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nion.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>The amount you will receive per day is $10,000 The minis=
ter trust funds and IMF boards of Benin Republic will send you the current =
standard track details you will need to pick up your ($10,000) payment by w=
estern union, you will receive every day till you receive the $1.5Million u=
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<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">My client was a successful and is an accomplished family man, who made enough fortune before his untimely death.</FONT><BR>
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<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">The board of directors of his bank adopted a resolution and I was mandated to provide his next of kin for the payment of this money within 28 Working days or forfeit the money to the bank as an abandoned property.</FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">The bankers had planned to invoke the abandoned property decree of 1996 to confiscate the funds after the expiration of the period given to me.</FONT><BR>
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<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">I have reasoned very professionally and I feel it will be legally proper to present you as the next of kin of my deceased client, so that you can be paid the funds left in his bank account.</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Tel/Fax: 44 7035 99 1522</FONT><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">I do not intend to cause any grief to you and your family.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">The reason for sending this mail is very fundamental to the doctrine of human privileges and right.</FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">My name is Barrister Larry White a legal practitioner based in London and the personal Attorney to late Mr. Adams, a national of your country who died along with his wife and two sons who died in the Tube explosion between King's Cross-and Russell Square in London. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">My client was a successful and is an accomplished family man, who made enough fortune before his untimely death.</FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Since then I had made several Inquiries through your Embassy to locate any of my clients extended relative but this exercise has proved unsuccessful.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">After several unsuccessful attempts, I decided to trace his relatives through the Internet, to locate any member of his family, not much progress was recorded.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">My late client was an influential wealthy businessman, an oil magnet here in London and he left behind a deposit of fifteen Million United State Dollars only 15,000,000.00 (USD) in his domiciliary bank account in a commercial bank here in London. </FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">After the death of my client his bankers contacted me, as his Attorney to provide his next of kin who should inherit his funds.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">The board of directors of his bank adopted a resolution and I was mandated to provide his next of kin for the payment of this money within 28 Working days or forfeit the money to the bank as an abandoned property.</FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">The bankers had planned to invoke the abandoned property decree of 1996 to confiscate the funds after the expiration of the period given to me.</FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Fortunately, I came across your name, to my greatest astonishment, I discovered that you bear the same surname with my late client and coincidentally, you are national of the same country.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Being convinced that you may be related with my late client or that you might provide clue to my search, I therefore, decided to contact with these facts before me, because of the similarities.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">By virtue of my closeness to the deceased and his immediate family, I am very much aware of my client financial standing and the bank account he operates.</FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">I have reasoned very professionally and I feel it will be legally proper to present you as the next of kin of my deceased client, so that you can be paid the funds left in his bank account.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">I therefore seek your consent to present you as the Next of Kin to the Deceased since you are at an advantage, </FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">bearing the same surname and equally from the same country that the proceeds of this Bank Account valued at $15,000,000.00 (USD) can be paid to you. We shall both share the funds. 40% for me and 55% to you, while 5% should be for Expenses or your Government may require as Tax.</FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">I shall assemble all the necessary Legal Documents that will be used to back up our claim.</FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">All I require is your honest cooperation to enable us seeing this deal through.</FONT><BR>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">I guarantee that this will be executed under a legitimate arrangement that will protect you from any breach of law. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Your swift response is anticipated. </FONT></DIV>
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hine!=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Nadia Salom <nadia.sal=
om@gmx.de> schrieb am Fr, 30.10.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Nadia Salom <nadia.salom@=
gmx.de>=0A> Betreff: Re: introduction=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig=
ht.com=0A> Datum: Freitag, 30. Oktober 2009, 15:07=0A> Wow, thank you Mr. B=
oysen so much for=0A> the extensive email. It is incredibly informative. I =
have=0A> done 3-4 performances already and have only used Ableton=0A> witho=
ut an extra loop plug in. I just routed the many tracks=0A> into one where =
I placed some effects, and then toggled the=0A> different tracks on or off.=
..w/ the mapped out keyboard, or=0A> with the mouse... it was a bit cumbers=
ome. I would set the=0A> length for my MIDI loops which I would record live=
, but for=0A> the Audio tracks, I couldn't figure how to do that. So I=0A> =
just let my own intuition decided when the loop was over. It=0A> seemed to =
work very well. It had a bit of a ethereal and=0A> random effect.=0A> The m=
ore I get aware of the different techniques the=0A> better. I am using Able=
ton 6 so I might be forced try the=0A> Mobius plugin. I really want to star=
t switching from=0A> different loops, to provide for some variation.=0A> @F=
lorian and @Warren=0A> The link I sent was just audio. I also have a video =
of one=0A> performance I did. Unfortunately the camera is shaking=0A> becau=
se my daughter decided to get creative while=0A> filming...There is also an=
other video...=0A> =0A> Here is the link: http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07/1=
8737=0A> =0A> I hope it works.=0A> =0A> Thanks for listening=0A> best wishe=
s=0A> nadia=0A> =0A> Per Boysen schrieb:=0A> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:26=
 PM, Nadia Salom <nadia.salom@gmx.de=0A> <mailto:nadia.salom@gmx.de>>=0A> w=
rote:=0A> > =0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0I have recently discovered the=0A> potential=
 of live looping as a=0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0means of realtime composition.=0A> =
And am interested learning about=0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0all this technique espec=
ially=0A> regarding the use of Ableton, (which=0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0still give=
s me a bit of a=0A> headache.)Since I always worked very=0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0=
intuitively live looping seems=0A> to be the best way to still keep=0A> >=
=A0 =A0=A0=A0accessing the full potential=0A> of the moment and still orche=
strate=0A> >=A0 =A0=A0=A0many instruments.=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > Hi,=
=0A> > =0A> > And welcome to this list!=A0 :-) =0A> > Since you have Ableto=
n Live you can start with the=0A> Live plugin Looper (new with Live 8.0). H=
ere comes the first=0A> choice in live looping technique: Do you want to se=
t the=0A> tempo for Live by starting with creating a loop with your=0A> mic=
/instrument input? Or do you want to first start Live and=0A> listen for th=
e tempo to play in before starting to layer=0A> audio in the Looper plugin?=
 These are two very different=0A> approaches. Personally I only use the fir=
st one - where you=0A> create the first loop and set the tempo for all elec=
tronics=0A> based on your playing - and I can't really say much about=0A> t=
he other method except that it works more like usual multi=0A> track record=
ing. You have to make a setting in Live's Looper=0A> plugin in order to ext=
ract the tempo and set it for the=0A> application. Play around with one loo=
p and learn to kick the=0A> Looper plugin into Overdub Mode and layer audio=
 while you=0A> control its Feedback (how much of old layers that will be=0A=
> fed back into the loop) by a pedal or fader. Learn tricks=0A> like overdu=
bbing one rhythm with voice/instrument while=0A> pumping a counter rhythm w=
ith the feedback pedal foot to=0A> change the background layers. This very =
simply setup can be=0A> taken quite far in musical terms.=0A> > =0A> > Seco=
nd step in looping technique could be to use two=0A> parallel loops. This c=
an be done by opening a second Looper=0A> plugin on a second track. If you =
did set the first one to=0A> pick up the tempo for Live you should set this=
 second looper=0A> to slave to this, Live's, tempo.=0A> > =0A> > As the thi=
rd step I'd like to see the technique of=0A> layering a long recording over=
 the span of a couple of loop=0A> repeats. This action is called "Multiply"=
 and is not=0A> supported by the plugin Looper in Live. My favorite looper=
=0A> plugin that supports Multiply is Mobius. Create your first=0A> loop, m=
ake a couple of overdubs and then chose Multiply and=0A> play/sing a line t=
hat evolves while your old loop is being=0A> repeated in the background. Th=
e Multiply action keeps=0A> layering your input input and making the loop l=
onger until=0A> you chose Multiply a second time.=0A> > =0A> > A fourth tec=
hnique may be to switch loop. Live's=0A> Looper doesn't support that, but w=
ith Mobius you give a=0A> command named "Next Loop" what happens then is th=
at the=0A> recent loop stops playing and a new one is starting to be=0A> cr=
eated by your audio input. But maybe you want to do this=0A> jumping betwee=
n alternative loops on a parallel loop, so you=0A> can always hear what you=
 recorded in the first loop? A=0A> typical performance scenario could then =
be:=0A> > =0A> > 1. Create a rhythm pattern as the first loop.=0A> > 2. Lay=
er a variation or fill into this first loop.=0A> > 3. Select a new track an=
d create a new loop in=0A> parallel with more tonal material. This could be=
 "intro" or=0A> "verse".=0A> > 4. While still working on track 2 go Next Lo=
op and=0A> create "verse 2" (rhythm on track 1/Loop 1 will be heard=0A> con=
stantly)=0A> > =0A> > I think this is a much anyone can say about "looping=
=0A> technique". The rest is up to you and depends on what music=0A> you wa=
nt to create. You have to think about what parts of=0A> the music that will=
 be repeated in shorter loops and crate=0A> those parts early before multip=
lying. You may also want to=0A> make loops of different lengths to create r=
hythmic variation=0A> as they glide in and out of beat matching, overdubbin=
g one=0A> layer in reverse mode or substituting short slices of the=0A> loo=
p with new input.=0A> > =0A> > Greetings from Sweden=0A> > =0A> > Per Boyse=
n=0A> > www.boysen.se <http://www.boysen.se>=0A> > www.perboysen.com <http:=
//www.perboysen.com>=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> =0A> =0A> -- Nadia Salom=0A> =
http://www.nirmala07.net=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A      

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So I have a new CD that I've mentioned here before.

I want to submit the Album info and track names to CDDB, I guess via
iTunes. I'm sure some folks here have experience with this.

1) Is there an official list of genres and sub-genres published somewhere?
2) If you know my stuff, or If you have a chance to listen to the
tunes on the purple playlist at http://warrensirota.com, what
suggestions would you have for me? (I apologize for the inevitably
self-promoting aspects of this question. I mean it as an honest
inquiry into something that has bewildered me for quite a while and I
need to answer).
3) How do you submit cover art to these databases? or is that just
connected with being in the iTunes (or other) store?

Thanks for any help you can offer,
Warren

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Hi all,

As some of you witnessed, the "record" button of my DL-4 fell apart during
my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the pedal.

I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be an easy fix. The
trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it's still stuck to
something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid 4 black screws and
one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts around the
inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be held in
by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like modeling
type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out?

This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more out of
the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job.

-- 
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

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Hi all, <br><br>As some of you witnessed, the &quot;record&quot; button of =
my DL-4 fell apart during my performance at Y2k9. I&#39;m trying to fix the=
 pedal. <br><br>I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be=
 an easy fix. The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it&#3=
9;s still stuck to something I can&#39;t see. Once inside the pedal, I&#39;=
ve undid 4 black screws and one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the=
 black bolts around the inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip b=
oard seems to be held in by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dial=
s for things like modeling type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out?=
<br>
<br>This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4&quot; higher or m=
ore out of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job. <br clear=3D"all"=
><br>-- <br>Matt Davignon<br><a href=3D"http://www.ribosomemusic.com">www.r=
ibosomemusic.com</a><br>
Rigs! <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt">www.youtube.com/=
user/ribosomematt</a><br>

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yeap,welcome to china town!=0A=0A> This is frustrating, because if the chip=
board was 1/4"=0A> higher or more out of the way, this would be a 20 minute=
=0A> repair job. =0A> =0A> -- =0A> Matt Davignon=0A> www.ribosomemusic.com=
=0A> =0A> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A      

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Yes there's a good chance it's the potentiometers connected to the dials.  
There's also an off chance that there is a screw someplace that you haven't seen yet.  I've fixed many electronic devices and the screws will fool ya.

toby
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Matt Davignon 
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  Hi all, 

  As some of you witnessed, the "record" button of my DL-4 fell apart during my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the pedal. 

  I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be an easy fix. The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it's still stuck to something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid 4 black screws and one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts around the inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be held in by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like modeling type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out?

  This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more out of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job. 

  -- 
  Matt Davignon
  www.ribosomemusic.com
  Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Yes there's a good chance it's the potentiometers 
connected to the dials.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>There's also an off chance that there is a screw 
someplace that you haven't seen yet.&nbsp; I've fixed many electronic devices 
and the screws will fool ya.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>toby</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=mattdavignon@gmail.com href="mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com">Matt 
  Davignon</A> </DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi all, <BR><BR>As some of you witnessed, the "record" button 
  of my DL-4 fell apart during my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the 
  pedal. <BR><BR>I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be an 
  easy fix. The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it's still 
  stuck to something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid 4 black 
  screws and one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts around 
  the inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be held 
  in by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like 
  modeling type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out?<BR><BR>This is 
  frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more out of the way, 
  this would be a 20 minute repair job. <BR clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Matt 
  Davignon<BR><A 
  href="http://www.ribosomemusic.com">www.ribosomemusic.com</A><BR>Rigs! <A 
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Rainer informs me (and someone else has before, I just forgot) that
that jukebox app won't work outside the US! So here are a couple of
mp3 links from the CD:

http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/KickinBack.mp3
http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/afrique2.mp3
http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/ghosttown.mp3
http://www.warrensirota.com/Solostuff/ramble.mp3

thx,
Warren

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
> So I have a new CD that I've mentioned here before.
>
> I want to submit the Album info and track names to CDDB, I guess via
> iTunes. I'm sure some folks here have experience with this.
>
> 1) Is there an official list of genres and sub-genres published somewhere?
> 2) If you know my stuff, or If you have a chance to listen to the
> tunes on the purple playlist at http://warrensirota.com, what
> suggestions would you have for me? (I apologize for the inevitably
> self-promoting aspects of this question. I mean it as an honest
> inquiry into something that has bewildered me for quite a while and I
> need to answer).
> 3) How do you submit cover art to these databases? or is that just
> connected with being in the iTunes (or other) store?
>
> Thanks for any help you can offer,
> Warren
>



-- 
Warren
http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679
http://www.warrensirota.com

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 gave warren's "LOOPS, LIVE AND OTW" another spin today.....what a delight=
, the playing is tight, wonderful timbre, xcellent recording chops.....gre=
at job warren!!!!!.....loved "a day at the circus", sweet.....i will give=
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I almost missed the hex screw at first, since it doesn't really look like a
screw. All I can see on my side of the chip board now is the ROM chip, a
potentiometer for the "mode" dial, two wires to the battery compartment, and
a bunch of solder spots. Something other than those elements is locking the
board down, or it would be a little more flexible.

It may be the dials...so, how do I get them off? Do I just force 'em with a
pair of pliers?

-- 
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Toby G <carpet8@mac.com> wrote:

>  Yes there's a good chance it's the potentiometers connected to the
> dials.
> There's also an off chance that there is a screw someplace that you haven't
> seen yet.  I've fixed many electronic devices and the screws will fool ya.
>
> toby
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>
> *To:* Loopers Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:53 AM
> *Subject:* Advice for DL-4 home repair
>
> Hi all,
>
> As some of you witnessed, the "record" button of my DL-4 fell apart during
> my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the pedal.
>
> I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be an easy fix.
> The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it's still stuck to
> something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid 4 black screws and
> one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts around the
> inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be held in
> by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like modeling
> type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out?
>
> This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more out
> of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job.
>
> --
> Matt Davignon
> www.ribosomemusic.com
> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
>
>

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I almost missed the hex screw at first, since it doesn&#39;t really look li=
ke a screw. All I can see on my side of the chip board now is the ROM chip,=
 a potentiometer for the &quot;mode&quot; dial, two wires to the battery co=
mpartment, and a bunch of solder spots. Something other than those elements=
 is locking the board down, or it would be a little more flexible. <br>
<br>It may be the dials...so, how do I get them off? Do I just force &#39;e=
m with a pair of pliers? <br><br>-- <br>Matt Davignon<br><a href=3D"http://=
www.ribosomemusic.com">www.ribosomemusic.com</a><br>Rigs! <a href=3D"http:/=
/www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt">www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt</a><b=
r>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Toby G <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:carpet8@mac.com">carpet8@mac.com</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: =
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<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Yes there&#39;s a good chance it&#39;s=
 the potentiometers=20
connected to the dials.=A0 </font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">There&#39;s also an off chance that th=
ere is a screw=20
someplace that you haven&#39;t seen yet.=A0 I&#39;ve fixed many electronic =
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<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">toby</font></div></font><div><div></di=
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l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj=
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<b>From:</b>=20
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" target=3D"_blank">Matt=20
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l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"Loopers-Delight@lo=
opers-delight.com" href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">Loopers Delight</a> </div>

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l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 01, 2009 10=
:53=20
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l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Advice for DL-4 home=20
repair</div>
  <div><br></div>Hi all, <br><br>As some of you witnessed, the &quot;record=
&quot; button=20
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x the=20
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<grin> Aw shucks, Mike - I really appreciate you taking the time to
say that, and I hope you really enjoy it. Thanks.

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 6:56 PM,  <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
> gave warren's "LOOPS, LIVE AND OTW" another spin today.....what a delight,
> the playing is tight, wonderful timbre, xcellent recording chops.....great
> job warren!!!!!.....loved "a day at the circus", sweet.....i will give this
> cd many more listens.....:)m

 - so, if you had to choose a category for this, what would you say?

I found a list of official id3v1 genres for mp3 files, but was unable
to find a list of official gracenote genres and sub-genres (am not now
convinced there is such a thing). Here's what I found for the id3v1,
below.

so what's my cd: 47? 23? 109? 119?

0.Blues
      1.Classic Rock
      2.Country
      3.Dance
      4.Disco
      5.Funk
      6.Grunge
      7.Hip-Hop
      8.Jazz
      9.Metal
     10.New Age
     11.Oldies
     12.Other
     13.Pop
     14.R&B
     15.Rap
     16.Reggae
     17.Rock
     18.Techno
     19.Industrial
     20.Alternative
     21.Ska
     22.Death Metal
     23.Pranks
     24.Soundtrack
     25.Euro-Techno
     26.Ambient
     27.Trip-Hop
     28.Vocal
     29.Jazz+Funk
     30.Fusion
     31.Trance
     32.Classical
     33.Instrumental
     34.Acid
     35.House
     36.Game
     37.Sound Clip
     38.Gospel
     39.Noise
     40.AlternRock
     41.Bass
     42.Soul
     43.Punk
     44.Space
     45.Meditative
     46.Instrumental Pop
     47.Instrumental Rock
     48.Ethnic
     49.Gothic
     50.Darkwave
     51.Techno-Industrial
     52.Electronic
     53.Pop-Folk
     54.Eurodance
     55.Dream
     56.Southern Rock
     57.Comedy
     58.Cult
     59.Gangsta
     60.Top 40
     61.Christian Rap
     62.Pop/Funk
     63.Jungle
     64.Native American
     65.Cabaret
     66.New Wave
     67.Psychadelic
     68.Rave
     69.Showtunes
     70.Trailer
     71.Lo-Fi
     72.Tribal
     73.Acid Punk
     74.Acid Jazz
     75.Polka
     76.Retro
     77.Musical
     78.Rock & Roll
     79.Hard Rock

   The following genres are Winamp extensions

     80.Folk
     81.Folk-Rock
     82.National Folk
     83.Swing
     84.Fast Fusion
     85.Bebob
     86.Latin
     87.Revival
     88.Celtic
     89.Bluegrass
     90.Avantgarde
     91.Gothic Rock
     92.Progressive Rock
     93.Psychedelic Rock
     94.Symphonic Rock
     95.Slow Rock
     96.Big Band
     97.Chorus
     98.Easy Listening
     99.Acoustic
    100.Humour
    101.Speech
    102.Chanson
    103.Opera
    104.Chamber Music
    105.Sonata
    106.Symphony
    107.Booty Bass
    108.Primus
    109.Porn Groove
    110.Satire
    111.Slow Jam
    112.Club
    113.Tango
    114.Samba
    115.Folklore
    116.Ballad
    117.Power Ballad
    118.Rhythmic Soul
    119.Freestyle
    120.Duet
    121.Punk Rock
    122.Drum Solo
    123.A capella
    124.Euro-House
    125.Dance Hall

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Hey All,

I got back home(Barbados) Tuesday morning at 1:30am after leaving Toledo,
Ohio at 4:00am Monday. At least half of that time was spent in the
airports in Chicago and Miami. I know this is probably the norm for most
of you, but it was pure torture for me. I hate airports and struggled to
stay awake.

Would I do this again?
Oh Yeah!!
Looking forward to it already.

I had a great time at the show, and hanging out and jamming at Rick's.
I'm from a fairly small island, and it's quite challenging finding other
artists that are interested in trying new things, far less a place where
you can actually watch such shows.

I'd just like to thank Rick and Chris for having me in their home, and to
Bill for bailing me out of my laptop disaster, and restringing Rick's
bass.

Thanks to all that played at this fest, it was truly inspiring to be a
part of this looping communion.

Hope to see you again on the next loop.

Andre
www.andredonawa.com

On Tue, October 27, 2009 11:03 am, tEd ® KiLLiAn wrote:
> Michael,
>
> Speaking for myself (and perhaps a few others), some of us are just
> tired old farts who have been going to the festival every year since
> it's inception and have filled the Loopers' Delight archive every year
> with kudus, reviews and discussions of it to the point that perhaps
> we've a sense that people are tired of hearing from us about it.
>
> Or maybe we're just tired . . . I know I am . . . and would like to
> hear someone else talk about it.
>
> As always . . . Rick & Co. did a fabulous job putting it on, and an
> outstanding job of gathering talent from around the world . . . all of
> which at a general financial loss personally (not to mention
> dedication of time, loss of sleep and frequent peace of mind).
>
> Every performer in attendance had his or her moments of brilliance.
>
> A few had their struggles with tech "gremlins" and the "brilliant
> part" was in how they dealt with it.
>
> But **particular** standouts (for me) were Lilli Lewis, Jim Thomas,
> Bill Walker, (yourself) Michael Peters, DCO, Sjaak Overgaauw, Kevin
> Kalimbaman Spears and Andre Donawa, Daryl Shawn and Jim Goodin,
> bassista Ariane Cap, and the vocal duo of Laurel Murphy and Ryan Slemko.
>
> In addition, Daniel Thomas (& son) had his best set ever, as did
> Warren Sirota, Matt Davignon and our own Stanosaur (more felt than
> heard).
>
> Many first-timers at the fest also put in memorable sets, including
> Nat Grant, Electro Funkadelica, and Organamatonic.
>
> I was also absolutely knocked-out by Julia
> Entertainmentforthebraindead Kotowski from Cologne.
>
> It's too hard to write and post this stuff though, because as soon as
> you do, you think of someone else you missed and you're afraid of
> possible hurt feelings.
>
> I'll push the button and send this anyway and hope that anyone I
> missed forgives me . . . or can simply dismiss me as an old fart.
>
> Best regards to all,
>
> Ted Killian
>
> On Oct 27, 2009, at 12:18 AM, Michael Peters wrote:
>
>> p.s. I'm surprised that there are hardly any postings about this
>> festival on
>> the LD list. It was one of the most exciting and memorable musical
>> events I
>> can remember. Meeting old friends (some of them for the first time)
>> and new
>> friends, talking with many interesting people, lots and lots of
>> incredible
>> music and inspiration. Thanks so much to Rick and of course also to
>> Chris,
>> Bill, and Nancy for having us.
>
>


Andre Donawa
Barbados Guitar School
Woodside Gardens
Bay St.
St. Michael
Barbados
 11157
Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office)
     246 436 8294 (School)

http://www.barbadosguitar.com
http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa
http://www.andredonawa.com
http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa
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Part of me says go with 22 and 59. You got the look, so mess with people.

: )

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote=
:
> <grin> Aw shucks, Mike - I really appreciate you taking the time to
> say that, and I hope you really enjoy it. Thanks.
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 6:56 PM, =A0<nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
>> gave warren's "LOOPS, LIVE AND OTW" another spin today.....what a deligh=
t,
>> the playing is tight, wonderful timbre, xcellent recording chops.....gre=
at
>> job warren!!!!!.....loved "a day at the circus", sweet.....i will give t=
his
>> cd many more listens.....:)m
>
> =A0- so, if you had to choose a category for this, what would you say?
>
> I found a list of official id3v1 genres for mp3 files, but was unable
> to find a list of official gracenote genres and sub-genres (am not now
> convinced there is such a thing). Here's what I found for the id3v1,
> below.
>
> so what's my cd: 47? 23? 109? 119?
>
> 0.Blues
> =A0 =A0 =A01.Classic Rock
> =A0 =A0 =A02.Country
> =A0 =A0 =A03.Dance
> =A0 =A0 =A04.Disco
> =A0 =A0 =A05.Funk
> =A0 =A0 =A06.Grunge
> =A0 =A0 =A07.Hip-Hop
> =A0 =A0 =A08.Jazz
> =A0 =A0 =A09.Metal
> =A0 =A0 10.New Age
> =A0 =A0 11.Oldies
> =A0 =A0 12.Other
> =A0 =A0 13.Pop
> =A0 =A0 14.R&B
> =A0 =A0 15.Rap
> =A0 =A0 16.Reggae
> =A0 =A0 17.Rock
> =A0 =A0 18.Techno
> =A0 =A0 19.Industrial
> =A0 =A0 20.Alternative
> =A0 =A0 21.Ska
> =A0 =A0 22.Death Metal
> =A0 =A0 23.Pranks
> =A0 =A0 24.Soundtrack
> =A0 =A0 25.Euro-Techno
> =A0 =A0 26.Ambient
> =A0 =A0 27.Trip-Hop
> =A0 =A0 28.Vocal
> =A0 =A0 29.Jazz+Funk
> =A0 =A0 30.Fusion
> =A0 =A0 31.Trance
> =A0 =A0 32.Classical
> =A0 =A0 33.Instrumental
> =A0 =A0 34.Acid
> =A0 =A0 35.House
> =A0 =A0 36.Game
> =A0 =A0 37.Sound Clip
> =A0 =A0 38.Gospel
> =A0 =A0 39.Noise
> =A0 =A0 40.AlternRock
> =A0 =A0 41.Bass
> =A0 =A0 42.Soul
> =A0 =A0 43.Punk
> =A0 =A0 44.Space
> =A0 =A0 45.Meditative
> =A0 =A0 46.Instrumental Pop
> =A0 =A0 47.Instrumental Rock
> =A0 =A0 48.Ethnic
> =A0 =A0 49.Gothic
> =A0 =A0 50.Darkwave
> =A0 =A0 51.Techno-Industrial
> =A0 =A0 52.Electronic
> =A0 =A0 53.Pop-Folk
> =A0 =A0 54.Eurodance
> =A0 =A0 55.Dream
> =A0 =A0 56.Southern Rock
> =A0 =A0 57.Comedy
> =A0 =A0 58.Cult
> =A0 =A0 59.Gangsta
> =A0 =A0 60.Top 40
> =A0 =A0 61.Christian Rap
> =A0 =A0 62.Pop/Funk
> =A0 =A0 63.Jungle
> =A0 =A0 64.Native American
> =A0 =A0 65.Cabaret
> =A0 =A0 66.New Wave
> =A0 =A0 67.Psychadelic
> =A0 =A0 68.Rave
> =A0 =A0 69.Showtunes
> =A0 =A0 70.Trailer
> =A0 =A0 71.Lo-Fi
> =A0 =A0 72.Tribal
> =A0 =A0 73.Acid Punk
> =A0 =A0 74.Acid Jazz
> =A0 =A0 75.Polka
> =A0 =A0 76.Retro
> =A0 =A0 77.Musical
> =A0 =A0 78.Rock & Roll
> =A0 =A0 79.Hard Rock
>
> =A0 The following genres are Winamp extensions
>
> =A0 =A0 80.Folk
> =A0 =A0 81.Folk-Rock
> =A0 =A0 82.National Folk
> =A0 =A0 83.Swing
> =A0 =A0 84.Fast Fusion
> =A0 =A0 85.Bebob
> =A0 =A0 86.Latin
> =A0 =A0 87.Revival
> =A0 =A0 88.Celtic
> =A0 =A0 89.Bluegrass
> =A0 =A0 90.Avantgarde
> =A0 =A0 91.Gothic Rock
> =A0 =A0 92.Progressive Rock
> =A0 =A0 93.Psychedelic Rock
> =A0 =A0 94.Symphonic Rock
> =A0 =A0 95.Slow Rock
> =A0 =A0 96.Big Band
> =A0 =A0 97.Chorus
> =A0 =A0 98.Easy Listening
> =A0 =A0 99.Acoustic
> =A0 =A0100.Humour
> =A0 =A0101.Speech
> =A0 =A0102.Chanson
> =A0 =A0103.Opera
> =A0 =A0104.Chamber Music
> =A0 =A0105.Sonata
> =A0 =A0106.Symphony
> =A0 =A0107.Booty Bass
> =A0 =A0108.Primus
> =A0 =A0109.Porn Groove
> =A0 =A0110.Satire
> =A0 =A0111.Slow Jam
> =A0 =A0112.Club
> =A0 =A0113.Tango
> =A0 =A0114.Samba
> =A0 =A0115.Folklore
> =A0 =A0116.Ballad
> =A0 =A0117.Power Ballad
> =A0 =A0118.Rhythmic Soul
> =A0 =A0119.Freestyle
> =A0 =A0120.Duet
> =A0 =A0121.Punk Rock
> =A0 =A0122.Drum Solo
> =A0 =A0123.A capella
> =A0 =A0124.Euro-House
> =A0 =A0125.Dance Hall
>
>



--=20
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
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Are there any MIDI loopers that recognize when you've played the same  
sequence of notes (modulo minor timing and velocity variations) more  
than once and automatically turn it into a loop?

Mark

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Bill Walker had the answer. He was like:

>  Yep , The black dial knobs themselves have to come off the front panel,
>  use a pair of pliers to gently yet firmly grab them and pull up.
>
>  Bill
>
Thanks Bill!



>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Matt Davignon [mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:54 AM
> *To:* Loopers Delight
>
> *Subject:* Advice for DL-4 home repair
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> As some of you witnessed, the "record" button of my DL-4 fell apart during
> my performance at Y2k9. I'm trying to fix the pedal.
>
> I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be an easy fix.
> The trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it's still stuck to
> something I can't see. Once inside the pedal, I've undid 4 black screws and
> one tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts around the
> inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be held in
> by something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like modeling
> type, delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out?
>
> This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4" higher or more out
> of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job.
>
> --
> Matt Davignon
> www.ribosomemusic.com
> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
>



-- 
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

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Bill Walker had the answer. He was like: <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><bl=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Yep , The blac=
k dial knobs themselves have
to come off the front panel, =A0use a pair of pliers to gently yet firmly g=
rab
them and pull up.</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><span=
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</font></p></div></div></blockquote><div>Thanks Bill! <br></div><div><br>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font=
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family: Tahoma;"> Matt Davignon
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:mattdavignon@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mattdav=
ignon@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, November 01,=
 2009
10:54 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Loopers Delight<div cl=
ass=3D"im"><br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Advice for DL-4 h=
ome
repair</div></span></font></p>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size: 12pt;">=A0</span></font></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Hi all, <br><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
<br>
As some of you witnessed, the &quot;record&quot; button of my DL-4 fell apa=
rt
during my performance at Y2k9. I&#39;m trying to fix the pedal. <br>
<br>
I still have all the pieces, and it looks like it should be an easy fix. Th=
e
trouble is I need to get under the chip board...and it&#39;s still stuck to
something I can&#39;t see. Once inside the pedal, I&#39;ve undid 4 black sc=
rews and one
tall hex-shaped screw. I also unscrewed the black bolts around the
inputs/outputs on the back of the pedal. The chip board seems to be held in=
 by
something in the middle. Could it be the 5 dials for things like modeling t=
ype,
delay, mix? If so, how do I get those out?<br>
<br>
This is frustrating, because if the chipboard was 1/4&quot; higher or more =
out
of the way, this would be a 20 minute repair job. <br clear=3D"all">
<br>
-- <br>
Matt Davignon<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.ribosomemusic.com" target=3D"_blank">www.ribosomemusi=
c.com</a><br>
Rigs! <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt" target=3D"_blank=
">www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt</a></div></div></span></font></p>

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</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Matt Davignon<br><a hre=
f=3D"http://www.ribosomemusic.com">www.ribosomemusic.com</a><br>Rigs! <a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt">www.youtube.com/user/riboso=
mematt</a><br>


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Hi Mark

> Are there any MIDI loopers that recognize when you've played the same 
> sequence of notes (modulo minor timing and velocity variations) more 
> than once and automatically turn it into a loop?
Unfortunately: no.
I am looking for some but the only thing which works on the MIDI-level 
similar like a looper is Ableton Live.

Any kind of loop-autorecognition is not available. But that would be 
quite difficult to achieve. Example: you plan a repeating phrase of two 
bars, which starts with two identical notes -> The looper would think of 
the first two as loop. This (extreme) example can be extended to any 
other dimension. The result will be that you will be forced again to 
predefine a looplength.

Florian

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Not necessarily. The thing that typically comes to mind is that if three
first notes match in the next bar - it is a loop. Smth like that. But you
will have to define a bar anyway.

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Florian Anwander
<fanwander@mnet-online.de>wrote:

> Hi Mark
>
>
>  Are there any MIDI loopers that recognize when you've played the same
>> sequence of notes (modulo minor timing and velocity variations) more than
>> once and automatically turn it into a loop?
>>
> Unfortunately: no.
> I am looking for some but the only thing which works on the MIDI-level
> similar like a looper is Ableton Live.
>
> Any kind of loop-autorecognition is not available. But that would be quite
> difficult to achieve. Example: you plan a repeating phrase of two bars,
> which starts with two identical notes -> The looper would think of the first
> two as loop. This (extreme) example can be extended to any other dimension.
> The result will be that you will be forced again to predefine a looplength.
>
> Florian
>
>

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Not necessarily. The thing that typically comes to mind is that if three fi=
rst notes match in the next bar - it is a loop. Smth like that. But you wil=
l have to define a bar anyway.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, No=
v 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Florian Anwander <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:fanwander@mnet-online.de">fanwander@mnet-online.de</a>&gt;</span> wrot=
e:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Mark<div class=
=3D"im"><br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Are there any MIDI loopers that recognize when you&#39;ve played the same s=
equence of notes (modulo minor timing and velocity variations) more than on=
ce and automatically turn it into a loop?<br>
</blockquote></div>
Unfortunately: no.<br>
I am looking for some but the only thing which works on the MIDI-level simi=
lar like a looper is Ableton Live.<br>
<br>
Any kind of loop-autorecognition is not available. But that would be quite =
difficult to achieve. Example: you plan a repeating phrase of two bars, whi=
ch starts with two identical notes -&gt; The looper would think of the firs=
t two as loop. This (extreme) example can be extended to any other dimensio=
n. The result will be that you will be forced again to predefine a loopleng=
th.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
Florian<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>

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I don't think so. But this is typically something I imagine can be built in
MAX.

Another suggestion to reach a similar effect in MIDI looping is to define
certain MIDI note numbers to trig certain functions. Then you simply play
those notes to give looping commands like "record", "stop recording", "new
track" etc.

I only know about two applications that would let incoming MIDI note define
actions for MIDI looping: Logic and Ableton Live. Both applications offer
extensive MIDI data filtering and MIDI data transformation. Logic will be
using its global cycle mode for looping, which means all loops has to be of
the same length. Ableton Live offers individual lengths for all loops, if
you use the Mix View.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:

> Are there any MIDI loopers that recognize when you've played the same
> sequence of notes (modulo minor timing and velocity variations) more than
> once and automatically turn it into a loop?
>

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I don&#39;t think so. But this is typically something I imagine can be buil=
t in MAX.<br><br>Another suggestion to reach a similar effect in MIDI loopi=
ng is to define certain MIDI note numbers to trig certain functions. Then y=
ou simply play those notes to give looping commands like &quot;record&quot;=
, &quot;stop recording&quot;, &quot;new track&quot; etc. <br>
<br>I only know about two applications that would let incoming MIDI note de=
fine actions for MIDI looping: Logic and Ableton Live. Both applications of=
fer extensive MIDI data filtering and MIDI data transformation. Logic will =
be using its global cycle mode for looping, which means all loops has to be=
 of the same length. Ableton Live offers individual lengths for all loops, =
if you use the Mix View. <br>
<br clear=3D"all">Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen <br><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.boysen.se">www.boysen.se</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.co=
m">www.perboysen.com</a><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Mark Ham=
burg <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@grubmah.com">mark@grubmah=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"bo=
rder-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding=
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<div id=3D":4y" class=3D"ii gt">Are there any MIDI loopers that recognize w=
hen you&#39;ve played the same sequence of notes (modulo minor timing and v=
elocity variations) more than once and automatically turn it into a loop?</=
div>
</blockquote></div><br>

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Hi

> I don't think so. But this is typically something I imagine can be built 
> in MAX.
basically you always have to define what shall be recognized as a 
pattern. Whether it is a time orientated definition like a bar or a 
certain number of notes. But you have to say: what _is_ a pattern and 
what is _not_ a pattern. If you do not do this you will always run into 
the trap with two repeating notes being recognized as two repetions of a 
one-note-pattern. (And saying a single note cannot be a pattern is not 
good, because you may want a steadily repeating single sustained base note).


> Another suggestion to reach a similar effect in MIDI looping is to 
> define certain MIDI note numbers to trig certain functions. Then you 
> simply play those notes to give looping commands like "record", "stop 
> recording", "new track" etc.
This is a very nice idea. It makes the handling much easier.

> Logic will be using its global cycle mode for looping, 
> which means all loops has to be of the same length. 
Not necessarily. You can setup a very long song length (two thousand and 
something bars which can be several hours - depending on tempo and 
measure settings), and use then the loop function per sequencer. That 
way also a individual loop length per track can be achieved.




I went through all this, because looping with MIDI (or CV/Gate) was 
exactly what I was looking for. All this requires extensive preparation 
on a laptop. Maybe this does not disturb others, but I wanted to get 
away from that kind of making music. I don't want to klick thousand 
times anymore, before I can play a single note of music. After all that 
trials and tribulations I finally decided to use standard audio looper 
hardware - an Electrix Repeater and a Lexicon Jamman - and record my 
synths there. This is of course my personal point of view based on my 
being bored after 25 years of making music with computers and doing my 
dayjob in a software company.

Florian

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>
> Logic will be using its global cycle mode for looping, which means all
> loops has to be of the same length.
>


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Florian Anwander
<fanwander@mnet-online.de>wrote:

>
> Not necessarily. You can setup a very long song length (two thousand and
> something bars which can be several hours - depending on tempo and measure
> settings), and use then the loop function per sequencer. That way also a
> individual loop length per track can be achieved.
>


Just a short explanation for those not familiar with Logic: I and Florian
are talking about two different ways of making MIDI looping happen in Logic:


1) Global cycle mode:
One loop length for all loops, loop length for all loops can be changed
though.

2) Many separate MIDI Regions:
 Regions can be of different length and interact poly rhythmically. This is
close to using Ableton Live in Mixer View, but with Logic you see all
looping regions graphically in a linear way which makes it simpler to get a
quick understanding the periodicity in which loops of different lengths sync
their starting downbeat.

One can combine both methods too, as for example Thomas Dolby does in his
live show.


After all that trials and tribulations I finally decided to use standard
> audio looper hardware - an Electrix Repeater and a Lexicon Jamman - and
> record my synths there.
>

That's an interesting point. I too often chose this method.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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<blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt=
 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quote">Logic will be usi=
ng its global cycle mode for looping, which means all loops has to be of th=
e same length. <br>
</blockquote>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Florian=
 Anwander <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fanwander@mnet-online.de"=
>fanwander@mnet-online.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0=
pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im"><br></div>
Not necessarily. You can setup a very long song length (two thousand and so=
mething bars which can be several hours - depending on tempo and measure se=
ttings), and use then the loop function per sequencer. That way also a indi=
vidual loop length per track can be achieved.<br>
</blockquote><div><br><br>Just a short explanation for those not familiar w=
ith Logic: I and Florian are talking about two different ways of making MID=
I looping happen in Logic: <br><br>1) Global cycle mode:<br>One loop length=
 for all loops, loop length for all loops can be changed though.<br>
<br>2) Many separate MIDI Regions:<br>=C2=A0Regions can be of different len=
gth and interact poly rhythmically. This is close to using Ableton Live in =
Mixer View, but with Logic you see all looping regions graphically in a lin=
ear way which makes it simpler to get a quick understanding the periodicity=
 in which loops of different lengths sync their starting downbeat.<br>
<br>One can combine both methods too, as for example Thomas Dolby does in h=
is live show. <br><br><br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(2=
04, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">
After all that trials and tribulations I finally decided to use standard au=
dio looper hardware - an Electrix Repeater and a Lexicon Jamman - and recor=
d my synths there.<br></blockquote></div></div><br>That&#39;s an interestin=
g point. I too often chose this method. <br>
<br clear=3D"all">Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen <br><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.boysen.se">www.boysen.se</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.co=
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Hi Per

> One can combine both methods too, as for example Thomas Dolby does in 
> his live show.
I have the Sole Inhabitant DVD, but until now I did not yet pay too much 
attention to his computerscreens.

>     After all that trials and tribulations I finally decided to use
>     standard audio looper hardware - an Electrix Repeater and a Lexicon
>     Jamman - and record my synths there.
> That's an interesting point. I too often chose this method.
By the way. I had a short email communication on the development of a 
simple MIDI-Looper with a guy who does several cool PIC based tools 
(Kaspar from www.frequencyresponse.ch). He is just busy at the moment 
doing his university degrees, but he is very interested in developing a 
MIDI-looper after that.

Florian

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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Florian Anwander
<fanwander@mnet-online.de>wrote:

> By the way. I had a short email communication on the development of a
> simple MIDI-Looper with a guy who does several cool PIC based tools (Kaspar
> from www.frequencyresponse.ch). He is just busy at the moment doing his
> university degrees, but he is very interested in developing a MIDI-looper
> after that.
>

Not sure about "a simple MIDI looper" but I would definitely think a full
featured MIDI Looper would be highly interesting. Either as a plug-in or as
a standalone application that sends its MIDI out through a virtual MIDI pipe
like Apples OS X or the MIDI Yoke hack of Windows. To me the AKAI EWI 4000s
feels just as playable and expressive as an acoustic instrument when playing
it as a MIDI controller. So being able to loop that MIDI would be awesome!
Except of MIDI note data the EWI also uses Breath (CC#2), Sustain (CC#64),
Portamento/Glide (CC#5) and Pitchbend.

A MIDI looper would need to record that stream of MIDI data just as it comes
out when you play the instrument. Then the looper would need to assign a new
MIDI channel for every new loop layer, because otherwise all the CC# data
would interfere between the layers. This limitation gives that a MIDI looper
can only record 16 layers into the loop.

There seems to be some delicate issues to solve for anyone that wants to
develop a MIDI looper. I hope your friend makes a try! For me though, having
changed all hardware gear into software on a laptop, I guess an audio looper
will continue to be the best solutions - looping the audio output of MIDI
driven electronic virtual instruments. The reason for this assumption is
that I find it hard that a computer will be able to run as many virtual
instruments at the same time for MIDI looping. I use some twenty to thirty
instrument patches when performing with the EWI and with audio looping it
doesn't tax the CPU much. Two or three patches used simultaneously in
real-time is close to what an Intel Dual 2 Core 2.26 GHz can handle.
Although it doesn't really seem realistic yet, MIDI looping is an
interesting idea ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Florian Anwander <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:fanwander@mnet-online.de">fanwander@mnet-online.de</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.=
8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div id=3D":4c" class=3D"ii gt">By the way. I had a short email communicati=
on on the development of a simple MIDI-Looper with a guy who does several c=
ool PIC based tools (Kaspar from <a href=3D"http://www.frequencyresponse.ch=
" target=3D"_blank">www.frequencyresponse.ch</a>). He is just busy at the m=
oment doing his university degrees, but he is very interested in developing=
 a MIDI-looper after that.</div>
</blockquote></div><br>Not sure about &quot;a simple MIDI looper&quot; but =
I would definitely think a full featured MIDI Looper would be highly intere=
sting. Either as a plug-in or as a standalone application that sends its MI=
DI out through a virtual MIDI pipe like Apples OS X or the MIDI Yoke hack o=
f Windows. To me the AKAI EWI 4000s feels just as playable and expressive a=
s an acoustic instrument when playing it as a MIDI controller. So being abl=
e to loop that MIDI would be awesome! Except of MIDI note data the EWI also=
 uses Breath (CC#2), Sustain (CC#64), Portamento/Glide (CC#5) and Pitchbend=
. <br>
<br>A MIDI looper would need to record that stream of MIDI data just as it =
comes out when you play the instrument. Then the looper would need to assig=
n a new MIDI channel for every new loop layer, because otherwise all the CC=
# data would interfere between the layers. This limitation gives that a MID=
I looper can only record 16 layers into the loop. <br>
<br>There seems to be some delicate issues to solve for anyone that wants t=
o develop a MIDI looper. I hope your friend makes a try! For me though, hav=
ing changed all hardware gear into software on a laptop, I guess an audio l=
ooper will continue to be the best solutions - looping the audio output of =
MIDI driven electronic virtual instruments. The reason for this assumption =
is that I find it hard that a computer will be able to run as many virtual =
instruments at the same time for MIDI looping. I use some twenty to thirty =
instrument patches when performing with the EWI and with audio looping it d=
oesn&#39;t tax the CPU much. Two or three patches used simultaneously in re=
al-time is close to what an Intel Dual 2 Core 2.26 GHz can handle. Although=
 it doesn&#39;t really seem realistic yet, MIDI looping is an interesting i=
dea ;-)<br>
<br clear=3D"all">Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen <br><a href=3D"ht=
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Hi Per

> full featured MIDI Looper would be highly interesting. Either as a 
> plug-in or as a standalone application that sends its MIDI out through 
I am talking about a hardware device:

* records notes on/off only and drops anything else.
* record, play, stop button
* four track-selector buttons
* button for MIDI-channel, tempo, loop length, bar length (for 
predefining loops if wanted), quantize
* selector for internal/external clock,
* a dial encoder for config data input
* small display
Nothing else.


Florian

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Ok, I see. I'm afraid it wouldn't be of interest for me then. I'm pretty
sure I will not be able to afford a hardware locked MIDI looper and the
feature set doesn't match my musical needs either.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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<fanwander@mnet-online.de>wrote:

> Hi Per
>
>
>  full featured MIDI Looper would be highly interesting. Either as a plug-in
>> or as a standalone application that sends its MIDI out through
>>
> I am talking about a hardware device:
>
> * records notes on/off only and drops anything else.
> * record, play, stop button
> * four track-selector buttons
> * button for MIDI-channel, tempo, loop length, bar length (for predefining
> loops if wanted), quantize
> * selector for internal/external clock,
> * a dial encoder for config data input
> * small display
> Nothing else.
>
>
> Florian
>
>

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Ok, I see. I&#39;m afraid it wouldn&#39;t be of interest for me then. I&#39=
;m pretty sure I will not be able to afford a hardware locked MIDI looper a=
nd the feature set doesn&#39;t match my musical needs either. <br><br clear=
=3D"all">
Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen <br><a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se=
">www.boysen.se</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com">www.perboysen.c=
om</a><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Florian =
Anwander <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fanwander@mnet-online.de">=
fanwander@mnet-online.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
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Hi Per<div class=3D"im"><br>
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
full featured MIDI Looper would be highly interesting. Either as a plug-in =
or as a standalone application that sends its MIDI out through <br>
</blockquote></div>
I am talking about a hardware device:<br>
<br>
* records notes on/off only and drops anything else.<br>
* record, play, stop button<br>
* four track-selector buttons<br>
* button for MIDI-channel, tempo, loop length, bar length (for predefining =
loops if wanted), quantize<br>
* selector for internal/external clock,<br>
* a dial encoder for config data input<br>
* small display<br>
Nothing else.<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
<br>
Florian<br>
<br>
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This is an interesting read by Pat Metheny about his upcoming project,
which will be a solo recording, using technology to "extend his reach".
I can't tell quite precisely what he's talking about, whether it'll be
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Florian Anwander wrote:
> Hi Per

> I am talking about a hardware device:

> * button for MIDI-channel, tempo, loop length, bar length (for 
> predefining loops if wanted), quantize

If it can do a non-pre-defined loop length that will be 
something significantly new.

andy

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This is an interesting read by Pat Metheny about his upcoming project,
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Daryl Shawn
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This is an interesting read by Pat Metheny about his upcoming project,
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Daryl Shawn
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hmm... 3 identical posts, but no link.

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:
> This is an interesting read by Pat Metheny about his upcoming project,
> which will be a solo recording, using technology to "extend his reach".
> I can't tell quite precisely what he's talking about, whether it'll be
> looping, or triggering samples, but I found fascinating to see his take
> on incorporating new technologies.
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
>
>



-- 
Warren
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Aargh...SO sorry. I got unsubbed, then signed up and tried to post. After
each of the first two messages, I got emails saying they'd been rejected,
but I guess they went through anyway. Then I forgot the damn link after all.
Bad LD member! (smacking self on head w/copy of "It's Gonna Rain"...)

Here's the linky-link:

http://www.patmetheny.com/orchestrioninfo/

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com



hmm... 3 identical posts, but no link.
>
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Aargh...SO sorry. I got unsubbed, then signed up and tried to post. After e=
ach of the first two messages, I got emails saying they&#39;d been rejected=
, but I guess they went through anyway. Then I forgot the damn link after a=
ll. Bad LD member! (smacking self on head w/copy of &quot;It&#39;s Gonna Ra=
in&quot;...)<br>
<br>Here&#39;s the linky-link:<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.patmetheny.com/=
orchestrioninfo/">http://www.patmetheny.com/orchestrioninfo/</a><br><br>Dar=
yl Shawn<br><a href=3D"http://www.swanwelder.com">www.swanwelder.com</a><br=
>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
hmm... 3 identical posts, but no link.<br>
<div><div></div><br></div></blockquote></div><br>

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Please re-send! :)
=A0
Pat Metheny rules. I was just listening to (Still Life) Talking and wished =
that incarnation of his band would reform - although I like almost everythi=
ng that Pat M. has ever done. He is a major influence on my playing. I've s=
een him more than a few times and watching him play closeup is almost a rel=
igious experience.
=A0
P

--- On Mon, 11/2/09, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:


From: Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com>
Subject: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion"
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 2:22 PM


This is an interesting read by Pat Metheny about his upcoming project,
which will be a solo recording, using technology to "extend his reach".
I can't tell quite precisely what he's talking about, whether it'll be
looping, or triggering samples, but I found fascinating to see his take
on incorporating new technologies.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com


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top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Please re-send! :)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Pat Metheny rules. I was just listening to (Still Life) Talking and wi=
shed that incarnation of his band would reform - although I like almost eve=
rything that Pat M. has ever done. He is a major influence on my playing. I=
've seen him more than a few times and watching him play closeup is almost =
a religious experience.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>P<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 11/2/09, Daryl Shawn <I>&lt;highhorse@mhorse.c=
om&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
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>Subject: Pat Metheny's "Ochestrion"<BR>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=
.com<BR>Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 2:22 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3DplainMail>This is an interesting read by Pat Metheny about his=
 upcoming project,<BR>which will be a solo recording, using technology to "=
extend his reach".<BR>I can't tell quite precisely what he's talking about,=
 whether it'll be<BR>looping, or triggering samples, but I found fascinatin=
g to see his take<BR>on incorporating new technologies.<BR><BR>Daryl Shawn<=
BR>www.swanwelder.com<BR>www.chinapaintingmusic.com<BR><BR><BR></DIV></BLOC=
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Nice.

http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.php/lang/en/id/5384/AdrenaLinn- 
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
> Nice.
>
> http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.php/lang/en/id/5384/AdrenaLinn-Sync

Maaahgaaaawd... what a sweet must-have!!!!
I suspect no other piece of gear offers

> Musical Scale Constraints -- Snap the LFO or Sequencer modulation signals
> chromatic, major, minor, pentatonic, blues, whole tone, diminished or seven
> other musical scales.
>

Per

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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Chris Sewell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lunamus=
ic@mac.com">lunamusic@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; Nice.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; =
<a href=3D"http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.php/lang/en/id/5384/Adrena=
Linn-Sync">http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.php/lang/en/id/5384/Adrena=
Linn-Sync</a><br>
<br>Maaahgaaaawd... what a sweet must-have!!!! <br>I suspect no other piece=
 of gear offers <br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 20=
4, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">
Musical Scale Constraints -- Snap the LFO or Sequencer modulation signals c=
hromatic, major, minor, pentatonic, blues, whole tone, diminished or seven =
other musical scales. <br></blockquote><br>Per

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The Line 6 FBV Express mkII is a pretty neat compact MIDI controller that
has an expression pedal with toe switch:
http://line6.com/footcontrollers/fbvexpressmkii.html

It was designed to work with their amps, but is also a bus-powered generic
USB interface.

Gorry for the late reply...catching up on old messages...

-George

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:

> I've wanted an expression pedal with a toe switch though it didn't need to
> be MIDI. This would have been for controlling feedback + hold on the
> DL8000R. This isn't that, but the toe switch is the one thing I could see
> that would be different about a wah pedal as a MIDI controller relative to
> an expression pedal.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Sep 26, 2009, at 11:46 AM, andy butler wrote:
>
> I think it's just that it's midi controllable.
>>
>> I can imagine it might be nice to have an analog wah which
>> could also be a midi controller, ...but I don't
>> that's what we have here.
>>
>> Buzap Buzap wrote:
>>
>>> Don't really get it - what's the point?
>>> I either have a "real" wah pedal or I have a midi pedal (expression
>>> pedal) controlling some software fx.
>>> best regards
>>> Buzap
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
-George

http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic

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<div>The Line 6 FBV Express mkII is a pretty neat compact MIDI controller t=
hat has an expression pedal with toe switch: <a href=3D"http://line6.com/fo=
otcontrollers/fbvexpressmkii.html">http://line6.com/footcontrollers/fbvexpr=
essmkii.html</a></div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>It was designed to work with their amps, but is also a bus-powered gen=
eric USB interface.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Gorry for the late reply...catching up on old messages...</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>-George<br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Mark Hamburg <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@grubmah.com">mark@grubmah.com</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">I&#39;ve wanted an expression pe=
dal with a toe switch though it didn&#39;t need to be MIDI. This would have=
 been for controlling feedback + hold on the DL8000R. This isn&#39;t that, =
but the toe switch is the one thing I could see that would be different abo=
ut a wah pedal as a MIDI controller relative to an expression pedal.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>Mark</font>=20
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br><br>On Sep 26, 2009, at 11:46 AM, andy butler wrote:<=
br><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">I think it&#39;s just that it&#3=
9;s midi controllable.<br><br>I can imagine it might be nice to have an ana=
log wah which<br>
could also be a midi controller, ...but I don&#39;t<br>that&#39;s what we h=
ave here.<br><br>Buzap Buzap wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Don&#39;t really get it - what&#=
39;s the point?<br>I either have a &quot;real&quot; wah pedal or I have a m=
idi pedal (expression pedal) controlling some software fx.<br>
best regards<br>Buzap<br></blockquote><br><br></blockquote><br></div></div>=
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-George<br><br><a href=
=3D"http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic">http://www.myspace.com/george=
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
> > Nice.
> >
> > http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.php/lang/en/id/5384/AdrenaLinn-Sync
>
> Maaahgaaaawd... what a sweet must-have!!!!
> I suspect no other piece of gear offers
>>
>> Musical Scale Constraints -- Snap the LFO or Sequencer modulation signals chromatic, major, minor, pentatonic, blues, whole tone, diminished or seven other musical scales.
>
> Per


Please excuse my too quick reply! The AdreanaLinn Sync Installer, for
the demo, says that untime 3.6.1 or Pluggo 3.6.1 is needed. But Pluggo
is a discontinued product of Cycling74. And the product page
http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.shtml
is not listed in the sites navigation control, meaning it is not meant
to go public?

This reminds me about that Repeater software from Electrixpro! Some
things just are too good to be true ;-))

Per

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Well thats bullshit.
On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Per Boysen wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com>  
>> wrote:
>>> Nice.
>>>
>>> http://www.macmusic.org/software/view.php/lang/en/id/5384/ 
>>> AdrenaLinn-Sync
>>
>> Maaahgaaaawd... what a sweet must-have!!!!
>> I suspect no other piece of gear offers
>>>
>>> Musical Scale Constraints -- Snap the LFO or Sequencer modulation  
>>> signals chromatic, major, minor, pentatonic, blues, whole tone,  
>>> diminished or seven other musical scales.
>>
>> Per
>
>
> Please excuse my too quick reply! The AdreanaLinn Sync Installer, for
> the demo, says that untime 3.6.1 or Pluggo 3.6.1 is needed. But Pluggo
> is a discontinued product of Cycling74. And the product page
> http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.shtml
> is not listed in the sites navigation control, meaning it is not meant
> to go public?
>
> This reminds me about that Repeater software from Electrixpro! Some
> things just are too good to be true ;-))
>
> Per
>

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No, its on the front page of the site.

http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/

Give them a call or drop them a line, they're great people and will
surely tell you what the deal is.  I started to download and got to an
actual package download so there's something there to be had.

Kevin

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
> Well thats bullshit.

>>
>>
>> Please excuse my too quick reply! The AdreanaLinn Sync Installer, for
>> the demo, says that untime 3.6.1 or Pluggo 3.6.1 is needed. But Pluggo
>> is a discontinued product of Cycling74. And the product page
>> http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.shtml
>> is not listed in the sites navigation control, meaning it is not meant
>> to go public?
>>
>> This reminds me about that Repeater software from Electrixpro! Some
>> things just are too good to be true ;-))
>>
>> Per
>>
>
>



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Good to see it is on the front page! Maybe they didn't think they need
to have a link to the product presentation page because it can be
reached by clicking the front page picture? I too downloaded the two
weeks demo installer and it was this installer that that told me
Pluggo 3.6.1 is need for the AdrenaLinn Sync. This may not a problem
for me today, being a Pluggo owner, but the fact that Pluggo is a
discontinued product makes AdrenaLinn Sync come out as a no very
future proof investment for users.

I will definitely keep monitoring the page in case some clarification
on this is to be published. This is indeed an exciting product!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando
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> No, its on the front page of the site.
>
> http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/
>
> Give them a call or drop them a line, they're great people and will
> surely tell you what the deal is. =C2=A0I started to download and got to =
an
> actual package download so there's something there to be had.
>
> Kevin
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
>> Well thats bullshit.
>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please excuse my too quick reply! The AdreanaLinn Sync Installer, for
>>> the demo, says that untime 3.6.1 or Pluggo 3.6.1 is needed. But Pluggo
>>> is a discontinued product of Cycling74. And the product page
>>> http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.shtml
>>> is not listed in the sites navigation control, meaning it is not meant
>>> to go public?
>>>
>>> This reminds me about that Repeater software from Electrixpro! Some
>>> things just are too good to be true ;-))
>>>
>>> Per
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble=
.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound and Vision: =C2=A0http://www.minds-eye.org
> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>
>

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The IK Multimedia Stealth pedal is a midi controller with a toe
switch, though I don't use the toe switch. It works great for my
needs:
http://simart.googlepages.com/StealthPedal.html

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:20 PM, George Ludwig
<georgeludwigmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Line 6 FBV Express mkII is a pretty neat compact MIDI controller that
> has an expression pedal with toe switch:
> http://line6.com/footcontrollers/fbvexpressmkii.html
>
> It was designed to work with their amps, but is also a bus-powered generic
> USB interface.
>
> Gorry for the late reply...catching up on old messages...
>
> -George
>
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> wrote:
>>
>> I've wanted an expression pedal with a toe switch though it didn't need to
>> be MIDI. This would have been for controlling feedback + hold on the
>> DL8000R. This isn't that, but the toe switch is the one thing I could see
>> that would be different about a wah pedal as a MIDI controller relative to
>> an expression pedal.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2009, at 11:46 AM, andy butler wrote:
>>
>>> I think it's just that it's midi controllable.
>>>
>>> I can imagine it might be nice to have an analog wah which
>>> could also be a midi controller, ...but I don't
>>> that's what we have here.
>>>
>>> Buzap Buzap wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Don't really get it - what's the point?
>>>> I either have a "real" wah pedal or I have a midi pedal (expression
>>>> pedal) controlling some software fx.
>>>> best regards
>>>> Buzap
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> -George
>
> http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic
>



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You lucky mac guys, I'm jealous!

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good to see it is on the front page! Maybe they didn't think they need
> to have a link to the product presentation page because it can be
> reached by clicking the front page picture? I too downloaded the two
> weeks demo installer and it was this installer that that told me
> Pluggo 3.6.1 is need for the AdrenaLinn Sync. This may not a problem
> for me today, being a Pluggo owner, but the fact that Pluggo is a
> discontinued product makes AdrenaLinn Sync come out as a no very
> future proof investment for users.
>
> I will definitely keep monitoring the page in case some clarification
> on this is to be published. This is indeed an exciting product!
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando
> <kevin@minds-eye.org> wrote:
>> No, its on the front page of the site.
>>
>> http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/
>>
>> Give them a call or drop them a line, they're great people and will
>> surely tell you what the deal is. =A0I started to download and got to an
>> actual package download so there's something there to be had.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
>>> Well thats bullshit.
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please excuse my too quick reply! The AdreanaLinn Sync Installer, for
>>>> the demo, says that untime 3.6.1 or Pluggo 3.6.1 is needed. But Pluggo
>>>> is a discontinued product of Cycling74. And the product page
>>>> http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinnsync/index.shtml
>>>> is not listed in the sites navigation control, meaning it is not meant
>>>> to go public?
>>>>
>>>> This reminds me about that Repeater software from Electrixpro! Some
>>>> things just are too good to be true ;-))
>>>>
>>>> Per
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
>> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all troubl=
e.
>>
>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>>
>> Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org
>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>>
>>
>
>



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simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimon

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i have the hardware version and though not as flexible love it very mucho!=
=0Acheers=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Per Boysen <perboysen=
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 =0A> I suspect no other piece of gear offers =0A> =0A> Musical Scale Const=
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, minor, pentatonic,=0A> blues, whole tone, diminished or seven other music=
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Sounds like Robotics to me..Hmmmmmmnnn,  I'm getting this picture of a wild
eyed Pat Metheny, his Big Hair even bigger and crazier,  leading a huge army
of instrument playing robots, all playing absolutely perfectly, as Pat
throws back his head,  cackles maniacally and starts wailing on his  Picasso
guitar which as a few extra android hands adding  other parts on the various
necks and drone strings. Perfect he laughs,  Perrrrfect
hahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Bill

 

  _____  

From: Daryl Shawn [mailto:highhorse@mhorse.com] 
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Aargh...SO sorry. I got unsubbed, then signed up and tried to post. After
each of the first two messages, I got emails saying they'd been rejected,
but I guess they went through anyway. Then I forgot the damn link after all.
Bad LD member! (smacking self on head w/copy of "It's Gonna Rain"...)

Here's the linky-link:

http://www.patmetheny.com/orchestrioninfo/

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com



 

hmm... 3 identical posts, but no link.

 

 


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From: Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com>
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Evening,
Does anybody have experience in comparing the sound of Apogees Duet to  
other interfaces.
I'm being seduced by its size and simplicity. I have an Original Motu  
Ultralite that sounds good and is very reliable. And small. I am just  
curious as to the claims of sonic superiority that Apogee   makes.

Thanks
Chris

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Howdy,
 If you go to "The House on the Rock", north of Dodgeville WI, you can see a  half dozen HUGE Orchestrions.
Rig


      

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I briefly got to try a duet against my ultralite and I thought the  
sound quality was indeed much better! Although I couldn't achieve the  
same low latency as I could with my motu ultralite in Ableton Live.  
This was awhile back on a different mac so they might have updated the  
drivers since then ......and it's funny you ask this question because  
I will be experimenting again this weekend with a Duet with my  
macbook. I will let you know if I get better performance. It's  
definitely a great deal to use for recording just not sure if I would  
want to use it for live performance.

Todd Matthews
On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Chris Sewell wrote:

> Evening,
> Does anybody have experience in comparing the sound of Apogees Duet  
> to other interfaces.
> I'm being seduced by its size and simplicity. I have an Original  
> Motu Ultralite that sounds good and is very reliable. And small. I  
> am just curious as to the claims of sonic superiority that Apogee    
> makes.
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>

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 >> * button for MIDI-channel, tempo, loop length, bar length (for=20
 >> predefining loops if wanted), quantize
> If it can do a non-pre-defined loop length that will be=20
> something significantly new.

Herb Heinz and I demonstrated a MIDI looper called Hoops at Y2K5 that =
didn't use pre-defined loop lengths, see http://nosuch.com/tjt/hoops .  =
It was a technology demonstration and hacker's toy, though, not a =
product.=20

    ...Tim...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoJDQEPPd1jU




-----Original Message-----

From: William Walker=20
Sent: Nov 2, 2009 7:27 PM
To: 'Daryl Shawn' , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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Sounds like Robotics to me=E2=80=A6.Hmmmmmmnnn,
 I=E2=80=99m getting this picture of a wild eyed Pat Metheny, his Big Hair =
even
bigger and crazier,  leading a huge army of instrument playing robots, all
playing absolutely perfectly, as Pat throws back his head,  cackles maniaca=
lly
and starts wailing on his  Picasso guitar which as a few extra android hand=
s
adding  other parts on the various necks and drone strings. Perfect he laug=
hs,  Perrrrfect
hahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=20

Bill

=20










=20









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I gave a talk about my Monolith 2.0 installation (a 2-person MIDI =
looper) last week and created some slides to describe the geeky details:

	http://nosuch.com/tjt/bm/monolith_2_at_lovetechsf.pdf

This MIDI looper (unlike Hoops) uses pre-defined/selectable loop =
lengths.

   ...Tim...

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Hi Andy

> If it can do a non-pre-defined loop length that will be something 
> significantly new.
Not really. In Emagic/Apple Logic the part you are recording does not 
have to have a defined loop length and you can set it to loopmode 
immediately.

But for any hardware solution it would be new indeed. Our (partial) 
model was the Roland CSQ-100/600 sequencers (but those miss the quantizing).
Especially the CSQ600 has this synced recording start, which knows about 
the ryhtmic structure, but is not bound to a dedicated loop length. 
Means: It knows where the first beat of pattern is, and starts recording 
there, but you can stop the recording (=make the loop) at any time.

Florian

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Hi Chris

my impression is that Apogee Duet is supreme for recording (if you're ok with Mac-only and break-out cable concept), but for live looping performance, I'd probably prefer the Motu Ultralite.

See this for details:
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/low-end-theory/334049-new-motu-ultralite-mk3-vs-apogee-duet.html

Duet:
+Sound quality (in and out)
+Elegant, simple design
+The Apogee brand
-Only 2in/2out
-Closed system (can't upgrade at later stage)

Ultralite MK3:
+/-Sound quality
+Comprehensive routing options
+Expandable
-Paying for DSP effects I probably won't use
-Possibly complex to set up and operate (Cuemix vs Maestro)

best regards
Buzap

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On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
> Apogees Duet


I recently used an Apogee Duet on a "producer seminar" tour and found
it perfect for the situation where you talk and and play around laptop
audio. It was Apple that put me there with that audio interface but I
couldn't have chosen a better one myself for this situation. The big
master volume knob on the top is great for grabbing on the fly and
adapt the playback level as you go. I imagine it would be great for
mixing too, if using the technique to move between alternative
acoustic playback levels in order to keep your listening fresh as long
as possible. I did not record through it though.

One thing I would have wished the Duet to have is an extra power feed.
This is a good thing to have when playing concerts with a firewire
audio interface. I have noticed with my own FW boxes, and heard from
other musicians, that the firewire cable can easily lose connection if
the computer is moved on the table or if the firewire cable happens to
hang down getting poked by mistake as you reach for a plectrum or
something. If the full power feed to the interface goesthrough this
firewire cable such a short break will cause the system to swap over
to the computer's built-in audio interface; PA audio silenced. If
using an extra power feed besides the firewire cable the effect will
not be that drastic.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Today finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! From Pat's
description it sounds pretty close to what people on this list are doing:

a new performance method to present music alone onstage using acoustic and
> acoustoelectric musical instruments that are mechanically controlled using
> the power of modern technology.
>

Can't wait to hear and see what it really is about! :-)
I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible?

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Today finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! From Pat&#39;s =
description it sounds pretty close to what people on this list are doing: <=
br><br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); marg=
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a new performance method to present music alone onstage using acoustic and =
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the power of modern technology.<br></blockquote><br>Can&#39;t wait to hear =
and see what it really is about! :-) <br>
I wonder if &quot;ensemble orchestrionization&quot; is also possible?<br><b=
r>Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen <br><a href=3D"http://www.boysen.=
se">www.boysen.se</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com">www.perboysen=
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Hi Chris,
I use an Ultralite mk3. I've not tested the Duet myself but according
to internet forums and reviews the Duet offers the best sound quality
in this price range. But to be honest, I think you can't really
compare the Duet and Ultralite, the specs differ a lot so they are
simply different beasts ;-) My recommendation: if you need top quality
pre-amps for vocals and acoustic guitar and nothing else, I think the
Duet might be a better choice. If you are looking for an allround
multi-track interface for both live and studio usage, go for the
Ultralite.

An additional plus for the Ultralite is that it has multiple balanced
output's. This means it's easy to setup 2 main mixes, one for your own
monitor (usuallly unbalanced) and one for FOH (balanced). No DI's
needed.

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http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/

Did a second download today, but the installer still lacks the plug-in
files. What gets installed is a the PDF manual and a zip archive containing
the license manager applications. To get the 14 days demo license I guess
you would need to also download the actual plug-in files, which do not seem
to have been posted yet. Reading the PDF manual got me very interested and I
hope Linn will wrap up this release soon. Even though the needed Pluggo and
Runtime are discontinued by Cycling74, in favor of Max For Live, they are
fully Intel Mac compatible and I have not seen any warning that Pluggo and
Runtime should not work with Snow Leopard. If that is correct one could say
we will be able to use the AdrenaLinn Sync software long enough to justify
buying it.

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<a href=3D"http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ro=
gerlinndesign.com/</a><br><br>Did a second download today, but the installe=
r still lacks the plug-in files. What gets installed is a the PDF manual an=
d a zip archive containing the license manager applications. To get the 14 =
days demo license I guess you would need to also download the actual plug-i=
n files, which do not seem to have been posted yet. Reading the PDF manual =
got me very interested and I hope Linn will wrap up this release soon. Even=
 though the needed Pluggo and Runtime are discontinued by Cycling74, in fav=
or of Max For Live, they are fully Intel Mac compatible and I have not seen=
 any warning that Pluggo and Runtime should not work with Snow Leopard. If =
that is correct one could say we will be able to use the AdrenaLinn Sync so=
ftware long enough to justify buying it. <br>
<br>Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen <br><a href=3D"http://www.boyse=
n.se">www.boysen.se</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com">www.perboys=
en.com</a><br>
<br>

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Bidule has been upgraded, looks like it has some new features too.

http://www.kvraudio.com/news/12858.html

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On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:

> Bidule has been upgraded, looks like it has some new features too.
>
> http://www.kvraudio.com/news/12858.html
>


Thanks for the hint! Downloading right now.

Greetings from Sweden

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On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:tcplugin@gmail.com">tcplugin@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"bor=
der-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-=
left: 1ex;">
<div id=3D":ow" class=3D"ii gt">Bidule has been upgraded, looks like it has=
 some new features too.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.kvraudio.com/news/12858.html" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//www.kvraudio.com/news/12858.html</a></div></blockquote></div><br><br>Than=
ks for the hint! Downloading right now. <br><br>Greetings from Sweden<br><b=
r>
Per Boysen <br><a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se">www.boysen.se</a><br><a hre=
f=3D"http://www.perboysen.com">www.perboysen.com</a><br>
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Throwing another option into the mix, does anyone have experience with  
Mackie's Firewire interfaces?

I'm looking to replace my M-Audio FireWire Audiophile because it  
doesn't respond well to being turned off and on since it only wants to  
establish a connection with the computer at startup. This is  
presumably a driver issue, but it really stinks since I don't want to  
reboot my computer to connect to my audio interface.

Mark

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I gotta run to work but I wanted to give you a quick update. I spent  
this morning A/B'in the Ultralite and Duet. I have a Mk I Ultralite  
just to put that out there. I 'm not sure if there are different  
components used in the Mk III.

The Duet does sound much better mic pre wise and for live usage I've  
going into the Duet and setting the XLR to +4dBu. My preamp for my  
double bass blends a pickup and mic and this gets a really clean  
signal into the Duet. When you switch it to this setting you don't  
control the volume with the Duet you control it from the preamp I  
realized. It sound amazing and most of the time I spent playing within  
Ableton Live with a buffer setting of 256. Just dring the last 15  
minutes I switched it 128 to get lower latency and I didn't get any  
pops or clicks but it's way too early to decide if that usable for a  
live setting or not. If I can at least get by with a 256 buffer  
setting this is going to be the perfect device for me so I can record  
a high quality demo with the pianist I play with and I can use it to  
play our shows. My new preamp/blender is the same size as the duet so  
it will be amazing if it all works out having a smaller footprint.  
I'll keep you updated as I keep plugging away.


Todd Matthews
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> Evening,
> Does anybody have experience in comparing the sound of Apogees Duet  
> to other interfaces.
> I'm being seduced by its size and simplicity. I have an Original  
> Motu Ultralite that sounds good and is very reliable. And small. I  
> am just curious as to the claims of sonic superiority that Apogee    
> makes.
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>

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> Throwing another option into the mix, does anyone have experience with  
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Hi Mark

I love my Mackie Onyx mixer and the FW interface is ok, quite happy with latency.
However there are two major drawbacks for me:
1. An input signal at very high level results in very low signal strength in the computer DAW. Even with max. volume on FW interface, I get ca. 20% volume in computer when I have 100% volume input signal strength.
2. The output signal level coming from the computer is insanely high. You cannot balance control the signal level (computer vs. mixer). So, let's say I'm listening to a CD on my mixer, when my computer starts playing music via Firwire, it just blows off my ears. 

These are quite subjective impressions - esp. focused on Mackie Firwire along with Mackie Mixer - , so feel free to google reviews. 

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> acoustoelectric

What was wrong with electro-acoustic? :)

R

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On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Today finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! From  
> Pat's description it sounds pretty close to what people on this list  
> are doing:
>
> a new performance method to present music alone onstage using  
> acoustic and acoustoelectric musical instruments that are  
> mechanically controlled using the power of modern technology.
>
> Can't wait to hear and see what it really is about! :-)
> I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible?
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com

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i guess electro-acoustic is more electro than acoustic :-)

2009/11/3 Ricky Graham <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com>

> acoustoelectric
>
>
> What was wrong with electro-acoustic? :)
>
> R
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Today finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! From Pat's
> description it sounds pretty close to what people on this list are doing:
>
> a new performance method to present music alone onstage using acoustic and
>> acoustoelectric musical instruments that are mechanically controlled using
>> the power of modern technology.
>>
>
> Can't wait to hear and see what it really is about! :-)
> I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible?
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> <http://www.boysen.se>www.boysen.se
> <http://www.perboysen.com>www.perboysen.com
>
>


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i guess electro-acoustic is more electro than acoustic :-) <br><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote">2009/11/3 Ricky Graham <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com">rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com</a>=
&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor=3D"#=
FFFFFF"><div><span><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0p=
t 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
acoustoelectric</blockquote></div></blockquote><div><br></div>What was wron=
g with electro-acoustic? :)</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><s=
pan>R<br></span><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"=
h5">
<div><br>On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Per Boysen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perb=
oysen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><b=
r></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Today finally that page l=
oaded. Quite interesting write-up! From Pat&#39;s description it sounds pre=
tty close to what people on this list are doing: <br>
<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin:=
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a new performance method to present music alone onstage using acoustic and =
acoustoelectric musical instruments that are mechanically controlled using =
the power of modern technology.<br></blockquote><br>Can&#39;t wait to hear =
and see what it really is about! :-) <br>

I wonder if &quot;ensemble orchestrionization&quot; is also possible?<br><b=
r>Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen <br><a href=3D"http://www.boysen.=
se" target=3D"_blank"></a><a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank=
">www.boysen.se</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank"></a><a href=3D"http:=
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which preamp is that todd? for micing live, i use a Ted Fletcher P4, small,
stereo, with compressor and limiter.

2009/11/3 Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>

> I gotta run to work but I wanted to give you a quick update. I spent this
> morning A/B'in the Ultralite and Duet. I have a Mk I Ultralite just to put
> that out there. I 'm not sure if there are different components used in the
> Mk III.
>
> The Duet does sound much better mic pre wise and for live usage I've going
> into the Duet and setting the XLR to +4dBu. My preamp for my double bass
> blends a pickup and mic and this gets a really clean signal into the Duet.
> When you switch it to this setting you don't control the volume with the
> Duet you control it from the preamp I realized. It sound amazing and most of
> the time I spent playing within Ableton Live with a buffer setting of 256.
> Just dring the last 15 minutes I switched it 128 to get lower latency and I
> didn't get any pops or clicks but it's way too early to decide if that
> usable for a live setting or not. If I can at least get by with a 256 buffer
> setting this is going to be the perfect device for me so I can record a high
> quality demo with the pianist I play with and I can use it to play our
> shows. My new preamp/blender is the same size as the duet so it will be
> amazing if it all works out having a smaller footprint. I'll keep you
> updated as I keep plugging away.
>
>
>
> Todd Matthews
> On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Chris Sewell wrote:
>
>  Evening,
>> Does anybody have experience in comparing the sound of Apogees Duet to
>> other interfaces.
>> I'm being seduced by its size and simplicity. I have an Original Motu
>> Ultralite that sounds good and is very reliable. And small. I am just
>> curious as to the claims of sonic superiority that Apogee   makes.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Chris
>>
>>
>


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which preamp is that todd? for micing live, i use a Ted Fletcher P4, small,=
 stereo, with compressor and limiter.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">200=
9/11/3 Todd Matthews <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gtmatthews@gma=
il.com">gtmatthews@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I gotta run to wo=
rk but I wanted to give you a quick update. I spent this morning A/B&#39;in=
 the Ultralite and Duet. I have a Mk I Ultralite just to put that out there=
. I &#39;m not sure if there are different components used in the Mk III.<b=
r>

<br>
The Duet does sound much better mic pre wise and for live usage I&#39;ve go=
ing into the Duet and setting the XLR to +4dBu. My preamp for my double bas=
s blends a pickup and mic and this gets a really clean signal into the Duet=
. When you switch it to this setting you don&#39;t control the volume with =
the Duet you control it from the preamp I realized. It sound amazing and mo=
st of the time I spent playing within Ableton Live with a buffer setting of=
 256. Just dring the last 15 minutes I switched it 128 to get lower latency=
 and I didn&#39;t get any pops or clicks but it&#39;s way too early to deci=
de if that usable for a live setting or not. If I can at least get by with =
a 256 buffer setting this is going to be the perfect device for me so I can=
 record a high quality demo with the pianist I play with and I can use it t=
o play our shows. My new preamp/blender is the same size as the duet so it =
will be amazing if it all works out having a smaller footprint. I&#39;ll ke=
ep you updated as I keep plugging away.<div class=3D"im">
<br>
<br>
<br>
Todd Matthews<br>
On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Chris Sewell wrote:<br>
<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8e=
x; padding-left: 1ex;">
Evening,<br>
Does anybody have experience in comparing the sound of Apogees Duet to othe=
r interfaces.<br>
I&#39;m being seduced by its size and simplicity. I have an Original Motu U=
ltralite that sounds good and is very reliable. And small. I am just curiou=
s as to the claims of sonic superiority that Apogee =A0 makes.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Chris<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
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Thanks so much Todd.
On Nov 3, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Todd Matthews wrote:

> I gotta run to work but I wanted to give you a quick update. I  
> spent this morning A/B'in the Ultralite and Duet. I have a Mk I  
> Ultralite just to put that out there. I 'm not sure if there are  
> different components used in the Mk III.
>
> The Duet does sound much better mic pre wise and for live usage  
> I've going into the Duet and setting the XLR to +4dBu. My preamp  
> for my double bass blends a pickup and mic and this gets a really  
> clean signal into the Duet. When you switch it to this setting you  
> don't control the volume with the Duet you control it from the  
> preamp I realized. It sound amazing and most of the time I spent  
> playing within Ableton Live with a buffer setting of 256. Just  
> dring the last 15 minutes I switched it 128 to get lower latency  
> and I didn't get any pops or clicks but it's way too early to  
> decide if that usable for a live setting or not. If I can at least  
> get by with a 256 buffer setting this is going to be the perfect  
> device for me so I can record a high quality demo with the pianist  
> I play with and I can use it to play our shows. My new preamp/ 
> blender is the same size as the duet so it will be amazing if it  
> all works out having a smaller footprint. I'll keep you updated as  
> I keep plugging away.
>
>
> Todd Matthews
> On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Chris Sewell wrote:
>
>> Evening,
>> Does anybody have experience in comparing the sound of Apogees  
>> Duet to other interfaces.
>> I'm being seduced by its size and simplicity. I have an Original  
>> Motu Ultralite that sounds good and is very reliable. And small. I  
>> am just curious as to the claims of sonic superiority that  
>> Apogee   makes.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Chris
>>
>

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Interesting, Raul. I'll bare that in mind. :) Thank you.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 3, 2009, at 6:14 PM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:

> i guess electro-acoustic is more electro than acoustic :-)
>
> 2009/11/3 Ricky Graham <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com>
>> acoustoelectric
>
> What was wrong with electro-acoustic? :)
>
> R
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Today finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! From  
>> Pat's description it sounds pretty close to what people on this  
>> list are doing:
>>
>> a new performance method to present music alone onstage using  
>> acoustic and acoustoelectric musical instruments that are  
>> mechanically controlled using the power of modern technology.
>>
>> Can't wait to hear and see what it really is about! :-)
>> I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible?
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
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>
>
> -- 
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> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
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<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Interesting, Raul. I'll bare that in mind. :) Thank you. &nbsp;<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Nov 3, 2009, at 6:14 PM, Raul Bonell &lt;<a href="mailto:raul.bonell@gmail.com">raul.bonell@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>i guess electro-acoustic is more electro than acoustic :-) <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/11/3 Ricky Graham <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com"><a href="mailto:rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com">rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com</a></a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><span><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
acoustoelectric</blockquote></div></blockquote><div><br></div>What was wrong with electro-acoustic? :)</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>R<br></span><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">
<div><br>On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Per Boysen &lt;<a href="mailto:perboysen@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a></a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Today finally that page loaded. Quite interesting write-up! From Pat's description it sounds pretty close to what people on this list are doing: <br>
<br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">
a new performance method to present music alone onstage using acoustic and acoustoelectric musical instruments that are mechanically controlled using the power of modern technology.<br></blockquote><br>Can't wait to hear and see what it really is about! :-) <br>

I wonder if "ensemble orchestrionization" is also possible?<br><br>Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen <br><a href="http://www.boysen.se" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.boysen.se" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.boysen.se">www.boysen.se</a></a><br>
<a href="http://www.perboysen.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.perboysen.com" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.perboysen.com">www.perboysen.com</a></a><br>
</div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell at Blogger: <a href="http://raulbonell.blogspot.com"><a href="http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://raulbonell.blogspot.com</a></a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href="http://www.ct-collective.com"><a href="http://www.ct-collective.com">http://www.ct-collective.com</a></a><br>
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Please i want to transfer to overseas ($11,300,000.00USD)Eleven million thr=
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RS and the former owner of the account MR.HAJI EL JAMAL ZOUE is a foreigner=
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t.

I will apply for annual leave to get visa immediately I hear from you that =
you are ready to act and receive this fund in your account.

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rom the relevant ministries and foreign exchange departments.

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ve email address at (mrjea02@msn.com)


Regards and God Blessed.
Yours Brother
MR.ALHAJI IBRAHIM JEGA
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Hi all,

I've secured an invite to the Eigenharp Roadshow next week.

Let me know if anyone has any questions you'd like me to ask.


cheers,
os.

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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:
> I've secured an invite to the Eigenharp Roadshow next week.
>
> Let me know if anyone has any questions you'd like me to ask.


I'd like to hear about the company's plans on a future model that
focuses on controlling external electronics and that doesn't come with
all the on-board sound banks and built-in audio engine. Some of the
reps mentioned this briefly in a video but without going into details.

Background:
I'm not comfy with the idea of buying an electronic/mechanic
instrument where you pay a lot of money for its ability to play
on-board sounds, that you might not even like. And if you want a
bigger sound palette it is the same company that provides the
expansion libraries. This marketing concept sort of contradicts
everything that is cool and creative to me with modularity,
open-source, community... and music.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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Hi Per,

I think you need to re-read what's already online. There are no
onboard sounds at all - it's all done on the Mac.


cheers,
os.


2009/11/4 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>:
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:
>> I've secured an invite to the Eigenharp Roadshow next week.
>>
>> Let me know if anyone has any questions you'd like me to ask.
>
>
> I'd like to hear about the company's plans on a future model that
> focuses on controlling external electronics and that doesn't come with
> all the on-board sound banks and built-in audio engine. Some of the
> reps mentioned this briefly in a video but without going into details.
>
> Background:
> I'm not comfy with the idea of buying an electronic/mechanic
> instrument where you pay a lot of money for its ability to play
> on-board sounds, that you might not even like. And if you want a
> bigger sound palette it is the same company that provides the
> expansion libraries. This marketing concept sort of contradicts
> everything that is cool and creative to me with modularity,
> open-source, community... and music.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>



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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:
> I think you need to re-read what's already online. There are no
> onboard sounds at all - it's all done on the Mac.

Ah, that's good news! I was under the impression that the Mac software
is just a sort of extension of the Eigenharp's built-in hardware.
Anyway, I'm still interested in hearing about advanced controller
capabilities. MIDI and OSC specifications? How many physical
continuous controller tools? Do they work at the same time as you are
playing "notes"? Someone mentioned in a video it is "Apple Loop
compatible", so does that mean you import an Apple Loop into a memory
and trig it from the pads on the Eigenharp? Or can you even create an
Apple Loop *inside* the Eigenharp from what you are playing? And if
that is possible - is the process real-time or is it like in Logic;
you load up a utility where you type in characteristics for the loop
and save it to disk.

per

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Some of this is already answered:

> MIDI and OSC specifications?

No OSC yet.
"Almost any control from the keyboard or MIDI inputs can be used to
manipulate any parameter in the system."
"Hardware MIDI Output interface."
"Hardware MIDI Input interface."
see http://www.eigenlabs.com/software/

> How many physical
> continuous controller tools?

132 keys x 3 axes per key
2 ribbons
1 breathe pipe
see http://www.eigenlabs.com/alpha/

> Do they work at the same time as you are
> playing "notes"?

yes

> Someone mentioned in a video it is "Apple Loop
> compatible", so does that mean you import an Apple Loop into a memory
> and trig it from the pads on the Eigenharp?

yes - http://www.eigenlabs.com/software/

> Or can you even create an
> Apple Loop *inside* the Eigenharp from what you are playing? And if
> that is possible - is the process real-time or is it like in Logic;
> you load up a utility where you type in characteristics for the loop
> and save it to disk.

I've not heard of any real-time looping capability.


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Hi Per,

I think it uses it's own protocol. There are some informative interviews 
here and so on;

Linkage;
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/10/06/first-look-the-eigenlabs-eigenharp/

http://www.youtube.com/user/eigenlabs
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8294355.stm


Best,

Ricky

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> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:
>> I think you need to re-read what's already online. There are no
>> onboard sounds at all - it's all done on the Mac.
>
> Ah, that's good news! I was under the impression that the Mac software
> is just a sort of extension of the Eigenharp's built-in hardware.
> Anyway, I'm still interested in hearing about advanced controller
> capabilities. MIDI and OSC specifications? How many physical
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> playing "notes"? Someone mentioned in a video it is "Apple Loop
> compatible", so does that mean you import an Apple Loop into a memory
> and trig it from the pads on the Eigenharp? Or can you even create an
> Apple Loop *inside* the Eigenharp from what you are playing? And if
> that is possible - is the process real-time or is it like in Logic;
> you load up a utility where you type in characteristics for the loop
> and save it to disk.
>
> per
> 

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There's a review of Eigenharp in this months Sound On Sound.

No mention of Osc.

Each button is polyhonically pressure sensitive,
and sends controllers if pushed in either X or Y axis.

2 Ribbon controllers, absolute or relative either side of "fingerboard".
Main controller is connected to a base station by a "starquad cable".
...which indicates a serial protocol, so I'd be checking for
 latency beyond that expected by a usb controller. 

Anyway, I guess you guys are more into the pico.
18 keys
4 simple buttons
usb connection (no base station)
Â£349


Both models use the same control software, which can
host soundfont, au and send out midi & audio.

To get any flexibility worth having, you need to learn a
language called "Belcanto", something the reviewer did not
attempt.

andy butler
personally, I'm sticking with the klarnet :-)


Per Boysen wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:
>> I think you need to re-read what's already online. There are no
>> onboard sounds at all - it's all done on the Mac.
> 
> Ah, that's good news! I was under the impression that the Mac software
> is just a sort of extension of the Eigenharp's built-in hardware.
> Anyway, I'm still interested in hearing about advanced controller
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> and trig it from the pads on the Eigenharp? Or can you even create an
> Apple Loop *inside* the Eigenharp from what you are playing? And if
> that is possible - is the process real-time or is it like in Logic;
> you load up a utility where you type in characteristics for the loop
> and save it to disk.
> 
> per
> 
> 

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Per Boysen wrote:

>  Someone mentioned in a video it is "Apple Loop
> compatible", so does that mean you import an Apple Loop into a memory
> and trig it from the pads on the Eigenharp? 

yes

>Or can you even create an
> Apple Loop *inside* the Eigenharp from what you are playing?

you can plug in a microphone, the reviewer thought you could loop it

> And if
> that is possible - is the process real-time or is it like in Logic;
> you load up a utility where you type in characteristics for the loop
> and save it to disk.

maybe google "Belcanto"

> 
> per
> 
> 

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If I remember right, they intentionally ditched OSC.

I thought they _did_ have own sounds included in the Eigenharp -giving it stand-alone capability?

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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:
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> I've not heard of any real-time looping capability.

Just noticed they demonstrate that at 14 minutes into this video:
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/10/06/first-look-the-eigenlabs-eigenharp/

Don't know if that's supposed to be labeled "audio looping" or "MIDI
looping" though, so let's just call it "Eigenharp looping" ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

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> If I remember right, they intentionally ditched OSC.

the line was that they needed to define their own protocol for
robustness of transmission in a live situation.

it's likely (according to one interview I watched) that they'll
implement an OSC interface module in the software, just like they've
implemented a MIDI interface module.

> I thought they _did_ have own sounds included in the Eigenharp -giving it stand-alone capability?

definitely not. they quite specifically wanted to avoid this route to
prevent obsolescence.


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no obvious looping, but this is one of the most striking and
hauntingly beautiful albums I've heard in a while.

http://www.emusic.com/album/Tujiko-Noriko-U-MP3-Download/11291677.html


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Just caught wind of this earlier today.

=46or those of you who are fans of quirky sound=20
generators and/or tiny percussion instruments, it=20
looks like we're approaching the imminent release=20
of the Stylophone BeatBox (=20
http://www.stylophonica.com./index.php/the-news ).

=46rom their webpage:

"After the success of the S1 [Stylophone] became=20
apparent, Dubreq were asked directly if we could=20
come up with some ideas for 'follow-on' products=20
for the Stylophone brand, the BeatBox was the=20
obvious first choice....

The BeatBox features three all new voices, an=20
electronic drum kit with useful percussion=20
sounds, a human beat-box voice... and finally a=20
'bass' voice which give a bass melody option to=20
allow you to play a bass line (or set up a=20
repeating bass loop) to accompany another=20
instrument"

Here's a video Brett Domino performing a demo=20
using two Stylophone Beatboxes:=20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhELTtsBRie4

And, it looks like it's got rudimentary looping=20
capability, so you can do percussion/bassline=20
overdubs(!).

As far as I can tell, it looks like it might be a=20
nice percussion complement to any hardware Looper=20
who's trying to keep their setup small and light.=20
Cheap too, with a MSRP to be set at =A319.99.

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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:
> Let me know if anyone has any questions you'd like me to ask.


At second thought I think this would be the most interesting question:

It would be great if there will be someone at the Eigenharp Roadshow
that has practiced playing the instrument with a twelve tone scale
setting, as opposed to the "pre fixed" scales demonstrated in the
videos. Maybe someone has explored alternative chromatic fingerings as
a tool to play different "harmonic key scales with instant
out-of-key-note access"? If you could ask this person what "the feel
is" to play it that way? How smoothly can one run through harmonic
melodies according to a scale and throw in out-of-key notes
spontaneously?

I mean, on a guitar this is very smooth because (harmonic) keys can be
viewed as patterns on the neck while you would still have instant
access to any note outside the actual key's pattern, on a piano it is
sort of "middle ground" because of white and black keys differing in
weight and positioning while on a clarinet each (harmonic) key needs
learning a new pattern. I would guess the Eigenharp can be used
similar to an EWI in this regard: learning to play scales within a 12
note chromatic fingering pattern and eventually simply transpose the
pitch of the entire instrument? And also: learning many alternative
chromatic fingerings that can all be used as the basis to play scales
for different keys so you can then chose your fingering pattern
depending on what melodies you intend to play and simply hit the
correct sounding key by transposing the entire instrument's pitch
accordingly.

Has someone explored this on the Eigenharp?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Yess! very interesting i want one.. or two! <br>
where can i buy it? (on the web)<br>
<br>
Max Liver<br>
<br>
Mech ha scritto:
<blockquote cite="mid:p06240806c717525c1418@%5B10.0.1.3%5D" type="cite">Just
caught wind of this earlier today.
  <br>
  <br>
For those of you who are fans of quirky sound generators and/or tiny
percussion instruments, it looks like we're approaching the imminent
release of the Stylophone BeatBox (
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.stylophonica.com./index.php/the-news">http://www.stylophonica.com./index.php/the-news</a> ).
  <br>
  <br>
>From their webpage:
  <br>
  <br>
"After the success of the S1 [Stylophone] became apparent, Dubreq were
asked directly if we could come up with some ideas for 'follow-on'
products for the Stylophone brand, the BeatBox was the obvious first
choice....
  <br>
  <br>
The BeatBox features three all new voices, an electronic drum kit with
useful percussion sounds, a human beat-box voice... and finally a
'bass' voice which give a bass melody option to allow you to play a
bass line (or set up a repeating bass loop) to accompany another
instrument"
  <br>
  <br>
Here's a video Brett Domino performing a demo using two Stylophone
Beatboxes: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hELTtsBRie4">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hELTtsBRie4</a>
  <br>
  <br>
And, it looks like it's got rudimentary looping capability, so you can
do percussion/bassline overdubs(!).
  <br>
  <br>
As far as I can tell, it looks like it might be a nice percussion
complement to any hardware Looper who's trying to keep their setup
small and light. Cheap too, with a MSRP to be set at &pound;19.99.
  <br>
  <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;--m.
  <br>
</blockquote>
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> Let me know if anyone has any questions you'd like me to ask.

Windows?

-Michael

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I bought it here: price 25 $
https://100milligrams.com/index.php
i hope!

Max Liver
>  Yess! very interesting i want one.. or two!
> where can i buy it? (on the web)
>
> Max Liver
>
> Mech ha scritto:
>> Just caught wind of this earlier today.
>>
>> For those of you who are fans of quirky sound generators and/or tiny 
>> percussion instruments, it looks like we're approaching the imminent 
>> release of the Stylophone BeatBox ( 
>> http://www.stylophonica.com./index.php/the-news ).
>>
>> >From their webpage:
>>
>> "After the success of the S1 [Stylophone] became apparent, Dubreq 
>> were asked directly if we could come up with some ideas for 
>> 'follow-on' products for the Stylophone brand, the BeatBox was the 
>> obvious first choice....
>>
>> The BeatBox features three all new voices, an electronic drum kit 
>> with useful percussion sounds, a human beat-box voice... and finally 
>> a 'bass' voice which give a bass melody option to allow you to play a 
>> bass line (or set up a repeating bass loop) to accompany another 
>> instrument"
>>
>> Here's a video Brett Domino performing a demo using two Stylophone 
>> Beatboxes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hELTtsBRie4
>>
>> And, it looks like it's got rudimentary looping capability, so you 
>> can do percussion/bassline overdubs(!).
>>
>> As far as I can tell, it looks like it might be a nice percussion 
>> complement to any hardware Looper who's trying to keep their setup 
>> small and light. Cheap too, with a MSRP to be set at £19.99.
>>
>>     --m.
>
>
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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
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> Windows?

It was said in one of the interviews that Windows support is in the pipeline.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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I seem to be giving this link a lot today :)

http://www.eigenlabs.com/software/

"Windows software support expected January 2010."


os.


2009/11/4 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>:
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
>>
>> Windows?
>
> It was said in one of the interviews that Windows support is in the pipeline.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>



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She's one of my favorites too. "From Tokyo to Naiagara" is also a great
album.


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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:

> no obvious looping, but this is one of the most striking and
> hauntingly beautiful albums I've heard in a while.
>
> http://www.emusic.com/album/Tujiko-Noriko-U-MP3-Download/11291677.html
>
>
> cheers,
> os.
>
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no obvious looping, but this is one of the most striking and<br>
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<br>
cheers,<br>
os.<br>
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I just received a Novation Launchpad and thought some of you might be
interested in some technical details.

It works fine with Live, I won't go into detail on that since I'm more
interested in using it with other applications, but if I were a heavy
Live user I would definitely get one.

It speaks normal MIDI so with some work it can be used with other
applications.  If you have Novation's Automap utility you can do some
basic mapping of pads to plugin parameters but to get the most out of
it you will need to write code or Max/MSP patches to control it.

It's about 10 inches square and 1/2 inch thick.  Build quality is
okay, the case is plastic but it feels solid enough.  If you dropped
it it would probably survive.  It has to sit on a table, there is no
stand socket on the bottom.

The pads are smaller than on most drum pad controllers like the
Trigger Finger, less than an inch square.  They are not velocity
sensitive which makes this of limited use as a drum controller.
Pressing a pad produces a soft "click" that you can feel but not hear.
This let's you know the button has been engaged but I found it
slightly annoying.

The pictures and most of the videos make it look like the default
state of the buttons are bright white but they're not.  When a button
is off, it has a slightly translucent dull grey color which is not
that bad but not nearly as pretty as it looks in pictures.  Under each
pad are two LEDs one green and one red.  These can be set to one of
three shades (low, medium, and high) and combined to produce shades of
yellow and orange.  They don't do white.

In theory you have 16 shades available for each button (4 states
squared).  In practice many of the shades that combine red and green
are so slightly different that they can't be used as static
indicators.  You can use them to show "movement" by cycling through
the shades, you'll see the difference when they change.  But for
buttons that just glow one color it's hard to tell the difference
between "Red Low + Green Low" and "Red Low + Green Medium".  Also
there is variance in the brightness of the leds from pad to pad so
when combining them to make yellow it looks quite "splotchy", some are
very yellow and others look like pale green.

So in practice I found around 6 or 7 really distinct shades that could
be used as static indicators.  The rest could be used to make
pulsating lightshows like the Kaoss pad.  Overall I was a bit
disappointed in the colors, it is not as pretty as the videos or the
picture on the box, but hey the price is still reasonable.

It is not programmable.  It only sends a fixed set of MIDI notes for
each pad and CC's for the buttons along the top.  All are on channel 1
and this cannot be changed.  So if you want to combine this with MIDI
from another source, say an FCB1010, you'll have to reprogram the FCB
to send on a different channel, or do channel mapping in software.

The videos make it look like it has "pages" for example in Mixer mode
there is a page for volume control, one for pan, etc.  This is all
done in Live.  The Launchpad itself doesn't change what notes the pads
send when you select page buttons, the application has to watch for
the page buttons and dynamically change note mappings to do different
things.

For example, in the demo for controlling track levels, each column of
pads acts like a "fader".  The pads light up from the bottom to
whatever pad you press, press the top pad and the fader is all the way
up, press a pad in the center and the fader is around halfway up, etc.
The hardware is not magically converting this into CC7 for the
application, it's just sending notes and it is up to the application
to respond to them and turn the other lights in the column on or
off.  This is why with Automap you can't do much with this besides
trigger things.  There are no knobs and the virtual faders are a
trick supported only by Live.

So in summary, if you're a Max hacker or write your own applications,
it is possible to do everything Live does and more but it will take
some work.   This will work well for controlling Mobius since
the architecture is fairly close to Live.  But the fun part
will be making pulsating light shows :)

Jeff


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<p class=3DMsoNormal>I just received a Novation Launchpad and thought some =
of you
might be<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>interested in some technical details.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>It works fine with Live, I won't go into detail on tha=
t
since I'm more<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>interested in using it with other applications, but if=
 I
were a heavy<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Live user I would definitely get one.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>It speaks normal MIDI so with some work it can be used=
 with
other<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>applications.&nbsp; If you have Novation's Automap uti=
lity
you can do some<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>basic mapping of pads to plugin parameters but to get =
the
most out of<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>it you will need to write code or Max/MSP patches to c=
ontrol
it.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>It's about 10 inches square and 1/2 inch thick.&nbsp; =
Build
quality is<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>okay, the case is plastic but it feels solid enough.&n=
bsp;
If you dropped<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>it it would probably survive.&nbsp; It has to sit on a
table, there is no<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>stand socket on the bottom.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>The pads are smaller than on most drum pad controllers=
 like
the<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Trigger Finger, less than an inch square.&nbsp; They a=
re not
velocity<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>sensitive which makes this of limited use as a drum
controller.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Pressing a pad produces a soft &quot;click&quot; that =
you
can feel but not hear.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>This let's you know the button has been engaged but I =
found
it<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>slightly annoying.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>The pictures and most of the videos make it look like =
the
default<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>state of the buttons are bright white but they're not.=
&nbsp;
When a button<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>is off, it has a slightly translucent dull grey color =
which
is not<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>that bad but not nearly as pretty as it looks in
pictures.&nbsp; Under each<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>pad are two LEDs one green and one red.&nbsp; These ca=
n be
set to one of<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>three shades (low, medium, and high) and combined to p=
roduce
shades of<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>yellow and orange.&nbsp; They don't do white.<o:p></o:=
p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>In theory you have 16 shades available for each button=
 (4
states<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>squared).&nbsp; In practice many of the shades that co=
mbine
red and green<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>are so slightly different that they can't be used as s=
tatic<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>indicators.&nbsp; You can use them to show
&quot;movement&quot; by cycling through<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>the shades, you'll see the difference when they
change.&nbsp; But for<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>buttons that just glow one color it's hard to tell the
difference<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>between &quot;Red Low + Green Low&quot; and &quot;Red =
Low +
Green Medium&quot;.&nbsp; Also<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>there is variance in the brightness of the leds from p=
ad to
pad so<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>when combining them to make yellow it looks quite
&quot;splotchy&quot;, some are<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>very yellow and others look like pale green.<o:p></o:p=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>So in practice I found around 6 or 7 really distinct s=
hades
that could<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>be used as static indicators.&nbsp; The rest could be =
used
to make<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>pulsating lightshows like the Kaoss pad.&nbsp; Overall=
 I was
a bit<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>disappointed in the colors, it is not as pretty as the
videos or the<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>picture on the box, but hey the price is still reasona=
ble.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>It is not programmable.&nbsp; It only sends a fixed se=
t of
MIDI notes for<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>each pad and CC's for the buttons along the top.&nbsp;=
 All
are on channel 1<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>and this cannot be changed.&nbsp; So if you want to co=
mbine
this with MIDI<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>from another source, say an FCB1010, you'll have to
reprogram the FCB<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>to send on a different channel, or do channel mapping =
in
software.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>The videos make it look like it has &quot;pages&quot; =
for
example in Mixer mode<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>there is a page for volume control, one for pan, etc.&=
nbsp;
This is all<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>done in Live.&nbsp; The Launchpad itself doesn't chang=
e what
notes the pads<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>send when you select page buttons, the application has=
 to
watch for<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>the page buttons and dynamically change note mappings =
to do
different<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>things.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>For example, in the demo for controlling track levels,=
 each
column of<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>pads acts like a &quot;fader&quot;.&nbsp; The pads lig=
ht up
from the bottom to<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>whatever pad you press, press the top pad and the fade=
r is
all the way<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>up, press a pad in the center and the fader is around
halfway up, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>The hardware is not magically converting this into CC7=
 for
the<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>application, it's just sending notes and it is up to t=
he
application<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>to respond to them and turn the other lights in the co=
lumn
on or<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>off.&nbsp; This is why with Automap you can't do much =
with
this besides<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>trigger things.&nbsp; There are no knobs and the virtu=
al
faders are a <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>trick supported only by Live.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>So in summary, if you're a Max hacker or write your ow=
n
applications, <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>it is possible to do everything Live does and more but=
 it
will take<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>some work.&nbsp;&nbsp; This will work well for control=
ling
Mobius since<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>the architecture is fairly close to Live.&nbsp; But th=
e fun
part<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>will be making pulsating light shows :)<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Jeff<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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I will be performing a solo electronics/looping show (as The Dark Halo
Project) on Friday, November 20th at Lisa's Oak Street Lounge in
Louisville, KY as part of a larger show.

I will be using Ableton Live 8 and Reason 4 for the first time in a
live setting, along with a Korg MicroX, Roland XP-80, two DR-770's,
and two Gibson Echoplex units as well as Chapman Stick and fretless
bass.

Needless to say I will be practicing this setup for the next two weeks
and trying to figure out the best backup plan if the laptop crashes.
Wish me luck!

I believe my set will start somewhere between 10:00 and 10:30pm and
lasts about 30 minutes. I'll be posting more information on Facebook
and by request in the next few days. Stop by if you are in the area.

Lisa's Oak Street Lounge
1004 E Oak St, Louisville, KY=E2=80=8E
(502) 637-9315=E2=80=8E

Thanks,
Clint



Clint E. Allen
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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:
> Novation Launchpad


Thank you for the excellent review! Are you sure Max patching or
programming is needed to get into deep control mode with this pad,
just because the pads events to send are fixed? Let's assume I use it
to control Mobius - can't I simply use the eight page buttons to swap
MIDI Configuration in Mobius and then send the same old MIDI events to
call up a set of 64 new commands?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Line6 Europe announced in their newsletter a price reduction of 20% on the =
DL4.

That seems to end up in a retail price just below  =80250, which puts it
in the same ballpark as e.g. the DD20, the RC20XL and the SMM
w/Hazari.

(For you US people: up to now, the DL4 was considerably more expensive
than those in Europe.)

So all you Europeans: if you don't have one already, perhaps now it's
time to get a great delay modeler with a nice looper thrown in!

            Rainer

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Thanks Jeff,

That's really interesting.

Have you used an Akai APC40? Do you know if it addresses any of the
Launchpad's limitations or if it has different ones. They seem similar
just because of that grid of lit buttons that looks like the Session
view in ableton.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wr=
ote:
> I just received a Novation Launchpad and thought some of you might be
>
> interested in some technical details.
>
>
>
> It works fine with Live, I won't go into detail on that since I'm more
>
> interested in using it with other applications, but if I were a heavy
>
> Live user I would definitely get one.
>
>
>
> It speaks normal MIDI so with some work it can be used with other
>
> applications.=A0 If you have Novation's Automap utility you can do some
>
> basic mapping of pads to plugin parameters but to get the most out of
>
> it you will need to write code or Max/MSP patches to control it.
>
>
>
> It's about 10 inches square and 1/2 inch thick.=A0 Build quality is
>
> okay, the case is plastic but it feels solid enough.=A0 If you dropped
>
> it it would probably survive.=A0 It has to sit on a table, there is no
>
> stand socket on the bottom.
>
>
>
> The pads are smaller than on most drum pad controllers like the
>
> Trigger Finger, less than an inch square.=A0 They are not velocity
>
> sensitive which makes this of limited use as a drum controller.
>
> Pressing a pad produces a soft "click" that you can feel but not hear.
>
> This let's you know the button has been engaged but I found it
>
> slightly annoying.
>
>
>
> The pictures and most of the videos make it look like the default
>
> state of the buttons are bright white but they're not.=A0 When a button
>
> is off, it has a slightly translucent dull grey color which is not
>
> that bad but not nearly as pretty as it looks in pictures.=A0 Under each
>
> pad are two LEDs one green and one red.=A0 These can be set to one of
>
> three shades (low, medium, and high) and combined to produce shades of
>
> yellow and orange.=A0 They don't do white.
>
>
>
> In theory you have 16 shades available for each button (4 states
>
> squared).=A0 In practice many of the shades that combine red and green
>
> are so slightly different that they can't be used as static
>
> indicators.=A0 You can use them to show "movement" by cycling through
>
> the shades, you'll see the difference when they change.=A0 But for
>
> buttons that just glow one color it's hard to tell the difference
>
> between "Red Low + Green Low" and "Red Low + Green Medium".=A0 Also
>
> there is variance in the brightness of the leds from pad to pad so
>
> when combining them to make yellow it looks quite "splotchy", some are
>
> very yellow and others look like pale green.
>
>
>
> So in practice I found around 6 or 7 really distinct shades that could
>
> be used as static indicators.=A0 The rest could be used to make
>
> pulsating lightshows like the Kaoss pad.=A0 Overall I was a bit
>
> disappointed in the colors, it is not as pretty as the videos or the
>
> picture on the box, but hey the price is still reasonable.
>
>
>
> It is not programmable.=A0 It only sends a fixed set of MIDI notes for
>
> each pad and CC's for the buttons along the top.=A0 All are on channel 1
>
> and this cannot be changed.=A0 So if you want to combine this with MIDI
>
> from another source, say an FCB1010, you'll have to reprogram the FCB
>
> to send on a different channel, or do channel mapping in software.
>
>
>
> The videos make it look like it has "pages" for example in Mixer mode
>
> there is a page for volume control, one for pan, etc.=A0 This is all
>
> done in Live.=A0 The Launchpad itself doesn't change what notes the pads
>
> send when you select page buttons, the application has to watch for
>
> the page buttons and dynamically change note mappings to do different
>
> things.
>
>
>
> For example, in the demo for controlling track levels, each column of
>
> pads acts like a "fader".=A0 The pads light up from the bottom to
>
> whatever pad you press, press the top pad and the fader is all the way
>
> up, press a pad in the center and the fader is around halfway up, etc.
>
> The hardware is not magically converting this into CC7 for the
>
> application, it's just sending notes and it is up to the application
>
> to respond to them and turn the other lights in the column on or
>
> off.=A0 This is why with Automap you can't do much with this besides
>
> trigger things.=A0 There are no knobs and the virtual faders are a
>
> trick supported only by Live.
>
>
>
> So in summary, if you're a Max hacker or write your own applications,
>
> it is possible to do everything Live does and more but it will take
>
> some work.=A0=A0 This will work well for controlling Mobius since
>
> the architecture is fairly close to Live.=A0 But the fun part
>
> will be making pulsating light shows :)
>
>
>
> Jeff
>
>



--=20
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimon

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so, presumably every performer at y2k9 knows which ustream video, if
any, they are on. how about posting that info here? I'd like to see
the sets that I missed, but wading through all the clips is a
problem...

also, is there any way to download a clip? Some of the links on the
"show page" seem to be not loading. I'm wondering how long ustream
will keep them up there (or exist, for that matter) - I'd like to
obtain an archival copy of my set.

here's the link to the clip I'm in - I'm about 6 minutes in:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2375291

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I have all of the original video directly from the camera from Saturday 
night after dinner and all of Sunday.  Unfortunately, I don't have the 
original video from Saturday during the day.  I have not had a opportunity 
to go through the original video and chop it up.  If somebody wants to 
volunteer to do that, I'd be happy to convert the video to MPEG and send it 
to you.  Probably the best thing to do is put the MPEG files on DVD and mail 
them because that many hours of video will be rather large.

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> also, is there any way to download a clip? Some of the links on the
> "show page" seem to be not loading. I'm wondering how long ustream
> will keep them up there (or exist, for that matter) - I'd like to
> obtain an archival copy of my set.

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could that also be a sign of cease of production? i remember this was the c=
ase with the EDP i bought back then a brand new one at Musicians friend for=
 399.00dlls shortly after that they were gone forever!=0Athe m9 is nice but=
 there is something i still like about the DL4 maybe that green cadillac lo=
ok=0Acheers=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Rainer Straschill <=
moinsound@googlemail.com> schrieb am Mi, 4.11.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Rainer Stra=
schill <moinsound@googlemail.com>=0A> Betreff: Line6 Europe reduces price f=
or DL4=0A> An: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Mittwoch, 4. =
November 2009, 11:38=0A> Line6 Europe announced in their=0A> newsletter a p=
rice reduction of 20% on the DL4.=0A> =0A> That seems to end up in a retail=
 price just below=C2=A0=0A> =E2=82=AC250, which puts it=0A> in the same bal=
lpark as e.g. the DD20, the RC20XL and the=0A> SMM=0A> w/Hazari.=0A> =0A> (=
For you US people: up to now, the DL4 was considerably=0A> more expensive=
=0A> than those in Europe.)=0A> =0A> So all you Europeans: if you don't hav=
e one already,=0A> perhaps now it's=0A> time to get a great delay modeler w=
ith a nice looper thrown=0A> in!=0A> =0A> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
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[Art]
> Have you used an Akai APC40? Do you know if it addresses any of the
> Launchpad's limitations or if it has different ones.=20

I haven't looked at it closely, and there isn't much on the web.
The FAQ says it sends out normal MIDI messages over USB and is=20
non-programmable like the Launchpad. =20

The clip buttons look about the same, though I see some are blue so
they may have more LEDs under them.  I'm certain it has a similar MIDI
note or CC protocol the application has to send to make the pads turn on.

The knobs and faders make this a better all-around controller, of
course it's twice the price of the Launchpad.  If I didn't already
have several fader/knob controllers I would have considered this.

For Mobius the knobs and faders should work now.  Making the pads
light up would require special support.  $400 is a little pricey
for something I don't really need.  Of course if someone were=20
to buy me one, APC40 support goes to the top of the=20
development list :-)

Jeff

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would i be able to do that with iMovie on the mac? i haven't done much
with it, but i'd be willing to do the chop-up.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Bob Amstadt <bob@amstadt.com> wrote:
> I have all of the original video directly from the camera from Saturday
> night after dinner and all of Sunday. =A0Unfortunately, I don't have the
> original video from Saturday during the day. =A0I have not had a opportun=
ity
> to go through the original video and chop it up. =A0If somebody wants to
> volunteer to do that, I'd be happy to convert the video to MPEG and send =
it
> to you. =A0Probably the best thing to do is put the MPEG files on DVD and=
 mail
> them because that many hours of video will be rather large.
>
> ---
> Bob Amstadt
> Looperlative Audio Products
> (408) 921-LOOP
>
>> also, is there any way to download a clip? Some of the links on the
>> "show page" seem to be not loading. I'm wondering how long ustream
>> will keep them up there (or exist, for that matter) - I'd like to
>> obtain an archival copy of my set.
>
>



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Warren,

I don't know anything about iMovie, but I'd be happy to send you the files 
if you would like to give it a try.

---
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Public BetaTest Program for Max For Live has been announced:

	http://www.ableton.com/maxforlive/beta

Production release is scheduled for a November 23 rollout.

	--m.
-- 
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At 12:42 PM -0600 11/4/09, Jeff Larson wrote:
>  > Are you sure Max patching or programming is needed to get into deep
>>  control mode with this pad, just because the pads events to send
>>  are fixed?
>
>It would depend the application you're controlling.  In your example,
>yes you could use the top 8 buttons to select different Mobius MIDI
>configurations that remap the grid buttons to do different things.

You may also find some interesting and helpful resources on 
programming the Launchpad in this article from CDMu:

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/11/02/novation-releases-all-midi-details-for-launchpad/

It outlines the MIDI spec for exactly what the Launchpad is sending.

There's also a link to a Monome emulator (the Nonome) that has 
already been ported to work with the Launchpad.

	--m.
-- 
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At 12:42 PM -0600 11/4/09, Jeff Larson wrote:
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>>  control mode with this pad, just because the pads events to send
>>  are fixed?
>
>It would depend the application you're controlling.  In your example,
>yes you could use the top 8 buttons to select different Mobius MIDI
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You may also find some interesting and helpful resources on 
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http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/11/02/novation-releases-all-midi-details-for-launchpad/

It outlines the MIDI spec for exactly what the Launchpad is sending.

There's also a link to a Monome emulator (the Nonome) that has 
already been ported to work with the Launchpad.

	--m.
-- 
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Woohoo! Thanks Mech, I've been waiting for this : )

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
> Public BetaTest Program for Max For Live has been announced:
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.ableton.com/maxforlive/beta
>
> Production release is scheduled for a November 23 rollout.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--m.
> --
> _____
> "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of murder...
> later"
>
>



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 > You may also find some interesting and helpful resources on  
programming
 > the Launchpad in this article from CDMu:

These are excerpts from the Novation MIDI spec that has been available
for awhile here:

     http://www.novationmusic.com/support/launchpad/

This is one significant difference between the Launchpad and the
APC40, Akai has not yet released the details of it's MIDI protocol.

People seem to be moaning about Akai not being "open" but it's
actually rather trivial to reverse engineer the protocol.  It sends
and receives MIDI like anything else, all you have to do is put
a message monitor between Live and the APC40 and watch what Live sends.
If Akai doesn't publish it, someone will.

Jeff

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Shucks.

I guess that means the little bit of my set (in 2 pieces) is just what  
is up there on Ustream.

Oh well.

Thanks for doing all that you did Bob.

Probably no one would want to see it again anyway.


On Nov 4, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote:

> I have all of the original video directly from the camera from  
> Saturday night after dinner and all of Sunday.  Unfortunately, I  
> don't have the original video from Saturday during the day.  I have  
> not had a opportunity to go through the original video and chop it  
> up.  If somebody wants to volunteer to do that, I'd be happy to  
> convert the video to MPEG and send it to you.  Probably the best  
> thing to do is put the MPEG files on DVD and mail them because that  
> many hours of video will be rather large.
>
> ---
> Bob Amstadt
> Looperlative Audio Products
> (408) 921-LOOP
>
>> also, is there any way to download a clip? Some of the links on the
>> "show page" seem to be not loading. I'm wondering how long ustream
>> will keep them up there (or exist, for that matter) - I'd like to
>> obtain an archival copy of my set.
>

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Greetings,

I was away at Different Skies.  Almost as soon as I returned home, I 
went to electro-music where I met Kris.  It was great to finally meet 
and have some nice conversations.  electro-music is a sensory overload 
so I was unable to hear Kris play.  But I have the feeling that we'll 
meet again.  Now that I'm home from these two festivals, I've rejoined 
LD.  On Thursday 11/5, Steve Jolliffe (ex-Tangerine Dream) will do a 
live set on Galactic Travels so please do tune in.

Cheers,

Bill

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The only way to capture off of ustream that I know is to use the free
program jing:
http://www.jingproject.com/

You have to navigate to the ustream page and select the region of the
screen you want to capture. It's a time consuming real time process,
so if anybody wanted to make the original videos available (Warren?
Thank you!) It would be a big favor and much appreciated.


-- 
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
myspace [dot] com/artsimon

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Hey Bill!  It was great seeing you, Kevin, and many others.  What a 
beautiful location that was.

BTW, I recorded me and Robert Sterling's set.

Kribophoric (me on alto flute, laptop, max/msp, and reaktor; Robert on 
electronic percussion)

http://www.box.net/shared/ut9m22e51e

Kris

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> Greetings,
>
> I was away at Different Skies.  Almost as soon as I returned home, I went 
> to electro-music where I met Kris.  It was great to finally meet and have 
> some nice conversations.  electro-music is a sensory overload so I was 
> unable to hear Kris play.  But I have the feeling that we'll meet again. 
> Now that I'm home from these two festivals, I've rejoined LD.  On Thursday 
> 11/5, Steve Jolliffe (ex-Tangerine Dream) will do a live set on Galactic 
> Travels so please do tune in.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bill
>
> 

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ummmm, gnu/Linux support? ;)

Actually, my question is not entirely facetious, as one of the company
founders is a Linux user and advocate. So if you can find out any info about
Linux support, I'd appreciate it.

-michael

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:

> I seem to be giving this link a lot today :)
>
> http://www.eigenlabs.com/software/
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As far as I know the only way to download Ustream videos is by the owner of 
the show which probably is Bob or someone he authorizes. He can download 
them in flash video flv files. They (Ustream) keep saying that they are 
going to make more formats available but not so far. My 2 cents of 
experience..

best,

Jeff


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> The only way to capture off of ustream that I know is to use the free
> program jing:
> http://www.jingproject.com/
>
> You have to navigate to the ustream page and select the region of the
> screen you want to capture. It's a time consuming real time process,
> so if anybody wanted to make the original videos available (Warren?
> Thank you!) It would be a big favor and much appreciated.
>
>
> -- 
> Art Simon
> simart@gmail.com
> myspace [dot] com/artsimon
>
> 

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Chinapainting was recently on a west coast mini tour with shows in northern
and southern California including Loopfest as several of you know who we go=
t
to see.  This is video from our show in Venice at Beyond Baroque.
http://www.vimeo.com/7437217

<http://www.vimeo.com/7437217>The Venice show was a shared bill with GE
Stinson/Steuart Liebig.  I posted their set a few days ago but here's the
link again as it's timely with the posting of our's.
http://www.vimeo.com/7209064

<http://www.vimeo.com/7209064>I'm going to start to work later today on a
video of the folks I was able to document at Loopfest on Saturday the 17th.
 It will be a sampler akin to Michael's and if all goes well will be up ove=
r
the weekend.

Lastly another collaboration of mine is with multi-instrumentalist Peter
Thorn, a musician from Sweden.  Several of you got to hear Peter as part of
our VSV sets a few weeks back.  This is a collaborative project of Peter's
that he sent me a link on.  I'll mention his bandmates as I think they are
all local to Sweden and Per and others from that region may know these
folks.  Roger Sundstr=F6m Guitar, Fredrik Mikalsen Bass et.c  and Peter Th=
=F6rn
Sax et.c.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWsu0S-BAw7M&feature=3Drelated. =
 neat
stuff here.

Jim

--=20
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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Chinapainting was recently on a west coast mini tour with shows in northern=
 and southern California including Loopfest as several of you know who we g=
ot to see. =A0This is video from our show in Venice at Beyond Baroque. =A0<=
a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/7437217">http://www.vimeo.com/7437217</a><di=
v>
<br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/7437217"></a>The Venice show=
 was a shared bill with GE Stinson/Steuart Liebig. =A0I posted their set a =
few days ago but here&#39;s the link again as it&#39;s timely with the post=
ing of our&#39;s. =A0<a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/7209064">http://www.vi=
meo.com/7209064</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/7209064"></a>I&#39;m go=
ing to start to work later today on a video of the folks I was able to docu=
ment at Loopfest on Saturday the 17th. =A0It will be a sampler akin to Mich=
ael&#39;s and if all goes well will be up over the weekend.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Lastly another collaboration of mine is with multi-inst=
rumentalist Peter Thorn, a musician from Sweden. =A0Several of you got to h=
ear Peter as part of our VSV sets a few weeks back. =A0This is a collaborat=
ive project of Peter&#39;s that he sent me a link on. =A0I&#39;ll mention h=
is bandmates as I think they are all local to Sweden and Per and others fro=
m that region may know these folks. =A0<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" sty=
le=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Roger Sundstr=F6m Guitar, Fredrik M=
ikalsen Bass et.c =A0and Peter Th=F6rn Sax et.c. =A0<span class=3D"Apple-st=
yle-span" style=3D"font-family: arial; "><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/=
watch?v=3DWsu0S-BAw7M&amp;feature=3Drelated">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
=3DWsu0S-BAw7M&amp;feature=3Drelated</a>. =A0neat stuff here.</span></span>=
</div>
<div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"arial, sans-serif"><br></font=
></div><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"arial, sans-serif">Jim=
</font></div><div><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural aural<br><a h=
ref=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br>
<br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgood=
inmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinap=
aintingmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">w=
ww.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.myspace.com/china=
paintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelect=
ro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.mys=
pace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/j=
imgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networkin=
g...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><br>
</div>

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I also just got one of those! It's so awesome and I could use it right 
away. I don't know how to program but it seems to be just fine for what 
I am doing.


Jeff Larson schrieb:
>
> > You may also find some interesting and helpful resources on programming
> > the Launchpad in this article from CDMu:
>
> These are excerpts from the Novation MIDI spec that has been available
> for awhile here:
>
>     http://www.novationmusic.com/support/launchpad/
>
> This is one significant difference between the Launchpad and the
> APC40, Akai has not yet released the details of it's MIDI protocol.
>
> People seem to be moaning about Akai not being "open" but it's
> actually rather trivial to reverse engineer the protocol.  It sends
> and receives MIDI like anything else, all you have to do is put
> a message monitor between Live and the APC40 and watch what Live sends.
> If Akai doesn't publish it, someone will.
>
> Jeff
>


-- 
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Hello,

Here's something I came accross today:
It's a wireless foot controller that may be useful for some.
It is not midi but works with recorded keyboard keys (double "click" and 
fn+click seems supported).
The site says also that you can remotely load different profiles.
see this video for more info: 
http://www.x-tempozone.com/demos/Elements/7_programming.mov


----


Another thing: I got my korg microsampler last week.
I've been busy and hadn't tested everything but I would like to share my 
firsts impressions.
For the general working please see this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLpejsMlI2I

I must say that I'm very happy with this kb except for some things (see 
below).
It features 2 modes, sample mode (a bank of 3 octaves of single sound/loop 
up to 160sec at 48k) and keyboard mode (you select one of the sample to play 
it chromatically).
There is a pattern sequencer (16 patterns per bank, up to 99 measures).
It uses 2 midi channels: one for the keyboard part, one for the sample bank.
If a key is not used in sample mode, it plays the key above at the corrected 
pitch. So in fact there a "disguised" keyboard mode in sample mode.

Every thing sync (or not) to the given (tap) tempo or to the midi clock.
It is really live oriented, you can sample while the sequencer or another 
loop is running.
You can thus use it as a basic multitrack recorder. If you have a sequence 
running (let say playing a BD and a snare drum), you can resample on the "BD 
key" and replace it on the fly (the EDP replace). Nice!

In resample mode (using the internal sound generator as the source, not the 
external in) you can even resample on the key you are playing. Let say you 
have a bass drum (1 sec.) on key c3, you can resample a 4/4 loop (4 sec) on 
the same key by playing the c3 key live.

You can sequence and gate the inputs, nice for gate effects.

Using the "key gate" mode (the sampling occurs when a key is pressed down ON 
the key which is pressed), you can do multisampling easily, just connect the 
midi out to your expander and the audio from you expander. In 5 seconds you 
can have a multisampled bank.
The time streching is OK (like on the KP3, better than on Roland stuff) , 
you can use either a pitch change (slow down) or the timestretching to stay 
sync to the clock. In this latter case, the polyphony is divided by 2.
There is a looper on the FX list (rec/play/overdub) but limited to one bar.

Can it be used as a looper? Well yes and no. You can use it like a KP3 (see 
beardy man for instance) and you may need some preparation.
The problem #1:when a loop has been sampled it is not playing immediately. I 
tried to use the sequencer to trigger a loop every bar and it kind of works 
but if you don't start the sequencing on the 1st beat (but a bit after), 
after the sampling ends the loop is not playing during a bar (as the note-on 
has already been issued). This bring on the second problem:
problem#2: it is not possible to trigger the sample using midi or the 
sequencer. It is a pity the key gat mode can't use a midi IN note-on. It 
would have allowed to use my fcb1010 or an external keyboard to trigger the 
sampling start and/or use the sequencer to start the sequencing on the first 
beat.

I need some more time with it but it's  fun to use anyway. At least I can 
quickly use my DSI mopho (monophonic synth) in polyphony using the quick 
multisampling method.

Ben.











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On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Nadia Salom <nadia.salom@gmx.de> wrote:
> I also just got one of those! It's so awesome and I could use it right away.
> I don't know how to program but it seems to be just fine for what I am
> doing.

Lucky you!  :-)
BTW, you can't program them, they have a fixed output. You will have
to program whatever is receiving the MIDI at the other end of the
cable.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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At 4:56 PM -0800 11/4/09, Art Simon wrote:
>On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
>  >
>  > Public BetaTest Program for Max For Live has been announced:
>
>Woohoo! Thanks Mech, I've been waiting for this : )

De nada!  Now download it and go make something cool!!!  :D

	--m.
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A.   Boss AutoWah AW-2. $55 Like new in box.

B.  Line6 FM4 Filter/guitar synth modeler. $160 Great condition.  Does all
sorts of autowah and filtering as well as mono guitar synth sounds. Stereo
in/out and CV in to make it a Wah, etc.

C.  Korg G5 Synth Bass Processor $225 Awesome 90s Silver floor unit.
selectable waveforms including voice. Cutoff and resonance knobs, etc.
VERY sweet for guitar and keys too.

D. Ibanez Weeping Demon wah $65 - Like new in box w/all papers. Extremely
versitle wah with settings and options galore.

E.  Ibanez AFL autofilter - $75 - unique filter sound for an autowah
(Jerry Garcia favored this series) LP/BP and *sliders* for control plus
lo/hi settings for ultra flexibilty. In GREAT shape.

F. Vintage MXR Dynacomp (block logo) - $110 - Not reissue, the real deal.

G. Heathkit 60s FuZZZ!  $200.  Controls are "distortion" Boost" as well as
two  way toggle to add more bass to the signal. Sweet 60s germanium hand
wired goodness.

H. Boss CS-2 Compressor   - $75- old standby, MIJ OOP. good shape.

I. Tech21 Bass Compactor - $75 Versitile solid bass compressor. Perfect
for live use or recording. with original box.

J. Boutique DAED Disturbo DS-1 Filter/Synth-Fuzz/Distortion -   $95
Modified Boss DS-1 pedal given new life and transformed into a processing
machine. Self oscillating Theremin plus two OUT there filter settings. Now
with Superbright Orange 5mm LED.

K.  Ibanez TS5/TS9 modified to original TS9 specs with socketed and
upgraded 4558 chip, etc. Flip a switch and it's a  Circuit Bent Synth with
Mods by DAED - $55 5mm GREEN LED installed A VERY versatile pedal and one
of one.

Buyer pays shipping and paypal fees. I also accept USPS MO or pickup in
Phila PA. Prices are fair but will consider reasonable offers especially
if you pickup or buy multiple items.

Some Pics and more info: http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/Salez/FS.htm

Thanks!






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Still cleaning out a few items I no longer use since I moved to more DIY
things. Lowered the price on the Soundlab to $325.

1. Chimera Synthesis BC16 - $350. As new, I only had to wait a little over
a year. Web site still lists these but read the archive for realistic
delivery.  Comes with the tiny patch cables and I taped
a legend of the controls in the center which makes it MUCH more intuitive.
http://www.chimerasynthesis.com/#/bc16-patchable-synth/4529526548

2. MFOS Soundlab made by Blue lantern with mods. PRICE REDUCED:$325. This
has the timing  mod as well as fine tune for each VCO, cross mod, and a
few other goodies. I added an internal PS (no wall wart), Trigger button
for env, and blue LED to match the cool plexiglass faceplate.

3. Zvex Fuzz Face pedal built into a EURO module. PRICE REDUCED $125. Real
original Zvex FF with one width euro faceplate and Doepfer PS. VERY cool
module and obviously one of one.

Buyer can pickup or pay shipping from Phila PA. USPS MO or Paypal (will
split fees). I think prices are very fair but if you think otherwise and
can make a quick and reasonable offer let me know. Pickup and more than
one item purchased get more consideration.

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I'm going to send my address to Bob, have him send me a DVD with all
the clips, and see what I can do with it.




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Bob warren this may have a simpler solution.  In that on ustream I
found my afternoon session as well as those that followed, on the
Loopfest channel that means to the account that Bob I'm assuming
crteated, the videos are downloadable to that logon, atleast that's
how mine works.  Can yu either give that login to warren or to me as
I'd like to pull down at least my set.

Thx guys



On 11/4/09, Bob Amstadt <bob@amstadt.com> wrote:
> I have all of the original video directly from the camera from Saturday
> night after dinner and all of Sunday.  Unfortunately, I don't have the
> original video from Saturday during the day.  I have not had a opportunity
> to go through the original video and chop it up.  If somebody wants to
> volunteer to do that, I'd be happy to convert the video to MPEG and send it
> to you.  Probably the best thing to do is put the MPEG files on DVD and mail
> them because that many hours of video will be rather large.
>
> ---
> Bob Amstadt
> Looperlative Audio Products
> (408) 921-LOOP
>
>> also, is there any way to download a clip? Some of the links on the
>> "show page" seem to be not loading. I'm wondering how long ustream
>> will keep them up there (or exist, for that matter) - I'd like to
>> obtain an archival copy of my set.
>
>

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What I don't get about this thing:
In those screenshots, they use an 8x8 matrix to control e.g. levels
for eight tracks. Does that mean that your volume levels are quantized
to eight discrete values? And I remember people complaining that 128
wasn't enough...

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Will any of these work in conjunction with the Looperlative without a  
computer involved? Should I be wishing that Looperlative had USB  
rather than Ethernet (though since I think USB is directional that  
would require having a way to toggle the Looperlative's behavior if  
one wanted to also connect it to a computer)?

Mark

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> In those screenshots, they use an 8x8 matrix to control e.g. levels
> for eight tracks. Does that mean that your volume levels are quantized
> to eight discrete values?=20

Yes.  Pan is even worse, the middle two rows are both "center" so you
effectively get 7 pan values.  I guess this would be adequate for a
lot of "dance" music.

But this is just how Ableton has chosen to use the pads.  Other
applications can use the pads differently, for example using the
entire grid as volume for the currently selected track arranged with 0
in the lower left and 127 in the upper right.  That would give you 64
steps.  Still not likely to replace pedals for some people though.

Jeff

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> Will any of these work in conjunction with the Looperlative without a =20
> computer involved?=20

Probably not.  What you would need is a standalone box that had a USB
A-Female on one side and MIDI in/out on the other and circuitry to do
the protocol conversion.  Since you're not connected to a computer there
is no bus power so you would need a wall wart.  I've never seen anything li=
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this.  There are a lot of USB/MIDI converters out there but they're
designed to be used with a computer and I don't think it's simply a
matter of replacing the USB A-male connectors they all have with a USB
A-female.  I'm sure there are people that could build one, but it's
not a mass market thing.

Jeff

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Too bad it doesn't have any expression pedal inputs. The APC40 has a
couple footswitch jacks but none for expression pedals either. Neither
seems like a really good choice for a guitarist or any other
instrumentalist whose hands are frequently occupied, except maybe as
an additional controller for launching clips.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wro=
te:
>
>> In those screenshots, they use an 8x8 matrix to control e.g. levels
>> for eight tracks. Does that mean that your volume levels are quantized
>> to eight discrete values?
>
> Yes. =A0Pan is even worse, the middle two rows are both "center" so you
> effectively get 7 pan values. =A0I guess this would be adequate for a
> lot of "dance" music.
>
> But this is just how Ableton has chosen to use the pads. =A0Other
> applications can use the pads differently, for example using the
> entire grid as volume for the currently selected track arranged with 0
> in the lower left and 127 in the upper right. =A0That would give you 64
> steps. =A0Still not likely to replace pedals for some people though.
>
> Jeff
>
>



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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY:                   http://galactictravels.info
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Tonight at 11 pm (EST/GMT-5/ITZ-5) on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a
month-long Special Focus on Fanger and Schonwalder.  The Featured CD
at Midnight will be disk one from "Analog Overdose - The Ricochet Dream
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Former Tangerine Dream member Steve Jolliffe will be performing a live
set on tonight's show.  He played at electro-music 2009 last weekend
and will be playing a house concert this Saturday.

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
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hey Ander's
always nice to hear soemone using that effect  :-)

While you have to use the Insert button to do that,
it's not an Insert, it's an 8th Replace (or Substitute).
No big deal of course, but might create confusion to call it an Insert.

There's a related effect that uses SUSInsert (Quant=cyc) 
to gradually add Cycles to the loop length which can sound a bit similar.

andy butler


 

Anders Bergdahl wrote:
> SO this is improvised (as usual) just guitar, amp, looper and some echo 
> added in the mix.. BUT this time i have mixed in the computer and tried 
> to be more creative with the echos, better or worse than "usual"?
> The idea of this piece was to keep it rhythmic and evolving, I'm using 
> the insert function on the EDP ) set to an 8th note to great a rhythmic 
> backdrop that evolves with what I'm currently playing. Also using 
> backwards and halfspeed to create strange ambient sounds..
> http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8290751
> 
> Enjoy

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oh,
and enjoyed your playing by the way

andy butler wrote:
> hey Ander's
> always nice to hear soemone using that effect  :-)
> 

> Anders Bergdahl wrote:
>> SO this is improvised (as usual) just guitar, amp, looper and some 

> 
> 

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Hey gang,=0AHas anybody have any experience with this series of mixers? im =
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an reduce setup time having it all on the floor and just conecting the 2 xl=
r outs to the speakers.Also traveling around with one single pedalboard and=
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all hardware portable,ther laptop rout is too shaky for the pub scene=0Atho=
ugh putting the EDP on the pedalboard remains a task as well!=0A=0Ai was lo=
oking at this:=0A=0Ahttp://www.pedalboards.com/New_Folder/folding.rack.htm=
=0A=0Aare there any other folding rack alternatives out there?=0Ai welcome =
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=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A--- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> schrieb am Fr, 6=
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 A new rhytmic loop recording..=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=
=0A> Datum: Freitag, 6. November 2009, 2:52=0A> oh,=0A> and enjoyed your pl=
aying by the way=0A> =0A> andy butler wrote:=0A> > hey Ander's=0A> > always=
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Hi there
According to the blurb
Albeton Live has looping facility.

Looping with Live
Not only for guitarists, the Ableton Looper gives you classic 
sound-on-sound looping without the limitations of a hardware device.
Looper is set up for remote operation, so you can record, overdub, 
undo and more without touching the computer.


Has anyone any experience of this.
regards
roger 
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Hi there<br>
According to the blurb<br>
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sound-on-sound looping without the limitations of a hardware device.
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Looper is set up for remote operation, so you can record, overdub, undo
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On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:45 PM, roger <roger@brecon.co.uk> wrote:
> Looper is set up for remote operation, so you can record, overdub, undo and
> more without touching the computer.
>
> Has anyone any experience of this.


Yes, I did it for hours yesterday. Was coaching an artist that is
going out to loop his album material plus live instrument using Live
8.

Except for the feature your post mention you can also assign pedals to
rate shift the loop. That means either transposing pitch one octave up
and doubling the speed or transposing pitch one octave down and
reducing speed to half the original tempo. If overdubbing new audio
into the loop at those extremes the some interesting sound will come
out when going back to normal speed/pitch.

Another feature is that you can instantly divide or multiply the loop
length by 2. It's not possible to divide or multiply by 3 or any other
number than 2. When multiplied it simply gets longer by repeating the
same chunk of original audio. When divided it cuts out half of the
original audio and loops that. If repeating the division by two you
can get down to very fast loops down in granular land where everything
sounds like pneumatic manufacturing processes.

"Reverse" is also possible.

All these tricks you do to the loop in the Looper plug-in seems to
happen according to the global quantization you run the host Live at.
I did not test yesterday, but I think you should be able to create
some interesting poly rhythm by jumping between different quantization
settings while working the loop in the Looper plug-in.

The most powerful feature that comes with the Looper plug-in is that
you can set it to calculate the tempo from the first loop you make and
then start the host Live as you close the loop. Before Live 8 this has
not been possible in any other way than by using a Looper that sends
out MIDI Clock that Live follows. This new system is more solid both
in the way it sounds and in the meaning of not crashing or "loosing
contact with master tempo clock" (hated that error message in pre 8
Live)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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If only it sounded as good as Mainstage. I love both, and am  
constantly going back and forth. But I hope Ableton continues to  
develop Looper. Per is right, its sync abilities are rock solid.


On Nov 6, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:45 PM, roger <roger@brecon.co.uk> wrote:
>> Looper is set up for remote operation, so you can record, overdub,  
>> undo and
>> more without touching the computer.
>>
>> Has anyone any experience of this.
>
>
> Yes, I did it for hours yesterday. Was coaching an artist that is
> going out to loop his album material plus live instrument using Live
> 8.
>
> Except for the feature your post mention you can also assign pedals to
> rate shift the loop. That means either transposing pitch one octave up
> and doubling the speed or transposing pitch one octave down and
> reducing speed to half the original tempo. If overdubbing new audio
> into the loop at those extremes the some interesting sound will come
> out when going back to normal speed/pitch.
>
> Another feature is that you can instantly divide or multiply the loop
> length by 2. It's not possible to divide or multiply by 3 or any other
> number than 2. When multiplied it simply gets longer by repeating the
> same chunk of original audio. When divided it cuts out half of the
> original audio and loops that. If repeating the division by two you
> can get down to very fast loops down in granular land where everything
> sounds like pneumatic manufacturing processes.
>
> "Reverse" is also possible.
>
> All these tricks you do to the loop in the Looper plug-in seems to
> happen according to the global quantization you run the host Live at.
> I did not test yesterday, but I think you should be able to create
> some interesting poly rhythm by jumping between different quantization
> settings while working the loop in the Looper plug-in.
>
> The most powerful feature that comes with the Looper plug-in is that
> you can set it to calculate the tempo from the first loop you make and
> then start the host Live as you close the loop. Before Live 8 this has
> not been possible in any other way than by using a Looper that sends
> out MIDI Clock that Live follows. This new system is more solid both
> in the way it sounds and in the meaning of not crashing or "loosing
> contact with master tempo clock" (hated that error message in pre 8
> Live)
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>

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On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
> If only it sounded as good as Mainstage.

Yes, I agree with you Chris. I love Ableton and the concept of Live
but it just doesn't sound as good to me as Logic/Mainstage for looping
a live input on-the-fly. With Mainstage you get many excellent bass
and guitar amp/speaker simulators as well as transparent sounding
compressor, limiter and multi band compressor. I slave Mainstage by
MIDI Clock to my looper and it works fine since I don't host any step
sequencing stuff etc It's like Mainstage just becomes a part of the
looper with the aim of adding beat synced effects and awesome sound.

There is one awesome thing in Live though that I have not found a
replacement for and that is the the "build-up-freeze" reverb patch. I
love that ice cold never decaying space texture. It's all metal and
vacuum. Only scorpions and bacteria survive...

Per

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yeah, i'd like to do the whole Live 8 & Max4Live upgrade from Live 6,
but I just upgraded Logic Studio and I just don't have the bucks! If
Live8 *included* M4L (and instruments as luscious as Logic Studio, and
a great loop browser), it would be reasonable, but this is out of the
park. It's very cool, but I think the Ableton stuff is very
overpriced.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
> If only it sounded as good as Mainstage. I love both, and am constantly
> going back and forth. But I hope Ableton continues to develop Looper. Per is
> right, its sync abilities are rock solid.
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Per Boysen wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:45 PM, roger <roger@brecon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Looper is set up for remote operation, so you can record, overdub, undo
>>> and
>>> more without touching the computer.
>>>
>>> Has anyone any experience of this.
>>
>>
>> Yes, I did it for hours yesterday. Was coaching an artist that is
>> going out to loop his album material plus live instrument using Live
>> 8.
>>
>> Except for the feature your post mention you can also assign pedals to
>> rate shift the loop. That means either transposing pitch one octave up
>> and doubling the speed or transposing pitch one octave down and
>> reducing speed to half the original tempo. If overdubbing new audio
>> into the loop at those extremes the some interesting sound will come
>> out when going back to normal speed/pitch.
>>
>> Another feature is that you can instantly divide or multiply the loop
>> length by 2. It's not possible to divide or multiply by 3 or any other
>> number than 2. When multiplied it simply gets longer by repeating the
>> same chunk of original audio. When divided it cuts out half of the
>> original audio and loops that. If repeating the division by two you
>> can get down to very fast loops down in granular land where everything
>> sounds like pneumatic manufacturing processes.
>>
>> "Reverse" is also possible.
>>
>> All these tricks you do to the loop in the Looper plug-in seems to
>> happen according to the global quantization you run the host Live at.
>> I did not test yesterday, but I think you should be able to create
>> some interesting poly rhythm by jumping between different quantization
>> settings while working the loop in the Looper plug-in.
>>
>> The most powerful feature that comes with the Looper plug-in is that
>> you can set it to calculate the tempo from the first loop you make and
>> then start the host Live as you close the loop. Before Live 8 this has
>> not been possible in any other way than by using a Looper that sends
>> out MIDI Clock that Live follows. This new system is more solid both
>> in the way it sounds and in the meaning of not crashing or "loosing
>> contact with master tempo clock" (hated that error message in pre 8
>> Live)
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com
>>
>
>



-- 
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Roger said:
> Not only for guitarists, the Ableton Looper gives you classic sound-on-sound looping without the limitations of a hardware device.

Now I'm curious, and I'd like to ask those with lots of looping
experience: what are the limitations of a hardware device which
Ableton Looper doesn't have?

          Rainer

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On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
> yeah, i'd like to do the whole Live 8 & Max4Live upgrade from Live 6,
> but I just upgraded Logic Studio and I just don't have the bucks! If
> Live8 *included* M4L (and instruments as luscious as Logic Studio, and
> a great loop browser), it would be reasonable, but this is out of the
> park. It's very cool, but I think the Ableton stuff is very
> overpriced.


Unfortunately Ableton can't sell iPods and classy lappies to make up
for underpricing. I agree Max For Live is very tempting, but I don't
have the dough for it either. And since I'm a long time Cycling74
Pluggo owner I want to await word on the promised Pluggo owner M4L
discount that Cycling74 people have mentioned in interviews. No info
on that so far from Ableton's. But Cycling indeed discontinued Pluggo
in order to put enough man hours into M4L developing, so we Pluggoists
are still a sad bunch of losers in this circus. Hopefully they will
feel pity and through us something... ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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I have to draw the line Max for live. For the next few months, I have  
to turn my attention to playing. I've spent so much time lately  
getting the software where I need it. I need to play some music for a  
while. I love tweaking, but it's not paying the bills.

Question for you Per. I agree the sync out feature on Mobius works  
fantastic with MS. Is it possible to sync Playback with Mobius? Does  
Playback send out midi clock and song start messages? The  
documentation is not exactly clear with Mainstage.




On Nov 6, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Warren Sirota  
> <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
>> yeah, i'd like to do the whole Live 8 & Max4Live upgrade from Live 6,
>> but I just upgraded Logic Studio and I just don't have the bucks! If
>> Live8 *included* M4L (and instruments as luscious as Logic Studio,  
>> and
>> a great loop browser), it would be reasonable, but this is out of the
>> park. It's very cool, but I think the Ableton stuff is very
>> overpriced.
>
>
> Unfortunately Ableton can't sell iPods and classy lappies to make up
> for underpricing. I agree Max For Live is very tempting, but I don't
> have the dough for it either. And since I'm a long time Cycling74
> Pluggo owner I want to await word on the promised Pluggo owner M4L
> discount that Cycling74 people have mentioned in interviews. No info
> on that so far from Ableton's. But Cycling indeed discontinued Pluggo
> in order to put enough man hours into M4L developing, so we Pluggoists
> are still a sad bunch of losers in this circus. Hopefully they will
> feel pity and through us something... ;-)
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>

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On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
> Question for you Per. I agree the sync out feature on Mobius works fantastic
> with MS. Is it possible to sync Playback with Mobius? Does Playback send out
> midi clock and song start messages? The documentation is not exactly clear
> with Mainstage.

Sync what way?

A) Syncing Mobius to Mainstage doesn't take any secret tricks. If
Mobius is set to follow host tempo it will sync just as any plug-in
does.

B) Syncing Mainstage to Mobius:
- Set Mobius to "Sync Mode = Out" (under its Synchronization tab)
- Set Mobius "Plugin Output Dvices: IAC Bus x" (make sure IAC Bus is
enabled in OSX/Applications/Utilities/AudioMIDIsetup)
- In Mainstage, select the box "Get TEMPO From MIDI Input" (in Edit
View at Concert level) and set the source Device to the IAC Bus you
told Mobius to send through.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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I've never found a way to sync Mobius to Mainstage. I think because  
it's not a typical DAW and there is no timeline, it can't be done.  
But I was hoping with the addition of the playback device, it could  
happen. I'll keep trying. I use the Midi Out feature of Mobius now.  
That works great. Delay Designer is almost it's own instrument that way.

Thanks


On Nov 6, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com>  
> wrote:
>> Question for you Per. I agree the sync out feature on Mobius works  
>> fantastic
>> with MS. Is it possible to sync Playback with Mobius? Does  
>> Playback send out
>> midi clock and song start messages? The documentation is not  
>> exactly clear
>> with Mainstage.
>
> Sync what way?
>
> A) Syncing Mobius to Mainstage doesn't take any secret tricks. If
> Mobius is set to follow host tempo it will sync just as any plug-in
> does.
>
> B) Syncing Mainstage to Mobius:
> - Set Mobius to "Sync Mode = Out" (under its Synchronization tab)
> - Set Mobius "Plugin Output Dvices: IAC Bus x" (make sure IAC Bus is
> enabled in OSX/Applications/Utilities/AudioMIDIsetup)
> - In Mainstage, select the box "Get TEMPO From MIDI Input" (in Edit
> View at Concert level) and set the source Device to the IAC Bus you
> told Mobius to send through.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>

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On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
> I've never found a way to sync Mobius to Mainstage. I think because it's not
> a typical DAW and there is no timeline, it can't be done.

Plug-ins sync through the AU protocol. It happens completely "under
the hood". If using Mobius AU as a plug-in of Mainstage Mobius I thing
it should sync just as Delay Designer and those guys - am I wrong
here? (I never slave sync Mobius, so I have not much hands-on
experience on that). Given Mobius is set to one  of the slave sync
option, of course, in its "Configuration/Presets/Synchroonization"
tab. I don't remember which one is correct but there are only about
three option so you can find out quickly by trial and error.

> Delay Designer
> is almost it's own instrument that way.

Yep, but a bit too rigid and CPU consuming for my taste (better in
Logic where CPU cycles are saved due to that host not being real-time
based). I like better to loop with the TapeDelay plugin. Assing and
expression pedal to *feedback* and also assign the same expression
pedal to *freeze* but scaled to freeze the loop only at the very
toe-down position. Then you can assign another expression pedal to
*note* or *groove* and make funny tape reel scratching noises on the
side. I think it's cool use a TApeDelay plug-in as part of the patch
PRE looper and maybe catch cool glitches in the loop by a quick
overdub as it happens. The "fidelity degradation" of the Tape Delay
sounds cool too. It even works in Freeze Mode but then the loop lasts
a lot longer, only slowly falls apart.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Rainer Straschill
<moinsound@googlemail.com>wrote:

> Roger said:
> > Not only for guitarists, the Ableton Looper gives you classic
> sound-on-sound looping without the limitations of a hardware device.
>
> Now I'm curious, and I'd like to ask those with lots of looping
> experience: what are the limitations of a hardware device which
> Ableton Looper doesn't have?
>
>          Rainer
>
>


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Roger said:<br>
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-sound looping without the limitations of a hardware device.<br>
<br>
Now I&#39;m curious, and I&#39;d like to ask those with lots of looping<br>
experience: what are the limitations of a hardware device which<br>
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I use Ableton for one shot loops and SooperLooper inside of it for  
overdub/sound-on-sound looping.
With 4GB of RAM on my MBP I can manage, safely, 6 SooperLooper loops  
and 6 Ableton ones.

works well so far

On Nov 6, 2009, at 7:36 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote:

>> Not only for guitarists, the Ableton Looper gives you classic sound- 
>> on-sound looping without the limitations of a hardware device.

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ps...i say "safely" because, while my computer is capable of live  
recording more simultaneous loops, I've just noticed that the glitch/ 
failure rate increases with each loop (esp if some of them are really  
long). So I like to stick with 6 and 6 since it seems the most stable.


On Nov 6, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Zoe Keating wrote:

> I use Ableton for one shot loops and SooperLooper inside of it for  
> overdub/sound-on-sound looping.
> With 4GB of RAM on my MBP I can manage, safely, 6 SooperLooper loops  
> and 6 Ableton ones.
>
> works well so far
>
> On Nov 6, 2009, at 7:36 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote:
>
>>> Not only for guitarists, the Ableton Looper gives you classic  
>>> sound-on-sound looping without the limitations of a hardware device.
>

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Hi everyone,

I'm parting with my Korg PE 1000 Polyphonic Ensemble synthesizer.

This is a vintage rarity, and those interested in it will probably
know what it is, so I'm not giving a detailed description here.

Introduced in 1976, it was Korg's first polyphonic synth, and
"polyphonic" here means one voice per key of its five-octave keyboard,
so if you want to play clusters with your underarm, this is definitely
the analogue synth to get. The synthesis section includes LP and HP
and a sub-voice, to give a few details.
The PE1000 is a unique analogue synthesizer voice with a specific
sound not found with other devices.

Condition: according to age very well, all keys, knobs and sound
generation work.

Going prices seem to be in the =80550-=80600 region. Will consider serious
offers, including trade offers for (among others):
  * Kurzweil K2500 or K2600 (keyboard or rack versions)
  * Oberheim Matrix 1000
  * Yamaha FS1R
  * Ensoniq Fizmo, SQ-R or similar
  * Kawai K5000R
  * Korg Karma v2

Shipment: can be picked up and tested in Munich/Germany. Would ship to
anywhere, buyer pays shipping and packaging. Please note that the
price range for sending it is around =8025 within the EU (outside of
Germany) and above =80100 f=FCr the US.
Payment: don't care how you get the money to me, as long as it gets to
me in the amount agreed on ;).

Replies off-list, please.

Yours,

         Rainer

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Just thought I'd drop a note that our perpetual ensemble, "The Lunar
Asylum", has been collaborating with visual artist NW Austin (great
musician too!), and he has been perusing our archives choosing
segments for video explorations. Needless to say, we've been floored
by his mesmerizing visuals and are stoked to now have super-duper
Lunar Asylum audio-visual artifacts!

NW has posted a new video "98 Loops" (audio circa 1998) at the link
below.  Please enjoy!  We'd love to hear any comments you have on the
piece.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnIvxC45xZk

Cheers,
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Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                Show #657                November 5, 2009.

RECAP:
On this show, I started a month-long focus on Fanger and Schonwalder.
The Featured CD at Midnight was disk one from Analog Overdose "The
Ricochet Dream Edition" on the Ricochet Dream label.

The first half of the show featured Steve Jolliffe who will be playing
a house concert on Saturday.

Fanger and Schonwalder:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#nov
Steve Jolliffe: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
In-studio concert and interview with Steve Jolliffe.

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Fanger & Schonwalder electronic mirrors   Analog Overdose - The Ricochet
                       CH. II-IV          Dream Edition (Ricochet Dream)
Fanger & Schonwalder encore               Analog Overdose - The Ricochet
                                          Dream Edition (Ricochet Dream)
Fanger & Schonwalder liquid tape 6        Analog Overdose - The Ricochet
                                          Dream Edition (Ricochet Dream)
Fanger & Schonwalder ems no. 1            Analog Overdose - The Ricochet
                                          Dream Edition (Ricochet Dream)

1:00 am

 * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on
Fanger and Schonwalder.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk two
from Analog Overdose "The Ricochet Dream Edition" on the Ricochet Dream
label.

Bill
=======================================================================
Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show,
Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in
Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on
93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville.  WDIY also broadcasts in HD
Digital Radio on 88.1 FM.
Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info

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Per Boysen wrote:

> Except for the feature your post mention you can also assign pedals to
> rate shift the loop. That means either transposing pitch one octave up
> and doubling the speed or transposing pitch one octave down and
> reducing speed to half the original tempo. If overdubbing new audio
> into the loop at those extremes the some interesting sound will come
> out when going back to normal speed/pitch.
> 

by "interesting" you mean?
(just curious)

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L.Angulo wrote:
> Hey gang,
> Has anybody have any experience with this series of mixers? 

They are made by Mackie.
They bought the old "Tapco" name to use for 
budget versions of their stuff, presumably as
a way of competing with Behringer without
dropping their regular prices.



oh, by the way, Rane (mixer manufacturers) say they don't know what a "service sheet" is!
(and that all their docs are available on the website)
so either
a) they're just being humourous
b) the term is not known outside uk (anyone?)
Anyway, I managed to find the schematic for the SM82 
under 'Manual' on their website
and the conclusion is:-
'They use the same cheap oop amps as the budget gear'.
All credit ot them for making Schematics (and layout)
easily available.



The guy at Alesis UK promised to mail me a service sheet 
for the line8 right away when I phoned (but didn't).
He said they're supposed to have the tech support mails forwarded
to them, but he never saw one.
Probably he just didn't write down my email correctly, so
I'll try again.

andy




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On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 12:45 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Per Boysen wrote:
>
>> Except for the feature your post mention you can also assign pedals to
>> rate shift the loop. That means either transposing pitch one octave up
>> and doubling the speed or transposing pitch one octave down and
>> reducing speed to half the original tempo. If overdubbing new audio
>> into the loop at those extremes the some interesting sound will come
>> out when going back to normal speed/pitch.
>>
>
> by "interesting" you mean?
> (just curious)

Sorry, I was just trying to cut down on text in that post. What I was
hinting at is of course that a sound overdubbed at half speed will
sound "speeded up" later when the loop is playing back at normal
speed/rate. And the other way around as well; overdubs done at double
speed will sound "bassy, slow and long" at normal speed/rate playback.

Per

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wow,amazing thanx for the eye opener, however i was interested more on the =
preamp comparison between the Alesis multimix 8 and the Rolls RM65B wich i =
currently own.=0AThanx mate=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A> =0A> oh, by the wa=
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the same cheap oop amps as the budget gear'.=0A> All credit ot them for mak=
ing Schematics (and layout)=0A> easily available.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> The gu=
y at Alesis UK promised to mail me a service sheet=0A> for the line8 right =
away when I phoned (but didn't).=0A> He said they're supposed to have the t=
ech support mails=0A> forwarded=0A> to them, but he never saw one.=0A> Prob=
ably he just didn't write down my email correctly, so=0A> I'll try again.=
=0A> =0A> andy=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A      

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ahh..well..
I got confused between Rolls and Rane :-)
...probably been confused about that for some time.



andy



L.Angulo wrote:
> wow,amazing thanx for the eye opener, however i was interested more on the preamp comparison between the Alesis multimix 8 and the Rolls RM65B wich i currently own.
> Thanx mate
> Luis
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> oh, by the way, Rane (mixer manufacturers) say they don't
>> know what a "service sheet" is!
>> (and that all their docs are available on the website)
>> so either
>> a) they're just being humourous
>> b) the term is not known outside uk (anyone?)
>> Anyway, I managed to find the schematic for the SM82 under
>> 'Manual' on their website
>> and the conclusion is:-
>> 'They use the same cheap oop amps as the budget gear'.
>> All credit ot them for making Schematics (and layout)
>> easily available.
>>
>>
>>
>> The guy at Alesis UK promised to mail me a service sheet
>> for the line8 right away when I phoned (but didn't).
>> He said they're supposed to have the tech support mails
>> forwarded
>> to them, but he never saw one.
>> Probably he just didn't write down my email correctly, so
>> I'll try again.
>>
>> andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
>       
> 
> 

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Ableton has the most byzantine pricing structure I've ever seen. I
can't figure out how much it will cost me to add Max for Live.

I can buy it for $299 from ableton. ouch.

It also appears that if you ever owned a version of Max, you can just
pay the price to upgrade to Max 5. I bought Max back in the 80s from
Opcode, and I'm licensed for version 3.6. I can upgrade to Max 5 for
$129 plus the $99 I'd still have to pay Ableton for the "crossgrade."
But the pricing page for Max for Live seems to imply that I need
Max/MSP, which would cost me $299 from cycling '74.

Just add to the confusion, I've got an academic version of Live 8, but
there doesn't seem to be academic pricing for Max for Live, maybe
because few people outside academia use Max.

Any way, that is a chunk of change.

I would recommend the upgrade to Live 8. The looper is nice. I like
how you get a lot of functionality off of one foot switch.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
> yeah, i'd like to do the whole Live 8 & Max4Live upgrade from Live 6,
> but I just upgraded Logic Studio and I just don't have the bucks! If
> Live8 *included* M4L (and instruments as luscious as Logic Studio, and
> a great loop browser), it would be reasonable, but this is out of the
> park. It's very cool, but I think the Ableton stuff is very
> overpriced.
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
>> If only it sounded as good as Mainstage. I love both, and am constantly
>> going back and forth. But I hope Ableton continues to develop Looper. Per is
>> right, its sync abilities are rock solid.
>>
>>
>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Per Boysen wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:45 PM, roger <roger@brecon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Looper is set up for remote operation, so you can record, overdub, undo
>>>> and
>>>> more without touching the computer.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone any experience of this.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I did it for hours yesterday. Was coaching an artist that is
>>> going out to loop his album material plus live instrument using Live
>>> 8.
>>>
>>> Except for the feature your post mention you can also assign pedals to
>>> rate shift the loop. That means either transposing pitch one octave up
>>> and doubling the speed or transposing pitch one octave down and
>>> reducing speed to half the original tempo. If overdubbing new audio
>>> into the loop at those extremes the some interesting sound will come
>>> out when going back to normal speed/pitch.
>>>
>>> Another feature is that you can instantly divide or multiply the loop
>>> length by 2. It's not possible to divide or multiply by 3 or any other
>>> number than 2. When multiplied it simply gets longer by repeating the
>>> same chunk of original audio. When divided it cuts out half of the
>>> original audio and loops that. If repeating the division by two you
>>> can get down to very fast loops down in granular land where everything
>>> sounds like pneumatic manufacturing processes.
>>>
>>> "Reverse" is also possible.
>>>
>>> All these tricks you do to the loop in the Looper plug-in seems to
>>> happen according to the global quantization you run the host Live at.
>>> I did not test yesterday, but I think you should be able to create
>>> some interesting poly rhythm by jumping between different quantization
>>> settings while working the loop in the Looper plug-in.
>>>
>>> The most powerful feature that comes with the Looper plug-in is that
>>> you can set it to calculate the tempo from the first loop you make and
>>> then start the host Live as you close the loop. Before Live 8 this has
>>> not been possible in any other way than by using a Looper that sends
>>> out MIDI Clock that Live follows. This new system is more solid both
>>> in the way it sounds and in the meaning of not crashing or "loosing
>>> contact with master tempo clock" (hated that error message in pre 8
>>> Live)
>>>
>>> Greetings from Sweden
>>>
>>> Per Boysen
>>> www.boysen.se
>>> www.perboysen.com
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Warren
> http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679
> http://www.warrensirota.com
>
>



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Subject: Re: looping with albeton live
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Zoe, have you experimented yet with Live's new looper as a possible
replacement for Sooperlooper?

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:

> ps...i say "safely" because, while my computer is capable of live recording
> more simultaneous loops, I've just noticed that the glitch/failure rate
> increases with each loop (esp if some of them are really long). So I like to
> stick with 6 and 6 since it seems the most stable.
>
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Zoe Keating wrote:
>
> I use Ableton for one shot loops and SooperLooper inside of it for
>> overdub/sound-on-sound looping.
>> With 4GB of RAM on my MBP I can manage, safely, 6 SooperLooper loops and 6
>> Ableton ones.
>>
>> works well so far
>>
>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 7:36 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote:
>>
>>  Not only for guitarists, the Ableton Looper gives you classic
>>>> sound-on-sound looping without the limitations of a hardware device.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>


-- 
-George

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<p>Zoe, have you experimented yet with Live&#39;s new looper as a possible =
replacement for Sooperlooper?</p>
<div>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Zoe Keating <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:info@zoekeating.com">info@zoekeating.c=
om</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">ps...i say &quot;safely&quot; be=
cause, while my computer is capable of live recording more simultaneous loo=
ps, I&#39;ve just noticed that the glitch/failure rate increases with each =
loop (esp if some of them are really long). So I like to stick with 6 and 6=
 since it seems the most stable.=20
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br><br><br>On Nov 6, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Zoe Keating wrote=
:<br><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">I use Ableton for one shot loops=
 and SooperLooper inside of it for overdub/sound-on-sound looping.<br>With =
4GB of RAM on my MBP I can manage, safely, 6 SooperLooper loops and 6 Ablet=
on ones.<br>
<br>works well so far<br><br>On Nov 6, 2009, at 7:36 AM, Rainer Straschill =
wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
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<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Not only for guitarists, the Abl=
eton Looper gives you classic sound-on-sound looping without the limitation=
s of a hardware device.<br>
</blockquote></blockquote><br></blockquote><br></div></div></blockquote><br=
><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-George<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.=
com/georgeludwigmusic">http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic</a><br>

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yes, i have. but only a little. i had a few problems with it.

- the first is latency. with just 4 loopers going i experienced  
significant audio latency and couldn't seem to get it down to  
negligible. i'm sure must be doing something wrong, but i conquered  
latency issues with my sooperlooper/ableton setup and it works great.  
i'm not wanting to spend a lot of time redoing my setup right now, but  
i will certainly try again later.

- next, multiple loops. if you have a bunch of these things at  
once...well how do you SEE them all? i couldn't figure this one out.  
if you know, do tell me how to make them float on top of the Ableton  
interface so i can see them all at once. maybe i'm missing some key  
piece of data?

- multi function transport buttons are not my favorite. lots of room  
for error when you're controlling many loopers. yes sooperlooper uses  
them too, but you can also send very specific midi messages (for  
example loop1 mute_off or loop1 mute_on) in addition to toggle  
messages (loop 1 mute - depends on the state of the loop). i can even  
have one function respond to 2 different midi messages (say, a note on  
CH16 and a program change on CH9). in Ableton everything is a toggle  
which does make it extremely simple, but this trips me up a lot when  
I'm controlling one shot loops in Ableton. sometimes I forget if a  
track is muted or not. i like to be able to fire commands that turn on  
6 loops, regardless of their state, while simultaneously turning off 4  
loops, regardless of their state. its true that sooperlooper is not  
perfect or consistent in its midi control implementation, for example,  
overdub is only accessible as a toggle in sooperlooper, as is record.   
but i REALLY like the way Jesse did the sooperlooper midi bindings.  
they're so flexible. it'll be hard to divorce me from that level of  
control ;-) but....if Ableton were to extend the functionality of the  
Looper to allow the functions to be accessed via midi separate from  
the interface....that would solve it.

- last....OSC. this doesn't affect the looping functionality of either  
looper. but i like that i can get OSC status messages out of  
sooperlooper (record state, loop length, position, etc) and send them  
to another computer that might do something with those messages. the  
OSC implementation of sooperlooper is non-standard, so you need  
something to translate its output...but it does work.

HOWEVER...

i have been using Ableton's looper in my recordings to recreate my  
"live" looping in the studio. that's been great. it was always hard  
for me to record high quality loops, and have them not be "hardcoded".




On Nov 7, 2009, at 11:02 AM, George Ludwig wrote:

> Zoe, have you experimented yet with Live's new looper as a possible  
> replacement for Sooperlooper?

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Hi Per,=0Ai am just reading this post,i dont usually read anything realted =
to Ableton since i dont use it but im starting to get interested in it.=0AS=
o from what i gathered your current setup is Ableton with mobius as a VST,c=
orrect? are there any latency differences between such setup and just using=
 mobius stand alone?=0Athanx=0Acheers=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=
=0A--- Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> schrieb am Sa, 7.11.2009:=0A=0A> Vo=
n: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>=0A> Betreff: Re: looping with albeton l=
ive=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Samstag, 7. Nove=
mber 2009, 5:19=0A> On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 12:45 PM, andy=0A> butler <akbut=
ler@tiscali.co.uk>=0A> wrote:=0A> >=0A> > Per Boysen wrote:=0A> >=0A> >> Ex=
cept for the feature your post mention you can=0A> also assign pedals to=0A=
> >> rate shift the loop. That means either transposing=0A> pitch one octav=
e up=0A> >> and doubling the speed or transposing pitch one=0A> octave down=
 and=0A> >> reducing speed to half the original tempo. If=0A> overdubbing n=
ew audio=0A> >> into the loop at those extremes the some=0A> interesting so=
und will come=0A> >> out when going back to normal speed/pitch.=0A> >>=0A> =
>=0A> > by "interesting" you mean?=0A> > (just curious)=0A> =0A> Sorry, I w=
as just trying to cut down on text in that post.=0A> What I was=0A> hinting=
 at is of course that a sound overdubbed at half=0A> speed will=0A> sound "=
speeded up" later when the loop is playing back at=0A> normal=0A> speed/rat=
e. And the other way around as well; overdubs done=0A> at double=0A> speed =
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On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 12:34 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
> So from what i gathered your current setup is Ableton with mobius as a VST,correct?

No. I just helped a fellow musician to prepare a live set with Live
8.0.9. He is doing an important gig in London. We used Live's plug-in
Looper because this guy doesn't want to do much looping. He is
focusing his live set on playing electric dub bass (jazzmaster) and
tweaking feedback delay chains in live (dubby tape delay simulation).

> are there any latency differences between such setup and just using mobius stand alone?

No.

Greetings from Sweden

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Hi gang,

I'm looking for a program that will convert individual drum audio
recordings (e.g. close-miked bass drum or snare drum) to MIDI.

Now comes the tricky part: it should be sensitive to velocity, i.e.
louder drum hits should be MIDI notes with higher velocity.

Platform: Windows XP.

No realtime requirements, a standalone/offline solution is very much acceptable.

Yours,

                Rainer

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I've never used it but I've seen this advertised in the magazines.

http://www.drumagog.com/

There areothers:

http://www.drumwerks.com/free_drum_replacement_software.html


Jeff

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Drumagog?  Works well enough for me.  New version coming out soon.   
Usually used for drum replacement.

Of course, the old LinnDrum and Alesis drum machines (Sort of) do this  
too.  Not sure if they output MIDI though.  Drumagog does.

R

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On Nov 8, 2009, at 6:44 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote:

> Hi gang,
>
> I'm looking for a program that will convert individual drum audio
> recordings (e.g. close-miked bass drum or snare drum) to MIDI.
>
> Now comes the tricky part: it should be sensitive to velocity, i.e.
> louder drum hits should be MIDI notes with higher velocity.
>
> Platform: Windows XP.
>
> No realtime requirements, a standalone/offline solution is very much  
> acceptable.
>
> Yours,
>
>                Rainer
>









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It just hit me that Melodyne can do this.
(Logic too, but that's only OSX.)

Greetings from Sweden

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Mech schrieb:
> At 4:56 PM -0800 11/4/09, Art Simon wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
>>  >
>>  > Public BetaTest Program for Max For Live has been announced:
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>> Woohoo! Thanks Mech, I've been waiting for this : )
> 
> De nada!  Now download it and go make something cool!!!  :D

I sent in some devices to www.maxforlive.com already, more to come 'till 
the end of beta... After that I need to find some funds for buying Live 
to keep on goin'...

Stefan

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Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever knowledge they contribut=
ed over the past 2 years-

Here are 2 videos-

"The Sermon"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw

"How you waste it"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA


since im hangin up the towel=2C i hope these vids inspire you all-
dont focus on the gear-
simply focus on the message and ask yourself if your music makes the world =
a better place-
if not=2C then whats the point?


im goin on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead of hiding=
 behind my song or lyric-
dunno when ill be back-

good luck everyone

fro

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Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever knowledge they contribut=
ed over the past 2 years-<br><br>Here are 2 videos-<br><br>"The Sermon"<br>=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw<br><br>"How you waste it"<br>h=
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA<br><br><br>since im hangin up t=
he towel=2C i hope these vids inspire you all-<br>dont focus on the gear-<b=
r>simply focus on the message and ask yourself if your music makes the worl=
d a better place-<br>if not=2C then whats the point?<br><br><br>im goin on =
a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead of hiding behind my =
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- Dear Friend, I am Dr Lawrins Hosen,The regional manager of the International Commercial Bank of Ghana, first-light kaneshie branch in the Western Region of Ghana. I have made a deep and careful findings and research before contacting you and believe you can be the one to assist me in this transaction. Can i have your trust and confidence. I have packaged a financial transaction that would benefit i and you, it is my duty to send in a financial report to my head office in the capital city Accra at the end of each year, and on the course of last year 2008 end of year report,I discovered that my branch which am the manager made an excess profit of $5.200.000.00USD ( five Million, two Hundred Thousand United States Dollars) which my head office is not aware of, I have since placed this funds on what we call ESCROW ACCOUNT without any beneficiary.As an officer of the bank i can not be directly, connected to this funds,this is why i need you to stand and assist me receive this funds into your bank account for us to SHARE.i will offer 20% of the funds, for your asisstance. And note that there are practically no risks involved in this transaction,it will be bank to bank transfer,all I need from you is to stand and claim as the original depositor of this money who made the deposit with Kaneshie branch so that my Head office can order the transfer to your designated bank account, I assure you we can achieve this successfully.Waiting your urgent reply. Best regard Dr Lawrins Hosen. Tel:+233-261409895.


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Absolutly fantastic Fro! I hope for all you seek to come true, truly =
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Jeff
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  Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever knowledge they =
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  Here are 2 videos-

  "The Sermon"
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw

  "How you waste it"
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA


  since im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspire you all-
  dont focus on the gear-
  simply focus on the message and ask yourself if your music makes the =
world a better place-
  if not, then whats the point?


  im goin on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead of =
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  dunno when ill be back-

  good luck everyone

  fro



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here here!! most excellent performances! :)

Quoting Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>:

> Absolutly fantastic Fro! I hope for all you seek to come true, truly =20
>  inspiring.
>
> Jeff
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: FRO DIDDLY
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>   "How you waste it"
>   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA
>
>
>   since im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspire you all-
>   dont focus on the gear-
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>
>
>   im goin on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead  =20
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>   good luck everyone
>
>   fro
>
>
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I just got word that my Pico is about to be shipped!!!!

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 12:14 AM, michael noble <looplog@gmail.com> wrote:

> ummmm, gnu/Linux support? ;)
>
> Actually, my question is not entirely facetious, as one of the company
> founders is a Linux user and advocate. So if you can find out any info about
> Linux support, I'd appreciate it.
>
> -michael
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I seem to be giving this link a lot today :)
>>
>> http://www.eigenlabs.com/software/
>>
>> "Windows software support expected January 2010."
>>
>>
>> os.
>>
>>


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I just got word that my Pico is about to be shipped!!!!<br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 12:14 AM, michael noble <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:looplog@gmail.com">looplog@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">ummmm, gnu/Linux =
support? ;)<br><br>Actually, my question is not entirely facetious, as one =
of the company founders is a Linux user and advocate. So if you can find ou=
t any info about Linux support, I&#39;d appreciate it.<br>

<font color=3D"#888888">
<br>-michael</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Os <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:os@collective.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">os@collective.co.uk</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I seem to be giving this link a lot today :)<br>
<div><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.eigenlabs.com/software/" target=3D"_blank">http://www=
.eigenlabs.com/software/</a><br>
<br>
</div>&quot;Windows software support expected January 2010.&quot;<br>
<br>
<br>
os.<br><br>
</blockquote></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br> =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 /t<br><br>

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I can be a relieve to play an instrument, press the record button,
playing simple notes and chords and feel good. Nothing special but I
like it, a kind of Sylvian soundtrack. Enjoy :)

http://euroloopfest.com/premonitionfactory/demos/02_Piano_voices.mp3

-- 
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Sjaak that's really lovely, very felt response to the keys and yes Sylvian
comes to mind... good stuff sir.

jim

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can be a relieve to play an instrument, press the record button,
> playing simple notes and chords and feel good. Nothing special but I
> like it, a kind of Sylvian soundtrack. Enjoy :)
>
> http://euroloopfest.com/premonitionfactory/demos/02_Piano_voices.mp3
>
> --
> Sjaak Overgaauw
> http://premonitionfactory.com/
> http://livelooping.be/
> http://euroloopfest.com/
>
>


-- 
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music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

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<div>Sjaak that&#39;s really lovely, very felt response to the keys and yes=
 Sylvian comes to mind... good stuff sir.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>jim<br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tcplugin@gmail.com">tcplugin@gmail.=
com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">I can be a relieve to play an in=
strument, press the record button,<br>playing simple notes and chords and f=
eel good. Nothing special but I<br>
like it, a kind of Sylvian soundtrack. Enjoy :)<br><br><a href=3D"http://eu=
roloopfest.com/premonitionfactory/demos/02_Piano_voices.mp3" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://euroloopfest.com/premonitionfactory/demos/02_Piano_voices.mp3</a=
><br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>--<br>Sjaak Overgaauw<br><a href=3D"http://prem=
onitionfactory.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://premonitionfactory.com/</a><b=
r><a href=3D"http://livelooping.be/" target=3D"_blank">http://livelooping.b=
e/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://euroloopfest.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://euroloopfest.=
com/</a><br><br></font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>=
ReUse, an introspective textural aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com=
/CtReUse">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br>
<br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgood=
inmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinap=
aintingmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">w=
ww.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.myspace.com/china=
paintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelect=
ro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.mys=
pace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/j=
imgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networkin=
g...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodin=
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I have a mint condition LP1 that's never left the house, in need of a new home. I'm moving to an all software setup and need to purchase a new audio interface.  All offers considered.

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Anybody have experience how this performs in a live situation?
> http://www.drumagog.com/

Can you really use it real-time?

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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sjaak that's really lovely, very felt response to the keys and yes Sylvian
> comes to mind... good stuff sir.
> http://euroloopfest.com/premonitionfactory/demos/02_Piano_voices.mp3

Thanks Jim, it's a "studio" live improv, I'm glad you like it.
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Hi Buzap,
I've it on my iPhone. Never used it in a live context, but I'll do for  
sure.
It's really responsive to your finger and the mic mode is a lot of fun.
I wasn't able to load my samples till now, but i haven't spent enough  
time on it.
It also seems to have a limited memory, so sometimes you can't load  
samples for each pad.
For what it costs it's a lot of fun.

Fabio
www.eterogeneo.com


Il giorno 10/nov/2009, alle ore 08.42, "Buzap Buzap" <buzap@gmx.net>  
ha scritto:

> Anybody have experience how this performs in a live situation?
>> http://www.drumagog.com/
>
> Can you really use it real-time?
>
> best regars
> Buzap
>
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Well done Sjaak

2009/11/10 Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com>

> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Sjaak that's really lovely, very felt response to the keys and yes
> Sylvian
> > comes to mind... good stuff sir.
> > http://euroloopfest.com/premonitionfactory/demos/02_Piano_voices.mp3
>
> Thanks Jim, it's a "studio" live improv, I'm glad you like it.
> --
>  Sjaak Overgaauw
> http://premonitionfactory.com/
> http://livelooping.be/
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Well done Sjaak<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/11/10 Sjaak Overgaauw <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
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y/demos/02_Piano_voices.mp3" target=3D"_blank">http://euroloopfest.com/prem=
onitionfactory/demos/02_Piano_voices.mp3</a><br><br></div>Thanks Jim, it&#3=
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two evenings ago I played a little guitar before going to bed. This is one
of the takes, a quiet improv over two chords, with the midified guitar also
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"The Sermon"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw

"How you waste it"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA

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Sjaak,

Downloaded it and opened and looped it in Quicktime all evening long.

Made a nice, gentle, meditative background.

Thanks!

Ted

On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote:

> I can be a relieve to play an instrument, press the record button,
> playing simple notes and chords and feel good. Nothing special but I
> like it, a kind of Sylvian soundtrack. Enjoy :)
>
> http://euroloopfest.com/premonitionfactory/demos/02_Piano_voices.mp3
>
> -- 
> Sjaak Overgaauw
> http://premonitionfactory.com/
> http://livelooping.be/
> http://euroloopfest.com/

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Wow.  How you waste it does lead cause to think so in a sense Fro it's how
you helped a community today.  Wonderful spirited building piece - you seem
quite a committed soul moved to greater calling.  Wishing you will as your
muse leads you.

Jim
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com



On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM, FRO DIDDLY <parispro00@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever knowledge they
> contributed over the past 2 years-
>
> Here are 2 videos-
>
> "The Sermon"
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_jjoVO9Jzw
>
> "How you waste it"
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brZp4tMcsmA
>
>
> since im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspire you all-
> dont focus on the gear-
> simply focus on the message and ask yourself if your music makes the world
> a better place-
> if not, then whats the point?
>
>
> im goin on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead of hiding
> behind my song or lyric-
> dunno when ill be back-
>
> good luck everyone
>
> fro
>
>
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www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
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social networking...
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&#39;s how you helped a community today.=A0 Wonderful spirited building pie=
ce - you seem quite a committed soul moved to greater calling.=A0 Wishing y=
ou will as your muse leads you.</div>

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<div><a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/">www.chinapaintingmusic.=
com</a></div>
<div><br><br>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM, FRO DIDDLY <span=
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il.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever knowledge they cont=
ributed over the past 2 years-<br><br>Here are 2 videos-<br><br>&quot;The S=
ermon&quot;<br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw</a><br>
<br>&quot;How you waste it&quot;<br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch=
?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4t=
McsmA</a><br><br><br>since im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspir=
e you all-<br>
dont focus on the gear-<br>simply focus on the message and ask yourself if =
your music makes the world a better place-<br>if not, then whats the point?=
<br><br><br>im goin on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly inste=
ad of hiding behind my song or lyric-<br>
dunno when ill be back-<br><br>good luck everyone<br><font color=3D"#888888=
"><br>fro<br></font>
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om/CtReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusi=
c.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
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w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
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al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:15 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> w=
rote:
> Sjaak,
> Downloaded it and opened and looped it in Quicktime all evening long.
> Made a nice, gentle, meditative background.
>
> Thanks!
> Ted

Ted, I sometimes have the need to play stuff like this. It reminds me
of the time when I bought my 1st David Sylvian album, Gone to Earth, I
think in 1986-1987. Whenever I went to sleep, the cd player was
playing the instrumental songs all night long. I still love this album
today, it gives me lot's of positive energy and the song I recorded
yesterday reminds me of this period.
--=20
Sjaak Overgaauw
http://premonitionfactory.com/
http://livelooping.be/
http://euroloopfest.com/

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I used to listen to Miles Davis "Great Expectations" every night before
bed.  The last couple years it's been Erik Satie, "Nocturnes" "Danse De
Travers" and "Pieces Froides" along with a couple of Radiohead with my fave
being "Sail Me To The Moon".  It's my idealized subconscious musical
programming.

Lately I've actually been moving back towards a new playlist of various
Miles stuff . . .

-m

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:

> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:15 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>
> wrote:
> > Sjaak,
> > Downloaded it and opened and looped it in Quicktime all evening long.
> > Made a nice, gentle, meditative background.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Ted
>
> Ted, I sometimes have the need to play stuff like this. It reminds me
> of the time when I bought my 1st David Sylvian album, Gone to Earth, I
> think in 1986-1987. Whenever I went to sleep, the cd player was
> playing the instrumental songs all night long. I still love this album
> today, it gives me lot's of positive energy and the song I recorded
> yesterday reminds me of this period.
> --
> Sjaak Overgaauw
> http://premonitionfactory.com/
> http://livelooping.be/
> http://euroloopfest.com/
>
>


--=20
Mikko Biffle
Biffoz@Gmail.com
http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz
"Running scared from all the usual distractions!"

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I used to listen to Miles Davis &quot;Great Expectations&quot; every night =
before bed.=A0 The last couple years it&#39;s been Erik Satie, &quot;Noctur=
nes&quot; &quot;Danse De Travers&quot; and &quot;Pieces Froides&quot; along=
 with a couple of Radiohead with my fave being &quot;Sail Me To The Moon&qu=
ot;.=A0 It&#39;s my idealized subconscious musical programming.=A0 <br>
<br>Lately I&#39;ve actually been moving back towards a new playlist of var=
ious Miles stuff . . . <br><br>-m<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue,=
 Nov 10, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:tcplugin@gmail.com">tcplugin@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On Tue, Nov 10, 2=
009 at 4:15 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tedkillian@charter.ne=
t">tedkillian@charter.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>

&gt; Sjaak,<br>
&gt; Downloaded it and opened and looped it in Quicktime all evening long.<=
br>
&gt; Made a nice, gentle, meditative background.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks!<br>
&gt; Ted<br>
<br>
Ted, I sometimes have the need to play stuff like this. It reminds me<br>
of the time when I bought my 1st David Sylvian album, Gone to Earth, I<br>
think in 1986-1987. Whenever I went to sleep, the cd player was<br>
playing the instrumental songs all night long. I still love this album<br>
today, it gives me lot&#39;s of positive energy and the song I recorded<br>
yesterday reminds me of this period.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
Sjaak Overgaauw<br>
<a href=3D"http://premonitionfactory.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://premoni=
tionfactory.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://livelooping.be/" target=3D"_blank">http://livelooping.be/=
</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://euroloopfest.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://euroloopfest.=
com/</a><br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Mikko Biffle<br>=
Biffoz@Gmail.com<br><a href=3D"http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz">http://w=
ww.reverbnation.com/biffoz</a><br>&quot;Running scared from all the usual d=
istractions!&quot;<br>


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really wonderful FRO thanx for all the tips you gave as well,thoguh i know =
you use mobius im still curious how you are doing all of it!
cheers
www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> schrieb am Mo, 9.11.2009:

> Von: Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
> Betreff: Re: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure-
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Datum: Montag, 9. November 2009, 12:32
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> Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever
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>   they contributed over the past 2 years-
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> Here are 2 videos-
>=20
> "The=20
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw
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> "How=20
>   you waste it"
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>=20
>=20
> since=20
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> all-
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> if not, then whats the point?
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> im goin=20
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> of hiding behind my=20
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> good luck=20
>   everyone
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inspiring! ... thanks for this, FRO.

2009/11/11 L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com>

> really wonderful FRO thanx for all the tips you gave as well,thoguh i know
> you use mobius im still curious how you are doing all of it!
> cheers
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>
>
> --- Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> schrieb am Mo, 9.11.2009:
>
> > Von: Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
> > Betreff: Re: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure-
> > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Datum: Montag, 9. November 2009, 12:32
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> > Absolutly fantastic Fro! I hope for
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> >   Sent: Monday,
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> >   Subject: FRO videos
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> > Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever
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> >
> > Here are 2 videos-
> >
> > "The
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> >
> > since
> >   im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspire you
> > all-
> > dont focus on
> >   the gear-
> > simply focus on the message and ask yourself if your music
> > makes
> >   the world a better place-
> > if not, then whats the point?
> >
> >
> > im goin
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> > dunno when ill be back-
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> > good luck
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inspiring! ... thanks for this, FRO.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009=
/11/11 L.Angulo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com=
">labaloops@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8e=
x; padding-left: 1ex;">
really wonderful FRO thanx for all the tips you gave as well,thoguh i know =
you use mobius im still curious how you are doing all of it!<br>
cheers<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom" target=3D"_blank">www.mysp=
ace.com/luisangulocom</a><br>
<br>
<br>
--- Jeff Duke &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com">jeff_d@embarqmai=
l.com</a>&gt; schrieb am Mo, 9.11.2009:<br>
<br>
&gt; Von: Jeff Duke &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com">jeff_d@emb=
arqmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Betreff: Re: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure-<br>
&gt; An: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Del=
ight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
&gt; Datum: Montag, 9. November 2009, 12:32<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; #yiv1854770628 .hmmessage P {<br>
&gt; PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN:0px;PADDI=
NG-TOP:0px;}<br>
&gt; #yiv1854770628 {<br>
&gt; FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Verdana;}<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Absolutly fantastic Fro! I hope for<br>
&gt; all you seek to come<br>
&gt; true, truly inspiring.<br>
&gt; =A0<br>
&gt; Jeff<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =A0 ----- Original Message<br>
&gt; -----<br>
&gt; =A0 From:<br>
&gt; =A0 FRO<br>
&gt; =A0 DIDDLY<br>
&gt; =A0 To: <a href=3D"mailto:loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com">loopers=
-delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =A0 Sent: Monday,<br>
&gt; November 09, 2009 2:20<br>
&gt; =A0 PM<br>
&gt; =A0 Subject: FRO videos<br>
&gt; for your viewing<br>
&gt; =A0 pleasure-<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever<br>
&gt; knowledge<br>
&gt; =A0 they contributed over the past 2 years-<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Here are 2 videos-<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &quot;The<br>
&gt; =A0 Sermon&quot;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &quot;How<br>
&gt; =A0 you waste it&quot;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; since<br>
&gt; =A0 im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspire you<br>
&gt; all-<br>
&gt; dont focus on<br>
&gt; =A0 the gear-<br>
&gt; simply focus on the message and ask yourself if your music<br>
&gt; makes<br>
&gt; =A0 the world a better place-<br>
&gt; if not, then whats the point?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; im goin<br>
&gt; =A0 on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead<br>
&gt; of hiding behind my<br>
&gt; =A0 song or lyric-<br>
&gt; dunno when ill be back-<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; good luck<br>
&gt; =A0 everyone<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; fro<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =A0 Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft&#39;s powerful SPAM<br>
&gt; protection. Sign up now.<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
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 at Blogger: <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://raulbonell.b=
logspot.com</a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href=3D"http://www.ct-collecti=
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Hi,

I found a good Stick looping video:
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=55955269

To me one great attraction of the Stick is that this instrument's
doesn't necessarily need a looping device to let you improvise multi
part arrangements on the fly. When you don't have to use looping
constantly you become able to use a flowing tempo, another thing I
like a lot. Each one of the two string sets have its own pickup an
output that lets you play two amp rigs or two completely different
effect pedalboards. I think Greg Howard shows off all these great
things with the Stick in this live clip. Maybe it is be more accurate
to call this video "Stick Playing With Looping" rather than "Stick
Looping" ?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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Interesting !

fabio
www.eterogeneo.com
2009/11/11 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
> I found a good Stick looping video:
>
> http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=55955269
>
> To me one great attraction of the Stick is that this instrument's
> doesn't necessarily need a looping device to let you improvise multi
> part arrangements on the fly. When you don't have to use looping
> constantly you become able to use a flowing tempo, another thing I
> like a lot. Each one of the two string sets have its own pickup an
> output that lets you play two amp rigs or two completely different
> effect pedalboards. I think Greg Howard shows off all these great
> things with the Stick in this live clip. Maybe it is be more accurate
> to call this video "Stick Playing With Looping" rather than "Stick
> Looping" ?
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>

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<div>Interesting !</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>fabio</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.eterogeneo.com/">www.eterogeneo.com</a><br></div=
>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/11/11 Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi,<br><br>I found a good Stick =
looping video:<br><a href=3D"http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=
=3Dvids.individual&amp;videoid=3D55955269" target=3D"_blank">http://vids.my=
space.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=3Dvids.individual&amp;videoid=3D55955269</a>=
<br>
<br>To me one great attraction of the Stick is that this instrument&#39;s<b=
r>doesn&#39;t necessarily need a looping device to let you improvise multi<=
br>part arrangements on the fly. When you don&#39;t have to use looping<br>
constantly you become able to use a flowing tempo, another thing I<br>like =
a lot. Each one of the two string sets have its own pickup an<br>output tha=
t lets you play two amp rigs or two completely different<br>effect pedalboa=
rds. I think Greg Howard shows off all these great<br>
things with the Stick in this live clip. Maybe it is be more accurate<br>to=
 call this video &quot;Stick Playing With Looping&quot; rather than &quot;S=
tick<br>Looping&quot; ?<br><br>Greetings from Sweden<br><font color=3D"#888=
888"><br>
Per Boysen<br><a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se/" target=3D"_blank">www.boyse=
n.se</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.per=
boysen.com</a><br><br></font></blockquote></div><br>

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Hi Fabio

> It also seems to have a limited memory, so sometimes you can't load  
> samples for each pad.
> For what it costs it's a lot of fun.

For 200-380$ ? 
It'd better be really good...

best regards
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When going into software looping, the main question for me was Ableton vs. Mobius: Structurally, I am looping in a way similar to Ableton, yet, I'd like to have the powerful looping features of Mobius, too.

So, I have decided to use Mainstage + Mobius and am quite happy with it.
In fact, with my recent Mobius scripts, Mobius behaves more and more like Ableton, i.e. switching "scenes" with multiple loops... :-)

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I have been experimenting using both. Ableton's looper sets the tempo  
beautifully pretty much every time. If I need more options, I have  
mobius set up on another send. Mobius sometimes makes Ableton a little  
unstable and I have yet to try this onstage, but it works pretty well.
I love Mainstage and how it sounds, but I am getting pops and cpu  
spikes still, which makes me mental. Maybe when I upgrade to 4 gig  
Macbook. :)

On Nov 11, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote:

> When going into software looping, the main question for me was  
> Ableton vs. Mobius: Structurally, I am looping in a way similar to  
> Ableton, yet, I'd like to have the powerful looping features of  
> Mobius, too.
>
> So, I have decided to use Mainstage + Mobius and am quite happy with  
> it.
> In fact, with my recent Mobius scripts, Mobius behaves more and more  
> like Ableton, i.e. switching "scenes" with multiple loops... :-)
>
> best regards
> Buzap
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Hi Sjaak,

Great dreamy sound.
Love your choice of sounds.
This is something I'm trying to get with my nylon and effects.

Thanks for sharing,

Andre

On Mon, November 9, 2009 7:31 pm, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote:
> I can be a relieve to play an instrument, press the record button,
> playing simple notes and chords and feel good. Nothing special but I
> like it, a kind of Sylvian soundtrack. Enjoy :)
>
> http://euroloopfest.com/premonitionfactory/demos/02_Piano_voices.mp3
>
> --
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> http://livelooping.be/
> http://euroloopfest.com/
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>


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Hi Michael,

Sweet track.
I've got this and Sjaak's in my CD player to chill me out for my last hour
before I go into Dreamland.

Love the vocal element.
I wish I had spent some more time checking out your setup.
I'm trying to get away from my external mixing board.
What do you use to get from your guitar to the audio interface?

Andre

On Tue, November 10, 2009 6:56 am, Michael Peters wrote:
> two evenings ago I played a little guitar before going to bed. This is one
> of the takes, a quiet improv over two chords, with the midified guitar
> also
> triggering voice samples. Enjoy
> http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/2chordsaftermidnight.m
> p3
>
> -Michael
> www.michaelpeters.de
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Ah Sjaak! very very good! like a breath of fresh air looking at the
iceland while dreaming in the forest!<br>
;-) you are great!<br>
<pre>Max Liver

Sjaak Overgaauw ha scritto:
&gt; I can be a relieve to play an instrument, press the record button,
&gt; playing simple notes and chords and feel good. Nothing special but I
&gt; like it, a kind of Sylvian soundtrack. Enjoy :)
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On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
> I love Mainstage and how it sounds, but I am getting pops and cpu spikes
> still, which makes me mental. Maybe when I upgrade to 4 gig Macbook. :)

Hi Chris,
I use Mainstage and Mobius with a standard 2008 white Macbook with 4
gb of memory. A few tips on how to minimize pops and cpu spikes:
Upgrade your audio card drivers to the latest version. Also, make sure
you use the right buffersize. This depends on how much CPU is used by
the plugins you use. For example, the fantastic Delay Designer can be
cpu hungry. Start with 64 and increase it to 128, 256 or 512 when the
CPU load is too high.

Before I start a live set, I always cycle thru my Mainstage patches
twice; this way the patches are actually activated and that usually
avoids pops or spikes when you switch patches after it. Also, make
sure you check the preference "Silence Previous Patch" which is the
amount of time sustained notes and effects tails continue to sound
before falling to silence when you select a new patch. I use a setting
of 60 seconds and that gives delays enough time to end nicely. Hope
this helps.
-- 
Sjaak Overgaauw
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http://euroloopfest.com/

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Thanks, Fro. Your performance touched me
Good Luck

fabio
www.eterogeneo.com

2009/11/9 FRO DIDDLY <parispro00@hotmail.com>

> Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever knowledge they
> contributed over the past 2 years-
>
> Here are 2 videos-
>
> "The Sermon"
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_jjoVO9Jzw
>
> "How you waste it"
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brZp4tMcsmA
>
>
> since im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspire you all-
> dont focus on the gear-
> simply focus on the message and ask yourself if your music makes the world
> a better place-
> if not, then whats the point?
>
>
> im goin on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead of hiding
> behind my song or lyric-
> dunno when ill be back-
>
> good luck everyone
>
> fro
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<div>Thanks, Fro. Your performance touched me</div>
<div>Good Luck </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>fabio</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.eterogeneo.com/">www.eterogeneo.com</a><br><br><=
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/11/9 FRO DIDDLY <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:parispro00@hotmail.com">parispro00@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span><=
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<div>Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever knowledge they cont=
ributed over the past 2 years-<br><br>Here are 2 videos-<br><br>&quot;The S=
ermon&quot;<br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw</a><br>
<br>&quot;How you waste it&quot;<br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch=
?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4t=
McsmA</a><br><br><br>since im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspir=
e you all-<br>
dont focus on the gear-<br>simply focus on the message and ask yourself if =
your music makes the world a better place-<br>if not, then whats the point?=
<br><br><br>im goin on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly inste=
ad of hiding behind my song or lyric-<br>
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FRO . . . after listening to both pieces, all I can say is YES, it's making
a difference and YES, you ARE making your point eloquently and positively
and inspirationally.  All the best in your travels! Come back with some new
stories and reflections . . . Peace, -miko

2009/11/9 FRO DIDDLY <parispro00@hotmail.com>
>
>> Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever knowledge they
>> contributed over the past 2 years-
>>
>> Here are 2 videos-
>>
>> "The Sermon"
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_jjoVO9Jzw
>>
>> "How you waste it"
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brZp4tMcsmA
>>
>>
>> since im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspire you all-dont focus
>> on the gear-simply focus on the message and ask yourself if your music makes
>> the world a better place-if not, then whats the point?
>>
>>
>> im goin on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead of
>> hiding behind my song or lyric-dunno when ill be back-
>>
>> good luck everyone
>>
>> fro
>>
>
-- 
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FRO . . . after listening to both pieces, all I can say is YES, it&#39;s ma=
king a difference and YES, you ARE making your point eloquently and positiv=
ely and inspirationally.=A0 All the best in your travels! Come back with so=
me new stories and reflections . . . Peace, -miko<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"b=
order-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; paddin=
g-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/11/9 FRO DIDDLY <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:parispro00@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">parisp=
ro00@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>Wanted to take time to thank everyone for whatever knowledge they cont=
ributed over the past 2 years-<br><br>Here are 2 videos-<br><br>&quot;The S=
ermon&quot;<br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw</a><br>

<br>&quot;How you waste it&quot;<br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch=
?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA" target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4t=
McsmA</a><br><br><br>since im hangin up the towel, i hope these vids inspir=
e you all-dont focus on the gear-simply focus on the message and ask yourse=
lf if your music makes the world a better place-if not, then whats the poin=
t?<br>
<br><br>im goin on a walkabout- gonna try to help people directly instead o=
f hiding behind my song or lyric-dunno when ill be back-<br><br>good luck e=
veryone<br><font color=3D"#888888"><br>fro</font></div></blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div><br>-- <br>Mikko Biffle<br>Biffoz@Gmail.com<br><a href=
=3D"http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz">http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz<=
/a><br>&quot;Running scared from all the usual distractions!&quot;<br>

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Michael I meant to write yesterday when I heard it and got distracted but I
would echo Andre's thoughts, your piece and Sjaak's were like twin sons of
different mothers kind of thing, very dreamy, simple in structure yet quite
emotive and powerful.  Excellent felt work on both parts guys...

jim

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Andr=E9 Donawa <andre@andredonawa.com> wro=
te:

> Hi Michael,
>
> Sweet track.
> I've got this and Sjaak's in my CD player to chill me out for my last hou=
r
> before I go into Dreamland.
>
> Love the vocal element.
> I wish I had spent some more time checking out your setup.
> I'm trying to get away from my external mixing board.
> What do you use to get from your guitar to the audio interface?
>
> Andre
>
> On Tue, November 10, 2009 6:56 am, Michael Peters wrote:
> > two evenings ago I played a little guitar before going to bed. This is
> one
> > of the takes, a quiet improv over two chords, with the midified guitar
> > also
> > triggering voice samples. Enjoy
> >
> http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/2chordsaftermidnigh=
t.m
> > p3
> >
> > -Michael
> > www.michaelpeters.de
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Andre Donawa
> Barbados Guitar School
> Woodside Gardens
> Bay St.
> St. Michael
> Barbados
>  11157
> Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office)
>     246 436 8294 (School)
>
> http://www.barbadosguitar.com
> http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa
> http://www.andredonawa.com
> http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa
> http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa
>
>


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<div>Michael I meant to write yesterday when I heard it and got distracted =
but I would echo Andre&#39;s thoughts, your piece and Sjaak&#39;s were like=
 twin sons of different mothers kind of thing, very dreamy, simple in struc=
ture yet quite emotive and powerful.=A0 Excellent felt work on both parts g=
uys...</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>jim<br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Andr=E9 Donawa =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:andre@andredonawa.com">andre@andred=
onawa.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Hi Michael,<br><br>Sweet track.<=
br>I&#39;ve got this and Sjaak&#39;s in my CD player to chill me out for my=
 last hour<br>
before I go into Dreamland.<br><br>Love the vocal element.<br>I wish I had =
spent some more time checking out your setup.<br>I&#39;m trying to get away=
 from my external mixing board.<br>What do you use to get from your guitar =
to the audio interface?<br>
<br>Andre<br>
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br>On Tue, November 10, 2009 6:56 am, Michael Peters wro=
te:<br>&gt; two evenings ago I played a little guitar before going to bed. =
This is one<br>&gt; of the takes, a quiet improv over two chords, with the =
midified guitar<br>
&gt; also<br>&gt; triggering voice samples. Enjoy<br>&gt; <a href=3D"http:/=
/www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/2chordsaftermidnight.m" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/2chord=
saftermidnight.m</a><br>
&gt; p3<br>&gt;<br>&gt; -Michael<br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.michaelpeter=
s.de/" target=3D"_blank">www.michaelpeters.de</a><br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<b=
r>&gt;<br><br><br></div></div>Andre Donawa<br>Barbados Guitar School<br>Woo=
dside Gardens<br>
Bay St.<br>St. Michael<br>Barbados<br>=A011157<br>Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office=
)<br>=A0 =A0 246 436 8294 (School)<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.barbadosgui=
tar.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.barbadosguitar.com</a><br><a href=3D=
"http://twitter.com/AndreDonawa" target=3D"_blank">http://twitter.com/Andre=
Donawa</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.andredonawa.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.andred=
onawa.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspac=
e.com/andredonawa" target=3D"_blank">http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa</a>=
<br>
<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspec=
tive textural aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspa=
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<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
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imgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">ww=
w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=
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> Michael I meant to write yesterday when I heard it and got  
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... a 60 seconds tail to change patches will not tax cpu heavily, sjaak?

2009/11/11 Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com>

> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
> > I love Mainstage and how it sounds, but I am getting pops and cpu spikes
> > still, which makes me mental. Maybe when I upgrade to 4 gig Macbook. :)
>
> Hi Chris,
> I use Mainstage and Mobius with a standard 2008 white Macbook with 4
> gb of memory. A few tips on how to minimize pops and cpu spikes:
> Upgrade your audio card drivers to the latest version. Also, make sure
> you use the right buffersize. This depends on how much CPU is used by
> the plugins you use. For example, the fantastic Delay Designer can be
> cpu hungry. Start with 64 and increase it to 128, 256 or 512 when the
> CPU load is too high.
>
> Before I start a live set, I always cycle thru my Mainstage patches
> twice; this way the patches are actually activated and that usually
> avoids pops or spikes when you switch patches after it. Also, make
> sure you check the preference "Silence Previous Patch" which is the
> amount of time sustained notes and effects tails continue to sound
> before falling to silence when you select a new patch. I use a setting
> of 60 seconds and that gives delays enough time to end nicely. Hope
> this helps.
> --
> Sjaak Overgaauw
> http://premonitionfactory.com/
> http://livelooping.be/
> http://euroloopfest.com/
>
>


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... a 60 seconds tail to change patches will not tax cpu heavily, sjaak?<br=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/11/11 Sjaak Overgaauw <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tcplugin@gmail.com">tcplugin@gmail.com</a>&gt;</spa=
n><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"im"=
>On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Chris Sewell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lunamu=
sic@mac.com">lunamusic@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>

&gt; I love Mainstage and how it sounds, but I am getting pops and cpu spik=
es<br>
&gt; still, which makes me mental. Maybe when I upgrade to 4 gig Macbook. :=
)<br>
<br>
</div>Hi Chris,<br>
I use Mainstage and Mobius with a standard 2008 white Macbook with 4<br>
gb of memory. A few tips on how to minimize pops and cpu spikes:<br>
Upgrade your audio card drivers to the latest version. Also, make sure<br>
you use the right buffersize. This depends on how much CPU is used by<br>
the plugins you use. For example, the fantastic Delay Designer can be<br>
cpu hungry. Start with 64 and increase it to 128, 256 or 512 when the<br>
CPU load is too high.<br>
<br>
Before I start a live set, I always cycle thru my Mainstage patches<br>
twice; this way the patches are actually activated and that usually<br>
avoids pops or spikes when you switch patches after it. Also, make<br>
sure you check the preference &quot;Silence Previous Patch&quot; which is t=
he<br>
amount of time sustained notes and effects tails continue to sound<br>
before falling to silence when you select a new patch. I use a setting<br>
of 60 seconds and that gives delays enough time to end nicely. Hope<br>
this helps.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
Sjaak Overgaauw<br>
<a href=3D"http://premonitionfactory.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://premoni=
tionfactory.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://livelooping.be/" target=3D"_blank">http://livelooping.be/=
</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://euroloopfest.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://euroloopfest.=
com/</a><br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell at B=
logger: <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://raulbonell.blogsp=
ot.com</a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href=3D"http://www.ct-collective.co=
m">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>
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60 seconds does not tax the CPU more than 5 seconds (my setting). Not
more, but longer ;-)  I do not like the way Apple has implemented this
in Mainstage. IMHO they should have done it the way you can do it if
using Bidule as the host: the software "listens" to the old patch and
mutes it when it goes silent.

I like very much to jump around between patches and play only one or
two notes with each patch sound. This works very well in Bidule
because on the shorter tail patches the old patch gets muted almost
the moment I go for a new sound - while in Mainstage every damn patch
stays open for 5 seconds even if it doesn't have a long tail. Because
of this I can't use that technique so much wiht Mainstage. Different
host applications for looping is just like having many guitars; each
one does something particularly well but no one is ultimately
universal.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



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> ... a 60 seconds tail to change patches will not tax cpu heavily, sjaak?

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So I picked up an Apogee Duet this week. It does sound really, really  
good. I did some back to back tests with my Ultralite. It has a much  
more full sound, with tighter lows and a nice warmth too it. Very  
impressive sound. Its nice to have a control panel for it right in  
Logic and Mainstage. The breakout cable doesn't bother me much,  
you're gonna have cables connected to it anyway, so it's not that big  
a deal. I miss having a midi interface built in. I would imagine the  
Duet II will include this.
The only real problem I have with it is when using it with Ableton,  
I'm getting some pretty crazy latency issues. It defaults to 512  
samples in the buffer when you first connect it, and I was  
experiencing latency of good 1/2 second. Bringing it down to 256  
didn't make a difference initially. I then have to unplug the Duet,  
then turn it back on, and restart Live for the change to kick in. It  
then improved greatly. But adding devices to a channel sometimes  
would knock back out of the setting. Although the buffer remained,  
the long lag would reappear, requiring another restart. Very weird. I  
made sure the drivers were the latest versions, but this still  
occurs. I was getting frustrated so I plugged the Ultralite back in,  
thinking I would return the Duet. I immediatly missed the sound of  
the Duet. I don't think I can go back.
Does any one have any idea why it seems so sensitive to any changes I  
make in Ableton?

Thanks
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oh well, longer. i want to mean the app will have to be processing both
patches during those 60 sec. and retaining enough ram for the two. tricky in
a live situation. specially our poor macbooks, which need lots of ram for
graphics. i commented since sjaak was advising how to save computational
resources. i'm about to see the macbook fly when using mainstage, you can
stop that fun fan! ...

2009/11/12 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

> 60 seconds does not tax the CPU more than 5 seconds (my setting). Not
> more, but longer ;-)  I do not like the way Apple has implemented this
> in Mainstage. IMHO they should have done it the way you can do it if
> using Bidule as the host: the software "listens" to the old patch and
> mutes it when it goes silent.
>
> I like very much to jump around between patches and play only one or
> two notes with each patch sound. This works very well in Bidule
> because on the shorter tail patches the old patch gets muted almost
> the moment I go for a new sound - while in Mainstage every damn patch
> stays open for 5 seconds even if it doesn't have a long tail. Because
> of this I can't use that technique so much wiht Mainstage. Different
> host applications for looping is just like having many guitars; each
> one does something particularly well but no one is ultimately
> universal.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > ... a 60 seconds tail to change patches will not tax cpu heavily, sjaak?
>
>


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oh well, longer. i want to mean the app will have to be processing both pat=
ches during those 60 sec. and retaining enough ram for the two. tricky in a=
 live situation. specially our poor macbooks, which need lots of ram for gr=
aphics. i commented since sjaak was advising how to save computational reso=
urces. i&#39;m about to see the macbook fly when using mainstage, you can s=
top that fun fan! ... <br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/11/12 Per Boysen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><b=
r><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204=
, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
60 seconds does not tax the CPU more than 5 seconds (my setting). Not<br>
more, but longer ;-) =A0I do not like the way Apple has implemented this<br=
>
in Mainstage. IMHO they should have done it the way you can do it if<br>
using Bidule as the host: the software &quot;listens&quot; to the old patch=
 and<br>
mutes it when it goes silent.<br>
<br>
I like very much to jump around between patches and play only one or<br>
two notes with each patch sound. This works very well in Bidule<br>
because on the shorter tail patches the old patch gets muted almost<br>
the moment I go for a new sound - while in Mainstage every damn patch<br>
stays open for 5 seconds even if it doesn&#39;t have a long tail. Because<b=
r>
of this I can&#39;t use that technique so much wiht Mainstage. Different<br=
>
host applications for looping is just like having many guitars; each<br>
one does something particularly well but no one is ultimately<br>
universal.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
Greetings from Sweden<br>
<br>
Per Boysen<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se" target=3D"_blank">www.boysen.se</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com" target=3D"_blank">www.perboysen.com</a=
><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:33 AM, R=
aul Bonell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:raul.bonell@gmail.com">raul.bonell@gmail.c=
om</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; ... a 60 seconds tail to change patches will not tax cpu heavily, sjaa=
k?<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell=
 at Blogger: <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://raulbonell.b=
logspot.com</a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href=3D"http://www.ct-collecti=
ve.com">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>
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Hi Buzap,
I didn't pay too much attention to your e.mail..., I was talking about =20=

the iPhone app that's named iGog.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Fabio

Il giorno 11/nov/2009, alle ore 14.58, "Buzap Buzap" <buzap@gmx.net> =20
ha scritto:

> Hi Fabio
>
>> It also seems to have a limited memory, so sometimes you can't load
>> samples for each pad.
>> For what it costs it's a lot of fun.
>
> For 200-380$ ?
> It'd better be really good...
>
> best regards
> Buzap
> --=20
> GRATIS f=C3=BCr alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT!
> Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01
>

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   Very nice, this does feel very relaxing and meditative, 
 Soundtrack for "Loopers Delight" "The Movie"???? Yeah let's do it!!!
Perhaps this would work for the "love scene" which incidentally, I'm hoping
to get the part of the male lead, not that I'm lobbying for the role or
anything.......but if I do get the part, I will definitely suggest this for
the love scene, which will be when the male lead (me hopefully, fingers
crossed), wins the Lottery, goes in to the best music store in the world,
buys every instrument and gizmo in the world he's ever wanted and multiples
for his friends (this scene is in slow motion),afterwards, he buys his
lovely wife a new car, perhaps a Honda fit, buys two round the world airline
tickets, better yet, charters a private jet, and sets off around the
continent and the world to visit and play with his looping pals and
distribute the afore mentioned gear. It's a feel good Movie the whole family
can enjoy.
 Bill


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I was having this troubling post-prog-improv nightmare, wondering how Van
Der Graff became obscenely coupled with both Subotnik and Hatfield=97and
couldn't close my eyes, seeing strange objects floating, morhping then
disappearing before me. Then I realized I was awake and had drifted of whil=
e
watching NW Austin's new video collaboration with The Lunar Asylum . . . I
can't honestly say there's a looper actually in play mode in this track, bu=
t
there usually IS. I can barely tell who's playing what . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsrpQnfC3ktQ

Peace
--=20
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I was having this troubling post-prog-improv nightmare, wondering how Van D=
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ldn&#39;t close my eyes, seeing strange objects floating, morhping then dis=
appearing before me. Then I realized I was awake and had drifted of while w=
atching NW Austin&#39;s new video collaboration with The Lunar Asylum . . .=
 I can&#39;t honestly say there&#39;s a looper actually in play mode in thi=
s track, but there usually IS. I can barely tell who&#39;s playing what . .=
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You are doing really cool things with guitar synth Michael, and synth sound
design. Love the vocal-guitar sound   I enjoyed this.

Bill

 

  _____  

From: Michael Peters [mailto:mp@mpeters.de] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 2:56 AM
To: Loopers Delight
Subject: two chords after midnight

 

two evenings ago I played a little guitar before going to bed. This is one
of the takes, a quiet improv over two chords, with the midified guitar also
triggering voice samples. Enjoy
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synth Michael, and synth sound design. Love the vocal-guitar sound&nbsp; =
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enjoyed this.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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Michael Peters
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10, 2009
2:56 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Loopers Delight<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> two chords after =
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of the
takes, a quiet improv over two chords, with the midified guitar also =
triggering
voice samples. Enjoy<br>
<a
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<a =
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 > i hope these vids inspire you all

Absolutely fabulous.  Mission accomplished.

    ...Tim... 

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> What do you use to get from your guitar to the audio interface?

you know that I use the small Edirol UA-1EX audio interface ... you mean,
which kind of cable I use?

-Michael



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hi Chris,
I'd guess that the Duet is aimed at the recording studio
rather than live playing.
Ignoring the buffer size of 512, I've heard that within AD/DA
converters higher latency goes with higher quality, and indeed
this appears to be the case with some of my gear.

As to the 512 sample thing, it's most likely a driver issue
that hasn't been fixed because no-one complained to Apogee yet.
I had a similar problem, although it was with a Focusrite interface
on a pc, and the latest drivers fixed it right away.

 

There's also the possibility this may be a mac thing, a couple of
years ago I found out from a guy who does the drivert software for
one of the larger audio hardware companies that Macs always use
something called SRC( sample rate conversion) on the audio. 
This innovation was, afaik, brought
in to facilitate the 'solving' of clock sync problems with multiple devices,
...by simply avoiding the need.
Anyway, with SRC there's always a compromise between quality and latency,
the calculations are rather intensive more processor power is needed as
quality goes up. As with the Duet it's quality that's of ultimate importance
I wonder if they simply maxed out on the SRC calculations.

andy butler




Chris Sewell wrote:
> So I picked up an Apogee Duet this week. It does sound really, really 

> The only real problem I have with it is when using it with Ableton, I'm 
> getting some pretty crazy latency issues. It defaults to 512 samples in 
> the buffer when you first connect it, and I was experiencing latency of 
> good 1/2 second. Bringing it down to 256 didn't make a difference 
> initially. I then have to unplug the Duet, then turn it back on, and 
> restart Live for the change to kick in. It then improved greatly. But 
> adding devices to a channel sometimes would knock back out of the 
> setting. Although the buffer remained, the long lag would reappear, 
> requiring another restart. Very weird. I made sure the drivers were the 
> latest versions, but this still occurs. 

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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> oh well, longer. i want to mean the app will have to be processing both
> patches during those 60 sec. and retaining enough ram for the two.

Not an issue. Mainstage actually pre allocates RAM for all patches
within a concert when you load the concert. If your machine doesn't
have enough RAM a concert with too many patches would simply not
launch.
'
I tried that personally and my 4 GB RAM Macbook started quitting
concerts on launch at a bit above 60 patches. But then I had at least
five or six plug-ins in each patch and quite a lot of sampler
instruments containing long audio files; one sample for each note in a
three octave range and then a second layer that doubles up the load.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Yes I use the same interface based on your recommendation, but since it
only has RCA connections I have to go from my guitar into the mixing
board, and then into the interface.

Do you go straight from your guitar into the interface with some special
cable i.e. a 1/4" male to an RCA male, or are you also using a board? From
what I can remember most of your live mixing was done on the lapee with
the korg usb controller.

Andre


On Thu, November 12, 2009 4:16 am, Michael Peters wrote:
>> What do you use to get from your guitar to the audio interface?
>
> you know that I use the small Edirol UA-1EX audio interface ... you mean,
> which kind of cable I use?
>
> -Michael
>
>
>
>


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Which version of Ableton are you using? I've been running so far at  
128 without problems. (Knock on wood) Again I'm using a Macbook white  
(early 2009) with 4 gig ram. Are you using a similar computer? Maybe  
try turning off airport? Although I just ran a few tests in Ableton  
using looper with some of Abletons soft synths and didn't have any  
problems. Something sounds fishy with you having to unplug the Duet to  
have changes take effect. I can change the buffer setting by typing in  
256, 512, 128 and the changes take effect immediately. Let me know if  
I can help troubleshoot since I'm a new Duet user as well.


Todd


On Nov 11, 2009, at 7:11 PM, Chris Sewell wrote:

> So I picked up an Apogee Duet this week. It does sound really,  
> really good. I did some back to back tests with my Ultralite. It has  
> a much more full sound, with tighter lows and a nice warmth too it.  
> Very impressive sound. Its nice to have a control panel for it right  
> in Logic and Mainstage. The breakout cable doesn't bother me much,  
> you're gonna have cables connected to it anyway, so it's not that  
> big a deal. I miss having a midi interface built in. I would imagine  
> the Duet II will include this.
> The only real problem I have with it is when using it with Ableton,  
> I'm getting some pretty crazy latency issues. It defaults to 512  
> samples in the buffer when you first connect it, and I was  
> experiencing latency of good 1/2 second. Bringing it down to 256  
> didn't make a difference initially. I then have to unplug the Duet,  
> then turn it back on, and restart Live for the change to kick in. It  
> then improved greatly. But adding devices to a channel sometimes  
> would knock back out of the setting. Although the buffer remained,  
> the long lag would reappear, requiring another restart. Very weird.  
> I made sure the drivers were the latest versions, but this still  
> occurs. I was getting frustrated so I plugged the Ultralite back in,  
> thinking I would return the Duet. I immediatly missed the sound of  
> the Duet. I don't think I can go back.
> Does any one have any idea why it seems so sensitive to any changes  
> I make in Ableton?
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>

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I think I found the culprit. I'm pretty sure it is Trilian. I took it  
out and all is well. That thing is a memory behemoth. Thanks for the  
advice. The Duet sounds amazing.


Chris


On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:04 PM, Todd Matthews wrote:

> Which version of Ableton are you using? I've been running so far at  
> 128 without problems. (Knock on wood) Again I'm using a Macbook  
> white (early 2009) with 4 gig ram. Are you using a similar  
> computer? Maybe try turning off airport? Although I just ran a few  
> tests in Ableton using looper with some of Abletons soft synths and  
> didn't have any problems. Something sounds fishy with you having to  
> unplug the Duet to have changes take effect. I can change the  
> buffer setting by typing in 256, 512, 128 and the changes take  
> effect immediately. Let me know if I can help troubleshoot since  
> I'm a new Duet user as well.
>
>
> Todd
>
>
> On Nov 11, 2009, at 7:11 PM, Chris Sewell wrote:
>
>> So I picked up an Apogee Duet this week. It does sound really,  
>> really good. I did some back to back tests with my Ultralite. It  
>> has a much more full sound, with tighter lows and a nice warmth  
>> too it. Very impressive sound. Its nice to have a control panel  
>> for it right in Logic and Mainstage. The breakout cable doesn't  
>> bother me much, you're gonna have cables connected to it anyway,  
>> so it's not that big a deal. I miss having a midi interface built  
>> in. I would imagine the Duet II will include this.
>> The only real problem I have with it is when using it with  
>> Ableton, I'm getting some pretty crazy latency issues. It defaults  
>> to 512 samples in the buffer when you first connect it, and I was  
>> experiencing latency of good 1/2 second. Bringing it down to 256  
>> didn't make a difference initially. I then have to unplug the  
>> Duet, then turn it back on, and restart Live for the change to  
>> kick in. It then improved greatly. But adding devices to a channel  
>> sometimes would knock back out of the setting. Although the buffer  
>> remained, the long lag would reappear, requiring another restart.  
>> Very weird. I made sure the drivers were the latest versions, but  
>> this still occurs. I was getting frustrated so I plugged the  
>> Ultralite back in, thinking I would return the Duet. I immediatly  
>> missed the sound of the Duet. I don't think I can go back.
>> Does any one have any idea why it seems so sensitive to any  
>> changes I make in Ableton?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Chris
>>
>

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I'm setting up a video teaching studio at my home
and was told that software exists that allows one to
project your computer screen in real time to
someone on video chat.

What I want to do is to be  able to switch between a
video cam on me (or a remote camera)  and
real time movies of my computer screen.

does this exist?

Does anyone have any experience doing this?

I'd be greatly in your debt to know what you all know.

Thanks for bearing with this offtopic post,   but I'm going to be
offering live looping,   rhythm intensive,  computer sound design
and arrangement/composition/improvisation/creativity lessons
so it might actually be ON topic if I can get it going, soon.

yours,   Rick Walker

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Many video chat clients let you do this. Maybe start to read up on
Skype? (just a guess)

Camtasia has been recommended for creating software tutorial videos
where you render a video while switching between or mixing your nice
face with whatever is going on on your local screen.
http://www.techsmith.com/learn/

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
> I'm setting up a video teaching studio at my home
> and was told that software exists that allows one to
> project your computer screen in real time to
> someone on video chat.
>
> What I want to do is to be =C2=A0able to switch between a
> video cam on me (or a remote camera) =C2=A0and
> real time movies of my computer screen.
>
> does this exist?
>
> Does anyone have any experience doing this?
>
> I'd be greatly in your debt to know what you all know.
>
> Thanks for bearing with this offtopic post, =C2=A0 but I'm going to be
> offering live looping, =C2=A0 rhythm intensive, =C2=A0computer sound desi=
gn
> and arrangement/composition/improvisation/creativity lessons
> so it might actually be ON topic if I can get it going, soon.
>
> yours, =C2=A0 Rick Walker
>
>

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sounds like iChat to me.


os.


2009/11/13 Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>:
> I'm setting up a video teaching studio at my home
> and was told that software exists that allows one to
> project your computer screen in real time to
> someone on video chat.
>
> What I want to do is to be =A0able to switch between a
> video cam on me (or a remote camera) =A0and
> real time movies of my computer screen.
>
> does this exist?
>
> Does anyone have any experience doing this?
>
> I'd be greatly in your debt to know what you all know.
>
> Thanks for bearing with this offtopic post, =A0 but I'm going to be
> offering live looping, =A0 rhythm intensive, =A0computer sound design
> and arrangement/composition/improvisation/creativity lessons
> so it might actually be ON topic if I can get it going, soon.
>
> yours, =A0 Rick Walker
>
>



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I use iChat or Adobe Live Connect Now...

Weirdly I cant find out how to launch Live Connect, or is it Live Meetein (I
think thats the Mircrosofts version) aprat from a rather lumpy route..
that is, launch Adobe Reader, and somewhere there is a menu item to share
via Adobe Connect... works very well..

BUT.. I use iChat most of the time... the only thing about that is when you
switch from video to screen you lose the video window.. BUT you can still
HEAR.. oh.. and theres another issue.. they can use you mouse!! ha ha!! for
some things its OK.. but to be honest Ive been looking for something
simerlar myself... for a new company Ive formed with a guy from Japan. Our
Sunday meetings are hilarious... 45 minutes faffling with fucking screen
sharing options and 15 mins business...

My research has NOT been able to turn up EXACTLY what you/we want... but
close and useable...

Mark

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> I'm setting up a video teaching studio at my home
> and was told that software exists that allows one to
> project your computer screen in real time to
> someone on video chat.
>
> What I want to do is to be  able to switch between a
> video cam on me (or a remote camera)  and
> real time movies of my computer screen.
>
> does this exist?
>
> Does anyone have any experience doing this?
>
> I'd be greatly in your debt to know what you all know.
>
> Thanks for bearing with this offtopic post,   but I'm going to be
> offering live looping,   rhythm intensive,  computer sound design
> and arrangement/composition/improvisation/creativity lessons
> so it might actually be ON topic if I can get it going, soon.
>
> yours,   Rick Walker
>
>


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I use iChat or Adobe Live Connect Now... <br><br>Weirdly I cant find out ho=
w to launch Live Connect, or is it Live Meetein (I think thats the Mircroso=
fts version) aprat from a rather lumpy route..<br>that is, launch Adobe Rea=
der, and somewhere there is a menu item to share via Adobe Connect... works=
 very well..<br>

<br>BUT.. I use iChat most of the time... the only thing about that is when=
 you switch from video to screen you lose the video window.. BUT you can st=
ill HEAR.. oh.. and theres another issue.. they can use you mouse!! ha ha!!=
 for some things its OK.. but to be honest Ive been looking for something s=
imerlar myself... for a new company Ive formed with a guy from Japan. Our S=
unday meetings are hilarious... 45 minutes faffling with fucking screen sha=
ring options and 15 mins business...<br>

<br>My research has NOT been able to turn up EXACTLY what you/we want... bu=
t close and useable...<br><br>Mark<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri=
, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Rick Walker <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:looppool@cruzio.com">looppool@cruzio.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I&#39;m setting u=
p a video teaching studio at my home<br>
and was told that software exists that allows one to<br>
project your computer screen in real time to<br>
someone on video chat.<br>
<br>
What I want to do is to be =A0able to switch between a<br>
video cam on me (or a remote camera) =A0and<br>
real time movies of my computer screen.<br>
<br>
does this exist?<br>
<br>
Does anyone have any experience doing this?<br>
<br>
I&#39;d be greatly in your debt to know what you all know.<br>
<br>
Thanks for bearing with this offtopic post, =A0 but I&#39;m going to be<br>
offering live looping, =A0 rhythm intensive, =A0computer sound design<br>
and arrangement/composition/improvisation/creativity lessons<br>
so it might actually be ON topic if I can get it going, soon.<br>
<br>
yours, =A0 Rick Walker<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://www.m=
arkfrancombe.com">www.markfrancombe.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/=
user825094">http://vimeo.com/user825094</a><br><a href=3D"http://uk.youtube=
.com/user/markfrancombe">http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe</a><br>

<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe">http://www.myspace.com/mar=
kfrancombe</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSync=
h%20Non%20Synch">http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy=
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Hi everyone,

again, an even calendar week - so tomorrow's the time for the
MoinSound Studio Sessions.

Tune in at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions
for roughly one hour of trombone and mouth noises and looping galore.
Time/Date: Saturday November 14th, 1700 UTC: http://fwd4.me/4Ck

As a sidenote, look forward to a "MoinSound Studio Sessions"
compilation album released (under cc license) this year!

Looking forward to virtually see you,

           Rainer

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Greetings Loopists,

I'll be doing another in my ongoing series of live broadcasts on Ustream.tv 
tomorrow. It's at 5:30pm Uk time. Internationl times here: 
http://bit.ly/4BsKVB

To watch/listen go to:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain

It would be great to see some of you there.

Also looking forward to watching Rainer's Ustream set this afternoon at
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/The-MoinSound-Studio-Sessions

and an unexpected treat, a live broadcast from Chinapainting, which starts 
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Folks this is last minute planning but I'm pleased to announce that *
Chinapainting* <http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com> will be doing a
special Sunday
Morning at 11 <http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11> live
uStream tomorrow (Sunday 11-15) beginning at 11:45am EST (15:45 UTC or is it
UCT(?)) and going to 12:30pm leading into Steve Moyes Soundings from Behind
the Net Curtain<http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain>series.

The Sunday Morning at 11 URL is
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11.

Due to other scheduling needs my Sunday morning series has been rather
erratic with a show here and there the last few months.  I hope to get back
to a bi-weekly continuity this winter.  If you are around (and awake)
tomorrow morning please join us at 11:45 EST/15:45 UTC and Mr Moyes at 12:30
EST/21:30 UTC.

Happy Saturday to all.

Jim


-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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Folks this is last minute planning but I&#39;m pleased to announce that <a =
href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com"><b>Chinapainting</b></a> will be=
 doing a special <a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at=
-11">Sunday Morning at 11</a> live uStream tomorrow (Sunday 11-15) beginnin=
g at 11:45am EST (15:45 UTC or is it UCT(?)) and going to 12:30pm leading i=
nto Steve Moyes <a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Beh=
ind-The-Net-Curtain">Soundings from Behind the Net Curtain</a> series.<br>
<br>The Sunday Morning at 11 URL is <a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channe=
l/sunday-morning-at-11">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11<=
/a>.<br><br>Due to other scheduling needs my Sunday morning series has been=
 rather erratic with a show here and there the last few months.=A0 I hope t=
o get back to a bi-weekly continuity this winter.=A0 If you are around (and=
 awake) tomorrow morning please join us at 11:45 EST/15:45 UTC and Mr Moyes=
 at 12:30 EST/21:30 UTC.<br>
<br>Happy Saturday to all.<br><br>Jim<br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse=
, an introspective textural aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtRe=
Use">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http:/=
/www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
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Wow... just watched this video of our musical ancestry; rich, and 
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Couldn't help but think you all might appreciate. : )

Enjoy,
C

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Wonderful stuff. I've watched them both 20 times each and have
recommended the videos to others. I notice that "How you waste it" is
down now. "The Sermon" is my favorite, but both were wonderful. Thanks
Fro!

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Tim Thompson <tjt@nosuch.com> wrote:
> =A0> i hope these vids inspire you all
>
> Absolutely fabulous. =A0Mission accomplished.
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> =A0 =A0...Tim...
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Great Vid!
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Wow... just watched this video of our musical ancestry; rich, and 
absolutely delightful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YA_RINQySU

Couldn't help but think you all might appreciate. : )

Enjoy,
C

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Don't be alarmed! It's still right here on YouTube . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brZp4tMcsmA

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wonderful stuff. I've watched them both 20 times each and have
> recommended the videos to others. I notice that "How you waste it" is
> down now. "The Sermon" is my favorite, but both were wonderful. Thanks Fro!
>
> --
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Don&#39;t be alarmed! It&#39;s still right here on YouTube . . . <br><br><a=
 href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA</a><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Art Simon <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:simart@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">simart@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Wonderful stuff. =
I&#39;ve watched them both 20 times each and have<br>
recommended the videos to others. I notice that &quot;How you waste it&quot=
; is<br>
down now. &quot;The Sermon&quot; is my favorite, but both were wonderful. T=
hanks Fro!<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br></font></blockquote></div>-- <br>Mikko Biffle<b=
r>Biffoz@Gmail.com<br><a href=3D"http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz</a><br>&quot;Running scared =
from all the usual distractions!&quot;<br>



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> I was talking about  
> the iPhone app that's named iGog.

ok, that probably doesn't sell for 380,-USD then ;-)

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I like it! :)

Storytelling is imo an important part of music anyway.

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From: Dr. Usman Wood
#31 Council of Churches
P O Box 62098 Marshalltown
2107 United Kingdom

=20
RE-TRANSFER OF =A352,954,000.00 {Fifty Two Million Nine Hundred And Fifty F=
our Thousand British Pounds Sterling}
=20
                                            Good day.
=20
I am aware that this is certainly an unconventional approach to starting a =
relationship. I am Dr. Usman Wood, the personal account officer to the grea=
t late deseased who has an account in one of the top banks here in London, =
United Kingdom. The account was opened in 2002 and he died in 2004 without =
a written or oral WILL and since 2004 nobody has operated on this account a=
gain hence the money is floating, and if I do not remit this money out urge=
ntly it will be forfeited for nothing, and Government of United Kingdom wil=
l confiscate
the funds for their personal use which I personally don't want such inciden=
t to happen being that this is a great opportunity in my life.
=20
My contact is for you to please assist me to transfer the fund {=A352,954,0=
00.00} from a Cooperate Bank here in UK to an oversea account. First, I mus=
t solicit your strictest confidence in this transaction. This is by virtue =
of its nature as being utterly confidential. I am sure and have confidence =
of your ability and reliability to prosecute a transaction of
this great magnitude. I solicit your assistance to enable us transfer the s=
aid amount into your safe account for onward investment.
=20
You can either provide us with an existing account or to set up a new Bank =
account immediately to receive this money, even an empty a/c can serve to r=
eceive this money, as long as you will remain honest to me till the end of =
this important business, trusting in
you and believing in God that you will never let me down in future because =
this business is my life. The owner of this account is a foreigner and no o=
ther person knows about this account or anything  oncerning it, the account=
 has no other beneficiary and until his
death he was the manager of the company. My investigation through the Natio=
nal immigration department and Ministries here proved to me as well that he=
 was single as at the time of his entry into the United Kingdom. As a matte=
r of fact, I have decided to transfer this fund abroad for investment.
=20
Your assistance as a foreigner is necessary because the management of the b=
ank will welcome any foreigner who has correct information to this account =
which I will give to you immediately, We will start the first transfer with=
 Thirty Two Million {=A332,000,000.00}.
=20
Upon successful transfer without any disappointment from your side, we shal=
l re-apply for the payment of the remaining balance of {=A320, 954,000.00} =
to your account. I am only contacting you as a foreigner because this money=
 cannot be approved to a local person here due to law in United Kingdom.=20
=20
Be it known that at the conclusion of this business, your share will be 40%=
 of the total transfer sum, while 60% will be for me and my partners here w=
ho are helping me in facilitating the transfer. =20
=20
If you are interested, please forward the following information as below:
=20
{1} Your Name/company's name and full address,
{2} Bank Name:............ ..........
{3} Bank Address.....................
{4} Account No:......................
{5} Swift Code...{if any}
{6} Account Holder's Name: ....................
{7} Your telephone Number.both Home, Office &
Cell/Mobile and fax Numbers.........................
{8} Your Occupation..............
{9} Your Valid ID ...................
=20
Upon the receipt of the above details, payment will be activated by the fee=
ding of your data into payment system, followed by a signal that will be se=
nt to the paying bank to remit the funds into your nominated bank account w=
ithin 7 official working days of receipt of the above information.

Best Regards,
Dr. Usman Wood.

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From: Dr. Usman Wood
#31 Council of Churches
P O Box 62098 Marshalltown
2107 United Kingdom

=20
RE-TRANSFER OF =A352,954,000.00 {Fifty Two Million Nine Hundred And Fifty F=
our Thousand British Pounds Sterling}
=20
                                            Good day.
=20
I am aware that this is certainly an unconventional approach to starting a =
relationship. I am Dr. Usman Wood, the personal account officer to the grea=
t late deseased who has an account in one of the top banks here in London, =
United Kingdom. The account was opened in 2002 and he died in 2004 without =
a written or oral WILL and since 2004 nobody has operated on this account a=
gain hence the money is floating, and if I do not remit this money out urge=
ntly it will be forfeited for nothing, and Government of United Kingdom wil=
l confiscate
the funds for their personal use which I personally don't want such inciden=
t to happen being that this is a great opportunity in my life.
=20
My contact is for you to please assist me to transfer the fund {=A352,954,0=
00.00} from a Cooperate Bank here in UK to an oversea account. First, I mus=
t solicit your strictest confidence in this transaction. This is by virtue =
of its nature as being utterly confidential. I am sure and have confidence =
of your ability and reliability to prosecute a transaction of
this great magnitude. I solicit your assistance to enable us transfer the s=
aid amount into your safe account for onward investment.
=20
You can either provide us with an existing account or to set up a new Bank =
account immediately to receive this money, even an empty a/c can serve to r=
eceive this money, as long as you will remain honest to me till the end of =
this important business, trusting in
you and believing in God that you will never let me down in future because =
this business is my life. The owner of this account is a foreigner and no o=
ther person knows about this account or anything  oncerning it, the account=
 has no other beneficiary and until his
death he was the manager of the company. My investigation through the Natio=
nal immigration department and Ministries here proved to me as well that he=
 was single as at the time of his entry into the United Kingdom. As a matte=
r of fact, I have decided to transfer this fund abroad for investment.
=20
Your assistance as a foreigner is necessary because the management of the b=
ank will welcome any foreigner who has correct information to this account =
which I will give to you immediately, We will start the first transfer with=
 Thirty Two Million {=A332,000,000.00}.
=20
Upon successful transfer without any disappointment from your side, we shal=
l re-apply for the payment of the remaining balance of {=A320, 954,000.00} =
to your account. I am only contacting you as a foreigner because this money=
 cannot be approved to a local person here due to law in United Kingdom.=20
=20
Be it known that at the conclusion of this business, your share will be 40%=
 of the total transfer sum, while 60% will be for me and my partners here w=
ho are helping me in facilitating the transfer. =20
=20
If you are interested, please forward the following information as below:
=20
{1} Your Name/company's name and full address,
{2} Bank Name:............ ..........
{3} Bank Address.....................
{4} Account No:......................
{5} Swift Code...{if any}
{6} Account Holder's Name: ....................
{7} Your telephone Number.both Home, Office &
Cell/Mobile and fax Numbers.........................
{8} Your Occupation..............
{9} Your Valid ID ...................
=20
Upon the receipt of the above details, payment will be activated by the fee=
ding of your data into payment system, followed by a signal that will be se=
nt to the paying bank to remit the funds into your nominated bank account w=
ithin 7 official working days of receipt of the above information.

Best Regards,
Dr. Usman Wood.

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> Folks this is last minute planning but I'm pleased to announce that Chinapainting will be doing a special Sunday Morning at 11 live uStream tomorrow (Sunday 11-15) beginning at 11:45am EST
> (15:45 UTC or is it UCT(?)) and goingto 12:30pm leading into Steve Moyes Soundings from Behind the Net Curtain series.

Jim,

sorry to chime in here, but according to e.g. timeanddate.com
(http://fwd4.me/4PP), 11:45 New York (EST) corresponds to 16:45 UTC
(during winter equal to GB time), not as you said 15:45.
Btw, this is also what Stephen Moyes told me.

Yours,

               Rainer

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Rainer thanks for the correction but I thought 1700 was 1pm EST, hence 1600
would be noon, hence 1545 for 11:45 EST no?  Let me do it this way...

*Chinapainting live this AM on uStream.tv Sunday Morning at 11
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11  Please note due to
scheduling need my series is starting 45 min later than usual, times and
zones are next.

8:45 am PST, 9:45 am MST, 10:45 am CST, **11:45 am EST, 4:45 pm UK, 5:45 pm
Continental Europe, 12:45 am Japan.

In that I'm confused re UTC please double check me at
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock for times in your area.

Thanks and pleas join us should you be about.
*
J

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Rainer Straschill <
moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:

> > Folks this is last minute planning but I'm pleased to announce that
> Chinapainting will be doing a special Sunday Morning at 11 live uStream
> tomorrow (Sunday 11-15) beginning at 11:45am EST
> > (15:45 UTC or is it UCT(?)) and goingto 12:30pm leading into Steve Moyes
> Soundings from Behind the Net Curtain series.
>
> Jim,
>
> sorry to chime in here, but according to e.g. timeanddate.com
> (http://fwd4.me/4PP), 11:45 New York (EST) corresponds to 16:45 UTC
> (during winter equal to GB time), not as you said 15:45.
> Btw, this is also what Stephen Moyes told me.
>
> Yours,
>
>               Rainer
>
>


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Rainer thanks for the correction but I thought 1700 was 1pm EST, hence 1600=
 would be noon, hence 1545 for 11:45 EST no?=A0 Let me do it this way...<br=
><br><b>Chinapainting live this AM on uStream.tv Sunday Morning at 11 <a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11">http://www.ustrea=
m.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11</a>=A0 Please note due to scheduling need=
 my series is starting 45 min later than usual, times and zones are next.<b=
r>
<br>8:45 am PST, 9:45 am MST, 10:45 am CST, </b><b>11:45 am EST, 4:45 pm UK=
, 5:45 pm Continental Europe, 12:45 am Japan.<br><br>In that I&#39;m confus=
ed re UTC please double check me at <a href=3D"http://www.timeanddate.com/w=
orldclock">http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock</a> for times in your area=
.<br>
<br>Thanks and pleas join us should you be about.<br></b><br>J<br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Rainer Straschill <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com">moinsound@=
googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">&gt; Folks this i=
s last minute planning but I&#39;m pleased to announce that Chinapainting w=
ill be doing a special Sunday Morning at 11 live uStream tomorrow (Sunday 1=
1-15) beginning at 11:45am EST<br>

&gt; (15:45 UTC or is it UCT(?)) and goingto 12:30pm leading into Steve Moy=
es Soundings from Behind the Net Curtain series.<br>
<br>
Jim,<br>
<br>
sorry to chime in here, but according to e.g. <a href=3D"http://timeanddate=
.com" target=3D"_blank">timeanddate.com</a><br>
(<a href=3D"http://fwd4.me/4PP" target=3D"_blank">http://fwd4.me/4PP</a>), =
11:45 New York (EST) corresponds to 16:45 UTC<br>
(during winter equal to GB time), not as you said 15:45.<br>
Btw, this is also what Stephen Moyes told me.<br>
<br>
Yours,<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer<br>
<br>
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I've got a line on a Boss DD-3 and an Electro-Harmonix #1 Echo.

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I paid 198 USD for Drumagog Pro.

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On Nov 15, 2009, at 2:21 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote:

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>> I was talking about
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Hi folks,

I recently uploaded Car Lights a new photo essay on Flickr -- it can 
be seen at 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157622805556082/

I'm also working up some video/animation material based on these and 
similar images. If any composers or improvisors out there would be 
interested in creating a 5 - 8 minute piece for such a video, please 
get in touch

Further notes on the photo essay are below. Thanks for looking.

I've always been fascinated by the photographic possibilities 
inherent in reflections, transmitted light, and refracted light. I've 
been taking a lot of photos recently of closeups of car headlights 
and taillights, which combine all three.

Car Lights consists of a sequence of these pictures, with the 
original photos interspersed with images treated with various 
Photoshop filters.

The 'Doctor' in Doctor T comes from my Ph. D. in physics. A friend of 
mine used to say that I took 'physicist's pictures'. I don't think 
about the physics when I take images like these, but they can 
reasonably be described as physicist's pictures'.

-- 
" Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better."  -- Paul Bley

		Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D.
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From: Steve Uccello <stevebassbird@yahoo.com>
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Hello fellow loopers, Steve Uccello here sending out a message to you all t=
o say hi, introduce myself, and let you know about an upcoming looping show=
. I am new to Looper's Delight and look forward to my subscription!
-Uccello Project, live full length show
-Time: Saturday, December 12th, 2009 =A0- 7:30 pm
-Place: House Concert In Seaside, CA (USA)
-contact: email stevebassbird@yahoo.com=A0
-or call 831-801-4920 for details=09=A0-details: Price: $12 (includes show/=
drinks/snacks!)=A0
Background: =A0I just performed at the Y2K9 International Live Looping Fest=
ival, and I have also shared the stage with loopers such as Joe Craven and =
Steve Lawson. This will be the first full length show by Uccello Project an=
d will feature me on Upright/Dobro Basses, and Acoustic Guitar. -There will=
 also be a few special guests sitting in!
Also, I invite you to visit my blog and hear my new record, Symmetria, in i=
t's entirety, Free:
http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/=A0
...here's a couple blurbs about it:
Symmetria by the Uccello Project is a gorgeous, instrumental and largely un=
classifiable record. Best thought of as 'cinematic', each of the tracks con=
jures up a range of emotions and images, taking the listener on a beautiful=
 journey. The layers of basses, guitars and percussion ebb and flow, drawin=
g on jazz, folk, blues and African music, blending all the elements into on=
e lovely album. Recommended.Steve Lawson (Aug 18, 2009)
I just received the first Uccello Project CD, 'Symmetria' in the mail today=
. =A0I was really taken by the track 'Chiral' and by the records intriguing=
 blend=A0of acoustic and electric guitars and bass guitars, guitarron, mand=
olin, gongs, hand drums,=A0drumset, harp and flutes all played by talented =
multi-instrumentalist, live looper,=A0Steve Uccello. The record has beautif=
ul ambient passages, composed tunes=A0and even veers into experimnental and=
 almost dark ambient territory. =A0A very=A0impressive first effort. =A0I l=
ook forward to hearing what this talented musician=A0has to play at =A0the =
Y2K9 looping festival for the first time this year.Rick Walker, composer/lo=
 fi, toy video artist/found sound/live looper, Founder: Y2K International L=
ive Looping Festivals (Aug 28, 2009)

Thanks for your time, and i've been enjoying reading all the post on this l=
ist so far!=0A=0A=0A      
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top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><div>Hello fellow loopers, Steve Uccello here=
 sending out a message to you all to say hi, introduce myself, and let you =
know about an upcoming looping show. I am new to Looper's Delight and look =
forward to my subscription!</div><div><br></div><div>-Uccello Project, live=
 full length show</div><div><br></div><div>-Time: Saturday, December 12th, =
2009 &nbsp;- 7:30 pm</div><div><br></div><div>-Place: House Concert In Seas=
ide, CA (USA)</div><div><br></div><div>-contact: email stevebassbird@yahoo.=
com&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>-or call 831-801-4920 for details</div><=
div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space: pre; ">=09</span>&=
nbsp;</div><div>-details: Price: $12 (includes show/drinks/snacks!)&nbsp;</=
div><div><br></div><div>Background: &nbsp;I just performed at the Y2K9 Inte=
rnational Live Looping Festival, and I have also shared the stage with loop=
ers such
 as Joe Craven and Steve Lawson. This will be the first full length show by=
 Uccello Project and will feature me on Upright/Dobro Basses, and Acoustic =
Guitar. -There will also be a few special guests sitting in!</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Also, I invite you to visit my blog and hear my new record, Symm=
etria, in it's entirety, Free:</div><div><br></div><div>http://www.uccellop=
rojects.blogspot.com/&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>...here's a couple blu=
rbs about it:</div><div><br></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" sty=
le=3D"font-family: 'normal Verdana', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-siz=
e: 11px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 15px; "><blockquote style=3D"=
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adding-bottom: 15px; padding-left: 10px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px=
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 margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: mcei=
nline; ">Symmetria by the Uccello Project is a gorgeous, instrumental and l=
argely unclassifiable record. Best thought of as 'cinematic', each of the t=
racks conjures up a range of emotions and images, taking the listener on a =
beautiful journey. The layers of basses, guitars and percussion ebb and flo=
w, drawing on jazz, folk, blues and African music, blending all the element=
s into one lovely album. Recommended.</span></p></blockquote><div class=3D"=
caption" style=3D"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px=
; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 40px; margin-bottom: 0p=
x; margin-left: 40px; font-weight: bold; ">Steve Lawson (Aug 18, 2009)</div=
><div class=3D"caption" style=3D"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px;
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n-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 40px; font-weight: bold; "><span class=3D"Apple=
-style-span" style=3D"font-weight: normal; font-style: italic; ">I just rec=
eived the first Uccello Project CD, 'Symmetria' in the mail today. &nbsp;I =
was really taken by the track 'Chiral' and by the records intriguing blend&=
nbsp;of acoustic and electric guitars and bass guitars, guitarron, mandolin=
, gongs, hand drums,&nbsp;drumset, harp and flutes all played by talented m=
ulti-instrumentalist, live looper,&nbsp;Steve Uccello. The record has beaut=
iful ambient passages, composed tunes&nbsp;and even veers into experimnenta=
l and almost dark ambient territory. &nbsp;A very&nbsp;impressive first
 effort. &nbsp;I look forward to hearing what this talented musician&nbsp;h=
as to play at &nbsp;the Y2K9 looping festival for the first time this year.=
</span></div><div class=3D"caption" style=3D"padding-top: 0px; padding-righ=
t: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-rig=
ht: 40px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 40px; font-weight: bold; "><span=
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aption" style=3D"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px;=
 padding-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 40px; margin-bottom: 0px=
; margin-left: 40px; font-weight: bold; ">Rick Walker, composer/lo fi, toy =
video artist/found sound/live looper, Founder: Y2K International Live Loopi=
ng Festivals (Aug 28, 2009)</div></span></div></span></div><div><br></div><=
div><br></div><div>Thanks for your time, and i've been enjoying reading all=
 the post on this list so far!</div></td></tr></table><br>=0A=0A      
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Fascinating images! Especially when setting the Flickr slideshow to
full screen mode.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)
<emile@foryourhead.com> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I recently uploaded Car Lights a new photo essay on Flickr -- it can be s=
een
> at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157622805556082/
>
> I'm also working up some video/animation material based on these and simi=
lar
> images. If any composers or improvisors out there would be interested in
> creating a 5 - 8 minute piece for such a video, please get in touch
>
> Further notes on the photo essay are below. Thanks for looking.
>
> I've always been fascinated by the photographic possibilities inherent in
> reflections, transmitted light, and refracted light. I've been taking a l=
ot
> of photos recently of closeups of car headlights and taillights, which
> combine all three.
>
> Car Lights consists of a sequence of these pictures, with the original
> photos interspersed with images treated with various Photoshop filters.
>
> The 'Doctor' in Doctor T comes from my Ph. D. in physics. A friend of min=
e
> used to say that I took 'physicist's pictures'. I don't think about the
> physics when I take images like these, but they can reasonably be describ=
ed
> as physicist's pictures'.
>
> --
> " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." =C2=A0-- Paul Bley
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Emile Tobenfeld, P=
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well, i can't speak directly to this-
i just looked up the the e-h #1 echo and on m-f.com it says it has 2 sec of delay.

i have a boss dd7, and the delay goes up to 6.something sec---and i'm not sure if
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but i do use the 3.2 sec of delay a lot for my looping and you can get infinate delays going and modulate it to mess up the time etc....the thing w/ it w/ the level all the way up, it gets noisy FAST! but that can be good or bad....

i don't remember what the dd3 had for max time, it seems each subsequent boss dd pedal added a bit longer of delay option, the dd6 had up to 5 sec of delay or something.
useful at times.
of course the dd7 has the sound on sound options for 40 sec, which i've used a bit, but not much. 
a bit of info--not sure if it helps you....i'm most curious about the digitech hardware dl8 pedal--i would much prefer using 8 sec of delay than what the dd7 offers, and when i was looking at pedals a yr ago, i got to try the dd7 at the local GtrCntr so decided to stick w/ that...i didn't get to play w/ the digitech dl8 much there.....
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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">well, i can't speak directly to this-<br>i just looked up the the e-h #1 echo and on m-f.com it says it has 2 sec of delay.<br><br>i have a boss dd7, and the delay goes up to 6.something sec---and i'm not sure if<br>i'm a huge fan of the supposed "6 sec", b/c to get the 6 sec you have to use the stereo<br>out jack--so it's kind of a screwy thing-in my estimation.<br>but i do use the 3.2 sec of delay a lot for my looping and you can get infinate delays going and modulate it to mess up the time etc....the thing w/ it w/ the level all the way up, it gets noisy FAST! but that can be good or bad....<br><br>i don't remember what the dd3 had for max time, it seems each subsequent boss dd pedal added a bit longer of delay option, the dd6 had up to 5 sec of delay or something.<br>useful at times.<br>of course the dd7 has the sound on sound options for 40 sec, which i've
 used a bit, but not much. <br>a bit of info--not sure if it helps you....i'm most curious about the digitech hardware dl8 pedal--i would much prefer using 8 sec of delay than what the dd7 offers, and when i was looking at pedals a yr ago, i got to try the dd7 at the local GtrCntr so decided to stick w/ that...i didn't get to play w/ the digitech dl8 much there.....<br>oh well...as they say: happy hunting....<br>s---<br>www.myspace.com/scotthansen<br></td></tr></table><br>

      
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Steve welcome.  Interesting thoughts re your record Symmetria.  Equally your
background as well.  I was at Y2K this year but only for Saturday so I'm
sorry I missed hearing you but in watching the 'low end' video I can easily
hear the influences, somewhat being Jeff Berlin to my ears.

Once again welcome to LD...

Jim Goodin
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com



On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Steve Uccello <stevebassbird@yahoo.com>wrote:

>   Hello fellow loopers, Steve Uccello here sending out a message to you
> all to say hi, introduce myself, and let you know about an upcoming looping
> show. I am new to Looper's Delight and look forward to my subscription!
>
> -Uccello Project, live full length show
>
> -Time: Saturday, December 12th, 2009  - 7:30 pm
>
> -Place: House Concert In Seaside, CA (USA)
>
> -contact: email stevebassbird@yahoo.com
>
> -or call 831-801-4920 for details
>
> -details: Price: $12 (includes show/drinks/snacks!)
>
> Background:  I just performed at the Y2K9 International Live Looping
> Festival, and I have also shared the stage with loopers such as Joe Craven
> and Steve Lawson. This will be the first full length show by Uccello Project
> and will feature me on Upright/Dobro Basses, and Acoustic Guitar. -There
> will also be a few special guests sitting in!
>
> Also, I invite you to visit my blog and hear my new record, Symmetria, in
> it's entirety, Free:
>
> http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/
>
> ...here's a couple blurbs about it:
>
>  Symmetria by the Uccello Project is a gorgeous, instrumental and largely
> unclassifiable record. Best thought of as 'cinematic', each of the tracks
> conjures up a range of emotions and images, taking the listener on a
> beautiful journey. The layers of basses, guitars and percussion ebb and
> flow, drawing on jazz, folk, blues and African music, blending all the
> elements into one lovely album. Recommended.
>
> Steve Lawson (Aug 18, 2009)
>
> I just received the first Uccello Project CD, 'Symmetria' in the mail
> today.  I was really taken by the track 'Chiral' and by the records
> intriguing blend of acoustic and electric guitars and bass guitars,
> guitarron, mandolin, gongs, hand drums, drumset, harp and flutes all played
> by talented multi-instrumentalist, live looper, Steve Uccello. The record
> has beautiful ambient passages, composed tunes and even veers into
> experimnental and almost dark ambient territory.  A very impressive first
> effort.  I look forward to hearing what this talented musician has to play
> at  the Y2K9 looping festival for the first time this year.
>  Rick Walker, composer/lo fi, toy video artist/found sound/live looper,
> Founder: Y2K International Live Looping Festivals (Aug 28, 2009)
>
>
> Thanks for your time, and i've been enjoying reading all the post on this
> list so far!
>
>


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<div>Steve welcome.=A0 Interesting thoughts re your record Symmetria.=A0 Eq=
ually your background as well.=A0 I was at Y2K this year but only for Satur=
day so I&#39;m sorry I missed hearing you but in watching the &#39;low end&=
#39; video I can easily hear the influences, somewhat being Jeff Berlin to =
my ears.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Once again welcome to LD...</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Jim Goodin</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com/">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><=
/div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/">www.chinapaintingmusic.=
com</a></div>
<div><br><br>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Steve Uccello <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stevebassbird@yahoo.com">stevebassbi=
rd@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<table border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0">
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<td valign=3D"top">
<div>Hello fellow loopers, Steve Uccello here sending out a message to you =
all to say hi, introduce myself, and let you know about an upcoming looping=
 show. I am new to Looper&#39;s Delight and look forward to my subscription=
!</div>

<div><br></div>
<div>-Uccello Project, live full length show</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>-Time: Saturday, December 12th, 2009 =A0- 7:30 pm</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>-Place: House Concert In Seaside, CA (USA)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>-contact: email <a href=3D"mailto:stevebassbird@yahoo.com" target=3D"_=
blank">stevebassbird@yahoo.com</a>=A0</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>-or call 831-801-4920 for details</div>
<div><span style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: pre"></span>=A0</div>
<div>-details: Price: $12 (includes show/drinks/snacks!)=A0</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Background: =A0I just performed at the Y2K9 International Live Looping=
 Festival, and I have also shared the stage with loopers such as Joe Craven=
 and Steve Lawson. This will be the first full length show by Uccello Proje=
ct and will feature me on Upright/Dobro Basses, and Acoustic Guitar. -There=
 will also be a few special guests sitting in!</div>

<div><br></div>
<div>Also, I invite you to visit my blog and hear my new record, Symmetria,=
 in it&#39;s entirety, Free:</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/</a>=A0</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>...here&#39;s a couple blurbs about it:</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; FONT-FAMILY: &#39;normal Verdana&#39=
;, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(51,51,51); FONT-SIZE: 11px">
<blockquote style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM: 9px; FONT-STYLE: italic; MARGIN: 0px; =
PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 9px">
<p style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM: 15px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-=
RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"><span style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0=
px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: mceinline; PADDING-=
TOP: 0px">Symmetria by the Uccello Project is a gorgeous, instrumental and =
largely unclassifiable record. Best thought of as &#39;cinematic&#39;, each=
 of the tracks conjures up a range of emotions and images, taking the liste=
ner on a beautiful journey. The layers of basses, guitars and percussion eb=
b and flow, drawing on jazz, folk, blues and African music, blending all th=
e elements into one lovely album. Recommended.</span></p>
</blockquote>
<div style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 40px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PAD=
DING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; PADDING-TOP: 0px">Steve Lawson (Aug 18,=
 2009)</div>
<div style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 40px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PAD=
DING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; PADDING-TOP: 0px"><br></div>
<div style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 40px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PAD=
DING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; PADDING-TOP: 0px"><span style=3D"FONT-S=
TYLE: italic; FONT-WEIGHT: normal">I just received the first Uccello Projec=
t CD, &#39;Symmetria&#39; in the mail today. =A0I was really taken by the t=
rack &#39;Chiral&#39; and by the records intriguing blend=A0of acoustic and=
 electric guitars and bass guitars, guitarron, mandolin, gongs, hand drums,=
=A0drumset, harp and flutes all played by talented multi-instrumentalist, l=
ive looper,=A0Steve Uccello. The record has beautiful ambient passages, com=
posed tunes=A0and even veers into experimnental and almost dark ambient ter=
ritory. =A0A very=A0impressive first effort. =A0I look forward to hearing w=
hat this talented musician=A0has to play at =A0the Y2K9 looping festival fo=
r the first time this year.</span></div>

<div style=3D"PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 40px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PAD=
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DING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; PADDING-TOP: 0px">Rick Walker, composer=
/lo fi, toy video artist/found sound/live looper, Founder: Y2K Internationa=
l Live Looping Festivals (Aug 28, 2009)</div>
</span></div></span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Thanks for your time, and i&#39;ve been enjoying reading all the post =
on this list so far!</div></td></tr></tbody></table><br></blockquote></div>=
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Hey, Scott - thanks for the reply.

The DD3 hold function goes from 200-800ms, so, yeah, just enough time for a=
 chord wash, unless you're Yngwie J. Malmsteen in which case you can get in=
 about 30 arpeggios...

And you need to keep your foot on the pedal to engage the hold function.

As it turns out, I already have a DOD DFX9 (bought from our very own Paul H=
aslem - K/W's double threat of best plumber and hammered dulcimer player!) =
which, according to http://www.americaspedal.net/dfx9/, it's loop/hold func=
tion is 222-1000ms.

Which means that the DD3 is pretty much the same as the DFX9....

Hmmmm....<pausing>.....go figure....I guess other than wanting a DD3 becaus=
e I'm a Bill Frisell-wannabe, I don't really need it.


ted h.
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--- On Mon, 11/16/09, scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com>
Subject: dd3 v. #1 Echo
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Received: Monday, November 16, 2009, 9:50 AM

well, i can't speak directly to this-
i just looked up the the e-h #1 echo and on m-f.com it says it has 2 sec of=
 delay.

i have a boss dd7, and the delay goes up to 6.something sec---and i'm not s=
ure if
i'm a huge fan of the supposed "6 sec", b/c to get the 6 sec you have to us=
e the stereo
out jack--so it's kind of a screwy thing-in my estimation.
but i do use the 3.2 sec of delay a lot for my looping and you can get infi=
nate delays going and modulate it to mess up the time etc....the thing w/ i=
t w/ the level all the way up, it gets noisy FAST! but that can be good or =
bad....

i don't remember what the dd3 had for max time, it seems each subsequent bo=
ss dd pedal added a bit longer of delay option, the dd6 had up to 5 sec of =
delay or something.
useful at times.
of course the dd7 has the sound on sound options for 40 sec, which i've=0A =
used a bit, but not much.=20
a bit of info--not sure if it helps you....i'm most curious about the digit=
ech hardware dl8 pedal--i would much prefer using 8 sec of delay than what =
the dd7 offers, and when i was looking at pedals a yr ago, i got to try the=
 dd7 at the local GtrCntr so decided to stick w/ that...i didn't get to pla=
y w/ the digitech dl8 much there.....
oh well...as they say: happy hunting....
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><br>Hey, Scott - thanks for the reply.<br><br=
>The DD3 hold function goes from 200-800ms, so, yeah, just enough time for =
a chord wash, unless you're Yngwie J. Malmsteen in which case you can get i=
n about 30 arpeggios...<br><br>And you need to keep your foot on the pedal =
to engage the hold function.<br><br>As it turns out, I already have a DOD D=
FX9 (bought from our very own Paul Haslem - K/W's double threat of best plu=
mber and hammered dulcimer player!) which, according to http://www.americas=
pedal.net/dfx9/, it's loop/hold function is 222-1000ms.<br><br>Which means =
that the DD3 is pretty much the same as the DFX9....<br><br>Hmmmm....&lt;pa=
using&gt;.....go figure....I guess other than wanting a DD3 because I'm a B=
ill Frisell-wannabe, I don't really need it.<br><br><br>ted h.<br>Enemies a=
re good for self-definition. Werner Herzog<br><br>--- On <b>Mon, 11/16/09,
 scott hansen <i>&lt;evanpeewee@yahoo.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote=
 style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; paddin=
g-left: 5px;"><br>From: scott hansen &lt;evanpeewee@yahoo.com&gt;<br>Subjec=
t: dd3 v. #1 Echo<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>Received: M=
onday, November 16, 2009, 9:50 AM<br><br><div id=3D"yiv1089329349"><table b=
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n't speak directly to this-<br>i just looked up the the e-h #1 echo and on =
m-f.com it says it has 2 sec of delay.<br><br>i have a boss dd7, and the de=
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elay or something.<br>useful at times.<br>of course the dd7 has the sound o=
n sound options for 40 sec, which i've=0A used a bit, but not much. <br>a b=
it of info--not sure if it helps you....i'm most curious about the digitech=
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7 at the local GtrCntr so decided to stick w/ that...i didn't get to play w=
/ the digitech dl8 much there.....<br>oh well...as they say: happy hunting.=
...<br>s---<br>www.myspace.com/scotthansen<br></td></tr></tbody></table><br=
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This is the second version (smaller enclosure)

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This is the second version (smaller enclosure)<br><br>Small blemish on one of the corners, otherwise it&#39;s in perfect condition. It&#39;s way too complicated for me, and I need to pay rent, so it must go.<br><br>Price: $500<br>

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scott hansen wrote:
> well, i can't speak directly to this-
> i just looked up the the e-h #1 echo and on m-f.com it says it has 2 sec 
> of delay.
> 
> i have a boss dd7, and the delay goes up to 6.something sec---and i'm 
> not sure if
> i'm a huge fan of the supposed "6 sec", b/c to get the 6 sec you have to 
> use the stereo
> out jack--so it's kind of a screwy thing-in my estimation.
> but i do use the 3.2 sec of delay a lot for my looping and you can get 
> infinate delays going and modulate it to mess up the time etc....the 
> thing w/ it w/ the level all the way up, it gets noisy FAST! but that 
> can be good or bad....
> 
> i don't remember what the dd3 had for max time, it seems each subsequent 
> boss dd pedal added a bit longer of delay option, the dd6 had up to 5 
> sec of delay or something.
> useful at times.
> of course the dd7 has the sound on sound options for 40 sec, which i've 
> used a bit, but not much.
> a bit of info--not sure if it helps you....i'm most curious about the 
> digitech hardware dl8 pedal--i would much prefer using 8 sec of delay 
> than what the dd7 offers, and when i was looking at pedals a yr ago, i 
> got to try the dd7 at the local GtrCntr so decided to stick w/ that...i 
> didn't get to play w/ the digitech dl8 much there.....
> oh well...as they say: happy hunting....
> s---
> www.myspace.com/scotthansen
> 
> 


I bought a DL8 a few months ago as a sort-of replacement for an old 
Digitech Time Machine which has blown its power supply (anyone out there 
in the UK able to fix this???).
It kindof does what it says on the tin, but it's a disappointment.
Yes, up to 8secs straight delay (can be tap-tempo'd), up to 20sec 
loop/overdub, various fashionable effects such as tape emulation, 
reverse echo etc, but some weird quirks like turning the feedback to max 
cuts the delay record! And trying to use the stereo out gives a 
ping-pong echo with half the stated delay time on one channel.
A useful pedal, good value for money, but try before you buy; at Digital 
Village where I bought mine this wasn't possible!!

Dave Draper
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Dave Draper wrote:

> 
> I bought a DL8 a few months ago as a sort-of replacement for an old 
> Digitech Time Machine which has blown its power supply (anyone out there 
> in the UK able to fix this???).


http://www.abeltronics.co.uk/audio-repairs.shtml



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From: "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Dave Draper wrote:
>
>>
>> I bought a DL8 a few months ago as a sort-of replacement for an old 
>> Digitech Time Machine which has blown its power supply (anyone out there 
>> in the UK able to fix this???).
>
>
> http://www.abeltronics.co.uk/audio-repairs.shtml

Just another reason why I love being on this list.  I too have a DigiTech 
7.6 Time Machine - though bought in the US - that suddenly became too noisy 
to include in the signal chain (right before the VSV festival, typical!). 
I've inquired as to Abeltronics' rates, as I've also got a 1975 E-H Small 
Stone in need of loving care (it's been in a box awaiting care for some 
time).

Stephen Goodman
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>As it turns out, I already have a DOD DFX9 (bought from our very own 
>Paul Haslem - K/W's double threat of best plumber and hammered 
>dulcimer player!) which, according to 
>http://www.americaspedal.net/dfx9/, it's loop/hold function is 222-1000ms.


Ted you make me blush........... who ever would have thought to hear 
the words plumber and hammer dulcimer in the same sentence?

paul 

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Last time I tried to post stuff on here my inbox crapped out so Im here for=
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UK only please=2C I just want a simple transaction to get some money before=
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MUSIC STUFF FOR SALE=20

Contact Phill Wilson on 07981499204

=20

=20

MicroKorg.......You
Know what this does surely!!! =A3250
seems about right according to ebay!!

=20

Line 6 DL4 - very good entry looper and Delay Modeller !! =A3160

=20

Line 6 FM4 Filter Modeller
... a crazy purple pedal supporting models from fx boxes MANY times its
price... =A3160

=20

Boss Loop station
RC-20 a sturdy loop pedal with tons of time and unlimited overdubs=2C also
with 16 slots to pre record and jam to.=A3140

=20

Alesis ModFx Vocorder
- this is an awesome piece of kit=2C 8 band high quality vocorder=2C can be
used with guitar=2C dj kit or any input signal or even itself =A345

=20

Alesis ModFx Smashup
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pumping that even the boss ones dont do...=A345

=20

Alesis ModFx Temolo -
Beat synced and rhythmic trem Fx plus extra gates... =A345

=20

Zoom 707 and 505 -
the best entry level Fx...its been a good beginners pedal for years..or one=
 for
taking on th road when you need to scale the equipment down.=A340 and =A330

=20

Zoom 2120 - older
then the 707 but with some crazy extras such as multipart looper built in..=
.was
the top in its day =A340

=20

Zoom Amp Modeller.works
like a POD but with all hands on controls and no menus..good demos on youtu=
be =A350

=20

Guitars

=20

Wesley Telecaster in Metallic
Blue - better then a squire cheap entry level guitar...really nice neck
would make a good learner or project guitar. =A3100

=20

Wesley Traveller- full
size but with very compact SEE THROUGH PURPLE PLASTIC BODY !! great for roa=
d
trips =A360

=20

Westfield black electro-acoustic =96 Nice solid
topped guitar with decent pre amp=20
system=2C the perfect pub gig guitar - =A380


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phillip wilson wrote:
 
> 
> *Zoom 2120 -* older then the 707 but with some crazy extras such as 
> multipart looper built in...was the top in its day *£40*
> 

that'll be the 2100 then

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Hi,

This is a practice piece I did for my gig at the Santa Cruz loop fest. I
took it with me just to remind myself what things I wanted to try and
when.

For a change I wanted to limit myself to looping only vocals, and nylon
guitar.
Fortunately(in retrospect),
my laptop had plans of it's own and decided to do a total freak out
session on me.
I ended up having to wing it through the gig and eventually ended up
borrowing a bass and looping pedal(line6 m9) for the rest of the festival
from my Rick Walker.
Thanks Rick.

I'm still hoping to do a live video of it, maybe early next year, and try
it again at the y2k10 fest.

I know they were a lot of us that had technical problems at the fest.
Anyone else have some clips for the "Contenders"?




http://www.andredonawa.com/music-46.html
http://www.andredonawa.com/audio/Angel%236_hifi.mp3


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thanks for the info on the dl-8,
a bummer about it's little quirks, i had the same thing w/ the 1st digitech=
 digidelay-
for some reason, when i put the feedback to 100%, it would not continue, it=
 would fade out, w/ the 4 sec of delay, which bummed me out.
so i got rid of it.
then a yr later, i decided to try one again, bought this one new, and the 1=
00% feedback worked great, and i used it a lot for short 4 sec loops.
odd, oh well, guess you can never tell what's going on in the=A0 electronic=
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<DIV>a bummer about it's little quirks, i had the same thing w/ the 1st dig=
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James,

 

I've been running an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 PCI for years and it's been
great.  They are about $99 these days. I've since upgraded to a Firepod, but
not because I was unhappy with the 2496.  The Firepod just has more I/O that
I was looking for.  Actually, I still run the 2496 as my default audio card
for watching videos and gaming.  Plus it gives me more MIDI ports.

 

Tony

 

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hi.  i'm planning on building my own pc for live audio processing and am
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> This is a practice piece I did for my gig at the Santa Cruz loop fest

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On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:10 AM, james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi.=C2=A0 i'm planning on building my own pc for live audio processing an=
d am
> curious if anybody has any experience with pci interfaces.=C2=A0 i need 2=
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> and midi would be a nice addition and it looks like m-audio is my #1 pick=
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> any and all advice or experience would be appreciated.
>
> thx.
>
> - jim

Yes, before 2004 I always used PCI interfaces. Generally they are more
sturdy and faster than firewire and USB, so you get less AD/DA
latency. It's not possible to recommend one product before any other,
you should pick one that meets your needs. If MIDI is not included on
the PCI card it might just be good, since then you know that audio
streaming will work optimally. There are loads of really cheap USB
MIDI interfaces that you simply plug in without even needing software
drivers. RME seems to be the company with the best track record in
general, although specific products from other manufacturers may be
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so as before but with the zoom 2100

ta andy

> Date: Tue=2C 17 Nov 2009 16:51:09 +0000
> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk
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hi =2C

im a big supported of the digitech delay and my take on it was that feedbac=
k 0-97% of the knobs rotation equalled incresed feedback with 97% being con=
tinuous...however the bit that was cool for me was that 100% SHUT OFF the i=
nput to the delay but allowed it to keep playing ....which let me use the d=
elay in a more loop orientated way=2C capturing audio then punching out to =
solo over it without that solo being added=2C then drop the knob back sub %=
100 when  i was ready to add in more.

i thought it was a genius feature but that they didnt explain it properly t=
o the audience.

well thats how mine works.

phill=20

Date: Tue=2C 17 Nov 2009 13:28:28 -0800
From: evanpeewee@yahoo.com
Subject: gitech dl-8
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

thanks for the info on the dl-8=2C
a bummer about it's little quirks=2C i had the same thing w/ the 1st digite=
ch digidelay-
for some reason=2C when i put the feedback to 100%=2C it would not continue=
=2C it would fade out=2C w/ the 4 sec of delay=2C which bummed me out.
so i got rid of it.
then a yr later=2C i decided to try one again=2C bought this one new=2C and=
 the 100% feedback worked great=2C and i used it a lot for short 4 sec loop=
s.
odd=2C oh well=2C guess you can never tell what's going on in the  electron=
ics w/ some pedals....
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hi =2C<br><br>im a big supported of the digitech delay and my take on it wa=
s that feedback 0-97% of the knobs rotation equalled incresed feedback with=
 97% being continuous...however the bit that was cool for me was that 100% =
SHUT OFF the input to the delay but allowed it to keep playing ....which le=
t me use the delay in a more loop orientated way=2C capturing audio then pu=
nching out to solo over it without that solo being added=2C then drop the k=
nob back sub %100 when&nbsp=3B i was ready to add in more.<br><br>i thought=
 it was a genius feature but that they didnt explain it properly to the aud=
ience.<br><br>well thats how mine works.<br><br>phill <br><br><hr id=3D"sto=
pSpelling">Date: Tue=2C 17 Nov 2009 13:28:28 -0800<br>From: evanpeewee@yaho=
o.com<br>Subject: gitech dl-8<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br=
><br><table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td=
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one=3B" valign=3D"top"><div>thanks for the info on the dl-8=2C</div>
<div>a bummer about it's little quirks=2C i had the same thing w/ the 1st d=
igitech digidelay-</div>
<div>for some reason=2C when i put the feedback to 100%=2C it would not con=
tinue=2C it would fade out=2C w/ the 4 sec of delay=2C which bummed me out.=
</div>
<div>so i got rid of it.</div>
<div>then a yr later=2C i decided to try one again=2C bought this one new=
=2C and the 100% feedback worked great=2C and i used it a lot for short 4 s=
ec loops.</div>
<div>odd=2C oh well=2C guess you can never tell what's going on in the&nbsp=
=3B electronics w/ some pedals....</div>
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Hmmm=2C=20

I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would start thinking ab=
out this one.... virtual instruments!!

basically I WILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in my music..=
i cant explain why  but I wont=2C its not my thing...EVER!!


so now that hats out or the way im going to get all contrary..........


I have started to look at buying a used Korg PadKontrol=2C with the notion =
of using it to create diatonic presets to use with my micro kord and EA1 sy=
nths ( basically im not a keys player so i figure i will rule out the bum n=
otes and play by feal through assigning custom scales to my pads).

so I am quite far along this route when I realise that basically the keys o=
f the microkorg and the knobs of the EA1 are now pretty moot..... BUT I STI=
LL DONT WANT A LAPTOP!!!


so basically and finally=2C is there a little box I can use without a scree=
n and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice VSTi synth=2C some samples and po=
ssibly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using a computer at the editing stage=
) and then unplug and just have it act similar to the "brain" of a v-drum b=
asically a custom sound module ( or is there any really good midi sound mod=
ules you can recommend for drums =2C ethnic precussion and synth sounds.


also anyone using pads in a diatonic way like this?

ta for the long read

Phill

From: phillwilson@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: gitech dl-8
Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 09:43:33 +0000








hi =2C

im a big supported of the digitech delay and my take on it was that feedbac=
k 0-97% of the knobs rotation equalled incresed feedback with 97% being con=
tinuous...however the bit that was cool for me was that 100% SHUT OFF the i=
nput to the delay but allowed it to keep playing ....which let me use the d=
elay in a more loop orientated way=2C capturing audio then punching out to =
solo over it without that solo being added=2C then drop the knob back sub %=
100 when  i was ready to add in more.

i thought it was a genius feature but that they didnt explain it properly t=
o the audience.

well thats how mine works.

phill=20

Date: Tue=2C 17 Nov 2009 13:28:28 -0800
From: evanpeewee@yahoo.com
Subject: gitech dl-8
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

thanks for the info on the dl-8=2C
a bummer about it's little quirks=2C i had the same thing w/ the 1st digite=
ch digidelay-
for some reason=2C when i put the feedback to 100%=2C it would not continue=
=2C it would fade out=2C w/ the 4 sec of delay=2C which bummed me out.
so i got rid of it.
then a yr later=2C i decided to try one again=2C bought this one new=2C and=
 the 100% feedback worked great=2C and i used it a lot for short 4 sec loop=
s.
odd=2C oh well=2C guess you can never tell what's going on in the  electron=
ics w/ some pedals....
s---
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Hmmm=2C <br><br>I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would s=
tart thinking about this one.... virtual instruments!!<br><br>basically I W=
ILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in my music..i cant explai=
n why&nbsp=3B but I wont=2C its not my thing...EVER!!<br><br><br>so now tha=
t hats out or the way im going to get all contrary..........<br><br><br>I h=
ave started to look at buying a used Korg PadKontrol=2C with the notion of =
using it to create diatonic presets to use with my micro kord and EA1 synth=
s ( basically im not a keys player so i figure i will rule out the bum note=
s and play by feal through assigning custom scales to my pads).<br><br>so I=
 am quite far along this route when I realise that basically the keys of th=
e microkorg and the knobs of the EA1 are now pretty moot..... BUT I STILL D=
ONT WANT A LAPTOP!!!<br><br><br>so basically and finally=2C is there a litt=
le box I can use without a screen and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice V=
STi synth=2C some samples and possibly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using=
 a computer at the editing stage) and then unplug and just have it act simi=
lar to the "brain" of a v-drum basically a custom sound module ( or is ther=
e any really good midi sound modules you can recommend for drums =2C ethnic=
 precussion and synth sounds.<br><br><br>also anyone using pads in a diaton=
ic way like this?<br><br>ta for the long read<br><br>Phill<br><br><hr id=3D=
"stopSpelling">From: phillwilson@hotmail.com<br>To: loopers-delight@loopers=
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hi =2C<br><br>im a big supported of the digitech delay and my take on it wa=
s that feedback 0-97% of the knobs rotation equalled incresed feedback with=
 97% being continuous...however the bit that was cool for me was that 100% =
SHUT OFF the input to the delay but allowed it to keep playing ....which le=
t me use the delay in a more loop orientated way=2C capturing audio then pu=
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<div>a bummer about it's little quirks=2C i had the same thing w/ the 1st d=
igitech digidelay-</div>
<div>for some reason=2C when i put the feedback to 100%=2C it would not con=
tinue=2C it would fade out=2C w/ the 4 sec of delay=2C which bummed me out.=
</div>
<div>so i got rid of it.</div>
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=2C and the 100% feedback worked great=2C and i used it a lot for short 4 s=
ec loops.</div>
<div>odd=2C oh well=2C guess you can never tell what's going on in the&nbsp=
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You might want to check this out mate

http://www.smproaudio.com/english/products/v-machines/v-pedal.html

peace

g

From: phillwilson@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Taking VSTs out on the road
Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 11:46:43 +0000








Hmmm=2C=20

I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would start thinking ab=
out this one.... virtual instruments!!

basically I WILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in my music..=
i cant explain why  but I wont=2C its not my thing...EVER!!


so now that hats out or the way im going to get all contrary..........


I have started to look at buying a used Korg PadKontrol=2C with the notion =
of using it to create diatonic presets to use with my micro kord and EA1 sy=
nths ( basically im not a keys player so i figure i will rule out the bum n=
otes and play by feal through assigning custom scales to my pads).

so I am quite far along this route when I realise that basically the keys o=
f the microkorg and the knobs of the EA1 are now pretty moot..... BUT I STI=
LL DONT WANT A LAPTOP!!!


so basically and finally=2C is there a little box I can use without a scree=
n and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice VSTi synth=2C some samples and po=
ssibly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using a computer at the editing stage=
) and then unplug and just have it act similar to the "brain" of a v-drum b=
asically a custom sound module ( or is there any really good midi sound mod=
ules you can recommend for drums =2C ethnic precussion and synth sounds.


also anyone using pads in a diatonic way like this?

ta for the long read

Phill

From: phillwilson@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: gitech dl-8
Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 09:43:33 +0000








hi =2C

im a big supported of the digitech delay and my take on it was that feedbac=
k 0-97% of the knobs rotation equalled incresed feedback with 97% being con=
tinuous...however the bit that was cool for me was that 100% SHUT OFF the i=
nput to the delay but allowed it to keep playing ....which let me use the d=
elay in a more loop orientated way=2C capturing audio then punching out to =
solo over it without that solo being added=2C then drop the knob back sub %=
100 when  i was ready to add in more.

i thought it was a genius feature but that they didnt explain it properly t=
o the audience.

well thats how mine works.

phill=20

Date: Tue=2C 17 Nov 2009 13:28:28 -0800
From: evanpeewee@yahoo.com
Subject: gitech dl-8
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

thanks for the info on the dl-8=2C
a bummer about it's little quirks=2C i had the same thing w/ the 1st digite=
ch digidelay-
for some reason=2C when i put the feedback to 100%=2C it would not continue=
=2C it would fade out=2C w/ the 4 sec of delay=2C which bummed me out.
so i got rid of it.
then a yr later=2C i decided to try one again=2C bought this one new=2C and=
 the 100% feedback worked great=2C and i used it a lot for short 4 sec loop=
s.
odd=2C oh well=2C guess you can never tell what's going on in the  electron=
ics w/ some pedals....
s---
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Hmmm=2C <br><br>I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would s=
tart thinking about this one.... virtual instruments!!<br><br>basically I W=
ILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in my music..i cant explai=
n why&nbsp=3B but I wont=2C its not my thing...EVER!!<br><br><br>so now tha=
t hats out or the way im going to get all contrary..........<br><br><br>I h=
ave started to look at buying a used Korg PadKontrol=2C with the notion of =
using it to create diatonic presets to use with my micro kord and EA1 synth=
s ( basically im not a keys player so i figure i will rule out the bum note=
s and play by feal through assigning custom scales to my pads).<br><br>so I=
 am quite far along this route when I realise that basically the keys of th=
e microkorg and the knobs of the EA1 are now pretty moot..... BUT I STILL D=
ONT WANT A LAPTOP!!!<br><br><br>so basically and finally=2C is there a litt=
le box I can use without a screen and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice V=
STi synth=2C some samples and possibly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using=
 a computer at the editing stage) and then unplug and just have it act simi=
lar to the "brain" of a v-drum basically a custom sound module ( or is ther=
e any really good midi sound modules you can recommend for drums =2C ethnic=
 precussion and synth sounds.<br><br><br>also anyone using pads in a diaton=
ic way like this?<br><br>ta for the long read<br><br>Phill<br><br><hr id=3D=
"ecxstopSpelling">From: phillwilson@hotmail.com<br>To: loopers-delight@loop=
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hi =2C<br><br>im a big supported of the digitech delay and my take on it wa=
s that feedback 0-97% of the knobs rotation equalled incresed feedback with=
 97% being continuous...however the bit that was cool for me was that 100% =
SHUT OFF the input to the delay but allowed it to keep playing ....which le=
t me use the delay in a more loop orientated way=2C capturing audio then pu=
nching out to solo over it without that solo being added=2C then drop the k=
nob back sub %100 when&nbsp=3B i was ready to add in more.<br><br>i thought=
 it was a genius feature but that they didnt explain it properly to the aud=
ience.<br><br>well thats how mine works.<br><br>phill <br><br><hr id=3D"ecx=
ecxstopSpelling">Date: Tue=2C 17 Nov 2009 13:28:28 -0800<br>From: evanpeewe=
e@yahoo.com<br>Subject: gitech dl-8<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.=
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igitech digidelay-</div>
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ec loops.</div>
<div>odd=2C oh well=2C guess you can never tell what's going on in the&nbsp=
=3B electronics w/ some pedals....</div>
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Damn, I didn't know this v-pedal, it's sexy ! I wasn't able to find
the price of this thing, any info ?

A classic player in the "vst hidden in hardware" area is muse research
: http://www.museresearch.com/, but now that I've seen the v-pedal, I
find it less attractive :p.

Rapha=EBl


2009/11/18 Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk>
>
> You might want to check this out mate
>
> http://www.smproaudio.com/english/products/v-machines/v-pedal.html
>
> peace
>
> g
>
> ________________________________
> From: phillwilson@hotmail.com
> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Taking VSTs out on the road
> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:46:43 +0000
>
> Hmmm,
>
> I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would start thinking =
about this one.... virtual instruments!!
>
> basically I WILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in my music=
..i cant explain why=A0 but I wont, its not my thing...EVER!!
>
>
> so now that hats out or the way im going to get all contrary..........
>
>
> I have started to look at buying a used Korg PadKontrol, with the notion =
of using it to create diatonic presets to use with my micro kord and EA1 sy=
nths ( basically im not a keys player so i figure i will rule out the bum n=
otes and play by feal through assigning custom scales to my pads).
>
> so I am quite far along this route when I realise that basically the keys=
 of the microkorg and the knobs of the EA1 are now pretty moot..... BUT I S=
TILL DONT WANT A LAPTOP!!!
>
>
> so basically and finally, is there a little box I can use without a scree=
n and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice VSTi synth, some samples and poss=
ibly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using a computer at the editing stage) =
and then unplug and just have it act similar to the "brain" of a v-drum bas=
ically a custom sound module ( or is there any really good midi sound modul=
es you can recommend for drums , ethnic precussion and synth sounds.
>
>
> also anyone using pads in a diatonic way like this?
>
> ta for the long read
>
> Phill
>
> ________________________________
> From: phillwilson@hotmail.com
> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: RE: gitech dl-8
> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:43:33 +0000
>
> hi ,
>
> im a big supported of the digitech delay and my take on it was that feedb=
ack 0-97% of the knobs rotation equalled incresed feedback with 97% being c=
ontinuous...however the bit that was cool for me was that 100% SHUT OFF the=
 input to the delay but allowed it to keep playing ....which let me use the=
 delay in a more loop orientated way, capturing audio then punching out to =
solo over it without that solo being added, then drop the knob back sub %10=
0 when=A0 i was ready to add in more.
>
> i thought it was a genius feature but that they didnt explain it properly=
 to the audience.
>
> well thats how mine works.
>
> phill
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:28:28 -0800
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> Subject: gitech dl-8
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> thanks for the info on the dl-8,
> a bummer about it's little quirks, i had the same thing w/ the 1st digite=
ch digidelay-
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> so i got rid of it.
> then a yr later, i decided to try one again, bought this one new, and the=
 100% feedback worked great, and i used it a lot for short 4 sec loops.
> odd, oh well, guess you can never tell what's going on in the=A0 electron=
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Hey Michael,

Thanks for listening.

Andre

On Wed, November 18, 2009 3:09 am, Michael Peters wrote:
>> This is a practice piece I did for my gig at the Santa Cruz loop fest
>
> very nice Andre ...
>
> -Michael
>
>
>


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Stephen Goodman wrote:
> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">From: "andy 
> butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
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>> Dave Draper wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I bought a DL8 a few months ago as a sort-of replacement for an old 
>>> Digitech Time Machine which has blown its power supply (anyone out 
>>> there in the UK able to fix this???).
>>
>>
>> http://www.abeltronics.co.uk/audio-repairs.shtml
> 
> Just another reason why I love being on this list.  I too have a 
> DigiTech 7.6 Time Machine - though bought in the US - that suddenly 
> became too noisy to include in the signal chain (right before the VSV 
> festival, typical!). I've inquired as to Abeltronics' rates, as I've 
> also got a 1975 E-H Small Stone in need of loving care (it's been in a 
> box awaiting care for some time).
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> Stephen Goodman
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> 

Thanks for that Andy, and Stephen; I too have an ailing (ailed? addled?) 
Small Stone, as well as a Microsynth, Wahwah, etc etc, which need 
attention....!
I'll see what these guys have to say.
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wow thats so strange=2C

your message came in as i was watching a video on the box version on yourtu=
be !!! great minds etc etc=20

also liking the sonic cell as a more trad midi unit=2C anyone use one? does=
 it have drums?

on another note=2C i just went out for a walk and thought that i may be abl=
e to achieve what i want for a controller usint my HDP 10 and 15..... can y=
ou send midi outs in the smae patches as you have inbuilt sounds? if so it =
would be a case of taking my badly named kits
Kit 1 =2C Kit 2 etc and renameing them  C=2CD=2CE=2CF=2CG etc and have each=
 kit also send out a scale....i would then choose wether i use the handsoni=
c or the korg synth just by A?B switching to un mute.

very excited now=2C cant wait to get home if tis works!!

From: buddhamachine@live.co.uk
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: Taking VSTs out on the road
Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 12:40:35 +0000








You might want to check this out mate

http://www.smproaudio.com/english/products/v-machines/v-pedal.html

peace

g

From: phillwilson@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Taking VSTs out on the road
Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 11:46:43 +0000








Hmmm=2C=20

I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would start thinking ab=
out this one.... virtual instruments!!

basically I WILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in my music..=
i cant explain why  but I wont=2C its not my thing...EVER!!


so now that hats out or the way im going to get all contrary..........


I have started to look at buying a used Korg PadKontrol=2C with the notion =
of using it to create diatonic presets to use with my micro kord and EA1 sy=
nths ( basically im not a keys player so i figure i will rule out the bum n=
otes and play by feal through assigning custom scales to my pads).

so I am quite far along this route when I realise that basically the keys o=
f the microkorg and the knobs of the EA1 are now pretty moot..... BUT I STI=
LL DONT WANT A LAPTOP!!!


so basically and finally=2C is there a little box I can use without a scree=
n and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice VSTi synth=2C some samples and po=
ssibly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using a computer at the editing stage=
) and then unplug and just have it act similar to the "brain" of a v-drum b=
asically a custom sound module ( or is there any really good midi sound mod=
ules you can recommend for drums =2C ethnic precussion and synth sounds.


also anyone using pads in a diatonic way like this?

ta for the long read

Phill

From: phillwilson@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: gitech dl-8
Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 09:43:33 +0000








hi =2C

im a big supported of the digitech delay and my take on it was that feedbac=
k 0-97% of the knobs rotation equalled incresed feedback with 97% being con=
tinuous...however the bit that was cool for me was that 100% SHUT OFF the i=
nput to the delay but allowed it to keep playing ....which let me use the d=
elay in a more loop orientated way=2C capturing audio then punching out to =
solo over it without that solo being added=2C then drop the knob back sub %=
100 when  i was ready to add in more.

i thought it was a genius feature but that they didnt explain it properly t=
o the audience.

well thats how mine works.

phill=20

Date: Tue=2C 17 Nov 2009 13:28:28 -0800
From: evanpeewee@yahoo.com
Subject: gitech dl-8
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

thanks for the info on the dl-8=2C
a bummer about it's little quirks=2C i had the same thing w/ the 1st digite=
ch digidelay-
for some reason=2C when i put the feedback to 100%=2C it would not continue=
=2C it would fade out=2C w/ the 4 sec of delay=2C which bummed me out.
so i got rid of it.
then a yr later=2C i decided to try one again=2C bought this one new=2C and=
 the 100% feedback worked great=2C and i used it a lot for short 4 sec loop=
s.
odd=2C oh well=2C guess you can never tell what's going on in the  electron=
ics w/ some pedals....
s---
www.myspace.com/scotthansen
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drums?<br><br>on another note=2C i just went out for a walk and thought tha=
t i may be able to achieve what i want for a controller usint my HDP 10 and=
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tart thinking about this one.... virtual instruments!!<br><br>basically I W=
ILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in my music..i cant explai=
n why&nbsp=3B but I wont=2C its not my thing...EVER!!<br><br><br>so now tha=
t hats out or the way im going to get all contrary..........<br><br><br>I h=
ave started to look at buying a used Korg PadKontrol=2C with the notion of =
using it to create diatonic presets to use with my micro kord and EA1 synth=
s ( basically im not a keys player so i figure i will rule out the bum note=
s and play by feal through assigning custom scales to my pads).<br><br>so I=
 am quite far along this route when I realise that basically the keys of th=
e microkorg and the knobs of the EA1 are now pretty moot..... BUT I STILL D=
ONT WANT A LAPTOP!!!<br><br><br>so basically and finally=2C is there a litt=
le box I can use without a screen and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice V=
STi synth=2C some samples and possibly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using=
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lar to the "brain" of a v-drum basically a custom sound module ( or is ther=
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SHUT OFF the input to the delay but allowed it to keep playing ....which le=
t me use the delay in a more loop orientated way=2C capturing audio then pu=
nching out to solo over it without that solo being added=2C then drop the k=
nob back sub %100 when&nbsp=3B i was ready to add in more.<br><br>i thought=
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ience.<br><br>well thats how mine works.<br><br>phill <br><br><hr id=3D"ecx=
ecxecxstopSpelling">Date: Tue=2C 17 Nov 2009 13:28:28 -0800<br>From: evanpe=
ewee@yahoo.com<br>Subject: gitech dl-8<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig=
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Hi Andre,
Forget about the tech probs at y2k9, it's all about the music and this
is good stuff my friend. Thanks for sharing, feels like I'm on holiday
in the Caribbean ;-)

-- 
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http://premonitionfactory.com/
http://livelooping.be/
http://euroloopfest.com/

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Zoe Keating schrieb:
> while i'm in fantasy land....the ability to change the "bank" of the 
> pedal with my Kbow...and each pad will light up with 1 of 4 colors to 
> tell me what bank i'm in.
> 
> not cheap...but possibly worth it.

Should be possible to build cheaper than a Kbow...;-)
On the other hand you could still use normal footswitches and have the
visual feedback with a Launchpad or Monome...

Stefan


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Zoe Keating schrieb:
> while i'm in fantasy land....the ability to change the "bank" of the 
> pedal with my Kbow...and each pad will light up with 1 of 4 colors to 
> tell me what bank i'm in.
> 
> not cheap...but possibly worth it.

Should be possible to build cheaper than a Kbow...;-)
On the other hand you could still use normal footswitches and have the 
visual feedback with a Launchpad or Monome...

Stefan


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> is there a little box I can use without a screen and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice VSTi synth, some samples and possibly a good drunm kit

Others have already mentioned the two hardware solutions I'm aware of
(being the SMPro V series and the Muse Receptor), so I'd like to take
one step backwards:

Basically, while the idea behind those devices is nice, it's worth
mentioning that some plugins may not run on those systems or only run
with some limitations. Both manufacturers have lists of plugins which
are known to run well, so it may make sense to check those. Still, you
got the issue of licenses - the way I understand it, to use e.g.
Reaktor on your VPedal and edit things on your computer will require
you to obtain two licenses.

So my suggestion: why don't you look for something in hardware that
gives you flexible synth and sampler (and possibly FX) structures and
access to a big drum library? I would suggest something like a
Kurzweil K2500R or K2600R in combination with e.g. an Akai MPD24 as a
controller - or integrate it all and get an Akai MPC.

One word of caution: the older instruments (and this includes the
Kurzweils and at least all but the latest MPCs) use SCSI for sample
data transfer. This may be a limitation with regard to integrating it
into your production environment.

Yours,

           Rainer

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Hey Sjaak,

Thanks for the listen.
Looking forward to your album.

Andre

On Wed, November 18, 2009 9:43 am, Sjaak Overgaauw wrote:
> Hi Andre,
> Forget about the tech probs at y2k9, it's all about the music and this
> is good stuff my friend. Thanks for sharing, feels like I'm on holiday
> in the Caribbean ;-)
>
> --
> Sjaak Overgaauw
> http://premonitionfactory.com/
> http://livelooping.be/
> http://euroloopfest.com/
>
>



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hopefully cheaper than the Kbow, yes!

but "normal" footswitches are exactly what i don't want. i'm sold on =20
the light rubber pads....or even better...sensor pads


On Nov 18, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

> Zoe Keating schrieb:
>> while i'm in fantasy land....the ability to change the "bank" of =20
>> the pedal with my Kbow...and each pad will light up with 1 of 4 =20
>> colors to tell me what bank i'm in.
>> not cheap...but possibly worth it.
>
> Should be possible to build cheaper than a Kbow...;-)
> On the other hand you could still use normal footswitches and have =20
> the visual feedback with a Launchpad or Monome...
>
> Stefan
>
>
> --=20
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Par votre hôte Mr Ali Kareem:


     Date:		mercredi 18 novembre 2009

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     Rue:		Dear Friend,I apologise for intruding into your privacy.And I know this revelation will keep you wondering why should I trust you with this informations I am about to reveal to you or if what I am saying is the truth.Meanwhile,what to reveal to you is simple truth and it's just my urgent need for foreign partner that made me to contact you for this transaction.I am a banker by profession from Burkina faso in west Africa and currently holding the post of Executive Auditor and Head Of Computing Department in my bank. This e-mail is strictly confidential and is for your attention only.I am making this venture proposal to you as a reliable person who can be capable to handle this transaction with me.I discovered that nobody knows anything about this account and that if I do not remit this fund out urgently it will be forfeited for nothing.With my position in this bank,I have the opportunity of transfering the left over funds($10.2million) of one of my bank's clients who died along with his entire family on 31 july 2000 on a plane crash.You can confirm the genuiness of the deceased death by clicking on this website. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/859479.stm Before I contacted you for this I have perfected the strategies that will ensure a successful transfer of the fund into your account,so it's hitch-free you should not entertain any atom of fear at all.I am only contacting you as a foreigner because this fund cannot be approved to any Burkinabe Citizen here, but can only be approved to any foreigner because the money is in US Dollars and the owner of the account is a foreigner too.Hence, I am inviting you for a business deal where this fund can be shared between us in the ratio of 60/40. If you agree to my venture proposal, kindly furnish me with your personal information as thus:1.Full Name:2.Home Address:3.Age & Sex:4.Current Occupation:5.Private E-mail Address:6.Private Telephone number for easy communication.Upon receipt of those information,I shall in turn use it to prepare an Application For Claim and submit to the Management Of the Bank on your behalf applying for immediate release of the total fund to you as the beneficiary.Please your urgent attention to this regards will be highly appreciated for immediate process.Contact with my private email: kareem_a@sify.com Yours Sincerely,MR.ALI KAREEM.

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    <td class="propertyvalue">Dear Friend,I apologise for intruding into your privacy.And I know this revelation will keep you wondering why should I trust you with this informations I am about to reveal to you or if what I am saying is the truth.Meanwhile,what to reveal to you is simple truth and it&#39;s just my urgent need for foreign partner that made me to contact you for this transaction.I am a banker by profession from Burkina faso in west Africa and currently holding the post of Executive Auditor and Head Of Computing Department in my bank. This e-mail is strictly confidential and is for your attention only.I am making this venture proposal to you as a reliable person who can be capable to handle this transaction with me.I discovered that nobody knows anything about this account and that if I do not remit this fund out urgently it will be forfeited for nothing.With my position in this bank,I have the opportunity of transfering the left over funds($10.2million) of one of my bank&#39;s clients who died along with his entire family on 31 july 2000 on a plane crash.You can confirm the genuiness of the deceased death by clicking on this website. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/859479.stm Before I contacted you for this I have perfected the strategies that will ensure a successful transfer of the fund into your account,so it&#39;s hitch-free you should not entertain any atom of fear at all.I am only contacting you as a foreigner because this fund cannot be approved to any Burkinabe Citizen here, but can only be approved to any foreigner because the money is in US Dollars and the owner of the account is a foreigner too.Hence, I am inviting you for a business deal where this fund can be shared between us in the ratio of 60/40. If you agree to my venture proposal, kindly furnish me with your personal information as thus:1.Full Name:2.Home Address:3.Age &amp; Sex:4.Current Occupation:5.Private E-mail Address:6.Private Telephone number for easy communication.Upon receipt of those information,I shall in turn use it to prepare an Application For Claim and submit to the Management Of the Bank on your behalf applying for immediate release of the total fund to you as the beneficiary.Please your urgent attention to this regards will be highly appreciated for immediate process.Contact with my private email: kareem_a@sify.com Yours Sincerely,MR.ALI KAREEM.
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com  Thu Nov 19 00:50:05 2009
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from: phillip wilson
>I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would start thinking 
>about this one.... virtual instruments!!
>
>basically I WILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in my 
>music..i cant explain why  but I wont, its not my thing...EVER!!
>
>so basically and finally, is there a little box I can use without a screen 
>and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice VSTi synth, some samples and 
>possibly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using a computer at the editing 
>stage) and then unplug and just have it act similar to the "brain" of a 
>v-drum basically a custom sound module ( or is there any really good midi 
>sound modules you can recommend for drums , ethnic precussion and synth 
>sounds.
>
>Sounds like a small computer with a specialized input-display module, 
>perhaps LCD with a few navigation buttons.  Oh wait, that's most appliances 
>including hard disk recording satellite boxes.   No actually, if you had 
>your setup already pre-configured, and made to load at bootup, it'd work as 
>a PC without keyboard, mouse or but I suspect the best config for this 
>would be a rack unit that supports VSTs in a flexible way.

On the side I'm quite happy with the new FL Studio, since they enabled easy 
sample-recording at run-time or trigger/etc, whether it's audio input or 
midi keyboard.  Up to this point the program's been best to me as a drum 
composition tool, and the rest seemed like a sample artist's tool as opposed 
to other modes composing...

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no problemo my friend =3Bo)

thankyou for watching them and thankyou for taking time to send some love m=
y way-

even though i wish i could be self sufficient and give myself all the motiv=
ation i needed to survive as an artist=2C hearing back from complete strang=
ers is what helps me keep going =3Bo)

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and thus you are no longer a stranger=2C but a valued friend-

=20

cheers!

fro




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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: FRO videos for your viewing pleasure-
Date: Tue=2C 10 Nov 2009 09:06:37 -0500
From: nemoguitt@aol.com




"The Sermon"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw

"How you waste it"
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what a fantastic way to wake up!.....thanks and good luck fro!.....m  		 	 =
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<BR>no problemo my friend =3Bo)<BR>
thankyou for watching them and&nbsp=3Bthankyou for taking time to send some=
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and thus you are no longer a stranger=2C but a valued friend-<BR>
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cheers!<BR>
fro<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>
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Hello My Good Friend
Good day and how are you today? Hope all is well with you and your family? 
I am using this opportunity to inform you that this multi-million-dollar business has 
been concluded with the assistance of another partner from India who financed 
the transaction to a logical conclusion.
Due to your effort sincerity courage and trustworthiness you showed during the course of the transaction. 
I have left a certified international bank cheque for you worth  
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> from: phillip wilson
>
>> I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would start thinking
>> about this one.... virtual instruments!!
>>
>> basically I WILL NEVER use a traditional "pc or mac" computer in my
>> music..i cant explain why  but I wont, its not my thing...EVER!!
>>
>> so basically and finally, is there a little box I can use without a scre=
en
>> and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice VSTi synth, some samples and
>> possibly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using a computer at the editing
>> stage) and then unplug and just have it act similar to the "brain" of a
>> v-drum basically a custom sound module ( or is there any really good mid=
i
>> sound modules you can recommend for drums , ethnic precussion and synth
>> sounds.
>>
>>
There are some vst hardware hosts, but therey are either rather pricey, or
lacking in something.. I was looking into this for a bit, same reason,
prefer hardware... but I wanted to put some vst=B4s that I had programmed i=
nto
a little box... never found a good thing...

On the question of good sources of sounds ethnic or otherwise, I am really
seriously loking at the Proteus series of modules.. they are OLD NOW, and
relitively cheap on ebay, plus the ROM cards are interchangable some if you
get one model, you can stuff in some ROMS form another, so 3 rack spaces ca=
n
be 1...  I DONT have one yet, but have been drooling for a year or so now..=
.




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order-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; paddin=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
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I knew sooner or later my ears would prick up and i would start thinking ab=
out this one.... virtual instruments!!<br>
<br>
basically I WILL NEVER use a traditional &quot;pc or mac&quot; computer in =
my music..i cant explain why =A0but I wont, its not my thing...EVER!!<br>
<br>
so basically and finally, is there a little box I can use without a screen =
and whatnot where i can chuck in a nice VSTi synth, some samples and possib=
ly a good drunm kit ( I dont mind using a computer at the editing stage) an=
d then unplug and just have it act similar to the &quot;brain&quot; of a v-=
drum basically a custom sound module ( or is there any really good midi sou=
nd modules you can recommend for drums , ethnic precussion and synth sounds=
.<br>

<br></blockquote></blockquote><div><br>There are some vst hardware hosts, b=
ut therey are either rather pricey, or lacking in something.. I was looking=
 into this for a bit, same reason, prefer hardware... but I wanted to put s=
ome vst=B4s that I had programmed into a little box... never found a good t=
hing...<br>

<br>On the question of good sources of sounds ethnic or otherwise, I am rea=
lly seriously loking at the Proteus series of modules.. they are OLD NOW, a=
nd relitively cheap on ebay, plus the ROM cards are interchangable some if =
you get one model, you can stuff in some ROMS form another, so 3 rack space=
s can be 1...=A0 I DONT have one yet, but have been drooling for a year or =
so now...<br>

<br><br><br><br></div></div><a href=3D"http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfranc=
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href=3D"http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch">http=
://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch</a><br>



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> There are some vst hardware hosts, but therey are either rather pricey, o=
r
> lacking in something.. I was looking into this for a bit, same reason,
> prefer hardware... but I wanted to put some vst=B4s that I had programmed=
 into
> a little box... never found a good thing...

The Receptor is good but expensive. Regarding the SMPro V-series: I
haven't seen many reviews yet, but here's one.
http://emusician.com/aux_hardware/sm-pro-audio-vmachine-review/index1.html

I have been struggling with hardware vs software dilemma for a long
time. Despite the fact that I'm a programmer , I didn't want to go
laptop on stage because I was afraid of stability issues. Anyway,
after almost a year, I have changed my mind. Stable operating systems
do exists as well as stable VST or AU hosts and plugins and if you
have the discipline to threat a laptop as a hardware unit and use it
for music only, it works as a breeze. Keep in mind that "instability"
issues can be caused by the VST plugins itself, which means a hardware
host like receptor or V-rack will probably behave the same.

> On the question of good sources of sounds ethnic or otherwise, I am reall=
y
> seriously loking at the Proteus series of modules.. they are OLD NOW, and
> relitively cheap on ebay, plus the ROM cards are interchangable some if y=
ou
> get one model, you can stuff in some ROMS form another, so 3 rack spaces =
can
> be 1...=A0 I DONT have one yet, but have been drooling for a year or so n=
ow...

I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO, they sounds a little
dated compared to more recent rack units. More recent alternatives are
the Yamaha Motif ES rack, Roland XV-5050, Roland Fantom-X rack, Roland
Sonic cell. The Roland have the advantage  that they support the Srx
expansion cards with additional wave rom and patches. I have used the
SRX-09 World Collection Exp. Board and it sounded very good. Btw: SRX
cards fit in many Roland synths and modules.
--=20
Sjaak Overgaauw
http://premonitionfactory.com/
http://livelooping.be/
http://euroloopfest.com/

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>
> I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO, they sounds a little
> dated compared to more recent rack units.
> Sjaak Overgaauw


Im sure you are right Sjaak, I have heard this myself... it didnt deter me
too much cos I have never been able to afford "the latest things" and Im not
really sure what dated means. I still use the EDP for example. ha ha! By the
time most of my sound sources hit the mixer, they have been effected to f***
and enjoy mis-treating old gear and spend hours tweaking and mangling
patches. I am certainly going to be reading up on all the interesting
alternative you have quoted however. My suggestion was merely meant as
something one can get quite cheap nowadays.

The Receptor really looks like a cool box, but I wil never afford one in my
wildest dreams, so I dont go there!!!! I would however be interested in a
box with hard drive, with enough space to keep a bunch of VSTs in, that you
can load one at a time. Preferably with a bunch of programmable knobs right
there... I want something where I load a VST, configure the knobs to what
that instrument needs, and then save it, for later recall.
I can use my Fireworx for most things, but I have made s few cool VSTs in my
time, and would love them in my rack!  One such is the Tap-slicer.. a slicer
VST where the "holes" that the slice makes are filled in by delay from just
before the slice.. in multiple taps.. Can nearly do it using 2 EDPs on delay
mode and a slice on the Fireworx.. but its not the same.





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</div>I have owned several Emu 19&quot; modules but IMO, they sounds a litt=
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dated compared to more recent rack units. <font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Sjaak Overgaauw</font></blockquote><div><br>Im sure you are right Sjaak, I =
have heard this myself... it didnt deter me too much cos I have never been =
able to afford &quot;the latest things&quot; and Im not really sure what da=
ted means. I still use the EDP for example. ha ha! By the time most of my s=
ound sources hit the mixer, they have been effected to f*** and enjoy mis-t=
reating old gear and spend hours tweaking and mangling patches. I am certai=
nly going to be reading up on all the interesting alternative you have quot=
ed however. My suggestion was merely meant as something one can get quite c=
heap nowadays.<br>

<br>The Receptor really looks like a cool box, but I wil never afford one i=
n my wildest dreams, so I dont go there!!!! I would however be interested i=
n a box with hard drive, with enough space to keep a bunch of VSTs in, that=
 you can load one at a time. Preferably with a bunch of programmable knobs =
right there... I want something where I load a VST, configure the knobs to =
what that instrument needs, and then save it, for later recall.<br>

I can use my Fireworx for most things, but I have made s few cool VSTs in m=
y time, and would love them in my rack!=A0 One such is the Tap-slicer.. a s=
licer VST where the &quot;holes&quot; that the slice makes are filled in by=
 delay from just before the slice.. in multiple taps.. Can nearly do it usi=
ng 2 EDPs on delay mode and a slice on the Fireworx.. but its not the same.=
<br>

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> My suggestion was merely meant as something one can get quite cheap nowadays.

If you plan to mangle the sounds with FX, the Emu Proteus series is
definitely interesting. Btw: one of my favourite Emu modules was the
Vintage Keys (plus), imo one of the best "analog imitation" modules
around at the time. Lot's of cool (I think) Emulator samples :)

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Wow=2C

so much good info once again on here =2C thanks to all....and keep it comin=
g...the more you know ...etc!!

The VSTi thing has turned out to be a bit of a rred hering to me at the mom=
ent=2C it dosnt give me what i need yet really.=20

the sound synth and sampler modules are starting to really interest me i am=
 ebaying and youtubing in tamdem and think i will pick up some fun quirky b=
oxes to work with=2C i liked the look of the Mo Fat synth module and expand=
ing it with the techno card they do...looks like a good way to get new tone=
s.

I went home last night and worked on the handsonic microkorg xl combination=
 and it worked like a dream. very simple setup which gives me a huge

80 potential user defined scales to play with=2C im just trying to work out=
 how best ot organise them!!! massivly happy with this find tho.

next thought on this is that i could probably look for a korg micro sampler=
 which with the addition of some downloaded samples would let me create som=
e fantastic new kits and ethnic stuff ( hang drum is what i am reeeeeallly =
gagging for)  the only thing i wish the handsonic could to is switch betwee=
n a few samples depending on velocity this would let me strike soft and get=
 hang drum tones or harder to get more percussive slaps...is there any way =
to set this up?

thanks for all your help and keep the info comeing=2C i love learning this =
stuff.

phill

From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Thu=2C 19 Nov 2009 13:15:51 +0100
Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out on the road
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com





I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO=2C they sounds a little

dated compared to more recent rack units.=20

Sjaak Overgaauw
Im sure you are right Sjaak=2C I have heard this myself... it didnt deter m=
e too much cos I have never been able to afford "the latest things" and Im =
not really sure what dated means. I still use the EDP for example. ha ha! B=
y the time most of my sound sources hit the mixer=2C they have been effecte=
d to f*** and enjoy mis-treating old gear and spend hours tweaking and mang=
ling patches. I am certainly going to be reading up on all the interesting =
alternative you have quoted however. My suggestion was merely meant as some=
thing one can get quite cheap nowadays.



The Receptor really looks like a cool box=2C but I wil never afford one in =
my wildest dreams=2C so I dont go there!!!! I would however be interested i=
n a box with hard drive=2C with enough space to keep a bunch of VSTs in=2C =
that you can load one at a time. Preferably with a bunch of programmable kn=
obs right there... I want something where I load a VST=2C configure the kno=
bs to what that instrument needs=2C and then save it=2C for later recall.


I can use my Fireworx for most things=2C but I have made s few cool VSTs in=
 my time=2C and would love them in my rack!  One such is the Tap-slicer.. a=
 slicer VST where the "holes" that the slice makes are filled in by delay f=
rom just before the slice.. in multiple taps.. Can nearly do it using 2 EDP=
s on delay mode and a slice on the Fireworx.. but its not the same.







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Wow=2C<br><br>so much good info once again on here =2C thanks to all....and=
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ed out to be a bit of a rred hering to me at the moment=2C it dosnt give me=
 what i need yet really. <br><br>the sound synth and sampler modules are st=
arting to really interest me i am ebaying and youtubing in tamdem and think=
 i will pick up some fun quirky boxes to work with=2C i liked the look of t=
he Mo Fat synth module and expanding it with the techno card they do...look=
s like a good way to get new tones.<br><br>I went home last night and worke=
d on the handsonic microkorg xl combination and it worked like a dream. ver=
y simple setup which gives me a huge<br><br>80 potential user defined scale=
s to play with=2C im just trying to work out how best ot organise them!!! m=
assivly happy with this find tho.<br><br>next thought on this is that i cou=
ld probably look for a korg micro sampler which with the addition of some d=
ownloaded samples would let me create some fantastic new kits and ethnic st=
uff ( hang drum is what i am reeeeeallly gagging for)&nbsp=3B the only thin=
g i wish the handsonic could to is switch between a few samples depending o=
n velocity this would let me strike soft and get hang drum tones or harder =
to get more percussive slaps...is there any way to set this up?<br><br>than=
ks for all your help and keep the info comeing=2C i love learning this stuf=
f.<br><br>phill<br><br><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">From: mark@markfrancombe.com=
<br>Date: Thu=2C 19 Nov 2009 13:15:51 +0100<br>Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out=
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I have heard this myself... it didnt deter me too much cos I have never bee=
n able to afford "the latest things" and Im not really sure what dated mean=
s. I still use the EDP for example. ha ha! By the time most of my sound sou=
rces hit the mixer=2C they have been effected to f*** and enjoy mis-treatin=
g old gear and spend hours tweaking and mangling patches. I am certainly go=
ing to be reading up on all the interesting alternative you have quoted how=
ever. My suggestion was merely meant as something one can get quite cheap n=
owadays.<br>

<br>The Receptor really looks like a cool box=2C but I wil never afford one=
 in my wildest dreams=2C so I dont go there!!!! I would however be interest=
ed in a box with hard drive=2C with enough space to keep a bunch of VSTs in=
=2C that you can load one at a time. Preferably with a bunch of programmabl=
e knobs right there... I want something where I load a VST=2C configure the=
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I can use my Fireworx for most things=2C but I have made s few cool VSTs in=
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cer.. a slicer VST where the "holes" that the slice makes are filled in by =
delay from just before the slice.. in multiple taps.. Can nearly do it usin=
g 2 EDPs on delay mode and a slice on the Fireworx.. but its not the same.<=
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Sjaak said:
> I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO, they sounds a little dated
"I have owned a Steinway Model D but IMO, it sounds a little dated..."

Some synths tend to sound dated after a while. Good ones don't. Of
course, to keep the things from sounding dated may require you to
actually invest the time and brains to get into programming some
sounds yourself. E-mu's Proteus series modules (especially the later
ones) offer great possibilities for that.

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Sjaak said:
> I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO, they sounds a little dated
"I have owned a Steinway Model D but IMO, it sounds a little dated..."

Some synths tend to sound dated after a while. Good ones don't. Of
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actually invest the time and brains to get into programming some
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just because it has come up, I have a Sonic Cell, barely used that I'm  
looking to sell. It's up here in Canada, so there could be duties to  
pay to send it across the border.
No problems with it, I just couldn't use it with my guitar synth in  
the way I had hoped and went to using Reason instead.

Paul Haslem




Quoting Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>:

> Sjaak said:
>> I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO, they sounds a little dated
> "I have owned a Steinway Model D but IMO, it sounds a little dated..."
>
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> course, to keep the things from sounding dated may require you to
> actually invest the time and brains to get into programming some
> sounds yourself. E-mu's Proteus series modules (especially the later
> ones) offer great possibilities for that.
>
>



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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Rainer Straschill
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> Some synths tend to sound dated after a while. Good ones don't. Of
> course, to keep the things from sounding dated may require you to
> actually invest the time and brains to get into programming some
> sounds yourself. E-mu's Proteus series modules (especially the later
> ones) offer great possibilities for that.

The early Emu models like the Procussion and the Proteus 1 sound a
little flat IMO, but with fx, Eq and compression, they came to live in
a mix. Also, the avg quality of rom samples is better now than in the
late 80's and 90's so that another reason...if you are looking for
real instruments sounds like piano, trumpets. Especially piano's are a
good example of how technology has improved.

Anyway, that's what I mean with "dated", not saying that every synth
has to sound like the real deal which was clearly THE trend in the
80's and 90's. Once the VA's and analog synths were becoming popular
in the mid 90's, the "best rompler synth" race was more or less
over...but that's another story :)
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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:
> Proteus 1 sound a
> little flat IMO


I still have my old Proteus 1 that I ordered direct from USA in the
eighties before any Scandinavian companies picked importing the unit.
The "crappy" sound has a certain charm to it. A warning though, the
Proteus has a rather slow MIDI response. I could work around that when
sequencing it, but for live playing I'm not sure it totally measures
up. Today I have to use it with a computer because the unit's LCD
window has grown unreadable ;-) The P1 offers powerful sound patch
programming options but I remember I kind of missed a good sounding
LFO controlled resonance filter.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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> another reason...if you are looking for real instruments 
> sounds like piano, trumpets. Especially piano's are a good 
> example of how technology has improved.

If I remember correctly, Phil was looking for "synth sounds" (meaning
"synthetic", not emulations of acoustic instruments) and drums/world
percussion. The E-mu series (which wasn't my recommendation btw) is fine for
the synth stuff due to the flexibility of its engine. And I daresay that
even drums and world percussion sound fine if e.g. a Proteus 2000 is
expanded with the Protean Drums and World Expedition soundsets.
Even though those are only 32MB for everything together, sound editors were
quite skillful in these days when it came to squeeze the most out of a very
limited amount of memory available, making use of the possibilities of the
engine (e.g. complex envelopes, loops - hey, we even to this thread
on-topic! ;))
 
> Anyway, that's what I mean with "dated", not saying that 
> every synth has to sound like the real deal which was clearly 
> THE trend in the 80's and 90's. Once the VA's and analog 

Then again, sometimes the cheap copy of a real instrument by a synth becomes
a kind of "real deal" by itself. Examples are the DX7 electric piano (still
very much in use e.g. in hiphop jazz) and the heavily compressed grand piano
of the M1 (the standard piano sound for house).

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> ;-) The P1 offers powerful sound patch programming options but I 
> remember I kind of missed a good sounding LFO controlled resonance 
> filter.

The first generation Proteus lacked that, yes. That was due to the fact that
the earlier samplers by E-Mu (Emulator and Emax series) all had analogue
filters (up to and including the flagship EIII), so in the first-generation
Proteus (which was based on the EIII architecture), powerful filters were
missing. (And yes, those analogue filters were the deal!)

However, the ESi-32 (basically, a "consumer" version of the EIII) had an
ASIC circuit for simulating analogue filters. These algorithms were later
enhanced, called "Z-Plane filters" and found their way into the Proteus
product line via the Morpheus and most of the followups (Ultra Proteus,
Proteus 2000, Audigy and all of their spinoffs).

Btw, if there's someone looking for an ESi-32 - I believe I still have a
fully expanded one in my basement, together with a SCSI enclosure
(HDD+CD-ROM) and some E-Mu libraries on CD-ROM...

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GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY:                   http://galactictravels.info
=======================================================================
Tonight at 11 pm (EST/GMT-5/ITZ-5) on Galactic Travels, I'll continue
the month-long Special Focus on Fanger and Schonwalder.  The Featured
CD at Midnight will be disk one from "Analog Overdose 2" on Manikin
Records.  For details, see the Special Focus page at:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#nov

On tonight's show, you will hear new music from Redshift, Free System
Projekt with Brendan Pollard and Hashtronaut, and Create.

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and
Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1
FM.  Listen at http://is.gd/37vNQ on the internet.

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Hello there, Steve Uccello here again just sending out a reminder about a l=
ooping laden house concert that I'm doing soon...

-Uccello Project, live full length show
-Time: Saturday, December 12th, 2009 =A0- 7:30 pm
-Place: House Concert In Seaside, CA (USA)
-contact: email stevebassbird@yahoo.com=A0
-or call 831-801-4920 for details=09=A0-details: Price: $12 (includes show/=
drinks/snacks!)=A0
Background: =A0I just performed at the Y2K9 International Live Looping Fest=
ival, and I have also shared the stage with loopers such=0A as Joe Craven a=
nd Steve Lawson. This will be the first full length show by Uccello Project=
 and will feature me on Upright/Dobro Basses, and Acoustic Guitar. -There w=
ill also be a few special guests sitting in!
Also, I invite you to visit my blog and hear my new record, Symmetria, in i=
t's entirety, Free:
http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/=A0
...here's a couple blurbs about it:
Symmetria=0Aby the Uccello Project is a gorgeous, instrumental and largely=
=0Aunclassifiable record. Best thought of as 'cinematic', each of the=0Atra=
cks conjures up a range of emotions and images, taking the listener=0Aon a =
beautiful journey. The layers of basses, guitars and percussion=0Aebb and f=
low, drawing on jazz, folk, blues and African music, blending=0Aall the ele=
ments into one lovely album. Recommended.Steve Lawson (Aug 18, 2009)
I=0Ajust received the first Uccello Project CD, 'Symmetria' in the mail=0At=
oday. =A0I was really taken by the track 'Chiral' and by the records=0Aintr=
iguing blend=A0of acoustic and electric guitars and bass guitars,=0Aguitarr=
on, mandolin, gongs, hand drums,=A0drumset, harp and flutes all=0Aplayed by=
 talented multi-instrumentalist, live looper,=A0Steve Uccello.=0AThe record=
 has beautiful ambient passages, composed tunes=A0and even=0Aveers into exp=
erimnental and almost dark ambient territory. =A0A=0Avery=A0impressive firs=
t effort. =A0I look forward to hearing what this=0Atalented musician=A0has =
to play at =A0the Y2K9 looping festival for the=0Afirst time this year.Rick=
 Walker, composer/lo fi, toy video artist/found sound/live looper, Founder:=
 Y2K International Live Looping Festivals (Aug 28, 2009)

Thanks for your time-
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><div>Hello there, Steve Uccello here again ju=
st sending out a reminder about a looping laden house concert that I'm doin=
g soon...<br><br>-Uccello Project, live full length show</div><div><br></di=
v><div>-Time: Saturday, December 12th, 2009 &nbsp;- 7:30 pm</div><div><br><=
/div><div>-Place: House Concert In Seaside, CA (USA)</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>-contact: email stevebassbird@yahoo.com&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>-=
or call <span style=3D"border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: =
pointer;" class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1258668253_0">831-801-4920</span> f=
or details</div><div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space: p=
re;">=09</span>&nbsp;</div><div>-details: Price: $12 (includes show/drinks/=
snacks!)&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Background: &nbsp;I just performed =
at the Y2K9 International Live <span class=3D"yshortcuts"
 id=3D"lw_1258668253_1">Looping</span> Festival, and I have also shared the=
 stage with loopers such=0A as <span style=3D"border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb=
(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer;" class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1258668253_2=
">Joe Craven</span> and <span style=3D"border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb(0, 102=
, 204); cursor: pointer;" class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1258668253_3">Steve=
 Lawson</span>. This will be the first full length show by Uccello Project =
and will feature me on Upright/Dobro <span style=3D"border-bottom: 1px dash=
ed rgb(0, 102, 204); cursor: pointer;" class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_125866=
8253_4">Basses</span>, and <span class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1258668253_5=
">Acoustic Guitar</span>. -There will also be a few special guests sitting =
in!</div><div><br></div><div>Also, I invite you to visit my blog and hear m=
y new record, Symmetria, in it's entirety, Free:</div><div><br></div><div><=
a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/"><span=
 class=3D"yshortcuts"
 id=3D"lw_1258668253_6">http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/</span></a>=
&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>...here's a couple blurbs about it:</div><d=
iv><br></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: 'n=
ormal Verdana',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(51, =
51, 51); line-height: 15px;"><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 9px=
 0px; font-style: italic;"><p style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 15px 1=
0px;"><span style=3D"margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: mceinline;">Sy=
mmetria=0Aby the Uccello Project is a gorgeous, instrumental and largely=0A=
unclassifiable record. Best thought of as 'cinematic', each of the=0Atracks=
 conjures up a range of emotions and images, taking the listener=0Aon a bea=
utiful journey. The layers of basses, guitars and percussion=0Aebb and flow=
, drawing on jazz, folk, blues and African music, blending=0Aall the elemen=
ts into one lovely album. Recommended.</span></p></blockquote><div class=3D=
"caption" style=3D"margin: 0px 40px; padding: 0px; font-weight: bold;">Stev=
e Lawson (Aug 18, 2009)</div><div class=3D"caption" style=3D"margin: 0px 40=
px; padding: 0px; font-weight: bold;"><br></div><div class=3D"caption" styl=
e=3D"margin: 0px 40px; padding: 0px; font-weight: bold;"><span class=3D"App=
le-style-span" style=3D"font-weight: normal; font-style: italic;">I=0Ajust =
received the first Uccello Project CD, 'Symmetria' in the mail=0Atoday. &nb=
sp;I was really taken by the track 'Chiral' and by the records=0Aintriguing=
 blend&nbsp;of acoustic and <span class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1258668253_=
7">electric guitars</span> and <span class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_12586682=
53_8">bass guitars</span>,=0Aguitarron, mandolin, gongs, hand drums,&nbsp;d=
rumset, harp and flutes all=0Aplayed by talented multi-instrumentalist, liv=
e looper,&nbsp;Steve Uccello.=0AThe record has beautiful ambient passages, =
composed tunes&nbsp;and even=0Aveers into experimnental and almost dark amb=
ient territory. &nbsp;A=0Avery&nbsp;impressive first effort. &nbsp;I look f=
orward to hearing what this=0Atalented musician&nbsp;has to play at &nbsp;t=
he Y2K9 looping festival for the=0Afirst time this year.</span></div><div c=
lass=3D"caption" style=3D"margin: 0px 40px; padding: 0px; font-weight: bold=
;"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-weight: normal;"><div cla=
ss=3D"caption" style=3D"margin: 0px 40px; padding: 0px; font-weight: bold;"=
><span class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1258668253_9">Rick Walker</span>, comp=
oser/lo fi, toy video artist/found sound/live looper, Founder: Y2K Internat=
ional Live Looping Festivals (Aug 28, 2009)</div></span></div></span></div>=
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your time-<br></div></td></tr=
></table><br>=0A=0A      
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UNITED NATIONS ORGANIZATION IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND WORLD BANK FACT-FINDING & SPECIAL DUTIES OFFICE Office of The Director Special duties.Cotonou,Republic of Benin
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thanks guys...that's what i was looking for.

rme is overkill in terms of both price and function.  i need at most 4 i/o,
so m-audio is probably the way to go...and i've owned their gear before and
it seems to perform pretty well.

per - you actually answered a question that i didn't ask but meant to: is it
better to process midi outside of the sound card?  you seem to suggest that
it is "optimal" to have the sound card do sound only.  am i understanding
you correctly?

thanks again.

- jim

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thanks guys...that&#39;s what i was looking for.<br><br>rme is overkill in =
terms of both price and function.=A0 i need at most 4 i/o, so m-audio is pr=
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<br>per - you actually answered a question that i didn&#39;t ask but meant =
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.=A0 am i understanding you correctly?<br>
<br>thanks again.<br><br>- jim<br>

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will however accept your offer based on my 
conditions. Please reply to my private email 
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On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:21 AM, james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com> wrote:
> per - you actually answered a question that i didn't ask but meant to: is=
 it
> better to process midi outside of the sound card?=C2=A0 you seem to sugge=
st that
> it is "optimal" to have the sound card do sound only.=C2=A0 am i understa=
nding
> you correctly?

Nothing is "optimal" or "better". All gear is different. One
manufacturer may put out a software driver that makes audio buzz if
MIDI #CC is streaming through the device, but next month a fully
working driver is released. You never know until it hits you.
Personally I am cautious with technology and appreciate keeping my rig
as much as possible in a modular setup so one temporary flaw won't
hurt functionality by other regards.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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wow

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this is just getting more and more intreguing!!

=20

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so whats would you be looking at now if you had a budget of =A3400 - $600 g=
o ebaying for old stuff or look at something like the korg microsampler?

=20

i cant get my head around the specs=2C i live in a world where my nintendo =
DS has a 16 GB micro SD card in it =2C yet many of the samplers im looking =
at quote 64mb  UPGRADABLE TO 128mb...like i should be jaw agog!!

=20

surely someone in the tech world is still making this kind of stuff?=20

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the irony is=2C i think i know the answer and its.....yup.on a laptop!!!!

=20

oh dear

=20

Phill
=20
> Date: Thu=2C 19 Nov 2009 11:27:23 -0500
> From: phaslem@wightman.ca
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: RE: Taking VSTs out on the road
>=20
> just because it has come up=2C I have a Sonic Cell=2C barely used that I'=
m=20
> looking to sell. It's up here in Canada=2C so there could be duties to=20
> pay to send it across the border.
> No problems with it=2C I just couldn't use it with my guitar synth in=20
> the way I had hoped and went to using Reason instead.
>=20
> Paul Haslem
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Quoting Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>:
>=20
> > Sjaak said:
> >> I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO=2C they sounds a little d=
ated
> > "I have owned a Steinway Model D but IMO=2C it sounds a little dated...=
"
> >
> > Some synths tend to sound dated after a while. Good ones don't. Of
> > course=2C to keep the things from sounding dated may require you to
> > actually invest the time and brains to get into programming some
> > sounds yourself. E-mu's Proteus series modules (especially the later
> > ones) offer great possibilities for that.
> >
> >
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wow<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
this is just getting more and more intreguing!!<BR>
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&nbsp=3B<BR>
so whats would you be looking&nbsp=3Bat&nbsp=3Bnow if you had a budget of =
=A3400 - $600 go ebaying for old&nbsp=3Bstuff or look at something like the=
 korg microsampler?<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
i cant get my head around the specs=2C i live in a world where my nintendo =
DS has a 16 GB&nbsp=3Bmicro SD card in it =2C yet many of the samplers im l=
ooking at quote 64mb&nbsp=3B UPGRADABLE TO 128mb...like i should be jaw ago=
g!!<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
surely someone&nbsp=3Bin the tech world is still making this kind of stuff?=
 <BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
the irony is=2C i think i know the answer and its.....yup.on a laptop!!!!<B=
R>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
oh dear<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
Phill<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>&gt=3B Date: Thu=2C 19 Nov 2009 11:27:23 -0500<BR>&gt=
=3B From: phaslem@wightman.ca<BR>&gt=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=
.com<BR>&gt=3B Subject: RE: Taking VSTs out on the road<BR>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=
=3B just because it has come up=2C I have a Sonic Cell=2C barely used that =
I'm <BR>&gt=3B looking to sell. It's up here in Canada=2C so there could be=
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l Haslem<BR>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=3B Quoting Rain=
er Straschill &lt=3Bmoinsound@googlemail.com&gt=3B:<BR>&gt=3B <BR>&gt=3B &g=
t=3B Sjaak said:<BR>&gt=3B &gt=3B&gt=3B I have owned several Emu 19" module=
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einway Model D but IMO=2C it sounds a little dated..."<BR>&gt=3B &gt=3B<BR>=
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If your dead set against it, thats fine. But, you have know idea how =20
cool it can be.
On Nov 20, 2009, at 10:22 AM, phillip wilson wrote:

> wow
>
> this is just getting more and more intreguing!!
>
>
> so whats would you be looking at now if you had a budget of =A3400 - =20=

> $600 go ebaying for old stuff or look at something like the korg =20
> microsampler?
>
> i cant get my head around the specs, i live in a world where my =20
> nintendo DS has a 16 GB micro SD card in it , yet many of the =20
> samplers im looking at quote 64mb  UPGRADABLE TO 128mb...like i =20
> should be jaw agog!!
>
> surely someone in the tech world is still making this kind of stuff?
>
> the irony is, i think i know the answer and its.....yup.on a =20
> laptop!!!!
>
> oh dear
>
> Phill
>
> > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:27:23 -0500
> > From: phaslem@wightman.ca
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Subject: RE: Taking VSTs out on the road
> >
> > just because it has come up, I have a Sonic Cell, barely used =20
> that I'm
> > looking to sell. It's up here in Canada, so there could be duties to
> > pay to send it across the border.
> > No problems with it, I just couldn't use it with my guitar synth in
> > the way I had hoped and went to using Reason instead.
> >
> > Paul Haslem
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>:
> >
> > > Sjaak said:
> > >> I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO, they sounds a =20
> little dated
> > > "I have owned a Steinway Model D but IMO, it sounds a little =20
> dated..."
> > >
> > > Some synths tend to sound dated after a while. Good ones don't. Of
> > > course, to keep the things from sounding dated may require you to
> > > actually invest the time and brains to get into programming some
> > > sounds yourself. E-mu's Proteus series modules (especially the =20
> later
> > > ones) offer great possibilities for that.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email =20
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If your dead set against it, thats fine. But, you have know idea how =
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looking=A0at=A0now if you had a budget of =A3400 - $600 go ebaying for =
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href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@looper=
s-delight.com</a><br>> Subject: RE: Taking VSTs out on the =
road<br>><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0</span><br>> just =
because it has come up, I have a Sonic Cell, barely used that I'm<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0</span><br>> looking to sell. It's up =
here in Canada, so there could be duties to<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0</span><br>> pay to send it across =
the border.<br>> No problems with it, I just couldn't use it with my =
guitar synth in<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0</span><br>> the =
way I had hoped and went to using Reason instead.<br>><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0</span><br>> Paul Haslem<br>><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0</span><br>><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0</span><br>><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0</span><br>><span =
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>><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0</span><br>> > Sjaak =
said:<br>> >> I have owned several Emu 19" modules but IMO, they sounds =
a little dated<br>> > "I have owned a Steinway Model D but IMO, it =
sounds a little dated..."<br>> ><br>> > Some synths tend to sound dated =
after a while. Good ones don't. Of<br>> > course, to keep the things =
from sounding dated may require you to<br>> > actually invest the time =
and brains to get into programming some<br>> > sounds yourself. E-mu's =
Proteus series modules (especially the later<br>> > ones) offer great =
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> so whats would you be looking at now if you had a budget of =A3400 - =
$600 go
ebaying for old stuff or look at something like the korg microsampler?

So that's a budget of $600-$660 ;)? I will now assume you meant to type
$400-$600...
	=20
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nintendo
DS has a 16 GB micro SD card in it , yet many of the samplers im looking =
at=20
> surely someone in the tech world is still making this kind of stuff?=20

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from
the market. People who had been using something like an Akai S series, =
E-Mu
Emulator or similar in a studio setting in the past use a computer =
today.
Example: NI Kontakt 4. People who used one onstage use a synth =
workstation
where you can load samples (those devices don't have a sampling option,
because - yes, you guessed right - people use a computer for this). =
Example:
Roland Fantom XR.
The only hardware samplers (being things that not only can playback but =
also
record samples) seem to be aimed at the more beat-oriented/DJ crowd - =
apart
frm things like a Roland SP-555, there' still the Akai MPC series.

> the irony is, i think i know the answer and its.....yup.on a =
laptop!!!!

Here, you said it yourself...

Ah, and if that weren't enough, storing and transferring data with those
older devices is often a hassle. The standard for this used to be SCSI
(which means SCSI harddisk and SCSI interface for your computer).

Perhaps the simple solution really IS to use a sound module with sounds =
you
like, and go with that...;)

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http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/091119.html

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                Show #659                November 19, 2009.

RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Fanger and
Schonwalder.  The Featured CD at Midnight was disk one from Analog
Overdose 2 on Manikin Records.

Fanger and Schonwalder:
http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#nov


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Kevin Braheny        Starflight 1 *       Galaxies (Hearts of Space)
Create               SlaveTo the Groove   Words Just Get In the Way (none)
Free System Projekt, Exodus               Time Out of Mind (Acoustic
  Brendan Pollard,                          Wave)
  and  Hashtronaut
Redshift             Shift To Blue        RE Three (Distant Sun)

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Fanger & Schonwalder The Art of           Analog Overdose 2 (Manikin)
                       Sequencing Part 1
Fanger & Schonwalder Zwischenton          Analog Overdose 2 (Manikin)
Fanger & Schonwalder The Art of           Analog Overdose 2 (Manikin)
                       Sequencing Part 1

1:00 am

 * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
-- = Background music under interview


NEXT SHOW:
On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on
Fanger and Schonwalder.  The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk two
from Analog Overdose 2 on Manikin Records.

Bill
=======================================================================
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If really sampled sounds is important then waldorf blofeld or clavia 
nordwave (+expensive) are solutions too.
At least you still have some synthesis power when needed which might not be 
the case whith a sp555 for instance.
The blofeld seems a bargain but I haven't tried it yet.

Ben.


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> so whats would you be looking at now if you had a budget of £400 - $600 go
ebaying for old stuff or look at something like the korg microsampler?

So that's a budget of $600-$660 ;)? I will now assume you meant to type
$400-$600...

> i cant get my head around the specs, i live in a world where my nintendo
DS has a 16 GB micro SD card in it , yet many of the samplers im looking at
> surely someone in the tech world is still making this kind of stuff?

Let's face it: the high-quality hardware sampler has (almost) vanished from
the market. People who had been using something like an Akai S series, E-Mu
Emulator or similar in a studio setting in the past use a computer today.
Example: NI Kontakt 4. People who used one onstage use a synth workstation
where you can load samples (those devices don't have a sampling option,
because - yes, you guessed right - people use a computer for this). Example:
Roland Fantom XR.
The only hardware samplers (being things that not only can playback but also
record samples) seem to be aimed at the more beat-oriented/DJ crowd - apart
frm things like a Roland SP-555, there' still the Akai MPC series.

> the irony is, i think i know the answer and its.....yup.on a laptop!!!!

Here, you said it yourself...

Ah, and if that weren't enough, storing and transferring data with those
older devices is often a hassle. The standard for this used to be SCSI
(which means SCSI harddisk and SCSI interface for your computer).

Perhaps the simple solution really IS to use a sound module with sounds you
like, and go with that...;)

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'The Strand' on the BBC aired an interview with Bill Frisell and Mike Gibbs yesterday which you can hear at <http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/arts/> (Click on "Strand Thursday")

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Listened to it at work today.

Interesting project - one I'll wanna hear when it's done.

Thanks for sharing the link.

I might not have known about it otherwise.

On Nov 20, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Tim Nelson wrote:

> 'The Strand' on the BBC aired an interview with Bill Frisell and  
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THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH:                      http://soundscapes.us/amfm
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My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, November 7 at 6 am
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http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2009/091121.html

The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts.  When I am at the helm, expect
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                Show #161                November 21, 2009.

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ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
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Fanger & Schonwalder Frankfurt Breakfast  Analog Overdose 4+ (Manikin)
VA [Andy Pickford]   untitled             Sequences No. 7
VA [Wavestar]        Wavestar             Sequences No. 7
VA [Steve Charlton]  untitled             Sequences No. 7
VA [Sean Spence]     untitled             Sequences No. 7
Arcane               Invisible City       Tomorrow's Wasteland (none)


Phase II/Eclectic:

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Terry Oldfield       Footprint of         Tears for Tibet (New Earth)
                       Buddha's Children
9Muses               Cool Water           Feel To Heal (Blue Amazon)


Phase III/Progressive Rock:

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Harmonia             Watussi              Musik von Harmonia (Brain)
Engineers            Clean Coloured Wire  Three Fact Fader (Kscope)
IZZ                  Swaloow Our Pride    The Darkened Room (Doone)
IZZ                  Day of Innocence     The Darkened Room (Doone)
IZZ                  Regret               The Darkened Room (Doone)
Sylvan               Force of Gravity     Force of Gravity (ProgRock)
The Tangent          The Company Car      Down and Out in Paris and
                                            London (InsideOut)


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VA = Various Artists (compilation)

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Bill
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Very neat stuff.

Anybody know a way to download the interview?


ted.
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--- On Fri, 11/20/09, Tim Nelson <psychle62@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Tim Nelson <psychle62@yahoo.com>
Subject: Frisell interview
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Received: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:41 PM

'The Strand' on the BBC aired an interview with Bill Frisell and Mike Gibbs=
 yesterday which you can hear at <http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/arts/> =
(Click on "Strand Thursday")

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> 'The Strand' on the BBC aired an interview with Bill Frisell and Mike
Gibbs yesterday 
> which you can hear at http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/arts/ 

"...today, American country guitarist Bill Frisell..." ;)

Did I get this right that BBC will make the concert recording available
online? Anyone has experiences with their service?

	Rainer

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-t-

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Anybody know a way to download the interview?


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Rainer Straschill wrote:
>> 'The Strand' on the BBC aired an interview with Bill Frisell and Mike
> Gibbs yesterday 
>> which you can hear at http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/arts/ 
> 
> "...today, American country guitarist Bill Frisell..." ;)
> 
> Did I get this right that BBC will make the concert recording available
> online? 

Collage for a day by Bill Frisell and Mike Gibbs can be heard in 'Afternoon on 3' on BBC Radio 3 on Tuesday 24 November, 1400 GMT and streamed online via BBC iPlayer at bbc.co.uk/radio3 and available to listen again for seven days.

>Anyone has experiences with their service?

huh....it's the BBC



andy

> 
> 	Rainer
> 
> 

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Or WireTap Pro (on the Mac).

On Nov 21, 2009, at 9:14 AM, Tim Nelson wrote:

> You could record the stream into a recording app like Soundforge or  
> Audacity.
>
> -t-
>
> --- On Sat, 11/21/09, ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Anybody know a way to download the interview?
>
>
> --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Tim Nelson <psychle62@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> 'The Strand' on the BBC aired an interview with Bill Frisell and  
> Mike Gibbs yesterday which you can hear at <http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/arts/ 
> > (Click on "Strand Thursday")
>
> -t-
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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all lot of bbc stuff is available as "Podcast".
Likely the interview is available, I dunnow I 
didn't want to install i-Tunes just to download  mp3s
so that part of their service is something of a mystery.

Right now the bbc site is offline, presumably because
millions of Brits are trying to watch Dr Who on bbc iPlayer.
...but that should clear when they all "go down the pub" in 
an hour or so.

Or "record streaming audio" could be googled to find software
to record the stream to file as it comes in (though I guess
those don't send compressed audio direct to disk).

I've always used my soundcard routing if I wanted to record streams,
although to record from bbc I prefer the higher quality of
the FM radio broadcast. 

andy butler


ditch wrestler wrote:
> 
> Very neat stuff.
> 
> Anybody know a way to download the interview?
> 
> 
> ted.
> Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog
> 
> --- On *Fri, 11/20/09, Tim Nelson /<psychle62@yahoo.com>/* wrote:
> 
> 
>     From: Tim Nelson <psychle62@yahoo.com>
>     Subject: Frisell interview
>     To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>     Received: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:41 PM
> 
>     'The Strand' on the BBC aired an interview with Bill Frisell and
>     Mike Gibbs yesterday which you can hear at
>     <http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/arts/> (Click on "Strand Thursday")
> 
>     -t-
> 
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im sure this is common sense when it comes to banks account and email-

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but when visiting internet cafes....be sure to log out of your youtube acco=
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live and learn.....and share what you learn

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Great vids=2C Fro! --Especially liked "How you Waste it"
J.D.Devros
deafrose58

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Date: Wed=2C 18 Nov 2009 22:02:30 -0600









no problemo my friend =3Bo)

thankyou for watching them and thankyou for taking time to send some love m=
y way-

even though i wish i could be self sufficient and give myself all the motiv=
ation i needed to survive as an artist=2C hearing back from complete strang=
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and thus you are no longer a stranger=2C but a valued friend-

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cheers!

fro




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From: nemoguitt@aol.com




"The Sermon"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_jjoVO9Jzw

"How you waste it"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbrZp4tMcsmA






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I'm pleased to announce that the ensemble I premiered at the first
annual Virtual
Sound & Vision <http://www.myspace.com/vsvfestival> festival during early
October is returning to the virtual stage later this morning at 11am
EST/1500 UTC on uStream.  I'm speaking of the trio of *Jim Goodin/Peter
Thorn/Ray Istorico *featuring a collective improvisational gathering of oud,
violin, guitar, saxophone, nyckelharpa and electronic drums.  Technology
permitting we'll be coming at you over my uStream channel Sunday Morning at
11 <http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11>.

I say technology permitting as we're fusing NinJam and uStream.  Peter is
coming from rural Sweden, Ray here in the States in Florida and I'm in New
York.  I tried this setup for the first time during the October festival and
though not perfect re the feed it was more than not and I think I have since
worked out all the glitches to combine all of our elements in stable form.

In that the foundation of this gathering is NinJam audio only our ustream
picture content will consist of video from our own *Emile Tobenfeld* and
some other still images not yet decided on.  At some point I hope to have
all of us on camera but that's still in the planning stages so for the time
being think of it as strange television or a short film.

So please join us this morning (Nov 22) at 11am EST/1500 UTC at
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11.  For times in your
locale see http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/.

Jim

-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
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social networking...
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am picture content will consist of video from our own <i>Emile Tobenfeld</i=
> and some other still images not yet decided on.=A0 At some point I hope t=
o have all of us on camera but that&#39;s still in the planning stages so f=
or the time being think of it as strange television or a short film.<br>
<br>So please join us this morning (Nov 22) at 11am EST/1500 UTC at <a href=
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tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11</a>.=A0 For times in your locale see <a hre=
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ldclock/</a>.<br>
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br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><b=
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odinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
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<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
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w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
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I was at that gig.

Frisell was incredible.

Jim

On 21 Nov 2009, at 16:47, ditch wrestler wrote:

>
> Very neat stuff.
>
> Anybody know a way to download the interview?
>
>
> ted.
> Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog
>
> --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Tim Nelson <psychle62@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: Tim Nelson <psychle62@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Frisell interview
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Received: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:41 PM
>
> 'The Strand' on the BBC aired an interview with Bill Frisell and  
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> > (Click on "Strand Thursday")
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> -t-
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interview?<br><br><br>ted.<br>Enemies are good for self-definition. =
Werner Herzog<br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 11/20/09, Tim Nelson <i>&lt;<a =
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Sorry I missed you guys - i was an hour out on my world clock  
calculations!!!!

Matt Stevens
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On 22 Nov 2009, at 06:02, Jim Goodin wrote:

> I'm pleased to announce that the ensemble I premiered at the first  
> annual Virtual Sound & Vision festival during early October is  
> returning to the virtual stage later this morning at 11am EST/1500  
> UTC on uStream.  I'm speaking of the trio of Jim Goodin/Peter Thorn/ 
> Ray Istorico featuring a collective improvisational gathering of  
> oud, violin, guitar, saxophone, nyckelharpa and electronic drums.   
> Technology permitting we'll be coming at you over my uStream  
> channel Sunday Morning at 11.
>
> I say technology permitting as we're fusing NinJam and uStream.   
> Peter is coming from rural Sweden, Ray here in the States in  
> Florida and I'm in New York.  I tried this setup for the first time  
> during the October festival and though not perfect re the feed it  
> was more than not and I think I have since worked out all the  
> glitches to combine all of our elements in stable form.
>
> In that the foundation of this gathering is NinJam audio only our  
> ustream picture content will consist of video from our own Emile  
> Tobenfeld and some other still images not yet decided on.  At some  
> point I hope to have all of us on camera but that's still in the  
> planning stages so for the time being think of it as strange  
> television or a short film.
>
> So please join us this morning (Nov 22) at 11am EST/1500 UTC at  
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11.  For times in  
> your locale see http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/.
>
> Jim
>
> -- 
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural
> www.myspace.com/CtReUse
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.myspace.com/jindream
> www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>


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Sorry I missed you guys - i was an hour out on my world clock =
calculations!!!!<div><br><div> <span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div>Matt =
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net.com</a></div><div><br></div></span><br =
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class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On 22 Nov 2009, =
at 06:02, Jim Goodin wrote:</div><br =
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pleased to announce that the ensemble I premiered at the first annual <a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/vsvfestival">Virtual Sound &amp; =
Vision</a> festival during early October is returning to the virtual =
stage later this morning at 11am EST/1500 UTC on uStream.&nbsp; I'm =
speaking of the trio of <i>Jim Goodin/Peter Thorn/Ray Istorico =
</i>featuring a collective improvisational gathering of oud, violin, =
guitar, saxophone, nyckelharpa and electronic drums.&nbsp; Technology =
permitting we'll be coming at you over my uStream channel <a =
href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11">Sunday =
Morning at 11</a>.<br> <br>I say technology permitting as we're fusing =
NinJam and uStream.&nbsp; Peter is coming from rural Sweden, Ray here in =
the States in Florida and I'm in New York.&nbsp; I tried this setup for =
the first time during the October festival and though not perfect re the =
feed it was more than not and I think I have since worked out all the =
glitches to combine all of our elements in stable form.<br> <br>In that =
the foundation of this gathering is NinJam audio only our ustream =
picture content will consist of video from our own <i>Emile =
Tobenfeld</i> and some other still images not yet decided on.&nbsp; At =
some point I hope to have all of us on camera but that's still in the =
planning stages so for the time being think of it as strange television =
or a short film.<br> <br>So please join us this morning (Nov 22) at 11am =
EST/1500 UTC at <a =
href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11">http://www.ust=
ream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11</a>.&nbsp; For times in your locale =
see <a =
href=3D"http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/">http://www.timeanddate.com=
/worldclock/</a>.<br> <br>Jim<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an =
introspective textural aural<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br><br=
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Hello fellow loopers,

I am currently writing the complete music and noise score for a new  
dance theatre piece called MATKOT by Israelian choreographer Nir de  
Wolff (Total Brutal), vastly with the help of my good old Lexicon  
Jamman, and some self-programmed MAX/MSP Wii-remote looper called  
Laser Dave (more on this sometimes).

MATKOT will be performed
Nov. 28.-30 and  Dec. 4.-6. 2009, 20h30/8.30pm
at Berlin's Dock 11, Kastanienallee 79.

http://www.totalbrutal.net

Matkot is the Hebrew word for beach ball.
The dance piece then is a nicely brutal, yet exploring overdrive of  
your usual beach experience, or what you could make of it next time,  
if you weren't subject to false holiday booking again. World class  
contemporary dancing included.

More details (in Germish)
http://www.dock11-berlin.de/index.php/cat/1/id/p22_Matkot.html

Tickets
ticket@dock11-berlin.de or call 030-4481222 Mo-Fr after 15h/3pm.

Location
http://www.dock11-berlin.de/index.php/cat/c7_Anfahrt.html

I hope to meet some of you there, at the day of the 1st performance on  
Nov. 28.

***jrp
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I like the "silent" aspect of this! Last night I took apart the Pok and
lubed the switch mechanisms with tri-flow. It helped, but those things are
still loud.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:

> hopefully cheaper than the Kbow, yes!
>
> but "normal" footswitches are exactly what i don't want. i'm sold on the
> light rubber pads....or even better...sensor pads
>
>
>
> On Nov 18, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote:
>
> Zoe Keating schrieb:
>>
>>> while i'm in fantasy land....the ability to change the "bank" of the
>>> pedal with my Kbow...and each pad will light up with 1 of 4 colors to t=
ell
>>> me what bank i'm in.
>>> not cheap...but possibly worth it.
>>>
>>
>> Should be possible to build cheaper than a Kbow...;-)
>> On the other hand you could still use normal footswitches and have the
>> visual feedback with a Launchpad or Monome...
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>> --
>> Les Ondes M=E9morielles---------x--
>> --_____-----------|-----------|--
>> --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()-------
>> -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
>> ----------()----------TJ Shredder
>>
>>
>


--=20
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I like the &quot;silent&quot; aspect of this! Last night I took apart the P=
ok and lubed the switch mechanisms with tri-flow. It helped, but those thin=
gs are still loud.<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Zoe Keating <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:info@zoekeating.com">info@zoekeating.=
com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">hopefully cheaper than the Kbow,=
 yes!<br><br>but &quot;normal&quot; footswitches are exactly what i don&#39=
;t want. i&#39;m sold on the light rubber pads....or even better...sensor p=
ads=20
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br><br><br>On Nov 18, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Stefan Tiedje wr=
ote:<br><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Zoe Keating schrieb:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">while i&#39;m in fantasy land...=
.the ability to change the &quot;bank&quot; of the pedal with my Kbow...and=
 each pad will light up with 1 of 4 colors to tell me what bank i&#39;m in.=
<br>
not cheap...but possibly worth it.<br></blockquote><br>Should be possible t=
o build cheaper than a Kbow...;-)<br>On the other hand you could still use =
normal footswitches and have the visual feedback with a Launchpad or Monome=
...<br>
<br>Stefan<br><br><br>-- <br>Les Ondes M=E9morielles---------x--<br>--_____=
-----------|-----------|--<br>--(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()-------<br>-- _|_)-=
---|-----()--------------<br>----------()----------TJ Shredder<br><br></blo=
ckquote>
<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-George=
<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic">http://www.mys=
pace.com/georgeludwigmusic</a><br>

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FRO DIDDLY wrote:
> im sure this is common sense when it comes to banks account and email-
> but when visiting internet cafes....be sure to log out of your youtube 
> accounts as well........otherwise some pitiful soul will delete your 
> videos just for fun
> ;o)
> live and learn.....and share what you learn
How, exactly, do they do that?

Bill

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> FRO DIDDLY wrote:
>>
>> im sure this is common sense when it comes to banks account and email-
>> but when visiting internet cafes....be sure to log out of your youtube
>> accounts as well........otherwise some pitiful soul will delete your videos
>> just for fun
>> ;o)
>> live and learn.....and share what you learn

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us> wrote:
>
> How, exactly, do they do that?


"Account / Manage Account / Delete Account"

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
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Per Boysen wrote:
>> How, exactly, do they do that?
> "Account / Manage Account / Delete Account"
Sure, once they gain access.  But HOW do they gain access?  Unless you 
leave your laptop unattended in public, which would be monumentally 
wreckless, how would someone gain access to your account in order to 
perform the "Account / Manage Account / Delete Account" actions?  I hear 
horror stories of someone remotely, wirelessly accessing other people's 
laptops.  I guess that it is a good thing that it isn't common knowledge 
how to do this but I'm curious as hell.

Cheers,

Bill

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> > "Account / Manage Account / Delete Account"
> Sure, once they gain access.  But HOW do they gain access?  
> Unless you leave your laptop unattended in public, which 

Perhaps you're thinking too technologically advanced - at least in the past
I've seen places called internet cafes where they had desktop computers you
could use.

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Bill Fox wrote:
> Per Boysen wrote:
>>> How, exactly, do they do that?
>> "Account / Manage Account / Delete Account"
> Sure, once they gain access.  But HOW do they gain access?  

they navigate to youtube, ...and you're still logged in.

It's wise to do tools>>options>>delete browsing history
if using a cafe machine.


andy

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or gosh just logout or is the thought the session login info is cached?

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or gosh just logout or is the thought the session login info is cached?<br><br>

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The most annoying part of this thread is that some folks "delete for fun".
What fun is it in that? Poor bastards. Thinking like that ultimately hurts
yourself. Sad.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:22 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
> Bill Fox wrote:
>
>> Per Boysen wrote:
>>
>>> How, exactly, do they do that?
>>>>
>>> "Account / Manage Account / Delete Account"
>>>
>> Sure, once they gain access.  But HOW do they gain access?
>>
>
> they navigate to youtube, ...and you're still logged in.
>
> It's wise to do tools>>options>>delete browsing history
> if using a cafe machine.
>
>
> andy
>
>

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The most annoying part of this thread is that some folks &quot;delete for f=
un&quot;. What fun is it in that? Poor bastards. Thinking like that ultimat=
ely hurts yourself. Sad.<br><br clear=3D"all">Greetings from Sweden<br><br>
Per Boysen <br><a href=3D"http://www.boysen.se">www.boysen.se</a><br><a hre=
f=3D"http://www.perboysen.com">www.perboysen.com</a><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:22 PM, andy bu=
tler <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutl=
er@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.=
8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
<br>
Bill Fox wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Per Boysen wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin=
: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

How, exactly, do they do that?<br>
</blockquote>
&quot;Account / Manage Account / Delete Account&quot;<br>
</blockquote>
Sure, once they gain access. =C2=A0But HOW do they gain access? =C2=A0<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
they navigate to youtube, ...and you&#39;re still logged in.<br>
<br>
It&#39;s wise to do tools&gt;&gt;options&gt;&gt;delete browsing history<br>
if using a cafe machine.<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
<br>
andy<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br>

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hi gang,=0Ai just got the litte liquid foot midi controller and im having a=
 hard time controlling the EDP as i did with the behringer.=0ASo far ive ma=
nage to program the virtual functions like=0Arecord=0Aoverdub=0Amultiply=0A=
mute=0Aundo=0Anext=0Areverse=0Ahalf speed=0A=0Athe way i have to do this is=
 giving the "note on" offset number and a value of 64 and it works fine.=0A=
However when i try to program any of the e DirectMidi functions it does not=
 respond at all,do i have to send additional comands for them to function? =
i recall on the behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note number and it worked=
.=0AThe otherr thing that is not working is erasing the loop by holding and=
 pressing the record button.=0AAnyway if u midi experts could take a little=
 time to help me id be really thankfull!=0Ahere is the liquid foot jr manua=
l:=0A=0Ahttp://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml=0A=0AThanx=0Acheers=0Aww=
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Check the EDP manual for the note numbers wired to Direct MIDI Commands. I
remember using a lot of Direct MIDI Commands with my EDP. But I think they
are hardwired to MIDI Note Numbers and maybe your off-set of the non-direct
command MIDI Notes have overlapped the note numbers reserved for Direct MID=
I
Commans? Just a guess, but worth checking out.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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www.perboysen.com


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:52 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:

> hi gang,
> i just got the litte liquid foot midi controller and im having a hard tim=
e
> controlling the EDP as i did with the behringer.
> So far ive manage to program the virtual functions like
> record
> overdub
> multiply
> mute
> undo
> next
> reverse
> half speed
>
> the way i have to do this is giving the "note on" offset number and a val=
ue
> of 64 and it works fine.
> However when i try to program any of the e DirectMidi functions it does n=
ot
> respond at all,do i have to send additional comands for them to function?=
 i
> recall on the behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note number and it worked=
.
> The otherr thing that is not working is erasing the loop by holding and
> pressing the record button.
> Anyway if u midi experts could take a little time to help me id be really
> thankfull!
> here is the liquid foot jr manual:
>
> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml
>
> Thanx
> cheers
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=C3=BCgt =C3=BCber einen herausragend=
en Schutz
> gegen Massenmails.
> http://mail.yahoo.com
>
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Check the EDP manual for the note numbers wired to Direct MIDI Commands. I =
remember using a lot of Direct MIDI Commands with my EDP. But I think they =
are hardwired to MIDI Note Numbers and maybe your off-set of the non-direct=
 command MIDI Notes have overlapped the note numbers reserved for Direct MI=
DI Commans? Just a guess, but worth checking out. <br>
<br clear=3D"all">Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen <br><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.boysen.se">www.boysen.se</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.co=
m">www.perboysen.com</a><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:52 PM, L.Angul=
o <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com">labaloops@ya=
hoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padd=
ing-left: 1ex;">
hi gang,<br>
i just got the litte liquid foot midi controller and im having a hard time =
controlling the EDP as i did with the behringer.<br>
So far ive manage to program the virtual functions like<br>
record<br>
overdub<br>
multiply<br>
mute<br>
undo<br>
next<br>
reverse<br>
half speed<br>
<br>
the way i have to do this is giving the &quot;note on&quot; offset number a=
nd a value of 64 and it works fine.<br>
However when i try to program any of the e DirectMidi functions it does not=
 respond at all,do i have to send additional comands for them to function? =
i recall on the behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note number and it worked=
.<br>

The otherr thing that is not working is erasing the loop by holding and pre=
ssing the record button.<br>
Anyway if u midi experts could take a little time to help me id be really t=
hankfull!<br>
here is the liquid foot jr manual:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml</a><br>
<br>
Thanx<br>
cheers<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom" target=3D"_blank">www.mysp=
ace.com/luisangulocom</a><br>
<div class=3D"hm"><br>
__________________________________________________<br>
Do You Yahoo!?<br>
Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verf=C3=BCgt =C3=BCber einen herausragenden=
 Schutz gegen Massenmails.<br>
<a href=3D"http://mail.yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">http://mail.yahoo.com</=
a><br>
<br>
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what Per said for the DirectMidi.

They only require Note-On (except for SUS)

To get the longpress(to make reset work) I'd try changing the 
Button Mode to "Momentary while Holding".


I don't understand where you entered "64".

andy
L.Angulo wrote:
> hi gang,
> i just got the litte liquid foot midi controller and im having a hard time controlling the EDP as i did with the behringer.
> So far ive manage to program the virtual functions like
> record
> overdub
> multiply
> mute
> undo
> next
> reverse
> half speed
> 
> the way i have to do this is giving the "note on" offset number and a value of 64 and it works fine.
> However when i try to program any of the e DirectMidi functions it does not respond at all,do i have to send additional comands for them to function? i recall on the behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note number and it worked.
> The otherr thing that is not working is erasing the loop by holding and pressing the record button.
> Anyway if u midi experts could take a little time to help me id be really thankfull!
> here is the liquid foot jr manual:
> 
> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml
> 
> Thanx
> cheers
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. 
> http://mail.yahoo.com 
> 
> 

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64 is more than FIVE OCTAVES! ;-)) A somewhat massive offset...

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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www.perboysen.com


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:46 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote=
:

> what Per said for the DirectMidi.
>
> They only require Note-On (except for SUS)
>
> To get the longpress(to make reset work) I'd try changing the Button Mode
> to "Momentary while Holding".
>
>
> I don't understand where you entered "64".
>
> andy
>
> L.Angulo wrote:
>
>> hi gang,
>> i just got the litte liquid foot midi controller and im having a hard ti=
me
>> controlling the EDP as i did with the behringer.
>> So far ive manage to program the virtual functions like
>> record
>> overdub
>> multiply
>> mute
>> undo
>> next
>> reverse
>> half speed
>>
>> the way i have to do this is giving the "note on" offset number and a
>> value of 64 and it works fine.
>> However when i try to program any of the e DirectMidi functions it does
>> not respond at all,do i have to send additional comands for them to
>> function? i recall on the behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note number =
and
>> it worked.
>> The otherr thing that is not working is erasing the loop by holding and
>> pressing the record button.
>> Anyway if u midi experts could take a little time to help me id be reall=
y
>> thankfull!
>> here is the liquid foot jr manual:
>>
>> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml
>>
>> Thanx
>> cheers
>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>>
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64 is more than FIVE OCTAVES! ;-)) A somewhat massive offset...<br><br clea=
r=3D"all">Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen <br><a href=3D"http://www=
.boysen.se">www.boysen.se</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com">www.p=
erboysen.com</a><br>

<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:46 PM, andy bu=
tler <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutl=
er@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.=
8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
what Per said for the DirectMidi.<br>
<br>
They only require Note-On (except for SUS)<br>
<br>
To get the longpress(to make reset work) I&#39;d try changing the Button Mo=
de to &quot;Momentary while Holding&quot;.<br>
<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t understand where you entered &quot;64&quot;.<br><font color=3D"=
#888888">
<br>
andy</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
L.Angulo wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
hi gang,<br>
i just got the litte liquid foot midi controller and im having a hard time =
controlling the EDP as i did with the behringer.<br>
So far ive manage to program the virtual functions like<br>
record<br>
overdub<br>
multiply<br>
mute<br>
undo<br>
next<br>
reverse<br>
half speed<br>
<br>
the way i have to do this is giving the &quot;note on&quot; offset number a=
nd a value of 64 and it works fine.<br>
However when i try to program any of the e DirectMidi functions it does not=
 respond at all,do i have to send additional comands for them to function? =
i recall on the behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note number and it worked=
.<br>

The otherr thing that is not working is erasing the loop by holding and pre=
ssing the record button.<br>
Anyway if u midi experts could take a little time to help me id be really t=
hankfull!<br>
here is the liquid foot jr manual:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml</a><br>
<br>
Thanx<br>
cheers<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom" target=3D"_blank">www.mysp=
ace.com/luisangulocom</a><br>
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</blockquote>
<br>
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L.Angulo wrote:
> sorry,i meant entering an offset number followed by 127 as "data value",i do have to enter that or otherwise the functions will not work.
> as far as programing a direct midi function like "general reset" 
> 36 is the EDP source # plus 26 offset so i enter a 62 as stated in the manual,but its sill not working....


yep, 62 is a General reset with Source#=36

The "data value" is a clue that you're sending a CC.
EDP will only respond if Controlsource= Ctr



andy





> 
> cheers
> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
> 
> 
> --- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:
> 
>> Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>> Betreff: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help!
>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009, 10:46
>> what Per said for the DirectMidi.
>>
>> They only require Note-On (except for SUS)
>>
>> To get the longpress(to make reset work) I'd try changing
>> the Button Mode to "Momentary while Holding".
>>
>>
>> I don't understand where you entered "64".
>>
>> andy
>> L.Angulo wrote:
>>> hi gang,
>>> i just got the litte liquid foot midi controller and
>> im having a hard time controlling the EDP as i did with the
>> behringer.
>>> So far ive manage to program the virtual functions
>> like
>>> record
>>> overdub
>>> multiply
>>> mute
>>> undo
>>> next
>>> reverse
>>> half speed
>>>
>>> the way i have to do this is giving the "note on"
>> offset number and a value of 64 and it works fine.
>>> However when i try to program any of the e DirectMidi
>> functions it does not respond at all,do i have to send
>> additional comands for them to function? i recall on the
>> behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note number and it
>> worked.
>>> The otherr thing that is not working is erasing the
>> loop by holding and pressing the record button.
>>> Anyway if u midi experts could take a little time to
>> help me id be really thankfull!
>>> here is the liquid foot jr manual:
>>>
>>> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml
>>>
>>> Thanx
>>> cheers
>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> Do You Yahoo!?
>>> Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen
>> herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com 
>>
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 =0A> yep, 62 is a General reset with Source#=3D36=0A> =0A> The "data value=
" is a clue that you're sending a CC.=0A> EDP will only respond if Controls=
ource=3D Ctr=0A> =0A=0Anot really,otherwise the others wouldnt be working r=
ight?=0Ain the foot controller i set it up to send "note on" then i give it=
 the general reset note number in this case 62, and then it has 2 slots to =
give data value,at first i left those blank but it didnt work then i just g=
ave a value of 127 and voila.=0ABut as i said its only working for the virt=
ual comands and not the direct midi ones and is driving me crazy!=0A=0A=0A=
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A> =0A> =0A> andy=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> > =0A> > cheer=
s=0A> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > --- andy butler <=
akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=0A> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:=0A> > =0A> >> Von: a=
ndy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=0A> >> Betreff: Re: programing liquid f=
oot jr. midi=0A> footcontroller with EDP help!=0A> >> An: Loopers-Delight@l=
oopers-delight.com=0A> >> Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009, 10:46=0A> >> wh=
at Per said for the DirectMidi.=0A> >> =0A> >> They only require Note-On (e=
xcept for SUS)=0A> >> =0A> >> To get the longpress(to make reset work) I'd =
try=0A> changing=0A> >> the Button Mode to "Momentary while Holding".=0A> >=
> =0A> >> =0A> >> I don't understand where you entered "64".=0A> >> =0A> >>=
 andy=0A> >> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >>> hi gang,=0A> >>> i just got the litte =
liquid foot midi=0A> controller and=0A> >> im having a hard time controllin=
g the EDP as i did=0A> with the=0A> >> behringer.=0A> >>> So far ive manage=
 to program the virtual=0A> functions=0A> >> like=0A> >>> record=0A> >>> ov=
erdub=0A> >>> multiply=0A> >>> mute=0A> >>> undo=0A> >>> next=0A> >>> rever=
se=0A> >>> half speed=0A> >>> =0A> >>> the way i have to do this is giving =
the "note=0A> on"=0A> >> offset number and a value of 64 and it works=0A> f=
ine.=0A> >>> However when i try to program any of the e=0A> DirectMidi=0A> =
>> functions it does not respond at all,do i have to=0A> send=0A> >> additi=
onal comands for them to function? i recall=0A> on the=0A> >> behringer fcb=
1010 i just gave the note number and=0A> it=0A> >> worked.=0A> >>> The othe=
rr thing that is not working is=0A> erasing the=0A> >> loop by holding and =
pressing the record button.=0A> >>> Anyway if u midi experts could take a l=
ittle=0A> time to=0A> >> help me id be really thankfull!=0A> >>> here is th=
e liquid foot jr manual:=0A> >>> =0A> >>> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downlo=
ads.shtml=0A> >>> =0A> >>> Thanx=0A> >>> cheers=0A> >>> www.myspace.com/lui=
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Fans of low tech audio toys might like this.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/musical-instruments/c4e1/?cpg=115H4

Without MIDI this looks like it would get boring after awhile but hey  
it's $50.

Jeff

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I'm part of a new collective that was born from several paths.  We
introduced this project at the Virtual Sound &
Vision<http://www.myspace.com/vsvfestival>festival in early October.
The ensemble made up of Peter Thorn (Sweden),
Ray Istorico (USA), newly introduced Jeff Duke (USA) and myself (USA)
perfomed live on my randomly somewhat bi-weekly ustream webcast Sunday
Morning at 11 <http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11>.  As this
is a NinJam project and we were streaming live to uStream we combined with
the fine video and still imagery of Emile
Tobenfeld<http://www.foryourhead.com>who we are indebted for the use
of his work.  Here's the link to the bulk of
the set.  Due to some breakups the archive was split up, this one goes from
@15 min to end of the cast, @45 minutes.
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2617821.

A name is still being discussed.  Another performance will be scheduled
soon.

Jim

-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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I&#39;m part of a new collective that was born from several paths.=A0 We in=
troduced this project at the <a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/vsvfestival"=
>Virtual Sound &amp; Vision</a> festival in early October.=A0 The ensemble =
made up of Peter Thorn (Sweden), Ray Istorico (USA), newly introduced Jeff =
Duke (USA) and myself (USA) perfomed live on my randomly somewhat bi-weekly=
 ustream webcast <a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at=
-11">Sunday Morning at 11</a>.=A0 As this is a NinJam project and we were s=
treaming live to uStream we combined with the fine video and still imagery =
of <a href=3D"http://www.foryourhead.com">Emile Tobenfeld</a> who we are in=
debted for the use of his work.=A0 Here&#39;s the link to the bulk of the s=
et.=A0 Due to some breakups the archive was split up, this one goes from @1=
5 min to end of the cast, @45 minutes.=A0 <a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/=
recorded/2617821">http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2617821</a>.<br>
<br>A name is still being discussed.=A0 Another performance will be schedul=
ed soon.<br><br>Jim<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective tex=
tural aural<br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.com/C=
tReUse</a><br>
<br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgood=
inmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinap=
aintingmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">w=
ww.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.myspace.com/china=
paintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelect=
ro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.mys=
pace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/j=
imgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networkin=
g...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><br>

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Zoe Keating schrieb:
> hopefully cheaper than the Kbow, yes!
> 
> but "normal" footswitches are exactly what i don't want. i'm sold on the 
> light rubber pads....or even better...sensor pads

I once used a toy dance mat for a Disney kids game (still have it). 
Unfortunately it was very unreliable so it was a nice try. But I can 
imagine that new technology in higher quality could do that better. I 
wonder though why other technologies for foot switches never made it on 
to the stage, there must be a reason...

Stefan


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L.Angulo wrote:


> in the foot controller i set it up to send "note on" then i give it the general reset note number in this case 62, and then it has 

2 slots to give data value,at first i left those blank but it didnt work then i just gave a value of 127 and voila.

right, so the 2 data values represent Note-On Velocity and Note-Off velocity.
If Note-On Velocity was zero the EDP (and any other device) would treat the Note=On as a Note-Off,
and wouldn't respond.



> But as i said its only working for the virtual comands and not the direct midi ones and is driving me crazy!

huh, 62 General reset *is* a Direct Midi.
..and that's a "voila"

Is it possible that you mean other Direct Midi's aren't working?
If they were SUS commands then that makes sense, and ties in with
your observation that longpress on Record (to give Reset) isn't working.

My guess is that your controller is sending Note-On/Note-Off pairs on
pressing the switch, not waiting for you to release it before sending the Note-Off.

So, the Direct Midi SUS commands will not be audible.
(e.g. SUS Reverse would reverse for such a small time that you wouldn't perceive it)
 

I had a look at the manual for your controller, it describes a number
of "button modes".
One of those is "Momentary while Holding"
....that's what you want.
(or whatever causes the Note-Off to be sent as you *release* the switch)

hope that helps

andy




> 
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> 
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>> andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> cheers
>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>>>
>>>
>>> --- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:
>>>> Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>>>> Betreff: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi
>> footcontroller with EDP help!
>>>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>> Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009, 10:46
>>>> what Per said for the DirectMidi.
>>>>
>>>> They only require Note-On (except for SUS)
>>>>
>>>> To get the longpress(to make reset work) I'd try
>> changing
>>>> the Button Mode to "Momentary while Holding".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't understand where you entered "64".
>>>>
>>>> andy
>>>> L.Angulo wrote:
>>>>> hi gang,
>>>>> i just got the litte liquid foot midi
>> controller and
>>>> im having a hard time controlling the EDP as i did
>> with the
>>>> behringer.
>>>>> So far ive manage to program the virtual
>> functions
>>>> like
>>>>> record
>>>>> overdub
>>>>> multiply
>>>>> mute
>>>>> undo
>>>>> next
>>>>> reverse
>>>>> half speed
>>>>>
>>>>> the way i have to do this is giving the "note
>> on"
>>>> offset number and a value of 64 and it works
>> fine.
>>>>> However when i try to program any of the e
>> DirectMidi
>>>> functions it does not respond at all,do i have to
>> send
>>>> additional comands for them to function? i recall
>> on the
>>>> behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note number and
>> it
>>>> worked.
>>>>> The otherr thing that is not working is
>> erasing the
>>>> loop by holding and pressing the record button.
>>>>> Anyway if u midi experts could take a little
>> time to
>>>> help me id be really thankfull!
>>>>> here is the liquid foot jr manual:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanx
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
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Rainer Straschill wrote:
>>> "Account / Manage Account / Delete Account"
>>>       
>> Sure, once they gain access.  But HOW do they gain access?  
>> Unless you leave your laptop unattended in public, which 
>>     
>
> Perhaps you're thinking too technologically advanced - at least in the past
> I've seen places called internet cafes where they had desktop computers you
> could use.
>   
Yes, that can do it.  At the radio stations where I host shows, I always 
make sure that the save password feature is turned off and that browsing 
history is not saved... in addition to logging off any sites where I 
visited.  Sharing public hardware requires a certain amount of safety 
precautions.

Cheers,

Bill

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Not really looping,but quite interesting.

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Sold some, few more. Looking for some odd trades which may help deals.

Items looking for in trades(in order): ITouch, DSi, unusal
synths,frac/Modcan A stuff, Kaoss pad, handheld music devices or weird
effects. No guitars, amps.

Selling a bunch of pedals. Will listen to offers for multiple buys as well.

A. Boss AutoWah AW-2. $55 Like new in box.

B. Line6 FM4 Filter/guitar synth modeler. $160 Great condition. Does all
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C. DAED Feedback Synth - $250. Now with it's own web page! :)
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D. Ibanez Weeping Demon wah $65 - Like new in box w/all papers. Extremely
versitle wah with settings and options galore.

E. Ibanez AFL autofilter - $75 - unique filter sound for an autowah
(Jerry Garcia favored this series) LP/BP and *sliders* for control plus
lo/hi settings for ultra flexibilty. In GREAT shape.

F. Vintage MXR Dynacomp (block logo) - $110 - Not reissue, the real deal.

G. Heathkit 60s FuZZZ! $200. Controls are "distortion" Boost" as well as
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wired goodness.

H. Boss CS-2 Compressor - $75- old standby, MIJ OOP. good shape.

I. Tech21 Bass Compactor - $75 Versitile solid bass compressor. Perfect
for live use or recording. with original box.

J. Boutique DAED Disturbo DS-1 Filter/Synth-Fuzz/Distortion - $95
Modified Boss DS-1 pedal given new life and transformed into a processing
machine. Self oscillating Theremin plus two OUT there filter settings. Now
with Superbright Orange 5mm LED.

K. Ibanez TS5/TS9 modified to original TS9 specs with socketed and
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Prices are fair but will consider reasonable offers especially if you buy
multiple items.

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Hey guys,

I made the switch some weeks ago to go from hardware looping (EPD) to  
software looping (Ableton 8) to have a bit more control. I think I  
made the right decision, just stereo is already a big benefit and to  
be able to run multiple loopers at once makes it much more controlable  
while on stage.

But, it's getting better and better, but whatever I try it just  
doesn't seem to work perfect. But I still get this latency issues. It  
just doesn't seem to align. And also the first loop seems to drift  
from the main click.

I also updated my MacBook to the full 4GB or RAM and still I get these  
"out of memory errors".

Anyone has the same experiences?

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Reyn

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Hi Reyn,

I use the Ableton 8 looper. I'm running windows and with 2Gb of RAM I
haven't had any out of memory issues.

I also haven't noticed sync or latency problems. Are you using MMX or
ASIO in the preferences for audio? I noticed with 8 that it is set to
MMX by default. ASIO should be much better in terms of latency.

Timing seems rock solid. My loops don't seem to drift at all. I'd give
8 a big thumbs up. I also like the multi-function loop button. For
syncing a loops with drum patterns it's my favorite.

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Reyn Ouwehand <reyn@reyn.net> wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I made the switch some weeks ago to go from hardware looping (EPD) to
> software looping (Ableton 8) to have a bit more control. I think I made the
> right decision, just stereo is already a big benefit and to be able to run
> multiple loopers at once makes it much more controlable while on stage.
>
> But, it's getting better and better, but whatever I try it just doesn't seem
> to work perfect. But I still get this latency issues. It just doesn't seem
> to align. And also the first loop seems to drift from the main click.
>
> I also updated my MacBook to the full 4GB or RAM and still I get these "out
> of memory errors".
>
> Anyone has the same experiences?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Reyn
>
> www.reyn.net
>
> www.reyn.vs.reyn.net
>
>



-- 
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It took me a while to get it right but adjusting the midi delay  
settings on the IAC driver in Live's preferences did the trick for me.

On Nov 24, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Reyn Ouwehand wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> I made the switch some weeks ago to go from hardware looping (EPD)  
> to software looping (Ableton 8) to have a bit more control. I think  
> I made the right decision, just stereo is already a big benefit and  
> to be able to run multiple loopers at once makes it much more  
> controlable while on stage.
>
> But, it's getting better and better, but whatever I try it just  
> doesn't seem to work perfect. But I still get this latency issues.  
> It just doesn't seem to align. And also the first loop seems to  
> drift from the main click.
>
> I also updated my MacBook to the full 4GB or RAM and still I get  
> these "out of memory errors".
>
> Anyone has the same experiences?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Reyn
>
> www.reyn.net
>
> www.reyn.vs.reyn.net
>

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Has anyone experimented with this pedal. I'd never heard of it  
before.....

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Morpheus-DropTune-Octave-Guitar-Effects-Pedal?sku=583554

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Neither had I, but wow, the write up sure sounds good! 

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<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Neither had I, but wow, the write up sure sounds good!<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "john floridis" &lt;john@johnfloridis.com&gt;<br>To: "Loopers Delight" &lt;Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com&gt;<br>Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:20:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: Morpheus DropTune Octave Guitar Effects Pedal<br><br>Has anyone experimented with this pedal. I'd never heard of it &nbsp;<br>before.....<br><br>http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Morpheus-DropTune-Octave-Guitar-Effects-Pedal?sku=583554<br><br></div></body></html>
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I've been thinking about making this same shift myself (from Repeater +
Ableton-as-non-recording-loop-player to
Ableton-as-live-recording-looper).&nbsp; On a standard laptop sound setup
w/o special audio hardware (just as a test bed) the latency was too
long for my taste. My old desktop rig has an old Echo Gina card /
break-out box, but is ancient hardware (PIII, believe it or not);
haven't tried it there yet. I'm planning on upgrading this machine
though.<br>
<br>
What are most Windows folks using for the audio hardware these days,
and what should be typical good/expected latency times w/Ableton?<br>
<br>
C<br>
<br>
Art Simon wrote:
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  <pre wrap="">Hi Reyn,

I use the Ableton 8 looper. I'm running windows and with 2Gb of RAM I
haven't had any out of memory issues.

I also haven't noticed sync or latency problems. Are you using MMX or
ASIO in the preferences for audio? I noticed with 8 that it is set to
MMX by default. ASIO should be much better in terms of latency.

Timing seems rock solid. My loops don't seem to drift at all. I'd give
8 a big thumbs up. I also like the multi-function loop button. For
syncing a loops with drum patterns it's my favorite.

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Reyn Ouwehand <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:reyn@reyn.net">&lt;reyn@reyn.net&gt;</a> wrote:
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    <pre wrap="">Hey guys,

I made the switch some weeks ago to go from hardware looping (EPD) to
software looping (Ableton 8) to have a bit more control. I think I made the
right decision, just stereo is already a big benefit and to be able to run
multiple loopers at once makes it much more controlable while on stage.

But, it's getting better and better, but whatever I try it just doesn't seem
to work perfect. But I still get this latency issues. It just doesn't seem
to align. And also the first loop seems to drift from the main click.

I also updated my MacBook to the full 4GB or RAM and still I get these "out
of memory errors".

Anyone has the same experiences?

Cheers,

Reyn

<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.reyn.net">www.reyn.net</a>

<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.reyn.vs.reyn.net">www.reyn.vs.reyn.net</a>


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guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young person, an
intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and adapted to the actual
days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some watts, suzuki, but i'm not sure
about them.. it's for a present. thanks.

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>	What are most Windows folks using for the audio hardware these days, =
and what should be typical good/expected latency times w/Ableton?

Obviously I can't comment on statistics, only give you my own =
experiences:

For the desktop machine, my main interface is a RME multiface II (and =
sometimes a digiface), interfaced via a HDSP PCIexpress card (the =
digiface can also be connected to the laptop via a PCMCIA card for =
24-track session recordings in combination with micpres with adat =
interface). RME is famed for good...well, almost everything, and I know =
also several people here use a Fireface400, and they do now have =
interfaces which connect to USB2 (which usually is less of a hassle for =
windows laptop users).

For the laptop setup, I use a TC Electronics Konnekt24D. While it's =
famed for the best converters and micpres in its price class (and you =
get great channel strip and reverb thrown in), the drivers/firewire =
chipset is definitely sub-par, so if low latency at high system load is =
a requirement, I cannot recommend these interfaces.

I also have a Presonus Firebox (and there are some other users of this =
here as well), which is excellent bang for the buck. Relatively simple =
feature set, but imo great bang for the buck, and well-suited for live =
applications with an analogue level control for the main outs =
(unfortunately, I fried my out1/2 pair - here's some advice - NEVER =
connect anything that's not made for this to a phantom-powered input).

There's another one in my arsenal: the now discontinued Marian UCON CX =
(which I got for something like =E2=82=AC125 off ebay at a sellout). =
While this interface has a great feature set (4 micpres, 8 analogue ins =
and outs and ADAT I/O in a half-rack space), and is one of the few great =
USB2 interfaces, there's no more driver support for it - the only ones =
available being (32-bit) XP drivers. However, I think somebody recoded =
them for Linux, if that is of interest.
It's rather a pity, because this interface gives you outstanding latency =
via USB2 and is (as I believe) the only interface with four micpres in a =
half-rack form factor.

Summary: you usually won't go wrong with RME. If money is an issue, the =
Firebox is also an interface I can recommend.

	Rainer

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There are a lot of choices for audio hardware depending on your
preferences, but one thing is absolutely required: an ASIO device
driver.  You don't usually get an ASIO driver with built-in audio
hardware which is probably why you had high latency.

On a modern machine you should be able to run smoothly with a 128
sample block size.  There will be one of these on both the input and
output sides for a "round trip" latency of 256 samples or 5.805
milliseconds at a sample rate of 44.1K.

The general belief is that latency below 10 milliseconds becomes very
difficult to notice as long as it stays fixed.  Even if you do notice,
it is usually possible to adjust your playing style to compensate just
like you do when you play with a monitor speaker more than 6 feet
away.  Accoustic players may be more sensitive to this.

The actual ASIO block size you can use is dependent on many things:
the speed of the CPU, the amount of memory, the applications you have
running at the same time, the firewire chipset (if you use a firewire
audio interface) the graphics card memory, etc.  If the block size is too
small the system won't be able to keep up with requests from the
hardware and you will year "clicks".

The important thing to understand is that latency isn't some fixed
quality of Ableton or the audio hardware, it is something you tune to
be as low as possible for your combination of hardware and software.
It's sort of like finding the highest stable operating speed of a car.

If you've got a machine less than 2 years old with carefully selected
components and you've been careful about what software you have
installed then a 128 block size is to be expected, and I've
seen some go as low at 64.  I've never heard of 32 under Windows
or Mac.

If you've got a 5 year old machine with under 1GB of memory and a
lot of software installed then you might have problems getting that
without a lot of tuning if you can get it at all.

Jeff

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I've been thinking about making this same shift myself (from Repeater + Abl=
eton-as-non-recording-loop-player to Ableton-as-live-recording-looper).  On=
 a standard laptop sound setup w/o special audio hardware (just as a test b=
ed) the latency was too long for my taste. My old desktop rig has an old Ec=
ho Gina card / break-out box, but is ancient hardware (PIII, believe it or =
not); haven't tried it there yet. I'm planning on upgrading this machine th=
ough.

What are most Windows folks using for the audio hardware these days, and wh=
at should be typical good/expected latency times w/Ableton?




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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
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device<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
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color:#1F497D'>On a modern machine you should be able to run smoothly with =
a
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color:#1F497D'>sample block size.&nbsp; There will be one of these on both =
the input
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color:#1F497D'>output sides for a &quot;round trip&quot; latency of 256 sam=
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or 5.805<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
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color:#1F497D'>milliseconds at a sample rate of 44.1K.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>

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color:#1F497D'>The general belief is that latency below 10 milliseconds bec=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
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color:#1F497D'>it is usually possible to adjust your playing style to
compensate just<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
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color:#1F497D'>like you do when you play with a monitor speaker more than 6
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
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"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The actual ASIO block size you can use is dependent on many
things:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>the speed of the CPU, the amount of memory, the applications=
 you
have<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>running at the same time, the firewire chipset (if you use a
firewire<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>audio interface) the graphics card memory, etc.&nbsp; If the=
 block
size is too<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>small the system won't be able to keep up with requests from=
 the<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>hardware and you will year &quot;clicks&quot;.<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The important thing to understand is that latency isn't some
fixed<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>quality of Ableton or the audio hardware, it is something yo=
u
tune to<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>be as low as possible for your combination of hardware and
software.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It's sort of like finding the highest stable operating speed=
 of
a car.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you've got a machine less than 2 years old with carefully
selected<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>components and you've been careful about what software you h=
ave<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>installed then a 128 block size is to be expected, and I've<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>seen some go as low at 64.&nbsp; I've never heard of 32 unde=
r Windows
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>or Mac.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you've got a 5 year old machine with under 1GB of memory =
and
a <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>lot of software installed then you might have problems getti=
ng
that<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>without a lot of tuning if you can get it at all.&nbsp; &nbs=
p;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Jeff<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<div>

<div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma=
","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> CM [mailto:listmail@asyouthink.com=
] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Ableton 8 Looping problems<o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>I've been thinking about making this same shift myself=
 (from
Repeater + Ableton-as-non-recording-loop-player to Ableton-as-live-recordin=
g-looper).&nbsp;
On a standard laptop sound setup w/o special audio hardware (just as a test
bed) the latency was too long for my taste. My old desktop rig has an old E=
cho
Gina card / break-out box, but is ancient hardware (PIII, believe it or not=
);
haven't tried it there yet. I'm planning on upgrading this machine though.<=
br>
<br>
What are most Windows folks using for the audio hardware these days, and wh=
at
should be typical good/expected latency times w/Ableton?<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>

<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></pre></blockquote>

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At 11:30 PM +0100 11/24/09, Raul Bonell wrote:
>guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young 
>person, an intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and 
>adapted to the actual days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some 
>watts, suzuki, but i'm not sure about them.. it's for a present. 
>thanks.

How much does he know about Zen already?

When I was 15, the book I kept going back to again and again was "The 
Zen Experience" by Thomas Hoover.  It's more a history book -- 
charting Zen from its beginnings with the original sutras, 
Kumarijiva's concept of Void, and Bodhidharma's journey out of India 
to China.  It explains the philosophical theories while describing 
the lives and beliefs of each of Zen's Patriarchs as the religion 
morphed from Indian Mahayana Buddhism, into the North and South 
schools of Chinese Ch'an, and finally the Rinzai and Soto Zen sects 
of Japan.

So all the philosophy and foundational underpinnings are there, just 
explained in plain English without all the "Ooooeeeeooooeeeeooooo 
we're going to get all mystical and secretive on you" BS.  When I was 
a teenager, I really appreciated the straightforward language and 
approach.

If he's more advanced and already knows quite a bit about the theory, 
you might take a look through some of the books by Roshi Philip 
Kapleau.  Also more straightforward than the "classics" (D.T. Suzuki, 
etc.)

Or if you're looking just to throw him into the deep end, buy him a 
copy of "Zen Flesh, Zen Bones" and give it to him with no 
explanations.  ;)

	--m.
-- 
_____
"take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than 
one step..."

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"There Is Nothing Wrong With You for Teens" by Cheri Huber..

Quoting Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com>:

> guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young person, an
> intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and adapted to the actual
> days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some watts, suzuki, but i'm not sure
> about them.. it's for a present. thanks.
>
> --
> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
>


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Jeff said: 

>	The actual ASIO block size you can use is dependent on many things:
>	the speed of the CPU, the amount of memory, the applications you
have
>	running at the same time, the firewire chipset (if you use a
firewire
>	audio interface) the graphics card memory, etc.  If the block size
is too
>	small the system won't be able to keep up with requests from the
>	hardware and you will year "clicks".

Let's not forget the audio interface, its interface technology and its
drivers here. The combination can make all the difference here, and it's
also something you can choose rather freely (other than, say, the firewire
chipset of a laptop).

>	If you've got a 5 year old machine with under 1GB of memory and a 
>	lot of software installed then you might have problems getting that
>	without a lot of tuning if you can get it at all.    

The tuning is in fact an important factor here. There's lots of websites
which describe how to tune your OS so it runs best for audio applications.
For my main machine, I actually use two independent OS installations, one
for music and one for all the other stuff.

Another item worth mentioning that hasn't come up is the so-called DPC
latency. This is a property of the computer hardware and lowlevel software
(read: BIOS). Especially for laptops, this value is sometimes over the roof,
but can be possibly brought down e.g. by disabling wireless network hardware
etc.
Here's a tool to check this: http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml

	Rainer

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> How much does he know about Zen already?
>
> When I was 15, the book I kept going back to again and again was  
> "The Zen Experience" by Thomas Hoover.  It's more a history book --  
> charting Zen from its beginnings with the original sutras,  
> Kumarijiva's concept of Void, and Bodhidharma's journey out of India  
> to China.  It explains the philosophical theories while describing  
> the lives and beliefs of each of Zen's Patriarchs as the religion  
> morphed from Indian Mahayana Buddhism, into the North and South  
> schools of Chinese Ch'an, and finally the Rinzai and Soto Zen sects  
> of Japan.
>

If it's history your friend is interested in, you're going to want to  
buy something much more recent than Hoover, for one thing. More  
importantly, you'll want to buy a book with some scholarly merit. Look  
at books by John McRae ("Seeing Through Zen") or Bernard Faure, for  
instance--both Chan/Zen scholars at the top of their field.

My .02

Jeff

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Perhaps too young, but perhaps right in a Zen sort of way: Zen Shorts by =
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thanks for your quick responses. i have to take a look at these and then try
to find which of them is translated into spanish. sorry i did forget to
mention this before.

is there something loopers-delight is not good for?
you rock!


2009/11/25 Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@verizon.net>

>
>  How much does he know about Zen already?
>>
>> When I was 15, the book I kept going back to again and again was "The Zen
>> Experience" by Thomas Hoover.  It's more a history book -- charting Zen from
>> its beginnings with the original sutras, Kumarijiva's concept of Void, and
>> Bodhidharma's journey out of India to China.  It explains the philosophical
>> theories while describing the lives and beliefs of each of Zen's Patriarchs
>> as the religion morphed from Indian Mahayana Buddhism, into the North and
>> South schools of Chinese Ch'an, and finally the Rinzai and Soto Zen sects of
>> Japan.
>>
>>
> If it's history your friend is interested in, you're going to want to buy
> something much more recent than Hoover, for one thing. More importantly,
> you'll want to buy a book with some scholarly merit. Look at books by John
> McRae ("Seeing Through Zen") or Bernard Faure, for instance--both Chan/Zen
> scholars at the top of their field.
>
> My .02
>
> Jeff
>
>


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thanks for your quick responses. i have to take a look at these and then tr=
y to find which of them is translated into spanish. sorry i did forget to m=
ention this before.<br><br>is there something loopers-delight is not good f=
or?<br>
you rock!<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/11/25 Jeff Shirkey <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jcshirke@verizon.net">jcshirke@verizon=
.net</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-le=
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204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
How much does he know about Zen already?<br>
<br>
When I was 15, the book I kept going back to again and again was &quot;The =
Zen Experience&quot; by Thomas Hoover. =A0It&#39;s more a history book -- c=
harting Zen from its beginnings with the original sutras, Kumarijiva&#39;s =
concept of Void, and Bodhidharma&#39;s journey out of India to China. =A0It=
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 of each of Zen&#39;s Patriarchs as the religion morphed from Indian Mahaya=
na Buddhism, into the North and South schools of Chinese Ch&#39;an, and fin=
ally the Rinzai and Soto Zen sects of Japan.<br>

<br>
</blockquote>
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If it&#39;s history your friend is interested in, you&#39;re going to want =
to buy something much more recent than Hoover, for one thing. More importan=
tly, you&#39;ll want to buy a book with some scholarly merit. Look at books=
 by John McRae (&quot;Seeing Through Zen&quot;) or Bernard Faure, for insta=
nce--both Chan/Zen scholars at the top of their field.<br>

<br>
My .02<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
Jeff<br>
<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell at B=
logger: <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://raulbonell.blogsp=
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m">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>
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On Nov 24, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Mech wrote:

> Or if you're looking just to throw him into the deep end, buy him a  
> copy of "Zen Flesh, Zen Bones" and give it to him with no  
> explanations.  ;)

Great book. Read it years ago. Definitely had a good effect on me.

Obscure Trivia Dept.-

The 1970 film "El Topo" by Alejandro Jodorowsky had much to do with,  
or least somewhat to do with "Zen Flesh, Zen Bones".
But, I am not so sure that tossing that film at a youngster would be  
all that advisable?
Or hey...maybe it would? No one ever said that Life was always  
supposed to be "pretty"...even a Life of "enlightenment". Zen makes a  
good point of this reality.
But, I guess it would depend on their age, or level of sensitivity,  
or whatever other personal factors? (Or...?)
However, the film is certainly not for everyone, but I have always  
found it to be incredible.

http://www.subcin.com/jod01.html

http://www.subcin.com/jod02.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Topo

And, for an even bigger mind blower that is a "quest for spiritual  
Truth" etc, then by all means see Jodo's 1973 film "Holy Mountain".  
My absolutely top favorite film of all time!
I think even a teenster could maybe handle this one, but a mind  
(young or old) could also possibly be "transformed" a bit by this  
particular film experience. :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Mountain_%281973_film%29

Cheers,
Rev. Fever
Portland,OR

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On Nov 24, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Raul Bonell wrote:

> guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young  
> person, an intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and  
> adapted to the actual days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some  
> watts, suzuki, but i'm not sure about them.. it's for a present.  
> thanks.

It depends on what you want. Do you want a beginning Zen user's manual  
(so to speak)? Or do you want a reliable, historical introduction to  
Zen (or Buddhism generally speaking)--as opposed to all the crap  
that's out there?

Jeff

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How about the Tao Te Ching?     I believe those are essentially Zen
principles, in a very consumable , short book.
-Qua


On 11/24/09 3:23 PM, "Raul Bonell" <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:

> thanks for your quick responses. i have to take a look at these and then =
try
> to find which of them is translated into spanish. sorry i did forget to
> mention this before.
>=20
> is there something loopers-delight is not good for?
> you rock!
>=20
>=20
> 2009/11/25 Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@verizon.net>
>>=20
>>> How much does he know about Zen already?
>>>=20
>>> When I was 15, the book I kept going back to again and again was "The Z=
en
>>> Experience" by Thomas Hoover. =A0It's more a history book -- charting Zen=
 from
>>> its beginnings with the original sutras, Kumarijiva's concept of Void, =
and
>>> Bodhidharma's journey out of India to China. =A0It explains the philosoph=
ical
>>> theories while describing the lives and beliefs of each of Zen's Patria=
rchs
>>> as the religion morphed from Indian Mahayana Buddhism, into the North a=
nd
>>> South schools of Chinese Ch'an, and finally the Rinzai and Soto Zen sec=
ts of
>>> Japan.
>>>=20
>>=20
>> If it's history your friend is interested in, you're going to want to bu=
y
>> something much more recent than Hoover, for one thing. More importantly,
>> you'll want to buy a book with some scholarly merit. Look at books by Jo=
hn
>> McRae ("Seeing Through Zen") or Bernard Faure, for instance--both Chan/Z=
en
>> scholars at the top of their field.
>>=20
>> My .02
>>=20
>> Jeff
>>=20
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>=20

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<BR>
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On that topic I'm using a Mackie 1620 Onyx mixer as my 'soundcard'.  
But that mixer "should" have very low latency. I do rather use a  
pretty long Firewire cable, but that should be fine right?

I'll try the MIDI delay idea. That sounds like a solid solution..  
Thanks.

Cheers,

Reyn

www.reyn.net

On Nov 24, 2009, at 11:55 PM, Jeff Larson wrote:

>
> There are a lot of choices for audio hardware depending on your
> preferences, but one thing is absolutely required: an ASIO device
> driver.  You don't usually get an ASIO driver with built-in audio
> hardware which is probably why you had high latency.
>
> On a modern machine you should be able to run smoothly with a 128
> sample block size.  There will be one of these on both the input and
> output sides for a "round trip" latency of 256 samples or 5.805
> milliseconds at a sample rate of 44.1K.
>
> The general belief is that latency below 10 milliseconds becomes very
> difficult to notice as long as it stays fixed.  Even if you do notice,
> it is usually possible to adjust your playing style to compensate just
> like you do when you play with a monitor speaker more than 6 feet
> away.  Accoustic players may be more sensitive to this.
>
> The actual ASIO block size you can use is dependent on many things:
> the speed of the CPU, the amount of memory, the applications you have
> running at the same time, the firewire chipset (if you use a firewire
> audio interface) the graphics card memory, etc.  If the block size  
> is too
> small the system won't be able to keep up with requests from the
> hardware and you will year "clicks".
>
> The important thing to understand is that latency isn't some fixed
> quality of Ableton or the audio hardware, it is something you tune to
> be as low as possible for your combination of hardware and software.
> It's sort of like finding the highest stable operating speed of a car.
>
> If you've got a machine less than 2 years old with carefully selected
> components and you've been careful about what software you have
> installed then a 128 block size is to be expected, and I've
> seen some go as low at 64.  I've never heard of 32 under Windows
> or Mac.
>
> If you've got a 5 year old machine with under 1GB of memory and a
> lot of software installed then you might have problems getting that
> without a lot of tuning if you can get it at all.
>
> Jeff
>
> From: CM [mailto:listmail@asyouthink.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:00 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Ableton 8 Looping problems
>
> I've been thinking about making this same shift myself (from  
> Repeater + Ableton-as-non-recording-loop-player to Ableton-as-live- 
> recording-looper).  On a standard laptop sound setup w/o special  
> audio hardware (just as a test bed) the latency was too long for my  
> taste. My old desktop rig has an old Echo Gina card / break-out box,  
> but is ancient hardware (PIII, believe it or not); haven't tried it  
> there yet. I'm planning on upgrading this machine though.
>
> What are most Windows folks using for the audio hardware these days,  
> and what should be typical good/expected latency times w/Ableton?
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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>On that topic I'm using a =
Mackie 1620 Onyx mixer as my 'soundcard'. But that mixer "should" have =
very low latency. I do rather use a pretty long Firewire cable, but that =
should be fine right?&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I'll try the MIDI =
delay idea. That sounds like a solid solution.. =
Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Reyn</di=
v><div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.reyn.net">www.reyn.net</a></div><br><div><div>On Nov =
24, 2009, at 11:55 PM, Jeff Larson wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: =
normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div bgcolor=3D"white" =
lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"Section1"><div=
 style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; color: black; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">There are a lot of choices for audio hardware =
depending on your<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">preferences, but one thing is absolutely required: =
an ASIO device<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">driver.&nbsp; You don't usually get an ASIO driver =
with built-in audio<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">hardware which is probably why you had high =
latency.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; color: black; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">On a modern machine you =
should be able to run smoothly with a 128<o:p></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; color: black; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">sample block size.&nbsp; =
There will be one of these on both the input =
and<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">output sides for a "round trip" latency of 256 =
samples or 5.805<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">milliseconds at a sample rate of =
44.1K.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; color: black; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">The general belief is =
that latency below 10 milliseconds becomes =
very<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">difficult to notice as long as it stays fixed.&nbsp; =
Even if you do notice,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">it is usually possible to adjust your playing =
style to compensate just<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">like you do when you play with a monitor =
speaker more than 6 feet<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">away.&nbsp; Accoustic players may be more =
sensitive to this.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; color: black; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">The actual ASIO block =
size you can use is dependent on many =
things:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">the speed of the CPU, the amount of memory, the =
applications you have<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">running at the same time, the firewire =
chipset (if you use a firewire<o:p></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; color: black; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">audio interface) the =
graphics card memory, etc.&nbsp; If the block size is =
too<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">small the system won't be able to keep up with =
requests from the<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">hardware and you will year =
"clicks".<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; color: black; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">The important thing to =
understand is that latency isn't some fixed<o:p></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; color: black; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">quality of Ableton or =
the audio hardware, it is something you tune =
to<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">be as low as possible for your combination of =
hardware and software.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">It's sort of like finding the highest stable =
operating speed of a car.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; color: black; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">If you've got a machine less than 2 years old with =
carefully selected<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">components and you've been careful about what =
software you have<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">installed then a 128 block size is to be expected, =
and I've<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">seen some go as low at 64.&nbsp; I've never heard of =
32 under Windows<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">or Mac.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; color: black; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">If you've got a 5 year old machine with under 1GB of =
memory and a<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">lot of software installed then you might have =
problems getting that<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">without a lot of tuning if you can get it at =
all.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; color: black; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
">Jeff<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div><div =
style=3D"border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; =
border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; =
border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); =
border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; =
padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: =
windowtext; ">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>CM [<a =
href=3D"mailto:listmail@asyouthink.com" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:listmail@asyouthink.com</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, November 24, 2009 =
3:00 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a=
 href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline; =
">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: Ableton 8 Looping =
problems<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">I've been =
thinking about making this same shift myself (from Repeater + =
Ableton-as-non-recording-loop-player to =
Ableton-as-live-recording-looper).&nbsp; On a standard laptop sound =
setup w/o special audio hardware (just as a test bed) the latency was =
too long for my taste. My old desktop rig has an old Echo Gina card / =
break-out box, but is ancient hardware (PIII, believe it or not); =
haven't tried it there yet. I'm planning on upgrading this machine =
though.<br><br>What are most Windows folks using for the audio hardware =
these days, and what should be typical good/expected latency times =
w/Ableton?<br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt; "><pre style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
'Courier New'; color: black; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre></blockquote></div></div></span></blockquote></di=
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mech advised:

*Or if you're looking just to throw him into the deep end, buy him a
copy of "Zen Flesh, Zen Bones" and give it to him with no
explanations.  ;)


*I concur with mech's advice, with the exception that I became 
interested in Zen originally
because of stumbling on the book 'Zen Flesh, Zen Bones' so it was my 
introduction
to that world.    I wouldn't consider it the deep end at all if you have
 him read the section called *101 Zen Stories* first in that book.

It is really entertaining and after reading a bunch of these little one
and two page parables, you start to really get what Zen is about.

It is not really intellectual or challenging................some really 
good points are made that
are thought provoking.    I still quote from some of these stories to my
students 40 years after having read it for the first time.

I especially love the story of the young and old zen monk who help the 
beautiful woman cross the stream.
I even have a Japanese print on my bathroom door that illustrates the 
old monk carrying her across the stream in the illustrative
story about the nature and power of desire.
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tao te king... i was thinking of this too.
it's an interesting subject for lots of you, as i see.

it's hard to describe this with my limited english, but anyway...

the book is for a student which is asking himself "what comes next". it's a
very good student, but with the actual state of things and the new european
laws coming on 2012, Bologna, it looks they are feeling the pressure the
political system is exerting on them. the idea behind is that of the even
more strict specialization. which, i hope you're agree here, is pure shit.

it pisses me off that even the more skilled ones face the matter by reducing
the problem to what's going to be "really important", and thus, what's going
to be economically rewarding. what a loss of talented minds.

since this is the last year they'll stay before jumping to the university,
and knowing my limitations, i had the idea of passing the flame with some
"long run" book. at least, for those who seem inhabited by old souls, so to
say.

thanks friends!

2009/11/25 Qua Veda <qua@oregon.com>

>  How about the Tao Te Ching?     I believe those are essentially Zen
> principles, in a very consumable , short book.
> -Qua
>
>
>
> On 11/24/09 3:23 PM, "Raul Bonell" <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> thanks for your quick responses. i have to take a look at these and then
> try to find which of them is translated into spanish. sorry i did forget to
> mention this before.
>
> is there something loopers-delight is not good for?
> you rock!
>
>
> 2009/11/25 Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@verizon.net>
>
>
> How much does he know about Zen already?
>
> When I was 15, the book I kept going back to again and again was "The Zen
> Experience" by Thomas Hoover.  It's more a history book -- charting Zen from
> its beginnings with the original sutras, Kumarijiva's concept of Void, and
> Bodhidharma's journey out of India to China.  It explains the philosophical
> theories while describing the lives and beliefs of each of Zen's Patriarchs
> as the religion morphed from Indian Mahayana Buddhism, into the North and
> South schools of Chinese Ch'an, and finally the Rinzai and Soto Zen sects of
> Japan.
>
>
> If it's history your friend is interested in, you're going to want to buy
> something much more recent than Hoover, for one thing. More importantly,
> you'll want to buy a book with some scholarly merit. Look at books by John
> McRae ("Seeing Through Zen") or Bernard Faure, for instance--both Chan/Zen
> scholars at the top of their field.
>
> My .02
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
> -Qua
>
>


-- 
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tao te king... i was thinking of this too. <br>it&#39;s an interesting subj=
ect for lots of you, as i see. <br><br>it&#39;s hard to describe this with =
my limited english, but anyway... <br><br>the book is for a student which i=
s asking himself &quot;what comes next&quot;. it&#39;s a very good student,=
 but with the actual state of things and the new european laws coming on 20=
12, Bologna, it looks they are feeling the pressure the political system is=
 exerting on them. the idea behind is that of the even more strict speciali=
zation. which, i hope you&#39;re agree here, is pure shit.<br>
<br>it pisses me off that even the more skilled ones face the matter by red=
ucing the problem to what&#39;s going to be &quot;really important&quot;, a=
nd thus, what&#39;s going to be economically rewarding. what a loss of tale=
nted minds.<br>
<br>since this is the last year they&#39;ll stay before jumping to the univ=
ersity, and knowing my limitations, i had the idea of passing the flame wit=
h some &quot;long run&quot; book. at least, for those who seem inhabited by=
 old souls, so to say.<br>
<br>thanks friends!<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/11/25 Qua Veda <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:qua@oregon.com" target=3D"_blank">qu=
a@oregon.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">



<div>
<font face=3D"Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style=3D"font-size:=
 11pt;">How about the Tao Te Ching? =A0=A0=A0=A0I believe those are essenti=
ally Zen principles, in a very consumable , short book. <br>
-Qua<div><div></div><div><br>
<br>
<br>
On 11/24/09 3:23 PM, &quot;Raul Bonell&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"http://raul.bon=
ell@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">raul.bonell@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
</div></div></span></font><div><div></div><div><blockquote><font face=3D"Ca=
libri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;">thanks f=
or your quick responses. i have to take a look at these and then try to fin=
d which of them is translated into spanish. sorry i did forget to mention t=
his before.<br>


<br>
is there something loopers-delight is not good for?<br>
you rock!<br>
<br>
<br>
2009/11/25 Jeff Shirkey &lt;<a href=3D"http://jcshirke@verizon.net" target=
=3D"_blank">jcshirke@verizon.net</a>&gt;<br>
</span></font><blockquote><font face=3D"Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"=
><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;"><br>
</span></font><blockquote><font face=3D"Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"=
><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;">How much does he know about Zen already?<=
br>
<br>
When I was 15, the book I kept going back to again and again was &quot;The =
Zen Experience&quot; by Thomas Hoover. =A0It&#39;s more a history book -- c=
harting Zen from its beginnings with the original sutras, Kumarijiva&#39;s =
concept of Void, and Bodhidharma&#39;s journey out of India to China. =A0It=
 explains the philosophical theories while describing the lives and beliefs=
 of each of Zen&#39;s Patriarchs as the religion morphed from Indian Mahaya=
na Buddhism, into the North and South schools of Chinese Ch&#39;an, and fin=
ally the Rinzai and Soto Zen sects of Japan.<br>


<br>
</span></font></blockquote><font face=3D"Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial=
"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;"><br>
If it&#39;s history your friend is interested in, you&#39;re going to want =
to buy something much more recent than Hoover, for one thing. More importan=
tly, you&#39;ll want to buy a book with some scholarly merit. Look at books=
 by John McRae (&quot;Seeing Through Zen&quot;) or Bernard Faure, for insta=
nce--both Chan/Zen scholars at the top of their field.<br>


<br>
My .02<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Jeff<br>
<br>
</font></span></font></blockquote><font face=3D"Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica=
, Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;"><br>
<br>
</span></font></blockquote></div></div><font face=3D"Calibri, Verdana, Helv=
etica, Arial"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt;"><br>
-Qua<br>
<br>
</span></font>
</div>


</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell at Blogger:=
 <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.com" target=3D"_blank">http://raulbo=
nell.blogspot.com</a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href=3D"http://www.ct-co=
llective.com" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>

<br>

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BTW,  all 101 stories are available online at  http://www.101zenstories.com/
-Qua


On 11/24/09 4:22 PM, "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

> mech advised:
> 
> *Or if you're looking just to throw him into the deep end, buy him a
> copy of "Zen Flesh, Zen Bones" and give it to him with no
> explanations.  ;)
> 
> 
> *I concur with mech's advice, with the exception that I became
> interested in Zen originally
> because of stumbling on the book 'Zen Flesh, Zen Bones' so it was my
> introduction
> to that world.    I wouldn't consider it the deep end at all if you have
>  him read the section called *101 Zen Stories* first in that book.
> 
> It is really entertaining and after reading a bunch of these little one
> and two page parables, you start to really get what Zen is about.
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On Nov 24, 2009, at 5:45 PM, Qua Veda wrote:

> How about the Tao Te Ching?     I believe those are essentially Zen  
> principles, in a very consumable , short book.

To say that the Daodejing is a Zen book, is a big, big stretch. I  
suppose you could argue that some of its principles may be Zen-like  
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world is the Daodejing saying--which is by no means clear, and it is  
probably saying several different things at once. And, 2) What are  
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Problem #3: Most translations of the DDJ are utter crap. Choose  
wisely. Check the press. Check the credentials of the translator.

Jeff
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anyway?</div><div><br></div><div>Problem #3: Most translations of the =
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On Nov 24, 2009, at 2:30 PM, Raul Bonell wrote:

> may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young person,  
> an intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and adapted to  
> the actual days?


I would go with  Alan Watt's -- give both The Book and The Way of Zen  
as a combo perhaps. Classics, especially for their humor and  
enthusiasm.  Likely available in Spanish.

More scholarly but still readable is the short monograph What is Zen?  
by R.H. Blyth which is actually volume 1 of his  Zen & Zen Classics.  
Not sure about availability of that in Spanish.

regards

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at 2:30 PM, Raul Bonell wrote:</div><br =
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&nbsp;Alan Watt's -- give both&nbsp;The Book and The Way of Zen as a =
combo perhaps. Classics, especially for their humor and enthusiasm. =
&nbsp;Likely available in Spanish.</div><div><br></div><div>More =
scholarly but still readable is the short monograph What is Zen? by R.H. =
Blyth which is actually volume 1 of his &nbsp;Zen &amp; Zen Classics. =
Not sure about availability of that in =
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Tao Te Ching. 

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I read Zen and the Art of Archery when I was around that age.  Quite good.  

 

Tony

 

From: Raul Bonell [mailto:raul.bonell@gmail.com] 
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guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young person, an
intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and adapted to the actual
days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some watts, suzuki, but i'm not sure
about them.. it's for a present. thanks.

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On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:35 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:

> Tao Te Ching.

Has nothing to do with Zen.

Jeff

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     I've been using the Emu XL-7 and MP-7 for the past 10 years or
so.  They are the upgraded Proteus 2000 modules, exactly the same as
the Proteus 2500, just a different box.  I'd recommend getting one of
these puppies if you want to go  the Emu Rompler route.  They give you
a lot more knobs for tweaking, which of course makes editing closer to
enjoyable.  Likewise, tweaking live can be more reliable and
adjustable than the 2000 series.

     My XL-7 is stuffed to the gils with 4 ROM cards (and being used
all the time), while the MP-7 is currently sitting unused with its
MoPhatt card.  I'd let it go for cheap if anyone was interested...

     Stephen


On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Rainer Straschill
> <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Some synths tend to sound dated after a while. Good ones don't. Of
>> course, to keep the things from sounding dated may require you to
>> actually invest the time and brains to get into programming some
>> sounds yourself. E-mu's Proteus series modules (especially the later
>> ones) offer great possibilities for that.
>
> The early Emu models like the Procussion and the Proteus 1 sound a
> little flat IMO, but with fx, Eq and compression, they came to live in
> a mix. Also, the avg quality of rom samples is better now than in the
> late 80's and 90's so that another reason...if you are looking for
> real instruments sounds like piano, trumpets. Especially piano's are a
> good example of how technology has improved.
>
> Anyway, that's what I mean with "dated", not saying that every synth
> has to sound like the real deal which was clearly THE trend in the
> 80's and 90's. Once the VA's and analog synths were becoming popular
> in the mid 90's, the "best rompler synth" race was more or less
> over...but that's another story :)
> --
> Sjaak Overgaauw
> http://premonitionfactory.com/
> http://livelooping.be/
> http://euroloopfest.com/
>
>

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On Nov 24, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Tony K wrote:

> I read Zen and the Art of Archery when I was around that age.   
> Quite good.

And, there are also the classic "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle  
Maintenance" and the later "follow up" book "Zen and the Art of  
Volkswagen Maintenance".
I read "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" years ago and  
thought it was great. However, it is not "officially" a "Zen"  book,  
but still great reading, nonetheless.
I never read "Zen and the Art of Volkswagen Maintenance" and there is  
also another book with a very similar title called "Prayer and the  
Art of Volkswagen Maintenance"
which I would not personally be drawn to reading, especially after  
reading a synopsis of it. But, that's just me. :-)

Best wishes,
Rev. Fever
Portland,OR

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On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Ruelle Benoit <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> wrot=
e:
> If really sampled sounds is important then waldorf blofeld or clavia
> nordwave (+expensive) are solutions too.
> At least you still have some synthesis power when needed which might not =
be
> the case whith a sp555 for instance.
> The blofeld seems a bargain but I haven't tried it yet.
>
> Ben.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill"
> <moinsound@googlemail.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:49 PM
> Subject: AW: Taking VSTs out on the road
>
>
>> so whats would you be looking at now if you had a budget of =A3400 - $60=
0 go
>
> ebaying for old stuff or look at something like the korg microsampler?
>
> So that's a budget of $600-$660 ;)? I will now assume you meant to type
> $400-$600...
>
>> i cant get my head around the specs, i live in a world where my nintendo
>
> DS has a 16 GB micro SD card in it , yet many of the samplers im looking =
at
>>
>> surely someone in the tech world is still making this kind of stuff?
>
> Let's face it: the high-quality hardware sampler has (almost) vanished fr=
om
> the market. People who had been using something like an Akai S series, E-=
Mu
> Emulator or similar in a studio setting in the past use a computer today.
> Example: NI Kontakt 4. People who used one onstage use a synth workstatio=
n
> where you can load samples (those devices don't have a sampling option,
> because - yes, you guessed right - people use a computer for this). Examp=
le:
> Roland Fantom XR.
> The only hardware samplers (being things that not only can playback but a=
lso
> record samples) seem to be aimed at the more beat-oriented/DJ crowd - apa=
rt
> frm things like a Roland SP-555, there' still the Akai MPC series.
>
>> the irony is, i think i know the answer and its.....yup.on a laptop!!!!
>
> Here, you said it yourself...
>
> Ah, and if that weren't enough, storing and transferring data with those
> older devices is often a hassle. The standard for this used to be SCSI
> (which means SCSI harddisk and SCSI interface for your computer).
>
> Perhaps the simple solution really IS to use a sound module with sounds y=
ou
> like, and go with that...;)
>
>

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yes, i liked that one too. Alan Watts is the man for Zen / Taoist writing.
he's written many excellent books on the subject

sim

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> On Nov 24, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Tony K wrote:
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> I read Zen and the Art of Archery when I was around that age.  Quite good.
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yes, i liked that one too. Alan Watts is the man for Zen / Taoist writing. =
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At the risk of adding a confusion of plentitude=2C I found this book beauti=
ful in its simplicity:
Nothing Special=2C Living Zen aka =20
La vida tal como es=2C  Ensenanzas Sobren Zen=20


by Charlotte Joko
namaste

G

Date: Tue=2C 24 Nov 2009 23:30:29 +0100
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guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young person=2C =
an intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and adapted to the actu=
al days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some watts=2C suzuki=2C but i'm =
not sure about them.. it's for a present. thanks.

--=20
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d to the actual days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some watts=2C suzuk=
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Jeff Larson wrote:

> 
> On a modern machine you should be able to run smoothly with a 128
> 
> sample block size.  There will be one of these on both the input and
> 
> output sides for a "round trip" latency of 256 samples or 5.805
> 
> milliseconds at a sample rate of 44.1K.
> 
>  

also add in the time taken by AD/DA conversion, which I heard
gets larger as quality improves, at least 20 samples for both ways.
..and there seems to be a "Firewire Buffer" (adjustable in
an interface that I tried), 4mS or so.

I wonder if anyone measured the latency for digital hardware, much
of which doesn't have an analog dry signal.

andy butler 

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On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:47 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>wrote:

> I wonder if anyone measured the latency for digital hardware, much
> of which doesn't have an analog dry signal.
>


No, I have not measured but well used digital hardware by digital outboard
routing. When I had a TC Electronics Fireworx I used it by digital SPDIF
send/return routing and I did not have to make any manual compensation for
latency. I often adjust as short timing values as 5 milliseconds by ear so
since I did not hear anything fishy the digital round trip must have taken
less time than that.

Theoretically, Andy, wouldn't what you ask for equal measuring the "latency"
between different lines of computer code being executed by the system? Or
maybe you are thinking about "the reaction time" of specific hardware units?
In my experience, from pre in-the-box days, this is the unknown factor that
caused most timing issues.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:47 AM, andy butler <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">akbutler@tiscali.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; p=
adding-left: 1ex;">
<div id=3D":64" class=3D"ii gt">I wonder if anyone measured the latency for=
 digital hardware, much<br>
of which doesn&#39;t have an analog dry signal.</div></blockquote></div><br=
><br>No, I have not measured but well used digital hardware by digital outb=
oard routing. When I had a TC Electronics Fireworx I used it by digital SPD=
IF send/return routing and I did not have to make any manual compensation f=
or latency. I often adjust as short timing values as 5 milliseconds by ear =
so since I did not hear anything fishy the digital round trip must have tak=
en less time than that. <br>
<br>Theoretically, Andy, wouldn&#39;t what you ask for equal measuring the =
&quot;latency&quot; between different lines of computer code being executed=
 by the system? Or maybe you are thinking about &quot;the reaction time&quo=
t; of specific hardware units? In my experience, from pre in-the-box days, =
this is the unknown factor that caused most timing issues.<br>
<br>Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen <br><a href=3D"http://www.boyse=
n.se">www.boysen.se</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.com">www.perboys=
en.com</a><br>

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ideal

Jeff Shirkey wrote:
> 
> On Nov 24, 2009, at 7:35 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote:
> 
>> Tao Te Ching.
> 
> Has nothing to do with Zen.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 

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Hi,

I just discovered this VST:
>From the Website (http://prodyon.kilu.de/livemachine.html).

Windows(TM) VST2.0 Effect                                               
8 stereo recording loopers + low- and highpass combi-filters.           
Reverse playback.                                                       
Variable recording lengths (up to 20 seconds per channel).              
Six stereo WAV playback channels (user-loadable, disk-streaming).       
Synced Drumsampler with 12 Parts and "One-Bar"-looping. (+ overdub).    
                                                                        
Resampling of every channel in realtime.                                
Input effects section with reverb, delay, ringmodulation to name a few. 
Built-in voice controlled synthesizer with 3 unique modes.              
Built-in 16-bands stereo vocoder (WAV players/loopers act as carrier).  
Two stereo audio outputs (1 Main / 1 Cue with click sound).             
VU/Peak-metres for every in- and output channel + MIDI CC mapping.      
Realtime click/pop-free effects operation.                              
MIDI learn for almost any onscreen-control.                             
Standalone and VST operation.                                           
Custom coded C++ SE modules.                                            
MIDI keyboard with at least 49 keys strongly recommended.               

Just to let you know

Ben.

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Anyone using a programmable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars?
Just tried this with my ADA PitchTraq.  I used the Effects Out jack 
only, set direct to zero and effects to 100 (full).
Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning, -200 a D tuning etc..
However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when used this way.

Any devices on the market which can do this?
Preferably without too many gadgets, so I won't have to rob a bank ;)

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Hi all=2C

well after a week of sitting at my desk whilst pretending to do my work whi=
lst youtubing and googling  like mad=2C I am starting to get an idea of wha=
t I might be looking for=2C=20
the Roland Fantom XR loks super tastey I have heard the samples which sound=
 great then i have also seen someone load in samples to create their own pr=
esets via compactflash=2C which agian is a method and interface i like.....=
....then you have the fact its upgradable.

what are peoples feelings on the unit? any one got one...or has anyone got =
new advice for stuff i should be hearing and trying now you know what im lo=
oking for?

I looked at the proteus stuff and really liked the Phatt and Techno racks.s=
omething to keep one eye out for as i have seen a lot of rack stuff in loca=
l second hand stores but have ignored them as not for me up to now.

cheers

Phill

> From: benoitruelle@yahoo.fr
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Taking VSTs out on the road
> Date: Fri=2C 20 Nov 2009 18:12:10 +0100
>=20
> If really sampled sounds is important then waldorf blofeld or clavia=20
> nordwave (+expensive) are solutions too.
> At least you still have some synthesis power when needed which might not =
be=20
> the case whith a sp555 for instance.
> The blofeld seems a bargain but I haven't tried it yet.
>=20
> Ben.
>=20
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Rainer Straschill" <moinsound@googlemail.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Friday=2C November 20=2C 2009 5:49 PM
> Subject: AW: Taking VSTs out on the road
>=20
>=20
> > so whats would you be looking at now if you had a budget of =A3400 - $6=
00 go
> ebaying for old stuff or look at something like the korg microsampler?
>=20
> So that's a budget of $600-$660 =3B)? I will now assume you meant to type
> $400-$600...
>=20
> > i cant get my head around the specs=2C i live in a world where my ninte=
ndo
> DS has a 16 GB micro SD card in it =2C yet many of the samplers im lookin=
g at
> > surely someone in the tech world is still making this kind of stuff?
>=20
> Let's face it: the high-quality hardware sampler has (almost) vanished fr=
om
> the market. People who had been using something like an Akai S series=2C =
E-Mu
> Emulator or similar in a studio setting in the past use a computer today.
> Example: NI Kontakt 4. People who used one onstage use a synth workstatio=
n
> where you can load samples (those devices don't have a sampling option=2C
> because - yes=2C you guessed right - people use a computer for this). Exa=
mple:
> Roland Fantom XR.
> The only hardware samplers (being things that not only can playback but a=
lso
> record samples) seem to be aimed at the more beat-oriented/DJ crowd - apa=
rt
> frm things like a Roland SP-555=2C there' still the Akai MPC series.
>=20
> > the irony is=2C i think i know the answer and its.....yup.on a laptop!!=
!!
>=20
> Here=2C you said it yourself...
>=20
> Ah=2C and if that weren't enough=2C storing and transferring data with th=
ose
> older devices is often a hassle. The standard for this used to be SCSI
> (which means SCSI harddisk and SCSI interface for your computer).
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> Perhaps the simple solution really IS to use a sound module with sounds y=
ou
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also seen someone load in samples to create their own presets via compactfl=
ash=2C which agian is a method and interface i like.........then you have t=
he fact its upgradable.<br><br>what are peoples feelings on the unit? any o=
ne got one...or has anyone got new advice for stuff i should be hearing and=
 trying now you know what im looking for?<br><br>I looked at the proteus st=
uff and really liked the Phatt and Techno racks.something to keep one eye o=
ut for as i have seen a lot of rack stuff in local second hand stores but h=
ave ignored them as not for me up to now.<br><br>cheers<br><br>Phill<br><br=
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e: Fri=2C 20 Nov 2009 18:12:10 +0100<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B If really sampled=
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xpensive) are solutions too.<br>&gt=3B At least you still have some synthes=
is power when needed which might not be <br>&gt=3B the case whith a sp555 f=
or instance.<br>&gt=3B The blofeld seems a bargain but I haven't tried it y=
et.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Ben.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B ----- Origina=
l Message ----- <br>&gt=3B From: "Rainer Straschill" &lt=3Bmoinsound@google=
mail.com&gt=3B<br>&gt=3B To: &lt=3BLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com&gt=
=3B<br>&gt=3B Sent: Friday=2C November 20=2C 2009 5:49 PM<br>&gt=3B Subject=
: AW: Taking VSTs out on the road<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B so=
 whats would you be looking at now if you had a budget of =A3400 - $600 go<=
br>&gt=3B ebaying for old stuff or look at something like the korg microsam=
pler?<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B So that's a budget of $600-$660 =3B)? I will now=
 assume you meant to type<br>&gt=3B $400-$600...<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B &gt=
=3B i cant get my head around the specs=2C i live in a world where my ninte=
ndo<br>&gt=3B DS has a 16 GB micro SD card in it =2C yet many of the sample=
rs im looking at<br>&gt=3B &gt=3B surely someone in the tech world is still=
 making this kind of stuff?<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Let's face it: the high-qu=
ality hardware sampler has (almost) vanished from<br>&gt=3B the market. Peo=
ple who had been using something like an Akai S series=2C E-Mu<br>&gt=3B Em=
ulator or similar in a studio setting in the past use a computer today.<br>=
&gt=3B Example: NI Kontakt 4. People who used one onstage use a synth works=
tation<br>&gt=3B where you can load samples (those devices don't have a sam=
pling option=2C<br>&gt=3B because - yes=2C you guessed right - people use a=
 computer for this). Example:<br>&gt=3B Roland Fantom XR.<br>&gt=3B The onl=
y hardware samplers (being things that not only can playback but also<br>&g=
t=3B record samples) seem to be aimed at the more beat-oriented/DJ crowd - =
apart<br>&gt=3B frm things like a Roland SP-555=2C there' still the Akai MP=
C series.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B &gt=3B the irony is=2C i think i know the an=
swer and its.....yup.on a laptop!!!!<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Here=2C you said =
it yourself...<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Ah=2C and if that weren't enough=2C sto=
ring and transferring data with those<br>&gt=3B older devices is often a ha=
ssle. The standard for this used to be SCSI<br>&gt=3B (which means SCSI har=
ddisk and SCSI interface for your computer).<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Perhaps t=
he simple solution really IS to use a sound module with sounds you<br>&gt=
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On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:31 PM, phillip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.com> wrote:
> the Roland Fantom XR loks super tastey I have heard the samples which sound
> great then i have also seen someone load in samples to create their own
> presets via compactflash, which agian is a method and interface i
> like.........then you have the fact its upgradable.
>
> what are peoples feelings on the unit? any one got one...or has anyone got
> new advice for stuff i should be hearing and trying now you know what im
> looking for?

I've used Fantom-XR. It's a professional synth module with a good
sound, a built-in sampler to import your own samples, and up to 6
Srx-expension boards for additional rom samples and patches. You can
also edit sounds from your PC via USB. Nothing wrong with it imo.
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On Nov 25, 2009, at 4:08 AM, andy butler wrote:

> ideal

Only if you don't know what you're talking about. If so, then, sure. lol

Jeff

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eventide. detune, retune, any sort of pitchshifting with impressive realism=
.

digitech dhp-33 and -55 both do good jobs as well and cost about
1/10th what an eventide will run you.

- jim

On Wednesday, November 25, 2009, van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> wrote=
:
> Anyone using a programmable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars?
> Just tried this with my ADA PitchTraq. =A0I used the Effects Out jack onl=
y, set direct to zero and effects to 100 (full).
> Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning, -200 a D tuning etc..
> However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when used this way.
>
> Any devices on the market which can do this?
> Preferably without too many gadgets, so I won't have to rob a bank ;)
>
> --
> rgds,
> van Sinn
>
>

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That Eventides can do it doesn't surprise me; too expensive though..

Do the dhp series handle full chords well?
How about artefacts, tonewise?
IIRC, there are quality differences between the two versions..

I'll need one that'll handle at least 7-stringers, and next year also 
eight strings.
At the moment I need to downtune an E-E tuned 6-stringer to Eb, D, C and 
uptune to F and F#.


james fowler wrote:
> eventide. detune, retune, any sort of pitchshifting with impressive realism.
> 
> digitech dhp-33 and -55 both do good jobs as well and cost about
> 1/10th what an eventide will run you.
> 
> - jim
> 
> On Wednesday, November 25, 2009, van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> wrote:
> 
>>Anyone using a programmable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars?
>>Just tried this with my ADA PitchTraq.  I used the Effects Out jack only, set direct to zero and effects to 100 (full).
>>Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning, -200 a D tuning etc..
>>However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when used this way.
>>
>>Any devices on the market which can do this?
>>Preferably without too many gadgets, so I won't have to rob a bank ;)


-- 
rgds,
van Sinn

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> That Eventides can do it doesn't surprise me; too expensive though..

Try the PitchFactor?

>
> Do the dhp series handle full chords well?
> How about artefacts, tonewise?
> IIRC, there are quality differences between the two versions..
>

the 33-b and the 55 models are the same.

Jeff

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VG99, but you'll have to get a GK pickup for your guitar.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:52 AM, van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> wrote:

> Anyone using a programmable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars?
> Just tried this with my ADA PitchTraq.  I used the Effects Out jack only,
> set direct to zero and effects to 100 (full).
> Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning, -200 a D tuning etc..
> However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when used this way.
>
> Any devices on the market which can do this?
> Preferably without too many gadgets, so I won't have to rob a bank ;)
>
> --
> rgds,
> van Sinn
>
>


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VG99, but you&#39;ll have to get a GK pickup for your guitar.<br><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:52 AM, van Sinn <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vansinn@post.cybercity.dk">vansinn@post.cyberci=
ty.dk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Anyone using a pr=
ogrammable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars?<br>
Just tried this with my ADA PitchTraq. =A0I used the Effects Out jack only,=
 set direct to zero and effects to 100 (full).<br>
Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning, -200 a D tuning etc..<br>
However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when used this way.<br>
<br>
Any devices on the market which can do this?<br>
Preferably without too many gadgets, so I won&#39;t have to rob a bank ;)<b=
r>
<br>
-- <br>
rgds,<br><font color=3D"#888888">
van Sinn<br>
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Are you implying that Tao has nothing to do with the concept of Zen?  Or 
just books of the 20th century?  "The Tao of Zen" by Ray Grigg was published 
in 1994, and argued that "much of Zen Buddhism was almost entirely grounded 
in Taoist philosophy, though this fact is well shrouded by the persistence 
of Mahayana Buddhist institutional trappings."

So I suppose this is a quasi-religious argument that has gone on for as long 
as modern Buddhism has existed, and shall continue as long as people wish to 
argue about it.

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>
> On Nov 25, 2009, at 4:08 AM, andy butler wrote:
>
>> ideal
>
> Only if you don't know what you're talking about. If so, then, sure. lol
>
> Jeff 

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On Nov 25, 2009, at 3:10 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:

> Alan Watts is the man for Zen / Taoist writing. he's written many  
> excellent books on the subject
>

No, he's not. Try Stephen Bokencamp or Rob Campany (in English, that  
is).

Jeff

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This gizmo was mentioned the other day. Don't know anyone who's tried it but it looks interesting. 

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Morpheus-DropTune-Octave-Guitar-Effects-Pedal?sku=583554 

Chris 

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Anyone using a programmable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars? 
Just tried this with my ADA PitchTraq. I used the Effects Out jack 
only, set direct to zero and effects to 100 (full). 
Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning, -200 a D tuning etc.. 
However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when used this way. 

Any devices on the market which can do this? 
Preferably without too many gadgets, so I won't have to rob a bank ;) 

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rgds, 
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I owned once a dhp33 and had a dhp55 and also a Evetide DSP4000 at that 
time for testing, so I could compare. Today I own a digitech TSR24S. If 
you use the algorithm for narrow shifting (don't know its name at the 
moment), then all the digitechs have an astonishing quality in pitch 
shifting - for sure comparable to the Eventide.
I also remember the DHP-Series to have a very remarkable algorithm for 
wider shiftings; this algorithm had the slight disadvantage, that it had 
a very short delay, which might disturb the guitar player because the 
sound does fit to the feeling in your finger tips. But for sure not 
audible for the audience. The TSR24 is not that good in wider shifts.

Florain

james fowler schrieb:
> eventide. detune, retune, any sort of pitchshifting with impressive realism.
> 
> digitech dhp-33 and -55 both do good jobs as well and cost about
> 1/10th what an eventide will run you.
> 
> - jim
> 
> On Wednesday, November 25, 2009, van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> wrote:
>> Anyone using a programmable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars?
>> Just tried this with my ADA PitchTraq.  I used the Effects Out jack only, set direct to zero and effects to 100 (full).
>> Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning, -200 a D tuning etc..
>> However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when used this way.
>>
>> Any devices on the market which can do this?
>> Preferably without too many gadgets, so I won't have to rob a bank ;)
>>
>> --
>> rgds,
>> van Sinn
>>
>>
> 
> 

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Florian Anwander wrote:
> I owned once a dhp33 and had a dhp55 and also a Evetide DSP4000 at that 
> time for testing, so I could compare. Today I own a digitech TSR24S. If 
> you use the algorithm for narrow shifting (don't know its name at the 
> moment), then all the digitechs have an astonishing quality in pitch 
> shifting - for sure comparable to the Eventide.
> I also remember the DHP-Series to have a very remarkable algorithm for 
> wider shiftings; this algorithm had the slight disadvantage, that it had 
> a very short delay, which might disturb the guitar player because the 
> sound does fit to the feeling in your finger tips. But for sure not 
> audible for the audience. The TSR24 is not that good in wider shifts.

Yeah, I actually have two TSR24's (one with Dieter's PPC module), but 
haven't had it hooked up in front of my rig.
I'm using one input and two outputs for effects in a S/R loop, and would 
use the other input and one aux output for stacking-up a clean channel 
in parallel to my other preamp, an ADA MP-2.
With one aux output left over, this means I can actually plug the guitar 
into the TSR (through a small preamp), route the remaining aux output as 
input to my MP-2, and still use it to stack-up a clean channel.  Cute ;)

Though I really like the TSR24 pitch/harmonizing, I wouldn't say it's 
Eventide quality, though by far good enough for my uses.
I just haven't tried using it for up/down-tuning a whole instrument, 
though I believe it'll work. Algorithms are nicely fast, min timelag.

This setup will also allow pre-shaping filters, wah and digital whammy 
before the preamp.  I feel the need for going geeky programming :D


Jeff Shirkey wrote:
 >
 > Try the PitchFactor?

I wasn't aware it could do such things as well?  Are you sure?
It's quite a sexy compact lil'thing..


Christophe wrote:
 >
 > This gizmo was mentioned the other day.  Don't know anyone who's tried
 > it but it looks interesting.
 > 
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Morpheus-DropTune-Octave-Guitar-Effects-Pedal?sku=583554

Interesting, thanks, had'n noticed.  Only drops though..



> james fowler schrieb:
> 
>> eventide. detune, retune, any sort of pitchshifting with impressive 
>> realism.
>>
>> digitech dhp-33 and -55 both do good jobs as well and cost about
>> 1/10th what an eventide will run you.
>>
>> - jim
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 25, 2009, van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone using a programmable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars?
>>> Just tried this with my ADA PitchTraq.  I used the Effects Out jack 
>>> only, set direct to zero and effects to 100 (full).
>>> Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning, -200 a D tuning etc..
>>> However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when used this way.
>>>
>>> Any devices on the market which can do this?
>>> Preferably without too many gadgets, so I won't have to rob a bank ;)
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> rgds,
>>> van Sinn
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 


-- 
rgds,
van Sinn

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Hello

> Though I really like the TSR24 pitch/harmonizing, I wouldn't say it's 
> Eventide quality, though by far good enough for my uses.
The DHP-55 is better in shifting than the TSR24!

Florain

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I know you've gotten a lot of replies but as a Soto Zen practicioner I reco=
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this has been translated.

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Watts 'The Way of Zen' which is also a great beginners source.

Good Luck!

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Since we've discussed portability a lot on the list, as well as the 
unrelated topic of guitar pickups that split the signal per string, I 
thought I'd mention my experience auditioning a Blackbird guitar 
yesterday. Blackbirds are small-bodied (but full-scale) carbon-fiber 
acoustic guitars, made by hand in San Francisco. I became aware of them 
just a few weeks ago through this video shot by Henry Kaiser of his 
Blackbird being played underwater in Antarctica (!).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCPiPh2sWDk

Carbon fiber is incredibly stiff stuff, and survived this experience 
unscathed. (Yesterday, the maker was giving it direct full-force kicks 
to the body to show how tough it is, which almost made me lose my lunch, 
but it didn't show a mark). It's also incredibly light - the 
nylon-string I played weighs only three pounds. As a guitar, it's 
surprisingly loud, and though the body is about six inches shorter and 
four inches narrower than a regular guitar, it has a great bass 
response, as well as a really unique and clear high end. It's a very 
modern sound, which wouldn't be mistaken for a concert classical, but I 
kinda fell in love with it. Complex chords are really detailed, and the 
whole body vibrates, even the neck (which is hollow - there's a tiny 
soundhole where you'd expect a truss rod to be). I've tried out most of 
the travel guitar options, and this definitely is the one offering the 
best tone, and durability, plus a really cool look.

They offer the RMC pickup system with it, which has an individual 
saddle-mounted pickup for each string. That can be broken out 
separately, and used either in its analog form, or to drive MIDI. 
Especially given its nice acoustic clarity, I think it would work 
extremely well for individual string processing, like dropping the bass 
strings down an octave.

The guitar ain't cheap - with the RMC, about $2000 US - but if I'm lucky 
I may figure out a way to acquire one for my travels.

http://www.blackbirdguitar.com

gear on,

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com




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The ever-lovin Shure SM57 has never failed me.


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      Hello:

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Yup.  SM57.  It's pretty much the standard guitar amp mic.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Goodman
<spgoodman@earthlight.net>wrote:

>  The ever-lovin Shure SM57 has never failed me.
>
>  *From:* Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:17 PM
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Subject:* OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp
>
>   Hello:
>
> In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output capability to
> route the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm about to get a
> small wattage Marshall (Class5 -  5W) with no output feature which means I
> will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced microphone?
> THX!
>
> Regards, Paul
>
>


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Yup.=A0 SM57.=A0 It&#39;s pretty much the standard guitar amp mic.<br><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Goodman =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net">spgoodman=
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<div><font face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D"2">The ever-lovin Shure SM57 has n=
ever failed=20
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com" href=3D"mailto:p=
aulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">Paul Richards</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:17 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" href=3D"ma=
ilto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight=
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      <div>=A0</div>
      <div>Regards, Paul</div></td></tr></tbody></table><br></div></div>
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The idea of programming resonance level via carbon-fiber construction is 
just cool.

That being said my wife is buying me one of Brian May's guitars 
retrospectively for our anniversary. :)  I told her to hold off until the 
Studio is done in the late Winter/early Spring, "When I can really put it to 
work," as I put it.  Needless to say EarthLight Studios UK will be 
pretty-well soundproofed... :)

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From: "Daryl Shawn" <highhorse@mhorse.com>
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> Since we've discussed portability a lot on the list, as well as the 
> unrelated topic of guitar pickups that split the signal per string, I 
> thought I'd mention my experience auditioning a Blackbird guitar 
> yesterday. Blackbirds are small-bodied (but full-scale) carbon-fiber 
> acoustic guitars, made by hand in San Francisco. I became aware of them 
> just a few weeks ago through this video shot by Henry Kaiser of his 
> Blackbird being played underwater in Antarctica (!).
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCPiPh2sWDk
>
> Carbon fiber is incredibly stiff stuff, and survived this experience 
> unscathed. (Yesterday, the maker was giving it direct full-force kicks to 
> the body to show how tough it is, which almost made me lose my lunch, but 
> it didn't show a mark). It's also incredibly light - the nylon-string I 
> played weighs only three pounds. As a guitar, it's surprisingly loud, and 
> though the body is about six inches shorter and four inches narrower than 
> a regular guitar, it has a great bass response, as well as a really unique 
> and clear high end. It's a very modern sound, which wouldn't be mistaken 
> for a concert classical, but I kinda fell in love with it. Complex chords 
> are really detailed, and the whole body vibrates, even the neck (which is 
> hollow - there's a tiny soundhole where you'd expect a truss rod to be). 
> I've tried out most of the travel guitar options, and this definitely is 
> the one offering the best tone, and durability, plus a really cool look.
>
> They offer the RMC pickup system with it, which has an individual 
> saddle-mounted pickup for each string. That can be broken out separately, 
> and used either in its analog form, or to drive MIDI. Especially given its 
> nice acoustic clarity, I think it would work extremely well for individual 
> string processing, like dropping the bass strings down an octave.
>
> The guitar ain't cheap - with the RMC, about $2000 US - but if I'm lucky I 
> may figure out a way to acquire one for my travels.
>
> http://www.blackbirdguitar.com
>
> gear on,
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
>
> 

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SM57...

On Nov 25, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Tony K wrote:

> Yup.  SM57.  It's pretty much the standard guitar amp mic.
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net 
> > wrote:
> The ever-lovin Shure SM57 has never failed me.
>
> From: Paul Richards
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:17 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp
>
> Hello:
>
> In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output capability  
> to route the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm about  
> to get a small wattage Marshall (Class5 -  5W) with no output  
> feature which means I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a  
> reasonably priced microphone? THX!
>
> Regards, Paul
>
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type=3D"cite">Yup.&nbsp; SM57.&nbsp; It's pretty much the standard =
guitar amp mic.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 =
at 2:18 PM, Stephen Goodman <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
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Is that guitar being played? It doesn't look like to me.=20
And what a tone - yuk!

peace

G

> Date: Wed=2C 25 Nov 2009 10:06:56 -0800
> From: highhorse@mhorse.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: OT: Blackbird guitars
>=20
> Since we've discussed portability a lot on the list=2C as well as the=20
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> just a few weeks ago through this video shot by Henry Kaiser of his=20
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For sitting down, there's a separate legrest, a stiff triangle made of
leather attached with suction cups, which worked very well for me. It's a
very balanced instrument, which helps a lot, and with being so light I found
it to be quite comfortable. I tried it standing up with a strap button, too,
and found that to work well, though the round back feels a little funny
(like the Ovations).

Oh, and no, the video is very misleading, it's not the sound of this actual
guitar - in the notes Kaiser mentions that his mic wasn't working, so they
overlaid audio. It's not Kaiser playing, either (which is probably
obvious!).

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic


Thanks for sharing that Daryl.
>
> I'd have to REALLY be in love with the sound (or something) to buy a guitar
> at that price . . . and general lack of ergonomics.
>
> How does it feel playing it when seated?
>
> Ted

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For sitting down, there&#39;s a separate legrest, a stiff triangle made of =
leather attached with suction cups, which worked very well for me. It&#39;s=
 a very balanced instrument, which helps a lot, and with being so light I f=
ound it to be quite comfortable. I tried it standing up with a strap button=
, too, and found that to work well, though the round back feels a little fu=
nny (like the Ovations).<br>
<br>Oh, and no, the video is very misleading, it&#39;s not the sound of thi=
s actual guitar - in the notes Kaiser mentions that his mic wasn&#39;t work=
ing, so they overlaid audio. It&#39;s not Kaiser playing, either (which is =
probably obvious!). <br>

<br>Daryl Shawn<br><a href=3D"http://www.swanwelder.com" target=3D"_blank">=
www.swanwelder.com</a><br>www.chinapaintingmusic<br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px sol=
id rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

Thanks for sharing that Daryl.<br><br>I&#39;d have to REALLY be in love wit=
h the sound (or something) to buy a guitar at that price . . . and general =
lack of ergonomics.<br><br>How does it feel playing it when seated?<br>

<br>Ted</blockquote></div><br>

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the text that goes with the vid explains all.
The guitar was played (not by Henry), but the recording didn't come out.

...and I agree, what an awful soundtrack, dunnow if it's 
full of subtle satire...but not for me.

I was really disappointed, 
however there's plenty of Kaiser's underwater
footage on the DVD for Herzog's "Encounters at the end of the World"
which is quite stunning...and some sublime music to go with it.
...forget YouTube...get the dvd

andy butler




Gareth Whittock wrote:
> Is that guitar being played? It doesn't look like to me.
> And what a tone - yuk!
> 
> peace
> 
> G
> 
>  > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:06:56 -0800
>  > From: highhorse@mhorse.com
>  > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>  > Subject: OT: Blackbird guitars
>  >
>  > Since we've discussed portability a lot on the list, as well as the
>  > unrelated topic of guitar pickups that split the signal per string, I
>  > thought I'd mention my experience auditioning a Blackbird guitar
>  > yesterday. Blackbirds are small-bodied (but full-scale) carbon-fiber
>  > acoustic guitars, made by hand in San Francisco. I became aware of them
>  > just a few weeks ago through this video shot by Henry Kaiser of his
>  > Blackbird being played underwater in Antarctica (!).
>  >
>  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCPiPh2sWDk
>  >
>  > Carbon fiber is incredibly stiff stuff, and survived this experience
>  > unscathed. (Yesterday, the maker was giving it direct full-force kicks
>  > to the body to show how tough it is, which almost made me lose my lunch,
>  > but it didn't show a mark). It's also incredibly light - the
>  > nylon-string I played weighs only three pounds. As a guitar, it's
>  > surprisingly loud, and though the body is about six inches shorter and
>  > four inches narrower than a regular guitar, it has a great bass
>  > response, as well as a really unique and clear high end. It's a very
>  > modern sound, which wouldn't be mistaken for a concert classical, but I
>  > kinda fell in love with it. Complex chords are really detailed, and the
>  > whole body vibrates, even the neck (which is hollow - there's a tiny
>  > soundhole where you'd expect a truss rod to be). I've tried out most of
>  > the travel guitar options, and this definitely is the one offering the
>  > best tone, and durability, plus a really cool look.
>  >
>  > They offer the RMC pickup system with it, which has an individual
>  > saddle-mounted pickup for each string. That can be broken out
>  > separately, and used either in its analog form, or to drive MIDI.
>  > Especially given its nice acoustic clarity, I think it would work
>  > extremely well for individual string processing, like dropping the bass
>  > strings down an octave.
>  >
>  > The guitar ain't cheap - with the RMC, about $2000 US - but if I'm lucky
>  > I may figure out a way to acquire one for my travels.
>  >
>  > http://www.blackbirdguitar.com
>  >
>  > gear on,
>  >
>  > Daryl Shawn
>  > www.swanwelder.com
>  > www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>  >
>  >
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Thanks Andy=2C=20
Fancy going to all that trouble and not getting the sound right - tut tut =
=3B-)

I will check out "Encounters" on your recommendation.

Peace

G


> Date: Wed=2C 25 Nov 2009 19:59:56 +0000
> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: OT: Blackbird guitars
>=20
> the text that goes with the vid explains all.
> The guitar was played (not by Henry)=2C but the recording didn't come out=
.
>=20
> ...and I agree=2C what an awful soundtrack=2C dunnow if it's=20
> full of subtle satire...but not for me.
>=20
> I was really disappointed=2C=20
> however there's plenty of Kaiser's underwater
> footage on the DVD for Herzog's "Encounters at the end of the World"
> which is quite stunning...and some sublime music to go with it.
> ...forget YouTube...get the dvd
>=20
> andy butler
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Gareth Whittock wrote:
> > Is that guitar being played? It doesn't look like to me.
> > And what a tone - yuk!
> >=20
> > peace
> >=20
> > G
> >=20
> >  > Date: Wed=2C 25 Nov 2009 10:06:56 -0800
> >  > From: highhorse@mhorse.com
> >  > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >  > Subject: OT: Blackbird guitars
> >  >
> >  > Since we've discussed portability a lot on the list=2C as well as th=
e
> >  > unrelated topic of guitar pickups that split the signal per string=
=2C I
> >  > thought I'd mention my experience auditioning a Blackbird guitar
> >  > yesterday. Blackbirds are small-bodied (but full-scale) carbon-fiber
> >  > acoustic guitars=2C made by hand in San Francisco. I became aware of=
 them
> >  > just a few weeks ago through this video shot by Henry Kaiser of his
> >  > Blackbird being played underwater in Antarctica (!).
> >  >
> >  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiCPiPh2sWDk
> >  >
> >  > Carbon fiber is incredibly stiff stuff=2C and survived this experien=
ce
> >  > unscathed. (Yesterday=2C the maker was giving it direct full-force k=
icks
> >  > to the body to show how tough it is=2C which almost made me lose my =
lunch=2C
> >  > but it didn't show a mark). It's also incredibly light - the
> >  > nylon-string I played weighs only three pounds. As a guitar=2C it's
> >  > surprisingly loud=2C and though the body is about six inches shorter=
 and
> >  > four inches narrower than a regular guitar=2C it has a great bass
> >  > response=2C as well as a really unique and clear high end. It's a ve=
ry
> >  > modern sound=2C which wouldn't be mistaken for a concert classical=
=2C but I
> >  > kinda fell in love with it. Complex chords are really detailed=2C an=
d the
> >  > whole body vibrates=2C even the neck (which is hollow - there's a ti=
ny
> >  > soundhole where you'd expect a truss rod to be). I've tried out most=
 of
> >  > the travel guitar options=2C and this definitely is the one offering=
 the
> >  > best tone=2C and durability=2C plus a really cool look.
> >  >
> >  > They offer the RMC pickup system with it=2C which has an individual
> >  > saddle-mounted pickup for each string. That can be broken out
> >  > separately=2C and used either in its analog form=2C or to drive MIDI=
.
> >  > Especially given its nice acoustic clarity=2C I think it would work
> >  > extremely well for individual string processing=2C like dropping the=
 bass
> >  > strings down an octave.
> >  >
> >  > The guitar ain't cheap - with the RMC=2C about $2000 US - but if I'm=
 lucky
> >  > I may figure out a way to acquire one for my travels.
> >  >
> >  > http://www.blackbirdguitar.com
> >  >
> >  > gear on=2C
> >  >
> >  > Daryl Shawn
> >  > www.swanwelder.com
> >  > www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
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>From personal experence the VG99 works quite well in this regard.

---- Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote: 

=============
VG99, but you'll have to get a GK pickup for your guitar.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:52 AM, van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> wrote:

> Anyone using a programmable pitchtransposer for retuning guitars?
> Just tried this with my ADA PitchTraq.  I used the Effects Out jack only,
> set direct to zero and effects to 100 (full).
> Setting Cents to -100 gives me an Eb tuning, -200 a D tuning etc..
> However, the tone is a bit flaky/blurred when used this way.
>
> Any devices on the market which can do this?
> Preferably without too many gadgets, so I won't have to rob a bank ;)
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Date: Wed=2C 25 Nov 2009 11:17:12 -0800
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To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com






Hello:
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> In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output capability to
route the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm about to get a
small 
> wattage Marshall (Class5 -  5W) with no output feature which means I will
have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced microphone? THX!

Beyer M201.

An alternative (if you're not after the sound of the amp's speaker) could be
a load connected instead of the speaker, then from that to your line in:
http://www.thdelectronics.com/product_page_hotplate.html

	Rainer

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wonderful. i still listening all the great suggestions coming and searching
through the web if some quick online bookstore does have a translated
version. i found some of them, specially the classics. "zen bones, zen
flesh" is in english only. i think, i'll pick some of these for myself :-).
thanks friends!

2009/11/25 Jeremy devros <deafrose58@hotmail.com>

>  I know you've gotten a lot of replies but as a Soto Zen practicioner I
> recommend Shunryu Suzuki ( NOT D.T.!) 'Zen Mind, Beginners Mind' --I imagine
> this has been translated.
> Also, see if you can find Red Pine's translation of 'The Heart Sutra'
> --Both books are wonderful, easy to read, and ultimately DEEP on further
> readings and deeper understanding of Zen. My own first book on Zen was Alan
> Watts 'The Way of Zen' which is also a great beginners source.
> Good Luck!
>
> J.D.Devros
> deafrose58
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:30:29 +0100
> Subject: OT: zen for beginners
> From: raul.bonell@gmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen book for a young person, an
> intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understand and adapted to the actual
> days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some watts, suzuki, but i'm not sure
> about them.. it's for a present. thanks.
>
> --
> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it
> now.<http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1>
>



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wonderful. i still listening all the great suggestions coming and searching=
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ion. i found some of them, specially the classics. &quot;zen bones, zen fle=
sh&quot; is in english only. i think, i&#39;ll pick some of these for mysel=
f :-). thanks friends!<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/11/25 Jeremy devros <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
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<div>
I know you&#39;ve gotten a lot of replies but as a Soto Zen practicioner I =
recommend Shunryu Suzuki ( NOT D.T.!) &#39;Zen Mind, Beginners Mind&#39; --=
I imagine this has been translated.<br>
Also, see if you can=A0find Red Pine&#39;s translation of &#39;The Heart Su=
tra&#39; --Both books are wonderful, easy to read, and ultimately DEEP on f=
urther readings and deeper understanding of Zen. My own first book on Zen w=
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Good Luck!<br>
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J.D.Devros <br>
deafrose58<div class=3D"im"><br>=A0<br>
<hr>
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:30:29 +0100<br>Subject: OT: zen for beginners<br>=
From: <a href=3D"mailto:raul.bonell@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">raul.bonel=
l@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a><br>
<br></div><div class=3D"im">guys! may you point me to some good starter Zen=
 book for a young person, an intelligent teenager near 18? easy to understa=
nd and adapted to the actual days? maybe some tich naht hanh? i have some w=
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nks.<br clear=3D"all">
<br>-- <br>Raul Bonell at Blogger: <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.co=
m/" target=3D"_blank">http://raulbonell.blogspot.com</a><br>Chain Tape Coll=
ective: <a href=3D"http://www.ct-collective.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://=
www.ct-collective.com</a><br>
<br> 		 	   		  <br></div><hr>Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews orga=
nized in one place. <a href=3D"http://www.bing.com/search?q=3Drestaurants&a=
mp;form=3DMFESRP&amp;publ=3DWLHMTAG&amp;crea=3DTEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_R=
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell at Blogger:=
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<br>

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You might try the  Shure beta 57 as it has more output and better feedback
rejection and sounds like a slightly more present and beefy sounding 57 to
my ears. I've been happy with mine. The Betas are even more rugged than the
SM57 if that's possible. Also the Sennheiser 409 is one my engineer friend
really digs and doesn't require a mic stand as it hangs nicely over the
front of the amp and is a large diaphragm mic.  Another possible solution is
a speaker emulator like the TAD FANTA direct box or a Hughes and Ketner red
box, which would patch between the power amp and speaker and completely
eliminate the possibility of leakage of ambient noise. I believe the Class
5,  if that's what you are getting has a headphone out that may have a
decent speaker emulator as well. You might want to check that out as well.

 Bill

 

 

  _____  

From: Paul Richards [mailto:paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:17 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp

 


Hello:

 

In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output capability to
route the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm about to get a
small wattage Marshall (Class5 -  5W) with no output feature which means I
will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced microphone?
THX!

 

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with mine.
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Also the
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require
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FANTA
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power
amp and speaker and completely eliminate the possibility of leakage of =
ambient
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On Nov 25, 2009, at 7:41 AM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:

>
> "El Topo" by Alejandro Jodorowsky
> wow.....i was thinking about this movie just the other day.....scary!

I guess "scary" to some folks. :-)

> .....zen huh?.....

Jodorowsky studied for a long time under a Zen master (this was also  
in Mexico), and I think(?) was still studying under this same master  
when he conceived and made the film.
Jodo referred to his film 'El Topo' as an "Eastern", as opposed to  
the well known Hollywood "Western" films. As a friend of mine put it  
so  well one time: "'El Topo' is an allegorical,
metaphysical, Zen, spaghetti Western, splatter film". Any of the  
blood in the film is not gratuitous, but is symbolic of something.   
Actually, most scenes (or all of them?)
in that film were calculated in advance to be scenes of symbolism,  
and much was derived, etc, from Zen.  But once again this film is  
certainly not for everyone,
so be aware of that for anyone has not seen it.

( I also would not be too quick to recommend it to a very young  
person, both for some of it's "intensity" and also some of it's  
"adult" subject matter and scenes.)

Best,
Rev. Fever
Portland, OR
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
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 <br><div><div>On Nov 25, 2009, at 7:41 AM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:nemoguitt@aol.com">nemoguitt@aol.com</a> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><font =
color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"arial"> <div> <br> </div> <div =
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style=3D"border-left: 2px solid blue; padding-left: 3px;"> "El Topo" by =
Alejandro Jodorowsky</blockquote></div> <div> <font size=3D"2"><font =
face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">wow.....i was thinking about this =
movie just the other =
day.....scary!</font></font></div></font></blockquote><div><br></div>I =
guess "scary" to some folks. :-)</div><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"arial"><div><font =
size=3D"2"><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">.....zen =
huh?.....</font></font></div></font></blockquote><div><br></div>Jodorowsky=
 studied for a long time under a Zen master (this was also in Mexico), =
and I think(?) was still studying under this same master when he =
conceived and made the film.</div><div>Jodo referred to his film 'El =
Topo' as an "Eastern", as opposed to the well known Hollywood "Western" =
films. As a friend of mine put it so &nbsp;well one time:&nbsp;"'El =
Topo' is an allegorical,&nbsp;</div><div>metaphysical,&nbsp;Zen, =
spaghetti Western, splatter film". Any of the blood in the film is not =
gratuitous, but is symbolic of something. &nbsp;Actually, most scenes =
(or all of them?)&nbsp;</div><div>in that film were calculated in =
advance to be scenes of symbolism, and much was derived, etc, from Zen. =
&nbsp;But once again this film is certainly not for =
everyone,&nbsp;</div><div>so be aware of that for anyone has not seen =
it.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>( I also would not be too quick to =
recommend it to a very young person, both for some of it's "intensity" =
and also some of it's "adult" subject matter and =
scenes.)</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Rev. =
Fever</div><div>Portland, OR</div></body></html>=

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I've had some great results with a Rode NT2A.


cheers,
os.


2009/11/25 Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com>

> Hello:
>
> In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output capability to
> route the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm about to get a
> small wattage Marshall (Class5 -  5W) with no output feature which means I
> will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced microphone?
> THX!
>
> Regards, Paul
>
>


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div><div>cheers,</div><div>os.</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>2009/11/25 Paul Richards <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paulricha=
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Depends where you want to use it.
...and the effect you wanna get.

The SM57 has been mentioned as it's often used in studios
for that purpose, and it's cheap. It'll get the job done.
...but it has drawbacks
1) Shure mics are inconsistent to an extent that's unusual in
   a mic considered to be a standard. There's a lot of variation
    in how they sound. (to be fair, part of that's down to their
    reputation for robustness...they tend not to get looked after, then they degrade)
2) A mic that colors the sound so considerably works best if it's only used for
   one or two elements in your final mix.
3) It's not a good option as an all round mic, in case you wanted to
    use it other stuff too.
4) If you want to try the mic at a further distance from the amp
   to capture ambience, and get an alternative tone for recording, then
   a less colored mic would be better.

Of course, none of those drawbacks is necessarily a deal breaker.

An alternative would be a decent small diaphragm condenser, something
by Rode, Octava, Beyer Dynamic. That would give you a more accurate
representation of the amp (not necessarily what you want), and
could be also be used for recording more or less anything.

Make sure you spend time finding the best mic placement, that
makes all the difference. Distance, position and angle.
My favourite is to use a condenser about an inch away on the edge 
of the speaker cone.

andy butler



Paul Richards wrote:
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>  
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> route the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm about to get 
> a small wattage Marshall (Class5 -  5W) with no output feature which 
> means I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced 
> microphone? THX!
>  
> Regards, Paul
> 
> 

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> But as i said its only working for the virtual comands=0A> and not the di=
rect midi ones and is driving me crazy!=0A> =0A> huh, 62 General reset *is*=
 a Direct Midi.=0A> ..and that's a "voila"=0A=0AHi Andy im still having pro=
blems with this and i dont know if its me or the controller but i need to k=
now otherwise i think im going to return it.=0Aheres the deal,why is it tha=
t the behringer functions perfectly and this one doesnt? on the behringer i=
 just give the note number regardless if its a virtual midi or direct midi =
and it works!=0Awith the liquid foot only the virtual ones work but i canno=
t get "general reset" (62) or any of the other ones to work! ive tried ever=
ything,setting the switch momentary,stomp tap tempo etc.=0A=0A> =0A> Is it =
possible that you mean other Direct Midi's aren't=0A> working?=0A> If they =
were SUS commands then that makes sense, and ties=0A> in with=0A> your obse=
rvation that longpress on Record (to give Reset)=0A> isn't working. =0A =0A=
all im entering is the note number and the data value of 127 and nothing el=
se!=0ABut i have discovered something:=0Awhen i reset the echoplex by holdi=
ng and pressing the record button ,then when i send the general reset coman=
d from the liquid foot it seems to triger it,but then when i use the record=
 button it doesnt work anymore!it also seems to put the edp in a weird mode=
,that is when i try to reset it by holding and pressing th record button it=
 seems as if it was locked and then i press it a second time and it resets,=
any ideas? ive been even thinking of sending it to you so you can check it =
out but i dont know if that would be ok with you,plus you could do a compar=
ison between the gordius and this one;-)=0Athanx for your always great help=
 man i really apreciate it!=0A=0A=0A> =0A> My guess is that your controller=
 is sending=0A> Note-On/Note-Off pairs on=0A> pressing the switch, not wait=
ing for you to release it=0A> before sending the Note-Off.=0A> =0A> So, the=
 Direct Midi SUS commands will not be audible.=0A> (e.g. SUS Reverse would =
reverse for such a small time that=0A> you wouldn't perceive it)=0A>  =0A> =
=0A> I had a look at the manual for your controller, it=0A> describes a num=
ber=0A> of "button modes".=0A> One of those is "Momentary while Holding"=0A=
> ....that's what you want.=0A> (or whatever causes the Note-Off to be sent=
 as you=0A> *release* the switch)=0A=0Atried that but nothing either...=0A>=
 =0A> hope that helps=0A> =0A> andy=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> > =0A> > =0A> >=
 =0A> > =0A> > =0A> >>=0A> >> andy=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >=
>> cheers=0A> >>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>> ---=
 andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=0A> >> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:=0A>=
 >>>> Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=0A> >>>> Betreff: Re: progr=
aming liquid foot jr.=0A> midi=0A> >> footcontroller with EDP help!=0A> >>>=
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> >>>> Datum: Montag, 23. Novem=
ber 2009, 10:46=0A> >>>> what Per said for the DirectMidi.=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>=
> They only require Note-On (except for=0A> SUS)=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>> To get t=
he longpress(to make reset work)=0A> I'd try=0A> >> changing=0A> >>>> the B=
utton Mode to "Momentary while=0A> Holding".=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>> I d=
on't understand where you entered=0A> "64".=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>> andy=0A> >>>>=
 L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >>>>> hi gang,=0A> >>>>> i just got the litte liquid f=
oot midi=0A> >> controller and=0A> >>>> im having a hard time controlling t=
he EDP=0A> as i did=0A> >> with the=0A> >>>> behringer.=0A> >>>>> So far iv=
e manage to program the=0A> virtual=0A> >> functions=0A> >>>> like=0A> >>>>=
> record=0A> >>>>> overdub=0A> >>>>> multiply=0A> >>>>> mute=0A> >>>>> undo=
=0A> >>>>> next=0A> >>>>> reverse=0A> >>>>> half speed=0A> >>>>>=0A> >>>>> =
the way i have to do this is giving=0A> the "note=0A> >> on"=0A> >>>> offse=
t number and a value of 64 and it=0A> works=0A> >> fine.=0A> >>>>> However =
when i try to program any of=0A> the e=0A> >> DirectMidi=0A> >>>> functions=
 it does not respond at all,do i=0A> have to=0A> >> send=0A> >>>> additiona=
l comands for them to function? i=0A> recall=0A> >> on the=0A> >>>> behring=
er fcb1010 i just gave the note=0A> number and=0A> >> it=0A> >>>> worked.=
=0A> >>>>> The otherr thing that is not working=0A> is=0A> >> erasing the=
=0A> >>>> loop by holding and pressing the record=0A> button.=0A> >>>>> Any=
way if u midi experts could take a=0A> little=0A> >> time to=0A> >>>> help =
me id be really thankfull!=0A> >>>>> here is the liquid foot jr manual:=0A>=
 >>>>>=0A> >>>>> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml=0A> >>>>>=0A> >=
>>>> Thanx=0A> >>>>> cheers=0A> >>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> >>>=
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Hi Luis,
Well, probably the next thing to try is to contact the Liquid Foot guys.
(if you didn't already).
Tell them you need each switch to send a Note-On when it's pressed,
and a Note-Off when it's released.
...and nothing else.
Perhaps explain you do something called "live looping", that a lot of people
do that, and that they have special needs as regards midi pedals.
I'd expect them to be really helpful, and they may update
their software.
(Is your unit updatable?)



The manual hardly mentions Note-On at all, maybe their implementation is
a bit weird. (it seems so, you might try hooking up a midi sound module
with an organ type sound and see if that sustains while the switch is held)
Actually, the manual looks unfinished...they didn't do the midi implementation
chart yet!


Another option is to try CC commands instead.
The liquid certainly seems to have a "momentary"
option for those, designed to keep an effect switched
on while you hold the switch down.

page 64 in the manual (and maybe some earlier pages)
tells how you can just program in a CC value (same as EDP note number)
and have the switch send 127 on that CC on press, and 0 on release.

hope you get looping,soon

andy




L.Angulo wrote:
>> But as i said its only working for the virtual comands
>> and not the direct midi ones and is driving me crazy!
>>
>> huh, 62 General reset *is* a Direct Midi.
>> ..and that's a "voila"
> 
> Hi Andy im still having problems with this and i dont know if its me or the controller but i need to know otherwise i think im going to return it.
> heres the deal,why is it that the behringer functions perfectly and this one doesnt? on the behringer i just give the note number regardless if its a virtual midi or direct midi and it works!
> with the liquid foot only the virtual ones work but i cannot get "general reset" (62) or any of the other ones to work! ive tried everything,setting the switch momentary,stomp tap tempo etc.
> 
>> Is it possible that you mean other Direct Midi's aren't
>> working?
>> If they were SUS commands then that makes sense, and ties
>> in with
>> your observation that longpress on Record (to give Reset)
>> isn't working. 
>  
> all im entering is the note number and the data value of 127 and nothing else!
> But i have discovered something:
> when i reset the echoplex by holding and pressing the record button ,then when i send the general reset comand from the liquid foot it seems to triger it,but then when i use the record button it doesnt work anymore!it also seems to put the edp in a weird mode,that is when i try to reset it by holding and pressing th record button it seems as if it was locked and then i press it a second time and it resets,any ideas? ive been even thinking of sending it to you so you can check it out but i dont know if that would be ok with you,plus you could do a comparison between the gordius and this one;-)
> thanx for your always great help man i really apreciate it!
> 
> 
>> My guess is that your controller is sending
>> Note-On/Note-Off pairs on
>> pressing the switch, not waiting for you to release it
>> before sending the Note-Off.
>>
>> So, the Direct Midi SUS commands will not be audible.
>> (e.g. SUS Reverse would reverse for such a small time that
>> you wouldn't perceive it)
>>  
>>
>> I had a look at the manual for your controller, it
>> describes a number
>> of "button modes".
>> One of those is "Momentary while Holding"
>> ....that's what you want.
>> (or whatever causes the Note-Off to be sent as you
>> *release* the switch)
> 
> tried that but nothing either...
>> hope that helps
>>
>> andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>>>> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:
>>>>>> Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>>>>>> Betreff: Re: programing liquid foot jr.
>> midi
>>>> footcontroller with EDP help!
>>>>>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>>>> Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009, 10:46
>>>>>> what Per said for the DirectMidi.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They only require Note-On (except for
>> SUS)
>>>>>> To get the longpress(to make reset work)
>> I'd try
>>>> changing
>>>>>> the Button Mode to "Momentary while
>> Holding".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't understand where you entered
>> "64".
>>>>>> andy
>>>>>> L.Angulo wrote:
>>>>>>> hi gang,
>>>>>>> i just got the litte liquid foot midi
>>>> controller and
>>>>>> im having a hard time controlling the EDP
>> as i did
>>>> with the
>>>>>> behringer.
>>>>>>> So far ive manage to program the
>> virtual
>>>> functions
>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> record
>>>>>>> overdub
>>>>>>> multiply
>>>>>>> mute
>>>>>>> undo
>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>> reverse
>>>>>>> half speed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the way i have to do this is giving
>> the "note
>>>> on"
>>>>>> offset number and a value of 64 and it
>> works
>>>> fine.
>>>>>>> However when i try to program any of
>> the e
>>>> DirectMidi
>>>>>> functions it does not respond at all,do i
>> have to
>>>> send
>>>>>> additional comands for them to function? i
>> recall
>>>> on the
>>>>>> behringer fcb1010 i just gave the note
>> number and
>>>> it
>>>>>> worked.
>>>>>>> The otherr thing that is not working
>> is
>>>> erasing the
>>>>>> loop by holding and pressing the record
>> button.
>>>>>>> Anyway if u midi experts could take a
>> little
>>>> time to
>>>>>> help me id be really thankfull!
>>>>>>> here is the liquid foot jr manual:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanx
>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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anybody here using these? i've lost my esx files (just had a massive
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anybody help a brotha out?

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anybody here using these? i&#39;ve lost my esx files (just had a massive housekeepng session and i seem to have deleted the bloody things)...can anybody help a brotha out?<br><br>sim<br>

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Hi,
In case no one comes to the rescue, check this out.

http://lifehacker.com/393084/how-to-recover-deleted-files-with-free-software

Sylvain


On 11/26/09, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> anybody here using these? i've lost my esx files (just had a massive
> housekeepng session and i seem to have deleted the bloody things)...can
> anybody help a brotha out?
>
> sim
>

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<div>Hi, </div>
<div>In case no one comes to the rescue, check this out.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://lifehacker.com/393084/how-to-recover-deleted-files-w=
ith-free-software">http://lifehacker.com/393084/how-to-recover-deleted-file=
s-with-free-software</a></div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Sylvain<br><br>=A0</div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11/26/09, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername"=
>Simeon Harris</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com">sim=
eonharris40@googlemail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
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Here=E2=80=99s some raw footage of me looping it live with a house full of =
friends over two different parties(I have a small house).=0A=C2=A0=0AStyle:=
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isco etc...=C2=A0 =0A=C2=A0=0AI use an EDP/FCB1010 set up, and I=E2=80=99m =
sure you=E2=80=99ll recognize the other instruments.=0A=C2=A0=0AWatch and l=
isten and let me know what you think of these songs (not the videos my wife=
 took those and I=E2=80=99m working on getting a new camera person)=C2=A0 =
=0A=C2=A0=0AHeart Noise http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbWO3HyR-V1I=0A=C2=
=A0=0AAux Function http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DCTDLi2sMw3E=0A=C2=A0=0A=
As One http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6mEPXXgmhM8=0A=C2=A0=0ALetters Sign=
ed Paul http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpbTcU1MqL7s=0A=C2=A0=0AHope at eas=
e http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEj7-mO_cV0s=0A=C2=A0=0ANoise For a Frien=
d http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DliMDbzvqsB8=0A=C2=A0=0AFoster Disco http=
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=0A<P style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times N=
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From: "L.Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help!
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Hi Andy,=0Auff after 3 days with this thing i found it!!!=0Ai went and gave=
 all of the functions a note off comand and they all work now without inter=
fiering with each other,dont ask me why the virtual ones didnt need a note =
off and the direct midi do,beyond me!=0AI even called Jeff and went through=
 it together but he never mentioned to me sending a note off,i guess becaus=
e the virtual midi notes were working he also assumed it was something else=
 on my inability to program it.=0AYet the sustain ones still arent working =
at all and is triggering other functions but i will give your advice a try =
using CC=B4s and get back to you.=0Athere is another thing that bothers me =
with this footcontroller, if i tap really fast is not as responsive as the =
fcb1010 and it skips some of the foot taps,yes is very new on the market an=
d it is updatable with a software editor.I must admit that Jeff is a very n=
ice guy as well but i think hes up to his eye balls and cannot answer email=
s or calls right away so u are lucky if u catch him.=0ABut yes the manual p=
lain sucks as usual!=0Ato be continued=0Acheers=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisan=
gulocom=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A--- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> =
schrieb am Do, 26.11.2009:=0A=0A> Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=
=0A> Betreff: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP h=
elp!=0A> An: "LD" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>=0A> Datum: Donnerst=
ag, 26. November 2009, 5:12=0A> Hi Luis,=0A> Well, probably the next thing =
to try is to contact the=0A> Liquid Foot guys.=0A> (if you didn't already).=
=0A> Tell them you need each switch to send a Note-On when it's=0A> pressed=
,=0A> and a Note-Off when it's released.=0A> ...and nothing else.=0A> Perha=
ps explain you do something called "live looping",=0A> that a lot of people=
=0A> do that, and that they have special needs as regards midi=0A> pedals.=
=0A> I'd expect them to be really helpful, and they may update=0A> their so=
ftware.=0A> (Is your unit updatable?)=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> The manual hardly =
mentions Note-On at all, maybe their=0A> implementation is=0A> a bit weird.=
 (it seems so, you might try hooking up a midi=0A> sound module=0A> with an=
 organ type sound and see if that sustains while the=0A> switch is held)=0A=
> Actually, the manual looks unfinished...they didn't do the=0A> midi imple=
mentation=0A> chart yet!=0A> =0A> =0A> Another option is to try CC commands=
 instead.=0A> The liquid certainly seems to have a "momentary"=0A> option f=
or those, designed to keep an effect switched=0A> on while you hold the swi=
tch down.=0A> =0A> page 64 in the manual (and maybe some earlier pages)=0A>=
 tells how you can just program in a CC value (same as EDP=0A> note number)=
=0A> and have the switch send 127 on that CC on press, and 0 on=0A> release=
.=0A> =0A> hope you get looping,soon=0A> =0A> andy=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =
L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >> But as i said its only working for the virtual=0A> c=
omands=0A> >> and not the direct midi ones and is driving me=0A> crazy!=0A>=
 >>=0A> >> huh, 62 General reset *is* a Direct Midi.=0A> >> ..and that's a =
"voila"=0A> > =0A> > Hi Andy im still having problems with this and i dont=
=0A> know if its me or the controller but i need to know=0A> otherwise i th=
ink im going to return it.=0A> > heres the deal,why is it that the behringe=
r functions=0A> perfectly and this one doesnt? on the behringer i just give=
=0A> the note number regardless if its a virtual midi or direct=0A> midi an=
d it works!=0A> > with the liquid foot only the virtual ones work but i=0A>=
 cannot get "general reset" (62) or any of the other ones to=0A> work! ive =
tried everything,setting the switch=0A> momentary,stomp tap tempo etc.=0A> =
> =0A> >> Is it possible that you mean other Direct Midi's=0A> aren't=0A> >=
> working?=0A> >> If they were SUS commands then that makes sense,=0A> and =
ties=0A> >> in with=0A> >> your observation that longpress on Record (to gi=
ve=0A> Reset)=0A> >> isn't working. =0A> >=A0 =0A> > all im entering is the=
 note number and the data value=0A> of 127 and nothing else!=0A> > But i ha=
ve discovered something:=0A> > when i reset the echoplex by holding and pre=
ssing the=0A> record button ,then when i send the general reset comand=0A> =
from the liquid foot it seems to triger it,but then when i=0A> use the reco=
rd button it doesnt work anymore!it also seems=0A> to put the edp in a weir=
d mode,that is when i try to reset=0A> it by holding and pressing th record=
 button it seems as if=0A> it was locked and then i press it a second time =
and it=0A> resets,any ideas? ive been even thinking of sending it to=0A> yo=
u so you can check it out but i dont know if that would be=0A> ok with you,=
plus you could do a comparison between the=0A> gordius and this one;-)=0A> =
> thanx for your always great help man i really=0A> apreciate it!=0A> > =0A=
> > =0A> >> My guess is that your controller is sending=0A> >> Note-On/Note=
-Off pairs on=0A> >> pressing the switch, not waiting for you to=0A> releas=
e it=0A> >> before sending the Note-Off.=0A> >>=0A> >> So, the Direct Midi =
SUS commands will not be=0A> audible.=0A> >> (e.g. SUS Reverse would revers=
e for such a small=0A> time that=0A> >> you wouldn't perceive it)=0A> >>=A0=
 =0A> >>=0A> >> I had a look at the manual for your controller,=0A> it=0A> =
>> describes a number=0A> >> of "button modes".=0A> >> One of those is "Mom=
entary while Holding"=0A> >> ....that's what you want.=0A> >> (or whatever =
causes the Note-Off to be sent as=0A> you=0A> >> *release* the switch)=0A> =
> =0A> > tried that but nothing either...=0A> >> hope that helps=0A> >>=0A>=
 >> andy=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>=
>> andy=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>> cheers=0A> >=
>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> >>>>>=0A> >>>>>=0A> >>>>> --- andy b=
utler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=0A> >>>> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:=0A> >>>>=
>> Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=0A> >>>>>> Betreff: Re: progra=
ming liquid=0A> foot jr.=0A> >> midi=0A> >>>> footcontroller with EDP help!=
=0A> >>>>>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> >>>>>> Datum: Monta=
g, 23. November 2009,=0A> 10:46=0A> >>>>>> what Per said for the DirectMidi=
.=0A> >>>>>>=0A> >>>>>> They only require Note-On (except=0A> for=0A> >> SU=
S)=0A> >>>>>> To get the longpress(to make reset=0A> work)=0A> >> I'd try=
=0A> >>>> changing=0A> >>>>>> the Button Mode to "Momentary=0A> while=0A> >=
> Holding".=0A> >>>>>>=0A> >>>>>> I don't understand where you=0A> entered=
=0A> >> "64".=0A> >>>>>> andy=0A> >>>>>> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >>>>>>> hi gan=
g,=0A> >>>>>>> i just got the litte liquid=0A> foot midi=0A> >>>> controlle=
r and=0A> >>>>>> im having a hard time controlling=0A> the EDP=0A> >> as i =
did=0A> >>>> with the=0A> >>>>>> behringer.=0A> >>>>>>> So far ive manage t=
o program=0A> the=0A> >> virtual=0A> >>>> functions=0A> >>>>>> like=0A> >>>=
>>>> record=0A> >>>>>>> overdub=0A> >>>>>>> multiply=0A> >>>>>>> mute=0A> >=
>>>>>> undo=0A> >>>>>>> next=0A> >>>>>>> reverse=0A> >>>>>>> half speed=0A>=
 >>>>>>>=0A> >>>>>>> the way i have to do this is=0A> giving=0A> >> the "no=
te=0A> >>>> on"=0A> >>>>>> offset number and a value of 64=0A> and it=0A> >=
> works=0A> >>>> fine.=0A> >>>>>>> However when i try to program=0A> any of=
=0A> >> the e=0A> >>>> DirectMidi=0A> >>>>>> functions it does not respond =
at=0A> all,do i=0A> >> have to=0A> >>>> send=0A> >>>>>> additional comands =
for them to=0A> function? i=0A> >> recall=0A> >>>> on the=0A> >>>>>> behrin=
ger fcb1010 i just gave the=0A> note=0A> >> number and=0A> >>>> it=0A> >>>>=
>> worked.=0A> >>>>>>> The otherr thing that is not=0A> working=0A> >> is=
=0A> >>>> erasing the=0A> >>>>>> loop by holding and pressing the=0A> recor=
d=0A> >> button.=0A> >>>>>>> Anyway if u midi experts could=0A> take a=0A> =
>> little=0A> >>>> time to=0A> >>>>>> help me id be really thankfull!=0A> >=
>>>>>> here is the liquid foot jr=0A> manual:=0A> >>>>>>>=0A> >>>>>>> http:=
//www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml=0A> >>>>>>>=0A> >>>>>>> Thanx=0A> >>>=
>>>> cheers=0A> >>>>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> >>>>>>>=0A> >>>>>=
>>=0A> >>=0A> __________________________________________________=0A> >>>>>>=
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Subject: Re: programing liquid foot jr. midi footcontroller with EDP help!
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ok,so the EDP will accept CCs to tirgger the direct Sus comands,right?=0Ai =
did everything just using notes... i hope it does!=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=
> Another option is to try CC commands instead.=0A> The liquid certainly se=
ems to have a "momentary"=0A> option for those, designed to keep an effect =
switched=0A> on while you hold the switch down.=0A> =0A> page 64 in the man=
ual (and maybe some earlier pages)=0A> tells how you can just program in a =
CC value (same as EDP=0A> note number)=0A> and have the switch send 127 on =
that CC on press, and 0 on=0A> release.=0A> =0A> hope you get looping,soon=
=0A> =0A> andy=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >> But as i said=
 its only working for the virtual=0A> comands=0A> >> and not the direct mid=
i ones and is driving me=0A> crazy!=0A> >>=0A> >> huh, 62 General reset *is=
* a Direct Midi.=0A> >> ..and that's a "voila"=0A> > =0A> > Hi Andy im stil=
l having problems with this and i dont=0A> know if its me or the controller=
 but i need to know=0A> otherwise i think im going to return it.=0A> > here=
s the deal,why is it that the behringer functions=0A> perfectly and this on=
e doesnt? on the behringer i just give=0A> the note number regardless if it=
s a virtual midi or direct=0A> midi and it works!=0A> > with the liquid foo=
t only the virtual ones work but i=0A> cannot get "general reset" (62) or a=
ny of the other ones to=0A> work! ive tried everything,setting the switch=
=0A> momentary,stomp tap tempo etc.=0A> > =0A> >> Is it possible that you m=
ean other Direct Midi's=0A> aren't=0A> >> working?=0A> >> If they were SUS =
commands then that makes sense,=0A> and ties=0A> >> in with=0A> >> your obs=
ervation that longpress on Record (to give=0A> Reset)=0A> >> isn't working.=
 =0A> >=A0 =0A> > all im entering is the note number and the data value=0A>=
 of 127 and nothing else!=0A> > But i have discovered something:=0A> > when=
 i reset the echoplex by holding and pressing the=0A> record button ,then w=
hen i send the general reset comand=0A> from the liquid foot it seems to tr=
iger it,but then when i=0A> use the record button it doesnt work anymore!it=
 also seems=0A> to put the edp in a weird mode,that is when i try to reset=
=0A> it by holding and pressing th record button it seems as if=0A> it was =
locked and then i press it a second time and it=0A> resets,any ideas? ive b=
een even thinking of sending it to=0A> you so you can check it out but i do=
nt know if that would be=0A> ok with you,plus you could do a comparison bet=
ween the=0A> gordius and this one;-)=0A> > thanx for your always great help=
 man i really=0A> apreciate it!=0A> > =0A> > =0A> >> My guess is that your =
controller is sending=0A> >> Note-On/Note-Off pairs on=0A> >> pressing the =
switch, not waiting for you to=0A> release it=0A> >> before sending the Not=
e-Off.=0A> >>=0A> >> So, the Direct Midi SUS commands will not be=0A> audib=
le.=0A> >> (e.g. SUS Reverse would reverse for such a small=0A> time that=
=0A> >> you wouldn't perceive it)=0A> >>=A0 =0A> >>=0A> >> I had a look at =
the manual for your controller,=0A> it=0A> >> describes a number=0A> >> of =
"button modes".=0A> >> One of those is "Momentary while Holding"=0A> >> ...=
.that's what you want.=0A> >> (or whatever causes the Note-Off to be sent a=
s=0A> you=0A> >> *release* the switch)=0A> > =0A> > tried that but nothing =
either...=0A> >> hope that helps=0A> >>=0A> >> andy=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A=
> >>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>> andy=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>=
>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>> cheers=0A> >>>>> www.myspace.com/luisanguloc=
om=0A> >>>>>=0A> >>>>>=0A> >>>>> --- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=
=0A> >>>> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:=0A> >>>>>> Von: andy butler <akbutler@=
tiscali.co.uk>=0A> >>>>>> Betreff: Re: programing liquid=0A> foot jr.=0A> >=
> midi=0A> >>>> footcontroller with EDP help!=0A> >>>>>> An: Loopers-Deligh=
t@loopers-delight.com=0A> >>>>>> Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009,=0A> 10:4=
6=0A> >>>>>> what Per said for the DirectMidi.=0A> >>>>>>=0A> >>>>>> They o=
nly require Note-On (except=0A> for=0A> >> SUS)=0A> >>>>>> To get the longp=
ress(to make reset=0A> work)=0A> >> I'd try=0A> >>>> changing=0A> >>>>>> th=
e Button Mode to "Momentary=0A> while=0A> >> Holding".=0A> >>>>>>=0A> >>>>>=
> I don't understand where you=0A> entered=0A> >> "64".=0A> >>>>>> andy=0A>=
 >>>>>> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >>>>>>> hi gang,=0A> >>>>>>> i just got the lit=
te liquid=0A> foot midi=0A> >>>> controller and=0A> >>>>>> im having a hard=
 time controlling=0A> the EDP=0A> >> as i did=0A> >>>> with the=0A> >>>>>> =
behringer.=0A> >>>>>>> So far ive manage to program=0A> the=0A> >> virtual=
=0A> >>>> functions=0A> >>>>>> like=0A> >>>>>>> record=0A> >>>>>>> overdub=
=0A> >>>>>>> multiply=0A> >>>>>>> mute=0A> >>>>>>> undo=0A> >>>>>>> next=0A=
> >>>>>>> reverse=0A> >>>>>>> half speed=0A> >>>>>>>=0A> >>>>>>> the way i =
have to do this is=0A> giving=0A> >> the "note=0A> >>>> on"=0A> >>>>>> offs=
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I've always used an old (black) Sennheiser 421.  You can fiddle with  
the pad on it for different tone.  And, like the SM57, you can also  
use it as a jack hammer in a pinch! I use that into a Daking Mic Pre  
IV. Paul Smith recommended the Daking.

Having said that I haven't tried the Royer 121 that lots of guys use.   
I bet it sounds really good.

Also fun to put a mic on the front and back of cabinet if open  
cabinet.  Have to watch for phase issues.  I used a Neumann TLM103 on  
the back and the Sennheiser on the front and you can sort of tune your  
sound from dark (back) to brighter (front) using this method.  Didn't  
use this on the latest record, though.

Can't go wrong with 57s though.  Many big hit records have been made  
with them on guitar cabinets.

Most important, have fun!

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On Nov 26, 2009, at 1:28 AM, andy butler wrote:

> Depends where you want to use it.
> ...and the effect you wanna get.
>
> The SM57 has been mentioned as it's often used in studios
> for that purpose, and it's cheap. It'll get the job done.
> ...but it has drawbacks
> 1) Shure mics are inconsistent to an extent that's unusual in
>  a mic considered to be a standard. There's a lot of variation
>   in how they sound. (to be fair, part of that's down to their
>   reputation for robustness...they tend not to get looked after,  
> then they degrade)
> 2) A mic that colors the sound so considerably works best if it's  
> only used for
>  one or two elements in your final mix.
> 3) It's not a good option as an all round mic, in case you wanted to
>   use it other stuff too.
> 4) If you want to try the mic at a further distance from the amp
>  to capture ambience, and get an alternative tone for recording, then
>  a less colored mic would be better.
>
> Of course, none of those drawbacks is necessarily a deal breaker.
>
> An alternative would be a decent small diaphragm condenser, something
> by Rode, Octava, Beyer Dynamic. That would give you a more accurate
> representation of the amp (not necessarily what you want), and
> could be also be used for recording more or less anything.
>
> Make sure you spend time finding the best mic placement, that
> makes all the difference. Distance, position and angle.
> My favourite is to use a condenser about an inch away on the edge of  
> the speaker cone.
>
> andy butler
>
>
>
> Paul Richards wrote:
>> Hello:
>> In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output  
>> capability to route the signal to a looper, recording device, et  
>> al. I'm about to get a small wattage Marshall (Class5 -  5W) with  
>> no output feature which means I will have to mike it up. Any  
>> suggestions on a reasonably priced microphone? THX!
>> Regards, Paul
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On Nov 26, 2009, at 9:37 AM, "L.Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:

> ok,so the EDP will accept CCs to tirgger the direct Sus comands,right?
> i did everything just using notes... i hope it does!
> Luis
>
>
>
>
>
>> Another option is to try CC commands instead.
>> The liquid certainly seems to have a "momentary"
>> option for those, designed to keep an effect switched
>> on while you hold the switch down.
>>
>> page 64 in the manual (and maybe some earlier pages)
>> tells how you can just program in a CC value (same as EDP
>> note number)
>> and have the switch send 127 on that CC on press, and 0 on
>> release.
>>
>> hope you get looping,soon
>>
>> andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> L.Angulo wrote:
>>>> But as i said its only working for the virtual
>> comands
>>>> and not the direct midi ones and is driving me
>> crazy!
>>>>
>>>> huh, 62 General reset *is* a Direct Midi.
>>>> ..and that's a "voila"
>>>
>>> Hi Andy im still having problems with this and i dont
>> know if its me or the controller but i need to know
>> otherwise i think im going to return it.
>>> heres the deal,why is it that the behringer functions
>> perfectly and this one doesnt? on the behringer i just give
>> the note number regardless if its a virtual midi or direct
>> midi and it works!
>>> with the liquid foot only the virtual ones work but i
>> cannot get "general reset" (62) or any of the other ones to
>> work! ive tried everything,setting the switch
>> momentary,stomp tap tempo etc.
>>>
>>>> Is it possible that you mean other Direct Midi's
>> aren't
>>>> working?
>>>> If they were SUS commands then that makes sense,
>> and ties
>>>> in with
>>>> your observation that longpress on Record (to give
>> Reset)
>>>> isn't working.
>>>
>>> all im entering is the note number and the data value
>> of 127 and nothing else!
>>> But i have discovered something:
>>> when i reset the echoplex by holding and pressing the
>> record button ,then when i send the general reset comand
>> from the liquid foot it seems to triger it,but then when i
>> use the record button it doesnt work anymore!it also seems
>> to put the edp in a weird mode,that is when i try to reset
>> it by holding and pressing th record button it seems as if
>> it was locked and then i press it a second time and it
>> resets,any ideas? ive been even thinking of sending it to
>> you so you can check it out but i dont know if that would be
>> ok with you,plus you could do a comparison between the
>> gordius and this one;-)
>>> thanx for your always great help man i really
>> apreciate it!
>>>
>>>
>>>> My guess is that your controller is sending
>>>> Note-On/Note-Off pairs on
>>>> pressing the switch, not waiting for you to
>> release it
>>>> before sending the Note-Off.
>>>>
>>>> So, the Direct Midi SUS commands will not be
>> audible.
>>>> (e.g. SUS Reverse would reverse for such a small
>> time that
>>>> you wouldn't perceive it)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I had a look at the manual for your controller,
>> it
>>>> describes a number
>>>> of "button modes".
>>>> One of those is "Momentary while Holding"
>>>> ....that's what you want.
>>>> (or whatever causes the Note-Off to be sent as
>> you
>>>> *release* the switch)
>>>
>>> tried that but nothing either...
>>>> hope that helps
>>>>
>>>> andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> andy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>>>>>> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:
>>>>>>>> Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: programing liquid
>> foot jr.
>>>> midi
>>>>>> footcontroller with EDP help!
>>>>>>>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>>>>>> Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009,
>> 10:46
>>>>>>>> what Per said for the DirectMidi.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They only require Note-On (except
>> for
>>>> SUS)
>>>>>>>> To get the longpress(to make reset
>> work)
>>>> I'd try
>>>>>> changing
>>>>>>>> the Button Mode to "Momentary
>> while
>>>> Holding".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't understand where you
>> entered
>>>> "64".
>>>>>>>> andy
>>>>>>>> L.Angulo wrote:
>>>>>>>>> hi gang,
>>>>>>>>> i just got the litte liquid
>> foot midi
>>>>>> controller and
>>>>>>>> im having a hard time controlling
>> the EDP
>>>> as i did
>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>> behringer.
>>>>>>>>> So far ive manage to program
>> the
>>>> virtual
>>>>>> functions
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> record
>>>>>>>>> overdub
>>>>>>>>> multiply
>>>>>>>>> mute
>>>>>>>>> undo
>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>> reverse
>>>>>>>>> half speed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the way i have to do this is
>> giving
>>>> the "note
>>>>>> on"
>>>>>>>> offset number and a value of 64
>> and it
>>>> works
>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>>>> However when i try to program
>> any of
>>>> the e
>>>>>> DirectMidi
>>>>>>>> functions it does not respond at
>> all,do i
>>>> have to
>>>>>> send
>>>>>>>> additional comands for them to
>> function? i
>>>> recall
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>> behringer fcb1010 i just gave the
>> note
>>>> number and
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> worked.
>>>>>>>>> The otherr thing that is not
>> working
>>>> is
>>>>>> erasing the
>>>>>>>> loop by holding and pressing the
>> record
>>>> button.
>>>>>>>>> Anyway if u midi experts could
>> take a
>>>> little
>>>>>> time to
>>>>>>>> help me id be really thankfull!
>>>>>>>>> here is the liquid foot jr
>> manual:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanx
>>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
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hi Luis,
yep, the EDP will repond in the same way to CC with 127 and 0 data
values as it would to Note-On Note-Off.
Just set EDP param ControlSource = Ctr

You'll have to re-program everything to CC , but I think it'll
work.

The Liquid actually has a parameter to stop it responding "too fast".
That's why you miss some button presses.
"Button Delay", p67 in the manual should fix this.

Personally, I'd wanna check the latency on the buttons, latency
tends to creep up as features are added, sometimes no-one notices.
When I first got the Gordius it had a problem in this respect..
...Xavier fixed it pretty quickly.

You should ask that the firmware be updated to handle simple
Note-On/Note-Off,.....essential if you want to use it to 
play synth notes.

Sometimes hardware creators only imagine their devices
being used for certain tasks. You don't need Note-on
to control a guitar rig, so the feature perhaps never got tested.
That's why it's important for users to feedback about their
experiences.. a good manufacturer will take it very seriously.

Is there a "liquid Foot" forum? or a Yahoo Group? 
...there should be.

andy 




L.Angulo wrote:
> ok,so the EDP will accept CCs to tirgger the direct Sus comands,right?
> i did everything just using notes... i hope it does!
> Luis
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Another option is to try CC commands instead.
>> The liquid certainly seems to have a "momentary"
>> option for those, designed to keep an effect switched
>> on while you hold the switch down.
>>
>> page 64 in the manual (and maybe some earlier pages)
>> tells how you can just program in a CC value (same as EDP
>> note number)
>> and have the switch send 127 on that CC on press, and 0 on
>> release.
>>
>> hope you get looping,soon
>>
>> andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> L.Angulo wrote:
>>>> But as i said its only working for the virtual
>> comands
>>>> and not the direct midi ones and is driving me
>> crazy!
>>>> huh, 62 General reset *is* a Direct Midi.
>>>> ..and that's a "voila"
>>> Hi Andy im still having problems with this and i dont
>> know if its me or the controller but i need to know
>> otherwise i think im going to return it.
>>> heres the deal,why is it that the behringer functions
>> perfectly and this one doesnt? on the behringer i just give
>> the note number regardless if its a virtual midi or direct
>> midi and it works!
>>> with the liquid foot only the virtual ones work but i
>> cannot get "general reset" (62) or any of the other ones to
>> work! ive tried everything,setting the switch
>> momentary,stomp tap tempo etc.
>>>> Is it possible that you mean other Direct Midi's
>> aren't
>>>> working?
>>>> If they were SUS commands then that makes sense,
>> and ties
>>>> in with
>>>> your observation that longpress on Record (to give
>> Reset)
>>>> isn't working. 
>>>   
>>> all im entering is the note number and the data value
>> of 127 and nothing else!
>>> But i have discovered something:
>>> when i reset the echoplex by holding and pressing the
>> record button ,then when i send the general reset comand
>> from the liquid foot it seems to triger it,but then when i
>> use the record button it doesnt work anymore!it also seems
>> to put the edp in a weird mode,that is when i try to reset
>> it by holding and pressing th record button it seems as if
>> it was locked and then i press it a second time and it
>> resets,any ideas? ive been even thinking of sending it to
>> you so you can check it out but i dont know if that would be
>> ok with you,plus you could do a comparison between the
>> gordius and this one;-)
>>> thanx for your always great help man i really
>> apreciate it!
>>>
>>>> My guess is that your controller is sending
>>>> Note-On/Note-Off pairs on
>>>> pressing the switch, not waiting for you to
>> release it
>>>> before sending the Note-Off.
>>>>
>>>> So, the Direct Midi SUS commands will not be
>> audible.
>>>> (e.g. SUS Reverse would reverse for such a small
>> time that
>>>> you wouldn't perceive it)
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>> I had a look at the manual for your controller,
>> it
>>>> describes a number
>>>> of "button modes".
>>>> One of those is "Momentary while Holding"
>>>> ....that's what you want.
>>>> (or whatever causes the Note-Off to be sent as
>> you
>>>> *release* the switch)
>>> tried that but nothing either...
>>>> hope that helps
>>>>
>>>> andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> andy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>>>>>> schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:
>>>>>>>> Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: programing liquid
>> foot jr.
>>>> midi
>>>>>> footcontroller with EDP help!
>>>>>>>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>>>>>>> Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009,
>> 10:46
>>>>>>>> what Per said for the DirectMidi.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They only require Note-On (except
>> for
>>>> SUS)
>>>>>>>> To get the longpress(to make reset
>> work)
>>>> I'd try
>>>>>> changing
>>>>>>>> the Button Mode to "Momentary
>> while
>>>> Holding".
>>>>>>>> I don't understand where you
>> entered
>>>> "64".
>>>>>>>> andy
>>>>>>>> L.Angulo wrote:
>>>>>>>>> hi gang,
>>>>>>>>> i just got the litte liquid
>> foot midi
>>>>>> controller and
>>>>>>>> im having a hard time controlling
>> the EDP
>>>> as i did
>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>> behringer.
>>>>>>>>> So far ive manage to program
>> the
>>>> virtual
>>>>>> functions
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> record
>>>>>>>>> overdub
>>>>>>>>> multiply
>>>>>>>>> mute
>>>>>>>>> undo
>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>> reverse
>>>>>>>>> half speed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the way i have to do this is
>> giving
>>>> the "note
>>>>>> on"
>>>>>>>> offset number and a value of 64
>> and it
>>>> works
>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>>>> However when i try to program
>> any of
>>>> the e
>>>>>> DirectMidi
>>>>>>>> functions it does not respond at
>> all,do i
>>>> have to
>>>>>> send
>>>>>>>> additional comands for them to
>> function? i
>>>> recall
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>> behringer fcb1010 i just gave the
>> note
>>>> number and
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> worked.
>>>>>>>>> The otherr thing that is not
>> working
>>>> is
>>>>>> erasing the
>>>>>>>> loop by holding and pressing the
>> record
>>>> button.
>>>>>>>>> Anyway if u midi experts could
>> take a
>>>> little
>>>>>> time to
>>>>>>>> help me id be really thankfull!
>>>>>>>>> here is the liquid foot jr
>> manual:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.liquid-foot.com/downloads.shtml
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanx
>>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>> __________________________________________________
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>> Mail
>>>> verfügt über
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>>>>
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Hey Jason,
I like the songs, it just takes a long time to get to them...  this is a
difficulty with song-form looping.  One guy who does it really well, imo, i=
s
Andrew Bird.  I heard him in Montreal earlier this year and I was quite
impressed with how entertaining he is when layering parts.

For example in this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwRk2iHkOcNE
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwRk2iHkOcNE>Notice, in the beginning of t=
he
song, how he's performing two parts at once, one is recorded (violin) and
one is not (whistling).  The performance would not have been as enjoyable
had he not done that...  You could've have done something similar in As one=
,
loop guitar while singing and start your solo right away.  It doesn't
necessarily add to the song, but it elevates the performance quite a bit.

more Andrew Bird
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcYwUVSUd3Ko
Again very good performance.  What works well here I think is the order in
which he decides to loop the different parts, the way the layers play off
each other.  This entertaining from the first note, there is no downtime...
at no point does it feel like we're being taken out of the song for the
necessity of looping a section.  It all fits nicely together as a whole and
evolves from simple to complex.  Also notice how he throws in a bridge
without recording any further loops (and a coda section by recording part o=
f
the bridge second time around and playing it back in reverse, no downtime).

anyhow, things to think about, as they say, mostly things your videos made
me think of.
thanks for sharing and looking forward to hearing more of your playing

Sylvain

On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 8:59 AM, JASON CASKENTTE <jcaskenette@rogers.com>wr=
ote:

>  Here=92s some raw footage of me looping it live with a house full of
> friends over two different parties(I have a small house).
>
>
>
> *Style*: definitely original,  Beck(ish), Brit pop, hints of Raga, Jazz,
> and disco etc...
>
>
>
> I use an EDP/FCB1010 set up, and I=92m sure you=92ll recognize the other
> instruments.
>
> **
>
> Watch and listen and let me know what you think of these songs (not the
> videos my wife took those and I=92m working on getting a new camera perso=
n)
>
>
>
>
> Heart Noise http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbWO3HyR-V1I
>
>
>
> Aux Function http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DCTDLi2sMw3E
>
>
>
> As One http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6mEPXXgmhM8
>
>
>
> Letters Signed Paul http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpbTcU1MqL7s
>
>
>
> Hope at ease http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEj7-mO_cV0s
>
>
>
> Noise For a Friend http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DliMDbzvqsB8
>
>
>
> Foster Disco http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DmtonkYurogA
>
>
>
>

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Hey Jason,=A0<div>I like the songs, it just takes a long time to get to the=
m... =A0this is a difficulty with song-form looping. =A0One guy who does it=
 really well, imo, is Andrew Bird. =A0I heard him in Montreal earlier this =
year and I was quite impressed with how=A0entertaining=A0he is when layerin=
g parts.</div>
<div><br></div><div>For example in this video :=A0<a href=3D"http://www.you=
tube.com/watch?v=3DwRk2iHkOcNE">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwRk2iHkOcN=
E</a></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwRk2iHkOcNE"></=
a>Notice, in the=A0beginning of the song, how he&#39;s performing two parts=
 at once, one is recorded (violin) and one is not (whistling). =A0The perfo=
rmance would not have been as enjoyable had he not done that... =A0You coul=
d&#39;ve have=A0done=A0something similar in As one, loop guitar while singi=
ng and start your solo right away. =A0It doesn&#39;t necessarily add to the=
 song, but it elevates the performance quite a bit.</div>
<div><br></div><div>more Andrew Bird</div><div><a href=3D"http://www.youtub=
e.com/watch?v=3DcYwUVSUd3Ko">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcYwUVSUd3Ko</=
a></div><div>Again very good performance. =A0What works well here I think i=
s the order in which he decides to loop the different parts, the way the la=
yers play off each other. =A0This entertaining from the first note, there i=
s no downtime... at no point does it feel like we&#39;re being taken out of=
 the song for the necessity of looping a section. =A0It all fits nicely tog=
ether as a whole and evolves from simple to complex. =A0Also notice how he =
throws in a bridge without recording any further loops (and a coda section =
by recording part of the bridge second time around and playing it back in r=
everse, no downtime).</div>
<div><br></div><div>anyhow, things to think about, as they say, mostly thin=
gs your videos made me think of. =A0</div><div>thanks for sharing and looki=
ng forward to hearing more of your playing</div><div><br></div><div>Sylvain=
</div>
<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 8:59 AM, JASON =
CASKENTTE <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jcaskenette@rogers.com">j=
caskenette@rogers.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
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<div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12p=
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<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
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f friends over two different parties(I have a small house).</font></p>
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<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
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 Raga, Jazz, and disco etc...<span>=A0 </span></font></p></font>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman"></font>=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">I use an EDP/FCB1010 set up, and I=92m sure you=92ll recognize the =
other instruments.</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman"><b></b></font>=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">Watch and listen and let me know what you think of these songs (not=
 the videos my wife took those and I=92m working on getting a new camera pe=
rson)<span>=A0 </span></font></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">=A0</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">Heart Noise </font><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbWO3=
HyR-V1I" target=3D"_blank"><font color=3D"#800080" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbWO3HyR-V1I</font></a></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">=A0</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">Aux Function </font><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DCTD=
Li2sMw3E" target=3D"_blank"><font color=3D"#800080" face=3D"Times New Roman=
">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DCTDLi2sMw3E</font></a></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">=A0</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">As One </font><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6mEPXXgmh=
M8" target=3D"_blank"><font color=3D"#800080" face=3D"Times New Roman">http=
://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6mEPXXgmhM8</font></a></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">=A0</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">Letters Signed Paul </font><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?=
v=3DpbTcU1MqL7s" target=3D"_blank"><font color=3D"#800080" face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpbTcU1MqL7s</font></a><font face=
=3D"Times New Roman"> </font></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">=A0</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">Hope at ease </font><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEj7=
-mO_cV0s" target=3D"_blank"><font color=3D"#800080" face=3D"Times New Roman=
">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEj7-mO_cV0s</font></a></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">=A0</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">Noise For a Friend </font><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
=3DliMDbzvqsB8" target=3D"_blank"><font color=3D"#800080" face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DliMDbzvqsB8</font></a></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">=A0</font></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal"><font face=3D"Times New=
 Roman">Foster Disco </font><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dmto=
nkYurogA" target=3D"_blank"><font color=3D"#800080" face=3D"Times New Roman=
">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DmtonkYurogA</font></a></p>
<br>=A0</div>
<p>
</p><p><font color=3D"#0000bf" size=3D"4" face=3D"Verdana"></font></p><p></=
p></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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Hello fellow Loopers! Steve Uccello here again just sending out another rem=
inder about a house concert that I'm doing DEC 12th, featuring Looping usin=
g Upright Bass, Dobro Slide Bass, Acoustic Guitar, Percussion, if you're cu=
rious to hear/see what that might be like here's a couple of links some of =
my vids. One is from another house concert that I organized and played at:

w/ Bowed Upright Bass and lots of harmonics on electric bass:

http://www.youtube.com/user/UccelloProject#p/u/4/xK9oOzruAT4

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http://www.youtube.com/user/UccelloProject#p/u/1/8Jna7zHGSIg

Hope you enjoy the Vids, here are some of the details about the upcoming sh=
ow:

-Time: Saturday, December 12th, 2009 =A0- 7:30 pm
-Place: House Concert In Seaside, CA (USA)
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 again just sending out another reminder about a house concert that I'm doi=
ng DEC 12th, featuring Looping using Upright Bass, Dobro Slide Bass, Acoust=
ic Guitar, Percussion, if you're curious to hear/see what that might be lik=
e here's a couple of links some of my vids. One is from another house conce=
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Yes, and for music itself! : )<br>
<br>
C<br>
<br>
Daniel Berkman wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:6959FFB9-9107-4207-82A8-1AAFC6568D17@mac.com"
 type="cite">Happy Thanksgiving fellow loopers!
  <br>
Let us give thanks for such a community and for such miraculous gear!!!
  <br>
  <br>
Cheers,
  <br>
Daniel Berkman (aka. Colfax)
  <br>
  <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOkpb_fj_uA&feature=youtube_gdata">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOkpb_fj_uA&amp;feature=youtube_gdata</a>
  <br>
  <br>
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Sent from my iPhone
  <br>
  <br>
On Nov 26, 2009, at 9:37 AM, "L.Angulo" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com">&lt;labaloops@yahoo.com&gt;</a>
wrote:
  <br>
  <br>
  <blockquote type="cite">ok,so the EDP will accept CCs to tirgger the
direct Sus comands,right?
    <br>
i did everything just using notes... i hope it does!
    <br>
Luis
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite">Another option is to try CC commands
instead.
      <br>
The liquid certainly seems to have a "momentary"
      <br>
option for those, designed to keep an effect switched
      <br>
on while you hold the switch down.
      <br>
      <br>
page 64 in the manual (and maybe some earlier pages)
      <br>
tells how you can just program in a CC value (same as EDP
      <br>
note number)
      <br>
and have the switch send 127 on that CC on press, and 0 on
      <br>
release.
      <br>
      <br>
hope you get looping,soon
      <br>
      <br>
andy
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
L.Angulo wrote:
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <blockquote type="cite">But as i said its only working for the
virtual
          <br>
        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
comands
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <blockquote type="cite">and not the direct midi ones and is
driving me
          <br>
        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
crazy!
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <blockquote type="cite"><br>
huh, 62 General reset *is* a Direct Midi.
          <br>
..and that's a "voila"
          <br>
        </blockquote>
        <br>
Hi Andy im still having problems with this and i dont
        <br>
      </blockquote>
know if its me or the controller but i need to know
      <br>
otherwise i think im going to return it.
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">heres the deal,why is it that the
behringer functions
        <br>
      </blockquote>
perfectly and this one doesnt? on the behringer i just give
      <br>
the note number regardless if its a virtual midi or direct
      <br>
midi and it works!
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">with the liquid foot only the virtual
ones work but i
        <br>
      </blockquote>
cannot get "general reset" (62) or any of the other ones to
      <br>
work! ive tried everything,setting the switch
      <br>
momentary,stomp tap tempo etc.
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite"><br>
        <blockquote type="cite">Is it possible that you mean other
Direct Midi's
          <br>
        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
aren't
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <blockquote type="cite">working?
          <br>
If they were SUS commands then that makes sense,
          <br>
        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
and ties
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <blockquote type="cite">in with
          <br>
your observation that longpress on Record (to give
          <br>
        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
Reset)
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <blockquote type="cite">isn't working.
          <br>
        </blockquote>
        <br>
all im entering is the note number and the data value
        <br>
      </blockquote>
of 127 and nothing else!
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">But i have discovered something:
        <br>
when i reset the echoplex by holding and pressing the
        <br>
      </blockquote>
record button ,then when i send the general reset comand
      <br>
from the liquid foot it seems to triger it,but then when i
      <br>
use the record button it doesnt work anymore!it also seems
      <br>
to put the edp in a weird mode,that is when i try to reset
      <br>
it by holding and pressing th record button it seems as if
      <br>
it was locked and then i press it a second time and it
      <br>
resets,any ideas? ive been even thinking of sending it to
      <br>
you so you can check it out but i dont know if that would be
      <br>
ok with you,plus you could do a comparison between the
      <br>
gordius and this one;-)
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">thanx for your always great help man i
really
        <br>
      </blockquote>
apreciate it!
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite"><br>
        <br>
        <blockquote type="cite">My guess is that your controller is
sending
          <br>
Note-On/Note-Off pairs on
          <br>
pressing the switch, not waiting for you to
          <br>
        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
release it
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <blockquote type="cite">before sending the Note-Off.
          <br>
          <br>
So, the Direct Midi SUS commands will not be
          <br>
        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
audible.
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <blockquote type="cite">(e.g. SUS Reverse would reverse for
such a small
          <br>
        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
time that
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <blockquote type="cite">you wouldn't perceive it)
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
I had a look at the manual for your controller,
          <br>
        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
it
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <blockquote type="cite">describes a number
          <br>
of "button modes".
          <br>
One of those is "Momentary while Holding"
          <br>
....that's what you want.
          <br>
(or whatever causes the Note-Off to be sent as
          <br>
        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
you
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <blockquote type="cite">*release* the switch)
          <br>
        </blockquote>
        <br>
tried that but nothing either...
        <br>
        <blockquote type="cite">hope that helps
          <br>
          <br>
andy
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite"><br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <blockquote type="cite">andy
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <blockquote type="cite">cheers
                <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom">www.myspace.com/luisangulocom</a>
                <br>
                <br>
                <br>
--- andy butler <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">&lt;akbutler@tiscali.co.uk&gt;</a>
                <br>
              </blockquote>
schrieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:
              <br>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">Von: andy butler
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk">&lt;akbutler@tiscali.co.uk&gt;</a>
                  <br>
Betreff: Re: programing liquid
                  <br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
            </blockquote>
          </blockquote>
        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
foot jr.
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <blockquote type="cite">midi
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <blockquote type="cite">footcontroller with EDP help!
              <br>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">An:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>
                  <br>
Datum: Montag, 23. November 2009,
                  <br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
            </blockquote>
          </blockquote>
        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
10:46
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <blockquote type="cite">
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">what Per said for the
DirectMidi.
                  <br>
                  <br>
They only require Note-On (except
                  <br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
            </blockquote>
          </blockquote>
        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
for
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <blockquote type="cite">SUS)
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">To get the longpress(to make
reset
                  <br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
            </blockquote>
          </blockquote>
        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
work)
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <blockquote type="cite">I'd try
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <blockquote type="cite">changing
              <br>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">the Button Mode to "Momentary
                  <br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
            </blockquote>
          </blockquote>
        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
while
      <br>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <blockquote type="cite">Holding".
          <br>
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entered
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                <blockquote type="cite">andy
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L.Angulo wrote:
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                  <blockquote type="cite">hi gang,
                    <br>
i just got the litte liquid
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foot midi
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controlling
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the EDP
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multiply
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mute
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next
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the way i have to do this is
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at
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                  <blockquote type="cite">Anyway if u midi experts
could
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            <blockquote type="cite">time to
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              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">help me id be really thankfull!
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=0A> You'll have to re-program everything to CC , but I think=0A> it'll=0A>=
 work.=0A=0AHi Andy,=0AIm testing the EDP first direct midi function called=
 SUSRecord  note number 50 (36 + 14)=0Aand it does somehow respond but it e=
rases the loop and then there is a dot next to the loop number on the EDP s=
creen and all the parameter buttons are green,any idea what that means?=0A=
=0A> =0A> The Liquid actually has a parameter to stop it responding=0A> "to=
o fast".=0A> That's why you miss some button presses.=0A> "Button Delay", p=
67 in the manual should fix this.=0A=0Aunfortunately it doesnt,thats the fi=
rst thing i set when i got it,in fact i have it to the lowest setting and i=
t still happens,everything else gets faster thoguh like scrolling through b=
anks etc.=0A> =0A> Personally, I'd wanna check the latency on the buttons,=
=0A> latency=0A> tends to creep up as features are added, sometimes no-one=
=0A> notices.=0A=0Ayes that would be great but how can this be done??=0A=0A=
> When I first got the Gordius it had a problem in this=0A> respect..=0A> .=
..Xavier fixed it pretty quickly.=0A> =0A> You should ask that the firmware=
 be updated to handle=0A> simple=0A> Note-On/Note-Off,.....essential if you=
 want to use it to=0A> play synth notes.=0A> =0A> Sometimes hardware creato=
rs only imagine their devices=0A> being used for certain tasks. You don't n=
eed Note-on=0A> to control a guitar rig, so the feature perhaps never got=
=0A> tested.=0A> That's why it's important for users to feedback about=0A> =
their=0A> experiences.. a good manufacturer will take it very=0A> seriously=
.=0A> =0A> Is there a "liquid Foot" forum? or a Yahoo Group? ...there=0A> s=
hould be.=0A> andy =0A=0A=0AYes,ive been posting like crazy but hardly any =
responses,i dont think anybody is trying to do what im trying,as you say pr=
obably most are just sending PCs and CCs with it and it seems very geared t=
owards the AXE FX which in fact also has a looper.=0AI love the design of t=
he unit though,it sits perfect on my pedalboard and the screen is beautiful=
,i just wish i had your midi knowledge to tell him what needs to be correct=
ed because i dont think he knows the EDP at all...=0Acheers=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=
=0A> =0A=0A> =0A> =0A> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> > ok,so the EDP will accept CCs =
to tirgger the direct=0A> Sus comands,right?=0A> > i did everything just us=
ing notes... i hope it does!=0A> > Luis=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =
=0A> >> Another option is to try CC commands instead.=0A> >> The liquid cer=
tainly seems to have a "momentary"=0A> >> option for those, designed to kee=
p an effect=0A> switched=0A> >> on while you hold the switch down.=0A> >> =
=0A> >> page 64 in the manual (and maybe some earlier=0A> pages)=0A> >> tel=
ls how you can just program in a CC value (same=0A> as EDP=0A> >> note numb=
er)=0A> >> and have the switch send 127 on that CC on press,=0A> and 0 on=
=0A> >> release.=0A> >> =0A> >> hope you get looping,soon=0A> >> =0A> >> an=
dy=0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> =0A> >> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >>>> But as i=
 said its only working for the=0A> virtual=0A> >> comands=0A> >>>> and not =
the direct midi ones and is=0A> driving me=0A> >> crazy!=0A> >>>> huh, 62 G=
eneral reset *is* a Direct Midi.=0A> >>>> ..and that's a "voila"=0A> >>> Hi=
 Andy im still having problems with this and=0A> i dont=0A> >> know if its =
me or the controller but i need to=0A> know=0A> >> otherwise i think im goi=
ng to return it.=0A> >>> heres the deal,why is it that the behringer=0A> fu=
nctions=0A> >> perfectly and this one doesnt? on the behringer i=0A> just g=
ive=0A> >> the note number regardless if its a virtual midi=0A> or direct=
=0A> >> midi and it works!=0A> >>> with the liquid foot only the virtual on=
es=0A> work but i=0A> >> cannot get "general reset" (62) or any of the=0A> =
other ones to=0A> >> work! ive tried everything,setting the switch=0A> >> m=
omentary,stomp tap tempo etc.=0A> >>>> Is it possible that you mean other D=
irect=0A> Midi's=0A> >> aren't=0A> >>>> working?=0A> >>>> If they were SUS =
commands then that makes=0A> sense,=0A> >> and ties=0A> >>>> in with=0A> >>=
>> your observation that longpress on Record=0A> (to give=0A> >> Reset)=0A>=
 >>>> isn't working. =0A> >>>=A0=A0=A0all im entering is the note=0A> numbe=
r and the data value=0A> >> of 127 and nothing else!=0A> >>> But i have dis=
covered something:=0A> >>> when i reset the echoplex by holding and=0A> pre=
ssing the=0A> >> record button ,then when i send the general reset=0A> coma=
nd=0A> >> from the liquid foot it seems to triger it,but=0A> then when i=0A=
> >> use the record button it doesnt work anymore!it=0A> also seems=0A> >> =
to put the edp in a weird mode,that is when i try=0A> to reset=0A> >> it by=
 holding and pressing th record button it=0A> seems as if=0A> >> it was loc=
ked and then i press it a second time=0A> and it=0A> >> resets,any ideas? i=
ve been even thinking of=0A> sending it to=0A> >> you so you can check it o=
ut but i dont know if=0A> that would be=0A> >> ok with you,plus you could d=
o a comparison between=0A> the=0A> >> gordius and this one;-)=0A> >>> thanx=
 for your always great help man i really=0A> >> apreciate it!=0A> >>> =0A> =
>>>> My guess is that your controller is=0A> sending=0A> >>>> Note-On/Note-=
Off pairs on=0A> >>>> pressing the switch, not waiting for you=0A> to=0A> >=
> release it=0A> >>>> before sending the Note-Off.=0A> >>>> =0A> >>>> So, t=
he Direct Midi SUS commands will not=0A> be=0A> >> audible.=0A> >>>> (e.g. =
SUS Reverse would reverse for such a=0A> small=0A> >> time that=0A> >>>> yo=
u wouldn't perceive it)=0A> >>>>=A0=A0=A0=0A> >>>> I had a look at the manu=
al for your=0A> controller,=0A> >> it=0A> >>>> describes a number=0A> >>>> =
of "button modes".=0A> >>>> One of those is "Momentary while Holding"=0A> >=
>>> ....that's what you want.=0A> >>>> (or whatever causes the Note-Off to =
be=0A> sent as=0A> >> you=0A> >>>> *release* the switch)=0A> >>> tried that=
 but nothing either...=0A> >>>> hope that helps=0A> >>>> =0A> >>>> andy=0A>=
 >>>> =0A> >>>> =0A> >>>> =0A> >>>> =0A> >>>>> =0A> >>>>> =0A> >>>>> =0A> >=
>>>>> andy=0A> >>>>>> =0A> >>>>>> =0A> >>>>>> =0A> >>>>>> =0A> >>>>>> =0A> =
>>>>>>> cheers=0A> >>>>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> >>>>>>> =0A> >=
>>>>>> =0A> >>>>>>> --- andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=0A> >>>>>> sch=
rieb am Mo, 23.11.2009:=0A> >>>>>>>> Von: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.=
uk>=0A> >>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: programing=0A> liquid=0A> >> foot jr.=0A> >>>=
> midi=0A> >>>>>> footcontroller with EDP help!=0A> >>>>>>>> An: Loopers-De=
light@loopers-delight.com=0A> >>>>>>>> Datum: Montag, 23.=0A> November 2009=
,=0A> >> 10:46=0A> >>>>>>>> what Per said for the=0A> DirectMidi.=0A> >>>>>=
>>> =0A> >>>>>>>> They only require Note-On=0A> (except=0A> >> for=0A> >>>>=
 SUS)=0A> >>>>>>>> To get the longpress(to=0A> make reset=0A> >> work)=0A> =
>>>> I'd try=0A> >>>>>> changing=0A> >>>>>>>> the Button Mode to=0A> "Momen=
tary=0A> >> while=0A> >>>> Holding".=0A> >>>>>>>> I don't understand where=
=0A> you=0A> >> entered=0A> >>>> "64".=0A> >>>>>>>> andy=0A> >>>>>>>> L.Ang=
ulo wrote:=0A> >>>>>>>>> hi gang,=0A> >>>>>>>>> i just got the litte=0A> li=
quid=0A> >> foot midi=0A> >>>>>> controller and=0A> >>>>>>>> im having a ha=
rd time=0A> controlling=0A> >> the EDP=0A> >>>> as i did=0A> >>>>>> with th=
e=0A> >>>>>>>> behringer.=0A> >>>>>>>>> So far ive manage to=0A> program=0A=
> >> the=0A> >>>> virtual=0A> >>>>>> functions=0A> >>>>>>>> like=0A> >>>>>>=
>>> record=0A> >>>>>>>>> overdub=0A> >>>>>>>>> multiply=0A> >>>>>>>>> mute=
=0A> >>>>>>>>> undo=0A> >>>>>>>>> next=0A> >>>>>>>>> reverse=0A> >>>>>>>>> =
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L.Angulo wrote:
>> You'll have to re-program everything to CC , but I think
>> it'll
>> work.
> 
> Hi Andy,
> Im testing the EDP first direct midi function called SUSRecord  note number 50 (36 + 14)

you mean CC number...right?

> and it does somehow respond but it erases the loop and then there is a dot next to the loop 
> number on the EDP screen and all the parameter buttons are green,any idea what that means?

All green means a loop is playing.
The dot is AutoUndo.

So what you report indicates that you just recorded a very short loop.
Which is exactly what SUSRecord is intended to do.


> 
>> The Liquid actually has a parameter to stop it responding
>> "too fast".
>> That's why you miss some button presses.
>> "Button Delay", p67 in the manual should fix this.
> 
> unfortunately it doesnt,thats the first thing i set when 
> i got it,in fact i have it to the lowest setting and it 
> still happens,everything else gets faster thoguh like scrolling through banks etc.

that's bad,

>> Personally, I'd wanna check the latency on the buttons,
>> latency
>> tends to creep up as features are added, sometimes no-one
>> notices.
> 
> yes that would be great but how can this be done??

create a drone loop in the EDP 
Mute it.
Then un-Mute it using the controller.
That will give you a fair idea by ear.
To get accurate measurement you need to make a recording 
to a stereo recording device.
One channel gets the EDP output, the other the (very) close
miced sound of the switch.
Then looking at the 2 channels in the audio editor gives you
a measurable latency (including the EDP latency, which is rather
small).
5mS is the kind of response time you're looking for.

> 
>> When I first got the Gordius it had a problem in this
>> respect..
>> ...Xavier fixed it pretty quickly.
>>
>> You should ask that the firmware be updated to handle
>> simple
>> Note-On/Note-Off,.....essential if you want to use it to
>> play synth notes.
>>
>> Sometimes hardware creators only imagine their devices
>> being used for certain tasks. You don't need Note-on
>> to control a guitar rig, so the feature perhaps never got
>> tested.
>> That's why it's important for users to feedback about
>> their
>> experiences.. a good manufacturer will take it very
>> seriously.
>>
>> Is there a "liquid Foot" forum? or a Yahoo Group? ...there
>> should be.
>> andy 
> 
> 
> Yes,ive been posting like crazy but hardly any responses,i 
>dont think anybody is trying to do what im trying,as you say probably 
>most are just sending PCs and CCs with it and it seems very geared towards
> the AXE FX which in fact also has a looper.
> I love the design of the unit though,it sits 
>perfect on my pedalboard and the screen is beautiful,i just wish 
>i had your midi knowledge to tell him what needs to be corrected because 
>i dont think he knows the EDP at all...

It's rather simple what to tell him.
1) I need to program a switch so that on press, it sends a Note-On, and no Note-Off.
2) When I release the switch it needs to send the corresponding Note-Off (only).
3) A similar behaviour with CC would be acceptable.
4) I'm used to doing fast combinations of button presses, I've found that commands
  get missed when I do that.  



> cheers
> Luis
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>

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Read up here on setting up an aggregate device. That's the way to address
several audio devices from one application on a Mac.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1215

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 6:35 PM, rune fagereng <rune_fagereng@yahoo.no>wrot=
e:

> Hi
>
> I have one expresscard input on my macbook pro. Is there still a way to
> somehow use two cards (UAD2 solo/laptop and Apoogee) on my mac? Is there
> clever way around this?
>
> best regards
> Rune F.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Alt i ett. F=C3=A5 Yahoo! Mail <http://no.mail.yahoo.com> med adressekart=
otek,
> kalender og notisblokk.
>

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ss several audio devices from one application on a Mac. <br><a href=3D"http=
://support.apple.com/kb/HT1215">http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1215</a><br>
<br clear=3D"all">Greetings from Sweden<br><br>Per Boysen <br><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.boysen.se">www.boysen.se</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.perboysen.co=
m">www.perboysen.com</a><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 6:35 PM, rune fa=
gereng <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no">rune=
_fagereng@yahoo.no</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td styl=
e=3D"font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font=
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t: inherit; font-stretch: inherit;" valign=3D"top">
Hi=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>I have one expresscard input on my macbook pro.=
 Is there still a way to somehow use two cards (UAD2 solo/laptop and Apooge=
e)=C2=A0on my mac? Is there clever way around this?=C2=A0</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>best regards=C2=A0</div>
<div>Rune F.=C2=A0</div></td></tr></tbody></table><br><div class=3D"hm">


      <hr size=3D"1"><br><table><tbody><tr><td>Alt i ett. F=C3=A5 <a href=
=3D"http://no.mail.yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">Yahoo! Mail</a> med adresse=
kartotek, kalender og notisblokk.</td></tr></tbody></table></div></blockquo=
te></div>
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Looperz,

I am looping just an acoustic guitar and vocal with my echoplex  
through a Allen & Heath Mixwizard 16:2.
I am utilizing the A&H's dual effects through auxes 5&6. Basically,  
giving my acoustic on channel one a slap delay, vocals on channel 2  
with a hall reverb.
The A&H's effects are audible until I loop, then the signals become  
dry. I would like to have the loops wet.
The EDP's input is patched to Aux 5 on the back of the mixer and the  
EDP's output is patched to ST1in also on the back of the mixer.
I've tried patching the EDP differently with no luck.
I never really utilized the A&H"s effects until now and for the life  
of me, I cannot figure this out.

Thanks,
Todd


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Hi Todd,

Firstly, let's assume that you're using the EDP on a send other than
Aux 5, which you also say is an internal fx send.

The whole secret is that you don't *need* to use an input intended for
fx return  to bring an fx back into the mixer.
Bring them back on a regular channel, and then you can do any additional
routing with ease


For full flexibility you need to route the Mixer's FX out of the mixer,
and bring them back on a regular fx channel. 
I don't know your specific mixer, so I can't tell you if that's
possible.
However, if the internal fx has a send to a particular Aux then just 
put the EDP on that Aux and you're sorted.


If the internal fx only go to the main output and nowhere else
then your only option is to bring the EDP back on Channel 3
and add your fx onto the dry audio in the looper, that's not
going to get the exact sound you want in the case that you're looping
both guitar and voice, but then it's the best you're gonna get.

andy butler


Todd Chambeau wrote:
> Looperz,
> 
> I am looping just an acoustic guitar and vocal with my echoplex through 
> a Allen & Heath Mixwizard 16:2.
> I am utilizing the A&H's dual effects through auxes 5&6. Basically, 
> giving my acoustic on channel one a slap delay, vocals on channel 2 with 
> a hall reverb.
> The A&H's effects are audible until I loop, then the signals become dry. 
> I would like to have the loops wet.
> The EDP's input is patched to Aux 5 on the back of the mixer and the 
> EDP's output is patched to ST1in also on the back of the mixer.
> I've tried patching the EDP differently with no luck.
> I never really utilized the A&H"s effects until now and for the life of 
> me, I cannot figure this out.
> 
> Thanks,
> Todd
> 
> 
> 

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Thanks Andy,

The A&H actually sends it's internal effects over aux 5&6.
I ended up running the input to the EDP from Aux 1, then kept the  
output of the EDP to the Stereo Input and this does work, I have a wet  
loop.
  I am not really sure why this works, since I thought only Aux 5&6  
were the routable internal effects auxes. Even on the effects list  
right, on top of the board, it has an option for one set of effects  
for Aux 5 and another for Aux 6?

Thanks again for helping me out.
Todd


On Nov 28, 2009, at 5:19 AM, andy butler wrote:

> Hi Todd,
>
> Firstly, let's assume that you're using the EDP on a send other than
> Aux 5, which you also say is an internal fx send.
>
> The whole secret is that you don't *need* to use an input intended for
> fx return  to bring an fx back into the mixer.
> Bring them back on a regular channel, and then you can do any  
> additional
> routing with ease
>
>
> For full flexibility you need to route the Mixer's FX out of the  
> mixer,
> and bring them back on a regular fx channel. I don't know your  
> specific mixer, so I can't tell you if that's
> possible.
> However, if the internal fx has a send to a particular Aux then just  
> put the EDP on that Aux and you're sorted.
>
>
> If the internal fx only go to the main output and nowhere else
> then your only option is to bring the EDP back on Channel 3
> and add your fx onto the dry audio in the looper, that's not
> going to get the exact sound you want in the case that you're looping
> both guitar and voice, but then it's the best you're gonna get.
>
> andy butler
>
>
> Todd Chambeau wrote:
>> Looperz,
>> I am looping just an acoustic guitar and vocal with my echoplex  
>> through a Allen & Heath Mixwizard 16:2.
>> I am utilizing the A&H's dual effects through auxes 5&6. Basically,  
>> giving my acoustic on channel one a slap delay, vocals on channel 2  
>> with a hall reverb.
>> The A&H's effects are audible until I loop, then the signals become  
>> dry. I would like to have the loops wet.
>> The EDP's input is patched to Aux 5 on the back of the mixer and  
>> the EDP's output is patched to ST1in also on the back of the mixer.
>> I've tried patching the EDP differently with no luck.
>> I never really utilized the A&H"s effects until now and for the  
>> life of me, I cannot figure this out.
>> Thanks,
>> Todd
>

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Hey Andy,

I spoke too soon. It works, however after I put down the original  
loop, any overdubbing comes out extremely thin (EQ wise) the volume is  
there, but it sounds like all of the mids and highs are turned to 10.

I turned off all of the internal effects etc., and tried a couple of  
the other aux channels, but no luck.

Close but yet so far.

Todd




On Nov 28, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Todd Chambeau wrote:

> Thanks Andy,
>
> The A&H actually sends it's internal effects over aux 5&6.
> I ended up running the input to the EDP from Aux 1, then kept the  
> output of the EDP to the Stereo Input and this does work, I have a  
> wet loop.
> I am not really sure why this works, since I thought only Aux 5&6  
> were the routable internal effects auxes. Even on the effects list  
> right, on top of the board, it has an option for one set of effects  
> for Aux 5 and another for Aux 6?
>
> Thanks again for helping me out.
> Todd
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2009, at 5:19 AM, andy butler wrote:
>
>> Hi Todd,
>>
>> Firstly, let's assume that you're using the EDP on a send other than
>> Aux 5, which you also say is an internal fx send.
>>
>> The whole secret is that you don't *need* to use an input intended  
>> for
>> fx return  to bring an fx back into the mixer.
>> Bring them back on a regular channel, and then you can do any  
>> additional
>> routing with ease
>>
>>
>> For full flexibility you need to route the Mixer's FX out of the  
>> mixer,
>> and bring them back on a regular fx channel. I don't know your  
>> specific mixer, so I can't tell you if that's
>> possible.
>> However, if the internal fx has a send to a particular Aux then  
>> just put the EDP on that Aux and you're sorted.
>>
>>
>> If the internal fx only go to the main output and nowhere else
>> then your only option is to bring the EDP back on Channel 3
>> and add your fx onto the dry audio in the looper, that's not
>> going to get the exact sound you want in the case that you're looping
>> both guitar and voice, but then it's the best you're gonna get.
>>
>> andy butler
>>
>>
>> Todd Chambeau wrote:
>>> Looperz,
>>> I am looping just an acoustic guitar and vocal with my echoplex  
>>> through a Allen & Heath Mixwizard 16:2.
>>> I am utilizing the A&H's dual effects through auxes 5&6.  
>>> Basically, giving my acoustic on channel one a slap delay, vocals  
>>> on channel 2 with a hall reverb.
>>> The A&H's effects are audible until I loop, then the signals  
>>> become dry. I would like to have the loops wet.
>>> The EDP's input is patched to Aux 5 on the back of the mixer and  
>>> the EDP's output is patched to ST1in also on the back of the mixer.
>>> I've tried patching the EDP differently with no luck.
>>> I never really utilized the A&H"s effects until now and for the  
>>> life of me, I cannot figure this out.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Todd
>>
>

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Hey all,

I want to add stereo line in and out to an older laptop that only has a mic 
input and a headphone out. I want to be able to run Ninjam on it. I will 
feed a stereo line from my mixer into it then a stero line out to another 
computer. Any tips? I am thinking USB might do this but I am not sure what 
to get.


Happy Holidays,

Jeff 

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I picked up an M-Audio FastTrack Pro a while back and it worked really  
well for recording and NINJAM.

-cpr

Quoting Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>:

> Hey all,
>
> I want to add stereo line in and out to an older laptop that only has a
> mic input and a headphone out. I want to be able to run Ninjam on it. I
> will feed a stereo line from my mixer into it then a stero line out to
> another computer. Any tips? I am thinking USB might do this but I am
> not sure what to get.
>
>
> Happy Holidays,
>
> Jeff


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Hello Jeff,

I use a Tascam US 122L with my laptop. Always works fine for my purposes.

Steve

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> Hey all,
>
> I want to add stereo line in and out to an older laptop that only has a 
> mic input and a headphone out. I want to be able to run Ninjam on it. I 
> will feed a stereo line from my mixer into it then a stero line out to 
> another computer. Any tips? I am thinking USB might do this but I am not 
> sure what to get.
>
>
> Happy Holidays,
>
> Jeff
> 


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Thanks to Steve and Cris for the replies. It gives me something to go on. I 
also have checked out the "B" word products which I have always been happy 
with. At least the mixers. This looks doable!

all the best,

Jeff

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> Hello Jeff,
>
> I use a Tascam US 122L with my laptop. Always works fine for my purposes.
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Duke" <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:36 PM
> Subject: usb external soundcard
>
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I want to add stereo line in and out to an older laptop that only has a 
>> mic input and a headphone out. I want to be able to run Ninjam on it. I 
>> will feed a stereo line from my mixer into it then a stero line out to 
>> another computer. Any tips? I am thinking USB might do this but I am not 
>> sure what to get.
>>
>>
>> Happy Holidays,
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>
>
> 

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Speaking of which - there's a B-word product which has one pair line in/out
each, and is very cheap. And it works. It came with my UBS keyboard. 

> Thanks to Steve and Cris for the replies. It gives me 
> something to go on. I also have checked out the "B" word 
> products which I have always been happy with. At least the 
> mixers. This looks doable!

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Ah yes Rainer, Jim mention this one to me and it's very reasonable. It is a 
borrowed laptop so I really just want to get by cheaply until I can get my 
own super machine! :o)
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA202-USBAudio-Interface?sku=702540
there is also this one for more money but I don't need the "Massive" 
software bundle! lol
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA222?sku=476148

thanks,

Jeff

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> Speaking of which - there's a B-word product which has one pair line 
> in/out
> each, and is very cheap. And it works. It came with my UBS keyboard.
>
>> Thanks to Steve and Cris for the replies. It gives me
>> something to go on. I also have checked out the "B" word
>> products which I have always been happy with. At least the
>> mixers. This looks doable!
>
> 

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Subject: Re: usb external soundcard
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also the edirol U1-EX ...

2009/11/28 Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>

> Ah yes Rainer, Jim mention this one to me and it's very reasonable. It is a
> borrowed laptop so I really just want to get by cheaply until I can get my
> own super machine! :o)
>
> http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA202-USBAudio-Interface?sku=702540
> there is also this one for more money but I don't need the "Massive"
> software bundle! lol
>
> http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA222?sku=476148
>
> thanks,
>
> Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" <
> moinsound@googlemail.com>
>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 1:05 PM
> Subject: AW: usb external soundcard
>
>
>
>  Speaking of which - there's a B-word product which has one pair line
>> in/out
>> each, and is very cheap. And it works. It came with my UBS keyboard.
>>
>>  Thanks to Steve and Cris for the replies. It gives me
>>> something to go on. I also have checked out the "B" word
>>> products which I have always been happy with. At least the
>>> mixers. This looks doable!
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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also the edirol U1-EX ... <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/11/28 Jef=
f Duke <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com">jeff_=
d@embarqmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; p=
adding-left: 1ex;">
Ah yes Rainer, Jim mention this one to me and it&#39;s very reasonable. It =
is a borrowed laptop so I really just want to get by cheaply until I can ge=
t my own super machine! :o)<br>
<a href=3D"http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-=
UCA202-USBAudio-Interface?sku=3D702540" target=3D"_blank">http://pro-audio.=
musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA202-USBAudio-Interface?sk=
u=3D702540</a><br>

there is also this one for more money but I don&#39;t need the &quot;Massiv=
e&quot; software bundle! lol<br>
<a href=3D"http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-=
UCA222?sku=3D476148" target=3D"_blank">http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com=
/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA222?sku=3D476148</a><br>
<br>
thanks,<br>
<br>
Jeff<br>
<br>
----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;Rainer Straschill&quot; &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">moinsound@googlemai=
l.com</a>&gt;<div class=3D"im"><br>
To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br></div>
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 1:05 PM<br>
Subject: AW: usb external soundcard<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Speaking of which - there&#39;s a B-word product which has one pair line in=
/out<br>
each, and is very cheap. And it works. It came with my UBS keyboard.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Thanks to Steve and Cris for the replies. It gives me<br>
something to go on. I also have checked out the &quot;B&quot; word<br>
products which I have always been happy with. At least the<br>
mixers. This looks doable!<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell=
 at Blogger: <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://raulbonell.b=
logspot.com</a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href=3D"http://www.ct-collecti=
ve.com">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>
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I recently acquired this Sound Blaster card for the same reason, and have
been happy with the results.

http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=208&product=17751

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:

> also the edirol U1-EX ...
>
> 2009/11/28 Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
>
> Ah yes Rainer, Jim mention this one to me and it's very reasonable. It is a
>> borrowed laptop so I really just want to get by cheaply until I can get my
>> own super machine! :o)
>>
>> http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA202-USBAudio-Interface?sku=702540
>> there is also this one for more money but I don't need the "Massive"
>> software bundle! lol
>>
>> http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA222?sku=476148
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" <
>> moinsound@googlemail.com>
>>
>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 1:05 PM
>> Subject: AW: usb external soundcard
>>
>>
>>
>> Speaking of which - there's a B-word product which has one pair line
>>> in/out
>>> each, and is very cheap. And it works. It came with my UBS keyboard.
>>>
>>> Thanks to Steve and Cris for the replies. It gives me
>>>> something to go on. I also have checked out the "B" word
>>>> products which I have always been happy with. At least the
>>>> mixers. This looks doable!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
>
>

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<div>I recently acquired this Sound Blaster card for the same reason, and h=
ave been happy with the results.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=3D1&am=
p;subcategory=3D208&amp;product=3D17751">http://us.creative.com/products/pr=
oduct.asp?category=3D1&amp;subcategory=3D208&amp;product=3D17751</a><br><br=
></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Raul Bonell <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:raul.bonell@gmail.com">raul.bonell@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">also the edirol U1-EX ... <br><b=
r>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/11/28 Jeff Duke <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:jeff_d@embarqmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jeff_d@embarqmail.com=
</a>&gt;</span>=20
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0=
pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Ah yes Rainer, Jim m=
ention this one to me and it&#39;s very reasonable. It is a borrowed laptop=
 so I really just want to get by cheaply until I can get my own super machi=
ne! :o)<br>
<a href=3D"http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-=
UCA202-USBAudio-Interface?sku=3D702540" target=3D"_blank">http://pro-audio.=
musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA202-USBAudio-Interface?sk=
u=3D702540</a><br>
there is also this one for more money but I don&#39;t need the &quot;Massiv=
e&quot; software bundle! lol<br><a href=3D"http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend=
.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA222?sku=3D476148" target=3D"_blank">http=
://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA222?sku=3D47=
6148</a><br>
<br>thanks,<br><br>Jeff<br><br>----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;Rai=
ner Straschill&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">moinsound@googlemail.com</a>&gt;=20
<div><br>To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com</a>&gt;<br></div>Sent: S=
aturday, November 28, 2009 1:05 PM<br>Subject: AW: usb external soundcard=
=20
<div>
<div></div>
<div><br><br><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0=
pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Speaking of which - =
there&#39;s a B-word product which has one pair line in/out<br>each, and is=
 very cheap. And it works. It came with my UBS keyboard.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0=
pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Thanks to Steve and =
Cris for the replies. It gives me<br>something to go on. I also have checke=
d out the &quot;B&quot; word<br>
products which I have always been happy with. At least the<br>mixers. This =
looks doable!<br></blockquote><br><br></blockquote><br></div></div></blockq=
uote></div></div></div><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>--=
 <br>
Raul Bonell at Blogger: <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.com/" target=
=3D"_blank">http://raulbonell.blogspot.com</a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a=
 href=3D"http://www.ct-collective.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ct-col=
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Hello all-I hope I'm not getting too repetitive, sorry if so, just want to =
make sure the word gets out to you all about a house concert that I'm perfo=
rming at on DEC 12th,=0Afeaturing Looping using Upright Bass, Dobro Slide B=
ass, Acoustic Guitar,=0APercussion. Here's a couple of links to some vids o=
n youtube, if you'd like to hear some of my playing/looping. One is from an=
other house=0Aconcert that I organized and played at:

w/ Bowed Upright Bass and lots of harmonics on electric bass:

http://www.youtube.com/user/UccelloProject#p/u/4/xK9oOzruAT4

w/ Dobro Slide Bass:=20

http://www.youtube.com/user/UccelloProject#p/u/1/8Jna7zHGSIg

Hope you enjoy the Vids, here are some of the details about the upcoming sh=
ow:

-Time: Saturday, December 12th, 2009 =A0- 7:30 pm
-Place: House Concert In Seaside, CA=0A (USA)
-contact: email stevebassbird@yahoo.com=A0
-or call 831-801-4920 for details/directions=09=A0-details: Price: $12 (inc=
ludes show/drinks/snacks!)=20
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><div>Hello all-I hope I'm not getting too rep=
etitive, sorry if so, just want to make sure the word gets out to you all a=
bout a house concert that I'm performing at on DEC 12th,=0Afeaturing Loopin=
g using Upright Bass, Dobro Slide Bass, <span style=3D"background: transpar=
ent none repeat scroll 0% 0%; cursor: pointer; -moz-background-clip: -moz-i=
nitial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy=
: -moz-initial;" class=3D"yshortcuts" id=3D"lw_1259451250_0">Acoustic Guita=
r</span>,=0APercussion. Here's a couple of links to some vids on youtube, i=
f you'd like to hear some of my playing/looping. One is from another house=
=0Aconcert that I organized and played at:<br><br>w/ Bowed Upright Bass and=
 lots of harmonics on <span style=3D"border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb(0, 102, =
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Here's is a quick 3 min video of me looping to get you in the holiday
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http://vimeo.com/7872038




Happy Holidays and Happy Loopin,


Todd Matthews

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Here&#39;s is a quick 3 min video of me looping to get you in the holiday spirit.......<br><br><br><a href="http://vimeo.com/7872038">http://vimeo.com/7872038</a><br><br><br><br><br>Happy Holidays and Happy Loopin,<br><br>
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Thanks for all the great information. I guess I can get by without spending=
 too much cash for a decent mic. Ah, well. I need to build my mic collectio=
n up anyway as I want to go back to using a real conga/bongo set and will h=
ave to mike those as well. Thanks again.
=A0
Regards, Paal

--- On Thu, 11/26/09, richard sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:


From: richard sales <richard@glasswing.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 11:36 AM


I've always used an old (black) Sennheiser 421. =A0You can fiddle with the =
pad on it for different tone. =A0And, like the SM57, you can also use it as=
 a jack hammer in a pinch! I use that into a Daking Mic Pre IV. Paul Smith =
recommended the Daking.


Having said that I haven't tried the Royer 121 that lots of guys use. =A0I =
bet it sounds really good.=A0


Also fun to put a mic on the front and back of cabinet if open cabinet. =A0=
Have to watch for phase issues. =A0I used a Neumann TLM103 on the back and =
the Sennheiser on the front and you can sort of tune your sound from dark (=
back) to brighter (front) using this method. =A0Didn't use this on the late=
st record, though. =A0


Can't go wrong with 57s though. =A0Many big hit records have been made with=
 them on guitar cabinets.=A0


Most important, have fun!










richard sales
www.glasswing.com
www.richardsales.com
www.hayleysales.com
www.goodnaturefarms.com










On Nov 26, 2009, at 1:28 AM, andy butler wrote:


Depends where you want to use it.
...and the effect you wanna get.

The SM57 has been mentioned as it's often used in studios
for that purpose, and it's cheap. It'll get the job done.
...but it has drawbacks
1) Shure mics are inconsistent to an extent that's unusual in
=A0a mic considered to be a standard. There's a lot of variation
=A0=A0in how they sound. (to be fair, part of that's down to their
=A0=A0reputation for robustness...they tend not to get looked after, then t=
hey degrade)
2) A mic that colors the sound so considerably works best if it's only used=
 for
=A0one or two elements in your final mix.
3) It's not a good option as an all round mic, in case you wanted to
=A0=A0use it other stuff too.
4) If you want to try the mic at a further distance from the amp
=A0to capture ambience, and get an alternative tone for recording, then
=A0a less colored mic would be better.

Of course, none of those drawbacks is necessarily a deal breaker.

An alternative would be a decent small diaphragm condenser, something
by Rode, Octava, Beyer Dynamic. That would give you a more accurate
representation of the amp (not necessarily what you want), and
could be also be used for recording more or less anything.

Make sure you spend time finding the best mic placement, that
makes all the difference. Distance, position and angle.
My favourite is to use a condenser about an inch away on the edge of the sp=
eaker cone.

andy butler



Paul Richards wrote:

Hello:

In the past, I've always had guitar amps with some output capability to rou=
te the signal to a looper, recording device, et al. I'm about to get a smal=
l wattage Marshall (Class5 - =A05W) with no output feature which means I wi=
ll have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a reasonably priced microphone? T=
HX!

Regards, Paul


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top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Thanks for all the great information. I =
guess I can get by without spending too much cash for a decent mic. Ah, wel=
l. I need to build my mic collection up anyway as I want to go back to usin=
g a real conga/bongo set and will have to mike those as well. Thanks again.=
</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Regards, Paal<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 11/26/09, richard sales <I>&lt;ric=
hard@glasswing.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: richard sales &lt;richard@glasswing.com&gt;=
<BR>Subject: Re: OT: Mike for Recording Guitar Amp<BR>To: Loopers-Delight@l=
oopers-delight.com<BR>Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 11:36 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv1027485665>I've always used an old (black) Sennheiser 421. &nb=
sp;You can fiddle with the pad on it for different tone. &nbsp;And, like th=
e SM57, you can also use it as a jack hammer in a pinch! I use that into a =
Daking Mic Pre IV. Paul Smith recommended the Daking.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Having said that I haven't tried the Royer 121 that lots of guys use. =
&nbsp;I bet it sounds really good.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Also fun to put a mic on the front and back of cabinet if open cabinet=
. &nbsp;Have to watch for phase issues. &nbsp;I used a Neumann TLM103 on th=
e back and the Sennheiser on the front and you can sort of tune your sound =
from dark (back) to brighter (front) using this method. &nbsp;Didn't use th=
is on the latest record, though. &nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Can't go wrong with 57s though. &nbsp;Many big hit records have been m=
ade with them on guitar cabinets.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Most important, have fun!<BR>
<DIV><BR>
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<DIV style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word">
<DIV><FONT class=3DApple-style-span face=3DArial>richard sales</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=3DApple-style-span color=3D#908e38><A href=3D"http://www.g=
lasswing.com/" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>www.glasswing.com</A></FONT><=
/DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=3DApple-style-span color=3D#908e38><A href=3D"http://www.r=
ichardsales.com/" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>www.richardsales.com</A></=
FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=3DApple-style-span color=3D#908e38><A href=3D"http://www.h=
ayleysales.com/" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>www.hayleysales.com</A></FO=
NT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=3DApple-style-span color=3D#908e38><A href=3D"http://www.g=
oodnaturefarms.com/" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>www.goodnaturefarms.com=
</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></SPAN><BR class=3DApple-interchange-newline></DIV></S=
PAN><BR class=3DApple-interchange-newline></DIV></SPAN><BR class=3DApple-in=
terchange-newline></DIV></SPAN><BR class=3DApple-interchange-newline></DIV>=
</SPAN><BR class=3DApple-interchange-newline></DIV></SPAN><BR class=3DApple=
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<DIV>
<DIV>On Nov 26, 2009, at 1:28 AM, andy butler wrote:</DIV><BR class=3DApple=
-interchange-newline>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
<DIV>Depends where you want to use it.<BR>...and the effect you wanna get.<=
BR><BR>The SM57 has been mentioned as it's often used in studios<BR>for tha=
t purpose, and it's cheap. It'll get the job done.<BR>...but it has drawbac=
ks<BR>1) Shure mics are inconsistent to an extent that's unusual in<BR>&nbs=
p;a mic considered to be a standard. There's a lot of variation<BR>&nbsp;&n=
bsp;in how they sound. (to be fair, part of that's down to their<BR>&nbsp;&=
nbsp;reputation for robustness...they tend not to get looked after, then th=
ey degrade)<BR>2) A mic that colors the sound so considerably works best if=
 it's only used for<BR>&nbsp;one or two elements in your final mix.<BR>3) I=
t's not a good option as an all round mic, in case you wanted to<BR>&nbsp;&=
nbsp;use it other stuff too.<BR>4) If you want to try the mic at a further =
distance from the amp<BR>&nbsp;to capture ambience, and get an alternative =
tone for recording, then<BR>&nbsp;a less colored mic would be
 better.<BR><BR>Of course, none of those drawbacks is necessarily a deal br=
eaker.<BR><BR>An alternative would be a decent small diaphragm condenser, s=
omething<BR>by Rode, Octava, Beyer Dynamic. That would give you a more accu=
rate<BR>representation of the amp (not necessarily what you want), and<BR>c=
ould be also be used for recording more or less anything.<BR><BR>Make sure =
you spend time finding the best mic placement, that<BR>makes all the differ=
ence. Distance, position and angle.<BR>My favourite is to use a condenser a=
bout an inch away on the edge of the speaker cone.<BR><BR>andy butler<BR><B=
R><BR><BR>Paul Richards wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">Hello:<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">In the past, I've always had guitar amps with som=
e output capability to route the signal to a looper, recording device, et a=
l. I'm about to get a small wattage Marshall (Class5 - &nbsp;5W) with no ou=
tput feature which means I will have to mike it up. Any suggestions on a re=
asonably priced microphone? THX!<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">Regards, Paul<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV></BLOCKQU=
OTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table><br>=0A=0A=
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Hi Folks,

Did anyone ever have any luck finding a half U hard/soft flight case? =
I'm looking for one that'll fit my RME Fireface 400.

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Nope. Ands it's curious as there are now so many 1/2 rack devices.
On Nov 29, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Ricky Graham wrote:

> Hi Folks,
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> Did anyone ever have any luck finding a half U hard/soft flight  
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> Best,
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Sweet.

I also checked out "Unravel" wjich was very good too.

Thanks for sharing.

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:

Here's is a quick 3 min video of me looping to get you in the holiday
> spirit.......
>
> http://vimeo.com/7872038
>
> Happy Holidays and Happy Loopin,
>
> Todd Matthews
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oo.<br><br>Thanks for sharing.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, No=
v 28, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Todd Matthews <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
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<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(2=
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 a quick 3 min video of me looping to get you in the holiday spirit.......<=
br>
<br><a href=3D"http://vimeo.com/7872038" target=3D"_blank">http://vimeo.com=
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Hi Todd,

Nice one.
Really enjoyed that.

Thanks,

Andre

On Sat, November 28, 2009 10:26 pm, Todd Matthews wrote:
> Here's is a quick 3 min video of me looping to get you in the holiday
> spirit.......
>
>
> http://vimeo.com/7872038
>
>
>
>
> Happy Holidays and Happy Loopin,
>
>
> Todd Matthews
>


Andre Donawa
Barbados Guitar School
Woodside Gardens
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St. Michael
Barbados
 11157
Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office)
     246 436 8294 (School)

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On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Ricky Graham
<rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> Did anyone ever have any luck finding a half=C2=A0U hard/soft flight case=
? I'm
> looking for one that'll fit my RME Fireface 400.
>
> Best,
>
> Ricky


When I bought my first RME device around the millennium it shipped in
a nice case. That was an RME Multiface that has the same dimensions
for packing as the F400. The case looks like this:
http://www.meridianvs.com/images/metal_briefcase_texx.jpg

My guess from the logotype on the case is that it was from the German
company Audio AG
http://s267473844.online.de/audioag/

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
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Ditto on that Todd, good to see you on vid again, I always liked Unravel =
also.

Happy Holidays for you and yours,

Jeff
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  Sweet.=20

  I also checked out "Unravel" wjich was very good too.

  Thanks for sharing.


  On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> =
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    http://vimeo.com/7872038

    Happy Holidays and Happy Loopin,

    Todd Matthews



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Thanks Todd, I really enjoyed that. Hope to hear more from you sometime 
soon!

Steve

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Here's is a quick 3 min video of me looping to get you in the holiday 
spirit.......


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Happy Holidays and Happy Loopin,


Todd Matthews 


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Last night after tweaking my audio setup for doing the NinJam/uStream feeds
to resolve some previous dropout issues I've been having, I contacted Jeff
(a.k.a. 'ffff) about using his server and doing a test run.  We had not
planned a formal live show this weekend as friend Peter
[Thorn<http://www.myspace.com/peterthrn>]
from our new collective
Goodin/Thorn/Istorico/Duke<http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2617821>(yet
to be named) had computer problems this weekend and couldn't play.

Well the test proved stable, we started having some cool 'noise' happening
that paralleled a set Daryl and I did last month as part of the Norcal
Noisefest <http://www.norcalnoisefest.com> (Great fun!), so we kept going
and put it online live on uStream for over an hour.  Here's the link for a
playback experience as this was spontaneous and unpromoed.  We continue to
use the fine imagery of Emile Tobenfeld <http://www.foryourhead.com> by the
way.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2667517

Cheers and thx for listening...


Jim

-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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Last night after tweaking my audio setup for doing the NinJam/uStream feeds=
 to resolve some previous dropout issues I&#39;ve been having, I contacted =
Jeff (a.k.a. &#39;ffff) about using his server and doing a test run.=A0 We =
had not planned a formal live show this weekend as friend <a href=3D"http:/=
/www.myspace.com/peterthrn">Peter [Thorn</a>] from our new collective <a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2617821">Goodin/Thorn/Istorico/Duke</a=
> (yet to be named) had computer problems this weekend and couldn&#39;t pla=
y.<br>
<br>Well the test proved stable, we started having some cool &#39;noise&#39=
; happening that paralleled a set Daryl and I did last month as part of the=
 <a href=3D"http://www.norcalnoisefest.com">Norcal Noisefest</a> (Great fun=
!), so we kept going and put it online live on uStream for over an hour.=A0=
 Here&#39;s the link for a playback experience as this was spontaneous and =
unpromoed.=A0 We continue to use the fine imagery of <a href=3D"http://www.=
foryourhead.com">Emile Tobenfeld</a> by the way.<br>
<br><a href=3D"http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2667517">http://www.ustream.t=
v/recorded/2667517</a><br><br>Cheers and thx for listening...<br><br><br>Ji=
m<br><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective textural aural<br><a href=3D"http:/=
/www.myspace.com/CtReUse">www.myspace.com/CtReUse</a><br>
<br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgood=
inmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinap=
aintingmusic.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">w=
ww.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.myspace.com/china=
paintingmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelect=
ro">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.mys=
pace.com/jindream">www.myspace.com/jindream</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/j=
imgoodindigital">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networkin=
g...<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodin=
music</a><br><br>

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**I use a Tascam US 122L with my laptop. Always works fine for my purposes.

**Steve


I just bought one of these on a closeout from Sweetwater...only $130.00 US! 

Glad to hear it works well on a laptop, since I'll be using that and an
older version of Adobe Audition to do some basic recording.

Ed in NJ

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Make sure you download the latest firmware and driver, and I'm sure you will 
be quite happy with the 122L.

Steve

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> **I use a Tascam US 122L with my laptop. Always works fine for my 
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> I just bought one of these on a closeout from Sweetwater...only $130.00 
> US!
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As my son just astutely reminded me, the ads make it possible for me to do
live video streaming for free.  Though agreed they can be disruptive -
thanks for watching Scoots - will relay to Emile.

J

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>  jim and 'ffff' this was fun but the ads on the bottom of the page were a
> major distraction......althought the music did go with the J C PENNY SNUGGIE
> ADS.....:).....great photos.....m
>
>


-- 
ReUse, an introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

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anks for watching Scoots - will relay to Emile.<br><br>J<br><br><div class=
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On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 7:43 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:n=
emoguitt@aol.com">nemoguitt@aol.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
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<div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">=20

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</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>ReUse, an introspective=
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om/CtReUse</a><br><br>music links...<br><a href=3D"http://www.jimgoodinmusi=
c.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a=
><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimg=
oodinmusic</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www=
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<a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro">www.myspace.com/j=
imgoodinviolinelectro</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/jindream">ww=
w.myspace.com/jindream</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu=
sic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic</a><br>
<br>video work/editing...<br><a href=3D"http://www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigit=
al">www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital</a><br><br>social networking...<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=
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Love her raw passion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZF3irdaVDY&feature=related

Andre

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last night i watched a bunch of youtube clips of guitarists
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wow, i thought the sounds coming out of that thing was amazing.
=A0
has anyone played w/ one, experimented w/ one...it seemed to sound better t=
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when i had the original kaoss pad yrs ago..
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just curious if anyone had any experience w/ one.....
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clips of guitarists</DIV>
<DIV>playing w/ the korg mini-kaoss pad (w/ guitar)</DIV>
<DIV>wow, i thought the sounds coming out of that thing was amazing.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>has anyone played w/ one, experimented w/ one...it seemed to sound bet=
ter than</DIV>
<DIV>when i had the original kaoss pad yrs ago..</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>just curious if anyone had any experience w/ one.....</DIV>
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I had one.  I ended up selling it.  For me, it seemed to work better with repetitive rhythms like a techno drum pattern.  They are fairly cheap at 149 bucks so it's not a big loss to experiment with one.

toby
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        last night i watched a bunch of youtube clips of guitarists
        playing w/ the korg mini-kaoss pad (w/ guitar)
        wow, i thought the sounds coming out of that thing was amazing.

        has anyone played w/ one, experimented w/ one...it seemed to sound better than
        when i had the original kaoss pad yrs ago..

        just curious if anyone had any experience w/ one.....
        s---
        www.myspace.com/scotthansen
       


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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I had one.&nbsp; I ended up selling it.&nbsp; For 
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I have one on a mic stand and I love it to add effects sweeps to sustained
notes and loops.  You can do really nice rhythmic things by tapping the pad
art various places to sort of slice the signal with different effect
parameters.  I really have enjoyed it, $150 well spent imo.

Kevin

On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Toby G <carpet8@mac.com> wrote:

>  I had one.  I ended up selling it.  For me, it seemed to work better with
> repetitive rhythms like a techno drum pattern.  They are fairly cheap at 149
> bucks so it's not a big loss to experiment with one.
>
> toby
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com>
> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:07 PM
> *Subject:* semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad??
>
>   last night i watched a bunch of youtube clips of guitarists
> playing w/ the korg mini-kaoss pad (w/ guitar)
> wow, i thought the sounds coming out of that thing was amazing.
>
> has anyone played w/ one, experimented w/ one...it seemed to sound better
> than
> when i had the original kaoss pad yrs ago..
>
> just curious if anyone had any experience w/ one.....
> s---
> www.myspace.com/scotthansen
>
>
>


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I have one on a mic stand and I love it to add effects sweeps to sustained =
notes and loops.=A0 You can do really nice rhythmic things by tapping the p=
ad art various places to sort of slice the signal with different effect par=
ameters.=A0 I really have enjoyed it, $150 well spent imo.<br>
<br>Kevin<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 6:14 PM=
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Scott,

Oh yeah, much fun. I've been running one in the effects loop of my POD  
X3 Pro for quite a while. I have 4 cables with RCA jacks on one end  
and 1/4" jacks on the other to run the unit in stereo. Occasionally  
I'll "play the pad" but most often will put it in "hold" mode and dial- 
in a tone with the pad. At the press of a button I can knock it out of  
the loop if I'm not using it. Heck the High Pass Filter is worth the  
price of admission. I added the appropriate Korg power supply for a  
few bucks.

This past Friday I got a good deal on a KP3 after watching for one for  
several weeks. The KP3 allows for sampling and resampling, like the  
old Boss SP-303, and has a few other features. If you're just after  
the effects the miniKP gets the job done just fine. They are going for  
$119 new with no shipping on eBay. Commercial ON - I'm selling my  
miniKP with the powersupply on eBay now. - Commercial OFF.

All the best,

Loren Claypool
genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music
www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there
On Nov 29, 2009, at 8:07 PM, scott hansen wrote:

> last night i watched a bunch of youtube clips of guitarists
> playing w/ the korg mini-kaoss pad (w/ guitar)
> wow, i thought the sounds coming out of that thing was amazing.
>
> has anyone played w/ one, experimented w/ one...it seemed to sound  
> better than
> when i had the original kaoss pad yrs ago..
>
> just curious if anyone had any experience w/ one.....
> s---
> www.myspace.com/scotthansen
>
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and 1/4" jacks on the other to run the unit in stereo.&nbsp;Occasionally =
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Hi folks

I couldn't resist posting this...
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A lot of this is valid for ambient looping, too, I guess ;-)

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just a little side note........

the KP and Kaossilator both work fine powered by a Sony PSP handheld consoe=
 adapter I got one for each of mine for =A33 a piece with shipping from chi=
na!

the kp units are great but i have always found that they attenuate my signa=
l a lot I have never tried running one in a mixer aux type situation but fo=
r me the noise floor is enough to put me off using it more which is a shame=
.........

also I spoke to a Korg guy at a trade show and surgested they made a KP3(L)=
 version with the L being for (LIVE) and having all jacks rather then RCAs =
(HATE those things) and a more instrument orientated gain structure.. he ac=
tually bothered to write down my feedback and also smiled a knowing smile..=
heres hoping!!

Phill

From: looper@theclaypools.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad??
Date: Sun=2C 29 Nov 2009 22:21:07 -0600

Scott=2C
Oh yeah=2C much fun. I've been running one in the effects loop of my POD X3=
 Pro for quite a while. I have 4 cables with RCA jacks on one end and 1/4" =
jacks on the other to run the unit in stereo. Occasionally I'll "play the p=
ad" but most often will put it in "hold" mode and dial-in a tone with the p=
ad. At the press of a button I can knock it out of the loop if I'm not usin=
g it. Heck the High Pass Filter is worth the price of admission. I added th=
e appropriate Korg power supply for a few bucks.=20
This past Friday I got a good deal on a KP3 after watching for one for seve=
ral weeks. The KP3 allows for sampling and resampling=2C like the old Boss =
SP-303=2C and has a few other features. If you're just after the effects th=
e miniKP gets the job done just fine. They are going for $119 new with no s=
hipping on eBay. Commercial ON - I'm selling my miniKP with the powersupply=
 on eBay now. - Commercial OFF.
All the best=2C
Loren Claypoolgenre-indifferent instrumental guitar musicwww.lorenclaypool.=
com and links from thereOn Nov 29=2C 2009=2C at 8:07 PM=2C scott hansen wro=
te:last night i watched a bunch of youtube clips of guitarists playing w/ t=
he korg mini-kaoss pad (w/ guitar) wow=2C i thought the sounds coming out o=
f that thing was amazing.   has anyone played w/ one=2C experimented w/ one=
...it seemed to sound better than when i had the original kaoss pad yrs ago=
..   just curious if anyone had any experience w/ one..... s--- www.myspace=
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just a little side note........<br><br>the KP and Kaossilator both work fin=
e powered by a Sony PSP handheld consoe adapter I got one for each of mine =
for =A33 a piece with shipping from china!<br><br>the kp units are great bu=
t i have always found that they attenuate my signal a lot I have never trie=
d running one in a mixer aux type situation but for me the noise floor is e=
nough to put me off using it more which is a shame.........<br><br>also I s=
poke to a Korg guy at a trade show and surgested they made a KP3(L) version=
 with the L being for (LIVE) and having all jacks rather then RCAs (HATE th=
ose things) and a more instrument orientated gain structure.. he actually b=
othered to write down my feedback and also smiled a knowing smile..heres ho=
ping!!<br><br>Phill<br><br><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">From: looper@theclaypool=
s.com<br>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<br>Subject: Re: semi-OT: k=
org mini-kaoss pad??<br>Date: Sun=2C 29 Nov 2009 22:21:07 -0600<br><br>Scot=
t=2C<div><br></div><div>Oh yeah=2C much fun. I've been running one in the e=
ffects loop of my POD X3 Pro for quite a while.&nbsp=3BI have 4 cables with=
 RCA jacks on one end and 1/4" jacks on the other to run the unit in stereo=
.&nbsp=3BOccasionally I'll "play the pad" but most often will put it in "ho=
ld" mode and dial-in a tone with the pad. At the press of a button I can kn=
ock it out of the loop if I'm not using it. Heck the High Pass Filter is wo=
rth the price of admission.&nbsp=3BI added the appropriate Korg power suppl=
y for a few bucks.&nbsp=3B</div><div><br></div><div>This past Friday I got =
a good deal on a KP3 after watching for one for several weeks.&nbsp=3BThe K=
P3 allows for sampling and resampling=2C like the old Boss SP-303=2C and ha=
s a few other features.&nbsp=3BIf you're just after the effects the miniKP =
gets the job done just fine. They are going for $119 new with no shipping o=
n eBay. Commercial ON - I'm selling my miniKP with the powersupply on eBay =
now. - Commercial OFF.</div><div><br></div><div><span class=3D"ecxApple-sty=
le-span" style=3D"font-size: 12px=3B"><div>All the best=2C</div><div><br></=
div><div>Loren Claypool</div><div>genre-indifferent instrumental guitar mus=
ic</div><div><a href=3D"http://www.lorenclaypool.com">www.lorenclaypool.com=
</a> and links from there</div></span><div><div>On Nov 29=2C 2009=2C at 8:0=
7 PM=2C scott hansen wrote:</div><br class=3D"ecxApple-interchange-newline"=
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)</div> <div>wow=2C i thought the sounds coming out of that thing was amazi=
ng.</div> <div>&nbsp=3B</div> <div>has anyone played w/ one=2C experimented=
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Do DJs have drum machines going or do they make their mixes beforehand?  =
If they make the mixes ahead of time then it makes sense to use RCA =
jacks because the sound would be coming out of  a cd player or sound =
card.  Or turntable.  I would have kept mine if it had not had the =
attenuation and jack issues.

toby
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: phillip wilson=20
  To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20
  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 1:50 AM
  Subject: RE: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad??


  just a little side note........

  the KP and Kaossilator both work fine powered by a Sony PSP handheld =
consoe adapter I got one for each of mine for =A33 a piece with shipping =
from china!

  the kp units are great but i have always found that they attenuate my =
signal a lot I have never tried running one in a mixer aux type =
situation but for me the noise floor is enough to put me off using it =
more which is a shame.........

  also I spoke to a Korg guy at a trade show and surgested they made a =
KP3(L) version with the L being for (LIVE) and having all jacks rather =
then RCAs (HATE those things) and a more instrument orientated gain =
structure.. he actually bothered to write down my feedback and also =
smiled a knowing smile..heres hoping!!

  Phill


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  From: looper@theclaypools.com
  To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
  Subject: Re: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad??
  Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:21:07 -0600

  Scott,


  Oh yeah, much fun. I've been running one in the effects loop of my POD =
X3 Pro for quite a while. I have 4 cables with RCA jacks on one end and =
1/4" jacks on the other to run the unit in stereo. Occasionally I'll =
"play the pad" but most often will put it in "hold" mode and dial-in a =
tone with the pad. At the press of a button I can knock it out of the =
loop if I'm not using it. Heck the High Pass Filter is worth the price =
of admission. I added the appropriate Korg power supply for a few bucks. =



  This past Friday I got a good deal on a KP3 after watching for one for =
several weeks. The KP3 allows for sampling and resampling, like the old =
Boss SP-303, and has a few other features. If you're just after the =
effects the miniKP gets the job done just fine. They are going for $119 =
new with no shipping on eBay. Commercial ON - I'm selling my miniKP with =
the powersupply on eBay now. - Commercial OFF.


  All the best,


  Loren Claypool
  genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music
  www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there
  On Nov 29, 2009, at 8:07 PM, scott hansen wrote:


          last night i watched a bunch of youtube clips of guitarists
          playing w/ the korg mini-kaoss pad (w/ guitar)
          wow, i thought the sounds coming out of that thing was =
amazing.

          has anyone played w/ one, experimented w/ one...it seemed to =
sound better than
          when i had the original kaoss pad yrs ago..

          just curious if anyone had any experience w/ one.....
          s---
          www.myspace.com/scotthansen
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there's a ton of wild stuff in there. Big fun, definitely give it a try.
Only drawback is that it seems to reduce the level - it sounds quite
different to have it in your signal chain compared to not having it. Does
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Build a preamp.

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  there's a ton of wild stuff in there. Big fun, definitely give it a try. Only drawback is that it seems to reduce the level - it sounds quite different to have it in your signal chain compared to not having it. Does anyone know a remedy for that?

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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=828415809-30112009></SPAN><FONT 
  face=Arial><FONT size=2>t<SPAN class=828415809-30112009>here's a ton of wild 
  stuff in there. Big fun, definitely give it a try. Only drawback is that it 
  seems to reduce the level - it sounds quite different to have it in your 
  signal chain compared to not having it. Does anyone know a remedy for 
  that?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN 
  class=828415809-30112009></SPAN></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anybody know how to switch off autosave in Mainstage 2? Thx


I didn't even know there is such a feature in it! Have never seen
anything about it and on my computer Mainstage never saves anything
unless I hit cmd-s or cmd-shift-s. A good habit when building a rig is
to save to two documents with different names. That way you will
always keep your last work even if you program something that makes
the application crash during the save and renders the saved document
corrupt. Just basic computing common sense, but it keeps saving my ass
all the time  ;-))

Greetings from Sweden

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I didn't even know there is such a feature in it! Have never seen
> anything about it and on my computer Mainstage never saves anything
> unless I hit cmd-s or cmd-shift-s.

I didn't know about it until I (recently) noticed that MS showed an
Autosave popup windows for 1-2 seconds. But it also hanged MS a couple
of times. Might be an issue with one of my NI plugins, see
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2108652&tstart=0

I haven't tested it but it seems that you can turn it off (see info below).
----
Auto-save happens every 300 seconds.

To disable it, you can set the time to 0 seconds, just enter the
following line in Terminal.app:
defaults write com.apple.mainstage autosavingDelay -float 0

To reset it, enter this:
defaults delete com.apple.mainstage autosavingDelay
----

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http://livelooping.be/
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thanks for sharing, sjaak.

2009/11/30 Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com>

> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I didn't even know there is such a feature in it! Have never seen
> > anything about it and on my computer Mainstage never saves anything
> > unless I hit cmd-s or cmd-shift-s.
>
> I didn't know about it until I (recently) noticed that MS showed an
> Autosave popup windows for 1-2 seconds. But it also hanged MS a couple
> of times. Might be an issue with one of my NI plugins, see
> http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2108652&tstart=0
>
> I haven't tested it but it seems that you can turn it off (see info below).
> ----
> Auto-save happens every 300 seconds.
>
> To disable it, you can set the time to 0 seconds, just enter the
> following line in Terminal.app:
> defaults write com.apple.mainstage autosavingDelay -float 0
>
> To reset it, enter this:
> defaults delete com.apple.mainstage autosavingDelay
> ----
>
> --
> Sjaak Overgaauw
> http://premonitionfactory.com/
> http://livelooping.be/
> http://euroloopfest.com/
>
>


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thanks for sharing, sjaak.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/11/30 Sja=
ak Overgaauw <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tcplugin@gmail.com">tc=
plugin@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; p=
adding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Per Boysen &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com">perboysen@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; I didn&#39;t even know there is such a feature in it! Have never seen<=
br>
&gt; anything about it and on my computer Mainstage never saves anything<br=
>
&gt; unless I hit cmd-s or cmd-shift-s.<br>
<br>
</div>I didn&#39;t know about it until I (recently) noticed that MS showed =
an<br>
Autosave popup windows for 1-2 seconds. But it also hanged MS a couple<br>
of times. Might be an issue with one of my NI plugins, see<br>
<a href=3D"http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=3D2108652&amp;=
tstart=3D0" target=3D"_blank">http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?thre=
adID=3D2108652&amp;tstart=3D0</a><br>
<br>
I haven&#39;t tested it but it seems that you can turn it off (see info bel=
ow).<br>
----<br>
Auto-save happens every 300 seconds.<br>
<br>
To disable it, you can set the time to 0 seconds, just enter the<br>
following line in Terminal.app:<br>
defaults write com.apple.mainstage autosavingDelay -float 0<br>
<br>
To reset it, enter this:<br>
defaults delete com.apple.mainstage autosavingDelay<br>
----<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
--<br>
Sjaak Overgaauw<br>
<a href=3D"http://premonitionfactory.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://premoni=
tionfactory.com/</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://livelooping.be/" target=3D"_blank">http://livelooping.be/=
</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://euroloopfest.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://euroloopfest.=
com/</a><br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raul Bonell=
 at Blogger: <a href=3D"http://raulbonell.blogspot.com">http://raulbonell.b=
logspot.com</a><br>Chain Tape Collective: <a href=3D"http://www.ct-collecti=
ve.com">http://www.ct-collective.com</a><br>
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... some DI adapter, like those pricey radial engineering boxes, should do
the trick. isn't?

2009/11/30 Toby G <carpet8@mac.com>

>  Build a preamp.
>
> t
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de>
> *To:* Loopers Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2009 2:00 AM
> *Subject:* RE: semi-OT: korg mini-kaoss pad??
>
> there's a ton of wild stuff in there. Big fun, definitely give it a try.
> Only drawback is that it seems to reduce the level - it sounds quite
> different to have it in your signal chain compared to not having it. Does
> anyone know a remedy for that?
>
> -Michael
>
>


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... some DI adapter, like those pricey radial engineering boxes, should do =
the trick. isn&#39;t? <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/11/30 Toby G =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:carpet8@mac.com">carpet8@mac.com</a=
>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">





<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">Build a preamp.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"></font>=A0</div><font color=3D"#888888=
">
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">t</font></div>
</font><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-le=
ft: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;" dir=3D"l=
tr"><div class=3D"im">
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norma=
l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style=3D"background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; fo=
nt-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: no=
rmal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-st=
retch: normal; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: paddin=
g; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">
<b>From:</b>=20
  <a title=3D"mp@mpeters.de" href=3D"mailto:mp@mpeters.de" target=3D"_blank=
">Michael Peters</a> </div>
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norma=
l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"Loopers-Delight@lo=
opers-delight.com" href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">Loopers Delight</a> </div>

  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norma=
l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 30, 2009 2:=
00=20
  AM</div>
  <div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: norma=
l; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adj=
ust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> RE: semi-OT: korg mini-ka=
oss=20
  pad??</div>
  <div><br></div>
  </div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr" align=3D"left"><=
span></span><font face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D"2">t<span>here&#39;s a ton o=
f wild=20
  stuff in there. Big fun, definitely give it a try. Only drawback is that =
it=20
  seems to reduce the level - it sounds quite different to have it in your=
=20
  signal chain compared to not having it. Does anyone know a remedy for=20
  that?</span></font></font></div>
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unfortunately, i think this upgrade has been discontinued. if anybody has
done this and wants to sell on their disks, please let me know. i pay good
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many thanks

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unfortunately, i think this upgrade has been discontinued. if anybody has done this and wants to sell on their disks, please let me know. i pay good price!<br><br>many thanks<br><br>simeon <br>

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Quite humorous.

I laughed 'til I cried.

The "experimental" music music wing of the looping community is  
basically the "prog" wing.

Guilty as charged.

On Nov 30, 2009, at 12:11 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote:

> Hi folks
>
> I couldn't resist posting this...
> http://www.cracked.com/funny-2359-progressive-rock/
>
> A lot of this is valid for ambient looping, too, I guess ;-)
>
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That Focus video is a must see.  If I'm not mistaken that tune was  
actually a hit.  I distinctly remember hearing it on the radio....as  
in top 40 radio, probably AM no less.  How he hits those notes in that  
falsetto is beyond me.  1973?!  36 years ago?!  I know my fellow 40  
somethings will feel my disbelief that it's been that long!

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<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">That Focus video is a must see. &nbsp;If I'm not mistaken that tune was actually a hit. &nbsp;I distinctly remember hearing it on the radio....as in top 40 radio, probably AM no less. &nbsp;How he hits those notes in that falsetto is beyond me. &nbsp;1973?! &nbsp;36 years ago?! &nbsp;I know my fellow 40 somethings will feel my disbelief that it's been <i>that</i>&nbsp;long!<div><br></div><div>John</div></body></html>
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
> I couldn't resist posting this...
> http://www.cracked.com/funny-2359-progressive-rock/


Hilarious! This was the first I read as I came back from meeting The
Mars Volta ;-)) LOL

Seriously, I dug Jan Akkerman's guitar playing as well as the jazz
based drumming in Focus Hokus Pokus back in the seventies. But as
teenager I never understood why those older guys all had those stupid
mustaches? Thought "that must be because they are Dutch or something".
As for Thijs van Leer's jodling I took it for "just an accident due to
bad taste" and skipped over that part when copying my listening
cassette tapes for guitar studies.

BTW here's a much better and fully modern fast-guitar-jodling as a comparison:
http://www.youtube.com/user/sprugian#p/u/10/dILxkoTjtl8

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> But as
> teenager I never understood why those older guys all had those stupid
> mustaches? Thought "that must be because they are Dutch or something".

Well, I'm Dutch we don't have a mustache nowadays ;-)
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Thanks for sharing that knowledge! I guess autosave is active in Edit
Mode. But I hardly think it is active in Performance Mode or Full
Screen Mode, because that would sort of defeat the purpose of the
entire application.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
> thanks for sharing, sjaak.
>
> 2009/11/30 Sjaak Overgaauw <tcplugin@gmail.com>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I didn't even know there is such a feature in it! Have never seen
>> > anything about it and on my computer Mainstage never saves anything
>> > unless I hit cmd-s or cmd-shift-s.
>>
>> I didn't know about it until I (recently) noticed that MS showed an
>> Autosave popup windows for 1-2 seconds. But it also hanged MS a couple
>> of times. Might be an issue with one of my NI plugins, see
>> http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2108652&tstart=0
>>
>> I haven't tested it but it seems that you can turn it off (see info
>> below).
>> ----
>> Auto-save happens every 300 seconds.
>>
>> To disable it, you can set the time to 0 seconds, just enter the
>> following line in Terminal.app:
>> defaults write com.apple.mainstage autosavingDelay -float 0
>>
>> To reset it, enter this:
>> defaults delete com.apple.mainstage autosavingDelay
>> ----
>>
>> --
>> Sjaak Overgaauw
>> http://premonitionfactory.com/
>> http://livelooping.be/
>> http://euroloopfest.com/
>>
>
>
>
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>

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you need to set the EDP Mix control full up
(wet only)



Todd Chambeau wrote:
> Hey Andy,
> 
> I spoke too soon. It works, however after I put down the original loop, 
> any overdubbing comes out extremely thin (EQ wise) the volume is there, 
> but it sounds like all of the mids and highs are turned to 10.
> 
> I turned off all of the internal effects etc., and tried a couple of the 
> other aux channels, but no luck.
> 
> Close but yet so far.
> 
> Todd
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 28, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Todd Chambeau wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Andy,
>>
>> The A&H actually sends it's internal effects over aux 5&6.
>> I ended up running the input to the EDP from Aux 1, then kept the 
>> output of the EDP to the Stereo Input and this does work, I have a wet 
>> loop.
>> I am not really sure why this works, since I thought only Aux 5&6 were 
>> the routable internal effects auxes. Even on the effects list right, 
>> on top of the board, it has an option for one set of effects for Aux 5 
>> and another for Aux 6?
>>
>> Thanks again for helping me out.
>> Todd
>>
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 5:19 AM, andy butler wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Todd,
>>>
>>> Firstly, let's assume that you're using the EDP on a send other than
>>> Aux 5, which you also say is an internal fx send.
>>>
>>> The whole secret is that you don't *need* to use an input intended for
>>> fx return  to bring an fx back into the mixer.
>>> Bring them back on a regular channel, and then you can do any additional
>>> routing with ease
>>>
>>>
>>> For full flexibility you need to route the Mixer's FX out of the mixer,
>>> and bring them back on a regular fx channel. I don't know your 
>>> specific mixer, so I can't tell you if that's
>>> possible.
>>> However, if the internal fx has a send to a particular Aux then just 
>>> put the EDP on that Aux and you're sorted.
>>>
>>>
>>> If the internal fx only go to the main output and nowhere else
>>> then your only option is to bring the EDP back on Channel 3
>>> and add your fx onto the dry audio in the looper, that's not
>>> going to get the exact sound you want in the case that you're looping
>>> both guitar and voice, but then it's the best you're gonna get.
>>>
>>> andy butler
>>>
>>>
>>> Todd Chambeau wrote:
>>>> Looperz,
>>>> I am looping just an acoustic guitar and vocal with my echoplex 
>>>> through a Allen & Heath Mixwizard 16:2.
>>>> I am utilizing the A&H's dual effects through auxes 5&6. Basically, 
>>>> giving my acoustic on channel one a slap delay, vocals on channel 2 
>>>> with a hall reverb.
>>>> The A&H's effects are audible until I loop, then the signals become 
>>>> dry. I would like to have the loops wet.
>>>> The EDP's input is patched to Aux 5 on the back of the mixer and the 
>>>> EDP's output is patched to ST1in also on the back of the mixer.
>>>> I've tried patching the EDP differently with no luck.
>>>> I never really utilized the A&H"s effects until now and for the life 
>>>> of me, I cannot figure this out.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Todd
>>>
>>
> 
> 

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Just want to second those props on that last DukeGood sesh! Great continuity
and nice transitions, cool sounds.  I'll try the adblocker plugin too.
Pretty much one-stop shopping with you guys eh?  -m

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>  Tanx Michael!
>
> BTW, if you use Firefox and install the adblocker plugin, guess what? No
> more ads! That includes ads on Ustream while viewing, I am now ad free!
>
> peace out ,
>
> J
>
>
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> jim and 'ffff' this was fun but the ads on the bottom of the page were a
> major distraction......althought the music did go with the J C PENNY SNUGGIE
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About a few months back, I'd written a send up, poking fun at Prog Rock.  Besides the fact that I am a closet Prog fan(not really a closet one if I just admitted to it), I also have a sense of humor.  I wrote a paragraph depicting a summary of what Prog was, and then made a list of like 40 things or more of what makes you Prog, kind of like Jeff Foxworthy's version of you might be a Redneck if...  I laughed till I was crying for two reasons, One, they hit the nail on the head about Prog, and two, they covered about everything I had written and then some(and made it funnier).  If you are interested, and if I can find the paragraph I wrote, I can reproduce it here. But here were some examples:

You might be Prog if..

Even though your music is complex and mind boggling, your concerts are so boring, that you require a dazzling light and laser show, flying inflatable animals or mascots(Floyd and Maiden come to mind) or dancing naked Amazon women(Hawkwind anyone?) to keep the audience from leaving your shows well rested.

Your keyboardist has a Mellotron

If you dumb down your song arrangements, a 40 piece orchestra could play them.

your band leader could very well be a cult leader, if he weren't your band leader(Fripp)

your band has more sophisticated technology than the studio in which they recorded.

That's all I have for now, thanks for that post.

Brian

 

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> From: Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net>
> Subject: OT: Prog Rock in 5 minutes ;-)
> To: "LD LoopersDelight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 2:11 AM
> Hi folks
> 
> I couldn't resist posting this...
> http://www.cracked.com/funny-2359-progressive-rock/
> 
> A lot of this is valid for ambient looping, too, I guess
> ;-)
> 
> have fun!
> Buzap
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Yes, it was indeed a big hit in its day... They had another hit though not 
as big, on the same album ("Moving Waves"?) I remember catching them on the 
old "In Concert" show ABC used to run on Friday nights, with a stereo 
simulcast (gasp!) on WABC-FM (later WPLJ, could be something else by now. 
Oh wait, everything's Clear Channel now, isn't it?).  Wasn't that a youthful 
Della Reese introducing them?  Yikes, I'm going to be 53 at the end of 
December.  Who cares?  My fingers still work on a guitar despite numerous 
stupid injuries. :P


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That Focus video is a must see.  If I'm not mistaken that tune was actually 
a hit.  I distinctly remember hearing it on the radio....as in top 40 radio, 
probably AM no less.  How he hits those notes in that falsetto is beyond me. 
1973?!  36 years ago?!  I know my fellow 40 somethings will feel my 
disbelief that it's been that long!


John 

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"Wasn't that a youthful Della Reese introducing them? "

I was thinking it was maybe Gladys Night......

John

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Despite the bulky, byzantine, laughable facade of Prog, therein lies the
ongoing quest for creating entire worlds in sound (and sometimes theatre).
Gentle Giant, Hatfield and the North, Van Der Graff Generator? Not gathering
dust in my collection!  I consider Soft Machine, Matching Mole, Carla Bley's
"Escalator Over The Hill" to be bastard offspring of Prog. Even Magma seems
closely linked, if only in spirit.  The Lunar Asylum?  Alien Bipolar Prog!!!
-- 
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Despite the bulky, byzantine, laughable facade of Prog, therein lies the on=
going quest for creating entire worlds in sound (and sometimes theatre). Ge=
ntle Giant, Hatfield and the North, Van Der Graff Generator? Not gathering =
dust in my collection!=A0 I consider Soft Machine, Matching Mole, Carla Ble=
y&#39;s &quot;Escalator Over The Hill&quot; to be bastard offspring of Prog=
. Even Magma seems closely linked, if only in spirit.=A0 The Lunar Asylum?=
=A0 Alien Bipolar Prog!!!<br>
-- <br>Mikko Biffle<br>Biffoz@Gmail.com<br><a href=3D"http://www.reverbnati=
on.com/biffoz">http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz</a><br>&quot;Running scar=
ed from all the usual distractions!&quot;<br>

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what's funny about this thread, is after recently purchasing(if you can cal=
l getting it for free a purchase), an 80s Yamaha FB01 tone module and build=
ing a pedalboard with stompboxes that'll help create some interesting tones=
, I was going to set up and record a live looping movement based heavily in=
 Prog, granted, there's ony so much you can do while looping, but I kept th=
e term epic, nay, overblown in mind.

--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: OT: Prog Rock in 5 minutes ;-)
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 3:23 PM
> Despite the bulky, byzantine, laughable
> facade of Prog, therein lies the ongoing quest for creating
> entire worlds in sound (and sometimes theatre). Gentle
> Giant, Hatfield and the North, Van Der Graff Generator? Not
> gathering dust in my collection!=A0 I consider Soft Machine,
> Matching Mole, Carla Bley's "Escalator Over The
> Hill" to be bastard offspring of Prog. Even Magma seems
> closely linked, if only in spirit.=A0 The Lunar Asylum?=A0
> Alien Bipolar Prog!!!
>=20
> --=20
> Mikko Biffle
> Biffoz@Gmail.com
> http://www.reverbnation.com/biffoz
> "Running scared from all the usual
> distractions!"
>=20
> =0A=0A=0A      

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Hey Andy,

I actually just figured it out (I did have the EDP's mix all the way  
up). The A&H's effects route through Auxes 5&6. I had the EDP going to  
Aux 5. The problem turns out that I have to also turn up Aux 4, to  
make the sound full again.
I am just guessing, but Aux 4 probably mixes in the unlooped signal,  
thus making it sound full?
Anyway, it works and thanks for all of your help.

Todd








On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:20 PM, andy butler wrote:

> you need to set the EDP Mix control full up
> (wet only)
>
>
>
> Todd Chambeau wrote:
>> Hey Andy,
>> I spoke too soon. It works, however after I put down the original  
>> loop, any overdubbing comes out extremely thin (EQ wise) the volume  
>> is there, but it sounds like all of the mids and highs are turned  
>> to 10.
>> I turned off all of the internal effects etc., and tried a couple  
>> of the other aux channels, but no luck.
>> Close but yet so far.
>> Todd
>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Todd Chambeau wrote:
>>> Thanks Andy,
>>>
>>> The A&H actually sends it's internal effects over aux 5&6.
>>> I ended up running the input to the EDP from Aux 1, then kept the  
>>> output of the EDP to the Stereo Input and this does work, I have a  
>>> wet loop.
>>> I am not really sure why this works, since I thought only Aux 5&6  
>>> were the routable internal effects auxes. Even on the effects list  
>>> right, on top of the board, it has an option for one set of  
>>> effects for Aux 5 and another for Aux 6?
>>>
>>> Thanks again for helping me out.
>>> Todd
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 5:19 AM, andy butler wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Todd,
>>>>
>>>> Firstly, let's assume that you're using the EDP on a send other  
>>>> than
>>>> Aux 5, which you also say is an internal fx send.
>>>>
>>>> The whole secret is that you don't *need* to use an input  
>>>> intended for
>>>> fx return  to bring an fx back into the mixer.
>>>> Bring them back on a regular channel, and then you can do any  
>>>> additional
>>>> routing with ease
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For full flexibility you need to route the Mixer's FX out of the  
>>>> mixer,
>>>> and bring them back on a regular fx channel. I don't know your  
>>>> specific mixer, so I can't tell you if that's
>>>> possible.
>>>> However, if the internal fx has a send to a particular Aux then  
>>>> just put the EDP on that Aux and you're sorted.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If the internal fx only go to the main output and nowhere else
>>>> then your only option is to bring the EDP back on Channel 3
>>>> and add your fx onto the dry audio in the looper, that's not
>>>> going to get the exact sound you want in the case that you're  
>>>> looping
>>>> both guitar and voice, but then it's the best you're gonna get.
>>>>
>>>> andy butler
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Todd Chambeau wrote:
>>>>> Looperz,
>>>>> I am looping just an acoustic guitar and vocal with my echoplex  
>>>>> through a Allen & Heath Mixwizard 16:2.
>>>>> I am utilizing the A&H's dual effects through auxes 5&6.  
>>>>> Basically, giving my acoustic on channel one a slap delay,  
>>>>> vocals on channel 2 with a hall reverb.
>>>>> The A&H's effects are audible until I loop, then the signals  
>>>>> become dry. I would like to have the loops wet.
>>>>> The EDP's input is patched to Aux 5 on the back of the mixer and  
>>>>> the EDP's output is patched to ST1in also on the back of the  
>>>>> mixer.
>>>>> I've tried patching the EDP differently with no luck.
>>>>> I never really utilized the A&H"s effects until now and for the  
>>>>> life of me, I cannot figure this out.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Todd
>>>>
>>>
>

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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:24:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Uccello <stevebassbird@yahoo.com>
Subject: Uccello Project House Concert DEC 12th 7:30pm Seaside, CA
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Hello all!=20

=A0=A0=A0 -Steve Uccello here letting you know that I will=0Abe performing =
at a house concert in Seaside on December 12th, 7:30 pm=0Aand I'd love to s=
ee you there!

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I'll be playing=0AUpright Bass, Dobro =
Slide Bass, Acoustic Guitar, 5 String Fretless=0AElectric Bass, and a bit o=
f percussion.=A0 This show will feature the art=0Aof Live Looping, which is=
 the process of recording oneself and playing=0Ait back on the spot to be l=
ayered up upon. There will also be a couple=0Aspecial guests playing a few =
songs with me, including my wife, Kathy,=0AMandolin.=A0 The show will be mo=
stly instrumental with a few vocal tunes=0Apeppered in.=A0 If you're curiou=
s to hear/see some of the music you'll be=0Ain for, you can check out some =
of my videos here:

Guitar & pizzed Upright Bass:=A0=20

http://www.youtube.com/user/UccelloProject#p/u/3/63XmxPl8fDo

Electric Bass w/ lots of harmonics & bowed Upright Bass:

http://www.youtube.com/user/UccelloProject#p/u/4/xK9oOzruAT4

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=0AThe show will be at our midwife, Maggie Benne=
tt's, house in Seaside,=0ACA, near Monterey on the central coast.=A0 Maggie=
 delivered our daughter=0AViola, and is an amazing woman-here's a link to h=
er website-definitely=0Aworth a look:=A0 http://www.gentlebirth.net/

=A0=A0=A0=A0 Show details:=0Athere is a suggested donation of $12 (which in=
cludes refreshments too)=0ATo get the address please RSVP by replying to th=
is email or calling me=0Aat 831-801-4920.=A0=20

Thanks for your time and I hope this email finds you all well!! -Steve=0A U=
ccello

http://www.steveuccello.com
http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/=0A=0A=0A      
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;">Hello all! <br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -Steve =
Uccello here letting you know that I will=0Abe performing at a house concer=
t in Seaside on December 12th, 7:30 pm=0Aand I'd love to see you there!<br>=
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; I'll be playing=0AUpright Bass, Dobro Slide Bass, Acoustic Guitar, 5 Stri=
ng Fretless=0AElectric Bass, and a bit of percussion.&nbsp; This show will =
feature the art=0Aof Live Looping, which is the process of recording onesel=
f and playing=0Ait back on the spot to be layered up upon. There will also =
be a couple=0Aspecial guests playing a few songs with me, including my wife=
, Kathy,=0AMandolin.&nbsp; The show will be mostly instrumental with a few =
vocal tunes=0Apeppered in.&nbsp; If you're curious to hear/see some of the =
music you'll be=0Ain for, you can check out some of my videos here:<br><br>=
Guitar &amp; pizzed Upright Bass:&nbsp; <br><br>http://www.youtube.com/user=
/UccelloProject#p/u/3/63XmxPl8fDo<br><br>Electric Bass w/ lots of harmonics=
 &amp; bowed Upright Bass:<br><br>http://www.youtube.com/user/UccelloProjec=
t#p/u/4/xK9oOzruAT4<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;=0AThe show will be at our midwife, Maggie Bennett's, house in Seasid=
e,=0ACA, near Monterey on the central coast.&nbsp; Maggie delivered our dau=
ghter=0AViola, and is an amazing woman-here's a link to her website-definit=
ely=0Aworth a look:&nbsp; http://www.gentlebirth.net/<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; Show details:=0Athere is a suggested donation of $12 (which incl=
udes refreshments too)=0ATo get the address please RSVP by replying to this=
 email or calling me=0Aat 831-801-4920.&nbsp; <br><br>Thanks for your time =
and I hope this email finds you all well!! -Steve=0A Uccello<br><br>http://=
www.steveuccello.com<br>http://www.uccelloprojects.blogspot.com/</td></tr><=
/table><br>=0A=0A      
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