3hmeIGcNFu5miBNIK7iDCHLQrA0h se/V0URmrrVugHX8gkyHRwy6mcRzlU9NlH/js= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:33:28 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c7bcd8b650d083b3 Message-ID: <101191640911041233y7762ca67s930cbd4fe207a0a2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:33:34 +0000 (UTC) so, presumably every performer at y2k9 knows which ustream video, if any, they are on. how about posting that info here? I'd like to see the sets that I missed, but wading through all the clips is a problem... also, is there any way to download a clip? Some of the links on the "show page" seem to be not loading. I'm wondering how long ustream will keep them up there (or exist, for that matter) - I'd like to obtain an archival copy of my set. here's the link to the clip I'm in - I'm about 6 minutes in: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2375291 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 20:52:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E28323BE77; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <101191640911041233y7762ca67s930cbd4fe207a0a2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:52:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:52:24 +0000 (UTC) I have all of the original video directly from the camera from Saturday night after dinner and all of Sunday. Unfortunately, I don't have the original video from Saturday during the day. I have not had a opportunity to go through the original video and chop it up. If somebody wants to volunteer to do that, I'd be happy to convert the video to MPEG and send it to you. Probably the best thing to do is put the MPEG files on DVD and mail them because that many hours of video will be rather large. --- Bob Amstadt Looperlative Audio Products (408) 921-LOOP > also, is there any way to download a clip? Some of the links on the > "show page" seem to be not loading. I'm wondering how long ustream > will keep them up there (or exist, for that matter) - I'd like to > obtain an archival copy of my set. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 21:28:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B45F23BE78; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257370124; bh=4PBabhXrP+YVUo3mDFIFrrveI0ISn1GT+B6qhcdGW/A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DxxHWJ7Vi+cpGR8hApFjSloqe10XxtN3KovKR754Ile/lyrp1Fa1knkS9+fE97oG5doIhlXD41XGcHWg+YjyPP8jowgt5od/Fs+7iYka4mkejHM5R5hqzAE1ulsKq/0WvDz7wRRUPk9z/nuVIk2kjxWsi8s/G60rAWIqep9/ILo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vAf3dAjMnntG4b3Y7lJvetsS0QFgNGJ9d/zg4fclMyVyyuXESRqf2EZV8cF40HRjEB9Z21gW3+r7/545lXSZXEOIgvFONctBqVgSuAosXhDtwOBprwAlbCOpZcleP4Ayv0UUnK9ssyeSAHjiZsPJIyB41Tpq6/uzDJXIXcOjwOA=; Message-ID: <176351.49290.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: daarlRQVM1lSf6BZ.PiuF8w7SW2yDGfcKkoVjwSiYpxiWxh7Pp3uDnc4KW39q4VZNBgKkT3tE5B64eTEu_s3AzH.RU.0d1eJEckF4_XvRYBvewXIHPuLDBelcLlPgH7HzNnOk7WN7idlQcVOtsEdcO8yHb9xcMxDRMsLwcWNJBo3XMfp5scrXwXI2LCWrCuacev1GLnRpXArZQOthD0LundwYv1zkBzJqYy4EswZWlTqDGGTfTyjp7TRWE5SC3K4b_sSZ_Bybob5o.zOmFTotX4jvw1P7GGQXErnWvi6HMyJgT7SH4BA4N.K79KHgdWFYtHPrnTkyCACsyRQU0brAh2hMoXKcoeV.nE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:28:44 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: Line6 Europe reduces price for DL4 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0911041138k64ee9691p2fb7a0c8edf01d19@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:28:45 +0000 (UTC) could that also be a sign of cease of production? i remember this was the c= ase with the EDP i bought back then a brand new one at Musicians friend for= 399.00dlls shortly after that they were gone forever!=0Athe m9 is nice but= there is something i still like about the DL4 maybe that green cadillac lo= ok=0Acheers=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Rainer Straschill <= moinsound@googlemail.com> schrieb am Mi, 4.11.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Rainer Stra= schill =0A> Betreff: Line6 Europe reduces price f= or DL4=0A> An: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Mittwoch, 4. = November 2009, 11:38=0A> Line6 Europe announced in their=0A> newsletter a p= rice reduction of 20% on the DL4.=0A> =0A> That seems to end up in a retail= price just below=C2=A0=0A> =E2=82=AC250, which puts it=0A> in the same bal= lpark as e.g. the DD20, the RC20XL and the=0A> SMM=0A> w/Hazari.=0A> =0A> (= For you US people: up to now, the DL4 was considerably=0A> more expensive= =0A> than those in Europe.)=0A> =0A> So all you Europeans: if you don't hav= e one already,=0A> perhaps now it's=0A> time to get a great delay modeler w= ith a nice looper thrown=0A> in!=0A> =0A> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Rainer=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 21:35:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A474C3BE7F; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:35:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:35:48 -0600 Subject: RE: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Thread-Topic: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Thread-Index: AcpdiIc7mAY0UEOFTK+m6arSiNUWbgACv05A Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A617@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586@barq.sailpoint.com> <588ce11d0911041153j67a7d1fcu9a0ad0a4eacd6e1a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0911041153j67a7d1fcu9a0ad0a4eacd6e1a@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <_RWyUB.A.pbC.3Of8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:35:51 +0000 (UTC) [Art] > Have you used an Akai APC40? Do you know if it addresses any of the > Launchpad's limitations or if it has different ones.=20 I haven't looked at it closely, and there isn't much on the web. The FAQ says it sends out normal MIDI messages over USB and is=20 non-programmable like the Launchpad. =20 The clip buttons look about the same, though I see some are blue so they may have more LEDs under them. I'm certain it has a similar MIDI note or CC protocol the application has to send to make the pads turn on. The knobs and faders make this a better all-around controller, of course it's twice the price of the Launchpad. If I didn't already have several fader/knob controllers I would have considered this. For Mobius the knobs and faders should work now. Making the pads light up would require special support. $400 is a little pricey for something I don't really need. Of course if someone were=20 to buy me one, APC40 support goes to the top of the=20 development list :-) Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 21:47:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 657C03BE79; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:47:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JXEDyi2ogKIAFgu2quHuINTUNFX/GiTnIevEnOxxMVM=; b=MEYnyirYY3P9fk/ntc1fakLTJth/pHwBGiaJtZtR+h0lUTobpyU5MMcUMzMkeTTNMy 9f+AKgVLpW57JwG1ut07pK3wIAYkDNGxQxrRTxS40ZwDpfRtbsxwaYVZrIyRzK3ptx1o 4e/Q8LT0oM9hLr2UomsNnIkK4FrWypnTJBS6A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=D/rAjzfJFUganz/AkgDloYkxQDhxuBN33equ139BEPSIuejBUSvNYe9NtdDeNa8IRO /oDPU0R4IPwxUlEVQyl4HW7ew5Rq0NMu6GdOQ8KKzlvhJq1Xpk4DaiycHvSSYln6lptC e2o8PksuyDu4Km790OIDDnaMHVd3uVlmmHGhQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> References: <101191640911041233y7762ca67s930cbd4fe207a0a2@mail.gmail.com> <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:47:35 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 537d837c0f299f12 Message-ID: <101191640911041347w7c647b2fmbbae7e9dc8695821@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0aodkC.A.7CD.Haf8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:47:52 +0000 (UTC) would i be able to do that with iMovie on the mac? i haven't done much with it, but i'd be willing to do the chop-up. On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: > I have all of the original video directly from the camera from Saturday > night after dinner and all of Sunday. =A0Unfortunately, I don't have the > original video from Saturday during the day. =A0I have not had a opportun= ity > to go through the original video and chop it up. =A0If somebody wants to > volunteer to do that, I'd be happy to convert the video to MPEG and send = it > to you. =A0Probably the best thing to do is put the MPEG files on DVD and= mail > them because that many hours of video will be rather large. > > --- > Bob Amstadt > Looperlative Audio Products > (408) 921-LOOP > >> also, is there any way to download a clip? Some of the links on the >> "show page" seem to be not loading. I'm wondering how long ustream >> will keep them up there (or exist, for that matter) - I'd like to >> obtain an archival copy of my set. > > --=20 Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 21:54:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 399293BE77; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <101191640911041233y7762ca67s930cbd4fe207a0a2@mail.gmail.com> <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> <101191640911041347w7c647b2fmbbae7e9dc8695821@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:53:53 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <6jmv2C.A.OaD.8ff8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Warren, I don't know anything about iMovie, but I'd be happy to send you the files if you would like to give it a try. --- Bob Amstadt Looperlative Audio Products (408) 921-LOOP From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 00:12:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1543D3BE78; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:12:00 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Max For Live.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Public BetaTest Program for Max For Live has been announced: http://www.ableton.com/maxforlive/beta Production release is scheduled for a November 23 rollout. --m. -- _____ "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of murder... later" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 00:18:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9962C3BE79; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:18:43 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: RE: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:18:49 +0000 (UTC) At 12:42 PM -0600 11/4/09, Jeff Larson wrote: > > Are you sure Max patching or programming is needed to get into deep >> control mode with this pad, just because the pads events to send >> are fixed? > >It would depend the application you're controlling. In your example, >yes you could use the top 8 buttons to select different Mobius MIDI >configurations that remap the grid buttons to do different things. You may also find some interesting and helpful resources on programming the Launchpad in this article from CDMu: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/11/02/novation-releases-all-midi-details-for-launchpad/ It outlines the MIDI spec for exactly what the Launchpad is sending. There's also a link to a Monome emulator (the Nonome) that has already been ported to work with the Launchpad. --m. -- _____ "beyond this window, night is shuddering and the earth grinds to a halt beyond this window, something unknown is watching you and me...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 00:23:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2500C3BE77; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 391 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:23:06 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A5A1@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586@barq.sailpoint.com> <66f9cc1e0911041030h348b6f4eo6c1261f24b0e1488@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A5A1@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:16:29 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: RE: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:23:07 +0000 (UTC) At 12:42 PM -0600 11/4/09, Jeff Larson wrote: > > Are you sure Max patching or programming is needed to get into deep >> control mode with this pad, just because the pads events to send >> are fixed? > >It would depend the application you're controlling. In your example, >yes you could use the top 8 buttons to select different Mobius MIDI >configurations that remap the grid buttons to do different things. You may also find some interesting and helpful resources on programming the Launchpad in this article from CDMu: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/11/02/novation-releases-all-midi-details-for-launchpad/ It outlines the MIDI spec for exactly what the Launchpad is sending. There's also a link to a Monome emulator (the Nonome) that has already been ported to work with the Launchpad. --m. -- _____ "beyond this window, night is shuddering and the earth grinds to a halt beyond this window, something unknown is watching you and me...." 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Yours faithfully Mr. Don Newman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 00:56:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AAE03BE7E; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JlJT/iIUUyZUUryUAYfhEyxt3aRNfgXio3faTMmilM0=; b=lR0GD8RcnaIMZLOD+0dUWeE0czHqTmtpUoiCPdxbrPtrhRhPJpnkng+9Jrd3fx5ozQ MVRUe/dB/itEAV9BUpH0JTq79AswDsnqiMnVm+IO8SEy7+9MToakCFi/5CNttedYWIlW UFcE3xK+SdH0++N9WNve5x4dzeBN4taydxgOM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZMdjlr8Jxz5UCD5L5FdI/UH3TlZR3nUVTCqfvKoyuxV9/qE9hPMKe9gj36pNzso9mW bCAS51uknc9auPewUnsax8cG5XOIrW/04RX5H3kof4pVAm0kOa9aOY1n7UYgj2MTRhm8 2KBPvpsTuzCqbVi9ViPUtJ8TZrQuXl/+ugiJc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:56:50 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0911041656o427b7ee3xd52e334659ffe7f9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Max For Live.... From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Woohoo! Thanks Mech, I've been waiting for this : ) On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Mech wrote: > Public BetaTest Program for Max For Live has been announced: > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.ableton.com/maxforlive/beta > > Production release is scheduled for a November 23 rollout. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--m. > -- > _____ > "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of murder... > later" > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 01:11:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A1353BE73; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 01:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <1BFB899F-EC9A-443D-BD2A-2A54BE9C5C67@zonemobius.com> From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:11:44 -0600 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 01:11:49 +0000 (UTC) > You may also find some interesting and helpful resources on programming > the Launchpad in this article from CDMu: These are excerpts from the Novation MIDI spec that has been available for awhile here: http://www.novationmusic.com/support/launchpad/ This is one significant difference between the Launchpad and the APC40, Akai has not yet released the details of it's MIDI protocol. People seem to be moaning about Akai not being "open" but it's actually rather trivial to reverse engineer the protocol. It sends and receives MIDI like anything else, all you have to do is put a message monitor between Live and the APC40 and watch what Live sends. If Akai doesn't publish it, someone will. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 02:16:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA25E3BE73; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 02:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CwCMt5nCxxkA:10 a=AhSRf1SojFb3WC9VEHEA:9 a=zsA7lElVKUZ_YD4E4TFZtwtKAAQA:4 Message-Id: <99BB3A4F-B4D0-45D8-B0D7-534A7B9A26BC@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:16:09 -0800 References: <101191640911041233y7762ca67s930cbd4fe207a0a2@mail.gmail.com> <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 02:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Shucks. I guess that means the little bit of my set (in 2 pieces) is just what is up there on Ustream. Oh well. Thanks for doing all that you did Bob. Probably no one would want to see it again anyway. On Nov 4, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: > I have all of the original video directly from the camera from > Saturday night after dinner and all of Sunday. Unfortunately, I > don't have the original video from Saturday during the day. I have > not had a opportunity to go through the original video and chop it > up. If somebody wants to volunteer to do that, I'd be happy to > convert the video to MPEG and send it to you. Probably the best > thing to do is put the MPEG files on DVD and mail them because that > many hours of video will be rather large. > > --- > Bob Amstadt > Looperlative Audio Products > (408) 921-LOOP > >> also, is there any way to download a clip? Some of the links on the >> "show page" seem to be not loading. I'm wondering how long ustream >> will keep them up there (or exist, for that matter) - I'd like to >> obtain an archival copy of my set. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 04:17:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A38A33BE78; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AF251B9.6070906@soundscapes.us> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:16:57 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Rejoined LD After a Short Hiatus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Greetings, I was away at Different Skies. Almost as soon as I returned home, I went to electro-music where I met Kris. It was great to finally meet and have some nice conversations. electro-music is a sensory overload so I was unable to hear Kris play. But I have the feeling that we'll meet again. Now that I'm home from these two festivals, I've rejoined LD. On Thursday 11/5, Steve Jolliffe (ex-Tangerine Dream) will do a live set on Galactic Travels so please do tune in. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 04:18:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 444BF3BE78; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QpBdStC0qtmL4oPm3fRRY8qQPKDZFvPlftnq2QQLLnU=; b=VCrJyVsYyEkrjI7i+5XGEBr5afys5Ee4AVXvBWuKToK83RLlsSksm5gGdjjX7Mj3Jv wV1rSiEMjFY421tb61I7mpyLG/0InJXr2+1vrDWoqKgmr5rDQe2dHHqFAZT+mVoBsP6M /QSs8370HqCyQhSKfcIZvmJIIFCTpFQMWqy4k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RHwNyxaPcxYKqUMfqVq4Hdpsb4J6aN0fUDh2N8JADOfIw/VdoUkUjUe7TNBbQEpQu7 y2Q+n61iQ6XfWt9Zg+Uq45xomL4e7BglQy1O99l99nS70bL3qGT2vNwQIEQkFzixcbf6 z/iUhq4pgvnrls6c9HO3JbA6Bs+hW0wfkqhw0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <99BB3A4F-B4D0-45D8-B0D7-534A7B9A26BC@charter.net> References: <101191640911041233y7762ca67s930cbd4fe207a0a2@mail.gmail.com> <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> <99BB3A4F-B4D0-45D8-B0D7-534A7B9A26BC@charter.net> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:18:36 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0911042018l47af6edbiccdb2e41c061b15a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:18:38 +0000 (UTC) The only way to capture off of ustream that I know is to use the free program jing: http://www.jingproject.com/ You have to navigate to the ustream page and select the region of the screen you want to capture. It's a time consuming real time process, so if anybody wanted to make the original videos available (Warren? Thank you!) It would be a big favor and much appreciated. -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 04:22:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 283BC3BE7C; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:22:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.37.166.12] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <4AF251B9.6070906@soundscapes.us> In-Reply-To: <4AF251B9.6070906@soundscapes.us> Subject: Re: Rejoined LD After a Short Hiatus Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:22:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2009 04:22:26.0434 (UTC) FILETIME=[947D6620:01CA5DCF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:22:29 +0000 (UTC) Hey Bill! It was great seeing you, Kevin, and many others. What a beautiful location that was. BTW, I recorded me and Robert Sterling's set. Kribophoric (me on alto flute, laptop, max/msp, and reaktor; Robert on electronic percussion) http://www.box.net/shared/ut9m22e51e Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Fox" To: "Loopers Delight Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:16 PM Subject: Rejoined LD After a Short Hiatus > Greetings, > > I was away at Different Skies. Almost as soon as I returned home, I went > to electro-music where I met Kris. It was great to finally meet and have > some nice conversations. electro-music is a sensory overload so I was > unable to hear Kris play. But I have the feeling that we'll meet again. > Now that I'm home from these two festivals, I've rejoined LD. On Thursday > 11/5, Steve Jolliffe (ex-Tangerine Dream) will do a live set on Galactic > Travels so please do tune in. > > Cheers, > > Bill > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 05:14:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BABA3BE79; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9p1nome8wFu7+Ofu+oraVcDJ+HbiZsJwR89vgwpzdIk=; b=bNvUCuceT85LTU8DvVmoHd1HQXLiRqucoLVEYHoLfPD9ZXBEm6Vzkr3csph8t63HpE JBwW9sPnxt7+a3fuCp23xxAraiYgNHOwcOjh7rBGSxaOYTvdwHOptPEvyqDoO76Vywn+ lmYokJXjSktVAwhvosqKQLKdLAZpF3GyPeFyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IzqwIU7J66od6U55nWoqJKL9N5LEccLL58g+v88zByLBi6Iqf+gGP6kKcZbuPZqu7f 5OIFovdLRz8u/6Cixv183HfxS+Gn9Gq/1PBGycrjZD6MHN7YKbuEy6tTAOOKU2UBIfUT IpSw0LAbTW+zhkwnG2PsbYUPhV2r9pVfmwDs8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <006e01ca5d6e$c3475c60$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <66f9cc1e0911040857y5157f755x78ddfa7da2cbb703@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:14:08 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110911042114hc51ca9cw654021fa61c91b63@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64b95e00548d9047798ccef Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:14:09 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64b95e00548d9047798ccef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ummmm, gnu/Linux support? ;) Actually, my question is not entirely facetious, as one of the company founders is a Linux user and advocate. So if you can find out any info about Linux support, I'd appreciate it. -michael On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Os wrote: > I seem to be giving this link a lot today :) > > http://www.eigenlabs.com/software/ > > "Windows software support expected January 2010." > > > os. > > --0016e64b95e00548d9047798ccef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ummmm, gnu/Linux support? ;)

Actually, my question is not entirely f= acetious, as one of the company founders is a Linux user and advocate. So i= f you can find out any info about Linux support, I'd appreciate it.

-michael

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 2:05 = AM, Os <os@coll= ective.co.uk> wrote:
I seem to be giving this link a lot today :)
"Windows software support expected January 2010."


os.

--0016e64b95e00548d9047798ccef-- From poste@poste.it Thu Nov 5 05:32:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 743 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:32:51 UTC Received: from mail.sstac.co.uk (mail.sstac.co.uk [87.74.30.41]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DE63BE6F; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:32:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([213.41.247.150]) by mail.sstac.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:15:44 +0000 From: "Poste.it" Subject: Il tuo account è stato accreditato 350 EURO Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:20:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2009 05:15:45.0046 (UTC) FILETIME=[0702DB60:01CA5DD7] To: undisclosed-recipients:; G R U P O S I C U R E Z Z A http://www.poste.it From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 05:58:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4D6E3BE7C; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:58:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1257400715; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=HI3btYQXJ79rzN5GtfQIKXe49iI=; b=edMl3NZz3cKLCFnOSTCv4zAdSI8LzuRfv5edj+PRJPZTXzxDrpmCZ7mXc6PuMn5x CzH+k6rIKYv0O8Rvq7gdDPIeWclzNrNZP+HXInO67oIS9wHPL8LQ5XjC7mtXRKix; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CwCMt5nCxxkA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=50eUEdfVAAAA:8 a=x1h96kkja5-Uwtoi0xMA:9 a=18MRd_gfolfHnZuNo5wA:7 a=X93IRgqx1flT44TD0QoGgy1BNVUA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001001ca5ddd$026e7770$4d832245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <101191640911041233y7762ca67s930cbd4fe207a0a2@mail.gmail.com> <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> <99BB3A4F-B4D0-45D8-B0D7-534A7B9A26BC@charter.net> <588ce11d0911042018l47af6edbiccdb2e41c061b15a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:58:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:58:35 +0000 (UTC) As far as I know the only way to download Ustream videos is by the owner of the show which probably is Bob or someone he authorizes. He can download them in flash video flv files. They (Ustream) keep saying that they are going to make more formats available but not so far. My 2 cents of experience.. best, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Simon" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:18 PM Subject: Re: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link > The only way to capture off of ustream that I know is to use the free > program jing: > http://www.jingproject.com/ > > You have to navigate to the ustream page and select the region of the > screen you want to capture. It's a time consuming real time process, > so if anybody wanted to make the original videos available (Warren? > Thank you!) It would be a big favor and much appreciated. > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 07:29:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0FD13BE78; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:29:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=fxTvXxheOBKOXE6nmvRIn7JuFCt11ByajocU6P1YHoM=; b=EaelmDjJ6kiTBrB7joeXJQrFaCKfkxtvCHjM+qXFAZdNCA8IVxtiiQXhy8k+vRf7UO VDgwMPLDwGLp6WxxZzVQj5du/PCob8OjB0zpxPAGE3ymBRZZcPQaJcddQJaxOTS7TSd0 XMR2wMx6Mrzu7ThJlZlhuVmptEL4BtFu38hbY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=pbeFgl00RNV/QE6JigWYNvltX2qpqlgEW1BLUeu4/HNZkQUisel5EwV2BDY52X4BwG SdvBw6nBJu85fXXYOKxZ6mLuIWxNmBysobssrnnTgc7+Mr3EuPiSV50p52nYJPCerfqb 2vZP/vFXCkCEtgIv4Ze4WPHxYtgmYcbif4ge8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 02:29:10 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60911042329u489d5ef6k6b1627cbcade53bd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Videos - recent Chinapainting and friend's session From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174785f2eeda1904779aae3c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:29:11 +0000 (UTC) --0015174785f2eeda1904779aae3c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chinapainting was recently on a west coast mini tour with shows in northern and southern California including Loopfest as several of you know who we go= t to see. This is video from our show in Venice at Beyond Baroque. http://www.vimeo.com/7437217 The Venice show was a shared bill with GE Stinson/Steuart Liebig. I posted their set a few days ago but here's the link again as it's timely with the posting of our's. http://www.vimeo.com/7209064 I'm going to start to work later today on a video of the folks I was able to document at Loopfest on Saturday the 17th. It will be a sampler akin to Michael's and if all goes well will be up ove= r the weekend. Lastly another collaboration of mine is with multi-instrumentalist Peter Thorn, a musician from Sweden. Several of you got to hear Peter as part of our VSV sets a few weeks back. This is a collaborative project of Peter's that he sent me a link on. I'll mention his bandmates as I think they are all local to Sweden and Per and others from that region may know these folks. Roger Sundstr=F6m Guitar, Fredrik Mikalsen Bass et.c and Peter Th= =F6rn Sax et.c. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWsu0S-BAw7M&feature=3Drelated. = neat stuff here. Jim --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0015174785f2eeda1904779aae3c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chinapainting was recently on a west coast mini tour with shows in northern= and southern California including Loopfest as several of you know who we g= ot to see. =A0This is video from our show in Venice at Beyond Baroque. =A0<= a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/7437217">http://www.vimeo.com/7437217
The Venice show= was a shared bill with GE Stinson/Steuart Liebig. =A0I posted their set a = few days ago but here's the link again as it's timely with the post= ing of our's. =A0http://www.vi= meo.com/7209064

I'm go= ing to start to work later today on a video of the folks I was able to docu= ment at Loopfest on Saturday the 17th. =A0It will be a sampler akin to Mich= ael's and if all goes well will be up over the weekend.

Lastly another collaboration of mine is with multi-inst= rumentalist Peter Thorn, a musician from Sweden. =A0Several of you got to h= ear Peter as part of our VSV sets a few weeks back. =A0This is a collaborat= ive project of Peter's that he sent me a link on. =A0I'll mention h= is bandmates as I think they are all local to Sweden and Per and others fro= m that region may know these folks. =A0Roger Sundstr=F6m Guitar, Fredrik M= ikalsen Bass et.c =A0and Peter Th=F6rn Sax et.c. =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= =3DWsu0S-BAw7M&feature=3Drelated. =A0neat stuff here.=

Jim=
--0015174785f2eeda1904779aae3c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 10:11:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1782E3BE78; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #39505143 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+gTXUUeB6g0f/NL3p0ZH7KV487L8DnMvrzoOkkPQ QSx6KRPvI4Ssb+ Message-ID: <4AF2A4D4.8030505@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:11:32 +0100 From: Nadia Salom User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? References: <1BFB899F-EC9A-443D-BD2A-2A54BE9C5C67@zonemobius.com> In-Reply-To: <1BFB899F-EC9A-443D-BD2A-2A54BE9C5C67@zonemobius.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.71 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:11:35 +0000 (UTC) I also just got one of those! It's so awesome and I could use it right away. I don't know how to program but it seems to be just fine for what I am doing. Jeff Larson schrieb: > > > You may also find some interesting and helpful resources on programming > > the Launchpad in this article from CDMu: > > These are excerpts from the Novation MIDI spec that has been available > for awhile here: > > http://www.novationmusic.com/support/launchpad/ > > This is one significant difference between the Launchpad and the > APC40, Akai has not yet released the details of it's MIDI protocol. > > People seem to be moaning about Akai not being "open" but it's > actually rather trivial to reverse engineer the protocol. It sends > and receives MIDI like anything else, all you have to do is put > a message monitor between Live and the APC40 and watch what Live sends. > If Akai doesn't publish it, someone will. > > Jeff > -- Nadia Salom http://www.nirmala07.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 12:19:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A81B93BE7C; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Vo9u/yJvoYFa1LdduZoXPGK39jcYIyYCyqOv41Vf5965Pht03lfMAoqAfdWTK3pETFE507cW3NAASWVFgYzUBv+3yPc8DonwOFKdF3ogJn++FZtTNH0JdPL0T5hPdz43u0U0g4T+AdvquGlDjOTlhA19ecUYUjWLHnnYWRYZOcs= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- X-YMail-OSG: PYVMUTsVM1nYJEH3DtjjpEnbcFqD.FtYQaiq4R3Rd4MTMmGRkazkfYMWLlgANGXy3EZuzjVUIZLx6_lingud9.upCK2zpGhWDO4NjVEvBtcz4iMFYCDFml.Daa9iWpQAwRCF6189x7Zo.zR2Ehn7hkhLETjLcReN9n_t2LpLHzsz.4Jq7yX4I7yCdk.WzssHqMiBl2WJAUUtDnVGXDyQf6.SKXl2N1EGjam9e7NWvVOdGThqCw55fRyppxRJSQTJFDjXGU_2iB3XsopEGw780ISXP4Krn3p0AUwwN8.7EZ3d6K1zUXFyUBvpq54bk8HaGmNwYThJYyU5Kx8zPI_d1qHFewOKUIClMK5KS44_2V4X3XadQz6.FikcUNJNMy5nYPM3oDzy1D.S0_HywWosx263uHWDemJs0LakPB7vqh8eqaLh4SCz3X5qgEBDTk.j448r3sPLOes1zJs.nT5Gtu8AYJbOCuRRjrxxkBFE_Xs7nyZT7JI- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <007e01ca5e12$00874dd0$3492a8c0@voo.intra> From: "Ruelle Benoit" To: Subject: POK:wireless foot controller - Korg microsampler as a looper Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:17:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <5qMQHC.A.P1G.MLs8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Hello, Here's something I came accross today: It's a wireless foot controller that may be useful for some. It is not midi but works with recorded keyboard keys (double "click" and fn+click seems supported). The site says also that you can remotely load different profiles. see this video for more info: http://www.x-tempozone.com/demos/Elements/7_programming.mov ---- Another thing: I got my korg microsampler last week. I've been busy and hadn't tested everything but I would like to share my firsts impressions. For the general working please see this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLpejsMlI2I I must say that I'm very happy with this kb except for some things (see below). It features 2 modes, sample mode (a bank of 3 octaves of single sound/loop up to 160sec at 48k) and keyboard mode (you select one of the sample to play it chromatically). There is a pattern sequencer (16 patterns per bank, up to 99 measures). It uses 2 midi channels: one for the keyboard part, one for the sample bank. If a key is not used in sample mode, it plays the key above at the corrected pitch. So in fact there a "disguised" keyboard mode in sample mode. Every thing sync (or not) to the given (tap) tempo or to the midi clock. It is really live oriented, you can sample while the sequencer or another loop is running. You can thus use it as a basic multitrack recorder. If you have a sequence running (let say playing a BD and a snare drum), you can resample on the "BD key" and replace it on the fly (the EDP replace). Nice! In resample mode (using the internal sound generator as the source, not the external in) you can even resample on the key you are playing. Let say you have a bass drum (1 sec.) on key c3, you can resample a 4/4 loop (4 sec) on the same key by playing the c3 key live. You can sequence and gate the inputs, nice for gate effects. Using the "key gate" mode (the sampling occurs when a key is pressed down ON the key which is pressed), you can do multisampling easily, just connect the midi out to your expander and the audio from you expander. In 5 seconds you can have a multisampled bank. The time streching is OK (like on the KP3, better than on Roland stuff) , you can use either a pitch change (slow down) or the timestretching to stay sync to the clock. In this latter case, the polyphony is divided by 2. There is a looper on the FX list (rec/play/overdub) but limited to one bar. Can it be used as a looper? Well yes and no. You can use it like a KP3 (see beardy man for instance) and you may need some preparation. The problem #1:when a loop has been sampled it is not playing immediately. I tried to use the sequencer to trigger a loop every bar and it kind of works but if you don't start the sequencing on the 1st beat (but a bit after), after the sampling ends the loop is not playing during a bar (as the note-on has already been issued). This bring on the second problem: problem#2: it is not possible to trigger the sample using midi or the sequencer. It is a pity the key gat mode can't use a midi IN note-on. It would have allowed to use my fcb1010 or an external keyboard to trigger the sampling start and/or use the sequencer to start the sequencing on the first beat. I need some more time with it but it's fun to use anyway. At least I can quickly use my DSI mopho (monophonic synth) in polyphony using the quick multisampling method. Ben. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 12:51:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 675783BE79; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sw6FnTsu0A6qC4a118kViL/VvpNmyZELNZxQqFoMSIw=; b=VUdkF6NWXJaFPFsZNWIPB4UR0c1tbjwNwzxP6ZUdunAnHBwzJDwZUk3LZs54Bib98F 92GQbjVwX9eqpC7YZ0059nrT92ha1WZKanHJtaJWbD2MnRlCrlZV73rS6BSZh+MFkPLy mjBU4C2qt+Q95LLGbY39+ME0Hq3y2Fk1g5aIM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IUgE6arQah6Ws3f8xYAgFAakLGXdT1tcU8lbrP8tQ6klIHJXBZq30mnt/Wk1ZX7pxY lJrHMge35n2PccP3/kp1JlBsNanJt1jc8d4jrSs6hI9/NlqCts1qkWSNYMUg/ybMwpk4 +n5qtbxazhipM5267vcNZ5oRI2mAygPPsWBKw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4AF2A4D4.8030505@gmx.de> References: <1BFB899F-EC9A-443D-BD2A-2A54BE9C5C67@zonemobius.com> <4AF2A4D4.8030505@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:43:05 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911050443l512e0e30sb26305f5bdc0e389@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:51:22 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Nadia Salom wrote: > I also just got one of those! It's so awesome and I could use it right away. > I don't know how to program but it seems to be just fine for what I am > doing. Lucky you! :-) BTW, you can't program them, they have a fixed output. You will have to program whatever is receiving the MIDI at the other end of the cable. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 13:22:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3C173BE78; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0911041656o427b7ee3xd52e334659ffe7f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <588ce11d0911041656o427b7ee3xd52e334659ffe7f9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:22:13 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Max For Live.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:22:22 +0000 (UTC) At 4:56 PM -0800 11/4/09, Art Simon wrote: >On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Mech wrote: > > > > Public BetaTest Program for Max For Live has been announced: > >Woohoo! Thanks Mech, I've been waiting for this : ) De nada! Now download it and go make something cool!!! :D --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 13:37:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D90AE3BE7F; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:37:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:37:40 -0800 Subject: FS: Lots of Pedals and more... From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:37:43 +0000 (UTC) A. Boss AutoWah AW-2. $55 Like new in box. B. Line6 FM4 Filter/guitar synth modeler. $160 Great condition. Does all sorts of autowah and filtering as well as mono guitar synth sounds. Stereo in/out and CV in to make it a Wah, etc. C. Korg G5 Synth Bass Processor $225 Awesome 90s Silver floor unit. selectable waveforms including voice. Cutoff and resonance knobs, etc. VERY sweet for guitar and keys too. D. Ibanez Weeping Demon wah $65 - Like new in box w/all papers. Extremely versitle wah with settings and options galore. E. Ibanez AFL autofilter - $75 - unique filter sound for an autowah (Jerry Garcia favored this series) LP/BP and *sliders* for control plus lo/hi settings for ultra flexibilty. In GREAT shape. F. Vintage MXR Dynacomp (block logo) - $110 - Not reissue, the real deal. G. Heathkit 60s FuZZZ! $200. Controls are "distortion" Boost" as well as two way toggle to add more bass to the signal. Sweet 60s germanium hand wired goodness. H. Boss CS-2 Compressor - $75- old standby, MIJ OOP. good shape. I. Tech21 Bass Compactor - $75 Versitile solid bass compressor. Perfect for live use or recording. with original box. J. Boutique DAED Disturbo DS-1 Filter/Synth-Fuzz/Distortion - $95 Modified Boss DS-1 pedal given new life and transformed into a processing machine. Self oscillating Theremin plus two OUT there filter settings. Now with Superbright Orange 5mm LED. K. Ibanez TS5/TS9 modified to original TS9 specs with socketed and upgraded 4558 chip, etc. Flip a switch and it's a Circuit Bent Synth with Mods by DAED - $55 5mm GREEN LED installed A VERY versatile pedal and one of one. Buyer pays shipping and paypal fees. I also accept USPS MO or pickup in Phila PA. Prices are fair but will consider reasonable offers especially if you pickup or buy multiple items. Some Pics and more info: http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/Salez/FS.htm Thanks! ---------------------------------------- Now Available for Purchase with Demos online: The DAED FEEDBACK SYNTHESIZER DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com/daed.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 14:02:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FDC13BE7F; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:02:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:02:42 -0800 Subject: FS: Chimera BC16, MFOS Soundlab From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:02:42 +0000 (UTC) Still cleaning out a few items I no longer use since I moved to more DIY things. Lowered the price on the Soundlab to $325. 1. Chimera Synthesis BC16 - $350. As new, I only had to wait a little over a year. Web site still lists these but read the archive for realistic delivery. Comes with the tiny patch cables and I taped a legend of the controls in the center which makes it MUCH more intuitive. http://www.chimerasynthesis.com/#/bc16-patchable-synth/4529526548 2. MFOS Soundlab made by Blue lantern with mods. PRICE REDUCED:$325. This has the timing mod as well as fine tune for each VCO, cross mod, and a few other goodies. I added an internal PS (no wall wart), Trigger button for env, and blue LED to match the cool plexiglass faceplate. 3. Zvex Fuzz Face pedal built into a EURO module. PRICE REDUCED $125. Real original Zvex FF with one width euro faceplate and Doepfer PS. VERY cool module and obviously one of one. Buyer can pickup or pay shipping from Phila PA. USPS MO or Paypal (will split fees). I think prices are very fair but if you think otherwise and can make a quick and reasonable offer let me know. Pickup and more than one item purchased get more consideration. Some pics here: http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/Salez/FS.htm ---------------------------------------- Now Available for Purchase with Demos online: The DAED FEEDBACK SYNTHESIZER DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com/daed.htm -- ---------------------------------------- Now Available for Purchase with Demos online: The DAED FEEDBACK SYNTHESIZER DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com/daed.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 14:07:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48D4A3BE7E; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Grn8a6AFf6aPnCzdROA7NsEPnubDZymhCDrZhAQvdko=; b=DEUoJd9TQks5TxBLfuTUkEMorHrVdU+4NwPQyjqWHpJFjCzClzJu176ZacO/ACCLCg 4PpnvcbNX80ORgU67idxsdmnlzQP4BdhltGuKl5hWg3WhhKwtC1OJprNXzi1p6jeUKUu 8kD00aFuznz4mo5aD765SSWbJqQJGLshMewHc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=SJfrZXNLqtkK/sqM7E1uBqCH8IwVJy4mFSczzZN9azC1u1F4f5EMQ/yZpJFKrNIpGT DxS5YxHVGyjakMKXRlZUD6KYpsNDgrLOTackmKXMC+P9vC3rHt9z7Bnf0c/jPXjSyXWI lHdT7z0LXIiZruJx5RK4noBAN9VCNojpG+vKY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <001001ca5ddd$026e7770$4d832245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <101191640911041233y7762ca67s930cbd4fe207a0a2@mail.gmail.com> <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> <99BB3A4F-B4D0-45D8-B0D7-534A7B9A26BC@charter.net> <588ce11d0911042018l47af6edbiccdb2e41c061b15a@mail.gmail.com> <001001ca5ddd$026e7770$4d832245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:07:32 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 891e344fdcd955b0 Message-ID: <101191640911050607k4e8d82dbhffed941b8d0e205b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:07:35 +0000 (UTC) I'm going to send my address to Bob, have him send me a DVD with all the clips, and see what I can do with it. -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 14:20:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB3143BE73; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MAZcGoF/umKsUM8Jh5jn1gByybYRZ0ot3Qe8ensFUKg=; b=AahFcjm7U+827JZe0aw5MTqjFyVD2XiFEz7/Wk1JSa689R/BALvsukqcY2Q3GqzpQY ObFYx8DInifcts8ABYcAW9lR4K5TyFLJMe+2A/ocKkdjPyKccuEWKcG6mOPNyh8hE7dp Z1imVHjKv/6lMg0zZzRNN+opb2DnEal1Ja5FE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MGypQlVc77c947r+fBiq3TBKGEiAiXvFPsvSZSGRmgmWZedvyWSkgfjYjKqzQY7di2 RHltWIGbRdhfWvYoYhXzdmV6vZEcsiAdh5i/0a337rw3+Bcbomvl9qB2QmTzY7ibiLF4 jC2hscszBQeoU981YrcR99Onff5IMjGMkfi8c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> References: <101191640911041233y7762ca67s930cbd4fe207a0a2@mail.gmail.com> <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:20:25 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60911050620j3e59b84am49b123a87cb21459@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Bob warren this may have a simpler solution. In that on ustream I found my afternoon session as well as those that followed, on the Loopfest channel that means to the account that Bob I'm assuming crteated, the videos are downloadable to that logon, atleast that's how mine works. Can yu either give that login to warren or to me as I'd like to pull down at least my set. Thx guys On 11/4/09, Bob Amstadt wrote: > I have all of the original video directly from the camera from Saturday > night after dinner and all of Sunday. Unfortunately, I don't have the > original video from Saturday during the day. I have not had a opportunity > to go through the original video and chop it up. If somebody wants to > volunteer to do that, I'd be happy to convert the video to MPEG and send it > to you. Probably the best thing to do is put the MPEG files on DVD and mail > them because that many hours of video will be rather large. > > --- > Bob Amstadt > Looperlative Audio Products > (408) 921-LOOP > >> also, is there any way to download a clip? Some of the links on the >> "show page" seem to be not loading. I'm wondering how long ustream >> will keep them up there (or exist, for that matter) - I'd like to >> obtain an archival copy of my set. > > -- Sent from my mobile device ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 16:26:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39B3D3BE79; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:26:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=IMfRkuZsyYlpUdTTXCMQqWb0O9aJKY70KR0aDVM4X7c=; b=BKRFC8oyijLfp9ER78LDW5ebP6Hv4OFIVFG6LGSV8HYc5OyuIGoOOIFjyXma0SXVd6 LAm+HWFBmOkqjuI05cToy51UsVpP2EXGvj1BSilrpSuYcu2mHI4OkFHH72FwVRudxAW6 b4dFDyCoo6HIMGPW89jSBYKi5hZ0WuiXRzJwQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=w/bNkuMhm9Il6ttCW7NSslNYIJ9sZyE8tPf8U9nHH4Cu6fk2j51NSaYdK7XKJaMd8m nV83LcCKz0j9KUt0aeGVdJnYoyk0AuEcEOOBN/cSwp/S2Fv0A62gZp7+ExM+HAMlLS1c Tew06gStI47Bu6keEqQLtwfk3tQ4uFb5oyyq4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:26:49 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0911050826gd077ecaif7771fa89c6f07d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:26:53 +0000 (UTC) What I don't get about this thing: In those screenshots, they use an 8x8 matrix to control e.g. levels for eight tracks. Does that mean that your volume levels are quantized to eight discrete values? And I remember people complaining that 128 wasn't enough... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 16:33:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DB5F3BE79; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Subject: Re: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911050443l512e0e30sb26305f5bdc0e389@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:33:25 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <1BFB899F-EC9A-443D-BD2A-2A54BE9C5C67@zonemobius.com> <4AF2A4D4.8030505@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e0911050443l512e0e30sb26305f5bdc0e389@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Will any of these work in conjunction with the Looperlative without a computer involved? Should I be wishing that Looperlative had USB rather than Ethernet (though since I think USB is directional that would require having a way to toggle the Looperlative's behavior if one wanted to also connect it to a computer)? Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 17:29:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18EC83BE77; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:29:30 -0600 Subject: RE: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Thread-Topic: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Thread-Index: AcpeNMpby54qeKKQRTmHMrvaKoMp1gAB8KxA Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AB0E16D@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7334ca1b0911050826gd077ecaif7771fa89c6f07d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0911050826gd077ecaif7771fa89c6f07d@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AAx6 ADw0 BrqI CEha Cmqx DDrb DcPq E+2O Fxae GRJi H2N+ Il3c JPC7 JPRt JetW KRYH;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{8AAB370D-C520-4826-9142-D9C284458C35};agBlAGYAZgAuAGwAYQByAHMAbwBuAEAAcwBhAGkAbABwAG8AaQBuAHQALgBjAG8AbQA=;Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:29:30 GMT;UgBFADoAIABOAG8AdgBhAHQAaQBvAG4AIABMAGEAdQBuAGMAaABwAGEAZAAsACAAYwBvAG4AdAByAG8AbABsAGUAcgAgAG8AZgAgAHQAaABlACAAZwBvAGQAcwA/AA== x-cr-puzzleid: {8AAB370D-C520-4826-9142-D9C284458C35} acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <3imfS.A.jgH._tw8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:29:35 +0000 (UTC) > In those screenshots, they use an 8x8 matrix to control e.g. levels > for eight tracks. Does that mean that your volume levels are quantized > to eight discrete values?=20 Yes. Pan is even worse, the middle two rows are both "center" so you effectively get 7 pan values. I guess this would be adequate for a lot of "dance" music. But this is just how Ableton has chosen to use the pads. Other applications can use the pads differently, for example using the entire grid as volume for the currently selected track arranged with 0 in the lower left and 127 in the upper right. That would give you 64 steps. Still not likely to replace pedals for some people though. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 17:46:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECADB3BE77; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:46:07 -0600 Subject: RE: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Thread-Topic: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Thread-Index: AcpeNbZsSbTZePMFQmK7U5Ao5okBwgACHInw Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AB0E178@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <1BFB899F-EC9A-443D-BD2A-2A54BE9C5C67@zonemobius.com> <4AF2A4D4.8030505@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e0911050443l512e0e30sb26305f5bdc0e389@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: gOE= BwIE CdsI DduD Dq82 D3IA GM1P HwK5 IRFd JIqF Jy47 Klu0 Kyve LpgM L2yS L5v9;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{876513DF-EE18-4CDD-9716-5305F6EC6532};agBlAGYAZgAuAGwAYQByAHMAbwBuAEAAcwBhAGkAbABwAG8AaQBuAHQALgBjAG8AbQA=;Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:46:07 GMT;UgBFADoAIABOAG8AdgBhAHQAaQBvAG4AIABMAGEAdQBuAGMAaABwAGEAZAAsACAAYwBvAG4AdAByAG8AbABsAGUAcgAgAG8AZgAgAHQAaABlACAAZwBvAGQAcwA/AA== x-cr-puzzleid: {876513DF-EE18-4CDD-9716-5305F6EC6532} acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:46:11 +0000 (UTC) > Will any of these work in conjunction with the Looperlative without a =20 > computer involved?=20 Probably not. What you would need is a standalone box that had a USB A-Female on one side and MIDI in/out on the other and circuitry to do the protocol conversion. Since you're not connected to a computer there is no bus power so you would need a wall wart. I've never seen anything li= ke this. There are a lot of USB/MIDI converters out there but they're designed to be used with a computer and I don't think it's simply a matter of replacing the USB A-male connectors they all have with a USB A-female. I'm sure there are people that could build one, but it's not a mass market thing. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 18:56:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C35C3BE7C; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=A8ANSKW3iNjoHsAn0fMcfFPveiqtYcAnii/y+HEwuKA=; b=G8fOIx8nBIUAHoC1c3amirv71H54lPK/dQDPbxtxDCHdL4nChLQ5rdpOuSOR5jWkjC JRhIVoj5SIgLly4pJaSxa7bpdtMy/PZw4EGdO6ZOuHsTutaj+l5SqJL7Nm3iIYMtUhe8 +sA8B+kQBfgabM4TA9oxSQn8U2dmERZeaZBxc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=P99KkVX8pYETYZEPztuNPAm+gxsGxTbixNJD4OxsQX6wP+N4auh+5mwdKKjFIN8G2A TWGB6kk6Z3SE/FVzbLyiwdFfoSQSsz6IUBrWxlAiZmnKRAU/uTIeZAGIPBIxXPZXMdzw BAULoVFCFta+CEteGsjsQ1pZZkmbZ2UcMuQZw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AB0E16D@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7334ca1b0911050826gd077ecaif7771fa89c6f07d@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AB0E16D@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:56:08 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0911051056u17e34785ob68708f7986f75b2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Too bad it doesn't have any expression pedal inputs. The APC40 has a couple footswitch jacks but none for expression pedals either. Neither seems like a really good choice for a guitarist or any other instrumentalist whose hands are frequently occupied, except maybe as an additional controller for launching clips. On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Jeff Larson wro= te: > >> In those screenshots, they use an 8x8 matrix to control e.g. levels >> for eight tracks. Does that mean that your volume levels are quantized >> to eight discrete values? > > Yes. =A0Pan is even worse, the middle two rows are both "center" so you > effectively get 7 pan values. =A0I guess this would be adequate for a > lot of "dance" music. > > But this is just how Ableton has chosen to use the pads. =A0Other > applications can use the pads differently, for example using the > entire grid as volume for the currently selected track arranged with 0 > in the lower left and 127 in the upper right. =A0That would give you 64 > steps. =A0Still not likely to replace pedals for some people though. > > Jeff > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 20:38:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAA843BE78; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AF33009.1080808@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:05:29 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kathleen Monahan , Musik International , Peter Koniuto , Paul Bryan , Canyon Records , Randall Frazier Massive Music America , Posterous Social Network , Bill Fox on MOG , Loopers Delight Mailing List , Daniel Pipitone , Jeff Kowal , Projekt Records Publicity Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:38:53 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EST/GMT-5/ITZ-5) on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on Fanger and Schonwalder. 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BEST REGARDS BEATRICE AKA From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 23:17:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 540153BE7F; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 23:17:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_080fac7b-a4c2-4c71-a063-e38dd2baca90_" X-Originating-IP: [193.10.16.104] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: A new rhytmic loop recording.. Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 23:17:25 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2009 23:17:25.0889 (UTC) FILETIME=[22ED9710:01CA5E6E] Resent-Message-ID: <5AXk7B.A.6iF.H018KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 23:17:27 +0000 (UTC) --_080fac7b-a4c2-4c71-a063-e38dd2baca90_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SO this is improvised (as usual) just guitar=2C amp=2C looper and some echo= added in the mix.. BUT this time i have mixed in the computer and tried to= be more creative with the echos=2C better or worse than "usual"? The idea of this piece was to keep it rhythmic and evolving=2C I'm using th= e insert function on the EDP ) set to an 8th note to great a rhythmic backd= rop that evolves with what I'm currently playing. Also using backwards and = halfspeed to create strange ambient sounds.. http://soundclick.com/share?songid=3D8290751 Enjoy = --_080fac7b-a4c2-4c71-a063-e38dd2baca90_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SO this is improvised (as usual) just guitar=2C amp=2C looper and some echo= added in the mix.. BUT this time i have mixed in the computer and tried to= be more creative with the echos=2C better or worse than "usual"?
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 09:08:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52A3B3BE7F; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:08:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 282076433/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.170.191/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.170.191 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AigBAHp280pPTqq//2dsb2JhbAAI3FqEPQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,691,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="282076433" Message-ID: <4AF3E796.3060109@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:08:38 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A new rhytmic loop recording.. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-i__o.A.7OE.Re-8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:08:34 +0000 (UTC) hey Ander's always nice to hear soemone using that effect :-) While you have to use the Insert button to do that, it's not an Insert, it's an 8th Replace (or Substitute). No big deal of course, but might create confusion to call it an Insert. There's a related effect that uses SUSInsert (Quant=cyc) to gradually add Cycles to the loop length which can sound a bit similar. andy butler Anders Bergdahl wrote: > SO this is improvised (as usual) just guitar, amp, looper and some echo > added in the mix.. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 10:52:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DB163BE7F; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 10:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 285012971/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.170.191/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.170.191 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AioBAJ+O80pPTqq//2dsb2JhbAAIlA/IXYQ9BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,692,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="285012971" Message-ID: <4AF40005.3070903@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:52:53 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A new rhytmic loop recording.. References: <4AF3E796.3060109@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4AF3E796.3060109@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 10:52:51 +0000 (UTC) oh, and enjoyed your playing by the way andy butler wrote: > hey Ander's > always nice to hear soemone using that effect :-) > > Anders Bergdahl wrote: >> SO this is improvised (as usual) just guitar, amp, looper and some > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 12:11:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8716A3BE73; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257509503; bh=EDgtwLB8jOUs9NI6WawVQhfKQbHJQixyK5z4wYDfCRI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2OeImPavhBlPlxjC2WUmhcYWDFEmGeD4P5ewPwcYagFXvjV7lENv9wwzapjMKlrjE8BXK3XqC140i2pmj8z1oEZhin+IktoIOBaNfwnf7Db58hn1U8w05T72+Pe6TDC9yn1T56NBbIleSlgzcqNW49M52l81pvH1rT5D557d+AY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=KD8yo3XVIgLWXMj0rXpkZ2aN1lGglj1CgvxkmNakNqBX1IhJoRUGDxmCkuP0RX8pcb9jEhZdMBfGh3qv1nREnRHXTAgZ1mjX6iBmJDN3b+zGFhqkXnHE+SiD4OVeDFhP1g+SyIjhPT5Y39p13AHZIHyTuTFaroJ6DxxJee2xAAw=; Message-ID: <198821.76710.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: qjyfPY0VM1kpeVR6Qt4cooIBt9cszuh6jw.ubcNu1naUzSH0y7idVqtwYBpOh9YeBIf67eEMp3Rg5pG39KAguU_03TCkFCpP8blpIoncc3vsgyOJNunU8pyDQs_0GdmLe1Nc0dxEDe13cI5y4XCsEMvdmxdmF1DhAaTunXcKGGKdGSlUgXnJk7Ng1RRAFtFkjGeAjvSFCXhHdfs2UU3BcZHGCDTLdW0YEQ29FtHzDcJ.rAEbgwlZB450R1Mw2po4bGLmAOOCdg.iynYV6flMkY3u9876Z83FSyWTaMSWWHwRM.NoZ1q4sA260IVM2uc- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:11:43 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: tapco blend 6 mini mixer/folding racks etc. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4AF40005.3070903@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Hey gang,=0AHas anybody have any experience with this series of mixers? im = thinking of getting one to put on my pedalboard,seems small enough then i c= an reduce setup time having it all on the floor and just conecting the 2 xl= r outs to the speakers.Also traveling around with one single pedalboard and= avoiding carring another rack case is essential.Right now im trying to go = all hardware portable,ther laptop rout is too shaky for the pub scene=0Atho= ugh putting the EDP on the pedalboard remains a task as well!=0A=0Ai was lo= oking at this:=0A=0Ahttp://www.pedalboards.com/New_Folder/folding.rack.htm= =0A=0Aare there any other folding rack alternatives out there?=0Ai welcome = any tips=0A=0Acheers=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A--- andy butler schrieb am Fr, 6= .11.2009:=0A=0A> Von: andy butler =0A> Betreff: Re:= A new rhytmic loop recording..=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com= =0A> Datum: Freitag, 6. November 2009, 2:52=0A> oh,=0A> and enjoyed your pl= aying by the way=0A> =0A> andy butler wrote:=0A> > hey Ander's=0A> > always= nice to hear soemone using that effect=A0=0A> :-)=0A> > =0A> =0A> > Anders= Bergdahl wrote:=0A> >> SO this is improvised (as usual) just guitar, amp,= =0A> looper and some =0A> =0A> > =0A> > =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 12:45:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C3D43BE82; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:45:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,692,1249254000"; d="scan'208,217";a="140514757" X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:45:36 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: roger Subject: looping with albeton live Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_120538265==.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:45:38 +0000 (UTC) --=====================_120538265==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi there According to the blurb Albeton Live has looping facility. Looping with Live Not only for guitarists, the Ableton Looper gives you classic sound-on-sound looping without the limitations of a hardware device. Looper is set up for remote operation, so you can record, overdub, undo and more without touching the computer. Has anyone any experience of this. regards roger --=====================_120538265==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hi there
According to the blurb
Albeton Live has looping facility.

Looping with Live
Not only for guitarists, the Ableton Looper gives you classic sound-on-sound looping without the limitations of a hardware device.
Looper is set up for remote operation, so you can record, overdub, undo and more without touching the computer.


Has anyone any experience of this.
regards
roger --=====================_120538265==.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 13:04:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 366743BE7C; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:04:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/b6VeZw/ICv2gKLCVIep95UTC9kdcFMYeTRnDnKs7Wk=; b=szRNoqiUGw7Lc58ltrNmafLTh0d8sROy0r6VrMR3ruGwuSdF5SDoDcY1oKmTWD9NBA D4WhXPuqL8ySdJAPiOQttN0g4twm86mKB5bLHjmEqEV891VAcaz2sOmlX8hdLpVL5rHT /CAQi7ywMY8Y0gKFqhCEu6XoFtXy8R50hbI4U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bDlFzSR1bvnErDFAzGkhWMT0TbYu5CLukZRglq70rn0DUW52eLYNQofYwrLWiowdzl 2HiON5ovGGSfq0+nHLNTUH0dAj721wBhzVynI4ri2J+c6r3udi5gQjB47zFpfB4aOx2Y h/1HIjKqcqsn1mJId74RyBZBXGyG6SBIAMjA8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> References: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:04:49 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping with albeton live From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:04:50 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:45 PM, roger wrote: > Looper is set up for remote operation, so you can record, overdub, undo and > more without touching the computer. > > Has anyone any experience of this. Yes, I did it for hours yesterday. Was coaching an artist that is going out to loop his album material plus live instrument using Live 8. Except for the feature your post mention you can also assign pedals to rate shift the loop. That means either transposing pitch one octave up and doubling the speed or transposing pitch one octave down and reducing speed to half the original tempo. If overdubbing new audio into the loop at those extremes the some interesting sound will come out when going back to normal speed/pitch. Another feature is that you can instantly divide or multiply the loop length by 2. It's not possible to divide or multiply by 3 or any other number than 2. When multiplied it simply gets longer by repeating the same chunk of original audio. When divided it cuts out half of the original audio and loops that. If repeating the division by two you can get down to very fast loops down in granular land where everything sounds like pneumatic manufacturing processes. "Reverse" is also possible. All these tricks you do to the loop in the Looper plug-in seems to happen according to the global quantization you run the host Live at. I did not test yesterday, but I think you should be able to create some interesting poly rhythm by jumping between different quantization settings while working the loop in the Looper plug-in. The most powerful feature that comes with the Looper plug-in is that you can set it to calculate the tempo from the first loop you make and then start the host Live as you close the loop. Before Live 8 this has not been possible in any other way than by using a Looper that sends out MIDI Clock that Live follows. This new system is more solid both in the way it sounds and in the meaning of not crashing or "loosing contact with master tempo clock" (hated that error message in pre 8 Live) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 14:55:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC1FC3BE7F; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed In-reply-to: <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> References: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-id: <93394767-2775-4509-9D63-35CC2583C7EB@mac.com> From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: looping with albeton live Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:55:50 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:55:53 +0000 (UTC) If only it sounded as good as Mainstage. I love both, and am constantly going back and forth. But I hope Ableton continues to develop Looper. Per is right, its sync abilities are rock solid. On Nov 6, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:45 PM, roger wrote: >> Looper is set up for remote operation, so you can record, overdub, >> undo and >> more without touching the computer. >> >> Has anyone any experience of this. > > > Yes, I did it for hours yesterday. Was coaching an artist that is > going out to loop his album material plus live instrument using Live > 8. > > Except for the feature your post mention you can also assign pedals to > rate shift the loop. That means either transposing pitch one octave up > and doubling the speed or transposing pitch one octave down and > reducing speed to half the original tempo. If overdubbing new audio > into the loop at those extremes the some interesting sound will come > out when going back to normal speed/pitch. > > Another feature is that you can instantly divide or multiply the loop > length by 2. It's not possible to divide or multiply by 3 or any other > number than 2. When multiplied it simply gets longer by repeating the > same chunk of original audio. When divided it cuts out half of the > original audio and loops that. If repeating the division by two you > can get down to very fast loops down in granular land where everything > sounds like pneumatic manufacturing processes. > > "Reverse" is also possible. > > All these tricks you do to the loop in the Looper plug-in seems to > happen according to the global quantization you run the host Live at. > I did not test yesterday, but I think you should be able to create > some interesting poly rhythm by jumping between different quantization > settings while working the loop in the Looper plug-in. > > The most powerful feature that comes with the Looper plug-in is that > you can set it to calculate the tempo from the first loop you make and > then start the host Live as you close the loop. Before Live 8 this has > not been possible in any other way than by using a Looper that sends > out MIDI Clock that Live follows. This new system is more solid both > in the way it sounds and in the meaning of not crashing or "loosing > contact with master tempo clock" (hated that error message in pre 8 > Live) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 15:11:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 559E83BE78; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4HqLs/Ce/oUj1sNim6y34HzzyLRYuTb7kNLbbOdR9Ms=; b=fzkTko+X5I0ZgNioMLM1uJEpN/waN0ifSkFPK5aYuJQ7SjbhL2xA+t1jPNAtxgc+l1 v4CepdEoKP5Y0Xw0HtiowNkgj7dUdhoaWsZmEFowbVvzh4+wwe0OaWSvoZw8bXpdvbW6 y8vX73A/XRa8TRgVRK4TwhS7Y60xccgHCO7/g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=w/kv1Dk0FLWFmHazrK0ljwYScQ8qbtTykNxBQ3mA8hw4xYm+/f03clWZcwlMORfFVE mIPyFsAZwnesFHuC5QIAafunjvJAUoJ5KYFZhkAqCr76RIzq1wNjPjmtiunO1gcESl3l N7DAoYfk6L99bSd7Mp0tXfHluW98RZAJMoses= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <93394767-2775-4509-9D63-35CC2583C7EB@mac.com> References: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> <93394767-2775-4509-9D63-35CC2583C7EB@mac.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:11:08 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911060711led343edieb30216c1b04c8bd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping with albeton live From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:11:09 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > If only it sounded as good as Mainstage. Yes, I agree with you Chris. I love Ableton and the concept of Live but it just doesn't sound as good to me as Logic/Mainstage for looping a live input on-the-fly. With Mainstage you get many excellent bass and guitar amp/speaker simulators as well as transparent sounding compressor, limiter and multi band compressor. I slave Mainstage by MIDI Clock to my looper and it works fine since I don't host any step sequencing stuff etc It's like Mainstage just becomes a part of the looper with the aim of adding beat synced effects and awesome sound. There is one awesome thing in Live though that I have not found a replacement for and that is the the "build-up-freeze" reverb patch. I love that ice cold never decaying space texture. It's all metal and vacuum. Only scorpions and bacteria survive... Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 15:14:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F5CC3BE86; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:14:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=eWy/MW0qZB0SAzwwe6piG+axPQBWdUE3swYJcBU1Gyg=; b=lgnmN/Rd/fx3V4nkHuCKRSrUoahhg+GWpCGSaEApl210w4JWw4LP64/mryYNHxTHY2 XVVI3Chgv4Ey0vnmbVEn7NXk9CeyeEAJM2L6nGO1DmYKHiidF1jCT4hv0M3ImFNEaFtV N7nv1EFnGzL421t6ub6HRyiVKyuGDMmLEq/iU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=czMclcp8MDyxbip+MjcE6oQr5NTrcaPa5S5VB7n1z8s89q9BvXtQbkKo5q++qBRej8 UMI6of0SkHaP/EqUevWreP/YwtYSeOEvUqpiq80mpOnrzC3+9Q6vYxIiY1pJV62TrVg0 4dvjsyOgE/MR07kulAiS90K0h53nv9yfu6pbA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <93394767-2775-4509-9D63-35CC2583C7EB@mac.com> References: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> <93394767-2775-4509-9D63-35CC2583C7EB@mac.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 10:14:35 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c1782a0bf4b537e7 Message-ID: <101191640911060714w52542c6ob8fef251877ff152@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping with albeton live From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:14:37 +0000 (UTC) yeah, i'd like to do the whole Live 8 & Max4Live upgrade from Live 6, but I just upgraded Logic Studio and I just don't have the bucks! If Live8 *included* M4L (and instruments as luscious as Logic Studio, and a great loop browser), it would be reasonable, but this is out of the park. It's very cool, but I think the Ableton stuff is very overpriced. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Chris Sewell wrote: > If only it sounded as good as Mainstage. I love both, and am constantly > going back and forth. But I hope Ableton continues to develop Looper. Per is > right, its sync abilities are rock solid. > > > On Nov 6, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:45 PM, roger wrote: >>> >>> Looper is set up for remote operation, so you can record, overdub, undo >>> and >>> more without touching the computer. >>> >>> Has anyone any experience of this. >> >> >> Yes, I did it for hours yesterday. Was coaching an artist that is >> going out to loop his album material plus live instrument using Live >> 8. >> >> Except for the feature your post mention you can also assign pedals to >> rate shift the loop. That means either transposing pitch one octave up >> and doubling the speed or transposing pitch one octave down and >> reducing speed to half the original tempo. If overdubbing new audio >> into the loop at those extremes the some interesting sound will come >> out when going back to normal speed/pitch. >> >> Another feature is that you can instantly divide or multiply the loop >> length by 2. It's not possible to divide or multiply by 3 or any other >> number than 2. When multiplied it simply gets longer by repeating the >> same chunk of original audio. When divided it cuts out half of the >> original audio and loops that. If repeating the division by two you >> can get down to very fast loops down in granular land where everything >> sounds like pneumatic manufacturing processes. >> >> "Reverse" is also possible. >> >> All these tricks you do to the loop in the Looper plug-in seems to >> happen according to the global quantization you run the host Live at. >> I did not test yesterday, but I think you should be able to create >> some interesting poly rhythm by jumping between different quantization >> settings while working the loop in the Looper plug-in. >> >> The most powerful feature that comes with the Looper plug-in is that >> you can set it to calculate the tempo from the first loop you make and >> then start the host Live as you close the loop. Before Live 8 this has >> not been possible in any other way than by using a Looper that sends >> out MIDI Clock that Live follows. This new system is more solid both >> in the way it sounds and in the meaning of not crashing or "loosing >> contact with master tempo clock" (hated that error message in pre 8 >> Live) >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 15:36:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79F5A3BE7E; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=b2lCKcZ2ae1t4BLJ8GFwhfUbxPCc7cXT4Xz4QsdC1v0=; b=xXkjDVgxeAwfOm+oVlTRRFdsm8mxI3bgqv1vNtYEmAqkZ60SCDXWXnLasaf0HlVn/5 d4b6W2XPj+7SasQWbwvKu73hc1kMUzuAPcevbVekp/foxUh/vycjNdjBIkhwqX98HHWd u3+i8GPPBT1cSfi1pi7zuabkI5GTA9qbpVNfY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=rkvC2DcEG6wXT27XQAeu/GfpMq7GSeo+TrPwFqP4hvdwHU5dFAqnRKfCORbZ9V3/Qa wZeegrXEgmzwi+NGRrcrSzPGNylO49+OR8lzNRcHA7j7JciHcNV6IO4QRSJ73yB1ve7x EQHRp33+CpoE2KzIRDfk/Se+krXFWBg80tDnA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:36:54 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0911060736j7a94d2ch8efff0f570ee728e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: looping with albeton live From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Roger said: > Not only for guitarists, the Ableton Looper gives you classic sound-on-sound looping without the limitations of a hardware device. Now I'm curious, and I'd like to ask those with lots of looping experience: what are the limitations of a hardware device which Ableton Looper doesn't have? Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 15:41:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 350F83BE85; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KqnwdCcLf5ygRbZ3fwxZbcis/oIf1cjllWIbF9K7YlU=; b=SdKU9f2hEiFIO0/sfW9EvamHFZlDguAkaRuvFKni1F8sCNM6I4cSpQzlJfer77TvC/ DaweICKzvTGqL2stx5wgIRI1GxBp1Zat9iwr+k9aDf7efsqhfOUvLDqGEFAjFQkwKOtu 7WHlo87ynki53e7pl9rTp6QcVeVSaz6jqzhv0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NQmBVl3mjg13SX/Cu5rrwG9i5ll9oppWLdoe9wdVARe1dqVLKQeRdkcl/czJY20eIR 5Vx0dCTfWnExHiGeBZpIZXso6Kx39pdhfLZs8bJLJhZh1BPN80XtQ7moYDDS3c/z5t0i aMhGIAuw0ZPfgDh+j4dpluQGc+eT0aR6JBqqI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640911060714w52542c6ob8fef251877ff152@mail.gmail.com> References: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> <93394767-2775-4509-9D63-35CC2583C7EB@mac.com> <101191640911060714w52542c6ob8fef251877ff152@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:41:44 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911060741m282449d2nb7949f8705054665@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping with albeton live From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <22i-8D.A.GJ.7OE9KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:41:47 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > yeah, i'd like to do the whole Live 8 & Max4Live upgrade from Live 6, > but I just upgraded Logic Studio and I just don't have the bucks! If > Live8 *included* M4L (and instruments as luscious as Logic Studio, and > a great loop browser), it would be reasonable, but this is out of the > park. It's very cool, but I think the Ableton stuff is very > overpriced. Unfortunately Ableton can't sell iPods and classy lappies to make up for underpricing. I agree Max For Live is very tempting, but I don't have the dough for it either. And since I'm a long time Cycling74 Pluggo owner I want to await word on the promised Pluggo owner M4L discount that Cycling74 people have mentioned in interviews. No info on that so far from Ableton's. But Cycling indeed discontinued Pluggo in order to put enough man hours into M4L developing, so we Pluggoists are still a sad bunch of losers in this circus. Hopefully they will feel pity and through us something... ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 15:50:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A62FD3BE89; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:50:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed In-reply-to: <66f9cc1e0911060741m282449d2nb7949f8705054665@mail.gmail.com> References: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> <93394767-2775-4509-9D63-35CC2583C7EB@mac.com> <101191640911060714w52542c6ob8fef251877ff152@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911060741m282449d2nb7949f8705054665@mail.gmail.com> Message-id: <28635242-7AB4-4105-85F1-D272FA926C1E@mac.com> From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: looping with albeton live Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:50:31 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:50:53 +0000 (UTC) I have to draw the line Max for live. For the next few months, I have to turn my attention to playing. I've spent so much time lately getting the software where I need it. I need to play some music for a while. I love tweaking, but it's not paying the bills. Question for you Per. I agree the sync out feature on Mobius works fantastic with MS. Is it possible to sync Playback with Mobius? Does Playback send out midi clock and song start messages? The documentation is not exactly clear with Mainstage. On Nov 6, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Warren Sirota > wrote: >> yeah, i'd like to do the whole Live 8 & Max4Live upgrade from Live 6, >> but I just upgraded Logic Studio and I just don't have the bucks! If >> Live8 *included* M4L (and instruments as luscious as Logic Studio, >> and >> a great loop browser), it would be reasonable, but this is out of the >> park. It's very cool, but I think the Ableton stuff is very >> overpriced. > > > Unfortunately Ableton can't sell iPods and classy lappies to make up > for underpricing. I agree Max For Live is very tempting, but I don't > have the dough for it either. And since I'm a long time Cycling74 > Pluggo owner I want to await word on the promised Pluggo owner M4L > discount that Cycling74 people have mentioned in interviews. No info > on that so far from Ableton's. But Cycling indeed discontinued Pluggo > in order to put enough man hours into M4L developing, so we Pluggoists > are still a sad bunch of losers in this circus. Hopefully they will > feel pity and through us something... ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 16:02:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 589B33BE8C; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GiUR8ZDUeDzn12TPSI8H2yI/VoLPeocNF+FOcCm2kuQ=; b=QLbPyTjohBIExoEO4YOiAKlLTh04+NXqPNzny2Xjs9mzj85iaMXTyhxJSa9+Ay7XER 8M63o8MOgQQtX1PfBAPKN9OolNU3X6V7sp+VeZ21nSQTMa4SCkAUzYTWQ3IIl52g3tyu 2XZwXleVnGb3QpmvTynndL1owVf4Kbt41ea6w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=r9qXInF6FcTNpnnOlckNUeFC0yyrFSAPU2uy34hX3fw3ge3wIP7hmgHOlHdXvSLF+4 pIOEUSzHSbk1+8zXZo8d8Ydgu3wkCyOhKcVHbgVSjnuhp/KVRQz1o4qdEPK8GK/oa31a DMdw32TRQlyIk5HKRcSDyGMkztNymW5ht+HJE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <28635242-7AB4-4105-85F1-D272FA926C1E@mac.com> References: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> <93394767-2775-4509-9D63-35CC2583C7EB@mac.com> <101191640911060714w52542c6ob8fef251877ff152@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911060741m282449d2nb7949f8705054665@mail.gmail.com> <28635242-7AB4-4105-85F1-D272FA926C1E@mac.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:02:36 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911060802v142eb435oda1c8b30dfaaeb79@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping with albeton live From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:02:38 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Question for you Per. I agree the sync out feature on Mobius works fantastic > with MS. Is it possible to sync Playback with Mobius? Does Playback send out > midi clock and song start messages? The documentation is not exactly clear > with Mainstage. Sync what way? A) Syncing Mobius to Mainstage doesn't take any secret tricks. If Mobius is set to follow host tempo it will sync just as any plug-in does. B) Syncing Mainstage to Mobius: - Set Mobius to "Sync Mode = Out" (under its Synchronization tab) - Set Mobius "Plugin Output Dvices: IAC Bus x" (make sure IAC Bus is enabled in OSX/Applications/Utilities/AudioMIDIsetup) - In Mainstage, select the box "Get TEMPO From MIDI Input" (in Edit View at Concert level) and set the source Device to the IAC Bus you told Mobius to send through. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 16:23:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 621DE3BE8B; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed In-reply-to: <66f9cc1e0911060802v142eb435oda1c8b30dfaaeb79@mail.gmail.com> References: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> <93394767-2775-4509-9D63-35CC2583C7EB@mac.com> <101191640911060714w52542c6ob8fef251877ff152@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911060741m282449d2nb7949f8705054665@mail.gmail.com> <28635242-7AB4-4105-85F1-D272FA926C1E@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911060802v142eb435oda1c8b30dfaaeb79@mail.gmail.com> Message-id: From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: looping with albeton live Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:23:36 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:23:39 +0000 (UTC) I've never found a way to sync Mobius to Mainstage. I think because it's not a typical DAW and there is no timeline, it can't be done. But I was hoping with the addition of the playback device, it could happen. I'll keep trying. I use the Midi Out feature of Mobius now. That works great. Delay Designer is almost it's own instrument that way. Thanks On Nov 6, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Chris Sewell > wrote: >> Question for you Per. I agree the sync out feature on Mobius works >> fantastic >> with MS. Is it possible to sync Playback with Mobius? Does >> Playback send out >> midi clock and song start messages? The documentation is not >> exactly clear >> with Mainstage. > > Sync what way? > > A) Syncing Mobius to Mainstage doesn't take any secret tricks. If > Mobius is set to follow host tempo it will sync just as any plug-in > does. > > B) Syncing Mainstage to Mobius: > - Set Mobius to "Sync Mode = Out" (under its Synchronization tab) > - Set Mobius "Plugin Output Dvices: IAC Bus x" (make sure IAC Bus is > enabled in OSX/Applications/Utilities/AudioMIDIsetup) > - In Mainstage, select the box "Get TEMPO From MIDI Input" (in Edit > View at Concert level) and set the source Device to the IAC Bus you > told Mobius to send through. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 16:41:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85CD93BE84; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:41:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=5AMutYaHjj1N3CzVX8nHgYfD4VZvq7Bvuj+c7l2j29A=; b=lZM9WcbSyWetiMtLN4EnkntcmDH6fhhZVF3ntfzIBOEDRXFm46tP6xp5r5yQMpCH1I 9hpvTCdQJap1+0q3aQ0t+F/J6/Loorrqt0k6qOii4FXy3hqkevWZaOQABRUrOF5lHicS L6Jfobn85gepBnqlFHDmS9QTprl7ebhqkizOM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=N6AJKWi8wJDIbaYUCbMgilt4d7efI1UNDKv4Vk2TlAFixEPS01w3pPZ+2MOqtHZAIe 0kDlupIM8nBMK/jcqZa/7aLknYPiq4Bmdfn/OUprMEgDXAVnyfrnb1KwoqC/3dTYa7p/ LijPuGmt3rCf5nqP9NI8yPvmevu4UceZCQeWA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:41:16 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911060841v3d1c5d1am1681b5f03284e9af@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Synciing Mobius/Mainstage (Re: looping with albeton live) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:41:17 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > I've never found a way to sync Mobius to Mainstage. I think because it's not > a typical DAW and there is no timeline, it can't be done. Plug-ins sync through the AU protocol. It happens completely "under the hood". If using Mobius AU as a plug-in of Mainstage Mobius I thing it should sync just as Delay Designer and those guys - am I wrong here? (I never slave sync Mobius, so I have not much hands-on experience on that). Given Mobius is set to one of the slave sync option, of course, in its "Configuration/Presets/Synchroonization" tab. I don't remember which one is correct but there are only about three option so you can find out quickly by trial and error. > Delay Designer > is almost it's own instrument that way. Yep, but a bit too rigid and CPU consuming for my taste (better in Logic where CPU cycles are saved due to that host not being real-time based). I like better to loop with the TapeDelay plugin. Assing and expression pedal to *feedback* and also assign the same expression pedal to *freeze* but scaled to freeze the loop only at the very toe-down position. Then you can assign another expression pedal to *note* or *groove* and make funny tape reel scratching noises on the side. I think it's cool use a TApeDelay plug-in as part of the patch PRE looper and maybe catch cool glitches in the loop by a quick overdub as it happens. The "fidelity degradation" of the Tape Delay sounds cool too. It even works in Freeze Mode but then the loop lasts a lot longer, only slowly falls apart. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 17:35:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AE383BE8B; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:35:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:35:32 -0600 Subject: RE: Synciing Mobius/Mainstage (Re: looping with albeton live) Thread-Topic: Synciing Mobius/Mainstage (Re: looping with albeton live) Thread-Index: Acpe//ejJLk225MlTUKS9Y/zKK1BagABewUg Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AB0E3AD@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <66f9cc1e0911060841v3d1c5d1am1681b5f03284e9af@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911060841v3d1c5d1am1681b5f03284e9af@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; 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On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Roger said: > > Not only for guitarists, the Ableton Looper gives you classic > sound-on-sound looping without the limitations of a hardware device. > > Now I'm curious, and I'd like to ask those with lots of looping > experience: what are the limitations of a hardware device which > Ableton Looper doesn't have? > > Rainer > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --000e0cdff77e4434c30477b767f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable weight?

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:36 PM, R= ainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Roger said:
> Not only for guitarists, the Ableton Looper gives you classic sound-on= -sound looping without the limitations of a hardware device.

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--000e0cdff77e4434c30477b767f2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 18:02:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9F673BE94; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1414 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:02:18 UTC Message-Id: <07AA6B5F-3147-415D-8AA5-0605DBCA58ED@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0911060736j7a94d2ch8efff0f570ee728e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: looping with albeton live Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:38:39 -0800 References: <7334ca1b0911060736j7a94d2ch8efff0f570ee728e@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Server-Quench: 38f17e47-cafb-11de-90cd-002264978518 X-Report-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwVbfTQRGRpo UEhAUlNVHgZgCxgB SBwaTBhxdxtCcGB0 YFlgW3JeQ0Q0Kzd7 Oh0AVz8GZGZnbWJR WUVdOQBcJgJNKxtC dwMuAiEQYGRTM2dp RwQ/emhpZ28BdHUK ElxUfUQoTBRDGjk7 XxEEEn0wHFEFDyw3 JRE6LVhUGEcPPy0A X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.1014:706/Kp Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:02:18 +0000 (UTC) I use Ableton for one shot loops and SooperLooper inside of it for overdub/sound-on-sound looping. With 4GB of RAM on my MBP I can manage, safely, 6 SooperLooper loops and 6 Ableton ones. works well so far On Nov 6, 2009, at 7:36 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >> Not only for guitarists, the Ableton Looper gives you classic sound- >> on-sound looping without the limitations of a hardware device. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 19:20:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA2833BE95; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1574 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:20:37 UTC Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <07AA6B5F-3147-415D-8AA5-0605DBCA58ED@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: looping with albeton live Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 10:54:20 -0800 References: <7334ca1b0911060736j7a94d2ch8efff0f570ee728e@mail.gmail.com> <07AA6B5F-3147-415D-8AA5-0605DBCA58ED@zoekeating.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Server-Quench: cb9346ce-cb05-11de-ab46-001185d377ca X-Report-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwVbfTQRGRpo UEhAUlNaHgBsCx4A SBwaTBhxdxtCcGB0 YFlgW3JeQ0Q0Kzd7 Ow0vZykGZWZmbGNR UUNddE0HIgpJehkW P00sBnMIfGQGMi99 FgVvYXVpZWwGeHlZ GV5SJlsEe0tZVjo7 QAgDGzpnAkwZR206 KxYrNlkaVEIQLEha X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.1000:706/Kp Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:20:37 +0000 (UTC) ps...i say "safely" because, while my computer is capable of live recording more simultaneous loops, I've just noticed that the glitch/ failure rate increases with each loop (esp if some of them are really long). So I like to stick with 6 and 6 since it seems the most stable. On Nov 6, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Zoe Keating wrote: > I use Ableton for one shot loops and SooperLooper inside of it for > overdub/sound-on-sound looping. > With 4GB of RAM on my MBP I can manage, safely, 6 SooperLooper loops > and 6 Ableton ones. > > works well so far > > On Nov 6, 2009, at 7:36 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > >>> Not only for guitarists, the Ableton Looper gives you classic >>> sound-on-sound looping without the limitations of a hardware device. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 21:48:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAE1B3BEA4; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bpgSJVyxm8/TDzlY16Qb3TW3s3nLydvywqAgB3CYvIA=; b=FZTbjW68r2PrLaLt9TvizQ+OcGxAXyAT/on2ALOW7+cAHU6vN7NW8Pvlu7PfR+QNaq qTgF38ioMTlmpESD7oG2lXh/RBS/fcYEYr+1HN3Wsw09t4dbzw3PFkJo4t0XUTW7hsdZ rqkniBVXXZ3r+DaJt8eadva5YGArr6LJC5tVQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=oMVX22CkQTm+rbItvjHqK0AWxLwaKnOXwo6NSEAShjdQy7eBcMgg4f1X+hfrD7vLVx a7/6xLbEzgYeinc8oCL2bDBXr9xVwLDWF5gepPil5XqGT7c8fDjFY738LxdD7OzkRoTr 3ZzVGqbXEAKsYjhfTQ1tYJumBWiN+eXPoBPPw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:48:46 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0911061348u7246a69cu6b3a87740cc592a2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: FS: Korg PE 1000 Polyphonic Ensemble - vintage rarity synthesizer From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Hi everyone, I'm parting with my Korg PE 1000 Polyphonic Ensemble synthesizer. This is a vintage rarity, and those interested in it will probably know what it is, so I'm not giving a detailed description here. Introduced in 1976, it was Korg's first polyphonic synth, and "polyphonic" here means one voice per key of its five-octave keyboard, so if you want to play clusters with your underarm, this is definitely the analogue synth to get. The synthesis section includes LP and HP and a sub-voice, to give a few details. The PE1000 is a unique analogue synthesizer voice with a specific sound not found with other devices. Condition: according to age very well, all keys, knobs and sound generation work. Going prices seem to be in the =80550-=80600 region. Will consider serious offers, including trade offers for (among others): * Kurzweil K2500 or K2600 (keyboard or rack versions) * Oberheim Matrix 1000 * Yamaha FS1R * Ensoniq Fizmo, SQ-R or similar * Kawai K5000R * Korg Karma v2 Shipment: can be picked up and tested in Munich/Germany. Would ship to anywhere, buyer pays shipping and packaging. Please note that the price range for sending it is around =8025 within the EU (outside of Germany) and above =80100 f=FCr the US. Payment: don't care how you get the money to me, as long as it gets to me in the amount agreed on ;). Replies off-list, please. Yours, Rainer --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions http://vimeo.com/moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 6 22:59:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D2483BEA4; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=b0UECo89rkz/HYviOtVMKCgkZIlH1F3cigz7yfIN1ZQ=; b=IthOsSHvata8GOdqac0W4QK1hi7fVbhAOln6rmIhgZ6AaqiHonD93PJhFD8h+hkrcI eyaq0I38wRg61TsyN9blgtHsoPhnRIUA7d9NqZqTruF/xmjDwbyeJ1g4q9tlKAoe46pC 0BecA5Wb3JdrFMqrzlSFDAkpP/173oyKFIO1o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=XcZXatHpFCDOK1vOki6WaJlA0yvbapbeLSad6+wYulgR/umSLozbosbN4BGn9MVOk0 U/qx6NbdBIb7VI3ME5IudZN6AFrGf6ceps/JlQWE3Mi/5UGYEViSSHtjg31CpLAzwJax l5p5s8hN3pf+OAMsqsIO+lZxE5Qr4kw/xBy3k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:59:10 -0800 Message-ID: <3fa302e30911061459t18ccea03m5f1991b1e8d24be5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: New Lunar Asylum Video posted: 98 Loops From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: nwaustin@netzero.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Just thought I'd drop a note that our perpetual ensemble, "The Lunar Asylum", has been collaborating with visual artist NW Austin (great musician too!), and he has been perusing our archives choosing segments for video explorations. Needless to say, we've been floored by his mesmerizing visuals and are stoked to now have super-duper Lunar Asylum audio-visual artifacts! NW has posted a new video "98 Loops" (audio circa 1998) at the link below. Please enjoy! We'd love to hear any comments you have on the piece. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnIvxC45xZk Cheers, -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" From lampteydanquah@gmail.com Fri Nov 6 23:52:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 139077 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:52:22 UTC Received: from mail.militaryclub.gr (miliclub.static.otenet.gr [79.129.39.92]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2311E3BE91 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:52:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([41.215.160.133]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.militaryclub.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nA595IX0026141; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:05:24 +0200 Message-Id: <200911050905.nA595IX0026141@mail.militaryclub.gr> Reply-To: From: "Lamptey Danquah" Subject: RESPOND FOR MORE DETAILS Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:05:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 To: undisclosed-recipients:;
From:Mr. Lamptey Danquah
The Branch Manager
International Commercial Bank Ghana Limited
North Kaneshie Branch, Accra, Ghana.
 
Dearest,
 
I got your contact during my search for a reliable, honest and a trust worthy person to entrust this huge transfer project with. My name is Lamptey Danquah. I am the manager of the International Commercial Bank Ghana Limited, North Kaneshie branch. I am a Ghanaian married with two kids.
 
I write to solicit your assistance in a funds transfer deal involving US$3.5million. This fund has been stashed out of the excess profit made last year by my branch office of the International Commercial Bank Ghana Limited, which I am the manager. I have already submitted an approved end-of-the-year report for the year 2008 to my head office here in Accra-Ghana and they will never know of this excess.I have also since then, placed this funds on a Non-Investment Account without a beneficiary.
 
As an officer of the bank, I cannot be directly connected to this money thus I am impelled to request for your assistance to receive this money into your bank account. I will guide you on how to apply to my head office for the Account Closure/bank-to-bank remittance of this funds to your designated bank account. Trust me that this deal is legal and 100% risk free. If you concur with this proposal, I intend for you to retain 30% of the funds while 70% shall be for me.
 
l will appreciate if you respond immediately on the regards.
 
Sincerely,
Lamptey Danquah
From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 7 03:15:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED0313BEA9; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 03:15:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AF4E666.80909@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:15:50 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ASMID Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #657 for November 5, 2009. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 03:15:55 +0000 (UTC) Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #657 November 5, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I started a month-long focus on Fanger and Schonwalder. The Featured CD at Midnight was disk one from Analog Overdose "The Ricochet Dream Edition" on the Ricochet Dream label. The first half of the show featured Steve Jolliffe who will be playing a house concert on Saturday. Fanger and Schonwalder: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#nov Steve Jolliffe: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) In-studio concert and interview with Steve Jolliffe. 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Fanger & Schonwalder electronic mirrors Analog Overdose - The Ricochet CH. II-IV Dream Edition (Ricochet Dream) Fanger & Schonwalder encore Analog Overdose - The Ricochet Dream Edition (Ricochet Dream) Fanger & Schonwalder liquid tape 6 Analog Overdose - The Ricochet Dream Edition (Ricochet Dream) Fanger & Schonwalder ems no. 1 Analog Overdose - The Ricochet Dream Edition (Ricochet Dream) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Fanger and Schonwalder. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk two from Analog Overdose "The Ricochet Dream Edition" on the Ricochet Dream label. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info From fbridge@fanbridge.com Sat Nov 7 03:25:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 611 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:25:36 UTC Received: from r239-m4.fanbridge.com (r239-m4.fanbridge.com [174.37.97.239]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B283BE92 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 03:25:29 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=r239-m4; d=fanbridge.com; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Sender:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:Date:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; i=noreply@fanbridge.com; bh=ddtLcnmpQQvm1Y6LFWFGQXaZZtU=; b=I2smIrMnJnCFtFI4j4k6pJYVHfpqzfJ88r9BEvtnYVHH39BREnL8XJtE8hmZVP6pVwUdWDiR0hDz HP8lnT72Ag== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; q=dns; s=r239-m4; d=fanbridge.com; b=owuSPoKcTjKr6C9q46qVaHYHGa30biGZxrda34LCT04fzlIOW6Z5S06mFFSASzRvFncKcZnrgMjG vXQ+oRyUNg==; Received: from 127.0.0.1 (74.86.91.162) by r239-m4.fanbridge.com (PowerMTA(TM) v3.5r11) id hujkb20pnd8a for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:15:04 -0500 (envelope-from ) From: "MTDGrafx / AcenSpade" To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: [MTDGrafx / AcenSpade] You've been added to our mailing list. 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Contact jcmtd@live.com or MTDGrafx / AcenSpade, c/o FanBridge, I= nc. - 14525 SW Millikan Way, #16910, Beaverton, Oregon 97005, United States Download the toolbar: http://mtdgrafx.fanbridge.com/toolbar Update Your Information - http://fburls.com/82-MckoIREj Forward to a friend - http://fburls.com/5-DIHKg4RC Unsubscribe - http://fburls.com/27-guicxDaR Privacy Policy - http://www.FanBridge.com/learn/privacy.php This email message is powered by FanBridge: http://www.FanBridge.com/b.php?id=3D128805 Powering Valuable Fan Relationships From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 7 09:09:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACAAD3BEA6; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AF53953.7040206@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:09:39 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To The AM/FM Show Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:09:54 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, November 7 at 6 am (EST/GMT-5/ITZ-5). I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase 1. On today's show, you'll hear new music by The Tangent and Arcane as well as music by Steve Jolliffe who will be playing a house concert tonight in the Philadelphia area. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 7 09:26:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B93B3BEA2; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:26:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AF53D34.1090306@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:26:12 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List , ASMID Yahoogroups List , Ricochet Gathering Yahoogroups List , tangerinedream Yahoogroups List Subject: Listen To The AM/FM Show Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:26:28 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, November 7 at 6 am (EST/GMT-5/ITZ-5). I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase 1. On today's show, you'll hear new music by The Tangent and Arcane as well as music by Steve Jolliffe who will be playing a house concert tonight in the Philadelphia area. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. From hee_jkjkj000n@msn.com Sat Nov 7 10:23:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 481 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:23:33 UTC Received: from col0-omc2-s15.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc2-s15.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.89]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015913BE99 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from COL124-W25 ([65.55.34.71]) by col0-omc2-s15.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 7 Nov 2009 02:14:26 -0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_352605bf-656b-49d5-a056-af55ed82cf46_" X-Originating-IP: [41.243.255.249] Reply-To: From: Richardson Henry Subject: (Help to Transfer and Invest US$16m) HGN Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:14:26 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2009 10:14:26.0736 (UTC) FILETIME=[15FF3B00:01CA5F93] To: undisclosed-recipients:; --_352605bf-656b-49d5-a056-af55ed82cf46_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Mr. Henry Richardson.=20 Department of Minerals And Energy.=20 Johannesburg South Africa.=20 =20 With a warm heart I offer my friendship=2C and my greetings=2C and I hope t= his email letter meets you in good time. It will be surprising to you to re= ceive this proposal from me since you do not know me personally. I only got= your contact details from the South Africa Exchange Information On-line Se= rvice on my personal programmed search on the internet for a reputable comp= any or individual to assist me sincerely & confidential which your informat= ion & profiles were very satisfactory=2C so i decided to contact you immedi= ately=20 =20 I am Mr. Henry Richardson=2C one of the Directors of Project implementation= =2C South Africa Department of Minerals and Energy. I am making this contac= t with you based on the need for an individual/company who will be willing= to assist me with a solution to a money transfer.=20 This amount $16m represents the balance of the total contract Value Execute= d on behalf of Department mineral resources and Energy by a foreign contrac= ting firm=2C which we the officials over-invoiced deliberately=2C of which = the actual sum has been paid.=20 =20 Should you be willing to assist me in the transaction? Your share of the su= m will be 30% of the $16million=2C 70% for me. To enable us commence=2C I w= ill need your personal telephone/fax number. This would enable me brief you= comprehensively on the project. PLEASE REPLY TO MY ALTERNATIVE EMAIL ADDRE= SS: hrichardson2002@gala.net=20 =20 Best Regards=2C=20 Mr. Henry Richardson=20 Tel +2771 934 7039 = --_352605bf-656b-49d5-a056-af55ed82cf46_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

From: Mr. Henry Rich= ardson. =

Department of Minera= ls And Energy.

Johannesburg Sout= h Africa.

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With a warm heart I = offer my friendship=2C and my greetings=2C and I hope this email letter mee= ts you in good time. It will be surprising to you to receive this proposal = from me since you do not know me personally. I only got your contact detail= s from the South Africa Exchange Information On-line Service on my personal= programmed search on the internet for a reputable company or individual to= assist me sincerely &=3B confidential which your information &=3B pr= ofiles were very satisfactory=2C so i decided to contact you immediately <= /FONT>

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I am Mr. Henry Richa= rdson=2C one of the Directors of Project implementation=2C South Africa Dep= artment of Minerals and Energy. I am making this contact with you based on = the  =3Bneed for an individual/company who will be willing to assist me=  =3B with a solution to a money transfer.

This amount $16m rep= resents the balance of the total contract Value Executed on behalf of Depar= tment mineral resources and Energy by a foreign contracting firm=2C which w= e the officials over-invoiced deliberately=2C of which the actual sum has b= een paid.

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Should you be willin= g to assist me in the transaction? Your share of the sum will be 30% of the= $16million=2C 70% for me. To enable us commence=2C I will need your person= al telephone/fax number. This would enable me brief you comprehensively on = the project. PLEASE REPLY TO MY ALTERNATIVE EMAIL ADDRESS: =3B =3B = hrichardson2002@gala.net=

 =3B

Best Regards=2C

Mr. Henry Richardson=

Tel +2771 934 7039 =

= --_352605bf-656b-49d5-a056-af55ed82cf46_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 7 11:45:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31D363BEB6; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 282088290/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.233.70/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.233.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgMBANfr9EpPRulG/2dsb2JhbAAIhGrEY5BXgTKCOFQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,699,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="282088290" Message-ID: <4AF55DC1.5080701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:45:05 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looping with albeton live References: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Except for the feature your post mention you can also assign pedals to > rate shift the loop. That means either transposing pitch one octave up > and doubling the speed or transposing pitch one octave down and > reducing speed to half the original tempo. If overdubbing new audio > into the loop at those extremes the some interesting sound will come > out when going back to normal speed/pitch. > by "interesting" you mean? (just curious) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 7 12:28:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDD4D3BEAE; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 282102568/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.233.70/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.233.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgIBAKT29EpPRulG/2dsb2JhbAAI2h6EPgSBaA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,699,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="282102568" Message-ID: <4AF567F5.7020402@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:28:37 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: tapco blend 6 mini mixer/folding racks etc. References: <198821.76710.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <198821.76710.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:28:28 +0000 (UTC) L.Angulo wrote: > Hey gang, > Has anybody have any experience with this series of mixers? They are made by Mackie. They bought the old "Tapco" name to use for budget versions of their stuff, presumably as a way of competing with Behringer without dropping their regular prices. oh, by the way, Rane (mixer manufacturers) say they don't know what a "service sheet" is! (and that all their docs are available on the website) so either a) they're just being humourous b) the term is not known outside uk (anyone?) Anyway, I managed to find the schematic for the SM82 under 'Manual' on their website and the conclusion is:- 'They use the same cheap oop amps as the budget gear'. All credit ot them for making Schematics (and layout) easily available. The guy at Alesis UK promised to mail me a service sheet for the line8 right away when I phoned (but didn't). He said they're supposed to have the tech support mails forwarded to them, but he never saw one. Probably he just didn't write down my email correctly, so I'll try again. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 7 13:19:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2BDD3BEC2; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:19:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xnqc05hsCPXkxvThf9RH45UqZm7Zvd5DT6ie8qD9/fo=; b=KoN4QMABZr945kYgtYHKgZRlSIAE422V/D4ayvOmvKi/dTSDs1o5dxSxdZCWD9iU4r eBvkmkLsgb8Y8rsfloB7C0QkWkUWvs0t/h7/mzLZ8m9WKw3bmR9WKMq6/ogRMG7PR4fx /6FLgihvru55996kJDccosNduqxFA+jIBaf+k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DoSYgZp47mwvzpSjFK9kl9zsqsxT4u4C5ZilKc45iwWj82okQVxxMHpX8YYuMIzeq2 L2+j+n5qqLyzZIPNaGf/ZUMNIidKQx4fO7ppuh75N6snvYowoV+ZTuFPsWiQXBUi4MlH wwRGrhfg190Olhym8LDrCBaPAzHTyH/bYSnyE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4AF55DC1.5080701@tiscali.co.uk> References: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> <4AF55DC1.5080701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 14:19:28 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911070519i6983f3adrea5dfb33e1cfef0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping with albeton live From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: <94QVqD.A.BAC.gPX9KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:19:28 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 12:45 PM, andy butler wrote: > > Per Boysen wrote: > >> Except for the feature your post mention you can also assign pedals to >> rate shift the loop. That means either transposing pitch one octave up >> and doubling the speed or transposing pitch one octave down and >> reducing speed to half the original tempo. If overdubbing new audio >> into the loop at those extremes the some interesting sound will come >> out when going back to normal speed/pitch. >> > > by "interesting" you mean? > (just curious) Sorry, I was just trying to cut down on text in that post. What I was hinting at is of course that a sound overdubbed at half speed will sound "speeded up" later when the loop is playing back at normal speed/rate. And the other way around as well; overdubs done at double speed will sound "bassy, slow and long" at normal speed/rate playback. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 7 13:32:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22D853BEC7; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:32:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257600731; bh=3tj+lpwQFyPpp7JEl2dHP4sLPgQ8wImd1yrY7uV1fZ8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=11nu3XLj1W7sp7YpDIc0nmardOWAkWmcMHDLnFS/LMgje5rGvo5rLbwYz1w3AM6zqpU/PqXhjnbHa5pa2L/L0qaEdcL7O2fKmxgo6yg987GwFr5DqV6AI5U9SCGVC1uUme/QzAT/IAwu3vbbJNlzZ0b1FKa/L5AA9UDDv1kkerE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=flQL7E5ICth7OWjZc+RCz5neYtSXsrAWzjt5NyWgJO4lWwHe/2T6EQlhPeyy8bapieFH4tzejDc/SDYJN+BjyO1t246VEInHsL2YS05NEtwSkB4uhdyLt9pV55ulD/2jx+uGLfWz+RRH3c9r3u2394z/8L9soPT7D3goH/ag9tY=; Message-ID: <882710.42511.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: fN9HF1EVM1m9_HTA.PEdscFbzPXJwH33dtFrGkVZe9tTkd.IGWsoVOHB6hK_imNEokzMegMG_jrpIP_Aw4g8y3fDJxraXU54oZhX5gToRVH4WCf0zvSY6e3IWvfmoIZqPhE9u.4ha58p8BUIJEyUn5l70XRLtleqgO._dfRV1XbWu5TFzJ8rMge3xNeR.ZbiZNeJHzRYfi851SQzr1jC.2aJxUYoENvj7QErvVIA_OpT5UjC760fFbtX3vQv3lDpgjQjZdH409wUm4jcRtDT4g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:32:11 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: tapco blend 6 mini mixer/folding racks etc. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4AF567F5.7020402@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:32:13 +0000 (UTC) wow,amazing thanx for the eye opener, however i was interested more on the = preamp comparison between the Alesis multimix 8 and the Rolls RM65B wich i = currently own.=0AThanx mate=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A> =0A> oh, by the wa= y, Rane (mixer manufacturers) say they don't=0A> know what a "service sheet= " is!=0A> (and that all their docs are available on the website)=0A> so eit= her=0A> a) they're just being humourous=0A> b) the term is not known outsid= e uk (anyone?)=0A> Anyway, I managed to find the schematic for the SM82 und= er=0A> 'Manual' on their website=0A> and the conclusion is:-=0A> 'They use = the same cheap oop amps as the budget gear'.=0A> All credit ot them for mak= ing Schematics (and layout)=0A> easily available.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> The gu= y at Alesis UK promised to mail me a service sheet=0A> for the line8 right = away when I phoned (but didn't).=0A> He said they're supposed to have the t= ech support mails=0A> forwarded=0A> to them, but he never saw one.=0A> Prob= ably he just didn't write down my email correctly, so=0A> I'll try again.= =0A> =0A> andy=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 7 15:04:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E603D3BEC1; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:04:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 282175365/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.233.70/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.233.70 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkIBAPka9UpPRulG/2dsb2JhbAAIhGrFBpBFgTKCOFQEgWg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,700,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="282175365" Message-ID: <4AF58C8F.5000805@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:04:47 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: tapco blend 6 mini mixer/folding racks etc. References: <882710.42511.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <882710.42511.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2Y2BDD.A.BSF.GyY9KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:04:38 +0000 (UTC) ahh..well.. I got confused between Rolls and Rane :-) ...probably been confused about that for some time. andy L.Angulo wrote: > wow,amazing thanx for the eye opener, however i was interested more on the preamp comparison between the Alesis multimix 8 and the Rolls RM65B wich i currently own. > Thanx mate > Luis > > > > > > >> oh, by the way, Rane (mixer manufacturers) say they don't >> know what a "service sheet" is! >> (and that all their docs are available on the website) >> so either >> a) they're just being humourous >> b) the term is not known outside uk (anyone?) >> Anyway, I managed to find the schematic for the SM82 under >> 'Manual' on their website >> and the conclusion is:- >> 'They use the same cheap oop amps as the budget gear'. >> All credit ot them for making Schematics (and layout) >> easily available. >> >> >> >> The guy at Alesis UK promised to mail me a service sheet >> for the line8 right away when I phoned (but didn't). >> He said they're supposed to have the tech support mails >> forwarded >> to them, but he never saw one. >> Probably he just didn't write down my email correctly, so >> I'll try again. >> >> andy >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 7 18:14:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 423D43BEC9; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=h4OqBd7gFH2SJrgPbxhS3a8GjezmgTzDmNHZwxO5RpI=; b=OFOkI3vsYo88FxLvkDDp3NW3ZunzzaI/rdqreU/A0RUysNZafJw/nuhVe30UMHAt6j x1Gmh738+N0gnihhBIEyUsut3lI2IsNSKAMNDK6MsmG8RndLhZ1l031QvlI6ubaL7Qim XKihFKFg0xiE0XODe7rCiXaeS0r839Hwo0v8U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UhzKUhtABFE0mFE9XC7gFDdRZ8q/1TnzkGjGAnMjJoSKC3SvQYGr2EnoZzM+MzFyRU BaN0h9GlcImGRXe2J6yoKaHZE7CWcPGbhQeXk6ZxY7HlVrwh7eKdNDERk8ctbqh+lBNI Bb5DAyKkD6QoEQ3OmPtK50v/GSEtjISJiyu/Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640911060714w52542c6ob8fef251877ff152@mail.gmail.com> References: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> <93394767-2775-4509-9D63-35CC2583C7EB@mac.com> <101191640911060714w52542c6ob8fef251877ff152@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:13:58 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0911071013y182f0286jb1f412796cec8ceb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping with albeton live From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Ableton has the most byzantine pricing structure I've ever seen. I can't figure out how much it will cost me to add Max for Live. I can buy it for $299 from ableton. ouch. It also appears that if you ever owned a version of Max, you can just pay the price to upgrade to Max 5. I bought Max back in the 80s from Opcode, and I'm licensed for version 3.6. I can upgrade to Max 5 for $129 plus the $99 I'd still have to pay Ableton for the "crossgrade." But the pricing page for Max for Live seems to imply that I need Max/MSP, which would cost me $299 from cycling '74. Just add to the confusion, I've got an academic version of Live 8, but there doesn't seem to be academic pricing for Max for Live, maybe because few people outside academia use Max. Any way, that is a chunk of change. I would recommend the upgrade to Live 8. The looper is nice. I like how you get a lot of functionality off of one foot switch. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > yeah, i'd like to do the whole Live 8 & Max4Live upgrade from Live 6, > but I just upgraded Logic Studio and I just don't have the bucks! If > Live8 *included* M4L (and instruments as luscious as Logic Studio, and > a great loop browser), it would be reasonable, but this is out of the > park. It's very cool, but I think the Ableton stuff is very > overpriced. > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Chris Sewell wrote: >> If only it sounded as good as Mainstage. I love both, and am constantly >> going back and forth. But I hope Ableton continues to develop Looper. Per is >> right, its sync abilities are rock solid. >> >> >> On Nov 6, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:45 PM, roger wrote: >>>> >>>> Looper is set up for remote operation, so you can record, overdub, undo >>>> and >>>> more without touching the computer. >>>> >>>> Has anyone any experience of this. >>> >>> >>> Yes, I did it for hours yesterday. Was coaching an artist that is >>> going out to loop his album material plus live instrument using Live >>> 8. >>> >>> Except for the feature your post mention you can also assign pedals to >>> rate shift the loop. That means either transposing pitch one octave up >>> and doubling the speed or transposing pitch one octave down and >>> reducing speed to half the original tempo. If overdubbing new audio >>> into the loop at those extremes the some interesting sound will come >>> out when going back to normal speed/pitch. >>> >>> Another feature is that you can instantly divide or multiply the loop >>> length by 2. It's not possible to divide or multiply by 3 or any other >>> number than 2. When multiplied it simply gets longer by repeating the >>> same chunk of original audio. When divided it cuts out half of the >>> original audio and loops that. If repeating the division by two you >>> can get down to very fast loops down in granular land where everything >>> sounds like pneumatic manufacturing processes. >>> >>> "Reverse" is also possible. >>> >>> All these tricks you do to the loop in the Looper plug-in seems to >>> happen according to the global quantization you run the host Live at. >>> I did not test yesterday, but I think you should be able to create >>> some interesting poly rhythm by jumping between different quantization >>> settings while working the loop in the Looper plug-in. >>> >>> The most powerful feature that comes with the Looper plug-in is that >>> you can set it to calculate the tempo from the first loop you make and >>> then start the host Live as you close the loop. Before Live 8 this has >>> not been possible in any other way than by using a Looper that sends >>> out MIDI Clock that Live follows. This new system is more solid both >>> in the way it sounds and in the meaning of not crashing or "loosing >>> contact with master tempo clock" (hated that error message in pre 8 >>> Live) >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.boysen.se >>> www.perboysen.com >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Warren > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 > http://www.warrensirota.com > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 7 19:02:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D0B23BEC3; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:02:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Kj1uu4Ihz0UVxvjV2U6zm6DCbOyM0KK1vy2UG1n8qGs=; b=OF32sNfbCAklCT8KJSJKyQZ8Aty+w8D6YZwlG2EqIKokL7rJg6B3U1WlPYU8WGWeeg B2Dh66N4W7RIjP3e+4DQyGh4+Z/5/K1GePGmb9yl67L3bmse/lEaJRIXZ/tyaGP694cq SzVHWrFYNV2lTd1mmwXwedTd1m0LCeFyibvV0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vGyfFdqQ3PRvlB3M1zY2cK7BGNa/12bHXuuNzAulTE8haErYV7ChC/3fGwkhvybdgw kv3g2ZeNN71/kHq/AlHhlYGQ77rX/ycKL+JN8eFWyAfmBiyAFQR0pBY31MBFBgwL4xm5 eMPXbhMC8mt6npI3dq7aVLs6CFkMno9+lpIiI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0911060736j7a94d2ch8efff0f570ee728e@mail.gmail.com> <07AA6B5F-3147-415D-8AA5-0605DBCA58ED@zoekeating.com> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:02:00 -0800 Message-ID: <1318f21d0911071102u6700b53co8a1148581a6b6a78@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping with albeton live From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2293660c55b0477cc984d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:02:01 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd2293660c55b0477cc984d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Zoe, have you experimented yet with Live's new looper as a possible replacement for Sooperlooper? On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Zoe Keating wrote: > ps...i say "safely" because, while my computer is capable of live recording > more simultaneous loops, I've just noticed that the glitch/failure rate > increases with each loop (esp if some of them are really long). So I like to > stick with 6 and 6 since it seems the most stable. > > > > On Nov 6, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Zoe Keating wrote: > > I use Ableton for one shot loops and SooperLooper inside of it for >> overdub/sound-on-sound looping. >> With 4GB of RAM on my MBP I can manage, safely, 6 SooperLooper loops and 6 >> Ableton ones. >> >> works well so far >> >> On Nov 6, 2009, at 7:36 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >> >> Not only for guitarists, the Ableton Looper gives you classic >>>> sound-on-sound looping without the limitations of a hardware device. >>>> >>> >> > -- -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --000e0cd2293660c55b0477cc984d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Zoe, have you experimented yet with Live's new looper as a possible = replacement for Sooperlooper?

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On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.c= om> wrote:
ps...i say "safely" be= cause, while my computer is capable of live recording more simultaneous loo= ps, I've just noticed that the glitch/failure rate increases with each = loop (esp if some of them are really long). So I like to stick with 6 and 6= since it seems the most stable.=20



On Nov 6, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Zoe Keating wrote= :

I use Ableton for one shot loops= and SooperLooper inside of it for overdub/sound-on-sound looping.
With = 4GB of RAM on my MBP I can manage, safely, 6 SooperLooper loops and 6 Ablet= on ones.

works well so far

On Nov 6, 2009, at 7:36 AM, Rainer Straschill = wrote:

Not only for guitarists, the Abl= eton Looper gives you classic sound-on-sound looping without the limitation= s of a hardware device.




--
-George

http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic
--000e0cd2293660c55b0477cc984d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 7 20:24:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FD023BECC; Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:24:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 845 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:24:42 UTC Message-Id: <401ED5A0-0FC8-4FC7-A505-4668C57E851A@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1318f21d0911071102u6700b53co8a1148581a6b6a78@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: looping with albeton live Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:10:33 -0800 References: <7334ca1b0911060736j7a94d2ch8efff0f570ee728e@mail.gmail.com> <07AA6B5F-3147-415D-8AA5-0605DBCA58ED@zoekeating.com> <1318f21d0911071102u6700b53co8a1148581a6b6a78@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Server-Quench: 9c231b07-cbd9-11de-90cd-002264978518 X-Report-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwVafTQRGRpo UEhAUlBSHgRoCx8E SBwaTBhxdxtCcGB0 YFlgW3JeQ0Q0Kzd6 OT88bhIGbG5pbGVR U0VddU1dIwFJf01F bU0sBicEfGQGMi99 Tlc4M3VpZW8FdngE HVFQdAIEe0tZVjo7 QAgDGzpnAkwZR206 KxYrNlkaVEIQLEha X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.1014:706/Kp X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:24:43 +0000 (UTC) yes, i have. but only a little. i had a few problems with it. - the first is latency. with just 4 loopers going i experienced significant audio latency and couldn't seem to get it down to negligible. i'm sure must be doing something wrong, but i conquered latency issues with my sooperlooper/ableton setup and it works great. i'm not wanting to spend a lot of time redoing my setup right now, but i will certainly try again later. - next, multiple loops. if you have a bunch of these things at once...well how do you SEE them all? i couldn't figure this one out. if you know, do tell me how to make them float on top of the Ableton interface so i can see them all at once. maybe i'm missing some key piece of data? - multi function transport buttons are not my favorite. lots of room for error when you're controlling many loopers. yes sooperlooper uses them too, but you can also send very specific midi messages (for example loop1 mute_off or loop1 mute_on) in addition to toggle messages (loop 1 mute - depends on the state of the loop). i can even have one function respond to 2 different midi messages (say, a note on CH16 and a program change on CH9). in Ableton everything is a toggle which does make it extremely simple, but this trips me up a lot when I'm controlling one shot loops in Ableton. sometimes I forget if a track is muted or not. i like to be able to fire commands that turn on 6 loops, regardless of their state, while simultaneously turning off 4 loops, regardless of their state. its true that sooperlooper is not perfect or consistent in its midi control implementation, for example, overdub is only accessible as a toggle in sooperlooper, as is record. but i REALLY like the way Jesse did the sooperlooper midi bindings. they're so flexible. it'll be hard to divorce me from that level of control ;-) but....if Ableton were to extend the functionality of the Looper to allow the functions to be accessed via midi separate from the interface....that would solve it. - last....OSC. this doesn't affect the looping functionality of either looper. but i like that i can get OSC status messages out of sooperlooper (record state, loop length, position, etc) and send them to another computer that might do something with those messages. the OSC implementation of sooperlooper is non-standard, so you need something to translate its output...but it does work. HOWEVER... i have been using Ableton's looper in my recordings to recreate my "live" looping in the studio. that's been great. it was always hard for me to record high quality loops, and have them not be "hardcoded". On Nov 7, 2009, at 11:02 AM, George Ludwig wrote: > Zoe, have you experimented yet with Live's new looper as a possible > replacement for Sooperlooper? 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--_000_7C4E742DFE00AD4D91884EB3BCA050EE02059E9C6915SRVESBEXCMB_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 8 11:34:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC8123BED5; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257680092; bh=cVLMgkAWKBj5RVNE0lnIL9TVc6oHuLPp6Aj2P6qn0F8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=atBFPc9rKE427izseg/WkGsy7WlWpiAKTqXbjywfehMGmis8EaOm1SlSqx3OTtf63OFmEogwgDdV0yCit7gA5GA+JoSls/w8XT1T10VKuERIpqSBWj/LmitvERp0H9+M1EWiLS2dtsSzNQxgd/Dft1790q4nsTPVKKxYL9PO2n8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bzs7WXOPjFgZs75sVXn+36PcRAK3AivHwd9kIdDbs2LhniZiWyT4DxNKUBMEulzTTapWULn1pOhvJYxrTsZwqVhKjNqoOtZq+/Y8DlqufCTc471ZJrTLJ1/V8ibYXjVaquPVRDVEPBJ8EoQbdANjebgXA+5z+Dz/ob4r5fzXr70=; Message-ID: <248513.17047.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 3teIr4MVM1nd0p0OE50OYzx5auQtyah19_GtX0KkwgpgmxDmVv8nTdcp6Wxm.4ohDFv4XlzP4Ljs0wjXTJeSP1QnKM.zoIBJWXGRTkZUqd2.9r8FdPUL58duYz_qPUnvjKhDW2jVPas4iXinh.eYl0Jg7ZzmcWB3iwEEDH._irEQI1JmtZFFvBcNTJP0hYxkV2foFKYT0m0RTMsNOtU9QZIezqBT3KvuZzK_g2KAt.npzBWCyRQAa3SIy9yiAnJ2tmGAIZOxEKoZqZaSjRhf.cR2Ew8E0RcLnz3CbbWUI1Bwm5nODYo_5xLgGK6n5o0- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:34:52 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: looping with albeton live To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911070519i6983f3adrea5dfb33e1cfef0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per,=0Ai am just reading this post,i dont usually read anything realted = to Ableton since i dont use it but im starting to get interested in it.=0AS= o from what i gathered your current setup is Ableton with mobius as a VST,c= orrect? are there any latency differences between such setup and just using= mobius stand alone?=0Athanx=0Acheers=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A= =0A--- Per Boysen schrieb am Sa, 7.11.2009:=0A=0A> Vo= n: Per Boysen =0A> Betreff: Re: looping with albeton l= ive=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Samstag, 7. Nove= mber 2009, 5:19=0A> On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 12:45 PM, andy=0A> butler =0A> wrote:=0A> >=0A> > Per Boysen wrote:=0A> >=0A> >> Ex= cept for the feature your post mention you can=0A> also assign pedals to=0A= > >> rate shift the loop. That means either transposing=0A> pitch one octav= e up=0A> >> and doubling the speed or transposing pitch one=0A> octave down= and=0A> >> reducing speed to half the original tempo. If=0A> overdubbing n= ew audio=0A> >> into the loop at those extremes the some=0A> interesting so= und will come=0A> >> out when going back to normal speed/pitch.=0A> >>=0A> = >=0A> > by "interesting" you mean?=0A> > (just curious)=0A> =0A> Sorry, I w= as just trying to cut down on text in that post.=0A> What I was=0A> hinting= at is of course that a sound overdubbed at half=0A> speed will=0A> sound "= speeded up" later when the loop is playing back at=0A> normal=0A> speed/rat= e. And the other way around as well; overdubs done=0A> at double=0A> speed = will sound "bassy, slow and long" at normal=0A> speed/rate playback.=0A> = =0A> Per=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 8 12:49:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC8463BECF; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:49:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=btr4NSr38uQP4OVAZmPv1gi9/GfvPptnksifZcWvR/s=; b=WFg970YMQiX5bWtNf4+37cJcv9HDP9am95KWghNLZcvxBinH2Rc0TGiTK73LqWx9rI NW/+pOj6JtDUAOZm3mCR7sNL84sLC7qxRawfT2ioqS1qyJhf+Bt1/pTTFNMOsJV/cE2E LvnAEUpnd1mhSxaqeylBZDKEsynR93osLabTE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=i0wgqJC3+BVUsaZDSFb7UBU/rBNrCKjcf91frulTE710FYSGUIDDNRoiAmsz2HeOqI x5/PcRrpwR1SzH6x8YWY8t8KStyVBH4KrXv16rNkVGtWehd4EUvKkUyW/UwokQA+djUu 5iGAdacIwdjfWn+EJ8uYvh02Lu2QAD74pVjPE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <248513.17047.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <66f9cc1e0911070519i6983f3adrea5dfb33e1cfef0@mail.gmail.com> <248513.17047.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:49:44 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911080449m28679391n24df0a1f10a67dd8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping with albeton live From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:49:45 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 12:34 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > So from what i gathered your current setup is Ableton with mobius as a VST,correct? No. I just helped a fellow musician to prepare a live set with Live 8.0.9. He is doing an important gig in London. We used Live's plug-in Looper because this guy doesn't want to do much looping. He is focusing his live set on playing electric dub bass (jazzmaster) and tweaking feedback delay chains in live (dubby tape delay simulation). > are there any latency differences between such setup and just using mobius stand alone? No. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 8 14:44:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74E6D3BECC; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:44:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=aRWO8ANWs9Ak7JB94RSjeamzUFQrP8M5VDlVqRH9RL0=; b=eIIHON6uOl1Jm5fyDmh8gK+LKl2SeRXuii7fbB1jTYBUehv70K3jHlZs83UAzMAGPd B9MCzNsnw2E2W7b0WIOXcwHIXR+ogbBFSPw9/IwLhzHpRMZJkjvE4DaOP7ADDW9sbTYi mdiedlsSmAQgbsnmpWH/dtDQUI1Cvg2wHv8A4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hOkNz4uGYjqXJgAnP4B9JHg52jvSDBuvRcbSbm6Dmss7wADo9zbhjihlH44RDfUZmG +x2ksWJlzx7m9WZu4gSixuLOGJNzb1MdRwXgEK2nvu4LCRf7EpiA/7kkxfgIMoy+pkGt 0jqkwQSX96NZfn/qfe3BJiXwojwKMHCSCnSlU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:44:39 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0911080644y1f21bf38o70a2cf15c8c7c7aa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Audio to MIDI converter for individual drum tracks sensitive to velocity (windows platform) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <_5x7aD.A.gZH.blt9KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:44:43 +0000 (UTC) Hi gang, I'm looking for a program that will convert individual drum audio recordings (e.g. close-miked bass drum or snare drum) to MIDI. Now comes the tricky part: it should be sensitive to velocity, i.e. louder drum hits should be MIDI notes with higher velocity. Platform: Windows XP. No realtime requirements, a standalone/offline solution is very much acceptable. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 8 16:56:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2FBA3BECF; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:56:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <12A6D8D3-4B49-40B2-A508-54042EF8CFA7@zonemobius.com> From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0911080644y1f21bf38o70a2cf15c8c7c7aa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Audio to MIDI converter for individual drum tracks sensitive to velocity (windows platform) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:56:50 -0600 References: <7334ca1b0911080644y1f21bf38o70a2cf15c8c7c7aa@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <3r4p6D.A.eAF.Xhv9KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:56:55 +0000 (UTC) I've never used it but I've seen this advertised in the magazines. http://www.drumagog.com/ There areothers: http://www.drumwerks.com/free_drum_replacement_software.html Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 8 17:02:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBD343BEDA; Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: richard sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0911080644y1f21bf38o70a2cf15c8c7c7aa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-219682105 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Audio to MIDI converter for individual drum tracks sensitive to velocity (windows platform) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:02:36 -0800 References: <7334ca1b0911080644y1f21bf38o70a2cf15c8c7c7aa@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:02:38 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-219682105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Drumagog? Works well enough for me. New version coming out soon. Usually used for drum replacement. Of course, the old LinnDrum and Alesis drum machines (Sort of) do this too. Not sure if they output MIDI though. Drumagog does. R richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On Nov 8, 2009, at 6:44 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Hi gang, > > I'm looking for a program that will convert individual drum audio > recordings (e.g. close-miked bass drum or snare drum) to MIDI. > > Now comes the tricky part: it should be sensitive to velocity, i.e. > louder drum hits should be MIDI notes with higher velocity. > > Platform: Windows XP. > > No realtime requirements, a standalone/offline solution is very much > acceptable. > > Yours, > > Rainer > --Apple-Mail-1-219682105 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Drumagog?  Works well = enough for me.  New version coming out soon.  Usually used for = drum replacement.

Of course, the old LinnDrum and = Alesis drum machines (Sort of) do this too.  Not sure if they = output MIDI though.  Drumagog = does.

R

richard = sales
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On Nov 8, 2009, at = 6:44 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote:

Hi = gang,

I'm looking for a program that will convert individual drum = audio
recordings (e.g. close-miked bass drum or snare drum) to = MIDI.

Now comes the tricky part: it should be sensitive to = velocity, i.e.
louder drum hits should be MIDI notes with higher = velocity.

Platform: Windows XP.

No realtime requirements, = a standalone/offline solution is very much = acceptable.

Yours,

=             &n= bsp;  Rainer







=

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dont focus on the gear-simply focus on the message and ask yourself if your music makes the worl= d a better place-
if not=2C then whats the point?


im goin on = a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead of hiding behind my = song or lyric-
dunno when ill be back-

good luck everyone

= fro



Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's = powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. = --_aa1ca141-27e7-4039-b198-191714e65c0b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 9 19:21:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A00623BEE2; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9c477cd6-f5eb-431a-8e48-773f90f57a41_" X-Originating-IP: [75.121.15.115] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:20:33 -0600 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2009 19:20:33.0603 (UTC) FILETIME=[B565D930:01CA6171] Resent-Message-ID: <-dsYyC.A.zKF.8uG-KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:21:32 +0000 (UTC) --_9c477cd6-f5eb-431a-8e48-773f90f57a41_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/= --_9c477cd6-f5eb-431a-8e48-773f90f57a41_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe

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- Dear Friend, I am Dr Lawrins Hosen,The regional manager of the International Commercial Bank of Ghana, first-light kaneshie branch in the Western Region of Ghana. I have made a deep and careful findings and research before contacting you and believe you can be the one to assist me in this transaction. Can i have your trust and confidence. I have packaged a financial transaction that would benefit i and you, it is my duty to send in a financial report to my head office in the capital city Accra at the end of each year, and on the course of last year 2008 end of year report,I discovered that my branch which am the manager made an excess profit of $5.200.000.00USD ( five Million, two Hundred Thousand United States Dollars) which my head office is not aware of, I have since placed this funds on what we call ESCROW ACCOUNT without any beneficiary.As an officer of the bank i can not be directly, connected to this funds,this is why i need you to stand and assist me receive this funds into your bank account for us to SHARE.i will offer 20% of the funds, for your asisstance. And note that there are practically no risks involved in this transaction,it will be bank to bank transfer,all I need from you is to stand and claim as the original depositor of this money who made the deposit with Kaneshie branch so that my Head office can order the transfer to your designated bank account, I assure you we can achieve this successfully.Waiting your urgent reply. Best regard Dr Lawrins Hosen. Tel:+233-261409895.
--0-542996522-1257794981=:31743-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 9 20:32:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B9223BE92; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1257798770; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=nVVNLfEJ9/x7Bbt3kE3KFfbtveY=; b=M411i0788EeVu8AEz4955meTf3I3wX6M2JqWBKqbhZDIvu7DRiKnPHvLyiArDAiw ZrhalSsjnjpauDumYTSlbjbYZaS2Z+wxHqvH8b92D3XtK2ds0E2Asf1jD+Z7A1QW; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=K4i2KabNSoYA:10 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=NlGqha9xKR9Dn9_rjkoA:9 a=Aq8s5sOm2ag7Ohd24MsA:7 a=QuWF8USTUdPPobN3bYFgAD9rDWIA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=hG1ilDDYAAAA:8 a=2aKjCFjyjoi0XAp8PPAA:9 a=PiytCiurWAjKczsm5AwA:7 a=Uwd-n-jomta2UM3EwDhIeyTyXsEA:4 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001201ca617b$ce4e4c70$d9832245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: Subject: Re: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:32:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01CA6151.E52E6A30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:32:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01CA6151.E52E6A30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Absolutly fantastic Fro! I hope for all you seek to come true, truly = inspiring. Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: FRO DIDDLY=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:20 PM Subject: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever knowledge they = contributed over the past 2 years- Here are 2 videos- "The Sermon" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw "How you waste it" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA since im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspire you all- dont focus on the gear- simply focus on the message and ask yourself if your music makes the = world a better place- if not, then whats the point? im goin on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead of = hiding behind my song or lyric- dunno when ill be back- good luck everyone fro -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign = up now. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01CA6151.E52E6A30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Absolutly fantastic Fro! I hope for all you seek = to come=20 true, truly inspiring.
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 FRO=20 DIDDLY
To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 = 2:20=20 PM
Subject: FRO videos for your = viewing=20 pleasure-

Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever = knowledge=20 they contributed over the past 2 years-

Here are 2 = videos-

"The=20 Sermon"
http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw

"How=20 you waste it"
http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA


since=20 im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspire you all-
dont = focus on=20 the gear-
simply focus on the message and ask yourself if your = music makes=20 the world a better place-
if not, then whats the = point?


im goin=20 on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead of hiding = behind my=20 song or lyric-
dunno when ill be back-

good luck=20 everyone

fro



Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01CA6151.E52E6A30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 9 20:35:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18FEF3BE97; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20091109135233.z9tpjs4sisc4sgc4@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:52:33 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- References: <001201ca617b$ce4e4c70$d9832245@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <001201ca617b$ce4e4c70$d9832245@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:35:06 +0000 (UTC) here here!! most excellent performances! :) Quoting Jeff Duke : > Absolutly fantastic Fro! I hope for all you seek to come true, truly =20 > inspiring. > > Jeff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: FRO DIDDLY > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:20 PM > Subject: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- > > > Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever knowledge they =20 > contributed over the past 2 years- > > Here are 2 videos- > > "The Sermon" > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw > > "How you waste it" > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA > > > since im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspire you all- > dont focus on the gear- > simply focus on the message and ask yourself if your music makes =20 > the world a better place- > if not, then whats the point? > > > im goin on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead =20 > of hiding behind my song or lyric- > dunno when ill be back- > > good luck everyone > > fro > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. =20 > Sign up now. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 9 20:49:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 149793BE88; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:49:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=ARNkNL4MADq1p+ZVHLS/rEtVDO9iZJz0zg7spH8ER9Q=; b=tGph3bFl1b8cFDkek9GZOx1aGb50Zyk8EHQxv5c0ibY3GKZSl3dJ/bvAnU69bcjj5l B7t0PlNqcCSEsDre5AqV3XkIj4PAmzrSDlUGPz6hzZt55ByIyPhuALEl07R+5hqwsFiX yv2mZedBvOr/jqNL+DH6bT/5jbf2KQLT3IAAA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ZY6Khw712/77giNHQzZLNKEMDTVU6ETAZubkumfwlwAiXk3sIGb4bbAizsSNx8OQHC xOEgyQfWqJKpYHDL9IkXbrYj4PmY91pTta5YlUiEZ7z5lzshmSnXeOidT6LpZ8jrwxWI ZGCXXCx4FtFVHYXifaOg1DzOt8k0PXRBR+ZgQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <339c30110911042114hc51ca9cw654021fa61c91b63@mail.gmail.com> References: <006e01ca5d6e$c3475c60$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <66f9cc1e0911040857y5157f755x78ddfa7da2cbb703@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110911042114hc51ca9cw654021fa61c91b63@mail.gmail.com> From: Tom Swirly Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 15:49:06 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 33de38980ae92f66 Message-ID: <26ba8d120911091249p7adec715l5f274e752bc1a8b2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f72578426c6a0477f65493 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:49:28 +0000 (UTC) --001485f72578426c6a0477f65493 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I just got word that my Pico is about to be shipped!!!! On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 12:14 AM, michael noble wrote: > ummmm, gnu/Linux support? ;) > > Actually, my question is not entirely facetious, as one of the company > founders is a Linux user and advocate. So if you can find out any info about > Linux support, I'd appreciate it. > > -michael > > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Os wrote: > >> I seem to be giving this link a lot today :) >> >> http://www.eigenlabs.com/software/ >> >> "Windows software support expected January 2010." >> >> >> os. >> >> -- /t --001485f72578426c6a0477f65493 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just got word that my Pico is about to be shipped!!!!

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 12:14 AM, michael noble <looplog@gmail.com>= wrote:
ummmm, gnu/Linux = support? ;)

Actually, my question is not entirely facetious, as one = of the company founders is a Linux user and advocate. So if you can find ou= t any info about Linux support, I'd appreciate it.

-michael


On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Os <os@collective.co.uk= > wrote:
I seem to be giving this link a lot today :)
"Windows software support expected January 2010."


os.




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--001485f72578426c6a0477f65493-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 9 23:31:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 601713BE73; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:31:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=/XIZ6fkQe9sBM8zsOg0pAfS4N+LvN4kS32Najoq2HWY=; b=gX4L4M6KwC2eCxPc2dDUpcmITPMvYCun8SguXe4NdX0qIlDGn9o7pllsB6205V3T42 9Gf9P1MAICYlpVB5n7Ueo3BN8dUs/CKPT+FXe5BqmctLoYmeeOTU6/hPbP9/vqCg7Tyv qQf4q7zWBRezRWkOTKwcM0k2koez96U2NiZ/k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kMTg95gjHrhn23cN+Aa61R6513DKmd37bQRISIDVht52uyC4IRG4+tA5rpxahxi20u Y8fGMh5xJKRwjy2Q+fej6f5vjApX1NLs49IA2kIclhb3AH2+kPv7AtbgoJ3fho0eF5Z9 l4gZljhJFiiw7Z15mdkpLUX18IgohCNRdyiYs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:31:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Soundtrack for the next Loopers Delight movie From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: LD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <4cVkh.A.-QH.LZK-KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:31:23 +0000 (UTC) I can be a relieve to play an instrument, press the record button, playing simple notes and chords and feel good. Nothing special but I like it, a kind of Sylvian soundtrack. Enjoy :) http://euroloopfest.com/premonitionfactory/demos/02_Piano_voices.mp3 -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 9 23:54:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F2C83BE77; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LYol9OmxjWsrW1zCyqHSSygvR20aMcm1IPelkeeGRbU=; b=WdH49cd1Msuf+/XPsSoNaXnTM9zMQ6wpkmTAEr1jP8IPt1YBx6rvOvguCpRlG+2Jnc eew3IbSbGrqKJG+m8tE7IHiakjCAWxpRKZCmlx04sMfao0Y+9x3pnFlK0FvwZK74RT1X 1ZSNwyi84kCBx5q9seglkM+HtVzX3FCycsAl4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iz7+qtBC2n5rAruoiJDfur89GMccYmIFhp8t3beIM2CpjfUeXWBan/Fo7vLxRx+O6B OHIfLUrjO/395ZKxzgzujYmY150T+NZn+xNeYBY2n+I8L8gp1Ha2tMV3UwQYnbwZmDRy XId3UgGLcaumkqjec5go5v5cglRclZF5r49uA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:54:24 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60911091554je205782r56e7ebcd79733764@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Soundtrack for the next Loopers Delight movie From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747609abed7ac0477f8e9e2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:54:25 +0000 (UTC) --00151747609abed7ac0477f8e9e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sjaak that's really lovely, very felt response to the keys and yes Sylvian comes to mind... good stuff sir. jim On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > I can be a relieve to play an instrument, press the record button, > playing simple notes and chords and feel good. Nothing special but I > like it, a kind of Sylvian soundtrack. Enjoy :) > > http://euroloopfest.com/premonitionfactory/demos/02_Piano_voices.mp3 > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --00151747609abed7ac0477f8e9e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sjaak that's really lovely, very felt response to the keys and yes= Sylvian comes to mind... good stuff sir.
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I can be a relieve to play an in= strument, press the record button,
playing simple notes and chords and f= eel good. Nothing special but I
like it, a kind of Sylvian soundtrack. Enjoy :)

http://euroloopfest.com/premonitionfactory/demos/02_Piano_voices.mp3

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http://premonitionfactory.com/http://livelooping.b= e/
http://euroloopfest.= com/




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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <0ekIfC.A.coG.siP-KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:22:52 +0000 (UTC) I have a mint condition LP1 that's never left the house, in need of a new home. I'm moving to an all software setup and need to purchase a new audio interface. All offers considered. Kai O'Connell From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 10 07:43:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A57F13BE78; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:42:59 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <12A6D8D3-4B49-40B2-A508-54042EF8CFA7@zonemobius.com> Message-ID: <20091110074259.255650@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7334ca1b0911080644y1f21bf38o70a2cf15c8c7c7aa@mail.gmail.com> <12A6D8D3-4B49-40B2-A508-54042EF8CFA7@zonemobius.com> Subject: Re: Audio to MIDI converter for individual drum tracks sensitive to velocity (windows platform) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/WGHECfmXWjEs81nKdL5WoQSKfVr59CR62/XcL5P 81UPP1n+Zj/PC6C45iVVVxoAxz8Cy3dHcUpA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: uyvAf+YueWUoccF6iHRzyTAxU3U4N4+V X-FuHaFi: 0.8100000000000001 Resent-Message-ID: <9RlAXB.A.nHF.GmR-KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Anybody have experience how this performs in a live situation? > http://www.drumagog.com/ Can you really use it real-time? best regars Buzap -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3.5 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 10 09:13:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09F423BE77; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/4ctdg0ToH5xDUAo102GtSwZjyBMC3wEmZTMACv2urw=; b=SSsu7ug56gQ/gLx1zu33FtqBBhXmceW3ams6IjGJ9ujzANqd5XP0e3fQ5GnsHosui3 ckMcB5MuwRXpXUXVkeX/IZLkZKf4QJVq+vQlykHKKZZ286rqEO4w5vbRODYuuEAQn5Z8 qP5jEFZq4ii8XwntL9s3qE22Ev+00FwxyQWXI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BNizHRD+YUC1tkm9eNmmL+IWj3fwLGVFV56ZgwKIA4QvLxkCxpd5Gn8ZrrNvQ35028 l+R5ElASMs2L9EFNY8f+uRRrdiyaP+eEjr2yNuCW0PRFsbUdR+GJaKKXc1Opk9gBsBsd loo5wq9Nq+kFnuIUlMof1d4yJjq/mfbRKtUps= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60911091554je205782r56e7ebcd79733764@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60911091554je205782r56e7ebcd79733764@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:13:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soundtrack for the next Loopers Delight movie From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:13:47 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Sjaak that's really lovely, very felt response to the keys and yes Sylvian > comes to mind... good stuff sir. > http://euroloopfest.com/premonitionfactory/demos/02_Piano_voices.mp3 Thanks Jim, it's a "studio" live improv, I'm glad you like it. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 10 09:27:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 562CD3BE79; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:subject :mime-version:date:references; bh=y1erPlG4mIfhVLTQS3YVixEhO9SUdbObJIhLThnTmWE=; b=XUo33+ZrVXqo8OgtfA0BEQE06m5D23xarok+AnXyJKSZzznfC4YZnXjHxeYbV2NGUx j3i0R99fwdK4Jb5RTivtjL119npyuBpOhltoaQRQpP2kGHcvhVkWJZY4TpXOrhorbjwk 0doW0ncoO+h89lhnLbvEgquT2cpYV2MJ8QFGQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:subject:mime-version:date :references; b=IJOvpSqS75ed3tqUnBzpDDBKA/y06IygbOzQs1a6HIJyec3KYF9i8V37R9c0YSYV3v CyI5PphQYdS03rIRe4C47eTWTfYvErCuf0+irovXXA0mVldB+2zZ4PvhydAgrT2Vl8TR Z0oY/Hv5ANsDulwnyTghhx+Pn32JqLF+i8YUY= Message-Id: <12756227-EE97-4521-835C-4CA2F5F9B708@gmail.com> From: eterogeneo To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <20091110074259.255650@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7C144) Subject: Re: Audio to MIDI converter for individual drum tracks sensitive to velocity (windows platform) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7C144) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:25:25 +0100 References: <7334ca1b0911080644y1f21bf38o70a2cf15c8c7c7aa@mail.gmail.com> <12A6D8D3-4B49-40B2-A508-54042EF8CFA7@zonemobius.com> <20091110074259.255650@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Hi Buzap, I've it on my iPhone. Never used it in a live context, but I'll do for sure. It's really responsive to your finger and the mic mode is a lot of fun. I wasn't able to load my samples till now, but i haven't spent enough time on it. It also seems to have a limited memory, so sometimes you can't load samples for each pad. For what it costs it's a lot of fun. Fabio www.eterogeneo.com Il giorno 10/nov/2009, alle ore 08.42, "Buzap Buzap" ha scritto: > Anybody have experience how this performs in a live situation? >> http://www.drumagog.com/ > > Can you really use it real-time? > > best regars > Buzap > > -- > Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla > Firefox 3.5 - > sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 10 10:30:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B051D3BE79; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:30:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5lZoKVc7gUI7oX2schBcTabN3MhzP/sJF9LEOY6hc/k=; b=JCl3SLwYe7hpYqhqP6gdChwVQDfy+TEdoBhNtgzXyANOiz/LQUsKNlwdB4GLJwsFT8 8Xoscq+NAT9DBrT4aIGe9A/TroCosoJqygBVh65B2xlP9JsvIBpagp2ZPCQtVljrrxnt HNYLvYKwZB3QVvVQDNpExN72eKmQXyIRz2A4I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=A8TPmcluXrYuCD2UxWyJ8ET7f92xvXPFLwoUsUMVFZxgLhFUNh0GJUNUpZUEjrwvtb +YbF3alPJBsH1urBjfrH/9/JHqmiTw53hvu+ZrslWYK8gziYSbe7UH1wBCjKZ7J0eeDS iNmtJuCyQ7fYaC1wkDJagGWV/kLLQs1yT27pc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9e0440a60911091554je205782r56e7ebcd79733764@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:30:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soundtrack for the next Loopers Delight movie From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255543f619410a047801cebd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:30:56 +0000 (UTC) --0003255543f619410a047801cebd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well done Sjaak 2009/11/10 Sjaak Overgaauw > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Jim Goodin > wrote: > > Sjaak that's really lovely, very felt response to the keys and yes > Sylvian > > comes to mind... good stuff sir. > > http://euroloopfest.com/premonitionfactory/demos/02_Piano_voices.mp3 > > Thanks Jim, it's a "studio" live improv, I'm glad you like it. > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > > --0003255543f619410a047801cebd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well done Sjaak

2009/11/10 Sjaak Overgaauw <= ;tcplugin@gmail.com>
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> Sjaak that's really lovely, very felt response to the keys an= d yes Sylvian
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--0003255543f619410a047801cebd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 10 10:56:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E2BB3BE79; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: two chords after midnight Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:56:08 +0100 Message-ID: <003701ca61f4$6906faa0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01CA61FC.CACB62A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acph9GhphJEHKYTeRKe5TYXASa/gqQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.1.61; VDF: 7.1.6.207) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:56:11 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01CA61FC.CACB62A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit two evenings ago I played a little guitar before going to bed. This is one of the takes, a quiet improv over two chords, with the midified guitar also triggering voice samples. Enjoy http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/2chordsaftermidnight.m p3 -Michael www.michaelpeters.de ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01CA61FC.CACB62A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

two evenings ago I played a little guitar = before=20 going to bed. This is one of the takes, a quiet improv over two chords, = with the=20 midified guitar also triggering voice samples. Enjoy
http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/2cho= rdsaftermidnight.mp3

-Michael
www.michaelpeters.de

 

------=_NextPart_000_0038_01CA61FC.CACB62A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 10 14:06:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3D803BE7E; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:06:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:06:37 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.31.159 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CC3026275EEFBB_88E0_155EA_webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 28878-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CC30262757CB98-88E0-A6EA@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:06:53 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CC3026275EEFBB_88E0_155EA_webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" =20 "The Sermon" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw "How you waste it" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA =20 =20 =20 what a fantastic way to wake up!.....thanks and good luck fro!.....m ----------MB_8CC3026275EEFBB_88E0_155EA_webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"

"The= Sermon"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw

"How you waste it"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA



what a fantastic wa= y to wake up!.....thanks and good luck fro!.....m
----------MB_8CC3026275EEFBB_88E0_155EA_webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 10 15:16:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5523E3BE7C; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:16:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=oKw6m9SlCkIA:10 a=IohcgyEqAAAA:8 a=lBwTeLnZAAAA:8 a=jKf0Pfm3AAAA:8 a=51s_8TWKxfzftBP-E6kA:9 a=_tS9NzlO5EKY-aTpdG82uRfrmUgA:4 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Soundtrack for the next Loopers Delight movie Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:15:51 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:16:00 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak, Downloaded it and opened and looped it in Quicktime all evening long. Made a nice, gentle, meditative background. Thanks! Ted On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > I can be a relieve to play an instrument, press the record button, > playing simple notes and chords and feel good. Nothing special but I > like it, a kind of Sylvian soundtrack. Enjoy :) > > http://euroloopfest.com/premonitionfactory/demos/02_Piano_voices.mp3 > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 10 17:10:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 975AA3BE78; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:10:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SDhsaNksCY6fvXptM+4b+lAMqDAX/+F1wrnaaoiz+r8=; b=Yzhbeda4DSr9T03TlzvGm8TLoUMEVeLhYQ9pCBoM8ERTcJWbi/rG6T6/KvQdZJ190P o2QMohViu4I2bow0xzTxaKV8KkHrynnLJgzUWjZ4FUKoJJg2WMSmVsot594nHMbLkykj fnA7+3+0a+QRyPbALiP3PhZxGRFSi1Efx+ty8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xCvT6AZPmWmRwN7BpXaaUwgfuTqIbFnTvqRt6Cbx5W7VmWIbzy4stYH6cpYIcIdG9v g8sF7tRObt7W4waB7aF2mFgYpe/itneSu/aK1VS0XIegmYOBhLKEe5EIuei052GFD1Do s66UrWD5sgdChH/oj35yVxyagiGjCM48n2geY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:10:13 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60911100910j76bd5a84m25f85520aa48ca01@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174762182b747e0478076271 Resent-Message-ID: <95FvN.A.tfF.75Z-KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:10:19 +0000 (UTC) --0015174762182b747e0478076271 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wow. How you waste it does lead cause to think so in a sense Fro it's how you helped a community today. Wonderful spirited building piece - you seem quite a committed soul moved to greater calling. Wishing you will as your muse leads you. Jim www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever knowledge they > contributed over the past 2 years- > > Here are 2 videos- > > "The Sermon" > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_jjoVO9Jzw > > "How you waste it" > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brZp4tMcsmA > > > since im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspire you all- > dont focus on the gear- > simply focus on the message and ask yourself if your music makes the world > a better place- > if not, then whats the point? > > > im goin on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead of hiding > behind my song or lyric- > dunno when ill be back- > > good luck everyone > > fro > > > ------------------------------ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up > now. > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0015174762182b747e0478076271 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wow.=A0 How you waste it does lead cause to think so in a sense Fro it= 's how you helped a community today.=A0 Wonderful spirited building pie= ce - you seem quite a committed soul moved to greater calling.=A0 Wishing y= ou will as your muse leads you.
=A0
Jim
www.jimgoodinmusic.com<= /div>


=A0
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM, FRO DIDDLY <parispro00@hotma= il.com> wrote:
Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever knowledge they cont= ributed over the past 2 years-

Here are 2 videos-

"The S= ermon"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw

"How you waste it"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4t= McsmA


since im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspir= e you all-
dont focus on the gear-
simply focus on the message and ask yourself if = your music makes the world a better place-
if not, then whats the point?=


im goin on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly inste= ad of hiding behind my song or lyric-
dunno when ill be back-

good luck everyone

fro



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--0-734735596-1257876735=:44606-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 10 22:36:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 628863BE71; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Kf/2CjVfVeIrFLACNpyvQPS0iFyxKYS/NWxG0jdFpCw=; b=eZhUXS6fXBaCgREX/qiapIxGnvBgALstKgglm0bq+qMgeKKjBhDGEPsSrnyNImsJnw ogYKgN1bjluBoG/GKSaxHnOrlGjJGYvrnYaD7JCiAruoa8gkcTM0BPA8dfZstpn47Q9x HdjeJ/k4OCJEZdmVMl5gUEQSPgm7TUP4jmIhk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pSNTaRY10MsoSbdrRCHCshtXUwoVM2q13U/n5AlGeC+FR1wAlrGVm08ukaZkb7t5Im kBSf3VMIISLFG5LKXMgx2cldosGV7OorgOj4YiaqRS96U8OkH84CFIwTiVXdq8I2yxZG UnlaMpY4fiW/6fmQuAJ9z6FYmnVe1Gv7VkX5k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:36:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Soundtrack for the next Loopers Delight movie From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:22 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:15 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn w= rote: > Sjaak, > Downloaded it and opened and looped it in Quicktime all evening long. > Made a nice, gentle, meditative background. > > Thanks! > Ted Ted, I sometimes have the need to play stuff like this. It reminds me of the time when I bought my 1st David Sylvian album, Gone to Earth, I think in 1986-1987. Whenever I went to sleep, the cd player was playing the instrumental songs all night long. I still love this album today, it gives me lot's of positive energy and the song I recorded yesterday reminds me of this period. --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 10 22:49:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1CB93BE77; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eKWPH+edMk4wXYYD0bXBuISZlnKGtPpya8NQ5CVoZMk=; b=Tl3XdrBn774wYm7iw9xrSA3+I4CVsSJMighmzs8rMmHH5ltsIgHsr8CRHJne4TDelt wuomOCJBwF9FWp2dT7N6OxrdfHrc6+I+8rVLc80UBlYIgwYshkxUuWX25UZMA6Z4NL+8 VbxA5gYDPJt8cQ9aUzGVn1Q5Pc8c7VR4znyGY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HGC+lJfPMlomreSk2XZ9LreySsocZW5FbfHVCKg7yKTeVPHtSXYXcgYx8gsN+NLvSH b6WRLKVYOIKRxngDzDi/qzWMlD5T97fEHwhp+oEKOH7rYGuXSIUqnlCpEXjVD9wK1Jkp JNlKsVlBQ70Cama22KswVsZ0YJL7p801ZGP5s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:49:11 -0800 Message-ID: <3fa302e30911101449r5ba6cc1bsc52b6a62168e040f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Soundtrack for the next Loopers Delight movie From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64e576e60991004780c1e29 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:49:12 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64e576e60991004780c1e29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I used to listen to Miles Davis "Great Expectations" every night before bed. The last couple years it's been Erik Satie, "Nocturnes" "Danse De Travers" and "Pieces Froides" along with a couple of Radiohead with my fave being "Sail Me To The Moon". It's my idealized subconscious musical programming. Lately I've actually been moving back towards a new playlist of various Miles stuff . . . -m On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote= : > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:15 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn > wrote: > > Sjaak, > > Downloaded it and opened and looped it in Quicktime all evening long. > > Made a nice, gentle, meditative background. > > > > Thanks! > > Ted > > Ted, I sometimes have the need to play stuff like this. It reminds me > of the time when I bought my 1st David Sylvian album, Gone to Earth, I > think in 1986-1987. Whenever I went to sleep, the cd player was > playing the instrumental songs all night long. I still love this album > today, it gives me lot's of positive energy and the song I recorded > yesterday reminds me of this period. > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > > --=20 Mikko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" --0016e64e576e60991004780c1e29 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I used to listen to Miles Davis "Great Expectations" every night = before bed.=A0 The last couple years it's been Erik Satie, "Noctur= nes" "Danse De Travers" and "Pieces Froides" along= with a couple of Radiohead with my fave being "Sail Me To The Moon&qu= ot;.=A0 It's my idealized subconscious musical programming.=A0

Lately I've actually been moving back towards a new playlist of var= ious Miles stuff . . .

-m

On Tue,= Nov 10, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2= 009 at 4:15 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
> Sjaak,
> Downloaded it and opened and looped it in Quicktime all evening long.<= br> > Made a nice, gentle, meditative background.
>
> Thanks!
> Ted

Ted, I sometimes have the need to play stuff like this. It reminds me
of the time when I bought my 1st David Sylvian album, Gone to Earth, I
think in 1986-1987. Whenever I went to sleep, the cd player was
playing the instrumental songs all night long. I still love this album
today, it gives me lot's of positive energy and the song I recorded
yesterday reminds me of this period.
--
Sjaak Overgaauw
http://premoni= tionfactory.com/
http://livelooping.be/=
http://euroloopfest.= com/




--
Mikko Biffle
= Biffoz@Gmail.com
http://w= ww.reverbnation.com/biffoz
"Running scared from all the usual d= istractions!"
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November 2009, 12:32 >=20 >=20 > =20 > #yiv1854770628 .hmmessage P { > PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-= TOP:0px;} > #yiv1854770628 { > FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Verdana;} >=20 >=20 > =20 > =20 > Absolutly fantastic Fro! I hope for > all you seek to come=20 > true, truly inspiring. > =A0 > Jeff >=20 > ----- Original Message > -----=20 > From:=20 > FRO=20 > DIDDLY=20 > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > =20 > Sent: Monday, > November 09, 2009 2:20=20 > PM > Subject: FRO videos > for your viewing=20 > pleasure- > =20 > Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever > knowledge=20 > they contributed over the past 2 years- >=20 > Here are 2 videos- >=20 > "The=20 > Sermon" > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw >=20 > "How=20 > you waste it" > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA >=20 >=20 > since=20 > im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspire you > all- > dont focus on=20 > the gear- > simply focus on the message and ask yourself if your music > makes=20 > the world a better place- > if not, then whats the point? >=20 >=20 > im goin=20 > on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead > of hiding behind my=20 > song or lyric- > dunno when ill be back- >=20 > good luck=20 > everyone >=20 > fro >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM > protection. Sign up now. =20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 11 06:26:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48DD43BE7E; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VwoOhgBslXeU7qLwkmGB9X5LldftMjNA8lXnJW70nl8=; b=N+Nq5EcPyx8FsDSiCeo4v8woGf8TNKdO2Nc9J6NnbPPlp9OQfGMkP4VJdeE2TXw97O aEevG8/SFlgGM9RkJ1Ka5ajchJh0Es19rjwCQvNoc+Cyfackf6Uj9KqXsmS45aO2lAZl dqGekgA/DJyN6flcG5GEPnYtfT4IHsP2tseXc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rbhcGRavRVkeWifVH2ymE7G85/80qrxgpPy/tXsgyeluS9KsS5WBdMcQDh0rVgr7+t tjQQQgXAyr9H1IMlTGzWj8Q00t+QA0Cg0W0gVV7WKk5n8SaOdUElIvvEUcrHRBu22d7D w5LWStbAUpDOSPMFoZCeR7ZoyLvJBCQlTYVLE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <870031.19723.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <001201ca617b$ce4e4c70$d9832245@YOUR08D5303051> <870031.19723.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:26:09 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7ea689e1abc04781280cf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:26:12 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d7ea689e1abc04781280cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 inspiring! ... thanks for this, FRO. 2009/11/11 L.Angulo > really wonderful FRO thanx for all the tips you gave as well,thoguh i know > you use mobius im still curious how you are doing all of it! > cheers > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- Jeff Duke schrieb am Mo, 9.11.2009: > > > Von: Jeff Duke > > Betreff: Re: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Datum: Montag, 9. November 2009, 12:32 > > > > > > > > #yiv1854770628 .hmmessage P { > > > PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;} > > #yiv1854770628 { > > FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Verdana;} > > > > > > > > > > Absolutly fantastic Fro! I hope for > > all you seek to come > > true, truly inspiring. > > > > Jeff > > > > ----- Original Message > > ----- > > From: > > FRO > > DIDDLY > > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > > > Sent: Monday, > > November 09, 2009 2:20 > > PM > > Subject: FRO videos > > for your viewing > > pleasure- > > > > Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever > > knowledge > > they contributed over the past 2 years- > > > > Here are 2 videos- > > > > "The > > Sermon" > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_jjoVO9Jzw > > > > "How > > you waste it" > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brZp4tMcsmA > > > > > > since > > im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspire you > > all- > > dont focus on > > the gear- > > simply focus on the message and ask yourself if your music > > makes > > the world a better place- > > if not, then whats the point? > > > > > > im goin > > on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead > > of hiding behind my > > song or lyric- > > dunno when ill be back- > > > > good luck > > everyone > > > > fro > > > > > > > > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM > > protection. Sign up now. > > > > > > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d7ea689e1abc04781280cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable inspiring! ... thanks for this, FRO.

2009= /11/11 L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com>
really wonderful FRO thanx for all the tips you gave as well,thoguh i know = you use mobius im still curious how you are doing all of it!
cheers
www.mysp= ace.com/luisangulocom


--- Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmai= l.com> schrieb am Mo, 9.11.2009:

> Von: Jeff Duke <jeff_d@emb= arqmail.com>
> Betreff: Re: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure-
> An: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com
> Datum: Montag, 9. November 2009, 12:32
>
>
>
> #yiv1854770628 .hmmessage P {
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> Absolutly fantastic Fro! I hope for
> all you seek to come
> true, truly inspiring.
> =A0
> Jeff
>
> =A0 ----- Original Message
> -----
> =A0 From:
> =A0 FRO
> =A0 DIDDLY
> =A0 To: loopers= -delight@loopers-delight.com
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> =A0 Sent: Monday,
> November 09, 2009 2:20
> =A0 PM
> =A0 Subject: FRO videos
> for your viewing
> =A0 pleasure-
>
> Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever
> knowledge
> =A0 they contributed over the past 2 years-
>
> Here are 2 videos-
>
> "The
> =A0 Sermon"
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw
>
> "How
> =A0 you waste it"
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA
>
>
> since
> =A0 im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspire you
> all-
> dont focus on
> =A0 the gear-
> simply focus on the message and ask yourself if your music
> makes
> =A0 the world a better place-
> if not, then whats the point?
>
>
> im goin
> =A0 on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead
> of hiding behind my
> =A0 song or lyric-
> dunno when ill be back-
>
> good luck
> =A0 everyone
>
> fro
>
>
>
>
> =A0 Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM
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>







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--0016e6d7ea689e1abc04781280cf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 11 12:17:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A77AF3BE6F; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=snY0mZFe5PnDA3YlDTorEbVNkaCDuPiLiMVMQU6jNKs=; b=LbDZu2cZsJwH0ceQYV/8ZSHurjctEqSFuqeLzQbv2A0MSuy+9621X1gEjD4BtYI+oE xTSNVu26TJsuxLooQFBLspMfw/vLHsFHrhuaLwHFp6qCdmKUfx5O+dxfqj4SaVyiU7jK U+Wa+nKCkwTRZXrVapPeYSpnuaF+PqTXPmuDc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=C6P4QOHUGVdprsbf203maDcm+te5j1f1lYyATQWoh5DSdrlqWssnzXyMiMFKFnNYQI haGjSNCnrh7G0tI1H0E/j9FGc4klk9UydAzl+fiw+ELgktiINf01min5bP3hz3Y/YMo9 +esyHeVWwLwxmdWcUsGE4ls0lmJr6XtbtspUs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:17:22 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911110417m788fe30bvf7aada52216a1d85@mail.gmail.com> Subject: STick looping video From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I found a good Stick looping video: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=55955269 To me one great attraction of the Stick is that this instrument's doesn't necessarily need a looping device to let you improvise multi part arrangements on the fly. When you don't have to use looping constantly you become able to use a flowing tempo, another thing I like a lot. Each one of the two string sets have its own pickup an output that lets you play two amp rigs or two completely different effect pedalboards. I think Greg Howard shows off all these great things with the Stick in this live clip. Maybe it is be more accurate to call this video "Stick Playing With Looping" rather than "Stick Looping" ? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 11 13:05:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F4633BE73; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:05:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TMJ6GISIiqO7qG6ByXK5+dDkK9MoA4TU5Q7IAS/VU3Y=; b=cDMBakhpoCJ30YiXotAqX/9GCfP8Q9mCu8hHICnvbxTS2VPOoBfMNxAPXEEl6kVVY5 1U2bEoU4WoO+kTBqGW69D1LZQNN2FhWXpkVsdiSO7kZaGOOClDrmIYN8hzR+JNhs53g9 v6om9JrVoRFXuPhRYc5GhMjwZHPWvtFYeqaE4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=proN7mn6QtxonoQR2O1S3vfSd03kQqvlV6YlRC6yvqjM3QAbkiZTuzEUmPfcmgi3Om 9ngMQQGFgLJEsFq2D9GiCbW06n4z8IAhmpAVeZKl+JmA8dPdEJ2o4VWZ8KTQ0F1PYHrb VSb9ojH6mgPhoLuBE0cOkv0LASOXQwfyKBR9U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911110417m788fe30bvf7aada52216a1d85@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0911110417m788fe30bvf7aada52216a1d85@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:05:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: STick looping video From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151758b3b0879cef04781814ba Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:05:27 +0000 (UTC) --00151758b3b0879cef04781814ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Interesting ! fabio www.eterogeneo.com 2009/11/11 Per Boysen > Hi, > > I found a good Stick looping video: > > http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=55955269 > > To me one great attraction of the Stick is that this instrument's > doesn't necessarily need a looping device to let you improvise multi > part arrangements on the fly. When you don't have to use looping > constantly you become able to use a flowing tempo, another thing I > like a lot. Each one of the two string sets have its own pickup an > output that lets you play two amp rigs or two completely different > effect pedalboards. I think Greg Howard shows off all these great > things with the Stick in this live clip. Maybe it is be more accurate > to call this video "Stick Playing With Looping" rather than "Stick > Looping" ? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --00151758b3b0879cef04781814ba Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Interesting !
=A0
fabio
www.eterogeneo.com
2009/11/11 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Hi,

I found a good Stick = looping video:
http://vids.my= space.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=3Dvids.individual&videoid=3D55955269=

To me one great attraction of the Stick is that this instrument'sdoesn't necessarily need a looping device to let you improvise multi<= br>part arrangements on the fly. When you don't have to use looping
constantly you become able to use a flowing tempo, another thing I
like = a lot. Each one of the two string sets have its own pickup an
output tha= t lets you play two amp rigs or two completely different
effect pedalboa= rds. I think Greg Howard shows off all these great
things with the Stick in this live clip. Maybe it is be more accurate
to= call this video "Stick Playing With Looping" rather than "S= tick
Looping" ?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boyse= n.se
www.per= boysen.com


--00151758b3b0879cef04781814ba-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 11 13:58:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 244B23BE71; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:58:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:58:47 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <12756227-EE97-4521-835C-4CA2F5F9B708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091111135847.322120@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7334ca1b0911080644y1f21bf38o70a2cf15c8c7c7aa@mail.gmail.com> <12A6D8D3-4B49-40B2-A508-54042EF8CFA7@zonemobius.com> <20091110074259.255650@gmx.net> <12756227-EE97-4521-835C-4CA2F5F9B708@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Audio to MIDI converter for individual drum tracks sensitive to velocity (windows platform) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/PfwJwIvvPkwEbTFm/kjissdjt4vRFVdrH18tgm9 T5WALbhy5bxgcVPrj0UH/guQPZHaOkttfcAg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: RLefOrwcZCEEesdhnm0higJ4IGhpZQZi X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:58:50 +0000 (UTC) Hi Fabio > It also seems to have a limited memory, so sometimes you can't load > samples for each pad. > For what it costs it's a lot of fun. For 200-380$ ? It'd better be really good... best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 11 14:10:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7834F3BE75; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:10:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:09:57 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911060711led343edieb30216c1b04c8bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091111140957.322080@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> <93394767-2775-4509-9D63-35CC2583C7EB@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911060711led343edieb30216c1b04c8bd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping with albeton live To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/jwBhA2Nzj3ALGLWXoNX8gTvG266wrbpmDCPrpjS 8NIEweYjRS2qx58YTw8sLARc9c+5glQFH78g== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: 06GSB+scbHIhetsjwjU0u0YiJihyahBS X-FuHaFi: 0.72 Resent-Message-ID: <5J4ZoC.A.moG.6Ws-KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:10:02 +0000 (UTC) When going into software looping, the main question for me was Ableton vs. Mobius: Structurally, I am looping in a way similar to Ableton, yet, I'd like to have the powerful looping features of Mobius, too. So, I have decided to use Mainstage + Mobius and am quite happy with it. In fact, with my recent Mobius scripts, Mobius behaves more and more like Ableton, i.e. switching "scenes" with multiple loops... :-) best regards Buzap -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3.5 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 11 14:27:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F17D03BE78; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Subject: Re: looping with albeton live From: Chris Sewell X-Priority: 3 In-reply-to: <20091111140957.322080@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:26:36 -0500 Message-id: References: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> <93394767-2775-4509-9D63-35CC2583C7EB@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911060711led343edieb30216c1b04c8bd@mail.gmail.com> <20091111140957.322080@gmx.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:27:11 +0000 (UTC) I have been experimenting using both. Ableton's looper sets the tempo beautifully pretty much every time. If I need more options, I have mobius set up on another send. Mobius sometimes makes Ableton a little unstable and I have yet to try this onstage, but it works pretty well. I love Mainstage and how it sounds, but I am getting pops and cpu spikes still, which makes me mental. Maybe when I upgrade to 4 gig Macbook. :) On Nov 11, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > When going into software looping, the main question for me was > Ableton vs. Mobius: Structurally, I am looping in a way similar to > Ableton, yet, I'd like to have the powerful looping features of > Mobius, too. > > So, I have decided to use Mainstage + Mobius and am quite happy with > it. > In fact, with my recent Mobius scripts, Mobius behaves more and more > like Ableton, i.e. switching "scenes" with multiple loops... :-) > > best regards > Buzap > -- > Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla > Firefox 3.5 - > sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 11 14:41:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70CA83BE78; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:41:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <22061.65.48.1257950514.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:41:54 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Soundtrack for the next Loopers Delight movie From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:41:55 +0000 (UTC) Hi Sjaak, Great dreamy sound. Love your choice of sounds. This is something I'm trying to get with my nylon and effects. Thanks for sharing, Andre On Mon, November 9, 2009 7:31 pm, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > I can be a relieve to play an instrument, press the record button, > playing simple notes and chords and feel good. Nothing special but I > like it, a kind of Sylvian soundtrack. Enjoy :) > > http://euroloopfest.com/premonitionfactory/demos/02_Piano_voices.mp3 > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > > Andre Donawa Barbados Guitar School Woodside Gardens Bay St. St. Michael Barbados 11157 Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) 246 436 8294 (School) http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 11 14:53:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4CFC3BE79; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <23275.65.48.1257951223.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <003701ca61f4$6906faa0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <003701ca61f4$6906faa0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:53:43 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: two chords after midnight From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi Michael, Sweet track. I've got this and Sjaak's in my CD player to chill me out for my last hour before I go into Dreamland. Love the vocal element. I wish I had spent some more time checking out your setup. I'm trying to get away from my external mixing board. What do you use to get from your guitar to the audio interface? Andre On Tue, November 10, 2009 6:56 am, Michael Peters wrote: > two evenings ago I played a little guitar before going to bed. This is one > of the takes, a quiet improv over two chords, with the midified guitar > also > triggering voice samples. Enjoy > http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/2chordsaftermidnight.m > p3 > > -Michael > www.michaelpeters.de > > > > Andre Donawa Barbados Guitar School Woodside Gardens Bay St. St. Michael Barbados 11157 Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) 246 436 8294 (School) http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 11 14:53:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BA403BE81; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AFAD01E.4030204@het.it> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:54:22 +0100 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: [Fwd: Re: Soundtrack for the next Loopers Delight movie] Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------060705070902090909050105" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:53:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060705070902090909050105 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ah Sjaak! very very good! like a breath of fresh air looking at the iceland while dreaming in the forest!
;-) you are great!
Max Liver

Sjaak Overgaauw ha scritto:
> I can be a relieve to play an instrument, press the record button,
> playing simple notes and chords and feel good. Nothing special but I
> like it, a kind of Sylvian soundtrack. Enjoy :)
>
> http://euroloopfest.com/premonitionfactory/demos/02_Piano_voices.mp3
>
>   



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Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:45:55 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > I love Mainstage and how it sounds, but I am getting pops and cpu spikes > still, which makes me mental. Maybe when I upgrade to 4 gig Macbook. :) Hi Chris, I use Mainstage and Mobius with a standard 2008 white Macbook with 4 gb of memory. A few tips on how to minimize pops and cpu spikes: Upgrade your audio card drivers to the latest version. Also, make sure you use the right buffersize. This depends on how much CPU is used by the plugins you use. For example, the fantastic Delay Designer can be cpu hungry. Start with 64 and increase it to 128, 256 or 512 when the CPU load is too high. Before I start a live set, I always cycle thru my Mainstage patches twice; this way the patches are actually activated and that usually avoids pops or spikes when you switch patches after it. Also, make sure you check the preference "Silence Previous Patch" which is the amount of time sustained notes and effects tails continue to sound before falling to silence when you select a new patch. I use a setting of 60 seconds and that gives delays enough time to end nicely. Hope this helps. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 11 17:50:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFF303BE77; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zASODLpnbb+omlCCWocKYL/VSa8T7rD388jh1Fm4IMY=; b=kUsBdhnjLBclkuhENSQZ5APy/B4FL8BRy/oKMJPl3+uFRGbahTnzJ43It69ywDUUau HiODnqlMTXpnjdqRkbeAOoOEutdCkioIPxuAEMmrshZKzFPC9GPzShR29hIXJWCTaP7B mFw38k8navRttinBNgcs9qE9cBFfmiUiw3Amg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Jg1mlet/Fuh2+0wbldHPIZaz2S9xbFR3gsRAAnW24YDkWOOFwJSlGr2Ysc/CkuRQI2 YqiypuD4yPxFHHRJoZnqGBgi7pX02yBJKvOPECro2pH8xBLCO7iay2g6a991Gw8wsaou V7nN95VbQ5X2hVIywSxUTzq5VzsPIyCokX/Yo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:50:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cd1625cede104781c0f70 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:50:21 +0000 (UTC) --0015175cd1625cede104781c0f70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks, Fro. Your performance touched me Good Luck fabio www.eterogeneo.com 2009/11/9 FRO DIDDLY > Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever knowledge they > contributed over the past 2 years- > > Here are 2 videos- > > "The Sermon" > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_jjoVO9Jzw > > "How you waste it" > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brZp4tMcsmA > > > since im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspire you all- > dont focus on the gear- > simply focus on the message and ask yourself if your music makes the world > a better place- > if not, then whats the point? > > > im goin on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead of hiding > behind my song or lyric- > dunno when ill be back- > > good luck everyone > > fro > > > ------------------------------ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up > now. > --0015175cd1625cede104781c0f70 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks, Fro. Your performance touched me
Good Luck
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fabio
www.eterogeneo.com

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2009/11/9 FRO DIDDLY <parispro00@hotmail.com><= br>
Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever knowledge they cont= ributed over the past 2 years-

Here are 2 videos-

"The S= ermon"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw

"How you waste it"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4t= McsmA


since im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspir= e you all-
dont focus on the gear-
simply focus on the message and ask yourself if = your music makes the world a better place-
if not, then whats the point?=


im goin on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly inste= ad of hiding behind my song or lyric-
dunno when ill be back-

good luck everyone

fro



Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.

--0015175cd1625cede104781c0f70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 11 17:57:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0518E3BE77; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=W0mNcAVmmpUiS5krXkvBxuuQVt9/EwnWNNO0bJ7X8j8=; b=iefOTAYawFXcH+1V1ioT2YDdM8tH93p23a4/wPcleFaSarlnERemSJ9GR+7FYbYUq5 oy8ZjQmOSAVIx4hZ/vxoHO7YwIsfZTrLuQtpLvHs4TMZYycvkIbQjc/ZAXBG59zwwFHH 0IMby1S2reE1N4fVuRRNYv/NOVJD/gYVv+yVc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YxUr0vw8FZDZngspdfq8fWy04W26ZYboVr3Tjgl5Ue87+7GIPzAEWyeJYAjjO0FSPd nStDJt1GbvHZBQzXxTpNOUq1ZkU47q+WNX72+xwnFkAZFsJQbyqyUEzqDxkaQ+PjFwE0 41GqvKJMGN9NlWhZJNmoGkfYxG/Y4fWBYEWZ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:57:25 -0800 Message-ID: <3fa302e30911110957y6364260bs40a13710eb49d60a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502e1ceca359004781c2829 Resent-Message-ID: <09Q-a.A.qt.Hsv-KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:57:28 +0000 (UTC) --00504502e1ceca359004781c2829 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 FRO . . . after listening to both pieces, all I can say is YES, it's making a difference and YES, you ARE making your point eloquently and positively and inspirationally. All the best in your travels! Come back with some new stories and reflections . . . Peace, -miko 2009/11/9 FRO DIDDLY > >> Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever knowledge they >> contributed over the past 2 years- >> >> Here are 2 videos- >> >> "The Sermon" >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_jjoVO9Jzw >> >> "How you waste it" >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brZp4tMcsmA >> >> >> since im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspire you all-dont focus >> on the gear-simply focus on the message and ask yourself if your music makes >> the world a better place-if not, then whats the point? >> >> >> im goin on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead of >> hiding behind my song or lyric-dunno when ill be back- >> >> good luck everyone >> >> fro >> > -- Mikko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" --00504502e1ceca359004781c2829 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FRO . . . after listening to both pieces, all I can say is YES, it's ma= king a difference and YES, you ARE making your point eloquently and positiv= ely and inspirationally.=A0 All the best in your travels! Come back with so= me new stories and reflections . . . Peace, -miko

2009/11/9 FRO DIDDLY <parisp= ro00@hotmail.com>
Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever knowledge they cont= ributed over the past 2 years-

Here are 2 videos-

"The S= ermon"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw

"How you waste it"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4t= McsmA


since im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspir= e you all-dont focus on the gear-simply focus on the message and ask yourse= lf if your music makes the world a better place-if not, then whats the poin= t?


im goin on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead o= f hiding behind my song or lyric-dunno when ill be back-

good luck e= veryone

fro

--
Mikko Biffle
Biffoz@Gmail.com
http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz<= /a>
"Running scared from all the usual distractions!"
--00504502e1ceca359004781c2829-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 11 20:50:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7112A3BE75; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9vqvivPaYoUvm3CH2gCNyGv6TGVW0ZPEQwnNDrF7L1w=; b=g5rRxW9TWuc7tCLbmgcv4VpbxAjXJ92ap6TO12kRaLWbl83Mj2fTwU5Bv3B0PhUibH lw3bvIL5VdHfw8TSoNytG1lYJBSVYxrZrNnS3fHe8YUJ4F4cB9OhKXgZ788OgLN+brAj TJe1Tnw0sf3U53KI0XhcPIHr4R0OsAz1oJfDE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YjKd8tNT/MMYyuYsGwQaCZqXOQt/nyj80auL5zb8e0lfEUBrVbu54D3fHJJaIeKm19 jKR/gBmd2/HZrgFb+9sZkJMT5ao+o8R1ZVQ/U4VxwkP7jFyeFgTz+H/1BwR9tSHMDDr0 ZbLLo+N+exp5ewpp8rek3nnwGW1aZIA+qlYo0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <23275.65.48.1257951223.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <003701ca61f4$6906faa0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <23275.65.48.1257951223.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:50:55 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60911111250rf13713bj7cb9d0155c302835@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: two chords after midnight From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174784f0486a5204781e957f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:50:59 +0000 (UTC) --0015174784f0486a5204781e957f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael I meant to write yesterday when I heard it and got distracted but I would echo Andre's thoughts, your piece and Sjaak's were like twin sons of different mothers kind of thing, very dreamy, simple in structure yet quite emotive and powerful. Excellent felt work on both parts guys... jim On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Andr=E9 Donawa wro= te: > Hi Michael, > > Sweet track. > I've got this and Sjaak's in my CD player to chill me out for my last hou= r > before I go into Dreamland. > > Love the vocal element. > I wish I had spent some more time checking out your setup. > I'm trying to get away from my external mixing board. > What do you use to get from your guitar to the audio interface? > > Andre > > On Tue, November 10, 2009 6:56 am, Michael Peters wrote: > > two evenings ago I played a little guitar before going to bed. This is > one > > of the takes, a quiet improv over two chords, with the midified guitar > > also > > triggering voice samples. Enjoy > > > http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/2chordsaftermidnigh= t.m > > p3 > > > > -Michael > > www.michaelpeters.de > > > > > > > > > > > Andre Donawa > Barbados Guitar School > Woodside Gardens > Bay St. > St. Michael > Barbados > 11157 > Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) > 246 436 8294 (School) > > http://www.barbadosguitar.com > http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa > http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa > > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0015174784f0486a5204781e957f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Michael I meant to write yesterday when I heard it and got distracted = but I would echo Andre's thoughts, your piece and Sjaak's were like= twin sons of different mothers kind of thing, very dreamy, simple in struc= ture yet quite emotive and powerful.=A0 Excellent felt work on both parts g= uys...
=A0
jim

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Andr=E9 Donawa = <andre@andred= onawa.com> wrote:
Hi Michael,

Sweet track.<= br>I've got this and Sjaak's in my CD player to chill me out for my= last hour
before I go into Dreamland.

Love the vocal element.
I wish I had = spent some more time checking out your setup.
I'm trying to get away= from my external mixing board.
What do you use to get from your guitar = to the audio interface?

Andre

On Tue, November 10, 2009 6:56 am, Michael Peters wro= te:
> two evenings ago I played a little guitar before going to bed. = This is one
> of the takes, a quiet improv over two chords, with the = midified guitar
> also
> triggering voice samples. Enjoy
> http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/2chord= saftermidnight.m
> p3
>
> -Michael
> www.michaelpeters.de
>
>
>>


Andre Donawa
Barbados Guitar School
Woo= dside Gardens
Bay St.
St. Michael
Barbados
=A011157
Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office= )
=A0 =A0 246 436 8294 (School)

http://www.barbadosguitar.com
http://twitter.com/Andre= Donawa
http://www.andred= onawa.com
http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa
http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa=




--
ReUse, an introspec= tive textural aural
www.myspa= ce.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

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--0015174784f0486a5204781e957f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 11 21:55:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B9983BE75; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:55:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: richard sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60911111250rf13713bj7cb9d0155c302835@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-496451470 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: two chords after midnight Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:55:25 -0800 References: <003701ca61f4$6906faa0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <23275.65.48.1257951223.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <9e0440a60911111250rf13713bj7cb9d0155c302835@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:55:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-496451470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll second that! R richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On Nov 11, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Michael I meant to write yesterday when I heard it and got > distracted but I would echo Andre's thoughts, your piece and Sjaak's > were like twin sons of different mothers kind of thing, very dreamy, > simple in structure yet quite emotive and powerful. Excellent felt > work on both parts guys... > > jim > --Apple-Mail-3-496451470 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll second = that!

R
richard sales
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
=
On Nov 11, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:

Michael= I meant to write yesterday when I heard it and got distracted but I = would echo Andre's thoughts, your piece and Sjaak's were like twin sons = of different mothers kind of thing, very dreamy, simple in structure yet = quite emotive and powerful.  Excellent felt work on both parts = guys...
 
jim

=








= --Apple-Mail-3-496451470-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 11 23:33:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3AC43BE71; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=M1XlnQMcGHTnIE6YMdKqYqfQPkWEmPDDnazsH7wPPzU=; b=p3k5Wv7r0gX34fgP7xeybZlJi5XE5nhJs4gOYu+kiZ8+ig9p9m5XJc69LS6aIWkTy6 IsRtmU8BCBBt3YcWHXf3s81cJXgeZRwsPLAeoE2Jf1DfqEP58sgiLqqaeSsl/H8MwiZD hKGhTtH7Oa7H6pV3r9WyiaqPS4BDdbW1bstgI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Fj/Et7OuA39bj0cd22+6J0vxlDVcWK2DV9fjXzV7GFSqvBFORFYMIu++q2uzKkwOjs jlVBV319g1qjNFpumgOYEf11cknYl0D4ZFstekUuk6J6c/EzgWexB4ZDyGXfE5wreQZ1 JQ+QsNm8B/pW8e4BODFNd9yvyrJdu8rB5Zdnc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> <93394767-2775-4509-9D63-35CC2583C7EB@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911060711led343edieb30216c1b04c8bd@mail.gmail.com> <20091111140957.322080@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:33:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: looping with albeton live From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d9710220d623047820da0a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:33:22 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d9710220d623047820da0a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ... a 60 seconds tail to change patches will not tax cpu heavily, sjaak? 2009/11/11 Sjaak Overgaauw > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > > I love Mainstage and how it sounds, but I am getting pops and cpu spikes > > still, which makes me mental. Maybe when I upgrade to 4 gig Macbook. :) > > Hi Chris, > I use Mainstage and Mobius with a standard 2008 white Macbook with 4 > gb of memory. A few tips on how to minimize pops and cpu spikes: > Upgrade your audio card drivers to the latest version. Also, make sure > you use the right buffersize. This depends on how much CPU is used by > the plugins you use. For example, the fantastic Delay Designer can be > cpu hungry. Start with 64 and increase it to 128, 256 or 512 when the > CPU load is too high. > > Before I start a live set, I always cycle thru my Mainstage patches > twice; this way the patches are actually activated and that usually > avoids pops or spikes when you switch patches after it. Also, make > sure you check the preference "Silence Previous Patch" which is the > amount of time sustained notes and effects tails continue to sound > before falling to silence when you select a new patch. I use a setting > of 60 seconds and that gives delays enough time to end nicely. Hope > this helps. > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d9710220d623047820da0a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... a 60 seconds tail to change patches will not tax cpu heavily, sjaak?
2009/11/11 Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com>
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
> I love Mainstage and how it sounds, but I am getting pops and cpu spik= es
> still, which makes me mental. Maybe when I upgrade to 4 gig Macbook. := )

Hi Chris,
I use Mainstage and Mobius with a standard 2008 white Macbook with 4
gb of memory. A few tips on how to minimize pops and cpu spikes:
Upgrade your audio card drivers to the latest version. Also, make sure
you use the right buffersize. This depends on how much CPU is used by
the plugins you use. For example, the fantastic Delay Designer can be
cpu hungry. Start with 64 and increase it to 128, 256 or 512 when the
CPU load is too high.

Before I start a live set, I always cycle thru my Mainstage patches
twice; this way the patches are actually activated and that usually
avoids pops or spikes when you switch patches after it. Also, make
sure you check the preference "Silence Previous Patch" which is t= he
amount of time sustained notes and effects tails continue to sound
before falling to silence when you select a new patch. I use a setting
of 60 seconds and that gives delays enough time to end nicely. Hope
this helps.
--
Sjaak Overgaauw
http://premoni= tionfactory.com/
http://livelooping.be/=
http://euroloopfest.= com/




--
Raul Bonell at B= logger: http://raulbonell.blogsp= ot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

--0016e6d9710220d623047820da0a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 11 23:48:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E32483BE75; Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:48:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nNwyYKSdJssWrp72TQk+LGhF7rv3OZ9+f5gm/6uoecs=; b=Icw2xqNBAJuT7iR4x06Cy3VWK5Ls4fmDvYmgmAvcdcAPvvx6RMNiVKvUtvQdL8opJw eNvFhoIcB4+xjCoWpsCGhJklcmfbDOQCV/p8W1M3ZlEUsCcjr4wbQtnh/JWx+mSby6c2 NHuIV+ROpiP/ovzUvpMnab5S7cEJHPKSIXTOg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=e0RXkVjAtX9ZDxfL8lc6WIu6b889gaZF/O7LfriGL7bD8qpvIZe8KASLRtR+sjBMJV xvQ+F51bNMIgjuJRYrRlWZotrqlM5Xm1nQcAlvtoxv1ymDp5HaznZJBqz0G0BtSh/ZwH TmKpbC50VbXybfJHZPPV1sBIILC9wNsbq8sZo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> <93394767-2775-4509-9D63-35CC2583C7EB@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911060711led343edieb30216c1b04c8bd@mail.gmail.com> <20091111140957.322080@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:48:12 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911111548m3110271rb743112d25c76d97@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping with albeton live From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:48:13 +0000 (UTC) 60 seconds does not tax the CPU more than 5 seconds (my setting). Not more, but longer ;-) I do not like the way Apple has implemented this in Mainstage. IMHO they should have done it the way you can do it if using Bidule as the host: the software "listens" to the old patch and mutes it when it goes silent. I like very much to jump around between patches and play only one or two notes with each patch sound. This works very well in Bidule because on the shorter tail patches the old patch gets muted almost the moment I go for a new sound - while in Mainstage every damn patch stays open for 5 seconds even if it doesn't have a long tail. Because of this I can't use that technique so much wiht Mainstage. Different host applications for looping is just like having many guitars; each one does something particularly well but no one is ultimately universal. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > ... a 60 seconds tail to change patches will not tax cpu heavily, sjaak? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 12 00:12:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 566BF3BE77; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-id: <9491C740-3700-4269-B557-AE96CB056EEA@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Sewell Subject: Apogee Duet vs. Motu Ultralite Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:11:35 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:12:16 +0000 (UTC) So I picked up an Apogee Duet this week. It does sound really, really good. I did some back to back tests with my Ultralite. It has a much more full sound, with tighter lows and a nice warmth too it. Very impressive sound. Its nice to have a control panel for it right in Logic and Mainstage. The breakout cable doesn't bother me much, you're gonna have cables connected to it anyway, so it's not that big a deal. I miss having a midi interface built in. I would imagine the Duet II will include this. The only real problem I have with it is when using it with Ableton, I'm getting some pretty crazy latency issues. It defaults to 512 samples in the buffer when you first connect it, and I was experiencing latency of good 1/2 second. Bringing it down to 256 didn't make a difference initially. I then have to unplug the Duet, then turn it back on, and restart Live for the change to kick in. It then improved greatly. But adding devices to a channel sometimes would knock back out of the setting. Although the buffer remained, the long lag would reappear, requiring another restart. Very weird. I made sure the drivers were the latest versions, but this still occurs. I was getting frustrated so I plugged the Ultralite back in, thinking I would return the Duet. I immediatly missed the sound of the Duet. I don't think I can go back. Does any one have any idea why it seems so sensitive to any changes I make in Ableton? Thanks Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 12 00:54:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9C063BE80; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kZdm+JTtf8QYIXJ40G1ApWJAM2pMn23hUUnITKYG+Qw=; b=XEAvxHOidG9gUUug/hJoajjZiTEZdf1vux/VHomCmK7yC+ioUphPlwdZ+BaOJpvZON Nu63dxYiBZLfnMsR5u3c352zwalOfvPhhAWt3VkldgNUkTCfkSlYxmWJQxKAfoJXvPEm 0cjyOg0xahT0czEqeQ41P9+4aAqxfPK7mU6+c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CXarve7SoNw9v+1ZAlxn/L260nf1BTia5tMED6mY6rS9U8ZrN04GE6uBLaAFwnWX7q 1oELeorYjWKQkwVnBvpeJz98Pm/DkcVVh8xATZiAUP4Bzn9HiXvQr6x/Qx8YnFvs0Doh B7wjL6X0hgjQ2h0ctDLlNYVlLcP1mm/zGPjDk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911111548m3110271rb743112d25c76d97@mail.gmail.com> References: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> <93394767-2775-4509-9D63-35CC2583C7EB@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911060711led343edieb30216c1b04c8bd@mail.gmail.com> <20091111140957.322080@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0911111548m3110271rb743112d25c76d97@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:54:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: looping with albeton live From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99d7e2f50b6047821fb64 Resent-Message-ID: <19UHbB.A.c1C.zy1-KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:54:11 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d99d7e2f50b6047821fb64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 oh well, longer. i want to mean the app will have to be processing both patches during those 60 sec. and retaining enough ram for the two. tricky in a live situation. specially our poor macbooks, which need lots of ram for graphics. i commented since sjaak was advising how to save computational resources. i'm about to see the macbook fly when using mainstage, you can stop that fun fan! ... 2009/11/12 Per Boysen > 60 seconds does not tax the CPU more than 5 seconds (my setting). Not > more, but longer ;-) I do not like the way Apple has implemented this > in Mainstage. IMHO they should have done it the way you can do it if > using Bidule as the host: the software "listens" to the old patch and > mutes it when it goes silent. > > I like very much to jump around between patches and play only one or > two notes with each patch sound. This works very well in Bidule > because on the shorter tail patches the old patch gets muted almost > the moment I go for a new sound - while in Mainstage every damn patch > stays open for 5 seconds even if it doesn't have a long tail. Because > of this I can't use that technique so much wiht Mainstage. Different > host applications for looping is just like having many guitars; each > one does something particularly well but no one is ultimately > universal. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Raul Bonell > wrote: > > ... a 60 seconds tail to change patches will not tax cpu heavily, sjaak? > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d99d7e2f50b6047821fb64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oh well, longer. i want to mean the app will have to be processing both pat= ches during those 60 sec. and retaining enough ram for the two. tricky in a= live situation. specially our poor macbooks, which need lots of ram for gr= aphics. i commented since sjaak was advising how to save computational reso= urces. i'm about to see the macbook fly when using mainstage, you can s= top that fun fan! ...

2009/11/12 Per Boysen <= perboysen@gmail.com>
60 seconds does not tax the CPU more than 5 seconds (my setting). Not
more, but longer ;-) =A0I do not like the way Apple has implemented this in Mainstage. IMHO they should have done it the way you can do it if
using Bidule as the host: the software "listens" to the old patch= and
mutes it when it goes silent.

I like very much to jump around between patches and play only one or
two notes with each patch sound. This works very well in Bidule
because on the shorter tail patches the old patch gets muted almost
the moment I go for a new sound - while in Mainstage every damn patch
stays open for 5 seconds even if it doesn't have a long tail. Because of this I can't use that technique so much wiht Mainstage. Different host applications for looping is just like having many guitars; each
one does something particularly well but no one is ultimately
universal.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:33 AM, R= aul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.c= om> wrote:
> ... a 60 seconds tail to change patches will not tax cpu heavily, sjaa= k?




--
Raul Bonell= at Blogger: http://raulbonell.b= logspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 12 01:49:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 399D33BE77; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:subject :mime-version:date:references; bh=qkWDOPY7R6cc2oth55zggulONAo7mLnVMHm7gLNcAUg=; b=U/cm4p0/v6CdlBQ/mCqMDkTzM97yhPW/N5Ue+rGLRSrympjIejlIclJVgCCfeIoZvV bijIBTi9OUrShWvQfnzg3LwN6oX8+tztQUXRsfrCUeU/Yn4cTEPYlogtERcxY9t5oAEY 50WiD+3fOpfc4rRnW+Xrs0oQldRSOAQt17aCc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:subject:mime-version:date :references; b=PG4s1UN7a2OFlvgXLABNGLByzzFBff3UslWHtP6z2VfOcxCJd5TLjZEro9Y3CYOR+8 2POyB37/1OUMQ3N40M91TkD0nVRZeFsjew1F2xna8j65QfCGRiHr/c3aA21alIE7z+wO HrzpSFZ628WTfkkrTE8wp3yZClmVvkiJ/ynoY= Message-Id: <277BC849-93DF-46F0-AE56-D9A70470E67A@gmail.com> From: eterogeneo To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <20091111135847.322120@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7C144) Subject: Re: Audio to MIDI converter for individual drum tracks sensitive to velocity (windows platform) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7C144) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:48:35 +0100 References: <7334ca1b0911080644y1f21bf38o70a2cf15c8c7c7aa@mail.gmail.com> <12A6D8D3-4B49-40B2-A508-54042EF8CFA7@zonemobius.com> <20091110074259.255650@gmx.net> <12756227-EE97-4521-835C-4CA2F5F9B708@gmail.com> <20091111135847.322120@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Hi Buzap, I didn't pay too much attention to your e.mail..., I was talking about =20= the iPhone app that's named iGog. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Fabio Il giorno 11/nov/2009, alle ore 14.58, "Buzap Buzap" =20 ha scritto: > Hi Fabio > >> It also seems to have a limited memory, so sometimes you can't load >> samples for each pad. >> For what it costs it's a lot of fun. > > For 200-380$ ? > It'd better be really good... > > best regards > Buzap > --=20 > GRATIS f=C3=BCr alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 12 03:01:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F3EE3BE79; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:01:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Sjaak Overgaauw'" , References: Subject: RE: Soundtrack for the next Loopers Delight movie Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:01:49 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpiJyZxQ5dnp1VLTeusuT5KdAw5KwBGSPAA In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:01:54 +0000 (UTC) Very nice, this does feel very relaxing and meditative, Soundtrack for "Loopers Delight" "The Movie"???? Yeah let's do it!!! Perhaps this would work for the "love scene" which incidentally, I'm hoping to get the part of the male lead, not that I'm lobbying for the role or anything.......but if I do get the part, I will definitely suggest this for the love scene, which will be when the male lead (me hopefully, fingers crossed), wins the Lottery, goes in to the best music store in the world, buys every instrument and gizmo in the world he's ever wanted and multiples for his friends (this scene is in slow motion),afterwards, he buys his lovely wife a new car, perhaps a Honda fit, buys two round the world airline tickets, better yet, charters a private jet, and sets off around the continent and the world to visit and play with his looping pals and distribute the afore mentioned gear. It's a feel good Movie the whole family can enjoy. Bill / From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 12 03:03:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB7AF3BE77; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=BYn49d96Kh6Odn2KBN8QuPX5d2+FPskTsZ+yGtOxpWY=; b=f33rMceG4cV2+xigIZLGuZQ7Jt7aCfL7SfKbT39WFGfiNz4xc2ebaGjOUmuRdE45dA m3LEXLhwKcqFhqxDO9vwez9Wm0+zWNffnOWWpMqOckA/32/2JhlwykPvOLRSeZMumzyl 2CJdRu6Fv3/GMygzBLUJn8SRWAe9OXyqNwCTM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=n177b9BZ6ewhPGA9bcEUNNYPysP6G/z7cf5+n+uMyKA3FfE6TlK0RTLfdtvkMrkqu8 mfC+d+/MBslFyJRzS6vjaDehLXsp+l5J4JlSBkrQFTToh2pCZh4BSdHTKzo6CnRhvL5q ieQKnSwtjgqQ6IQzGs0IuYd3t8RG9G+eHy6jk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:03:27 -0800 Message-ID: <3fa302e30911111903v4ece5a03i176e9de42fbc023b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: Lunar Asylum, "Time Travels" From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64e576e87778c047823c969 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:28 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64e576e87778c047823c969 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was having this troubling post-prog-improv nightmare, wondering how Van Der Graff became obscenely coupled with both Subotnik and Hatfield=97and couldn't close my eyes, seeing strange objects floating, morhping then disappearing before me. Then I realized I was awake and had drifted of whil= e watching NW Austin's new video collaboration with The Lunar Asylum . . . I can't honestly say there's a looper actually in play mode in this track, bu= t there usually IS. I can barely tell who's playing what . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsrpQnfC3ktQ Peace --=20 Mikko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" --0016e64e576e87778c047823c969 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was having this troubling post-prog-improv nightmare, wondering how Van D= er Graff became obscenely coupled with both Subotnik and Hatfield=97and cou= ldn't close my eyes, seeing strange objects floating, morhping then dis= appearing before me. Then I realized I was awake and had drifted of while w= atching NW Austin's new video collaboration with The Lunar Asylum . . .= I can't honestly say there's a looper actually in play mode in thi= s track, but there usually IS. I can barely tell who's playing what . .= .

= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsrpQnfC3ktQ

Peace
--
Mik= ko Biffle
Biffoz@Gmail.com
http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz
"Running scared from all the usual distractions!"
--0016e64e576e87778c047823c969-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 12 03:33:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7ACF33BE78; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Michael Peters'" , References: <003701ca61f4$6906faa0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: RE: two chords after midnight Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:33:05 -0800 Message-ID: <7B965E4B954E483199605F365BA0AF3B@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA6305.CD9571B0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acpi4hw4DxhN1+tmS6eKnt74UiRZ7gAY9qmA In-Reply-To: <003701ca61f4$6906faa0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:33:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA6305.CD9571B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You are doing really cool things with guitar synth Michael, and synth sound design. Love the vocal-guitar sound I enjoyed this. Bill _____ From: Michael Peters [mailto:mp@mpeters.de] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:56 AM To: Loopers Delight Subject: two chords after midnight two evenings ago I played a little guitar before going to bed. This is one of the takes, a quiet improv over two chords, with the midified guitar also triggering voice samples. Enjoy http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/2chordsaftermidnight.m p3 -Michael www.michaelpeters.de ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA6305.CD9571B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

You are doing really cool things = with guitar synth Michael, and synth sound design. Love the vocal-guitar sound  =  I enjoyed this.

Bill

 


From: = Michael Peters [mailto:mp@mpeters.de]
Sent: Tuesday, November = 10, 2009 2:56 AM
To: Loopers Delight
Subject: two chords after = midnight

 

two evenings ago I played a little guitar before going to bed. This is one = of the takes, a quiet improv over two chords, with the midified guitar also = triggering voice samples. Enjoy
http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/2cho= rdsaftermidnight.mp3
=

-Michael
www.michaelpeters.de

 

------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA6305.CD9571B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 12 05:35:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F2DF3BE77; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "Tim Thompson" To: "'FRO DIDDLY'" , References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:35:25 -0800 Message-ID: <4c06901ca6359$f10b76e0$d32264a0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcphcaWKT7cP8BkUQHCSBzNGcoabvwB56xTQ Content-Language: en-us x-cr-puzzleid: {662C80A2-A86D-431A-BC3B-AE0361E46B2A} x-cr-hashedpuzzle: Anjs BXVq Ef8w JzqH KUbP LAUo LuoL MPAg MTyT OSWq Ot77 P1S5 QyLR StzH WMcE WMrd;2;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtADsAcABhAHIAaQBzAHAAcgBvADAAMABAAGgAbwB0AG0AYQBpAGwALgBjAG8AbQA=;Sosha1_v1;7;{662C80A2-A86D-431A-BC3B-AE0361E46B2A};dABqAHQAQABuAG8AcwB1AGMAaAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:35:21 GMT;UgBFADoAIABGAFIATwAgAHYAaQBkAGUAbwBzACAAZgBvAHIAIAB5AG8AdQByACAAdgBpAGUAdwBpAG4AZwAgAHAAbABlAGEAcwB1AHIAZQAtAA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:35:28 +0000 (UTC) > i hope these vids inspire you all Absolutely fabulous. Mission accomplished. ...Tim... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 12 08:16:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FDC63BE7C; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:16:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <23275.65.48.1257951223.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Subject: RE: two chords after midnight Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:16:00 +0100 Message-ID: <006001ca6370$5e7fc800$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 thread-index: Acpja9UJ2+ImK7zxT8WW7Nxk9om2kAAA6zaw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <23275.65.48.1257951223.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.1.61; VDF: 7.1.6.220) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:16:02 +0000 (UTC) > What do you use to get from your guitar to the audio interface? you know that I use the small Edirol UA-1EX audio interface ... you mean, which kind of cable I use? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 12 09:22:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CA453BE71; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:22:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 288776579/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.242.3/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.242.3 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag8BAEti+0pPRvID/2dsb2JhbAAI3CKEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,727,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="288776579" Message-ID: <4AFBD3E6.8080402@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:22:46 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Apogee Duet vs. Motu Ultralite References: <9491C740-3700-4269-B557-AE96CB056EEA@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <9491C740-3700-4269-B557-AE96CB056EEA@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:22:29 +0000 (UTC) hi Chris, I'd guess that the Duet is aimed at the recording studio rather than live playing. Ignoring the buffer size of 512, I've heard that within AD/DA converters higher latency goes with higher quality, and indeed this appears to be the case with some of my gear. As to the 512 sample thing, it's most likely a driver issue that hasn't been fixed because no-one complained to Apogee yet. I had a similar problem, although it was with a Focusrite interface on a pc, and the latest drivers fixed it right away. There's also the possibility this may be a mac thing, a couple of years ago I found out from a guy who does the drivert software for one of the larger audio hardware companies that Macs always use something called SRC( sample rate conversion) on the audio. This innovation was, afaik, brought in to facilitate the 'solving' of clock sync problems with multiple devices, ...by simply avoiding the need. Anyway, with SRC there's always a compromise between quality and latency, the calculations are rather intensive more processor power is needed as quality goes up. As with the Duet it's quality that's of ultimate importance I wonder if they simply maxed out on the SRC calculations. andy butler Chris Sewell wrote: > So I picked up an Apogee Duet this week. It does sound really, really > The only real problem I have with it is when using it with Ableton, I'm > getting some pretty crazy latency issues. It defaults to 512 samples in > the buffer when you first connect it, and I was experiencing latency of > good 1/2 second. Bringing it down to 256 didn't make a difference > initially. I then have to unplug the Duet, then turn it back on, and > restart Live for the change to kick in. It then improved greatly. But > adding devices to a channel sometimes would knock back out of the > setting. Although the buffer remained, the long lag would reappear, > requiring another restart. Very weird. I made sure the drivers were the > latest versions, but this still occurs. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 12 10:00:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D46C3BE77; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zOl7sZf9fk3g5sPXZHcPCiQVpl0lTksG+n/0o/z3DP0=; b=OXtEchYa/VOQSNbFhNgzpEkdll5tklfrErLa06PqnL3DTogXS53rdZt80HUJkIY8mJ kdg7jZcR6m756oC80M4Tu+X5ylMsbzpIjlMlZhEkbOKO8TKNqyMXkxYedV4exwtwgvW6 exhNtDxw3+xhrs9vpvJAdbYMFs+lF17pzld2s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=emRXcERgAHlfMJKji5T/V6LJtOUZGU8pc8TYciJJbiaFLnR3E+vFhMkgGjW7O3iAjH bInt9TseeoTBBtYfg5CT6U+X+AW1jiWfV2T7LBKQr8vcPtptIdXOgOwXZN90sFZChUu6 brpHE1hlQmkBA7k2/aJV3KR+z++eTSJaaxyj8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7vgnlk$4605e5@smtpout.karoo.kcom.com> <66f9cc1e0911060504g77224b3bn5e097f18f707d4c4@mail.gmail.com> <93394767-2775-4509-9D63-35CC2583C7EB@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911060711led343edieb30216c1b04c8bd@mail.gmail.com> <20091111140957.322080@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0911111548m3110271rb743112d25c76d97@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:00:53 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911120200q5acb29e4p5040c97512e06f7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping with albeton live From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:00:54 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > oh well, longer. i want to mean the app will have to be processing both > patches during those 60 sec. and retaining enough ram for the two. Not an issue. Mainstage actually pre allocates RAM for all patches within a concert when you load the concert. If your machine doesn't have enough RAM a concert with too many patches would simply not launch. ' I tried that personally and my 4 GB RAM Macbook started quitting concerts on launch at a bit above 60 patches. But then I had at least five or six plug-ins in each patch and quite a lot of sampler instruments containing long audio files; one sample for each note in a three octave range and then a second layer that doubles up the load. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 12 13:13:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9A733BE77; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:13:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <29834.65.48.1258031622.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <006001ca6370$5e7fc800$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <23275.65.48.1257951223.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <006001ca6370$5e7fc800$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:13:42 -0400 (AST) Subject: RE: two chords after midnight From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:13:43 +0000 (UTC) Yes I use the same interface based on your recommendation, but since it only has RCA connections I have to go from my guitar into the mixing board, and then into the interface. Do you go straight from your guitar into the interface with some special cable i.e. a 1/4" male to an RCA male, or are you also using a board? From what I can remember most of your live mixing was done on the lapee with the korg usb controller. Andre On Thu, November 12, 2009 4:16 am, Michael Peters wrote: >> What do you use to get from your guitar to the audio interface? > > you know that I use the small Edirol UA-1EX audio interface ... you mean, > which kind of cable I use? > > -Michael > > > > Andre Donawa Barbados Guitar School Woodside Gardens Bay St. St. Michael Barbados 11157 Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) 246 436 8294 (School) http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 12 21:44:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECFA73BE73; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:44:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AFC81C3.8020102@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:44:35 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WDIY Subject: Listen To Afterglow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:44:45 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info Tonight at 11 pm (EST/GMT-5/ITZ-5) on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Fanger and Schonwalder. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk two from "Analog Overdose - The Ricochet Dream Edition" on the Ricochet Dream label. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#nov On tonight's show, you will hear new music from the Groove Unlimited label and music by ARC (Ian Boddy and Mark Shreeve) who will be in concert this Saturday at The Gatherings. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://is.gd/37vNQ on the internet. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 13 01:04:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED4C23BE77; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=7IWVGpZJctUBDqBWBLR0QSdrEjZ05w5xqLthe4KQ888=; b=xdhm3K/+e0ehTAncyTcko4GDuOT0XK9cdFthUVQg9MbtMhk03vg0I9s/BXz06tS+YR Bh7Y6NumzGnw3lt8P/R/LPK/zBeAfTZ9YdMZsGE0SpjjBYccwNlOH5WpcSI/6gCL3Ra+ GQshGS3OhD02++35ub/uhL2Mb8rZ6VXUncj0A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=HgPcvRM2dkfUx3QR9zzemjBaowH82VuNQuopcZb8ukbto2jMWcQIJa3uYbKTElymsO caU87vNvhjl/TvVWyrnc2lKKDyxYA2JKdhp978/LvOQ6eW8vtAl69CxxEGIFR6zg/UGs 7Gv6phN6ImFRCtzmv4hkwwh9fHqTdvB3Q6zgo= Message-Id: From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9491C740-3700-4269-B557-AE96CB056EEA@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Apogee Duet vs. Motu Ultralite Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:04:33 -0500 References: <9491C740-3700-4269-B557-AE96CB056EEA@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Which version of Ableton are you using? I've been running so far at 128 without problems. (Knock on wood) Again I'm using a Macbook white (early 2009) with 4 gig ram. Are you using a similar computer? Maybe try turning off airport? Although I just ran a few tests in Ableton using looper with some of Abletons soft synths and didn't have any problems. Something sounds fishy with you having to unplug the Duet to have changes take effect. I can change the buffer setting by typing in 256, 512, 128 and the changes take effect immediately. Let me know if I can help troubleshoot since I'm a new Duet user as well. Todd On Nov 11, 2009, at 7:11 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > So I picked up an Apogee Duet this week. It does sound really, > really good. I did some back to back tests with my Ultralite. It has > a much more full sound, with tighter lows and a nice warmth too it. > Very impressive sound. Its nice to have a control panel for it right > in Logic and Mainstage. The breakout cable doesn't bother me much, > you're gonna have cables connected to it anyway, so it's not that > big a deal. I miss having a midi interface built in. I would imagine > the Duet II will include this. > The only real problem I have with it is when using it with Ableton, > I'm getting some pretty crazy latency issues. It defaults to 512 > samples in the buffer when you first connect it, and I was > experiencing latency of good 1/2 second. Bringing it down to 256 > didn't make a difference initially. I then have to unplug the Duet, > then turn it back on, and restart Live for the change to kick in. It > then improved greatly. But adding devices to a channel sometimes > would knock back out of the setting. Although the buffer remained, > the long lag would reappear, requiring another restart. Very weird. > I made sure the drivers were the latest versions, but this still > occurs. I was getting frustrated so I plugged the Ultralite back in, > thinking I would return the Duet. I immediatly missed the sound of > the Duet. I don't think I can go back. > Does any one have any idea why it seems so sensitive to any changes > I make in Ableton? > > Thanks > Chris > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 13 02:11:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F2653BE73; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed In-reply-to: References: <9491C740-3700-4269-B557-AE96CB056EEA@mac.com> Message-id: From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Apogee Duet vs. Motu Ultralite Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:11:45 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <9myNtB.A.VSF.sBM_KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:11:56 +0000 (UTC) I think I found the culprit. I'm pretty sure it is Trilian. I took it out and all is well. That thing is a memory behemoth. Thanks for the advice. The Duet sounds amazing. Chris On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:04 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Which version of Ableton are you using? I've been running so far at > 128 without problems. (Knock on wood) Again I'm using a Macbook > white (early 2009) with 4 gig ram. Are you using a similar > computer? Maybe try turning off airport? Although I just ran a few > tests in Ableton using looper with some of Abletons soft synths and > didn't have any problems. Something sounds fishy with you having to > unplug the Duet to have changes take effect. I can change the > buffer setting by typing in 256, 512, 128 and the changes take > effect immediately. Let me know if I can help troubleshoot since > I'm a new Duet user as well. > > > Todd > > > On Nov 11, 2009, at 7:11 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > >> So I picked up an Apogee Duet this week. It does sound really, >> really good. I did some back to back tests with my Ultralite. It >> has a much more full sound, with tighter lows and a nice warmth >> too it. Very impressive sound. Its nice to have a control panel >> for it right in Logic and Mainstage. The breakout cable doesn't >> bother me much, you're gonna have cables connected to it anyway, >> so it's not that big a deal. I miss having a midi interface built >> in. I would imagine the Duet II will include this. >> The only real problem I have with it is when using it with >> Ableton, I'm getting some pretty crazy latency issues. It defaults >> to 512 samples in the buffer when you first connect it, and I was >> experiencing latency of good 1/2 second. Bringing it down to 256 >> didn't make a difference initially. I then have to unplug the >> Duet, then turn it back on, and restart Live for the change to >> kick in. It then improved greatly. But adding devices to a channel >> sometimes would knock back out of the setting. Although the buffer >> remained, the long lag would reappear, requiring another restart. >> Very weird. I made sure the drivers were the latest versions, but >> this still occurs. I was getting frustrated so I plugged the >> Ultralite back in, thinking I would return the Duet. I immediatly >> missed the sound of the Duet. I don't think I can go back. >> Does any one have any idea why it seems so sensitive to any >> changes I make in Ableton? >> >> Thanks >> Chris >> > From unideai@dawson.nswebhost.com Fri Nov 13 05:37:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3697 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:37:10 UTC Received: from dawson.nswebhost.com (dawson.nswebhost.com [65.254.40.34]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0133D3BE46 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:37:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unideai by dawson.nswebhost.com with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N8nsY-0004XD-Lm for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:35:22 -0600 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cancellazione X-PHP-Script: unidea.es/es_es/cancellazione/index.php for 88.112.55.124 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Message-Id: Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:35:22 -0600 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dawson.nswebhost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32500 32501] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dawson.nswebhost.com Ti confermo che la cancellazione alla newsletter è stata effettuata From uk@mail.tit.edu.tw Fri Nov 13 11:17:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 308 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:17:34 UTC Received: from csmg.tit.edu.tw (csmg.tit.edu.tw [140.130.168.160]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0327B3BE46 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:17:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on csmg.tit.edu.tw X-Spam-Status: score=0.1 required=3.0 X-Spam-Report: 0.8 UNDISC_RECIPS Valid-looking To "undisclosed-recipients" -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 0.8 DATE_IN_PAST_06_12 Date: is 6 to 12 hours before Received: date 1.0 SUBJ_ALL_CAPS Subject is all capitals 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.0 UPPERCASE_25_50 message body is 25-50% uppercase Received: from mail.tit.edu.tw [(140.130.168.230)] by csmg.tit.edu.tw (envelope-from ) (Cellopoint E-mail Firewall v3.9.5 Build 0323) with ESMTP id 1653861731; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:12:07 +0800 Received: from mail.tit.edu.tw (newmail.tit.edu.tw [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tit.edu.tw (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9740180079; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:31:44 +0800 (CST) From: "U.K. National Lottery" Reply-To: nicholaswiston101@yahoo.com.hk Subject: WINNING NOTIFICATION Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:31:44 +0800 Message-Id: <20091113023144.M82926@mail.tit.edu.tw> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.53 X-OriginatingIP: 62.56.141.17 (hylin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 To: undisclosed-recipients:; You have won £590,000.00 from the UK NATIONAL LOTTERY,Contact Mr Nicholas Wiston via Email:nicholaswiston101@yahoo.com.hk,Phone Number: +447045710084 Your Name: Sex: Country: Age:ccupation: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 13 13:50:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03C013BE75; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AFD6420.7010300@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:50:24 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT SOFTWARE to project and switch between a webcam and a real time screen shot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:50:28 +0000 (UTC) I'm setting up a video teaching studio at my home and was told that software exists that allows one to project your computer screen in real time to someone on video chat. What I want to do is to be able to switch between a video cam on me (or a remote camera) and real time movies of my computer screen. does this exist? Does anyone have any experience doing this? I'd be greatly in your debt to know what you all know. Thanks for bearing with this offtopic post, but I'm going to be offering live looping, rhythm intensive, computer sound design and arrangement/composition/improvisation/creativity lessons so it might actually be ON topic if I can get it going, soon. yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 13 14:16:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0C0B3BE73; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:16:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DOwlGPWgnm3fXatGzOMdikWKJfO0JzjzAouBX9+vYlY=; b=BE6o110r8R+zqsXPHPQR4/IM12hmLFGo3nJhbUrVfh5Z/uyWBEeD0ywbYjMgyyQLkS bkh2Tq0AINHnN16hWGINjFWMzJoGXqfxa3tSFfwdbDGcdadHy0heHZpkSFaotwCUkD3k UlyBRmRj+3l4FNMzYDP5M6tIiqOp814JkA008= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZxdPlT2rn0O4WCSUE7xMarVfQbXXf0Jjqr+wg7laK/QCGHM+bPTGDX7gin4l1s+9oz owSco9r9FEvXCvdTHMKwCrvHYJy9GOLCt5Gnbi6Zj/gFfI4f0MeM2vk5vcqzvp8+hyGl p8kQX80AfNUO8b3t/qouTEjTwpjQCAKXrDf/M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4AFD6420.7010300@cruzio.com> References: <4AFD6420.7010300@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:16:32 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911130616he4b4d82r74c8b6cdcf76e581@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT SOFTWARE to project and switch between a webcam and a real time screen shot From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:16:33 +0000 (UTC) Many video chat clients let you do this. Maybe start to read up on Skype? (just a guess) Camtasia has been recommended for creating software tutorial videos where you render a video while switching between or mixing your nice face with whatever is going on on your local screen. http://www.techsmith.com/learn/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I'm setting up a video teaching studio at my home > and was told that software exists that allows one to > project your computer screen in real time to > someone on video chat. > > What I want to do is to be =C2=A0able to switch between a > video cam on me (or a remote camera) =C2=A0and > real time movies of my computer screen. > > does this exist? > > Does anyone have any experience doing this? > > I'd be greatly in your debt to know what you all know. > > Thanks for bearing with this offtopic post, =C2=A0 but I'm going to be > offering live looping, =C2=A0 rhythm intensive, =C2=A0computer sound desi= gn > and arrangement/composition/improvisation/creativity lessons > so it might actually be ON topic if I can get it going, soon. > > yours, =C2=A0 Rick Walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 13 14:20:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA91B3BE77; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IYBU29s37ZgTWnNIatE+TK4tyNXa1d0DYQ3OIkujeck=; b=uotmaVc2NZSnAYr5/G9Zjw2eiIZNFrzbtbEdbEkuTmYl+cp7TgJ39CpnvH40Jbex3+ wGSfQGYDonLgrH4s3nU0AqE8pVAe9MLtaKGPhZRkGste3L0EYPilfnOyortSfltjeo8b DwpRamzTle0zeMSCj7ZK3GzSfwAlqCf5zYxWc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=cqXkVJ+aSvJ452MKOQnniKJiVdodgGRSUcUGy7mYHDgjKjmo4RXhuE91ISvsB6/mAG DHJhuv2cvoIoCd5qQxoyIrhQDvb11LfHn1edEA/Qrov5Zn2OIEapqjGq/Ipr4AJt0UWK 2O9SykkHWN58x2Gya9wx0pWZoeNTSKD5WwuG8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <4AFD6420.7010300@cruzio.com> References: <4AFD6420.7010300@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:20:01 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fbb8b319b6ef3261 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT SOFTWARE to project and switch between a webcam and a real time screen shot From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:20:04 +0000 (UTC) sounds like iChat to me. os. 2009/11/13 Rick Walker : > I'm setting up a video teaching studio at my home > and was told that software exists that allows one to > project your computer screen in real time to > someone on video chat. > > What I want to do is to be =A0able to switch between a > video cam on me (or a remote camera) =A0and > real time movies of my computer screen. > > does this exist? > > Does anyone have any experience doing this? > > I'd be greatly in your debt to know what you all know. > > Thanks for bearing with this offtopic post, =A0 but I'm going to be > offering live looping, =A0 rhythm intensive, =A0computer sound design > and arrangement/composition/improvisation/creativity lessons > so it might actually be ON topic if I can get it going, soon. > > yours, =A0 Rick Walker > > --=20 os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 13 14:23:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C4F83BE7F; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:23:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=KP6ZO4D311NiZrk+N1SabwYYKkt4jM2Ll+SyPYWd6Y4=; b=oLJNFRS7lsqyzxLRGiADMpbgxI8rSENVvRl5I0fGVLsQ9afRiqtH3rQFQJE9l7F6ph eb4EhSCM3YT63MAlLcc7YsHLx0aMM4SVFZ1FMDrGCOlqkbshWa60o785ApTavVzX5HsG pjV43bzkK70WKp04BK4SHZEcY3ajs9M/wUnZ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=oc0s4CEw4zDf5qo83swqVRc7ibPqTqYd9bWqHwaShvDM8D1pB9nM2jclg/VRAn1Zm9 r3HMe+iMxW/bMeItQ4C2ST3skAU23h3vMs7RCg1h2ksf+bhAjR2YqWZDQdEWbDRit3Ts 55GqGF4lMd0UdSeo2V1bUffszik74CsnRZfGs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4AFD6420.7010300@cruzio.com> References: <4AFD6420.7010300@cruzio.com> From: mark francombe Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:22:45 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6a957d59d6b70f3b Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0911130622m3817c4d7uce17e8ccacc36d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT SOFTWARE to project and switch between a webcam and a real time screen shot To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502cd23ed555704784165e5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:23:08 +0000 (UTC) --00504502cd23ed555704784165e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I use iChat or Adobe Live Connect Now... Weirdly I cant find out how to launch Live Connect, or is it Live Meetein (I think thats the Mircrosofts version) aprat from a rather lumpy route.. that is, launch Adobe Reader, and somewhere there is a menu item to share via Adobe Connect... works very well.. BUT.. I use iChat most of the time... the only thing about that is when you switch from video to screen you lose the video window.. BUT you can still HEAR.. oh.. and theres another issue.. they can use you mouse!! ha ha!! for some things its OK.. but to be honest Ive been looking for something simerlar myself... for a new company Ive formed with a guy from Japan. Our Sunday meetings are hilarious... 45 minutes faffling with fucking screen sharing options and 15 mins business... My research has NOT been able to turn up EXACTLY what you/we want... but close and useable... Mark On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I'm setting up a video teaching studio at my home > and was told that software exists that allows one to > project your computer screen in real time to > someone on video chat. > > What I want to do is to be able to switch between a > video cam on me (or a remote camera) and > real time movies of my computer screen. > > does this exist? > > Does anyone have any experience doing this? > > I'd be greatly in your debt to know what you all know. > > Thanks for bearing with this offtopic post, but I'm going to be > offering live looping, rhythm intensive, computer sound design > and arrangement/composition/improvisation/creativity lessons > so it might actually be ON topic if I can get it going, soon. > > yours, Rick Walker > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --00504502cd23ed555704784165e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use iChat or Adobe Live Connect Now...

Weirdly I cant find out ho= w to launch Live Connect, or is it Live Meetein (I think thats the Mircroso= fts version) aprat from a rather lumpy route..
that is, launch Adobe Rea= der, and somewhere there is a menu item to share via Adobe Connect... works= very well..

BUT.. I use iChat most of the time... the only thing about that is when= you switch from video to screen you lose the video window.. BUT you can st= ill HEAR.. oh.. and theres another issue.. they can use you mouse!! ha ha!!= for some things its OK.. but to be honest Ive been looking for something s= imerlar myself... for a new company Ive formed with a guy from Japan. Our S= unday meetings are hilarious... 45 minutes faffling with fucking screen sha= ring options and 15 mins business...

My research has NOT been able to turn up EXACTLY what you/we want... bu= t close and useable...

Mark

On Fri= , Nov 13, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
I'm setting u= p a video teaching studio at my home
and was told that software exists that allows one to
project your computer screen in real time to
someone on video chat.

What I want to do is to be =A0able to switch between a
video cam on me (or a remote camera) =A0and
real time movies of my computer screen.

does this exist?

Does anyone have any experience doing this?

I'd be greatly in your debt to know what you all know.

Thanks for bearing with this offtopic post, =A0 but I'm going to be
offering live looping, =A0 rhythm intensive, =A0computer sound design
and arrangement/composition/improvisation/creativity lessons
so it might actually be ON topic if I can get it going, soon.

yours, =A0 Rick Walker




--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--00504502cd23ed555704784165e5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 13 17:00:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B0353BE78; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=lxnWFSIPM90+VpvhlrUMapiKw2TN8HjQO9yvgbbOYRk=; b=miScxO2FYr2yrxjnwQGC7bWsPoKO6Nm0/8+M0K5Y6gsdDtV+ilboX1PmoDMk9T7KPO 4QNVB1lCoHeKUK+ythz1GFHlXtTrBNta9jbK+CiUH4JJ3HangT7lMyykPSqrv5jJjTBk i5iccpAABNc5/tdRCreAOgrWL1AMZLxMYChtI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=CzZ/DFa04aDrdj9lyUPedLFZ+D3y0wDjy+yGkHTLIg2NX4VOPE5PBAtBFte7z5AQzC IkDMqxC+PAxltjnPIFBYPhm1aMNTIR5H2BfWHAvrCV7kiHgS8dM/UCoeqp71A1RKBJ4O f7RycbycqYyRvKnWBDRqLtCL/jsOBwexDua6k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:00:15 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0911130900y1b2dec5au3b15eb3cb5948670@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [Gig]: MoinSound Studio Sessions Sat 14th of November, 1700UTC on ustream From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <55ohjC.A.UmC.iCZ_KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Hi everyone, again, an even calendar week - so tomorrow's the time for the MoinSound Studio Sessions. Tune in at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions for roughly one hour of trombone and mouth noises and looping galore. Time/Date: Saturday November 14th, 1700 UTC: http://fwd4.me/4Ck As a sidenote, look forward to a "MoinSound Studio Sessions" compilation album released (under cc license) this year! 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It's at 5:30pm Uk time. Internationl times here: http://bit.ly/4BsKVB To watch/listen go to: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain It would be great to see some of you there. 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The Sunday Morning at 11 URL is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11. Due to other scheduling needs my Sunday morning series has been rather erratic with a show here and there the last few months. I hope to get back to a bi-weekly continuity this winter. If you are around (and awake) tomorrow morning please join us at 11:45 EST/15:45 UTC and Mr Moyes at 12:30 EST/21:30 UTC. Happy Saturday to all. Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001517476218e043140478598e01 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks this is last minute planning but I'm pleased to announce that Chinapainting will be= doing a special Sunday Morning at 11 live uStream tomorrow (Sunday 11-15) beginnin= g at 11:45am EST (15:45 UTC or is it UCT(?)) and going to 12:30pm leading i= nto Steve Moyes Soundings from Behind the Net Curtain series.

The Sunday Morning at 11 URL is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11<= /a>.

Due to other scheduling needs my Sunday morning series has been= rather erratic with a show here and there the last few months.=A0 I hope t= o get back to a bi-weekly continuity this winter.=A0 If you are around (and= awake) tomorrow morning please join us at 11:45 EST/15:45 UTC and Mr Moyes= at 12:30 EST/21:30 UTC.

Happy Saturday to all.

Jim


--
ReUse= , an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

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www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

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www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

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SERVICE: PayPal .Inc Online® EXPIRATION: November - 30 - 2009 http://www.xcyg.net/US/paypal.eu/index.php 2009 PayPal ® All Rights Reserved VPQUOKOYSPTDTUJXBYBIGQSKUPIHKDQTNJRVRM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 15 06:24:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F8063BE79; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hxp31D1h3etH/4WAmzUNmexCiJInDn1e/BJEZF23Zc0=; b=Z3qob+HY1CiaUByv8H6/rpVe82BH5fWo4mcN4foCa3FRZKQIzTNUzKVjjrj4Hd9/m3 dvAmNvqmTvGVFjGwP2oif+ZsR8dA3RINVw25NWOKuMiduQJBZCquJKH0XgAkh0YlGhHR xNdUHzjNgCXOI8nJWtguFcjK4CvkmZ+8GUGmM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=A5mI5qFnogbFk9XCegDblGPGKqHgIMZ6Y3umaR2o8LNEaIozDBjZM0dqXfya0QX1oZ LozQLXLT8f2RUvOGVrtNEBwIKoXE0KFqTRbRjDLRwTFgMOHQXfzcZwzbnZbwq597u3oz f5TQtbGurLb2SIWU7YD6lFpAUQpYS4HwgIuFI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4c06901ca6359$f10b76e0$d32264a0$@com> References: <4c06901ca6359$f10b76e0$d32264a0$@com> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:24:31 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0911142224p4708e1b0s303274e783429487@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- From: Art Simon To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: FRO DIDDLY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <3vlf5B.A.4uE.h65_KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Wonderful stuff. I've watched them both 20 times each and have recommended the videos to others. I notice that "How you waste it" is down now. "The Sermon" is my favorite, but both were wonderful. Thanks Fro! On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Tim Thompson wrote: > =A0> i hope these vids inspire you all > > Absolutely fabulous. =A0Mission accomplished. > > =A0 =A0...Tim... > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 15 06:31:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83B463BE78; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 359 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:31:40 UTC Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:25:41 -0600 (CST) From: Tom Ulichny To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1253216699.3924721258266341234.JavaMail.root@mail3.sitezoogle.com> In-Reply-To: <4AFF6E39.1050105@asyouthink.com> Subject: Re: Les Paul multitrack recording MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [75.118.49.176] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.6_GA_2313.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/5.0.6_GA_2313.RHEL5_64) Resent-Message-ID: <4EbJ5B.A.SYF.MB6_KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Great Vid! ----- Original Message ----- From: "CM" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:58:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Les Paul multitrack recording Wow... just watched this video of our musical ancestry; rich, and absolutely delightful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YA_RINQySU Couldn't help but think you all might appreciate. : ) Enjoy, C From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 15 08:11:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 648BB3BE79; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0KbjDYqPW9k2p6SANPV2gHdFFR2RaPwu9vbdlUBtqCg=; b=UWo72N71ExmM2zmwjz23dymkB2ooVKiwQL7hkuewpH6WuBFWpAVbXyU59IGUMauvFm UX1V4BNh0pCI4dDS2zkU23TDnsaaj8xmUj2r0N/e3Vm6hRg6tue+QmOeuQ2070JDLi/6 3+v+2iF9WA025orDQbltqyS1TfgiFuNpHBBxw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QFDwmDhR7LtwLzGJahXs0BBfEVIsWLNRKxInS8rZ5ao1S1Gd5kvGKxJV+P1CxVNHZd 3RByK0nwE1eisN9Dwk15+d6y6yQhw0O5RDzQUG6v4k0klgNXFglY49L2yrQh92+qZYWN jK1VWKjSdDAnbHhXTrwIZX50ArxJbDT+W0kzo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0911142224p4708e1b0s303274e783429487@mail.gmail.com> References: <4c06901ca6359$f10b76e0$d32264a0$@com> <588ce11d0911142224p4708e1b0s303274e783429487@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:11:34 -0800 Message-ID: <3fa302e30911150011g5ddc19a8g1739e37521ecd5c1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367f934ffecd820478647020 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:11:36 +0000 (UTC) --0016367f934ffecd820478647020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Don't be alarmed! It's still right here on YouTube . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brZp4tMcsmA On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Art Simon wrote: > Wonderful stuff. I've watched them both 20 times each and have > recommended the videos to others. I notice that "How you waste it" is > down now. "The Sermon" is my favorite, but both were wonderful. Thanks Fro! > > -- Mikko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" --0016367f934ffecd820478647020 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't be alarmed! It's still right here on YouTube . . .

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On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com>= wrote:
Wonderful stuff. = I've watched them both 20 times each and have
recommended the videos to others. I notice that "How you waste it"= ; is
down now. "The Sermon" is my favorite, but both were wonderful. T= hanks Fro!

--
Mikko BiffleBiffoz@Gmail.com
http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz
"Running scared = from all the usual distractions!"
--0016367f934ffecd820478647020-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 15 10:21:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E23FB3BE77; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:21:05 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <277BC849-93DF-46F0-AE56-D9A70470E67A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091115102105.255170@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7334ca1b0911080644y1f21bf38o70a2cf15c8c7c7aa@mail.gmail.com> <12A6D8D3-4B49-40B2-A508-54042EF8CFA7@zonemobius.com> <20091110074259.255650@gmx.net> <12756227-EE97-4521-835C-4CA2F5F9B708@gmail.com> <20091111135847.322120@gmx.net> <277BC849-93DF-46F0-AE56-D9A70470E67A@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Audio to MIDI converter for individual drum tracks sensitive to velocity (windows platform) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19nTdlE5P1nla90Sd0XMolx+QPf+4XX+3CZMhPJzs SHe9hDXpmrHtOz7SU5WFGDkbJXI3BRpiUSYw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: KO7JA+UkQEV/JZ4tknRpxDBCNzg2NUI9 X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Resent-Message-ID: <5gxjzC.A.d-F.UY9_KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:21:08 +0000 (UTC) > I was talking about > the iPhone app that's named iGog. ok, that probably doesn't sell for 380,-USD then ;-) best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 15 10:25:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE1953BE77; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:25:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:25:05 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30911150011g5ddc19a8g1739e37521ecd5c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091115102505.255140@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4c06901ca6359$f10b76e0$d32264a0$@com> <588ce11d0911142224p4708e1b0s303274e783429487@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30911150011g5ddc19a8g1739e37521ecd5c1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19ID3tjlOdIC1m+Xim1w6CpsvzJ1pq93kPOfQlIx/ HrKizgApwIVrESiQYJrM7czLtjb8ZwmS5WTg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: OuXGf5EueWUod8F6iHRzUzExU3U4N49J X-FuHaFi: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:25:10 +0000 (UTC) I like it! :) Storytelling is imo an important part of music anyway. best Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From xxyyz12@att.net Sun Nov 15 13:02:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from n65a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (n65a.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [98.136.45.12]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 118D73BE70 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:02:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [216.252.122.218] by n65.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Nov 2009 13:02:44 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.158] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Nov 2009 13:02:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Nov 2009 13:02:44 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 591759.80768.bm@omp406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 67184 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Nov 2009 13:02:44 -0000 Message-ID: <264190.66616.qm@web180713.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: I8lpXIsVM1n..A5slCl6UB_VuR1ygjoAALGROudhCKtwu1Uug0zNkTxY7VXkV.gGavzUeDBVEkeE8Oc2NHUNMgsuvGvlqGeNeFOwl2elXZIvabUc0E1Y1nC7d48PFm2wsz7hZlE_.M7tLUGZ1Rzepe0tn34OMJZpryqD8__RqwvgIa_c1jjmA6qyLKmq2ppDac8dl7VUj7Q788W4fchiG9rw0MSsjjiivvuFeQ7X3WlmSJr718H8FgM8Tcybn.sQByuN9_W16mFE_j5V5faECNTf981.kDfl4MBHkVhuZRBqhaSdzvHy8E1_Pkf2DzY17BAAHsJDmb7YFBgsGfl5u8Rx0T3bU6q0XixDEGB6tDY9eVFjBcaJACdJhYLV91x8DoRTZ84DS7nCo.6cG_DLw3J26BxUo6w8JZwPVtQi0ipJ7cIFDiJoFT2yQfFb_9IZ3rhccpSW3B.d2w40bqF4kG4Bn6W.l_BDpsH.PPmjAmlBUH7alWWQK5WTS3AvZBwBPOPqDtmENVwzY.w7062SIhOCTWakK7VjrxijakQoVNRyS8tM0Ws6c2_3RM4_sZwj3yI.Xy6YHG5I9Cn.GwAOUquY82LEoUOHEzpf8.c_96IvPyK0Vogbz8Q6eSREHpVi2onmkmupT34IFyd._1hAmZIlqwt4Yrb1fuUMzevLaeA8ZAsko.ZsnfZeuX73YGU81V0mex2DEFoZ1Qb5OM9QVpmXmt.oNufxuMxW930YeML023VI6SO8itVXmCL3nSpHm2m3_W.pRt43pIXS9bYQrlDzPh1mX_kvjsXNOg-- Received: from [216.226.71.45] by web180713.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:02:43 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:02:43 -0800 (PST) From: Uman Wood Reply-To: dr_usmanwood1@maktoob.com Subject: From """"Dr Usman Wood ."""" 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To: undisclosed recipients: ; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Dr. Usman Wood #31 Council of Churches P O Box 62098 Marshalltown 2107 United Kingdom =20 RE-TRANSFER OF =A352,954,000.00 {Fifty Two Million Nine Hundred And Fifty F= our Thousand British Pounds Sterling} =20 Good day. =20 I am aware that this is certainly an unconventional approach to starting a = relationship. I am Dr. Usman Wood, the personal account officer to the grea= t late deseased who has an account in one of the top banks here in London, = United Kingdom. The account was opened in 2002 and he died in 2004 without = a written or oral WILL and since 2004 nobody has operated on this account a= gain hence the money is floating, and if I do not remit this money out urge= ntly it will be forfeited for nothing, and Government of United Kingdom wil= l confiscate the funds for their personal use which I personally don't want such inciden= t to happen being that this is a great opportunity in my life. =20 My contact is for you to please assist me to transfer the fund {=A352,954,0= 00.00} from a Cooperate Bank here in UK to an oversea account. First, I mus= t solicit your strictest confidence in this transaction. This is by virtue = of its nature as being utterly confidential. I am sure and have confidence = of your ability and reliability to prosecute a transaction of this great magnitude. I solicit your assistance to enable us transfer the s= aid amount into your safe account for onward investment. =20 You can either provide us with an existing account or to set up a new Bank = account immediately to receive this money, even an empty a/c can serve to r= eceive this money, as long as you will remain honest to me till the end of = this important business, trusting in you and believing in God that you will never let me down in future because = this business is my life. The owner of this account is a foreigner and no o= ther person knows about this account or anything oncerning it, the account= has no other beneficiary and until his death he was the manager of the company. My investigation through the Natio= nal immigration department and Ministries here proved to me as well that he= was single as at the time of his entry into the United Kingdom. As a matte= r of fact, I have decided to transfer this fund abroad for investment. =20 Your assistance as a foreigner is necessary because the management of the b= ank will welcome any foreigner who has correct information to this account = which I will give to you immediately, We will start the first transfer with= Thirty Two Million {=A332,000,000.00}. =20 Upon successful transfer without any disappointment from your side, we shal= l re-apply for the payment of the remaining balance of {=A320, 954,000.00} = to your account. I am only contacting you as a foreigner because this money= cannot be approved to a local person here due to law in United Kingdom.=20 =20 Be it known that at the conclusion of this business, your share will be 40%= of the total transfer sum, while 60% will be for me and my partners here w= ho are helping me in facilitating the transfer. =20 =20 If you are interested, please forward the following information as below: =20 {1} Your Name/company's name and full address, {2} Bank Name:............ .......... {3} Bank Address..................... {4} Account No:...................... {5} Swift Code...{if any} {6} Account Holder's Name: .................... {7} Your telephone Number.both Home, Office & Cell/Mobile and fax Numbers......................... {8} Your Occupation.............. {9} Your Valid ID ................... =20 Upon the receipt of the above details, payment will be activated by the fee= ding of your data into payment system, followed by a signal that will be se= nt to the paying bank to remit the funds into your nominated bank account w= ithin 7 official working days of receipt of the above information. Best Regards, Dr. Usman Wood. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 15 15:13:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3829E3BE77; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=fh+WgNLhRxq9vW0f2TTl8rxqDrwEXLGbxJYhgGmXlT4=; b=KRVfN/VHpK8d506fOD+eLekXHCwR7X3ONsXxledA6CfKvGYGHVVZC3xjB6j0qLzpFa 6GoTYZ+apFnd+Qyw+8ql8ezdN+0OK1NVHF6ZOu+qyyOyUKtTi4jsu32Qa/8yZqcPaA16 o3FMLh89Cy+2Ff26fzoYjPFNifW7R5uXk9vv0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=tiU5Rr8/4TjKVrYkBfbl7jWOSCCH805j5nJdz2avkM1wiL92UVGIhX1KXyJSCPX9iz x8uyaezGiG2gf7NVYOdeYVQuaNnNqv7RjzLJsEWOJrDCn3pRRvhB4JziZ1yPwippz9og BTK69NcQ+PJNJzfK1h8BXwR0EwhaizHA1Q9Fc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:13:08 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0911150713g7f2c77e5nd3acb7e813860c3a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Chinapainting - uStream tomorrow 11:45am EST From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:13:12 +0000 (UTC) > Folks this is last minute planning but I'm pleased to announce that Chinapainting will be doing a special Sunday Morning at 11 live uStream tomorrow (Sunday 11-15) beginning at 11:45am EST > (15:45 UTC or is it UCT(?)) and goingto 12:30pm leading into Steve Moyes Soundings from Behind the Net Curtain series. Jim, sorry to chime in here, but according to e.g. timeanddate.com (http://fwd4.me/4PP), 11:45 New York (EST) corresponds to 16:45 UTC (during winter equal to GB time), not as you said 15:45. Btw, this is also what Stephen Moyes told me. Yours, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 15 15:33:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 902133BE7E; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TMQ09owmgyOAFWbKmaBw2LhXNcpoFxCFBzyD70j6cDQ=; b=P32MpW61U9I+WLul9ttvV4OfULYAf3EYklAaKdng8lDUytqm1yyZfV5ttqgBcnWxJw qnkPfI8IG2rzuSu4dWVsB+UZU3atMn+AV1HhHtEL1KGzNK6PJe8mbNTvAvF22KQlnVSL vt98qkD/SWqtpQsJ0SbuEEsp2FMduV/+Ao+rY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GujfkIBEB1v6jxkChGikyywByAWT4KBPHfANF2WlxgzJtU6K/wyvbq0FluGw9vIa3+ koxo2J9s0v36BnMmrerOpWaag+67F9PwRuEWlAoqPT2LcSPjMKOBThWfH/XBhspVI2T0 OmyFoV4FYWMMSQSFlgb1npRvgHQTnBg8rZISw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0911150713g7f2c77e5nd3acb7e813860c3a@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0911150713g7f2c77e5nd3acb7e813860c3a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:33:10 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60911150733w889f455wd329a6784422e482@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Chinapainting - uStream tomorrow 11:45am EST From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174783083e53ed04786a9c8e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:33:13 +0000 (UTC) --0015174783083e53ed04786a9c8e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Rainer thanks for the correction but I thought 1700 was 1pm EST, hence 1600 would be noon, hence 1545 for 11:45 EST no? Let me do it this way... *Chinapainting live this AM on uStream.tv Sunday Morning at 11 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 Please note due to scheduling need my series is starting 45 min later than usual, times and zones are next. 8:45 am PST, 9:45 am MST, 10:45 am CST, **11:45 am EST, 4:45 pm UK, 5:45 pm Continental Europe, 12:45 am Japan. In that I'm confused re UTC please double check me at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock for times in your area. Thanks and pleas join us should you be about. * J On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Rainer Straschill < moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Folks this is last minute planning but I'm pleased to announce that > Chinapainting will be doing a special Sunday Morning at 11 live uStream > tomorrow (Sunday 11-15) beginning at 11:45am EST > > (15:45 UTC or is it UCT(?)) and goingto 12:30pm leading into Steve Moyes > Soundings from Behind the Net Curtain series. > > Jim, > > sorry to chime in here, but according to e.g. timeanddate.com > (http://fwd4.me/4PP), 11:45 New York (EST) corresponds to 16:45 UTC > (during winter equal to GB time), not as you said 15:45. > Btw, this is also what Stephen Moyes told me. > > Yours, > > Rainer > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0015174783083e53ed04786a9c8e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rainer thanks for the correction but I thought 1700 was 1pm EST, hence 1600= would be noon, hence 1545 for 11:45 EST no?=A0 Let me do it this way...
Chinapainting live this AM on uStream.tv Sunday Morning at 11 http://www.ustrea= m.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11=A0 Please note due to scheduling need= my series is starting 45 min later than usual, times and zones are next.
8:45 am PST, 9:45 am MST, 10:45 am CST,
11:45 am EST, 4:45 pm UK= , 5:45 pm Continental Europe, 12:45 am Japan.

In that I'm confus= ed re UTC please double check me at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock for times in your area= .

Thanks and pleas join us should you be about.

J

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Rainer Straschill <= span dir=3D"ltr"><moinsound@= googlemail.com> wrote:
> Folks this i= s last minute planning but I'm pleased to announce that Chinapainting w= ill be doing a special Sunday Morning at 11 live uStream tomorrow (Sunday 1= 1-15) beginning at 11:45am EST
> (15:45 UTC or is it UCT(?)) and goingto 12:30pm leading into Steve Moy= es Soundings from Behind the Net Curtain series.

Jim,

sorry to chime in here, but according to e.g. timeanddate.com
(http://fwd4.me/4PP), = 11:45 New York (EST) corresponds to 16:45 UTC
(during winter equal to GB time), not as you said 15:45.
Btw, this is also what Stephen Moyes told me.

Yours,

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer




--
ReUse, an intros= pective textural aural
www.my= space.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com

www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

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The DD-3 can so a short-loop while the #1 Echo can apparently do an (almost= ) infinite sound-on-sound. If anybody here has had or used both and can comment on general usefulness/= quality of the looping aspect and general usefulness in general, that'd be = appreciated. ted h. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0ALooking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! =0A=0Ahttp:= //www.flickr.com/gift/ --0-1770402375-1258315243=:86202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I've got a line on a Boss DD-3 and an Ele= ctro-Harmonix #1 Echo.

The DD-3 can so a short-loop while the #1 Ech= o can apparently do an (almost) infinite sound-on-sound.

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= --Apple-Mail-9-849749728-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 16 02:03:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAD073BE79; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:03:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3618 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:03:55 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:54:07 -0500 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Car Lights Photo Essay and call for soundtrack collaboration. Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:03:57 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I recently uploaded Car Lights a new photo essay on Flickr -- it can be seen at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157622805556082/ I'm also working up some video/animation material based on these and similar images. If any composers or improvisors out there would be interested in creating a 5 - 8 minute piece for such a video, please get in touch Further notes on the photo essay are below. Thanks for looking. I've always been fascinated by the photographic possibilities inherent in reflections, transmitted light, and refracted light. I've been taking a lot of photos recently of closeups of car headlights and taillights, which combine all three. Car Lights consists of a sequence of these pictures, with the original photos interspersed with images treated with various Photoshop filters. The 'Doctor' in Doctor T comes from my Ph. D. in physics. A friend of mine used to say that I took 'physicist's pictures'. I don't think about the physics when I take images like these, but they can reasonably be described as physicist's pictures'. -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 16 06:37:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FAA13BE82; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1258353421; bh=LkamW8Ss1vdjshhycBaeCaqf46Nnh4Qwo9IjXZe7ckQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=meBcexJ22Ol5T/AGcItI/r4kkORtbGRRFd+9ecYy1CABAWDD5cy8WWR5QF0WRTl1h8f5dLMkuS94YQUUwCbPmPuNh5okirfCOqnwxrq0arjkx3yYQs9T0mFZL5/Xru9ETWe33x1r67FL3CaxP0yzWvKUFyDN0Gp8+7LeZBPtE1Y= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cmTG4hqBqa6MbXxPvf1cYDksQp8j7p3Un8bPIRq8tdDoQiALTB6ccH+Np5KCBGy9UeK5yTd82RS5xfTFjrqE/+iT24+HVjCRjjs3m24Wy2m7EM1LYwZ4Vhkxe/MUdIbMt4MCLKSAKEnQ5f2c0Enbe177/zzughOvh3dgT/qJO6M=; Message-ID: <179904.5007.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 4tQ50yAVM1mXelTERxPVxs5wEhz1nxgwJZjLjuJgXLA7KpaOP2yNB3jtNkKLCd7w2FpLvRX8HWvkaOYm1kZ_P7FyahOPdAP2eh_s0o7ExhtmhUHbVra9E6MKJZV4Y_3AOKYdx37h2gBhr06P9NYwFN5J_ZzdhSe.96SlkTNnAxyAIFnJt3dQtJtszYQand54WbSu8J9yTw82FuAl4mGLwjo9.0e3EhN.vwolt8VZnaHXTDVteiT.fDvLX412qB8pqQtInunzLh2Lb3hxd5CdjbqhH9fsn2DzxSSbfi.ql4Gxo_LSdyouA3WIxPf.pNHO1fRycQPsAHCyHezO_Wjd7_SYnV.l.2xkyPeVW4chc4qNIA3ZFUKbpHzC9y57M3nobR.za4bSQC70O8jH5caBuHgPrhCbjZoqcwGQIu8La2bs4f5aeSN5A9F650htlra6nvXVQSbIutBB3dAeM6IVwA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:37:01 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Uccello Subject: Uccello Project House Concert-Seaside, CA -DEC 12th (Looping w/Upright & Dobro Basses) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1099102847-1258353421=:5007" Resent-Message-ID: <0vCfL.A.xjC.OMPALB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:37:02 +0000 (UTC) --0-1099102847-1258353421=:5007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello fellow loopers, Steve Uccello here sending out a message to you all t= o say hi, introduce myself, and let you know about an upcoming looping show= . I am new to Looper's Delight and look forward to my subscription! -Uccello Project, live full length show -Time: Saturday, December 12th, 2009 =A0- 7:30 pm -Place: House Concert In Seaside, CA (USA) -contact: email stevebassbird@yahoo.com=A0 -or call 831-801-4920 for details=09=A0-details: Price: $12 (includes show/= drinks/snacks!)=A0 Background: =A0I just performed at the Y2K9 International Live Looping Fest= ival, and I have also shared the stage with loopers such as Joe Craven and = Steve Lawson. This will be the first full length show by Uccello Project an= d will feature me on Upright/Dobro Basses, and Acoustic Guitar. -There will= also be a few special guests sitting in! Also, I invite you to visit my blog and hear my new record, Symmetria, in i= t's entirety, Free: http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/=A0 ...here's a couple blurbs about it: Symmetria by the Uccello Project is a gorgeous, instrumental and largely un= classifiable record. Best thought of as 'cinematic', each of the tracks con= jures up a range of emotions and images, taking the listener on a beautiful= journey. The layers of basses, guitars and percussion ebb and flow, drawin= g on jazz, folk, blues and African music, blending all the elements into on= e lovely album. Recommended.Steve Lawson (Aug 18, 2009) I just received the first Uccello Project CD, 'Symmetria' in the mail today= . =A0I was really taken by the track 'Chiral' and by the records intriguing= blend=A0of acoustic and electric guitars and bass guitars, guitarron, mand= olin, gongs, hand drums,=A0drumset, harp and flutes all played by talented = multi-instrumentalist, live looper,=A0Steve Uccello. The record has beautif= ul ambient passages, composed tunes=A0and even veers into experimnental and= almost dark ambient territory. =A0A very=A0impressive first effort. =A0I l= ook forward to hearing what this talented musician=A0has to play at =A0the = Y2K9 looping festival for the first time this year.Rick Walker, composer/lo= fi, toy video artist/found sound/live looper, Founder: Y2K International L= ive Looping Festivals (Aug 28, 2009) Thanks for your time, and i've been enjoying reading all the post on this l= ist so far!=0A=0A=0A --0-1099102847-1258353421=:5007 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello fellow loopers, Steve Uccello here= sending out a message to you all to say hi, introduce myself, and let you = know about an upcoming looping show. I am new to Looper's Delight and look = forward to my subscription!

-Uccello Project, live= full length show

-Time: Saturday, December 12th, = 2009  - 7:30 pm

-Place: House Concert In Seas= ide, CA (USA)

-contact: email stevebassbird@yahoo.= com 

-or call 831-801-4920 for details
<= div>=09&= nbsp;
-details: Price: $12 (includes show/drinks/snacks!) 

Background:  I just performed at the Y2K9 Inte= rnational Live Looping Festival, and I have also shared the stage with loop= ers such as Joe Craven and Steve Lawson. This will be the first full length show by= Uccello Project and will feature me on Upright/Dobro Basses, and Acoustic = Guitar. -There will also be a few special guests sitting in!

=
Also, I invite you to visit my blog and hear my new record, Symm= etria, in it's entirety, Free:

http://www.uccellop= rojects.blogspot.com/ 

...here's a couple blu= rbs about it:

Symmetria by the Uccello Project is a gorgeous, instrumental and l= argely unclassifiable record. Best thought of as 'cinematic', each of the t= racks conjures up a range of emotions and images, taking the listener on a = beautiful journey. The layers of basses, guitars and percussion ebb and flo= w, drawing on jazz, folk, blues and African music, blending all the element= s into one lovely album. Recommended.

Steve Lawson (Aug 18, 2009)

I just rec= eived the first Uccello Project CD, 'Symmetria' in the mail today.  I = was really taken by the track 'Chiral' and by the records intriguing blend&= nbsp;of acoustic and electric guitars and bass guitars, guitarron, mandolin= , gongs, hand drums, drumset, harp and flutes all played by talented m= ulti-instrumentalist, live looper, Steve Uccello. The record has beaut= iful ambient passages, composed tunes and even veers into experimnenta= l and almost dark ambient territory.  A very impressive first effort.  I look forward to hearing what this talented musician h= as to play at  the Y2K9 looping festival for the first time this year.=
Rick Walker, composer/lo fi, toy = video artist/found sound/live looper, Founder: Y2K International Live Loopi= ng Festivals (Aug 28, 2009)

<= div>
Thanks for your time, and i've been enjoying reading all= the post on this list so far!

=0A=0A --0-1099102847-1258353421=:5007-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 16 11:37:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA38D3BE82; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:37:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=D22Ve2jRT50K8VZktXFi4L4TR2ploCoUiCcqUSf2KUY=; b=OwJS2DR8E9IIPoUmkp4cJ/2+sMrEvqm2YytylkUz6bXrsFWYjyEpLL0oaYPPMgYmii Rc8sQqGLnfN29kq3GLtx0STn+9DWiIP/8NEz6m04P45uxGXl/VrZRpm4oo3OargnrDHD Fw+79ZWCbZ3xU85FLRXPOtQ3a/PleA7ALpy+M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vFMBH1J1CFxm+JFFxiuoDvtZ081XpNC9VMT92A4ZdD0yFyOeVJHRfgkDG5cJd/NXl3 jml4KuMAqbB4yWPbfMY5fWgvEMNr4L+4xTfMzCKnRqW7emTP5krJ16I1sGxwBiUAok0s fk/itkyCCc1fdoID4UHHIGb+aMMLsbX2q4V1M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:37:06 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911160337n33a79f87n27d13cc0766e2460@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Car Lights Photo Essay and call for soundtrack collaboration. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:37:16 +0000 (UTC) Fascinating images! Especially when setting the Flickr slideshow to full screen mode. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) wrote: > Hi folks, > > I recently uploaded Car Lights a new photo essay on Flickr -- it can be s= een > at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157622805556082/ > > I'm also working up some video/animation material based on these and simi= lar > images. If any composers or improvisors out there would be interested in > creating a 5 - 8 minute piece for such a video, please get in touch > > Further notes on the photo essay are below. Thanks for looking. > > I've always been fascinated by the photographic possibilities inherent in > reflections, transmitted light, and refracted light. I've been taking a l= ot > of photos recently of closeups of car headlights and taillights, which > combine all three. > > Car Lights consists of a sequence of these pictures, with the original > photos interspersed with images treated with various Photoshop filters. > > The 'Doctor' in Doctor T comes from my Ph. D. in physics. A friend of min= e > used to say that I took 'physicist's pictures'. I don't think about the > physics when I take images like these, but they can reasonably be describ= ed > as physicist's pictures'. > > -- > " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." =C2=A0-- Paul Bley > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Emile Tobenfeld, P= h. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 16 17:50:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5B463BE85; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1258393820; bh=8V6rWlsW9Gh/lfRS91cwrn7mXeSVlPRdnzuxbmiHYOk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VqplmdhTCl3TGrZG2/50SD37a6KSHeMIcC/IffdNkN6BEFlvb89k9OshlxETI5vdo8XxE52QE2bnYM3ogU82TJdmLsDnrUo4p75LqjOX0Q4JDYDGrdV+LIksMZ2zkFUt0aL8Zu2z1ZYlpOjzpyEzFE5lpUeJrhpOY509BXqwGy8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GhCGuo52rq4L5+QRmuZkBYMwsn2wk3b5y1oZQ/6H+BuPG3z9Zdh0LwePLtl0clPI6Xq6Az3NuhMQNGxMWoJd/PBWBHSZHZYn1yI9ZuraZJ2+YXnIdV/ZHiyxQYqO5rPkETrMyISVTL5WHJzZ/X+1xijSrCxOcb1tt1oAnXW/p0w=; Message-ID: <536990.13974.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: lT_Hl1sVM1lilgEEMGtgH27LZ6PY0wRyvcfAMj5p_2sTXY8G8ifXXM7BjCeTa0_tTB9lBjWxitKlGDmMdBVV_GGcdnRJriJ65UQdMhQvf_wCotfUtJ6LTz2Ogfcbb.O0OLpQjx5yazvtlFkZ0N6Wq55ybld_DO8NeETrGxoVO.jsCZ5.g2O1SecR1fVZtXUbNCAlteCc7OhwreosjdcYFWF2oFapPv2K7p4gDNYwMtvZ4v851q7YHZh7bHIyIdJbU64kMMIpkByt0_kd398ivtmGPmvdM1InZqmjv9DWR5jnhLskXLTM0Zk1NBrSErOHCozX52Ig4cn5fK2x8PRKdgGQ6.PuOw7yvNZWvcExbkaBCxi43IigHNwc4Ou1brFaJ.3sM7wZ.FhBcVS9q3SIcNm5DM7Y4nfsf81BbpAG6QsRnAl2NpN4q2FdMI2fQMVhNUReOPdVadhoVhyKWo8lHiQB4mnaMwnhIEnFJg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:50:20 -0800 (PST) From: scott hansen Subject: dd3 v. #1 Echo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2065757642-1258393820=:13974" Resent-Message-ID: <9i6sm.A.ey.dDZALB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:50:21 +0000 (UTC) --0-2065757642-1258393820=:13974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii well, i can't speak directly to this- i just looked up the the e-h #1 echo and on m-f.com it says it has 2 sec of delay. i have a boss dd7, and the delay goes up to 6.something sec---and i'm not sure if i'm a huge fan of the supposed "6 sec", b/c to get the 6 sec you have to use the stereo out jack--so it's kind of a screwy thing-in my estimation. but i do use the 3.2 sec of delay a lot for my looping and you can get infinate delays going and modulate it to mess up the time etc....the thing w/ it w/ the level all the way up, it gets noisy FAST! but that can be good or bad.... i don't remember what the dd3 had for max time, it seems each subsequent boss dd pedal added a bit longer of delay option, the dd6 had up to 5 sec of delay or something. useful at times. of course the dd7 has the sound on sound options for 40 sec, which i've used a bit, but not much. a bit of info--not sure if it helps you....i'm most curious about the digitech hardware dl8 pedal--i would much prefer using 8 sec of delay than what the dd7 offers, and when i was looking at pedals a yr ago, i got to try the dd7 at the local GtrCntr so decided to stick w/ that...i didn't get to play w/ the digitech dl8 much there..... oh well...as they say: happy hunting.... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --0-2065757642-1258393820=:13974 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
well, i can't speak directly to this-
i just looked up the the e-h #1 echo and on m-f.com it says it has 2 sec of delay.

i have a boss dd7, and the delay goes up to 6.something sec---and i'm not sure if
i'm a huge fan of the supposed "6 sec", b/c to get the 6 sec you have to use the stereo
out jack--so it's kind of a screwy thing-in my estimation.
but i do use the 3.2 sec of delay a lot for my looping and you can get infinate delays going and modulate it to mess up the time etc....the thing w/ it w/ the level all the way up, it gets noisy FAST! but that can be good or bad....

i don't remember what the dd3 had for max time, it seems each subsequent boss dd pedal added a bit longer of delay option, the dd6 had up to 5 sec of delay or something.
useful at times.
of course the dd7 has the sound on sound options for 40 sec, which i've used a bit, but not much.
a bit of info--not sure if it helps you....i'm most curious about the digitech hardware dl8 pedal--i would much prefer using 8 sec of delay than what the dd7 offers, and when i was looking at pedals a yr ago, i got to try the dd7 at the local GtrCntr so decided to stick w/ that...i didn't get to play w/ the digitech dl8 much there.....
oh well...as they say: happy hunting....
s---
www.myspace.com/scotthansen

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Interesting thoughts re your record Symmetria. Equally your background as well. I was at Y2K this year but only for Saturday so I'm sorry I missed hearing you but in watching the 'low end' video I can easily hear the influences, somewhat being Jeff Berlin to my ears. Once again welcome to LD... Jim Goodin www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Steve Uccello wrote: > Hello fellow loopers, Steve Uccello here sending out a message to you > all to say hi, introduce myself, and let you know about an upcoming looping > show. I am new to Looper's Delight and look forward to my subscription! > > -Uccello Project, live full length show > > -Time: Saturday, December 12th, 2009 - 7:30 pm > > -Place: House Concert In Seaside, CA (USA) > > -contact: email stevebassbird@yahoo.com > > -or call 831-801-4920 for details > > -details: Price: $12 (includes show/drinks/snacks!) > > Background: I just performed at the Y2K9 International Live Looping > Festival, and I have also shared the stage with loopers such as Joe Craven > and Steve Lawson. This will be the first full length show by Uccello Project > and will feature me on Upright/Dobro Basses, and Acoustic Guitar. -There > will also be a few special guests sitting in! > > Also, I invite you to visit my blog and hear my new record, Symmetria, in > it's entirety, Free: > > http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/ > > ...here's a couple blurbs about it: > > Symmetria by the Uccello Project is a gorgeous, instrumental and largely > unclassifiable record. Best thought of as 'cinematic', each of the tracks > conjures up a range of emotions and images, taking the listener on a > beautiful journey. The layers of basses, guitars and percussion ebb and > flow, drawing on jazz, folk, blues and African music, blending all the > elements into one lovely album. Recommended. > > Steve Lawson (Aug 18, 2009) > > I just received the first Uccello Project CD, 'Symmetria' in the mail > today. I was really taken by the track 'Chiral' and by the records > intriguing blend of acoustic and electric guitars and bass guitars, > guitarron, mandolin, gongs, hand drums, drumset, harp and flutes all played > by talented multi-instrumentalist, live looper, Steve Uccello. The record > has beautiful ambient passages, composed tunes and even veers into > experimnental and almost dark ambient territory. A very impressive first > effort. I look forward to hearing what this talented musician has to play > at the Y2K9 looping festival for the first time this year. > Rick Walker, composer/lo fi, toy video artist/found sound/live looper, > Founder: Y2K International Live Looping Festivals (Aug 28, 2009) > > > Thanks for your time, and i've been enjoying reading all the post on this > list so far! > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0023545bd064864e82047885448f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Steve welcome.=A0 Interesting thoughts re your record Symmetria.=A0 Eq= ually your background as well.=A0 I was at Y2K this year but only for Satur= day so I'm sorry I missed hearing you but in watching the 'low end&= #39; video I can easily hear the influences, somewhat being Jeff Berlin to = my ears.
=A0
Once again welcome to LD...
=A0
Jim Goodin
www.jimgoodinmusic.com<= /div>


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On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Steve Uccello <= span dir=3D"ltr"><stevebassbi= rd@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello fellow loopers, Steve Uccello here sending out a message to you = all to say hi, introduce myself, and let you know about an upcoming looping= show. I am new to Looper's Delight and look forward to my subscription= !

-Uccello Project, live full length show

-Time: Saturday, December 12th, 2009 =A0- 7:30 pm

-Place: House Concert In Seaside, CA (USA)

-contact: email stevebassbird@yahoo.com=A0

-or call 831-801-4920 for details
=A0
-details: Price: $12 (includes show/drinks/snacks!)=A0

Background: =A0I just performed at the Y2K9 International Live Looping= Festival, and I have also shared the stage with loopers such as Joe Craven= and Steve Lawson. This will be the first full length show by Uccello Proje= ct and will feature me on Upright/Dobro Basses, and Acoustic Guitar. -There= will also be a few special guests sitting in!

Also, I invite you to visit my blog and hear my new record, Symmetria,= in it's entirety, Free:


...here's a couple blurbs about it:

Symmetria by the Uccello Project is a gorgeous, instrumental and = largely unclassifiable record. Best thought of as 'cinematic', each= of the tracks conjures up a range of emotions and images, taking the liste= ner on a beautiful journey. The layers of basses, guitars and percussion eb= b and flow, drawing on jazz, folk, blues and African music, blending all th= e elements into one lovely album. Recommended.

Steve Lawson (Aug 18,= 2009)

I just received the first Uccello Projec= t CD, 'Symmetria' in the mail today. =A0I was really taken by the t= rack 'Chiral' and by the records intriguing blend=A0of acoustic and= electric guitars and bass guitars, guitarron, mandolin, gongs, hand drums,= =A0drumset, harp and flutes all played by talented multi-instrumentalist, l= ive looper,=A0Steve Uccello. The record has beautiful ambient passages, com= posed tunes=A0and even veers into experimnental and almost dark ambient ter= ritory. =A0A very=A0impressive first effort. =A0I look forward to hearing w= hat this talented musician=A0has to play at =A0the Y2K9 looping festival fo= r the first time this year.
Rick Walker, composer= /lo fi, toy video artist/found sound/live looper, Founder: Y2K Internationa= l Live Looping Festivals (Aug 28, 2009)


Thanks for your time, and i've been enjoying reading all the post = on this list so far!

=


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ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse
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www.jimgoodi= nmusic.com
www.chinapa= intingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

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--0023545bd064864e82047885448f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 17 01:07:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD3F63BE85; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:07:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1258420058; bh=larWNo4Efh83nzPhsqat1X7a0hnJZdVI4fE8cPJ7GKE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ALaJpmNWrkcX+s8ns/nmAVKJ2JLvrpVQpSi+Gr3fkvNOS9+IcDsUkHfaSCTeYEG5DnELVtofzODNoekfdK9NsqeC9uz/Icm9upzXkM4sFU54kR62oczatviGqrg7jzI4mpjReheLTbQuio6koxYdvhIfoEZuv6gKWDwNmF5CqHc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kHGFKFG76MfYEYkG03GwXOqwA34Ae4g+M4w+xaA584p4q0O9iT/+WLwEUDKBsDW4t45e0o6/kOjPdrktK8EFKdj/utC/3oKz4kBy8atWWqOY9eGvl/HNN8y50X/cEL87zSBpAYQFDexTjQfHCNv8Yc7n/Knof+zLEWOMHa5kiYc=; Message-ID: <756768.83114.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: dk6NJAIVM1kiy0muyCZyqBQFUoNpLzREOPI1.0A8dsKssjwgalEGtyD7qwGbY.ifViz4ymnuPVuvAk1ahnVLeHA6vAjqpqTajFNLJ1HrOLCVa_pmiJLtnMk6fOmJ2CUMC2fEWmfJwc8GEGYnkh_zBYgWSu_6QNsELefRh7kAvCoadFgLUA6.bmnjE3OFIaUxhfkk_I1fs.8aDK33LgBZn9BwIhi_gFrt7bhWnKm98MXAMKbSFm2YTsP_DmUSXTs4vaeDBGzYWg9kTLUYT9lVBwYE275zf6hIVSg4bHDjPrHVhCscLhPOkbyXq0QnFKkBeEj6Qsh5Ms__Bx_mBTJWJVTbtnlrd12mHQDRvYgjUU1Ik9ZknXEfdIwHL0fA5ZmCQwM4FCH5FeHw2RH.uz2ObRj7PEx.AOfr17Ka.EYxjjE6N5gdkSp9dk8BSNg_wnM4TLJ2_JkSv4hiLH_0RAmRXHc7Xh0yGr0tPfKbqKJNoha0PHlYbEPn67j7cTMv9p.ugNjTLZjSJKcm2wtk4X8Nk2yyNyzaTqxDn1UqL5mrIpbAfkZ2fUyH7ojx7G_EOBx4xJx3UZQ9ZD3LPhdtyvgNd_PYZB9CK5nBo7vGBAIs_gtpWmgCatC_HhIB3mBOrJBbTOsb_OUOrN6vMfjaCVjLgKyOvOzhh1Bif86bf9u73Ic- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:07:38 -0800 (PST) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: dd3 v. #1 Echo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <536990.13974.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-490547922-1258420058=:83114" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:07:39 +0000 (UTC) --0-490547922-1258420058=:83114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, Scott - thanks for the reply. The DD3 hold function goes from 200-800ms, so, yeah, just enough time for a= chord wash, unless you're Yngwie J. Malmsteen in which case you can get in= about 30 arpeggios... And you need to keep your foot on the pedal to engage the hold function. As it turns out, I already have a DOD DFX9 (bought from our very own Paul H= aslem - K/W's double threat of best plumber and hammered dulcimer player!) = which, according to http://www.americaspedal.net/dfx9/, it's loop/hold func= tion is 222-1000ms. Which means that the DD3 is pretty much the same as the DFX9.... Hmmmm.........go figure....I guess other than wanting a DD3 becaus= e I'm a Bill Frisell-wannabe, I don't really need it. ted h. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Mon, 11/16/09, scott hansen wrote: From: scott hansen Subject: dd3 v. #1 Echo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Monday, November 16, 2009, 9:50 AM well, i can't speak directly to this- i just looked up the the e-h #1 echo and on m-f.com it says it has 2 sec of= delay. i have a boss dd7, and the delay goes up to 6.something sec---and i'm not s= ure if i'm a huge fan of the supposed "6 sec", b/c to get the 6 sec you have to us= e the stereo out jack--so it's kind of a screwy thing-in my estimation. but i do use the 3.2 sec of delay a lot for my looping and you can get infi= nate delays going and modulate it to mess up the time etc....the thing w/ i= t w/ the level all the way up, it gets noisy FAST! but that can be good or = bad.... i don't remember what the dd3 had for max time, it seems each subsequent bo= ss dd pedal added a bit longer of delay option, the dd6 had up to 5 sec of = delay or something. useful at times. of course the dd7 has the sound on sound options for 40 sec, which i've=0A = used a bit, but not much.=20 a bit of info--not sure if it helps you....i'm most curious about the digit= ech hardware dl8 pedal--i would much prefer using 8 sec of delay than what = the dd7 offers, and when i was looking at pedals a yr ago, i got to try the= dd7 at the local GtrCntr so decided to stick w/ that...i didn't get to pla= y w/ the digitech dl8 much there..... oh well...as they say: happy hunting.... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________= __________________=0AThe new Internet Explorer=AE 8 - Faster, safer, easier= . 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Hey, Scott - thanks for the reply.
The DD3 hold function goes from 200-800ms, so, yeah, just enough time for = a chord wash, unless you're Yngwie J. Malmsteen in which case you can get i= n about 30 arpeggios...

And you need to keep your foot on the pedal = to engage the hold function.

As it turns out, I already have a DOD D= FX9 (bought from our very own Paul Haslem - K/W's double threat of best plu= mber and hammered dulcimer player!) which, according to http://www.americas= pedal.net/dfx9/, it's loop/hold function is 222-1000ms.

Which means = that the DD3 is pretty much the same as the DFX9....

Hmmmm....<pa= using>.....go figure....I guess other than wanting a DD3 because I'm a B= ill Frisell-wannabe, I don't really need it.


ted h.
Enemies a= re good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

--- On Mon, 11/16/09, scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com>
Subjec= t: dd3 v. #1 Echo
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Received: M= onday, November 16, 2009, 9:50 AM

well, i ca= n't speak directly to this-
i just looked up the the e-h #1 echo and on = m-f.com it says it has 2 sec of delay.

i have a boss dd7, and the de= lay goes up to 6.something sec---and i'm not sure if
i'm a huge fan of t= he supposed "6 sec", b/c to get the 6 sec you have to use the stereo
out jack--so it's kind of a screwy thing-in my estimation.
but i do use the= 3.2 sec of delay a lot for my looping and you can get infinate delays goin= g and modulate it to mess up the time etc....the thing w/ it w/ the level a= ll the way up, it gets noisy FAST! but that can be good or bad....

i= don't remember what the dd3 had for max time, it seems each subsequent bos= s dd pedal added a bit longer of delay option, the dd6 had up to 5 sec of d= elay or something.
useful at times.
of course the dd7 has the sound o= n sound options for 40 sec, which i've=0A used a bit, but not much.
a b= it of info--not sure if it helps you....i'm most curious about the digitech= hardware dl8 pedal--i would much prefer using 8 sec of delay than what the= dd7 offers, and when i was looking at pedals a yr ago, i got to try the dd= 7 at the local GtrCntr so decided to stick w/ that...i didn't get to play w= / the digitech dl8 much there.....
oh well...as they say: happy hunting.= ...
s---
www.myspace.com/scotthansen
=0A=0A

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--00504502d126c6e445047888ee7e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 17 07:52:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3755B3BE84; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:52:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <630BE56809CE4F1DAECDB23B304B986F@MichaelPC> From: To: "Posterous" Cc: Subject: The Crowdsourced Musical Collaboration Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:50:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0103_01CA6728.65A69850" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:52:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01CA6728.65A69850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A fun way of making music. Try playing with the various videos. It might = be even cooler if there was a way to save each production. http://www.openculture.com/2009/11/the_crowdsourced_musical_collaboration= .html ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01CA6728.65A69850 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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http://www.openculture.com/2009/11/the_crowdsourced_musica= l_collaboration.html ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01CA6728.65A69850-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 17 09:01:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBF953BE88; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B026627.5020003@virgin.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:00:23 +0000 From: Dave Draper Reply-To: dh.draper@virgin.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: dd3 v. #1 Echo References: <536990.13974.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <536990.13974.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-39F44B7F=======" X-Originating-Smarthost01-IP: [82.69.58.35] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:01:02 +0000 (UTC) --=======AVGMAIL-39F44B7F======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit scott hansen wrote: > well, i can't speak directly to this- > i just looked up the the e-h #1 echo and on m-f.com it says it has 2 sec > of delay. > > i have a boss dd7, and the delay goes up to 6.something sec---and i'm > not sure if > i'm a huge fan of the supposed "6 sec", b/c to get the 6 sec you have to > use the stereo > out jack--so it's kind of a screwy thing-in my estimation. > but i do use the 3.2 sec of delay a lot for my looping and you can get > infinate delays going and modulate it to mess up the time etc....the > thing w/ it w/ the level all the way up, it gets noisy FAST! but that > can be good or bad.... > > i don't remember what the dd3 had for max time, it seems each subsequent > boss dd pedal added a bit longer of delay option, the dd6 had up to 5 > sec of delay or something. > useful at times. > of course the dd7 has the sound on sound options for 40 sec, which i've > used a bit, but not much. > a bit of info--not sure if it helps you....i'm most curious about the > digitech hardware dl8 pedal--i would much prefer using 8 sec of delay > than what the dd7 offers, and when i was looking at pedals a yr ago, i > got to try the dd7 at the local GtrCntr so decided to stick w/ that...i > didn't get to play w/ the digitech dl8 much there..... > oh well...as they say: happy hunting.... > s--- > www.myspace.com/scotthansen > > I bought a DL8 a few months ago as a sort-of replacement for an old Digitech Time Machine which has blown its power supply (anyone out there in the UK able to fix this???). It kindof does what it says on the tin, but it's a disappointment. Yes, up to 8secs straight delay (can be tap-tempo'd), up to 20sec loop/overdub, various fashionable effects such as tape emulation, reverse echo etc, but some weird quirks like turning the feedback to max cuts the delay record! And trying to use the stereo out gives a ping-pong echo with half the stated delay time on one channel. A useful pedal, good value for money, but try before you buy; at Digital Village where I bought mine this wasn't possible!! Dave Draper --=======AVGMAIL-39F44B7F======= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-10101CCC=======" --=======AVGMAIL-10101CCC======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: "Certification" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.707 / Virus Database: 270.14.68/2507 - Release Date: 11/16/09 1= 9:53:00 --=======AVGMAIL-10101CCC=======-- --=======AVGMAIL-39F44B7F=======-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 17 09:40:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71F5E3BE84; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 288436469/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.142.127/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.142.127 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlADAD7+AUtPRo5//2dsb2JhbAAImSi9L4Q7BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,757,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="288436469" Message-ID: <4B026FAA.6050007@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:40:58 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: Re: dd3 v. #1 Echo(uk gear repairs) References: <536990.13974.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4B026627.5020003@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: <4B026627.5020003@virgin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-tCG9D.A.6a.H-mALB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Dave Draper wrote: > > I bought a DL8 a few months ago as a sort-of replacement for an old > Digitech Time Machine which has blown its power supply (anyone out there > in the UK able to fix this???). http://www.abeltronics.co.uk/audio-repairs.shtml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 17 10:55:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DE083BE88; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:55:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0CEC1893213046D8AD387DF1D150F36B@ELUK1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <536990.13974.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4B026627.5020003@virgin.net> <4B026FAA.6050007@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4B026FAA.6050007@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: dd3 v. #1 Echo(uk gear repairs) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:55:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:55:47 +0000 (UTC) From: "andy butler" > > Dave Draper wrote: > >> >> I bought a DL8 a few months ago as a sort-of replacement for an old >> Digitech Time Machine which has blown its power supply (anyone out there >> in the UK able to fix this???). > > > http://www.abeltronics.co.uk/audio-repairs.shtml Just another reason why I love being on this list. I too have a DigiTech 7.6 Time Machine - though bought in the US - that suddenly became too noisy to include in the signal chain (right before the VSV festival, typical!). I've inquired as to Abeltronics' rates, as I've also got a 1975 E-H Small Stone in need of loving care (it's been in a box awaiting care for some time). Stephen Goodman http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 17 11:14:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F8403BE84; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:14:39 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: dd3 v. #1 Echo In-Reply-To: <756768.83114.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <536990.13974.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <756768.83114.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20091117111453.1D377247CB@ns3.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:14:53 +0000 (UTC) >As it turns out, I already have a DOD DFX9 (bought from our very own >Paul Haslem - K/W's double threat of best plumber and hammered >dulcimer player!) which, according to >http://www.americaspedal.net/dfx9/, it's loop/hold function is 222-1000ms. 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X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2009 16:16:28.0463 (UTC) FILETIME=[51493BF0:01CA67A1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:17:13 +0000 (UTC) --_7e81819e-1442-453b-ba3f-c5946d623864_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guys=2C=20 Last time I tried to post stuff on here my inbox crapped out so Im here for= another try........ 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Have more than one Hotmail account? Link the= m together to easily access both. = --_7e81819e-1442-453b-ba3f-c5946d623864_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 17 16:50:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CF9D3BE82; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:50:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 288092473/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.142.127/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.142.127 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlADAMtiAktPRo5//2dsb2JhbAAImSi/MIQ7BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,758,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="288092473" Message-ID: <4B02D47D.3070704@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:51:09 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FS: Clear Out MicroKorg, Alesis ModFX, DL4 Fm4, Zoom References: <536990.13974.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4B026627.5020003@virgin.net>,<4B026FAA.6050007@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:50:33 +0000 (UTC) phillip wilson wrote: > > *Zoom 2120 -* older then the 707 but with some crazy extras such as > multipart looper built in...was the top in its day *£40* > that'll be the 2100 then From ts@vs250203.vserver.de Tue Nov 17 17:34:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 54573 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:34:52 UTC Received: from vs250203.vserver.de (vs250203.vserver.de [62.75.250.203]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119E53BE7C for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21674 invoked by uid 2524); 16 Nov 2009 22:56:11 +0100 Date: 16 Nov 2009 22:56:11 +0100 Message-ID: <20091116215611.21672.qmail@vs250203.vserver.de> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received A Hallmark E-Card! From: hallmark.com Content-Type: text/html
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 17 18:13:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A3763BE85; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <28809.72.22.1258481614.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:13:34 -0400 (AST) Subject: Andre's Angel#6...... I coulda been a contender From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Hi, This is a practice piece I did for my gig at the Santa Cruz loop fest. I took it with me just to remind myself what things I wanted to try and when. For a change I wanted to limit myself to looping only vocals, and nylon guitar. Fortunately(in retrospect), my laptop had plans of it's own and decided to do a total freak out session on me. I ended up having to wing it through the gig and eventually ended up borrowing a bass and looping pedal(line6 m9) for the rest of the festival from my Rick Walker. Thanks Rick. I'm still hoping to do a live video of it, maybe early next year, and try it again at the y2k10 fest. I know they were a lot of us that had technical problems at the fest. Anyone else have some clips for the "Contenders"? http://www.andredonawa.com/music-46.html http://www.andredonawa.com/audio/Angel%236_hifi.mp3 Andre http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 17 21:28:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EFA93BE85; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:28:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1258493308; bh=Z5Yxe8b5aZVAW4w03dfXmtWGR85w/3dAvrpYRGHiSVc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=r5/91FJ/7uD4JRHD7HAlwF2SHpPaUm3m2THvThqoHv64oiCmGkczizuPaGlTkKVtIRUIGcUpXO/pfIu3kgLHH8bnY6nvSHDcoJ4ADzQ5oE5SrKGzi3FI8Qh7Kn4p6jm1X9CWEzfMdhuOpFordtTDhg05eG8LcZmS3QZjpllIwTU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5jfMJGKGaxvI89aNBa7aTDg/jpmb54uq+1InOM/MjY2zZICUdvMDt1wDUCD2dCaX+1PbcVqRnyAVwa4L15O9MFAM9Yih4AtNlCvRhrDOugCS/izzBt2YRfRoZwZlU51fzY5kcmKU4rujN3eQ5eGAzolIFZLDkgJBGaIJnvyasZw=; Message-ID: <173891.93079.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: D0J6ZI4VM1npnl.FO85lc9e3eLwSsVkVI6J4j93YLOvHCCLvVnkLc.Gvp4TUczSjLf2Po9qwapaI5eQPl8dmHcmDen86reBq8rjKrAKXNE1IbgV23ExToLW7FCThmoRx12ImE4VURmUu_HJKDgrGAUYHr7.B5YXX8cmHdDQxIEMUJZhT_luTKPYuHqTsBekU_mqj7mtsiDskg0lRhUimVP8g3MH5KASnaRVESbsuLhGJgkYg0jj8qDvYABEZyUSCsUGjQ0km4HQP8S_a4VHO15bDF2fhQhMLe1yzwjxZOPxCw89BW9TjzqivKTBKeKATcYdOCwt1ma6VMSQcAY52iT0dKWhDmzmsN8akg2DQs4lW.3XHFek.14gYyoL7cRTVOJlDPv2RutDYmwWG8PeWMcfuIkK4wiTIsEA.xyfp0.pgHjSALe6wsp6wtvin9QpBz8dX1WU- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:28:28 -0800 (PST) From: scott hansen Subject: gitech dl-8 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-261332473-1258493308=:93079" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:28:29 +0000 (UTC) --0-261332473-1258493308=:93079 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks for the info on the dl-8, a bummer about it's little quirks, i had the same thing w/ the 1st digitech= digidelay- for some reason, when i put the feedback to 100%, it would not continue, it= would fade out, w/ the 4 sec of delay, which bummed me out. so i got rid of it. then a yr later, i decided to try one again, bought this one new, and the 1= 00% feedback worked great, and i used it a lot for short 4 sec loops. odd, oh well, guess you can never tell what's going on in the=A0 electronic= s w/ some pedals.... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen=0A=0A=0A --0-261332473-1258493308=:93079 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks for the info on the dl-8,
a bummer about it's little quirks, i had the same thing w/ the 1st dig= itech digidelay-
for some reason, when i put the feedback to 100%, it would not continu= e, it would fade out, w/ the 4 sec of delay, which bummed me out.
so i got rid of it.
then a yr later, i decided to try one again, bought this one new, and = the 100% feedback worked great, and i used it a lot for short 4 sec loops.<= /DIV>
odd, oh well, guess you can never tell what's going on in the  el= ectronics w/ some pedals....
s---

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 18 04:10:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A3063BE82; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=7FoH8P++u5Qft3CFLXuTctbRXg+DpyvR3efqu3dRVQg=; b=rrBvvOCOeuVt9pMPvG4KSddzCLI9IAXN52QPx7MszKwjwX5ixIOd+Pk37zgjmigKno 17Bl+RPTKp53yDr89hrzux3w7m/DJBVyDJb/XIlAMAbtAVODXNnQC0xoYoBlQ0Nbyl+B OG5o/j8R7dlT45bQlIhpeuINrkpnps5HgcMQA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=QpXJkqqKGstKQGi9grCNWrKnGLrYIgpPDVDvo9dT618ZI+uusr7K1Cctt/WdcC3jts I1+lg4r5MbaQgYCQvy4bYp9MROCGwG04Z9mk9dNXOpuYIMhT5QRz9FHnaIWBTeS9wA4f LFworsMcy3Y8cwji+LIHemkUkkxfA6JEC0Uf8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:10:09 -0500 Message-ID: <44e368750911172010y6a823002t11e42ccde8732915@mail.gmail.com> Subject: pci interface From: james fowler To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd58f12227c3e04789d6b36 Resent-Message-ID: <8KTytC.A.0HF.mO3ALB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:10:14 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd58f12227c3e04789d6b36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi. i'm planning on building my own pc for live audio processing and am curious if anybody has any experience with pci interfaces. i need 2-4 i/o and midi would be a nice addition and it looks like m-audio is my #1 pick. any and all advice or experience would be appreciated. thx. - jim --000e0cd58f12227c3e04789d6b36 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi.=A0 i'm planning on building my own pc for live audio processing and= am curious if anybody has any experience with pci interfaces.=A0 i need 2-= 4 i/o and midi would be a nice addition and it looks like m-audio is my #1 = pick.=A0 any and all advice or experience would be appreciated.

thx.

- jim
--000e0cd58f12227c3e04789d6b36-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 18 04:45:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 751E23BE84; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=MXYQ6RhOKQc14IqbLCBP1DYIUVUd5xRivXaFIAYRzxg=; b=vtZ4jP5TT0jb3OUe9p+ptrBcsLLSc23fIrylmVTuER1Vzxw754L6rPr6MU8liknpe9 K/tUsFPK0NDkHleA6q1JbPADEDY7Gp4TkBZDiO43z9HVFRZTWLCTD9685ztcP+LMcP4M DbC91sgnnZfhQVS19HFk/1imQOk7Th279v834= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=Bbf0d9GpyupSfkGGp7NPgrRRXlUANwlEtwMALZ689oQXcx0/3UBdvkmnGN7Gf5aFcA 45FTttKqwHv85+M9VaFBZznQ1fHfFYdMFx5LAMSnm13iqqBbZzcXhN/rZjg/ngGP19JD eu/AAI7xE8viVG8oYT3+yLEJpc4pEeuxooU0c= From: "Tony K" To: References: <44e368750911172010y6a823002t11e42ccde8732915@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <44e368750911172010y6a823002t11e42ccde8732915@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: pci interface Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:45:27 -0500 Message-ID: <001201ca6809$f3991250$dacb36f0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA67E0.0AC30A50" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-index: AcpoBQpGq2jhCassSRWADC8+9zRYOQABHObA Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:45:31 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA67E0.0AC30A50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James, I've been running an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 PCI for years and it's been great. They are about $99 these days. I've since upgraded to a Firepod, but not because I was unhappy with the 2496. The Firepod just has more I/O that I was looking for. Actually, I still run the 2496 as my default audio card for watching videos and gaming. Plus it gives me more MIDI ports. Tony From: james fowler [mailto:twostroke@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:10 PM To: loopers-delight Subject: pci interface hi. i'm planning on building my own pc for live audio processing and am curious if anybody has any experience with pci interfaces. i need 2-4 i/o and midi would be a nice addition and it looks like m-audio is my #1 pick. any and all advice or experience would be appreciated. thx. - jim ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA67E0.0AC30A50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

James,

 

I’ve been running an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 PCI = for years and it’s been great.  They are about $99 these days. I’ve = since upgraded to a Firepod, but not because I was unhappy with the 2496.  The Firepod = just has more I/O that I was looking for.  Actually, I still run the 2496 as my = default audio card for watching videos and gaming.  Plus it gives me more MIDI = ports.

 

Tony

 

From:= james = fowler [mailto:twostroke@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:10 PM
To: loopers-delight
Subject: pci interface

 

hi.  i'm planning on building my own pc for = live audio processing and am curious if anybody has any experience with pci interfaces.  i need 2-4 i/o and midi would be a nice addition and = it looks like m-audio is my #1 pick.  any and all advice or experience would = be appreciated.

thx.

- jim

------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CA67E0.0AC30A50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 18 07:09:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3AA43BE84; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <28809.72.22.1258481614.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Subject: RE: Andre's Angel#6...... I coulda been a contender Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:09:47 +0100 Message-ID: <003201ca681e$1d41f590$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <28809.72.22.1258481614.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Thread-Index: AcpoG8Ke2iGqu0wpSrSTbIUgbGE3EQAAjyqQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.1.70; VDF: 7.1.6.246) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:09:50 +0000 (UTC) > This is a practice piece I did for my gig at the Santa Cruz loop fest very nice Andre ... -Michael From watch@www3.jicinet.cz Wed Nov 18 08:04:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from www3.jicinet.cz (ns2.gradace-jc.cz [82.208.56.105]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7F53BE7C for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (www3.jicinet.cz [127.0.0.1]) by www3.jicinet.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id F009E5E15F8 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:27:21 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis-new at jicinet.cz Received: from www3.jicinet.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www3.jicinet.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oLfOOtV9Uhhj for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:27:21 +0100 (CET) Received: by www3.jicinet.cz (Postfix, from userid 5031) id 07BF25F03E8; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:08:48 +0100 (CET) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received A Hallmark E-Card! From: hallmark.com Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20091118045320.07BF25F03E8@www3.jicinet.cz> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:08:48 +0100 (CET)
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 18 08:41:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD03E3BE85; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:41:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Tfa3YMQ0224E0hrlmO0+dhf3GX7//bU9iHFM6JaUCCA=; b=m8rEWyKNoUy3ZF7V8M1opKxNHUdfHRBROKb9Nd7zYIF4DHCXMsGfze/b11Nf/YWgiE nY6WgopXI3sxIL1woIiCSp4Qo63T1CQ7niZkHtnGLyGfFR3Ab5OvaCS+DaC6Cgiplxnk Cb5ml5LHf9N3y+h5bnZCxCgn3NczDoYzhxiA8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ForkYcnty/qi75Qr36t300sfzfym8qydkstn0jwfVFzkB+CopiW2ln0vIXtSjVCN03 mw+xdpDBkBcncuSJ0t5+qlG6Gn7swCdMUpznQuRwnG4VThz7ZKDsrlqrkq8gq+D+7MCo iv66YDQbwQPw65w8SBAuzj7+FRpNA8ydoBoUE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <44e368750911172010y6a823002t11e42ccde8732915@mail.gmail.com> References: <44e368750911172010y6a823002t11e42ccde8732915@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:41:26 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911180041h6fe746ddw853d6af196e7ca54@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: pci interface From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:41:27 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:10 AM, james fowler wrote: > hi.=C2=A0 i'm planning on building my own pc for live audio processing an= d am > curious if anybody has any experience with pci interfaces.=C2=A0 i need 2= -4 i/o > and midi would be a nice addition and it looks like m-audio is my #1 pick= . > any and all advice or experience would be appreciated. > > thx. > > - jim Yes, before 2004 I always used PCI interfaces. Generally they are more sturdy and faster than firewire and USB, so you get less AD/DA latency. It's not possible to recommend one product before any other, you should pick one that meets your needs. If MIDI is not included on the PCI card it might just be good, since then you know that audio streaming will work optimally. There are loads of really cheap USB MIDI interfaces that you simply plug in without even needing software drivers. RME seems to be the company with the best track record in general, although specific products from other manufacturers may be just as good. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 18 09:39:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02DA33BE85; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:39:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5be2fc87-54b5-4330-a9c2-83d984a996e3_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: FS: Clear Out MicroKorg, Alesis ModFX, DL4 Fm4, Zoom Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:38:46 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4B02D47D.3070704@tiscali.co.uk> References: <536990.13974.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4B026627.5020003@virgin.net>,<4B026FAA.6050007@tiscali.co.uk> ,<4B02D47D.3070704@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2009 09:38:46.0902 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED19B960:01CA6832] Resent-Message-ID: <6Yj6IB.A.pz.qD8ALB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:39:54 +0000 (UTC) --_5be2fc87-54b5-4330-a9c2-83d984a996e3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2100........this is what happens when i use work time to post private adver= ts lol. so as before but with the zoom 2100 ta andy > Date: Tue=2C 17 Nov 2009 16:51:09 +0000 > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: FS: Clear Out MicroKorg=2C Alesis ModFX=2C DL4 Fm4=2C Zoom >=20 >=20 >=20 > phillip wilson wrote: > =20 > >=20 > > *Zoom 2120 -* older then the 707 but with some crazy extras such as=20 > > multipart looper built in...was the top in its day *=A340* > >=20 >=20 > that'll be the 2100 then >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/= --_5be2fc87-54b5-4330-a9c2-83d984a996e3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2100........this is what happens when i use work time to post private adver= ts lol.

so as before but with the zoom 2100

ta andy

&g= t=3B Date: Tue=2C 17 Nov 2009 16:51:09 +0000
>=3B From: akbutler@tisca= li.co.uk
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subjec= t: Re: FS: Clear Out MicroKorg=2C Alesis ModFX=2C DL4 Fm4=2C Zoom
>=3B=
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B phillip wilson wrote:
>=3B
>= =3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B *Zoom 2120 -* older then the 707 but with some= crazy extras such as
>=3B >=3B multipart looper built in...was the= top in its day *=A340*
>=3B >=3B
>=3B
>=3B that'll be t= he 2100 then
>=3B


Use Hotmail to send and = receive mail from your different email accounts. Find out how. = --_5be2fc87-54b5-4330-a9c2-83d984a996e3_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 18 09:52:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B499C3BE82; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:52:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f58ce822-13d2-4d1b-b2df-8c4d538b22fa_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: gitech dl-8 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:43:33 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <173891.93079.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <173891.93079.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2009 09:43:33.0763 (UTC) FILETIME=[98153D30:01CA6833] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:52:50 +0000 (UTC) --_f58ce822-13d2-4d1b-b2df-8c4d538b22fa_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi =2C im a big supported of the digitech delay and my take on it was that feedbac= k 0-97% of the knobs rotation equalled incresed feedback with 97% being con= tinuous...however the bit that was cool for me was that 100% SHUT OFF the i= nput to the delay but allowed it to keep playing ....which let me use the d= elay in a more loop orientated way=2C capturing audio then punching out to = solo over it without that solo being added=2C then drop the knob back sub %= 100 when i was ready to add in more. i thought it was a genius feature but that they didnt explain it properly t= o the audience. well thats how mine works. phill=20 Date: Tue=2C 17 Nov 2009 13:28:28 -0800 From: evanpeewee@yahoo.com Subject: gitech dl-8 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com thanks for the info on the dl-8=2C a bummer about it's little quirks=2C i had the same thing w/ the 1st digite= ch digidelay- for some reason=2C when i put the feedback to 100%=2C it would not continue= =2C it would fade out=2C w/ the 4 sec of delay=2C which bummed me out. so i got rid of it. then a yr later=2C i decided to try one again=2C bought this one new=2C and= the 100% feedback worked great=2C and i used it a lot for short 4 sec loop= s. odd=2C oh well=2C guess you can never tell what's going on in the electron= ics w/ some pedals.... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen =20 _________________________________________________________________ Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/= --_f58ce822-13d2-4d1b-b2df-8c4d538b22fa_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi =2C

im a big supported of the digitech delay and my take on it wa= s that feedback 0-97% of the knobs rotation equalled incresed feedback with= 97% being continuous...however the bit that was cool for me was that 100% = SHUT OFF the input to the delay but allowed it to keep playing ....which le= t me use the delay in a more loop orientated way=2C capturing audio then pu= nching out to solo over it without that solo being added=2C then drop the k= nob back sub %100 when =3B i was ready to add in more.

i thought= it was a genius feature but that they didnt explain it properly to the aud= ience.

well thats how mine works.

phill


Date: Tue=2C 17 Nov 2009 13:28:28 -0800
From: evanpeewee@yaho= o.com
Subject: gitech dl-8
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
thanks for the info on the dl-8=2C
a bummer about it's little quirks=2C i had the same thing w/ the 1st d= igitech digidelay-
for some reason=2C when i put the feedback to 100%=2C it would not con= tinue=2C it would fade out=2C w/ the 4 sec of delay=2C which bummed me out.=
so i got rid of it.
then a yr later=2C i decided to try one again=2C bought this one new= =2C and the 100% feedback worked great=2C and i used it a lot for short 4 s= ec loops.
odd=2C oh well=2C guess you can never tell what's going on in the = =3B electronics w/ some pedals....
s---



Have mo= re than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both. = --_f58ce822-13d2-4d1b-b2df-8c4d538b22fa_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 18 11:47:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 615C63BE7C; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_4af840f9-1119-4b2d-bf1f-f1cf9b1b3434_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: Taking VSTs out on the road Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:46:43 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <173891.93079.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2009 11:46:43.0010 (UTC) FILETIME=[CC6ADA20:01CA6844] Resent-Message-ID: <-jC7I.A.HTF.d79ALB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:47:41 +0000 (UTC) --_4af840f9-1119-4b2d-bf1f-f1cf9b1b3434_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmmm=2C=20 I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would start thinking ab= out this one.... virtual instruments!! basically I WILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in my music..= i cant explain why but I wont=2C its not my thing...EVER!! so now that hats out or the way im going to get all contrary.......... I have started to look at buying a used Korg PadKontrol=2C with the notion = of using it to create diatonic presets to use with my micro kord and EA1 sy= nths ( basically im not a keys player so i figure i will rule out the bum n= otes and play by feal through assigning custom scales to my pads). so I am quite far along this route when I realise that basically the keys o= f the microkorg and the knobs of the EA1 are now pretty moot..... BUT I STI= LL DONT WANT A LAPTOP!!! so basically and finally=2C is there a little box I can use without a scree= n and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice VSTi synth=2C some samples and po= ssibly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using a computer at the editing stage= ) and then unplug and just have it act similar to the "brain" of a v-drum b= asically a custom sound module ( or is there any really good midi sound mod= ules you can recommend for drums =2C ethnic precussion and synth sounds. also anyone using pads in a diatonic way like this? ta for the long read Phill From: phillwilson@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: gitech dl-8 Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 09:43:33 +0000 hi =2C im a big supported of the digitech delay and my take on it was that feedbac= k 0-97% of the knobs rotation equalled incresed feedback with 97% being con= tinuous...however the bit that was cool for me was that 100% SHUT OFF the i= nput to the delay but allowed it to keep playing ....which let me use the d= elay in a more loop orientated way=2C capturing audio then punching out to = solo over it without that solo being added=2C then drop the knob back sub %= 100 when i was ready to add in more. i thought it was a genius feature but that they didnt explain it properly t= o the audience. well thats how mine works. phill=20 Date: Tue=2C 17 Nov 2009 13:28:28 -0800 From: evanpeewee@yahoo.com Subject: gitech dl-8 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com thanks for the info on the dl-8=2C a bummer about it's little quirks=2C i had the same thing w/ the 1st digite= ch digidelay- for some reason=2C when i put the feedback to 100%=2C it would not continue= =2C it would fade out=2C w/ the 4 sec of delay=2C which bummed me out. so i got rid of it. then a yr later=2C i decided to try one again=2C bought this one new=2C and= the 100% feedback worked great=2C and i used it a lot for short 4 sec loop= s. odd=2C oh well=2C guess you can never tell what's going on in the electron= ics w/ some pedals.... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen =20 Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access bot= h. =20 _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/= --_4af840f9-1119-4b2d-bf1f-f1cf9b1b3434_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmmm=2C

I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would s= tart thinking about this one.... virtual instruments!!

basically I W= ILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in my music..i cant explai= n why =3B but I wont=2C its not my thing...EVER!!


so now tha= t hats out or the way im going to get all contrary..........


I h= ave started to look at buying a used Korg PadKontrol=2C with the notion of = using it to create diatonic presets to use with my micro kord and EA1 synth= s ( basically im not a keys player so i figure i will rule out the bum note= s and play by feal through assigning custom scales to my pads).

so I= am quite far along this route when I realise that basically the keys of th= e microkorg and the knobs of the EA1 are now pretty moot..... BUT I STILL D= ONT WANT A LAPTOP!!!


so basically and finally=2C is there a litt= le box I can use without a screen and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice V= STi synth=2C some samples and possibly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using= a computer at the editing stage) and then unplug and just have it act simi= lar to the "brain" of a v-drum basically a custom sound module ( or is ther= e any really good midi sound modules you can recommend for drums =2C ethnic= precussion and synth sounds.


also anyone using pads in a diaton= ic way like this?

ta for the long read

Phill


From: phillwilson@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers= -delight.com
Subject: RE: gitech dl-8
Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 09:43:= 33 +0000

hi =2C

im a big supported of the digitech delay and my take on it wa= s that feedback 0-97% of the knobs rotation equalled incresed feedback with= 97% being continuous...however the bit that was cool for me was that 100% = SHUT OFF the input to the delay but allowed it to keep playing ....which le= t me use the delay in a more loop orientated way=2C capturing audio then pu= nching out to solo over it without that solo being added=2C then drop the k= nob back sub %100 when =3B i was ready to add in more.

i thought= it was a genius feature but that they didnt explain it properly to the aud= ience.

well thats how mine works.

phill


Date: Tue=2C 17 Nov 2009 13:28:28 -0800
From: evanpeewee@y= ahoo.com
Subject: gitech dl-8
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=

=
thanks for the info on the dl-8=2C
a bummer about it's little quirks=2C i had the same thing w/ the 1st d= igitech digidelay-
for some reason=2C when i put the feedback to 100%=2C it would not con= tinue=2C it would fade out=2C w/ the 4 sec of delay=2C which bummed me out.=
so i got rid of it.
then a yr later=2C i decided to try one again=2C bought this one new= =2C and the 100% feedback worked great=2C and i used it a lot for short 4 s= ec loops.
odd=2C oh well=2C guess you can never tell what's going on in the = =3B electronics w/ some pedals....
s---



Have more t= han one Hotmail account?
Link them together to easily access both. =

Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your differ= ent email accounts. Find out how. = --_4af840f9-1119-4b2d-bf1f-f1cf9b1b3434_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 18 12:40:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B67B13BE7F; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9ca7ea07-d607-46b7-94b1-58aad02046d5_" X-Originating-IP: [81.153.157.168] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Taking VSTs out on the road Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:40:35 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <173891.93079.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2009 12:40:35.0701 (UTC) FILETIME=[53405A50:01CA684C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:40:36 +0000 (UTC) --_9ca7ea07-d607-46b7-94b1-58aad02046d5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You might want to check this out mate http://www.smproaudio.com/english/products/v-machines/v-pedal.html peace g From: phillwilson@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Taking VSTs out on the road Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 11:46:43 +0000 Hmmm=2C=20 I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would start thinking ab= out this one.... virtual instruments!! basically I WILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in my music..= i cant explain why but I wont=2C its not my thing...EVER!! so now that hats out or the way im going to get all contrary.......... I have started to look at buying a used Korg PadKontrol=2C with the notion = of using it to create diatonic presets to use with my micro kord and EA1 sy= nths ( basically im not a keys player so i figure i will rule out the bum n= otes and play by feal through assigning custom scales to my pads). so I am quite far along this route when I realise that basically the keys o= f the microkorg and the knobs of the EA1 are now pretty moot..... BUT I STI= LL DONT WANT A LAPTOP!!! so basically and finally=2C is there a little box I can use without a scree= n and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice VSTi synth=2C some samples and po= ssibly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using a computer at the editing stage= ) and then unplug and just have it act similar to the "brain" of a v-drum b= asically a custom sound module ( or is there any really good midi sound mod= ules you can recommend for drums =2C ethnic precussion and synth sounds. also anyone using pads in a diatonic way like this? ta for the long read Phill From: phillwilson@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: gitech dl-8 Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 09:43:33 +0000 hi =2C im a big supported of the digitech delay and my take on it was that feedbac= k 0-97% of the knobs rotation equalled incresed feedback with 97% being con= tinuous...however the bit that was cool for me was that 100% SHUT OFF the i= nput to the delay but allowed it to keep playing ....which let me use the d= elay in a more loop orientated way=2C capturing audio then punching out to = solo over it without that solo being added=2C then drop the knob back sub %= 100 when i was ready to add in more. i thought it was a genius feature but that they didnt explain it properly t= o the audience. well thats how mine works. phill=20 Date: Tue=2C 17 Nov 2009 13:28:28 -0800 From: evanpeewee@yahoo.com Subject: gitech dl-8 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com thanks for the info on the dl-8=2C a bummer about it's little quirks=2C i had the same thing w/ the 1st digite= ch digidelay- for some reason=2C when i put the feedback to 100%=2C it would not continue= =2C it would fade out=2C w/ the 4 sec of delay=2C which bummed me out. so i got rid of it. then a yr later=2C i decided to try one again=2C bought this one new=2C and= the 100% feedback worked great=2C and i used it a lot for short 4 sec loop= s. odd=2C oh well=2C guess you can never tell what's going on in the electron= ics w/ some pedals.... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen =20 Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access bot= h. =20 Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. Fi= nd out how. =20 _________________________________________________________________ Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/= --_9ca7ea07-d607-46b7-94b1-58aad02046d5_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You might want to check this out mate

http://www.smproaudio.com/engl= ish/products/v-machines/v-pedal.html

peace

g


From: phillwilson@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers= -delight.com
Subject: Taking VSTs out on the road
Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov= 2009 11:46:43 +0000

Hmmm=2C

I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would s= tart thinking about this one.... virtual instruments!!

basically I W= ILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in my music..i cant explai= n why =3B but I wont=2C its not my thing...EVER!!


so now tha= t hats out or the way im going to get all contrary..........


I h= ave started to look at buying a used Korg PadKontrol=2C with the notion of = using it to create diatonic presets to use with my micro kord and EA1 synth= s ( basically im not a keys player so i figure i will rule out the bum note= s and play by feal through assigning custom scales to my pads).

so I= am quite far along this route when I realise that basically the keys of th= e microkorg and the knobs of the EA1 are now pretty moot..... BUT I STILL D= ONT WANT A LAPTOP!!!


so basically and finally=2C is there a litt= le box I can use without a screen and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice V= STi synth=2C some samples and possibly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using= a computer at the editing stage) and then unplug and just have it act simi= lar to the "brain" of a v-drum basically a custom sound module ( or is ther= e any really good midi sound modules you can recommend for drums =2C ethnic= precussion and synth sounds.


also anyone using pads in a diaton= ic way like this?

ta for the long read

Phill


From: phillwilson@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loop= ers-delight.com
Subject: RE: gitech dl-8
Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 09:= 43:33 +0000

hi =2C

im a big supported of the digitech delay and my take on it wa= s that feedback 0-97% of the knobs rotation equalled incresed feedback with= 97% being continuous...however the bit that was cool for me was that 100% = SHUT OFF the input to the delay but allowed it to keep playing ....which le= t me use the delay in a more loop orientated way=2C capturing audio then pu= nching out to solo over it without that solo being added=2C then drop the k= nob back sub %100 when =3B i was ready to add in more.

i thought= it was a genius feature but that they didnt explain it properly to the aud= ience.

well thats how mine works.

phill


Date: Tue=2C 17 Nov 2009 13:28:28 -0800
From: evanpeewe= e@yahoo.com
Subject: gitech dl-8
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.= com

<= tr>
thanks for the info on the dl-8=2C
a bummer about it's little quirks=2C i had the same thing w/ the 1st d= igitech digidelay-
for some reason=2C when i put the feedback to 100%=2C it would not con= tinue=2C it would fade out=2C w/ the 4 sec of delay=2C which bummed me out.=
so i got rid of it.
then a yr later=2C i decided to try one again=2C bought this one new= =2C and the 100% feedback worked great=2C and i used it a lot for short 4 s= ec loops.
odd=2C oh well=2C guess you can never tell what's going on in the = =3B electronics w/ some pedals....
s---



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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 18 13:05:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6390F3BE82; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: catch.all@mancingdolecules.com X-Originating-IP: [82.247.8.105] In-Reply-To: References: <173891.93079.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:05:10 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8a42b895a85b31a2 Message-ID: <225f88f00911180505k1e795c21t4b066bbb8d96d5be@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out on the road From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_=2D_Mancing_Dolecules?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Damn, I didn't know this v-pedal, it's sexy ! I wasn't able to find the price of this thing, any info ? A classic player in the "vst hidden in hardware" area is muse research : http://www.museresearch.com/, but now that I've seen the v-pedal, I find it less attractive :p. Rapha=EBl 2009/11/18 Gareth Whittock > > You might want to check this out mate > > http://www.smproaudio.com/english/products/v-machines/v-pedal.html > > peace > > g > > ________________________________ > From: phillwilson@hotmail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Taking VSTs out on the road > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:46:43 +0000 > > Hmmm, > > I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would start thinking = about this one.... virtual instruments!! > > basically I WILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in my music= ..i cant explain why=A0 but I wont, its not my thing...EVER!! > > > so now that hats out or the way im going to get all contrary.......... > > > I have started to look at buying a used Korg PadKontrol, with the notion = of using it to create diatonic presets to use with my micro kord and EA1 sy= nths ( basically im not a keys player so i figure i will rule out the bum n= otes and play by feal through assigning custom scales to my pads). > > so I am quite far along this route when I realise that basically the keys= of the microkorg and the knobs of the EA1 are now pretty moot..... BUT I S= TILL DONT WANT A LAPTOP!!! > > > so basically and finally, is there a little box I can use without a scree= n and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice VSTi synth, some samples and poss= ibly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using a computer at the editing stage) = and then unplug and just have it act similar to the "brain" of a v-drum bas= ically a custom sound module ( or is there any really good midi sound modul= es you can recommend for drums , ethnic precussion and synth sounds. > > > also anyone using pads in a diatonic way like this? > > ta for the long read > > Phill > > ________________________________ > From: phillwilson@hotmail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: gitech dl-8 > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:43:33 +0000 > > hi , > > im a big supported of the digitech delay and my take on it was that feedb= ack 0-97% of the knobs rotation equalled incresed feedback with 97% being c= ontinuous...however the bit that was cool for me was that 100% SHUT OFF the= input to the delay but allowed it to keep playing ....which let me use the= delay in a more loop orientated way, capturing audio then punching out to = solo over it without that solo being added, then drop the knob back sub %10= 0 when=A0 i was ready to add in more. > > i thought it was a genius feature but that they didnt explain it properly= to the audience. > > well thats how mine works. > > phill > > ________________________________ > Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:28:28 -0800 > From: evanpeewee@yahoo.com > Subject: gitech dl-8 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > thanks for the info on the dl-8, > a bummer about it's little quirks, i had the same thing w/ the 1st digite= ch digidelay- > for some reason, when i put the feedback to 100%, it would not continue, = it would fade out, w/ the 4 sec of delay, which bummed me out. > so i got rid of it. > then a yr later, i decided to try one again, bought this one new, and the= 100% feedback worked great, and i used it a lot for short 4 sec loops. > odd, oh well, guess you can never tell what's going on in the=A0 electron= ics w/ some pedals.... > s--- > www.myspace.com/scotthansen > > ________________________________ > Have more than one Hotmail account? 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 18 13:12:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EBBF3BE87; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:12:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20846.72.22.1258549932.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <003201ca681e$1d41f590$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <28809.72.22.1258481614.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <003201ca681e$1d41f590$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:12:12 -0400 (AST) Subject: RE: Andre's Angel#6...... I coulda been a contender From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:12:14 +0000 (UTC) Hey Michael, Thanks for listening. Andre On Wed, November 18, 2009 3:09 am, Michael Peters wrote: >> This is a practice piece I did for my gig at the Santa Cruz loop fest > > very nice Andre ... > > -Michael > > > Andre Donawa Barbados Guitar School Woodside Gardens Bay St. St. Michael Barbados 11157 Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) 246 436 8294 (School) http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 18 13:33:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C75AD3BE86; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B03F7BF.70500@virgin.net> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:33:51 +0000 From: Dave Draper Reply-To: dh.draper@virgin.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: dd3 v. #1 Echo(uk gear repairs) References: <0CEC1893213046D8AD387DF1D150F36B@ELUK1> In-Reply-To: <0CEC1893213046D8AD387DF1D150F36B@ELUK1> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-0C805690=======" X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [82.69.58.35] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:33:39 +0000 (UTC) --=======AVGMAIL-0C805690======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stephen Goodman wrote: >
From: "andy > butler" >> >> Dave Draper wrote: >> >>> >>> I bought a DL8 a few months ago as a sort-of replacement for an old >>> Digitech Time Machine which has blown its power supply (anyone out >>> there in the UK able to fix this???). >> >> >> http://www.abeltronics.co.uk/audio-repairs.shtml > > Just another reason why I love being on this list. I too have a > DigiTech 7.6 Time Machine - though bought in the US - that suddenly > became too noisy to include in the signal chain (right before the VSV > festival, typical!). I've inquired as to Abeltronics' rates, as I've > also got a 1975 E-H Small Stone in need of loving care (it's been in a > box awaiting care for some time). > > Stephen Goodman > http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman > http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman > >
> Thanks for that Andy, and Stephen; I too have an ailing (ailed? addled?) Small Stone, as well as a Microsynth, Wahwah, etc etc, which need attention....! I'll see what these guys have to say. Dave --=======AVGMAIL-0C805690======= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-303C15B4=======" --=======AVGMAIL-303C15B4======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: "Certification" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.707 / Virus Database: 270.14.72/2511 - Release Date: 11/18/09 0= 7:50:00 --=======AVGMAIL-303C15B4=======-- --=======AVGMAIL-0C805690=======-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 18 13:42:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FB543BE85; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_84da5d52-b0a6-4496-9ba9-4dba645dae71_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: Taking VSTs out on the road Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:40:58 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <173891.93079.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,,, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2009 13:40:58.0511 (UTC) FILETIME=[C29D49F0:01CA6854] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:42:07 +0000 (UTC) --_84da5d52-b0a6-4496-9ba9-4dba645dae71_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wow thats so strange=2C your message came in as i was watching a video on the box version on yourtu= be !!! great minds etc etc=20 also liking the sonic cell as a more trad midi unit=2C anyone use one? does= it have drums? on another note=2C i just went out for a walk and thought that i may be abl= e to achieve what i want for a controller usint my HDP 10 and 15..... can y= ou send midi outs in the smae patches as you have inbuilt sounds? if so it = would be a case of taking my badly named kits Kit 1 =2C Kit 2 etc and renameing them C=2CD=2CE=2CF=2CG etc and have each= kit also send out a scale....i would then choose wether i use the handsoni= c or the korg synth just by A?B switching to un mute. very excited now=2C cant wait to get home if tis works!! From: buddhamachine@live.co.uk To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Taking VSTs out on the road Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 12:40:35 +0000 You might want to check this out mate http://www.smproaudio.com/english/products/v-machines/v-pedal.html peace g From: phillwilson@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Taking VSTs out on the road Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 11:46:43 +0000 Hmmm=2C=20 I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would start thinking ab= out this one.... virtual instruments!! basically I WILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in my music..= i cant explain why but I wont=2C its not my thing...EVER!! so now that hats out or the way im going to get all contrary.......... I have started to look at buying a used Korg PadKontrol=2C with the notion = of using it to create diatonic presets to use with my micro kord and EA1 sy= nths ( basically im not a keys player so i figure i will rule out the bum n= otes and play by feal through assigning custom scales to my pads). so I am quite far along this route when I realise that basically the keys o= f the microkorg and the knobs of the EA1 are now pretty moot..... BUT I STI= LL DONT WANT A LAPTOP!!! so basically and finally=2C is there a little box I can use without a scree= n and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice VSTi synth=2C some samples and po= ssibly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using a computer at the editing stage= ) and then unplug and just have it act similar to the "brain" of a v-drum b= asically a custom sound module ( or is there any really good midi sound mod= ules you can recommend for drums =2C ethnic precussion and synth sounds. also anyone using pads in a diatonic way like this? ta for the long read Phill From: phillwilson@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: gitech dl-8 Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 09:43:33 +0000 hi =2C im a big supported of the digitech delay and my take on it was that feedbac= k 0-97% of the knobs rotation equalled incresed feedback with 97% being con= tinuous...however the bit that was cool for me was that 100% SHUT OFF the i= nput to the delay but allowed it to keep playing ....which let me use the d= elay in a more loop orientated way=2C capturing audio then punching out to = solo over it without that solo being added=2C then drop the knob back sub %= 100 when i was ready to add in more. i thought it was a genius feature but that they didnt explain it properly t= o the audience. well thats how mine works. phill=20 Date: Tue=2C 17 Nov 2009 13:28:28 -0800 From: evanpeewee@yahoo.com Subject: gitech dl-8 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com thanks for the info on the dl-8=2C a bummer about it's little quirks=2C i had the same thing w/ the 1st digite= ch digidelay- for some reason=2C when i put the feedback to 100%=2C it would not continue= =2C it would fade out=2C w/ the 4 sec of delay=2C which bummed me out. so i got rid of it. then a yr later=2C i decided to try one again=2C bought this one new=2C and= the 100% feedback worked great=2C and i used it a lot for short 4 sec loop= s. odd=2C oh well=2C guess you can never tell what's going on in the electron= ics w/ some pedals.... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen =20 Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access bot= h. =20 Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts. Fi= nd out how. =20 New! Receive and respond to mail from other email accounts from within Hotm= ail Find out how. =20 _________________________________________________________________ Add your Gmail and Yahoo! Mail email accounts into Hotmail - it's easy http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/= --_84da5d52-b0a6-4496-9ba9-4dba645dae71_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wow thats so strange=2C

your message came in as i was watching a vid= eo on the box version on yourtube !!! great minds etc etc

also liki= ng the sonic cell as a more trad midi unit=2C anyone use one? does it have = drums?

on another note=2C i just went out for a walk and thought tha= t i may be able to achieve what i want for a controller usint my HDP 10 and= 15..... can you send midi outs in the smae patches as you have inbuilt sou= nds? if so it would be a case of taking my badly named kits
Kit 1 =2C Ki= t 2 etc and renameing them =3B C=2CD=2CE=2CF=2CG etc and have each kit = also send out a scale....i would then choose wether i use the handsonic or = the korg synth just by A?B switching to un mute.

very excited now=2C= cant wait to get home if tis works!!


From: = buddhamachine@live.co.uk
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subj= ect: RE: Taking VSTs out on the road
Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 12:40:35 += 0000

You might want to check this out mate

http://www.smproaudio.com/engl= ish/products/v-machines/v-pedal.html

peace

g


From: phillwilson@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loop= ers-delight.com
Subject: Taking VSTs out on the road
Date: Wed=2C 18 = Nov 2009 11:46:43 +0000

Hmmm=2C

I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would s= tart thinking about this one.... virtual instruments!!

basically I W= ILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in my music..i cant explai= n why =3B but I wont=2C its not my thing...EVER!!


so now tha= t hats out or the way im going to get all contrary..........


I h= ave started to look at buying a used Korg PadKontrol=2C with the notion of = using it to create diatonic presets to use with my micro kord and EA1 synth= s ( basically im not a keys player so i figure i will rule out the bum note= s and play by feal through assigning custom scales to my pads).

so I= am quite far along this route when I realise that basically the keys of th= e microkorg and the knobs of the EA1 are now pretty moot..... BUT I STILL D= ONT WANT A LAPTOP!!!


so basically and finally=2C is there a litt= le box I can use without a screen and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice V= STi synth=2C some samples and possibly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using= a computer at the editing stage) and then unplug and just have it act simi= lar to the "brain" of a v-drum basically a custom sound module ( or is ther= e any really good midi sound modules you can recommend for drums =2C ethnic= precussion and synth sounds.


also anyone using pads in a diaton= ic way like this?

ta for the long read

Phill


From: phillwilson@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@l= oopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: gitech dl-8
Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 = 09:43:33 +0000

hi =2C

im a big supported of the digitech delay and my take on it wa= s that feedback 0-97% of the knobs rotation equalled incresed feedback with= 97% being continuous...however the bit that was cool for me was that 100% = SHUT OFF the input to the delay but allowed it to keep playing ....which le= t me use the delay in a more loop orientated way=2C capturing audio then pu= nching out to solo over it without that solo being added=2C then drop the k= nob back sub %100 when =3B i was ready to add in more.

i thought= it was a genius feature but that they didnt explain it properly to the aud= ience.

well thats how mine works.

phill


Date: Tue=2C 17 Nov 2009 13:28:28 -0800
From: evanpe= ewee@yahoo.com
Subject: gitech dl-8
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com

thanks for the info on the dl-8=2C
a bummer about it's little quirks=2C i had the same thing w/ the 1st d= igitech digidelay-
for some reason=2C when i put the feedback to 100%=2C it would not con= tinue=2C it would fade out=2C w/ the 4 sec of delay=2C which bummed me out.=
so i got rid of it.
then a yr later=2C i decided to try one again=2C bought this one new= =2C and the 100% feedback worked great=2C and i used it a lot for short 4 s= ec loops.
odd=2C oh well=2C guess you can never tell what's going on in the = =3B electronics w/ some pedals....
s---



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Link them together to easily access bo= th. = --_84da5d52-b0a6-4496-9ba9-4dba645dae71_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 18 13:43:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A8203BE86; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lsykuIFVXryWppKsMD9bO46qBOqnVVJ6KkpsYdRSIcY=; b=mWKH8YOioambwaS1SyeoH6qQK5BNTzxjDGNVbwVP49CgJMKyBN0yQxnAsns02Ge7Be /1ZEm71a9jlq1mdnd6UZCQ/hjI11YDtlM2iNLDuNNfey3Ti0gqseu1LLfbc+XVNh9YLe gIiHwnnfBsi9IGBZrezot3hCIjtwjO6yDKSbc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TWdr+arVsJFwlqKbhocfnb1LivxhnXlOMYbvvuRWnw1U1v95dnCIad9aYtyOY45yXk iIiWlSLD64T7xHObl90aoiVrHpN1zsyX2dIjKNSCbSkwOKwByv2YZgocxxy8x4bXqgjC YvT3lOtES+5NRTOxFPyNpoUl8zjHkWLb+bdzM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20846.72.22.1258549932.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <28809.72.22.1258481614.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <003201ca681e$1d41f590$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <20846.72.22.1258549932.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:43:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Andre's Angel#6...... I coulda been a contender From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Hi Andre, Forget about the tech probs at y2k9, it's all about the music and this is good stuff my friend. Thanks for sharing, feels like I'm on holiday in the Caribbean ;-) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 18 14:36:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C3583BE85; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Fjxw5foQbFMUrdaPOVvp+e/dqEmltJF6hVOFDzJ4+J8=; b=CBFTLS/sVfgpCwxc82xNv5Nu8wJixjwy8l3iEfPNKUJcZrAnqtFgZ4vvteVLDity5v s9VzEAWp5D7e2kW54jnSNAZAU22AXB1O7QGbj+ErkUW6u5ZqOoBfCQtJ2+DbI7+U4h8/ wnh8G7AUlrdh0kIspZ3c1aao69PxpJ75542ys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=a7R45gd8L760+r25lReKAHzCWdRVlHVgSZOP2Ub/ONVwKDv6oJKxqpD2QIZmW2DmC6 foZBOqaF24GhyKCQXBlEpjuJTgePdx9ii4mAhXUSBOwnE+tA05Nqgnt4aJnE3yZgW6ig eV8W3zOJ7Wlg5w1dvEr1xzT9Jif0vmuivEBiw= Message-ID: <4B040669.2030205@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:36:25 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: monome as foot controller References: <658147.72748.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <741B6432-68E4-4312-BAE1-400A64FE643B@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <741B6432-68E4-4312-BAE1-400A64FE643B@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <2JzN7C.A.nCE.wZABLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Zoe Keating schrieb: > while i'm in fantasy land....the ability to change the "bank" of the > pedal with my Kbow...and each pad will light up with 1 of 4 colors to > tell me what bank i'm in. > > not cheap...but possibly worth it. Should be possible to build cheaper than a Kbow...;-) On the other hand you could still use normal footswitches and have the visual feedback with a Launchpad or Monome... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 18 14:54:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60BC03BE87; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:54:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Fjxw5foQbFMUrdaPOVvp+e/dqEmltJF6hVOFDzJ4+J8=; b=P9zJcU8qRZcsQos114fFWCAYbVjBD9aVAGnKf8L+ymBJNT9YXsCzydUkihnPKHfLjO uhN95uMtAg9K/gDzPwYZtxvwq3/NSEu23HSuusxeHD8NS2HViAFW0LQvNR0N1nohs4Vc cwgKOb3dNhp5tfBDHRe5ocCz8KsGGoQ4ROq4Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NjkSYLxtftIGZcjHExsQs/2hqtvU2AHtZRzk9E3Igr/ITFas89cf4htXaDc+wH+53O /dK1H2vlbBCWvtylQgS/P/llMHUjhK7M6exWE7V3ulQ7TerJbJHEMVeoRfh+gM1yrpou Gs6B+2ML4pdV8+QPUDzQ1f6RsoUtBIenLz5xc= Message-ID: <4B040A95.50602@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:54:13 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: monome as foot controller References: <658147.72748.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <741B6432-68E4-4312-BAE1-400A64FE643B@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <741B6432-68E4-4312-BAE1-400A64FE643B@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:54:19 +0000 (UTC) Zoe Keating schrieb: > while i'm in fantasy land....the ability to change the "bank" of the > pedal with my Kbow...and each pad will light up with 1 of 4 colors to > tell me what bank i'm in. > > not cheap...but possibly worth it. Should be possible to build cheaper than a Kbow...;-) On the other hand you could still use normal footswitches and have the visual feedback with a Launchpad or Monome... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 18 17:09:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E292D3BE82; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:09:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=GaEjJSS5QSILJ+19FXw66tNuu03ebMQQHW9SJRmiiAs=; b=Q6LAxKj2AR1X2CLtsopdF09i1YOAOjPAYFF0FTHQ6pRloiXW7n2IjyLuqSHws1kLSu fH3b/yjo2DRvPFMxfNuEJFWFqju0VxHxu8fhVM0b/Jm/csxkQrtzmUOzEQNfgRcWYG4j Z5uTyKH7e6AzRVWdHkdsLbSkI35hwFKm1PSUA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=AJ+HqSUEDAF6Yy1gIJKiwllrn/6XmA7T4IH6zCQ/J80ULRLk5eIOqjYdbBxk2ZzdFn ElhQJTRreTDheKA6lh4zSrX9/PDqGUT8AOi2c0yNdEVNItz6+udQ4iTwWvuJxg4YcyGx ceG8ZMryN2bKQaB39YiIuxetK0T6jLk49URTw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:09:44 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0911180909n386954c8m882d09c998819004@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Taking VSTs out on the road From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:09:46 +0000 (UTC) > is there a little box I can use without a screen and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice VSTi synth, some samples and possibly a good drunm kit Others have already mentioned the two hardware solutions I'm aware of (being the SMPro V series and the Muse Receptor), so I'd like to take one step backwards: Basically, while the idea behind those devices is nice, it's worth mentioning that some plugins may not run on those systems or only run with some limitations. Both manufacturers have lists of plugins which are known to run well, so it may make sense to check those. Still, you got the issue of licenses - the way I understand it, to use e.g. Reaktor on your VPedal and edit things on your computer will require you to obtain two licenses. So my suggestion: why don't you look for something in hardware that gives you flexible synth and sampler (and possibly FX) structures and access to a big drum library? I would suggest something like a Kurzweil K2500R or K2600R in combination with e.g. an Akai MPD24 as a controller - or integrate it all and get an Akai MPC. One word of caution: the older instruments (and this includes the Kurzweils and at least all but the latest MPCs) use SCSI for sample data transfer. This may be a limitation with regard to integrating it into your production environment. Yours, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 18 17:16:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82A6E3BE86; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <23490.72.22.1258564566.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: References: <28809.72.22.1258481614.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <003201ca681e$1d41f590$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <20846.72.22.1258549932.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:16:06 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Andre's Angel#6...... I coulda been a contender From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Hey Sjaak, Thanks for the listen. Looking forward to your album. Andre On Wed, November 18, 2009 9:43 am, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Hi Andre, > Forget about the tech probs at y2k9, it's all about the music and this > is good stuff my friend. 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Thank you, Rev John Erick Edwards Clarification Officer Telephone Number: +447624132116 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 18 20:48:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 671033BE87; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 851 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:48:16 UTC Message-Id: <7E0510C2-F4D3-4F70-8A43-8017BFE07E25@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4B040A95.50602@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: AW: monome as foot controller Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:34:00 -0800 References: <658147.72748.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <741B6432-68E4-4312-BAE1-400A64FE643B@zoekeating.com> <4B040A95.50602@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Server-Quench: b490d1dc-d481-11de-97bb-002264978518 X-Report-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwRVfTQRGRpo UEhAUlBSHgZsCxwA SBkYTBtzaQNDZn9x bFlgW3JeQ0Q0KzcE OSYcEhEGYGRoYWJR UURedE0GdApKKh4R OU0rUHsMfGQGMi99 TlA5NXVpZW8FdngE HVFQdAIEe0tZVhcD FVgHGjMoGEBNTj57 IRshNhYXG0ANKEI2 NVY7MQAA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.1014:706/Kp Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:48:17 +0000 (UTC) hopefully cheaper than the Kbow, yes! but "normal" footswitches are exactly what i don't want. i'm sold on =20 the light rubber pads....or even better...sensor pads On Nov 18, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Zoe Keating schrieb: >> while i'm in fantasy land....the ability to change the "bank" of =20 >> the pedal with my Kbow...and each pad will light up with 1 of 4 =20 >> colors to tell me what bank i'm in. >> not cheap...but possibly worth it. > > Should be possible to build cheaper than a Kbow...;-) > On the other hand you could still use normal footswitches and have =20 > the visual feedback with a Launchpad or Monome... > > Stefan > > > --=20 > Les Ondes M=E9morielles---------x-- > --_____-----------|-----------|-- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()----------TJ Shredder > From calendar-invite@reply.yahoo.com Wed Nov 18 21:55:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from n3.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (n3.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.127.223]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F7A73BE73 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:54:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [68.142.194.244] by n3.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2009 21:54:54 -0000 Received: from [209.191.92.46] by t2.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2009 21:54:54 -0000 Date: 18 Nov 2009 13:54:54 -0800 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by web202.cal.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Nov 2009 21:54:54 -0000 x-yahoo-newman-errors: calendar-invite.nvzf6ylmnfvwc4tfmvwtaobdnnsc2mjsgu4dkobrgi4tillnojpwc3djnnqxezlfnuydqi3lmq5dcnzqha-looparc=loopersdelight.com@returns.bulk.yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-to: mr_alikareem08@yahoo.fr Errors-To: mr_alikareem08@yahoo.fr From: Mr Ali Kareem To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Subject: Are you capable, X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: calendar-invite X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: mr_alikareem08#kd-1258581294-mr_alikareem08#kd:1708 X-Yahoo-Calendar-Iid: qhBWrPdc4I0x%40G7PLxAKYpd%40oBBbBN4Me%40%40fmFnbX9v%40 X-RocketSRV: siu=http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/pim/el/inv16_1.gif;siw=16;sih=16;allow=all Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="YCalInvites=EPJEqZ1ZOyHc63HeMK1258581292-1" Message-Id: <20091118215504.0F7A73BE73@arsenic.violacea.com> --YCalInvites=EPJEqZ1ZOyHc63HeMK1258581292-1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Invitation : "Are you capable,". 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This e-mail is strictly confidential and is for your attention only.I am making this venture proposal to you as a reliable person who can be capable to handle this transaction with me.I discovered that nobody knows anything about this account and that if I do not remit this fund out urgently it will be forfeited for nothing.With my position in this bank,I have the opportunity of transfering the left over funds($10.2million) of one of my bank's clients who died along with his entire family on 31 july 2000 on a plane crash.You can confirm the genuiness of the deceased death by clicking on this website. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/859479.stm Before I contacted you for this I have perfected the strategies that will ensure a successful transfer of the fund into your account,so it's hitch-free you should not entertain any atom of fear at all.I am only contacting you as a foreigner because this fund cannot be approved to any Burkinabe Citizen here, but can only be approved to any foreigner because the money is in US Dollars and the owner of the account is a foreigner too.Hence, I am inviting you for a business deal where this fund can be shared between us in the ratio of 60/40. 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Rue:   Dear Friend,I apologise for intruding into your privacy.And I know this revelation will keep you wondering why should I trust you with this informations I am about to reveal to you or if what I am saying is the truth.Meanwhile,what to reveal to you is simple truth and it's just my urgent need for foreign partner that made me to contact you for this transaction.I am a banker by profession from Burkina faso in west Africa and currently holding the post of Executive Auditor and Head Of Computing Department in my bank. This e-mail is strictly confidential and is for your attention only.I am making this venture proposal to you as a reliable person who can be capable to handle this transaction with me.I discovered that nobody knows anything about this account and that if I do not remit this fund out urgently it will be forfeited for nothing.With my position in this bank,I have the opportunity of transfering the left over funds($10.2million) of one of my bank's clients who died along with his entire family on 31 july 2000 on a plane crash.You can confirm the genuiness of the deceased death by clicking on this website. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/859479.stm Before I contacted you for this I have perfected the strategies that will ensure a successful transfer of the fund into your account,so it's hitch-free you should not entertain any atom of fear at all.I am only contacting you as a foreigner because this fund cannot be approved to any Burkinabe Citizen here, but can only be approved to any foreigner because the money is in US Dollars and the owner of the account is a foreigner too.Hence, I am inviting you for a business deal where this fund can be shared between us in the ratio of 60/40. If you agree to my venture proposal, kindly furnish me with your personal information as thus:1.Full Name:2.Home Address:3.Age & Sex:4.Current Occupation:5.Private E-mail Address:6.Private Telephone number for easy communication.Upon receipt of those information,I shall in turn use it to prepare an Application For Claim and submit to the Management Of the Bank on your behalf applying for immediate release of the total fund to you as the beneficiary.Please your urgent attention to this regards will be highly appreciated for immediate process.Contact with my private email: kareem_a@sify.com Yours Sincerely,MR.ALI KAREEM.
 
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--YCalInvites=EPJEqZ1ZOyHc63HeMK1258581292-1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 19 00:50:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02EF93BE86; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <173891.93079.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out on the road Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:49:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: <1UuhoD.A.lxF.8YJBLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:50:04 +0000 (UTC) from: phillip wilson >I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would start thinking >about this one.... virtual instruments!! > >basically I WILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in my >music..i cant explain why but I wont, its not my thing...EVER!! > >so basically and finally, is there a little box I can use without a screen >and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice VSTi synth, some samples and >possibly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using a computer at the editing >stage) and then unplug and just have it act similar to the "brain" of a >v-drum basically a custom sound module ( or is there any really good midi >sound modules you can recommend for drums , ethnic precussion and synth >sounds. > >Sounds like a small computer with a specialized input-display module, >perhaps LCD with a few navigation buttons. Oh wait, that's most appliances >including hard disk recording satellite boxes. No actually, if you had >your setup already pre-configured, and made to load at bootup, it'd work as >a PC without keyboard, mouse or but I suspect the best config for this >would be a rack unit that supports VSTs in a flexible way. On the side I'm quite happy with the new FL Studio, since they enabled easy sample-recording at run-time or trigger/etc, whether it's audio input or midi keyboard. Up to this point the program's been best to me as a drum composition tool, and the rest seemed like a sample artist's tool as opposed to other modes composing... Stephen Goodman http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 19 04:02:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 270893BE80; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_fe5c60ce-5d78-43b7-b623-e6d76f191843_" X-Originating-IP: [67.52.82.50] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:02:30 -0600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <8CC30262757CB98-88E0-A6EA@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com> References: ,<8CC30262757CB98-88E0-A6EA@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2009 04:02:30.0424 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D654180:01CA68CD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:02:33 +0000 (UTC) --_fe5c60ce-5d78-43b7-b623-e6d76f191843_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable no problemo my friend =3Bo) thankyou for watching them and thankyou for taking time to send some love m= y way- even though i wish i could be self sufficient and give myself all the motiv= ation i needed to survive as an artist=2C hearing back from complete strang= ers is what helps me keep going =3Bo) =20 and thus you are no longer a stranger=2C but a valued friend- =20 cheers! fro =20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- Date: Tue=2C 10 Nov 2009 09:06:37 -0500 From: nemoguitt@aol.com "The Sermon" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw "How you waste it" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA what a fantastic way to wake up!.....thanks and good luck fro!.....m = =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/= --_fe5c60ce-5d78-43b7-b623-e6d76f191843_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
no problemo my friend =3Bo)
thankyou for watching them and =3Bthankyou for taking time to send some= love my way-
even though i wish i could be self sufficient and give myself all the motiv= ation i needed to survive as an artist=2C hearing back from complete strang= ers is what helps me keep going =3Bo)
 =3B
and thus you are no longer a stranger=2C but a valued friend-
 =3B
cheers!
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 =3B

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: FRO videos for your= viewing pleasure-
Date: Tue=2C 10 Nov 2009 09:06:37 -0500
From: nemo= guitt@aol.com


"The= Sermon"
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"How you waste it"
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wha= t a fantastic way to wake up!.....thanks and good luck fro!.....m

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Processed in 0.008437 secs); 17 Nov 2009 20:37:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO User) (fsu@ioe.edu.np@196.1.177.187) by 0 with ESMTPA; 17 Nov 2009 20:37:39 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Mr.Gregor Williams" Subject: CONTACT HIM TODAY Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:32:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Message-ID: <1258490262764336@makalu.ioe.edu.np> Message-Id: <20091119073937.0104B3BE7C@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Hello My Good Friend Good day and how are you today? Hope all is well with you and your family? I am using this opportunity to inform you that this multi-million-dollar business has been concluded with the assistance of another partner from India who financed the transaction to a logical conclusion. Due to your effort sincerity courage and trustworthiness you showed during the course of the transaction. I have left a certified international bank cheque for you worth of $1,200 000.00 Million Dollars cashable anywhere in the world. Contact: Mr.Garry Blue Cotonou Benin Republic. His email address: garry_blue004@yahoo.com.hk Therefore you should send him your full Name and telephone number/your correct mailing address where you want him to send the cheque to you. Thanks and God bless you and your family. Mr.Gregor Williams From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 19 08:33:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DDA73BE84; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:33:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=XW8TY3BsydoJdJz3vcvZu4qqwCA+ZzMNj8pJDELPhBM=; b=RchKeTl+DmHyzEw4jKtwYf6i5FH7wwW0ZcAo4fcVbfYJovlLnFQ2VdkRFR2hq7nqWx NYabpQj/+DCVts6UXRJ9nEFzPPEiKQwn/6vKBCi/C7Ggkst2tIBhOApyoU2+p/GmtBE4 +KlEiZ9aq2FJ0K0AqNqUccT1upQCl6aiKqhME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=g+itB4sKIGHKjZEQuaZOBFFcxSLEet6I30ZNqW3qhrdRqincqNfXzdOoQ8YLOKku5w duafUxsvzAgnZ90b5KyBFa0SNHCmEtxUxeglpEdkBbBaO00UMJwLGbUw0uzfrso1IX71 N1A0sBi4IqwIT9xlRcdV005BdhzpjsV+s8Gt4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <173891.93079.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:33:32 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ea259adc78419c1e Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0911190033x399536fbw7f2d8cb69c5d5b5c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out on the road To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce04504145fae0478b53877 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:33:53 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce04504145fae0478b53877 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > from: phillip wilson > >> I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would start thinking >> about this one.... virtual instruments!! >> >> basically I WILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in my >> music..i cant explain why but I wont, its not my thing...EVER!! >> >> so basically and finally, is there a little box I can use without a scre= en >> and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice VSTi synth, some samples and >> possibly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using a computer at the editing >> stage) and then unplug and just have it act similar to the "brain" of a >> v-drum basically a custom sound module ( or is there any really good mid= i >> sound modules you can recommend for drums , ethnic precussion and synth >> sounds. >> >> There are some vst hardware hosts, but therey are either rather pricey, or lacking in something.. I was looking into this for a bit, same reason, prefer hardware... but I wanted to put some vst=B4s that I had programmed i= nto a little box... never found a good thing... On the question of good sources of sounds ethnic or otherwise, I am really seriously loking at the Proteus series of modules.. they are OLD NOW, and relitively cheap on ebay, plus the ROM cards are interchangable some if you get one model, you can stuff in some ROMS form another, so 3 rack spaces ca= n be 1... I DONT have one yet, but have been drooling for a year or so now..= . http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --000e0ce04504145fae0478b53877 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
from: phillip wilson
I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would start thinking ab= out this one.... virtual instruments!!

basically I WILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in = my music..i cant explain why =A0but I wont, its not my thing...EVER!!

so basically and finally, is there a little box I can use without a screen = and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice VSTi synth, some samples and possib= ly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using a computer at the editing stage) an= d then unplug and just have it act similar to the "brain" of a v-= drum basically a custom sound module ( or is there any really good midi sou= nd modules you can recommend for drums , ethnic precussion and synth sounds= .


There are some vst hardware hosts, b= ut therey are either rather pricey, or lacking in something.. I was looking= into this for a bit, same reason, prefer hardware... but I wanted to put s= ome vst=B4s that I had programmed into a little box... never found a good t= hing...

On the question of good sources of sounds ethnic or otherwise, I am rea= lly seriously loking at the Proteus series of modules.. they are OLD NOW, a= nd relitively cheap on ebay, plus the ROM cards are interchangable some if = you get one model, you can stuff in some ROMS form another, so 3 rack space= s can be 1...=A0 I DONT have one yet, but have been drooling for a year or = so now...




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--000e0ce04504145fae0478b53877-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 19 10:02:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E8353BE80; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+t/HwxlGSQzCGvTxanCadd9oooFd76QxW3K9w6FnR5s=; b=GUEaUH8tIkWI0bF02JQMOm585hUuyIHT0kMHDbntm5o7jhjkXIcIpBJTw95rnv4f0E W8Y4bICj/lZVTnxW8rFOpiCg6r+rlTo6Z68cfZ46RHx9q/vHwre/kzqNN7n7f6mCtrXe RSYnXfZxBtq/CsparuxmKBFZSeenpxi669KME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=L+FByNPhHXCMjf8zSv8yPoc4eOkaSLxrPOBEP2vgcVDSwCOhN2lpzS44s8ucJsqEAX DifFyc7nfN5bUKWiLaJB3alxiUkd2egJYfaitMY7GkGXUJ+P7sz7E6xZPd53/mL+vuUi dWC3rsAfxcyAFLgw/bt32izUM0KdRQW5UhTIg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0911190033x399536fbw7f2d8cb69c5d5b5c@mail.gmail.com> References: <173891.93079.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0911190033x399536fbw7f2d8cb69c5d5b5c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:02:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out on the road From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:02:20 +0000 (UTC) > There are some vst hardware hosts, but therey are either rather pricey, o= r > lacking in something.. I was looking into this for a bit, same reason, > prefer hardware... but I wanted to put some vst=B4s that I had programmed= into > a little box... never found a good thing... The Receptor is good but expensive. Regarding the SMPro V-series: I haven't seen many reviews yet, but here's one. http://emusician.com/aux_hardware/sm-pro-audio-vmachine-review/index1.html I have been struggling with hardware vs software dilemma for a long time. Despite the fact that I'm a programmer , I didn't want to go laptop on stage because I was afraid of stability issues. Anyway, after almost a year, I have changed my mind. Stable operating systems do exists as well as stable VST or AU hosts and plugins and if you have the discipline to threat a laptop as a hardware unit and use it for music only, it works as a breeze. Keep in mind that "instability" issues can be caused by the VST plugins itself, which means a hardware host like receptor or V-rack will probably behave the same. > On the question of good sources of sounds ethnic or otherwise, I am reall= y > seriously loking at the Proteus series of modules.. they are OLD NOW, and > relitively cheap on ebay, plus the ROM cards are interchangable some if y= ou > get one model, you can stuff in some ROMS form another, so 3 rack spaces = can > be 1...=A0 I DONT have one yet, but have been drooling for a year or so n= ow... I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO, they sounds a little dated compared to more recent rack units. More recent alternatives are the Yamaha Motif ES rack, Roland XV-5050, Roland Fantom-X rack, Roland Sonic cell. The Roland have the advantage that they support the Srx expansion cards with additional wave rom and patches. I have used the SRX-09 World Collection Exp. Board and it sounded very good. Btw: SRX cards fit in many Roland synths and modules. --=20 Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From cythia.mershark@administrativos.com Thu Nov 19 10:55:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 578 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:55:32 UTC Received: from linux1.pureteserver.com (linux1.pureteserver.com [189.1.170.63]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053243BE7E for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:55:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3405 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2009 08:33:21 -0200 Received: from unknown (HELO User) (82.128.38.202) by linux1.pureteserver.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2009 08:33:20 -0200 Reply-To: From: "Cynthia Mershark" Subject: Please Read Carefully Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:44:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20091119105532.053243BE7E@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Good day, I am Ms. Cynthia Mershark, I am a US citizen, 48 years Old. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 19 12:16:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 481733BE85; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=J+jAcMRBBwErq62rdVhNQKxK7m9KabJQAH5XoGSPa2Y=; b=XrZNghTeADCdBbr0qUQiXiUo6JFEQJzyCMjkadsVi6+wktIZqb51ZVnTQi1eVsIYnR xNBhWPD4lr0kbF1MWB2B1P4ursb353RVMujAlEG+nbKUt5KSuKBcjwAmNO3SrzHPbxtF L+tHZ2xplM/c8XDAP6U3olP+m/TK5ijb5v/lI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=WSR0/HXCz9VrCEH1ruXlH3D/5Dqfwp/kqjCOatf3tgWqHst0xKITK1TlydJ+XWj+HC uZbxwsfC2spfiyOUX7eOynvzCKeA3/IPUwoId91kNoGGouJpMBjQKjzH/HZRXrsrnf3j XhLlRCuDz0Bjn+yGEmjrccBqhYARkusFEwccY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <173891.93079.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0911190033x399536fbw7f2d8cb69c5d5b5c@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:15:51 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0c013a2058dcabbb Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0911190415n19eb7383nec96cae511706616@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out on the road To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cdf6d04260b710478b853a7 Resent-Message-ID: <66lrAC.A.9mC.NcTBLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:16:13 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cdf6d04260b710478b853a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO, they sounds a little > dated compared to more recent rack units. > Sjaak Overgaauw Im sure you are right Sjaak, I have heard this myself... it didnt deter me too much cos I have never been able to afford "the latest things" and Im not really sure what dated means. I still use the EDP for example. ha ha! By the time most of my sound sources hit the mixer, they have been effected to f*** and enjoy mis-treating old gear and spend hours tweaking and mangling patches. I am certainly going to be reading up on all the interesting alternative you have quoted however. My suggestion was merely meant as something one can get quite cheap nowadays. The Receptor really looks like a cool box, but I wil never afford one in my wildest dreams, so I dont go there!!!! I would however be interested in a box with hard drive, with enough space to keep a bunch of VSTs in, that you can load one at a time. Preferably with a bunch of programmable knobs right there... I want something where I load a VST, configure the knobs to what that instrument needs, and then save it, for later recall. I can use my Fireworx for most things, but I have made s few cool VSTs in my time, and would love them in my rack! One such is the Tap-slicer.. a slicer VST where the "holes" that the slice makes are filled in by delay from just before the slice.. in multiple taps.. Can nearly do it using 2 EDPs on delay mode and a slice on the Fireworx.. but its not the same. -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --000e0cdf6d04260b710478b853a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO, they sounds a litt= le
dated compared to more recent rack units.
Sjaak Overgaauw

Im sure you are right Sjaak, I = have heard this myself... it didnt deter me too much cos I have never been = able to afford "the latest things" and Im not really sure what da= ted means. I still use the EDP for example. ha ha! By the time most of my s= ound sources hit the mixer, they have been effected to f*** and enjoy mis-t= reating old gear and spend hours tweaking and mangling patches. I am certai= nly going to be reading up on all the interesting alternative you have quot= ed however. My suggestion was merely meant as something one can get quite c= heap nowadays.

The Receptor really looks like a cool box, but I wil never afford one i= n my wildest dreams, so I dont go there!!!! I would however be interested i= n a box with hard drive, with enough space to keep a bunch of VSTs in, that= you can load one at a time. Preferably with a bunch of programmable knobs = right there... I want something where I load a VST, configure the knobs to = what that instrument needs, and then save it, for later recall.
I can use my Fireworx for most things, but I have made s few cool VSTs in m= y time, and would love them in my rack!=A0 One such is the Tap-slicer.. a s= licer VST where the "holes" that the slice makes are filled in by= delay from just before the slice.. in multiple taps.. Can nearly do it usi= ng 2 EDPs on delay mode and a slice on the Fireworx.. but its not the same.=





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--000e0cdf6d04260b710478b853a7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 19 12:32:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16CB53BE81; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:32:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VIrnCk29qrX1M0sE/d3wKEtoDsm78ImDJtXjeEiDXtI=; b=Gm3auGxhyoeBEHjQCNkNyC7W4XiDzc5o6fu0eCzEOFsJB5yx+g0qTj4fvb7ScLi/EH K342mTZkiP/wt1CTcS11vq1mpZbRMJN8CWQUTgiL9Pds2TgsrfJc+LYcC8F6ly1VUnxW jydp0vapx4kgikFRnVaKQ/5SyZ3Ztn8QX6RgQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PN2o76e09u3JLgZ4kCI40G6MhutT6AM4xOly+e6OTSgGV+7wEDVTXqxlaIdw6ntV3H //3BZtZ0XwymsZbXDXQmeoBoLUmZR/iOFPsr1FMQcZIXPB/oMnq+rXisbvKXmbPRJ4Yq JfgQT0pH4wZclYpAhc+zm1eQW0TSNiQcBBpM4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0911190415n19eb7383nec96cae511706616@mail.gmail.com> References: <173891.93079.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0911190033x399536fbw7f2d8cb69c5d5b5c@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0911190415n19eb7383nec96cae511706616@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:31:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out on the road From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <4qXZL.A.JzD.ArTBLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:32:01 +0000 (UTC) > My suggestion was merely meant as something one can get quite cheap nowadays. If you plan to mangle the sounds with FX, the Emu Proteus series is definitely interesting. Btw: one of my favourite Emu modules was the Vintage Keys (plus), imo one of the best "analog imitation" modules around at the time. Lot's of cool (I think) Emulator samples :) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 19 14:49:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 163E23BE82; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_bcd64aa2-ea5a-463d-b50f-79591308951f_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: Taking VSTs out on the road Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:47:41 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0911190415n19eb7383nec96cae511706616@mail.gmail.com> References: <173891.93079.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> , ,<9ab0c76f0911190033x399536fbw7f2d8cb69c5d5b5c@mail.gmail.com>,,<9ab0c76f0911190415n19eb7383nec96cae511706616@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2009 14:47:41.0042 (UTC) FILETIME=[3EB8CD20:01CA6927] Resent-Message-ID: <21Nv5C.A.SIE.irVBLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:49:07 +0000 (UTC) --_bcd64aa2-ea5a-463d-b50f-79591308951f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow=2C so much good info once again on here =2C thanks to all....and keep it comin= g...the more you know ...etc!! The VSTi thing has turned out to be a bit of a rred hering to me at the mom= ent=2C it dosnt give me what i need yet really.=20 the sound synth and sampler modules are starting to really interest me i am= ebaying and youtubing in tamdem and think i will pick up some fun quirky b= oxes to work with=2C i liked the look of the Mo Fat synth module and expand= ing it with the techno card they do...looks like a good way to get new tone= s. I went home last night and worked on the handsonic microkorg xl combination= and it worked like a dream. very simple setup which gives me a huge 80 potential user defined scales to play with=2C im just trying to work out= how best ot organise them!!! massivly happy with this find tho. next thought on this is that i could probably look for a korg micro sampler= which with the addition of some downloaded samples would let me create som= e fantastic new kits and ethnic stuff ( hang drum is what i am reeeeeallly = gagging for) the only thing i wish the handsonic could to is switch betwee= n a few samples depending on velocity this would let me strike soft and get= hang drum tones or harder to get more percussive slaps...is there any way = to set this up? thanks for all your help and keep the info comeing=2C i love learning this = stuff. phill From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Thu=2C 19 Nov 2009 13:15:51 +0100 Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out on the road To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO=2C they sounds a little dated compared to more recent rack units.=20 Sjaak Overgaauw Im sure you are right Sjaak=2C I have heard this myself... it didnt deter m= e too much cos I have never been able to afford "the latest things" and Im = not really sure what dated means. I still use the EDP for example. ha ha! B= y the time most of my sound sources hit the mixer=2C they have been effecte= d to f*** and enjoy mis-treating old gear and spend hours tweaking and mang= ling patches. I am certainly going to be reading up on all the interesting = alternative you have quoted however. My suggestion was merely meant as some= thing one can get quite cheap nowadays. The Receptor really looks like a cool box=2C but I wil never afford one in = my wildest dreams=2C so I dont go there!!!! I would however be interested i= n a box with hard drive=2C with enough space to keep a bunch of VSTs in=2C = that you can load one at a time. Preferably with a bunch of programmable kn= obs right there... I want something where I load a VST=2C configure the kno= bs to what that instrument needs=2C and then save it=2C for later recall. I can use my Fireworx for most things=2C but I have made s few cool VSTs in= my time=2C and would love them in my rack! One such is the Tap-slicer.. a= slicer VST where the "holes" that the slice makes are filled in by delay f= rom just before the slice.. in multiple taps.. Can nearly do it using 2 EDP= s on delay mode and a slice on the Fireworx.. but its not the same. --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch =20 _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/= --_bcd64aa2-ea5a-463d-b50f-79591308951f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow=2C

so much good info once again on here =2C thanks to all....and= keep it coming...the more you know ...etc!!

The VSTi thing has turn= ed out to be a bit of a rred hering to me at the moment=2C it dosnt give me= what i need yet really.

the sound synth and sampler modules are st= arting to really interest me i am ebaying and youtubing in tamdem and think= i will pick up some fun quirky boxes to work with=2C i liked the look of t= he Mo Fat synth module and expanding it with the techno card they do...look= s like a good way to get new tones.

I went home last night and worke= d on the handsonic microkorg xl combination and it worked like a dream. ver= y simple setup which gives me a huge

80 potential user defined scale= s to play with=2C im just trying to work out how best ot organise them!!! m= assivly happy with this find tho.

next thought on this is that i cou= ld probably look for a korg micro sampler which with the addition of some d= ownloaded samples would let me create some fantastic new kits and ethnic st= uff ( hang drum is what i am reeeeeallly gagging for) =3B the only thin= g i wish the handsonic could to is switch between a few samples depending o= n velocity this would let me strike soft and get hang drum tones or harder = to get more percussive slaps...is there any way to set this up?

than= ks for all your help and keep the info comeing=2C i love learning this stuf= f.

phill


From: mark@markfrancombe.com=
Date: Thu=2C 19 Nov 2009 13:15:51 +0100
Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out= on the road
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com



I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO=2C they sounds a little<= br> dated compared to more recent rack units.
Sjaak Overgaauw

Im sure you are right Sjaak=2C = I have heard this myself... it didnt deter me too much cos I have never bee= n able to afford "the latest things" and Im not really sure what dated mean= s. I still use the EDP for example. ha ha! By the time most of my sound sou= rces hit the mixer=2C they have been effected to f*** and enjoy mis-treatin= g old gear and spend hours tweaking and mangling patches. I am certainly go= ing to be reading up on all the interesting alternative you have quoted how= ever. My suggestion was merely meant as something one can get quite cheap n= owadays.

The Receptor really looks like a cool box=2C but I wil never afford one= in my wildest dreams=2C so I dont go there!!!! I would however be interest= ed in a box with hard drive=2C with enough space to keep a bunch of VSTs in= =2C that you can load one at a time. Preferably with a bunch of programmabl= e knobs right there... I want something where I load a VST=2C configure the= knobs to what that instrument needs=2C and then save it=2C for later recal= l.
I can use my Fireworx for most things=2C but I have made s few cool VSTs in= my time=2C and would love them in my rack! =3B One such is the Tap-sli= cer.. a slicer VST where the "holes" that the slice makes are filled in by = delay from just before the slice.. in multiple taps.. Can nearly do it usin= g 2 EDPs on delay mode and a slice on the Fireworx.. but its not the same.<= br>




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Find out how. = --_bcd64aa2-ea5a-463d-b50f-79591308951f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 19 14:57:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A7303BE82; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:57:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=E+TdMfaRfQmIHB95EggQa5Ss0MQeKaq7B8qqerwbYOE=; b=ET5ht7aJ6IEXE0R4/9yKfTDuDba0cMfYA0udYdSk3Qw37hWMQPATo66zsFK/NYpSFK SWj0h6bkclq7VuPdgScGKBHd1JiTXtddc3hr7pHZRV2z+hMo+qfXVct2D1BBHxavuRok XtNYIpszACBhcrSZ4PS6y+JSg+AyrRurpMGK8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kMpm9wk+26Cx0tOZpGBN8rMimzk8qLYGxqQNQFveJph4ErAeXtwtSNInyPaHd2FTV5 h1kcsLfja4T1BsRdWe61zG0jmcC5oBL2H1P/ZvDLRFkn2ikq+Y+3NDsA5yIdQycgUPM7 cd/Ex5ghce6qHgGLRalEvFShhhbtwZFAX1/SQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:57:17 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0911190657j7e7e159do1cd25098d379090e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: Taking VSTs out on the road From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:57:20 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak said: > I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO, they sounds a little dated "I have owned a Steinway Model D but IMO, it sounds a little dated..." Some synths tend to sound dated after a while. Good ones don't. Of course, to keep the things from sounding dated may require you to actually invest the time and brains to get into programming some sounds yourself. E-mu's Proteus series modules (especially the later ones) offer great possibilities for that. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 19 14:57:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 369C93BE8D; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:57:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=E+TdMfaRfQmIHB95EggQa5Ss0MQeKaq7B8qqerwbYOE=; b=JG9qqo+eZCTPSztSJK44lz2GrogESRH9JQk16V7lqwP1FYf0BqE2e3qX1sWOJSxNY0 psgzrIoRT9zIVJv9rrvN9h7FVwmJFI58Yys30TUiroOu9qbJQbChilWuMpGi/XAIYEvb G+NDxbZJUz19s2wm4w5eoGIinY6GvguXg9x/I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=HTNO69WBZ4461q/7fwyf1o2d35zOWty+3ApGzxj6kucgoPw8Tp2zPbtzvx3kxekLej wUamDHpHImxnKel4Fh9pdyU8AEhYc6An0SyIsecOngAcIEuj0WRk+xNho1dth+23JBhf sY/KOAfNm67KJxPBy1RAl2VdipZwstd0N8gu0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:56:47 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0911190656h86adb29qee1f126969a8253f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: Taking VSTs out on the road From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:57:21 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak said: > I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO, they sounds a little dated "I have owned a Steinway Model D but IMO, it sounds a little dated..." Some synths tend to sound dated after a while. Good ones don't. Of course, to keep the things from sounding dated may require you to actually invest the time and brains to get into programming some sounds yourself. E-mu's Proteus series modules (especially the later ones) offer great possibilities for that. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 19 16:57:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16AA63BE82; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1796 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:57:24 UTC X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on server03.gorrie X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=00.1 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_NONE=0.1 autolearn=disabled version=3.2.4 Message-ID: <20091119112723.35411uwer6jc5l28@www.wightman.ca> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:27:23 -0500 From: phaslem@wightman.ca To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Taking VSTs out on the road References: <7334ca1b0911190657j7e7e159do1cd25098d379090e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0911190657j7e7e159do1cd25098d379090e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) X-Originating-IP: 216.16.232.115 X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30; InfoPath.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:57:24 +0000 (UTC) just because it has come up, I have a Sonic Cell, barely used that I'm looking to sell. It's up here in Canada, so there could be duties to pay to send it across the border. No problems with it, I just couldn't use it with my guitar synth in the way I had hoped and went to using Reason instead. Paul Haslem Quoting Rainer Straschill : > Sjaak said: >> I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO, they sounds a little dated > "I have owned a Steinway Model D but IMO, it sounds a little dated..." > > Some synths tend to sound dated after a while. Good ones don't. Of > course, to keep the things from sounding dated may require you to > actually invest the time and brains to get into programming some > sounds yourself. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 19 19:58:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA3AF3BE82; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:58:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1RnLqORPb6Hm5wge5t1eR3J9/mA05zOr9HfZYRGD7PE=; b=T+1qzcxPsDvfhai4HmC62hc5UZGDihu4EjxCxy0kRKADkc3MzPIGCJURPP/SpSllZK tJKGwJw/JvoAvJt1ZSAw8vaJLH9LN5IZTiSwo2bKrKtssw3Bg8pAiift4wJyLbNFkPWB KxV81XCS83GyXHUcg+m/ving6bW/LXjxxndEI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UYIN0+asA85DKlTY4DzMgZCijbY/aglnJ6prdxxxkqyEvL2yChjM0MvtJQLRA6ARMo ANEJQ8g9kgIEBAd+Ap9GR1dAaetFgzvbXDpKGnHZqfnm9M3m+3HMeMby/r5W7jxjusjv yTsdAtOZU4UtJJAhllG2nRH5H+3igKDY2Qn+4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0911190657j7e7e159do1cd25098d379090e@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0911190657j7e7e159do1cd25098d379090e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:58:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out on the road From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:58:32 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Some synths tend to sound dated after a while. Good ones don't. Of > course, to keep the things from sounding dated may require you to > actually invest the time and brains to get into programming some > sounds yourself. E-mu's Proteus series modules (especially the later > ones) offer great possibilities for that. The early Emu models like the Procussion and the Proteus 1 sound a little flat IMO, but with fx, Eq and compression, they came to live in a mix. Also, the avg quality of rom samples is better now than in the late 80's and 90's so that another reason...if you are looking for real instruments sounds like piano, trumpets. Especially piano's are a good example of how technology has improved. Anyway, that's what I mean with "dated", not saying that every synth has to sound like the real deal which was clearly THE trend in the 80's and 90's. Once the VA's and analog synths were becoming popular in the mid 90's, the "best rompler synth" race was more or less over...but that's another story :) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 19 20:20:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 895343BE92; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:20:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YI0O+LyQUnk8GShofYH+HJkj1uwttbq9YaQNNLBhnZM=; b=sB/DMea577bPCVw/gOkf3fO41KXGsi4bU8UUbpswbn1MngIMiRcJ4ElCUeiH0b5tcJ izVrFegDN9+bOI/h/UjmIKHXhBCDmktoaJFpCziwhmytJZNb88GREYLY1734DmMeN/IS x8+QPmy2oDeHiw34rF2yHYqjZCWpvwQS4dUzg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MU7JdjcKiFAlwdSx9lXDTCXAKL5ytZ0415VcAMX41ytxw0NrS3krukXjDqXd1FWD/S KIWbj/yX/HNKZ+ah06Xee0L2e5rqSgi5lgBGLpnZOGJ/kLheaAJiOgOvTDiyMN/W0yq4 WVIBY6qQwJLl9AQnxWhpkWR00Gi5s7YmZzPVs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0911190657j7e7e159do1cd25098d379090e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:20:26 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911191220h7a2c6392gfffc15aeb7cb9ebd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out on the road From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:20:30 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Proteus 1 sound a > little flat IMO I still have my old Proteus 1 that I ordered direct from USA in the eighties before any Scandinavian companies picked importing the unit. The "crappy" sound has a certain charm to it. A warning though, the Proteus has a rather slow MIDI response. I could work around that when sequencing it, but for live playing I'm not sure it totally measures up. Today I have to use it with a computer because the unit's LCD window has grown unreadable ;-) The P1 offers powerful sound patch programming options but I remember I kind of missed a good sounding LFO controlled resonance filter. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 19 20:25:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B12923BEA2; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:subject :date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :in-reply-to:thread-index:x-mimeole; bh=Dz4fpgosSexx4iagq+xGoLWDKUghPslvo2FPSrUq0UQ=; b=lkHv/5yYcpoBiR5snyePf6TfdMEOIRBXqlgv1WTpLpITY0zlqXkfaVjLKivGRwqKsk YGjeVx7ZOtOaB5XznHUdqLlC2R1dSNqBVOtsItVRXnD6SDfGh2T5jjzKV3mFGqqJgYGL IUINLF5yi/bQjMApC5/IPBZULThJK8STBQUx4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:in-reply-to:thread-index :x-mimeole; b=EmxTCKlGIie2OrkHr3iijSpsG0aUOC1nRxItI4frV8rl1kCqmPAzwH6L/IKnGSzDgE qee1YVz1ESWdb+qOtUhd1vdxQH/9njp09PH6N2oKwFtqOlvemah9Mkaeqoi4ARE3gOje 9sSVW7BVU+55/iFFXcmOegRY6EffL2C1Tj+bk= Message-ID: <4b05a9ae.0e1abc0a.62f9.230a@mx.google.com> From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Taking VSTs out on the road Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:25:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcppUq8ihxm+LclsTr2pbSpObd4XIwAAprUg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:25:22 +0000 (UTC) > another reason...if you are looking for real instruments > sounds like piano, trumpets. Especially piano's are a good > example of how technology has improved. If I remember correctly, Phil was looking for "synth sounds" (meaning "synthetic", not emulations of acoustic instruments) and drums/world percussion. The E-mu series (which wasn't my recommendation btw) is fine for the synth stuff due to the flexibility of its engine. And I daresay that even drums and world percussion sound fine if e.g. a Proteus 2000 is expanded with the Protean Drums and World Expedition soundsets. Even though those are only 32MB for everything together, sound editors were quite skillful in these days when it came to squeeze the most out of a very limited amount of memory available, making use of the possibilities of the engine (e.g. complex envelopes, loops - hey, we even to this thread on-topic! ;)) > Anyway, that's what I mean with "dated", not saying that > every synth has to sound like the real deal which was clearly > THE trend in the 80's and 90's. Once the VA's and analog Then again, sometimes the cheap copy of a real instrument by a synth becomes a kind of "real deal" by itself. Examples are the DX7 electric piano (still very much in use e.g. in hiphop jazz) and the heavily compressed grand piano of the M1 (the standard piano sound for house). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 19 20:48:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DA4C3BEAE; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:subject :date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:x-mimeole; bh=IaZFrAnpTk1RbuE5zMedYQdsBDFbMqIKnfgQcQOnC8w=; b=RIaFpB1mySQs/dEMofaaZq45xqch8Dl84ymljOAS2KFa4OfEkgMU0rFBEgRFxEMPmg DyrLQxUuvWM/65CSK1FPydmpr83ft/1AWRZM7HWIyfLoffwkJyTQP7rL7QMfgnA0ecSV 2QQ43niYenViNUsmWtpo8JF/UukbZMgyX7xxM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:x-mimeole; b=WvGQb7IgpJhYxKZHETkWUQOsSkOyRYhis5hboyWP6WlpsPqH/JJzokDFNCxSIUz++A aAJNVvEvgRTUTwDuFD2/w3sy7U2atQRYhQKDj0OS3ZM9iyX/m4fCnR0artWptvuq11LZ SF+CSE/3PuyeMgKHxajuy+Zx8J1gRxprQrEFQ= Message-ID: <4b05af09.101abc0a.2459.261a@mx.google.com> From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: Taking VSTs out on the road Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:48:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcppVcC5/jOTHsVbS9alnwRKpl8BmQAAkQtAAABjLtA= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:48:12 +0000 (UTC) > ;-) The P1 offers powerful sound patch programming options but I > remember I kind of missed a good sounding LFO controlled resonance > filter. The first generation Proteus lacked that, yes. That was due to the fact that the earlier samplers by E-Mu (Emulator and Emax series) all had analogue filters (up to and including the flagship EIII), so in the first-generation Proteus (which was based on the EIII architecture), powerful filters were missing. (And yes, those analogue filters were the deal!) However, the ESi-32 (basically, a "consumer" version of the EIII) had an ASIC circuit for simulating analogue filters. These algorithms were later enhanced, called "Z-Plane filters" and found their way into the Proteus product line via the Morpheus and most of the followups (Ultra Proteus, Proteus 2000, Audigy and all of their spinoffs). Btw, if there's someone looking for an ESi-32 - I believe I still have a fully expanded one in my basement, together with a SCSI enclosure (HDD+CD-ROM) and some E-Mu libraries on CD-ROM... 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The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk one from "Analog Overdose 2" on Manikin Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#nov On tonight's show, you will hear new music from Redshift, Free System Projekt with Brendan Pollard and Hashtronaut, and Create. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://is.gd/37vNQ on the internet. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 19 22:07:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF3283BEBA; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1258668471; bh=bJsj0kbzJjKqwDKegs8V/fol4KG0iElZWdvVLxuNwJc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=58RtRpOO+C7KMJ65eWC5r7DmK/vZruKAHoahkCPI3js4SRCSx/8mH82FnlcMkRvILXD3SEHtZSUELI73at2E+YrUInebt7oJh6Dg5uSGm3n+EHlG4wBBiCC+oXexqQ+6TwK/3ESG+osoBDrOC5wYuCsGAxZl+0e4RRls9xHy5po= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Fgn7FWK3pT8TXpPWGvvFYcP7awThtH2j9YdpYI0uGKye9RqPsJSJwPTCGt0KT/QuykH7adrSfdCsSADl9fL2TynOAhZyVkNypUZfeZyJYpCZr+Fbf6Swu57ikpQunlpLBEdpOpwfZcNTC/ENZ9Ll4th1Ki92ko/0cpRnprZrhKU=; Message-ID: <905307.56364.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Sz_FK5IVM1m72cS74xQFoi_epwXHOeM8gb9vrd2YG.oroBVj37dX1wAkpkLvlcy2Y02FQYVXBu2sQvWwLjFWb_hMRLW7qe8h3yUypvOt3l1.0Gkc3dGcwpBAwNEzMjrA3EEv4u2RBbFxmQ1.ikla7p8G2CHvAXTGB.LoiKfgK5awDjswgvKvtWoM1UhSob.NVgT4P287OFJcAOTYgV.lRU1iYWiL_twhkJVNNMQcwcodmkxp3fx_NhSLGCU2fLTTYCXBIxetCyj4ZAL39WDrlgY2UWqluNB9.4amDp38rPf37FK5J5RC8Lnv1Ht7ukeV.2YLN6VttFDm.vRlEnnMmwmDcAZLH1DepJ8HnIpT5bQAuaUtO4RTWtjJjNTkQgZwPg_CkXW3SRwljEM97hmdWM3.wMtAkMWa_ghfklLSh5tcnqvP4IWs7uACtYDfr6n2hKauAmvJ7gqg7SJF8O8- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:07:51 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Uccello Subject: Uccello's Loop Laden House Concert, Seaside, CA USA Dec 12th To: LOOPER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-442168333-1258668471=:56364" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:07:52 +0000 (UTC) --0-442168333-1258668471=:56364 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello there, Steve Uccello here again just sending out a reminder about a l= ooping laden house concert that I'm doing soon... -Uccello Project, live full length show -Time: Saturday, December 12th, 2009 =A0- 7:30 pm -Place: House Concert In Seaside, CA (USA) -contact: email stevebassbird@yahoo.com=A0 -or call 831-801-4920 for details=09=A0-details: Price: $12 (includes show/= drinks/snacks!)=A0 Background: =A0I just performed at the Y2K9 International Live Looping Fest= ival, and I have also shared the stage with loopers such=0A as Joe Craven a= nd Steve Lawson. This will be the first full length show by Uccello Project= and will feature me on Upright/Dobro Basses, and Acoustic Guitar. -There w= ill also be a few special guests sitting in! Also, I invite you to visit my blog and hear my new record, Symmetria, in i= t's entirety, Free: http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/=A0 ...here's a couple blurbs about it: Symmetria=0Aby the Uccello Project is a gorgeous, instrumental and largely= =0Aunclassifiable record. Best thought of as 'cinematic', each of the=0Atra= cks conjures up a range of emotions and images, taking the listener=0Aon a = beautiful journey. The layers of basses, guitars and percussion=0Aebb and f= low, drawing on jazz, folk, blues and African music, blending=0Aall the ele= ments into one lovely album. Recommended.Steve Lawson (Aug 18, 2009) I=0Ajust received the first Uccello Project CD, 'Symmetria' in the mail=0At= oday. =A0I was really taken by the track 'Chiral' and by the records=0Aintr= iguing blend=A0of acoustic and electric guitars and bass guitars,=0Aguitarr= on, mandolin, gongs, hand drums,=A0drumset, harp and flutes all=0Aplayed by= talented multi-instrumentalist, live looper,=A0Steve Uccello.=0AThe record= has beautiful ambient passages, composed tunes=A0and even=0Aveers into exp= erimnental and almost dark ambient territory. =A0A=0Avery=A0impressive firs= t effort. =A0I look forward to hearing what this=0Atalented musician=A0has = to play at =A0the Y2K9 looping festival for the=0Afirst time this year.Rick= Walker, composer/lo fi, toy video artist/found sound/live looper, Founder:= Y2K International Live Looping Festivals (Aug 28, 2009) Thanks for your time- =0A=0A=0A --0-442168333-1258668471=:56364 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello there, Steve Uccello here again ju= st sending out a reminder about a looping laden house concert that I'm doin= g soon...

-Uccello Project, live full length show

-Time: Saturday, December 12th, 2009  - 7:30 pm

<= /div>
-Place: House Concert In Seaside, CA (USA)

-contact: email stevebassbird@yahoo.com 

-= or call 831-801-4920 f= or details
=09 
-details: Price: $12 (includes show/drinks/= snacks!) 

Background:  I just performed = at the Y2K9 International Live Looping Festival, and I have also shared the= stage with loopers such=0A as Joe Craven and Steve= Lawson. This will be the first full length show by Uccello Project = and will feature me on Upright/Dobro Basses, and Acoustic Guitar. -There will also be a few special guests sitting = in!

Also, I invite you to visit my blog and hear m= y new record, Symmetria, in it's entirety, Free:

<= a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/">http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/=  

...here's a couple blurbs about it:

Sy= mmetria=0Aby the Uccello Project is a gorgeous, instrumental and largely=0A= unclassifiable record. Best thought of as 'cinematic', each of the=0Atracks= conjures up a range of emotions and images, taking the listener=0Aon a bea= utiful journey. The layers of basses, guitars and percussion=0Aebb and flow= , drawing on jazz, folk, blues and African music, blending=0Aall the elemen= ts into one lovely album. Recommended.

Stev= e Lawson (Aug 18, 2009)

I=0Ajust = received the first Uccello Project CD, 'Symmetria' in the mail=0Atoday. &nb= sp;I was really taken by the track 'Chiral' and by the records=0Aintriguing= blend of acoustic and electric guitars and bass guitars,=0Aguitarron, mandolin, gongs, hand drums, d= rumset, harp and flutes all=0Aplayed by talented multi-instrumentalist, liv= e looper, Steve Uccello.=0AThe record has beautiful ambient passages, = composed tunes and even=0Aveers into experimnental and almost dark amb= ient territory.  A=0Avery impressive first effort.  I look f= orward to hearing what this=0Atalented musician has to play at  t= he Y2K9 looping festival for the=0Afirst time this year.
Rick Walker, comp= oser/lo fi, toy video artist/found sound/live looper, Founder: Y2K Internat= ional Live Looping Festivals (Aug 28, 2009)
=


Thanks for your time-

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--0-1702671573-1258681742=:50689-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 20 02:21:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2E463BE86; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RHZleLyHnGqU6zYNIaYYZqhwtXHQcG++0REkViv2hM0=; b=Tfdu/ogTUNqwYjgE+e32nQ6qRkSuW/A1jz2MpjVnQNn3BPmYRJPGyrgdQqtVZMk3Ou siwKs5jDoHkW/u+2hDS28YujvqXy0H2b2n7ILregKpIqFmvhrI7JZOTylfOqSjG0O4Ra NvNEA8a/uG3X5HZtK85XkFYN4j8ShUPzWE8bU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RB1EcTqo3k7mFj8U7aheM+aBKzHMRDHOOtVhDqhhosPoX9TSo96BFeYzr3SNhj9uze 8IQmMZtxFPDTA9ynTXWY2BTXNAO4hVk2lJCVdRlqyxDriTzUSaVl2BQ0/UeySkNZI5PL nX7Jm/e30Q7I7IR9OPB5a24hqh5NRoMmk5stY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911180041h6fe746ddw853d6af196e7ca54@mail.gmail.com> References: <44e368750911172010y6a823002t11e42ccde8732915@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911180041h6fe746ddw853d6af196e7ca54@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:21:58 -0500 Message-ID: <44e368750911191821r34fd0814qe865d3a85738888e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: pci interface From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6c8b8f40f760478c4230e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:21:59 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6c8b8f40f760478c4230e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks guys...that's what i was looking for. rme is overkill in terms of both price and function. i need at most 4 i/o, so m-audio is probably the way to go...and i've owned their gear before and it seems to perform pretty well. per - you actually answered a question that i didn't ask but meant to: is it better to process midi outside of the sound card? you seem to suggest that it is "optimal" to have the sound card do sound only. am i understanding you correctly? thanks again. - jim --000e0cd6c8b8f40f760478c4230e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks guys...that's what i was looking for.

rme is overkill in = terms of both price and function.=A0 i need at most 4 i/o, so m-audio is pr= obably the way to go...and i've owned their gear before and it seems to= perform pretty well.

per - you actually answered a question that i didn't ask but meant = to: is it better to process midi outside of the sound card?=A0 you seem to = suggest that it is "optimal" to have the sound card do sound only= .=A0 am i understanding you correctly?

thanks again.

- jim
--000e0cd6c8b8f40f760478c4230e-- From adn12@mchsi.com Fri Nov 20 10:55:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 312 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:55:21 UTC Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053483BE7F for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:55:11 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; q=dns/txt; d=mchsi.com; s=dkim01; i=adn12@mchsi.com; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1258714511; h=Message-Id:Date:Subject:From; bh=9cQ6hnf13n5tPAU4HYu1SSeC9VwvY1N y6LzpOccb3mI=; b=fho2UnwdEbAm5X1W4+N0APkx3IcgvKgqn+TG0l16C1hF1+o6kJ KZzs36qTbYtdbr6qhnRVnJZNEkoYwOW6EfQw== Received: from sccqwbc17 (scommcenter17.asp.att.net[204.127.203.179]) by mchsi.com (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20091120104909m9100i7c8ee>; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:50:01 +0000 Received: from [212.138.113.4] by sccqwbc17; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:49:09 +0000 From: "Andrew Mensah" Reply-to: andmen3@yahoo.com.hk Subject: business proposal Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:49:09 +0000 Message-Id: <112020091049.26537.4B067420000A2430000067A9223245003003010CD2079C080C03BFCDCE020B0E@mchsi.com> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: YWRuMTJAbWNoc2kuY29t To: undisclosed-recipients:; -- My name is Andrew Mensah and I have a business proposal of about USD$17,540,000.00 for you. I will however accept your offer based on my conditions. Please reply to my private email below: andmen3@yahoo.com.hk Best Wishes Andrew Mensah From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 20 11:27:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBD403BE82; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JEmSP1/5tkoYsbl31Au1V5/f0PeATqDb+GMCNSt/0JQ=; b=JOgPtTudpkUp4fxscSujcrqQKTSTvFtrV0YvayxiTMMRGzet7SEW2ntxjWTaQC2d4n OKj+bLL54cNZOqtk5DwYW9seuDAsC5k+EZ2sct0fZY/Obw0TgRRShL5XTUD4g3+Bxp9n +rfAWVgV9UbabcC0hWGSbG/72evU3HA3GJ4yE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=C9Vy2gQ++hHixeLg+1EatQyNNjHsm/kIZZcFKQDM6H2Ljn/qS5aD9s+Cc1Eq/Ga395 QuHMGuadRGS9I5wS5kDz4NbjARWpmLn9VsZTSOLQig0lqYqU94BxjRDbljpr3QbjP9S2 5sdoFFnH8TKxjwkP0bLZimCkTEOGJIl0ev3ag= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <44e368750911191821r34fd0814qe865d3a85738888e@mail.gmail.com> References: <44e368750911172010y6a823002t11e42ccde8732915@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911180041h6fe746ddw853d6af196e7ca54@mail.gmail.com> <44e368750911191821r34fd0814qe865d3a85738888e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:27:11 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911200327w7a3895d7h32e9e7eaf18e86b5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: pci interface From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:27:18 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:21 AM, james fowler wrote: > per - you actually answered a question that i didn't ask but meant to: is= it > better to process midi outside of the sound card?=C2=A0 you seem to sugge= st that > it is "optimal" to have the sound card do sound only.=C2=A0 am i understa= nding > you correctly? Nothing is "optimal" or "better". All gear is different. One manufacturer may put out a software driver that makes audio buzz if MIDI #CC is streaming through the device, but next month a fully working driver is released. You never know until it hits you. Personally I am cautious with technology and appreciate keeping my rig as much as possible in a modular setup so one temporary flaw won't hurt functionality by other regards. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 20 12:18:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 952533BE82; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 306 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:18:56 UTC Subject: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. 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=0A=0A=0A Reading this email at work? Make a cha= nge with Yahoo!Xtra Jobs --0-736121931-1258729225=:67186-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 20 15:28:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C23353BE82; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c82af845-90b9-4c45-9668-9e8b1f30cbe5_" X-Originating-IP: [77.86.41.213] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: Taking VSTs out on the road Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:22:51 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20091119112723.35411uwer6jc5l28@www.wightman.ca> References: <7334ca1b0911190657j7e7e159do1cd25098d379090e@mail.gmail.com>,<20091119112723.35411uwer6jc5l28@www.wightman.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2009 15:22:51.0610 (UTC) FILETIME=[5321ABA0:01CA69F5] Resent-Message-ID: <7AYXCD.A.Q_H.2WrBLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:28:54 +0000 (UTC) --_c82af845-90b9-4c45-9668-9e8b1f30cbe5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wow =20 this is just getting more and more intreguing!! =20 =20 so whats would you be looking at now if you had a budget of =A3400 - $600 g= o ebaying for old stuff or look at something like the korg microsampler? =20 i cant get my head around the specs=2C i live in a world where my nintendo = DS has a 16 GB micro SD card in it =2C yet many of the samplers im looking = at quote 64mb UPGRADABLE TO 128mb...like i should be jaw agog!! =20 surely someone in the tech world is still making this kind of stuff?=20 =20 the irony is=2C i think i know the answer and its.....yup.on a laptop!!!! =20 oh dear =20 Phill =20 > Date: Thu=2C 19 Nov 2009 11:27:23 -0500 > From: phaslem@wightman.ca > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: Taking VSTs out on the road >=20 > just because it has come up=2C I have a Sonic Cell=2C barely used that I'= m=20 > looking to sell. It's up here in Canada=2C so there could be duties to=20 > pay to send it across the border. > No problems with it=2C I just couldn't use it with my guitar synth in=20 > the way I had hoped and went to using Reason instead. >=20 > Paul Haslem >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Quoting Rainer Straschill : >=20 > > Sjaak said: > >> I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO=2C they sounds a little d= ated > > "I have owned a Steinway Model D but IMO=2C it sounds a little dated...= " > > > > Some synths tend to sound dated after a while. Good ones don't. Of > > course=2C to keep the things from sounding dated may require you to > > actually invest the time and brains to get into programming some > > sounds yourself. E-mu's Proteus series modules (especially the later > > ones) offer great possibilities for that. > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/= --_c82af845-90b9-4c45-9668-9e8b1f30cbe5_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wow
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this is just getting more and more intreguing!!
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so whats would you be looking =3Bat =3Bnow if you had a budget of = =A3400 - $600 go ebaying for old =3Bstuff or look at something like the= korg microsampler?
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i cant get my head around the specs=2C i live in a world where my nintendo = DS has a 16 GB =3Bmicro SD card in it =2C yet many of the samplers im l= ooking at quote 64mb =3B UPGRADABLE TO 128mb...like i should be jaw ago= g!!
 =3B
surely someone =3Bin the tech world is still making this kind of stuff?=
 =3B
the irony is=2C i think i know the answer and its.....yup.on a laptop!!!!  =3B
oh dear
 =3B
Phill
 =3B
>=3B Date: Thu=2C 19 Nov 2009 11:27:23 -0500
>= =3B From: phaslem@wightman.ca
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
>=3B Subject: RE: Taking VSTs out on the road
>=3B
>= =3B just because it has come up=2C I have a Sonic Cell=2C barely used that = I'm
>=3B looking to sell. It's up here in Canada=2C so there could be= duties to
>=3B pay to send it across the border.
>=3B No proble= ms with it=2C I just couldn't use it with my guitar synth in
>=3B the= way I had hoped and went to using Reason instead.
>=3B
>=3B Pau= l Haslem
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>=3B
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B Quoting Rain= er Straschill <=3Bmoinsound@googlemail.com>=3B:
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>=3B &g= t=3B Sjaak said:
>=3B >=3B>=3B I have owned several Emu 19" module= s but IMO=2C they sounds a little dated
>=3B >=3B "I have owned a St= einway Model D but IMO=2C it sounds a little dated..."
>=3B >=3B
= >=3B >=3B Some synths tend to sound dated after a while. Good ones don'= t. Of
>=3B >=3B course=2C to keep the things from sounding dated may= require you to
>=3B >=3B actually invest the time and brains to get= into programming some
>=3B >=3B sounds yourself. E-mu's Proteus ser= ies modules (especially the later
>=3B >=3B ones) offer great possib= ilities for that.
>=3B >=3B
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Use Hotmail to send and receive mail f= rom your different email accounts. Find out how. = --_c82af845-90b9-4c45-9668-9e8b1f30cbe5_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 20 16:18:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9157F3BE86; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:18:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Bfa7i9kRZZko0Bhg9nyIGQ)" In-reply-to: References: <7334ca1b0911190657j7e7e159do1cd25098d379090e@mail.gmail.com> <20091119112723.35411uwer6jc5l28@www.wightman.ca> Message-id: <133F568C-74FC-4D43-BD30-65992BEE9783@mac.com> From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out on the road Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:18:19 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:18:19 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_Bfa7i9kRZZko0Bhg9nyIGQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable If your dead set against it, thats fine. But, you have know idea how =20 cool it can be. On Nov 20, 2009, at 10:22 AM, phillip wilson wrote: > wow > > this is just getting more and more intreguing!! > > > so whats would you be looking at now if you had a budget of =A3400 - =20= > $600 go ebaying for old stuff or look at something like the korg =20 > microsampler? > > i cant get my head around the specs, i live in a world where my =20 > nintendo DS has a 16 GB micro SD card in it , yet many of the =20 > samplers im looking at quote 64mb UPGRADABLE TO 128mb...like i =20 > should be jaw agog!! > > surely someone in the tech world is still making this kind of stuff? > > the irony is, i think i know the answer and its.....yup.on a =20 > laptop!!!! > > oh dear > > Phill > > > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:27:23 -0500 > > From: phaslem@wightman.ca > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: RE: Taking VSTs out on the road > > > > just because it has come up, I have a Sonic Cell, barely used =20 > that I'm > > looking to sell. It's up here in Canada, so there could be duties to > > pay to send it across the border. > > No problems with it, I just couldn't use it with my guitar synth in > > the way I had hoped and went to using Reason instead. > > > > Paul Haslem > > > > > > > > > > Quoting Rainer Straschill : > > > > > Sjaak said: > > >> I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO, they sounds a =20 > little dated > > > "I have owned a Steinway Model D but IMO, it sounds a little =20 > dated..." > > > > > > Some synths tend to sound dated after a while. Good ones don't. Of > > > course, to keep the things from sounding dated may require you to > > > actually invest the time and brains to get into programming some > > > sounds yourself. E-mu's Proteus series modules (especially the =20 > later > > > ones) offer great possibilities for that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email =20 > accounts. Find out how. --Boundary_(ID_Bfa7i9kRZZko0Bhg9nyIGQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable If your dead set against it, thats fine. But, you have know idea how = cool it can be.=A0
On Nov 20, 2009, at 10:22 AM, phillip = wilson wrote:

wow
=A0
this is just getting = more and more intreguing!!
=A0
=A0
so whats would you be = looking=A0at=A0now if you had a budget of =A3400 - $600 go ebaying for = old=A0stuff or look at something like the korg microsampler?
=A0
i = cant get my head around the specs, i live in a world where my nintendo = DS has a 16 GB=A0micro SD card in it , yet many of the samplers im = looking at quote 64mb=A0 UPGRADABLE TO 128mb...like i should be jaw = agog!!
=A0
surely someone=A0in the tech world is still making this = kind of stuff?=A0
=A0
t= he irony is, i think i know the answer and its.....yup.on a = laptop!!!!
=A0
oh dear
=A0
Phill
=A0
> Date: Thu, 19 = Nov 2009 11:27:23 -0500
> From: phaslem@wightman.ca
> To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
> Subject: RE: Taking VSTs out on the = road
>=A0
> just = because it has come up, I have a Sonic Cell, barely used that I'm=A0
> looking to sell. It's up = here in Canada, so there could be duties to=A0
> pay to send it across = the border.
> No problems with it, I just couldn't use it with my = guitar synth in=A0
> the = way I had hoped and went to using Reason instead.
>=A0
> Paul Haslem
>=A0
>=A0
>=A0
>=A0
> Quoting Rainer = Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>:>=A0
> > Sjaak = said:
> >> I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO, they sounds = a little dated
> > "I have owned a Steinway Model D but IMO, it = sounds a little dated..."
> >
> > Some synths tend to sound dated = after a while. Good ones don't. Of
> > course, to keep the things = from sounding dated may require you to
> > actually invest the time = and brains to get into programming some
> > sounds yourself. E-mu's = Proteus series modules (especially the later
> > ones) offer great = possibilities for that.
> >
> >
>=A0
>=A0
>=A0


Use Hotmail to = send and receive mail from your different email accounts.=A0Find out = how.

= --Boundary_(ID_Bfa7i9kRZZko0Bhg9nyIGQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 20 16:49:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 173923BE85; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:49:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:subject :date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:x-mimeole:in-reply-to; bh=MaK59HtvEECYgZAjdngNOyCvWBXy4eER6FQbsh1Ernw=; b=LBinF7ZQLhFe0Sm3pux9IMCv9eiNkGJpdfOYZpDRdbSNrxvO8PJ9zGpGJHyDDbnDzM wjcNPt67wmQGmYN8yEk7kzhvX3zixNnbFQ3Ny9vJI9sFhTlSytKXv4ZSQBM3HMTCR1O7 73OHho7h5mdRrD8tCU3UVxLF+UyIyUPDhDzg4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:x-mimeole :in-reply-to; b=W13LUbFoxXkhcNB87WT5sWJUhq48ExSrSqEPph0U4iCZqWKxAtu05j3FbUJY1UE0fD Cmp7qcxtcOvhnoXBQ044eQ8DskR2ZqxAF/OyIAev7unHXuTnqju52YtiFpz0U/YPjZDO /G+fLNtllTNLXhXPv11rw4b4xdhC4QgBHa7pE= Message-ID: <4b06c8a9.0e1abc0a.6500.3dd2@mx.google.com> From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Taking VSTs out on the road Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:49:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 thread-index: Acpp9i61i6SLl4OoSaKhghZ+7SwDIwAB+Uyw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:49:48 +0000 (UTC) > so whats would you be looking at now if you had a budget of =A3400 - = $600 go ebaying for old stuff or look at something like the korg microsampler? So that's a budget of $600-$660 ;)? I will now assume you meant to type $400-$600... =20 > i cant get my head around the specs, i live in a world where my = nintendo DS has a 16 GB micro SD card in it , yet many of the samplers im looking = at=20 > surely someone in the tech world is still making this kind of stuff?=20 Let's face it: the high-quality hardware sampler has (almost) vanished = from the market. People who had been using something like an Akai S series, = E-Mu Emulator or similar in a studio setting in the past use a computer = today. Example: NI Kontakt 4. People who used one onstage use a synth = workstation where you can load samples (those devices don't have a sampling option, because - yes, you guessed right - people use a computer for this). = Example: Roland Fantom XR. The only hardware samplers (being things that not only can playback but = also record samples) seem to be aimed at the more beat-oriented/DJ crowd - = apart frm things like a Roland SP-555, there' still the Akai MPC series. > the irony is, i think i know the answer and its.....yup.on a = laptop!!!! Here, you said it yourself... Ah, and if that weren't enough, storing and transferring data with those older devices is often a hassle. The standard for this used to be SCSI (which means SCSI harddisk and SCSI interface for your computer). Perhaps the simple solution really IS to use a sound module with sounds = you like, and go with that...;) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 20 17:11:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 192853BE8C; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:11:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B06CDCE.7050602@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:11:42 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #659 for November 19, 2009. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:11:57 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/091119.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #659 November 19, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Fanger and Schonwalder. The Featured CD at Midnight was disk one from Analog Overdose 2 on Manikin Records. Fanger and Schonwalder: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#nov PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Create SlaveTo the Groove Words Just Get In the Way (none) Free System Projekt, Exodus Time Out of Mind (Acoustic Brendan Pollard, Wave) and Hashtronaut Redshift Shift To Blue RE Three (Distant Sun) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Fanger & Schonwalder The Art of Analog Overdose 2 (Manikin) Sequencing Part 1 Fanger & Schonwalder Zwischenton Analog Overdose 2 (Manikin) Fanger & Schonwalder The Art of Analog Overdose 2 (Manikin) Sequencing Part 1 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Fanger and Schonwalder. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk two from Analog Overdose 2 on Manikin Records. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on-line. To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 20 17:13:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 295D63BE8C; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=AiLqCyRfQPiofmZ7a7R99orXPoU04uPwV1yEOdiDHHbQvYynEXEt6rpf8L5EQc23HlPVjQaY2P/z6ARtwAFyoR4Nr0hn8mg13benjnrAcv+k4zXqgkheZg6VAMkV+sFmnFcQ3PNJZVVJRoX3sD3/klqX+KyHiOOc1vJrcCcVknc= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- X-YMail-OSG: z24O4WwVM1muLdpTWbfSB_Hqk81Sq2PbIIm.Q3uZ_8DmUREjrVgwTRBORJm5PmYZ0gP3xmOh7w5va8JHd7mcNj4U8qhXLGcUuIgOzXaVEV6OwAAH2Ry57AOpT5P_zJhT6JvFYAs03QFhGVgU.ygFUa3GlNRW_ok1Om_fX.aAbqfMJPOi.0HKPVUyPlFYnfJn6T473nHxoqU5AXzLAVS3jeSvjC8M0LeW2sLMAeJAScRjorqTBDJR_oRLC1r_vKEVOCxYYyDzH58UAW0qpG.gUF.ey1zBbSSkHzaOIY0xGt.ONYZm._R1azSXmgo8eEZpk5zojlZXGhoVAq3jKItlcUvG0j0SmMm21BXaFzg7VGky39ZTTQRxA.jvz3DHS6Dn06kYTqqSnEPYhZ3eF0EcR5qot43sVNuIQbkEqdx400Pp042NKPiRVFYdG7G2PR2piRjIX_r3WwoZRiW0gCM- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <00da01ca6a04$98e7ec30$0b00a8c0@voo.intra> From: "Ruelle Benoit" To: References: <4b06c8a9.0e1abc0a.6500.3dd2@mx.google.com> Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out on the road Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:12:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:13:46 +0000 (UTC) If really sampled sounds is important then waldorf blofeld or clavia nordwave (+expensive) are solutions too. At least you still have some synthesis power when needed which might not be the case whith a sp555 for instance. The blofeld seems a bargain but I haven't tried it yet. Ben. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:49 PM Subject: AW: Taking VSTs out on the road > so whats would you be looking at now if you had a budget of £400 - $600 go ebaying for old stuff or look at something like the korg microsampler? So that's a budget of $600-$660 ;)? I will now assume you meant to type $400-$600... > i cant get my head around the specs, i live in a world where my nintendo DS has a 16 GB micro SD card in it , yet many of the samplers im looking at > surely someone in the tech world is still making this kind of stuff? Let's face it: the high-quality hardware sampler has (almost) vanished from the market. People who had been using something like an Akai S series, E-Mu Emulator or similar in a studio setting in the past use a computer today. Example: NI Kontakt 4. People who used one onstage use a synth workstation where you can load samples (those devices don't have a sampling option, because - yes, you guessed right - people use a computer for this). Example: Roland Fantom XR. The only hardware samplers (being things that not only can playback but also record samples) seem to be aimed at the more beat-oriented/DJ crowd - apart frm things like a Roland SP-555, there' still the Akai MPC series. > the irony is, i think i know the answer and its.....yup.on a laptop!!!! Here, you said it yourself... Ah, and if that weren't enough, storing and transferring data with those older devices is often a hassle. The standard for this used to be SCSI (which means SCSI harddisk and SCSI interface for your computer). Perhaps the simple solution really IS to use a sound module with sounds you like, and go with that...;) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 20 22:41:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4FF03BE89; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1258756897; bh=B8IwpTk6CEhwmKusyD3/JMwU3zYX1AKq6UCgh4xGBUw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=i1RzDuaOEVwbOEsVGG/RNrGGHNYSZAhDImP9sSfIGCy5+6sy6pTyZXAGImogXUeR0x0slr4In9gYe76UjIH7nT3tb5RSoFs9xPqlKU+qQiFwG22Ud80Igpg8s3mVDHr/E6r+XiiDIqjkpQ1aR2XMNQcj5DSZwJny2g8B/IdCJ7M= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gEW3gjJac/XtRB69v13BlvlNUv49JsuK1PfVcOXTFJhVwgPDP4LSjJzqPDVoHV3+z456EOMp9cA1xw+JU7dNkbFKbZZk9VNH9pNdWn8jTDYYnIu6+aAUKPTJ6aGl/4PbIj0Gfy0fjaXg8BghUw/OzVTFH2Wg8yEEpw7pcdDRBhQ=; Message-ID: <360443.68114.qm@web45315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Eq.SNOgVM1kqJsU4BsQJJLyqqqy4ibqHx9k7MRwtOUOEedl2TR6vFOQydVvLjAiyT1CaruR19h.7.5HbzwlWt9Ki4laimfuN8WmeUoKD6l43bu3.vOSOY1..W0dn4Nk68OhUR2HzMUg0qU7hC6CAzcr5SkBCODFvXzTep8GtqWhjMmPjWq6w4rxipQRu8E5NFv3xT9L7Bkaljs7mc206qViTn1VWpzXzh1tZw7DXzhyn1O_Zfon_Qj1d5eWqDoYWAtCLP0YR80AKmZc60vX7_Yd6bJTl3J2wfbCPAvGEcRP_nviwKZRBwSElsOCixDB9Gf0Otqes2EvY1Y2Yc5_xlySmlDRqKAl2t73ovdglSZwYVgU5gOApmHU- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:41:37 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Frisell interview To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4AFF6E39.1050105@asyouthink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:41:38 +0000 (UTC) 'The Strand' on the BBC aired an interview with Bill Frisell and Mike Gibbs yesterday which you can hear at (Click on "Strand Thursday") -t- From info@citi.com Sat Nov 21 00:09:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 9312 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:09:54 UTC Received: from egasmoniz.edu.pt (195-23-63-106.static.net.novis.pt [195.23.63.106]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 00D373BE82 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15217 invoked by uid 453); 20 Nov 2009 21:18:01 -0000 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on egasmoniz.edu.pt Received: from localhost (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by egasmoniz.edu.pt (qpsmtpd/0.40) with ESMTP; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:18:01 +0000 Received: from 213.255.218.244 ([213.255.218.244]) by www.egasmoniz.edu.pt (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:17:56 +0000 Message-ID: <20091120211756.43734tnrwfummpa8@www.egasmoniz.edu.pt> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:17:56 +0000 From: CITI GROUP INTERNATIONAL AWARD Reply-to: citigroupnoticecentre@yahoo.com.hk To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.4) {Switzerland} the Head Quarters of the CITI GROUP INTERNATIONAL today after the raffle draw has given out Two million united states dollars to individuals active users of the internet.you where lucky to be one of the active users who emerged as a beneficiary.contact below email. 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Email: citigroupprocessingoffice@yahoo.com.hk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 21 01:53:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A32523BE89; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=aSRvjw2BAAAA:8 a=ryWgMQXP2TI0SnuCnQoA:9 a=b9Vvm01bpWX2tKYEq2-AK7cq0bcA:4 Message-Id: <34BACF0A-B5F9-451C-AB4A-41C0E7296E5B@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <360443.68114.qm@web45315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Frisell interview Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:52:58 -0800 References: <360443.68114.qm@web45315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <1MHyeC.A.Pl.Bg0BLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Listened to it at work today. Interesting project - one I'll wanna hear when it's done. Thanks for sharing the link. I might not have known about it otherwise. 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(Mr. Sadiq Alman) Chief Auditor To The President Federal Republic Of Nigeria Atm Card Payment For Fund Beneficiaries From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 21 09:18:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D14D3BE8E; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B07B058.8070904@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:18:16 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To The AM/FM Show Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1AG68D.A.b7.kB7BLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:18:28 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, November 7 at 6 am (EST/GMT-5/ITZ-5). I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase 1. I host the show every other week. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Today, you'll hear music by Arcane, IZZ, and much more. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 21 15:56:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABF4A3BE87; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:56:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B080DA8.9020001@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:56:24 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for November 21, 2009. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:56:44 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2009/091121.html The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #161 November 21, 2009. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Fanger & Schonwalder Frankfurt Breakfast Analog Overdose 4+ (Manikin) VA [Andy Pickford] untitled Sequences No. 7 VA [Wavestar] Wavestar Sequences No. 7 VA [Steve Charlton] untitled Sequences No. 7 VA [Sean Spence] untitled Sequences No. 7 Arcane Invisible City Tomorrow's Wasteland (none) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Terry Oldfield Footprint of Tears for Tibet (New Earth) Buddha's Children 9Muses Cool Water Feel To Heal (Blue Amazon) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Harmonia Watussi Musik von Harmonia (Brain) Engineers Clean Coloured Wire Three Fact Fader (Kscope) IZZ Swaloow Our Pride The Darkened Room (Doone) IZZ Day of Innocence The Darkened Room (Doone) IZZ Regret The Darkened Room (Doone) Sylvan Force of Gravity Force of Gravity (ProgRock) The Tangent The Company Car Down and Out in Paris and London (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST (GMT-5:00/ ITZ-5:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml ====================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 21 16:47:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E0593BE8E; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1258822072; bh=EahHEQCO6s2BWcj23zAHIIHOvgDz6kiXFGXh3gzPuQU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XJoASjhjNKe2h+/++oBqDacnuK4uXgsDXlv/Cfo2E753LhtRV9xE4NPHCMfBB+IhavANQdPmeGzVb7xZkG+mcD41TfjJwhItyqOgG/OZF8p6l7MGylylbxYjwKdhMxkmJpa+sCRtttX+RX9GBJ2WJ8EflEXYDNeks7TGINIbQB4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4vSv0Y96QxrS7GG1Bp9v6Hy1Tnj5Q+BxlOPH/efLqS6ZtjH1DZ3O/JRTFy2mV7Aecktojj/LhuLJWGODx0/SNkar6mPm/whl2yglPHYULNyOCx2abU5O7SFUWcmAGm7+cgrqBq8l0E+ZW9jjgOywSyUvRtZy12joDh0yNyTx/so=; Message-ID: <662396.13497.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: lnSaGBQVM1lTlNC2xP4N7.tfhFsYKglxbbru2PNOTNQL5LHHBxjn9fndm0VMqUvwPq5WXSUVijvf9qWF2A9hlc7VQeCLjLRJ7wFInkOLHU.yh2LFjnsj6K7YGMGbWKfmY5XDwu6TKL1nulgTQel4j.GfZqM0g9LeJmfJwpvA6s9PWGTrtOEoJBDozaRLSBLgC1lawcTCWJXfq5Eilijq2FYxiPrC5emrQTbKsWYQL9tC5gT1VUOxZcdCKnzo45rNLL7.U_c0hPtjgFmxqhflAQh94D7vgHxdE8kM8q7KKwum2E29IORp0XSoLYSQI6kTlknR_cLbJEJAQttlO0vHHk8Sh73WrTJ34Bvz1CHk.2lPXOZsbGG7nxH13hiE1wbFa9VTeTGdYLIRRP8lOPiQkgR.AFdTKn2HuKiCDCVvF51vUm9nJ5tksmymHP2urt7G7Kli8.1xtEpYS0R.IBT7cH4INjmjVRWRDAR7L4NicVrQXYC2rOymDHTOihHugRhpzNtwG3tFykNxsAeYmwVNsxF4JW5Nw1PpTRx5PnGPti7LNln55PkBGdRJt2Y6I2WW X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:47:52 -0800 (PST) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: Frisell interview To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <360443.68114.qm@web45315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-644126535-1258822072=:13497" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:47:53 +0000 (UTC) --0-644126535-1258822072=:13497 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very neat stuff. Anybody know a way to download the interview? ted. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Tim Nelson wrote: From: Tim Nelson Subject: Frisell interview To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:41 PM 'The Strand' on the BBC aired an interview with Bill Frisell and Mike Gibbs= yesterday which you can hear at = (Click on "Strand Thursday") -t- =A0 =A0 =A0=20 =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0AYahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookma= rk your favourite sites. Download it now=0Ahttp://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. --0-644126535-1258822072=:13497 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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ted.
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Anyone has experiences with their service? 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=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-253852490-1258823673=:89083-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 21 17:28:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F8853BE85; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:28:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 291069275/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.220.192/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.220.192 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjECAGayB0tPTtzA/2dsb2JhbAAImSC6NoQ8BIFwhw8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="291069275" Message-ID: <4B082371.2050502@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:29:21 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: Frisell interview References: <4b081d0f.0e1abc0a.6988.4bf4@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <4b081d0f.0e1abc0a.6988.4bf4@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:28:38 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: >> 'The Strand' on the BBC aired an interview with Bill Frisell and Mike > Gibbs yesterday >> which you can hear at http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/arts/ > > "...today, American country guitarist Bill Frisell..." ;) > > Did I get this right that BBC will make the concert recording available > online? Collage for a day by Bill Frisell and Mike Gibbs can be heard in 'Afternoon on 3' on BBC Radio 3 on Tuesday 24 November, 1400 GMT and streamed online via BBC iPlayer at bbc.co.uk/radio3 and available to listen again for seven days. >Anyone has experiences with their service? huh....it's the BBC andy > > Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 21 17:33:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAB013BEA6; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=aSRvjw2BAAAA:8 a=UXRO_ufzX0Q6Gf6L3pQA:9 a=hwxM5553PrXrIy7OLe32QH1RfkAA:4 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <474656.89083.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Frisell interview Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:33:42 -0800 References: <474656.89083.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Or WireTap Pro (on the Mac). On Nov 21, 2009, at 9:14 AM, Tim Nelson wrote: > You could record the stream into a recording app like Soundforge or > Audacity. > > -t- > > --- On Sat, 11/21/09, ditch wrestler wrote: > > > Anybody know a way to download the interview? > > > --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Tim Nelson wrote: > > 'The Strand' on the BBC aired an interview with Bill Frisell and > Mike Gibbs yesterday which you can hear at > (Click on "Strand Thursday") > > -t- > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar : Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark > your favourite sites. Download it now! > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 21 18:43:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91C333BEA2; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 293956154/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.220.192/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.220.192 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As4CAL7DB0tPTtzA/2dsb2JhbAAIkBKJDoEfuTOEPAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,264,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="293956154" Message-ID: <4B0834EF.6080704@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:43:59 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Frisell interview References: <662396.13497.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <662396.13497.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_P-mYB.A.OED.ATDCLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:43:12 +0000 (UTC) all lot of bbc stuff is available as "Podcast". Likely the interview is available, I dunnow I didn't want to install i-Tunes just to download mp3s so that part of their service is something of a mystery. Right now the bbc site is offline, presumably because millions of Brits are trying to watch Dr Who on bbc iPlayer. ...but that should clear when they all "go down the pub" in an hour or so. Or "record streaming audio" could be googled to find software to record the stream to file as it comes in (though I guess those don't send compressed audio direct to disk). I've always used my soundcard routing if I wanted to record streams, although to record from bbc I prefer the higher quality of the FM radio broadcast. andy butler ditch wrestler wrote: > > Very neat stuff. > > Anybody know a way to download the interview? > > > ted. > Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog > > --- On *Fri, 11/20/09, Tim Nelson //* wrote: > > > From: Tim Nelson > Subject: Frisell interview > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Received: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:41 PM > > 'The Strand' on the BBC aired an interview with Bill Frisell and > Mike Gibbs yesterday which you can hear at > (Click on "Strand Thursday") > > -t- > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *Yahoo! Canada Toolbar :* Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark > your favourite sites. Download it now! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 21 22:15:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1C303BEA0; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3caa32b5-bd85-48c9-83ac-5c62e2ce93f9_" X-Originating-IP: [67.52.82.50] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: A note about internet cafes Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:15:16 -0600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <474656.89083.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2009 22:15:16.0410 (UTC) FILETIME=[1A9841A0:01CA6AF8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:15:57 +0000 (UTC) --_3caa32b5-bd85-48c9-83ac-5c62e2ce93f9_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable im sure this is common sense when it comes to banks account and email- =20 but when visiting internet cafes....be sure to log out of your youtube acco= unts as well........otherwise some pitiful soul will delete your videos jus= t for fun =20 =3Bo) =20 live and learn.....and share what you learn =20 fro =20 _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps=2C menus=2C and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=3Drestaurants&form=3DMFESRP&publ=3DWLHMTAG&cre= a=3DTEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1= --_3caa32b5-bd85-48c9-83ac-5c62e2ce93f9_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
im sure this is common sense when it comes to banks account and email-<= BR>  =3B
but when visiting internet cafes....be sure to log out of your youtube acco= unts as well........otherwise some pitiful soul will delete your videos jus= t for fun
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live and learn.....and share what you learn
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fro






Bing brings you maps=2C menu= s=2C and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. = --_3caa32b5-bd85-48c9-83ac-5c62e2ce93f9_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 22 00:39:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F09BF3BEA4; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:39:06 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c7d132ea-23e2-4207-bdde-d8ad3d794186_" X-Originating-IP: [24.21.222.254] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:34:05 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: ,<8CC30262757CB98-88E0-A6EA@webmail-d034.sysops.aol.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2009 00:34:05.0809 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F4DAE10:01CA6B0B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:39:06 +0000 (UTC) --_c7d132ea-23e2-4207-bdde-d8ad3d794186_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great vids=2C Fro! --Especially liked "How you Waste it" J.D.Devros deafrose58 From: parispro00@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 22:02:30 -0600 no problemo my friend =3Bo) thankyou for watching them and thankyou for taking time to send some love m= y way- even though i wish i could be self sufficient and give myself all the motiv= ation i needed to survive as an artist=2C hearing back from complete strang= ers is what helps me keep going =3Bo) =20 and thus you are no longer a stranger=2C but a valued friend- =20 cheers! fro =20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure- Date: Tue=2C 10 Nov 2009 09:06:37 -0500 From: nemoguitt@aol.com "The Sermon" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw "How you waste it" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA what a fantastic way to wake up!.....thanks and good luck fro!.....m = =20 Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. = =20 _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps=2C menus=2C and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=3Drestaurants&form=3DMFESRP&publ=3DWLHMTAG&cre= a=3DTEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1= --_c7d132ea-23e2-4207-bdde-d8ad3d794186_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great vids=2C Fro! --Especially liked "How you Waste it"
J.D.Devros
d= eafrose58


From: parispro00@hotmail.com
To= : loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: FRO videos for your v= iewing pleasure-
Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 22:02:30 -0600


no problemo my friend =3Bo)
thankyou for watching them and =3Bthankyou for taking time to send some= love my way-
even though i wish i could be self sufficient and give myself all the motiv= ation i needed to survive as an artist=2C hearing back from complete strang= ers is what helps me keep going =3Bo)
 =3B
and thus you are no longer a stranger=2C but a valued friend-
 =3B
cheers!
fro




 =3B

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: FRO videos for your= viewing pleasure-
Date: Tue=2C 10 Nov 2009 09:06:37 -0500
From: nemo= guitt@aol.com


"= The Sermon"
htt= p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw

"How you waste it"
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------_=_NextPart_001_01CA6B29.782002AD-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 22 06:03:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74C543BE8B; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:03:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=GpzeEQFsbFIOPoft0xX726tTAp5C27+P4jDp1wRC1xg=; b=NTzw3OmvxLDZS/1ijBD3rvQngLcUEFekfAkmxxvEp9GJUf4t/qfMKCVwxzXABwCyBU /zEMes9hDxoX50qCM/w8sWogFarPswJBgCJJy6lE1BNQ2jFBcPMmJ9eRQvh7m5wenr/k 5U6xdC6bzMkg5UgvaFtBhuYTLBRlgRo3rCgEs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Rjd695MrRWmVCoxbZbpHnwAR98HfkViD/aQGkk9YJAjqmr69kFAN15rrCbCrud9R+E 4qp9F03W3rV311/AkBFrdJGIXdKvPTKbwOvg8G/dLWGPjymWYrPI3ZbnPX3CE9KJiMYL Bb4bIez0mhFWEajj8oG75Jx+npFEkhgMnD/Ew= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:02:58 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60911212202q431e66c1u23d3a4865a9d65ba@mail.gmail.com> Subject: VirtualGigSpam: VSV ensemble returns to ustream From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174785f2f9a2b50478ef7529 Resent-Message-ID: <_vmVHD.A.CeF.UQNCLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:03:00 +0000 (UTC) --0015174785f2f9a2b50478ef7529 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm pleased to announce that the ensemble I premiered at the first annual Virtual Sound & Vision festival during early October is returning to the virtual stage later this morning at 11am EST/1500 UTC on uStream. I'm speaking of the trio of *Jim Goodin/Peter Thorn/Ray Istorico *featuring a collective improvisational gathering of oud, violin, guitar, saxophone, nyckelharpa and electronic drums. Technology permitting we'll be coming at you over my uStream channel Sunday Morning at 11 . I say technology permitting as we're fusing NinJam and uStream. Peter is coming from rural Sweden, Ray here in the States in Florida and I'm in New York. I tried this setup for the first time during the October festival and though not perfect re the feed it was more than not and I think I have since worked out all the glitches to combine all of our elements in stable form. In that the foundation of this gathering is NinJam audio only our ustream picture content will consist of video from our own *Emile Tobenfeld* and some other still images not yet decided on. At some point I hope to have all of us on camera but that's still in the planning stages so for the time being think of it as strange television or a short film. So please join us this morning (Nov 22) at 11am EST/1500 UTC at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11. For times in your locale see http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/. Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0015174785f2f9a2b50478ef7529 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm pleased to announce that the ensemble I premiered at the first annu= al Virtual Sound & Visio= n festival during early October is returning to the virtual stage later= this morning at 11am EST/1500 UTC on uStream.=A0 I'm speaking of the t= rio of Jim Goodin/Peter Thorn/Ray Istorico featuring a collective im= provisational gathering of oud, violin, guitar, saxophone, nyckelharpa and = electronic drums.=A0 Technology permitting we'll be coming at you over = my uStream channel Sunday Morning at 11.

I say technology permitting as we're fusing NinJam and uStream.=A0 = Peter is coming from rural Sweden, Ray here in the States in Florida and I&= #39;m in New York.=A0 I tried this setup for the first time during the Octo= ber festival and though not perfect re the feed it was more than not and I = think I have since worked out all the glitches to combine all of our elemen= ts in stable form.

In that the foundation of this gathering is NinJam audio only our ustre= am picture content will consist of video from our own Emile Tobenfeld and some other still images not yet decided on.=A0 At some point I hope t= o have all of us on camera but that's still in the planning stages so f= or the time being think of it as strange television or a short film.

So please join us this morning (Nov 22) at 11am EST/1500 UTC at http://www.ustream.= tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11.=A0 For times in your locale see http://www.timeanddate.com/wor= ldclock/.

Jim

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music links...
www.jimgo= odinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

--0015174785f2f9a2b50478ef7529-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 22 10:50:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC0C03BE84; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:50:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_rGV0DD2PXF+r7ua1UzA5Eg)" From: James Richmond Subject: Re: Frisell interview Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:50:32 +0000 In-reply-to: <662396.13497.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <662396.13497.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-id: <4F24AF56-50C1-4759-8594-7AE7A218AB7B@me.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:50:35 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_rGV0DD2PXF+r7ua1UzA5Eg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I was at that gig. Frisell was incredible. Jim On 21 Nov 2009, at 16:47, ditch wrestler wrote: > > Very neat stuff. > > Anybody know a way to download the interview? > > > ted. > Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog > > --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Tim Nelson wrote: > > From: Tim Nelson > Subject: Frisell interview > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Received: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:41 PM > > 'The Strand' on the BBC aired an interview with Bill Frisell and > Mike Gibbs yesterday which you can hear at > (Click on "Strand Thursday") > > -t- > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar : Search from anywhere on the web and > bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now! > --Boundary_(ID_rGV0DD2PXF+r7ua1UzA5Eg) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I was = at that gig.

Frisell was = incredible.

Jim

= --Apple-Mail-1--450304969-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 19:28:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 630093BEA4; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:28:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7d6a24d9-3b8d-4049-a9e8-27b5a37d3353_" X-Originating-IP: [62.7.181.6] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: OT: Blackbird guitars Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:28:22 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4B0D7240.7040406@mhorse.com> References: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com>,<4B0D7240.7040406@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2009 19:28:22.0598 (UTC) FILETIME=[738CCE60:01CA6E05] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:28:23 +0000 (UTC) --_7d6a24d9-3b8d-4049-a9e8-27b5a37d3353_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is that guitar being played? It doesn't look like to me.=20 And what a tone - yuk! peace G > Date: Wed=2C 25 Nov 2009 10:06:56 -0800 > From: highhorse@mhorse.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT: Blackbird guitars >=20 > Since we've discussed portability a lot on the list=2C as well as the=20 > unrelated topic of guitar pickups that split the signal per string=2C I=20 > thought I'd mention my experience auditioning a Blackbird guitar=20 > yesterday. Blackbirds are small-bodied (but full-scale) carbon-fiber=20 > acoustic guitars=2C made by hand in San Francisco. I became aware of them= =20 > just a few weeks ago through this video shot by Henry Kaiser of his=20 > Blackbird being played underwater in Antarctica (!). >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiCPiPh2sWDk >=20 > Carbon fiber is incredibly stiff stuff=2C and survived this experience=20 > unscathed. (Yesterday=2C the maker was giving it direct full-force kicks= =20 > to the body to show how tough it is=2C which almost made me lose my lunch= =2C=20 > but it didn't show a mark). It's also incredibly light - the=20 > nylon-string I played weighs only three pounds. As a guitar=2C it's=20 > surprisingly loud=2C and though the body is about six inches shorter and= =20 > four inches narrower than a regular guitar=2C it has a great bass=20 > response=2C as well as a really unique and clear high end. It's a very=20 > modern sound=2C which wouldn't be mistaken for a concert classical=2C but= I=20 > kinda fell in love with it. Complex chords are really detailed=2C and the= =20 > whole body vibrates=2C even the neck (which is hollow - there's a tiny=20 > soundhole where you'd expect a truss rod to be). I've tried out most of=20 > the travel guitar options=2C and this definitely is the one offering the= =20 > best tone=2C and durability=2C plus a really cool look. >=20 > They offer the RMC pickup system with it=2C which has an individual=20 > saddle-mounted pickup for each string. That can be broken out=20 > separately=2C and used either in its analog form=2C or to drive MIDI.=20 > Especially given its nice acoustic clarity=2C I think it would work=20 > extremely well for individual string processing=2C like dropping the bass= =20 > strings down an octave. >=20 > The guitar ain't cheap - with the RMC=2C about $2000 US - but if I'm luck= y=20 > I may figure out a way to acquire one for my travels. >=20 > http://www.blackbirdguitar.com >=20 > gear on=2C >=20 > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/= --_7d6a24d9-3b8d-4049-a9e8-27b5a37d3353_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is that guitar being played? It doesn't look like to me.
And what a ton= e - yuk!

peace

G

>=3B Date: Wed=2C 25 Nov 2009 10:06= :56 -0800
>=3B From: highhorse@mhorse.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Deligh= t@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: OT: Blackbird guitars
>=3B >=3B Since we've discussed portability a lot on the list=2C as well as = the
>=3B unrelated topic of guitar pickups that split the signal per = string=2C I
>=3B thought I'd mention my experience auditioning a Blac= kbird guitar
>=3B yesterday. Blackbirds are small-bodied (but full-sc= ale) carbon-fiber
>=3B acoustic guitars=2C made by hand in San Franci= sco. I became aware of them
>=3B just a few weeks ago through this vi= deo shot by Henry Kaiser of his
>=3B Blackbird being played underwate= r in Antarctica (!).
>=3B
>=3B http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D= iCPiPh2sWDk
>=3B
>=3B Carbon fiber is incredibly stiff stuff=2C = and survived this experience
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>=3B to the body to show how to= ugh it is=2C which almost made me lose my lunch=2C
>=3B but it didn't= show a mark). It's also incredibly light - the
>=3B nylon-string I p= layed weighs only three pounds. As a guitar=2C it's
>=3B surprisingly= loud=2C and though the body is about six inches shorter and
>=3B fou= r inches narrower than a regular guitar=2C it has a great bass
>=3B r= esponse=2C as well as a really unique and clear high end. It's a very
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>=3B whole body vibrates=2C even the neck (which is = hollow - there's a tiny
>=3B soundhole where you'd expect a truss rod= to be). I've tried out most of
>=3B the travel guitar options=2C and= this definitely is the one offering the
>=3B best tone=2C and durabi= lity=2C plus a really cool look.
>=3B
>=3B They offer the RMC pi= ckup system with it=2C which has an individual
>=3B saddle-mounted pi= ckup for each string. That can be broken out
>=3B separately=2C and u= sed either in its analog form=2C or to drive MIDI.
>=3B Especially gi= ven its nice acoustic clarity=2C I think it would work
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>=3B
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>=3B
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View your = other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. = --_7d6a24d9-3b8d-4049-a9e8-27b5a37d3353_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 19:33:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B2243BECC; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:33:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=TBbRHWtIaeRHqjI+fjB39gc3N6RkOTkEM7S+uMrs26A=; b=pNr0BK27idQbIr1oGb1HEnJbzLEPUrZdD1vejBIs7mhlSE7huu1IJaDTAyr/XoOkRt x0U5fIkFjiy979Dgrs7kN7TI4werUR4fM5FKWPCrmdnJFrSCai0muoioZ1PU+zhLFaqr UHk6EB+yZXnSI2cZ7HLiaqhissSQeWP0l9pBE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=M823Y0xMni0TOzl/76tyKLH+XskD5lsVSBXVE+O/sxNpM7VL435QE0Z6Ce+DKQzJW7 2CRUBi8Efvm63/RTgxB34/PbPMnkXZjVSOf0vYCd0gMBtRKd0cg+KAPT4FBYvLEawSoR 8GSRD85C94IY3AZEMDySscQSyprqoXXbjatI8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: darylshawn@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <0016e64cd7eabc246904793706c7@google.com> References: <4B0D7240.7040406@mhorse.com> <0016e64cd7eabc246904793706c7@google.com> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:33:27 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e39e6fd6206bd95a Message-ID: <1f0784c0911251133n382419d5g6a8b564c7545e975@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Blackbird guitars From: Daryl Shawn To: tedrkillian@gmail.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636284b5cfd9471047937215e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:33:28 +0000 (UTC) --001636284b5cfd9471047937215e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 For sitting down, there's a separate legrest, a stiff triangle made of leather attached with suction cups, which worked very well for me. It's a very balanced instrument, which helps a lot, and with being so light I found it to be quite comfortable. I tried it standing up with a strap button, too, and found that to work well, though the round back feels a little funny (like the Ovations). Oh, and no, the video is very misleading, it's not the sound of this actual guitar - in the notes Kaiser mentions that his mic wasn't working, so they overlaid audio. It's not Kaiser playing, either (which is probably obvious!). Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic Thanks for sharing that Daryl. > > I'd have to REALLY be in love with the sound (or something) to buy a guitar > at that price . . . and general lack of ergonomics. > > How does it feel playing it when seated? > > Ted --001636284b5cfd9471047937215e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For sitting down, there's a separate legrest, a stiff triangle made of = leather attached with suction cups, which worked very well for me. It's= a very balanced instrument, which helps a lot, and with being so light I f= ound it to be quite comfortable. I tried it standing up with a strap button= , too, and found that to work well, though the round back feels a little fu= nny (like the Ovations).

Oh, and no, the video is very misleading, it's not the sound of thi= s actual guitar - in the notes Kaiser mentions that his mic wasn't work= ing, so they overlaid audio. It's not Kaiser playing, either (which is = probably obvious!).

Daryl Shawn
= www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic


Thanks for sharing that Daryl.

I'd have to REALLY be in love wit= h the sound (or something) to buy a guitar at that price . . . and general = lack of ergonomics.

How does it feel playing it when seated?

Ted

--001636284b5cfd9471047937215e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 19:59:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01DD83BEDC; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 293421583/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.244.51/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.244.51 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AikBAMsbDUtPTvQz/2dsb2JhbAAImS6uGI41hDIE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,288,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="293421583" Message-ID: <4B0D8CBC.7040406@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:59:56 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Blackbird guitars References: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com>,<4B0D7240.7040406@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:59:57 +0000 (UTC) the text that goes with the vid explains all. The guitar was played (not by Henry), but the recording didn't come out. ...and I agree, what an awful soundtrack, dunnow if it's full of subtle satire...but not for me. I was really disappointed, however there's plenty of Kaiser's underwater footage on the DVD for Herzog's "Encounters at the end of the World" which is quite stunning...and some sublime music to go with it. ...forget YouTube...get the dvd andy butler Gareth Whittock wrote: > Is that guitar being played? It doesn't look like to me. > And what a tone - yuk! > > peace > > G > > > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:06:56 -0800 > > From: highhorse@mhorse.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: OT: Blackbird guitars > > > > Since we've discussed portability a lot on the list, as well as the > > unrelated topic of guitar pickups that split the signal per string, I > > thought I'd mention my experience auditioning a Blackbird guitar > > yesterday. Blackbirds are small-bodied (but full-scale) carbon-fiber > > acoustic guitars, made by hand in San Francisco. I became aware of them > > just a few weeks ago through this video shot by Henry Kaiser of his > > Blackbird being played underwater in Antarctica (!). > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCPiPh2sWDk > > > > Carbon fiber is incredibly stiff stuff, and survived this experience > > unscathed. (Yesterday, the maker was giving it direct full-force kicks > > to the body to show how tough it is, which almost made me lose my lunch, > > but it didn't show a mark). It's also incredibly light - the > > nylon-string I played weighs only three pounds. As a guitar, it's > > surprisingly loud, and though the body is about six inches shorter and > > four inches narrower than a regular guitar, it has a great bass > > response, as well as a really unique and clear high end. It's a very > > modern sound, which wouldn't be mistaken for a concert classical, but I > > kinda fell in love with it. Complex chords are really detailed, and the > > whole body vibrates, even the neck (which is hollow - there's a tiny > > soundhole where you'd expect a truss rod to be). I've tried out most of > > the travel guitar options, and this definitely is the one offering the > > best tone, and durability, plus a really cool look. > > > > They offer the RMC pickup system with it, which has an individual > > saddle-mounted pickup for each string. That can be broken out > > separately, and used either in its analog form, or to drive MIDI. > > Especially given its nice acoustic clarity, I think it would work > > extremely well for individual string processing, like dropping the bass > > strings down an octave. > > > > The guitar ain't cheap - with the RMC, about $2000 US - but if I'm lucky > > I may figure out a way to acquire one for my travels. > > > > http://www.blackbirdguitar.com > > > > gear on, > > > > Daryl Shawn > > www.swanwelder.com > > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 20:16:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B88223BE92; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:16:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f0ab682b-f007-48e5-9d3c-144bbd7098e2_" X-Originating-IP: [62.7.181.6] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: OT: Blackbird guitars Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:16:25 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2009 20:16:25.0616 (UTC) FILETIME=[29F67100:01CA6E0C] Resent-Message-ID: <6DzSo.A.SiD.aCZDLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:16:26 +0000 (UTC) --_f0ab682b-f007-48e5-9d3c-144bbd7098e2_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Andy=2C=20 Fancy going to all that trouble and not getting the sound right - tut tut = =3B-) I will check out "Encounters" on your recommendation. Peace G > Date: Wed=2C 25 Nov 2009 19:59:56 +0000 > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OT: Blackbird guitars >=20 > the text that goes with the vid explains all. > The guitar was played (not by Henry)=2C but the recording didn't come out= . >=20 > ...and I agree=2C what an awful soundtrack=2C dunnow if it's=20 > full of subtle satire...but not for me. >=20 > I was really disappointed=2C=20 > however there's plenty of Kaiser's underwater > footage on the DVD for Herzog's "Encounters at the end of the World" > which is quite stunning...and some sublime music to go with it. > ...forget YouTube...get the dvd >=20 > andy butler >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Gareth Whittock wrote: > > Is that guitar being played? It doesn't look like to me. > > And what a tone - yuk! > >=20 > > peace > >=20 > > G > >=20 > > > Date: Wed=2C 25 Nov 2009 10:06:56 -0800 > > > From: highhorse@mhorse.com > > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Subject: OT: Blackbird guitars > > > > > > Since we've discussed portability a lot on the list=2C as well as th= e > > > unrelated topic of guitar pickups that split the signal per string= =2C I > > > thought I'd mention my experience auditioning a Blackbird guitar > > > yesterday. Blackbirds are small-bodied (but full-scale) carbon-fiber > > > acoustic guitars=2C made by hand in San Francisco. I became aware of= them > > > just a few weeks ago through this video shot by Henry Kaiser of his > > > Blackbird being played underwater in Antarctica (!). > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiCPiPh2sWDk > > > > > > Carbon fiber is incredibly stiff stuff=2C and survived this experien= ce > > > unscathed. (Yesterday=2C the maker was giving it direct full-force k= icks > > > to the body to show how tough it is=2C which almost made me lose my = lunch=2C > > > but it didn't show a mark). It's also incredibly light - the > > > nylon-string I played weighs only three pounds. As a guitar=2C it's > > > surprisingly loud=2C and though the body is about six inches shorter= and > > > four inches narrower than a regular guitar=2C it has a great bass > > > response=2C as well as a really unique and clear high end. It's a ve= ry > > > modern sound=2C which wouldn't be mistaken for a concert classical= =2C but I > > > kinda fell in love with it. Complex chords are really detailed=2C an= d the > > > whole body vibrates=2C even the neck (which is hollow - there's a ti= ny > > > soundhole where you'd expect a truss rod to be). I've tried out most= of > > > the travel guitar options=2C and this definitely is the one offering= the > > > best tone=2C and durability=2C plus a really cool look. > > > > > > They offer the RMC pickup system with it=2C which has an individual > > > saddle-mounted pickup for each string. That can be broken out > > > separately=2C and used either in its analog form=2C or to drive MIDI= . > > > Especially given its nice acoustic clarity=2C I think it would work > > > extremely well for individual string processing=2C like dropping the= bass > > > strings down an octave. > > > > > > The guitar ain't cheap - with the RMC=2C about $2000 US - but if I'm= lucky > > > I may figure out a way to acquire one for my travels. > > > > > > http://www.blackbirdguitar.com > > > > > > gear on=2C > > > > > > Daryl Shawn > > > www.swanwelder.com > > > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now.=20 > > >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access bot= h http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/= --_f0ab682b-f007-48e5-9d3c-144bbd7098e2_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Andy=2C
Fancy going to all that trouble and not getting the soun= d right - tut tut =3B-)

I will check out "Encounters" on your recomm= endation.

Peace

G


>=3B Date: Wed=2C 2= 5 Nov 2009 19:59:56 +0000
>=3B From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk
>=3B = To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: OT: Blackbir= d guitars
>=3B
>=3B the text that goes with the vid explains all= .
>=3B The guitar was played (not by Henry)=2C but the recording didn'= t come out.
>=3B
>=3B ...and I agree=2C what an awful soundtrack= =2C dunnow if it's
>=3B full of subtle satire...but not for me.
&g= t=3B
>=3B I was really disappointed=2C
>=3B however there's ple= nty of Kaiser's underwater
>=3B footage on the DVD for Herzog's "Encou= nters at the end of the World"
>=3B which is quite stunning...and some= sublime music to go with it.
>=3B ...forget YouTube...get the dvd
= >=3B
>=3B andy butler
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B >=3B Gareth Whittock wrote:
>=3B >=3B Is that guitar being playe= d? It doesn't look like to me.
>=3B >=3B And what a tone - yuk!
&= gt=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B peace
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B G>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B Date: Wed=2C 25 Nov 2009 10:06:56= -0800
>=3B >=3B >=3B From: highhorse@mhorse.com
>=3B >=3B= >=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B >=3B >=3B S= ubject: OT: Blackbird guitars
>=3B >=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B &g= t=3B Since we've discussed portability a lot on the list=2C as well as the<= br>>=3B >=3B >=3B unrelated topic of guitar pickups that split the s= ignal per string=2C I
>=3B >=3B >=3B thought I'd mention my exper= ience auditioning a Blackbird guitar
>=3B >=3B >=3B yesterday. Bl= ackbirds are small-bodied (but full-scale) carbon-fiber
>=3B >=3B &= gt=3B acoustic guitars=2C made by hand in San Francisco. I became aware of = them
>=3B >=3B >=3B just a few weeks ago through this video shot = by Henry Kaiser of his
>=3B >=3B >=3B Blackbird being played unde= rwater in Antarctica (!).
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&= gt=3B >=3B >=3B Carbon fiber is incredibly stiff stuff=2C and survived= this experience
>=3B >=3B >=3B unscathed. (Yesterday=2C the make= r was giving it direct full-force kicks
>=3B >=3B >=3B to the bod= y to show how tough it is=2C which almost made me lose my lunch=2C
>= =3B >=3B >=3B but it didn't show a mark). It's also incredibly light -= the
>=3B >=3B >=3B nylon-string I played weighs only three pound= s. As a guitar=2C it's
>=3B >=3B >=3B surprisingly loud=2C and th= ough the body is about six inches shorter and
>=3B >=3B >=3B four= inches narrower than a regular guitar=2C it has a great bass
>=3B >= =3B >=3B response=2C as well as a really unique and clear high end. It's= a very
>=3B >=3B >=3B modern sound=2C which wouldn't be mistaken= for a concert classical=2C but I
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>=3B >=3B >=3B b= est tone=2C and durability=2C plus a really cool look.
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>=3B >=3B &g= t=3B Especially given its nice acoustic clarity=2C I think it would work>=3B >=3B >=3B extremely well for individual string processing=2C l= ike dropping the bass
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>=3B >=3B >=3B The guitar ain't cheap - with= the RMC=2C about $2000 US - but if I'm lucky
>=3B >=3B >=3B I ma= y figure out a way to acquire one for my travels.
>=3B >=3B >=3B<= br>>=3B >=3B >=3B http://www.blackbirdguitar.com
>=3B >=3B &= gt=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B gear on=2C
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>= =3B >=3B >=3B Daryl Shawn
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Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Fin= d out how. = --_f0ab682b-f007-48e5-9d3c-144bbd7098e2_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 20:20:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FB473BEBE; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=JbmT8NvP-tIA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=9qKeQpa35RWwSGWypRcA:9 a=tsHovdkbIycGKQ37KoXqn804jTwA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 Message-ID: <20091125152001.6NVB7.2831181.root@mp18> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:20:01 -0800 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Pitch transposer for retuning? Cc: Tony K In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 68.118.35.162 by ssomail.charter.net; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:19:57 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:20:04 +0000 (UTC) >From personal experence the VG99 works quite well in this regard. ---- Tony K wrote: ============= VG99, but you'll have to get a GK pickup for your guitar. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:52 AM, van Sinn wrote: > Anyone using a programmable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars? > Just tried this with my ADA PitchTraq. I used the Effects Out jack only, > set direct to zero and effects to 100 (full). > Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning, -200 a D tuning etc.. > However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when used this way. > > Any devices on the market which can do this? > Preferably without too many gadgets, so I won't have to rob a bank ;) > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 20:44:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCE243BEC7; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3f028e32-5a0c-4f65-853a-81b4c988aa35_" X-Originating-IP: [90.229.132.96] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:44:07 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <970220.56043.qm@web110217.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <970220.56043.qm@web110217.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2009 20:44:07.0245 (UTC) FILETIME=[085EE7D0:01CA6E10] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:44:08 +0000 (UTC) --_3f028e32-5a0c-4f65-853a-81b4c988aa35_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I really like sennheiser 609=2C the old 57 is rather sensitive to placement= . THe 609 is=2C to me=2C much easier to get to sound good by basically just= putting it in front of the speaker..=20 =20 Date: Wed=2C 25 Nov 2009 11:17:12 -0800 From: paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com Subject: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Hello: =20 In the past=2C I've always had guitar amps with some output capability to r= oute the signal to a looper=2C recording device=2C et al. I'm about to get = a small wattage Marshall (Class5 - 5W) with no output feature which means = I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced microphon= e? THX! =20 Regards=2C Paul = --_3f028e32-5a0c-4f65-853a-81b4c988aa35_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I =3Breally like sennheiser 609=2C the old 57 is =3Brather sensitiv= e to placement. =3BTHe 609 is=2C to me=2C =3Bmuch =3Beasier to = get to sound good =3Bby basically just putting it in front of the speak= er..
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Date: Wed=2C 25 Nov 2009 11:17:12 -0800
From: paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.co= m
Subject: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp
To: Loopers-Delight@loop= ers-delight.com

Hello:
 =3B
In the past=2C I've always had guitar amps with some output capability= to route the signal to a looper=2C recording device=2C et al. I'm about to= get a small wattage Marshall (Class5 - =3B 5W) with no output feature = which means I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably pric= ed microphone? THX!
 =3B
Regards=2C Paul

= --_3f028e32-5a0c-4f65-853a-81b4c988aa35_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 21:01:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F58C3BEDC; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:01:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:subject :date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :in-reply-to:x-mimeole:thread-index; bh=evaCrya/npZvRDSR0gqxspVgUDmbplZ5AOXgZaK6WcE=; b=bzmE6aiIb2kBV6rEkn3sWI9rgY9TsuYnQGi8y5lOIqcyGTUgIpR7euTuBWz4MNtMoU YWG+HKGO3f8fUYhyjxRJW8WFL+Epavm1Kv2URWRQbGj+n153j5Nzl8TZDfPMCRkYK0Zd Po9SXOFnEhQ5fVom468DPNp2dQtByeIKE0LUY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:in-reply-to:x-mimeole :thread-index; b=w2VNfM+hakUmfoDUcyN5kfdLkfTdLFi3HxDrXO9TikN25S/IliOsWJoiqXcUx0cu0T OlJOGTth+RsaowQDRodJmF4BiJIjUHbVx4GLfMKidIC1rwj4MMg9do8lWp5FIijK/5p2 Pwjw2cG+qMPsNyzSrbj5lu/49ji4LDs4pbAeM= Message-ID: <4b0d9b40.0f1abc0a.48ea.00e6@mx.google.com> From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: AW: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:01:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: AcpuBMi5RqSOHGmwQvaUpTmk2cIiuQADVozw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:01:55 +0000 (UTC) > In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output capability to route the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm about to get a small > wattage Marshall (Class5 - 5W) with no output feature which means I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced microphone? THX! Beyer M201. An alternative (if you're not after the sound of the amp's speaker) could be a load connected instead of the speaker, then from that to your line in: http://www.thdelectronics.com/product_page_hotplate.html Rainer From security-account@yahoo.com.com Wed Nov 25 21:44:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2265 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:44:11 UTC Received: from 5-0.jp (rental239.next-web.ad.jp [211.10.8.239]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 010323BE8E for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 54758 invoked by uid 99); 26 Nov 2009 06:01:36 +0900 Received: from 209.216.209.57 (test@5-0.jp@209.216.209.57) by 50jp.5-0.jp (envelope-from , uid 73) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (sophie: 3.06/2.80.0/4.35. Clear:RC:1(209.216.209.57):. 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"zen bones, zen flesh" is in english only. i think, i'll pick some of these for myself :-). thanks friends! 2009/11/25 Jeremy devros > I know you've gotten a lot of replies but as a Soto Zen practicioner I > recommend Shunryu Suzuki ( NOT D.T.!) 'Zen Mind, Beginners Mind' --I imagine > this has been translated. > Also, see if you can find Red Pine's translation of 'The Heart Sutra' > --Both books are wonderful, easy to read, and ultimately DEEP on further > readings and deeper understanding of Zen. My own first book on Zen was Alan > Watts 'The Way of Zen' which is also a great beginners source. > Good Luck! > > J.D.Devros > deafrose58 > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:30:29 +0100 > Subject: OT: zen for beginners > From: raul.bonell@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young person, an > intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and adapted to the actual > days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some watts, suzuki, but i'm not sure > about them.. it's for a present. thanks. > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > > ------------------------------ > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it > now. > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d9762682a19004793974a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wonderful. i still listening all the great suggestions coming and searching= through the web if some quick online bookstore does have a translated vers= ion. i found some of them, specially the classics. "zen bones, zen fle= sh" is in english only. i think, i'll pick some of these for mysel= f :-). thanks friends!

2009/11/25 Jeremy devros &= lt;deafrose58@hotmail.com>=
I know you've gotten a lot of replies but as a Soto Zen practicioner I = recommend Shunryu Suzuki ( NOT D.T.!) 'Zen Mind, Beginners Mind' --= I imagine this has been translated.
Also, see if you can=A0find Red Pine's translation of 'The Heart Su= tra' --Both books are wonderful, easy to read, and ultimately DEEP on f= urther readings and deeper understanding of Zen. My own first book on Zen w= as Alan Watts 'The Way of Zen' which is also a great beginners sour= ce.
Good Luck!
=A0
J.D.Devros
deafrose58

=A0

Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:30:29 +0100
Subject: OT: zen for beginners
= From: raul.bonel= l@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen= book for a young person, an intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understa= nd and adapted to the actual days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some w= atts, suzuki, but i'm not sure about them.. it's for a present. tha= nks.

--
Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Coll= ective: http://= www.ct-collective.com



Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews orga= nized in one place. Try it now.



--
Raul Bonell at Blogger:= http://raulbonell.blogspot.com<= /a>
Chain Tape Collective:
http= ://www.ct-collective.com

--0016e6d9762682a19004793974a7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 23:14:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 771773BE86; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Paul Richards'" , References: <970220.56043.qm@web110217.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:14:41 -0800 Message-ID: <9561EA7A6A374DD4A29ED8A0DB870E8A@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0176_01CA6DE2.0653EB80" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <970220.56043.qm@web110217.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcpuH4ve4vCpbb5oRoG38yy5BGno7QAAHOCA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:14:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0176_01CA6DE2.0653EB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You might try the Shure beta 57 as it has more output and better feedback rejection and sounds like a slightly more present and beefy sounding 57 to my ears. I've been happy with mine. The Betas are even more rugged than the SM57 if that's possible. Also the Sennheiser 409 is one my engineer friend really digs and doesn't require a mic stand as it hangs nicely over the front of the amp and is a large diaphragm mic. Another possible solution is a speaker emulator like the TAD FANTA direct box or a Hughes and Ketner red box, which would patch between the power amp and speaker and completely eliminate the possibility of leakage of ambient noise. I believe the Class 5, if that's what you are getting has a headphone out that may have a decent speaker emulator as well. You might want to check that out as well. Bill _____ From: Paul Richards [mailto:paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:17 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp Hello: In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output capability to route the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm about to get a small wattage Marshall (Class5 - 5W) with no output feature which means I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced microphone? THX! Regards, Paul ------=_NextPart_000_0176_01CA6DE2.0653EB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

You might try the  Shure beta = 57 as it has more output and better feedback rejection and sounds like a = slightly more present and beefy sounding 57 to my ears. I’ve been happy = with mine. The Betas are even more rugged than the SM57 if that’s possible. = Also the Sennheiser 409 is one my engineer friend really digs and doesn’t = require a mic stand as it hangs nicely over the front of the amp and is a large = diaphragm mic.  Another possible solution is a speaker emulator like the TAD = FANTA direct box or a Hughes and Ketner red box, which would patch between the = power amp and speaker and completely eliminate the possibility of leakage of = ambient noise. I believe the Class 5,  if that’s what you are getting = has a headphone out that may have a decent speaker emulator as well. You might = want to check that out as well.

 Bill<= /p>

 

 


From: Paul = Richards [mailto:paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November = 25, 2009 11:17 AM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT: Mike for = Recording Guitar Amp

 

Hello:

 

In the past, I've always had guitar amps = with some output capability to route the signal to a looper, recording device, = et al. I'm about to get a small wattage Marshall (Class5 -  5W) with no = output feature which means I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced microphone? THX!

 

Regards, Paul

 

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I guess "scary" to some folks. :-) > .....zen huh?..... Jodorowsky studied for a long time under a Zen master (this was also in Mexico), and I think(?) was still studying under this same master when he conceived and made the film. Jodo referred to his film 'El Topo' as an "Eastern", as opposed to the well known Hollywood "Western" films. As a friend of mine put it so well one time: "'El Topo' is an allegorical, metaphysical, Zen, spaghetti Western, splatter film". Any of the blood in the film is not gratuitous, but is symbolic of something. Actually, most scenes (or all of them?) in that film were calculated in advance to be scenes of symbolism, and much was derived, etc, from Zen. But once again this film is certainly not for everyone, so be aware of that for anyone has not seen it. ( I also would not be too quick to recommend it to a very young person, both for some of it's "intensity" and also some of it's "adult" subject matter and scenes.) Best, Rev. Fever Portland, OR --Apple-Mail-2--416399015 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
On Nov 25, 2009, at 7:41 AM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:


"El Topo" by = Alejandro Jodorowsky
wow.....i was thinking about this = movie just the other = day.....scary!

I = guess "scary" to some folks. :-)

.....zen = huh?.....

Jodorowsky= studied for a long time under a Zen master (this was also in Mexico), = and I think(?) was still studying under this same master when he = conceived and made the film.
Jodo referred to his film 'El = Topo' as an "Eastern", as opposed to the well known Hollywood "Western" = films. As a friend of mine put it so  well one time: "'El = Topo' is an allegorical, 
metaphysical, Zen, = spaghetti Western, splatter film". Any of the blood in the film is not = gratuitous, but is symbolic of something.  Actually, most scenes = (or all of them?) 
in that film were calculated in = advance to be scenes of symbolism, and much was derived, etc, from Zen. =  But once again this film is certainly not for = everyone, 
so be aware of that for anyone has not seen = it. 

( I also would not be too quick to = recommend it to a very young person, both for some of it's "intensity" = and also some of it's "adult" subject matter and = scenes.)

Best,
Rev. = Fever
Portland, OR
= --Apple-Mail-2--416399015-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 26 08:52:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E740A3BE79; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=XmTD9hEYpGAp9gFSZd0jVwNEH3eN8JjPT6H2ghWHNWU=; b=Tr85M7RtGo87jLO/r+1IM86ux9Im9jV5kMNKiSNP8o1KDsm3kaBlMrJeQ2Ne01pNLb DrFl0UCYjVV0nKMnmOH6r2LeIivnXllmYYG7G09TLmgmQeXv2U6+DDnL++mrcdDMa7tq aqOP69ce5jyWIIA3HMO1dl9vTCqgGlXTTh6jw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=mqEU550Pci4jK5CntP5q9iIwb3uLFsUYs5/e2WUGCzTFvZ2XDyeEkhE/fuuUsKIxIw v9sI76yNH1iXULP4AQCa3+3vGjGDFcCI/aZsMgn2ztLR5eWstIt0s4qFaKWdv/kUzE/U tEcgNygFiv8dBa/aKK907e1mh/GGNC5T76gwI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <970220.56043.qm@web110217.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <970220.56043.qm@web110217.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:52:05 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 79f3f509fd89ebe6 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce03d0e1fb2530479424a44 Resent-Message-ID: <2lIHBB.A.gjD.2GkDLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:52:06 +0000 (UTC) --000e0ce03d0e1fb2530479424a44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've had some great results with a Rode NT2A. cheers, os. 2009/11/25 Paul Richards > Hello: > > In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output capability to > route the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm about to get a > small wattage Marshall (Class5 - 5W) with no output feature which means I > will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced microphone? > THX! > > Regards, Paul > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ --000e0ce03d0e1fb2530479424a44 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've had some great results with a Rode NT2A.


On 21 = Nov 2009, at 16:47, ditch wrestler wrote:


Very neat = stuff.

Anybody know a way to download the = interview?


ted.
Enemies are good for self-definition. = Werner Herzog

--- On Fri, 11/20/09, Tim Nelson <psychle62@yahoo.com> = wrote:

From: Tim Nelson <psychle62@yahoo.com>
Subject= : Frisell interview
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Received: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:41 = PM

'The Strand' on the BBC aired an = interview with Bill Frisell and Mike Gibbs yesterday which you can hear = at <http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/arts/> (Click = on "Strand Thursday")

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= --Boundary_(ID_rGV0DD2PXF+r7ua1UzA5Eg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 22 15:53:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B3E83BE8B; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=IdFajEzyQVbJJg0gnKKNTjiJh4gVkDducW0lJaE7RlndeI4IKT8AfzhvYMdqvZc8hyQNOaa9PwHdth10WQlE7yIBYnBltgiRLIsA8aCmsQm4XnYXuRxcFWG4F4h9M+To1e3ifjIF4gi2tZTRZD/HqKnRhUP5Ara+qJYHgFY9oK0= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: iIQQndYVM1kSpIXexOqkAFUDoPPPElMCxgPwDngLOuxeZgX_WVi6AwoKiCeXpYpnH2bNxK4nkFmcik65I12bq9c5z48BqUPwhxJpeRF9c1SFhAogotnHjc4pUNhdr9oGJfibDnv1HP5.vdpy7EMQ2NmSsgGF3hI8b8Tf9rGxBapkofMDEEAjRHvaH4OU_.M3gvjiqepmkp15oStX.UFreWWifI5pibq8kp5YftUMeQkJs5O4K.DgTomRs6g7xCBtX0ayunQ65XbjDnmch7OVzniGkHMQn3O.9BVMxrtaQF2PcyxnT6IS3A_nY7LPLu71tKy0aRfG2zdzzg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60911212202q431e66c1u23d3a4865a9d65ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60911212202q431e66c1u23d3a4865a9d65ba@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--722337203 Message-Id: <47E24882-C36D-4BD3-9471-81A59421ED08@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: VirtualGigSpam: VSV ensemble returns to ustream Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:53:40 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:53:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--722337203 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Sorry I missed you guys - i was an hour out on my world clock calculations!!!! Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 22 Nov 2009, at 06:02, Jim Goodin wrote: > I'm pleased to announce that the ensemble I premiered at the first > annual Virtual Sound & Vision festival during early October is > returning to the virtual stage later this morning at 11am EST/1500 > UTC on uStream. I'm speaking of the trio of Jim Goodin/Peter Thorn/ > Ray Istorico featuring a collective improvisational gathering of > oud, violin, guitar, saxophone, nyckelharpa and electronic drums. > Technology permitting we'll be coming at you over my uStream > channel Sunday Morning at 11. > > I say technology permitting as we're fusing NinJam and uStream. > Peter is coming from rural Sweden, Ray here in the States in > Florida and I'm in New York. I tried this setup for the first time > during the October festival and though not perfect re the feed it > was more than not and I think I have since worked out all the > glitches to combine all of our elements in stable form. > > In that the foundation of this gathering is NinJam audio only our > ustream picture content will consist of video from our own Emile > Tobenfeld and some other still images not yet decided on. At some > point I hope to have all of us on camera but that's still in the > planning stages so for the time being think of it as strange > television or a short film. > > So please join us this morning (Nov 22) at 11am EST/1500 UTC at > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11. For times in > your locale see http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/. > > Jim > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > --Apple-Mail-1--722337203 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Sorry I missed you guys - i was an hour out on my world clock = calculations!!!!

Matt = Stevens
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On 22 Nov 2009, = at 06:02, Jim Goodin wrote:

I'm = pleased to announce that the ensemble I premiered at the first annual Virtual Sound & = Vision festival during early October is returning to the virtual = stage later this morning at 11am EST/1500 UTC on uStream.  I'm = speaking of the trio of Jim Goodin/Peter Thorn/Ray Istorico = featuring a collective improvisational gathering of oud, violin, = guitar, saxophone, nyckelharpa and electronic drums.  Technology = permitting we'll be coming at you over my uStream channel Sunday = Morning at 11.

I say technology permitting as we're fusing = NinJam and uStream.  Peter is coming from rural Sweden, Ray here in = the States in Florida and I'm in New York.  I tried this setup for = the first time during the October festival and though not perfect re the = feed it was more than not and I think I have since worked out all the = glitches to combine all of our elements in stable form.

In that = the foundation of this gathering is NinJam audio only our ustream = picture content will consist of video from our own Emile = Tobenfeld and some other still images not yet decided on.  At = some point I hope to have all of us on camera but that's still in the = planning stages so for the time being think of it as strange television = or a short film.

So please join us this morning (Nov 22) at 11am = EST/1500 UTC at http://www.ust= ream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11.  For times in your locale = see http://www.timeanddate.com= /worldclock/.

Jim

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= --Apple-Mail-1--722337203-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 22 16:09:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BD713BE8D; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:09:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=ZZXxphRodTxzhvNL+K4PSptQoduVM5fcSG8gG5N8GmxGp/A0lH8J4sO1JoSLSxNp3au93CXec2yAFBbeWLiqzd7EUvB4E4VjbR8jV3JAausgAehXZM41RzXgHl5GoXsI5roJRMlFhQJ8HvHsXbfl6wIW94k5HDgstOJreQWGY7E= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: G7NWj4AVM1llAyzXzOjc1cmC5sCW.xAGrSlcr_noDq_S_sowLcE9J4zQYKIAJ6Nd8Cb8T8zFM1nMflxzc4NomxC.g8gSizuy6x1zWRomXO5UKJ4elgHbIQwOitvBwvN.LXIUZQXQNd8RM151vwaiMOYcNz9XtIDdooBton7etAsk9xKw9uWbjIAp8rqb4rIkuqA3zLY8X6VM9_pMgLW3gLCzZn8m3eXyEXX4Q5OAk9mV4o3VOs92U6ruHqAjCrr9_C3myn0yJ2q8VPyii3t_0JhxAOUDMb7c_LM- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--721381476 From: Matt Stevens Subject: Ustream ONLINE GIG SPAM tonight Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:09:36 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:09:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--721381476 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hey guys = I'll be live on ustream tonight at 8 pm GMT http:// www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room - international times ere www.mattstevensguitar.com Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-2--721381476 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
Hey guys = I'll be live on ustream tonight at 8 pm GMT http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room - international times ere www.mattstevensguitar.com 

Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




--Apple-Mail-2--721381476-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 22 17:04:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AF6E3BE8A; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3507 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:04:15 UTC Message-Id: <170D844E-7E87-4B16-800D-415E49FD8438@kliklak.net> From: jayrope LD To: loopers delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Live: MATKOT, Berlin Nov. 28++ Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:05:39 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Hello fellow loopers, I am currently writing the complete music and noise score for a new dance theatre piece called MATKOT by Israelian choreographer Nir de Wolff (Total Brutal), vastly with the help of my good old Lexicon Jamman, and some self-programmed MAX/MSP Wii-remote looper called Laser Dave (more on this sometimes). MATKOT will be performed Nov. 28.-30 and Dec. 4.-6. 2009, 20h30/8.30pm at Berlin's Dock 11, Kastanienallee 79. http://www.totalbrutal.net Matkot is the Hebrew word for beach ball. The dance piece then is a nicely brutal, yet exploring overdrive of your usual beach experience, or what you could make of it next time, if you weren't subject to false holiday booking again. World class contemporary dancing included. More details (in Germish) http://www.dock11-berlin.de/index.php/cat/1/id/p22_Matkot.html Tickets ticket@dock11-berlin.de or call 030-4481222 Mo-Fr after 15h/3pm. Location http://www.dock11-berlin.de/index.php/cat/c7_Anfahrt.html I hope to meet some of you there, at the day of the 1st performance on Nov. 28. ***jrp - - - jayrope http://www.kliklak.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 22 18:06:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A2593BE8B; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:06:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=15XnvQ2LPBc03keJP31Fw+e2axNkmTeEBS9cwTz6aW8=; b=RKvO1BCw7e6i8nxndkZY5KGV/HmL1L0Bbcd8CbaNuQDTtZkYKFLV0U5c0XUm6TIMEs 7leZEwl7fm8/7vKCfWa+kpF/aiTnE8XJHZT+8pSf+qoJRSeGabEHvwmJ4+QpQLgoFd8b NVzOBMy5TGRfO09SIw2dmq1CKlIdOesevgd2I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iZf36gAU/txNRgQ5XSF9fmMtI//sOMNnlVgmXPS+VCoRfFzrVsw4M4N7FENwLeW2PW sk0Dx56CupHimRqlL6PUrg0u7iMwpZxXYKVJhgI/5KDGOviykaS51AlnhPU883N7G3Bj 9SwbV1bYeBmSD42a+fl/o+t01wJL1YqEAksg0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7E0510C2-F4D3-4F70-8A43-8017BFE07E25@zoekeating.com> References: <658147.72748.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <741B6432-68E4-4312-BAE1-400A64FE643B@zoekeating.com> <4B040A95.50602@googlemail.com> <7E0510C2-F4D3-4F70-8A43-8017BFE07E25@zoekeating.com> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:06:25 -0800 Message-ID: <1318f21d0911221006l6703406cr752428366bab8924@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: AW: monome as foot controller From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151774051c406ee60478f991bb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:06:27 +0000 (UTC) --00151774051c406ee60478f991bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I like the "silent" aspect of this! Last night I took apart the Pok and lubed the switch mechanisms with tri-flow. It helped, but those things are still loud. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > hopefully cheaper than the Kbow, yes! > > but "normal" footswitches are exactly what i don't want. i'm sold on the > light rubber pads....or even better...sensor pads > > > > On Nov 18, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > > Zoe Keating schrieb: >> >>> while i'm in fantasy land....the ability to change the "bank" of the >>> pedal with my Kbow...and each pad will light up with 1 of 4 colors to t= ell >>> me what bank i'm in. >>> not cheap...but possibly worth it. >>> >> >> Should be possible to build cheaper than a Kbow...;-) >> On the other hand you could still use normal footswitches and have the >> visual feedback with a Launchpad or Monome... >> >> Stefan >> >> >> -- >> Les Ondes M=E9morielles---------x-- >> --_____-----------|-----------|-- >> --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- >> -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- >> ----------()----------TJ Shredder >> >> > --=20 -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --00151774051c406ee60478f991bb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I like the "silent" aspect of this! Last night I took apart the P= ok and lubed the switch mechanisms with tri-flow. It helped, but those thin= gs are still loud.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.= com> wrote:
hopefully cheaper than the Kbow,= yes!

but "normal" footswitches are exactly what i don'= ;t want. i'm sold on the light rubber pads....or even better...sensor p= ads=20



On Nov 18, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Stefan Tiedje wr= ote:

Zoe Keating schrieb:
while i'm in fantasy land...= .the ability to change the "bank" of the pedal with my Kbow...and= each pad will light up with 1 of 4 colors to tell me what bank i'm in.=
not cheap...but possibly worth it.

Should be possible t= o build cheaper than a Kbow...;-)
On the other hand you could still use = normal footswitches and have the visual feedback with a Launchpad or Monome= ...

Stefan


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------_=_NextPart_001_01CA6BC7.420B78F8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 23 13:27:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77AF73BE8B; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B0A8DD9.2080807@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:27:53 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A note about internet cafes References: <474656.89083.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <5938286.1258841770197.JavaMail.root@n19> In-Reply-To: <5938286.1258841770197.JavaMail.root@n19> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:27:58 +0000 (UTC) FRO DIDDLY wrote: > im sure this is common sense when it comes to banks account and email- > but when visiting internet cafes....be sure to log out of your youtube > accounts as well........otherwise some pitiful soul will delete your > videos just for fun > ;o) > live and learn.....and share what you learn How, exactly, do they do that? Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 23 13:33:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8E843BE8C; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iUJIDtRuiaNLehBk4N1YsDG0RZurRASkLodrYpg/ifg=; b=tlMuWAASrMtPcSgxfkz9l9EhBkK6z+HMj+pFccgDUD8fBulDdvUkVWtaYkIGPiFKvC yizLDEj4xpjtjWpQJTik7MjdVkR8rgqgMiGuV4iz7hTXS/KVb7lfvoqUyWc/xMOsai8H z+GiWxoZxSuSD5D3vOmt8vLXUBr+vWcigm7Xw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gBd4QKswAJDFt5i99+fmVOoWOLG++lRi8M/zJ23O1PdCZFRl7B3QXzNB1oQ/Hivmjn kTc1IgVTJshgyLt9pd3EgTiKB478KFdJmlk4oA49Bd3NzsRRqPNybsZMd8mcjvQz8Ilj KiTRuFfLZmpSItsuDohlyTuHwSgC3QUy1vdCs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B0A8DD9.2080807@soundscapes.us> References: <474656.89083.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <5938286.1258841770197.JavaMail.root@n19> <4B0A8DD9.2080807@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:33:47 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911230533x6c15c79fv58dcdcb490987caa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: A note about internet cafes From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:33:48 +0000 (UTC) > FRO DIDDLY wrote: >> >> im sure this is common sense when it comes to banks account and email- >> but when visiting internet cafes....be sure to log out of your youtube >> accounts as well........otherwise some pitiful soul will delete your videos >> just for fun >> ;o) >> live and learn.....and share what you learn On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Bill Fox wrote: > > How, exactly, do they do that? "Account / Manage Account / Delete Account" Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 23 16:40:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EEB63BE8B; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:40:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B0ABAEE.3040206@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:40:14 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A note about internet cafes References: <474656.89083.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <5938286.1258841770197.JavaMail.root@n19> <4B0A8DD9.2080807@soundscapes.us> <12112029.1258983800638.JavaMail.root@n19> In-Reply-To: <12112029.1258983800638.JavaMail.root@n19> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:40:50 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: >> How, exactly, do they do that? > "Account / Manage Account / Delete Account" Sure, once they gain access. But HOW do they gain access? Unless you leave your laptop unattended in public, which would be monumentally wreckless, how would someone gain access to your account in order to perform the "Account / Manage Account / Delete Account" actions? I hear horror stories of someone remotely, wirelessly accessing other people's laptops. I guess that it is a good thing that it isn't common knowledge how to do this but I'm curious as hell. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 23 16:45:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1A763BE8D; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:subject :date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :in-reply-to:x-mimeole:thread-index; bh=423QxdRlQALCCYXdKs9wVtST9u52GYHNWtNeBZiGnWg=; b=Ub4YIVUoGi6Uowb+wjkBPlUblJ9qpdbzHYVNP48wnbZynyHXqNa1o3DgBpsfw2dDV6 c1RRg16rAXZpdvJKlUmqQZY/dfGNovdjzLq+9OXRmvR1eOzh1ZuJ5ZjkSR1pBbaPEuST w6ifqhUIRY0xgAvAqrn4rDXCpZS2BhjKlgX+8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:in-reply-to:x-mimeole :thread-index; b=vhrCZ6X1bBQna9OVnOLSn9GCDktOSsgBmrgM/0j+BXWKv/JhoUIGp1Lp+eksZb6SgN BVQDfFOyO1st/H1eyyIjPwnagFTg5gRSE9Jx5gYn5xLwTQTwli38oM8hOlHanKDMXOaL rISR+Y2i4kCg3jBWSswldRuYKDQ3sI8eLYhAk= Message-ID: <4b0abc1b.02a1660a.281b.51fa@mx.google.com> From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: AW: A note about internet cafes Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:45:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <4B0ABAEE.3040206@soundscapes.us> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 thread-index: AcpsW7njfp7e4M0QSCar2pQ24QauFAAAHN5g Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:45:18 +0000 (UTC) > > "Account / Manage Account / Delete Account" > Sure, once they gain access. But HOW do they gain access? > Unless you leave your laptop unattended in public, which Perhaps you're thinking too technologically advanced - at least in the past I've seen places called internet cafes where they had desktop computers you could use. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 23 17:21:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1EBF23BE8D; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 292065931/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.135.36/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.135.36 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiACAFFTCktPRock/2dsb2JhbAAIhDyPb4R5rh6CEAiNVoEwgRsIgRVUBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,273,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="292065931" Message-ID: <4B0AC4CB.6090008@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:22:19 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A note about internet cafes OT References: <474656.89083.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <5938286.1258841770197.JavaMail.root@n19> <4B0A8DD9.2080807@soundscapes.us> <12112029.1258983800638.JavaMail.root@n19> <4B0ABAEE.3040206@soundscapes.us> In-Reply-To: <4B0ABAEE.3040206@soundscapes.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Bill Fox wrote: > Per Boysen wrote: >>> How, exactly, do they do that? >> "Account / Manage Account / Delete Account" > Sure, once they gain access. But HOW do they gain access? they navigate to youtube, ...and you're still logged in. It's wise to do tools>>options>>delete browsing history if using a cafe machine. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 23 17:28:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87FFF3BE8D; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:28:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5XsOrktXbhTRztP1Hmomb8zdops3yEgj8S9NIINdYhk=; b=GIik6r/BLEMzNK0xu3a8qe5mgeUlhllBANBcCvUBlAsdo5F1kupKhLU8Ddz35MslqN r4MA5R7dPantJ+82QvXNbpLBNjSnzcXFqwiCEzADTj7wwQTXuT+FRXWvii7/3ipQOyJU /8kHV/1nwu2On/4T5fTY0yHF7+VUnk9igt6x0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ne30uJQjnkL6B+xKLlJndYuCsk8Y+E6IHlEhDL5cZnAYqnP1uya2FFkNiFDJ06vGPh 9s2KSs9fEmehUF+qrQ2Z4QVoRS7QRRq5NbBLx8TbgjbRiRpXWSE5zx3cMwbjj+Sk9C+Y aIkdjontfethqGEvKPJ5cqOUUMDl17ndlQCa0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B0AC4CB.6090008@tiscali.co.uk> References: <474656.89083.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <5938286.1258841770197.JavaMail.root@n19> <4B0A8DD9.2080807@soundscapes.us> <12112029.1258983800638.JavaMail.root@n19> <4B0ABAEE.3040206@soundscapes.us> <4B0AC4CB.6090008@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:28:51 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60911230928h24cf6bfeueb0155b09bcbe34a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: A note about internet cafes OT From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0023545307fcbe50c904790d2894 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:28:53 +0000 (UTC) --0023545307fcbe50c904790d2894 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 or gosh just logout or is the thought the session login info is cached? --0023545307fcbe50c904790d2894 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 or gosh just logout or is the thought the session login info is cached?

--0023545307fcbe50c904790d2894-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 23 17:39:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FC0B3BE8A; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vd88ZgA8BVU7D+BSWCfwWvG5g/kUPZPxq+u87EUtZdY=; b=EpkgjKaV6RsturS/xkcSYwvmFN+Jxqhn/OxirMwClW3EzOUEKo+tkWuenrikMHIyeJ mUHhtf4V0deEe0gVB0cDu6ee+rytbRYNUOs3posgoKXUENvH0BCpgyewC0TD7o/LV5D5 fiuc+0UDuCD2kNQls9vwU85Oy5Jvuab0OXSvM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dVJEJZm4NOLUOe+oYY8UaXXIyhpTX1VRRG9x+cjVLhIoaik8SqbQHMeR9JHaH5cf9V SIikq/bn3YAyuPXMLaK05CL8BsXwMi3pujCUK0/kb3fz2+pjhzzLhyY/9QiRVMKwIRGy cMAAYkoPyjDO5XbZnUCbEWCz1BYKzOJXjPs7M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B0AC4CB.6090008@tiscali.co.uk> References: <474656.89083.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <5938286.1258841770197.JavaMail.root@n19> <4B0A8DD9.2080807@soundscapes.us> <12112029.1258983800638.JavaMail.root@n19> <4B0ABAEE.3040206@soundscapes.us> <4B0AC4CB.6090008@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:39:19 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911230939y1d2e1732h42bf5e486ed362d3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: A note about internet cafes OT From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd761d02d3be104790d4e1c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:39:21 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd761d02d3be104790d4e1c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 The most annoying part of this thread is that some folks "delete for fun". What fun is it in that? Poor bastards. Thinking like that ultimately hurts yourself. Sad. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:22 PM, andy butler wrote: > > > Bill Fox wrote: > >> Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> How, exactly, do they do that? >>>> >>> "Account / Manage Account / Delete Account" >>> >> Sure, once they gain access. But HOW do they gain access? >> > > they navigate to youtube, ...and you're still logged in. > > It's wise to do tools>>options>>delete browsing history > if using a cafe machine. > > > andy > > --000e0cd761d02d3be104790d4e1c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The most annoying part of this thread is that some folks "delete for f= un". What fun is it in that? Poor bastards. Thinking like that ultimat= ely hurts yourself. Sad.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:22 PM, andy bu= tler <akbutl= er@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:


Bill Fox wrote:
Per Boysen wrote:
How, exactly, do they do that?
"Account / Manage Account / Delete Account"
Sure, once they gain access. =C2=A0But HOW do they gain access? =C2=A0

they navigate to youtube, ...and you're still logged in.

It's wise to do tools>>options>>delete browsing history
if using a cafe machine.


andy


--000e0cd761d02d3be104790d4e1c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 23 17:47:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71A213BE8A; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48CF9AF8312D411493E2B5254777E9B9@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <474656.89083.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <5938286.1258841770197.JavaMail.root@n19> <4B0A8DD9.2080807@soundscapes.us> <12112029.1258983800638.JavaMail.root@n19> <4B0ABAEE.3040206@soundscapes.us> <4B0AC4CB.6090008@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0911230939y1d2e1732h42bf5e486ed362d3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: A note about internet cafes OT Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:47:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_012F_01CA6C21.FA9882E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:47:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_012F_01CA6C21.FA9882E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree with you Per. I just don't understand what possible enjoyment = you can get from deleting other people's videos. All I can imagine is = that it was kids because it sounds like a very juvenile thing to do. --- Bob Amstadt Looperlative Audio Products (408) 921-LOOP ------=_NextPart_000_012F_01CA6C21.FA9882E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
I agree with you Per.  I just = don't understand=20 what possible enjoyment you can get from deleting other people's = videos. =20 All I can imagine is that it was kids because it sounds like a very = juvenile=20 thing to do.

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Bob Amstadt
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------=_NextPart_000_012F_01CA6C21.FA9882E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 23 17:52:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 547983BE8B; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1258998766; bh=EsxF1JpuJac/fR4RfoXlqJubrTVVrJnXWfwiy07xjgk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ynaUl51qfK3C5c6NHF389QxcGiXT1YrKLhu52gwXJVj8RGc+hToAA9m/VntsBIW65WskUpZYeZ8CvZEp4P0RN0MBOPDymVlU1LMcEW1oszt/BQMdhf6dOXE/I5Gv/5EyvInMaWfNdbYNVRY7Ak79twcvsCpMogVLqaHAIUJR5Og= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=6YHWQxkAOYyiGZEdRZgw1E55QOb/hnqm5kMW/mFEzEXHNlGfTvAWCfMNr4johkavrXN0pHPN3qM0oPG6RQQcZLHE4t6MFom4Vx3YZhz1Ww7PYT04zm823iLNEPAGiChS+0/m9x22osZE+cX1qGM0yhHSeVcBsWnoD+AJkDEbkMI=; Message-ID: <72363.25638.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Yto0wB0VM1kIhkB4KzrGGEOrITeKqhSP_IssZ69euTQeLKzale_QD0q88mtuKdzZ1WTI9gWmU9NJSG3YxbBwjEDkh5FaUU4FccFfu96r3Ro4_QZMT9P.BRb_ElLG2lgSFDf8AiTKemzXm3ZgOJoZcZcp0jkzY_BBlahwbgHXcF3bpHz5J.23DTMU6gyDFtyPHIAXMuvtju4_eCI4005Q3JM7Ql60jjPwEDsQZZLo8QHN6c3yCc8yRpsfAlb5ID5_6gz5IWOil2E.HLLjCtrz3PsZ8SyNJKL16eyHX5Y1XHa.dF6AAiD1JPpX4fTPRJvLL7I9hAhAovI- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:52:45 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help! To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:52:47 +0000 (UTC) hi gang,=0Ai just got the litte liquid foot midi controller and im having a= hard time controlling the EDP as i did with the behringer.=0ASo far ive ma= nage to program the virtual functions like=0Arecord=0Aoverdub=0Amultiply=0A= mute=0Aundo=0Anext=0Areverse=0Ahalf speed=0A=0Athe way i have to do this is= giving the "note on" offset number and a value of 64 and it works fine.=0A= However when i try to program any of the e DirectMidi functions it does not= respond at all,do i have to send additional comands for them to function? = i recall on the behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note number and it worked= .=0AThe otherr thing that is not working is erasing the loop by holding and= pressing the record button.=0AAnyway if u midi experts could take a little= time to help me id be really thankfull!=0Ahere is the liquid foot jr manua= l:=0A=0Ahttp://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml=0A=0AThanx=0Acheers=0Aww= w.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A__________________________________________= ________=0ADo You Yahoo!?=0ASie sind Spam leid? 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Mail verf=FCgt =FCbe= r einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. =0Ahttp://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 23 18:09:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95DCA3BE8A; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Zan5EFt+XhRYAWY3NHsFVgWkdqzOSjdRKloNjCTWOIk=; b=cG5qJ1//+licU+4dwpNJM6s8SwpDKVD4nXQcPDKKefhUEGgqqgaQFMJr+xumaeLHIL HfvyreJwNn03podcG1VmsJMzDSM2od62FcX50FVWSk+8ixKTfFEbWv8YaniDgXcLy94a QEyOdfXaM/vs5PViABM/gQh+0KJ/b06/umdVQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BkxRRPNSsv3BU+o36lu3jnLn3Cj0MkpL+HbDy3TWbiGUdQxpzo34tQVoDpqIW3SpU/ /tnoseByP5WX5V0fDFpSIL+hDjhsnChfUUI8zo3EQkXuF39opayHk6RFGQ6NuFfJSQGx EeY1sZIaeCpIAxgTP30ca1ycrebEC/sbfdOvU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <72363.25638.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <72363.25638.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:09:46 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911231009t223945cbr745604bb0798756a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd61bec08abd704790dbb93 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:09:47 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd61bec08abd704790dbb93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check the EDP manual for the note numbers wired to Direct MIDI Commands. I remember using a lot of Direct MIDI Commands with my EDP. But I think they are hardwired to MIDI Note Numbers and maybe your off-set of the non-direct command MIDI Notes have overlapped the note numbers reserved for Direct MID= I Commans? Just a guess, but worth checking out. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:52 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > hi gang, > i just got the litte liquid foot midi controller and im having a hard tim= e > controlling the EDP as i did with the behringer. > So far ive manage to program the virtual functions like > record > overdub > multiply > mute > undo > next > reverse > half speed > > the way i have to do this is giving the "note on" offset number and a val= ue > of 64 and it works fine. > However when i try to program any of the e DirectMidi functions it does n= ot > respond at all,do i have to send additional comands for them to function?= i > recall on the behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note number and it worked= . > The otherr thing that is not working is erasing the loop by holding and > pressing the record button. > Anyway if u midi experts could take a little time to help me id be really > thankfull! > here is the liquid foot jr manual: > > http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml > > Thanx > cheers > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=C3=BCgt =C3=BCber einen herausragend= en Schutz > gegen Massenmails. > http://mail.yahoo.com > > --000e0cd61bec08abd704790dbb93 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check the EDP manual for the note numbers wired to Direct MIDI Commands. I = remember using a lot of Direct MIDI Commands with my EDP. But I think they = are hardwired to MIDI Note Numbers and maybe your off-set of the non-direct= command MIDI Notes have overlapped the note numbers reserved for Direct MI= DI Commans? Just a guess, but worth checking out.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:52 PM, L.Angul= o <labaloops@ya= hoo.com> wrote:
hi gang,
i just got the litte liquid foot midi controller and im having a hard time = controlling the EDP as i did with the behringer.
So far ive manage to program the virtual functions like
record
overdub
multiply
mute
undo
next
reverse
half speed

the way i have to do this is giving the "note on" offset number a= nd a value of 64 and it works fine.
However when i try to program any of the e DirectMidi functions it does not= respond at all,do i have to send additional comands for them to function? = i recall on the behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note number and it worked= .
The otherr thing that is not working is erasing the loop by holding and pre= ssing the record button.
Anyway if u midi experts could take a little time to help me id be really t= hankfull!
here is the liquid foot jr manual:

ht= tp://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml

Thanx
cheers
www.mysp= ace.com/luisangulocom

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--000e0cd61bec08abd704790dbb93-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 23 18:45:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 785F03BE8A; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 294965900/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.135.36/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.135.36 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgICAMlmCktPRock/2dsb2JhbAAIkBiJEL4MhDwE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,273,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="294965900" Message-ID: <4B0AD88A.5060409@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:46:34 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help! References: <72363.25638.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <72363.25638.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:45:41 +0000 (UTC) what Per said for the DirectMidi. They only require Note-On (except for SUS) To get the longpress(to make reset work) I'd try changing the Button Mode to "Momentary while Holding". I don't understand where you entered "64". andy L.Angulo wrote: > hi gang, > i just got the litte liquid foot midi controller and im having a hard time controlling the EDP as i did with the behringer. > So far ive manage to program the virtual functions like > record > overdub > multiply > mute > undo > next > reverse > half speed > > the way i have to do this is giving the "note on" offset number and a value of 64 and it works fine. > However when i try to program any of the e DirectMidi functions it does not respond at all,do i have to send additional comands for them to function? i recall on the behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note number and it worked. > The otherr thing that is not working is erasing the loop by holding and pressing the record button. > Anyway if u midi experts could take a little time to help me id be really thankfull! > here is the liquid foot jr manual: > > http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml > > Thanx > cheers > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 23 18:48:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29A3F3BE8C; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EOTJCf/Vr1ZLJYnwBOCbKk64Qbil3cRFegArXEkKlHc=; b=G1iRHXuzk6nOeHXh/WWGelzXwjUiz6bc4EyxkxFWf05j8ckR1YBueH0NaZOvFYez6/ TO+VKOBTceEil94V7DVqcbO44sSQBMp+OblAA5RJMi6rtn6WpXvrrVT+y5clxuCYvgNl oqSpNwxtCB/b8NMhW9wxEvfRXE+16XAf3Loro= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OgcCS3EeZMA+FDnmDoH7VkL8qTwtlh5vSd5VWF/RP3+h5D2Dvaro2fPV4wVlSM1eue WDbRAuzmvIXeecVf1lHmU+gQ+2dgjd7A9flEV3qbfM7w+FUU0/HORyvagYvhQhsRsYqD Tsz7DiGUsxEoJ3BagtpcLzGAVUb3mBx8ljhx4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B0AD88A.5060409@tiscali.co.uk> References: <72363.25638.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4B0AD88A.5060409@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:48:10 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911231048y2f851b78ta69b8bedf9f3f91@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd761d05c40e004790e448f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:48:11 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd761d05c40e004790e448f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 64 is more than FIVE OCTAVES! ;-)) A somewhat massive offset... Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:46 PM, andy butler wrote= : > what Per said for the DirectMidi. > > They only require Note-On (except for SUS) > > To get the longpress(to make reset work) I'd try changing the Button Mode > to "Momentary while Holding". > > > I don't understand where you entered "64". > > andy > > L.Angulo wrote: > >> hi gang, >> i just got the litte liquid foot midi controller and im having a hard ti= me >> controlling the EDP as i did with the behringer. >> So far ive manage to program the virtual functions like >> record >> overdub >> multiply >> mute >> undo >> next >> reverse >> half speed >> >> the way i have to do this is giving the "note on" offset number and a >> value of 64 and it works fine. >> However when i try to program any of the e DirectMidi functions it does >> not respond at all,do i have to send additional comands for them to >> function? i recall on the behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note number = and >> it worked. >> The otherr thing that is not working is erasing the loop by holding and >> pressing the record button. >> Anyway if u midi experts could take a little time to help me id be reall= y >> thankfull! >> here is the liquid foot jr manual: >> >> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml >> >> Thanx >> cheers >> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=C3=BCgt =C3=BCber einen herausragen= den Schutz >> gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> > --000e0cd761d05c40e004790e448f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 64 is more than FIVE OCTAVES! ;-)) A somewhat massive offset...

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.p= erboysen.com


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:46 PM, andy bu= tler <akbutl= er@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
what Per said for the DirectMidi.

They only require Note-On (except for SUS)

To get the longpress(to make reset work) I'd try changing the Button Mo= de to "Momentary while Holding".


I don't understand where you entered "64".

andy

L.Angulo wrote:
hi gang,
i just got the litte liquid foot midi controller and im having a hard time = controlling the EDP as i did with the behringer.
So far ive manage to program the virtual functions like
record
overdub
multiply
mute
undo
next
reverse
half speed

the way i have to do this is giving the "note on" offset number a= nd a value of 64 and it works fine.
However when i try to program any of the e DirectMidi functions it does not= respond at all,do i have to send additional comands for them to function? = i recall on the behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note number and it worked= .
The otherr thing that is not working is erasing the loop by holding and pre= ssing the record button.
Anyway if u midi experts could take a little time to help me id be really t= hankfull!
here is the liquid foot jr manual:

ht= tp://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml

Thanx
cheers
www.mysp= ace.com/luisangulocom

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=C3=BCgt =C3=BCber einen herausragenden= Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com



--000e0cd761d05c40e004790e448f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 23 19:08:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D03BC3BE8A; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:08:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 644 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:08:53 UTC Message-ID: <00a801ca6c6e$e4d77bd0$0500000a@erdem1> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: national radios in europe Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:58:06 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A5_01CA6C7F.A810F350" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <2m-SgD.A.iuC.F3tCLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:08:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A5_01CA6C7F.A810F350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, as some of you may know my new album has been released in taiwan. i = would like to send a few copies to national radios in europe. anyone has = info about this? you can listen to excerpts at my myspace page. subtle looping, live = electronics, prepared piano, electric guitar and pipa... thanks a lot and best regards. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: www.aucourantrecords.com "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and=20 allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." Blogcritics, Richard Marcus "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." Massimo Ricci, touching extremes = = ------=_NextPart_000_00A5_01CA6C7F.A810F350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi,
 
as some of you may know my new album has been released in taiwan. i = would=20 like to send a few copies to national radios in europe. anyone has info = about=20 this?
 
you can listen to excerpts at my myspace page. subtle looping, live = electronics, prepared piano, electric guitar and pipa...
 
thanks a lot and best regards.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out = now on=20 Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com
 
"wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and =
allow you=20 to explore worlds previously closed to you."
Blogcritics, Richard=20 Marcus
 
"wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, = period."
Massimo=20 Ricci, touching extremes
= = ------=_NextPart_000_00A5_01CA6C7F.A810F350-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 23 19:20:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4038C3BE8E; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259004042; bh=+HpcedrHt++W+B39bwzHEdc3jsElX+XPkFIyiH4dZUU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=oPJEL/J1liCpMg/PQtsUQzhJb4QyiL/SQ2JohGNCrXxOMgUd1/K88vCUhyxwZizH4ZHT5kRF+KaL6tCsW7RA/FbzcyumjCcA3f5g9S3ldufEvhnmBfXIiypgdyQwgsjXC6Vnmah08Zt5p5u7bv590CAWWZw9iTfgvRxxsimrjsk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Bl/Xe2fQMpLHY8asBjcoNJHuJSMkzqBcx6dBWxINlkYnNPaunlnm2+dnF0BOGkosyhRX53rTncrj+7w435p7HRXYWb5hBatyaqsKJmF0I4Y60ePSNbVKc6AeZ196gUyU76/OKNxOMqyTzxdH2SAlLlvipXVkrgT+5zyNcorLU+M=; Message-ID: <976867.51234.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aAslH6IVM1nSsG0dUECMz6dyjtvhu1pC_1YXbUwgW3.Rq0tJJeLLOiCWWuV2kRA_1b3ax19OkXYUJv5VN1T6HstUlF2Qa4TLFO3meC5feCOVHr3LGGLMs44r2PC4B7aX1aCryuupI9dhWZgN6gLZPzI7WcV9qjVeF_nQvzNZ8jgVV_Cb3OuKdty7gfjy05iAkxEHmvhaUkrJt1fAWCqv_TOVASpiUO4h3VTN17.fhYV_MuAkJ8qdHsNy4QkkRw5SnvWJWQLJYDShH0DY_wj8t3enYMsjXUek2ldPcphO7GdfxKTXOLwqNpchNU4cNdbxZK4mXx3SKUU- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:20:42 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4B0AD88A.5060409@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:20:44 +0000 (UTC) sorry,i meant entering an offset number followed by 127 as "data value",i d= o have to enter that or otherwise the functions will not work.=0Aas far as = programing a direct midi function like "general reset" =0A36 is the EDP sou= rce # plus 26 offset so i enter a 62 as stated in the manual,but its sill n= ot working....=0A=0Acheers=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- andy= butler schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:=0A=0A> Von: and= y butler =0A> Betreff: Re: programing liquid foot j= r. midi footcontroller with EDP help!=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=0A> Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009, 10:46=0A> what Per said for th= e DirectMidi.=0A> =0A> They only require Note-On (except for SUS)=0A> =0A> = To get the longpress(to make reset work) I'd try changing=0A> the Button Mo= de to "Momentary while Holding".=0A> =0A> =0A> I don't understand where you= entered "64".=0A> =0A> andy=0A> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> > hi gang,=0A> > i jus= t got the litte liquid foot midi controller and=0A> im having a hard time c= ontrolling the EDP as i did with the=0A> behringer.=0A> > So far ive manage= to program the virtual functions=0A> like=0A> > record=0A> > overdub=0A> >= multiply=0A> > mute=0A> > undo=0A> > next=0A> > reverse=0A> > half speed= =0A> > =0A> > the way i have to do this is giving the "note on"=0A> offset = number and a value of 64 and it works fine.=0A> > However when i try to pro= gram any of the e DirectMidi=0A> functions it does not respond at all,do i = have to send=0A> additional comands for them to function? i recall on the= =0A> behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note number and it=0A> worked.=0A> >= The otherr thing that is not working is erasing the=0A> loop by holding an= d pressing the record button.=0A> > Anyway if u midi experts could take a l= ittle time to=0A> help me id be really thankfull!=0A> > here is the liquid = foot jr manual:=0A> > =0A> > http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml=0A>= > =0A> > Thanx=0A> > cheers=0A> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> > =0A>= > __________________________________________________=0A> > Do You Yahoo!?= =0A> > Sie sind Spam leid? 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Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden Schutz = gegen Massenmails. =0Ahttp://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 23 20:55:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 925DD3BE8A; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 295039257/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.135.36/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.135.36 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqABADeFCktPRock/2dsb2JhbAAIkBnGVoQ8BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,273,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="295039257" Message-ID: <4B0AF6E9.701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:56:09 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help! References: <976867.51234.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <976867.51234.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:55:17 +0000 (UTC) L.Angulo wrote: > sorry,i meant entering an offset number followed by 127 as "data value",i do have to enter that or otherwise the functions will not work. > as far as programing a direct midi function like "general reset" > 36 is the EDP source # plus 26 offset so i enter a 62 as stated in the manual,but its sill not working.... yep, 62 is a General reset with Source#=36 The "data value" is a clue that you're sending a CC. EDP will only respond if Controlsource= Ctr andy > > cheers > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- andy butler schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009: > >> Von: andy butler >> Betreff: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help! >> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009, 10:46 >> what Per said for the DirectMidi. >> >> They only require Note-On (except for SUS) >> >> To get the longpress(to make reset work) I'd try changing >> the Button Mode to "Momentary while Holding". >> >> >> I don't understand where you entered "64". >> >> andy >> L.Angulo wrote: >>> hi gang, >>> i just got the litte liquid foot midi controller and >> im having a hard time controlling the EDP as i did with the >> behringer. >>> So far ive manage to program the virtual functions >> like >>> record >>> overdub >>> multiply >>> mute >>> undo >>> next >>> reverse >>> half speed >>> >>> the way i have to do this is giving the "note on" >> offset number and a value of 64 and it works fine. >>> However when i try to program any of the e DirectMidi >> functions it does not respond at all,do i have to send >> additional comands for them to function? i recall on the >> behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note number and it >> worked. >>> The otherr thing that is not working is erasing the >> loop by holding and pressing the record button. >>> Anyway if u midi experts could take a little time to >> help me id be really thankfull! >>> here is the liquid foot jr manual: >>> >>> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml >>> >>> Thanx >>> cheers >>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen >> herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com >> > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 23 21:08:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD5413BE87; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:08:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259010482; bh=3kXr9j5y7lBvieaWeR0x52pKDBjW0isgx7TkAfKR37c=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OTGT9D0s/lE+ZTUQw0EU4jbu7BYw+ak/X4MWxGTF4/1/cmIMNMPLtr10kA4MtAeqKrkJNCwlsf0zCbvOSFkpbspITNtXk3HBKX7LYykC8QahsVe55Rccd6u+ypfwvNf9iA9+PiLbT+/Ja/3bTGGiUK/+eJSnqwoGM3elYIK/Nzs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=KUcNvOV37bUauiiPNqY8XHDFVqvYzF7qSth4exvU9Xp6Z3pwwCEel3/Z6KEUKelkWsjzKMmphwnO6QOvoWDtc2w/70cLOU7kIBB5EAbHolT/9AqCovvMovpy4oYXm77aRnnwKW0Kc5m4fRmt0elTEDZwfj4XYG7fSDDNYn6kGJI=; Message-ID: <637374.62744.qm@web24302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 4CQPSbUVM1mi1BBkRodjVCnp1zFqPFMzV5bgiWmlPFtkwePSL7jF7DNn_F9JmXy9pIIfJGFGbuRHCIPRmzwhkpdsvzOx834UdsWJF7jE2M8VXxlYVAFBLiKY62yPE5zxC6raLVZzjP8fnd2CgeN.Pmq96lDSURdneCbFWhZO8im.oz16qJ7szdrQaTMjr_SwB06ilEyRWwdMSEsvpYdZyV03xCYCB0Smmfm4K_X9fSy9MmMs4vaDgRLFAb1dTllaBbTOASOcIYaMjpC6m8zWQDaAepsSCQ5TrkZUXxBowIRDc1zt6WVpP_DM136_J8Y3951LmVkCiFY- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:08:02 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4B0AF6E9.701@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:08:03 +0000 (UTC) =0A> yep, 62 is a General reset with Source#=3D36=0A> =0A> The "data value= " is a clue that you're sending a CC.=0A> EDP will only respond if Controls= ource=3D Ctr=0A> =0A=0Anot really,otherwise the others wouldnt be working r= ight?=0Ain the foot controller i set it up to send "note on" then i give it= the general reset note number in this case 62, and then it has 2 slots to = give data value,at first i left those blank but it didnt work then i just g= ave a value of 127 and voila.=0ABut as i said its only working for the virt= ual comands and not the direct midi ones and is driving me crazy!=0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A> =0A> =0A> andy=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> > =0A> > cheer= s=0A> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > --- andy butler <= akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=0A> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:=0A> > =0A> >> Von: a= ndy butler =0A> >> Betreff: Re: programing liquid f= oot jr. midi=0A> footcontroller with EDP help!=0A> >> An: Loopers-Delight@l= oopers-delight.com=0A> >> Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009, 10:46=0A> >> wh= at Per said for the DirectMidi.=0A> >> =0A> >> They only require Note-On (e= xcept for SUS)=0A> >> =0A> >> To get the longpress(to make reset work) I'd = try=0A> changing=0A> >> the Button Mode to "Momentary while Holding".=0A> >= > =0A> >> =0A> >> I don't understand where you entered "64".=0A> >> =0A> >>= andy=0A> >> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >>> hi gang,=0A> >>> i just got the litte = liquid foot midi=0A> controller and=0A> >> im having a hard time controllin= g the EDP as i did=0A> with the=0A> >> behringer.=0A> >>> So far ive manage= to program the virtual=0A> functions=0A> >> like=0A> >>> record=0A> >>> ov= erdub=0A> >>> multiply=0A> >>> mute=0A> >>> undo=0A> >>> next=0A> >>> rever= se=0A> >>> half speed=0A> >>> =0A> >>> the way i have to do this is giving = the "note=0A> on"=0A> >> offset number and a value of 64 and it works=0A> f= ine.=0A> >>> However when i try to program any of the e=0A> DirectMidi=0A> = >> functions it does not respond at all,do i have to=0A> send=0A> >> additi= onal comands for them to function? i recall=0A> on the=0A> >> behringer fcb= 1010 i just gave the note number and=0A> it=0A> >> worked.=0A> >>> The othe= rr thing that is not working is=0A> erasing the=0A> >> loop by holding and = pressing the record button.=0A> >>> Anyway if u midi experts could take a l= ittle=0A> time to=0A> >> help me id be really thankfull!=0A> >>> here is th= e liquid foot jr manual:=0A> >>> =0A> >>> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downlo= ads.shtml=0A> >>> =0A> >>> Thanx=0A> >>> cheers=0A> >>> www.myspace.com/lui= sangulocom=0A> >>> =0A> >>>=0A> ___________________________________________= _______=0A> >>> Do You Yahoo!?=0A> >>> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf= =FCgt =FCber=0A> einen=0A> >> herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http= ://mail.yahoo.com =0A> > =0A> > ___________________________________________= _______=0A> > Do You Yahoo!?=0A> > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCg= t =FCber einen=0A> herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yah= oo.com =0A> > =0A> =0A> =0A=0A_____________________________________________= _____=0ADo You Yahoo!?=0ASie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! 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Many thanks, Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 06:09:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85B303BE8C; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Baby's first Monome Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:09:47 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Fans of low tech audio toys might like this. http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/musical-instruments/c4e1/?cpg=115H4 Without MIDI this looks like it would get boring after awhile but hey it's $50. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 06:28:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CE313BE8C; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:28:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=tMrl2qyIUkTkI1IuVxCWYfbh0GB9wOTYvAbd4E8IVqg=; b=emWe4qdwurbMmUCg76/6hf6ntJcKsVNsj9cwNlk7MEn8egMVRytvQPjiY8ACTXfCcp BTBprQHiE9SoBTSHl0uyABgRgd/A4lvH9hrnM0LNl+dP881lMgDMIZTuxxsQv95m0oM0 FffZnHZzvW1fypdxuEUzvxnu70pkwg3o7Cces= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=CI9YXy/mm/1gN6hFlUTd3HFvcshBNVR7r/NA1PSVrUSeOaI6GgZul5xEQhQP7KTQ4M 2ARaF5Ek4OYp8YJRokDWKAksX2hBbxGY9AFa5HEDefw5i3eqYtAF7EDMQ6z7hAw+DV5F 2FKlvT0FDxwML77LXw3xrTmFGvsCfIE4Hyx8w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:28:54 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60911232228x76e55a50l3c6565bd9ad8bfc9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: VirtualGigSpam recording: Sunday's webcast with Goodin/Thorn/Istorico/Duke From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1e4166969210479180e5f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:28:57 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd1e4166969210479180e5f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm part of a new collective that was born from several paths. We introduced this project at the Virtual Sound & Visionfestival in early October. The ensemble made up of Peter Thorn (Sweden), Ray Istorico (USA), newly introduced Jeff Duke (USA) and myself (USA) perfomed live on my randomly somewhat bi-weekly ustream webcast Sunday Morning at 11 . As this is a NinJam project and we were streaming live to uStream we combined with the fine video and still imagery of Emile Tobenfeldwho we are indebted for the use of his work. Here's the link to the bulk of the set. Due to some breakups the archive was split up, this one goes from @15 min to end of the cast, @45 minutes. http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2617821. A name is still being discussed. Another performance will be scheduled soon. Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --000e0cd1e4166969210479180e5f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm part of a new collective that was born from several paths.=A0 We in= troduced this project at the Virtual Sound & Vision festival in early October.=A0 The ensemble = made up of Peter Thorn (Sweden), Ray Istorico (USA), newly introduced Jeff = Duke (USA) and myself (USA) perfomed live on my randomly somewhat bi-weekly= ustream webcast Sunday Morning at 11.=A0 As this is a NinJam project and we were s= treaming live to uStream we combined with the fine video and still imagery = of Emile Tobenfeld who we are in= debted for the use of his work.=A0 Here's the link to the bulk of the s= et.=A0 Due to some breakups the archive was split up, this one goes from @1= 5 min to end of the cast, @45 minutes.=A0 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2617821.

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--000e0cd1e4166969210479180e5f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 08:40:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5365E3BE8C; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:40:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uvsW3Tj97IGSAIp0UQ/eIrOUA5ahGgVez1JLsEdgZL8=; b=bpJibTxkvmkI5YvUgsQYb4BIcb2yX7RZ3hdmi7BwuSWtMVRS8Fz7pkVhNEmknEmF+I YB/C3QS3RladtWNjE2sNydbYZuxBvjtFbE9i2SZ97wXzgv+oUF3UlwJoVJUjoHbjVfWz gETLnKjojuz5v6eV4ByRALCFEj1pP8gaS/uXs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o7C3yoduRjj/jbKQ1Cmr8aPWyhgrhJ6Q2BUwAwtrXQcknwBnElWzDQpLLnaGgr+cgS wUsGFmYleRDMy5/hJ7NOq/MnXrMbwn62geZJWFOGYvvd9zEE+6mOz3EljJ5sZUlxmoEG FSM7VenhKgdkq5n0O/EyTB8IrWmHXa5V6DSHY= Message-ID: <4B0B9C00.2030603@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:40:32 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: monome as foot controller References: <658147.72748.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <741B6432-68E4-4312-BAE1-400A64FE643B@zoekeating.com> <4B040A95.50602@googlemail.com> <7E0510C2-F4D3-4F70-8A43-8017BFE07E25@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <7E0510C2-F4D3-4F70-8A43-8017BFE07E25@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:40:38 +0000 (UTC) Zoe Keating schrieb: > hopefully cheaper than the Kbow, yes! > > but "normal" footswitches are exactly what i don't want. i'm sold on the > light rubber pads....or even better...sensor pads I once used a toy dance mat for a Disney kids game (still have it). Unfortunately it was very unreliable so it was a nice try. But I can imagine that new technology in higher quality could do that better. I wonder though why other technologies for foot switches never made it on to the stage, there must be a reason... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 09:43:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E1C53BE8B; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:43:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 292460845/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.183.71/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.183.71 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao0BACY6C0tPRrdH/2dsb2JhbAAIkBrGG4Q8BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,276,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="292460845" Message-ID: <4B0BAB09.30106@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:44:41 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help! References: <637374.62744.qm@web24302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <637374.62744.qm@web24302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:43:54 +0000 (UTC) L.Angulo wrote: > in the foot controller i set it up to send "note on" then i give it the general reset note number in this case 62, and then it has 2 slots to give data value,at first i left those blank but it didnt work then i just gave a value of 127 and voila. right, so the 2 data values represent Note-On Velocity and Note-Off velocity. If Note-On Velocity was zero the EDP (and any other device) would treat the Note=On as a Note-Off, and wouldn't respond. > But as i said its only working for the virtual comands and not the direct midi ones and is driving me crazy! huh, 62 General reset *is* a Direct Midi. ..and that's a "voila" Is it possible that you mean other Direct Midi's aren't working? If they were SUS commands then that makes sense, and ties in with your observation that longpress on Record (to give Reset) isn't working. My guess is that your controller is sending Note-On/Note-Off pairs on pressing the switch, not waiting for you to release it before sending the Note-Off. So, the Direct Midi SUS commands will not be audible. (e.g. SUS Reverse would reverse for such a small time that you wouldn't perceive it) I had a look at the manual for your controller, it describes a number of "button modes". One of those is "Momentary while Holding" ....that's what you want. (or whatever causes the Note-Off to be sent as you *release* the switch) hope that helps andy > > > > > >> >> andy >> >> >> >> >> >>> cheers >>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >>> >>> >>> --- andy butler >> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009: >>>> Von: andy butler >>>> Betreff: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi >> footcontroller with EDP help! >>>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>> Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009, 10:46 >>>> what Per said for the DirectMidi. >>>> >>>> They only require Note-On (except for SUS) >>>> >>>> To get the longpress(to make reset work) I'd try >> changing >>>> the Button Mode to "Momentary while Holding". >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't understand where you entered "64". >>>> >>>> andy >>>> L.Angulo wrote: >>>>> hi gang, >>>>> i just got the litte liquid foot midi >> controller and >>>> im having a hard time controlling the EDP as i did >> with the >>>> behringer. >>>>> So far ive manage to program the virtual >> functions >>>> like >>>>> record >>>>> overdub >>>>> multiply >>>>> mute >>>>> undo >>>>> next >>>>> reverse >>>>> half speed >>>>> >>>>> the way i have to do this is giving the "note >> on" >>>> offset number and a value of 64 and it works >> fine. >>>>> However when i try to program any of the e >> DirectMidi >>>> functions it does not respond at all,do i have to >> send >>>> additional comands for them to function? i recall >> on the >>>> behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note number and >> it >>>> worked. >>>>> The otherr thing that is not working is >> erasing the >>>> loop by holding and pressing the record button. >>>>> Anyway if u midi experts could take a little >> time to >>>> help me id be really thankfull! >>>>> here is the liquid foot jr manual: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml >>>>> >>>>> Thanx >>>>> cheers >>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >>>>> >>>>> >> __________________________________________________ >>>>> Do You Yahoo!? >>>>> Sie sind Spam leid? 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 14:32:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B1A63BE84; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:32:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B0BEE62.90706@soundscapes.us> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:32:02 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: A note about internet cafes References: <20843194.1258995258289.JavaMail.root@n19> In-Reply-To: <20843194.1258995258289.JavaMail.root@n19> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:32:06 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: >>> "Account / Manage Account / Delete Account" >>> >> Sure, once they gain access. But HOW do they gain access? >> Unless you leave your laptop unattended in public, which >> > > Perhaps you're thinking too technologically advanced - at least in the past > I've seen places called internet cafes where they had desktop computers you > could use. > Yes, that can do it. At the radio stations where I host shows, I always make sure that the save password feature is turned off and that browsing history is not saved... in addition to logging off any sites where I visited. Sharing public hardware requires a certain amount of safety precautions. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 17:08:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A657D3BE8B; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <22337.65.48.1259082519.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:08:39 -0400 (AST) Subject: OT:Matryomin ensemble Mable From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: "Loopers-Delight Loopers-Delight" User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Not really looping,but quite interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfeFDEl6_lw&feature=featured Andre Donawa http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 18:15:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBEFD3BE8A; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:15:43 -0800 Subject: FS/FT: Various pedals looking for Itouch, etc From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Sold some, few more. Looking for some odd trades which may help deals. Items looking for in trades(in order): ITouch, DSi, unusal synths,frac/Modcan A stuff, Kaoss pad, handheld music devices or weird effects. No guitars, amps. Selling a bunch of pedals. Will listen to offers for multiple buys as well. A. Boss AutoWah AW-2. $55 Like new in box. B. Line6 FM4 Filter/guitar synth modeler. $160 Great condition. Does all sorts of autowah and filtering as well as mono guitar synth sounds. Stereo in/out and CV in to make it a Wah, etc. C. DAED Feedback Synth - $250. Now with it's own web page! :) http://helpwantedproductions.com/daed/FBS/DAEDFBS.htm D. Ibanez Weeping Demon wah $65 - Like new in box w/all papers. Extremely versitle wah with settings and options galore. E. Ibanez AFL autofilter - $75 - unique filter sound for an autowah (Jerry Garcia favored this series) LP/BP and *sliders* for control plus lo/hi settings for ultra flexibilty. In GREAT shape. F. Vintage MXR Dynacomp (block logo) - $110 - Not reissue, the real deal. G. Heathkit 60s FuZZZ! $200. Controls are "distortion" Boost" as well as two way toggle to add more bass to the signal. Sweet 60s germanium hand wired goodness. H. Boss CS-2 Compressor - $75- old standby, MIJ OOP. good shape. I. Tech21 Bass Compactor - $75 Versitile solid bass compressor. Perfect for live use or recording. with original box. J. Boutique DAED Disturbo DS-1 Filter/Synth-Fuzz/Distortion - $95 Modified Boss DS-1 pedal given new life and transformed into a processing machine. Self oscillating Theremin plus two OUT there filter settings. Now with Superbright Orange 5mm LED. K. Ibanez TS5/TS9 modified to original TS9 specs with socketed and upgraded 4558 chip, etc. Flip a switch and it's a Circuit Bent Synth with Mods by DAED - $55 5mm GREEN LED installed A VERY versatile pedal and one of one. Prices are fair but will consider reasonable offers especially if you buy multiple items. Some Pics and more info: http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/Salez/FS.htm Thanks! -- ---------------------------------------- Now Available for Purchase with Demos online: The DAED FEEDBACK SYNTHESIZER DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com/daed.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 18:52:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D86E3BE8C; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 820 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:52:09 UTC Message-Id: From: Reyn Ouwehand To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Ableton 8 Looping problems Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:38:15 +0100 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-MultiKabel-MailScanner-Information: Please go to http://www.multikabel.nl/contact/ for more information X-MultiKabel-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MultiKabel-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam X-MultiKabel-MX-MailScanner-Information: Please go to http://www.multikabel.nl/contact/ for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 1ND0HN-0001DK-KX X-MultiKabel-MX-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MultiKabel-MX-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MailScanner-From: reyn@reyn.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Hey guys, I made the switch some weeks ago to go from hardware looping (EPD) to software looping (Ableton 8) to have a bit more control. I think I made the right decision, just stereo is already a big benefit and to be able to run multiple loopers at once makes it much more controlable while on stage. But, it's getting better and better, but whatever I try it just doesn't seem to work perfect. But I still get this latency issues. It just doesn't seem to align. And also the first loop seems to drift from the main click. I also updated my MacBook to the full 4GB or RAM and still I get these "out of memory errors". Anyone has the same experiences? 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 20:23:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E39F3BE87; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:23:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=C6d1W99C+q6OrHsMyeUTcBKZfornne2bdsNmY1TaRwo=; b=kL716i12SMyemoyo4XwyO+NQQ3Y/B5Jn/xPc0oKIZ2fifrakWP/50KoeVfhOn7FYmf BBjLQ2n6GZX3wmso0wMy25Yz9uyOioigkP96E3RDcRr/0Duq+wusud8fRiQFmw0SnrFK 49nyEXk0Pj3L+XVPkF3UsJ5VAUGojH48+cXmI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=B0UiygfCy8rYaHPhJM9aUrjdUB564/Uwj4U7GqjJ+p1EJ7JtTVGjthVjf28dc7ssLk 7/DOY96IPm98Pg+MDL7OASXtlx5Y/w/loDGrVVgp1+Mp79UNMsbdIUfNuUIz4lFwgpLu hEsQUzmVfAf6xbsFVO4cEl1fv5bzKhSSizivU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:23:31 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0911241223r6a9efaw98aa6b4ba7ec2264@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ableton 8 Looping problems From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:23:33 +0000 (UTC) Hi Reyn, I use the Ableton 8 looper. I'm running windows and with 2Gb of RAM I haven't had any out of memory issues. I also haven't noticed sync or latency problems. Are you using MMX or ASIO in the preferences for audio? I noticed with 8 that it is set to MMX by default. ASIO should be much better in terms of latency. Timing seems rock solid. My loops don't seem to drift at all. I'd give 8 a big thumbs up. I also like the multi-function loop button. For syncing a loops with drum patterns it's my favorite. On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote: > Hey guys, > > I made the switch some weeks ago to go from hardware looping (EPD) to > software looping (Ableton 8) to have a bit more control. I think I made the > right decision, just stereo is already a big benefit and to be able to run > multiple loopers at once makes it much more controlable while on stage. > > But, it's getting better and better, but whatever I try it just doesn't seem > to work perfect. But I still get this latency issues. It just doesn't seem > to align. And also the first loop seems to drift from the main click. > > I also updated my MacBook to the full 4GB or RAM and still I get these "out > of memory errors". > > Anyone has the same experiences? > > Cheers, > > Reyn > > www.reyn.net > > www.reyn.vs.reyn.net > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 20:25:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC35F3BE8A; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:25:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <4F416546-8135-49EC-9FDF-D064B23EEC0B@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Ableton 8 Looping problems Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:25:30 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Server-Quench: 8fd7399a-d937-11de-97bb-002264978518 X-Report-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwdZfTQRGRpo UEhAUlBSHgdtCxkD SBkYTBtzaQNDZn9x bFlgW3JeQ0Q0KzcC OS4zbQUGYmJpa2dR UUVbf01cJldNfRZM O00rXXAKfGQGMi99 TlA5NXVpZW8FdngE HVFQdAIEe0tZVhc2 Qx0eGjNnTQUhQCIr LhopYkYGG0wVP0Ap WQAA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.1014:706/Kp X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:25:55 +0000 (UTC) It took me a while to get it right but adjusting the midi delay settings on the IAC driver in Live's preferences did the trick for me. On Nov 24, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote: > Hey guys, > > I made the switch some weeks ago to go from hardware looping (EPD) > to software looping (Ableton 8) to have a bit more control. I think > I made the right decision, just stereo is already a big benefit and > to be able to run multiple loopers at once makes it much more > controlable while on stage. > > But, it's getting better and better, but whatever I try it just > doesn't seem to work perfect. But I still get this latency issues. > It just doesn't seem to align. And also the first loop seems to > drift from the main click. > > I also updated my MacBook to the full 4GB or RAM and still I get > these "out of memory errors". > > Anyone has the same experiences? > > Cheers, > > Reyn > > www.reyn.net > > www.reyn.vs.reyn.net > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 20:27:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 443563BE8B; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:27:03 UTC Message-Id: <3F688B45-6423-4ECD-97AC-FB7439567821@johnfloridis.com> From: john floridis To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Morpheus DropTune Octave Guitar Effects Pedal Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:20:22 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Has anyone experimented with this pedal. I'd never heard of it before..... http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Morpheus-DropTune-Octave-Guitar-Effects-Pedal?sku=583554 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 20:46:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 454CC3BE82; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 486 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:46:52 UTC Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:38:45 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <18475003.8152171259095125652.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <3F688B45-6423-4ECD-97AC-FB7439567821@johnfloridis.com> Subject: Re: Morpheus DropTune Octave Guitar Effects Pedal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_414148_231526081.1259095125650" X-Originating-IP: [170.63.96.108] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.18_GA_3076.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/5.0.18_GA_3076.RHEL5_64) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:46:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_414148_231526081.1259095125650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Neither had I, but wow, the write up sure sounds good! ----- Original Message ----- From: "john floridis" To: "Loopers Delight" Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:20:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Morpheus DropTune Octave Guitar Effects Pedal Has anyone experimented with this pedal. I'd never heard of it before..... http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Morpheus-DropTune-Octave-Guitar-Effects-Pedal?sku=583554 ------=_Part_414148_231526081.1259095125650 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Neither had I, but wow, the write up sure sounds good!

----- Original Message -----
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To: "Loopers Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
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Subject: Morpheus DropTune Octave Guitar Effects Pedal

Has anyone experimented with this pedal. I'd never heard of it  
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http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Morpheus-DropTune-Octave-Guitar-Effects-Pedal?sku=583554

------=_Part_414148_231526081.1259095125650-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 20:59:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C05B23BE86; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:59:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B0C4945.10301@asyouthink.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:59:49 -0800 From: CM User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ableton 8 Looping problems References: <588ce11d0911241223r6a9efaw98aa6b4ba7ec2264@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0911241223r6a9efaw98aa6b4ba7ec2264@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <76XqCD.A.zIB.LlEDLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:59:55 +0000 (UTC) I've been thinking about making this same shift myself (from Repeater + Ableton-as-non-recording-loop-player to Ableton-as-live-recording-looper).  On a standard laptop sound setup w/o special audio hardware (just as a test bed) the latency was too long for my taste. My old desktop rig has an old Echo Gina card / break-out box, but is ancient hardware (PIII, believe it or not); haven't tried it there yet. I'm planning on upgrading this machine though.

What are most Windows folks using for the audio hardware these days, and what should be typical good/expected latency times w/Ableton?

C

Art Simon wrote:
Hi Reyn,

I use the Ableton 8 looper. I'm running windows and with 2Gb of RAM I
haven't had any out of memory issues.

I also haven't noticed sync or latency problems. Are you using MMX or
ASIO in the preferences for audio? I noticed with 8 that it is set to
MMX by default. ASIO should be much better in terms of latency.

Timing seems rock solid. My loops don't seem to drift at all. I'd give
8 a big thumbs up. I also like the multi-function loop button. For
syncing a loops with drum patterns it's my favorite.

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Reyn Ouwehand <reyn@reyn.net> wrote:
  
Hey guys,

I made the switch some weeks ago to go from hardware looping (EPD) to
software looping (Ableton 8) to have a bit more control. I think I made the
right decision, just stereo is already a big benefit and to be able to run
multiple loopers at once makes it much more controlable while on stage.

But, it's getting better and better, but whatever I try it just doesn't seem
to work perfect. But I still get this latency issues. It just doesn't seem
to align. And also the first loop seems to drift from the main click.

I also updated my MacBook to the full 4GB or RAM and still I get these "out
of memory errors".

Anyone has the same experiences?

Cheers,

Reyn

www.reyn.net

www.reyn.vs.reyn.net


    



  

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 21:13:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E3D93BE85; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 409 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:13:14 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <1125D116-1094-4036-B16E-5887B9FEA360@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--530776271 From: Revfever Subject: OT: fluid piano Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:06:21 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:13:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--530776271 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed This is kool. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Cq3pbcMkI Cheers, Rev. Fever Portland,OR --Apple-Mail-2--530776271 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
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= --Apple-Mail-2--530776271-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 22:30:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03E5D3BE8A; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=EpgsWHQ6m8XJ1uTcAA9hDxBUsW5aCtSQ6wlnnEJq3wU=; b=Q/gsIxj99Cky08GHxAE46MoYiJ+5mw8MdOBkU5ja4G3Lv+AH5v2vesdzDOVCUyrs4g XVQP9Dwrp5Pnv1PHDPqOGwlC0aoGpeFxUOz2P3LWwopg9fCSgYNCFe4fWZcKf8pEUJdM yV5wl1wnH6EAKLU8lnDIq3eFLHQiJVUeNmEiw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hO1SkY2PE4Yt+MPYR+UIjX6T6uE19eIPXrlhCbWg87uVf2Pd5M++LVVYPxNDR6sbBj /ifCYxh7XKI9OsEQx30TTtDRGj5UalyMDz7+5DmNNQqnuo46NbStUhN6rEBgTObprmvn AmvVZk7dD+62e1DEFweXhbSiSrxy+MMUvf3pw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:30:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: OT: zen for beginners From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d58f7f4a44590479257d46 Resent-Message-ID: <2PefLB.A.V7F.H6FDLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:30:31 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d58f7f4a44590479257d46 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young person, an intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and adapted to the actual days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some watts, suzuki, but i'm not sure about them.. it's for a present. thanks. -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d58f7f4a44590479257d46 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young person, an= intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and adapted to the actual= days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some watts, suzuki, but i'm no= t sure about them.. it's for a present. thanks.

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--0016e6d58f7f4a44590479257d46-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 22:47:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EBA43BE8B; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:47:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:subject :date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:x-mimeole; bh=Xh1nACnOChKzRUewzCMElbCF6XnrkNWZwHL9Ce7DW7w=; b=xJTPB7V7n8OlOD1MQJHnG9IWyutdffHds0E8tdA5+/c/8KCHKuTrJUv8+ADuT9J0mv 9GphDTMOiP53U2MRtbmXrxN9He3tSj2f+oFJcZ32i//sYZlChvUbKErFpMVGO67aq+E3 xTqsNJrOVZeHZTnGLvUGh+skVRrRZTP1nHgpc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:x-mimeole; b=NUTlvEcFtQ8Anl0Q5OIzAu4fzdU17efoyYkDX75mPx35qovczfPXsDrxeaxofw7nGZ yMEQKiUsAfZTABzTwLgwjABnL12vOotNtqGIVh/yUrUk/kBu+k+48vIi/085+BgbeHwJ WzoiRO+ZHdS3ALtgFViid1Rb08OP3yyKqtiEg= Message-ID: <4b0c6299.170e660a.2998.ffffea38@mx.google.com> From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: WG: Ableton 8 Looping problems Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:47:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcptSRs1pEOLugfyS62WwNcbiGXm6wADZ0QAAABa2tA= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:47:55 +0000 (UTC) > What are most Windows folks using for the audio hardware these days, = and what should be typical good/expected latency times w/Ableton? Obviously I can't comment on statistics, only give you my own = experiences: For the desktop machine, my main interface is a RME multiface II (and = sometimes a digiface), interfaced via a HDSP PCIexpress card (the = digiface can also be connected to the laptop via a PCMCIA card for = 24-track session recordings in combination with micpres with adat = interface). RME is famed for good...well, almost everything, and I know = also several people here use a Fireface400, and they do now have = interfaces which connect to USB2 (which usually is less of a hassle for = windows laptop users). For the laptop setup, I use a TC Electronics Konnekt24D. While it's = famed for the best converters and micpres in its price class (and you = get great channel strip and reverb thrown in), the drivers/firewire = chipset is definitely sub-par, so if low latency at high system load is = a requirement, I cannot recommend these interfaces. I also have a Presonus Firebox (and there are some other users of this = here as well), which is excellent bang for the buck. Relatively simple = feature set, but imo great bang for the buck, and well-suited for live = applications with an analogue level control for the main outs = (unfortunately, I fried my out1/2 pair - here's some advice - NEVER = connect anything that's not made for this to a phantom-powered input). There's another one in my arsenal: the now discontinued Marian UCON CX = (which I got for something like =E2=82=AC125 off ebay at a sellout). = While this interface has a great feature set (4 micpres, 8 analogue ins = and outs and ADAT I/O in a half-rack space), and is one of the few great = USB2 interfaces, there's no more driver support for it - the only ones = available being (32-bit) XP drivers. However, I think somebody recoded = them for Linux, if that is of interest. It's rather a pity, because this interface gives you outstanding latency = via USB2 and is (as I believe) the only interface with four micpres in a = half-rack form factor. Summary: you usually won't go wrong with RME. If money is an issue, the = Firebox is also an interface I can recommend. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 22:56:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D84653BE8B; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:55:58 -0600 Subject: RE: Ableton 8 Looping problems Thread-Topic: Ableton 8 Looping problems Thread-Index: AcptSRUEfmYwURKuSmyyWugJd8V8SwAD4bYw Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2ABECB0B@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <588ce11d0911241223r6a9efaw98aa6b4ba7ec2264@mail.gmail.com> <4B0C4945.10301@asyouthink.com> In-Reply-To: <4B0C4945.10301@asyouthink.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2ABECB0Bbarqsailpoint_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:56:01 +0000 (UTC) --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2ABECB0Bbarqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There are a lot of choices for audio hardware depending on your preferences, but one thing is absolutely required: an ASIO device driver. You don't usually get an ASIO driver with built-in audio hardware which is probably why you had high latency. On a modern machine you should be able to run smoothly with a 128 sample block size. There will be one of these on both the input and output sides for a "round trip" latency of 256 samples or 5.805 milliseconds at a sample rate of 44.1K. The general belief is that latency below 10 milliseconds becomes very difficult to notice as long as it stays fixed. Even if you do notice, it is usually possible to adjust your playing style to compensate just like you do when you play with a monitor speaker more than 6 feet away. Accoustic players may be more sensitive to this. The actual ASIO block size you can use is dependent on many things: the speed of the CPU, the amount of memory, the applications you have running at the same time, the firewire chipset (if you use a firewire audio interface) the graphics card memory, etc. If the block size is too small the system won't be able to keep up with requests from the hardware and you will year "clicks". The important thing to understand is that latency isn't some fixed quality of Ableton or the audio hardware, it is something you tune to be as low as possible for your combination of hardware and software. It's sort of like finding the highest stable operating speed of a car. If you've got a machine less than 2 years old with carefully selected components and you've been careful about what software you have installed then a 128 block size is to be expected, and I've seen some go as low at 64. I've never heard of 32 under Windows or Mac. If you've got a 5 year old machine with under 1GB of memory and a lot of software installed then you might have problems getting that without a lot of tuning if you can get it at all. Jeff From: CM [mailto:listmail@asyouthink.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:00 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ableton 8 Looping problems I've been thinking about making this same shift myself (from Repeater + Abl= eton-as-non-recording-loop-player to Ableton-as-live-recording-looper). On= a standard laptop sound setup w/o special audio hardware (just as a test b= ed) the latency was too long for my taste. My old desktop rig has an old Ec= ho Gina card / break-out box, but is ancient hardware (PIII, believe it or = not); haven't tried it there yet. I'm planning on upgrading this machine th= ough. What are most Windows folks using for the audio hardware these days, and wh= at should be typical good/expected latency times w/Ableton? --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2ABECB0Bbarqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

There are a lot of choices for audio hardware depending on y= our

preferences, but one thing is absolutely required: an ASIO device

driver.  You don't usually get an ASIO driver with buil= t-in audio

hardware which is probably why you had high latency.

 

On a modern machine you should be able to run smoothly with = a 128

sample block size.  There will be one of these on both = the input and

output sides for a "round trip" latency of 256 sam= ples or 5.805

milliseconds at a sample rate of 44.1K.

 

The general belief is that latency below 10 milliseconds bec= omes very

difficult to notice as long as it stays fixed.  Even if= you do notice,

it is usually possible to adjust your playing style to compensate just

like you do when you play with a monitor speaker more than 6 feet

away.  Accoustic players may be more sensitive to this.=

 

The actual ASIO block size you can use is dependent on many things:

the speed of the CPU, the amount of memory, the applications= you have

running at the same time, the firewire chipset (if you use a firewire

audio interface) the graphics card memory, etc.  If the= block size is too

small the system won't be able to keep up with requests from= the

hardware and you will year "clicks".

 

The important thing to understand is that latency isn't some fixed

quality of Ableton or the audio hardware, it is something yo= u tune to

be as low as possible for your combination of hardware and software.

It's sort of like finding the highest stable operating speed= of a car. 

 

If you've got a machine less than 2 years old with carefully selected

components and you've been careful about what software you h= ave

installed then a 128 block size is to be expected, and I've<= o:p>

seen some go as low at 64.  I've never heard of 32 unde= r Windows

or Mac.

 

If you've got a 5 year old machine with under 1GB of memory = and a

lot of software installed then you might have problems getti= ng that

without a lot of tuning if you can get it at all.  &nbs= p; 

 

Jeff

 

From: CM [mailto:listmail@asyouthink.com= ]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:00 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Ableton 8 Looping problems

 

I've been thinking about making this same shift myself= (from Repeater + Ableton-as-non-recording-loop-player to Ableton-as-live-recordin= g-looper).  On a standard laptop sound setup w/o special audio hardware (just as a test bed) the latency was too long for my taste. My old desktop rig has an old E= cho Gina card / break-out box, but is ancient hardware (PIII, believe it or not= ); haven't tried it there yet. I'm planning on upgrading this machine though.<= br>
What are most Windows folks using for the audio hardware these days, and wh= at should be typical good/expected latency times w/Ableton?

 =
--_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2ABECB0Bbarqsailpoint_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 22:59:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D4AD3BE85; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:59:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:59:46 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: OT: zen for beginners Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:59:52 +0000 (UTC) At 11:30 PM +0100 11/24/09, Raul Bonell wrote: >guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young >person, an intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and >adapted to the actual days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some >watts, suzuki, but i'm not sure about them.. it's for a present. >thanks. How much does he know about Zen already? When I was 15, the book I kept going back to again and again was "The Zen Experience" by Thomas Hoover. It's more a history book -- charting Zen from its beginnings with the original sutras, Kumarijiva's concept of Void, and Bodhidharma's journey out of India to China. It explains the philosophical theories while describing the lives and beliefs of each of Zen's Patriarchs as the religion morphed from Indian Mahayana Buddhism, into the North and South schools of Chinese Ch'an, and finally the Rinzai and Soto Zen sects of Japan. So all the philosophy and foundational underpinnings are there, just explained in plain English without all the "Ooooeeeeooooeeeeooooo we're going to get all mystical and secretive on you" BS. When I was a teenager, I really appreciated the straightforward language and approach. If he's more advanced and already knows quite a bit about the theory, you might take a look through some of the books by Roshi Philip Kapleau. Also more straightforward than the "classics" (D.T. Suzuki, etc.) Or if you're looking just to throw him into the deep end, buy him a copy of "Zen Flesh, Zen Bones" and give it to him with no explanations. ;) --m. -- _____ "take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than one step..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 23:04:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13BA63BE80; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20091124161924.ge6hqu7o0csgo0g0@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:19:24 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Raul Bonell Subject: Re: OT: zen for beginners References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:04:26 +0000 (UTC) "There Is Nothing Wrong With You for Teens" by Cheri Huber.. Quoting Raul Bonell : > guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young person, an > intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and adapted to the actual > days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some watts, suzuki, but i'm not sure > about them.. it's for a present. thanks. > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 23:14:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0866A3BE8A; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:subject :date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:in-reply-to:x-mimeole; bh=DUSPf87WJEM6CYKGm14prsRDsYjIycPyVMk6jiaLsfg=; b=wPTRUSbLpEOY61rS75BKl+ysOXKUsa0Hn0tvKdfvJOf+SSf8Exha9e2a1PNqGKsJH9 FlVcGXpCR8fbd+nf4WxjWPlsR7pE1+/BsTiV0cT0UlROqdzxbNEYOWJ80XbBrofz8PU+ kDTILWXiuoS1RL2MoQWCalZl9Puc8MZS1JsyM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:in-reply-to :x-mimeole; b=FTQpDXAYrxJ/VWErMHrKqjjI9LvMwGy4I3DgntNJbYTkXlX8ElqZ4b2LEtWeo/BiFu Y2cqu1mUVvzYMOm6aSL9v9a56E6yozt0499+56Cnjvep4vD/WVu6follzo/w8TN6BIn8 yyhjaiLjR0uG25WR42P9wwx5RDnQ+bkNhriYI= Message-ID: <4b0c68d2.0af5660a.7c87.ffffbc74@mx.google.com> From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Ableton 8 Looping problems Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:14:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcptSRUEfmYwURKuSmyyWugJd8V8SwAD4bYwAACR6+A= In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2ABECB0B@barq.sailpoint.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Jeff said: > The actual ASIO block size you can use is dependent on many things: > the speed of the CPU, the amount of memory, the applications you have > running at the same time, the firewire chipset (if you use a firewire > audio interface) the graphics card memory, etc. If the block size is too > small the system won't be able to keep up with requests from the > hardware and you will year "clicks". Let's not forget the audio interface, its interface technology and its drivers here. The combination can make all the difference here, and it's also something you can choose rather freely (other than, say, the firewire chipset of a laptop). > If you've got a 5 year old machine with under 1GB of memory and a > lot of software installed then you might have problems getting that > without a lot of tuning if you can get it at all. The tuning is in fact an important factor here. There's lots of websites which describe how to tune your OS so it runs best for audio applications. For my main machine, I actually use two independent OS installations, one for music and one for all the other stuff. Another item worth mentioning that hasn't come up is the so-called DPC latency. This is a property of the computer hardware and lowlevel software (read: BIOS). Especially for laptops, this value is sometimes over the roof, but can be possibly brought down e.g. by disabling wireless network hardware etc. Here's a tool to check this: http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 23:14:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D84853BE97; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:14:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2334 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:14:37 UTC Message-id: <8FE45020-0C21-44D8-900F-C4CB7791F174@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: zen for beginners Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:14:27 -0600 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:14:37 +0000 (UTC) > How much does he know about Zen already? > > When I was 15, the book I kept going back to again and again was > "The Zen Experience" by Thomas Hoover. It's more a history book -- > charting Zen from its beginnings with the original sutras, > Kumarijiva's concept of Void, and Bodhidharma's journey out of India > to China. It explains the philosophical theories while describing > the lives and beliefs of each of Zen's Patriarchs as the religion > morphed from Indian Mahayana Buddhism, into the North and South > schools of Chinese Ch'an, and finally the Rinzai and Soto Zen sects > of Japan. > If it's history your friend is interested in, you're going to want to buy something much more recent than Hoover, for one thing. More importantly, you'll want to buy a book with some scholarly merit. Look at books by John McRae ("Seeing Through Zen") or Bernard Faure, for instance--both Chan/Zen scholars at the top of their field. My .02 Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 23:19:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D4A13BEB2; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:19:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: Re: OT: zen for beginners From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <8FE45020-0C21-44D8-900F-C4CB7791F174@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:19:07 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <32118E32-FF9F-4B4D-B1C0-81BFC93C0587@grubmah.com> References: <8FE45020-0C21-44D8-900F-C4CB7791F174@verizon.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:19:01 +0000 (UTC) Perhaps too young, but perhaps right in a Zen sort of way: Zen Shorts by = Jon J Muth From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 23:23:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85C553BECF; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:23:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ddIciu1IjtyTgpZmvDOPD/1SlAZbM5iKkLcxdmf/R5I=; b=JlOJc91gUZS5iBZjIBJvtWm6KjGaowRODNHQMtNCkn57BExDqSR/gCQ/SUDv36fszg rfnMyw1e6w/iBzMhCgW0lW3O0ZVQ2E68lJXdXOe1AuomYOB5PYBHvj0K900kUD4ezbbU rBdmD18fHOhnJrDWJiKv6DJscqJiaJXAg1R9s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=F9Xwt3hTGuJVwfXFjGTCW29f0XhVf6zvf0XIgvX1E9n0D/jbOsGnxeR8ysc8uDe0tN ffyDZXZP2qSdFLRckTEAJfHG1Nr4GrTSGvKNtevHssM9jYRYNYZyYW++2rVG9BAXFhdQ qLffnGgBvI/DSHpTWU34+ufr0RatCocqiZTHQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8FE45020-0C21-44D8-900F-C4CB7791F174@verizon.net> References: <8FE45020-0C21-44D8-900F-C4CB7791F174@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:23:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: zen for beginners From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99f38181aee0479263c4a Resent-Message-ID: <0G_HOB.A.dUB.IsGDLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:23:52 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d99f38181aee0479263c4a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks for your quick responses. i have to take a look at these and then try to find which of them is translated into spanish. sorry i did forget to mention this before. is there something loopers-delight is not good for? you rock! 2009/11/25 Jeff Shirkey > > How much does he know about Zen already? >> >> When I was 15, the book I kept going back to again and again was "The Zen >> Experience" by Thomas Hoover. It's more a history book -- charting Zen from >> its beginnings with the original sutras, Kumarijiva's concept of Void, and >> Bodhidharma's journey out of India to China. It explains the philosophical >> theories while describing the lives and beliefs of each of Zen's Patriarchs >> as the religion morphed from Indian Mahayana Buddhism, into the North and >> South schools of Chinese Ch'an, and finally the Rinzai and Soto Zen sects of >> Japan. >> >> > If it's history your friend is interested in, you're going to want to buy > something much more recent than Hoover, for one thing. More importantly, > you'll want to buy a book with some scholarly merit. Look at books by John > McRae ("Seeing Through Zen") or Bernard Faure, for instance--both Chan/Zen > scholars at the top of their field. > > My .02 > > Jeff > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d99f38181aee0479263c4a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks for your quick responses. i have to take a look at these and then tr= y to find which of them is translated into spanish. sorry i did forget to m= ention this before.

is there something loopers-delight is not good f= or?
you rock!


2009/11/25 Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@verizon= .net>

How much does he know about Zen already?

When I was 15, the book I kept going back to again and again was "The = Zen Experience" by Thomas Hoover. =A0It's more a history book -- c= harting Zen from its beginnings with the original sutras, Kumarijiva's = concept of Void, and Bodhidharma's journey out of India to China. =A0It= explains the philosophical theories while describing the lives and beliefs= of each of Zen's Patriarchs as the religion morphed from Indian Mahaya= na Buddhism, into the North and South schools of Chinese Ch'an, and fin= ally the Rinzai and Soto Zen sects of Japan.


If it's history your friend is interested in, you're going to want = to buy something much more recent than Hoover, for one thing. More importan= tly, you'll want to buy a book with some scholarly merit. Look at books= by John McRae ("Seeing Through Zen") or Bernard Faure, for insta= nce--both Chan/Zen scholars at the top of their field.

My .02

Jeff




--
Raul Bonell at B= logger: http://raulbonell.blogsp= ot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

--0016e6d99f38181aee0479263c4a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 23:31:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0240C3BEC2; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:31:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <23CE972F-4493-4F25-B745-7AD17C78A2FC@ubergadget.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Revfever Subject: Re: OT: zen for beginners / Jodo Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:31:47 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:31:49 +0000 (UTC) On Nov 24, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Mech wrote: > Or if you're looking just to throw him into the deep end, buy him a > copy of "Zen Flesh, Zen Bones" and give it to him with no > explanations. ;) Great book. Read it years ago. Definitely had a good effect on me. Obscure Trivia Dept.- The 1970 film "El Topo" by Alejandro Jodorowsky had much to do with, or least somewhat to do with "Zen Flesh, Zen Bones". But, I am not so sure that tossing that film at a youngster would be all that advisable? Or hey...maybe it would? No one ever said that Life was always supposed to be "pretty"...even a Life of "enlightenment". Zen makes a good point of this reality. But, I guess it would depend on their age, or level of sensitivity, or whatever other personal factors? (Or...?) However, the film is certainly not for everyone, but I have always found it to be incredible. http://www.subcin.com/jod01.html http://www.subcin.com/jod02.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Topo And, for an even bigger mind blower that is a "quest for spiritual Truth" etc, then by all means see Jodo's 1973 film "Holy Mountain". My absolutely top favorite film of all time! I think even a teenster could maybe handle this one, but a mind (young or old) could also possibly be "transformed" a bit by this particular film experience. :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Mountain_%281973_film%29 Cheers, Rev. Fever Portland,OR From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 23:35:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 856F93BEE1; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:35:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: zen for beginners Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:35:34 -0600 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:35:43 +0000 (UTC) On Nov 24, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young > person, an intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and > adapted to the actual days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some > watts, suzuki, but i'm not sure about them.. it's for a present. > thanks. It depends on what you want. Do you want a beginning Zen user's manual (so to speak)? Or do you want a reliable, historical introduction to Zen (or Buddhism generally speaking)--as opposed to all the crap that's out there? Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 24 23:52:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 462163BEFF; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:52:04 UTC User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:45:23 -0800 Subject: Re: OT: zen for beginners From: Qua Veda To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: OT: zen for beginners Thread-Index: AcptYDBpN+73zd8tmUmgXqyxu5PfRg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3341922323_2578275" X-MagicMail-UUID: 6f3e7fde-d953-11de-bd0b-001517857ac1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:52:05 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3341922323_2578275 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable How about the Tao Te Ching? I believe those are essentially Zen principles, in a very consumable , short book. -Qua On 11/24/09 3:23 PM, "Raul Bonell" wrote: > thanks for your quick responses. i have to take a look at these and then = try > to find which of them is translated into spanish. sorry i did forget to > mention this before. >=20 > is there something loopers-delight is not good for? > you rock! >=20 >=20 > 2009/11/25 Jeff Shirkey >>=20 >>> How much does he know about Zen already? >>>=20 >>> When I was 15, the book I kept going back to again and again was "The Z= en >>> Experience" by Thomas Hoover. =A0It's more a history book -- charting Zen= from >>> its beginnings with the original sutras, Kumarijiva's concept of Void, = and >>> Bodhidharma's journey out of India to China. =A0It explains the philosoph= ical >>> theories while describing the lives and beliefs of each of Zen's Patria= rchs >>> as the religion morphed from Indian Mahayana Buddhism, into the North a= nd >>> South schools of Chinese Ch'an, and finally the Rinzai and Soto Zen sec= ts of >>> Japan. >>>=20 >>=20 >> If it's history your friend is interested in, you're going to want to bu= y >> something much more recent than Hoover, for one thing. More importantly, >> you'll want to buy a book with some scholarly merit. Look at books by Jo= hn >> McRae ("Seeing Through Zen") or Bernard Faure, for instance--both Chan/Z= en >> scholars at the top of their field. >>=20 >> My .02 >>=20 >> Jeff >>=20 >=20 >=20 -Qua --B_3341922323_2578275 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: OT: zen for beginners How about the Tao Te Ching?     I believe those are es= sentially Zen principles, in a very consumable , short book.
-Qua


On 11/24/09 3:23 PM, "Raul Bonell" <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:

<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>thanks for your quick responses. i have to take = a look at these and then try to find which of them is translated into spanis= h. sorry i did forget to mention this before.

is there something loopers-delight is not good for?
you rock!


2009/11/25 Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@verizon= .net>
<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>
<= SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:11pt'>How much does he know about Zen already?

When I was 15, the book I kept going back to again and again was "The = Zen Experience" by Thomas Hoover. =A0It's more a history book -- charting= Zen from its beginnings with the original sutras, Kumarijiva's concept of V= oid, and Bodhidharma's journey out of India to China. =A0It explains the philo= sophical theories while describing the lives and beliefs of each of Zen's Pa= triarchs as the religion morphed from Indian Mahayana Buddhism, into the Nor= th and South schools of Chinese Ch'an, and finally the Rinzai and Soto Zen s= ects of Japan.

=
If it's history your friend is interested in, you're going to want to buy s= omething much more recent than Hoover, for one thing. More importantly, you'= ll want to buy a book with some scholarly merit. Look at books by John McRae= ("Seeing Through Zen") or Bernard Faure, for instance--both Chan/= Zen scholars at the top of their field.

My .02

Jeff



=
-Qua

--B_3341922323_2578275-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 00:05:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36AD83BE95; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:05:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 910 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:05:18 UTC Message-Id: <735D862A-E682-499F-B3D6-F88A96024CFF@reyn.net> From: Reyn Ouwehand To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2ABECB0B@barq.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--520952822 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Ableton 8 Looping problems Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:50:04 +0100 References: <588ce11d0911241223r6a9efaw98aa6b4ba7ec2264@mail.gmail.com> <4B0C4945.10301@asyouthink.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2ABECB0B@barq.sailpoint.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1ND593-00027E-BG X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.467, vereist 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, TVD_RCVD_IP 1.93) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: reyn@reyn.net X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:05:19 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--520952822 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On that topic I'm using a Mackie 1620 Onyx mixer as my 'soundcard'. But that mixer "should" have very low latency. I do rather use a pretty long Firewire cable, but that should be fine right? I'll try the MIDI delay idea. That sounds like a solid solution.. Thanks. Cheers, Reyn www.reyn.net On Nov 24, 2009, at 11:55 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > There are a lot of choices for audio hardware depending on your > preferences, but one thing is absolutely required: an ASIO device > driver. You don't usually get an ASIO driver with built-in audio > hardware which is probably why you had high latency. > > On a modern machine you should be able to run smoothly with a 128 > sample block size. There will be one of these on both the input and > output sides for a "round trip" latency of 256 samples or 5.805 > milliseconds at a sample rate of 44.1K. > > The general belief is that latency below 10 milliseconds becomes very > difficult to notice as long as it stays fixed. Even if you do notice, > it is usually possible to adjust your playing style to compensate just > like you do when you play with a monitor speaker more than 6 feet > away. Accoustic players may be more sensitive to this. > > The actual ASIO block size you can use is dependent on many things: > the speed of the CPU, the amount of memory, the applications you have > running at the same time, the firewire chipset (if you use a firewire > audio interface) the graphics card memory, etc. If the block size > is too > small the system won't be able to keep up with requests from the > hardware and you will year "clicks". > > The important thing to understand is that latency isn't some fixed > quality of Ableton or the audio hardware, it is something you tune to > be as low as possible for your combination of hardware and software. > It's sort of like finding the highest stable operating speed of a car. > > If you've got a machine less than 2 years old with carefully selected > components and you've been careful about what software you have > installed then a 128 block size is to be expected, and I've > seen some go as low at 64. I've never heard of 32 under Windows > or Mac. > > If you've got a 5 year old machine with under 1GB of memory and a > lot of software installed then you might have problems getting that > without a lot of tuning if you can get it at all. > > Jeff > > From: CM [mailto:listmail@asyouthink.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:00 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Ableton 8 Looping problems > > I've been thinking about making this same shift myself (from > Repeater + Ableton-as-non-recording-loop-player to Ableton-as-live- > recording-looper). On a standard laptop sound setup w/o special > audio hardware (just as a test bed) the latency was too long for my > taste. My old desktop rig has an old Echo Gina card / break-out box, > but is ancient hardware (PIII, believe it or not); haven't tried it > there yet. I'm planning on upgrading this machine though. > > What are most Windows folks using for the audio hardware these days, > and what should be typical good/expected latency times w/Ableton? > > --Apple-Mail-1--520952822 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On that topic I'm using a = Mackie 1620 Onyx mixer as my 'soundcard'. But that mixer "should" have = very low latency. I do rather use a pretty long Firewire cable, but that = should be fine right? 

I'll try the MIDI = delay idea. That sounds like a solid solution.. = Thanks.

Cheers,

Reyn


On Nov = 24, 2009, at 11:55 PM, Jeff Larson wrote:

There are a lot of choices for audio hardware = depending on your
preferences, but one thing is absolutely required: = an ASIO device
driver.  You don't usually get an ASIO driver = with built-in audio
hardware which is probably why you had high = latency.
 
On a modern machine you = should be able to run smoothly with a 128
sample block size.  = There will be one of these on both the input = and
output sides for a "round trip" latency of 256 = samples or 5.805
milliseconds at a sample rate of = 44.1K.
 
The general belief is = that latency below 10 milliseconds becomes = very
difficult to notice as long as it stays fixed.  = Even if you do notice,
it is usually possible to adjust your playing = style to compensate just
like you do when you play with a monitor = speaker more than 6 feet
away.  Accoustic players may be more = sensitive to this.
 
The actual ASIO block = size you can use is dependent on many = things:
the speed of the CPU, the amount of memory, the = applications you have
running at the same time, the firewire = chipset (if you use a firewire
audio interface) the = graphics card memory, etc.  If the block size is = too
small the system won't be able to keep up with = requests from the
hardware and you will year = "clicks".
 
The important thing to = understand is that latency isn't some fixed
quality of Ableton or = the audio hardware, it is something you tune = to
be as low as possible for your combination of = hardware and software.
It's sort of like finding the highest stable = operating speed of a car. 
If you've got a machine less than 2 years old with = carefully selected
components and you've been careful about what = software you have
installed then a 128 block size is to be expected, = and I've
seen some go as low at 64.  I've never heard of = 32 under Windows
or Mac.
If you've got a 5 year old machine with under 1GB of = memory and a
lot of software installed then you might have = problems getting that
without a lot of tuning if you can get it at = all.    
 
 
From: CM [mailto:listmail@asyouthink.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 = 3:00 PM
To:  
Re: Ableton 8 Looping = problems
I've been = thinking about making this same shift myself (from Repeater + = Ableton-as-non-recording-loop-player to = Ableton-as-live-recording-looper).  On a standard laptop sound = setup w/o special audio hardware (just as a test bed) the latency was = too long for my taste. My old desktop rig has an old Echo Gina card / = break-out box, but is ancient hardware (PIII, believe it or not); = haven't tried it there yet. I'm planning on upgrading this machine = though.

What are most Windows folks using for the audio hardware = these days, and what should be typical good/expected latency times = w/Ableton?

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mech advised:

*Or if you're looking just to throw him into the deep end, buy him a
copy of "Zen Flesh, Zen Bones" and give it to him with no
explanations.  ;)


*I concur with mech's advice, with the exception that I became 
interested in Zen originally
because of stumbling on the book 'Zen Flesh, Zen Bones' so it was my 
introduction
to that world.    I wouldn't consider it the deep end at all if you have
 him read the section called *101 Zen Stories* first in that book.

It is really entertaining and after reading a bunch of these little one
and two page parables, you start to really get what Zen is about.

It is not really intellectual or challenging................some really 
good points are made that
are thought provoking.    I still quote from some of these stories to my
students 40 years after having read it for the first time.

I especially love the story of the young and old zen monk who help the 
beautiful woman cross the stream.
I even have a Japanese print on my bathroom door that illustrates the 
old monk carrying her across the stream in the illustrative
story about the nature and power of desire.
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tao te king... i was thinking of this too.
it's an interesting subject for lots of you, as i see.

it's hard to describe this with my limited english, but anyway...

the book is for a student which is asking himself "what comes next". it's a
very good student, but with the actual state of things and the new european
laws coming on 2012, Bologna, it looks they are feeling the pressure the
political system is exerting on them. the idea behind is that of the even
more strict specialization. which, i hope you're agree here, is pure shit.

it pisses me off that even the more skilled ones face the matter by reducing
the problem to what's going to be "really important", and thus, what's going
to be economically rewarding. what a loss of talented minds.

since this is the last year they'll stay before jumping to the university,
and knowing my limitations, i had the idea of passing the flame with some
"long run" book. at least, for those who seem inhabited by old souls, so to
say.

thanks friends!

2009/11/25 Qua Veda 

>  How about the Tao Te Ching?     I believe those are essentially Zen
> principles, in a very consumable , short book.
> -Qua
>
>
>
> On 11/24/09 3:23 PM, "Raul Bonell"  wrote:
>
> thanks for your quick responses. i have to take a look at these and then
> try to find which of them is translated into spanish. sorry i did forget to
> mention this before.
>
> is there something loopers-delight is not good for?
> you rock!
>
>
> 2009/11/25 Jeff Shirkey 
>
>
> How much does he know about Zen already?
>
> When I was 15, the book I kept going back to again and again was "The Zen
> Experience" by Thomas Hoover.  It's more a history book -- charting Zen from
> its beginnings with the original sutras, Kumarijiva's concept of Void, and
> Bodhidharma's journey out of India to China.  It explains the philosophical
> theories while describing the lives and beliefs of each of Zen's Patriarchs
> as the religion morphed from Indian Mahayana Buddhism, into the North and
> South schools of Chinese Ch'an, and finally the Rinzai and Soto Zen sects of
> Japan.
>
>
> If it's history your friend is interested in, you're going to want to buy
> something much more recent than Hoover, for one thing. More importantly,
> you'll want to buy a book with some scholarly merit. Look at books by John
> McRae ("Seeing Through Zen") or Bernard Faure, for instance--both Chan/Zen
> scholars at the top of their field.
>
> My .02
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
> -Qua
>
>


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tao te king... i was thinking of this too. 
it's an interesting subj= ect for lots of you, as i see.

it's hard to describe this with = my limited english, but anyway...

the book is for a student which i= s asking himself "what comes next". it's a very good student,= but with the actual state of things and the new european laws coming on 20= 12, Bologna, it looks they are feeling the pressure the political system is= exerting on them. the idea behind is that of the even more strict speciali= zation. which, i hope you're agree here, is pure shit.

it pisses me off that even the more skilled ones face the matter by red= ucing the problem to what's going to be "really important", a= nd thus, what's going to be economically rewarding. what a loss of tale= nted minds.

since this is the last year they'll stay before jumping to the univ= ersity, and knowing my limitations, i had the idea of passing the flame wit= h some "long run" book. at least, for those who seem inhabited by= old souls, so to say.

thanks friends!

2009/11/25 Qua Veda <= span dir=3D"ltr"><qu= a@oregon.com>
How about the Tao Te Ching? =A0=A0=A0=A0I believe those are essenti= ally Zen principles, in a very consumable , short book.
-Qua



On 11/24/09 3:23 PM, "Raul Bonell" <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:

thanks f= or your quick responses. i have to take a look at these and then try to fin= d which of them is translated into spanish. sorry i did forget to mention t= his before.

is there something loopers-delight is not good for?
you rock!


2009/11/25 Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@verizon.net>

How much does he know about Zen already?<= br>
When I was 15, the book I kept going back to again and again was "The = Zen Experience" by Thomas Hoover. =A0It's more a history book -- c= harting Zen from its beginnings with the original sutras, Kumarijiva's = concept of Void, and Bodhidharma's journey out of India to China. =A0It= explains the philosophical theories while describing the lives and beliefs= of each of Zen's Patriarchs as the religion morphed from Indian Mahaya= na Buddhism, into the North and South schools of Chinese Ch'an, and fin= ally the Rinzai and Soto Zen sects of Japan.


If it's history your friend is interested in, you're going to want = to buy something much more recent than Hoover, for one thing. More importan= tly, you'll want to buy a book with some scholarly merit. Look at books= by John McRae ("Seeing Through Zen") or Bernard Faure, for insta= nce--both Chan/Zen scholars at the top of their field.

My .02

Jeff




-Qua




--
Raul Bonell at Blogger:= http://raulbo= nell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

--0016e6d7e6a33579780479278ee4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 01:14:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC6893BEC0; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:14:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.20.0.090605 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:14:21 -0800 Subject: Re: OT zen for beginners From: Qua Veda To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: OT zen for beginners Thread-Index: AcptbJ4b9g2xb76TnUmKxc73kol9Ig== In-Reply-To: <4B0C78B5.8000801@cruzio.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MagicMail-UUID: dd067cf4-d95f-11de-bc4f-0015176fabf8 Resent-Message-ID: <2rb1UB.A.SdH.vTIDLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:14:23 +0000 (UTC) BTW, all 101 stories are available online at http://www.101zenstories.com/ -Qua On 11/24/09 4:22 PM, "Rick Walker" wrote: > mech advised: > > *Or if you're looking just to throw him into the deep end, buy him a > copy of "Zen Flesh, Zen Bones" and give it to him with no > explanations. ;) > > > *I concur with mech's advice, with the exception that I became > interested in Zen originally > because of stumbling on the book 'Zen Flesh, Zen Bones' so it was my > introduction > to that world. I wouldn't consider it the deep end at all if you have > him read the section called *101 Zen Stories* first in that book. > > It is really entertaining and after reading a bunch of these little one > and two page parables, you start to really get what Zen is about. clip From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 01:19:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7793D3BEB2; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:19:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3604 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:19:48 UTC Message-id: <4F9C160A-25B0-4218-BD96-2D7D38FC8593@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-990--519201607 MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: zen for beginners Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:19:16 -0600 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:19:48 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-990--519201607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Nov 24, 2009, at 5:45 PM, Qua Veda wrote: > How about the Tao Te Ching? I believe those are essentially Zen > principles, in a very consumable , short book. To say that the Daodejing is a Zen book, is a big, big stretch. I suppose you could argue that some of its principles may be Zen-like (anachronistically). But that begs the question(s): 1) What in the world is the Daodejing saying--which is by no means clear, and it is probably saying several different things at once. And, 2) What are "Zen principles" anyway? Problem #3: Most translations of the DDJ are utter crap. Choose wisely. Check the press. Check the credentials of the translator. Jeff --Apple-Mail-990--519201607 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Nov 24, 2009, = at 5:45 PM, Qua Veda wrote:

= How about the Tao Te Ching? =     I believe those are essentially Zen principles, = in a very consumable , short book. =

To say that the = Daodejing is a Zen book, is a big, big stretch. I suppose you could = argue that some of its principles may be Zen-like (anachronistically). = But that begs the question(s): 1) What in the world is the Daodejing = saying--which is by no means clear, and it is probably saying several = different things at once. And, 2) What are "Zen principles" = anyway?

Problem #3: Most translations of the = DDJ are utter crap. Choose wisely. Check the press. Check the = credentials of the = translator.

Jeff
= --Apple-Mail-990--519201607-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 01:32:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BF6A3BEA9; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=x/qKiLtsNQnyGqlSDO8ti5i97/EZUEO3TrbMmuDjCUw=; b=vqk/RAxQ/1qlaCfRZCFdl0IpuQvKXIisLMB3CzBZamryzBBXNIB9EmIdMhDuWF4J+l rgP/FjtP5KlcbuSdYnGBRyaRgQMxA5otaE3ej6tF4GWs68BUGE4zvzuhDyl47GAnoN48 jJbx7yKN47EyXFdUIcw277KuHiiLwN65Y4sd4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=nVZVKoc6Ogig8tIGjsVAWLUd6TTj0aMvb0BLuAzrH4I1CU6extMC1iT7DiT3a3hdG0 9KFB/bCzhn3ZazMh5aaJUVI/GCFGR6FX1bmw02nIbaB6A2el2nJBYTe1JrS3Jj0ituph NTvhMxlIvCoUgmSKXtnUNsBo65kSw4X7SpGIA= Message-Id: <7AE3B1A1-7EB5-47EA-A5CE-945849CF5A50@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--514787937 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: zen for beginners Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:32:49 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:32:58 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--514787937 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Nov 24, 2009, at 2:30 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young person, > an intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and adapted to > the actual days? I would go with Alan Watt's -- give both The Book and The Way of Zen as a combo perhaps. Classics, especially for their humor and enthusiasm. Likely available in Spanish. More scholarly but still readable is the short monograph What is Zen? by R.H. Blyth which is actually volume 1 of his Zen & Zen Classics. Not sure about availability of that in Spanish. regards BobC http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier5 http://www.youtube.com/user/tynego --Apple-Mail-1--514787937 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Nov 24, 2009, = at 2:30 PM, Raul Bonell wrote:

may you point me to some good = starter Zen book for a young person, an intelligent teenager near 18? = easy to understand and adapted to the actual = days?


I would go with =  Alan Watt's -- give both The Book and The Way of Zen as a = combo perhaps. Classics, especially for their humor and enthusiasm. =  Likely available in Spanish.

More = scholarly but still readable is the short monograph What is Zen? by R.H. = Blyth which is actually volume 1 of his  Zen & Zen Classics. = Not sure about availability of that in = Spanish.

regards

BobC


= --Apple-Mail-1--514787937-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 01:35:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 104FE3BED6; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:35:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <34F960292CAB421B81B1FF9745C90112@ELUK1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: OT zen for beginners Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:35:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:35:15 +0000 (UTC) Tao Te Ching. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 02:10:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E2F73BEE8; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:10:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=ww+gREPmtL5wiSdCF7oAtD0fS2/URvstizYPBY2oa4Y=; b=x9YqqLu0h+ai3TxZPgeUC0V2MiBoh8CnjJY9Cerqciv/byA1GKOXSLx6Q5y6HCXNLf Euo16TA1SRc2xMCn3LqVeOUNTTX/X652/fEiLzFNTg3A1te4s6K5KFAZmLRoZqSnmYJx py/5kmM19wtlv/ntBTgsIuqg1iuu39BvrBbDk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=MMxY4BDQhaDV58bO8/LOwVoGZJabpFc89gn1g4uu5sTpD6HkFL+HcQPP1LgaceYfjk bS2hVGALPNl6uea2+d8nBSdcMdY4xyZdb3pbtr8v267CCrR2J36zzoUu4i1Mwv1BcjJ6 Yqa+Oa1sLS4npUjqI5W4rBkh+RxGw/8D0OEzA= From: "Tony K" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: zen for beginners Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:09:58 -0500 Message-ID: <000301ca6d74$64123830$2c36a890$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01CA6D4A.7B3C3030" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcptVb1bSrKNPF4ISfGTLZNl5utfmQAHocLw Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:10:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01CA6D4A.7B3C3030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I read Zen and the Art of Archery when I was around that age. Quite good. Tony From: Raul Bonell [mailto:raul.bonell@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 5:30 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: zen for beginners guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young person, an intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and adapted to the actual days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some watts, suzuki, but i'm not sure about them.. it's for a present. thanks. -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01CA6D4A.7B3C3030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I read Zen and the Art of Archery when I was around that = age.  Quite good. 

 

Tony

 

From:= Raul = Bonell [mailto:raul.bonell@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 5:30 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT: zen for beginners

 

guys! may you point = me to some good starter Zen book for a young person, an intelligent teenager near = 18? easy to understand and adapted to the actual days? maybe some tich naht hanh? = i have some watts, suzuki, but i'm not sure about them.. it's for a present. = thanks.

--
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http://www.ct-collective.com

------=_NextPart_000_0004_01CA6D4A.7B3C3030-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 02:42:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9410F3BE8C; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:42:59 UTC Message-id: <0C599108-18E0-4161-9956-3F2EBDB75C96@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <34F960292CAB421B81B1FF9745C90112@ELUK1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT zen for beginners X-Priority: 3 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:42:41 -0600 References: <34F960292CAB421B81B1FF9745C90112@ELUK1> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:42:59 +0000 (UTC) On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:35 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Tao Te Ching. Has nothing to do with Zen. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 03:07:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A0A33BE8D; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:07:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cAVtiPKMf3VSpi/BFJYvyyz3OZ84mUh5fxqNuPSHTzc=; b=fILecfNnenePSFPt0wwj8z3w34GYDjSf8gZq3+tDLlULsmmBxBr+wIuQjBdjZxJrSt JIN+uxGLWAc9txRIHxX1LYS4Kjjca1EeelEdOgkba+wraC5Chr6Q1YhqNE2xEmwXC7ns V1kZWk6xawsb6cFDNCzczKuknc7qsBbipJsIY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QIjYBE1Dv5X4nRzYgzXBarHtSW2dJ5G2I8S07RjgEzDh9UrK5JR+9mvGnTXZbbH26f egRSuG/Pcml0qgC2v3/7ejeGJEI1J+WxB0DEL1SIS1uK5ljRZV+rd7Gall0i9ZoEEDy9 utYB6xUJLHRnntVOsaDSHVIcyxlaLioFBqkAs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0911190657j7e7e159do1cd25098d379090e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:07:02 -0800 Message-ID: <6b0f74300911241907n4c2e3a53w3916a64b801315f2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out on the road From: S V G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:07:04 +0000 (UTC) I've been using the Emu XL-7 and MP-7 for the past 10 years or so. They are the upgraded Proteus 2000 modules, exactly the same as the Proteus 2500, just a different box. I'd recommend getting one of these puppies if you want to go the Emu Rompler route. They give you a lot more knobs for tweaking, which of course makes editing closer to enjoyable. Likewise, tweaking live can be more reliable and adjustable than the 2000 series. My XL-7 is stuffed to the gils with 4 ROM cards (and being used all the time), while the MP-7 is currently sitting unused with its MoPhatt card. I'd let it go for cheap if anyone was interested... Stephen On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Rainer Straschill > wrote: >> Some synths tend to sound dated after a while. Good ones don't. Of >> course, to keep the things from sounding dated may require you to >> actually invest the time and brains to get into programming some >> sounds yourself. E-mu's Proteus series modules (especially the later >> ones) offer great possibilities for that. > > The early Emu models like the Procussion and the Proteus 1 sound a > little flat IMO, but with fx, Eq and compression, they came to live in > a mix. Also, the avg quality of rom samples is better now than in the > late 80's and 90's so that another reason...if you are looking for > real instruments sounds like piano, trumpets. Especially piano's are a > good example of how technology has improved. > > Anyway, that's what I mean with "dated", not saying that every synth > has to sound like the real deal which was clearly THE trend in the > 80's and 90's. Once the VA's and analog synths were becoming popular > in the mid 90's, the "best rompler synth" race was more or less > over...but that's another story :) > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 04:31:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B43F3BE84; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:31:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <000301ca6d74$64123830$2c36a890$@com> References: <000301ca6d74$64123830$2c36a890$@com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--504099836 Message-Id: <39CD6FC3-960D-4F38-9362-9E395059DC3C@ubergadget.com> From: Revfever Subject: Re: zen for beginners Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:30:57 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <1BY00D.A.sTB.EMLDLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:31:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--504099836 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Nov 24, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Tony K wrote: > I read Zen and the Art of Archery when I was around that age. > Quite good. And, there are also the classic "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" and the later "follow up" book "Zen and the Art of Volkswagen Maintenance". I read "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" years ago and thought it was great. However, it is not "officially" a "Zen" book, but still great reading, nonetheless. I never read "Zen and the Art of Volkswagen Maintenance" and there is also another book with a very similar title called "Prayer and the Art of Volkswagen Maintenance" which I would not personally be drawn to reading, especially after reading a synopsis of it. But, that's just me. :-) Best wishes, Rev. Fever Portland,OR > --Apple-Mail-1--504099836 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
On Nov 24, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Tony K wrote:

I read Zen and the Art of Archery = when I was around that age.  Quite = good. 

And, = there are also the classic "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" = and the later "follow up" book "Zen and the Art of Volkswagen = Maintenance".
I read "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle = Maintenance" years ago and thought it was great. However, it is not = "officially" a "Zen"  book, but still great reading, = nonetheless.
I never read "Zen and the Art of Volkswagen = Maintenance" and there is also another book with a very similar title = called "Prayer and the Art of Volkswagen = Maintenance"
which I would not personally be drawn to reading, = especially after reading a synopsis of it. But, that's just me. = :-)

Best wishes,
Rev. = Fever
Portland,OR

> To: > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:49 PM > Subject: AW: Taking VSTs out on the road > > >> so whats would you be looking at now if you had a budget of =A3400 - $60= 0 go > > ebaying for old stuff or look at something like the korg microsampler? > > So that's a budget of $600-$660 ;)? I will now assume you meant to type > $400-$600... > >> i cant get my head around the specs, i live in a world where my nintendo > > DS has a 16 GB micro SD card in it , yet many of the samplers im looking = at >> >> surely someone in the tech world is still making this kind of stuff? > > Let's face it: the high-quality hardware sampler has (almost) vanished fr= om > the market. People who had been using something like an Akai S series, E-= Mu > Emulator or similar in a studio setting in the past use a computer today. > Example: NI Kontakt 4. People who used one onstage use a synth workstatio= n > where you can load samples (those devices don't have a sampling option, > because - yes, you guessed right - people use a computer for this). Examp= le: > Roland Fantom XR. > The only hardware samplers (being things that not only can playback but a= lso > record samples) seem to be aimed at the more beat-oriented/DJ crowd - apa= rt > frm things like a Roland SP-555, there' still the Akai MPC series. > >> the irony is, i think i know the answer and its.....yup.on a laptop!!!! > > Here, you said it yourself... > > Ah, and if that weren't enough, storing and transferring data with those > older devices is often a hassle. The standard for this used to be SCSI > (which means SCSI harddisk and SCSI interface for your computer). > > Perhaps the simple solution really IS to use a sound module with sounds y= ou > like, and go with that...;) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 09:10:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B00583BE87; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WvTbw52YS04G8h2xmSZvzOzt9+F7B4ZBSr62Keu6ha8=; b=tfk9mJ1FS7dCwahi05HQ2zch/YoT3GlKfC6XSlyeSKexJTNkLv8aSCQ5M2wjF9OCZl VUjcJ4KEElL6TESm74kYf4wli/IfhH14brqwrQh+RhJvYUZXFivPjALDSFlnjyqWv2uR mV9Haec7d7Emb2Wn8nbzmjkSJ7DU2D5ituGOY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZHClqWfMwdPtoLbMAfUdeTOPiVMg1UweaEDSObcosAcgcj9e68GiRUM1FCah2Uf5/8 j/VTgZKsaWnx7wQeCpPASCqL6vekgZdSFH/f1P55iiN42SrF25QkaULLepvC+OeFRHrk CYwjuCEPdzIBgkwcRUKleYHv+CE0ibvn/DTe0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <39CD6FC3-960D-4F38-9362-9E395059DC3C@ubergadget.com> References: <000301ca6d74$64123830$2c36a890$@com> <39CD6FC3-960D-4F38-9362-9E395059DC3C@ubergadget.com> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:10:31 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: zen for beginners From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7787f35a40504792e6eb1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:10:32 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d7787f35a40504792e6eb1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 yes, i liked that one too. Alan Watts is the man for Zen / Taoist writing. he's written many excellent books on the subject sim On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Revfever wrote: > > On Nov 24, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Tony K wrote: > > I read Zen and the Art of Archery when I was around that age. Quite good. > > > --0016e6d7787f35a40504792e6eb1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes, i liked that one too. Alan Watts is the man for Zen / Taoist writing. = he's written many excellent books on the subject

sim

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Revfever <revfever@ubergadget= .com> wrote:

On Nov 24, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Tony K wrote:<= /div>
I read Zen and the Art of Arch= ery when I was around that age.=A0 Quite good.=A0

--0016e6d7787f35a40504792e6eb1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 09:17:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2AFD3BE8F; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_96a4cb4e-0aed-452c-b688-44afd6c02897_" X-Originating-IP: [62.7.181.6] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: OT: zen for beginners Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:17:15 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2009 09:17:14.0953 (UTC) FILETIME=[13EE3390:01CA6DB0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:17:15 +0000 (UTC) --_96a4cb4e-0aed-452c-b688-44afd6c02897_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At the risk of adding a confusion of plentitude=2C I found this book beauti= ful in its simplicity: Nothing Special=2C Living Zen aka =20 La vida tal como es=2C Ensenanzas Sobren Zen=20 by Charlotte Joko namaste G Date: Tue=2C 24 Nov 2009 23:30:29 +0100 Subject: OT: zen for beginners From: raul.bonell@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young person=2C = an intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and adapted to the actu= al days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some watts=2C suzuki=2C but i'm = not sure about them.. it's for a present. thanks. --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com =20 _________________________________________________________________ Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/= --_96a4cb4e-0aed-452c-b688-44afd6c02897_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At the risk of adding a confusion of plen= titude=2C I found this book beautiful in its simplicity:

Nothing Special=2C Liv= ing Zen =3B

aka= =  =3B

La vida tal como es=2C =3B Ensenanzas Sobren Zen =

by Charlotte Joko
namaste

G


Date: Tue=2C 24 Nov 2009 23:30:29 +0100
Subject: OT: zen for beg= inners
From: raul.bonell@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com

guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a you= ng person=2C an intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and adapte= d to the actual days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some watts=2C suzuk= i=2C but i'm not sure about them.. it's for a present. thanks.

--
Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

=

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 09:47:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10C343BE8A; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:47:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 295923731/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.244.51/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.244.51 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuEBAFqMDEtPTvQz/2dsb2JhbAAImSy8cYQ5BA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,285,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="295923731" Message-ID: <4B0CFD33.7060103@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:47:31 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ableton 8 Looping problems References: <588ce11d0911241223r6a9efaw98aa6b4ba7ec2264@mail.gmail.com> <4B0C4945.10301@asyouthink.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2ABECB0B@barq.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2ABECB0B@barq.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6N9jkC.A.O9B.10PDLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:47:33 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Larson wrote: > > On a modern machine you should be able to run smoothly with a 128 > > sample block size. There will be one of these on both the input and > > output sides for a "round trip" latency of 256 samples or 5.805 > > milliseconds at a sample rate of 44.1K. > > also add in the time taken by AD/DA conversion, which I heard gets larger as quality improves, at least 20 samples for both ways. ..and there seems to be a "Firewire Buffer" (adjustable in an interface that I tried), 4mS or so. I wonder if anyone measured the latency for digital hardware, much of which doesn't have an analog dry signal. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 10:05:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CB0A3BE82; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lPOEFDGpd7buK9Zj1M459rsTmt+kQKDTDrOhOb07I1w=; b=c4W4Mno4vAwP6Jlrz8x9WL2XAd/JCRFClnJHzNY33tnzIR+mHhd40aMp9MPQhHS0bB 8o7YIzz+yw6ig9sTzxPfA5O6FhYsbMbA9OMybfW6PfIF5PIFd0g3uN0Gj2B+Sybrgvw8 0XOGCxcfom91XddS25iBnWCBVE8ESlyls2jrk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fYiae20I2muKY24BQq6TOpVWRR28VbeB4uUV8bSfO6rsCPQJeSxoEf165DqwI/+pEh WPl7oMfS+uYOsc626CEel2HrYK4o+KNHvup74cFoRsWMfwSv+gZ98hhiT9LpEFHmfU+K +qCUmaQ5Hr/wrjWkJktBLckUCZzWBGdGIf6KY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B0CFD33.7060103@tiscali.co.uk> References: <588ce11d0911241223r6a9efaw98aa6b4ba7ec2264@mail.gmail.com> <4B0C4945.10301@asyouthink.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2ABECB0B@barq.sailpoint.com> <4B0CFD33.7060103@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:05:43 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911250205s5a359050s1fbfd539caac5e60@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ableton 8 Looping problems From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd48b48a3903004792f33e2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:05:44 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd48b48a3903004792f33e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:47 AM, andy butler wrote: > I wonder if anyone measured the latency for digital hardware, much > of which doesn't have an analog dry signal. > No, I have not measured but well used digital hardware by digital outboard routing. When I had a TC Electronics Fireworx I used it by digital SPDIF send/return routing and I did not have to make any manual compensation for latency. I often adjust as short timing values as 5 milliseconds by ear so since I did not hear anything fishy the digital round trip must have taken less time than that. Theoretically, Andy, wouldn't what you ask for equal measuring the "latency" between different lines of computer code being executed by the system? Or maybe you are thinking about "the reaction time" of specific hardware units? In my experience, from pre in-the-box days, this is the unknown factor that caused most timing issues. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --000e0cd48b48a3903004792f33e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:47 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wr= ote:
I wonder if anyone measured the latency for= digital hardware, much
of which doesn't have an analog dry signal.

No, I have not measured but well used digital hardware by digital outb= oard routing. When I had a TC Electronics Fireworx I used it by digital SPD= IF send/return routing and I did not have to make any manual compensation f= or latency. I often adjust as short timing values as 5 milliseconds by ear = so since I did not hear anything fishy the digital round trip must have tak= en less time than that.

Theoretically, Andy, wouldn't what you ask for equal measuring the = "latency" between different lines of computer code being executed= by the system? Or maybe you are thinking about "the reaction time&quo= t; of specific hardware units? In my experience, from pre in-the-box days, = this is the unknown factor that caused most timing issues.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboys= en.com
--000e0cd48b48a3903004792f33e2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 10:08:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82D963BE7C; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 295934195/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.244.51/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.244.51 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuYBAAuRDEtPTvQz/2dsb2JhbAAIlDKEerx8hDkE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,285,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="295934195" Message-ID: <4B0D021B.1020608@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:08:27 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT zen for beginners References: <34F960292CAB421B81B1FF9745C90112@ELUK1> <0C599108-18E0-4161-9956-3F2EBDB75C96@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <0C599108-18E0-4161-9956-3F2EBDB75C96@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:08:29 +0000 (UTC) ideal Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:35 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > >> Tao Te Ching. > > Has nothing to do with Zen. > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 10:09:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48CB33BE85; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:09:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=i1aY6+uWHCNkY9uToOWnGXVZ3vx669sM9+0wbdF7Piy1Qs3SwnudWXprcbzdJV1qTHY4CFsCczix0U2d01fUyy9j1tCWAJv03L48IBs1RJ1n/PqRmytZHG4zJQY3Xwt8Hz5QnqlnUnP4RaAjdv1R3IoOXnAJRV/wQ6S10M7rxfo= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- X-YMail-OSG: KkRYfV8VM1kn59hKpRZQT2J_b7Cix1y1SoDdLPd8gaRiG_oQto46CvxvOHv7HDwJtAw7KNxcErpTyvr9wTW9oQFBICTjxxRhoSF8bDmF8v030UT2QhUWGuMa15dohsPh7HOewVcDi3F0J.OFvPzrgWmiRJI7DyaU3HyqoLgbLUDzzv4QsV.rJDdwaUG13Qm7m4CMX67mmr1igQkfT46m.uSo_fHsKYT1ztup8YLOkkqz_WeJgXQk30YnOaEcQOgcdTz1xaMZlwDh_pKcENTcMyHKear894czFP5xo_XvjL783Oj2ytrlXRjbmbvbMNj5KdJgMikh0cwHvrybjg4U5MkPrWa0UHQ7SCM_NAZqVOA28NQBa.xS9Co1EV_9NxgTGlGkp_4AEbfGfElGWT7VgTLgroPlY34bDNVHdq9skk36NhFwlOx0EjQ3o355ns7jICnPN_X4uaFq82IXYzQzadBOb8osocpr4XvaAp7ZDzJaIeGKnOAqcT.rZQSVhCr4epPdfFVQUJ4SyWM- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <008301ca6db7$1e730e60$0d00a8c0@voo.intra> From: "Ruelle Benoit" To: Subject: Prodyon Livemachine: "realtime looping sequencer" Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:07:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:09:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I just discovered this VST: >From the Website (http://prodyon.kilu.de/livemachine.html). Windows(TM) VST2.0 Effect 8 stereo recording loopers + low- and highpass combi-filters. Reverse playback. Variable recording lengths (up to 20 seconds per channel). Six stereo WAV playback channels (user-loadable, disk-streaming). Synced Drumsampler with 12 Parts and "One-Bar"-looping. (+ overdub). Resampling of every channel in realtime. Input effects section with reverb, delay, ringmodulation to name a few. Built-in voice controlled synthesizer with 3 unique modes. Built-in 16-bands stereo vocoder (WAV players/loopers act as carrier). Two stereo audio outputs (1 Main / 1 Cue with click sound). VU/Peak-metres for every in- and output channel + MIDI CC mapping. Realtime click/pop-free effects operation. MIDI learn for almost any onscreen-control. Standalone and VST operation. Custom coded C++ SE modules. MIDI keyboard with at least 49 keys strongly recommended. Just to let you know Ben. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 12:52:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E287F3BE87; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:52:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B0D28AB.8070202@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:52:59 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: Pitch transposer for retuning? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:52:23 +0000 (UTC) Anyone using a programmable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars? Just tried this with my ADA PitchTraq. I used the Effects Out jack only, set direct to zero and effects to 100 (full). Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning, -200 a D tuning etc.. However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when used this way. Any devices on the market which can do this? Preferably without too many gadgets, so I won't have to rob a bank ;) -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 13:31:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 398093BE85; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_75e11e97-06f5-4313-80d7-96385b161eb6_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: Taking VSTs out on the road Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:31:20 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00da01ca6a04$98e7ec30$0b00a8c0@voo.intra> References: <4b06c8a9.0e1abc0a.6500.3dd2@mx.google.com>,<00da01ca6a04$98e7ec30$0b00a8c0@voo.intra> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2009 13:31:20.0640 (UTC) FILETIME=[93116C00:01CA6DD3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:31:22 +0000 (UTC) --_75e11e97-06f5-4313-80d7-96385b161eb6_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all=2C well after a week of sitting at my desk whilst pretending to do my work whi= lst youtubing and googling like mad=2C I am starting to get an idea of wha= t I might be looking for=2C=20 the Roland Fantom XR loks super tastey I have heard the samples which sound= great then i have also seen someone load in samples to create their own pr= esets via compactflash=2C which agian is a method and interface i like.....= ....then you have the fact its upgradable. what are peoples feelings on the unit? any one got one...or has anyone got = new advice for stuff i should be hearing and trying now you know what im lo= oking for? I looked at the proteus stuff and really liked the Phatt and Techno racks.s= omething to keep one eye out for as i have seen a lot of rack stuff in loca= l second hand stores but have ignored them as not for me up to now. cheers Phill > From: benoitruelle@yahoo.fr > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out on the road > Date: Fri=2C 20 Nov 2009 18:12:10 +0100 >=20 > If really sampled sounds is important then waldorf blofeld or clavia=20 > nordwave (+expensive) are solutions too. > At least you still have some synthesis power when needed which might not = be=20 > the case whith a sp555 for instance. > The blofeld seems a bargain but I haven't tried it yet. >=20 > Ben. >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Rainer Straschill" > To: > Sent: Friday=2C November 20=2C 2009 5:49 PM > Subject: AW: Taking VSTs out on the road >=20 >=20 > > so whats would you be looking at now if you had a budget of =A3400 - $6= 00 go > ebaying for old stuff or look at something like the korg microsampler? >=20 > So that's a budget of $600-$660 =3B)? I will now assume you meant to type > $400-$600... >=20 > > i cant get my head around the specs=2C i live in a world where my ninte= ndo > DS has a 16 GB micro SD card in it =2C yet many of the samplers im lookin= g at > > surely someone in the tech world is still making this kind of stuff? >=20 > Let's face it: the high-quality hardware sampler has (almost) vanished fr= om > the market. People who had been using something like an Akai S series=2C = E-Mu > Emulator or similar in a studio setting in the past use a computer today. > Example: NI Kontakt 4. People who used one onstage use a synth workstatio= n > where you can load samples (those devices don't have a sampling option=2C > because - yes=2C you guessed right - people use a computer for this). Exa= mple: > Roland Fantom XR. > The only hardware samplers (being things that not only can playback but a= lso > record samples) seem to be aimed at the more beat-oriented/DJ crowd - apa= rt > frm things like a Roland SP-555=2C there' still the Akai MPC series. >=20 > > the irony is=2C i think i know the answer and its.....yup.on a laptop!!= !! >=20 > Here=2C you said it yourself... >=20 > Ah=2C and if that weren't enough=2C storing and transferring data with th= ose > older devices is often a hassle. The standard for this used to be SCSI > (which means SCSI harddisk and SCSI interface for your computer). >=20 > Perhaps the simple solution really IS to use a sound module with sounds y= ou > like=2C and go with that...=3B) >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/= --_75e11e97-06f5-4313-80d7-96385b161eb6_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all=2C

well after a week of sitting at my desk whilst pretending = to do my work whilst youtubing and googling =3B like mad=2C I am starti= ng to get an idea of what I might be looking for=2C
the Roland Fantom X= R loks super tastey I have heard the samples which sound great then i have = also seen someone load in samples to create their own presets via compactfl= ash=2C which agian is a method and interface i like.........then you have t= he fact its upgradable.

what are peoples feelings on the unit? any o= ne got one...or has anyone got new advice for stuff i should be hearing and= trying now you know what im looking for?

I looked at the proteus st= uff and really liked the Phatt and Techno racks.something to keep one eye o= ut for as i have seen a lot of rack stuff in local second hand stores but h= ave ignored them as not for me up to now.

cheers

Phill
>=3B From: benoitruelle@yahoo.fr
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out on the road
>=3B Dat= e: Fri=2C 20 Nov 2009 18:12:10 +0100
>=3B
>=3B If really sampled= sounds is important then waldorf blofeld or clavia
>=3B nordwave (+e= xpensive) are solutions too.
>=3B At least you still have some synthes= is power when needed which might not be
>=3B the case whith a sp555 f= or instance.
>=3B The blofeld seems a bargain but I haven't tried it y= et.
>=3B
>=3B Ben.
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B ----- Origina= l Message -----
>=3B From: "Rainer Straschill" <=3Bmoinsound@google= mail.com>=3B
>=3B To: <=3BLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>= =3B
>=3B Sent: Friday=2C November 20=2C 2009 5:49 PM
>=3B Subject= : AW: Taking VSTs out on the road
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B >=3B so= whats would you be looking at now if you had a budget of =A3400 - $600 go<= br>>=3B ebaying for old stuff or look at something like the korg microsam= pler?
>=3B
>=3B So that's a budget of $600-$660 =3B)? I will now= assume you meant to type
>=3B $400-$600...
>=3B
>=3B >= =3B i cant get my head around the specs=2C i live in a world where my ninte= ndo
>=3B DS has a 16 GB micro SD card in it =2C yet many of the sample= rs im looking at
>=3B >=3B surely someone in the tech world is still= making this kind of stuff?
>=3B
>=3B Let's face it: the high-qu= ality hardware sampler has (almost) vanished from
>=3B the market. Peo= ple who had been using something like an Akai S series=2C E-Mu
>=3B Em= ulator or similar in a studio setting in the past use a computer today.
= >=3B Example: NI Kontakt 4. People who used one onstage use a synth works= tation
>=3B where you can load samples (those devices don't have a sam= pling option=2C
>=3B because - yes=2C you guessed right - people use a= computer for this). Example:
>=3B Roland Fantom XR.
>=3B The onl= y hardware samplers (being things that not only can playback but also
&g= t=3B record samples) seem to be aimed at the more beat-oriented/DJ crowd - = apart
>=3B frm things like a Roland SP-555=2C there' still the Akai MP= C series.
>=3B
>=3B >=3B the irony is=2C i think i know the an= swer and its.....yup.on a laptop!!!!
>=3B
>=3B Here=2C you said = it yourself...
>=3B
>=3B Ah=2C and if that weren't enough=2C sto= ring and transferring data with those
>=3B older devices is often a ha= ssle. The standard for this used to be SCSI
>=3B (which means SCSI har= ddisk and SCSI interface for your computer).
>=3B
>=3B Perhaps t= he simple solution really IS to use a sound module with sounds you
>= =3B like=2C and go with that...=3B)
>=3B


V= iew your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now.<= /body> = --_75e11e97-06f5-4313-80d7-96385b161eb6_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 13:50:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 340093BE85; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mSDA2swF2Gw4LW3sh7aDmRgFaDmKIo4DGk9cAcySXoI=; b=rUQ6b3IocPaSDKoE+iuGu0rSCgZQg3l/lbGfTS+uhgxXUfbu30mNAhEfoC8qWTJHGH 63hbkQSMd5G0lrOKIV21Lq2x3Euz6D6XIotC9Sdxb6CvV+Ut59Cp7qXzdMApG9zCSA9k EqoSogEAgBHSU+ZnOdbirI681Xw9CR2HPqafc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lrf1XbusePhMUvjaOUADxqp41WmJZgZFSTZfqfRxYdqcjEJ8JNgOBHDtl/3EiI1vvn FbWzxBm9X2JI4IWjY+vemd37fyXDnAT3HHTQepbpSbaoxv0aXxrjm7naymdBIb5II5RY L3L1xCMynn9JTY11YY9cb56sIyw4/9DgRsovA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4b06c8a9.0e1abc0a.6500.3dd2@mx.google.com> <00da01ca6a04$98e7ec30$0b00a8c0@voo.intra> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:50:06 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out on the road From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:50:09 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:31 PM, phillip wilson wrote: > the Roland Fantom XR loks super tastey I have heard the samples which sound > great then i have also seen someone load in samples to create their own > presets via compactflash, which agian is a method and interface i > like.........then you have the fact its upgradable. > > what are peoples feelings on the unit? any one got one...or has anyone got > new advice for stuff i should be hearing and trying now you know what im > looking for? I've used Fantom-XR. It's a professional synth module with a good sound, a built-in sampler to import your own samples, and up to 6 Srx-expension boards for additional rom samples and patches. You can also edit sounds from your PC via USB. 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Yours in Christ, Mrs. Mary Williams From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 14:01:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 061013BE85; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <57418701-BC4C-4476-927B-8B42742BD38A@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <4B0D021B.1020608@tiscali.co.uk> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT zen for beginners Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:01:04 -0600 References: <34F960292CAB421B81B1FF9745C90112@ELUK1> <0C599108-18E0-4161-9956-3F2EBDB75C96@verizon.net> <4B0D021B.1020608@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:01:16 +0000 (UTC) On Nov 25, 2009, at 4:08 AM, andy butler wrote: > ideal Only if you don't know what you're talking about. If so, then, sure. lol Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 14:27:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9C783BE85; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:27:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/M/ljdo9bXaC7DbjmcUFHkkjlzZwdzQQ9BJ8IV0j1T8=; b=ld4it4rG6YvwxGMzO/Dh9LyaobkKvfqifpEfT1w2TtSPpNJ6GWyHG3mL3w4jXK/vc2 /8pdiFkunfeHoDvVhJfrx/ySL5mUxcXkxoCGaMEFa0MWwgiXS2c8ERuYlkew4HkqerPQ 4FMWArUTYZFGyuFf3WkRljiNHE+W+C7wW5vaE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iBvz4gDUNqAi6hB2Z8SBd+ghkreoFWpLyK7bKg/J26yZtsXa4A33OZ2DREPnnhbGlh B11IcygQIgbFgMPgeuEEZjgIogBURojxB6Y55EeiUFxhiI1KlNm4o8jvkxt2sSyN7HrY zIHr1MjlGQuQ9EdAtve59+2NeX1lh8hdfPlhc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B0D28AB.8070202@post.cybercity.dk> References: <4B0D28AB.8070202@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:27:54 -0500 Message-ID: <44e368750911250627p21f9f77cv8b0d0c91f3dcb09c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Pitch transposer for retuning? From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4sEq6B.A.hRD.s7TDLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:27:56 +0000 (UTC) eventide. detune, retune, any sort of pitchshifting with impressive realism= . digitech dhp-33 and -55 both do good jobs as well and cost about 1/10th what an eventide will run you. - jim On Wednesday, November 25, 2009, van Sinn wrote= : > Anyone using a programmable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars? > Just tried this with my ADA PitchTraq. =A0I used the Effects Out jack onl= y, set direct to zero and effects to 100 (full). > Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning, -200 a D tuning etc.. > However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when used this way. > > Any devices on the market which can do this? > Preferably without too many gadgets, so I won't have to rob a bank ;) > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 14:48:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2013C3BE85; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B0D43C4.3000903@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:48:36 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Pitch transposer for retuning? References: <4B0D28AB.8070202@post.cybercity.dk> <44e368750911250627p21f9f77cv8b0d0c91f3dcb09c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <44e368750911250627p21f9f77cv8b0d0c91f3dcb09c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:48:03 +0000 (UTC) That Eventides can do it doesn't surprise me; too expensive though.. Do the dhp series handle full chords well? How about artefacts, tonewise? IIRC, there are quality differences between the two versions.. I'll need one that'll handle at least 7-stringers, and next year also eight strings. At the moment I need to downtune an E-E tuned 6-stringer to Eb, D, C and uptune to F and F#. james fowler wrote: > eventide. detune, retune, any sort of pitchshifting with impressive realism. > > digitech dhp-33 and -55 both do good jobs as well and cost about > 1/10th what an eventide will run you. > > - jim > > On Wednesday, November 25, 2009, van Sinn wrote: > >>Anyone using a programmable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars? >>Just tried this with my ADA PitchTraq. I used the Effects Out jack only, set direct to zero and effects to 100 (full). >>Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning, -200 a D tuning etc.. >>However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when used this way. >> >>Any devices on the market which can do this? >>Preferably without too many gadgets, so I won't have to rob a bank ;) -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 14:51:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C4C33BE84; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:51:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <4B0D43C4.3000903@post.cybercity.dk> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Pitch transposer for retuning? Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:51:02 -0600 References: <4B0D28AB.8070202@post.cybercity.dk> <44e368750911250627p21f9f77cv8b0d0c91f3dcb09c@mail.gmail.com> <4B0D43C4.3000903@post.cybercity.dk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:51:11 +0000 (UTC) > That Eventides can do it doesn't surprise me; too expensive though.. Try the PitchFactor? > > Do the dhp series handle full chords well? > How about artefacts, tonewise? > IIRC, there are quality differences between the two versions.. > the 33-b and the 55 models are the same. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 14:57:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE5A43BE8B; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:57:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Hu8k21XdETgXElGp8/uwH0WUvsqk1hXfQz7KsfI5xJU=; b=B8Ucd1QqvegTdyYcPz1KBu6ROvvkgTE5eRQVUOnv5bwHTkN7G6HWHgCfMZ57HVdHbv VugX9dEmIgpqVvjihjPfEM+FPnLF5KVfn1pqTSdIgj2nercfGhFXnxT7Uot4Ur1EgCml My4cR8VWl2AkaL+X5boAkqfY5+Cwc3c1cdZZw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uP2nUoW/4zvKslAH44RDmZpYVsHUGuty6U+L/57LfPg55We/hLdm50r9obmSSi2S4G 0wg3WO4N1HXVNEmQTdM3LWhkEh4PyMDln16q0Gjc+5Xo6a3EdU4geZ34dSB0bhEKr/68 mrXHXGrMXxtAkaE6w2pZjb7PCf0GKgjr6gO6I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4B0D28AB.8070202@post.cybercity.dk> References: <4B0D28AB.8070202@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:57:01 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Pitch transposer for retuning? From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64dc930623e60047933456e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:57:02 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64dc930623e60047933456e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 VG99, but you'll have to get a GK pickup for your guitar. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:52 AM, van Sinn wrote: > Anyone using a programmable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars? > Just tried this with my ADA PitchTraq. I used the Effects Out jack only, > set direct to zero and effects to 100 (full). > Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning, -200 a D tuning etc.. > However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when used this way. > > Any devices on the market which can do this? > Preferably without too many gadgets, so I won't have to rob a bank ;) > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > -- -==-=-=- Tony --0016e64dc930623e60047933456e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable VG99, but you'll have to get a GK pickup for your guitar.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:52 AM, van Sinn <vansinn@post.cyberci= ty.dk> wrote:
Anyone using a pr= ogrammable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars?
Just tried this with my ADA PitchTraq. =A0I used the Effects Out jack only,= set direct to zero and effects to 100 (full).
Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning, -200 a D tuning etc..
However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when used this way.

Any devices on the market which can do this?
Preferably without too many gadgets, so I won't have to rob a bank ;)
--
rgds,
van Sinn




--
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--0016e64dc930623e60047933456e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 15:02:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCB3C3BE85; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <34F960292CAB421B81B1FF9745C90112@ELUK1> <0C599108-18E0-4161-9956-3F2EBDB75C96@verizon.net> <4B0D021B.1020608@tiscali.co.uk> <57418701-BC4C-4476-927B-8B42742BD38A@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <57418701-BC4C-4476-927B-8B42742BD38A@verizon.net> Subject: Re: OT zen for beginners Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:02:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Are you implying that Tao has nothing to do with the concept of Zen? Or just books of the 20th century? "The Tao of Zen" by Ray Grigg was published in 1994, and argued that "much of Zen Buddhism was almost entirely grounded in Taoist philosophy, though this fact is well shrouded by the persistence of Mahayana Buddhist institutional trappings." So I suppose this is a quasi-religious argument that has gone on for as long as modern Buddhism has existed, and shall continue as long as people wish to argue about it. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Shirkey" Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 2:01 PM To: Subject: Re: OT zen for beginners > > On Nov 25, 2009, at 4:08 AM, andy butler wrote: > >> ideal > > Only if you don't know what you're talking about. If so, then, sure. lol > > Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 15:03:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD3E03BE84; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:03:48 UTC Message-id: <3AF724AE-30FF-463D-855C-694960746AB4@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: zen for beginners Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:03:18 -0600 References: <000301ca6d74$64123830$2c36a890$@com> <39CD6FC3-960D-4F38-9362-9E395059DC3C@ubergadget.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:03:48 +0000 (UTC) On Nov 25, 2009, at 3:10 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > Alan Watts is the man for Zen / Taoist writing. he's written many > excellent books on the subject > No, he's not. Try Stephen Bokencamp or Rob Campany (in English, that is). Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 15:05:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59AF83BE82; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:05:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 489 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:05:30 UTC Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:57:21 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1609709758.8440101259161041654.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4B0D28AB.8070202@post.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: Pitch transposer for retuning? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_429210_1706761991.1259161041653" X-Originating-IP: [170.63.96.108] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.18_GA_3076.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/5.0.18_GA_3076.RHEL5_64) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:05:30 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_429210_1706761991.1259161041653 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This gizmo was mentioned the other day. Don't know anyone who's tried it but it looks interesting. http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Morpheus-DropTune-Octave-Guitar-Effects-Pedal?sku=583554 Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "van Sinn" To: "Loopers-Delight" Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:52:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Pitch transposer for retuning? Anyone using a programmable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars? Just tried this with my ADA PitchTraq. I used the Effects Out jack only, set direct to zero and effects to 100 (full). Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning, -200 a D tuning etc.. However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when used this way. Any devices on the market which can do this? Preferably without too many gadgets, so I won't have to rob a bank ;) -- rgds, van Sinn ------=_Part_429210_1706761991.1259161041653 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>This gizm= o was mentioned the other day.  Don't know anyone who's tried it but i= t looks interesting.

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Morp= heus-DropTune-Octave-Guitar-Effects-Pedal?sku=3D583554

Chris

= ----- Original Message -----
From: "van Sinn" <vansinn@post.cybercity= .dk>
To: "Loopers-Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>= ;
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:52:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eas= tern
Subject: Pitch transposer for retuning?

Anyone using a progr= ammable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars?
Just tried this with my AD= A PitchTraq.  I used the Effects Out jack
only, set direct to zero= and effects to 100 (full).
Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning,= -200 a D tuning etc..
However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when use= d this way.

Any devices on the market which can do this?
Preferab= ly without too many gadgets, so I won't have to rob a bank ;)

-- rgds,
van Sinn

------=_Part_429210_1706761991.1259161041653-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 15:14:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 762F53BE92; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:14:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B0D4A02.1080608@mnet-online.de> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:15:14 +0100 From: Florian Anwander User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Pitch transposer for retuning? References: <4B0D28AB.8070202@post.cybercity.dk> <44e368750911250627p21f9f77cv8b0d0c91f3dcb09c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <44e368750911250627p21f9f77cv8b0d0c91f3dcb09c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at gw2.consol.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:14:05 +0000 (UTC) I owned once a dhp33 and had a dhp55 and also a Evetide DSP4000 at that time for testing, so I could compare. Today I own a digitech TSR24S. If you use the algorithm for narrow shifting (don't know its name at the moment), then all the digitechs have an astonishing quality in pitch shifting - for sure comparable to the Eventide. I also remember the DHP-Series to have a very remarkable algorithm for wider shiftings; this algorithm had the slight disadvantage, that it had a very short delay, which might disturb the guitar player because the sound does fit to the feeling in your finger tips. But for sure not audible for the audience. The TSR24 is not that good in wider shifts. Florain james fowler schrieb: > eventide. detune, retune, any sort of pitchshifting with impressive realism. > > digitech dhp-33 and -55 both do good jobs as well and cost about > 1/10th what an eventide will run you. > > - jim > > On Wednesday, November 25, 2009, van Sinn wrote: >> Anyone using a programmable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars? >> Just tried this with my ADA PitchTraq. I used the Effects Out jack only, set direct to zero and effects to 100 (full). >> Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning, -200 a D tuning etc.. >> However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when used this way. >> >> Any devices on the market which can do this? >> Preferably without too many gadgets, so I won't have to rob a bank ;) >> >> -- >> rgds, >> van Sinn >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 15:41:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC8B33BEAE; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:41:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <23CE972F-4493-4F25-B745-7AD17C78A2FC@ubergadget.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: zen for beginners / Jodo Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:41:25 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 141.158.123.49 In-Reply-To: <23CE972F-4493-4F25-B745-7AD17C78A2FC@ubergadget.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CC3BFCE1C244F8_3938_8469_webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 29202-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CC3BFCE1B199FA-3938-4148@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: <4gZ4mB.A.1OH.4AVDLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:41:44 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CC3BFCE1C244F8_3938_8469_webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" =20 "El Topo" by Alejandro Jodorowsky wow.....i was thinking about this movie just the other day.....scary!....= .zen huh?.....raul, forego the book and send the lad to my garden and i wi= ll put him to work, not that i know anything about zen but i could sit qui= etly and watch him build a wall......:)m =20 =20 ----------MB_8CC3BFCE1C244F8_3938_8469_webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"

"El Topo"= by Alejandro Jodorowsky
wow....= .i was thinking about this movie just the other day.....scary!.....zen huh= ?.....raul, forego the book and send the lad to my garden and i will put= him to work, not that i know anything about zen but i could sit quietly= and watch him build a wall......:)m



----------MB_8CC3BFCE1C244F8_3938_8469_webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 15:50:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0FA43BEA9; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:50:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B0D5262.202@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:50:58 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Pitch transposer for retuning? References: <4B0D28AB.8070202@post.cybercity.dk> <44e368750911250627p21f9f77cv8b0d0c91f3dcb09c@mail.gmail.com> <4B0D4A02.1080608@mnet-online.de> In-Reply-To: <4B0D4A02.1080608@mnet-online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:50:27 +0000 (UTC) Florian Anwander wrote: > I owned once a dhp33 and had a dhp55 and also a Evetide DSP4000 at that > time for testing, so I could compare. Today I own a digitech TSR24S. If > you use the algorithm for narrow shifting (don't know its name at the > moment), then all the digitechs have an astonishing quality in pitch > shifting - for sure comparable to the Eventide. > I also remember the DHP-Series to have a very remarkable algorithm for > wider shiftings; this algorithm had the slight disadvantage, that it had > a very short delay, which might disturb the guitar player because the > sound does fit to the feeling in your finger tips. But for sure not > audible for the audience. The TSR24 is not that good in wider shifts. Yeah, I actually have two TSR24's (one with Dieter's PPC module), but haven't had it hooked up in front of my rig. I'm using one input and two outputs for effects in a S/R loop, and would use the other input and one aux output for stacking-up a clean channel in parallel to my other preamp, an ADA MP-2. With one aux output left over, this means I can actually plug the guitar into the TSR (through a small preamp), route the remaining aux output as input to my MP-2, and still use it to stack-up a clean channel. Cute ;) Though I really like the TSR24 pitch/harmonizing, I wouldn't say it's Eventide quality, though by far good enough for my uses. I just haven't tried using it for up/down-tuning a whole instrument, though I believe it'll work. Algorithms are nicely fast, min timelag. This setup will also allow pre-shaping filters, wah and digital whammy before the preamp. I feel the need for going geeky programming :D Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > Try the PitchFactor? I wasn't aware it could do such things as well? Are you sure? It's quite a sexy compact lil'thing.. Christophe wrote: > > This gizmo was mentioned the other day. Don't know anyone who's tried > it but it looks interesting. > http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Morpheus-DropTune-Octave-Guitar-Effects-Pedal?sku=583554 Interesting, thanks, had'n noticed. Only drops though.. > james fowler schrieb: > >> eventide. detune, retune, any sort of pitchshifting with impressive >> realism. >> >> digitech dhp-33 and -55 both do good jobs as well and cost about >> 1/10th what an eventide will run you. >> >> - jim >> >> On Wednesday, November 25, 2009, van Sinn >> wrote: >> >>> Anyone using a programmable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars? >>> Just tried this with my ADA PitchTraq. I used the Effects Out jack >>> only, set direct to zero and effects to 100 (full). >>> Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning, -200 a D tuning etc.. >>> However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when used this way. >>> >>> Any devices on the market which can do this? >>> Preferably without too many gadgets, so I won't have to rob a bank ;) >>> >>> -- >>> rgds, >>> van Sinn >>> >>> >> >> > > -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 15:50:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA7163BEA9; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:50:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <23CE972F-4493-4F25-B745-7AD17C78A2FC@ubergadget.com> <8CC3BFCE1B199FA-3938-4148@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CC3BFCE1B199FA-3938-4148@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: OT: zen for beginners / Jodo Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:50:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6DE7.0C083D60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:50:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6DE7.0C083D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Give me "Manos, the Hands of Fate" anyday. Hey, tomorrow being Turkey = Day is anyone else going to watch some MST3K? From: nemoguitt@aol.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 3:41 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: OT: zen for beginners / Jodo "El Topo" by Alejandro Jodorowsky wow.....i was thinking about this movie just the other = day.....scary!.....zen huh?....raul, forego the book and send the lad = to my garden and i will put him to work, not that i know anything about = zen but i could sit quietly and watch him build a wall......:)m ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6DE7.0C083D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Give me "Manos, the Hands of = Fate"=20 anyday.  Hey, tomorrow being Turkey Day is anyone else going to = watch some=20 MST3K?

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"El = Topo"=20 by Alejandro Jodorowsky
wow.....i was=20 thinking about this movie just the other day.....scary!.....zen = huh?.....raul,=20 forego the book and send the lad to my garden and i will put him to = work, not=20 that i know anything about zen but i could sit quietly and watch him = build a=20 wall......:)m



------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA6DE7.0C083D60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 16:48:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1A6D3BE7F; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B0D6032.8030700@mnet-online.de> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:49:54 +0100 From: Florian Anwander User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Pitch transposer for retuning? References: <4B0D28AB.8070202@post.cybercity.dk> <44e368750911250627p21f9f77cv8b0d0c91f3dcb09c@mail.gmail.com> <4B0D4A02.1080608@mnet-online.de> <4B0D5262.202@post.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: <4B0D5262.202@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at gw2.consol.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <93cbHC.A.uIC.t_VDLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Hello > Though I really like the TSR24 pitch/harmonizing, I wouldn't say it's > Eventide quality, though by far good enough for my uses. The DHP-55 is better in shifting than the TSR24! Florain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 17:31:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85FE13BE85; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9d45f739-8109-4118-9d81-1062be1b6098_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.208] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: OT: zen for beginners Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:31:35 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2009 17:31:35.0161 (UTC) FILETIME=[22CAC690:01CA6DF5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:31:36 +0000 (UTC) --_9d45f739-8109-4118-9d81-1062be1b6098_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know you've gotten a lot of replies but as a Soto Zen practicioner I reco= mmend Shunryu Suzuki ( NOT D.T.!) 'Zen Mind=2C Beginners Mind' --I imagine = this has been translated. Also=2C see if you can find Red Pine's translation of 'The Heart Sutra' --B= oth books are wonderful=2C easy to read=2C and ultimately DEEP on further r= eadings and deeper understanding of Zen. My own first book on Zen was Alan = Watts 'The Way of Zen' which is also a great beginners source. Good Luck! =20 J.D.Devros=20 deafrose58 =20 Date: Tue=2C 24 Nov 2009 23:30:29 +0100 Subject: OT: zen for beginners From: raul.bonell@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young person=2C = an intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and adapted to the actu= al days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some watts=2C suzuki=2C but i'm = not sure about them.. it's for a present. thanks. --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com =20 _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps=2C menus=2C and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=3Drestaurants&form=3DMFESRP&publ=3DWLHMTAG&cre= a=3DTEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1= --_9d45f739-8109-4118-9d81-1062be1b6098_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know you've gotten a lot of replies but as a Soto Zen practicioner I reco= mmend Shunryu Suzuki ( NOT D.T.!) 'Zen Mind=2C Beginners Mind' --I imagine = this has been translated.
Also=2C see if you can =3Bfind Red Pine's translation of 'The Heart Sut= ra' --Both books are wonderful=2C easy to read=2C and ultimately DEEP on fu= rther readings and deeper understanding of Zen. My own first book on Zen wa= s Alan Watts 'The Way of Zen' which is also a great beginners source.
Good Luck!
 =3B
J.D.Devros
deafrose58
 =3B

Date: Tue=2C 24 Nov 2009 23:30:29 +0100
Subject: OT: zen for beginnersFrom: raul.bonell@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young perso= n=2C an intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and adapted to the= actual days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some watts=2C suzuki=2C but= i'm not sure about them.. it's for a present. thanks.

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Raul Bonell at Blogger: h= ttp://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

=

Bing brings you maps=2C menus=2C and reviews organized in o= ne place. Try it now. = --_9d45f739-8109-4118-9d81-1062be1b6098_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 18:07:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB27D3BE8A; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:07:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B0D7240.7040406@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:06:56 -0800 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Blackbird guitars References: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:07:02 +0000 (UTC) Since we've discussed portability a lot on the list, as well as the unrelated topic of guitar pickups that split the signal per string, I thought I'd mention my experience auditioning a Blackbird guitar yesterday. Blackbirds are small-bodied (but full-scale) carbon-fiber acoustic guitars, made by hand in San Francisco. I became aware of them just a few weeks ago through this video shot by Henry Kaiser of his Blackbird being played underwater in Antarctica (!). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCPiPh2sWDk Carbon fiber is incredibly stiff stuff, and survived this experience unscathed. (Yesterday, the maker was giving it direct full-force kicks to the body to show how tough it is, which almost made me lose my lunch, but it didn't show a mark). It's also incredibly light - the nylon-string I played weighs only three pounds. As a guitar, it's surprisingly loud, and though the body is about six inches shorter and four inches narrower than a regular guitar, it has a great bass response, as well as a really unique and clear high end. It's a very modern sound, which wouldn't be mistaken for a concert classical, but I kinda fell in love with it. Complex chords are really detailed, and the whole body vibrates, even the neck (which is hollow - there's a tiny soundhole where you'd expect a truss rod to be). I've tried out most of the travel guitar options, and this definitely is the one offering the best tone, and durability, plus a really cool look. They offer the RMC pickup system with it, which has an individual saddle-mounted pickup for each string. That can be broken out separately, and used either in its analog form, or to drive MIDI. Especially given its nice acoustic clarity, I think it would work extremely well for individual string processing, like dropping the bass strings down an octave. The guitar ain't cheap - with the RMC, about $2000 US - but if I'm lucky I may figure out a way to acquire one for my travels. http://www.blackbirdguitar.com gear on, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 19:17:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 658DF3BE7C; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259176632; bh=PZWrsFiVJWhfI1BvSReuVaUCUl+W3LTmGY1hFzy+IQY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HkmQTiSLeQ1vdVEGNtA8BFpKBXbOyzsePvpRcCufaA3NW6TiGHPX9Ceinm4e/6onOw6aJJjwfdA+JdiUf5YVVke0F9mdGHkvJxre2anLmxha9nX3F/iez1TUO5SUOo+zKewA2IWCuMhCyLXshsRV3R+xRa2qZ4HlIR9ax/mlZvQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gtJk59DyTWufBKovOnLc2q1L+jSDKmJAaIje0MD8KtnJDmosT2piBMXlZHImI4tjn48SpK/q6eSKPlIoya7WPAp1BzH7P1Ki0j4pWDlyVqR60m0S95yOj0xoPtfjboi4sNcH1KPPzeREZXnivXkqssVJjV8gfKO3yHgeVCAnTOI=; Message-ID: <970220.56043.qm@web110217.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: poqZ0UQVM1mORaoYyNF5dD25tp7KqQOjcSpTZrXO_tsuNOiZziwJyEBxumQ_0q551RfqT09ixCv6w.8BllcSgnxpg7ELXdgpnRjPOKP1MBmnR3ArYdLtpvj.RHwINpszgZn6pGMi7ElMgoWYiQfIp1KQwHOfGDbpJT9UPEbtxZi9dQMnhxq8BzacIHUBwmlW2wuZiMnO7C5rxAsdWziFTS869hbMznZiFt9xzwxUfvtAazU3J0WPXDLOk76i7GrS2_0KJrGofqFGj3SljeW50FGBgItXf6ix87Z_0qPnfHHEHBhY84xBlCVizoU51hDuzC4EwaLdGZHYiW0ftFdmop4- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:17:12 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-718716894-1259176632=:56043" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:17:14 +0000 (UTC) --0-718716894-1259176632=:56043 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello: =A0 In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output capability to rou= te the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm about to get a smal= l wattage Marshall (Class5 -=A0 5W) with no output feature which means I wi= ll have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced microphone? T= HX! =A0 Regards, Paul=0A=0A=0A --0-718716894-1259176632=:56043 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Cheers,
Rev. = Fever
Portland,OR

Hello:
 
In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output capability t= o route the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm about to get a= small wattage Marshall (Class5 -  5W) with no output feature which me= ans I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced micro= phone? THX!
 
Regards, Paul

=0A=0A --0-718716894-1259176632=:56043-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 19:18:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76AEE3BE78; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:18:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <9EA6F0FA32F247918E1C944D53C14170@ELUK1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <970220.56043.qm@web110217.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <970220.56043.qm@web110217.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:18:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA6E04.0E33F0D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:18:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA6E04.0E33F0D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The ever-lovin Shure SM57 has never failed me. From: Paul Richards=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:17 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp Hello: In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output = capability to route the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm = about to get a small wattage Marshall (Class5 - 5W) with no output = feature which means I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a = reasonably priced microphone? THX! Regards, Paul=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA6E04.0E33F0D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The ever-lovin Shure SM57 has = never failed=20 me.

Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:17 PM
Subject: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp

Hello:
 
In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output = capability=20 to route the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm = about to get=20 a small wattage Marshall (Class5 -  5W) with no output = feature which=20 means I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably = priced=20 microphone? THX!
 
Regards, = Paul

------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA6E04.0E33F0D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 19:23:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0AE13BE7F; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4BzyWiV3lGjcJpVdemyVFn6cOe/n5l9YZwuzEcYSfhI=; b=FUhc0JQAmvoz4Z5otdQy2E0QQ46L2FtLtExtsIKHs9V+U2jCH63U2IMn+nSpE/DDRZ FKSxkmscMR3DoPtLH8LKcKLHQeCNm8zMPQbOSUN3DO1rzr2+BziapkNdalkLYFRIHuat AN4OVWVg0TnKT2XdfFwPGdGNQtixamzGwQiY8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wMbSrSjv8HNqk3fUE4jBY2odBZdphXC+hoTKrBlm0ZWc6lT3DDttghako8Bmya1cCI A8R851Km+8ASR//PyFEYGTSfk7ST8IkJBZs95zA3cokUKR5ZakmkUxTRGTQFJQ8PhZGU yiIgFYKR92aWWJtjQV3fE4/0eGiW3eQV99wGc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9EA6F0FA32F247918E1C944D53C14170@ELUK1> References: <970220.56043.qm@web110217.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <9EA6F0FA32F247918E1C944D53C14170@ELUK1> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:23:28 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64c16d44adf91047936fed1 Resent-Message-ID: <7xPX-.A.dVB.xQYDLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:23:29 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64c16d44adf91047936fed1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yup. SM57. It's pretty much the standard guitar amp mic. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > The ever-lovin Shure SM57 has never failed me. > > *From:* Paul Richards > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:17 PM > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Subject:* OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp > > Hello: > > In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output capability to > route the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm about to get a > small wattage Marshall (Class5 - 5W) with no output feature which means I > will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced microphone? > THX! > > Regards, Paul > > -- -==-=-=- Tony --0016e64c16d44adf91047936fed1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yup.=A0 SM57.=A0 It's pretty much the standard guitar amp mic.

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Goodman = <spgoodman= @earthlight.net> wrote:
The ever-lovin Shure SM57 has n= ever failed=20 me.

Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:17 PM
Subject: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp

Hello:
=A0
In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output ca= pability=20 to route the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm abo= ut to get=20 a small wattage Marshall (Class5 -=A0 5W) with no output feature whic= h=20 means I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably pric= ed=20 microphone? THX!
=A0
Regards, Paul




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--0016e64c16d44adf91047936fed1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 19:24:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52A193BE87; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:24:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> <4B0D7240.7040406@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: <4B0D7240.7040406@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: OT: Blackbird guitars Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:23:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:24:05 +0000 (UTC) The idea of programming resonance level via carbon-fiber construction is just cool. That being said my wife is buying me one of Brian May's guitars retrospectively for our anniversary. :) I told her to hold off until the Studio is done in the late Winter/early Spring, "When I can really put it to work," as I put it. Needless to say EarthLight Studios UK will be pretty-well soundproofed... :) -------------------------------------------------- From: "Daryl Shawn" Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:06 PM To: Subject: OT: Blackbird guitars > Since we've discussed portability a lot on the list, as well as the > unrelated topic of guitar pickups that split the signal per string, I > thought I'd mention my experience auditioning a Blackbird guitar > yesterday. Blackbirds are small-bodied (but full-scale) carbon-fiber > acoustic guitars, made by hand in San Francisco. I became aware of them > just a few weeks ago through this video shot by Henry Kaiser of his > Blackbird being played underwater in Antarctica (!). > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCPiPh2sWDk > > Carbon fiber is incredibly stiff stuff, and survived this experience > unscathed. (Yesterday, the maker was giving it direct full-force kicks to > the body to show how tough it is, which almost made me lose my lunch, but > it didn't show a mark). It's also incredibly light - the nylon-string I > played weighs only three pounds. As a guitar, it's surprisingly loud, and > though the body is about six inches shorter and four inches narrower than > a regular guitar, it has a great bass response, as well as a really unique > and clear high end. It's a very modern sound, which wouldn't be mistaken > for a concert classical, but I kinda fell in love with it. Complex chords > are really detailed, and the whole body vibrates, even the neck (which is > hollow - there's a tiny soundhole where you'd expect a truss rod to be). > I've tried out most of the travel guitar options, and this definitely is > the one offering the best tone, and durability, plus a really cool look. > > They offer the RMC pickup system with it, which has an individual > saddle-mounted pickup for each string. That can be broken out separately, > and used either in its analog form, or to drive MIDI. Especially given its > nice acoustic clarity, I think it would work extremely well for individual > string processing, like dropping the bass strings down an octave. > > The guitar ain't cheap - with the RMC, about $2000 US - but if I'm lucky I > may figure out a way to acquire one for my travels. > > http://www.blackbirdguitar.com > > gear on, > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 19:26:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A87DA3BE86; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_56bcc765-0d00-4764-a4c0-0ab3b903d142_" X-Originating-IP: [62.7.181.6] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:26:01 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <970220.56043.qm@web110217.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <970220.56043.qm@web110217.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2009 19:26:01.0648 (UTC) FILETIME=[1F898B00:01CA6E05] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:26:02 +0000 (UTC) --_56bcc765-0d00-4764-a4c0-0ab3b903d142_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A SM58 wil do the trick Paul. I think the beta's=2C (more expensive) are su= pposed to have better feedback rejection if you can afford it=20 peace G Date: Wed=2C 25 Nov 2009 11:17:12 -0800 From: paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com Subject: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Hello: =20 In the past=2C I've always had guitar amps with some output capability to r= oute the signal to a looper=2C recording device=2C et al. I'm about to get = a small wattage Marshall (Class5 - 5W) with no output feature which means = I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced microphon= e? THX! =20 Regards=2C Paul =20 _________________________________________________________________ View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/= --_56bcc765-0d00-4764-a4c0-0ab3b903d142_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A SM58 wil do the trick Paul. I think the beta's=2C (more expensive) are su= pposed to have better feedback rejection if you can afford it

peace=
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Date: Wed=2C 25 Nov 2009 11:17:12 -080= 0
From: paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com
Subject: OT: Mike for Recording G= uitar Amp
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Hello:
 =3B
In the past=2C I've always had guitar amps with some output capability= to route the signal to a looper=2C recording device=2C et al. I'm about to= get a small wattage Marshall (Class5 - =3B 5W) with no output feature = which means I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably pric= ed microphone? THX!
 =3B
Regards=2C Paul


<= hr />View your other email accounts from your Hotmail inbox. Add them now= . = --_56bcc765-0d00-4764-a4c0-0ab3b903d142_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 25 19:27:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 259903BE93; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Reyn Ouwehand To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--450304969 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:27:32 +0100 References: <970220.56043.qm@web110217.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <9EA6F0FA32F247918E1C944D53C14170@ELUK1> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1NDNWX-0000PV-An X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-2.467, vereist 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, TVD_RCVD_IP 1.93) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: loopers-delight@reyn.net X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:27:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--450304969 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SM57... On Nov 25, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Tony K wrote: > Yup. SM57. It's pretty much the standard guitar amp mic. > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Goodman > wrote: > The ever-lovin Shure SM57 has never failed me. > > From: Paul Richards > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:17 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp > > Hello: > > In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output capability > to route the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm about > to get a small wattage Marshall (Class5 - 5W) with no output > feature which means I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a > reasonably priced microphone? THX! > > Regards, Paul > > > > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony --Apple-Mail-1--450304969 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yup.  SM57.  It's pretty much the standard = guitar amp mic.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 = at 2:18 PM, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net><= /span> wrote:
The ever-lovin Shure SM57 has never = failed me.
=

Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:17 = PM
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Subject: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar = Amp

Hello:
 
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In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output = capability to route the signal to a looper, recording device, et = al. I'm about to get a small wattage Marshall (Class5 -  5W) = with no output feature which means I will have to mike it up. Any = suggestions on a reasonably priced microphone? THX!
=
 
Regards, = Paul

=



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Tony

cheers,
os.


2009/11/25 Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com>
Hello:
=A0
In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output capabili= ty to route the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm about = to get a small wattage Marshall (Class5 -=A0 5W) with no output feature whi= ch means I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced = microphone? THX!
=A0
Regards, Paul




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--000e0ce03d0e1fb2530479424a44-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 26 09:28:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB2843BE73; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 293049574/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.149.160/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.149.160 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjYCAHfYDUtPTpWg/2dsb2JhbAAImTq6aYI5gXkEgXI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,292,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="293049574" Message-ID: <4B0E4A2F.8030201@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:28:15 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp References: <970220.56043.qm@web110217.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <970220.56043.qm@web110217.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Depends where you want to use it. ...and the effect you wanna get. The SM57 has been mentioned as it's often used in studios for that purpose, and it's cheap. It'll get the job done. ...but it has drawbacks 1) Shure mics are inconsistent to an extent that's unusual in a mic considered to be a standard. There's a lot of variation in how they sound. (to be fair, part of that's down to their reputation for robustness...they tend not to get looked after, then they degrade) 2) A mic that colors the sound so considerably works best if it's only used for one or two elements in your final mix. 3) It's not a good option as an all round mic, in case you wanted to use it other stuff too. 4) If you want to try the mic at a further distance from the amp to capture ambience, and get an alternative tone for recording, then a less colored mic would be better. Of course, none of those drawbacks is necessarily a deal breaker. An alternative would be a decent small diaphragm condenser, something by Rode, Octava, Beyer Dynamic. That would give you a more accurate representation of the amp (not necessarily what you want), and could be also be used for recording more or less anything. Make sure you spend time finding the best mic placement, that makes all the difference. Distance, position and angle. My favourite is to use a condenser about an inch away on the edge of the speaker cone. andy butler Paul Richards wrote: > Hello: > > In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output capability to > route the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm about to get > a small wattage Marshall (Class5 - 5W) with no output feature which > means I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced > microphone? THX! > > Regards, Paul > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 26 10:05:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32BB43BE75; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:05:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259229900; bh=qdaYqeyaxbisWqu2In2TxsTInklRdIbvEHAHHSFK/0M=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=BM3LgeFkhcVpCnY1zJL/bRo2vzH9xMSmniLhac1kMGMzVWV4IzBcquJphDUAw5nXj848Ezg+g3i6DQBNIjqdNy/6aHHa4ld9kvbu6eLSNSZkVe6vWAGSSth7GdRdkvceY1rWW9IduUtTQFee+93R8Qvgkwho4INlDMFK62Nuffg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eBu2v8KSLeFB3p/sHDqqJpWRn5O15QBsgkCikkB0VWBiW8qDLpTr4zkRbhbGd8mf++KSMJUSWOPrO0WUpxtncqvZxv/0DhykeY/MHShN/xeLHyFDdrYvcf5mOJBXWfEuF3ZXTGneduaDn3Wfv26Ca7QUvOAZtDsDGIIsAydbLxE=; Message-ID: <975064.33444.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 3DSdXwIVM1mdAB1bMbLpUlHjHiQPz4y9C17nX7Zg1jUdTTMRxY9W9MaZ.jGgbrh.rAPYtNPJEK.wcyYJAmyXQGOevu4J5ftsMrQvLvgYVYM6yiRr9bkUvUWvu0hwv0_DkhEqCxjxZYEKjzaATpQ_rnK5mDuSK53D1Z_WtsZMBnp2E045b9rJElMYU408h71O1il6OzZLOVesb6WP_09SjdaU.ZNaUCS76UbO2Rz80cPM4CGbQhoZtXIdD7D1zj0_72Eot1BVGOGiVqMu2CfNDx4vn5S0foC4s6VDkrdTdNdA1ZvEDxKpNwEbhXyUD5K_Q1lBC5_TM5.G X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:05:00 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk In-Reply-To: <4B0BAB09.30106@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:05:03 +0000 (UTC) > But as i said its only working for the virtual comands=0A> and not the di= rect midi ones and is driving me crazy!=0A> =0A> huh, 62 General reset *is*= a Direct Midi.=0A> ..and that's a "voila"=0A=0AHi Andy im still having pro= blems with this and i dont know if its me or the controller but i need to k= now otherwise i think im going to return it.=0Aheres the deal,why is it tha= t the behringer functions perfectly and this one doesnt? on the behringer i= just give the note number regardless if its a virtual midi or direct midi = and it works!=0Awith the liquid foot only the virtual ones work but i canno= t get "general reset" (62) or any of the other ones to work! ive tried ever= ything,setting the switch momentary,stomp tap tempo etc.=0A=0A> =0A> Is it = possible that you mean other Direct Midi's aren't=0A> working?=0A> If they = were SUS commands then that makes sense, and ties=0A> in with=0A> your obse= rvation that longpress on Record (to give Reset)=0A> isn't working. =0A =0A= all im entering is the note number and the data value of 127 and nothing el= se!=0ABut i have discovered something:=0Awhen i reset the echoplex by holdi= ng and pressing the record button ,then when i send the general reset coman= d from the liquid foot it seems to triger it,but then when i use the record= button it doesnt work anymore!it also seems to put the edp in a weird mode= ,that is when i try to reset it by holding and pressing th record button it= seems as if it was locked and then i press it a second time and it resets,= any ideas? ive been even thinking of sending it to you so you can check it = out but i dont know if that would be ok with you,plus you could do a compar= ison between the gordius and this one;-)=0Athanx for your always great help= man i really apreciate it!=0A=0A=0A> =0A> My guess is that your controller= is sending=0A> Note-On/Note-Off pairs on=0A> pressing the switch, not wait= ing for you to release it=0A> before sending the Note-Off.=0A> =0A> So, the= Direct Midi SUS commands will not be audible.=0A> (e.g. SUS Reverse would = reverse for such a small time that=0A> you wouldn't perceive it)=0A> =0A> = =0A> I had a look at the manual for your controller, it=0A> describes a num= ber=0A> of "button modes".=0A> One of those is "Momentary while Holding"=0A= > ....that's what you want.=0A> (or whatever causes the Note-Off to be sent= as you=0A> *release* the switch)=0A=0Atried that but nothing either...=0A>= =0A> hope that helps=0A> =0A> andy=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> > =0A> > =0A> >= =0A> > =0A> > =0A> >>=0A> >> andy=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >= >> cheers=0A> >>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>> ---= andy butler =0A> >> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:=0A>= >>>> Von: andy butler =0A> >>>> Betreff: Re: progr= aming liquid foot jr.=0A> midi=0A> >> footcontroller with EDP help!=0A> >>>= > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> >>>> Datum: Montag, 23. Novem= ber 2009, 10:46=0A> >>>> what Per said for the DirectMidi.=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>= > They only require Note-On (except for=0A> SUS)=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>> To get t= he longpress(to make reset work)=0A> I'd try=0A> >> changing=0A> >>>> the B= utton Mode to "Momentary while=0A> Holding".=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>> I d= on't understand where you entered=0A> "64".=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>> andy=0A> >>>>= L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >>>>> hi gang,=0A> >>>>> i just got the litte liquid f= oot midi=0A> >> controller and=0A> >>>> im having a hard time controlling t= he EDP=0A> as i did=0A> >> with the=0A> >>>> behringer.=0A> >>>>> So far iv= e manage to program the=0A> virtual=0A> >> functions=0A> >>>> like=0A> >>>>= > record=0A> >>>>> overdub=0A> >>>>> multiply=0A> >>>>> mute=0A> >>>>> undo= =0A> >>>>> next=0A> >>>>> reverse=0A> >>>>> half speed=0A> >>>>>=0A> >>>>> = the way i have to do this is giving=0A> the "note=0A> >> on"=0A> >>>> offse= t number and a value of 64 and it=0A> works=0A> >> fine.=0A> >>>>> However = when i try to program any of=0A> the e=0A> >> DirectMidi=0A> >>>> functions= it does not respond at all,do i=0A> have to=0A> >> send=0A> >>>> additiona= l comands for them to function? i=0A> recall=0A> >> on the=0A> >>>> behring= er fcb1010 i just gave the note=0A> number and=0A> >> it=0A> >>>> worked.= =0A> >>>>> The otherr thing that is not working=0A> is=0A> >> erasing the= =0A> >>>> loop by holding and pressing the record=0A> button.=0A> >>>>> Any= way if u midi experts could take a=0A> little=0A> >> time to=0A> >>>> help = me id be really thankfull!=0A> >>>>> here is the liquid foot jr manual:=0A>= >>>>>=0A> >>>>> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml=0A> >>>>>=0A> >= >>>> Thanx=0A> >>>>> cheers=0A> >>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> >>>= >>=0A> >>>>>=0A> >>=0A> __________________________________________________= =0A> >>>>> Do You Yahoo!?=0A> >>>>> Sie sind Spam leid? 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 26 13:12:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C14C73BE79; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 297171166/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.149.160/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.149.160 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At8BAMYNDktPTpWg/2dsb2JhbAAIkCSJFrsOgjGCAAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,294,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="297171166" Message-ID: <4B0E7ED0.5070705@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:12:48 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help! References: <975064.33444.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <975064.33444.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <-n0czD.A.5GG.T7nDLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Hi Luis, Well, probably the next thing to try is to contact the Liquid Foot guys. (if you didn't already). Tell them you need each switch to send a Note-On when it's pressed, and a Note-Off when it's released. ...and nothing else. Perhaps explain you do something called "live looping", that a lot of people do that, and that they have special needs as regards midi pedals. I'd expect them to be really helpful, and they may update their software. (Is your unit updatable?) The manual hardly mentions Note-On at all, maybe their implementation is a bit weird. (it seems so, you might try hooking up a midi sound module with an organ type sound and see if that sustains while the switch is held) Actually, the manual looks unfinished...they didn't do the midi implementation chart yet! Another option is to try CC commands instead. The liquid certainly seems to have a "momentary" option for those, designed to keep an effect switched on while you hold the switch down. page 64 in the manual (and maybe some earlier pages) tells how you can just program in a CC value (same as EDP note number) and have the switch send 127 on that CC on press, and 0 on release. hope you get looping,soon andy L.Angulo wrote: >> But as i said its only working for the virtual comands >> and not the direct midi ones and is driving me crazy! >> >> huh, 62 General reset *is* a Direct Midi. >> ..and that's a "voila" > > Hi Andy im still having problems with this and i dont know if its me or the controller but i need to know otherwise i think im going to return it. > heres the deal,why is it that the behringer functions perfectly and this one doesnt? on the behringer i just give the note number regardless if its a virtual midi or direct midi and it works! > with the liquid foot only the virtual ones work but i cannot get "general reset" (62) or any of the other ones to work! ive tried everything,setting the switch momentary,stomp tap tempo etc. > >> Is it possible that you mean other Direct Midi's aren't >> working? >> If they were SUS commands then that makes sense, and ties >> in with >> your observation that longpress on Record (to give Reset) >> isn't working. > > all im entering is the note number and the data value of 127 and nothing else! > But i have discovered something: > when i reset the echoplex by holding and pressing the record button ,then when i send the general reset comand from the liquid foot it seems to triger it,but then when i use the record button it doesnt work anymore!it also seems to put the edp in a weird mode,that is when i try to reset it by holding and pressing th record button it seems as if it was locked and then i press it a second time and it resets,any ideas? ive been even thinking of sending it to you so you can check it out but i dont know if that would be ok with you,plus you could do a comparison between the gordius and this one;-) > thanx for your always great help man i really apreciate it! > > >> My guess is that your controller is sending >> Note-On/Note-Off pairs on >> pressing the switch, not waiting for you to release it >> before sending the Note-Off. >> >> So, the Direct Midi SUS commands will not be audible. >> (e.g. SUS Reverse would reverse for such a small time that >> you wouldn't perceive it) >> >> >> I had a look at the manual for your controller, it >> describes a number >> of "button modes". >> One of those is "Momentary while Holding" >> ....that's what you want. >> (or whatever causes the Note-Off to be sent as you >> *release* the switch) > > tried that but nothing either... >> hope that helps >> >> andy >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> andy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> cheers >>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- andy butler >>>> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009: >>>>>> Von: andy butler >>>>>> Betreff: Re: programing liquid foot jr. >> midi >>>> footcontroller with EDP help! >>>>>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>>>> Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009, 10:46 >>>>>> what Per said for the DirectMidi. >>>>>> >>>>>> They only require Note-On (except for >> SUS) >>>>>> To get the longpress(to make reset work) >> I'd try >>>> changing >>>>>> the Button Mode to "Momentary while >> Holding". >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't understand where you entered >> "64". >>>>>> andy >>>>>> L.Angulo wrote: >>>>>>> hi gang, >>>>>>> i just got the litte liquid foot midi >>>> controller and >>>>>> im having a hard time controlling the EDP >> as i did >>>> with the >>>>>> behringer. >>>>>>> So far ive manage to program the >> virtual >>>> functions >>>>>> like >>>>>>> record >>>>>>> overdub >>>>>>> multiply >>>>>>> mute >>>>>>> undo >>>>>>> next >>>>>>> reverse >>>>>>> half speed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the way i have to do this is giving >> the "note >>>> on" >>>>>> offset number and a value of 64 and it >> works >>>> fine. >>>>>>> However when i try to program any of >> the e >>>> DirectMidi >>>>>> functions it does not respond at all,do i >> have to >>>> send >>>>>> additional comands for them to function? i >> recall >>>> on the >>>>>> behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note >> number and >>>> it >>>>>> worked. >>>>>>> The otherr thing that is not working >> is >>>> erasing the >>>>>> loop by holding and pressing the record >> button. >>>>>>> Anyway if u midi experts could take a >> little >>>> time to >>>>>> help me id be really thankfull! >>>>>>> here is the liquid foot jr manual: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanx >>>>>>> cheers >>>>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> __________________________________________________ >>>>>>> Do You Yahoo!? >>>>>>> Sie sind Spam leid? 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anybody here using these? i'= ve lost my esx files (just had a massive housekeepng session and i seem to = have deleted the bloody things)...can anybody help a brotha out?

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--001636e90b7aa09ae80479473b25-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 26 14:59:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F69C3BE78; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1259247540; bh=2SHvIJ5Nw7bHIjbX80VHJ5sHhZiPt9BTJs+Rs0NUw50=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AHLVfk9vJVlvGN3KTDoODtX2O2l2dJUDNAMOnJbdOID3LfNwG2prJz17jaw7+9/yNSVPP8M1LaTMmMTA3IB1mMrY2boD6fG1yEbODLmIIIv9MjHKVRQLkcpuLluS/Ls6+4+ZSbJpOLRZHncOJ4H7zn4KXwl4x17icbOd5UakT5U= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ut3MPz/VACztHUKBEpupQa6m02V/fIO5NZTfrf7PpIgBZJU+l9KeLdNTTKtGl9G8AswmAIV3e6QhVxJMiGtGCydLoUjcvzIRc2i+KmuKbAwPgk9CKRGSS84IM6azs+kTGbJHBrHECP1hJFYSa6nBNoi2wjDx/nAYvF5a8XYVtJE=; Message-ID: <708223.60157.qm@web88305.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aSoyupYVM1l5muCqOI1t5lXlVZXFU2Kv_vZVJvP3QkNPmZAFU76b2H0rlCyYuK4sn931YhJOwtDX6iEVUBJeaBkp7HVxkTHcJTZ2XJTbXvf_yB1sU.V8c4BztlitddpzBuc3K11MUX2GU6bm1FziytwFFmAW87pnWxyb6dQ0JtM3d7lsQvt6x.gJiziNmPSx3Bc1idL_eGHeYfxkt1Gk9vgevF56EeLozcjirfdNOU2LInKiv_Ipue2VElFnMHmMFAY0lbBjYSVy48v4yWANPCQ.KcZuKeyr1c47M65M0xqM.Dd3zl2sbL6C13IzI.vri9k.oqdktD0rvbJ0P.mYAJuE6J5aijnPKaYHw50J_6NPPPFi.97NzELfvxjXilIub289GxJNnTVdxanY X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/211.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:59:00 -0800 (PST) From: JASON CASKENTTE Subject: New videos from my very first two house concerts!!! To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2018702745-1259247540=:60157" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:59:01 +0000 (UTC) --0-2018702745-1259247540=:60157 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here=E2=80=99s some raw footage of me looping it live with a house full of = friends over two different parties(I have a small house).=0A=C2=A0=0AStyle:= definitely original, =C2=A0Beck(ish), Brit pop, hints of Raga, Jazz, and d= isco etc...=C2=A0 =0A=C2=A0=0AI use an EDP/FCB1010 set up, and I=E2=80=99m = sure you=E2=80=99ll recognize the other instruments.=0A=C2=A0=0AWatch and l= isten and let me know what you think of these songs (not the videos my wife= took those and I=E2=80=99m working on getting a new camera person)=C2=A0 = =0A=C2=A0=0AHeart Noise http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbWO3HyR-V1I=0A=C2= =A0=0AAux Function http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DCTDLi2sMw3E=0A=C2=A0=0A= As One http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6mEPXXgmhM8=0A=C2=A0=0ALetters Sign= ed Paul http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpbTcU1MqL7s=0A=C2=A0=0AHope at eas= e http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEj7-mO_cV0s=0A=C2=A0=0ANoise For a Frien= d http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DliMDbzvqsB8=0A=C2=A0=0AFoster Disco http= ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DmtonkYurogA --0-2018702745-1259247540=:60157 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--0-2018702745-1259247540=:60157-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 26 15:20:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B84F53BE77; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:20:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259248840; bh=m34+qU3HI5g96wHWBJXSuF+SNs9YSgQEAonkBNxl818=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2bSIRodWDhEqp1hVu3bp0357+NAkw5y2Qd1eLXinou5z2PPmvoRAVkTaiqtfpOnqHF1gWXpb7XsMMRdNH8AgyfpzUoDZ5Z3/Y8fbB7uPktSN03zdHl+60DZ7AJ2KJCgsLPUCYsFlBJwVYN+Ls60SRSLp9Oe8VqgxwLiFDcJI9jc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Cfhu1GWtVj5xGNesCbOMRV+g90MH21R3YlR+LvwN5s50fP8sNEQ85uyXindWE1KzSOpnMJWhKSGSYy2KEg+7ptGJwjYtMDqm5cpZHfjt9r6ZtzaUueXBJFHuw/5oxJ/MSfVpBZXUSXyQ/wzVL+vkFkrmi+NsU2Uve3whHVYxgrw=; Message-ID: <352212.28967.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0xAt8aYVM1nrS.g1fJQbFPmz72.pVYY6Dhlh50H.v5eBN9yzIe8zjB231GRwguGSp3_6z1rucJKoGuD5_M7hnC8KK5_tnVH6FWM0lnP_7IOetb4RgQ82HCbutq.LHwCrMr0.OQVyfya.9vsW1Rz2lG.KSeIx_24QLbUDQrzALnz8TojO4ybaCc5tRy1dHu9BoIlak4wo.S9Wfq3q5F36WuVbYxowrAY4bqY4R5gPoAIvq70NIoTWg0l.Cv1uCheTjKVbLNMBFRgbSCh4NilO9LfhfMIy02E.5HXVLjG8zEI5q3OxLiMA62W8FlYxK0DmprMZZmczM3bEVmCzn7ov9ctsp3M- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:20:40 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4B0E7ED0.5070705@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <17hv4B.A.SdC.JzpDLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:20:41 +0000 (UTC) Hi Andy,=0Auff after 3 days with this thing i found it!!!=0Ai went and gave= all of the functions a note off comand and they all work now without inter= fiering with each other,dont ask me why the virtual ones didnt need a note = off and the direct midi do,beyond me!=0AI even called Jeff and went through= it together but he never mentioned to me sending a note off,i guess becaus= e the virtual midi notes were working he also assumed it was something else= on my inability to program it.=0AYet the sustain ones still arent working = at all and is triggering other functions but i will give your advice a try = using CC=B4s and get back to you.=0Athere is another thing that bothers me = with this footcontroller, if i tap really fast is not as responsive as the = fcb1010 and it skips some of the foot taps,yes is very new on the market an= d it is updatable with a software editor.I must admit that Jeff is a very n= ice guy as well but i think hes up to his eye balls and cannot answer email= s or calls right away so u are lucky if u catch him.=0ABut yes the manual p= lain sucks as usual!=0Ato be continued=0Acheers=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisan= gulocom=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A--- andy butler = schrieb am Do, 26.11.2009:=0A=0A> Von: andy butler = =0A> Betreff: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP h= elp!=0A> An: "LD" =0A> Datum: Donnerst= ag, 26. November 2009, 5:12=0A> Hi Luis,=0A> Well, probably the next thing = to try is to contact the=0A> Liquid Foot guys.=0A> (if you didn't already).= =0A> Tell them you need each switch to send a Note-On when it's=0A> pressed= ,=0A> and a Note-Off when it's released.=0A> ...and nothing else.=0A> Perha= ps explain you do something called "live looping",=0A> that a lot of people= =0A> do that, and that they have special needs as regards midi=0A> pedals.= =0A> I'd expect them to be really helpful, and they may update=0A> their so= ftware.=0A> (Is your unit updatable?)=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> The manual hardly = mentions Note-On at all, maybe their=0A> implementation is=0A> a bit weird.= (it seems so, you might try hooking up a midi=0A> sound module=0A> with an= organ type sound and see if that sustains while the=0A> switch is held)=0A= > Actually, the manual looks unfinished...they didn't do the=0A> midi imple= mentation=0A> chart yet!=0A> =0A> =0A> Another option is to try CC commands= instead.=0A> The liquid certainly seems to have a "momentary"=0A> option f= or those, designed to keep an effect switched=0A> on while you hold the swi= tch down.=0A> =0A> page 64 in the manual (and maybe some earlier pages)=0A>= tells how you can just program in a CC value (same as EDP=0A> note number)= =0A> and have the switch send 127 on that CC on press, and 0 on=0A> release= .=0A> =0A> hope you get looping,soon=0A> =0A> andy=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> = L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >> But as i said its only working for the virtual=0A> c= omands=0A> >> and not the direct midi ones and is driving me=0A> crazy!=0A>= >>=0A> >> huh, 62 General reset *is* a Direct Midi.=0A> >> ..and that's a = "voila"=0A> > =0A> > Hi Andy im still having problems with this and i dont= =0A> know if its me or the controller but i need to know=0A> otherwise i th= ink im going to return it.=0A> > heres the deal,why is it that the behringe= r functions=0A> perfectly and this one doesnt? on the behringer i just give= =0A> the note number regardless if its a virtual midi or direct=0A> midi an= d it works!=0A> > with the liquid foot only the virtual ones work but i=0A>= cannot get "general reset" (62) or any of the other ones to=0A> work! ive = tried everything,setting the switch=0A> momentary,stomp tap tempo etc.=0A> = > =0A> >> Is it possible that you mean other Direct Midi's=0A> aren't=0A> >= > working?=0A> >> If they were SUS commands then that makes sense,=0A> and = ties=0A> >> in with=0A> >> your observation that longpress on Record (to gi= ve=0A> Reset)=0A> >> isn't working. =0A> >=A0 =0A> > all im entering is the= note number and the data value=0A> of 127 and nothing else!=0A> > But i ha= ve discovered something:=0A> > when i reset the echoplex by holding and pre= ssing the=0A> record button ,then when i send the general reset comand=0A> = from the liquid foot it seems to triger it,but then when i=0A> use the reco= rd button it doesnt work anymore!it also seems=0A> to put the edp in a weir= d mode,that is when i try to reset=0A> it by holding and pressing th record= button it seems as if=0A> it was locked and then i press it a second time = and it=0A> resets,any ideas? ive been even thinking of sending it to=0A> yo= u so you can check it out but i dont know if that would be=0A> ok with you,= plus you could do a comparison between the=0A> gordius and this one;-)=0A> = > thanx for your always great help man i really=0A> apreciate it!=0A> > =0A= > > =0A> >> My guess is that your controller is sending=0A> >> Note-On/Note= -Off pairs on=0A> >> pressing the switch, not waiting for you to=0A> releas= e it=0A> >> before sending the Note-Off.=0A> >>=0A> >> So, the Direct Midi = SUS commands will not be=0A> audible.=0A> >> (e.g. SUS Reverse would revers= e for such a small=0A> time that=0A> >> you wouldn't perceive it)=0A> >>=A0= =0A> >>=0A> >> I had a look at the manual for your controller,=0A> it=0A> = >> describes a number=0A> >> of "button modes".=0A> >> One of those is "Mom= entary while Holding"=0A> >> ....that's what you want.=0A> >> (or whatever = causes the Note-Off to be sent as=0A> you=0A> >> *release* the switch)=0A> = > =0A> > tried that but nothing either...=0A> >> hope that helps=0A> >>=0A>= >> andy=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>= >> andy=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>> cheers=0A> >= >>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> >>>>>=0A> >>>>>=0A> >>>>> --- andy b= utler =0A> >>>> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:=0A> >>>>= >> Von: andy butler =0A> >>>>>> Betreff: Re: progra= ming liquid=0A> foot jr.=0A> >> midi=0A> >>>> footcontroller with EDP help!= =0A> >>>>>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> >>>>>> Datum: Monta= g, 23. November 2009,=0A> 10:46=0A> >>>>>> what Per said for the DirectMidi= .=0A> >>>>>>=0A> >>>>>> They only require Note-On (except=0A> for=0A> >> SU= S)=0A> >>>>>> To get the longpress(to make reset=0A> work)=0A> >> I'd try= =0A> >>>> changing=0A> >>>>>> the Button Mode to "Momentary=0A> while=0A> >= > Holding".=0A> >>>>>>=0A> >>>>>> I don't understand where you=0A> entered= =0A> >> "64".=0A> >>>>>> andy=0A> >>>>>> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >>>>>>> hi gan= g,=0A> >>>>>>> i just got the litte liquid=0A> foot midi=0A> >>>> controlle= r and=0A> >>>>>> im having a hard time controlling=0A> the EDP=0A> >> as i = did=0A> >>>> with the=0A> >>>>>> behringer.=0A> >>>>>>> So far ive manage t= o program=0A> the=0A> >> virtual=0A> >>>> functions=0A> >>>>>> like=0A> >>>= >>>> record=0A> >>>>>>> overdub=0A> >>>>>>> multiply=0A> >>>>>>> mute=0A> >= >>>>>> undo=0A> >>>>>>> next=0A> >>>>>>> reverse=0A> >>>>>>> half speed=0A>= >>>>>>>=0A> >>>>>>> the way i have to do this is=0A> giving=0A> >> the "no= te=0A> >>>> on"=0A> >>>>>> offset number and a value of 64=0A> and it=0A> >= > works=0A> >>>> fine.=0A> >>>>>>> However when i try to program=0A> any of= =0A> >> the e=0A> >>>> DirectMidi=0A> >>>>>> functions it does not respond = at=0A> all,do i=0A> >> have to=0A> >>>> send=0A> >>>>>> additional comands = for them to=0A> function? i=0A> >> recall=0A> >>>> on the=0A> >>>>>> behrin= ger fcb1010 i just gave the=0A> note=0A> >> number and=0A> >>>> it=0A> >>>>= >> worked.=0A> >>>>>>> The otherr thing that is not=0A> working=0A> >> is= =0A> >>>> erasing the=0A> >>>>>> loop by holding and pressing the=0A> recor= d=0A> >> button.=0A> >>>>>>> Anyway if u midi experts could=0A> take a=0A> = >> little=0A> >>>> time to=0A> >>>>>> help me id be really thankfull!=0A> >= >>>>>> here is the liquid foot jr=0A> manual:=0A> >>>>>>>=0A> >>>>>>> http:= //www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml=0A> >>>>>>>=0A> >>>>>>> Thanx=0A> >>>= >>>> cheers=0A> >>>>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> >>>>>>>=0A> >>>>>= >>=0A> >>=0A> __________________________________________________=0A> >>>>>>= > Do You Yahoo!?=0A> >>>>>>> Sie sind Spam leid? 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Mail verf=FC= gt =FCber einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. =0Ahttp://mail.yah= oo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 26 17:37:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 600733BE72; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:37:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259257023; bh=WleGEDJ5apSflY4Auljd2zM6/vIN8asvSnX9VjfRuO0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HxGILwtK3Au0+Ln05hV7dJSPQQSzL6FDpNCoLomHr5x2+ZxKmC8YzkL09GeIIjjmxxcPyk+3WCGOk8hQNzGLou7+s95Uj1E2hjz/DmwjqN+XaKU8V/CQHRNoOgXp87bNqDPb4jMHd0f0GGfIuUovMUEP1re1nfBixUfLMqf5yHU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=D+ZsWcYPh8YTBM60JxVP+ZTKJA+QdT67oG1QZAXT6BUkfJPxdwfZizTD9mQDc1WxMpJoNB1Bs1zLATseVlEiZtbmgOCNrkFQfe0H/nyCVFkI8fQEQ3eJVUsq9MY+y0r1cpx5qshCW7m+F0v9vZgzwkGTTlCm1alJIIkIT/rHy/Q=; Message-ID: <987048.77164.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: FrkaXEMVM1kvHy9vZ_cuWRKNZDQFAG99siIdSZGoZ4dl2O0ZCAnzmtCpN0pzS6SWBijItsfG4ksMKU8xztvxyO7tjNz857TsW25DGkxD24jD3y5j4mJ9MqdeAhTox46lZrLJ7HDzhkA3N0Tunr1MJjQ63JPSJ3D9KCiXg0gjqm5YUp0mJfC9HvCB5pArVgmjhofwU7xEhJJ.GeDB2Xug7yFJjMIbp5853MDC8cLU8hXvIRigUk_AVcGY2grwEnj_yCO4X1bsbgGldE5Qirl3R1Kj4iafU5rcwxYcoCS2eOZM1EGXmRLTwOCsfEI7435WEEPn1Wh3tEg- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:37:03 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4B0E7ED0.5070705@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <44Cn5.A.ohH.BzrDLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:37:05 +0000 (UTC) ok,so the EDP will accept CCs to tirgger the direct Sus comands,right?=0Ai = did everything just using notes... i hope it does!=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A= > Another option is to try CC commands instead.=0A> The liquid certainly se= ems to have a "momentary"=0A> option for those, designed to keep an effect = switched=0A> on while you hold the switch down.=0A> =0A> page 64 in the man= ual (and maybe some earlier pages)=0A> tells how you can just program in a = CC value (same as EDP=0A> note number)=0A> and have the switch send 127 on = that CC on press, and 0 on=0A> release.=0A> =0A> hope you get looping,soon= =0A> =0A> andy=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >> But as i said= its only working for the virtual=0A> comands=0A> >> and not the direct mid= i ones and is driving me=0A> crazy!=0A> >>=0A> >> huh, 62 General reset *is= * a Direct Midi.=0A> >> ..and that's a "voila"=0A> > =0A> > Hi Andy im stil= l having problems with this and i dont=0A> know if its me or the controller= but i need to know=0A> otherwise i think im going to return it.=0A> > here= s the deal,why is it that the behringer functions=0A> perfectly and this on= e doesnt? on the behringer i just give=0A> the note number regardless if it= s a virtual midi or direct=0A> midi and it works!=0A> > with the liquid foo= t only the virtual ones work but i=0A> cannot get "general reset" (62) or a= ny of the other ones to=0A> work! ive tried everything,setting the switch= =0A> momentary,stomp tap tempo etc.=0A> > =0A> >> Is it possible that you m= ean other Direct Midi's=0A> aren't=0A> >> working?=0A> >> If they were SUS = commands then that makes sense,=0A> and ties=0A> >> in with=0A> >> your obs= ervation that longpress on Record (to give=0A> Reset)=0A> >> isn't working.= =0A> >=A0 =0A> > all im entering is the note number and the data value=0A>= of 127 and nothing else!=0A> > But i have discovered something:=0A> > when= i reset the echoplex by holding and pressing the=0A> record button ,then w= hen i send the general reset comand=0A> from the liquid foot it seems to tr= iger it,but then when i=0A> use the record button it doesnt work anymore!it= also seems=0A> to put the edp in a weird mode,that is when i try to reset= =0A> it by holding and pressing th record button it seems as if=0A> it was = locked and then i press it a second time and it=0A> resets,any ideas? ive b= een even thinking of sending it to=0A> you so you can check it out but i do= nt know if that would be=0A> ok with you,plus you could do a comparison bet= ween the=0A> gordius and this one;-)=0A> > thanx for your always great help= man i really=0A> apreciate it!=0A> > =0A> > =0A> >> My guess is that your = controller is sending=0A> >> Note-On/Note-Off pairs on=0A> >> pressing the = switch, not waiting for you to=0A> release it=0A> >> before sending the Not= e-Off.=0A> >>=0A> >> So, the Direct Midi SUS commands will not be=0A> audib= le.=0A> >> (e.g. SUS Reverse would reverse for such a small=0A> time that= =0A> >> you wouldn't perceive it)=0A> >>=A0 =0A> >>=0A> >> I had a look at = the manual for your controller,=0A> it=0A> >> describes a number=0A> >> of = "button modes".=0A> >> One of those is "Momentary while Holding"=0A> >> ...= .that's what you want.=0A> >> (or whatever causes the Note-Off to be sent a= s=0A> you=0A> >> *release* the switch)=0A> > =0A> > tried that but nothing = either...=0A> >> hope that helps=0A> >>=0A> >> andy=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A= > >>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>> andy=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>= >>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>> cheers=0A> >>>>> www.myspace.com/luisanguloc= om=0A> >>>>>=0A> >>>>>=0A> >>>>> --- andy butler = =0A> >>>> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:=0A> >>>>>> Von: andy butler =0A> >>>>>> Betreff: Re: programing liquid=0A> foot jr.=0A> >= > midi=0A> >>>> footcontroller with EDP help!=0A> >>>>>> An: Loopers-Deligh= t@loopers-delight.com=0A> >>>>>> Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009,=0A> 10:4= 6=0A> >>>>>> what Per said for the DirectMidi.=0A> >>>>>>=0A> >>>>>> They o= nly require Note-On (except=0A> for=0A> >> SUS)=0A> >>>>>> To get the longp= ress(to make reset=0A> work)=0A> >> I'd try=0A> >>>> changing=0A> >>>>>> th= e Button Mode to "Momentary=0A> while=0A> >> Holding".=0A> >>>>>>=0A> >>>>>= > I don't understand where you=0A> entered=0A> >> "64".=0A> >>>>>> andy=0A>= >>>>>> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >>>>>>> hi gang,=0A> >>>>>>> i just got the lit= te liquid=0A> foot midi=0A> >>>> controller and=0A> >>>>>> im having a hard= time controlling=0A> the EDP=0A> >> as i did=0A> >>>> with the=0A> >>>>>> = behringer.=0A> >>>>>>> So far ive manage to program=0A> the=0A> >> virtual= =0A> >>>> functions=0A> >>>>>> like=0A> >>>>>>> record=0A> >>>>>>> overdub= =0A> >>>>>>> multiply=0A> >>>>>>> mute=0A> >>>>>>> undo=0A> >>>>>>> next=0A= > >>>>>>> reverse=0A> >>>>>>> half speed=0A> >>>>>>>=0A> >>>>>>> the way i = have to do this is=0A> giving=0A> >> the "note=0A> >>>> on"=0A> >>>>>> offs= et number and a value of 64=0A> and it=0A> >> works=0A> >>>> fine.=0A> >>>>= >>> However when i try to program=0A> any of=0A> >> the e=0A> >>>> DirectMi= di=0A> >>>>>> functions it does not respond at=0A> all,do i=0A> >> have to= =0A> >>>> send=0A> >>>>>> additional comands for them to=0A> function? i=0A= > >> recall=0A> >>>> on the=0A> >>>>>> behringer fcb1010 i just gave the=0A= > note=0A> >> number and=0A> >>>> it=0A> >>>>>> worked.=0A> >>>>>>> The oth= err thing that is not=0A> working=0A> >> is=0A> >>>> erasing the=0A> >>>>>>= loop by holding and pressing the=0A> record=0A> >> button.=0A> >>>>>>> Any= way if u midi experts could=0A> take a=0A> >> little=0A> >>>> time to=0A> >= >>>>> help me id be really thankfull!=0A> >>>>>>> here is the liquid foot j= r=0A> manual:=0A> >>>>>>>=0A> >>>>>>> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.= shtml=0A> >>>>>>>=0A> >>>>>>> Thanx=0A> >>>>>>> cheers=0A> >>>>>>> www.mysp= ace.com/luisangulocom=0A> >>>>>>>=0A> >>>>>>>=0A> >>=0A> __________________= ________________________________=0A> >>>>>>> Do You Yahoo!?=0A> >>>>>>> Sie= sind Spam leid? Yahoo!=0A> Mail=0A> >> verf=FCgt =FCber=0A> >>>> einen=0A>= >>>>>> herausragenden Schutz gegen=0A> Massenmails.=0A> >> http://mail.yah= oo.com =0A> >>=0A> __________________________________________________=0A> >= >>>> Do You Yahoo!?=0A> >>>>> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail=0A> verf=FCgt= =FCber=0A> >> einen=0A> >>>> herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails.=0A> = http://mail.yahoo.com =0A> >>>>=0A> >>>=0A> _______________________________= ___________________=0A> >>> Do You Yahoo!?=0A> >>> Sie sind Spam leid? Yaho= o! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber=0A> einen=0A> >> herausragenden Schutz gegen Masse= nmails. =0A> >>> http://mail.yahoo.com =0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>=0A> > =0A> >= __________________________________________________=0A> > Do You Yahoo!?=0A= > > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen=0A> herausragend= en Schutz gegen Massenmails. =0A> > http://mail.yahoo.com =0A> > =0A> =0A> = =0A=0A__________________________________________________=0ADo You Yahoo!?= =0ASie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausragenden Sc= hutz gegen Massenmails. =0Ahttp://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 26 17:46:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABB373BE81; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:46:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4246 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:46:56 UTC Message-Id: <2F0335BB-891A-49FD-BBED-6253A71D3AD0@glasswing.com> From: richard sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4B0E4A2F.8030201@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--374194825 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:36:02 -0800 References: <970220.56043.qm@web110217.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4B0E4A2F.8030201@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <9tvUVB.A.h5H.Q8rDLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:46:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--374194825 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've always used an old (black) Sennheiser 421. You can fiddle with the pad on it for different tone. And, like the SM57, you can also use it as a jack hammer in a pinch! I use that into a Daking Mic Pre IV. Paul Smith recommended the Daking. Having said that I haven't tried the Royer 121 that lots of guys use. I bet it sounds really good. Also fun to put a mic on the front and back of cabinet if open cabinet. Have to watch for phase issues. I used a Neumann TLM103 on the back and the Sennheiser on the front and you can sort of tune your sound from dark (back) to brighter (front) using this method. Didn't use this on the latest record, though. Can't go wrong with 57s though. Many big hit records have been made with them on guitar cabinets. Most important, have fun! richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.goodnaturefarms.com On Nov 26, 2009, at 1:28 AM, andy butler wrote: > Depends where you want to use it. > ...and the effect you wanna get. > > The SM57 has been mentioned as it's often used in studios > for that purpose, and it's cheap. It'll get the job done. > ...but it has drawbacks > 1) Shure mics are inconsistent to an extent that's unusual in > a mic considered to be a standard. There's a lot of variation > in how they sound. (to be fair, part of that's down to their > reputation for robustness...they tend not to get looked after, > then they degrade) > 2) A mic that colors the sound so considerably works best if it's > only used for > one or two elements in your final mix. > 3) It's not a good option as an all round mic, in case you wanted to > use it other stuff too. > 4) If you want to try the mic at a further distance from the amp > to capture ambience, and get an alternative tone for recording, then > a less colored mic would be better. > > Of course, none of those drawbacks is necessarily a deal breaker. > > An alternative would be a decent small diaphragm condenser, something > by Rode, Octava, Beyer Dynamic. That would give you a more accurate > representation of the amp (not necessarily what you want), and > could be also be used for recording more or less anything. > > Make sure you spend time finding the best mic placement, that > makes all the difference. Distance, position and angle. > My favourite is to use a condenser about an inch away on the edge of > the speaker cone. > > andy butler > > > > Paul Richards wrote: >> Hello: >> In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output >> capability to route the signal to a looper, recording device, et >> al. I'm about to get a small wattage Marshall (Class5 - 5W) with >> no output feature which means I will have to mike it up. Any >> suggestions on a reasonably priced microphone? THX! >> Regards, Paul > --Apple-Mail-2--374194825 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've always used an old (black) = Sennheiser 421.  You can fiddle with the pad on it for different = tone.  And, like the SM57, you can also use it as a jack hammer in = a pinch! I use that into a Daking Mic Pre IV. Paul Smith recommended the = Daking.

Having said that I haven't tried the Royer = 121 that lots of guys use.  I bet it sounds really = good. 

Also fun to put a mic on the front = and back of cabinet if open cabinet.  Have to watch for phase = issues.  I used a Neumann TLM103 on the back and the Sennheiser on = the front and you can sort of tune your sound from dark (back) to = brighter (front) using this method.  Didn't use this on the latest = record, though.  

Can't go wrong with 57s = though.  Many big hit records have been made with them on guitar = cabinets. 

Most important, have = fun!

richard sales
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
= www.goodnaturefarms.com=








On Nov 26, = 2009, at 1:28 AM, andy butler wrote:

Depends= where you want to use it.
...and the effect you wanna = get.

The SM57 has been mentioned as it's often used in = studios
for that purpose, and it's cheap. It'll get the job = done.
...but it has drawbacks
1) Shure mics are inconsistent to an = extent that's unusual in
 a mic considered to be a standard. = There's a lot of variation
  in how they sound. (to be = fair, part of that's down to their
  reputation for = robustness...they tend not to get looked after, then they degrade)
2) = A mic that colors the sound so considerably works best if it's only used = for
 one or two elements in your final mix.
3) It's not a = good option as an all round mic, in case you wanted to
=   use it other stuff too.
4) If you want to try the mic at = a further distance from the amp
 to capture ambience, and get = an alternative tone for recording, then
 a less colored mic = would be better.

Of course, none of those drawbacks is = necessarily a deal breaker.

An alternative would be a decent = small diaphragm condenser, something
by Rode, Octava, Beyer Dynamic. = That would give you a more accurate
representation of the amp (not = necessarily what you want), and
could be also be used for recording = more or less anything.

Make sure you spend time finding the best = mic placement, that
makes all the difference. Distance, position and = angle.
My favourite is to use a condenser about an inch away on the = edge of the speaker cone.

andy butler



Paul = Richards wrote:
Hello:
In the = past, I've always had guitar amps with some output capability to route = the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm about to get a = small wattage Marshall (Class5 -  5W) with no output feature which = means I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced = microphone? THX!
Regards, = Paul


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One of many things to be thankful for! -Kevin www.Myspace.com/KevinSpears Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 26 18:25:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73D333BE73; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes References: <987048.77164.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-id: <6959FFB9-9107-4207-82A8-1AAFC6568D17@mac.com> From: Daniel Berkman To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-reply-to: <987048.77164.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7D11) Subject: Happy Thanksgiving! Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:25:30 -0800 Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Happy Thanksgiving fellow loopers! Let us give thanks for such a community and for such miraculous gear!!! Cheers, Daniel Berkman (aka. Colfax) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKOkpb_fj_uA&feature=3Dyoutube_gdata Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2009, at 9:37 AM, "L.Angulo" wrote: > ok,so the EDP will accept CCs to tirgger the direct Sus comands,right? > i did everything just using notes... i hope it does! > Luis > > > > > >> Another option is to try CC commands instead. >> The liquid certainly seems to have a "momentary" >> option for those, designed to keep an effect switched >> on while you hold the switch down. >> >> page 64 in the manual (and maybe some earlier pages) >> tells how you can just program in a CC value (same as EDP >> note number) >> and have the switch send 127 on that CC on press, and 0 on >> release. >> >> hope you get looping,soon >> >> andy >> >> >> >> >> L.Angulo wrote: >>>> But as i said its only working for the virtual >> comands >>>> and not the direct midi ones and is driving me >> crazy! >>>> >>>> huh, 62 General reset *is* a Direct Midi. >>>> ..and that's a "voila" >>> >>> Hi Andy im still having problems with this and i dont >> know if its me or the controller but i need to know >> otherwise i think im going to return it. >>> heres the deal,why is it that the behringer functions >> perfectly and this one doesnt? on the behringer i just give >> the note number regardless if its a virtual midi or direct >> midi and it works! >>> with the liquid foot only the virtual ones work but i >> cannot get "general reset" (62) or any of the other ones to >> work! ive tried everything,setting the switch >> momentary,stomp tap tempo etc. >>> >>>> Is it possible that you mean other Direct Midi's >> aren't >>>> working? >>>> If they were SUS commands then that makes sense, >> and ties >>>> in with >>>> your observation that longpress on Record (to give >> Reset) >>>> isn't working. >>> >>> all im entering is the note number and the data value >> of 127 and nothing else! >>> But i have discovered something: >>> when i reset the echoplex by holding and pressing the >> record button ,then when i send the general reset comand >> from the liquid foot it seems to triger it,but then when i >> use the record button it doesnt work anymore!it also seems >> to put the edp in a weird mode,that is when i try to reset >> it by holding and pressing th record button it seems as if >> it was locked and then i press it a second time and it >> resets,any ideas? ive been even thinking of sending it to >> you so you can check it out but i dont know if that would be >> ok with you,plus you could do a comparison between the >> gordius and this one;-) >>> thanx for your always great help man i really >> apreciate it! >>> >>> >>>> My guess is that your controller is sending >>>> Note-On/Note-Off pairs on >>>> pressing the switch, not waiting for you to >> release it >>>> before sending the Note-Off. >>>> >>>> So, the Direct Midi SUS commands will not be >> audible. >>>> (e.g. SUS Reverse would reverse for such a small >> time that >>>> you wouldn't perceive it) >>>> >>>> >>>> I had a look at the manual for your controller, >> it >>>> describes a number >>>> of "button modes". >>>> One of those is "Momentary while Holding" >>>> ....that's what you want. >>>> (or whatever causes the Note-Off to be sent as >> you >>>> *release* the switch) >>> >>> tried that but nothing either... >>>> hope that helps >>>> >>>> andy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> andy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> cheers >>>>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- andy butler >>>>>> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009: >>>>>>>> Von: andy butler >>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: programing liquid >> foot jr. >>>> midi >>>>>> footcontroller with EDP help! >>>>>>>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>>>>>> Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009, >> 10:46 >>>>>>>> what Per said for the DirectMidi. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They only require Note-On (except >> for >>>> SUS) >>>>>>>> To get the longpress(to make reset >> work) >>>> I'd try >>>>>> changing >>>>>>>> the Button Mode to "Momentary >> while >>>> Holding". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't understand where you >> entered >>>> "64". >>>>>>>> andy >>>>>>>> L.Angulo wrote: >>>>>>>>> hi gang, >>>>>>>>> i just got the litte liquid >> foot midi >>>>>> controller and >>>>>>>> im having a hard time controlling >> the EDP >>>> as i did >>>>>> with the >>>>>>>> behringer. >>>>>>>>> So far ive manage to program >> the >>>> virtual >>>>>> functions >>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>> record >>>>>>>>> overdub >>>>>>>>> multiply >>>>>>>>> mute >>>>>>>>> undo >>>>>>>>> next >>>>>>>>> reverse >>>>>>>>> half speed >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the way i have to do this is >> giving >>>> the "note >>>>>> on" >>>>>>>> offset number and a value of 64 >> and it >>>> works >>>>>> fine. >>>>>>>>> However when i try to program >> any of >>>> the e >>>>>> DirectMidi >>>>>>>> functions it does not respond at >> all,do i >>>> have to >>>>>> send >>>>>>>> additional comands for them to >> function? i >>>> recall >>>>>> on the >>>>>>>> behringer fcb1010 i just gave the >> note >>>> number and >>>>>> it >>>>>>>> worked. >>>>>>>>> The otherr thing that is not >> working >>>> is >>>>>> erasing the >>>>>>>> loop by holding and pressing the >> record >>>> button. >>>>>>>>> Anyway if u midi experts could >> take a >>>> little >>>>>> time to >>>>>>>> help me id be really thankfull! >>>>>>>>> here is the liquid foot jr >> manual: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanx >>>>>>>>> cheers >>>>>>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> >> __________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Do You Yahoo!? >>>>>>>>> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! >> Mail >>>> verf=C3=BCgt =C3=BCber >>>>>> einen >>>>>>>> herausragenden Schutz gegen >> Massenmails. >>>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>>> >> __________________________________________________ >>>>>>> Do You Yahoo!? >>>>>>> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail >> verf=C3=BCgt =C3=BCber >>>> einen >>>>>> herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. >> http://mail.yahoo.com >>>>>> >>>>> >> __________________________________________________ >>>>> Do You Yahoo!? >>>>> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=C3=BCgt =C3=BCber >> einen >>>> herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. >>>>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=C3=BCgt =C3=BCber einen >> herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. >>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>> >> >> > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=C3=BCgt =C3=BCber einen = herausragenden Sc=20 > hutz gegen Massenmails. > http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 26 19:27:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E47373BE77; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 294039314/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.252.149/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.252.149 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At8BABdlDktPRvyV/2dsb2JhbAAIkCaJFrtVgjGCAAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,295,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="294039314" Message-ID: <4B0ED6A5.9030300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:27:33 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help! References: <987048.77164.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <987048.77164.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <5SwK8.A.fZD.natDLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:27:35 +0000 (UTC) hi Luis, yep, the EDP will repond in the same way to CC with 127 and 0 data values as it would to Note-On Note-Off. Just set EDP param ControlSource = Ctr You'll have to re-program everything to CC , but I think it'll work. The Liquid actually has a parameter to stop it responding "too fast". That's why you miss some button presses. "Button Delay", p67 in the manual should fix this. Personally, I'd wanna check the latency on the buttons, latency tends to creep up as features are added, sometimes no-one notices. When I first got the Gordius it had a problem in this respect.. ...Xavier fixed it pretty quickly. You should ask that the firmware be updated to handle simple Note-On/Note-Off,.....essential if you want to use it to play synth notes. Sometimes hardware creators only imagine their devices being used for certain tasks. You don't need Note-on to control a guitar rig, so the feature perhaps never got tested. That's why it's important for users to feedback about their experiences.. a good manufacturer will take it very seriously. Is there a "liquid Foot" forum? or a Yahoo Group? ...there should be. andy L.Angulo wrote: > ok,so the EDP will accept CCs to tirgger the direct Sus comands,right? > i did everything just using notes... i hope it does! > Luis > > > > > >> Another option is to try CC commands instead. >> The liquid certainly seems to have a "momentary" >> option for those, designed to keep an effect switched >> on while you hold the switch down. >> >> page 64 in the manual (and maybe some earlier pages) >> tells how you can just program in a CC value (same as EDP >> note number) >> and have the switch send 127 on that CC on press, and 0 on >> release. >> >> hope you get looping,soon >> >> andy >> >> >> >> >> L.Angulo wrote: >>>> But as i said its only working for the virtual >> comands >>>> and not the direct midi ones and is driving me >> crazy! >>>> huh, 62 General reset *is* a Direct Midi. >>>> ..and that's a "voila" >>> Hi Andy im still having problems with this and i dont >> know if its me or the controller but i need to know >> otherwise i think im going to return it. >>> heres the deal,why is it that the behringer functions >> perfectly and this one doesnt? on the behringer i just give >> the note number regardless if its a virtual midi or direct >> midi and it works! >>> with the liquid foot only the virtual ones work but i >> cannot get "general reset" (62) or any of the other ones to >> work! ive tried everything,setting the switch >> momentary,stomp tap tempo etc. >>>> Is it possible that you mean other Direct Midi's >> aren't >>>> working? >>>> If they were SUS commands then that makes sense, >> and ties >>>> in with >>>> your observation that longpress on Record (to give >> Reset) >>>> isn't working. >>> >>> all im entering is the note number and the data value >> of 127 and nothing else! >>> But i have discovered something: >>> when i reset the echoplex by holding and pressing the >> record button ,then when i send the general reset comand >> from the liquid foot it seems to triger it,but then when i >> use the record button it doesnt work anymore!it also seems >> to put the edp in a weird mode,that is when i try to reset >> it by holding and pressing th record button it seems as if >> it was locked and then i press it a second time and it >> resets,any ideas? ive been even thinking of sending it to >> you so you can check it out but i dont know if that would be >> ok with you,plus you could do a comparison between the >> gordius and this one;-) >>> thanx for your always great help man i really >> apreciate it! >>> >>>> My guess is that your controller is sending >>>> Note-On/Note-Off pairs on >>>> pressing the switch, not waiting for you to >> release it >>>> before sending the Note-Off. >>>> >>>> So, the Direct Midi SUS commands will not be >> audible. >>>> (e.g. SUS Reverse would reverse for such a small >> time that >>>> you wouldn't perceive it) >>>> >>>> >>>> I had a look at the manual for your controller, >> it >>>> describes a number >>>> of "button modes". >>>> One of those is "Momentary while Holding" >>>> ....that's what you want. >>>> (or whatever causes the Note-Off to be sent as >> you >>>> *release* the switch) >>> tried that but nothing either... >>>> hope that helps >>>> >>>> andy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> andy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> cheers >>>>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- andy butler >>>>>> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009: >>>>>>>> Von: andy butler >>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: programing liquid >> foot jr. >>>> midi >>>>>> footcontroller with EDP help! >>>>>>>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>>>>>> Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009, >> 10:46 >>>>>>>> what Per said for the DirectMidi. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They only require Note-On (except >> for >>>> SUS) >>>>>>>> To get the longpress(to make reset >> work) >>>> I'd try >>>>>> changing >>>>>>>> the Button Mode to "Momentary >> while >>>> Holding". >>>>>>>> I don't understand where you >> entered >>>> "64". >>>>>>>> andy >>>>>>>> L.Angulo wrote: >>>>>>>>> hi gang, >>>>>>>>> i just got the litte liquid >> foot midi >>>>>> controller and >>>>>>>> im having a hard time controlling >> the EDP >>>> as i did >>>>>> with the >>>>>>>> behringer. >>>>>>>>> So far ive manage to program >> the >>>> virtual >>>>>> functions >>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>> record >>>>>>>>> overdub >>>>>>>>> multiply >>>>>>>>> mute >>>>>>>>> undo >>>>>>>>> next >>>>>>>>> reverse >>>>>>>>> half speed >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the way i have to do this is >> giving >>>> the "note >>>>>> on" >>>>>>>> offset number and a value of 64 >> and it >>>> works >>>>>> fine. >>>>>>>>> However when i try to program >> any of >>>> the e >>>>>> DirectMidi >>>>>>>> functions it does not respond at >> all,do i >>>> have to >>>>>> send >>>>>>>> additional comands for them to >> function? i >>>> recall >>>>>> on the >>>>>>>> behringer fcb1010 i just gave the >> note >>>> number and >>>>>> it >>>>>>>> worked. >>>>>>>>> The otherr thing that is not >> working >>>> is >>>>>> erasing the >>>>>>>> loop by holding and pressing the >> record >>>> button. >>>>>>>>> Anyway if u midi experts could >> take a >>>> little >>>>>> time to >>>>>>>> help me id be really thankfull! >>>>>>>>> here is the liquid foot jr >> manual: >>>>>>>>> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanx >>>>>>>>> cheers >>>>>>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >> __________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Do You Yahoo!? >>>>>>>>> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! >> Mail >>>> verfügt über >>>>>> einen >>>>>>>> herausragenden Schutz gegen >> Massenmails. >>>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>>> >> __________________________________________________ >>>>>>> Do You Yahoo!? >>>>>>> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail >> verfügt über >>>> einen >>>>>> herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> __________________________________________________ >>>>> Do You Yahoo!? >>>>> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über >> einen >>>> herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. >>>>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>>>> >>>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen >> herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. >>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>> >> > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 26 21:46:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12FB93BE77; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ENkJDBY4uO5OePk6l7C9HM555udEl0/6nVJLY9yIzMc=; b=bc6ofeoEGCzbbG2H2NJxaVrQeHwUfvx4AfIvhhXzvT1aj8V3GA7xxya4ppyWPKm8/w BAee/jemaQ1Cr0Befkp+a0kLisPDspgSjjw/qtz3zeJn/bKTJOn4QS/sizcEUSJV9/Yx KW071S++xHQPyfTph6qd+Yk3zeq65ta5u0ujA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eTHzdUdjXqdgesfed8EZR21NlbBBzUOUIgLtG+968XUoM/B/4QDepK5vxPLdZwnGgc JfYN+2PfQ+/hpR53ad6lr1DtNMJD/WMtXK61LQGVk10IlGfiDbjRFq5iu3BkTZYAEhlC M9JU7QMnvEq8kJ0t1IyYK1n3I2sG7C9AEwgS8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <708223.60157.qm@web88305.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <708223.60157.qm@web88305.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:46:24 -0600 Message-ID: <2871c3a90911261346p1176035aub46360efb62c54dd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New videos from my very first two house concerts!!! From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502bc6348c8cf04794d1b6c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:46:25 +0000 (UTC) --00504502bc6348c8cf04794d1b6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Jason, I like the songs, it just takes a long time to get to them... this is a difficulty with song-form looping. One guy who does it really well, imo, i= s Andrew Bird. I heard him in Montreal earlier this year and I was quite impressed with how entertaining he is when layering parts. For example in this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwRk2iHkOcNE Notice, in the beginning of t= he song, how he's performing two parts at once, one is recorded (violin) and one is not (whistling). The performance would not have been as enjoyable had he not done that... You could've have done something similar in As one= , loop guitar while singing and start your solo right away. It doesn't necessarily add to the song, but it elevates the performance quite a bit. more Andrew Bird http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcYwUVSUd3Ko Again very good performance. What works well here I think is the order in which he decides to loop the different parts, the way the layers play off each other. This entertaining from the first note, there is no downtime... at no point does it feel like we're being taken out of the song for the necessity of looping a section. It all fits nicely together as a whole and evolves from simple to complex. Also notice how he throws in a bridge without recording any further loops (and a coda section by recording part o= f the bridge second time around and playing it back in reverse, no downtime). anyhow, things to think about, as they say, mostly things your videos made me think of. thanks for sharing and looking forward to hearing more of your playing Sylvain On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 8:59 AM, JASON CASKENTTE wr= ote: > Here=92s some raw footage of me looping it live with a house full of > friends over two different parties(I have a small house). > > > > *Style*: definitely original, Beck(ish), Brit pop, hints of Raga, Jazz, > and disco etc... > > > > I use an EDP/FCB1010 set up, and I=92m sure you=92ll recognize the other > instruments. > > ** > > Watch and listen and let me know what you think of these songs (not the > videos my wife took those and I=92m working on getting a new camera perso= n) > > > > > Heart Noise http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbWO3HyR-V1I > > > > Aux Function http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DCTDLi2sMw3E > > > > As One http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6mEPXXgmhM8 > > > > Letters Signed Paul http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpbTcU1MqL7s > > > > Hope at ease http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEj7-mO_cV0s > > > > Noise For a Friend http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DliMDbzvqsB8 > > > > Foster Disco http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DmtonkYurogA > > > > --00504502bc6348c8cf04794d1b6c Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Jason,=A0
I like the songs, it just takes a long time to get to the= m... =A0this is a difficulty with song-form looping. =A0One guy who does it= really well, imo, is Andrew Bird. =A0I heard him in Montreal earlier this = year and I was quite impressed with how=A0entertaining=A0he is when layerin= g parts.


more Andrew Bird

anyhow, things to think about, as they say, mostly thin= gs your videos made me think of. =A0
thanks for sharing and looki= ng forward to hearing more of your playing

Sylvain=

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 8:59 AM, JASON = CASKENTTE <j= caskenette@rogers.com> wrote:

Here=92s some raw footage of me looping it live with a house full o= f friends over two different parties(I have a small house).

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Style: definitely original, =A0Beck(ish), Brit pop, hints of= Raga, Jazz, and disco etc...=A0

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I use an EDP/FCB1010 set up, and I=92m sure you=92ll recognize the = other instruments.

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Watch and listen and let me know what you think of these songs (not= the videos my wife took those and I=92m working on getting a new camera pe= rson)=A0

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Heart Noise http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbWO3HyR-V1I

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Aux Function =A0

As One http= ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6mEPXXgmhM8

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Letters Signed Paul http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpbTcU1MqL7s

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Hope at ease =A0

Noise For a Friend http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DliMDbzvqsB8

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w/ Dobro Slide Bass:

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=0A=0A --0-1566167284-1259275708=:47940-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 26 23:08:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 910063BE71; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4B0F0A5E.7040601@asyouthink.com> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:08:14 -0800 From: CM User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving! References: <987048.77164.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <6959FFB9-9107-4207-82A8-1AAFC6568D17@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <6959FFB9-9107-4207-82A8-1AAFC6568D17@mac.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Yes, and for music itself! : )

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Daniel Berkman wrote:
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Let us give thanks for such a community and for such miraculous gear!!!

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On Nov 26, 2009, at 9:37 AM, "L.Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:

ok,so the EDP will accept CCs to tirgger the direct Sus comands,right?
i did everything just using notes... i hope it does!
Luis





Another option is to try CC commands instead.
The liquid certainly seems to have a "momentary"
option for those, designed to keep an effect switched
on while you hold the switch down.

page 64 in the manual (and maybe some earlier pages)
tells how you can just program in a CC value (same as EDP
note number)
and have the switch send 127 on that CC on press, and 0 on
release.

hope you get looping,soon

andy




L.Angulo wrote:
But as i said its only working for the virtual
comands
and not the direct midi ones and is driving me
crazy!

huh, 62 General reset *is* a Direct Midi.
..and that's a "voila"

Hi Andy im still having problems with this and i dont
know if its me or the controller but i need to know
otherwise i think im going to return it.
heres the deal,why is it that the behringer functions
perfectly and this one doesnt? on the behringer i just give
the note number regardless if its a virtual midi or direct
midi and it works!
with the liquid foot only the virtual ones work but i
cannot get "general reset" (62) or any of the other ones to
work! ive tried everything,setting the switch
momentary,stomp tap tempo etc.

Is it possible that you mean other Direct Midi's
aren't
working?
If they were SUS commands then that makes sense,
and ties
in with
your observation that longpress on Record (to give
Reset)
isn't working.

all im entering is the note number and the data value
of 127 and nothing else!
But i have discovered something:
when i reset the echoplex by holding and pressing the
record button ,then when i send the general reset comand
from the liquid foot it seems to triger it,but then when i
use the record button it doesnt work anymore!it also seems
to put the edp in a weird mode,that is when i try to reset
it by holding and pressing th record button it seems as if
it was locked and then i press it a second time and it
resets,any ideas? ive been even thinking of sending it to
you so you can check it out but i dont know if that would be
ok with you,plus you could do a comparison between the
gordius and this one;-)
thanx for your always great help man i really
apreciate it!


My guess is that your controller is sending
Note-On/Note-Off pairs on
pressing the switch, not waiting for you to
release it
before sending the Note-Off.

So, the Direct Midi SUS commands will not be
audible.
(e.g. SUS Reverse would reverse for such a small
time that
you wouldn't perceive it)


I had a look at the manual for your controller,
it
describes a number
of "button modes".
One of those is "Momentary while Holding"
....that's what you want.
(or whatever causes the Note-Off to be sent as
you
*release* the switch)

tried that but nothing either...
hope that helps

andy








andy





cheers
www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:
Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
Betreff: Re: programing liquid
foot jr.
midi
footcontroller with EDP help!
An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009,
10:46
what Per said for the DirectMidi.

They only require Note-On (except
for
SUS)
To get the longpress(to make reset
work)
I'd try
changing
the Button Mode to "Momentary
while
Holding".

I don't understand where you
entered
"64".
andy
L.Angulo wrote:
hi gang,
i just got the litte liquid
foot midi
controller and
im having a hard time controlling
the EDP
as i did
with the
behringer.
So far ive manage to program
the
virtual
functions
like
record
overdub
multiply
mute
undo
next
reverse
half speed

the way i have to do this is
giving
the "note
on"
offset number and a value of 64
and it
works
fine.
However when i try to program
any of
the e
DirectMidi
functions it does not respond at
all,do i
have to
send
additional comands for them to
function? i
recall
on the
behringer fcb1010 i just gave the
note
number and
it
worked.
The otherr thing that is not
working
is
erasing the
loop by holding and pressing the
record
button.
Anyway if u midi experts could
take a
little
time to
help me id be really thankfull!
here is the liquid foot jr
manual:

http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml

Thanx
cheers
www.myspace.com/luisangulocom



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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4B0ED6A5.9030300@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:29:20 +0000 (UTC) =0A> You'll have to re-program everything to CC , but I think=0A> it'll=0A>= work.=0A=0AHi Andy,=0AIm testing the EDP first direct midi function called= SUSRecord note number 50 (36 + 14)=0Aand it does somehow respond but it e= rases the loop and then there is a dot next to the loop number on the EDP s= creen and all the parameter buttons are green,any idea what that means?=0A= =0A> =0A> The Liquid actually has a parameter to stop it responding=0A> "to= o fast".=0A> That's why you miss some button presses.=0A> "Button Delay", p= 67 in the manual should fix this.=0A=0Aunfortunately it doesnt,thats the fi= rst thing i set when i got it,in fact i have it to the lowest setting and i= t still happens,everything else gets faster thoguh like scrolling through b= anks etc.=0A> =0A> Personally, I'd wanna check the latency on the buttons,= =0A> latency=0A> tends to creep up as features are added, sometimes no-one= =0A> notices.=0A=0Ayes that would be great but how can this be done??=0A=0A= > When I first got the Gordius it had a problem in this=0A> respect..=0A> .= ..Xavier fixed it pretty quickly.=0A> =0A> You should ask that the firmware= be updated to handle=0A> simple=0A> Note-On/Note-Off,.....essential if you= want to use it to=0A> play synth notes.=0A> =0A> Sometimes hardware creato= rs only imagine their devices=0A> being used for certain tasks. You don't n= eed Note-on=0A> to control a guitar rig, so the feature perhaps never got= =0A> tested.=0A> That's why it's important for users to feedback about=0A> = their=0A> experiences.. a good manufacturer will take it very=0A> seriously= .=0A> =0A> Is there a "liquid Foot" forum? or a Yahoo Group? ...there=0A> s= hould be.=0A> andy =0A=0A=0AYes,ive been posting like crazy but hardly any = responses,i dont think anybody is trying to do what im trying,as you say pr= obably most are just sending PCs and CCs with it and it seems very geared t= owards the AXE FX which in fact also has a looper.=0AI love the design of t= he unit though,it sits perfect on my pedalboard and the screen is beautiful= ,i just wish i had your midi knowledge to tell him what needs to be correct= ed because i dont think he knows the EDP at all...=0Acheers=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A= =0A> =0A=0A> =0A> =0A> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> > ok,so the EDP will accept CCs = to tirgger the direct=0A> Sus comands,right?=0A> > i did everything just us= ing notes... i hope it does!=0A> > Luis=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > = =0A> >> Another option is to try CC commands instead.=0A> >> The liquid cer= tainly seems to have a "momentary"=0A> >> option for those, designed to kee= p an effect=0A> switched=0A> >> on while you hold the switch down.=0A> >> = =0A> >> page 64 in the manual (and maybe some earlier=0A> pages)=0A> >> tel= ls how you can just program in a CC value (same=0A> as EDP=0A> >> note numb= er)=0A> >> and have the switch send 127 on that CC on press,=0A> and 0 on= =0A> >> release.=0A> >> =0A> >> hope you get looping,soon=0A> >> =0A> >> an= dy=0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >>>> But as i= said its only working for the=0A> virtual=0A> >> comands=0A> >>>> and not = the direct midi ones and is=0A> driving me=0A> >> crazy!=0A> >>>> huh, 62 G= eneral reset *is* a Direct Midi.=0A> >>>> ..and that's a "voila"=0A> >>> Hi= Andy im still having problems with this and=0A> i dont=0A> >> know if its = me or the controller but i need to=0A> know=0A> >> otherwise i think im goi= ng to return it.=0A> >>> heres the deal,why is it that the behringer=0A> fu= nctions=0A> >> perfectly and this one doesnt? on the behringer i=0A> just g= ive=0A> >> the note number regardless if its a virtual midi=0A> or direct= =0A> >> midi and it works!=0A> >>> with the liquid foot only the virtual on= es=0A> work but i=0A> >> cannot get "general reset" (62) or any of the=0A> = other ones to=0A> >> work! ive tried everything,setting the switch=0A> >> m= omentary,stomp tap tempo etc.=0A> >>>> Is it possible that you mean other D= irect=0A> Midi's=0A> >> aren't=0A> >>>> working?=0A> >>>> If they were SUS = commands then that makes=0A> sense,=0A> >> and ties=0A> >>>> in with=0A> >>= >> your observation that longpress on Record=0A> (to give=0A> >> Reset)=0A>= >>>> isn't working. =0A> >>>=A0=A0=A0all im entering is the note=0A> numbe= r and the data value=0A> >> of 127 and nothing else!=0A> >>> But i have dis= covered something:=0A> >>> when i reset the echoplex by holding and=0A> pre= ssing the=0A> >> record button ,then when i send the general reset=0A> coma= nd=0A> >> from the liquid foot it seems to triger it,but=0A> then when i=0A= > >> use the record button it doesnt work anymore!it=0A> also seems=0A> >> = to put the edp in a weird mode,that is when i try=0A> to reset=0A> >> it by= holding and pressing th record button it=0A> seems as if=0A> >> it was loc= ked and then i press it a second time=0A> and it=0A> >> resets,any ideas? i= ve been even thinking of=0A> sending it to=0A> >> you so you can check it o= ut but i dont know if=0A> that would be=0A> >> ok with you,plus you could d= o a comparison between=0A> the=0A> >> gordius and this one;-)=0A> >>> thanx= for your always great help man i really=0A> >> apreciate it!=0A> >>> =0A> = >>>> My guess is that your controller is=0A> sending=0A> >>>> Note-On/Note-= Off pairs on=0A> >>>> pressing the switch, not waiting for you=0A> to=0A> >= > release it=0A> >>>> before sending the Note-Off.=0A> >>>> =0A> >>>> So, t= he Direct Midi SUS commands will not=0A> be=0A> >> audible.=0A> >>>> (e.g. = SUS Reverse would reverse for such a=0A> small=0A> >> time that=0A> >>>> yo= u wouldn't perceive it)=0A> >>>>=A0=A0=A0=0A> >>>> I had a look at the manu= al for your=0A> controller,=0A> >> it=0A> >>>> describes a number=0A> >>>> = of "button modes".=0A> >>>> One of those is "Momentary while Holding"=0A> >= >>> ....that's what you want.=0A> >>>> (or whatever causes the Note-Off to = be=0A> sent as=0A> >> you=0A> >>>> *release* the switch)=0A> >>> tried that= but nothing either...=0A> >>>> hope that helps=0A> >>>> =0A> >>>> andy=0A>= >>>> =0A> >>>> =0A> >>>> =0A> >>>> =0A> >>>>> =0A> >>>>> =0A> >>>>> =0A> >= >>>>> andy=0A> >>>>>> =0A> >>>>>> =0A> >>>>>> =0A> >>>>>> =0A> >>>>>> =0A> = >>>>>>> cheers=0A> >>>>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> >>>>>>> =0A> >= >>>>>> =0A> >>>>>>> --- andy butler =0A> >>>>>> sch= rieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:=0A> >>>>>>>> Von: andy butler =0A> >>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: programing=0A> liquid=0A> >> foot jr.=0A> >>>= > midi=0A> >>>>>> footcontroller with EDP help!=0A> >>>>>>>> An: Loopers-De= light@loopers-delight.com=0A> >>>>>>>> Datum: Montag, 23.=0A> November 2009= ,=0A> >> 10:46=0A> >>>>>>>> what Per said for the=0A> DirectMidi.=0A> >>>>>= >>> =0A> >>>>>>>> They only require Note-On=0A> (except=0A> >> for=0A> >>>>= SUS)=0A> >>>>>>>> To get the longpress(to=0A> make reset=0A> >> work)=0A> = >>>> I'd try=0A> >>>>>> changing=0A> >>>>>>>> the Button Mode to=0A> "Momen= tary=0A> >> while=0A> >>>> Holding".=0A> >>>>>>>> I don't understand where= =0A> you=0A> >> entered=0A> >>>> "64".=0A> >>>>>>>> andy=0A> >>>>>>>> L.Ang= ulo wrote:=0A> >>>>>>>>> hi gang,=0A> >>>>>>>>> i just got the litte=0A> li= quid=0A> >> foot midi=0A> >>>>>> controller and=0A> >>>>>>>> im having a ha= rd time=0A> controlling=0A> >> the EDP=0A> >>>> as i did=0A> >>>>>> with th= e=0A> >>>>>>>> behringer.=0A> >>>>>>>>> So far ive manage to=0A> program=0A= > >> the=0A> >>>> virtual=0A> >>>>>> functions=0A> >>>>>>>> like=0A> >>>>>>= >>> record=0A> >>>>>>>>> overdub=0A> >>>>>>>>> multiply=0A> >>>>>>>>> mute= =0A> >>>>>>>>> undo=0A> >>>>>>>>> next=0A> >>>>>>>>> reverse=0A> >>>>>>>>> = half speed=0A> >>>>>>>>> =0A> >>>>>>>>> the way i have to do=0A> this is=0A= > >> giving=0A> >>>> the "note=0A> >>>>>> on"=0A> >>>>>>>> offset number an= d a value=0A> of 64=0A> >> and it=0A> >>>> works=0A> >>>>>> fine.=0A> >>>>>= >>>> However when i try to=0A> program=0A> >> any of=0A> >>>> the e=0A> >>>= >>> DirectMidi=0A> >>>>>>>> functions it does not=0A> respond at=0A> >> all= ,do i=0A> >>>> have to=0A> >>>>>> send=0A> >>>>>>>> additional comands for= =0A> them to=0A> >> function? i=0A> >>>> recall=0A> >>>>>> on the=0A> >>>>>= >>> behringer fcb1010 i just=0A> gave the=0A> >> note=0A> >>>> number and= =0A> >>>>>> it=0A> >>>>>>>> worked.=0A> >>>>>>>>> The otherr thing that=0A>= is not=0A> >> working=0A> >>>> is=0A> >>>>>> erasing the=0A> >>>>>>>> loop= by holding and=0A> pressing the=0A> >> record=0A> >>>> button.=0A> >>>>>>>= >> Anyway if u midi=0A> experts could=0A> >> take a=0A> >>>> little=0A> >>>= >>> time to=0A> >>>>>>>> help me id be really=0A> thankfull!=0A> >>>>>>>>> = here is the liquid=0A> foot jr=0A> >> manual:=0A> >>>>>>>>> http://www.liqu= id-foot.com/downloads.shtml=0A> >>>>>>>>> =0A> >>>>>>>>> Thanx=0A> >>>>>>>>= > cheers=0A> >>>>>>>>>=0A> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> >>>>>>>>> =0A>= >>>>>>>>> =0A> >>=0A> __________________________________________________= =0A> >>>>>>>>> Do You Yahoo!?=0A> >>>>>>>>> Sie sind Spam leid?=0A> Yahoo!= =0A> >> Mail=0A> >>>> verf=FCgt =FCber=0A> >>>>>> einen=0A> >>>>>>>> heraus= ragenden Schutz=0A> gegen=0A> >> Massenmails.=0A> >>>> http://mail.yahoo.co= m =0A> >>=0A> __________________________________________________=0A> >>>>>>= > Do You Yahoo!?=0A> >>>>>>> Sie sind Spam leid? 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Mail verf=FCgt =FCber einen herausra= genden Schutz gegen Massenmails. =0Ahttp://mail.yahoo.com From lnfo@98257.ppsecure.com Fri Nov 27 08:29:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 396 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:29:20 UTC Received: from mail.names.lt (mail.names.lt [92.61.38.39]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038AB3BE70 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.names.lt (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.names.lt (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F7E6D1A8; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:20:52 +0200 (EET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on sspbuntu X-Spam-Level: ****** X-Spam-Status: No, score=6.7 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_50, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,FORGED_OUTLOOK_HTML,FORGED_OUTLOOK_TAGS,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG,HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1,MIME_HTML_ONLY, MISSING_HEADERS,MISSING_MID autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from User (adsl-070-148-013-066.sip.mgm.bellsouth.net [70.148.13.66]) (Authenticated sender: test@names.lt) by mail.names.lt (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:20:41 +0200 (EET) From: "Resolution Center" Subject: Your account has been limited Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:21:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20091127082052.C3F7E6D1A8@mail.names.lt> To: undisclosed-recipients:; From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 27 09:35:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC2D43BE79; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:35:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 293629268/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.183.20/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.183.20 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An8CAB0sD0tPTrcU/2dsb2JhbAAImQ+8KIQxBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,300,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="293629268" Message-ID: <4B0F9D45.7020907@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:35:01 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help! References: <873799.10975.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <873799.10975.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:35:03 +0000 (UTC) L.Angulo wrote: >> You'll have to re-program everything to CC , but I think >> it'll >> work. > > Hi Andy, > Im testing the EDP first direct midi function called SUSRecord note number 50 (36 + 14) you mean CC number...right? > and it does somehow respond but it erases the loop and then there is a dot next to the loop > number on the EDP screen and all the parameter buttons are green,any idea what that means? All green means a loop is playing. The dot is AutoUndo. So what you report indicates that you just recorded a very short loop. Which is exactly what SUSRecord is intended to do. > >> The Liquid actually has a parameter to stop it responding >> "too fast". >> That's why you miss some button presses. >> "Button Delay", p67 in the manual should fix this. > > unfortunately it doesnt,thats the first thing i set when > i got it,in fact i have it to the lowest setting and it > still happens,everything else gets faster thoguh like scrolling through banks etc. that's bad, >> Personally, I'd wanna check the latency on the buttons, >> latency >> tends to creep up as features are added, sometimes no-one >> notices. > > yes that would be great but how can this be done?? create a drone loop in the EDP Mute it. Then un-Mute it using the controller. That will give you a fair idea by ear. To get accurate measurement you need to make a recording to a stereo recording device. One channel gets the EDP output, the other the (very) close miced sound of the switch. Then looking at the 2 channels in the audio editor gives you a measurable latency (including the EDP latency, which is rather small). 5mS is the kind of response time you're looking for. > >> When I first got the Gordius it had a problem in this >> respect.. >> ...Xavier fixed it pretty quickly. >> >> You should ask that the firmware be updated to handle >> simple >> Note-On/Note-Off,.....essential if you want to use it to >> play synth notes. >> >> Sometimes hardware creators only imagine their devices >> being used for certain tasks. You don't need Note-on >> to control a guitar rig, so the feature perhaps never got >> tested. >> That's why it's important for users to feedback about >> their >> experiences.. a good manufacturer will take it very >> seriously. >> >> Is there a "liquid Foot" forum? or a Yahoo Group? ...there >> should be. >> andy > > > Yes,ive been posting like crazy but hardly any responses,i >dont think anybody is trying to do what im trying,as you say probably >most are just sending PCs and CCs with it and it seems very geared towards > the AXE FX which in fact also has a looper. > I love the design of the unit though,it sits >perfect on my pedalboard and the screen is beautiful,i just wish >i had your midi knowledge to tell him what needs to be corrected because >i dont think he knows the EDP at all... It's rather simple what to tell him. 1) I need to program a switch so that on press, it sends a Note-On, and no Note-Off. 2) When I release the switch it needs to send the corresponding Note-Off (only). 3) A similar behaviour with CC would be acceptable. 4) I'm used to doing fast combinations of button presses, I've found that commands get missed when I do that. > cheers > Luis > > > > >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 27 09:46:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9D153BE79; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259315161; bh=Wm9NduaTyL5WNS6vYjHdq2vU9HZXDbpcEnNh7HZo2lM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JPd5Vwnca+mG5nr4C4gmYJQN1C1RXk+yLn+UJST4Pnyhv0Qyxku+ScDt0/vMmPcy7yUdMdM6BgIn7+j/0wG8zeA7vDmnQjBSVq+SPj6JWS/Pn9HutAAaCfFuaIIg/0p38IVW4XUZI9M2kIRyeBm+gx81QI4Aa4oDlzKvkJcPVAI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=mFOhukJ/NevjJXMBFjr/Ohm79jo92bf91IdcgZNqCxkqlUBYkpkh1eP2cGeyTcpSEMghEBMS5YawchLE0wPLLovM5cL3BynrWc00Jfd1/oe4ODSJZrnFcJfG+igWp3ISYnpidFU9AEieNHUSvNFRKtnrsJMYMYcPnssd5udQWWA=; Message-ID: <302061.48788.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: SMSiwI0VM1l5zSRVagRW_abKX6Mo._CqbBXPTiJxCloWU9CjSXRKob2CDX7rLS_Msi3k2qRgTrtICmaFfrBpwADKzFhI_9_LbX5bNMP4mQtXzm8PHd9YShWrQ85mJk7s3aePwbTNcVhFFdH_BM8yX90j0T0HoCyRPGIxs6XHuoLSpempPPkRdj.NAZjleJjXnWTcErzO6xc8WHaH7HODAGXDc9Gov1sHSRY9l48TigSQaS2YemliLIMqaV2oNNHvgUGZiJuD2hCkLeTinOGDJ8eDKiPlQIQwZacCTN7.AO1RrCVTcr5coh5NR4_09XW3p1wMnOs- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:46:01 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4B0F9D45.7020907@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <12NGOD.A.Kf.a_5DLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:46:02 +0000 (UTC) > It's rather simple what to tell him.=0A> 1) I need to program a switch so= that on press, it sends a=0A> Note-On, and no Note-Off.=0A=0Awell yes, ive= told him that and he says thats what the liquid foot does and it does in f= act send notes ons and offs but they arent working for the sus comands,so t= hen he said i had to program that in switch mode which ive tried but still = not working,so he claims there is a mistake somewhere on my part,jesus and = im realising how easy the fcb1010 is to program!=0A=0A> 2) When I release t= he switch it needs to send the=0A> corresponding Note-Off (only).=0A=0Ai me= an for a 470.00 dlls unit this thing has to be able to do that!=0A=0A> 3) A= similar behaviour with CC would be acceptable.=0A> 4) I'm used to doing fa= st combinations of button presses,=0A> I've found that commands=0A> get mi= ssed when I do that.=A0 =0A> =0A> =0A> > cheers=0A> > Luis=0A> > =0A> > =0A= > > =0A> > =0A> >> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A________________________________________= __________=0ADo You Yahoo!?=0ASie sind Spam leid? 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Hi 

I have one expres= scard input on my macbook pro. Is there still a way to somehow use two card= s (UAD2 solo/laptop and Apoogee) on my mac? Is there clever way around= this? 

best regards 
Rune F.&= nbsp;

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<302061.48788.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Gibson EDP/Allen&Heath Mixwizard question Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:54:20 -0500 References: <302061.48788.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Looperz, I am looping just an acoustic guitar and vocal with my echoplex through a Allen & Heath Mixwizard 16:2. I am utilizing the A&H's dual effects through auxes 5&6. Basically, giving my acoustic on channel one a slap delay, vocals on channel 2 with a hall reverb. The A&H's effects are audible until I loop, then the signals become dry. I would like to have the loops wet. The EDP's input is patched to Aux 5 on the back of the mixer and the EDP's output is patched to ST1in also on the back of the mixer. I've tried patching the EDP differently with no luck. I never really utilized the A&H"s effects until now and for the life of me, I cannot figure this out. 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Yours Sincerely, Dr. Larry Williams --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 28 10:19:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC4D63BE78; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:19:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 298095989/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.185.150/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.185.150 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AisCAKaHEEtPTrmW/2dsb2JhbAAImSe5MoQxBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,305,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="298095989" Message-ID: <4B10F933.8060101@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:19:31 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Gibson EDP/Allen&Heath Mixwizard question References: <302061.48788.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:19:28 +0000 (UTC) Hi Todd, Firstly, let's assume that you're using the EDP on a send other than Aux 5, which you also say is an internal fx send. The whole secret is that you don't *need* to use an input intended for fx return to bring an fx back into the mixer. Bring them back on a regular channel, and then you can do any additional routing with ease For full flexibility you need to route the Mixer's FX out of the mixer, and bring them back on a regular fx channel. I don't know your specific mixer, so I can't tell you if that's possible. However, if the internal fx has a send to a particular Aux then just put the EDP on that Aux and you're sorted. If the internal fx only go to the main output and nowhere else then your only option is to bring the EDP back on Channel 3 and add your fx onto the dry audio in the looper, that's not going to get the exact sound you want in the case that you're looping both guitar and voice, but then it's the best you're gonna get. andy butler Todd Chambeau wrote: > Looperz, > > I am looping just an acoustic guitar and vocal with my echoplex through > a Allen & Heath Mixwizard 16:2. > I am utilizing the A&H's dual effects through auxes 5&6. Basically, > giving my acoustic on channel one a slap delay, vocals on channel 2 with > a hall reverb. > The A&H's effects are audible until I loop, then the signals become dry. > I would like to have the loops wet. > The EDP's input is patched to Aux 5 on the back of the mixer and the > EDP's output is patched to ST1in also on the back of the mixer. > I've tried patching the EDP differently with no luck. > I never really utilized the A&H"s effects until now and for the life of > me, I cannot figure this out. > > Thanks, > Todd > > > From webmaster@ksu.edu Sat Nov 28 13:06:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2463 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:06:15 UTC Received: from mail1.lvfo.org (mail1.lvfo.org [81.199.22.166]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C283BE70; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kas30pipe.localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.lvfo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7AFEA3E3A; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:12:16 +0300 (EAT) Received: from mail1.lvfo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.lvfo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C96CEA3E35; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:12:15 +0300 (EAT) Received: from 41.220.75.16 (SquirrelMail authenticated user lvfo-sec) by mail1.lvfo.org with HTTP; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:12:15 +0300 (EAT) Message-ID: <31df55c02334c485b403c145c683d0c8.squirrel@mail1.lvfo.org> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:12:15 +0300 (EAT) Subject: Dear Email Account User From: "Mail Administrator" Reply-To: accountunit@live.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: webmaster@ksu.edu X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 10982 [Nov 28 2009] X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: 7-bit header Content-Type found with 8-bit header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Info: {TO: undisclosed} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 50 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0284], KAS30/Release Dear Email Account User This message is from our Technical Account Online maintenance unit to all our email account users. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 28 13:29:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D2F73BE7E; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:subject :date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:x-mimeole; bh=m0cDFHDrFYGFMB23VGMrzMyVPsD1MteJ6DRDvBubN2w=; b=RGCUGqHXPQ5hFcxGx6ez2qvefunx7TQBzlCW05VNw8FSdKJiJZjDASuZmwlxf0ZOeT sue5QhFSfLxkVjil2UdjfeLQAafr/3Qyj4pfTkO8w4gO+m5Uk9B5gx4Uv7XwOjPKr0EO uGw1u3qvB122ia4MzNpLo937sa5Ew10IFw2U4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:x-mimeole; b=S39tWPjx+48wDLNGGAWO/La+NfZYFNRqYgHOdjy6ctaZO4dGluYAtj9ILhjTSUHHlR D2gaegEaiJEdsaXBcI2HN80INrb+LZwFm2Jnttnursg+Kp3LSVH9VyqHfXI0qxuAW3C0 NpztY9O0uWBh1+LaiD6Rl4L/hoPj8NU7lyKHE= Message-ID: <4b1125b9.07a0660a.3843.ffff9b24@mx.google.com> From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: [Virtual Gig Spam]: The MoinSound Studio Sessions today at 1700 UTC Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:29:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcpwLtf85HcdHGB2Q/mKiusYth2ppQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: <0Uq1CC.A.lT.-WSELB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Hi everyone, tune in for another hour or so of looping madness at the MoinSound Studio Sessions on ustream: http://fwd4.me/0Aa Time/Date: http://fwd4.me/68s Today's set will mainly include an important and wildly interesting speciall announcment, so don't miss it ;) Later, Rainer --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions http://vimeo.com/moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 28 14:46:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87D133BE79; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:46:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:46:31 UTC Message-Id: <1C35B0A7-83F3-4161-BD3F-0ED6404F17DC@comcast.net> From: Todd Chambeau To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4B10F933.8060101@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Gibson EDP/Allen&Heath Mixwizard question Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:38:23 -0500 References: <302061.48788.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4B10F933.8060101@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:46:31 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Andy, The A&H actually sends it's internal effects over aux 5&6. I ended up running the input to the EDP from Aux 1, then kept the output of the EDP to the Stereo Input and this does work, I have a wet loop. I am not really sure why this works, since I thought only Aux 5&6 were the routable internal effects auxes. Even on the effects list right, on top of the board, it has an option for one set of effects for Aux 5 and another for Aux 6? Thanks again for helping me out. Todd On Nov 28, 2009, at 5:19 AM, andy butler wrote: > Hi Todd, > > Firstly, let's assume that you're using the EDP on a send other than > Aux 5, which you also say is an internal fx send. > > The whole secret is that you don't *need* to use an input intended for > fx return to bring an fx back into the mixer. > Bring them back on a regular channel, and then you can do any > additional > routing with ease > > > For full flexibility you need to route the Mixer's FX out of the > mixer, > and bring them back on a regular fx channel. I don't know your > specific mixer, so I can't tell you if that's > possible. > However, if the internal fx has a send to a particular Aux then just > put the EDP on that Aux and you're sorted. > > > If the internal fx only go to the main output and nowhere else > then your only option is to bring the EDP back on Channel 3 > and add your fx onto the dry audio in the looper, that's not > going to get the exact sound you want in the case that you're looping > both guitar and voice, but then it's the best you're gonna get. > > andy butler > > > Todd Chambeau wrote: >> Looperz, >> I am looping just an acoustic guitar and vocal with my echoplex >> through a Allen & Heath Mixwizard 16:2. >> I am utilizing the A&H's dual effects through auxes 5&6. Basically, >> giving my acoustic on channel one a slap delay, vocals on channel 2 >> with a hall reverb. >> The A&H's effects are audible until I loop, then the signals become >> dry. I would like to have the loops wet. >> The EDP's input is patched to Aux 5 on the back of the mixer and >> the EDP's output is patched to ST1in also on the back of the mixer. >> I've tried patching the EDP differently with no luck. >> I never really utilized the A&H"s effects until now and for the >> life of me, I cannot figure this out. >> Thanks, >> Todd > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 28 15:10:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CFFE3BE77; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <33D592F3-43D4-435A-BD27-2051639AE1C2@comcast.net> From: Todd Chambeau To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1C35B0A7-83F3-4161-BD3F-0ED6404F17DC@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Gibson EDP/Allen&Heath Mixwizard question Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:10:13 -0500 References: <302061.48788.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4B10F933.8060101@tiscali.co.uk> <1C35B0A7-83F3-4161-BD3F-0ED6404F17DC@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <5ThOk.A.f0D.W1TELB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Hey Andy, I spoke too soon. It works, however after I put down the original loop, any overdubbing comes out extremely thin (EQ wise) the volume is there, but it sounds like all of the mids and highs are turned to 10. I turned off all of the internal effects etc., and tried a couple of the other aux channels, but no luck. Close but yet so far. Todd On Nov 28, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Todd Chambeau wrote: > Thanks Andy, > > The A&H actually sends it's internal effects over aux 5&6. > I ended up running the input to the EDP from Aux 1, then kept the > output of the EDP to the Stereo Input and this does work, I have a > wet loop. > I am not really sure why this works, since I thought only Aux 5&6 > were the routable internal effects auxes. Even on the effects list > right, on top of the board, it has an option for one set of effects > for Aux 5 and another for Aux 6? > > Thanks again for helping me out. > Todd > > > On Nov 28, 2009, at 5:19 AM, andy butler wrote: > >> Hi Todd, >> >> Firstly, let's assume that you're using the EDP on a send other than >> Aux 5, which you also say is an internal fx send. >> >> The whole secret is that you don't *need* to use an input intended >> for >> fx return to bring an fx back into the mixer. >> Bring them back on a regular channel, and then you can do any >> additional >> routing with ease >> >> >> For full flexibility you need to route the Mixer's FX out of the >> mixer, >> and bring them back on a regular fx channel. I don't know your >> specific mixer, so I can't tell you if that's >> possible. >> However, if the internal fx has a send to a particular Aux then >> just put the EDP on that Aux and you're sorted. >> >> >> If the internal fx only go to the main output and nowhere else >> then your only option is to bring the EDP back on Channel 3 >> and add your fx onto the dry audio in the looper, that's not >> going to get the exact sound you want in the case that you're looping >> both guitar and voice, but then it's the best you're gonna get. >> >> andy butler >> >> >> Todd Chambeau wrote: >>> Looperz, >>> I am looping just an acoustic guitar and vocal with my echoplex >>> through a Allen & Heath Mixwizard 16:2. >>> I am utilizing the A&H's dual effects through auxes 5&6. >>> Basically, giving my acoustic on channel one a slap delay, vocals >>> on channel 2 with a hall reverb. >>> The A&H's effects are audible until I loop, then the signals >>> become dry. I would like to have the loops wet. >>> The EDP's input is patched to Aux 5 on the back of the mixer and >>> the EDP's output is patched to ST1in also on the back of the mixer. >>> I've tried patching the EDP differently with no luck. >>> I never really utilized the A&H"s effects until now and for the >>> life of me, I cannot figure this out. >>> Thanks, >>> Todd >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 28 16:36:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 677F93BE77; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1259426202; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=nbwwtiOOT8ihaFljdgVpoRdX7J0=; b=Pk0oWcmzXcCtYxxY5QcGC7bd6XVAy8E8/JvruT7B061TLUnHn1kjii3UT6dT240e Kvtn4O5AD0to2JZo9w8NuVMximM9GhIyvWegGnHY714mJW+ueC7Pzd1QEcIkjI/l; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=lzJ_sfGXLRcA5oCe9bUA:9 a=AR1PWLXoGtaL4Xoc0YzPEZoHuHcA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000501ca7048$f7990f80$e5f03747@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: usb external soundcard Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:36:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Hey all, I want to add stereo line in and out to an older laptop that only has a mic input and a headphone out. I want to be able to run Ninjam on it. I will feed a stereo line from my mixer into it then a stero line out to another computer. Any tips? I am thinking USB might do this but I am not sure what to get. Happy Holidays, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 28 16:47:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B67EE3BE73; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:47:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20091128100130.prulocbhc0s48s48@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:01:30 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Jeff Duke Subject: Re: usb external soundcard References: <000501ca7048$f7990f80$e5f03747@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <000501ca7048$f7990f80$e5f03747@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: <2qySr.A.R0G.OQVELB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:47:10 +0000 (UTC) I picked up an M-Audio FastTrack Pro a while back and it worked really well for recording and NINJAM. -cpr Quoting Jeff Duke : > Hey all, > > I want to add stereo line in and out to an older laptop that only has a > mic input and a headphone out. I want to be able to run Ninjam on it. I > will feed a stereo line from my mixer into it then a stero line out to > another computer. Any tips? I am thinking USB might do this but I am > not sure what to get. > > > Happy Holidays, > > Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 28 16:50:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56A1B3BE78; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:50:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <008601ca704a$f5d83ac0$db04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <000501ca7048$f7990f80$e5f03747@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: usb external soundcard Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:50:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <6vYzqB.A.uCH.qTVELB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:50:50 +0000 (UTC) Hello Jeff, I use a Tascam US 122L with my laptop. Always works fine for my purposes. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Duke" To: Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:36 PM Subject: usb external soundcard > Hey all, > > I want to add stereo line in and out to an older laptop that only has a > mic input and a headphone out. I want to be able to run Ninjam on it. I > will feed a stereo line from my mixer into it then a stero line out to > another computer. Any tips? I am thinking USB might do this but I am not > sure what to get. > > > Happy Holidays, > > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 28 17:58:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 311C63BE73; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:58:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1259431105; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=qFXL5L8Epazxp12hOFSFR62KlYk=; b=aFj/Dhx2ZJcQF/P2kKA5QSA3gqfWDH7BIViGvV/WkA39K7+bk1fKoSSkkKzoLGnj To/Z/gl+TsBQWoWyVD4tXlmZITiw0T/my9xZQvh51qCTFUujMyknv4wayFe5LhVN; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=a5Gf7U6LAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=Q5ccDc2h1BOO4HH8AW8A:9 a=5DOpg8F7eKgFf3cLQD2Gffcr2H4A:4 a=yHIqe9kG5mgA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002601ca7054$61db0d70$e5f03747@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000501ca7048$f7990f80$e5f03747@YOUR08D5303051> <008601ca704a$f5d83ac0$db04c150@yourc9d9764718> Subject: Re: usb external soundcard Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:58:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <4pTzUD.A.SzB.CTWELB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:58:26 +0000 (UTC) Thanks to Steve and Cris for the replies. It gives me something to go on. I also have checked out the "B" word products which I have always been happy with. At least the mixers. This looks doable! all the best, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Moyes" To: Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 11:50 AM Subject: Re: usb external soundcard > Hello Jeff, > > I use a Tascam US 122L with my laptop. Always works fine for my purposes. > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Duke" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:36 PM > Subject: usb external soundcard > > >> Hey all, >> >> I want to add stereo line in and out to an older laptop that only has a >> mic input and a headphone out. I want to be able to run Ninjam on it. I >> will feed a stereo line from my mixer into it then a stero line out to >> another computer. Any tips? I am thinking USB might do this but I am not >> sure what to get. >> >> >> Happy Holidays, >> >> Jeff >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 28 18:05:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57CB43BE78; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:05:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:subject :date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :x-mimeole:thread-index:in-reply-to; bh=BDl1tGGK502JeoL1A5QkYpXJaIdeGHCM8weMADvH9ng=; b=wn7/6YkLXSmOrAMopZupBz3ha2DXrv2IU/c494EjTA48Zs6mL5vGFYOlyrTlV5LpDx UhjSFHPN4uVR6ziRc/0rk9iOB1GQAlrIybUvuuKc9XgImJbR44cta6QtFJi5sV4eZL1D sdyPyRoE9nYGUXegrrx/j/X53D2vY9C63FGHo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:x-mimeole:thread-index :in-reply-to; b=dIVmMQ/xo+VrIQRWjWFxG371O6wbYQdEuJSi4EW+PxX7oZHMDqdKbgB/y0D1b7UDa/ 6YQRXYuaS6Uesb6v2MXrAPZyJ6JUciuSGUVuEc/ecnVSm/GUO2qqGgPSq0HbpElKHaXP QmA5HV3uqVdYrKAXS/Yd2O7Z6BhBtK8V4APQE= Message-ID: <4b116676.170d660a.2c8c.2a6e@mx.google.com> From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: AW: usb external soundcard Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:05:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: AcpwVGsbI9Cwn68gSf6WTDtVe2gqMgAAOOiA In-Reply-To: <002601ca7054$61db0d70$e5f03747@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: <85iXl.A.jKC.6ZWELB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:05:46 +0000 (UTC) Speaking of which - there's a B-word product which has one pair line in/out each, and is very cheap. And it works. It came with my UBS keyboard. > Thanks to Steve and Cris for the replies. It gives me > something to go on. I also have checked out the "B" word > products which I have always been happy with. At least the > mixers. This looks doable! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 28 18:12:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26FAA3BE7F; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:12:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1259431954; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=K/ELV5vCz4aDc4IVYY+XwsN8YPg=; b=FxtSLDkbVYf2n/6vVEmlsJkem9surl5KuqWRR6j465aq9DQyIzIAaL1SHiPiuPkU bsVM2g3/NQwwkDQJ6KZeF99A3WTUviN8geYhebmjQUB2Z8STDc0b271tYopyIoYD; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=TY-btpfdAAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=4XWJI-T0bQmvFZ0SsboA:9 a=6klKhX79ciwzw8LQteq_qANtFs4A:4 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000c01ca7056$5bda4510$e5f03747@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <4b116676.170d660a.2c8c.2a6e@mx.google.com> Subject: Re: usb external soundcard Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:12:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:12:34 +0000 (UTC) Ah yes Rainer, Jim mention this one to me and it's very reasonable. It is a borrowed laptop so I really just want to get by cheaply until I can get my own super machine! :o) http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA202-USBAudio-Interface?sku=702540 there is also this one for more money but I don't need the "Massive" software bundle! lol http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA222?sku=476148 thanks, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 1:05 PM Subject: AW: usb external soundcard > Speaking of which - there's a B-word product which has one pair line > in/out > each, and is very cheap. And it works. It came with my UBS keyboard. > >> Thanks to Steve and Cris for the replies. It gives me >> something to go on. I also have checked out the "B" word >> products which I have always been happy with. At least the >> mixers. This looks doable! > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 28 19:05:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CC383BE79; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:05:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/yv0LkoM8H54nNpxM4JhHjVYtjJYLKvbUXBz6h0cTlQ=; b=OnKr3wA9D7Ss5490ZItG48/eB+Dg90tr2Sftb1Cwl/XFrzER2QdgQnFlK/ssSyYKCO jKyJchKBmqAJJWamNWDNwdJw6Uzae2REIkCZU6EECt56bwqN15uJyn03AfpjYTh7rrKo o/DiO43JJFR55n08dljGfTO1y5Wo0uTFy4+FM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=s7/ELVvYlSbnpS0l26Eb7jHXZC/jXWJYr9ozSS5vlxmhxlXvDmkZXTQl+uX6Vm2hK1 TglH4Un1ZRIpZr5eSgA20NLM/rxJVY5zxC4cFtemWYgd794/Dht1qln3xEEgdfvQbPif N0gg61Ay6yA2PsTbptlAHMZk9uleB387eqeSw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000c01ca7056$5bda4510$e5f03747@YOUR08D5303051> References: <4b116676.170d660a.2c8c.2a6e@mx.google.com> <000c01ca7056$5bda4510$e5f03747@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:05:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: usb external soundcard From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d783fc90882c04797316df Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:05:15 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d783fc90882c04797316df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 also the edirol U1-EX ... 2009/11/28 Jeff Duke > Ah yes Rainer, Jim mention this one to me and it's very reasonable. It is a > borrowed laptop so I really just want to get by cheaply until I can get my > own super machine! :o) > > http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA202-USBAudio-Interface?sku=702540 > there is also this one for more money but I don't need the "Massive" > software bundle! lol > > http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA222?sku=476148 > > thanks, > > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" < > moinsound@googlemail.com> > > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 1:05 PM > Subject: AW: usb external soundcard > > > > Speaking of which - there's a B-word product which has one pair line >> in/out >> each, and is very cheap. And it works. It came with my UBS keyboard. >> >> Thanks to Steve and Cris for the replies. It gives me >>> something to go on. I also have checked out the "B" word >>> products which I have always been happy with. At least the >>> mixers. This looks doable! >>> >> >> >> > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d783fc90882c04797316df Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable also the edirol U1-EX ...

2009/11/28 Jef= f Duke <jeff_= d@embarqmail.com>
Ah yes Rainer, Jim mention this one to me and it's very reasonable. It = is a borrowed laptop so I really just want to get by cheaply until I can ge= t my own super machine! :o)
http://pro-audio.= musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA202-USBAudio-Interface?sk= u=3D702540
there is also this one for more money but I don't need the "Massiv= e" software bundle! lol
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com= /product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA222?sku=3D476148

thanks,

Jeff

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" <moinsound@googlemai= l.com> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 1:05 PM
Subject: AW: usb external soundcard



Speaking of which - there's a B-word product which has one pair line in= /out
each, and is very cheap. And it works. It came with my UBS keyboard.

Thanks to Steve and Cris for the replies. It gives me
something to go on. I also have checked out the "B" word
products which I have always been happy with. At least the
mixers. This looks doable!






--
Raul Bonell= at Blogger: http://raulbonell.b= logspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

--0016e6d783fc90882c04797316df-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 28 21:13:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7BE33BE73; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/OBTHLs98+70LWrJc9qbcSlDSBnlkvf8Gfyv8VzYyxo=; b=ikBfGV7MrTNpx+lhC1jnChiKdBp3qnG31hORGHrP+/2jZlG8myqz+G1L9D+xoXS9z7 v/ox5YCL+gVnBecWleLYTj1xmxJiWbNpk0dZwhAOJOYk/5YgAAZ2euOosfb7RADP0rhx 2jwZFGmi7RMKGGEt0Fy4fRqQpUxcL2JYRgJ5I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kbVKRC3YrJBQiF4ecZeVIASb8eiKairsCHAwLrWWCSLPpOUYtHh+ICj8+FYOEU3DX/ Gmq8k9aWh4iPPAq3HX4ohvL+4u8i6fViXkWscAE/2x2ePu26wbrJ9fVWpcpRN9q6R5mz lvT8oFQLMAcXdhu7z2GwmibD4BgZpLdfSTiZo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4b116676.170d660a.2c8c.2a6e@mx.google.com> <000c01ca7056$5bda4510$e5f03747@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:13:14 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: usb external soundcard From: Michael Billow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0b9c55e25d2047974e0c8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:13:15 +0000 (UTC) --001636e0b9c55e25d2047974e0c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I recently acquired this Sound Blaster card for the same reason, and have been happy with the results. http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=208&product=17751 On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > also the edirol U1-EX ... > > 2009/11/28 Jeff Duke > > Ah yes Rainer, Jim mention this one to me and it's very reasonable. It is a >> borrowed laptop so I really just want to get by cheaply until I can get my >> own super machine! :o) >> >> http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA202-USBAudio-Interface?sku=702540 >> there is also this one for more money but I don't need the "Massive" >> software bundle! lol >> >> http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA222?sku=476148 >> >> thanks, >> >> Jeff >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" < >> moinsound@googlemail.com> >> >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 1:05 PM >> Subject: AW: usb external soundcard >> >> >> >> Speaking of which - there's a B-word product which has one pair line >>> in/out >>> each, and is very cheap. And it works. It came with my UBS keyboard. >>> >>> Thanks to Steve and Cris for the replies. It gives me >>>> something to go on. I also have checked out the "B" word >>>> products which I have always been happy with. At least the >>>> mixers. This looks doable! >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > --001636e0b9c55e25d2047974e0c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I recently acquired this Sound Blaster card for the same reason, and h= ave been happy with the results.
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On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gm= ail.com> wrote:
also the edirol U1-EX ...
2009/11/28 Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com= >=20

Ah yes Rainer, Jim m= ention this one to me and it's very reasonable. It is a borrowed laptop= so I really just want to get by cheaply until I can get my own super machi= ne! :o)
http://pro-audio.= musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA202-USBAudio-Interface?sk= u=3D702540
there is also this one for more money but I don't need the "Massiv= e" software bundle! lol
http= ://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA222?sku=3D47= 6148

thanks,

Jeff

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rai= ner Straschill" <moinsound@googlemail.com>=20 Sent: S= aturday, November 28, 2009 1:05 PM
Subject: AW: usb external soundcard= =20



Speaking of which - = there's a B-word product which has one pair line in/out
each, and is= very cheap. And it works. It came with my UBS keyboard.

Thanks to Steve and = Cris for the replies. It gives me
something to go on. I also have checke= d out the "B" word
products which I have always been happy with. At least the
mixers. This = looks doable!






--=
Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-col= lective.com


--001636e0b9c55e25d2047974e0c8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Nov 28 23:40:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF7A53BE78; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259451646; bh=VU1h7U5p62Ah+dH9t96GFS9UGq6ckFDG2fr0Xajb45Y=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dtDGGPItAqZvJ5jnUI6Y9Nret5hT8GCeysW9ktRFBsTL//jcuPmzd6cQC5BGnC3ZYboYykuoRFo/qq4+Uu56RnoBaK5uC5vB5QRP+8omU/dJpXPEMEnW/7f7JXq/Fvlf1k3KF5rU2OvXz1IHoiNkBFWp76BxdCPeAVPvTvGZJhU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=reD5VYstkGjUYesLmKVZ+OOdkcC0yS7tacHsbnw231WXs6EXQChpQxEYTpOZ3DRHtxhyxlhSLe9k/+24/U6Au2NJvjuSH+WopVc/rQbHjGa7+76WZKxokoXr7Qy/vzYpCtHKaaAy9MGSqj7wNGEgGVVmeXaAc6xaB1zbodzA21E=; Message-ID: <839226.23552.qm@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: a9nU1g4VM1lXOjZSfc2JrFm8Xi1MLT8VBCrM8QNVh8.eFpibY4Hr2S.WV5kya58OgX4lBfQlWNFqFC4xu6OM.YK_vwewB3qAMDdidQk0zkLYmlgwHRrqsgFyWrVUg3hnuz_Y2Ym6oy5_CVaObCihN9Ozna3v6lIG3iXo.UztV75OFBe_qQZTVgzXzx2G6WhVVEJTA8BkMVCgvIW_uM__z9dNrFtlzj49scfTvrHYWXFP39EgYEWLFYJqLcfJCPFO66HR5omO2RwzZEofivr6vkdorwx1oi9943ZZJ8Uyl2RT49oYFY22kCIcij2D7AhpRgdK3yK4Rbud.Z1lCzM3hNgk27bZMf0MpUjKwZEayC73wYJz5kOc_Y0KWNkKBm0mwbj8nodMWacHAVdEuykMH0aPMDGtnAyxrdW35qSTq9ocLU47EHlGD647EWc- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:40:46 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Uccello Subject: DEC 12th House Concert in Seaside-Uccel(lo o P)roject To: LOOPER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-525562191-1259451646=:23552" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:40:47 +0000 (UTC) --0-525562191-1259451646=:23552 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all-I hope I'm not getting too repetitive, sorry if so, just want to = make sure the word gets out to you all about a house concert that I'm perfo= rming at on DEC 12th,=0Afeaturing Looping using Upright Bass, Dobro Slide B= ass, Acoustic Guitar,=0APercussion. Here's a couple of links to some vids o= n youtube, if you'd like to hear some of my playing/looping. One is from an= other house=0Aconcert that I organized and played at: w/ Bowed Upright Bass and lots of harmonics on electric bass: http://www.youtube.com/user/UccelloProject#p/u/4/xK9oOzruAT4 w/ Dobro Slide Bass:=20 http://www.youtube.com/user/UccelloProject#p/u/1/8Jna7zHGSIg Hope you enjoy the Vids, here are some of the details about the upcoming sh= ow: -Time: Saturday, December 12th, 2009 =A0- 7:30 pm -Place: House Concert In Seaside, CA=0A (USA) -contact: email stevebassbird@yahoo.com=A0 -or call 831-801-4920 for details/directions=09=A0-details: Price: $12 (inc= ludes show/drinks/snacks!)=20 =0A=0A=0A --0-525562191-1259451646=:23552 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all-I hope I'm not getting too rep= etitive, sorry if so, just want to make sure the word gets out to you all a= bout a house concert that I'm performing at on DEC 12th,=0Afeaturing Loopin= g using Upright Bass, Dobro Slide Bass, Acoustic Guita= r,=0APercussion. Here's a couple of links to some vids on youtube, i= f you'd like to hear some of my playing/looping. One is from another house= =0Aconcert that I organized and played at:

w/ Bowed Upright Bass and= lots of harmonics on electric bass:

http://www.youtube.com/user/UccelloProject#= p/u/4/xK9oOzruAT4

w/ Dobro Slide Bass:

http://www.youtube= .com/user/UccelloProject#p/u/1/8Jna7zHGSIg

Hope you enjoy= the Vids, here are some of the details about the upcoming show:

-Time: Saturday, December 12th, 2009 &n= bsp;- 7:30 pm

-Place: House Concert In Seaside, CA=0A (USA)

-contact: em= ail stevebassbird@yahoo.com 

-or call 831-801-4920= for details/directions
=09 
-details: Price:= $12 (includes show/drinks/snacks!)

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Yours Faithfully, Mrs. Tracy Philip FedEx Online Team Management From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 29 02:26:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5251A3BE78; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=vTybrQE3pLBRiZMWXx930uMODFMviEz4IfjZnXFcnh8=; b=HN2tF5yhDFE3FMGlBxFg+v6U82/P2wmKLoeqzgUyJAvpblRf2xvU2++MqE7LZWDK94 hNHbGlAsTV3nwK3gMMVNyEWv6MqvPcDh2QMDvykzTUeI6REsE9mo2wMwxK3Rpa3d2/Tu yIvGTUoZ1Gu0HbZuFfQW+g9tRA0G6mJgNASlI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=t/i4ZwvJD6CmqWTH7VdjpwV8bKRpIvT1DaI1+9qToB9y17yVamtiuGQiXc+kOem47T +1zZ2/thhSzb7f5KOnjWKGc/n0GcKn/XrXlZyLFZ5xGLpOKQtp9+6zbwOAhGrA7Wph2g H/hRJsigBmL0kVJck6ac4a/Y9C8R0a9ebYfl8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:26:57 -0500 Message-ID: <9ea2f30b0911281826p44aabec1q15ff431a5141fa5d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Happy Holiday Looping!!!! From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68dec0651355f04797942ef Resent-Message-ID: <2jzud.A.I2E.yvdELB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:26:58 +0000 (UTC) --0016e68dec0651355f04797942ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Here's is a quick 3 min video of me looping to get you in the holiday spirit....... http://vimeo.com/7872038 Happy Holidays and Happy Loopin, Todd Matthews --0016e68dec0651355f04797942ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Here's is a quick 3 min video of me looping to get you in the holiday spirit.......


http://vimeo.com/7872038




Happy Holidays and Happy Loopin,


Todd Matthews
--0016e68dec0651355f04797942ef-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 29 02:34:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BAB03BE79; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259462052; bh=Qh8h1OrD/Ly7I26Zy6y21IY81XKECgULALn13SsIAvU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FtdSLNDR9QjDKlW3PPDNX98iwDnl77z7jO/JZWkwISVBlMNCnDp1sFs6WHI4SN53DaSulnZIRldB8DKe5bqmq5jcj6T0E1DpLYINskn7CIwgtdqb04gcKvb34yNtIjQ6eDNQ+JKshT65VCgRWHgAiiR/y9MgnP0K+7ciR+aLjfA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eH9mEhc0HoKXnsPL/dw3qxmzMqjmkgEtRX2qprgwFqRGiZir8sG9TFoAuBotDrq46rQUX1te3oQ+7wWgQCBYCDPM5KF+dVbYGo9TfXdGNogl488NgLtjabtK1ng91kCc3/8Csc3C5SuEeCO6w03QWzq+pZhsuprKY19ipbYi8vk=; Message-ID: <614854.75042.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: dxtc.RMVM1l7Bz8WaaUDRJ.rgMJqd.zaTlgA3sXIcELtVD0xrnXuSFefEVOPtMtjTjuOQpwBPeE9py0MWOilzqhjoXsSgsWIxoT3bhgqTgebbG67_TR5vDhvCrzOkGsRi4SnSg8eKX8_zIKkFt0YA4gN58UjpCB67lo6_KvvESDXjyuVYg9irwVtI2IxAJ1rAW1M2EodxRb4g9YJfbNH5UQwIC6kBZBlc1xwOjBvOacgtuyE_wv1pgNUq99MZn1AdKrtRDZA.PIdTweuYv4zVLL5vdJZhBq0L_PkBRb17cHl_t2pIze5YQw98sKPtADtZQzaVfK9LmsomLzpuWrV_NuI73fOzIlZSVswlG1V0W4Tk9yxRjE3TDQV5Oc4ew9IEyUxqYHHPXZ02eGPs_NzABEe6uIQuPcEM4v3EFq6_kmq0JfMDyROC90VNXUECE47acxh2dZxETAjvCeMiYcGvusP7aZdTcseQx8kJnUJhPnunR4p8NLmd8Qvzd7Zp5oWBXnVVj.jkxrpYC05Qag1_D5bbpMht6LABteSDFKqKuval91eWVCAXjdRtBnd.ZANiyivGIT4XF01oJQgd840YVQoz0MIp1mXxxHzQ29FLO.INnmPIgyvV1A- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:34:12 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <2F0335BB-891A-49FD-BBED-6253A71D3AD0@glasswing.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-553996079-1259462052=:75042" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:34:14 +0000 (UTC) --0-553996079-1259462052=:75042 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for all the great information. I guess I can get by without spending= too much cash for a decent mic. Ah, well. I need to build my mic collectio= n up anyway as I want to go back to using a real conga/bongo set and will h= ave to mike those as well. Thanks again. =A0 Regards, Paal --- On Thu, 11/26/09, richard sales wrote: From: richard sales Subject: Re: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 11:36 AM I've always used an old (black) Sennheiser 421. =A0You can fiddle with the = pad on it for different tone. =A0And, like the SM57, you can also use it as= a jack hammer in a pinch! I use that into a Daking Mic Pre IV. Paul Smith = recommended the Daking. Having said that I haven't tried the Royer 121 that lots of guys use. =A0I = bet it sounds really good.=A0 Also fun to put a mic on the front and back of cabinet if open cabinet. =A0= Have to watch for phase issues. =A0I used a Neumann TLM103 on the back and = the Sennheiser on the front and you can sort of tune your sound from dark (= back) to brighter (front) using this method. =A0Didn't use this on the late= st record, though. =A0 Can't go wrong with 57s though. =A0Many big hit records have been made with= them on guitar cabinets.=A0 Most important, have fun! richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.goodnaturefarms.com On Nov 26, 2009, at 1:28 AM, andy butler wrote: Depends where you want to use it. ...and the effect you wanna get. The SM57 has been mentioned as it's often used in studios for that purpose, and it's cheap. It'll get the job done. ...but it has drawbacks 1) Shure mics are inconsistent to an extent that's unusual in =A0a mic considered to be a standard. There's a lot of variation =A0=A0in how they sound. (to be fair, part of that's down to their =A0=A0reputation for robustness...they tend not to get looked after, then t= hey degrade) 2) A mic that colors the sound so considerably works best if it's only used= for =A0one or two elements in your final mix. 3) It's not a good option as an all round mic, in case you wanted to =A0=A0use it other stuff too. 4) If you want to try the mic at a further distance from the amp =A0to capture ambience, and get an alternative tone for recording, then =A0a less colored mic would be better. Of course, none of those drawbacks is necessarily a deal breaker. An alternative would be a decent small diaphragm condenser, something by Rode, Octava, Beyer Dynamic. That would give you a more accurate representation of the amp (not necessarily what you want), and could be also be used for recording more or less anything. Make sure you spend time finding the best mic placement, that makes all the difference. Distance, position and angle. My favourite is to use a condenser about an inch away on the edge of the sp= eaker cone. andy butler Paul Richards wrote: Hello: In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output capability to rou= te the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm about to get a smal= l wattage Marshall (Class5 - =A05W) with no output feature which means I wi= ll have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced microphone? T= HX! Regards, Paul =0A=0A=0A --0-553996079-1259462052=:75042 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for all the great information. I = guess I can get by without spending too much cash for a decent mic. Ah, wel= l. I need to build my mic collection up anyway as I want to go back to usin= g a real conga/bongo set and will have to mike those as well. Thanks again.=
 
Regards, Paal

--- On Thu, 11/26/09, richard sales <ric= hard@glasswing.com> wrote:

From: richard sales <richard@glasswing.com>=
Subject: Re: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp
To: Loopers-Delight@l= oopers-delight.com
Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 11:36 AM

I've always used an old (black) Sennheiser 421. &nb= sp;You can fiddle with the pad on it for different tone.  And, like th= e SM57, you can also use it as a jack hammer in a pinch! I use that into a = Daking Mic Pre IV. Paul Smith recommended the Daking.

Having said that I haven't tried the Royer 121 that lots of guys use. =  I bet it sounds really good. 

Also fun to put a mic on the front and back of cabinet if open cabinet= .  Have to watch for phase issues.  I used a Neumann TLM103 on th= e back and the Sennheiser on the front and you can sort of tune your sound = from dark (back) to brighter (front) using this method.  Didn't use th= is on the latest record, though.  

Can't go wrong with 57s though.  Many big hit records have been m= ade with them on guitar cabinets. 

Most important, have fun!


On Nov 26, 2009, at 1:28 AM, andy butler wrote:

Depends where you want to use it.
...and the effect you wanna get.<= BR>
The SM57 has been mentioned as it's often used in studios
for tha= t purpose, and it's cheap. It'll get the job done.
...but it has drawbac= ks
1) Shure mics are inconsistent to an extent that's unusual in
&nbs= p;a mic considered to be a standard. There's a lot of variation
 &n= bsp;in how they sound. (to be fair, part of that's down to their
 &= nbsp;reputation for robustness...they tend not to get looked after, then th= ey degrade)
2) A mic that colors the sound so considerably works best if= it's only used for
 one or two elements in your final mix.
3) I= t's not a good option as an all round mic, in case you wanted to
 &= nbsp;use it other stuff too.
4) If you want to try the mic at a further = distance from the amp
 to capture ambience, and get an alternative = tone for recording, then
 a less colored mic would be better.

Of course, none of those drawbacks is necessarily a deal br= eaker.

An alternative would be a decent small diaphragm condenser, s= omething
by Rode, Octava, Beyer Dynamic. That would give you a more accu= rate
representation of the amp (not necessarily what you want), and
c= ould be also be used for recording more or less anything.

Make sure = you spend time finding the best mic placement, that
makes all the differ= ence. Distance, position and angle.
My favourite is to use a condenser a= bout an inch away on the edge of the speaker cone.

andy butler


Paul Richards wrote:
Hello:
In the past, I've always had guitar amps with som= e output capability to route the signal to a looper, recording device, et a= l. I'm about to get a small wattage Marshall (Class5 -  5W) with no ou= tput feature which means I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a re= asonably priced microphone? THX!
Regards, Paul



=0A=0A= =0A=0A --0-553996079-1259462052=:75042-- From drlarryw@tin.it Sun Nov 29 03:42:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from www2.aaos.org (www2.aaos.org [67.94.122.14]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9043BE70; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:42:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User [82.128.23.37] by www2.aaos.org with ESMTP (SMTPD-10.02) id A94C17C0; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:50:52 -0600 Reply-To: From: "Dr. Larry Williams" Subject: Re: Your Atm Card Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:53:23 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <200911281654760.SM02736@User> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Attn: Sir / Madam, It was Resolved and Agreed upon that your Inheritance/Contract Funds would be released to you on a special method of payment which tag Name Reads "SWIFT CREDIT CARD".You are Adviced to Re-comfirm YOUR NAME,ADDRESS, OCCUPATION, NEXT OF KIN. PHONE AND FAX NUMBER TO CLAIM YOUR FUND. Thanks. Yours Sincerely, Dr. Larry Williams --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 29 14:34:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 973333BE72; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=XRxnwcGvt9RmMHfu1BQ/s3pFp1y4Fh1YC7EhxpilvnHIgq4FYeqfmCgIqzLsGouiWJgZXwpsg1lFpiwEvBjhXbfnlKjMnnTJ3geZL4Z8vfzkNLgU+lZ6QbxLSxweBFaj8OsCB6sLqMz/y3J4UO77F89YU+9974U0EdKU+UHX36A= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: X3cmQukVM1klCj4ZuditVf0e5uJx7yoCpyzMPdBXAw9b8_80gRCc_28wN53IVp7IHrgOlGXfdSnBtQzV5WrFwM9jPwbfcyw.P0CJE1dUMexgD8tQkXASiYMsaaQWelcBqcGNsLnUzEH90EKHFtpfmoOBSfzUd3XWM2Bf9e6fqC4hE6fqXvqX2vm4wKdb6aKG4mj5ih1bz9GWficvZpIx5GvTdw1IOOaCDlx9liekLDYolniJCm8W1UEhq5xoyniwFtN01n6MwT3iWz9_WEneCyd_a6dCLlCEDZJlx0drlcU_HTu13MnHiXUs.SU- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ricky Graham" To: Subject: OT: 1/2 U Flight Case Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:34:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA7101.0AD68F60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:34:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA7101.0AD68F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Folks, Did anyone ever have any luck finding a half U hard/soft flight case? = I'm looking for one that'll fit my RME Fireface 400. Best, Ricky ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA7101.0AD68F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Folks,
 
Did anyone ever have any luck finding a = half U=20 hard/soft flight case? I'm looking for one that'll fit my RME Fireface=20 400.
 
Best,
 
Ricky
------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA7101.0AD68F60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 29 14:59:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61A823BE77; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_VLPQeALjNl1PttBOPxLBzg)" In-reply-to: References: X-Priority: 3 Message-id: From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: OT: 1/2 U Flight Case Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:58:41 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:59:20 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_VLPQeALjNl1PttBOPxLBzg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Nope. Ands it's curious as there are now so many 1/2 rack devices. On Nov 29, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Ricky Graham wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Did anyone ever have any luck finding a half U hard/soft flight > case? I'm looking for one that'll fit my RME Fireface 400. > > Best, > > Ricky --Boundary_(ID_VLPQeALjNl1PttBOPxLBzg) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Nope. Ands it's curious as there are now so many 1/2 rack = devices.=A0
On Nov 29, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Ricky Graham = wrote:

Hi Folks,
=A0
Did = anyone ever have any luck finding a half=A0U hard/soft flight case? I'm = looking for one that'll fit my RME Fireface 400.
=A0
Best,
=A0
Ricky

= --Boundary_(ID_VLPQeALjNl1PttBOPxLBzg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 29 15:13:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5694A3BE7C; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:13:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3MJScHXsBvro9M5tihkoQz+gHkMtlNMymlOsPs8Cuh0=; b=O7at0ALsneD7YTHDHp1jpNzvhJuIlcaHIdCAlW7mvy0dWIu/dn9OF7cvZC8vkgGuHh 59I4z588dj8xY5PaSi7sDXWobGsBWrq79G9JIe2EsTPhk3T8QOgCqynsQPINyfh+Zirr 9yMo0vaZvqvb6It+yzSL8CAQC4fZBX0KN2DcY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=io+SB0gkKN113NtTuV/6hX+TA9I5beK+j8oZSHwTpQXGUtCNk+78cfXRWUMZ28G08v kdCT/DfJ0rJUOWcQLdomO6GCFivR7ckdJl30NitJVnrba7NjePcYsEh0Pf69G8kFzpti d7Mq7keaCF9A3vgOuTeUEgP2hp3IYT/9BmpYs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b0911281826p44aabec1q15ff431a5141fa5d@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ea2f30b0911281826p44aabec1q15ff431a5141fa5d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:13:57 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Happy Holiday Looping!!!! From: Ted Killian To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd11bd457df40047983f9e9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:13:59 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd11bd457df40047983f9e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sweet. I also checked out "Unravel" wjich was very good too. Thanks for sharing. On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: Here's is a quick 3 min video of me looping to get you in the holiday > spirit....... > > http://vimeo.com/7872038 > > Happy Holidays and Happy Loopin, > > Todd Matthews > --000e0cd11bd457df40047983f9e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sweet.

I also checked out "Unravel" wjich was very good t= oo.

Thanks for sharing.

On Sat, No= v 28, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:

Here's is= a quick 3 min video of me looping to get you in the holiday spirit.......<= br>
http://vimeo.com= /7872038

Happy Holidays and Happy Loopin,

Todd Matthews

--000e0cd11bd457df40047983f9e9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 29 15:26:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CCC03BE79; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:26:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <15506.72.51.1259508418.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b0911281826p44aabec1q15ff431a5141fa5d@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ea2f30b0911281826p44aabec1q15ff431a5141fa5d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:26:58 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Happy Holiday Looping!!!! From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <6y1BuB.A.IQC.DLpELB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:26:59 +0000 (UTC) Hi Todd, Nice one. Really enjoyed that. Thanks, Andre On Sat, November 28, 2009 10:26 pm, Todd Matthews wrote: > Here's is a quick 3 min video of me looping to get you in the holiday > spirit....... > > > http://vimeo.com/7872038 > > > > > Happy Holidays and Happy Loopin, > > > Todd Matthews > Andre Donawa Barbados Guitar School Woodside Gardens Bay St. St. Michael Barbados 11157 Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) 246 436 8294 (School) http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 29 16:00:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73FB03BE7E; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:00:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RQEFOxmPdUkcbYPbF2aj+VFKdZIRJ0QXCUTL6e6p3DE=; b=BBNAaEtWqy4wMkE8J3+7NQQ6jrC+FE+636yTaw3oafA5iN4CMxxeBuxH8aY0fwIuZa /gqdPaVjdPyF2ZMDyLBqiYgK7K7zVT+kR3TpObiF/gE3JxjaKWUWqIo47U34yMREWu0m uXK98zlcH9AC86MQO94RdNv+KaX9bN6OUI0C8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=W4upONUmIddHEbEnsz8Wr+bVfg4KImVLpwQQcuh/BQvDoh1NzcaFZeFOL6nJF/GGX1 pCWuZ92a1QHcyVC+x9KLEX8SfDi5+8B/wfGaDus+EhBiVo2KxCDLOyuUX2kZ3kM7xQKY 5IwbObb+PSV0abdF2K69ceiat+2LGEYreXS0c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:00:57 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911290800t9e94772wa5b78df4cc15ec74@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: 1/2 U Flight Case From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <9kNYVD.A.yaD.7qpELB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:00:59 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Did anyone ever have any luck finding a half=C2=A0U hard/soft flight case= ? I'm > looking for one that'll fit my RME Fireface 400. > > Best, > > Ricky When I bought my first RME device around the millennium it shipped in a nice case. That was an RME Multiface that has the same dimensions for packing as the F400. The case looks like this: http://www.meridianvs.com/images/metal_briefcase_texx.jpg My guess from the logotype on the case is that it was from the German company Audio AG http://s267473844.online.de/audioag/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 29 16:12:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DFD53BE75; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:12:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1259511149; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=POYZDs7Yw67V2KMiBNQVhJW4Buc=; b=dR1pspOjLLh/X5R+XX7ANvG9ZBJ9t7T5Yur4ugUlW9tnzeeFWVlaYQenYVZljC0Z e1rYiQiPqrV5IP2AV3iq3IVWZCDzoVyarp1eYa/eK9EC1B5LYd0AW7HSzSjZoG1N; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=54qVC4NuI1WUeBcIAM4A:9 a=92sq7gNEipLg7AiyMLSXMBURx2UA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=y1zSOWsrJhBUYPvtqqQA:9 a=2VTJtKec28E0qQMsSHYA:7 a=2AQnjI_c_thX3XmYPGAdnp0JDo8A:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000e01ca710f$02723e10$e5f03747@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9ea2f30b0911281826p44aabec1q15ff431a5141fa5d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Happy Holiday Looping!!!! Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:14:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA70E5.19355DF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:12:30 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA70E5.19355DF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ditto on that Todd, good to see you on vid again, I always liked Unravel = also. Happy Holidays for you and yours, Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ted Killian=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:13 AM Subject: Re: Happy Holiday Looping!!!! Sweet.=20 I also checked out "Unravel" wjich was very good too. Thanks for sharing. On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Todd Matthews = wrote: Here's is a quick 3 min video of me looping to get you in the = holiday spirit....... http://vimeo.com/7872038 Happy Holidays and Happy Loopin, Todd Matthews ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA70E5.19355DF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ditto on that Todd, good to see you on = vid again, I=20 always liked Unravel also.
 
Happy Holidays for you and = yours,
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ted=20 Killian
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 = 10:13=20 AM
Subject: Re: Happy Holiday=20 Looping!!!!

Sweet.

I also checked out "Unravel" wjich was = very good=20 too.

Thanks for sharing.

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Todd = Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> = wrote:

Here's=20 is a quick 3 min video of me looping to get you in the holiday=20 spirit.......

http://vimeo.com/7872038

Happy Holidays = and Happy=20 Loopin,

Todd=20 Matthews

------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA70E5.19355DF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 29 16:30:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD32D3BE7C; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00a901ca7111$4ab85ea0$db04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <9ea2f30b0911281826p44aabec1q15ff431a5141fa5d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Happy Holiday Looping!!!! Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:30:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Todd, I really enjoyed that. Hope to hear more from you sometime soon! Steve www.stevemoyes.org.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 2:26 AM Subject: Happy Holiday Looping!!!! Here's is a quick 3 min video of me looping to get you in the holiday spirit....... http://vimeo.com/7872038 Happy Holidays and Happy Loopin, Todd Matthews From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 29 16:50:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C5EB3BE78; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:50:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=JityDimr6Y1QVAjI/qHQxKywFOXT3EzWpfWGNTUL9n8=; b=mT8t5hQk3Qya7oXcO1BFlwwOiXr28A/tjCSqvjlTyiwHj86zrRn5pOsJdkw5fFkD+N Jfprf7S58qK4oxMbLAqWyiomN5+kuq67s+RKC4I4UDh6H6S7mErHPYHsYduNTwlWr4Ht 8PPJceSHtOHJDEpjmscP26JUxO8t8RC7NNalk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qiGojaefrFevT9PQcx5E6J5tTAQ2WH2AE6INz7GgtspvnxL9zSusuX4f2NkCWYEjaS rXkYjJC0aSxlhd/a1vjhUUxyaWrSkxWKUF5dQi+8brZ8+Mfa9oJM885MJSBHa6zweDMQ qvdUVU/kUpQuka++82/4jH4tUybKYdm1+APS4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:50:35 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60911290850n601ce011t59846ca7cd65dcf0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: VirtualPostGigArchiveSpam: Jim Goodin - Jeff Duke - Music for a Saturday From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517447a74ef6c05047985528f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:50:40 +0000 (UTC) --001517447a74ef6c05047985528f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Last night after tweaking my audio setup for doing the NinJam/uStream feeds to resolve some previous dropout issues I've been having, I contacted Jeff (a.k.a. 'ffff) about using his server and doing a test run. We had not planned a formal live show this weekend as friend Peter [Thorn] from our new collective Goodin/Thorn/Istorico/Duke(yet to be named) had computer problems this weekend and couldn't play. Well the test proved stable, we started having some cool 'noise' happening that paralleled a set Daryl and I did last month as part of the Norcal Noisefest (Great fun!), so we kept going and put it online live on uStream for over an hour. Here's the link for a playback experience as this was spontaneous and unpromoed. We continue to use the fine imagery of Emile Tobenfeld by the way. http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2667517 Cheers and thx for listening... Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001517447a74ef6c05047985528f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Last night after tweaking my audio setup for doing the NinJam/uStream feeds= to resolve some previous dropout issues I've been having, I contacted = Jeff (a.k.a. 'ffff) about using his server and doing a test run.=A0 We = had not planned a formal live show this weekend as friend Peter [Thorn] from our new collective Goodin/Thorn/Istorico/Duke (yet to be named) had computer problems this weekend and couldn't pla= y.

Well the test proved stable, we started having some cool 'noise'= ; happening that paralleled a set Daryl and I did last month as part of the=
Norcal Noisefest (Great fun= !), so we kept going and put it online live on uStream for over an hour.=A0= Here's the link for a playback experience as this was spontaneous and = unpromoed.=A0 We continue to use the fine imagery of Emile Tobenfeld by the way.

http://www.ustream.t= v/recorded/2667517

Cheers and thx for listening...


Ji= m

--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgood= inmusic.com
www.chinap= aintingmusic.com
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www.myspace.com/china= paintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodin= music

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networkin= g...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodin= music

--001517447a74ef6c05047985528f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 29 22:33:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B87CA3BE78; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1200 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:33:50 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1259532829; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=mpuVDHVSrMigl3WSOlXU54Uz684=; b=myZ32pMJo2pBefOqDJHEnmw2CxiaWHNn4FfDktUmf8ZmUfOo34/9LJKHqzowhlcP ZRGVfow3SYPEAciSQ3IxsrHQ+24Ut3neKJ0eevHxZ58pXQqRBxnYM9bEayDg/rz5; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=8G-uA8DAdRad79xp_TkA:9 a=9F8kcXoh2CCsQ0KQLP0duvJITygA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=ejyuhas@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) From: "ejyuhas" Message-ID: <1A.AC.02487.D12F21B4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> To: Subject: RE: usb external soundcard Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:13:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <008601ca704a$f5d83ac0$db04c150@yourc9d9764718> Thread-Index: AcpxP6TIXLTaebWcQQeOTXUjASe+kwAALegA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:33:50 +0000 (UTC) **I use a Tascam US 122L with my laptop. Always works fine for my purposes. **Steve I just bought one of these on a closeout from Sweetwater...only $130.00 US! Glad to hear it works well on a laptop, since I'll be using that and an older version of Adobe Audition to do some basic recording. Ed in NJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 29 22:49:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 854E43BE77; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:49:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002901ca7146$40b343e0$db04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <1A.AC.02487.D12F21B4@smtp02.embarq.synacor.com> Subject: Re: usb external soundcard Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:49:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:49:34 +0000 (UTC) Make sure you download the latest firmware and driver, and I'm sure you will be quite happy with the 122L. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "ejyuhas" To: Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:13 PM Subject: RE: usb external soundcard > > **I use a Tascam US 122L with my laptop. Always works fine for my > purposes. > > **Steve > > > I just bought one of these on a closeout from Sweetwater...only $130.00 > US! > > Glad to hear it works well on a laptop, since I'll be using that and an > older version of Adobe Audition to do some basic recording. > > Ed in NJ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 00:43:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EA063BE79; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:43:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <9e0440a60911290850n601ce011t59846ca7cd65dcf0@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: VirtualPostGigArchiveSpam: Jim Goodin - Jeff Duke - Music for a Saturday Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:43:34 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 141.158.123.49 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60911290850n601ce011t59846ca7cd65dcf0@mail.gmail.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CC3F6D47E8453A_27B8_6DC41_webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 29202-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CC3F6D47DC5E3C-27B8-36B59@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:43:49 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CC3F6D47E8453A_27B8_6DC41_webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" jim and 'ffff' this was fun but the ads on the bottom of the page were a= major distraction......althought the music did go with the J C PENNY SNUG= GIE ADS.....:).....great photos.....m =20 ----------MB_8CC3F6D47E8453A_27B8_6DC41_webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
jim and= 'ffff' this was fun but the ads on the bottom of the page were a major di= straction......althought the music did go with the J C PENNY SNUGGIE ADS..= ...:).....great photos.....m

----------MB_8CC3F6D47E8453A_27B8_6DC41_webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 01:12:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCF683BE79; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:12:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oz2jtHaNrf3OgfBxs21TVFGwf53iOcb3ZXDCAlPeTt0=; b=BPfNLul6uCWPG9ES2XYSiLTjsXOtUDc5Gk2Mx4IcXMSqguwILjlvyyK67W59CFh4rr sDWU4eCv82NmVHgkuWTkFIdbJ5MFtezwquOBuu/lQYjp+dqtDf2c7jUMWkSaXX4XQIHN pmRtp6ZznhVHX9o0Y087oEAplEsSnZh2Wx7cc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pSWNA48RbUwpn/ZrcXu2T2u9+eZtHPFOizsDKphwbUoUQs8xRLi5VpomdtpfHiaW1n l2uZQ9cc6qXjFRVMfkrJr5rJesYS+g0rTujnqYmUOus/UjsK5pcze08xXv/AYYoJeF5s PHIhbZGUANzheGpre4MMMV7yIe+isOac9gBLg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CC3F6D47DC5E3C-27B8-36B59@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> References: <9e0440a60911290850n601ce011t59846ca7cd65dcf0@mail.gmail.com> <8CC3F6D47DC5E3C-27B8-36B59@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:12:28 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60911291712p21b601e8l406db4f1196e8abe@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: VirtualPostGigArchiveSpam: Jim Goodin - Jeff Duke - Music for a Saturday From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c0f02c8b24104798c55b3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:12:29 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c0f02c8b24104798c55b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As my son just astutely reminded me, the ads make it possible for me to do live video streaming for free. Though agreed they can be disruptive - thanks for watching Scoots - will relay to Emile. J On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 7:43 PM, wrote: > jim and 'ffff' this was fun but the ads on the bottom of the page were a > major distraction......althought the music did go with the J C PENNY SNUGGIE > ADS.....:).....great photos.....m > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0015174c0f02c8b24104798c55b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As my son just astutely reminded me, the ads make it possible for me to do = live video streaming for free.=A0 Though agreed they can be disruptive - th= anks for watching Scoots - will relay to Emile.

J

On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 7:43 PM, <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
jim and = 'ffff' this was fun but the ads on the bottom of the page were a ma= jor distraction......althought the music did go with the J C PENNY SNUGGIE = ADS.....:).....great photos.....m

=20



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ReUse, an introspective= textural aural
www.myspace.c= om/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

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--0015174c0f02c8b24104798c55b3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 01:45:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 094493BE73; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <14256.72.51.1259545551.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:45:51 -0400 (AST) Subject: tune yards @ okay mountain From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: "Loopers-Delight Loopers-Delight" User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Love her raw passion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZF3irdaVDY&feature=related Andre http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 02:07:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B04643BE77; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:07:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259546850; bh=tDWJOGERL639GeHtcOiNUVwqL65TjjTXWaJqtBJViPI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JNdCoe17+p99e9qFbizTXnZKrapFWo+hC6hxD/ILmj+oxJ32GWfcOix8+6X7QR6eMKlh+VJrz3m2ns85jFD6iCaCYTgocnjNM7G+CGXShY7dnEJBZykfDYgUJyMsir0kZQ1M9EyVnkdMyS2Ez4NDsGFsHaK7aw9OVM9D27F6RVg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CEDrrMhvODlkkCL7lzVoNNLHAP9aN/L3xb6xixWpaqJSAtuHwLsvOnV9OPSXaxT4VqzL0hpWBEdjACFkhCDO+ZlceXmHksUx/LMLSKmw+fsykWQwLi943vWerois2HoyS+m67sZb7h2qJGmOa+nrJfBN8XpGILIGyWM9pYEXeBM=; Message-ID: <669670.44888.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: H5QO9EoVM1k1E1ZHHQsIqu0TlAr68pxIY3CKaNZwk.PpBGacS3k1hJlDPphHDzcZXZWmZM_P1zmcxQWyEGCkHIbKCMMS7.vX4q0nA3GdXYJJtrJtTnmCPVdU6hIzlhqrbzvLgbXF8EB4EsNY70oPz5Q6RjhP8ngHEj4RodAWBp7odc84_erZN38UkbSXkzVem6HlAlMvSG5tm46MrqPjy7p5i9tp__Pn_giY3ODlqc1WPG7j8L9PC10M7EaluSEDZbpthJJE8AGIUCgAlpgLxiK85SwJArNXfCWU.jf00xeYtVNUpd5Q750YiwNr.7wqgkqpEMh3Sw_71EoAgbUKmUj5vwQ7BGlpiV8MLCJsswgufo0vRUeV7ha_bXBcTixni9VUO54uptHwDu_w9weA5miBxiEFTdW6zsSNNXiIBhYw X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:07:30 -0800 (PST) From: scott hansen Subject: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad?? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-945879636-1259546850=:44888" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:07:31 +0000 (UTC) --0-945879636-1259546850=:44888 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable last night i watched a bunch of youtube clips of guitarists playing w/ the korg mini-kaoss pad (w/ guitar) wow, i thought the sounds coming out of that thing was amazing. =A0 has anyone played w/ one, experimented w/ one...it seemed to sound better t= han when i had the original kaoss pad yrs ago.. =A0 just curious if anyone had any experience w/ one..... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen =A0=0A=0A=0A --0-945879636-1259546850=:44888 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
last night i watched a bunch of youtube = clips of guitarists
playing w/ the korg mini-kaoss pad (w/ guitar)
wow, i thought the sounds coming out of that thing was amazing.
 
has anyone played w/ one, experimented w/ one...it seemed to sound bet= ter than
when i had the original kaoss pad yrs ago..
 
just curious if anyone had any experience w/ one.....
s---
 

=0A=0A --0-945879636-1259546850=:44888-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 02:14:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51A263BE73; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Q1wQsmf2bXipRY2U6iH5pQ)" Message-id: <9DEFEC31EFF34E27979CCD00963F7054@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <669670.44888.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad?? Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:14:09 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:14:14 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_Q1wQsmf2bXipRY2U6iH5pQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I had one. I ended up selling it. For me, it seemed to work better with repetitive rhythms like a techno drum pattern. They are fairly cheap at 149 bucks so it's not a big loss to experiment with one. toby ----- Original Message ----- From: scott hansen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:07 PM Subject: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad?? last night i watched a bunch of youtube clips of guitarists playing w/ the korg mini-kaoss pad (w/ guitar) wow, i thought the sounds coming out of that thing was amazing. has anyone played w/ one, experimented w/ one...it seemed to sound better than when i had the original kaoss pad yrs ago.. just curious if anyone had any experience w/ one..... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --Boundary_(ID_Q1wQsmf2bXipRY2U6iH5pQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
I had one.  I ended up selling it.  For me, it seemed to work better with repetitive rhythms like a techno drum pattern.  They are fairly cheap at 149 bucks so it's not a big loss to experiment with one.
 
toby
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:07 PM
Subject: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad??

last night i watched a bunch of youtube clips of guitarists
playing w/ the korg mini-kaoss pad (w/ guitar)
wow, i thought the sounds coming out of that thing was amazing.
 
has anyone played w/ one, experimented w/ one...it seemed to sound better than
when i had the original kaoss pad yrs ago..
 
just curious if anyone had any experience w/ one.....
s---
 

--Boundary_(ID_Q1wQsmf2bXipRY2U6iH5pQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 02:40:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDC663BE78; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=gW9CMAgWkSDPJbwI2kxRNg/QXN4s0U68rYydAaoLX8Y=; b=KwIQQu+ETT624uNKRctFnyoyvPi3m+QQ4DOoBGlDBYoicy/CvCU8J6tIkqTE+CTXN9 6fr32VhHiu7fojysy12Qej5lhX9nxkx4qVC0pHlHd2a7ini1tVZta1TWZBrer8+f91a/ tfslDz+v8sg1jhHhwmAr4XXRbXJfsqo422xn4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=LyxnjkMHuAlrrdU8FJAXZb15HDkZ9uZUbGYskAaMnhvxiHh5rfIaahKDwL8jp/uYtM vJJHiY4i04wYFEKG4Vo1K+77w0bj0FxTpZGzENgNDwuIUDKPVq+2sd0gkBg58gYCCku2 cthJTAT0TkfGFUeRoK1T048LRmITEh2nk+ASM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9DEFEC31EFF34E27979CCD00963F7054@NORBY11> References: <669670.44888.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9DEFEC31EFF34E27979CCD00963F7054@NORBY11> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:40:38 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6e7f2395080bf51a Message-ID: <37f071c00911291840y1001123o14453f771c7a2117@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad?? From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2112c1b277d04798d91ef Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:40:41 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd2112c1b277d04798d91ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have one on a mic stand and I love it to add effects sweeps to sustained notes and loops. You can do really nice rhythmic things by tapping the pad art various places to sort of slice the signal with different effect parameters. I really have enjoyed it, $150 well spent imo. Kevin On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Toby G wrote: > I had one. I ended up selling it. For me, it seemed to work better with > repetitive rhythms like a techno drum pattern. They are fairly cheap at 149 > bucks so it's not a big loss to experiment with one. > > toby > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* scott hansen > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:07 PM > *Subject:* semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad?? > > last night i watched a bunch of youtube clips of guitarists > playing w/ the korg mini-kaoss pad (w/ guitar) > wow, i thought the sounds coming out of that thing was amazing. > > has anyone played w/ one, experimented w/ one...it seemed to sound better > than > when i had the original kaoss pad yrs ago.. > > just curious if anyone had any experience w/ one..... > s--- > www.myspace.com/scotthansen > > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos --000e0cd2112c1b277d04798d91ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have one on a mic stand and I love it to add effects sweeps to sustained = notes and loops.=A0 You can do really nice rhythmic things by tapping the p= ad art various places to sort of slice the signal with different effect par= ameters.=A0 I really have enjoyed it, $150 well spent imo.

Kevin

On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 6:14 PM= , Toby G <carpet8@m= ac.com> wrote:
I had one.=A0 I ended up selling it.= =A0 For=20 me, it seemed to work better with repetitive rhythms like a techno drum=20 pattern.=A0 They are fairly cheap at 149 bucks so it's not a big loss t= o=20 experiment with one.
=A0
toby
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 scott=20 hansen
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:= 07=20 PM
Subject: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss= =20 pad??

last night i watched a bunch of youtube clips of guitarists
playing w/ the korg mini-kaoss pad (w/ guitar)
wow, i thought the sounds coming out of that thing was=20 amazing.
=A0
has anyone played w/ one, experimented w/ one...it seemed to s= ound=20 better than
when i had the original kaoss pad yrs ago..
=A0
just curious if anyone had any experience w/ one.....
s---
=A0




--
Till now you seriously = considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the prima= l ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharsh= i (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.mi= nds-eye.org
Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
--000e0cd2112c1b277d04798d91ef-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 03:26:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47F0E3BE79; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:26:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1259551607; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=gtNp7IOBBxNg1GS3ukUELYsJkro=; b=oQwrFlAwhMwbKQd+Lca/Qi7sVIq2mjAql6L5zWBupbsj5cAAxXFYLoqf4EPRfcTI Ipf5G5lkRh7sSMPN72A8z/iT3v4vk7IA11mQZG+luJgZuYTEZ7GFuwnaN+9hsBVa; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=FloFhzKaBEkA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=gLzebuI3oRVpn3o38wYA:9 a=JzMmrLhRDh9hc-xTs2cA:7 a=BZQ2BYplCOXHfX-CFaVZvcgfBhEA:4 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=IFrx35is2uDsHg3CHWIA:9 a=UAe7jPw9jq1MP9KYMVwA:7 a=emWBQzPDXiCLMZZMVhdOPID7ja4A:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <00ca01ca716d$3bbf57d0$32f63747@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9e0440a60911290850n601ce011t59846ca7cd65dcf0@mail.gmail.com> <8CC3F6D47DC5E3C-27B8-36B59@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: VirtualPostGigArchiveSpam: Jim Goodin - Jeff Duke - Music for a Saturday Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:28:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C7_01CA7143.5282C5D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:26:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01CA7143.5282C5D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tanx Michael! BTW, if you use Firefox and install the adblocker plugin, guess what? No = more ads! That includes ads on Ustream while viewing, I am now ad free!=20 peace out , J ----- Original Message -----=20 From: nemoguitt@aol.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:43 PM Subject: Re: VirtualPostGigArchiveSpam: Jim Goodin - Jeff Duke - Music = for a Saturday jim and 'ffff' this was fun but the ads on the bottom of the page were = a major distraction......althought the music did go with the J C PENNY = SNUGGIE ADS.....:).....great photos.....m ------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01CA7143.5282C5D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tanx Michael!
 
BTW, if you use Firefox and install the = adblocker=20 plugin, guess what? No more ads! That includes ads on Ustream while = viewing, I=20 am now ad free!
 
peace out ,
 
J
 
----- Original Message -----
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To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 = 7:43=20 PM
Subject: Re: = VirtualPostGigArchiveSpam:=20 Jim Goodin - Jeff Duke - Music for a Saturday

jim = and 'ffff'=20 this was fun but the ads on the bottom of the page were a major=20 distraction......althought the music did go with the J C PENNY SNUGGIE = ADS.....:).....great photos.....m

------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01CA7143.5282C5D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 04:51:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6D633BE78; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1823 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:51:33 UTC Message-Id: <66F7B359-D325-43C0-BE95-C4826D0535D1@theclaypools.com> From: Loren Claypool To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <669670.44888.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--72690173 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad?? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:21:07 -0600 References: <669670.44888.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:51:33 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--72690173 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott, Oh yeah, much fun. I've been running one in the effects loop of my POD X3 Pro for quite a while. I have 4 cables with RCA jacks on one end and 1/4" jacks on the other to run the unit in stereo. Occasionally I'll "play the pad" but most often will put it in "hold" mode and dial- in a tone with the pad. At the press of a button I can knock it out of the loop if I'm not using it. Heck the High Pass Filter is worth the price of admission. I added the appropriate Korg power supply for a few bucks. This past Friday I got a good deal on a KP3 after watching for one for several weeks. The KP3 allows for sampling and resampling, like the old Boss SP-303, and has a few other features. If you're just after the effects the miniKP gets the job done just fine. They are going for $119 new with no shipping on eBay. Commercial ON - I'm selling my miniKP with the powersupply on eBay now. - Commercial OFF. All the best, Loren Claypool genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there On Nov 29, 2009, at 8:07 PM, scott hansen wrote: > last night i watched a bunch of youtube clips of guitarists > playing w/ the korg mini-kaoss pad (w/ guitar) > wow, i thought the sounds coming out of that thing was amazing. > > has anyone played w/ one, experimented w/ one...it seemed to sound > better than > when i had the original kaoss pad yrs ago.. > > just curious if anyone had any experience w/ one..... > s--- > www.myspace.com/scotthansen > > --Apple-Mail-3--72690173 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Scott,

Oh = yeah, much fun. I've been running one in the effects loop of my POD X3 = Pro for quite a while. I have 4 cables with RCA jacks on one end = and 1/4" jacks on the other to run the unit in stereo. Occasionally = I'll "play the pad" but most often will put it in "hold" mode and = dial-in a tone with the pad. At the press of a button I can knock it out = of the loop if I'm not using it. Heck the High Pass Filter is worth the = price of admission. I added the appropriate Korg power supply for a = few bucks. 

This past Friday I got a good = deal on a KP3 after watching for one for several weeks. The KP3 = allows for sampling and resampling, like the old Boss SP-303, and has a = few other features. If you're just after the effects the miniKP = gets the job done just fine. They are going for $119 new with no = shipping on eBay. Commercial ON - I'm selling my miniKP with the = powersupply on eBay now. - Commercial = OFF.

All the = best,

Loren = Claypool
genre-indifferent instrumental guitar = music
www.lorenclaypool.com and = links from there
On Nov 29, 2009, at 8:07 PM, = scott hansen wrote:

last night i watched a = bunch of youtube clips of guitarists
playing w/ the korg = mini-kaoss pad (w/ guitar)
wow, i thought the sounds coming = out of that thing was amazing.
 
has anyone = played w/ one, experimented w/ one...it seemed to sound better = than
when i had the original kaoss pad yrs ago..
=
 
just curious if anyone had any experience w/ = one.....
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Thx -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 09:50:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 128A83BE73; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b971b593-1674-4b59-80ac-d0a85fce4b68_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad?? Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:50:16 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <66F7B359-D325-43C0-BE95-C4826D0535D1@theclaypools.com> References: <669670.44888.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,<66F7B359-D325-43C0-BE95-C4826D0535D1@theclaypools.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Nov 2009 09:50:17.0006 (UTC) FILETIME=[85643CE0:01CA71A2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:50:18 +0000 (UTC) --_b971b593-1674-4b59-80ac-d0a85fce4b68_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just a little side note........ the KP and Kaossilator both work fine powered by a Sony PSP handheld consoe= adapter I got one for each of mine for =A33 a piece with shipping from chi= na! the kp units are great but i have always found that they attenuate my signa= l a lot I have never tried running one in a mixer aux type situation but fo= r me the noise floor is enough to put me off using it more which is a shame= ......... also I spoke to a Korg guy at a trade show and surgested they made a KP3(L)= version with the L being for (LIVE) and having all jacks rather then RCAs = (HATE those things) and a more instrument orientated gain structure.. he ac= tually bothered to write down my feedback and also smiled a knowing smile..= heres hoping!! Phill From: looper@theclaypools.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad?? Date: Sun=2C 29 Nov 2009 22:21:07 -0600 Scott=2C Oh yeah=2C much fun. I've been running one in the effects loop of my POD X3= Pro for quite a while. I have 4 cables with RCA jacks on one end and 1/4" = jacks on the other to run the unit in stereo. Occasionally I'll "play the p= ad" but most often will put it in "hold" mode and dial-in a tone with the p= ad. At the press of a button I can knock it out of the loop if I'm not usin= g it. Heck the High Pass Filter is worth the price of admission. I added th= e appropriate Korg power supply for a few bucks.=20 This past Friday I got a good deal on a KP3 after watching for one for seve= ral weeks. The KP3 allows for sampling and resampling=2C like the old Boss = SP-303=2C and has a few other features. If you're just after the effects th= e miniKP gets the job done just fine. They are going for $119 new with no s= hipping on eBay. Commercial ON - I'm selling my miniKP with the powersupply= on eBay now. - Commercial OFF. All the best=2C Loren Claypoolgenre-indifferent instrumental guitar musicwww.lorenclaypool.= com and links from thereOn Nov 29=2C 2009=2C at 8:07 PM=2C scott hansen wro= te:last night i watched a bunch of youtube clips of guitarists playing w/ t= he korg mini-kaoss pad (w/ guitar) wow=2C i thought the sounds coming out o= f that thing was amazing. has anyone played w/ one=2C experimented w/ one= ...it seemed to sound better than when i had the original kaoss pad yrs ago= .. just curious if anyone had any experience w/ one..... s--- www.myspace= .com/scotthansen =20 =20 =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/= --_b971b593-1674-4b59-80ac-d0a85fce4b68_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just a little side note........

the KP and Kaossilator both work fin= e powered by a Sony PSP handheld consoe adapter I got one for each of mine = for =A33 a piece with shipping from china!

the kp units are great bu= t i have always found that they attenuate my signal a lot I have never trie= d running one in a mixer aux type situation but for me the noise floor is e= nough to put me off using it more which is a shame.........

also I s= poke to a Korg guy at a trade show and surgested they made a KP3(L) version= with the L being for (LIVE) and having all jacks rather then RCAs (HATE th= ose things) and a more instrument orientated gain structure.. he actually b= othered to write down my feedback and also smiled a knowing smile..heres ho= ping!!

Phill


From: looper@theclaypool= s.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: semi-OT: k= org mini-kaoss pad??
Date: Sun=2C 29 Nov 2009 22:21:07 -0600

Scot= t=2C

Oh yeah=2C much fun. I've been running one in the e= ffects loop of my POD X3 Pro for quite a while. =3BI have 4 cables with= RCA jacks on one end and 1/4" jacks on the other to run the unit in stereo= . =3BOccasionally I'll "play the pad" but most often will put it in "ho= ld" mode and dial-in a tone with the pad. At the press of a button I can kn= ock it out of the loop if I'm not using it. Heck the High Pass Filter is wo= rth the price of admission. =3BI added the appropriate Korg power suppl= y for a few bucks. =3B

This past Friday I got = a good deal on a KP3 after watching for one for several weeks. =3BThe K= P3 allows for sampling and resampling=2C like the old Boss SP-303=2C and ha= s a few other features. =3BIf you're just after the effects the miniKP = gets the job done just fine. They are going for $119 new with no shipping o= n eBay. Commercial ON - I'm selling my miniKP with the powersupply on eBay = now. - Commercial OFF.

All the best=2C

Loren Claypool
genre-indifferent instrumental guitar mus= ic
www.lorenclaypool.com= and links from there
On Nov 29=2C 2009=2C at 8:0= 7 PM=2C scott hansen wrote:

last night i watched a bunch of youtube c= lips of guitarists
playing w/ the korg mini-kaoss pad (w/ guitar= )
wow=2C i thought the sounds coming out of that thing was amazi= ng.
 =3B
has anyone played w/ one=2C experimented= w/ one...it seemed to sound better than
when i had the original= kaoss pad yrs ago..
 =3B
just curious if anyone = had any experience w/ one.....
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Spencer, Online Lottery Co-ordinator From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 09:59:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1B143BE7C; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:59:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_uMhI1a3vJeV2sifUA77atA)" Message-id: <58DBC541C12D4A79B1CF1B6641B711E9@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <669670.44888.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <66F7B359-D325-43C0-BE95-C4826D0535D1@theclaypools.com> Subject: Re: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad?? Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:59:53 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:59:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_uMhI1a3vJeV2sifUA77atA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Do DJs have drum machines going or do they make their mixes beforehand? = If they make the mixes ahead of time then it makes sense to use RCA = jacks because the sound would be coming out of a cd player or sound = card. Or turntable. I would have kept mine if it had not had the = attenuation and jack issues. toby ----- Original Message -----=20 From: phillip wilson=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:50 AM Subject: RE: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad?? just a little side note........ the KP and Kaossilator both work fine powered by a Sony PSP handheld = consoe adapter I got one for each of mine for =A33 a piece with shipping = from china! the kp units are great but i have always found that they attenuate my = signal a lot I have never tried running one in a mixer aux type = situation but for me the noise floor is enough to put me off using it = more which is a shame......... also I spoke to a Korg guy at a trade show and surgested they made a = KP3(L) version with the L being for (LIVE) and having all jacks rather = then RCAs (HATE those things) and a more instrument orientated gain = structure.. he actually bothered to write down my feedback and also = smiled a knowing smile..heres hoping!! Phill -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: looper@theclaypools.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad?? Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:21:07 -0600 Scott, Oh yeah, much fun. I've been running one in the effects loop of my POD = X3 Pro for quite a while. I have 4 cables with RCA jacks on one end and = 1/4" jacks on the other to run the unit in stereo. Occasionally I'll = "play the pad" but most often will put it in "hold" mode and dial-in a = tone with the pad. At the press of a button I can knock it out of the = loop if I'm not using it. Heck the High Pass Filter is worth the price = of admission. I added the appropriate Korg power supply for a few bucks. = This past Friday I got a good deal on a KP3 after watching for one for = several weeks. The KP3 allows for sampling and resampling, like the old = Boss SP-303, and has a few other features. If you're just after the = effects the miniKP gets the job done just fine. They are going for $119 = new with no shipping on eBay. Commercial ON - I'm selling my miniKP with = the powersupply on eBay now. - Commercial OFF. All the best, Loren Claypool genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there On Nov 29, 2009, at 8:07 PM, scott hansen wrote: last night i watched a bunch of youtube clips of guitarists playing w/ the korg mini-kaoss pad (w/ guitar) wow, i thought the sounds coming out of that thing was = amazing. has anyone played w/ one, experimented w/ one...it seemed to = sound better than when i had the original kaoss pad yrs ago.. just curious if anyone had any experience w/ one..... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- New! Receive and respond to mail from other email accounts from within = Hotmail Find out how. = --Boundary_(ID_uMhI1a3vJeV2sifUA77atA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Do DJs have drum machines going or do they make = their=20 mixes beforehand?  If they make the mixes ahead of time then it = makes sense=20 to use RCA jacks because the sound would be coming out of  a cd = player or=20 sound card.  Or turntable.  I would have kept mine if it had = not had=20 the attenuation and jack issues.
 
toby
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 phillip=20 wilson
To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 = 1:50=20 AM
Subject: RE: semi-OT: korg = mini-kaoss=20 pad??

just a little side note........

the KP and = Kaossilator=20 both work fine powered by a Sony PSP handheld consoe adapter I got one = for=20 each of mine for =A33 a piece with shipping from china!

the kp = units are=20 great but i have always found that they attenuate my signal a lot I = have never=20 tried running one in a mixer aux type situation but for me the noise = floor is=20 enough to put me off using it more which is a = shame.........

also I=20 spoke to a Korg guy at a trade show and surgested they made a KP3(L) = version=20 with the L being for (LIVE) and having all jacks rather then RCAs = (HATE those=20 things) and a more instrument orientated gain structure.. he actually = bothered=20 to write down my feedback and also smiled a knowing smile..heres=20 hoping!!

Phill


From: looper@theclaypools.com
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: semi-OT: korg = mini-kaoss=20 pad??
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:21:07 -0600

Scott,

Oh yeah, much fun. I've been running one in the effects loop of = my POD X3=20 Pro for quite a while. I have 4 cables with RCA jacks on one end = and 1/4"=20 jacks on the other to run the unit in stereo. Occasionally I'll = "play the=20 pad" but most often will put it in "hold" mode and dial-in a tone with = the=20 pad. At the press of a button I can knock it out of the loop if I'm = not using=20 it. Heck the High Pass Filter is worth the price of admission. I = added=20 the appropriate Korg power supply for a few bucks. 

This past Friday I got a good deal on a KP3 after watching for = one for=20 several weeks. The KP3 allows for sampling and resampling, like = the old=20 Boss SP-303, and has a few other features. If you're just after = the=20 effects the miniKP gets the job done just fine. They are going for = $119 new=20 with no shipping on eBay. Commercial ON - I'm selling my miniKP with = the=20 powersupply on eBay now. - Commercial OFF.

All the best,

Loren Claypool
genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music
www.lorenclaypool.com and=20 links from there
On Nov 29, 2009, at 8:07 PM, scott hansen wrote:
last night i watched a bunch of youtube clips of = guitarists
playing w/ the korg mini-kaoss pad (w/ guitar)
wow, i thought the sounds coming out of that thing was=20 amazing.
 
has anyone played w/ one, experimented w/ one...it seemed = to=20 sound better than
when i had the original kaoss pad yrs ago..
 
just curious if anyone had any experience w/ = one.....
s---
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New! Receive and respond to mail from other email accounts from within = Hotmail=20 Find=20 out how. --Boundary_(ID_uMhI1a3vJeV2sifUA77atA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 10:00:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15EB63BE7C; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:00:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <669670.44888.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad?? Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:00:44 +0100 Message-ID: <002501ca71a3$fb9563c0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01CA71AC.5D59CBC0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acpxo2omFDDk7DKxRBuS05pUA3R+jQAAEf6Q In-Reply-To: <669670.44888.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.1.78; VDF: 7.10.1.118) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:00:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01CA71AC.5D59CBC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit there's a ton of wild stuff in there. Big fun, definitely give it a try. Only drawback is that it seems to reduce the level - it sounds quite different to have it in your signal chain compared to not having it. Does anyone know a remedy for that? -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01CA71AC.5D59CBC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0026_01CA71AC.5D59CBC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 10:28:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2C473BE7C; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_yEFtli21xorFnP1rHK03Pg)" Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <669670.44888.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002501ca71a3$fb9563c0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad?? Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:28:33 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:28:35 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_yEFtli21xorFnP1rHK03Pg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Build a preamp. t ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Peters To: Loopers Delight Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 2:00 AM Subject: RE: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad?? there's a ton of wild stuff in there. Big fun, definitely give it a try. Only drawback is that it seems to reduce the level - it sounds quite different to have it in your signal chain compared to not having it. Does anyone know a remedy for that? -Michael --Boundary_(ID_yEFtli21xorFnP1rHK03Pg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
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there's a ton of wild stuff in there. Big fun, definitely give it a try. Only drawback is that it seems to reduce the level - it sounds quite different to have it in your signal chain compared to not having it. Does anyone know a remedy for that?
 
-Michael
--Boundary_(ID_yEFtli21xorFnP1rHK03Pg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 12:32:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 965AA3BE78; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:32:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=M1wgV7RNMcEOE6a7Yzz/zHjrDzt4+SB5XUp+ORN7xRk=; b=pjoQ/YA4Qyb4GDNbnD2zaZgfi5LFwe9hDSSgdy7mF3citw5a37iruDYq6Wa40QWake K2/eEZI2uZ4vbMR5vVChbLWQJwAr9rV34m735kwhqBt/F84KGzekJfFu0WYcQ5yMjtyZ sM6rif4guy1VC9a8Hcr1fGaDSoAl0l5/G/3cY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wycNe+OIPqtN9BenZvuGUUoWr3HNxdHMMKuHTlkdUvhUf/Z1FdnJ3Su9E2OJWs8Cva XdWyHYqFKtwn2+LdTjIoklfoTU6MW3G1U7/7wYZM/7XGi8dJqq3Ge1zV+9keYam8wV7A ZcGKVHDPRxN+P0l941A0qwvItELdzV/8hFXY4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:32:12 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911300432p71357b36j5748a652e7820fa7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: how to switch off autosave in Mainstage 2 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:32:13 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Does anybody know how to switch off autosave in Mainstage 2? Thx I didn't even know there is such a feature in it! Have never seen anything about it and on my computer Mainstage never saves anything unless I hit cmd-s or cmd-shift-s. A good habit when building a rig is to save to two documents with different names. That way you will always keep your last work even if you program something that makes the application crash during the save and renders the saved document corrupt. Just basic computing common sense, but it keeps saving my ass all the time ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 12:42:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFB7C3BE78; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:42:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1RGwiQ2nG0EA5KYVDy0POa2HcAXLMdf4oegb4fkhALY=; b=M0BTV0k7YNAyyuORTMi2D5ATkli2UNvq8Jt0cF3ATOvHdE2EYW3MG+wh9N3fKgznSN ET251UZNapuVi74LjkOxzsegNPOC7Z931iHHEaJ+MEfV1m/3MRSwAaZl0ZrLAk+oUno2 LkC2wZh1g978CBTpyKXmLtFQhR4Wu5YA6NOl0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=onK8XMS+icLGHU6ZX9aZJOYUReEuyXrDpLu5Enh4RO3BfAqQn+HNbZVMTsFACsRNUh ZocAiG6Or8foFhu7gRVRbM/zDT1D/i7Bi5skdAzoKdvwwCsFfsBZTw02XMnGYmNcae1D d1QWZoaH/J5S/ARlD7e9kChGVe/ZOxMBmZcC0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911300432p71357b36j5748a652e7820fa7@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0911300432p71357b36j5748a652e7820fa7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:42:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: how to switch off autosave in Mainstage 2 From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:42:53 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > I didn't even know there is such a feature in it! Have never seen > anything about it and on my computer Mainstage never saves anything > unless I hit cmd-s or cmd-shift-s. I didn't know about it until I (recently) noticed that MS showed an Autosave popup windows for 1-2 seconds. But it also hanged MS a couple of times. Might be an issue with one of my NI plugins, see http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2108652&tstart=0 I haven't tested it but it seems that you can turn it off (see info below). ---- Auto-save happens every 300 seconds. To disable it, you can set the time to 0 seconds, just enter the following line in Terminal.app: defaults write com.apple.mainstage autosavingDelay -float 0 To reset it, enter this: defaults delete com.apple.mainstage autosavingDelay ---- -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 15:06:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50E803BE78; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:06:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hbs5FQmneaDc6L9z89b6mEFk+xTo+26K8HboQHn0Y9E=; b=BviEcoibVxINooB7t5S0WZGjhvz96OCewsOHyLY7cNfoQDFvqvD/ECx2gi/8B65o3L Y73WQJMw68no+4pVn+Bcy5etg8P+s0tNmdPlEDPKklKJ1pAI7lNOZLof/MfBKDmkyuWO rj9zY5OE1p6YAx9RBw0D8Jmf+r+5n4wOEVqeQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KAsXjJWTdU3Xm0c9uRErCYZyfrt8laobxYz75WK7V72TChE/wPIeJhwegK70SuwURT kFbYVshQA90TQ6ufFd5oCwrpczaD/wuQfxnopVd/AhEmuOXnDUz4XqevA+v8JD06z8S0 rI0WPhtJDqCHtp2tpPhl4DOHODn1+8gnYwBUo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0911300432p71357b36j5748a652e7820fa7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:06:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: how to switch off autosave in Mainstage 2 From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7e06518843c047997fc3e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:06:26 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d7e06518843c047997fc3e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks for sharing, sjaak. 2009/11/30 Sjaak Overgaauw > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > I didn't even know there is such a feature in it! Have never seen > > anything about it and on my computer Mainstage never saves anything > > unless I hit cmd-s or cmd-shift-s. > > I didn't know about it until I (recently) noticed that MS showed an > Autosave popup windows for 1-2 seconds. But it also hanged MS a couple > of times. Might be an issue with one of my NI plugins, see > http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2108652&tstart=0 > > I haven't tested it but it seems that you can turn it off (see info below). > ---- > Auto-save happens every 300 seconds. > > To disable it, you can set the time to 0 seconds, just enter the > following line in Terminal.app: > defaults write com.apple.mainstage autosavingDelay -float 0 > > To reset it, enter this: > defaults delete com.apple.mainstage autosavingDelay > ---- > > -- > Sjaak Overgaauw > http://premonitionfactory.com/ > http://livelooping.be/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d7e06518843c047997fc3e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks for sharing, sjaak.

2009/11/30 Sja= ak Overgaauw <tc= plugin@gmail.com>
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I didn't even know there is such a feature in it! Have never seen<= br> > anything about it and on my computer Mainstage never saves anything > unless I hit cmd-s or cmd-shift-s.

I didn't know about it until I (recently) noticed that MS showed = an
Autosave popup windows for 1-2 seconds. But it also hanged MS a couple
of times. Might be an issue with one of my NI plugins, see
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?thre= adID=3D2108652&tstart=3D0

I haven't tested it but it seems that you can turn it off (see info bel= ow).
----
Auto-save happens every 300 seconds.

To disable it, you can set the time to 0 seconds, just enter the
following line in Terminal.app:
defaults write com.apple.mainstage autosavingDelay -float 0

To reset it, enter this:
defaults delete com.apple.mainstage autosavingDelay
----



--
Raul Bonell= at Blogger: http://raulbonell.b= logspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

--0016e6d7e06518843c047997fc3e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 15:18:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BDF53BE7E; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OzaEbp8fqA/J7ZHP3Z3n014HR1VcTSU4JjBRT0mLbnw=; b=X/P1W1l6w+hf+vLKaasF/7VSjKivf6GWCKcKai2iRzh2JBRrA1KH8aE3UIyhARMUY9 HsZoLIufEawN3nXLOU6V+1H+ahHcYNimyh32w6MZtGC699AOMskxapE+EyPD21FSuGDt ciWTmGy09JJUhDyX+1rn9PQf/BB8AR11ZvlVk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HyrpQdkCxe+327RuSPMVbC9dgEfEyktoTA7aFseZwvD9MkxhQF/IsRPb6qKnYaf99p X5QCKq3Z4kxqG0+GK1lQu2MVbUWdZai0sT+lcPK80y5bN0SVqLQF2zFnFYf8j2mSZUsb rm38cFr4ReO0oY9scSvuXW2ktI/0UAx4ua4+k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <669670.44888.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002501ca71a3$fb9563c0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:18:14 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad?? From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d588b976886c047998263c Resent-Message-ID: <-zsti.A.17D.5I-ELB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:18:18 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d588b976886c047998263c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ... some DI adapter, like those pricey radial engineering boxes, should do the trick. isn't? 2009/11/30 Toby G > Build a preamp. > > t > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Michael Peters > *To:* Loopers Delight > *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2009 2:00 AM > *Subject:* RE: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad?? > > there's a ton of wild stuff in there. Big fun, definitely give it a try. > Only drawback is that it seems to reduce the level - it sounds quite > different to have it in your signal chain compared to not having it. Does > anyone know a remedy for that? > > -Michael > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d588b976886c047998263c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... some DI adapter, like those pricey radial engineering boxes, should do = the trick. isn't?

2009/11/30 Toby G = <carpet8@mac.com>
Build a preamp.
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<= span>there's a ton o= f wild=20 stuff in there. Big fun, definitely give it a try. Only drawback is that = it=20 seems to reduce the level - it sounds quite different to have it in your= =20 signal chain compared to not having it. Does anyone know a remedy for=20 that?
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-Michael



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--0016e6d588b976886c047998263c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 15:38:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A2603BE81; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:38:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8KgbVtrmf2H6NBxLgDkiFXOaVkQXrZT+/z2KnvfOl1I=; b=GeVe73xmSK/laUoUZXWtS556JycfdidsoOAZeqNORS8Q8f+zK4GMPWokD0s7TK77OP QP65XtQH/v33h/uONWOJxXOHYTqQsUv5OKB0c/BzNwU5JPNeNWWVdo6d6gnpDBmEtrk4 1vn5NYd4D28lfidXP5yLUObFYA1TxRaB/t6OE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NoJFfpoAOh0dS+dq+fZFyY3LI5sickDs23Xuhx26AeLs8Hex71g35FksHO1oqMZLo2 7r3EB3x5Sax6ppMSWFDgwW29LkdS7zOQeaJOjYcZ2Qldfb38nKAmf86SXu5rjvo2K572 nL9jbDVyBFxrDcciBw+qsg+CBQj+O9QQDzhfk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:38:09 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: want to upgrade to logic 8 from 7.2 From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6da2e7eb395eb0479986dce Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:38:12 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6da2e7eb395eb0479986dce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 unfortunately, i think this upgrade has been discontinued. if anybody has done this and wants to sell on their disks, please let me know. i pay good price! many thanks simeon --0016e6da2e7eb395eb0479986dce Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 unfortunately, i think this upgrade has been discontinued. if anybody has done this and wants to sell on their disks, please let me know. i pay good price!

many thanks

simeon
--0016e6da2e7eb395eb0479986dce-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 15:49:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D77F73BE89; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:49:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=tRNad-qQFLwA:10 a=rLrzMCwZAAAA:8 a=VVlED5B4AAAA:8 a=mJmFn66vlfZks33eKckA:9 a=73uIsAmRtTHuD5jsDExo0aKAF5cA:4 Message-Id: <8B95EFC6-FAE3-42FD-893E-FDB078638E1D@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20091130081106.323100@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: Prog Rock in 5 minutes ;-) X-Priority: 3 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:49:22 -0800 References: <20091130081106.323100@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:49:23 +0000 (UTC) Quite humorous. I laughed 'til I cried. The "experimental" music music wing of the looping community is basically the "prog" wing. Guilty as charged. On Nov 30, 2009, at 12:11 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi folks > > I couldn't resist posting this... > http://www.cracked.com/funny-2359-progressive-rock/ > > A lot of this is valid for ambient looping, too, I guess ;-) > > have fun! > Buzap > -- > Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla > Firefox 3.5 - > sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 16:59:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69B143BE86; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5FB0756A-C4B3-4E80-BD5E-FA686E1777A8@johnfloridis.com> From: john floridis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8B95EFC6-FAE3-42FD-893E-FDB078638E1D@charter.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--27176900 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: Prog Rock in 5 minutes ;-) X-Priority: 3 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:59:40 -0700 References: <20091130081106.323100@gmx.net> <8B95EFC6-FAE3-42FD-893E-FDB078638E1D@charter.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:59:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--27176900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That Focus video is a must see. If I'm not mistaken that tune was actually a hit. I distinctly remember hearing it on the radio....as in top 40 radio, probably AM no less. How he hits those notes in that falsetto is beyond me. 1973?! 36 years ago?! I know my fellow 40 somethings will feel my disbelief that it's been that long! John --Apple-Mail-2--27176900 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That Focus video is a must see.  If I'm not mistaken that tune was actually a hit.  I distinctly remember hearing it on the radio....as in top 40 radio, probably AM no less.  How he hits those notes in that falsetto is beyond me.  1973?!  36 years ago?!  I know my fellow 40 somethings will feel my disbelief that it's been that long!

John
--Apple-Mail-2--27176900-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 17:02:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51DD63BE85; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GCjUagux6SGnZG6oXiBhCs8HJKBCGRjHmpkwRkl9iHg=; b=A7N434yM/kHqKJZsFduS+E8CwZhOkF/o2+FIzmNduROGrYesCL0jjwEdLc1SpSXTKP OzVcXe9rAhCg5bVaLhLznX/gPd70+pArf/x2vG8sklg0vUWPn7PIAS2z9yTuorrCHyjc 7NITOpDsLZRPxArJqRErc6T1RqoRb1pW2yxMk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EKy3uq/awUu3XyzA0Qr33GCkHlmytGfP0I9epfGeHE9o+TG8Flm/Fgmnl+ay0VeENl 7XiGphUaFmrzzl0/cUc6JYYcR7g7Ea7DFKlFwRazcJYnk/BYAinsvjazHPX6WCecK9Uq oTDQriJp4lTRyT8Zg66ELzieY31MU2hEgqsQQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20091130081106.323100@gmx.net> References: <20091130081106.323100@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:02:13 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911300902p7adf9c92jb153726102783678@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Prog Rock in 5 minutes ;-) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:02:16 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > I couldn't resist posting this... > http://www.cracked.com/funny-2359-progressive-rock/ Hilarious! This was the first I read as I came back from meeting The Mars Volta ;-)) LOL Seriously, I dug Jan Akkerman's guitar playing as well as the jazz based drumming in Focus Hokus Pokus back in the seventies. But as teenager I never understood why those older guys all had those stupid mustaches? Thought "that must be because they are Dutch or something". As for Thijs van Leer's jodling I took it for "just an accident due to bad taste" and skipped over that part when copying my listening cassette tapes for guitar studies. BTW here's a much better and fully modern fast-guitar-jodling as a comparison: http://www.youtube.com/user/sprugian#p/u/10/dILxkoTjtl8 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 17:08:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C94133BE89; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:08:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fSvUjzxLHgrE8bZumdtZHdKZKycveZelgoA1v7Ut2q0=; b=Oc8MYN5l2x7vY5J9PCm1DtgjTdm+cri3osjT2QRMFcHdtlCBu3acVfhpzY/p24gK0+ y75snCt2m8RbQZZSa85ovtg69zscmg76Mk68KbeINRq+sb6954/3TQ9lbDKPXMQUNlSR Wb5/dsTwbmnwQpEcgMtgW3QPEuTDVHe70rA2Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MNwDmYp6bWA8dWVX48V0DFnG+CqpdLDl3WReBITV84gvdvaQqJUVX3GVu2R8darWaM Zwvi6mxueKTdV3NXeP3b5bRW3GQfjlcGbQufbfbY8N+Vh7+8sCXzk8Qh65/1uX09zurJ igHQk/4owqEXtan5en+qgJwfMGFYSpdiGaekM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911300902p7adf9c92jb153726102783678@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091130081106.323100@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0911300902p7adf9c92jb153726102783678@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:08:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Prog Rock in 5 minutes ;-) From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <69qjeB.A.9X.5v_ELB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:08:09 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > But as > teenager I never understood why those older guys all had those stupid > mustaches? Thought "that must be because they are Dutch or something". Well, I'm Dutch we don't have a mustache nowadays ;-) -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 17:21:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E38C3BE8C; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:21:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SZ0b450PqE/TzlChTz+a5rnLmT7v7+u3KhVar+0LstU=; b=wDKn86kjj519vZfoKukzRpolIYdLbv68uGkrFXW+t7QCGVK6l8Se+5zcBjicAtQB5W /FEfFN22EH953Dq5eaP9F5vo8l4IXeKWgIbnITc00Dc9npuRHOCaRmBRCcaxuMYg+QVj q7LR0uyS1UMsImhWHEmDCggCHgHeTx6+WaXE0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WYjvD0KeY/YAZgFR2MfXarayCkBZ2WHzuYp7ORyErXithEIf/iImfxtFKu+TueF9Ln Bk4IMyT1DAcGUuqYQ7PiCjdIyPCUOu5SJmZa3SUjrehpYc0qRQEcSOEdurIv1s9Cg/jU WFn9jyKdY0QK8/NtS1pzhScwCTUP2gaUzbDh4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0911300432p71357b36j5748a652e7820fa7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:21:44 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911300921h5c877bcfu59ca8b2073cf8a72@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: how to switch off autosave in Mainstage 2 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:21:49 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for sharing that knowledge! I guess autosave is active in Edit Mode. But I hardly think it is active in Performance Mode or Full Screen Mode, because that would sort of defeat the purpose of the entire application. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > thanks for sharing, sjaak. > > 2009/11/30 Sjaak Overgaauw >> >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> > I didn't even know there is such a feature in it! Have never seen >> > anything about it and on my computer Mainstage never saves anything >> > unless I hit cmd-s or cmd-shift-s. >> >> I didn't know about it until I (recently) noticed that MS showed an >> Autosave popup windows for 1-2 seconds. But it also hanged MS a couple >> of times. Might be an issue with one of my NI plugins, see >> http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2108652&tstart=0 >> >> I haven't tested it but it seems that you can turn it off (see info >> below). >> ---- >> Auto-save happens every 300 seconds. >> >> To disable it, you can set the time to 0 seconds, just enter the >> following line in Terminal.app: >> defaults write com.apple.mainstage autosavingDelay -float 0 >> >> To reset it, enter this: >> defaults delete com.apple.mainstage autosavingDelay >> ---- >> >> -- >> Sjaak Overgaauw >> http://premonitionfactory.com/ >> http://livelooping.be/ >> http://euroloopfest.com/ >> > > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 18:20:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C80D63BE8B; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:20:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 298817849/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.246.14/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.246.14 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtsBAJ6bE0tPTvYO/2dsb2JhbAAImSDAK4QxBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,315,1257120000"; d="scan'208";a="298817849" Message-ID: <4B140CF9.4020605@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:20:41 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Gibson EDP/Allen&Heath Mixwizard question References: <302061.48788.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4B10F933.8060101@tiscali.co.uk> <1C35B0A7-83F3-4161-BD3F-0ED6404F17DC@comcast.net> <33D592F3-43D4-435A-BD27-2051639AE1C2@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <33D592F3-43D4-435A-BD27-2051639AE1C2@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:20:34 +0000 (UTC) you need to set the EDP Mix control full up (wet only) Todd Chambeau wrote: > Hey Andy, > > I spoke too soon. It works, however after I put down the original loop, > any overdubbing comes out extremely thin (EQ wise) the volume is there, > but it sounds like all of the mids and highs are turned to 10. > > I turned off all of the internal effects etc., and tried a couple of the > other aux channels, but no luck. > > Close but yet so far. > > Todd > > > > > On Nov 28, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Todd Chambeau wrote: > >> Thanks Andy, >> >> The A&H actually sends it's internal effects over aux 5&6. >> I ended up running the input to the EDP from Aux 1, then kept the >> output of the EDP to the Stereo Input and this does work, I have a wet >> loop. >> I am not really sure why this works, since I thought only Aux 5&6 were >> the routable internal effects auxes. Even on the effects list right, >> on top of the board, it has an option for one set of effects for Aux 5 >> and another for Aux 6? >> >> Thanks again for helping me out. >> Todd >> >> >> On Nov 28, 2009, at 5:19 AM, andy butler wrote: >> >>> Hi Todd, >>> >>> Firstly, let's assume that you're using the EDP on a send other than >>> Aux 5, which you also say is an internal fx send. >>> >>> The whole secret is that you don't *need* to use an input intended for >>> fx return to bring an fx back into the mixer. >>> Bring them back on a regular channel, and then you can do any additional >>> routing with ease >>> >>> >>> For full flexibility you need to route the Mixer's FX out of the mixer, >>> and bring them back on a regular fx channel. I don't know your >>> specific mixer, so I can't tell you if that's >>> possible. >>> However, if the internal fx has a send to a particular Aux then just >>> put the EDP on that Aux and you're sorted. >>> >>> >>> If the internal fx only go to the main output and nowhere else >>> then your only option is to bring the EDP back on Channel 3 >>> and add your fx onto the dry audio in the looper, that's not >>> going to get the exact sound you want in the case that you're looping >>> both guitar and voice, but then it's the best you're gonna get. >>> >>> andy butler >>> >>> >>> Todd Chambeau wrote: >>>> Looperz, >>>> I am looping just an acoustic guitar and vocal with my echoplex >>>> through a Allen & Heath Mixwizard 16:2. >>>> I am utilizing the A&H's dual effects through auxes 5&6. Basically, >>>> giving my acoustic on channel one a slap delay, vocals on channel 2 >>>> with a hall reverb. >>>> The A&H's effects are audible until I loop, then the signals become >>>> dry. I would like to have the loops wet. >>>> The EDP's input is patched to Aux 5 on the back of the mixer and the >>>> EDP's output is patched to ST1in also on the back of the mixer. >>>> I've tried patching the EDP differently with no luck. >>>> I never really utilized the A&H"s effects until now and for the life >>>> of me, I cannot figure this out. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Todd >>> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 18:20:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 931C03BE94; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wn5gLpT8hJYeQ4qRtKswBKgLWzwRsgEN0mw49MvyTH4=; b=ma+2+20ni91vkFI9BAVuFTN+HRdTwb8eiF43KDuFQwwWk1ZkE427KglgPGxs/79cT+ 7CVZSleAhM1efOVnsE9rs6USqr/CVCtMT+NK9NjZAT3+USF7uLnnGEJqsmquCYFq1LTE N1fofonSA0xLxLw1BUuTPcWJpNjqkLSnXOlsA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fW1ofeg+SNL8RFuNgr6/62bBGeIhNgBOAUumxuWXzWF+tjI+Ic+QCdUpV7V9ykHcy1 w6aH2WuJjn5p2m3598la+wtPqYYconamirCS2eE47eQE/D5hCpjzTZ9snS9CR0g9LXLP GzA/gmXfmLg5yqr6QvqS0GjxRwPC1L1cZeC5M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <00ca01ca716d$3bbf57d0$32f63747@YOUR08D5303051> References: <9e0440a60911290850n601ce011t59846ca7cd65dcf0@mail.gmail.com> <8CC3F6D47DC5E3C-27B8-36B59@webmail-m046.sysops.aol.com> <00ca01ca716d$3bbf57d0$32f63747@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:20:40 -0800 Message-ID: <3fa302e30911301020g630576a8i2904d14964fefd01@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: VirtualPostGigArchiveSpam: Jim Goodin - Jeff Duke - Music for a Saturday From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e649b702f0af7004799ab2be Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:20:42 +0000 (UTC) --0016e649b702f0af7004799ab2be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just want to second those props on that last DukeGood sesh! Great continuity and nice transitions, cool sounds. I'll try the adblocker plugin too. Pretty much one-stop shopping with you guys eh? -m On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Tanx Michael! > > BTW, if you use Firefox and install the adblocker plugin, guess what? No > more ads! That includes ads on Ustream while viewing, I am now ad free! > > peace out , > > J > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* nemoguitt@aol.com > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:43 PM > *Subject:* Re: VirtualPostGigArchiveSpam: Jim Goodin - Jeff Duke - Music > for a Saturday > > jim and 'ffff' this was fun but the ads on the bottom of the page were a > major distraction......althought the music did go with the J C PENNY SNUGGIE > ADS.....:).....great photos.....m > > --0016e649b702f0af7004799ab2be Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just want to second those props on that last DukeGood sesh! Great continuit= y and nice transitions, cool sounds.=A0 I'll try the adblocker plugin t= oo.=A0 Pretty much one-stop shopping with you guys eh?=A0 -m

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jim and= 'ffff'=20 this was fun but the ads on the bottom of the page were a major=20 distraction......althought the music did go with the J C PENNY SNUGGIE=20 ADS.....:).....great photos.....m
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 19:35:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3AB53BE94; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259609751; bh=xQ5IK8i0Hq7drpsdt9shChs2I7diCBqz5lDWtJPlvh0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aZqe7sgDtS9o9SSgMEw3mj1zlN4sQFvJrEn9oYKJaV7zEfj8TKesi+0pkTU6FCpmEMnoaVyFL35bY4S2b3hkxC55s/VQEr/eRg/CxCyMvpuaE1SU4TqgSGieAEHNHZML5k2PgN3r6YSRdhpObMKbrawTmUK1TIuxvOJ8Vl60xJ8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=k5sJ6W7D2maQN5Wtn9P4ZsNGBLFkB3KJwa4H9LW1Ebs8hfWZIj82Tyf+wM1WUEQTbUcTwcyJEreZjVoci4S9SFvX8VccIlwlz1T8Y9QAOu/ciOjpGHOVXGVg94fEEMFeyp1zOgWdadm6a6XWa0UQJEdHUcs+boghxKN8C8sU7hI=; Message-ID: <785725.36610.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Q9DuNHMVM1m4_sIoG.l71vhd0gdM5tyFrVn7Jm4GNd3J9xylFi3b0annT0IKWwTdrLFf7WEzJaVtv_E1ZmaokockYM1ysOthPjb6Y5L7fi3Nf.teeOG3Kx7BBk0CVvp9LJzrJpRQaeUMcQXUFw0DZ4b94A3ruTTjpbDsxG0jdo4ZMmDcfxFEo0CWAMB0onak9deldmudwZtpRIqYmp_24zZ4r9JCmGDLHrfCEMQFqzBZZtk5sgIgUNT7Abpfskpbwm9myW1i9Y42GFrC82sx1xrc3Pe0uLj7txAQVRlEpjz19ZIb7stUFNGLQW0PMvEhOch27EFQZ4sW6ezOXjivit0tNw9D4Pl0F1F68gDI_f7vPZPG6TJ_krbc7dZrjf0AwFaWv5onUnRnOY6B6DLUoIrC6DGT.WV2Kd7s7IV3Z1KsazarTrmsYMI6qq0PXdN0qEyiahcoXk.qF3Eg.AiPrjye_KYJ X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:35:51 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: Re: OT: Prog Rock in 5 minutes ;-) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20091130081106.323100@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:35:52 +0000 (UTC) About a few months back, I'd written a send up, poking fun at Prog Rock. Besides the fact that I am a closet Prog fan(not really a closet one if I just admitted to it), I also have a sense of humor. I wrote a paragraph depicting a summary of what Prog was, and then made a list of like 40 things or more of what makes you Prog, kind of like Jeff Foxworthy's version of you might be a Redneck if... I laughed till I was crying for two reasons, One, they hit the nail on the head about Prog, and two, they covered about everything I had written and then some(and made it funnier). If you are interested, and if I can find the paragraph I wrote, I can reproduce it here. But here were some examples: You might be Prog if.. Even though your music is complex and mind boggling, your concerts are so boring, that you require a dazzling light and laser show, flying inflatable animals or mascots(Floyd and Maiden come to mind) or dancing naked Amazon women(Hawkwind anyone?) to keep the audience from leaving your shows well rested. Your keyboardist has a Mellotron If you dumb down your song arrangements, a 40 piece orchestra could play them. your band leader could very well be a cult leader, if he weren't your band leader(Fripp) your band has more sophisticated technology than the studio in which they recorded. That's all I have for now, thanks for that post. Brian --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Buzap Buzap wrote: > From: Buzap Buzap > Subject: OT: Prog Rock in 5 minutes ;-) > To: "LD LoopersDelight" > Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 2:11 AM > Hi folks > > I couldn't resist posting this... > http://www.cracked.com/funny-2359-progressive-rock/ > > A lot of this is valid for ambient looping, too, I guess > ;-) > > have fun! > Buzap > -- > Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und > Mozilla Firefox 3.5 - > sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 19:40:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDC4E3BEA9; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <20091130081106.323100@gmx.net> <8B95EFC6-FAE3-42FD-893E-FDB078638E1D@charter.net> <5FB0756A-C4B3-4E80-BD5E-FA686E1777A8@johnfloridis.com> In-Reply-To: <5FB0756A-C4B3-4E80-BD5E-FA686E1777A8@johnfloridis.com> Subject: Re: OT: Prog Rock in 5 minutes ;-) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:39:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Yes, it was indeed a big hit in its day... They had another hit though not as big, on the same album ("Moving Waves"?) I remember catching them on the old "In Concert" show ABC used to run on Friday nights, with a stereo simulcast (gasp!) on WABC-FM (later WPLJ, could be something else by now. Oh wait, everything's Clear Channel now, isn't it?). Wasn't that a youthful Della Reese introducing them? Yikes, I'm going to be 53 at the end of December. Who cares? My fingers still work on a guitar despite numerous stupid injuries. :P From: john floridis Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:59 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Prog Rock in 5 minutes ;-) That Focus video is a must see. If I'm not mistaken that tune was actually a hit. I distinctly remember hearing it on the radio....as in top 40 radio, probably AM no less. How he hits those notes in that falsetto is beyond me. 1973?! 36 years ago?! I know my fellow 40 somethings will feel my disbelief that it's been that long! John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 19:51:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EADF63BEA0; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <1133B3C4-4450-46BE-A9E0-7153BB3D9F11@johnfloridis.com> From: john floridis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: OT: Prog Rock in 5 minutes ;-) X-Priority: 3 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:51:47 -0700 References: <20091130081106.323100@gmx.net> <8B95EFC6-FAE3-42FD-893E-FDB078638E1D@charter.net> <5FB0756A-C4B3-4E80-BD5E-FA686E1777A8@johnfloridis.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:51:48 +0000 (UTC) "Wasn't that a youthful Della Reese introducing them? " I was thinking it was maybe Gladys Night...... John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 21:23:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70F0F3BE93; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:23:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=V0vVfGr8sdTrKMKN+vY+NylKHS8DypEDQesNHbM/2ZM=; b=BeQEDvizG0X2JeC4ukR6rGIg+EUTKUDRvrPJBLG83m8GqqTSFIz6s0jYr3qYfOVQtv foG4/p6O/4/XBVYVoLuDpDLM0lCqQXqx2EYB1d/88XCOHMIe71BY+8rLQaWwuVwFnKmy VC7JKmDylAyaGudjB/tYa960nKYYHoBDDaY4M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=crYmqzeQW43ArZdH0Ey+e3ISHjWGekVmO8NF8REBYtz3/9kQV1hR4cbwnmDLR8unSM ibs1RZIZR9WZiMwJTQtdJRoteZ1/tf7O/Y4ji22tMVSLhmtHbEHjlDokqGX3LukSHiUn 8FzCukkP+30/Rl6OGHKC8y0v/ehlXoFMf8Yts= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1133B3C4-4450-46BE-A9E0-7153BB3D9F11@johnfloridis.com> References: <20091130081106.323100@gmx.net> <8B95EFC6-FAE3-42FD-893E-FDB078638E1D@charter.net> <5FB0756A-C4B3-4E80-BD5E-FA686E1777A8@johnfloridis.com> <1133B3C4-4450-46BE-A9E0-7153BB3D9F11@johnfloridis.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:23:53 -0800 Message-ID: <3fa302e30911301323g5d392722wefc0d0cbeeff2069@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Prog Rock in 5 minutes ;-) From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e648d81a2063c904799d4267 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:23:57 +0000 (UTC) --0016e648d81a2063c904799d4267 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Despite the bulky, byzantine, laughable facade of Prog, therein lies the ongoing quest for creating entire worlds in sound (and sometimes theatre). Gentle Giant, Hatfield and the North, Van Der Graff Generator? Not gathering dust in my collection! I consider Soft Machine, Matching Mole, Carla Bley's "Escalator Over The Hill" to be bastard offspring of Prog. Even Magma seems closely linked, if only in spirit. The Lunar Asylum? Alien Bipolar Prog!!! -- Mikko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" --0016e648d81a2063c904799d4267 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Despite the bulky, byzantine, laughable facade of Prog, therein lies the on= going quest for creating entire worlds in sound (and sometimes theatre). Ge= ntle Giant, Hatfield and the North, Van Der Graff Generator? Not gathering = dust in my collection!=A0 I consider Soft Machine, Matching Mole, Carla Ble= y's "Escalator Over The Hill" to be bastard offspring of Prog= . Even Magma seems closely linked, if only in spirit.=A0 The Lunar Asylum?= =A0 Alien Bipolar Prog!!!
--
Mikko Biffle
Biffoz@Gmail.com
http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz
"Running scar= ed from all the usual distractions!"
--0016e648d81a2063c904799d4267-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 21:46:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CFBB3BE9E; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:46:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259617603; bh=ZsZ1DkHBAwTpYeq6sGnCjdVs5RZXB5QWf3i8BrJc4Zs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IYCZX5Y5fnimg+C4Ic5g4ObMOJeU58OoRMuu+EelY9vKeqsX/KBfB2OH3w1snZ0A37AdeDUY1+5NJx+JqFRjBz4DMVui8i8CTk2bBfzSQ+eq5kUZGSdvSnnaERXtx8daugi8qOULKKzwPicTMqGsw9mf6QWP7tP0sGeuQngXIUA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IydlPDFgTlNYHgKJOEODMc2pmdKSfYYEu2m68w+m/SR+eEVhxiq8qdCtQYbXBnSXsrCIlXyq9BhEYoAQ+//PwuUJRuW1lN8Qt120BLWQj74Pt6ZJ7lrQzF7Jg609o0BeRur92Wt45N/Cv/lYxxPc6D/RTCYzGhip0EwxitgHL/A=; Message-ID: <476282.88605.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: wq2qjIoVM1lblznL8PVvrACchEbC0w_FgOquyPOtaPjSn89q8GFmFaOm8gqp49QcW1Pg8qdMTHEs48h.Tn6WGf1ngs6JdpOC7mVoEBQJk15iSin1pAfhb4gZQ80BGp1zIbmDUj4maj4kyNSrwNXpJDYa7EmVMVwITRuSCw1vJoEZ85wsp3CXzipkmh5NIK7W81BKkb6e3CxNm9zgMAhtkXs3f7XSBZ1QqnpuBwQxECGK99lhdqiYkKFnPapKgsQ9E1JldkSMWEEtcyNPPbyN_VK46RuLlqIXN4zEpmkBCOlggPilR3s64PivjdiFlHx1hVpsiHAgUAA8XCE7EhFUI6Kvo3.Hjq2tzpnu7TpZkM0T7IuBrgZmcEOpCyJDZXp0wQmPL1zPNaFU.Kfl5ChT7NQxpqhDOZc8TyIk245UWnqjTJ.bwF5PzkRcWTN58E5d96OXPa2aZzwxCe72oA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:46:43 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: Re: OT: Prog Rock in 5 minutes ;-) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30911301323g5d392722wefc0d0cbeeff2069@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <66Id4D.A.syE.E1DFLB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:46:44 +0000 (UTC) what's funny about this thread, is after recently purchasing(if you can cal= l getting it for free a purchase), an 80s Yamaha FB01 tone module and build= ing a pedalboard with stompboxes that'll help create some interesting tones= , I was going to set up and record a live looping movement based heavily in= Prog, granted, there's ony so much you can do while looping, but I kept th= e term epic, nay, overblown in mind. --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Miko Biffle wrote: > From: Miko Biffle > Subject: Re: OT: Prog Rock in 5 minutes ;-) > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 3:23 PM > Despite the bulky, byzantine, laughable > facade of Prog, therein lies the ongoing quest for creating > entire worlds in sound (and sometimes theatre). Gentle > Giant, Hatfield and the North, Van Der Graff Generator? Not > gathering dust in my collection!=A0 I consider Soft Machine, > Matching Mole, Carla Bley's "Escalator Over The > Hill" to be bastard offspring of Prog. Even Magma seems > closely linked, if only in spirit.=A0 The Lunar Asylum?=A0 > Alien Bipolar Prog!!! >=20 > --=20 > Mikko Biffle > Biffoz@Gmail.com > http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz > "Running scared from all the usual > distractions!" >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 22:04:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9253A3BE99; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Todd Chambeau To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4B140CF9.4020605@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Gibson EDP/Allen&Heath Mixwizard question Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:04:54 -0500 References: <302061.48788.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4B10F933.8060101@tiscali.co.uk> <1C35B0A7-83F3-4161-BD3F-0ED6404F17DC@comcast.net> <33D592F3-43D4-435A-BD27-2051639AE1C2@comcast.net> <4B140CF9.4020605@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Hey Andy, I actually just figured it out (I did have the EDP's mix all the way up). The A&H's effects route through Auxes 5&6. I had the EDP going to Aux 5. The problem turns out that I have to also turn up Aux 4, to make the sound full again. I am just guessing, but Aux 4 probably mixes in the unlooped signal, thus making it sound full? Anyway, it works and thanks for all of your help. Todd On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:20 PM, andy butler wrote: > you need to set the EDP Mix control full up > (wet only) > > > > Todd Chambeau wrote: >> Hey Andy, >> I spoke too soon. It works, however after I put down the original >> loop, any overdubbing comes out extremely thin (EQ wise) the volume >> is there, but it sounds like all of the mids and highs are turned >> to 10. >> I turned off all of the internal effects etc., and tried a couple >> of the other aux channels, but no luck. >> Close but yet so far. >> Todd >> On Nov 28, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Todd Chambeau wrote: >>> Thanks Andy, >>> >>> The A&H actually sends it's internal effects over aux 5&6. >>> I ended up running the input to the EDP from Aux 1, then kept the >>> output of the EDP to the Stereo Input and this does work, I have a >>> wet loop. >>> I am not really sure why this works, since I thought only Aux 5&6 >>> were the routable internal effects auxes. Even on the effects list >>> right, on top of the board, it has an option for one set of >>> effects for Aux 5 and another for Aux 6? >>> >>> Thanks again for helping me out. >>> Todd >>> >>> >>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 5:19 AM, andy butler wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Todd, >>>> >>>> Firstly, let's assume that you're using the EDP on a send other >>>> than >>>> Aux 5, which you also say is an internal fx send. >>>> >>>> The whole secret is that you don't *need* to use an input >>>> intended for >>>> fx return to bring an fx back into the mixer. >>>> Bring them back on a regular channel, and then you can do any >>>> additional >>>> routing with ease >>>> >>>> >>>> For full flexibility you need to route the Mixer's FX out of the >>>> mixer, >>>> and bring them back on a regular fx channel. I don't know your >>>> specific mixer, so I can't tell you if that's >>>> possible. >>>> However, if the internal fx has a send to a particular Aux then >>>> just put the EDP on that Aux and you're sorted. >>>> >>>> >>>> If the internal fx only go to the main output and nowhere else >>>> then your only option is to bring the EDP back on Channel 3 >>>> and add your fx onto the dry audio in the looper, that's not >>>> going to get the exact sound you want in the case that you're >>>> looping >>>> both guitar and voice, but then it's the best you're gonna get. >>>> >>>> andy butler >>>> >>>> >>>> Todd Chambeau wrote: >>>>> Looperz, >>>>> I am looping just an acoustic guitar and vocal with my echoplex >>>>> through a Allen & Heath Mixwizard 16:2. >>>>> I am utilizing the A&H's dual effects through auxes 5&6. >>>>> Basically, giving my acoustic on channel one a slap delay, >>>>> vocals on channel 2 with a hall reverb. >>>>> The A&H's effects are audible until I loop, then the signals >>>>> become dry. I would like to have the loops wet. >>>>> The EDP's input is patched to Aux 5 on the back of the mixer and >>>>> the EDP's output is patched to ST1in also on the back of the >>>>> mixer. >>>>> I've tried patching the EDP differently with no luck. >>>>> I never really utilized the A&H"s effects until now and for the >>>>> life of me, I cannot figure this out. >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Todd >>>> >>> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 30 22:24:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 827043BEB6; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:24:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1259619865; bh=K/XVn8HjygsOGvWOMEtU3+zr6uUPW0BgX1UwK/2GlRw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=spY39fQI0+Ij44JKZhO5QebrY6/oaf5nzH3jYlWzEJ3KUJvB/8LIy7Q5vqBeepXLmIhCZDJRJG+K7LaXkxGgQ2iaNWW4T2WxwwSEvpEGYA+VuYuJohGfnznt37D4ajY7DEGGTOAhdM/iM19D3yLizjPUEGJOeExREY9BfVxdXKY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=F2Wm1S7vhy9Uh4d3egrhHdhhLlMNmkuxOljiRDfSAmtInvsbftqjgkXBoSRT9irLI8P+9K9J7nDSd0tcLkW3daa5bHeZEiJ/5mwz4Ilg9XwxlwBrKcNHOVzyG4bGSZLwdjxSqFv0t8nemMwsw/Kz6PngTvxWkI1u7+8OvSPCgbM=; Message-ID: <590298.41984.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: YUI0AH4VM1ljuGjZM8l_0EYqdHHuIxZ2QLMQxs5eC1_mVVvdmiqIWownbLKNDXj3ey3OIDvX4c1FxvxcNgkTV17zCb5FJN26VF1Yuoeeycd6FDwizLAQFENesYCzC_f6K5lRO59yO8hYhz7ENsjDQxL0XUPbv6ynkRWLkan3kQ4O_HozoZyACHg7eupj3qxMBnmCqRe5lGaRPh9ypmEO41jIWxPoswtFTm53DeVtpzo18hUsUWfI.9aORwgM.CE.egBvkuOeLtCpXAPH_.dRywV6SbONr1imMewohfWdaJeVq9adDT_ksJCm3p9bvg2zX7Sx_7velwhkT25f8T.Bjgv24_GL62qSqFTYcCYMm.hCeDkH15kjayM_f58yo0GJSigC0O_Oc5fSsvrMRjnGmnxZCvheyvJiv8coL3j7EXt74Co03MnGaj8bw6fzTNf6Bh0OX5otm38vwkMk_Mwx8OnGlyiqhd5aJ_zL6zVi7hq_hC5F6XECaK319HLLMafTanPQRPkVR4M0hCEGQR14NWjedtsjB8okYsXTtWL1QDce71UFcw0qX0zaUYv62ZH4ImbtYTU0l1INMkuY0u7ha_bgFGJpfQjpVcITftnVD.DvIGMxOG8Zvf1kgAcBp6zFjMDwENU- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:24:25 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Uccello Subject: Uccello Project House Concert DEC 12th 7:30pm Seaside, CA To: stephenbassuccello@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-653852705-1259619865=:41984" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/96099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:24:26 +0000 (UTC) --0-653852705-1259619865=:41984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all!=20 =A0=A0=A0 -Steve Uccello here letting you know that I will=0Abe performing = at a house concert in Seaside on December 12th, 7:30 pm=0Aand I'd love to s= ee you there! =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I'll be playing=0AUpright Bass, Dobro = Slide Bass, Acoustic Guitar, 5 String Fretless=0AElectric Bass, and a bit o= f percussion.=A0 This show will feature the art=0Aof Live Looping, which is= the process of recording oneself and playing=0Ait back on the spot to be l= ayered up upon. There will also be a couple=0Aspecial guests playing a few = songs with me, including my wife, Kathy,=0AMandolin.=A0 The show will be mo= stly instrumental with a few vocal tunes=0Apeppered in.=A0 If you're curiou= s to hear/see some of the music you'll be=0Ain for, you can check out some = of my videos here: Guitar & pizzed Upright Bass:=A0=20 http://www.youtube.com/user/UccelloProject#p/u/3/63XmxPl8fDo Electric Bass w/ lots of harmonics & bowed Upright Bass: http://www.youtube.com/user/UccelloProject#p/u/4/xK9oOzruAT4 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=0AThe show will be at our midwife, Maggie Benne= tt's, house in Seaside,=0ACA, near Monterey on the central coast.=A0 Maggie= delivered our daughter=0AViola, and is an amazing woman-here's a link to h= er website-definitely=0Aworth a look:=A0 http://www.gentlebirth.net/ =A0=A0=A0=A0 Show details:=0Athere is a suggested donation of $12 (which in= cludes refreshments too)=0ATo get the address please RSVP by replying to th= is email or calling me=0Aat 831-801-4920.=A0=20 Thanks for your time and I hope this email finds you all well!! -Steve=0A U= ccello http://www.steveuccello.com http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/=0A=0A=0A --0-653852705-1259619865=:41984 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= /table>
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Hello all!

    -Steve = Uccello here letting you know that I will=0Abe performing at a house concer= t in Seaside on December 12th, 7:30 pm=0Aand I'd love to see you there!
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            = ; I'll be playing=0AUpright Bass, Dobro Slide Bass, Acoustic Guitar, 5 Stri= ng Fretless=0AElectric Bass, and a bit of percussion.  This show will = feature the art=0Aof Live Looping, which is the process of recording onesel= f and playing=0Ait back on the spot to be layered up upon. There will also = be a couple=0Aspecial guests playing a few songs with me, including my wife= , Kathy,=0AMandolin.  The show will be mostly instrumental with a few = vocal tunes=0Apeppered in.  If you're curious to hear/see some of the = music you'll be=0Ain for, you can check out some of my videos here:

= Guitar & pizzed Upright Bass: 

http://www.youtube.com/user= /UccelloProject#p/u/3/63XmxPl8fDo

Electric Bass w/ lots of harmonics= & bowed Upright Bass:

http://www.youtube.com/user/UccelloProjec= t#p/u/4/xK9oOzruAT4

        =  =0AThe show will be at our midwife, Maggie Bennett's, house in Seasid= e,=0ACA, near Monterey on the central coast.  Maggie delivered our dau= ghter=0AViola, and is an amazing woman-here's a link to her website-definit= ely=0Aworth a look:  http://www.gentlebirth.net/

  &n= bsp;  Show details:=0Athere is a suggested donation of $12 (which incl= udes refreshments too)=0ATo get the address please RSVP by replying to this= email or calling me=0Aat 831-801-4920. 

Thanks for your time = and I hope this email finds you all well!! -Steve=0A Uccello

http://= www.steveuccello.com
http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/