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--0-392476013-1257053749=:90261-- From larry@info.net Sun Nov 1 08:19:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:19:06 UTC Received: from mail.stanneswausau.org (24-197-228-230.static.stpt.wi.charter.com [24.197.228.230]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010833BE78 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([63.209.154.10] RDNS failed) by mail.stanneswausau.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 1 Nov 2009 02:03:14 -0600 Reply-To: From: "Barr: Larry White" Subject: LARRY WHITE& ASSOCIATES Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:02:57 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2009 08:03:15.0083 (UTC) FILETIME=[C3A5CDB0:01CA5AC9] To: undisclosed-recipients:;
LARRY WHITE& ASSOCIATES
(Will, Finance& Probate Solicitors)
Tel/Fax: 44 7035 99 1522
 
Compliment,
I know that this mail will come to you as a surprise, Please accept the content in good faith.
I do not intend to cause any grief to you and your family.
 
The reason for sending this mail is very fundamental to the doctrine of human privileges and right.
My name is Barrister Larry White a legal practitioner based in London and the personal Attorney to late Mr. Adams, a national of your country who died along with his wife and two sons who died in the Tube explosion between King's Cross-and Russell Square in London.
 
My client was a successful and is an accomplished family man, who made enough fortune before his untimely death.
Since then I had made several Inquiries through your Embassy to locate any of my clients extended relative but this exercise has proved unsuccessful.
After several unsuccessful attempts, I decided to trace his relatives through the Internet, to locate any member of his family, not much progress was recorded.
My late client was an influential wealthy businessman, an oil magnet here in London and he left behind a deposit of fifteen Million United State Dollars only 15,000,000.00 (USD) in his domiciliary bank account in a commercial bank here in London.
After the death of my client his bankers contacted me, as his Attorney to provide his next of kin who should inherit his funds.
The board of directors of his bank adopted a resolution and I was mandated to provide his next of kin for the payment of this money within 28 Working days or forfeit the money to the bank as an abandoned property.
The bankers had planned to invoke the abandoned property decree of 1996 to confiscate the funds after the expiration of the period given to me.
 
Fortunately, I came across your name, to my greatest astonishment, I discovered that you bear the same surname with my late client and coincidentally, you are national of the same country.
Being convinced that you may be related with my late client or that you might provide clue to my search, I therefore, decided to contact with these facts before me, because of the similarities.
By virtue of my closeness to the deceased and his immediate family, I am very much aware of my client financial standing and the bank account he operates.
 
I have reasoned very professionally and I feel it will be legally proper to present you as the next of kin of my deceased client, so that you can be paid the funds left in his bank account.
I therefore seek your consent to present you as the Next of Kin to the Deceased since you are at an advantage,
bearing the same surname and equally from the same country that the proceeds of this Bank Account valued at $15,000,000.00 (USD) can be paid to you. We shall both share the funds. 40% for me and 55% to you, while 5% should be for Expenses or your Government may require as Tax.
 
I shall assemble all the necessary Legal Documents that will be used to back up our claim.
All I require is your honest cooperation to enable us seeing this deal through.
I guarantee that this will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of law.
Your swift response is anticipated.
Mr. LARRY WHITE
 From larry@info.net Sun Nov 1 08:19:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 482 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:19:09 UTC Received: from mail.stanneswausau.org (24-197-228-230.static.stpt.wi.charter.com [24.197.228.230]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019103BE78 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:19:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([63.209.154.10] RDNS failed) by mail.stanneswausau.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 1 Nov 2009 02:03:14 -0600 Reply-To: From: "Barr: Larry White" Subject: LARRY WHITE& ASSOCIATES Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:02:57 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2009 08:03:15.0083 (UTC) FILETIME=[C3A5CDB0:01CA5AC9] To: undisclosed-recipients:;
LARRY WHITE& ASSOCIATES
(Will, Finance& Probate Solicitors)
Tel/Fax: 44 7035 99 1522
 
Compliment,
I know that this mail will come to you as a surprise, Please accept the content in good faith.
I do not intend to cause any grief to you and your family.
 
The reason for sending this mail is very fundamental to the doctrine of human privileges and right.
My name is Barrister Larry White a legal practitioner based in London and the personal Attorney to late Mr. Adams, a national of your country who died along with his wife and two sons who died in the Tube explosion between King's Cross-and Russell Square in London.
 
My client was a successful and is an accomplished family man, who made enough fortune before his untimely death.
Since then I had made several Inquiries through your Embassy to locate any of my clients extended relative but this exercise has proved unsuccessful.
After several unsuccessful attempts, I decided to trace his relatives through the Internet, to locate any member of his family, not much progress was recorded.
My late client was an influential wealthy businessman, an oil magnet here in London and he left behind a deposit of fifteen Million United State Dollars only 15,000,000.00 (USD) in his domiciliary bank account in a commercial bank here in London.
After the death of my client his bankers contacted me, as his Attorney to provide his next of kin who should inherit his funds.
The board of directors of his bank adopted a resolution and I was mandated to provide his next of kin for the payment of this money within 28 Working days or forfeit the money to the bank as an abandoned property.
The bankers had planned to invoke the abandoned property decree of 1996 to confiscate the funds after the expiration of the period given to me.
 
Fortunately, I came across your name, to my greatest astonishment, I discovered that you bear the same surname with my late client and coincidentally, you are national of the same country.
Being convinced that you may be related with my late client or that you might provide clue to my search, I therefore, decided to contact with these facts before me, because of the similarities.
By virtue of my closeness to the deceased and his immediate family, I am very much aware of my client financial standing and the bank account he operates.
 
I have reasoned very professionally and I feel it will be legally proper to present you as the next of kin of my deceased client, so that you can be paid the funds left in his bank account.
I therefore seek your consent to present you as the Next of Kin to the Deceased since you are at an advantage,
bearing the same surname and equally from the same country that the proceeds of this Bank Account valued at $15,000,000.00 (USD) can be paid to you. We shall both share the funds. 40% for me and 55% to you, while 5% should be for Expenses or your Government may require as Tax.
 
I shall assemble all the necessary Legal Documents that will be used to back up our claim.
All I require is your honest cooperation to enable us seeing this deal through.
I guarantee that this will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of law.
Your swift response is anticipated.
Mr. LARRY WHITE
 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 1 12:12:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CD173BE7C; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257077528; bh=WKlHom1K5Irnds7YWDjpJKnmYorhoVeJsBjvTMiHEHU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=A4lzhDiImv7TpJ2dKKOrHtUop4NJck7EP1X1D91CHPy+gmUzZxr49V1p8CNAwTqEyN4HjYJc2N1YuzHY0Bjd9wkhSwYkIznF5ZnGqreDYHHwbXC+LcfytXeMVjv2BntLVwz1yhOdalaRqADCpe7Ss+iglCTyAZHY8uwA6V0CfEs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=WVG6BLMWSwENuWlugUhoD/zW5xGe2wml9PawejyDqxOsuw/0TUno1R+R6kQqGu03Mo0Y32Xu/jq5t52az/gHqsZusguCQAsrGmzCIh1FVaQTaLrXlFkxKnGkK7LhIjBHe1rF+9AI4GPB7iD75WyBNtrHKLwb1S+Mg6/9VksUkmg=; Message-ID: <870611.54542.qm@web24302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: QGMolgYVM1lUBi6IzzNU37ZW6KU2rsBsZ4lrsomTCuAEG8kIeX3CmYBHbGTxYQxj5dDn3FMpI6dBneINrHhf.aVqk9jLbLPpPENdpkmezvTZZbM4tF7Eb0OxC7b5MYQ15gt_ehYUr9AT4OU1IUFSYHU0pEQ_XWMeQys7kB6nlcV1Jq24KklHFTpVdVvjGD9o0AvBc6iOCaafTE9drIq_HKEmeRnoL5oHdutU1qXCqwL5d7PwoLGmIueNa_8SiyVreKWOduolKDDHhECat.lJ52_2XxpuJarWdxUZet_R8w6.p35w04M- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 04:12:08 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: introduction To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4AEB63B1.1060501@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <985RpC.A.9LD.asX7KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Hi Nadia,=0Aid say try Mobius first by itself,ive been doing my late loopin= g with it thoguh never tried it as a plugin within a prgram, to me it seems= a great choice if u want to do the "open canvas looping" for pre-arranged = looping Ableton might be just what you need=0Acheers and welcome to the mac= hine!=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Nadia Salom schrieb am Fr, 30.10.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Nadia Salom =0A> Betreff: Re: introduction=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=0A> Datum: Freitag, 30. Oktober 2009, 15:07=0A> Wow, thank you Mr. B= oysen so much for=0A> the extensive email. It is incredibly informative. I = have=0A> done 3-4 performances already and have only used Ableton=0A> witho= ut an extra loop plug in. I just routed the many tracks=0A> into one where = I placed some effects, and then toggled the=0A> different tracks on or off.= ..w/ the mapped out keyboard, or=0A> with the mouse... it was a bit cumbers= ome. I would set the=0A> length for my MIDI loops which I would record live= , but for=0A> the Audio tracks, I couldn't figure how to do that. So I=0A> = just let my own intuition decided when the loop was over. It=0A> seemed to = work very well. It had a bit of a ethereal and=0A> random effect.=0A> The m= ore I get aware of the different techniques the=0A> better. I am using Able= ton 6 so I might be forced try the=0A> Mobius plugin. I really want to star= t switching from=0A> different loops, to provide for some variation.=0A> @F= lorian and @Warren=0A> The link I sent was just audio. I also have a video = of one=0A> performance I did. Unfortunately the camera is shaking=0A> becau= se my daughter decided to get creative while=0A> filming...There is also an= other video...=0A> =0A> Here is the link: http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07/1= 8737=0A> =0A> I hope it works.=0A> =0A> Thanks for listening=0A> best wishe= s=0A> nadia=0A> =0A> Per Boysen schrieb:=0A> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:26= PM, Nadia Salom >=0A> w= rote:=0A> > =0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0I have recently discovered the=0A> potential= of live looping as a=0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0means of realtime composition.=0A> = And am interested learning about=0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0all this technique espec= ially=0A> regarding the use of Ableton, (which=0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0still give= s me a bit of a=0A> headache.)Since I always worked very=0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0= intuitively live looping seems=0A> to be the best way to still keep=0A> >= =A0 =A0=A0=A0accessing the full potential=0A> of the moment and still orche= strate=0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0many instruments.=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > Hi,= =0A> > =0A> > And welcome to this list!=A0 :-) =0A> > Since you have Ableto= n Live you can start with the=0A> Live plugin Looper (new with Live 8.0). H= ere comes the first=0A> choice in live looping technique: Do you want to se= t the=0A> tempo for Live by starting with creating a loop with your=0A> mic= /instrument input? Or do you want to first start Live and=0A> listen for th= e tempo to play in before starting to layer=0A> audio in the Looper plugin?= These are two very different=0A> approaches. Personally I only use the fir= st one - where you=0A> create the first loop and set the tempo for all elec= tronics=0A> based on your playing - and I can't really say much about=0A> t= he other method except that it works more like usual multi=0A> track record= ing. You have to make a setting in Live's Looper=0A> plugin in order to ext= ract the tempo and set it for the=0A> application. Play around with one loo= p and learn to kick the=0A> Looper plugin into Overdub Mode and layer audio= while you=0A> control its Feedback (how much of old layers that will be=0A= > fed back into the loop) by a pedal or fader. Learn tricks=0A> like overdu= bbing one rhythm with voice/instrument while=0A> pumping a counter rhythm w= ith the feedback pedal foot to=0A> change the background layers. This very = simply setup can be=0A> taken quite far in musical terms.=0A> > =0A> > Seco= nd step in looping technique could be to use two=0A> parallel loops. This c= an be done by opening a second Looper=0A> plugin on a second track. If you = did set the first one to=0A> pick up the tempo for Live you should set this= second looper=0A> to slave to this, Live's, tempo.=0A> > =0A> > As the thi= rd step I'd like to see the technique of=0A> layering a long recording over= the span of a couple of loop=0A> repeats. This action is called "Multiply"= and is not=0A> supported by the plugin Looper in Live. My favorite looper= =0A> plugin that supports Multiply is Mobius. Create your first=0A> loop, m= ake a couple of overdubs and then chose Multiply and=0A> play/sing a line t= hat evolves while your old loop is being=0A> repeated in the background. Th= e Multiply action keeps=0A> layering your input input and making the loop l= onger until=0A> you chose Multiply a second time.=0A> > =0A> > A fourth tec= hnique may be to switch loop. Live's=0A> Looper doesn't support that, but w= ith Mobius you give a=0A> command named "Next Loop" what happens then is th= at the=0A> recent loop stops playing and a new one is starting to be=0A> cr= eated by your audio input. But maybe you want to do this=0A> jumping betwee= n alternative loops on a parallel loop, so you=0A> can always hear what you= recorded in the first loop? A=0A> typical performance scenario could then = be:=0A> > =0A> > 1. Create a rhythm pattern as the first loop.=0A> > 2. Lay= er a variation or fill into this first loop.=0A> > 3. Select a new track an= d create a new loop in=0A> parallel with more tonal material. This could be= "intro" or=0A> "verse".=0A> > 4. While still working on track 2 go Next Lo= op and=0A> create "verse 2" (rhythm on track 1/Loop 1 will be heard=0A> con= stantly)=0A> > =0A> > I think this is a much anyone can say about "looping= =0A> technique". The rest is up to you and depends on what music=0A> you wa= nt to create. You have to think about what parts of=0A> the music that will= be repeated in shorter loops and crate=0A> those parts early before multip= lying. You may also want to=0A> make loops of different lengths to create r= hythmic variation=0A> as they glide in and out of beat matching, overdubbin= g one=0A> layer in reverse mode or substituting short slices of the=0A> loo= p with new input.=0A> > =0A> > Greetings from Sweden=0A> > =0A> > Per Boyse= n=0A> > www.boysen.se =0A> > www.perboysen.com =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> =0A> =0A> -- Nadia Salom=0A> = http://www.nirmala07.net=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 1 15:42:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 000E03BE80; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 15:42:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qyEFmrgknpwMaJkvYddrG97mEoTAlj+KBGvJJ4GWTBI=; b=eI9L+fDHSqhikik6V4i54ndum68TeHpup+YazhQ9Z9I5gFROuL2Uv0ROu+dmyWk7/V hyxlTRIPqj4SGBtJNFCwLbo7ysr+kmqP+Pu4kzdyg1j8B92LAK5pHp5dK4jpxqW6mo9W IyDkXa4oKxMCPcqFQ9gLoq5qXWP31wzxZrBBA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=okBII01uqjO4J7kgg6y4HuXeAZ9tswxSCmxSWUXzzGOVjiQ4cl/AzLszIkUiMqWPhi Eil3BGAtAwwMa+FPAO9LRppeOwrz2s6zDLJIROdE/ynLpFe2MoE69qYfQhWIwwv5F/2u 0dApFCvSUI8BPLw4+OfQtP3W+Es8DFkxhQo1Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:42:58 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8f7d073ce74bc282 Message-ID: <101191640911010742w294f1af3ydd60fa54989b4fbb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: CDDB Genres and other questions From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 15:42:58 +0000 (UTC) So I have a new CD that I've mentioned here before. I want to submit the Album info and track names to CDDB, I guess via iTunes. I'm sure some folks here have experience with this. 1) Is there an official list of genres and sub-genres published somewhere? 2) If you know my stuff, or If you have a chance to listen to the tunes on the purple playlist at http://warrensirota.com, what suggestions would you have for me? (I apologize for the inevitably self-promoting aspects of this question. I mean it as an honest inquiry into something that has bewildered me for quite a while and I need to answer). 3) How do you submit cover art to these databases? or is that just connected with being in the iTunes (or other) store? Thanks for any help you can offer, Warren From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 1 18:54:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 213F03BE81; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:53:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=oisaVKkPQNdtt30UQX9M5B+A6ebcOXiUArN1U2vVadM=; b=oEe+EI6hQCcx8Wm1EbvElwOgWLpiRl/dgeRue9I0FD4OM53eUK0/eIBHOAgBYxQVvc JwwoEpR9Lo3rdGplSE4IdqJfb5oA9gO0YYgoF4izyuzSzCileNDCqFRM6dkCMJotFqzN 6uyurZJPdO9YsNpMXeuT/0RPCHdlAZ7WDg494= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=dEICHB4Ao/HLXU7Z1YD+tMXQWeRyJ9Sb++jWD2ijjNzEzA1OT2f8KLPE5Khzobw7n2 eUPQYNk1FLjGljVRbEP7SjS4/dMVBq0CER7Sb9+/Io6CnaMKLvpxOdpwPNDCqIIh8aFv lmf20JDb9wjD5+XGY387hwdS1zyUl4wuAM340= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:53:43 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Advice for DL-4 home repair From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd21722be2edc047753c79e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:53:48 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd21722be2edc047753c79e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi all, As some of you witnessed, the "record" button of my DL-4 fell apart during my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the pedal. I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be an easy fix. The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it's still stuck to something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid 4 black screws and one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts around the inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be held in by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like modeling type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out? This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more out of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job. -- Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt --000e0cd21722be2edc047753c79e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all,

As some of you witnessed, the "record" button of = my DL-4 fell apart during my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the= pedal.

I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be= an easy fix. The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it= 9;s still stuck to something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I'= ve undid 4 black screws and one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the= black bolts around the inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip b= oard seems to be held in by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dial= s for things like modeling type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out?=

This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or m= ore out of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job.

--
Matt Davignon
www.r= ibosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/= user/ribosomematt
--000e0cd21722be2edc047753c79e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 1 18:59:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0CF63BE81; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257101967; bh=Y3dxaSwcfZT5oWa/SAxSf2LL4kHFIVlb1+60RCE92HQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Y0gZlinEdBHB66OrrOp8JVP1jMNxOhxBmJrMZxPsZyQKVCz0wqNZMxTzWj6pTylQojnk6keL+wxlIQVxYuvwYkYRUDnVBmQhrpVU+B2deILKvoSmf9aNKuGJqMG7iSIJv1FOjT6fytQkE0UpjwbBdYn3MrJB8fxmaQA4e+5rAOY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EYsrvBaU5lvpR2h6V02eUvAYhTPdPtZQm+2sV1bNhTGnoiWhqLxNKtY59Cp28D0piMS3hXP2NaIhpvINdyuA773RIO1gTo/EMOjwRHPPhwbM02IFWQo71jb0Mnxf9oKBpcDfvKo1UPvJdtDK+6sAEdg7DAx1ZWqZ3rhvBGUEKOI=; Message-ID: <503564.10719.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: scK96PwVM1mKuBy7SDIawy350VdEalHuYwUUTlC6D7.zGbP.Aa1d.9FbO4VbucSC3fRMYZciumNyUG8rIFJBE.Vjs3gTkJgOk_MK7dAGUoXms_GR8REuT6b9IbcDllMh0ZQm9c03wCl0GFZIDhiXb0lEjMcfeZXUIKzXsni5Vy7rFWHOrUFVODaaE6YENsr59zV_uCBXP6tXELJBzqwi3WnjqQwaaWwPMdzOrn5tSoeMWR0OuQaCTNr5o.a8vjNUqY1.42iDwo1_Crcvzz3tjHu0PwLdYP4qNFuJoSkebOO23DEQmdBdZgXf3w-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:59:27 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: Advice for DL-4 home repair To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <_ZP4RB.A.5zE.Qqd7KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:59:28 +0000 (UTC) yeap,welcome to china town!=0A=0A> This is frustrating, because if the chip= board was 1/4"=0A> higher or more out of the way, this would be a 20 minute= =0A> repair job. =0A> =0A> -- =0A> Matt Davignon=0A> www.ribosomemusic.com= =0A> =0A> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 1 18:59:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC0983BE7F; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_YA3uMpfc3WHzxuI9lgEnfQ)" Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: Advice for DL-4 home repair Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:59:57 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:59:59 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_YA3uMpfc3WHzxuI9lgEnfQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Yes there's a good chance it's the potentiometers connected to the dials. There's also an off chance that there is a screw someplace that you haven't seen yet. I've fixed many electronic devices and the screws will fool ya. toby ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:53 AM Subject: Advice for DL-4 home repair Hi all, As some of you witnessed, the "record" button of my DL-4 fell apart during my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the pedal. I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be an easy fix. The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it's still stuck to something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid 4 black screws and one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts around the inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be held in by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like modeling type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out? This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more out of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job. -- Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt --Boundary_(ID_YA3uMpfc3WHzxuI9lgEnfQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Yes there's a good chance it's the potentiometers connected to the dials. 
There's also an off chance that there is a screw someplace that you haven't seen yet.  I've fixed many electronic devices and the screws will fool ya.
 
toby
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: Advice for DL-4 home repair

Hi all,

As some of you witnessed, the "record" button of my DL-4 fell apart during my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the pedal.

I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be an easy fix. The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it's still stuck to something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid 4 black screws and one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts around the inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be held in by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like modeling type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out?

This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more out of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job.

--
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
--Boundary_(ID_YA3uMpfc3WHzxuI9lgEnfQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 1 19:17:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB5413BE7E; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=P24FykdO0vTI8QLT9hlEYHrUcqlMAQhVQzth8HtJhCY=; b=L2Lgm1+JuFab+DPlEVJ3QBvfXGWH0xg7Jko9gnW5+AhyZNxNo84m8NdbC4tPgweHZx jJNT3/qfegEWAgcdrIacmOMagpKsvlWAuUl8ZMC9yrmO+QA7YUYqm+YvLMYbSJfcWtcK SqvO63kJnizmbyxoWMWKObInuZSuaTqjh+Wug= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=wFPVLnqOBZABJnOMbcTJ0sTxrPtPX8tbNF9cAcyDvZoVpPzabmM7wcc5+oWKfbIUL0 6d667GT5g1g2IfWegFlNBy0LCMcqb+RwHeZEqBWk7xEcROVjnSz+9fGalTwO/2JKgTS2 wGPfuZzy9kg73ENrDYdy11dlqG8xWOclLlLKA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <101191640911010742w294f1af3ydd60fa54989b4fbb@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640911010742w294f1af3ydd60fa54989b4fbb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 14:17:39 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 280349e7df18ed46 Message-ID: <101191640911011117v1c0d3ebbj5e778064ae3f134c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: CDDB Genres and other questions From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Rainer informs me (and someone else has before, I just forgot) that that jukebox app won't work outside the US! So here are a couple of mp3 links from the CD: http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/KickinBack.mp3 http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/afrique2.mp3 http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/ghosttown.mp3 http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/ramble.mp3 thx, Warren On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > So I have a new CD that I've mentioned here before. > > I want to submit the Album info and track names to CDDB, I guess via > iTunes. I'm sure some folks here have experience with this. > > 1) Is there an official list of genres and sub-genres published somewhere? > 2) If you know my stuff, or If you have a chance to listen to the > tunes on the purple playlist at http://warrensirota.com, what > suggestions would you have for me? (I apologize for the inevitably > self-promoting aspects of this question. I mean it as an honest > inquiry into something that has bewildered me for quite a while and I > need to answer). > 3) How do you submit cover art to these databases? or is that just > connected with being in the iTunes (or other) store? > > Thanks for any help you can offer, > Warren > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Nov 1 23:56:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4E2F3BE7F; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 23:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <101191640911010742w294f1af3ydd60fa54989b4fbb@mail.gmail.com> <101191640911011117v1c0d3ebbj5e778064ae3f134c@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: mr sirota"s "loops, live and otw" Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:56:32 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.240.109.212 In-Reply-To: <101191640911011117v1c0d3ebbj5e778064ae3f134c@mail.gmail.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CC29661299175F_1D9C_7E01_webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 28878-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CC2966128F91DF-1D9C-3C11@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 23:56:46 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CC29661299175F_1D9C_7E01_webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" gave warren's "LOOPS, LIVE AND OTW" another spin today.....what a delight= , the playing is tight, wonderful timbre, xcellent recording chops.....gre= at job warren!!!!!.....loved "a day at the circus", sweet.....i will give= this cd many more listens.....:)m =20 =20 =20 ----------MB_8CC29661299175F_1D9C_7E01_webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
gave wa= rren's "LOOPS, LIVE AND OTW" another spin today.....what a delight, the pl= aying is tight, wonderful timbre, xcellent recording chops.....great job= warren!!!!!.....loved "a day at the circus", sweet.....i will give this= cd many more listens.....:)m
----------MB_8CC29661299175F_1D9C_7E01_webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 00:25:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3211E3BE78; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DzrETN9wC6x2fktWotTBwKhMxo9Ddsp5m/9kg90PHT0=; b=J5huccXMmMaRfI3T/SLlT4EMyoiZFXa1hqDfkmGnkRiOSlxpzaIIvjQaeMjrB+Tg0V wF7dCdXEXdHxCABT6YRWOBX3b12g59K1czZc50OP1P0NLt00dAtpEVDhOve8gi8TY8nq 4QVu//CkZWsuUQ10WEqcZ5E8N1CeLMJikdLyc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bOygl0cj2kc+5VLi7clpI3SnCpSwZGmlxUsrGIShF5y0V+7V4DiOFA0XnZyvH33KuZ L333QfLyCzBRK8meRgVY58M6mJcElcJBltgy/+3MDRXZhdHXYt6ZZqiL2mgZjJ+NHuqm T/bxQ+/DLtDFFwEnTJCzpiahCYQP4fdDejKjM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 16:25:42 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Advice for DL-4 home repair From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd217220016940477586bc1 Resent-Message-ID: <_sGrl.A.GuH.Ici7KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:25:44 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd217220016940477586bc1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I almost missed the hex screw at first, since it doesn't really look like a screw. All I can see on my side of the chip board now is the ROM chip, a potentiometer for the "mode" dial, two wires to the battery compartment, and a bunch of solder spots. Something other than those elements is locking the board down, or it would be a little more flexible. It may be the dials...so, how do I get them off? Do I just force 'em with a pair of pliers? -- Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Toby G wrote: > Yes there's a good chance it's the potentiometers connected to the > dials. > There's also an off chance that there is a screw someplace that you haven't > seen yet. I've fixed many electronic devices and the screws will fool ya. > > toby > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Matt Davignon > *To:* Loopers Delight > *Sent:* Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:53 AM > *Subject:* Advice for DL-4 home repair > > Hi all, > > As some of you witnessed, the "record" button of my DL-4 fell apart during > my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the pedal. > > I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be an easy fix. > The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it's still stuck to > something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid 4 black screws and > one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts around the > inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be held in > by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like modeling > type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out? > > This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more out > of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job. > > -- > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > --000e0cd217220016940477586bc1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I almost missed the hex screw at first, since it doesn't really look li= ke a screw. All I can see on my side of the chip board now is the ROM chip,= a potentiometer for the "mode" dial, two wires to the battery co= mpartment, and a bunch of solder spots. Something other than those elements= is locking the board down, or it would be a little more flexible.

It may be the dials...so, how do I get them off? Do I just force 'e= m with a pair of pliers?

--
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Toby G <carpet8@mac.com>= ; wrote:
Yes there's a good chance it's= the potentiometers=20 connected to the dials.=A0
There's also an off chance that th= ere is a screw=20 someplace that you haven't seen yet.=A0 I've fixed many electronic = devices=20 and the screws will fool ya.
=A0
toby
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Matt=20 Davignon
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 10= :53=20 AM
Subject: Advice for DL-4 home=20 repair

Hi all,

As some of you witnessed, the "record= " button=20 of my DL-4 fell apart during my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fi= x the=20 pedal.

I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should b= e an=20 easy fix. The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it'= s still=20 stuck to something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid= 4 black=20 screws and one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts ar= ound=20 the inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be h= eld=20 in by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like=20 modeling type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out?

This is= =20 frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more out of= the way,=20 this would be a 20 minute repair job.

--
Matt= =20 Davignon
ww= w.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt



--000e0cd217220016940477586bc1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 00:33:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AE803BE80; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zRV0wiRw3oKGAKQTx2OLAvxKYqoVegwX6e2edeK3K/k=; b=QZJdsUSPIuDS+4o95RROuJ5/VwwSXWWeU2WyTVUUIHJ1tebgfX3uP0oZrUgsl5AxVJ PZsvQAiSznfIBVO0dL1Apk0NLAwP6uZfvVmc0+xb0fqo5I4dncNFNVh03gGcBkFVkIZu 3D+lBxfKye+bNndF1aKTB0deFV5LcKxAnFgqA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ILm2w1eDaZyxLEWkzPknSghfCv6i/F64aMr6H7r8TL2kWXkspKp3WcFzr6mR7VLyRh 5YJuho2bsn9EdrpIa7HFMce1NlQrUgU6o0BbdqR5ctzQr0VCRI5B3m5h9keolw7V5KrQ YkYYpGWIL8LG9M80/Zv51wUQhciomPqT2TkHg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <8CC2966128F91DF-1D9C-3C11@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> References: <101191640911010742w294f1af3ydd60fa54989b4fbb@mail.gmail.com> <101191640911011117v1c0d3ebbj5e778064ae3f134c@mail.gmail.com> <8CC2966128F91DF-1D9C-3C11@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:33:28 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3e1780cb933b4a6f Message-ID: <101191640911011633q70eb8283wf8d17b1e235c7bec@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: mr sirota"s "loops, live and otw" From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Aw shucks, Mike - I really appreciate you taking the time to say that, and I hope you really enjoy it. Thanks. On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 6:56 PM, wrote: > gave warren's "LOOPS, LIVE AND OTW" another spin today.....what a delight, > the playing is tight, wonderful timbre, xcellent recording chops.....great > job warren!!!!!.....loved "a day at the circus", sweet.....i will give this > cd many more listens.....:)m - so, if you had to choose a category for this, what would you say? I found a list of official id3v1 genres for mp3 files, but was unable to find a list of official gracenote genres and sub-genres (am not now convinced there is such a thing). Here's what I found for the id3v1, below. so what's my cd: 47? 23? 109? 119? 0.Blues 1.Classic Rock 2.Country 3.Dance 4.Disco 5.Funk 6.Grunge 7.Hip-Hop 8.Jazz 9.Metal 10.New Age 11.Oldies 12.Other 13.Pop 14.R&B 15.Rap 16.Reggae 17.Rock 18.Techno 19.Industrial 20.Alternative 21.Ska 22.Death Metal 23.Pranks 24.Soundtrack 25.Euro-Techno 26.Ambient 27.Trip-Hop 28.Vocal 29.Jazz+Funk 30.Fusion 31.Trance 32.Classical 33.Instrumental 34.Acid 35.House 36.Game 37.Sound Clip 38.Gospel 39.Noise 40.AlternRock 41.Bass 42.Soul 43.Punk 44.Space 45.Meditative 46.Instrumental Pop 47.Instrumental Rock 48.Ethnic 49.Gothic 50.Darkwave 51.Techno-Industrial 52.Electronic 53.Pop-Folk 54.Eurodance 55.Dream 56.Southern Rock 57.Comedy 58.Cult 59.Gangsta 60.Top 40 61.Christian Rap 62.Pop/Funk 63.Jungle 64.Native American 65.Cabaret 66.New Wave 67.Psychadelic 68.Rave 69.Showtunes 70.Trailer 71.Lo-Fi 72.Tribal 73.Acid Punk 74.Acid Jazz 75.Polka 76.Retro 77.Musical 78.Rock & Roll 79.Hard Rock The following genres are Winamp extensions 80.Folk 81.Folk-Rock 82.National Folk 83.Swing 84.Fast Fusion 85.Bebob 86.Latin 87.Revival 88.Celtic 89.Bluegrass 90.Avantgarde 91.Gothic Rock 92.Progressive Rock 93.Psychedelic Rock 94.Symphonic Rock 95.Slow Rock 96.Big Band 97.Chorus 98.Easy Listening 99.Acoustic 100.Humour 101.Speech 102.Chanson 103.Opera 104.Chamber Music 105.Sonata 106.Symphony 107.Booty Bass 108.Primus 109.Porn Groove 110.Satire 111.Slow Jam 112.Club 113.Tango 114.Samba 115.Folklore 116.Ballad 117.Power Ballad 118.Rhythmic Soul 119.Freestyle 120.Duet 121.Punk Rock 122.Drum Solo 123.A capella 124.Euro-House 125.Dance Hall From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 02:18:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9B7E3BE7F; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 02:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:18:49 UTC Message-ID: <13212.65.48.1257127931.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: References: <003d01ca56d5$c024f230$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 22:12:11 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: POSTING Y2K9 COMMENTS AND/OR REVIEWS (Was Re: Y2K9 sampler video) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 02:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Hey All, I got back home(Barbados) Tuesday morning at 1:30am after leaving Toledo, Ohio at 4:00am Monday. At least half of that time was spent in the airports in Chicago and Miami. I know this is probably the norm for most of you, but it was pure torture for me. I hate airports and struggled to stay awake. Would I do this again? Oh Yeah!! Looking forward to it already. I had a great time at the show, and hanging out and jamming at Rick's. I'm from a fairly small island, and it's quite challenging finding other artists that are interested in trying new things, far less a place where you can actually watch such shows. I'd just like to thank Rick and Chris for having me in their home, and to Bill for bailing me out of my laptop disaster, and restringing Rick's bass. Thanks to all that played at this fest, it was truly inspiring to be a part of this looping communion. Hope to see you again on the next loop. Andre www.andredonawa.com On Tue, October 27, 2009 11:03 am, tEd ® KiLLiAn wrote: > Michael, > > Speaking for myself (and perhaps a few others), some of us are just > tired old farts who have been going to the festival every year since > it's inception and have filled the Loopers' Delight archive every year > with kudus, reviews and discussions of it to the point that perhaps > we've a sense that people are tired of hearing from us about it. > > Or maybe we're just tired . . . I know I am . . . and would like to > hear someone else talk about it. > > As always . . . Rick & Co. did a fabulous job putting it on, and an > outstanding job of gathering talent from around the world . . . all of > which at a general financial loss personally (not to mention > dedication of time, loss of sleep and frequent peace of mind). > > Every performer in attendance had his or her moments of brilliance. > > A few had their struggles with tech "gremlins" and the "brilliant > part" was in how they dealt with it. > > But **particular** standouts (for me) were Lilli Lewis, Jim Thomas, > Bill Walker, (yourself) Michael Peters, DCO, Sjaak Overgaauw, Kevin > Kalimbaman Spears and Andre Donawa, Daryl Shawn and Jim Goodin, > bassista Ariane Cap, and the vocal duo of Laurel Murphy and Ryan Slemko. > > In addition, Daniel Thomas (& son) had his best set ever, as did > Warren Sirota, Matt Davignon and our own Stanosaur (more felt than > heard). > > Many first-timers at the fest also put in memorable sets, including > Nat Grant, Electro Funkadelica, and Organamatonic. > > I was also absolutely knocked-out by Julia > Entertainmentforthebraindead Kotowski from Cologne. > > It's too hard to write and post this stuff though, because as soon as > you do, you think of someone else you missed and you're afraid of > possible hurt feelings. > > I'll push the button and send this anyway and hope that anyone I > missed forgives me . . . or can simply dismiss me as an old fart. > > Best regards to all, > > Ted Killian > > On Oct 27, 2009, at 12:18 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > >> p.s. I'm surprised that there are hardly any postings about this >> festival on >> the LD list. It was one of the most exciting and memorable musical >> events I >> can remember. Meeting old friends (some of them for the first time) >> and new >> friends, talking with many interesting people, lots and lots of >> incredible >> music and inspiration. Thanks so much to Rick and of course also to >> Chris, >> Bill, and Nancy for having us. > > Andre Donawa Barbados Guitar School Woodside Gardens Bay St. St. Michael Barbados 11157 Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) 246 436 8294 (School) http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 02:55:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A7453BE7E; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 02:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=q41O7OuslifYvgcE1M9cKaS3kB+GBhtdxlht3WeX/x0=; b=jhoT27RhqXxEuNwe06AvWD8zqmEKmssg3FjrwlIFO5zJOMVxgpnldCTls0nRLrRVrT WYjRTcpk9NtCt8PaITi9JAYAIQ7fNDmKGQVq/eCCjY4xzXgvjko6vxnmgoHwtHaWzcO4 ZdUn7wm316WpoI8GqObkifJGLhdOyPi96/tDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TAJD1IH/U/8zLFvy0n7jSzCg/RnaETRV+Cdc3/FH6zzTKFmqy50riPuySlNxyQ3DP1 3WU03HC7LAp8bPbEQC6mZWOr47P//a3dbl9k5OPd8yQV5Ph9pWZvCCGE0FdSU+Cim+ch 4E+vpBt2DwJ5AWNSx8n+KUPZnf5+SrxqhmV4M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640911011633q70eb8283wf8d17b1e235c7bec@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640911010742w294f1af3ydd60fa54989b4fbb@mail.gmail.com> <101191640911011117v1c0d3ebbj5e778064ae3f134c@mail.gmail.com> <8CC2966128F91DF-1D9C-3C11@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> <101191640911011633q70eb8283wf8d17b1e235c7bec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:55:08 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0911011855y7985e749ycb4f14bcfcba74f4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: mr sirota"s "loops, live and otw" From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 02:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Part of me says go with 22 and 59. You got the look, so mess with people. : ) On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Warren Sirota wrote= : > Aw shucks, Mike - I really appreciate you taking the time to > say that, and I hope you really enjoy it. Thanks. > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 6:56 PM, =A0 wrote: >> gave warren's "LOOPS, LIVE AND OTW" another spin today.....what a deligh= t, >> the playing is tight, wonderful timbre, xcellent recording chops.....gre= at >> job warren!!!!!.....loved "a day at the circus", sweet.....i will give t= his >> cd many more listens.....:)m > > =A0- so, if you had to choose a category for this, what would you say? > > I found a list of official id3v1 genres for mp3 files, but was unable > to find a list of official gracenote genres and sub-genres (am not now > convinced there is such a thing). Here's what I found for the id3v1, > below. > > so what's my cd: 47? 23? 109? 119? > > 0.Blues > =A0 =A0 =A01.Classic Rock > =A0 =A0 =A02.Country > =A0 =A0 =A03.Dance > =A0 =A0 =A04.Disco > =A0 =A0 =A05.Funk > =A0 =A0 =A06.Grunge > =A0 =A0 =A07.Hip-Hop > =A0 =A0 =A08.Jazz > =A0 =A0 =A09.Metal > =A0 =A0 10.New Age > =A0 =A0 11.Oldies > =A0 =A0 12.Other > =A0 =A0 13.Pop > =A0 =A0 14.R&B > =A0 =A0 15.Rap > =A0 =A0 16.Reggae > =A0 =A0 17.Rock > =A0 =A0 18.Techno > =A0 =A0 19.Industrial > =A0 =A0 20.Alternative > =A0 =A0 21.Ska > =A0 =A0 22.Death Metal > =A0 =A0 23.Pranks > =A0 =A0 24.Soundtrack > =A0 =A0 25.Euro-Techno > =A0 =A0 26.Ambient > =A0 =A0 27.Trip-Hop > =A0 =A0 28.Vocal > =A0 =A0 29.Jazz+Funk > =A0 =A0 30.Fusion > =A0 =A0 31.Trance > =A0 =A0 32.Classical > =A0 =A0 33.Instrumental > =A0 =A0 34.Acid > =A0 =A0 35.House > =A0 =A0 36.Game > =A0 =A0 37.Sound Clip > =A0 =A0 38.Gospel > =A0 =A0 39.Noise > =A0 =A0 40.AlternRock > =A0 =A0 41.Bass > =A0 =A0 42.Soul > =A0 =A0 43.Punk > =A0 =A0 44.Space > =A0 =A0 45.Meditative > =A0 =A0 46.Instrumental Pop > =A0 =A0 47.Instrumental Rock > =A0 =A0 48.Ethnic > =A0 =A0 49.Gothic > =A0 =A0 50.Darkwave > =A0 =A0 51.Techno-Industrial > =A0 =A0 52.Electronic > =A0 =A0 53.Pop-Folk > =A0 =A0 54.Eurodance > =A0 =A0 55.Dream > =A0 =A0 56.Southern Rock > =A0 =A0 57.Comedy > =A0 =A0 58.Cult > =A0 =A0 59.Gangsta > =A0 =A0 60.Top 40 > =A0 =A0 61.Christian Rap > =A0 =A0 62.Pop/Funk > =A0 =A0 63.Jungle > =A0 =A0 64.Native American > =A0 =A0 65.Cabaret > =A0 =A0 66.New Wave > =A0 =A0 67.Psychadelic > =A0 =A0 68.Rave > =A0 =A0 69.Showtunes > =A0 =A0 70.Trailer > =A0 =A0 71.Lo-Fi > =A0 =A0 72.Tribal > =A0 =A0 73.Acid Punk > =A0 =A0 74.Acid Jazz > =A0 =A0 75.Polka > =A0 =A0 76.Retro > =A0 =A0 77.Musical > =A0 =A0 78.Rock & Roll > =A0 =A0 79.Hard Rock > > =A0 The following genres are Winamp extensions > > =A0 =A0 80.Folk > =A0 =A0 81.Folk-Rock > =A0 =A0 82.National Folk > =A0 =A0 83.Swing > =A0 =A0 84.Fast Fusion > =A0 =A0 85.Bebob > =A0 =A0 86.Latin > =A0 =A0 87.Revival > =A0 =A0 88.Celtic > =A0 =A0 89.Bluegrass > =A0 =A0 90.Avantgarde > =A0 =A0 91.Gothic Rock > =A0 =A0 92.Progressive Rock > =A0 =A0 93.Psychedelic Rock > =A0 =A0 94.Symphonic Rock > =A0 =A0 95.Slow Rock > =A0 =A0 96.Big Band > =A0 =A0 97.Chorus > =A0 =A0 98.Easy Listening > =A0 =A0 99.Acoustic > =A0 =A0100.Humour > =A0 =A0101.Speech > =A0 =A0102.Chanson > =A0 =A0103.Opera > =A0 =A0104.Chamber Music > =A0 =A0105.Sonata > =A0 =A0106.Symphony > =A0 =A0107.Booty Bass > =A0 =A0108.Primus > =A0 =A0109.Porn Groove > =A0 =A0110.Satire > =A0 =A0111.Slow Jam > =A0 =A0112.Club > =A0 =A0113.Tango > =A0 =A0114.Samba > =A0 =A0115.Folklore > =A0 =A0116.Ballad > =A0 =A0117.Power Ballad > =A0 =A0118.Rhythmic Soul > =A0 =A0119.Freestyle > =A0 =A0120.Duet > =A0 =A0121.Punk Rock > =A0 =A0122.Drum Solo > =A0 =A0123.A capella > =A0 =A0124.Euro-House > =A0 =A0125.Dance Hall > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 06:20:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26AB83BE7F; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 06:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Mark Hamburg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: MIDI Looping Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 22:20:38 -0800 Message-Id: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 06:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Are there any MIDI loopers that recognize when you've played the same sequence of notes (modulo minor timing and velocity variations) more than once and automatically turn it into a loop? Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 08:01:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE0163BE82; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9AUvd1vkK7MB939dn4W9wLxVv0LiCXqoiyq7jW6Z9d8=; b=s9wKmeHLzhJw97EjqhQ1yQ1d5Yv6bsS2hNivpYl6rbJx+dc6QpneEPsS3RFexpxML/ 4YRPDwvustMzfFbb7dOVPuHKxBgTDLXBQpHvgjLHsCPBMHI6cbBBUncZ0sDi5PacMxUa ycHMSDvN6E+JKd+oN1A20sCXGqh0E3q3O+clw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nws6Plvl/aLjHUt57dvyJt5JfXqeS1Bhoe9IToCiEIqIFszOE79q0oYha5n6qmO5NN tAkl0MVqZ/RVj+e3L22iNkT1sUf/A3efxSlifMQKkR3yPwHS2SQbdhkFs2WrtrMUVfkn y9h7ojqZB4y1eFFwqL5QAMdW/azCqeT0FQnSE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <453AED8BB65D487CA8DC17DE5DECAC8B@williamsteed> References: <453AED8BB65D487CA8DC17DE5DECAC8B@williamsteed> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 00:01:14 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Advice for DL-4 home repair From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd290b21f3d9304775ec89a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:01:16 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd290b21f3d9304775ec89a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bill Walker had the answer. He was like: > Yep , The black dial knobs themselves have to come off the front panel, > use a pair of pliers to gently yet firmly grab them and pull up. > > Bill > Thanks Bill! > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Matt Davignon [mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:54 AM > *To:* Loopers Delight > > *Subject:* Advice for DL-4 home repair > > > > Hi all, > > As some of you witnessed, the "record" button of my DL-4 fell apart during > my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the pedal. > > I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be an easy fix. > The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it's still stuck to > something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid 4 black screws and > one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts around the > inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be held in > by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like modeling > type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out? > > This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more out > of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job. > > -- > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > -- Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt --000e0cd290b21f3d9304775ec89a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill Walker had the answer. He was like:

Yep , The blac= k dial knobs themselves have to come off the front panel, =A0use a pair of pliers to gently yet firmly g= rab them and pull up.

=A0Bill=

Thanks Bill!

= =A0

From: Matt Davignon [mailto:mattdav= ignon@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 01,= 2009 10:54 AM
To: Loopers Delight


Subject: Advice for DL-4 h= ome repair

=A0

Hi all,


As some of you witnessed, the "record" button of my DL-4 fell apa= rt during my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the pedal.

I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be an easy fix. Th= e trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it's still stuck to something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid 4 black sc= rews and one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts around the inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be held in= by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like modeling t= ype, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out?

This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more = out of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job.

--
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusi= c.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt




--
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/riboso= mematt
--000e0cd290b21f3d9304775ec89a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 08:57:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B21B3BE82; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:57:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AEE9F1B.6040006@het.it> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:58:03 +0100 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: introduction References: <4AEB21E3.7060907@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4AEB21E3.7060907@gmx.de> Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------090205050301060900060300" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:57:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090205050301060900060300 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Nadia Welcome to the looper dome!
Max Liver!

Nadia Salom ha scritto:
hello, I just joined this list and would like to introduce myself. I am an art student in Braunschweig Germany. My focus is mainly on composition and performance with the use of the voice. I am studying with Prof. Ulrich Eller in the Sound Art Class here.

I have recently discovered the potential of live looping as a means of realtime composition. And am interested learning about all this technique especially regarding the use of Ableton, (which still gives me a bit of a headache.)Since I always worked very intuitively live looping seems to be the best way to still keep accessing the full potential of the moment and still orchestrate many instruments.

my setup: mobile PA- Set (on rolls) w/ microphone, MacBookPro, Ableton, midi keyboard, and my voice... I can just about it carry it all by self... just dont have a car yet.

Thank you to those who set up the listserver and the very imformative website.

If anyone is interested in listening to some of my work, it is located on ubetoo. Here is one version of a song that seems to change everytime I play it.

http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07/21701

best wishes,

Nadia Salom
nirmala07




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luq8b6zZL//pf/v6v//83//+//8A8U/gQIIFDR5EmFDhQoYJAwIAOw== --------------090205050301060900060300-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 09:16:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34CC93BE79; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:16:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AEEA372.6030607@mnet-online.de> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:16:34 +0100 From: Florian Anwander User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI Looping References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at gw2.consol.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:16:07 +0000 (UTC) Hi Mark > Are there any MIDI loopers that recognize when you've played the same > sequence of notes (modulo minor timing and velocity variations) more > than once and automatically turn it into a loop? Unfortunately: no. I am looking for some but the only thing which works on the MIDI-level similar like a looper is Ableton Live. Any kind of loop-autorecognition is not available. But that would be quite difficult to achieve. Example: you plan a repeating phrase of two bars, which starts with two identical notes -> The looper would think of the first two as loop. This (extreme) example can be extended to any other dimension. The result will be that you will be forced again to predefine a looplength. Florian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 09:33:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4631E3BE80; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:33:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rMrPhbI+dwLr4X6IXiGuq246knRZn4lSzbqljNLkpGc=; b=SRZ4WfrQRCu04twBuEo8zJXOxaWYypokap3tRkAxW7rachlDTC7o5cXjMHWe0JcsK9 lwhqmDUEpUb57DiRordqT1KGfHEHklyi+wOdIisMnWmTiSkn2+CPGgqPVSRoFUcq/r83 NLe5+RHAhcd74dHQxEqrthPCBuZ9WxRpsKc10= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RD2wm9h2cfgNrHk1PFpOKD+/MDL0SicQfj0SWhhu0vJXQyLmdx+PQxlF/119EHtjMv W2gmKDez4GSZlrL80jmEYwgypCGqr0ZDs9bWWwtfi6FJqoJHh/6drabqszhLwJWCHyQ+ 5v/0zEhYHOlC0Y45GqX7usBrop0QIe3/l4P3Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4AEEA372.6030607@mnet-online.de> References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> <4AEEA372.6030607@mnet-online.de> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:33:14 +0300 Message-ID: <20aeede50911020133s2400c7adj297405a0a8896366@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI Looping From: Louigi Verona To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f6daf82de7f6047760116d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:33:17 +0000 (UTC) --001485f6daf82de7f6047760116d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not necessarily. The thing that typically comes to mind is that if three first notes match in the next bar - it is a loop. Smth like that. But you will have to define a bar anyway. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Florian Anwander wrote: > Hi Mark > > > Are there any MIDI loopers that recognize when you've played the same >> sequence of notes (modulo minor timing and velocity variations) more than >> once and automatically turn it into a loop? >> > Unfortunately: no. > I am looking for some but the only thing which works on the MIDI-level > similar like a looper is Ableton Live. > > Any kind of loop-autorecognition is not available. But that would be quite > difficult to achieve. Example: you plan a repeating phrase of two bars, > which starts with two identical notes -> The looper would think of the first > two as loop. This (extreme) example can be extended to any other dimension. > The result will be that you will be forced again to predefine a looplength. > > Florian > > --001485f6daf82de7f6047760116d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not necessarily. The thing that typically comes to mind is that if three fi= rst notes match in the next bar - it is a loop. Smth like that. But you wil= l have to define a bar anyway.

On Mon, No= v 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Florian Anwander <fanwander@mnet-online.de> wrot= e:
Hi Mark


Are there any MIDI loopers that recognize when you've played the same s= equence of notes (modulo minor timing and velocity variations) more than on= ce and automatically turn it into a loop?
Unfortunately: no.
I am looking for some but the only thing which works on the MIDI-level simi= lar like a looper is Ableton Live.

Any kind of loop-autorecognition is not available. But that would be quite = difficult to achieve. Example: you plan a repeating phrase of two bars, whi= ch starts with two identical notes -> The looper would think of the firs= t two as loop. This (extreme) example can be extended to any other dimensio= n. The result will be that you will be forced again to predefine a loopleng= th.

Florian


--001485f6daf82de7f6047760116d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 10:37:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAD3D3BE7C; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9tJZ4BX0RiMXngXThwOnvq26JYqHPKdwYyl2kyTHXKQ=; b=HCiLc9nkmvSHoHNnfEHlce9dFXzrw20++rnQM2gxxJTgr5GNVMotBzwNZVnv3QjgUu cONOwBx3EMzF+Td9bQbQX08cTGyHNg8qV0EIE5rXBGYywtI3A+1TMz+qs8iGmh429QQd i8aVnP9OBXkakRhVm8qxPEPZdTcrQeYSmWsS4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VeiRwiWI355CL/ICSB8jwcC2foFHEPNVG2ldp5G8RKdQWvUhKA+7dDGi4BZezsmTY/ h6eRaxJlNigzlAGK8T5o/QFsbm7dky4m/HFLhbhVn6Mh3ux6ALwCoOKCOnl/z1/o7PPY LYKWnmJb/VHkHtO2D6R09YXMlp7ajnT1tVrNQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:37:38 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI Looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd7226e65c3b7047760f7f7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:37:38 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd7226e65c3b7047760f7f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I don't think so. But this is typically something I imagine can be built in MAX. Another suggestion to reach a similar effect in MIDI looping is to define certain MIDI note numbers to trig certain functions. Then you simply play those notes to give looping commands like "record", "stop recording", "new track" etc. I only know about two applications that would let incoming MIDI note define actions for MIDI looping: Logic and Ableton Live. Both applications offer extensive MIDI data filtering and MIDI data transformation. Logic will be using its global cycle mode for looping, which means all loops has to be of the same length. Ableton Live offers individual lengths for all loops, if you use the Mix View. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > Are there any MIDI loopers that recognize when you've played the same > sequence of notes (modulo minor timing and velocity variations) more than > once and automatically turn it into a loop? > --000e0cd7226e65c3b7047760f7f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't think so. But this is typically something I imagine can be buil= t in MAX.

Another suggestion to reach a similar effect in MIDI loopi= ng is to define certain MIDI note numbers to trig certain functions. Then y= ou simply play those notes to give looping commands like "record"= , "stop recording", "new track" etc.

I only know about two applications that would let incoming MIDI note de= fine actions for MIDI looping: Logic and Ableton Live. Both applications of= fer extensive MIDI data filtering and MIDI data transformation. Logic will = be using its global cycle mode for looping, which means all loops has to be= of the same length. Ableton Live offers individual lengths for all loops, = if you use the Mix View.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Mark Ham= burg <mark@grubmah= .com> wrote:
Are there any MIDI loopers that recognize w= hen you've played the same sequence of notes (modulo minor timing and v= elocity variations) more than once and automatically turn it into a loop?

--000e0cd7226e65c3b7047760f7f7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 11:25:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDDD73BE7E; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AEEC1C6.3050802@mnet-online.de> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:25:58 +0100 From: Florian Anwander User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI Looping References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at gw2.consol.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Hi > I don't think so. But this is typically something I imagine can be built > in MAX. basically you always have to define what shall be recognized as a pattern. Whether it is a time orientated definition like a bar or a certain number of notes. But you have to say: what _is_ a pattern and what is _not_ a pattern. If you do not do this you will always run into the trap with two repeating notes being recognized as two repetions of a one-note-pattern. (And saying a single note cannot be a pattern is not good, because you may want a steadily repeating single sustained base note). > Another suggestion to reach a similar effect in MIDI looping is to > define certain MIDI note numbers to trig certain functions. Then you > simply play those notes to give looping commands like "record", "stop > recording", "new track" etc. This is a very nice idea. It makes the handling much easier. > Logic will be using its global cycle mode for looping, > which means all loops has to be of the same length. Not necessarily. You can setup a very long song length (two thousand and something bars which can be several hours - depending on tempo and measure settings), and use then the loop function per sequencer. That way also a individual loop length per track can be achieved. I went through all this, because looping with MIDI (or CV/Gate) was exactly what I was looking for. All this requires extensive preparation on a laptop. Maybe this does not disturb others, but I wanted to get away from that kind of making music. I don't want to klick thousand times anymore, before I can play a single note of music. After all that trials and tribulations I finally decided to use standard audio looper hardware - an Electrix Repeater and a Lexicon Jamman - and record my synths there. This is of course my personal point of view based on my being bored after 25 years of making music with computers and doing my dayjob in a software company. Florian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 11:46:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30E323BE80; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ycBGVuRk3KksYXXCa6s9zGaChnLTRIxWB23xyvMPJxw=; b=iy5WMXwdCUOBEy0bzwbbSTRMg6p0qvRWYa7+McO9ZlWTH2sNybg9waUXQA8YPBee/M NZy5ALoYBYjMsg1mRYTcUeBn8td5FnYoRHH+Msv2AwcCNoQ/A8jVEh4eaB0iJh8JCB7e dRVx1Z8OuRiV1LdRAC8tRwKgmSw25ICONBXS8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=e/9INkQ6A+ZKrjm7Ki/4AlCeeEB67rFYPcKc5rkQyxzTDC9rTzzgrPpdffvwSAiKbQ xo4KXgSKTjhjflD2roP6YYbqQCHzB75Lc1p3exAQowajnE6aRN9wA7cO/2re8qhNQlvL pVjvb03DCVoS+KnFLfVOWHd1afsrDiW3JPXBY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4AEEC1C6.3050802@mnet-online.de> References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEC1C6.3050802@mnet-online.de> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:45:59 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911020345i3548b453jb23c6d72663f20f7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI Looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd7040adf57c4047761ebe6 Resent-Message-ID: <-PLYr.A.zlF.4Zs7KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:46:00 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd7040adf57c4047761ebe6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Logic will be using its global cycle mode for looping, which means all > loops has to be of the same length. > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Florian Anwander wrote: > > Not necessarily. You can setup a very long song length (two thousand and > something bars which can be several hours - depending on tempo and measure > settings), and use then the loop function per sequencer. That way also a > individual loop length per track can be achieved. > Just a short explanation for those not familiar with Logic: I and Florian are talking about two different ways of making MIDI looping happen in Logic: 1) Global cycle mode: One loop length for all loops, loop length for all loops can be changed though. 2) Many separate MIDI Regions: Regions can be of different length and interact poly rhythmically. This is close to using Ableton Live in Mixer View, but with Logic you see all looping regions graphically in a linear way which makes it simpler to get a quick understanding the periodicity in which loops of different lengths sync their starting downbeat. One can combine both methods too, as for example Thomas Dolby does in his live show. After all that trials and tribulations I finally decided to use standard > audio looper hardware - an Electrix Repeater and a Lexicon Jamman - and > record my synths there. > That's an interesting point. I too often chose this method. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --000e0cd7040adf57c4047761ebe6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Logic will be usi= ng its global cycle mode for looping, which means all loops has to be of th= e same length.


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Florian= Anwander <fanwander@mnet-online.de> wrote:

Not necessarily. You can setup a very long song length (two thousand and so= mething bars which can be several hours - depending on tempo and measure se= ttings), and use then the loop function per sequencer. That way also a indi= vidual loop length per track can be achieved.


Just a short explanation for those not familiar w= ith Logic: I and Florian are talking about two different ways of making MID= I looping happen in Logic:

1) Global cycle mode:
One loop length= for all loops, loop length for all loops can be changed though.

2) Many separate MIDI Regions:
=C2=A0Regions can be of different len= gth and interact poly rhythmically. This is close to using Ableton Live in = Mixer View, but with Logic you see all looping regions graphically in a lin= ear way which makes it simpler to get a quick understanding the periodicity= in which loops of different lengths sync their starting downbeat.

One can combine both methods too, as for example Thomas Dolby does in h= is live show.


After all that trials and tribulations I finally decided to use standard au= dio looper hardware - an Electrix Repeater and a Lexicon Jamman - and recor= d my synths there.

That's an interestin= g point. I too often chose this method.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
--000e0cd7040adf57c4047761ebe6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 12:06:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69BA73BE79; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AEECB7B.5010809@mnet-online.de> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:07:23 +0100 From: Florian Anwander User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI Looping References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEC1C6.3050802@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020345i3548b453jb23c6d72663f20f7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911020345i3548b453jb23c6d72663f20f7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at gw2.consol.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per > One can combine both methods too, as for example Thomas Dolby does in > his live show. I have the Sole Inhabitant DVD, but until now I did not yet pay too much attention to his computerscreens. > After all that trials and tribulations I finally decided to use > standard audio looper hardware - an Electrix Repeater and a Lexicon > Jamman - and record my synths there. > That's an interesting point. I too often chose this method. By the way. I had a short email communication on the development of a simple MIDI-Looper with a guy who does several cool PIC based tools (Kaspar from www.frequencyresponse.ch). He is just busy at the moment doing his university degrees, but he is very interested in developing a MIDI-looper after that. Florian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 15:03:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A9603BE7F; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Frad1TggLNviP9gAK1pgvJbqr1YfthZqxLZlR8SGEvQ=; b=kKvKkauWozHHGDms9YVR5Qe9vlG25Qs5PL7kSuDaWko9rZOwDNR7B7mOEbzAd/A9s9 tB6L3RkLAe5qOKFt/6sS591b2wxzmx35ZY16RC0PQZ8LSjPWmWqkqMe9IYjMhsuOSe2+ Z03tFbKGjstKOXnGePfaSKBDgpRWkhyGa3TTo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Rqz6eLoz52bwN6GX/g7YA/OXN23Nb6M5lM9Q6ww2vCfx86J693lmTxnMTLoMgjyzpe WITh9uFO/fVp4nEF6aII8T76u3l7j8Spu0C6ITLLA2MYlHLYD9RRTWrlxvI6Q3eQXmLV 979Mk9mHm3UfYj+OVmmFVNFbbKxlcIK26I5R8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4AEECB7B.5010809@mnet-online.de> References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEC1C6.3050802@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020345i3548b453jb23c6d72663f20f7@mail.gmail.com> <4AEECB7B.5010809@mnet-online.de> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:03:16 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911020703k3dc6d9a8waaf4af8fb83077@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI Looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5a1aa71a89d047764ad2a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:03:18 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd5a1aa71a89d047764ad2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Florian Anwander wrote: > By the way. I had a short email communication on the development of a > simple MIDI-Looper with a guy who does several cool PIC based tools (Kaspar > from www.frequencyresponse.ch). He is just busy at the moment doing his > university degrees, but he is very interested in developing a MIDI-looper > after that. > Not sure about "a simple MIDI looper" but I would definitely think a full featured MIDI Looper would be highly interesting. Either as a plug-in or as a standalone application that sends its MIDI out through a virtual MIDI pipe like Apples OS X or the MIDI Yoke hack of Windows. To me the AKAI EWI 4000s feels just as playable and expressive as an acoustic instrument when playing it as a MIDI controller. So being able to loop that MIDI would be awesome! Except of MIDI note data the EWI also uses Breath (CC#2), Sustain (CC#64), Portamento/Glide (CC#5) and Pitchbend. A MIDI looper would need to record that stream of MIDI data just as it comes out when you play the instrument. Then the looper would need to assign a new MIDI channel for every new loop layer, because otherwise all the CC# data would interfere between the layers. This limitation gives that a MIDI looper can only record 16 layers into the loop. There seems to be some delicate issues to solve for anyone that wants to develop a MIDI looper. I hope your friend makes a try! For me though, having changed all hardware gear into software on a laptop, I guess an audio looper will continue to be the best solutions - looping the audio output of MIDI driven electronic virtual instruments. The reason for this assumption is that I find it hard that a computer will be able to run as many virtual instruments at the same time for MIDI looping. I use some twenty to thirty instrument patches when performing with the EWI and with audio looping it doesn't tax the CPU much. Two or three patches used simultaneously in real-time is close to what an Intel Dual 2 Core 2.26 GHz can handle. Although it doesn't really seem realistic yet, MIDI looping is an interesting idea ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --000e0cd5a1aa71a89d047764ad2a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Florian Anwander <fanwander@mnet-online.de> wrote:
By the way. I had a short email communicati= on on the development of a simple MIDI-Looper with a guy who does several c= ool PIC based tools (Kaspar from www.frequencyresponse.ch). He is just busy at the m= oment doing his university degrees, but he is very interested in developing= a MIDI-looper after that.

Not sure about "a simple MIDI looper" but = I would definitely think a full featured MIDI Looper would be highly intere= sting. Either as a plug-in or as a standalone application that sends its MI= DI out through a virtual MIDI pipe like Apples OS X or the MIDI Yoke hack o= f Windows. To me the AKAI EWI 4000s feels just as playable and expressive a= s an acoustic instrument when playing it as a MIDI controller. So being abl= e to loop that MIDI would be awesome! Except of MIDI note data the EWI also= uses Breath (CC#2), Sustain (CC#64), Portamento/Glide (CC#5) and Pitchbend= .

A MIDI looper would need to record that stream of MIDI data just as it = comes out when you play the instrument. Then the looper would need to assig= n a new MIDI channel for every new loop layer, because otherwise all the CC= # data would interfere between the layers. This limitation gives that a MID= I looper can only record 16 layers into the loop.

There seems to be some delicate issues to solve for anyone that wants t= o develop a MIDI looper. I hope your friend makes a try! For me though, hav= ing changed all hardware gear into software on a laptop, I guess an audio l= ooper will continue to be the best solutions - looping the audio output of = MIDI driven electronic virtual instruments. The reason for this assumption = is that I find it hard that a computer will be able to run as many virtual = instruments at the same time for MIDI looping. I use some twenty to thirty = instrument patches when performing with the EWI and with audio looping it d= oesn't tax the CPU much. Two or three patches used simultaneously in re= al-time is close to what an Intel Dual 2 Core 2.26 GHz can handle. Although= it doesn't really seem realistic yet, MIDI looping is an interesting i= dea ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
--000e0cd5a1aa71a89d047764ad2a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 15:34:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07FB93BE79; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AEEFC17.1010505@mnet-online.de> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:34:47 +0100 From: Florian Anwander User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI Looping References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEC1C6.3050802@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020345i3548b453jb23c6d72663f20f7@mail.gmail.com> <4AEECB7B.5010809@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020703k3dc6d9a8waaf4af8fb83077@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911020703k3dc6d9a8waaf4af8fb83077@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at gw2.consol.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per > full featured MIDI Looper would be highly interesting. Either as a > plug-in or as a standalone application that sends its MIDI out through I am talking about a hardware device: * records notes on/off only and drops anything else. * record, play, stop button * four track-selector buttons * button for MIDI-channel, tempo, loop length, bar length (for predefining loops if wanted), quantize * selector for internal/external clock, * a dial encoder for config data input * small display Nothing else. Florian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 15:41:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48C3F3BE81; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WXpOlKmxMYfUXN3pGjGdQJflP3pN7sfSS9Uf131AyQs=; b=TO0M4wJ+tXEqPNpE0iVLLXpTnIitrECBY8cWGuVUOcMTqjw/lDLa0NwKIglvKH5Rnb mo2r6f908NprInLgj8sXyOuPtn+gnzcoqj5heUhN+v2AtVxgERUDyMpM7nvPGRUUAnaf UxMyHR/4LBAetxkKDFEtuFKrsXzJm75RUSvYU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rUBa4KQ+/92bQHdT/hDZDarXT/KrG9SWAlcdv4P/wd4h98V6emYc6SOD9Q6mvRCpit wBlf887m1QWmKvjHURd3I9+SM43hIiMF7DpJUtG4RUXraULMZBGwreiESe3/AYAGy+LW e1F25Px9EMfLGdXhyYjkXj5ceoM2Rd8QMujh0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4AEEFC17.1010505@mnet-online.de> References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEC1C6.3050802@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020345i3548b453jb23c6d72663f20f7@mail.gmail.com> <4AEECB7B.5010809@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020703k3dc6d9a8waaf4af8fb83077@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEFC17.1010505@mnet-online.de> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:41:22 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911020741x6ce527dcted2b174a1f5faa26@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI Looping From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6c980aab09e047765352f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:41:23 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6c980aab09e047765352f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Ok, I see. I'm afraid it wouldn't be of interest for me then. I'm pretty sure I will not be able to afford a hardware locked MIDI looper and the feature set doesn't match my musical needs either. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Florian Anwander wrote: > Hi Per > > > full featured MIDI Looper would be highly interesting. Either as a plug-in >> or as a standalone application that sends its MIDI out through >> > I am talking about a hardware device: > > * records notes on/off only and drops anything else. > * record, play, stop button > * four track-selector buttons > * button for MIDI-channel, tempo, loop length, bar length (for predefining > loops if wanted), quantize > * selector for internal/external clock, > * a dial encoder for config data input > * small display > Nothing else. > > > Florian > > --000e0cd6c980aab09e047765352f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, I see. I'm afraid it wouldn't be of interest for me then. I'= ;m pretty sure I will not be able to afford a hardware locked MIDI looper a= nd the feature set doesn't match my musical needs either.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.c= om


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Florian = Anwander <= fanwander@mnet-online.de> wrote:
Hi Per


full featured MIDI Looper would be highly interesting. Either as a plug-in = or as a standalone application that sends its MIDI out through
I am talking about a hardware device:

* records notes on/off only and drops anything else.
* record, play, stop button
* four track-selector buttons
* button for MIDI-channel, tempo, loop length, bar length (for predefining = loops if wanted), quantize
* selector for internal/external clock,
* a dial encoder for config data input
* small display
Nothing else.


Florian


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--0-1481755769-1257178125=:19953-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 17:41:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC3E73BE82; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AEF1A04.507@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:42:28 -0500 From: Daryl User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" References: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:41:33 +0000 (UTC) This is an interesting read by Pat Metheny about his upcoming project, which will be a solo recording, using technology to "extend his reach". I can't tell quite precisely what he's talking about, whether it'll be looping, or triggering samples, but I found fascinating to see his take on incorporating new technologies. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 17:47:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9ABC3BE80; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:47:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 279453479/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.233.17/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.233.17 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq8BAB+q7kpPTukR/2dsb2JhbAAIhGzISo9fgTGCOFME X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,668,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="279453479" Message-ID: <4AEF1B24.5040305@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:47:16 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI Looping References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEC1C6.3050802@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020345i3548b453jb23c6d72663f20f7@mail.gmail.com> <4AEECB7B.5010809@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020703k3dc6d9a8waaf4af8fb83077@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEFC17.1010505@mnet-online.de> In-Reply-To: <4AEEFC17.1010505@mnet-online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:47:01 +0000 (UTC) Florian Anwander wrote: > Hi Per > I am talking about a hardware device: > * button for MIDI-channel, tempo, loop length, bar length (for > predefining loops if wanted), quantize If it can do a non-pre-defined loop length that will be something significantly new. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 19:21:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97F1C3BE82; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AEF3162.7060603@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:22:10 -0500 From: Daryl User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" References: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:21:16 +0000 (UTC) This is an interesting read by Pat Metheny about his upcoming project, which will be a solo recording, using technology to "extend his reach". I can't tell quite precisely what he's talking about, whether it'll be looping, or triggering samples, but I found fascinating to see his take on incorporating new technologies. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 19:21:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08DA33BE8A; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AEF3169.9050108@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:22:17 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" References: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:21:23 +0000 (UTC) This is an interesting read by Pat Metheny about his upcoming project, which will be a solo recording, using technology to "extend his reach". I can't tell quite precisely what he's talking about, whether it'll be looping, or triggering samples, but I found fascinating to see his take on incorporating new technologies. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 19:36:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 506543BE87; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:36:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zEx9BdE7r2aTp2z+En4xea33Y0ajMjOdRKXCJAH85Zg=; b=DJ72vWH0j51c16zeGIk/pz7hmjP+iiEAz+6E108bFvHE7XPsgcllmRn7Epj5OC4aX7 kcdhVVGGA5IsAKDx17fjEW7PEt5zTxMpM4QhgpOBD1NrbJEZsYoCZWGEYA8nQAFLp7Dl /xZWNtWUbPyJqj9ML7ku/htt5Ndslpo6gqi+k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=EVFCgNXV0jE5ZwDbFUve5IrLkmzUASHBDUpTCkzTCp7+9LwVULDX3igMW51YsTGxL5 0ZJx+r3f//NYJ29wH5BXfOa3WHQu9884ajI724rJOxpDkIwcOBPn3ThH86wQUgaq3JB/ P9yK/UmH1eVrCq1KmkDEnTYutAkdKp/aBPPks= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4AEF3169.9050108@mhorse.com> References: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> <4AEF3169.9050108@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:36:02 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: aefff3aa998ce06d Message-ID: <101191640911021136n4f6eff58v34e465faa443ec28@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:36:07 +0000 (UTC) hmm... 3 identical posts, but no link. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > This is an interesting read by Pat Metheny about his upcoming project, > which will be a solo recording, using technology to "extend his reach". > I can't tell quite precisely what he's talking about, whether it'll be > looping, or triggering samples, but I found fascinating to see his take > on incorporating new technologies. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 19:44:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 433883BE8A; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=QXkB4bcz6Ox+QAibI1Ue4yRGha8IVV9vMDwwc9awBvc=; b=Z4eg66ZHfInyOWSBduq5EEwqG+/2exSj5mMOL2DnWLWwDhExCZknHbz2EQTkn2gWpK 4knE4v95/Xv173qF8heILPMfUBsCNTt+6Z6bfalyj4+RZlzXmZs03o3JQEtFkBLPmjFr McoYAtrEAMOk2ORuPTXez3bPAr148riPaK3dw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=CXV8Adv20hzb2qxtUD79YidRzHgAka4/HIsFyV0QPaoooaeInGGKTF6VRgQFkOa0o3 MvUVcd4YJ5hUXVcWcmgrbcJ3OJmbBK+nRJtbEZAT2kJYR2yXQkZPAV4wH1DMuM22/4kA h2YTR+3TlnzudSy53HOtm2GNnDi+Kj7Qsewlk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: darylshawn@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <101191640911021136n4f6eff58v34e465faa443ec28@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0910100830r39f0cfcdp54c429ae877eddf@mail.gmail.com> <4AEF3169.9050108@mhorse.com> <101191640911021136n4f6eff58v34e465faa443ec28@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:44:00 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 576474ee1fa2b85e Message-ID: <1f0784c0911021144g453f740o2682f7bd8ca4ec9f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" From: Daryl Shawn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ed88a638c440477689901 Resent-Message-ID: <6jGYLB.A.gjG.Baz7KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:44:01 +0000 (UTC) --0016364ed88a638c440477689901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Aargh...SO sorry. I got unsubbed, then signed up and tried to post. After each of the first two messages, I got emails saying they'd been rejected, but I guess they went through anyway. Then I forgot the damn link after all. Bad LD member! (smacking self on head w/copy of "It's Gonna Rain"...) Here's the linky-link: http://www.patmetheny.com/orchestrioninfo/ Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com hmm... 3 identical posts, but no link. > > --0016364ed88a638c440477689901 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aargh...SO sorry. I got unsubbed, then signed up and tried to post. After e= ach of the first two messages, I got emails saying they'd been rejected= , but I guess they went through anyway. Then I forgot the damn link after a= ll. Bad LD member! (smacking self on head w/copy of "It's Gonna Ra= in"...)

Here's the linky-link:

http://www.patmetheny.com/orchestrioninfo/

Dar= yl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com



hmm... 3 identical posts, but no link.


--0016364ed88a638c440477689901-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 19:44:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83EB93BE8B; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257191067; bh=7JdKDNMac5als7amMHC3aQDvZREFYqcrzy8+VoGoX8U=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UQAbflKGo90oewAVUm0inDY/HojIkPHCwhfwPl9vm0y8fCPj5nsTiAcu7TS3v0ZyI3wFAtos4l1hKM9See4g9kcL4KKBg+Jo9Yi9WJL+CkwROj8805Y/zrdIbcZ0HPN5L9/7vhyp/RIa5dmT5wUp7bCTAylkef9xWD+i/jpLTyU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=t5nliG91zthZNYL+Q1PDmKaSWct8gcvjwSqkzW5XJvLoTG4i8dlffmsC38jqlGqjAyR8TTGvIcNxL+BSmvCPTjIDIcnzOcqUUOXbBZgeZuZUf2oJfSTjMC8zgRX5gNu+qZWBx3vYesmUkdZ+BBZiN0rJp+lB0xgbCowJa+GhFeU=; Message-ID: <90772.28174.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: wfvizWYVM1l9HaKk9MHARk2mZKGxRX__CwPuq8LBCiUJRwm8gH0xgxNBfMxbI_Xk24DrjI9TUS.foO88qsJNPwppwBQIn2vHUWyRUwcdCijAHIQzRg8xvcaoUNYCov.A0JSRVJCzs7dyUqEHDXLT4Il8iTddFEIDqhV0rAmKhCEV9bSINt5QX.WLbf0Oy2iis1V1AK8Rfb8KwZqUNQ8qRpkx6g0k2frSS5HnY0Brx9or4FiKtMOg1DLnbfKef5qkvQ4yq6mk_4_7cy52xAttb9m_s9eI1c8Qyv087YS7ZXUfXjgClC61pouA1ygfe2mvz.6vjX2YUkQyzh6vmLD4uppsQ3mOul0cM36NMML0ybvDQcHbqlgN2mnuvR0NM9Why0OLOh..FKtlwb81wE_OwlQ- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:44:27 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4AEF3169.9050108@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1981036571-1257191067=:28174" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:44:28 +0000 (UTC) --0-1981036571-1257191067=:28174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please re-send! :) =A0 Pat Metheny rules. I was just listening to (Still Life) Talking and wished = that incarnation of his band would reform - although I like almost everythi= ng that Pat M. has ever done. He is a major influence on my playing. I've s= een him more than a few times and watching him play closeup is almost a rel= igious experience. =A0 P --- On Mon, 11/2/09, Daryl Shawn wrote: From: Daryl Shawn Subject: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 2:22 PM This is an interesting read by Pat Metheny about his upcoming project, which will be a solo recording, using technology to "extend his reach". I can't tell quite precisely what he's talking about, whether it'll be looping, or triggering samples, but I found fascinating to see his take on incorporating new technologies. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com =0A=0A=0A --0-1981036571-1257191067=:28174 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Please re-send! :)
 
Pat Metheny rules. I was just listening to (Still Life) Talking and wi= shed that incarnation of his band would reform - although I like almost eve= rything that Pat M. has ever done. He is a major influence on my playing. I= 've seen him more than a few times and watching him play closeup is almost = a religious experience.
 
P

--- On Mon, 11/2/09, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.c= om> wrote:

From: Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com>Subject: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion"
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com
Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 2:22 PM

This is an interesting read by Pat Metheny about his= upcoming project,
which will be a solo recording, using technology to "= extend his reach".
I can't tell quite precisely what he's talking about,= whether it'll be
looping, or triggering samples, but I found fascinatin= g to see his take
on incorporating new technologies.

Daryl Shawn<= BR>www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com



=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1981036571-1257191067=:28174-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 21:30:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEC7A3BE85; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-id: <370478B6-A0D2-4D93-80F2-A239DD973F27@mac.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Sewell Subject: Adrenalinn as a plug-in Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:30:03 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Nice. http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.php/lang/en/id/5384/AdrenaLinn- Sync From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 21:44:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BA9C3BE82; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:44:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1LlGM7hmzD6zAtx+odXzKk3bTaAcdEE6gfKKqXUA02E=; b=Ktl9p5xZkgHUFkqxnoQ06QiVHAeL5c3u6LhIUvq2awSQuSvS0ucIecEVt0hxKkcuHX 0hEcBaCmpZeqpduRAgZzodGkwcPQ7QIGiQICvHuDOf4dhd5G+sQbp4kpIZHYf7Spg+qb pUPLfKLt1FtlGQWK6r4vFSwU18Mq3agzBYKZM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=a05sq/Z3Y1TwiWmiw9MHKJ5otqIJf5WYO0hKjUSWX3XCcvSgDOxsnK8732gf58MwSW /7Rs+RJTZdITcfQwRqesotP1FvMF8x+IzGAgrl4SWuImDgMwChS2gitRg+N74h7++Umi y4/noKyipcUfZ4/nxlWg5/1sScrC1tQn60SOY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <370478B6-A0D2-4D93-80F2-A239DD973F27@mac.com> References: <370478B6-A0D2-4D93-80F2-A239DD973F27@mac.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:44:42 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911021344w78c9142ck395f3d699eea8d93@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Adrenalinn as a plug-in From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd573d409eb2104776a49ca Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:44:43 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd573d409eb2104776a49ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Nice. > > http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.php/lang/en/id/5384/AdrenaLinn-Sync Maaahgaaaawd... what a sweet must-have!!!! I suspect no other piece of gear offers > Musical Scale Constraints -- Snap the LFO or Sequencer modulation signals > chromatic, major, minor, pentatonic, blues, whole tone, diminished or seven > other musical scales. > Per --000e0cd573d409eb2104776a49ca Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
> Nice.
>
> = http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.php/lang/en/id/5384/Adrena= Linn-Sync

Maaahgaaaawd... what a sweet must-have!!!!
I suspect no other piece= of gear offers
Musical Scale Constraints -- Snap the LFO or Sequencer modulation signals c= hromatic, major, minor, pentatonic, blues, whole tone, diminished or seven = other musical scales.

Per --000e0cd573d409eb2104776a49ca-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 22:20:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE2FD3BE80; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DD6aYVeMA0PBhWDDZu9Nt+UiZ4EBpBKrtT9yF8gesmE=; b=OgrS8XPZWkyZgrvaFdxpEgnr4n0XXOrQCr/4exc8N4klhPBQPCIxIySDzDeQr8i7OB oAB+euN0bZfIH/876FRs5SLHRr5k6muaQ/k+Va98wziGaEDkP6xYQ0hZxIs2UTMIPeA4 NxrONLWmTGwoth3OOtncmC5P1Pt+rSsE9xXVs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Gk5KvNt09lZhN0f8ZTOItjNx5Ua/DbmSyTpvqDZGcUmWIq/JWP2qopEZae23AjtNBY ANOsfIKR2Q0+plSPfVcT6To/tQ2I+nHV6jobGsIr9xdU/GmZWxMJkvY9lUUgZmsgEc4+ Sgygd9MdZ+Nx0rLSZUBPTG0zEO1Klyv6MQt3g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5AF48EEE-A536-4024-86AF-5D5354818C81@grubmah.com> References: <20090926172709.10750@gmx.net> <4ABE616F.6040203@tiscali.co.uk> <5AF48EEE-A536-4024-86AF-5D5354818C81@grubmah.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:20:39 -0800 Message-ID: <1318f21d0911021420j307a380cpae9ce838c7928e50@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: wah pedal with midi interface From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd253849aebef04776ac9e7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:20:40 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd253849aebef04776ac9e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The Line 6 FBV Express mkII is a pretty neat compact MIDI controller that has an expression pedal with toe switch: http://line6.com/footcontrollers/fbvexpressmkii.html It was designed to work with their amps, but is also a bus-powered generic USB interface. Gorry for the late reply...catching up on old messages... -George On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > I've wanted an expression pedal with a toe switch though it didn't need to > be MIDI. This would have been for controlling feedback + hold on the > DL8000R. This isn't that, but the toe switch is the one thing I could see > that would be different about a wah pedal as a MIDI controller relative to > an expression pedal. > > Mark > > > On Sep 26, 2009, at 11:46 AM, andy butler wrote: > > I think it's just that it's midi controllable. >> >> I can imagine it might be nice to have an analog wah which >> could also be a midi controller, ...but I don't >> that's what we have here. >> >> Buzap Buzap wrote: >> >>> Don't really get it - what's the point? >>> I either have a "real" wah pedal or I have a midi pedal (expression >>> pedal) controlling some software fx. >>> best regards >>> Buzap >>> >> >> >> > -- -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --000e0cd253849aebef04776ac9e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The Line 6 FBV Express mkII is a pretty neat compact MIDI controller t= hat has an expression pedal with toe switch: http://line6.com/footcontrollers/fbvexpr= essmkii.html
=A0
It was designed to work with their amps, but is also a bus-powered gen= eric USB interface.
=A0
Gorry for the late reply...catching up on old messages...
=A0
-George

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
I've wanted an expression pe= dal with a toe switch though it didn't need to be MIDI. This would have= been for controlling feedback + hold on the DL8000R. This isn't that, = but the toe switch is the one thing I could see that would be different abo= ut a wah pedal as a MIDI controller relative to an expression pedal.

Mark=20


On Sep 26, 2009, at 11:46 AM, andy butler wrote:<= br>
I think it's just that it= 9;s midi controllable.

I can imagine it might be nice to have an ana= log wah which
could also be a midi controller, ...but I don't
that's what we h= ave here.

Buzap Buzap wrote:
Don't really get it - what&#= 39;s the point?
I either have a "real" wah pedal or I have a m= idi pedal (expression pedal) controlling some software fx.
best regards
Buzap



=



--
-George

http://www.myspace.com/george= ludwigmusic
--000e0cd253849aebef04776ac9e7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 22:23:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 880FF3BE80; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:23:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FTQjEl8DlFb0r8DJQNqky9eQ8jGKKijCauM1xMR6HwI=; b=AONBZPS3GUcOaow86rxwYK079mdQQPsympf2soBeboqniljBwH/ZcI9JYkH/l4VZ+S uMCcRUcS2EnBXhks2bXUfCI/oQu0JeFXHiOE3/zWtFFeiwqGn84oaTntWHuypiaakf3q qwVwdYvlTwae1293yM2Cah+qT5JlK0hUWkUdo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bf6VE/y1eSYJHiMzxJsVe38jEn/TvWpHSpY1D9ycQI7/SLJAgb7WALFNWmpQ+xdWCp Jkflckq3CdVifm16hOVc36Th3pe89J/0l69XperNBXkFLSJ7GISLa+fgGMOjXPWcVK84 HIbw7oAuUJZXkE7+BTqrH0em0WpJ9m/PaHIik= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911021344w78c9142ck395f3d699eea8d93@mail.gmail.com> References: <370478B6-A0D2-4D93-80F2-A239DD973F27@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911021344w78c9142ck395f3d699eea8d93@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:23:55 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911021423i1e2537adlcfb59a3e6e0a4737@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Adrenalinn as a plug-in From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:23:56 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > > Nice. > > > > http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.php/lang/en/id/5384/AdrenaLinn-Sync > > Maaahgaaaawd... what a sweet must-have!!!! > I suspect no other piece of gear offers >> >> Musical Scale Constraints -- Snap the LFO or Sequencer modulation signals chromatic, major, minor, pentatonic, blues, whole tone, diminished or seven other musical scales. > > Per Please excuse my too quick reply! The AdreanaLinn Sync Installer, for the demo, says that untime 3.6.1 or Pluggo 3.6.1 is needed. But Pluggo is a discontinued product of Cycling74. And the product page http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.shtml is not listed in the sites navigation control, meaning it is not meant to go public? This reminds me about that Repeater software from Electrixpro! Some things just are too good to be true ;-)) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 22:51:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9770F3BE84; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed In-reply-to: <66f9cc1e0911021423i1e2537adlcfb59a3e6e0a4737@mail.gmail.com> References: <370478B6-A0D2-4D93-80F2-A239DD973F27@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911021344w78c9142ck395f3d699eea8d93@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911021423i1e2537adlcfb59a3e6e0a4737@mail.gmail.com> Message-id: From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Adrenalinn as a plug-in Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:51:30 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Well thats bullshit. On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Per Boysen > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Chris Sewell >> wrote: >>> Nice. >>> >>> http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.php/lang/en/id/5384/ >>> AdrenaLinn-Sync >> >> Maaahgaaaawd... what a sweet must-have!!!! >> I suspect no other piece of gear offers >>> >>> Musical Scale Constraints -- Snap the LFO or Sequencer modulation >>> signals chromatic, major, minor, pentatonic, blues, whole tone, >>> diminished or seven other musical scales. >> >> Per > > > Please excuse my too quick reply! The AdreanaLinn Sync Installer, for > the demo, says that untime 3.6.1 or Pluggo 3.6.1 is needed. But Pluggo > is a discontinued product of Cycling74. And the product page > http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.shtml > is not listed in the sites navigation control, meaning it is not meant > to go public? > > This reminds me about that Repeater software from Electrixpro! Some > things just are too good to be true ;-)) > > Per > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 22:54:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D5CB3BE84; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:54:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nNPacYThcrCb/mojEsLaZBIyt+BhAq6ifYPCrSS6lAg=; b=qCHcl/jVzlLqPwztBcyRj86o/chrYw4JX04V5LxvodSL4AM0PAl8x5yLSU4MPYDsPm v8RFcq8ioWpng3mgZjG2awCAvHXrSSIluh1QtU7SvDwGiH07fJht7UkT+MtSFvcYjGML MPysQ24S1tFSi0IxhVetqyagIFbwMSS9WZ8fY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=KilxWu1la8JFM1Dr5T8MSR0L3P+Q5nqI7iq8bvIwAPM5mhDGEqo8Nn0n5+AW7B3asP 7lknSea7u46ynNvpTcR+5KX86iSSNgbVJ3x56P+KO5QkStrfWfv6lhEGMcyau19yKGNc u/B6prbNXF6UlmjJ09KqK3fJRscf60WU+cmFo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <370478B6-A0D2-4D93-80F2-A239DD973F27@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911021344w78c9142ck395f3d699eea8d93@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911021423i1e2537adlcfb59a3e6e0a4737@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:54:53 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dc3116f6843ac056 Message-ID: <37f071c00911021454x1a6a1998s6bdea762ed8d8f77@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Adrenalinn as a plug-in From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <1SBoB.A.L-H.-M27KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:54:54 +0000 (UTC) No, its on the front page of the site. http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/ Give them a call or drop them a line, they're great people and will surely tell you what the deal is. I started to download and got to an actual package download so there's something there to be had. Kevin On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Well thats bullshit. >> >> >> Please excuse my too quick reply! The AdreanaLinn Sync Installer, for >> the demo, says that untime 3.6.1 or Pluggo 3.6.1 is needed. But Pluggo >> is a discontinued product of Cycling74. And the product page >> http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.shtml >> is not listed in the sites navigation control, meaning it is not meant >> to go public? >> >> This reminds me about that Repeater software from Electrixpro! Some >> things just are too good to be true ;-)) >> >> Per >> > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Nov 2 23:11:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0B343BE85; Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dwTkeFkeMZMj16QnyXndkMzLIKSDjAPQWaULqxC2BGc=; b=IAXQCPazta6svbFvWinUFHFYP5jUUJNvbPKRo99WXQm0nF2d94lSEZBW/xiojcuE9L xkRLO4CQAkUuOcEXMh5ERnHqW5Ik0SPMHyNMQceor/DkXFbpG2OQUUHdc8yLECO950C8 NATmXqvRnbFbUyOGDFMSxLOcrDXxLNfObDDrU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JgqZQyGPWdF2jsErUr47iWjZIUGvPUjeUo95uHuGsvtLUhZUN+o4Goml32urm5v4or VUJIUdDO4rYe6HzkhpHOlpOJa218j96orStVbXYjC6XKwqoQbtJszHa+Iv5NMzdb67UX fOWjgQiwmR/dK3Tq1DPsW5h0c2cQD17LgOdrE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37f071c00911021454x1a6a1998s6bdea762ed8d8f77@mail.gmail.com> References: <370478B6-A0D2-4D93-80F2-A239DD973F27@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911021344w78c9142ck395f3d699eea8d93@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911021423i1e2537adlcfb59a3e6e0a4737@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00911021454x1a6a1998s6bdea762ed8d8f77@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:11:49 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911021511x7c587fd9qa64919e485d428ca@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Adrenalinn as a plug-in From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Good to see it is on the front page! Maybe they didn't think they need to have a link to the product presentation page because it can be reached by clicking the front page picture? I too downloaded the two weeks demo installer and it was this installer that that told me Pluggo 3.6.1 is need for the AdrenaLinn Sync. This may not a problem for me today, being a Pluggo owner, but the fact that Pluggo is a discontinued product makes AdrenaLinn Sync come out as a no very future proof investment for users. I will definitely keep monitoring the page in case some clarification on this is to be published. This is indeed an exciting product! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > No, its on the front page of the site. > > http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/ > > Give them a call or drop them a line, they're great people and will > surely tell you what the deal is. =C2=A0I started to download and got to = an > actual package download so there's something there to be had. > > Kevin > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: >> Well thats bullshit. > >>> >>> >>> Please excuse my too quick reply! The AdreanaLinn Sync Installer, for >>> the demo, says that untime 3.6.1 or Pluggo 3.6.1 is needed. But Pluggo >>> is a discontinued product of Cycling74. And the product page >>> http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.shtml >>> is not listed in the sites navigation control, meaning it is not meant >>> to go public? >>> >>> This reminds me about that Repeater software from Electrixpro! Some >>> things just are too good to be true ;-)) >>> >>> Per >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: =C2=A0http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 00:02:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DDB03BE80; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:02:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3XLgSLxVAJDwAcam7OE3IY6VkFBF+STRAZ4cp6TFSz4=; b=h2zeQ/uz9b9qS4u3Xq0K7OLrHiNhOJG9wO58+TFwG78bU4IkQFGYnrqKh08lB4DXv9 pnSUx9TBm4Q8aShk6QwmtVM2eEo1hTnG/xqPDi0VkBm4OfSi6GVRcgjqa9QzYG3SA7Yv CZbcLbrHt6dlUTepOaEAfwbJIEwNVsYQyk3MY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xm1UQu4uMY2zSY4VFzvXA6ROHGTxLbnGWNnZQpyRn0PV6/ysmLk+DydxtFYpK/vPFt hldQGMYdHoCjkk0J7Sr8gtDdvD+ImLW2AXnrEyJf5o03ew52XUy5vy5TQQ7yZRa8srYI z/4te3woVznXpRunZNDw/i5VpVqf/I6WZOd0M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1318f21d0911021420j307a380cpae9ce838c7928e50@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090926172709.10750@gmx.net> <4ABE616F.6040203@tiscali.co.uk> <5AF48EEE-A536-4024-86AF-5D5354818C81@grubmah.com> <1318f21d0911021420j307a380cpae9ce838c7928e50@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:02:10 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0911021602y39e1f39bs34c5c0926d6a4811@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: wah pedal with midi interface From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:02:11 +0000 (UTC) The IK Multimedia Stealth pedal is a midi controller with a toe switch, though I don't use the toe switch. It works great for my needs: http://simart.googlepages.com/StealthPedal.html On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:20 PM, George Ludwig wrote: > The Line 6 FBV Express mkII is a pretty neat compact MIDI controller that > has an expression pedal with toe switch: > http://line6.com/footcontrollers/fbvexpressmkii.html > > It was designed to work with their amps, but is also a bus-powered generic > USB interface. > > Gorry for the late reply...catching up on old messages... > > -George > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: >> >> I've wanted an expression pedal with a toe switch though it didn't need to >> be MIDI. This would have been for controlling feedback + hold on the >> DL8000R. This isn't that, but the toe switch is the one thing I could see >> that would be different about a wah pedal as a MIDI controller relative to >> an expression pedal. >> >> Mark >> >> On Sep 26, 2009, at 11:46 AM, andy butler wrote: >> >>> I think it's just that it's midi controllable. >>> >>> I can imagine it might be nice to have an analog wah which >>> could also be a midi controller, ...but I don't >>> that's what we have here. >>> >>> Buzap Buzap wrote: >>>> >>>> Don't really get it - what's the point? >>>> I either have a "real" wah pedal or I have a midi pedal (expression >>>> pedal) controlling some software fx. >>>> best regards >>>> Buzap >>> >>> >> > > > > -- > -George > > http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 00:05:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0E053BE87; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KecOo+gnMdqxx0TH1Uz/LqClcwVjhCHcn6EXPXpAmao=; b=D6hEdX+Phm8mJ7SkyyEluHepfEo8CvoR6svRSp/9f57btHANo1T46KatFMiCtl51dc xA014LrZKBRx7iTjIQu/e0pwvNa1138T9cs82yFBfgeJ5KZ6M0d+G/7bH9guI/awHshn lcYALe4jSl6ruAW1elMi3LZm6FGHVBNfmYVQo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VFVJxwDqQ6gu8OEL3AV36izWt1KRjuxSo8QBBruGFErwAsIze497kkbl7BtZmaoqx0 mobJK1QGGob5l7hvaHbl4jlH7Vyn/BfCv9++Cv/peuk6YpBZDy+65Ic3/CBGZ2Sdl3XP Yy1T+Br7vKFDEutewEPrFEdvWg7agTAvFNcJU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911021511x7c587fd9qa64919e485d428ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <370478B6-A0D2-4D93-80F2-A239DD973F27@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911021344w78c9142ck395f3d699eea8d93@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911021423i1e2537adlcfb59a3e6e0a4737@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00911021454x1a6a1998s6bdea762ed8d8f77@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911021511x7c587fd9qa64919e485d428ca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:05:49 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0911021605maedfa27q98fdc48ac36cc54@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Adrenalinn as a plug-in From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4a1M4C.A.jJE.fP37KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:05:51 +0000 (UTC) You lucky mac guys, I'm jealous! On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Good to see it is on the front page! Maybe they didn't think they need > to have a link to the product presentation page because it can be > reached by clicking the front page picture? I too downloaded the two > weeks demo installer and it was this installer that that told me > Pluggo 3.6.1 is need for the AdrenaLinn Sync. This may not a problem > for me today, being a Pluggo owner, but the fact that Pluggo is a > discontinued product makes AdrenaLinn Sync come out as a no very > future proof investment for users. > > I will definitely keep monitoring the page in case some clarification > on this is to be published. This is indeed an exciting product! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: >> No, its on the front page of the site. >> >> http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/ >> >> Give them a call or drop them a line, they're great people and will >> surely tell you what the deal is. =A0I started to download and got to an >> actual package download so there's something there to be had. >> >> Kevin >> >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: >>> Well thats bullshit. >> >>>> >>>> >>>> Please excuse my too quick reply! The AdreanaLinn Sync Installer, for >>>> the demo, says that untime 3.6.1 or Pluggo 3.6.1 is needed. But Pluggo >>>> is a discontinued product of Cycling74. And the product page >>>> http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.shtml >>>> is not listed in the sites navigation control, meaning it is not meant >>>> to go public? >>>> >>>> This reminds me about that Repeater software from Electrixpro! Some >>>> things just are too good to be true ;-)) >>>> >>>> Per >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all troubl= e. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org >> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >> >> > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 00:06:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B92E3BE86; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257206770; bh=rwJS/W6z7yMvU+CimQ/mXAnP13XaneD1smvId7v7z/4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=eKP18zpTAI8uAvYvw4CC+/cdOd6IIVN4avp5BOV16noieEgXxNVSE88gVv5/jIrA/Euoy4mJXW0jQWebDypLEE/J3vppQzYY4OwMosRh5TQLSR+3a6CXIEC0JKxLLRMsRxXlzIUSuVStiiShlW4nQGPxDmebWasKnVBlTMUyGHc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sKCdgNkH5PRrcm9P3kQrXxyuDC4lKPUxe/+hlsgIaDc9fTZhkiqBSn6Jb+9NnV1Z0vn1Kguwla32L2xJDGO0gD4QxMUk1QUC5pN/dlLEHEzE6b5lXRaS/6aHI8owmYWhuuCTgqi1kpVLohiSL8omwt4qYYs2OGnk/I7l3NOSSxE=; Message-ID: <52637.73094.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0hSzuKwVM1mWMgTDrN1j08kBFstsbpVnVKE959SsEnoRulII2a8t8nBxVyhSZfDDW2roFsHMHyOSg3SekF.9xaL0YW_B2MamQiuBN1h_nmTcfaApsD..GWybIfxE5e1eYz2HdVz5qnZKfk1mh8tcPvWAyoJFIxLavTMIoXCMWvszo4UzF8y8jelJ2sSmSdYhfvM8rPVMpvbuwjDGjXZKQ0PvgaOqm56Dp9z926iymFICFTK1Zf9JMEKxqJbL1D.m5EslNQpio58UgtbOY0NSrigtRPnOEZLVMceRYdE91.8N8TPJLvpej.frVgyxcWzVPJ6gswg- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:06:09 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Adrenalinn as a plug-in To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911021344w78c9142ck395f3d699eea8d93@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:06:11 +0000 (UTC) i have the hardware version and though not as flexible love it very mucho!= =0Acheers=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Per Boysen schrieb am Mo, 2.11.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Per Boysen =0A> Betreff: Re: Adrenalinn as a plug-in=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Montag, 2. November 2009, 13:44=0A> On Mon, No= v 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Chris=0A> Sewell =0A> wrote:=0A> = > Nice.=0A> >=0A> > http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.php/lang/en/id/53= 84/AdrenaLinn-Sync=0A> =0A> =0A> Maaahgaaaawd... what a sweet must-have!!!!= =0A> I suspect no other piece of gear offers =0A> =0A> Musical Scale Const= raints -- Snap the LFO or Sequencer=0A> modulation signals chromatic, major= , minor, pentatonic,=0A> blues, whole tone, diminished or seven other music= al scales.=0A> =0A> =0A> Per=0A> =0A=0A=0A From info@btl.co.uk Tue Nov 3 00:23:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1765 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:22:58 UTC Received: from mail.cmsh.cyc.edu.tw (mail.cmsh.cyc.edu.tw [163.27.21.3]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8703E3BE78; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cmsh.cyc.edu.tw (Postfix) with ESMTP id C636283BBF; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:53:42 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.cmsh.cyc.edu.tw Received: from mail.cmsh.cyc.edu.tw ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cmsh.cyc.edu.tw [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wo6eLrpwPexr; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:53:39 +0800 (CST) Received: from mail.cmsh.cyc.edu.tw (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cmsh.cyc.edu.tw (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1318C84274; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:53:39 +0800 (CST) From: "British Telecom Plc" Reply-To: ukbtelecomplc@onfruit.cn Subject: Lucky*****Winner Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:53:39 +0800 Message-Id: <20091102235339.M6608@btl.co.uk> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 65.120.56.2 (wcs0716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Your email address has been awarded 1,000,000,00 Pounds in our British Telecom promo.send your Names,Sex,Country,Tell,occupation. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 00:27:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15CF73BE81; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Daryl Shawn'" , References: <1f0784c0911021144g453f740o2682f7bd8ca4ec9f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:27:17 -0800 Message-ID: <9C069B87213C466C8489784D41544104@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA5BD9.5B8CB7A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpcEkN3wYvFPN2USeuLyNvy/Ug3FQACTqVQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <1f0784c0911021144g453f740o2682f7bd8ca4ec9f@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:27:22 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA5BD9.5B8CB7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sounds like Robotics to me..Hmmmmmmnnn, I'm getting this picture of a wild eyed Pat Metheny, his Big Hair even bigger and crazier, leading a huge army of instrument playing robots, all playing absolutely perfectly, as Pat throws back his head, cackles maniacally and starts wailing on his Picasso guitar which as a few extra android hands adding other parts on the various necks and drone strings. Perfect he laughs, Perrrrfect hahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bill _____ From: Daryl Shawn [mailto:highhorse@mhorse.com] Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:44 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" Aargh...SO sorry. I got unsubbed, then signed up and tried to post. After each of the first two messages, I got emails saying they'd been rejected, but I guess they went through anyway. Then I forgot the damn link after all. Bad LD member! (smacking self on head w/copy of "It's Gonna Rain"...) Here's the linky-link: http://www.patmetheny.com/orchestrioninfo/ Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com hmm... 3 identical posts, but no link. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA5BD9.5B8CB7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sounds like Robotics to = me….Hmmmmmmnnn,  I’m getting this picture of a wild eyed Pat Metheny, his Big = Hair even bigger and crazier,  leading a huge army of instrument playing = robots, all playing absolutely perfectly, as Pat throws back his head,  cackles = maniacally and starts wailing on his  Picasso guitar which as a few extra = android hands adding  other parts on the various necks and drone strings. Perfect = he laughs,  Perrrrfect hahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bill

 

From: Daryl = Shawn [mailto:highhorse@mhorse.com]
Sent: Monday, November = 02, 2009 11:44 AM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Pat = Metheny's "Ochestrion"

 

Aargh...SO = sorry. I got unsubbed, then signed up and tried to post. After each of the first two messages, I got emails saying they'd been rejected, but I guess they = went through anyway. Then I forgot the damn link after all. Bad LD member! = (smacking self on head w/copy of "It's Gonna Rain"...)

Here's the linky-link:

http://www.patmetheny= .com/orchestrioninfo/

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com=

 

hmm... 3 identical posts, but no = link.

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA5BD9.5B8CB7A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 00:48:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CF823BE85; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Chris Sewell Subject: Apogee Duet Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:48:35 -0500 Message-id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Evening, Does anybody have experience in comparing the sound of Apogees Duet to other interfaces. I'm being seduced by its size and simplicity. I have an Original Motu Ultralite that sounds good and is very reliable. And small. I am just curious as to the claims of sonic superiority that Apogee makes. Thanks Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 01:12:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6CAD3BE84; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257210759; bh=1B8QedGt1SHs5Fqz6KhGbXAWzzerXvVkBczMAtN1SUs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Orceu3Mui7OrmjW4M4r/qfvL7bt1q7bRh8RfpLN0ppgfqblBUjwHSc6Og+8YBxfYoY178Exd7J2ABLhGNeq3Av71I13+Ify0NcSQ4oPYVMfSOg0t6pT4Jl6dQdmAGGjj+1u5flXIwpgpN9/4LxH8+FsTiY2WgDePe+3cwrvzgxU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ek3ERORThxV7AGmI1SDmu86OSuT1it1ujv6W99Eki9d97VC/0kHR/Z7QBo6eeFkuAW9gYVM5FIpw38IcRvLn/tePr+4SjFrYhUC/vfjyW0lT7rgNwXiRClqJtbFce7xACbrSBFK2rTvt5SWviUmUTpu4Lrgn/xuC4ldskEHCX/Q=; Message-ID: <668515.53692.qm@web32706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aYjPCy4VM1kc8EL6weDwBpxDTJA19kXg7Fni02YGNq9FCehsiJqQbYOp9eojBLOssX4Wmnx9gWv7ftGO6V2MXQoM4LBAUfrawE22DbAeHCD.LYm5_5ZlmA9O.aBdGMz3XZrDy6bdGpYnXmMdz3NL1DkfTKTFHUa2WrwhBJDJ64JCEe4ePyB2pVJYe2XSwLQytVjs4gi4HNOgZO7ngdXFBT9wHraOobOSm4g96Bal3CZTC3Q10N3hTEP2_JSILuxdtO2r52muFaj5Vrp_myt_JwPPE0deCS8fm_VYXutC4ugCfaK0gdVgjfzNy802XBRLE5AcxGnWHO5NRdWpNAVtipiWccXk3k.5WLTYtQcuKeOV0Nk6eJ5IhXdIpgPjLjdDUCPjvlrEd3O817B75eBVHtrc0ujzhM8_UCwjieSJoYBSUrkjHkrESppxhOgaNp5FmoRI X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:12:39 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: Pat Metheny's Orchestrion To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, If you go to "The House on the Rock", north of Dodgeville WI, you can see a half dozen HUGE Orchestrions. Rig From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 02:22:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B4763BE80; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=HXdlIxlxakBPc2HKXZiraUAdJpSog0ifQDb7ifHs/Jk=; b=cdxoDT7kYdBCdlqEjdCtEXoFCHTmB7BYPoOEqtD1s1v3AY06QOqC+qXKHglNwV+d8x ab67orP8OeThGmHg80KJz8x4YF1F79tMdFX1TQr168DkK4fUVoo15M5ItbAeD1dOETvT FCOTCi3kJSAUHDmDk4bZPSaJhEbHBdm5zal20= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=hq7iWaVrmYToEF4Oj1ZsP9G8IYqnWCH/OpzWWucl5QusgHXeAO/rwSCo1XS8nhGgMO 27BlPUkmQd9S6iPCY/9xXte/7xi4qM7exS2k0F/5vcXRLvHVduJH9BcFNkssEWcgIpXW LsCtiViQARA2+ttKePOl+MYtE63gLb84qgpvw= Message-Id: <2B6007FD-2A3F-47CB-9B66-BADAC280717D@gmail.com> From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Apogee Duet Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:20 -0500 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: <9zo_iB.A.82C.fP57KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:22:23 +0000 (UTC) I briefly got to try a duet against my ultralite and I thought the sound quality was indeed much better! Although I couldn't achieve the same low latency as I could with my motu ultralite in Ableton Live. This was awhile back on a different mac so they might have updated the drivers since then ......and it's funny you ask this question because I will be experimenting again this weekend with a Duet with my macbook. I will let you know if I get better performance. It's definitely a great deal to use for recording just not sure if I would want to use it for live performance. Todd Matthews On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Evening, > Does anybody have experience in comparing the sound of Apogees Duet > to other interfaces. > I'm being seduced by its size and simplicity. I have an Original > Motu Ultralite that sounds good and is very reliable. And small. I > am just curious as to the claims of sonic superiority that Apogee > makes. > > Thanks > Chris > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 02:22:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EE773BE85; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "Tim Thompson" To: References: <4AEF1B24.5040305@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4AEF1B24.5040305@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: RE: MIDI Looping Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:22:32 -0800 Message-ID: <008c01ca5c2c$81e55fd0$85b01f70$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acpb5IQTs1q2Hr3CTDi1SMIzGKgp5QARGVfw Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: <4CcseC.A.A7C.wP57KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:22:41 +0000 (UTC) >> * button for MIDI-channel, tempo, loop length, bar length (for=20 >> predefining loops if wanted), quantize > If it can do a non-pre-defined loop length that will be=20 > something significantly new. Herb Heinz and I demonstrated a MIDI looper called Hoops at Y2K5 that = didn't use pre-defined loop lengths, see http://nosuch.com/tjt/hoops . = It was a technology demonstration and hacker's toy, though, not a = product.=20 ...Tim... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 02:42:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73F623BE85; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=PPruK8N2Tu2KNwUZv5XfWUkAAl8supn4Q6eg0XigsYFg4xko6FS3E4CvBEIxj70z; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <26097858.1257216151962.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:42:31 -0500 (EST) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48a07df0e0a0dab2127428228b303e6e981e3821db987f1b31350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.48 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:42:32 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoJDQEPPd1jU -----Original Message----- From: William Walker=20 Sent: Nov 2, 2009 7:27 PM To: 'Daryl Shawn' , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" Sounds like Robotics to me=E2=80=A6.Hmmmmmmnnn, I=E2=80=99m getting this picture of a wild eyed Pat Metheny, his Big Hair = even bigger and crazier, leading a huge army of instrument playing robots, all playing absolutely perfectly, as Pat throws back his head, cackles maniaca= lly and starts wailing on his Picasso guitar which as a few extra android hand= s adding other parts on the various necks and drone strings. Perfect he laug= hs, Perrrrfect hahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=20 Bill =20 =20 =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 02:44:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21FE03BE7F; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "Tim Thompson" To: References: <4AEF1B24.5040305@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4AEF1B24.5040305@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: RE: MIDI Looping Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:44:39 -0800 Message-ID: <008d01ca5c2f$983ec7f0$c8bc57d0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acpb5IQTs1q2Hr3CTDi1SMIzGKgp5QASmwKg Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: <4or3N.A.bUE.dk57KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 02:44:46 +0000 (UTC) I gave a talk about my Monolith 2.0 installation (a 2-person MIDI = looper) last week and created some slides to describe the geeky details: http://nosuch.com/tjt/bm/monolith_2_at_lovetechsf.pdf This MIDI looper (unlike Hoops) uses pre-defined/selectable loop = lengths. ...Tim... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 09:27:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 154123BE80; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Message-ID: <4AEFF78D.9010208@mnet-online.de> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:27:41 +0100 From: Florian Anwander User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060414 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI Looping References: <8AE901B2-8C05-4331-BA69-F907BBAC9E8E@grubmah.com> <66f9cc1e0911020237t6a35965eod91ea5190d45dceb@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEC1C6.3050802@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020345i3548b453jb23c6d72663f20f7@mail.gmail.com> <4AEECB7B.5010809@mnet-online.de> <66f9cc1e0911020703k3dc6d9a8waaf4af8fb83077@mail.gmail.com> <4AEEFC17.1010505@mnet-online.de> <4AEF1B24.5040305@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4AEF1B24.5040305@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Hi Andy > If it can do a non-pre-defined loop length that will be something > significantly new. Not really. In Emagic/Apple Logic the part you are recording does not have to have a defined loop length and you can set it to loopmode immediately. But for any hardware solution it would be new indeed. Our (partial) model was the Roland CSQ-100/600 sequencers (but those miss the quantizing). Especially the CSQ600 has this synced recording start, which knows about the ryhtmic structure, but is not bound to a dedicated loop length. Means: It knows where the first beat of pattern is, and starts recording there, but you can stop the recording (=make the loop) at any time. Florian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 10:18:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9FA63BE80; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:18:02 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <2B6007FD-2A3F-47CB-9B66-BADAC280717D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091103101802.22830@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2B6007FD-2A3F-47CB-9B66-BADAC280717D@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Apogee Duet To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18eFDUtgZ4eiD1dld/y4d9AeLvfTJtGhzjNBT+PFg zLkuGWuL0P1+CfA6J3o3aDCu6OUIoL2qKbhg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: FXaRLoJpa0A7Sch0jjAz8FA/Njh6dA5+ X-FuHaFi: 0.6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Hi Chris my impression is that Apogee Duet is supreme for recording (if you're ok with Mac-only and break-out cable concept), but for live looping performance, I'd probably prefer the Motu Ultralite. See this for details: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/low-end-theory/334049-new-motu-ultralite-mk3-vs-apogee-duet.html Duet: +Sound quality (in and out) +Elegant, simple design +The Apogee brand -Only 2in/2out -Closed system (can't upgrade at later stage) Ultralite MK3: +/-Sound quality +Comprehensive routing options +Expandable -Paying for DSP effects I probably won't use -Possibly complex to set up and operate (Cuemix vs Maestro) best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 10:37:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF9613BE81; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nJ/vWqpJx4Akum2AuA5lGXf3pVqaGvFXvQf41sapnwE=; b=IAyTAilCbQMaNgbXIht5DdlFR8h77dzzSD5zxmR0ekDjUKQ5CvEc+E/ICYDV0UxL+n dYucmU38tU+kyAMKv9tZaPUpWSPlNotQVKxDh1W5JEuN6uCunFSbI1XX3mKWbZ/1tEYG 9nDX4ZVm0Le9tGilUFH/zNVS4EV4JM8WOWCms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=v/u0nNWPWpADbjbVsPDdw7q7V7Ew136umvo5NGjyvAMI2zJhC8WfdwOZFv6DHDaZKh Up1PI/Lgg6N7KT5ZT7BGgqtlYR/hKN3dxXQ1fS1RtTCjW1Nggc67xtIThShlEFhRJ9jC 7CjCtrzGLyr9wYVKrADfVnYb9IjFztAJnszaw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:37:26 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911030237y21da2c6bxc0474f355db3335a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Apogee Duet From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:37:28 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Apogees Duet I recently used an Apogee Duet on a "producer seminar" tour and found it perfect for the situation where you talk and and play around laptop audio. It was Apple that put me there with that audio interface but I couldn't have chosen a better one myself for this situation. The big master volume knob on the top is great for grabbing on the fly and adapt the playback level as you go. I imagine it would be great for mixing too, if using the technique to move between alternative acoustic playback levels in order to keep your listening fresh as long as possible. I did not record through it though. One thing I would have wished the Duet to have is an extra power feed. This is a good thing to have when playing concerts with a firewire audio interface. I have noticed with my own FW boxes, and heard from other musicians, that the firewire cable can easily lose connection if the computer is moved on the table or if the firewire cable happens to hang down getting poked by mistake as you reach for a plectrum or something. If the full power feed to the interface goesthrough this firewire cable such a short break will cause the system to swap over to the computer's built-in audio interface; PA audio silenced. If using an extra power feed besides the firewire cable the effect will not be that drastic. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 11:10:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F4153BE7E; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:10:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JT7kBtUQgn9jn/3HcfWUb7g5J4VoFEbQQGHAyvTY45I=; b=QVGJTNJZNmQnNeXbPpplb5wqDQczYbVkubTLbdF5gGlVFtgv0wQq+U0t/7n1g444xM GdPMOjh3zxweicX0qi1l1T39M4kBn+ct6is7vdjSD2nWYCNDgsSYLNUNiSx/rSeIJfgw lCZ0s61SKUQZ0vDv8154WctSRHxXZ0yQhGZQA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=D6ZQA1+aHjH1Y2+brClt5xT1RrGJ0YYGW+zWiAoHf8ZiYLg6+v+QlA4h6kMBUb1WLA hp9huULIK5UQu0RfzrWKtgGpMQILtn32xkI9k0V73kaZKf6dcnaigFL2If3cJcHKfw/2 XuMSeBq6HEQxn5kkQz+IGC975BHx6nidwLB2g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9C069B87213C466C8489784D41544104@williamsteed> References: <1f0784c0911021144g453f740o2682f7bd8ca4ec9f@mail.gmail.com> <9C069B87213C466C8489784D41544104@williamsteed> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:10:39 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911030310l90e862ak5c63a2bdc42ebc3f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd762ae58c5d40477758b0d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:10:40 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd762ae58c5d40477758b0d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Today finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! From Pat's description it sounds pretty close to what people on this list are doing: a new performance method to present music alone onstage using acoustic and > acoustoelectric musical instruments that are mechanically controlled using > the power of modern technology. > Can't wait to hear and see what it really is about! :-) I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --000e0cd762ae58c5d40477758b0d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Today finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! From Pat's = description it sounds pretty close to what people on this list are doing: <= br>
a new performance method to present music alone onstage using acoustic and = acoustoelectric musical instruments that are mechanically controlled using = the power of modern technology.

Can't wait to hear = and see what it really is about! :-)
I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible?
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen= .com
--000e0cd762ae58c5d40477758b0d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 11:36:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D2223BE81; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=up2BR4I0zxgXxM4bk/6uUJTZRYWM84Xf9cGWnSPMkXI=; b=lMPNp9kYm1Oeu1xXWPmrbIANMJ6KgMmkvj/5RJgFEVwTnvcfYUgPn7Mx81zK7Yw8fx D9zJ1PyQgxCWzCApojFJmsYO7ViWMWJ8fgbgzUBKmhTpynRXpEQbPAiUuvdOIPd9nilI S9d6aTlopXI70w/tr+v057+mvCOZwQ6b8eVLY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=M6MPi1QdXJ8E1rUlCF1u469nZGtBE3/NQ4OP++XJRiRyG9CdIrdDLhNWMy6CCLp0p5 3A87nEGRXeYERkpKWMdv4M210+6MxGDWLtUcjHwhdnluvzcunAW6KWmYyazK0mRmAj8/ tbQOICf9vAfsBFwOVmn+Cki4Pl73tAPYaINRU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20091103101802.22830@gmx.net> References: <2B6007FD-2A3F-47CB-9B66-BADAC280717D@gmail.com> <20091103101802.22830@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:35:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Apogee Duet From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Hi Chris, I use an Ultralite mk3. I've not tested the Duet myself but according to internet forums and reviews the Duet offers the best sound quality in this price range. But to be honest, I think you can't really compare the Duet and Ultralite, the specs differ a lot so they are simply different beasts ;-) My recommendation: if you need top quality pre-amps for vocals and acoustic guitar and nothing else, I think the Duet might be a better choice. If you are looking for an allround multi-track interface for both live and studio usage, go for the Ultralite. An additional plus for the Ultralite is that it has multiple balanced output's. This means it's easy to setup 2 main mixes, one for your own monitor (usuallly unbalanced) and one for FOH (balanced). No DI's needed. -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 11:44:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 570343BE8E; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kCrFH9/P6UnK+BJTrpO0zNV6u6+T1HdIAxr2cmzjLYo=; b=BkQDjkvDKqOJupg43k7oelc4Rz+ch2zDYHq3Ege/7QFHzup68g0StmsfzGMJ3jG0QD im26GNP4/PIJn5UNnZMlYLDFJk+ai98BKehysxaoOPE+AfjKdJs9EeWTKboG5uocH1CB jNLVFHnZZtUWsNNINhkXq8KInkH16Wj2nmWVE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tnqibDXhCNHNvsKyKcQRXY5XTxICAy4OeLZ/oUgfzoFnZCX0+vRb9W//tZMv1i53KN 9J6ep75HDjlpyBgzFwSLL5xusAlt2DYbJjDeNT3pYOatMG4hfXnk66rx2yDKXkP30O4O bBfpGEyTApSRUu8baAMj54+OzDs6N4GLtRDGI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37f071c00911021454x1a6a1998s6bdea762ed8d8f77@mail.gmail.com> References: <370478B6-A0D2-4D93-80F2-A239DD973F27@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0911021344w78c9142ck395f3d699eea8d93@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911021423i1e2537adlcfb59a3e6e0a4737@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00911021454x1a6a1998s6bdea762ed8d8f77@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:44:23 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911030344s4312e80q2ed8025ee8146513@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Adrenalinn as a plug-in From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5c74efa57f1047776034a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:44:24 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd5c74efa57f1047776034a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/ Did a second download today, but the installer still lacks the plug-in files. What gets installed is a the PDF manual and a zip archive containing the license manager applications. To get the 14 days demo license I guess you would need to also download the actual plug-in files, which do not seem to have been posted yet. Reading the PDF manual got me very interested and I hope Linn will wrap up this release soon. Even though the needed Pluggo and Runtime are discontinued by Cycling74, in favor of Max For Live, they are fully Intel Mac compatible and I have not seen any warning that Pluggo and Runtime should not work with Snow Leopard. If that is correct one could say we will be able to use the AdrenaLinn Sync software long enough to justify buying it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --000e0cd5c74efa57f1047776034a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.ro= gerlinndesign.com/

Did a second download today, but the installe= r still lacks the plug-in files. What gets installed is a the PDF manual an= d a zip archive containing the license manager applications. To get the 14 = days demo license I guess you would need to also download the actual plug-i= n files, which do not seem to have been posted yet. Reading the PDF manual = got me very interested and I hope Linn will wrap up this release soon. Even= though the needed Pluggo and Runtime are discontinued by Cycling74, in fav= or of Max For Live, they are fully Intel Mac compatible and I have not seen= any warning that Pluggo and Runtime should not work with Snow Leopard. If = that is correct one could say we will be able to use the AdrenaLinn Sync so= ftware long enough to justify buying it.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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--000e0cd5c74efa57f1047776034a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 12:52:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A33A3BE79; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=EpXH1oc4FZ3mTrKqFov+caHPe0tv1jttaFZ+5gtOEt0=; b=kI5z6cug+nFGGU2KuYoUuBoAUGZ3PcUsi/M8JUm2Z2kQcjNtv34zy5MBP5K+O6FUH7 ijh+otdUhGSadm6ZnhIHf1zmP84+jDuutPLcInBQ41UsfXBv2Tne48dSyAGJiGHTFkUO SBtTmkBorpLwSIOVHuw0nNaiaOf47ErJafZOE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=WhNpTi7CePaEAk+1tT6fC7eRcjOAABngloTQ8DYtdtpUa5lCXhUZRvvyGDkeh1v/A1 tuKwrKFhG7qtLI/caU19J9sVPj9XIscY0IccA8ZUOLvpfY0KKi+H9FL9OzAP79e1fS5n 2+DqCgE4Eu/aqobSDV/mZn7qvdSEHb5+PdMW4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:51:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: New version of Bidule From: Sjaak Overgaauw To: LD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Bidule has been upgraded, looks like it has some new features too. http://www.kvraudio.com/news/12858.html -- Sjaak Overgaauw http://premonitionfactory.com/ http://livelooping.be/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 13:52:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD4DE3BE81; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2i1S69ZL0mWLEKuJ3SCbiw5ou69NC4iTJ9ynz3OK+Ok=; b=rI+VcY6yGxwocdcUuHOC7l5PxFLALpPJk2Pp+Aj191GwY4aV1UnFXxqNAQrZUQWjWN ou7iCIeCsSNPNeKIOv1GXVEtX0UXuuWZnN4A8nrtQcvO9b/cedXikmBLH2WD4uAMLN7A 7uLlhMJgfFrafvPZ6sA2uUmivuGumun75oucA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XZ+Gp/YeSqB1b3DWPBNy58qy7wRfeDhZmKRJbpUXowtZMp3Po7Xfo77/SKQRzbHcae HMrnZ5F5sKy0rNPPOCzzzhhe+gxUU2VvFIF1H0bZvfkt6gcxnJqTM5JZ/XBH1rK31ddo nUoxbelJiSWULwVSGn/QaRTNBCTW2umWCFS6g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:52:24 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911030552q1a96ed1csfb2f2c6072e1e19e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New version of Bidule From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd609d6cde0dc047777cd75 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:52:29 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd609d6cde0dc047777cd75 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote: > Bidule has been upgraded, looks like it has some new features too. > > http://www.kvraudio.com/news/12858.html > Thanks for the hint! Downloading right now. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --000e0cd609d6cde0dc047777cd75 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:
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--000e0cd609d6cde0dc047777cd75-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 14:41:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAE843BE80; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:41:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_665c4b2d-5e12-4b6a-8b99-31d1b9bd0895_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: Live looping in Bristol anyone? Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:38:52 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0909271552q76a9066dt58d2ce4ca0e94a45@mail.gmail.com> <181166.41098.qm@web45913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2009 14:38:51.0813 (UTC) FILETIME=[5CAADD50:01CA5C93] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:41:27 +0000 (UTC) <001101ca3fec$9aac1100$a6852245@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 --_665c4b2d-5e12-4b6a-8b99-31d1b9bd0895_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Gareth =20 sorry Im late to tth party=2C=20 =20 yer if you have room for a looper form Hull Im in. =20 myonemanband.co.uk =20 ta =20 Phill =20 > 2009/9/28 Gareth Whittock : > > Hey guys=2C I'm thinking of organising a live looping gig in Bristiol= =2C > > England. Anyone interested? > > > > peace > > > > G > > > > ________________________________ > > View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place - Learn more! >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > os@collective.co.uk > http://twitter.com/expertsleepers > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ >=20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ New Windows 7: Simplify what you do everyday. Find the right PC for you. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/buy/= --_665c4b2d-5e12-4b6a-8b99-31d1b9bd0895_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Gareth
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Find the right PC for y= ou. = --_665c4b2d-5e12-4b6a-8b99-31d1b9bd0895_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 15:13:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FFF03BE7E; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Subject: Re: Apogee Duet From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:13:08 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <2B6007FD-2A3F-47CB-9B66-BADAC280717D@gmail.com> <20091103101802.22830@gmx.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Throwing another option into the mix, does anyone have experience with Mackie's Firewire interfaces? I'm looking to replace my M-Audio FireWire Audiophile because it doesn't respond well to being turned off and on since it only wants to establish a connection with the computer at startup. This is presumably a driver issue, but it really stinks since I don't want to reboot my computer to connect to my audio interface. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 15:42:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABE143BE80; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:42:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=Fgl+6QUWB4AnYDf6daEfX7PxXJNQQSL3evD5EHT+oGM=; b=c053DB+kG/jSdmlGpZOyW9w6X2dIMV/h9YEmjkvpL/e+2jUGM+3yxBnAhxA9Z/9HEM 7slMHMw7SML3/irIDR1Yj2eVvLo9QgCnd/nml8/vFu7RQ5V7akzGws+Q149718+55Rpb N8qhA8bklatviq15XzIdALfXZxyMy2ozpPDiE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=nkFLTQ7t6aDUznqhEkAov4JAVVWsul7XwWcFJKljR6ELtfWlXodd3yuA1cAf8Yn6QR 21trfgeRnbXoe1jSBAoEEdyjIphKCWZLaSzxKQbKbb//u5HtYsOVca6Yk3WAg84+8uha RDWLIwQKf79kVW9/0gmK4NpNeDxwuzOmypPtU= Message-Id: <14DE546D-87E3-4C52-BACB-5D2ED2BA7883@gmail.com> From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Apogee Duet Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:42:31 -0500 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:42:34 +0000 (UTC) I gotta run to work but I wanted to give you a quick update. I spent this morning A/B'in the Ultralite and Duet. I have a Mk I Ultralite just to put that out there. I 'm not sure if there are different components used in the Mk III. The Duet does sound much better mic pre wise and for live usage I've going into the Duet and setting the XLR to +4dBu. My preamp for my double bass blends a pickup and mic and this gets a really clean signal into the Duet. When you switch it to this setting you don't control the volume with the Duet you control it from the preamp I realized. It sound amazing and most of the time I spent playing within Ableton Live with a buffer setting of 256. Just dring the last 15 minutes I switched it 128 to get lower latency and I didn't get any pops or clicks but it's way too early to decide if that usable for a live setting or not. If I can at least get by with a 256 buffer setting this is going to be the perfect device for me so I can record a high quality demo with the pianist I play with and I can use it to play our shows. My new preamp/blender is the same size as the duet so it will be amazing if it all works out having a smaller footprint. I'll keep you updated as I keep plugging away. Todd Matthews On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Evening, > Does anybody have experience in comparing the sound of Apogees Duet > to other interfaces. > I'm being seduced by its size and simplicity. I have an Original > Motu Ultralite that sounds good and is very reliable. And small. I > am just curious as to the claims of sonic superiority that Apogee > makes. > > Thanks > Chris > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 16:32:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C6923BE80; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:32:05 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091103163205.176560@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2B6007FD-2A3F-47CB-9B66-BADAC280717D@gmail.com> <20091103101802.22830@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Apogee Duet To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX189cwlvaC49F/pyapunWUOtlz64kAIQGUHOt6t+x4 3NQ+juBDjlq1Sr6yTtqdivcDfiLC6+fgG9/g== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: Si6RLpEla0A7fsh0jjAztyA/Njh6dA7t X-FuHaFi: 0.64 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:32:07 +0000 (UTC) > Throwing another option into the mix, does anyone have experience with > Mackie's Firewire interfaces? Hi Mark I love my Mackie Onyx mixer and the FW interface is ok, quite happy with latency. However there are two major drawbacks for me: 1. An input signal at very high level results in very low signal strength in the computer DAW. Even with max. volume on FW interface, I get ca. 20% volume in computer when I have 100% volume input signal strength. 2. The output signal level coming from the computer is insanely high. You cannot balance control the signal level (computer vs. mixer). So, let's say I'm listening to a CD on my mixer, when my computer starts playing music via Firwire, it just blows off my ears. These are quite subjective impressions - esp. focused on Mackie Firwire along with Mackie Mixer - , so feel free to google reviews. best regards Buzap -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3.5 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser From poste@poste.it Tue Nov 3 17:53:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 736 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:53:43 UTC Received: from server.trinitycatholic.net (exchange.trinitycatholic.net [208.118.97.143]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F213BE72 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([213.41.247.150]) by server.trinitycatholic.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:40:51 -0700 From: "Poste.it" Subject: COMUNICAZIONE URGENTE PER I TITOLARI DI POSTE! 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Ti preghiamo di non inviare alcuna risposta a questo messaggio e-mail, poiche' non verra' presa in considerazione. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 18:02:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2343D3BE80; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References; b=0/jNoytCbiP2595unpmujxZftdxlBja65owjRABv1t9bND2GwdOwcYJaFbfCSNa5w2FsvcVa1ODuoiM5tSmJWt08WHXwRqwQGOktcw1cZDf0nIXyZaJhzo8LErPoHoSlaejr6kiSI9hpTXsgqdJK4eJiFy6Ser7AkpqUiVRBzIY= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: 8t_65bYVM1lLIeoxDW65MU_J4T0h0BDPrIlSkcLVRlbre1p3rwjBkj8F4MTBq5JowOEk5mCx9xzb6foFUzKQaE25bSXjhPnDAjzfyPXmbfWMA5wM5TlWDEWgF7dX8D2XZDsEF3G0x2GNcEMcekNXbtz_58QQfzE3xvDUdJkQ7mwenWn83VyPq6Xf3n2Uis8FZfX8CuTvoO8FRMrweK_7yFigwdJsutnEEfpEbKc.F6dvU3TvBSEwtK8ECVYLypu7lw4OUORS5KCBShC_4YUd8Fesq3Fuq47Fz3DK_VotgA26bSfKL9SF8P6wi3JcR_p8Q6eG55i15C6Fba4Z0RaU3fz0 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-Id: From: Ricky Graham To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911030310l90e862ak5c63a2bdc42ebc3f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--208734707 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7D11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7D11) Subject: Re: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:02:19 +0000 References: <1f0784c0911021144g453f740o2682f7bd8ca4ec9f@mail.gmail.com> <9C069B87213C466C8489784D41544104@williamsteed> <66f9cc1e0911030310l90e862ak5c63a2bdc42ebc3f@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:02:31 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--208734707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > acoustoelectric What was wrong with electro-acoustic? :) R Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Today finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! From > Pat's description it sounds pretty close to what people on this list > are doing: > > a new performance method to present music alone onstage using > acoustic and acoustoelectric musical instruments that are > mechanically controlled using the power of modern technology. > > Can't wait to hear and see what it really is about! :-) > I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com --Apple-Mail-1--208734707 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

perboysen@gmail.com> = wrote:

Today = finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! =46rom Pat's = description it sounds pretty close to what people on this list are = doing:

a new performance method to present music alone onstage using acoustic = and acoustoelectric musical instruments that are mechanically controlled = using the power of modern technology.

Can't wait to = hear and see what it really is about! :-)
I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also = possible?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
= --Apple-Mail-1--208734707-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 18:14:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF5BD3BE81; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:14:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Mv+bo++3zH9raMYTE88mNEaN3z/+2mdgeNns5sskGZ4=; b=ximHmvdaw2JIuyKaLYTukY8Xdmw6duXEugj/bQd5Ds0FwyUFVItUmhUDFr8L7RIar1 hRGER8UR2XOTl5cc44MY9JeICzuQfU1DPkInri1unvfzZ1pg36l3z3/8N2IThs2nmgFC d+ekMTglXi2Y5qgGCLKVsYnCxHBF7hCu3ivUs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KqXnmxXh7RSf2WqluNKvbHX8MbJ1vRxh4GR+aEZJrrAoWJJNJtKSbhGxnOFQrq39F+ kWnkc5T5varlUWUG8U2glfhee9LU0HbZAbT3C4eXpA1F6hCPONhDCNVIo/RAVTY3aTpE lVEf7HHuX0G8l/XNphs3BSXC0lYRbviyWessY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1f0784c0911021144g453f740o2682f7bd8ca4ec9f@mail.gmail.com> <9C069B87213C466C8489784D41544104@williamsteed> <66f9cc1e0911030310l90e862ak5c63a2bdc42ebc3f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:14:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d9677e7fe47904777b7800 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:14:54 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d9677e7fe47904777b7800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i guess electro-acoustic is more electro than acoustic :-) 2009/11/3 Ricky Graham > acoustoelectric > > > What was wrong with electro-acoustic? :) > > R > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > Today finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! From Pat's > description it sounds pretty close to what people on this list are doing: > > a new performance method to present music alone onstage using acoustic and >> acoustoelectric musical instruments that are mechanically controlled using >> the power of modern technology. >> > > Can't wait to hear and see what it really is about! :-) > I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d9677e7fe47904777b7800 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i guess electro-acoustic is more electro than acoustic :-)

2009/11/3 Ricky Graham <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com= >
acoustoelectric

What was wron= g with electro-acoustic? :)

R

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Today finally that page l= oaded. Quite interesting write-up! From Pat's description it sounds pre= tty close to what people on this list are doing:

a new performance method to present music alone onstage using acoustic and = acoustoelectric musical instruments that are mechanically controlled using = the power of modern technology.

Can't wait to hear = and see what it really is about! :-)
I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible?
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



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--0016e6d9677e7fe47904777b7800-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 18:18:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E0023BE77; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nCdj2H5NWOVcIfu8CL/vY0Sc7mm5Tc6XLkb4CqkqJN0=; b=pKkW1bJRaudzyBV6aCXy+4qVsPFNpaMy4jw6gnrEeWV1rofo5YUip3yYMaWWg9XQTl 1OXR2Xlx17tli1+1EIFcUzsZtpi9575yu+1o6JDmwqeEtgHtqXBtHm8jyJ7RjACkGviP hReYl0xeRhXlR69dJ+VhCoRs3DaSYuiEgryqs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BThwItHekac8CqRN9iz5wWQBC6kyqBlVteuHOLueJi8tnY/LR0B92Gp2z5ADlF8DwE FFXKDGF2BmTQIYe4ARgsb7wTKWOthQMlJx6BjcNHsEErX3rtG4TdRNU/ySpEhOaj4Bp8 YbkSl+l1cXIIAS+z1iNbtf++9b79mKH74c5Gg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14DE546D-87E3-4C52-BACB-5D2ED2BA7883@gmail.com> References: <14DE546D-87E3-4C52-BACB-5D2ED2BA7883@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:18:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Apogee Duet From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d976fb1094da04777b84e2 Resent-Message-ID: <6k5S9.A.lpE.gPH8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:18:08 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d976fb1094da04777b84e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 which preamp is that todd? for micing live, i use a Ted Fletcher P4, small, stereo, with compressor and limiter. 2009/11/3 Todd Matthews > I gotta run to work but I wanted to give you a quick update. I spent this > morning A/B'in the Ultralite and Duet. I have a Mk I Ultralite just to put > that out there. I 'm not sure if there are different components used in the > Mk III. > > The Duet does sound much better mic pre wise and for live usage I've going > into the Duet and setting the XLR to +4dBu. My preamp for my double bass > blends a pickup and mic and this gets a really clean signal into the Duet. > When you switch it to this setting you don't control the volume with the > Duet you control it from the preamp I realized. It sound amazing and most of > the time I spent playing within Ableton Live with a buffer setting of 256. > Just dring the last 15 minutes I switched it 128 to get lower latency and I > didn't get any pops or clicks but it's way too early to decide if that > usable for a live setting or not. If I can at least get by with a 256 buffer > setting this is going to be the perfect device for me so I can record a high > quality demo with the pianist I play with and I can use it to play our > shows. My new preamp/blender is the same size as the duet so it will be > amazing if it all works out having a smaller footprint. I'll keep you > updated as I keep plugging away. > > > > Todd Matthews > On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > > Evening, >> Does anybody have experience in comparing the sound of Apogees Duet to >> other interfaces. >> I'm being seduced by its size and simplicity. I have an Original Motu >> Ultralite that sounds good and is very reliable. And small. I am just >> curious as to the claims of sonic superiority that Apogee makes. >> >> Thanks >> Chris >> >> > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0016e6d976fb1094da04777b84e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable which preamp is that todd? for micing live, i use a Ted Fletcher P4, small,= stereo, with compressor and limiter.

200= 9/11/3 Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
I gotta run to wo= rk but I wanted to give you a quick update. I spent this morning A/B'in= the Ultralite and Duet. I have a Mk I Ultralite just to put that out there= . I 'm not sure if there are different components used in the Mk III.
The Duet does sound much better mic pre wise and for live usage I've go= ing into the Duet and setting the XLR to +4dBu. My preamp for my double bas= s blends a pickup and mic and this gets a really clean signal into the Duet= . When you switch it to this setting you don't control the volume with = the Duet you control it from the preamp I realized. It sound amazing and mo= st of the time I spent playing within Ableton Live with a buffer setting of= 256. Just dring the last 15 minutes I switched it 128 to get lower latency= and I didn't get any pops or clicks but it's way too early to deci= de if that usable for a live setting or not. If I can at least get by with = a 256 buffer setting this is going to be the perfect device for me so I can= record a high quality demo with the pianist I play with and I can use it t= o play our shows. My new preamp/blender is the same size as the duet so it = will be amazing if it all works out having a smaller footprint. I'll ke= ep you updated as I keep plugging away.



Todd Matthews
On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Chris Sewell wrote:

Evening,
Does anybody have experience in comparing the sound of Apogees Duet to othe= r interfaces.
I'm being seduced by its size and simplicity. I have an Original Motu U= ltralite that sounds good and is very reliable. And small. I am just curiou= s as to the claims of sonic superiority that Apogee =A0 makes.

Thanks
Chris





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--0016e6d976fb1094da04777b84e2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 18:22:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3A393BE80; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed In-reply-to: <14DE546D-87E3-4C52-BACB-5D2ED2BA7883@gmail.com> References: <14DE546D-87E3-4C52-BACB-5D2ED2BA7883@gmail.com> Message-id: <23D5DFF9-6B68-4895-9090-9F49277B0873@mac.com> From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Apogee Duet Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:21:58 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <8XOV4C.A.yCF.QTH8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Thanks so much Todd. On Nov 3, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I gotta run to work but I wanted to give you a quick update. I > spent this morning A/B'in the Ultralite and Duet. I have a Mk I > Ultralite just to put that out there. I 'm not sure if there are > different components used in the Mk III. > > The Duet does sound much better mic pre wise and for live usage > I've going into the Duet and setting the XLR to +4dBu. My preamp > for my double bass blends a pickup and mic and this gets a really > clean signal into the Duet. When you switch it to this setting you > don't control the volume with the Duet you control it from the > preamp I realized. It sound amazing and most of the time I spent > playing within Ableton Live with a buffer setting of 256. Just > dring the last 15 minutes I switched it 128 to get lower latency > and I didn't get any pops or clicks but it's way too early to > decide if that usable for a live setting or not. If I can at least > get by with a 256 buffer setting this is going to be the perfect > device for me so I can record a high quality demo with the pianist > I play with and I can use it to play our shows. My new preamp/ > blender is the same size as the duet so it will be amazing if it > all works out having a smaller footprint. I'll keep you updated as > I keep plugging away. > > > Todd Matthews > On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > >> Evening, >> Does anybody have experience in comparing the sound of Apogees >> Duet to other interfaces. >> I'm being seduced by its size and simplicity. I have an Original >> Motu Ultralite that sounds good and is very reliable. And small. I >> am just curious as to the claims of sonic superiority that >> Apogee makes. >> >> Thanks >> Chris >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Nov 3 18:23:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3B4A3BE81; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer; b=T7iyDj89QAT5NXFv9Najm9Akb8xLOs1EH0D8ZxEopOPn6CsLwO0DgE2w5aaOOUl0K5bCJcXzp1PTTBkYx6pTJbHOxld/z2z4GYpD33N+/SrMWdCIlYww7gJoNtn3C+kOoQ1qUpoDUjrtvt6JYc1KKtHMlw+ihVA2Vo7Y594jrlo= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: 08YJS1kVM1lI4AAclEzaaJFXBcp3Pn53D0SuvKmHFITcLYDix9rHgL0Fm7Sy7jWfqgObWfJ68nrATCteOMFVfnTLT8sZ4NfSiJWWiKfNt5sMfLXZdrSMgVgk.WgEiSnm_Bj_IZa4GcyM5OB4dUzIW1Hz54lRKuvWYdzKAalcvas01iSLe2_0F75dEeoMXuPJM8iZMsgdj5MSfxbiOkGO7n07TjM364jm..c1lXtE4y8QjkuC0oprZVyw_RCHpYuXrY14t_m_ArUIzfI65QLf.UWjO55IOcw10HmEaZCp_Z18ciXzRrP_YkpfaPqUl7DMSSxLAYxBIDXv72CsCr6bqf4XDKg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-Id: <41F4A181-5CAA-45ED-9457-B932692E83E2@btinternet.com> From: Ricky Graham To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--207563833 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7D11) Subject: Re: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion" Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:21:11 +0000 References: <1f0784c0911021144g453f740o2682f7bd8ca4ec9f@mail.gmail.com> <9C069B87213C466C8489784D41544104@williamsteed> <66f9cc1e0911030310l90e862ak5c63a2bdc42ebc3f@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7D11) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:23:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--207563833 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Interesting, Raul. I'll bare that in mind. :) Thank you. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2009, at 6:14 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > i guess electro-acoustic is more electro than acoustic :-) > > 2009/11/3 Ricky Graham >> acoustoelectric > > What was wrong with electro-acoustic? :) > > R > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> Today finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! From >> Pat's description it sounds pretty close to what people on this >> list are doing: >> >> a new performance method to present music alone onstage using >> acoustic and acoustoelectric musical instruments that are >> mechanically controlled using the power of modern technology. >> >> Can't wait to hear and see what it really is about! :-) >> I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible? >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com > > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > --Apple-Mail-2--207563833 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Interesting, Raul. I'll bare that in mind. :) Thank you.  

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 3, 2009, at 6:14 PM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:

i guess electro-acoustic is more electro than acoustic :-)

2009/11/3 Ricky Graham <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com>
acoustoelectric

What was wrong with electro-acoustic? :)

R

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

Today finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! From Pat's description it sounds pretty close to what people on this list are doing:

a new performance method to present music alone onstage using acoustic and acoustoelectric musical instruments that are mechanically controlled using the power of modern technology.

Can't wait to hear and see what it really is about! :-)
I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



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So,i want to ask you to quietly look for a reliable and honest person who w= ill be capable and fit to provide either an existing bank account or to set= up a new Bank account immediately to receive this money,even an empty bank= account can serve to receive this money,as long as you will remain honest = to me till the end of this important business trusting in you and believing= in God that you will never let me down either now or in future. I am MR.ALHAJI IBRAHIM JEGA,the Auditor General of a bank in Burkina Faso, = during the course of our auditing,I discovered a floating fund in an accoun= t opened in the bank for years and nobody is operated on this account again= ,after going through some old files in the records I discovered that the ow= ner of the account died without a [heir] hence the money is floating and if= I do not remit this money out urgently it will be forfeited for nothing. The owner of this account is MR.HAJI EL JAMAL ZOUE,a foreigner,and an Indus= trialist, who died since 2003 and no other person knows about this account = or anything concerning it,the account has no other beneficiary. The amount involved is (USD11,300,000,000) Eleven million three hundred Uni= ted States of American Dollars only. I am only contacting you as a foreigner because this money can not be appro= ved to a local person here,without valid international foreign passport,but= it can only be approved to a foreigner with valid international passport o= r drivers license and foreign bank account because the money is in US DOLLA= RS and the former owner of the account MR.HAJI EL JAMAL ZOUE is a foreigner= too, and the money can only be approved into a foreign bank account. However, we will sign a binding agreement, to bind us together. Also I want= you to know that am revealing this business to you with believe in God tha= t you will never let me down in this business, you are the first and the on= ly person that I am contacting for this business, so please reply urgently = so that I will inform you on the next step to take urgently.Send also your = private telephone and fax numbers for easy communication. I want us to meet face to face if possible to build confidence and trust an= d to sign a binding agreement that will bind us together before transferrin= g the money to any account of your choice where the fund will be safe befor= e i fly to your country for withdrawal,sharing and investments. I need your full co-operation to make this work fine because the management= is ready to approve this payment to any foreigner who has correct informat= ion of this account, which I will give to you,upon your positive response a= nd once I am convinced that you are capable and will meet up with instructi= ons. I need your strong assurance that you will never,never betray me or let me = down. With my influence and the position of the bank official,i can transfe= r this money to any foreigner's reliable account which you can provide with= assurance that this money will be intact pending until my physical arrival= in your country for sharing. I will destroy all documents of transaction immediately we receive this mon= ey into your bank account and leaving no trace to any place and to build co= nfidence you can come immediately to discuss with me face to face after whi= ch I will make this remittance in your presence and two of us will fly back= to your country at least two days ahead of the money going into the accoun= t. I will apply for annual leave to get visa immediately I hear from you that = you are ready to act and receive this fund in your account. I will use my position and influence to obtain all legal approvals for onwa= rd transfer of this money to your bank account with appropriate clearance f= rom the relevant ministries and foreign exchange departments. At the conclusion of this business, you will be given 40% of the total amou= nt, 60% will be for me.I look forward to your arliest reply to my alternati= ve email address at (mrjea02@msn.com) Regards and God Blessed. Yours Brother MR.ALHAJI IBRAHIM JEGA TELEPHONE: +226-75595403=A0 --0-67149783-1257327397=:32541 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
FROM MR.ALHAJI IBRAHIM JEGA
D= ear Friend,



Please i want to transfer to overseas ($11,300,0= 00.00USD)Eleven million three hundred United States of American dollars onl= y) from a Bank in Burkina Faso.

So,i want to ask you to quietly look= for a reliable and honest person who will be capable and fit to provide ei= ther an existing bank account or to set up a new Bank account immediately t= o receive this money,even an empty bank account can se= rve to receive this money,as long as you will remain honest to me till the = end of this important business trusting in you and believing in God that you will never let me d= own either now or in future.

I am MR.ALHAJI IBRAHIM JEGA,the <= SPAN class=3Decxyshortcuts id=3Decxlw_1251684470_1>Auditor General of a b= ank in Burkina Faso, during the course of our auditing,I discovered a floating fund in an account opened in the bank= for years and nobody is operated on this account again,after going through= some old files in the records I discovered that the owner of the account d= ied without a [heir] hence the money is floating and if I do not remit this= money out urgently it will be forfeited for nothing.

The owner of t= his account is MR.HAJI EL JAMAL ZOUE,a foreigner,and an Industrialist, who = died since 2003 and no other person knows about this account or anything co= ncerning it,the account has no other beneficiary.

The amount involve= d is (USD11,300,000,000) Eleven million three hundred United States of Amer= ican Dollars only.

I am only contacting you as a foreigner because t= his money can not be approved to a local person here,without valid internat= ional foreign passport,but it can only be approved to a foreigner with vali= d international passport or drivers license and foreign bank account because the money is in US DOLLARS and the former owner of the account MR.= HAJI EL JAMAL ZOUE is a foreigner too, and the money can only be approved i= nto a foreign bank account.

However, we will sign a binding agreemen= t, to bind us together. Also I want you to know that am revealing this busi= ness to you with believe in God that you will never let me down in this bus= iness, you are the first and the only person that I am contacting for this = business, so please reply urgently so that I will inform you on the next st= ep to take urgently.Send also your private telephone and fax numbers for ea= sy communication.

I want us to meet face to face if possible to buil= d confidence and trust and to sign a binding agreement that will bind us to= gether before transferring the money to any account of your choice where th= e fund will be safe before i fly to your country for withdrawal,sharing and= investments.

I need your full co-operation to make this work fine because the management is ready to approve this payment to any foreig= ner who has correct information of this account, which I will give to you,u= pon your positive response and once I am convinced that you are capable and= will meet up with instructions.

I need your strong assurance that y= ou will never,never betray me or let me down. With my influence and the pos= ition of the bank official,i can transfer this money to any foreigner's rel= iable account which you can provide with assurance that this money will be = intact pending until my physical arrival in your country for sharing.

I will destroy all documents of transaction immediately we receive th= is money into your bank account and leaving no trace to any place and to bu= ild confidence you can come immediately to discuss with me face to face aft= er which I will make this remittance in your presence and two of us will fl= y back to your country at least two days ahead of the money going into the account.

I will apply for annual leave to get visa immedia= tely I hear from you that you are ready to act and receive this fund in you= r account.

I will use my position and influence to obtain all legal = approvals for onward transfer of this money to your bank account with appro= priate clearance from the relevant ministries and foreign exchange departme= nts.

At the conclusion of this business, you will be given 40% of th= e total amount, 60% will be for me.I look forward to your arliest reply to = my alternative email address at (<= SPAN class=3Decxyshortcuts id=3Decxlw_1252083953_2 style=3D"BACKGROUND: non= e transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; CURSOR: hand; BORDER-BOTTOM: #0066cc 1px= dashed"><= SPAN class=3Decxyshortcuts id=3Decxlw_1256212333_2 style=3D"BACKGROUND: non= e transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%; CURSOR: hand; BORDER-BOTTOM: #0066cc 1px= dashed">mrjea02@msn.com)


Regards and God Blessed.
Yours Brother
MR.ALHAJI IBR= AHIM JEGA
TELEPHONE: +226-75595403 <= /DIV>
--0-67149783-1257327397=:32541-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 12:38:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0CA63BE82; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jl8pLLlk2YyywTD2mAQz2Mm7U1D40DGgXQ37UOvqD/w=; b=g8XgUcD8TMaDqLn+kAnqbLRdWzDq4cIWJ+OLYAgZN9VJYWOgVjHOibUrMnlCXW5XPy w80IvJNCmi3qJ07tW+cdPgma1+npr0hyYNrsHUD0jY3wGhYPiW/g/eScx1en1jXIClRB JbLSLNSQRvMOdRecpiYPtP+vR5GCaTwYM9k5E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=ekTn9oupXcOS9kdkf95BQduaffASw5cxtfDD1FNR8+9FrzNoX9Xd8zN3HMPaIow3kp faCpWDGTU0zm6ehHXwnCqVe3e0VsoJxBpt73B9J/v6PaD5uTnTYBXr7NdzTcQ8OikTOx iMqjBkT1R5zHaQp7UIR1/iElhqXEQz1mud4nY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:38:47 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 369fe63679a6980d Message-ID: Subject: eigenharp roadshow From: Os To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I've secured an invite to the Eigenharp Roadshow next week. Let me know if anyone has any questions you'd like me to ask. cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 12:58:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FC1C3BE7C; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NmpGDidMcIOfBrGkLslDk7O6wEVifyhbhct0+8U7hYY=; b=wj2lzk8CAdYazMHpTCnn5f7eRHoXdIZtdLb8v/A4gXgwmVWkrjacTnxwqqCwMR9wD0 L9P4P1EQcAN+30zWVrH5UidKG1mxOGm6/DsdbS7glnR8hZ5O65sDJAi5rlxHOv7n9H/7 skqdso8/7AsKQHIyfPwI4Gx8wspGThIo+SQMg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=t7Qerd/w4CiOJ7ee68k6SZNa199U0p9D0VZqWBl+wGILE8NiCbMUMgjJ5Cidb3a24x W0B2vb2H0I8tTCVdXdHtOt0eCBWLbW9XE8TjU2XEqivDu96cPlxU8qbgidmItg/rcSC4 ZggAQfG5ggNYDEljXFgFuA+ZJDZl+1TVTyx/s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:58:45 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:58:46 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Os wrote: > I've secured an invite to the Eigenharp Roadshow next week. > > Let me know if anyone has any questions you'd like me to ask. I'd like to hear about the company's plans on a future model that focuses on controlling external electronics and that doesn't come with all the on-board sound banks and built-in audio engine. Some of the reps mentioned this briefly in a video but without going into details. Background: I'm not comfy with the idea of buying an electronic/mechanic instrument where you pay a lot of money for its ability to play on-board sounds, that you might not even like. And if you want a bigger sound palette it is the same company that provides the expansion libraries. This marketing concept sort of contradicts everything that is cool and creative to me with modularity, open-source, community... and music. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 13:01:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E9833BE80; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=yCakxXqiB0nhTspxm+ARgW6rI0GIerg48d7tPBf+JLM=; b=g1U22n/ankohcGE1wMoYnNqOEK+JDYiqNrSalECCOBxzCyEETYo8OzSiqKmSO6ARSK PtC/99hCYC7Lhm75V2THe6b+MVGBq2Add1Voa7sCy3g2UPYcPNGu1nJ/VNQX+O0A/IWn qXhdjzvTyL1xEsdVLnpXrEyPwim6Tvz4HOjyU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZM3Z9uvNnj0GuEoJjeQIk+LmMSpilTCgjrVapqiHB0gujXbL2BPS4SCRluT01fVhtN ezAR1ho/gz3z5mjtxe2634tSh9ZxDQ/UE25muaBhd8qi2YlYbY74DIm1JaD1oGOpO61D pqUdNc0eHNOaILJQcz60fsilmSiGQP06IecUE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:01:08 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 47bbf935ba88e562 Message-ID: Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per, I think you need to re-read what's already online. There are no onboard sounds at all - it's all done on the Mac. cheers, os. 2009/11/4 Per Boysen : > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Os wrote: >> I've secured an invite to the Eigenharp Roadshow next week. >> >> Let me know if anyone has any questions you'd like me to ask. > > > I'd like to hear about the company's plans on a future model that > focuses on controlling external electronics and that doesn't come with > all the on-board sound banks and built-in audio engine. Some of the > reps mentioned this briefly in a video but without going into details. > > Background: > I'm not comfy with the idea of buying an electronic/mechanic > instrument where you pay a lot of money for its ability to play > on-board sounds, that you might not even like. And if you want a > bigger sound palette it is the same company that provides the > expansion libraries. This marketing concept sort of contradicts > everything that is cool and creative to me with modularity, > open-source, community... and music. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 13:19:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 757EA3BE7E; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:19:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LRfQXgUVjVUYrBFU7MBK4WCeQB68T1hJAZJyBhoYWLM=; b=xgxfh1t99mUXrySGa1IV0Z0Hw+m398Liejy+pdCqRwB++tShkhSMUc1Rns8VG8LRrl JtN5Llz86egiAqW6Wh+VALnL52t+1Jy7UnB5lOW+yIVRoMNR9eNbD9AFwrf88nJc+dgG 1xdXmKkbLS8pBqAXA/TkHV3zCixxVc+pNttD0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bQ7ac1pha3diuCvaksevUnjSQWOyQJqaUMCb/RONdPJub8r7yk1gD6RQaAsHND4GrU q2S4NXq3xUFPqX4+3wvg5F8OXtuCeT3k9M/R6yz8/0CrpA3USDM45nefs91JZyJpYLLg FpNH+y02HYd1vHjsOvsGjfB8b2KekBUja02aY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:19:03 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:19:04 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Os wrote: > I think you need to re-read what's already online. There are no > onboard sounds at all - it's all done on the Mac. Ah, that's good news! I was under the impression that the Mac software is just a sort of extension of the Eigenharp's built-in hardware. Anyway, I'm still interested in hearing about advanced controller capabilities. MIDI and OSC specifications? How many physical continuous controller tools? Do they work at the same time as you are playing "notes"? Someone mentioned in a video it is "Apple Loop compatible", so does that mean you import an Apple Loop into a memory and trig it from the pads on the Eigenharp? Or can you even create an Apple Loop *inside* the Eigenharp from what you are playing? And if that is possible - is the process real-time or is it like in Logic; you load up a utility where you type in characteristics for the loop and save it to disk. per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 13:26:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35F3C3BE81; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:26:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=o9QOrgoRoYS+bpcD1Kkge5ws3w0xnzexf2OvhREn9F8=; b=nbfjfa1gwZQ5i9ieWr5TZAImJOPMBrXzOPo4YOxklU+0uRPxvk08wnuTzHhheHTZn8 XAcYsaE7LIqzoSD/6mS0HG1rieGV886KSgOkazwG8KseU60B2PWrj2Gs9FEYsWnG6DbM 3wUdqrborHWF7PQZ5cT/afLu19fvBf7p1w7h8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=HX8njCkXJ09Px5mUpBrJVyqPA1arImW6zikVmNaBguRAf3cn9pVipgrLL/VAk4W+nw Fef2pBRZF425Jk0uwcMCd3MdeE+eXWZNW69peUUTZY426FFpBflo45TWcpUu6m1yZSJ6 vfvucIavk6oex/v6HvEfnYnR2O+mMB4ngiERg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:26:41 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 52185ac405d54d1c Message-ID: Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:26:45 +0000 (UTC) Some of this is already answered: > MIDI and OSC specifications? No OSC yet. "Almost any control from the keyboard or MIDI inputs can be used to manipulate any parameter in the system." "Hardware MIDI Output interface." "Hardware MIDI Input interface." see http://www.eigenlabs.com/software/ > How many physical > continuous controller tools? 132 keys x 3 axes per key 2 ribbons 1 breathe pipe see http://www.eigenlabs.com/alpha/ > Do they work at the same time as you are > playing "notes"? yes > Someone mentioned in a video it is "Apple Loop > compatible", so does that mean you import an Apple Loop into a memory > and trig it from the pads on the Eigenharp? yes - http://www.eigenlabs.com/software/ > Or can you even create an > Apple Loop *inside* the Eigenharp from what you are playing? And if > that is possible - is the process real-time or is it like in Logic; > you load up a utility where you type in characteristics for the loop > and save it to disk. I've not heard of any real-time looping capability. cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 13:35:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E9B13BE7E; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=P4zW2gkyo9Sq+UhKDySqh06d8X2Ih5gzbkYPNKm4Iuh6IKYMCLKc8dAWzgmvZI81ryvC6XG8ZGfElulses7qrvcKUnTRw4slHm1nXfQVYkEDk5do9Pwxmybkkowcn2hi39ckq3GL8DwE/E8jdmp8RD4HKqKE2XxYaPrKqj/R04o= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: wO0XKx4VM1m1fFzcp8JlskVrGNOgitKIDCiD5aNHAYNjEDc5o99S04myZvrT6QYcuHwJih4G8ZKLk7gRP4KQv5ccmS0z6Ls.H93qUJxil09ZdfoG0Q.rcRCHE.TZ5CEXbCrq5Mg1FWw8OtE8InKZNECKlatiw9qsppuKQeNBp.fa0UrWKPX1XkMoW5BRzl7uSFUJNsXRB5qkTlo9AZJOM.icR6_2ObXXZ8J4HUEdpIDb6gtMgi4rG5T..qk35Ap6Xwl31Cn8MNd4dzSsFBsAbxbdChRT1hlDEEwysEf2A3oZTG5RFgkiesQUfYH2._LOZv3Mx5DTpxUuiNiRAQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <002e01ca5d53$b7a89d30$4701a8c0@ad9f1e10631784> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:35:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per, I think it uses it's own protocol. There are some informative interviews here and so on; Linkage; http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/10/06/first-look-the-eigenlabs-eigenharp/ http://www.youtube.com/user/eigenlabs http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8294355.stm Best, Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:19 PM Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Os wrote: >> I think you need to re-read what's already online. There are no >> onboard sounds at all - it's all done on the Mac. > > Ah, that's good news! I was under the impression that the Mac software > is just a sort of extension of the Eigenharp's built-in hardware. > Anyway, I'm still interested in hearing about advanced controller > capabilities. MIDI and OSC specifications? How many physical > continuous controller tools? Do they work at the same time as you are > playing "notes"? Someone mentioned in a video it is "Apple Loop > compatible", so does that mean you import an Apple Loop into a memory > and trig it from the pads on the Eigenharp? Or can you even create an > Apple Loop *inside* the Eigenharp from what you are playing? And if > that is possible - is the process real-time or is it like in Logic; > you load up a utility where you type in characteristics for the loop > and save it to disk. > > per > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 13:46:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A6C03BE80; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 283937228/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.170.186/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.170.186 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmQBAKIU8UpPTqq6/2dsb2JhbAAIhGrHZpEVgTKCOFME X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,680,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="283937228" Message-ID: <4AF185D3.2080503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:46:59 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow References: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:46:59 +0000 (UTC) There's a review of Eigenharp in this months Sound On Sound. No mention of Osc. Each button is polyhonically pressure sensitive, and sends controllers if pushed in either X or Y axis. 2 Ribbon controllers, absolute or relative either side of "fingerboard". Main controller is connected to a base station by a "starquad cable". ...which indicates a serial protocol, so I'd be checking for latency beyond that expected by a usb controller. Anyway, I guess you guys are more into the pico. 18 keys 4 simple buttons usb connection (no base station) £349 Both models use the same control software, which can host soundfont, au and send out midi & audio. To get any flexibility worth having, you need to learn a language called "Belcanto", something the reviewer did not attempt. andy butler personally, I'm sticking with the klarnet :-) Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Os wrote: >> I think you need to re-read what's already online. There are no >> onboard sounds at all - it's all done on the Mac. > > Ah, that's good news! I was under the impression that the Mac software > is just a sort of extension of the Eigenharp's built-in hardware. > Anyway, I'm still interested in hearing about advanced controller > capabilities. MIDI and OSC specifications? How many physical > continuous controller tools? Do they work at the same time as you are > playing "notes"? Someone mentioned in a video it is "Apple Loop > compatible", so does that mean you import an Apple Loop into a memory > and trig it from the pads on the Eigenharp? Or can you even create an > Apple Loop *inside* the Eigenharp from what you are playing? And if > that is possible - is the process real-time or is it like in Logic; > you load up a utility where you type in characteristics for the loop > and save it to disk. > > per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 13:52:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5453C3BE84; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 283939356/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.170.186/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.170.186 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmQBAM8V8UpPTqq6/2dsb2JhbAAIhGrHapEVgTKCOFME X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,680,1249254000"; d="scan'208";a="283939356" Message-ID: <4AF18708.6000300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:52:08 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow pt2 References: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Someone mentioned in a video it is "Apple Loop > compatible", so does that mean you import an Apple Loop into a memory > and trig it from the pads on the Eigenharp? yes >Or can you even create an > Apple Loop *inside* the Eigenharp from what you are playing? you can plug in a microphone, the reviewer thought you could loop it > And if > that is possible - is the process real-time or is it like in Logic; > you load up a utility where you type in characteristics for the loop > and save it to disk. maybe google "Belcanto" > > per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 14:56:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3487D3BE81; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:56:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:56:03 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091104145603.255690@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX190WTRe/mt0zTcCnrWBEbz1HjWQ8kgvjzgKS7p6qn H2eIY5PxQJjT856TwbM8IomjZwxwXao3kbAQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: YvqaIqg2TlI8ccF+jGlrS5pOU2poZZn4 X-FuHaFi: 0.78 Resent-Message-ID: <-dIhlC.A.RlD.HYZ8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:56:07 +0000 (UTC) If I remember right, they intentionally ditched OSC. I thought they _did_ have own sounds included in the Eigenharp -giving it stand-alone capability? best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 15:22:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0B033BE80; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Q++oqy8eJjZWObOqrIwEMilixybYiL29C0OueQEPwsM=; b=g8oIAX9j1+tz7KulPK80RU+zaoTLF6xid0lQL7aPdLJVkfKElMRG3+M6rBUbDLff/U XBZUa9849cbGVe1l4VGituArTJHkZufzcDsqrntGHv4i1sZfw0jsGXYoZ8gBjOAXWJzf doe2TS5uUaVgP1eNR4BbTYBUPM/bnuyCPAVWI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vzTBQX/4kbHQBudkSCfMYLBrE1Ot13JarwK8REnCDaVmZ9FfFeA93eB1nfVI37RR5j cW4Y1opEyFPAVCcM4ds5hd17e9CNl2eAncdQgMBxojqCgB82AtwmHdl/GkwTkHS0fEfC zhlQQW37XsWdeJ49CnYEAJ0UmHJGJYHnJLkAU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:21:58 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911040721w67721ef3meb870471ea20c239@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:22:02 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Os wrote: > > I've not heard of any real-time looping capability. Just noticed they demonstrate that at 14 minutes into this video: http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/10/06/first-look-the-eigenlabs-eigenharp/ Don't know if that's supposed to be labeled "audio looping" or "MIDI looping" though, so let's just call it "Eigenharp looping" ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 15:26:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59BBA3BE84; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kqZOw7pi8WXTuK4wxPpjmoRyOCE31JUApJ5PmyR9Z3A=; b=XLB1vKkKc8NslxSa1w8bI3u73/lOkzcLB6tp+Y+l6hibBCtL0RJgPpUSBnbkp51dm8 jzLHOLbiXyP0QN7A9cmPhv5mv/4LPDgkYPXlUWylDxpGfkGJ61OumsYchEwh6Hr84XTd eco7uHhh1LPyWHUaeKoh+CfZCius3oDArfiho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kqYTVRwqlNnK/uxVr/vjvvNWt84X4LG0WupOQQL27bZmnJV5LU1oxSBH06onrnlx/1 uTQV2XbCI4vlBmh9feM7/DTtRE3TB+6grUbIHj1XLQDAeHKiSEntIGPKoAtnAGQakN+X wR5BW7jhwEzSk6fJ1j8lug2U8Vk8QrhdF8SQg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <20091104145603.255690@gmx.net> References: <66f9cc1e0911040458x614eba83sb1f8f29f0e9e17aa@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0911040519t1370bdb0j5b6f97e836b22f83@mail.gmail.com> <20091104145603.255690@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:26:25 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2e0eeacc6dde3d67 Message-ID: Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:26:27 +0000 (UTC) > If I remember right, they intentionally ditched OSC. the line was that they needed to define their own protocol for robustness of transmission in a live situation. it's likely (according to one interview I watched) that they'll implement an OSC interface module in the software, just like they've implemented a MIDI interface module. > I thought they _did_ have own sounds included in the Eigenharp -giving it stand-alone capability? definitely not. they quite specifically wanted to avoid this route to prevent obsolescence. cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 15:37:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 767D63BE7E; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:37:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HkdVif2Ap3mOrqvLdlE3YowJu5jBP/z0+JBgaqJUYnE=; b=X6wgk/jhvlb06+deHEhBSsn5YU8FRrk2I2hRT0fDrwXrkNOtjpTKuhdqD86HUPAWAp XejnVuBdFBheUrkDfFtkSrQEAHxb5BrcPx3v2mwWZ/dlm3OxAAL4vpP5rFtals4R41oU ErvsVySrUHWpjI5GXP4CFDiV6aVBWGmAxy3P8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=YYR/Qy64K1OS11PsLdKuAad2yyMOW7ponu8km75x0XOsf2uwf26+XYiIXzaDUFNzZq 3aHca8tdpr17Re5XXxdF0BDTlgvcBPCrQIkZ/K3932SW6D4Gdp9eLfbhVhYbxoyCGLdc 433MVbCmfHqfpgLov+GCnvA1gHck79gXsWpHs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:37:55 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 59f0069cbc1c2374 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Tujiko Noriko's "U" From: Os To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:37:58 +0000 (UTC) no obvious looping, but this is one of the most striking and hauntingly beautiful albums I've heard in a while. http://www.emusic.com/album/Tujiko-Noriko-U-MP3-Download/11291677.html cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 15:57:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09ED63BE7E; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:56:59 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Stylophone BeatBox... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Just caught wind of this earlier today. =46or those of you who are fans of quirky sound=20 generators and/or tiny percussion instruments, it=20 looks like we're approaching the imminent release=20 of the Stylophone BeatBox (=20 http://www.stylophonica.com./index.php/the-news ). =46rom their webpage: "After the success of the S1 [Stylophone] became=20 apparent, Dubreq were asked directly if we could=20 come up with some ideas for 'follow-on' products=20 for the Stylophone brand, the BeatBox was the=20 obvious first choice.... The BeatBox features three all new voices, an=20 electronic drum kit with useful percussion=20 sounds, a human beat-box voice... and finally a=20 'bass' voice which give a bass melody option to=20 allow you to play a bass line (or set up a=20 repeating bass loop) to accompany another=20 instrument" Here's a video Brett Domino performing a demo=20 using two Stylophone Beatboxes:=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhELTtsBRie4 And, it looks like it's got rudimentary looping=20 capability, so you can do percussion/bassline=20 overdubs(!). As far as I can tell, it looks like it might be a=20 nice percussion complement to any hardware Looper=20 who's trying to keep their setup small and light.=20 Cheap too, with a MSRP to be set at =A319.99. --m. -- _____ "beyond this window, night is shuddering and the earth grinds to a halt beyond this window, something unknown is watching you and me...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 16:03:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 570CD3BE86; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hpElW19t2P+6ZoJxcKZbz84iPvIGrdfA3dYk5FGP1LQ=; b=XEqCdwV0ZXKnqXhRublSAZIlIOgPPeD+jnYsbk7t3hqRqDizenaN41rX4QDig7JlnM 0Jzgoj5nt2X2TF+YEZZhjr7lk9L8FVi88jRbKUDU2oVOLvLroFE8ydHl0rE28GKambw6 sHBkZmEWRNq/fhPVODr4zZI4zKsCPs2LMzO+8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ozoY2UAj20YcAtGS/u2pObBmUZ9mNUWXzH1J7WvbYEux0leq7oGgtxEoLzXGJaMlb9 tnbPcDWytxO1AwG+RvsGzb5A6jjfsxKwD9//Tsu9D8RIAGiCbOIXErMp1gj4EWEE8vKr pRfrlF7WkSz3cldx/qKeqmkuOBf8fD3CfO0BQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:56:22 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911040756v6e1efbe8ufc3d4987430a692f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:03:48 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Os wrote: > Let me know if anyone has any questions you'd like me to ask. At second thought I think this would be the most interesting question: It would be great if there will be someone at the Eigenharp Roadshow that has practiced playing the instrument with a twelve tone scale setting, as opposed to the "pre fixed" scales demonstrated in the videos. Maybe someone has explored alternative chromatic fingerings as a tool to play different "harmonic key scales with instant out-of-key-note access"? If you could ask this person what "the feel is" to play it that way? How smoothly can one run through harmonic melodies according to a scale and throw in out-of-key notes spontaneously? I mean, on a guitar this is very smooth because (harmonic) keys can be viewed as patterns on the neck while you would still have instant access to any note outside the actual key's pattern, on a piano it is sort of "middle ground" because of white and black keys differing in weight and positioning while on a clarinet each (harmonic) key needs learning a new pattern. I would guess the Eigenharp can be used similar to an EWI in this regard: learning to play scales within a 12 note chromatic fingering pattern and eventually simply transpose the pitch of the entire instrument? And also: learning many alternative chromatic fingerings that can all be used as the basis to play scales for different keys so you can then chose your fingering pattern depending on what melodies you intend to play and simply hit the correct sounding key by transposing the entire instrument's pitch accordingly. Has someone explored this on the Eigenharp? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 16:39:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6874B3BE82; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AF1AE6F.6080607@het.it> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:40:15 +0100 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Stylophone BeatBox... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------080803090303020704060305" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:39:58 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080803090303020704060305 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yess! very interesting i want one.. or two!
where can i buy it? (on the web)

Max Liver

Mech ha scritto:
Just caught wind of this earlier today.

For those of you who are fans of quirky sound generators and/or tiny percussion instruments, it looks like we're approaching the imminent release of the Stylophone BeatBox ( http://www.stylophonica.com./index.php/the-news ).

>From their webpage:

"After the success of the S1 [Stylophone] became apparent, Dubreq were asked directly if we could come up with some ideas for 'follow-on' products for the Stylophone brand, the BeatBox was the obvious first choice....

The BeatBox features three all new voices, an electronic drum kit with useful percussion sounds, a human beat-box voice... and finally a 'bass' voice which give a bass melody option to allow you to play a bass line (or set up a repeating bass loop) to accompany another instrument"

Here's a video Brett Domino performing a demo using two Stylophone Beatboxes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hELTtsBRie4

And, it looks like it's got rudimentary looping capability, so you can do percussion/bassline overdubs(!).

As far as I can tell, it looks like it might be a nice percussion complement to any hardware Looper who's trying to keep their setup small and light. Cheap too, with a MSRP to be set at £19.99.

    --m.


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luq8b6zZL//pf/v6v//83//+//8A8U/gQIIFDR5EmFDhQoYJAwIAOw== --------------080803090303020704060305-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 16:49:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A16BB3BE85; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: eigenharp roadshow Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:49:23 +0100 Message-ID: <006e01ca5d6e$c3475c60$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acpdbos74gEx8pE8SpOD2PUvI7SNDgAACb0g In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.1.53; VDF: 7.1.6.187) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:49:29 +0000 (UTC) > Let me know if anyone has any questions you'd like me to ask. Windows? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 16:52:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E9053BE84; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AF1B145.3060900@het.it> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:52:21 +0100 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Stylophone BeatBox... References: <4AF1AE6F.6080607@het.it> In-Reply-To: <4AF1AE6F.6080607@het.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:52:02 +0000 (UTC) I bought it here: price 25 $ https://100milligrams.com/index.php i hope! Max Liver > Yess! very interesting i want one.. or two! > where can i buy it? (on the web) > > Max Liver > > Mech ha scritto: >> Just caught wind of this earlier today. >> >> For those of you who are fans of quirky sound generators and/or tiny >> percussion instruments, it looks like we're approaching the imminent >> release of the Stylophone BeatBox ( >> http://www.stylophonica.com./index.php/the-news ). >> >> >From their webpage: >> >> "After the success of the S1 [Stylophone] became apparent, Dubreq >> were asked directly if we could come up with some ideas for >> 'follow-on' products for the Stylophone brand, the BeatBox was the >> obvious first choice.... >> >> The BeatBox features three all new voices, an electronic drum kit >> with useful percussion sounds, a human beat-box voice... and finally >> a 'bass' voice which give a bass melody option to allow you to play a >> bass line (or set up a repeating bass loop) to accompany another >> instrument" >> >> Here's a video Brett Domino performing a demo using two Stylophone >> Beatboxes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hELTtsBRie4 >> >> And, it looks like it's got rudimentary looping capability, so you >> can do percussion/bassline overdubs(!). >> >> As far as I can tell, it looks like it might be a nice percussion >> complement to any hardware Looper who's trying to keep their setup >> small and light. Cheap too, with a MSRP to be set at £19.99. >> >> --m. > > > -- > -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 16:57:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBF503BE92; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GRvF6URodH0Ja5TCX/8MyULcNF3qTRj9EchUElTCcuI=; b=Ck6VQtzE7sEkhmHW0C3tHmAg7v3UKu0v4vUw0+1QZRL9+F8//LORnadtElxuCU+4jS SOqQO7400r+i3suQOkgYg0PBvmUC3yhbHkxZ3YANB6NVgTTBD6QXddxljo3YkvIfFnOi 74sFNhpKIIvDd84B6fkWAuxymovsJKz0IRJyo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DGGYKPYy7m2l9/j5iPktAGiTf67A1z+ICbn/IBgMaDlZVCSiNYwFIBJpTreGJ1qQ5R DtZ3CEZZBCKoVnj5wJ5rUPcoBt6Vr10tOTK6frW20SzDYLfzrOEMKLogqNwelDPJVmrW rkxlWciHbx1cIWYwj26l+t0/l91Y5Fb17ifl4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <006e01ca5d6e$c3475c60$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <006e01ca5d6e$c3475c60$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:57:22 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911040857y5157f755x78ddfa7da2cbb703@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:57:28 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > > Windows? It was said in one of the interviews that Windows support is in the pipeline. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 17:05:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 929C43BE89; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:05:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=f79JdiaH0WW7B4IUXBTdnPkDrVQ559uR4AXmjMtM088=; b=gBFJtokAxzLgXoER6bjsireVtkMYWprGJzf9/U6S0lD/51W8DHU2yzucIIA+iRRY6Y gsrOPQRqDTWfmFrT+/XKIqb2axYOjFFMa0gUH5d1UqpcBFYnqxpCq/MQV6hd+jC/5r7p ztyskEw2/Lpm7WapRuv3XTqEaCXFKi7G6XleA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=lk4j0kg7/1fZb5sUMpZKcnzX9X4QGcVxPYKmLbZQO3TSuzLjSZn5O4nILbrrx+Y08w QsWSGQJo3BNPHIM75NbWRxlGSq1oha0G7Ln+kGKA7mk+FoOIRDbMrTySncMHa028kj53 1x2panUhtej7sw3aR4BBPbn6uV4I1rEIPo7cM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911040857y5157f755x78ddfa7da2cbb703@mail.gmail.com> References: <006e01ca5d6e$c3475c60$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <66f9cc1e0911040857y5157f755x78ddfa7da2cbb703@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:05:15 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8286e2bfe03b4eae Message-ID: Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:05:19 +0000 (UTC) I seem to be giving this link a lot today :) http://www.eigenlabs.com/software/ "Windows software support expected January 2010." os. 2009/11/4 Per Boysen : > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Michael Peters wrote: >> >> Windows? > > It was said in one of the interviews that Windows support is in the pipeline. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 17:43:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8C183BE82; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xLi8LwM3tjjyvchI4X5zBj2cXtujA0A50QlEpxDu5j0=; b=kE7uXnORJ2S+mfHfSpDMVpZIDf0r6CjoK4LuwMM1Ti5o1hDoEdqAT/o9uwEiBXRetL xKB19jHRfcOhqOqEsxtudTIR2rLa5nFPByxMupVw7P0PuRPWtdlTRWE6qD2G5O7Fh41P YnnEwTqoafVFP5S8d3sjzqhCgqHexmDTuZ3x8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=A3UgPo+Nejf0u4yUUFYfixAxbZgvEh0P81cHzAwlP+WvIO4/hHJwF5llLgL5ZBhBGe XVjlKWCxqjkp3jNVJfQbvdf0I6HKMHzuL+5qKpJNg7M89FoIejajzRfsuMYiiNChTKUn Poj/eXrlolpyb1RAnAeBxhvy5Vwqfsx8kn+78= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:43:38 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Tujiko Noriko's "U" From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd22b0c953e8804778f2619 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:43:39 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd22b0c953e8804778f2619 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 She's one of my favorites too. "From Tokyo to Naiagara" is also a great album. -- Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Os wrote: > no obvious looping, but this is one of the most striking and > hauntingly beautiful albums I've heard in a while. > > http://www.emusic.com/album/Tujiko-Noriko-U-MP3-Download/11291677.html > > > cheers, > os. > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://twitter.com/expertsleepers > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > --000e0cd22b0c953e8804778f2619 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable She's one of my favorites too. "From Tokyo to Naiagara" is al= so a great album.


--
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Os <os@collective.co.uk= > wrote:
no obvious looping, but this is one of the most striking and
hauntingly beautiful albums I've heard in a while.

http://www.emusic.com/album/Tujiko-Noriko-U-MP3-D= ownload/11291677.html


cheers,
os.

--
os@collective.co.uk
http://twit= ter.com/expertsleepers
http://www.da= rkroomtheband.net/
http://www.= expert-sleepers.co.uk/




--000e0cd22b0c953e8804778f2619-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 18:11:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CAA73BE80; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:11:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:11:33 -0600 Subject: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Thread-Topic: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Thread-Index: Acpdej2fjj88ps9xR92sXov+lor3JQ== Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586@barq.sailpoint.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586barqsailpoint_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:11:37 +0000 (UTC) --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586barqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just received a Novation Launchpad and thought some of you might be interested in some technical details. It works fine with Live, I won't go into detail on that since I'm more interested in using it with other applications, but if I were a heavy Live user I would definitely get one. It speaks normal MIDI so with some work it can be used with other applications. If you have Novation's Automap utility you can do some basic mapping of pads to plugin parameters but to get the most out of it you will need to write code or Max/MSP patches to control it. It's about 10 inches square and 1/2 inch thick. Build quality is okay, the case is plastic but it feels solid enough. If you dropped it it would probably survive. It has to sit on a table, there is no stand socket on the bottom. The pads are smaller than on most drum pad controllers like the Trigger Finger, less than an inch square. They are not velocity sensitive which makes this of limited use as a drum controller. Pressing a pad produces a soft "click" that you can feel but not hear. This let's you know the button has been engaged but I found it slightly annoying. The pictures and most of the videos make it look like the default state of the buttons are bright white but they're not. When a button is off, it has a slightly translucent dull grey color which is not that bad but not nearly as pretty as it looks in pictures. Under each pad are two LEDs one green and one red. These can be set to one of three shades (low, medium, and high) and combined to produce shades of yellow and orange. They don't do white. In theory you have 16 shades available for each button (4 states squared). In practice many of the shades that combine red and green are so slightly different that they can't be used as static indicators. You can use them to show "movement" by cycling through the shades, you'll see the difference when they change. But for buttons that just glow one color it's hard to tell the difference between "Red Low + Green Low" and "Red Low + Green Medium". Also there is variance in the brightness of the leds from pad to pad so when combining them to make yellow it looks quite "splotchy", some are very yellow and others look like pale green. So in practice I found around 6 or 7 really distinct shades that could be used as static indicators. The rest could be used to make pulsating lightshows like the Kaoss pad. Overall I was a bit disappointed in the colors, it is not as pretty as the videos or the picture on the box, but hey the price is still reasonable. It is not programmable. It only sends a fixed set of MIDI notes for each pad and CC's for the buttons along the top. All are on channel 1 and this cannot be changed. So if you want to combine this with MIDI from another source, say an FCB1010, you'll have to reprogram the FCB to send on a different channel, or do channel mapping in software. The videos make it look like it has "pages" for example in Mixer mode there is a page for volume control, one for pan, etc. This is all done in Live. The Launchpad itself doesn't change what notes the pads send when you select page buttons, the application has to watch for the page buttons and dynamically change note mappings to do different things. For example, in the demo for controlling track levels, each column of pads acts like a "fader". The pads light up from the bottom to whatever pad you press, press the top pad and the fader is all the way up, press a pad in the center and the fader is around halfway up, etc. The hardware is not magically converting this into CC7 for the application, it's just sending notes and it is up to the application to respond to them and turn the other lights in the column on or off. This is why with Automap you can't do much with this besides trigger things. There are no knobs and the virtual faders are a trick supported only by Live. So in summary, if you're a Max hacker or write your own applications, it is possible to do everything Live does and more but it will take some work. This will work well for controlling Mobius since the architecture is fairly close to Live. But the fun part will be making pulsating light shows :) Jeff --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586barqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I just received a Novation Launchpad and thought some = of you might be

interested in some technical details.

 

It works fine with Live, I won't go into detail on tha= t since I'm more

interested in using it with other applications, but if= I were a heavy

Live user I would definitely get one.

 

It speaks normal MIDI so with some work it can be used= with other

applications.  If you have Novation's Automap uti= lity you can do some

basic mapping of pads to plugin parameters but to get = the most out of

it you will need to write code or Max/MSP patches to c= ontrol it.

 

It's about 10 inches square and 1/2 inch thick.  = Build quality is

okay, the case is plastic but it feels solid enough.&n= bsp; If you dropped

it it would probably survive.  It has to sit on a table, there is no

stand socket on the bottom.

 

The pads are smaller than on most drum pad controllers= like the

Trigger Finger, less than an inch square.  They a= re not velocity

sensitive which makes this of limited use as a drum controller.

Pressing a pad produces a soft "click" that = you can feel but not hear.

This let's you know the button has been engaged but I = found it

slightly annoying.

 

The pictures and most of the videos make it look like = the default

state of the buttons are bright white but they're not.=   When a button

is off, it has a slightly translucent dull grey color = which is not

that bad but not nearly as pretty as it looks in pictures.  Under each

pad are two LEDs one green and one red.  These ca= n be set to one of

three shades (low, medium, and high) and combined to p= roduce shades of

yellow and orange.  They don't do white.

 

In theory you have 16 shades available for each button= (4 states

squared).  In practice many of the shades that co= mbine red and green

are so slightly different that they can't be used as s= tatic

indicators.  You can use them to show "movement" by cycling through

the shades, you'll see the difference when they change.  But for

buttons that just glow one color it's hard to tell the difference

between "Red Low + Green Low" and "Red = Low + Green Medium".  Also

there is variance in the brightness of the leds from p= ad to pad so

when combining them to make yellow it looks quite "splotchy", some are

very yellow and others look like pale green.

 

So in practice I found around 6 or 7 really distinct s= hades that could

be used as static indicators.  The rest could be = used to make

pulsating lightshows like the Kaoss pad.  Overall= I was a bit

disappointed in the colors, it is not as pretty as the videos or the

picture on the box, but hey the price is still reasona= ble.

 

It is not programmable.  It only sends a fixed se= t of MIDI notes for

each pad and CC's for the buttons along the top. = All are on channel 1

and this cannot be changed.  So if you want to co= mbine this with MIDI

from another source, say an FCB1010, you'll have to reprogram the FCB

to send on a different channel, or do channel mapping = in software.

 

The videos make it look like it has "pages" = for example in Mixer mode

there is a page for volume control, one for pan, etc.&= nbsp; This is all

done in Live.  The Launchpad itself doesn't chang= e what notes the pads

send when you select page buttons, the application has= to watch for

the page buttons and dynamically change note mappings = to do different

things.

 

For example, in the demo for controlling track levels,= each column of

pads acts like a "fader".  The pads lig= ht up from the bottom to

whatever pad you press, press the top pad and the fade= r is all the way

up, press a pad in the center and the fader is around halfway up, etc.

The hardware is not magically converting this into CC7= for the

application, it's just sending notes and it is up to t= he application

to respond to them and turn the other lights in the co= lumn on or

off.  This is why with Automap you can't do much = with this besides

trigger things.  There are no knobs and the virtu= al faders are a

trick supported only by Live.

 

So in summary, if you're a Max hacker or write your ow= n applications,

it is possible to do everything Live does and more but= it will take

some work.   This will work well for control= ling Mobius since

the architecture is fairly close to Live.  But th= e fun part

will be making pulsating light shows :)

 

Jeff

 

--_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586barqsailpoint_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 18:29:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F36B3BE78; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jFzLSDBjMeKfnh8LzFe4sY7phoTqKLMCcdEX2l1UjlQ=; b=J1JWhsAuSqEWc0avJO7Gkj8lOXpg6KTmZALJWcyFjR7nms5nW7qOBz4krF31+s3uWh BK6KYeoL/sVlkgKfr3OjnOsU/0FvOYH63XcLu8GzkyvvSHQXsQfTnA0IIYPHkYb6I7py nTq2XH9xEVYQ0fF1rpQVZjxLIjGHmTJfO9iG4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Ov6gdx6Pn6KcFrs2xQ0iCab3IZgwuS+zV/c/YC7dcyKTQ0cBML36+WIaU1opPf/OKy tl8++8kXcaD7I/THDxPjdezoHjJ3nTGiastWIfWdRxEuwIl6u/4sSFPNy2ZlSw3iok6D aZve+6xEgevEpTAXTOkTAgUPrfroDIx0RGlDk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:29:11 -0500 Message-ID: <2fb9e4730911041029w24e2414ve7d02f602e176919@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: Looping show on November 20th From: Clint Allen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:29:13 +0000 (UTC) I will be performing a solo electronics/looping show (as The Dark Halo Project) on Friday, November 20th at Lisa's Oak Street Lounge in Louisville, KY as part of a larger show. I will be using Ableton Live 8 and Reason 4 for the first time in a live setting, along with a Korg MicroX, Roland XP-80, two DR-770's, and two Gibson Echoplex units as well as Chapman Stick and fretless bass. Needless to say I will be practicing this setup for the next two weeks and trying to figure out the best backup plan if the laptop crashes. Wish me luck! I believe my set will start somewhere between 10:00 and 10:30pm and lasts about 30 minutes. I'll be posting more information on Facebook and by request in the next few days. Stop by if you are in the area. Lisa's Oak Street Lounge 1004 E Oak St, Louisville, KY=E2=80=8E (502) 637-9315=E2=80=8E Thanks, Clint Clint E. Allen * Technology Consultant * Sound Engineering From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 18:30:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA0233BE7C; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ATC45YbN8qqhMPH6P7PH4Pl9/TUPI40VUgmIH6y207w=; b=E1sLWtFyZg3n6cceAwgGBDSCISAKLZ+oFMb85hQtVEn245S2P/tRI6DtJVfCU5thlB xZYN4qYm5lwHYCSf52C5fmQJuRK6Mi02o5VqLImRfbP4SinNDYvekyGPXIvTZcOhBUEK Vjqbmk79KZOVQJN6vyhKZlRRYQvXynWHETNWQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YvWLhwgH8OgiJjCPPe+dVRr5GBJQ+sZa7ajV75Bu1er93fWF3RIrZuOZhvbQRSDN2b UFKdvKt9+kfIXgV1G6d26r5tPhEKIOD5+4IZRBmbq4gNWD1m0B617gEbBLX/Y1PzszBw CYBZ1yxCQrQKy8lTvx+RT0gO+2e9EHD5rh1aw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:30:25 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911041030h348b6f4eo6c1261f24b0e1488@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:30:25 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > Novation Launchpad Thank you for the excellent review! Are you sure Max patching or programming is needed to get into deep control mode with this pad, just because the pads events to send are fixed? Let's assume I use it to control Mobius - can't I simply use the eight page buttons to swap MIDI Configuration in Mobius and then send the same old MIDI events to call up a set of 64 new commands? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 18:42:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E17503BE7E; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:42:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:42:36 -0600 Subject: RE: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Thread-Topic: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? 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That seems to end up in a retail price just below =80250, which puts it in the same ballpark as e.g. the DD20, the RC20XL and the SMM w/Hazari. (For you US people: up to now, the DL4 was considerably more expensive than those in Europe.) So all you Europeans: if you don't have one already, perhaps now it's time to get a great delay modeler with a nice looper thrown in! Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 19:53:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A80D23BE7E; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=X07K7pnfqtv8lbXSdW3JAGLArR9t8gzaCqlIVv5Imjs=; b=in0L5IY/3AEArAvXM68MrWvJTcgaqrqaSXwtfl/5WcgqE2X2yKHLg68sitiU020H+g 3I75mthVEUVJxFZb9qEdDTeDz8g3dC85HBpVCjFmRdNTxy9WnpgZIunqmXcceSk7rxld sz+E4GsY3DlGK8o0FSpNK+c1eV67wxNhGuaNI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VFp2LVKV/1RV8JM8x8Mxr5JrB1eq3bm8aFsOxpiN42QRoJNlSp/oxPY/B0peDOrrz8 YvN8HAMPLh16Agu/wXzYZn4P1pJCzvP/tNxVXer6r+GFZWC+nK9m0t/Gk7y49p4QyQaA i0ObMFNW6rwEhIC6V1qSGmitIkDYQRg2nG5Xk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:53:41 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0911041153j67a7d1fcu9a0ad0a4eacd6e1a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-z0VbC.A.pvE.Gvd8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Jeff, That's really interesting. Have you used an Akai APC40? Do you know if it addresses any of the Launchpad's limitations or if it has different ones. They seem similar just because of that grid of lit buttons that looks like the Session view in ableton. On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Jeff Larson wr= ote: > I just received a Novation Launchpad and thought some of you might be > > interested in some technical details. > > > > It works fine with Live, I won't go into detail on that since I'm more > > interested in using it with other applications, but if I were a heavy > > Live user I would definitely get one. > > > > It speaks normal MIDI so with some work it can be used with other > > applications.=A0 If you have Novation's Automap utility you can do some > > basic mapping of pads to plugin parameters but to get the most out of > > it you will need to write code or Max/MSP patches to control it. > > > > It's about 10 inches square and 1/2 inch thick.=A0 Build quality is > > okay, the case is plastic but it feels solid enough.=A0 If you dropped > > it it would probably survive.=A0 It has to sit on a table, there is no > > stand socket on the bottom. > > > > The pads are smaller than on most drum pad controllers like the > > Trigger Finger, less than an inch square.=A0 They are not velocity > > sensitive which makes this of limited use as a drum controller. > > Pressing a pad produces a soft "click" that you can feel but not hear. > > This let's you know the button has been engaged but I found it > > slightly annoying. > > > > The pictures and most of the videos make it look like the default > > state of the buttons are bright white but they're not.=A0 When a button > > is off, it has a slightly translucent dull grey color which is not > > that bad but not nearly as pretty as it looks in pictures.=A0 Under each > > pad are two LEDs one green and one red.=A0 These can be set to one of > > three shades (low, medium, and high) and combined to produce shades of > > yellow and orange.=A0 They don't do white. > > > > In theory you have 16 shades available for each button (4 states > > squared).=A0 In practice many of the shades that combine red and green > > are so slightly different that they can't be used as static > > indicators.=A0 You can use them to show "movement" by cycling through > > the shades, you'll see the difference when they change.=A0 But for > > buttons that just glow one color it's hard to tell the difference > > between "Red Low + Green Low" and "Red Low + Green Medium".=A0 Also > > there is variance in the brightness of the leds from pad to pad so > > when combining them to make yellow it looks quite "splotchy", some are > > very yellow and others look like pale green. > > > > So in practice I found around 6 or 7 really distinct shades that could > > be used as static indicators.=A0 The rest could be used to make > > pulsating lightshows like the Kaoss pad.=A0 Overall I was a bit > > disappointed in the colors, it is not as pretty as the videos or the > > picture on the box, but hey the price is still reasonable. > > > > It is not programmable.=A0 It only sends a fixed set of MIDI notes for > > each pad and CC's for the buttons along the top.=A0 All are on channel 1 > > and this cannot be changed.=A0 So if you want to combine this with MIDI > > from another source, say an FCB1010, you'll have to reprogram the FCB > > to send on a different channel, or do channel mapping in software. > > > > The videos make it look like it has "pages" for example in Mixer mode > > there is a page for volume control, one for pan, etc.=A0 This is all > > done in Live.=A0 The Launchpad itself doesn't change what notes the pads > > send when you select page buttons, the application has to watch for > > the page buttons and dynamically change note mappings to do different > > things. > > > > For example, in the demo for controlling track levels, each column of > > pads acts like a "fader".=A0 The pads light up from the bottom to > > whatever pad you press, press the top pad and the fader is all the way > > up, press a pad in the center and the fader is around halfway up, etc. > > The hardware is not magically converting this into CC7 for the > > application, it's just sending notes and it is up to the application > > to respond to them and turn the other lights in the column on or > > off.=A0 This is why with Automap you can't do much with this besides > > trigger things.=A0 There are no knobs and the virtual faders are a > > trick supported only by Live. > > > > So in summary, if you're a Max hacker or write your own applications, > > it is possible to do everything Live does and more but it will take > > some work.=A0=A0 This will work well for controlling Mobius since > > the architecture is fairly close to Live.=A0 But the fun part > > will be making pulsating light shows :) > > > > Jeff > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 20:33:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 969D33BE78; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vopYV6kLsoqELSmk1GQqVsxPs0/uo+y0FN/b1fDRdss=; b=VSzAUgFKtk2KQflwQxRM9pbt3j9cA6ulxAYFe1KZwphOyQSulG+iDjOTld/OIS6MR2 c7ySnBwoDw6qxeptjdAkeJUHLnFHWph1bknKu9Lofx4Xb3OzOEkh+klIu6sTNgeRFV40 GpN3M7wl16MlV8kHAa7Py3xA2F83uI1gsd4Vc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=qQDXrcRFyXeK2b2ul4VcCU+CSMpXdueyyAOAfwK8HOQpXBeVh4NUTgzNgO3F6v8g1a y+noG9SPeHxmOz8RmeARRol4dhISMTKDpkqjKGSB3hmeIGcNFu5miBNIK7iDCHLQrA0h se/V0URmrrVugHX8gkyHRwy6mcRzlU9NlH/js= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:33:28 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c7bcd8b650d083b3 Message-ID: <101191640911041233y7762ca67s930cbd4fe207a0a2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:33:34 +0000 (UTC) so, presumably every performer at y2k9 knows which ustream video, if any, they are on. how about posting that info here? I'd like to see the sets that I missed, but wading through all the clips is a problem... also, is there any way to download a clip? Some of the links on the "show page" seem to be not loading. I'm wondering how long ustream will keep them up there (or exist, for that matter) - I'd like to obtain an archival copy of my set. here's the link to the clip I'm in - I'm about 6 minutes in: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2375291 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 20:52:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E28323BE77; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <101191640911041233y7762ca67s930cbd4fe207a0a2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:52:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:52:24 +0000 (UTC) I have all of the original video directly from the camera from Saturday night after dinner and all of Sunday. Unfortunately, I don't have the original video from Saturday during the day. I have not had a opportunity to go through the original video and chop it up. If somebody wants to volunteer to do that, I'd be happy to convert the video to MPEG and send it to you. Probably the best thing to do is put the MPEG files on DVD and mail them because that many hours of video will be rather large. --- Bob Amstadt Looperlative Audio Products (408) 921-LOOP > also, is there any way to download a clip? Some of the links on the > "show page" seem to be not loading. I'm wondering how long ustream > will keep them up there (or exist, for that matter) - I'd like to > obtain an archival copy of my set. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 21:28:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B45F23BE78; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257370124; bh=4PBabhXrP+YVUo3mDFIFrrveI0ISn1GT+B6qhcdGW/A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DxxHWJ7Vi+cpGR8hApFjSloqe10XxtN3KovKR754Ile/lyrp1Fa1knkS9+fE97oG5doIhlXD41XGcHWg+YjyPP8jowgt5od/Fs+7iYka4mkejHM5R5hqzAE1ulsKq/0WvDz7wRRUPk9z/nuVIk2kjxWsi8s/G60rAWIqep9/ILo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vAf3dAjMnntG4b3Y7lJvetsS0QFgNGJ9d/zg4fclMyVyyuXESRqf2EZV8cF40HRjEB9Z21gW3+r7/545lXSZXEOIgvFONctBqVgSuAosXhDtwOBprwAlbCOpZcleP4Ayv0UUnK9ssyeSAHjiZsPJIyB41Tpq6/uzDJXIXcOjwOA=; Message-ID: <176351.49290.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: daarlRQVM1lSf6BZ.PiuF8w7SW2yDGfcKkoVjwSiYpxiWxh7Pp3uDnc4KW39q4VZNBgKkT3tE5B64eTEu_s3AzH.RU.0d1eJEckF4_XvRYBvewXIHPuLDBelcLlPgH7HzNnOk7WN7idlQcVOtsEdcO8yHb9xcMxDRMsLwcWNJBo3XMfp5scrXwXI2LCWrCuacev1GLnRpXArZQOthD0LundwYv1zkBzJqYy4EswZWlTqDGGTfTyjp7TRWE5SC3K4b_sSZ_Bybob5o.zOmFTotX4jvw1P7GGQXErnWvi6HMyJgT7SH4BA4N.K79KHgdWFYtHPrnTkyCACsyRQU0brAh2hMoXKcoeV.nE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:28:44 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: Line6 Europe reduces price for DL4 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0911041138k64ee9691p2fb7a0c8edf01d19@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:28:45 +0000 (UTC) could that also be a sign of cease of production? i remember this was the c= ase with the EDP i bought back then a brand new one at Musicians friend for= 399.00dlls shortly after that they were gone forever!=0Athe m9 is nice but= there is something i still like about the DL4 maybe that green cadillac lo= ok=0Acheers=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Rainer Straschill <= moinsound@googlemail.com> schrieb am Mi, 4.11.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Rainer Stra= schill =0A> Betreff: Line6 Europe reduces price f= or DL4=0A> An: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Mittwoch, 4. = November 2009, 11:38=0A> Line6 Europe announced in their=0A> newsletter a p= rice reduction of 20% on the DL4.=0A> =0A> That seems to end up in a retail= price just below=C2=A0=0A> =E2=82=AC250, which puts it=0A> in the same bal= lpark as e.g. the DD20, the RC20XL and the=0A> SMM=0A> w/Hazari.=0A> =0A> (= For you US people: up to now, the DL4 was considerably=0A> more expensive= =0A> than those in Europe.)=0A> =0A> So all you Europeans: if you don't hav= e one already,=0A> perhaps now it's=0A> time to get a great delay modeler w= ith a nice looper thrown=0A> in!=0A> =0A> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Rainer=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 21:35:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A474C3BE7F; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:35:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:35:48 -0600 Subject: RE: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Thread-Topic: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Thread-Index: AcpdiIc7mAY0UEOFTK+m6arSiNUWbgACv05A Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A617@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586@barq.sailpoint.com> <588ce11d0911041153j67a7d1fcu9a0ad0a4eacd6e1a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0911041153j67a7d1fcu9a0ad0a4eacd6e1a@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <_RWyUB.A.pbC.3Of8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:35:51 +0000 (UTC) [Art] > Have you used an Akai APC40? Do you know if it addresses any of the > Launchpad's limitations or if it has different ones.=20 I haven't looked at it closely, and there isn't much on the web. The FAQ says it sends out normal MIDI messages over USB and is=20 non-programmable like the Launchpad. =20 The clip buttons look about the same, though I see some are blue so they may have more LEDs under them. I'm certain it has a similar MIDI note or CC protocol the application has to send to make the pads turn on. The knobs and faders make this a better all-around controller, of course it's twice the price of the Launchpad. If I didn't already have several fader/knob controllers I would have considered this. For Mobius the knobs and faders should work now. Making the pads light up would require special support. $400 is a little pricey for something I don't really need. Of course if someone were=20 to buy me one, APC40 support goes to the top of the=20 development list :-) Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 21:47:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 657C03BE79; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:47:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JXEDyi2ogKIAFgu2quHuINTUNFX/GiTnIevEnOxxMVM=; b=MEYnyirYY3P9fk/ntc1fakLTJth/pHwBGiaJtZtR+h0lUTobpyU5MMcUMzMkeTTNMy 9f+AKgVLpW57JwG1ut07pK3wIAYkDNGxQxrRTxS40ZwDpfRtbsxwaYVZrIyRzK3ptx1o 4e/Q8LT0oM9hLr2UomsNnIkK4FrWypnTJBS6A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=D/rAjzfJFUganz/AkgDloYkxQDhxuBN33equ139BEPSIuejBUSvNYe9NtdDeNa8IRO /oDPU0R4IPwxUlEVQyl4HW7ew5Rq0NMu6GdOQ8KKzlvhJq1Xpk4DaiycHvSSYln6lptC e2o8PksuyDu4Km790OIDDnaMHVd3uVlmmHGhQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> References: <101191640911041233y7762ca67s930cbd4fe207a0a2@mail.gmail.com> <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:47:35 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 537d837c0f299f12 Message-ID: <101191640911041347w7c647b2fmbbae7e9dc8695821@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0aodkC.A.7CD.Haf8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:47:52 +0000 (UTC) would i be able to do that with iMovie on the mac? i haven't done much with it, but i'd be willing to do the chop-up. On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: > I have all of the original video directly from the camera from Saturday > night after dinner and all of Sunday. =A0Unfortunately, I don't have the > original video from Saturday during the day. =A0I have not had a opportun= ity > to go through the original video and chop it up. =A0If somebody wants to > volunteer to do that, I'd be happy to convert the video to MPEG and send = it > to you. =A0Probably the best thing to do is put the MPEG files on DVD and= mail > them because that many hours of video will be rather large. > > --- > Bob Amstadt > Looperlative Audio Products > (408) 921-LOOP > >> also, is there any way to download a clip? Some of the links on the >> "show page" seem to be not loading. I'm wondering how long ustream >> will keep them up there (or exist, for that matter) - I'd like to >> obtain an archival copy of my set. > > --=20 Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Nov 4 21:54:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 399293BE77; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <101191640911041233y7762ca67s930cbd4fe207a0a2@mail.gmail.com> <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> <101191640911041347w7c647b2fmbbae7e9dc8695821@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:53:53 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <6jmv2C.A.OaD.8ff8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:54:04 +0000 (UTC) Warren, I don't know anything about iMovie, but I'd be happy to send you the files if you would like to give it a try. --- Bob Amstadt Looperlative Audio Products (408) 921-LOOP From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 00:12:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1543D3BE78; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:12:00 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Max For Live.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Public BetaTest Program for Max For Live has been announced: http://www.ableton.com/maxforlive/beta Production release is scheduled for a November 23 rollout. --m. -- _____ "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of murder... later" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 00:18:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9962C3BE79; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:18:43 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: RE: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:18:49 +0000 (UTC) At 12:42 PM -0600 11/4/09, Jeff Larson wrote: > > Are you sure Max patching or programming is needed to get into deep >> control mode with this pad, just because the pads events to send >> are fixed? > >It would depend the application you're controlling. In your example, >yes you could use the top 8 buttons to select different Mobius MIDI >configurations that remap the grid buttons to do different things. You may also find some interesting and helpful resources on programming the Launchpad in this article from CDMu: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/11/02/novation-releases-all-midi-details-for-launchpad/ It outlines the MIDI spec for exactly what the Launchpad is sending. There's also a link to a Monome emulator (the Nonome) that has already been ported to work with the Launchpad. --m. -- _____ "beyond this window, night is shuddering and the earth grinds to a halt beyond this window, something unknown is watching you and me...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 00:23:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2500C3BE77; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 391 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:23:06 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A5A1@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A586@barq.sailpoint.com> <66f9cc1e0911041030h348b6f4eo6c1261f24b0e1488@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AA2A5A1@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:16:29 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: RE: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:23:07 +0000 (UTC) At 12:42 PM -0600 11/4/09, Jeff Larson wrote: > > Are you sure Max patching or programming is needed to get into deep >> control mode with this pad, just because the pads events to send >> are fixed? > >It would depend the application you're controlling. In your example, >yes you could use the top 8 buttons to select different Mobius MIDI >configurations that remap the grid buttons to do different things. You may also find some interesting and helpful resources on programming the Launchpad in this article from CDMu: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/11/02/novation-releases-all-midi-details-for-launchpad/ It outlines the MIDI spec for exactly what the Launchpad is sending. There's also a link to a Monome emulator (the Nonome) that has already been ported to work with the Launchpad. --m. -- _____ "beyond this window, night is shuddering and the earth grinds to a halt beyond this window, something unknown is watching you and me...." 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Yours faithfully Mr. Don Newman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 00:56:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AAE03BE7E; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JlJT/iIUUyZUUryUAYfhEyxt3aRNfgXio3faTMmilM0=; b=lR0GD8RcnaIMZLOD+0dUWeE0czHqTmtpUoiCPdxbrPtrhRhPJpnkng+9Jrd3fx5ozQ MVRUe/dB/itEAV9BUpH0JTq79AswDsnqiMnVm+IO8SEy7+9MToakCFi/5CNttedYWIlW UFcE3xK+SdH0++N9WNve5x4dzeBN4taydxgOM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZMdjlr8Jxz5UCD5L5FdI/UH3TlZR3nUVTCqfvKoyuxV9/qE9hPMKe9gj36pNzso9mW bCAS51uknc9auPewUnsax8cG5XOIrW/04RX5H3kof4pVAm0kOa9aOY1n7UYgj2MTRhm8 2KBPvpsTuzCqbVi9ViPUtJ8TZrQuXl/+ugiJc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:56:50 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0911041656o427b7ee3xd52e334659ffe7f9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Max For Live.... From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Woohoo! Thanks Mech, I've been waiting for this : ) On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Mech wrote: > Public BetaTest Program for Max For Live has been announced: > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.ableton.com/maxforlive/beta > > Production release is scheduled for a November 23 rollout. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--m. > -- > _____ > "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of murder... > later" > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 01:11:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A1353BE73; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 01:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <1BFB899F-EC9A-443D-BD2A-2A54BE9C5C67@zonemobius.com> From: Jeff Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:11:44 -0600 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - business.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 01:11:49 +0000 (UTC) > You may also find some interesting and helpful resources on programming > the Launchpad in this article from CDMu: These are excerpts from the Novation MIDI spec that has been available for awhile here: http://www.novationmusic.com/support/launchpad/ This is one significant difference between the Launchpad and the APC40, Akai has not yet released the details of it's MIDI protocol. People seem to be moaning about Akai not being "open" but it's actually rather trivial to reverse engineer the protocol. It sends and receives MIDI like anything else, all you have to do is put a message monitor between Live and the APC40 and watch what Live sends. If Akai doesn't publish it, someone will. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 02:16:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA25E3BE73; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 02:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CwCMt5nCxxkA:10 a=AhSRf1SojFb3WC9VEHEA:9 a=zsA7lElVKUZ_YD4E4TFZtwtKAAQA:4 Message-Id: <99BB3A4F-B4D0-45D8-B0D7-534A7B9A26BC@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:16:09 -0800 References: <101191640911041233y7762ca67s930cbd4fe207a0a2@mail.gmail.com> <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 02:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Shucks. I guess that means the little bit of my set (in 2 pieces) is just what is up there on Ustream. Oh well. Thanks for doing all that you did Bob. Probably no one would want to see it again anyway. On Nov 4, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: > I have all of the original video directly from the camera from > Saturday night after dinner and all of Sunday. Unfortunately, I > don't have the original video from Saturday during the day. I have > not had a opportunity to go through the original video and chop it > up. If somebody wants to volunteer to do that, I'd be happy to > convert the video to MPEG and send it to you. Probably the best > thing to do is put the MPEG files on DVD and mail them because that > many hours of video will be rather large. > > --- > Bob Amstadt > Looperlative Audio Products > (408) 921-LOOP > >> also, is there any way to download a clip? Some of the links on the >> "show page" seem to be not loading. I'm wondering how long ustream >> will keep them up there (or exist, for that matter) - I'd like to >> obtain an archival copy of my set. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 04:17:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A38A33BE78; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AF251B9.6070906@soundscapes.us> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:16:57 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Mailing List Subject: Rejoined LD After a Short Hiatus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Greetings, I was away at Different Skies. Almost as soon as I returned home, I went to electro-music where I met Kris. It was great to finally meet and have some nice conversations. electro-music is a sensory overload so I was unable to hear Kris play. But I have the feeling that we'll meet again. Now that I'm home from these two festivals, I've rejoined LD. On Thursday 11/5, Steve Jolliffe (ex-Tangerine Dream) will do a live set on Galactic Travels so please do tune in. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 04:18:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 444BF3BE78; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QpBdStC0qtmL4oPm3fRRY8qQPKDZFvPlftnq2QQLLnU=; b=VCrJyVsYyEkrjI7i+5XGEBr5afys5Ee4AVXvBWuKToK83RLlsSksm5gGdjjX7Mj3Jv wV1rSiEMjFY421tb61I7mpyLG/0InJXr2+1vrDWoqKgmr5rDQe2dHHqFAZT+mVoBsP6M /QSs8370HqCyQhSKfcIZvmJIIFCTpFQMWqy4k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RHwNyxaPcxYKqUMfqVq4Hdpsb4J6aN0fUDh2N8JADOfIw/VdoUkUjUe7TNBbQEpQu7 y2Q+n61iQ6XfWt9Zg+Uq45xomL4e7BglQy1O99l99nS70bL3qGT2vNwQIEQkFzixcbf6 z/iUhq4pgvnrls6c9HO3JbA6Bs+hW0wfkqhw0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <99BB3A4F-B4D0-45D8-B0D7-534A7B9A26BC@charter.net> References: <101191640911041233y7762ca67s930cbd4fe207a0a2@mail.gmail.com> <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> <99BB3A4F-B4D0-45D8-B0D7-534A7B9A26BC@charter.net> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:18:36 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0911042018l47af6edbiccdb2e41c061b15a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:18:38 +0000 (UTC) The only way to capture off of ustream that I know is to use the free program jing: http://www.jingproject.com/ You have to navigate to the ustream page and select the region of the screen you want to capture. It's a time consuming real time process, so if anybody wanted to make the original videos available (Warren? Thank you!) It would be a big favor and much appreciated. -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 04:22:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 283BC3BE7C; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:22:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.37.166.12] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <4AF251B9.6070906@soundscapes.us> In-Reply-To: <4AF251B9.6070906@soundscapes.us> Subject: Re: Rejoined LD After a Short Hiatus Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:22:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2009 04:22:26.0434 (UTC) FILETIME=[947D6620:01CA5DCF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:22:29 +0000 (UTC) Hey Bill! It was great seeing you, Kevin, and many others. What a beautiful location that was. BTW, I recorded me and Robert Sterling's set. Kribophoric (me on alto flute, laptop, max/msp, and reaktor; Robert on electronic percussion) http://www.box.net/shared/ut9m22e51e Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Fox" To: "Loopers Delight Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:16 PM Subject: Rejoined LD After a Short Hiatus > Greetings, > > I was away at Different Skies. Almost as soon as I returned home, I went > to electro-music where I met Kris. It was great to finally meet and have > some nice conversations. electro-music is a sensory overload so I was > unable to hear Kris play. But I have the feeling that we'll meet again. > Now that I'm home from these two festivals, I've rejoined LD. On Thursday > 11/5, Steve Jolliffe (ex-Tangerine Dream) will do a live set on Galactic > Travels so please do tune in. > > Cheers, > > Bill > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 05:14:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BABA3BE79; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9p1nome8wFu7+Ofu+oraVcDJ+HbiZsJwR89vgwpzdIk=; b=bNvUCuceT85LTU8DvVmoHd1HQXLiRqucoLVEYHoLfPD9ZXBEm6Vzkr3csph8t63HpE JBwW9sPnxt7+a3fuCp23xxAraiYgNHOwcOjh7rBGSxaOYTvdwHOptPEvyqDoO76Vywn+ lmYokJXjSktVAwhvosqKQLKdLAZpF3GyPeFyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IzqwIU7J66od6U55nWoqJKL9N5LEccLL58g+v88zByLBi6Iqf+gGP6kKcZbuPZqu7f 5OIFovdLRz8u/6Cixv183HfxS+Gn9Gq/1PBGycrjZD6MHN7YKbuEy6tTAOOKU2UBIfUT IpSw0LAbTW+zhkwnG2PsbYUPhV2r9pVfmwDs8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <006e01ca5d6e$c3475c60$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <66f9cc1e0911040857y5157f755x78ddfa7da2cbb703@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:14:08 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110911042114hc51ca9cw654021fa61c91b63@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: eigenharp roadshow From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64b95e00548d9047798ccef Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:14:09 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64b95e00548d9047798ccef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ummmm, gnu/Linux support? ;) Actually, my question is not entirely facetious, as one of the company founders is a Linux user and advocate. So if you can find out any info about Linux support, I'd appreciate it. -michael On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Os wrote: > I seem to be giving this link a lot today :) > > http://www.eigenlabs.com/software/ > > "Windows software support expected January 2010." > > > os. > > --0016e64b95e00548d9047798ccef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ummmm, gnu/Linux support? ;)

Actually, my question is not entirely f= acetious, as one of the company founders is a Linux user and advocate. So i= f you can find out any info about Linux support, I'd appreciate it.

-michael

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 2:05 = AM, Os <os@coll= ective.co.uk> wrote:
I seem to be giving this link a lot today :)

http://www= .eigenlabs.com/software/

"Windows software support expected January 2010."


os.

--0016e64b95e00548d9047798ccef-- From poste@poste.it Thu Nov 5 05:32:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 743 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:32:51 UTC Received: from mail.sstac.co.uk (mail.sstac.co.uk [87.74.30.41]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DE63BE6F; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:32:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([213.41.247.150]) by mail.sstac.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:15:44 +0000 From: "Poste.it" Subject: Il tuo account è stato accreditato 350 EURO Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:20:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2009 05:15:45.0046 (UTC) FILETIME=[0702DB60:01CA5DD7] To: undisclosed-recipients:; G R U P O S I C U R E Z Z A http://www.poste.it From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 05:58:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4D6E3BE7C; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:58:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1257400715; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=HI3btYQXJ79rzN5GtfQIKXe49iI=; b=edMl3NZz3cKLCFnOSTCv4zAdSI8LzuRfv5edj+PRJPZTXzxDrpmCZ7mXc6PuMn5x CzH+k6rIKYv0O8Rvq7gdDPIeWclzNrNZP+HXInO67oIS9wHPL8LQ5XjC7mtXRKix; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CwCMt5nCxxkA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=50eUEdfVAAAA:8 a=x1h96kkja5-Uwtoi0xMA:9 a=18MRd_gfolfHnZuNo5wA:7 a=X93IRgqx1flT44TD0QoGgy1BNVUA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001001ca5ddd$026e7770$4d832245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <101191640911041233y7762ca67s930cbd4fe207a0a2@mail.gmail.com> <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> <99BB3A4F-B4D0-45D8-B0D7-534A7B9A26BC@charter.net> <588ce11d0911042018l47af6edbiccdb2e41c061b15a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 00:58:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:58:35 +0000 (UTC) As far as I know the only way to download Ustream videos is by the owner of the show which probably is Bob or someone he authorizes. He can download them in flash video flv files. They (Ustream) keep saying that they are going to make more formats available but not so far. My 2 cents of experience.. best, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Simon" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:18 PM Subject: Re: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link > The only way to capture off of ustream that I know is to use the free > program jing: > http://www.jingproject.com/ > > You have to navigate to the ustream page and select the region of the > screen you want to capture. It's a time consuming real time process, > so if anybody wanted to make the original videos available (Warren? > Thank you!) It would be a big favor and much appreciated. > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 07:29:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0FD13BE78; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:29:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=fxTvXxheOBKOXE6nmvRIn7JuFCt11ByajocU6P1YHoM=; b=EaelmDjJ6kiTBrB7joeXJQrFaCKfkxtvCHjM+qXFAZdNCA8IVxtiiQXhy8k+vRf7UO VDgwMPLDwGLp6WxxZzVQj5du/PCob8OjB0zpxPAGE3ymBRZZcPQaJcddQJaxOTS7TSd0 XMR2wMx6Mrzu7ThJlZlhuVmptEL4BtFu38hbY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=pbeFgl00RNV/QE6JigWYNvltX2qpqlgEW1BLUeu4/HNZkQUisel5EwV2BDY52X4BwG SdvBw6nBJu85fXXYOKxZ6mLuIWxNmBysobssrnnTgc7+Mr3EuPiSV50p52nYJPCerfqb 2vZP/vFXCkCEtgIv4Ze4WPHxYtgmYcbif4ge8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 02:29:10 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60911042329u489d5ef6k6b1627cbcade53bd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Videos - recent Chinapainting and friend's session From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174785f2eeda1904779aae3c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:29:11 +0000 (UTC) --0015174785f2eeda1904779aae3c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chinapainting was recently on a west coast mini tour with shows in northern and southern California including Loopfest as several of you know who we go= t to see. This is video from our show in Venice at Beyond Baroque. http://www.vimeo.com/7437217 The Venice show was a shared bill with GE Stinson/Steuart Liebig. I posted their set a few days ago but here's the link again as it's timely with the posting of our's. http://www.vimeo.com/7209064 I'm going to start to work later today on a video of the folks I was able to document at Loopfest on Saturday the 17th. It will be a sampler akin to Michael's and if all goes well will be up ove= r the weekend. Lastly another collaboration of mine is with multi-instrumentalist Peter Thorn, a musician from Sweden. Several of you got to hear Peter as part of our VSV sets a few weeks back. This is a collaborative project of Peter's that he sent me a link on. I'll mention his bandmates as I think they are all local to Sweden and Per and others from that region may know these folks. Roger Sundstr=F6m Guitar, Fredrik Mikalsen Bass et.c and Peter Th= =F6rn Sax et.c. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWsu0S-BAw7M&feature=3Drelated. = neat stuff here. Jim --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0015174785f2eeda1904779aae3c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chinapainting was recently on a west coast mini tour with shows in northern= and southern California including Loopfest as several of you know who we g= ot to see. =A0This is video from our show in Venice at Beyond Baroque. =A0<= a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/7437217">http://www.vimeo.com/7437217
The Venice show= was a shared bill with GE Stinson/Steuart Liebig. =A0I posted their set a = few days ago but here's the link again as it's timely with the post= ing of our's. =A0http://www.vi= meo.com/7209064

I'm go= ing to start to work later today on a video of the folks I was able to docu= ment at Loopfest on Saturday the 17th. =A0It will be a sampler akin to Mich= ael's and if all goes well will be up over the weekend.

Lastly another collaboration of mine is with multi-inst= rumentalist Peter Thorn, a musician from Sweden. =A0Several of you got to h= ear Peter as part of our VSV sets a few weeks back. =A0This is a collaborat= ive project of Peter's that he sent me a link on. =A0I'll mention h= is bandmates as I think they are all local to Sweden and Per and others fro= m that region may know these folks. =A0Roger Sundstr=F6m Guitar, Fredrik M= ikalsen Bass et.c =A0and Peter Th=F6rn Sax et.c. =A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= =3DWsu0S-BAw7M&feature=3Drelated. =A0neat stuff here.=

Jim=
--0015174785f2eeda1904779aae3c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 10:11:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1782E3BE78; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #39505143 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+gTXUUeB6g0f/NL3p0ZH7KV487L8DnMvrzoOkkPQ QSx6KRPvI4Ssb+ Message-ID: <4AF2A4D4.8030505@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:11:32 +0100 From: Nadia Salom User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? References: <1BFB899F-EC9A-443D-BD2A-2A54BE9C5C67@zonemobius.com> In-Reply-To: <1BFB899F-EC9A-443D-BD2A-2A54BE9C5C67@zonemobius.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.71 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:11:35 +0000 (UTC) I also just got one of those! It's so awesome and I could use it right away. I don't know how to program but it seems to be just fine for what I am doing. Jeff Larson schrieb: > > > You may also find some interesting and helpful resources on programming > > the Launchpad in this article from CDMu: > > These are excerpts from the Novation MIDI spec that has been available > for awhile here: > > http://www.novationmusic.com/support/launchpad/ > > This is one significant difference between the Launchpad and the > APC40, Akai has not yet released the details of it's MIDI protocol. > > People seem to be moaning about Akai not being "open" but it's > actually rather trivial to reverse engineer the protocol. It sends > and receives MIDI like anything else, all you have to do is put > a message monitor between Live and the APC40 and watch what Live sends. > If Akai doesn't publish it, someone will. > > Jeff > -- Nadia Salom http://www.nirmala07.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 12:19:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A81B93BE7C; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Vo9u/yJvoYFa1LdduZoXPGK39jcYIyYCyqOv41Vf5965Pht03lfMAoqAfdWTK3pETFE507cW3NAASWVFgYzUBv+3yPc8DonwOFKdF3ogJn++FZtTNH0JdPL0T5hPdz43u0U0g4T+AdvquGlDjOTlhA19ecUYUjWLHnnYWRYZOcs= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: 75CdczOswBChen.W3AbLhaW8TlC96TVo5w-- X-YMail-OSG: PYVMUTsVM1nYJEH3DtjjpEnbcFqD.FtYQaiq4R3Rd4MTMmGRkazkfYMWLlgANGXy3EZuzjVUIZLx6_lingud9.upCK2zpGhWDO4NjVEvBtcz4iMFYCDFml.Daa9iWpQAwRCF6189x7Zo.zR2Ehn7hkhLETjLcReN9n_t2LpLHzsz.4Jq7yX4I7yCdk.WzssHqMiBl2WJAUUtDnVGXDyQf6.SKXl2N1EGjam9e7NWvVOdGThqCw55fRyppxRJSQTJFDjXGU_2iB3XsopEGw780ISXP4Krn3p0AUwwN8.7EZ3d6K1zUXFyUBvpq54bk8HaGmNwYThJYyU5Kx8zPI_d1qHFewOKUIClMK5KS44_2V4X3XadQz6.FikcUNJNMy5nYPM3oDzy1D.S0_HywWosx263uHWDemJs0LakPB7vqh8eqaLh4SCz3X5qgEBDTk.j448r3sPLOes1zJs.nT5Gtu8AYJbOCuRRjrxxkBFE_Xs7nyZT7JI- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <007e01ca5e12$00874dd0$3492a8c0@voo.intra> From: "Ruelle Benoit" To: Subject: POK:wireless foot controller - Korg microsampler as a looper Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:17:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <5qMQHC.A.P1G.MLs8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Hello, Here's something I came accross today: It's a wireless foot controller that may be useful for some. It is not midi but works with recorded keyboard keys (double "click" and fn+click seems supported). The site says also that you can remotely load different profiles. see this video for more info: http://www.x-tempozone.com/demos/Elements/7_programming.mov ---- Another thing: I got my korg microsampler last week. I've been busy and hadn't tested everything but I would like to share my firsts impressions. For the general working please see this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLpejsMlI2I I must say that I'm very happy with this kb except for some things (see below). It features 2 modes, sample mode (a bank of 3 octaves of single sound/loop up to 160sec at 48k) and keyboard mode (you select one of the sample to play it chromatically). There is a pattern sequencer (16 patterns per bank, up to 99 measures). It uses 2 midi channels: one for the keyboard part, one for the sample bank. If a key is not used in sample mode, it plays the key above at the corrected pitch. So in fact there a "disguised" keyboard mode in sample mode. Every thing sync (or not) to the given (tap) tempo or to the midi clock. It is really live oriented, you can sample while the sequencer or another loop is running. You can thus use it as a basic multitrack recorder. If you have a sequence running (let say playing a BD and a snare drum), you can resample on the "BD key" and replace it on the fly (the EDP replace). Nice! In resample mode (using the internal sound generator as the source, not the external in) you can even resample on the key you are playing. Let say you have a bass drum (1 sec.) on key c3, you can resample a 4/4 loop (4 sec) on the same key by playing the c3 key live. You can sequence and gate the inputs, nice for gate effects. Using the "key gate" mode (the sampling occurs when a key is pressed down ON the key which is pressed), you can do multisampling easily, just connect the midi out to your expander and the audio from you expander. In 5 seconds you can have a multisampled bank. The time streching is OK (like on the KP3, better than on Roland stuff) , you can use either a pitch change (slow down) or the timestretching to stay sync to the clock. In this latter case, the polyphony is divided by 2. There is a looper on the FX list (rec/play/overdub) but limited to one bar. Can it be used as a looper? Well yes and no. You can use it like a KP3 (see beardy man for instance) and you may need some preparation. The problem #1:when a loop has been sampled it is not playing immediately. I tried to use the sequencer to trigger a loop every bar and it kind of works but if you don't start the sequencing on the 1st beat (but a bit after), after the sampling ends the loop is not playing during a bar (as the note-on has already been issued). This bring on the second problem: problem#2: it is not possible to trigger the sample using midi or the sequencer. It is a pity the key gat mode can't use a midi IN note-on. It would have allowed to use my fcb1010 or an external keyboard to trigger the sampling start and/or use the sequencer to start the sequencing on the first beat. I need some more time with it but it's fun to use anyway. At least I can quickly use my DSI mopho (monophonic synth) in polyphony using the quick multisampling method. Ben. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 12:51:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 675783BE79; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sw6FnTsu0A6qC4a118kViL/VvpNmyZELNZxQqFoMSIw=; b=VUdkF6NWXJaFPFsZNWIPB4UR0c1tbjwNwzxP6ZUdunAnHBwzJDwZUk3LZs54Bib98F 92GQbjVwX9eqpC7YZ0059nrT92ha1WZKanHJtaJWbD2MnRlCrlZV73rS6BSZh+MFkPLy mjBU4C2qt+Q95LLGbY39+ME0Hq3y2Fk1g5aIM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=IUgE6arQah6Ws3f8xYAgFAakLGXdT1tcU8lbrP8tQ6klIHJXBZq30mnt/Wk1ZX7pxY lJrHMge35n2PccP3/kp1JlBsNanJt1jc8d4jrSs6hI9/NlqCts1qkWSNYMUg/ybMwpk4 +n5qtbxazhipM5267vcNZ5oRI2mAygPPsWBKw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4AF2A4D4.8030505@gmx.de> References: <1BFB899F-EC9A-443D-BD2A-2A54BE9C5C67@zonemobius.com> <4AF2A4D4.8030505@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:43:05 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0911050443l512e0e30sb26305f5bdc0e389@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 12:51:22 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Nadia Salom wrote: > I also just got one of those! It's so awesome and I could use it right away. > I don't know how to program but it seems to be just fine for what I am > doing. Lucky you! :-) BTW, you can't program them, they have a fixed output. You will have to program whatever is receiving the MIDI at the other end of the cable. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 13:22:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3C173BE78; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0911041656o427b7ee3xd52e334659ffe7f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <588ce11d0911041656o427b7ee3xd52e334659ffe7f9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:22:13 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Max For Live.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:22:22 +0000 (UTC) At 4:56 PM -0800 11/4/09, Art Simon wrote: >On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Mech wrote: > > > > Public BetaTest Program for Max For Live has been announced: > >Woohoo! Thanks Mech, I've been waiting for this : ) De nada! Now download it and go make something cool!!! :D --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 13:37:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D90AE3BE7F; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:37:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:37:40 -0800 Subject: FS: Lots of Pedals and more... From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:37:43 +0000 (UTC) A. Boss AutoWah AW-2. $55 Like new in box. B. Line6 FM4 Filter/guitar synth modeler. $160 Great condition. Does all sorts of autowah and filtering as well as mono guitar synth sounds. Stereo in/out and CV in to make it a Wah, etc. C. Korg G5 Synth Bass Processor $225 Awesome 90s Silver floor unit. selectable waveforms including voice. Cutoff and resonance knobs, etc. VERY sweet for guitar and keys too. D. Ibanez Weeping Demon wah $65 - Like new in box w/all papers. Extremely versitle wah with settings and options galore. E. Ibanez AFL autofilter - $75 - unique filter sound for an autowah (Jerry Garcia favored this series) LP/BP and *sliders* for control plus lo/hi settings for ultra flexibilty. In GREAT shape. F. Vintage MXR Dynacomp (block logo) - $110 - Not reissue, the real deal. G. Heathkit 60s FuZZZ! $200. Controls are "distortion" Boost" as well as two way toggle to add more bass to the signal. Sweet 60s germanium hand wired goodness. H. Boss CS-2 Compressor - $75- old standby, MIJ OOP. good shape. I. Tech21 Bass Compactor - $75 Versitile solid bass compressor. Perfect for live use or recording. with original box. J. Boutique DAED Disturbo DS-1 Filter/Synth-Fuzz/Distortion - $95 Modified Boss DS-1 pedal given new life and transformed into a processing machine. Self oscillating Theremin plus two OUT there filter settings. Now with Superbright Orange 5mm LED. K. Ibanez TS5/TS9 modified to original TS9 specs with socketed and upgraded 4558 chip, etc. Flip a switch and it's a Circuit Bent Synth with Mods by DAED - $55 5mm GREEN LED installed A VERY versatile pedal and one of one. Buyer pays shipping and paypal fees. I also accept USPS MO or pickup in Phila PA. Prices are fair but will consider reasonable offers especially if you pickup or buy multiple items. Some Pics and more info: http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/Salez/FS.htm Thanks! ---------------------------------------- Now Available for Purchase with Demos online: The DAED FEEDBACK SYNTHESIZER DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com/daed.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 14:02:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FDC13BE7F; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:02:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:02:42 -0800 Subject: FS: Chimera BC16, MFOS Soundlab From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:02:42 +0000 (UTC) Still cleaning out a few items I no longer use since I moved to more DIY things. Lowered the price on the Soundlab to $325. 1. Chimera Synthesis BC16 - $350. As new, I only had to wait a little over a year. Web site still lists these but read the archive for realistic delivery. Comes with the tiny patch cables and I taped a legend of the controls in the center which makes it MUCH more intuitive. http://www.chimerasynthesis.com/#/bc16-patchable-synth/4529526548 2. MFOS Soundlab made by Blue lantern with mods. PRICE REDUCED:$325. This has the timing mod as well as fine tune for each VCO, cross mod, and a few other goodies. I added an internal PS (no wall wart), Trigger button for env, and blue LED to match the cool plexiglass faceplate. 3. Zvex Fuzz Face pedal built into a EURO module. PRICE REDUCED $125. Real original Zvex FF with one width euro faceplate and Doepfer PS. VERY cool module and obviously one of one. Buyer can pickup or pay shipping from Phila PA. USPS MO or Paypal (will split fees). I think prices are very fair but if you think otherwise and can make a quick and reasonable offer let me know. Pickup and more than one item purchased get more consideration. Some pics here: http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/Salez/FS.htm ---------------------------------------- Now Available for Purchase with Demos online: The DAED FEEDBACK SYNTHESIZER DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com/daed.htm -- ---------------------------------------- Now Available for Purchase with Demos online: The DAED FEEDBACK SYNTHESIZER DAED: Circuit Bent and Unusual Sound Devices "Making Something Extrodinary from the Ordinary" Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com/daed.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 14:07:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48D4A3BE7E; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Grn8a6AFf6aPnCzdROA7NsEPnubDZymhCDrZhAQvdko=; b=DEUoJd9TQks5TxBLfuTUkEMorHrVdU+4NwPQyjqWHpJFjCzClzJu176ZacO/ACCLCg 4PpnvcbNX80ORgU67idxsdmnlzQP4BdhltGuKl5hWg3WhhKwtC1OJprNXzi1p6jeUKUu 8kD00aFuznz4mo5aD765SSWbJqQJGLshMewHc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=SJfrZXNLqtkK/sqM7E1uBqCH8IwVJy4mFSczzZN9azC1u1F4f5EMQ/yZpJFKrNIpGT DxS5YxHVGyjakMKXRlZUD6KYpsNDgrLOTackmKXMC+P9vC3rHt9z7Bnf0c/jPXjSyXWI lHdT7z0LXIiZruJx5RK4noBAN9VCNojpG+vKY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <001001ca5ddd$026e7770$4d832245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <101191640911041233y7762ca67s930cbd4fe207a0a2@mail.gmail.com> <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> <99BB3A4F-B4D0-45D8-B0D7-534A7B9A26BC@charter.net> <588ce11d0911042018l47af6edbiccdb2e41c061b15a@mail.gmail.com> <001001ca5ddd$026e7770$4d832245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:07:32 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 891e344fdcd955b0 Message-ID: <101191640911050607k4e8d82dbhffed941b8d0e205b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:07:35 +0000 (UTC) I'm going to send my address to Bob, have him send me a DVD with all the clips, and see what I can do with it. -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 14:20:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB3143BE73; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MAZcGoF/umKsUM8Jh5jn1gByybYRZ0ot3Qe8ensFUKg=; b=AahFcjm7U+827JZe0aw5MTqjFyVD2XiFEz7/Wk1JSa689R/BALvsukqcY2Q3GqzpQY ObFYx8DInifcts8ABYcAW9lR4K5TyFLJMe+2A/ocKkdjPyKccuEWKcG6mOPNyh8hE7dp Z1imVHjKv/6lMg0zZzRNN+opb2DnEal1Ja5FE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MGypQlVc77c947r+fBiq3TBKGEiAiXvFPsvSZSGRmgmWZedvyWSkgfjYjKqzQY7di2 RHltWIGbRdhfWvYoYhXzdmV6vZEcsiAdh5i/0a337rw3+Bcbomvl9qB2QmTzY7ibiLF4 jC2hscszBQeoU981YrcR99Onff5IMjGMkfi8c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> References: <101191640911041233y7762ca67s930cbd4fe207a0a2@mail.gmail.com> <37DF854388864C5FA542DFD14F564BD9@bobdell> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:20:25 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60911050620j3e59b84am49b123a87cb21459@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: y2k9 vid clips index - please post *your* set link From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Bob warren this may have a simpler solution. In that on ustream I found my afternoon session as well as those that followed, on the Loopfest channel that means to the account that Bob I'm assuming crteated, the videos are downloadable to that logon, atleast that's how mine works. Can yu either give that login to warren or to me as I'd like to pull down at least my set. Thx guys On 11/4/09, Bob Amstadt wrote: > I have all of the original video directly from the camera from Saturday > night after dinner and all of Sunday. Unfortunately, I don't have the > original video from Saturday during the day. I have not had a opportunity > to go through the original video and chop it up. If somebody wants to > volunteer to do that, I'd be happy to convert the video to MPEG and send it > to you. Probably the best thing to do is put the MPEG files on DVD and mail > them because that many hours of video will be rather large. > > --- > Bob Amstadt > Looperlative Audio Products > (408) 921-LOOP > >> also, is there any way to download a clip? Some of the links on the >> "show page" seem to be not loading. I'm wondering how long ustream >> will keep them up there (or exist, for that matter) - I'd like to >> obtain an archival copy of my set. > > -- Sent from my mobile device ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 16:26:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39B3D3BE79; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:26:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=IMfRkuZsyYlpUdTTXCMQqWb0O9aJKY70KR0aDVM4X7c=; b=BKRFC8oyijLfp9ER78LDW5ebP6Hv4OFIVFG6LGSV8HYc5OyuIGoOOIFjyXma0SXVd6 LAm+HWFBmOkqjuI05cToy51UsVpP2EXGvj1BSilrpSuYcu2mHI4OkFHH72FwVRudxAW6 b4dFDyCoo6HIMGPW89jSBYKi5hZ0WuiXRzJwQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=w/bNkuMhm9Il6ttCW7NSslNYIJ9sZyE8tPf8U9nHH4Cu6fk2j51NSaYdK7XKJaMd8m nV83LcCKz0j9KUt0aeGVdJnYoyk0AuEcEOOBN/cSwp/S2Fv0A62gZp7+ExM+HAMlLS1c Tew06gStI47Bu6keEqQLtwfk3tQ4uFb5oyyq4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:26:49 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0911050826gd077ecaif7771fa89c6f07d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:26:53 +0000 (UTC) What I don't get about this thing: In those screenshots, they use an 8x8 matrix to control e.g. levels for eight tracks. Does that mean that your volume levels are quantized to eight discrete values? And I remember people complaining that 128 wasn't enough... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 16:33:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DB5F3BE79; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Subject: Re: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? From: Mark Hamburg In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0911050443l512e0e30sb26305f5bdc0e389@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:33:25 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <1BFB899F-EC9A-443D-BD2A-2A54BE9C5C67@zonemobius.com> <4AF2A4D4.8030505@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e0911050443l512e0e30sb26305f5bdc0e389@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Will any of these work in conjunction with the Looperlative without a computer involved? Should I be wishing that Looperlative had USB rather than Ethernet (though since I think USB is directional that would require having a way to toggle the Looperlative's behavior if one wanted to also connect it to a computer)? Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 17:29:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18EC83BE77; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:29:30 -0600 Subject: RE: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Thread-Topic: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Thread-Index: AcpeNMpby54qeKKQRTmHMrvaKoMp1gAB8KxA Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AB0E16D@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7334ca1b0911050826gd077ecaif7771fa89c6f07d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0911050826gd077ecaif7771fa89c6f07d@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AAx6 ADw0 BrqI CEha Cmqx DDrb DcPq E+2O Fxae GRJi H2N+ Il3c JPC7 JPRt JetW KRYH;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{8AAB370D-C520-4826-9142-D9C284458C35};agBlAGYAZgAuAGwAYQByAHMAbwBuAEAAcwBhAGkAbABwAG8AaQBuAHQALgBjAG8AbQA=;Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:29:30 GMT;UgBFADoAIABOAG8AdgBhAHQAaQBvAG4AIABMAGEAdQBuAGMAaABwAGEAZAAsACAAYwBvAG4AdAByAG8AbABsAGUAcgAgAG8AZgAgAHQAaABlACAAZwBvAGQAcwA/AA== x-cr-puzzleid: {8AAB370D-C520-4826-9142-D9C284458C35} acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <3imfS.A.jgH._tw8KB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:29:35 +0000 (UTC) > In those screenshots, they use an 8x8 matrix to control e.g. levels > for eight tracks. Does that mean that your volume levels are quantized > to eight discrete values?=20 Yes. Pan is even worse, the middle two rows are both "center" so you effectively get 7 pan values. I guess this would be adequate for a lot of "dance" music. But this is just how Ableton has chosen to use the pads. Other applications can use the pads differently, for example using the entire grid as volume for the currently selected track arranged with 0 in the lower left and 127 in the upper right. That would give you 64 steps. Still not likely to replace pedals for some people though. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 17:46:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECADB3BE77; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:46:07 -0600 Subject: RE: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Thread-Topic: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? Thread-Index: AcpeNbZsSbTZePMFQmK7U5Ao5okBwgACHInw Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AB0E178@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <1BFB899F-EC9A-443D-BD2A-2A54BE9C5C67@zonemobius.com> <4AF2A4D4.8030505@gmx.de> <66f9cc1e0911050443l512e0e30sb26305f5bdc0e389@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: gOE= BwIE CdsI DduD Dq82 D3IA GM1P HwK5 IRFd JIqF Jy47 Klu0 Kyve LpgM L2yS L5v9;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{876513DF-EE18-4CDD-9716-5305F6EC6532};agBlAGYAZgAuAGwAYQByAHMAbwBuAEAAcwBhAGkAbABwAG8AaQBuAHQALgBjAG8AbQA=;Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:46:07 GMT;UgBFADoAIABOAG8AdgBhAHQAaQBvAG4AIABMAGEAdQBuAGMAaABwAGEAZAAsACAAYwBvAG4AdAByAG8AbABsAGUAcgAgAG8AZgAgAHQAaABlACAAZwBvAGQAcwA/AA== x-cr-puzzleid: {876513DF-EE18-4CDD-9716-5305F6EC6532} acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:46:11 +0000 (UTC) > Will any of these work in conjunction with the Looperlative without a =20 > computer involved?=20 Probably not. What you would need is a standalone box that had a USB A-Female on one side and MIDI in/out on the other and circuitry to do the protocol conversion. Since you're not connected to a computer there is no bus power so you would need a wall wart. I've never seen anything li= ke this. There are a lot of USB/MIDI converters out there but they're designed to be used with a computer and I don't think it's simply a matter of replacing the USB A-male connectors they all have with a USB A-female. I'm sure there are people that could build one, but it's not a mass market thing. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 18:56:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C35C3BE7C; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=A8ANSKW3iNjoHsAn0fMcfFPveiqtYcAnii/y+HEwuKA=; b=G8fOIx8nBIUAHoC1c3amirv71H54lPK/dQDPbxtxDCHdL4nChLQ5rdpOuSOR5jWkjC JRhIVoj5SIgLly4pJaSxa7bpdtMy/PZw4EGdO6ZOuHsTutaj+l5SqJL7Nm3iIYMtUhe8 +sA8B+kQBfgabM4TA9oxSQn8U2dmERZeaZBxc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=P99KkVX8pYETYZEPztuNPAm+gxsGxTbixNJD4OxsQX6wP+N4auh+5mwdKKjFIN8G2A TWGB6kk6Z3SE/FVzbLyiwdFfoSQSsz6IUBrWxlAiZmnKRAU/uTIeZAGIPBIxXPZXMdzw BAULoVFCFta+CEteGsjsQ1pZZkmbZ2UcMuQZw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AB0E16D@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7334ca1b0911050826gd077ecaif7771fa89c6f07d@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714BC2AB0E16D@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:56:08 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0911051056u17e34785ob68708f7986f75b2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Novation Launchpad, controller of the gods? From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 18:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Too bad it doesn't have any expression pedal inputs. The APC40 has a couple footswitch jacks but none for expression pedals either. Neither seems like a really good choice for a guitarist or any other instrumentalist whose hands are frequently occupied, except maybe as an additional controller for launching clips. On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Jeff Larson wro= te: > >> In those screenshots, they use an 8x8 matrix to control e.g. levels >> for eight tracks. Does that mean that your volume levels are quantized >> to eight discrete values? > > Yes. =A0Pan is even worse, the middle two rows are both "center" so you > effectively get 7 pan values. =A0I guess this would be adequate for a > lot of "dance" music. > > But this is just how Ableton has chosen to use the pads. =A0Other > applications can use the pads differently, for example using the > entire grid as volume for the currently selected track arranged with 0 > in the lower left and 127 in the upper right. =A0That would give you 64 > steps. =A0Still not likely to replace pedals for some people though. > > Jeff > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 5 20:38:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAA843BE78; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4AF33009.1080808@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:05:29 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kathleen Monahan , Musik International , Peter Koniuto , Paul Bryan , Canyon Records , Randall Frazier Massive Music America , Posterous Social Network , Bill Fox on MOG , Loopers Delight Mailing List , Daniel Pipitone , Jeff Kowal , Projekt Records Publicity Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 20:38:53 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EST/GMT-5/ITZ-5) on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on Fanger and Schonwalder. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk one from "Analog Overdose - The Ricochet Dream Edition" on the Ricochet Dream label. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#nov Former Tangerine Dream member Steve Jolliffe will be performing a live set on tonight's show. He played at electro-music 2009 last weekend and will be playing a house concert this Saturday. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9