From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 00:40:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26C3C3BE71; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:40:31 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246408431; bh=YEb5ZfRV24c+LzDyR5of8HYvDyhQeZKVJtgWzFtd+88=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ps015K489FdzqRqEuqHhgu3RE7D3HPeTL4dOtyJSvkIPtRmsIsmlLFnEGtAsPUCjt3yGqcgA5QXL38fM66IsrODcgLLgBGzQKLxOPbgRxjZY9VF68e4Etwac0r8p1njFrRAOakmBg64YFuEmTImPwVxnuTlfdsSMDJa1bklge/w= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=A9uvRV7iD6ShBrZ7kWQK1cmHQs/WuGYqjd5x9iog/AFUTKMZZhOY6J87ymB4G9gAU9YWUz/9rpDc8huNdJj1XFRzUIBGWMNz+0SW0eKVLtGBJajgtzy/AEqXiNXlp2nOaqkC7O3JxUlUC1kr7qKkB8WkNZ4L6yCkKaFjX9kZwAc=; Message-ID: <692802.99780.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: q.QbKigVM1ngo6cyCQ1hQpYtUxp_HZmYyo2XOEEIGPdpypharTAMw7oWkfL2Uyev95NYdRxDQqa2ZggTOV1hZQFVOWrifyE2t7ejzM63p1wjtfKYQBXWiLA1OGA_wQzNGXVyN11UGlralPMDo9ZQY3Jx9JawuzHyvmAWcEiZaIznRwMxZtoxzNhXzBuGajiuNF2E.fD8AnqVLvklGnFPwMXfvvIZ.pQ2vXXLpWSI4W6hTl9W6i8CzFMxiHMwn8k49XpDfYeZfhxcKTYzFJFGcPou2CLKwuQoE3_RCqOvzPalcugu_R8jQIH0eWVcOwFU0bUd_p0opftXhDTvF7_tR3aafEQ85_y7paKa6w-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.43 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 References: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:33:51 -0700 (PDT) From: margaret noble Subject: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-280574846-1246408431=:99780" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:40:32 +0000 (UTC) --0-280574846-1246408431=:99780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello List, I have been working on tightening my sound quality. Couple of questions: - Has anyone else noticed the Boss RC-50 to be particularly noisy? - With respect to multiple gear in one live rig with pedals, mixers, compressors, drum machines, mics and too many cables all around, how have you guys combated the noise floor that creeps in? Thanks for your feedback! http://margaretnoble.net/ --0-280574846-1246408431=:99780 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hello List,

I have been working on tightening my sound quality. Couple of questions:

- Has anyone else noticed the Boss RC-50 to be particularly noisy?

- With respect to multiple gear in one live rig with pedals, mixers, compressors, drum machines, mics and too many cables all around, how have you guys combated the noise floor that creeps in?

Thanks for your feedback!
 
http://margaretnoble.net/




--0-280574846-1246408431=:99780-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 00:59:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 233D13BE78; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cT9wJRtcr4bCUylq0JXINuTQwWbbQGcY6a6GKUBzpFA=; b=lU3VOT4fZl3yYPTkva7ZHScZNe37Ug+fwi+IvYrSimkNBpjcQPDzaxT7zIfokFFx4a m+HbsjPSvLNYiQIwz0zkqqL0sdJmR+w5Cvvez813FuIy4RMXsOyRhvOn2GrHHpPpDAww bluxK0aHaD9ebnv7ObHVSOO78LWXwTHgpMuDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wfr3jtY22O058nwae5BhLbhsYGDAG8+xSt/pkwjxMeOofI0oyh4yAI1/eC/TeXlHS7 jQa7mRbNzL8H1j/AHFWb8EqZ27kDQWxN1PYCqpiLXWIDnHFGnxJ8nhuuorc3WyIebKwg 7VoydVGmBw7nzJCyjX2b0MW1LdAWA3t+8cO8Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <692802.99780.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> <692802.99780.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:59:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:59:12 +0000 (UTC) I can't comment on the RC-50 but I'm on your website and it's quite nice. Love the audio recordings. Any looper can be prone to noise especially if you're micing instruments (like your woodwinds for instance) instead of going direct, or leaving loops in record with a high gain effect in front of it. Your best bet to keep your loops clean would be to put your looper in a send channel buss of your mixer (don't skimp on your mixer either) and use the send knobs to only feed your open loop when you want to actually add to it from that track. >From the sound of your music the last thing you want is a gate on anything. Just be really mindful of open mics feeding a loop that's in record. Also, make it part of your sound! On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:33 PM, margaret noble wrote: > Hello List, > > I have been working on tightening my sound quality. Couple of questions: > > - Has anyone else noticed the Boss RC-50 to be particularly noisy? > > - With respect to multiple gear in one live rig with pedals, mixers, > compressors, drum machines, mics and too many cables all around, how have > you guys combated the noise floor that creeps in? > > Thanks for your feedback! > > http://margaretnoble.net/ > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 02:46:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B59053BE78; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 02:46:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YNt3ChwyJRLbVYPCWejo6ZwNjCYYQv4EOtwWAjAqrmY=; b=we7B+kcSttbSlG+e7KXrrMpnsga5GpGC6rPyv+TGP6b/kflmvIaTVB3bZTNVdAYFKt Pfhp9OuD18ZXF7sQKPPJ6UNV8zLAxe6O2AyC5wgDekzStzpF2Li+7rpuqvKmHJNAWNGb xhtJ96lKHrjy2lhkhkmcfMfbFmR2ZH0+aeBLU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rhwS8OD61ON8oPDc9dqfhgv91hc8KhQTjgvQIe8LetqYyHkcP359aoL5CJAxSxkJuB 8SsnHox5GHTrD3KirxkBZoCsHMeJF+phkc5w8mdszmmBtOZZdlO5cx2wJAUjt3ZKCldp MuHmFdlkuQEYcr4DBUmDLgXY+/wb4HtnDXD+Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:38:49 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ubuntu based rig From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646c506b4249a046d9bd24f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 02:46:31 +0000 (UTC) --00163646c506b4249a046d9bd24f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SooperLooper on Linux? Details .. .or was that a dead end? Dennis On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > i read on the net that audacity was not working at all with versions > 7, 8 of ubuntu. but i think they solved the issue. i'm doing any audio > editing work in wavelab 5 (PC) before i jump to the logic apps i have > installed in my imac months ago, but hadn't time to learn yet > (waveburner,soundtrack,etc..). > > here a list of all the opensource audio apps that come with ubuntu studio > 9.04. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList > > > > > > 2009/7/1, Jim Goodin : > > Though I'm more mac based these days I've been running Ubuntu @r mons > > on a dell latitude I have from work. Next to osx I love it. > > > > I've not done any audio work on it but what open source audio editor > > are you using Raul? > > > > I use audacity for osx and have for windows but have not researched it > > for ubuntu. > > > > A while back did yo or someone mention using lilypad notation sw? > > Guess I'm ot there. > > > > J > > > > On 6/30/09, Raul Bonell wrote: > >> has anybody had success building a looping rig or modular fx setup > >> (ala. bidule, energyXT,etc) > >> in ubuntu studio or other linux based OS (not counting OSX)? > >> > >> any opensource applications related available? > >> > >> tell us your experiences, > >> thanks. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... > > > > music links... > > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > > www.myspace.com/jindream > > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > > > video work/editing... > > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > > > social networking... > > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > > > > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --00163646c506b4249a046d9bd24f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SooperLooper on Linux? Details .. .or was that a dead end?

Dennis
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Raul Bonel= l <raul.bonel= l@gmail.com> wrote:
i read on the net= that audacity was not working at all with versions
7, 8 of ubuntu. but i think they solved the issue. i'm doing any audio<= br> editing work in wavelab 5 (PC) before i jump to the logic apps i have
installed in my imac months ago, but hadn't time to learn yet
(waveburner,soundtrack,etc..).

here a list of all the opensource audio apps that come with ubuntu studio 9= .04.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList





2009/7/1, Jim Goodin <jimgoo= dinmusic@gmail.com>:
> Though I'm more mac based these = days I've been running Ubuntu @r mons
> on a dell latitude I have from work. =A0Next to osx I love it.
>
> I've not done any audio work on it but what open source audio edit= or
> are you using Raul?
>
> I use audacity for osx and have for windows but have not researched it=
> for ubuntu.
>
> A while back did yo or someone mention using lilypad notation sw?
> Guess I'm ot there.
>
> J
>
> On 6/30/09, Raul Bonell <r= aul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
>> has anybody had success building a looping rig or modular fx setup=
>> (ala. bidule, energyXT,etc)
>> in ubuntu studio or other linux based OS (not counting OSX)?
>>
>> any opensource applications related available?
>>
>> tell us your experiences,
>> thanks.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
>> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoo= dinmusic.com
> www.ch= inapaintingmusic.com
> ww= w.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.mysp= ace.com/jindream
> ww= w.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> ww= w.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> ww= w.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>


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http://audiozoloft.com
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--00163646c506b4249a046d9bd24f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 03:09:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78FF73BE77; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 03:09:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4KagAu7d4f54DrzyxDg90uuz90VQWMX9d1KoSDrRxtE=; b=Iov4LMS5WCKNc+ZfqLq5/U6yfoX3waygSHIz/zIbAUoXKtp1NEKDP/zDBbJ95d78Zm eDUrenCONyxMxenbeLgqDLMArA68endNjBCYSwo6FXB/bOnF2VQARcOW8E+gbw+nor7f CN/bHs3BtLxDO5QDaYJbw9Z7v5UPEkeKbWzLY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=r6i2iRzNsK2E6rnCiZeQ48zawLQqfwkJn7sN92N2OPSgKe2B7Rjpav7TqcT8UgMKiq k97ootzc/381TGAH0aXM0esDUCTdCwmg0C3v44ApvWw1GhZ4HsRAdedNJECzJMmxkvdg xmN3wErdrvHkLABpW1NzULFa4dd1q6SzTTakc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:09:44 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110906302009w48538744t49073801b0197270@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ubuntu based rig From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644ddea4fb4db046d9c416f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 03:09:45 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644ddea4fb4db046d9c416f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've tried ubuntustudio, 64studio, puredyne, studiotogo, angnula, Fedora/CCRMA. There are other promising distros emerging to tempt me (or meta-distros like Gentoo pro audio overlay) but I now use openSUSE as my primary studio platform. I have three machines running this way, each with multiple instances of sooperlooper as needed, along with various other applications. I'm a little snowed under at work at moment, but if I can offer any tips I'll be happy to. Weekends are always better. And when I get around to updating my website I'll be putting more details of my setup up there. regards Michael N --0016e644ddea4fb4db046d9c416f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've tried ubuntustudio, 64studio, puredyne, studiotogo, angnula, Fedor= a/CCRMA. There are other promising distros emerging to tempt me (or meta-di= stros like Gentoo pro audio overlay) but I now use openSUSE as my primary s= tudio platform. I have three machines running this way, each with multiple = instances of sooperlooper as needed, along with various other applications.= I'm a little snowed under at work at moment, but if I can offer any ti= ps I'll be happy to. Weekends are always better.=A0 And when I get arou= nd to updating my website I'll be putting more details of my setup up t= here.

regards

Michael N

--0016e644ddea4fb4db046d9c416f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 03:19:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D4613BE81; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 03:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qGlOHHnh+VYVqtqu7wQPeSzQgahQSp6jt40pHsEGGP8=; b=ODs0Oy4aHz1gv0ShQ6d6Yh+rHMvq6FogUIQw5ottQ5jRZWS2RiCnk6fFd5tcOtiEf6 UQxQkXkZy9/XjVx1UMQB/rRVq8Gpk/h2DO5wE3bhRAkl/8JaZZlTqWostaWQ6ztuEmeW i67pGD90xdw++Jr50V6NScuPo0Xmf5niffA1c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PeU8kug8kNm0gBGWpY4XlZqHWkXWFaimmLAj7eY8x4IhXly+vdFVeL55NgIRMh7kZK LTN0Erys+bDWpqpz1Ys7LDGnBtPZA49DVr3YGSRW9Yz1pEcI+XDiRWjfAzjMuxVm+WTK QM2Y/21BPjxnnFH/uuOqYIsPQ13aQ5g2zAOWY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <339c30110906302009w48538744t49073801b0197270@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110906302009w48538744t49073801b0197270@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:19:28 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110906302019v1f4fc32flb864b556dbf4c0dc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ubuntu based rig From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644d5e01b5f5a046d9c646f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 03:19:29 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644d5e01b5f5a046d9c646f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In terms of modular fx, there are a few options. Of course, there is energyXT for linux, as you mentioned, which i have not tried. You can also run apps under wine with low latencies - I use audiomulch in this manner with 5ms latencies successfully when needed. There are also a number of native linux apps> I've had some success with playing with Alsamodularsynth, and recently I finally have been able to setup Ingen, a very attractive and promising app. I also want to use CLAM, another modular framework that should soon eb able to export your patches, as VSTs and can already be used to produce native linux audio processing or synthesis apps to some degree. They haven't released a stable release for a while though, so short of uysing the development version ( a constant challenge for linux) you won't get soem fo the newer more exciting features. Of course, there is always the jack of all trades, puredata, which runs equally well under all platforms. And I could go on... By the way, sooperlooper under linux is most certainly not a dead-end, it started out as a native linux plugin a long time ago, before becoming a native linux app, and then finally venturing into the world of OSX. -Michael --0016e644d5e01b5f5a046d9c646f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In terms of modular fx, there are a few options. Of course, there is energy= XT for linux, as you mentioned, which i have not tried. You can also run ap= ps under wine with low latencies - I use audiomulch in this manner with 5ms= latencies successfully when needed. There are also a number of native linu= x apps> I've had some success with playing with Alsamodularsynth, an= d recently I finally have been able to setup Ingen, a very attractive and p= romising app. I also want to use CLAM, another modular framework that shoul= d soon eb able to export your patches, as VSTs and can already be used to p= roduce native linux audio processing or synthesis apps to some degree. They= haven't released a stable release for a while though, so short of uysi= ng the development version ( a constant challenge for linux) you won't = get soem fo the newer more exciting features. Of course, there is always th= e jack of all trades, puredata, which runs equally well under all platforms= . And I could go on...

By the way, sooperlooper under linux is most certainly not a dead-end, = it started out as a native linux plugin a long time ago, before becoming a = native linux app, and then finally venturing into the world of OSX.

-Michael
--0016e644d5e01b5f5a046d9c646f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 04:41:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8A0E3BE78; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 04:41:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.26.131] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Subject: Video Projectors Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:40:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0082_01C9F9D3.B96576E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2009 04:40:20.0026 (UTC) FILETIME=[09F049A0:01C9FA06] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 04:41:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0082_01C9F9D3.B96576E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What was the final verdict on the best portable video projector for the = money, back when the group was discussing this a few months ago? Kris ------=_NextPart_000_0082_01C9F9D3.B96576E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What was the final verdict on the best = portable=20 video projector for the money, back when the group was discussing this a = few=20 months ago?
 
Kris
 
------=_NextPart_000_0082_01C9F9D3.B96576E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 09:13:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01F613BE7E; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 219568823/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.217.235/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.217.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An4BAPPFSkpPRtnr/2dsb2JhbAAIzwKEEAWJHg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,322,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="219568823" Message-ID: <4A4B2C06.3070002@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:27:34 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY References: <142673.46270.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Mark Sottilaro wrote: > I'd be super > curious to put the Axe-FX against the IK stuff and see what's what. > > > The Axe-fx runs at a very high sample rate (afaik). I wouldn't be at all surprised if it had a real advantage for distorted sounds. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 09:26:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D6653BE7F; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:26:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 220175138/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.217.235/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.217.235 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An4BAP/ISkpPRtnr/2dsb2JhbAAIzmuEEAWJHg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,322,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="220175138" Message-ID: <4A4B2F16.2000907@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:40:38 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) References: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> <692802.99780.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <692802.99780.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4LhZ9.A.PuE.QvySKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:26:40 +0000 (UTC) margaret noble wrote: > Hello List, > > I have been working on tightening my sound quality. Couple of questions: > > - Has anyone else noticed the Boss RC-50 to be particularly noisy? no. Are you using the mic direct into it though? > > - With respect to multiple gear in one live rig with pedals, mixers, > compressors, drum machines, mics and too many cables all around, how > have you guys combated the noise floor that creeps in? 1) getting the gain staging right ( Google "gain staging"). 2) watch out for those cheap cables 3) a compressor is a noise booster, only use if really needed andy > > Thanks for your feedback! > > http://margaretnoble.net/ > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 09:33:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 617C83BE77; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:33:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090701093342949.E7AF77000083@mwinf3513.me.freeserve.com Message-Id: From: Steve Bingham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906301454y1f84036ame210312c44f88a00@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Short live video clip posted (Live Looping Festival Rome 2009) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:33:12 +0100 References: <66f9cc1e0906301454y1f84036ame210312c44f88a00@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:33:44 +0000 (UTC) More please!! Great stuff as usual, Per. Steve On 30 Jun 2009, at 22:54, Per Boysen wrote: > Got the first video clip from my Rome gig today http://bit.ly/JeKZH. > Big thanks to Milco who filmed and sent me the video! > > Per > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 09:55:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B82053BE7E; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Dz1QNEGdV8adVSST5kEpwr8F/V6pZ2udvtjaJ1IIwPQ=; b=QkHj4vE6stiAODlJJzg3ASGwx2atRgC+Wc+d+GBiK8Qkm4lzVpytAaHGt6KVXmrlWQ 5JrTzT0GDwuE+pIf9jKvNCFgDHivAY5INBJm/SJIIOtsvqSjfQTrJ9WAcEcJB0PnHE5j EZXAc11vZ3tOMw7khtkC0v1px7b/G6TnWBadc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=P28LP3hXtEMg/rb+aUOwGKTwCJyQUlPjE64OyFHobJlKOZlsDtezLFTKT5ffQW8uqd wV1XX/UmH+Tz04eEg8AYf4LZCgWT8kvaQmebfZnm3buR+GMZelXynrkPW5T0w8RttgtL X0YY66G5o3GOlyl7rKSmI2RewCZe+TcxTLTdA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:55:08 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907010255w55d2feck152711744f0a71b8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ubuntu based rig From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:55:09 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > SooperLooper on Linux? Details .. .or was that a dead end? "Dead end"...? I was under the impression that's where SL really excels! Check the SL web page for details. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 11:07:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 937D23BE7E; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1246446469; l=418; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=MxDaZHhRDWf1IOBH/09YKu9BoIw=; b=mtSte7Ek0jOAbjluEdOfUG1M++RiQH2uQ1aLh7aeiaEhYnEezu5OltHR6yUkjW9b4m5 uZIoGp2FrM0YOA/OEh/p0s4EmhhPIreJ1Jwqb9XIT23N3P1vM0C+9HjWCBKcVaRjtyQgq gtpaoAICks86chewp0D9Ibj0kEsM6e9qv70= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <011301c9fa3c$9f9343a0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <66f9cc1e0906301454y1f84036ame210312c44f88a00@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Short live video clip posted (Live Looping Festival Rome 2009) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:46:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Good Stuff, Per! Christo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: "Loopers-Delight" Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:54 PM Subject: Short live video clip posted (Live Looping Festival Rome 2009) > Got the first video clip from my Rome gig today http://bit.ly/JeKZH. > Big thanks to Milco who filmed and sent me the video! > > Per > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 11:07:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDE033BE86; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1246446468; l=594; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=Mdu3QpzP+O2vFyo4VPyrDa0OvNg=; b=RhrxeEDqfmKuJbsX+TO4v1grD3vdZQ5+xNf8nQ3XMR6Dx2uKUJHiJg8qVPFD70FzRqs U8YWOudbuqkI1wNj+gYXiTiAdofCEui4P03VeKRWU5rGTWAF4lYPTnQFlwDfTM24TjNmT yrHUndXxwdOhKP6ljjAJtz7cVHQ+0VqXGwg= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <011201c9fa3c$9f77cc60$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <7334ca1b0906301034h349021c0x5e67b82f05e51ea5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual sound and Vision Festival Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:41:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Is it easy to install the software that I would need for filming with the webcam? I hate complicated computer action. Christo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:34 PM Subject: Re: Virtual sound and Vision Festival Christo said: "Great idea! (Although I personally don´t have a webcam.)" Seriously, with prices for webcams starting around ten bucks, that can hardly be an excuse. Get one! Rainer (inventor of that odd virtual festival thing idea ;) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 11:31:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB1E83BE77; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:31:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VMl18BFIiY25t8piZk7iybCW5XGcjLaSqDWe4A9EpvU=; b=qEi3gB9xzhcS//cbvlFY0/soFu5VgX6YMyJM3cgu/QxFm8uzYbmn+ffEle2uCv7+iY OVz0bDYnQNZ5Ewcnv/1BbEmSMNzTmdEGd4V8pqNa6cckhbC78vjRuO5WTYt8kCXbUDFH SK2EHI+jWF8ZD3KcuSlNNYSjSK/GERK0JZlqc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dVezMLFjuvBWXZrb9vSH8WP+IELTRm0oOs0pREHxkVgeS0Ttt6je5sX7Hq1UTkOCXZ cxpFvpe9imfyNmUuKHmhaTEnXfUXv8yeXI/0FQ2jWFCW9VVOSg9UGpgJJmZzLNNqq+2J MNC31lb1Dt0OO6HBob/yAM3crWyO6FQvR0qtE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907010255w55d2feck152711744f0a71b8@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907010255w55d2feck152711744f0a71b8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:31:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ubuntu based rig From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:31:38 +0000 (UTC) yes. sooperlooper comes included by default in the ubuntu studio 9.04 dist. 2009/7/1, Per Boysen : > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: >> SooperLooper on Linux? Details .. .or was that a dead end? > > > "Dead end"...? I was under the impression that's where SL really > excels! Check the SL web page for details. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 12:00:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1847F3BE77; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=O3C9bY9J6DnsIxz0KjalWPMbkV9GPqF5eyAp8FLC4Mc=; b=u/CqTtdiE4CWpGuN/ub399ARAjGgsrAn9wFz46ynE/PRPqTg8dfJfamYpnMrRYveHE jiNtj8rq9j6sLa7Bu0QMey3xa7m3VFi50c4D/0Y+0yONdGtbk97MbbpnHCUE0SUkfOVi Xt5BPuVef4TYEsKr2rA1mxdd5bsY29lgYnl7w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PVsnhtyrUXOVTeC+78tATVginfGusoq9adNlrnCo5a4slWbd8sGJt7pEENJK8hc5a6 FGCV/ohHchQBbE7LLZ7HKG1pstf4oIoQIag9A4SspFPIDHqBnSddWSwMI8Hq0AZ+t0V1 jj0h/hoZ8h/ggl35L9aBIsqQgmtcG3s6gadWk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:00:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Video Projectors From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:00:07 +0000 (UTC) ... i think rick was talking about an epson lcd machine some weeks ago ... 2009/7/1, Krispen Hartung : > What was the final verdict on the best portable video projector for the > money, back when the group was discussing this a few months ago? > > Kris > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From h_yaro7@msn.com Wed Jul 1 12:08:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 332 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:08:25 UTC Received: from blu0-omc3-s35.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s35.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.110]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C853BE71 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU119-W17 ([65.55.116.73]) by blu0-omc3-s35.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 1 Jul 2009 05:02:41 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f255406a-4f30-46ca-a048-d9e273d3c0bb_" X-Originating-IP: [41.203.239.71] Reply-To: From: h yaro Subject: FROM MR HARONA YARO Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:02:41 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2009 12:02:41.0616 (UTC) FILETIME=[D5F58500:01C9FA43] To: undisclosed-recipients:; --_f255406a-4f30-46ca-a048-d9e273d3c0bb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FROM MR HARONA YARO =20 The Head Of File And Auditing Department=2C=20 African Development Bank (A.D.B).=20 Ouagadougou Burkina-Faso( West Africa).=20 =20 CONFIDENTIAL IS THE CASE. 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= --_f255406a-4f30-46ca-a048-d9e273d3c0bb_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 12:11:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE9FF3BE77; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A4B5261.6090707@soundscapes.us> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:11:13 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #638 for June 25, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #638 June 25, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on the Ricochet Gathering. The Featured CD at Midnight was disk four from La Gomera on the Ricochet Dream label. Ricochet Gathering: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#jun PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Paul Ellis The Unveiling The Last Hiding Place of Ravenous Evening Beauty (Groove) Saul Stokes Vapor Trails Villa Galaxia (Binary) Steve Dinsdale New Church 2 New Church (Northern Echo) Mystified Bending Frigid Radiance (Triple Bath) Ricochet Gathering Ocean Valley La Gomera d4 (Ricochet Dream) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Ricochet Gathering Quietest Place On La Gomera d4 (Ricochet Dream) Earth Ricochet Gathering Tecina Passage La Gomera d4 (Ricochet Dream) Ricochet Gathering Sleeping Stones La Gomera d4 (Ricochet Dream) Ricochet Gathering Isle De Gomera La Gomera d4 (Ricochet Dream) Ricochet Gathering Big Sun part 2 * La Gomera d4 (Ricochet Dream) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Jeffrey Koepper. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Etherea on Air Space Records. Jeffrey Koepper: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#jul Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 12:41:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFD2A3BE7E; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:41:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 36138 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:41:08 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=T12jMGp4m9QdzDVa48kPKUyZUYJQBShA5YXxNE909Gc=; b=MEijnCqpBWDR76KZgMSX14FCs4n4eqQvssj7nDoiuY0sM7n5yh2fy6vFhQYGekBzls kHtc+y9dgOQ7Hizx3E7J43B7WiPhwHsouGrbhTCepAxrW49Xq3v3UcQN0dsALuan84s7 ecgiTaaLsAtERxPmYgDc0TdvKq2RaDwh8mQ6k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=b1RTm5kjzzuahyX8rnxkmVWafAWBWAs1reOXXhK/HzqJoF+/vASN9O9pKYBK4p7ee4 nASBE1Ht2Gqju/CO5mR0SdeYc3R4Dce3GMMudQTqmItgz14GvwPZ74zcj8OMwFVlivEH NerPT1RL4WyCM8KkWWEBG39HDHsiATQo9VU2w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <339c30110906302019v1f4fc32flb864b556dbf4c0dc@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110906302009w48538744t49073801b0197270@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110906302019v1f4fc32flb864b556dbf4c0dc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 06:35:25 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ubuntu based rig From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364577ee5834f1046da42874 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:41:08 +0000 (UTC) --0016364577ee5834f1046da42874 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My mistake...I remember seeing the initial Mac OSX version and totally overlooked the Linux one...but I don't recall seeing it in any of the recent Ubuntu distros; probably because I wasn't looking for it specifically. Time to do some more digging! Thanks! ~~Dennis On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:19 PM, michael noble wrote: > > By the way, sooperlooper under linux is most certainly not a dead-end, it > started out as a native linux plugin a long time ago, before becoming a > native linux app, and then finally venturing into the world of OSX. > > -Michael > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --0016364577ee5834f1046da42874 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My mistake...I remember seeing the initial Mac OSX version and totally over= looked the Linux one...but I don't recall seeing it in any of the recen= t Ubuntu distros; probably because I wasn't looking for it specifically= . Time to do some more digging!

Thanks!

~~Dennis

On Tue, Jun 3= 0, 2009 at 9:19 PM, michael noble <looplog@gmail.com> wrote:

By the way, sooperlooper under linux is most certainly not a dead-end, = it started out as a native linux plugin a long time ago, before becoming a = native linux app, and then finally venturing into the world of OSX.

-Michael



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--0016364577ee5834f1046da42874-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 12:52:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 964AE3BE7F; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246452742; bh=y5CeRRwGqM1z6Lzthfbs49xp2ed/Ni1lBwQ1wUgHmh0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=knMwCLi4BofDOKPxnrNj9ZG6qzN1OvspUzSTyeqSXeqtD8oOHklPQnaRKBrO31Lfx0N0KTl9EurmM5IfdOEz8aiXh/FNWQ8SpvDdgUdnakInt84zA6USSfGX7jaelKvXbuuiPfUZPXU9Z3FtUI+i4Gr+4kHspN2U2uKsvvC7Amg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HHhf63V6zAb/gPVa9OkGATz8zTu7gGKbEjuoaqt68vOu8hk8RLM/5vK8aZZnf2aIETKdMA1a3Xk5xKYVtnJi4QMnGf7Ji1Grr+mhjhgjUgs5ZJCArVUsphs9KYzzxUDUfACPtDARwbb0gke1pqi3OiiOSbuIX1nCgUfUajZxNtE=; Message-ID: <456740.57369.qm@web110203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Y3gCt.wVM1muKRxCAMbODtKZaudQlaNE4ek6IqOnbc9tIhVgPvP_mockCE3tiTD5nOhauBKYbpng22goXSFrtP78jjWPY8qJUPvQc8R.o6Whcv4GOZjLb0_TorbVCQ0g4NQWXHc1w2jZw0ip1UBjMmhXQ5tH15CjzKKN5m8kokB8gCy.2tfLolE522su.i6hpsXm_do5LWdPdAWTrGSLh7qC_vEhRRGrtKYYc5gz0ILeQiGHc6waUBBRHL7f0HZwJ24XTgkj1JQ9UDNUGgFqN5I_F0Uyh0s6LSubEzxiB5l6K1mPb_VlfY2Jy4TB4KiIJDDYcew5vFG.SldR.vyo7L1o67VTHu_eUTAgIFIGbdc2y4P9PQSquj8bwilQQe3rUUGDXP9O X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 05:52:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: ot.....music show alert To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1719102093-1246452741=:57369" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:52:24 +0000 (UTC) --0-1719102093-1246452741=:57369 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Beeps & boops are a part of the natural world. --- On Tue, 6/30/09, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: From: nemoguitt@aol.com Subject: ot.....music show alert To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 1:21 PM looks to be an interesting show tonite on PBS.....NOVA.....this will be the second show in a week on brain imaging and music.....they seem to think that music is good for us and children.....music is getting a lot of good press lately.....maybe they will bring it back to schools in the near future.....:).....m Save energy, paper and money -- get the Green Toolbar. --0-1719102093-1246452741=:57369 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Beeps & boops are a part of the natural world.

--- On Tue, 6/30/09, nemoguitt@aol.com <nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:

From: nemoguitt@aol.com <nemoguitt@aol.com>
Subject: ot.....music show alert
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 1:21 PM

looks to be an interesting show tonite on PBS.....NOVA.....this will be the second show in a week on brain imaging and music.....they seem to think that music is good for us and children.....music is getting a lot of good press lately.....maybe they will bring it back to schools in the near future.....:).....m


--0-1719102093-1246452741=:57369-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 13:57:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D0D33BE81; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A4B6B49.3020200@soundscapes.us> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:57:29 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Top 20 Report for June, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:57:56 +0000 (UTC) WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for June, 2009. Shows #635 to #638; 4-June-2009 to 25-June-2009 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. The Special Focus for June was the Ricochet Gathering: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#jun ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL =========================================================== Cluster - Qua - Nepenthe Dirk Serries - Microphonics I-V - Tonefloat Dirk Serries - Microphonics VI - Tonefloat Faryus - Lucid Dreams - Faria Francois Couture - Tape Speed - Disques Boghei Frank Va Bogaert and Erik Wollo - Air Machine - Ace Free System Projekt - Procyon - none Johan Agebjorn - Mossebo - Lotuspike John DuVal - Cassiopeia's Playground - Earth Mantra Kevin Braheny - Galaxies - Hearts of Space Mystified - Frigid Radiance - Triple Bath Paul Ellis - The Last Hiding Place of Beauty - Groove Picture Palace Music - Curriculum Vitae I - Ricochet Dream Radio Massacre International - E-Live 2008 - Northern Echo Ray Carl Daye - Spectral Navigator - Magnatune Ricochet Gathering - La Gomera - Ricochet Dream Saul Stokes - Villa Galaxia - Binary Steve Dinsdale - New Church - Northern Echo Terra Ambient - Wanderlust - Lotuspike Vic Hennegan - Aqua Vista - Alien Tribes Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 14:26:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E69B93BE85; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:26:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; bh=sDpujoesZzE5Qbnwoyo8GBj2dGTKL0tcDxFwLWhx3wQ=; b=Xr9+z2lu4nxYDLej/xfUXnZQrE1iBYcU4LnnCg7fL7ZRr2h4l7sJ3o1JRtBBBJAxRu KZFCzI32cyiSPIPMamRcjfo//ne6vWOnjkFCwOT5kbdDVYpxrmozfoSo0GBKy3ehjQ+U FNz+srLqXrW68wWKJMWnl58vjou8+6kHXfgRM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=KrFcc24aqTQOyhjJqvIA1OWPdEKNbDY6S5XAsBxEOM1oZXjgWBIm1sAMslT/JzCmfi 0RCl4bEVDzRvZiWZ+JLSrYpGfT7tOVwTwrLSiLKt9SCEO9g9TcCG4xi9sUvaJvth6/kG /+LD4cOOupPBo/ZDpGYcOeklUsRR+dFEQCSWc= Message-Id: <882C0DC1-3963-4435-BA96-8600FFC45AF2@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--284184869 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: OT: 2 dreams, a poem and a swap Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:27:50 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:26:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--284184869 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some recent experiments in short minimalist lo-fi video. 2 dream pieces: Submerged http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIssbAqaWRQ A view out my kitchen window, the quality of light and the plastic over the window make the world seem like it is underwater. Tiny moonlight piano http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nG4_AmWGsw Based on a dream where moonlight plays the piano. Poem: Beseecher - a sculptural poetry device http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxoPrGMt8IU A MIDI swap: Mbira Kalimba interlude : tchimwo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bq1gpyk4gA My other kitchen window with a view of morning glory. I switched a MIDI bassline for a choral patch that I would not tend to use but I think it works alright, maybe because of its brevity. :-) No loops, which is rare for me, but hopefully there is some amusement to be found. regards BobC http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier5 --Apple-Mail-2--284184869 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Some recent experiments in = short minimalist lo-fi video.

2 dream = pieces:

Submerged
A view out my kitchen window, the = quality of light and the plastic over the window make the world seem = like it is underwater.

Tiny moonlight piano  
Based on a dream where moonlight = plays the piano.

Poem:
 
A MIDI swap:

Mbira Kalimba interlude : tchimwo =  
My other kitchen window with a view = of morning glory. I switched a MIDI bassline for a choral patch that I = would not tend to use but I think it works alright, maybe because of its = brevity. :-)



No loops, which is rare for me, but hopefully there is = some amusement to be found.


regards


BobC



= --Apple-Mail-2--284184869-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 14:50:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED9003BE82; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:50:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <7D77B6C041D947F8B82F946265CC1348@pcfabio> From: "eterogeneo" To: References: <66f9cc1e0906301454y1f84036ame210312c44f88a00@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Short live video clip posted (Live Looping Festival Rome 2009) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 16:50:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: smtp3.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:50:41 +0000 (UTC) From: "Steve Bingham" > More please!! It will come.... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 15:08:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 882813BE78; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246460901; bh=t/XDdcgCb177FDA3cXWnTSDuSS/UH7wFh9/rBV9PYNI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VRO6nKxNIaQDlKf/hlLG9BNAxJCTK1GsQU03fi26QQOYwCWnb2Z70irf7GVZeX3kiNljHKKU8oGoZFHBGKED4TMISy8WgDBx+QCTcvMcqnBJOGagjgL3uXEITv73cMf0cpxaA86siU5lWumNLitj4P8O8iR0YtLxG+P3NXiyO2c= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BTt4aDW8OFdBoRd8k1nLHcndIoelnhFJJJeBwWQBO+NHwMfk1VgfQ/K+0F1NDzqqaJ/WnnlVs1pApB9WoKY4xXu1pRwPR0nQWNobQv6/MwqRtQxAI7G7ROh/D21gynjD7GHbaDynUJDprWLHsuhJbYxXUd7McyvdMKDFipGp+XA=; Message-ID: <606129.87810.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: HcGgC_0VM1mjVE.wE17iZ1bMetBl5wvWhy7mW_k5x8jBRsHz2ZkUas4okbV0iGsk5PFHLCs.k3nCK5DEs6T9znMU_X.uE.eJ1c66CPHIjkdf6fO8hyLak15C8EPA8.TLVhQ_WwpXIWwBP6NlfaBdmXmbGTZBr8L.oS2PGGdbaL7b8RLwU7iSEfpDbQ_YEBn11fcGl.QG37zB0IhZw5D_BSlXsjSmSXeM.IWfDst5hgzs_5aZR3f7WAUXkbr64D3.HiPzR4F60607FYOI8ijgtiobfVMopbCYnxVc6TLVQ7U3SMBoR4.zdf.sQLHGvArkoHbgnvwTqNSQ5wm_RR3VzZ2MF4JZsUt.RvnXC_KQ X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1357.22 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 References: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> <692802.99780.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:08:21 -0700 (PDT) From: margaret noble Subject: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1643655603-1246460901=:87810" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:08:22 +0000 (UTC) --0-1643655603-1246460901=:87810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks! http://margaretnoble.net/ ________________________________ From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:59:10 PM Subject: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) I can't comment on the RC-50 but I'm on your website and it's quite nice. Love the audio recordings. Any looper can be prone to noise especially if you're micing instruments (like your woodwinds for instance) instead of going direct, or leaving loops in record with a high gain effect in front of it. Your best bet to keep your loops clean would be to put your looper in a send channel buss of your mixer (don't skimp on your mixer either) and use the send knobs to only feed your open loop when you want to actually add to it from that track. >From the sound of your music the last thing you want is a gate on anything. Just be really mindful of open mics feeding a loop that's in record. Also, make it part of your sound! On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:33 PM, margaret noble wrote: > Hello List, > > I have been working on tightening my sound quality. Couple of questions: > > - Has anyone else noticed the Boss RC-50 to be particularly noisy? > > - With respect to multiple gear in one live rig with pedals, mixers, > compressors, drum machines, mics and too many cables all around, how have > you guys combated the noise floor that creeps in? > > Thanks for your feedback! > > http://margaretnoble.net/ > > > > > --0-1643655603-1246460901=:87810 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Thanks!
 
http://margaretnoble.net/




From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:59:10 PM
Subject: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?)

I can't comment on the RC-50 but I'm on your website and it's quite
nice.  Love the audio recordings.

Any looper can be prone to noise especially if you're micing
instruments (like your woodwinds for instance) instead of going
direct, or leaving loops in record with a high gain effect in front of
it.  Your best bet to keep your loops clean would be to put your
looper in a send channel buss of your mixer (don't skimp on your mixer
either) and use the send knobs to only feed your open loop when you
want to actually add to it from that track.

From the sound of your music the last thing you want is a gate on
anything.  Just be really mindful of open mics feeding a loop that's
in record. Also, make it part of your sound!

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:33 PM, margaret
noble<margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> I have been working on tightening my sound quality. Couple of questions:
>
> - Has anyone else noticed the Boss RC-50 to be particularly noisy?
>
> - With respect to multiple gear in one live rig with pedals, mixers,
> compressors, drum machines, mics and too many cables all around, how have
> you guys combated the noise floor that creeps in?
>
> Thanks for your feedback!
>
> http://margaretnoble.net/
>
>
>
>
>


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www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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My best regards to your family, Rose Wealth From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 17:19:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B43DC3BE85; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gtFeRMdgEDsZ3D51eYYqw9RB+KuXgtQdIDrxh1PW8aY=; b=UckeJ1zl20BjslnreknByw5aA2DH6iTcn9F4zIuEzGY2hwG29cbd/QKCNtsLain7HH t9Gk8xUD6/ka3ldknhytAQon6X24RSwCCxLhZxiTqqrmeH+zLEHHeLeW9sKQz5JgyMaw 6rbDGkHGjWdYJnZncUDLhWL1VYr3jYvtndZwE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=S5ctuGiIqSRMzpOwAIaHtk7R1usth1OWFpkFiTLN4dHf5J7UFzoNpG0FUTqPmgtAXp E04V4i9xj+X9JZ+mP7Pyx12y/6to4q6UyNrS3jyL5bDmwQSoXa91p4xpAdbu5Z4yqYJd 978i+zQJHRjC7DMKlxvwMZqkJ5hKfM+76Ojb8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:19:28 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e24589dfbea94efb Message-ID: <37f071c00907011019va1a1407ne5ce689ccf42faf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Video Projectors From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:19:29 +0000 (UTC) I think this was the projector (the price varies from week to week and around the internet, I've seen it as low as $500. http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?oid=63077321&ref=r0302DTHR6 I don't know if this is the best projector you could buy but for the price and the fact that a replacement bulb only costs about $150 as opposed to the usual $300 or so, it seems quite a deal. But if you have more cash, I'm sure you could do better (smaller, better contrast, etc.). Kevin On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > ... i think rick was talking about an epson lcd machine some weeks ago ... > > 2009/7/1, Krispen Hartung : >> What was the final verdict on the best portable video projector for the >> money, back when the group was discussing this a few months ago? >> >> Kris >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 17:27:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FD7D3BE85; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:27:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.26.131] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <37f071c00907011019va1a1407ne5ce689ccf42faf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Video Projectors Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:27:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2009 17:27:41.0102 (UTC) FILETIME=[3C8EF4E0:01C9FA71] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:27:42 +0000 (UTC) Thanks! I ended up buying the EX100...a bit more expensive, but smaller, etc. The Epsons look really good! Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:19 AM Subject: Re: Video Projectors >I think this was the projector (the price varies from week to week and > around the internet, I've seen it as low as $500. > > http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?oid=63077321&ref=r0302DTHR6 > > I don't know if this is the best projector you could buy but for the > price and the fact that a replacement bulb only costs about $150 as > opposed to the usual $300 or so, it seems quite a deal. But if you > have more cash, I'm sure you could do better (smaller, better > contrast, etc.). > > Kevin > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: >> ... i think rick was talking about an epson lcd machine some weeks ago >> ... >> >> 2009/7/1, Krispen Hartung : >>> What was the final verdict on the best portable video projector for the >>> money, back when the group was discussing this a few months ago? >>> >>> Kris >>> >> >> >> -- >> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> >> > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 > > From rosewealth82@yahoo.com Wed Jul 1 17:34:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 464 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:34:36 UTC Received: from lynchhost.com (mail.lynchhost.com [12.162.161.10]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B843BE7C; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 198.166.44.232 [198.166.44.232] by lynchhost.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-11.0) id 247a0000ea510003; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:25:12 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Rose Wealth" Subject: RE: Hello Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:25:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <200907011025438.SM59985@User> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Dear Friend, ABOUT ME The way I see it, you have two choices in life; you can be grateful for everything life has given you or you can be resentful for everything life has done to you. Focusing on what we already have and are grateful for right now is one of the most powerful things we can do to alter our life in a positive way. We can do this through losing as well as through winning, by having and by not having, by succeeding or by failing. You are always a valuable, worthwhile human being, not because anybody says so, not because you're successful, not because you make a lot of money, but because you decide to believe it and for no other reason. My name is Rose Wealth, an American Citizen residing in Madrid, Spain. I lost my entire family members in a plane crash on board the Spanair MD-82 airliner in 2008. You can go to this weblink for more details about the crash, http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/08/22/plane.crash.madrid/index.html I was the only survivor and life has never being the same for me again. To make matters worse, my Doctor recently told me, the head injuries i sustained from the plane crash has seriously damaged the left-hemisphere of my brain and caused a major damage to my spinal cord. My Doctor says, i have a few months to live after a series of surgeries and tests had been carried out. WHY I SENT YOU THIS EMAIL I seek your consent to present you as my Trustee/Foreign Investor and partner to my Bank, Lloyds TSB Bank, Madrid, Spain. So that the proceeds of my investment account ($52,000,000.00 USD, Fifty-Two Million US Dollars) can be paid to you. I have all the necessary information, guidelines and documents. You might probably think this is just another scam or scheme, but i assure you that you can only know the truth if you read carefully the content herein and act as your heart leads you. Although, i am a stranger to you and for all you know i could be just another of those Internet con-artist. However, i will implore you to respond to this e-mail with a clear conscience and a free will to get involved in this task. I will appreciate your utmost confidentiality and discreetness in this matter until the task is accomplished, as i don't want anything that will Jeopardize this transaction. Please contact me immediately for further information and explanation. I know i have never met you in person, but my intuition tells me to do this, and I hope you act sincerely. My best regards to your family, Rose Wealth From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 17:45:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B08D83BE84; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:45:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VZDCni5zoA27BTzI4UAL470f3KoEiSYsuCZKrgSftxs=; b=JcE8VY+8XNTHwryx/L5Z4genGxcPC/RkmS5VDIFnCjIKtRfquBAs5h3l0mnOuegJT3 MLzYh+YKVkCK+hWSAEaMxG2j5w3yoPxXKVeqB/rixUDXttRMkrmsiwweuL4lBEsqeXqw pzj+cwuuRQ0TXIQ6h8ulYSXW0DVli6TXEPlmk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hkl5S67fZFHskq/zJRUiRqqNVTkhmopX68mdeI6iu7cqUKRuUj0gCUfRi4UR+O4XQ3 8kgvDvwU759tGaLLgKagh4wXryoubmbjNNg/YJMbvFMSsH0GxMD9/kFIrLngsqIGgdKj tJbAbwQA/jShUHExoL5o9jXwCz8LQbiZXQFYc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A4B2C06.3070002@tiscali.co.uk> References: <142673.46270.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A4B2C06.3070002@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:45:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:45:13 +0000 (UTC) Would it make that much of a difference when most guitar speaker cabs roll off significantly after 7 or 8 khz or so? Most of my tones end up being pretty band limited anyway to fit better in the overall mix. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:27 AM, andy butler wrote: > Mark Sottilaro wrote: > >> I'd be super >> curious to put the Axe-FX against the IK stuff and see what's what. >> >> >> > > The Axe-fx runs at a very high sample rate (afaik). > I wouldn't be at all surprised if it had a real > advantage for distorted sounds. > > > > andy > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 17:52:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3C103BE82; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" X-Originating-IP: 66.188.15.197 User-Agent: Web-Based Email 4.14.32 Message-Id: <20090701105251.cf1bf4dd1663421b591f059a487399bd.5d65d24fc2.wbe@email01.secureserver.net> From: mark@grubmah.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: MY NEW TOY Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:52:51 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <57a3tD.A.DXH.0J6SKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:52:52 +0000 (UTC)
Higher sampling rates should do a better job of capturing phase i= nformation. I haven't done the listening tests to confirm that this matters= , but that would be one reason why they could make a difference.
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Mark
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY
From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, July 01, 2009 10:45 am
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Would it make that much of a difference when most guitar speaker cabs
roll off significantly after 7 or 8 khz or so? Most of my tones end
up being pretty band limited anyway to fit better in the overall mix.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:27 AM, andy butler<akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> w= rote:
> Mark Sottilaro wrote:
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>> I'd be super
>> curious to put the Axe-FX against the IK stuff and see what's what= .
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> The Axe-fx runs at a very high sample rate (afaik).
> I wouldn't be at all surprised if it had a real
> advantage for distorted sounds.
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> andy
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>

 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 18:06:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F37423BE80; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:06:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 220414701/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.178.169/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.178.169 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsoBAN9CS0pPTrKp/2dsb2JhbAAI0SGEEQWJIw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,326,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="220414701" Message-ID: <4A4BA902.3050301@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:20:50 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY References: <142673.46270.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A4B2C06.3070002@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:06:48 +0000 (UTC) Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Would it make that much of a difference when most guitar speaker cabs > roll off significantly after 7 or 8 khz or so? Most of my tones end > up being pretty band limited anyway to fit better in the overall mix. Yep, it would ( or rather it *could*) The digital artefacts produced by distortion algorithms (aliasing) can appear throughout the frequency range, kind of like ring modulation. At 44.1kHz it's necessary for software to oversample at least 8x before running a distortion algorithm. ...and oversampling itself is a compromise between quality and latency. *However*, while I was somehow convinced the the Axe-fx had this ultra high sample rate, a check on the website reveals it to be 48kHz, ....which won't make much difference. duh andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 18:54:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6F413BE80; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A4BAD5E.2090205@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:39:26 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ubuntu based rig References: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110906302009w48538744t49073801b0197270@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <339c30110906302009w48538744t49073801b0197270@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:54:06 +0000 (UTC) michael noble wrote: > I've tried ubuntustudio, 64studio, puredyne, studiotogo, angnula, > Fedora/CCRMA. There are other promising distros emerging to tempt me (or > meta-distros like Gentoo pro audio overlay) but I now use openSUSE as my > primary studio platform. I have three machines running this way, each > with multiple instances of sooperlooper as needed, along with various > other applications. I'm a little snowed under at work at moment, but if > I can offer any tips I'll be happy to. Weekends are always better. And > when I get around to updating my website I'll be putting more details of > my setup up there. > > regards > > Michael N Interesting news. With 14+ years on Linux, I tried using it for audio long ago, and have since occationally tried a few things, only to quickly retract again. I fairly often dive into the soundonsound.com Linux forum to see what's happening, and get the impression people are still having the well-known issue that some audio application dies, sometime ending up as a zombi process which can't easily be cleared (wait it out or reboot). This app death often takes jack, the audio routing protocol, down, after which jack doesn't restart as intended, but has to restarted from the command line. It's true that some VST things can be run through the wine or crossover windows app emulators, but it's my impression it can be a hit and miss, and require some time for editing profiles to make the integration work. Alsa, the basic audio stuff is often said to require some setup, and is reputed to have a slowish development. Other audio subsystems exists. To be fair to Linux as an audio platform, I'm reverse biased and don't follow it close enough, so take my comments with a grain of salt.. Some useful ressources: http://www.linuxaudio.org/ http://www.linuxaudio.org/resources For supported (semi)pro audio hardware, I used to check something akin to linuxaudiodevices.something, but can't find or remember it anylonger. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 19:33:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 892733BE82; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:33:16 EDT Subject: ot.....mac question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c6c.4f6987e0.377d13fc_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.137 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:33:22 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c6c.4f6987e0.377d13fc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i can not view videos anymore and my puter keeps telling me to dl flash player 9 because my osx is 10.3.9.....when i do this and try to open flash player i get this message "the destination folder (adobe flash player 9) is on a locked volume. Please select another destination.".....can anyone help me?.....off list of course.....thanks.....m "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** It's raining cats and dogs -- Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule! (http://www.pawnation.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000008) --part1_c6c.4f6987e0.377d13fc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i can not view videos anymore and= my puter keeps telling me to dl flash player 9 because my osx is 10.3.9..= ...when i do this and try to open flash player i get this message "the des= tination folder (adobe flash player 9) is on a locked volume. Please selec= t another destination.".....can anyone help me?.....off list of course....= .thanks.....m



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My best regards to your family, Rose Wealth From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 20:40:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46C8C3BE82; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:40:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1759 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:40:51 UTC X-Eon-Dm: dm52 X-Eon-Sig: AQMLXdxKS8DnG6N01wIAAAAB,5925e603ba659bef3f2915404451e551 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--263569018 From: Richard Roberts Subject: Subject: OT : autoharp and other instruments Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:11:26 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:40:52 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--263569018 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed They're not manufacturers, but Lark In The Morning carries the instruments you mention plus many others: www.larkinam.com Richard Roberts ZERO OHMS "We are no longer the same after hearing certain sounds, and this is more the case when we hear organized sounds, sounds organized by another human being: music." - Karlheinz Stockhausen "If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC." - Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. New Zero Ohms CD w/ Craig Padilla & Skip Murphy 'Beyond the Portal': http://www.lotuspike.com/shop/product_info.php? cPath=26_23&products_id=69 From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" Date: July 1, 2009 11:28:52 AM CDT To: Subject: OT : autoharp and other instruments Hi to all, I have started recording a new indie-pop record and for this production I would need some new instruments which i can manipulate with live electronics. At this moment, I am interested in autoharp, dulcimer, jarana jarocha, banjo. charango. Do you know any good manufacturer of these instruments? Thanks a lot and best. Erdem Helvacioglu --Apple-Mail-2--263569018 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 They're not=A0manufacturers, but = Lark In The Morning carries the instruments you mention plus many = others:
www.larkinam.com

Richard = Roberts
ZERO OHMS

"We are no longer the same after hearing = certain sounds, and this is more the case when we hear organized sounds, = sounds organized by another human being: = music."=A0=A0
- Karlheinz = Stockhausen

"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:=A0THE= ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED=A0FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD=A0WAS = MUSIC."

- Kurt=A0Vonnegut, = Jr.=A0


New Zero Ohms CD w/ Craig Padilla & Skip Murphy=A0 'Beyond = the Portal':=A0=A0http://www.lotuspike.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=3D26_23&= amp;products_id=3D69




From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" <erdemhel@tnn.net>
Date: July 1, 2009 11:28:52 AM CDT
Subject: OT : = autoharp and other instruments

Hi to all,

=A0

I have started recording a new = indie-pop record and for this production I would need some new = instruments which i can manipulate with live electronics. At this = moment, I am interested in autoharp, dulcimer, jarana jarocha, banjo. = charango. Do you know any good manufacturer of these = instruments?

=A0

Thanks a lot and best.

=A0

Erdem = Helvacioglu
= --Apple-Mail-2--263569018-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 20:44:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 305883BE80; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=u+9CpEuhHnihhXJMZ/YjF5K695KsfkzRWt0jWojRhBCZyxH3FwB+ReyhxLqI+qfiokwzG42YN+SkS1rTozogXI/C87SC11iSKY/a1br9rsTGG5fHAI8GZ0DVijIVRB72sd/iSrP2vN9rXDYXN5Gvu5zTol1R6CHc7FdA5/4rNjM= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: K6vbPEAVM1nv8QhIWQceCRoBCzjv8M3b4TONgHnFRKqPtgq35JcrCXdKRo6Fq4vTbeiKLMgZ4cG2KNRKDUW1D6vmdFAX7gGUJtQXB6oS_Vsvu.SLuvmIVJ9XoKs.EijCxCaEU7r.WsS2RESXrLTgLw.NknbT44RoEj2WVwjgLCMK.JIWFD9SGZzYQs6lqsOwvtL8rEq7abPLdRrfjs8mcuhCrbX65sHbakEaeFPp6zJ739RlvfUU0LNtyufIs3PyhsoIoYG5Fc5jdj5vgB98P0kNVIfrCq0kpW6wC_ecOefjQ4N4mvBPUjGp33GcnVplTFBO4bvAmZFUHSyK6nIU X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--261595398 Message-Id: <6987CB4A-3DBC-4005-9234-57A0DE686CCE@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Bit OT Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:44:20 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:44:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--261595398 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Alan Moore interviews brian eno http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00lgkzc/ Chain_Reaction_Series_1_Alan_Moore_Interviews_Brian_Eno/ V interesting Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-1--261595398 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Alan Moore interviews brian eno


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--Apple-Mail-1--261595398-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 22:06:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6BF43BE81; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:06:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1560 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:06:24 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yLWddEGx9j5XFUbTGgnOBRw1m7TQo7oxK1IUF5S+q/c=; b=aQkpl2X5pgkZ5etzp8l0nEFhNHjoJPAHFsb+IlfiVJEGXV2pVBvZ5blyYQolpoluCg xbmFcNr3yfQL18JhomPlfqu/1aZwgkNmmKXj+/FQQ8Uu0ChQs4SQ6KVXu9NpQrQ8CQ+X HYcWiR1p1DO3QlwpEI15P6Dw8CB0XAAhn09xc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lvWLeeoqAl1DIYC+uG4LENCtXxxKL3JEzNa3gjmkgCOF0k+CpeDEou80oivVGqHU2A VyZ/+/JzXxRVQk/5XhLoyDaeWgn5GAm3vp9jlJi+vNrYCB6AccYJsEb0GHa3xdz9zx+O 9xQDbaEo7me3li0MyVnGuoqG1KjIEkNzJSc00= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <692802.99780.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> <692802.99780.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:40:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:06:24 +0000 (UTC) margaret noble was all: > - With respect to multiple gear in one live rig with pedals, mixers, > compressors, drum machines, mics and too many cables all around, how have > you guys combated the noise floor that creeps in? For me, it's a matter of: 1) Figuring out which is the guilty element, and deciding whether you really need to keep it. 2) Attempting to send a louder signal through the train, with fine adjustments on all the volume/trim controls on each step of the chain to make sure it doesn't clip. (Is that what Andy calls "gain staging"?) This year I had to take a newly purchased Kaoss Pad KP3 out of my chain, because it was bad in both regards. It was responsible for about 80% of my noise floor, and it clipped at very low gain levels. I haven't had trouble with cheap cables yet, except when they stop working unexpectedly. Then it's a whole world of trouble. For the cables. Make sure any AC adapters you use match the polarity and power input shown on the pedals. I've also heard people recommend things like making sure you're not plugging into the the same electrical circuit that powers any florescent lights, refrigerators or things of that nature. Haven't investigated. Folks have suggested getting some of those little grey adapters that turn a 3 prong power into 2 prongs (no ground). Haven't tested sufficiently. I did buy 2 different "noise eliminators", and found that both made no detectable difference. Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 22:11:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBDE63BE78; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Sfy/7vlKaOG4iEK5s1oHNTXwoOWgjbAow8QDWDcNADM=; b=fa/jw5PMd+H0QfPItmVhZAuY5OigSQ3t7njSalsrDok1HpVYPNe75dGcgpft4w1dfu fyWWtsWdk3Tmsg8otNQxWxmx2gsnb8q5YVRjse8CbXrl638dCDcHagSeWFYTdqDKUKnU 3FYVlBDOleHZGNCDYat2xdXD/eyvuWl1BUs3k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JR00kqRAExgkVJqZ0nmFLglfzvtzffYkaL9UPx9/i3kFEvVCTWRO79kn2y9a+eHGul pcyJtUXr0j5VdTWyaa5aFaiFYHQAXJbjLnQ3roTxgIFXeyRyGDAuqnRQ2YVKG0hBS4UA 7u45AT30FUMUyavw/ofQ3JhFWI+Z0m2msDWlk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A4BAD5E.2090205@post.cybercity.dk> References: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110906302009w48538744t49073801b0197270@mail.gmail.com> <4A4BAD5E.2090205@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:11:31 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ubuntu based rig From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:11:34 +0000 (UTC) these guys at trinity audio group are selling an atom based netbook running transmission 3.0 plus energy XT + ArdourXchange. also some plugin, samples, etc ... libraries onboard. around 500$-600$. http://www.trinityaudiogroup.com/ 2009/7/1, van Sinn : > michael noble wrote: >> I've tried ubuntustudio, 64studio, puredyne, studiotogo, angnula, >> Fedora/CCRMA. There are other promising distros emerging to tempt me (or >> meta-distros like Gentoo pro audio overlay) but I now use openSUSE as my >> primary studio platform. I have three machines running this way, each >> with multiple instances of sooperlooper as needed, along with various >> other applications. I'm a little snowed under at work at moment, but if >> I can offer any tips I'll be happy to. Weekends are always better. And >> when I get around to updating my website I'll be putting more details of >> my setup up there. >> >> regards >> >> Michael N > > > Interesting news. > With 14+ years on Linux, I tried using it for audio long ago, and have > since occationally tried a few things, only to quickly retract again. > I fairly often dive into the soundonsound.com Linux forum to see what's > happening, and get the impression people are still having the well-known > issue that some audio application dies, sometime ending up as a zombi > process which can't easily be cleared (wait it out or reboot). > This app death often takes jack, the audio routing protocol, down, after > which jack doesn't restart as intended, but has to restarted from the > command line. > > It's true that some VST things can be run through the wine or crossover > windows app emulators, but it's my impression it can be a hit and miss, > and require some time for editing profiles to make the integration work. > > Alsa, the basic audio stuff is often said to require some setup, and is > reputed to have a slowish development. Other audio subsystems exists. > > To be fair to Linux as an audio platform, I'm reverse biased and don't > follow it close enough, so take my comments with a grain of salt.. > > Some useful ressources: > http://www.linuxaudio.org/ > http://www.linuxaudio.org/resources > > For supported (semi)pro audio hardware, I used to check something akin > to linuxaudiodevices.something, but can't find or remember it anylonger. > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 22:32:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C74F03BE7F; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AsJCBqfcI+P6XFsulG61mkuRm/5Jk4lnqrJ6m3pacTc=; b=Aqxk3V8stcVdtKhYcbgaxQGM6oAHutVcc4jKYCoBQHbc66PkfTFrd8zKiqBXHYQrWD NjJvAHzHF2XwKXZ4n+qDBiU+SHcOn+GlXY2U/3KjgI6lnAQasZFAn8UdKw/Q5R+ViCKf T8u+YNXIy06QdLKJzUA3FsnEyEnAbMKZmFs6g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=xqJdLiqx/3BgmluogWEKX2h+YW/10uT1IcnRfOC/6ctome/oZfSEyaUMauFK1AyjqJ FJU6d79p/DWdV7OQsb+0xkkVNds+l7yU8uTX/3WjgD3mBApHzlzzcgPLygqyEcqevr5u T/VGC4RYl8H/TT0BJn7iBnTzjg4Wl1/O7EE40= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:32:20 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907011532i735cd16cr5bcda14efb843a70@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-hENpB.A.GOC.1P-SKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:32:21 +0000 (UTC) > - With respect to multiple gear in one live rig with pedals, mixers, > compressors, drum machines, mics and too many cables all around, how > have you guys combated the noise floor that creeps in? Noise creeps in from different sources, they mainly being: a) components in the chain which generate noise on your signal lines b) components in the chain which pick up noise from elsewhere (aka EMI) With that come some suggestions in unordered fashion: 1. "that what Andy calls gain staging" Generally, noise (of type a) in a device is something independent of the level of your input signal. However, what we usually find annoying is not the amount of that noise floor, but more the signal to noise ratio (SNR - where big means good). We can increase that ratio either by reducing the noise floor (which may not be possible) or by increasing the signal level. Practically, make sure that your full-level signal makes full use of the headroom for every device in your chain by adjusting the input level properly. 2. MIDI MIDI istelf, of course, has nothing to do with your audio signal. However, MIDI cabling can in a lot of cases generate ground loops. There is a simple workaround: remove the shield on one end of your MIDI cable. The signal transmission remains intact, but the hum (which runs over the shield) can be cured. Should not be used for overtly long MIDI lines, and it also makes sense to use MIDI cabling to spec (i.e. twisted pair) 3. dynamic effects This somehow relates to (1) above. Turn of the output when you don't have any input signal (i.e. use a gate), and use compressors/limiters in front of critical devices to increase the signal level you can hit the device with and thus the SNR. 4. noise and EQs The most disturbing noise is usually in the region around 7kHz (+/-). The reason: there's not a high level of wanted signal to mask the noise, thermal noise (aka the thing we usually have in electronics as the dominant noise source) is very strong here, and the sensitivity of the human ear is still very high in that range. So if you have the need for an EQ in your signal chain where you boost that frequency range specifically, put it way in front of the signal chain, so noise generated by the following devices will not be amplified further. Conversely, if you need to attenuate that range, put the EQ as far to the end of the chain. (nb: effects can be swapped freely in case of linear time invariant devices or linear time variant devices in combination with devices which "don't do time stuff themselves", like delays. So you can put an EQ either before or after a delay or modulated delay without any change, but not before or after a distortion (because that not being linear). 5. signal chain vs. signal array Use a mixer, and mute all unused channels. Avoid chained effects wherever possible. 6. reduce air-bound EMI keep audio lines away from transformers (especiallly the cheap transformers). use symmetrical wiring wherever possible. 7. digital domain If not avoiding this domain completely, stay in the digital domain as long as possible. Best yet, use a computer in combination with some decent A/D/A. Best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 22:45:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 104D73BE84; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:45:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6d6bc9f5-ec41-4f26-bee0-58769a920096_" X-Originating-IP: [207.119.202.51] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:45:55 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907011532i735cd16cr5bcda14efb843a70@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907011532i735cd16cr5bcda14efb843a70@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2009 22:45:55.0971 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1FCBD30:01C9FA9D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:45:56 +0000 (UTC) --_6d6bc9f5-ec41-4f26-bee0-58769a920096_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable awesome post on noise troubleshooting...especially where to put the EQ in t= he signal chain- i found the blurb about midi hard to believe so i googled....its news to me= but yes a midi cable can cause a ground buzz in certain sitations....heres= a SOS posting going into a little more detail: ADAT and S/PDIF optical both use fibre-optic cables=2C giving true galvanic isolation=2C just like a transformer=2C so they can never result in ground loops. MIDI inputs also incorporate opto-isolators=2C so plugging in a MIDI cable should never result in a ground loop. A few MIDI In ports (mostly on budget PC joystick/MIDI adaptors) may omit this circuitry=2C to save a few pennies=2C but the most common cause of MIDI ground loops is using an incorrectly wired cable. Avoid five-pin DIN hi-fi cables and use proper MIDI cables=2C which use only pins four and five for data transfer=2C and connect the cable screen to pin two only at each end of the cable=2C but not to the metal shell of the plugs themselves. If a multimeter shows zero resistance between the metal shell of the plugs at each end of a MIDI cable=2C discard it. > Date: Thu=2C 2 Jul 2009 00:32:20 +0200 > Subject: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in liv= e rigs?) > From: moinsound@googlemail.com > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > > - With respect to multiple gear in one live rig with pedals=2C mixers= =2C > > compressors=2C drum machines=2C mics and too many cables all around=2C = how > > have you guys combated the noise floor that creeps in? >=20 > Noise creeps in from different sources=2C they mainly being: > a) components in the chain which generate noise on your signal lines > b) components in the chain which pick up noise from elsewhere (aka EMI) >=20 > With that come some suggestions in unordered fashion: >=20 > 1. "that what Andy calls gain staging" > Generally=2C noise (of type a) in a device is something independent of > the level of your input signal. However=2C what we usually find annoying > is not the amount of that noise floor=2C but more the signal to noise > ratio (SNR - where big means good). We can increase that ratio either > by reducing the noise floor (which may not be possible) or by > increasing the signal level. > Practically=2C make sure that your full-level signal makes full use of > the headroom for every device in your chain by adjusting the input > level properly. >=20 > 2. MIDI > MIDI istelf=2C of course=2C has nothing to do with your audio signal. > However=2C MIDI cabling can in a lot of cases generate ground loops. > There is a simple workaround: remove the shield on one end of your > MIDI cable. The signal transmission remains intact=2C but the hum (which > runs over the shield) can be cured. > Should not be used for overtly long MIDI lines=2C and it also makes > sense to use MIDI cabling to spec (i.e. twisted pair) >=20 > 3. dynamic effects > This somehow relates to (1) above. Turn of the output when you don't > have any input signal (i.e. use a gate)=2C and use compressors/limiters > in front of critical devices to increase the signal level you can hit > the device with and thus the SNR. >=20 > 4. noise and EQs > The most disturbing noise is usually in the region around 7kHz (+/-). > The reason: there's not a high level of wanted signal to mask the > noise=2C thermal noise (aka the thing we usually have in electronics as > the dominant noise source) is very strong here=2C and the sensitivity of > the human ear is still very high in that range. > So if you have the need for an EQ in your signal chain where you boost > that frequency range specifically=2C put it way in front of the signal > chain=2C so noise generated by the following devices will not be > amplified further. Conversely=2C if you need to attenuate that range=2C > put the EQ as far to the end of the chain. > (nb: effects can be swapped freely in case of linear time invariant > devices or linear time variant devices in combination with devices > which "don't do time stuff themselves"=2C like delays. So you can put an > EQ either before or after a delay or modulated delay without any > change=2C but not before or after a distortion (because that not being > linear). >=20 > 5. signal chain vs. signal array > Use a mixer=2C and mute all unused channels. Avoid chained effects > wherever possible. >=20 > 6. reduce air-bound EMI > keep audio lines away from transformers (especiallly the cheap > transformers). use symmetrical wiring wherever possible. >=20 > 7. digital domain > If not avoiding this domain completely=2C stay in the digital domain as > long as possible. Best yet=2C use a computer in combination with some > decent A/D/A. >=20 > Best=2C >=20 > Rainer >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 SkyDrive=99: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009= --_6d6bc9f5-ec41-4f26-bee0-58769a920096_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable awesome post on noise troubleshooting...especially where to put the EQ in t= he signal chain-

i found the blurb about midi hard to believe so i g= oogled....its news to me but yes a midi cable can cause a ground buzz in ce= rtain sitations....heres a SOS posting going into a little more detail:
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ADAT and S/PDIF optical both use fibre-optic cables=2C giving true galvanic isolation=2C just like a transformer=2C so they can never result in ground loops. MIDI inputs also incorporate opto-isolators=2C so plugging in a MIDI cable should never result in a ground loop. A few MIDI In ports (mostly on budget PC joystick/MIDI adaptors) may omit this circuitry=2C to save a few pennies=2C but the most common cause of MIDI ground loops is using an incorrectly wired cable. Avoid five-pin DIN hi-fi cables and use proper MIDI cables=2C which use only pins four and five for data transfer=2C and connect the cable screen to pin two only at each end of the cable=2C but not to the metal shell of the plugs themselves. If a multimeter shows zero resistance between the metal shell of the plugs at each end of a MIDI cable=2C discard it.





>=3B Date: Thu=2C 2 Jul 2009 00:32:20 +0200
>=3B Subje= ct: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs= ?)
>=3B From: moinsound@googlemail.com
>=3B To: loopers-delight@l= oopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B >=3B - With respect to multiple g= ear in one live rig with pedals=2C mixers=2C
>=3B >=3B compressors= =2C drum machines=2C mics and too many cables all around=2C how
>=3B &= gt=3B have you guys combated the noise floor that creeps in?
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= >=3B Noise creeps in from different sources=2C they mainly being:
>= =3B a) components in the chain which generate noise on your signal lines>=3B b) components in the chain which pick up noise from elsewhere (aka = EMI)
>=3B
>=3B With that come some suggestions in unordered fash= ion:
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>=3B 1. "that what Andy calls gain staging"
>=3B = Generally=2C noise (of type a) in a device is something independent of
&= gt=3B the level of your input signal. However=2C what we usually find annoy= ing
>=3B is not the amount of that noise floor=2C but more the signal = to noise
>=3B ratio (SNR - where big means good). We can increase that= ratio either
>=3B by reducing the noise floor (which may not be possi= ble) or by
>=3B increasing the signal level.
>=3B Practically=2C = make sure that your full-level signal makes full use of
>=3B the headr= oom for every device in your chain by adjusting the input
>=3B level p= roperly.
>=3B
>=3B 2. MIDI
>=3B MIDI istelf=2C of course=2C= has nothing to do with your audio signal.
>=3B However=2C MIDI cablin= g can in a lot of cases generate ground loops.
>=3B There is a simple = workaround: remove the shield on one end of your
>=3B MIDI cable. The = signal transmission remains intact=2C but the hum (which
>=3B runs ove= r the shield) can be cured.
>=3B Should not be used for overtly long M= IDI lines=2C and it also makes
>=3B sense to use MIDI cabling to spec = (i.e. twisted pair)
>=3B
>=3B 3. dynamic effects
>=3B This = somehow relates to (1) above. Turn of the output when you don't
>=3B h= ave any input signal (i.e. use a gate)=2C and use compressors/limiters
&= gt=3B in front of critical devices to increase the signal level you can hit=
>=3B the device with and thus the SNR.
>=3B
>=3B 4. noise = and EQs
>=3B The most disturbing noise is usually in the region around= 7kHz (+/-).
>=3B The reason: there's not a high level of wanted signa= l to mask the
>=3B noise=2C thermal noise (aka the thing we usually ha= ve in electronics as
>=3B the dominant noise source) is very strong he= re=2C and the sensitivity of
>=3B the human ear is still very high in = that range.
>=3B So if you have the need for an EQ in your signal chai= n where you boost
>=3B that frequency range specifically=2C put it way= in front of the signal
>=3B chain=2C so noise generated by the follow= ing devices will not be
>=3B amplified further. Conversely=2C if you n= eed to attenuate that range=2C
>=3B put the EQ as far to the end of th= e chain.
>=3B (nb: effects can be swapped freely in case of linear tim= e invariant
>=3B devices or linear time variant devices in combination= with devices
>=3B which "don't do time stuff themselves"=2C like dela= ys. So you can put an
>=3B EQ either before or after a delay or modula= ted delay without any
>=3B change=2C but not before or after a distort= ion (because that not being
>=3B linear).
>=3B
>=3B 5. sign= al chain vs. signal array
>=3B Use a mixer=2C and mute all unused chan= nels. Avoid chained effects
>=3B wherever possible.
>=3B
>= =3B 6. reduce air-bound EMI
>=3B keep audio lines away from transforme= rs (especiallly the cheap
>=3B transformers). use symmetrical wiring w= herever possible.
>=3B
>=3B 7. digital domain
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>=3B
>=3B Best=2C
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Windows Live=99 SkyDrive=99: Get 25= GB of free online storage. Get it on your Bla= ckBerry or iPhone. = --_6d6bc9f5-ec41-4f26-bee0-58769a920096_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 1 23:04:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37EB33BE84; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KMEEwdyDidElg+TfVA7RVMLjV6wnmK34JmlwaCjeRe8=; b=jeMOYnYRnl9Gp9JTYP9/gFjiNghtATZ/mJQUJEL2M37XQhgLCggVHTL+mjMEMs7tGe bDi9WI9RoMObyxE3uAiiZkMGB/+BmF9sHNtVmz8E3TYeM1kLBr3WA5legGKMaiDHIu9m fuNPzQSr/t8A0aFKJdmEFkjxhEjOPYx6VpeS0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RikiHYTtTprx05Fxn+bzRK1E1KZ+K7oQ+Oqn+oSD/FIy/bSll1IIjbxcSxmTiKPklG wDxez+viREcLOLZVZiFdRP5pxih8PP5wgsJR61Sc2hL9hRUFN1VUBfvX/JW7Gzq1cBRA QTj8Jjgn1mzO4M/53a2BdDZ7YK6GCjgZ1qdtg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A4BAD5E.2090205@post.cybercity.dk> References: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110906302009w48538744t49073801b0197270@mail.gmail.com> <4A4BAD5E.2090205@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:04:27 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110907011604taf8c773lf7ae18ecc8d75b2a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ubuntu based rig From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64652fa2298ec046dacf208 Resent-Message-ID: <7Nt5gB.A.s2D.Au-SKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:04:33 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64652fa2298ec046dacf208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I could say I've had the same experience with zombi processes in windows, though to be fair it is mostly my penchant for trying experimental software that is to be blamed, and not the system itself. I've seen talk of zombi processes over the years, but then it's never been a serious problem for me - either an app works, in which case I use it, or it doesn't, in which case I don't. It just so happens that most of the apps I want to use work, which is good for me I guess. Even if an app I am trying has issues, I've very rarely had a situation where it can't be killed with a ctrl-alt-esc under kde, or by running a process manager under root. To the other issues - I never run Jack from the command line, just too lazy, and if I stick to my working config and don't try new bleeding edge software then Jack is very well behaved. I find jackmp especially so as it shares processing evenly over multiple processors. I haven't had to even look at an ALSA config file in several years unless I want to do something exotic like merge multiple soundcards to appear as a single virtual device. I took the time to hardware that fit the software, and find software that meets my needs, so I have a system that works for me. Again for wine, there is some configuration to have it setup for windows apps. But I think it is a myth to state that there is some operating system out there that is configured for audio performance out of the box, (except maybe OSX). I know when I used windows I spent a long time tweaking this and that to get the system to run efficiently - but once it is setup and you have a working system, and so long as you resist temptation to tinker further, then it just keeps working. All that being said, I am forward biased, and I spend most of my time learning about and trying new things in linux audio. I will say that with linux, as with anything else, you get what you pay for. If you see free software and think great its free, then you have to expect a catch. The move from any platform to another costs time, and the setup of a stable and reliable system likewise. So for some, something like Transmission, which Raul pointed out, will be a good solution as it provides the configuration and support necessary to make the jump a little easier. Anyway, all this has only tangental relation to looping, so I'll leave it there for now. -Michael > > Interesting news. > With 14+ years on Linux, I tried using it for audio long ago, and have > since occationally tried a few things, only to quickly retract again. > I fairly often dive into the soundonsound.com Linux forum to see what's > happening, and get the impression people are still having the well-known > issue that some audio application dies, sometime ending up as a zombi > process which can't easily be cleared (wait it out or reboot). > This app death often takes jack, the audio routing protocol, down, after > which jack doesn't restart as intended, but has to restarted from the > command line. > > It's true that some VST things can be run through the wine or crossover > windows app emulators, but it's my impression it can be a hit and miss, and > require some time for editing profiles to make the integration work. > > Alsa, the basic audio stuff is often said to require some setup, and is > reputed to have a slowish development. Other audio subsystems exists. > > To be fair to Linux as an audio platform, I'm reverse biased and don't > follow it close enough, so take my comments with a grain of salt.. > > Some useful ressources: > http://www.linuxaudio.org/ > http://www.linuxaudio.org/resources > > For supported (semi)pro audio hardware, I used to check something akin to > linuxaudiodevices.something, but can't find or remember it anylonger. > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > --0016e64652fa2298ec046dacf208 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I could say I've had the same experienc= e with zombi processes in windows, though to be fair it is mostly my pencha= nt for trying experimental software that is to be blamed, and not the syste= m itself. I've seen talk of zombi processes over the years, but then it= 's never been a serious problem for me - either an app works, in which = case I use it, or it doesn't, in which case I don't. It just so hap= pens that most of the apps I want to use work, which is good for me I guess= . Even if an app I am trying has issues, I've very rarely had a situati= on where it can't be killed with a ctrl-alt-esc under kde, or by runnin= g a process manager under root.

To the other issues - I never run Jack from the command line, just too = lazy, and if I stick to my working config and don't try new bleeding ed= ge software then Jack is very well behaved. I find jackmp especially so as = it shares processing evenly over multiple processors.

I haven't had to even look at an ALSA config file in several years = unless I want to do something exotic like merge multiple soundcards to appe= ar as a single virtual device. I took the time to hardware that fit the sof= tware, and find software that meets my needs, so I have a system that works= for me.

Again for wine, there is some configuration to have it setup for window= s apps. But I think it is a myth to state that there is some operating syst= em out there that is configured for audio performance out of the box, (exce= pt maybe OSX). I know when I used windows I spent a long time tweaking this= and that to get the system to run efficiently - but once it is setup and y= ou have a working system, and so long as you resist temptation to tinker fu= rther, then it just keeps working.

All that being said, I am forward biased, and I spend most of my time l= earning about and trying new things in linux audio. I will say that with li= nux, as with anything else, you get what you pay for. If you see free softw= are and think great its free, then you have to expect a catch. The move fro= m any platform to another costs time, and the setup of a stable and reliabl= e system likewise.

So for some, something like Transmission, which Raul pointed out, will = be a good solution as it provides the configuration and support necessary t= o make the jump a little easier.

Anyway, all this has only tangenta= l relation to looping, so I'll leave it there for now.

-Michael


=A0

Interesting news.
With 14+ years on Linux, I tried using it for audio long ago, and have sinc= e occationally tried a few things, only to quickly retract again.
I fairly often dive into the soundonsound.com Linux forum to see what's happening, and g= et the impression people are still having the well-known issue that some au= dio application dies, sometime ending up as a zombi process which can't= easily be cleared (wait it out or reboot).
This app death often takes jack, the audio routing protocol, down, after wh= ich jack doesn't restart as intended, but has to restarted from the com= mand line.

It's true that some VST things can be run through the wine or crossover= windows app emulators, but it's my impression it can be a hit and miss= , and require some time for editing profiles to make the integration work.<= br>
Alsa, the basic audio stuff is often said to require some setup, and is rep= uted to have a slowish development. Other audio subsystems exists.

To be fair to Linux as an audio platform, I'm reverse biased and don= 9;t follow it close enough, so take my comments with a grain of salt..

Some useful ressources:
http://www.linuxau= dio.org/
http://ww= w.linuxaudio.org/resources

For supported (semi)pro audio hardware, I used to check something akin to l= inuxaudiodevices.something, but can't find or remember it anylonger.
--
rgds,
van Sinn



--0016e64652fa2298ec046dacf208-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 02:06:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FC003BE7E; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 02:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1253 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:06:41 UTC Message-Id: <0ACBF6E6-5F5B-4327-8226-3BBEB5D98B85@theclaypools.com> From: Loren Claypool To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <606129.87810.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--243515758 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:45:40 -0500 References: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> <692802.99780.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <606129.87810.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 02:06:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--243515758 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Margaret, I used the RC-50 significantly on my last release without noise issues. I was very conscious about using the bare minimum gear required for a track in the signal path and not boosting either the input or output volume on the RC-50. Good results. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:33 PM, margaret noble wrote: > Hello List, > > I have been working on tightening my sound quality. Couple of questions: > > - Has anyone else noticed the Boss RC-50 to be particularly noisy? > > - With respect to multiple gear in one live rig with pedals, mixers, > compressors, drum machines, mics and too many cables all around, how have > you guys combated the noise floor that creeps in? > > Thanks for your feedback! > > http://margaretnoble.net/ > All the best, Loren Claypool genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there --Apple-Mail-5--243515758 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Margaret,

I used the RC-50 significantly on my last = release without noise issues. I was very conscious about using the bare = minimum gear required for a track in the signal path and not boosting = either the input or output volume on the RC-50. Good results.


All the = best,

Loren = Claypool
genre-indifferent instrumental guitar = music
www.lorenclaypool.com and = links from there



= --Apple-Mail-5--243515758-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 05:28:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38FD73BE77; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 05:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'andy butler'" , References: <4A487167.2020305@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: RE: MY NEW TOY Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:28:41 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4A487167.2020305@tiscali.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acn6xlDHRnKPv9RPS5q8ACw/vHhhTwACRs6Q Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 05:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Bingo! Andy makes a good point, if you used just one amp simulator, say something like a sans amp, and you place it before the M-13 or some where near the start of the chain using the M-13's effects loop. You could achieve the missing link you are looking for without sacrificing the beloved stereo imaging of the effects. I haven't checked my computer in a week which is why I'm coming to this conversation so late. I've been in West Virginia, of all places, visiting relatives of relatives. I brought my 22' scale lap steel and borrowed Rick's Vox DA-5 and took a line 6 dl-4 to keep myself amused. Actually, if you think about it, A DA-5 could make a pretty cool first stage as it has a line/phone out that you could feed the M-13 in either mono or stereo. If you don't have an issue with the "feel" of modeling amps, I'd give either solution a try. Bill tEd R KiLLiAn wrote: > Yeah, it's really too bad that there's no also a single-device solution > for a stereo amp simulator to go along with this device. > Well, I obviuosly you know best what you need to achieve...but... Rather than put two amp sims after the fx, surely it would be neater to put one amp sim between guitar and fx. That gives you more options for combining sounds, and doesn't mush up the layers together. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 07:58:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AE163BE81; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 07:58:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <882C0DC1-3963-4435-BA96-8600FFC45AF2@gmail.com> Subject: RE: 2 dreams, a poem and a swap Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:58:21 +0200 Message-ID: <007001c9faea$dee52420$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0071_01C9FAFB.A26DF420" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <882C0DC1-3963-4435-BA96-8600FFC45AF2@gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acn62LONzzebluFHSZaeaJlx+WxZeQAEgCBQ X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.199; VDF: 7.1.4.163) Resent-Message-ID: <6iNi2.A.y-H.viGTKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 07:58:39 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C9FAFB.A26DF420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Some recent experiments in short minimalist lo-fi video very interesting ideas, very charming little videos -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C9FAFB.A26DF420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Some recent experiments in = short=20 minimalist lo-fi video 
 
very interesting ideas, very charming=20 little videos 
 
-Michael
 
------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C9FAFB.A26DF420-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 08:41:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACAB93BE79; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 223997023/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.178.169/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.178.169 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgICAMcOTEpPTrKp/2dsb2JhbAAIkX+9EoQRBYks X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,331,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="223997023" Message-ID: <4A4C75F5.8030902@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:55:17 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) References: <7334ca1b0907011532i735cd16cr5bcda14efb843a70@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907011532i735cd16cr5bcda14efb843a70@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:41:14 +0000 (UTC) 1. "that what Andy calls gain staging" ...and the rest of the world From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 09:10:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A834E3BE79; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1246525829; l=588; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=Y68mSz/9BOVCB3N1T6jGtwszkoA=; b=TieqpyunzD3Mo48P9cq3QjTvZLTtjJPMhd0S0Y2Ab3WZ8iNZAlsdcqXdjUZ82lZvfvt asgKUIk/HHVpyg+RWAw0ltfhYRf/JSDYb2zLIV1G+HAUxAcsPVX5VISq9M6BWL65XDfgo 3qOYssyICFbV7vvNl3OmEya02Xxm/T26VLg= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <010101c9faf5$659ab8e0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <7334ca1b0907010950m7f83387q8b6ca3bad1ef3d0b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual sound and Vision Festival Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:12:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Rainer. Will come back to you later. Christo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:50 PM Subject: Re: Virtual sound and Vision Festival > > Is it easy to install the software that I would need for filming with the webcam? > > The short answer is: "yes!". The slightly longer one: we will provide > a list of tech requirements (as to what computer and what (free) > software you'll need) as well as a detailed howto. > > Best, > > Rainer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 10:42:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 217453BE77; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A4C8F22.4010006@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:42:42 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:42:48 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram Tune in to hear KTU, Echoclyn, Brett Kull (of Echolyn), and more. GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on Jeffrey Koepper. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Etherea" on Air Space Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#jul Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 13:29:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C78B3BE79; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 13:29:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=poFYXvh8F3XfQKqmkZNAgMwIbflaJLXJ2gmLp/DwkzY=; b=ZzltuYLrsciSw/NGyhS3pZav0yseS+D/0Um/EgGoqYTPvEfHDCGXAH6AhfsMXae/h9 eB2tniyLfsuTAo2XUAEzzCwSUeciTajFMFzxEPBLCVBSKB8ysf+qEy+UlsqBEtg7koIb 18b4AfjMQLpi3Rxt4gpsXif/AL6diaO17gECg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=I1Y+WbaeNJ5aG9jW+iSaAS7IlGsK0ad8ZHlS6ZlI8dVH28IVxAYlBHgrWErrFy9axw srgcY5BMQuzQksld4+Oit2ezGw/+5omdkjyDkLv+lYXKj3eTjD7rWvHQAyCnNdNB50y+ PVDPda59F636cDCSBZROKEHHbnlEy9V8XYQME= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <010101c9faf5$659ab8e0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> References: <7334ca1b0907010950m7f83387q8b6ca3bad1ef3d0b@mail.gmail.com> <010101c9faf5$659ab8e0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:29:35 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Virtual sound and Vision Festival From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 13:29:36 +0000 (UTC) it seems i missed this event ... any site where the project is presented? 2009/7/2, Christo Jota : > Thanks, Rainer. Will come back to you later. > Christo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rainer Straschill" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:50 PM > Subject: Re: Virtual sound and Vision Festival > > >> > Is it easy to install the software that I would need for filming with > the webcam? >> >> The short answer is: "yes!". The slightly longer one: we will provide >> a list of tech requirements (as to what computer and what (free) >> software you'll need) as well as a detailed howto. >> >> Best, >> >> Rainer >> > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 13:58:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A2B53BE7F; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 13:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246543125; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=ouQozYJlbPSJHSEIgRSe+y3Tw7A=; b=oY3zGN8AKTmqixDWEcE6Yq5uUTYh54AQjm9bi0eLAHCbIq1ck5iBzEUOGqJ/T4rk Bb319QbeIUClmj//uyEtqydOzlBOlBSVfk+NmowPClGJjW3cxVlN/nXMIj0jvQ1m; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=M2t2oO7bAAAA:8 a=nEJoZ4RnAAAA:8 a=XlZxrKCRu-L1hofETSQA:9 a=h5fUvPKUOW7n7DjrNuueXlj8hGEA:4 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=qZkLyeK80eQA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001801c9fb1d$372206d0$aa862245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0907010950m7f83387q8b6ca3bad1ef3d0b@mail.gmail.com> <010101c9faf5$659ab8e0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Subject: Re: Virtual sound and Vision Festival Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:58:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 13:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Raul, you have not missed anything at all. There is now a Myspace page for it. http://www.myspace.com/vsvfestival and Matt Stevens started a Facebook group you may have seen. Same event in the planning stages. ?Vingui i reuneixi's amb nosaltres per a una aventura d'àudio/vídeo! Best, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul Bonell" To: Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:29 AM Subject: Re: Virtual sound and Vision Festival > it seems i missed this event ... any site where the project is presented? > > 2009/7/2, Christo Jota : >> Thanks, Rainer. Will come back to you later. >> Christo >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rainer Straschill" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:50 PM >> Subject: Re: Virtual sound and Vision Festival >> >> >>> > Is it easy to install the software that I would need for filming with >> the webcam? >>> >>> The short answer is: "yes!". The slightly longer one: we will provide >>> a list of tech requirements (as to what computer and what (free) >>> software you'll need) as well as a detailed howto. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Rainer >>> >> >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > From rosewealth82@yahoo.com Thu Jul 2 14:08:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 744 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:08:35 UTC Received: from ns.youngchang.co.kr (mail.scif-gw.co.kr [128.134.177.10]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3673BE70; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([198.166.44.232]) by ns.youngchang.co.kr (Merak 7.6.4) with ASMTP id JEI38432; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:55:54 +0900 Reply-To: From: "Rose Wealth" Subject: RE: Hello Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 07:55:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20090702140835.0C3673BE70@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Dear Friend, ABOUT ME The way I see it, you have two choices in life; you can be grateful for everything life has given you or you can be resentful for everything life has done to you. 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------=_20090702170938_83162-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 14:26:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D584F3BE79; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qRZC4/0Svs44tefXdPQ0ZTvvZbGNcy+3HBGLjaY/Eto=; b=WhGtcmOr1DOV2igQgZSyf+y5E0rgYbmx6IRjFTTbGBtdNkTo6jVUbb6tm4caePxZUF mCpCxoo/XUonqadH/YbhoZt8LO4CSY6wAsY1ofIhvmcYlmLUIF+wl0KuB+K/DInV1wSM SqDGNxCDWmpymuQHoBmHhH9/nmaD3UvxABilM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QS5WM45letPHF9hL53Bt8/3rC72FbUyqHFSuWNCH0IIn+L2DT3C1UD/ya3RX9dkerW InYyyjO5VZKGkbd0QOa7gnyiFMihKu3uXAn1s7nMXkYWKooli10OVeA8F3OAnfZp+pFD Ewqy57OYbCD6pr+EkMeKC75nav1B0ZwoZqkZo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001801c9fb1d$372206d0$aa862245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <7334ca1b0907010950m7f83387q8b6ca3bad1ef3d0b@mail.gmail.com> <010101c9faf5$659ab8e0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <001801c9fb1d$372206d0$aa862245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:26:19 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Virtual sound and Vision Festival From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2Nep6D.A.KAD.MOMTKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:26:20 +0000 (UTC) ok. pals ... going to check those groups. thanks jeff! 2009/7/2, Jeff Duke : > Raul, you have not missed anything at all. There is now a Myspace page fo= r > it. http://www.myspace.com/vsvfestival and Matt Stevens started a Faceboo= k > group you may have seen. Same event in the planning stages. > ?Vingui i reuneixi's amb nosaltres per a una aventura d'=E0udio/v=EDdeo! > > Best, > > Jeff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Raul Bonell" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:29 AM > Subject: Re: Virtual sound and Vision Festival > > >> it seems i missed this event ... any site where the project is presented= ? >> >> 2009/7/2, Christo Jota : >>> Thanks, Rainer. Will come back to you later. >>> Christo >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Rainer Straschill" >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:50 PM >>> Subject: Re: Virtual sound and Vision Festival >>> >>> >>>> > Is it easy to install the software that I would need for filming wit= h >>> the webcam? >>>> >>>> The short answer is: "yes!". The slightly longer one: we will provide >>>> a list of tech requirements (as to what computer and what (free) >>>> software you'll need) as well as a detailed howto. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Rainer >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> >> > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 14:35:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0DAD3BE7C; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:35:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kubCDBa4rrlFDmPxjFXKxYXrsPDWMNe+la8d/j1/E3E=; b=EbzglmuZJ0exhTjnn4YEV7OOXmdyxLymVaP9BaJ+/eHo071IFvMvsu+95C2cxlq4G5 RHUECmNLBJS16l06H7lci0v5kylyVqRhHtVyDazARlhBjTBRBEiINsOKrHWVnnMUh59u Mt2KuIQUk/JmSHBMYuFvSl/zNg1KX1SkgnPnU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mgUGXt5LX6rqypcJilxfomo+tce53RLZaZ5+e1wmrRJ85HQa5bEh79Tu4t9sk2N1OX 1GZySIUeBQTEFio2DjObtbFmMrh8l8whUDPmipRyCFqdQRHo9OOm0aJDqgzRvsQbZLJu lt1JNC67AKwF14jSe2MAI1U8lfZ0psccS/BD8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0907010950m7f83387q8b6ca3bad1ef3d0b@mail.gmail.com> <010101c9faf5$659ab8e0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <001801c9fb1d$372206d0$aa862245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:35:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Virtual sound and Vision Festival From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:35:19 +0000 (UTC) nice video montage that of the cowboy rainer ... :-) 2009/7/2, Raul Bonell : > ok. pals ... going to check those groups. thanks jeff! > > 2009/7/2, Jeff Duke : >> Raul, you have not missed anything at all. There is now a Myspace page >> for >> it. http://www.myspace.com/vsvfestival and Matt Stevens started a >> Facebook >> group you may have seen. Same event in the planning stages. >> ?Vingui i reuneixi's amb nosaltres per a una aventura d'=E0udio/v=EDdeo! >> >> Best, >> >> Jeff >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Raul Bonell" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 9:29 AM >> Subject: Re: Virtual sound and Vision Festival >> >> >>> it seems i missed this event ... any site where the project is >>> presented? >>> >>> 2009/7/2, Christo Jota : >>>> Thanks, Rainer. Will come back to you later. >>>> Christo >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Rainer Straschill" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:50 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Virtual sound and Vision Festival >>>> >>>> >>>>> > Is it easy to install the software that I would need for filming >>>>> > with >>>> the webcam? >>>>> >>>>> The short answer is: "yes!". The slightly longer one: we will provide >>>>> a list of tech requirements (as to what computer and what (free) >>>>> software you'll need) as well as a detailed howto. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Rainer >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >>> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 14:57:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B82C93BE79; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:57:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <80464e482e91877ab2589d47a246c4be@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: ot.....mac question Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 07:57:20 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:57:26 +0000 (UTC) Skoots, You're not going to like this . . . you and I have the same problem. I have an older iBook (a white 2001 vintage 500MHz PowerPC G3 that will only run Mac OSX 10.3.9 and no later, AFAIK). We've been cheapskate old farts and the rest of the world has moved on to faster machines and newer ways of viewing content. Our mutual problem is that we both need new computers. I keep getting alerts that I cannot view certain flash content on a page because I do not have the very latest Flash plug-in to do so. Unfortunately, I DO have the latest Flash plug-in that will work with MY computer . . . and I bet you do too. Technology changes fast. We move too slow my friend. If it matters to you, it's time to break out the checkbook and go get a new computer. I am contemplating the same thing. But damn if the latest AFFORDABLE iBooks haven't dropped Firewire from the feature list. I have all sorts of external Firewire peripherals. If I cheap-out on a new machine I have to replace those peripherals too . . . not cheap. But the MacBook Pro I want is going to set me back a bit even more if I hold out for what I think I really need. Prices have been coming down though (I think it's the recession). So I may find myself making a move sooner here than I thought. Time to think about it. When it comes to computers, we cant be like old geezers driving a '67 Plymouth - milking it timidly down the highway forever - trying to make it last. The internet has moved on. The world has moved on. We need to catch up . . . LOL. Best, Tedzo On Jul 1, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > i can not view videos anymore and my puter keeps telling me to dl > flash player 9 because my osx is 10.3.9.....when i do this and try to > open flash player i get this message "the destination folder (adobe > flash player 9) is on a locked volume. Please select another > destination.".....can anyone help me?.....off list of > course.....thanks.....m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 15:01:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 547143BE84; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'E Gross'" , References: <4A487167.2020305@tiscali.co.uk> <241609.42061.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: MY NEW TOY Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:01:10 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9FAEB.4628FE40" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acn7H/nICUPiUxdmQdK+sroJa7M7QwABEUdQ In-Reply-To: <241609.42061.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:01:17 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9FAEB.4628FE40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Asher Jr is $759.00 list http://www.asherguitars.com/lap_steel_electro_h_jr.php, but its more like a standard 25 foot scale length :-). I bought one from Bill Asher , and sold it to a friend ( already have one of these, http://www.asherguitars.com/lap_steel_electro_hawaiian.php though mine has nickel covered lollar pickups ) . The Electro Hawaiian Jr, is IMHO the best lap steel on the market under $1000 but its certainly not petite. I've been trying to convince Asher to design a new model that is more of a travel size instrument like a Supro or my Fender champion with a 22 Inch scale length. I'll keep working on him. Bill _____ From: E Gross [mailto:slapbandjam@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:18 AM To: billwalker@baymoon.com Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY Wow, a 22 foot scale lap steel -- post a video! ;) Actually, all kidding aside, I would like to buy/make another lap steel, I have an old Supro but would like to get something with humbuckers. At an affordable price, which rules out the Bill Asher model that Ben Harper uses....any suggestions? Thanks, Eric _____ From: William Walker To: andy butler ; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 1:28:41 AM Subject: RE: MY NEW TOY Bingo! Andy makes a good point, if you used just one amp simulator, say something like a sans amp, and you place it before the M-13 or some where near the start of the chain using the M-13's effects loop. You could achieve the missing link you are looking for without sacrificing the beloved stereo imaging of the effects. I haven't checked my computer in a week which is why I'm coming to this conversation so late. I've been in West Virginia, of all places, visiting relatives of relatives. I brought my 22' scale lap steel and borrowed Rick's Vox DA-5 and took a line 6 dl-4 to keep myself amused. Actually, if you think about it, A DA-5 could make a pretty cool first stage as it has a line/phone out that you could feed the M-13 in either mono or stereo. If you don't have an issue with the "feel" of modeling amps, I'd give either solution a try. Bill tEd R KiLLiAn wrote: > Yeah, it's really too bad that there's no also a single-device solution > for a stereo amp simulator to go along with this device. > Well, I obviuosly you know best what you need to achieve...but... Rather than put two amp sims after the fx, surely it would be neater to put one amp sim between guitar and fx. That gives you more options for combining sounds, and doesn't mush up the layers together. andy ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9FAEB.4628FE40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The Asher Jr is $759.00 list http://ww= w.asherguitars.com/lap_steel_electro_h_jr.php,  but its more like a standard 25 foot scale length = J. I bought one = from Bill Asher , and sold it to a friend ( already have one of these, http:= //www.asherguitars.com/lap_steel_electro_hawaiian.php  though mine has nickel covered lollar pickups ) = .

The Electro Hawaiian  Jr, is =  IMHO the best lap steel on the market under $1000 but its certainly not = petite.  I’ve been trying to convince Asher to design a new model that is more of a = travel size instrument like a Supro or my Fender champion with a 22 Inch scale = length. I’ll keep working on him.

 Bill<= /p>

 

From: E = Gross [mailto:slapbandjam@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 02, = 2009 7:18 AM
To: billwalker@baymoon.com
Subject: Re: MY NEW = TOY

 

Wow, a 22 foot scale lap steel -- post a video! =

;)

 

Actually, all kidding aside, I would like to buy/make = another lap steel, I have an old Supro but would like to get something with = humbuckers. At an affordable price, which rules out the Bill Asher model that Ben = Harper uses....any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

 

Eric=

 

From: William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com>
To: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, = 2009 1:28:41 AM
Subject: RE: MY NEW = TOY

Bingo! Andy makes a good point, if you used just one amp simulator, = say
something like a sans amp, and you place it before the M-13 or some = where
near the start of the chain using the M-13's effects loop. You could = achieve
the missing link you are looking for without sacrificing the beloved = stereo
imaging of the effects. I haven't checked my computer in a week which is = why
I'm coming to this conversation so late. I've been in West Virginia, of all
places, visiting relatives of relatives. I brought my 22' scale lap = steel
and borrowed Rick's Vox DA-5 and took a line 6 dl-4 to keep myself = amused.
Actually, if you think about it, A DA-5 could make a pretty cool first = stage
as it has a line/phone out that you could feed the M-13 in either mono = or
stereo. If you don't have an issue with the "feel" of modeling = amps, I'd
give either solution a try.
Bill


tEd R KiLLiAn wrote:
> Yeah, it's really too bad that there's no also a single-device = solution
> for a stereo amp simulator to go along with this device.
>

Well, I obviuosly you know best what you need to achieve...but...

Rather than put two amp sims after the fx, surely it would
be neater to put one amp sim between guitar and fx.

That gives you more options for combining sounds, and doesn't
mush up the layers together.

andy

 

------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9FAEB.4628FE40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 15:14:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 398CA3BE7F; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246547657; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=8oc6RsSN6ZUjjxoczmXpNVltf14=; b=meBO4ZNmgMiXFJ5WWME9fviOlVvcHzPxLP/EgumD7SbAPmEaQLEusIIs5V99LZcb Gz6ZXKRU8ipm2SAgNH50LwPMIcAC1aDVoE+a1lJbVCItCHy6qt4M8DU98mAeMRQ7; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=MZwQBe6CAAAA:8 a=kTDLv3YEAAAA:20 a=WnzYjt4fAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=xFrrByeE2vq7XbPSLFUA:9 a=0GMTPofxhiMFkuym5tKBDLxuxj4A:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002e01c9fb27$c47d6ba0$aa862245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: OT: Gig spam Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:14:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Just a reminder that my next Ustream show will be Saturday the 4th of July at 12:00 noon east coast US time. Expect fireworks! http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents For your local time you can use this: http://tinyurl.com/kptvev best, Jeff "You can't wait for inspiration. You have to go after it with a club." — Jack London http://jeffduke.org/ http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 15:19:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85CD73BE7C; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:19:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246547959; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=hUFdadaFE/VyZ3oos/KcXbmz1Pg=; b=PoTuz47YXKw+eg9x47DdQeXBk7K7y9iKl9VfccPPt5a/GhKyQ/SvM0Q4zUZBaTFq pA0JWPq9a0zD7RoY4hJ+xeYeuz8SpjAD40BWhTfw0vtq9d89P12lkJaFO0J+2FY+; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=p1AruvsREjnFa3Wh2vMA:9 a=IDks8quCNDZA3fB1JDgA:7 a=5aEEfv-u8xNIfkwKPO717T2s9H4A:4 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <003301c9fb28$78d26dd0$aa862245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <80464e482e91877ab2589d47a246c4be@charter.net> Subject: Re: ot.....mac question Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:19:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:19:20 +0000 (UTC) But I loved my 67 Plymouth, slant 6 and I put an 8 track tape player in it! nationwide man! :) Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd ® KiLLiAn" To: Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:57 AM Subject: Re: ot.....mac question > Skoots, >snip< >we cant be like old geezers driving a '67 Plymouth - milking it timidly >down the highway forever - trying to make it last. > Best, > > Tedzo > > > > > On Jul 1, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > >> i can not view videos anymore and my puter keeps telling me to dl flash >> player 9 because my osx is 10.3.9.....when i do this and try to open >> flash player i get this message "the destination folder (adobe flash >> player 9) is on a locked volume. Please select another >> destination.".....can anyone help me?.....off list of >> course.....thanks.....m > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 15:31:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FE373BE85; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1246548711; bh=WByHsNAbsxk23EA1avbSKYloams8gz7v8uzZmQ2/lKE=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=sjO7IEZK/g235Yt+R6Lqxyy3maY8wCtDG9SNZOQ7yeR23YAAbL/c2N721Q8siczHK SydjR2/CPfs/9RDCrXF0tvhcs1srdy7LXx+p+9ICYknacnI/wQYFSXSTHtoZEygOhJ pg7M5eM/W2ZPmuPpl0mckKprFZutO6mLu54szcD8= Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:31:50 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: ot.....mac question MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:31:53 +0000 (UTC) > If it matters to you, it's time to break out the checkbook and go get a= > new computer. I am contemplating the same thing. But damn if the latest= > AFFORDABLE iBooks haven't dropped Firewire from the feature list. I > have all sorts of external Firewire peripherals. If I cheap-out on a > new machine I have to replace those peripherals too . . . not cheap. Apple recently announced a new and cheaper 13" Macbook Pro with Firewire = for $1199, see http://www.apple.com/mac/whichmacbook/compare.html I think this is more or less the same machine as the previous white 13" M= acBook with FW they sold until Oct '08. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 16:36:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F005E3BE7E; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090702123647.KTGCC.1214680.root@mp11> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 9:36:47 -0700 From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ot.....mac question Cc: Sjaak In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 68.118.35.162 by ssomail.charter.net; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:36:46 -0400 Resent-Message-ID: <1ZLgCC.A.aY.jIOTKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Thanks. I may just have to check that out. I stopped my MacWorld subscription too soon. Been out of the loop. Best, Ted ---- Sjaak wrote: Apple recently announced a new and cheaper 13" Macbook Pro with Firewire for $1199, see http://www.apple.com/mac/whichmacbook/compare.html I think this is more or less the same machine as the previous white 13" MacBook with FW they sold until Oct '08. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 17:05:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A6C23BE79; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:05:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090702170541798.C2D6C8000135@mwinf2e07.orange.fr Message-Id: From: doc rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090702123647.KTGCC.1214680.root@mp11> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: ot.....mac question X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:05:37 +0200 References: <20090702123647.KTGCC.1214680.root@mp11> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:05:43 +0000 (UTC) you should get the Apple Hot News RSS feed On Jul 2, 2009, at 6:36 PM, wrote: > Thanks. > > I may just have to check that out. > > I stopped my MacWorld subscription too soon. > > Been out of the loop. > > Best, > > Ted > > ---- Sjaak wrote: > > Apple recently announced a new and cheaper 13" Macbook Pro with > Firewire for $1199, see http://www.apple.com/mac/whichmacbook/compare.html > > I think this is more or less the same machine as the previous white > 13" MacBook with FW they sold until Oct '08. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 17:05:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A6BC3BE8C; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 435 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:05:48 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=FO5qQ+16cuLRKCgspM9Da2E1WwXgF8bpla/9570y+s8=; b=mO5/UR08R70sD1vLSkmuF5x7uc1P179Lz/QkWmtwagzyZnK/h9RJVFRAFqXtaTqEt7 JfNlzM6k8o+L9YB2wzpJNWAMHBkSdoUD6XZ5fU4HI3dK4BQFTYycGEqsJOV2JnlGLu1s BUy+iLvGJjOX3Hq/CgX+o/DPdyDmQkpibxSzg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=LQ9mI6t/tAucsIEiX6paOuE9bWINoR0qDk2jQP6WJIZAe+yaBkjAQxJ+5cyFfM3gzB tcEg94+du2/Ky7Md5nLvtJzzJWRI+fTWiCE1OgcYOU5ALTG8kbemVbSf6d/XKPVnD6pc lsYXFiCIoptDWbUyNFv6brN8a7q4a/yWfVo5M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:58:32 -0500 Message-ID: <1c3a4db00907020958u60be99fdpfad5ea3266a27fd1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Are there any Firewire Midi-Only Interfaces? From: marcus To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a4af211834046dbbf389 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:05:48 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a4af211834046dbbf389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using a Firebox to receive audio and midi from my microkorg, but I now need another midi in for my looper controller. I have an old midiman midisport (usb1) and a usb2 midi-only interface, but they both have a one second latency. My question: Are there any midi-only interfaces that use firewire? If so, will I run into latency issues if I buy an adapter that allows me to split my single firewire port into two? --001636c5a4af211834046dbbf389 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using a Firebox to receive audio and midi from my microkorg, but I now need another midi in for my looper controller. I have an old midiman midisport (usb1) and a usb2 midi-only interface, but they both have a one second latency.

My question: Are there any midi-only interfaces that use firewire? If so, will I run into latency issues if I buy an adapter that allows me to split my single firewire port into two?
--001636c5a4af211834046dbbf389-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 17:16:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFA233BE86; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DQ3Be2QD2v8kFgn0BowepPvwOgs/UnpfDcTVNAm4vsU=; b=akouzd+PhxBrvhrZLj31VcULcrnmyqYb/SYMPDE7Uv/2wJ60hyt5yXSt1sgfTTmKxB FB9/dN/4VwsUpUPoqCwrIMPTA/+xhK46lHKT+G0xiCSI/dg92+ymNpBbDepvIUdXIwz/ tQ2aoLE+M7fJsBEwkr8NCNDvEa2Q5nS73kjgQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vQimHrYJDOdCSxZJH2ZQ70NJj/+4TQoKaGiS3Gh1OgFWExuztWXE0G5QZjniqTYMT9 5+gEUaa0iyv/SW3uqnyUqEkDje+pEkorDfjv2q1enwNhP2Y1qqS/YJgpX7op6SVeey9j /cFZD6YAUq+u6GNGVSIS/bFZZv6jkX0OY8iNo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1c3a4db00907020958u60be99fdpfad5ea3266a27fd1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c3a4db00907020958u60be99fdpfad5ea3266a27fd1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:16:22 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907021016i12e4f230t30126c117f44c7f9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Are there any Firewire Midi-Only Interfaces? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:16:23 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:58 PM, marcus wrote: > I'm using a Firebox to receive audio and midi from my microkorg, but I now > need another midi in for my looper controller. I have an old midiman > midisport (usb1) and a usb2 midi-only interface, but they both have a one > second latency. If MIDI is delayed by one second there must be something terribly wrong in the system. That's not normal. Check your settings! > My question: Are there any midi-only interfaces that use firewire? Without having googled it for you, I would guess there isn't. The reason is that firewire is such a good protocol to stream digital audio to and from a computer that I really doubt anyone would come up with a product that does occupy a firewire bus by MIDI only. > If so, > will I run into latency issues if I buy an adapter that allows me to split > my single firewire port into two? I would guess so - if you are still talking MIDI latency. I base this on the assumption that the error is to be corrected somewhere in your system's settings. Maybe some piece of gear is set to quantize certain MIDI data and causes the latency? Just follow the entire signal path from where it starts to the target and make sure all settings are as you want them. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 17:20:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C762C3BE92; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:20:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [67.180.253.245] X-Originating-Email: [tygerman_gb@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Ty Gott" To: Subject: Bidule: Snap, Crackle and Pop Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:20:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F2_01C9FAFE.B5D126B0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acn7OWHxGQwbR7+oTZ+44Hy4e4GLkg== Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2009 17:20:17.0882 (UTC) FILETIME=[5ECAB3A0:01C9FB39] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:20:18 +0000 (UTC) ------=_NextPart_000_00F2_01C9FAFE.B5D126B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings from Emeryville California, I'm just getting started with Mobius. I'm very impressed and so far its working very well with one exception. I'm getting crackle sounds I can't get rid of. My main aim is to use Mobius for live looping but I need some signal routing around it to switch my live sound on and off from my inputs and am using Bidule for that. I think the crackle is Bidule all by itself. No crackle on Mobius standalone. Bidule is crackling even when the ASIO device is the only "bidule" on the workspace connected straight thru and no sound is being input. The DSP is spiking in the 20s and running close to 15 most of the time. I've matched up the buffer size with the ASIO (MAudio Ultra USB) and tried a few different rates and messed with the FFT. No luck so far. My machine is a 1.66ghz with 1gb RAM at little light but it's running Mobius just fine. Any suggestions guys? Thanks in advance, -Ty Cheers, -Ty ------=_NextPart_000_00F2_01C9FAFE.B5D126B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Greetings from Emeryville = California,

I'm just getting started with Mobius. I'm very = impressed and so far its working very well with one exception. I'm getting crackle = sounds I can't get rid of.

 

My main aim is to use Mobius for live looping but I = need some signal routing around it to switch my live sound on and off from my = inputs and am using Bidule for that. I think the crackle is Bidule all by = itself. No crackle on Mobius standalone. Bidule is crackling even when the ASIO = device is the only "bidule" on the workspace connected straight thru and = no sound is being input. The DSP is spiking in the 20s and running close to = 15 most of the time. I've matched up the buffer size with the ASIO (MAudio = Ultra USB) and tried a few different rates and messed with the FFT. No luck so = far. My machine is a 1.66ghz with 1gb RAM at little light but it's running = Mobius just fine.

 

Any suggestions guys? Thanks in = advance,

-Ty

 

Cheers,

-Ty

 

------=_NextPart_000_00F2_01C9FAFE.B5D126B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 17:57:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27D773BE7F; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qGD+dnMIhfwcLeevQqI34l3qajbHqBiq/HL8rKYTkFc=; b=Lt4U720hrH6CYOmuwtwY0hBJORvcz30KVuB6sslXbziVvXcCJTwKk2cZccfo0icuk+ kR1z3Cf+R3ZY/MiqoDMpZMQHPAtOlIReG12mDO5OSu5GV48bYsMHvIxiCQ0ZkrzxvTbJ /Pdl9G9wYHSCyxjrhwNsXyFjLJWmfY9WJ8A9I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bmEIMrMSq2zTiU0FizBqLjfwQ1S1IWL+fijdY9cqERrXWaX76t8eq4S6AYZVOZsahi dCec+gI0Acd9i/jtDtghQDjrwPVDWHZOQXeAbD7iBHcROHCMz8fTSfCw4gQiCwaiczWN jdmNdLeAx/NDIpK3GRsKKVt3sSzQVLt7moHRg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907021016i12e4f230t30126c117f44c7f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c3a4db00907020958u60be99fdpfad5ea3266a27fd1@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907021016i12e4f230t30126c117f44c7f9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:57:15 -0500 Message-ID: <1c3a4db00907021057l39aa9e36h9cfb069c9f7f6b4f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Are there any Firewire Midi-Only Interfaces? From: marcus To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5abdf23a62e046dbcc5ee Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:57:17 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5abdf23a62e046dbcc5ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The midi has no latency, it's the USB 2.0 interface used to connect my looper control that has the latency. I'm still not even sure that I have my bidule set up properly, but it works and hasn't caused any problems in the past. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:58 PM, marcus wrote: > > I'm using a Firebox to receive audio and midi from my microkorg, but I > now > > need another midi in for my looper controller. I have an old midiman > > midisport (usb1) and a usb2 midi-only interface, but they both have a one > > second latency. > > If MIDI is delayed by one second there must be something terribly > wrong in the system. That's not normal. Check your settings! > > > > My question: Are there any midi-only interfaces that use firewire? > > Without having googled it for you, I would guess there isn't. The > reason is that firewire is such a good protocol to stream digital > audio to and from a computer that I really doubt anyone would come up > with a product that does occupy a firewire bus by MIDI only. > > > If so, > > will I run into latency issues if I buy an adapter that allows me to > split > > my single firewire port into two? > > I would guess so - if you are still talking MIDI latency. I base this > on the assumption that the error is to be corrected somewhere in your > system's settings. Maybe some piece of gear is set to quantize certain > MIDI data and causes the latency? Just follow the entire signal path > from where it starts to the target and make sure all settings are as > you want them. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --001636c5abdf23a62e046dbcc5ee Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The midi has no latency, it's the USB 2.0 interface used to connect my = looper control that has the latency.

I'm still not even sure tha= t I have my bidule set up properly, but it works and hasn't caused any = problems in the past.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Per Boysen = <perboysen@gmai= l.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:58 PM, marcus<nrvana8775@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm using a Firebox to receive audio and midi from my microkorg, b= ut I now
> need another midi in for my looper controller. I have an old midiman > midisport (usb1) and a usb2 midi-only interface, but they both have a = one
> second latency.

If MIDI is delayed by one second there must be something terribly
wrong in the system. That's not normal. Check your settings!


> My question: Are there any midi-only interfaces that use firewire?

Without having googled it for you, I would guess there isn't. The=
reason is that firewire is such a good protocol to stream digital
audio to and from a computer that I really doubt anyone would come up
with a product that does occupy a firewire bus by MIDI only.

> If so,
> will I run into latency issues if I buy an adapter that allows me to s= plit
> my single firewire port into two?

I would guess so - if you are still talking MIDI latency. I base this=
on the assumption that the error is to be corrected somewhere in your
system's settings. Maybe some piece of gear is set to quantize certain<= br> MIDI data and causes the latency? Just follow the entire signal path
from where it starts to the target and make sure all settings are as
you want them.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


--001636c5abdf23a62e046dbcc5ee-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 18:27:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF8803BE75; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:27:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <1c3a4db00907020958u60be99fdpfad5ea3266a27fd1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: Are there any Firewire Midi-Only Interfaces? Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:27:31 +0200 Message-ID: <00bc01c9fb42$c36f3bb0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BD_01C9FB53.86F80BB0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1c3a4db00907020958u60be99fdpfad5ea3266a27fd1@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acn7Qkg2QT0g7v+YQ1G2Ej8fgYwiuAAAFQVg X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.204; VDF: 7.1.4.171) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:27:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01C9FB53.86F80BB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have an old midiman midisport (usb1) and a usb2 midi-only interface, but they both have a one second latency. I use an old Midiman (Steinberg) USB interface - no audible latency. -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01C9FB53.86F80BB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> = I have an old=20 midiman midisport (usb1) and a usb2 midi-only interface, but they both = have a=20 one second latency. 
 
I=20 use an old Midiman (Steinberg) USB interface - no audible=20 latency.
 
-Michael
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01C9FB53.86F80BB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 18:31:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB83F3BE75; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 13:30:59 -0500 Subject: RE: Are there any Firewire Midi-Only Interfaces? Thread-Topic: Are there any Firewire Midi-Only Interfaces? Thread-Index: Acn7Pn/U7M+dW+4RQmaHtmQ+2LvvFAABJC6g Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270F207@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <1c3a4db00907020958u60be99fdpfad5ea3266a27fd1@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907021016i12e4f230t30126c117f44c7f9@mail.gmail.com> <1c3a4db00907021057l39aa9e36h9cfb069c9f7f6b4f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1c3a4db00907021057l39aa9e36h9cfb069c9f7f6b4f@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ninja-pim: Scanned by Ninja x-ninja-attachmentfiltering: (no action) acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270F207barqsailpoint_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:31:21 +0000 (UTC) --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270F207barqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > The midi has no latency, it's the USB 2.0 interface used to connect my > looper control that has the latency. 1 second of latency for a USB device is insanely slow, there must be something wrong. Even at USB 1.0 speeds, people with USB keyboards don't have to wait a second between key presses. It's hard to say what's wrong, it could be the device, it could be a driver conflict. Are you going through a USB hub or connecting directly to the computer? Jeff --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270F207barqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

> The midi has no latency, it's the USB 2.0 interface use= d to connect my

> looper control that has the latency.<= /p>

 

1 second of latency for a USB device is insanely slow, there must be

something wrong.  Even at USB 1.0 speeds, people with U= SB keyboards

don't have to wait a second between key presses.  It's = hard to say

what's wrong, it could be the device, it could be a driver conflict.

Are you going through a USB hub or connecting directly to th= e

computer?

 

Jeff

 

--_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270F207barqsailpoint_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 18:43:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44DF43BE7C; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=deXMLN1Khb3yz+4O8n+kBe2RWoHIMN9J2T2PrYaamAY=; b=xf/OzNn55T+KvbvXdzoeUlJOgxzIH5nuc0EiYfN38WSj4nGqFr2NShWyJGIPAaljSE dQbfC/YvojuahFPIpyoAXBSyGQWtBP7RkXFzb71HzEBm2uEmdXacdDM/ETeat1ik8Voq 4lr2l0Amp64v8z8U7FgFAOQ6yU915/ETH1ac4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kSNM/RB3W8L8Fcga3ECO0DmW+spb4yToAgbWHOmfuphZ0fCbR38muc+t4LQqj5nqUT X5C2rulQ5NDa19rbnyPCSTBdIMBdgLLpC4gh3mhPla6Wx7rQ2RdDo1fU7OG5hQIIZDc2 vvP3wAcNPmK6ywKaWksHEI+c3xQCrbxw6qSqE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270F207@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <1c3a4db00907020958u60be99fdpfad5ea3266a27fd1@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907021016i12e4f230t30126c117f44c7f9@mail.gmail.com> <1c3a4db00907021057l39aa9e36h9cfb069c9f7f6b4f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270F207@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 13:36:53 -0500 Message-ID: <1c3a4db00907021136pdae67b6hc29caf499450ec93@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Are there any Firewire Midi-Only Interfaces? From: marcus To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f85a94d9afc9046dbd5200 Resent-Message-ID: <6SGQzD.A.O6E.t_PTKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:43:57 +0000 (UTC) --001485f85a94d9afc9046dbd5200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am connecting directly to the computer. I will try out the usb1 device and see how that goes. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > > > > The midi has no latency, it's the USB 2.0 interface used to connect my > > > looper control that has the latency. > > > > 1 second of latency for a USB device is insanely slow, there must be > > something wrong. Even at USB 1.0 speeds, people with USB keyboards > > don't have to wait a second between key presses. It's hard to say > > what's wrong, it could be the device, it could be a driver conflict. > > Are you going through a USB hub or connecting directly to the > > computer? > > > > Jeff > > > --001485f85a94d9afc9046dbd5200 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am connecting directly to the computer. I will try out the usb1 device an= d see how that goes.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009= at 1:30 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> wrote:

=A0

> The midi = has no latency, it's the USB 2.0 interface used to connect my

> looper co= ntrol that has the latency.

=A0

1 second= of latency for a USB device is insanely slow, there must be

something wron= g.=A0 Even at USB 1.0 speeds, people with USB keyboards

don't have= to wait a second between key presses.=A0 It's hard to say

what's wro= ng, it could be the device, it could be a driver conflict.

Are you going = through a USB hub or connecting directly to the

computer?

=A0

Jeff

=A0


--001485f85a94d9afc9046dbd5200-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 18:54:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B08183BE7C; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cSgJmJrO8nrg9vuaicREMQ0ZEMF1mdLupXzzJBTmuoQ=; b=cfqjjBPMW8+qomPwGo6U/WHYybdbz++StKOOFXqVxgJtDdQfFImVQ3U5hNfxS+cD/c i4kfhK4lIIJmDfmrw2RlOlcnL1n2k1yQhmSRvgr05r2p+aAv8eh2/1jSJ2r7K2C3AhOH esdztDsOFH54c6OskyQnuNscWl52okfSC+D00= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XeUEEt08Pqf1lrDCxmk3n9puBVPvHpUGKzR8HlDjnPW/0pVhr525NgYTkO8jW2TlqG AzzpUtxp3NgMPFWs0x53jecEP6UBMMN6W51GIK8IJ9xzdCE97M1BpQC9/6vLY41/09Rn y8avRvz2Z35lykTFso1t+kffyA7f7w9xtOc64= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1c3a4db00907021136pdae67b6hc29caf499450ec93@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c3a4db00907020958u60be99fdpfad5ea3266a27fd1@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907021016i12e4f230t30126c117f44c7f9@mail.gmail.com> <1c3a4db00907021057l39aa9e36h9cfb069c9f7f6b4f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270F207@barq.sailpoint.com> <1c3a4db00907021136pdae67b6hc29caf499450ec93@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:54:38 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Are there any Firewire Midi-Only Interfaces? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Could the problem be your looper controller? What are you using? It's surely not your MIDI interface. I remember having to return a midi pedal once... I think it may have been a Yamaha, for this exact reason. There was a noticeable delay between the time I stepped on the button to the time it transmitted. Really silly. Control with my FCB1010 is as close to instantaneous as it gets. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 19:14:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EF523BE78; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YKaaPGwBjN1dsnRdguKxdvpihmKOMCVY+tmMHoX7zoM=; b=TITL+r0dyIDXo8Ohw2R8dKJnuU6OU0DZ05kNzwRWj3fh0zgbk7024NargXJ/7gRoS7 rXbgK5bom7n+Cer6w7UeBKpHqNAn1ycZxbExU2Z9M1RONiHvjWF4i8nlTS/2/OPWyiY8 6NU2+4qFWVfial3km67zuQ4GVpYQpZoaqcGco= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tjxBVoZTkust0Kas6Pp00gy/3J155EWKK0uSb8OzEz1tPlP62Kl6//uRCHbE84NTGU aU+K+7okXO4t1c7TEqZ3RGR1M2ZqdbzbnQrrzui23AlNlkhP6rsgi+15DW0AaOzgYna3 /hShhwkLapWMKUpz5Esz/+aark0yoXZe4wRbw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20090702123647.KTGCC.1214680.root@mp11> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:14:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ot.....mac question From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:14:44 +0000 (UTC) My brother has a G4 desktop from "back in the day" and he did have a bunch of issues with Flash. He was able to upgrade to the latest OS with it so you may be OK. He said he's not really having any problems with it, though I'm still on 10.4 on my G5. Never felt the need to move up from there. Honestly, if you don't need a laptop or the latest-greatest I suggest an old G5. You can get one fairly cheap: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/sys/1249824286.html and recently I put my new Core 2 Duo Quad up against my G5 and the 4 year old G5 was just as good at running Amplitube (pretty cpu greedy) and a few other VSTis in Live 8. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:05 AM, doc rossi wrote: > you should get the Apple Hot News RSS feed > > On Jul 2, 2009, at 6:36 PM, wrote: > >> Thanks. >> >> I may just have to check that out. >> >> I stopped my MacWorld =A0subscription too soon. >> >> Been out of the loop. >> >> Best, >> >> Ted >> >> ---- Sjaak wrote: >> >> Apple recently announced a new and cheaper 13" Macbook Pro with Firewire >> for $1199, see http://www.apple.com/mac/whichmacbook/compare.html >> >> I think this is more or less the same machine as the previous white 13" >> MacBook with FW they sold until Oct '08. >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 20:41:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A40383BE7C; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oZu8TLgSYKcwTVAke8fWPpffYeI0VkoTEMB8WHTYTY0=; b=dPff+ML7joPQJun47VyEPeNaQxJuFNNWo3huNwggwe8hMZvggFcSs26hm7GPUdqw+5 vv9dBDA3xVVr5j59gUoScKmbog+rEi/0ch67HOlgSkwb30/YkoOHUWQQvTod2+S3aTKY O3VswLS7+3nlBQ7+auAs5N5rK1frgKk9ZZKgA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=gDuQMsvSK1SrQgv6WvkWFrF7aiIZKlfKDs3MGBn/zOTgENGl7fBZbB6F/ZkQvq+/a2 77DjbnA8HrOOtd7LhRys6RF1bgNmFn7EyZwVepjvfAEMxmHpc0GKwlJTsKFOQweSVUSt S0VMYnHScZkje+XCUqYOygrfQiP2GZ8Owyr9g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 13:41:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Native Instruments deal From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4xbGv.A.Jd.-tRTKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:41:34 +0000 (UTC) For those who succumbed to the machine world: http://www.zzounds.com/item--NINKOMPLETE2 That's a kick ass little deal. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 21:52:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 376253BE7C; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:52:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 11738 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:52:32 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oq6BNOBibB6oeVnir2S3Up4nN/BIyyrZ/TvmOFEI63c=; b=fZWl2ZfTXCRea9E3T7OMVbMn981Gs/iISMfKiVpir8iBjGSuUDJJ9OT+4EDT3LXT72 iJp+ljUnIScBgYbys+gKVSt28Ai9otT8mKTJRPa5VkDoeRbo54f1zuxYQiDeeDiKcQGA cNUkxTtqHieHLmTdrge6xnEuWREvPFQXBZ4oU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aD2rc6nPKtd3qNrLPXRPPg+JeR4uZ5yOzewRpTCAjJdPjrabvnmhPbIRHmnOlRcF2h mkyoBNdGACgaqFrp4JkwUF+qlddd27MUB9kdvAvXwGSzg6vlssSbYvji/kmMMkhmMlbT 9iGy/vU+2yzPOm35lbypswPKFQJzht9GdKpLo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1c3a4db00907020958u60be99fdpfad5ea3266a27fd1@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907021016i12e4f230t30126c117f44c7f9@mail.gmail.com> <1c3a4db00907021057l39aa9e36h9cfb069c9f7f6b4f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270F207@barq.sailpoint.com> <1c3a4db00907021136pdae67b6hc29caf499450ec93@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:52:30 -0500 Message-ID: <1c3a4db00907021452u693043c7x9905ce276c9226a7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Are there any Firewire Midi-Only Interfaces? From: marcus To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f85a94742a75046dc00e78 Resent-Message-ID: <-IzJLD.A.LtC.hwSTKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:52:33 +0000 (UTC) --001485f85a94742a75046dc00e78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using a rolls midi buddy. It has never caused any sort of delay except for now, when using USB. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Could the problem be your looper controller? What are you using? > It's surely not your MIDI interface. I remember having to return a > midi pedal once... I think it may have been a Yamaha, for this exact > reason. There was a noticeable delay between the time I stepped on > the button to the time it transmitted. Really silly. Control with my > FCB1010 is as close to instantaneous as it gets. > > --001485f85a94742a75046dc00e78 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm using a rolls midi buddy. It has never caused any sort of delay exc= ept for now, when using USB.

On Thu, Jul = 2, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:
Could the problem= be your looper controller? =A0What are you using?
It's surely not your MIDI interface. I remember having to return a
midi pedal once... I think it may have been a Yamaha, for this exact
reason. =A0There was a noticeable delay between the time I stepped on
the button to the time it transmitted. =A0Really silly. =A0Control with my<= br> FCB1010 is as close to instantaneous as it gets.


--001485f85a94742a75046dc00e78-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 21:58:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 416F93BE75; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:58:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DUmv+N6Iy77Ip1ttZVP57yN1xetmcWBaL5v0LEz/PzE=; b=adMgkBSf4gazwixLo+FFcV3MZRlxKGWIJO2HWt33DAmiL93Ve4wpkH4FP5T1cXJ0Zq s0qD+mz2sSKZxBYERwghrB+lhP8UZHTJwDBQF/Fvq71nx3isNUrjBy+aPos/Fxpjcvdl lx7V3zFGAuC2x7LdMNWTXNroOIiuuMFbUDjNY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JC40BdSuuMggSJcM3FrxxggRe0A+XoKx6+6fEgqr4AdnPf72IweJ/tSoKO00th72Fa HAqyE3IPAyMiEQkFF1vgTNfo3XrbWaVxyqboufC4ogDhufmKrd8L9SkJVfFLZepibdcA c4jIgNn39PYXTuREYvdEy4ArTKaE0bLbac+1Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1c3a4db00907021452u693043c7x9905ce276c9226a7@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c3a4db00907020958u60be99fdpfad5ea3266a27fd1@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907021016i12e4f230t30126c117f44c7f9@mail.gmail.com> <1c3a4db00907021057l39aa9e36h9cfb069c9f7f6b4f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270F207@barq.sailpoint.com> <1c3a4db00907021136pdae67b6hc29caf499450ec93@mail.gmail.com> <1c3a4db00907021452u693043c7x9905ce276c9226a7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:58:50 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907021458s25c2534as61b2540016b84a1a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Are there any Firewire Midi-Only Interfaces? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:58:51 +0000 (UTC) Hey - guys, there seems to be some misunderstanding in this thread. It now looks as Marcus are talking about audio latency - although his first post gave the impression that he had problems with MIDI latency. Marcus, maybe you can explain again so people with knowledge can give accurate advice? ;-)' Per On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:52 PM, marcus wrote: > I'm using a rolls midi buddy. It has never caused any sort of delay excep= t > for now, when using USB. > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Mark Sottilaro > wrote: >> >> Could the problem be your looper controller? =C2=A0What are you using? >> It's surely not your MIDI interface. I remember having to return a >> midi pedal once... I think it may have been a Yamaha, for this exact >> reason. =C2=A0There was a noticeable delay between the time I stepped on >> the button to the time it transmitted. =C2=A0Really silly. =C2=A0Control= with my >> FCB1010 is as close to instantaneous as it gets. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 22:04:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E34683BE7F; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090702164338.e6j44vvcgs0wo804@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:43:38 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Are there any Firewire Midi-Only Interfaces? References: <1c3a4db00907020958u60be99fdpfad5ea3266a27fd1@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907021016i12e4f230t30126c117f44c7f9@mail.gmail.com> <1c3a4db00907021057l39aa9e36h9cfb069c9f7f6b4f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270F207@barq.sailpoint.com> <1c3a4db00907021136pdae67b6hc29caf499450ec93@mail.gmail.com> <1c3a4db00907021452u693043c7x9905ce276c9226a7@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907021458s25c2534as61b2540016b84a1a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907021458s25c2534as61b2540016b84a1a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:04:37 +0000 (UTC) This might be a good set of steps: 1) hook up both controllers at the same time 2) trigger the same thing with both of them 3) are the results different? 4) do you have other usb devices connected? For debugging, if you are on Windows, you can load up MIDI-Ox and =20 visually see the data come in from both devices. can you see a =20 difference in timing? -cpr Quoting Per Boysen : > Hey - guys, there seems to be some misunderstanding in this thread. It > now looks as Marcus are talking about audio latency - although his > first post gave the impression that he had problems with MIDI latency. > > Marcus, maybe you can explain again so people with knowledge can give > accurate advice? ;-)' > > Per > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:52 PM, marcus wrote: >> I'm using a rolls midi buddy. It has never caused any sort of delay excep= t >> for now, when using USB. >> >> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Mark Sottilaro >> wrote: >>> >>> Could the problem be your looper controller? =C2=A0What are you using? >>> It's surely not your MIDI interface. I remember having to return a >>> midi pedal once... I think it may have been a Yamaha, for this exact >>> reason. =C2=A0There was a noticeable delay between the time I stepped on >>> the button to the time it transmitted. =C2=A0Really silly. =C2=A0Control= with my >>> FCB1010 is as close to instantaneous as it gets. >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 22:19:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1A823BE78; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9hx6lE0A9hVDWKCbJJmEuKUb3bv5VibrB9QQhIDJU20=; b=sIGW3u/UOXNg1k5s5VSP52/lhcB3IqDf2A9KXnDu43z61jtAbQJC12c8TfjGCWQViY lyStFU+SKUN/OqzZ+SJTvzzL+kKxz6hwpf6l/AqWy3pkH+B8mhKubpNgTBj4cctl7iYe ATwHMTjkaL1Hnn/NkEMysDXAVTTQyUDHeijv0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=APK1u683EcAd9JjyO+76AsmHJAFo1xSDAL9o1RrWCysX7Of8V9XGKBLjzMMfXRBcox tHsckhevgxgIbJk+gjWHc3yjDUMiJEy6WaYFmq7Qmfqn5MpowwLe9Bl4Pxwl1C+VRIy7 KPH0UiA7fIhRzZdas/gSOtA0yFhoL3FrAspZM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090702164338.e6j44vvcgs0wo804@webmail.musetrap.com> References: <1c3a4db00907020958u60be99fdpfad5ea3266a27fd1@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907021016i12e4f230t30126c117f44c7f9@mail.gmail.com> <1c3a4db00907021057l39aa9e36h9cfb069c9f7f6b4f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270F207@barq.sailpoint.com> <1c3a4db00907021136pdae67b6hc29caf499450ec93@mail.gmail.com> <1c3a4db00907021452u693043c7x9905ce276c9226a7@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907021458s25c2534as61b2540016b84a1a@mail.gmail.com> <20090702164338.e6j44vvcgs0wo804@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:19:52 -0500 Message-ID: <1c3a4db00907021519y4346b638xe64e2622ba774813@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Are there any Firewire Midi-Only Interfaces? From: marcus To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5ad4d51424b046dc070ef Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:19:53 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5ad4d51424b046dc070ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is the issue at hand: Midi controller -> Firewire = no delay between clicking button and triggering a command Midi controller -> USB = less than a 1 second delay between click and command trigger My looping is off because there is a delay between the button click and command trigger. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:43 PM, wrote: > This might be a good set of steps: > > 1) hook up both controllers at the same time > 2) trigger the same thing with both of them > 3) are the results different? > 4) do you have other usb devices connected? > > For debugging, if you are on Windows, you can load up MIDI-Ox and visually > see the data come in from both devices. can you see a difference in timing? > > -cpr > > > Quoting Per Boysen : > > Hey - guys, there seems to be some misunderstanding in this thread. It >> now looks as Marcus are talking about audio latency - although his >> first post gave the impression that he had problems with MIDI latency. >> >> Marcus, maybe you can explain again so people with knowledge can give >> accurate advice? ;-)' >> >> Per >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:52 PM, marcus wrote: >> >>> I'm using a rolls midi buddy. It has never caused any sort of delay >>> except >>> for now, when using USB. >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Mark Sottilaro >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Could the problem be your looper controller? What are you using? >>>> It's surely not your MIDI interface. I remember having to return a >>>> midi pedal once... I think it may have been a Yamaha, for this exact >>>> reason. There was a noticeable delay between the time I stepped on >>>> the button to the time it transmitted. Really silly. Control with my >>>> FCB1010 is as close to instantaneous as it gets. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > --001636c5ad4d51424b046dc070ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is the issue at hand:

Midi controller -> Firewire =3D no del= ay between clicking button and triggering a command
Midi controller ->= ; USB =3D less than a 1 second delay between click and command trigger
<= br> My looping is off because there is a delay between the button click and com= mand trigger.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:43= PM, <cpr@musetra= p.com> wrote:
This might be a g= ood set of steps:

1) hook up both controllers at the same time
2) trigger the same thing with both of them
3) are the results different?
4) do you have other usb devices connected?

For debugging, if you are on Windows, you can load up MIDI-Ox and visually = see the data come in from both devices. can you see a difference in timing?=

-cpr


Quoting Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>:

Hey - guys, there seems to be some misunderstanding in this thread. It
now looks as Marcus are talking about audio latency - although his
first post gave the impression that he had problems with MIDI latency.

Marcus, maybe you can explain again so people with knowledge can give
accurate advice? ;-)'

Per



On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:52 PM, marcus<nrvana8775@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm using a rolls midi buddy. It has never caused any sort of delay exc= ept
for now, when using USB.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com>
wrote:

Could the problem be your looper controller? =A0What are you using?
It's surely not your MIDI interface. I remember having to return a
midi pedal once... I think it may have been a Yamaha, for this exact
reason. =A0There was a noticeable delay between the time I stepped on
the button to the time it transmitted. =A0Really silly. =A0Control with my<= br> FCB1010 is as close to instantaneous as it gets.






--001636c5ad4d51424b046dc070ef-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 23:12:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 751433BE80; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wpPA/3cMeiW1QDxUwggWeMJfr1cw+PZBuwe+LuUXx/k=; b=WYHllwIf01TaKrHEXY/EwI9yf/k7xmLsSrzKYGlDlqbiE5iOTdvno8XI9U7GCkKaLm an/xQr8ji2MXrKHhbKdZj2GbU+MrTJlR9FegHBNCnuIIEl0EBJc/aHZ9XuASlitnuQy5 4Qu9/bO/Ma/orvjTYolbEpimzTyZP+DJ/FudA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ip6XHycdl4wjIQHYiIxRZCekzEX5Aoszt4xU13E2lDE9Dxrl7GiIuNaDSM6+oXyQ9P wc240giL7+QpYD7jhpTwOMEq61yZVwT3tyBthbLvvSeOzlM6y7yBnZC4vwu2PnMCmxwi bO0HgAqr4HHB6MJefrP0AeMhSA6r7d7c5B758= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <003301c9fb28$78d26dd0$aa862245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <80464e482e91877ab2589d47a246c4be@charter.net> <003301c9fb28$78d26dd0$aa862245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:12:40 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907021612i529eedb1jab7eadceaaee8d8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ot.....mac question From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4oK_6D.A.xOF.p7TTKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Re ted for its worth I did really well back in january getting via craigs list a first gen intel mac bp for 1K, 17 inch model whch has been great for editing. 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Happy 4th guys jim On 7/2/09, Jeff Duke wrote: > But I loved my 67 Plymouth, slant 6 and I put an 8 track tape player in i= t! > nationwide man! :) > > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tEd =AE KiLLiAn" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:57 AM > Subject: Re: ot.....mac question > > >> Skoots, > >>snip< > >>we cant be like old geezers driving a '67 Plymouth - milking it timidly >>down the highway forever - trying to make it last. > Best, >> >> Tedzo >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 1, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: >> >>> i can not view videos anymore and my puter keeps telling me to dl flash >>> player 9 because my osx is 10.3.9.....when i do this and try to open >>> flash player i get this message "the destination folder (adobe flash >>> player 9) is on a locked volume. Please select another >>> destination.".....can anyone help me?.....off list of >>> course.....thanks.....m >> >> > > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 2 23:54:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB0083BE7C; Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nTTxLwRWDYoacRvJZzQ8U1HkWSa1FBAxdgogSRJlBpI=; b=rBbucGC0AmjdZDZCGnH9x8zbrnmqqjdxUYL30tujIpyXlYaX5TzfW6ZcVoG8j6KqHd 0n6Blpo+juoZKzQJZmHUB8b5eOmdSwPp+Yk+rD+g8IGo5rYwqPO/5uFIhH7dYQwOReW4 gRJBEb0hZjGPQtx4WfRkP42Djb5Vyjsczwh0M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rfa85hShq8poMkat7yVBi4XU270l4fdtQap2jkNVwdu2x56kcjrfj3tbMlbSJ3V5/V laMK5mRqFpGlgpPa2ExX1GCPXCbgPI76xggUS3HtChvWZR9d3gtTKeQv8fxCwQMbhpg7 TXf1arMRL1o9c6XiFMXAl0qPDqxAkDyRSPOzQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1c3a4db00907021519y4346b638xe64e2622ba774813@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c3a4db00907020958u60be99fdpfad5ea3266a27fd1@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907021016i12e4f230t30126c117f44c7f9@mail.gmail.com> <1c3a4db00907021057l39aa9e36h9cfb069c9f7f6b4f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270F207@barq.sailpoint.com> <1c3a4db00907021136pdae67b6hc29caf499450ec93@mail.gmail.com> <1c3a4db00907021452u693043c7x9905ce276c9226a7@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907021458s25c2534as61b2540016b84a1a@mail.gmail.com> <20090702164338.e6j44vvcgs0wo804@webmail.musetrap.com> <1c3a4db00907021519y4346b638xe64e2622ba774813@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:54:56 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Are there any Firewire Midi-Only Interfaces? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Ah. What was the original question then? It's well established that USB1 is not useful for real-time (real-ish) audio applications. USB2... I've not had success with it myself, but I've got a MOTU 828 that serves me well (I think I get a round trip latency of 14 ms on it) , and an M-Audio Firewire Solo to take to gigs (though that doesn't actually happen) I found I had all sorts of problems when I installed the drivers for an NI USB2 Guitar Rig Session (purchased as a devilish plan to get Guitar Rig for $100) so I never actually even tried using it. I know a lot of people seem to do it, but I've always been told that for continuous streaming data Firewire still rules. One issue is that you need to buy something with a Texas Instruments or Lucent Firewire chipset, as the Richo one will often not work for some reason. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 3:19 PM, marcus wrote: > Here is the issue at hand: > > Midi controller -> Firewire =3D no delay between clicking button and > triggering a command > Midi controller -> USB =3D less than a 1 second delay between click and > command trigger > > My looping is off because there is a delay between the button click and > command trigger. > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:43 PM, wrote: >> >> This might be a good set of steps: >> >> 1) hook up both controllers at the same time >> 2) trigger the same thing with both of them >> 3) are the results different? >> 4) do you have other usb devices connected? >> >> For debugging, if you are on Windows, you can load up MIDI-Ox and visual= ly >> see the data come in from both devices. can you see a difference in timi= ng? >> >> -cpr >> >> Quoting Per Boysen : >> >>> Hey - guys, there seems to be some misunderstanding in this thread. It >>> now looks as Marcus are talking about audio latency - although his >>> first post gave the impression that he had problems with MIDI latency. >>> >>> Marcus, maybe you can explain again so people with knowledge can give >>> accurate advice? ;-)' >>> >>> Per >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:52 PM, marcus wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm using a rolls midi buddy. It has never caused any sort of delay >>>> except >>>> for now, when using USB. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Mark Sottilaro >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Could the problem be your looper controller? =A0What are you using? >>>>> It's surely not your MIDI interface. I remember having to return a >>>>> midi pedal once... I think it may have been a Yamaha, for this exact >>>>> reason. =A0There was a noticeable delay between the time I stepped on >>>>> the button to the time it transmitted. =A0Really silly. =A0Control wi= th my >>>>> FCB1010 is as close to instantaneous as it gets. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 00:09:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BE2F3BE80; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:09:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BXl9YKzoSnd5onGXeaiP5TIkPE/h5gXMWR43Kmhrjns=; b=bt/2EXBwDegDWkxGKrocX8NFkv9bXFpKXNRckPZfW6GlGD6F8MG318F0b2HinPLoI/ JWWONNJ9dtawjKmGdhAgU1FBiqo7SUDkTtrQbgoMiVlJfjTel15R6I/+j6Z3DGu2FfJi wCwP8xBvQ/CBeRrd0tICOS7eVKyrrt0mZpWvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N3oTstTixiZ/RqGMh5LtedVzKN1zg6L+0+5qfOigBS2nGZw9aXOoFdCGYz5LazY0dM t/M13odaIBIfGaLJcstCqEM4J/hoWwSv6bW/BAryC51YqRwDR1xRn3MK7t+wDIc6kdxD blznPHuHorhM4tAS5HFTaH7BBdeJGzoCVCCJQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907021458s25c2534as61b2540016b84a1a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1c3a4db00907020958u60be99fdpfad5ea3266a27fd1@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907021016i12e4f230t30126c117f44c7f9@mail.gmail.com> <1c3a4db00907021057l39aa9e36h9cfb069c9f7f6b4f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270F207@barq.sailpoint.com> <1c3a4db00907021136pdae67b6hc29caf499450ec93@mail.gmail.com> <1c3a4db00907021452u693043c7x9905ce276c9226a7@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907021458s25c2534as61b2540016b84a1a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:01:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Are there any Firewire Midi-Only Interfaces? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:09:06 +0000 (UTC) I think we thought it was a midi issue because of... >I'm using a Firebox to receive audio and midi from my microkorg, but I now= need another midi in for my looper controller. I have an old >midiman midi= sport (usb1) and a usb2 midi-only interface, but they both have a one secon= d latency. So I still don't understand the problem... unless you're using something like a convolution reverb or PSP's Vintage Warmer that add latency to your system he should be fine. I'm not even sure why he can't use the midi through on the microkorg instead of having a second MIDI interface. I control synths on channel 1, Mobius on channel 2 and CC effects using channel 3 all with a Novation Remote 25 SL. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hey - guys, there seems to be some misunderstanding in this thread. It > now looks as Marcus are talking about audio latency - although his > first post gave the impression that he had problems with MIDI latency. > > Marcus, maybe you can explain again so people with knowledge can give > accurate advice? ;-)' > > Per > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:52 PM, marcus wrote: >> I'm using a rolls midi buddy. It has never caused any sort of delay exce= pt >> for now, when using USB. >> >> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Mark Sottilaro >> wrote: >>> >>> Could the problem be your looper controller? =A0What are you using? >>> It's surely not your MIDI interface. I remember having to return a >>> midi pedal once... I think it may have been a Yamaha, for this exact >>> reason. =A0There was a noticeable delay between the time I stepped on >>> the button to the time it transmitted. =A0Really silly. =A0Control with= my >>> FCB1010 is as close to instantaneous as it gets. >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 00:35:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 995793BE7F; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:35:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:references; bh=pNDMVRw4plvSpLAOaM2XrCMbgHpu81gk48yYQWq4Pi8=; b=szhxqkbHvGCq4bYmmj7IgE9nGb9vqCtEHL4cAYOrOGnBueksqKcSLXeTEOWBXQFXmd HteJQSCZnPzXbHU0vtEj6hawJhItaw2ZDWwKirI3T32sNQ1ro8nJ8ikx5N4NY9hafUZH r1SKFbxDNEmySqr/l56dnxiZ4y8+xF4mwFVXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; b=DkRi1+AceuA04x0T3FonHh7dKiUEpLG/aWXAJNqnWAa/bdF+8a34WX8eKfHs1SzARJ GdUe1MCf8+qfcgN1q/j6WXq7XVg5DGR5K+2P0bk7NWLan4dTfoNrtUwYlHkkPlODEF7y LGqxqwlRBLPX1Eu61p8ZleLmrHpEo7ED1GKtc= Message-Id: <7761A6B4-5DA2-4012-906E-E90157D0FCB9@gmail.com> From: Andy Roberts To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A341) Subject: Re: OT: Native Instruments deal Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:30:02 -0400 References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 00:35:33 +0000 (UTC) Newb here - I bought in on this today from Musician's Friend Pro Shop with a $65 additional discount (by entering 'MINE' at the second coupon promt during the order process). 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Mr.Cheng Keung From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 01:03:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE96F3BE7F; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 01:03:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3705 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:03:06 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qQUowATloVHHOU1IQdtVs44kWj5peJGtED315vhfUOo=; b=tL/C6taEUplr85yrFbbxeAsNGMyUmIuKTqMapsjL7BbCOIrE9fT/FadGGqe3APqhoL qF5K8ynXMrS9wilMeXF/elFbndwAGCB/Aa++4cT+Vfq58KzRCc/OUW7Sde6VkTvGIuz0 UZ9McCwWAZzjP3MBSWnfitObYPXCVNB58UwZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LzUhLNbSGOri95VF46iqHahm/cb8QRbDavOSBEDLFdiETFCnHnux6iTj6ZZApQxqLI m5Do9fH/Z/LlIep/r2IRxeBtyz8445SGJfrGw5SbHdMjMAB4fFlSDbY7hC4RhlnBcXp4 WsAxLFMvBIM1NfqURi2WAeXX7Qj/gMPQ46plo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7761A6B4-5DA2-4012-906E-E90157D0FCB9@gmail.com> References: <7761A6B4-5DA2-4012-906E-E90157D0FCB9@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:03:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Native Instruments deal From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 01:03:06 +0000 (UTC) What do you mean "pro shop?" On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Andy Roberts wrote: > Newb here - I bought in on this today from Musician's Friend Pro Shop > with a $65 additional discount (by entering 'MINE' at the second coupon > promt during the order process). > > Yup, Komplete for $335 with free shipping to boot. > > Really lookin' forward to using Guitar Rig and Battery with Ableton!!! > > Back to lurking and learning :) > > Drew > > > > On Jul 2, 2009, at 4:41 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > >> For those who succumbed to the machine world: >> >> http://www.zzounds.com/item--NINKOMPLETE2 >> >> That's a kick ass little deal. >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 01:45:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 156573BE7F; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 01:45:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A4D62C2.7070509@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:45:38 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: pool.loop vs. loop.pool References: <57695fb60907021325m4abae002p379daf4ce2ae6b7c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907021409r411023c9t12c6e30fb7598361@mail.gmail.com> <41BB6927-42D7-46F1-9539-AF8CA90CBF85@gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907021658n7a289af7h5f98abd61b56ca70@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907021658n7a289af7h5f98abd61b56ca70@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 01:45:44 +0000 (UTC) I guess I've been ahead of the curve the whole time with this looppool thing. I guess I just got it backwards, though....... An event called Pool Loop in Zurich. http://www.pool09.ch/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 02:27:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65AB73BE78; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 02:27:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:27:06 UTC Message-ID: <84869211C1844B38BE6D63C28EA44B11@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <57695fb60907021325m4abae002p379daf4ce2ae6b7c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907021409r411023c9t12c6e30fb7598361@mail.gmail.com> <41BB6927-42D7-46F1-9539-AF8CA90CBF85@gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907021658n7a289af7h5f98abd61b56ca70@mail.gmail.com> <4A4D62C2.7070509@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: pool.loop vs. loop.pool Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:20:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <0lI76C.A.F_C.7xWTKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 02:27:07 +0000 (UTC) Seems to me that you'll have to have the next looping festival in a pool. :-) > I guess I just got it backwards, though....... > > An event called Pool Loop in Zurich. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 02:40:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E7FF3BE79; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 02:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eJ9zKMBO/I7SlzUYoU2EX7AAdGl1HkxzbtkE4j6GHDw=; b=cqFcoT5e7zNrJpu8tYPegTmrvm0w172FaLvJQZnZ0ci5erQdrV/GkVJ3lHv/QS37qm J0/fNXPvhSKLIEye6ixofZUVL9ze1Guz8wBsyXxyqNc169znhA/8wW0yWmR1PAiusfi9 bw6cCM2ilf+zRlCv+uOQONb7WQEMaqaOnRmRY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CfFuSjeAhH22vATZtTKRXUOi96+ZLjvEtOIBiP3EsJ2sqWW1tSajecSDwDq/yKZ6vv 2qpoOpsiPiVDQZUusi2DbdpDdewvvGDC88nGr8J0FDxn3xPM3AjPrmkBdQX3hPASrYR1 yklNuYfhMN1/T7SP1ujW6rq5cBHenA1oAosI0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7761A6B4-5DA2-4012-906E-E90157D0FCB9@gmail.com> References: <7761A6B4-5DA2-4012-906E-E90157D0FCB9@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:40:31 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0907021940p64e2e5e8u6c9e899d8d28448a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Native Instruments deal From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_fvRJ.A.lZD.i-WTKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 02:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Wow, just got it, thanks. $335 is really a steal. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Andy Roberts wrote: > Newb here - I bought in on this today from Musician's Friend Pro Shop > with a $65 additional discount (by entering 'MINE' at the second coupon > promt during the order process). > > Yup, Komplete for $335 with free shipping to boot. > > Really lookin' forward to using Guitar Rig and Battery with Ableton!!! > > Back to lurking and learning :) > > Drew > > > > On Jul 2, 2009, at 4:41 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > >> For those who succumbed to the machine world: >> >> http://www.zzounds.com/item--NINKOMPLETE2 >> >> That's a kick ass little deal. >> > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 03:10:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8B863BE78; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 03:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2957 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:10:29 UTC Message-Id: From: richard sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--154986280 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:21:09 -0700 References: <4A487167.2020305@tiscali.co.uk> <241609.42061.qm@web45908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 03:10:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--154986280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I haven't played one, but Robert Randolph, who is sort of the Jimi =20 Hendrix of lap steel, plays one of these: http://www.harmosmusic.com/SG/indexSG.htm (Check out Robert's samples online. It's dazzling!) Looks like the Golden Gate Bridge, but the online samples sound pretty =20= cool. It's cheaper than an Asher EH... but I still want an Asher. Still working up the chops (with the old Supro) to warrant spending =20 the dough on a Harmos / Asher. The sample by Steinar Gregertsen =20 playing God Only Knows on the Asher Electro Hawaiian is one of the =20 best lap steel SOUNDS I've ever heard. He did it with plug ins! Almost finished the record I'm working on (4 months and counting!). =20 Hope to have some happy news on that front in the next month or two. En Shallah! Knock on wood! I check in with you all frequently and always very much enjoy reading =20= your posts. your fan richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On Jul 2, 2009, at 8:01 AM, William Walker wrote: > The Asher Jr is $759.00 list = http://www.asherguitars.com/lap_steel_electro_h_jr.php=20 > , but its more like a standard 25 foot scale length J. I bought one =20= > from Bill Asher , and sold it to a friend ( already have one of =20 > these,http://www.asherguitars.com/lap_steel_electro_hawaiian.php =20 > though mine has nickel covered lollar pickups ) . > The Electro Hawaiian Jr, is IMHO the best lap steel on the market =20= > under $1000 but its certainly not petite. I=92ve been trying to =20 > convince Asher to design a new model that is more of a travel size =20 > instrument like a Supro or my Fender champion with a 22 Inch scale =20 > length. I=92ll keep working on him. > Bill > > From: E Gross [mailto:slapbandjam@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:18 AM > To: billwalker@baymoon.com > Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY > > Wow, a 22 foot scale lap steel -- post a video! > ;) > > Actually, all kidding aside, I would like to buy/make another lap =20 > steel, I have an old Supro but would like to get something with =20 > humbuckers. At an affordable price, which rules out the Bill Asher =20 > model that Ben Harper uses....any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Eric > > From: William Walker > To: andy butler ; = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 1:28:41 AM > Subject: RE: MY NEW TOY > > Bingo! Andy makes a good point, if you used just one amp simulator, =20= > say > something like a sans amp, and you place it before the M-13 or some =20= > where > near the start of the chain using the M-13's effects loop. You could =20= > achieve > the missing link you are looking for without sacrificing the beloved =20= > stereo > imaging of the effects. I haven't checked my computer in a week =20 > which is why > I'm coming to this conversation so late. I've been in West Virginia, =20= > of all > places, visiting relatives of relatives. I brought my 22' scale lap =20= > steel > and borrowed Rick's Vox DA-5 and took a line 6 dl-4 to keep myself =20 > amused. > Actually, if you think about it, A DA-5 could make a pretty cool =20 > first stage > as it has a line/phone out that you could feed the M-13 in either =20 > mono or > stereo. If you don't have an issue with the "feel" of modeling amps, =20= > I'd > give either solution a try. > Bill > > > tEd R KiLLiAn wrote: > > Yeah, it's really too bad that there's no also a single-device =20 > solution > > for a stereo amp simulator to go along with this device. > > > > Well, I obviuosly you know best what you need to achieve...but... > > Rather than put two amp sims after the fx, surely it would > be neater to put one amp sim between guitar and fx. > > That gives you more options for combining sounds, and doesn't > mush up the layers together. > > andy > > --Apple-Mail-2--154986280 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I haven't played one, but = Robert Randolph, who is sort of the Jimi Hendrix of lap steel, plays one = of these: 


(Check out Robert's = samples online.  It's dazzling!)

Looks = like the Golden Gate Bridge, but the online samples sound pretty cool. =  It's cheaper than an Asher EH... but I still want an Asher. =  

Still working up the chops (with the old = Supro) to warrant spending the dough on a Harmos / Asher.  The = sample by Steinar Gregertsen playing God Only Knows on the Asher Electro = Hawaiian is one of the best lap steel SOUNDS I've ever heard.  He = did it with plug ins!

Almost finished the = record I'm working on (4 months and counting!).  Hope to have some = happy news on that front in the next month or = two. 

En Shallah! Knock on = wood!

I check in with you all frequently and = always very much enjoy reading your posts. =  

your fan

richard = sales
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
=

On Jul = 2, 2009, at 8:01 AM, William Walker wrote:

 William Walker = <To: andy butler < Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 = 1:28:41 AM
 RE: MY NEW = TOY

Bingo! Andy makes a = good point, if you used just one amp simulator, say
something like a = sans amp, and you place it before the M-13 or some where
near the = start of the chain using the M-13's effects loop. You could = achieve
the missing link you are looking for without sacrificing the = beloved stereo
imaging of the effects. I haven't checked my computer = in a week which is why
I'm coming to this conversation so late. I've = been in West = Virginia, of all
places, visiting relatives = of relatives. I brought my 22' scale lap steel
and borrowed Rick's = Vox DA-5 and took a line 6 dl-4 to keep myself amused.
Actually, if = you think about it, A DA-5 could make a pretty cool first stage
as it = has a line/phone out that you could feed the M-13 in either mono = or
stereo. If you don't have an issue with the "feel" of modeling = amps, I'd
give either solution a try.
Bill


tEd R = KiLLiAn wrote:
> Yeah, it's really too bad that there's no also a = single-device solution 
> for a stereo amp = simulator to go along with this device.
> 

Well, I obviuosly = you know best what you need to achieve...but...

Rather than put = two amp sims after the fx, surely it would 
be neater to put one = amp sim between guitar and fx.

That gives you more options for = combining sounds, and doesn't
mush up the layers = together.

andy


= --Apple-Mail-2--154986280-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 05:26:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C143C3BE7E; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 05:26:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:29:44 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V09 #517 In-reply-to: <20090702020643.D2EBE3BE86@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090702-0, 02/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <20090702020643.D2EBE3BE86@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 05:26:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: ubuntu based rig =46rom: michael noble Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:04:27 +0900 >I know when I used windows I spent a long time tweaking this and >that to get the system to run efficiently - but once it is setup and you >have a working system, and so long as you resist temptation to tinker >further, then it just keeps working. Hi there Michael Which Windows version(s) are you referring to here? Thanks -- G. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 06:21:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1624F3BE7C; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 06:21:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:references; bh=Ti32WGdIno+fNrGjEGi0ssciwOa/p+W+f643rIMDoP0=; b=EzbgZAh+OzpqewrQl02jsL7Sl/7AvwdewLtqxrjvrqZVfXfEY3qZnLyrIHax/v3Ioo Wl9wtuGlCySFXxvbxZ8TXmPGzwJh4LSuuu+2uR4hqZjsNO16yYWSYNCb/NuKmhM6PpLL nrifUxOIFz0+gnpQoi7AjZdy7nwoRlYuNTH20= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; b=mFzRAvLzsSGNvGSm1eau0Ic5GsmIzNxnsigQCYsU5g96PIEHrISsXqWvpTP7iu0stR FfEdBix86lUQB5ic9RgAHlO5T5tgl0OPaQ8ScgNdtx5rTSOpioefHRuWSiEAuCmLFxRt 5W19VOEx+OMoCs8VFH5ViHrSfMK0O72eSOGCo= Message-Id: <9EA8D709-795D-44D7-BE37-F4AB40573B8D@gmail.com> From: Mark Sottilaro To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A341) Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V09 #517 Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:21:04 -0700 References: <20090702020643.D2EBE3BE86@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 06:21:11 +0000 (UTC) Vista was a giant pain at first, but once I beat it down it's actually pretty good. Sweetwater's got a good f.a.q. About optimization on their site. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:29 PM, G wrote: > Subject: Re: ubuntu based rig > From: michael noble > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:04:27 +0900 >> I know when I used windows I spent a long time tweaking this and >> that to get the system to run efficiently - but once it is setup >> and you >> have a working system, and so long as you resist temptation to tinker >> further, then it just keeps working. > > Hi there Michael > Which Windows version(s) are you referring to here? > Thanks > -- G. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 06:32:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 523583BE7F; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 06:32:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 439 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:32:56 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:references; bh=5+bjW1gcfBRO1egZaVhNszZ5LjUt94wdIPdHPGx9gSg=; b=aW5rDo79EIrM+hBM6WmI4ZyCKkGeE6DC9JXGdgM+NglorejeR1URqr0f8khsJUvRfo mNQYnQZRR7YYou7OARFWUrCAq6aT8Bo4g6t1Ztd7/ZtcuQ1uX8MIrhbjqafGeM8K/Fjk pCQ848aDhl3K+Fm9p7aYNCp6LO+UuCD08j0Ss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; b=qPz4zFkt7t+PeHy7bcMspFgxI1jInKUKUEx2fs5h/EyhjwdbeoJ855asUO5kOpS8iL 5PT4mjJWG8e354qLRm2l1ii6PNwho+azdfz0ikuA60LaLw0FczOZAzbf6lUPVc3C6hB8 sKENexEYUGIMoI7Xz/5TY+R6FBbHNmCwcEuLs= Message-Id: <28750547-B901-40A0-B77A-0C3DE5EBD270@gmail.com> From: Mark Sottilaro To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0907021940p64e2e5e8u6c9e899d8d28448a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A341) Subject: Re: OT: Native Instruments deal Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:25:29 -0700 References: <7761A6B4-5DA2-4012-906E-E90157D0FCB9@gmail.com> <588ce11d0907021940p64e2e5e8u6c9e899d8d28448a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 06:32:57 +0000 (UTC) Of all the NI stuff battery is one of my favorites, but I hate guitar rig's models. It does have great effects though. I think you'll be surprised at how useful kore is. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Art Simon wrote: > Wow, just got it, thanks. $335 is really a steal. > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Andy Roberts > wrote: >> Newb here - I bought in on this today from Musician's Friend Pro Shop >> with a $65 additional discount (by entering 'MINE' at the second >> coupon >> promt during the order process). >> >> Yup, Komplete for $335 with free shipping to boot. >> >> Really lookin' forward to using Guitar Rig and Battery with >> Ableton!!! >> >> Back to lurking and learning :) >> >> Drew >> >> >> >> On Jul 2, 2009, at 4:41 PM, Mark Sottilaro >> wrote: >> >>> For those who succumbed to the machine world: >>> >>> http://www.zzounds.com/item--NINKOMPLETE2 >>> >>> That's a kick ass little deal. >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 11:32:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B8D23BE7E; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=WpF0wsVx4qSZ+O0F11vJa/vZQeBrjhPlCkhnyFF0gH8=; b=IT/R9rc5s5RITnwjbjoXlxLnE7906Y2+ArutscO17lBbJ8fsPI7JF3u0V2xPqm5wsG QosjcNU3Yacv0EmhF00zdjvnLtqqBMbo8h9zmWzUlSweAzzW07AcHz3EBDHiNTO/gww2 XUg6csdc/n+hfDAFrhcwCZ8H0/d12QoDRo2nc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=mhecNaRKTrSufkc6QmLlnfSCjuzBwTB9/fdTpypNsCU3oN9vbGOJsZOEDdT841pEPl ID5+8iszPRQDpXFhdCkXsPWTAg8uO7LvUryTs77LUHHePA9KWn8r5//2x0ynFu8RMNvH +s3tYBT6W3RkXShMbaeegjaScV1kecV8UYx6U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7761A6B4-5DA2-4012-906E-E90157D0FCB9@gmail.com> From: Andy Roberts Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:23:40 -0400 Message-ID: <7d2794000907030423p44ca7dd3r4247cffcfdfd6686@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Native Instruments deal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175ca984973aeb046dcb64cc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:32:09 +0000 (UTC) --0015175ca984973aeb046dcb64cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If anyone is looking for that Komplete deal, here is the link: http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Native-Instruments-Komplete-5?sku=702965#new During the purchasing process, you will be prompted twice for coupon codes, at the second prompt, enter 'MINE' for a $65 discount. Drew --0015175ca984973aeb046dcb64cc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If anyone is looking for that Komplete deal, here is the link:

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During the purchasing process, you will be prompted twice for coupon co= des, at the second prompt, enter 'MINE' for a $65 discount.

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--0015175ca984973aeb046dcb64cc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 13:29:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 723193BE80; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:29:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:29:07 EDT Subject: Re: ot.....mac question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d38.5000af01.377f61a3_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.139 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:29:16 +0000 (UTC) --part1_d38.5000af01.377f61a3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well tedzo.....that is indeed a stick in the eye.....what a corncept, buil= t in obsolesence.....what will they think of next?.....:).....they will burn= in hell!!!!!.....anyway, i was thinking of the imac with the 24' screen,= don't really need a laptop, anyone have any thoughts on this machine?.....= my primary use of this will be for "visuals" movies, pictures etc., i do not= use a puter for music.....how's this for a second stick in the eye, i just won= a "CompColl=A0Complete Composer's Collection" (the east west collection) fro= m sweetwater.....i have no idea what this is but i bet one needs a puter to= make it work.....yipeeee.....i am a winner indeed!.....a big THANKS to all= for your help, no movies for this guy.....:(m=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** It's raining cats and dogs -- Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule! (http://www.pawnation.com/?ncid=3Demlcntnew00000008) --part1_d38.5000af01.377f61a3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well tedzo.....that is indeed a sti= ck in the eye.....what a corncept, built in obsolesence.....what will they= think of next?.....:).....they will burn in hell!!!!!.....anyway, i was= thinking of the imac with the 24' screen, don't really need a laptop, any= one have any thoughts on this machine?.....my primary use of this will be= for "visuals" movies, pictures etc., i do not use a puter for music.....h= ow's this for a second stick in the eye, i just won a "CompColl=A0Com= plete Composer's Collection" (the east west collection) from sweetwater...= ..i have no idea what this is but i bet one needs a puter to make it work.= ....yipeeee.....i am a winner indeed!.....a big THANKS to all for your hel= p, no movies for this guy.....:(m=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0



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It's raining cats and dogs --= Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule! (http://www.pawnation.com/?nc= id=3Demlcntnew00000008) --part1_d38.5000af01.377f61a3_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 13:41:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 424793BE7C; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:41:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 344 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:41:16 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0hsWZwrzde8DaIb9FOFV5eFPCx5mqD6KWXEZrwnqZ+c=; b=LphHpaXudCv6Acox9yMbjricSIlrGv9yoKY8X86KyENyudy/igsYpP0qerP9a31/Sz sMeYrFPgWsa4VMaCgE7ffXRX5D2QNmeZRsNOEuxcF2UqGmNfhJRdCUazf+bI76ykacOJ AIp3pv8sK90IlB/L38UZj6r5qEuOcaEe4wWp0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fY5EpSe+4hsDizmZ42QbrUx+JpcmlpsSpQ49o5VFYF0Yup4ff7YhTca2rMXhWnVyP4 UmfYAAuqfJBJp/VwD40qCudHcgzOTVhVUhfQ3ybSzFks4+nGjX81q9+vZhrSlXIDoa+l ZP5+EQ+CYQ17epdLnFy5OxdEJqvikt2ws1cyQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9EA8D709-795D-44D7-BE37-F4AB40573B8D@gmail.com> References: <20090702020643.D2EBE3BE86@arsenic.violacea.com> <9EA8D709-795D-44D7-BE37-F4AB40573B8D@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 06:35:32 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0907030635r482fb51dtdbea89c8db7f876f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V09 #517 From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:41:17 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Mark, I hadn't seen this. Here's the link if anyone else is interes= ted: http://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/ts/detail.php?Index=3D31969&keyword=3Dv= ista On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Mark Sottilaro wro= te: > Vista was a giant pain at first, but once I beat it down it's actually > pretty good. =A0Sweetwater's got a good f.a.q. About optimization on thei= r > site. > > Sent from my iPhone --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 13:44:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FB813BE81; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:44:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:43:47 EDT Subject: Re: ot.....mac question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c8d.49891391.377f6513_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.137 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:44:41 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c8d.49891391.377f6513_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit holy shit!.....i just did the google on the compcall collection that i won.....what insanity, it lists for $1495.00.....that's like giving helen keller a hubble telescope! or giving me a pair of gucci running shoes!.....yes kiddies, the scoots is a weiner, i mean winner!.....:)m "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** It's raining cats and dogs -- Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule! (http://www.pawnation.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000008) --part1_c8d.49891391.377f6513_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable holy shit!.....i just did the googl= e on the compcall collection that i won.....what insanity, it lists for $1= 495.00.....that's like giving helen keller a hubble telescope! or giving= me a pair of gucci running shoes!.....yes kiddies, the scoots is a weiner= , i mean winner!.....:)m



"EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater

new groovy tunes at:
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www.ct-collective.com





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It's raining cats and dogs --= Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule! (http://www.pawnation.com/?nc= id=3Demlcntnew00000008) --part1_c8d.49891391.377f6513_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 13:54:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7C913BE82; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:54:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246629253; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=kvfsrzZ/llbCtRPX82x6DbgZ+j0=; b=IN+3QXyXIsIqylZdWt/H0+QtqHx91dWb7BvMxTzmUj7/ZOnfjees22/q6+YOSVeT pLZKqsRsYdHsPHJJxioYMWiZj5Lsn9U4m74m3l067CktQx4WLMjozz7y7tVXgDTg; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=nEJoZ4RnAAAA:8 a=x3XYMmiGAAAA:8 a=1FnxPKumqVNP_wHdH8EA:9 a=EFtujHt-1LBnlB3U59MA:7 a=hXCasuWXxSWy2_bOajLEPGb0s1AA:4 a=1BeEXqUnHnUA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=7W0eWqQwj4dXiL4-:21 a=XDp63McL_xmLSWeq:21 a=-wClw6yJ8-s6zkwSNnEA:9 a=1cPWe9jc37RZtcL-nPMA:7 a=hxx4JEp9WLQbwUGxIOvp8FIhj54A:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000c01c9fbe5$bebdc480$85822245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: Subject: Re: ot.....mac question Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:54:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9FBC4.37670530" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:54:13 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9FBC4.37670530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey maybe ypu can sell it and buy a 'puter! J>) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nemoguitt@aol.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: Re: ot.....mac question holy shit!.....i just did the google on the compcall collection that i = won.....what insanity, it lists for $1495.00.....that's like giving = helen keller a hubble telescope! or giving me a pair of gucci running = shoes!.....yes kiddies, the scoots is a weiner, i mean winner!.....:)m "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** It's raining cats and dogs -- Come to PawNation, a place where pets = rule! (http://www.pawnation.com/?ncid=3Demlcntnew00000008) ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9FBC4.37670530 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey maybe ypu can sell it and buy a=20 'puter!
 
J>)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Nemoguitt@aol.com
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Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 = 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: ot.....mac = question

holy shit!.....i just did the google on = the compcall=20 collection that i won.....what insanity, it lists for = $1495.00.....that's like=20 giving helen keller a hubble telescope! or giving me a pair of gucci = running=20 shoes!.....yes kiddies, the scoots is a weiner, i mean=20 winner!.....:)m



"EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS = WRONG".....firesign=20 theater

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It's raining = cats and=20 dogs -- Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule!=20 (http://www.pawnation.com/?ncid=3Demlcntnew00000008)=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9FBC4.37670530-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 15:22:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 461BD3BE77; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=v5e2q8pDUbV93UE8IfzNAjuWUdL88pskBYDlT7JDjQc=; b=xKWcw1fFeFOXxfajit8fOfRnW7vdvn6g4CtmHAVIpE2f1aC3bTT2CUdBzJDCWuakt6 p++tZzFz1bBNdmbZMLEfI2S7W1YZB+sVmmskx8tHLCSA/niMtif5UIdyQGoqL+qBP5kc 6Hl7KAvhiabNOzRqYoEv53rjHUzDAUR4M0uc4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KW19Q6wv+IMlYIVO7UJhS+3uJaCND+31jkPfBF4ct5PmowYO1WCe1WU1xe03Y2flJJ YOwlk4Bl72rH5WtLlbh9ZxdrkWlVWBj6DmilUEocsZcLDfPV2AP56EwoLoo8l6zDWFJK 3YoTSGqNeSXaslX2A0KmVFUWassobDPdMYeBM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000c01c9fbe5$bebdc480$85822245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000c01c9fbe5$bebdc480$85822245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:22:13 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ot.....mac question From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:22:14 +0000 (UTC) My wife has the smaller iMac and she loves it. She initially switched to an iBook from an IBM Thinkpad and was so into it she got the iMac for her photos and multimedia projects. My boss just bought the one you're considering after having been a PC guy for years and he has nothing but great things to say about it. Check out the new iLive 09. They've put in some amazing features. http://www.apple.com/ilife/ Say what you like about Apples, but they actually come with software you'll use. Ever use or buy any of the bloatware that comes on a PC? On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > hey maybe ypu can sell it and buy a 'puter! > > J>) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nemoguitt@aol.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 9:43 AM > Subject: Re: ot.....mac question > holy shit!.....i just did the google on the compcall collection that i > won.....what insanity, it lists for $1495.00.....that's like giving helen > keller a hubble telescope! or giving me a pair of gucci running > shoes!.....yes kiddies, the scoots is a weiner, i mean winner!.....:)m > > > > "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater > > new groovy tunes at: > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 > www.ct-collective.com > > > > > > ************** > It's raining cats and dogs -- Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule! > (http://www.pawnation.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000008) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 15:25:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27A573BE7C; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:25:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=olrjbZ0vrQBw5sx+NjkVC+zdwe+HnCtdgcPa6f//T9Q=; b=xvYH0RAheOdrXWCUV8Qo2vmNl2yKSvTcv7MhoEO+pGs/KpcZaMja4ibSAaEXvo+07x WJ/Wqiimf2T/wC8TnNRTP/2J7OnuvGQqjT4ROZGewx+QTrs2IFlA89WnVSCayzgr3Ol6 DuV/oTfH1h+keHha+aHBBdk/eDHv30/BpZdU0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DzAWyryff/6KGC/zS5vLH78zwnATj8E/TaE0V4cBcaAe6rVU88d8kdCkA4hQxT/8XG fht0zT8sr+BVnqDBFQx9s3rNJqW0wNqcSrdGEKUX65vgsXsWA6vfViobOuG2ioH1XwwD NAeXdEHrurx40ha1Wf7pwktBV68hBNsEW7GbQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0907030635r482fb51dtdbea89c8db7f876f@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090702020643.D2EBE3BE86@arsenic.violacea.com> <9EA8D709-795D-44D7-BE37-F4AB40573B8D@gmail.com> <588ce11d0907030635r482fb51dtdbea89c8db7f876f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:25:28 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V09 #517 From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5XROVB.A.T_H.pLiTKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:25:29 +0000 (UTC) Oh yeah, that's the one I used. The only thing I did is I did end up turning off UAC but I protect myself pretty well by not using the web except for authorization. Other things that helped with some authorization schemes was making sure the VST folder isn't in your programs folder and making those folders read/write. On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Art Simon wrote: > Thanks Mark, I =A0hadn't seen this. Here's the link if anyone else is int= erested: > http://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/ts/detail.php?Index=3D31969&keyword= =3Dvista > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Mark Sottilaro w= rote: >> Vista was a giant pain at first, but once I beat it down it's actually >> pretty good. =A0Sweetwater's got a good f.a.q. About optimization on the= ir >> site. >> >> Sent from my iPhone > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 15:43:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABB503BE77; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:43:00 EDT Subject: Re: ot.....mac question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c53.5080aa84.377f8104_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: <2iFXuD.A.Hm.XciTKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:43:19 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c53.5080aa84.377f8104_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/3/09 9:54:29 AM, jeff_d@embarqmail.com writes: > hey maybe ypu can sell it and buy a 'puter! > krazy!.....jeffe, i don't even know what this thing is but it sure as hell lists for a lot of money.....this is my thought exactlly.....i can just see taking a LONDON PHILHARMONIC or whatever patch and sending it thru my BITRMAN.....yoweeeee!.....the children of the world will knell before my mighty sound!.....i wonder if it has peter, paul and mary patches in it?.....gads! i don't even know if it got's patches.....:)m "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** It's raining cats and dogs -- Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule! (http://www.pawnation.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000008) --part1_c53.5080aa84.377f8104_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 7/3/09 9:54:29 AM, jeff_d@embarqmail.com writes:


hey maybe ypu= can sell it and buy a 'puter!

krazy!.....jeffe, i don't even know what this thing is but it sure= as hell lists for a lot of money.....this is my thought exactlly.....i ca= n just see taking a LONDON PHILHARMONIC or whatever patch and sending it= thru my BITRMAN.....yoweeeee!.....the children of the world will knell be= fore my mighty sound!.....i wonder if it has peter, paul and mary patches= in it?.....gads! i don't even know if it got's patches.....:)m







"EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater

new groovy tunes at:
http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
www.ct-collective.com





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It's raining cats and dogs --= Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule! (http://www.pawnation.com/?nc= id=3Demlcntnew00000008) --part1_c53.5080aa84.377f8104_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 15:52:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80E6D3BE79; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:52:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 402 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:52:19 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3ErmKtUKMbF67QSPoPZgFBuNbh/HQEF+AUZdrMVZUfo=; b=kA10vhDFgcgAzPANtOVAeP0iHjLRDNyyui2Zng+xWRGLvfGon6qmhe+UbSdHweaEYk ekqfBX5F0Mu2mpR+NxVl5Ch96ktH2q0bFNjg//tt3Wl1ysKBHEAi972dhWSut1FbTWRq 5ZsekuYswcYFad2/+oboldtapZMh1lHFFIa7g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uXihs3hd9xrFRkwoLVZS3aYzg87PZ7bWg7gfk356Lp8kem6mhbM7vRTQAWZ51eVjer Ql9whtMT+uHpnV8NKapw13m6rBREVF3hAFdpVBEyp1Y8CXH4KWUOeKYeYiZqTfkU5n92 muXUJYUQeI869u2uI3RwfYH/dQDJ9d2/Az0Uo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:45:35 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907030845p7d8f28deu44511e4c3ec426c5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ot.....mac question From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a57b1f836b046dcf0c79 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:52:20 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a57b1f836b046dcf0c79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael and all I was relooking at this earlier this morning and thinking okay he's still got Jaguar and there were changes from there to Tiger but totally outdated hw seems extreme not to debate Ted but I thought okay what about has he done his software updates or could he just be missing the admin login prompt for new installs. Probably neither but from there I browsed the Adobe forums and found this which seems like it might be the solution and save you some quid as they say. Here's what I found... 1. Apr 7, 2009 2:51 PM in response to: canuck222 *Re: FP9 for OSX 10.1-10.3 won't install on 10.3.9 * Go to HD/Library/Internet Plug-Ins folder and delete "Flash Player.plugin" as well as "flashplayer.xpt". Download dmg file from Adobe site and save to disc. Quit any browsers you have open. Double click on dmg file. that opens a folder which contains "Flash Player.plugin" and "flashplayer.xpt" ... drag both into the Internet Plug-Ins folder. Do a restart and you should be in business! the actual link to the above is http://forums.adobe.com/thread/415443;jsessionid=3D5B36974427A92D43663CE464E9023D.node0?tstart=1 again I don't mean to kick sand in anyone's face and too I initially happily went about talking about finding a new machine anyhow Michael/Ted hope this might work out. If you need further help navigating the above let me know. Happy 4th and best Jim On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM, wrote: > i can not view videos anymore and my puter keeps telling me to dl flash > player 9 because my osx is 10.3.9.....when i do this and try to open flash > player i get this message "the destination folder (adobe flash player 9) is > on a locked volume. Please select another destination.".....can anyone help > me?.....off list of course.....thanks.....m > > > > "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater > > new groovy tunes at: > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 > www.ct-collective.com > > > > > > ************** > It's raining cats and dogs -- Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule! ( > http://www.pawnation.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000008) -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a57b1f836b046dcf0c79 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael and all I was relooking at this earlier this morning and thinking o= kay he's still got Jaguar and there were changes from there to Tiger bu= t totally outdated hw seems extreme not to debate Ted but I thought okay wh= at about has he done his software updates or could he just be missing the a= dmin login prompt for new installs. =A0Probably neither but from there I br= owsed the Adobe forums and found this which seems like it might be the solu= tion and save you some quid as they say.

Here's what I found...

1.=A0Apr= 7, 2009 2:51 PM=A03D""=A0in response to:=A0canuck222
Re: FP9 for OSX 10.1-10.3 w= on't install on 10.3.9

Go to HD/Library/In= ternet Plug-Ins folder and delete "Flash Player.plugin" as well a= s "flashplayer.xpt".

Download dmg file f= rom Adobe site and save to disc. Quit any browsers you have open. Double cl= ick on dmg file. that opens a folder which contains "Flash Player.plug= in" and "flashplayer.xpt" ... drag both into the Internet Pl= ug-Ins folder. Do a restart and you should be in business!

=A0

the actual link to the above is=A0htt= p://forums.adobe.com/thread/415443;jsessionid=3D3D5B36974427A92D43663CE464E= 9023D.node0?tstart=3D1




again I don't mean to ki= ck sand in anyone's face and too I initially happily went about talking= about finding a new machine anyhow Michael/Ted hope this might work out. = =A0If you need further help navigating the above let me know.

Happy 4th and best

Jim
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM, <Nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
i can not view videos anymore and m= y puter keeps telling me to dl flash player 9 because my osx is 10.3.9.....= when i do this and try to open flash player i get this message "the de= stination folder (adobe flash player 9) is on a locked volume. Please selec= t another destination.".....can anyone help me?.....off list of course= .....thanks.....m



"EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater

new groovy tunes at:
http://www= .myspace.com/klobuchar10
www.ct-collectiv= e.com




**************
It's raining cats and dogs -- Come to PawNation, a = place where pets rule! (http://www.pawnation.com/?ncid=3Demlcntnew000= 00008)



--
ReUse, an intros= pective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--001636c5a57b1f836b046dcf0c79-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 15:58:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C52873BE84; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:57:52 EDT Subject: Re: ot.....mac question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c68.4f62c50d.377f8480_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:58:08 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c68.4f62c50d.377f8480_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/3/09 11:52:54 AM, jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com writes: > Here's what I found... > thanks jim.....i did this several daze ago and it did not work.....did i mention that I HATE COMPUTERS.....:)m "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** It's raining cats and dogs -- Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule! (http://www.pawnation.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000008) --part1_c68.4f62c50d.377f8480_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 7/3/09 11:52:54 AM, jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com writes:

Here's what= I found...


thanks jim.....i did this several daze ago and it did not work.....= did i mention that I HATE COMPUTERS.....:)m



"EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater

new groovy tunes at:
http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
www.ct-collective.com





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It's raining cats and dogs --= Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule! (http://www.pawnation.com/?nc= id=3Demlcntnew00000008) --part1_c68.4f62c50d.377f8480_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 16:04:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97B0B3BE89; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:04:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wpLvJaqkegv7FCJUGBDd3q7FX9u22monvQicFUBYvnw=; b=L2RxyFIAn5wg0JzpuaKy/s7C9Pqiwbp2kkJNzwdnf6kH738LQNCRB/OejKjzjfC+1R FrfUe2ivC3+b4SOyxGdPM/WizakiJjSOITBarGgYRYHnI5Fxz9NJVWt13NyjeZM7psjk oeyd81dkri9sOTj+1rHa9YXKEafW4vK7TyOKk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=mOSKHkz/T+fUPY4B9U4rJVZ92meZInOsgc4UmBjjUWaVY1nGOz8teYb6bZyFCCPw7y nDsCyT8lbOr7NG08ASINnPjWen7Wvs9+is+5gz+Gh/SzIhSloHR9k4BOb9pYzoisa55r 0gv1mnuv2YmSAnNglCwOCHfc3R7p6y61Os3cQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:04:02 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907030904j4f809ddaie69be3c051890346@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ot.....mac question From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502d6c4116073046dcf4ea3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:04:03 +0000 (UTC) --00504502d6c4116073046dcf4ea3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael Flash can be an illusive rabbit. I went through something similar as I recall on my son's first Mac with a website that needed a particular flavor of Flash. It was quite back/forth but finally Safari updated properly which are you using it or Firefox as that may be part of the issue. I tend to not like Firefox but I'm a bit strange by many. So far I've been comfortable with Safari and am on v 4.0. After dong the routine you rebooted, cleared browser cache, etc. no? also for Flash audio problems there was some deal where Flash would stop doing audio and killing your browser, started Garageband would resolve it. Doubt any relation re video but computers are strange sometimes. I just really find it hard to believe here that the only solution is buy a new machine. Have you done all your Apple sw updates particularly with you running a dated OS? Also what about upgrading to Tiger. I could share a copy with you if it's difficult to get. Jim On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:57 AM, wrote: > > In a message dated 7/3/09 11:52:54 AM, jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com writes: > > > Here's what I found... > > > thanks jim.....i did this several daze ago and it did not work.....did i > mention that I HATE COMPUTERS.....:)m > > > > "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater > > new groovy tunes at: > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 > www.ct-collective.com > > > > > > ************** > It's raining cats and dogs -- Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule! ( > http://www.pawnation.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000008) > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --00504502d6c4116073046dcf4ea3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Flash can be an illusive rabbit. =A0I went through something simila= r as I recall on my son's first Mac with a website that needed a partic= ular flavor of Flash. =A0It was quite back/forth but finally Safari updated= properly which are you using it or Firefox as that may be part of the issu= e. =A0I tend to not like Firefox but I'm a bit strange by many. =A0So f= ar I've been comfortable with Safari and am on v 4.0.

After dong the routine you rebooted, cleared browser cache, = etc. =A0no? =A0also for Flash audio problems there was some deal where Flas= h would stop doing audio and killing your browser, started Garageband would= resolve it. =A0Doubt any relation re video but computers are strange somet= imes. =A0

I just really find it hard to believe here that the onl= y solution is buy a new machine. =A0Have you done all your Apple sw updates= particularly with you running a dated OS? =A0Also what about upgrading to = Tiger. =A0I could share a copy with you if it's difficult to get.

Jim

On Fri, Jul 3, 20= 09 at 11:57 AM, <Nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:

In a message dated 7/3/09 11:52:54 AM, jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com writes:


Here's what I found...


thanks jim.= ....i did this several daze ago and it did not work.....did i mention that = I HATE COMPUTERS.....:)m




"EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater

new groovy tunes at:
http://www= .myspace.com/klobuchar10
www.ct-collectiv= e.com





**************
It's raining cats and dogs = -- Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule! (http://www.pawnation.= com/?ncid=3Demlcntnew00000008)



--
ReUse, an = introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

--00504502d6c4116073046dcf4ea3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 16:48:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6847F3BE78; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:48:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3605 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:48:13 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_hL//+zrMGVOWFdLNaF1GKw)" References: <7761A6B4-5DA2-4012-906E-E90157D0FCB9@gmail.com> <7d2794000907030423p44ca7dd3r4247cffcfdfd6686@mail.gmail.com> Message-id: <55EB5810-F80B-4639-A756-8E9F62503E51@mac.com> From: Andy Schoen To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-reply-to: <7d2794000907030423p44ca7dd3r4247cffcfdfd6686@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Subject: Re: OT: Native Instruments deal Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:47:44 -0700 Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:48:13 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_hL//+zrMGVOWFdLNaF1GKw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hey there, isn't this software dongle based? Don't you need a dongle to operate it? I fear the almighty dongle! Andy To listen to some of my music please visit: www.untitledvisions.com It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe! On Jul 3, 2009, at 4:23 AM, Andy Roberts wrote: > If anyone is looking for that Komplete deal, here is the link: > > http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Native-Instruments-Komplete-5?sku=702965#new > > During the purchasing process, you will be prompted twice for coupon > codes, at the second prompt, enter 'MINE' for a $65 discount. > > Drew > --Boundary_(ID_hL//+zrMGVOWFdLNaF1GKw) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Hey there, isn't this software = dongle based?  Don't you need a dongle to operate it?  I fear = the almighty = dongle!

Andy



To = listen to some of my music please visit: www.untitledvisions.com
It's a Rock-N-Roll = Universe!

On Jul 3, 2009, at 4:23 AM, Andy = Roberts <acroberts@gmail.com> = wrote:

If anyone = is looking for that Komplete deal, here is the link:

http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Na= tive-Instruments-Komplete-5?sku=3D702965#new

During the purchasing process, you will be prompted twice for coupon = codes, at the second prompt, enter 'MINE' for a $65 = discount.

Drew

= --Boundary_(ID_hL//+zrMGVOWFdLNaF1GKw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 17:09:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5BB63BE75; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uvqsu9s+vcH6yLYwG0PyMgF2mE+6iszKlS9O3rR0SAc=; b=ml/KUTsS5jWi+SPg2rs+QPSWO5ioX+/IEfo1xR98zlTty936DwjoKwOerypa1nxzFu T2txg5tPySd6+2cIJJNtmwmYtUW2SamD4THLCE3mNKOKjrrTlgni2NrW0Jo6/anYrSeM X6zUM566C72Jm7ObemaVfhYnkzrsPJ+da9kbQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UMi3AXQ70aZxuLMadhtM/gJ0zvFdyy6Daui7bT54XRNoGjVNIl8BLbh4N+v7GvF/9I kOeqDwiOqhSRRTIHl4ldClcmTPQTwjyvHXa6Zsb8wSdBD3F4qdaV7sPhd5oI2nfKBOdu F6fHXUuBuauFjNHpEIdRS6kz7m3zGcDabjXk4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55EB5810-F80B-4639-A756-8E9F62503E51@mac.com> References: <7761A6B4-5DA2-4012-906E-E90157D0FCB9@gmail.com> <7d2794000907030423p44ca7dd3r4247cffcfdfd6686@mail.gmail.com> <55EB5810-F80B-4639-A756-8E9F62503E51@mac.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:09:59 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907031009g177545abwf353877f2f440416@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Native Instruments deal From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <3tM-QD.A.QXD.ntjTKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:09:59 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Andy Schoen wrote: > Hey there, isn't this software dongle based? =C2=A0Don't you need a dongl= e to > operate it? =C2=A0I fear the almighty dongle! > Andy No. Native Instruments authorizes your computer. I rather prefer "dongle" though. I've recently started using an iLok to keep my licenses safe and be able to quickly install everything on any new laptop I may be forced to switch to by accident. The insurance for the option to get a replacement iLok right away from any music store "on the road" is only $30 a year. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 17:17:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 561583BE7C; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 367 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:17:41 UTC Message-ID: <7864BF552E374981AFAA9AB5393ED8F1@D30WYQ3J> From: "Jay Bell" To: References: <7761A6B4-5DA2-4012-906E-E90157D0FCB9@gmail.com> <7d2794000907030423p44ca7dd3r4247cffcfdfd6686@mail.gmail.com> <55EB5810-F80B-4639-A756-8E9F62503E51@mac.com> Subject: Name that looping vid/artist Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:11:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C9FC09.B83A3F20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=WhUhGm8lCvoMbTlvbYAA:9 a=X3L-97lE4vwa_Nix-h8uy5xIj2IA:4 a=8fBBMOBptqtmMiSKD70A:9 a=Kp2tNUkpdcLqJTNzs9wA:7 a=9euIDWm_9p9Ke1eHtf0T9sbmF6wA:4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:17:42 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C9FC09.B83A3F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Some time ago there was a "live" looping performance... it was set in = some guys apartment, he played drums, guitars, as well as making = percussion sounds out of spoons, coffee machines etc. Does anyone = remember it? I remember there was some controversy over whether or not = it was a real live performance... but it was cute nonetheless. Anyone = remember the name of the artist? Many thanks Jay ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C9FC09.B83A3F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
Some time ago there was a "live" = looping=20 performance... it was set in some guys apartment, he played drums, = guitars, as=20 well as making percussion sounds out of spoons, coffee machines etc. = Does anyone=20 remember it? I remember there was some controversy over whether or not = it was a=20 real live performance... but it was cute nonetheless. Anyone remember = the name=20 of the artist?
 
Many thanks
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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C9FC09.B83A3F20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 17:33:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59DB53BE7C; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:33:24 UTC Message-ID: <4A4E3F49.3010907@flyloops.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:26:33 -0700 From: Aaron Leese User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Name that looping vid/artist References: <7761A6B4-5DA2-4012-906E-E90157D0FCB9@gmail.com> <7d2794000907030423p44ca7dd3r4247cffcfdfd6686@mail.gmail.com> <55EB5810-F80B-4639-A756-8E9F62503E51@mac.com> <7864BF552E374981AFAA9AB5393ED8F1@D30WYQ3J> In-Reply-To: <7864BF552E374981AFAA9AB5393ED8F1@D30WYQ3J> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, that was David Ford doing "go to hell" ... the link is now dead, and I couldn't find it on youtube ... so you may be out of luck if you wanted to see it again. per the live/not discussion ... I'll cast a vote for not ....well ... not live in one take ..... there are parts that come in/fade out without any help from him, and a number of camera cuts that would mean that if it were one take it would be a number of cameras ...... but hey, you never know. I havea feeling it was all recorded that day with a lot of loops, and then he is just walking around and recreating the experience for the camera. Jay Bell wrote: > Hi all, > > Some time ago there was a "live" looping performance... it was set in > some guys apartment, he played drums, guitars, as well as making > percussion sounds out of spoons, coffee machines etc. Does anyone > remember it? I remember there was some controversy over whether or not > it was a real live performance... but it was cute nonetheless. Anyone > remember the name of the artist? > > Many thanks > Jay From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 19:20:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C55343BE7F; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:20:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <79780D0167504987AFF146FB13819C85@D30WYQ3J> From: "Jay Bell" To: References: <7761A6B4-5DA2-4012-906E-E90157D0FCB9@gmail.com> <7d2794000907030423p44ca7dd3r4247cffcfdfd6686@mail.gmail.com> <55EB5810-F80B-4639-A756-8E9F62503E51@mac.com> <7864BF552E374981AFAA9AB5393ED8F1@D30WYQ3J> <4A4E3F49.3010907@flyloops.com> Subject: Re: Name that looping vid/artist Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:20:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=uBE2YReSAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=yZ4RISQeE8voXX-4wHoA:9 a=Y9QRoR7zJe2HRZ-fKkp8kFda4SgA:4 a=cQNYbXzlZ80A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=-1ZwQBY0Qg2klhU4:21 a=kTrC8m24-CRkfN-H:21 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:20:07 +0000 (UTC) Excellent! Thankyou so much... First link I tried complained about copyright restrictions (in the UK) but this one worked http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0vcxA29okM --jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Leese" To: Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Name that looping vid/artist > > Yeah, that was David Ford doing "go to hell" ... the link is now dead, and > I couldn't find it on youtube ... so you may be out of luck if you wanted > to see it again. > per the live/not discussion ... I'll cast a vote for not ....well ... not > live in one take ..... there are parts that come in/fade out without any > help from him, and a number of camera cuts that would mean that if it were > one take it would be a number of cameras ...... but hey, you never know. > I havea feeling it was all recorded that day with a lot of loops, and then > he is just walking around and recreating the experience for the camera. > > > Jay Bell wrote: >> Hi all, >> Some time ago there was a "live" looping performance... it was set in >> some guys apartment, he played drums, guitars, as well as making >> percussion sounds out of spoons, coffee machines etc. Does anyone >> remember it? I remember there was some controversy over whether or not it >> was a real live performance... but it was cute nonetheless. Anyone >> remember the name of the artist? >> Many thanks >> Jay > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 19:34:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3F5F3BE79; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:34:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:34:49 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246649289; bh=d66+5brWI34kmvTGOH7Co1ORpA+X6BGz+upXJ4aMHb8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l9heWiQFGhEeXjvAM5E/0IwIbQuaRI+G6HQA2ldRca0rpBeeIgBliw07zxQUqM9ESVbWWs9122asxB9MmhKRX3vf8E1tY7nr9haVBy/b+ZefVSDAkc/Eu8svSsWaZWFhhL/XP+YRkH0kEKguP4qnp0sjpTvuRUO6DFtazOmXlXQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3SYX3fm0TDfgoggBtYGqPnDroaKcLtig6Oefu3Ljh8dSZKAw0FA1ebOaWSSdTaRls17S5rUxlTNIuuh4xzGGPPeTXYpmvherAUbpPGvZjqk81ZUkV78uSzKoVsR7vR77ea/93hmHh2oCX1TAd6KOlkKV8Y3yieFPkMKfv8hkUfM=; Message-ID: <770968.91356.qm@web45310.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JbCKU6kVM1mCIHsJTBbUqD.BLITp8wYPhjB.L4RYah_eT1.HMbm4I7YuklbtofDFMgfZ8yvui2_.4doOpvPH.vMT7_mdY5eaaeESiOUbKqjTFoemFViEK.DPfG8.mghAUbut5a0TsNlBIXRc2hm9iNO5EXA0lQ5fSJyVN3QShMd0u26RVio6EHBFCoMi7oVw4n7kMJBSQoB3.toI4npK6lucJYE03ifdaIlNDoM4BdzBc39Udf4Ra8vR3BjOpCpSvWFBgriUBj_jQM8vyEBJB9OXw.dKggVILr7kC4c4pkKJ5kWpz1nkk5Ldj4W0k_mHxA.XXRsnGlTcgpwXNXcRoVJKq.fKakF7va3N2p7iHg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:28:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Name that looping vid/artist To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <8SwZVC.A.0CG.Z1lTKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:34:49 +0000 (UTC) Nah, it's still on there... -t- --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Aaron Leese wrote: > Yeah, that was David Ford doing "go to hell" ... the link > is now dead, and I couldn't find it on youtube ... so you > may be out of luck if you wanted to see it again. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 22:57:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 036043BE72; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:57:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A4E4029.1020409@flyloops.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:30:17 -0700 From: Aaron Leese User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Name that looping vid/artist References: <7761A6B4-5DA2-4012-906E-E90157D0FCB9@gmail.com> <7d2794000907030423p44ca7dd3r4247cffcfdfd6686@mail.gmail.com> <55EB5810-F80B-4639-A756-8E9F62503E51@mac.com> <7864BF552E374981AFAA9AB5393ED8F1@D30WYQ3J> In-Reply-To: <7864BF552E374981AFAA9AB5393ED8F1@D30WYQ3J> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:57:08 +0000 (UTC) Oops, I lied ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x29l5eHHoXo And it is just one video take ... though I'll still go with it being put together/edited before the video was made ..... but still, who knows. Jay Bell wrote: > Hi all, > > Some time ago there was a "live" looping performance... it was set in > some guys apartment, he played drums, guitars, as well as making > percussion sounds out of spoons, coffee machines etc. Does anyone > remember it? I remember there was some controversy over whether or not > it was a real live performance... but it was cute nonetheless. Anyone > remember the name of the artist? > > Many thanks > Jay From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 3 23:29:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0D463BE7C; Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:29:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:33:01 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V09 #517 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090703-0, 03/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:29:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V09 #517 =46rom: Mark Sottilaro Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:21:04 -0700 >Vista was a giant pain at first, but once I beat it down it's actually =20 >pretty good. Sweetwater's got a good f.a.q. About optimization on =20 >their site. Thanks for that, -- G. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 01:54:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9145C3BE7C; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 01:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=GsrIHHFhwGB5C9qc4NUqC5j+3DW0AAcMTwAuigxYKps=; b=kV1gVYwiHWaZ8d+Dgfd8uCXpeOg5DZcbjAGNLNMi5plnyV6uGtu2Sbj5QHFa5NJU47 5FgOTe07xjp4W5bLkd+8KQe5nAmuR2nx8Mqw5rC9aK+ywI3lwOfvooRZc+SWpeC00I03 QXKBkUmgsU63cfDLvyLMB44vPLDBZaNwAuVGs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=OfObdikqTwzJZk+pojF3MU4O1j+ChGX8dNnfWgO/aol/9SFOY1fI2lQD7aDWVJYYiJ jVHzOUD7psymHvLo+Q2btTc10FjiJJ1YBUkY0vWuAk5slWu6QNV/AP70eFasPaJbuDOh 3vJLYP/VHxBFb2pGWl4OnkNl6pRtZaf4ibPiA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:54:46 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907031854p3a87d688yf57e595abb2f68b6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: GigSpam: spontaneous live on uStream From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a9ffbb7983046dd78eb4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 01:54:48 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a9ffbb7983046dd78eb4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been a bit down of late and this evening have finally felt like playing. I'm going to break my Sunday morning broadcast tradition with Sunday Morning at 11 series and do a Friday Night at 10pm series in about 9 minutes EST. This is going to be barebones all acoustic guitar no looping folks so please don't outstrisize me - we'll call this Friday night waking from the dead. Will probably just do a short show. Tune in at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 if you are around. Happy 4th jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a9ffbb7983046dd78eb4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been a bit down of late and this evening have finally felt like pl= aying. =A0I'm going to break my Sunday morning broadcast tradition with= Sunday Morning at 11 series and do a Friday Night at 10pm series in about = 9 minutes EST. =A0This is going to be barebones all acoustic guitar no loop= ing folks so please don't outstrisize me - we'll call this Friday n= ight waking from the dead. =A0Will probably just do a short show. =A0Tune i= n at http://= www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 if you are around.

Happy 4th

--001636c5a9ffbb7983046dd78eb4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 03:50:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F1083BE78; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:50:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=q+6XUzbHK3dVP5JvCOVIgwVgEZ68BclfAyr/Bq2U75g=; b=ImnxV4UbO1ebYrbbOXBzgSi38ZQkBtcxMHUpD9xM8b3inTPlWyV9/WBuxywsa6StNT P2YiM85Kz31zyWeBDs7XMq3q3FEGVosWHrolqbwiIxUZ0u4YwXZ/0jgOL7TeenvJYOew GPeYcwpKvGh7QQzuaHKNfpajl5Wx33ZTOnLVA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=TmQuh5HdwhAgFCfLMM2LKLBwoAhtHr/1M20FbDVtbB7VN5RCglIEHL4g1vR2YJQJ76 HsNxTOp32U2EeDsuxBpUB86bAtIgC14J99ml/UQqgBp4ZVKqaS7RrAR9ZVbJKD+QQKUO QQtJvQlZNHVA/yMJEe7PytSqcl0nmz1K+v6rQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:50:00 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907032050od1f9f8aob1072f3f5e6d5af2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: GigSpam: recording posted of this evening's ustream From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a723c9df0a046dd92acc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:50:01 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a723c9df0a046dd92acc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Early this evening I picked up an instrument for the first time in several days and decided to do a spur of the moment ustream. I announced it on the list about 10 min before 10pm EST which was about the time the inspiration all hit. Ted from our midst graced me with his e-prescence which was nice and I greatly appreciated. If you'd like to catch the playback you may do so at http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1750848 . This was my Sunday Morning at 11 series Friday at 10 so to speak! This was total stripped down acoustic guitar and oud improvisations, no looping this time other than my natural repetition. The audio has distortion early on but I later backed away from the mic and it improved. Have a great 4th and weekend folks. Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a723c9df0a046dd92acc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Early this evening I picked up an instrument for the first time in several = days and decided to do a spur of the moment ustream. =A0I announced it on t= he list about 10 min before 10pm EST which was about the time the inspirati= on all hit. =A0Ted from our midst graced me with his e-prescence which was = nice and I greatly appreciated. =A0If you'd like to catch the playback = you may do so at=A0http://www.u= stream.tv/recorded/1750848 .=A0

T= his was my Sunday Morning at 11 series Friday at 10 so to speak! This was = total stripped down acoustic guitar and oud improvisations, no looping this= time other than my natural repetition. The audio has distortion early on = but I later backed away from the mic and it improved.

<= /div>
= Have a great 4= th and weekend folks.

<= /div>
= Jim

<= /div>
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--001636c5a723c9df0a046dd92acc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 03:56:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83A353BE77; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:56:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246679816; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=hw80kM6CoJ+AQZ48Ye/43tZp7QM=; b=hzgbMNAJ+N+Y4o5XfS1JDV/vphvMfMgrpVRugqdMLW1QEYgn9naOOoawe/s3d0WI KegCXrQnuTOie8FmUe2t1RQ0JILb8YEdk4tXOcHl97H0AeZv5OfKE6jRUQKQBZ9q; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=e93UO0hqNvIA:10 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=MZwQBe6CAAAA:8 a=wUJ9XRdNAAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=JqEG_dyiAAAA:8 a=Bj5NVGU2pXv4IZe6GwIA:9 a=Nzqd19ogKkM0wK3jH6Hr_l8cx_4A:4 a=pufoRJSiRt4A:10 a=K8sKunsjz6wA:10 a=6y61hU8uYSEA:10 a=t4fEMkN2Tb8A:10 a=HKjzKo7LuBcA:10 a=j1JV5d43ytUA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=604MmwVVtQt5oNvRG7IA:9 a=qRdkY1sUIKclikluhUwA:7 a=uCkSY3z7s0dDASXtM6PiaHbSgNQA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000a01c9fc5b$79542170$85822245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9e0440a60907032050od1f9f8aob1072f3f5e6d5af2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GigSpam: recording posted of this evening's ustream Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:56:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9FC39.F1F8A730" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:56:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9FC39.F1F8A730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry I missed Jim! I was out, love the rebroadcast, glad to hear ya = pickin' and see ya grinin' j ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:50 PM Subject: GigSpam: recording posted of this evening's ustream Early this evening I picked up an instrument for the first time in = several days and decided to do a spur of the moment ustream. I = announced it on the list about 10 min before 10pm EST which was about = the time the inspiration all hit. Ted from our midst graced me with his = e-prescence which was nice and I greatly appreciated. If you'd like to = catch the playback you may do so at = http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1750848 .=20 This was my Sunday Morning at 11 series Friday at 10 so to speak! This = was total stripped down acoustic guitar and oud improvisations, no = looping this time other than my natural repetition. The audio has = distortion early on but I later backed away from the mic and it = improved. Have a great 4th and weekend folks. Jim --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9FC39.F1F8A730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry I missed Jim! I was out, love the = rebroadcast, glad to hear ya pickin' and see ya grinin'
 
j
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 = 11:50=20 PM
Subject: GigSpam: recording = posted of=20 this evening's ustream

Early this evening I picked up an instrument for the = first time=20 in several days and decided to do a spur of the moment ustream. =  I=20 announced it on the list about 10 min before 10pm EST which was about = the time=20 the inspiration all hit.  Ted from our midst graced me with his=20 e-prescence which was nice and I greatly appreciated.  If you'd = like to=20 catch the playback you may do so at http://www.ustream.tv/rec= orded/1750848=20 . 

This was my Sunday = Morning at=20 11 series Friday at 10 so to speak! This was total stripped down = acoustic=20 guitar and oud improvisations, no looping this time other than my = natural=20 repetition. The audio has distortion early on but I later backed away = from the=20 mic and it improved.

Have a great 4th = and weekend=20 folks.

Jim



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ReUse, an introspective textural = aural=20 journey coming soon...

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www.chinapaintingmusic.com=
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9FC39.F1F8A730-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 04:20:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58AD03BE73; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 04:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1Wn6lqGsx1LfDmIGtnQTaA3pmHenyVyCCEdmS3oKt8A=; b=Q0Y/Ht5jxttS2ZWfexQ6g4LkrAnqebe6t9jgEnFgQEfbJ+rjNHLXTDTCJ5QvgI2Iwp naxONHEjmKCkIlpFScdf9RQQda4/acT8AygHI2SYF7yY5PdP4oHZl7EF7Sq9cnipPPRv iJ1ZswarLOLGF77yDZi2OiqHiw3bK1/mxuggA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=d2nsoCMLkqgYM2+1FpInhb+/PEtvfr1g4bxFQ+ufRkBnDP3/PooVfyXpovbq7Sn+Fe vWBGmwWsOrFocP4OoTrXRmjJZ29X/8h7N18EAOFoGidN4+TQSfokCAXEOUtRpVGtI3jR mNXx+78QQUDr/5/5o8bEcirAFuE7FjiSN/kdQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000a01c9fc5b$79542170$85822245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <9e0440a60907032050od1f9f8aob1072f3f5e6d5af2@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c9fc5b$79542170$85822245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 00:20:44 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907032120t4a8980b3ga49a655f30da093f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GigSpam: recording posted of this evening's ustream From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a723becfd8046dd998c4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 04:20:46 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a723becfd8046dd998c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff thanks... On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:56 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Sorry I missed Jim! I was out, love the rebroadcast, glad to hear ya > pickin' and see ya grinin' > > j > > > --001636c5a723becfd8046dd998c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff thanks...

On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:= 56 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
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--001636c5a723becfd8046dd998c4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 05:43:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F1003BE7C; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 05:43:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:X-Priority:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=FxqBVP2rKELbKdFBvU8jZYlzy3bItuaqYcpwdqU3/a4204sV0F6AGrSWWRVgPfOnSWa1uSY0nRKElAaeQQsontMUonSgjejtqwW0Pc0UWLNbsgAPdQNv8nYvrp6lNQZzw5ZQDC3FzIK9Yqvzqw1AdXoW+W4v4yWxuXSUKgNpk3k= ; X-YMail-OSG: CDY3LOkVM1layEVIjzVPc_X1liZrk20B2HbN.9QO39k9v421aewTv.UmjDQNsByYkwNMHFz8IwW.pVQm1v.8Ba_Scn6Ug9pj93DW9xZ6Vo896igR7frphVRtN33Z6P6VINEA7muGZ7oRMdcVY22sQDBEj5O7mmA29KHHOtMCyZh7OhXKHh.BRPhZQgCMbYGhqnnMr7rBOtBsYVCDAmazoLUpBApAyZEK7hbzpxW7BEpZAi_ZD9kT4VGG0LeQK1oApKqd3ol.XdzWmQpol6v24IJkgUl9JOUoKWhDKLyQYeKV6QyzjBnlGfQ7dMuJe4YDJnvO_kRu5dZRReEjDoaKf8tIFZmc X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 In-Reply-To: <000a01c9fc5b$79542170$85822245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <9e0440a60907032050od1f9f8aob1072f3f5e6d5af2@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c9fc5b$79542170$85822245@YOUR08D5303051> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--56432851 Message-Id: <2A572AC6-B8C9-48C7-A3DE-5446704E9C9F@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: GigSpam: recording posted of this evening's ustream Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 06:43:42 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <2txd6B.A.vRB.WwuTKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 05:43:50 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--56432851 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Bugger i missed it too - it was at 2 in the morning here Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 4 Jul 2009, at 04:56, Jeff Duke wrote: > Sorry I missed Jim! I was out, love the rebroadcast, glad to hear > ya pickin' and see ya grinin' > > j > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Goodin > To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:50 PM > Subject: GigSpam: recording posted of this evening's ustream > > Early this evening I picked up an instrument for the first time in > several days and decided to do a spur of the moment ustream. I > announced it on the list about 10 min before 10pm EST which was > about the time the inspiration all hit. Ted from our midst graced > me with his e-prescence which was nice and I greatly appreciated. > If you'd like to catch the playback you may do so at http:// > www.ustream.tv/recorded/1750848 . > > This was my Sunday Morning at 11 series Friday at 10 so to speak! > This was total stripped down acoustic guitar and oud > improvisations, no looping this time other than my natural > repetition. The audio has distortion early on but I later backed > away from the mic and it improved. > > Have a great 4th and weekend folks. > > Jim > > > > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > --Apple-Mail-4--56432851 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Bugger i missed it too - it was at 2 in the morning here

=
Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 4 Jul 2009, = at 04:56, Jeff Duke wrote:

Sorry I missed Jim! I was out, love the rebroadcast, glad to = hear ya pickin' and see ya grinin'
 
j
----- = Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:50 = PM
 GigSpam: recording posted = of this evening's ustream

Early this evening I = picked up an instrument for the first time in several days and decided = to do a spur of the moment ustream.  I announced it on the list = about 10 min before 10pm EST which was about the time the inspiration = all hit.  Ted from our midst graced me with his e-prescence which = was nice and I greatly appreciated.  If you'd like to catch the = playback you may do so at http://www.ustream.tv/reco= rded/1750848 . 

This was my = Sunday Morning at 11 series Friday at 10 so to speak! This was total = stripped down acoustic guitar and oud improvisations, no looping this = time other than my natural repetition. The audio has distortion early = on but I later backed away from the mic and it = improved.

Have a great 4th = and weekend folks.
Jim



-- 
ReUse, an introspective = textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com<= br>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmu= sic
www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic
www.myspace.com/jim= goodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
<= a = href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu= sic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigi= tal

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmu= sic


= --Apple-Mail-4--56432851-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 06:03:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D6493BE77; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 06:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=g3zRegIM6T7abfhjZDNQR157Py/Nc2tG7dQvmHN/wtEeqJQwqwLnSO8fvtMwyiwSaM0HcMttxe/Qtdb7l39rglg0tmV+r4024u4lGOVa4uHd/g8NPOU5wv/Sm1VVY+bMjjK4D+vY2VfuYXbeQflIUEGQsTeH7OFW4T6ELb/Avxc= ; X-YMail-OSG: sMiCA4QVM1n9qZFEYS8oJvCLWoBpwcpBKPp75mnmC9Z.ROS3wqcI5giGtQVBfkUr8tygiIZ20VF6vD3WPR4kKD350JG4aRJhYH7bx_mpQAof7nLnXupGwBq3atTOiaEDmZMWNOm88_0umEbp26vAPbR5EhFBiJNlFcQiw8cRt_p96cZmO4KsH5bm2l78tvO885i5aakTl0vpn9qB4n9e35Yh3cyEwjaZbtup2l_SD7SinOLZVS1HYZpE98a2vW2_kuuN_BIZMidMPpS89yv39XUybPpox5A- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60907031854p3a87d688yf57e595abb2f68b6@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60907031854p3a87d688yf57e595abb2f68b6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--55266454 Message-Id: <3C03B630-BB12-418B-9350-A2396A00DF6F@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: GigSpam: UStream Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 07:03:09 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 06:03:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--55266454 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hey Guys Will be ustreaming tomorrow at 8pm BST at http://www.ustream.tv/ channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room - hope to see you there Take it easy Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-5--55266454 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Hey Guys

Will be ustreaming tomorrow at 8pm BST = at http= ://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room - hope to = see you there

Take it easy

=
Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com



=


= --Apple-Mail-5--55266454-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 06:09:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6619D3BE7E; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 06:09:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60907030904j4f809ddaie69be3c051890346@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60907030904j4f809ddaie69be3c051890346@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 15:09:10 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: ot.....mac question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 06:09:16 +0000 (UTC) At 12:04 PM -0400 7/3/09, Jim Goodin wrote: >I tend to not like Firefox but I'm a bit strange by many. Not so here: I don't think you're strange at all. I erased that thing from all my systems almost two years ago, and have rarely missed it. I thought it was great, when it was first released -- lean, fast, and functional. But it quickly became an unmanageable piece of bloatware. Screw that noise. If I wanna put up with bloatware, I'll go install Microsoft Office. :P I'm not really the biggest fan of Safari, either, but at least I don't wince when I use it. Nowadays, it's usually either Opera (occasional formatting quirkiness though) or Camino. --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 06:31:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD2D83BE77; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 06:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cJTtKVHBbbbJPccsnLkTRijAmGT/duJXrvIp4iq/w1U=; b=ud04FwUnGaEA5/SgGPy41DxtiayzH8kpqQHGlP+iPzfNXbyeP97QWC6/QHGCD3/T0t EsGoMtci12Xilukiq1riDFifX/Jbglhm5kS/3DsJuM4OQtbGApLr3Pyd30MaRaDMTMT5 /loEDwyv9J9nbJlLmIkPcfgqkizQxFaa2pbDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QqObZozoME93GHJtOnrjv0kw8C8NQ6zR/oP8Sd+lHHKK8Um9XluS2ZPOxvt7fodGfW +lNKRtHl4pC6eNo1zmcdcGW1uXapVcKWR4yETdGY+7prMlWbMXWk0FHgYUZ2mo6x+HWR 2CXq5RogmU86/IDAb6mehUwL4+qT/nEDUyCNY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907031009g177545abwf353877f2f440416@mail.gmail.com> References: <7761A6B4-5DA2-4012-906E-E90157D0FCB9@gmail.com> <7d2794000907030423p44ca7dd3r4247cffcfdfd6686@mail.gmail.com> <55EB5810-F80B-4639-A756-8E9F62503E51@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0907031009g177545abwf353877f2f440416@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:31:32 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Native Instruments deal From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 06:31:36 +0000 (UTC) I'm in full agreement with you Per. People get all up in arms about the dreaded dongle, and I have to admit I was a little put off at first, but now I have in iLok and a Syncrosoft dongle and it's so nice to be able to reinstall something and it just works with no fuss. I wish I had the choice to use it with all my software. But Native Instruments has a call/response system that uses a little app to make it all happen. Once it hiccuped when I think their server was down for maintenance but that was the only problem I've had with it and it was short lived. On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Andy Schoen wrote: >> Hey there, isn't this software dongle based? =A0Don't you need a dongle = to >> operate it? =A0I fear the almighty dongle! >> Andy > > No. Native Instruments authorizes your computer. > > I rather prefer "dongle" though. I've recently started using an iLok > to keep my licenses safe and be able to quickly install everything on > any new laptop I may be forced to switch to by accident. The insurance > for the option to get a replacement iLok right away from any music > store "on the road" is only $30 a year. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 11:18:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89A233BE78; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 11:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LrVOfHUcS71v0xBlgS1oGo4mwfIkFJlE9gCt2eaZD/I=; b=Lkzunh35DKj0cya36zGzN3eVY6cbtUGlMXDmZxW2EzMjLx4vkzhPXCEQJ5QU2Toi3X s+zqzNpQf4ST3XaIGylEjexRVmYCa62QusK0E7JX3lVkQRl1xB6ijKEjHFvsIg+9EXiS eOinoacAUjmzX36oV5nH26D2b8BzoUfkUuAsE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=F6vrMOMK9LNTmO76pa9aUWWfAPU2FiGsTIEVRvUlG0E4GWV1Vslj0m7ExV8e2V2MS7 pZ9v/yT+Sy1wpi4fGIlwBkQsXDuuD89LK0SpCjqHOAeuYQh4NQcV7CMs82DkmhMWSW3I /dZi5YT8TpIU80YcjmsFtwpp7nFwfxi9GBqP0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2A572AC6-B8C9-48C7-A3DE-5446704E9C9F@btinternet.com> References: <9e0440a60907032050od1f9f8aob1072f3f5e6d5af2@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c9fc5b$79542170$85822245@YOUR08D5303051> <2A572AC6-B8C9-48C7-A3DE-5446704E9C9F@btinternet.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 07:18:58 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907040418w7362af65l4cb19a23928faea4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GigSpam: recording posted of this evening's ustream From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a57b6af613046ddf703e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 11:18:59 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a57b6af613046ddf703e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matt no biggie it was very short notice, just had a wild hare that it was time to broadcast... so your's is 8pm your time? --001636c5a57b6af613046ddf703e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt no biggie it was very short notice, just had a wild hare that it was t= ime to broadcast... =A0so your's is 8pm your time?

--001636c5a57b6af613046ddf703e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 13:33:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 517093BE77; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A4F5A2E.4040701@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 09:33:34 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #636 for July 2, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:33:50 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090702.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #639 July 2, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I started a month-long focus on the Jeffrey Koepper. The Featured CD at Midnight was Etherea on Air Space Records. Jeffrey Koepper: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#jul PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Jerome Froese The Speed of Snow The Speed of Snow (Ricochet Dream) Chris Bocast and To Cross the Sea of Strategem (Divergent Arts) MJCatalin Clouds Dan Pound Birth of a Planet Living Planet (Pound Sounds) Saul Stokes Stories Reflect In Metacollage (none) Those Eyes Mac Mavis Islander Report From the Lake (Faria) Jeffrey Koepper Between Dreams Etherea (Air Space) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Jeffrey Koepper Distant Light Etherea (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper Timeless Etherea (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper Ancient Sunlight Etherea (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper Spiraling Etherea (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper Silent Age Etherea (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper Passages Etherea (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper Moments In Time Etherea (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper Twilight Etherea (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper While We Sleep Etherea (Air Space) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Jeffrey Koepper. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Momentium on Air Space Records. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Sgt@23.com Sat Jul 4 15:43:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 55518 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:42:56 UTC Received: from keralapwd.gov.in (mail.keralapwd.gov.in [210.212.236.82]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA803BE70; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 15:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.keralapwd.gov.in (keralapwd.gov.in [210.212.236.82]) by keralapwd.gov.in (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id n640CilQ008700; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 05:42:44 +0530 Received: from 41.220.75.3 (SquirrelMail authenticated user cedriq) by keralapwd.gov.in with HTTP; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 08:12:44 +0800 (MYT) Message-ID: <54761.41.220.75.3.1246666364.squirrel@keralapwd.gov.in> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 08:12:44 +0800 (MYT) Subject: Good day Dear Friend From: "Sgt.Gregg McDonalds" Reply-To: sgt.gregg1@sify.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; Good day Dear Friend, My name is Sgt.Gregg McDonalds, an American soldier with 3rd infantry Division serving in Iraq . 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Regards, Sgt.Gregg McDonalds Abul Uruj, Baghdad , Iraq From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 19:00:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F64E3BE73; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:00:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: volume frustration Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 21:00:23 +0200 Message-ID: <000901c9fcd9$afcdc250$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acn82a9FHkG9k4l0RValvxHNCCfVPg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:00:28 +0000 (UTC) This is probably a stupid question but at the moment I'm not sure where to look. I have this Soloette classical guitar with headphones output. When I plug my headphones into the guitar, the sound is very bright and loud. But it is also completely dry. So I plugged it into my Verbzilla to add a bit of reverb. It works ok as a stompbox under regular circumstances but when I plug my (stereo) headphones into the (mono) output of the Verbzilla (or the DL-4, this is true probably for other stompboxes too), the volume is only half of what it used to be. I'm not sure why this happens. Is it due to my dabbling with the stereo/mono adapters that I use? What would be the optimal way to transfer the two separate 1/4" jack outputs from the Verbzilla to the one stereo headphone jack of the headphone? without any loose contact problems? Or is it the stompbox itself that reduces the volume? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 19:35:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FF2E3BE78; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:35:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246736103; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=NhT55v73Bx8doQQiUo8db7eb4ow=; b=iOQHXw/+BdHUPaaOQjweBnnRWbFsU8SGGdiow8IDCF8dID0HKXEPF4OMDopet3Tg Wk/uq9S2WEer8ijEuElH9cMQcZMae4hj2FsqapsbrTPQr7IS7Sz+ee/P7uAi/q73; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=LxjwwuxKHw3a1ISOeEsA:9 a=1H_Ac-9fMCx1wtfYD4XRtH8qFMYA:4 a=0GXzayXv4hcA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000a01c9fcde$8678e920$85822245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000901c9fcd9$afcdc250$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: volume frustration Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 15:35:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:35:03 +0000 (UTC) Hey Michael, The Verzilla is a mono box? Anyway not sure but you might try backing the headphone jack out a detent for mono. The best way would be to use a little mixer though. peace, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 3:00 PM Subject: volume frustration > This is probably a stupid question but at the moment I'm not sure where to > look. > > I have this Soloette classical guitar with headphones output. When I plug > my > headphones into the guitar, the sound is very bright and loud. But it is > also completely dry. So I plugged it into my Verbzilla to add a bit of > reverb. It works ok as a stompbox under regular circumstances but when I > plug my (stereo) headphones into the (mono) output of the Verbzilla (or > the > DL-4, this is true probably for other stompboxes too), the volume is only > half of what it used to be. > > I'm not sure why this happens. Is it due to my dabbling with the > stereo/mono > adapters that I use? What would be the optimal way to transfer the two > separate 1/4" jack outputs from the Verbzilla to the one stereo headphone > jack of the headphone? without any loose contact problems? > > Or is it the stompbox itself that reduces the volume? > > -Michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 19:37:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F6B93BE7E; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246736278; bh=N8roJty6qFD0rdMI3FLY3F8EDT/AitQixeX7j3FpmIo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2onISEJxQinjbXHKRVTYGuj6yQGi/f6OOstUKkyNjUiUujNz59sfmoFlSbJ0ri1irB/Y0BMs+JJcEpuPB+R7dK6xQihShyyrbcSfK0zxuYnQoXstB9lZNDjVtO7FdzvW6H2JX0ZDFVFK9e24fVdueLqSL+oGI3CDoBwGeVgr2PM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IcV3ZojQCXAkKmaX/Ftd6GGcpVOwn6FC7xQ82jLncFoAPeWa+Tg7xHUsgtVab/1GrZzIOhjVwZsxqn3D5yRoYl5/xyeWkkmUvCUhf0Z+hFO7Eh4tXXnn05frAf4vVOSy0AKOHrX9qo3VW8NBhlVR4r9nsixpLxHRTdccPQjt8Ak=; Message-ID: <31501.68100.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:37:57 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:37:59 +0000 (UTC) i recently got this one:=0Ahttp://www.duesenberg.de/duesenberg/en_news_laps= teel.php=0A=0Alove it, but is a beast if using the benders they will keep y= ou busy and out of trouble for a long time!=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulo= com=0A=0A=0A--- richard sales schrieb am Do, 2.7.20= 09:=0A=0A> Von: richard sales =0A> Betreff: Re: MY N= EW TOY=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Donnerstag, 2= . Juli 2009, 19:21=0A> I haven't played one, but=0A> Robert Randolph, who i= s sort of the Jimi Hendrix of lap=0A> steel, plays one of these:=C2=A0=0A> = http://www.harmosmusic.com/SG/indexSG.htm=0A> (Check out Robert's samples o= nline.=0A> =C2=A0It's dazzling!)=0A> Looks like the Golden Gate Bridge, but= the=0A> online samples sound pretty cool. =C2=A0It's cheaper=0A> than an A= sher EH... but I still want an Asher.=0A> =C2=A0=0A> Still working up the c= hops (with the old Supro)=0A> to warrant spending the dough on a Harmos / A= sher. =C2=A0The=0A> sample by Steinar Gregertsen playing God Only Knows on = the=0A> Asher Electro Hawaiian is one of the best lap steel SOUNDS=0A> I've= ever heard. =C2=A0He did it with plug=0A> ins!=0A> Almost finished the rec= ord I'm working on (4=0A> months and counting!). =C2=A0Hope to have some ha= ppy news on=0A> that front in the next month or two.=C2=A0=0A> En Shallah! = Knock on wood!=0A> I check in with you all frequently and always=0A> very m= uch enjoy reading your posts. =C2=A0=0A> your fan=0A> richard saleswww.glas= swing.comwww.richardsales.comwww.hayleysales.com=0A> =0A> On Jul 2, 2009,= =0A> at 8:01 AM, William Walker wrote:=0A> The=0A> Asher Jr is $759.00 list= =C2=A0http://www.asherguitars.com/lap_steel_electro_h_jr.php,=0A> =C2=A0but= its more like a standard 25 foot scale length=C2=A0J. I=0A> bought one fro= m Bill Asher , and sold it to a friend (=0A> already have one of these,http= ://www.asherguitars.com/lap_steel_electro_hawaiian.php=C2=A0=C2=A0though mi= ne=0A> has nickel covered lollar pickups )=0A> .The=0A> Electro Hawaiian = =C2=A0Jr, is =C2=A0IMHO the best lap steel=0A> on the market under $1000 bu= t its certainly not petite.=0A> =C2=A0I=E2=80=99ve been trying to convince = Asher to design a new=0A> model that is more of a travel size instrument li= ke a Supro=0A> or my Fender champion with a 22 Inch scale length. I=E2=80= =99ll=0A> keep working on him.=C2=A0Bill=0A> =C2=A0From:=C2=A0E Gross [mail= to:slapbandjam@yahoo.com]=C2=A0=0A> Sent:=C2=A0Thursday, July=0A> 02, 2009 = 7:18 AM=0A> To:=C2=A0billwalker@baymoon.com=0A> Subject:=C2=A0Re: MY NEW=0A= > TOY=0A> =C2=A0Wow, a 22 foot scale lap steel --=0A> post a video!;)=C2=A0= Actually, all kidding aside, I would=0A> like to=C2=A0buy/make another lap = steel, I have an old Supro=0A> but would like to get something with humbuck= ers. At an=0A> affordable price, which rules out the Bill Asher model that= =0A> Ben Harper uses....any=0A> suggestions?=C2=A0Thanks,=C2=A0Eric =C2=A0F= rom:=C2=A0William Walker=0A> >=0A> To:=C2=A0and= y butler=0A> ;=C2=A0Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com=0A> Sent:=C2=A0Thursday, July 2,=0A> 2009 1:28:41 AM=0A> Subject:=C2= =A0RE: MY NEW TOY=0A> =0A> Bingo! Andy makes a good point, if you used just= one amp=0A> simulator, say=0A> something like a sans amp, and you place it= before the M-13=0A> or some where=0A> near the start of the chain using th= e M-13's effects=0A> loop. You could achieve=0A> the missing link you are l= ooking for without sacrificing=0A> the beloved stereo=0A> imaging of the ef= fects. I haven't checked my computer=0A> in a week which is why=0A> I'm com= ing to this conversation so late. I've been=0A> in=C2=A0 West=0A> Virginia = , of all=0A> places, visiting relatives of relatives. I brought my=0A> 22' = scale lap steel=0A> and borrowed Rick's Vox DA-5 and took a line 6 dl-4 to= =0A> keep myself amused.=0A> Actually, if you think about it, A DA-5 could = make a pretty=0A> cool first stage=0A> as it has a line/phone out that you = could feed the M-13 in=0A> either mono or=0A> stereo. If you don't have an = issue with the=0A> "feel" of modeling amps, I'd=0A> give either solution a = try.=0A> Bill=0A> =0A> =0A> tEd R KiLLiAn wrote:=0A> > Yeah, it's really to= o bad that there's no also=0A> a single-device solution=C2=A0=0A> > for a s= tereo amp simulator to go along with this=0A> device.=0A> >=C2=A0=0A> =0A> = Well, I obviuosly you know best what you need to=0A> achieve...but...=0A> = =0A> Rather than put two amp sims after the fx, surely it=0A> would=C2=A0= =0A> be neater to put one amp sim between guitar and fx.=0A> =0A> That give= s you more options for combining sounds, and=0A> doesn't=0A> mush up the la= yers together.=0A> =0A> andy=0A> =C2=A0=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A= =0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 19:39:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B380B3BE80; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246736360; bh=xrBGZXEfxI65ZQcDCmY6mMeDibaR7EsVkUW7eT0XCmw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0UCFXjVmfVC4Lu4btuVLAIa+Vi6x3lY8YEE0z+uruD2zyip52lHVecGF6+Po0GRMTahD96QflmN6xU4RXzpQhkUOFSqxFWD0vmkN0GLeUOFtZFDSADUCNt7etciJNRfJMQ0t3VuP3XbA5KgDTmVDrecu0Rz4VF4LzQpogEnDtyI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=n+MXA3+W9pjR7PoO4YSuvWVl/hyGKTN/MPvOI49g6twHRtcsM8tRyX8Q9Zcqa61CS31LSoM1o67CoVzwjxxIEc+yfZs/VUkCvfZSU3l+vEPFHuJXWeC0nSiu/rBlUCo3KQNNFKUkUVVEDsA91EAQrCjuXCHQxOt+taITxGCAiY8=; Message-ID: <391131.46981.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:39:20 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: pool.loop vs. loop.pool To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:39:21 +0000 (UTC) i think i might be getting a gig there soon:-)=0A=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luis= angulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Bob Amstadt schrieb am Do, 2.7.2009= :=0A=0A> Von: Bob Amstadt =0A> Betreff: Re: pool.loop vs.= loop.pool=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Donnerst= ag, 2. Juli 2009, 19:20=0A> Seems to me that you'll have to have=0A> the ne= xt looping festival in a pool. =0A> :-)=0A> =0A> > I guess I just got it ba= ckwards, though.......=0A> >=0A> > An event called Pool Loop in Zurich.=0A>= =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 19:46:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB3663BE79; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:46:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004101c9fce0$1299c130$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <9e0440a60907031854p3a87d688yf57e595abb2f68b6@mail.gmail.com> <3C03B630-BB12-418B-9350-A2396A00DF6F@btinternet.com> Subject: Yet more Ustream Gigspam Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:46:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9FCE8.743348A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <8tUksC.A.-IG.5F7TKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:46:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9FCE8.743348A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello dear loopists, As promised/threatened I'm doing another in my series of live broadcasts = on Ustream tomorrow. Not sure if I'll play cello or guitar yet, but i = dare say looping wil be involved. It would be great if you could join me. Don't forget to watch Jim and = Matt too! Live audio and video streaming on Ustream Sunday 5 July 5:30 pm (UK time) International times here http://tinyurl.com/ku528p Solo improvisations http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain Steve www.stevemoyes.org.uk www.creativemusic.org.uk www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9FCE8.743348A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello dear loopists,
 
As promised/threatened I'm doing another in my series = of live=20 broadcasts on Ustream tomorrow. Not sure if I'll play cello or guitar = yet, but i=20 dare say looping wil be involved.
 
It would be great if you could join me. Don't forget = to watch=20 Jim and Matt too!
 
Live audio and video streaming on Ustream
Sunday = 5 July=20 5:30 pm (UK time)
 International times here http://tinyurl.com/ku528p
Solo=20 improvisations
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain
 
Steve
 

www.stevemoyes.org.uk
www.creativemusic.org.uk
www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes
------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C9FCE8.743348A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 19:56:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA3B73BE7E; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:56:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246737404; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Lh21TQx0XE3x/7OBzAQO7Rh7e10=; b=Gnb6q5jNSVXkGErk9Eow237dfa+fQpNV98cz3GQ09/P2GDvvJDz5aCwi45pPdmlq J2yz33Sy30mspTGYK91l7XEsIxSRdQxQ8GcJ4DnjLJJ9EbrewbRGpt+bj0k7ddGX; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=NXtYt81UAAAA:20 a=MZwQBe6CAAAA:8 a=euIQdlOiAAAA:8 a=OnqUa9bqAAAA:8 a=JqEG_dyiAAAA:8 a=hoePs8T57rZRuc-lcGAA:9 a=xb9onx-5gKxvI3Iop_hi2DLG7xMA:4 a=j1JV5d43ytUA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=k5QqszbNR3jzCFXC:21 a=C4Rz-Mz9ej2k53DP:21 a=a5Gf7U6LAAAA:8 a=Ob25_qPOh3N8WitKDkMA:9 a=KX16rePogbQa98O-b8wA:7 a=inRYhviTcUqdXnToWgUAGFT7pYwA:4 a=FgSdGi13OAAA:10 a=yHIqe9kG5mgA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000a01c9fce1$8dd111e0$85822245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9e0440a60907031854p3a87d688yf57e595abb2f68b6@mail.gmail.com> <3C03B630-BB12-418B-9350-A2396A00DF6F@btinternet.com> <004101c9fce0$1299c130$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> Subject: Re: Yet more Ustream Gigspam Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 15:56:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9FCC0.06863970" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:56:44 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9FCC0.06863970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looking forward Steve, thanks for coming by today. peace, Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Steve Moyes=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 3:46 PM Subject: Yet more Ustream Gigspam Hello dear loopists, As promised/threatened I'm doing another in my series of live = broadcasts on Ustream tomorrow. Not sure if I'll play cello or guitar = yet, but i dare say looping wil be involved. It would be great if you could join me. Don't forget to watch Jim and = Matt too! Live audio and video streaming on Ustream Sunday 5 July 5:30 pm (UK time) International times here http://tinyurl.com/ku528p Solo improvisations http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain Steve www.stevemoyes.org.uk www.creativemusic.org.uk www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9FCC0.06863970 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Looking forward Steve, thanks for = coming by=20 today.
 
peace,
 
Jeff
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Steve Moyes
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 = 3:46=20 PM
Subject: Yet more Ustream = Gigspam

Hello dear loopists,
 
As promised/threatened I'm doing another in my = series of live=20 broadcasts on Ustream tomorrow. Not sure if I'll play cello or guitar = yet, but=20 i dare say looping wil be involved.
 
It would be great if you could join me. Don't forget = to watch=20 Jim and Matt too!
 
Live audio and video streaming on = Ustream
Sunday 5 July=20 5:30 pm (UK time)
 International times here http://tinyurl.com/ku528p
Solo=20 improvisations
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain
 
Steve
 

www.stevemoyes.org.uk
www.creativemusic.org.uk
www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes
<= /HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9FCC0.06863970-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 20:00:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F5D93BE87; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ldq0e6F0vaEtcrwShi5JudsJWHI45048+gm6dVME6OQ=; b=mNKpMJSu5WC5jAyzQURK7N1EYV9yYXv+g5o05vM+S46UD3t9Dv5dBIOFCsucLWmheZ 4n8NMSlBdvaStb9TfN4X+J4zBIolGwlzCejIRBaWHznkzZNH5axu60GGSsAz7YMbirbv I7mK8UhOZmeS8DxBb8RHjXMDG/u6Dz+AJtCTM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LWPTNjDf5vsll7WPp4Dp4UAGfdqMnkWyn54FD/CFA18flG3cddlc19pnSWdUnJbQl9 owGY7nbdlHNaogVMZ8zrthqGBsjF6E/GMcpyrsPCQBd6zjGqq7qjoqKUtOWbgo7T3Mcg u61gMDa+PZVth6LbrCZ0CCsamMuhP73zvW9Ys= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3C03B630-BB12-418B-9350-A2396A00DF6F@btinternet.com> References: <9e0440a60907031854p3a87d688yf57e595abb2f68b6@mail.gmail.com> <3C03B630-BB12-418B-9350-A2396A00DF6F@btinternet.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 16:00:16 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907041300h4127fcd0w2ebd0057da538cae@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GigSpam: UStream From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a57bc80059046de6b83d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:00:18 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a57bc80059046de6b83d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matt I think I'm in luck just thought I just missed you but it's tomorrow as in Sunday no? On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Matt Stevens < mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hey Guys > Will be ustreaming tomorrow at 8pm BST at > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room - hope to see > you there > > Take it easy > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a57bc80059046de6b83d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt I think I'm in luck just thought I just missed you but it's to= morrow as in Sunday no?

On Sat, Jul 4, 20= 09 at 2:03 AM, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> = wrote:



--
ReUse= , an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links= ...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.comwww.myspace.com/jimgood= inmusic
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www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodin= music

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

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--001636c5a57bc80059046de6b83d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 20:02:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 859E43BE8E; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=e+VC+mKL4kZ/IpG4A+KzkoWTHERxNg+NLDuWAKoeckM=; b=wZqcz1oRaKO2MDEBcz+ng9YZMgW1TW8CZbZzUYTddL9P9EzbTs+sQgm9Ch8sG7F3xk 7s+5tq0ZG09p/H6XOiDqoc2+3I26oI3XSHhWh1pOSgc8Kqbg0drp8IgEJQ9fayKMv8Cb 48dWzW+a27x3nAUCbyasx+dbTktOlRLcyU/fw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JRlmReVpxoXxLU93obvmo35zkqmM/9XKwfdpcUC8Wml/oiZoDFvfkP0Y7ubChCAhVo ZvfOFNuLb9TWD2C47wNRtti1YZ9FXcmkLFNCxsvH1tD1pyBdLe9jzLxTiIUl2T6zlSlD OMDdInU0zKyYDTdCM/UAjK4qbuDQ3SvTOT+lo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000a01c9fce1$8dd111e0$85822245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <9e0440a60907031854p3a87d688yf57e595abb2f68b6@mail.gmail.com> <3C03B630-BB12-418B-9350-A2396A00DF6F@btinternet.com> <004101c9fce0$1299c130$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> <000a01c9fce1$8dd111e0$85822245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 16:02:42 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907041302o3f1d3ef5u2e34f2aecd92cf6a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Yet more Ustream Gigspam From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c923d774206b046de6c10b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:02:43 +0000 (UTC) --001636c923d774206b046de6c10b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit arg Jeff did you play today? I thought you canceled today. If so I am real sorry, if you did is the clip posted on ustream? I will try to catch Steve and Matt tomorrow I just thought I missed Matt, man what a long strange trip it seems I've been on.... --001636c923d774206b046de6c10b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable arg Jeff did you play today? =A0I thought you canceled today. =A0If so I am= real sorry, if you did is the clip posted on ustream?=A0=A0I=A0will=A0try= =A0to=A0catch=A0Steve=A0and=A0Matt=A0tomorrow=A0I=A0just=A0thought=A0I=A0mi= ssed=A0Matt,=A0man=A0what=A0a=A0long=A0strange=A0trip=A0it=A0seems=A0I'= ve=A0been=A0on....
--001636c923d774206b046de6c10b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 20:20:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD5193BE73; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:X-Priority:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=5BooUQc7AWYaiOy9yREyaMda7yFlxpuHotnX4S8xenHf2ivRfKMLHgRQvVmWOBxVMPbLMqOTjoU/c41IUCNctpH70po7Vm8PD9EwnCKD7su3oZ/bjmkmWenWukdSixfOf4HIWk2dSHEEeBKVUxD0ZlUZKDV9tn/Hx06VoCWidhw= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: wEkwBuUVM1lESf6T75Euuc0y4Q1Pg.YXx52WY1qid9hRA.vJV5NWtlps8_leMiMcRKnjUi0GhYnpAAR_myT1NATe2hcZwH0lq6uebG6gadsbHxxO1OiPFmPYE4Hv0vyBOHIPXy9vka0gIQNWi71JV2nxrVLto_kIedCmmrPz6Chpi0kTR4MGVJuR8rzSI1EvR3b2Mx59RpfvLLPcDK9k71yn6GslK4RDbZ61lgMWSFXr2DKpQMjp5Coa.QP20b3I5sNphZp_9xx2AMgbntQA5LdlyMWTFk2jyGq3zqzRGsJJCj7q91jdsGrPcKuaC8UZiXQDLlVohpfNKkz_ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 In-Reply-To: <004101c9fce0$1299c130$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> References: <9e0440a60907031854p3a87d688yf57e595abb2f68b6@mail.gmail.com> <3C03B630-BB12-418B-9350-A2396A00DF6F@btinternet.com> <004101c9fce0$1299c130$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--3854358 Message-Id: <6422D8AD-AC4B-4EC8-A537-10EC2805E908@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Yet more Ustream Gigspam Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 21:20:01 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:20:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6--3854358 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I'll be watching - Jim what time are you on man? Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 4 Jul 2009, at 20:46, Steve Moyes wrote: > Hello dear loopists, > > As promised/threatened I'm doing another in my series of live > broadcasts on Ustream tomorrow. Not sure if I'll play cello or > guitar yet, but i dare say looping wil be involved. > > It would be great if you could join me. Don't forget to watch Jim > and Matt too! > > Live audio and video streaming on Ustream > Sunday 5 July 5:30 pm (UK time) > International times here http://tinyurl.com/ku528p > Solo improvisations > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain > > Steve > > > www.stevemoyes.org.uk > www.creativemusic.org.uk > www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes --Apple-Mail-6--3854358 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII I'll be watching - Jim what time are you on man?

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 4 Jul 2009, = at 20:46, Steve Moyes wrote:

Hello dear = loopists,
 
As = promised/threatened I'm doing another in my series of live broadcasts on = Ustream tomorrow. Not sure if I'll play cello or guitar yet, but i dare = say looping wil be involved.
 
It would be great if you could join me. Don't forget to = watch Jim and Matt too!
 
Live audio and video streaming on Ustream
Sunday 5 = July 5:30 pm (UK time)
 International times here http://tinyurl.com/ku528p
 
Steve
 
=

= --Apple-Mail-6--3854358-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 20:24:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9C633BE7F; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xEgMVWfGlNNGHqktN7Ss/eeHkqar6nJDAxp4Me2n4QE=; b=XnzimqXtbiWPCwt+nZfUrkpGIDZH8mg2hKWl+FWgkOLF3KJncosQxgiAEoVhMFzyNU Ty3pDFS6B0zcI9VxtfeVsXORThyTAO9jMrT5dW2vwKc+Ko2yEdreqv+vAdVPxzvdDbR2 mwL0Q1i+KB/QZlvNEVId7xOak7xHBRrifTpog= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=O7IvlSC4Mc6hOEtlQnM+Kiy0GnoNGf1uzpXBAVgjKnoE3jZ1hv+J9ClZN9dxwsWwd8 1HbfvSAk3Z5QZg9G5dx+OKRU2EWbhazkkKOswQfNqhsobgHr0fcgC1KiSfdl7Q9dMgoc pbvHCR5EDwF7vk5QQ5N9eFaKhh3L1vf6oCkMo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6422D8AD-AC4B-4EC8-A537-10EC2805E908@btinternet.com> References: <9e0440a60907031854p3a87d688yf57e595abb2f68b6@mail.gmail.com> <3C03B630-BB12-418B-9350-A2396A00DF6F@btinternet.com> <004101c9fce0$1299c130$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> <6422D8AD-AC4B-4EC8-A537-10EC2805E908@btinternet.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 16:24:02 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907041324w2b7b4c5ev4849c14bc93ea0eb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Yet more Ustream Gigspam From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a57bbfdded046de70da9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:24:03 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a57bbfdded046de70da9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not unless I do another spur of the moment as I did last night which was a lark. I'll see what my pulse is in the AM but right now last night was my show for now but for now hide and watch as Ted said. I will plan to catch you and Steve tomorrow Matt. J On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Matt Stevens < mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > I'll be watching - Jim what time are you on man? > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 4 Jul 2009, at 20:46, Steve Moyes wrote: > > Hello dear loopists, > > As promised/threatened I'm doing another in my series of live broadcasts on > Ustream tomorrow. Not sure if I'll play cello or guitar yet, but i dare say > looping wil be involved. > > It would be great if you could join me. Don't forget to watch Jim and Matt > too! > > Live audio and video streaming on Ustream > Sunday 5 July 5:30 pm (UK time) > International times here http://tinyurl.com/ku528p > Solo improvisations > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Soundings-From-Behind-The-Net-Curtain > > Steve > > > www.stevemoyes.org.uk > www.creativemusic.org.uk > www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes > > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a57bbfdded046de70da9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm not unless I do another spur of the moment as I did last night whic= h was a lark. =A0I'll see what my =A0pulse is in the AM but right now l= ast night was my show for now but for now hide and watch as Ted said. =A0I = will plan to catch you and Steve tomorrow Matt.

J

On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4= :20 PM, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:<= br>
I'll be watching - Jim what time are you on man?

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Matt Stevens




On 4 Jul 2009, at 20:46, Steve Moyes wrote:

Hello dear loopists,
=A0
= As promised/threatened I'm doing another in my series of live broadcast= s on Ustream tomorrow. Not sure if I'll play cello or guitar yet, but i= dare say looping wil be involved.
=A0
It would be great if you c= ould join me. Don't forget to watch Jim and Matt too!
=A0
Live audio and video streaming o= n Ustream
Sunday 5 July 5:30 pm (UK time)
=A0Intern= ational times here=A0http://tinyurl.com/ku528p=
=A0
Steve
=A0




--
= ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgood= inmusic.com
www.chinap= aintingmusic.com
w= ww.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/china= paintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodin= music

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networkin= g...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodin= music

--001636c5a57bbfdded046de70da9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 20:42:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CB0C3BE78; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004d01c9fce7$e9570910$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <9e0440a60907031854p3a87d688yf57e595abb2f68b6@mail.gmail.com> <3C03B630-BB12-418B-9350-A2396A00DF6F@btinternet.com> <004101c9fce0$1299c130$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> <6422D8AD-AC4B-4EC8-A537-10EC2805E908@btinternet.com> <9e0440a60907041324w2b7b4c5ev4849c14bc93ea0eb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Yet more Ustream Gigspam Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 21:42:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004A_01C9FCF0.4AF30180" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:42:08 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C9FCF0.4AF30180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah, I hadn't realised that last night's was instead of tomorrow. I = thought it was an extra bonus! It was very beautiful all the same. Steve ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:24 PM Subject: Re: Yet more Ustream Gigspam I'm not unless I do another spur of the moment as I did last night = which was a lark. I'll see what my pulse is in the AM but right now = last night was my show for now but for now hide and watch as Ted said. = I will plan to catch you and Steve tomorrow Matt. J ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C9FCF0.4AF30180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ah, I hadn't realised that last night's was instead of tomorrow. I = thought=20 it was an extra bonus! It was very beautiful all the same.
 
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 = 9:24=20 PM
Subject: Re: Yet more Ustream=20 Gigspam

I'm not unless I do another spur of the moment as I did = last=20 night which was a lark.  I'll see what my  pulse is in the = AM but=20 right now last night was my show for now but for now hide and watch as = Ted=20 said.  I will plan to catch you and Steve tomorrow Matt.

J
------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C9FCF0.4AF30180-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 21:03:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A82DD3BE7F; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 21:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Rt4+0UY7Gt3CPsT7BROls2/1Pu6mwMn1LTIJDcy1NEw=; b=dLzqccPnaptVs+GPRtK9Gdhs7rJuSXlrSxWkPa6yEfCqXsm6J5f+FF0bAgakZ+GHEe h63Tj9V+hdmx8/THn3HSSDTsubZdZ1DBC+ti807RApoGY2aBK+T4rEOfKG0dDPSBzMcW Axx8K+UdDZMqUcIFdmxc0H4SUK1dabFQaLQNk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qK21/QrBx3rWLBZQEwkM6foB/8axkt9fY+DoP03ZHzKeD+tXCgcbNlxA6rYQsMrXmr CESF6M91fA0jv5hWA22xJrnuBYWSKOaY0O7RaGiQdrWW59NirOTx21kg9zEFBhyYhEDo cwEoW5EgUeGxYScTPWfm3VeoIT7lDVcZDIN24= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <391131.46981.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <391131.46981.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 23:03:48 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907041403p50523c11qd644f8268fa533df@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: pool.loop vs. loop.pool From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 21:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Cool. Can I too have a gig in the pool? I can bring my water proof laptop and cork saxophone! per On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 9:39 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > > i think i might be getting a gig there soon:-) > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- Bob Amstadt schrieb am Do, 2.7.2009: > >> Von: Bob Amstadt >> Betreff: Re: pool.loop =C2=A0vs. =C2=A0loop.pool >> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Datum: Donnerstag, 2. Juli 2009, 19:20 >> Seems to me that you'll have to have >> the next looping festival in a pool. >> :-) >> >> > I guess I just got it backwards, though....... >> > >> > An event called Pool Loop in Zurich. >> >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 21:22:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E6743BE78; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 21:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=BlIRGLOcHMHaJlZq0v63rhnUclsBS/yY17y/KYWRq6GpixHm9idyp3Jr9zZvNvQM7n1+l8xLIIyA2WZq1OeLLAUpmPfeDEOWd/TtGva0VpT49+g753zN7NDT8nt1hepjfcEwJrKIhXGmskqmzH63oLRmktaNK2kmngaTovUJOuw= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: s7U8nicVM1ksPpoPsQPu6xAnUdp05Z3s9hKVZfSaIokqoIB2b1D33xakwzGwnCnw1AGHkoOxs9vQFw23YhXM8fwXwc1s5.Pl.9WOMHV8xqSdtcT073C9hYejR6BUAQpDg3YDg.tIL.2dNOYm19rT8EREdFxy2mMIs_LrZOP56eb0SEIzMQCxzv8HO__8WEIfkTs0BErpoUEos557uOF166w1Axoidu.3u0R4cyECLJtqR.oltHD8rPERbjR8KVclQkwqR.lno3X.rNnCGUyl1KKcPhxGJpKJuVMf3Blg.ySE0LLUmZsubt7b X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60907041300h4127fcd0w2ebd0057da538cae@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60907031854p3a87d688yf57e595abb2f68b6@mail.gmail.com> <3C03B630-BB12-418B-9350-A2396A00DF6F@btinternet.com> <9e0440a60907041300h4127fcd0w2ebd0057da538cae@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--104073 Message-Id: <25F03014-EB06-4716-8871-024E157B87C5@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: GigSpam: UStream Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 22:22:31 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 21:22:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8--104073 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Yup!!!! Apologies for confusion - damn international date line Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 4 Jul 2009, at 21:00, Jim Goodin wrote: > Matt I think I'm in luck just thought I just missed you but it's > tomorrow as in Sunday no? > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Matt Stevens > wrote: > Hey Guys > > Will be ustreaming tomorrow at 8pm BST at http://www.ustream.tv/ > channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room - hope to see you there > > Take it easy > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > > > > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > --Apple-Mail-8--104073 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Yup!!!!

Apologies for confusion - damn international = date line

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 4 Jul 2009, = at 21:00, Jim Goodin wrote:

Matt I = think I'm in luck just thought I just missed you but it's tomorrow as in = Sunday no?

On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 2:03 = AM, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com> wrote:
Hey = Guys

Will be ustreaming tomorrow at 8pm BST = at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-= Room - hope to see you there

Take it = easy
=


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www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic
www.myspace.com/jim= goodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
= www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu= sic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigi= tal

social networking...
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= --Apple-Mail-8--104073-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 21:33:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC86E3BE78; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 21:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A4FCAB7.5080007@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:33:43 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: volume frustration References: <18026635.1246734284310.JavaMail.root@n19> In-reply-to: <18026635.1246734284310.JavaMail.root@n19> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <56yRxC.A.ppB.8q8TKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 21:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Michael Peters wrote: > This is probably a stupid question but at the moment I'm not sure where to > look. > > I have this Soloette classical guitar with headphones output. When I plug my > headphones into the guitar, the sound is very bright and loud. But it is > also completely dry. So I plugged it into my Verbzilla to add a bit of > reverb. It works ok as a stompbox under regular circumstances but when I > plug my (stereo) headphones into the (mono) output of the Verbzilla (or the > DL-4, this is true probably for other stompboxes too), the volume is only > half of what it used to be. > > I'm not sure why this happens. Is it due to my dabbling with the stereo/mono > adapters that I use? What would be the optimal way to transfer the two > separate 1/4" jack outputs from the Verbzilla to the one stereo headphone > jack of the headphone? without any loose contact problems? > > Or is it the stompbox itself that reduces the volume? > > -Michael > > > Without knowing the input impedance of the headphones, the output impedance of the Verbzilla, the current drive capability of the Verbzilla, etc. it's hard to tell. A line output won't drive headphones as well as an actual amp designed for the task. Also, if you're sending amono signal directly to both ears of the headphones with what is effectively a Y connection, they are now in parallel and therefor half the impedance of each ear independently driven. That is itself can lower the volume. Feed the verb's outputs to a headphone amp or mixer having a headphone output. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 22:04:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34D4C3BE7C; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 22:04:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246745045; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Zzibd0qXaweCIK8OhSnGQa3jHnE=; b=NuqZiaCEkDQG8abneeu3ZPy3kuEEm7H9kzdKbbQBi2BB3J4qubUMmaP+PGZLkNUl cGHTzqdXXbU9Zbz0/zV701ojXomWpmQEQVDzyl1zpLwLBL/rfVkxIku99XOZFUi3; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=WnzYjt4fAAAA:8 a=8jH2LXOBAGfqBLGzwQQA:9 a=R-1X5iLbU8BdFwjwHOaizvbFLHoA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001d01c9fcf3$585dbb00$85822245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: Ustream gig clip up Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 18:04:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 22:04:06 +0000 (UTC) Here is a clip from todays "Loopydroneyglitchywacky Presents" gig on my Ustream channel. Thanks to all who came out. I don't want to leave anyone out so I'll just say you know who you are! :) http://vimeo.com/5453546 best, Jeff "Was that too melodic?" _ Sonny Sharrock http://jeffduke.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 4 23:30:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35DF03BE73; Sat, 4 Jul 2009 23:30:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A4FE614.2070004@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:30:28 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: re: MY NEW TOY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 23:30:34 +0000 (UTC) Wow, Luis, I just went and watched the NAMM demo of that Pomona 6 Multibender lapsteel you mentioned. It looks incredible. Thanks for mentioning it here. The multibenders allowing you to shift keys and the built in rolling capo make it an amazingly versatile instruments What would such a beast set back a Recession challenged American? Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 00:10:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0963C3BE78; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 00:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:13:50 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: volume frustration To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <2opv45lu6bkp6t1bm8bpmp61l91b4gcmh7@4ax.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090704-0, 04/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 00:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Hi Michael I'll answer this the best I can. As I understand it, there are a few different signal levels used by different audio equipment, and they each have their place. * instrument level - guitar instrument output to effect to amplifier * microphone level -=20 * -10dB line level and +4dB line level. PA, mixer, stereo systems, sound reinforcement, computer sound card, etc. use line level. I'm not entirely sure where headphones fit into this, but I know they need some kind of driver (which must be built into your guitar, but not the Verbzilla). At a guess maybe headphone signal level is classed as line level - anyone who knows better please jump in. The Verbzilla (I love mine) is an instrument level device intended to be used with guitars, other guitar effects, preamps and amplifiers. =20 But not really intended to drive your headphones, nor plug straight into a mixer or PA without some kind of DI or line booster... although you can get away with it. Personally I don't use an amplifier with my main rig, instead I either use line level stereo monitors, or a mixer plugged into whatever sound reinforcement is appropriate... including it's headphone output. =20 To get the best out of my chain of stereo effects I had a custom stereo line booster made to go at the end of the chain. It provides the correct line levels giving a clean loud signal for the mixer, monitors, PA etc. Before I wised up I plugged my FX chain directly into my mixer, then I had to turn the faders right up, but this resulted in a lackluster sound with a lot of background noise, not much fun. I suggest using the instrument output of your guitar into the Verbzilla as intended. Then the Verb's output into a headphone amp or mini amp. The Dan Electro HoneyTone is a pretty good sounding mono amp given it's price and size, a few useful controls and has a headphone output. A few years ago before I got a mixer and monitors for my rig, I used a pair of HoneyTones for stereo effects which was kind of fun for a while. There are pricier more sophistocated headphone amps that would serve you well, so it's really up to you. Cheers -- G. To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: volume frustration =46rom: "Michael Peters" Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 21:00:23 +0200 >This is probably a stupid question but at the moment I'm not sure where = to >look. >I have this Soloette classical guitar with headphones output. When I = plug my >headphones into the guitar, the sound is very bright and loud. But it is >also completely dry. So I plugged it into my Verbzilla to add a bit of >reverb. It works ok as a stompbox under regular circumstances but when I >plug my (stereo) headphones into the (mono) output of the Verbzilla (or = the >DL-4, this is true probably for other stompboxes too), the volume is = only >half of what it used to be. > >I'm not sure why this happens. Is it due to my dabbling with the = stereo/mono >adapters that I use? What would be the optimal way to transfer the two >separate 1/4" jack outputs from the Verbzilla to the one stereo = headphone >jack of the headphone? without any loose contact problems?=20 > >Or is it the stompbox itself that reduces the volume? > >-Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 01:57:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 964093BE73; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 01:57:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <626C9294-DA53-4492-A8A5-55122EC65659@glasswing.com> From: richard sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A4FE614.2070004@cruzio.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-16362672 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 18:56:58 -0700 References: <4A4FE614.2070004@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 01:57:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-16362672 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah I saw these. I think Steiner turned me onto them. It seems like a wise path! So... add it to the list. I did check these out before and they're not horribly expensive. Can't remember how much. Let me know what you learn!!! R richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On Jul 4, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Wow, Luis, > > I just went and watched the NAMM demo of that > Pomona 6 Multibender lapsteel you mentioned. It > looks incredible. Thanks for mentioning it here. > > The multibenders allowing you to shift keys and > the built in rolling capo make it an amazingly versatile instruments > > What would such a beast set back a Recession challenged American? > > Rick > --Apple-Mail-1-16362672 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yeah I saw = these.  I think Steiner turned me onto them.  It seems like a = wise path!

So... add it to the = list. 

I did check these out before and = they're not horribly expensive.  Can't remember how much.  Let = me know what you = learn!!!

R

richard = sales
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
=

On Jul 4, 2009, at = 4:30 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

Wow, = Luis,

I just went and watched the NAMM demo of that
Pomona 6 = Multibender lapsteel you mentioned.   It
looks incredible. =   Thanks for mentioning it here.

The multibenders = allowing you to shift keys and
the built in rolling capo make it an = amazingly versatile instruments

What would such a beast set back = a Recession challenged = American?

Rick









= --Apple-Mail-1-16362672-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 03:28:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 141933BE79; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 03:28:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:28:16 UTC X-Originating-IP: [70.29.22.229] X-Originating-Email: [vaneyck@sympatico.ca] Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:23:14 -0400 From: Trevor Van Eyck User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Oberheim Echoplex Footswitch Momentary Switch Replacement Parts? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jul 2009 03:23:16.0277 (UTC) FILETIME=[EF9F2E50:01C9FD1F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 03:28:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I'm new to the list, so forgive me if this has been covered ad nauseam... I just picked up a used Oberheim Echoplex unit (old White-face version with maxed memory and Loop IV Installed). I've finally got the unit working after resetting all the socketed IC's (it flickered and fluttered and powered up only intermittently at first). The Footswitch however has got faulty switches that need to be replaced (tried cleaning to no avail). My Questions are as follows: 1) Has anyone got a source for the switches? 2) I'm wondering if anyone has tried to install something more heavy duty than those low-profile momentary switches that come stock on the unit? I was considering a big metal plunger style switch (something more like what you find on just about every other effects pedal in existence). I know such a switch in the "momentary" configuration must be available somewhere... Anyone else done a successful switch overhaul on one of these babies? Any advice is much appreciated. Thanks! TREVOR. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 03:57:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5F403BE7C; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 03:57:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: FW: MY NEW TOY became Lap steels. Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:57:14 -0700 Message-ID: <0596C8871C6A4DA4985A5A7665945BF6@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acn9FbIc51iyQeJLQP2IJoNonSOF+AADLMigAAB+alA= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <8-Ll5B.A.mhD.fSCUKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 03:57:19 +0000 (UTC) I've played the Pomona and it is really cool, however for shear sound, the Asher electro Hawaiian, with its chambered mahogany body sounds bigger, more low end, etc, though I loved the palm bender bars, the over all placement of the controls is a major disappointment for me. It has this really cool short throw tone control that allows for quick wah wah type tone swells, but the control itself is tucked back behind the bridge in such a way that you can't get at it quickly and the palm levers are in the way. I don't know why they couldn't have moved all of the controls further up toward the headstock making both the volume and tone controls with in reach of the finger tips as you play? That was a bit curious. The sliding capo is a cool innovation, though I use one of these, on my laps steel http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Accessories/Capos,_slides/Beard_Dobro_Capo.html , and they work well Bill -----Original Message----- From: Rick Walker [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 4:30 PM To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) Subject: re: MY NEW TOY Wow, Luis, I just went and watched the NAMM demo of that Pomona 6 Multibender lapsteel you mentioned. It looks incredible. Thanks for mentioning it here. The multibenders allowing you to shift keys and the built in rolling capo make it an amazingly versatile instruments What would such a beast set back a Recession challenged American? Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 06:21:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 756E13BE77; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 06:21:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 376 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 06:21:58 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=TTkds0/diD25pyXUCGDzsjbmmlUYFmhgepPNOGeIy1I=; b=AAO7GMcu7l8rUFbKK2SWVRyAk0vDAzunBDyhou/AJ213C60fxtksYkibLYOp37rGpS kriEvnvuWqrbAaMjfG/Val3xB6qDhI2PF9RI1ExKewSeiNSordj7zH4zwcm1UVgggr7W S3zl5/KRH3dwVYlWPRjsjQUDSjb3/vzakBeBY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cC3A67hWKygy5sofoX94WWxOXjXFjxR5fnCVVu7xtwhk5Aw04jpXUohjhaZdMBYub5 yDNOd/lN5+6NLLfT0S16nAj2n2Bo80BUDIAO2as/9hi5Jsn3XzeeKU0FyKmRvFQH2OZ1 Mbns2lDBfreM7RYrtlLOE1r9hkmGWorq6mz9Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ian.e.petersen@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4A4FE614.2070004@cruzio.com> References: <4A4FE614.2070004@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 08:15:41 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 69e4cd5ab567132e Message-ID: Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY From: Ian Petersen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b7c6a8cc35046def5143 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 06:21:58 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b7c6a8cc35046def5143 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rick, The multibenders allowing you to shift keys and > the built in rolling capo make it an amazingly versatile instruments > > What would such a beast set back a Recession challenged American? You can get the multibender separately from Rockinger for =80219. That's ab= out 300 USD. Fits any strat or tele style guitar. See http://www.rockinger.com/index.php?cat=3DWG081&product=3D2405C Ian --001636c5b7c6a8cc35046def5143 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Ian
--001636c5b7c6a8cc35046def5143-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 09:46:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 325FA3BE79; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 09:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <000a01c9fcde$8678e920$85822245@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: RE: volume frustration Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:46:30 +0200 Message-ID: <001801c9fd55$79bfcbf0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acn87Ill3FZj9Uj3SUOdma8wiGttQAAaNufA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <000a01c9fcde$8678e920$85822245@YOUR08D5303051> X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.204; VDF: 7.1.4.180) Resent-Message-ID: <5skjnB.A.6bD.7ZHUKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 09:46:35 +0000 (UTC) > The Verzilla is a mono box? no no, it has two 1/4" in and two out -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 09:58:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25B393BE7E; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 09:58:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 225336415/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.188.110/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.188.110 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvgBAE0WUEpPTrxu/2dsb2JhbAAIykSEEgWJMQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,351,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="225336415" Message-ID: <4A507C9C.2010002@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:12:44 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: volume frustration References: <2opv45lu6bkp6t1bm8bpmp61l91b4gcmh7@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <2opv45lu6bkp6t1bm8bpmp61l91b4gcmh7@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 09:58:33 +0000 (UTC) G wrote: > At a guess maybe headphone signal level is classed as > line level - anyone who knows better please jump in. > Well, it *is* possible to make an output that will both work at line level and also drive a set of head-phones. ...but usually a line level output just can't supply the power to drive the phones. Not surprising if you consider that headphones are just small speakers. A lot of cheap devices use have a headphone socket that doubles as line out...can be a source of low quality signal. It's also possible, like in the old Lexicon JamMan to have a hi-fi line level out that will work with phones, but if a device doesn't claim to drive headphones it's very unlikely that it will. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 09:59:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 356AF3BE75; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 09:59:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <2opv45lu6bkp6t1bm8bpmp61l91b4gcmh7@4ax.com> Subject: RE: volume frustration Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:59:13 +0200 Message-ID: <001901c9fd57$4152fe70$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acn9UVW8OPRxoodhQhG5jTcw3TkxKAABcY4A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <2opv45lu6bkp6t1bm8bpmp61l91b4gcmh7@4ax.com> X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.204; VDF: 7.1.4.180) Resent-Message-ID: <7-Qgi.A.w2D._lHUKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 09:59:27 +0000 (UTC) > I suggest using the instrument output of your guitar into the Verbzilla as intended. Then the Verb's output into a headphone amp or mini amp. The Dan Electro HoneyTone is a pretty good sounding mono amp given it's price and size, a few useful controls and has a headphone output. looks good. I ordered one :-) thanks for the suggestion! -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 10:08:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 596B23BE7C; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 10:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 222013431/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.188.110/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.188.110 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvgBAGQYUEpPTrxu/2dsb2JhbAAIykGEEgWJMQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,351,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="222013431" Message-ID: <4A507EDF.2020406@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:22:23 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Oberheim Echoplex Footswitch Momentary Switch Replacement Parts? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 10:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Trevor Van Eyck wrote: > > Hi all, I'm new to the list, so forgive me if this has been covered > ad nauseam... > > I just picked up a used Oberheim Echoplex unit (old White-face > version with maxed memory and Loop IV Installed). I've finally got the > unit working after resetting all the socketed IC's (it flickered and > fluttered and powered up only intermittently at first). The Footswitch > however has got faulty switches that need to be replaced (tried cleaning > to no avail). > > My Questions are as follows: > > 1) Has anyone got a source for the switches? Depends where you are geographically. Your local electronics shop should have something suitable. for US The footswitch part# is: 10PA005 at http://www.mouser.com or 106112 at http://www.jameco.com > > 2) I'm wondering if anyone has tried to install something more heavy > duty than those low-profile momentary switches that come stock on the > unit? I was considering a big metal plunger style switch (something more > like what you find on just about every other effects pedal in > existence). I know such a switch in the "momentary" configuration must > be available somewhere... Anyone else done a successful switch overhaul > on one of these babies? Most serious users use midi control. Keep in mind that a big clunky switch will not respond as fast, and this will mess with the timing of your loops. andy butler > > Any advice is much appreciated. > > Thanks! > > TREVOR. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 13:38:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C8203BE79; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246801100; bh=+fRebaZi0gp4BJJ5rx1ykzpSfaAx3F1sE7EAJQ3ohpA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=BLiOSKBi/91nGw4Ikr/gk1pAdMGpmItybcDUPIdnWYqTzjrnR3ybr+viIGvL66Hec0Q9fPUUa4dBuVmMxhuBb0b2OIzUlI9NP1BLbbIPFuckeW+owEO7BbtcYsnUmx7JetDrYvPDtwoL9kosoBvJkREuX6zpSWBMnM+MtkM5j+M= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QBkmOa/275ua93U0S4zfzM/CC6Z/pREE2fbhpOicr6FxdkLQcblUQ0lZrnpJfBS6DhyYaWgM5XvGKhugnjMSmoolfaYtqhRHd3Xs0hewqMb+qytXAluq9ncs/eaVhYTBw5AHbqZA+QG1wFv4CKax/nVn/yRkWGsYuqY/yL6heWY=; Message-ID: <822866.99031.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:38:20 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: re: MY NEW TOY To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:38:22 +0000 (UTC) yeah bro thats the one i was using when we jammed together at my house you = on the drumset remember?=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Ric= k Walker schrieb am Sa, 4.7.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Rick Wa= lker =0A> Betreff: re: MY NEW TOY=0A> An: "LOOPERS DE= LIGHT (posting)" =0A> Datum: Samstag, = 4. Juli 2009, 16:30=0A> Wow, Luis,=0A> =0A> I just went and watched the NAM= M demo of that=0A> Pomona 6 Multibender lapsteel you=0A> mentioned.=A0=A0= =A0It=0A> looks incredible.=A0=A0=A0Thanks for mentioning it=0A> here.=0A> = =0A> The multibenders allowing you to shift keys and=0A> the built in rolli= ng capo make it an amazingly versatile=0A> instruments=0A> =0A> What would = such a beast set back a Recession challenged=0A> American?=0A> =0A> Rick=0A= > =0A> =0A=0A=0A From aliissa0b20@gmail.com Sun Jul 5 13:45:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.176]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A903BE71 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id l35so580945waf.11 for ; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 06:45:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:content-type; bh=FWT3yoqHop888he2Vl0US4Vv1ZwaH9+24mW0lxHKvlg=; b=usNHZMGaWv2+nH7Dc2bPTGI4CBNQeuL5Y+kmNqvs3gdKQ0vQWPef16KaoQgb4apeVw lOst02H1e55Ztyz63UhDxoVfWY8oPNVm3VbRfZrS6hckf12Y4NOS5qWkuz8Gg1Xc4kPX rqNyxsxCy5ulT1cRDpyEa7QDfvi+csfp/JcqY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:content-type; b=h43ex2Y9PSLYaY//zGIjjhb7XWVmmwURIcMYFI3W6zNcsjTM2cohLn3yQz91ZQucLV JVWtMTxIJ9N8sTtFET+iKRIPq2IBWFKKtRvumoy/DiWJpZUh2M/hpjApLFHz0Y/ePAMU x38gbZ8DuHtwEqCcwgLi4GyytkUrUs8iKI1PY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.211.2 with SMTP id j2mt7030248wag.139.1246801206107; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 06:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: aliissa011@gmail.com Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:40:06 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Please I Need Your Help. 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--00163645853c36f2be046df599d5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 13:47:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CDE93BE81; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:47:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246801633; bh=W8CCXX3gHH6YfMJjmXXJ64ESVbaBXhtx0tedRXZrul0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=raHGeLtd4wVt3lDECCzHJU9d1yetq2PZ5UDggMUEhmjiTWRi3CiS0DwLoqmxiJjYba8irreypojEMH+8oFADTiDbT1zy1No2o4aSWEvR05fX2knjyIJqb5/FfxTSAWG3IHkoGD8iOBrPxB0Y8lxTOaL3sb0r9ZH89p+N1W94M8o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=5Rz5bUEJ+5QAT68JpYGsqd7TzeS0xWglAAPkJufQu3DZYHHeo6WpnLmKEqp8sAcyySJ+jSQLsXZSXaAHZA3Qu2u8opRsLRyvWpEKHCfZXH4i/tAxAtd1R6/m4K+v89HMuyDxvmJxeN8/lKgdqLd5gaUdHyoz3aWwyYAcAXlyXww=; Message-ID: <123988.3568.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:47:13 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-oF3a.A.qCD.i7KUKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:47:14 +0000 (UTC) it aint cheap i also thought about getting a cheapo lapsteel and slapping t= he multibender system on it but i rather invest in quality in case i decide= to sell later, when i tried the pomona i just fell in love with the sound = and its quality,though a Bill Asher Hawaiian Junior with this system and th= e installation cost would probably cost just as much but can kick ass just = as well!=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Ian Petersen schrieb am Sa, 4.7.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Ian Petersen =0A>= Betreff: Re: MY NEW TOY=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Da= tum: Samstag, 4. Juli 2009, 23:15=0A> Rick,=0A> The multibenders allowing y= ou=0A> to shift keys and=0A> =0A> =0A> the built in rolling capo make it an= amazingly versatile=0A> instruments=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> What would such a b= east set back a Recession challenged=0A> American?=0A> You can get the=C2= =A0multibender=0A> separately from Rockinger for =E2=82=AC219. That's about= 300 USD.=0A> Fits any strat or tele style guitar.=0A> =0A> See=C2=A0http:/= /www.rockinger.com/index.php?cat=3DWG081&product=3D2405C=0A> Ian=0A> =0A=0A= =0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 14:34:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93F8C3BE77; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A50B9E0.1000900@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:34:08 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ustream gig clip up References: <9124787.1246745108759.JavaMail.root@n19> In-reply-to: <9124787.1246745108759.JavaMail.root@n19> Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Duke wrote: > Here is a clip from todays "Loopydroneyglitchywacky Presents" gig on > my Ustream channel. Thanks to all who came out. I don't want to leave > anyone out so I'll just say you know who you are! :) > http://vimeo.com/5453546 > best, > Jeff > http://jeffduke.org How do you play using gear that keeps disappearing on you? How do you think when your frontal lobe isn't always there? ;-) Very cool, btw. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 14:39:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 897CE3BE77; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:39:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=784NJGiBW6lTVehdJJnAobladwcCN13ObTYF/nWFxWM=; b=U/5mCWb6ZOEcfdYBIzEMt13FENSiZcNurCrOA8vDWg4hOTIZugg5QuVlEmrhmmd84V znjXoeW8fVFDTioBT1IoOb34tDierG3pyHzmzOe2PceZBCXisK7bYAMeujV3iIMYrJA8 QhA51TzCRIq603ApI5r6F9bx/kU1rk/SwJC/M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=omV2gdzmNd25aXuVOtzF4edzzarOUVMyL3XatF1LX3MZc5YB5l9x1QBxOtKfo95p97 1qIXqEkdIrBuQVEvO3CYZyC0dkdExKoDR0Wa9pWMaOzKBwj5U7mayVMH7ZGwYhEqNAmX slNoKxK+Pdr9Lh2PFJO9Pct4MnDUQXSw8bENQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 10:39:42 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907050739rfec1930nf93641dbdc96ec97@mail.gmail.com> Subject: GigSpam: okay I am going to go live at 11 EST From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a43531738f046df65c57 Resent-Message-ID: <8Vlsw.A.oWE.wsLUKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:39:44 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a43531738f046df65c57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit well as in Friday PM, I changed my mind and am going to do a Sunday Morning at 11 this morning. This is again gong to be a minimal acoustic only performance, looping will return later. Tune in at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 if you are about. On in @20 min - boy I wish I could find some ice tea.... the kitchen is bare today... see some of ya'll maybe... jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a43531738f046df65c57 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well as in Friday PM, I changed my mind and am going to do a Sunday Morning= at 11 this morning. =A0This is again gong to be a minimal acoustic only pe= rformance, looping will return later. =A0Tune in at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunda= y-morning-at-11 if you are about. =A0On in @20 min - boy I wish I could= find some ice tea.... the kitchen is bare today...

see some of ya'll maybe...

--001636c5a43531738f046df65c57-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 14:40:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 251623BE78; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=qZfQucRPs0pG6IYbKkLPomt9rckN1g5Cil58xugU0VkgW76OeYJOLenm9xbDSNGT5PumRu0hLLyJnf1FpFOKNc/HjVtB8FASx61ZaVi8UJf0m0QjWIOCCw+0tuOLeC0gsvuSuuk/lvZY8Z3ufWjwE7idfnyIqu41xic7mzrSPUg= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: OBZs3EUVM1mF5N35u09b.63_pNGxFEhYtnHd5JtnTc.UWJGbVvnRPKDk_3SvTUN2mLUx6Bc_Ewt_KxSS_cC8kuM..JX9tO7obFY0MpAbr5Q74zGn59KzfFonYLnmfLDDnwFC7sDZ7YFR3I3eau2Ey6jfL0VYjVLmCJ07T2HDmm.jSJKArbHnbwhTqq3bkSlSlRtPyZaSFNah_SVO0FxLBj.ziPPf9sEhes0QC2acPsXHlqnBsgE8imPUjFyvWwp.mW1aTMJfQbR09Ku664ucsrmkjPMO3L62sSgI1yL0HmZOzC8q9mfnkrrr X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60907050739rfec1930nf93641dbdc96ec97@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60907050739rfec1930nf93641dbdc96ec97@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9-62192205 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: GigSpam: okay I am going to go live at 11 EST Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 15:40:47 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:40:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9-62192205 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Cool see you in 20 mins Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 5 Jul 2009, at 15:39, Jim Goodin wrote: > well as in Friday PM, I changed my mind and am going to do a Sunday > Morning at 11 this morning. This is again gong to be a minimal > acoustic only performance, looping will return later. Tune in at > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 if you are > about. On in @20 min - boy I wish I could find some ice tea.... > the kitchen is bare today... > > see some of ya'll maybe... > > jim > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > --Apple-Mail-9-62192205 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Cool see you in 20 mins
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On 5 Jul 2009, = at 15:39, Jim Goodin wrote:

well as in = Friday PM, I changed my mind and am going to do a Sunday Morning at 11 = this morning.  This is again gong to be a minimal acoustic only = performance, looping will return later.  Tune in at http://www.ust= ream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 if you are about.  On in = @20 min - boy I wish I could find some ice tea.... the kitchen is bare = today...

see some of ya'll = maybe...

jim

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ReUse, = an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music = links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com<= br>www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmu= sic
www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic
www.myspace.com/jim= goodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
<= a = href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu= sic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigi= tal

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmu= sic


= --Apple-Mail-9-62192205-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 14:50:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 319A43BE73; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:50:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246805438; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=8PyxG+FdgCy0CcwQfFVnrDr8OgU=; b=f7SG8ICy/FtLDm2vBbSrke1sZhbWlnHCLmWS+n8jwcKyowMNSXM7EluSpA2O35ZU XyQkxZUsP9+nhzD6SgEGJ96XSZ3FnEUuKBJVtqK7RFXYabow+kZFbiyEgKZB0DJP; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=WnzYjt4fAAAA:8 a=tP4VpsYDHoYLH3LD4ccA:9 a=Ug6N-jcdnkx7PmltM1fId1rbDUYA:4 a=uj0SzULJ_bsA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601c9fd7f$f4b0ef40$85822245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9124787.1246745108759.JavaMail.root@n19> <4A50B9E0.1000900@soundscapes.us> Subject: Re: Ustream gig clip up Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 10:50:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:50:39 +0000 (UTC) Think?! sigh...i knew there was something i forgot to do, thanks Bill..hmmm, think, think, think...yes j you said: >How do you think when your frontal lobe isn't always there? ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Fox" To: Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 10:34 AM Subject: Re: Ustream gig clip up > Jeff Duke wrote: >> Here is a clip from todays "Loopydroneyglitchywacky Presents" gig on my >> Ustream channel. Thanks to all who came out. I don't want to leave anyone >> out so I'll just say you know who you are! :) >> http://vimeo.com/5453546 >> best, >> Jeff >> http://jeffduke.org > How do you play using gear that keeps disappearing on you? How do you > think when your frontal lobe isn't always there? ;-) > > Very cool, btw. > > Cheers, > > Bill > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 16:51:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3C343BE78; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 16:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 338 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:51:00 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=hVrOeHnxzXMye/VNIQ289niT5sev8tReNiG9lUQ84TE=; b=qQ7NaL6z68w3qDiXk9XfUZap4MjgkMYd3e8fuIDenYFGTizFWARhbRW/uPB/jEKSLB SGCPGp+7G/pe2p8S8OEkyXYHQPf+FvFMczkFVao+NVSUUrEiWBnX59w18ioahQNqmVPN mRM2C8IPehKL3uOUtcwOGRk90mRkVJV9MddhI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=a3IXxjLDf5euvE3YlmHEz5aP/hGuSHb4OEXozfvYnKiCw9JILC2VQzeMXbfOeZ8+QY W3it/X2kAqME3DbGTifaUgjlrXthAuNotzVuvanFIVgnyfTVBTE3+nP0ImK2xDBBCsya h/zpuJZhdGupbha4KrOZ/x+bVWZ7FhnIiHf/k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 10:45:20 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Venue Database and possible Los Angeles venues? From: Dennis Moser To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364271c6779809046df81dfa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 16:51:00 +0000 (UTC) --0016364271c6779809046df81dfa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey gang ... I remember (and darn it if I can find it again!) seeing a database page of various looper-friendly venues. If someone has that info handy, could they repost it? I'm asking because I am going to be in Los Angeles the weekend of 1 August to perform at the Bandit Gallery, in the Echo Park area of Los Angeles. I'm inviting everyone to come, but I'm also looking to see if it is possible to line up some additional performances (to help defray the cost of getting out there and back) on Friday and/or Sunday. I'll be reposting details of the gallery gig a little later this week. Thanks! Dennis -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --0016364271c6779809046df81dfa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey gang ... I remember (and darn it if I can find it again!) seeing a data= base page of various looper-friendly venues. If someone has that info handy= , could they repost it?

I'm asking because I am going to be in L= os Angeles the weekend of 1 August to perform at the Bandit Gallery, in the= Echo Park area of Los Angeles. I'm inviting everyone to come, but I= 9;m also looking to see if it is possible to line up some additional perfor= mances (to help defray the cost of getting out there and back) on Friday an= d/or Sunday.

I'll be reposting details of the gallery gig a little later this we= ek.

Thanks!

Dennis

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--0016364271c6779809046df81dfa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 17:35:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F2973BE75; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 17:35:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=HSMXDIf0uUvm34r9i1H2UjqETJNvulu0sX+nzJ06NIs=; b=VeCLjjJtgRzbMfZJOIVM3K03u+EZIXnlgHHbROUPk4QnfnQVJ2lZ2mlwvQCjhWYaBO UReaMbBgifHAASKpRi/WCei6mlL/ivpyrddj/iKUS4MHFdvjF9cxv0YBIFSJfkTYFEoZ F+l2tK/o8wvMWzUEvgEa7InyzXCPiXIYwBnok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=b9ldKg2QdOovHPHUYF2EWQFyhbzWyxj/uK/DpL8EjvxSKeL9hjkXA6uZUV/1I3UKie SZYlPL9y9AzdhwJ8tW/EQNpJ4gN5qENC7Jv9vkraK1RWHpOhq1aoK2gTkquAMTvJ4jm9 5cJFcgqTd7rNZlQbBRCtrysEqQy8Hf8UwqwCI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:34:59 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Electrix MoFX : Is it worth it? From: Dennis Moser To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367f96e00e7099046df8cf27 Resent-Message-ID: <1SAnMD.A.mp.FROUKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 17:35:02 +0000 (UTC) --0016367f96e00e7099046df8cf27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know there has been discussion of these; given that Electrix is technically gone and "pining for the fjords", would anyone using one now replace theirs if it died? I'm looking at a couple now and could use some hands-on experience reviews .... Thanks! Dennis -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --0016367f96e00e7099046df8cf27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know there has been discussion of these; given that Electrix is technical= ly gone and "pining for the fjords", would anyone using one now r= eplace theirs if it died? I'm looking at a couple now and could use som= e hands-on experience reviews ....

Thanks!

Dennis

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--0016367f96e00e7099046df8cf27-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 17:37:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB61C3BE77; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 17:37:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=L3HOePwRxGPjVJ/NjKLweMFbkIL+91vsqGZsCA6gIpc=; b=A+Ur108GWFU+rHhxMH2qI8AR5gD/GMWs1ddBOl6yigfQOvOvYq8KIiO8hfeN2IuOer 9BWNg0D81IMaAK474ugXdds0RzUhIpA2SvaqpLmtJDFsA1kVkN7FTLnzfH70CzWKUIg2 Z82p8CNMBpHXuY5fE7xa+rYbdNjchiY16h2Kk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XBsTJRoUy6ik4wRwTAftgg0Fld68Rrb3Xr5Z3ReXxxDIot08ToiAukFCnc01slKS9J IeOxSs8sSx67Yxy7eec9CGjKeOfzObCIF8CF6SbQXMKIjkxofwEokLU3sdYByiNtGbgi 15gNbARKZfTaYD+Bai77bVYcptlB+2HEpAvfg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:37:34 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907051037m598ac4cbj7dad8264a8fa7bd1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Venue Database and possible Los Angeles venues? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a57b42e8f1046df8d860 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 17:37:37 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a57b42e8f1046df8d860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dennis try Echo Curio in Echo Park, Daryl and I played there last October. He's on the road currently but I'm sure can get you the contact later. J On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > Hey gang ... I remember (and darn it if I can find it again!) seeing a > database page of various looper-friendly venues. If someone has that info > handy, could they repost it? > > I'm asking because I am going to be in Los Angeles the weekend of 1 August > to perform at the Bandit Gallery, in the Echo Park area of Los Angeles. I'm > inviting everyone to come, but I'm also looking to see if it is possible to > line up some additional performances (to help defray the cost of getting out > there and back) on Friday and/or Sunday. > > I'll be reposting details of the gallery gig a little later this week. > > Thanks! > > Dennis > > -- > http://myspace.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a57b42e8f1046df8d860 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dennis try Echo Curio in Echo Park, Daryl and I played there last October. = =A0He's on the road currently but I'm sure can get you the contact = later.

J

On Sun, Jul 5= , 2009 at 12:45 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey gang ... I remember (and darn it if I c= an find it again!) seeing a database page of various looper-friendly venues= . If someone has that info handy, could they repost it?

I'm asking because I am going to be in Los Angeles the weekend of 1= August to perform at the Bandit Gallery, in the Echo Park area of Los Ange= les. I'm inviting everyone to come, but I'm also looking to see if = it is possible to line up some additional performances (to help defray the = cost of getting out there and back) on Friday and/or Sunday.

I'll be reposting details of the gallery gig a little later this we= ek.

Thanks!

Dennis
<= br>--
http://m= yspace.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com=
http://usrsla= shsbin.angrek.com/



--
ReUse, an intros= pective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--001636c5a57b42e8f1046df8d860-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 18:12:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96F3F3BE79; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:12:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=qfBfEMU4tbH1N+RSEMCxmPvu+vWkPkUYQ0Zl9X7UiTr/bcEQfiWugUGMNIQim0V3UlhoxM0K+0JRRmq0I8AVWNx4Wl24LKyKLNSeaSZgRVAoyFWiDZIDeVjB9F+5dboNYaavDzdaL0gi81O3NSzPIKPREX+pzwODtSHYM7PZl+k= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: r3stkYsVM1mR8DxpAEkJ.yiyi_Imds6elW7vHeWJ22RzRWxDVLf_VKKdiP1WOtnKyFxJgb3onh0VhIoBnrfshKnp_PzUXf.vsCJWDuHe0fmMNI.1rl3_hqvAAzmWMBn2PWzJTDd8gwW0I548ge15kEpet4FLYifZY05OJHPEM3l5GeL7cP1gNt1F0NzLicU4GQ4.Oj45_alVmN9S_4fOVirobdZj06RiECK6129ABJKPgGfOYm0syisw4jFSEoYwMTnaFlKiVCfxor6JJxp4VZU.kovdUjoux0pxL9Ageb.5O9rn66EpOGAk5L.Ql1NnSzB9JzI5_N9tiLi1QeJC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <4F5901D4-504C-4480-9B8D-3869D905EEFC@btinternet.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11-74895447 From: Matt Stevens Subject: Ustream Gig Spam again Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:12:31 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <8_TsKD.A.PvB.X0OUKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:12:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-11-74895447 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Playing live here in 50 minutes http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt- Stevens-From-The-Box-Room. Wonderful sets from Jim and Steve earlier. Ta Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-11-74895447 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Playing live here in 50 minutes http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room.  Wonderful sets from Jim and Steve earlier.

Ta

Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




--Apple-Mail-11-74895447-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 18:39:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E16E3BE79; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 14:35:41 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: OT orchestral samples In-Reply-To: <4F5901D4-504C-4480-9B8D-3869D905EEFC@btinternet.com> References: <4F5901D4-504C-4480-9B8D-3869D905EEFC@btinternet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20090705183858.F0BA3247D4@ns3.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Ok, I'm pretty ignorant about sample players but I have played some of the instruments through Reason and they sound pretty darn good, notably the cello, bassoon and clarinet. So I wondered if anyone can say how the samples in Kontakt 3 compare? I was getting ready to purchase a copy of Reason but with this sale on NI Komplete, I may go that way instead, but the main reason I'd get it at the moment would be to access these sorts of samples. Paul Haslem Ontario, Canada www.dulcify.ca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 18:54:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F10F3BE7E; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:54:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7yho9ALei9dlHGL1u+3pvGVbkdalyjqOOaOWqqCyEBI=; b=QbXR/n2X7fRA+zLn6dLmt5PtFCanzlbpDNtMxXJB1xISeyFC6bI1eU/FtKqNC6eg4j +ZUWv46jsjlcxAcb/0A+6AiOTtnCRMpeXvemC7MjMQuHlSQCg1/9byuUT5yOmC2OdX3P EKD+7XclqMT+gYNHXZ0y+VoeMxI+NSxERM/3c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Xe2d3NzYdK+L2obtuHdyZZe0+JlQr95njZlqMDdobTEtV1YniACdGtu8j4rVtRa192 z3k6CUrqqnOm3lDRnN4y/T+Wq6TzcYkrN+5oPC4ukQUIjtKIhH3qXY2mWvX+cIm8tlhQ Dxk9tKM0OLxv654G42yQTvMn2tqj0JeMpuzyw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60907051037m598ac4cbj7dad8264a8fa7bd1@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60907051037m598ac4cbj7dad8264a8fa7bd1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 12:54:25 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Venue Database and possible Los Angeles venues? From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ee4a81d51f5046df9ebfe Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:54:26 +0000 (UTC) --0016364ee4a81d51f5046df9ebfe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, Jim ... I'll see if I can reach Daryl, too, about who to contact there. Anyone else on Los Angeles venues? Thanks! Dennis On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Dennis try Echo Curio in Echo Park, Daryl and I played there last October. > He's on the road currently but I'm sure can get you the contact later. > J > > > On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > >> Hey gang ... I remember (and darn it if I can find it again!) seeing a >> database page of various looper-friendly venues. If someone has that info >> handy, could they repost it? >> >> I'm asking because I am going to be in Los Angeles the weekend of 1 August >> to perform at the Bandit Gallery, in the Echo Park area of Los Angeles. I'm >> inviting everyone to come, but I'm also looking to see if it is possible to >> line up some additional performances (to help defray the cost of getting out >> there and back) on Friday and/or Sunday. >> >> I'll be reposting details of the gallery gig a little later this week. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Dennis >> >> -- >> http://myspace.com/usrsbin >> http://audiozoloft.com >> http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ >> > > > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --0016364ee4a81d51f5046df9ebfe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Jim ... I'll see if I can reach Daryl, too, about who to contac= t there.

Anyone else on Los Angeles venues?

Thanks!

De= nnis

On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Jim= Goodin <j= imgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Dennis try Echo C= urio in Echo Park, Daryl and I played there last October. =A0He's on th= e road currently but I'm sure can get you the contact later.

J


On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Dennis Moser &= lt;sinsofmacha= ut@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey gang ... I re= member (and darn it if I can find it again!) seeing a database page of vari= ous looper-friendly venues. If someone has that info handy, could they repo= st it?

I'm asking because I am going to be in Los Angeles the weekend of 1= August to perform at the Bandit Gallery, in the Echo Park area of Los Ange= les. I'm inviting everyone to come, but I'm also looking to see if = it is possible to line up some additional performances (to help defray the = cost of getting out there and back) on Friday and/or Sunday.

I'll be reposting details of the gallery gig a little later this we= ek.

Thanks!

Dennis
<= br>--
http://m= yspace.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com=
http://usrsla= shsbin.angrek.com/



--
ReUs= e, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music link= s...
www.jim= goodinmusic.com
www.chinapa= intingmusic.com
www.mys= pace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.= myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.c= om/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...=
www.vim= eo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic




--
http://myspace.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com
http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
--0016364ee4a81d51f5046df9ebfe-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 18:56:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8B6D3BE73; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=07MOlfVxFXjoExAQG6HMtQE/gRKicvsL3XTtVGQsM3c=; b=jh8ydfUqDVy7KtKAQrbbAdIbyaseYgWqGOG5Xz+2hWbQwRBViV0Uo7D8MkvOdMm5SW PpY7yEJep2K6a1dWjJbiQAJMHYeT8tNHS/oCIHGLkcCxgtQExarGf7BELJ6k3JQKVOA6 qeGAu4FZaFvQm94QGjLjTOXIvfHdENAqCE418= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=l1O5E2aAJWcp16Ic2Momi7kZ45zM8VcWwwHYoPVmxfw9SZZtSyQPBEQs27ul9Mtcn+ mMkVHrU/ZZ2eLfr6bS4GB4+qGN2gVllMSx+Eh8isVZEtJtgl8V5mLSJsJJS7qQGA5Nke xbc2b85WyFtQI/5+cyGRspZI3wbiP39it4ynU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4F5901D4-504C-4480-9B8D-3869D905EEFC@btinternet.com> References: <4F5901D4-504C-4480-9B8D-3869D905EEFC@btinternet.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:56:23 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907051156v4f13c3d7k2fa27fdc718c730a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ustream Gig Spam again From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5ad512af48b046df9f2f7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:56:25 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5ad512af48b046df9f2f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit matt thx see you shortly On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Matt Stevens < mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > Playing live here in 50 minutes > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room. Wonderful > sets from Jim and Steve earlier. > Ta > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5ad512af48b046df9f2f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable matt thx see you shortly

On Sun, Jul 5, 2= 009 at 2:12 PM, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>= wrote:
Playing live here in 50 minutes http://www.ustream.tv/chann= el/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room. =A0Wonderful sets from Jim and Steve= earlier.




--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural= journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

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--001636c5ad512af48b046df9f2f7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 5 19:24:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CA633BE75; Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 428 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:24:36 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WGXOmC3AxIdAzXWaxdbYjBv+NL6hk6jgrIhHg8OASN8=; b=cfVSkYW6pPs7o90NB2e5E6Kku0n0lxJYqYyNEQW+U9aEpsHY+Z5NEZvafx74LEFWDV krMXWwBT72GmWfA4fORAANq9eWbVDQyhuiW8N8x8j5/VNRK5Y+aHadBl4fMUIRcwmFOA +VnsOkXEfynDtPbI9jRy05wZdfhwHmoA2CORY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vfHE3D2zlM7PHQV0jEEQuA7RceadnRcTOaNsQYXRFSHxFtD/Tg6x0EiwJ30GOeVSax Rth46yW9bXr1y+sYoi4jH8P87yyKfPXqphSVQ4dLO5lHiOdhRMiPGfdQRBAzKkMm1Rvl JHDiQ6LApYyyF5jrLfuzbaLrE5DvUz+whiBKY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090705183858.F0BA3247D4@ns3.tnt21.com> References: <4F5901D4-504C-4480-9B8D-3869D905EEFC@btinternet.com> <20090705183858.F0BA3247D4@ns3.tnt21.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 21:17:27 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907051217y77082773p8a98e5c5a51eeb7f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT orchestral samples From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Hi Paul, I have owned Kontakt for many years. Bought it back in 2003 in order to achieve 5.1 surround effect instruments, since that wasn't yet implemented in Logic back then. I also have Reason 3. Kontakt offers a lot better fidelity than Reason, that's the first thing I want to state! Comparing these two is not really fair I think, Kontakt is just playing in a much higher division. I have not upgraded to Kontakt 3 but am still using Kontakt 2.2.4.001, because from what I heard the most significant difference in Kontakt 3 is that it comes with a very big "meat and potato" sample library. And that's exactly what I don't need as much as I need free hard disc space to record to ;-)) As for sample instruments I already have the few I want to use, and it seems that the sampler functionality in K3 is not much better then in K2. Okay, the next statement needed here is that Kontakt is a damn great sampler! Probably the best available. In the past it could interfere with limited CPU recourses of your computer, but that has changed as we all now. For a while I did not use Kontakt because I felt sick knowing about NI's licensing regulations, but I'm happy to notice the company has totally changed that now. You can now change computer and move the software license with you to the new machine. No iLok support yet AFAIK. Some orchestral sample patches that come with Kontakt are from the Vienna STrings series and they sound awesome! I've heard, from folks that own the real Vienna package, that the difference is not the samples but the big amount of multi sound instrument patches you get in the Vienna box. For example all kinds of layers set up in a smart way like having normal violin section tone and fading into tremolo or drill tone section by the modulation wheel - etc, etc... Seems the original Vienna box is perfect for media composers that spend months churning out orchestra-in-a-box music for video games and stuff. If you want just the great orchestral sound they sound just as good in Kontakt. The effects in Kontakt are also very good. I've used it lately for playing EWI by MIDI in a Bidule hosted livelooping rig and then I could route all kind of feedback machine effects within my individual Kontakt patches. Very cool and useful IMHO. It has good compressors, distortion, delays, reverb, phaser and a lot more. And you can route effects as insert or as send-return loops. Kontakt 3 also has a better support for fixed micro tunings than before, another good thing IMO. Finally, Kontakt can import patches from most other samplers on the market. You will rarely be "on the wrong platform" for buying whatever sample library you may want in the future. Personally I wish there was an even cheaper deal that would let you buy Kontakt 3 without that extensive sample library. It's a lot of good and top quality sounds but only "those usual" sounds. Great value for a pro media music composer and producer, though. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 8:35 PM, paul wrote: > Ok, I'm pretty ignorant about sample players but I have played some of th= e > instruments through Reason and they sound pretty darn good, notably the > cello, bassoon and clarinet. So I wondered if anyone can say how the samp= les > in Kontakt 3 =C2=A0compare? I was getting ready to purchase a copy of Rea= son but > with this sale on NI Komplete, I may go that way instead, but the main > reason I'd get it at the moment would be to access these sorts of samples= . > > Paul Haslem > Ontario, Canada > www.dulcify.ca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 00:36:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46F0D3BE86; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 00:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A514710.507@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:36:32 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Venue Database and possible Los Angeles venues? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 00:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Dennis, Mark's excellent venue database is here: http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=525 Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Hey gang ... I remember (and darn it if I can find it again!) seeing a > database page of various looper-friendly venues. If someone has that > info handy, could they repost it? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 00:48:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 977B33BE89; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 00:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:51:35 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V09 #528 In-reply-to: <20090705165101.A10C23BE81@arsenic.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090704-0, 04/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <20090705165101.A10C23BE81@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 00:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: RE: volume frustration =46rom: "Michael Peters" Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:59:13 +0200 ... >> I suggest using the instrument output of your guitar into the = Verbzilla as >>intended. Then the Verb's output into a headphone amp or mini amp. The= Dan >>Electro HoneyTone is a pretty good sounding mono amp given it's price = and >>size, a few useful controls and has a headphone output. =20 >looks good. I ordered one :-) thanks for the suggestion! >-Michael You're welcome, let us know how it goes. -- G. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 02:22:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8913E3BE85; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 02:22:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246846962; bh=ZXduzNp56fxIzV3rdu/SCzcGTWz5e+NR9wLmBezhSgs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3oWj4d9t8RFnr/q+F8skeL38pY23bT/BmIQqb7tCiBYjlgpx2dEgxEF+wahakrtUDZ2IpDwtkaXaXxpYmfQMBOBao7u2cTDMulE+O1f9s/Ek/uIM8a6vNO5k8wG4iWJgFQiStbo9O7YWhTC43N6dI2gATI5gkOsuGitEjCr0OT0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G7oxGKpKB6RRkdwRrWPAqpDY4RLLH8tHpHxbX2/2VX+4ldp3/sxMLveZ/0QcjJNh4O6fu9dvaVoNmjDcDnx+IXKta059ppUXUh6BBcgs0o1F3RrBlE/1ZcVu5SwtjVrYsOVC3ermQSB8AUoGHSbJzj76R3vNye/OX9fyPNaJb2g=; Message-ID: <830062.83203.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aSt.P_0VM1krd.1BlgrJb0T4._sIk5.FDVj1N5VtKeEVs7wyzi6evxlm7L7D_ANaX1CABSR_5sf7PY1ER7j_4edw5eYJPogLBj0IOeWl.x10QCXQyq4RLnyDHTT3Kt1te1bjUyb7w48PG_bI1MBwgorAZ9QTpPQ50r9X3ipMcRDC6HYTNS8L7OPibWTfsAAR1bMsfnLc1f9shxZciGAymQBpG5wqBVE6VcZPvzwH7KAf7LF2GPaJZZeM0sef9Gf5nIBj5gR238SwaAnaIL83sDUp2t_728vdedlCA4EVrBZLZHIHqYs4LsxHx13dKhLQZkHd X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:22:41 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: Saw Bill Frisell tonight (July 6) in Iowa City for IC Jazz Fest To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1698384245-1246846961=:83203" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 02:22:45 +0000 (UTC) --0-1698384245-1246846961=:83203 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, I missed him when he played here back in 2000, b/c i was in the middle of a move, but got to see him tonight.The funny thing is he looked older than pictures i remember of him, but then i thought that my memory is probably pictures from early 90s, a long time ago! My main thoughts when i saw him was he sounded kind of "jazzy" and he was very melodic playing w/ drums, bass, & i think a trumpet player; The funny thing I thought as i watched was thinking of all the on-line boards i'm on (too many!) is people asking, "oh i want a jazz sound, which semi-hollow guitar & amp should i get, bla bla bla..." & I thought well, Bill Frisell sounded pretty jazzy to me & he was playing a blonde Telecaster & a small Fender amp. He played for about an hour & 15 min, The 1st 3 songs he played took about 50 min-in that time he did about 3 little loop things, sort of noise-based (some scratching-extended playing stuff), at times it was clean tele sounds, another time it sounded like a piano for a second. When he was playing these, i think the audience was wondering what was up? Not sure if they got it or not, but his loops do make nice transitions in his compositions. The other thing I noticed from watching behind the stage (i was able to be in shade & i didn't bring a lawn chair so i could sit on steps of Old Captiol Building) was that he mostly played facing his band, and also for the most part is his guitar was facing to the back, so that I & everyone else could see his guitar (& hands from 40 some ft back)-the main audience would mostly see his left side and the back of his guitar neck. I could see that he was using a Line 6 Delay Pedal (green one) for his loops. I think he also had a distortion box of some kind (couldn't see it)-but the main thing i thought was his sound was pretty clean and sparse (I kept thinking I PLAY W/ MORE EFFECTS!). --0-1698384245-1246846961=:83203 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Well, I missed him when he played here back in 2000, b/c i was in the middle of a move, but got to see him tonight.The funny thing is he looked older than pictures i remember of him, but then i thought that my memory is probably pictures from early 90s, a long time ago!
My main thoughts when i saw him was he sounded kind of "jazzy" and he was very melodic playing w/ drums, bass, & i think a trumpet player; The funny thing I thought as i watched was thinking of all the on-line boards i'm on (too many!) is people asking, "oh i want a jazz sound, which semi-hollow guitar & amp should i get, bla bla bla..." & I thought well, Bill Frisell sounded pretty jazzy to me & he was playing a blonde Telecaster & a small Fender amp. He played for about an hour & 15 min, The 1st 3 songs he played took about 50 min-in that time he did about 3 little loop things, sort of noise-based (some scratching-extended playing stuff), at times it was clean tele sounds, another time it sounded like a piano for a second. When he was playing these, i think the audience was wondering what was up? Not sure if they got it or not, but his loops do make nice transitions in his compositions.
The other thing I noticed from watching behind the stage (i was able to be in shade & i didn't bring a lawn chair so i could sit on steps of Old Captiol Building) was that he mostly played facing his band, and also for the most part is his guitar was facing to the back, so that I & everyone else could see his guitar (& hands from 40 some ft back)-the main audience would mostly see his left side and the back of his guitar neck. I could see that he was using a Line 6 Delay Pedal (green one) for his loops. I think he also had a distortion box of some kind (couldn't see it)-but the main thing i thought was his sound was pretty clean and sparse (I kept thinking I PLAY W/ MORE EFFECTS!).

--0-1698384245-1246846961=:83203-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 02:39:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFBA73BE87; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 02:39:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246847965; bh=eRb47RQ8FmKGlelDo2GZaR4JSMBSA3NDvTVuvv9BaUY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ps479ICBHIvzqO1jMpW6D9jqZpg7gMPPwX+mFE6ETD6FCYdf5CmOp8XJwa1AXxDpqiTF1wnxhk6TFU6Ea5aBFnwuW9vNTbo0kAJelUoNlJRLq4ix1Lie7b9CHY4zk9nzyBgoHArgjm18s7yhKdOkjb8uf8xKfI3iibF8py3tkfg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IOFrW6NJfxla8cIBmczfbj5K0gNQ/TaMFdB6B0CYrI612Qfx3222hoWI5xOJyTeWE0i9FCY/DdpcSZjsQmpWa1ZblWPGSsrwSOYC6SC9+QGNiCN9fnlrgDFbuhD05iW+T7WISATNeuXfWrpOrLYSeptCGlJ/JVRso8a3ZfGZoZY=; Message-ID: <977656.88830.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: pQ4dWJUVM1n2_pY06ANZ1qdGbMypRapqVGDBndjnHVmgjueL3vUuq.aroSF3Va1oSHYKMUK3FnQh3IeWJ5MqJfZDCMvTZuyxXpYAsz3MtVUI9qdciNmaJN_9EjX3ASvwXUTOEXCZbTgoYdtiFt4Ir7zNSqUN4JrNiLjN1lmuLHKtSS8u3RkuhQPLzNSlegZ0bbKB6.ootLM7srkykHuNkZ9zThdXY94AEPhWOxUxChm4lm2_VlE1afnlrx9lTK3JZOqGeLkQo8cQ.UeYuwiI0NwjUvx.lXO_jBRTaX0KGxAAO.n5v_Nz0IKvcNwye3NygbGemr.t5ZxJOhHWRe05TKd8.sd3cnkibUm6etQrwn55 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:39:25 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: Saw BILL FRISELL Tonight (July 5) in Iowa City @ IC Jazz Fest To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-277096998-1246847965=:88830" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 02:39:26 +0000 (UTC) --0-277096998-1246847965=:88830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sorry-1st one got sent accidentally... =A0 Saw Bill Frisell Tonight (July 5) in Iowa City @ IC Jazz Fest =A0 Well, I missed him when he played here back in 2000, b/c i was in the middl= e of a move, but got to see him tonight.The funny thing is he looked older = than pictures i remember of him, but then i thought that my memory is proba= bly pictures from early 90s, a long time ago! My main thoughts when i saw him was he sounded kind of "jazzy" and he was v= ery melodic playing w/ drums, bass, & i think a trumpet player; The funny t= hing I thought as i watched was thinking of all the on-line boards i'm on (= too many!) is people asking, "oh i want a jazz sound, which semi-hollow gui= tar & amp should i get, bla bla bla..." & I thought well, Bill Frisell soun= ded pretty jazzy to me & he was playing a blonde Telecaster & a small Fende= r amp. He played for about an hour & 15 min, The 1st 3 songs he played took= about 50 min-in that time he did 3 little loop things, sort of noise-based= (some scratching-extended playing stuff), at times it was clean tele sound= s, another time it sounded like a piano for a second. When he was playing t= hese, i think the audience was wondering what was up? Not sure if they got = it or not, but his loops do make nice transitions in his compositions. The other thing I noticed from watching behind the stage (i was able to be = in shade & i didn't bring a lawn chair so i could sit on steps of Old Capit= ol Building) was that he mostly played facing his band, and for the most pa= rt=A0 his guitar was facing to the back, so that I & everyone else behind s= tage=A0could see his guitar (& hands from 40 some ft back)-the main audienc= e would mostly see his left side and the back of his guitar neck. I could s= ee that he was using a Line 6 Delay Pedal (green one) for his loops. I thin= k he also had a distortion box of some kind (couldn't see it)-but the main = thing i thought was his sound was pretty clean and sparse (I kept thinking:= I PLAY W/ MORE EFFECTS!). The other thing i noticed was he played a barre = chord twice that I saw! I should say that all the songs he played i recogni= zed the melody, etc, but since i rarely remember titles of stuff, I couldn'= t connect a song to a title. He seemed to be really enjoying himself & his band, and they had some good interaction-especially during his little = loop things. The last thing was when he was done, he put his Tele in a soft= case and turned off his amp, & started to collect his pedals-no roadies fo= r him!! =A0 sorry for the choppy/disorganized review...just some quick notes i remember= ... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen=0A=0A=0A --0-277096998-1246847965=:88830 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
sorry-1st one got sent accidentally...
 
Saw Bill Frisell Tonight (July 5) in Iowa City @ IC Jazz Fest
 
Well, I missed him when he played here back in 2000, b/c i was in the = middle of a move, but got to see him tonight.The funny thing is he looked o= lder than pictures i remember of him, but then i thought that my memory is = probably pictures from early 90s, a long time ago!
My main thoughts when i saw him was he sounded kind of "jazzy" and he = was very melodic playing w/ drums, bass, & i think a trumpet player; Th= e funny thing I thought as i watched was thinking of all the on-line boards= i'm on (too many!) is people asking, "oh i want a jazz sound, which semi-h= ollow guitar & amp should i get, bla bla bla..." & I thought well, = Bill Frisell sounded pretty jazzy to me= & he was playing a blonde Telecaster & a small Fender amp. He play= ed for about an hour & 15 min, The 1st 3 songs he played took about 50 = min-in that time he did 3 little loop things, sort of noise-based (some scr= atching-extended playing stuff), at times it was clean tele sounds, another= time it sounded like a piano for a second. When he was playing these, i th= ink the audience was wondering what was up? Not sure if they got it or not, but his loops do make nice transitions in his compositions.
The other thing I noticed from watching behind the stage (i was able t= o be in shade & i didn't bring a lawn chair so i could sit on steps of = Old Capitol Building) was that he mostly played facing his band, and for th= e most part  his guitar was facing to the back, so that I & everyo= ne else behind stage could see his guitar (& hands from 40 some ft= back)-the main audience would mostly see his left side and the back of his= guitar neck. I could = see that he was using a Line 6 Delay Pedal (green one) for his loops. I thi= nk he also had a distortion box of some kind (couldn't see it)-but the main= thing i thought was his sound was pretty clean and sparse (I kept thinking= : I PLAY W/ MORE EFFECTS!). The other thing i noticed was he played a barre= chord twice that I saw! I should say that all the songs he played i recogn= ized the melody, etc, but since i rarely remember titles of stuff, I couldn't connect a song to a title. He seemed to be really enjoying himsel= f & his band, and they had some good interaction-especially during his = little loop things. The last thing was when he was done, he put his Tele in= a soft case and turned off his amp, & started to collect his pedals-no= roadies for him!!
 
sorry for the choppy/disorganized review...just some quick notes i rem= ember...
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= =0A=0A --0-277096998-1246847965=:88830-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 04:53:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BA6D3BE79; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 04:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A518330.4050005@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:53:04 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Electrix MoFX : Is it worth it? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 04:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Dear Dennis, I have to go on record and say that I love the Electrix MoFX. Just like the Electrix Repeater (which is the only unit on earth that allows one to be able to make any sampled sound a chromatic instrument with sample and tempo stretching) it does a couple of things better than almost anything out there. The effects in the MoFX are fairly mundane, but the use of the drum machine styled buttons and the ability to tempo drive the effects using a MIDI interface, sets it apart from almost anything else I can think of. The fact that the large drum machine styled 'play' button can either have a positive or a negative function (in other words it can turn the effect on when you use it momentarily or turn the effect off depending on how you set it) is just wonderful. Ways, I use it are putting small amounts of distortion on it, narrowing the bandwidth, and then suddenly bringing in the full unadulterated sound at precise rhythmic moments...............fantastic for real time production ideas in things like hip hop and drum and bass. ........setting up square wave tremelos at very high and rhythmically specific rates (32nd notes, etc.) so that you can make things 'trill' at appropriate rhythmical places...............then being able to change the rates with which the square wave tremelos work. All of these things are fantastic and really useful for resampling and relooping. One of my favorite set ups now, uses one DL4 before my effects pedals to loop a pure instrument sound then pass it through whatever effects (including the MoFX and the Filter Factory which works similarly) then putting a second DL4 on the back side of that to be able to loop the 'effected sounds' then running all of it into my little VOX and ROLAND battery powered guitar and bass amps, micing it all and then running it through the Looperlative LP-1 as a final way of slicing, dicing and arrangeing the piece of music. I would be bereft if I lost the unit. My only regret about the Electrix stuff is that it takes up two rack spaces each and it makes it unsuitable for me to tour with it. I always take an extra 6 space rack with me to my gigs with the Electrix, Repeater, Filter Factory and MoFX all hooked up but it's too much shit to take to a festival so most people in the looping community have never seen me use this setup. It's a bitchen one and I can see why a lot of people have gone the Plogue Bidule route with laptops to get this kind of flexibility, musically. Yeah, I vote THUMBS UP on all that Electrix Gear. I was set up to have a product endorsement if they had ever rereleased and I was bummed BIG TIME when they tanked. LONG LIVE ELECTRIX!!!! From wordpress@fluxator.rueducommerce.fr Mon Jul 6 07:46:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4853 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 07:46:35 UTC Received: from ks2014931.kimsufi.com (ks2014931.kimsufi.com [91.121.123.112]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037A93BE70 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:46:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ks2014931.kimsufi.com (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 09D013D1C8; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 08:37:25 +0200 (CEST) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received A Hallmark E-Card! From: hallmark.com Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090706071203.09D013D1C8@ks2014931.kimsufi.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 08:37:25 +0200 (CEST)
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Sarah --001636c5acb020295c046e086246-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 14:16:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADD4F3BE7C; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:15:45 EDT Subject: Re: Electrix MoFX : Is it worth it? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bf0.541ca915.37836111_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:16:04 +0000 (UTC) --part1_bf0.541ca915.37836111_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dennis.....the only thing i use on the mo-fx is the delay which can act like a looper albeit a short looper.....you can mess with the "loop" with the "p-pong", "sync" buttons and the "speed" knob can be of interest.....the distortion/flange/trem/ sections really don't do much for me, ymmv, the delay section will work as a delay of course and there is a pretty good range to choose from.....if my mo dies on me, i would miss it a little but would in no way try to replace it.....i got mine several years ago when they were blowing them out for $99., it has been worth every penny but i doubt that i would buy another even at that price.....my biggest complaint is the shortness of the loop, seems to be less than 5 seconds.....what is it that you want to do with it?.....unless the price is really low, i think there are way more interesting boxes out there.....m "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Summer concert season is here! Find your favorite artists on tour at TourTracker.com. --part1_bf0.541ca915.37836111_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dennis.....the only thing i use on= the mo-fx is the delay which can act like a looper albeit a short looper.= ....you can mess with the "loop" with the "p-pong", "sync" buttons and the= "speed" knob can be of interest.....the distortion/flange/trem/ sections= really don't do much for me, ymmv, the delay section will work as a delay= of course and there is a pretty good range to choose from.....if my mo di= es on me, i would miss it a little but would in no way try to replace it..= ...i got mine several years ago when they were blowing them out for $99.,= it has been worth every penny but i doubt that i would buy another even= at that price.....my biggest complaint is the shortness of the loop, seem= s to be less than 5 seconds.....what is it that you want to do with it?...= ..unless the price is really low, i think there are way more interesting= boxes out there.....m



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Summer concert season is here!= Find your favorite artists on tour at TourTracker.com. --part1_bf0.541ca915.37836111_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 14:19:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF4C13BE78; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <977656.88830.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <977656.88830.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <7f7ad9ce03926e3a4e73231ecdc48ffa@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Saw BILL FRISELL Tonight (July 5) in Iowa City @ IC Jazz Fest Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:19:26 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Nice review Scott with astute observations. Thanks for sharing. Best, Ted On Jul 5, 2009, at 7:39 PM, scott hansen wrote: > sorry-1st one got sent accidentally... > =A0 > Saw Bill Frisell Tonight (July 5) in Iowa City @ IC Jazz Fest > =A0 > Well, I missed him when he played here back in 2000, b/c i was in the=20= > middle of a move, but got to see him tonight.The funny thing is he=20 > looked older than pictures i remember of him, but then i thought that=20= > my memory is probably pictures from early 90s, a long time ago! > My main thoughts when i saw him was he sounded kind of "jazzy" and he=20= > was very melodic playing w/ drums, bass, & i think a trumpet player;=20= > The funny thing I thought as i watched was thinking of all the on-line=20= > boards i'm on (too many!) is people asking, "oh i want a jazz sound,=20= > which semi-hollow guitar & amp should i get, bla bla bla..." & I=20 > thought well, Bill Frisell sounded pretty jazzy to me & he was playing=20= > a blonde Telecaster & a small Fender amp. He played for about an hour=20= > & 15 min, The 1st 3 songs he played took about 50 min-in that time he=20= > did 3 little loop things, sort of noise-based (some=20 > scratching-extended playing stuff), at times it was clean tele sounds,=20= > another time it sounded like a piano for a second. When he was playing=20= > these, i think the audience was wondering what was up? Not sure if=20 > they got it or not, but his loops do make nice transitions in his=20 > compositions. > The other thing I noticed from watching behind the stage (i was able=20= > to be in shade & i didn't bring a lawn chair so i could sit on steps=20= > of Old Capitol Building) was that he mostly played facing his band,=20 > and for the most part=A0 his guitar was facing to the back, so that I = &=20 > everyone else behind stage=A0could see his guitar (& hands from 40 = some=20 > ft back)-the main audience would mostly see his left side and the back=20= > of his guitar neck. I could see that he was using a Line 6 Delay Pedal=20= > (green one) for his loops. I think he also had a distortion box of=20 > some kind (couldn't see it)-but the main thing i thought was his sound=20= > was pretty clean and sparse (I kept thinking: I PLAY W/ MORE=20 > EFFECTS!). The other thing i noticed was he played a barre chord twice=20= > that I saw! I should say that all the songs he played i recognized the=20= > melody, etc, but since i rarely remember titles of stuff, I couldn't=20= > connect a song to a title. He seemed to be really enjoying himself &=20= > his band, and they had some good interaction-especially during his=20 > little loop things. The last thing was when he was done, he put his=20 > Tele in a soft case and turned off his amp, & started to collect his=20= > pedals-no roadies for him!! > =A0 > sorry for the choppy/disorganized review...just some quick notes i=20 > remember... > s--- > www.myspace.com/scotthansen > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 15:06:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B44F3BE77; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:06:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:06:55 UTC Message-Id: <49455FF4-2153-4B26-ABFD-244A835E80F4@grubmah.com> From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Electrix MoFX : Is it worth it? Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 08:00:15 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <30l-dC.A.k6.PMhUKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:06:56 +0000 (UTC) This is all currently packed away, but I put my MoFX right after my Handsonic when I was using them. If I unpack the Handsonic, I may well unpack the MoFX as well. That said, I primarily used the distortion (not great but interesting on drums) and the delay. The tremolo and flanger section weren't that interesting on drums as I recall. I've also got a FilterQueen and a couple EQ-Killers all purchased at the blow out price. Conceptually, they are all really nice but they seem to have drifted out of my racks probably for a combination of lack of space and the fact that I don't generally "play" effects all that much. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 17:43:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0CF33BE72; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mXE6ddi47O9rkamukG+7o5+BJwuGRkQbIBzkjr8sk98=; b=gRD787XE/SmNigQ54U22XgNpE2CftmNBq8ryd5mxeBy7hif6wF8uJn1B94N13gTxFg hdgi+hR2voNdT97txc5RQM9ZtP2Y8n/KLo3FsNTpRGUJ48sduy6ML+LYTTpFMRSBeUhS PzKaibNidLqfcCmNY6dQtJGUg063U9WfDBmkw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DYMkEd4qS5o94a4Sh1gV2D27xz/yTqrs0uybxmWlM/Rtr/DhnDKC+xvwU29RQ74Snq ojeMFn/YKyOpRc0BfZ8LQRUBAiUf33A7tYFuTCDBnvGkIduic8lh5W1w7SSqedhMrzlh F1UxQzyJALQbYdWCCmDF3COKE/ciVjg3znHAE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49455FF4-2153-4B26-ABFD-244A835E80F4@grubmah.com> References: <49455FF4-2153-4B26-ABFD-244A835E80F4@grubmah.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:43:52 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electrix MoFX : Is it worth it? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4ZdGB.A.6GE.YfjUKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Though I'm happily immersed in the virtual world, if I had a ton of extra money and space one of the things I'd probably recreate was an all Electrix based rack. They were well thought out pieces of kit with UIs that begged to be played with. Why did they die an untimely death? We'll probably never know. They drifted out of my rack too. Probably because I, like Mark, am also a Mark who plays guitar which does occupy both your hands and those things did take up two rack spaces. So they'd be tied down to a studio in my I-won-the-lottery-look-at-all-my-gear fantasy. Oh wait, in my fantasy, can I have a roadie too? Groupies? Mermaids feeding me pealed shrimp? A large NY style pizza? What are my parameters? On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > This is all currently packed away, but I put my MoFX right after my > Handsonic when I was using them. If I unpack the Handsonic, I may well > unpack the MoFX as well. That said, I primarily used the distortion (not > great but interesting on drums) and the delay. The tremolo and flanger > section weren't that interesting on drums as I recall. I've also got a > FilterQueen and a couple EQ-Killers all purchased at the blow out price. > Conceptually, they are all really nice but they seem to have drifted out of > my racks probably for a combination of lack of space and the fact that I > don't generally "play" effects all that much. > > Mark > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 17:57:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 067903BE77; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:57:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [70.29.22.229] X-Originating-Email: [vaneyck@sympatico.ca] Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:57:13 -0400 From: Trevor Van Eyck User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Oberheim Echoplex Footswitch Momentary Switch Replacement Parts? References: <4A507EDF.2020406@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4A507EDF.2020406@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2009 17:57:14.0956 (UTC) FILETIME=[31EC58C0:01C9FE63] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:57:15 +0000 (UTC) Thanks much guys! Your advice and info has been extremely helpful. By the way, other than the Oberheim Echoplex, are there other stompable hardware loopers that have the Multiple Layer Undo Function? Any of that new-ish Boss Stuff come with undo? It looks like the RC-20 does, but the DD-20 does not. And how is that RC-50? Am I overlooking another option? Thanks so much! TREVOR. andy butler wrote: > > > Trevor Van Eyck wrote: >> >> Hi all, I'm new to the list, so forgive me if this has been >> covered ad nauseam... >> >> I just picked up a used Oberheim Echoplex unit (old White-face >> version with maxed memory and Loop IV Installed). I've finally got >> the unit working after resetting all the socketed IC's (it flickered >> and fluttered and powered up only intermittently at first). The >> Footswitch however has got faulty switches that need to be replaced >> (tried cleaning to no avail). >> >> My Questions are as follows: >> >> 1) Has anyone got a source for the switches? > > Depends where you are geographically. > > Your local electronics shop should have something suitable. > > for US > The footswitch part# is: > > 10PA005 at http://www.mouser.com > > or > > 106112 at http://www.jameco.com > > >> >> 2) I'm wondering if anyone has tried to install something more >> heavy duty than those low-profile momentary switches that come stock >> on the unit? I was considering a big metal plunger style switch >> (something more like what you find on just about every other effects >> pedal in existence). I know such a switch in the "momentary" >> configuration must be available somewhere... Anyone else done a >> successful switch overhaul on one of these babies? > > Most serious users use midi control. > Keep in mind that a big clunky switch will not > respond as fast, and this will mess with the timing of your > loops. > > andy butler > > > > >> >> Any advice is much appreciated. >> >> Thanks! >> >> TREVOR. >> >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 18:05:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF7603BE73; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DjDw4cGAgLnC3CkqlOipKDOOqjNq2csYt2vvkD50TL8=; b=tXtbhWlEX8o+L42y9ousTbG7aYZrA+hXjPbNI+oD5hlKgLIl235Hz7CGzIQT5wqFGv XAa8dXFTl+oljt4l2QzlcomzS7iIcNCnoFeeymrsMPr+/2Jv/sulLshy126kg/6MTbSg JrDcVuKqkFFly1PPBF1ZwAge1dS65cQ5Ex3RY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oOa6H3nZEvhqCAPAg3F/ePxdOB9pR8bxb9B39YGA2UmeVLjjdUJe73KDHHxbreTDce +74EYYpURzLkxmQvo7+uDxBtyhkCcarpO6F/VCj/ZreBGRHrxqVMp3Kpz/OqHQNlMh8h /Lp4cVBGO9lCmcR/ckJux7MlymO0oJ4ICFKwY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A507EDF.2020406@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:05:00 -0400 Message-ID: <2871c3a90907061105g4e727a4fr359ce4d80f92b28@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Oberheim Echoplex Footswitch Momentary Switch Replacement Parts? From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:05:01 +0000 (UTC) check out Per's comparison chart http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php Most of the time, loopers only have one layer of undo. The repeater can undo multiple layers all at once if you don't quit rec mode between layering. Sylvain On 7/6/09, Trevor Van Eyck wrote: > > Thanks much guys! Your advice and info has been extremely helpful. > > By the way, other than the Oberheim Echoplex, are there other stompable > hardware loopers that have the Multiple Layer Undo Function? Any of that > new-ish Boss Stuff come with undo? It looks like the RC-20 does, but the > DD-20 does not. And how is that RC-50? Am I overlooking another option? > > Thanks so much! > > TREVOR. > > > andy butler wrote: > > > > > > Trevor Van Eyck wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all, I'm new to the list, so forgive me if this has been covered ad > nauseam... > > > > > > I just picked up a used Oberheim Echoplex unit (old White-face version > with maxed memory and Loop IV Installed). I've finally got the unit working > after resetting all the socketed IC's (it flickered and fluttered and > powered up only intermittently at first). The Footswitch however has got > faulty switches that need to be replaced (tried cleaning to no avail). > > > > > > My Questions are as follows: > > > > > > 1) Has anyone got a source for the switches? > > > > > > > Depends where you are geographically. > > > > Your local electronics shop should have something suitable. > > > > for US > > The footswitch part# is: > > > > 10PA005 at http://www.mouser.com > > > > or > > > > 106112 at http://www.jameco.com > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) I'm wondering if anyone has tried to install something more heavy > duty than those low-profile momentary switches that come stock on the unit? > I was considering a big metal plunger style switch (something more like what > you find on just about every other effects pedal in existence). I know such > a switch in the "momentary" configuration must be available somewhere... > Anyone else done a successful switch overhaul on one of these babies? > > > > > > > Most serious users use midi control. > > Keep in mind that a big clunky switch will not > > respond as fast, and this will mess with the timing of your > > loops. > > > > andy butler > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any advice is much appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > TREVOR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 18:18:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E02EB3BE7C; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=d4HhUXlIXF2EvsdkFBlvHmmY2uxvbjyvjyqSTwN29SQ=; b=HyMXTIRUbnVYfSeYPwcgGV62kaaIVMCrInK4hVDG4BxajeaJM7XIaULYAZgIr5FWDF eCO3SL/urepOd7UgFBkrfYtVMGwcDd9PINoFN6MM/sfqUxi5FV3jdLsuAQ3cGqwd7Iir zaRr9LLdtzM0s4uLAdp7DgKdtWUzPoecyQJJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UqmsUHw3QDYvxz2W5qHpl++UWgyeQPFLFLqZsJyid/ZGWE6l0+9fDORwMv/wJgFYWc gKvkrb02wAxrhmbs4ibW2ULvkpdLGmdC9dtikOuKF+nfuBr/350Aa/9qYS+bwGuFdLIc WH3Q3KvrLGYo8lqh9evUxNPU8cEnP/LbOYlRg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A518330.4050005@cruzio.com> References: <4A518330.4050005@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:18:53 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electrix MoFX : Is it worth it? From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016360e3caad8851b046e0d897a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:18:53 +0000 (UTC) --0016360e3caad8851b046e0d897a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay ...thanks all, it sounds like there is luke-warm to enthusiastic response to the Electrix MoFX ... 2-U is okay for me since I only use a pair of 4U Gator bags these days (anyone want a Lexicon Vortex? I'm cutting back ... ) so there is room. I'm moving in the direction of MIDI-control or foot pedal-control only so that won't be an issue either (aside from the continuing learning curve I am having with MIDI). Now I just need to divy up my pennies ... :) Dennis On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Dear Dennis, > > I have to go on record and say that I love the > Electrix MoFX. > > Just like the Electrix Repeater (which is the only unit on earth that > allows one to be able to > make any sampled sound a chromatic instrument with sample and tempo > stretching) > it does a couple of things better than almost anything out there. > > The effects in the MoFX are fairly mundane, but the use of the drum > machine styled buttons > and the ability to tempo drive the effects using a MIDI interface, sets it > apart from almost anything else I can think of. > > The fact that the large drum machine styled 'play' button can either have a > positive or a negative function (in other words it can turn the effect on > when you use it momentarily or turn the effect off depending on how you set > it) > is just wonderful. > > Ways, I use it are putting small amounts of distortion on it, narrowing > the bandwidth, and then suddenly bringing in the > full unadulterated sound at precise rhythmic > moments...............fantastic for real time production ideas in things > like > hip hop and drum and bass. > > ........setting up square wave tremelos at very high and rhythmically > specific rates (32nd notes, etc.) so that you can > make things 'trill' at appropriate rhythmical places...............then > being able to change the rates with which the square wave tremelos > work. > > All of these things are fantastic and really useful for resampling and > relooping. > > One of my favorite set ups now, uses one DL4 before my effects pedals to > loop a pure instrument sound > then pass it through whatever effects (including the MoFX and the Filter > Factory which works similarly) > then putting a second DL4 on the back side of that to be able to loop the > 'effected sounds' > then running all of it into my little VOX and ROLAND battery powered > guitar and bass amps, > micing it all and then running it through the Looperlative LP-1 as a final > way of slicing, dicing and arrangeing > the piece of music. > > I would be bereft if I lost the unit. > > My only regret about the Electrix stuff is that it takes up two rack spaces > each and > it makes it unsuitable for me to tour with it. > > I always take an extra 6 space rack with me to my gigs with the Electrix, > Repeater, Filter Factory and MoFX > all hooked up but it's too much shit to take to a festival > so most people in the looping community have never seen me use this setup. > > It's a bitchen one and I can see why a lot of people have gone the Plogue > Bidule route with laptops to get this kind > of flexibility, musically. > > Yeah, I vote THUMBS UP on all that Electrix Gear. > I was set up to have a product endorsement if they had ever rereleased and > I was bummed BIG TIME when they tanked. > > LONG LIVE ELECTRIX!!!! > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --0016360e3caad8851b046e0d897a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay ...thanks all, it sounds like there is luke-warm to enthusiastic respo= nse to the Electrix MoFX ... 2-U is okay for me since I only use a pair of = 4U Gator bags these days (anyone want a Lexicon Vortex? I'm cutting bac= k ... ) so there is room. I'm moving in the direction of MIDI-control o= r foot pedal-control only so that won't be an issue either (aside from = the continuing learning curve I am having with MIDI).

Now I just need to divy up my pennies ... :)

Dennis


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.co= m> wrote:
Dear Dennis,

I have to go on record and say that I love the
Electrix MoFX.

Just like the Electrix Repeater (which is the only unit on earth that allow= s one to be able to
make any sampled sound a chromatic instrument with sample and tempo stretch= ing)
it does a couple of things better than almost anything out there.

The effects in the MoFX =A0are fairly mundane, but the use of the drum mach= ine styled buttons
and the ability to tempo drive the effects using a MIDI interface, =A0sets = it apart from almost anything else I can think of.

The fact that the large drum machine styled 'play' button can eithe= r have a positive or a negative function (in other words it can turn the ef= fect on when you use it momentarily or turn the effect off depending on how= you set it)
is just wonderful.

Ways, =A0I use it are putting small amounts of distortion on it, narrowing = the bandwidth, and then suddenly bringing in the
full unadulterated sound at precise rhythmic moments...............fantasti= c for real time production ideas in things like
hip hop and drum and bass.

........setting up square wave tremelos at very high and rhythmically speci= fic rates (32nd notes, etc.) =A0so that you can
make things 'trill' at appropriate rhythmical places...............= then being able to change the rates with which the square wave tremelos
work.

All of these things are fantastic and really useful for resampling and relo= oping.

One of my favorite set ups now, =A0uses one DL4 before my effects pedals to= loop a pure instrument sound
then pass it through whatever effects (including the MoFX and the Filter Fa= ctory which works similarly)
then putting a second DL4 on the back side of that to be able to loop the &= #39;effected sounds'
then running all of it into my little VOX =A0and ROLAND battery powered gui= tar and bass amps,
micing it all and then running it through the Looperlative LP-1 =A0as a fin= al way of slicing, dicing and arrangeing
the piece of music.

I would be bereft if I lost the unit.

My only regret about the Electrix stuff is that it takes up two rack spaces= each and
it makes it unsuitable for me to tour with it.

I always take an extra 6 space rack with me to my gigs with the Electrix, R= epeater, Filter Factory and MoFX
all hooked up but it's too much shit to take to a festival
so most people in the looping community have never seen me use this setup.<= br>
It's a bitchen one and I can see why a lot of people have gone the Plog= ue Bidule route with laptops to get this kind
of flexibility, =A0musically.

Yeah, =A0I vote THUMBS UP on all that Electrix Gear.
I was set up to have a product endorsement if they had ever rereleased and = I was bummed BIG TIME when they tanked.

LONG LIVE ELECTRIX!!!!




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--0016360e3caad8851b046e0d897a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 18:28:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D745C3BE79; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:28:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246904931; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=9q4P2dNCXxsZjCmtRP1kXV3ZWEw=; b=fK1bmaWCuhch/u0Molj7D8ZLs+Z86RVSww/MYu3BkHdzhgD7cmvDr0W7GnFrYEh+ ytP9NQrSKJ/GR+ZNyHdn/obVh1Yr0GdWkC8PgcBWvROLgPrtoL6fYfRH+dzqdQYi; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=dLQLRd3Bf5gA:10 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=oTtuw1C_AAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=hiGGu2Y6AAAA:8 a=yFuDAPCIAAAA:8 a=7BAaI1Rg4KiVT_CjNDkA:9 a=suLB3y-ou2pXKUSWP4oA:7 a=wCaY7P-T5NcF9WxxzpieBM3unMwA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=pQ2a0EFxmsAA:10 a=tzVtSA-AEnxNhL7y:21 a=ajKuyAsJqzjLGOGS:21 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=bgNSuSemwZ8BlqiIyIgA:9 a=cNiny424aeXburuh7IEA:7 a=hZUJPkTOHk7zxVpSUz0hIrGZFe0A:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001201c9fe67$9bacf5e0$e4872245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <4A518330.4050005@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: Electrix MoFX : Is it worth it? Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:28:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C9FE46.145FAC70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:28:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C9FE46.145FAC70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i am willing to give the Vortex a good home! Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dennis Moser=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 2:18 PM Subject: Re: Electrix MoFX : Is it worth it? Okay ...thanks all, it sounds like there is luke-warm to enthusiastic = response to the Electrix MoFX ... 2-U is okay for me since I only use a = pair of 4U Gator bags these days (anyone want a Lexicon Vortex? I'm = cutting back ... ) so there is room. I'm moving in the direction of = MIDI-control or foot pedal-control only so that won't be an issue either = (aside from the continuing learning curve I am having with MIDI). Now I just need to divy up my pennies ... :) Dennis On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Rick Walker = wrote: Dear Dennis, I have to go on record and say that I love the Electrix MoFX. Just like the Electrix Repeater (which is the only unit on earth = that allows one to be able to make any sampled sound a chromatic instrument with sample and tempo = stretching) it does a couple of things better than almost anything out there. The effects in the MoFX are fairly mundane, but the use of the drum = machine styled buttons and the ability to tempo drive the effects using a MIDI interface, = sets it apart from almost anything else I can think of. The fact that the large drum machine styled 'play' button can either = have a positive or a negative function (in other words it can turn the = effect on when you use it momentarily or turn the effect off depending = on how you set it) is just wonderful. Ways, I use it are putting small amounts of distortion on it, = narrowing the bandwidth, and then suddenly bringing in the full unadulterated sound at precise rhythmic = moments...............fantastic for real time production ideas in things = like hip hop and drum and bass. ........setting up square wave tremelos at very high and = rhythmically specific rates (32nd notes, etc.) so that you can make things 'trill' at appropriate rhythmical = places...............then being able to change the rates with which the = square wave tremelos work. All of these things are fantastic and really useful for resampling = and relooping. One of my favorite set ups now, uses one DL4 before my effects = pedals to loop a pure instrument sound then pass it through whatever effects (including the MoFX and the = Filter Factory which works similarly) then putting a second DL4 on the back side of that to be able to = loop the 'effected sounds' then running all of it into my little VOX and ROLAND battery = powered guitar and bass amps, micing it all and then running it through the Looperlative LP-1 as = a final way of slicing, dicing and arrangeing the piece of music. I would be bereft if I lost the unit. My only regret about the Electrix stuff is that it takes up two rack = spaces each and it makes it unsuitable for me to tour with it. I always take an extra 6 space rack with me to my gigs with the = Electrix, Repeater, Filter Factory and MoFX all hooked up but it's too much shit to take to a festival so most people in the looping community have never seen me use this = setup. It's a bitchen one and I can see why a lot of people have gone the = Plogue Bidule route with laptops to get this kind of flexibility, musically. Yeah, I vote THUMBS UP on all that Electrix Gear. I was set up to have a product endorsement if they had ever = rereleased and I was bummed BIG TIME when they tanked. LONG LIVE ELECTRIX!!!! --=20 http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C9FE46.145FAC70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i am willing to give the Vortex a good=20 home!
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dennis=20 Moser
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 = 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: Electrix MoFX : Is = it worth=20 it?

Okay ...thanks all, it sounds like there is luke-warm = to=20 enthusiastic response to the Electrix MoFX ... 2-U is okay for me = since I only=20 use a pair of 4U Gator bags these days (anyone want a Lexicon Vortex? = I'm=20 cutting back ... ) so there is room. I'm moving in the direction of=20 MIDI-control or foot pedal-control only so that won't be an issue = either=20 (aside from the continuing learning curve I am having with = MIDI).

Now I=20 just need to divy up my pennies ... :)

Dennis


On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Rick Walker = <looppool@cruzio.com> = wrote:
Dear=20 Dennis,

I have to go on record and say that I love = the
Electrix=20 MoFX.

Just like the Electrix Repeater (which is the only unit = on=20 earth that allows one to be able to
make any sampled sound a = chromatic=20 instrument with sample and tempo stretching)
it does a couple of = things=20 better than almost anything out there.

The effects in the = MoFX=20  are fairly mundane, but the use of the drum machine styled=20 buttons
and the ability to tempo drive the effects using a MIDI=20 interface,  sets it apart from almost anything else I can think = of.

The fact that the large drum machine styled 'play' button = can=20 either have a positive or a negative function (in other words it can = turn=20 the effect on when you use it momentarily or turn the effect off = depending=20 on how you set it)
is just wonderful.

Ways,  I use it = are=20 putting small amounts of distortion on it, narrowing the bandwidth, = and then=20 suddenly bringing in the
full unadulterated sound at precise = rhythmic=20 moments...............fantastic for real time production ideas in = things=20 like
hip hop and drum and bass.

........setting up square = wave=20 tremelos at very high and rhythmically specific rates (32nd notes, = etc.)=20  so that you can
make things 'trill' at appropriate = rhythmical=20 places...............then being able to change the rates with which = the=20 square wave tremelos
work.

All of these things are = fantastic and=20 really useful for resampling and relooping.

One of my = favorite set=20 ups now,  uses one DL4 before my effects pedals to loop a pure=20 instrument sound
then pass it through whatever effects (including = the=20 MoFX and the Filter Factory which works similarly)
then putting a = second=20 DL4 on the back side of that to be able to loop the 'effected=20 sounds'
then running all of it into my little VOX  and = ROLAND=20 battery powered guitar and bass amps,
micing it all and then = running it=20 through the Looperlative LP-1  as a final way of slicing, = dicing and=20 arrangeing
the piece of music.

I would be bereft if I lost = the=20 unit.

My only regret about the Electrix stuff is that it = takes up two=20 rack spaces each and
it makes it unsuitable for me to tour with=20 it.

I always take an extra 6 space rack with me to my gigs = with the=20 Electrix, Repeater, Filter Factory and MoFX
all hooked up but = it's too=20 much shit to take to a festival
so most people in the looping = community=20 have never seen me use this setup.

It's a bitchen one and I = can see=20 why a lot of people have gone the Plogue Bidule route with laptops = to get=20 this kind
of flexibility,  musically.

Yeah,  I = vote=20 THUMBS UP on all that Electrix Gear.
I was set up to have a = product=20 endorsement if they had ever rereleased and I was bummed BIG TIME = when they=20 tanked.

LONG LIVE = ELECTRIX!!!!



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------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C9FE46.145FAC70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 18:49:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 562393BE79; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FTeR0yHznTiRVvglOvKSNr1kbVQJXKSNK40afJMv2Hk=; b=vY9SsGYpAXUJisy0SnwwPL8ZJIkwfKTewLU0MufCLokhq/pvKvHTiGMa8MF5PPZIFX iQNcDJR3uvTwnIn6ZKBGFZe2ZKgqRe4mJQdTzPfgehldRJi3T/jiC9xN0ADsdZhJ1CIT aikk8Jc2DusfQJD6vx/FrzuCPA8Q1C9B5SV1I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pm3dKPlv65+wEUhTpHSiiKl9ps3P//LZo+60VIJT5CTNwllq5YgP+F5fB71DQZXADr AlmS+3pPcUOVm8fmLGMfjZbBjZ2+TZbV5aJq2opfIdpEdYW4YAOj/2z/TrvxISUjmdt2 r99hyPNl1e+lT1SemHOV3ZLj4n/KfMorrDOLM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001201c9fe67$9bacf5e0$e4872245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <4A518330.4050005@cruzio.com> <001201c9fe67$9bacf5e0$e4872245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:49:11 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electrix MoFX : Is it worth it? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Oh, this is what replaced the moFX: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=3DSTRK:MEUSX:IT&it= em=3D190317399841 Tiny, easy to midi or expression pedal control and a lot more flexible. All time based perimeters sync to MIDI clock. One of the casualties of the great computer revolution though so now it's up on the ebay chopping block. It's probably going to fund the new FXpansion Synthsquad instrument. Mark On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > i am willing to give the Vortex a good home! > > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dennis Moser > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 2:18 PM > Subject: Re: Electrix MoFX : Is it worth it? > Okay ...thanks all, it sounds like there is luke-warm to enthusiastic > response to the Electrix MoFX ... 2-U is okay for me since I only use a p= air > of 4U Gator bags these days (anyone want a Lexicon Vortex? I'm cutting ba= ck > ... ) so there is room. I'm moving in the direction of MIDI-control or fo= ot > pedal-control only so that won't be an issue either (aside from the > continuing learning curve I am having with MIDI). > > Now I just need to divy up my pennies ... :) > > Dennis > > > On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >> >> Dear Dennis, >> >> I have to go on record and say that I love the >> Electrix MoFX. >> >> Just like the Electrix Repeater (which is the only unit on earth that >> allows one to be able to >> make any sampled sound a chromatic instrument with sample and tempo >> stretching) >> it does a couple of things better than almost anything out there. >> >> The effects in the MoFX =A0are fairly mundane, but the use of the drum >> machine styled buttons >> and the ability to tempo drive the effects using a MIDI interface, =A0se= ts >> it apart from almost anything else I can think of. >> >> The fact that the large drum machine styled 'play' button can either hav= e >> a positive or a negative function (in other words it can turn the effect= on >> when you use it momentarily or turn the effect off depending on how you = set >> it) >> is just wonderful. >> >> Ways, =A0I use it are putting small amounts of distortion on it, narrowi= ng >> the bandwidth, and then suddenly bringing in the >> full unadulterated sound at precise rhythmic >> moments...............fantastic for real time production ideas in things >> like >> hip hop and drum and bass. >> >> ........setting up square wave tremelos at very high and rhythmically >> specific rates (32nd notes, etc.) =A0so that you can >> make things 'trill' at appropriate rhythmical places...............then >> being able to change the rates with which the square wave tremelos >> work. >> >> All of these things are fantastic and really useful for resampling and >> relooping. >> >> One of my favorite set ups now, =A0uses one DL4 before my effects pedals= to >> loop a pure instrument sound >> then pass it through whatever effects (including the MoFX and the Filter >> Factory which works similarly) >> then putting a second DL4 on the back side of that to be able to loop th= e >> 'effected sounds' >> then running all of it into my little VOX =A0and ROLAND battery powered >> guitar and bass amps, >> micing it all and then running it through the Looperlative LP-1 =A0as a >> final way of slicing, dicing and arrangeing >> the piece of music. >> >> I would be bereft if I lost the unit. >> >> My only regret about the Electrix stuff is that it takes up two rack >> spaces each and >> it makes it unsuitable for me to tour with it. >> >> I always take an extra 6 space rack with me to my gigs with the Electrix= , >> Repeater, Filter Factory and MoFX >> all hooked up but it's too much shit to take to a festival >> so most people in the looping community have never seen me use this setu= p. >> >> It's a bitchen one and I can see why a lot of people have gone the Plogu= e >> Bidule route with laptops to get this kind >> of flexibility, =A0musically. >> >> Yeah, =A0I vote THUMBS UP on all that Electrix Gear. >> I was set up to have a product endorsement if they had ever rereleased a= nd >> I was bummed BIG TIME when they tanked. >> >> LONG LIVE ELECTRIX!!!! >> > > > > -- > http://myspace.com/usrsbin > http://audiozoloft.com > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 19:02:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70F2F3BE82; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A35307A5A6D4BDAB1BAEDD7F47235AC@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <4A518330.4050005@cruzio.com> <001201c9fe67$9bacf5e0$e4872245@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Going full-time into looping in August Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:02:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0282_01C9FE31.96CC3DF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:02:19 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0282_01C9FE31.96CC3DF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, my day job will be coming to an end at the end of July. I see = this as a sign that it is time for me to move on. So, I'm dedicating = myself 100% to Looperlative starting in August. It is my goal to = provide better looping gear to the community and help bring more people = into the world of looping. Expect new offerings from Looperlative this = year because you will have my undivided attention very shortly. Loop on! Bob Amstadt Looperlative Audio Products ------=_NextPart_000_0282_01C9FE31.96CC3DF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, my day job will be coming to an = end at the=20 end of July.  I see this as a sign that it is time for me to move = on. =20 So, I'm dedicating myself 100% to Looperlative starting in August.  = It is my goal to provide better looping gear to the community and = help=20 bring more people into the world of looping.  Expect new offerings = from=20 Looperlative this year because you will have my undivided attention very = shortly.
 
Loop on!
 
Bob Amstadt
Looperlative Audio=20 Products
------=_NextPart_000_0282_01C9FE31.96CC3DF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 19:07:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9F5E3BE82; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:07:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wGyZyb0v/k4ZXyWSI4HsU66h4ASlwhUxyK+Un5Z3+w0=; b=UuKFXY8whpVjZE+6k3engW84P7AXEPvg53mjUUIG9MWNstsX/5nB1Rb3Ivwp1bkdiK +Ei9BTRvymCvNDNYZhlD03aZWJzT9UYh7Cm2L1sqngH1e2ItN79MaK/HNkAkKjr1MftF 04d+Xt09ANP8GK4lkqJYU3DoidZgxjitsPHMw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=XwCWt+GxpJUYZoLn6f1xTZET8GKepNS6c67fILoSLkZnk6mbuOJv0jHeUEbBRFTntY mJ68VZeAXhca3P7/1fK1m8aQ6gu2+90wcws9tQwVVz5WS4DFteNju70mwqTaGWeYFH1c HCn+jhQ6lKwdG3JRTbDM3K80nMgGrcfSyrJ2E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:01:11 -0400 Message-ID: <1f178be30907061201u4f435b7fx13af7e555d6e7134@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: Resources on The Art of Reverb From: Rodney To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:07:34 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'm Rodney ... this is my first time posting to this list ... I'm kind of new to the world of music creation. I have a Lexicon PCM 81 effects processor which at some point will use for it's various effects, but for now want to explore it's reverb abilities at a deep level. I was wondering if any one can point to web sites or other resources regarding reverb (theory and practical) and how various parameters can be altered to create different spacial effects (long tunnels and giant caves, for example). I'm wanting to gain a deeper understanding so I can create and fine tune my own spaces. Thanks, Rodney From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 19:11:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15B923BE81; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:11:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QRQ8neipgjGK7Q4OGuo1ow9fATeTQTxeMFmv5VyRaZ0=; b=BECwTA+U4s0KsLzGdbJ/XhxPvx6e/9615usl9evKF1P5EqoAhck8yXxRHE9vDOB6ig F6JzPeUUohz7lkdqCfULGJ7Z/hq61e9CW9vDszCIPXJkuykX4BYRUZ06twgESTZbCXyA O12b08appbBijbRzu2W84wrkLiFBFujgcwOGU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LU7fA7rx4RETgGOGvw04BjVcYZ/S6nSwAxWZVHf5VWKyO6/HO8pRdtrhPpZ8Xbw/lx YMQfFnytKw4KdP9tDajKyuAU1U6F/A42jrM3847Abc8ZMWRXP3rXXtqYVilTX/+8D097 cczjMIPEVyO5ICTe1si7KTnZMY4fRSUXO+Gck= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A35307A5A6D4BDAB1BAEDD7F47235AC@bobdell> References: <4A518330.4050005@cruzio.com> <001201c9fe67$9bacf5e0$e4872245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A35307A5A6D4BDAB1BAEDD7F47235AC@bobdell> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:11:41 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Going full-time into looping in August From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:11:42 +0000 (UTC) move on bob. we'll follow next ... daily jobs coming to an end around the globe!. endless free time for musicing! 2009/7/6, Bob Amstadt : > Well, my day job will be coming to an end at the end of July. I see this as > a sign that it is time for me to move on. So, I'm dedicating myself 100% to > Looperlative starting in August. It is my goal to provide better looping > gear to the community and help bring more people into the world of looping. > Expect new offerings from Looperlative this year because you will have my > undivided attention very shortly. > > Loop on! > > Bob Amstadt > Looperlative Audio Products -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 19:41:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA4723BE78; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:41:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090706141925.mj31mffu1wog804g@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:19:25 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Bob Amstadt Subject: Re: Going full-time into looping in August References: <4A518330.4050005@cruzio.com> <001201c9fe67$9bacf5e0$e4872245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A35307A5A6D4BDAB1BAEDD7F47235AC@bobdell> In-Reply-To: <4A35307A5A6D4BDAB1BAEDD7F47235AC@bobdell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:41:03 +0000 (UTC) Congrats Bob!!!! Wishing you much luck on this exciting change! :) -cpr Quoting Bob Amstadt : > Well, my day job will be coming to an end at the end of July. I see > this as a sign that it is time for me to move on. So, I'm > dedicating myself 100% to Looperlative starting in August. It is my > goal to provide better looping gear to the community and help bring > more people into the world of looping. Expect new offerings from > Looperlative this year because you will have my undivided attention > very shortly. > > Loop on! > > Bob Amstadt > Looperlative Audio Products From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 19:42:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A012A3BE81; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=42/38Rt8OBKjDMz9rgnt7sMDPOn4RPkV7kigz4tV3lQ=; b=eMR5dDG2WY/UUYbCkegVKemRZROmJx3OO4gj9LQMoqKV5Wh1gisIsHu3W37BPxyNCn 3Dm+yTTeyasOLWlY8bf7c/OAcH9MU7jt6lYNLJ1/5RYrw+brD6a71d+7PwifLupA5X8E EOoMignQ22qGDPKzU3T7AUn2k1O7NvsSYsDqA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=F27fC3Rdl0XnlpQUsyAnzCf4aksfZ5rDLvH7W36pFeiKl+1hl4h2eNQ3SouZxJH6t6 jFikckIc6xKuKY6amdiCZkLBPnNq+sClOeEB/YtXFlz1GSzFYBnO/ytS8tO5+4csb77p EyusG4JTzHGfkIsOiaN1mR9GUVRAeST6589FA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20090706141925.mj31mffu1wog804g@webmail.musetrap.com> References: <4A518330.4050005@cruzio.com> <001201c9fe67$9bacf5e0$e4872245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A35307A5A6D4BDAB1BAEDD7F47235AC@bobdell> <20090706141925.mj31mffu1wog804g@webmail.musetrap.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:42:34 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ea9059cc4bd745a2 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907061242i77bdb7bag8f3b7dd4205b0be9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Going full-time into looping in August To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c391a500d6f046e0eb663 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:42:55 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c391a500d6f046e0eb663 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey.. shit.. LETS ALL QUIT ! ! ! Im up for it... > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c391a500d6f046e0eb663 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey.. shit.. LETS ALL QUIT ! ! ! Im up for it...=A0




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--0015174c391a500d6f046e0eb663-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 20:05:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAC993BE75; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:05:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <650178D455824B6FB5BE9A9C96843AC4@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <4A518330.4050005@cruzio.com> <001201c9fe67$9bacf5e0$e4872245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A35307A5A6D4BDAB1BAEDD7F47235AC@bobdell> <20090706141925.mj31mffu1wog804g@webmail.musetrap.com> <9ab0c76f0907061242i77bdb7bag8f3b7dd4205b0be9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Going full-time into looping in August Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:05:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02F1_01C9FE3A.702A52F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:05:38 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02F1_01C9FE3A.702A52F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I didn't say that I quit, but hey, sometimes the universe just = needs to give you a nudge. ;-) Bob ----- Original Message -----=20 Hey.. shit.. LETS ALL QUIT ! ! ! Im up for it... =20 ------=_NextPart_000_02F1_01C9FE3A.702A52F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, I didn't say that I quit, but = hey, sometimes=20 the universe just needs to give you a nudge. ;-)
 
Bob
 
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 Hey..=20 shit.. LETS ALL QUIT ! ! ! Im up for it... 
 
= ------=_NextPart_000_02F1_01C9FE3A.702A52F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 20:13:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C39323BE84; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 532 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:13:16 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=41YR4h1UBZg+cS3ORygfj5DYpL8pWUQDDZXR/FtOHYc=; b=XP9knVnQDZWFEBVExNO+CvhBlFPCDj4QUW8xUXOsD1mtZzR7pWg3awIsqjPSMdsJRF 7KZtjkT9FxWpGCCwt9Eci8D30ZaM/eUO1asMPq9be512Xkrbp208tq9gXxAeTilyOPRU H4ZzIhqVlShdTsTmCMNgeVHr77Hr1G/ekj0aI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qEy/zsNP9ruCVlKX3h6wv3XMTE0EMjzo2NrsskfvkK73shqVSFpIze6x5glzrOnrBk y70X+Vz2xbPMtMveQnISEuqeewKbDqX+v4XiIZu4KOqmpgbGfnpSkWVzaYrJuMFrHCgJ krdpk6xoHKP8kr2k/7UXmus89VZjyrvwiKf20= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <650178D455824B6FB5BE9A9C96843AC4@bobdell> References: <4A518330.4050005@cruzio.com> <001201c9fe67$9bacf5e0$e4872245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A35307A5A6D4BDAB1BAEDD7F47235AC@bobdell> <20090706141925.mj31mffu1wog804g@webmail.musetrap.com> <9ab0c76f0907061242i77bdb7bag8f3b7dd4205b0be9@mail.gmail.com> <650178D455824B6FB5BE9A9C96843AC4@bobdell> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:13:16 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30907061313w6470a4d8w26f4ae53cce0382b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Going full-time into looping in August From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Feels more like a cattle prod for most I'd guess? 8-( -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com On 7/6/09, Bob Amstadt wrote: > Well, I didn't say that I quit, but hey, sometimes the universe just needs > to give you a nudge. ;-) Bob >> Hey.. shit.. LETS ALL QUIT ! ! ! Im up for it... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 20:17:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCDCC3BE75; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:17:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qfn1tq8BMmT7YbHM6juH7gjENuSqkUg329FcvTZ+IUg=; b=jf0Vtz/HWcUH++3TFq5uZ1mkpGvxW7U9sRqTtSKl+4/mjsR3FHL6sbueROcqTJRvS/ PYQ7Jv2C4HZC0avMTqTjy0b2VzC8mrfgLQ80/zGS3NPqytSQ8PW2nBQH+rGoIqdayhbW Jcj9N1pyTQRKFnu57VmjveIHY0xn4ueMZYEXM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aEP861N7lqiLKzA8v7aVSuiXfTlIDIGnI1RwqbOTMOjlc1sfrcs+VKsQPJ/+UCq03z 45b+ywxZ3NP+qtj/9kzr5ja2CrFW+IY4LOJLly0AEFVNODP/hyAntF8DwXMRneEUOlWr BRSIVu7Hx3uWKflN7VH3YaXHLwZnW+nYmvdbc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1f178be30907061201u4f435b7fx13af7e555d6e7134@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f178be30907061201u4f435b7fx13af7e555d6e7134@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:17:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Resources on The Art of Reverb From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:17:05 +0000 (UTC) Any type of comb filtering or phase effects can do wonderful things to reverbs. I've even put a trance gate or two after one in my day. On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Rodney wrote: > Hi, I'm Rodney ... this is my first time posting to this list ... > > I'm kind of new to the world of music creation. > > I have a Lexicon PCM 81 effects processor which at some > point will use for it's various effects, but for now want to explore > it's reverb abilities at a deep level. > > I was wondering if any one can point to web sites or other > resources regarding reverb (theory and practical) and how > various parameters can be altered to create different spacial > effects (long tunnels and giant caves, for example). =A0I'm wanting > to gain a deeper understanding so I can create and fine tune > my own spaces. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Thanks, > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rodney > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 20:23:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 453E13BE80; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246911820; bh=+TAJRAE6WfkSUjZ+nhVT18LTeMprnM7UTZ9FZ0G2d/s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FWx4VKTP3luoetC2DWGLEea/gZ2L4p6yCzJN8NYrqsz5t6r1jLZfuI8+i86BxSR0uek31QZvLZnIsoQ/y2TgP8j5CcyX4Pg1/7QSxw6m4fic6wCRnOdKqiHlAzSRIYMoU1N+lrbmjAdv57GaczE55QTLVgznQRcTH+gvwMSpDE8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SLFOG5qib7Urn96o09bUJhHPKSh4/jcQAxo5JBKKgBRCH16oglCOq4KyVtoA3AhkK4ccY9kgwfl1MsIM42HSLVOy25Inbw5l2VpnF1k7Bzte0xz+HhV1HQb4wUh8kghke18lLDcFUC052s1Bw368esYPWKxSA+HsaWM/gDgxnkM=; Message-ID: <969328.99816.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:23:40 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Electrix MoFX : Is it worth it? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:23:42 +0000 (UTC) but i think is the inmediate access manual analog style layout that devices= like this cannot compare to the Electrix line unfortunately yes too bulky to tour with and as much as i loved mine i ende= d up selling it! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Mark Sottilaro schrieb am Mo, 6.7.2009: > Von: Mark Sottilaro > Betreff: Re: Electrix MoFX : Is it worth it? > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Montag, 6. Juli 2009, 11:49 > Oh, this is what replaced the moFX: >=20 > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=3DSTRK:MEUSX:IT&= item=3D190317399841 >=20 > Tiny, easy to midi or expression pedal control and a lot > more > flexible.=A0 All time based perimeters sync to MIDI > clock. One of the > casualties of the great computer revolution though so now > it's up on > the ebay chopping block.=A0 It's probably going to fund > the new > FXpansion Synthsquad instrument. >=20 > Mark >=20 > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Jeff Duke > wrote: > > i am willing to give the Vortex a good home! > > > > Jeff > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dennis Moser > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 2:18 PM > > Subject: Re: Electrix MoFX : Is it worth it? > > Okay ...thanks all, it sounds like there is luke-warm > to enthusiastic > > response to the Electrix MoFX ... 2-U is okay for me > since I only use a pair > > of 4U Gator bags these days (anyone want a Lexicon > Vortex? I'm cutting back > > ... ) so there is room. I'm moving in the direction of > MIDI-control or foot > > pedal-control only so that won't be an issue either > (aside from the > > continuing learning curve I am having with MIDI). > > > > Now I just need to divy up my pennies ... :) > > > > Dennis > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Rick Walker > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Dennis, > >> > >> I have to go on record and say that I love the > >> Electrix MoFX. > >> > >> Just like the Electrix Repeater (which is the only > unit on earth that > >> allows one to be able to > >> make any sampled sound a chromatic instrument with > sample and tempo > >> stretching) > >> it does a couple of things better than almost > anything out there. > >> > >> The effects in the MoFX =A0are fairly mundane, but > the use of the drum > >> machine styled buttons > >> and the ability to tempo drive the effects using a > MIDI interface, =A0sets > >> it apart from almost anything else I can think > of. > >> > >> The fact that the large drum machine styled 'play' > button can either have > >> a positive or a negative function (in other words > it can turn the effect on > >> when you use it momentarily or turn the effect off > depending on how you set > >> it) > >> is just wonderful. > >> > >> Ways, =A0I use it are putting small amounts of > distortion on it, narrowing > >> the bandwidth, and then suddenly bringing in the > >> full unadulterated sound at precise rhythmic > >> moments...............fantastic for real time > production ideas in things > >> like > >> hip hop and drum and bass. > >> > >> ........setting up square wave tremelos at very > high and rhythmically > >> specific rates (32nd notes, etc.) =A0so that you > can > >> make things 'trill' at appropriate rhythmical > places...............then > >> being able to change the rates with which the > square wave tremelos > >> work. > >> > >> All of these things are fantastic and really > useful for resampling and > >> relooping. > >> > >> One of my favorite set ups now, =A0uses one DL4 > before my effects pedals to > >> loop a pure instrument sound > >> then pass it through whatever effects (including > the MoFX and the Filter > >> Factory which works similarly) > >> then putting a second DL4 on the back side of that > to be able to loop the > >> 'effected sounds' > >> then running all of it into my little VOX =A0and > ROLAND battery powered > >> guitar and bass amps, > >> micing it all and then running it through the > Looperlative LP-1 =A0as a > >> final way of slicing, dicing and arrangeing > >> the piece of music. > >> > >> I would be bereft if I lost the unit. > >> > >> My only regret about the Electrix stuff is that it > takes up two rack > >> spaces each and > >> it makes it unsuitable for me to tour with it. > >> > >> I always take an extra 6 space rack with me to my > gigs with the Electrix, > >> Repeater, Filter Factory and MoFX > >> all hooked up but it's too much shit to take to a > festival > >> so most people in the looping community have never > seen me use this setup. > >> > >> It's a bitchen one and I can see why a lot of > people have gone the Plogue > >> Bidule route with laptops to get this kind > >> of flexibility, =A0musically. > >> > >> Yeah, =A0I vote THUMBS UP on all that Electrix > Gear. > >> I was set up to have a product endorsement if they > had ever rereleased and > >> I was bummed BIG TIME when they tanked. > >> > >> LONG LIVE ELECTRIX!!!! > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > http://myspace.com/usrsbin > > http://audiozoloft.com > > http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ > > >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 20:23:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCEEA3BE84; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1533 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:23:47 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uen1gjtNZ2K+nfh22FlGzKeGIpETIKQgKnRhBSSAFJo=; b=pVsqMG57JpVLzAbWd9Serm9w2lvnAmccLs23w4LmsbgVcHzUHbKLxEJA6yV2jV/MOZ XZZehY6LNGSkhIWGySmUY16htTmIMwCr9C2/Nv6J7ZjBs9RQbxjonESqXk0tR+d8M1ee iZyay7na9KS7UMHb4oZNKcZ3UhrqFPntieNVM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KM6wBAQi4BhMKG2fHW3eGWcLDJO9/XodsI830zVawUIpL8gK4KzsE+CM+5OIJ1nZd3 wqkikJrrpl3LVQlYY9ORrilG+oHV6Rqf5V+zRP/qB6nBASXUXyNNMdL2mQB9sxj9OzRV LQ/GndpQGebDs1+48ugqPKzsPXE8WFCJD1KjM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A518330.4050005@cruzio.com> <001201c9fe67$9bacf5e0$e4872245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A35307A5A6D4BDAB1BAEDD7F47235AC@bobdell> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:58:14 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30907061258w687004a9he167e7072be35d88@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Going full-time into looping in August From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0dEGpC.A.UtB.T1lUKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:23:47 +0000 (UTC) > 2009/7/6, Bob Amstadt : > > Well, my day job will be coming to an end at the end of July. I see this as > > a sign that it is time for me to move on. So, I'm dedicating myself 100% to > > Looperlative starting in August. It is my goal to provide better looping > > gear to the community and help bring more people into the world of looping. > > Expect new offerings from Looperlative this year because you will have my > > undivided attention very shortly. > > > > Loop on! > > > > Bob Amstadt > > Looperlative Audio Products Wow . . . I admire your attitude considering we're talking about your LIVELIHOOD. I wish you the very best and hope there may be a time I can jump to your awesome product myself! -m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 20:29:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 912C33BE77; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0171F500B9374A89AAA97675161C2B83@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <4A518330.4050005@cruzio.com> <001201c9fe67$9bacf5e0$e4872245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A35307A5A6D4BDAB1BAEDD7F47235AC@bobdell> <20090706141925.mj31mffu1wog804g@webmail.musetrap.com> <9ab0c76f0907061242i77bdb7bag8f3b7dd4205b0be9@mail.gmail.com> <650178D455824B6FB5BE9A9C96843AC4@bobdell> <3fa302e30907061313w6470a4d8w26f4ae53cce0382b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Going full-time into looping in August Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:29:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Well, when I first got the news in April, I was frightened, then I was angry, and then I finally realized that it was a good thing. I've got a severance package coming my way and I already have my hands on my retirement account. So, now I can take the money and happily do what I've really wanted to do for the past 5 years. I've got a list of things that I've wanted Looperlative to do but haven't had the time to do them. Now I have the time and I can explore all of my ideas. Bob ----- Original Message ----- > Feels more like a cattle prod for most I'd guess? 8-( > -- > Miko Biffle > >> Well, I didn't say that I quit, but hey, sometimes the universe just >> needs >> to give you a nudge. ;-) Bob > >>> Hey.. shit.. LETS ALL QUIT ! ! ! Im up for it... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 20:58:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1173B3BE78; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:58:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pBD9RVUiqX51Ox98DwoREF9EdE5RaICpKxNoINlyM2w=; b=lj+g0nOkADRoN3BxZSWKchDNsAdK2/Xs5ZQzxy6due4JZ1LgQf3N9dptP9hiQNzgvV U0Yap2SfJ6b97F/Gx7YPPImeNJy9ZLZnpG8OqZL9qZj20/ACEyz83en0crr7u9PAmKU4 9Fi/XW9zRO2bu4xJL+SJHyM/Qj+dglwRVwRxw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=KdCOSyflNgzApY5fjRH8A0BviGCiZEEFbiFbSZOwfh2SSrmz6fw5gCBokOathUzFIk aGXlCGAtx2tGJ+tKJ+6DefH4oOF2CJYguKAL85bqRqYr/wBQiyocEwdzBqpeKE212/E1 obX+AOaclu2rLIIa9m4pt97MzRRuJdyYVBYWA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:58:34 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907061358k72598985r3077d19e27258dad@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Gig Preview: The MoinSound Studio Sessions - this Saturday at t-u-b-e with surprise guests From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:58:37 +0000 (UTC) Ok, seriously, this is getting big, yo! I already told you at great length about my ongoing series of bi-weekly virtual concerts, transmitted live from my condo via video stream at http://justin.tv/moinlabs - happening every even calendar week on Saturday 1600 UTC. Now this week, I'm participating in a workshop by M=FCnchen's center for radiophonic art www.t-u-b-e.de. The workshop spans the entire weekend and lasts from 0900 to 1800 local time each day - which would me have to skip my session this week. Now my idea was like this: if we have this workshop, in a venue with DSL connectivity no less, and with several interesting artists participating - couldn't I just transmit from there and include any artists who would like to be included? The answer of the event curator: at all costs, yes! So, this week's "MoinSound Studio Session" will be special in many ways: it will be transmitted from an "out of house" location. It may very well feature interesting guests - though no details as of yet, I'm gonna hit them with the idea right on Saturday. And it will be cool! Mark the date in your calendar! http://tinyurl.com/lhahgd Yours, Rainer --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs http://justin.tv/moinlabs http://vimeo.com/moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=3D117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 21:20:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FD7C3BE78; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:20:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246915217; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=pc1wmYIYeHYYkK7OuXHc32g5Pt8=; b=divasJ+6dATKYPczkeYTzZb72J5OkOrmkzb3xU1OVvCLFgd3m4f5miXdwDQBZHuX MCAqO3XgzaDG9GODBNp7Vt4SDXg035UpJTbskMppy1yNJVs0R/HXibXKGhQpeayU; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QeiJZ4ax-msA:10 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=zImPrG2YAAAA:8 a=fCjZetsWAAAA:8 a=fdMlMPgCAAAA:20 a=Cp0_AXTNAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=JqEG_dyiAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=fkieF908AAAA:8 a=E_yRJ_AoAAAA:8 a=2UEpOeRKj6AFuifnX_UA:9 a=MVTn1epOK5WkW-jJUqMA:7 a=-NRidIkRUFEL12ZIbr1iSziuRvQA:4 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601c9fe7f$8eed0710$e4872245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0907061358k72598985r3077d19e27258dad@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Gig Preview: The MoinSound Studio Sessions - this Saturday at t-u-b-e with surprise guests Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:20:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:20:18 +0000 (UTC) Now that is cool Rainer, it just keeps getting more interesting! Looking forward to it. best, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 4:58 PM Subject: Gig Preview: The MoinSound Studio Sessions - this Saturday at t-u-b-e with surprise guests Ok, seriously, this is getting big, yo! I already told you at great length about my ongoing series of bi-weekly virtual concerts, transmitted live from my condo via video stream at http://justin.tv/moinlabs - happening every even calendar week on Saturday 1600 UTC. Now this week, I'm participating in a workshop by München's center for radiophonic art www.t-u-b-e.de. The workshop spans the entire weekend and lasts from 0900 to 1800 local time each day - which would me have to skip my session this week. Now my idea was like this: if we have this workshop, in a venue with DSL connectivity no less, and with several interesting artists participating - couldn't I just transmit from there and include any artists who would like to be included? The answer of the event curator: at all costs, yes! So, this week's "MoinSound Studio Session" will be special in many ways: it will be transmitted from an "out of house" location. It may very well feature interesting guests - though no details as of yet, I'm gonna hit them with the idea right on Saturday. And it will be cool! Mark the date in your calendar! http://tinyurl.com/lhahgd Yours, Rainer --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs http://justin.tv/moinlabs http://vimeo.com/moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 21:30:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 981A53BE7C; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246915799; bh=ip/O1JdJhhVP+o3gwibwwqm/Np5GNTFPRvxkxRWblSE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=i2Ib1hQDtgWVvxokG3GDZMpxdkQz1MakL8pWTdbZCe5F9a5ZKhdqKq/ASCJM9zz6DjwC0Cvjo+Oy9LdKFYCoBQFPPloSCxUkzxa25OVjykk8e3sp/xYjYtTV6i6RFs+df9rb4ucZXu/bZFCCMX8EFsCjTUHgCefmMUYX6jv6fQU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=BOSzNcZClXkXiAR8eavFAOCbM1svbOQyejoTCVdd/xwA8ERrJOQdqMgRpR5cbX8uZYRfjUO5F9lMMVTznAWSyT77Qj6ZftYnwVgR3/S0n12EhkOkWQheWk3frkHqybjvAQFVvaHVPXQles/NiOof2jZy3AXeEv3n3aEiGNT/Is8=; Message-ID: <395144.57597.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:29:59 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Going full-time into looping in August To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:30:00 +0000 (UTC) cheers Bob! this makes me want to share a little story,there is a guy everybody knows h= ere that does sculptures with balanced stacked stones that lay all over the= lake,basically he looks for stones and makes up figures,takes photographs = of them and sells them to the tourists.I had heard of a bit of his life sto= ry because i was invited to play at his 20 years aniversary of his new way = of life some years ago so there was a massive party thrown for him from all= the people and friends that know him. So i started chatting with him and he said years ago he had houses around t= he lake,cars,a wife and a fulltime neck tie round the clock stressful job.B= ut it took its toll and apparently he had a seizure from a nervous breakdow= n.As he laid in the hospital he decided to quit all of it and apparently hi= s wife soon went with it all as well when he gave her the news.Then he went= through lawsuits and lost just about everything. Then he grew his hair long and took endless walks around the lake and came = up with the stone sculpturing idea.He told me that all those years he never= had time to disconnect or enjoy what he had.But now that he has nothing he= spends with what little he earns doing what he wants and is in spain half = of the year escaping the long winter here and then if he feels like it in t= he summer he returns or goes somewhere else.So then i asked him what he had= learned from all of this and he said" i learned that people are in general= stupid because they still dont know what a real millionaire is;-) Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Bob Amstadt schrieb am Mo, 6.7.2009: > Von: Bob Amstadt > Betreff: Re: Going full-time into looping in August > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Montag, 6. Juli 2009, 13:29 > Well, when I first got the news in > April, I was frightened, then I was angry, and then I > finally realized that it was a good thing.=A0 I've got a > severance package coming my way and I already have my hands > on my retirement account.=A0 So, now I can take the money > and happily do what I've really wanted to do for the past 5 > years.=A0 I've got a list of things that I've wanted > Looperlative to do but haven't had the time to do > them.=A0 Now I have the time and I can explore all of my > ideas. >=20 > Bob >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > > Feels more like a cattle prod for most I'd > guess?=A0 8-( > > -- Miko Biffle > >=20 > >> Well, I didn't say that I quit, but hey, sometimes > the universe just needs > >> to give you a nudge. ;-)=A0=A0=A0Bob > >=20 > >>>=A0 Hey.. shit.. LETS ALL QUIT ! ! ! Im up > for it... >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 22:24:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A6233BE75; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <625484a5dce4a6e7c853a30b57767629.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Electrix MoFX : Is it worth it? From: looppool@cruzio.com Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:24:41 +0000 (UTC) I should add to my glowing review of the MoFX that my enthusiasm must be tempered with the knowledge that I am a drummer/percussionist originally.... so what turns me on about the MoFX is that you can play the effects rhythmically like a percussion instrument and I don't really know anything else that uses that paradigm. if it weren't for that particular (and to me, exciting) aspect of the unit, I wouldn't even consider using it as just an effects processor. The effects themselves are pretty prosaic. Just being able to play them rhythmically is what makes it bitchen to me. (huh huh huh, did he say bitchen?) You want bang for the buck and a very low profile, try that wonderful red 1/2 spaced BOSS VF-1 It has 24 bit effects, a small profile (though the little sucker is HEAVY for travelling on airplanes) and some really nice sounds. Or I'm even thinking Plogue Bidule as a virtual mixer with real time VST instruments for processing...................sssssshhhhhhhh, don't tell anyone I'm considering that, it might destroy my hardware centric live looping street cred. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 6 23:38:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAD733BE7C; Mon, 6 Jul 2009 23:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1lf3IhYx0ofePFKVg0vBnlQYeRIvD/CTSfWnZnavBsU=; b=DUljUrekniWBGCnGqH0VQUyJyaMfWc5mbTc4XRrz/92F5VI3vsZZta05Lh5PxkfgZG YDki2Epxuw81ktrVxI3VVQ1/ltNOMCak4FL5x3/k4rub6lWm1uuEwm4JEetAnpJXNdPx d9AskJhOmNjhG+smrdCui5oA1cTQLscQ6sF3w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=u50AUwv8W1ILbFS/QTMgBlxUzKzHbfJVErAHnh5mqtiHsrzDw2QKEOZitEJnFAj6fQ 3ded8I3hYgQt//MAcGyXonoYTrLBKzxn79t2/33ulRnOSDeRByzbYGa5XwOK28EJUZmw Rc2D6f9CIMPtknXkaKNKJ+ijv5RII+droNevY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <625484a5dce4a6e7c853a30b57767629.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> References: <625484a5dce4a6e7c853a30b57767629.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:38:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Electrix MoFX : Is it worth it? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 23:38:26 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:24 PM, wrote: > I am a drummer/percussionist originally.... so what turns me on > about the MoFX is that you can play the effects rhythmically > like a percussion instrument and I don't really know anything > else that uses that paradigm. http://www.sugar-bytes.com/content/products/Artillery2/index.php?lang=en put that on the receiving end of a MIDI kit and I bet a lot of fun will happen. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 01:49:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 428D93BE77; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 01:49:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vIAlr0KQbGdjHJLFwQr64HFNMEkOKkHvYQ2FwNzZTqc=; b=YTUECYFTkepF4t2Pp9iwCLz5wCpDZnUTf+rTvWPriOMFUwJvvEsVXrVFoNCqiA3lwb 7pp9yZx+ifqbL3o8EeuvU0BejOIuOe1uRuXtgQoD6TQ4FEAZknuaUvGhvPU1/2yB5rM0 YUUsws+XVg7J/0eKQqe3Tarl7tfwVNpNKQeJQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jjl3qEMx0T+BtnqEilwX0XOdyh6CH4Fg6Ugq3x/CkYZIo0kvRydI4E0hqo4srbCxmK Mo4LZQzsiMYtqvQSvJGMOVq5m10wX2aE5V76BtDIi/8/DDJUphl9HCWsWxrOpVsgN2kG xFIX06uLEvn87GOyjfixJKLaKwaY4JHLY7njo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A4E3F49.3010907@flyloops.com> References: <7761A6B4-5DA2-4012-906E-E90157D0FCB9@gmail.com> <7d2794000907030423p44ca7dd3r4247cffcfdfd6686@mail.gmail.com> <55EB5810-F80B-4639-A756-8E9F62503E51@mac.com> <7864BF552E374981AFAA9AB5393ED8F1@D30WYQ3J> <4A4E3F49.3010907@flyloops.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:49:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Name that looping vid/artist From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 01:49:18 +0000 (UTC) Hmmm, I didn't see any camera cuts. I didn't hear any parts come in without him doing something, but I could've missed something. I vote that it could've been live, but it would've required an off-camera person operating when the looping device was recording or not. Such a person could also have performed fades. And of course, all the levels would've had to be set either in advance, or post-production (for the instruments). Still, it's probably just as easy to do it that way than to fake it. I've been seeing/hearing a lot "indie" rock acts lately (even popular ones!) that are just one person with live looping. It definitely feels like it's soon to be the next big thing. On one hand, several of them are doing some impressive things around getting it to work within the dynamics of a song structure, not strictly a continuously building collection of different instrumental parts. On the other hand, many of the acts I've seen left me feeling like the performers are locked into a scripted grid, with fewer opportunities to take the material in a direction other than a previously-drawn, forward-pointing arrow from start to finish. My prediction is that looping is going to see a lot of popularity as this trend gets more popular. The downside is that unless the well-known artists find a way to fix that forward-arrow problem, the "wow" factor among audiences will eventually wane. Matt Davignon tour!: www.ribosomemusic.com Aaron Leese was all: > > Yeah, that was David Ford doing "go to hell" ... the link is now dead, an= d I > couldn't find it on youtube ... so you may be out of luck if you wanted t= o > see it again. > per the live/not discussion ... I'll cast a vote for not ....well =A0... = not > live in one take ..... there are parts that come in/fade out without any > help from him, and a number of camera cuts that would mean that if it wer= e > one take it would be a number of cameras ...... but hey, you never know. = =A0I > havea feeling it was all recorded that day with a lot of loops, and then = he > is just walking around and recreating the experience for the camera. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DY0vcxA29okM > Jay Bell wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> =A0Some time ago there was a "live" looping performance... it was set in >> some guys apartment, he played drums, guitars, as well as making percuss= ion >> sounds out of spoons, coffee machines etc. Does anyone remember it? I >> remember there was some controversy over whether or not it was a real li= ve >> performance... but it was cute nonetheless. Anyone remember the name of = the >> artist? >> =A0Many thanks >> Jay > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 01:55:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F2C93BE78; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 01:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:55:48 UTC Message-Id: From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <625484a5dce4a6e7c853a30b57767629.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Electrix MoFX : Is it worth it? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:49:06 -0700 References: <625484a5dce4a6e7c853a30b57767629.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 01:55:48 +0000 (UTC) The other positive thing about the MoFX is the ability to apply the effects to only portions of the frequency range. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 02:21:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C7933BE73; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 02:21:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=a7CRqmOvIgT7nI8wgAacp7y7a1O2i/5LnP5B/40eiJvecfbqH+CEijRy29/h+Eb5; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:X-Priority:Date:References:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: From: joe cavaleri To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A35307A5A6D4BDAB1BAEDD7F47235AC@bobdell> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-190658060 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Going full-time into looping in August X-Priority: 3 Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:21:53 -0700 References: <4A518330.4050005@cruzio.com> <001201c9fe67$9bacf5e0$e4872245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A35307A5A6D4BDAB1BAEDD7F47235AC@bobdell> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-ELNK-Trace: 573b2ac3a2420bc9f258f48946e2642d9ef193a6bfc3dd4804a0f8f15b1b6cf93db323e77790c0cf2601a10902912494350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 99.28.2.239 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 02:21:55 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-190658060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Best of luck Bob, Hope to someday join the Looperlative community. joe On Jul 6, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: > Well, my day job will be coming to an end at the end of July. I see > this as a sign that it is time for me to move on. So, I'm > dedicating myself 100% to Looperlative starting in August. It is my > goal to provide better looping gear to the community and help bring > more people into the world of looping. Expect new offerings from > Looperlative this year because you will have my undivided attention > very shortly. > > Loop on! > > Bob Amstadt > Looperlative Audio Products --Apple-Mail-1-190658060 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Best of luck = Bob,

Hope to someday join the Looperlative = community.

         =  joe


On Jul 6, 2009, at = 12:02 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote:

Well, my day = job will be coming to an end at the end of July.  I see this as a = sign that it is time for me to move on.  So, I'm dedicating myself = 100% to Looperlative starting in August.  It is my goal to = provide better looping gear to the community and help bring more people = into the world of looping.  Expect new offerings from Looperlative = this year because you will have my undivided attention very = shortly.
 
Loop = on!
 
Bob = Amstadt
Looperlative = Audio = Products

= --Apple-Mail-1-190658060-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 02:22:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69C433BE73; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 02:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A52B17C.5040802@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:22:52 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Going full-time into looping in August References: <4A518330.4050005@cruzio.com> <001201c9fe67$9bacf5e0$e4872245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A35307A5A6D4BDAB1BAEDD7F47235AC@bobdell> <20090706141925.mj31mffu1wog804g@webmail.musetrap.com> <9ab0c76f0907061242i77bdb7bag8f3b7dd4205b0be9@mail.gmail.com> <650178D455824B6FB5BE9A9C96843AC4@bobdell> <3fa302e30907061313w6470a4d8w26f4ae53cce0382b@mail.gmail.com> <0171F500B9374A89AAA97675161C2B83@bobdell> In-Reply-To: <0171F500B9374A89AAA97675161C2B83@bobdell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 02:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Bob, I'm really excited about this news and am looking forward to hearing and seeing what you do. Thanks for sharing and good luck. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Well, when I first got the news in April, I was frightened, then I was > angry, and then I finally realized that it was a good thing. I've got > a severance package coming my way and I already have my hands on my > retirement account. So, now I can take the money and happily do what > I've really wanted to do for the past 5 years. I've got a list of > things that I've wanted Looperlative to do but haven't had the time to > do them. Now I have the time and I can explore all of my ideas. > > Bob From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 02:45:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8171B3BE77; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 02:45:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5360 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:45:21 UTC Message-ID: <4A52A294.8030100@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:19:16 -0400 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Going full-time into looping in August References: <4A518330.4050005@cruzio.com> <001201c9fe67$9bacf5e0$e4872245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A35307A5A6D4BDAB1BAEDD7F47235AC@bobdell> <20090706141925.mj31mffu1wog804g@webmail.musetrap.com> <9ab0c76f0907061242i77bdb7bag8f3b7dd4205b0be9@mail.gmail.com> <650178D455824B6FB5BE9A9C96843AC4@bobdell> <3fa302e30907061313w6470a4d8w26f4ae53cce0382b@mail.gmail.com> <0171F500B9374A89AAA97675161C2B83@bobdell> In-Reply-To: <0171F500B9374A89AAA97675161C2B83@bobdell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 02:45:21 +0000 (UTC) Bob Amstadt wrote: > I've got a list of > things that I've wanted Looperlative to do but haven't had the time to > do them. Now I have the time and I can explore all of my ideas. > > Bob Glances over at Looperlative. Grins. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 05:13:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C70C3BE77; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 05:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [67.180.253.245] X-Originating-Email: [tygerman_gb@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Ty Gott" To: Subject: Hardware Looper goes Loopy for Software Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:13:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0091_01C9FE87.020B8800" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: Acn+wa4pmpqpqL+lSb23m9HdGQ5HLw== Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2009 05:13:36.0003 (UTC) FILETIME=[AE1CB530:01C9FEC1] Resent-Message-ID: <88JRjD.A.gbC.BmtUKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 05:13:37 +0000 (UTC) ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01C9FE87.020B8800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've just put together a new software based live looping rig and thought telling the story here might help some and start an engaging discussion with others. I held back on the software side for a couple of reasons. One is the mental image of say the Kiss guy, Gene Simons, performing except it's a notebook instead of a guitar, doesn't seem like Rock and Roll. Folks that was Eric Clapton on guitar and on PC its ... Second I have done lots of software recording and I end up sitting in front of the PC the whole time and not playing guitar. I needed a new notebook for travel and figured it could host a looping rig as well. I really need a netbook for travel and I figured I could squeeze a setup onto a new 10" notebook and if not I still had all my gear. I'm a long time hardware looper been at it for over a decade. I only play guitar and have 4 of Roland's GK boxes but my sound is now focused on the 2 VG units I've got a vg8 and a vg99. I was using guitar to MIDI for everything but now I only use it to play the drums. To loop I use one guitar to control one or more of the units at a time. I play in a bass lines, drums, and rhythms by switching on and off my units and then overdubbing loops. I was using a Boomerang, an Echoplex and A/B switches for this. Hardware: I got a real deal on a Toshiba nb205 1.66ghz 1gb RAM and a 150gb HD and 3 USB2 ports. mAudio Fast Track Ultra USB with 6 ins and 8 outs. Behringer FCB1010 to control the software from a stomp box hands free (must have the free software editor) Software: Mobius - My new looper it's a simulation of 8 stereo Echoplex units which all can be in sync. The interface was very familiar to me as I have an Echoplex and now I have eight on a free download. Bidule- A virtual wiring rack under MIDI control from the fcb1010 stomp box. I have to be able to route my instruments to the right tracks, record to the right tracks and mute the boxes I'm not using. Moduis is hosted and wired into Bidule. Jamstix - A virtual drummer and virtual sound source from my drums. Also wired into BIdule. My whole rig: VG99, VG8, FCB1010, FV500L, US-20 and the netbook with mAudio USB Old Rig: VG99, VG8, SR16, FC300, US-20, DD6, 2 double 1 single 1 triple AB switches, 4 channel mixer Boomerang, and the Echoplex I'm floored by what I've built so far. I added 6 tracks of looping and stereo for everything. I should have done this a long time ago. I can now not only layer my sounds and loop them up but go back and rework or replace them by track or just adjust the volume. I can sound parts that aren't looped. I can rewire my rig on the fly and return to old wirings saved to disk with Bidule. The netbook is a tight squeeze everything has to be turned off on it except the sound stuff. I'm running into the high 60 dsp in Bidule and about 50% on the CPU when drumming and looping. The available screen is tight as well. Not much room for all the indicators I need to see to operate it all. I do need to see it but not touch it during a song. I was/am very disappointed in the Roland fc300. I've been using it for the vg99. For that it's just OK but you gotta have a foot controller for a unit like the 99. It just wasn't setup to offer enough buttons to do the looping right and its dual switch buttons are a pain if the lights don't match up. I hooked up a single expression pedal and now use the fcb1010 banks for looping and switching, and others for selecting patches on the two VGs. I'm still working on getting everything setup right but I've got it all working and am looking forward to playing . now Cheers, -Ty www.soundclick.com\TygermanGrooveBand ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01C9FE87.020B8800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I’ve just put together a new software based = live looping rig and thought telling the story here might help some and start = an engaging discussion with others. 

I held back on the software side for a couple of = reasons. One is the mental image of say the Kiss guy, Gene Simons, performing = except it’s a notebook instead of a guitar, doesn't seem like Rock and = Roll. Folks that was Eric Clapton on guitar and on PC its ...  Second I = have done lots of software recording and I end up sitting in front of the PC = the whole time and not playing guitar. I needed a new notebook for travel = and figured it could host a looping rig as well. I really need a netbook for = travel and I figured I could squeeze a setup onto a new 10” notebook and = if not I still had all my gear.

I’m a long time hardware looper been at it = for over a decade. I only play guitar and have 4 of Roland’s GK boxes but my = sound is now focused on the 2 VG units I’ve got a vg8 and a vg99. I was = using guitar to MIDI for everything but now I only use it to play the drums. = To loop I use one guitar to control one or more of the units at a time. I play = in a bass lines, drums, and rhythms by switching on and off my units and then overdubbing  loops.  I was using a Boomerang, an  = Echoplex and A/B switches for this. 

Hardware:

I got a real deal on a Toshiba nb205 1.66ghz 1gb = RAM and a 150gb HD and 3 USB2 ports.

mAudio Fast Track Ultra USB with 6 ins and 8 outs. =

Behringer  FCB1010 to control the software = from a stomp box hands free (must have the free software editor)

Software:

Mobius – My new looper it’s a = simulation of 8 stereo Echoplex units which all can be in sync. The interface was very = familiar to me as I have an Echoplex and now I have eight on a free download. =

Bidule- A virtual wiring rack under MIDI control = from the fcb1010 stomp box. I have to be able to route my instruments to the right = tracks, record to the right tracks and mute the boxes I’m not using. = Moduis is hosted and wired into Bidule.

Jamstix - A virtual drummer and virtual sound = source from my drums. Also wired into BIdule.

My whole rig: VG99, VG8, FCB1010, FV500L, US-20 and = the netbook with mAudio USB

Old Rig: VG99, VG8, SR16, FC300, US-20, DD6, 2 = double 1 single 1 triple AB switches, 4 channel mixer Boomerang, and the = Echoplex

I'm floored by what I've built so far. I added 6 = tracks of looping and stereo for everything. I should have done this a long time = ago. I can now not only layer my sounds and loop them up but go back and rework = or replace them by track or just adjust the volume. I can sound parts that aren’t looped. I can rewire my rig on the fly and return to old = wirings saved to disk with Bidule.

The netbook is a tight squeeze everything has to be = turned off on it except the sound stuff. I’m running into the high 60 dsp = in Bidule and about 50% on the CPU when drumming and looping. The available = screen is tight as well. Not much room for all the indicators I need to see to = operate it all. I do need to see it but not touch it during a = song.

I was/am very disappointed in the Roland fc300. = I’ve been using it for the vg99. For that it’s just OK but you gotta = have a foot controller for a unit like the 99. It just wasn’t setup to = offer enough buttons to do the looping right and its dual switch buttons are a = pain if the lights don’t match up. I hooked up a single expression = pedal and now use the fcb1010 banks for looping and switching, and others for = selecting patches on the two VGs.

I’m still working on getting everything setup = right but I’ve got it all working and am looking forward to playing = … now

Cheers,

-Ty

www.soundclick.com\= TygermanGrooveBand

 

------=_NextPart_000_0091_01C9FE87.020B8800-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 05:55:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36F2B3BE77; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 05:55:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 355 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:55:48 UTC Message-Id: From: Steve Lawson To: Loop List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-203135683 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Going full-time into looping in August Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:49:51 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <96D_8C.A.5dD.kNuUKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 05:55:49 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-203135683 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob, good luck with the transition - that's a big big step, but one that's made a whole lot easier by having a product as outstanding as the looperlative as the product you're selling. Happy to help in any way I can. :) Steve Where to find me on the web - _______________________ ********************************* *** www.stevelawson.net - shiny new site *** www.stevelawson.net/blog - blog *** www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson *** www.reverbnation.com/stevelawson *** www.twitter.com/solobasssteve *** http://www.youtube.com/user/StevieSteve46 - loads of new video here! --Apple-Mail-1-203135683 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob,

good luck with the = transition - that's a big big step, but one that's made a whole lot = easier by having a product as outstanding as the looperlative as the = product you're selling.

Happy to help in any way I can. = :)

Steve

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= --Apple-Mail-1-203135683-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 08:07:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 124AD3BE79; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:07:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 222279708/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.168.69/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.168.69 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuwBAMeeUkpPTqhF/2dsb2JhbAAIzUOEEgWJMQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,361,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="222279708" Message-ID: <4A53059C.30206@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:21:48 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix MoFX : Is it worth it? References: <4A518330.4050005@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:07:31 +0000 (UTC) Dennis Moser wrote: > (anyone want a Lexicon Vortex? I'm > cutting back ... ) !! to only 3 of 'em ?? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 11:15:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 236253BE78; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:15:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1246965343; bh=rfPUd0rFQoVRDpAKsZIL6ujSU8Sb82MU3ue3Gs/1rL0=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=qz9EQb0ExWvS3BoHwfPh0rtBU/qTZIUlu6rwuVUy0gxtQDXEs3VT53demkBFBFZ9G 5SW5snbxD6zdvp7OXm/f2D7CcD8gqdDC9Gv4Cfth43h80z+EhyTv+xmqtNDFyR8IrE G+76UMmdQFN0XrOF7EPTq+5hNnngyllGegcT/TWE= Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 13:15:42 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re:Going full-time into looping in August MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:15:45 +0000 (UTC) > Bob Amstadt wrote: > Well, my day job will be coming to an end at the end of July. I see > this as a sign that it is time for me to move on. So, I'm dedicating > myself 100% to Looperlative starting in August. It is my goal to provi= de > better looping gear to the community and help bring more people into th= e > world of looping. Expect new offerings from Looperlative this year bec= ause > you will have my undivided attention very shortly. Bob, That's the right spirit: turning a negative thing into something positive= . So consider it as a good decision and go for it :) If there is anything= I can do to help you with achieving your goal, please let me know. http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 12:43:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA9B13BE73; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 12:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=k5Q3m0Z3in2tBCHgbTD4VrlFa0E8oTx6EJBJQWVU8I4=; b=OqQ1pJPV5cR+GDxNkYWmWwnmvJeR9k5SHxzVBon+CdmNragh9+efUHBN5LH8nnakZp NXPLC6/nwQ+EPs2r1geWr1kt6m44tKbyaPMo/cqQHKyxx2ncUvMAUsfndQiB2fVQmUPz Oc/SQKjBtpwz+NcJl8bvdpqowlNAzhLBohOZo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kRSnaOB/YlAe7gl+rpLJR3Zd+UexE/w7r46oGgDz4evrQZk//TvsRDcuw+YPG+1qhm uldps2vw9vNei/30+GEgoHl0tCE6oZy6bpUQbNXxnCV2QHLbh00ajWHPv3abMhBOz6WI 1dSH4mOkeScvSzUMiBuOiDoXXn7luo7CRK5gw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:43:10 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907070543r66170cf6kfd0916d3265c80ee@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Going full-time into looping in August From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0u_sh.A.6HG.fL0UKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 12:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Bob congrats on the opportunity. It's great that have some funds plus the sev and can give looperative a full committment go as its rare in our world to get to do what we really want to do. Though I'm not as knowledgeable about your product I look foward to learning where you go with it. All good things Jim On 7/7/09, Sjaak wrote: >> Bob Amstadt wrote: >> Well, my day job will be coming to an end at the end of July. I see >> this as a sign that it is time for me to move on. So, I'm dedicating >> myself 100% to Looperlative starting in August. It is my goal to provide >> better looping gear to the community and help bring more people into the >> world of looping. Expect new offerings from Looperlative this year >> because >> you will have my undivided attention very shortly. > > Bob, > That's the right spirit: turning a negative thing into something positive. > So consider it as a good decision and go for it :) If there is anything I > can do to help you with achieving your goal, please let me know. > > http://euroloopfest.com/ > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > > __________________________________ > Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADSL, > surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g > > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From gulbanghmed1@msn.com Tue Jul 7 13:47:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 334 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:47:16 UTC Received: from blu0-omc3-s27.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s27.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.102]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FC13BE6F for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 13:47:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU108-W13 ([65.55.116.74]) by blu0-omc3-s27.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:41:30 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_af5a06cf-4223-4c61-8830-a0f233ed7cd8_" X-Originating-IP: [81.91.239.60] Reply-To: From: Gulban Ahmed Subject: Good Day My Dear Call Me Urgent+229-96-61-66-51. 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= --_af5a06cf-4223-4c61-8830-a0f233ed7cd8_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 15:26:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDEF93BE73; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 15:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 440 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:26:58 UTC Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:19:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Tom Ulichny To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <672375619.5913301246979978381.JavaMail.root@mail3.sitezoogle.com> In-Reply-To: <433849769.5913281246979967109.JavaMail.root@mail3.sitezoogle.com> Subject: Electix Repeater for sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [24.145.131.8] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.6_GA_2313.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/5.0.6_GA_2313.RHEL5_64) Resent-Message-ID: <5kg0gD.A.DRC.Cl2UKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 15:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Hello all, Tom here, a silent memeber for many months now :) I've been a HUGE fan of the Electrix repeater, and love my unit. It's in great condition, and everything is functioning well. Long story short, I've been using the RC 20 and 50 lately (mostly because of simplicity for gigging, as I have a large set up and carting the rack unit can be a bit of a pain...) and now have been writing and arranging with the RC's and the repeater is collecting dust (not literally though). Has manual, and will include 2 flash cards, plus the skb 8 space rack unit if interested (which would be ideal for shipping as well; I live in Columbus Ohio). Thought I would send this out before posting on ebay. Price is negotiable, make me an offer! Cheers, Tom Ulichny www.ulichnymusic.com www.myspace.com/ulichnymusic From hkblog.nbvwe3dpm4wtkojvg44tomrygq-looparc=loopersdelight.com@returns.bulk.yahoo.com Tue Jul 7 16:08:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 346 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:08:52 UTC Received: from n2.bullet.hki.yahoo.com (n2.bullet.hki.yahoo.com [202.43.221.27]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 03AF13BE6F for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:08:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [202.43.221.24] by n2.bullet.hki.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2009 16:02:52 -0000 Received: from [124.108.94.149] by t1.bullet.hki.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2009 16:02:52 -0000 Date: 08 Jul 2009 00:02:52 +0800 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by w9.blog.hk2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2009 16:02:52 -0000 From: =?UTF-8?B?cm9zZTIwMQ==?= To: looparc@loopersdelight.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: hkblog-invite X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: hkblog-595797284 X-Originating-IP: [211.162.78.177] Subject: =?UTF-8?B?cm9zZTIwMei3n+S9oOWIhuS6q+iHquW3sSBCbG9n?= Message-Id: <20090707160852.03AF13BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com>

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 17:41:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 548503BE79; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:41:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rrLmPeksk8tO3vXaroee0EcdKGsFWrJxsyMagXVerYM=; b=TYZMrdpfMhF1fle/F4tJXrzoXDQc+jh5udH+a05MuNanX1w8VjUWeATBUUGFpO5iEx pBguuz+5DWDZU3H30pgBnQCLgVparnu4yiZcZnR2ebQoCgstKJqz2wTVMi7vhyqhRJIj CXQ2Q4P0107pYCYOyVnd7v6SPvNhetfFDb/Y8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ina/2kT7dXLW6xzdrA9TrlBNMrZcu0n2yan6R23Xx0K0IDpYtB65MTaXNZ0Y4jJgP2 C+8g4Ua9ZWXewGF6eb53vl9aIse8oYEvmA2vlawtUeX+7TAk4FJbgBcNWZPoxMi01opR cCYELectWK2k3VLyl2RGyL5euPQCMJ9wzk25Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:40:59 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907071040v6199d10ei77190c3559642b4d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Electrix MoFX : Is it worth it? - user interface considerations From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0sO-3B.A.bhF.ti4UKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:41:01 +0000 (UTC) Rick said (about the MoFX): > so what turns me on about the MoFX is that you can play the effects rhythmically like a percussion instrument and I don't really know anything else that uses that paradigm. > if it weren't for that particular (and to me, exciting) aspect of the unit, I wouldn't even consider using it as just an effects processor. and later on went on to state: > You want bang for the buck and a very low profile, try that wonderful red 1/2 spaced BOSS VF-1. So I'm wondering: why don't you take a VF-1 (always remember: you can have four of them in the same rack space as one MoFX, unless you're using a shallow rack), or ('though I'm repeating myself) a Nord Modular G2 Engine (1HU), and combine it with something like this: http://www.akaipro.com/mpd24 ...and program the stuff so that you can do exactly what a MoFX does - or something else entirely where you rhythmically trigger stuff or do other crazy things. True, it doesn't have the nice flashing LED ring around the tap tempo button, but apart from that... A lot of the contemporary effects processors (and also of the non-contemporary) allow for parameter modification via MIDI commands: with the VF-1 (and also the old Sony GR-MP5), you can have up to four parameters per patch controlled by MIDI, with the FireworX, the Eclipse and even my old Digitech StudioQuad there are eight of them, and there's tons more with a truly modular system like the Nord. Now look at the sixteen (velocity- and pressure-sensitive) pads of the Akai controller: would you like to use eight of them to punch in distortion, separately for left and right channel and for four bands? And use another one to suddenly change the delay length? Only your imagination is the limit here, no need to be stuck with that user interface of an otherwise dull effects box like the MoFX. Just a thought, Rainer ps: no, didn't do it myself with this specific setup, but had been successful with a KP3 and a BCR2000 in combination with Mobius in Sus mode. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 19:21:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7CB83BE79; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246994475; bh=dxssYsRfAald5kYEz2vI1WuXWJATGQruo0OwOL97g5s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VlhWAp5uS2nPZPPDcEvH87TJ7pxNKN5PsCBjPryl0kX5cUxSBwf3Tw536aPwxoulc/tRm6OTQDZYhHYbNFwHtzqyDtHP3jmDDWkoZ0e3X1GKDpPrqr/prco1RZhdviopqE2Ir0eCidgB/Tfz2mhq0/kC5rwo0kOuv1qrgn2P3NA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=B0gAUHOnQBHNuOat/YFNlEwkGALh+8jV9023pePWoL3NDpBtQqszJt1sZ2Z5qdcI+s59loS0qPk0fR7Xyujwz0U9er0jKqbqdXpRD4T5GeHiNpir2aagpCn8CmZh8SU+n3B/mzkDl9I3fvzQjG0jIHnzyUEDYAKolDPafVaeWVs=; Message-ID: <599703.43892.qm@web81001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: kLU_ye0VM1lKnDXT2vljE8m_EIOGJ9XrMUgiA34QneJ3pUtqRzkKbQ9Vm6enLm6vJWdLaYSKj7ZphB0bfWUBt4woh5QuBv8UoKZaQLPRjuUUJhk1naO7YTGEaOYqXwnP_LRYYJi7jAg5k2wOI45PWXD3nDB28vSWrRsEOAe0MnjOSQU6LrqbmEQhR0rQ8edgtjR3OBpWaWgT5KYOdawaey1hs01zl90LEX.uQHGXM28UypocFyz3t4ZaG.apmh.cZZl3BK.tb7vQXIbNHvZ_Kphf5hegqErrGaZeS.O1guuIrw3PNb6p964ZXcPiPFqT0ZqXuPTL7VrxGBGkUhu4dCA0Yi4dRvLXczY9Rw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.43 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 References: <672375619.5913301246979978381.JavaMail.root@mail3.sitezoogle.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 12:21:15 -0700 (PDT) From: margaret noble Subject: Let's Talk Tuning!!!! Electronic, Acoustic, Challenges. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <672375619.5913301246979978381.JavaMail.root@mail3.sitezoogle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-149248851-1246994475=:43892" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:21:16 +0000 (UTC) --0-149248851-1246994475=:43892 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello List, First, thanks for all your input on my noise posting. I must say the biggest change was separating my power cables from the audio cables! Onto Tuning Now Background: I have always relied on happy accidents or not cared about tuning. I like wild electronic music and world music with alternative tunings and it never seemed to matter. Also, since I mix in random sounds like toys or records, tuning is impossible to control. Recently, I have decided that I want more expressive control over what I am saying. I am trying to tune together an analogue drum machine which can't hold tune but makes kick ass basslines, a psaltery and kalimba. I am seriously pulling out my hair with this challenge. I want to pull it off but it t'ain't looking so good! Questions (Clearly Subjective!) - Is there a tolerable amount of cents you can be off when trying to be in key? - When mixing in non-traditional sounds together, how disturbing is it to listeners if tunings are loose? http://margaretnoble.net/ ________________________________ From: Tom Ulichny To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 8:19:38 AM Subject: Electix Repeater for sale Hello all, Tom here, a silent memeber for many months now :) I've been a HUGE fan of the Electrix repeater, and love my unit. It's in great condition, and everything is functioning well. Long story short, I've been using the RC 20 and 50 lately (mostly because of simplicity for gigging, as I have a large set up and carting the rack unit can be a bit of a pain...) and now have been writing and arranging with the RC's and the repeater is collecting dust (not literally though). Has manual, and will include 2 flash cards, plus the skb 8 space rack unit if interested (which would be ideal for shipping as well; I live in Columbus Ohio). Thought I would send this out before posting on ebay. Price is negotiable, make me an offer! Cheers, Tom Ulichny www.ulichnymusic.com www.myspace.com/ulichnymusic --0-149248851-1246994475=:43892 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hello List,

First, thanks for all your input on my noise posting. I must say the biggest change was separating my power cables from the audio cables!

Onto Tuning Now

Background: I have always relied on happy accidents or not cared about tuning. I like wild electronic music and world music with alternative tunings and it never seemed to matter. Also, since I mix in random sounds like toys or records, tuning is impossible to control. Recently, I have decided that I want more expressive control over what I am saying. I am trying to tune together an analogue drum machine which can't hold tune but makes kick ass basslines, a psaltery and kalimba. I am seriously pulling out my hair with this challenge. I want to pull it off but it t'ain't looking so good!

Questions (Clearly Subjective!)

- Is there a tolerable amount of cents you can be off when trying to be in key?

- When mixing in non-traditional sounds together, how disturbing is it to listeners if tunings are loose?





 
http://margaretnoble.net/




From: Tom Ulichny <tom@ulichnymusic.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 8:19:38 AM
Subject: Electix Repeater for sale

Hello all,

Tom here, a silent memeber for many months now :)  I've been a HUGE fan of the Electrix repeater, and love my unit.  It's in great condition, and everything is functioning well.  Long story short, I've been using the RC 20 and 50 lately (mostly because of simplicity for gigging, as I have a large set up and carting the rack unit can be a bit of a pain...) and now have been writing and arranging with the RC's and the repeater is collecting dust (not literally though).

Has manual, and will include 2 flash cards, plus the skb 8 space rack unit if interested (which would be ideal for shipping as well; I live in Columbus Ohio).  Thought I would send this out before posting on ebay.  Price is negotiable, make me an offer! 

Cheers,

Tom Ulichny
www.ulichnymusic.com
www.myspace.com/ulichnymusic


--0-149248851-1246994475=:43892-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 19:44:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDA873BE78; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JVFWYTqMj3l/bXy4ylEX6ClKgSUXAsZncg+1OotAP8A=; b=ZEgFs6/qOe8p1N/yIg+4RtLiRteMNC9ibHtgPQe4opmoFzSSbxKmS105yvmyQ8rA1W WVO5trkrLvPt6gRsaRNTTe7GPwqo8OohzTTVyK3WJtVdix7eOV5aFiV7NInCvB3AWXrO A47rnxUiVITr1JGz2f+xBqKke0u9RboKAlUrk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=E0xirzRHOyzx2EbV5Tzfe5m94Th2Z7drOSiTNCHrPTCiVQOdiOf/xQP7eNaPA5pDOb GprSwQs8wR8wM/Br1Q93Z76SpuyghrvQZ06HaP02dYo9u5R4c290tseobAUzLd1iKzEJ uOvCotfvtqQof/APgSyDG63kjpLljYJkkvUpo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <599703.43892.qm@web81001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <672375619.5913301246979978381.JavaMail.root@mail3.sitezoogle.com> <599703.43892.qm@web81001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:44:41 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907071244p2e3b7d82sa0e54eeac4eca297@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Let's Talk Tuning!!!! Electronic, Acoustic, Challenges. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:44:42 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:21 PM, margaret noble wrote: > Questions (Clearly Subjective!) > > - Is there a tolerable amount of cents you can be off when trying to be in > key? > > - When mixing in non-traditional sounds together, how disturbing is it to > listeners if tunings are loose? The "answer" I have found to those questions is that mistuning tolerance has a lot to do with if the out-of-tune audio is part of a musical gesture. If it is, listeners can take quite a poor tonality and it may even come out good to their ears. For sounding example, listen to some vocals by David Bowie. He is a true master of using the "correct false notes"! If a phrase is delivered with duende and a clear direction towards an undeniable target (the correct pitch) it just works. Sometimes when listening to popular music it amazes me how out of tune it actually is. When producing recorded music and working with out of tune material it is essential to develop the ability to "listen with fresh ears". The easiest way to hear your work-under-progress with a first listening experience is to become as close to a first-time listener as possible i.e. taking a really long brake from hearing the stuff and then get back to it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 19:49:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 216BF3BE7E; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:49:02 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Sb9MeZAGJzvc59ZWxdE+DY4+obIQW4Op/d8+D1sK/SJYne6br1UNE0D3PkVcjhmfrFmzXd17wGd/d85za7FPYCbynC8Hlv6xvhioMtsI4DLq459JG7Hn8W5arzJBfXDe; Message-ID: <20090707144221.hzilpmhigo4gokso@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:42:21 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Let's Talk Tuning!!!! Electronic, Acoustic, Challenges. References: <672375619.5913301246979978381.JavaMail.root@mail3.sitezoogle.com> <599703.43892.qm@web81001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <599703.43892.qm@web81001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Quoting margaret noble : > > > Questions (Clearly Subjective!) > > - Is there a tolerable amount of cents you can be off when trying to =20 > be in key? > Hi Margaret, This depends on some factors. If the sounds are sustained and have =20 little vibrato, then tuning errors are more noticeable. It happens that I tune and service pipe organs which are sustained and =20 normally are played without vibrato. Within a division, it is =20 important to have everything in tune (because errors tend to =20 accumulate). Across divisions, the tuning may drift (due to =20 temperature variation) and as long as they stay within 4 cents of each =20 other, then the "out of tuneness" doesn't interfere with music making. =20 From 4 to 8 cents the divisions start to "celeste" -- that is, the =20 out-of-tuneness produces noticeable beats that are still "listenable". =20 Beyond 8 cents, the tone develops into a "honky-tonk" effect -- =20 beyond 12 cents it just sounds "sour". When looping the theremin, I endeavor to stay within four cents of the =20 target pitch. Again, instruments that are not sustained may not be as noticeable. > > - When mixing in non-traditional sounds together, how disturbing is =20 > it to listeners if tunings are loose? > For my ears, if the tuning is non-standard, then nothing jars my ears. =20 However, to include non-standard pitches in the midst of an =20 otherwise tonal work may sound like a "wrong note". An example, when =20 a singer is accompanied by a fixed-pitch instrument (a piano) and hits =20 a non-standard pitch, most listeners will percieve it as a "bad" note =20 rather than a new tuning. In fiction, there is a concept of the "suspension of disbelief" -- and =20 I think a similar concept works in music. If you set up a "frame" =20 based on non-standard tuning, then it is easier to accept =20 quarter-tones and other "non-tempered" pitches. I always enjoy your work and look forward to hearing where your =20 exploration of tuning/pitch/harmony will take your music. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 20:32:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C70403BE79; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:32:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0C6KCrbiFRX75Gfgwh/4CIjIryGthAmcQh7SfsUnHQc=; b=EawIKk3axs17mdBgSHERokeqpPWsDUtciVix8Un1EgswZ3qtZSpulGmXsHFobFzRsf L+cBlRzIRbKuSnM/fwK8SOzhXo5Gn8Ci5F7gRBR4ysqiNlpNMUvhKJu+Skya45ALNHgx XL6oTSQRhVvkmdVEC//Ln5Qyd8lvGUZSs6aa0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MSNJ6jcBxrd6dnlG/xHsN1txm9vWOBP9Lm0mlkw0Ugn0pGs9n6Inl+4Jf7Nbhzed9/ hfN9oOB0YMMul+sdezrSaWPV47ofzM/G4vx4WVzLKdIQcRt26oWbUvptpKG7FaNSq8Lj OMmPrFRn/e8yQ08/2sIGVKTIbw+vD8g3GnKC0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 13:32:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Hardware Looper goes Loopy for Software From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:32:40 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Ty Gott wrote: > I held back on the software side for a couple of reasons. One is the ment= al > image of say the Kiss guy, Gene Simons, performing except it=92s a notebo= ok > instead of a guitar, doesn't seem like Rock and Roll. Some would argue that these guys might prove you wrong http://www.kraftwerk.com/ ;) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 20:36:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03ADC3BE75; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:36:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=z/HTBSYylo9TmZngEg8eK2umwlfSh6fIKVXDbmP6zdo=; b=KYOBYcwrjy6UYZfauAcvMVQ33+Rx5VZAN7BruqS2KO0QTuZzG0LrwD8/0N+hRQp1hc T8vXqVFd3o49mrTmN2RHH9b13AvV3KhyQAyTKr6u4fj8rgYl0JXVMmg53o+/NED6BeTh 41uXhUXO/eAimbm4zRRczymhrkkp+G3zalsus= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OQKonGIV9dPmyoI6o6AZn5rdPHb8Toqk1zh8WCyXz8PQOAPvArQP7OP/1cXZPFUmli jfz/NjtBr3jDZbg4D8vuLWQX+LQNki75sm/Hjw98yLkP/rT5i6KJkW7VqUyGv658WpHS Z2xCseHAU+1f7fGYuqrHJmtJXZ5NzO0zAz9Io= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <599703.43892.qm@web81001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <672375619.5913301246979978381.JavaMail.root@mail3.sitezoogle.com> <599703.43892.qm@web81001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 13:36:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Let's Talk Tuning!!!! Electronic, Acoustic, Challenges. From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:36:18 +0000 (UTC) Wow, interesting discussion, especially on a subject I know so little about. The Boss line of drum machines allow tuning of each sound, with a range plus or minus 2 octaves, in increments of 10 cents. However, I find that not all the sounds have the same base frequency. +100 for a whistle sound may be the same as -740 for a clave, for example. I also find that since they're not pure sine wave forms, I sometimes find it difficult to tell whether something's in tune or not - this is especially true when using distortion or filters. Certain sounds - especially hi-pitched ones, will have a different perceived frequency when you use distortion. Some sort of aliasing, I'd guess. When I perform with musicians using tuned instruments, I use an external pitch shifter to try to "slide" a note up to where it's in tune with what they're playing, then I usually keep it there. Pitch changers add some artifacts of their own, but for drum machine that's a good thing more often than not. I've heard a few recordings where "out of tuneness" is established as the norm, and it works for the song, with a disorienting feel. Many of the songs on the newest Portishead record are this way, as far as my cro-magnon ears can tell. Matt Davignon Tour! www.ribosomemusic.com margaret noble went: > Hello List, > > First, thanks for all your input on my noise posting. I must say the biggest > change was separating my power cables from the audio cables! > > Onto Tuning Now > > Background: I have always relied on happy accidents or not cared about > tuning. I like wild electronic music and world music with alternative > tunings and it never seemed to matter. Also, since I mix in random sounds > like toys or records, tuning is impossible to control. Recently, I have > decided that I want more expressive control over what I am saying. I am > trying to tune together an analogue drum machine which can't hold tune but > makes kick ass basslines, a psaltery and kalimba. I am seriously pulling out > my hair with this challenge. I want to pull it off but it t'ain't looking so > good! > > Questions (Clearly Subjective!) > > - Is there a tolerable amount of cents you can be off when trying to be in > key? > > - When mixing in non-traditional sounds together, how disturbing is it to > listeners if tunings are loose? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 21:11:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B03DD3BE78; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 441 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:11:30 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wN3sbOgGup/h/Q7cf95ca45wkpR5uW5F/VWZ1b29ztA=; b=Y01UjnTuKsxWz6uFgIFKf0nDhBs9jyYlRV9etNWJnfKZRFcCve45QjgvlKlQIRR2OW E2l82yVODBDHRzV/TtVFkGEPxWlxznJzbHw339cvkiHZjewG+Itf5OiSxGroqI9b9oHC ro2H43g8UYnsdgG9gtEj7tw1yKNugD8ci689M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=WJvHkc3F4sTDiCXV+5FEsb0aK4xZMYxsDrahn+caUo9KxIv44j3p+knCtz3hAM6ewS sENfmNo1hVgsxbh0WnDBjjCXkGX1k1O7ZlS4QP/ZYE5yiPhLR/3ZJN/U2digEmha3lW6 R9CN8lW1UjRb5mueJd8RLmKRl0mexowHkiny4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 23:04:08 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907071404pd045cc4m25fe133eeb9da892@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: for our planned festival - distribution channels regarding "call for performers", legal advice regarding ancillary copyright From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Dear group, regarding the concept of our Virtual Sound and Vision festival (http://www.myspace.com/vsvfestival), I have a few questions to ask: 1. distribution channels for a "call for performers" (and later, to market it to the audience): Where would you go? Right now, we have a myspace and facebook page, and are planning to hit this list in a few days, but which other groups (you may be a member of, and would volunteer to post the call), blogs etc. would make sense to find our target performers (and later: audience)? Basically, it's about acts with interesting combination of audio and video. 2. considerations regarding ancilllary copyright: Say, you're putting together a festival (be it a real or a virtual one). How do you deal with copyright/roaylties? I know that for live gigs in Germany, the presenter has to pay for them, but I don't know about internet video streams (and more specifically, if you only forward a stream created by someone else). How do you deal with that topic? Any media law experts here that could help me out with some kind of declaration I can have the acts sign? Thanks for all your help, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 21:24:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9450A3BE73; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:24:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1247001856; bh=I1/T0XCeK7eTptsgbCD54sAvBjHLz8x6LAp5g5B7WUU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ijD4by85/E26g2X7SBMLn4ee3z4gRJHAkD5uSMpa2g3mdrpYspX+j3mpuxrXMXjeYK1TfTFNAEuoYLmKdkGImG+kD16nEZHH/qsXWzy4NrR6xR4cJR2Y260ow876EkumuOLj3aZ0IBCz363vP5X36w3SJQTzy9vEicV4Nrk1Sac= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Ix6IZEUJt6SdBSEu4frNhaTP/gn/NxAOEH3bb8nehvsXfSjOOh2hwjeJFbcLKMvMzyidqHf8G6v74Q8KckEVshjjMwZUmUm9NO57SXlbSOfFPBLWXCLt8vq+5g0LZeVTaeY5EOHt7x8jM0l6BEm5gQC5ow7tqcgv3BiUJK8ojRI=; Message-ID: <416205.78113.qm@web24302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:24:16 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: Hardware Looper goes Loopy for Software To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4vJ2_.A.cOF.B07UKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:24:17 +0000 (UTC) great mail Ty! this is the type of posts that i want ot see more of,since i have also swit= ched the EDP for the Mobius software,right now i only use it as a stand alo= ne and still rather use my pedalboard for EFX,i havent tried bidule yet bec= ause i am a mac user and havent installed bootcamp yet but i will give it a= shot soon, i wish though somebody would make a brief youtube explanation v= ideo of all of this for those who are using hardware and want to do the tra= nsition! thanx and keep us posted Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Ty Gott schrieb am Mo, 6.7.2009: > Von: Ty Gott > Betreff: Hardware Looper goes Loopy for Software > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Montag, 6. Juli 2009, 22:13 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > I=E2=80=99ve just put together a new > software based live > looping rig and thought telling the story here might help > some and start an > engaging discussion with others.=C2=A0 =20 >=20 > I held back on the software side for a > couple of reasons. > One is the mental image of say the Kiss guy, Gene Simons, > performing except > it=E2=80=99s a notebook instead of a guitar, doesn't seem > like Rock and Roll. > Folks that was Eric Clapton on guitar and on PC its > ...=C2=A0 Second I have > done lots of software recording and I end up sitting in > front of the PC the > whole time and not playing guitar. I needed a new notebook > for travel and > figured it could host a looping rig as well. I really need > a netbook for travel > and I figured I could squeeze a setup onto a new 10=E2=80=9D > notebook and if not > I still had all my gear. =20 >=20 > I=E2=80=99m a long time hardware looper > been at it for over a > decade. I only play guitar and have 4 of Roland=E2=80=99s GK > boxes but my sound > is now focused on the 2 VG units I=E2=80=99ve got a vg8 and a > vg99. I was using > guitar to MIDI for everything but now I only use it to play > the drums. To loop > I use one guitar to control one or more of the units at a > time. I play in a > bass lines, drums, and rhythms by switching on and off my > units and then > overdubbing=C2=A0 loops.=C2=A0 I was using a Boomerang, > an=C2=A0 Echoplex and > A/B switches for this.=C2=A0 =20 >=20 > Hardware:=20 >=20 > I got a real deal on a Toshiba nb205 > 1.66ghz 1gb RAM and a > 150gb HD and 3 USB2 ports. =20 >=20 > mAudio Fast Track Ultra USB with 6 ins > and 8 outs. =20 >=20 > Behringer=C2=A0 FCB1010 to control the > software from a stomp > box hands free (must have the free software editor)=20 >=20 > Software:=20 >=20 > Mobius =E2=80=93 My new looper > it=E2=80=99s a simulation of 8 > stereo Echoplex units which all can be in sync. The > interface was very familiar > to me as I have an Echoplex and now I have eight on a free > download. =20 >=20 > Bidule- A virtual wiring rack under > MIDI control from the fcb1010 > stomp box. I have to be able to route my instruments to the > right tracks, > record to the right tracks and mute the boxes I=E2=80=99m not > using. Moduis is > hosted and wired into Bidule.=20 >=20 > Jamstix - A virtual drummer and > virtual sound source from my > drums. Also wired into BIdule.=20 >=20 > My whole rig: VG99, VG8, FCB1010, > FV500L, US-20 and the > netbook with mAudio USB=20 >=20 > Old Rig: VG99, VG8, SR16, FC300, > US-20, DD6, 2 double 1 > single 1 triple AB switches, 4 channel mixer Boomerang, and > the Echoplex=20 >=20 > I'm floored by what I've built > so far. I added 6 tracks of > looping and stereo for everything. I should have done this > a long time ago. I > can now not only layer my sounds and loop them up but go > back and rework or > replace them by track or just adjust the volume. I can > sound parts that > aren=E2=80=99t looped. I can rewire my rig on the fly and > return to old wirings > saved to disk with Bidule. =20 >=20 > The netbook is a tight squeeze > everything has to be turned > off on it except the sound stuff. I=E2=80=99m running into > the high 60 dsp in > Bidule and about 50% on the CPU when drumming and looping. > The available screen > is tight as well. Not much room for all the indicators I > need to see to operate > it all. I do need to see it but not touch it during a > song.=20 >=20 > I was/am very disappointed in the > Roland fc300. I=E2=80=99ve > been using it for the vg99. For that it=E2=80=99s just OK but > you gotta have a > foot controller for a unit like the 99. It just > wasn=E2=80=99t setup to offer > enough buttons to do the looping right and its dual switch > buttons are a pain > if the lights don=E2=80=99t match up. I hooked up a single > expression pedal and > now use the fcb1010 banks for looping and switching, and > others for selecting > patches on the two VGs. =20 >=20 > I=E2=80=99m still working on getting > everything setup right > but I=E2=80=99ve got it all working and am looking forward to > playing =E2=80=A6 now=20 >=20 > Cheers,=20 >=20 > -Ty=20 >=20 > www.soundclick.com\TygermanGrooveBand >=20 >=20 > =C2=A0=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 21:25:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 935243BE7C; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1247001944; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=AIFmCOWeQjgp8ipB5nqh4iyDWbg=; b=DmQkRBk7owEKw4JhdPTZtHimyo4m0NQYei7+FfcZ2rkgkQzbVmi18Hdfie2+GqLi iYpj/uohUj4J3birUHWA+Hrpa3lTrqdGHXCOGpEWVOc+RUYqO+GT0gFYTqv5Vox0; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cbjxZmwKLZwA:10 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=JAuhnfzBWG0A:10 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=mzP_mZj3J0G2zC171wEA:9 a=9tDWHcP_ejASR1sw1e8A:7 a=Oey63ylVVDgBSjWVoZ8KbuVzQXYA:4 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:25:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Embarq Customer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <2131800155.813371247001944348.JavaMail.root@md18.embarq.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907071404pd045cc4m25fe133eeb9da892@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: for our planned festival - distribution channels regarding "call for performers", legal advice regarding ancillary copyright MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [70.10.225.57] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.11_GA_2696.RHEL4 (zclient/5.0.11_GA_2696.RHEL4) Resent-Message-ID: <3q_iv.A.7TF.c17UKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Couldn't we have some kind of Creative Commons license? Like Ninjam perfomances. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: OT: for our planned festival - distribution channels regarding "call for performers", legal advice regarding ancillary copyright Dear group, regarding the concept of our Virtual Sound and Vision festival (http://www.myspace.com/vsvfestival), I have a few questions to ask: 1. distribution channels for a "call for performers" (and later, to market it to the audience): Where would you go? Right now, we have a myspace and facebook page, and are planning to hit this list in a few days, but which other groups (you may be a member of, and would volunteer to post the call), blogs etc. would make sense to find our target performers (and later: audience)? Basically, it's about acts with interesting combination of audio and video. 2. considerations regarding ancilllary copyright: Say, you're putting together a festival (be it a real or a virtual one). How do you deal with copyright/roaylties? I know that for live gigs in Germany, the presenter has to pay for them, but I don't know about internet video streams (and more specifically, if you only forward a stream created by someone else). How do you deal with that topic? Any media law experts here that could help me out with some kind of declaration I can have the acts sign? Thanks for all your help, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 21:40:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4465B3BE7F; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hZ1GSGhi85Hm8TvhACvZM8n1uXtNFSy+GSGAmVGs980=; b=h2+2iRRe4UhiFZbwD0W5zN9CDcIUyE0YtXFD/w4w7AKeA86N4O8hKze8H8hZibYtPp fx2L7L7wNNJ1vwe5+9pD6/RwO97MA1+iqRW7mIOEV8YvGL9WFj1XEzeMRf52jQTp80dm r0Q16sz4TAuV2YP4OtBTqgDfywsK9ipkWHPL4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NReR3YIUKL4XetjiDectrAt1CvzEDcETcU8+B4fk39aN7gLwx/lfOkLaoncrnh8HFu UbFeUcr95pZ0vt81VbjXh+3SUQTD/hHVS+zilTs2OMMTucmE7gXrCN/AYWlMPKECgHnc jNBNvLkrLQLfoW4mV8MlZDZ0IkqmadjBvm63Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <416205.78113.qm@web24302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <416205.78113.qm@web24302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 23:39:59 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907071439y63c1e78bre88ee37c3342a000@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Hardware Looper goes Loopy for Software From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:40:00 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:24 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > i havent tried bidule yet because i am a mac user Bidule is exactly the same under OS X. No need for windows... except if you are a pc. :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 22:17:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E851D3BE78; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:17:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1247005050; bh=Q9y/7puhe2WC0tjaFg10pXSrbd0WdMaWkzjXuYe8nfY=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=GbI+xKFaXN0VU7wbNDPKItSk8vz43R+WshLD1c1h443u7ajZ4MOEknQbiXppSVAjT y+//EsGc6tZGLw2Y8jS7vh0NNkPZRD3/Du8RUHALG7cEdmQ4If1QaRotVgvYnR20Fp afYbW0BOoBl9eg4C1DjQuRoK12E4cMol37KLZw+s= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Hardware Looper goes Loopy for Software Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 00:17:16 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c9ff50$b03b9090$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acn/S3u3JgtekS/mRVCcdzozBnrKeAABOeeA In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907071439y63c1e78bre88ee37c3342a000@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:17:31 +0000 (UTC) > Per wrote: > Bidule is exactly the same under OS X. No need for windows...=20 > except if you are a pc. :-) Luis, You only need windows if it's cold or raining :) I'm using Bidule on = OSX, it runs fine Btw: the DVD is almost ready, stay tuned!=20 Sjaak From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 22:52:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AFBB3BE7C; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:52:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GCDPXXgFDacB25aJ4k2EBKQwX9DyA6wEzmjw5fk5/Zw=; b=JxRYUWSlZXzptuFe7UO/KShraBn/C+Fywd+YDBhT24uKYLrlcMvR9xQQa7EQQO1bsA DU3Z/57SF6hWmtS6zXWrh7hFV1tE9/LbD1sKFeuvlPZGo/FyV0Wq+73iOmSTe/yQK/cM 3oggLd8539apehocw4VwRtgDi7Wr18jIyHAKo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=XNfMBk62pE83UM4GIAK8/p9QN6O/tJTishpNU3mnnLn+qteZp2vI1W8W2uClrq05my D9OVqaz2J3c+dXeNN3k1dFTRlaZdvCuZbSEzKbOsNK6NMVS38b8UnOCsgGd0Q1kVTx9h KhOT8hez0PopQPv2UsobiHX+JaR6Iy9Gn80rk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 00:52:11 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907071552m66eb533dj420839f12ff35102@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: for our planned festival - distribution channels regarding "call for performers", legal advice regarding ancillary copyright From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:52:12 +0000 (UTC) Jeff said: > Couldn't we have some kind of Creative Commons license? Like Ninjam perfomances. The short answer is "no". The slightly longer one: even the most restrictive cc license (by-nc-nd) will allow third parties to freely distribute the work in question. This may be a problem in some cases with people bound to a performing rights organization by which they pass the handling of rights to that organization exclusively and for the duration of the contract, but internet streams may be exempt from that regulation (some of the German GEMA contracts are of that kind). In such a case, an artist would very well be able to grant us the right to stream his material via the internet, but would not allow him to publish it under a cc license. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 22:55:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30F413BE78; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=n5+v71oqA30YcVqCze7lGkqDtE4kiirfgqeLNpeVDuM=; b=hINb3UT9AB+/684xm0NM8OrBiioLY8f8Ji0/MzwVQpiR1e4YUccOv8uMKJDejaU1zh C/goiIKlAxyPzgS0i0ERyyxCZeIGRQEPbEYhmLthpN8kpG26e7KGObu5hpbuLwqL9I2k jIDuMVADXUZMV8KNg3dTK0/nZFNmps062021U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MoN6Y/EKFUkE6fwSeFPwFZyHRpkCliJkfraEivFi1mXvNUyUi/q/38jzXJv3y7/Hz+ lmB/E+otD5rsE9ukLDD3yq6aUfmorLBt9rOX2fHWpJe+XWjtzmMWA39cMIxoLGDmc6S7 gDKQ1PwpgZKacJ0spXkeGzpKwlqhS/e0lLVdo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <416205.78113.qm@web24302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <416205.78113.qm@web24302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 15:55:52 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Hardware Looper goes Loopy for Software From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:55:57 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:24 PM, L.Angulo wrote: >i wish though somebody would make a brief youtube explanation video of all of this for those who are using hardware and want to do the >transition! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbYirSi08m4 "Unfortunately, one can be told what The Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself." I spent a lot of time reading though Per's posts and trolling the internet for clues, but really in the end I had to just dive in. You'll cry. That's natural...but then comes the healing. (and then some looping!) Some rules of thumb... No one can show you what to do because you're setup and technique are probably unique. Your computer/software setup will likely not be like mine at all. Join or lurk on kvraudio.com. There are people there who are wise beyond your imagination... ok, not really but very smart. Buy as much computer as you can afford. You'll find it's max no matter what it is, but it doesn't hurt to aim high. Laptop only if you're really going to gig with it. One with a dedicated video card is best. Firewire is better than USB2, but there's a good chance if you don't have a Texas Instruments or Lucent chipset it won't work at all. You'll be tempted to keep a lot of your hardware but it just ultimately gets in the way most of the time. XP is better than Vista, but both will work fine and need to be wrangled and tamed. (see post about the sweetwater faq) Be careful of 64 bit operating systems that aren't OSX. Your software will run but you may not be able to find 64 bit drivers for your hardware. I don't know Bidule, but with Live you can make a system that's 100% mouse free. Two monitors are best. Imagine having to look at all your gear though a 20x13 frame. Put aside a little money for Kleenex, but keep in mind that when it comes together you'll wonder how you ever did it any other way. M From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 7 23:06:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B4623BE85; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 23:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1247008009; bh=LQpqs8/FBuuKy6aPzvDhzsAgx7dAjhAYJ3mQbX5SCSY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HC++Fd7+Jkd+klnyAhEerNDA+JtfcMT7iV40h+oC02c9/YrzEpzppW+hTvnQ9XSCOupU3BOsmRinCwPUGPgJfYsLR3CqojkL7VYEigT80OdV0QDSJ/YSaEkg/4GiYYggC+kYEWKoQfMDjaR2OS1UMbReYHfQpjzwOmuTojmyp/s= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=l++0N1MbBXd9oekG8ZGPWzcjWZ/7wAkl3wPry78OKzrRFDzriqOwouMU0Q8xkFml26KAOhBJ/FUw5CI43Di//GpZCzAbm4ccC0YxWmeAk+o6cGGcefvH4TzemhXV6FQFKuUDIGX+Api7Z1WPM8VTG6z9/h+zdKkqyyTcvKGM6dU=; Message-ID: <37679.16759.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 23:06:48 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: RE: Hardware Looper goes Loopy for Software To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5ScmV.A.8y.KU9UKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 23:06:50 +0000 (UTC) oh great news Sjaak! no mainstage anymore? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Sjaak schrieb am Di, 7.7.2009: > Von: Sjaak > Betreff: RE: Hardware Looper goes Loopy for Software > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Dienstag, 7. Juli 2009, 15:17 > > Per wrote: > > Bidule is exactly the same under OS X. No need for > windows...=20 > > except if you are a pc. :-) >=20 > Luis, > You only need windows if it's cold or raining :) I'm using > Bidule on OSX, it > runs fine >=20 > Btw: the DVD is almost ready, stay tuned!=20 >=20 > Sjaak >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 00:29:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB3703BE7E; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 00:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:29:12 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 00:29:19 +0000 (UTC) In another thread, Matt Davignon wrote: "On the other hand, many of the acts I've seen left me feeling like the performers are locked into a scripted grid, with fewer opportunities to take the material in a direction other than a previously-drawn, forward-pointing arrow from start to finish." Honestly, I have had the same reaction. Granted, there are artists who pull it off with panache and a sense of spontaneity's (I think , specifically, of Zoe Keating, Imogen Heap, Juana Molina and Kid Beyond) but in general, pre-rehearsed and already thought out pieces of music using live looping feel as sterile to me as people push playing on DATs, I-pods, CDs, DVDS or computers. I actually really and truly loved sculptured recordings but to me, the live sphere is a different thing. And maybe this is just because I lack the discipline to go to all the work of pre arranging pieces of music when I play, but the last ten years or so of my life have been all improvisational. Of course, one (and specifically, me) run the risk of not having a cogent enough performance or , worst yet in live looping, taking too long to create a piece of music and letting it go on for longer than it is musically interesting for the audience. It's a constant worry for me and I frequently blow it live. I've noticed that a lot of loopers in our community seem to fail to realize that the what feels good to play; what seems like a certain length of time in developing a piece of music is completely different for the audience. Personally, just because I teach a lot of live looping in my hometown, I tell newbies to set up a clock and to force themselves to start, develop and cogentally end a piece of music every five minutes so that they have six pieces of music in a festival set of thirty minutes. It's a tough discipline to do that. I purposefully write set lists with 6 to 7 tableaus in it. I don't know what I'm going to play, but I do take 6 or 8 'sets' of instruments to each gig so that I can keep a found sound performance intriguing. I've discovered is someone has the discipline to play 6 five minute songs in order five times a week that after a month, they are ready to perform a pretty interesting set as a newbie at the festival. ****** Also, and pardon this rambling post, but I"m in a 'waxing philosophic' mode today: I'm writing some new material that is more song oriented and even (damn this is scary to admit in public) singer/songwriter oriented, so I know that I need to figure out a way that I can compromise my desire for spontaneity and improvisation with composed (if not arranged) material. It's a really challenging thing for me. Frankly, it really scares me because it's so different from the freedom I've had for ten years, but I also am really hearing some new things with my new foray into stringed instruments. SOOOOO, pros and cons..................what do y'all like and/or dislike about pre arranged live looping shows and what do you like or dislike about pure improvisational shows. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 00:50:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2C793BE77; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 00:50:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=gDvBL/ugdQe8wdXSfcZ2NbxWE6Hk9Rwc7GH9ky950ZugzXaKiR5D2s53lYSjE/CN; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <27425110.1247014229008.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:50:28 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48ff516c88e00d307315de8b471f4d76a7667c3043c0873f7e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.29 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 00:50:29 +0000 (UTC) >SOOOOO, pros and cons..................what do y'all like and/or >dislike about pre arranged live looping shows >and what do you like or dislike about pure improvisational shows. tough call-i feel very priviledged @ every loopfest for the w i d e variety of acts-and if some one's show grabs me-i go for it-never letting myself think-improv or pre-set? if its good/interesting-not necessarily both-i'm there. s (spoonman for instance-had no idea what he was doing-but it sure was cool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 01:26:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BEFC3BE77; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 01:26:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=A5iMpcpY/oKY3KQ+GTVlnsu59jDC+ZroCzalB7EQz30=; b=xDKwezIcr3m4tQasAUVxG8IH5k5WcIME/Kr7lxDAFFxdgbY9IObn7m4NYGXODi1g0V WtSxU35KsHGMqZgm+505AlSDsct3PvM2Mv7ObhOtKgWWY24jYqAfkmIukYrOkKPLG6Yq 5in8UB9zfmvZS98vEuaEs01gi812Pp+SQKXYg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Wy3tS5pSPl3LZ1Vuvv2tldrEUohXfG0kiVxqTNp9XM8KsS298BQK6DRghAadU45OO6 Pou6Q4Cq4/bLS0boknZdyI6556HpbCa4Xr4SAohGSDXHJ9Rf0/XFNL/vrWVED28Tc8O1 u5OuyCPiZPcCemvjFwAPigIp+SwLmN6EbIDwI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <27425110.1247014229008.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 03:26:55 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances From: Raul Bonell To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 01:26:56 +0000 (UTC) good strategy: rehearse looping sets with a short time gap. keep the lessons coming, master! in regard to your new more-song-oriented-stuff--> GO FOR IT!! it's the road, not the music.. it's the sounds, not you! 2009/7/8, stanitarium@earthlink.net : >>SOOOOO, pros and cons..................what do y'all like and/or >>dislike about pre arranged live looping shows >>and what do you like or dislike about pure improvisational shows. > > > > > tough call-i feel very priviledged @ every loopfest for the w i d e variety > of acts-and if some one's show grabs me-i go for it-never letting myself > think-improv or pre-set? if its good/interesting-not necessarily both-i'm > there. > s > (spoonman for instance-had no idea what he was doing-but it sure was cool) > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 01:50:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DC193BE73; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 01:50:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 18:50:21 -0700 References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 01:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Interesting. I keep thinking I should go in with more material "prepared". I usually have at least some ideas to explore, but I've had times where I then can't get the loop going the way I wanted and I get frustrated restarting a few times. Then there's Y2K8 where I was just totally beat by the time I went on and I should probably be glad I managed to do anything coherent. I think I got one good piece out of three, but I need to go back and listen again. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 02:27:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0EB33BE77; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 02:26:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:26:53 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <-P_ojD.A.4BH.zPAVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 02:26:59 +0000 (UTC) Hmmmm, Without a doubt, my best experiences as a player/performer (looping or non) have always been in the entirely unprepared and unpremeditated category. But that hasn't stopped me from trying (upon occasion) to challenge myself to do a set piece - to play an actual "composition" if you will. But these occasions seldom work out very satisfactorily in front of an audience for some reason. I am almost always left with the feeling of wishing I hadn't even gone there. I think the stress of "trying to get it exactly right" and the fear of looking foolish combine to sabotage me almost every time I attempt to do a set piece. But I think I keep trying because I feel like it's something I should be able to do (for some reason). I guess its an area of difficulty I want to conquer and master. Kenny Werner's book "Effortless Mastery" addresses a lot of this. The key (for me) seems to be to play as if I don't care if I sound good or bad - to just play with a will, a conviction and an authority based on the gift of music itself . . . to play like a child. Personally, that's rather hard to do, I am obsessively self-critical and neurotically insecure under the best of circumstances. But I keep working on that too. As far as using "live" or canned loops go . . . it's a non-issue. I have done premeditated totally "live-looping" pieces . . . and whole sets. And I have also done gigs with mixture of canned loops and live loops that were entirely the sort of unpremeditated, child-at-play improvisation mentioned above. Gee, what's in the box? What will this button do? It's all in the mind . . . not the machinery. Best, Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 03:04:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A25D3BE7C; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 03:04:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HcFLGDOGPPjKepYWaX6Q8WydLY66iDnOfUz9/x/rTTo=; b=bY0FQFISLSjhjvF8/NEqGsJioSSR3bjC4qO6iHI2mPC9qGce8LvBJl+1R57wigyVhJ YMdrVgkRFm4TU7jNOjZhmGShLpviuwFZggodWUbwhGLqmMPJfwqBCXDwQ9dlJVa756VZ xIg5Xyh2gWTcORuNXzkcnO2tBkd7xblFMBQoU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jtDJm8bpQItwB2ReBzgSMIF8PmOWylNsmYtXgBtrFwgazctdAHEp28+97eJVD5cdnR n2RZSA8DwNY1QWjPz4v5emsD4ZykvxxSotJJ58+fYIReAf06m+jgp/kC+Xk4/FZHulan K3/WzGsKsWuJvnRLVjjQhSDFV1uyDkD+GMo/M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907071552m66eb533dj420839f12ff35102@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907071552m66eb533dj420839f12ff35102@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:59:18 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: for our planned festival - distribution channels regarding "call for performers", legal advice regarding ancillary copyright From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016360e3caadd1e0d046e28ec1a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 03:04:46 +0000 (UTC) --0016360e3caadd1e0d046e28ec1a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rainer, That isn't quite right ... the BY-NC-ND does allow the re-distribution ... but permission must STILL be granted for use beyond the license and copyright is STILL retained. That's the whole point of that type of license ... the 3rd part MUST have permission to use the material beyond simply being able to share it. And that sharing MUST be linked back to you, or they have violated the license and would be subject to recourse. We could still use a CC license for the performance of work not previously covered by a contract (unless you have an agreement with a rights organization to whom you have signed over the COPYRIGHT of all your performances past and future, which even in this day and age people are still signing!). No, I'm not a lawyer, but I dohave to deal with this in my day job ... Dennis On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Jeff said: > > Couldn't we have some kind of Creative Commons license? Like Ninjam > perfomances. > > The short answer is "no". > > The slightly longer one: even the most restrictive cc license > (by-nc-nd) will allow third parties to freely distribute the work in > question. This may be a problem in some cases with people bound to a > performing rights organization by which they pass the handling of > rights to that organization exclusively and for the duration of the > contract, but internet streams may be exempt from that regulation > (some of the German GEMA contracts are of that kind). > In such a case, an artist would very well be able to grant us the > right to stream his material via the internet, but would not allow him > to publish it under a cc license. > > Rainer > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --0016360e3caadd1e0d046e28ec1a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rainer,

That isn't quite right ... the BY-NC-ND does allow the r= e-distribution ... but permission must STILL be granted for use beyond the = license and copyright is STILL retained. That's the whole point of that= type of license ... the 3rd part MUST have permission to use the material = beyond simply being able to share it. And that sharing MUST be linked back = to you, or they have violated the license and would be subject to recourse.=

We could still use a CC license for the performance of work not previou= sly covered by a contract (unless you have an agreement with a rights organ= ization to whom you have signed over the COPYRIGHT of all your performances= past and future, which even in this day and age people are still signing!)= .

No, I'm not a lawyer, but I dohave to deal with this in my day job = ...

Dennis



On Tue, Jul 7, = 2009 at 4:52 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Jeff said:
> Couldn't we have some kind of Creative Commons license? Like Ninja= m perfomances.

The short answer is "no".

The slightly longer one: even the most restrictive cc license
(by-nc-nd) will allow third parties to freely distribute the work in
question. This may be a problem in some cases with people bound to a
performing rights organization by which they pass the handling of
rights to that organization exclusively and for the duration of the
contract, but internet streams may be exempt from that regulation
(some of the German GEMA contracts are of that kind).
In such a case, an artist would very well be able to grant us the
right to stream his material via the internet, but would not allow him
to publish it under a cc license.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer




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--0016360e3caadd1e0d046e28ec1a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 03:07:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B2D73BE80; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 03:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Pw/F+LWLSOCn466X8WP8gjaJwYQpGDriAvb4UMhW3+g=; b=U4JI1haDt7YBJTTUUqejM8XWrYgxx8V4Hst89fnIeZyfxsLk9teSfQTiA2p1k2I2Tm Y5jdAbTbGRczhMTD1xa65vNeHpr2QxUpfRsSUwBBMkU83u7E1vQPjNJP4Fxn+O0/nMia ZXctMWBucZt0yjbqxmsleaXKqUPH9jc0ykOL8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HsnpDQsKpHMC19tbKlhaqIuUQcPzFdgYhjL0sr8y4esHLvvhgpLSL1poYRAuyYqQf6 BYehtqMz1RKLEOgIhP1yjjbxhtYCzl5/JzRyf3drASQ/elbpX/1AlvoD6sSD4+CPVM5Y rF8JUazvonvJbpKdPzxkZ9sWxTIWlNrM2inWo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:07:31 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ee4a8434897046e290ac6 Resent-Message-ID: <1Zq0O.A.1r.11AVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 03:07:33 +0000 (UTC) --0016364ee4a8434897046e290ac6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Those of you in the Los Angeles area will have an opportunity to come hear one of my approaches ... I'm going to be doing improvised looping against a field recording I recently made in Zadar, Croatia. It's about 16:20 in length and while I have listened to it several times (I did add a 5 second fade in and fade out, otherwise untouched), I have not tried playing "against" it. Details: The Bandit Gallery, Echo Park.Saturday 1 August. Doors open at 6:30. Hope some of you can be there and we can talk about it! (There will be a Q&A session!) Best, Dennis On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > In another thread, Matt Davignon wrote: > "On the other hand, many of the acts I've seen left me feeling like the > performers are locked > into a scripted grid, with fewer opportunities to take the material in a > direction other than a > previously-drawn, forward-pointing arrow from start to finish." > > > Honestly, I have had the same reaction. Granted, there are artists who > pull it off > with panache and a sense of spontaneity's (I think , specifically, of Zoe > Keating, Imogen Heap, Juana Molina and > Kid Beyond) but in general, pre-rehearsed and already thought out pieces > of music > using live looping feel as sterile to me as people push playing on DATs, > I-pods, CDs, DVDS > or computers. > > I actually really and truly loved sculptured recordings but to me, the live > sphere is a different thing. > > And maybe this is just because I lack the discipline to go to all the work > of pre arranging > pieces of music when I play, but the last ten years or so of my life have > been all improvisational. > > Of course, one (and specifically, me) run the risk of not having a cogent > enough performance > or , worst yet in live looping, taking too long to create a piece of > music and letting it go > on for longer than it is musically interesting for the audience. It's a > constant worry for me and > I frequently blow it live. > > I've noticed that a lot of loopers in our community seem to fail to realize > that the what feels good > to play; what seems like a certain length of time in developing a piece > of music is completely > different for the audience. > > Personally, just because I teach a lot of live looping in my hometown, I > tell newbies to set > up a clock and to force themselves to start, develop and cogentally end a > piece of music > every five minutes so that they have six pieces of music in a festival set > of thirty minutes. > > It's a tough discipline to do that. I purposefully write set lists with 6 > to 7 tableaus in it. > I don't know what I'm going to play, but I do take 6 or 8 'sets' of > instruments to each gig > so that I can keep a found sound performance intriguing. > > I've discovered is someone has the discipline to play 6 five minute songs > in order five times a week > that after a month, they are ready to perform a pretty interesting set as a > newbie at the festival. > > ****** > Also, and pardon this rambling post, but I"m in a 'waxing philosophic' mode > today: > > I'm writing some new material that is more song oriented and even (damn > this is scary to admit in public) > singer/songwriter oriented, so I know that I need to figure out a way that > I can compromise my > desire for spontaneity and improvisation with composed (if not arranged) > material. > > It's a really challenging thing for me. Frankly, it really scares me > because it's so different from the freedom > I've had for ten years, but I also am really hearing some new things with > my new foray into stringed > instruments. > > > SOOOOO, pros and cons..................what do y'all like and/or > dislike about pre arranged live looping shows > and what do you like or dislike about pure improvisational shows. > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --0016364ee4a8434897046e290ac6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Those of you in the Los Angeles area will have an opportunity to come hear = one of my approaches ... I'm going to be doing improvised looping again= st a field recording I recently made in Zadar, Croatia. It's about 16:2= 0 in length and while I have listened to it several times (I did add a 5 se= cond fade in and fade out, otherwise untouched), I have not tried playing &= quot;against" it.

Details: The Bandit Gallery, Echo Park.Saturday 1 August. Doors open at= 6:30.

Hope some of you can be there and we can talk about it! (Ther= e will be a Q&A session!)

Best,

Dennis

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
In another thread, Matt Davignon wrote:
"On the other hand, many of the acts I've seen left me feeling lik= e the performers are locked
into a scripted grid, with fewer opportunities to take the material in a di= rection other than a
previously-drawn, forward-pointing arrow from start to finish."


Honestly, =A0I have had the same reaction. =A0 =A0Granted, =A0there are art= ists who pull it off
with panache and a sense of spontaneity's (I think , specifically, =A0o= f Zoe Keating, Imogen Heap, Juana Molina and
Kid Beyond) =A0but in general, =A0pre-rehearsed and already thought out pie= ces of music
using live looping feel as sterile to me as people push playing on DATs, I-= pods, CDs, DVDS
or computers.

I actually really and truly loved sculptured recordings but to me, the live= sphere is a different thing.

And maybe this is just because I lack the discipline to go to all the work = of pre arranging
pieces of music when I play, but the last ten years or so of my life have b= een all improvisational.

Of course, =A0one (and specifically, me) =A0run the risk of not having a co= gent enough performance
or , =A0worst yet in live looping, =A0taking too long to create a piece of = music and letting it go
on for longer than it is musically interesting for the audience. =A0It'= s a constant worry for me and
I frequently blow it live.

I've noticed that a lot of loopers in our community seem to fail to rea= lize that the what feels good
to play; =A0 what seems like a certain length of time in developing a piece= of music is completely
different for the audience.

Personally, just because I teach a lot of live looping in my hometown, =A0 = I tell newbies to set
up a clock and to force themselves to start, develop and cogentally end a p= iece of music
every five minutes so that they have six pieces of music in a festival set = of thirty minutes.

It's a tough discipline to do that. =A0 I purposefully write set lists = with 6 to 7 tableaus in it.
I don't know what I'm going to play, but I do take 6 or 8 'sets= ' of instruments to each gig
so that I can keep a found sound performance intriguing.

I've discovered is someone has the discipline to play 6 five minute son= gs in order five times a week
that after a month, they are ready to perform a pretty interesting set as a= newbie at the festival.

******
Also, and pardon this rambling post, but I"m in a 'waxing philosop= hic' mode today:

I'm writing some new material that is more song oriented and even (damn= this is scary to admit in public)
singer/songwriter oriented, =A0so I know that I need to figure out a way th= at I can compromise my
desire for spontaneity and improvisation with composed (if not arranged) = =A0material.

It's a really challenging thing for me. =A0Frankly, =A0it really scares= me because it's so different from the freedom
I've had for ten years, =A0but I also am really hearing some new things= with my new foray into stringed
instruments.


SOOOOO, =A0 =A0 pros and cons..................what do y'all like and/o= r dislike about pre arranged live looping shows
and what do you like or dislike about pure improvisational shows.




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--0016364ee4a8434897046e290ac6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 03:12:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 710B53BE75; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 03:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vhkEmJkl0u8eSjUVNIyAIKIPz9vzjcaKfBP5s51wvVg=; b=shv5NlvqY7RUjh2iRVvfrxddorNzJdNgJOGm0jW4Dx+OlgrghcyzWvikZA4SQ/NPtO UNdL3IgsbX0ix/frq19QtcOglbMyzYOh/NOAw/Eah5YJQtBCnZEl+BdaoPWwZ64q63Jr T6+qWfOafHiwHlySMelAo7x8bzTS7ACmN/TNA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=k7f377nAChFWK+14lvMgssbs2DVF73tG9ejuyudLluDgnzT8MVGr8OFWYPIkY3s8kb ts7KAD8ohhbi0je4V8KCX9KL+UT/aVpGQZPyWZgBADLdkQyt5T3OxcujLsOzB2Wc9B6N +vPgOxqhGfgIhXV0LgLOgfHwAQnJytbqBpEHs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 23:12:39 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907072012t35274eb0kd1fd9d774c4704d7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a5049be3bb046e291c83 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 03:12:41 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a5049be3bb046e291c83 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As someone who did prepared to a large degree for years in the last 3 I've completely gone the other way of nothing more than shooting from the hip which has been totally freeing, inspiring and confidence building. I've come full circle really in the last 25 plus years of development, going through periods of low confidence, performance anxiety and in the last 15, accomplishment. Much of that initial period came out of having someone just inspire me to the point that the response was I had to do this. I kind of went through that praise period in the mid 90's until I think I began to inch towards the 'free' period but it wasn't until Daryl and I met and began developing Chinapainting that I really came to understanding 'free' playing and not to go on but it really has been an awakening, both in my work with him as well as my own solo work. There's been something and please I don't mean to be showing ego here and fear I may be but in short hitting the stage or virtual stage and and letting come what may has just been the best. Sure there are times of a bit of anxiety but what it has taught me is to go with trust that the muse will lead. --001636c5a5049be3bb046e291c83 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As someone who did prepared to a large degree for years in the last 3 I'= ;ve completely gone the other way of nothing more than shooting from the hi= p which has been totally freeing, inspiring and confidence building. =A0I&#= 39;ve come full circle really in the last 25 plus years of development, goi= ng through periods of low confidence, performance anxiety and in the last 1= 5, accomplishment. =A0Much of that initial period came out of having someon= e just inspire me to the point that the response was I had to do this. =A0I= kind of went through that praise period in the mid 90's until I think = I began to inch towards the 'free' period but it wasn't until D= aryl and I met and began developing Chinapainting that I really came to und= erstanding 'free' playing and not to go on but it really has been a= n awakening, both in my work with him as well as my own solo work. =A0There= 's been something and please I don't mean to be showing ego here an= d fear I may be but in short hitting the stage or virtual stage and and let= ting come what may has just been the best. =A0Sure =A0there are times of a = bit of anxiety but what it has taught me is to go with trust that the muse = will lead.

--001636c5a5049be3bb046e291c83-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 03:25:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E79FB3BE79; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 03:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:25:04 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=ILLCjRW91HU/CgnSpwszC2iccVLqAG+QfR/SUJolg3iIUuIDfJtWnL5a5PLd4/b6Zdof+AEJEgKTYcscLGc8NdMZHFfYExC4awm40bH7NSMbVnnDqqcXdvknqqgnN3Ol; Message-ID: <20090707221823.dxlq3x8xa8844og4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:18:23 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: <5kPMv.A.DSB.QGBVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 03:25:04 +0000 (UTC) When working with my Aries synth, I'm quite comfortable with =20 improvised content. However since the theremin is a gestural-controlled instrument, one =20 has difficulty to play in tune while manipulating foot pedals or other =20 controls. I have felt that my most effective looped-theremin works have been the =20 composed works. Since I play from memory, the listeners don't often =20 realize that the entire set is written-out. I use vst control to control the loops' parameters -- once I begin a =20 composition I must maintain a constant tempo so that the loop =20 paramenters change at the correct time. One of the advantages to composing is the ability to tighten-up =20 sections that are overly-repetitive and the ability to move from one =20 section to another quickly. I can work out complex modulations and =20 harmonies that may be impractical to do in an improvised context. My =20 vst automation gets very busy at times -- to do the same thing live =20 would require quite a few pairs of hands and feet all working in sync. If a composition is challenging enough to play and tends to move, =20 inspire, and/or engage the listeners, then I never feel burnt out =20 about playing it. *** begin rant For example, I no longer book weddings because I'm sick of playing =20 cliched music that no one cares about -- I feel as if I am killing =20 brain cells by playing ditties such as the Pachelbel Canon. (It is =20 really better in the original Klingon, however I digress...) Thus, I =20 am quite sensitive the the notion that dull, uninteresting music is no =20 fun to play or to listen to whether it is composed or improvised. *** end rant The challenge, then, with composed music is to keep it interesting and =20 fresh. This is as true when playing classical music as it is playing =20 looped music or anything else. With great compositions one can return =20 to them and find new aspects, etc. When I go into a situation where I must improvise, I always have more =20 ideas than I need. That way, if something just doesn't "click" I can =20 move on. In my (paid) work as an organist, my job demands that I improvise all =20 the time -- so the opportunity to play prepared compositions is really =20 a pleasure for me. Sometimes I burn out on my own improvisation. :) -- Kevin Quoting Mark Hamburg : > > Interesting. I keep thinking I should go in with more material > "prepared". I usually have at least some ideas to explore, but I've had > times where I then can't get the loop going the way I wanted and I get > frustrated restarting a few times. Then there's Y2K8 where I was just > totally beat by the time I went on and I should probably be glad I > managed to do anything coherent. I think I got one good piece out of > three, but I need to go back and listen again. > > Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 03:48:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5176D3BE78; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 03:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 915 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:48:47 UTC Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:33:27 -0700 References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Server-Quench: 1b3fb084-6b70-11de-a90b-001f29070be2 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwVVfTALAxpo UEhAUlJWHgZrCx8B SBwaTBhxdxtAcWBx ZkJ9XHVZWVt6Oxh7 Sk08djFTZWdob2EZ HkVdcAUacVFJKE1F YlRiUiEKYXgGZy41 WgZiZzp0ZW0GJn4E Gl5VJ19IV3wGTHYE XR06Bzg3FFcIS20t NFpuC1sEBkEPM147 LVomX1scezsTFAAW O0ZKGC5fKBE5SjAl ChlfVEgVHSY1 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.kestrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1562/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 03:48:48 +0000 (UTC) I don't think it has to be one or the other. For me its 2 things: situation, and purpose. I often am in the position where I have to "win over" an audience in my allotted 30 minutes (and often in the 1st 2 minutes!). That means, every minute is composed. I play the best versions of my best songs. The songs I play in those situations are ones that I have composed and have rehearsed for maybe a 100 hours or more. If I'm playing my own concerts, for my own audience (i.e. NOT as opening act), I will make sure my program has a couple structured improvs that I might have mapped out vaguely before and at least one who-the-heck-knows-where-this-is-going improvisation. (I did it in April with Charles Rus from the San Francisco symphony...the 1st time he'd improvised in public!) When I improvise though, I'm still really careful to never go over 7 minutes. I like to keep things short and end decisively. Also...its worth noting that both Immi and I are classically trained. In the classical world, um, everything is composed beforehand! We don't tend to think that is weird. I don't play classical that often right now but I can play the same piece over and over and over again, classical or my own or a rock song... and the emotions feel new every time. If it didn't feel that "something", uniquely, every time I play the same song, then I would not play it... because I'd be cheating the audience. So in the classical world, not only is it normal to have everything pre-composed, but one must rehearse over and over and over and over....something I'm a strong believer in. So Rick, don't worry about it! You'll still be yourself. You should do both. On Jul 7, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > In another thread, Matt Davignon wrote: > "On the other hand, many of the acts I've seen left me feeling like > the performers are locked > into a scripted grid, with fewer opportunities to take the material > in a direction other than a > previously-drawn, forward-pointing arrow from start to finish." > > > Honestly, I have had the same reaction. Granted, there are > artists who pull it off > with panache and a sense of spontaneity's (I think , specifically, > of Zoe Keating, Imogen Heap, Juana Molina and > Kid Beyond) but in general, pre-rehearsed and already thought out > pieces of music > using live looping feel as sterile to me as people push playing on > DATs, I-pods, CDs, DVDS > or computers. > > I actually really and truly loved sculptured recordings but to me, > the live sphere is a different thing. > > And maybe this is just because I lack the discipline to go to all > the work of pre arranging > pieces of music when I play, but the last ten years or so of my life > have been all improvisational. > > Of course, one (and specifically, me) run the risk of not having a > cogent enough performance > or , worst yet in live looping, taking too long to create a piece > of music and letting it go > on for longer than it is musically interesting for the audience. > It's a constant worry for me and > I frequently blow it live. > > I've noticed that a lot of loopers in our community seem to fail to > realize that the what feels good > to play; what seems like a certain length of time in developing a > piece of music is completely > different for the audience. > > Personally, just because I teach a lot of live looping in my > hometown, I tell newbies to set > up a clock and to force themselves to start, develop and cogentally > end a piece of music > every five minutes so that they have six pieces of music in a > festival set of thirty minutes. > > It's a tough discipline to do that. I purposefully write set lists > with 6 to 7 tableaus in it. > I don't know what I'm going to play, but I do take 6 or 8 'sets' of > instruments to each gig > so that I can keep a found sound performance intriguing. > > I've discovered is someone has the discipline to play 6 five minute > songs in order five times a week > that after a month, they are ready to perform a pretty interesting > set as a newbie at the festival. > > ****** > Also, and pardon this rambling post, but I"m in a 'waxing > philosophic' mode today: > > I'm writing some new material that is more song oriented and even > (damn this is scary to admit in public) > singer/songwriter oriented, so I know that I need to figure out a > way that I can compromise my > desire for spontaneity and improvisation with composed (if not > arranged) material. > > It's a really challenging thing for me. Frankly, it really scares > me because it's so different from the freedom > I've had for ten years, but I also am really hearing some new > things with my new foray into stringed > instruments. > > > SOOOOO, pros and cons..................what do y'all like and/or > dislike about pre arranged live looping shows > and what do you like or dislike about pure improvisational shows. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 03:56:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C02A3BE73; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 03:56:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1041 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:56:28 UTC Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090707221823.dxlq3x8xa8844og4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:39:03 -0700 References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <20090707221823.dxlq3x8xa8844og4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Server-Quench: e30e1e41-6b70-11de-a90b-001f29070be2 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwVVfTALAxpo UEhAUlJWHgZhCxwE SBwaTBhxdxtAcWBx ZkJ9XHVZWVt6Oxh7 Sk0AEW1eZWdpb2Mb HkFadwIaJQBKKx4Q blFiUiEKYXgGZy41 WgZiZzp0ZW0GJn4E Gl5VJ19IV3wGTHYE XR06Bzg3FFcIS20t NFpuC1sEBkEPM147 LVomX1scezsTFAAW O0ZKGC5fKBE5SjAl ChlfVEgVHSY1 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.kestrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1562/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: <9wllQC.A.RbC.tjBVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 03:56:29 +0000 (UTC) that's a good point kevin there are a few songs of mine that i don't play anymore because i got bored with them. that told me that they weren't good enough! On Jul 7, 2009, at 8:18 PM, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > > The challenge, then, with composed music is to keep it interesting > and fresh. This is as true when playing classical music as it is > playing looped music or anything else. With great compositions one > can return to them and find new aspects, etc. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 04:28:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 476073BE77; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 04:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NgChv8hFlxqcNUeblnp442F6eKFr6mNhTHKZlk4L+0Y=; b=cCmfYeXVya/FC1lnfrJyNY63yzH7IPM82dV0MGA+nuvAM5ZRgO+ovzJsWOFB7nUboY kls/kQsucBS/1ImG23Fpj50h72QQZok/1LvURQ6CxHq7lzFVDq11xev1A7bq7cg02uWz MpNYkDijXZLnJPTgmyd9VdpdQSdNSQMe+52a0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wZLZmSMJelZ253UMFCajspcxd19/w+IomvDLeg1yRkNhVWmWBUQFJdfFbc9VXk4Aih IkHnDlcVbv0C4PKnc8X46CkqvOjX0ZBXzW4RZUCC3+y/nU7WtIXVY/xSNfffvhvQowKs m0sZLZpGR1E0XzIkoVoHpM8Vmx+ZCjQZkzQTM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <20090707221823.dxlq3x8xa8844og4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:28:11 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 04:28:12 +0000 (UTC) My take on it is probably not going to be really popular, but here it is. I've tried to do things more "canned" in a sense. I developed a little set up that was more like a Kid Beyond type of show. I took it out a few times and got good response, but it was kind of boring for me. I didn't really like doing it. Like Rick said, it felt "canned." However, I think the audience doesn't care, and in fact probably ends up appreciating the pre-composed bits more. Here's the part that a lot of your won't like. I like the composed bits more too. I found myself mostly bored with the the loop wankery at all the loopfests I've seen and I'd much rather see a !loopstation! show or a Kid Beyond show. The stand out loop shows I've seen that come to mind are the two I've mentioned, Andre LaFosse, Amy X Neuberg, Brian Kenny Fresno... all pre-composed tunes for the most part. Sorry, I consider myself among the boring though, so I'm in good company. It's no secret that the audience for loop fests are the loopers and we're there as a community more than anything else. I just don't think that we should kid ourselves into thinking that what we do is for an audience. It's for ourselves first and foremost. I think that's great, and in a sense a more pure art... it's just not always that fun to observe. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 09:15:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EFE93BE77; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:15:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090708091549108.1A6B71C00084@mwinf3407.me.freeserve.com Message-Id: <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> From: Steve Bingham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:15:47 +0100 References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:15:51 +0000 (UTC) Rather like Zoe, I come at this from a classically trained background where I played everything straight from the composers music for about 20 years! When I started some tentative improvisation it was in a group and not solo, which somehow felt easier. In that group I got the looping bug from Steve Lawson, but didn't feel confident enough in my own compositional/improvisational ability to go for completely free looping. My solo gigs also tend not to be entirely loop based, I also play a range of classical and non-classical unacompanied violin pieces (Bach, Piazzolla and so on). I think this really adds variety to the shows and also allows me to keep my 'classical' identity, which is still an important part of what I do. With the looping I have built up a load of arrangements of various pieces - Beatles stuff, Nirvana, minimalist things by Glass and Reich, folk tunes, and pieces written specially for me - which involve fairly complex pedal setups. There can be some improv within them (and usually there is) but I have to stick fairly closely to the 'script' to keep the loops working correctly for the arrangement. I enjoy the challenge of working out these arrangements and they go down well with audiences (so far anyway!!). Again like Zoe I want to win over the audience straight away, and for me that means playing something I know really well (I know - scared of taking risks! But there's always a risk with looping however well planned....), at least for the opening number. More recently I've been adding some of my own pieces to my sets, but I'm a long, long way from a totally free set: I'll probably never get there, maybe just a slight change of balance as I explore some freer material. Basically I really love doing the worked out arrangements, which always feel slightly different in every show, and I keep getting ideas for more pieces I want to arrange. I'll even admit to playing the Pachelbel Canon in some shows (!). As it's originally written for violins (and continuo of course) it seems to work well. Also I play it entirely in the original form, ie. bass line and then 3 canonic violin parts (no blazing electric violin improvised virtuosic solos for me in this one!). Audiences tend to fall into 2 categories here: There are always lots who love the piece and come up to me to thank me for playing their favourite classical work. The second type come up to me and say "I'm so sick of that piece, but it was great to hear it done by just one person"! Me - I quite like the piece anyway! For me looping (and my musical career in general) has been, and continues to be, an evolutionary process: Nothing is out of the question, it's just that it may take me a while to get around to some things (although listening to some of the music mentioned on this list is undoubtedly speeding up the process - thanks!). But you wait, if I'm still looping when I'm 90 it'll be a whole different ball game........ Best wishes to all, Steve From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 09:52:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E7163BE7C; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d62cef2b-0bab-43d1-9ba8-9f10608fbcec_" X-Originating-IP: [83.145.33.34] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:52:59 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2009 09:52:58.0974 (UTC) FILETIME=[E008D7E0:01C9FFB1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:52:59 +0000 (UTC) --_d62cef2b-0bab-43d1-9ba8-9f10608fbcec_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Without reading the other answers=2C I frankly find this layering of pre th= ought out parts rather boring (with some exceptions=2C the artist you menti= on for example). Especially if it is in singer songwriter context with voca= ls. To me it is just a one man band thing were i miss the REAL band aspect.= =20 I sort of agree on the 5 minute "rule" which I always break=2C BUT sometime= s i find that I'm changing stuff to often. I sort of like a LONG monotonous= underlying sound with different themes change on top but to be a good long= piece there should be distinct parts within the longer piece.=20 =20 Will now read the other replies.. =20 Anders www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl =20 > Date: Tue=2C 7 Jul 2009 17:29:12 -0700 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances >=20 > In another thread=2C=20 > Matt Davignon wrote: > "On the other hand=2C many of the acts I've seen left me feeling like the= =20 > performers are locked > into a scripted grid=2C with fewer opportunities to take the material in = a=20 > direction other than a > previously-drawn=2C forward-pointing arrow from start to finish." >=20 >=20 > Honestly=2C I have had the same reaction. Granted=2C there are artists=20 > who pull it off > with panache and a sense of spontaneity's (I think =2C specifically=2C of= =20 > Zoe Keating=2C Imogen Heap=2C Juana Molina and > Kid Beyond) but in general=2C pre-rehearsed and already thought out=20 > pieces of music > using live looping feel as sterile to me as people push playing on DATs= =2C=20 > I-pods=2C CDs=2C DVDS > or computers. >=20 > I actually really and truly loved sculptured recordings but to me=2C the= =20 > live sphere is a different thing. >=20 > And maybe this is just because I lack the discipline to go to all the=20 > work of pre arranging > pieces of music when I play=2C but the last ten years or so of my life=20 > have been all improvisational. >=20 > Of course=2C one (and specifically=2C me) run the risk of not having a=20 > cogent enough performance > or =2C worst yet in live looping=2C taking too long to create a piece of= =20 > music and letting it go > on for longer than it is musically interesting for the audience. It's a=20 > constant worry for me and > I frequently blow it live. >=20 > I've noticed that a lot of loopers in our community seem to fail to=20 > realize that the what feels good > to play=3B what seems like a certain length of time in developing a=20 > piece of music is completely > different for the audience. >=20 > Personally=2C just because I teach a lot of live looping in my hometown= =2C=20 > I tell newbies to set > up a clock and to force themselves to start=2C develop and cogentally end= =20 > a piece of music > every five minutes so that they have six pieces of music in a festival=20 > set of thirty minutes. >=20 > It's a tough discipline to do that. I purposefully write set lists=20 > with 6 to 7 tableaus in it. > I don't know what I'm going to play=2C but I do take 6 or 8 'sets' of=20 > instruments to each gig > so that I can keep a found sound performance intriguing. >=20 > I've discovered is someone has the discipline to play 6 five minute=20 > songs in order five times a week > that after a month=2C they are ready to perform a pretty interesting set= =20 > as a newbie at the festival. >=20 > ****** > Also=2C and pardon this rambling post=2C but I"m in a 'waxing philosophic= '=20 > mode today: >=20 > I'm writing some new material that is more song oriented and even (damn=20 > this is scary to admit in public) > singer/songwriter oriented=2C so I know that I need to figure out a way=20 > that I can compromise my > desire for spontaneity and improvisation with composed (if not=20 > arranged) material. >=20 > It's a really challenging thing for me. Frankly=2C it really scares me=20 > because it's so different from the freedom > I've had for ten years=2C but I also am really hearing some new things=20 > with my new foray into stringed > instruments. >=20 >=20 > SOOOOO=2C pros and cons..................what do y'all like and/or=20 > dislike about pre arranged live looping shows > and what do you like or dislike about pure improvisational shows. >=20 --_d62cef2b-0bab-43d1-9ba8-9f10608fbcec_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Without reading the other answers=2C I frankly find this layering of pre th= ought out parts rather boring (with some exceptions=2C the artist you menti= on for example). Especially if it is in singer songwriter context with = =3Bvocals. To me it is just a one man band thing were i miss the REAL band = aspect.
I sort of agree on the 5 minute =3B"rule" which I always break=2C BUT s= ometimes i =3Bfind that I'm changing stuff to often. I sort of like a L= ONG monotonous underlying sound with =3Bdifferent themes change =3B= on top but to be a good =3Blong piece there should be distinct parts wi= thin the longer piece.
 =3B
Will now read the other replies..
 =3B
Anders
www.soundclick.com/and= ersbergdahl
 =3B
>=3B Date: Tue=2C 7 Jul 2009 17:29:12 -070= 0
>=3B From: looppool@cruzio.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers= -delight.com
>=3B Subject: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Loopin= g Performances
>=3B
>=3B In another thread=2C
>=3B Matt Da= vignon wrote:
>=3B "On the other hand=2C many of the acts I've seen le= ft me feeling like the
>=3B performers are locked
>=3B into a sc= ripted grid=2C with fewer opportunities to take the material in a
>= =3B direction other than a
>=3B previously-drawn=2C forward-pointing a= rrow from start to finish."
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B Honestly=2C I h= ave had the same reaction. Granted=2C there are artists
>=3B who pull= it off
>=3B with panache and a sense of spontaneity's (I think =2C sp= ecifically=2C of
>=3B Zoe Keating=2C Imogen Heap=2C Juana Molina and<= BR>>=3B Kid Beyond) but in general=2C pre-rehearsed and already thought o= ut
>=3B pieces of music
>=3B using live looping feel as sterile = to me as people push playing on DATs=2C
>=3B I-pods=2C CDs=2C DVDS>=3B or computers.
>=3B
>=3B I actually really and truly love= d sculptured recordings but to me=2C the
>=3B live sphere is a differ= ent thing.
>=3B
>=3B And maybe this is just because I lack the d= iscipline to go to all the
>=3B work of pre arranging
>=3B piece= s of music when I play=2C but the last ten years or so of my life
>= =3B have been all improvisational.
>=3B
>=3B Of course=2C one (a= nd specifically=2C me) run the risk of not having a
>=3B cogent enoug= h performance
>=3B or =2C worst yet in live looping=2C taking too long= to create a piece of
>=3B music and letting it go
>=3B on for l= onger than it is musically interesting for the audience. It's a
>=3B = constant worry for me and
>=3B I frequently blow it live.
>=3B >=3B I've noticed that a lot of loopers in our community seem to fail t= o
>=3B realize that the what feels good
>=3B to play=3B what see= ms like a certain length of time in developing a
>=3B piece of music = is completely
>=3B different for the audience.
>=3B
>=3B Pe= rsonally=2C just because I teach a lot of live looping in my hometown=2C >=3B I tell newbies to set
>=3B up a clock and to force themselves= to start=2C develop and cogentally end
>=3B a piece of music
>= =3B every five minutes so that they have six pieces of music in a festival =
>=3B set of thirty minutes.
>=3B
>=3B It's a tough discipl= ine to do that. I purposefully write set lists
>=3B with 6 to 7 table= aus in it.
>=3B I don't know what I'm going to play=2C but I do take 6= or 8 'sets' of
>=3B instruments to each gig
>=3B so that I can = keep a found sound performance intriguing.
>=3B
>=3B I've discov= ered is someone has the discipline to play 6 five minute
>=3B songs i= n order five times a week
>=3B that after a month=2C they are ready to= perform a pretty interesting set
>=3B as a newbie at the festival.>=3B
>=3B ******
>=3B Also=2C and pardon this rambling post= =2C but I"m in a 'waxing philosophic'
>=3B mode today:
>=3B
= >=3B I'm writing some new material that is more song oriented and even (d= amn
>=3B this is scary to admit in public)
>=3B singer/songwrite= r oriented=2C so I know that I need to figure out a way
>=3B that I c= an compromise my
>=3B desire for spontaneity and improvisation with co= mposed (if not
>=3B arranged) material.
>=3B
>=3B It's a r= eally challenging thing for me. Frankly=2C it really scares me
>=3B b= ecause it's so different from the freedom
>=3B I've had for ten years= =2C but I also am really hearing some new things
>=3B with my new for= ay into stringed
>=3B instruments.
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B SOO= OOO=2C pros and cons..................what do y'all like and/or
>=3B = dislike about pre arranged live looping shows
>=3B and what do you lik= e or dislike about pure improvisational shows.
>=3B
= --_d62cef2b-0bab-43d1-9ba8-9f10608fbcec_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 10:13:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E9B23BE75; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_70494144-6174-4337-a499-bf71e98b0884_" X-Originating-IP: [83.145.33.34] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:13:14 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2009 10:13:14.0824 (UTC) FILETIME=[B4BCD480:01C9FFB4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:13:15 +0000 (UTC) --_70494144-6174-4337-a499-bf71e98b0884_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I do think there is a BIG difference between the sort of "classical" music = background and the "rock" "folk" thing. A classically trained musician=2C t= o me=2C "use" a composed piece a a starting point of interpretation (improv= isation) it is the small variations that the musician "adds" to the compos= ition that makes it interesting. That might be the reason that classically = trained musicians *tend* to do composed looping more interesting than folk/= rock musicians (like me). Many musicians with rock background really CANT compose intresting instrume= ntal music=2C i can't=2C not yet at least!! We can write song=2C instrumnta= l sometimes=2C nut not usally with couter themes=2C development etc... BUT some rockers/jazzers can imprivise and some times there as nuggets in t= hose improvisation. And over time. like Andre LaFosse=2C you keep those nug= gets and turn them into songs...=20 Still I do NOT usually like the approach that is like - first I do a fun be= at=2C then add bass=2C some backing vocals=2C more rhytms=2C a guitar=2C si= ng verse...... =20 > From: sbingham@con-brio.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances > Date: Wed=2C 8 Jul 2009 10:15:47 +0100 >=20 > Rather like Zoe=2C I come at this from a classically trained background=20 > where I played everything straight from the composers music for about=20 > 20 years! When I started some tentative improvisation it was in a=20 > group and not solo=2C which somehow felt easier. In that group I got the= =20 > looping bug from Steve Lawson=2C but .....................= --_70494144-6174-4337-a499-bf71e98b0884_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I do think there is a BIG difference between the sort of "classical" music = background and the "rock" "folk" thing. A classically trained musician=2C t= o me=2C =3B"use" a composed piece a a starting point of interpretation = (improvisation) it is the small variations that the musician =3B"adds" = to =3B the composition that makes it interesting. That might be the rea= son that classically trained musicians =3B*tend* to do composed looping= more interesting than folk/rock musicians (like me).
Many musicians with =3Brock background really CANT compose intresting i= nstrumental music=2C i can't=2C not yet at least!! We can write song=2C ins= trumntal sometimes=2C nut not =3Busally with couter themes=2C developme= nt etc...
BUT some rockers/jazzers can imprivise and some times there as nuggets in t= hose improvisation. And over time. like Andre =3BLaFosse=2C you keep th= ose nuggets =3Band turn them into songs...
Still I do =3BNOT usually =3Blike the approach =3Bthat is like&= nbsp=3B- first I do a fun beat=2C then add bass=2C some =3Bbacking voca= ls=2C more rhytms=2C a guitar=2C sing verse......
 =3B
>=3B Fro= m: sbingham@con-brio.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<= BR>>=3B Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Perform= ances
>=3B Date: Wed=2C 8 Jul 2009 10:15:47 +0100
>=3B
>=3B= Rather like Zoe=2C I come at this from a classically trained background >=3B where I played everything straight from the composers music for ab= out
>=3B 20 years! When I started some tentative improvisation it was= in a
>=3B group and not solo=2C which somehow felt easier. In that g= roup I got the
>=3B looping bug from Steve Lawson=2C but ............= ......... = --_70494144-6174-4337-a499-bf71e98b0884_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 10:59:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 344FC3BE77; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=s4V4WOPza3SqK7D6P9+FiqX6sLbYShaq7mChimnfqsI=; b=CbJet3ulvkTmrdGcYMPXXqiEIF5K2WokJD2Ks1FrZhmcv/VOAdiDX3vhd2wQJ0Qm9L PGSLRkJumIY9MCkoO3B92nifQhYmbo+f1K5o8Kg3NSfYR0jsVNj4ts0UkgGO8F6skxLn 5l9DHGLrN7RWHQWpv5IPV8JBed82B6S34ASRw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TJLZ5OkVJDNJzFS2Z3MHiZmaH9BaBL1BKVJheBtNth98Abiu2VnDH3BunmgzB2ZL0M COfgGlWUeGnOW16k1rRheKApULjCe/4KxJeDgt55TjwFkDwE9V3CWuPW9kSn84QwLae2 zoXnFjZKVgh+cgpAcOTB3SVbNeDsACD1yL2v0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:59:02 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907080359r63f21083y2661dbe748a5c394@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:59:04 +0000 (UTC) INteresting reading. Thanks for everyone posting! Lately I have noticed, to my big surprise, that people at my gigs think I am classically trained. This totally wrong. My "instrument of the day", the alto flute, I actually bought just four years ago to start using particularly with looping. However... ...like classical players I do practice a lot. But I don't practice playing particular pieces. I practice what I call "instant composing". It's the technique to improvise musical structures that lock in over time, as opposed to the kind of improvisation where you "react to sound in the moment" . You train your mind to spread out into the future and into the past and you learn to see a chain of moments as one unified process. And this process doesn't flow in one direction, it is more like a sea than a river. Technically you have to explore all relations between melodies, scales, chords and in live looping particularly parallel transposition. A musical parallel transposition happens when you speed shift a chord. Depending on being a minor or major chord it brings certain implications for how you can go melody-wise with it. And the transposed interval also affects rhythm since the loop goes faster if speeded up (in pitch) and slower if slowed down (in pitch). This was just the short version, but my point is that by exploring how all these parameters relates musically you can develop a paradigm for your expression. Oddly, it really is discipline that can set you free. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 11:12:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E64CF3BE79; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:12:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=owgDwwvqNUjcw1YeFhqfbj/LTHkzPFN/c9/g7ALSao0=; b=IhFHMpYG9fM/qnE7++ORJM5wZGkew3nDbDUhyY3HsHTJ9nR7zMtUuN9yd7YcdUZ2MR BAAenvwWEXrwMBGwychSpnFGgnS7sYRMsYhR7qLQCsk5g6MVG4ff2jeu2f9uhU97t+Nc gkxrDK+DM5Wg5c408htXgNUm1VVmnBTrTpNvA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tSTD5HDrQnlYpoqr6Bdoi7jTVG8IaDmKWUemFWb0XwlVTS0hx6ZrbIIbOeuw/8BenF mEt71dd01sc6eEeYYsGHaHSi+/TAv5CVi7/OnNOmMB5eFcvspef9YY7pS7zq+lmQlRVx eI5iChSEPDPT8azmOt15xia2R3ib/8b89wWhQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:12:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b9d12cc5621046e2fd0d3 Resent-Message-ID: <9VRQ0B.A.VNH.h8HVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:12:33 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b9d12cc5621046e2fd0d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Interesting discussion ! When I play in my studio, I always improvise and sometimes some nice themes come out. Surely is my "classical backgroud", but when I find a theme that I really like, I dont' want to let it go, so I try to work on an arrangement for that theme. I'm one of those who can play for hours and hours the same piece of music, but I always tend to have "free parts" in a song for improvisation. For example, at the last loopfests (Antwerp-Florence-Rome) I've played "three pictures": - first one was a structured piece of music with predefined themes and two parts (in the middle and at the end) where to improvise; - the second was a 100% soundscape improvvisation; here just the tonal centre was predefined; - the last one was the first section of Piano Phase by Steve Reich; and here I was really "locked into a grid", as a classical player usually is. Differently from that, two week later the Loopfest in Rome I've played a 100% improvised set with a percussionist and war guitar player. At the end, I can say that for me the approach to follow depends by the live context I have to play in: if I play with other musician I love to improvise all the time, but if I play alone on the stage I prefer to mix the two approaches and expose "my" musical themes. Fabio www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo 2009/7/8 Anders Bergdahl > I do think there is a BIG difference between the sort of "classical" music > background and the "rock" "folk" thing. A classically trained musician, to > me, "use" a composed piece a a starting point of interpretation > (improvisation) it is the small variations that the musician "adds" to the > composition that makes it interesting. That might be the reason that > classically trained musicians *tend* to do composed looping more interesting > than folk/rock musicians (like me). > Many musicians with rock background really CANT compose intresting > instrumental music, i can't, not yet at least!! We can write song, > instrumntal sometimes, nut not usally with couter themes, development etc... > BUT some rockers/jazzers can imprivise and some times there as nuggets in > those improvisation. And over time. like Andre LaFosse, you keep those > nuggets and turn them into songs... > Still I do NOT usually like the approach that is like - first I do a fun > beat, then add bass, some backing vocals, more rhytms, a guitar, sing > verse...... > > > From: sbingham@con-brio.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances > > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:15:47 +0100 > > > > Rather like Zoe, I come at this from a classically trained background > > where I played everything straight from the composers music for about > > 20 years! When I started some tentative improvisation it was in a > > group and not solo, which somehow felt easier. In that group I got the > > looping bug from Steve Lawson, but ..................... > --0016363b9d12cc5621046e2fd0d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Interesting discussion !
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When I play in my studio, I always improvise and sometimes some nice t= hemes come out.
Surely is my "classical backgroud", but when I find a theme = that I really like, I dont' want to let it go, so I try to work on an a= rrangement for that theme.
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I'm one of those who=A0can play for hours and hours the same piece= of music, but I always tend to have "free parts" in a song=A0for= improvisation.
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For example,=A0at the last loopfests (Antwerp-Florence-Rome) I've = played "three pictures":
- first one was a structured piece of music with predefined themes and= =A0=A0two parts (in the middle and at the end) where to improvise;
- the second was a 100% soundscape improvvisation; here just the tonal= centre was predefined;
- the last one was the first section of Piano Phase by Steve Reich; an= d here I was really "locked=A0into a grid", as a classical player= usually is.
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Differently from that,=A0two=A0week later the Loopfest in Rome I'v= e played a 100% improvised set with a percussionist and war guitar player.<= /div>
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At the end, I can say that for me the approach to follow depends by th= e live context I have to play in: if I play with other musician I love to i= mprovise all the time, but if I play alone on the stage I prefer to mix the= two approaches and expose "my" musical themes.
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I do think there is a BIG difference between the sort of "classic= al" music background and the "rock" "folk" thing. = A classically trained musician, to me,=A0"use" a composed piece a= a starting point of interpretation (improvisation) it is the small variati= ons that the musician=A0"adds" to=A0 the composition that makes i= t interesting. That might be the reason that classically trained musicians= =A0*tend* to do composed looping more interesting than folk/rock musicians = (like me).
Many musicians with=A0rock background really CANT compose intresting instru= mental music, i can't, not yet at least!! We can write song, instrumnta= l sometimes, nut not=A0usally with couter themes, development etc...
BUT= some rockers/jazzers can imprivise and some times there as nuggets in thos= e improvisation. And over time. like Andre=A0LaFosse, you keep those nugget= s=A0and turn them into songs...
Still I do=A0NOT usually=A0like the approach=A0that is like=A0- first I do = a fun beat, then add bass, some=A0backing vocals, more rhytms, a guitar, si= ng verse......
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> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performan= ces
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:15:47 +0100=20

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> Rather like Zoe, I come at this from a = classically trained background
> where I played everything straight = from the composers music for about
> 20 years! When I started some t= entative improvisation it was in a
> group and not solo, which somehow felt easier. In that group I got the=
> looping bug from Steve Lawson, but .....................

--0016363b9d12cc5621046e2fd0d3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 11:18:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 177D33BE7F; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: SoTd7L8VM1kIJ3lISFJngSLiFRXHWBWVQirVVwY_9PRoSA5tExy4ldXILqAfhM3oQnwSWe7X_52mBmwNMj17eHi1PevDcj1sq4aax7vOssSXRcCDk3n3fKIxhj0TPj6tqccSBX3QSQodutY_5Oph5Ioe_uYagB6iNVLxaUv3XpI2JSozC2mQ8HJfcP5Jo0ciYxIdDmoF8F.tbSFZglYKRPlws1fq3qvxkOFIU0cCs32DqTgyveKwTN.lTD6wp5czONZSX8neFijVTcKxeZ9KP_tVPyLlLGhpcQ9.c1pMRh9HyU3BmQVd19iQ80EmQDeYNvzIb4iGa9Qw9q2C41.ygm9wRuHrmJzCuso- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <004301c9ffbd$db0094c0$0301a8c0@A> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:18:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Just on the note of Classical music being precomposed and Bach's name creeping up, let us not forget that while that may be predominantly the case that classical music is from the score, Bach's fugues, to my knowledge, and correct me if I am wrong but I'm pretty sure that I am correct on this, were exercises to improvise with. (check that out for a run on) I have never really gotten over the "authenticity" issue surrounding scored works, but that's another conversation. I guess, like most things in life, never mind music, a healthy balanced diet is key. So, while preprepared can be quite fruitful in terms of performance, it can also provide a vehicle for improvisation. Pre written motifs can be explored in terms of all their musical cues, and that really facinates me in this day and age and with the technology we have to manipulate proximity, pitch, timbre etc. Following on from what Per has said, I think it is important to explore "all relations between melodies, scales, chords". But prior knowledge calls into question as to whether or not we are really dealing with Improvisation?! Here's a link on Improvisation and the great composers that I found quite interesting: http://ericbarnhill.wordpress.com/facts-about-improvisation/ Ricardo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Bingham" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:15 AM Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances > Rather like Zoe, I come at this from a classically trained background > where I played everything straight from the composers music for about > 20 years! When I started some tentative improvisation it was in a > group and not solo, which somehow felt easier. In that group I got the > looping bug from Steve Lawson, but didn't feel confident enough in my > own compositional/improvisational ability to go for completely free > looping. > > My solo gigs also tend not to be entirely loop based, I also play a > range of classical and non-classical unacompanied violin pieces (Bach, > Piazzolla and so on). I think this really adds variety to the shows > and also allows me to keep my 'classical' identity, which is still an > important part of what I do. > > With the looping I have built up a load of arrangements of various > pieces - Beatles stuff, Nirvana, minimalist things by Glass and Reich, > folk tunes, and pieces written specially for me - which involve fairly > complex pedal setups. There can be some improv within them (and > usually there is) but I have to stick fairly closely to the 'script' > to keep the loops working correctly for the arrangement. I enjoy the > challenge of working out these arrangements and they go down well with > audiences (so far anyway!!). Again like Zoe I want to win over the > audience straight away, and for me that means playing something I know > really well (I know - scared of taking risks! But there's always a > risk with looping however well planned....), at least for the opening > number. > > More recently I've been adding some of my own pieces to my sets, but > I'm a long, long way from a totally free set: I'll probably never get > there, maybe just a slight change of balance as I explore some freer > material. > > Basically I really love doing the worked out arrangements, which > always feel slightly different in every show, and I keep getting ideas > for more pieces I want to arrange. > > I'll even admit to playing the Pachelbel Canon in some shows (!). As > it's originally written for violins (and continuo of course) it seems > to work well. Also I play it entirely in the original form, ie. bass > line and then 3 canonic violin parts (no blazing electric violin > improvised virtuosic solos for me in this one!). Audiences tend to > fall into 2 categories here: There are always lots who love the piece > and come up to me to thank me for playing their favourite classical > work. The second type come up to me and say "I'm so sick of that > piece, but it was great to hear it done by just one person"! > > Me - I quite like the piece anyway! > > For me looping (and my musical career in general) has been, and > continues to be, an evolutionary process: Nothing is out of the > question, it's just that it may take me a while to get around to some > things (although listening to some of the music mentioned on this list > is undoubtedly speeding up the process - thanks!). > > But you wait, if I'm still looping when I'm 90 it'll be a whole > different ball game........ > > Best wishes to all, > Steve > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.7/2222 - Release Date: 07/07/09 05:53:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 11:35:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8B3F3BE79; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A548490.5030709@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:35:44 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:35:52 +0000 (UTC) I have to agree to disagree with Mark Sottilaro's contention that looping festivals are only for loopers and not for audiences. I do see your point and I think there is an element of what you say that is true, however, in point of fact, you have, factually, been to very few of the festivals that I"ve personally produced. I know because I"ve invited you to come several times, unsuccessfully. So, at least with these festivals, you haven't been witness to the tremendous growth in both musical and artistic sophistication that has occurred at a very regular pace in at least the Y2K Series (and the many, many festivals I've played at in Europe, the UK, Japan and Mexico). I've seen some astonishing and beautiful performances at many of these festivals....................performances that would have wowed any discerning audience. I'm sorry that you seemed to have largely eschewed attending them because you've missed a lot of growth in the community. At the same time, I am perhaps the only person actively producing looping festivals who is very aggressively into putting complete 'newbies' on to stage in the early hours of the festivals.....................sometimes, musicians who have never even performed EVER in a live setting. I've done this very self consciously, and from the standpoint of an audience, I can be acused of 'watering down' the overall high level of the entire performance at the festivals. I've done it, however, very self consciously, because I believe that there is room in the world for communal support.............there is room for rank beginners to play on the same day (if not the same time) as complete professionals. I've been very proud of this policy and I think that the incredibly supportive and communal spirit of our larger community sets it apart from any musical movement in popular music, since the San Francisco Psychedelic movement of the late sixties. One of the things I brag about to journalists or even to really accomplished live loopers when trying to entice them to either cover or come to the festival is the fact that some of the world's best live loopers are in the audience cheering on the 'newbie's at 12 noon. One of the things I love to brag about is the fact that frequently, one of those newbies puts on such an interesting or original or provocative show that the 'oldbies' are blown away and inspired..........................I think of Lindsey Walker's quirky singer songwriter set last year. I was totally inspired by it. That said and done, I completely understand why other live looping producers have chosen not to use this approach. Looked at from one perspective, it can be seen as 'diluting' the professionalism of the festival to do it. But noone can sit through 30 hours of live looping artists and one unusual aspect of the festival is that everyone plays for only 30 minutes, so the whole thing can be a smorgasborg of styles and techniques......................you find someone uninteresting so you gravitate outside and have a fascinating conversation with a very sophisticated live looper from another country that turns you on and makes the artistry grow and get better. So Mark, I'd specifically love to invite you to not only come and perform this year, so we can see how you've grown as a live looping artist, but so that you can see what's grown in the ensuing years....................a lot has, I assure you. We'd be better as a community for your performance, involvement and support. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 11:36:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70ACD3BE78; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A5484B1.2030706@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:36:17 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Zoe wrote: 'So Rick, don't worry about it! You'll still be yourself. You should do both." Thanks, Zoe, I honestly believe that really good musicians transcend their genres and their approaches ultimately..................so that there can be real freedom in producing highly arranged pieces just as easily as there can be horrific boredom resulting from free improvisational pieces. I honestly started this thread to just stir up some thought and get people (including myself) to really look at what they do and figure out what else can be added to the mix. I even winced when I put the word 'vs.' in the thread because I honestly believe that the 'competition' between such approaches is a really bogus idea. I kind of regret that I did add that word because I was just trying to create a dialectic. I've seen you do both things, Zoe. And you are a really good musician whose aesthetic approach and musicianship and 'ears' I really respect, so I do believe that we can do both and don't look at it quite as simplistically as it may have sounded in my first opening salvo. ********** From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 11:47:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 353813BE78; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:47:19 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <0ACBF6E6-5F5B-4327-8226-3BBEB5D98B85@theclaypools.com> Message-ID: <20090708114719.176280@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> <692802.99780.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <606129.87810.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0ACBF6E6-5F5B-4327-8226-3BBEB5D98B85@theclaypools.com> Subject: Re: Is RC-50 really noisy? (And other concerns with noise in live rigs?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/KWftxEvHK1ZOAqmvZmu4cuDYnP6SENfBIyOR07K FB3C2/tiqSsqPoATBJIFQWl8WZusDR9ujfXg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: f7Bnfp42f2IsP/5yl21oXrt4dWxlcxZU X-FuHaFi: 0.8100000000000001 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Hi Margaret the RC-50 is one of the most transparent pieces of audio hardware in my chain. Try taking it off the chain and see if you still have the same noise. best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 12:01:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 598413BE79; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:01:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:01:41 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <004301c9ffbd$db0094c0$0301a8c0@A> Message-ID: <20090708120141.176290@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> <004301c9ffbd$db0094c0$0301a8c0@A> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18sabkNiFosfQZ5ted/syi6qW97yt6R29UK97cqZ8 yn2HGgaQ1nImBJNx9lfXfNoTsssA9koWiDPg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: lLhyYvTjLi50NoE/kWpprM9rZml1ZFir X-FuHaFi: 0.71 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:01:46 +0000 (UTC) What an excellent (non-OT) discussion! :) I believe a lot of it boils down to the concept of "ambient" vs. "song" structure: What do you want to express? a specific idea or experimental explorations? Personally, I like looping performances at least a bit structured (unless you can pull off a "Köln Concert"...), much like i.e. jazz improvisations based on a song structure. best regards Buzap -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 12:03:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66E593BE81; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:03:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090708120302893.DA2E37000082@mwinf3514.me.freeserve.com Message-Id: From: Steve Bingham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <004301c9ffbd$db0094c0$0301a8c0@A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:03:02 +0100 References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> <004301c9ffbd$db0094c0$0301a8c0@A> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:03:04 +0000 (UTC) On 8 Jul 2009, at 12:18, Ricky Graham wrote: > Just on the note of Classical music being precomposed and Bach's > name creeping up, let us not forget that while that may be > predominantly the case that classical music is from the score, > Bach's fugues, to my knowledge, and correct me if I am wrong but I'm > pretty sure that I am correct on this, were exercises to improvise > with. (check that out for a run on) Absolutely: Bach was the great improviser. Personally I feel that a successful performance of 'written' music is most often one where the performer(s) allow spontaneous musical interpretation to be as important as purely technical accuracy, thus bringing some elements of improvisation to the piece. Steve From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 12:29:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64AE63BE79; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1247056161; bh=UnMnB3IaP4raZZjNNwFkEEtvXcnFztzrEURPsGrbgFI=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=R9e/2HLgvMqpeL8cPabS7LfcDPgVTMhMxHg+yMuj+LrfjyxgkqXNyYRUa3pjHkHtB iJGivcZ9TLQ8dDPMYeaig7Eqkv1k54lFKGKwPQDt6mxn4maD5tG+DvI7H5zNhOzKOd ThMfXAQxuCBfNnk28HeWqUjzwtChLYPBtlYF63wM= Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:29:20 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <6AOaiB.A.OwE.iEJVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Great thread Rick, thanks for bringing this to our attention. I have seen= many many responses to this email but I've not opened them yet because I= wanted to give you an un-biased and neutral reply :) > Of course, one (and specifically, me) run the risk of not having a > cogent enough performance > or , worst yet in live looping, taking too long to create a piece of = > music and letting it go > on for longer than it is musically interesting for the audience. It's = a > constant worry for me and > I frequently blow it live. My way of preparing the shows we did last summer existed of several compo= nents: - technical preparation: make sure you know how to use your gear =3D> man= y hours of just playing and playing - sound preparation: programming synths and effect patches - 20 to 30 minute live improvisation rehearsals at home And although you will notice similarities between the shows I did, they a= re all different because I decided to improvise; the only fixed component= s were the key and the length of the piece. The reason I did this was tha= t I always hope a 25 minute live improvisation piece contains 5-10 minute= s of realy good stuf and than I'm happy. But your right, there's always t= he risc you blow it. But the trick is that, if you prepare yourself well,= you can avoid most "live blooping" situations ;) The other but most impo= rtant factor is "experience": you only learn on stage and nowhere else. M= istakes will continue to happen, performing solo on stage can be very str= essfull but I think you should just think "I don't give a ...." and try t= o enjoy the playing and the music. Not easy. > Personally, just because I teach a lot of live looping in my hometown, = > I tell newbies to set > up a clock and to force themselves to start, develop and cogentally end= > a piece of music > every five minutes so that they have six pieces of music in a festival = > set of thirty minutes. Imo this depends on the style of music you play. For the ambient stuff I = do, I think it's often better to have a piece of 30 minutes rather than 2= of 15 or 3 of 10 minutes. And now I'm going to read the other responses :) --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 12:32:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB74C3BE7E; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:32:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1247056375; bh=QcD1yHhXy2Z5TDHhInYZf1UFW4Ek1PSBjXQ4fSABo7A=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=vBapVZd/rK+mGtOH9ZdwPppofLa56WQJDXjZwZg17qb1oL/A2SO3HfmS9nES8CJuC ZCfu5hb76j1PEHJF4VraurvLgOnGw/4RoP6CV4EvlBsWvgwvPdBEcqxVr+jAaqQbIb MaayFQVnIyfH4o1a6LW84y7y2cUzQJYuMWsjdkLg= Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:32:54 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: RE: Hardware Looper goes Loopy for Software MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <1tt4uB.A.w5E.4HJVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:32:56 +0000 (UTC) > Luis wrote: > oh great news Sjaak! no mainstage anymore? No no, I use 95% Mainstage and I use Bidule for some midi tricks and to r= ecord a live performance :) --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g From bonus@carta.it Wed Jul 8 13:02:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1013 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:02:51 UTC Received: from mail.sandpoint.net (mail.sandpoint.net [69.41.131.7]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BE03BE6F; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:02:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 77.61.136.43 [77.61.136.43] by mail.sandpoint.net with ESMTP (SMTPD-11.0) id abbe000460d50218; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 05:44:43 -0700 Reply-To: From: "CartaSi S.p.A" Subject: Per la sua fidelita CartaSi Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:43:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <200907080544171.SM286933@User> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 13:08:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 085AB3BE7E; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at webline.be Message-ID: <20090708150757.15392zopqk7f4qio@ws120.webline.be> Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:07:57 +0200 From: "dirk serries" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:08:02 +0000 (UTC) >> Of course, one (and specifically, me) run the risk of not having a >> cogent enough performance >> or , worst yet in live looping, taking too long to create a piece of >> music and letting it go >> on for longer than it is musically interesting for the audience. It's a >> constant worry for me and >> I frequently blow it live. I personally have a modus operandi that avoids any kind of technique =20 that has to do with short motives or themes. I strongly believe, this =20 is what me always stand apart, that less is more and that the strength =20 of a few notes, in combination with a clever and lively approach to =20 incorporating looping devices, can be much more than the sum of =20 several themes together. The risk of using several themes after each other is that you forget =20 to give your set an unique passion and soul. I have a strong passion for going through the eye of the needle with =20 one particular motif over the stretch of the entire performance, =20 whether this is 15, 30 or even 45 minutes. The beauty of such an =20 approach is that the motif itself will guide you throughout the =20 duration. Through the use of a looping device (mostly only one in the =20 microphonics setting) is that it pushes me to work around this motif =20 with the uttermost concentration and, most important of all, to =20 actually enjoy the beauty of sound in general. I think that for every loop artist it's essential to first learn and =20 appreciate the quality of one particular sound, instrument and tool =20 before you start to play with various elements/themes at once. I still discover interesting facets about the electric guitar in =20 relationship to looping after so many years. This is why I was so enthusiastic about Sjaak Overgaauw's debut =20 looping performance at the Antwerp Looping Festival. Sjaak approached =20 his set with trying to stay focus to just a few things while =20 maintaining one motif. This way you can learn much more about the potential quality of each =20 instrument and looping device you use instead of trying all your tech =20 goodies out before an audience the first time. I'm sure Sjaak learned =20 a lot from this. www.microphonics.be www.myspace.com/mymicrophonics From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 13:29:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 366FE3BE79; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:29:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1247059741; l=4007; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=Q/RZQTDm9fCkiM+X55Gxz1Vi2bk=; b=CZW1lDaaIO+Hz0uB7Ddl9pWrSsStwRynxwk4nwLwjREHL+6vJYFXaw4i5CAd8g41afu cKC6gql2PDmTYlrJzKRXtHL30ok1AeVyM3a//hVe2svL/jaAJFy6rGCMGo3oPK0/yHULZ 4BTaccguUp0JVrv2rKondPgNcXziG3b2/Do= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <024301c9ffd0$83f08bf0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: "Loopers-Delight" References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:32:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:29:03 +0000 (UTC) I connect both live-looping/improvisation and kinda structured rehearsing: I did 2 CD-recordings recently with improvisational stuff, looping on the fly. Now I try to re-produce/rehearse these tracks which is quite exciting. Sometimes it sounds very similar to the existing tracks ,sometimes it sounds completely different. Still don´t know how I´m gonna do it live. Maybe a mix of new improvisations and re-productions of the existing material. Have a nice day! Christo www.christojota.de www.myspace.com/christojota ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:29 AM Subject: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances > In another thread, > Matt Davignon wrote: > "On the other hand, many of the acts I've seen left me feeling like the > performers are locked > into a scripted grid, with fewer opportunities to take the material in a > direction other than a > previously-drawn, forward-pointing arrow from start to finish." > > > Honestly, I have had the same reaction. Granted, there are artists > who pull it off > with panache and a sense of spontaneity's (I think , specifically, of > Zoe Keating, Imogen Heap, Juana Molina and > Kid Beyond) but in general, pre-rehearsed and already thought out > pieces of music > using live looping feel as sterile to me as people push playing on DATs, > I-pods, CDs, DVDS > or computers. > > I actually really and truly loved sculptured recordings but to me, the > live sphere is a different thing. > > And maybe this is just because I lack the discipline to go to all the > work of pre arranging > pieces of music when I play, but the last ten years or so of my life > have been all improvisational. > > Of course, one (and specifically, me) run the risk of not having a > cogent enough performance > or , worst yet in live looping, taking too long to create a piece of > music and letting it go > on for longer than it is musically interesting for the audience. It's a > constant worry for me and > I frequently blow it live. > > I've noticed that a lot of loopers in our community seem to fail to > realize that the what feels good > to play; what seems like a certain length of time in developing a > piece of music is completely > different for the audience. > > Personally, just because I teach a lot of live looping in my hometown, > I tell newbies to set > up a clock and to force themselves to start, develop and cogentally end > a piece of music > every five minutes so that they have six pieces of music in a festival > set of thirty minutes. > > It's a tough discipline to do that. I purposefully write set lists > with 6 to 7 tableaus in it. > I don't know what I'm going to play, but I do take 6 or 8 'sets' of > instruments to each gig > so that I can keep a found sound performance intriguing. > > I've discovered is someone has the discipline to play 6 five minute > songs in order five times a week > that after a month, they are ready to perform a pretty interesting set > as a newbie at the festival. > > ****** > Also, and pardon this rambling post, but I"m in a 'waxing philosophic' > mode today: > > I'm writing some new material that is more song oriented and even (damn > this is scary to admit in public) > singer/songwriter oriented, so I know that I need to figure out a way > that I can compromise my > desire for spontaneity and improvisation with composed (if not > arranged) material. > > It's a really challenging thing for me. Frankly, it really scares me > because it's so different from the freedom > I've had for ten years, but I also am really hearing some new things > with my new foray into stringed > instruments. > > > SOOOOO, pros and cons..................what do y'all like and/or > dislike about pre arranged live looping shows > and what do you like or dislike about pure improvisational shows. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 14:48:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F03923BE78; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5037473e-386f-4de2-9dd3-569fe551236c_" X-Originating-IP: [83.145.33.34] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: New music from me, two guitaristic improvisations trying to keep to some form... Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:48:32 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2009 14:48:32.0505 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A0AEE90:01C9FFDB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:48:36 +0000 (UTC) --_5037473e-386f-4de2-9dd3-569fe551236c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Finally got around to converting this improvisation into MP3. Using to Looper=2C Echoplex Digital Pro (EDP) in amp loop and KP3 as in the= mixer. Caught a guitar "thing" in the LP3 then slicing and dicing with EDP and of = course some lead playing over that. I Believe i used OD channel on the HRM = style Custom By Cougar amp and only Bridge pickup on the Soloway Cygnus gui= tar (firebird style Minihum). Connecting "improvised" vs "composed" this is composed=2C however one guita= r loop in KP 3 (recorded prior to pushing record) guides the improvisation= =2C also the KP3 sets the rhythm=2C almost. It kind of fun to let two synch= ronized loops interplay and then push a drum pattern just to see what happe= ns.. So of course it's not *free* improvisation=2C but trying to focus on s= omething while throwing ideas at the "theme" is sort of challenging... and = FUN Part 1 is mostly layered guitar then towards the end i play with BPM on the= KP3 which results in pitch shift which goes down one octave=2C so in part = 2 the guitar loop is a bass loop=2C FUN ..... Part one has some "drum" stuf= f from the KP3 both parts use the loop and sample of KP3 in mixed fashion. Go to www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl and part 1 should start playing followed = by part 2 or go direct to prefered part.. Part 2 is more experimental with strange sounds fr om the loopers as well a= s whacky tapping bend stuff... Very fun to play.. please comment on the LIS= TNING aspect of it. =20 Anders.. from a thundery and hot Stockholm SOON holiday :-) --_5037473e-386f-4de2-9dd3-569fe551236c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Finally got around to converting this improvisation into MP3.
Using to L= ooper=2C Echoplex Digital Pro (EDP) in amp loop and KP3 as in the mixer.Caught a guitar "thing" in the LP3 then slicing and dicing with EDP and of= course some lead playing over that. I Believe i used OD channel on the HRM= style Custom By Cougar amp and only Bridge pickup on the Soloway Cygnus gu= itar (firebird style Minihum).
Connecting "improvised" vs "composed" this is composed=2C however one guita= r loop in KP 3 (recorded prior to pushing record) guides the improvisation= =2C also the KP3 sets the rhythm=2C almost. It kind of fun to let two synch= ronized loops interplay and then push a drum pattern just to see what happe= ns.. So of course it's not *free* improvisation=2C but trying to focus on s= omething while throwing ideas at the "theme" is sort of challenging... and = FUN
Part 1 is mostly layered guitar then towards the end i play with BPM= on the KP3 which results in pitch shift which goes down one octave=2C so i= n part 2 the guitar loop is a bass loop=2C FUN ..... Part one has some "dru= m" stuff from the KP3 both parts use the loop and sample of KP3 in mixed fa= shion.
Go to
www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl= and pa= rt 1 should start playing followed by part 2= or go direct to prefered part..
Part 2 is more experimental = with strange sounds fr om the loopers as well as whacky tapping bend stuff.= .. Very fun to play.. please comment on the LISTNING aspect of it.
 =3B
Anders.. from a thundery and =3Bhot Stockholm SOON holiday :-)
= --_5037473e-386f-4de2-9dd3-569fe551236c_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 15:33:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29DAC3BE7F; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:33:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <4A548490.5030709@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:33:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:33:52 +0000 (UTC) Rick, I for one would like to thank you for putting us newbies on the stage. It is inspiring to have the opportunity to play 30 minutes of looping when normally I wouldn't have the opportunity. I've got more gigs than I want as a bassist in a band, but your festival is the only chance that I get to loop in front of an audience. As for the original topic, I'd like to throw my two cents in as an audience member and not as a performer. I honestly don't care if the piece is preprepared or improvisational. To me the most important thing is a connection with the audience. I can listen to the most beautiful music on my headphones all day, but it isn't the same as seeing a live musical performance. Music performers need to interact with their audience in some way. Talk between musical pieces to help the audience understand where the music came from is good. Good visual presentation of yourself during the musical piece is important as well. It is difficult to watch a performer that is focused on their electronics. Eye contact with the audience is key. Ultimately, it is all about making the audience feel like they are part of the event. It is this total presentation which is one of the reason I love Rick's performances so much. When I see Rick perform, I feel that he is sharing part of himself and we as an audience are lucky to be included. Not that the music is unimportant, because clearly he is very talented musically. However, developing that connection to the audience is equally important and something that we all should strive to attain. Please don't take any of this as an insult. I've seen so few of you play. Those that I have seen are tremendous and have been inspirational to me. Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 16:25:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73F943BE7E; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1247070329; bh=KaJQCa8vTOl7GDIRaTUZLud2rwLg7yts1lUf81e6YY8=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=d0NI+BdF2wD6FSkpRFexLXNC+PTidugQlwow4Xl7F/sgCsLQsPmnfDQjrP1NXi5t4 kWl5WcuedAVlM45tORaMVTxNLImnUIZxYYOhKqJmgen0iIjvvnCrYE7M09g7EgOXsK Tmdpu9u3qcof9aQDJyDCUigPDEuIoBkBf9mQrGdU= Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 18:25:28 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <3P0Ia.A.uZD.6hMVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:25:30 +0000 (UTC) > Dirk Serries wrote: > I have a strong passion for going through the eye of the needle with > one particular motif over the stretch of the entire performance, > whether this is 15, 30 or even 45 minutes. The beauty of such an > approach is that the motif itself will guide you throughout the > duration. Through the use of a looping device (mostly only one in the = > microphonics setting) is that it pushes me to work around this motif > with the uttermost concentration and, most important of all, to > actually enjoy the beauty of sound in general. This is what I like the most about live looping. When a song starts to li= ve, that's the moment when the performance is going into the right direct= ion. In my opinion, a loop is not just a layer of notes, chords and rhyth= mns but especially atmosphere and emotions. I'm always searching for atmo= sphere, it requires lot's of patience, concentration and inspiration but = this is where it's all about for me. > This is why I was so enthusiastic about Sjaak Overgaauw's debut > .... > I'm sure Sjaak learned a lot from this. Thanks Dirk, I learned a lot and I have enough to learn for the next 25 y= ears ;) --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 17:03:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FCD73BE79; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:03:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kA56zEHmy9w8IchVS8gRJSXSu5Ebr1i85Y8TFVsGQ0I=; b=uDV1DvAlo8ilPQd7dtTy6cuPMhTDSPN3Md8KgfZWkorZeO5JA1JxGnV2w1/282a+Wm xUe0JOlPvS9p3aFX1i4gHkJIcXcRMjXSlGJBP6bmKJNUHtHr5jhJPq6viWYJw7aiBldR Av2WI/jri6KmG8TCMaHcQAZaeHFq9wmwrZxrY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=vdoMRKSNzGDFkyhep3gGKDF4oIjMjLJ3On4v7aJIZZSf5uAEfTpKR2uNO5gicjqeYn +9waOEHzSyP2OriHeBLGucoQSFxSNus+X2EFtqc4ufsEQ/CrBKX5iFyiDsxju78xKiAM txJXvXYxhI0Rc1ysf8vK55dn3ubLNE0sLefH0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:03:29 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907081003r6a767c86s7a3d902f618ed2c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: for our planned festival - distribution channels regarding "call for performers", legal advice regarding ancillary copyright From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:03:31 +0000 (UTC) Dennis, thanks for your reply - but actually, you said what I was trying to express myself: "We could still use a CC license for the performance of work not previously covered by a contract (unless you have an agreement with a rights organization to whom you have signed over the COPYRIGHT of all your performances past and future, which even in this day and age people are still signing!)." >From what I understand (and I'm no lawyer myself, as you may have guessed), your contract with a performing rights organisation may not include handing over your copyright, but may very well include handing over the management of your performing rights, and that for all of your works you create while that contract is running. Which would mean that the organisation will charge a fee on any distribution of your material with the possible exception of internet transmission. Under that condition you could not publish anything under by-nc-nd (or any other cc license) without violating that contract. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 17:28:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FDBB3BE7F; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:28:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lk3tYeZd0HJrvgAMyM64/Bl/Ii/Fo3mWh3WkorNLPBY=; b=gNvqqVibNayxoIS8ds4vYowvIPrOPBpWKUXXSfsvGoXuJIyKDPyCR8FHBkehd9rvas uT0aFSXf9Of5TPkI8a80nu7GQaBVd8i5HVjQmIWdY1+Lo0fvx/DNuOCF7M2CwKBFmrk1 2qu7smnYtMIGsh3sQZEktt2dkhrOqggXQaIaU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kClzALtBVC2AQe0gM2pEuqsjnDKiavvTaXUL9zQNbzYyB0yKSv/Hy3mo5t7cw2zGig 9afORYImW9vlIIbrWmDxY1HlKAMJyPNlg3WESQfMNPQ9fxj6V8HlqDviex62ddUbloRd OrGctvfJOWgmdS27+2Et+z2Qw4SEL8aeEeXW0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907081003r6a767c86s7a3d902f618ed2c@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907081003r6a767c86s7a3d902f618ed2c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:28:32 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907081028o68741fb6v3c1227d4d1e6c168@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: for our planned festival - distribution channels regarding "call for performers", legal advice regarding ancillary copyright From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5knw5.A.I8E.BdNVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:28:33 +0000 (UTC) I would like to add to Rainer's excellent explanation that this is a field that puts focus on differences between European legislation and American copyright. These two are not the same; copyright is based on a contract while many European countries have a fundamental legislation to protect author's rights to their artistic work. At this very moment the leading Swedish performance rights organization, STIM, is working out ways to allow their members differentiated licensing. Traditionally STIM has set up an exclusive contract with members to represent their rights towards users of their music (like public radio, films, warehouses etc). This has helped composers a lot in the past but now in internet era some Scandinavian composers (STIM members) have run into problems both relating to Creative Commons and when collaborating directly with international online music labels that runs a business model that relies on to the American customs of copyright. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Dennis, > > thanks for your reply - but actually, you said what I was trying to > express myself: > > "We could still use a CC license for the performance of work not > previously covered by a contract (unless you have an agreement with a > rights organization to whom you have signed over the COPYRIGHT of all > your performances past and future, which even in this day and age > people are still signing!)." > > From what I understand (and I'm no lawyer myself, as you may have > guessed), your contract with a performing rights organisation may not > include handing over your copyright, but may very well include handing > over the management of your performing rights, and that for all of > your works you create while that contract is running. > > Which would mean that the organisation will charge a fee on any > distribution of your material with the possible exception of internet > transmission. Under that condition you could not publish anything > under by-nc-nd (or any other cc license) without violating that > contract. > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 17:41:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9FDC3BE7E; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0ScxDCFcnWRcLmYtc/6Dnce2B4nNYu6nlpfNtsIa7qQ=; b=ap4UTKgGiVhX4bK7jZCPcx61qHfI+IF1t87KrmOjULL+oMhG/gc6KBtTV+GI9Hw6kV CXZud261js4hU4CIkH+7fHuZp7/cme2nNrA77pjjDGBues7p0ZNiuAAB9ZZivFy3wLCn 9wLouMY/OrTAfv6NQUCNbnYuVT5RYcWjEorFM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sunP7JQdgwHMQRtBTfUrGoltbOiorkshMAaxAqnMekKPFOEF67W9FAIPGsDqF9MUQB kbrRPZCbkAPhsM8LiObqW3s2wHFkBEM7dSHKEbBIZ3Y9AlQaRU1vV900z9xOiqOPxDqZ 1hF2ysmhcBOn3Ug9LgexuwRtvJ8QTwhyDtjsQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907071404pd045cc4m25fe133eeb9da892@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907071404pd045cc4m25fe133eeb9da892@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:41:33 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907081041t2b7d0cecxf3eca6de079b1fed@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: for our planned festival - distribution channels regarding "call for performers", legal advice regarding ancillary copyright From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bb1306cebd046e3540bf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:41:34 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bb1306cebd046e3540bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit re #1 something I suggested to you personally re your own cast series in that you are featuring wind instruments now in your work i'd post on forums in instrument specific communities in your case brass and wind forums. you may get a fair amount of nazi critique meaning purist anal classical folks who don't have a clue re the experimental but chances are there will be some interest so re #1 I'd say hit some instrument specific areas on the web. Like I might post promo on Mikesoud.com forum or one of many of the acoustic guitar communities although those really get naziesque at times. For those of us who have done the RPM records there is an active community that occupies that world between Februarys so there also. re #2 I'd think the ref'ed CC license - not be irresponsible but given the experimental quality I wonder if we need to worry about this but then err on caution is better I guess. --001636c5bb1306cebd046e3540bf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
re #1 something I suggested to you personally re your own cast series = in that you are featuring wind instruments now in your work i'd post on= forums in instrument specific communities in your case brass and wind foru= ms.=A0 you may get a fair amount of nazi critique meaning purist anal class= ical folks who don't have a clue re the experimental but chances are th= ere will be some interest so re #1 I'd say hit some instrument specific= areas on the web.=A0 Like I might post promo on Mikesoud.com forum or one = of many of the acoustic guitar communities although those really get nazies= que at times.=A0
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For those of us who have done the RPM records there is an active commu= nity=A0 that occupies that world between Februarys so there also.
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re #2 I'd think the ref'ed CC license - not be irresponsible b= ut given the experimental quality I wonder if we need to worry about this b= ut then err on caution is better I guess.
--001636c5bb1306cebd046e3540bf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 17:58:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0994D3BE7C; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:58:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gdLlh0R67h8x2bjSTcU5wDCAE8yGV34McwCX67OD5D0=; b=eahNldzkERMZlOdVUsouEzQO/2VIA15bHnsdlcrLRhWjI+P4D2eApVHX1W647sqYHo K1EyT+PRYYDzpXsRHeETozwNk0LdajJYxdtPXKUK/nFV93cHL6+r5gXlCNlAS3Y5VflQ KtUI+px/svhxyX9Ipt16duMfpGISA6uc0UHtA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LdEEU/p9nVXCGeBsi2GuQDiz5o5O2Z3MK3FRLBQ3xJvvCxpHW2945GJ4He+Tw5fT4s O+20gcjOwHT/JNA64jrnNIsnvd2PaFEjGX81KIM/sAB7CIy8FQ53tTl9ZfLHuLW6Hl5i ItPY5sA7lgmKVtlWMOl+lRFKMiiYYHOnvK7h0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907081003r6a767c86s7a3d902f618ed2c@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907081003r6a767c86s7a3d902f618ed2c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:58:25 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: for our planned festival - distribution channels regarding "call for performers", legal advice regarding ancillary copyright From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163642749e5fc52f046e357c89 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:58:26 +0000 (UTC) --00163642749e5fc52f046e357c89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well-said, Rainer ... clearly the problem lies with the contract-side ... and Per, in your follow-up to this, American "copyright" is derived directly from English law. The problem is that it was codified in the in the US to a greater degree than elsewhere, and yes, there are an increasing number of conflicts arising out of this lately. US copyright is not a "contract" ... it is very close to the EU "artists' rights" concept, being based on the same very law. The problem lies in the fact that we (the US) talk about "copyright" and not about "artist's rights" because so much material has been given over to corporate ownership. It's all "intellectual property" at the end of the day ... Any of us participating need to be crystal clear about what is said in any existing contracts that we are party to ... whether in the EU/UK or the US. I, for one, would never consent to a contract that took away my rights of use ... we need to be vigilant about negotiating just what rights are covered in the contracts. Having said that, I would encourage us to reconsider the use of the AT-NC-ND license ... as I pointed out to Jeff in an off-list message, that gives quite a bit of clout. Here are the references I sent him: Here are some sites that give some good sound information on how it works = http://rising.blackstar.com/how-to-handle-a-copyright-switcheroo-on-flickr.html http://www.openarchitecturenetwork.org/licensing ("What if I change my mind" .. about half way down the page) http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ (same info) Yes, while the work is our there people can download it and share it ... BUT they are required to attribute it to you and cannot change or profit from it. You then have the right to withdraw the work and release it in traditional copyrighted form ... if those folks who downloaded it earlier, use it outside of the specifications of the license UNDER WHICH THEY DOWNLOADED IT, they are subject to recourse ... even years later and even if you have changed the license. The point is that you still have more control over the work than you think. If you have a contract, PLEASE look at it carefully and see what it spells out ... there is a reason that the lawyers get involved. A good lawyer is one who is your own personal pit bull. And contracts can be re-negotiated (if they can't, it's time to get a new one!) Here's a link to a discussion about negotiating the use of a CC license (yes, they are talking about books, but in this case, it still applies ... w just have to be sure and include issues like "performance rights") = http://www.mandiberg.com/2009/01/12/howto-negotiate-a-creative-commons-license-ten-steps/ Best, Dennis On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Dennis, > > thanks for your reply - but actually, you said what I was trying to > express myself: > > "We could still use a CC license for the performance of work not > previously covered by a contract (unless you have an agreement with a > rights organization to whom you have signed over the COPYRIGHT of all > your performances past and future, which even in this day and age > people are still signing!)." > > From what I understand (and I'm no lawyer myself, as you may have > guessed), your contract with a performing rights organisation may not > include handing over your copyright, but may very well include handing > over the management of your performing rights, and that for all of > your works you create while that contract is running. > > Which would mean that the organisation will charge a fee on any > distribution of your material with the possible exception of internet > transmission. Under that condition you could not publish anything > under by-nc-nd (or any other cc license) without violating that > contract. > > Rainer > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --00163642749e5fc52f046e357c89 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well-said, Rainer ... clearly the problem lies with the contract-side ... a= nd Per, in your follow-up to this, American "copyright" is derive= d directly from English law. The problem is that it was codified in the in = the US to a greater degree than elsewhere, and yes, there are an increasing= number of conflicts arising out of this lately. US copyright is not a &quo= t;contract" ... it is very close to the EU "artists' rights&q= uot; concept, being based on the same very law. The problem lies in the fac= t that we (the US) talk about "copyright" and not about "art= ist's rights" because so much material has been given over to corp= orate ownership. It's all "intellectual property" at the end = of the day ...

Any of us participating need to be crystal clear about what is said in = any existing contracts that we are party to ... whether in the EU/UK or the= US. I, for one, would never consent to a contract that took away my rights= of use ... we need to be vigilant about negotiating just what rights are c= overed in the contracts.

Having said that, I would encourage us to reconsider the use of the AT-= NC-ND license ... as I pointed out to Jeff in an off-list message, that giv= es quite a bit of clout. Here are the references I sent him:


Here are some sites that give some good sound information on how it works = =3D

http://rising.blackstar.com/h= ow-to-handle-a-copyright-switcheroo-on-flickr.html
http://www.openarchitecturenetwork.org/licensing ("What if I c= hange my mind" .. about half way down the page)
http://wiki.creativecommons.= org/FAQ (same info)

Yes, while the work is our there people can download it and share it ... BUT they are required to attribute it to you and cannot change or profit from it. You then have the right to withdraw the work and release it in traditional copyrighted form ... if those folks who downloaded it earlier, use it outside of the specifications of the license UNDER WHICH THEY DOWNLOADED IT, they are subject to recourse ... even years later and even if you have changed the license.

The point is that you still have more control over the work than you th= ink.

If you have a contract, PLEASE look at it carefully and see wha= t it spells out ... there is a reason that the lawyers get involved. A good= lawyer is one who is your own personal pit bull. And contracts can be re-n= egotiated (if they can't, it's time to get a new one!) Here's a= link to a discussion about negotiating the use of a CC license (yes, they = are talking about books, but in this case, it still applies ... w just have= to be sure and include issues like "performance rights") =3D

http://www.mandiberg.com/2009/01/12/howto-ne= gotiate-a-creative-commons-license-ten-steps/


Best,

Dennis




On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Rai= ner Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2= 04, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Dennis,

thanks for your reply - but actually, you said what I was trying to
express myself:

"We could still use a CC license for the performance of work not
previously covered by a contract (unless you have an agreement with a
rights organization to whom you have signed over the COPYRIGHT of all
your performances past and future, which even in this day and age
people are still signing!)."

From what I understand (and I'm no lawyer myself, as you may have=
guessed), your contract with a performing rights organisation may not
include handing over your copyright, but may very well include handing
over the management of your performing rights, and that for all of
your works you create while that contract is running.

Which would mean that the organisation will charge a fee on any
distribution of your material with the possible exception of internet
transmission. Under that condition you could not publish anything
under by-nc-nd (or any other cc license) without violating that
contract.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer




--
http://myspace.com/usrsbin
= http://audiozoloft.com=
http://usrsla= shsbin.angrek.com/
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 19:08:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AB553BE80; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 316 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:08:12 UTC Message-Id: <2802C753-CE39-4286-859E-C3DBD5249E81@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:02:50 -0700 References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> <004301c9ffbd$db0094c0$0301a8c0@A> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Server-Quench: f0d1ba64-6bf1-11de-98d8-002264978518 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwVVfTALAxpo UEhAUlBSHgVqCxkC SBwaTBhxdxtAcWBx ZkJ9XHVZWVt6Oxh7 SjRWVS5xZWZgYWQa HkNddAIaJgMef00U bFRiUiFbYHgGZy41 Wl5jM2B0ZW0FcnoJ E15dcAtCV3wGTHYE XR06Bzg3FFcIS20t NFpuC1sEBkEPM147 LVomX1scezsTFAAW O0ZKGC5fKBE5SjAl ChlfVEgVHSY1 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.pelican.dmpriest.net.uk:1562/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: <9YbI-D.A.vh.c6OVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:08:12 +0000 (UTC) This will be totally OT.... It always bugs me that some people in the classical establishment insist on compositions being played exactly as they are "supposed" to be....when it is only in our modern day age of recording that it is even possible to have concrete examples of what that "supposed" way is. its actually even worse recently because some young classical students i've met think that a cello piece can only be played the way that yo yo ma plays it in a certain recording. obviously i'm not talking about whole scale departures from a score, but phrasing, certain embelishments, tempo, etc. my 1st cello teacher in the US (i started in public school in the UK) was an early music specialist from yale who also played viola da gamba. as soon as all his students could vaguely play, we would meet on saturdays and play for half the day as a cello ensemble. he would have us play renaissance ensemble pieces by lassus and others. however, he would encourage us to embelish the parts and would teach us what kind of ornaments were appropriate in what situations. because that is what was done... all those interesting little ornaments that people love about baroque and renaissance music were not written in. as students got more advanced we would improvise more within those old pieces...as long as we got the chords right. ;-) and then those solo cadenzas in the middle of concertos, like haydn's C major cello concerto...they were MADE UP entirely by the soloist! kind of like a jazz solo. i'm not connected to the classical world anymore. i play a looped version of the 2nd mvt of beethoven's 7th symphony and it gets some classical people REALLY upset (just read the comments on a youtube recording of it) like they are personally offended by it. i tell them its a COVER of beethoven, and i can do as i damn well please ;-) as you can see i've got my toes in two different worlds.... rant over. On Jul 8, 2009, at 5:03 AM, Steve Bingham wrote: > > On 8 Jul 2009, at 12:18, Ricky Graham wrote: > >> Just on the note of Classical music being precomposed and Bach's >> name creeping up, let us not forget that while that may be >> predominantly the case that classical music is from the score, >> Bach's fugues, to my knowledge, and correct me if I am wrong but >> I'm pretty sure that I am correct on this, were exercises to >> improvise with. (check that out for a run on) > > > Absolutely: Bach was the great improviser. Personally I feel that a > successful performance of 'written' music is most often one where > the performer(s) allow spontaneous musical interpretation to be as > important as purely technical accuracy, thus bringing some elements > of improvisation to the piece. > > Steve > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 19:18:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB7213BE80; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <8B935ECE0154403EB9ACAF00874EA2DC@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> <004301c9ffbd$db0094c0$0301a8c0@A> <2802C753-CE39-4286-859E-C3DBD5249E81@zoekeating.com> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:18:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <6MJda.A.S4.9DPVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:18:21 +0000 (UTC) From: "Zoe Keating" > i'm not connected to the classical world anymore. i play a looped version > of the 2nd mvt of beethoven's 7th symphony and it gets some classical > people REALLY upset (just read the comments on a youtube recording of it) > like they are personally offended by it. i tell them its a COVER of > beethoven, and i can do as i damn well please ;-) Excellent! I agree with you wholly. I even see this ridiculous attitude in popular music. I've played with a few rock musicians in the past few years that have felt that if you don't play it exactly as recorded, then you have no right to play it. It is a ridiculous notion. I'm glad that you put your own style on the piece. It is not an insult to the composer or anybody else. It is simply an expression of yourself on the music. What is the point of 1000 musicians all playing the same piece exactly the same way? It serves no useful purpose. Keep doing what you are doing. There are a great many of us that appreciate what you do. Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 19:22:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E93E3BE80; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4YavPd9HhTpDSTlhOxf+wqotGmmHEkPqhFp/zPbIiTU=; b=pvxTmonB7a3Fm3bgfaepAr0PF0OfBnM4W2F5/1YEnPZ01+NQZLnTLy/PeqE284jFfF bTpU9Zhyzm6gXMJnUpQpiwJ91TPhCInwvjyhhroHa3toQdnXy8IV+IVNZYRcEwJ53siX 6H3VWPg+MIzP5i8xxLBFozFoKS7NRAx/snYCU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=OGqfUCv4iRWZP3HC4ikOMF73NC1Vcdanz8W+dv7C57pi/hqxzhtizLD7cJrzEBsnAo VtlOSy5KPfezRD7YbOZabsgXlpinwgGw3fav8ZqrcCrzvLHmHFgE/Ev+BbRvywcW2VGQ mcCtvBY8ZWaKyXUpaX6avHrwzJO3HL9tpYKJE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:21:59 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907081221n3aa42acexad55dcad63c7e9fc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Whow Rick, once again you managed to start a thread which has created some huge interest, resulting in some 25 replies in about 16 hours - and even hadn't time to respond myself. The "stir up some" obviously worked (though in my case, not necessarily "thought", more of "writing it down", which I had planned anyway for some time). So here I go... A: MY OWN POSITION ---------------------------------- Starting in 2000, all of the music I have performed for an audience or released in recorded format (including posting clips on the web) has been freely improvised (this meaning it had a composition index of "0", to use my metric defined below), both for solo and ensemble work. And although returning to composed music, at least in part, has been on my list for some time now, it hasn't happened with regard to releases or performances. During that time (and also before), I explored a lot of different possible formats for improvisation and also spent a lot of time simply thinking about improvisation in music. B: SOME THEORY ON IMPROVISATION: ATTEMPTS AT DEFINING A METRIC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------------- How do put a metric on improvisation? Is it true that if you play a through-composed work, nothing is improvised - and vice versa, if you don't follow anything written down (or otherwise specified) beforehand, then everything is improvised? A first thought in that direction will fall short, but is a good starting point. i) composition and performance. Let us assume that there are two indices, here named "composition" (C) and "performance" (P). "Composition" is just that - the stuff that the composer of the piece defined. "Performance" is what the performer makes of it - how much of his own ideas and interpretations are in the performance. Start out by defining that both indices are normalized to range from 0 to 1. Now it's obvious that a piece can't at the same time be "all composed" and "all improvised". So it makes sense to define an equation like C+P=3D1 (a piece can't be more than one piece). With that equation, a two-dimensional object reduced in dimensionality by one - geometrically thinking, a square is reduced to a line, on which you move from all left ("all composed") to all right ("all improvised"). ii) tradition and other effects This however falls short if you think about it: assume a typical bebop-rooted jazz player is performing, say, "A Night in Tunisia". He will start out by playing the theme (and add some ornaments to it, no doubt), before going into his solo. Now even if that bebop-rooted player will during his solo break completely move away from the melody and also the chords by Dizzy, he will still not be 100% improvising. Why? The way I thought this guy up (to be a bebop-rooted jazz cat), he will most probably play fast lines in syncopated rhythm, he will hint at some kind of turnaround at the end of the chorus, and he won't start to play quarter-tone sequences in 13/7. Thats because his performance is based on some tradtion - regarding that you play in some scales, in some rhythmic schemes, and think in some harmonic structures when playing a bebop standard. We found a new index, which call "tradition" (T). Including that into our normatory equation making it C+P+T=3D1, we get a three-dimensional system which by this condition is reduced to two. Again geometrically thinking, we have a cube, which gets projected to a triangle. (Note that in that discussion, "T" does not include the effect tradition has on the composer and on the composition - only the performance of the (improvising) player is under scrutinization). However, we can't stop there, and that becomes immediately clear to all of us who either have dealt with the aleatoric concepts of contemporary composers or used a random S/H filter effect: There are effects which are beyond the control of the performer, either because he wilfully gives away this control, or because he simply can't control them. There's lots of them - strings breaking, the acoustics of the venue, a hiccup suddenly developing. Although some of these effects aren't strictly that, I call them "aleatorics" (A). Again, incorporating them into our equation, we get a four-dimensional hypercube, projected onto a triangular pyramid. iii) what to do with it? This metric will by no means be able to describe all aspects of improvised music in any way, but rather, it has been very helpful for me when coming to terms with thoughts like "how much of this is improvised, how much is composed" etc. And by simply thinking about some works of art and trying to place them inside that pyramid, some understanding may surface. Like: is it possible to make music that is "all composed" (C=3D1, T=3DP=3DA=3D0)? You can get very close, think of "Studies for Player Piano" by Conlon Nancarrow or "Jazz from Hell" by Frank Zappa. But if you include a human being (and use a composition which hasn't been "programmed" by the composer), you automatically move towards the P corner of the pyramid. Take a piano sonata by Joseph Haydn, which may say "allegro". Now you can look that up in a book, and that book may tell you that it's "quite fast". How fast is quite fast? Another book may tell you (although that information can't be exactly validated) that it's somewhat beetween 120 and 168 bpm. In other words (to bring that to the world of dance music), play that sonata's first movement somewhere between house, tech house, hard house, cosmic, trance, jungle, rave and drum'n'bass. A work by Gustav Mahler may tell you to play it "rasch aber nicht gehetzt" (apace but not hounded) - and no book tells you what that is. And finally, taking a fugue from "Das Wohltemperierte Clavier" by Johann Sebastian Bach will tell you nothing at all. The choice is all yours (and so far, we've only talked about the overall tempo). Conversely, is it possible to make music that is "freely improvised" (P=3D1, C=3DT=3DA=3D0)? I rather doubt it. Yes, it's possible to bring A cl= ose to zero, and having no composition in place is simple, but the whole block of "tradition" (which also includes that a grand piano only offers specific pitches etc.) will always influence the player and thus the result. Completely aleatoric? Yes, you could use a random source and hook it to everything, but first, either composer or performer choose that "everything". C: RICK'S ORIGINAL MAIL (AND INCLUDING REFERENCES TO OTHER POSTS) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------------------------------------------- Let me just start with some dissent: "pre-rehearsed and already thought out pieces of music using live looping feel as sterile to me as people push playing on DATs, I-pods, CDs, DVDS or computers." To which I have to say that I found some creative DJ performances (aka "pushing play on CDs") very rewarding. "the last ten years or so of my life have been all improvisational." This is finally where I can bring the ramblings from section B to some use. From what I remember, this is not at all true. I take as one example the piece which opens the recording from Antwerp. Upon first listening to that recording, I thought "Hey - I like that tune!" You played that same composition (!) on June 11th 2008 at Pasinger Fabrik, about 21 minutes into your set - and a few other times on that tour as well. So you definitely don't have a C=3D0 index. And actually, your T index is very high. True, you don't play bebop runs, but you have created quite a fascinating array of "Rick Walker Tradition" you use all the time. So rather, I'd call your work "The Rick Walker Tradition (with improvised content and audience interaction)", rather than "improvised". (this is by no means intended to critizise what you do - rather to get into perspective how you use the word "improvised" and how I understand it. For me, "improvised" implies C=3D0). I really find your concept of playing with a clock to make the individual pieces be shorter to be interesting. "Interesting" in that context means I don't like it. Why? Specific pieces of music develop in a specific time frame. You have that starting idea - like that one three-tone motif with a chord - and then think about it further and it develops into a composition lasting four hours. Would it have worked if you put your seven-minute clock next to Richard Wagner when he wrote "Tristan und Isolde"? So if you believe that your pieces are too long (to which conclusion you may have come either because you or the audience get bored, or for some other reason), you should rather work on your creative process. (In the following, I assume you want to play shorter pieces, for whichever reason). First, thinking considerably in advance before you start playing (that's still going with that "C=3D0" approach) can help. How will that piece develop? And consequently, how can you make it work with your performance approach (including your looping gear)? Preprogramming stuff, as Kevin suggested, helps a great deal here. Also, Per is very active in that realm by writing complex scripts for Mobius to do complex looping maneuvers at the push of a button so he can make transitions in a few bars that otherwise would take considerably longer. Another thing: think about your gear and how you work with it. Say you have a repeating three-beat drum sequence on top of which you want to overdub a five-beat-long sequence. Now you could first play that first sequence five times into a loop, then overdub the second one three times. Or you could play that three-beat sequence once, then multiply and overdub the second one three times. Or you could play the first sequence once, then play the second one once onto another track. The time necessary for establishing that loop has been reduced to 1/3 of the original amount. Finally: change what you're playing. Only record two-beat-long loops and play on top of them for ten times. Extremely short song. This however, should all be preceded by making up your mind what you actually want to play. Perhaps your musical approach requires ten-minute+plus pieces. Perhaps you need to optimize so your audience doesn't get bored - perhaps you actually care. These are the things that should go first. And finally, I found that longer, more slowly developing pieces work better in a live than in a recorded context. If you're hit by that odd piece for the first time, it takes some time to get it - if it's on a CD, you listen to it repeatedly, after you already "got it". And for that reason, I find it perfectly ok to trim a live recording a little so that what felt good live also feels good on an album release. As the liner notes of one of Fripp's soundscape albums say: "nothing is left out - it just happens a little faster". And so (I'm getting carried away a little) - why don't you ask your pupils instead to first think why their pieces are of the length they are and if they feel right? D: COMMENTS ON SOME REPLIES ------------------------------------------------------ Yes, there had been a lot of jamming during Bach's time. This started with the fact that the continuo part (e.g. for a cembalo) - which somewhat was the "jazz piano" of that music, just in a leadshet, did not get an actual written-out part, rather a bass line with some numbers over it or a bass line and a melody - basically, a lead sheet. Check out recordings e.g. of Glenn Gould playing continuo on some ensemble works! Also, that endless repetitions of the main theme in works from that period start to make sense when you know that the musicians actually had to play improvised solo chorusses after the first time. Ted, I'm somewhat surprised that this pressure to "get it right" only hits you when you playing composed material. Why don't you feel pressured to get it right when you play improvised stuff? Or to stay with your metaphor - why can't you perform the compositions (your own ones or those of others) like a child? That "don't care" statement actually refers nicely to some other posts (and easily links back to the last section): I would not suggest that you play as if you don't care if you sound good or bad - rather you should play as if you don't care if you sound good or bad to the audience. And with that, such ideas to force yourself to never play longer than seven minutes suddenly disappear, because with that approach, you will stop anyway if it gets boring (to you). And Zoe, I believe that the classical stuff you play feel new because they aren't all composed beforehand as you say - the feel new because you make them something new everytime you play them (and if you wouldn't, your audience would most probably disappear anyway). Finally, there's that nice Mark Sottilaro vs. Rick Walker dialogue: Thanks, Mark! Although I don't agree with your post in the least, it's nice that at least someone for once gets away from that "we're such a supportive community so we must tell everyone every single time how great and inspiring that disposable sound menace is" approach of some institution caring for the challenged (for those with a good language background: what is the English translation of "besch=FCtzende Werkst=E4tte"?). I disagree with you in so far because you say that you prefer loopstation, Kid Beyond, Amy X Neuburg and Brian Kenney Fresno to all the other artists, and believe the reason is that these artists play composed material. The reason is that all of those are great stage personalities per se, and have obviously worked hard at their stage appearance independently of the musical content. How many of the artists not in your list do you believe do have a consciously laid out concept for their stage appearance, including clothing, how the walk and move, how they make use of lights etc.? Furthermore, Kid Beyond (at least what I remember of his work) plays a lot of cover tunes - which also makes people happy. Finally, all of the named examples sing, and "singing is a trick to get people to listen to music for longer than they would ordinarily" ("Stop Making Sense" liner notes). (I have to agree that Andre LaFosse doesn't fit into those categories, but Andre is just an oustanding composer and guitar/EDP player. Sometimes, that's enough. Another example in this category: Andreas Willers - at all costs go see him if you get the chance, he'll blow you away). Another great example in this category is Rick Walker. I have to admit (and Rick, you know I told you that in all friendship) that I don't like his music, in so far as I find it boring. This ist totally untrue for his live shows - I greatly and deeply enjoyed every single one of them, be it to a large crowd or to half a dozen people, be it his solo programme, some spontaneously created duo settings or his comments on a world championship soccer match. At least some of them were improvised - but they worked equally the same for me, because it was Rick being on stage and performing them. E: WHAT TO MAKE OF ALL OF THIS ------------------------------------------------------- So, what do we make of all of this? Most of my ramblings are rather inconclusive, but there are some messages: I. "Composed vs. Improvised" is not a simple as most people believe when they think about those two concepts, which seem complementary. II. "Composed" doesn't necessarily make a performance enjoyable. "Improvised" does not necessarily make it less enjoyable. III. Rick - please do some singer-songwriter stuff - looking forward to it! By my definition, you're doing composed stuff by a large percentage anyway. ;) IV. Great discussion - the messages are still coming. Yours, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 19:22:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB06C3BE7E; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:22:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5G4g04i1iZUeuL4eYjOgTchjuYs4mCF9zn4LlJ/+eg4=; b=WC6fP1kjxgMi3dvxPBkEFDkhRtmI++xrW8/rWPeddForGikqsBTUpqZ8l45J/bRLs9 aP7UjfTwD6oqagpiAnL9pSH8YMoiJqHqJdpqtnpQhHWkOptKKcDNRlKDm7df9zlZJvOQ wA+cOQYiUCT8p+bYxRN6CvhIcWU274KYOA6Zg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VtbAjgcXbXNOGqLfdxDhRpZaR5P8bk5LaWNhMVYuUUPy1kO+tdp5bsHTI/ZrdHxuAp pBJMoayuSXmM/cGgCldtS/ijFFmDV5I1f02g9z1YlJlVnXIKnknZTGGqyP30k5GJbVEQ VQp3S5nvusLfnsRo2anVGN4EJDHopmG8+dBqs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8B935ECE0154403EB9ACAF00874EA2DC@bobdell> References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> <004301c9ffbd$db0094c0$0301a8c0@A> <2802C753-CE39-4286-859E-C3DBD5249E81@zoekeating.com> <8B935ECE0154403EB9ACAF00874EA2DC@bobdell> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:22:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:22:48 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: > Excellent! =A0I agree with you wholly. =A0I even see this ridiculous atti= tude in > popular music. =A0I've played with a few rock musicians in the past few y= ears > that have felt that if you don't play it exactly as recorded, then you ha= ve > no right to play it. =A0It is a ridiculous notion. Imagine this conversation... "um, Mr. Hendrix, your version of Watchtower... well it's just NOT enough like Dylan's." --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 19:37:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BF383BE7F; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <99E2C77318954CB594C07B283EE3A838@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> <004301c9ffbd$db0094c0$0301a8c0@A> <2802C753-CE39-4286-859E-C3DBD5249E81@zoekeating.com> <8B935ECE0154403EB9ACAF00874EA2DC@bobdell> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:37:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <9_hGX.A.srB.NWPVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC) From: "Tony K" > "um, Mr. Hendrix, your version of Watchtower... well it's just NOT > enough like Dylan's." I love that. I laughed so hard when I read that. Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 19:42:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B8B13BE7E; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=q7Moxr5PJjG6IGp8zSrBh9HCvChbiEuuwh2FN7EKCJY=; b=pXwceUdT+XQFK7Yb5ohrCGKNJGTKkX7qv5BIg4l7qpB3ee+4L421UWgqqsGIBDV7fe EZBe1/oFILK2zj3Fem5494CmHMTjomHNDqtrL0nvnYrAtY+X5CW31W4OAQWKmyqLHLvD 0Ro52dhlkiIoI41HJnc5hR9IqPrTX7TrE2eDA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lTu3OZPkp9+ugaPepIjnyI/T4fHx8UmoOMyfeW3E7RaEotmJMjDIc6gqy92XMSCBNI fBegYAm5ZFgh+sQKdg67HqsFwVnYOcOHbUsefo9l3v/ahhK+M8/6tBwUfn+qhWAoccP8 9hnsBI0MNHDwtWN0OpEJGlUeEFI0K6YsL0RLw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <99E2C77318954CB594C07B283EE3A838@bobdell> References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> <004301c9ffbd$db0094c0$0301a8c0@A> <2802C753-CE39-4286-859E-C3DBD5249E81@zoekeating.com> <8B935ECE0154403EB9ACAF00874EA2DC@bobdell> <99E2C77318954CB594C07B283EE3A838@bobdell> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:42:08 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636426f43423304046e36ef14 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 19:42:09 +0000 (UTC) --001636426f43423304046e36ef14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Uhm, Mr. Dylan ... your version of Watchtower, it's just enough like Jimi's." It's all a matter of perspective ... :D Dennis On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: > From: "Tony K" > >> "um, Mr. Hendrix, your version of Watchtower... well it's just NOT >> enough like Dylan's." >> > > I love that. I laughed so hard when I read that. > > Bob Amstadt > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --001636426f43423304046e36ef14 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Uhm, Mr. Dylan ... your version of Watchtower, it's just enough l= ike Jimi's."

It's all a matter of perspective ... :D
Dennis

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From: "Tony = K" <bigtony= k@gmail.com>

"um, Mr. Hendrix, your version of Watchtower... well it's just NOT=
enough like Dylan's."

I love that. =A0I laughed so hard when I read that.

Bob Amstadt




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--001636426f43423304046e36ef14-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 21:12:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 944173BE79; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [64.231.21.48] X-Originating-Email: [vaneyck@sympatico.ca] Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:12:13 -0400 From: Trevor Van Eyck User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: For the JamMan Users out there... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jul 2009 21:12:15.0879 (UTC) FILETIME=[C50B0170:01CA0010] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Greetings all, Anyone out there still using the Lexicon JamMan? The archives do have information on the following issues but they are quite dated, so I thought I might try here (sorry to clog up your inboxes!). I was curious about: a) Non-Midi Foot Switches: I've been using the Boss FS-5U and it's really hard to get the loop points tight without a lot of work. Anyone found a good alternative? b) Midi Foot Switches: is there a really simple (and ideally) pretty small MIDI pedal with 2-4 switches that works well with the JamMan? Would that alleviate the problem I described above? c) Memory Expansion chips: Anyone located the chips at a good price lately? Or is eBay my best bet? They appear fairly regular for about $40+ Shipping. Any opinions are quite welcome. Thanks in advance! TREVOR. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 21:34:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DDF53BE77; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:34:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 488 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:34:49 UTC Message-ID: <002301ca0012$d0436710$6401a8c0@stacy> From: "stacey young" To: References: Subject: Re: For the JamMan Users out there... Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:26:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:34:49 +0000 (UTC) Hey Trevor, I have some memory chips to sell for the Jam man if you want. I'll do $35.00 plus shipping. Let me know!! Stace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Van Eyck" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:12 PM Subject: For the JamMan Users out there... > > Greetings all, > > Anyone out there still using the Lexicon JamMan? The archives do have > information on the following issues but they are quite dated, so I > thought I might try here (sorry to clog up your inboxes!). > > I was curious about: > > a) Non-Midi Foot Switches: I've been using the Boss FS-5U and it's > really hard to get the loop points tight without a lot of work. Anyone > found a good alternative? > > b) Midi Foot Switches: is there a really simple (and ideally) pretty > small MIDI pedal with 2-4 switches that works well with the JamMan? > Would that alleviate the problem I described above? > > c) Memory Expansion chips: Anyone located the chips at a good price > lately? Or is eBay my best bet? They appear fairly regular for about > $40+ Shipping. > > Any opinions are quite welcome. Thanks in advance! > > TREVOR. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 21:37:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B33C93BE79; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1247089022; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=13i7OegBoRttcw8lRDjafGwlM8M=; b=p+NdIk6FrdULo0B+i9rQdKvHUw77jog8OxpXNGaBsWQJ3aCNX6nb6q3ozSoyj30q y6zXTftb05wR8q3/RGFktO1kxkrc4MatTFL0IWsBYuuDvGi23BJ7feCFF/d2XkIr; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ymXEk-A78AAA:10 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=MZwQBe6CAAAA:8 a=ns88aCgmnmXxbGbYYSUA:9 a=vrjelH622a-sC_5tXhP-No0BD1wA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:37:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Embarq Customer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <619468049.1008171247089022158.JavaMail.root@md18.embarq.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Mahavishnu Project Gig Spam MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [173.133.116.125] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.11_GA_2696.RHEL4 (zclient/5.0.11_GA_2696.RHEL4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:37:02 +0000 (UTC) I just ran across this. The Mahavishnu Project is streaming live via Ustream tonight. Time is reported as 4:00 PM PDT. About an hour and a half from now. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sudden-presentations peace out, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 8 22:38:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B36923BE7C; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 22:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: fWraYdwVM1kbmnekfVOHhWvbqgrel2o85T7IXcT0MDdCVlAEWSF3mNCukTT.am6RGENTYD1Fid4DAhigY.7pT7P75jQdjPNBrrsR_YGtFDRe_X7HgcwY4NMRDdIl8Fden4Nr_4s2M60rffQRhC9Oi2v2ShNkMRGaR6oHAv8Za8GiBYm6iQhSHOBkPuVvIWx0vd6.GSS6RJ3DgsHJoaZ5jh7d41JD9lKfNKrCpEEvwkGG7Y1jmKekK4d1z9QVAjXzknARud_5PqfTTUefDknkio1629Fe.j7Nh3Y9wcsH4taXrvvCA3fHA1i7WSz5IJhdaiadxwuqHFfMGH5VdecdK9bJjNrmiygSDxk- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <001701ca001c$c4459820$0301a8c0@A> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> <004301c9ffbd$db0094c0$0301a8c0@A> <2802C753-CE39-4286-859E-C3DBD5249E81@zoekeating.com> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 23:38:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 22:38:10 +0000 (UTC) A common misconception that is still prevalent in music education. It is something that I feel should be flagged as a problem in academia. This segregation of composer and performer and how deeply frustrating it can be to hear a 'traditional' musician speak of the performer as merely a medium for a composer (a seperate, unrelated entity to their mind) to have their work realised. It's bullshit. Something or someone miscontrued this somewhere along the way, and the ignornant followed suit. Thankfully, some are calling for a redefinition of composer and performer. Ultimately, inextricably linked but somewhat far apart in eyes of those of a parochial nature. It comes down to nothing more that absolute arrogance. But then who I am to question the composer who wants his piece performed in a certain manner? :) Lazy (insert-insult-here), perform it yourself. I jest and digress but might add that for a composer who composes music for someone to perform and not identify with on a unique or personal level as a performer is an idiot and worthy of paddling. It misses the point of live performance and they might as well record it and play it back on their iHome for all eternity, as is. I think improvisation is the barrier breaker in this instance, which is why it is so special, but unfortunately its definition already carries substantial baggage. But I think this is changing for the better..(famous last words) presenting the idea of a composer and performer as one, at one time, in one musical instance. Brilliant. Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zoe Keating" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances > This will be totally OT.... > > It always bugs me that some people in the classical establishment > insist on compositions being played exactly as they are "supposed" to > be....when it is only in our modern day age of recording that it is > even possible to have concrete examples of what that "supposed" way > is. its actually even worse recently because some young classical > students i've met think that a cello piece can only be played the way > that yo yo ma plays it in a certain recording. > > obviously i'm not talking about whole scale departures from a score, > but phrasing, certain embelishments, tempo, etc. > > my 1st cello teacher in the US (i started in public school in the UK) > was an early music specialist from yale who also played viola da > gamba. as soon as all his students could vaguely play, we would meet > on saturdays and play for half the day as a cello ensemble. he would > have us play renaissance ensemble pieces by lassus and others. > however, he would encourage us to embelish the parts and would teach > us what kind of ornaments were appropriate in what situations. because > that is what was done... all those interesting little ornaments that > people love about baroque and renaissance music were not written in. > as students got more advanced we would improvise more within those old > pieces...as long as we got the chords right. ;-) and then those solo > cadenzas in the middle of concertos, like haydn's C major cello > concerto...they were MADE UP entirely by the soloist! kind of like a > jazz solo. > > i'm not connected to the classical world anymore. i play a looped > version of the 2nd mvt of beethoven's 7th symphony and it gets some > classical people REALLY upset (just read the comments on a youtube > recording of it) like they are personally offended by it. i tell them > its a COVER of beethoven, and i can do as i damn well please ;-) > > as you can see i've got my toes in two different worlds.... > > rant over. > > On Jul 8, 2009, at 5:03 AM, Steve Bingham wrote: > >> >> On 8 Jul 2009, at 12:18, Ricky Graham wrote: >> >>> Just on the note of Classical music being precomposed and Bach's >>> name creeping up, let us not forget that while that may be >>> predominantly the case that classical music is from the score, >>> Bach's fugues, to my knowledge, and correct me if I am wrong but >>> I'm pretty sure that I am correct on this, were exercises to >>> improvise with. (check that out for a run on) >> >> >> Absolutely: Bach was the great improviser. Personally I feel that a >> successful performance of 'written' music is most often one where >> the performer(s) allow spontaneous musical interpretation to be as >> important as purely technical accuracy, thus bringing some elements >> of improvisation to the piece. >> >> Steve >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 00:31:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E7803BE8A; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 00:31:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:31:23 -0700 Message-ID: <3E076E21A3E64E3895831314D80C28E4@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C9FFF1.ED68A830" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoALJZS2TchqfAcRca68Xf+uVHORQ== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 00:31:28 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C9FFF1.ED68A830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit " i'm not connected to the classical world anymore. i play a looped version of the 2nd mvt of beethoven's 7th symphony and it gets some classical people REALLY upset (just read the comments on a youtube recording of it) like they are personally offended by it. i tell them its a COVER of beethoven, and i can do as i damn well please ;-) as you can see I've got my toes in two different worlds.... rant over." You Go Girl!, Musical Fascism comes in many forms. There are classical Nazis, Jazz Nazis, Blues Nazis, you name it. You will find purists in every genre. Unfortunately sometimes they can even be very accomplished musicians who just happen to resist change as being inherently bad. Your world frightens them Zoe, you and your one woman techno chamber orchestra:-) That's just someone's insecurity talking. There are always going to be people who resist innovation and exploration, The haters of the new and different, hey, they rioted for Stravinsky, consider it a red badge of courage that you are pushing buttons. I don't know why people insist on having their sacred cows, but there is much about humanity that I find crazy making. I think the best way to honor a song I am covering is to render it from a fresh perspective, even if it means deconstructing it entirely. To do a song precisely as written is fine and a great way to develop one's technical accuracy, but it isn't infusing your own personality in to it. Otherwise why do it at all? I have mixed feelings about doing covers in the first place, probably from too many bar band gigs over the years. Also doing covers represents a sort of musical tyranny to me, as if that is what we must do as musicians to "relate" to our audience, because somehow the audience won't be able to relate to us otherwise. I have been messing around with more covers recently, but they tend to be obscure enough that most people don't notice. I haven't had too many people recognize " Memories of Tomorrow" by Keith Jarret, or Ralph Towner's "the reluctant bride" but that probably has as much to do with how imperfectly I play them :-) I personally have adopted a performance style that involves an equal mixture of musical templates and pure improvisation. The templates will consist of a key or tuning, an instrument of choice, and some basic A B structures, what effects or looping techniques I might choose to feature, the mood, etc. Some of these templates evolve in to more structured composition, but for the most part the form is improvised from performance to performance. So in essence, I'll story board the performance, but everything is essentially improvised, even though I am often times improvising on familiar themes and progressions. I guess you could call it comprovisation. Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C9FFF1.ED68A830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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i'm not connected = to the classical world anymore. i play a looped version of the 2nd mvt of = beethoven's 7th symphony and it gets some classical people REALLY upset (just read = the comments on a youtube recording of it) like they are personally offended = by it. i tell them its a COVER of beethoven, and i can do as i damn well please = ;-)

 

as you can see I've = got my toes in two different worlds....

 

rant = over.”

 

 

You Go Girl!,

 Musical Fascism comes in many forms. There are classical Nazis, Jazz Nazis, Blues Nazis, you name it. You will find = purists in every genre. Unfortunately sometimes they can even be very accomplished musicians who just happen to resist change as being inherently bad. Your = world frightens them Zoe, you and your one woman techno chamber = orchestraJ That’s just someone’s insecurity talking.  There are always going to = be people who resist innovation and exploration, The haters of the new and different, hey, they rioted for Stravinsky, consider it a red badge of = courage that you are pushing buttons. I don’t know why people insist on = having their sacred cows, but there is much about humanity that I find crazy = making.  I think the best way to honor a song I am covering is to render it from a = fresh perspective, even if it means deconstructing it entirely. To do a song = precisely as written is fine and a great way to develop one’s technical = accuracy, but it isn’t infusing your own personality in to it. =  Otherwise why do it at all?  I have mixed feelings about doing covers in the = first place, probably from too many bar band gigs over the years. Also doing = covers represents a sort of musical tyranny to me, as if that is what we must = do as musicians to “relate” to our audience, because somehow the = audience won’t be able to relate to us otherwise.  I have been messing = around with more covers recently, but they tend to be obscure enough that most = people don’t notice. I haven’t had too many people recognize = “ Memories of Tomorrow” by Keith Jarret, or Ralph Towner’s = “the reluctant bride” but that probably has as much to do with how = imperfectly I play them J   I personally = have adopted a performance style that involves an equal mixture of musical = templates and pure improvisation. The templates will consist of a key or tuning, = an instrument of choice, and some basic A B structures, what effects or = looping techniques I might choose to feature, the mood, etc. Some of these = templates evolve in to more structured composition, but for the most part the form is = improvised from performance to performance. So in essence, I’ll story board = the performance, but everything is essentially improvised, even though I am = often times improvising on familiar themes and progressions.  I guess you = could call it comprovisation.

Bill

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On Jul 8, 2009, at 5:31 PM, "William Walker" <billwalker@baymoon.com> 

 Musical Fascism comes in many forms. There are classical Nazis, Jazz Nazis, Blues Nazis, you name it. You will find purists in every genre. 

Don't forget the loop nazis, who hate the precomposed loop piece, or the prerecorded loop. --Apple-Mail-2-357511106-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 00:52:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 598793BE7E; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 00:52:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:52:14 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1247100333; bh=WEQHhP79/NuiCQTNKGa9T9U314hv94IaB7oqPY2AcNs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NDjDASI1yiV1JRBVdpZOO4UshgDBqO/GYjTLPLjIpXmcMxJ3KUA5PvZ4WCzd0yAWlo+ybE0k8OjgG+JQltIt0p9t8Z4qkMGe4z78QYV+zTkc1FD8IQ9QMVZyvj2GoidQhSPVciGkfOQFm38oIUlO+c1g0qiELHOccoNypVTd6Bw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jgd6AJ0YhKzMH9VJsfIF8aak3Irq+24eiV9EsoPg83xQsQO/UUXPGsZsWULrxoCJf6WA2XbAxRk1RKqZRaBTOSAt4Qt1RvwQ5kNJ85RMn2uDPSaleqCBMNprFYGMG4HaglNbfhYR52N8b0e+PW68OhagHJMk57gMUBx04n+vjas=; Message-ID: <323060.22230.qm@web32705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0w4KZMcVM1nvCawjhd9eksyrfGrK5dCOfZbR7gKCfOgQ.m41KRIPUUYvwMp8Y2qqphXJQ77O7O6GaRECAmafZ5BBqIvpVmu6FMddP86UteXgk2IW6oenbUvogPfOa3wbKwb8lFga5qsXX0DRh1lLP2r2uW8g6UO5vlhUe2dIlH8BGpd0yNBQAGtJ_0HWxpun2dROxGzap8zjsvrHo72RS5sdWjk3S6pbmn_lh0rc_EGjL645Fh99smE.vT8HqaonvF3jnfaBlu4hFRZTEud5t6_bpl5UeHfzgXEdLqxl8cZzoXpH6YlAq23lk.FwISPnWyhG5dgBMSCO9au7ECgtLLe0y8hgenFE3Ifxxw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:45:33 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: FS: Alesis AirFX $125 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 00:52:15 +0000 (UTC) Howdy,=0A=0A I,m interested if you still have it. /Thanx.=0ARig=0A=0A--- On= Wed, 7/8/09, legion@helpwantedproductions.com wrote:=0A=0A> From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com =0A> Subject: FS: Alesis AirFX $125=0A> To: "Loopers De= light" , "AH" = =0A> Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 11:49 AM=0A> =0A> Selling one Alesis AI= RFX theremin style effects unit. Very=0A> unique=0A> interface and sounds. = This can be mounted on a mic stand or=0A> sit on the=0A> floor or tabletop.= It's operated by waving your hand (or=0A> foot or *any*=0A> part of your b= ody) over the top X/Y/Z plane like a=0A> theremin. Runs off it's=0A> own po= wer supply (included).=0A> =0A> 40 Effects patches including filters, flang= er, phasers,=0A> Delays, pitch=0A> shifter, bitrate reducer, etc etc plus t= en Synthesizer=0A> sounds including=0A> drum kits (a different sound for ea= ch place in the air=0A> above the unit) and=0A> classic horror, theremin so= unds, Synth waveforms, etc. Hold=0A> function as=0A> well and two digit eas= y to see LED.=0A> =0A> A VERY cool unit and 100% working and in excellent s= hape.=0A> Full info here:=0A> http://www.alesis.com/contentmgr/showdetails.= php/id/1403/tt/5=0A> =0A> Asking $125 plus paypal fees and shipping. Pickup= in Phila=0A> Pa welcome.=0A> -- =0A> =A0=A0=A0----------------------------= --------------------=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and= =0A> Art:=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com=0A> =0A>= =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 03:10:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD1293BE72; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 03:10:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 491 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:10:21 UTC Message-Id: From: Ancient Eyeball Recipe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <323060.22230.qm@web32705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: updating a looperlative Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:02:08 -0700 References: <323060.22230.qm@web32705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 03:10:21 +0000 (UTC) > Sorry - just incensed right now that updating this damn thing (that I just received used) seems to require somewhat expert networking knowledge. I'm getting absolutely nowhere on my mac g5. I simply cannot upgrade the software. I figure that there must be some looperlative users here, and some of them must be mac users, and maybe there might be someone who can actually help me. I was really looking to do this tonight, though I suppose it isn't necessary, now it's become an obsessions. Obsessions are ugly. Thanks, Gene From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 04:26:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 966B53BE7C; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 04:26:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <323060.22230.qm@web32705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: updating a looperlative Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:26:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <8CjtUD.A.71D.qFXVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 04:26:18 +0000 (UTC) Gene, I don't know where you are located but if you are interested in over the telephone help. Give me a call. I'm in the office most days and if I'm not, I'll call you back. Are you trying to connect it directly to your Mac? Is your Mac on a network? Can the LP1 be attached to the network? I'm happy to help you. Email or call me. Bob Amstadt Looperlative Audio Products bob@looperlative.com 408-921-LOOP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ancient Eyeball Recipe" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: updating a looperlative > > > > Sorry - just incensed right now that updating this damn thing (that I > just received used) seems to require somewhat expert networking > knowledge. I'm getting absolutely nowhere on my mac g5. I simply cannot > upgrade the software. > > I figure that there must be some looperlative users here, and some of > them must be mac users, and maybe there might be someone who can actually > help me. I was really looking to do this tonight, though I suppose it > isn't necessary, now it's become an obsessions. Obsessions are ugly. > > Thanks, > Gene > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 04:48:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 793AA3BE73; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 04:48:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Ancient Eyeball Recipe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: updating a looperlative X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:47:59 -0700 References: <323060.22230.qm@web32705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: <1U1UxB.A.kcE.BaXVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 04:48:01 +0000 (UTC) Hi Bob - just responded on the looperlative forum. I figured that you wouldn't be crazy enough to be supporting your product this late, so I emailed this list.... But - I got it working. I think - without retesting every possibility that the issue was that I had left the router ip address typed into the looperlative ip address field when I did the upgrade? At least that was the immediate issue, because when I zeroed it out again, the upgrade worked immediately. > Gene, > > I don't know where you are located but if you are interested in over > the telephone help. Give me a call. I'm in the office most days > and if I'm not, I'll call you back. > > Are you trying to connect it directly to your Mac? Is your Mac on a > network? Can the LP1 be attached to the network? > > I'm happy to help you. Email or call me. > > Bob Amstadt > Looperlative Audio Products > bob@looperlative.com > 408-921-LOOP > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ancient Eyeball Recipe" > > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:02 PM > Subject: updating a looperlative > > >> > >> >> Sorry - just incensed right now that updating this damn thing (that >> I just received used) seems to require somewhat expert networking >> knowledge. I'm getting absolutely nowhere on my mac g5. I simply >> cannot upgrade the software. >> >> I figure that there must be some looperlative users here, and some >> of them must be mac users, and maybe there might be someone who >> can actually help me. I was really looking to do this tonight, >> though I suppose it isn't necessary, now it's become an >> obsessions. Obsessions are ugly. >> >> Thanks, >> Gene >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 04:54:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B1B23BE73; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 04:54:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <69D36FBED0C54A108A6979F8F09ECAC4@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <323060.22230.qm@web32705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: updating a looperlative Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:54:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 04:54:50 +0000 (UTC) From: "Ancient Eyeball Recipe" > Hi Bob - just responded on the looperlative forum. I figured that you > wouldn't be crazy enough to be supporting your product this late, so I > emailed this list.... > > But - I got it working. I think Excellent. Glad you got it worked out. As for me, I'm totally insane. ;-) Ok, maybe not, but I often check email in the evenings and will answer support questions. I won't often answer the phone at night, but with email you have a fair chance of catching me. Let me know if you have any other issues and I will do my best to help you. Bob Amstadt Looperlative Audio Products From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 05:25:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4718D3BE78; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 05:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <74FE5C55-940B-4C04-9190-0F898E3843B0@grubmah.com> From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3E076E21A3E64E3895831314D80C28E4@williamsteed> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 22:25:14 -0700 References: <3E076E21A3E64E3895831314D80C28E4@williamsteed> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <1j7e6.A.hnF.98XVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 05:25:17 +0000 (UTC) I play around periodically with established melodies -- Shenandoah at a couple of festivals, Venus in Furs at Y2K8 -- but I use them just as jumping off points. 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 08:52:51 +0000 (UTC) Since no one reacted to Ricky Grahams post yesterday I would just like to state that I think it is a very good thing that people can focus on composing and get credited for that. A person doesn't chose to work with composing because he/she can't play! The point in scores is to come together as an ensemble to realize sounding music that can't be created in any other way. The groundbreaking Escalator Over The Hill wouldn't exist if Carla Bley had not composed it, that's just one example. I had the chance to sit down for an hour and talk to Elliot Sharp about his composing and I think it makes total sense to regard the ensemble as "his instrument". I was amazed to find out that in his scoring for these ensembles he is using the same tricks as I do in looping and dynamic effect processing. But when working with a real ensemble you are also able to take advantage of using this cool parameter called "musician's interpretation". Sharp scores stuff like "random loop slicing" and sets up alternative choices for each player to give the ensemble music ("the composition") generative abilities similar to DNA evolution. The music evolves on its own, like life does, by the design of his composition. I don't think he is a music nazi ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 09:24:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7E113BE78; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 09:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1247131459; bh=DNFESPOH1Otm0hMQZQGpTfhpGlVWlpUBHSy6kuGbUW4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Wu2DStGg1W2ea6UWbveQaMTJVEnnJBk22CSPrBsxeTjtWmbEAUrnC6C5XiXoHDbPKSVs7T8lfcd4ktCHnEmKdnC52lHyHAap5Lt/tI+EJOSSm/Z5t+mp8YIg3JyMQARC0JLINxdDrtYUchcevCxfXNXuQRgmM2nHIpj8drLqKRg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=l8FH4oCEDIQ3jdGdF1qdyu0jRiHiVNf/u4xS8gqbNNqzTHt6mOFC0OKoFHcqE2EcXq0Z7cpjcHOuxAbJhzntp+RYQ33MOV7ImpDR3ZqHIG9E06I/7O1j77mV1qxiFUxqePiVfvNt4BE47FRnRcIT8ZcomRLPAMmKlpRdpZ/BTG4=; Message-ID: <472249.88107.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 09:24:18 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 09:24:20 +0000 (UTC) very interesting thread,i ve observed in the loop festivals that ive attend= ed so far a lot of loopers have repeated their ideas and it doesnt bother m= e at all, specially if i like the music,is like listening to a tune on the = radio and wanting to hear it again.But i tend to get bored very quickly wit= h the eternal improvisation that just doesnt say anything.In looping i pers= onally tend to prepare my equipment more than the music so that it doesnt f= uck up on stage which is irritating to see and no less for an audience that= has paid a ticket! this might even come across for them as an amateur or u= nprofessional show,so yes i encourage loopers to prepare! =0AAlso pre-conce= ived sketches of music to improvise to on stage is not a sin but rather a g= reat way to develop something unique everytime you perform and keep your im= provs more focused as it will always sound different anyway.So improvisatio= n vs. prepared is not really an issue for me,it just depends on the creativ= ity involved.=0AI have seen people using prepared drum loops in their music= sounding very sterile and boring and ive seen people using them in a very = exciting way( Michael Peters comes to mind who did a beautiful piece using = a drum loop which turned out to be my favorite at the Y2k9 in Antwerp)=0AFo= r me seeing somebody buid up a drum loop with their mouth doesnt make it an= y better or special if i dislike their music as somebody using a drum sampl= e whose music i like.And for a non musical audience all this stuff is compl= etely irrelevant anyway as they are there to be entertained;-)=0A=0A=0ALuis= =0A=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A--- Rai= ner Straschill schrieb am Mi, 8.7.2009:=0A=0A> V= on: Rainer Straschill =0A> Betreff: PrePrepared v= s. Improvisational Live Looping Performances=0A> An: loopers-delight@looper= s-delight.com=0A> Datum: Mittwoch, 8. Juli 2009, 12:21=0A> Whow Rick,=0A> = =0A> once again you managed to start a thread which has created=0A> some hu= ge=0A> interest, resulting in some 25 replies in about 16 hours -=0A> and e= ven=0A> hadn't time to respond myself. The "stir up some" obviously=0A> wor= ked=0A> (though in my case, not necessarily "thought", more of=0A> "writing= it=0A> down", which I had planned anyway for some time). So here I=0A> go.= ..=0A> =0A> =0A> A: MY OWN POSITION=0A> ----------------------------------= =0A> Starting in 2000, all of the music I have performed for an=0A> audienc= e or=0A> released in recorded format (including posting clips on the=0A> we= b) has=0A> been freely improvised (this meaning it had a composition=0A> in= dex of=0A> "0", to use my metric defined below), both for solo and=0A> ense= mble work.=0A> And although returning to composed music, at least in part,= =0A> has been=0A> on my list for some time now, it hasn't happened with=0A>= regard to=0A> releases or performances. During that time (and also=0A> bef= ore), I=0A> explored a lot of different possible formats for=0A> improvisat= ion and=0A> also spent a lot of time simply thinking about=0A> improvisatio= n in music.=0A> =0A> =0A> B: SOME THEORY ON IMPROVISATION: ATTEMPTS AT DEFI= NING A=0A> METRIC=0A> -----------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------------------------------------=0A> How do = put a metric on improvisation? Is it true that if=0A> you play a=0A> throug= h-composed work, nothing is improvised - and vice=0A> versa, if you=0A> don= 't follow anything written down (or otherwise=0A> specified)=0A> beforehand= , then everything is improvised? A first thought=0A> in that=0A> direction = will fall short, but is a good starting point.=0A> =0A> i) composition and = performance.=0A> Let us assume that there are two indices, here named=0A> "= composition" (C)=0A> and "performance" (P). "Composition" is just that - th= e=0A> stuff that the=0A> composer of the piece defined. "Performance" is wh= at the=0A> performer=0A> makes of it - how much of his own ideas and interp= retations=0A> are in the=0A> performance. Start out by defining that both i= ndices are=0A> normalized to=0A> range from 0 to 1.=0A> Now it's obvious th= at a piece can't at the same time be=0A> "all composed"=0A> and "all improv= ised". So it makes sense to define an=0A> equation like=0A> C+P=3D1 (a piec= e can't be more than one piece). With that=0A> equation, a=0A> two-dimensio= nal object reduced in dimensionality by one -=0A> geometrically thinking, a= square is reduced to a line, on=0A> which you=0A> move from all left ("all= composed") to all right ("all=0A> improvised").=0A> =0A> ii) tradition and= other effects=0A> This however falls short if you think about it: assume a= =0A> typical=0A> bebop-rooted jazz player is performing, say, "A Night in= =0A> Tunisia". He=0A> will start out by playing the theme (and add some orn= aments=0A> to it, no=0A> doubt), before going into his solo. Now even if th= at=0A> bebop-rooted=0A> player will during his solo break completely move a= way from=0A> the melody=0A> and also the chords by Dizzy, he will still not= be 100%=0A> improvising.=0A> Why? The way I thought this guy up (to be a b= ebop-rooted=0A> jazz cat), he=0A> will most probably play fast lines in syn= copated rhythm, he=0A> will hint=0A> at some kind of turnaround at the end = of the chorus, and he=0A> won't=0A> start to play quarter-tone sequences in= 13/7. Thats because=0A> his=0A> performance is based on some tradtion - re= garding that you=0A> play in=0A> some scales, in some rhythmic schemes, and= think in some=0A> harmonic=0A> structures when playing a bebop standard. W= e found a new=0A> index, which=0A> call "tradition" (T). Including that int= o our normatory=0A> equation=0A> making it C+P+T=3D1, we get a three-dimens= ional system which=0A> by this=0A> condition is reduced to two. Again geome= trically thinking,=0A> we have a=0A> cube, which gets projected to a triang= le.=0A> (Note that in that discussion, "T" does not include the=0A> effect= =0A> tradition has on the composer and on the composition - only=0A> the=0A= > performance of the (improvising) player is under=0A> scrutinization).=0A>= =0A> However, we can't stop there, and that becomes immediately=0A> clear = to=0A> all of us who either have dealt with the aleatoric concepts=0A> of= =0A> contemporary composers or used a random S/H filter effect:=0A> There a= re=0A> effects which are beyond the control of the performer,=0A> either be= cause=0A> he wilfully gives away this control, or because he simply=0A> can= 't=0A> control them. There's lots of them - strings breaking, the=0A> acous= tics=0A> of the venue, a hiccup suddenly developing.=0A> Although some of t= hese effects aren't strictly that, I call=0A> them=0A> "aleatorics" (A). Ag= ain, incorporating them into our=0A> equation, we get=0A> a four-dimensiona= l hypercube, projected onto a triangular=0A> pyramid.=0A> =0A> iii) what to= do with it?=0A> This metric will by no means be able to describe all=0A> a= spects of=0A> improvised music in any way, but rather, it has been very=0A>= helpful for=0A> me when coming to terms with thoughts like "how much of=0A= > this is=0A> improvised, how much is composed" etc. And by simply=0A> thin= king about=0A> some works of art and trying to place them inside that=0A> p= yramid, some=0A> understanding may surface.=0A> Like: is it possible to mak= e music that is "all composed"=0A> (C=3D1,=0A> T=3DP=3DA=3D0)? You can get = very close, think of "Studies for=0A> Player Piano"=0A> by Conlon Nancarrow= or "Jazz from Hell" by Frank Zappa. But=0A> if you=0A> include a human bei= ng (and use a composition which hasn't=0A> been=0A> "programmed" by the com= poser), you automatically move=0A> towards the P=0A> corner of the pyramid.= =0A> Take a piano sonata by Joseph Haydn, which may say=0A> "allegro". Now = you=0A> can look that up in a book, and that book may tell you that=0A> it'= s=0A> "quite fast". How fast is quite fast? Another book may tell=0A> you= =0A> (although that information can't be exactly validated) that=0A> it's= =0A> somewhat beetween 120 and 168 bpm. In other words (to bring=0A> that t= o=0A> the world of dance music), play that sonata's first=0A> movement some= where=0A> between house, tech house, hard house, cosmic, trance,=0A> jungle= , rave=0A> and drum'n'bass. A work by Gustav Mahler may tell you to=0A> pla= y it=0A> "rasch aber nicht gehetzt" (apace but not hounded) - and no=0A> bo= ok tells=0A> you what that is. And finally, taking a fugue from "Das=0A> Wo= hltemperierte Clavier" by Johann Sebastian Bach will tell=0A> you=0A> nothi= ng at all. The choice is all yours (and so far, we've=0A> only talked=0A> a= bout the overall tempo).=0A> =0A> Conversely, is it possible to make music = that is "freely=0A> improvised"=0A> (P=3D1, C=3DT=3DA=3D0)? I rather doubt = it. Yes, it's possible to=0A> bring A close=0A> to zero, and having no comp= osition in place is simple, but=0A> the whole=0A> block of "tradition" (whi= ch also includes that a grand=0A> piano only=0A> offers specific pitches et= c.) will always influence the=0A> player and=0A> thus the result. Completel= y aleatoric? Yes, you could use a=0A> random=0A> source and hook it to ever= ything, but first, either=0A> composer or=0A> performer choose that "everyt= hing".=0A> =0A> =0A> C: RICK'S ORIGINAL MAIL (AND INCLUDING REFERENCES TO O= THER=0A> POSTS)=0A> -------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------------------------------------=0A> Let me= just start with some dissent:=0A> "pre-rehearsed and already thought out p= ieces of music=0A> using live=0A> looping feel as sterile to me as people p= ush playing on=0A> DATs, I-pods,=0A> CDs, DVDS or computers."=0A> To which = I have to say that I found some creative DJ=0A> performances (aka=0A> "push= ing play on CDs") very rewarding.=0A> =0A> "the last ten years or so of my = life have been all=0A> improvisational."=0A> This is finally where I can br= ing the ramblings from=0A> section B to some=0A> use. From what I remember,= this is not at all true. I take=0A> as one=0A> example the piece which ope= ns the recording from Antwerp.=0A> Upon first=0A> listening to that recordi= ng, I thought "Hey - I like that=0A> tune!" You=0A> played that same compos= ition (!) on June 11th 2008 at=0A> Pasinger Fabrik,=0A> about 21 minutes in= to your set - and a few other times on=0A> that tour as=0A> well. So you de= finitely don't have a C=3D0 index. And=0A> actually, your T=0A> index is ve= ry high. True, you don't play bebop runs, but=0A> you have=0A> created quit= e a fascinating array of "Rick Walker=0A> Tradition" you use=0A> all the ti= me.=0A> So rather, I'd call your work "The Rick Walker Tradition=0A> (with= =0A> improvised content and audience interaction)", rather than=0A> "improv= ised".=0A> =0A> (this is by no means intended to critizise what you do -=0A= > rather to get=0A> into perspective how you use the word "improvised" and = how=0A> I=0A> understand it. For me, "improvised" implies C=3D0).=0A> =0A> = I really find your concept of playing with a clock to make=0A> the=0A> indi= vidual pieces be shorter to be interesting.=0A> "Interesting" in that=0A> c= ontext means I don't like it. Why?=0A> Specific pieces of music develop in = a specific time frame.=0A> You have=0A> that starting idea - like that one = three-tone motif with a=0A> chord - and=0A> then think about it further and= it develops into a=0A> composition lasting=0A> four hours. Would it have w= orked if you put your=0A> seven-minute clock=0A> next to Richard Wagner whe= n he wrote "Tristan und Isolde"?=0A> So if you=0A> believe that your pieces= are too long (to which conclusion=0A> you may=0A> have come either because= you or the audience get bored, or=0A> for some=0A> other reason), you shou= ld rather work on your creative=0A> process.=0A> (In the following, I assum= e you want to play shorter=0A> pieces, for=0A> whichever reason).=0A> First= , thinking considerably in advance before you start=0A> playing=0A> (that's= still going with that "C=3D0" approach) can help. How=0A> will that=0A> pi= ece develop? And consequently, how can you make it work=0A> with your=0A> p= erformance approach (including your looping gear)?=0A> Preprogramming=0A> s= tuff, as Kevin suggested, helps a great deal here. Also,=0A> Per is very=0A= > active in that realm by writing complex scripts for Mobius=0A> to do=0A> = complex looping maneuvers at the push of a button so he can=0A> make=0A> tr= ansitions in a few bars that otherwise would take=0A> considerably=0A> long= er.=0A> Another thing: think about your gear and how you work with=0A> it. = Say you=0A> have a repeating three-beat drum sequence on top of which=0A> y= ou want to=0A> overdub a five-beat-long sequence. Now you could first play= =0A> that first=0A> sequence five times into a loop, then overdub the secon= d=0A> one three=0A> times. Or you could play that three-beat sequence once,= =0A> then multiply=0A> and overdub the second one three times. Or you could= play=0A> the first=0A> sequence once, then play the second one once onto a= nother=0A> track. The=0A> time necessary for establishing that loop has bee= n reduced=0A> to 1/3 of=0A> the original amount.=0A> Finally: change what y= ou're playing. Only record=0A> two-beat-long loops=0A> and play on top of t= hem for ten times. Extremely short=0A> song.=0A> This however, should all b= e preceded by making up your mind=0A> what you=0A> actually want to play. P= erhaps your musical approach=0A> requires=0A> ten-minute+plus pieces. Perha= ps you need to optimize so=0A> your audience=0A> doesn't get bored - perhap= s you actually care. These are=0A> the things=0A> that should go first.=0A>= And finally, I found that longer, more slowly developing=0A> pieces work= =0A> better in a live than in a recorded context. If you're hit=0A> by that= odd=0A> piece for the first time, it takes some time to get it - if=0A> it= 's on a=0A> CD, you listen to it repeatedly, after you already "got=0A> it"= . And for=0A> that reason, I find it perfectly ok to trim a live=0A> record= ing a little=0A> so that what felt good live also feels good on an album=0A= > release. As=0A> the liner notes of one of Fripp's soundscape albums say:= =0A> "nothing is=0A> left out - it just happens a little faster".=0A> =0A> = And so (I'm getting carried away a little) - why don't you=0A> ask your=0A>= pupils instead to first think why their pieces are of the=0A> length they= =0A> are and if they feel right?=0A> =0A> =0A> D: COMMENTS ON SOME REPLIES= =0A> ------------------------------------------------------=0A> Yes, there = had been a lot of jamming during Bach's time.=0A> This started=0A> with the= fact that the continuo part (e.g. for a cembalo) -=0A> which=0A> somewhat = was the "jazz piano" of that music, just in a=0A> leadshet, did=0A> not get= an actual written-out part, rather a bass line with=0A> some=0A> numbers o= ver it or a bass line and a melody - basically, a=0A> lead sheet.=0A> Check= out recordings e.g. of Glenn Gould playing continuo=0A> on some=0A> ensemb= le works! Also, that endless repetitions of the main=0A> theme in=0A> works= from that period start to make sense when you know=0A> that the=0A> musici= ans actually had to play improvised solo chorusses=0A> after the=0A> first = time.=0A> =0A> Ted, I'm somewhat surprised that this pressure to "get it=0A= > right" only=0A> hits you when you playing composed material. Why don't yo= u=0A> feel=0A> pressured to get it right when you play improvised stuff?=0A= > Or to stay=0A> with your metaphor - why can't you perform the composition= s=0A> (your own=0A> ones or those of others) like a child?=0A> That "don't = care" statement actually refers nicely to some=0A> other posts=0A> (and eas= ily links back to the last section): I would not=0A> suggest that=0A> you p= lay as if you don't care if you sound good or bad -=0A> rather you=0A> shou= ld play as if you don't care if you sound good or bad=0A> to the=0A> audien= ce. And with that, such ideas to force yourself to=0A> never play=0A> longe= r than seven minutes suddenly disappear, because with=0A> that=0A> approach= , you will stop anyway if it gets boring (to you).=0A> =0A> And Zoe, I beli= eve that the classical stuff you play feel=0A> new because=0A> they aren't = all composed beforehand as you say - the feel=0A> new because=0A> you make = them something new everytime you play them (and if=0A> you=0A> wouldn't, yo= ur audience would most probably disappear=0A> anyway).=0A> =0A> Finally, th= ere's that nice Mark Sottilaro vs. Rick Walker=0A> dialogue:=0A> Thanks, Ma= rk! Although I don't agree with your post in the=0A> least, it's=0A> nice t= hat at least someone for once gets away from that=0A> "we're such a=0A> sup= portive community so we must tell everyone every single=0A> time how=0A> gr= eat and inspiring that disposable sound menace is"=0A> approach of some=0A>= institution caring for the challenged (for those with a=0A> good language= =0A> background: what is the English translation of=0A> "besch=FCtzende=0A>= Werkst=E4tte"?).=0A> =0A> I disagree with you in so far because you say th= at you=0A> prefer=0A> loopstation, Kid Beyond, Amy X Neuburg and Brian Kenn= ey=0A> Fresno to all=0A> the other artists, and believe the reason is that = these=0A> artists play=0A> composed material. The reason is that all of tho= se are=0A> great stage=0A> personalities per se, and have obviously worked = hard at=0A> their stage=0A> appearance independently of the musical content= . How many=0A> of the=0A> artists not in your list do you believe do have a= =0A> consciously laid out=0A> concept for their stage appearance, including= clothing, how=0A> the walk=0A> and move, how they make use of lights etc.?= Furthermore,=0A> Kid Beyond=0A> (at least what I remember of his work) pla= ys a lot of cover=0A> tunes -=0A> which also makes people happy. Finally, a= ll of the named=0A> examples=0A> sing, and "singing is a trick to get peopl= e to listen to=0A> music for=0A> longer than they would ordinarily" ("Stop = Making Sense"=0A> liner notes).=0A> (I have to agree that Andre LaFosse doe= sn't fit into those=0A> categories,=0A> but Andre is just an oustanding com= poser and guitar/EDP=0A> player.=0A> Sometimes, that's enough. Another exam= ple in this category:=0A> Andreas=0A> Willers - at all costs go see him if = you get the chance,=0A> he'll blow=0A> you away).=0A> Another great example= in this category is Rick Walker. I=0A> have to admit=0A> (and Rick, you kn= ow I told you that in all friendship) that=0A> I don't=0A> like his music, = in so far as I find it boring. This ist=0A> totally untrue=0A> for his live= shows - I greatly and deeply enjoyed every=0A> single one of=0A> them, be = it to a large crowd or to half a dozen people, be=0A> it his solo=0A> progr= amme, some spontaneously created duo settings or his=0A> comments on=0A> a = world championship soccer match. At least some of them=0A> were=0A> improvi= sed - but they worked equally the same for me,=0A> because it was=0A> Rick = being on stage and performing them.=0A> =0A> =0A> E: WHAT TO MAKE OF ALL OF= THIS=0A> -------------------------------------------------------=0A> So, w= hat do we make of all of this? Most of my ramblings=0A> are rather=0A> inco= nclusive, but there are some messages:=0A> =0A> I. "Composed vs. Improvised= " is not a simple as most people=0A> believe=0A> when they think about thos= e two concepts, which seem=0A> complementary.=0A> II. "Composed" doesn't ne= cessarily make a performance=0A> enjoyable.=0A> "Improvised" does not neces= sarily make it less enjoyable.=0A> III. Rick - please do some singer-songwr= iter stuff -=0A> looking forward=0A> to it! By my definition, you're doing = composed stuff by a=0A> large=0A> percentage anyway. ;)=0A> IV. Great discu= ssion - the messages are still coming.=0A> =0A> =0A> Yours,=0A> =0A> =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=0A> =A0=A0=A0Rainer=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 10:25:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F00F3BE7C; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:25:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1247135149; l=747; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=gZPhvKZlg4l/PwwrjSpSGmKVve8=; b=ud0PCQccKMw7t87fnYsBFnWpjefuz0Z4A9ngzxgdqbb6TCJW93v44NIK2FL+NpHEO+d xpunqInmVDlBq6yNSbW8BAo3iRi/V8Qzs03ckTHS4qVHb0eM0v+cqYn49gmIR3c7HALuI Kf6Z8gnm7WCZpSJui4mBTAXrGMHndnKOZ4k= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <009101ca0080$166879c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: "Loopers-Delight" References: <3E076E21A3E64E3895831314D80C28E4@williamsteed> <74FE5C55-940B-4C04-9190-0F898E3843B0@grubmah.com> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:28:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <_yCqfD.A.L5E.vWcVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:25:51 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, that´s another nice option. Improvising on well known songs. I do that with Kraftwerks "Autobahn"(I remember I saw Gary Lucas/Capt.Beefheart doing this track in a concert which inspired me to try it myself) - you can listen to my attempt on my www.myspace.com/christojota - page - or "Endless cycle" (Lou Reed). Christo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Hamburg" To: Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 7:25 AM Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances > I play around periodically with established melodies -- Shenandoah at > a couple of festivals, Venus in Furs at Y2K8 -- but I use them just as > jumping off points. > > Mark > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 10:40:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EA493BE7E; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:40:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: 8SWPja4VM1lLL3K0H67oVEMB4jM5EMctJVWf5KlGdqWeDSn27wHlWCv_Xb2H.ryigqEWJOhXqtcIzKEiu2625Dj3w7AA9kFYKMCVsYHzEdEzNrPp1DNtsJd0o8QtyMJW7r2Ii72Zy3pJeVphiBfotRTV39zt7V0h36hT3CkWRpS69RonS.Wq92RfHAW91kdZXrfur.hwseoi2UpLguHBfyLzM4lgXIg87XjU.MU4mN9lnoo5h8grH_cSYxA3skXxRsv5rMHms4nhLrs- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <005501ca0081$b21a7520$0201a8c0@A> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <66f9cc1e0907090152s2ad583f8s201df32ee5b0a8d9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Pro composition/scoring (Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 11:40:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:40:38 +0000 (UTC) A person doesn't chose to work > with composing because he/she can't play! I'm not sure that it is necessary for me to clarify, but I will anyway. I was not at any point suggesting that, Per. I most certainly was not trying to tar all with any brush. I am a fan of many composers and their compositional techniques and I most certainly agree that a composer can regard an ensemble as their "instrument." However, I am simply not a fan of the parochial that do not realise that without the performer, they would have no one to realise their work. But when working with a real > ensemble you are also able to take advantage of using this cool > parameter called "musician's interpretation". Exactly my point. A very cool parameter that can would seem to be disregarded by many a composer. Again, not saying that this is the case for everyone. Let me be clear that I am speaking about a minority of negative instances within a tradional realm of composition. I am in no way anti-score. :) No, Sir. Not me. Ricky From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 12:43:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C15703BE77; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:43:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1247143393; bh=NWm2S/blnji6ag2RJjWrVNjDcRA/1QPzo4cVQ4KKUQc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g2/1SGGBLvh26SWD18nbJEEtpGje0HflOPz5g7alW2Y4uTRcV8wT99YS2ZAPw39CGgLpf3Pdl2C1PU32H+MsLB4lTWrKFTLQsoXS4uK6DIg10KnSJ8WjGI+m4nHaVmiNmq2li6CNvB5Q5KHBH1kqhHio8mXJm7Zu31cM3Dm/m4g= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R23PKHQV4XrOWYoNnEQAzulXx0GkW2jGNoLjQs5ppp4uJUKo3INS6R2sH3+6oPP4WCgdF78hJRvHFGZsOpzlZfLaCn0y+gyhNI5dtKyMhleySzva7GboQSBasIvvPicNneEX7twj840fbkYBIdU2dYS0+C+kD4Z16WfmYJl/fbA=; Message-ID: <836117.40412.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: H4nRc8cVM1nWCP.nOSTEcuJleM06Xf9bXgzo_nLxY3kSfOLdBI8Z0uhrX11iwH6HnoXblk_B4CfHt4UcIDf4pYI7p_._ebzGxjKkkmDzalTVRh3hOeeduCIf2uDNK5Gj.3oyGQIRrrmbTCUscGKJbNcB9MpfxTe88zp2e_C88q6IsrZtQUQKNBq5vBsRVfueNDsBxFz7ZgTjGTFD5k0Vcb4k2IyXI8AvQECuJv0vlkFlvDczyFQe8SRZv9i2LpSZC2NK3wG47iLhY1pUBM6Y0JUsjsMUfNKVGC6923jdnmOqWeK99BaCyYpIEmZFLQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 05:43:13 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: Pro composition/scoring (Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1516696027-1247143393=:40412" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:43:14 +0000 (UTC) --0-1516696027-1247143393=:40412 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My re-interest in music comes out of the free jazz/improv/spontaneous compo= sition field so I'm becoming very familiar with the "high-wire act" of just= winging it, both as a player and audience. But since that's with my double-bass, I'll admit to still being a little un= comfortable with loopers/effects on the floor, just because I'm worried tha= t I'm spending too much futzing with knobs, etc. and not focusing on respon= ding/replying to the other musicians. As to pre-gig prep, I'll echo the previous comments about starting with=0As= omething you know and just screwing around with it - play it backwards, hal= f-speed, as fast as you can, etc...=A0 My favourite riff=0Afor that is "Bla= ck Dog" by Led Zep. =0A And, as usual, you learn from those that do it better than you.=A0 I've bee= n fortunate to attend workshops by Eddie Prevost, Jessie Stewart, Lori Free= dman, Anne Bourne, etc. and to hear them articulate the process is very hel= pful. =0AAnyway, I'm pretty much at the point where I have a very low tolerance o= f live music that doesn't have an 'edge' to it.=A0 I mean, why go out, driv= e who knows how far, and pay big bucks just to hear the cd live?=A0 I'm loo= king for effort and fearlessness, not choerographed stage moves. My general inspiration for improv comes Douglas Adams from "Life, the Unive= rse and Everything": There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying= . The knack lies=0Ain learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss= ...Clearly, it is this second part, the missing, which presents the=0Adiffi= culties. Ted Harms. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0ABe smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk em= ail the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and sw= itch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca --0-1516696027-1247143393=:40412 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My re-interest in music comes out of the = free jazz/improv/spontaneous composition field so I'm becoming very familia= r with the "high-wire act" of just winging it, both as a player and audienc= e.

But since that's with my double-bass, I'll admit to still being a= little uncomfortable with loopers/effects on the floor, just because I'm w= orried that I'm spending too much futzing with knobs, etc. and not focusing= on responding/replying to the other musicians.

As to pre-gig prep, = I'll echo the previous comments about starting with=0Asomething you know an= d just screwing around with it - play it backwards, half-speed, as fast as = you can, etc...  My favourite riff=0Afor that is "Black Dog" by Led Ze= p.
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And, as usual, you learn from those that do it better than you= .  I've been fortunate to attend workshops by Eddie Prevost, Jessie St= ewart, Lori Freedman, Anne Bourne, etc. and to hear them articulate the pro= cess is very helpful.

=0AAnyway, I'm pretty much at the point where = I have a very low tolerance of live music that doesn't have an 'edge' to it= .  I mean, why go out, drive who knows how far, and pay big bucks just= to hear the cd live?  I'm looking for effort and fearlessness, not ch= oerographed stage moves.

My general inspiration for improv comes Dou= glas Adams from "Life, the Universe and Everything": There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The kn= ack lies=0Ain learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss...Clear= ly, it is this second part, the missing, which presents the=0Adifficulties.=


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Mail - Get a= sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. --0-1516696027-1247143393=:40412-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 12:44:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 104153BE79; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:44:32 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090709124432.304060@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> <004301c9ffbd$db0094c0$0301a8c0@A> <2802C753-CE39-4286-859E-C3DBD5249E81@zoekeating.com> <8B935ECE0154403EB9ACAF00874EA2DC@bobdell> <99E2C77318954CB594C07B283EE3A838@bobdell> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX187wF89zyc7sEqA9ATmoLnfEaC9OsIWTIBFSUV3hj pgSKeB8qV/esNwQnjPR0Ol2/8fPLrvucdE4g== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: B95je/RFYmYBX58snnY3gd9CWkZTQZSg X-FuHaFi: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:44:38 +0000 (UTC) > "Uhm, Mr. Dylan ... your version of Watchtower, it's just enough like > Jimi's." :))) -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 13:35:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0D4A3BE72; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:35:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1247146515; bh=T2ATcLenV8rhsbeYYDQ3wk/bSD1Gw/mFdrLdNBHX7wI=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=FI0u41ebEnIY+L0e3lYO/gMUGNAMbesNuIq7uhJApVc3p120nO0ckk87dvnsV+ylV dWzhR7kz9m+YEr0LHiT3eFty1/IUoxQX9ybZcK9FNWHkEb0aXBqZGtBxjJM9J/8fMP lAe3NS3H94Mi8rp2ErtU8rRviemlUFNtGCpRU+no= Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 15:35:14 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:35:16 +0000 (UTC) > But i tend to get bored very quickly with the eternal improvisation tha= t > just doesnt say anything.In looping i personally tend to prepare my equ= ipment > more than the music so that it doesnt fuck up on stage which is irritat= ing to > see and no less for an audience that has paid a ticket! this might even= come > across for them as an amateur or unprofessional show,so yes i encourage= loopers > to prepare! Hi Luis, I think 75% of my preparation has been technical, I have spent months and= months on it but even then, things went wrong :) So I have to agree with= you that technical preparation should be a top priority for each looper.= But I'm glad that overall, we haven't had any major technical issues duri= ng the Antwerp loopfest. As a festival organizer I'm dependent on many as= pects and you only need 1 component which fails and the whole chain will = fail :) Preparation, good equipment and knowledge are the key ingredients= for success. For example, Ronald and I have fully tested the PA, mics, c= ables, recorders etc the week before the festival. Remember: Mr.Murphy wa= s an optimist so things will always go wrong but I believe most problems = can be avoided if you prepare well. > So improvisation vs. prepared is not really an issue for me,it just dep= ends on the creativity involved. > For me seeing somebody buid up a drum loop with their mouth doesnt make= it any better > or special if i dislike their music as somebody using a drum sample who= se music i like. > And for a non musical audience all this stuff is completely irrelevant = anyway as they are there to be entertained;-) The funny thing was that Rick Walker thought you used a drum sample ;) As= an artist, creating your own drum loop using your mouth can make your pe= rformance more interesting but you have to do it right. Michael's piece w= ith the drum loop and the guitar was very good, one of my personal highli= ghts of the festival. Very simple, but very powerfull, less is more. And = like I wrote yesterday, in this kind of music it's all about atmosphere, = that's what matters. I prefer musicians playing interesting music, playin= g "in function of a song and a band" rather than musicians playing techni= cally perfect but without a soul. Good examples of the last category are = the guitarist who can't stop soloing or the keyboardist using Hammond sou= nds all the time. So if a drum sample fits in the picture, it fits in the= picture, that's fine with me. And besides that, the Antwerp loopfest was= not meant to be the World Championship of Live Looping imo ;) --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 14:43:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56C203BE77; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1247150599; bh=HvjOHZMzLe4tyAYymoiJNRG+PXWJXagpjNhbzZpmqPg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=s+TlG2t/k7p3c5ZdfuAvFkXCXRcHLYMO9iuTy9XYHnt8BFqbO1Fm4o0uy/oyubJAdF477ilYOCowf8K42Y9dChtgw3PLMR3Kg/UdDH0d4NZqeivaR4kZw+YSBlVLj1iRWd/5lPeioHaA0SOoH6nkC6+9DwNHOrKEsbapuS68Wn0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=oA4nzzWGhzlhUCJ/So/xmJbluQQP292PryuhmBbs1tuoJZD1WpE+AJmY6f1H810vZliStIRLpCStpazO0t0B5jC2heLPH1L/PUyvwl+R9A85NC6ucJGxngQa+QX8Txxk+E8mQYDcYz3lrjzyFJXRvP74A9L9OyH/pMQNcUu/e0c=; Message-ID: <116839.35718.qm@web24302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:43:18 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:43:20 +0000 (UTC) yes i am gulity of this as hell! i ve had my share of things going wrong on= stage ( the Y2k8 in Cologne comes to mind)i had a new piece of gear back t= hen and was not very acquainted with it but wanted desperatly to use it so = lesson learned;-)=0Aand offcourse things can always go wrong specially at f= estivals where there is so much gear laying around,the y2k9 was brilliant a= nd your technical problems were not even noticed actually that drone at the= end when your midi notes got stucked sounded cool like it was part of the = set Sjaak;-)=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Sjaak schrieb am Do, 9.7.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Sjaak =0A> Betreff: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performanc= es=0A> An: "Loopers-Delight" =0A> Datu= m: Donnerstag, 9. Juli 2009, 6:35=0A> > But i tend to get bored very=0A> qu= ickly with the eternal improvisation that=0A> > just doesnt say anything.In= looping i personally tend=0A> to prepare my equipment=0A> > more than the = music so that it doesnt fuck up on stage=0A> which is irritating to=0A> > s= ee and no less for an audience that has paid a=0A> ticket! this might even = come=0A> > across for them as an amateur or unprofessional=0A> show,so yes = i encourage loopers=0A> > to prepare!=0A> =0A> Hi Luis,=0A> I think 75% of = my preparation has been technical, I have=0A> spent months and months on it= but even then, things went=0A> wrong :) So I have to agree with you that t= echnical=0A> preparation should be a top priority for each looper.=0A> =0A>= But I'm glad that overall, we haven't had any major=0A> technical issues d= uring the Antwerp loopfest. As a festival=0A> organizer I'm dependent on ma= ny aspects and you only need 1=0A> component which fails and the whole chai= n will fail :)=0A> Preparation, good equipment and knowledge are the key=0A= > ingredients for success. For example, Ronald and I have=0A> fully tested = the PA, mics, cables, recorders etc the week=0A> before the festival. Remem= ber: Mr.Murphy was an optimist so=0A> things will always go wrong but I bel= ieve most problems can=0A> be avoided if you prepare well.=0A> =0A> > So im= provisation vs. prepared is not really an issue=0A> for me,it just depends = on the creativity involved.=0A> > For me seeing somebody buid up a drum loo= p with their=0A> mouth doesnt make it any better=0A> > or special if i disl= ike their music as somebody using=0A> a drum sample whose music i like.=0A>= > And for a non musical audience all this stuff is=0A> completely irreleva= nt anyway as they are there to be=0A> entertained;-)=0A> =0A> The funny thi= ng was that Rick Walker thought you used a=0A> drum sample ;) As an artist,= creating your own drum loop=0A> using your mouth can make your performance= more interesting=0A> but you have to do it right. Michael's piece with the= drum=0A> loop and the guitar was very good, one of my personal=0A> highlig= hts of the festival. Very simple, but very powerfull,=0A> less is more. And= like I wrote yesterday, in this kind of=0A> music it's all about atmospher= e, that's what matters. I=0A> prefer musicians playing interesting music, p= laying "in=0A> function of a song and a band" rather than musicians playing= =0A> technically perfect but without a soul. Good examples of the=0A> last = category are the guitarist who can't stop soloing or=0A> the keyboardist us= ing Hammond sounds all the time. So if a=0A> drum sample fits in the pictur= e, it fits in the picture,=0A> that's fine with me. And besides that, the A= ntwerp loopfest=0A> was not meant to be the World Championship of Live Loop= ing=0A> imo ;)=0A> ---=0A> Sjaak=0A> http://euroloopfest.com/=0A> http://sj= aakovergaauw.com/=0A> =0A> __________________________________=0A> Scarlet M= obile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw=0A> Scarlet One of ADSL, surf= naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 14:53:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B5F33BE77; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A56044C.3040900@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 07:53:00 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7TCpKD.A.RhG.URgVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Christo wrote: "I did 2 CD-recordings recently with improvisational stuff, looping on the fly. Now I try to re-produce/rehearse these tracks which is quite exciting. Sometimes it sounds very similar to the existing tracks, sometimes it sounds completely different." Purportedly, the classical music composer Schoenberg said, "All composition is just very slow improvisation". I always tell my students that because of this, we can also consider all improvisation to be very rapid composition. I don't think all improvisation is very rapid composition but , personally, I strive for that when I improvise myself. The funny thing, for all the found sound/experimental music I do, I have always told journalists that I think of myself as a pop artist. The reason is that I really think in very, very simple forms when I compose in real time (improvise). I just think it sounds better, personally. It's also really easy to lose an audience when one plays so freely that form goes completely out the window. Personally, I've never enjoyed purely free kinds of musics, though I can appreciate them , intellectually. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 16:11:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 369D03BE77; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:11:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5d9d9358c3d45c2366036dcd6895c6cb.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 09:11:37 -0700 Subject: FS: EH, Thereminish Synths, Pedals, etc. From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <_ZfCBD.A.HzB.7ahVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:11:39 +0000 (UTC) Selling a few more things. The 106, DX7, etc are all gone. Pictures, full descriptions at: http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/Salez/FS.htm ----------------------------------------------------- 1. EH Wiggler tube Preamp, Vibrato/Tremelo - $125 2. Alesis AIRFX Theremin style FX/Synth - $125 3. Bass Theremin - Handmade 1 of 1 - $85 4. PAIA Theremax Theremin Kit with New faceplate and Antenna - $75 Partially assembled. 5.Ibanez TS5/TS9 modified pedal, Circuit Bent Synth and Mod sounds $55 6. Boutique Disturbo DS-1 Filter/Synth-Fuzz/Distortion - $95 7. Gemini DJ Vintage Sampled Effects unit. 19" unit with samples of weird sounds to mix into the Disco/Funk. VERY weird and fun. - $75 8. Yamaha CS2x VA digital analog synth - $275 9. DAED ChaOsczz Buzz Box - 1 of 1 single Oscillator Buzz box with multiple waveforms, Tremelo and modulation touch points $85 (Sale Price) All items located in Phila Pa and cash pickup preferred (will also get you better deals). Will ship anywhere in the world as well (buyer pays shipping). Paypal from authenticated accounts (Buyer pays fees) or USPS MO. Send phone # to speed things up. Trades possible for modcan format synth modules unusual pedals, processors, weird synths, Jrums, controllers, etc. Give me a shout and we'll go from there. I believe prices are fair but if you believe otherwise feel free to make a reasonable offer. Any questions drop me a line. Thanks for reading! ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 18:09:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 737503BE79; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 18:09:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NbNySUGK70zg7ZyUAiv8cuhj/Kww1158SlaVAyh4D/k=; b=Bhp4ha0CK/TPzMYmo+I3KTmlUFFUDY53G9d8A0tQH/IgwSs0yoiDMpE0WWvCnPdUtX b4LKa1I5OachHN+0IUUeeTw4mn9JPcsQSiDXDeH9WdMLqPrOBPgwrfH0mQIhoRzOsCDv IgNMnnhRSVJtn+BIXTDK9Jwt2tOijyhTru5mI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=miN6oOG1UqjasUIDaynQE6/7+zOwNSCXwiXJy+zjeDKti60cGeNXQRiaEkknvbkPY5 FYEFVncMRRWyjalUDzTErENwCSFyQhNvfKQNCFX7d5GIWCMVtU5BaDKB57qOG0iTBWiC m9tDY3oc6j73GzxRn+0AIbLekkPrLGNz4pYuY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A548490.5030709@cruzio.com> References: <4A548490.5030709@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 11:09:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 18:09:04 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > So Mark, =A0I'd specifically love to invite you to not only come and perf= orm > this year, =A0 so we can see how you've grown as a live looping artist, b= ut so > that you can see > what's grown in the ensuing years....................a lot has, =A0I assu= re > you. =A0 We'd be better as a community for your performance, involvement = and > support. Thanks for the invite. The format of your loop fests do not mesh with my world view so I'm going to opt out. I'm good with ya'll on the internet though. Cheerio. M From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 18:46:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 542313BE73; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 18:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3NDU8dhYHWfCe7hNHI5eV+sDhb7k0ou1rupRYTcdMgk=; b=KrH1lNJk5FuZYYhKJbczn9zpyRacUrAmBwl53wHjnzu6uwQwUi/F4g9RrUqsI2fNuB gpqCgxnoDhSjdxKI4JgIWFD9uHRVk2976HwtgZqcy9lo75fugdkA/p5iz0yJQ/LA1uJD 1IpAW5VXcpHY3V6ILFdu8g0mKNit1ED70XVcg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=QtjPufA34waiHXkLxVFeLZ2bgGKjhs8v/Ye8ClujIeBPq6M8zJDIYXmEqZc/y6vr0G iDg2wA2JtwCWM2clLo62Ug7LqpipKTydJaOEZWQIzw99elu7QdOIhTjrtBJ9yGGw9KaJ pjOHWzM7uJCcZK3GbbFg0b8vV6EWVp5KL1I98= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4A56044C.3040900@cruzio.com> References: <4A56044C.3040900@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 11:46:12 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e510a9a3bc39f8a5 Message-ID: <37f071c00907091146k23ec78e5k4619edb1cc83f63d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 18:46:14 +0000 (UTC) > Personally, =A0I've never enjoyed > purely free kinds of musics, =A0though I can appreciate them , intellectu= ally. Here's the rub for me and maybe some of you as well? I'm kind of in agreement with Rick here on 'free' music and yet, EVERYTIME I get together to play music, either alone or in a group, this is exactly what I/we end up playing. I record almost everything and will listen back to get a feel for what went down, but I almost never listen back again in a recreational mode. So I spend my time making music that I don't really want to listen to and yet is irresistible to me as a player. I assume (perhaps erroneously) that this is 'music' that would be very hard for a non player to listen to and enjoy as well. And yet, this is the music I make at any given opportunity. The potency of fully improvised music that has never happened before and will never happen again is just too much for me to resist. Whatever joys there might be in performing a 'known' piece just get obliterated by the rush to make new sounds NOW. I find it very strange as I would like to be able to play a rehearsed composition or song and I would like to share what music I make with an audience one day as well, but everything seems to take me in the opposite direction. Anyone else experience anything similar? Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 19:03:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 580E03BE73; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 398 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:03:18 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EIeOTVtF/DyH0PSJyi8fwSerZbELgzTZUXjfqiZABMQ=; b=FceqyO9hXkI6ueurDONqD+JahhZ5NoRV3d2kRXY8Hrq4h4AZ1fZCWUOgIj1a+8/VFG kDxL6pnaYU9FVzEEso8jL+vER+K18LxJt5VbguLTaTv2at154ZRRq4ijr2nCvtc+1NJ9 KX7qlEkQNyzDfXXQ3tVVbXUDT4NJHpYPMBI/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=BrbtAGlWtorhzCtY7D4uyaLyxx5aEtYvCxXsv8Ah5f3jK0PJRQf77XQxEeNgb58w3B oMvsYe3zk66IBBb/UL6CNdRHeKR1RTZW9pacnUOb8QD1Q285kgt8TkM3W/YSX6f+F2Ku g2FYJAuyzW6luTcKHgFXkYBiNVXkay2+UE7Rw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 11:56:40 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: What to do as an unknown artist (by Trent Reznor) From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Mr. Reznor seems like an odd source of advice for "unknown" musicians, but I think most of what he says is pretty sound: http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/trent-manifesto-my-thoughts-what-do-newunknown-artist/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 20:35:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E92C3BE75; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 20:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=n0KC9wOSE/O0X1o7ZyH3qkQrsoCuZsWxcXPRhe4T810=; b=fPwXkz0Vti2Voih+V6j3crkk0hkgkp9cFDelzYUvo25opjiyWGRVFIjWzuYyNeD33P feCot658/LxFCWytXGh/PuAUxuBSnsC605mFdIkYLguXRiWiCqvLpTxmLd8RB/nLxd70 07gHcY4cstfZhgDlP1eyPmHmXuSfCzDRGjZS4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fIGb+XYku/iXqJyG8pQPPtep0o8K/ThWuJVG8K88r/amVxNyHagQ9nwNN89id/PN3W bCcK/JM1BotjEr3uXf9TPffD32SZuBAxBdVFB1hjaHZAK/2ls8u5wF2PSzKJrJnWIMS5 IVtcoAJpktuizowkWiep4zimDBVRUqqvFk5U0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37f071c00907091146k23ec78e5k4619edb1cc83f63d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A56044C.3040900@cruzio.com> <37f071c00907091146k23ec78e5k4619edb1cc83f63d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:35:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_-KMtC.A.yPC.pSlVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 20:35:53 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: >I find it very > strange as I would like to be able to play a rehearsed composition or > song and I would like to share what music I make with an audience one > day as well, but everything seems to take me in the opposite > direction. > > Anyone else experience anything similar? Me. Since I started playing, the "performance" or "recording" was always the goal. It seemed totally out of sync with what I felt, which was my most fulfilling experiences came from real time improvising alone or with a group. The truth is I've rarely had a good experience in front of an audience. No monitors near you, gear screwing up, can't see well, etc, all end up making the live performance more of an exercise in anxiety. The rehearsed pieces are a lot less fun to play, but because you're "on rails" it seems a billion times less stressful to pull off successfully. Instead of having to make it and get it right, all you have to do is get it right. Some people can make it, get it right, and interact with the audience, but that person sure isn't me. Maybe if I did it a lot, but the truth is I just don't even have the desire to. I'm more happy with my music these days than ever. I think I'm on to something too. I know a lot of people who used to play but then stopped because they hadn't achieved a degree of "success." That comes from some pressure in our culture to "make something of yourself" or move on. I think that's the fallacy. I bet a lot more people would be happy just to do it for their own personal enjoyment but we have this idea that's not enough. Silly. Last weekend Ty and I jammed to the audience of my cat who lurked outside my studio. I'm sure she's have been happier if I let her in, but mostly because she likes to chew the rubber bits on my keyboard stands. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 20:39:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 634B53BE7C; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 20:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=riepMtWg6OFmmIa7h8R5mHHD4xetcb0OncvbJtrInrQ=; b=paQGfM2HXekQYcuTRMlVSN3/MJj5ftaKkz4dsM/fniS7eqluFDW0DtOA0sYfFpSMY6 XIy1kFCO00CrQMVgaGADkYoXXZJiqtuRZNe/Hb0dlpU2z5pKE7Slxc7NYCd7L5RTtBjH n7K2ezdn67s4tfWlPz+FIFn59iX63b6DDko50= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SRq/0WMWypNpa16exC80kdEDYO+yJER9en6J+ci5MYZPBuIeFYOzkB3lRSWeLJNfTV hsPwij/owgrjttz+jQqvTmUhaHJa3V2TUINVoLX8XNzJp/14SQ+tQSt/UM3SH9KMc1v3 ciEnfy+WGML1tQw3lBm8RXovNcmpYuD4JSTKU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37f071c00907091146k23ec78e5k4619edb1cc83f63d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A56044C.3040900@cruzio.com> <37f071c00907091146k23ec78e5k4619edb1cc83f63d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:39:15 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30907091339n3d612cddhc04ba77b52df5493@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 20:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Great description Kevin. In answer: I've almsot ALWAYS felt like I was going in the opposite direction than my audience=97the more often I experienced this, the less enthusiatic I've been about sharing it. Beyond the consuming desire as a player to cover fresh, new, exciting territory, lies the realization that an improv performance is such a subjective experience that I'm often not even remotely interested in what anyone outside of the ensemble really thought, and I'm often troubled or just plain irritated by the responses, good and bad. Regarding composition: I love nuance and find repeating set pieces fascinating due to that. Free-improv, while totally enthralling for me as a player, seems excruciating for most non-musician listeners. Excepting the occasional brilliant, serendipitous, miracle of a performance, I find the genre quite irritating. I don't search for great free-improv as much anymore because I have to wade through so much that I don't enjoy. I've become so set in my ways that I could almost listen exclusively to "Pieces Froides", "Nocturnes" and "Danse de Travers" by Erik Satie and die a happy man. (of course I'd still play my guitars to raise hell and explore to my dying day as well.) I fear there's no good reason to put it out there for me any more. I know the "if a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, did it happen?" argument, but I assure you, *I* was there and knew if I (or ensemble) was in the zone or not. Maybe I'm just becoming antisocial, or tired of the endless routine of carting gear etc. but it's really lost it's charm for me. I'm pretty happy to record and play alone as a personal expression, but otherwise find the going pretty tough these days. I'm not sure I'm agreeing with Mark Sotillaro's "world view" concept, but find myself similarly repelled by the idea of music events with a theme of looping, no offense to anyone involved, really! (I feel like it's a personal problem or even a character flaw of some sort. *-)) --=20 Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" On 7/9/09, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > > Personally, I've never enjoyed > > purely free kinds of musics, though I can appreciate them , intellect= ually. > > Here's the rub for me and maybe some of you as well? I'm kind of in > agreement with Rick here on 'free' music and yet, EVERYTIME I get > together to play music, either alone or in a group, this is exactly > what I/we end up playing. I record almost everything and will listen > back to get a feel for what went down, but I almost never listen back > again in a recreational mode. > > So I spend my time making music that I don't really want to listen to > and yet is irresistible to me as a player. I assume (perhaps > erroneously) that this is 'music' that would be very hard for a non > player to listen to and enjoy as well. And yet, this is the music I > make at any given opportunity. > > The potency of fully improvised music that has never happened before > and will never happen again is just too much for me to resist. > Whatever joys there might be in performing a 'known' piece just get > obliterated by the rush to make new sounds NOW. I find it very > strange as I would like to be able to play a rehearsed composition or > song and I would like to share what music I make with an audience one > day as well, but everything seems to take me in the opposite > direction. > > Anyone else experience anything similar? > > Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 22:05:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FAF83BE79; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 22:05:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1247177135; bh=V3igVlLPe6C36Dg/9w7lAz+U+owCAm3vr7KbuN7h768=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RY8gKPCAYPUQgDvLBeW6HTx7iBJtBZUKyAWirekvmMkJ4UBUHHjxpcGnadllcJB92VbbugcTw+AHUJTFZr6Kx00AiePuWNXffqak9Gy8oj6qqns4Ba0qR59nGtmsQyqjeQW4eZfuWSYJ0ybd/x505suqJwHTCTUZaVPUXMW03EY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SxaizwJFyuxruCqQzSJ/vVKb+wYRBxCwnA1zp+8h1DhHae/74Q+sRDURfa+9RqD3PU+GtRdZPlebfIBDC2y/x8d6MfhO1irIkLlJ/bOJ9IAfo5+jOCvto9esXPXxY0JkQkay+tbd1v9wUd2H/O/YjB7ENvHcjZxt7B0qqfp8mdM=; Message-ID: <88773.66894.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 22:05:34 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 22:05:36 +0000 (UTC) Thats the real school Mark,but i share your feelings,i dont know how many g= igs ive played in my life but there are a lot,you know when i started i was= a fuckin snob and would not talk to the audience and would criticise them = before critising myself,yes i also need glasses to see on stage,had bad mon= itors just about my whole career as a musician (can somebody please get it = fuckin right?)ive messed up so many times on stage i could not even tell yo= u ,i produced a CD and the whole band turned against me because i had a vis= ion and did not have the comunication skills at the time to get the concept= across well enoguh so it was misinterpreted as an egoistical project and l= ost a band because of it(yet i am playing with better musicans now),sang th= e wrong lyrics or completly had a blackout and forgot them on stage in fron= t of an audience,realised that i forgot my mixer at one of the most importa= nt and best paid gigs in switzerland after driving 4 hrs. away from home and had to tell my band with my tail between my legs about it and had= to beg my own organiser for help,had technical problems at the Y2k8 in Col= ogne and Santa Cruz etc, etc etc ...=0Ayes man, ive had my share of all of = that and if you ask me what ive gained from all of this... is too much to t= ell you and a lot more than if i had never done it,but in a nut shell it te= aches you to YES GENTLEMEN improvise on the spot!=0AYet as freightening as= it might seem there is something really addictive about it,but yes i agree= it aint for every one,but if it is =0Ago do it now!=0Acheers=0ALuis=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A The truth is I've rarely=0A> had a good=0A> experience in fron= t of an audience. No monitors near you,=0A> gear=0A> screwing up, can't see= well, etc, all end up making the=0A> live=0A> performance more of an exerc= ise in anxiety.=A0 The=0A> rehearsed pieces are=0A> a lot less fun to play,= but because you're "on rails" it=0A> seems a=0A> billion times less stress= ful to pull off=0A> successfully.=A0 Instead of=0A> having to make it and g= et it right, all you have to do is=0A> get it=0A> right. Some people can ma= ke it, get it right, and interact=0A> with the=0A> audience, but that perso= n sure isn't me.=A0 Maybe if I=0A> did it a lot, but=0A> the truth is I jus= t don't even have the desire to.=0A=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 22:25:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B29D03BE7F; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 22:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=e65JBwtB1hCuXvVy80T5ohBjU0Dn6oSA1d2FJd08cxU=; b=SFsAdshyZK/fVHV9v+bUcJxL4ya4qzokEgzMPTTCOs0LJyEHwZ/ewCyGEtvFG0kdZi OAn9fjcLrsejASRUIYF079ZEirKQ416M9dtCUzrGUzueuX1GbMXsB9oLCLeAwxaTr3fq 2UikuvDuubWLGP2H7OdDJTQvMBhmb3X4i18Zc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CZhxnAlfHqwcFYpEZ7eNsD+P9pAq4NcZ7RcyMcSpq1EO77ZolXDZvu8n1jLU9y9Mqy 7qaPBUB5l3dj5xarMsMsJ/7Soy6hw8PMJ788ZlzVVV9K43veSTax+6lYRhaJb2sAwMCp 7oND75NRGSw620RhfK5U+3ckkUxb8Q0KjHv2U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30907091339n3d612cddhc04ba77b52df5493@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A56044C.3040900@cruzio.com> <37f071c00907091146k23ec78e5k4619edb1cc83f63d@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30907091339n3d612cddhc04ba77b52df5493@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 15:25:40 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 22:25:40 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Miko Biffle wrote: > I'm not sure I'm agreeing with Mark Sotillaro's "world view" concept, > but find myself similarly repelled by the idea of music events with a > theme of looping, no offense to anyone involved, really! (I feel like > it's a personal problem or even a character flaw of some sort. *-)) I think you echoed my sentiments exactly. Honestly, I think it's the opposite of a character flaw. The "Hey look at me and love me" aspect of performance, now that... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 9 23:54:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40AC63BE77; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 23:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lRyS23eR40jR9BbIOG+XunyFZgRsVI99neXGl64oK+0=; b=G/D8gw/9Ssr8wHOJU6FojGCGNnNEVfLWA+lW1XppSWlvEpKZL9GvRUVCwneiHGPIec Oh68MdU6/hr1PYLTGTgipN20yY845lSvwreWddqygm9uawv80282ePJ86J4gyVelvxiK JCDIZWJpfu1cNSnq/NIaFj07YJ7s4OB2vCp3g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=TIWytMCHKADvaEB9jbL7QU2iMrPNcVth5UKH6ijneGzSTaKypc01wCVI3OmcbUXIOY AngBbJB6ylpfKvXl1irvcYsoGpCD5FXMq6Qm2M0u/lhqOi9JrGd2aMzNFCEwJwEotl4H XaI2DzG2BMQeasTgJU5V05qNt0YfATmtPwhWY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:54:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: PSP Nitro Delay VST for $9.99 From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8zBt7.A.4W.xMoVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 23:54:25 +0000 (UTC) It's too good to resist a deal like this: http://www.audiomidi.com/PSP-Nitro-P6567C0.aspx Put that after your Mobius and how could it not be fun? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 01:08:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BBFB3BE77; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:08:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:08:00 UTC Message-id: <4A568647.8030107@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:07:35 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:08:00 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Jeffrey Koepper. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Momentium" on Air Space Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#jul Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 04:39:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E30343BE7C; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:39:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9mAkGh04uPm9y4H8PnxFhQzNRbfPa21X/cvfLXg4hAs=; b=ud+gDZ76KCDSmj7AwrI8ATSNI1uhfDhX/tFqO9WJMIL5zy51Qkci5nDpoElXgzMHnB F7hnK/R1xylmgP+Nzv8dQRecfOv2PVS4+snG1IJTaepUEa+K+4SQTOVuFOratYUcfdFx IBs5sx2N64v7qM/7KSIoAt1VpDWT63jbsp40s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=wUAzj3Z+nM2kFV0khjsEqK9exTLoNdf5kXmz2RWYC+eSxUljQKQtR2Y75cL4GL0jUk YbKiM5ZoiKLUBYbBEkxg8PbUSZX9nKtOs4WIswWRIG6bUiQYHEW84O7Fq3/96XryJJso XPSBeuqXNca3ypfpIffii7u5Z/44g2jfS3u9E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:39:44 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Taking the drum machine on tour (US northeast) From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:39:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, After all this planning, I'm going to be touring the northeastern United States this summer, starting next week. Thanks for the folks on this list who helped with the venue contacts. As I'm sure I mentioned before, I improvise music with a drum machine, running it through an array of effects pedals to get very un-drummachine-like sounds. At various times it can sound like a live instrumentation, strange little animals, 70s synthesizer space music, acoustic percussion, modern laptop computer stuff, field recordings, etc. If you're interested in such things, please swing by and check it out. www.ribosomemusic.com Thursday, July 16th, 6:30 pm, free Marotta Hour series OSU Urban Arts Gallery 50 W. Town Street, Suite 130 Columbus, OH Matt Davignon (drum machine) & Larry Marotta (guitar): solos and duo Friday, July 17th, 7:30 pm International Children's Art Gallery (ICAG) 5020 Penn Ave, Pittsburgh, PA Solos & groups: Matt Davignon (drum machine), Michael Klobuchar (guitar) , Steve Sciuilli (bowls/electronics), Maurice Rickard (various instruments) Saturday, July 18th, 6:00 PM, $6 Exotic Hypnotic Festival at ArtScape 2009 21 W Royal Ave, 5th Floor Baltimore, MD http://exotichypnotic.org/ (I'm on at 6, festival runs all day, all weekend) Wednesday, July 22nd 7:00 pm, $5 The Rotunda 4014 Walnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104 http://www.therotunda.org Sets by Wobbly, Bevin Blechtum, Matt Davignon, and Mincemeat or Tenspeed Thursday, July 23rd 8:00 pm $6-10 sliding scale (house concert) 949 Allen Lane Woodmere, NY Matt Davignon (drum machine) Boptronica (Harry Weinberg - saxes, electronics and Chris Peters - theremin, electronics) Friday, July 24th 8:00 PM $5-10 Outpost186 2186 1/2 Hampshire street, Cambridge, MA http://zeitgeist-outpost.org The Vortex Other Dimension Ensemble: Todd Brunel (bass clarinet), Junko Simons (cello), Matt Davignon (drum machine) Saturday, July 25th 8:00 PM $5-10 Albany Sonic Arts Collective at Upstate Artists Guild 247 Lark St Albany, NY http://www.albanysonicarts.blogspot.com/ Matt Davignon (drum machine) Matt Weston (drums) and others Synapse Brothers (experimental jazz duo: Bob Gluck - keys, John Myers - guitars/MIDI) Sunday, July 26th 8:00pm, $5 ABC No Rio (COMA music series) 156 Rivington St New York, NY http://www.abcnorio.org/ 1. Matt Davignon: drum machine 2. Shiro Onuma (Tokyo) drum & Blaise Siwula (Brooklyn) sax 3. An Open Session Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com rigs! http://www.youtube.com/user/RibosomeMatt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 05:31:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B3493BE77; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=M/ocQzHW+aGrnHp1VI77jZhQI5STwHyu4TbsgJ4VKv8=; b=m6MV+wnLsWspXFCHF6qFNXTDi+OswKEANfRJQXdhsatwXYu31ig82kZeDSo3Z3R0mG EfcgE9pAiDbrZgru3wf+Mrjjd9c+n71yuyOJ4XBOCminJT/K5IjfqWfhn5Je46/tsWlu 045QmsfZCmguFTmnberCgZnyHQDk7V2by/IfY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=flHEgZ97h3afXbgEW3EmzA0nCJhSGRJRStngaehKmQiCaxS3caY3vSiq4PMsSyrgMo c3S6D6VXiNEHaFWZ+J42zXJHHMDHtx9eC2vNEK1mKrYqm4ZiGCCsCEBIgoZnNix7wQQg z5JaF8GuNLEpsrCVa00HqhMy+7D151B9Qcj7Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:31:20 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907092231i39e67270vec62a34d4c47cd3b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: GigSpam: Chinapainting unites for July LIVE From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502d7e83d62f6046e5348b2 Resent-Message-ID: <6twgKD.A.K0D.qItVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:31:22 +0000 (UTC) --00504502d7e83d62f6046e5348b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Seeing Matt's announcement for his coming east reminded me that I don't believe we posted about 3 Chinapainting shows that are taking place in the next few days. Daryl as you know has been on a national tour and listed these dates in his initial schedule but I wanted to pass them along now that we are on the cusp. We are going to be in Cleveland (OH) this weekend for two shows at *Ingenuity Fest*. Saturday July 11th, Halle Alley, 6pm Sunday July 12th, E Cafe, 2pm Info at http://www.ingenuitycleveland.com We applied for this festival back in late 08 when we first learned of it and very pleased that we have been invited. If you are in and around Cleveland please do come out. The festival opens this afternoon and on into the evening I believe. Our 3rd show is in NYC at the same locale as Matt's, *ABC NoRio*. We will be there the Sunday before as part of the COMA series. Sunday July 19th, ABC NoRio, 8pm. Located on Lower East Side at 156 Rivington. Info at http://www.abcnorio.org. We have a possible 4th in Philadelphia on the 24th but it's not yet firm. I'll update when that time gets closer. Welcome to Matt here in the east, glad you are coming out and again if you are near Cleveland this weekend come to Ingenuity and equally for those in NYC area, remember Chinapainting on the 19th of July and Matt on the 26th. Regards jim www.chinapaintingmusic.com --00504502d7e83d62f6046e5348b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seeing Matt's announcement for his coming east reminded me that I don&#= 39;t believe we posted about 3 Chinapainting shows that are taking place in= the next few days. =A0Daryl as you know has been on a national tour and li= sted these dates in his initial schedule but I wanted to pass them along no= w that we are on the cusp.

We are going to be in Cleveland (OH) this weekend for two sh= ows at Ingenuity Fest.

Saturday July 11th, = Halle Alley, 6pm
Sunday July 12th, E Cafe, 2pm


We applied for = this festival back in late 08 when we first learned of it and very pleased = that we have been invited. =A0If you are in and around Cleveland please do = come out. =A0The festival opens this afternoon and on into the evening I be= lieve.

Our 3rd show is in NYC at the same locale as Matt's= , ABC NoRio. =A0We will be there the Sunday before=A0as=A0part=A0of= =A0the=A0COMA=A0series.

Sunday=A0July=A019th,=A0AB= C=A0NoRio,=A08pm.=A0=A0Located=A0on=A0Lower=A0East=A0Side=A0at=A0156=A0Rivi= ngton.=A0=A0Info=A0at=A0http://www.abcn= orio.org.

We have a possible 4th in Philadelphia on the 24th but = it's not yet firm. =A0I'll update when that time gets closer.
=

Welcome to Matt here in the east, glad you are coming o= ut and again if you are near Cleveland this weekend come to Ingenuity and e= qually for those in NYC area, remember Chinapainting on the 19th of July an= d Matt on the 26th.

Regards


jim


--00504502d7e83d62f6046e5348b2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 07:30:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E3A73BE79; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rLtemHbWNfNEurgyQoaG33bu2EkCjpXq6Oc1L5ZEDB8=; b=li5HVBQ08iJvomDrVqDD/jAwToCMf74PsXapLG6QMsnqPAK24p71oXjMM2x2DFNCnv p4DfhIpWCf0qBdgjTYld6J6J5LuNKC4z3696onnyW0n7hPMVGyaHW34rxSn7E28ArMHc e9JiLoH3LMidXqqR5w0ws/c9bPwby8JKQPqh4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eAJeQKq9BAoDSXjaDPPb/ptK3f0fRaP0OYMCFRldFgBwyWFROe9siP/12fjnoixTfb yoPCAR3N7gSfNPxk5WkX+gCIquCtWmzL706Pz8HLn8OoXBhXV6r9oc/846luYG14o/8A 8zOujg5PnMoZlVWQqMkvlJC+YZYZKt6ysLFnw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:30:40 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e071062b8b232200 Message-ID: Subject: new live videos (Improvizone/Darkroom) From: Os To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:30:44 +0000 (UTC) More Improvizone stuff: http://vimeo.com/album/108940 This was an interesting gig for several reasons: * our bassist pulled out at the last minute, leaving us as essentially the Darkroom trio * Andy was playing acoustic drums (he usually plays an electronic kit) * I took my Juno 6 keyboard My now traditional once-per-gig EWI wig-out is in part 3. Enjoy! cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 07:42:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CD7E3BE73; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:42:21 +0200 Message-ID: <001b01ca0131$f5ccb7a0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcoBHstQrxDa4zBlQuC5Bn7zrLabIgAExHbw In-Reply-To: X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.204; VDF: 7.1.4.211) Resent-Message-ID: <2zxpQD.A.ctH.jDvVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:42:27 +0000 (UTC) > the Antwerp loopfest was not meant to be the World Championship of Live Looping imo ;) not ?? hmm. :) -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 08:02:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF84A3BE79; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:02:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: What to do as an unknown artist (by Trent Reznor) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:02:30 +0200 Message-ID: <001c01ca0134$c69d86a0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcoBHswKeiVnT9XKSymhrc23+6LEcgAFeRBQ In-Reply-To: X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.204; VDF: 7.1.4.211) Resent-Message-ID: <3X3pn.A.YT.aWvVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:02:34 +0000 (UTC) very good !! > Mr. Reznor seems like an odd source of advice for "unknown" musicians, but I think most of what he says is pretty sound: > http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/trent-manifesto-my-thoughts-what-do-n ewunknown-artist/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 10:00:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A77AE3BE77; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:00:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 364 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:00:15 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vzXcZXZKLNZd59pkmXTyWq45ZStNDprkzxA3Vq+PsVU=; b=mbp3MtEltmYlFVhGBwztQ5z2edmowhynDt8M6+YA8bY4rXt5D3dQjmikm339jlZxpX pRuUOExhNv9ka3ff67EXBmAfrYD3kj1agSfc5K7jQ3Se8KeXcH5f2Wf8Zfr7cU6vz6P+ Bej94+iUHvqNWhGpV0NCPqAdKlaZmrmZf0nRQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=avX3PbSqL3XoQbOdbLRT+Mtz0uxYOHF+Y5I0oipIk8X9AcKlQNvesnexquTfdw8ilR s7IkYyGEmhdcwQtSswePvD9Cip7werlaOvm20UonBnLl6Gcaz5/SkP7N5jWYqAZMnCot +RnBo4+JHPXA+bfu+zdsPH63Sd/Pm03qPCnSs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:54:09 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PSP Nitro Delay VST for $9.99 From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f44fb42e310a046e56f484 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:00:15 +0000 (UTC) --001485f44fb42e310a046e56f484 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks for the heads up - just bought it! On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > It's too good to resist a deal like this: > > http://www.audiomidi.com/PSP-Nitro-P6567C0.aspx > > Put that after your Mobius and how could it not be fun? > > --001485f44fb42e310a046e56f484 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks for the heads up - just bought it!

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:
It's too good to resist a deal like this:

http://www.audiomidi.com/PSP-Nitro-P6567C0.aspx

Put that after your Mobius and how could it not be fun?


--001485f44fb42e310a046e56f484-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 10:13:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 955E43BE7E; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:13:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oYYCE4QSchHgctQW+nrBsyRIRLvrpoIrd8W5EwUEMHI=; b=UjYXhVzPDZvfG/kyXlXDIWFnEVjom0OGGqUcz8L1rsRoAR5CdzF9/aL0c9KeyM0dAZ XQNRrCxTEyfVYe911J6sQa27hsJB7yoOXC5QqTIaPAwixLwTgERn9SMKRINPBsOG0tYY oRucCK6CiufEJwIFD+WU2me5qdWEYXNYQcI6U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=crtGOeCgHK6Gj67FKz8bMshlWDKGj5znH60h0to5TXsKp6mAIzjGUvVmY3drbjtUdJ akuVK62xcW2dPdABK83D08qNXLcTSv9GI/I23KJtOZexj2+ubJp8N0xEqu7JDP7X9xfZ fRvOhw7XJntsq09jzpm7bZI7PaPxkS689JF0Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:13:40 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907100313w604f51eejb6a65a0059d66c25@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: PSP Nitro Delay VST for $9.99 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9JtqlB.A.SnD.URxVKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:13:40 +0000 (UTC) You're gonna love it, guys! :-) Some, but not all, patches delays the signal a bit so when using those you better slap the Nitro over a send/return bus and keep the main signal clean with no latency. This is only relevant for real-time playing, not for mixing in a DAW that can compensate by look-ahead technique. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > thanks for the heads up - just bought it! > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Mark Sottilaro > wrote: >> >> It's too good to resist a deal like this: >> >> http://www.audiomidi.com/PSP-Nitro-P6567C0.aspx >> >> Put that after your Mobius and how could it not be fun? >> > > From jk@utzon.arch.usyd.edu.au Fri Jul 10 10:52:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4802 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:52:11 UTC Received: from utzon.arch.usyd.edu.au (utzon.arch.usyd.edu.au [129.78.92.183]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5483BE6F for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:51:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by utzon.arch.usyd.edu.au (Postfix, from userid 1485053894) id 1362E73A37D1; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:31:19 +1000 (EST) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You have received a postcard ! From: postcard.com Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090710093119.1362E73A37D1@utzon.arch.usyd.edu.au> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:31:19 +1000 (EST)
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Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:52:36 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090709.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #640 July 9, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on the Jeffrey Koepper. The Featured CD at Midnight was Momentium on Air Space Records. Jeffrey Koepper: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#jul PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Robert Carty Praesepe Starlight Volume2 (Deep Sky) Dan Pound Crack Between the Night Watch (Poundsounds) Worlds Dan Pound Primal Erotic Night Watch (Poundsounds) Dan Pound Night Magic Night Watch (Poundsounds) Dan Pound By the Stream at Night Watch (Poundsounds) Twilight Lemonchill Mantra Senyant (Ricochet Dream) Paul Ellis The Last Hiding The Last Hiding Place of Place of Beauty Beauty (Groove) Jeffrey Koepper Byzantine Machine Momentium (Air Space) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Jeffrey Koepper Outside Momentium (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper Godspeed Momentium (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper Sense of Time Momentium (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper Eternal Sea Momentium (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper 2600 A.D. Momentium (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper Sequential Momentium (Air Space) Meditation Jeffrey Koepper Awakening Momentium (Air Space) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Jeffrey Koepper. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Sequentaria on Air Space Records. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 15:31:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80A3F3BE80; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DYFzkN39QIHPcRWnow/gR7c79s6gGzyAtK7navfxPzM=; b=nt3myeS2U5pnYwbtNCNtVCs0xR6Jwxy6xcRF56A4FnuFo1Boc5avXT3K+emQgT2Jyj lpj2DwWYMOul4ZdNj9sKPLzEAZKWyBViyR1gmF3AXwXm4Vv+g92DbaTDUaXhrGNnUHMn ju/+to1zpDPuVhMHtRewDEZH6Sn55TZgQEC7w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=QLL0iUwyFy7GWOsqYvfbBO1tc08CziHrPPgMKN6QwDjziJpRl58Gg2cF/OqmVmWDYk 0BYuwGiJfR5bXdtT4afS5NO4Ml8ivcBc/b9z8WV8dZlpkFVSVjoZlk7ZDGtHXneI0pXb K9k5DjPW62UVw5/vxc7X2LWy+bmJn1dNFc6ew= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907081221n3aa42acexad55dcad63c7e9fc@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907081221n3aa42acexad55dcad63c7e9fc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:23:43 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dd66a350bb6c8cce Message-ID: <101191640907100823j6890501ek9026156af6b36479@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016361e892ac8542c046e5b8e1c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:31:04 +0000 (UTC) --0016361e892ac8542c046e5b8e1c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rainer, I always love reading your detailed analyses, tho it takes me 3 sittings. You break things down with an analytical persistence that is refreshing. I'm way too scattered to write (or maybe even think) this way, but I do appreciate your efforts. Warren --0016361e892ac8542c046e5b8e1c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rainer, I always love reading your detailed analyses, tho it takes me 3 sit= tings. You break things down with an analytical persistence that is refresh= ing. I'm way too scattered to write (or maybe even think) this way, but= I do appreciate your efforts.

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--0016361e892ac8542c046e5b8e1c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 15:53:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7909B3BE7E; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=WYiv4UPPXXARMqQOu4PDPqJbJ3fPRAxX+DCc6A1zGBI=; b=hTSqoUPtwE2Pv/ct25o8L0JSv+Mxsne6QyGM1Eqg0f8cutvA/b3wMIvWd60NV/Rf6S n0R88Y6+5Ui7HsneCnn6uXIKQxiaurQyGGE7AVU0/wcwR/OPMHh4Qq0RFzVA83DujJAi NmoupVA32JN+ui2sxktPFXcLegHzbaOnNrFS8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=mqjekfMkWrv1BVme5fI3moM/DmhZiF5bCV004z3UYx1gOcryLpl2Ud/+2DRRImQUN4 Np8NUogDgXet3JOc3G0mONof4tdnULqYFcfdidU6cY8MOZmHr0K52JmGLTWoXbrkjAtl 1YnlInUJtpiV2rKMmSgFOzHRSMbQzZsFBX1JE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <001701ca001c$c4459820$0301a8c0@A> References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> <004301c9ffbd$db0094c0$0301a8c0@A> <2802C753-CE39-4286-859E-C3DBD5249E81@zoekeating.com> <001701ca001c$c4459820$0301a8c0@A> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:53:12 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dbbb8ae6e1892443 Message-ID: <101191640907100853o566ce20ap18e801a57ecdb210@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362837524ecdf3046e5bf883 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:53:14 +0000 (UTC) --0016362837524ecdf3046e5bf883 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I might start promoting myself as "Performer/Composer", hoping to emulate the fantastic success of the "Singer/Songwriter" label. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > A common misconception that is still prevalent in music education. It is > something that I feel should be flagged as a problem in academia. This > segregation of composer and performer and how deeply frustrating it can be > to hear a 'traditional' musician speak of the performer as merely a medium > for a composer (a seperate, unrelated entity to their mind) to have their > work realised. It's bullshit. Something or someone miscontrued this > somewhere along the way, and the ignornant followed suit. > ... > > Ricky > > Warren --0016362837524ecdf3046e5bf883 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I might start promoting myself as "Performer/Composer", hoping to= emulate the fantastic success of the "Singer/Songwriter" label.<= br>
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Ricky Gra= ham <rock.guitar.guru@binternet.com> wrote:
A common misconce= ption that is still prevalent in music education. It is something that I fe= el should be flagged as a problem in academia. This segregation of composer= and performer and how deeply frustrating it can be to hear a 'traditio= nal' musician speak of the performer as merely a medium for a composer = (a seperate, unrelated entity to their mind) to have their work realised. I= t's bullshit. Something or someone miscontrued this somewhere along the= way, and the ignornant followed suit.
...

Ricky

Warren
--0016362837524ecdf3046e5bf883-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 15:56:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 809813BE75; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jBM/dvlg/9lYbrV0eVq2jGkNUaxEmPSzyiCd9EEgbKM=; b=OQ/73PHA3xNxI57tiXifgtMamsRGDuVxkwlyLiOrAiWVtvnzkOgqLYVg78caTiUluM juN+acfuSgAk5t7nZOlkrxgQq7+za6Qmva9Q6HfHeElnIY09i/AzsYAyg1W1/xX2fCAb DcaKS66ys+LcDwxuvaqdVdCYxAiW+r1zLAub0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=szz+DAyPcfHQ9dJpLa6QQEBs+xYFtPjFwudoHwQV8WkhT8rsHjl26ll8gaiefvdn50 zuKHdYkNl0tSi3Oj8/5qbB9vOg+TQXjtxZwudH3ek7Q6kbWYCW+QfDxssbs2SoSBe3ew 210MQXSPodFHzX3lujdxP2ahWrUMIbQqSHgQY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640907100853o566ce20ap18e801a57ecdb210@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> <004301c9ffbd$db0094c0$0301a8c0@A> <2802C753-CE39-4286-859E-C3DBD5249E81@zoekeating.com> <001701ca001c$c4459820$0301a8c0@A> <101191640907100853o566ce20ap18e801a57ecdb210@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:56:33 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907100856w7a75f83fy218d5e88922de580@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:56:34 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > I might start promoting myself as "Performer/Composer", hoping to emulate > the fantastic success of the "Singer/Songwriter" label How about "Slinger/Slangwriter"? (or is that too "Swenglish"?) p ;-) Sweden From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 16:00:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA2613BE80; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2203 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:00:26 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ZRJTe/EPj3aNwZIbLE3sBwu1deOnZQ4zNfktts9Mhm8=; b=rUiKZWzsBW+jUiJ7tuNsLE0si+1TQ/+ozHzuHbPsVnwR+h5MRoMUcvfg7z/lWw9BVH 0pZGxDx2b7F636qo2e09hyPfPcnlMdZVGOOaGJczEySLKDrFdtBzYpXXEjZM6qUXC/BC 5ET6EhsN4GYwrWsoIXksYSCUi0t9aS6gzbiwg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sUB0yKfFshf+mLl511SjEMP0+X9WD4g2UHqwk9SNwTut3r91IAVwaipnjN2OA/+yzJ BuZ7nTw/DkZCJ5myr60C4Pf63Use6mVufkFY92fymdEWlBEmhNENOVI8u2rH4g0X99/K CdWuLhQV89P9YDwF94zXYv+lidkg9bUa4gqaE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907100856w7a75f83fy218d5e88922de580@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> <004301c9ffbd$db0094c0$0301a8c0@A> <2802C753-CE39-4286-859E-C3DBD5249E81@zoekeating.com> <001701ca001c$c4459820$0301a8c0@A> <101191640907100853o566ce20ap18e801a57ecdb210@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907100856w7a75f83fy218d5e88922de580@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:00:24 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 12582a9cbed21ecc Message-ID: <101191640907100900g37448ce6k553c632957fbeb7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163628382801f37c046e5c12a4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:00:26 +0000 (UTC) --00163628382801f37c046e5c12a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit for a guitar player, not too bad :-) On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Warren Sirota > wrote: > > I might start promoting myself as "Performer/Composer", hoping to emulate > > the fantastic success of the "Singer/Songwriter" label > > How about "Slinger/Slangwriter"? (or is that too "Swenglish"?) > > p ;-) > Sweden > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --00163628382801f37c046e5c12a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable for a guitar player, not too bad :-)

On F= ri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Warren Sirota<wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
> I might start promoting myself as "Performer/Composer", hopi= ng to emulate
> the fantastic success of the "Singer/Songwriter" label

How about "Slinger/Slangwriter"? (or is that too "Swen= glish"?)

p ;-)
Sweden




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Warren
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http= ://www.warrensirota.com
--00163628382801f37c046e5c12a4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 16:01:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96A093BE86; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:MIME-Version:content-class:From:Subject:Date:Importance:X-Priority:To:Content-Type; b=Z27Q6gPpwnvR6u3C65460sbA9J7EZMDWYfdPJWS7n8lv0djcX2r/nv8H6AGjnTJJ1rbiBECQM3YAmEXfxlkGIx0lkKfuiXB3EIoRxr3Y5B3iZwk6m6ssuRoBWbCrvjvt4URAuNHM7mORhI9qT+jKSOLk0saAhdOWjsGB7HJXLO4= ; X-YMail-OSG: dtcT_REVM1ns7xXfa7D2QtqvNZe5sCgjsNsLGOKstLuGYXVMkhCJobcS2hs6qKl1qJ_cyY90XiX0GtzNaOzcoCDsAZTEqPps1hMp6Z8KyyHPBsaNzahZ1CycBSbfQ2lbArldWCs1kxgS4iQTpFuVBf1GIGRbnI0gVCFHbKCLSGIuuEXTPeqVp3UY7pefzs8559PlZKWKV9EZTR3sL9zIq13KF7osWFimltPn6sFJ8cOGfPCmLDNxpBpymrNqCr7Cx2vIue4jyqmQXG7HuRE99YXnzyvqqKx5dsbhJDFiv4ET0KswWg1ZUtyxUJcUZYxm9K50pJkHGzLxwT8CgC_mvnN56.RgBjo0W1ZmaVYulw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 content-class: From: Ricky Graham Subject: RE: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:00:29 +0100 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_AC23AB9F-7E48-C1B8-B1A4-08FE2F5A0B5E_" Message-Id: <20090710160102.4B3033BE7C@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <5IOhYD.A.7aC.-W2VKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:01:02 +0000 (UTC) --_AC23AB9F-7E48-C1B8-B1A4-08FE2F5A0B5E_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Let us know how that works out for you. :) Ricky -----Original Message----- From: Warren Sirota Sent: 10 July 2009 16:53 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances I might start promoting myself as "Performer/Composer", hoping to emulate t= he fantastic success of the "Singer/Songwriter" label. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: A common misconception that is still prevalent in music education. It is so= mething that I feel should be flagged as a problem in academia. This segreg= ation of composer and performer and how deeply frustrating it can be to hea= r a 'traditional' musician speak of the performer as merely a medium for a = composer (a seperate, unrelated entity to their mind) to have their work re= alised. It's bullshit. Something or someone miscontrued this somewhere alon= g the way, and the ignornant followed suit. ... Ricky Warren --_AC23AB9F-7E48-C1B8-B1A4-08FE2F5A0B5E_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Let us know how that works out for you. :)

Ri= cky

From: Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com><= br>Sent= : 10 July 2009 16:53
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Su= bject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances

I might start promoting myself as "Performer/Composer", hoping t= o emulate the fantastic success of the "Singer/Songwriter" label.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Ricky Graham <rock.gui= tar.guru@binternet.com> wrote:
A common misconception that is still prevale= nt in music education. It is something that I feel should be flagged as a p= roblem in academia. This segregation of composer and performer and how deep= ly frustrating it can be to hear a 'traditional' musician speak of the perf= ormer as merely a medium for a composer (a seperate, unrelated entity to th= eir mind) to have their work realised. It's bullshit. Something or someone = miscontrued this somewhere along the way, and the ignornant followed suit.<= br> ...

Ricky

Warren
= --_AC23AB9F-7E48-C1B8-B1A4-08FE2F5A0B5E_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 16:06:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1E873BE8E; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VsE6d6/AfIV9PeVyo0lC3Aial7bdwVlDLh2sLiKVS4A=; b=s2UVYGx/2VCdy0H4WgQTaI1nAzXgkY+tSf5dLpMg2A7nvKlb23/UOm4bLYS/Msxqxc /6zW6pSCBSBfj2azPNgWGgRYLA2Z525uXsXeUcxgWlj/Ts5nJQP/1VTw2E60o6cv+nf7 vXckT0o691NhWo2ZvoL/4FLVYefdr440eZR+s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MDYFtC6P4pGjn0oJZJuvZX09pD2usKqeOfWId+99n/c5IeMSefcolQubQJDpNKPo9C BZuLaQnLwmBL5vo95F+BukB6Tf1OjJiaFBrfGckSC4oItUjbiU1ZTxlkqSzTC4ASpAv5 e2oYD7a569hZQMA7Yro93EWOX/cjfkwapiG8g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A56044C.3040900@cruzio.com> <37f071c00907091146k23ec78e5k4619edb1cc83f63d@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30907091339n3d612cddhc04ba77b52df5493@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:06:57 -0700 Message-ID: <37f071c00907100906x36ef838fg3e97360b7297f1c3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:06:58 +0000 (UTC) As for myself, I have no problem with the idea of such events at all (looping festivals, electronic music, and so on). And as for the look at me and love me aspect of live performing, well, anyone needing that and thinking the audience at a loop fest will be able to satisfy it might have other issues to be addressed :-) Personally I'm intrigued by the idea of playing live for an audience of strangers not because I seek any sort of adulation but because I wonder what the energy and attention of other people can bring to a performance. Where I get hung up is the all too real ability of other people to negatively impact my playing (I don't play well under critical scrutiny). But I do wonder what a little extra supportive attention might bring out in the music. So from the perspective of someone who doesn't in any way "need" to play live (for fame or fortune), I wonder if its worth trying to overcome all the baggage and hassle that comes with playing publicly. Kevin On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrot= e: > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Miko Biffle wrote: > >> I'm not sure I'm agreeing with Mark Sotillaro's "world view" concept, >> but find myself similarly repelled by the idea of music events with a >> theme of looping, no offense to anyone involved, really! (I feel like >> it's a personal problem or even a character flaw of some sort. *-)) > > I think you echoed my sentiments exactly. Honestly, I think it's the > opposite of a character flaw. =A0The "Hey look at me and love me" aspect > of performance, now that... > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 16:07:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A06A3BE8C; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:07:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A576752.2040106@flyloops.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:07:46 -0700 From: Aaron Leese User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: VST effects on turntables References: <4A575599.5000809@soundscapes.us> In-Reply-To: <4A575599.5000809@soundscapes.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:07:57 +0000 (UTC) Hey all -- Just got done coding some new features for FlyLoops, including VST support (virtual instruments as well as VST effects for the turntables). I haven't had much time to test it on mac and was hoping a few people here might feel up to the challenge. Free download, below. Independent bpm/freq shifting with beat splicing algorithms, and external midi clock syncing are also in there now, if anyone wants to hammer on those (I remember people requesting those features alot from this list). www.flyloops.com/FL3mac.zip also, for the Windows folks ..... www.flyloops.com/FL3.zip As always, send feedback or features requests on this list or back to me personally as appropriate. Thanks, Aaron From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 17:57:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D34DA3BE75; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6gQsan5YceJ4L/l5SY8T9gXxKVXqEQy464sDmBMCiks=; b=hhISehQGxIKwcQN5R0zh6ZsOn5IXb0ofo1pUBZAOzAUh+4kKSZbZfByHrfP613CpRV i13OOAfRPgBTWPshSm4bzghuceej8Osijd1UQaAhQBTXuDUEIG7jUCVgHuyrACPVtFMI brSK3enI/QGBzB8NVL16Gl26M+4n+dG/qiews= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BeD66BdUGikKbWtrtEcyTtNlCCsUVnZmatYHQ+IoDt1mBQy/hvz3c6jTGWiMA+tE1K xar42uAgMB2/YAXHDDBjoI2cBZsde6nJXAIe3Co3VG2EYmikaib7F8GVILTA/QmMJGuE IACm1e6dmkrmKkKS5UzLZD9BB3wN9YMsJSTU8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37f071c00907100906x36ef838fg3e97360b7297f1c3@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A56044C.3040900@cruzio.com> <37f071c00907091146k23ec78e5k4619edb1cc83f63d@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30907091339n3d612cddhc04ba77b52df5493@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00907100906x36ef838fg3e97360b7297f1c3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:57:11 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30907101057g4675b8a8t51e4ecc49c2cfd3d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:57:11 +0000 (UTC) On 7/10/09, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > As for myself, I have no problem with the idea of such events at all > (looping festivals, electronic music, and so on). And as for the look > at me and love me aspect of live performing, well, anyone needing that > and thinking the audience at a loop fest will be able to satisfy it > might have other issues to be addressed :-) Hi Kevin, I'm ambivalent about ALL performing. 8-) No need to seek adulation or acceptance. After plenty of both, I've found myself strangely vacant when standing before an audience, not sure how or why. It's like lost innocence or something. Maybe it's my older age? I'm still wildly into what I actually play (when doing it well) and really moved by my favorite pieces by others=97I just don't understand the performer-audient relationship anymore. Having trouble with the general notion of why I would perform, leads me to more trouble with the specific notion of further filtering my constraints as looping-specific. This is less about music for me and more about interpersonal psychology. Troubling after a lifetime of playing music in many forms. The one area I really still love (when I get the rare chance to do it) is theater / pit-band sort of stuff. That still holds a LOT of juice for me. I love the magic of providing exactly the right mood and ambiance to a scene and seeing the actors do their thing. I find it amazing. It's also a blast to see the reactions of my pit-mates to my efforts. I am also challenged to read the themes and melodies as well as do it on a deadline: early readings and rough rehearsals=97tech rehearsal=97dress rehearsal=97opening night! It holds great magic for me and I wish I had pursued it on a much more serious level. Dichotomy=97conundrum=97bi-polar? Hard to say! 8-) > Personally I'm intrigued by the idea of playing live for an audience > of strangers not because I seek any sort of adulation but because I > wonder what the energy and attention of other people can bring to a > performance. Where I get hung up is the all too real ability of other > people to negatively impact my playing (I don't play well under > critical scrutiny). But I do wonder what a little extra supportive > attention might bring out in the music. I agree that audience energy can affect the outcome of any given performance. While that was a very important factor in ensembles I've played with in the past, it's dropped to the bottom of my list of performance needs at this piont in my life. It's less about "love me" and much more about asking myself exactly WHAT *I* expect from the presence of an audience=97the exploration of this question has led me to the vacant feeling that there is NO GOOD REASON for me to interact with an audience. It's been a weird realization, and very personal, after some long, hard introspection. I'm not even sure if there's a good reason for me to put recordings out there, but I still do. I DO like the idea of sharing my better moments, but somehow don't feel the transaction (resources vs. interaction) is equitable for me at the moment. I've discussed this at length with Rick Walker and his open invitations to play are heart-warming and comforting, in that I've at least left a lasting impression with him. In my long, meandering friendship with Rick, I have always valued his continuing support and hope to still contribute ideas and inspiration from my position on the sidelines. > So from the perspective of someone who doesn't in any way "need" to > play live (for fame or fortune), I wonder if its worth trying to > overcome all the baggage and hassle that comes with playing publicly. I'm sure the answer is different and personal for each=97it's an important question to ask. I was very surprised how I felt after long introspection. -m --=20 Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 18:44:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7D343BE7C; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=452pVm8cjoz+w2etqKC0Zn+Mb2ASFPyw7DbU7QlMq5o=; b=IP9xoQ2X7BkgRyiz8AkRbWKu1WgdB5I+3rlUAz+H0tqCQKNPrQQ6vpQWJM5X8l986O k35pRTZ1hzNF0iEOPEIErGF/5XeAi9P8gcXn2z6vtZvuiYMSJ9Fhl4z2JcDUDOFLX45B VhJ5ff33iW7jRO6ar7doXrQvB+CZSqNXGSR/8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Ug3L4rhaEwSqPGLqHhZUfAnTEci0i1f1k0XIi796r0gKtRdvAuM+yNNuz7oGVJTgdA VKTOgQZiFc5x/x04hq322gEV5eKgi0JOpW5zehp5CnH2naAr6UARwnWCqw5lMRO3m9T8 WAamU6KPa+j567mTDxUtodTiUH65pCVBg+lw0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:44:40 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907101144v778df295p3e36893032224f69@mail.gmail.com> Subject: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I found the posts from Kevin and Miko deeply touching, since it calls back memories from a period where I just found the idea of performing music in front of people bizarre and absurd. This happened to me in the early nineties and I had by then been playing regularly with gigging bands since the early seventies. Had also done some full time playing for periods as hired gun for tours and recordings - even played on a gold selling album once. But now all that just seemed so far away and... stupid. My feelings really surprised me, but I just couldn't come up with one good point in playing live. It seemed such a ridiculous situation; "shall I stand here and make music on this instrument while people sit there doing nothing, except staring at.... me...?" it just felt weird. I played a lot at home during that time and amazed myself by reverting from most kinds of rhythm, playing only drone music. But doing gigs...? Not for me. ONe exception was a uk festival were soviet-france invited me but the police closed down the venue before my ticket money came and nothing happened with that. Then by accident I got together with a drummer friend to save a 24 track album recording from London with a Gambian singer. After that project I became friends with a lot of african players and joinied a band that mashed Irish folk stuff with west african beats and a little kletzmer thrown into the pot. Suddenly I wanted to play live again and I just couldn't understand how in the world I could have felt so alienated with the live situation just three years earlier in time. And then I got together with two other guys and launched an electro-dance-punk unit that got signed to to record labels and received a lot of investments in the music industry. But the overwhelming biz activities sort of killed creativity and I had to quit to stay sane and save my musical ambitions. It's amazing how your life changes with the world all the time. You never know what comes around the next corner. Today I really love to play live! Not for any other reason than the love for the particular music I make. The thought of creating cool music away from an audience now feels absurd; every note I play, even when rehearsing, is done in a sort of "audience mirror mode" as if it was all happening on stage. And funnily a lot of the stuff I make these days is rhythmic. Could it be that it was the lack of rhythm that poisoned my muso back in the nineties? I have a feeling that maybe rhythm is more important in music than tonality. Drums with no tone work perfectly ok but if a tonal instrument is out of rhythm it just sucks. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 18:47:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F6F93BE7C; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:47:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UI3vMdOCWX6LJS/rgx5sK+1dz4rgCyr4I11slp649KM=; b=YK7HUgEfc19j/vVKtZ312iE1uUEwGzG65OVXiVwTZSd4jcEP8ifQvTwkyIhze2zUhT O84ItynIUdwljLQQvrtLjrtzxRiiZ1eKPKg22bHzsAlk1T9gXwCYTcNqh7agbFosLezL rvuZNPwHHro3k7ObfpwV167B7oCz8y0+8qzrw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=tiYVqiiQvjEk1wzIzBbdPVobni679/6PU7cg2EzfkcFETzkTj4lXYGGMouwm5ckNB0 BGZrDkMPx/qMDQp4Yld0Oo23ou4Xip6SjgjI1M4ywyEanjv5ctkVNZUeuawXVTB12fVZ RnohLHf5tSGRuIs0yzG7fjKYg2xN97ltJ6MPg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30907101057g4675b8a8t51e4ecc49c2cfd3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A56044C.3040900@cruzio.com> <37f071c00907091146k23ec78e5k4619edb1cc83f63d@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30907091339n3d612cddhc04ba77b52df5493@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00907100906x36ef838fg3e97360b7297f1c3@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30907101057g4675b8a8t51e4ecc49c2cfd3d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:47:34 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7ca5ecfedc6ce24d Message-ID: <101191640907101147o3f5843b7y22d3484cc845c237@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636283752d667ef046e5e67ee Resent-Message-ID: <3VLEQD.A.gUC.Hz4VKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:47:35 +0000 (UTC) --001636283752d667ef046e5e67ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit at my last looping gig, the gig was fun, but the real magic happened while i was packing up at the end of the night, when Tom Ritchford joined his friend Victor, who had pulled out a guitar, extemporaneously improvising melodies and lyrics to the message of the moment, which was "get the f*k out of here". there were maybe 8 people in the room - the gallery owners and a handful of musicians. a couple of people played other impromptu songs. that was a real throwback to the days when we'd grab a bunch of acoustic instruments and jam under the bridge at 2am, just to do it. there's different magic in a lot of things. every time i disassemble/reassemble my rig to go play, and then drive back and let it sit around for a week before putting it together again, i wonder whether it's worth it to move it. the answer is that for me, it is often enough. my goals in performing publicly are different than performing to record at home. when i record (or, more accurately, "produce" - go through the cycle that many of you know: record an improv, edit, trim, listen, maybe process a little, release), my only goal is to make something that i would still occasionally choose to put on if i ever were to escape being narcissistic. i don't even really care if i can reproduce it live. my motives are totally different when i play publicly - it's to expose people to what i'm doing. is it to get attention? no, it's far more altruistic than that - it's for their own good! ok, the over-the-topness of that statement aside, i think i'm really an "experimental" musician/performance artist in the literal sense of the word - most of my pieces begin with the question, "can i make something musical with that technique or setup?", and most of my looping gigs are - at this point - sociological experiments in public acceptance of strange but familiar forms, and artistic experiments for me in whether i can read the space well enough to do something effective (including spontaneously defining what effective means). I'm playing at the local Farmer's Market on Sunday - I can pretty much guarantee that we will transform the feel of that experience. The art is the transformation of the experience, not any notes that come out. Why do i care about these experiments? honestly, it builds my self-confidence in a very satisfying way. i have played completely and partially-scored looping pieces with some considerable success, but also experience that (a) the completely scored pieces are hard to pull off when technical issues arise, especially if they are instrumentally or mentally challenging and (b) the partially-scored pieces are usually an idea that was good once, but often fails to take off when repeated, as others have noted. I view this as an indication that i have a lot further to go as an improviser, tho, not as an indication that planning is bad. warren --001636283752d667ef046e5e67ee Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable at my last looping gig, the gig was fun, but the real magic happened while = i was packing up at the end of the night, when Tom Ritchford joined his fri= end Victor, who had pulled out a guitar, extemporaneously improvising melod= ies and lyrics to the message of the moment, which was "get the f*k ou= t of here". there were maybe 8 people in the room - the gallery owners= and a handful of musicians. a couple of people played other impromptu song= s. that was a real throwback to the days when we'd grab a bunch of acou= stic instruments and jam under the bridge at 2am, just to do it.

there's different magic in a lot of things. every time i disassembl= e/reassemble my rig to go play, and then drive back and let it sit around f= or a week before putting it together again, i wonder whether it's worth= it to move it. the answer is that for me, it is often enough.

my goals in performing publicly are different than performing to record= at home. when i record (or, more accurately, "produce" - go thro= ugh the cycle that many of you know: record an improv, edit, trim, listen, = maybe process a little, release), my only goal is to make something that i = would still occasionally choose to put on if i ever were to escape being na= rcissistic. i don't even really care if i can reproduce it live. my mot= ives are totally different when i play publicly - it's to expose people= to what i'm doing. is it to get attention? no, it's far more altru= istic than that - it's for their own good!

ok, the over-the-topness of that statement aside, i think i'm reall= y an "experimental" musician/performance artist in the literal se= nse of the word - most of my pieces begin with the question, "can i ma= ke something musical with that technique or setup?", and most of my lo= oping gigs are - at this point - sociological experiments in public accepta= nce of strange but familiar forms, and artistic experiments for me in wheth= er i can read the space well enough to do something effective (including sp= ontaneously defining what effective means). I'm playing at the local Fa= rmer's Market on Sunday - I can pretty much guarantee that we will tran= sform the feel of that experience. The art is the transformation of the exp= erience, not any notes that come out. Why do i care about these experiments= ? honestly, it builds my self-confidence in a very satisfying way.

i have played completely and partially-scored looping pieces with some = considerable success, but also experience that (a) the completely scored pi= eces are hard to pull off when technical issues arise, especially if they a= re instrumentally or mentally challenging and (b) the partially-scored piec= es are usually an idea that was good once, but often fails to take off when= repeated, as others have noted. I view this as an indication that i have a= lot further to go as an improviser, tho, not as an indication that plannin= g is bad.

warren
--001636283752d667ef046e5e67ee-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 19:08:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 261303BE7C; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:08:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ie/miwnRLqICoDHKtDgkaPjz8RRrrEN/a7qKwPv4lbQ=; b=LoEnSJhw5Wq/3SBsQaPf3RRvuadWXYh0DOaqeC/PvRDVpu50UTvXkUQcOF1lLigMZq PKrgXzbOHLdiuF5BWz2QxmySd5pQloLWkk4mHSLJUtQN4LFizdQfCSTtfSN1Lll5GnfF 6qPqs2rcJuIn2oNvKs3SXSD9RruXlMk2vzNUY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tXYxwQJwg0xm9PCqAlwJhBpeWsO/tMvgM6w6Sr+khZFD5b8kUUQ7trS1TrqFxEWGvF 7AQAnIB7ZX0ahK0cVIkRFs1ILWNqD+zYbPpcbqzI9pSrzBhup1habwN4QBECZeDwVfQ6 5M8Yrjg23mfYkucTgjfUuNz917SqDYdZ5AiVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907101144v778df295p3e36893032224f69@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907101144v778df295p3e36893032224f69@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:08:03 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30907101208j46629c6dg13225a95997ea27d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational) From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:08:04 +0000 (UTC) That's why I NEVER shut the door on future possibilities Per! I haven't written anything off=97I'm just going with my honest feellings. Life, feelings, possessions=97all things must pass. Thanks for your story. Maybe there's hope for me yet? -m On 7/10/09, Per Boysen wrote: > > I found the posts from Kevin and Miko deeply touching, since it calls > back memories from a period where I just found the idea of performing > music in front of people bizarre and absurd. This happened to me in > the early nineties and I had by then been playing regularly with > gigging bands since the early seventies . > > It's amazing how your life changes with the world all the time. You > never know what comes around the next corner. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 19:20:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95ACC3BE75; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:20:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/yYZ8T5NfK5FIyPB1aZOyHCcMrct03JqPIvu0M+KG1c=; b=t8f6jFvPyyuJ6bgav8CXEw+wZMnuzWWoB8SXNCS6Ud9er7I3bC2bYzSpV6J3+6BErI gh9dBGeooSBUpoZjyGHE799y484J5ICwqNh1S+Cb8KNVV55w1a7BnwR352pF4A6kx3+v Yi7MmcgiVxgVXQyDKgavB1S3jUGS6m0Rob8fo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OfN1MdD+0xc2zYBninPB4uVq3qeH+lJeKeGOrpOOQ3DojgfBzZ5iLlGyHo49fbhcnV hmJGiKzPtYs2Igs2NgdHp0x0h3TdywzQN0Q1mBsz9TOPhGl0jcBeE6l9LboW7HtFn6X6 w6B5XxAdTcPAC/W85iuo7jZAaoUADIlAxA/GU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30907101208j46629c6dg13225a95997ea27d@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907101144v778df295p3e36893032224f69@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30907101208j46629c6dg13225a95997ea27d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:20:02 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational) From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:20:03 +0000 (UTC) I picked up an interesting book related to all this. It's called The Inner Game of Music. I'm not too far into it, but it's got some interesting ideas about dealing with performing and practice and how there are 2 "Selfs" in people's personalities that deal with how we relate to music. One self (Self 1)is the creative free spirit, and the other is the distracted critical one that keeps us from our potential. Anybody else read it? On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Miko Biffle wrote: > That's why I NEVER shut the door on future possibilities Per! =A0I > haven't written anything off=97I'm just going with my honest feellings. > Life, feelings, possessions=97all things must pass. =A0Thanks for your > story. =A0Maybe there's hope for me yet? =A0-m > > On 7/10/09, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> =A0I found the posts from Kevin and Miko deeply touching, since it calls >> =A0back memories from a period where I just found the idea of performing >> =A0music in front of people bizarre and absurd. This happened to me in >> =A0the early nineties and I had by then been playing regularly with >> =A0gigging bands since the early seventies . >> >> =A0It's amazing how your life changes with the world all the time. You >> =A0never know what comes around the next corner. > > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 19:27:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84BB03BE7F; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090710140457.vza94yaew44og8w8@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:04:57 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational) References: <66f9cc1e0907101144v778df295p3e36893032224f69@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30907101208j46629c6dg13225a95997ea27d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:27:15 +0000 (UTC) I haven't read it, but it's on my list now.. :) for me, the reason to play music is because I enjoy it.. as that is =20 the essence of what everyone has said, I totally support them in =20 whatever way they choose to find their enjoyment.. if I can find an =20 audience that is into what I am into it's the perfect situation.. Tony, I totally get what you shared about the multiple selves.. and =20 personally, I think there are far more voices in our heads than just =20 2.. lol.. and, freedom comes when you can tell the ones who don't =20 belong in a particular situation to shut up.. :) my internal critic is =20 far more welcome when I am recording in a studio situation, but they =20 just get in the way when playing live.. I trust my creative voice, and =20 I let it be my guide.. :) peace -cpr Quoting Tony K : > I picked up an interesting book related to all this. It's called The > Inner Game of Music. I'm not too far into it, but it's got some > interesting ideas about dealing with performing and practice and how > there are 2 "Selfs" in people's personalities that deal with how we > relate to music. One self (Self 1)is the creative free spirit, and > the other is the distracted critical one that keeps us from our > potential. > > Anybody else read it? > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Miko Biffle wrote: >> That's why I NEVER shut the door on future possibilities Per! =C2=A0I >> haven't written anything off=E2=80=94I'm just going with my honest feelli= ngs. >> Life, feelings, possessions=E2=80=94all things must pass. =C2=A0Thanks fo= r your >> story. =C2=A0Maybe there's hope for me yet? =C2=A0-m >> >> On 7/10/09, Per Boysen wrote: >>> >>> =C2=A0I found the posts from Kevin and Miko deeply touching, since it ca= lls >>> =C2=A0back memories from a period where I just found the idea of perform= ing >>> =C2=A0music in front of people bizarre and absurd. This happened to me i= n >>> =C2=A0the early nineties and I had by then been playing regularly with >>> =C2=A0gigging bands since the early seventies . >>> >>> =C2=A0It's amazing how your life changes with the world all the time. Yo= u >>> =C2=A0never know what comes around the next corner. >> >> > > > > -- > -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- > Tony > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 20:02:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5323E3BE7F; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8xUM+yNVdovMzU4kyqMijQwVbz8EiHM1FRUClteXk9M=; b=tuZYjNAR3wyXDGyITz/m50cNJlSv6bBqFahfsf8LOizAartGfEvxerllV8DhU3nAgj 1TnCHwAMSl3UOvzLoV6fJsH2cUjGFzq2SPvIWJvCobKXaSOvOqP99RAqXw1RFNhKcZHC Xq3XqDAAuMQIwzdgCiVqZSVRNJWxw20lZzM30= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=T8G+/bk5fsvJ2EKjn6r9yrfTRCz+8o0YJkCBu+9edRixbJxuBL5YLe7f67kZ023pPD ZIKISlzEvun90UwdR1iseKLG4BKjCqc5w4pApEyOj0227Jcb8OgiJFPLMHPUEey3wEL0 G+PSGBXZgzPQihamz/8iasNwKORZbeQO11NvQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907101144v778df295p3e36893032224f69@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907101144v778df295p3e36893032224f69@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:02:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:02:27 +0000 (UTC) > But now all that just seemed so > far away and... stupid. My feelings really surprised me, but I just > couldn't come up with one good point in playing live. It seemed such a > ridiculous situation; "shall I stand here and make music on this > instrument while people sit there doing nothing, except staring at.... > me...?" it just felt weird. That's exactly how I usually feel during a gig, except one where I'm in a pop-band type situation. I think for me it's a simple matter of if I've rehearsed something I can focus on the performance. If I'm going pure improv, I have to focus on making the music for it to be anything decent. Thus the performance suffers and I can tell I'm not that fun to watch. If I'm not fun to watch, why not just play a recording of an improv session I did at home? To combat this, throughout the years I've done things like play to projected videos, video games, as background for performance artists and as background for art shows, but other than the performance art, in the end it always felt like the fact that I was making it up as I went along was meaningless and the audience would be better or equally served with a recording. I once did a rave with Jon El-Bizri and I swear I watched about an equal enthusiasm over the DJ spinning CDs after our performance as we got for ours. At that point I realized I was wasting my time schlepping gear around. YMMV. I honestly think we're our best, and possible only audience for live improvised looping. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I just don't think we're part of any music movement with any sort of relevance outside our group. I got a billion times better response doing a karaoke version of Purple Rain at my wife's company's Christmas party last year than I have have at any looping gig. Sure, it involved me dry humping the stage, but I won a hundred dollars! ;) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 20:46:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9350F3BE78; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lf8VSgrCzyHe+1NLss8JU8I9Xta7T2ZDcWvXIQwnO0I=; b=gKRU2/q8Jr6Zfa+PF4klBNM5zxaGda3LAwcWzoeF54RkKzhQfDqRsvi6Zdx5/+/bjW fFQLAezOazEeZ5hDcTXZ/IC1cNUH1f3Q1NR+2Jh8v/RF3puSDCvAwF5WCYKfUPsniJ7R Rc/gB4OM+WM22Sok3ENt+2v6eGGmRCNHoXLZE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IXoduIfOJTfAFZ9GoX7X9fnHip52QN6SbaTFqidgVZz0KY3eF7kRJ5uDgyDEXZiVWp k4XqgDgkI6YnaYefnXixrJS3GcfLocsWxoTYTwpjttjONB/uHIL08TlPEGLcj5VEeChw +3NuofSea1zLf+D31SXlIgOhjzqB0xKhW1Dls= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001c01ca0134$c69d86a0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <001c01ca0134$c69d86a0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:46:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What to do as an unknown artist (by Trent Reznor) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:46:04 +0000 (UTC) http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106347439 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > very good !! > >> Mr. Reznor seems like an odd source of advice for "unknown" musicians, but > I think most of what he says is pretty sound: >> > http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/trent-manifesto-my-thoughts-what-do-n > ewunknown-artist/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 21:10:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 064523BE79; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:10:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 350 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:10:35 UTC From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:04:41 -0500 Subject: RE: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational) Thread-Topic: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational) Thread-Index: AcoBmVtLEbjUYsHtS72VmDu2FG6FhQACElnQ Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270FDE1@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907101144v778df295p3e36893032224f69@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ninja-pim: Scanned by Ninja x-ninja-attachmentfiltering: (no action) acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:10:35 +0000 (UTC) > I got a billion times better response doing a karaoke version of > Purple Rain at my wife's company's Christmas party last year Please tell me there is video. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 21:22:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C6013BE73; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Je4zwIkVDIs745A61Luz567qeuEP4oA3rVYTWqxhuN4=; b=GdAybfom8AuIVDwIz/zA/UTJc1WArdkDldLTje1x0u9FlV1N9fxC3427OAiPxTcFrf sqvowowLFM1QKh8meKLZAkJZg3DksGS+1cuYQr5/TAE4/p2alOsvCWcIUvw1Uz4MQnxc X5Zs9TjgUMDwin5BTxSXfA8B7UKpNH8CB0yWE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VOQ5UzbiQSxxNEMR5HDCTyKn10+HySrhZGXgcX4sb1y+OQD3oXSt325AFIyZL3TlM5 kX8a1WJgB08Fr5OhwnD6hVJHt2nDOYxuspfNhYPXP/UQGgZGAeC6/Vf94p7uzQLKdYCX Bu6SQMl2b/wzfRLu54woVxJomcW1W8vzeNrP0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270FDE1@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907101144v778df295p3e36893032224f69@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270FDE1@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:22:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Haha! I hear there is but I have yet to see it. I'll post it if I can find it. On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Jeff Larson wrote: > >> I got a billion times better response doing a karaoke version of >> Purple Rain at my wife's company's Christmas party last year > > Please tell me there is video. > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 21:56:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B78463BE79; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oJ6n0Wd7Ks7n8QI8dqnsbyZoMbKpUij0ZlLymPEUtN0=; b=I7ebM/K/BfceDpHnAsqQJT5parGevB7MqIta1vKtAplFM5bN91viGo3x2Ey4GHCNtr ahrCoiCKJzfLE9F7FJMOnro7xhp9pmi1TCyYMjQRmAsbLWqfBj4VfH65JN6B748upbEM ZTG3il74UjTeHC11KC67qIl3JFlzKwhbJXXNk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=e9RiL3ireggJKa6U68s23MmzfAc/uI1MFh1LhnojrmIZ8cSWNd9HQycZEB3qwQ1PZl nMZ7mwdScGToEzM56vKB1DBg7fu0XOFWEiS2NF5PSpeZ79GKsqtfYwjNL4mUgvqvo9MM x8HB+2YtsPP/8u1P+YrIyDdT4MSGY2pBp5128= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:56:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new live videos (Improvizone/Darkroom) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Really nice. On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Os wrote: > More Improvizone stuff: > http://vimeo.com/album/108940 > > This was an interesting gig for several reasons: > * our bassist pulled out at the last minute, leaving us as essentially > the Darkroom trio > * Andy was playing acoustic drums (he usually plays an electronic kit) > * I took my Juno 6 keyboard > > My now traditional once-per-gig EWI wig-out is in part 3. > > Enjoy! > > > cheers, > os. > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 22:07:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35AD73BE80; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:07:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <66f9cc1e0907101144v778df295p3e36893032224f69@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:07:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:07:41 +0000 (UTC) From: "Mark Sottilaro" > I honestly think we're our best, and possible only audience for live > improvised looping. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I > just don't think we're part of any music movement with any sort of > relevance outside our group. Whenever you look at forms of music outside of the mainstream, there will be a huge decrease in audience size. A big part of it is that the marketing simply doesn't exist. When you are bombarded with mainstream music on radio, on television, in elevators, on hold on your telephone, and everywhere else, you expect music to sound a certain way. Deviation from the accepted sound is weird and nobody wants to listen to that. At least, that is basically what we are brainwashed into believing. There is a segment of the population that does deviate from the norm and can appreciate the music made through improvised looping. Ultimately, the success of any business endeavor is tied to marketing. Music is no different. The trick is to find the audience that is out there and to develop a new audience by exposing them to something that they didn't even know that they would like. Part of this is drawing new audience to gigs. Part of this is connecting with the audience at the gig. Perhaps another portion of this is drawing an Internet audience. Personally, I would like to help this process. I am considering the possibility of sponsoring a looping open mic on a regular basis here in San Jose. I'd very much like to hear from anybody that would be interested in participating. I don't have a venue at the moment although I'm considering using my own home to begin with to see what sort of response we can get. My thought is to have a featured artist or artists for the event and then allow anybody who attends a chance to get up and strut their stuff. I'm even willing to provide one of my own looping devices for anybody to use at the event. What does everybody think? Bob Amstadt Looperlative Audio Products From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 22:15:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AB843BE79; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:15:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PYA/scQkRMrd/R7pwIrk6EOiJyFwB3YW+UQ9OdLG64I=; b=IDv/FSIebpAF744TUlLkFjx9LbKbA2WDhkkrOupV0ZyQJjH8YM9tkKNuaF///n67o7 TH3uUqUs3omQjddVTJIToQFfBCAhQzjA1SKv62iDB0bBLOtf7qufAHUwcy7ucyYzBD21 ggwGS5P9+TL9gUUIV+6pgPNnXzv9wvIAJkIa0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Synk8IUtmok0pB7GYu6GDkrTd7TrZK5kykyI0A6Sd3UAsU7RVd0dn01UYmP4yPohYB SaNxvjMjR+abCALlmmQYBS03RlPmQbbp7o9fc2LAEAnhbh8Txmig29aNoP5XoFLCOLsa RBRFCrpXQXrxDt3YhznA84eagOGVTcHOPB/Jc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0907101144v778df295p3e36893032224f69@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:15:03 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational) From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364eca9ed83741046e614d00 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:15:05 +0000 (UTC) --0016364eca9ed83741046e614d00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob, if I was in San Jose, I would be all over that ... don't suppose you'd like to come to Laramie? *GRIN Dennis On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: > From: "Mark Sottilaro" > >> I honestly think we're our best, and possible only audience for live >> improvised looping. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I >> just don't think we're part of any music movement with any sort of >> relevance outside our group. >> > > Whenever you look at forms of music outside of the mainstream, there will > be a huge decrease in audience size. A big part of it is that the marketing > simply doesn't exist. When you are bombarded with mainstream music on > radio, on television, in elevators, on hold on your telephone, and > everywhere else, you expect music to sound a certain way. Deviation from > the accepted sound is weird and nobody wants to listen to that. At least, > that is basically what we are brainwashed into believing. > > There is a segment of the population that does deviate from the norm and > can appreciate the music made through improvised looping. Ultimately, the > success of any business endeavor is tied to marketing. Music is no > different. The trick is to find the audience that is out there and to > develop a new audience by exposing them to something that they didn't even > know that they would like. Part of this is drawing new audience to gigs. > Part of this is connecting with the audience at the gig. Perhaps another > portion of this is drawing an Internet audience. > > Personally, I would like to help this process. I am considering the > possibility of sponsoring a looping open mic on a regular basis here in San > Jose. I'd very much like to hear from anybody that would be interested in > participating. I don't have a venue at the moment although I'm considering > using my own home to begin with to see what sort of response we can get. My > thought is to have a featured artist or artists for the event and then allow > anybody who attends a chance to get up and strut their stuff. I'm even > willing to provide one of my own looping devices for anybody to use at the > event. > > What does everybody think? > > Bob Amstadt > Looperlative Audio Products > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --0016364eca9ed83741046e614d00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob, if I was in San Jose, I would be all over that ... don't suppose y= ou'd like to come to Laramie? *GRIN

Dennis

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Bob Amstadt <bob@amstadt.com> wrot= e:
From: "Mark = Sottilaro" <zerocrossing@gmail.com>

I honestly think we're our best, and possible only audience for live improvised looping. =A0Not that there's anything wrong with that. =A0I<= br> just don't think we're part of any music movement with any sort of<= br> relevance outside our group.

Whenever you look at forms of music outside of the mainstream, there will b= e a huge decrease in audience size. =A0A big part of it is that the marketi= ng simply doesn't exist. =A0When you are bombarded with mainstream musi= c on radio, on television, in elevators, on hold on your telephone, and eve= rywhere else, you expect music to sound a certain way. =A0Deviation from th= e accepted sound is weird and nobody wants to listen to that. =A0At least, = that is basically what we are brainwashed into believing.

There is a segment of the population that does deviate from the norm and ca= n appreciate the music made through improvised looping. =A0Ultimately, the = success of any business endeavor is tied to marketing. =A0Music is no diffe= rent. =A0The trick is to find the audience that is out there and to develop= a new audience by exposing them to something that they didn't even kno= w that they would like. =A0Part of this is drawing new audience to gigs. Pa= rt of this is connecting with the audience at the gig. =A0Perhaps another p= ortion of this is drawing an Internet audience.

Personally, I would like to help this process. =A0I am considering the poss= ibility of sponsoring a looping open mic on a regular basis here in San Jos= e. =A0I'd very much like to hear from anybody that would be interested = in participating. =A0I don't have a venue at the moment although I'= m considering using my own home to begin with to see what sort of response = we can get. =A0My thought is to have a featured artist or artists for the e= vent and then allow anybody who attends a chance to get up and strut their = stuff. =A0I'm even willing to provide one of my own looping devices for= anybody to use at the event.

What does everybody think?

Bob Amstadt
Looperlative Audio Products



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--0016364eca9ed83741046e614d00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 22:15:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 641253BE86; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1247264105; bh=V/1Sij+yH+EHy4isP75MxtcpX1BKc3GuOJUdd65Iwpo=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=jgFAEOYEp7ch5XsIvU6O+FX7e6adbu72n3bgtw09ma9bu6F9dCbUdEmAxD3ausZM3 dd9HN7dR8YwhCCS9Jzbu6W3T1PhHE1jslAQgugiMtWknCFET8jeNT7IZshFT/pQC7s 7BBpsavOEEMcfjYrIZELTWOB4/sRz5MbLcyWMi68= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: new live videos (Improvizone/Darkroom) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:14:18 +0200 Message-ID: <000301ca01ab$c594a910$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcoBMFdopoaxJXDFQQm0oco06AFnvgAed24g Importance: Normal X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Os, as always, very good ;) Btw: I noticed Andrew Booker didn't use headphones or in-ears this time to "sync" to your loops (he played acoustic). Did he just listen to you and Mike? --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 22:21:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D73D3BE80; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090710165914.s1e3sf8w9ic04kkw@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:59:14 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational) References: <66f9cc1e0907101144v778df295p3e36893032224f69@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:21:32 +0000 (UTC) I'm down with that Bob! Quoting Bob Amstadt : > Personally, I would like to help this process. I am considering the > possibility of sponsoring a looping open mic on a regular basis here in > San Jose. I'd very much like to hear from anybody that would be > interested in participating. I don't have a venue at the moment > although I'm considering using my own home to begin with to see what > sort of response we can get. My thought is to have a featured artist > or artists for the event and then allow anybody who attends a chance to > get up and strut their stuff. I'm even willing to provide one of my > own looping devices for anybody to use at the event. > > What does everybody think? > > Bob Amstadt > Looperlative Audio Products From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 22:25:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 821E03BE86; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=S5CSe8wNi0CgLcPs+RY/ZDGRXWAl7Qr06YSolGDW3YM=; b=dj+SCSNsEEjF+zT6NZ2L8dMQyXEbVagEUmf2wslmS0cplu/LpMh34K/7HJpPM50ALb xRKF9HE73F2/v9P58/aRx79FRryZgtJNTCFVJQ5rPGy8kJNriyMY/BYOPM8vBCUKobVr sjVvHTaAQiu0S4SFF+iPpFNFggzavZ4xBwEgk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Lu96sausPKTzJ5UoUZ/UQW8fzH/3tbXmseMZLicy93yYi8FTVhiOkX4xBsHkk9/5xA /gbVgBdtM4Jug3ifkLHG6NxhkaApvNhQxgv7wGdcx17lwiwL4nqOoQfUfWXRkPxTiyAB iJjMZWrWAX85idBwnGD7KH2jruViulks57zBA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:25:07 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907101525t52f49f0ey4da702ef020f0c1a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Gig Reminder: The MoinSound Studio Sessions - live at t-u-b-e From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1tfvGD.A.7VF.F_7VKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Just a reminder that today (our time, tomorrow yours) at 1600 UTC, The MoinSound Studio Sessions will transmit live from the workshop at www.t-u-b-e.de Link: http://justin.tv/moinlabs Time: http://tinyurl.com/lhahgd This will be a first for me to have other musicians in my bi-weekly videostream - though details are still somewhat hazy. 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Gosh, Kevin, I'm not sure how much experience you have, but playing live in front of an audience, in my experience, produces such wonderful musical results and, frequently, ones that you are not necessarily in control of that I couldn't concieve of a musical life without performance. Now, I like to perform and I even like performance aspects that are extra musical (theatrics, humor, video projection, lighting effects, etc.) which, of course, are all aspects that don't enter into just doing at home for yourself. I do know musicians for whom the performance aspect is painful (social anxiety, fear of rejection, etc., etc.) and I do believe that only playing in one's garage is a perfectly legitimate mode of making music. Indeed, I play a ton of instruments at home that I've never dragged onto stage and just for fun.........but I DO aspire t get them out there. I say the baggage and hassle and time spent playing live is entirely worth the effort! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 22:51:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 529513BE77; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0eS+xqZ1sKRDVU+0ZC1dNeAQBXJUrwqSpEUch8WTZIs=; b=NLp3f9Gm9/yEJryaPJaCoIi53/mK+GvxB0Yhd0bNQiHFRhO9aqFPOy+j8jygfn2jVa JBRsw2876uHwume6YoLEsxyOBIzyDfAAwmVzp0wnF4glZ3iZ2FDfoPdLfWg7r0700YEk YglnLWsiaqkVeLMouNOHj4FFlUKUNdPUgMJKo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=anY5jobNEZmplSno3RCIt9Abzye6l0b1q0Er3WZzAmXRBEHjN4YlXt2WYUfRstFQSK A4yHDfQlDwB0YJuqiNFjaYlUw5h3Escp4daETqi4Qz98eTXgxWljXAeuTVOCZ75cSaPE 35iGw390Xx7/M4eDsR3d4Rwzy0YbyC1GnUtmo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0907101144v778df295p3e36893032224f69@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:51:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:51:26 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: > Whenever you look at forms of music outside of the mainstream, there will= be > a huge decrease in audience size. =A0A big part of it is that the marketi= ng > simply doesn't exist. =A0When you are bombarded with mainstream music on > radio, on television, in elevators, on hold on your telephone, and > everywhere else, you expect music to sound a certain way. =A0Deviation fr= om > the accepted sound is weird and nobody wants to listen to that. =A0At lea= st, > that is basically what we are brainwashed into believing. I used to think like that, but to be honest, I don't any more. I think it's too easy to blame "the man" when in actuality people just prefer music when it's in a certain format. I know zero people who are into instrumental music who are not musicians. More people were musicians in the past because there was no such thing as a "recording." If you wanted to hear something you had to play it or have someone play it for you. Edison screwed that up. ;) Now when people are very used to getting their music in a recorded format they don't often choose instrumental music unless it's for the sole purpose of being the backdrop to a dance club. So add a general distaste for instrumental music, then add the often meandering nature of improvised instrumental music... and you have an audience of musicians and not much else. I think that's good though. Little odd niches are kind of like a memetic mutation factor that helps fuel change in all art. Dada started out as a bunch of artists talking to each other about the dissatisfaction with the rigid rules of the art world and 80 or so years later we have Raygun Magazine. How many people have David Torn CDs? How many people have David Bowie's Heathen? It's not because one is better or marketed better. I just think people like the format that David Bowie writes in more. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 10 22:55:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFC713BE85; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1247266552; bh=IWi6qiB3yq2Sey02EDLDa/3hsISu0zw8ilvISgdmVtc=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SG1moXddKUgCPwobff0r1igQZI07btYeU6h/uXXm6gre+EeCtYYW9dCYpHVe2yX2+ vw/QTII2JrLe0J1d7sMIDouKndnHlbVIonh89Cyu4/8bhYgDYvA8Jhdxoh+kXwGeQV QgcZd6z4dqhm+f1ECHkyE94ccG0ThBhasSuQqlMg= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: OT: Goodbye my friend (live improv) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:55:03 +0200 Message-ID: <000601ca01b1$76b34620$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcoBsXRvLSVSMQWbSryrdOXEwF2DNg== Importance: Normal X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:55:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a kind of special live improv. I recorded it this afternoon and = it's dedicated to a good friend and musician of mine we lost this week. We = played together several times, he used soundscapes of mine as an intro for his band, I played with his 2 brothers too, he was a friend for many people. I'm normally not as "open" on this list but today was a though day and I felt the need to write a song, dedicate it to Tom and send it out. http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/20_Goodbye_my_friend.mp3 ---=20 Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20 http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 00:17:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE85B3BE7C; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:17:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cxkjtbvHfat3yKDQQZNP9n324J7bkrJs4t4I9fURmN0=; b=wVNOtlR07on0davwmnrqJWLkR8i2ShwavW9NdICDlQGQ5CmdPTw02cCudvmcF1CG1i tL5XL8jYKksvQ2PlLxt20hgWqhnuxrJE/cxW/AF8loT28AvsWNQXiC7Lu8DpBpz8UXEt Yaf3RhYeF+r+GD8Nqzozvx6HFBeEoxXO0wWDc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=unwwKiP8oM6hEt48sBNEmMWrz/VHPe/BnHnspvZgI57AQAbS+HITAl7O3g9OU+FlnQ YhY04WzwX//KQXeic/TY+YUh8PnoWhU2oCNKT2r+NU4tNoxejOuquSE9Mj7NtYLu3Ty1 L7B143shMCFsCwreu0ZBYC2t2nySHa93mQfNU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <001c01ca0134$c69d86a0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:17:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What to do as an unknown artist (by Trent Reznor) From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6tCxPB.A.haB.io9VKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:17:38 +0000 (UTC) Basically I agree with him when it comes to building web presence, doing what you can to put music in front of as many people as possible, and yes, acknowledging that the days of making a long-term living based on cd sales are probably over (unless you sign with a major label AND are wildly successful). I feel differently about the "give it away" strategy. Having a decent amount of your music freely and widely available (such as online) means you won't have "unavailability" as a roadblock to your success. That's different than saying it will bring you success: A) There are so many musicians in the world climbing over each other for fame, that giving away your music doesn't mean that potential "fans" will find it. For example, when I log into emusic, *looking for music*, there are thousands of cds from which I can hear free samples, but I steer towards ones that look like they'd be something I'd like. In other words, the suggestion that 'giving away your music for free is the path to more listeners' doesn't account for taste, or the searching habits of the listening audience. B) Handing your cd to people who haven't expressed an interest in your music won't win you many more listeners, unless your music is universally mind-blowingly awesome for everybody. I receive a lot CDs from artists in this way, and many of them are still in the shrinkwrap. There's an odd phenomenon in the SF bay area where aspiring rappers will try to give their demo cds to random passersby at the subway stations. Desperation doesn't generate interest in an artist. To me there's a big difference between an artist who has a stack of cds to give away (good) and an artist who tries to make sure everyone leaves with a copy (not as good). C) One key to success is "Be a talented artist who uniquely does things that people want to listen to." That's a far way away from me saying, "Make pop music". Every genre of music, no matter how non-mainstream, has figures who've gained that coveted notoriety. In each case, there's some sort of talent involved (good decision-making, performing skill, a sensitive ear, songwriting, etc), it's something that people want to listen to, and there's a unique quality that keep bringing listeners back to that particular artist. The tough part for us unknowns is that if we're doing something that we already know people want to listen to, there's a good chance we're not being very unique. We have to come up with something that's completely our own and hope people like it. In other words, luck. D) Another key to success is, "Get important people to talk about your music." There has to be folks who are not you, not your friend/wife/relative, and not coerced by you, who think that your music is so good that they can't stop talking about it. These folks needs to be in a position where people are paying attention, such as a radio dj, well-read music blogger, etc. Otherwise, the only people who will find out about your awesome music will be the people you directly tell. Of course, as a non-successful artist, I have about as much business discussing this as Trent Reznor, except from the other end of the spectrum. Matt Davignon Tour! www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106347439 > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Michael Peters wrote: >> very good !! >> >>> Mr. Reznor seems like an odd source of advice for "unknown" musicians, but >> I think most of what he says is pretty sound: >>> >> http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/trent-manifesto-my-thoughts-what-do-n >> ewunknown-artist/ >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 00:56:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E26DD3BE77; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vj65q4v764dEiE0SkslCHYdBlmJI0JFYZKpwASaXD40=; b=clBGiu652+bZBaEbiHgWQ9im20jIPbYYVTmna3p6HMQ+3p5L7yO0rvYAvD8LGu3nHT TO92u83QrXt/BEffYUW8rVd7YzdeU4gW52lAbNQUOJtczwH9i6Yg95IS/K7fg1IqML+g Zfta8AVVz/cKVsPrgEX9V8IWTewov8C6WI9RI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=a8teuC5ivmQjZKpmB5aalUnYk95MnjLOTlbKI2qX0/xdvUCIz6PHHLWhWB/yK2Am+f /XeSTD3uuNQfo2IVypzvDkXWbrHIZ019EU/EyskdZ6iOjkX8riddiKciJ49w6jIyHeVq CZDCa9mOUWsPWJGav5mJw5K1y1VPV09u1RC40= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:56:58 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Zero People (was: ambivalent feelings) From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Mark Sottilaro was like: > I know zero people who are into instrumental music who are not musicians. pish-posh! You're just not paying attention to a bunch of genres of wildly popular instrumental music: classical jazz techno (especially IDM, d&b, and "trance") ambient new age movie scores and heck, I'd count 20 minute Grateful Dead jams too, even if they're bookended with vocals. I'd agree with a sentiment that you seem to be heading towards, which is that a lot of people choose the music they listen to based on non-musical reasons. People who don't pay too much attention to music often pick something because they like the stage persona of the singer. On the other hand, if you look at bands and albums people really like, many of them are due more to the qualities of the music than the lyrics or band's image. (Look at the success of Pink Floyd, Radiohead, Jimi Hendryx, M.I.A, Talking Heads, Nirvana, prog rock and probably even most 80's synthpop.) That suggests to me that a good deal of people have an ear for sounds whether they know it or not. 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================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 01:15:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8CA33BE7C; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:15:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=a90QNFrN2bZZH8lhbtkNSsMSZKi/nxIVhVJOHMqgZIA=; b=BwCo9HCbh/UJeEBMkza7o5Uwaiq5b2P3dNWDH9FK8QxaX41Un9xlaVsZdy4HE/x17j pUjBvaJukjyoh1CdQR0XNtBm1Vk69PN83S73nombPxXyVwm2kZ6OoiLjm3LX9vkIAvIj J+syRvG9+9OIpBviXajq3QSBOe2IPhGQS/sIk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=E5Qgd1M2k38ssjqT+jrX1kbOcDRTSHaBjy/KloowsITSYUAeVC93J9+ZQYUasWsiiV tvQs1A97Ci/HahKEAvUhm9gQPaYwDfnUZQkkH1/Lgkw5+063H4bYeLC8JgsjqxtYQuan eEQV1N/7tj5CDIXoo6RwMrKYQsKlxVFzgMMwQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000601ca01b1$76b34620$020313ac@PIPO> References: <000601ca01b1$76b34620$020313ac@PIPO> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:15:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Goodbye my friend (live improv) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f7cbfa5f056d046e63d1f2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:15:01 +0000 (UTC) --001485f7cbfa5f056d046e63d1f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit that was absolutely beautiful sjaak i feel so blessed to be able to express my deepest emotions through music and it's wonderful to be able to hear another doing so my sympathies to you and the family of your dear friend sim On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Sjaak wrote: > This is a kind of special live improv. I recorded it this afternoon and > it's > dedicated to a good friend and musician of mine we lost this week. We > played > together several times, he used soundscapes of mine as an intro for his > band, I played with his 2 brothers too, he was a friend for many people. > > I'm normally not as "open" on this list but today was a though day and I > felt the need to write a song, dedicate it to Tom and send it out. > > http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/20_Goodbye_my_friend.mp3 > > --- > Sjaak > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > > > --001485f7cbfa5f056d046e63d1f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that was absolutely beautiful sjaak

i feel so blessed to be able to = express my deepest emotions through music and it's wonderful to be able= to hear another doing so

my sympathies to you and the family of you= r dear friend

sim

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:55 PM,= Sjaak <tcplugi= n@scarlet.be> wrote:
This is a kind of special live improv. I recorded it this afternoon and it&= #39;s
dedicated to a good friend and musician of mine we lost this week. We playe= d
together several times, he used soundscapes of mine as an intro for his
band, I played with his 2 brothers too, he was a friend for many people.
I'm normally not as "open" on this list but today was a thoug= h day and I
felt the need to write a song, dedicate it to Tom and send it out.

http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/20_Goodbye_my_frien= d.mp3

---
Sjaak
http://sjaakoverga= auw.com/
http://euroloopfest.= com/



--001485f7cbfa5f056d046e63d1f2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 01:20:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E7A33BE7F; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qm0LnbRs4FU3IQT7KJTsepeX/ocvrkaCfy/icr6jbNE=; b=yB6xiNI43pQJlg/Dy+qMHm0oVdzbLzNaUGdlsHVwnadjZQ+glPS3Q/ANyfN2gKg2os ol6YKl1Q9/piGRZYh6RSBJ1iFM7n1HYUuP54fhkT502Rvn6qalXoxNx9InQEYTGqqapp tQ5rB9W4KAGF2V4brbxPXOZZXT7mamL0oJm8E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PbAS2hIG7X6jaB3u7CpWlqvPytECyWA/qPQND2QrzVHTiBxMG3SyJe2314MyqV7884 7LA3+LH36MlpARSr5RZanA905mdS4JxBq0pQBtuGXEVbb4GWe+rklMYe/BS3Nd58TMtm bt64rVs3ZCPCOUW88JdFZTq2Suh/Nl5dO6BCk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:20:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Zero People (was: ambivalent feelings) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:20:46 +0000 (UTC) I totally agree with that Matt, except for Trance which is just sonic wallpaper for a dance club for the most part. Yup, people are into all of those genres, but my guess is that if you look at most people's iPods (including mine) the percentage of those is shockingly low compared to your basic standard pop song structured based music. On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Matt Davignon wrot= e: > Mark Sottilaro was like: > >> I know zero people who are into =A0instrumental music who are not musici= ans. > > pish-posh! You're just not paying attention to a bunch of genres of > wildly popular instrumental music: > > classical > jazz > techno (especially IDM, d&b, and "trance") > ambient > new age > movie scores > and heck, I'd count 20 minute Grateful Dead jams too, even if they're > bookended with vocals. > > I'd agree with a sentiment that you seem to be heading towards, which > is that a lot of people choose the music they listen to based on > non-musical reasons. People who don't pay too much attention to music > often pick something because they like the stage persona of the > singer. > > On the other hand, if you look at bands and albums people really like, > many of them are due more to the qualities of the music than the > lyrics or band's image. (Look at the success of Pink Floyd, Radiohead, > Jimi Hendryx, M.I.A, Talking Heads, Nirvana, prog rock and probably > even most 80's synthpop.) That suggests to me that a good deal of > people have an ear for sounds whether they know it or not. > > Matt Davignon > Tour! www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 01:33:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F42D3BE7C; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:33:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UW1Vc4pM4B6N77aO15HJpnSPBtfEPeIn/V1X7ChFSno=; b=pT/pNit+LcFxseciNn+U1qh40p4W+PftSk0TdiUqnMl+43WdVOYvY/eBSa+KpuiGhr c+QL6S60kkqGAfz7LyBWMIvHQXKk5LtKjVBAn587wvWZmseMCwZ8wD4eHq0TIEkO7biv cSUaov0uP5Sod3+cKz5Jf9bMzGSOkuHtMradI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RzGcKjBnF8N+BvjK7YMVOaCExaAS3aaA6Br+rJrtdd8HCcFKeMQxxvHIdy7DQXHySb iDXGWc4igBy8ej9aprmxMwW5QU8MDJwC2q+B3FYJmn7XSCoMyko6bKqVDnJvn5/GxuTz Ml6ugHqYI43q8EY51U3ikIEA9TFEhCI3pkjRE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:33:16 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Zero People (was: ambivalent feelings) From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:33:17 +0000 (UTC) Heck, even my ipod has a lot of pop song structured music, but it's on there for mostly musical reasons. But let's say that 10% of the music on people's ipods is instrumental. Or even 5%. That's still a heck of a lot of music being listened to on a global scale. Even if we take your original assertion that only musicians listen to instrumental music. That's still a ton of people. I dunno... to be honest I forget exactly what the argument was about. Matt Davignon Tour! www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Mark Sottilaro wro= te: > I totally agree with that Matt, except for Trance which is just sonic > wallpaper for a dance club for the most part. =A0Yup, people are into > all of those genres, but my guess is that if you look at most people's > iPods (including mine) the percentage of those is shockingly low > compared to your basic standard pop song structured based music. > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Matt Davignon wr= ote: >> Mark Sottilaro was like: >> >>> I know zero people who are into =A0instrumental music who are not music= ians. >> >> pish-posh! You're just not paying attention to a bunch of genres of >> wildly popular instrumental music: >> >> classical >> jazz >> techno (especially IDM, d&b, and "trance") >> ambient >> new age >> movie scores >> and heck, I'd count 20 minute Grateful Dead jams too, even if they're >> bookended with vocals. >> >> I'd agree with a sentiment that you seem to be heading towards, which >> is that a lot of people choose the music they listen to based on >> non-musical reasons. People who don't pay too much attention to music >> often pick something because they like the stage persona of the >> singer. >> >> On the other hand, if you look at bands and albums people really like, >> many of them are due more to the qualities of the music than the >> lyrics or band's image. (Look at the success of Pink Floyd, Radiohead, >> Jimi Hendryx, M.I.A, Talking Heads, Nirvana, prog rock and probably >> even most 80's synthpop.) That suggests to me that a good deal of >> people have an ear for sounds whether they know it or not. >> >> Matt Davignon >> Tour! www.ribosomemusic.com >> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt >> >> > > --=20 Matt Davignon Tour! www.ribosomemusic.com Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 03:00:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 216703BE7E; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:00:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <000601ca01b1$76b34620$020313ac@PIPO> References: <000601ca01b1$76b34620$020313ac@PIPO> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: OT: Goodbye my friend (live improv) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:00:36 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:00:41 +0000 (UTC) Very nice Sjaak. On Jul 10, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Sjaak wrote: > This is a kind of special live improv. I recorded it this afternoon > and it's > dedicated to a good friend and musician of mine we lost this week. We > played > together several times, he used soundscapes of mine as an intro for his > band, I played with his 2 brothers too, he was a friend for many > people. > > I'm normally not as "open" on this list but today was a though day and > I > felt the need to write a song, dedicate it to Tom and send it out. > > http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/20_Goodbye_my_friend.mp3 > > --- > Sjaak > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 03:05:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 891C73BE7F; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:05:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1220 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:05:36 UTC Message-Id: <87271D05-B639-42FA-A3C4-C95460F3D854@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Zero People (was: ambivalent feelings) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:45:13 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Server-Quench: dcc189e0-6dc4-11de-a75d-001871e930f4 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwRcfTALAxpo UEhAUlJRHgFtCx0E SBwaTBhxdxtAcWBx ZkJ9XHVZWVt6Oxh7 MEwOYTtaZWNnaGQd HkdZdU0AI1BLdhYQ ak15ACAJfGQGMi99 FlBuM3VpZWwPd31Y E1pVIw4Ee0tZVgwx XRdKJTgoBUkID2Us Jgd0YlcZFkcPO0E/ N0dpV18VNx4UBRYf d2l0 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.cat.dmpriest.net.uk:1562/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: <-9E3o.A.FHH.BGAWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:05:37 +0000 (UTC) matt, i think that i now my new favorite thing to say. thanks for that! pish-posh! z On Jul 10, 2009, at 5:56 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > pish-posh From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 07:17:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6718A3BE77; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pMtNdtTKdqmnDTiQf+VT2wEbVkpOTE5Hp0DfZAmpgfY=; b=riSmiEQE8C2mVZ+y+qKU3vMHiR8WPBIJb/HcJJF4jrbpgrGuzNU1bY1l73zQbzVVEv p1JPTFPPHkx1iU02DrwMWy5mKI7CQOsB0qFRSpB2nQSmKV9B6PfaojdxiExKptz+ppyz OxZccwA4BkA9d8EmSA/lQ+JqrQ9B7rrmH33m0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ZLwGGADsI9OVz4LkSufJeFHlX1k6R+wJIZRIhwgak9LL3vqKQpxK2RpOaFUE4RXWwL eLvqehiohqRySSIKTVazZCrUbPVEOlmScuXqmaqWYnZWTsv1YgcrfPIb3h1vuX+cjrrp sXKLhMXbtOncczXsvJYXB4At3gQaGqF9cB1Qs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <000301ca01ab$c594a910$020313ac@PIPO> References: <000301ca01ab$c594a910$020313ac@PIPO> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:16:57 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 52f7a627fe79d43d Message-ID: Subject: Re: new live videos (Improvizone/Darkroom) From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:17:00 +0000 (UTC) pretty sure he was wearing earbuds - maybe just on the side of his head you don't see in the video! cheers, os. 2009/7/10 Sjaak : > Os, as always, very good ;) > > Btw: I noticed Andrew Booker didn't use headphones or in-ears this time to > "sync" to your loops (he played acoustic). Did he just listen to you and > Mike? > --- > Sjaak > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > > > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 07:40:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD9B23BE78; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:40:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=FBb883oP3AhIlOvAHVJa0nY81BlWbMBR3M41NqVO2Qw=; b=x4MAodH3kaUHymtOA4Z30SkpaHx9CGXXRD2YnnK9c/YdmATa+8mdxo29zqOKZSZMyZ 7+H5UThsgQAQZMYB4cRdG+eLXKO+ZyE/m9vKxJXiy602gxl6SRcpUbaO+hBkxkyri/Y6 eZ9gZgAmfdICfOxhM+tZ9TIdhlV6YCi2xdKXo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=w0YSZZvS+RSt4RdGJcQ8qx5HX4y7bkv1jn5p7LYNdS1t4ErK0IxzBsVhDf8ybRv6Zu A97b7SLFWzpIID3cgfVCl75RfaiCeoJflkAh0H5adwdRWJkho7iB5icp95tsyWAY65j2 RQDm4z9MZ+glXgliiIb8Eb+RxpV/urkFRda+U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <87271D05-B639-42FA-A3C4-C95460F3D854@zoekeating.com> References: <87271D05-B639-42FA-A3C4-C95460F3D854@zoekeating.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:40:28 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2198b498f7c0b0d8 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907110040w150c7f6ajc12ce57842115110@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Zero People (was: ambivalent feelings) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be8541601af046e69352b Resent-Message-ID: <4eKkE.A.pCG.CIEWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:40:50 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be8541601af046e69352b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pish posh indeed Sir!! I hate NON instrumental music.. I put up with songs, cos most best music is covered in singing... Lyrics.. GOD.. dont get me started.. maybe when I was 18 I though it was romantic to sing about love, rebellious to sing about Politics and Cool to sing about Death... but er... I was wrong! Songs are almost always CRAP... (Beatles Songs exception, Tom Wait lyrics also) Of course Pop music usually HAS to have some dumb singer warbling ontop, and some are ok to listen to as an instument... (I love the Lydon sneers, I love the Beefheart coughs, I love the Cocteau elvish..) Every thing you say is true however, about MOST PEOPLE listening to only songs... but... wait a goddam minute... isnt Hip Hop Instrumental music... you cant really call Rapping singing... its poetry.. so Maybe MOST people are listening to Poety nowadays... Personally Im into Keats rather than.. (insert current rap artist of choice) Yes.. but... I agree with Matt >I dunno... to be honest I forget exactly what the argument was about. I just wanted to write Pish Posh! m On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Zoe Keating wrote: > matt, > > i think that i now my new favorite thing to say. > > thanks for that! > > pish-posh! > > z > > On Jul 10, 2009, at 5:56 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > > pish-posh >> > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174be8541601af046e69352b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pish posh indeed Sir!!

I hate NON instrumental music.. I put up with= songs, cos most best music is covered in singing... Lyrics.. GOD.. dont ge= t me started.. maybe when I was 18 I though it was romantic to sing about l= ove, rebellious to sing about Politics and Cool to sing about Death... but = er... I was wrong! Songs are almost always CRAP... (Beatles Songs exception= , Tom Wait lyrics also) Of course Pop music usually HAS to have some dumb s= inger warbling ontop, and some are ok to listen to as an instument... (I lo= ve the Lydon sneers, I love the Beefheart coughs, I love the Cocteau elvish= ..)

Every thing you say is true however, about MOST PEOPLE listening to onl= y songs... but... wait a goddam minute... isnt Hip Hop Instrumental music..= . you cant really call Rapping singing... its poetry.. so Maybe MOST people= are listening to Poety nowadays... Personally Im into Keats rather than.. = (insert current rap artist of choice)

Yes.. but... I agree with Matt

>I dunno... to be honest I for= get exactly what the argument was about.

I just wanted to write Pish= Posh!

m





On Sat, J= ul 11, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Zoe Keating <info@zoekeating.com> = wrote:
matt,

i think that i now my new favorite thing to say.

thanks for that!

pish-posh!

z

On Jul 10, 2009, at 5:56 PM, Matt Davignon wrote:

pish-posh




--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094=
http= ://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://w= ww.myspace.com/markfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/sh= op/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
--0015174be8541601af046e69352b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 08:27:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D5253BE7E; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A584CCC.3090301@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:26:52 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To The AM/FM Show Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:27:03 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, June 11 at 6:00 am (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00). I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase 1. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 08:41:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1692E3BE7F; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090711084108467.7214A7000082@mwinf2326.orange.fr Message-ID: <1DE2A8A651A545ED8CCB94BAE528B2A8@portable2jpr> From: "Jean Philippe" To: Subject: What happened to my repeater ? ! Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:41:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01CA0214.1B8EDF30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:41:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CA0214.1B8EDF30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there, I hadn't used my repeater for a bit, and it's acting weird now.=20 When overdubbing , what I just played comes out with a small but very = noticeable delay against what was previously on the track, I would say = about 30 ms. I have software 2.1, and unpowering the machine doesn't do = any good. I don't even know if there is a way to reset it completely. Since the Electrix site and forum are closed, you're my only hope. Thanks for your help, Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CA0214.1B8EDF30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi there,
I hadn't used my repeater = for a bit,=20 and it's acting weird now.
When overdubbing , what I just = played comes=20 out with a small but very noticeable delay against what was previously = on the=20 track, I would say about 30 ms. I have software 2.1, and unpowering the = machine=20 doesn't do any good. I don't even know if there is a way to reset it=20 completely.
Since the Electrix site and forum are closed, you're my = only=20 hope.
Thanks for your help,
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01CA0214.1B8EDF30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 08:43:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B10543BE78; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <00a101c9ffee$f5541f00$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A54DA8A.2070401@netcologne.de> Subject: two little guitar loops Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:38:21 +0200 Message-ID: <003701ca0202$f5bb6690$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01CA0213.B946A790" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4A54DA8A.2070401@netcologne.de> Thread-Index: Acn/9Kyf6ETC15DBTS6fFs0jUYY48wBWyekw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.204; VDF: 7.1.4.217) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:43:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01CA0213.B946A790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit for those who haven't listened to it on Facebook: here are two quite different guitar loops that I did on Friday. afternoon: a "plain vanilla" Frippertronics style loop with the usual RF inspired solo http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/MichaelPeters20090709. mp3 evening: a more atonal guitar improvisation with Stefan Tiedje doing live treatments & loops using his "Ondes Memorielles" Max/MSP system http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/HitchhikersDiary200907 09.mp3 enjoy! -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01CA0213.B946A790 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
for those who haven't = listened to=20 it on Facebook: 
here are two quite = different guitar=20 loops that I did on Friday.
 
afternoon: a "plain = vanilla"=20 Frippertronics style loop with the usual RF inspired=20 solo
http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/Mic= haelPeters20090709.mp3
 
evening: a more atonal guitar improvisation = with Stefan=20 Tiedje doing live treatments & loops using his "Ondes Memorielles" = Max/MSP=20 system
http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/Hitchhiker= sDiary20090709.mp3 
 
enjoy!
 
-Michael
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0038_01CA0213.B946A790-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 09:10:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C5A93BE77; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:10:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e9c0e916-826c-4693-a90d-380a0c7d2e00_" X-Originating-IP: [207.119.202.51] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: What happened to my repeater ? ! Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:10:55 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1DE2A8A651A545ED8CCB94BAE528B2A8@portable2jpr> References: <1DE2A8A651A545ED8CCB94BAE528B2A8@portable2jpr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2009 09:10:55.0797 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F57D650:01CA0207] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:10:56 +0000 (UTC) --_e9c0e916-826c-4693-a90d-380a0c7d2e00_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i owned 4 of those darn things once upon a time and for the life of me i ca= nt remember if you can reset to factory defaults- just read through the booklet=2C i dont think its possible- ild say switch out all cables involved and if that doesnt work=2C re-instal= l the operating system probably didnt help ya at all=2C but the important thing is that you just e= arned a fan for life- im a first time listener=2C and am completely captivated by the intricacy o= f your music salut! fro From: jp.rykiel@orange.fr To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: What happened to my repeater ? ! Date: Sat=2C 11 Jul 2009 10:41:11 +0200 Hi there=2C I hadn't used my repeater for a bit=2C=20 and it's acting weird now.=20 When overdubbing =2C what I just played comes=20 out with a small but very noticeable delay against what was previously on t= he=20 track=2C I would say about 30 ms. I have software 2.1=2C and unpowering the= machine=20 doesn't do any good. I don't even know if there is a way to reset it=20 completely. Since the Electrix site and forum are closed=2C you're my only=20 hope. Thanks for your help=2C Cheers=2C JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync.=20 http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009= --_e9c0e916-826c-4693-a90d-380a0c7d2e00_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i owned 4 of those darn things once upon a time and for the life of me i ca= nt remember if you can reset to factory defaults-
just read through the = booklet=2C i dont think its possible-
ild say switch out all cables invo= lved and if that doesnt work=2C re-install the operating system

prob= ably didnt help ya at all=2C but the important thing is that you just earne= d a fan for life-
im a first time listener=2C and am completely captivat= ed by the intricacy of your music

salut!

fro



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From: jp.rykiel@orange.fr
To: Loopers= -Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: What happened to my repeater ? !Date: Sat=2C 11 Jul 2009 10:41:11 +0200

Hi there=2C
I hadn't used my repeat= er for a bit=2C=20 and it's acting weird now.
When =3Boverdubbing =2C what I jus= t played comes=20 out with a small but very noticeable delay against what was previously on t= he=20 track=2C I would say about 30 ms. I have software 2.1=2C and unpowering the= machine=20 doesn't do any good. I don't even know if there is a way to reset it=20 completely.
Since the Electrix site and forum are closed=2C you're my on= ly=20 hope.
Thanks for your help=2C
Cheers=2C
JPR

Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. = --_e9c0e916-826c-4693-a90d-380a0c7d2e00_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 09:15:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0794A3BE7F; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:15:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 574 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:15:14 UTC X-Trace: 231479619/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4/None/nick@1957.me.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmICAF/yV0o+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAIgnnKSoIpB4FZBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,383,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="231479619" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Trevor Van Eyck Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:05:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: For the JamMan Users out there... Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4A5863EB.30790.1DC9DA@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:15:14 +0000 (UTC) On 8 Jul 2009 at 17:12, Trevor Van Eyck wrote: > Anyone out there still using the Lexicon JamMan? Indeed there are - unable to strectch to a looperlative or echoplex, mine is the core of my looping setup. See http://www.nickrobinson.info/music/tech/tech.htm > a) Non-Midi Foot Switches: I've been using the Boss FS-5U and it's The supplied switches are useless. In the past, I used a Behringer AB200 (great, cheap, if a little flimsy) but to get the most from the unit, you need a programmable midi pedal. > small MIDI pedal with 2-4 switches that works well with the JamMan? I fear not and believe me, I've looked. The problem is programmability - to access the features I want, standard midi pedal patch assignment won't deliver - you have to alter both bank and patch to meet the jammans internal patch spec. I use the FCB1010 and aside from being the size of Wales, it does everything you could possibly want and the free editor software makes life so easy. The Gordius range looks superb, but are out of my price range and possibly even over-featured for controlling a jamman. I've never understood why suppliers can't see a market for a small (say 2*3 switch) pedal that can be programmed for basic CC and patch change with none of the fancy features. > c) Memory Expansion chips: Anyone located the chips at a good price To get the most from it, you need the full expansion. After about 6 years of use, I discovered (RTFM!) the jamman can produced multiple synced loops, which the FCB can switch in/out and even control via the expression pedals. To achieve each extra layer, you need double the memory needs of the first loop. However, the jamman is still a tad complex for live work, unless you enjoy tap dancing. I'm currently saving my pennies for this beast http://boomerangmusic.com/Rang%20III.html Which looks like it will suit all my looping needs without use of midi. It's also in stereo, which I miss on the jamman. If you like forums (forii?) you might want to sign up here http://loopingmusic.proboards.com with 92 members and 600 odd posts, it's great if you find the stream of messages from this mailing list a bit much. There's a section on the jamman. Nick Robinson music site : http://www.nickrobinson.info/music myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 09:41:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 159B53BE75; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090711094103429.68C0A7000085@mwinf2322.orange.fr Message-ID: <541F1AD705DF449DAAB509806FEEECC3@portable2jpr> From: "Jean Philippe" To: References: <1DE2A8A651A545ED8CCB94BAE528B2A8@portable2jpr> Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:41:06 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA021C.7A4543E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <6JUuRD.A.LrC.w4FWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:41:05 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA021C.7A4543E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Fro, I'm very glad to hear that you liked my music. It's very encouraging = because it's the kind of music that doesn't sell these days since it's a = little too far from what people call electronic music. Thanks again. Back to the subject, do you think there is a replacement unit for the = repeater if I cannot get it to work properly. I thought of the RC 50 but = it doesn't look as straightforward as the repeater was. Yet it's the = only multitrack hardware loop machine I know of. Of course, I would love to go Ableton but it's yet impossible for = visually impaired users. Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: FRO DIDDLY=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: RE: What happened to my repeater ? ! i owned 4 of those darn things once upon a time and for the life of me = i cant remember if you can reset to factory defaults- just read through the booklet, i dont think its possible- ild say switch out all cables involved and if that doesnt work, = re-install the operating system probably didnt help ya at all, but the important thing is that you = just earned a fan for life- im a first time listener, and am completely captivated by the = intricacy of your music salut! fro -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: jp.rykiel@orange.fr To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: What happened to my repeater ? ! Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:41:11 +0200 Hi there, I hadn't used my repeater for a bit, and it's acting weird now.=20 When overdubbing , what I just played comes out with a small but very = noticeable delay against what was previously on the track, I would say = about 30 ms. I have software 2.1, and unpowering the machine doesn't do = any good. I don't even know if there is a way to reset it completely. Since the Electrix site and forum are closed, you're my only hope. Thanks for your help, Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA021C.7A4543E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Fro,
I'm very glad to hear that you liked my music. = It's very=20 encouraging because it's the kind of music that doesn't sell these=20 days since it's a little too far from what people call = electronic=20 music.
Thanks again.
Back to the subject, do you think there is a=20 replacement unit for the repeater if I cannot get it to work properly. I = thought=20 of the RC 50 but it doesn't look as straightforward as the repeater was. = Yet=20 it's the only multitrack hardware loop machine I know of.
Of course, = I would=20 love to go Ableton but it's yet impossible for visually impaired=20 users.
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 FRO=20 DIDDLY
To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 = 11:10=20 AM
Subject: RE: What happened to = my repeater=20 ? !

i = owned 4 of=20 those darn things once upon a time and for the life of me i cant = remember if=20 you can reset to factory defaults-
just read through the booklet, i = dont=20 think its possible-
ild say switch out all cables involved and if = that=20 doesnt work, re-install the operating system

probably didnt = help ya at=20 all, but the important thing is that you just earned a fan for = life-
im a=20 first time listener, and am completely captivated by the intricacy of = your=20 music

salut!

fro






From: jp.rykiel@orange.fr
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: What happened to my = repeater ?=20 !
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:41:11 +0200

Hi there,
I hadn't used my = repeater for a bit,=20 and it's acting weird now.
When overdubbing , what I just = played comes=20 out with a small but very noticeable delay against what was previously = on the=20 track, I would say about 30 ms. I have software 2.1, and unpowering = the=20 machine doesn't do any good. I don't even know if there is a way to = reset it=20 completely.
Since the Electrix site and forum are closed, you're my = only=20 hope.
Thanks for your help,
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel

Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA021C.7A4543E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 10:13:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 819CA3BE78; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:13:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090711101316785.BFBEF1C0009E@mwinf2341.orange.fr Message-ID: <64B1E03130BE40BA925006108B02A92D@portable2jpr> From: "Jean Philippe" To: References: <1DE2A8A651A545ED8CCB94BAE528B2A8@portable2jpr> <541F1AD705DF449DAAB509806FEEECC3@portable2jpr> Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:13:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01CA0220.FA9FB4E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:13:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01CA0220.FA9FB4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, me again. If someone could give me detailed instructions about reinstalling the = repeater software, that would be very kind because I lost them. The = software itself contains several files and I remember that they had to = be installed in a specific order, but no idea which. Thanks for your help. Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jean Philippe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! Dear Fro, I'm very glad to hear that you liked my music. It's very encouraging = because it's the kind of music that doesn't sell these days since it's a = little too far from what people call electronic music. Thanks again. Back to the subject, do you think there is a replacement unit for the = repeater if I cannot get it to work properly. I thought of the RC 50 but = it doesn't look as straightforward as the repeater was. Yet it's the = only multitrack hardware loop machine I know of. Of course, I would love to go Ableton but it's yet impossible for = visually impaired users. Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: FRO DIDDLY=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: RE: What happened to my repeater ? ! i owned 4 of those darn things once upon a time and for the life of = me i cant remember if you can reset to factory defaults- just read through the booklet, i dont think its possible- ild say switch out all cables involved and if that doesnt work, = re-install the operating system probably didnt help ya at all, but the important thing is that you = just earned a fan for life- im a first time listener, and am completely captivated by the = intricacy of your music salut! fro -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: jp.rykiel@orange.fr To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: What happened to my repeater ? ! Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:41:11 +0200 Hi there, I hadn't used my repeater for a bit, and it's acting weird now.=20 When overdubbing , what I just played comes out with a small but = very noticeable delay against what was previously on the track, I would = say about 30 ms. I have software 2.1, and unpowering the machine doesn't = do any good. I don't even know if there is a way to reset it completely. Since the Electrix site and forum are closed, you're my only hope. Thanks for your help, Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01CA0220.FA9FB4E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, me again.
If someone could give me = detailed=20 instructions about reinstalling the repeater software, that would be = very kind=20 because I lost them. The software itself contains several files and I = remember=20 that they had to be installed in a specific order, but no idea = which.
Thanks=20 for your help.
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jean=20 Philippe
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 = 11:41=20 AM
Subject: Re: What happened to = my repeater=20 ? !

Dear Fro,
I'm very glad to hear that you liked my music. = It's very=20 encouraging because it's the kind of music that doesn't sell these=20 days since it's a little too far from what people call = electronic=20 music.
Thanks again.
Back to the subject, do you think there is = a=20 replacement unit for the repeater if I cannot get it to work properly. = I=20 thought of the RC 50 but it doesn't look as straightforward as the = repeater=20 was. Yet it's the only multitrack hardware loop machine I know = of.
Of=20 course, I would love to go Ableton but it's yet impossible for = visually=20 impaired users.
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 FRO=20 DIDDLY
To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 = 11:10=20 AM
Subject: RE: What happened to = my=20 repeater ? !

i = owned 4 of=20 those darn things once upon a time and for the life of me i cant = remember if=20 you can reset to factory defaults-
just read through the booklet, = i dont=20 think its possible-
ild say switch out all cables involved and if = that=20 doesnt work, re-install the operating system

probably didnt = help ya=20 at all, but the important thing is that you just earned a fan for=20 life-
im a first time listener, and am completely captivated by = the=20 intricacy of your = music

salut!

fro






From: jp.rykiel@orange.fr
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: What happened to my = repeater=20 ? !
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:41:11 +0200

Hi there,
I hadn't used my = repeater for a=20 bit, and it's acting weird now.
When overdubbing , what I just = played=20 comes out with a small but very noticeable delay against what was = previously=20 on the track, I would say about 30 ms. I have software 2.1, and = unpowering=20 the machine doesn't do any good. I don't even know if there is a way = to=20 reset it completely.
Since the Electrix site and forum are = closed, you're=20 my only hope.
Thanks for your = help,
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel

Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. = ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01CA0220.FA9FB4E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 12:17:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 553063BE7C; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:17:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ri09teY0TI5aRH3KvDPzRv1qR2L8jU7EdkEvmG9j3AQ=; b=qKEAt2f+9YYsCSJYiIkbatb9U8Kr7/jGqmU/Mq819MJPhSCaDJDddKgRWsp/WnisYX FihBNT+uNt5+S6FqjAru9S9V7XIPyhaetOFBN9/SDeWo3UmFbosk4NQ1zTqZjKU+BOYE 33OywqtcqxjjjS40HnEmke4FB5WQVXQz69su8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VSlEA6wM/Co4I5d6TeXFMCTqf9tjNWbOk1XHINU2S0D3sVvBdiNe2K77/Yl6ctz313 rkQxi8BRHknxybAmDb1QG5xXjtbrDJQCcg/UxlA3K1vewAhU9BIfovB1UaLq9+BB/kqI zMZUx1+dolIu2JKH0YHiTITYb5yE2knzOP850= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <003701ca0202$f5bb6690$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <00a101c9ffee$f5541f00$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A54DA8A.2070401@netcologne.de> <003701ca0202$f5bb6690$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:17:05 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907110517x55aa974fle60c396608e47b84@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: two little guitar loops From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:17:06 +0000 (UTC) Very inspiring music, Michael! :-) I'm finding both pieces amusing to listen to because I hear a lot of personal comments from you to other music I have myself been listening to. It's lovely to hear how you turn this stuff around in your own way. Brilliant! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > here are two quite different guitar loops that I did on=C2=A0Friday. > > afternoon: a "plain vanilla" Frippertronics style loop with the usual RF > inspired solo > http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/MichaelPeters200907= 09.mp3 > > evening: a more atonal guitar improvisation with Stefan Tiedje doing live > treatments & loops using his "Ondes Memorielles" Max/MSP system > http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/HitchhikersDiary200= 90709.mp3 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 12:34:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF1053BE79; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=O8REVY2poDyDneL1TSsob81o+HIzv5AgySXzyP87OMA=; b=YHTlneL5tvID+9CJuPfhQJ8tbPUwEsMa1b3By2DC0g1U9FUrI+47vT8WsKZ/YnGMYw jO3xOWdgD07NyH0h0t9xfdLImcXJtUqZMY9uN0Kl+VpBNnEN0UsX1oPJrFrSDJKr2z3K 6LzW+uRHUq/iPBbl+aCfkUVHOs0gnlUSVij/M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LIMHll7697pbmD3mNUVnGBFbyAdsNoSMsscbohbF7i/jUzK2ul5pMQdf67gfdtLw92 gk6xeYzfzP+cLN4jwB0n0Tn2GYtVcvteJir2mErlVRMhgQIBwFeq7QPwIcMTp+P6mRvY SZBBXUsOt6tVADOhqndeVPnpOi4WJuH60idHc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <001c01ca0134$c69d86a0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:34:12 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907110534x1cd76154tec1fa2f4c46df6c1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: What to do as an unknown artist (by Trent Reznor) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:34:17 +0000 (UTC) I totally subscribe to that, Matt! Your wise-as-trent analysis makes me feel proud to be part of "us unknowns". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > The tough part for > us unknowns is that if we're doing something that we already know > people want to listen to, there's a good chance we're not being very > unique. We have to come up with something that's completely our own > and hope people like it. In other words, luck. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 12:54:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 328753BE79; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:54:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=l27VM74qk+H1erJK6DkBSIW+GnnK8hZJuMNShCW+weY=; b=vW+jB0Wsp6jSqxpHzxc8m1xUGQl4VVT3ePdijTdjgD8gS1FJeLMOvaVG8cFRK6ub+Y PE88yJsAsiCJNshnoPBtYsuMn/tne8XGPtw45TW4K392xqHww3SthC2uzNMzv2JNtIay GCKt01wi1B4Fs6qcmHqabWaWFdyiV5qSmXtEI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=HZgdlACqolZLwZSruTF76c4m9OFGtGB/2WvI56qKUY55SwrM4aw6fn9+1wsGDQqHcW o8V03adB2cUH3JuME44PKFmp3MrmtFITSp6reimhlZiw8qEXFHRySOgA8p3NMhBl/EN7 gDAugay+L4GS6gCb0gVjtFbmpP7A/b6zpDTQU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907110534x1cd76154tec1fa2f4c46df6c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <001c01ca0134$c69d86a0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <66f9cc1e0907110534x1cd76154tec1fa2f4c46df6c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:54:11 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c40dc681bfdf8ca7 Message-ID: <101191640907110554x145e2938je7d58a118a0426b4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: What to do as an unknown artist (by Trent Reznor) From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e641fe06dae5d2046e6d955b Resent-Message-ID: <46vCfD.A.QhC.2tIWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:54:14 +0000 (UTC) --0016e641fe06dae5d2046e6d955b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit you guys are unknowns? crap, what am i doing here? :-) On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I totally subscribe to that, Matt! Your wise-as-trent analysis makes > me feel proud to be part of "us unknowns". > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Matt Davignon > wrote: > > The tough part for > > us unknowns is that if we're doing something that we already know > > people want to listen to, there's a good chance we're not being very > > unique. We have to come up with something that's completely our own > > and hope people like it. In other words, luck. > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --0016e641fe06dae5d2046e6d955b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you guys are unknowns? crap, what am i doing here? :-)

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
I totally subscri= be to that, Matt! Your wise-as-trent analysis makes
me feel proud to be part of "us unknowns".

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Matt Davignon<mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
> The tough part for
> us unknowns is that if we're doing something that we already know<= br> > people want to listen to, there's a good chance we're not bein= g very
> unique. We have to come up with something that's completely our ow= n
> and hope people like it. In other words, luck.




--
Warren
<= a href=3D"http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679">http://www.ube= too.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
http://www.warrensirota.com
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================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 13:54:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B421B3BE79; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=a6h39evoW/GLy7allR/P3tAk9U/ylPPgvUzkeL8Tmi0=; b=Uyl5R/KUjm0Ir83of5AMVieJbWCn6i+zDXmPacW1w3b2H6sYuDfvgzOR6lTD9xF5q7 2wOf6/8IK8UDkX+4AVBf8sMsGs4S+VSnUXKUTBYIN43nCzmYqEhNOP7OS1hdlGPrhOCu t8r5AW8kC5YHkgwcd1IDbQy8qct/Fm7zAo4Z8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=x2bKUcJdcAGw35sBOuJ8NbtTnrKeNby3VVQI4takf7CO3UtCyOq8ROKMpVILCApD5R ZPQoeEUUKfryaRH57UM8xx42Q05nb/ZRSFkxL6/PolTCnUHkgEQ5kMP/aGgMzgwS4mW6 nZ2nwC+r+wWrGBir1CZOS7yWTl0FdWJlXXZUY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <64B1E03130BE40BA925006108B02A92D@portable2jpr> References: <1DE2A8A651A545ED8CCB94BAE528B2A8@portable2jpr> <541F1AD705DF449DAAB509806FEEECC3@portable2jpr> <64B1E03130BE40BA925006108B02A92D@portable2jpr> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:54:25 -0500 Message-ID: <2871c3a90907110654n5576a975oe6bc7a11d5e48329@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Salut JP, voici les directives pour l'installation: Instructions for system 2.04 1- first copy RBS_P1-4.rbf and Sys2-10b04.raf onto the flash card 2- unplug power supply to repeater 3- insert flash card 4- power up repeater 5- use tempo knob to select RBS_P16 - press record to install 7- see a message to "cycle power" 8- unplug power supply to repeater 9- power up repeater 10- use tempo knob to select Sys2-10 11 -press record to install Sys2-10 12- repeater boots up with new sys2! Sylvain On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Jean Philippe wrote: > Hi, me again. > If someone could give me detailed instructions about reinstalling the > repeater software, that would be very kind because I lost them. The softw= are > itself contains several files and I remember that they had to be installe= d > in a specific order, but no idea which. > Thanks for your help. > Cheers, > JPR > http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jean Philippe > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:41 AM > Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! > Dear Fro, > I'm very glad to hear that you liked my music. It's very encouraging beca= use > it's the kind of music that doesn't sell these days=A0since=A0it's a litt= le too > far from what people call electronic music. > Thanks again. > Back to the subject, do you think there is a replacement unit for the > repeater if I cannot get it to work properly. I thought of the RC 50 but = it > doesn't look as straightforward as the repeater was. Yet it's the only > multitrack hardware loop machine I know of. > Of course, I would love to go Ableton but it's yet impossible for visuall= y > impaired users. > Cheers, > JPR > http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: FRO DIDDLY > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:10 AM > Subject: RE: What happened to my repeater ? ! > i owned 4 of those darn things once upon a time and for the life of me i > cant remember if you can reset to factory defaults- > just read through the booklet, i dont think its possible- > ild say switch out all cables involved and if that doesnt work, re-instal= l > the operating system > > probably didnt help ya at all, but the important thing is that you just > earned a fan for life- > im a first time listener, and am completely captivated by the intricacy o= f > your music > > salut! > > fro > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: jp.rykiel@orange.fr > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: What happened to my repeater ? ! > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:41:11 +0200 > > Hi there, > I hadn't used my repeater for a bit, and it's acting weird now. > When=A0overdubbing , what I just played comes out with a small but very > noticeable delay against what was previously on the track, I would say ab= out > 30 ms. I have software 2.1, and unpowering the machine doesn't do any goo= d. > I don't even know if there is a way to reset it completely. > Since the Electrix site and forum are closed, you're my only hope. > Thanks for your help, > Cheers, > JPR > http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel > > ________________________________ > Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 14:18:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D0A13BE73; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090711141851109.1AB8E7000092@mwinf2322.orange.fr Message-ID: From: "Jean Philippe" To: References: <1DE2A8A651A545ED8CCB94BAE528B2A8@portable2jpr> <541F1AD705DF449DAAB509806FEEECC3@portable2jpr> <64B1E03130BE40BA925006108B02A92D@portable2jpr> <2871c3a90907110654n5576a975oe6bc7a11d5e48329@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:18:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA0243.48F57270" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <2zjMWC.A.hrF.M9JWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:18:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA0243.48F57270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sylvain, Merci beaucoup. The funny thing is that the 2.1 version contained three = files while the 2.4 only contain two. Does it mean I would have to = reinstall the three files of 2.1 before I proceed to reinstalling 2.4 ? Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sylvain Poitras=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:54 PM Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! Salut JP, voici les directives pour l'installation: Instructions for system 2.04 1- first copy RBS_P1-4.rbf and Sys2-10b04.raf onto the flash card 2- unplug power supply to repeater 3- insert flash card 4- power up repeater 5- use tempo knob to select RBS_P16 - press record to install 7- see a message to "cycle power" 8- unplug power supply to repeater 9- power up repeater 10- use tempo knob to select Sys2-10 11 -press record to install Sys2-10 12- repeater boots up with new sys2! Sylvain On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Jean Philippe = wrote: > Hi, me again. > If someone could give me detailed instructions about reinstalling = the > repeater software, that would be very kind because I lost them. The = software > itself contains several files and I remember that they had to be = installed > in a specific order, but no idea which. > Thanks for your help. > Cheers, > JPR > http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jean Philippe > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:41 AM > Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! > Dear Fro, > I'm very glad to hear that you liked my music. It's very encouraging = because > it's the kind of music that doesn't sell these days since it's a = little too > far from what people call electronic music. > Thanks again. > Back to the subject, do you think there is a replacement unit for = the > repeater if I cannot get it to work properly. I thought of the RC 50 = but it > doesn't look as straightforward as the repeater was. Yet it's the = only > multitrack hardware loop machine I know of. > Of course, I would love to go Ableton but it's yet impossible for = visually > impaired users. > Cheers, > JPR > http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: FRO DIDDLY > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:10 AM > Subject: RE: What happened to my repeater ? ! > i owned 4 of those darn things once upon a time and for the life of = me i > cant remember if you can reset to factory defaults- > just read through the booklet, i dont think its possible- > ild say switch out all cables involved and if that doesnt work, = re-install > the operating system > > probably didnt help ya at all, but the important thing is that you = just > earned a fan for life- > im a first time listener, and am completely captivated by the = intricacy of > your music > > salut! > > fro > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: jp.rykiel@orange.fr > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: What happened to my repeater ? ! > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:41:11 +0200 > > Hi there, > I hadn't used my repeater for a bit, and it's acting weird now. > When overdubbing , what I just played comes out with a small but = very > noticeable delay against what was previously on the track, I would = say about > 30 ms. I have software 2.1, and unpowering the machine doesn't do = any good. > I don't even know if there is a way to reset it completely. > Since the Electrix site and forum are closed, you're my only hope. > Thanks for your help, > Cheers, > JPR > http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel > > ________________________________ > Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA0243.48F57270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Sylvain,
Merci beaucoup. The funny thing is that = the 2.1=20 version contained three files while the 2.4 only contain two. Does it = mean I=20 would have to reinstall the three files of 2.1 before I proceed to = reinstalling=20 2.4 ?
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Sylvain Poitras
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 = 3:54=20 PM
Subject: Re: What happened to = my repeater=20 ? !


Salut JP,
voici les directives pour=20 l'installation:

Instructions for system 2.04
1- first copy=20 RBS_P1-4.rbf  and  Sys2-10b04.raf onto the flash = card
2- =20 unplug power supply to repeater
3-  insert flash = card
4- =20 power up repeater
5-  use tempo knob to select RBS_P16 -  = press=20 record to install
7-  see a message to "cycle = power"
8- =20 unplug power supply to repeater
9-  power up repeater
10- = use tempo=20 knob to select Sys2-10
11 -press record to install Sys2-10
12- = repeater=20 boots up with new sys2!

Sylvain


On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 = at 5:13=20 AM, Jean Philippe<jp.rykiel@orange.fr> = wrote:
>=20 Hi, me again.
> If someone could give me detailed instructions = about=20 reinstalling the
> repeater software, that would be very kind = because I=20 lost them. The software
> itself contains several files and I = remember=20 that they had to be installed
> in a specific order, but no idea = which.
> Thanks for your help.
> Cheers,
> = JPR
> http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
>
>=20 ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jean Philippe
> To: = Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
>=20 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:41 AM
> Subject: Re: What = happened to=20 my repeater ? !
> Dear Fro,
> I'm very glad to hear that = you liked=20 my music. It's very encouraging because
> it's the kind of music = that=20 doesn't sell these days since it's a little too
> far from what = people=20 call electronic music.
> Thanks again.
> Back to the = subject, do=20 you think there is a replacement unit for the
> repeater if I = cannot get=20 it to work properly. I thought of the RC 50 but it
> doesn't = look as=20 straightforward as the repeater was. Yet it's the only
> = multitrack=20 hardware loop machine I know of.
> Of course, I would love to go = Ableton=20 but it's yet impossible for visually
> impaired users.
>=20 Cheers,
> JPR
> http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
>
>=20 ----- Original Message -----
> From: FRO DIDDLY
> To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com
>=20 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:10 AM
> Subject: RE: What = happened to=20 my repeater ? !
> i owned 4 of those darn things once upon a = time and=20 for the life of me i
> cant remember if you can reset to factory = defaults-
> just read through the booklet, i dont think its=20 possible-
> ild say switch out all cables involved and if that = doesnt=20 work, re-install
> the operating system
>
> probably = didnt=20 help ya at all, but the important thing is that you just
> = earned a fan=20 for life-
> im a first time listener, and am completely = captivated by=20 the intricacy of
> your music
>
> = salut!
>
>=20 fro
>
>
>
>
>
>
>=20 ________________________________
> From: jp.rykiel@orange.fr
> = To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
>=20 Subject: What happened to my repeater ? !
> Date: Sat, 11 Jul = 2009=20 10:41:11 +0200
>
> Hi there,
> I hadn't used my = repeater for=20 a bit, and it's acting weird now.
> When overdubbing , what I = just=20 played comes out with a small but very
> noticeable delay = against what=20 was previously on the track, I would say about
> 30 ms. I have = software=20 2.1, and unpowering the machine doesn't do any good.
> I don't = even know=20 if there is a way to reset it completely.
> Since the Electrix = site and=20 forum are closed, you're my only hope.
> Thanks for your = help,
>=20 Cheers,
> JPR
> http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
>
>=20 ________________________________
> Windows Live=99: Keep your = life in=20 sync. Check it out.

------=_NextPart_000_009D_01CA0243.48F57270-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 15:08:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A76F3BE77; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <003701ca0202$f5bb6690$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <00a101c9ffee$f5541f00$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A54DA8A.2070401@netcologne.de> <003701ca0202$f5bb6690$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: two little guitar loops Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:08:41 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <5tjymD.A.lDH.-rKWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Enjoyed 'em both fer breakfast. Yum. On Jul 11, 2009, at 1:38 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > for those who haven't listened to it on Facebook:=A0 > here are two quite different guitar loops that I did on=A0Friday. > =A0 > afternoon: a "plain vanilla" Frippertronics style loop with the usual =20= > RF inspired solo > http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/=20 > MichaelPeters20090709.mp3 > =A0 > evening: a more atonal guitar improvisation with Stefan Tiedje doing =20= > live treatments & loops using his "Ondes Memorielles" Max/MSP system > http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/=20 > HitchhikersDiary20090709.mp3=A0 > =A0 > enjoy! > =A0 > -Michael > =A0 > =A0 > =A0= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 16:37:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5F5C3BE73; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:37:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Warren Sirota'" , References: <101191640907110554x145e2938je7d58a118a0426b4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: What to do as an unknown artist (by Trent Reznor) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:37:54 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA020B.471BA3D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <101191640907110554x145e2938je7d58a118a0426b4@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: AcoCPVuoBMCmlDZfTgCM+WtSuGMwHQACHhdA Resent-Message-ID: <8PL0eB.A.T4B.k_LWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:37:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA020B.471BA3D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Basking in the warm fuzzy glow of anonymity? _____ From: Warren Sirota [mailto:wsirota@wsdesigns.com] Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 5:54 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What to do as an unknown artist (by Trent Reznor) you guys are unknowns? crap, what am i doing here? :-) On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Per Boysen wrote: I totally subscribe to that, Matt! Your wise-as-trent analysis makes me feel proud to be part of "us unknowns". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > The tough part for > us unknowns is that if we're doing something that we already know > people want to listen to, there's a good chance we're not being very > unique. We have to come up with something that's completely our own > and hope people like it. In other words, luck. -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA020B.471BA3D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Basking in the warm fuzzy glow of = anonymity?

 

From: = Warren Sirota [mailto:wsirota@wsdesigns.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 11, = 2009 5:54 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: What to do = as an unknown artist (by Trent Reznor)

 

you guys are = unknowns? crap, what am i doing here? :-)

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Per = Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> = wrote:

I totally subscribe to that, Matt! Your wise-as-trent analysis = makes
me feel proud to be part of "us unknowns".

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com




On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Matt Davignon<mattdavignon@gmail.com> = wrote:
> The tough part for
> us unknowns is that if we're doing something that we already = know
> people want to listen to, there's a good chance we're not being = very
> unique. We have to come up with something that's completely our = own
> and hope people like it. In other words, = luck.




--
Warren
http://www.ube= too.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
http://www.warrensirota.com=

------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CA020B.471BA3D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 18:11:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D3933BE70; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:11:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:11:25 -0700 From: Andrew Schoen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <144144571086915201448850180192995518219-Webmail@me.com> In-reply-to: <2871c3a90907110654n5576a975oe6bc7a11d5e48329@mail.gmail.com> References: <1DE2A8A651A545ED8CCB94BAE528B2A8@portable2jpr> <541F1AD705DF449DAAB509806FEEECC3@portable2jpr> <64B1E03130BE40BA925006108B02A92D@portable2jpr> <2871c3a90907110654n5576a975oe6bc7a11d5e48329@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: 24.22.177.136, 208.50.77.157 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:11:27 +0000 (UTC) Hello everyone! I also have a Repeater that has been acting a little off. Thanks for the d= irections regarding the 2.04 system upgrade. I feel I need to reinstall th= is myself, but can't seem to find the files to download. Can someone help = me out and send me the link. Much appreciated. Also, Jean Philippe your music is fantastic. Very nice!= =20 Andy You Can Find My Music here: www.untitledvisons.com http://www.reverbnation.com/untitledvisions It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe! =20 On Saturday, July 11, 2009, at 06:54AM, "Sylvain Poitras" wrote: >Salut JP, >voici les directives pour l'installation: > >Instructions for system 2.04 >1- first copy RBS_P1-4.rbf and Sys2-10b04.raf onto the flash card >2- unplug power supply to repeater >3- insert flash card >4- power up repeater >5- use tempo knob to select RBS_P16 - press record to install >7- see a message to "cycle power" >8- unplug power supply to repeater >9- power up repeater >10- use tempo knob to select Sys2-10 >11 -press record to install Sys2-10 >12- repeater boots up with new sys2! > >Sylvain > > >On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Jean Philippe wrote: >> Hi, me again. >> If someone could give me detailed instructions about reinstalling the >> repeater software, that would be very kind because I lost them. The soft= ware >> itself contains several files and I remember that they had to be install= ed >> in a specific order, but no idea which. >> Thanks for your help. >> Cheers, >> JPR >> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jean Philippe >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:41 AM >> Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! >> Dear Fro, >> I'm very glad to hear that you liked my music. It's very encouraging bec= ause >> it's the kind of music that doesn't sell these days=A0since=A0it's a lit= tle too >> far from what people call electronic music. >> Thanks again. >> Back to the subject, do you think there is a replacement unit for the >> repeater if I cannot get it to work properly. I thought of the RC 50 but= it >> doesn't look as straightforward as the repeater was. Yet it's the only >> multitrack hardware loop machine I know of. >> Of course, I would love to go Ableton but it's yet impossible for visual= ly >> impaired users. >> Cheers, >> JPR >> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: FRO DIDDLY >> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:10 AM >> Subject: RE: What happened to my repeater ? ! >> i owned 4 of those darn things once upon a time and for the life of me i >> cant remember if you can reset to factory defaults- >> just read through the booklet, i dont think its possible- >> ild say switch out all cables involved and if that doesnt work, re-insta= ll >> the operating system >> >> probably didnt help ya at all, but the important thing is that you just >> earned a fan for life- >> im a first time listener, and am completely captivated by the intricacy = of >> your music >> >> salut! >> >> fro >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: jp.rykiel@orange.fr >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: What happened to my repeater ? ! >> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:41:11 +0200 >> >> Hi there, >> I hadn't used my repeater for a bit, and it's acting weird now. >> When=A0overdubbing , what I just played comes out with a small but very >> noticeable delay against what was previously on the track, I would say a= bout >> 30 ms. I have software 2.1, and unpowering the machine doesn't do any go= od. >> I don't even know if there is a way to reset it completely. >> Since the Electrix site and forum are closed, you're my only hope. >> Thanks for your help, >> Cheers, >> JPR >> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel >> >> ________________________________ >> Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 18:24:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6848F3BE78; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:24:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:references; bh=BMJg4Wv3jNBAk7Zxig+5/D/hzOGhbcDW1StrpWBqyws=; b=rwI8CYpaFExWukUNqdlDZD09E31C9MuPs23v436azkWRnDcMQvOQlJBI1rnfFSG7iM EWGRdHSWGiUv3dSQLQw9yC5kV5l2eUBkvDS+LX9P43aZ/kr00c5xz2iwqe2O0XZnz3Bv h12+9TrCdk68FMSRHyhDQUI9u50Pmgx9rQods= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; b=Dj84JcPY18r02VrxqGC08hmD+G088iPPgj8FQTb64wO7w4LrYJNbiZPuWXOMlnGB/1 hjGNneiQLLXqkVWrrKDC6/As9ZlkHZw2Ntiex1jq2oWWpYLYHQmFpPmktNZPBpt1vhSR bUKumXyZ8GmwiSqa1GwNmRIjB0u3tGDaErooY= Message-Id: <2D4D867A-72BD-490C-8913-962C439C54BF@gmail.com> From: Mark Sottilaro To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A341) Subject: Re: Zero People (was: ambivalent feelings) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:24:30 -0700 References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:24:41 +0000 (UTC) Sent from my iPhone On Jul 10, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Heck, even my ipod has a lot of pop song structured music, but it's on > there for mostly musical reasons. What other reasons are there? > > But let's say that 10% of the music on people's ipods is instrumental. > Or even 5%. That's still a heck of a lot of music being listened to on > a global scale. Even if we take your original assertion that only > musicians listen to instrumental music. That's still a ton of people. That wasn't my original assertation. It was that only a small percent of people enjoy instrumental music and the subset of those people who enjoy improv is even smaller and those who enjoy looped improv is even tinier and my guess is they'er mostly made up of musicians. Maybe the problem is that not enough people are musicians. > > I dunno... to be honest I forget exactly what the argument was about. Is this an arggument? Why wasn't I told? I would have started cursing long ago! Mark > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 22:42:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC3E93BE77; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=r0exE9Dg0KqE/HikLuE3/b7vL+PEOs14rIz7Y/HM6u1lcJonF5z9nOT5Zc8PqaDw; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: From: joe cavaleri To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <144144571086915201448850180192995518219-Webmail@me.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-609474673 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:42:10 -0700 References: <1DE2A8A651A545ED8CCB94BAE528B2A8@portable2jpr> <541F1AD705DF449DAAB509806FEEECC3@portable2jpr> <64B1E03130BE40BA925006108B02A92D@portable2jpr> <2871c3a90907110654n5576a975oe6bc7a11d5e48329@mail.gmail.com> <144144571086915201448850180192995518219-Webmail@me.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-ELNK-Trace: 573b2ac3a2420bc9f258f48946e2642d9ef193a6bfc3dd487a8293e645ecd5f6dcedae42af68561980a966c17e7b0748350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 99.146.21.225 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:42:13 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-609474673 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is this what your looking for? > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > From: Simeon Harris > Date: June 24, 2009 10:51:40 AM PDT > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OS 2.0 Electrix Repeater > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > seems pretty stable to me (although i havn't tested it to > destruction, as it were) and most of the bugs seem to have been fixed > > well worth the upgrade, imo as the extra features are terrific and > no more "bumps" at the loop boundary. rec straight into overdub is > worth it on it's own > > download from me here, if you havnt got it already... > > http://www.box.net/shared/m00og7fn8c > > password = repeater > > cheers > > sim --Apple-Mail-1-609474673 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is this what your = looking for?


Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
June 24, = 2009 10:51:40 AM PDT
Re: OS = 2.0 Electrix Repeater

seems pretty stable to me (although i havn't = tested it to destruction, as it were) and most of the bugs seem to have = been fixed

well worth the upgrade, imo as the extra features are = terrific and no more "bumps" at the loop boundary. rec straight into = overdub is worth it on it's own

download from me here, if you = havnt got it already...

http://www.box.net/shared/m0= 0og7fn8c

password =3D = repeater

cheers

sim


= --Apple-Mail-1-609474673-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 11 23:01:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 054CB3BE78; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:01:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 464 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:01:46 UTC X-ME-UUID: 20090711225401620.975E87000085@mwinf2b23.orange.fr Message-ID: <278DA7BCB79D456088DD261D24EC8628@portable2jpr> From: "Jean Philippe" To: References: <1DE2A8A651A545ED8CCB94BAE528B2A8@portable2jpr> <541F1AD705DF449DAAB509806FEEECC3@portable2jpr> <64B1E03130BE40BA925006108B02A92D@portable2jpr> <2871c3a90907110654n5576a975oe6bc7a11d5e48329@mail.gmail.com> <144144571086915201448850180192995518219-Webmail@me.com> Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:54:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01CA028B.4122F480" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:01:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CA028B.4122F480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andy, does this list except attachments? If it doesn't I can send the files = directly to you. But here is my problem : as I said in my earlier = message, 2.1 comes with three files in 2.4 only comes with two files so = it means that you may have to reinstall 2.1 first but I don't know in = which order these three files must be installed. If someone has kept the = installation instructions for 2.1 it would be of great help. I have both versions in my machine ready to be sent. And thanks for the nice comments on my music, that feels good.=20 Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andrew Schoen=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:11 PM Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! Hello everyone! I also have a Repeater that has been acting a little off. Thanks for = the directions regarding the 2.04 system upgrade. I feel I need to = reinstall this myself, but can't seem to find the files to download. = Can someone help me out and send me the link. Much appreciated. Also, Jean Philippe your music is fantastic. Very = nice! =20 Andy You Can Find My Music here: www.untitledvisons.com http://www.reverbnation.com/untitledvisions It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe! =20 On Saturday, July 11, 2009, at 06:54AM, "Sylvain Poitras" = wrote: >Salut JP, >voici les directives pour l'installation: > >Instructions for system 2.04 >1- first copy RBS_P1-4.rbf and Sys2-10b04.raf onto the flash card >2- unplug power supply to repeater >3- insert flash card >4- power up repeater >5- use tempo knob to select RBS_P16 - press record to install >7- see a message to "cycle power" >8- unplug power supply to repeater >9- power up repeater >10- use tempo knob to select Sys2-10 >11 -press record to install Sys2-10 >12- repeater boots up with new sys2! > >Sylvain > > >On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Jean Philippe = wrote: >> Hi, me again. >> If someone could give me detailed instructions about reinstalling = the >> repeater software, that would be very kind because I lost them. The = software >> itself contains several files and I remember that they had to be = installed >> in a specific order, but no idea which. >> Thanks for your help. >> Cheers, >> JPR >> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jean Philippe >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:41 AM >> Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! >> Dear Fro, >> I'm very glad to hear that you liked my music. It's very = encouraging because >> it's the kind of music that doesn't sell these days since it's a = little too >> far from what people call electronic music. >> Thanks again. >> Back to the subject, do you think there is a replacement unit for = the >> repeater if I cannot get it to work properly. I thought of the RC = 50 but it >> doesn't look as straightforward as the repeater was. Yet it's the = only >> multitrack hardware loop machine I know of. >> Of course, I would love to go Ableton but it's yet impossible for = visually >> impaired users. >> Cheers, >> JPR >> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: FRO DIDDLY >> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:10 AM >> Subject: RE: What happened to my repeater ? ! >> i owned 4 of those darn things once upon a time and for the life of = me i >> cant remember if you can reset to factory defaults- >> just read through the booklet, i dont think its possible- >> ild say switch out all cables involved and if that doesnt work, = re-install >> the operating system >> >> probably didnt help ya at all, but the important thing is that you = just >> earned a fan for life- >> im a first time listener, and am completely captivated by the = intricacy of >> your music >> >> salut! >> >> fro >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: jp.rykiel@orange.fr >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: What happened to my repeater ? ! >> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:41:11 +0200 >> >> Hi there, >> I hadn't used my repeater for a bit, and it's acting weird now. >> When overdubbing , what I just played comes out with a small but = very >> noticeable delay against what was previously on the track, I would = say about >> 30 ms. I have software 2.1, and unpowering the machine doesn't do = any good. >> I don't even know if there is a way to reset it completely. >> Since the Electrix site and forum are closed, you're my only hope. >> Thanks for your help, >> Cheers, >> JPR >> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel >> >> ________________________________ >> Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CA028B.4122F480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Andy,
does this list except = attachments? If=20 it doesn't I can send the files directly to you. But here is my problem = : as I=20 said in my earlier message, 2.1 comes with three files in 2.4 only comes = with=20 two files so it means that you may have to reinstall 2.1 first but I = don't know=20 in which order these three files must be installed. If someone = has=20 kept the installation instructions for 2.1 it would be of great=20 help.
I have both versions in my machine = ready to be=20 sent.
And thanks for the nice = comments on my=20 music, that feels good.
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Andrew=20 Schoen
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Cc: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 = 8:11=20 PM
Subject: Re: What happened to = my repeater=20 ? !


Hello everyone!

I also have a Repeater that = has been=20 acting a little off.  Thanks for the directions regarding the = 2.04 system=20 upgrade.  I feel I need to reinstall this myself, but can't seem = to find=20 the files to download.  Can someone help me out and send me the=20 link.

Much appreciated.  Also, Jean Philippe your music is = fantastic.  Very nice! 

Andy

You Can Find My = Music=20 here:
www.untitledvisons.com
http://www.reverbnat= ion.com/untitledvisions

It's=20 a Rock-N-Roll Universe!

 
On Saturday, July 11, 2009, = at=20 06:54AM, "Sylvain Poitras" <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com= >=20 wrote:
>Salut JP,
>voici les directives pour=20 l'installation:
>
>Instructions for system 2.04
>1- = first=20 copy RBS_P1-4.rbf  and  Sys2-10b04.raf onto the flash=20 card
>2-  unplug power supply to repeater
>3-  = insert=20 flash card
>4-  power up repeater
>5-  use tempo = knob to=20 select RBS_P16 -  press record to install
>7-  see a = message=20 to "cycle power"
>8-  unplug power supply to=20 repeater
>9-  power up repeater
>10- use tempo knob = to select=20 Sys2-10
>11 -press record to install Sys2-10
>12- repeater = boots=20 up with new sys2!
>
>Sylvain
>
>
>On = Sat, Jul=20 11, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Jean Philippe<jp.rykiel@orange.fr>=20 wrote:
>> Hi, me again.
>> If someone could give me = detailed=20 instructions about reinstalling the
>> repeater software, = that would=20 be very kind because I lost them. The software
>> itself = contains=20 several files and I remember that they had to be installed
>> = in a=20 specific order, but no idea which.
>> Thanks for your=20 help.
>> Cheers,
>> JPR
>> http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
>>
>>=20 ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jean = Philippe
>> To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
>>=20 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: What = happened=20 to my repeater ? !
>> Dear Fro,
>> I'm very glad to = hear=20 that you liked my music. It's very encouraging because
>> = it's the=20 kind of music that doesn't sell these days since it's a little = too
>>=20 far from what people call electronic music.
>> Thanks=20 again.
>> Back to the subject, do you think there is a = replacement=20 unit for the
>> repeater if I cannot get it to work properly. = I=20 thought of the RC 50 but it
>> doesn't look as = straightforward as the=20 repeater was. Yet it's the only
>> multitrack hardware loop = machine I=20 know of.
>> Of course, I would love to go Ableton but it's = yet=20 impossible for visually
>> impaired users.
>>=20 Cheers,
>> JPR
>> http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
>>
>>=20 ----- Original Message -----
>> From: FRO DIDDLY
>> = To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com
>>=20 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:10 AM
>> Subject: RE: What = happened=20 to my repeater ? !
>> i owned 4 of those darn things once = upon a time=20 and for the life of me i
>> cant remember if you can reset to = factory=20 defaults-
>> just read through the booklet, i dont think its=20 possible-
>> ild say switch out all cables involved and if = that=20 doesnt work, re-install
>> the operating=20 system
>>
>> probably didnt help ya at all, but the=20 important thing is that you just
>> earned a fan for=20 life-
>> im a first time listener, and am completely = captivated by=20 the intricacy of
>> your music
>>
>>=20 salut!
>>
>>=20 = fro
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>&g= t;
>>=20 ________________________________
>> From: jp.rykiel@orange.fr
>> = To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
>>=20 Subject: What happened to my repeater ? !
>> Date: Sat, 11 = Jul 2009=20 10:41:11 +0200
>>
>> Hi there,
>> I hadn't = used my=20 repeater for a bit, and it's acting weird now.
>> When = overdubbing ,=20 what I just played comes out with a small but very
>> = noticeable=20 delay against what was previously on the track, I would say = about
>>=20 30 ms. I have software 2.1, and unpowering the machine doesn't do any=20 good.
>> I don't even know if there is a way to reset it=20 completely.
>> Since the Electrix site and forum are closed, = you're=20 my only hope.
>> Thanks for your help,
>>=20 Cheers,
>> JPR
>> http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
>>
>>=20 ________________________________
>> Windows Live=99: Keep = your life in=20 sync. Check it = out.
>
>
>

------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CA028B.4122F480-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 00:35:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D87B43BE75; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 649 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:35:23 UTC Message-ID: <4E9190C5362A4581AF25ADA8EF7D1A01@DTT60> From: "Dave Trenkel" To: References: <1DE2A8A651A545ED8CCB94BAE528B2A8@portable2jpr> <541F1AD705DF449DAAB509806FEEECC3@portable2jpr> Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:24:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01D0_01CA024C.724A1C30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-ID: n6C0OSbA027548 X-mailscanner1-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.844, required 6, AWL -0.64, BAYES_00 -2.60, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, PLING_QUERY 1.39) X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-From: improv@peak.org X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: <305ERC.A.f2.L_SWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:35:23 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01D0_01CA024C.724A1C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jean Phillipe, I hough your name sounded familiar, then made the connection from your mysp= ace page: You played on Salif Keita's Soro, which is among my favorite albu= ms! Great to have you here on Loopers Delight! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jean Philippe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 2:41 AM Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! Dear Fro, I'm very glad to hear that you liked my music. It's very encouraging beca= use it's the kind of music that doesn't sell these days since it's a little= too far from what people call electronic music. Thanks again. Back to the subject, do you think there is a replacement unit for the rep= eater if I cannot get it to work properly. I thought of the RC 50 but it do= esn't look as straightforward as the repeater was. Yet it's the only multit= rack hardware loop machine I know of. Of course, I would love to go Ableton but it's yet impossible for visuall= y impaired users. Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: FRO DIDDLY=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: RE: What happened to my repeater ? ! i owned 4 of those darn things once upon a time and for the life of me = i cant remember if you can reset to factory defaults- just read through the booklet, i dont think its possible- ild say switch out all cables involved and if that doesnt work, re-inst= all the operating system probably didnt help ya at all, but the important thing is that you just= earned a fan for life- im a first time listener, and am completely captivated by the intricacy= of your music salut! fro ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jp.rykiel@orange.fr To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: What happened to my repeater ? ! Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:41:11 +0200 Hi there, I hadn't used my repeater for a bit, and it's acting weird now.=20 When overdubbing , what I just played comes out with a small but very n= oticeable delay against what was previously on the track, I would say about= 30 ms. I have software 2.1, and unpowering the machine doesn't do any good= . I don't even know if there is a way to reset it completely. Since the Electrix site and forum are closed, you're my only hope. Thanks for your help, Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_01D0_01CA024C.724A1C30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jean Phillipe,
 
I hough your name sounded familiar, then made the= =20 connection from your myspace page: You played on Salif Keita's Soro, which = is=20 among my favorite albums! Great to have you here on Loopers=20 Delight!
----- Original Message -----
Fro= m:=20 Jean= =20 Philippe
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 2:41= =20 AM
Subject: Re: What happened to my r= epeater=20 ? !

Dear Fro,
I'm very glad to hear that you liked my music. It= 's very=20 encouraging because it's the kind of music that doesn't sell these=20 days since it's a little too far from what people call electron= ic=20 music.
Thanks again.
Back to the subject, do you think there is a= =20 replacement unit for the repeater if I cannot get it to work properly. I= =20 thought of the RC 50 but it doesn't look as straightforward as the repeat= er=20 was. Yet it's the only multitrack hardware loop machine I know of.
Of= =20 course, I would love to go Ableton but it's yet impossible for visually= =20 impaired users.
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
F= rom:=20 FRO=20 DIDDLY
To: loopers-delight@loo= pers-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11= :10=20 AM
Subject: RE: What happened to my= =20 repeater ? !

i ow= ned 4 of=20 those darn things once upon a time and for the life of me i cant rememb= er if=20 you can reset to factory defaults-
just read through the booklet, i = dont=20 think its possible-
ild say switch out all cables involved and if th= at=20 doesnt work, re-install the operating system

probably didnt help= ya=20 at all, but the important thing is that you just earned a fan for=20 life-
im a first time listener, and am completely captivated by the= =20 intricacy of your music

salut!

fro





From: jp.rykiel@orange.fr
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: What happened to my rep= eater=20 ? !
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:41:11 +0200

Hi there,
I hadn't used my repeater= for a=20 bit, and it's acting weird now.
When overdubbing , what I just pl= ayed=20 comes out with a small but very noticeable delay against what was previ= ously=20 on the track, I would say about 30 ms. I have software 2.1, and unpower= ing=20 the machine doesn't do any good. I don't even know if there is a way to= =20 reset it completely.
Since the Electrix site and forum are closed, y= ou're=20 my only hope.
Thanks for your help,
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanp= hilipperykiel

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 01:11:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 814493BE7C; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:11:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 485 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:11:57 UTC Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: What to do as an unknown artist (by Trent Reznor) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:11:53 -0700 References: <001c01ca0134$c69d86a0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Server-Quench: fdd9588d-6e80-11de-a90b-001f29070be2 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwRffTALAxpo UEhAUlJQHgRpCxkH SBwaTBhxdxtAcWBx ZkJ9XHVZWVt6Oxh7 MU8mVhNFZWZpbmIZ HkFfcwAaJlcedxpN YgRiUiYFYXgGZy41 WgZiZzp0ZW0GJn4E Gl5VJ19IV3wGTHYD RxkeVSkoVUECDywo ZxUgYkMaH0AWLUN6 OEE9WEkEe18YG0Vi BUxLHGdjKksHQDBq ZXZl X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.kestrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1562/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:11:57 +0000 (UTC) God that stream of consciousness was totally unreadable because of spelling... i meant to say... i think if your music is "niche" (which much of ours is here) then mainstream success will never be an option and you should focus on selling to your audience. there is a good living to be made selling your music to a discerning audience. you won't become filthy rich, but you will make a living. the only way that can work, however, is if you DO NOT sign with a label On Jul 11, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > i think if your music is "niche" (which must of ours is here) then > mainstream success will never be an option and you should focus on > selling to your audience. a good living to be made selling your > music a discerning audience. you won't become filthy rich, but you > will make a living. > the only way that can work, however, is if you DO NOT sign with a > label because then there are less mouths too fe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 01:16:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E5483BE77; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:16:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ILPvTinDLT2oAnnKBLTA4jy2AlDRk6kiC8qUkuVmDG0=; b=PJxBDvArjsMJNP6VPBb4aDH2cDDd41p0kPhfAH3sPE316w6WtHQICjD3uF/kPK0ydK EvGJNpxGx6qSKWhvtwhk+xHrZI6thcT8v3cWdd/Iu457j4EMfus5KpZrFz2wJmhq0Dem Cmss9rlHdV/BodeEjB4W86UD2esz5KTWueG+A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=lqHR05iAR8uku9gHi/3TzdVit8WrSy673JE+HVTI+rvO7m7aeX2yEk94TxNKgPUHz1 vtA2QUMoa98kkhgrPJmxhl42RRUUorebw4oRNCdjHziTaw5CtUgLjkOEc7KtDWUyuFn5 V875ubBkzasQJ/PuodpgVHkqLYI7Ay8UZD1rM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:16:28 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907111816x3426c880sd3c1d0a0562976af@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Posted a new recording I'm happy with From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:16:29 +0000 (UTC) "Midsummer Flute Trance Ritual" must be the most cheesy song title I penned so far for improvised instrumental music. Here's a link for listening: http://bit.ly/dQcUh It's a usual live-looping impro with Mobius hosted in Bidule. This improvisation makes heavy use of two Expert-Sleepers plug-ins, the Crossfade Loop Synth and Oomingmak. I used Bidules step sequencer to drive Crossfade L-S as a real-time sampler and had a foot button to cut in any note from what I was playing on the flute into the Crossfade L-S. As a flute note is cut in it starts bouncing around according to the looping sequence patter and by choosing what note to cut in you decide what "chord" to imply and by what timbre. The rest is looping and speed shifting in Mobius. The Oomingmak simply makes the acoustic flute tone become a synth tone (it's basically an envelope follower with fitlers and stuff). The wishy-washy "Eventide sounding" stuff is the SoundToys plug-ins. Eh... this looping rig is based on three levels: Catching short loops in the effects pre looper, looping in Mobius and then the Step-o-Phonic LooperFormer trick with the Crossfade Loop Synth Effect that runs in parallel of both the direct in line and the Looper. . Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 01:17:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BD183BE73; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: What to do as an unknown artist (by Trent Reznor) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:03:48 -0700 References: <001c01ca0134$c69d86a0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Server-Quench: dca7d21f-6e7f-11de-a90b-001f29070be2 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwRffTALAxpo UEhAUlJQHgVrCxkB SBwaTBhxdxtAcWBx ZkJ9XHVZWVt6Oxh7 MU9XSB9/ZWZoamAb HkZQdQUaJFAbeUtH awZiUiYKN3gGZy41 WgZiZzp0ZW0GJn4E Gl5VJ19IV3wGTHYD RxkeVSkoVUECDywo ZxUgYkMaH0AWLUN6 OEE9WEkEe18YG0Vi BUxLHGdjKksHQDBq ZXZl X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.kestrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1562/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:17:29 +0000 (UTC) matt, i agree with everything you said. i question the "give everything away" strategy for an artist who is not pop/rock. i think the free strategy can work if your goal is to become a household name: i.e. a mainstream success. it seems as though the point of free is to get your music into everyone's hands. if it won't do you any good to have your music in everyone's hands (i.e. because you play instrumental cello music) its not worth anything. my twitter experience is a good example of this. i have 700,000 followers, just because i'm on the suggested list. it means 700,000 people can potentially hear any music i send them...but i know that a very small percentage of them will be the "discerning listener" that will like my music. does it do me any good to have 700,000 followers? maybe, in terms of prestige. because of my number of followers, even though i'm always upfront about how i got those numbers, journalists now write stories about me and some people think i'm bigger than i really am. maybe someone i'm trying to reach will read my email, or pick up at my press kit out of their pile, who knows. but really, i don't think it helps that much. i'd rather have 7,000 real fans than 700,000 random listeners i'll tell you one thing that has happened since i got "twamous". people are no longer writing with small-time licensing offers that i used to do about one a week....the $200 for a ballet, $500 for a film fest license, etc....a couple people have told me, after they made their films, that they wanted to use my music but assumed i would be too expensive.... so maybe i'd rather be more obscure. ;-) i think if your music is "niche" (which must of ours is here) then mainstream success will never be an option and you should focus on selling to your audience. a good living to be made selling your music a discerning audience. you won't become filthy rich, but you will make a living. the only way that can work, however, is if you DO NOT sign with a label because then there are less mouths too feed. i keep meaning to write all this up...someday... twitterly, zoe On Jul 10, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Basically I agree with him when it comes to building web presence, > doing what you can to put music in front of as many people as > possible, and yes, acknowledging that the days of making a long-term > living based on cd sales are probably over (unless you sign with a > major label AND are wildly successful). > > I feel differently about the "give it away" strategy. Having a decent > amount of your music freely and widely available (such as online) > means you won't have "unavailability" as a roadblock to your success. > That's different than saying it will bring you success: > > A) There are so many musicians in the world climbing over each other > for fame, that giving away your music doesn't mean that potential > "fans" will find it. For example, when I log into emusic, *looking for > music*, there are thousands of cds from which I can hear free samples, > but I steer towards ones that look like they'd be something I'd like. > In other words, the suggestion that 'giving away your music for free > is the path to more listeners' doesn't account for taste, or the > searching habits of the listening audience. > > B) Handing your cd to people who haven't expressed an interest in your > music won't win you many more listeners, unless your music is > universally mind-blowingly awesome for everybody. I receive a lot CDs > from artists in this way, and many of them are still in the > shrinkwrap. There's an odd phenomenon in the SF bay area where > aspiring rappers will try to give their demo cds to random passersby > at the subway stations. Desperation doesn't generate interest in an > artist. To me there's a big difference between an artist who has a > stack of cds to give away (good) and an artist who tries to make sure > everyone leaves with a copy (not as good). > > C) One key to success is "Be a talented artist who uniquely does > things that people want to listen to." That's a far way away from me > saying, "Make pop music". Every genre of music, no matter how > non-mainstream, has figures who've gained that coveted notoriety. In > each case, there's some sort of talent involved (good decision-making, > performing skill, a sensitive ear, songwriting, etc), it's something > that people want to listen to, and there's a unique quality that keep > bringing listeners back to that particular artist. The tough part for > us unknowns is that if we're doing something that we already know > people want to listen to, there's a good chance we're not being very > unique. We have to come up with something that's completely our own > and hope people like it. In other words, luck. > > D) Another key to success is, "Get important people to talk about your > music." There has to be folks who are not you, not your > friend/wife/relative, and not coerced by you, who think that your > music is so good that they can't stop talking about it. These folks > needs to be in a position where people are paying attention, such as a > radio dj, well-read music blogger, etc. Otherwise, the only people who > will find out about your awesome music will be the people you directly > tell. > > Of course, as a non-successful artist, I have about as much business > discussing this as Trent Reznor, except from the other end of the > spectrum. > > Matt Davignon > Tour! www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt > > > > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Mark > Sottilaro wrote: >> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106347439 >> >> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Michael Peters wrote: >>> very good !! >>> >>>> Mr. Reznor seems like an odd source of advice for "unknown" >>>> musicians, but >>> I think most of what he says is pretty sound: >>>> >>> http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/trent-manifesto-my-thoughts-what-do-n >>> ewunknown-artist/ >>> >>> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 01:25:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D952B3BE79; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907111816x3426c880sd3c1d0a0562976af@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907111816x3426c880sd3c1d0a0562976af@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <42e6f46d57fb33c725c26621cbcce128@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Posted a new recording I'm happy with Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:24:56 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Listening now Per and I'm liking what I'm hearing too. On Jul 11, 2009, at 6:16 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > "Midsummer Flute Trance Ritual" must be the most cheesy song title I > penned so far for improvised instrumental music. Here's a link for > listening: http://bit.ly/dQcUh > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > From alex@sims2marktplatz.net Sun Jul 12 02:30:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from sims2marktplatz.net (sims2marktplatz.net [78.46.33.172]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1E13BE6F for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 02:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by sims2marktplatz.net (Postfix, from userid 1015) id 61A1ABBC980; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:36:17 +0200 (CEST) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received a photo from facebook.com! From: facebook.com Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090711230513.61A1ABBC980@sims2marktplatz.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:36:17 +0200 (CEST)
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 07:07:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52C8A3BE71; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 07:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UKr8L+1BdhvPKik884h+bYwooTLoXztHVxDMDhEY+KU=; b=VaAKrKKtrRv6ABY7HEhq+J5W3ffSkHtxBMyPxOL7Jq0D62VmYl0enAWjlH38MvkOSb Zy9FtHl99puUFbWTJmlPb9JKjK89s4Nau2iSY3vJhdb83ARGztXsyyMnhW/7jo/viK2z ZjCpU6QXeUNTG0Y3fVnTWEDNBElxgAif0TlJM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NRT05iobWIU3rT0U2P7qmh63htGF22jQHCA4tRG3EoMo/ibumfzS3zqKCXee/fSbBq AP1FSCHu4VxO3vOJmzzoBG0SBNd5KG4/XpO5iqUhGj0+LwJs6c8wiRWLXYwwwbaf0hB2 azdNQzU/SK7uJrgNci/Obr72J6MxBb6iDd1wM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:07:39 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907120007od18ff49xdcfd067891e11a1c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Posted a new recording I'm happy with From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4S39YD.A.rpF.8uYWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 07:07:40 +0000 (UTC) > http://bit.ly/dQcUh I remember how you told me that you sometimes missed your FireworX: right around 1:49, there's a very FireworX Preset 001-like sound - no wonder you're happy with it ;) Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 09:32:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0868A3BE75; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=685gcr7w0OCiq/1cLrCoasp8+2uBqtCNAcxklp1TYrM=; b=hw4yYtvuDk6dmQz/I+n3EJ8ss+iWoVvU1ej0+xMkjW26SDO65PUoP8MA/UHPmQVel4 zPwzVDOLe5ay+Pz43ExGCAKQCl89B9TD8npfnHxC/IP4gLriCn/ZS5XNVx9mp8lRzthi 3tbiG/fhHBftk70JErKAoQkGJ5PwHwcyIb5ys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KPs/MRb6vA51KakgYRgqY0eJ1CM5LCjDm25fgu3SdX8nYhJ6lHfkJT9Nh69ss6FEvg JgEC79KyLBWbBipFCTBAGIxgTjQWbWwpT8CWKZf8XUS7n7o1Nk1fAqn8CXLMSg2lEeP+ kkw3cg0Zz7lFElna7PSnt8OP1gmt9tMWV+uRs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907120007od18ff49xdcfd067891e11a1c@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907120007od18ff49xdcfd067891e11a1c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:32:51 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907120232y623042b1n72f2655428d03bc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Posted a new recording I'm happy with From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:32:51 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >> http://bit.ly/dQcUh > > I remember how you told me that you sometimes missed your FireworX: > right around 1:49, there's a very FireworX Preset 001-like sound - no > wonder you're happy with it ;) Well, I never listened much to the presets on the FireworX but before selling it I analyzed the signal routing to learn how to set up sounds in a laptop. I checked 1;49 and here's what it is (fore any one that also likes this sort of sound and want to create it in-the-box): Setting up an expression pedal to manipulate the pre looper effects at the toe-up position while still using the pedal as a plain volume pedal (to prevent PA sound leaking into overdubbing loops). In this case the input signal is split into three parallel routes. One flows directly to the free Apple AU Hipass filter and Multiband Compressor that are the last plugins. The second goes through a synced SoundToys Crystallizer (like the Eventide HD-3000) set to all wet signal. Crystallizer is set to slightly duck the harmonizer effect when audio is inputted (an input envelop follow parameter built into the plug-in) so the huge sound won't get in the way of your playing. Then it goes into a SoundToys EchoBoy (analog tape delay sim) set to full feedback at the toe-up expression pedal position, but since the fidelity degenerates in full tape loop sim feedback the "sound cloud" you freeze in here slowly changes timbre over time. Next stop on this line is the SoundToys Tremolator (set to a phaser style tremolo on a certain triad-like beat). The expression pedal continuously changes the Tremolator from no effect at toe-down (also full mic input) to only effect/wet at toe-up (mic input closed). Finally the Tremolator output goes into the last AU Hipass filter and Multiband Compressor. The third line goes through a synced OhmForce Ohmboyz (set up similar to the preset with a delay in triplet feel going through an LFO driven sync cutoff filter that also pans around). Then it merges with the second line going into the Tremolator/Hipass/MBcompressor. While signal line two (Crystallizer) gets "feedback looped" in EchoBoy, signal line three gets "feedback looped" in Ohmboyz. EchoBoy and Ohmboyz are looping at different lenghts, so you get a little on-the-fly poly rhythm while doing the toe-up on the expression pedal. All three signal paths meet in the final MB compressor which is protected with a Hipass filter on the input. In this patch I'm tapping out signal to feed Mobius looper (set to "all wet", "do not monitor input") between the final Hipass and MB compressor. So both the live playing and the loops merge in the final MB compressor to balance in the digital headroom ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 10:12:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78E6E3BE7C; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:12:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090712101218690.A87BF20000AB@mwinf1911.orange.fr Message-ID: <2DAB46F1790743AD81661C5142AC4F54@portable2jpr> From: "Jean Philippe" To: References: <1DE2A8A651A545ED8CCB94BAE528B2A8@portable2jpr> <541F1AD705DF449DAAB509806FEEECC3@portable2jpr> <4E9190C5362A4581AF25ADA8EF7D1A01@DTT60> Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:12:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA02EA.02CAD310" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <5-ZyZB.A.1KD.EcbWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:12:20 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA02EA.02CAD310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you so much Dave. JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dave Trenkel=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 2:24 AM Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! Jean Phillipe, I hough your name sounded familiar, then made the connection from your = myspace page: You played on Salif Keita's Soro, which is among my = favorite albums! Great to have you here on Loopers Delight! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jean Philippe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 2:41 AM Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! Dear Fro, I'm very glad to hear that you liked my music. It's very encouraging = because it's the kind of music that doesn't sell these days since it's a = little too far from what people call electronic music. Thanks again. Back to the subject, do you think there is a replacement unit for = the repeater if I cannot get it to work properly. I thought of the RC 50 = but it doesn't look as straightforward as the repeater was. Yet it's the = only multitrack hardware loop machine I know of. Of course, I would love to go Ableton but it's yet impossible for = visually impaired users. Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: FRO DIDDLY=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: RE: What happened to my repeater ? ! i owned 4 of those darn things once upon a time and for the life = of me i cant remember if you can reset to factory defaults- just read through the booklet, i dont think its possible- ild say switch out all cables involved and if that doesnt work, = re-install the operating system probably didnt help ya at all, but the important thing is that you = just earned a fan for life- im a first time listener, and am completely captivated by the = intricacy of your music salut! fro -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - From: jp.rykiel@orange.fr To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: What happened to my repeater ? ! Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:41:11 +0200 Hi there, I hadn't used my repeater for a bit, and it's acting weird now.=20 When overdubbing , what I just played comes out with a small but = very noticeable delay against what was previously on the track, I would = say about 30 ms. I have software 2.1, and unpowering the machine doesn't = do any good. I don't even know if there is a way to reset it completely. Since the Electrix site and forum are closed, you're my only hope. Thanks for your help, Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA02EA.02CAD310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you so much Dave.
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dave = Trenkel
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 = 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: What happened to = my repeater=20 ? !

Jean Phillipe,
 
I hough your name sounded familiar, then made = the=20 connection from your myspace page: You played on Salif Keita's Soro, = which is=20 among my favorite albums! Great to have you here on Loopers=20 Delight!
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jean=20 Philippe
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 = 2:41=20 AM
Subject: Re: What happened to = my=20 repeater ? !

Dear Fro,
I'm very glad to hear that you liked my = music. It's=20 very encouraging because it's the kind of music that doesn't sell = these=20 days since it's a little too far from what people call = electronic=20 music.
Thanks again.
Back to the subject, do you think there = is a=20 replacement unit for the repeater if I cannot get it to work = properly. I=20 thought of the RC 50 but it doesn't look as straightforward as the = repeater=20 was. Yet it's the only multitrack hardware loop machine I know = of.
Of=20 course, I would love to go Ableton but it's yet impossible for = visually=20 impaired users.
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 FRO=20 DIDDLY
To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, July 11, = 2009 11:10=20 AM
Subject: RE: What happened = to my=20 repeater ? !

i owned 4=20 of those darn things once upon a time and for the life of me i = cant=20 remember if you can reset to factory defaults-
just read = through the=20 booklet, i dont think its possible-
ild say switch out all = cables=20 involved and if that doesnt work, re-install the operating=20 system

probably didnt help ya at all, but the important = thing is=20 that you just earned a fan for life-
im a first time listener, = and am=20 completely captivated by the intricacy of your=20 music

salut!

fro






From: jp.rykiel@orange.fr
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: What happened to = my=20 repeater ? !
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:41:11 +0200

Hi there,
I hadn't used my = repeater for a=20 bit, and it's acting weird now.
When overdubbing , what I = just played=20 comes out with a small but very noticeable delay against what was=20 previously on the track, I would say about 30 ms. I have software = 2.1, and=20 unpowering the machine doesn't do any good. I don't even know if = there is=20 a way to reset it completely.
Since the Electrix site and forum = are=20 closed, you're my only hope.
Thanks for your=20 help,
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel

Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01CA02EA.02CAD310-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 10:15:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2E6F3BE7F; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090712101545646.9DDE020000A1@mwinf1911.orange.fr Message-ID: From: "Jean Philippe" To: Subject: RC50 Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:15:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA02EA.7E27C9A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:15:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA02EA.7E27C9A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there, I was eventually thinking of replacing my repeater with the Roland RC = 50. I guess this piece of gear has been discussed on the list quite a = few times, but looking through the archives is a bit of a pain. Can = someone tell me how good or bad this thing is versus the repeater? Thanks for your help. Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA02EA.7E27C9A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi there,
I was eventually thinking = of replacing=20 my repeater with the Roland RC 50. I guess this piece of gear has been = discussed=20 on the list quite a few times, but looking through the archives is a bit = of a=20 pain. Can someone tell me how good or bad this thing is versus the=20 repeater?
Thanks for your = help.
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA02EA.7E27C9A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 10:21:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A918C3BE86; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:21:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090712102129248.3C96520000B9@mwinf1911.orange.fr Message-ID: From: "Jean Philippe" To: Subject: ableton live Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:21:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA02EB.4AF65C30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:21:30 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA02EB.4AF65C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there, I don't know if I told you but I'm blind. this prevents me from using a = computer onstage because I would need to hear my screen reader speak = while I'm performing. What a drag! But I was told that Live could be used with a MIDI controller without = having to use the mouse and look at the screen at all. How true do you = think this is? Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA02EB.4AF65C30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi there,
I don't know if I told you = but I'm=20 blind. this prevents me from using a computer onstage because I would = need to=20 hear my screen reader speak while I'm performing. What a = drag!
But I was told that Live could be used = with a MIDI=20 controller without having to use the mouse and look at the screen at = all. How=20 true do you think this is?
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA02EB.4AF65C30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 10:48:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 862803BE85; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:48:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Fb8B/W5lcHrLbDldcb2T3dntb+4wE8zA0RT1NH1ml00=; b=YGUkVf4qu2AwmM68AtCcz+FLSKRIBfFJt62a3gSBsUohxW1c2apUwwYSuORJbIFuXI Esw8e/d46EPf903WuB5kdDHKWBmhzh547BaFkLNHDmtPcMCtlohFbZhof+cP6YA+VGcM lZqMrFOtwybRANoK/R0XrcMK9N0kcHxdxw/AY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=I6IwAZpInwNbesiLW0e1VrNQj5vbcP5+1dspMSVV8QXbuJS/FRrfYrw+Od0kJD8Jgb jW487LahWksYHutvMXOVtbEcJcxQ4siM/4gJu0eecyAhZ3mGF0NbHwYurTTR/AUhAbIA X4F9M0kvBm540zKsYy2Brw16Egmj8RuZ/CtAc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:48:32 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907120348r1849168ep8d2c50ec700868ad@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ableton live From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1VuhZD.A.XTE.B-bWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:48:33 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Jean Philippe wrote: > I don't know if I told you but I'm blind. this prevents me from using a > computer onstage because I would need to hear my screen reader speak while > I'm performing. What a drag! > But I was told that Live could be used with a MIDI controller without having > to use the mouse and look at the screen at all. How true do you think this > is? I think it depends on what exactly you mean by "can be used". To perform on stage I think a lot of music applications, not only Ableton Live, can be set up to answer back to a couple of physical hardware controllers. You simply define the functions you need and assign them to whatever hardware is available to you. One option to check out is the new APC40 that Akai built especially for Ableton Live. Here is a link to a page with a video where a narrator explains it briefly: http://www.ableton.com/touch Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 10:59:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 819763BE87; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:59:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:59:17 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.no; s=s1024; t=1247395955; bh=Ep/vvg+Q3XQUSLV6WTQlNcapuF5Wc60Xk/EkKLfy3RM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=akPWIZCZ1ZLqAucju8OoVUhmulEEGfg/BPUAKCj9B850ZWAM41oXf8u6URW6oXhjwRlyeF88hAiGfsEzZqKk/cv7RqMqmuA4yXSbjaueAXplHuGma/6TgNlDGNGaUhwSjAASb72Wl7sdawG3SCIjraCoGmIOaArioZiRoMVS2fE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l36jbhYj36N0jk8maUm1KoBmCaeod9ZlAvsJrD7hivu9L18dXRp3/HDFWh0Arquvibb70b/OLkkIvGNPnXxmqer3sEjf9kPhPyKk2j2nAWfoewdN9WBZ7AiQ/8t5wydT2W2IcpOjMljrBEq3lHZ56BcBiDD2gB4JsqeDioOHzwg=; Message-ID: <880814.57940.qm@web23808.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: YUht.xgVM1lDsunP8FqSRy1PZya2pUMq06yRCcavpzjcUKECrEAqLHcDNSed9sg6gVkSteFKOi9IeDvLJ3pIxhaZ6hYrmPyeInDYS36IzS6Pc1gRfslg.EkXd0oBSISfyN.A3GT4kmmS_4PMaWQu.Dwb51ModUp0FDaJ1bW.6OmLRW9pt0LalEZZk3bfbcW3ZUK1wkjqA3kTyEXkra23HkNeNPVd3hoSjIIFWB9QsUkASR8eSIrL6EAWHmOz.E_5xKsW3hmkt4kJ9.RNILPPRnNJ1ZMT01K9Yiw3PgyRLPS93mkDe518a.HGpKOcqovSojhOSVBV3pOoPEBbzqcOTGkqNHpTukF.h9DnVUhCcG7OSYPqTAStLgTKNcNn X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:52:35 +0000 (GMT) From: rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Reply-To: rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Subject: OT - missing the third dimmension - not enough dsp power To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1780947559-1247395955=:57940" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:59:18 +0000 (UTC) --0-1780947559-1247395955=:57940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi ! The music I make misses depth - or the third dimmension - so I use delay an= d reverbs to make this dimmension - but I am not happy with the sound I get= and I dont have enough power to use the pluins like I wishes. =A0 1. Is my AD-DA converters (Motu Traveler) not good enough? Would I get a be= tter third dimmention just by switching to Agogee (16x AD-DA with big ben w= ord clock). Many producers likes this better then Pro Tools converters (Beh= ind the Glasses - Massey). Any thoughts on converters?=A02. I Is my plugins= inferior (Abletons and Sony Oxford)? The lack of power essential ? Or is h= ardware a must?=A0 3. I lack the power to use my plugins like I wishes. Any thoughts on how to= get this without buying a new computer? Is Tc power core a good solution? = and can I use Tc powercore =A0(firewire) together with Apogee Symphony Mobi= le (expresscard connection)? =A0 =A0=A0 Am=A0I=A0fooled=A0by=A0commersals=A0or would buying Apogee Symphony convert= ers and Tc=0A power core get me the third dimmension, by getting good conve= rters and enough dsp power for my plugins?=A0 best regards Rune Fagereng=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=0A=0A=0A ______________________________________= ___________________=0AAlt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kale= nder og=0Anotisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com --0-1780947559-1247395955=:57940 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Hi !

The music I make misses depth= - or the third dimmension - so I use delay and reverbs to make this dimmen= sion - but I am not happy with the sound I get and I dont have enough power= to use the pluins like I wishes.  

1. Is my AD-DA converte= rs (Motu Traveler) not good enough? Would I get a better third dimmention j= ust by switching to Agogee (16x AD-DA with big ben word clock). Many producers likes this better then Pro Tools = converters (Behind the Glasses - Massey). Any thoughts on converters?
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2. I Is my plugins inferior (Abletons and Sony Oxford)? The lack of= power essential ? Or is hardware a must? 

3. I lack the po= wer to use my plugins like I wishes. Any thoughts on how to get this withou= t buying a new computer? Is Tc power core a good solution? and can I use Tc= powercore  (firewire) together with Apogee Symphony Mobile (expressca= rd connection)?     

Am I fooled=  b= y cmme<= span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: small;">rsals or would buying Apogee Symphony converters a= nd Tc=0A power core get me the third dimmension, by getting good converters= and enough dsp power for my plugins? 

best regards Rune Fa= gereng
 
 
 

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just a little....you won&= #39;t miss it

:O)

On Sun, Jul 12, = 2009 at 2:16 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
"Midsummer F= lute Trance Ritual" must be the most cheesy song title I
penned so far for improvised instrumental music. Here's a link for
listening: =A0http://bit.= ly/dQcUh


--001485f5cede1e784a046e807c43-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 12:24:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84C303BE7E; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8rZX9BIDdKjV8amtR8qlc8oDpTS9P0V/XvOd1tpf9mk=; b=Ojmv7ZgZQdRg8aTudK5QnFLRpwQg5QaJZfH81pM5tU6akj2HXEKXReGpHwEB8hCsOP 51541FZGenaPh5ND7RTumIpFDoBQFELwh0Mj9vIfBdsT8wZ5/TUhyjvDSR/jS1aW78bZ 0coPiCEMeGTUmSN+HjLvGnYaeXoX8TpDDxOFY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bjvmuQffHmgayCk0AMbxnb7rRDmjd6zuz0Bjkd6dz/Z5tfFM3fk4cjLDSp/mo1cEHr E0HaV3X5mVr36jyhtc4zHNQYNmKLLST+M0r+IQMS5AHt/ik7/XnGHWQLYCFQ98m8uoEp 4o1+3HXdbuRpsChE8Lt3VdV20asPnUjojdVoU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907120523q1ca0b57focd0df15ad44efff9@mail.gmail.com> References: <880814.57940.qm@web23808.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0907120523q1ca0b57focd0df15ad44efff9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:24:44 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907120524q31692daam181b6b888ae66903@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT - missing the third dimmension - not enough dsp power From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:24:45 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 12:52 PM, wrote: > The music I make misses depth - or the third dimmension - so I use delay and > reverbs to make this dimmension Not the best choice, I would say. You should start with the frequencies. "Paint with frequencies!" Dark sounds for background, mood etc and bright sounds for punctuation up front. Or the other way around; bright sound at very low volume to create "three dimensional sonic clouds". When that stuff works fine for you is the time to bring in reverb and delay to sculpt the dimensions into the same directions. > 1. Is my AD-DA converters (Motu Traveler) not good enough? Depends on what you do. If you record to reproduce acoustic sound the Motu may not be good enough. But if you record to make cool music the Motu is good enough - because then you are setting your own references. > 2. I Is my plugins inferior (Abletons and Sony Oxford)? The lack of power > essential ? Or is hardware a must? Sony Oxford are known to be good enough plug-ins. Some like Abletons too. Hardware is not a must. > 3. I lack the power to use my plugins like I wishes. Any thoughts on how to > get this without buying a new computer? YES! Freeze tracks with plug-ins to free up CPU cycles. THis doesn't work for real-time playing on stage though, but you can set up your performance rig to render many files of your live music playing and then you import them into a mixing environment and do the 3D magic. > Is Tc power core a good solution? Don't know. Depends on what "good" means. A couple of years ago Tc was "good" because it made your computer stronger for mixing. BAck in the days I remember Tc Powercore was held as a system that offered great digital reverb, while the compressors etc were better in UAD-1 (UAD-2 is available now, which you should check out if you are going this route) I never bought into any of these DSP empowering systems myself though, since I use Logic and then you have no such limit thanks to the option of chaining all your old Macs as ethernet nodes to the one you produce on. Like building a "CPU network" with Logic as the brain. But I have never actually been forced to set up a node system, even though I have tried it out just for curiosity. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 13:43:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 679423BE78; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:43:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7Y2NMbyT3wEifjOLQDApuHUrgBQxifg0GrfcjvLrCdU=; b=JMAngthOPrNCHa/5lTQCQop8hgNqMft7EJz8SlWfEUfB+QoVoVtfVTD8ognhOtlwIC Q52rbDQp2kpnzj6y+rhn2PR8GuNdIZ+xDV2QnBE24JXTVeEgznpvNoY6jx/fYaVuae7Q 2z84ApxZWz1ag6StbYdDE1ufNcEA6h3ikQDLU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Iji0Ds7EkWlIS5nyAHcDfvQUK7cWyg7LjTKrU4jw4odXPdYaQ/sfBJYzlEDKbH9Hwh f80zjHhz5lAaKZ2B0B1lI2wwbcM3xCqxE2kWI10x+pC5B/C8ZrTm9/pycMdskemm3aFU qkMPOTuCGQaJ4vDs32euYpmQ0utIX8VD1OVxE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:43:55 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907120643q6d925844q3f39a4e613e9dc97@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Another piece published: "Stretching Time" From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7tTQ1.A.ecC.cieWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:43:56 +0000 (UTC) Please listen with good sub bass definition: http://bit.ly/2vfc59 I'm into exploring time now and looping is good for that. Imagine a hot period in the middle of the summer at a latitude where the sun never goes down. You have no time schedule, nothing really happening in the outer world until many weeks away. The only things that might remind you about time still flowing is that your body gets hungry and now and then needs to shut down for sleep. The state of mind you get into under such circumstances is what I find the greatest musical inspiration in. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 14:51:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59F6B3BE78; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:51:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907120643q6d925844q3f39a4e613e9dc97@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907120643q6d925844q3f39a4e613e9dc97@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:51:18 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Another piece published: "Stretching Time" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <73u6Z.A.rGG.rhfWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:51:23 +0000 (UTC) At 3:43 PM +0200 7/12/09, Per Boysen wrote: >Please listen with good sub bass definition: >http://bit.ly/2vfc59 Crumbs! Can't see 'em -- either this one or the last you uploaded. Whole page loads, but no player and no sound. No error message either: just all the annoying ads, user profile, etc. and no way to play the music. I'll DL another browser to see if that's the issue (currently using the latest ver of Opera on OSX) but only 'cause it's your stuff, Per, and I know I'll want to hear it. In most cases, I'd just mutter "this site is f*cked" and move on without saying a word. Might wanna let Ubetoo know that they're probably losing viewers due to incompatibility issues. --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 15:54:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 202313BE70; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907120524q31692daam181b6b888ae66903@mail.gmail.com> References: <880814.57940.qm@web23808.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0907120523q1ca0b57focd0df15ad44efff9@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907120524q31692daam181b6b888ae66903@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: OT - missing the third dimmension - not enough dsp power Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:54:42 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <_5_P0B.A.78H.IdgWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Per, Forgive me for interrupting a conversation I'm not a part of. However, you said . . . On Jul 12, 2009, at 5:24 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I never bought into any of these DSP empowering systems myself though, > since I use Logic and then you have no such limit thanks to the option > of chaining all your old Macs as ethernet nodes to the one you produce > on. Like building a "CPU network" with Logic as the brain. But I have > never actually been forced to set up a node system, even though I have > tried it out just for curiosity. I'd be interested in hearing more about this. You see, I just took the big leap and bought a new MacBook Pro with 4GB ram and 320GB HD and it's coming pre-loaded with Logic 8 (a program I've never used and know little about, but thought I'd give a try). The thought that I could still use com of my older Macs in some sort of fashion (and I do have a lot of older software that I really do like that they will never publish for the new OS) is quite fascinating and exciting for me. How does this work. M computer is still in shipment (not even arrived yet from Apple) but I am curious. Best regards, Ted Killian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 16:03:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B10E53BE7E; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <8CD4109B-65CA-4482-889E-1AEDD06096ED@guru-records.com> From: Omid Shirazi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-671925554 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: ableton live X-Priority: 3 Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:03:01 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:03:03 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-671925554 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi JP, there is a artist called Kid Beyond from Sanfransico who has checked out the possibilities of using ableton with a midi-footmachine. And it works:) He says, that he is not touching the computer during the whole performance! Earlier he used with ableton: http://www.bome.com/ helping to translate MIDI events into keystrokes! I think it is the right tool for you. Here is the link to his video: http://downloads.ableton.com/artists/kid_beyond/kid_beyond.mov and his myspace: http://www.myspace.com/kidbeyond Hope that helps you:) And...I like your music too! Cheers, Omid audio visual artist mailto: smoking@guru-records.com phone: +49-178-78 52 223 Am 12.07.2009 um 12:21 schrieb Jean Philippe: > Hi there, > I don't know if I told you but I'm blind. this prevents me from > using a computer onstage because I would need to hear my screen > reader speak while I'm performing. What a drag! > But I was told that Live could be used with a MIDI controller > without having to use the mouse and look at the screen at all. How > true do you think this is? > Cheers, > JPR > http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel --Apple-Mail-2-671925554 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi JP,

there = is a artist called Kid Beyond from Sanfransico who has checked out the = possibilities of using ableton with a = midi-footmachine. And it works:)
He says,&nb= sp;that he is not touching the computer = ;during the whole performance!

Ear= lier he used with ableton:
helping to translate MIDI events into keystrokes! I think it = is the right tool for = you.
Here is the link to his video= :

and his myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/kidbeyond=

Hope that = helps you:)
And...I like your music = too!
Cheers,
Omid


audio visual = artist
mailto: smoking@guru-records.com
phone: = +49-178-78 52 223

Am 12.07.2009 = um 12:21 schrieb Jean Philippe:

Hi there,
I = don't know if I told you but I'm blind. this prevents me from using a = computer onstage because I would need to hear my screen reader speak = while I'm performing. What a drag!
But I was told that Live could be used with a MIDI = controller without having to use the mouse and look at the screen at = all. How true do you think this = is?
Cheers,
JPR

<= /body>= --Apple-Mail-2-671925554-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 16:22:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C89D3BE79; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090712162225730.B250620000A9@mwinf1907.orange.fr Message-ID: From: "Jean Philippe" To: References: <8CD4109B-65CA-4482-889E-1AEDD06096ED@guru-records.com> Subject: Re: ableton live Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:22:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007A_01CA031D.B70BF6F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:22:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01CA031D.B70BF6F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks alot Omid, I'll check it out. JP http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Omid Shirazi=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: Re: ableton live Hi JP, there is a artist called Kid Beyond from Sanfransico who has checked = out the possibilities of using ableton with a midi-footmachine. And it = works:) He says, that he is not touching the computer during the whole = performance! Earlier he used with ableton: http://www.bome.com/=20 helping to translate MIDI events into keystrokes! I think it is the = right tool for you. Here is the link to his video: http://downloads.ableton.com/artists/kid_beyond/kid_beyond.mov and his myspace: http://www.myspace.com/kidbeyond Hope that helps you:) And...I like your music too! Cheers, Omid audio visual artist mailto: smoking@guru-records.com phone: +49-178-78 52 223 Am 12.07.2009 um 12:21 schrieb Jean Philippe: Hi there, I don't know if I told you but I'm blind. this prevents me from = using a computer onstage because I would need to hear my screen reader = speak while I'm performing. What a drag! But I was told that Live could be used with a MIDI controller = without having to use the mouse and look at the screen at all. How true = do you think this is? Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01CA031D.B70BF6F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks alot Omid,
I'll check it out.
JP
 
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Omid=20 Shirazi
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 = 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: ableton live

Hi JP,

there is a artist called Kid Beyond from Sanfransico who has = checked out=20 the possibilities of using ableton with a=20 midi-footmachine. And it works:)
=
He says, that he is not touching = the computer during the whole performance!
=

Earlier he used with ableton:

helping to translate MIDI events into keystrokes! I think it is = the right=20 tool for you.
=
Here is the link to his video:
h= ttp://downloads.ableton.com/artists/kid_beyond/kid_beyond.mov

and his myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/kidbeyon= d

Hope that helps you:)
And...I like your music too!
Cheers,
Omid


audio visual artist
mailto: smoking@guru-records.com
phone: +49-178-78 52 223

Am 12.07.2009 um 12:21 schrieb Jean Philippe:
Hi there,
I don't know if I told = you but I'm=20 blind. this prevents me from using a computer onstage because I = would need=20 to hear my screen reader speak while I'm performing. What a=20 drag!
But I was told that Live could be = used with a=20 MIDI controller without having to use the mouse and look at the = screen at=20 all. How true do you think this is?
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel

 ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01CA031D.B70BF6F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 17:29:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30A1E3BE7C; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:29:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Wf442loVsx2a+xc5Ti0rYCjabvVv439ZtuBdZIliN+U=; b=w2aI8RnMh7EY5ucqiedEmkG24UapuR8qbv6Q4uTk1cNwL9GZzRbpYGDPWD3T1ExNWn oykZaphaLaCGi6LWUfajH7IdMWLNQTMrrEX+PpUWhZwuwuNqlON9CTrU1DXm7Hz63LDU 9QWQ8cmtHiuKOs4VNrcPczyjOQ7aPmZfJbN1M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aAFNx8xQtuF7e2HrrhatEuJ9+tJ58fbRnNahBAqsKDrtw3DlNP+D3pEaXFi/ztx6bb i7sZzw1vRO4x53IVTrkIFgUrDUsDvWSo4uW6plDvVRukQvH/Qb9kZ3IFn7wIXsn5j5CL ixgOiuMPhVwqIr2LRK2vL7I9o20ZrtEWDdA0M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <880814.57940.qm@web23808.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0907120523q1ca0b57focd0df15ad44efff9@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907120524q31692daam181b6b888ae66903@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:29:55 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907121029m4d16aa48sc6305ae8fca821d9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT - missing the third dimmension - not enough dsp power From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5u7x9C.A.X3C.U2hWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:29:56 +0000 (UTC) > On Jul 12, 2009, at 5:24 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> I never bought into any of these DSP empowering systems myself though, >> since I use Logic and then you have no such limit thanks to the option >> of chaining all your old Macs as ethernet nodes to the one you produce >> on. Like building a "CPU network" with Logic as the brain. But I have >> never actually been forced to set up a node system, even though I have >> tried it out just for curiosity. On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 5:54 PM, tEd =C2=AE KiLLiAn= wrote: > I'd be interested in hearing more about this. > > You see, I just took the big leap and bought a new MacBook Pro with 4GB r= am > and 320GB HD and it's coming pre-loaded with Logic 8 (a program I've neve= r > used and know little about, but thought I'd give a try). Wow, what a deal! :-) > The thought that I could still use com of my older Macs in some sort of > fashion (and I do have a lot of older software that I really do like that > they will never publish for the new OS) is quite fascinating and exciting > for me. > > How does this work. > > M computer is still in shipment (not even arrived yet from Apple) but I a= m > curious. It works like this: You load up your recording project in Logic on one computer. Then you tic "Enable Logic Nodes" in Logic's preferences and connect one ore more Macs through the gigabit network port. On the node machine(s) you have to start the Node applications, that comes as a utility with Logic Pro. What happens then on your central workstation machine is that every track that runs Logic propriety plug-ins or instruments gets a new button that you may push in order to distribute this track's workload over the network. An exception is the sampler EXS24, its workload can not be distributed because of legal licensing issues with the sample library used by Logic. But all other Logic synths is fine for nodes. Third-party plug-ins and instruments can not be distributed either. But as for all EQ, compression, delay and reverb there is not much anyway that sounds better and the Logic built-in stuff, so you will always be able to offload quite a bit of your main machine. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 21:05:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C21613BE7E; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:references; bh=abKvaTkADKLaMGKC+mNq/r/+Ny5jzsfBbUI5zrr6unI=; b=o3NN6wli27FJp3UIO37Iz1swYovbxLtK22aoSvtgVzwAFmn3SY3bl30wnjQoAA2jG6 frwqAxb14h/nCSM50Rj6rzrB0wuuYOxv+Gme3dRkRMZUNcuYSFaKHq4WkS8jyFhO098w Re12DHabGKxVN4/559p2dM1j3ITR8i5rurZlw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; b=KeLHCIkfJHOuGKGA6nP0+17SarLjgbhNPfoV1JhvAYRLJG989/8oXZtG9/HLLZOgn0 KE++vC6MxRMszwOhgAB1tk+AV/VTfC+UkFYGlNIwlIx6kHi5/B5S+CJmfQ/9o+0+DVqa 1xAzaofBIWg3N8+BQ98dwLiDbHY/3Jx29qIW4= Message-Id: From: Mark Sottilaro To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-690054767 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A341) Subject: Re: ableton live Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:05:10 -0700 References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:05:18 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-690054767 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I suggest finding a retailer that will let you spend some time with the akai apc40 as it's designed for total mouse free performance. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2009, at 3:21 AM, "Jean Philippe" wrote: > Hi there, > I don't know if I told you but I'm blind. this prevents me from > using a computer onstage because I would need to hear my screen > reader speak while I'm performing. What a drag! > But I was told that Live could be used with a MIDI controller > without having to use the mouse and look at the screen at all. How > true do you think this is? > Cheers, > JPR > http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel --Apple-Mail-5-690054767 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I suggest finding a retailer that will let you spend some time with the akai apc40 as it's designed for total mouse free performance.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 12, 2009, at 3:21 AM, "Jean Philippe" <jp.rykiel@orange.fr> wrote:

Hi there,
I don't know if I told you but I'm blind. this prevents me from using a computer onstage because I would need to hear my screen reader speak while I'm performing. What a drag!
But I was told that Live could be used with a MIDI controller without having to use the mouse and look at the screen at all. How true do you think this is?
Cheers,
JPR
--Apple-Mail-5-690054767-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 21:28:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAEC53BE77; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A5A5676.90701@dehnhard.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:32:38 +0200 From: Tilmann Dehnhard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ableton live References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+/waPCGsuHJ0xG43n+p98mjMOqSe066LlqIWW 5tJcKKWaifbf9sup3b4ERQHiGtFG7SzEbsuqVVfz9nZdeMMknp FMamtNs+q78eZq/ba/k8LG6U38kchDO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:28:54 +0000 (UTC) some people make it a goal not to look at the screen while playing, so everything gets automated to an extent where you don't need to check visually. zoe keating said something like that in an interview. i saw kid beyond live and he had closed the laptop. best - tilmann Jean Philippe schrieb: > Hi there, > I don't know if I told you but I'm blind. this prevents me from using > a computer onstage because I would need to hear my screen reader speak > while I'm performing. What a drag! > But I was told that Live could be used with a MIDI controller without > having to use the mouse and look at the screen at all. How true do you > think this is? > Cheers, > JPR > http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 21:38:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 055093BE7C; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:38:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EJD1yUqcbfH29rtyPR/LLiLjbxWJg3SeE/TVjIJrb3o=; b=RPL/duSvrFpV8qhlRGubs4D13kRbj+RXXYOyFEgE+6yp0sSS17sIkcqq/fGUbFHh4V ihqQC5RHUwtOMRkmiOiiF4brHTpYJltCMC/rBUc9ybUEYY6FliltJ7V+rf+kiOGLLI8x RiVeFV6ISHRcadrOpQH+bGyr5RdT7VmEft81s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mrXW2dig8rBdgBLH4MYmYURrccopC1Ev6SaKxHdECqUNoLp4JBlk1nYsjKiNbZpK5G XBigEJ/OiQ32zaBwYKAxp8KDD08so9EZSwoC/yRA+ZP0cPTT4SG756JHrvCAOgHTJ7HA ES4d2Pe+TsFfpnmnDIMWIA8tyDBP5p6bnCDc4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A5A5676.90701@dehnhard.com> References: <4A5A5676.90701@dehnhard.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:38:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ableton live From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7XnPbD.A.3fF.aflWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:38:34 +0000 (UTC) hi jpr, is that you that appears on some yossou n'dour cd credits as producer? awesome you find loopers-delight, and welcome! ra=FCl. 2009/7/12, Tilmann Dehnhard : > some people make it a goal not to look at the screen while playing, so > everything gets automated to an extent where you don't need to check > visually. > zoe keating said something like that in an interview. > i saw kid beyond live and he had closed the laptop. > best - tilmann > > Jean Philippe schrieb: >> Hi there, >> I don't know if I told you but I'm blind. this prevents me from using >> a computer onstage because I would need to hear my screen reader speak >> while I'm performing. What a drag! >> But I was told that Live could be used with a MIDI controller without >> having to use the mouse and look at the screen at all. How true do you >> think this is? >> Cheers, >> JPR >> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 21:38:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C3E53BE86; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090712213835766.BB15D20000B4@mwinf1923.orange.fr Message-ID: <28EDBA11012A48029B1353B5557E1B28@portable2jpr> From: "Jean Philippe" To: References: Subject: Re: ableton live Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:38:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0106_01CA0349.E209F600" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:38:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0106_01CA0349.E209F600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I heard that this Akai thing had buttons that light in different colours = every time you press them, this scares me. JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Sottilaro=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:05 PM Subject: Re: ableton live I suggest finding a retailer that will let you spend some time with = the akai apc40 as it's designed for total mouse free performance. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2009, at 3:21 AM, "Jean Philippe" = wrote: Hi there, I don't know if I told you but I'm blind. this prevents me from = using a computer onstage because I would need to hear my screen reader = speak while I'm performing. What a drag! But I was told that Live could be used with a MIDI controller = without having to use the mouse and look at the screen at all. How true = do you think this is? Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ------=_NextPart_000_0106_01CA0349.E209F600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
I heard that this Akai thing had = buttons=20 that light in different colours every time you press them, this scares=20 me.
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark=20 Sottilaro
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 = 11:05=20 PM
Subject: Re: ableton live

I suggest finding a retailer that will let you spend some time = with the=20 akai apc40 as it's designed for total mouse free = performance.

Sent from=20 my iPhone

On Jul 12, 2009, at 3:21 AM, "Jean Philippe" <jp.rykiel@orange.fr>=20 wrote:

Hi there,
I don't know if I told = you but I'm=20 blind. this prevents me from using a computer onstage because I = would need=20 to hear my screen reader speak while I'm performing. What a=20 drag!
But I was told that Live could be = used with a=20 MIDI controller without having to use the mouse and look at the = screen at=20 all. How true do you think this is?
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
------=_NextPart_000_0106_01CA0349.E209F600-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 22:00:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B15003BE73; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090712214640754.B831B1C00081@mwinf3418.me.freeserve.com Message-Id: <2329C163-1127-4DC4-8FB9-224C598AA133@con-brio.com> From: Steve Bingham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Bidule midi question Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:42:12 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Do any Bidule users out there know how I can do the following, as I'm pretty new to the program: I have two midi inputs coming into Bidule from external sources, on two different midi channels. One is connected up to a synth module (Absynth). I would like to use a range of note on values from the other input to control the volume in Absynth. Any ideas welcome!! Thanks, Steve From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 22:21:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1BAA3BE73; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=db9jEyfxHnAfbYMikPhmt9OYilx/eBM9cjFcWUf62O8=; b=mx0P55qoAKnfcqitCn24RbCCdEBYyx5dVCRh7at7BOPUYqhJMPCyULJ6S4xBaF52dX M8uAKbNPeipc0UdVDI++/bBrWL5SORcDxTuCg2VRl53tskuJ5/CpzveXas2L9CqJsf8/ bdQq6Qc2HjWvtxBkBCG1BOIwUV6J+IpSkd7Tk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=hWaNjs6KP6N/kqgNvx6j9URJIq6e62iQHlm79707m0vjkEGIUVRVC6yaYZfK+drRUx KgWEYnCMe6ESOhJD3O3KGgwift3wSh4X4yWxWQKXkVXUuRUq8UHNiIAXdu3f1MNvPgda CJz/4k3VSQium4Yss02k9LbhCRsKI7HGnpCZQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:21:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: couch-surfage in Brooklyn or Albany? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, On two of my tour nights, Saturday 7/25 in Albany (NY) and Sunday 7/26 in Brooklyn, I don't yet have a place to sleep. I could reserve a hotel room, but that kind of defeats the point of going on tour and meeting people. Would anyone be interested in letting me sleep on their couch? I could certainly get you into the show for free, shower you with some free cds (figuratively), and if you're available, take you out to breakfast the next morning. I'm just 1 person, pet friendly, won't make a mess. In both cases, it'd just be one night, since I need to run off somewhere else the next day. Please let me know! Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 22:22:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F226E3BE81; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ejy6/m+1OMk4+mITIVoInHec77F6ClKVrsUnxHDz3XI=; b=Rv1LhpvM/w0zO+7TCkhs4xj+1snuWBvzc+t2ax67OoYJVJTwQbe4avfbNDk46xfzok sBR++fu/fAJM+1OB52O5SNz6uUEkUMM0nXPypb7YcVxIVAadB82HOYgUXYIgRMOsvcju mQayCJHe851taHnC1kCn+Jey3jOxjttFZBXcY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Zc5E5uxyyulQGAZWTjLaU6E4yhaF90j0yaIqBIjJHOPK940f/m71ABfdHmpbF/EyhX tFVhHfvsYiOmvRREviZLTsYEwjc08jZS91IJc06XAu78/zjWknkxcJGQaDkBfGAH5qz+ dhQge6hyhJuqA2bAtZqJwj5cqnY/+aL515ccM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2329C163-1127-4DC4-8FB9-224C598AA133@con-brio.com> References: <2329C163-1127-4DC4-8FB9-224C598AA133@con-brio.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:22:49 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907121522u4a0656aak94e7c5e07db0ef7f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Bidule midi question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3CxZCD.A.RMH.5ImWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:22:49 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Steve Bingham wrote: > Do any Bidule users out there know how I can do the following, as I'm pretty > new to the program: > > I have two midi inputs coming into Bidule from external sources, on two > different midi channels. One is connected up to a synth module (Absynth). I > would like to use a range of note on values from the other input to control > the volume in Absynth. > > Any ideas welcome!! Having two MIDI In ports is no problem. You can either (1) cable MIDI streams wherever you need to send them or through Bidules that filters, transposes, remaps etc. Or you can (2) use the Parameters Window to directly assign some MIDI to a target parameter. Or you can just double-click and Bidule or plug-in and click its "MIDI Learn" button, touch a parameters graphical object and send in the external MIDI you want to create a binding to. After having done this you mustn't forget to turn off the MIDI Learn function - or you will end up with hundreds of parameters assigned to your precious pedal ;-)) Regarding that "range of notes" you want to control Abysynth volume I have a feeling that it would make a good start convert those notes to either MIDI CC# or direct parameter control data. I would look for a way to that to start with. Might need some scaling to work, which is done by first opening the plug-in's GUI then clicking its button marked "Params" (at the top Bidule shell) and then selecting the actual parameter in the parmeters list in the left column. You can then set Min and Max value for the parameter to scale it to you musical need. I'm sorry I don't know the details, but the manual is quite ok for looking up things and at the Bidule forum people are very keen on helping. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 22:46:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BF113BE73; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 566 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:46:02 UTC X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 1585928677 Message-ID: <1585928677-1247438192-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2138921162-@bxe1252.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Reply-To: harryesq@aol.com X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: couch-surfage in Brooklyn or Albany? From: harryesq@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:37:58 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:46:02 +0000 (UTC) TWF0dCAtIEknbSBnb29kIGZvciBTdW5kYXkgbmlnaHQgaWYgV29vZG1lcmUgd29ya3MgZm9yIHlv dS4NCi0tLS0tLU9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UtLS0tLS0NCkZyb206IE1hdHQgRGF2aWdub24NClRv OiBMb29wZXJzIERlbGlnaHQNClJlcGx5VG86IExvb3BlcnMtRGVsaWdodEBsb29wZXJzLWRlbGln aHQuY29tDQpTdWJqZWN0OiBjb3VjaC1zdXJmYWdlIGluIEJyb29rbHluIG9yIEFsYmFueT8NClNl bnQ6IEp1bCAxMiwgMjAwOSA2OjIxIFBNDQoNCkhpIGFsbCwNCg0KT24gdHdvIG9mIG15IHRvdXIg bmlnaHRzLCBTYXR1cmRheSA3LzI1IGluIEFsYmFueSAoTlkpIGFuZCBTdW5kYXkgNy8yNg0KaW4g QnJvb2tseW4sIEkgZG9uJ3QgeWV0IGhhdmUgYSBwbGFjZSB0byBzbGVlcC4gSSBjb3VsZCByZXNl cnZlIGENCmhvdGVsIHJvb20sIGJ1dCB0aGF0IGtpbmQgb2YgZGVmZWF0cyB0aGUgcG9pbnQgb2Yg Z29pbmcgb24gdG91ciBhbmQNCm1lZXRpbmcgcGVvcGxlLiBXb3VsZCBhbnlvbmUgYmUgaW50ZXJl c3RlZCBpbiBsZXR0aW5nIG1lIHNsZWVwIG9uDQp0aGVpciBjb3VjaD8gSSBjb3VsZCBjZXJ0YWlu bHkgZ2V0IHlvdSBpbnRvIHRoZSBzaG93IGZvciBmcmVlLCBzaG93ZXINCnlvdSB3aXRoIHNvbWUg ZnJlZSBjZHMgKGZpZ3VyYXRpdmVseSksIGFuZCBpZiB5b3UncmUgYXZhaWxhYmxlLCB0YWtlDQp5 b3Ugb3V0IHRvIGJyZWFrZmFzdCB0aGUgbmV4dCBtb3JuaW5nLg0KDQpJJ20ganVzdCAxIHBlcnNv biwgcGV0IGZyaWVuZGx5LCB3b24ndCBtYWtlIGEgbWVzcy4gSW4gYm90aCBjYXNlcywNCml0J2Qg anVzdCBiZSBvbmUgbmlnaHQsIHNpbmNlIEkgbmVlZCB0byBydW4gb2ZmIHNvbWV3aGVyZSBlbHNl IHRoZQ0KbmV4dCBkYXkuDQoNClBsZWFzZSBsZXQgbWUga25vdyENCg0KTWF0dCBEYXZpZ25vbg0K d3d3LnJpYm9zb21lbXVzaWMuY29tDQoNCg0KDQpTZW50IGZyb20gbXkgQmxhY2tCZXJyea4gc21h cnRwaG9uZSB3aXRoIFNwcmludFNwZWVk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 22:56:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B235B3BE7E; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090712225600917.165BF20000A0@mwinf1921.orange.fr Message-ID: From: "Jean Philippe" To: References: <4A5A5676.90701@dehnhard.com> Subject: Re: ableton live Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:56:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013F_01CA0354.B2417190" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:56:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_013F_01CA0354.B2417190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yep, and we still work together. He's an amazing guy. JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Raul Bonell=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:38 PM Subject: Re: ableton live hi jpr, is that you that appears on some yossou n'dour cd credits as producer? awesome you find loopers-delight, and welcome! ra=FCl. 2009/7/12, Tilmann Dehnhard : > some people make it a goal not to look at the screen while playing, = so > everything gets automated to an extent where you don't need to check > visually. > zoe keating said something like that in an interview. > i saw kid beyond live and he had closed the laptop. > best - tilmann > > Jean Philippe schrieb: >> Hi there, >> I don't know if I told you but I'm blind. this prevents me from = using >> a computer onstage because I would need to hear my screen reader = speak >> while I'm performing. What a drag! >> But I was told that Live could be used with a MIDI controller = without >> having to use the mouse and look at the screen at all. How true do = you >> think this is? >> Cheers, >> JPR >> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com ------=_NextPart_000_013F_01CA0354.B2417190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yep, and we still work together. He's = an amazing=20 guy.
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Raul=20 Bonell
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 = 11:38=20 PM
Subject: Re: ableton live


hi jpr,

is that you that appears on some = yossou=20 n'dour cd credits as producer?

awesome you find = loopers-delight, and=20 welcome!
ra=FCl.

2009/7/12, Tilmann Dehnhard <tilmann@dehnhard.com>:
>= ; some=20 people make it a goal not to look at the screen while playing, = so
>=20 everything gets automated to an extent where you don't need to = check
>=20 visually.
> zoe keating said something like that in an=20 interview.
> i saw kid beyond live and he had closed the = laptop.
>=20 best -  tilmann
>
> Jean Philippe = schrieb:
>> Hi=20 there,
>> I don't know if I told you but I'm blind. this = prevents me=20 from using
>> a computer onstage because I would need to hear = my=20 screen reader speak
>> while I'm performing. What a = drag!
>>=20 But I was told that Live could be used with a MIDI controller=20 without
>> having to use the mouse and look at the screen at = all. How=20 true do you
>> think this is?
>> Cheers,
>> = JPR
>> http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
>
>


--=20
Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain=20 Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 12 23:24:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 087A63BE77; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_wufTv7So0ZjyNNBk7VK8ow)" Message-id: From: Andy Schoen To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-reply-to: <278DA7BCB79D456088DD261D24EC8628@portable2jpr> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:24:03 -0700 References: <1DE2A8A651A545ED8CCB94BAE528B2A8@portable2jpr> <541F1AD705DF449DAAB509806FEEECC3@portable2jpr> <64B1E03130BE40BA925006108B02A92D@portable2jpr> <2871c3a90907110654n5576a975oe6bc7a11d5e48329@mail.gmail.com> <144144571086915201448850180192995518219-Webmail@me.com> <278DA7BCB79D456088DD261D24EC8628@portable2jpr> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:24:10 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_wufTv7So0ZjyNNBk7VK8ow) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hey Jean-philippe, Thanks for the offer. The link has been posted, I'll try that first. =20= If that doesn't work, I'll check back with you! I'll see what happens with the files! Post back if this solves your =20 issue, ok! Keep creating! Andy! To listen to some of my music please visit: www.untitledvisions.com It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe! On Jul 11, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Jean Philippe wrote: > Hi Andy, > does this list except attachments? If it doesn't I can send the =20 > files directly to you. But here is my problem : as I said in my =20 > earlier message, 2.1 comes with three files in 2.4 only comes with =20 > two files so it means that you may have to reinstall 2.1 first but I =20= > don't know in which order these three files must be installed. If =20 > someone has kept the installation instructions for 2.1 it would be =20 > of great help. > I have both versions in my machine ready to be sent. > And thanks for the nice comments on my music, that feels good. > Cheers, > JPR > http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andrew Schoen > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:11 PM > Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! > > > Hello everyone! > > I also have a Repeater that has been acting a little off. Thanks =20 > for the directions regarding the 2.04 system upgrade. I feel I need =20= > to reinstall this myself, but can't seem to find the files to =20 > download. Can someone help me out and send me the link. > > Much appreciated. Also, Jean Philippe your music is fantastic. =20 > Very nice! > > Andy > > You Can Find My Music here: > www.untitledvisons.com > http://www.reverbnation.com/untitledvisions > > It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe! > > > On Saturday, July 11, 2009, at 06:54AM, "Sylvain Poitras" = > wrote: > >Salut JP, > >voici les directives pour l'installation: > > > >Instructions for system 2.04 > >1- first copy RBS_P1-4.rbf and Sys2-10b04.raf onto the flash card > >2- unplug power supply to repeater > >3- insert flash card > >4- power up repeater > >5- use tempo knob to select RBS_P16 - press record to install > >7- see a message to "cycle power" > >8- unplug power supply to repeater > >9- power up repeater > >10- use tempo knob to select Sys2-10 > >11 -press record to install Sys2-10 > >12- repeater boots up with new sys2! > > > >Sylvain > > > > > >On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Jean Philippe =20= > wrote: > >> Hi, me again. > >> If someone could give me detailed instructions about reinstalling =20= > the > >> repeater software, that would be very kind because I lost them. =20 > The software > >> itself contains several files and I remember that they had to be =20= > installed > >> in a specific order, but no idea which. > >> Thanks for your help. > >> Cheers, > >> JPR > >> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Jean Philippe > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:41 AM > >> Subject: Re: What happened to my repeater ? ! > >> Dear Fro, > >> I'm very glad to hear that you liked my music. It's very =20 > encouraging because > >> it's the kind of music that doesn't sell these days since it's a =20= > little too > >> far from what people call electronic music. > >> Thanks again. > >> Back to the subject, do you think there is a replacement unit for =20= > the > >> repeater if I cannot get it to work properly. I thought of the RC =20= > 50 but it > >> doesn't look as straightforward as the repeater was. Yet it's the =20= > only > >> multitrack hardware loop machine I know of. > >> Of course, I would love to go Ableton but it's yet impossible for =20= > visually > >> impaired users. > >> Cheers, > >> JPR > >> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: FRO DIDDLY > >> To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > >> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:10 AM > >> Subject: RE: What happened to my repeater ? ! > >> i owned 4 of those darn things once upon a time and for the life =20= > of me i > >> cant remember if you can reset to factory defaults- > >> just read through the booklet, i dont think its possible- > >> ild say switch out all cables involved and if that doesnt work, =20 > re-install > >> the operating system > >> > >> probably didnt help ya at all, but the important thing is that =20 > you just > >> earned a fan for life- > >> im a first time listener, and am completely captivated by the =20 > intricacy of > >> your music > >> > >> salut! > >> > >> fro > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: jp.rykiel@orange.fr > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> Subject: What happened to my repeater ? ! > >> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:41:11 +0200 > >> > >> Hi there, > >> I hadn't used my repeater for a bit, and it's acting weird now. > >> When overdubbing , what I just played comes out with a small but =20= > very > >> noticeable delay against what was previously on the track, I =20 > would say about > >> 30 ms. I have software 2.1, and unpowering the machine doesn't do =20= > any good. > >> I don't even know if there is a way to reset it completely. > >> Since the Electrix site and forum are closed, you're my only hope. > >> Thanks for your help, > >> Cheers, > >> JPR > >> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> Windows Live=E2=84=A2: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. > > > > > > > --Boundary_(ID_wufTv7So0ZjyNNBk7VK8ow) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Hey = Jean-philippe,

Thanks for the offer.  The = link has been posted, I'll try that first.  If that doesn't work, = I'll check back with you!

I'll see what happens = with the files!  Post back if this solves your issue, = ok!

Keep = creating!

Andy!

To listen to some of my = music please visit: www.untitledvisions.com
It's a Rock-N-Roll = Universe!

On Jul 11, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Jean = Philippe <jp.rykiel@orange.fr> = wrote:

Hi Andy,
does this list except = attachments? If=20 it doesn't I can send the files directly to you. But here is my problem = : as I=20 said in my earlier message, 2.1 comes with three files in 2.4 only comes = with=20 two files so it means that you may have to reinstall 2.1 first but I = don't know=20 in which order these three files must be installed. If someone = has=20 kept the installation instructions for 2.1 it would be of great=20 help.
I have both versions in my machine = ready to be=20 sent.
And thanks for the nice = comments on my=20 music, that feels good.
Cheers,
JPR
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 = 8:11=20 PM
Subject: Re: What happened to = my repeater=20 ? !


Hello everyone!

I also have a Repeater that = has been=20 acting a little off.  Thanks for the directions regarding the = 2.04 system=20 upgrade.  I feel I need to reinstall this myself, but can't seem = to find=20 the files to download.  Can someone help me out and send me the=20= link.

Much appreciated.  Also, Jean Philippe your music is=20= fantastic.  Very nice! 

Andy

You Can Find My = Music=20 here:
www.untitledvisons.com
<= a href=3D"http://www.reverbnation.com/untitledvisions">http://www.reverbnati= on.com/untitledvisions

It's=20 a Rock-N-Roll Universe!

 
On Saturday, July 11, 2009, = at=20 06:54AM, "Sylvain Poitras" <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com<= /a>>=20 wrote:
>Salut JP,
>voici les directives pour=20 l'installation:
>
>Instructions for system 2.04
>1- = first=20 copy RBS_P1-4.rbf  and  Sys2-10b04.raf onto the flash=20 card
>2-  unplug power supply to repeater
>3-  = insert=20 flash card
>4-  power up repeater
>5-  use tempo = knob to=20 select RBS_P16 -  press record to install
>7-  see a = message=20 to "cycle power"
>8-  unplug power supply to=20 repeater
>9-  power up repeater
>10- use tempo knob = to select=20 Sys2-10
>11 -press record to install Sys2-10
>12- repeater = boots=20 up with new sys2!
>
>Sylvain
>
>
>On = Sat, Jul=20 11, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Jean Philippe<jp.rykiel@orange.fr>=20 wrote:
>> Hi, me again.
>> If someone could give me = detailed=20 instructions about reinstalling the
>> repeater software, = that would=20 be very kind because I lost them. The software
>> itself = contains=20 several files and I remember that they had to be installed
>> = in a=20 specific order, but no idea which.
>> Thanks for your=20 help.
>> Cheers,
>> JPR
>> http://myspace.com/jeanphil= ipperykiel
>>
>>=20 ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jean = Philippe
>> To:=20 Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
>>=20 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: What = happened=20 to my repeater ? !
>> Dear Fro,
>> I'm very glad to = hear=20 that you liked my music. It's very encouraging because
>> = it's the=20 kind of music that doesn't sell these days since it's a little = too
>>=20 far from what people call electronic music.
>> Thanks=20 again.
>> Back to the subject, do you think there is a = replacement=20 unit for the
>> repeater if I cannot get it to work properly. = I=20 thought of the RC 50 but it
>> doesn't look as = straightforward as the=20 repeater was. Yet it's the only
>> multitrack hardware loop = machine I=20 know of.
>> Of course, I would love to go Ableton but it's = yet=20 impossible for visually
>> impaired users.
>>=20 Cheers,
>> JPR
>> http://myspace.com/jeanphil= ipperykiel
>>
>>=20 ----- Original Message -----
>> From: FRO DIDDLY
>> = To: loopers-delight@looper= s-delight.com
>>=20 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:10 AM
>> Subject: RE: What = happened=20 to my repeater ? !
>> i owned 4 of those darn things once = upon a time=20 and for the life of me i
>> cant remember if you can reset to = factory=20 defaults-
>> just read through the booklet, i dont think its=20= possible-
>> ild say switch out all cables involved and if = that=20 doesnt work, re-install
>> the operating=20 system
>>
>> probably didnt help ya at all, but the=20= important thing is that you just
>> earned a fan for=20 life-
>> im a first time listener, and am completely = captivated by=20 the intricacy of
>> your music
>>
>>=20 salut!
>>
>>=20 = fro
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>= ;
>>=20 ________________________________
>> From: jp.rykiel@orange.fr
>>= ; To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
>>=20 Subject: What happened to my repeater ? !
>> Date: Sat, 11 = Jul 2009=20 10:41:11 +0200
>>
>> Hi there,
>> I hadn't = used my=20 repeater for a bit, and it's acting weird now.
>> When = overdubbing ,=20 what I just played comes out with a small but very
>> = noticeable=20 delay against what was previously on the track, I would say = about
>>=20 30 ms. I have software 2.1, and unpowering the machine doesn't do any=20= good.
>> I don't even know if there is a way to reset it=20 completely.
>> Since the Electrix site and forum are closed, = you're=20 my only hope.
>> Thanks for your help,
>>=20 Cheers,
>> JPR
>> http://myspace.com/jeanphil= ipperykiel
>>
>>=20 ________________________________
>> Windows Live=E2=84=A2: = Keep your life in=20 sync. Check it out.
>
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= --Boundary_(ID_wufTv7So0ZjyNNBk7VK8ow)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 01:58:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 140223BE7C; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArEEAP8xWkpMRBGg/2dsb2JhbACDLDyMIblfCYQABQ X-Vipre-Scanned: 0035D3A800147E0035D4F5-TDI Reply-To: From: "PiNG" To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , "Dark Seeds" , "Drone Deep Chill" , "Loopers Delight" , "The Ambient Way" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?07.14.09_=3E_The_PiNG_presents_Kinder_Atom_and_Syn=FE?= Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:57:55 -0400 Organization: THE AMBiENT PiNG Message-ID: <000501ca035d$57129d40$a27ba8c0@dream> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:58:02 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . TUESDAY JULY 14TH . THE AMBiENT PiNG presents STORMiNG THE BASTiLLE featuring Kinder Atom and Syn=FE @ The Central . 603 Markham St . 1 block west of Bathurst & Bloor Map, info and directions at: http://www.thecentral.ca/info.php PiNG doors open at 8pm . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 . KINDER ATOM . Since 1993, KINDER ATOM have been one of few groups in the electronic music scene defining their own unique sound within many spectrums. Their warm organic flavours return to the PiNG to tempt your senses and soothe your soul as their deep electro, funky, dreamy and gentle ambient sounds fill your ears. http://www.kinderatom.com . SYN=DE . Live, solo percussion with a backdrop of electronic and environmental soundscapes. SYN=DE will feature a suite of eight short electroacoustic pieces that use an exotic collection of percussion instruments and handmade digital tracks: 1. Synpship Launch - Introducing the thorn's vibratory experimental plan. 2. Sophie Was Here - Feline-inspired soundscape from a day in September 2008. 3. Vibix - Live interaction with bowed vibraphone loops. 4. Vitamin BX20 - Classic reverb with bell sound decays. 5. La Bastille - Solo electric violin replicated to orchestral dimensions. 6. Cicada Dads - Insect vibrations with mikrophonic enhancements. 7. Jeju 6:57 a.m. - Return to the waterworld at sunrise. 8. Synpship Re-entry. http://www.indie-ideas.ca/home/synp.html . GENERAL CHAOS VISUALS . Throughout the evening, the unique evolving light paintings of General Chaos Visuals will provide us with mesmerizing eye candy projected onto a live canvas. http://www.generalchaosvisuals.com . Between Sets CDs - Piano Text + At The End Of Time Originally released in 1994, "Piano Text" by Aloof Proof (Mikel AP) has achieved a kind of cult status and was happily re-released recently by Infraction Records. Robert Fripp has released ambient albums going back in time even further - but "At The End Of Time - Churchscapes" was actually recorded live in churches in England and Estonia in 2006 and released in 2007. http://www.aloofproof.com http://www.dgmlive.com/rf/ To open the night we'll be playing music by the duo celer in honour of Dani Baquet-Long, who passed away this week at the young age of 26. http://artificialcolors.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/celersite . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG iN AUGUST 08.18.09 . DECADE! . THE PiNG's 10th ANNiVERSARY featuring WALLY JERICHO, dreamSTATE and KALTE Tues. Aug. 18th @ The Supermarket . 268 Augusta Ave . 8PM more details soon @ http://www.theambientping.com http://www.wallyjericho.com http://www.dreamSTATE.to http://www.kaltemusic.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Looking for something to plug into, then check out the free downloadable net label releases from ping things: . subduction current (iNTHiSHOUSE) . Spatial Correlation (Les Landes) . Phil Ogison (The Perfect City) . Andrew Duke (Aqua) . Nunc Stans (Land) . Ortiz (Where did we come from defcon?) . mara's torment (tactile) . Building Castles Out of Matchsticks (October Sky) . Remora (Ensoulment) . Panoramaroid (Music for Travellers #2) . mara's torment (fluctuations) . Spatial Correlation (Love and the Fear of Poverty) . Reinholt56 (Mechanism of the Soul) All releases are available as free downloadable Zip files containing the full release in high quality 256kbps mp3 format along with artwork suitable for printing. The music on these releases is copyright controlled by the original rights holders and may not be used or reproduced without the artists' express permission. http://www.pingthings.com/PTlabel.htm http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Also check out the ALMOST LiVE SERiES sets by Numina, MWVM, NAW, Panoramaroid, Remora, Resonant Drift, Salvagesound and URM archived and downloadable at: http://www.ambientpingradio.blogspot.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, space, drone, psychedelic, chillout, downtempo, darkwave and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com ViSiT ping things for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 02:05:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01C313BE81; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:05:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A5A9667.7060207@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:05:27 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Beautiful looping video with audio by David Cooper Orton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:05:36 +0000 (UTC) I don't know if this has already been shared with people but I was just knocked out by the quiet beauty of this work on youtube by David Cooper Orton that he just posted. Melding still images with occasional repeating visual video patterns and a gorgeous, zen minimalistic, harmonic laden guitar soundtrack, this was the most beautiful thing I've seen or heard in a good while. Nice work, David! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToLtAj5ORL4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Efacebook%2Ecom%2Fhome%2Ephp%3F&feature=player_embedded From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 02:22:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C8753BE6F; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=J5vTAvXOP7LnEqVfPB3RXHLqBow/qqmG/U8dkYB0YP0=; b=Hxd4EYIcKrik9i9Xuf0jDNntjlF7CePj27xfXfsqd/0Q4VCvyCPprcRDYSTQy4RKeo 2i9ddpSUM3W4OL4syjN6eix7EtTI32Wrq3bcQFgx9p7ZRtXZ6BsaQXn2HU1rPalH/osu JG+c0AtOeERM2ZU2Fboi25mhtuEmWjbnZt0Zc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VxSj6m8Y2f6CkAtWAxauHPJVynKBFPHF15A68ea5dtZ0dzWpQSFwLwzNiCBTz8RvhU F9mSYn3PRrEpnbc+Z7JNaDcns9bQtjPiWmqRuCw7PvIyjkCctbBvXg3/u3Tcl7WT9LaC OijIy156VF1Exi/+OLBpOzuuZrfo3fXqBStp4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:22:05 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907121922n126d53b7x967d4b115d6001c0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: couch-surfage in Brooklyn or Albany? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7o8mID.A.WeG.OppWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:22:07 +0000 (UTC) Matt hey. Daryl mentioned your need to me this weekend. I'm in Park Slope in Brooklyn and invite you to to stay at my place. We're conveniently located on the F line which is good train to get near Norio. Daryl and I are doing a chinapainting show at norio the sunday before you. Jim On 7/12/09, Matt Davignon wrote: > Hi all, > > On two of my tour nights, Saturday 7/25 in Albany (NY) and Sunday 7/26 > in Brooklyn, I don't yet have a place to sleep. I could reserve a > hotel room, but that kind of defeats the point of going on tour and > meeting people. Would anyone be interested in letting me sleep on > their couch? I could certainly get you into the show for free, shower > you with some free cds (figuratively), and if you're available, take > you out to breakfast the next morning. > > I'm just 1 person, pet friendly, won't make a mess. In both cases, > it'd just be one night, since I need to run off somewhere else the > next day. > > Please let me know! > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 03:55:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A80B43BE78; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <43337BE7-024F-4389-8B0E-BC7AF67A28D6@glasswing.com> From: richard sales To: rune_fagereng@yahoo.no In-Reply-To: <880814.57940.qm@web23808.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-714645636 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT - missing the third dimmension - not enough dsp power Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:55:01 -0700 References: <880814.57940.qm@web23808.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:55:04 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-714645636 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 3 D seems to be the big current buzzword among studio geeks these =20 days. I first heard it from Gavin Lurssen, 3 time Grammy winner who =20 mastered the last Hayley Sales record (07). At the time, he said, "I =20= don't know how they do it (he was being deferential) but I think it's =20= by running out from digital to analogue and then back in." My =20 paraphrase. So as part of this studio revamp I got a Dangerous 2 Bus =20= summing mixer and a bunch of other Dangerous stuff to go 'out and =20 in'. Great company, great stuff. Am I getting the 3D yet? It's =20 definitely WAY massively improved, I can't say that enough... but I'm =20= still doing the mixes so can't comment yet. But I'm quite excited by =20= what I'm hearing. Have had the new setup running for about 4 months =20 and it's SO MUCH EASIER to get THAT sound. DEFINITELY better converters is an incredible improvement. At first I =20= got the Digidesign 192 which is good enough - way better than what I =20 had before. I shopped for more analogue I/O and was going to buy =20 another Digi I/O but ended up - after much study and consulting =20 various sound sages - getting an AUrora Lynx VT. 16 analogue in and =20 out and it sounds really great. I highly recommend the Aurora Lynx =20 stuff. A little more klugey to set up than the DIGI stuff but well =20 worth the effort. And their tech support is stellar. You probably =20 don't need the VT model unless you want to calibrate the I/O. I've heard (thru very reliable sources) the APogee, through a flaw in =20= its design, puts DC offset in the signal. I also heard from a very =20 well known guitar maker who's ears I really respect that he ran deep =20 tests on all the I/O systems and that Apogee was not good at all. Of =20= course, great records are made on APogee converters, Digi converters, =20= Mytek, Prizm, Weiss... all of them. So much of it is ears and good =20 old hard work. I did work on some stuff that was done on a MOTU Traveler that I =20 thought was good. They had used a bunch of Earthworks mics that =20 sounded surprisingly good! In general, samples themselves can be sort of flat - especially older =20= samples. So your samples have to be the highest quality you can =20 find. This is IF you're trying to make an organic, real sounding =20 record. That's my obsession. If it's techno, then that's another =20 story. Nothing beats a really good drummer with really good mics and =20= mic pre's. It just sounds better from the get go. A great clock is a big help. I use an Apogee Big Ben. The Antelope =20 is reputedly better. Sony Oxford should be good. I love the WAVES SSL plug ins. Haven't =20 used the Oxford stuff yet, but I hear really good things about it. =20 It's all so expensive - esp as TDM plugs.. You know, you might consider taking some of your work as separate =20 channels to a really good studio (that has achieved the 3D sound =20 you're thinking of) and mix one song. See if it happens! I personally think a lot of the 3D thing is the mix itself, how the =20 eq's all work together to make parts sort of stand out (or recede) on =20= their own. ANd then the arrangement of the music. When it's thick, =20 it's harder in every dimension! In the old days we believed reverb was the key to depth dimension. =20 But reverb's sort of lost some luster in recent years, at least in the =20= kind of stuff I'm doing now, so we've gotta get that mysterious 3D =20 element through mixing, eq etc. I know you know too much compression could flatten the Alps. I =20 personally like slower attacks so the transients pop out. Personally, I've loved the things I've heard from you, Rune. Great =20 player, great ideas, hard working guy, obviously. I hope what I've said hasn't been irrelevant or stupid. Richard richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On Jul 12, 2009, at 3:52 AM, rune_fagereng@yahoo.no wrote: > > Hi ! > > The music I make misses depth - or the third dimmension - so I use =20 > delay and reverbs to make this dimmension - but I am not happy with =20= > the sound I get and I dont have enough power to use the pluins like =20= > I wishes. > > 1. Is my AD-DA converters (Motu Traveler) not good enough? Would I =20 > get a better third dimmention just by switching to Agogee (16x AD-DA =20= > with big ben word clock). Many producers likes this better then Pro =20= > Tools converters (Behind the Glasses - Massey). Any thoughts on =20 > converters? > > 2. I Is my plugins inferior (Abletons and Sony Oxford)? The lack of =20= > power essential ? Or is hardware a must? > > 3. I lack the power to use my plugins like I wishes. Any thoughts on =20= > how to get this without buying a new computer? Is Tc power core a =20 > good solution? and can I use Tc powercore (firewire) together with =20= > Apogee Symphony Mobile (expresscard connection)? > > Am I fooled by commersals or would buying Apogee Symphony converters =20= > and Tc power core get me the third dimmension, by getting good =20 > converters and enough dsp power for my plugins? > > best regards Rune Fagereng > > > > > > > > Alt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og = notisblokk. --Apple-Mail-1-714645636 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 3 D seems to be the big current = buzzword among studio geeks these days.  I first heard it from = Gavin Lurssen, 3 time Grammy winner who mastered the last Hayley Sales = record (07).  At the time, he said, "I don't know how they do it = (he was being deferential) but I think it's by running out from digital = to analogue and then back in."  My paraphrase.  So as part of = this studio revamp I got a Dangerous 2 Bus summing mixer and a bunch of = other Dangerous stuff to go 'out and in'.  Great company, great = stuff.  Am I getting the 3D yet?  It's definitely WAY = massively improved, I can't say that enough... but I'm still doing the = mixes so can't comment yet.  But I'm quite excited by what I'm = hearing.  Have had the new setup running for about 4 months and = it's SO MUCH EASIER to get THAT sound.  

DEFINITELY = better converters is an incredible improvement.  At first I got the = Digidesign 192 which is good enough - way better than what I had before. =  I shopped for more analogue I/O and was going to buy another Digi = I/O but ended up - after much study and consulting various sound sages - = getting an AUrora Lynx VT.  16 analogue in and out and it sounds = really great.  I highly recommend the Aurora Lynx stuff.  A = little more klugey to set up than the DIGI stuff but well worth the = effort.  And their tech support is stellar.  You probably = don't need the VT model unless you want to calibrate the = I/O.

I've heard (thru very reliable sources) the = APogee, through a flaw in its design, puts DC offset in the signal. =  I also heard from a very well known guitar maker who's ears I = really respect that he ran deep tests on all the I/O systems and that = Apogee was not good at all.  Of course, great records are made on = APogee converters, Digi converters, Mytek, Prizm, Weiss... all of them. =  So much of it is ears and good old hard work. =  

I did work on some stuff that was done = on a MOTU Traveler that I thought was good.  They had used a bunch = of Earthworks mics that sounded surprisingly = good!

In general, samples themselves can be = sort of flat - especially older samples.  So your samples have to = be the highest quality you can find.  This is IF you're trying to = make an organic, real sounding record.  That's my obsession. If = it's techno, then that's another story.  Nothing beats a really = good drummer with really good mics and mic pre's.  It just sounds = better from the get go.

A great clock is a big = help.  I use = an Apogee Big Ben.  The Antelope is&nbs= p;reputedly better.  

Sony Ox= ford should be good.  I love the W= AVES SSL plug ins.  Haven't used the Oxford = stuff yet, but I hear really good things about it.  It's all so = expensive - esp as TDM plugs.. 

You know, = you might consider taking some of your work as separate channels to a = really good studio (that has achieved the 3D sound you're thinking of) = and mix one song.  See if it happens!

I = personally think a lot of the 3D thing is the mix itself, how the eq's = all work together to make parts sort of stand out (or recede) on their = own.  ANd then the arrangement of the music.  When it's thick, = it's harder in every dimension!

In the old days = we believed reverb was the key to depth dimension.  But reverb's = sort of lost some luster in recent years, at least in the kind of stuff = I'm doing now, so we've gotta get that mysterious 3D element through = mixing, eq etc. 

I know you know too much = compression could flatten the Alps.  I personally like slower = attacks so the transients pop out. =  

Personally, I've loved the things I've = heard from you, Rune.  Great player, great ideas, hard working guy, = obviously. 

I hope what I've said hasn't = been irrelevant or stupid. =  

Richard

richard = sales
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On Jul 12, 2009, at 3:52 AM, rune_fagereng@yahoo.no = wrote:

Alt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk.
Hi !

The music I make misses depth - or the third = dimmension - so I use delay and reverbs to make this dimmension - but I = am not happy with the sound I get and I dont have enough power to use = the pluins like I wishes.  

1. Is my AD-DA converters (Motu Traveler) = not good enough? Would I get a better third dimmention just by switching = to Agogee (16x AD-DA with big ben word clock). Many producers likes this = better then Pro Tools converters (Behind the Glasses - Massey). Any = thoughts on converters?
 
2. I Is my = plugins inferior (Abletons and Sony Oxford)? The lack of power essential = ? Or is hardware a must? 

3. I lack the power to use my plugins like I = wishes. Any thoughts on how to get this without buying a new computer? = Is Tc power core a good solution? and can I use Tc powercore =  (firewire) together with Apogee Symphony Mobile (expresscard = connection)?     

Am I fooled by commersals or would buying = Apogee Symphony converters and Tc power core get me the third = dimmension, by getting good converters and enough dsp power for my = plugins? 

best regards Rune = Fagereng
 
 
 

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= --Apple-Mail-1-714645636-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 05:37:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E08FD3BE73; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:37:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:cc; bh=reanK057+r2fwPliwBrtpPgVLrB1bLDTL0G8JH0ZIKg=; b=OH4lvae1vjRbehmD7qZ6iyUuhZE8WNsRp9g5kFLhaSHFlO2WIvhtHmvgeL+cOwZc+U +rOKvsKC4dqff5oJm8FtrElhcc0yibYikdcMpfzhggQy2cMRmJV20liI+wBwcnugJFIe YOsZKki3CWuriMNt3blIb9LGWjFfWkALcafS0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date:cc; b=HoXJ4tarkkqx8KeyaiLmNFHxTwWrpesjSYPKqoA5YPv6TNiqcVZhVPprGk3fOHzdQu 3/ro9scsRTOZGLaj1QRhg/1zHO28F1mcbQuDM9ZnpVU4oE0CeiJeTrv78TZSUGnaOkEI B1HGnT4Asug2RQAdtUhCHxw7RdQlASu5CTp+8= References: <880814.57940.qm@web23808.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <43337BE7-024F-4389-8B0E-BC7AF67A28D6@glasswing.com> Message-Id: <61B29D4A-CB5B-4102-B40E-74DBB21AD941@gmail.com> From: Miles Ward To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <43337BE7-024F-4389-8B0E-BC7AF67A28D6@glasswing.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-17-720764605 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A341) Subject: Re: OT - missing the third dimmension - not enough dsp power Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:36:59 -0700 Cc: "rune_fagereng@yahoo.no" , "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:37:10 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-17-720764605 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For more plugin horsepower I've seen lots of muse interceptors =20 lately.. Sweet setup, just a dedicated vst processor box, and no =20 lockin like tdm or powercore.. Miles On Jul 12, 2009, at 8:55 PM, richard sales =20 wrote: > 3 D seems to be the big current buzzword among studio geeks these =20 > days. I first heard it from Gavin Lurssen, 3 time Grammy winner who =20= > mastered the last Hayley Sales record (07). At the time, he said, =20 > "I don't know how they do it (he was being deferential) but I think =20= > it's by running out from digital to analogue and then back in." My =20= > paraphrase. So as part of this studio revamp I got a Dangerous 2 =20 > Bus summing mixer and a bunch of other Dangerous stuff to go 'out =20 > and in'. Great company, great stuff. Am I getting the 3D yet? =20 > It's definitely WAY massively improved, I can't say that enough... =20 > but I'm still doing the mixes so can't comment yet. But I'm quite =20 > excited by what I'm hearing. Have had the new setup running for =20 > about 4 months and it's SO MUCH EASIER to get THAT sound. > > DEFINITELY better converters is an incredible improvement. At first =20= > I got the Digidesign 192 which is good enough - way better than what =20= > I had before. I shopped for more analogue I/O and was going to buy =20= > another Digi I/O but ended up - after much study and consulting =20 > various sound sages - getting an AUrora Lynx VT. 16 analogue in and =20= > out and it sounds really great. I highly recommend the Aurora Lynx =20= > stuff. A little more klugey to set up than the DIGI stuff but well =20= > worth the effort. And their tech support is stellar. You probably =20= > don't need the VT model unless you want to calibrate the I/O. > > I've heard (thru very reliable sources) the APogee, through a flaw =20 > in its design, puts DC offset in the signal. I also heard from a =20 > very well known guitar maker who's ears I really respect that he ran =20= > deep tests on all the I/O systems and that Apogee was not good at =20 > all. Of course, great records are made on APogee converters, Digi =20 > converters, Mytek, Prizm, Weiss... all of them. So much of it is =20 > ears and good old hard work. > > I did work on some stuff that was done on a MOTU Traveler that I =20 > thought was good. They had used a bunch of Earthworks mics that =20 > sounded surprisingly good! > > In general, samples themselves can be sort of flat - especially =20 > older samples. So your samples have to be the highest quality you =20 > can find. This is IF you're trying to make an organic, real =20 > sounding record. That's my obsession. If it's techno, then that's =20 > another story. Nothing beats a really good drummer with really good =20= > mics and mic pre's. It just sounds better from the get go. > > A great clock is a big help. I use an Apogee Big Ben. The Antelope =20= > is reputedly better. > > Sony Oxford should be good. I love the WAVES SSL plug ins. Haven't =20= > used the Oxford stuff yet, but I hear really good things about it. =20= > It's all so expensive - esp as TDM plugs.. > > You know, you might consider taking some of your work as separate =20 > channels to a really good studio (that has achieved the 3D sound =20 > you're thinking of) and mix one song. See if it happens! > > I personally think a lot of the 3D thing is the mix itself, how the =20= > eq's all work together to make parts sort of stand out (or recede) =20 > on their own. ANd then the arrangement of the music. When it's =20 > thick, it's harder in every dimension! > > In the old days we believed reverb was the key to depth dimension. =20= > But reverb's sort of lost some luster in recent years, at least in =20 > the kind of stuff I'm doing now, so we've gotta get that mysterious =20= > 3D element through mixing, eq etc. > > I know you know too much compression could flatten the Alps. I =20 > personally like slower attacks so the transients pop out. > > Personally, I've loved the things I've heard from you, Rune. Great =20= > player, great ideas, hard working guy, obviously. > > I hope what I've said hasn't been irrelevant or stupid. > > Richard > > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > > > On Jul 12, 2009, at 3:52 AM, rune_fagereng@yahoo.no wrote: > >> >> Hi ! >> >> The music I make misses depth - or the third dimmension - so I use =20= >> delay and reverbs to make this dimmension - but I am not happy with =20= >> the sound I get and I dont have enough power to use the pluins like =20= >> I wishes. >> >> 1. Is my AD-DA converters (Motu Traveler) not good enough? Would I =20= >> get a better third dimmention just by switching to Agogee (16x AD-=20 >> DA with big ben word clock). Many producers likes this better then =20= >> Pro Tools converters (Behind the Glasses - Massey). Any thoughts on =20= >> converters? >> >> 2. I Is my plugins inferior (Abletons and Sony Oxford)? The lack of =20= >> power essential ? Or is hardware a must? >> >> 3. I lack the power to use my plugins like I wishes. Any thoughts =20 >> on how to get this without buying a new computer? Is Tc power core =20= >> a good solution? and can I use Tc powercore (firewire) together =20 >> with Apogee Symphony Mobile (expresscard connection)? >> >> Am I fooled by commersals or would buying Apogee Symphony =20 >> converters and Tc power core get me the third dimmension, by =20 >> getting good converters and enough dsp power for my plugins? >> >> best regards Rune Fagereng >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Alt i ett. F=C3=A5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og = notisbl=20 >> okk. > > > > > > > > --Apple-Mail-17-720764605 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For more plugin horsepower I've = seen lots of muse interceptors lately.. Sweet setup, just a dedicated = vst processor box, and no lockin like tdm or = powercore..

Miles

On Jul 12, 2009, at 8:55 PM, = richard sales <richard@glasswing.com> = wrote:

3 D seems = to be the big current buzzword among studio geeks these days.  I = first heard it from Gavin Lurssen, 3 time Grammy winner who mastered the = last Hayley Sales record (07).  At the time, he said, "I don't know = how they do it (he was being deferential) but I think it's by running = out from digital to analogue and then back in."  My paraphrase. =  So as part of this studio revamp I got a Dangerous 2 Bus summing = mixer and a bunch of other Dangerous stuff to go 'out and in'. =  Great company, great stuff.  Am I getting the 3D yet? =  It's definitely WAY massively improved, I can't say that enough... = but I'm still doing the mixes so can't comment yet.  But I'm quite = excited by what I'm hearing.  Have had the new setup running for = about 4 months and it's SO MUCH EASIER to get THAT sound. =  

DEFINITELY better converters is an incredible = improvement.  At first I got the Digidesign 192 which is good = enough - way better than what I had before.  I shopped for more = analogue I/O and was going to buy another Digi I/O but ended up - after = much study and consulting various sound sages - getting an AUrora Lynx = VT.  16 analogue in and out and it sounds really great.  I = highly recommend the Aurora Lynx stuff.  A little more klugey to = set up than the DIGI stuff but well worth the effort.  And their = tech support is stellar.  You probably don't need the VT model = unless you want to calibrate the I/O.

I've heard = (thru very reliable sources) the APogee, through a flaw in its design, = puts DC offset in the signal.  I also heard from a very well known = guitar maker who's ears I really respect that he ran deep tests on all = the I/O systems and that Apogee was not good at all.  Of course, = great records are made on APogee converters, Digi converters, Mytek, = Prizm, Weiss... all of them.  So much of it is ears and good old = hard work.  

I did work on some stuff that = was done on a MOTU Traveler that I thought was good.  They had used = a bunch of Earthworks mics that sounded surprisingly = good!

In general, samples themselves can be = sort of flat - especially older samples.  So your samples have to = be the highest quality you can find.  This is IF you're trying to = make an organic, real sounding record.  That's my obsession. If = it's techno, then that's another story.  Nothing beats a really = good drummer with really good mics and mic pre's.  It just sounds = better from the get go.

A great clock is a big = help.  I use = an Apogee Big Ben.  The Antelope is&nbs= p;reputedly better.  

Sony Ox= ford should be good.  I love the W= AVES SSL plug ins.  Haven't used the Oxford = stuff yet, but I hear really good things about it.  It's all so = expensive - esp as TDM plugs.. 

You know, = you might consider taking some of your work as separate channels to a = really good studio (that has achieved the 3D sound you're thinking of) = and mix one song.  See if it happens!

I = personally think a lot of the 3D thing is the mix itself, how the eq's = all work together to make parts sort of stand out (or recede) on their = own.  ANd then the arrangement of the music.  When it's thick, = it's harder in every dimension!

In the old days = we believed reverb was the key to depth dimension.  But reverb's = sort of lost some luster in recent years, at least in the kind of stuff = I'm doing now, so we've gotta get that mysterious 3D element through = mixing, eq etc. 

I know you know too much = compression could flatten the Alps.  I personally like slower = attacks so the transients pop out. =  

Personally, I've loved the things I've = heard from you, Rune.  Great player, great ideas, hard working guy, = obviously. 

I hope what I've said hasn't = been irrelevant or stupid. =  

Richard

richard = sales
www.richardsales.com
www.hayleysales.com


On Jul 12, 2009, at 3:52 AM, = rune_fagereng@yahoo.no = wrote:

Hi !

The music I make misses depth - or the third = dimmension - so I use delay and reverbs to make this dimmension - but I = am not happy with the sound I get and I dont have enough power to use = the pluins like I wishes.  

1. Is my AD-DA converters (Motu Traveler) = not good enough? Would I get a better third dimmention just by switching = to Agogee (16x AD-DA with big ben word clock). Many producers likes this = better then Pro Tools converters (Behind the Glasses - Massey). Any = thoughts on converters?
 
2. I Is my = plugins inferior (Abletons and Sony Oxford)? The lack of power essential = ? Or is hardware a must? 

3. I lack the power to use my plugins like I = wishes. Any thoughts on how to get this without buying a new computer? = Is Tc power core a good solution? and can I use Tc powercore =  (firewire) together with Apogee Symphony Mobile (expresscard = connection)?     

Am I fooled by commersals or would buying = Apogee Symphony converters and Tc power core get me the third = dimmension, by getting good converters and enough dsp power for my = plugins? 

best regards Rune = Fagereng
 
 
 

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= --Apple-Mail-17-720764605-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 08:29:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DA623BE79; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1247473781; l=4485; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:References:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=jDghZEuIJ5iRmAeT6WcN1r3JOGU=; b=sQVscEc7G+Kr4G0ej7LS15Xg2u/C9DCeQGciGleSOJ9DZGRV2bUYknPsI6iErUF06NV /ronRAe3lDN3QtUaBiM3M2RDc6Vj1HyNF05g6rscIdH9OuUXqensrjnnr+U3zzRpisyvM jyiKt9ZBwuRLdGIOM7vqzHPkx5swNUGke5Y= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <010701ca0394$87c099b0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: "Loopers-Delight" References: Subject: Re: RC50 Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:32:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00FF_01CA03A5.457A98B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:29:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00FF_01CA03A5.457A98B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi JPR, shortly said: the RC 50 is great.(Using it for some years now). It has a = lot of useful functions. Only thing I can complain about is the sound. You can hear a difference if you go direct in the amp or through the RC 50. But it=B4s worth the compromise you have to make between all these fine loop functions and the sound. It=B4s not bad, but Roland could have done better with this, you know... ? You can help yourself with this problem with an AB Box or so. If you = don=B4t loop you can play directly through the amp. Best, Christo www.christojota.de ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jean Philippe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:15 PM Subject: RC50 Hi there, I was eventually thinking of replacing my repeater with the Roland RC = 50. I guess this piece of gear has been discussed on the list quite a = few times, but looking through the archives is a bit of a pain. Can = someone tell me how good or bad this thing is versus the repeater? Thanks for your help. Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ------=_NextPart_000_00FF_01CA03A5.457A98B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi JPR,
shortly said: the RC 50 is great.(Using = it for some=20 years now). It has a lot of useful functions. Only thing I = can
complain about is the sound. You can = hear a=20 difference if
you go direct in the amp or through the = RC=20 50.
But it=B4s worth the compromise you = have to make=20 between
all these fine loop functions and the = sound. It=B4s=20 not bad,
but Roland could have done better with = this, you=20 know... ?
You can help yourself with this problem = with an AB=20 Box or so. If you don=B4t loop
you can play directly through the = amp.
Best,
Christo
www.christojota.de
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jean=20 Philippe
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 = 12:15=20 PM
Subject: RC50

Hi there,
I was eventually = thinking of=20 replacing my repeater with the Roland RC 50. I guess this piece of = gear has=20 been discussed on the list quite a few times, but looking through the = archives=20 is a bit of a pain. Can someone tell me how good or bad this thing is = versus=20 the repeater?
Thanks for your=20 help.
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
------=_NextPart_000_00FF_01CA03A5.457A98B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 09:19:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD1D73BE79; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hU73aYysy81OVRck5rIe0IsOWvG0/y2UoTTMwPVa708=; b=X9iV6pWLZGU3PB0p80Na+ZsVcsuw4EbtnwDHmqmGSodNTntN7iriXBB/HwxQhmo4Cn JRvPy5Zat/upVX+rbnpYRFpzu/tSLkWycy4onX8OwdrW5crviAwBPBL+J7kRBiMsTB4U LXJI6pPFt7h2S63OgM0cZZiyqOQsUjGZgKp/0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=LWyDOGfiz9vbexgglbTik8qalevrc26JrFTy7phdTnXk+LHoHP0kamG7i97/GrLaNz Ni5pHtiH57VnfZkgzPcyYw2khQw4SXAWEFZQMdQcWnpvSmcnQg/iwPnTqPiGJkJOgQ8x PA0PS/SMG3XW3dUVJsd77URZe9RC/GMxLIras= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:19:22 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907130219l21ef3e15vad748fea38c8f256@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT - missing the third dimmension - not enough dsp power From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Rune, from your post, it isn't entirely clear what you're after: "The music I make misses depth - or the third dimmension - so I use delay and reverbs to make this dimmension - but I am not happy with the sound I get and I dont have enough power to use the pluins like I wishes. " Pointing out what you mean by "depth or the third dimension" would help - as it would if you explain what your recording process is (i.e. live instruments vs. synths, dry room vs. live room etc.). A few ideas that come to mind: 1. "depth" could not be an issue with percieved geometrical space captured in the recordings, but with the dynamic range of the signal. I just downloaded your piece "Swell" from you website and had a look at it: during the main part of the track (about 3.5 minutes into it), you have a peak-to-average ratio of roughly 6.5dB. With "It's Time to Leave", it's still below 10dB. As a rough guideline, for some good-sounding pop/rock/etc. stuff, 14dB are often quoted. By using such a compressed signal, you're basically taking out any percieved depth; it feels like the musicians (or virtual musicians) are standing right around you with their amps fully cranked an driving your hearing into saturation. While this may be the effect you're after in some cases, your wish for "depth" seems to tell me you're not. I believe that I already wrote about that here until my fingers got sore - if you're too lazy to find it, instead look at the articles at www.digido.com for a start. 2. Microphony, if you're using acoustic sources, can make a big difference. Try to experiment with different setups. For an almost surreal impression of space, a pair of spaced omni mikes as the stereo mikes can work wonders, especially in a proper room. Of course, you're ending up with that "hole in the middle" effect - but this hole can then conveniently be filled with some close-distance-microphone signals. E.g. when recording a trapset, put the drummer in a big room, place those spaced omnis far apart at some distance before the kit (or even put PZMs to the walls), then close-mike snare and bass drum (the latter one perhaps at some distance - 1m or so, using a large-diaphragm condenser), and add both close-mic-signals in the center spot. You can also combine different stereo miking techniques (e.g. spaced omnis behind the source, M/S in front of it) and then make the decisions during mixing. 3. Composition and arrangement: This is where it starts. If you're using an acoustic grand (either well-recorded or properly sampled/modeled), this is per se an instrument which has a lot of depth: big dynamic and frequency range, sharp transients together with fairly long sustain phase, and some geometrical spacing as well. So make use of it! Some instruments are unconsciously percieved as being "further behind" than others because of the way they sound - timpani, concert harps and french horns (not close-miked) come to mind - so use them cleverly. This is definitely a thread without end - I would recommend the "Instrumentationslehre" by Hector Berlioz as some further reading: http://www.archive.org/details/treatiseoninstru007485mbp/ 4. Pick out some albums where you like the depth (which again, could be anything, as I'm not entirely sure what you're after - perhaps "Ballad of the Fallen" by Charlie Haden and Carla Bley, or rather "Body and Soul" by Joe Jackson, or even "South of Heaven" by Slayer") and try to find out why they sound deeper. Do they have more dynamics? Do they make sure the high-frequency content doesn't get masked? Using lots of (natural or artifical) reverb? Or some very clever arrangement, alternately setting strings agains winds and then combining them? If you're able to track that down, then you're one step farther towards your goal - simply because you know which direction you have to head to. Yours, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 10:51:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D6423BE77; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 427 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:51:47 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=DCkn/tpv3Tmn0FMfKlCtGSMlGpnSf5rSy1ytBU3Ibtk=; b=LvdLktQAYdWCak7eK37HZQlVq2RcqIozy1UDvSuq4MlsLmm2zVqh/ulBgnY1K1+IJc NDfGCT/qQCFmyETORSTm7VusJvICVLlJURaQYhjLjD1K4eph3N6QccvHwLyj0nSFEd6q tn//rJogaCx2QqDx7or3+hm9kSp+0jog+gd3k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=R/DgFPIXzll1zgoYbbTaUWh/DWrt3OZo4wHmtEdNAkpe08fz4PbWH2bOA0iX4k1PQV ZGPiqinvP5jllxOaH4NHTNEtTCrAEiQ+ZBxb/u+DFFHJq8+4Y2O79Ei6+09ldL3QFC6O 1kpDPRfu/h0aHN5IvwD5Lx3Rc3w4OYq1Mw6vg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:44:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Live Looping Ensemble - Clips from the jam at the Florence Loopfest 2009 From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: liverani@het.it Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f631e64117ec046e940224 Resent-Message-ID: <49UO3D.A.WME.EHxWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:51:48 +0000 (UTC) --001485f631e64117ec046e940224 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I've just uploaded 3 improvised jam sessions from the Florence Loopfest. It was played as a "single act", but I've cut it in three parts which I hear like 3 different "pictures". The line up was composed by: - Rick Walker: found sound, percussions - Per Boysen: EWI - Sjaak Overgauuw: piano, synth - Fabio Anile: piano, synth, drum loops - Koan Loop Ensemble: -Massimo Liverani: theremin, air-synth, air-fx -Marco Canaccini: percussions -Massimo Fantoni; laptop (drum loops, samples) -Fabrizio Arrigo: piano -Fabio Capanni: el. guitar I want to expecially drive your attention to the "electric guitar solos"....they are all played by Per Boysen with his EWI (among the other incredible sounds he's good to get from his meta-instrument) You can listen in my podcast: www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/eterogeneo.xml or directly download at: www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/*Florence_03-06-09-Jam1.mp3 * www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/*Florence_03-06-09-Jam2.mp3 * www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/*Florence_03-06-09-Jam3.mp3 * Enjoy ! Fabio www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo --001485f631e64117ec046e940224 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
I've just uploaded 3= improvised jam sessions from the Florence Loopfest.
It was played as a "= ;single act", but I've cut it in three parts which I hear like=A03= different "pictures".
=A0
The line up was composed= by:
- Rick Walker: found sou= nd, percussions
- Per Boysen: EWI=
- Sjaak Overgauuw: piano= , synth
- Fabio Anile: piano, sy= nth, drum loops
- Koan Loop Ensemble:
=A0=A0=A0 -Massimo Liver= ani: theremin, air-synth, air-fx
=A0=A0=A0 -Marco Canacci= ni: percussions
=A0=A0=A0 -Massimo Fanto= ni; laptop (drum loops, samples)
=A0=A0=A0 -Fabrizio Arri= go: piano
=A0=A0=A0 -Fabio Capanni= : el. guitar
=A0
I want to expecially drive your attention to the=A0&q= uot;electric guitar solos"....they are all played by=A0Per Boysen with= his EWI (among the other incredible sounds he's good to get from his m= eta-instrument)
=A0
You can listen in my pod= cast:
=A0
or directly download at:=
=A0
Enjoy !
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--001485f631e64117ec046e940224-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 11:13:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F7FB3BE77; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:13:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Echoplex on German eBay Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:13:01 +0200 Message-ID: <008e01ca03aa$e2fbb1f0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcoDquJ9gP4RKotJQi+0KANBlIs0MA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:13:07 +0000 (UTC) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140332729759 (not mine, I just found it) -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 11:18:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABEB13BE79; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.no; s=s1024; t=1247483902; bh=79XLLcef7u/F4k8P/T5rRumAGROhrpPGltbIhUGgsTw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=brLf2qsgII3u48Oi+iK6xK8rVBs+J/obJQEIyrnGIA7kdFXITjk7NqD2AAKHEzrLjLOZRFc8k/XxnJxto5LySw3Tb0x0ZWA8IpP4Rqp7hXSTQ2Yevqccatpf3pFsrJPdnH5q6REqgG+NRtqGwfJopwiYl4gjU5vfJajsFv+wlz8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vBtCjI6i3KxzoGjgAH8aARm6Hnoe9Ugql31nKyafZFptbIJ0OWfTptZv5ctL6ek0sdvyIJCmL8cs21nh+GC/veSixiOKO9un+WAyTj9HE+QGFB5siZmRaxZ+05B6B1nzZoNM7UCvkEDOTtmtTNRLdcMTdE8NTVV4Fb9A99HtMaw=; Message-ID: <126820.96229.qm@web23808.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Rj8zTOMVM1loOHSpLsx0RifXHtK5TexsoxyyVapGyiU0jmk_no598SZEkKX9QCtA6b2jwzsBSr2fKfCwa2990OPIKSgH7E4d..VFOVJbLoECX3bra5vspBhpiH3ok9nB8l5vBoI.wb8sVQ3gzK6HoyV2EWMI2WlCOvqQIZfskvvjhwzj5CpWD0UEesfhw_cByXZubcYNnkP8.kqmyf.YnHMbT0cMN5fhQoHZNH._w9MChbEXQyLHyL4YgU_3VZ7_MaXRGKsB.HqhERepYPuSnTUvYK2DpFGeH.7N3sAeNMnEGo0vlnIOQqyJOWFr0QZQERBSqIu3T6A_crCCKYdXYxh.zvAfjGf0mocoKju2iu0F6O1RGpR1Es2uaqam X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:18:21 +0000 (GMT) From: rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Reply-To: rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Subject: Missing the third dimension (II) To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2036841726-1247483901=:96229" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:18:23 +0000 (UTC) --0-2036841726-1247483901=:96229 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi again ! I misses depth and three dimensions in my recording. I can get two dimensio= ns -=0A high and wide sounds - but its hard to get any kind of depth. My re= corded guitar or vocals often sounds flat and lifeless. So I take the flat = and lifeless=0A sounds (missing body) and put them in a room made up of a d= igital reverb. Its still flat and lifeless (without body) - but now in a "f= lat room" inside the=0A computer, in lack of a better explanation. This is = difficult to describe. Shoulden`t it be possible to make the singers head b= igger - like a real head was=0A singing to me, instead of this onedimension= al voice? In my one work I misses instruments/voices that almost popps out = of the speaker or that their in this nice ambient that glue it al together.= And because I read to many magazines on sound and commersials, I`ve come t= o think; I got to buy better; converters, word clock, reverb, delays, mics,= preamps etc. From your answers I understand this is a big topic.=A0 1. Stereo recording (micking)=A02. Better=0A converters3. External word=A0c= lock4. Arrangement5. Eq - panning -=0A masking6. Room acoustics7. Enough ds= p power (freeze ableton) 1. Stereomicking.The=0A thing that got me wandering about recording and the= lack of the third dimensions or depth, was that my liverecording with Edir= ol Field Recorder had a nice depth. A depth I often misses on my mac/motu r= ecordings. The fieldrecorder has a stereomic and the recordings I make with= it, has the sound of the liveroom. This recording technique is limiting - = its just one track.Like Straschill=0A writes, maybe stereo micking can get = me some of what I am missing.=A0 2. Better converters - external word clock.I read inBehind the Glass II=A0-= Howard Massey, that top producers uses a external word clock (Ricard Sales= also). Many uses Apogee Big=0A Ben, even Pro Tools users. This opens the m= ix and makes depth. Whats this?=A0 If one is using just one interface, is there a benefit of using external wo= rd clock or this a thing for studios with many interfaces and hardware unit= s?=A0 The latest Apogee 16x AD/DA interface has Big Ben word clock=0A build in. I= am thinking - maybe buying Apogee 16x AD/DA would get me what I misses, gr= eate converters and Big Ben word clock and open mixes with depth? Any thoug= hts? Sales, your not happy with Apogee, are you refering to Apogee 16x AD/DA or = earlier models? I read greate things about Apogee, but I will check out Lyn= x, like you recommanded.=A0 A silly question? When Big Ben is intergratet in Apogee 16x, is this a word= clock=0A good enough, or is external the key thing? Is the important thing= a great word clock, or is external important? 7. Freeze functions - Ableton (enough power for plugins - making depth).Boy= sen, is it possible to use freeze functions even when rendering the final= =0A mix? I have to admit - I have come to think I need to buy better reverb= unit then oxford plugins, maybe the tc 6000. Any thoughts? best regards Rune F. =A0 =A0=0A=0A=0A ________________________________= _________________________=0AAlt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek= , kalender og=0Anotisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com --0-2036841726-1247483901=:96229 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Hi again !
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I misses depth and three dimensions in my recording. I can get two= dimensions -=0A high and wide sounds - but its hard to get any kind of dep= th. My recorded guitar or vocals often sounds flat and lifeless. So I take = the flat and lifeless=0A sounds (missing body) and put them in a room made = up of a digital reverb. Its still flat and lifeless (without body) - but no= w in a "flat room" inside the=0A computer, in lack of a better explanation.= This is difficult to describe. Shoulden`t it be possible to make the singe= rs head bigger - like a real head was=0A singing to me, instead of this one= dimensional voice? In my one work I misses instruments/voices that almost p= opps out of the speaker or that their in this nice ambient that glue it al = together. And because I read to many magazines on sound and commersials, I`= ve come to think; I got to buy better; converters, word clock, reverb, dela= ys, mics, preamps etc. From your answers I understand this is a big topic.&= nbsp;

1. Stereo recording (mic= king) 
2. Better=0A converters
3. External word clock
4. Arrangement
5. Eq - panning -=0A masking
= 6. Room acousti= cs
7. Enough dsp power (freeze ableton)

1. Stereomicking.
The=0A thing that got= me wandering about recording and the lack of the third dimensions or depth= , was that my liverecording with Edirol Field Recorder had a nice depth. A = depth I often misses on my mac/motu recordings. The fieldrecorder has a ste= reomic and the recordings I make with it, has the sound of the liveroom. Th= is recording technique is limiting - its just one track.Like Straschill=0A = writes, maybe stereo micking can get me some of what I am missing. 

2. Better converters - external word clock.=
I read inBehind the Glass II&nb= sp;- Howard Massey, that top producers uses a external word clock (Ricard S= ales also). Many uses Apogee Big=0A Ben, even Pro Tools users. This opens t= he mix and makes depth. Whats this? 

If one is using just one interface, is there a benefit of using= external word clock or this a thing for studios with many interfaces and h= ardware units? 

The lates= t Apogee 16x AD/DA interface has Big Ben word clock=0A build in. I am think= ing - maybe buying Apogee 16x AD/DA would get me what I misses, greate conv= erters and Big Ben word clock and open mixes with depth? Any thoughts?

Sales, your not happy with Apogee,= are you refering to Apogee 16x AD/DA or earlier models? I read greate thin= gs about Apogee, but I will check out Lynx, like you recommanded. 

A silly question? When Big Ben is in= tergratet in Apogee 16x, is this a word clock=0A good enough, or is externa= l the key thing? Is the important thing a great word clock, or is external = important?

7. Freeze functions - Ableton (en= ough power for plugins - making depth).
Boysen, is it possible= to use freeze functions even when rendering the final=0A mix? I have to ad= mit - I have come to think I need to buy better reverb unit then oxford plu= gins, maybe the tc 6000. Any thoughts?

best regards Rune F.    

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Alt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk.
--0-2036841726-1247483901=:96229-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 11:28:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A234B3BE7C; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090713112803473.737CB7000048@mwinf2a04.orange.fr Message-ID: <8E9BA7AA28F9451D8987FA719E86D504@portable2jpr> From: "Jean Philippe" To: References: <008e01ca03aa$e2fbb1f0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: Echoplex on German eBay Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:28:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0056_01CA03BD.C1F03E50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:28:05 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01CA03BD.C1F03E50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is that good? JP http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Peters=20 To: Loopers Delight=20 Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: Echoplex on German eBay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D140332729759 (not mine, I just found it) -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01CA03BD.C1F03E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is that good?
JP
 
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Michael = Peters
To: Loopers = Delight
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 = 1:13 PM
Subject: Echoplex on German = eBay


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1403327297= 59

(not=20 mine, I just found = it)

-Michael


------=_NextPart_000_0056_01CA03BD.C1F03E50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 11:50:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 703E53BE79; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=STRTCCqs3loURphmT3SV3aCu+6/9qJRyed4heTtjgT0=; b=KN15uUZf6T/84EB52rS6/cNDkwpzSGTE0KRsJlh99dKefTDeL4rDJucEGBcLSAkKu9 ol5BdQWhVPMg+BAkc3locn3ukN/z3/jMBKRNmOmcRLvRF7Br/iu7uPX8BjRWZeYBSBnr ++b7iSGJ5BIDQ/sK7zA9lMNvGyWrnZNWEoyOY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=YBcs+djvKR3uCsW/XXpsm/93dj74csjnT1uIBvbmRl3o1C55slI7vgysMaH+mVVafA pcDY3KBkIu4BU6WMbqBPhfYJggwGNMgfzAkFdaQUOMn7ksbGWhiE+mMOHmZhOyrtAzs5 um27hFIdMwa7EP0PLeN7LfjvklylHEs6dtnrw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:50:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live Looping Ensemble - Clips from the jam at the Florence Loopfest 2009 From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f85ede8b3ed2046e94edc3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:50:28 +0000 (UTC) --001485f85ede8b3ed2046e94edc3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit third mp3 is the same as the first! > > or directly download at: > www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/*Florence_03-06-09-Jam1.mp3* > www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/*Florence_03-06-09-Jam2.mp3* > www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/*Florence_03-06-09-Jam3.mp3* > --001485f85ede8b3ed2046e94edc3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable third mp3 is the same as the first!
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--001485f85ede8b3ed2046e94edc3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 12:05:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B7093BE7C; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:05:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+rgBWubCw3p2++mNaQiEFsyhJuFgO1G0+4PHU4jnYvc=; b=S/V/vKTWLkU64P9mH24XpN7xW2PC+KcGrJmLOV2oal0xnAkrSMELmiNTWcQSpzyHxn uJrW/S3cC2m/DFl5LCJhLSB7jze2smlgAEU6wuf4bPQR7sQ47lEL9zijx5Pmu2Yr89e5 SCzNoQC8jBl2f/bovQieHKvj/KH82jvO2b/ME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ThB14jT6grWXyBU4Yn4td1BwNvf1IWKqUhEuuXbF/D3qNMjIA1XWur6BpAiRcxvQ// 9opWSPeSYo+aITAyGnmSf1O2lmUa11UzCNTD7Nf8hMiRSxZ2tf7OM+bLVBNEoPNViTZ2 YwcfyyFzimsVUrBLpjH3qZX4W9UKiqq6Cb60k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:05:01 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live Looping Ensemble - Clips from the jam at the Florence Loopfest 2009 From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f5ce28b88ea1046e9521fe Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:05:03 +0000 (UTC) --001485f5ce28b88ea1046e9521fe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are you sure ? I've just checked it and it doesn't seems as you say... Anyone ? fabio 2009/7/13 Simeon Harris > third mp3 is the same as the first! > > >> or directly download at: >> www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/*Florence_03-06-09-Jam1.mp3* >> www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/*Florence_03-06-09-Jam2.mp3* >> www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/*Florence_03-06-09-Jam3.mp3* >> > > --001485f5ce28b88ea1046e9521fe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Are you sure ?
I've just checked it and it doesn't seems as you say...
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2009/7/13 Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.co= m>
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--001485f5ce28b88ea1046e9521fe-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 12:06:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BF393BE79; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:06:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NM+fOKY95uqSX6xuLEyuTPjUrxKXkKblEI+Zcd9OfMw=; b=k7gYP94UVsk1yyEtP4WHZ1nVQ3taQ5Z1R4I/wpGmY+pkhsQcxo4ZLwCVmT5jTCeoGH AMzENIWRvPGf0jSjJ2Pwmex96OYN8PLeJ+HQBl5VOmNKIxjjfJAaN+CcDeKcOQMvssyO 5z6dCEFlNWiiwxtzSmr2FhOboU1kJvs9tP02Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kLzcYY7W/m0s3X/ewUOLmRWbJdM1mTeXg9QccEDK2tsz4umq3qct3/8z7FYaIJny2o LARxLwvnPGNCkTb+I5apiQpSWGWBHX49nE4swW5Hl7D3S4dR6cJotLBqfXQn34sgi4CH 4STAbqHnMCxJdGxUTI1ShY125q1jVJRHPWsaA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907130505r72f5d781n347b9e61bed3429f@mail.gmail.com> References: <126820.96229.qm@web23808.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0907130505r72f5d781n347b9e61bed3429f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:06:05 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907130506vd9a0949u7a0fffc7e0f2d474@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Missing the third dimension (II) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:06:06 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:18 PM, wrote: > I misses depth and three dimensions in my recording. Hey - you should visit some person that is good at mixing music and ask him/her to solo the individual channels for you. Then you will in a flash of enlightenment realize how strange and bizarre each instrument is made to sound on its own in order to sound good in ensemble i.e. in the mix. This knowledge is terribly difficult to achieve on your own by trial and error practicing, almost impossible, because you will only know if you did it correctly when it sounds good at the very end of the process. And if you did just one mistake in the earlier stages of the process it won't sound good at the end and then there is no way finding out what the mistake was. Also remember the psychological dimension; mixing is not first about frequencies and levels. The main goal is to cheat the listeners brain to interpret the sounds in a certain way. That's where the magic starts. Knowing the theory and mastering the technology is just a tool. Best regards per boysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 12:10:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2702B3BE7F; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:10:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0aQ7FAK/SwISFkspDUd+y+ApWJc7Z3/MRue5IWjHUKQ=; b=EYrzqBi3QD7SBHXH4td4yp/SeriUouvtikzYuEm3XoOCar3Bdj61nuy7cIOPTWqstK JcAggl+fWHb7mhE+GI7SVLSaRVC7f/2fxyaYbf2+t1PQJkhYRT5ccrT5DCmjT/3/FNhy Dr9aM3+kbdD3qiDkbZlw3maFjBD+LSpTl05eE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=IlJCyPYPzyCveS/YHwkm20uXVf3v3jL7mhoLur9I/dilp98jgwIg2pT2qZHpZMvDMj cjKc5w0TtfxWXCfHvsvNxh2yYAT6HVoS09hZUIMXEGb1onLCElsaoaTDNJ21ZbGptHyQ X6Mlapnm4r3QUuyzUCJJLDoFk9S+0vmO7z5qc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:10:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live Looping Ensemble - Clips from the jam at the Florence Loopfest 2009 From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f5cedef008b9046e9536b7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:10:59 +0000 (UTC) --001485f5cedef008b9046e9536b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit works if i open it in my browser, but doesn't if i try to save it...weird! On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > third mp3 is the same as the first! > > >> or directly download at: >> www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/*Florence_03-06-09-Jam1.mp3* >> > > ** >> www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/*Florence_03-06-09-Jam2.mp3* >> > > ** >> www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/*Florence_03-06-09-Jam3.mp3* >> > > --001485f5cedef008b9046e9536b7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable works if i open it in my browser, but doesn't if i try to save it...wei= rd!

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Sim= eon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
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--001485f5cedef008b9046e9536b7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 12:16:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B449F3BE80; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eRI25eS1EuZX1Sm6GkqUGOHKLExxZPxLl8Ac+tH3PH8=; b=qBCc6YDsc7y4I3CpxOp+zf3+JZDi+MiuoInFbAW3Nci/GLWae1HzMAra2u+aYCDPbT 5TxNUBuQ9uU/VfNQZDRKoCrX3IQLgYjAwwASeMHt5B4VJpezMoX6azCKn7qLnjdlwPid yPpDUIGdNcKQSfpF+UJjaC++DKosL99Dam09s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=FFicrC9SHmyRYZKyCMxYNmhBt9l+sy1yswxaqNG3kHN0jdfp/7A2XxKz+Kw2ZFd3ya pGkllylixqS2rDmimgIWg/GQuJaAgR8w+kEMkb5/bVyuGNoPuMuD40FpsKtDDPOnZ1nQ 9Kdin6JJGp3fGGDsaDbt5Tkbcz2xdrgf/LnwQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:16:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live Looping Ensemble - Clips from the jam at the Florence Loopfest 2009 From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f7d2aa1fd52a046e954af0 Resent-Message-ID: <1HuBT.A.D_G.VWyWKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:16:21 +0000 (UTC) --001485f7d2aa1fd52a046e954af0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit got it now! lovely stuff On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > works if i open it in my browser, but doesn't if i try to save it...weird! > > --001485f7d2aa1fd52a046e954af0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit got it now!

lovely stuff

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
works if i open it in my browser, but doesn't if i try to save it...weird!


--001485f7d2aa1fd52a046e954af0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 12:26:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C5DF3BE7F; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:26:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2663hy6IlXoxnBD8735KLUMO3CAnMBU2Q0WX8c9Y9JM=; b=ltqho/G2MIbSfisyRBlzhwFFWIwCCyXu4YyufQDQm1Z3vaz4DUtYmzBD9puWPp9II9 N+S5qsFKtKl51SpSrxqHA/GLO0Xmdy2ztjrQQtHo6xJrtLt8reP+eSoGmKaaY8IOhgD5 z35UM6NQwoYKIFyOaoSeiMflIoRxnU2hD2AIU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rVPQKFzK6sJh4OEZ8YkBIjsvRcKFVzC6eXm0UNSC/9IKcCOfh0UuXGh7N+pyOgAed1 MzxdBTsZ+7cOfat6XZpSN5qO/QkvrTcfW/1VHP7LD1QgqjlJReRDh8OOmVmwD/dlPAPZ DjAK7eI1vK5reRYnmfe9e0Ckkmznwccx3NhH8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:19:34 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live Looping Ensemble - Clips from the jam at the Florence Loopfest 2009 From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f7d4acb9d3c6046e95557b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:26:10 +0000 (UTC) --001485f7d4acb9d3c6046e95557b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Per was in a grat shape ! 2009/7/13 Simeon Harris > got it now! > > lovely stuff > > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Simeon Harris < > simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> works if i open it in my browser, but doesn't if i try to save it...weird! >> >> >> > --001485f7d4acb9d3c6046e95557b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Per was in a grat shape !


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--001485f7d4acb9d3c6046e95557b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 12:34:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E7383BE8C; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:34:21 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1247488060; bh=ynLUrrxl5SeTQEWsjJ4M5j3hfTBalJHsGAUr+TjBXlk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Jx75wpYwfiUx5e5BtzDyYFzIwl1MmEusXNdQeIQgBuC2zkCWsBrWKOUjidci1m/iWkGgQKh23mdVn7qlhhEplrErnqnXWntmAOpi6ZNiQPiGaEicSVEhR6LiYD3jDiBKLnaMVgOVRKRxcdDRk4xAjje13qCKEuYrBlTED/g502k= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=05kVDmkau4iSBBGY1ggwzcYbtPuERbM41FeVahj3B+5xemLYfokmc5qIf8DZLG6Ks5znTtsvBtJjtZoeMsSdEOqI1ORAeRlZUybrCqJj9zteLQf7Q4E6zYhzxrK0LvSGs4EGr4OKyhjp1dkPAH2Vwz9BLoo1GRJkXgTg6fu7rBg=; Message-ID: <654994.78675.qm@web24609.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: yHUyYJkVM1k8a314DzENgFxfPySGItsIPD7nXoaR7p1qVQdaA44GeWG5yL9VdjB1IXXHylI7FdxvaxeXbWMgCAMTWqwKRYWIg6PwcuwMiC6jfTkKGj5Y2HmSEHhmNRCviPMSojCJl1Ls9on1wS4YUEn5Aeaci8V0fiyc4CDKIAcEaI3HFPkEaa6RqCuLCdeDaYWasPi9X3StvcyVsqLdNYZhRFOupiqNYtmhQGcqU7ZGMfBpald.2BQDRSGCSuOsZSPLLtU5Jz1NZEuMt5e5hL7BidgpgHEPNT0_PL19sc__27oYNsq1_Mj5XzQSDBzmb9Jrqy9kwA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:27:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Beautiful looping video with audio by David Cooper Orton To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Agreed, really beautiful sounds and visuals.=0A=0AMore please David.=0A=0AS= tephen=0Awww.myspace.com/sylvianfisher=0A=0A=0A--- On Mon, 13/7/09, Rick Wa= lker wrote:=0A=0A> From: Rick Walker =0A> Subject: Beautiful looping video with audio by David Cooper Orton= =0A> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" = =0A> Date: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 2:05 AM=0A> I don't know if this has alre= ady been=0A> shared with people but I was just knocked out=0A> by the quiet= beauty of this work on youtube by David Cooper=0A> Orton that he just post= ed.=0A> =0A> Melding still images with occasional repeating visual video=0A= > patterns and a gorgeous,=0A> zen minimalistic,=A0 harmonic laden guitar= =0A> soundtrack,=A0=A0=A0this was the most beautiful=0A> thing I've seen or= heard in a good while.=0A> =0A> Nice work,=A0 David!=0A> =0A> http://www.y= outube.com/watch?v=3DToLtAj5ORL4&eurl=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Efacebook%2Ecom%2= Fhome%2Ephp%3F&feature=3Dplayer_embedded=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From jk@utzon.arch.usyd.edu.au Mon Jul 13 12:53:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from utzon.arch.usyd.edu.au (utzon.arch.usyd.edu.au [129.78.92.183]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080313BE84 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by utzon.arch.usyd.edu.au (Postfix, from userid 1485053894) id B2B38774EFA9; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:08:52 +1000 (EST) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You have received a postcard ! From: postcard.com Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090712230852.B2B38774EFA9@utzon.arch.usyd.edu.au> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:08:52 +1000 (EST) Hello friend !
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================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 13:04:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 389CF3BE90; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=NPDMvdPYKtrHDJqe+J/oTZ7Jt9Ix6Hdl5IF/TRY/SvhV+sMkO8jZ2wwGpA+bripe; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <126820.96229.qm@web23808.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <126820.96229.qm@web23808.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:02:44 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, rune_fagereng@yahoo.no From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Missing the third dimension (II) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-964632330==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79117a526ea6ffa53106ecc48d4a9c07cf350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:04:07 +0000 (UTC) --============_-964632330==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rune, I've been a professional recording engineer /=20 producer for over 25 years, and I will say that=20 the answer below is number 4: arrangement. The=20 other concerns are trivial compared to=20 arrangement. I've mixed records that have been=20 recorded in a bathroom using a laptop's built in=20 microphone. Those sounds are made valid by their=20 context, i.e. the arrangement. The problem is usually "50 pounds of potatoes in=20 a 10 pound sack". No converter / clocking=20 superstition will solve that problem for you.=20 Plugins and processing are not the solution=20 either, usually these just contribute to the mud=20 caused by a bad arrangement. Have you heard the 1971 Javanese Gamelon=20 recordings on nonesuch? These have tremendous=20 depth and were recorded under some very difficult=20 conditions on less than state of the are gear.=20 The recordings may be 'flawed' but this is one of=20 the most captivating records I've ever heard.=20 External clocking cannot remedy the issues with=20 7.5ips tape flutter, but it really doesn't=20 matter. It's all in the arrangement of the=20 sounds. -Chuck Zwicky >Hi again ! > >I misses depth and three dimensions in my=20 >recording. I can get two dimensions - high and=20 >wide sounds - but its hard to get any kind of=20 >depth. My recorded guitar or vocals often sounds=20 >flat and lifeless. So I take the flat and=20 >lifeless sounds (missing body) and put them in a=20 >room made up of a digital reverb. Its still flat=20 >and lifeless (without body) - but now in a "flat=20 >room" inside the computer, in lack of a better=20 >explanation. This is difficult to describe.=20 >Shoulden`t it be possible to make the singers=20 >head bigger - like a real head was singing to=20 >me, instead of this onedimensional voice? In my=20 >one work I misses instruments/voices that almost=20 >popps out of the speaker or that their in this=20 >nice ambient that glue it al together. And=20 >because I read to many magazines on sound and=20 >commersials, I`ve come to think; I got to buy=20 >better; converters, word clock, reverb, delays,=20 >mics, preamps etc. From your answers I=20 >understand this is a big topic. > >1. Stereo recording (micking) >2. Better converters >3. External word clock >4. Arrangement >5. Eq - panning - masking >6. Room acoustics >7. Enough dsp power (freeze ableton) > >1. Stereomicking. >The thing that got me wandering about recording=20 >and the lack of the third dimensions or depth,=20 >was that my liverecording with Edirol Field=20 >Recorder had a nice depth. A depth I often=20 >misses on my mac/motu recordings. The=20 >fieldrecorder has a stereomic and the recordings=20 >I make with it, has the sound of the liveroom.=20 >This recording technique is limiting - its just=20 >one track.Like Straschill writes, maybe stereo=20 >micking can get me some of what I am missing. > >2. Better converters - external word clock. >I read inBehind the Glass II - Howard Massey,=20 >that top producers uses a external word clock=20 >(Ricard Sales also). Many uses Apogee Big Ben,=20 >even Pro Tools users. This opens the mix and=20 >makes depth. Whats this? > >If one is using just one interface, is there a=20 >benefit of using external word clock or this a=20 >thing for studios with many interfaces and=20 >hardware units? > >The latest Apogee 16x AD/DA interface has Big=20 >Ben word clock build in. I am thinking - maybe=20 >buying Apogee 16x AD/DA would get me what I=20 >misses, greate converters and Big Ben word clock=20 >and open mixes with depth? Any thoughts? > >Sales, your not happy with Apogee, are you=20 >refering to Apogee 16x AD/DA or earlier models?=20 >I read greate things about Apogee, but I will=20 >check out Lynx, like you recommanded. > >A silly question? When Big Ben is intergratet in=20 >Apogee 16x, is this a word clock good enough, or=20 >is external the key thing? Is the important=20 >thing a great word clock, or is external=20 >important? > >7. Freeze functions - Ableton (enough power for plugins - making depth). >Boysen, is it possible to use freeze functions=20 >even when rendering the final mix? I have to=20 >admit - I have come to think I need to buy=20 >better reverb unit then oxford plugins, maybe=20 >the tc 6000. Any thoughts? > >best regards Rune F. > > > >Alt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo!=20 >Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. -- =2E.. http://www.zmix.net --============_-964632330==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Missing the third dimension (II)
Hi Rune,

I've been a professional recording engineer / producer for over 25 years, and I will say that the answer below is number 4:  arrangement.  The other concerns are  trivial compared to arrangement.  I've mixed records that have been recorded in a bathroom using a laptop's built in microphone.  Those sounds are made valid by their context, i.e. the arrangement.

The problem is usually "50 pounds of potatoes in a 10 pound sack".   No converter / clocking superstition will solve that problem for you.  Plugins and processing are not the solution either, usually these just contribute to the mud caused by a bad arrangement.

 Have you heard the 1971 Javanese Gamelon recordings on nonesuch? These have tremendous depth and were recorded under some very difficult conditions on less than state of the are gear.  The recordings may be 'flawed' but this is one of the most captivating records I've ever heard.    External clocking cannot remedy the issues with 7.5ips tape flutter, but it really doesn't matter.  It's all in the arrangement of the sounds.

-Chuck  Zwicky


Hi again !

I misses depth and three dimensions in my recording. I can get two dimensions - high and wide sounds - but its hard to get any kind of depth. My recorded guitar or vocals often sounds flat and lifeless. So I take the flat and lifeless sounds (missing body) and put them in a room made up of a digital reverb. Its still flat and lifeless (without body) - but now in a "flat room" inside the computer, in lack of a better explanation. This is difficult to describe. Shoulden`t it be possible to make the singers head bigger - like a real head was singing to me, instead of this onedimensional voice? In my one work I misses instruments/voices that almost popps out of the speaker or that their in this nice ambient that glue it al together. And because I read to many magazines on sound and commersials, I`ve come to think; I got to buy better; converters, word clock, reverb, delays, mics, preamps etc. From your answers I understand this is a big topic.

1. Stereo recording (micking)
2. Better converters
3. External word clock
4. Arrangement
5. Eq - panning - masking
6. Room acoustics
7. Enough dsp power (freeze ableton)

1. Stereomicking.
The thing that got me wandering about recording and the lack of the third dimensions or depth, was that my liverecording with Edirol Field Recorder had a nice depth. A depth I often misses on my mac/motu recordings. The fieldrecorder has a stereomic and the recordings I make with it, has the sound of the liveroom. This recording technique is limiting - its just one track.Like Straschill writes, maybe stereo micking can get me some of what I am missing.

2. Better converters - external word clock.
I read inBehind the Glass II - Howard Massey, that top producers uses a external word clock (Ricard Sales also). Many uses Apogee Big Ben, even Pro Tools users. This opens the mix and makes depth. Whats this?

If one is using just one interface, is there a benefit of using external word clock or this a thing for studios with many interfaces and hardware units?

The latest Apogee 16x AD/DA interface has Big Ben word clock build in. I am thinking - maybe buying Apogee 16x AD/DA would get me what I misses, greate converters and Big Ben word clock and open mixes with depth? Any thoughts?

Sales, your not happy with Apogee, are you refering to Apogee 16x AD/DA or earlier models? I read greate things about Apogee, but I will check out Lynx, like you recommanded.

A silly question? When Big Ben is intergratet in Apogee 16x, is this a word clock good enough, or is external the key thing? Is the important thing a great word clock, or is external important?

7. Freeze functions - Ableton (enough power for plugins - making depth).
Boysen, is it possible to use freeze functions even when rendering the final mix? I have to admit - I have come to think I need to buy better reverb unit then oxford plugins, maybe the tc 6000. Any thoughts?

best regards Rune F.  


Alt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk.


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http://www.zmix.net
--============_-964632330==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 13:44:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE0213BE79; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 225429068/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.242.98/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.242.98 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AroBAIfWWkpPTvJi/2dsb2JhbAAIzGaECQWJTQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,390,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="225429068" Message-ID: <4A5B3D93.80302@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:58:43 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: For the JamMan Users out there... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Trevor Van Eyck wrote: > > Greetings all, > > Anyone out there still using the Lexicon JamMan? The archives do have > information on the following issues but they are quite dated, so I > thought I might try here (sorry to clog up your inboxes!). > > I was curious about: > > b) Midi Foot Switches: is there a really simple (and ideally) pretty > small MIDI pedal with 2-4 switches that works well with the JamMan? > Would that alleviate the problem I described above? Midi response of the JamMan is slow, so no it wouldn't ;-( > > c) Memory Expansion chips: Anyone located the chips at a good price > lately? Or is eBay my best bet? They appear fairly regular for about > $40+ Shipping. just celebrate that they are still available, ...and go for it andy > > Any opinions are quite welcome. Thanks in advance! > > TREVOR. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 14:18:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E653A3BE81; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:18:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "'Jean Philippe'" , "Loopers Delight" References: <8E9BA7AA28F9451D8987FA719E86D504@portable2jpr> Subject: RE: Echoplex on German eBay Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:18:30 +0200 Message-ID: <002a01ca03c4$cc9f8480$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01CA03D5.90285480" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <8E9BA7AA28F9451D8987FA719E86D504@portable2jpr> Thread-Index: AcoDvcYrdmmA2tIGStC7CuoeGE9J1AABumDg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:18:33 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01CA03D5.90285480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Is that good? oops ... it has been taken down already - probably someone has bought it directly. Hmm. -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01CA03D5.90285480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Is that good? 
 
oops ... it has been taken down already - = probably=20 someone has bought it directly. Hmm.
 
-Michael
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_002B_01CA03D5.90285480-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 14:36:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E65693BE7C; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <4A5A9667.7060207@cruzio.com> References: <4A5A9667.7060207@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Beautiful looping video with audio by David Cooper Orton Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:36:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Very nice indeed. On Jul 12, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > > Nice work, David! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch? > v=ToLtAj5ORL4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Efacebook%2Ecom%2Fhome%2Ephp%3F&fe > ature=player_embedded > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 14:51:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B59AA3BE78; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=22rRdJBv3aBU2FY/vyIJKHDB+xDr99pafV1QHdVJ+rA=; b=jqq0Ytm1JxEKbOOVouifwhqpMN/uiEQL69dZ+6kfk+Hr0fTKWrea6hyXNPhaGm1I3t Qcghjg0QHSXWh/4LEWKkOWnv00q3qMpzRTVuwp/kP97UJqjK8AwYr73jSYsPUJ+b80Kd Hw1+8AWOz8D+NKw4VtRG95xPZlBZi2ru6wtXU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=vauPGSSgIXd3aj+ZeWNhOb7H1lxdc8tc2mpYQkPzMySokOzZD25GdVCXorMu/kmxNQ tRvepdz2DG96UOhPjs0t58/G4OFWgLzqLMt4LhAM7eIWUKiUjYoh+5cA1CKp3M2McbLD efUsOC8xVcaj5pJOCQSo1nLLt2s3Fk+V46XJ4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <126820.96229.qm@web23808.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:51:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Missing the third dimension (II) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163649918b4b3835046e97760e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:51:53 +0000 (UTC) --00163649918b4b3835046e97760e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i think the best thing to do would be to take one of your recordings to someone who is very experienced and let them mix it (and maybe master it too). ask them lots of questions...analyse what they're doing...learn as much as you can! i don't think your problems will be solved by buying more expensive gear or better plugins. better to spend that money paying a professional to mix one of your tunes, because of the knowledge you'll take away from the experience. sim Hi again ! > > > I misses depth and three dimensions in my recording. > > --00163649918b4b3835046e97760e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i think the best thing to do would be to take one of your recordings to someone who is very experienced and let them mix it (and maybe master it too). ask them lots of questions...analyse what they're doing...learn as much as you can!

i don't think your problems will be solved by buying more expensive gear or better plugins. better to spend that money paying a professional to mix one of your tunes, because of the knowledge you'll take away from the experience.

sim

Hi again !

I misses depth and three dimensions in my recording.

--00163649918b4b3835046e97760e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 15:00:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7257E3BE78; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=4O71h2vSbi+k/BiWuLUdDbEiEyMdeh8sZ4O9dcPH2g4=; b=bdpBY4qLeERCoZsettl0YzeHpZfcTGD587dZLbvIfzxekwo+LcyI4JL8lYiCxN90bv DNUp31HAg1YM3w3y2b/wW88N3wY5rhuP2YIVz+dcBQAgZv2V+RM9pTJQ+b/v7rkQrWeC 2rO/dcDowhb/sSHttoY64C6gg229vJGnF7ues= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ha+B4RJc634h1LiSFDlwOVKr2n5fM7vUUpy5foCCvqLGBYp5oA7XUY5OL1rLJcK2vr wGMVNVB6rZYxlHynkmF/vnVQ5WnslSuuEIgaBEkJYwzbRcHrE9GwK5GSJ4MouuUyYbiz JKyD52J+jAnLrYs9yZljP1OX+N6ZqLyqyvSuQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <126820.96229.qm@web23808.mail.ird.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:59:37 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5359a3f08697b081 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907130759y4c190ff7pf4b078151516db19@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Missing the third dimension (II) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be13461fe1f046e9793ad Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:00:01 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be13461fe1f046e9793ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rune! Heres one from a Lo Fi enthusiast... I say.. forget the gear just for a while, forget the rules for a while, and start doing a few things wrong. I have a friend making Techno, and he is obsessed with getting eveyting perfect and just right, he has all the right convertors, and plugins and gold connectors on everything, and you know what?? He mixes like that too!!= ! His tracks sound like butter... smooth but boring. What about shoving something really high in the mix..? what about removing ALL reverb for the chorus, what about no snare drum altogether.. what about putting the bass thru a time synched panner?? What about recording the vocals 10 times... What about singing in the shower... NONE of these techniques have anything to do with recording techniques, and no one but a real ass will be able to tell the difference between your convertors... IF THE TRACK IS GOOD!! If its crap, then .... I guess you=B4ll here lots of discussion about "what did u record it on, oh really, what convertors is that? Oh really, what DAW= ? oh really what reverb..." Basically... Your track sucks... Ive heard your stuff... it doesnt suck so forget about the damn convertors, and come down and play in Oslo!!! Mark On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Charles Zwicky wro= te: > Hi Rune, > > I've been a professional recording engineer / producer for over 25 years, > and I will say that the answer below is number 4: arrangement. The othe= r > concerns are trivial compared to arrangement. I've mixed records that h= ave > been recorded in a bathroom using a laptop's built in microphone. Those > sounds are made valid by their context, i.e. the arrangement. > > The problem is usually "50 pounds of potatoes in a 10 pound sack". No > converter / clocking superstition will solve that problem for you. Plugi= ns > and processing are not the solution either, usually these just contribute= to > the mud caused by a bad arrangement. > > Have you heard the 1971 Javanese Gamelon recordings on nonesuch? These > have tremendous depth and were recorded under some very difficult conditi= ons > on less than state of the are gear. The recordings may be 'flawed' but t= his > is one of the most captivating records I've ever heard. External clock= ing > cannot remedy the issues with 7.5ips tape flutter, but it really doesn't > matter. It's all in the arrangement of the sounds. > > -Chuck Zwicky > > > Hi again ! > > > I misses depth and three dimensions in my recording. I can get two > dimensions - high and wide sounds - but its hard to get any kind of depth= . > My recorded guitar or vocals often sounds flat and lifeless. So I take th= e > flat and lifeless sounds (missing body) and put them in a room made up of= a > digital reverb. Its still flat and lifeless (without body) - but now in a > "flat room" inside the computer, in lack of a better explanation. This is > difficult to describe. Shoulden`t it be possible to make the singers head > bigger - like a real head was singing to me, instead of this onedimension= al > voice? In my one work I misses instruments/voices that almost popps out o= f > the speaker or that their in this nice ambient that glue it al together. = And > because I read to many magazines on sound and commersials, I`ve come to > think; I got to buy better; converters, word clock, reverb, delays, mics, > preamps etc. From your answers I understand this is a big topic. > > > 1. Stereo recording (micking) > > 2. Better converters > > 3. External word clock > > 4. Arrangement > > 5. Eq - panning - masking > > 6. Room acoustics > > 7. Enough dsp power (freeze ableton) > > > 1. Stereomicking. > > The thing that got me wandering about recording and the lack of the third > dimensions or depth, was that my liverecording with Edirol Field Recorder > had a nice depth. A depth I often misses on my mac/motu recordings. The > fieldrecorder has a stereomic and the recordings I make with it, has the > sound of the liveroom. This recording technique is limiting - its just on= e > track.Like Straschill writes, maybe stereo micking can get me some of wha= t I > am missing. > > > 2. Better converters - external word clock. > > I read in*Behind the Glass II* - Howard Massey, that top producers uses a > external word clock (Ricard Sales also). Many uses Apogee Big Ben, even P= ro > Tools users. This opens the mix and makes depth. Whats this? > > > If one is using just one interface, is there a benefit of using external > word clock or this a thing for studios with many interfaces and hardware > units? > > > The latest Apogee 16x AD/DA interface has Big Ben word clock build in. I = am > thinking - maybe buying Apogee 16x AD/DA would get me what I misses, grea= te > converters and Big Ben word clock and open mixes with depth? Any thoughts= ? > > > Sales, your not happy with Apogee, are you refering to Apogee 16x AD/DA o= r > earlier models? I read greate things about Apogee, but I will check out > Lynx, like you recommanded. > > > A silly question? When Big Ben is intergratet in Apogee 16x, is this a wo= rd > clock good enough, or is external the key thing? Is the important thing a > great word clock, or is external important? > > > 7. Freeze functions - Ableton (enough power for plugins - making depth). > > Boysen, is it possible to use freeze functions even when rendering the > final mix? I have to admit - I have come to think I need to buy better > reverb unit then oxford plugins, maybe the tc 6000. Any thoughts? > > > best regards Rune F. > > > ------------------------------ > > > Alt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartote= k, > kalender og notisblokk. > > > > -- > > ... > http://www.zmix.net > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --0015174be13461fe1f046e9793ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rune!

Heres one from a Lo Fi enthusiast... I say.. forget the gea= r just for a while, forget the rules for a while, and start doing a few thi= ngs wrong. I have a friend making Techno, and he is obsessed with getting e= veyting perfect and just right, he has all the right convertors, and plugin= s and gold connectors on everything, and you know what?? He mixes like that= too!!! His tracks sound like butter... smooth but boring.

What about shoving something really high in the mix..? what about remov= ing ALL reverb for the chorus, what about no snare drum altogether.. what a= bout putting the bass thru a time synched panner?? What about recording the= vocals 10 times... What about singing in the shower...

NONE of these techniques have anything to do with recording techniques,= and no one but a real ass will be able to tell the difference between your= convertors... IF THE TRACK IS GOOD!!

If its crap, then .... I gues= s you=B4ll here lots of discussion about "what did u record it on, oh = really, what convertors is that? Oh really, what DAW? oh really what reverb= ..." Basically... Your track sucks...

Ive heard your stuff... it doesnt suck so forget about the damn convert= ors, and come down and play in Oslo!!!


Mark

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
Hi Rune,

I've been a professional recording engineer / producer for over 25 years, and I will say that the answer below is number 4:=A0 arrangement.=A0 The other concerns are=A0 trivial compared to arrangement.=A0 I've mixed records that have been recorded in a bathroom using a laptop's built in microphone.=A0 Those sounds are made valid by their context, i.e. the arrangement.

The problem is usually "50 pounds of potatoes in a 10 pound sack".=A0=A0 No converter / clocking superstition will solve that problem for you.=A0 Plugins and processing are not the solution either, usually these just contribute to the mud caused by a bad arrangement.

=A0Have you heard the 1971 Javanese Gamelon recordings on nonesuch? These have tremendous depth and were recorded under some very difficult conditions on less than state of the are gear.=A0 The recordings may be 'flawed' but this is one of the most captivat= ing records I've ever heard.=A0=A0=A0 External clocking cannot remedy the issues with 7.5ips tape flutter, but it really doesn't matter.=A0 It's all in the arrangement of the sounds.

-Chuck=A0 Zwicky


Hi again !

I misses depth and three dimensions in my recording. I can get two dimensions - high and wide sounds - but its hard to get any kind of depth. My recorded guitar or vocals often sounds flat and lifeless. So I take the flat and lifeless sounds (missing body) and put them in a room made up of a digital reverb. Its still flat and lifeless (without body) - but now in a "flat room" inside the computer, in lack of a better explanation. This is difficult to describe. Shoulden`t it be possible to make the singers head bigger - like a real head was singing to me, instead of this onedimensional voice? In my one work I misses instruments/voices that almost popps out of the speaker or that their in this nice ambient that glue it al together. And because I read to many magazines on sound and commersials, I`ve come to think; I got to buy better; converters, word clock, reverb, delays, mics, preamps etc. From your answers I understand this is a big topic.

1. Stereo recording (micking)
2. Better converters
3. External word=A0clock
4. Arrangement
5. Eq - panning - masking
6. Room acoustics
7. Enough dsp power (freeze ableton)

1. Stereomicking.
The thing that got me wandering about recording and the lack of the third dimensions or depth, was that my liverecording with Edirol Field Recorder had a nice depth. A depth I often misses on my mac/motu recordings. The fieldrecorder has a stereomic and the recordings I make with it, has the sound of the liveroom. This recording technique is limiting - its just one track.Like Straschill writes, maybe stereo micking can get me some of what I am missing.

2. Better converters - external word clock.
I read inBehind the Glass II=A0- Howard Massey, that top producers uses a external word clock (Ricard Sales also). Many uses Apogee Big Ben, even Pro Tools users. This opens the mix and makes depth. Whats this?

If one is using just one interface, is there a benefit of using external word clock or this a thing for studios with many interfaces and hardware units?

The latest Apogee 16x AD/DA interface has Big Ben word clock build in. I am thinking - maybe buying Apogee 16x AD/DA would get me what I misses, greate converters and Big Ben word clock and open mixes with depth? Any thoughts?

Sales, your not happy with Apogee, are you refering to Apogee 16x AD/DA or earlier models? I read greate things about Apogee, but I will check out Lynx, like you recommanded.

A silly question? When Big Ben is intergratet in Apogee 16x, is this a word clock good enough, or is external the key thing? Is the important thing a great word clock, or is external important?

7. Freeze functions - Ableton (enough power for plugins - making depth).
Boysen, is it possible to use freeze functions even when rendering the final mix? I have to admit - I have come to think I need to buy better reverb unit then oxford plugins, maybe the tc 6000. Any thoughts?

best regards Rune F.=A0=A0


Alt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk.


--=20



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http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
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I think it just has three colors to represent inactive, recording and playing. Very non scary.  It's no tenori-on.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 12, 2009, at 2:38 PM, "Jean Philippe" <jp.rykiel@orange.fr> wrote:

Hi,
I heard that this Akai thing had buttons that light in different colours every time you press them, this scares me.
JPR
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: ableton live

I suggest finding a retailer that will let you spend some time with the akai apc40 as it's designed for total mouse free performance.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 12, 2009, at 3:21 AM, "Jean Philippe" <jp.rykiel@orange.fr> wrote:

Hi there,
I don't know if I told you but I'm blind. this prevents me from using a computer onstage because I would need to hear my screen reader speak while I'm performing. What a drag!
But I was told that Live could be used with a MIDI controller without having to use the mouse and look at the screen at all. How true do you think this is?
Cheers,
JPR
--Apple-Mail-6-755968158-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 15:43:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAB983BE77; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:43:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090713154317218.3535A8000066@mwinf2a17.orange.fr Message-ID: <398B2FF4E4A14AB1A16D3BAF4DDF43C4@portable2jpr> From: "Jean Philippe" To: References: <28EDBA11012A48029B1353B5557E1B28@portable2jpr> <115022DF-C5EA-4FB6-B813-D28F20239F9D@gmail.com> Subject: Re: ableton live Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:43:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA03E1.69C40760" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:43:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA03E1.69C40760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well you know, it's still scary if you can't see them. JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Sottilaro=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 5:23 PM Subject: Re: ableton live I think it just has three colors to represent inactive, recording and = playing. Very non scary. It's no tenori-on. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2009, at 2:38 PM, "Jean Philippe" = wrote: Hi, I heard that this Akai thing had buttons that light in different = colours every time you press them, this scares me. JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Sottilaro=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:05 PM Subject: Re: ableton live I suggest finding a retailer that will let you spend some time = with the akai apc40 as it's designed for total mouse free performance. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2009, at 3:21 AM, "Jean Philippe" = wrote: Hi there, I don't know if I told you but I'm blind. this prevents me from = using a computer onstage because I would need to hear my screen reader = speak while I'm performing. What a drag! But I was told that Live could be used with a MIDI controller = without having to use the mouse and look at the screen at all. How true = do you think this is? Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA03E1.69C40760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well you know, it's still scary if you = can't see=20 them.
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark=20 Sottilaro
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 = 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: ableton live

I think it just has three colors to represent inactive, recording = and=20 playing. Very non scary.  It's no tenori-on.

Sent from my=20 iPhone

On Jul 12, 2009, at 2:38 PM, "Jean Philippe" <jp.rykiel@orange.fr>=20 wrote:

Hi,
I heard that this Akai thing = had buttons=20 that light in different colours every time you press them, this = scares=20 me.
JPR
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Mark=20 Sottilaro
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 = 11:05=20 PM
Subject: Re: ableton = live

I suggest finding a retailer that will let you spend some = time with=20 the akai apc40 as it's designed for total mouse free=20 performance.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 12, 2009, at 3:21 AM, "Jean Philippe" <jp.rykiel@orange.fr>=20 wrote:

Hi there,
I don't know if I = told you but=20 I'm blind. this prevents me from using a computer onstage = because I=20 would need to hear my screen reader speak while I'm performing. = What a=20 drag!
But I was told that Live could = be used with=20 a MIDI controller without having to use the mouse and look at = the screen=20 at all. How true do you think this = is?
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA03E1.69C40760-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 17:50:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F19843BE81; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090713175043946.E703F1C00081@mwinf3519.me.freeserve.com Message-Id: From: Steve Bingham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907121522u4a0656aak94e7c5e07db0ef7f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Bidule midi question Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:50:43 +0100 References: <2329C163-1127-4DC4-8FB9-224C598AA133@con-brio.com> <66f9cc1e0907121522u4a0656aak94e7c5e07db0ef7f@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Per. Steve On 12 Jul 2009, at 23:22, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Steve Bingham brio.com> wrote: >> Do any Bidule users out there know how I can do the following, as >> I'm pretty >> new to the program: >> >> I have two midi inputs coming into Bidule from external sources, on >> two >> different midi channels. One is connected up to a synth module >> (Absynth). I >> would like to use a range of note on values from the other input to >> control >> the volume in Absynth. >> >> Any ideas welcome!! > > > Having two MIDI In ports is no problem. You can either (1) cable MIDI > streams wherever you need to send them or through Bidules that > filters, transposes, remaps etc. Or you can (2) use the Parameters > Window to directly assign some MIDI to a target parameter. > > Or you can just double-click and Bidule or plug-in and click its "MIDI > Learn" button, touch a parameters graphical object and send in the > external MIDI you want to create a binding to. After having done this > you mustn't forget to turn off the MIDI Learn function - or you will > end up with hundreds of parameters assigned to your precious pedal > ;-)) > > Regarding that "range of notes" you want to control Abysynth volume I > have a feeling that it would make a good start convert those notes to > either MIDI CC# or direct parameter control data. I would look for a > way to that to start with. Might need some scaling to work, which is > done by first opening the plug-in's GUI then clicking its button > marked "Params" (at the top Bidule shell) and then selecting the > actual parameter in the parmeters list in the left column. You can > then set Min and Max value for the parameter to scale it to you > musical need. > > I'm sorry I don't know the details, but the manual is quite ok for > looking up things and at the Bidule forum people are very keen on > helping. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > From netbank@commbank.com.au Mon Jul 13 18:01:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 754 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:00:59 UTC Received: from mail.ocarc.net (adsl-99-160-183-90.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net [99.160.183.90]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035E83BE71; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:00:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([66.200.130.146]) by mail.ocarc.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:47:56 -0700 From: "Commonwealth Bank of Australia" Subject: You have 1 new secure message at Netbank Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:48:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jul 2009 17:47:56.0515 (UTC) FILETIME=[0DF54330:01CA03E2] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-8.1.0.1092-5.600.1016-16760.003 X-TM-AS-Result: Yes-36.676200-8.000000-31 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No To: undisclosed-recipients:;

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 20:59:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BF473BE78; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 226273452/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.242.98/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.242.98 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AroBAC89W0pPTvJi/2dsb2JhbAAIz2yECQWJTQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,392,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="226273452" Message-ID: <4A5BA3B9.8000504@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:14:33 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational) References: <66f9cc1e0907101144v778df295p3e36893032224f69@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270FDE1@barq.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270FDE1@barq.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0s9vGC.A.26G.PB6WKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Larson wrote: >> I got a billion times better response doing a karaoke version of >> Purple Rain at my wife's company's Christmas party last year > > Please tell me there is video. > > Jeff > please tell us there isn't :-) andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 21:06:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE4083BE77; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: From: richard sales To: rune_fagereng@yahoo.no In-Reply-To: <126820.96229.qm@web23808.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-776543392 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Missing the third dimension (II) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:06:39 -0700 References: <126820.96229.qm@web23808.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:06:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-776543392 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rune I was referring to the Apogee converters... the AD/DA boxes. They may =20= have fixed the issue, but I would, no matter what, research the heck =20 out of anything I buy. There is no hurry and I'm betting things will =20= just get cheaper and cheaper as the world economies continue to crash. I'll try to dig up some emails describing the down side of the Apogee =20= AD/DA stuff and send to you off group, Rune. External clock is most important when you have numerous converters =20 running at once - so that 44.1 on one device is EXACTLY the same on =20 another. If you only have one converter running, it may be better to =20= use its internal clock. If you're using multiple digital processors =20 then think about the clock. Again, the Aurora stuff is great. I personally don't think reverb is the answer. Heard good things =20 about Altiverb. I use the reverbs that come with Pro Tools 8/HD3. =20 And my old Lexicon 200... which I love. For me, and this is just my =20 dumb opinion, reverbs can work against the idea of the '3D' clarity =20 thing. That may be why you hear more of it in your portable recorder =20= stuff - no reverb or processing. There's some nice writing on clocks on benchmark's site - http://www.benchmarkmedia.com/appnotes-d/jittercu.html I'm running out the door! more later R On Jul 13, 2009, at 4:18 AM, rune_fagereng@yahoo.no wrote: > > mixes with depth? Any thoughts? > > Sales, your not happy with Apogee, are you refering to Apogee 16x AD/=20= > DA or earlier models? I read greate things about Apogee, but I will =20= > check out Lynx, like you recommanded. > > A silly question? When Big Ben is intergratet in Apogee 16x, is this =20= > a word clock good enough, or is external the key thing? Is the =20 > important thing a great word clock, or is external important? > > 7. Freeze functions - Ableton (enough power for plugins - making =20 > depth). > Boysen, is it possible to use freeze functions even when rendering =20 > the final mix? I have to admit - I have come to think I need to buy =20= > better reverb unit then oxford plugins, maybe the tc 6000. Any =20 > thoughts? > > best regards Rune F. > > > Alt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og = notisblokk. richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com --Apple-Mail-1-776543392 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rune

I = was referring to the Apogee converters... the AD/DA boxes.  They = may have fixed the issue, but I would, no matter what, research the heck = out of anything I buy.  There is no hurry and I'm betting things = will just get cheaper and cheaper as the world economies continue to = crash. 

I'll try to dig up some emails = describing the down side of the Apogee AD/DA stuff and send to you off = group, Rune.   

External clock is = most important when you have numerous converters running at once - so = that 44.1 on one device is EXACTLY the same on another.  If you = only have one converter running, it may be better to use its internal = clock.  If you're using multiple digital processors then think = about the clock.  Again, the Aurora stuff is = great. 

I personally don't think reverb is = the answer.  Heard good things about Altiverb.  I use the = reverbs that come with Pro Tools 8/HD3.  And my old Lexicon 200... = which I love.  For me, and this is just my dumb opinion, reverbs = can work against the idea of the '3D' clarity thing.  That may be = why you hear more of it in your portable recorder stuff - no reverb or = processing.  

There's some nice writing on = clocks on benchmark's site - 


= I'm running out the door!

more = later

R
On Jul 13, 2009, at 4:18 = AM, rune_fagereng@yahoo.no = wrote:


From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 15:28:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2D763BE7E; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:28:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [70.29.19.154] X-Originating-Email: [vaneyck@sympatico.ca] Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:28:29 -0400 From: Trevor Van Eyck User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Uptown Flash 4x1 manual References: <4A65DA45.4090200@post.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: <4A65DA45.4090200@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jul 2009 15:28:46.0181 (UTC) FILETIME=[F0136950:01CA0A17] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:28:47 +0000 (UTC) I do - it's not a digital copy though... TREVOR. van Sinn wrote: > Anyone happen to have a manual for an Uptown Flash 4x1 switcher unit? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 15:41:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D23F3BE78; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:41:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A65E24C.904@het.it> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:44:12 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani H&T Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: How to use moebius and guitar rig together Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090106-1, 06/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:41:59 +0000 (UTC) Hi to all the loopers! As ou know i'm a newbie here, although i play live looping from many years using simple instruments... But let's go to the question: I got a new macbook with OSX 10.5 and and recently i decided to use it for looping. I play guitars and other instruments like air synths theremins etc. I dwnld moebius and i started playing it helped with my FCB1010 and it works well. But i'd like to expand possibilities using other stuff that could me avoid to use external multieffects etc etc and i decided to use guitar rig, but i actually dont'k know the better way to connect them. Maybe a sw like live or cubase or logic could resolve the problem bt...is the simplest way? Have you opinions about that? T.I.A. Max Liver PS Rick... don't give up! ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 15:50:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E2EC3BE78; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:50:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lmYKz5jJHgMGf8jO/kDqX7nN/1WlSTAwVAImFFCrkJk=; b=drGJLYfPsy8TIrgU8woe8qNhy7hoQDp/U0E26aMeaDQtyNm8EUqmeMHxj/r/IBruWs kia8jVZBvELDXSgEvcIgw1F7LVbKRIYfg6sVQkhPsqkHqOB84SogBmoFsf1N+5zqu+F/ 0DJU/ixF/iRob2ZQwzWNeVh1z9FzxJPeGdE/Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=LeBF4Wh9mOtMs3Ho0g81g9Cjrtmh0jNkIe1kwQn/MWJ1K+eEQ0k5iznubISkEsJEnI 92tGfEIf1NhGn2lvK4Jya1l5ihW5G8Gl6W5hPiuRmkO5fmfFulX9WVpuaOE/l9eiCIlw iA+UV6lOqVwgW2klAkuaTnpYQF0QbS+rNZS6E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <4A65DA45.4090200@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:50:22 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 88147cdfecbad8f8 Message-ID: <101191640907210850y77fbc8b5nae3da3db9417fc3e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Uptown Flash 4x1 manual From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ee1e4596d90046f3936d6 Resent-Message-ID: <2xDd4.A.P_C.APeZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:50:24 +0000 (UTC) --0016364ee1e4596d90046f3936d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit omg, haven't heard of that one in a long time. you using it, Van? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Trevor Van Eyck wrote: > > I do - it's not a digital copy though... > > TREVOR. > > > van Sinn wrote: > >> Anyone happen to have a manual for an Uptown Flash 4x1 switcher unit? >> >> >> > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --0016364ee1e4596d90046f3936d6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable omg, haven't heard of that one in a long time. you using it, Van?
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Trevor Van E= yck <vaneyck@s= ympatico.ca> wrote:

=A0 I do - it's not a digital copy though...

=A0 TREVOR.


van Sinn wrote:
Anyone happen to have a manual for an Uptown Flash 4x1 switcher unit?






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--0016364ee1e4596d90046f3936d6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 16:07:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EEB23BE7C; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1248192454; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=+bvSy50gLjwfEk8A3tFkszyDN60=; b=f6iM+KqhogHW8uXGBOLTfmAMDx4C7GMTXLqfuJh3AGK6plzs+uP2pE+hl/yUvOIw 296YneoN7Cyy+pEoNgW64FjwKnTOFYCjJBZZO23RG1hxaA9w/2myNfetVvly3fp0; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=1gOXZUZPAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=TPVeAonh6zVsyXT-LWUA:9 a=4YRGyOL5ZVxciBpaXeZn033wr08A:4 a=k15IDyXdPu8A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000e01ca0a1d$a4b95860$7c862245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <4A65DA45.4090200@post.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: Uptown Flash 4x1 manual Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:09:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Tough one, I did find this: http://facstaff.uww.edu/craggsj/uptown.html Only the Great Divide and maybe the email will work, i didn't try it. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "van Sinn" To: "Loopers-Delight" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:09 AM Subject: Uptown Flash 4x1 manual > Anyone happen to have a manual for an Uptown Flash 4x1 switcher unit? > > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 16:26:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DFF53BE77; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4766 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:26:51 UTC Message-ID: <4A65ECE7.5090000@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:29:27 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Uptown Flash 4x1 manual References: <4A65DA45.4090200@post.cybercity.dk> <000e01ca0a1d$a4b95860$7c862245@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <000e01ca0a1d$a4b95860$7c862245@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <74qZm.A.rfE.MxeZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Trevor Van Eyck wrote: > > I do - it's not a digital copy though... How many pages? Is a scan job possible? Warren Sirota wrote: > omg, haven't heard of that one in a long time. you using it, Van? Not yet, considering. I have an offer two of those. Not really sure.. I might decide to mod an old Scholz Octopussy (9½" box) with eight on/off switches into an analog switcher/router to have maybe six routings and two on/off switches. Jeff Duke wrote: > Tough one, I did find this: > > http://facstaff.uww.edu/craggsj/uptown.html > > Only the Great Divide and maybe the email will work, i didn't try it. > > Jeff Yeah, I know about the link ;) but alas, alach, no 4x1 manual it seems. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "van Sinn" > To: "Loopers-Delight" > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:09 AM > Subject: Uptown Flash 4x1 manual > > >> Anyone happen to have a manual for an Uptown Flash 4x1 switcher unit? >> >> >> -- >> rgds, >> van Sinn >> >> > > -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 17:31:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17A733BE77; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jCIXdkN53ebnL5xEuTtE0z6IrcsEGO7YkS10wCPhom4=; b=vUnMjD/AVrm+ML8lYWYwzQw9i0PMzBrlIwiEVW/D6BaDVUbEhDg5/B8FI4/nY1X7RF DDNzfbzKQVHh9fX+EOvjh/F79EaGRuywM5VT/B2TYNGPx3kF8mncaHCkMK67kR3/hUgb 6v0kgd4eLpCKL82ekZYhi/IG0p/15pg8+w1Zk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=j7Wxnj+7TPnvUS67gryULenGwZPo1j1jf7cDdRbQ43AvJq7iYoJJ1c7euvie9P2wNi IPmvKfi43REq1NRs5FtdDTKk5mZ+0qTrddw6j6zQ0e+s+6vqoGAEnyhomOgqc8mbyb12 nkQ/W/y1iUHxobjidGYkt09tKJcOU+aCnW81Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <480F2DD3-4F0B-4613-B915-57F7E047C251@btinternet.com> <006401ca09d8$06a60550$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <4A65CAE4.1090308@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:31:12 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Guitar to Midi Converter From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ef3d8fdec6c046f3a9e1e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:31:13 +0000 (UTC) --0016364ef3d8fdec6c046f3a9e1e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, since Ted brought up the GR-1 ... I've only been using the Roland GK gear for 4 years ... I started with a GK-2 on a Fender Squier and a GR-1 ... because I came to playing electric from classical, I don't seem to have experienced some of the complaints tha= t others have mentioned that are technique-based. I added a GR-20 to the mix about 3 years ago. Again, no problems as being reported here. During that time, I also got a Godin xtSA that has a 13-pin pickup built in to it. Again, no problems. I flirted briefly with an early Axon, but it was more primitive than my GR-= 1 and not that close to my GR-20 so I sold it. The sounds were good and I can only imagine that the newer ones are worth the money. Again, I did not experience any issues from the "performance" stand point, just limitations of it being an early model. Two year ago, I added a GI-20 interface and a Roland XV-2020 to drive it. I am using Roland US-20's to switch between the various components. Because m= y original GR-1 began to develop seriosu issues with the power supply connection, I acquired another, expanded, one along with a VG-8EX. (n.b., I am underwhelmed by the VG-8, possibly because I am not into "Amp Models" an= d am looking at sound synthesis ... I may be putting the VG-8 up for sale shortly). Likewise, since Fripp's name was raised by the original poster, his most recent trip through the US revealed him STILL using the Roland GR-1 ... it'= s tied into several Eventide Eclipses and other goodies, including the latest Axon synth. He keeps the GR-1 as his primary guitar interface/synthesizer because "he likes its' bell and chime sounds." (Yes, I asked ... ) He is also using the Roland US-20 13-pin switch/pedals. BTW, his guitars on this trip all had the 13-pin pickups built in ... no external GKs. Conclusions (mine only!): The GKs seem to require some adjustment of technique for some; there is lots of good used Roland and Axon synths out there to be had if one wants to get into polyphonic guitar-driven synthesis= . THere are usually a number of GR-20/GK-2 and GI-20/GK-2 packages on eBay on any given day. One advantage of using a GI-20 is that it allows you to hook up ANY other MIDI synth source ... including a Mac laptop running Garage Band ... or setting the GR-1 at #28 allows a "blank" MIDI channel to drive other MIDI synths from the MIDI/OUT plug. Lots of good solutions with a little searching and digging. Best, Dennis On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:11 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wr= ote: > Hi all, > > I've spent several years using Roland GR synth gear and actually have GK > pickups on a number of my guitars. > > When it comes to tracking, yes there are issues concerning how cleanly on= e > picks and frets the notes on their instrument. > > There are also issues from instrument to instrument - no matter how well > you set up the hex pickup, some instruments still seem to track slightly > better than others. > > I think there are some guitars that are just not good candidates for this > stuff - but my experience is not extensive enough to say what the factors > involved actually are. > > Within the last year or two I've added a VG-99 to my kit as well. > > In addition to having the all the usual VG advantages (tracking wise) the > VG-99 also has pitch-to-MIDI conversion capabilities. > > These I have not made use of yet - but they're there as an option. > > I still have an old GR-1EX that I have used forever and am very satisfied > with. > > If I really needed pitch-to-MIDI I expect it would be more convenient to > use that. > > There are a lot of options out there though from other companies. > > Best, > > Ted Killian > > --=20 http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --0016364ef3d8fdec6c046f3a9e1e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, since Ted brought up the GR-1 ...

I've only been using th= e Roland GK gear for 4 years ... I started with a GK-2 on a Fender Squier a= nd a GR-1 ... because I came to playing electric from classical, I don'= t seem to have experienced some of the complaints that others have mentione= d that are technique-based. I added a GR-20 to the mix about 3 years ago. A= gain, no problems as being reported here. During that time, I also got a Go= din xtSA that has a 13-pin pickup built in to it. Again, no problems.

I flirted briefly with an early Axon, but it was more primitive than my= GR-1 and not that close to my GR-20 so I sold it. The sounds were good and= I can only imagine that the newer ones are worth the money. Again, I did n= ot experience any issues from the "performance" stand point, just= limitations of it being an early model.

Two year ago, I added a GI-20 interface and a Roland XV-2020 to drive i= t. I am using Roland US-20's to switch between the various components. = Because my original GR-1 began to develop seriosu issues with the power sup= ply connection, I acquired another, expanded, one along with a VG-8EX. (n.b= ., I am underwhelmed by the VG-8, possibly because I am not into "Amp = Models" and am looking at sound synthesis ... I may be putting the VG-= 8 up for sale shortly).

Likewise, since Fripp's name was raised by the original poster, his= most recent trip through the US revealed him STILL using the Roland GR-1 .= .. it's tied into several Eventide Eclipses and other goodies, includin= g the latest Axon synth. He keeps the GR-1 as his primary guitar interface/= synthesizer because "he likes its' bell and chime sounds." (Y= es, I asked ... ) He is also using the Roland US-20 13-pin switch/pedals. B= TW, his guitars on this trip all had the 13-pin pickups built in ... no ext= ernal GKs.

Conclusions (mine only!): The GKs seem to require some adjustment of te= chnique for some; there is lots of good used Roland and Axon synths out the= re to be had if one wants to get into polyphonic guitar-driven synthesis. T= Here are usually a number of GR-20/GK-2 and GI-20/GK-2 packages on eBay on = any given day. One advantage of using a GI-20 is that it allows you to hook= up ANY other MIDI synth source ... including a Mac laptop running Garage B= and ... or setting the GR-1 at #28 allows a "blank" MIDI channel = to drive other MIDI synths from the MIDI/OUT plug. Lots of good solutions w= ith a little searching and digging.

Best,

Dennis


On Tue, Jul 2= 1, 2009 at 8:11 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
Hi all,

I've spent several years using Roland GR synth gear and actually have G= K pickups on a number of my guitars.

When it comes to tracking, yes there are issues concerning how cleanly one = picks and frets the notes on their instrument.

There are also issues from instrument to instrument - no matter how well yo= u set up the hex pickup, some instruments still seem to track slightly bett= er than others.

I think there are some guitars that are just not good candidates for this s= tuff - but my experience is not extensive enough to say what the factors in= volved actually are.

Within the last year or two I've added a VG-99 to my kit as well.

In addition to having the all the usual VG advantages (tracking wise) the V= G-99 also has pitch-to-MIDI conversion capabilities.

These I have not made use of yet - but they're there as an option.

I still have an old GR-1EX that I have used forever and am very satisfied w= ith.

If I really needed pitch-to-MIDI I expect it would be more convenient to us= e that.

There are a lot of options out there though from other companies.

Best,

Ted Killian




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--0016364ef3d8fdec6c046f3a9e1e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 18:23:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C456C3BE77; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:23:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Kv2TkB+Bm4NyxbkzSgWUvQvBZN3dL8gFrj8P47f2v1Q=; b=ROPrArurQbRUKoU1NZ7H262dPOJqHYKWcwXzkltWVH24Gqhc6ncHB7GJ9sxwy7gIC3 d5oDgEENKzZCCKkrYd61z43xarykKpM1/gbTZWmsSOMtRSb6JO/ogYnnEbzC1C0fSFh7 0SSnGGBlKxdfihdNp1p/SUfhlxVeEfSc/zjPo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gSLoIQRiUgSpt1m2NEyJj1Nesg+sbZKVCACDbwM9rvDCxJPpja5tMFgVcRZj/1ghcd Zxk4RqlATOAe7EseHjilZesF7Uq9BE6yzHt2dbMSIm4eOB6D0RlKkfxCOKX47dBh2R98 J/F51XJBA6F+k+kTylTahNAbprL44Owd+f0o4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A65E24C.904@het.it> References: <4A65E24C.904@het.it> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:23:55 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to use moebius and guitar rig together From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:23:55 +0000 (UTC) You'll need an application called a "host" to do this. Luckily your Macbook came with one for free called Garageband. I've not used it much, but I think it should be fairly simple to load them up as plug-ins and make it happen. I personally like Ableton's Live for this, but there are plenty of apps that'll more or less get you there. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Massimo Liverani H&T wrot= e: > Hi to all the loopers! > As ou know i'm a newbie here, although i play live looping from many year= s > using simple instruments... > But let's go to the question: > I got a new macbook with OSX 10.5 and and recently i decided to use it fo= r > looping. > I play guitars and other instruments like air synths theremins etc. > I dwnld moebius and i started playing it helped with my FCB1010 and it wo= rks > well. > But i'd like to =A0expand possibilities using other stuff that could me a= void > to use external multieffects etc etc > and i decided to use guitar rig, but i actually dont'k know the better wa= y > to connect them. > Maybe a sw like live or cubase or logic could resolve the problem bt...is > the simplest way? > Have you opinions about that? > T.I.A. > > Max Liver > > PS Rick... don't give up! ;-) > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 20:16:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69F753BE78; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:16:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bjJL/uthaia60zCn7KaW3dHnKyX168mprFS2ovqVMu4=; b=t1g8t87SHgoC4q0PJp8nN/Y67fgE5aYnT7zalhXaaC6fEbZHk/n1/avTRxDR3Svp8O gNCcKxhlJr7OoZX3ps+h0tb/lqV12TlxrmhMRzIEcvMCau9AkYvFqTqxWmyBudoFgjFW mAR9RdrJ4JcMUFl/02TT58RaxYQCKHHGvc12E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PJ3EI44n8IJHPhpvSr/DZolVqe9YyYjI11krJRz8JI0LxlRdac6kCUOBZZstIk18CV pbnva41LMMnKn5IxmJQGwbyoaVKnzGelZle07MXq0W8TAdG8ONf9Bf0FZA7cz3h6iSTc oMbAUtYRUcvkPuCG8tcInCCCWHi9QpLmI4cUI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A65E24C.904@het.it> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:16:27 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to use moebius and guitar rig together From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:16:29 +0000 (UTC) yes. run gr + mobius plugin vesions in a host app: ableton live, plogue bidule, mainstage, numerology. simpler or more live-oriented hosts than using a full daw like cubase or logic. 2009/7/21, Mark Sottilaro : > You'll need an application called a "host" to do this. Luckily your > Macbook came with one for free called Garageband. I've not used it > much, but I think it should be fairly simple to load them up as > plug-ins and make it happen. I personally like Ableton's Live for > this, but there are plenty of apps that'll more or less get you there. > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Massimo Liverani H&T > wrote: >> Hi to all the loopers! >> As ou know i'm a newbie here, although i play live looping from many yea= rs >> using simple instruments... >> But let's go to the question: >> I got a new macbook with OSX 10.5 and and recently i decided to use it f= or >> looping. >> I play guitars and other instruments like air synths theremins etc. >> I dwnld moebius and i started playing it helped with my FCB1010 and it >> works >> well. >> But i'd like to =A0expand possibilities using other stuff that could me >> avoid >> to use external multieffects etc etc >> and i decided to use guitar rig, but i actually dont'k know the better w= ay >> to connect them. >> Maybe a sw like live or cubase or logic could resolve the problem bt...i= s >> the simplest way? >> Have you opinions about that? >> T.I.A. >> >> Max Liver >> >> PS Rick... don't give up! ;-) >> >> >> > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 20:40:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23E583BE79; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8GQKMjP10dhxn1TWlQtX4FZHCabupac7HrarexokUKU=; b=loQMPFyhYU2rnsFx/gATr/0elj4AVbPQlv1y15he0mjtJnYJldnn0HHjpPqrV1aPDS QL4dbqXhpYTDfPNHiV0E1XsvJFRUSP9AlXV5ReKhKTT2yUWYH7Z9DnlKTXyBXO/Jc7gC +KMQdTc4vPtsh7WgkBzjf2fCfV+uGX0zu5UxM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oEK7iyABMxHWbrBSEVHWai+qcw/56cdXaSdbkv1tt4vcJNRRHz6JoVw+cu5VaNBHbC VZB6zN+9tkc39/V3zTan0Y+GeNkKRq5gxHVvMFBcbRPT4jxemmTC4wSomsZ6t6jQ4uWC IEh77ruVFQ/A2JEk12s1puMpcdG+gDcy1yx/g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907210425t632958f5h4461ea66779fefbb@mail.gmail.com> References: <6415FB97-0AC4-4192-BD2C-ECCA31DB3263@earthlink.net> <66f9cc1e0907181446s979d6c7jfd27a6fc41699227@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907210425t632958f5h4461ea66779fefbb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:40:40 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_Cool_MacUpdate_Audio_Promo_this_weekend=85?= From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9h1eoB.A.i1F.JfiZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:40:42 +0000 (UTC) You should name your next album "Screaming Tekno Pig Unleashed in a Safe Studio Area" On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:25 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Twin2 also too CPU demanding for the stage but > an awesome Screaming Tekno Pig to unleash in a safe studio area. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 20:59:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 250F33BE77; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:59:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 409 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:59:54 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=XhXoSxIgxCaPcPD9x7Smvr+lUW19vfP9s9PjRMlDXFQ=; b=OBNhNbsHMeA5BJnTfBH8OEmnZDL2gnTZi5/T5m8kqPJjSChCErBTwmyg/AvR3Ws3gB geqCSzYvItoW/T7D2Hvdll3XtFpVKcXJJi8tEc0qjPmzVxss4W2h2Nt0PgFhkDwG+OJ1 +VMzM4Q/2dvmuzWmXY+eohYV2nf9OFw31/PIY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=DII1Pq0q+zIR4r2HxtmOxW9AMOVnf3qFDoaV65dfZAaP7ePyEDyO0bmioEd+Cebjp5 5HrNOym3iOQhpIu4m+QTr1SX7lZ16AG0y9Hq/osTT/chN5BkzRx2LTRkRdwNLHqZ2dWh ZQvgnGg4xNFSyLisvcocZtiwVfZZRVjnHG3B8= Message-Id: From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_Cool_MacUpdate_Audio_Promo_this_weekend=85?= Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:52:41 -0300 References: <6415FB97-0AC4-4192-BD2C-ECCA31DB3263@earthlink.net> <66f9cc1e0907181446s979d6c7jfd27a6fc41699227@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907210425t632958f5h4461ea66779fefbb@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:59:55 +0000 (UTC) LOL ! On 21 Jul 2009, at 17:40, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > You should name your next album "Screaming Tekno Pig Unleashed in a > Safe Studio Area" > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:25 AM, Per Boysen > wrote: >> Twin2 also too CPU demanding for the stage but >> an awesome Screaming Tekno Pig to unleash in a safe studio area. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 21:15:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D513C3BE77; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:15:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-UOL-TAGLINE: true X-UNTD-OriginStamp: 9EhR0pLz6z7HAVtWp9vSB92RF1kDxVStR5bmkB0L/OY= X-Originating-IP: [74.162.173.35] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "qrd@juno.com" Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:13:43 GMT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Post Rock/Indie Ambient/Looper Shows in NC/SC/VA/GA X-Mailer: Webmail Version 6.1_P2 Message-Id: <20090721.171343.4000.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-ContentStamp: 14:7:2781726999 X-MAIL-INFO:446508fc086d00080c216d8d1df80d256c8d5d786c0df189c5f9c5cc552d31355835757c35adb97528a9ec21a54c8dfc7965a8653c41eddc8848dc61c84861c9c8714d91413d28853db931bc3175dca818f809051895c1d5786c78e9e5e9b14579b179296d1838f1f8697148698959a1cc0c688ca17de12ccd2c31edb88575ed85ed75288cb145017de5fc4c4579190c4cf9d16d493c3125a12139a549f93199b839819de1edadb8f15811bc X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.181.12.144|webmail04.vgs.untd.com|outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com|qrd@juno.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:15:36 +0000 (UTC) A few indie ambient/post-rock shows coming up for loopers PD Wilder ( ww= w.myspace.com/pdwilder ) & Remora ( www.myspace.com/remora ) = hrt Brian John Mitchell July 23, 2009 09:00 PM - the basement @ crazy j=92s = 819 main street, myrtle beach, South Carolina 29577 - p. d. wilder with remora + electric bird noise + michael wood @ the base= ment, downstairs @ crazy j=92s. 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Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsM48sk2iQjUNJ9zoDwHDWw= 3jbIsHQlTcDzi3SMdGATb1bUvbc5Vqo/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 21:43:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E9003BE77; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0+CHKMXpWkxOj2Z50gSuKoUn6joXsEMjerjG61964Bg=; b=oNmeNhR6U7RjhuleeSd4J/RQcrFqq5F3M3Eb4pyts3NgcNCrLoFxHiecLQKmiR0hAm plXIxWYyKJLAb/8DwoGv1I8lpreYeBojzgmZ1oWIepNAZx/5gmRNBg1Q3RpfaQWvbLg/ KjM3H170mHn2KwI/G+eHYpcpFLFHXDFi9a++Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=E6x7YWnpw/1WTKvKVE8ol8MeO+mQkwiz9FcqHlZTzrcrzI0JAJ4oYzIsjflpqin5dN e0S0f1VRk5KwfEqj7ofBSTz098NKkUauhWJiLPrsSRVd9cFLrpYBQh1JcGbqQcM/Eoyl 4lRKzFEvpWU8BnoxgckB99i6y8gk2NTDYiyww= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:43:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Loopers forum.. From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:43:06 +0000 (UTC) So the other day I find out there's this: http://loopingmusic.proboards.com/ I'd been wanting something like that for years! Is there a reason that there's no link on the LD webpage? Judging by the success of forums like KVRaudio.com I think something like this forum could really appeal to people like me that prefer their loopchat in a forum form. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 21:49:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 661D23BE77; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=F2GurJWMYVYwMflnbF5rLU82Y5XSDEy34sffhXzS4Zs=; b=nnf7K6CozZ0IyAnPFEQpjHtiUYAHPr4u/7Gngr0FFiiHYZTk8l/GSOpU/ehaacCOmK hbaPDKTxjA6/Vf49QuR+0QhqliU9uHfpyaHNy7MqM7sQ/8Y1P5T1TsokumM/SNlV9pNf oPewfQ/V/wRaWn1p71xe+QJBELA2xotsZDqlI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UXfz9brmdAK+FBb0gc6chEsUmhlCzhluOteiY7KyfxhlxjcLeOVsaqA5THshhUbWad AXrWN4a1sZpQ8WJjTtxxv1K/VoHO3hCnVf8AnzKUUYAub3lLNRYzs1ox2qx0/xyxaxnk 7srlmgbZrkjTTMWA4trBOtpNZODbtqfVr55n8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <6415FB97-0AC4-4192-BD2C-ECCA31DB3263@earthlink.net> <66f9cc1e0907181446s979d6c7jfd27a6fc41699227@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907210425t632958f5h4461ea66779fefbb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:49:28 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907211449n4178be20ve2c20d91f2f659b9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Cool_MacUpdate_Audio_Promo_this_weekend=E2=80=A6?= From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:49:35 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > You should name your next album "Screaming Tekno Pig Unleashed in a > Safe Studio Area" No, I'm not that keen on dwelling in studio areas. Not even with such a nice pet around ;-)) You can have that title, Mark, if you are making an album. I know you love studio magic! Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 21:53:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F9903BE7C; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=DKXFM+5kfGqhvDX01PDidMSEHryN8CIaFlNE00E1wRE=; b=J99KQmmN/6tOJsVPsN78pKewavxRy3hdCafZMDWM6hCwAV53ht1H3yYeih3bUeHfPD UAgGi4W2+4pkl+p6qTojehx0phyDgminzr0svHSMF39gQ1OvLQQOjPMVrXC36CJfVM5x G3LRqrDd0VcGQRwp+oDyWIR4idM5pmX2rk0Lk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=EwSBgs2OLLgZ5nIW5jiZ6YmOBbee0ELI+nBm5Uwkc5PYeFvPBMJZw8BMbxTD22AEh5 rNJUsler/10PxOxyqz1fa4F1meyOoebpnx+zGM/JFudid1A7DpPUpNYrcoaZS0vowRAi 0zzIDov4ak/khAvEtH1ZstDyaiLwxJp8eCAjM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:52:56 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d220ae019fd397aa Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907211452r284ed54cx67268aaf009a7732@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Loopers forum.. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3c08280b04046f3e4841 Resent-Message-ID: <_uX6mD.A.2H.OjjZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:53:18 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c3c08280b04046f3e4841 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Im not sure that anything on the LD webpage has been updated for years... but the forum has been mentioned on this list alot.. funny you missed it!! On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > So the other day I find out there's this: > > http://loopingmusic.proboards.com/ > > I'd been wanting something like that for years! > > Is there a reason that there's no link on the LD webpage? Judging by > the success of forums like KVRaudio.com I think something like this > forum could really appeal to people like me that prefer their loopchat > in a forum form. > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c3c08280b04046f3e4841 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im not sure that anything on the LD webpage has been updated for years... b= ut the forum has been mentioned on this list alot.. funny you missed it!! <= br>
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--0015174c3c08280b04046f3e4841-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 21:58:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E96B3BE79; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1OvKuW8Mm2c4m06H95rFYcXD7yNQ9PF4BTD6WDifpTA=; b=t+d7ZfXWezjBlYCqNpLCqNp4UBjNFIKKmZ0CZZAWvimRQFyjaf9XXLs7qqo+pTUfae i256/4js6C/X5n4LmBIA43eQWFUQifvN+yrUoaNL1AB7zjIVQ3ATz/3PYUtuwiXkjVri TFbn8RY83DHEwCJRXy1b2RDE3d/P3nFBIfirk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nKdfnQY6hixD2KMysAN28UDKk2x8qgmoNJUknXEkTX2B38HGHWfQ++5bmu5+iRwCBH FsJPg/o0OHlz/I3T/XO5Xai11oBEqbfY+XBBXj2ej3raRHd6kWbX/cHLBHkw1m77ZYOZ 5k73jsYD+ZpG36i5w3IZ/cm7/WvX6PCaHcEMg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30907210753m1934931sed33996b7417ec6@mail.gmail.com> References: <2AC8D7DD-D1E7-49F8-AFDA-3AEA7D684AFA@charter.net> <20090721115732.297040@gmx.net> <3fa302e30907210753m1934931sed33996b7417ec6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:50:31 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: why we founded this list From: Travis Hartnett To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e207d531576046f3e3e78 Resent-Message-ID: <-4CuZC.A.XS._njZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:58:23 +0000 (UTC) --0016368e207d531576046f3e3e78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ah, the annual "Hey, why isn't this mailing list a forum?!!!" thread. TH --0016368e207d531576046f3e3e78 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ah, the annual "Hey, why isn't this mailing list a forum?!!!" thread.

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--0016368e207d531576046f3e3e78-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 22:04:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CA863BE77; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=ssyZFQW/LvGXE1fooPGcNR08dg6UYiTCTS1AYtk1EYo=; b=nsVNk1A9QSpSM6CUvHqK+TEPZfjMR+inSBvFwQ4bfjI8r/p3XuaFFmzFlWIj8/5iqt YdvhPXhUcqq8SiLhwbSlRwhxqPBF669vtPK5UAs2QmaSPZWdX0FoS1phZ4twn06Xx1tx CvGPmjxLESmu954f/7etxnXpUYsdMe8gP4Or8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=HuXC6SaJpvDV9nGr6grDr2DwXdCoHxM+Vf+lYFyMLBq+mBB+QjPw5owcj/n2fDURIu Cw/mvyJsfw44bsh6P2ZYpBBpggpT3BNoxk8pzf/cgp9d4Il/u320nONmsRJyDTrN2i3A bKkXjDPovnjRWhBAAXuWnhxrWIXWoxdXnQQ70= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <2AC8D7DD-D1E7-49F8-AFDA-3AEA7D684AFA@charter.net> <20090721115732.297040@gmx.net> <3fa302e30907210753m1934931sed33996b7417ec6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: topu lyo Subject: Echoplex dying :: NEED HELP ~ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:03:32 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Hey everyone! i hope everyone is having a fantastic tuesday. so i was getting ready for a rehearsal for a few shows this weekend and my echoplex will load up and then the numbers keep flashing across the screen. every so often it will settle down and look normal, and then when i hit my midi pedal it will just make the numbers flash across the screen again! if anyone has any help or info please call me 347.683.5752 or hit me back here! thx so much in advance. topu From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 22:51:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D95D3BE7E; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject :date:x-mailer; bh=mMbcxemZfFK5EtwRz6LR0fjaCrvy1W2JEQ+A4jooU2Y=; b=JsAy36ONghR5XXV5F2ZLCb9t5yzUmBKHCJxxtK4WuKfvGzhXtDNhcDwgyUh2kTAell AdArfx6FFhW3ekntaBily73Pi1jrV3cnQ7dctRFR1WKRN5v7X06h6/9jVTslpQe3OD9Y jKrMzl+AJqt7V3juirmb7eKEE1w++cHzlPvyw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to :from:subject:date:x-mailer; b=TETfyo3n4rbKFrGPB7bODzs1Dq69XvgeVAAZQFGmwUg8HeflzMUedYPJkfgskG4OAw Lm0G4vO1H1G4ksfQpsHo1bzzwt3fpYr6Cok1w/BoMEAu29hO7VspzCsLxxGgXiTp1ysb nKuoqXu1sIgjEcWO36e79SMY4X8TPW9wPZ+iU= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9B1E5FDB-8B3E-4D41-A8A0-8DC0166103CC@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: topu lyo Subject: EDP : does anyone know EDP doctors in NYC???? Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:50:37 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:51:33 +0000 (UTC) sorry for the frequent use of loopers but i am in a quagmire. if anyone knows of edp sellers in the nyc area, or anyone who might be able to fix or diagnose my machine i woudl so so so greatly be appreciative.... topu myspace.com/livefootagebrooklyn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 22:54:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBADB3BE77; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jTPH0zGKCMr1MIr/AUaz+Mmxi1bHL2zyvh/wz+s7NGM=; b=ENkcqa5X4zeWp5QRVU2qmJMRCk+6bzE2u6DE7fie/JwQD/9YsncgzohagH3ZOFy8bD skwomeFGWQPdAfxODbpIYngLACfc3rfmQxWwpD9uSAiaQhnpU5scXKM6RQKcOrEie9xP D/mSRSRI37o4/vCQz7j1Lbwki6aZB5l7KkSxQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H6klA3jvxy7AN8pSNp4A3799XpyjOEPL2LTVVXXLplwbeYMU0NhQjsF2cIKaG5Qi0w Us90UTq9Yu2GD/TJnNIfLv0eLJHJzPGS6sfdXrYtd4UrCiC7kjBgssoe4WnXdakFdS8g MS+uabcJ73Ha572e9La6d29e9plyaMOM40BMo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907211452r284ed54cx67268aaf009a7732@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0907211452r284ed54cx67268aaf009a7732@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:54:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loopers forum.. From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:54:24 +0000 (UTC) checked if i was a registered user and found two entries... should remove one. 2009/7/21, mark francombe : > Im not sure that anything on the LD webpage has been updated for years... > but the forum has been mentioned on this list alot.. funny you missed it!! > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Mark Sottilaro > wrote: > >> So the other day I find out there's this: >> >> http://loopingmusic.proboards.com/ >> >> I'd been wanting something like that for years! >> >> Is there a reason that there's no link on the LD webpage? Judging by >> the success of forums like KVRaudio.com I think something like this >> forum could really appeal to people like me that prefer their loopchat >> in a forum form. >> >> > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 23:03:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD7D13BE7E; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [64.231.160.31] X-Originating-Email: [vaneyck@sympatico.ca] Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:03:39 -0400 From: Trevor Van Eyck User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Uptown Flash 4x1 manual References: <4A65DA45.4090200@post.cybercity.dk> <000e01ca0a1d$a4b95860$7c862245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A65ECE7.5090000@post.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: <4A65ECE7.5090000@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jul 2009 23:03:40.0898 (UTC) FILETIME=[7CFEB420:01CA0A57] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:03:41 +0000 (UTC) It's 86 pages... Since I only have an old (very slow) flatbed scanner, it would be easier to photocopy it and drop it in the mail. PM me with your address if you want to go that route... TREVOR. van Sinn wrote: > Trevor Van Eyck wrote: > > > > I do - it's not a digital copy though... > > How many pages? Is a scan job possible? > > > > Warren Sirota wrote: > > omg, haven't heard of that one in a long time. you using it, Van? > > Not yet, considering. I have an offer two of those. Not really sure.. > > I might decide to mod an old Scholz Octopussy (9½" box) with eight > on/off switches into an analog switcher/router to have maybe six > routings and two on/off switches. > > > > Jeff Duke wrote: >> Tough one, I did find this: >> >> http://facstaff.uww.edu/craggsj/uptown.html >> >> Only the Great Divide and maybe the email will work, i didn't try it. >> >> Jeff > > Yeah, I know about the link ;) but alas, alach, no 4x1 manual it seems. > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "van Sinn" >> >> To: "Loopers-Delight" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:09 AM >> Subject: Uptown Flash 4x1 manual >> >> >>> Anyone happen to have a manual for an Uptown Flash 4x1 switcher unit? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> rgds, >>> van Sinn >>> >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 23:40:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E9573BE79; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1ixPWf6ew2mvRrboJt84tybVpxlRc1P0LQbrhA4o730=; b=Mpkqx1+QLms9LCt0TANzFK84aR9k45j/nA3Z4q3zxIijxA2WPyubSSikBQbRAC2/f8 5rXEtrM3sYAxQjXmAaVhr8/hH9ZqVsNmtu2Vqb3Q2zXT9aTd1i7+bTgBJgY3pongCF/l UYhduBDaBbvLDc/dyXRDDcVPEr/KgiOtP+dzo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=FP3w+Wv7gmhykerfQgMXNXO+M60Qj1Uu20g7n20S5+MXATrTkxsRWy9JvarQI54dSi Z4w3DbHOwC7uaKkZ3Wq1DyscCqpA/9tWfYdoptF4A9stp8jspJGhpck5v3PC7DJ8ZuK3 rEm2CM5h+VYWgZrsjRFuAdGQQHVJf0deihjtg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <4A65E24C.904@het.it> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:40:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to use moebius and guitar rig together From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db61cab41832046f3fc80c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:40:49 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db61cab41832046f3fc80c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit you could also run both as standalones and route the audio from one to the other with Jack - http://jackaudio.org/ sim --0016e6db61cab41832046f3fc80c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit you could also run both as standalones and route the audio from one to the other with Jack - http://jackaudio.org/

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--0016e6db61cab41832046f3fc80c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 23:54:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 632BE3BE79; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IBYCSquOyLQFyExLd7n2EpSczU3LBgqgq4LvsNYMTOw=; b=AYtKP7mhm30t4KDnuPdXBRyEPLRUtxic5JHjRzXZ/EaL7OTBKT7ULPCJsUuZMcLIs4 LsOS2OOJEcgqwonD6iOOlQz7TyfFiAHw49bF0wh5QtiZwRZ6xN/YzICZKGH1himV3GMz ZuRVBD7EuqukimN/gSutvYmOK4+Jz60RSuoDQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DOfsl4f4avsOOBd79b8Ffa9B0xhYtqE9JmTdvSayk7gssVo7PZOtj/j2RO0gSq984n HiHXwS+lIZGNNtv+MRP2IBXe91dv3pbCXrdIPJqoeIAtxaILY6T92JocogoI8TNmCg8A ap28++M/RqOs/W1UyK60iJkKsiCUlXy+VRwMA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A65E24C.904@het.it> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:54:23 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907211654o33095aadoa120fa9c7494427e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: How to use moebius and guitar rig together From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5yQn4.A.IpE.wUlZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:54:24 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > you could also run both as standalones and route the audio from one to the > other with Jack - http://jackaudio.org/ Or by physical cabling to get a steady latency that can be properly compensated in Mobius. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 23:58:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB7563BE80; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:58:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 309 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:58:10 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=FZWC30Gn85rbnI+bBWNzg7SzrBpBn5MdPRlFL1RbWO4=; b=RuQ01I7Rbv9XveVmzsD7G8tmeHt0fbr3z6dyoAWgVxYjX1NuBnhQ9MawAsMi73lgQe mZJLjufMu1tyzrd1M3QmZme9qmu8Po0xbLWxwiyQJCORYqFVFwY0nBQxoV4d4gf9ynH3 Sbj/oiZsVcoIjPEiZZqcDo1XDnuyD0is9q9FM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=V/5/ugOeh5jfo8Vh++j0PhSYS/jlF67dVm/Bn26cio/s3oEQTpin499MZvQOD2wEGf iSIKhVeg2Rer3e9WTNEIbIK3pBj0GQUKs0fZgglFlQw2oebIsxmT8FjIi/EMtm08H3ZS 46WsHs8HnDq76YGJBnX3rFToBszASiqRgYhps= Message-Id: <96582D16-7FAD-467D-865A-C133F84B4E22@gmail.com> From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A65E24C.904@het.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: How to use moebius and guitar rig together Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:52:49 -0300 References: <4A65E24C.904@het.it> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:58:10 +0000 (UTC) For me, what it works best without any proper "DAW" it's AU Lab wich =20 you already have inside Developer Tools on your installation DVD. You could avoid installing the complete Developer package by using =20 Pacifist to extract just the app you need. Very best, Ariel. El 21/07/2009, a las 12:44, Massimo Liverani H&T escribi=F3: > Hi to all the loopers! > As ou know i'm a newbie here, although i play live looping from many =20= > years using simple instruments... > But let's go to the question: > I got a new macbook with OSX 10.5 and and recently i decided to use =20= > it for looping. > I play guitars and other instruments like air synths theremins etc. > I dwnld moebius and i started playing it helped with my FCB1010 and =20= > it works well. > But i'd like to expand possibilities using other stuff that could =20 > me avoid to use external multieffects etc etc > and i decided to use guitar rig, but i actually dont'k know the =20 > better way to connect them. > Maybe a sw like live or cubase or logic could resolve the problem =20 > bt...is the simplest way? > Have you opinions about that? > T.I.A. > > Max Liver > > PS Rick... don't give up! ;-) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 00:12:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6B103BE7F; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Rcjcn18SPKK5j/vKtAb6OTZx9sG0HJJyHnhP4E+BPhk=; b=Fy+c3aOnl96YUyQMt3knVmtANvEFHqNCgqUEHZXMh4aloQgWcI/Kl4mpqv6RoK+zOy aW5x8fAGoiMd6S7Mq0UZQp3Y7H44Kl8w5x8hwo3SwM3HCy2r/mwl0P9kzADCqKSR9loK 4+H6wkHWo0DvJfR9yc/LOPTKvaUi/SMeubR1E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vc8LpgTXFnP9lDFqXNL5N067/kd2QPMDzYq36xpnWBqGs6DIDqGB4G4jEEx7Sf0wo9 FrErMDapALRwHlDWYj/LYNF2X8FI+RLpQZ9X0/BCnQ/LnCOiiirUwXDWHWRe2q6DZSh4 g4wM3Wjt3gPUD3YiI4Vq3LVMn9Mdz2zWPknkc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2AC8D7DD-D1E7-49F8-AFDA-3AEA7D684AFA@charter.net> <20090721115732.297040@gmx.net> <3fa302e30907210753m1934931sed33996b7417ec6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:12:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: why we founded this list From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:12:43 +0000 (UTC) I like to time it with the blooming of daffodils. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > Ah, the annual "Hey, why isn't this mailing list a forum?!!!" thread. > TH > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 00:14:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56A303BE78; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:14:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YSAC9cvh0k4ZFIo7eSTrI6z55C5C6lV9/Cl+R+faSEY=; b=acC/h15gNlxXI3TFJ/8HZP7xnu75g046/1ZRwlFHvsdZQomfGhjC5Z8Qic3N0L+aFm zhvDYuYEfc47QoYh9U/EKEhEIPd9h8xppKAAqQQfF4+KggKUu2YTO0tw06z1HNJBF6xq 2c/Kv2eva7B6aCL0ubZju8bPhq3mSO2MUuVaE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=g5b0Vnx9eivuaMdO3SN6OcG2tMp3cAIZmbvsQlX8wLLYh2tMLQq0Ya5ShR9oDwmK7l vpl/7LpQVkaMZ7ZdBS1QJKpvwi8raC9iiq7HDu0uKu/B2iVcsuYbmNlfq845RYc6Y4dx yu4A1lVEROThpnoEt588d0Soy/PBVMrkdhKRk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <96582D16-7FAD-467D-865A-C133F84B4E22@gmail.com> References: <4A65E24C.904@het.it> <96582D16-7FAD-467D-865A-C133F84B4E22@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:14:00 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907211714m4f60ffcdn106bef638868f9c1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: How to use moebius and guitar rig together From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:14:01 +0000 (UTC) Interresting! So AU Lab is working well for you, Ariel? It is in fact a "miniature Logic" provided developers that create AU plug-ins and need to test functionalities in a simple host. But if you are looking at the routing options in AU Lab it is quite advanced. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Ariel Rzezak wrote: > For me, what it works best without any proper "DAW" it's AU Lab wich you > already have inside Developer Tools on your installation DVD. > > You could avoid installing the complete Developer package by using Pacifist > to extract just the app you need. > > Very best, Ariel. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 00:22:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F0B53BE7C; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:22:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:22:42 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:22:48 +0000 (UTC) I'm just loving a few things that I'm listening to right now and not only wanted to share them with you all but wanted to know what people are currently listening to. 1) When I was in Zurich, I got the chance to go see Nik Bartsch's RONIN play at their legendary 'Montags' shows (with a really nice opening solo looping set by our own Bernhard Wagner). I was just blown away. It's the best live instrumental music I've seen in a very long time. Minimal, textural compositions/improvisations exploring the realms of polyrhythms and odd time signatures. Every member of his ensemble firing on all cylinders (bass and contrabass clarinet. innovative percussion, fretless 6 string bass and traspset) all mixing with Nik's amazing grand piano/prepared acoustic piano/ electric piano improvisations. Two fisted on two instruments he was playing simultaneously in two different time signatures in waves of acoustic 'loops' that cycled to and from each other. The sound was amazing to boot. They record every night so they have the sound in this venue dialed in. Nik Bartsch's RONIN ---- 'Holon' just doesn't leave my car stereo for very long. I'm in love and it's also inspiring because this music is just made for live looping experiments (as Bernhard's lovely and funky set in Rome and Zurich proved. 2) All day (and as I type) I've been listening to the lovely new John Hassell CD , "Last Night the Moon Came Dropping its Clothes in the Street" . This record is as good as any past Hassell records and that says volumes as he has a half dozen that are in my top 50 list of favorite CDs of all times. It is beautiful, haunting, melancholy, foreign and even alien sounding and as intelligent as it gets for a close to ambient record. And thanks, Massimo, for hipping me to this little gem. 3) Just recently I discovered the music of the superlative and creative jazz drummer/composer Brian Blade so I've purchased both of his jazz CDs with Brian Blade and the Fellowship. In the past I've tended to avoid drummer led jazz projects (a horrid prejudice since I'm a writing drummer) but Blade completely avoids having his records sound like vehicles for drumming. He's a really good writer and these are as good as any recent releases in jazz. Then when I heard that he was also writing singer songwriter material I was, again, skeptical. Brian Blade "Mama Rosa" is just a revelation! He has written a beautiful melancholy meditation on growing up. He has a lovely voice. The songs are really well written. His chordal vocabulary is sophisticated so the record is really interesting but it doesn't sound sophisticated. It's just simply put, lovely. 4) Chris and I are driving down to Los Angeles (500km) to see the British pop band, Elbow's only west coast appearance. There first three CDs are fantastic and incredibly inventive. The production is a marvel, full of fascinating timbral choices of traditional instruments, found sounds and electronics. Imagine if a band with the stylistic scope of the Beatles were playing in the Naughties only further north in England and with a decidedly darker/moodier and more melancholic vibe. Elbow "Asleep in the Back' Elbow "One of Thousands' Elbow "Leaders of the Free World" (which I'd start with first, it's there third) I'm actually not as enamored of their latest release but it doesn't matter because the first three are so good. 5) Then I sit not 100 feet away from the window of my brother's studio. He's writing, recording and developing material for his new CD. For having played frequently with someone for a very long time, I"m always amazed that every couple of days I hear music come out of his studio (and it wafts through our compound on these hot summer days when the windows are open) that is beautiful thought provoking and which has me constantly asking him, "how did you do that". I promote and demonstrate the Looperlative LP-1 but Bill is just becoming a master at using it and leaves me far in the dust in terms of his creative depth in using it. It's not out yet and I'd probably get one free for being family, but I"m gonna buy this sucker when it gets released. Bill Walker "As Yet Untitled" What are you guys and gals listening too? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 00:30:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25E6C3BE80; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:30:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090721190629.sie62vnwdco00kg8@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:06:29 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable References: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:30:37 +0000 (UTC) Tinariwen... Bajofondo.. and Buraka Som Sistema... Quoting Rick Walker : > I'm just loving a few things that I'm listening to right now > and not only wanted to share them with you all but wanted > to know what people are currently listening to. > > 1) When I was in Zurich, I got the chance to go see > Nik Bartsch's RONIN play at their legendary 'Montags' > shows (with a really nice opening solo looping set > by our own Bernhard Wagner). > I was just blown away. It's the best live instrumental > music I've seen in a very long time. Minimal, textural > compositions/improvisations exploring the realms of > polyrhythms and odd time signatures. Every member of his > ensemble firing on all cylinders (bass and contrabass clarinet. > innovative percussion, fretless 6 string bass and traspset) all > mixing with Nik's amazing grand piano/prepared acoustic piano/ > electric piano improvisations. Two fisted on two instruments he > was playing simultaneously in two different time signatures in > waves of acoustic 'loops' that cycled to and from each other. > The sound was amazing to boot. They record every night > so they have the sound in this venue dialed in. > > Nik Bartsch's RONIN ---- 'Holon' just doesn't leave my car stereo for > very long. I'm in love and it's also inspiring because > this music is just made for live looping experiments (as Bernhard's lovely > and funky set in Rome and Zurich proved. 2) All day (and as I type) > I've been listening to the lovely new > > John Hassell CD , "Last Night the Moon Came Dropping its Clothes in the > Street" > > . This record is as good as any past Hassell records > and that says volumes as he has a half dozen that are in my top 50 list > of favorite CDs of all times. It is beautiful, haunting, melancholy, fore= ign > and even alien sounding and as intelligent as it gets for a close to > ambient record. And thanks, Massimo, for hipping me to this little > gem. 3) Just recently I discovered the music of the superlative and > creative jazz > drummer/composer Brian Blade so I've purchased both of his jazz CDs > with Brian Blade and the Fellowship. > In the past I've tended to avoid drummer led jazz projects (a horrid =20 > prejudice > since I'm a writing drummer) but Blade completely avoids having his record= s > sound like vehicles for drumming. He's a really good writer and these are= as > good as any recent releases in jazz. > > Then when I heard that he was also writing singer songwriter material I wa= s, > again, skeptical. > > Brian Blade "Mama Rosa" is just a revelation! > > He has written a beautiful melancholy meditation on growing up. He has > a lovely > voice. The songs are really well written. His chordal vocabulary is > sophisticated > so the record is really interesting but it doesn't sound sophisticated. > It's just simply put, lovely. 4) Chris and I are driving down to > Los Angeles (500km) to see the British pop band, Elbow's only west coast > appearance. There first three CDs are fantastic and incredibly > inventive. The production is a marvel, > full of fascinating timbral choices of traditional instruments, found > sounds and electronics. > Imagine if a band with the stylistic scope of the Beatles were playing > in the Naughties only > further north in England and with a decidedly darker/moodier and more > melancholic vibe. > > Elbow "Asleep in the Back' > Elbow "One of Thousands' > Elbow "Leaders of the Free World" (which I'd start with first, > it's there third) > > I'm actually not as enamored of their latest release but it doesn't > matter because the first three are so good. > > 5) Then I sit not 100 feet away from the window of my brother's > studio. He's writing, recording and developing material for his new CD. > For having played frequently > with someone for a very long time, I"m always amazed that every couple > of days I hear music > come out of his studio (and it wafts through our compound on these hot > summer days when > the windows are open) that is beautiful thought provoking and which > has me constantly > asking him, "how did you do that". I promote and demonstrate the > Looperlative LP-1 but Bill is just becoming a master at using it and > leaves me far in the dust > in terms of his creative depth in using it. > It's not out yet and I'd probably get one free for being family, but > I"m gonna buy this > sucker when it gets released. > > Bill Walker "As Yet Untitled" > > > What are you guys and gals listening too? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 00:36:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 229863BE79; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 6399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:36:12 UTC Message-ID: <4A6637D4.6050101@flyloops.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:49:08 -0700 From: Aaron Leese User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers forum.. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Resent-Message-ID: <3yzP6C.A.bfG.97lZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, I know it. I was just over there today as well. Unfortunately, traffic is generally rather low, and some people on this list have been rather against the idea of a looping forum in the past ... not sure why. Also, I think Kim still watches this list, but LD doesn't get updated much. A few more links on there would be great. this one could use a bump too .... great URL, too bad there's not more there. http://www.livelooping.org/ Mark Sottilaro wrote: > So the other day I find out there's this: > > http://loopingmusic.proboards.com/ > > I'd been wanting something like that for years! > > Is there a reason that there's no link on the LD webpage? Judging by > the success of forums like KVRaudio.com I think something like this > forum could really appeal to people like me that prefer their loopchat > in a forum form. > > > From account-pishing@PayPal.com Wed Jul 22 00:36:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4448 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:36:33 UTC Received: from novoazovsk.net (novoazovsk.net [195.184.221.98]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065FD3BE78 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [12.49.216.188] (account postmaster HELO User) by novoazovsk.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTPA id 3463317; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:20:56 +0300 Reply-To: From: "PayPal Account Review Department" Subject: Attention! Your PayPal account was limited! 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mixes with depth? = Any thoughts?

Sales, = your not happy with Apogee, are you refering to Apogee 16x AD/DA or = earlier models? I read greate things about Apogee, but I will check out = Lynx, like you recommanded. 

A = silly question? When Big Ben is intergratet in Apogee 16x, is this a = word clock good enough, or is external the key thing? Is the important = thing a great word clock, or is external = important?

7. = Freeze functions - Ableton (enough power for plugins - making = depth).
Boysen, is it = possible to use freeze functions even when rendering the final mix? I = have to admit - I have come to think I need to buy better reverb unit = then oxford plugins, maybe the tc 6000. Any = thoughts?

<= span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height:16px;">best = regards Rune F.   =  


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= --Apple-Mail-1-776543392-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 13 21:14:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C33C13BE81; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:14:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_16e26f51-ac60-4b76-a0cc-710d21233052_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.208] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: two little guitar loops Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:13:06 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003701ca0202$f5bb6690$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <00a101c9ffee$f5541f00$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A54DA8A.2070401@netcologne.de> <003701ca0202$f5bb6690$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jul 2009 21:13:06.0522 (UTC) FILETIME=[B74B43A0:01CA03FE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:14:29 +0000 (UTC) --_16e26f51-ac60-4b76-a0cc-710d21233052_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sweet.=20 =20 From: mp@mpeters.de To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: two little guitar loops Date: Sat=2C 11 Jul 2009 10:38:21 +0200 for those who haven't listened to it on Facebook: =20 here are two quite different guitar loops that I did on Friday. =20 afternoon: a "plain vanilla" Frippertronics style loop with the usual RF in= spired solo http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/MichaelPeters20090709= .mp3 =20 evening: a more atonal guitar improvisation with Stefan Tiedje doing live t= reatments & loops using his "Ondes Memorielles" Max/MSP system http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/HitchhikersDiary20090= 709.mp3=20 =20 enjoy! =20 -Michael =20 =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync.=20 http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009= --_16e26f51-ac60-4b76-a0cc-710d21233052_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sweet.
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Date: Sat=2C 11 Jul 2009 10:38:21 +0200

for those who haven't listen= ed to it on Facebook: =3B
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Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. = --_16e26f51-ac60-4b76-a0cc-710d21233052_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 14 00:04:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3665B3BE77; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:04:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wvDAb9nCacykfTRWBiYW6LQN8ytdfBCaegplE++mdgs=; b=FlC+6dPOY1fbPdRVhyvmtVFI6UJq2qRfjNPEB9epFSTSVfh1uQmIpE42akV7SarBz7 9K2fj8JOSs7ZwPP/EHEDiG9avZFKTwfH0VdA5zqSjPYeQVMjwLoqWoKqkiKDnncPAioX Ee2HDUFcv72NxTpUPhnnCueXX/vqkDVahYwhA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Hd5K9kZOh4ExHt+ocOhRYwze0Ffy1cji/Ba7ssM6Oged+S+yT1G2zf9Obmf6reWzdy +YxIN4L6HDdfxcpuTHoz/kG74qudt4ylAHgeG0nNn6u2R4jVDRVwgFF1jX+3aSfR/Ic5 ZTgQi7aILR/APXVMz8A47FN9D3ZTsJvHzYXgw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A5BA3B9.8000504@tiscali.co.uk> References: <66f9cc1e0907101144v778df295p3e36893032224f69@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE270FDE1@barq.sailpoint.com> <4A5BA3B9.8000504@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:04:44 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:04:46 +0000 (UTC) It'll have to live in infamy, as I'm told the woman who was in charge of video that night left before my turn. Perhaps you're right Andy, the world may be a better place without it. ;p On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:14 PM, andy butler wrote: > > > Jeff Larson wrote: >>> >>> I got a billion times better response doing a karaoke version of >>> Purple Rain at my wife's company's Christmas party last year >> >> Please tell me there is video. >> >> Jeff >> > > please tell us there isn't :-) > > andy > >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 14 03:10:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C6193BE7C; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:10:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=AjjcOVYC05mV0h7Wq87NECfOeRUSv1IDvxl8KWEoc4g=; b=FE5+CtkSMhnn7N8suWW0kFI2KEj6iXnDUP0TqAfAeLjOgUnLF2AgA5QAchA7SDEZEv IvW/uUCP/sBIOayzsridaTwo8ZO40cncDqTGHIvFB+HcumXOe3ob7+KFnN+4GbEfC/r3 j94gy3cRU3ZAOvBu7oqdrxrglKXKocyDXLXdE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=xxqjkkJ61dFALQSPFcXa7gRnIBQ4g2Aj0ugXA9kf+G1gOM2Mb0Ao3Bdm5hq76DR9b9 W+KLnt+0tm9HEiMDaRS3vJu5eXvCRoPJLe7ENVxxKVycVJc1rpfCZJSUXx2/C/n1cHHc lwN72IDdN7f++gXAqvRU6ydz6GX9k9atbK4z0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:10:39 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907132010xcecab0du71035812690a770e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: Macbook Pro weird internal speaker fix From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a82f7afcd0046ea1c870 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:10:41 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a82f7afcd0046ea1c870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know if any of you using a MBP have run into this but recently my internal speaker ability disappeared including the driver ref in Sys Pref's and the audio out 1/8" port glowed red. I found this wild fix on the net and it worked which suggests it's a sensor tripped out by inserting headphones or some other 1/8" analog audio source no? Thought it worth passing along... Jim *Today, utterly randomly and with no provocation, the built-in speaker output disappeared from my System Preferences on my MacBook Pro and the speakers would no longer work, except for the boot-up chime. All that I could get was digital audio out and the red light coming out of the speaker port. Searching online turned up nothing until the right combination of words led me to **this Apple support message board thread* *. While Apple does not have a solution for this problem and tries replacing the board with the audio port, you can solve the problem by sticking a toothpick or a paperclip into the slot (preferably while the red digital audio light is on) and at around the 5-o-clock position there is some sort of switch or rocker that needs to be gently pushed. There will be a bit of a click. After a few seconds your audio will start working again.* -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a82f7afcd0046ea1c870 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know if any of you using a MBP have run into this but recently = my internal speaker ability disappeared including the driver ref in Sys Pre= f's and the audio out 1/8" port glowed red. =A0I found this wild f= ix on the net and it worked which suggests it's a sensor tripped out by= inserting headphones or some other 1/8" analog audio source no? =A0Th= ought it worth passing along... Jim

Today, utterly r= andomly and with no provocation, the built-in speaker output disappeared fr= om my System Preferences on my MacBook Pro and the speakers would no longer= work, except for the boot-up chime. All that I could get was digital audio= out and the red light coming out of the speaker port. Searching online tur= ned up nothing until the right combination of words led me to=A0this Apple supp= ort message board thread. While Apple does not have a solution f= or this problem and tries replacing the board with the audio port, you can = solve the problem by sticking a toothpick or a paperclip into the slot (pre= ferably while the red digital audio light is on) and at around the 5-o-cloc= k position there is some sort of switch or rocker that needs to be gently p= ushed. There will be a bit of a click. After a few seconds your audio will = start working again.

--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
music links...
www.jimgoo= dinmusic.com
www.china= paintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--001636c5a82f7afcd0046ea1c870-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 14 03:46:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23B3B3BE73; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:46:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 354 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:46:55 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=62QN/nFfQbxtTJPtO3KWMxS8Pj2y+t1BzFuIkSQFIf4=; b=nuv2Q0RH3m4Sd+RQqXOUUvFm4WllaThc7/CJU3ELwn5qaFa/lIbCKCGsi7QDtEKUos JahpFNKV0uKLUMzepwvBXO5jOM5OiEloxzQ5jjeQiUJKo9bnqnNGSxDe2eT5nkI9Enz6 nP7KE77l9uhT88qAFJq87MkVQg2/Lp/biAktc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JgdDiypzRCjJy7xp/0AjIzPpAzdrLvCjNIbbmQ0GSPdr3t1pWCjzvBo09E3NNMcNSK k/7G43YQMH6WB6NO6EyfC4tWWxlmj7YndhFuf7rCUeIrV6m1Tw4VjQ0mSSPxxu5wf6ro Cz+saVApKuCBYCV3vm6e+FWMU1TYxW7U+YNUg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60907132010xcecab0du71035812690a770e@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60907132010xcecab0du71035812690a770e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:41:00 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Macbook Pro weird internal speaker fix From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:46:56 +0000 (UTC) I've come across this type of behavior in a few devices, my iPhone included. Lint and general debris can muck up the little switch and it can't tell if something is plugged into it or not. Happens with my Toshiba laptop sometimes too. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Jim Goodin wrote= : > I don't know if any of you using a MBP have run into this but recently my > internal speaker ability disappeared including the driver ref in Sys Pref= 's > and the audio out 1/8" port glowed red. =A0I found this wild fix on the n= et > and it worked which suggests it's a sensor tripped out by inserting > headphones or some other 1/8" analog audio source no? =A0Thought it worth > passing along... Jim > Today, utterly randomly and with no provocation, the built-in speaker out= put > disappeared from my System Preferences on my MacBook Pro and the speakers > would no longer work, except for the boot-up chime. All that I could get = was > digital audio out and the red light coming out of the speaker port. > Searching online turned up nothing until the right combination of words l= ed > me to=A0this Apple support message board thread. While Apple does not hav= e a > solution for this problem and tries replacing the board with the audio po= rt, > you can solve the problem by sticking a toothpick or a paperclip into the > slot (preferably while the red digital audio light is on) and at around t= he > 5-o-clock position there is some sort of switch or rocker that needs to b= e > gently pushed. There will be a bit of a click. After a few seconds your > audio will start working again. > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 14 03:51:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CED8C3BE7C; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bFjLAE4Dt8xcMZDv4Mf4Z24u2+Vo2aE+0T/6vvKqOn0=; b=FvzEEDH0VGclts3Y8gbkdgNXQdTVWbkRRa9q/IlkpXmzZ2shLPaATnE1TeXP0J2vDq jOSSBiiGzoyrSI0FBG4cCgltUVsBKafaDLmWID6OzroSSTl3Ggt5zYgSKoEBmtr5OR2z mr28pLPmru/GOPg0Gv8L3uVDiMVqLwA4FcS+E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=leOLV4TT3xb8tGUXSgB90BlbxNCoyQq5mEzwpEhRf0mzQOZhkRpgp49AXTZjyimnlG t6q3fvuC6AXwxUVrCOhq2j1ceP6WxjSgdqP1SitlraffEUhwRMukkj7IaG/pNpqjUTQj smBI2PyCUIWz/2Aqq0YQe3emlX9HeR5zfhNB4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9e0440a60907132010xcecab0du71035812690a770e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:51:35 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907132051u66d4b251x9da38022bca428b9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Macbook Pro weird internal speaker fix From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bfb4e39d48046ea25af2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:51:36 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bfb4e39d48046ea25af2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit that's wild though it makes real sense and in one way continues to suggest though i'm a Mac fan that they are 'delicate' to a degree. I figured someone had ran into this... thx Mark On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > I've come across this type of behavior in a few devices, my iPhone > included. Lint and general debris can muck up the little switch and > it can't tell if something is plugged into it or not. Happens with my > Toshiba laptop sometimes too. > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Jim Goodin > wrote: > > I don't know if any of you using a MBP have run into this but recently my > > internal speaker ability disappeared including the driver ref in Sys > Pref's > > and the audio out 1/8" port glowed red. I found this wild fix on the net > > and it worked which suggests it's a sensor tripped out by inserting > > headphones or some other 1/8" analog audio source no? Thought it worth > > passing along... Jim > > Today, utterly randomly and with no provocation, the built-in speaker > output > > disappeared from my System Preferences on my MacBook Pro and the speakers > > would no longer work, except for the boot-up chime. All that I could get > was > > digital audio out and the red light coming out of the speaker port. > > Searching online turned up nothing until the right combination of words > led > > me to this Apple support message board thread. While Apple does not have > a > > solution for this problem and tries replacing the board with the audio > port, > > you can solve the problem by sticking a toothpick or a paperclip into the > > slot (preferably while the red digital audio light is on) and at around > the > > 5-o-clock position there is some sort of switch or rocker that needs to > be > > gently pushed. There will be a bit of a click. After a few seconds your > > audio will start working again. > > > > -- > > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... > > > > music links... > > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > > www.myspace.com/jindream > > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > > > video work/editing... > > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > > > social networking... > > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > > > > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5bfb4e39d48046ea25af2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that's wild though it makes real sense and in one way continues to sugg= est though i'm a Mac fan that they are 'delicate' to a degree. = =A0I figured someone had ran into this... thx Mark

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com>= wrote:
I've come across this type of behavior in a few devices, my iPhone
included. =A0Lint and general debris can muck up the little switch and
it can't tell if something is plugged into it or not. =A0Happens with m= y
Toshiba laptop sometimes too.

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Jim Goodin<jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't know if any of you using a MBP have run into this but rece= ntly my
> internal speaker ability disappeared including the driver ref in Sys P= ref's
> and the audio out 1/8" port glowed red. =A0I found this wild fix = on the net
> and it worked which suggests it's a sensor tripped out by insertin= g
> headphones or some other 1/8" analog audio source no? =A0Thought = it worth
> passing along... Jim
> Today, utterly randomly and with no provocation, the built-in speaker = output
> disappeared from my System Preferences on my MacBook Pro and the speak= ers
> would no longer work, except for the boot-up chime. All that I could g= et was
> digital audio out and the red light coming out of the speaker port. > Searching online turned up nothing until the right combination of word= s led
> me to=A0this Apple support message board thread. While Apple does not = have a
> solution for this problem and tries replacing the board with the audio= port,
> you can solve the problem by sticking a toothpick or a paperclip into = the
> slot (preferably while the red digital audio light is on) and at aroun= d the
> 5-o-clock position there is some sort of switch or rocker that needs t= o be
> gently pushed. There will be a bit of a click. After a few seconds you= r
> audio will start working again.
>
> --
> ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
>
> music links...
> www.jimgoo= dinmusic.com
> www.ch= inapaintingmusic.com
> ww= w.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
> www.mysp= ace.com/jindream
> ww= w.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
> video work/editing...
> ww= w.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital
>
> social networking...
> ww= w.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic
>
>




--
ReUse, an i= ntrospective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com<= br> www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--001636c5bfb4e39d48046ea25af2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 14 04:00:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D5B23BE7C; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RiHvPvXF+uBmMNJTolZKc9ep/ELL+aaPxtymfMc5O40=; b=KOVXxkls/I66K7i9D3nq2RMafHabZkfYS7f6R7+Ku0p7ySl3ob3Pqb7A8OC/m2IaHA JRWFzIFSrjy9tcGbjuhnXvTpqjN4Z8n6d8JwsWinsb+TY1SdptcV98WDmLvBUswd+i0P wPMigxsAbiUENQjcgegn6WdleVjLYps2lzNQ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Bcj/2+w2kadaSCiWmlNca0sI0S0dn/TCd4W4kWigTqNZ9RVuciOLW0LMFgxvHTnvj0 +fChhtnqK2T3RPtpuEZwNuTjF0sxa5yGurNOOqzi78lJvSjRg9NDuWEXtLhmu3yFM/WD 1a0evQgvU0iemv1R5gN3Vh4cxHVDsOekrEzNs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60907132051u66d4b251x9da38022bca428b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60907132010xcecab0du71035812690a770e@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60907132051u66d4b251x9da38022bca428b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:00:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Macbook Pro weird internal speaker fix From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:00:23 +0000 (UTC) I don't know if I'd call Macs any more delicate than your average off the self "let's build it with what ever components are the cheapest this week" PC. I had Macs at a job for 8 years and it was a running joke with the IT guys that I had gone the longest in the company without needing them for anything. Everyone else was on a Dell. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Jim Goodin wrote= : > that's wild though it makes real sense and in one way continues to sugges= t > though i'm a Mac fan that they are 'delicate' to a degree. =A0I figured > someone had ran into this... thx Mark > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Mark Sottilaro > wrote: >> >> I've come across this type of behavior in a few devices, my iPhone >> included. =A0Lint and general debris can muck up the little switch and >> it can't tell if something is plugged into it or not. =A0Happens with my >> Toshiba laptop sometimes too. >> >> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Jim Goodin >> wrote: >> > I don't know if any of you using a MBP have run into this but recently >> > my >> > internal speaker ability disappeared including the driver ref in Sys >> > Pref's >> > and the audio out 1/8" port glowed red. =A0I found this wild fix on th= e >> > net >> > and it worked which suggests it's a sensor tripped out by inserting >> > headphones or some other 1/8" analog audio source no? =A0Thought it wo= rth >> > passing along... Jim >> > Today, utterly randomly and with no provocation, the built-in speaker >> > output >> > disappeared from my System Preferences on my MacBook Pro and the >> > speakers >> > would no longer work, except for the boot-up chime. All that I could g= et >> > was >> > digital audio out and the red light coming out of the speaker port. >> > Searching online turned up nothing until the right combination of word= s >> > led >> > me to=A0this Apple support message board thread. While Apple does not = have >> > a >> > solution for this problem and tries replacing the board with the audio >> > port, >> > you can solve the problem by sticking a toothpick or a paperclip into >> > the >> > slot (preferably while the red digital audio light is on) and at aroun= d >> > the >> > 5-o-clock position there is some sort of switch or rocker that needs t= o >> > be >> > gently pushed. There will be a bit of a click. 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OBAMA'S FOUNDATION From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 14 13:11:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 962D83BE78; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bN4TvcYuZbpD0jYbeWR70LMQBL+yBU3ygTMVIAEgptc=; b=icWNA5yCDwAxHLHH/7aXEtRMgvNc2ahNGvXhZJaIFbfWQjps30UReY6xZE+Mf7ekiK 2kmMQS0HzoLA6wOpXkcM1iz7NujeCpdVCyrgdsFqR9lWYp/1pWAAHzYQEro3eYPkDvzk UZMhw5fEFSAIKSjT0IX5bW2jA2mlM7fq4q/nA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=BqQK7VL6q3gDaHEQcOWTZODwEK7eTDe8F9m0nMcCh10VveIdi0C8xqWWqiOPPQaaU0 AYBPyq09UNI5ZmZedSDsVdOK0Xpoe+ufVhIk9FMEFguyrytUuPwz+Kcu0J02zuQicWaH yPqCzompkiZFwMgmVsWlGcIP1oyX8y5zjSX6I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <9e0440a60907132010xcecab0du71035812690a770e@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60907132051u66d4b251x9da38022bca428b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:11:19 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7faab0cefb2d13b8 Message-ID: <101191640907140611s112ddd68oe894c52833c09b6a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Macbook Pro weird internal speaker fix From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f1dfa170d1046eaa2c08 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:11:22 +0000 (UTC) --00163630f1dfa170d1046eaa2c08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > I don't know if I'd call Macs any more delicate than your average off > the self "let's build it with what ever components are the cheapest > this week" PC. I had Macs at a job for 8 years and it was a running > joke with the IT guys that I had gone the longest in the company > without needing them for anything. Everyone else was on a Dell. > that was my experience with my previous PowerBook G4 Titanium or whatever it was, but not my MacBook. It will be going in shortly for it's 2nd motherboard replacement, due to a failing usb port (first was a failing fw port). I'm tough on my ports, I admit, but all laptops seem to have a design flaw there - if any of the ports go, it takes a new mb to repair. applecare is the saving grace, tho. I think that all laptops need insurance, primarily because of this port thing, but in my experience, the applecare service goes so far beyond anything you'll find from a windows vendor's outsource network that it's a whole different class of service. plus you can call them with any mac question whatsoever and they'll usually answer it, and be nice to you in the process. -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --00163630f1dfa170d1046eaa2c08 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com>= wrote:
I don't know if I'd call Macs any more delicate than your average o= ff
the self "let's build it with what ever components are the cheapes= t
this week" PC. =A0I had Macs at a job for 8 years and it was a running=
joke with the IT guys that I had gone the longest in the company
without needing them for anything. =A0Everyone else was on a Dell.

that was my experience with my previous PowerBook G4 Titanium o= r whatever it was, but not my MacBook. It will be going in shortly for it&#= 39;s 2nd motherboard replacement, due to a failing usb port (first was a fa= iling fw port). I'm tough on my ports, I admit, but all laptops seem to= have a design flaw there - if any of the ports go, it takes a new mb to re= pair.

applecare is the saving grace, tho. I think that all laptops need insur= ance, primarily because of this port thing, but in my experience, the apple= care service goes so far beyond anything you'll find from a windows ven= dor's outsource network that it's a whole different class of servic= e. plus you can call them with any mac question whatsoever and they'll = usually answer it, and be nice to you in the process.



--
Warren
http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D= 6679
http://www.warrensirota= .com
--00163630f1dfa170d1046eaa2c08-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 14 13:42:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59A503BE7C; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1247578924; bh=2vmYbZ7Ae5gYhBAm9exTRxjJnMFvxQpPhkWg7NFlXog=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=SkHnpFRxzPGyONx/v53RDTSwyWrzGmUHImvLJnBri/FxyEQwuumUvPp40uwzarttkMMN4PR0epB9ozGFPm+NhMP4IokXpWzCv0+YXXZL7Jap2HJqxk3yDIHeXLKz0afsvzl3CCkUblxTC/cOdRqUtlKbG+3ApTzz9nDXlkWXoog= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=dnVWKcz/b0mlvoAQwoUvamhbSQjrJXYLiBN8RGJNaH9moiObVUxKZV6UvGdEX0S3mY7ukXn0s2J7+VDJYlIFbNM32POeGmNO07xSZIrWPt8s0TDif1vk81vuw7hNdXbgq118gd7XOqcoxX98iuOmKKjd767ZPXmz4gYg1bDuTW8=; Message-ID: <853900.31718.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:42:04 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: OT: Goodbye my friend (live improv) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:42:06 +0000 (UTC) deep,breathtaking...=0Abless his soul=0Athanx for sharing Sjaak=0A=0Awww.my= space.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Sjaak schrieb am = Fr, 10.7.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Sjaak =0A> Betreff: OT: Goo= dbye my friend (live improv)=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A= > Datum: Freitag, 10. Juli 2009, 15:55=0A> This is a kind of special live= =0A> improv. I recorded it this afternoon and it's=0A> dedicated to a good = friend and musician of mine we lost=0A> this week. We played=0A> together s= everal times, he used soundscapes of mine as an=0A> intro for his=0A> band,= I played with his 2 brothers too, he was a friend for=0A> many people.=0A>= =0A> I'm normally not as "open" on this list but today was a=0A> though da= y and I=0A> felt the need to write a song, dedicate it to Tom and send=0A> = it out.=0A> =0A> http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/20_Goodbye_my_friend= .mp3=0A> =0A> --- =0A> Sjaak=0A> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ =0A> http://eur= oloopfest.com/=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 14 15:07:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4242D3BE7C; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fezdBuDRD/uvKewBfcRWqUUJ+HNwpden/FlVshjztRw=; b=nkc/fa9bcOIU2o5wzKbOdLzu9SKgWOEMuoOjB9xicBDspAdS9tL6vGlXlQ6WlxBwLf P5W2B5G0Jg7wYUx3+XEPDMWK5OIWWY4hN0ID3IDGppcpj/wJYGTil0H74XB1KhjXX5fD 07QimrMY24x7lFB7Bn1ev68U7uge/k8vmhT5M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tvyTzKmjiNrw7bdSNfuHhHE712c+AiTXmZjhLmCU8YnKI19khAFMcLq3SzEdUn8IS8 cGz1KbdkZwhKF5NAhloSQ40n+xRAIDsHDBVyuEyr05RWe/0xgS5O+9CJ1h8bvaxKRwY/ +QyFM5SCiev48PzIDTkfoD97JPGKpPj8fMXLk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640907140611s112ddd68oe894c52833c09b6a@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60907132010xcecab0du71035812690a770e@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60907132051u66d4b251x9da38022bca428b9@mail.gmail.com> <101191640907140611s112ddd68oe894c52833c09b6a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:07:44 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Macbook Pro weird internal speaker fix From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:07:46 +0000 (UTC) I'll agree with you there. The MacBooks are a definite step down in quality from the old Powerbooks and probably from the new MacBook Pros as well. I guess Apple had to make sacrifices to hit that price point. It's one of the reasons I ended up with a Toshiba laptop. Not that it's amazing or anything but at the lower price point there's not much of a difference and with the addition of having to buy XP so I could run Mobius (at the time there was no Mac port) it ended up looking like a drop in quality from the Pros and a higher overall cost. The Macbook we have is doing well, but it's my wife's and doesn't get much wear and tear. I think that's what it was designed to be: cute, easy to use but not a serious computer for someone who's using it for live music. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Warren Sirota wrote= : > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Mark Sottilaro > wrote: >> >> I don't know if I'd call Macs any more delicate than your average off >> the self "let's build it with what ever components are the cheapest >> this week" PC. =A0I had Macs at a job for 8 years and it was a running >> joke with the IT guys that I had gone the longest in the company >> without needing them for anything. =A0Everyone else was on a Dell. > > that was my experience with my previous PowerBook G4 Titanium or whatever= it > was, but not my MacBook. It will be going in shortly for it's 2nd > motherboard replacement, due to a failing usb port (first was a failing f= w > port). I'm tough on my ports, I admit, but all laptops seem to have a des= ign > flaw there - if any of the ports go, it takes a new mb to repair. > > applecare is the saving grace, tho. I think that all laptops need insuran= ce, > primarily because of this port thing, but in my experience, the applecare > service goes so far beyond anything you'll find from a windows vendor's > outsource network that it's a whole different class of service. plus you = can > call them with any mac question whatsoever and they'll usually answer it, > and be nice to you in the process. > > > > -- > Warren > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 > http://www.warrensirota.com > From apache@icel.liber-ti.com.mx Tue Jul 14 15:18:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2282 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:18:43 UTC Received: from icel.liber-ti.com.mx (icel.liber-ti.com.mx [209.160.24.21]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0414D3BE71 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from icel.liber-ti.com.mx (localhost [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by icel.liber-ti.com.mx (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6E7OGxm019544 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:24:16 -0500 Received: (from apache@localhost) by icel.liber-ti.com.mx (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id n6E7OGsS019543; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:24:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:24:16 -0500 Message-Id: <200907140724.n6E7OGsS019543@icel.liber-ti.com.mx> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: De Mme Mary Saleh From: Mme Mary Saleh Reply-To: m.salehone@gmail.com, mme_marysaleh@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bonjour, Je suis Mme Mary Saleh vieillissement veuve souffrant de longue maladie. Je avoir des fonds que j'ai hérité de mon défunt mari, la somme de US $ 7,300,000.00. J'ai besoin d'un très honnêtes et craignant Dieu, personne qui doit utiliser les fonds pour les L'œuvre de Dieu pour aider la Charité et les moins privilégiés et je l'ai tracée 1,700.000.00 de dollars, pour votre usage personnel à ce travail. S'il vous plaît si vous voulez être en mesure d'utiliser les fonds pour le travail du Seigneur, merci réponse pour plus de détails EMAIL: m.salehone@gmail.com Mme Mary Saleh From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 14 15:24:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20E483BE7E; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1247585066; l=5947; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:References:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=nMbDUuIoDg2F0D4PIPrS3rpRqpE=; b=b3fo7Rx9hLFlBjyHN7nsmGaJIyLZwb8nCo27IWFSxP2/ngrb5gc9AZ+Z4HXc1ckhH7R /KaFkx1GWBYcafF793TMoCH0slNy5JUENX0LDw3LJpFPBrTugbuE5OrDPqUTa7VO16OMX 4ZF3IzRBKo4Di8JA4kwc+bNCvTu3BrdE/do= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <00da01ca0497$a16f9e20$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <00a101c9ffee$f5541f00$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A54DA8A.2070401@netcologne.de> <003701ca0202$f5bb6690$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: two little guitar loops Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:24:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B7_01CA04A7.FF683770" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:24:30 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01CA04A7.FF683770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Michael, I like the "Frippertronics" track. What equipement have you used on this? If it=B4s a secret, you don=B4t have to tell us. Best, Christo ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Peters=20 To: Loopers Delight=20 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 10:38 AM Subject: two little guitar loops for those who haven't listened to it on Facebook: =20 here are two quite different guitar loops that I did on Friday. =20 afternoon: a "plain vanilla" Frippertronics style loop with the usual = RF inspired solo = http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/MichaelPeters200907= 09.mp3 =20 evening: a more atonal guitar improvisation with Stefan Tiedje doing = live treatments & loops using his "Ondes Memorielles" Max/MSP system = http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/HitchhikersDiary200= 90709.mp3=20 =20 enjoy! =20 -Michael =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01CA04A7.FF683770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Michael,
I like the "Frippertronics" track. What = equipement=20 have
you used on this? If it=B4s a secret, = you don=B4t have=20 to tell
us.
Best,
Christo
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Michael = Peters
To: Loopers Delight
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 = 10:38=20 AM
Subject: two little guitar = loops

for those who haven't = listened to=20 it on Facebook: 
here are two quite = different=20 guitar loops that I did = on Friday.
 
afternoon: a "plain = vanilla"=20 Frippertronics style loop with the usual RF inspired=20 solo
http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/Mic= haelPeters20090709.mp3
 
evening: a more atonal guitar improvisation = with=20 Stefan Tiedje doing live treatments & loops using his "Ondes = Memorielles"=20 Max/MSP system
http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/Hitchhiker= sDiary20090709.mp3 
 
enjoy!
 
-Michael
 
 
 
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 14 16:03:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 693083BE78; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:03:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: yHTBrCMVM1nR5aZbeM1giEOkOCfDX_N_KEiEj.O9YVMytpQ2rIVSGZJuk_rbwbBWQYa0K0kQ3DnsJBYa_kLuuv3c.a0IrIssQNYCwKjyMNCxRtOVih8c6Z3eH.llH7VkgPMi8EjoHPGDMOSiF6d7T09aZ.9M0IqhUQjCrr18E8jyUliD0P4Ovroyp5Ls63BZJARFVACQWAXQ7fPC9flBBrPhaGWp4qyWYKdnBH29Ch_GH8jqE63k81qtPHNDkFXUYjxxTwCyZ8RHPSOIVlIz7c6.ORYo0RdnJsnXfYOXWpRbyzct_DUjv.VPufNMgNC_VhkNvNObhdSgeD8Z55RrKyMl.Om.h3R2EKg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <000e01ca049c$a82a8a90$0201a8c0@A> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <00a101c9ffee$f5541f00$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A54DA8A.2070401@netcologne.de> <003701ca0202$f5bb6690$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <00da01ca0497$a16f9e20$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Subject: Re: two little guitar loops Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:03:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA04A5.099B7B60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:03:44 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA04A5.099B7B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Michael, I really enjoyed the Frippertronics track also. I love the soundworld at = the beginning of the track. Nice and bright. :) Great work. Ricky ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Christo Jota=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:24 PM Subject: Re: two little guitar loops Hi Michael, I like the "Frippertronics" track. What equipement have you used on this? If it=B4s a secret, you don=B4t have to tell us. Best, Christo ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Peters=20 To: Loopers Delight=20 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 10:38 AM Subject: two little guitar loops for those who haven't listened to it on Facebook: =20 here are two quite different guitar loops that I did on Friday. afternoon: a "plain vanilla" Frippertronics style loop with the = usual RF inspired solo = http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/MichaelPeters200907= 09.mp3 evening: a more atonal guitar improvisation with Stefan Tiedje doing = live treatments & loops using his "Ondes Memorielles" Max/MSP system = http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/HitchhikersDiary200= 90709.mp3=20 enjoy! -Michael -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.13/2236 - Release Date: = 07/13/09 17:57:00 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA04A5.099B7B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Michael,
 
I really enjoyed the Frippertronics = track also. I=20 love the soundworld at the beginning of the track. Nice and bright.=20 :)
 
Great work.
Ricky
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Christo=20 Jota
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 = 4:24=20 PM
Subject: Re: two little guitar=20 loops

Hi Michael,
I like the "Frippertronics" track. = What=20 equipement have
you used on this? If it=B4s a secret, = you don=B4t=20 have to tell
us.
Best,
Christo
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Michael = Peters
To: Loopers = Delight
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 = 10:38=20 AM
Subject: two little guitar = loops

for those who = haven't listened=20 to it on Facebook: 
here are two quite = different=20 guitar loops that I did = on Friday.
 
afternoon: a "plain = vanilla"=20 Frippertronics style loop with the usual RF inspired=20 solo
http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/Mic= haelPeters20090709.mp3
 
evening: a more atonal guitar = improvisation with=20 Stefan Tiedje doing live treatments & loops using his "Ondes=20 Memorielles" Max/MSP system
http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/Hitchhiker= sDiary20090709.mp3 
 
enjoy!
 
-Michael
 
 
 


No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA04A5.099B7B60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 14 16:12:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42F063BE79; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:12:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <00da01ca0497$a16f9e20$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Subject: RE: two little guitar loops Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:12:15 +0200 Message-ID: <008801ca049d$db0e3b40$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0089_01CA04AE.9E970B40" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcoEnX3NkRMNUmCMRHSrKledWYmI0gAAAyuw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <00da01ca0497$a16f9e20$0201a8c0@Toshiba> X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.204; VDF: 7.1.4.228) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:12:21 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01CA04AE.9E970B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I like the "Frippertronics" track. What equipement have you used on = this? If it=B4s a secret, you don=B4t have to tell=20 =20 a Fernandes sustainer guitar, a Sony Vaio notebook with Vista, Plogue Bidule, Guitar Rig, Quikquak Fusionfield reverb, LoopV (beta of the EDP plugin) =20 -Michael =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0089_01CA04AE.9E970B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> I like the "Frippertronics" = track. What=20 equipement have you used on = this? If=20 it=B4s a secret, you don=B4t have to tell 
 
a Fernandes sustainer guitar, a Sony Vaio = notebook with=20 Vista, Plogue Bidule, Guitar Rig, Quikquak Fusionfield reverb, LoopV = (beta of=20 the EDP plugin)
 
-Michael
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0089_01CA04AE.9E970B40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 14 16:14:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D56453BE80; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <00da01ca0497$a16f9e20$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Subject: RE: two little guitar loops Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:14:41 +0200 Message-ID: <008d01ca049e$318e8c90$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008E_01CA04AE.F5175C90" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcoEnX3NkRMNUmCMRHSrKledWYmI0gAAAyuw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <00da01ca0497$a16f9e20$0201a8c0@Toshiba> X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.204; VDF: 7.1.4.228) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:14:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01CA04AE.F5175C90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I forgot: the guitar has a GK-2a midi pickup, turned into midi by an Axon AX66, it triggers occasional mellotron sounds in Bidule, created by the GForce M-Tron Pro -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01CA04AE.F5175C90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I forgot: the guitar has a GK-2a midi pickup, = turned=20 into midi by an Axon AX66, it triggers occasional mellotron sounds in = Bidule,=20 created by the GForce M-Tron Pro
 
-Michael
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_008E_01CA04AE.F5175C90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 14 16:29:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D06163BE77; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: jD9YflIVM1lzSADaQp2L2yNUZlSlJ2WfIWVubiVD_8VSR68sIjUtW0uqaJsRuzo4tgwV21xBCH_Cr4QNhtO5S5c4uSE47IGdOkE9dCo8iPjZP7h1UPQEYXUFEDzkKmiTg_AYMj8iiFZ96iqzjJqpC1_CH5St_XXPwfVhXArDjxeMIGgoI30cTyBhWL7Z724hODTRiF8lQZfPQzGrJM2CMIAXlqlSvLJMi1BMBl5TGB5K.XMhTT5OknRfWlbQ8NAWMjdr09bj8ch4ZahAn3.dwAmgCUHw6BROyZ3WOTIRMQr.2upwjgqDxbcGEV2Z5HseHktDC1l7Srk2oenPthANXTXEJgH.rNoIXcI- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <002401ca04a0$4b011100$0201a8c0@A> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <00da01ca0497$a16f9e20$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <008801ca049d$db0e3b40$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: two little guitar loops Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:19:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA04A7.4BE4B610" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:29:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA04A7.4BE4B610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "a Fernandes sustainer guitar" How do you find it, Michael? I just ordered one for my electric. Do you = go through a lot of 9v batteries? Or do you power it with mains? Ricky ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Peters=20 To: Loopers Delight=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:12 PM Subject: RE: two little guitar loops > I like the "Frippertronics" track. What equipement have you used on = this? If it=B4s a secret, you don=B4t have to tell=20 a Fernandes sustainer guitar, a Sony Vaio notebook with Vista, Plogue = Bidule, Guitar Rig, Quikquak Fusionfield reverb, LoopV (beta of the EDP = plugin) -Michael -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.13/2236 - Release Date: = 07/13/09 17:57:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA04A7.4BE4B610 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"a = Fernandes=20 sustainer guitar"
 
How do = you find it,=20 Michael? I just ordered one for my electric. Do you go through a lot of = 9v=20 batteries? Or do you power it with mains?
 
Ricky
----- Original Message -----
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To: Loopers = Delight
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 = 5:12=20 PM
Subject: RE: two little guitar=20 loops

> I like the "Frippertronics" = track. What=20 equipement have you used = on this?=20 If it=B4s a secret, you don=B4t have to tell 
 
a Fernandes sustainer guitar, a Sony Vaio = notebook=20 with Vista, Plogue Bidule, Guitar Rig, Quikquak Fusionfield reverb, = LoopV=20 (beta of the EDP plugin)
 
-Michael
 
 


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Michael really enjoying this today, have streamed a cou8ple of times, = rushed today and can't commit in detail but love where you're going= on both particularly the second.
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power to your muse
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--001636c5b91e3df7ed046eae64f2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 14 18:16:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F97F3BE7E; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:16:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=NPbq/hBZm5ID4yVUDM+L//96kUJFNDjreDg3+aHgAYA2q2mqDcc05HEUj5KdybJ+i2y3KcaIpjYLNcP7PnI3+6w3ztA/EkrPq7HguQM3d9KOHDDHdypiFi6NKYOfR8kxq8WG36zjvALjyzxHsDOVbs6WGgHSbK0EDDxesxYFrdk= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: 0KZAEmgVM1kFdaah1xx4zAZFybvF2DaHwSl9HW8DoGMO2Dg.uG9KsGbKgZwtZsB5esFfBz4l6x3.E9kOH2S7ilH2IuGJwNft1idkFPe0Of7i06HEGTGVQZsDyNMjFr5gbE_tpDHDQRa.ptanpITjvyb6gxabl7p4A0A3Vy1my0GhW7C3fAknmpf7WhtX3m2yPe6jzRciLZzTAEiXi9RztD5o8v7XUwaQnjE9YlC1EbQTvhbdTWoNvR9doqz0e9C0brg2EhUlJqb5fwbxzJzo._AR4Euvc4.m2ewKapAAuXBRHSLY.zbOK0nGUq1LpRfur3M7IIcNFOtz78gI1WyJslN3Oxg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60907141113u1e2ce45fo3217e02e26d7543a@mail.gmail.com> References: <00a101c9ffee$f5541f00$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A54DA8A.2070401@netcologne.de> <003701ca0202$f5bb6690$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <9e0440a60907141113u1e2ce45fo3217e02e26d7543a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-852730826 Message-Id: <7D6C528D-4A72-4D33-9EBC-77B92387416B@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Tokafi Interview Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:16:26 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <9FaV2.A.FsG.AuMXKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:16:32 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-852730826 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed An interview i did for Tokafi - may i recommend you send them some stuff - great people and v interested in new music. Loop friendly journalist alert!!!! http://www.tokafi.com/15questions/15-questions-matt-stevens/ Ta Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-2-852730826 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
An interview i did for Tokafi - may i recommend you send them some stuff - great people and v interested in new music.

Loop friendly journalist alert!!!!

http://www.tokafi.com/15questions/15-questions-matt-stevens/

Ta

Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com




--Apple-Mail-2-852730826-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 14 23:34:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C7CA3BE79; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1247614452; bh=KkMjR1CqbpZGeFXvFStQgyO19joFmFWYFsrPWK5hXJw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1yPMAlYZGRDu/HFJ/i28ii7bx6isbP8VkjgCf8Z8e1NFYqudgVIkGACvTILKUyLAeWON0aWLmOL/QYB9Z/CS7wURZ/YJrsKf9ZxzqGec0jepx/wxoN6y5MVvDuiwb9szeMGSGFS8+blOCz4TgrpSgwq2s+/SwfjkFTyNa1C94L8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=kQhaelz8M5/fUdUNDYO3dLSZbY1sDjeN7QACCvMYx9oiZm5HQlfDf/umLsjxxTEjLQfUW8Ff7UvRNRE5Gih/WzqprArCBofUVZO9X0Ha8M7xXt8YZWjIMVLjOXnIQ52Z4jyOStMAJ3bAHEL/bw0VlYO3E49X3+uotGzDxU7VbnA=; Message-ID: <115125.81696.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:34:11 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: two little guitar loops To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:34:13 +0000 (UTC) why would anybody want to keep this secret...? > Hi Michael, > I like the > "Frippertronics" track. What equipement=20 > have > you used on this? If it=B4s > a secret, you don=B4t have=20 > to tell > us. > Best, > Christo >=20 >=0A=0A=0A From apache@icel.liber-ti.com.mx Wed Jul 15 02:23:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from icel.liber-ti.com.mx (icel.liber-ti.com.mx [209.160.24.21]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BCF3BE75 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:22:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from icel.liber-ti.com.mx (localhost [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by icel.liber-ti.com.mx (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6E6kCbo020804 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:46:12 -0500 Received: (from apache@localhost) by icel.liber-ti.com.mx (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id n6E6kCgo020798; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:46:12 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:46:12 -0500 Message-Id: <200907140646.n6E6kCgo020798@icel.liber-ti.com.mx> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: From Mary Saleh From: Mrs Mary Saleh Reply-To: m.salehone@gmail.com, mme_marysaleh@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, I am Mrs. Mary Saleh an aging widow suffering from long time illness. 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Good day,
I cashed the check of $4.500 000.00 Million USA Dollars due to expiry and deposited it with FedEx Express Courier Benin Branch, contact the Director
DR.Eliot Mbaka
Email:(fedexcourier1@ibibo.com)
Cell:+22998474312
SHIPMENT CODE AWB 33XZS
PACKAGE REGISTERED CODE NO XGT442.
SECURITY CODE SCTC/2001DHX/567/
TRANSACTION CODE 233/CSTC/101/33028/
CERTIFICATE DEPOSIT CODE SCTC/BUN/xxiv/-78/01
I have paid them for the delivery, the only money you will pay is security fee to enable them deliver the parcel to your given address. Reconfirm your info to them and also ask the director to issue the tracking/airway bill once you send them the fee
 
1 your full name
2 Your home address
3 Mobile number
4 A copy of your picture
5 corent occupation
Update me once you receive your package,
Regards
Rev pastor lili




Ahora también puedes acceder a tu correo Terra desde el móvil.
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------=_Part_7815_10559960.1247639285768-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 10:48:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADADD3BE7C; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:48:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090715104802994.F2E0B1C0009D@mwinf2726.orange.fr Message-ID: <65F5EDCAA92A418BAAB61C827A9DAD49@portable2jpr> From: "Jean Philippe" To: References: <00a101c9ffee$f5541f00$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A54DA8A.2070401@netcologne.de> <003701ca0202$f5bb6690$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: two little guitar loops Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:48:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01CA054A.80565220" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:48:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01CA054A.80565220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael, this is gorgeous. What I particularly like about these two tracks is = that loops are not used in a loop-ish way, it's always evolving, and the = listeners mind freed from cycles and repetitions. Great stuff ! Talking about equipment, it's a real shame that hardware equipment is = so limited compared to computers. Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Peters=20 To: Loopers Delight=20 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 10:38 AM Subject: two little guitar loops for those who haven't listened to it on Facebook: =20 here are two quite different guitar loops that I did on Friday. afternoon: a "plain vanilla" Frippertronics style loop with the usual = RF inspired solo = http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/MichaelPeters200907= 09.mp3 evening: a more atonal guitar improvisation with Stefan Tiedje doing = live treatments & loops using his "Ondes Memorielles" Max/MSP system = http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/HitchhikersDiary200= 90709.mp3=20 enjoy! -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01CA054A.80565220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Michael,
this is gorgeous. What I = particularly=20 like about these two tracks is that loops are not used in a loop-ish = way, it's=20 always evolving, and the listeners mind freed from cycles and = repetitions. Great=20 stuff !
Talking about equipment,  it's a = real shame=20 that hardware equipment is so limited compared to = computers.
Cheers,
JPR
 
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Michael = Peters
To: Loopers = Delight
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 = 10:38=20 AM
Subject: two little guitar = loops

for those who haven't = listened to=20 it on Facebook: 
here are two quite = different=20 guitar loops that I did = on Friday.
 
afternoon: a "plain = vanilla"=20 Frippertronics style loop with the usual RF inspired=20 solo
http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/Mic= haelPeters20090709.mp3
 
evening: a more atonal guitar improvisation = with=20 Stefan Tiedje doing live treatments & loops using his "Ondes = Memorielles"=20 Max/MSP system
http://www.veloopity.de/michaelpeters/livelooping2009/Hitchh= ikersDiary20090709.mp3 
 
enjoy!
 
-Michael
 
 
 
= ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01CA054A.80565220-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 11:02:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86A4A3BE81; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DD8u1YiZi4tbKcjClQoa4a5T4JF5VH0Gc4MqcURgQI8=; b=TC8Cor3iG9uqLqUK2zsgqHjUTllXjbtiQZ2r+3UCN8HhrTyJGls/HBeFeZu+L3kS5u n8DzQBGNWi31rdkQNdXL8NAnDUZ9nDI1MMIMP8tcYrQpCBH1c/7vNO+dRanVuD+T3S3x oJGReS2eMDDitu38qrbaUJMSbT3LdRad1Dcr8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ZHdvf2Yjqk0+WVE6JbCpiVtbWspY7vh6xLkQFMYgyTmMDDvqRPBD98ly+Q+rlBUVsJ t7XLa8PF0BsVYZ+LgctPFI0aJQQ+aGRU7hyMMpp3UVpDjxBlbSLQZMaYrgo143GAWWnp foQaDWU0FmzV8A+wmuscNDmC/F143H3Pees2o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:02:28 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907150402k15b4f231g401481bbb7fa8fdb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: two little guitar loops From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <46ECYC.A.PUD.GdbXKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:02:30 +0000 (UTC) JPR said: "Talking about equipment, it's a real shame that hardware equipment is so limited compared to computers." To which I'd like to reply with two devil's advocate statements: 1. Is it? 2. So I assume from your statement that your computer doesn't have hardware? I'd like one of those, too! Cheers, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 13:17:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1254A3BE78; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:17:56 UTC X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: _.bltyoVM1mdJfcZ2iTU1Hz3PPDhKDScbz8LxbSWLiNqa50zlVsE2FkVhv5Z6hOXKpXu1Lgr1nEbMTV72oTO81eC9t7pysTH34sGRsdnA6p1jahjIsUur1Fdz2fJA5crsTUJNHfZRL.4ats7ZT0OWUkxlOmgvQUx7kZ9BRT_Y69rasXV3TNLzBbGjds1VgJ._U8I6fFahPOY9Msw6rvHMd0DjVhWkWYrwHJfNkFakLFVZ9sV3a2iMsZlG05C6BpHxWDcXHJfmGcS2XVFYE6e9UbhfLQ6x9jiQGjaHXOaBqolSI30Tq5QETOXCvufmNoHBySbcfWSlnLvOnKYZDIgwlWkkJdWpjXwRjkIxg_UPA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <009601ca054d$bc1fecf0$0201a8c0@A> From: "Ricky Graham" To: Subject: OT(ish): Dhafer Youssef & Eivind Aarset Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:11:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0093_01CA0556.1D7B59F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:17:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01CA0556.1D7B59F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not strictly looping related; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHdkCE0UDq2w&feature=3Drelated Very nice sound world. Rick Walker should love this. Ricky ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01CA0556.1D7B59F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not strictly looping = related;
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHdkCE0UDq2w&feature=3Drelated=
 
Very nice sound world. Rick Walker = should love=20 this.
 
Ricky
------=_NextPart_000_0093_01CA0556.1D7B59F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 13:30:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1B1B3BE77; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:30:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <002401ca04a0$4b011100$0201a8c0@A> Subject: RE: two little guitar loops Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:30:45 +0200 Message-ID: <005001ca0550$75a83180$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0051_01CA0561.39310180" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <002401ca04a0$4b011100$0201a8c0@A> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcoFT7140OCKGiMiRnSyTqfGbNtSegAAE7bQ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:30:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01CA0561.39310180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > "a Fernandes sustainer guitar" > How do you find it, Michael? I just ordered one for my electric. Do you go through a lot of 9v batteries? Or do you power it with mains? I love it and no, it does not use too many batteries -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01CA0561.39310180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> "a Fernandes=20 sustainer guitar" 
> How do you find it, Michael? I just ordered = one for my=20 electric. Do you go through a lot of 9v batteries? Or do you power it = with=20 mains? 
 
I love it = and no, it=20 does not use too many batteries
 
-Michael
 
 
  ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01CA0561.39310180-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 13:32:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3497E3BE82; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:32:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: zNv3_WMVM1mWwMrT12mwChia0VXXQVuAwilQGpziGLV7UeErwkwSw6EnZlLe8h2jY042IUCmMtbGz2m.a91X3SfqW42G0q.TE0AKYwQ6zGvhZKjmFyCSYIlnRqlbtK7YLgjEfAT0BywkS0Lca_YZIa1iKA.qicWZUIwj_c6pWRyAQLuzM9iqwpAmt63jrgwM8evbXL6spFGSnT4NgadBM4RkGL_LqZZzDIB0N6xYfnLItEHi2sFHaonA6zOuBqcftrLa5X3waJEyCAYXqm5cde9QmwDQjdcpbxZmrlDolit3507RlZx6N1n2fnruJ4Rz0SXOkp0TKVuD8rL6OtUg4HcDGY1bdBV3AW8- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <00ac01ca0550$a8084fc0$0201a8c0@A> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <002401ca04a0$4b011100$0201a8c0@A> <005001ca0550$75a83180$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: two little guitar loops Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:32:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A9_01CA0559.09879870" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: <8Wp6YB.A.JNB.apdXKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:32:11 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01CA0559.09879870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's good to know. Thanks. Ricky ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Peters=20 To: Loopers Delight=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: RE: two little guitar loops > "a Fernandes sustainer guitar"=20 > How do you find it, Michael? I just ordered one for my electric. Do = you go through a lot of 9v batteries? Or do you power it with mains?=20 I love it and no, it does not use too many batteries -Michael -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.14/2238 - Release Date: = 07/14/09 18:03:00 ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01CA0559.09879870 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's good to know. = Thanks.
 
Ricky
----- Original Message -----
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To: Loopers = Delight
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Subject: RE: two little guitar=20 loops

> "a=20 Fernandes sustainer guitar" 
> How do you find it, Michael? I just ordered = one for=20 my electric. Do you go through a lot of 9v batteries? Or do you power = it with=20 mains? 
 
I love it = and no, it=20 does not use too many = batteries
 
-Michael
 
 
 


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------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01CA0559.09879870-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 13:38:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB0483BE7C; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:38:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=UFv7KTutapG67jPkf2rqzWwmjlZIYUkSBVEXzzJYN54=; b=TP7hGHyZUCl9v/aqtFcvXQUsGmJCQpkwkQxbZ5NxweTvzRjaLg6y9Ad2iS1njd5zL0 MsmaDexqxHrOJrSHHQihGsRcnpqq+D/Al68rLPWBehulHywrp/K8faFEja2Lj2l5J6At 3Obk1S+BQo7WNRKA0+7UHwR7bXb/4kvkaqhJo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Ec7SOTkBIsqvydstLtdm3k4wC+D+DfqyHQiOFwgNm/cu4Wki3pwdeY2oZuBDKJ4jXz ayTPyeW5IcjVuytUmpoHrRE5WfPVMH+gCHKQitMgzRTyOl8aOLdKdrtPE0BiP11dnBAg TUToPX60EKDairPtY/K7EXFsM+yGChKfc4zV8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:38:23 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907150638u23a9d0aane06445c9b7e84850@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Gig Spam: Chinapainting live in NYC this weekend From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502b079464f6d046ebeabc4 Resent-Message-ID: <0TcAB.A.fbB.QvdXKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:38:24 +0000 (UTC) --00504502b079464f6d046ebeabc4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wanted to pass along that for those on the list in NYC area Daryl [Shawn] and I will be doing a *Chinapainting * show this weekend in Manhattan. We're doing a return appearance at *ABC NoRio*, this Sunday evening, July 19th, at 8pm. Admission is $5. ABC NoRio , located at 156 Rivington, is a community run center for arts and activism. Chinapainting is appearing as part of the COMA improvisational music series curated by *Blaise Siwula*. This Sunday's performance is the 3rd in a round of shows (and our 5th Chinapainting tour) that Daryl and I began last weekend in Cleveland, OH, appearing at *Ingenuity Fest Cleveland *, a celebration of art and technology in music, performance, visual and aural arts now in it's 5th year. We did two hour long concerts at the Cleveland festival, one on Saturday and the other Sunday. We were honored to be selected for this innovative festival after applying last winter. Here's a clip of one of the segments - Chinapainting live at Ingenuity Fest Cleveland. *Special thanks to list member Brian Good who came out to see us.* There is a possibility that Daryl and I will also do a live webcast as part of my ongoing series, Sunday Morning at 11 on uStream.tv, a first ever for Chinapainting, this Sunday afternoon (July 19) at 3 schedule permitting. If it works out I'll send an email confirming. Regardless for those on the list in the NYC area please plan to come to this special Chinapainting performance at ABC NoRio, Sunday at 8pm. Reminder our studio CD, *Night Blooming Cereus* is available as digital download or CD, viaBandcamp.com . Directions to ABC NoRIo... *Take the **F Train** to Delancey Street or the **J**, **M**, or **Z Train** to Essex. After you get out of the subway, walk one block north to Rivington Street and turn right. ABC No Rio is located between Suffok and Clinton Streets on the north side of the street, at 156 Rivington Street.** * Have a great rest of the week and see you Sunday... Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --00504502b079464f6d046ebeabc4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I wanted to pass along th= at for those on the list in NYC area Daryl [Shawn] and I will be doing a=A0= Chinapainting=A0show this weekend in= Manhattan. =A0We're doing a return appearance at=A0ABC NoRio, t= his Sunday evening, July 19th, at 8pm. =A0Admission is $5.

ABC NoRio, located at 156 Rivington= , is a community run center for arts and activism. =A0Chinapainting is appe= aring as part of the=A0COMA improvisational= music series=A0curated by=A0Blaise Siwula.

This Sunday's performance is the 3rd in a round of = shows (and our 5th Chinapainting tour) that Daryl and I began last weekend = in Cleveland, OH, appearing at=A0Ingenuity Fes= t Cleveland, a celebration of art and technology in music, performa= nce, visual and aural arts now in it's 5th year. =A0We did two hour lon= g concerts at the Cleveland festival, one on Saturday and the other Sunday.= =A0We were honored to be selected for this innovative festival after apply= ing last winter. =A0Here's a clip of one of the segments -=A0Chinapainting live at Ingenuity Fest Cleveland. =A0Special= thanks to list member Brian Good who came out to see us.

There is a possibility that Daryl and I will also do a = live webcast as part of my ongoing series,=A0Sunday Morning at 11=A0on uStream.tv, a first ever for Chin= apainting, this Sunday afternoon (July 19) at 3 schedule permitting. =A0If = it works out I'll send an email confirming. =A0Regardless for those on = the list in the NYC area please plan to come to this special Chinapainting = performance at ABC NoRio, Sunday at 8pm.

Reminder our studio CD,=A0Night Blooming Cereus= =A0is available as digital download or CD, viaBandcamp.com.

Directions to ABC NoRIo...

Take the=A0F Train=A0to Delancey Street or the=A0J,=A0M, or=A0Z Train=A0to Essex. After you get out of the subway, walk one block north t= o Rivington Street and turn right. ABC No Rio is located between Suffok and= Clinton Streets on the north side of the street, at 156 Rivington Street.<= /i>=A0

Have a great rest of the week and see you Sunday...

Jim

--
ReUse, an introspective te= xtural aural
www.myspace.com/= CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgood= inmusic.com
www.chinap= aintingmusic.com
w= ww.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/china= paintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodin= music

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networkin= g...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodin= music

--00504502b079464f6d046ebeabc4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 13:52:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BADA3BE80; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:52:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CFs3RWdvAoAnwl5Oo4YYTpsQl4QleDp8PIxi1IPZPKc=; b=SVsIEg6cVmHZ/LOQkbhIc7EJZ8OLEIZ8ifxGRc4g9/LzvHkrM3lX/UzPBD1JdA94Lp 4t739OdxL+D4DVpVfMn19Jrv5egPrclcroul0AisB5xciw9vRECw8GzZCjsYN4WGX/by yY0hWttAm6eK66taRBMj2yr7Lnzwg/nPoCmZE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=marQMRIVu6VyV/zvaqxIaEoldIf2pyCgsGOdzjBn10czdfSpw62e1UJYMq5TCHL1+u zIUwKnZqYGdscCCmBWznj+s51AzexgB03T9YTlIOry1Y9awQ4W/yhbIOWXFr8UdFBLVu TgAlDR9MRErbEbHBBRoARwy24w+yxmf3RipG0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <009601ca054d$bc1fecf0$0201a8c0@A> References: <009601ca054d$bc1fecf0$0201a8c0@A> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:52:55 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907150652j448de577mb9455833be7b5229@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT(ish): Dhafer Youssef & Eivind Aarset From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:52:56 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > Not strictly looping related; > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdkCE0UDq2w&feature=related ...but cool singing from Dhafer. I have an album they did together that I really like! Eivind doesn't often let a loop play back too many times, so it may not "sound very loopy". BTW I think that was back in the days when his Repeater still worked ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 13:58:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC3423BE82; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:58:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: 4_NftXUVM1nQfFMJSIVBlFAr_lAMA3sJaPTELlWEsVG_77OG_Xt0dt1STWJs7UUQTBOOZXa.pvcx0XWCItdYq2S8xy04e4y6gFEXM72TWjM3r27GEJlSovxENaFWJL.knUJSYTeBnby_PYcTmZ9swngR9KBm5Bm2DEQzZMjP2Xw7mCf1SbjTc77hoaOmUBncm81mfAGYc0SbOQrZRdpXChFHOqARHCv365BemGi5m4RwcE6wfrtYphko7eE3V4Du_1poj7QTImAb4aAy0dOhJsmSY3Z.mrKKqkgAvjkoTkjFpjWQgHYNgG9MOYErzcK8Y44JT8DiPNbWAEJw1VfC2dGa8q_q6RRsVww- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <00c201ca0554$59283740$0201a8c0@A> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <009601ca054d$bc1fecf0$0201a8c0@A> <66f9cc1e0907150652j448de577mb9455833be7b5229@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT(ish): Dhafer Youssef & Eivind Aarset Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:58:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:58:36 +0000 (UTC) What's the album called, Per? Must source that out.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:52 PM Subject: Re: OT(ish): Dhafer Youssef & Eivind Aarset > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Ricky > Graham wrote: >> Not strictly looping related; >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdkCE0UDq2w&feature=related > > ...but cool singing from Dhafer. I have an album they did together > that I really like! Eivind doesn't often let a loop play back too many > times, so it may not "sound very loopy". BTW I think that was back in > the days when his Repeater still worked ;-)) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.14/2238 - Release Date: 07/14/09 18:03:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 14:01:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE4453BE84; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <00c201ca0554$59283740$0201a8c0@A> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT(ish): Dhafer Youssef & Eivind Aarset X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:01:24 -0700 References: <009601ca054d$bc1fecf0$0201a8c0@A> <66f9cc1e0907150652j448de577mb9455833be7b5229@mail.gmail.com> <00c201ca0554$59283740$0201a8c0@A> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:01:29 +0000 (UTC) I believe it's called: "Divine Shadows" On Jul 15, 2009, at 6:58 AM, Ricky Graham wrote: > What's the album called, Per? Must source that out.. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:52 PM > Subject: Re: OT(ish): Dhafer Youssef & Eivind Aarset > > >> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Ricky >> Graham wrote: >>> Not strictly looping related; >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdkCE0UDq2w&feature=related >> >> ...but cool singing from Dhafer. I have an album they did together >> that I really like! Eivind doesn't often let a loop play back too >> many >> times, so it may not "sound very loopy". BTW I think that was back in >> the days when his Repeater still worked ;-)) >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.14/2238 - Release Date: > 07/14/09 18:03:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 14:04:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64B633BE79; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: nPwjEbAVM1k9Gjo1cLNUGVLkpoFDxw0JAOfcaDhyfhqQfSo3SIHUIHXeflMn69iPwLupu2.G96egfPTlLfqck4RaXxYPM.mzCQENDAP29JMfKyCTwgzh.1Z_yFaV1iOYgcgrQfjl5cBA46aTwE_mzo9UYdKxkjg05sRCkkG7u7eMZcrHOkeGtXTDgaY1QWB6GXrnOe0vegs8lY.0IL0iRprfeh5JVuOFIHUG81VX2n4OU.EjtBrawC5_eZhtnZh1Y5NRDlILX5SkgSOa1X7lK.YZpHz6hUwrI5Kuk50Czxke8_bEfFnIKsxg_IuoURyDZQOsMqI00l0cddayYB7msMW0n0M1Xqr8H9c- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <00e801ca0555$1abb9320$0201a8c0@A> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <009601ca054d$bc1fecf0$0201a8c0@A> <66f9cc1e0907150652j448de577mb9455833be7b5229@mail.gmail.com> <00c201ca0554$59283740$0201a8c0@A> Subject: Re: OT(ish): Dhafer Youssef & Eivind Aarset Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:04:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Ted. ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd ® KiLLiAn" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:01 PM Subject: Re: OT(ish): Dhafer Youssef & Eivind Aarset >I believe it's called: "Divine Shadows" > > On Jul 15, 2009, at 6:58 AM, Ricky Graham wrote: > >> What's the album called, Per? Must source that out.. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:52 PM >> Subject: Re: OT(ish): Dhafer Youssef & Eivind Aarset >> >> >>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Ricky >>> Graham wrote: >>>> Not strictly looping related; >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdkCE0UDq2w&feature=related >>> >>> ...but cool singing from Dhafer. I have an album they did together >>> that I really like! Eivind doesn't often let a loop play back too >>> many >>> times, so it may not "sound very loopy". BTW I think that was back in >>> the days when his Repeater still worked ;-)) >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.boysen.se >>> www.perboysen.com >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.14/2238 - Release Date: >> 07/14/09 18:03:00 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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1004) id DBF8F3BE77; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1247670455; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=8KAGjWBKtHxXQIIE4BO9D7zW2Vg=; b=e3Vtdsgv0yG5dBus9L7WA7meUi5ogVyWx9BCK9s1mrYUL19FIfPIAPHUtmrL/X6i bCanFIgFpj4+cbhnpRSnTsMxIpwnOwXppZGygnwfOswknxlg1o0o5AViiGDngEaE; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=NM8jRjhx7csA:10 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=2Ck48afdAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=wUJ9XRdNAAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=JqEG_dyiAAAA:8 a=D_mJrw2WKfuygh6ZPkUA:9 a=HqMc_5nk6Zk9xi0IU1kA:7 a=WqY5rzwTOyczBoCrKf6I-7BZxqEA:4 a=6y61hU8uYSEA:10 a=pufoRJSiRt4A:10 a=K8sKunsjz6wA:10 a=t4fEMkN2Tb8A:10 a=HKjzKo7LuBcA:10 a=j1JV5d43ytUA:10 a=OvkNlcN-z70A:10 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Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:07:35 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA053C.7457FAE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for posting this Jim, great to see Chinapainting in action again. = I would have loved to have been there. I do really (really) hope you = guys are able to stream Sun!!!=20 peace out, Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:38 AM Subject: Gig Spam: Chinapainting live in NYC this weekend I wanted to pass along that for those on the list in NYC area Daryl = [Shawn] and I will be doing a Chinapainting show this weekend in = Manhattan. We're doing a return appearance at ABC NoRio, this Sunday = evening, July 19th, at 8pm. Admission is $5. ABC NoRio, located at 156 Rivington, is a community run center for = arts and activism. Chinapainting is appearing as part of the COMA = improvisational music series curated by Blaise Siwula. This Sunday's performance is the 3rd in a round of shows (and our 5th = Chinapainting tour) that Daryl and I began last weekend in Cleveland, = OH, appearing at Ingenuity Fest Cleveland, a celebration of art and = technology in music, performance, visual and aural arts now in it's 5th = year. We did two hour long concerts at the Cleveland festival, one on = Saturday and the other Sunday. We were honored to be selected for this = innovative festival after applying last winter. Here's a clip of one of = the segments - Chinapainting live at Ingenuity Fest Cleveland. Special = thanks to list member Brian Good who came out to see us. There is a possibility that Daryl and I will also do a live webcast as = part of my ongoing series, Sunday Morning at 11 on uStream.tv, a first = ever for Chinapainting, this Sunday afternoon (July 19) at 3 schedule = permitting. If it works out I'll send an email confirming. Regardless = for those on the list in the NYC area please plan to come to this = special Chinapainting performance at ABC NoRio, Sunday at 8pm. Reminder our studio CD, Night Blooming Cereus is available as digital = download or CD, viaBandcamp.com. Directions to ABC NoRIo... Take the F Train to Delancey Street or the J, M, or Z Train to Essex. = After you get out of the subway, walk one block north to Rivington = Street and turn right. ABC No Rio is located between Suffok and Clinton = Streets on the north side of the street, at 156 Rivington Street.=20 Have a great rest of the week and see you Sunday... Jim --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA053C.7457FAE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for posting this Jim, great to = see=20 Chinapainting in action again. I would have loved to have been there. I = do=20 really (really) hope you guys are able to stream Sun!!!
 
peace out,
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
To: loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 = 9:38=20 AM
Subject: Gig Spam: = Chinapainting live in=20 NYC this weekend

I wanted to pass along that for those on the list in NYC area = Daryl=20 [Shawn] and I will be doing a Chinapainting show this weekend in = Manhattan.=20  We're doing a return appearance at ABC NoRio, this = Sunday=20 evening, July 19th, at 8pm.  Admission is $5.

ABC NoRio, located at 156 Rivington, is a = community run=20 center for arts and activism.  Chinapainting is appearing as part = of=20 the COMA = improvisational music series curated by Blaise=20 Siwula.

This Sunday's performance is the 3rd in a round of shows (and our = 5th=20 Chinapainting tour) that Daryl and I began last weekend in Cleveland, = OH,=20 appearing at Ingenuity = Fest=20 Cleveland, a celebration of art and technology in music, = performance,=20 visual and aural arts now in it's 5th year.  We did two hour long = concerts at the Cleveland festival, one on Saturday and the other = Sunday.=20  We were honored to be selected for this innovative festival = after=20 applying last winter.  Here's a clip of one of the segments = - Chinapainting live at Ingenuity Fest Cleveland.=20  Special thanks to list member Brian Good who came out to see=20 us.

There is a possibility that Daryl and I will also do a live = webcast as=20 part of my ongoing series, Sunday=20 Morning at 11 on uStream.tv, a first ever for Chinapainting, = this=20 Sunday afternoon (July 19) at 3 schedule permitting.  If it works = out=20 I'll send an email confirming.  Regardless for those on the list = in the=20 NYC area please plan to come to this special Chinapainting performance = at ABC=20 NoRio, Sunday at 8pm.

Reminder our studio CD, Night Blooming Cereus is = available as digital download or CD, viaBandcamp.com.

Directions to ABC NoRIo...

Take=20 the F=20 Train to=20 Delancey Street or the J, M, or Z Train to Essex. After you get = out of=20 the subway, walk one block north to Rivington Street and turn right. = ABC No=20 Rio is located between Suffok and Clinton Streets on the north side of = the=20 street, at 156 Rivington Street. 

Have a great rest of the week and see you Sunday...

Jim

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www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com=
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinm= usic
www.myspace.com/chinap= aintingmusic
www.myspace.com/ji= mgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
= www.youtube.com/jimgoodinm= usic

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www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindig= ital

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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01CA053C.7457FAE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 15:27:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD7C93BE7E; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:27:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject :date:x-mailer; bh=nexcIcTK59fTPVgj26FmypqPfKILb4DDLAohmHo0vug=; b=TW8hTl4qD0zWbPlN8r0piej8f9noA6rAa6i6bolEDAGWvRslrzISgzmQ/qDePR3zkp bm47ROhS7MaI5KuT5agGJ75PeCC21mj+HTENTc7pBRsoXhy9oTdcS3VRwleVHPIX+Tfp EPaESGjWsPpOGuXEA4CBTXbtFzaXTJvRuWVDc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to :from:subject:date:x-mailer; b=vyzzjkmBUoV3nGcoKiRnbi466mePw9y7cF9Zmo18WnqAGa2k7JhX1XFEnl/vrP578a scosCbusETdWoIz9wo4YiQ6V3Uukao4UFdMG8XDqRgJb+aCCVTTX9NHj5Mm04uiopguF OXJu/BP8SKhPsN2CW0wQJ+DplE2kEUdrVGLPs= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9D0AE6CB-D8E3-419C-B869-A708C0E61EF4@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Marcus Staniec Subject: We Want Your Strangest Music/Sounds Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:28:06 +0900 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:27:33 +0000 (UTC) Dear Loopers, This is a call for submissions *Have you ever recorded some tracks that sound so strange that you don't know what to do with them? *Do you enjoy creating very odd music and/or sounds? *Do you have field-recordings of alien sounds that are impossible to figure out? *Have you ever secretly recorded crazy music from unsuspecting lunatics? *Have you never made any recordings but are intrigued by the idea of intentionally recording weird music/sounds? *Are you a professional musician who sometimes gets tired of pleasing people with proper music that you wish you could sometimes just go ape-shit and twist the spectrum of aural possibilities? *Do you make music you feel is normal but when heard by others they laugh uncontrollably and yell out, "WHAT THE FUCK?!"? Well people, we are here for you! We are in the process of creating a community known as WTFMusic. What is it? It deals with music that wobbles on the fringe, music that works with twisted creative ideas that sets it apart from other sounds in the world, music that makes you ask, "What The Fuck?!" Submitted material will be added to the WTFMusic Radio. We will also have an open blog for an ever growing library where anyone can freely post their WTFMusic to share. The blog will also be used for the discussion of related topics, promotion for related artists, notice of related events from around the world and more. And most important, to listen to what others have contributed. It is basically a place that encourages and promotes the strange and bizarre corners of the creative psych - a place where those interested can drop off their most fucked up creations. After some time we hope to release compilations of selected material and to even hold live events to support our community. This is the first submissions notice to go out for prerelease. We are asking you - our personal friends, connected people and those we know to help us build a decent library before we make the WTFMusic Radio and Blog go public. Please submit what you can to help us build this humble community and watch as it grows and thrives to encourage something a bit different than the norm. We already have a small growing library of music from complete unknown everyday people to well-known artists. But we still need your help! What Are The Guidelines? Format - You can send us any kind audio file. Remember to consider the bitrate. MP3 is the standard as it is small and easy to send. If you prefer to send us noncomputer files: cassettes, records, MDs, etc, please email us for our address. For now please send all material to: goodluckboys@gmail.com When the blog is up you will then be able to easily upload your music files in our dropbox. There is no deadline but we hope to get as much stuff as soon as possible. You can, of course, continue adding more material anytime. Any name or additional information can be included with the files. If you want to participate but are hesitant you can wait until we open the blog to see and hear for yourself what you might be getting into. We hope to make it public by the end of this summer. For the other brave souls - just dive right in and send us your stuff! Everyone who sends us material will be notified once the blog is up. We won't keep anyone on any kind of annoying ongoing mailing list. You can subscribe to the blog for that. All the material submitted is automatically copyrighted and belongs to those who share. Also, please feel free to forward or send this message along to those who you think may be interested in participating. Any questions/comments please don't hesitate to contact us. Thank you for your time and let's release our WTF urges to the world! Brought to you by The GoodLuck Boys. goodluckboys@gmail.com goodluckboys.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 15:46:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5C2B3BE7E; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:46:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+aSaZgh2LNifxNw+gz6lgN+qD0t4Z7f7q22AHMEg5oo=; b=EiWHUu381RtrnlwZmffFTnKU11JcIlYepV4sRBh0A/bdcIdiSaWUUQI5SEHLSERW5M nQstKWGBuKQJLthYixkEO2bV+vtCzQ/RE0d8speZtByqZxSLHYPZuw4BBUBBFgrcq36r O/R4i1sqgs8oapu1+CQTpmgYocQO5wAeDiDM0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HclEbwgAPGBqqUk9PjuU3ClWEkv6PWyE/69EQlDQvnVR1aD0ZbWNDUPrnt69taMq0K Xrk0zXj9lCuVF594TXRYWk4GqcWBqcwvWLwGD1KOmWSyOfaRrve9oAkb/z/6dwENddVS l0rDfw1WMjwibmlicf5xi0qAFoU4/8rjqGpbM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <00c201ca0554$59283740$0201a8c0@A> References: <009601ca054d$bc1fecf0$0201a8c0@A> <66f9cc1e0907150652j448de577mb9455833be7b5229@mail.gmail.com> <00c201ca0554$59283740$0201a8c0@A> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:46:27 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907150846y3e9d07d6pd7e3496933ae3a31@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT(ish): Dhafer Youssef & Eivind Aarset From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:46:28 +0000 (UTC) "Digital Prophecy" is the one I have been listening to. But Youssef also appears on Aarset's "Connected" album for one piece. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > What's the album called, Per? Must source that out.. 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--KTQASM3rj=_swnayEnUfqeVSzv1NSqN8He0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 16:09:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DED1A3BE85; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:09:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=z8LIbs9uU1E0CxWR7jnDFzHAYm59A9yU93vE6rRxpKc=; b=sSEHcXjaTtHxHMVJzkLhkd1SNqkOn/j+UzIDgyxYC3npOI+LETi0kZBXnSHBYpGZ8x QQU/jju0gUnDN1yLh6lyU3dJIoq5dNWfhlX6dfNdeXsQNiwp6vSkIhNI8FCqMEoUYmo+ 7if06YbPQjLQg0uKHWYdDuXf87yn36AXJ9Whc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=HUGamXGRM9b5QyCRyZtg5T0yoUuUa5o0wYY1sDkjQYcbG7Qo2FGfy176aGwS+Wvnmk UWdZ0EJsSkO10keTVpOYGRvvKk7UopJyCBluay/xV7qb/boOurUm0dK+DtjoXkxPmBFr s3TmoB87dDoSQLPyi5+p9Z6tDmPBX1xeloksk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <001001ca055d$fbbaa110$a4832245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <9e0440a60907150638u23a9d0aane06445c9b7e84850@mail.gmail.com> <001001ca055d$fbbaa110$a4832245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:09:04 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 88e8a9e2f423d00a Message-ID: <101191640907150909g182011a6v8749d6e0932423f9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Gig Spam: Chinapainting live in NYC this weekend From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163628393e391445046ec0c6cf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:09:05 +0000 (UTC) --00163628393e391445046ec0c6cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Won't be able to make it this time due to social commitments, but best of luck - I'm sure you guys will be great! Warren --00163628393e391445046ec0c6cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

Won't be able to make it this time due to social commitments, but best of luck - I'm sure you guys will be great!

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--00163628393e391445046ec0c6cf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 18:08:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87E333BE7F; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:08:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:08:43 -0700 Subject: FS: PAIA Theremax Theremin Kit - $75 From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:08:45 +0000 (UTC) FS: Partially assembled Paia Theremax Thermin unit. Includes new, still sealed faceplate and antennas from PAIA. I got this as is and never worked on it so I'm selling it as is. Looks well soldered but needs to be powered up and put in an enclosure. Nice DIY faceplate and backplate already done. Pictures out at: http://helpwantedproductions.com/Salez/FS.htm The faceplate is $40 new, the whole kit is $160 plus shipping. I'm asking $75 plus shipping and paypal. Full info at: http://paia.com/theremax.asp Thanks ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 18:32:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65DF03BE80; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:32:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090715183233766.BB20980000A2@mwinf2f07.orange.fr Message-ID: <1715303C091745B9A8E0458690453BA7@portable2jpr> From: "Jean Philippe" To: References: <7334ca1b0907150402k15b4f231g401481bbb7fa8fdb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: two little guitar loops Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:32:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01CA058B.61721560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:32:35 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01CA058B.61721560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Rainer, Ha ha! Very funny. You know what I mean by hardware equipment don't you. The problem with = me is that I'm blind and I can hardly use a computer on stage because I = would need to hear my screen reader speak while I'm playing. It's true that so-called hardware equipment are more and more screen = based also and it becomes a pain for blind musicians to use as well. A solution would be to have an assistant with me 24 hours a day but it's = not a cheap solution. Another solution would be to marry an assistant, but I'm not sure it's = cheaper. Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rainer Straschill=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:02 PM Subject: Re: two little guitar loops JPR said: "Talking about equipment, it's a real shame that hardware equipment is so limited compared to computers." To which I'd like to reply with two devil's advocate statements: 1. Is it? 2. So I assume from your statement that your computer doesn't have hardware? I'd like one of those, too! Cheers, Rainer ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01CA058B.61721560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Rainer,
Ha ha! Very funny.
You know what I = mean by=20 hardware equipment don't you. The problem with me is that I'm blind and = I can=20 hardly use a computer on stage because I would need to hear my screen = reader=20 speak while I'm playing.
It's true that so-called hardware equipment = are more=20 and more screen based also and it becomes a pain for blind musicians to = use as=20 well.
A solution would be to have an assistant with me 24 hours a day = but=20 it's not a cheap solution.
Another solution would be to marry an = assistant,=20 but I'm not sure it's cheaper.
Cheers,
JPR
 
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rainer Straschill
To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 = 1:02=20 PM
Subject: Re: two little guitar=20 loops


JPR said:
"Talking about equipment,  it's a = real=20 shame that hardware equipment
is so limited compared to=20 computers."

To which I'd like to reply with two devil's = advocate=20 statements:

1. Is it?
2. So I assume from your statement = that your=20 computer doesn't have
hardware? I'd like one of those,=20 = too!

Cheers,

       &nbs= p;   =20 Rainer

------=_NextPart_000_001E_01CA058B.61721560-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 19:56:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1853B3BE79; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KUPMqpklwNYDGnNEJ467XWJSp4DvzzHrP2UBCXOPxYA=; b=NpL1NLXlF10ZP+jT5UX2hOx7Ldf6v2EFOdLcv0QiW/2WbNBwwn4Mt1h6E5n3V/xwAY 4lcRu1D8/J7YVTFCp/QRtRu/1qrwboDMvc08NNwtDrE32YyDywoukGowypEr0HdCrePq DntbGOlEBr9t34dZbAlClhL5syEcnYiP8lXes= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=S/vzoiS23a/ExYMZWPcX7TYuXkRKeH0XVThHt/6LazMleXQ5Z0XLsodwRt1RpWt5zv F2Rcj8uJuFKQXeDZgAulOUmYxUf0CkAmhnu5mSp4oekajjfurgWi6jaKbe9FcK7Sg/se X8vTE0dYRt0dMYz/bDdZzoFlAxkbYwWZmtjUw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:56:58 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907151256k4915b6e7h997c544738297afb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Eivind Aarset, Jon Hassell... soon on streaming link from live festival From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:56:58 +0000 (UTC) In an hour or two Hassell and Aarset's set with Marifa Street band will be streamed over this page: http://www.sr.se/webbradio Marifa will start playing in about half an hour from now. Right now they are streaming Lee Retenour. This festival will be going two more days and be wrapped up by sonny Rollins on friday. Schedule here (but they won't steream it all): http://www.stockholmjazz.com/en Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 20:10:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD68E3BE77; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:10:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6iyyiI/1tlYe9/TWnzfPFJMTRGt7Wv+weEh/+m2tPOQ=; b=G4yIbxJ4EQNS85jF9g/Rsr2ZeYPnp7b0rS4wBPtwE12OlPka8T+tPqlqAbwPG3rtot dyahRvJHmqcAXXS6aWszn0N09M2w50vLRiO1N2hsIYzz7qgrh0kF5cSzsxvhlx9dcDCz OL2HlWPOIvfoEVkw1cLlZF0hLPnnI5e1Su0cw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Y/KX9n8lg+Pi64Ni29AyD6fO6pVcm4e9eJFgPOanOEqs/XyvzQ8nzQ/XYFqTlyCCcK XIrICCCGzocfw/imwNpAg+vOQ2QP6cpUwQzTDWRcxc384LOeX2ZRkh/B5xoAS3H59iVF 9RROHpXTq40hAkgJ7XYkU+isFBbMPDu+TWW/Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640907150909g182011a6v8749d6e0932423f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60907150638u23a9d0aane06445c9b7e84850@mail.gmail.com> <001001ca055d$fbbaa110$a4832245@YOUR08D5303051> <101191640907150909g182011a6v8749d6e0932423f9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:10:42 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907151310r1756a624h76dc972bbf49ad1f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Gig Spam: Chinapainting live in NYC this weekend From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b1c757c733046ec42670 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:10:44 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b1c757c733046ec42670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Guys thanks for the words and Warren you showed up last time so you have a lifetime membership in having done your duty so to speak, in other words sorry you can't make it but I know these days everyone's plate is pretty full so totally understood. The ustream hinges on Daryl's travel that day to NY and will probably work out, hoping we can do it. J On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > Hi, > > Won't be able to make it this time due to social commitments, but best of > luck - I'm sure you guys will be great! > > Warren > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5b1c757c733046ec42670 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Guys thanks for the words and Warren you showed up last time so you ha= ve a lifetime membership in having done your duty so to speak, in other wor= ds sorry you can't make it but I know these days everyone's plate i= s pretty full so totally understood.
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The ustream hinges on Daryl's travel that day to NY and will proba= bly work out, hoping we can do it.
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On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Warren Sirota = <wsirota@wsde= signs.com> wrote:
Hi,

Won't be able to= make it this time due to social commitments, but best of luck - I'm su= re you guys will be great!

Warren



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Regards, Garry Albert Jones Reply to:gjones1@excite.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 20:19:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2242F3BE7C; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:19:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=y05OVBHoonlGEtitJTmZzhg1241thQlCdnxpJqhFoQ8=; b=pQVW7Kjz9ILd9EcuCknrHRp/IcuYunCJMeYCMlw+uKLV1xdwS4+kYa+3utk9DcJP4/ QayvUTQ7wT2WhB06KeRIJPwCr8bZh5gZrh0Bp6K1lNkTiPkyuItUJCTvLn2tc4u3Kps/ GjVb5l19pb/cJh5EDaW0cgO+w2z+dXUf58+EY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=gOTYCq8msKzLfzrtOQ5/oVNlpUECTI72VGUB4N4nkLQZUc5gj/sfdSIySNViOqfDov VDt7Dk7rRhhbvZw1ePoDrsJK4uuN/uBeYC+wZl/yiVu2pTqjdqGXIAqORp3CFMzL2Ch8 rR3e2dbh0VzRmBSwTO6VcsL2s/KPAFl0XZb1c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:19:52 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907151319o33576caakebeb2a86c3e84e56@mail.gmail.com> Subject: hardware vs software - this time from a blind man's view (was "Re: two little guitar loops") From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0LsBOD.A.haB.pnjXKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:19:54 +0000 (UTC) Dear JPR, yes, I know what you mean by "hardware". Actually, my second point (the "computer without hardware") was targeted at that fact that, as you continue to point out, the majority of hardware effects (at least those most people here are interested in) are in fact embedded computer systems, featuring some sort of software inside of it. Now regarding your quest for an easy-to-use solution: I will in fact stick a little bit with the computer-based approach, simply because it's easier to customize a man machine interface here. The most important thing for you seems to me (and I'm of course open for any corrections to this statement) for you to have a man machine interface which doesn't require visual feedback of any sort. This means: 1. any commands you issue must not be context-sensitive. 2. any controllers you use must have good haptic feedback for you to identify which controller command you're about to issue. 3. any sort of information feedback from the computer (other than what you hear in your music) must be haptic. ad 1: This affects both the structure of the software solution and of the interface you're using. I'll try to give one example to see if that makes sense to you: in an earlier implementation of my computer-based looping setup (using Mobius), I would select tracks by linking the "previous track" and "next track" commands to a footswitch each. When I changed my approach insofar as to look at the screen less, this did no longer work: earlier, if I wanted to switch to, say, track 1, I had a look at the screen, and if track 3 was selected, I would simply press "previous track" twice. The changed approach: I added a BCR2000 faderbox which has a row of buttons with eight buttons. Now I simply hit the leftmost button in that row to go to track 1. This is no longer context-sensitive: pressing that button will always bring me to track 1. ad 2: this of course kicks out beautiful solutions like the lemur jazzmutant, and may also make options like the Akai APC40 with its huge number of buttons somewhat cumbersome. Also, foot controllers might be a problem (are they?). Now my question: how about something with motorized faders? Or something like an Akai MPD24 (4x4 Pad matrix, six faders above it, and two rows of four endless rotary knobs each beneath it). Would that work for you? Another controller which comes to mind (even though it looks very Eighties cheap SciFi) is the P5 dataglove: You have a total of eleven control channels (x/y/z position of your hand, x/y/z axis rotation of your hand, bending of each finger). And there's a software that maps this data to MIDI messages. Might something like this work for you? ad 3: again: would motorized faders work? Again, this is just meant as a collection of thoughts tossed out - not a solution which works for you. Best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 20:39:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32F063BE79; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 308 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:39:13 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=m4dqF0LTwbPBaqUolReasDgamydXJVwJIFkz8r/U1+o=; b=rnObjOcbwPNoan2zsfYxAIP61I6dsJstOeddz3TjEIX39B/W8j+iNWo5Toc6Xgi5QP AuPOUFTs08U/r35jNYqtxShxaPWrFiW8L+Gsj0LLWkOr1AayKssSj2IdLjWJoPoKo1+G AnTtsVuSzm4ETP/J7UwToxLsqFgnCivF6aYDg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TMO5ob+Hh+I1rvODt26ZCpMtL6H9va04BaWkp5fxLpMz+y1/rqbwsb8x9ujGn0ivdC O+CD13phiZrcFtLHGzd6lsOn3QzG//DeUNbpCLQ1XQu4fcBJ9j5z0VkB/YfgcGpJsPwR JQtL0ftlIH8Crp1JmN00uzkU0rcMZWZIaglyU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907151256k4915b6e7h997c544738297afb@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907151256k4915b6e7h997c544738297afb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:34:04 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0907151334v5a313347n848246205c784a05@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Eivind Aarset, Jon Hassell... soon on streaming link from live festival From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:39:14 +0000 (UTC) It wasn't immediately obvious to me what to do, since the pop-up was in Swedish. If anybody gets a chance to record this, let me know. Wow, Aarset and Hassell, very cool! On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > In an hour or two Hassell and Aarset's set with Marifa Street band > will be streamed over this page: > http://www.sr.se/webbradio > > Marifa will start playing in about half an hour from now. Right now > they are streaming Lee Retenour. This festival will be going two more > days and be wrapped up by sonny Rollins on friday. Schedule here (but > they won't steream it all): > http://www.stockholmjazz.com/en > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 20:45:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F5123BE7E; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Etrhk11lzkIs3tPkSNNVV40UOINj8gURhUEXu0nb75c=; b=TSAhI1J1gM30ggix7ovsB+qjWuV9z4LNKK4l2A2P5oAbTbsKOJS8hTqnh5VZGvn7QL V2r8FD/dUjnWaP16mL1z2elukFvPbrlJcDcG2wadN0vfEVAc/uSyv9jB9mxJH8qeT9aV 6XtpQfpdQPs5EDAnxFusqXfoYMiCoOZrwDcrs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oPa/FpTvWsTHhzlfsOT3U0kbc2BbanhkNQwr7jqgi2uUHjp8rarMFEaIY5qEplxO4k STXoBZikwuhnW/g7IM9Dc9DhjIrwr9g3K7NQ6m2CEio1PhDp5ZVp0BnhuCLny0iAYJtX kW4aR2/DqEKcl3EwObSNJAVae6obVoZDd2ddo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0907151334v5a313347n848246205c784a05@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907151256k4915b6e7h997c544738297afb@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0907151334v5a313347n848246205c784a05@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:45:33 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907151345g71b9cd2dj5dfeba1d3d233f1f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Eivind Aarset, Jon Hassell... soon on streaming link from live festival From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:45:34 +0000 (UTC) There is an icon that looks like that famous tower in Paris but this one has superman flashes coming out from the top. In other words "a radio tower icon". Click on it and your computer will launch either the Windows Media Player or the RealAudio Media Player. Or if you don't have them installed gently ask you to download one of them. Or if you have both installed it asks you to chose which one you prefer to enjoy Hassell through. I have Audio Hi-Jack loaded here anyway to record an AAC of the stream. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Art Simon wrote: > It wasn't immediately obvious to me what to do, since the pop-up was > in Swedish. If anybody gets a chance to record this, let me know. Wow, > Aarset and Hassell, very cool! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 22:25:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 103A93BE75; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090715222546562.894A01C00095@mwinf2029.orange.fr Message-ID: From: "Jean Philippe" To: References: <66f9cc1e0907151256k4915b6e7h997c544738297afb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Eivind Aarset, Jon Hassell... soon on streaming link from live festival Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:25:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA05AB.F6068790" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:25:47 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA05AB.F6068790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I think I missed it. When I clicked on the link you gave, I was asked to = authorise the site to use a media player plug-in. I authorised and then = I heard a Swedish rock band playing. I assumed it was the right station = because it also was a live performance, but no Jon Hassell here. I'll try later. Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Per Boysen=20 To: Loopers-Delight=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:56 PM Subject: Eivind Aarset, Jon Hassell... soon on streaming link from = live festival In an hour or two Hassell and Aarset's set with Marifa Street band will be streamed over this page: http://www.sr.se/webbradio Marifa will start playing in about half an hour from now. Right now they are streaming Lee Retenour. This festival will be going two more days and be wrapped up by sonny Rollins on friday. Schedule here (but they won't steream it all): http://www.stockholmjazz.com/en Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA05AB.F6068790 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Hi,
I think I=20 missed it. When I clicked on the link you gave, I was asked to authorise = the=20 site to use a media player plug-in. I authorised and then I heard a = Swedish rock=20 band playing. I assumed it was the right station because it also was a = live=20 performance, but no Jon Hassell here.
I'll try = later.
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Per = Boysen=20
To: Loopers-Delight =
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 = 9:56=20 PM
Subject: Eivind Aarset, Jon = Hassell...=20 soon on streaming link from live festival


In an hour or two Hassell and Aarset's set with = Marifa=20 Street band
will be streamed over this page:
http://www.sr.se/webbradio
Marifa=20 will start playing in about half an hour from now. Right now
they = are=20 streaming Lee Retenour. This festival will be going two more
days = and be=20 wrapped up by sonny Rollins on friday. Schedule here (but
they = won't=20 steream it all):
http://www.stockholmjazz.com/en<= /A>

Greetings=20 from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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Kisses Yetta From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 22:33:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02ECF3BE79; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QW8v7goKWjUZrmafG+th2RGkOGje/QCjG2YBY51MYiY=; b=xsy46bhKnhDDYdyHGrTtFRpDXK5SgS61KLHQ4249aAZPzVQI9AWhONb32TFWAPjOnD BwRtv3bwqlOkLSxMWYHD5+xl0TWA++qj5ukMbaVSwd7aBtcBx3N/2lIM7ssykr5Wx5Rj jvyk1NJWkfpzhJI9BP8Uk2bEdfp+dZVyyzfqs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TVhZk4jfyLpXP5KpbTWXGcnb+M1IeMeXUslruuYMheeluMPnI9OtRmoKxpYp26D9GQ i0ElHdY1VvxD/qQXs+EFr6WGwstbjBj7suWRofVEqdhgZg93YZKkbfOvHFKDxwwkM4QQ 78PHN+5seDt2Isxua5WBPA4pC1YYBl03Np5+g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0907151256k4915b6e7h997c544738297afb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:33:32 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907151533k78a2cbbegb916050e5bf0b91c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Eivind Aarset, Jon Hassell... soon on streaming link from live festival From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:33:33 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Jean Philippe wrote: > I think I missed it. Don't worry, JPR. I'm recording it right now. Interested friends may contact me for private sharing. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 23:40:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19B8C3BE79; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xenSl2RKYiExR0pu9TzgrtgNWvqCn4G5PH2XuKCQV/k=; b=ITXDlQK+86jVzuyPGaPDmv8MUuxhBQKPK9wb14jG25+R0UdTwy24fb8mUZ+8qCaw6T mV7vsyrX9u9Fa7RGwY4XOxveEN0LhTJhP/kA2HrL75i9f3yKrt+fCFpIA/96Z1v/X90j 2xypQRVMeTOr8ZgQ5ZFJBAFGKrsduUAg/3abo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sb1CaxyZDRrOnQo3MgQ5/dNbMLQafTzV6K9LJF3nUyx43Zder5nr6VniQfyQc+RXoq dDdSj2hUPqmztnIy2ZU8aiy1a9/wow+aKIG6piqBMCbJsrXL6LwICo65DlFtiQTS8yGX wqk0QyZW5itfDXlt9NihPDmNTmHxLHAC6aJMo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907151533k78a2cbbegb916050e5bf0b91c@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907151256k4915b6e7h997c544738297afb@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907151533k78a2cbbegb916050e5bf0b91c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:40:03 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eivind Aarset, Jon Hassell... soon on streaming link from live festival From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:40:04 +0000 (UTC) on 17th, at your festival, the glorious marcus miller ... don't miss it! 2009/7/16, Per Boysen : > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Jean Philippe wrote: >> I think I missed it. > > Don't worry, JPR. I'm recording it right now. Interested friends may > contact me for private sharing. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 23:46:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B11463BE75; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:46:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HS+ZzZIpEEpKjHZ9Hn7iJbmHa8Yr/bz/MPyXw/tshMI=; b=H4wV52n7vm2yoW2dG+QvrFbvTafgMDys5K11PMTEHxZjHoVYD8nNSa7+a7vUjVpeO4 ohY+fn5fDHvxIeEfS1SVukEQPM60TG+92LOYCkBITNEoKY6VdLiy3C2F3VN3nGorECSZ B4l/csE59n0nSVz0IAQ7NuFwddIeEYzJ7wPWY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uu4fqrFfAaTEnAr6kQq/g2JeK+mNc571CYeUVmNa9hoqDWdN4FK3yKHGwmatqk5ESu 8Z6gJ+Y0XwAItTtuHN738cYHSAb/hg0Pj8H/f8KF3VARmIPl/VOaPVSaSYRKHy0Xl3u6 Sq6uSHGsXek9ZbRPgck4mwELBCmd445rGf+/E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:46:50 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907151646t2b45417dy7806736de742859d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: aarset / hassell From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:46:55 +0000 (UTC) Here's the download link page: https://download.yousendit.com/dVlvT2pOUnFEa1VLSkE9PQ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > would love to get a copy when you have it recorded! > > many thanks! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 23:53:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B6BF3BE75; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lu1Y9uO61EhS3NHOBFVx2d0d+TElfIBqckwHgCyoDVc=; b=Acn52zdw80YarQ6g7nJWT2ASJxj7X/2gudvkggzCUQ1CGHb4paHF+i6CFUQmrVgXha shc5srqGlci+0z9+eGa4y297jsYaJ4/6nrFWAcDP2wJNEsoDGRXUU27bqDbBHHzqKGJM PjXyWr6IeWlKSSxbNLnA7pG7OyoDqMqklBXBM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GpmcW5st31nC467sqiNlClTPTWUF1i2Czp38VGqi2/jmF8E1jx4mXok9sWqHBq2J8j NyO9q3mnb+v7pXCJG8qx+aL7BwfFaCmqZzQdrNs4ueiJ3jjdkKjgrsuaD3sJXKVGV86O HDWP0FclIWBJWCHQ1j5z1vKSDpcLWs1/ds1W4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907151646t2b45417dy7806736de742859d@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907151646t2b45417dy7806736de742859d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:53:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: aarset / hassell From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:53:18 +0000 (UTC) thanks! 2009/7/16, Per Boysen : > Here's the download link page: > https://download.yousendit.com/dVlvT2pOUnFEa1VLSkE9PQ > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Simeon > Harris wrote: >> would love to get a copy when you have it recorded! >> >> many thanks! > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 15 23:54:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E5633BE7C; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=E6tSzxOWJIf0633jrE+rI+WgCX4nUZz+fPG+4vlMGbs=; b=knSgfdzc49bFL8Pk373iMsMCVoSyElorWUhKSIFxGB/DpndJTmJvuU9U5kYQjh/DM/ RxEdkaPZmrjY3szPjuBpdqR6oRiAn5Bx/xbvmQEjyfbD1/4z+6No4faVywNaCnktLxKn 7yfyRPck7MiZw5PL8KboFxBvwHPpb33P6RtjE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AAq8fNoB0lOa+aBAYpbnpTcZH8S5fxDlMuIBjHbMaQdDs0Su18YX+dy9rtUX1evkCn oPnWz2Iw+sFEkm+cfT28BWDB2XOzirKtWr1AzwRLBmAZhaFV95dw7px+q/18xIAgfMOr wwrGaOmrMZ4Bk2eHNuFXU8RcT0qkf7VfAHq60= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907151646t2b45417dy7806736de742859d@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907151646t2b45417dy7806736de742859d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:54:09 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907151654m644473b7w60734b1f485f8353@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: aarset / hassell From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Damn, this was a private mail that went to the list by mistake! I intended to share this with Simeon and those few who asked. Anyway, since the concert streaming link is already made accessible by public service radio I guess I won't go to jail for illegal file sharing for this typo ;-)) per On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Here's the download link page: > https://download.yousendit.com/dVlvT2pOUnFEa1VLSkE9PQ > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Simeon > Harris wrote: >> would love to get a copy when you have it recorded! >> >> many thanks! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 00:45:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D98E33BE7C; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gBOs1CmPoFoJv+a0sM2MDRszGVL3ho4tASD3wBO0hyk=; b=fpDpJvz55NjDBmBzkKgfQ8VM7D2g02JKyNstQcctimuFgA2wW3dMpigZjo8oavOuXM B8y7RtT0lQ/XdWToXTR/YUSIcIsUXe4HySqV+4S/+xOjXJtZ4QYZ9dNh2NkFTCVvcyiL WVZy8NIGS/f5i5jjbnJORxT0ofOSrVdGml6hw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tgcy2W+wMsRAThOgttPnsQ8vzU4pceN9RjEB5MTN6eK1Labo6J0frGg8m7/evdQtje uEmzKZQDBJ00pD9ar/Ie++pAvHMEw1rMv7D2OhtlrO7grLXNLq9PNYfmnVkZ+LCk0t89 +sZwglquwD7UsvpqrH8I/aoeQOTInYn6dveMQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907151654m644473b7w60734b1f485f8353@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907151646t2b45417dy7806736de742859d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907151654m644473b7w60734b1f485f8353@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:45:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: aarset / hassell From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:45:07 +0000 (UTC) .. sure, you're going to jail ... take those pictures when police catch you! ... :-) 2009/7/16, Per Boysen : > Damn, this was a private mail that went to the list by mistake! I > intended to share this with Simeon and those few who asked. Anyway, > since the concert streaming link is already made accessible by public > service radio I guess I won't go to jail for illegal file sharing for > this typo ;-)) > > per > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> Here's the download link page: >> https://download.yousendit.com/dVlvT2pOUnFEa1VLSkE9PQ >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Simeon >> Harris wrote: >>> would love to get a copy when you have it recorded! >>> >>> many thanks! >> > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 00:55:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8EA03BE75; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 408 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:55:13 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <58247.5984.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <58247.5984.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Matt McCabe Subject: Re: dual FX processors Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:48:22 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:55:13 +0000 (UTC) On Jun 23, 2009, at 4:27 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > is there a 19 rack dual FX proccesor in other words 2 different > effect proccesors in one,like having 2 different half rack ones to > use as a pre and post FX? > cheers I'm a little late to the party. Check out the Fractal Audio Axe-FX. Crazy routing options. --- King Never free music @ music.kingnever.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 02:53:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA6D13BE79; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:53:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=76k2FgyCXy//wA3xZNEuzPGAnqiErOZLuC0+6jlGk2s=; b=Y7ik5XTiap8RUabe33cfZr1fpi1vz9ycSS67chHeQqnI/lsLepq0W05KRHeRAuEf+6 QWax0DlNf3JVM+jnPFyo5GYqlv4bqrEmgVPk+h0YH5hcN7bZhkJo40niPG3uIKuyuhdQ lgiNdq17V9B/U7FlSl5zj8qYya3ns9sSoSTuM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EgYCNN/mJJNDFz5UbthnjlR9NOm7KjEXGK++YdgtPfcJtouKeBvhahlYj6GvXiA00W Yl+xeRqzOJ2rkCY4zvHXsfbluAeIeM7Z3JKFx0KD1NKLjiT5txzRsUJ38bdt2ZsZSMgZ bSK9m9f3G9k0dJJ3rf1jfhzs5lyPnPmMwB5xg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0907151646t2b45417dy7806736de742859d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907151654m644473b7w60734b1f485f8353@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:53:16 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0907151953x35b69395h31ed96d1ac9eb40@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: aarset / hassell From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:53:17 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Per! I'm happy : ) -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 02:54:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57B523BE78; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1247712887; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=g3gebPJk1uYs8BJJGzsNnS2MqcU=; b=UB3NLmo5JQhLCdMfGHQD40glcF0Jg6jRoDOz2+9m1PXM6ENfbMvggPqSVDv3K/Ry nDwY6cIA8TTvRVApfF3NJmPMP4CPIsmA+m17sa4auWCNUb1ROFBRwsA8aiBmtLld; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=lp2av5uXN7KAbyhNo0IA:9 a=u_xRl5JWFl1VYvlpw382Ucwr9t0A:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000801ca05c0$c80941b0$9d872245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <66f9cc1e0907151646t2b45417dy7806736de742859d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907151654m644473b7w60734b1f485f8353@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0907151953x35b69395h31ed96d1ac9eb40@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: aarset / hassell Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:54:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:54:48 +0000 (UTC) thanks Per, me too!!! :) Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Simon" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:53 PM Subject: Re: aarset / hassell > Thanks Per! > I'm happy : ) > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 03:00:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E64983BE7C; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A5E97E1.9030905@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:00:49 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban Outfitters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:00:54 +0000 (UTC) This is an odd one, but the Stylaphone (the electronic instrument that allows one to play a metal keyboard with a metal stylus) which has heretofore sold for $124-150 USD is suddenly available at the clothing store called Urban Outfitters in Santa Cruz for a mere $25. This version even has three different sounds, a line out and a vibrato switch............pretty dang cool and very loop friendly. Urban Outfitters has suddenly started carrying creative little instruments that are of surprisingly high caliber. I have bought a really nice Melodica in a carrying case and a Glockenspiel in a carrying case (each for $35) and also the programmable Toy Music Box that I"ve been so enamored with in my last two tours of Europe (for $20) All the instruments are concert pitched and I"m kind of blown away. I'm not sure if Urban Outfitters is a West Coast company or not, but I"m sure they have a web presence for folks in Europe, Asia, South America or the UK (Istanbul too, Erdem!!!) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 03:21:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53B113BE75; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1247714475; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=6rjawBLM1DgIRX/axFBg17VQQDA=; b=T9mvu0NYxhdHvGCnwgyMxG03qg498BJF1JMH/0QWq5sHY+L/NQ3YSem0hC6hcHc/ p2BHAUibgkHHqKc60eKnrbxcWaaljNWQH0R7xKd9+F8cm3hQNN+cT9bM6/2P6wj8; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=sBl62JWxeOwA:10 a=19LR19wmAAAA:8 a=oTtuw1C_AAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=DDuB56utfL2CWpiWqyoA:9 a=3YRm3r0bZEuYGWpuxUUA:7 a=3BPnpkFJ2AvQQ8kATq_DFdbDaB8A:4 a=pQ2a0EFxmsAA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=Hg0BElZELmfFEY5v:21 a=Z9Rg1eu791rbNOKN:21 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000d01ca05c4$7a7187b0$9d872245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <4A5E97E1.9030905@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban Outfitters Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:21:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Hey Rick, I couldn't find the Stylaphone at Urban Outfitters online but I did find it here if this is it. Only 2.50 pounds marked down. http://www.debenhams.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10001_74665_697761_-1 the others I can find after a google search at other locations. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:00 PM Subject: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban Outfitters > This is an odd one, but the Stylaphone (the electronic instrument that > allows one to play a metal keyboard with a metal stylus) which has > heretofore > sold for $124-150 USD is suddenly available at the clothing store called > Urban Outfitters in Santa Cruz for a mere $25. This version even has > three different sounds, a line out and a vibrato switch............pretty > dang cool > and very loop friendly. > > Urban Outfitters has suddenly started carrying creative little instruments > that > are of surprisingly high caliber. > > I have bought a really nice Melodica in a carrying case and a Glockenspiel > in a carrying case (each > for $35) and also the programmable Toy Music Box that I"ve been so > enamored with in my last two > tours of Europe (for $20) > > All the instruments are concert pitched and I"m kind of blown away. > > I'm not sure if Urban Outfitters is a West Coast company or not, but I"m > sure they have a web presence > for folks in Europe, Asia, South America or the UK (Istanbul too, > Erdem!!!) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 03:48:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B07253BE79; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:48:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=pD3g43+7Xnbs1lC0qjeE7NEENR5qC/NNi4JQ6Kg3Em4=; b=kQsYEC0rQQctXQ+KgKXPddzKSmt0FEVqfb+9KY5vgONg+9KW7XgK9j2ysMaHSPs3eQ PjtimOHgRvnJdWdwpY050kmEOmdwCqkmlBD7d3t58qYxXnDB8eDv1zWHXw+rn6VS0MsG 4nO/VRaXvu6IivOHZjjiXNCrryd+327nFukf4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=e1GpV9gTNK608VrCW+t7PL1+IQInRXG8M5LYm3YoTkv8x+J3ez6zDU/G3KGWGsF0xe Six56Xh8sAW1eGrVyhiycQscTnDi7ti25GfU2HeoIblJ0fLtYgvjzbzETqC0GpO1aoTd CqUAg/PqcP3/kwpGUpAUm3jDmLlSLIHb1tYz4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:48:02 -0500 Message-ID: <207d11220907152048s56fe4971l1e1b163759a3825a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Anyone want to trade their Gibson Echoplex Footswitch for a Behringer FCB1010? From: Timothy Miller To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6435224db18cb046eca89d2 Resent-Message-ID: <069su.A.C1.yLqXKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:48:02 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6435224db18cb046eca89d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey everyone, For many months, I have tried getting my Behringer FCB1010 to work with my Gibson EDP, but have not been successful at it. Even went as far as to talking to Mark F. himself, and still no luck. So therefore, I have decided to get rid of my Behringer FCB1010 for a Gibson Echoplex footswitch. However, I can't find anyone on ebay these days, so I'm asking you, the loopers community, if any of you would be interested in trading their Gibson Echoplex footswitches for the FCB? --0016e6435224db18cb046eca89d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everyone,

For many months, I have tried getting my B= ehringer FCB1010 to work with my Gibson EDP, but have not been successful a= t it. Even went as far as to talking to Mark F. himself, and still no luck.= So therefore, I have decided to get rid of my Behringer FCB1010 for a Gibs= on Echoplex footswitch. However, I can't find anyone on ebay these days= , so I'm asking you, the loopers community, if any of you would be inte= rested in trading their Gibson Echoplex footswitches for the FCB?
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Waiting for your urgent response via my private email:bran_gary@yahoo.com.hk Regards, Sgt Brandon Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 07:21:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EC183BE77; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:21:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Sovq6wILGEDSRLrRgmg2hI17TuG8pwFtwlvd/IcpFpM=; b=aRnVUhk6gk/Kb/XJxT3Su9E/QX5TEi6pVaOtJeyKtX/zwjgRvkWEUIMOlqNrq2emPv bFWUdXwqxfcUjn5ik/xJawa2Qu4qfZIWm91xrOWwAqSR7agrj13Dhguv5M9/osXq/srA J5HjMkcqhME5VAJR0haDs/6yWEpy8ukIyy8j0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=vxjNUJzqhhYBu4aJJyCuAsE3jbCWcgh3vHzQgv89rUF+9Q5bj7yhWuMtlJMwCoMmLH /OSuv1lb1YvefGVqGJ7jdcJ/p/aNZjkf0lXD+7oWkHoDfyLbtjsLFKYHUEDozbeY2w9k kRHhZiaIwq8mu+TaUH0j9fJDK/Z3xDedIus94= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <000d01ca05c4$7a7187b0$9d872245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <4A5E97E1.9030905@cruzio.com> <000d01ca05c4$7a7187b0$9d872245@YOUR08D5303051> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:21:05 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f1e1817f4d9783f4 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907160021j30b69fe2n4a7753e35154e6d0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban Outfitters To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1e85c091275046ecd859c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:21:27 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd1e85c091275046ecd859c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would buy 4 right now.. only the Add to Basket isnt working for me!!!! M On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:21 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Hey Rick, I couldn't find the Stylaphone at Urban Outfitters online but I > did find it here if this is it. Only 2.50 pounds marked down. > http://www.debenhams.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10001_74665_697761_-1 > > the others I can find after a google search at other locations. > > Jeff > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:00 PM > Subject: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban > Outfitters > > > > This is an odd one, but the Stylaphone (the electronic instrument that >> allows one to play a metal keyboard with a metal stylus) which has >> heretofore >> sold for $124-150 USD is suddenly available at the clothing store called >> Urban Outfitters in Santa Cruz for a mere $25. This version even has >> three different sounds, a line out and a vibrato switch............pretty >> dang cool >> and very loop friendly. >> >> Urban Outfitters has suddenly started carrying creative little instruments >> that >> are of surprisingly high caliber. >> >> I have bought a really nice Melodica in a carrying case and a Glockenspiel >> in a carrying case (each >> for $35) and also the programmable Toy Music Box that I"ve been so >> enamored with in my last two >> tours of Europe (for $20) >> >> All the instruments are concert pitched and I"m kind of blown away. >> >> I'm not sure if Urban Outfitters is a West Coast company or not, but I"m >> sure they have a web presence >> for folks in Europe, Asia, South America or the UK (Istanbul too, >> Erdem!!!) >> >> >> > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --000e0cd1e85c091275046ecd859c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would buy 4 right now.. only the Add to Basket isnt working for me!!!!
M

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:21 AM, J= eff Duke <jef= f_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Hey Rick, I could= n't find the Stylaphone at Urban Outfitters online but I did find it he= re if this is it. Only 2.50 pounds marked down. http://www.debenhams.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_1= 0001_10001_74665_697761_-1

the others I can find after a google search at other locations.

Jeff


----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:00 PM
Subject: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban Outfitte= rs



This is an odd one, but the Stylaphone (the electronic instrument that
allows one to play a metal keyboard with a metal stylus) which has heretofo= re
sold for $124-150 USD =A0is suddenly available at the clothing store called=
Urban Outfitters in Santa Cruz for a mere $25. =A0 =A0 This version even ha= s
three different sounds, =A0a line out and a vibrato switch............prett= y dang cool
and very loop friendly.

Urban Outfitters has suddenly started carrying creative little instruments = that
are of surprisingly high caliber.

I have bought a really nice Melodica in a carrying case and a Glockenspiel = in a carrying case (each
for $35) and also the programmable Toy Music Box that I"ve been so ena= mored with in my last two
tours of Europe (for $20)

All the instruments are concert pitched and I"m kind of blown away.
I'm not sure if Urban Outfitters is a West Coast company or not, but I&= quot;m sure they have a web presence
for folks in Europe, Asia, South America or the UK =A0(Istanbul too, Erdem!= !!)






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http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancom= be
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--000e0cd1e85c091275046ecd859c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 07:27:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F42353BE88; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Rainer Straschill'" , References: <7334ca1b0907151319o33576caakebeb2a86c3e84e56@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: hardware vs software - this time from a blind man's view (was "Re: two little guitar loops") Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:27:09 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907151319o33576caakebeb2a86c3e84e56@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: AcoF5huEiEHTqGvaQquQMjytQnElWwAAHLmw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Rainer wrote: "Another controller which comes to mind (even though it looks very Eighties cheap SciFi) is the P5 dataglove: You have a total of eleven control channels (x/y/z position of your hand, x/y/z axis rotation of your hand, bending of each finger). And there's a software that maps this data to MIDI messages. Might something like this work for you?" Wow that actually sounds really cool do you have a link for that Rainer? Bill -----Original Message----- From: Rainer Straschill [mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:20 PM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: hardware vs software - this time from a blind man's view (was "Re: two little guitar loops") Dear JPR, yes, I know what you mean by "hardware". Actually, my second point (the "computer without hardware") was targeted at that fact that, as you continue to point out, the majority of hardware effects (at least those most people here are interested in) are in fact embedded computer systems, featuring some sort of software inside of it. Now regarding your quest for an easy-to-use solution: I will in fact stick a little bit with the computer-based approach, simply because it's easier to customize a man machine interface here. The most important thing for you seems to me (and I'm of course open for any corrections to this statement) for you to have a man machine interface which doesn't require visual feedback of any sort. This means: 1. any commands you issue must not be context-sensitive. 2. any controllers you use must have good haptic feedback for you to identify which controller command you're about to issue. 3. any sort of information feedback from the computer (other than what you hear in your music) must be haptic. ad 1: This affects both the structure of the software solution and of the interface you're using. I'll try to give one example to see if that makes sense to you: in an earlier implementation of my computer-based looping setup (using Mobius), I would select tracks by linking the "previous track" and "next track" commands to a footswitch each. When I changed my approach insofar as to look at the screen less, this did no longer work: earlier, if I wanted to switch to, say, track 1, I had a look at the screen, and if track 3 was selected, I would simply press "previous track" twice. The changed approach: I added a BCR2000 faderbox which has a row of buttons with eight buttons. Now I simply hit the leftmost button in that row to go to track 1. This is no longer context-sensitive: pressing that button will always bring me to track 1. ad 2: this of course kicks out beautiful solutions like the lemur jazzmutant, and may also make options like the Akai APC40 with its huge number of buttons somewhat cumbersome. Also, foot controllers might be a problem (are they?). Now my question: how about something with motorized faders? Or something like an Akai MPD24 (4x4 Pad matrix, six faders above it, and two rows of four endless rotary knobs each beneath it). Would that work for you? Another controller which comes to mind (even though it looks very Eighties cheap SciFi) is the P5 dataglove: You have a total of eleven control channels (x/y/z position of your hand, x/y/z axis rotation of your hand, bending of each finger). And there's a software that maps this data to MIDI messages. Might something like this work for you? ad 3: again: would motorized faders work? Again, this is just meant as a collection of thoughts tossed out - not a solution which works for you. Best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 07:33:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F75A3BE7F; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:33:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A5ED84B.2050106@het.it> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:35:39 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: aarset / hassell References: <66f9cc1e0907151646t2b45417dy7806736de742859d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907151646t2b45417dy7806736de742859d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------050701070607090007020805" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090106-1, 06/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <9aT-JB.A.0mC.HftXKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:33:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050701070607090007020805 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you Per! Jon Hassel is always been one of my miths!
Max Liver

Per Boysen ha scritto: 
Here's the download link page:
https://download.yousendit.com/dVlvT2pOUnFEa1VLSkE9PQ

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Simeon
Harris<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
  
would love to get a copy when you have it recorded!

many thanks!


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luq8b6zZL//pf/v6v//83//+//8A8U/gQIIFDR5EmFDhQoYJAwIAOw== --------------050701070607090007020805-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 08:08:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD2EF3BE84; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "franticworld" To: References: <4A5E97E1.9030905@cruzio.com> Subject: AW: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban Outfitters Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:08:08 +0200 Message-ID: <43DEFAD297AC45C38CF02DBD218869F5@xppro> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoFwaUWJow5D8WwRHCM4+3/xfYRVgAKppwg In-Reply-To: <4A5E97E1.9030905@cruzio.com> X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1833R1SHWsObPxb1H5xVkM/NJz60EU5rQGm6hu mB+TrmeDksObp5HK/povpo0c3fehuYS2LIezx1jw6TB53mTOPU nDZF1MoytZq5hf8d8wE5G9PNk5BbSgi Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:08:13 +0000 (UTC) hey rick, what a nice hint. i just checked some sites and found another source for europe (germany in this case): http://www.monsterzeug.de/Stylophone.html its 19.95 eur here... -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Rick Walker [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com]=20 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 05:01 An: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) Betreff: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban Outfitters I'm not sure if Urban Outfitters is a West Coast company or not, but I"m = sure they have a web presence for folks in Europe, Asia, South America or the UK (Istanbul too, = Erdem!!!) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 08:09:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A33CF3BE79; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:09:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "franticworld" To: References: <4A5E97E1.9030905@cruzio.com> <43DEFAD297AC45C38CF02DBD218869F5@xppro> Subject: AW: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban Outfitters Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:09:26 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoFwaUWJow5D8WwRHCM4+3/xfYRVgAKppwgAAAaTbA= In-Reply-To: <43DEFAD297AC45C38CF02DBD218869F5@xppro> X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19QdyvBDfUUJYF32UV2eR1FFl0Z/pxfzlczClV xx7jzqU0lJXVFbhz9B5Ft2dn2wXu1pSCHlqzAHubLPsUnY9jH5 DIH01y4axtqMUe2fhvlpTnQx5hnhHJN Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:09:30 +0000 (UTC) just found, that they can not deliver at the moment... :-( -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: franticworld [mailto:info@franticworld.de]=20 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 10:08 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: AW: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban Outfitters hey rick, what a nice hint. i just checked some sites and found another source for europe (germany in this case): http://www.monsterzeug.de/Stylophone.html its 19.95 eur here... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 08:17:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 953FD3BE7E; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A5EE2AE.8040803@het.it> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:19:58 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: aarset / hassell References: <66f9cc1e0907151646t2b45417dy7806736de742859d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907151654m644473b7w60734b1f485f8353@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907151654m644473b7w60734b1f485f8353@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------090108080204050104010509" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090106-1, 06/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <2xIbGD.A.o-D.pIuXKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:17:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090108080204050104010509 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Oh Per,if you will  go jail...we'll bring you oranges! ;-)
so... this mistake gave me the occasion to listen to the
fantastic  performance of Jon! the only word to define it.

Max Liver

Per Boysen ha scritto: 
Damn, this was a private mail that went to the list by mistake! I
intended to share this with Simeon and those few who asked. Anyway,
since the concert streaming link is already made accessible by public
service radio I guess I won't go to jail for illegal file sharing for
this typo ;-))

per


On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Per Boysen<perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
  
Here's the download link page:
https://download.yousendit.com/dVlvT2pOUnFEa1VLSkE9PQ

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Simeon
Harris<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
    
would love to get a copy when you have it recorded!

many thanks!


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luq8b6zZL//pf/v6v//83//+//8A8U/gQIIFDR5EmFDhQoYJAwIAOw== --------------090108080204050104010509-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 10:13:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D68A3BE7F; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "franticworld" To: References: <4A5E97E1.9030905@cruzio.com> <43DEFAD297AC45C38CF02DBD218869F5@xppro> Subject: AW: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban Outfitters Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:13:40 +0200 Message-ID: <059116BFB1344CE9929D940FF6456D5D@xppro> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoFwaUWJow5D8WwRHCM4+3/xfYRVgAKppwgAAAaTbAABFd9YA== In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+OJenPdTyvXagFTyYlZm6z++OJ8Twf/0NjZcE aW5RROMZG127G7hvvLKg4gURDQ5HWrVWnVBd+J+6ut7/eD203X YgpxDhFtUiUzhh290LoWaGwZZfthvOe Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:13:45 +0000 (UTC) but amazon has it too: http://www.amazon.de/%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A-Stylophone-Musik-Synthesizer-K= eyb oard/dp/B001IT0SD6/ref=3Dsr_1_1?ie=3DUTF8&s=3Dce-de&qid=3D1247739160&sr=3D= 8-1 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: franticworld [mailto:info@franticworld.de]=20 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 10:09 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: AW: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban Outfitters just found, that they can not deliver at the moment... :-( -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: franticworld [mailto:info@franticworld.de]=20 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 10:08 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: AW: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban Outfitters hey rick, what a nice hint. i just checked some sites and found another source for europe (germany in this case): http://www.monsterzeug.de/Stylophone.html its 19.95 eur here... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 10:28:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37C133BE79; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A5F0157.4000200@het.it> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:30:47 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban Outfitters References: <4A5E97E1.9030905@cruzio.com> <43DEFAD297AC45C38CF02DBD218869F5@xppro> <059116BFB1344CE9929D940FF6456D5D@xppro> In-Reply-To: <059116BFB1344CE9929D940FF6456D5D@xppro> Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------000508020104040506090307" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090106-1, 06/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:28:35 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000508020104040506090307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes but it seems they can't deliver i in Italy! sigh! :'(

Max Liver

franticworld ha scritto: 
but amazon has it too:
http://www.amazon.de/%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A-Stylophone-Musik-Synthesizer-Keyb
oard/dp/B001IT0SD6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1247739160&sr=8-1



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: franticworld [mailto:info@franticworld.de] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 10:09
An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Betreff: AW: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban
Outfitters

just found, that they can not deliver at the moment... :-(

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: franticworld [mailto:info@franticworld.de] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 10:08
An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Betreff: AW: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban
Outfitters

hey rick, what a nice hint. i just checked some sites and found another
source for europe (germany in this case):
http://www.monsterzeug.de/Stylophone.html

its 19.95 eur here...


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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:53:10 +0000 (UTC) ThinkGeek to the rescue! http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/musical-instruments/aa64/ They also deliver internationally. We've grabbed=20 loot and had it delivered here to Japan, no=20 problemo. -- m. At 12:30 PM +0200 7/16/09, Massimo Liverani wrote: >Yes but it seems they can't deliver i in Italy! sigh! :'( > >Max Liver > >franticworld ha scritto: > >>but amazon has it too: >>http://www.amazon.de/%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A-Stylophone-Musik-Synthesizer-= Keyb >>oard/dp/B001IT0SD6/ref=3Dsr_1_1?ie=3DUTF8&s=3Dce-de&qid=3D1247739160&sr=3D= 8-1 >> >> >> >>-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- >>Von: franticworld [mailto:info@franticworld.d= e] >>Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 10:09 >>An:=20 >>Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com >>Betreff: AW: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban >>Outfitters >> >>just found, that they can not deliver at the moment... :-( >> >>-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- >>Von: franticworld [mailto:info@franticworld.d= e] >>Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 10:08 >>An:=20 >>Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com >>Betreff: AW: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban >>Outfitters >> >>hey rick, what a nice hint. i just checked some sites and found another >>source for europe (germany in this case): >>http://www.monsterzeug.de/Stylo= phone.html >> >>its 19.95 eur here... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 12:00:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 389493BE75; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=X6Bon+DaUlniZSNaT0DGlKzzahx79kdllZ6wxhgiOF4=; b=H8CD+0eUBoOXBeR3r+niFen70NctMcAk4o8oUQobflcp0D0+fVt4BcGBsHPSgbJGSI YQYdFMdlZoHebGxsYRBYA+6q1tBw/I2j/oru8lskMKV5+DlW8CtylcFBJ+csqcQ0R5ZH k4BcDBs8a5sYQWsDWHv/IFc+RLo1m9hEKXlmM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wUmcNQTaXnLa4jOMJ4VuxSuMmLEVTbSCoEbmBv6+OM/WXeNDiBQsBVat6T6EAEbsA+ qNFV2QQXf5sqxaVWt32nAzDgI8hMPG/VumyP2bIj0oZX8/sRWkJoWcvaCZBwBbgPkeKg trHHQR7ImNiSlPm1/UwbqdEBR61vQGqKNktOg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:00:12 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907160500r25219789xa17361056b1b90b7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: no idea what this does, but.... From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Well, as I understand that description it does two things: First, it seems to do what the Chord Memorizer in Logic does, add MIDI notes according to a set key in order to create "intelligent chord shifting" from incoming MIDI notes. Second, it does four part chords out of a monophonic audi input. It is not clear if this audio function is "intelligent" or not. I remember I once downloaded it to check out and then deleted it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i thought you might possibly be interested... > > http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/audio/ewivoicing.html > > the description makes no sense to me (bad translation), but i saw the word > "EWI" and thought of you From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 12:24:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA4143BE81; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A5F1C97.1090802@het.it> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:27:03 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: Way OT: Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban Outfitters References: <4A5E97E1.9030905@cruzio.com> <43DEFAD297AC45C38CF02DBD218869F5@xppro> <059116BFB1344CE9929D940FF6456D5D@xppro> <4A5F0157.4000200@het.it> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------020802050202000608050403" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090106-1, 06/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:24:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020802050202000608050403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yess but...28 $ of deliver! for me is too much!
I wait...

Max Liver

Mech ha scritto:
ThinkGeek to the rescue!

http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/musical-instruments/aa64/

They also deliver internationally.  We've grabbed loot and had it delivered here to Japan, no problemo.

    -- m.


At 12:30 PM +0200 7/16/09, Massimo Liverani wrote:
Yes but it seems they can't deliver i in Italy! sigh! :'(

Max Liver

franticworld ha scritto:

but amazon has it too:
<http://www.amazon.de/%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A-Stylophone-Musik-Synthesizer-Keyb>http://www.amazon.de/%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A-Stylophone-Musik-Synthesizer-Keyb
oard/dp/B001IT0SD6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1247739160&sr=8-1



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: franticworld [<mailto:info@franticworld.de>mailto:info@franticworld.de]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 10:09
An: <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Betreff: AW: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban
Outfitters

just found, that they can not deliver at the moment... :-(

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: franticworld [<mailto:info@franticworld.de>mailto:info@franticworld.de]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 10:08
An: <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Betreff: AW: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban
Outfitters

hey rick, what a nice hint. i just checked some sites and found another
source for europe (germany in this case):
<http://www.monsterzeug.de/Stylophone.html>http://www.monsterzeug.de/Stylophone.html

its 19.95 eur here...




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luq8b6zZL//pf/v6v//83//+//8A8U/gQIIFDR5EmFDhQoYJAwIAOw== --------------020802050202000608050403-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 12:58:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1F3A3BE7F; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:58:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 227704025/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.152.21/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.152.21 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqABAC/BXkpPTpgV/2dsb2JhbAAI0SKECwWJWw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,411,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="227704025" Message-ID: <4A5F2776.2060501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:13:26 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bidule midi question References: <2329C163-1127-4DC4-8FB9-224C598AA133@con-brio.com> In-Reply-To: <2329C163-1127-4DC4-8FB9-224C598AA133@con-brio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:58:42 +0000 (UTC) In addition to Per's post, I'd add. There's a "bidule" called "Midi to Value" which can convert from Midi note to an audio control. It has smoothing too... I guess you'll need that. I'd take the output from that and either link parameters to a Gain control, or more likely use Building Block>>Maths>>Function and enter "x*y" in order to control level of the synth. There's also a "midi note remapper". ...and as "Midi Note Filter". So with those 2 you can decide what range of notes are used to control the volume. Probably I'd make a Bidule Group with one Midi input and the relevant number of audio ins and outs. Then all the wiring is hidden, giving a simple component that performs the function you want. good luck, andy Steve Bingham wrote: > Do any Bidule users out there know how I can do the following, as I'm > pretty new to the program: > > I have two midi inputs coming into Bidule from external sources, on two > different midi channels. One is connected up to a synth module > (Absynth). I would like to use a range of note on values from the other > input to control the volume in Absynth. > > Any ideas welcome!! > > Thanks, > Steve > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 15:51:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E1133BE7C; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=L86itllC1urfNidgbNWELMJUx4PbWjh2YUu1krKYeks=; b=p1WpuF/ZXeUX702zXg4FsbRqq+XNbNMfC8Z055aUt8aLjycdGjzvv/MVjm6cUGy4t2 J/hkB1XdMUI6pseu7deeE2w2MkCbGHKSF9U0RFRtlbT5mj/Z1uEqazcVehmZ0ItSaa1n h9ptL4qQYr+fuq1Wt0iwreTMVmJVt9PbEK1e4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=k2gYmiVWSPqyGM1szcXCtIJkmm/JVGtG3ZduJKvpnLIyGpDgNIwNZCokkLnLi19VfQ esvdRMKz2z/W8s46MNp4F2aVa1h3wgrAaNgjGt4A8UTDXYANx5suzmEYvV/RQ1CSyg6x wZAYst+AnyC8Ywdw7nTSfWMVQrDtNtRxV57zM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:51:16 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907160851h77ce6db0h99b2c0270036dc58@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: hardware vs software - this time from a blind man's view From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:51:20 +0000 (UTC) About the P5 data glove, Bill had this to say: "Wow that actually sounds really cool do you have a link for that Rainer?" This seems to be something like the manufacturer's site: http://www.vrealities.com/P5.html Some years ago, I got one at a kind of blowout sale for some $16, including some computer games which can be controlled with it. I have to admit that although it would be utterly cool to control modular synths especially (and also effects with some self-done UI), I haven't done too much in that direction. The fun starts here: http://www.simulus.org/p5glove/ A site which offers (or links to) several drivers and applications which generate MIDI data, interface with Reaktor etc. Incidentially, just the other day a friend (who's also on this list btw) sent me a link to a package which interfaces this glove to PD under Linux: http://www.noisybox.net/computers/p5glove/ Now, for some eye/earcandy: you may simply search youtube etc yourself, but here's some funny stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHLFEOl9hNU&feature=PlayList&p=C5863259B3188D31&index=27 The Nord Modular G2X obviously lends itself to the idea of using it with that interface. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uleNZXNACJM For some ambient, virtual reality kind of use Gee, I've got to dig mine out again... As a sidenote, this is an USB device - which needs you need a computer to use it with a hardware synth/effect, and you need a driver for your OS. 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Juli 2009 10:09=0A>>An: =0A>>Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.c= om=0A>>Betreff: AW: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urb= an=0A>>Outfitters=0A>>=0A>>just found, that they can not deliver at the mom= ent... :-(=0A>>=0A>>-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----=0A>>Von: franticwor= ld [mailto:info@franticworld.de]=0A>>Gesendet:= Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 10:08=0A>>An: =0A>>Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A>>Betreff: AW: Way OT = Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at Urban=0A>>Outfitters=0A>>=0A>>= hey rick, what a nice hint. i just checked some sites and found another=0A>= >source for europe (germany in this case):=0A>>http://www.monsterzeug.de/Stylophone.html=0A>>=0A>>its 19.95= eur here...=0A=0A=0A --0-1526305349-1247760229=:62341 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ground Control to Major Tom!
=0A
 
= =0A
It is available on urban outfitters online under the name stylophon= e, but this is a much better price!
=0A
 
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thanks= !
=0A

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=0A
= =0AFrom: Mech <mech@m3ch= ..net>
To: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:53:00 AM
Subject: Re: AW: Way OT: Stylaphones suddenly available d= irt cheap at Urban Outfitters

ThinkGeek to the rescue!
http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/musical-instruments/aa64/

They= also deliver internationally.  We've grabbed
loot and had it deli= vered here to Japan, no
problemo.

    -- m.

At 12:30 PM +0200 7/16/09, Massimo Liverani wrote:
>Yes but it = seems they can't deliver i in Italy! sigh! :'(
>
>Max Liver
= >
>franticworld ha scritto:
>
>>but amazon has it too:
>><http://www.amazon.de/%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A-Stylophone-= Musik-Synthesizer-Keyb>http://www.amazon.d= e/%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A%1A-Stylophone-Musik-Synthesizer-Keyb
>>oa= rd/dp/B001IT0SD6/ref=3Dsr_1_1?ie=3DUTF8&s=3Dce-de&qid=3D1247739160&= amp;sr=3D8-1
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Urspr=FCng= liche Nachricht-----
>>Von: franticworld [<mailto:info@fra= nticworld.de>mailto:info@franticworld.de]
>>Gesen= det: Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 10:09
>>An:
>><mailto:= Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com&= gt;Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>>Betreff: AW: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly available dirt cheap at U= rban
>>Outfitters
>>
>>just found, that they can= not deliver at the moment... :-(
>>
>>-----Urspr=FCnglic= he Nachricht-----
>>Von: franticworld [<mailto:info@franti= cworld.de>mailto:info@franticworld.de]
>>Gesendet:= Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2009 10:08
>>An:
>><mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com><= A href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loo= pers-delight.com
>>Betreff: AW: Way OT Stylaphones suddenly av= ailable dirt cheap at Urban
>>Outfitters
>>
>>he= y rick, what a nice hint. i just checked some sites and found another
&g= t;>source for europe (germany in this case):
>><http://www.m= onsterzeug.de/Stylophone.html>http://www.monsterzeug.de/Stylophone.html>>
>>its 19.95 eur here...


= =0A=0A --0-1526305349-1247760229=:62341-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 18:41:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E266B3BE7C; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:41:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kAHmJkdcbBdk8Npo4Bf1aAnRIWx/3PNMKUFm0QpRcaI=; b=UQbmmchANmQIoJXs09g6LVDrfZ22TUhAJJFLfs55S8NGQmVfjXYKmkZe2k2Ou1n6oY l1sEl9Zdp2BR9VD20wuiNE7FEnzZ+InSD/rr6YfiRZ+O0VnauqP6vimYGcYkcuQThtv7 41rKrmMv1mdpaJv+se7G2K0Nxk5wo3Ra7eRVY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o0kCT5bCg6LyDinbp2iUxJGukjk/FubMntbnJZyU9nm6Yvdx8UlsgFWmMryXFUjobq aw+4lnOIUjwrn/iNfRIAU8/+FP5Z5d6Axyr0WkC16Qi6SQxot3MsRGVw5Ys8hXwjs4EY PB7OUxMo/5rqNsCsO4efOy+1DInGOXj26ytGQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907160851h77ce6db0h99b2c0270036dc58@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907160851h77ce6db0h99b2c0270036dc58@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:41:52 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: hardware vs software - this time from a blind man's view From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:41:54 +0000 (UTC) I've got one of these. I swear by it. If you saw me in my studio, all alone except for my cat, with this thing on and Reaktor 5's Spacedrone instrument being controlled by it... you'd probably laugh almost as hard as I eventually did. However, as for direct and precise control of a DAW? I wouldn't recommend it. Probably why it died at a game controller. Too squirrley. I've seen cool things done with a Wii Remote (call it a Wiimote and Nintendo will FAIL your game up for cert) but again, high on fun, low on precision. I know the OP voiced concern about the tri color lights of the APC40 that depict the idle/play/record states of a clip in Live, but I wonder if that would be something easy to disable. Painted over? Have someone good with electronics replace the lights with resistors? I wonder if there's a type of diode that could vibrate slightly to indicate it's state. I'll ask my friend who designs electronic devices if he knows of something. I'm sure there's a solution. The world is full of electromagnetic radiation that's out of the visual range for people with site. I'm surrounded by devices that pour it out all over the place. It's also full of things that use lights as indicators. It's the nature of our reality. I'm not trying to be disrespectful or flip. It's just that Ableton and Akai spent a bunch of time making a dedicated controller for their software and we're talking about using a P5 data glove instead? It's just silly. Get the APC40, have the lights removed if they frighten you and spent time having fun making music. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > About the P5 data glove, Bill had this to say: > "Wow that actually sounds really cool do you have a link for that Rainer?= " > > This seems to be something like the manufacturer's site: > http://www.vrealities.com/P5.html > > Some years ago, I got one at a kind of blowout sale for some $16, > including some computer games which can be controlled with it. > I have to admit that although it would be utterly cool to control > modular synths especially (and also effects with some self-done UI), I > haven't done too much in that direction. > > The fun starts here: > http://www.simulus.org/p5glove/ > > A site which offers (or links to) several drivers and applications > which generate MIDI data, interface with Reaktor etc. > > Incidentially, just the other day a friend (who's also on this list > btw) sent me a link to a package which interfaces this glove to PD > under Linux: > http://www.noisybox.net/computers/p5glove/ > > Now, for some eye/earcandy: you may simply search youtube etc > yourself, but here's some funny stuff: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXHLFEOl9hNU&feature=3DPlayList&p=3DC5863= 259B3188D31&index=3D27 > The Nord Modular G2X obviously lends itself to the idea of using it > with that interface. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuleNZXNACJM > For some ambient, virtual reality kind of use > > Gee, I've got to dig mine out again... > > As a sidenote, this is an USB device - which needs you need a computer > to use it with a hardware synth/effect, and you need a driver for your > OS. > > Best, > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 19:02:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD2AA3BE7F; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sW9ZMQyDWb9aTXplN9U9VSopkiXYVOlhR6kyK96V+Ls=; b=xwD1IJDMEk+wb1MLPN+s3RA8ikVtrz72trG7PMhpna2wBffeAG7vZ3jCrEqJKlMrQd MZNquQO3oDaQ1BgotDL8ryMYbZ9hZJ5XwK4UuHbvhuyDzgskE+ol5giT++YWzoe1Ie/c LWIu6iEieEdwgMjtYqXgzqfqeHzrPQDDBiFQY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vS7Iv/4afxkU5dexdeHvdbBaxftR3vZrVygEinx/+/wYswimZpXQE18o+17LC2qUWk MiPG2h+lDHb6c65URfktWAwsu2ZWIhc22OlWVQTc6BtG49gfOeEa6QBENxIr8p0+lFLt MYY7gn4d+v/HPDjbJS/7w8IpaVhTZjp/VwKro= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0907151319o33576caakebeb2a86c3e84e56@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:02:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: hardware vs software - this time from a blind man's view (was "Re: two little guitar loops") From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:02:51 +0000 (UTC) A response from my friend: Yes it can be done. I don't know if it's a tri-color LED you speak of or 3 separate LEDs. Doesn't matter too much really. You would probably want to pick off the LED outs and buffer them though because an LED generally draws about 20ma and some motors(to vibrate) will draw more than that and also you want to be careful because when the motor starts up it creates a back voltage as a spike so that has to be rectified. The problem is you'd need the device to modify it. There are also a million ways you could have it do something else besides LEDs. If he wants a Pro mod,I'd be into it,but if he just wants something slapped together,I wouldn't do it. Addendum: oh wait,I looked at the device;that's a shit load of LEDs. Why not a braille device interfaced? I wonder if those individual buttons can be found in a midi command hidden somewhere. That would make it easier. If you want, I can forward your email to him and if you're up for a custom job he'd be the man who could make it happen. He made a mod for me that used the light from a Repeater's tempo indicator to send tap information to a Lexicon Vortex. He's quite handy. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:27 AM, William Walker wr= ote: > Rainer wrote: > "Another controller which comes to mind (even though it looks very Eighti= es > cheap SciFi) is the P5 dataglove: You have a total of eleven control > channels (x/y/z position of your hand, x/y/z axis rotation of your hand, > bending of each finger). And there's a software that maps this data to MI= DI > messages. Might something like this work for you?" > > Wow that actually sounds really cool do you have a link for that Rainer? > =A0Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rainer Straschill [mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:20 PM > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: hardware vs software - this time from a blind man's view (was "R= e: > two little guitar loops") > > Dear JPR, > > yes, I know what you mean by "hardware". Actually, my second point > (the "computer without hardware") was targeted at that fact that, as > you continue to point out, the majority of hardware effects (at least > those most people here are interested in) are in fact embedded > computer systems, featuring some sort of software inside of it. > > Now regarding your quest for an easy-to-use solution: > > I will in fact stick a little bit with the computer-based approach, > simply because it's easier to customize a man machine interface here. > > The most important thing for you seems to me (and I'm of course open > for any corrections to this statement) for you to have a man machine > interface which doesn't require visual feedback of any sort. This > means: > =A01. any commands you issue must not be context-sensitive. > =A02. any controllers you use must have good haptic feedback for you to > identify which controller command you're about to issue. > =A03. any sort of information feedback from the computer (other than > what you hear in your music) must be haptic. > > ad 1: > This affects both the structure of the software solution and of the > interface you're using. I'll try to give one example to see if that > makes sense to you: > in an earlier implementation of my computer-based looping setup (using > Mobius), I would select tracks by linking the "previous track" and > "next track" commands to a footswitch each. When I changed my approach > insofar as to look at the screen less, this did no longer work: > earlier, if I wanted to switch to, say, track 1, I had a look at the > screen, and if track 3 was selected, I would simply press "previous > track" twice. The changed approach: > I added a BCR2000 faderbox which has a row of buttons with eight > buttons. Now I simply hit the leftmost button in that row to go to > track 1. This is no longer context-sensitive: pressing that button > will always bring me to track 1. > > ad 2: > this of course kicks out beautiful solutions like the lemur > jazzmutant, and may also make options like the Akai APC40 with its > huge number of buttons somewhat cumbersome. Also, foot controllers > might be a problem (are they?). Now my question: how about something > with motorized faders? Or something like an Akai MPD24 (4x4 Pad > matrix, six faders above it, and two rows of four endless rotary knobs > each beneath it). Would that work for you? > > Another controller which comes to mind (even though it looks very > Eighties cheap SciFi) is the P5 dataglove: You have a total of eleven > control channels (x/y/z position of your hand, x/y/z axis rotation of > your hand, bending of each finger). And there's a software that maps > this data to MIDI messages. Might something like this work for you? > > ad 3: > again: would motorized faders work? > > Again, this is just meant as a collection of thoughts tossed out - not > a solution which works for you. > > Best, > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 19:25:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38DC73BE78; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1247772346; l=3088; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:References:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=td6Ppd1paOfVfxmcUmX4Swsu5JE=; b=DMrdAmqGkkqiCCCwSBrPNctNUc9J7ZMqjUGdlpfUyaTqG4onzPWAhQQalXC/DF9anWV WHiU7i/fkoHL1Z4XV8tkuXSqh0X2caBy7cGOfqFddjOmYrb5NfMQG5J8hVaZmhH6fc5zp JyBdQLTmSCCfRwvfxgmbAiJj1Vm+CdyXni0= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <003501ca064b$afad3b40$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: "Loopers-Delight" References: <009601ca054d$bc1fecf0$0201a8c0@A> Subject: Re: OT(ish): Dhafer Youssef & Eivind Aarset Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:29:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA065C.70C50B40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:25:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA065C.70C50B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is great. Which record of Dhafer Youssef can you recommend? Gotta have more of that sound... Christo www.myspace.com/christojota ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ricky Graham=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:11 PM Subject: OT(ish): Dhafer Youssef & Eivind Aarset Not strictly looping related; =20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHdkCE0UDq2w&feature=3Drelated =20 Very nice sound world. Rick Walker should love this. =20 Ricky ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA065C.70C50B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is great. Which record of Dhafer = Youssef can=20 you
recommend? Gotta have more of that=20 sound...
Christo
www.myspace.com/christojota
 
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Not strictly looping = related;
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHdkCE0UDq2w&feature=3Drelated=
 
Very nice sound world. Rick Walker = should love=20 this.
 
Ricky
------=_NextPart_000_0030_01CA065C.70C50B40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 19:52:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 379373BE77; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AOXRacOxJFUiLFSrJ63sJAjuqdujNa+9a5YYDZ8jsbA=; b=dPlQ9b9WUFlmxB7gw+nWfv6WHZavb022PahxQ79Kn0M5RiYt1lH5GGluU7YzucZELL 6RaOFQhIlVAhrcr9kuJ0i5ljdGjQJGIqCk6WP7CRUTpVD0+cvlP5Zvr7mSZrRgGJrOia QPQVaQpHE+25GFUSTSiobv8VwSzHvDI3JJtZ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=aIEw1+WvDRNjmQ2wGzokPnUMx6dylmRKpnQhDu+DnRULeQivR2HMO5U+8RXrw4meop NpBHE3Tmpqp64SLXL67oTfXJziSKiBfj/XPLKLjUZQXzDiTkMVJOReYhlytIoMjejxJT oV4AjwPjEr4BKTHTrr1r5w2nu4r2lpP7QSe24= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <003501ca064b$afad3b40$0201a8c0@Toshiba> References: <009601ca054d$bc1fecf0$0201a8c0@A> <003501ca064b$afad3b40$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:52:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT(ish): Dhafer Youssef & Eivind Aarset From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f1e7c24f6272046ed8019a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:52:02 +0000 (UTC) --001485f1e7c24f6272046ed8019a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit both "divine shadows" and "digital prophesy" are great and feature aarset and his norwegian nu-jazz cohorts s On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Christo Jota wrote: > This is great. Which record of Dhafer Youssef can you > recommend? Gotta have more of that sound... > Christo > www.myspace.com/christojota > > --001485f1e7c24f6272046ed8019a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable both "divine shadows" and "digital prophesy" are great = and feature aarset and his norwegian nu-jazz cohorts

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--001485f1e7c24f6272046ed8019a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 20:10:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9108F3BE79; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:10:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090716201055632.9A6C51C00081@mwinf2724.orange.fr Message-ID: <892E1EF5A6CB417ABC8CBBFD795F252C@portable2jpr> From: "Jean Philippe" To: References: <7334ca1b0907151319o33576caakebeb2a86c3e84e56@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: hardware vs software - this time from a blind man's view (was "Re: two little guitar loops") Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:10:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0061_01CA0662.49B3C400" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:10:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01CA0662.49B3C400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Rainer, Bravo! Your understanding of blind musicians problem is so wonderful that for a = moment I wondered if you were blind yourself. If you're not, then I = guess you must be playing with your eyes closed or maybe do you have = another blind musician friend. Anyway,=20 your description of context nonsensitive commands is exactly right.=20 But I'm afraid it would only be one part of the problem. I can imagine = having a large series of switches to trigger a loop machine, but for = more complex tools like Ableton Live which I would dream to be able to = use on stage, I wonder if a solution could exist. We live in a strange = world where today's musical instruments designers spend more and more = money and energy trying to make their products look nice and, well, I = don't know if I can blame them because may be a totally haptic interface = would be much too large to be usable. My goal would be to have a minimum = of pre-programmed stuff because I am and have always been an improviser, = and if I could find a way to create musical environments on-the-fly, I = think I would be the happiest man in the world. Apart from this, I'm playing with African musicians quite often, and if = I was going to use loops with them, I would have to find a way to match = my loops or sequences tempi to what they are playing, and certainly not = trying to make them slave to my loops. Enough slavery. I don't know about this new device thatAkai released to manipulate = Live, but sadly I think I heard that the track buttons had three status = bar indicated by their collar. Bad news for me. I'm not sure about motorised faders because I think they might be = fragile even though I could be wrong, but I've always found knobs more = pleasant to manipulate. I'm currently using a GermanIBK10 controller = which felt nice but might be limited for newer machines. I'm really willing to discuss some more with you about possible = solutions. Thank you for the discussion that your joke started. All the best, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rainer Straschill=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:19 PM Subject: hardware vs software - this time from a blind man's view (was = "Re: two little guitar loops") Dear JPR, yes, I know what you mean by "hardware". Actually, my second point (the "computer without hardware") was targeted at that fact that, as you continue to point out, the majority of hardware effects (at least those most people here are interested in) are in fact embedded computer systems, featuring some sort of software inside of it. Now regarding your quest for an easy-to-use solution: I will in fact stick a little bit with the computer-based approach, simply because it's easier to customize a man machine interface here. The most important thing for you seems to me (and I'm of course open for any corrections to this statement) for you to have a man machine interface which doesn't require visual feedback of any sort. This means: 1. any commands you issue must not be context-sensitive. 2. any controllers you use must have good haptic feedback for you to identify which controller command you're about to issue. 3. any sort of information feedback from the computer (other than what you hear in your music) must be haptic. ad 1: This affects both the structure of the software solution and of the interface you're using. I'll try to give one example to see if that makes sense to you: in an earlier implementation of my computer-based looping setup (using Mobius), I would select tracks by linking the "previous track" and "next track" commands to a footswitch each. When I changed my approach insofar as to look at the screen less, this did no longer work: earlier, if I wanted to switch to, say, track 1, I had a look at the screen, and if track 3 was selected, I would simply press "previous track" twice. The changed approach: I added a BCR2000 faderbox which has a row of buttons with eight buttons. Now I simply hit the leftmost button in that row to go to track 1. This is no longer context-sensitive: pressing that button will always bring me to track 1. ad 2: this of course kicks out beautiful solutions like the lemur jazzmutant, and may also make options like the Akai APC40 with its huge number of buttons somewhat cumbersome. Also, foot controllers might be a problem (are they?). Now my question: how about something with motorized faders? Or something like an Akai MPD24 (4x4 Pad matrix, six faders above it, and two rows of four endless rotary knobs each beneath it). Would that work for you? Another controller which comes to mind (even though it looks very Eighties cheap SciFi) is the P5 dataglove: You have a total of eleven control channels (x/y/z position of your hand, x/y/z axis rotation of your hand, bending of each finger). And there's a software that maps this data to MIDI messages. Might something like this work for you? ad 3: again: would motorized faders work? Again, this is just meant as a collection of thoughts tossed out - not a solution which works for you. Best, Rainer ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01CA0662.49B3C400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Rainer,
Bravo!
Your understanding of blind musicians = problem is so=20 wonderful that for a moment I wondered if you were blind yourself. If = you're=20 not, then I guess you must be playing with your eyes closed or maybe do = you=20 have another blind musician friend. Anyway,
your description of = context=20 nonsensitive commands is exactly right.
But I'm afraid it would only be one = part of the=20 problem. I can imagine having a large series of switches to trigger a = loop=20 machine, but for more complex tools like Ableton Live which I would = dream to be=20 able to use on stage, I wonder if a solution could exist. We live in a = strange=20 world where today's musical instruments designers spend more and more = money and=20 energy trying to make their products look nice and, well, I don't know = if I can=20 blame them because may be a totally haptic interface would be much too = large to=20 be usable. My goal would be to have a minimum of pre-programmed stuff = because I=20 am and have always been an improviser, and if I could find a way to = create=20 musical environments on-the-fly, I think I would be the happiest man in = the=20 world.
Apart from this, I'm playing with African musicians quite = often, and=20 if I was going to use loops with them, I would have to find a way to = match my=20 loops or sequences tempi to what they are playing, and certainly not = trying to=20 make them slave to my loops. Enough slavery.
I don't know about this = new=20 device thatAkai released to manipulate  Live, but sadly I think I = heard=20 that the track buttons had three status bar indicated by their collar. = Bad news=20 for me.
I'm not sure about motorised faders because I think they = might be=20 fragile even though I could be wrong, but I've always found knobs more = pleasant=20 to manipulate. I'm currently using a GermanIBK10 controller which felt = nice but=20 might be limited for newer machines.
I'm really willing to discuss some more = with you=20 about possible solutions.
Thank you for the discussion that your joke = started.
All the best,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rainer Straschill
To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 = 10:19=20 PM
Subject: hardware vs software - = this time=20 from a blind man's view (was "Re: two little guitar loops")


Dear JPR,

yes, I know what you mean by = "hardware".=20 Actually, my second point
(the "computer without hardware") was = targeted at=20 that fact that, as
you continue to point out, the majority of = hardware=20 effects (at least
those most people here are interested in) are in = fact=20 embedded
computer systems, featuring some sort of software inside = of=20 it.

Now regarding your quest for an easy-to-use = solution:

I will=20 in fact stick a little bit with the computer-based approach,
simply = because=20 it's easier to customize a man machine interface here.

The most = important thing for you seems to me (and I'm of course open
for any = corrections to this statement) for you to have a man = machine
interface=20 which doesn't require visual feedback of any sort. = This
means:
 1.=20 any commands you issue must not be context-sensitive.
 2. any=20 controllers you use must have good haptic feedback for you = to
identify=20 which controller command you're about to issue.
 3. any sort = of=20 information feedback from the computer (other than
what you hear in = your=20 music) must be haptic.

ad 1:
This affects both the structure = of the=20 software solution and of the
interface you're using. I'll try to = give one=20 example to see if that
makes sense to you:
in an earlier = implementation=20 of my computer-based looping setup (using
Mobius), I would select = tracks by=20 linking the "previous track" and
"next track" commands to a = footswitch=20 each. When I changed my approach
insofar as to look at the screen = less,=20 this did no longer work:
earlier, if I wanted to switch to, say, = track 1, I=20 had a look at the
screen, and if track 3 was selected, I would = simply press=20 "previous
track" twice. The changed approach:
I added a BCR2000 = faderbox=20 which has a row of buttons with eight
buttons. Now I simply hit the = leftmost button in that row to go to
track 1. This is no longer=20 context-sensitive: pressing that button
will always bring me to = track=20 1.

ad 2:
this of course kicks out beautiful solutions like = the=20 lemur
jazzmutant, and may also make options like the Akai APC40 = with=20 its
huge number of buttons somewhat cumbersome. Also, foot=20 controllers
might be a problem (are they?). Now my question: how = about=20 something
with motorized faders? Or something like an Akai MPD24 = (4x4=20 Pad
matrix, six faders above it, and two rows of four endless = rotary=20 knobs
each beneath it). Would that work for you?

Another = controller=20 which comes to mind (even though it looks very
Eighties cheap = SciFi) is the=20 P5 dataglove: You have a total of eleven
control channels (x/y/z = position=20 of your hand, x/y/z axis rotation of
your hand, bending of each = finger).=20 And there's a software that maps
this data to MIDI messages. Might=20 something like this work for you?

ad 3:
again: would = motorized=20 faders work?

Again, this is just meant as a collection of = thoughts=20 tossed out - not
a solution which works for=20 = you.

Best,

        =     =20 Rainer

------=_NextPart_000_0061_01CA0662.49B3C400-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 21:52:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5996C3BE7C; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:52:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090716215228510.7C9731C00081@mwinf2702.orange.fr Message-ID: From: "Jean Philippe" To: References: <7334ca1b0907151319o33576caakebeb2a86c3e84e56@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: hardware vs software - this time from a blind man's view (was "Re: two little guitar loops") Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:52:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0081_01CA0670.7943A2E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:52:30 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01CA0670.7943A2E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mark, You know, what I would really like is f... three position mechanical = switches. But they won't do it because it's too old-fashioned. And the thing is it = would probably be cooler for you sighted folks to because you could be = looking at something else or even inside yourselves while playing.=20 Meanwhile I would be glad to talk to your man. Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Sottilaro=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:02 PM Subject: Re: hardware vs software - this time from a blind man's view = (was "Re: two little guitar loops") A response from my friend: Yes it can be done. I don't know if it's a tri-color LED you speak of or 3 separate LEDs. Doesn't matter too much really. You would probably want to pick off the LED outs and buffer them though because an LED generally draws about 20ma and some motors(to vibrate) will draw more than that and also you want to be careful because when the motor starts up it creates a back voltage as a spike so that has to be rectified. The problem is you'd need the device to modify it. There are also a million ways you could have it do something else besides LEDs. If he wants a Pro mod,I'd be into it,but if he just wants something slapped together,I wouldn't do it. Addendum: oh wait,I looked at the device;that's a shit load of LEDs. Why not a braille device interfaced? I wonder if those individual buttons can be found in a midi command hidden somewhere. That would make it easier. If you want, I can forward your email to him and if you're up for a custom job he'd be the man who could make it happen. He made a mod for me that used the light from a Repeater's tempo indicator to send tap information to a Lexicon Vortex. He's quite handy. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:27 AM, William = Walker wrote: > Rainer wrote: > "Another controller which comes to mind (even though it looks very = Eighties > cheap SciFi) is the P5 dataglove: You have a total of eleven control > channels (x/y/z position of your hand, x/y/z axis rotation of your = hand, > bending of each finger). And there's a software that maps this data = to MIDI > messages. Might something like this work for you?" > > Wow that actually sounds really cool do you have a link for that = Rainer? > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rainer Straschill [mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:20 PM > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: hardware vs software - this time from a blind man's view = (was "Re: > two little guitar loops") > > Dear JPR, > > yes, I know what you mean by "hardware". Actually, my second point > (the "computer without hardware") was targeted at that fact that, as > you continue to point out, the majority of hardware effects (at = least > those most people here are interested in) are in fact embedded > computer systems, featuring some sort of software inside of it. > > Now regarding your quest for an easy-to-use solution: > > I will in fact stick a little bit with the computer-based approach, > simply because it's easier to customize a man machine interface = here. > > The most important thing for you seems to me (and I'm of course open > for any corrections to this statement) for you to have a man machine > interface which doesn't require visual feedback of any sort. This > means: > 1. any commands you issue must not be context-sensitive. > 2. any controllers you use must have good haptic feedback for you to > identify which controller command you're about to issue. > 3. any sort of information feedback from the computer (other than > what you hear in your music) must be haptic. > > ad 1: > This affects both the structure of the software solution and of the > interface you're using. I'll try to give one example to see if that > makes sense to you: > in an earlier implementation of my computer-based looping setup = (using > Mobius), I would select tracks by linking the "previous track" and > "next track" commands to a footswitch each. When I changed my = approach > insofar as to look at the screen less, this did no longer work: > earlier, if I wanted to switch to, say, track 1, I had a look at the > screen, and if track 3 was selected, I would simply press "previous > track" twice. The changed approach: > I added a BCR2000 faderbox which has a row of buttons with eight > buttons. Now I simply hit the leftmost button in that row to go to > track 1. This is no longer context-sensitive: pressing that button > will always bring me to track 1. > > ad 2: > this of course kicks out beautiful solutions like the lemur > jazzmutant, and may also make options like the Akai APC40 with its > huge number of buttons somewhat cumbersome. Also, foot controllers > might be a problem (are they?). Now my question: how about something > with motorized faders? Or something like an Akai MPD24 (4x4 Pad > matrix, six faders above it, and two rows of four endless rotary = knobs > each beneath it). Would that work for you? > > Another controller which comes to mind (even though it looks very > Eighties cheap SciFi) is the P5 dataglove: You have a total of = eleven > control channels (x/y/z position of your hand, x/y/z axis rotation = of > your hand, bending of each finger). And there's a software that maps > this data to MIDI messages. Might something like this work for you? > > ad 3: > again: would motorized faders work? > > Again, this is just meant as a collection of thoughts tossed out - = not > a solution which works for you. > > Best, > > Rainer > > ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01CA0670.7943A2E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mark,
You know, what I would really like = is f...=20 three position mechanical switches.
But they won't do it because it's = too=20 old-fashioned. And the thing is it would probably be cooler for you = sighted=20 folks to because you could be looking at something else or even inside=20 yourselves while playing.
Meanwhile I would be glad to talk to your=20 man.
Cheers,
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark=20 Sottilaro
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 = 9:02=20 PM
Subject: Re: hardware vs = software - this=20 time from a blind man's view (was "Re: two little guitar loops")


A response from my = friend:

Yes it can=20 be done. I don't know if it's a tri-color LED you speak of
or 3 = separate=20 LEDs. Doesn't matter too much really. You would probably
want to = pick off=20 the LED outs and buffer them though because an LED
generally draws = about=20 20ma and some motors(to vibrate) will draw more
than that and also = you=20 want  to be careful because when the motor
starts up it = creates a back=20 voltage as a spike so that has to be
rectified.
The problem is = you'd=20 need the device to modify it. There are also a
million ways you = could have=20 it do something else besides LEDs.
If he wants a Pro mod,I'd be = into it,but=20 if he just wants something
slapped together,I wouldn't do = it.
Addendum:=20 oh wait,I looked at the device;that's a shit load of LEDs.
Why not = a=20 braille device interfaced? I wonder if those individual
buttons can = be=20 found in a midi command hidden somewhere. That would
make it=20 easier.

If you want, I can forward your email to him and if = you're up=20 for a
custom job he'd be the man who could make it happen.  He = made a=20 mod
for me that used the light from a Repeater's tempo indicator to = send
tap information to a Lexicon Vortex.  He's quite = handy.

On=20 Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:27 AM, William Walker<billwalker@baymoon.com>=20 wrote:
> Rainer wrote:
> "Another controller which comes = to mind=20 (even though it looks very Eighties
> cheap SciFi) is the P5 = dataglove:=20 You have a total of eleven control
> channels (x/y/z position of = your=20 hand, x/y/z axis rotation of your hand,
> bending of each = finger). And=20 there's a software that maps this data to MIDI
> messages. Might = something like this work for you?"
>
> Wow that actually = sounds=20 really cool do you have a link for that Rainer?
> = Bill
>
>=20 -----Original Message-----
> From: Rainer Straschill=20 [mailto:moinsound@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, = 2009 1:20=20 PM
> To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com
>=20 Subject: hardware vs software - this time from a blind man's view (was = "Re:
> two little guitar loops")
>
> Dear=20 JPR,
>
> yes, I know what you mean by "hardware". = Actually, my=20 second point
> (the "computer without hardware") was targeted at = that=20 fact that, as
> you continue to point out, the majority of = hardware=20 effects (at least
> those most people here are interested in) = are in=20 fact embedded
> computer systems, featuring some sort of = software inside=20 of it.
>
> Now regarding your quest for an easy-to-use=20 solution:
>
> I will in fact stick a little bit with the=20 computer-based approach,
> simply because it's easier to = customize a man=20 machine interface here.
>
> The most important thing for = you seems=20 to me (and I'm of course open
> for any corrections to this = statement)=20 for you to have a man machine
> interface which doesn't require = visual=20 feedback of any sort. This
> means:
> 1. any commands you = issue=20 must not be context-sensitive.
> 2. any controllers you use must = have=20 good haptic feedback for you to
> identify which controller = command=20 you're about to issue.
> 3. any sort of information feedback = from the=20 computer (other than
> what you hear in your music) must be=20 haptic.
>
> ad 1:
> This affects both the structure = of the=20 software solution and of the
> interface you're using. I'll try = to give=20 one example to see if that
> makes sense to you:
> in an = earlier=20 implementation of my computer-based looping setup (using
> = Mobius), I=20 would select tracks by linking the "previous track" and
> "next = track"=20 commands to a footswitch each. When I changed my approach
> = insofar as=20 to look at the screen less, this did no longer work:
> earlier, = if I=20 wanted to switch to, say, track 1, I had a look at the
> screen, = and if=20 track 3 was selected, I would simply press "previous
> track" = twice. The=20 changed approach:
> I added a BCR2000 faderbox which has a row = of=20 buttons with eight
> buttons. Now I simply hit the leftmost = button in=20 that row to go to
> track 1. This is no longer = context-sensitive:=20 pressing that button
> will always bring me to track = 1.
>
>=20 ad 2:
> this of course kicks out beautiful solutions like the=20 lemur
> jazzmutant, and may also make options like the Akai = APC40 with=20 its
> huge number of buttons somewhat cumbersome. Also, foot=20 controllers
> might be a problem (are they?). Now my question: = how about=20 something
> with motorized faders? Or something like an Akai = MPD24 (4x4=20 Pad
> matrix, six faders above it, and two rows of four endless = rotary=20 knobs
> each beneath it). Would that work for = you?
>
>=20 Another controller which comes to mind (even though it looks = very
>=20 Eighties cheap SciFi) is the P5 dataglove: You have a total of = eleven
>=20 control channels (x/y/z position of your hand, x/y/z axis rotation = of
>=20 your hand, bending of each finger). And there's a software that = maps
>=20 this data to MIDI messages. Might something like this work for=20 you?
>
> ad 3:
> again: would motorized faders=20 work?
>
> Again, this is just meant as a collection of = thoughts=20 tossed out - not
> a solution which works for = you.
>
>=20 Best,
>
> = Rainer
>
>

------=_NextPart_000_0081_01CA0670.7943A2E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 22:18:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 173C93BE77; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:21:14 +1200 From: G Subject: Eventide Time Factor To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090716-1, 16/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Hi there Other than the Eventide Time Factor I haven't found a stereo delay pedal with midi control on the market - so I'm seriously considering it. I'm wondering if anyone knows if the TF looper can be quantised in anyway, be it to the tempo setting or incoming midi sync? =20 Or is it totally dependant on the timing of the musician's foot? Thanks, -- G. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 22:26:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82E323BE7C; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:26:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YW7V5mFaDFw9t4mfH3+s+LRFj1BhUtNGGOlKOFwEND4=; b=d43QrrtEoDAC3t73nqdqAADDzu1Nhh7IdVzyyQoqPC4xMQbln4wg9MOl2DPCQz9b9W W9vB8Ju6SO+qYohy/KqYHP+vadOXuvqsDxMWjDK5mQKd72c/knsisaJPEnxHmQ1F1+Cx tpoxsp/WuId7L1owVSw+FwlWlm0fYvMt4iL9g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RbvkCWsoOJcYdBlQI/7Hc4KsAtwOfM63tNAYj64KEgJ7LTN8FtvXClSuW14gYWQ6cm qaHJEp06NgwPsFwn6VL8f6U9JFZuPzJHzViwTt4IvzcgxuCCmfsP8aVjve5yJlR25ZK4 6/8pLIQvuRptrUgGt6J1y/G8A2rjP7enCW1NM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0907151319o33576caakebeb2a86c3e84e56@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:26:13 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: hardware vs software - this time from a blind man's view (was "Re: two little guitar loops") From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:26:14 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Jean Philippe wrote: > Hi Mark, > You know, what I would really like is=A0f... three position mechanical > switches. > But they won't do it because it's too old-fashioned. And the thing is it > would probably be cooler for you sighted folks to because you could be > looking at something else or even inside yourselves while playing. > Meanwhile I would be glad to talk to your man. > Cheers, > JPR > http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel > Well, I'm not sure if I'd call him my man... he's a rouge.... maverick! He is a good friend though. As for 3 position switches, are you sure they're not that as well as having the LEDs in them? Again, I've never touched one so I can't tell. Having them be that instead of having lights wouldn't help much, for me at least. I'm a graphic designer and one thing you learn is that the more glaringly obvious something can be, i.e. obvious light color changes ends up being less noise than something subtle. The APC40 is actually quite nicely designed from an information standpoint as something that was just 3 position switches would cause you to have to shift focus from making music to interpreting a slight height difference on small switches. It's probably the complete opposite of how you'd best like it, but that's how it goes. Instead of a chance to "look inside" it would just be frustrating. Mobius is ugly as hell, but it's still a successful user interface because it's pretty big and clearly laid out. No cool shading to suggest fake depth or bevels, just simple bright shapes on a dark background. I'll fwd your email address to my friend. Take care, Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 22:30:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B186D3BE7C; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:30:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yqZQqAHGs3IA83phXzH62k0Mu7ngNpQ7eWwmh58YFfc=; b=j1eV4M89iEVUuu5f4I014PJVvdXyGt7GrOz8eeelk8gQbGPx0zT4AVGELHZK6yJygc tbWnGp5uaJ1YFykYqQt7CvOdEzvsYz0Uj9JK4XnSrm2s3XV2zgiWGwNQfOR1OISkJxai ju7su8fsKdvY0JNpjbIckRX2wgctmg/7kAjnY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d6K1Qm14Jl8GfEAHmONYvKMHaqy5tf1yOtxqZxJRkCISNlSZfd51qf4J3GSCOcP+aI HnjZuMbneOc9OtbG0vCSfbNneXmrLECh+JfQfWg9P8bz/vmtawRvEiu9q4etYuo2wE4Y Fw+MuJznLsWhoDUhvdFZhmMa6WifK3RgHRJ/Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0907151319o33576caakebeb2a86c3e84e56@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:30:42 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907161530g4b2c9c8ai5b60ec72f66ffde8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: hardware vs software - this time from a blind man's view (was "Re: two little guitar loops") From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:30:42 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Mobius is ugly as hell, > but it's still a successful user interface because it's pretty big and > clearly laid out. I use Mobius extensively but I almost never look at the screen. I prefer memorizing the functions and set them to work by kicking at pedals on the floor that are big enough to not be missed by accident. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 22:53:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E62493BE7C; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XCqz1V+ZkkLABtqjmeDB/SUgvKB5mXZPR3ugGv+Awrw=; b=XfJL3akl/LWC/H75Zrg/Vga/auUlgu0tG7vnePxyYWl/2qQuMf49FlJSdE246tdtga FE65QAbqgkJJJCs4hwaazoAPc1/5aJEEz9fmAs1F+kGe7B4yevb7epgeFyZNMdRwpMkk RoJe/JVfyKAsHxBOxComQf76hNW/igazTRvp4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xSXC/c/B0L8dDfZ40//eMaXa3e7CPgm+2QqNtn7zN8Ff95KI2+5oDdlj6gOuf3Y4Ne YYxPvQN6iBw63WY3pVf+UWam3abggktS3KMPjEX0uGRMqrxRR7hvjYwZQRE3urpr7GYs VkTvBjcbLQ5WS5nBiKFMQ/9netDA9TNlEoIKE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907161530g4b2c9c8ai5b60ec72f66ffde8@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907151319o33576caakebeb2a86c3e84e56@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907161530g4b2c9c8ai5b60ec72f66ffde8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:53:40 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: hardware vs software - this time from a blind man's view (was "Re: two little guitar loops") From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Oh, I agree, but I do look at it from time to time to make sure I know what loop is currently focused and things like that. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> Mobius is ugly as hell, >> but it's still a successful user interface because it's pretty big and >> clearly laid out. > > I use Mobius extensively but I almost never look at the screen. I > prefer memorizing the functions and set them to work by kicking at > pedals on the floor that are big enough to not be missed by accident. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 23:05:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF7F33BE7C; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tkg+ARD/Ch+TaRfSjN+Zb8MnT8enJk0i1syAxlCtrQM=; b=O1NzggjUivThAlRv2Wgs7r8O0PpH/G6kF6fpA3eCX85HSyvE+ZI9qGawmYa1ILlVPO ZXXssHMgAn1GbCeP9DgBAubowIkCwnyI4ZSg+CsG+it5Ngs8eSeX3cVu/L35+tRVnLJ7 JrbHwNoS82bHQJna+u/Coi63rsvUqCXI0quLQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xRbZypKAbV+7fJGMqgeOD5qdNJ5QOO3BnneOrr+JftNDCr+C7bsXYtw1N6gUwppwoo 2hn6Qg6dP6LTzv9W04vsqQws5G8GfFkHPXh3WFDoFK2YBdJCKaU505EqS+ybAmylHX3P RyZ0T9969u25iQ7T69naUla+D/4kwa6DnJ0SE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:05:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eventide Time Factor From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:05:10 +0000 (UTC) eh stereo memory man with hazarai, is stereo too and quite fun! it does varispeed... 2009/7/17, G : > Hi there > Other than the Eventide Time Factor I haven't found a stereo delay pedal > with midi control on the market - so I'm seriously considering it. > > I'm wondering if anyone knows if the TF looper can be quantised in > anyway, be it to the tempo setting or incoming midi sync? > Or is it totally dependant on the timing of the musician's foot? > > Thanks, > -- G. > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 16 23:39:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 631DC3BE79; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:39:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=5vgDmage6m+GVwOjA6VSVHAMvBnC1Lp3+N9CfN45kco=; b=Mx6Nz2DRzblU0Umi2dV4vRkVm8u8CK2S3L1yWb87WtMkYP+pkTzCUAUJOqWkjqqwwj S4dTQWDhTRzFjZEu1eAZHI39N4wn7jLXTlc+3gd/0yPhNWrAOM2dd7K1nXCCoZwLpx4B lbc28iAfD4oY2LVEhCdnfEWgvHtJnu8rIB3/s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=DF7UcuNdnoiDJ07UtjN14mOuCMmlJwO9/XG/sTKTPq/rob+SJ5uQwhDlaMFmCscxUF 1aeW+YZK6jQGO8rXn980gWXl6wIUfu46OnZfUIxO8Kcgu54PMlslPuTvbQb6RNQu/TfU UB/PMfUGXhd+n8BFINKIo6SLmVcSLY+zoMHwM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:39:36 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907161639n6f214d6cnd1bc0bb9fa1b2f55@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Virtual GigSpam: Chinapainting on uStream 3:30pm Sunday 7/19 From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e2bc9469d86046edb2f4e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:39:38 +0000 (UTC) --0016368e2bc9469d86046edb2f4e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well as mentioned in my promo the other day for the Sunday PM *Chinapainting * gig, it was possible that Daryl and I might work out a *Chinapainting uStream* and we're going to do just that and I'm very excited to announce it. This will be as a special feature of my *Sunday Morning at 11 * series on uStream except it's going to be on in the *afternoon*. We're planning to do an hour set beginning at 3:30pm EST. The URL is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 and the times are... *12:30pm PST, 1:30pm MT, 2:30pm CST, 3:30pm EST, 8:30pm UK/England, 9:30pm western Europe, 4:30am (whoa!) Japan.* To find time in your area go to http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html . So I'm very JAZZED about this and please consider tuning in. This will be a 'first' ever for Chinapainting. Let me re mention for those in the NYC area, that evening we'll be locally live at 8pm, at ABC NoRIo , COMA performance series, 156 Rivington, lower East Side Manhattan. $5 admission. Hope to see you, for those in other parts of the world hope to have you connect with us for the uStream show. Best folks Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0016368e2bc9469d86046edb2f4e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well as mentioned in my promo the other day for the Sunday PM = Chinapainting g= ig, it was possible that Daryl and I might work out a Chinapainting uSt= ream and we're going to do just that and I'm very excited to a= nnounce it.
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This will be as a special feature of=A0my Sunday Morning at 11 series= on uStream except it's going to be on in the afternoon.=A0 We= 're planning to do an hour set beginning at 3:30pm EST.
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The URL is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 and the times ar= e...
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12:30pm PST, 1:30pm MT, 2:30pm CST, 3:30pm EST, 8= :30pm UK/England, 9:30pm western Europe, 4:30am (whoa!) Japan.=A0 To f= ind time in your area go to http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html= =A0.
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So I'm very JAZZED about this and please consider tuning in.=A0 Th= is will be a 'first' ever for Chinapainting.
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Let me re mention for those in the NYC area, that evening we'll be= locally live at 8pm, at ABC NoRIo= , COMA performance series, 156 Rivington, lower East Side Manhattan.=A0 $5 = admission.=A0 Hope to see you, for those in other parts of the world hope t= o have you connect with us for the uStream show.
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ReUse, an introspective textural aural
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www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

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--0016368e2bc9469d86046edb2f4e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 00:08:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FAA73BE7C; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A5FC108.4040904@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:08:40 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:08:47 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Jeffrey Koepper. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Sequentaria" on Air Space Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#jul Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 00:58:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAC4E3BE79; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:58:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60907161639n6f214d6cnd1bc0bb9fa1b2f55@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Virtual GigSpam: Chinapainting on uStream 3:30pm Sunday 7/19 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:58:53 -0700 References: <9e0440a60907161639n6f214d6cnd1bc0bb9fa1b2f55@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:58:58 +0000 (UTC) Jim, Thanks for the heads-up. I'll try to listen in. Break a leg . . . or a pick or something. Best, Ted On Jul 16, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Well as mentioned in my promo the other day for the Sunday PM > Chinapainting gig, it was possible that Daryl and I might work out a > Chinapainting uStream and we're going to do just that and I'm very > excited to announce it. > > This will be as a special feature of my Sunday Morning at 11 series > on uStream except it's going to be on in the afternoon. We're > planning to do an hour set beginning at 3:30pm EST. > > The URL is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 and > the times are... > > 12:30pm PST, 1:30pm MT, 2:30pm CST, 3:30pm EST, 8:30pm UK/England, > 9:30pm western Europe, 4:30am (whoa!) Japan. To find time in your > area go tohttp://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html . > > So I'm very JAZZED about this and please consider tuning in. This > will be a 'first' ever for Chinapainting. > > Let me re mention for those in the NYC area, that evening we'll be > locally live at 8pm, at ABC NoRIo, COMA performance series, 156 > Rivington, lower East Side Manhattan. $5 admission. Hope to see > you, for those in other parts of the world hope to have you connect > with us for the uStream show. > > Best folks > > > Jim > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 03:07:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A39AA3BE7E; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:07:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1201 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:07:14 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1247798832; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=D4ONdqMshu20zrYaNrFd8QsLjU0=; b=I3mfUPIj5gGKExHpEWbiZdGZX9Z0NgKe/05PSqwIe4MGnJj1+tLrtyEAISWTxrvf ogqp2DklGLGzrxYU7lPJU/rhEb7xsZKi70gk+7o8cmfT7pcIMQ5zXW+RLkaYb101; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=y5BkBqUu89IA:10 a=agYOPix6zoRK7wHhbMQA:9 a=lVelRcAAbXmj4W5Ar3qtzOakctkA:4 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=5zVrQRtcBFvmFhdtAz0A:9 a=908YqrfcoYuB3ft6CgcA:7 a=rtsDO6u8j2M2hKbVaxJfSJ9DXhoA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=ejyuhas@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) From: "ejyuhas" Message-ID: <0B.76.08309.036EF5A4@smtp04.embarq.synacor.com> To: "'Christo Jota'" , "'Loopers-Delight'" Subject: RE: OT(ish): Dhafer Youssef & Eivind Aarset Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:47:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02D0_01CA0667.6171DA50" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcoGhrC79ghHk/k/SP6cz9lsY5d6fAAAPAvA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <003501ca064b$afad3b40$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:07:14 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02D0_01CA0667.6171DA50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Christo, I'd start with Divine Shadows and then Digital Prophecy. Both of these releases are incredible blends of world music and electronics. If you like Eivind Aarset's playing, then I'd also suggest Nils Petter Molvaer's CD, Streamer. It's live and has some of Eivind's best textural guitar work. Recently, Nils and Arve Henricksen played at Le Poisson Rouge in NYC. It was so good that myself and two friends followed them up to Rochester to see them again, doing two separate nights, two sets per night. Amazing music. And only a handful of dates in the USA. (What's up with that???) I met Eivind and talked to him a bit. He's one of the nicest guys, very humble, maybe eve somewhat quiet. But he sure spoke volumes in his playing. He is one of my biggest influences of late.just can't get enough! Ed in NJ PS on a looping / sampling note, Jan Bang played DJ for Arve Henricksen ans was doing things with an old AKAI sampler that were astounding!!!! ------=_NextPart_000_02D0_01CA0667.6171DA50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = Christo,

 

I’d start with Divine Shadows = and then Digital Prophecy. Both of these releases are incredible blends of = world music and electronics.

 

If you like Eivind Aarset’s = playing, then I’d also suggest Nils Petter Molvaer’s CD, Streamer. = It’s live and has some of Eivind’s best textural guitar = work.

 

Recently, Nils and Arve Henricksen = played at Le Poisson Rouge in NYC. It was so good that myself and two friends = followed them up to Rochester to see them again, doing two separate nights, two sets per night. = Amazing music. And only a handful of dates in the USA. (What’s up with = that???)

 

I met Eivind and talked to him a = bit. He’s one of the nicest guys, very humble, maybe eve somewhat quiet. But he = sure spoke volumes in his playing. He is one of my biggest influences of = late…just can’t get enough!

 

Ed in = NJ

 

PS on a looping / sampling note, = Jan Bang played DJ for Arve Henricksen ans was doing things with an old AKAI = sampler that were astounding!!!!

 

------=_NextPart_000_02D0_01CA0667.6171DA50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 05:55:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE7153BE8A; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 05:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:57:56 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: Eventide Time Factor To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090716-1, 16/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 05:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Hey there. Yup! I've had a lot of fun with my EH SMMH, I think it's the only delay pedal with stereo looping. Apart from the lack of midi sync, including looping quantise, etc, it's only other drawback is it loses a little of the bass end when engaged - but it's intended for guitar, not the bass heavy synth sounds I put through it. =20 My Nova Delay offers enough different delay features that the two delays complement each other really well, both are really good pedals. However neither are midi capable, and that's what I'm after now. The TimeFactor sounds like it's a gem. So I'm just curious about it's looping capability. I realise that unlike the SMMH you can't loop and have delays at the same time. I'm just hoping that it's looper has quantise, and can work with midi sync or the dial in tempo. Unfortunately the two dials that shift the start and end points of the loop sound clunky.=20 As far as getting a decent midi capable stereo looping pedal - well, for now I've given up on the idea. I'm just hoping something better is on it's way. =20 Now that EH have brought out the POG2, I'm thinking of putting together a letter to Electro Harmonix asking if they'd consider redoing the 2880 with a number of improvements. Including among many other things a smaller foot print, 8 track looping, 16 save spaces (each with 8 tracks and a stereo mix down) on the same memory card, much more comprehensive MIDI capability so that a midi foot controller can drive all it's features, and the list goes on, and on... Cheers, -- G. >From: Raul Bonell >Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:05:09 +0200 >eh stereo memory man with hazarai, is stereo too and quite fun! it >does varispeed... > >2009/7/17, G : >> Hi there >> Other than the Eventide Time Factor I haven't found a stereo delay = pedal >> with midi control on the market - so I'm seriously considering it. >> >> I'm wondering if anyone knows if the TF looper can be quantised in >> anyway, be it to the tempo setting or incoming midi sync? >> Or is it totally dependant on the timing of the musician's foot? >> >> Thanks, >> -- G. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 06:00:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84E0F3BE79; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1247810410; bh=ANbNpeFilrH2toCPhPx5fBYWuEOP+1DkZEDLnwvBAj8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Zm8p56tIsCqQRg6hViQyw1SxK1ZFsRrCDSAG0rkNiySqwq1m55L3ObVAtrO9BxWbK+pGOj7Ad2JGrz4xEwMRh/IQxik0ppPrKwFiEtN6m25R/VPrA2bHq4TRkJqUrhWXzVVu2N/VetQ+VpxalujlXV8qXZEi8hy83wVa/ZQGmyE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1H90eTqYP6mdMUv4XQiIW9z7UhloSQkmu5Jq9y7SrdPMjmm4oZkO1cLn6uM8ac2fOd9ujg5c+E51FqH6aIV1BYwoZn83XGY5P8OtyO9Jwhd1SQdamVkaoYN3/MGglEgzRWATnMdE4glRnVd9KhtDQP9QxqQ+qozd2r/DaOauqxE=; Message-ID: <855498.94129.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:00:10 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: Eventide Time Factor To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:00:12 +0000 (UTC) unfortunately not, thought you can trim the loop endpoints via midi i belie= ve but ive never tried it=0Acheers=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A> =0A> I'm wonderin= g if anyone knows if the TF looper can be=0A> quantised in=0A> anyway, be i= t to the tempo setting or incoming midi=0A> sync?=A0 =0A> Or is it totally = dependant on the timing of the musician's=0A> foot?=0A> =0A> Thanks,=0A> --= G.=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 06:05:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFDD93BE7F; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GXoAv62djUcEqz0y4C9q8WqRFey+aR4KUDrKP1ZkuAU=; b=QWrPsIPxQ78dQvsyqs0dcW3VtwemTk/nTzWsEcDFDWLo4bEQ7WcCIHSAz8KaRldV0s h1lBTa0fTKZ5yZONDFukv4q7SwbWZqKqamHURCq+GDdfLpub/znA9ai5tQO0Ee2Ir6kI rxYZoMZl8tqSDqkysIyeJqjQxoTE0FLmbUajE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HOOY5kAGDFHYFkrbp+tPiXiPVl5OUoTmrm5gognB1i1f2BOsoQZLHTkbXPjufcxEyE 93kVu/gNrB0cl3GhNO9xfydwRxjjyhRCiyVRV7eImM405OhFD99/kZThUdD3bkNAS5OE 7Rtl5x7qGRZpTJiqB9IKXrkIWzE51sRJ0098E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:05:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eventide Time Factor From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7ZrzFC.A.iqF.eSBYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:05:18 +0000 (UTC) 2009/7/17, G : > Now that EH have brought out the POG2, I'm thinking of putting together > a letter to Electro Harmonix asking if they'd consider redoing the 2880 > with a number of improvements. Including among many other things a > smaller foot print, 8 track looping, 16 save spaces (each with 8 tracks > and a stereo mix down) on the same memory card, much more comprehensive > MIDI capability so that a midi foot controller can drive all it's > features, and the list goes on, and on... > Cheers, > -- G. you should consider mobius, but in sw context ;-) any combo DAW+mobius (i.e. plogue bidule) will give you ALL what you are asking for at a fraction of the price. >>From: Raul Bonell >>Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:05:09 +0200 >>eh stereo memory man with hazarai, is stereo too and quite fun! it >>does varispeed... >> >>2009/7/17, G : >>> Hi there >>> Other than the Eventide Time Factor I haven't found a stereo delay pedal >>> with midi control on the market - so I'm seriously considering it. >>> >>> I'm wondering if anyone knows if the TF looper can be quantised in >>> anyway, be it to the tempo setting or incoming midi sync? >>> Or is it totally dependant on the timing of the musician's foot? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -- G. > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 06:07:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 391A13BE78; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:07:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1247810823; bh=nF3IfZH+4lqt0DwVDcuD5BIaLO1Y9I677CJHsKO46SM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1GqWYauwnzKiGAA2rDp5Iw5sb90oy3l7cFTYLqNnhLKfhxr3NMTEFTXIv6cZflFtds74oXJAau5+xpANbSVA6uxJdBqA/Zbzkq+pp6bdhmOtUVYgURIl0gdRZTbjBuge2n6vcncbEzvUEiQPGt/gSbgvr5EJQyVXV7Gxkv8RJ5Q= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cmPIl7fBekpzEAny6kaQxOG4r3t9E5m5lns73cT5Xjefa8Z/JbvCfw6/SwOp6hQNRxyL5m8YTLJNZmbjrh5ZRJZA1KBxvHCx+YeZ45Ijglnxzw/2FZRdWvw7SG/oZw5SvP0lK8OlydreCAE1ISRtmdmBv+yGsX1nMJlpLIgdF8Y=; Message-ID: <56478.18512.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:07:02 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Eventide Time Factor To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7FXIQ.A.9wF.IUBYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:07:04 +0000 (UTC) yes,this is really a drag for such an expensive pedal,now the switches are = starting to crap out on me as well and it does not look like eventide is go= ing to release any more updates for it,lots of people seem to be getting up= set in the forums...=0Aso what is the smallest delay looper pedal that can = loop its own delays?=0Athe dl4 is too limited i am contemplating the time b= ender,does anybody have any experience with this one?=0A=0A=0Awww.myspace.c= om/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- G schrieb am Do, 16.7.2= 009:=0A=0A> Von: G =0A> Betreff: Re: Eventide Time Fa= ctor=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Donnerstag, 16.= Juli 2009, 22:57=0A> Hey there.=0A> Yup! I've had a lot of fun with my EH = SMMH, I think it's=0A> the only delay=0A> pedal with stereo looping.=A0 Apa= rt from the lack of=0A> midi sync, including=0A> looping quantise, etc, it'= s only other drawback is it loses=0A> a little of=0A> the bass end when eng= aged - but it's intended for guitar,=0A> not the bass=0A> heavy synth sound= s I put through it.=A0 =0A> My Nova Delay offers enough different delay fea= tures that=0A> the two delays=0A> complement each other really well, both a= re really good=0A> pedals.=0A> However neither are midi capable, and that's= what I'm after=0A> now.=0A> =0A> The TimeFactor sounds like it's a gem.=A0= So I'm just=0A> curious about it's=0A> looping capability.=A0 I realise th= at unlike the SMMH=0A> you can't loop and=0A> have delays at the same time.= =A0 I'm just hoping that=0A> it's looper has=0A> quantise, and can work wit= h midi sync or the dial in=0A> tempo.=0A> Unfortunately the two dials that = shift the start and end=0A> points of the=0A> loop sound clunky. =0A> =0A> = As far as getting a decent midi capable stereo looping=0A> pedal - well, fo= r=0A> now I've given up on the idea.=A0 I'm just hoping=0A> something bette= r is on=0A> it's way.=A0 =0A> =0A> Now that EH have brought out the POG2, I= 'm thinking of=0A> putting together=0A> a letter to Electro Harmonix asking= if they'd consider=0A> redoing the 2880=0A> with a number of improvements.= =A0 Including among many=0A> other things a=0A> smaller foot print, 8 track= looping, 16 save spaces (each=0A> with 8 tracks=0A> and a stereo mix down)= on the same memory card, much more=0A> comprehensive=0A> MIDI capability s= o that a midi foot controller can drive=0A> all it's=0A> features, and the = list goes on, and on...=0A> Cheers,=0A> -- G.=0A> =0A> >From: Raul Bonell <= raul.bonell@gmail.com>=0A> >Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:05:09 +0200=0A> >eh s= tereo memory man with hazarai, is stereo too and=0A> quite fun! it=0A> >doe= s varispeed...=0A> >=0A> >2009/7/17, G :=0A> >> Hi th= ere=0A> >> Other than the Eventide Time Factor I haven't=0A> found a stereo= delay pedal=0A> >> with midi control on the market - so I'm seriously=0A> = considering it.=0A> >>=0A> >> I'm wondering if anyone knows if the TF loope= r can=0A> be quantised in=0A> >> anyway, be it to the tempo setting or inco= ming=0A> midi sync?=0A> >> Or is it totally dependant on the timing of the= =0A> musician's foot?=0A> >>=0A> >> Thanks,=0A> >> -- G.=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 07:13:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C57CC3BE77; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:13:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:13:53 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: Eventide Time Factor Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:13:51 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:13:53 +0000 (UTC) I HAD a timefactor. I had to return it because of the noise it made when the loop start/end point was reached. It wasn't seamless. Made a little blip. Even after the software update it still made the sound. t ----- Original Message ----- From: "G" To: Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:57 PM Subject: Re: Eventide Time Factor Hey there. Yup! I've had a lot of fun with my EH SMMH, I think it's the only delay pedal with stereo looping. Apart from the lack of midi sync, including looping quantise, etc, it's only other drawback is it loses a little of the bass end when engaged - but it's intended for guitar, not the bass heavy synth sounds I put through it. My Nova Delay offers enough different delay features that the two delays complement each other really well, both are really good pedals. However neither are midi capable, and that's what I'm after now. The TimeFactor sounds like it's a gem. So I'm just curious about it's looping capability. I realise that unlike the SMMH you can't loop and have delays at the same time. I'm just hoping that it's looper has quantise, and can work with midi sync or the dial in tempo. Unfortunately the two dials that shift the start and end points of the loop sound clunky. As far as getting a decent midi capable stereo looping pedal - well, for now I've given up on the idea. I'm just hoping something better is on it's way. Now that EH have brought out the POG2, I'm thinking of putting together a letter to Electro Harmonix asking if they'd consider redoing the 2880 with a number of improvements. Including among many other things a smaller foot print, 8 track looping, 16 save spaces (each with 8 tracks and a stereo mix down) on the same memory card, much more comprehensive MIDI capability so that a midi foot controller can drive all it's features, and the list goes on, and on... Cheers, -- G. >From: Raul Bonell >Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:05:09 +0200 >eh stereo memory man with hazarai, is stereo too and quite fun! it >does varispeed... > >2009/7/17, G : >> Hi there >> Other than the Eventide Time Factor I haven't found a stereo delay pedal >> with midi control on the market - so I'm seriously considering it. >> >> I'm wondering if anyone knows if the TF looper can be quantised in >> anyway, be it to the tempo setting or incoming midi sync? >> Or is it totally dependant on the timing of the musician's foot? >> >> Thanks, >> -- G. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 07:18:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A87DC3BE79; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090717071849380.5A8B31C00081@mwinf3521.me.freeserve.com Message-Id: From: Steve Bingham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A5F2776.2060501@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Bidule midi question Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:18:49 +0100 References: <2329C163-1127-4DC4-8FB9-224C598AA133@con-brio.com> <4A5F2776.2060501@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <-9fPEC.A.Br.bXCYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Thanks to Per and Andy I have now got this working as I wanted, mainly by using "Midi to Value" with smoothing as Andy suggested. I've also learned a lot about Bidule in the process!! Best wishes, Steve On 16 Jul 2009, at 14:13, andy butler wrote: > In addition to Per's post, I'd add. > > There's a "bidule" called "Midi to Value" which can convert from > Midi note to an audio control. > It has smoothing too... I guess you'll need that. > > I'd take the output from that and either link parameters to a Gain > control, > or more likely use Building Block>>Maths>>Function and enter "x*y" > in order to control level of the synth. > > > There's also a "midi note remapper". > ...and as "Midi Note Filter". > > So with those 2 you can decide what range of notes are used > to control the volume. > > > Probably I'd make a Bidule Group with one Midi input and the > relevant number of audio ins and outs. > Then all the wiring is hidden, giving a simple component that > performs the function you want. > > good luck, > > andy > > > > Steve Bingham wrote: >> Do any Bidule users out there know how I can do the following, as >> I'm pretty new to the program: >> I have two midi inputs coming into Bidule from external sources, on >> two different midi channels. One is connected up to a synth module >> (Absynth). I would like to use a range of note on values from the >> other input to control the volume in Absynth. >> Any ideas welcome!! >> Thanks, >> Steve > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 07:34:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24DFB3BE77; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 326 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:34:38 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tYPAJd72vCOVIrVYvYibgzWjjZWClXc6NhBzEMW2GxU=; b=SUvsNHsgMG9NwLWJmc8+2XFxwO2HfIXT2z3m/iPpyUk3t1xxA/L72r8Y4BHUXIqj63 h1sky9qjU5ZMoMPuy9EGHRhAfUCsDXJ2K3slgPs0LXhFC5beyJRJX6z1cO41cDlkb+/J jNKE4je3HaTPijfukenIGY7VhKxVnyoNLqB9Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=M3LGKw9r67PgcPMFYK6b9+W1dpdn7rIG/Kji7TtEGbRs/DPzvfH+yZa0Ol3jHm79FS yqhMfy9xqN6Nq4MS9+YMyRNXlbfusYrvf2GxwWYN7/CIR4LpNWklYXnWygEdmTO71l01 X9EGLTg9QrPNYcft8M490xnYcr4somUvye69E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:29:11 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: 10,000 hours From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <19fQIB.A.BOB.PmCYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:34:39 +0000 (UTC) I just read Malcolm Gladwell's book "Outliers", and it makes a convincing argument that there really is no such thing as a prodigy, and it takes at least 10,000 hours of practice to become great, whether you are talking about music or computer programming. The author cites the examples of the Beatles and Mozart. I was having a hard time trying to come up with musical counter examples, maybe Tod Dockstader? Even "anti-musicians" like Alvin Lucier and Brian Eno certainly put in the time developing their chops. I'm pretty convinced that there really is something to this, and that practice is the most important part of developing as a musician or a composer. I'm curious if anyone else has heard this hypothesis and might have an opinion. -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 07:54:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86BF53BE7C; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Message-id: <7C6271FD19FA44C7B5CB43E3423698A3@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: 10,000 hours Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:54:30 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Yes, this is pretty controversial in some circles. I can assure you, as a composer and musician, that symphonies do not pop into most musicians' heads as they did for Mozart. He was a gifted keyboardist and I'm sure that took a lot of practice but there are things that I believe people are born with. I think a musician can get up to those skill/intuition levels with lots of hard work but Mozart obviously had quite a head start and something special was going on there. I think that possibly a good analogy would be that of comedians. I knew even when I was in grade school there were folks that had their brains wired in such a way as to have funny things just pop out of their mouths. I'm sure there were children who are now funny adults who needed to be funny in order to get attention as youths also. \t I don't know of any 'chops' that Eno has besides being a great conceptualist. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Simon" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:29 AM Subject: OT: 10,000 hours >I just read Malcolm Gladwell's book "Outliers", and it makes a > convincing argument that there really is no such thing as a prodigy, > and it takes at least 10,000 hours of practice to become great, > whether you are talking about music or computer programming. The > author cites the examples of the Beatles and Mozart. I was having a > hard time trying to come up with musical counter examples, maybe Tod > Dockstader? Even "anti-musicians" like Alvin Lucier and Brian Eno > certainly put in the time developing their chops. I'm pretty convinced > that there really is something to this, and that practice is the most > important part of developing as a musician or a composer. > > I'm curious if anyone else has heard this hypothesis and might have an > opinion. > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 08:00:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BF1C3BE78; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.no; s=s1024; t=1247817611; bh=IfIxNwFZyM5Lg8zpGMQpZ1FZ3HBjw2TDWVMM9j1i1jM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZZy2Pnpt/Cfku97KhFivoeUmz99QVZGCsxF0ltjTFxNvkZTsfjaHd8BUx53e2Zsl8rbzlDyhdyVfFaHusoGNudaUEhkJwReDqpgmigbXZa6luGu5TpCfC/cXPSra1oqMLXsZBwCsbEULgJB/ztqvpUXG0bDZUriHwaaPQRw5n8o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ewWeoJ8aEusjZyDBxqvZ3g2hHyc8y+4K+bP8sjNfN/bUN5L5nuMhWkMv6875X0aynSMuCpgmEt8Gawx8CgzdaR/uUf4EJmBbz8+lien8Tc1ULG2sNdG4JVkg6UCceZBR0OQ12a+iVBpY+ab4J+TLrLVR2EORj+FppoiBXQIQI1I=; Message-ID: <336697.77525.qm@web23805.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Bbi8lCIVM1k54ep5Q4BjHaX3A.mctfD0euEahO1Nf4vdAXIb1GZEoCmhumq.RK.OWuzP3.2FmQNiHU9HoxX3EYJaIqCgZaViU3X7EMDpxyz4wIyV.L5Q3QEplumOjRUWuWkE5Ca2.0Yv9Qwi_Q_hjPM_BlqG6KLjg5bqqjfT8niB6Pdep_S1qkDgHomVFxH_wc.NTqH3jZWLbeqSSPdGWHsQcuAXu9zR6.N3_3GybUwh7yuyGgRhHzVUXao57OMVIm5ZB6NUbZl5IhZKQDJ7bGMVrVgw_PrN2vlfHEnKHRjhqWbQEFdCCrpxvIedULfgM9NIs_w291BY7BlfSMWJhvJglPDgujgM.SrS X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:00:11 +0000 (GMT) From: rune fagereng Subject: Re: OT: 10,000 hours To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-642770698-1247817611=:77525" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:00:13 +0000 (UTC) --0-642770698-1247817611=:77525 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi ! This is a nice book on this and many topic regarding music and humans: http://www.amazon.co.uk/This-Your-Brain-Music-Obsession/dp/0452288525/ref= =3Dsr_1_2?ie=3DUTF8&s=3Dbooks&qid=3D1247816250&sr=3D8-2 --- Den fre 2009-07-17 skrev Art Simon : Fra: Art Simon Emne: OT: 10,000 hours Til: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Dato: Fredag 17. juli 2009 09.29 I just read Malcolm Gladwell's book "Outliers", and it makes a convincing argument that there really is no such thing as a prodigy, and it takes at least 10,000 hours of practice to become great, whether you are talking about music or computer programming. The author cites the examples of the Beatles and Mozart. I was having a hard time trying to come up with musical counter examples, maybe Tod Dockstader? Even "anti-musicians" like Alvin Lucier and Brian Eno certainly put in the time developing their chops. I'm pretty convinced that there really is something to this, and that practice is the most important part of developing as a musician or a composer. I'm curious if anyone else has heard this hypothesis and might have an opin= ion. --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon =0A=0A=0A _________________________________________________________=0A= Alt i ett. F=E5 Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og=0Anotisblokk. = http://no.mail.yahoo.com --0-642770698-1247817611=:77525 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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= I just read Malcolm Gladwell's book "Outliers", and it makes a
convincin= g argument that there really is no such thing as a prodigy,
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author cites the examples of the Beatles an= d Mozart. I was having a
hard time trying to come up with musical counte= r examples, maybe Tod
Dockstader? Even "anti-musicians" like Alvin Lucie= r and Brian Eno
certainly put in the time developing their chops. I'm pr= etty convinced
that there really is something to this, and that practice= is the most
important part of developing as a musician or a composer.
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--0-642770698-1247817611=:77525-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 08:03:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE1F13BE77; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 231465549/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.199.234/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.199.234 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqsBAJvMX0pPTsfq/2dsb2JhbAAI0D6EDQWJXA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,416,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="231465549" Message-ID: <4A6033CF.6090804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:18:23 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Eventide Time Factor References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Raul Bonell wrote: > eh stereo memory man with hazarai, is stereo too and quite fun! it > does varispeed... > doesn't have Midi Control though ;-( ..but it *is* fun > 2009/7/17, G : >> Hi there >> Other than the Eventide Time Factor I haven't found a stereo delay pedal >> with midi control on the market - so I'm seriously considering it. what about a rack mountable unit? Line 6 do (did?) one, the "Echo Pro" or something like that. and there's always the Behringer Virtualizer, with 5s of stereo delay. andy >> >> I'm wondering if anyone knows if the TF looper can be quantised in >> anyway, be it to the tempo setting or incoming midi sync? >> Or is it totally dependant on the timing of the musician's foot? >> >> Thanks, >> -- G. >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 08:06:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B73EA3BE7C; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090717080610436.6A63B1C00093@mwinf3526.me.freeserve.com Message-Id: <455ADA9A-A0D3-43C9-848A-F3FFBCD36E50@con-brio.com> From: Steve Bingham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT: 10,000 hours Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:06:10 +0100 References: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Doing a quick bit of basic mental maths I reckon I've done an average of, at the minimum, 1 hour a day practice (not counting rehearsals and gigs!) for the last 39 years (more when I was a student, less when I was in my late 20s/30s, and more these days!!). So I make that about 14,000 hours. Does that mean I'm great? (-; Actually my very first classical violin teacher (when I was 7) used to say that it took 7 years to get to a point where one could really get around the violin. Really though I think it's impossible to put a figure on it, at least in terms of years. Perhaps the hours figure is a more useful gauge, but so much depends on the quality of the practice and not the quantity (as anyone who has given instrumental lessons will know!). Meanwhile I'll content myself with the thought that although I may now be classed as officially great, I'm still learning! Keep practicing......... Steve ps. with regard to being a prodigy, one reply has already cited Mozart. Maybe his really great works came later in his short life, but there's got to be something special that allowed him to do pretty amazing musical feats at a very early age. I would also mention Mendelssohn who, for instance, wrote the incredible Octet for Strings at the age of 16. Although I guess if he worked 8 hours a day, 7 days a week on his music he could clock his 10,000 hours in less than 4 years......! On 17 Jul 2009, at 08:29, Art Simon wrote: > I just read Malcolm Gladwell's book "Outliers", and it makes a > convincing argument that there really is no such thing as a prodigy, > and it takes at least 10,000 hours of practice to become great, > whether you are talking about music or computer programming. The > author cites the examples of the Beatles and Mozart. I was having a > hard time trying to come up with musical counter examples, maybe Tod > Dockstader? Even "anti-musicians" like Alvin Lucier and Brian Eno > certainly put in the time developing their chops. I'm pretty convinced > that there really is something to this, and that practice is the most > important part of developing as a musician or a composer. > > I'm curious if anyone else has heard this hypothesis and might have > an opinion. > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 08:07:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 195503BE93; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=c1GcxWthgo4YR/KlaOQxWFwCT+zvCoGgyASeQX7Gw4w=; b=mhjxNY4Sr5VAGMbnYB1rdHlW7wM23liExbBG7gQavxl3WWfr/QOoHAqsjNXgFf+kkC PgavUZ6f+po8Lwpfn+h4uAlIJV0Dgg3qua4+bc94N7Gj336id/TDWGyWJayyu12rg/4D 7DLkSeabSpNyhfojQIkZhuTwsgsoEvRwKbloU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OJcur/L8aSPkG4zjO5m/icRhnCHXneKcoCFINXnIv+kDRtTepDhQ6sH9h3W0Ftqbtg SjyyK29aTM0VL+Xy1CnzTpeYOmBCiCxbDqPr6C6T9rwPStNuq22Q6zCC8FWaTgJHyimy N1iVueKrxQClqkM4XxwqBBrYbRXp0sFZ1LosA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A6033CF.6090804@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4A6033CF.6090804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:07:31 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eventide Time Factor From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:07:33 +0000 (UTC) ... and my old trusty alesis Q2 with also 5 sec... with MIDI possible. 2009/7/17, andy butler : > Raul Bonell wrote: >> eh stereo memory man with hazarai, is stereo too and quite fun! it >> does varispeed... >> > > > doesn't have Midi Control though ;-( > > ..but it *is* fun > > >> 2009/7/17, G : >>> Hi there >>> Other than the Eventide Time Factor I haven't found a stereo delay pedal >>> with midi control on the market - so I'm seriously considering it. > > what about a rack mountable unit? > Line 6 do (did?) one, the "Echo Pro" or something like that. > > and there's always the Behringer Virtualizer, with 5s of stereo > delay. > > andy > > >>> >>> I'm wondering if anyone knows if the TF looper can be quantised in >>> anyway, be it to the tempo setting or incoming midi sync? >>> Or is it totally dependant on the timing of the musician's foot? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -- G. >>> >>> >> >> > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 08:42:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 143E03BE77; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rwTF6Luk/rXcG+yjBnRpTewNuAg0/7P+puopVfl7+Jg=; b=WoqnuoCrnFx40hE1Aj9zxYsm78GUBbUFBE0dLljuF4mQ7n/L9wCsTCS6QemF1MFG9U I+Y/drmZZdK903rVUlei+KJSOcwcwoyKOjGJDbYTvDkOAnpEAq6CjlhMZpPtN+2V/arQ wW3XOF7bPUxEMk88Nv//EVevekYXqIymMZr+Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fjXi26+KabwOvdxE4Y2PXUTEsfga/Cazm0BivsUlkECWMi03iT3sWUxJiHAAapC9/H rlsR6Xxg6ViSX9QDsq5xm0NphRVdSAP2Ycx1dSRGXQsxyA4D0VLQctv9V8a+YH9SDHlS VXU1zRqD5knapHGfQSpDOVpjjN3uUe2tnWh3o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7C6271FD19FA44C7B5CB43E3423698A3@NORBY11> References: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> <7C6271FD19FA44C7B5CB43E3423698A3@NORBY11> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:42:58 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0907170142h4be407f5t11dca05dfeb3b861@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: 10,000 hours From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:42:59 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Toby G wrote: > Yes, this is pretty controversial in some circles. =A0I can assure you, a= s a > composer and musician, that symphonies do not pop into most musicians' he= ads > as they did for Mozart. Well the book contends that for even Mozart it was a matter of practice: "Michael Howe writes in his book Genius Explained, by the standards of mature composers Mozart's early works are not outstanding. The earliest pieces were all probably written down by his father, and perhaps improved in the process. Many of Wolfgang's childhood compositions, such as the first seven of his concertos for piano and orchestra, are largely arrangements of works by other composers. Of those concertos that contain only music original to Mozart, the earliest that is now regarded as a masterwork (No9 K271) was not composed until he was 21: by that time Mozart had already been composing concertos for 10 years." --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 09:20:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9C9A3BE79; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A604239.5040301@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:19:53 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: re: 10,000 hours Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Art Simon wrote: "I just read Malcolm Gladwell's book "Outliers", and it makes a convincing argument that there really is no such thing as a prodigy, and it takes at least 10,000 hours of practice to become great, whether you are talking about music or computer programming." Probably true 95% of the time, Art but check this video out and tell me what you think. This kid, Miguel Russell is 4 years old!!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 09:21:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 277553BE79; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A60428A.7080207@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:21:14 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: re: 10,000 hours Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:21:19 +0000 (UTC) my bad, here's the video of child conga prodigy, Miguel Russell, a refutation of the 10,000 hours to mastery theory. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkB13cZuIvc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 11:14:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0288F3BE7F; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:14:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=X9U6KfHJFL7Wy2+9D/RSSMFxEwhDd8SgzDekg6tYaXs=; b=K3sCn5GrD2m74G21vG8CUNpw6YLdIX21k12FGeCQa4w1DRa6qP7jL7jX/s7WT7/ss4 wbJccCGnP+wk0YLwUCKioStQin+CmhhcmMfU/fHGH0UPEE1dbblf8dYbmnS93bG21MN4 dVfQpRXxqNfwM+vi1uKC5/dwEh7ObCq3Po9lQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YuEgv/VWSpZE302gg8aFYtkCjDT0LLHyhUTzUHPsSAmOjQnOVST5fEN9hczQGUjUuh lqbqdxzc0QwKsyAfdrQ3q+n1Wjs1yglY4OfUaaglpsSGTGoVUXQLtBaHULcaVfHYBFIy 9lBsj85CRqYkTHPObUc78eq8vFh9IWcryEXNI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7C6271FD19FA44C7B5CB43E3423698A3@NORBY11> References: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> <7C6271FD19FA44C7B5CB43E3423698A3@NORBY11> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:14:43 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907170414h71d37563p3e672fe30bf5b9cd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: 10,000 hours From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7J5WE.A.4t.j0FYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:14:43 +0000 (UTC) ...while some just get worse by practicing. ;-)) =C2=A8 The think "practicing" is a difficult word because when used regarding creative arts it doesn't focus on *what* is being practiced. My own view is that there may be contradicting results coming from practicing instrument playing technique and practicing "finding new directions". If you do too much of the first you may end up as a musician that really doesn't come around as very interesting for listeners - unless put into an interesting context by the help of a composer. And vice versa, if practicing only the creatively associative thinking process you may end up as a non player that has to become a composer that needs an ensemble to help out precious ideas move some real air. The zen inspired way I subscribe to myself it to constantly balance these two directions in your own life. Not in your music, in your life - which should include the music. Yes, it just takes a quick look around to see that some people are born with bodily, mental and emotional conditions that pre-dispose them for faster development in the practicing of arts. Like some said regarding Mozart, in an earlier post, that he sort of popped into the game with preset top ranking. To be given such a favorable starting point is of course of great important if one wants to make some difference! There are also examples of people being born extremely gifted but with no interest in developing the actual talent. Maybe this group of people are much bigger by numbers than those who are born gifted and work hard to improve (the Mozart example). Finally, one thing that is often underestimated is how much it really matters with hard work and proper methods to bring out talent. This "secrete truth" has traditionally been turned down by the music business (for marketing reasons) and by media (from "stupidity reasons" I guess). Personally I subscribe to the idea that ninety percent of artistic achievements are the natural outcome of a persons desire to improve. Given it is based on a personally unique take, of course (a copycat ambition can only lead to become close to the target, it simply can't lead any further). This personal touch doesn't need to be extremely overwhelming though, it can be just a very tiny spot to plant the seed and start building from. 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Being a big fan of Fripp=B4s = soundscapes, I=B4m=20 always
trying to get close to his orchestral = sounds with=20 my equipement.
I don=B4t use computer software for = my loopings,=20 just hardware:
RC 50 and the Boss GT 8 - = effectprocessor for=20 guitar,
and Micro-Korg synthesizer, Roland MC = 303=20 Groovebox which has some
cool Synth sounds too.
I would like to control the synth = sounds of the=20 Micro-Korg and MC 303 with my guitar-
cause I=B4m a guitarist, not a = keyboard=20 player.
I just noticed that there is this = guitar-to-midi=20 converter by Peterson Sonuus - G2M.
I watched some you-tube videos and it = looks quite=20 well. I mean it just costs
98 Euros. The only thing that worries = me is that=20 it=B4s just monophonic , which
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What are your experiences with this = converter? Do=20 you know a cheap alternative
with polyphonic possibilities = ?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA0934.59F6DB20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 11:26:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE63D3BE75; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 232942217/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.169.196/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.169.196 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoABAGjxY0pPTqnE/2dsb2JhbAAIzRSEDAWJZw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,234,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="232942217" Message-ID: <4A6457DB.2080702@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:41:15 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Guitar to Midi Converter References: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> In-Reply-To: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Christo Jota wrote: > Being a big fan of Fripp´s soundscapes, I´m always > trying to get close to his orchestral sounds with my equipement. why????? your own distinctive music is great > I don´t use computer software for my loopings, just hardware: > RC 50 and the Boss GT 8 - effectprocessor for guitar, > and Micro-Korg synthesizer, Roland MC 303 Groovebox which has some > cool Synth sounds too. > I would like to control the synth sounds of the Micro-Korg and MC 303 > with my guitar- > cause I´m a guitarist, not a keyboard player. > I just noticed that there is this guitar-to-midi converter by Peterson > Sonuus - G2M. > I watched some you-tube videos and it looks quite well. I mean it just costs > 98 Euros. The only thing that worries me is that it´s just monophonic , > which > means you can´t play chords with it, just single notes. > What are your experiences with this converter? http://tinyurl.com/nmh6e7 Do you know a cheap > alternative > with polyphonic possibilities ? second hand Yamaha G50 + Roland p/u > > Christo andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 11:34:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45C033BE78; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Yhu5h+7fLYTEEKIOUzjWAzXwj9ON9Mt4fH1QlO3PKlw=; b=nidTs6BAzWkU0n8ymnNFHphz6yxd8HlH0oVDVXva7N8+a0IXjZQ1Sp9t0iDPUpJhAr xMF+KqXkj3V5jDj7lCCygwZuFE5UUMxqzGb3FXMB4X9VZtyCpRqYldTqqjShKlLrH7HK dM4RpeYjD92N+8SdH+q6p2fDiGeBpetKIMfXM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ONjF3c0od37eKX+BLcCoG+AjT8P7MQ1HBhj3P7YUeAo7Gth18/iyRjKYVhVDYEz+oB U09EXy6R/qn1VYUUqMkYuRH0nPd6V2qYkEtT8w/yARQTBBlawMxPAZAFfFr8RlnhOi3A hGnDrNGftqzFbZcE/D1iVeNh8B0TaWK5sE7tY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:34:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: why we founded this list From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b9c5e40bef5046f21848f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:34:12 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b9c5e40bef5046f21848f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I love this list as it is. I'm not irritating by OT topics, which I often find interesting. Here people talks about looping technics, gear, performances, other unknown looping artists....I love to have it ALL together in my mail box, rather than pick them up in a forum: in that case I'm sure I'd lost some interesting posts. Let me remember that looping is not only music or for musician, it's also for video makers, designers, DJs, psycologists and architechts, among the others; i really would love to know more about it even outside the musical domain. Per said : "I really love the openness and astronomical headroom of this list" I think it says all. *PS:* I really didnt' like the last "war flames" on this list. I don't (and I can't know) what really happened between the Walker Bros and Mark...I personally meet the Walkers and had a nice vibe with them both; on the othe= r hand, I've never meet Mark in person, but I'm an intense reader of his post= s and I think he's a very interesting person and I would like to meet him someday. But....Mark, let me say that your thoughts could be sincere (as they are) without being offensive. Sorry, but I didn't like the "personal" attack you've made (in my opinion), exposing in public each single thoughs of your= s about the Walker Bros. Being part of a community (even a virtual community like this) involves a self-restrain sometime and you should better expose your feelings directly to the related persons. Just my opinion. Fabio www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo 2009/7/19 Matthias Grob > Hi > I don't post here very often any more, but I did a lot in the past and I > consider myself one of the founders of this list. > List owner Kim does not seem to be much interested in looping any more. > My interest always was of a deeper nature and I think I brought the initi= al > spiritual content. > I was fanatic and I still think of livelooping as a healing method and > would like to improve the world with it. > In 1992, when I wrote the folder for the LOOP delay, the first dedicated > livelooping tool, I started the "loop groop" as "Forum for loopology and > repetitive hapenings" and defined its purpose as: > "Exchange of ideas about composing, recording and distribution of loop > music. > Establishing a place for it in the media and in the record market. > Simpli=EF=AC=81cation of development and distribution of speci=EF=AC=81c = equipment. > A record label ? > A speci=EF=AC=81cally equipped studio ?" > The "condition of membership" I imagined as: > "Introduction of a loop music recording or any other related work (like > optical effects, computer programmes, special electronics, psychological > discoveries etc). Members can receive as much information about the other= s > as they present about their own work. Spiders handle the information > exchange in the net and try to connect people of similar interests. " > (I don't know how this would have been possible, I did not know about > mailing lists at the time) > > When Keith discovered the LOOP delay and called me to Gibson, Kim did his > first job as EE there and learned about looping when one of the units hit > his lab desk to improve it! So we worked together on the EDP long before = we > worked on the promotion. And when the web became spread, he knew how to > setup a site and a mailing list and did it his way... > > Thats why I still feel a fatherly responsibility to support this movement > until it grows by itself and the information about the deeper use of loop= ing > tools becomes spread. > We are not there yet as I want to discuss below. > > Some hours ago, I was going to answer a mail from Rick about the festival= s > and once again thought about what has come out of this and where we are > heading for. I thought about it almost every day since 1986, and since > february, I am writing on the livelooping theory, and collect videos on > youtube and discuss strategies with the most involved looping friends. > So Marks post makes me say something about it all to all. > > This paragraph is about the personal situation, you can skip it: > I am a true friend of the Walker brothers and I also had a good time with > Mark when we have been neighbours for some fantastic coincidence, when I > lived in Gary Halls house on Alameda island. (Gary is one of the fathers = of > livelooping, now retired in Tailand) > Mark and me did not maintain contact, so we may not be friends in the > closers sense - thats live as he said correctly. He is an intense poster > with strong opinions, honest but sometimes hard... > I would love Bill and Rick even if I thought of their festival as useless > or whatnot. its love, I find them of the most good willed and tender and > talented persons I ever met! > > To question the festivals and the group purpose here: > Why do we do all this? > There is a big deep question why we like to play music and why looping is > even more fun, we discussed this over years and I am trying to write an > abstract about it, just wait, I will want to discuss that, too, but now i= ts > about playing live: > > Most of us don't want to make a living or become famous, but have fun and > grow with their music and get a feedback from some listeners sometimes. S= ome > enjoy the exchange of this music and fascination so much that they buy ov= er > sees tickets to get to the meetings - thats an amazing power! It helps to > make the festivals days of big expectations and joy and the festivals I > attended were completely dominated by love, tenderness and spirituality. > So there is not the slightest doubt that the festivals are useful and > should go on and we can only be very thankful to Rick and all the other > organizers for their huge effort to make it happen. > > Still, some of us also want to make it a living. For them it would be gre= at > if the public would come to the festivals and the producers of events and > movies and such would call them up and say: "we decided that some > livelooping music fits our production best, can you do it?" > And those producers would like to just write "livelooping" on their banne= r > and get the house full of livelooping fans. > So how and when can we get there? > > Anyone is free to say on this list that they don't like to travel or play > live or exchange their music and only want to exchange tech infos or have > fun... but it may not be very useful... > ... or don't you agree that this list should mainly serve for those who d= o > want to play in public and spread their music? > ... or should we create a separate list for the professionals? > --0016363b9c5e40bef5046f21848f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I love this list as it is.
I'm not irritating by OT topics, which I often find interesting.
Here people talks about looping technics, gear, performances, other un= known looping artists....I love to have it ALL together in my mail box, rat= her than pick them up in a forum: in that case I'm sure I'd lost so= me interesting posts.
Let me remember that=C2=A0looping is not only music or for musician, i= t's also for video makers, designers, DJs, psycologists and=C2=A0archit= echts, among the others; i really would love to know more about it even out= side the musical domain.
Per said :
"I=C2=A0really love the openness and astronomical headroom of thi= s list"
I think it says all.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
PS: I really didnt' like the last "war flame= s" on this list. I don't (and I can't know) what really happen= ed between the Walker Bros and Mark...I personally meet the Walkers and had= a nice vibe with them both; on the other hand, I've never meet Mark in= person, but I'm an intense reader of his posts and I think he's a = very interesting person and I would like to meet him someday.
But....Mark, let me say that your thoughts could be sincere (as they a= re) without being offensive. Sorry, but I didn't like the "persona= l" attack you've made (in my opinion), exposing in public each sin= gle thoughs of yours about the Walker Bros.
Being part of a community (even a virtual community like this) involve= s a self-restrain sometime and you should=C2=A0better expose your feelings = directly to the related persons.
Just my opinion.
=C2=A0
Fabio
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
2009/7/19 Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com>
Hi
I don't post here very= often any more, but I did a lot in the past and I consider myself one of t= he founders of this list.
List owner Kim does not seem to be much interested in looping any more.
= My interest always was of a deeper nature and I think I brought the initial= spiritual content.
I was fanatic and I still think of livelooping as a = healing method and would like to improve the world with it.
In 1992, when I wrote the folder for the LOOP delay, the first dedicated li= velooping tool, I started the "loop groop" as "Forum for loo= pology and repetitive hapenings" and defined its purpose as:
"= Exchange of ideas about composing, recording and distribution of loop music= .
Establishing a place for it in the media and in the record market.
Simpl= i=EF=AC=81cation of development and distribution of speci=EF=AC=81c equipme= nt.
A record label ?
A speci=EF=AC=81cally equipped studio ?"The "condition of membership" I imagined as:
"Introduction of a loop music recording or any other related work (lik= e optical effects, computer programmes, special electronics, psychological = discoveries etc). Members can receive as much information about the others = as they present about their own work. Spiders handle the information exchan= ge in the net and try to connect people of similar interests. "
(I don't know how this would have been possible, I did not know about m= ailing lists at the time)

When Keith discovered the LOOP delay and c= alled me to Gibson, Kim did his first job as EE there and learned about loo= ping when one of the units hit his lab desk to improve it! So we worked tog= ether on the EDP long before we worked on the promotion. And when the web b= ecame spread, he knew how to setup a site and a mailing list and did it his= way...

Thats why I still feel a fatherly responsibility to support this moveme= nt until it grows by itself and the information about the deeper use of loo= ping tools becomes spread.
We are not there yet as I want to discuss bel= ow.

Some hours ago, I was going to answer a mail from Rick about the festiv= als and once again thought about what has come out of this and where we are= heading for. I thought about it almost every day since 1986, and since feb= ruary, I am writing on the livelooping theory, and collect videos on youtub= e and discuss strategies with the most involved looping friends.
So Marks post makes me say something about it all to all.

This parag= raph is about the personal situation, you can skip it:
I am a true frien= d of the Walker brothers and I also had a good time with Mark when we have = been neighbours for some fantastic coincidence, when I lived in Gary Halls = house on Alameda island. (Gary is one of the fathers of livelooping, now re= tired in Tailand)
Mark and me did not maintain contact, so we may not be friends in the close= rs sense - thats live as he said correctly. He is an intense poster with st= rong opinions, honest but sometimes hard...
I would love Bill and Rick e= ven if I thought of their festival as useless or whatnot. its love, I find = them of the most good willed and tender and talented persons I ever met!
To question the festivals and the group purpose here:
Why do we do a= ll this?
There is a big deep question why we like to play music and why = looping is even more fun, we discussed this over years and I am trying to w= rite an abstract about it, just wait, I will want to discuss that, too, but= now its about playing live:

Most of us don't want to make a living or become famous, but have f= un and grow with their music and get a feedback from some listeners sometim= es. Some enjoy the exchange of this music and fascination so much that they= buy over sees tickets to get to the meetings - thats an amazing power! It = helps to make the festivals days of big expectations and joy and the festiv= als I attended were completely dominated by love, tenderness and spirituali= ty.
So there is not the slightest doubt that the festivals are useful and shoul= d go on and we can only be very thankful to Rick and all the other organize= rs for their huge effort to make it happen.

Still, some of us also w= ant to make it a living. For them it would be great if the public would com= e to the festivals and the producers of events and movies and such would ca= ll them up and say: "we decided that some livelooping music fits our p= roduction best, can you do it?"
And those producers would like to just write "livelooping" on the= ir banner and get the house full of livelooping fans.
So how and when ca= n we get there?

Anyone is free to say on this list that they don'= ;t like to travel or play live or exchange their music and only want to exc= hange tech infos or have fun... but it may not be very useful...
... or don't you agree that this list should mainly serve for those who= do want to play in public and spread their music?
... or should we crea= te a separate list for the professionals?

--0016363b9c5e40bef5046f21848f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 11:47:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03A0B3BE79; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:47:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:47:43 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248090063; bh=tYb9H6nLRpIC4r066bMAsvdXoCECIDp9SmKhyOMunXg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=M8kNH2rniR78N/TmX1FDu1Zx7GE/PhzJnz3DensEOrEUG/0i72aEUgiUmiPdCffG2tZDPD2aM9g7UspP+Cm8a+bs20D26+wvBSv7wxpaJqmOvPSBxmNXTCAfkjnLNHsuZO/cBcCPthcfQGov2ff91DCceJzxt63oY5xHIaIjLd8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TLDL3mHhflRc+dbRBOeXI+ccLrvVzBEXpiVaaa+MPpQQqiHYFnVjnVaRoyw1ffjMjKMpNYOPKJUfgh45Aw0SkYPqI/rhHuk0Dr9DIL0nzoynlXyM+sjjuQr0zYYWvktHjqURm/qvdpHVmhRSunmgFeCJocE50lW4aV5RCs00cTM=; Message-ID: <561871.61099.qm@web51511.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: n35snhUVM1nxLZwX7tMjLIQu97qiemSzlLVMffTCZ.xOpM7mPGgRvMMkMzEyOpqUh024yVfqgsaG6I8uN_6e1DOhyr.7qCzjpI7RT8N1QjRIpFvxs_mpR1AiXwtNPz5RNS1HxpNxWkDjI._UcKAuGHEK7JDpqqasrigfjLCbZseRB6.rs_jy7yBb0wtd8Qp.UNENqziFcHHanCV2xTeJfD8iGSUSbHUBsqKKynUg8a3njhWCQ4lbVWgcnBnY3TwDeijMvgmg0gDeMQfU_8xXlx7dKkg.dU9QJ4lsEQNaUmZIYghG12zSXIx33fj4 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:41:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Marshall Subject: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-755709604-1248090063=:61099" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:47:43 +0000 (UTC) --0-755709604-1248090063=:61099 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0=0A=0A=0A --0-755709604-1248090063=:61099 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 12:04:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0694C3BE77; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gM8kwz6gxefijKRDHwlRRBKKKz34GWjDWhzbLY+Bub8=; b=XjPLgLlQSQzdM5OZNzxoUG0iC2Nrp90BTrVqhjsxXBLOwKNPo+EjDR6kkXB5PGe2Sg HAhPnB7l/iUvk/E+eGOPqeCdMhun5ct1SpXsc9Ax3t5Hb8MqHUJ/mjMAbPOJKqhnDux6 kdvAGD67g/6BCsGDSqqFD3wITnA4x0pR2KjU0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aPNq/DPKIuVD0aeat2sKYs6jfFlhWML3lhHYFmWnR+LGM/dhttErtKK1bHKXKY0dXo uAqKWQZAdhavaWPSi4vqa4bO7fWknri/lOy2TvJJQjDXqNEIe4HGmY++8yGDOk6G/UzG M9vhAW+7XrR/iIWW39ZXAs3hiV9WemSZLnXxg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907170414h71d37563p3e672fe30bf5b9cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> <7C6271FD19FA44C7B5CB43E3423698A3@NORBY11> <66f9cc1e0907170414h71d37563p3e672fe30bf5b9cd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:04:24 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907170504u31380496nae700b34f16d363f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: 10,000 hours From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Though I think there is a certain amount of 'craft' to be developed in one's music whether it be learning the physical with an instrument, electronic device or human voice learning to control moving about the intervals of something sung, I do think and its partly my story to tell that I think 9/10's of the rule in music development is about inspiration and focus. Though I had other musical involvement growing up, I didn't really begin playing the guitaR in a 'serious' way till I was 25 taking influence tgo a degree from Ralph Towner's latent start with the guitar. For me the inspiration/focus came about that time after hearing the late Michael Hedges. I think a bit of all this thread is somewhat valid. I don't really believe anybody is born springing from the womb like Zeus and playing like Mozart or Ingvie Malsteem but I think some can be born into environments that are rich in the arts andf the child is given that foundation for inspiration and awarneness as they grow up. Well as Frank said its time to 'shutup and play my guitar' Jim On 7/17/09, Per Boysen wrote: > ...while some just get worse by practicing. ;-)) > =A8 > The think "practicing" is a difficult word because when used regarding > creative arts it doesn't focus on *what* is being practiced. My own > view is that there may be contradicting results coming from practicing > instrument playing technique and practicing "finding new directions". > If you do too much of the first you may end up as a musician that > really doesn't come around as very interesting for listeners - unless > put into an interesting context by the help of a composer. And vice > versa, if practicing only the creatively associative thinking process > you may end up as a non player that has to become a composer that > needs an ensemble to help out precious ideas move some real air. The > zen inspired way I subscribe to myself it to constantly balance these > two directions in your own life. Not in your music, in your life - > which should include the music. > > Yes, it just takes a quick look around to see that some people are > born with bodily, mental and emotional conditions that pre-dispose > them for faster development in the practicing of arts. Like some said > regarding Mozart, in an earlier post, that he sort of popped into the > game with preset top ranking. To be given such a favorable starting > point is of course of great important if one wants to make some > difference! There are also examples of people being born extremely > gifted but with no interest in developing the actual talent. Maybe > this group of people are much bigger by numbers than those who are > born gifted and work hard to improve (the Mozart example). > > Finally, one thing that is often underestimated is how much it really > matters with hard work and proper methods to bring out talent. This > "secrete truth" has traditionally been turned down by the music > business (for marketing reasons) and by media (from "stupidity > reasons" I guess). Personally I subscribe to the idea that ninety > percent of artistic achievements are the natural outcome of a persons > desire to improve. Given it is based on a personally unique take, of > course (a copycat ambition can only lead to become close to the > target, it simply can't lead any further). This personal touch doesn't > need to be extremely overwhelming though, it can be just a very tiny > spot to plant the seed and start building from. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 12:07:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FF773BE7E; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:07:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 381 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:07:20 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5fa88ba1-52ed-41f2-b3e1-8413218fceed_" X-Originating-IP: [83.100.230.139] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: EDP+ EMI filter, noise Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:00:58 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2009 12:00:58.0638 (UTC) FILETIME=[3F3052E0:01CA06D6] Resent-Message-ID: <0tsofD.A.ciC.4lGYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:07:20 +0000 (UTC) --_5fa88ba1-52ed-41f2-b3e1-8413218fceed_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there guys n gals=2C=20 =20 its been a long time but i have been way doing lots of musical things=2C=20 =20 amongst which I hav had the tops off all three of my edps and changed the = resistors on the old obenheim to match the other two. =20 i now have three echoplexes with the exact same specs and things seem to be= going great... =20 theres just one thing.... HUMMMMMMMMMM =20 the oldest obenheim edp and white face gibson edp both work perfectly quiet= ly no matter if they are grounded or not (im in the uk so a middle pin on a= uk kettle cord goes to ground "earth") =20 the black loop 4 edp+ however emits a craqzy humm from the moment that the = kettle cord is inserted which goes up in volume as soon as the unit is powe= red up.=20 =20 i noticed that there are grounding traces on the pcb ....and the screws are= painted...i have scratched away at the paint and made good contact to the = ground spots on thr board..this has lowered the hum by i would say about 20= % which also confirms to me that the issue is minimised if the flow can fin= d a route to ground. =20 If i use a kettle cord i have modified by cutting the ground ...silence!!! = the problem cures itself..but this is electrically unsafe aqnd i would rath= er not if i can get around it..there seems no reason to imagine it cant be = cued seeing as the older two units are fine. =20 =20 now opening the units and seeing them together confirms to me that the one = thing that my blackface noisy unit has that the other two dont...is he EMI = filter box which is attached directly to the power input=2C the other two h= ave cord inputs that go traight into the circuit board. =20 =20 could anyone confirm if taking out this new emi filter type and replacing i= t with a straight to board connection could cure my problem (or at least no= t damage my echoplex) I cant find out if anything else has been altered in = the blackface componant list that would mean i might nuke something by ommi= tting this emi filter.) =20 any info =20 what it is=2C what does it do..whats with the buzz etc would be really appr= eciated. =20 thanks in advance =20 Phill MyOneManBand=20 =20 From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: New experiment with EDP Date: Tue=2C 10 Feb 2009 22:26:36 +0000 OK another clip. LiveLOOPing Live in this case means that i click record a= nd start to play. No backing=2C live alone in the celler so this is 100% i= mprovised=2C i try to react to the loop and get some development.. It's rather low volume microphone is a e609. Using both OD channel and clea= n channel=2C PAB (preamp boost) is on=2C most of the time. (i think=2C i'm = not always sure on what i am doing when improvising) The looping device is a Echoplex Digital Pro that in the amps effects loop = (post OD)=2C there is also echo and a Catulator tube buffer in the effects = loop. The amp is "The Snake" a Custom By Cougar Mystic Blue Star (100w 80's ODS s= tyle). Guitar is my latest soloway Swan=2C a aqua blue burst korina body wi= th maple top and firebird style pups.=20 The clip is named Chaos=2C harmony and back=2C one take no overdubs echo (a= nd flanger during fade out) added in mix. Thats all LOOPing is FUN=20 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=3D60485&songID=3D7= 321558 Any advice on how to develop my looping skills are welcome... Still need to learn to use multiple loops=2C this one is mainly feedback an= d some multiply plus insert stabs.. _________________________________________________________________ Get the best of MSN on your mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/= --_5fa88ba1-52ed-41f2-b3e1-8413218fceed_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there guys n gals=2C
 =3B
its been a long time but i have been way doing lots of musical things=2C  =3B
amongst which =3B I hav had the tops off all three of my edps and chang= ed the resistors on the old obenheim to match the other two.
 =3B
i now have three echoplexes with the exact same specs and things seem to be= going great...
 =3B
theres just one thing.... HUMMMMMMMMMM
 =3B
the oldest obenheim edp and white face gibson edp both work perfectly quiet= ly =3Bno =3Bmatter if they are grounded or not (im in the uk so a m= iddle pin on a uk kettle cord goes to ground "earth")
 =3B
the black loop 4 edp+ however emits a craqzy humm from the moment that the = kettle cord is inserted which goes up in volume as soon as the unit is powe= red up.
 =3B
i =3Bnoticed that there are grounding traces on the pcb ....and the scr= ews are painted...i have scratched away at the paint and made good contact = to the ground spots on thr board..this has lowered the hum by i would say a= bout 20% which also confirms to me that the issue is minimised if the flow = can find a route to ground.
 =3B
If i use a kettle cord i have modified by cutting the ground ...silence!!! = the problem cures itself..but this is electrically unsafe aqnd i would rath= er not if i can get around it..there seems no reason to imagine it cant be = cued seeing as the older two units are fine.
 =3B
 =3B
now opening the units and seeing them together confirms to me that the one = thing that my blackface noisy unit has that the other two dont...is he EMI = filter box which is attached directly to the power input=2C the other two h= ave cord =3Binputs that go traight into the circuit board.
 =3B
 =3B
could anyone confirm if taking out this new emi filter type and replacing i= t with a straight to board connection could cure my problem (or at least no= t damage my echoplex) I cant find out =3Bif anything else has been alte= red in the blackface componant list that would mean i might nuke something = by ommitting this emi filter.)
 =3B
any info
 =3B
what it is=2C what does it do..whats with the buzz etc would be really appr= eciated.
 =3B
thanks in advance
 =3B
Phill =3BMyOneManBand =3B
 =3B
From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.= com
Subject: New experiment with EDP
Date: Tue=2C 10 Feb 2009 22:26:3= 6 +0000

OK another clip. LiveLOOPing =3B Live in this case means that i click r= ecord and start to play. No backing=2C live alone in the celler 3D"" so this is 100% improvised=2C i tr= y to react to the loop and get some development..
It's rather low volume= microphone is a e609. Using both OD channel and clean channel=2C PAB (prea= mp boost) is on=2C most of the time. (i think=2C i'm not always sure on wha= t i am doing when improvising)
The looping device is a Echoplex Digital = Pro that in the amps effects loop (post OD)=2C there is also echo and a Cat= ulator tube buffer in the effects loop.
The amp is "The Snake" a Custom = By Cougar Mystic Blue Star (100w 80's ODS style). Guitar is my latest solow= ay Swan=2C a aqua blue burst korina body with maple top and firebird style = pups.
The clip is named Chaos=2C harmony and back=2C one take no overdu= bs echo (and flanger during fade out) added in mix. Thats all LOOPing is FU= N 3D""
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=3D60485&= =3BsongID=3D7321558
Any advice on how to develop my looping skills a= re welcome...
Still need to learn to use multiple loops=2C this one is m= ainly feedback and some multiply plus insert stabs..

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Dow= nload Now = --_5fa88ba1-52ed-41f2-b3e1-8413218fceed_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 12:24:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 973413BE79; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3JT+lH87cDuhrIhXz9iFgLfB8oqeQ1zqKwtfAHvogns=; b=QyDrcqzWL7V3uTDozc1wV0oZxJQ3IwAZ6zn4NL45xKNqgNUE9KhX4CqlEIZH+pGfAn GK+hN4M34YfnsdYEFu5NWOeFrwa5ndoGMhoHHbKa277QSDV8OSn8BckbgnAYlhrV4vaA flzNz4EgPBtBK+NYwL5RU6e5QqFu8F/qj11Zc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KfeMAnAJoMSKknSsS0DtlW95Kkw8Vy6iBPprw01IO3UZZ+BeD2EG/Bdjc4qepKyyuz 6HcqurAiVwR6Ja0OiuVQwtzaCXPg5Ge5v6z4eB99MDVJWVAqmLuHexaadXcgng4U5vFs fe1ymZlbQxG09YjHG1TIbGFxYLl3NKM+njAI4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60907170504u31380496nae700b34f16d363f@mail.gmail.com> References: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> <7C6271FD19FA44C7B5CB43E3423698A3@NORBY11> <66f9cc1e0907170414h71d37563p3e672fe30bf5b9cd@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60907170504u31380496nae700b34f16d363f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:24:36 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907170524o1df2bddajbbac793b3dd51f22@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: 10,000 hours From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <21gZND.A.qED.E2GYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:24:36 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Though I think there is a certain amount of 'craft' to be developed in > one's music whether it be learning the physical with an instrument, > electronic device or human voice learning to control moving about the > intervals of something sung, I do think and its partly my story to > tell that I think 9/10's of the rule in music development is about > inspiration and focus. How about considering "inspiration and focus" another of those "crafts"? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 12:33:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E8313BE7C; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:33:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=UPwwXvLd6g3VksKas5k4FCLXngVYj+G7WFBBvgDydoVJ+BssSosfQ1ErNi0lPsC58ApxgmBFhegqGHMC08vqZHsa/hDFOOXkECsHhdHMFrze3gIaFR0D3IwF0415pFli; Message-ID: <20090717072702.tvve8daeo8c00w40@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:27:02 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 10,000 hours References: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> <7C6271FD19FA44C7B5CB43E3423698A3@NORBY11> <66f9cc1e0907170414h71d37563p3e672fe30bf5b9cd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907170414h71d37563p3e672fe30bf5b9cd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:33:44 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Per Boysen : > > The think "practicing" is a difficult word because when used regarding > creative arts it doesn't focus on *what* is being practiced. > I would suppose that after one practices for ten thousand hours, one would become very good at practicing. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 14:39:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D0403BE77; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:39:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=CLlkx/pt43MVqI/MV7wILqOBIS8cmRQmSvEfzHh9yjM=; b=N/+XSQ09PQ/GN5t5qow9V26wCbXoRiXREh/EJPOQTJk0+Grjx0nk/agjcvW+64sok1 6OFeYLsp70CsVe+IROdAZpdlM5NoiweG+n+FmeVwQ8tfK0vUqQxMZ3pWB0cM1tEFWBuC 5XvAYMuLrJkxT5PwTjCaOfRsLpGJhCWjMzJHA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ufxeWuGzJta/5V/ejmsrgvLhJ7Z3mFZWhUgqDdS8etlPSL7yuTkdxQLhyJaEKhViIM X/KaAV4NTTHL3bT3jo6YuUoXsHEzwhidsYTMPLO6tyLDQgipoocAV4p/8z7bZ1tF0LBM JpCeBYB15cEBShsn9fNFLpPEIVjDgtMB8Pd9M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20090717072702.tvve8daeo8c00w40@mail.kevinkissinger.com> References: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> <7C6271FD19FA44C7B5CB43E3423698A3@NORBY11> <66f9cc1e0907170414h71d37563p3e672fe30bf5b9cd@mail.gmail.com> <20090717072702.tvve8daeo8c00w40@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:39:35 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 037f27576c97ba56 Message-ID: <101191640907170739w16cf0fb9o8a24066b596baea7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: 10,000 hours From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362839b6d92204046ee7c121 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:39:38 +0000 (UTC) --0016362839b6d92204046ee7c121 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit touche On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:27 AM, wrote: > Quoting Per Boysen : > >> >> The think "practicing" is a difficult word because when used regarding >> creative arts it doesn't focus on *what* is being practiced. >> >> I would suppose that after one practices for ten thousand hours, one > would become very good at practicing. > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --0016362839b6d92204046ee7c121 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable touche

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:27 AM, = <kkis= singer@kevinkissinger.com> wrote:
Quoting Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>:

The think "practicing" is a difficult word because when used rega= rding
creative arts it doesn't focus on *what* is being practiced.

I would suppose that after one practices for ten thousand hours, one would = become very good at practicing.




--
Warren
http://www.ubetoo.com/Arti= st.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
http= ://www.warrensirota.com
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On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Warren Sirota = <wsirota@wsde= signs.com> wrote:
touche=20


On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:27 AM, <k= kissinger@kevinkissinger.com> wrote:
Quoting Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>:

The think "= practicing" is a difficult word because when used regarding
creativ= e arts it doesn't focus on *what* is being practiced.

I would suppose that after one practices for ten tho= usand hours, one would become very good at practicing.

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--001636c5a504eb12c6046ee82a6b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 15:18:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 940A53BE79; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RC7UtD+ur+4cRVlY35YwdgxxN3K25o6DqCtozmOB9GI=; b=d10lh+ZETwplEYeAyDKcxBPJFW3xnd1k8yKfNFbg/0/TJmLxce4nLdWxY6FxTvIiRA qNR5hzKMb2oAMxNlV3o2YtROdNlt5prY4DX4JKIZJl//aH2SMRbqI3Q8gMnIMVnDSTtd tBnhb7bm0YXAx4GF6ZzmDce35ZuXY8Rsb/1ts= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=SxCJfhGZYOYrNIcy3tCGw/ihhk/qBISflHHDnAvC2F7N657g/7sNe6TlpyEy/EP0oU 288HhqoU42XpzPzKIzzPF9HNlyadDI+rb1XcIuM7jKA+u+VPWDvnSfj+9vM2ZhB0ng2W yMx4Qbiux0aVqxZGICGWGPlWCm1nlntkA79Vg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:18:15 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Digging through my stuff... From: Tony K To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2bWcQB.A.dbB.4YJYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Been digging though my recordings and thought I'd share this one. I did it for the Write an Album in a Month a few years ago. http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/Hypertropic.mp3 Enjoy, -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 16:07:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F2023BE77; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7ROwNbBjSrLWa4wWKvVajkcYG5zL7of57+ZTX7052Ws=; b=PqHDx2luJWA7cpd2e4pj9pAy1rzdVRVSviQmfaXJgnhpFyB6QaaBuTE56gHbfzJvnG GsP843X2exhzAtd8Z548cffAtmotLnUuYsVAk5c9DJrxC5roaGxwHJKV6hvPDGaridqE JvtMPYAZ18bnULKN+Lf+ypjV1hZTw1zf5dYkk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=F+ipGcyhJ/5HcjBVPSoPb2C/R707NPB91bgTV5EIPkC7YLNSbjWrJU7FSRNlDKIPdT 2rmUX8X13Wh2GPNNt3CyKlCQkugDEPgVAOgtpgikr7Nuk7mZE4kyTZwAHe+PpXL5hGv3 4OahJlMlZPt5rBXDeS94xT9oB5cjwIzdFbBjw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:07:22 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907170907u2ff71941q8ba2ba79b7593f79@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: 10,000 hours From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Being a prodigy doesn't mean you enter the world already being an accomplished composer/whatever. It means you have the gift to become one of you try to. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 16:31:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 185EA3BE7C; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907170907u2ff71941q8ba2ba79b7593f79@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT: 10,000 hours Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:31:50 -0700 References: <7334ca1b0907170907u2ff71941q8ba2ba79b7593f79@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:31:53 +0000 (UTC) On Jul 17, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Being a prodigy doesn't mean you enter the world already being an > accomplished composer/whatever. It means you have the gift to become > one of you try to. And Gladwell's point is that it takes 10,000 hours of "practice" to realize that gift and that 10,000 hours of practice takes an environment conducive to such work (together with an appropriate temperament and inclination). Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 16:52:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B47FD3BE78; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vRxxcCsiUA+ph0hKNCwlzRYUC1OeNjU1krS4t7Z5YQ0=; b=r6S1tVIwXqcfBwCcDDY266jCzCBvcuq/lgOiPHVonj3jkivAMEpa/q3qGMh3UMOSjI /PZ/v5B7ykZ8Oq7rw8V5Uwa7W6lhheAawcJK7fBfMQN/UqFSXURu3lCQNhASuskiw7uV nYZU071vPC9GjxNN/tMvnjAG6WmlOKTMosv4k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=xSlNfY+mbjOFHGqBLem6/w9CsMH6eZGZWBWZ3UuX+pRvLdGZNC6l4asTU5xOXYBbfR W17QWvEmyYyTvLhWQOxRUGK6y4v3aJG8aqdvf48X8VJEtGCbFcX8FNMLrUekjDRadBRr QYqjhR94vxZp2MTNvz+6ROXk3XeBBdsmdREbU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:52:37 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907170952o3b31141cufb624a4a9569132@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: 10,000 hours From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:52:40 +0000 (UTC) > And Gladwell's point is that it takes 10,000 hours of "practice" to reali= ze that gift and that 10,000 hours of practice takes an environment conduci= ve to such work (together with an appropriate temperament and inclination). And my point is that I challenge both the actual number of hours and the necessity for the environment. See H=E4ndel or Camus. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 16:57:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F32B93BE79; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:57:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=U5MlWkw3EjYZU0ic+5a8bgEek1Zahj97CIiXHidQMTKAoaWj0X2YXCcTJ1Dy25b6SXzyp0US4OttOmJzSYqUFU2vpEGpRD6G6ny+PTMYmAfbd/w4YeKOerPNds4OFNqZ; Message-ID: <20090717115748.1d7lbq2mf404ccgg@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:57:48 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: 10,000 hours References: <7334ca1b0907170952o3b31141cufb624a4a9569132@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907170952o3b31141cufb624a4a9569132@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: <2Oal0B.A.zqE.N2KYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:57:49 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Rainer Straschill : > >> And Gladwell's point is that it takes 10,000 hours of "practice" to =20 >> realize that gift and that 10,000 hours of practice takes an =20 >> environment conducive to such work (together with an appropriate =20 >> temperament and inclination). > > And my point is that I challenge both the actual number of hours and > the necessity for the environment. See H=E4ndel or Camus. > > I went back through my practice logs and discovered that I stopped =20 practicing after 9,999 hours. DAMN! One f'n hour from being a prodigy. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 17:18:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB3443BE75; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:18:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Wxb+ha4N6yvUBjpCYuOHQIu/OfwFNrzs7fnBUuTAcEA=; b=fcg1S0rVO5+iQP0JRKSsa4FGPYiy4oM6Y53Au5YF1sc3rNR6/H7/V/hIT5tokrpSU5 BLB+ok8VN/XbUZFmpjrsO3ZgQRunWNbdU8BcWku/rmXGZ+2rxy96/jGwd55NxatT5/lt qVitnvGdX64W9ogjd4EeKQ8qr9mOnuw/uJ4lg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fmLbRqBQRuIL1oUqEasy7gM+AZakyOKzrR+hDspP+W7BilwWhmW8Ec7tPkifnMyMhl RDRA9GvyD95acnNWwfLgaPO7nxMzuAAyjPdz6aTdmp/cyCDruQPTYxeIe9iupJAactiP V106GkvPeZHU8c5ZOcTe7Jk2xQ1Ui8Pnhz7MA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090717115748.1d7lbq2mf404ccgg@mail.kevinkissinger.com> References: <7334ca1b0907170952o3b31141cufb624a4a9569132@mail.gmail.com> <20090717115748.1d7lbq2mf404ccgg@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:18:32 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907171018v5ed0f8adub889b9feaf11970c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: 10,000 hours From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:18:36 +0000 (UTC) Yakayakayaka Kevin that sucks man, just one more hour, argh! Pretty funny.= .. All good points... On 7/17/09, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com w= rote: > Quoting Rainer Straschill : >> >>> And Gladwell's point is that it takes 10,000 hours of "practice" to >>> realize that gift and that 10,000 hours of practice takes an >>> environment conducive to such work (together with an appropriate >>> temperament and inclination). >> >> And my point is that I challenge both the actual number of hours and >> the necessity for the environment. See H=E4ndel or Camus. >> >> > I went back through my practice logs and discovered that I stopped > practicing after 9,999 hours. > > DAMN! 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--_----------=_12478532691524924208-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 19:11:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA8493BE7C; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UvIr2sK5ilBeC0MLKDLIRCY5KDkIL0fr+yoqkwP7JlQ=; b=OYHHmSVpsMo2/SR7MqPHYBP3r6SEwmMLhPhWp2tYC03Vo4CrGdSNduKdj2pbSHFGC7 ITQ7o9fiKL9fNWiweNhSQl+d226NdBKzWZUI2MZGt90eOu5Hq8PwDj48qXayh+oe0pHe cVSLNZ9ck/Z3Wz006H/guxBjCm9+w9K77gwkI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nA0F0PZ0jVV9DluOaUpjroimpL5hfwL8wxX7N5O+IF1MExdqTlEEHeZyYJcexYY2nn SwxfoM0bE/CVOvE0D/k32X0t9sMw1geXet55Wz4HFZYbMsJTq3hi2fSJOkBrBPFbfdkF xKfMJQMK9+mLC7t3R6iyy5aZCVT1TolreRh6I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:10:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: sequences and the lp-1 From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f631106980aa046eeb8cb1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:11:02 +0000 (UTC) --001485f631106980aa046eeb8cb1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i originally posted this on the looperlative forum, but bob asked me to post here as well... now that bob has implemented note values as controllers, i've been messing around using my drum machine as a sequencer i have each of the drum sounds (which send a midi note) mapped to various functions like play, stop, play retrig, reverse and various pitch values here are some simple examples... in each, you'll hear the straight loop and then i turn on the sequence. the lp-1 is running through a lexicon mpx-1 for filters and delays etc which are synced to the loop/sequence http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/pitch.mp3 - this is just a simple pitch change sequence http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/pitchstutter.mp3 - this is a pitch change sequence with a stuttery retrig http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/trance.mp3 - a trancegate http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/reverse.mp3 - a delay that reverses every bar - (the lp-1 was in overdub with feedback at 30% and the drum machine changed the direction of the loop every bar) and messing about with 4 half speed commands in a bar, fed through a filter and delay - just had to grab a quick recording of this... http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/speed.mp3 - 1/4 note half speed shift mini-soundscape i think i'm only scratching the surface here...there's definitely lots of fun to be had with sequenced pitch changes and i havn't even played around with scramble yet. i know some of you chaps with lappytops have been doing this kind of thing for ages, but i'm having fun! so if anybody has any more ideas for cool sequences, please chip in! (Per....!?!) sim --001485f631106980aa046eeb8cb1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i originally posted this on the looperlative forum, but bob asked me to pos= t here as well...

now that bob has implemented note values as contro= llers, i've been messing around using my drum machine as a sequencer
i have each of the drum sounds (which send a midi note) mapped to vario= us functions like play, stop, play retrig, reverse and various pitch values=

here are some simple examples...

in each, you'll hear t= he straight loop and then i turn on the sequence.

the lp-1 is running through a lexicon mpx-1 for filters and delays etc = which are synced to the loop/sequence


http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/pitch.mp3= - this is just a simple pitch change sequence

http://= www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/pitchstutter.mp3 - this is a pitch change s= equence with a stuttery retrig

http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/trance.mp3 - a = trancegate

http://www.s= imeonharris.co.uk/misc/reverse.mp3 - a delay that reverses every bar - = (the lp-1 was in overdub with feedback at 30% and the drum machine changed = the direction of the loop every bar)


and messing about with 4 half speed commands in a bar, fed through = a filter and delay - just had to grab a quick recording of this...

http://www.simeonh= arris.co.uk/misc/speed.mp3 - 1/4 note half speed shift mini-soundscape<= br>

i think i'm only scratching the surface here...there's defi= nitely lots of fun to be had with sequenced pitch changes and i havn't = even played around with scramble yet. i know some of you chaps with lappyto= ps have been doing this kind of thing for ages, but i'm having fun!

so if anybody has any more ideas for cool sequences, please chip in! (P= er....!?!)

sim

--001485f631106980aa046eeb8cb1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 19:15:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E95ED3BE80; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:15:00 -0500 Subject: RE: 10,000 hours Thread-Topic: 10,000 hours Thread-Index: AcoGsQyVnbX0LJ80QHOBvls9J9IFtQAYVNeg Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE318610D@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ninja-pim: Scanned by Ninja acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <1GTrtC.A.o6B.62MYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:15:06 +0000 (UTC) > I just read Malcolm Gladwell's book "Outliers", and it makes a > convincing argument that there really is no such thing as a prodigy, > and it takes at least 10,000 hours of practice to become great, > whether you are talking about music or computer programming.=20 Speaking for computer programming, I wouldn't say this is true but I guess it depends on how you define "great". The average programmer works around 2000 hours a year. Of course not all of that is "practice" but factor in free time projects, and pre-employment education and it is not unreasonable to say that someone with 5 years of professional experience has clocked 10,000 hours of practice. That would include most of the programmers in the world, and if my work experience is any indication, very few of them are who I would consider "great" :-) 10,000 hours might get you "professional". You would be able to compete in the job market and be a valued team member. But great? I think greatness as a programmer is much harder to quantify than greatness as a musician. Many people think Linus Torvalds is great, but he basically just wrote a Unix kernel which was hardly new or monumentally difficult. He was certainly very *influential* but to me that is not necessarily the same as greatness. Jeff (60,000 hours and still not great) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 19:39:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63E783BE7E; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=q0T+Uby+HY4t5ABP6VM+1aXZiN8rQ+wdh0LZoh57SKE=; b=r4dXtX+G7+xL/amaUwCxiBB5HG0Zr8snfVA+y1WB8G/xko+fnbqvu8mcDlnzV49XgF AGl8mNoSwDysRec6gS30+JjkoSn+AS7LdmNM3sQ+PyZMOWjFqnxRiDHb3xAp6/KNnT8S 1q84yE5PQDhs87f0pTLBo7YwEXjSPYvExOiLk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SCsd+ro9XZUUE++gz82d3CSMX5MO15fxkutsy+Rtv6kYCUyNhskfy4W2WAEmTUhnHL 1zL3ejNwX2hpyPqRDMVPezwcDM/jQGa0r4lk87/FiAoiq2alsqUH+mtt9IrCsPszYB75 lk1o/uhfpEykl/mpCzJowdWHmKspC9RoUyflY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <455ADA9A-A0D3-43C9-848A-F3FFBCD36E50@con-brio.com> References: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> <455ADA9A-A0D3-43C9-848A-F3FFBCD36E50@con-brio.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:39:48 -0500 Message-ID: <2871c3a90907171239x46f3a11w4c7ff4f31c346d9f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: 10,000 hours From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:39:49 +0000 (UTC) In my opinion, with most things, quality surpasses quantity. This reminds of a joke popular among teachers that goes as follows: "He once told me he had twenty years of teaching experience, but I later found out he only had one, repeated twenty times." Don't get me wrong, Outliers is a great read (as are other Malcolm Gladwell books, especially Blink). cheers, Sylvain On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Steve Bingham wrote= : > Doing a quick bit of basic mental maths I reckon I've done an average of,= at > the minimum, 1 hour a day practice (not counting rehearsals and gigs!) fo= r > the last 39 years (more when I was a student, less when I was in my late > 20s/30s, and more these days!!). > > So I make that about 14,000 hours. > > Does that mean I'm great? =A0(-; > > Actually my very first classical violin teacher (when I was 7) used to sa= y > that it took 7 years to get to a point where one could really get around = the > violin. Really though I think it's impossible to put a figure on it, at > least in terms of years. Perhaps the hours figure is a more useful gauge, > but so much depends on the quality of the practice and not the quantity (= as > anyone who has given instrumental lessons will know!). > > Meanwhile I'll content myself with the thought that although I may now be > classed as officially great, I'm still learning! > > Keep practicing......... > > Steve > > ps. with regard to being a prodigy, one reply has already cited Mozart. > Maybe his really great works came later in his short life, but there's go= t > to be something special that allowed him to do pretty amazing musical fea= ts > at a very early age. I would also mention Mendelssohn who, for instance, > wrote the incredible Octet for Strings at the age of 16. > > Although I guess if he worked 8 hours a day, 7 days a week on his music h= e > could clock his 10,000 hours in less than 4 years......! > > > On 17 Jul 2009, at 08:29, Art Simon wrote: > >> I just read Malcolm Gladwell's book "Outliers", and it makes a >> convincing argument that there really is no such thing as a prodigy, >> and it takes at least 10,000 hours of practice to become great, >> whether you are talking about music or computer programming. The >> author cites the examples of the Beatles and Mozart. I was having a >> hard time trying to come up with musical counter examples, maybe Tod >> Dockstader? Even "anti-musicians" like Alvin Lucier and Brian Eno >> certainly put in the time developing their chops. I'm pretty convinced >> that there really is something to this, and that practice is the most >> important part of developing as a musician or a composer. >> >> I'm curious if anyone else has heard this hypothesis and might have an >> opinion. >> -- >> Art Simon >> simart@gmail.com >> myspace [dot] com/artsimon >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 19:45:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E7E23BE7C; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1acqohSoMKoS0Jd31qSeXZKVf/fqAIy+P4/WNreoCug=; b=M9rULxj6onIvC1DaekEPXSF3/PPoJZzQ2JvLYlIgXnM9QMfP7tBu2MHYKb211egCSe QCCQKusVzxXt2+CoPXaY0jQ8SJz1be1SmmbihaINWGDRs7HOWM2iQ/EaZ45QKkUQe3zN jO7B41YFz8KgDLpl1jnj1BBnBRNK600IStUAQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DiJ/LZty6cixFVQqcg1DfHqYYZwfvDgMCaas/JlOCRY3yK359bVHn9Rm/tghbphEW8 WT/xhPzG7fCz+scj6NtLay7/79P+TCTZRa9pIIsLBqPPI4M5z7XQFwCfQTwg46m40JuK 2A20iJaE5ZlE8EzmuvfsIpfBhRc1aneak8i9c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:45:05 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907171245g690e6e47r5485a7d30decf9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: sequences and the lp-1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:45:08 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i think i'm only scratching the surface here...there's definitely lots of > fun to be had with sequenced pitch changes and i havn't even played aroun= d > with scramble yet. i know some of you chaps with lappytops have been doin= g > this kind of thing for ages, but i'm having fun! > > so if anybody has any more ideas for cool sequences, please chip in! > (Per....!?!) Wow, what cool sounds Sim! Make some awesome music with those tricks! I too started doing that stuff in hardware, first using a Repeater and an Alesis sequencer. Got the tip from David Torn. At Z=C3=BCrich loopfest 2005 Bill Walker used his guitar sequencer to drive the Repeater and I used a Powerbook to send sequences to an EDP and Augustus Loop on the laptop. But over the years I have actually minimized the number of sequences I use, because the technique is so powerful to give differently sounding results depending on what you apply them to. Generally I use only two sequences of HalfSpeed/NormalSpeed/DoubleSpeed jumps and two sequences of SUSSubstitute. For the SUSSubstitute patterns I usually "play" the Secondary Feedback of Mobius to change the amount of how much of the old layers will be kept or replaced by my live playing (same as EDP's "Replace Mode" etc). One pattern close to straight sixteenth notes like a tremolo grid, and the other on a groovy pattern. Each of these four sequences I keep in five variations, programmed to suite the time measures 4/4, 5/4, 6/8 and 7/8. And I have carefully blended up and down speeding in order to make the "speed stuttering" loop finish at the same timing as it would if not being "speed stuttered". I think that is a really good advice, because this makes it possible to play around with it more like an instrument - it stays in sync with parallel loops no matter the mangling you set off. A second good advice is to explore this stuff in overdub mode as well; then you make a strange sound of the background layers and you will get some strange sounds back in the next round from your present overdubbed live playing i.e. the "variation effect" in the listeners ear will be double the loop length. Oh, almost forgot one cool pattern (actually keeping this one too in four versions for the different time measures) and that is a pattern that overdubs a short chunk (like a 32th note) then reverses and speed shifts to overdub again at the same spot etc etc. This is repeated four times to create a four note chord hit at the overdub spot... given you play one note during the half second it takes. Maybe this is not of great use for guitar playing because on a guitar you could as well just play a muted chord strum once and get the same musical function. But I like the odd sound I get from this with the flute, sounds close to a hammond back-beat organ with a bit quirky sync between "the four finger of the players chord grip hand". Finally, each chord hit is designed, by balancing up and down speed shifting, to not delay or speed up the loop related to other parallel loops. With Augustus Loop, EDP and Repeater I did these things with MIDI clips in Ableton Live but since picking up Mobius five years ago I have been using the same patterns as custom scripts in the looper. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 19:51:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 717323BE79; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090717195058480.754F27000086@mwinf2322.orange.fr Message-ID: From: "Jean Philippe" To: References: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> <455ADA9A-A0D3-43C9-848A-F3FFBCD36E50@con-brio.com> <2871c3a90907171239x46f3a11w4c7ff4f31c346d9f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: 10,000 hours Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:50:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008E_01CA0728.A9B506E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:51:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01CA0728.A9B506E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Didn't read the book yet, and I would be glad to know if it exists in = audio. But what I can say about this is that it's all a matter of balance. Gift = without work gives a lot of mess with fantastic ideas every once in = awhile. Work without gift gives boring and academic results. Gift and = work together gives Mozart, Mandelson or Frank Zappa. JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sylvain Poitras=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: OT: 10,000 hours In my opinion, with most things, quality surpasses quantity. This reminds of a joke popular among teachers that goes as follows: "He once told me he had twenty years of teaching experience, but I later found out he only had one, repeated twenty times." Don't get me wrong, Outliers is a great read (as are other Malcolm Gladwell books, especially Blink). cheers, Sylvain On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Steve Bingham = wrote: > Doing a quick bit of basic mental maths I reckon I've done an = average of, at > the minimum, 1 hour a day practice (not counting rehearsals and = gigs!) for > the last 39 years (more when I was a student, less when I was in my = late > 20s/30s, and more these days!!). > > So I make that about 14,000 hours. > > Does that mean I'm great? (-; > > Actually my very first classical violin teacher (when I was 7) used = to say > that it took 7 years to get to a point where one could really get = around the > violin. Really though I think it's impossible to put a figure on it, = at > least in terms of years. Perhaps the hours figure is a more useful = gauge, > but so much depends on the quality of the practice and not the = quantity (as > anyone who has given instrumental lessons will know!). > > Meanwhile I'll content myself with the thought that although I may = now be > classed as officially great, I'm still learning! > > Keep practicing......... > > Steve > > ps. with regard to being a prodigy, one reply has already cited = Mozart. > Maybe his really great works came later in his short life, but = there's got > to be something special that allowed him to do pretty amazing = musical feats > at a very early age. I would also mention Mendelssohn who, for = instance, > wrote the incredible Octet for Strings at the age of 16. > > Although I guess if he worked 8 hours a day, 7 days a week on his = music he > could clock his 10,000 hours in less than 4 years......! > > > On 17 Jul 2009, at 08:29, Art Simon wrote: > >> I just read Malcolm Gladwell's book "Outliers", and it makes a >> convincing argument that there really is no such thing as a = prodigy, >> and it takes at least 10,000 hours of practice to become great, >> whether you are talking about music or computer programming. The >> author cites the examples of the Beatles and Mozart. I was having a >> hard time trying to come up with musical counter examples, maybe = Tod >> Dockstader? Even "anti-musicians" like Alvin Lucier and Brian Eno >> certainly put in the time developing their chops. I'm pretty = convinced >> that there really is something to this, and that practice is the = most >> important part of developing as a musician or a composer. >> >> I'm curious if anyone else has heard this hypothesis and might have = an >> opinion. >> -- >> Art Simon >> simart@gmail.com >> myspace [dot] com/artsimon >> > > > ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01CA0728.A9B506E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
Didn't read the book yet, and I would = be glad to=20 know if it exists in audio.
But what I can say about this is that = it's all a=20 matter of balance. Gift without work gives a lot of mess with fantastic = ideas=20 every once in awhile. Work without gift gives boring and academic = results. Gift=20 and work together gives Mozart, Mandelson or Frank = Zappa.
JPR
 
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Sylvain Poitras
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 = 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: OT: 10,000 = hours


In my opinion, with most things, quality surpasses=20 quantity.

This reminds of a joke popular among teachers that = goes as=20 follows:
"He once told me he had twenty years of teaching = experience, but=20 I
later found out he only had one, repeated twenty = times."

Don't get=20 me wrong, Outliers is a great read (as are other Malcolm
Gladwell = books,=20 especially Blink).

cheers,
Sylvain

On Fri, Jul 17, = 2009 at=20 3:06 AM, Steve Bingham<sbingham@con-brio.com>=20 wrote:
> Doing a quick bit of basic mental maths I reckon I've = done an=20 average of, at
> the minimum, 1 hour a day practice (not = counting=20 rehearsals and gigs!) for
> the last 39 years (more when I was a = student, less when I was in my late
> 20s/30s, and more these=20 days!!).
>
> So I make that about 14,000 = hours.
>
>=20 Does that mean I'm great? (-;
>
> Actually my very first = classical=20 violin teacher (when I was 7) used to say
> that it took 7 years = to get=20 to a point where one could really get around the
> violin. = Really though=20 I think it's impossible to put a figure on it, at
> least in = terms of=20 years. Perhaps the hours figure is a more useful gauge,
> but so = much=20 depends on the quality of the practice and not the quantity = (as
> anyone=20 who has given instrumental lessons will know!).
>
> = Meanwhile I'll=20 content myself with the thought that although I may now be
> = classed as=20 officially great, I'm still learning!
>
> Keep=20 practicing.........
>
> Steve
>
> ps. with = regard to=20 being a prodigy, one reply has already cited Mozart.
> Maybe his = really=20 great works came later in his short life, but there's got
> to = be=20 something special that allowed him to do pretty amazing musical = feats
>=20 at a very early age. I would also mention Mendelssohn who, for=20 instance,
> wrote the incredible Octet for Strings at the age of = 16.
>
> Although I guess if he worked 8 hours a day, 7 = days a week=20 on his music he
> could clock his 10,000 hours in less than 4=20 years......!
>
>
> On 17 Jul 2009, at 08:29, Art = Simon=20 wrote:
>
>> I just read Malcolm Gladwell's book = "Outliers", and=20 it makes a
>> convincing argument that there really is no = such thing=20 as a prodigy,
>> and it takes at least 10,000 hours of = practice to=20 become great,
>> whether you are talking about music or = computer=20 programming. The
>> author cites the examples of the Beatles = and=20 Mozart. I was having a
>> hard time trying to come up with = musical=20 counter examples, maybe Tod
>> Dockstader? Even = "anti-musicians" like=20 Alvin Lucier and Brian Eno
>> certainly put in the time = developing=20 their chops. I'm pretty convinced
>> that there really is = something=20 to this, and that practice is the most
>> important part of=20 developing as a musician or a composer.
>>
>> I'm = curious if=20 anyone else has heard this hypothesis and might have an
>>=20 opinion.
>> --
>> Art Simon
>> simart@gmail.com
>> = myspace [dot]=20 = com/artsimon
>>
>
>
>

------=_NextPart_000_008E_01CA0728.A9B506E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 20:02:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2E123BE7C; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 331 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:02:46 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8BbtXMjKXotOhtPgq/vPHmj9Y0qwh76ltQqfFEEaS10=; b=bvl4cn+sUOgrbpsjoZ7tS7+1eHUxJzj3SCH3fp1gsGs5Zv839xhXEzha5lEtOTOhtm k7AcyAzrAxreFbo5xJ6L+fWL23ckKylVPvH0X+QinetJDAXvO24eRBlUaB3g1fhNYeY6 bUcVSNyQ4U/yJ7Dxmak7lyplDsorLmGdAjUCs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=E5kGUbn83yGUAURgnoMp0KUrPDH9dXjM1Next2hmw5yElp0dlsiQnGr1slTZAj1mpr bfgGL103IS7G6WhfVIj6wt6AoPOmPfMeZMqJu5yA6YbCqWe2+x8/TiVHi3HdbjvUEvJc VTdyD+iRWd3EPfibqGUR8SE13g8AbrcjSZF9U= Message-ID: <4A60D798.2030101@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:57:12 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: for our planned festival - distribution channels regarding "call for performers", legal advice regarding ancillary copyright References: <7334ca1b0907071552m66eb533dj420839f12ff35102@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907071552m66eb533dj420839f12ff35102@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Schwarzschild schrieb: > Jeff said: >> Couldn't we have some kind of Creative Commons license? Like Ninjam perfomances. > > The short answer is "no". > > The slightly longer one: I might have found a way to get around for these kind of collaborations even with a Gema contract: If the work isn't done by a single composer/performer, but is a collaborative work, its simply impossible for the performing rights organization to put all their restrictions on to it, the other owner of the right would have to agree, and they can't restrict her in anyway to use her own rights... I would have to check on this, but if one of the collaborators of a Ninjam session isn't a member of ***(Gema, Acap, STIM, Sacem or whatever which all have contracts under each other to protect their members in other countries), and wants to distribute as cc-nc, it might be possible. But anyway, there won't be a possibility to have each performance under the same license, it depends on the personal contracts of the musicians involved... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 20:06:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D78E03BE78; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pLVajqK9jh673RS9M79vZTPxi5cc4b66ll9Ycavlf2w=; b=i7/PRHzn/tfTt2SYyuJsaz766m4AypoZ1o/OVkEYNxD/19DR8XaJDMwCZEY+Bzy3NJ 7RvDueQ+D0iw/v0U+HyuDYdsDtxaOSqfuzUGZCOxVA/hP1aJxtIU3dcN1an4edjQcQUS +Xl5nGYuTjaEj6KmYouzgjj0MAnc5dG6di3KU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=csqcMK/URozlQ/rQ10i9mjXJXu0DLcaAz0tCzmI4kM3fIe6pK3+Tuu7tPiMCzHjXNQ H1GJLlPDRWCk0gADLv+r1n02w74YKnMLXlL46C8yMHYG6B+tgoroIGWIHnw5Jhgb7FTp 7jtFXUUPNI5lL3N7x6hlJGNRO9gSeSvzX0t8U= Message-ID: <4A60D7F0.6030106@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:58:40 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational) References: <66f9cc1e0907101144v778df295p3e36893032224f69@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Mark Sottilaro schrieb: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: > > How many people have David Torn > CDs? How many people have David Bowie's Heathen? It's not because one > is better or marketed better. I just think people like the format > that David Bowie writes in more. Mark, this sounds all very pessimistic. I bet if I had these thoughts in my head nobody would like my music including myself... Thats not how magic works! Its the opposite, if you like your own stuff, you'll share it. I bet you will find people which like it, because it means something to you. There is no need to care about the other 6 billion people in the world who'll never hear it anyway... I also bet that the percentage of owners of David Torn CD's which adore his music is higher than the percentage o owners of David Bowie, Phil Collins, (fill in any star) music. The number of sold CD's doesn't mean anything, the percentage of people you touch when they listen to your music is a more important figure. If you have 10 listeners and they are all deeply touched also makes you feel better than any sales figure (out of my own experience...) Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 20:26:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 886BF3BE7E; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tKnKB3yDlQHyVdU5UMt5AlDYAe+cC6WTlbNcgAvEV/Y=; b=lOEz1YZn6wVZmn4oxDIYQTmikhGIZscnZvhx2jaM8UsWhZ2wNO9j4gzbsS1QF6vMtx QGyh/sWBduGrv/dxfGZHlbbJ14qLJO6cAcqfCfYrLX1usgAH//DV1lfJ7P8YDzW6kxk3 YdMFqzJD5mKvlPYD4nqz48EcafeRjb+y1t3+c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=p9Ik95t6+sV9bPyNivyhYk6RoOnwVXjst7gFUybxJAPpqTiGzqMtyoH60G21A0h1sN B3JS9GFhtSIoUS6tKp77m6nbisXg6CZtfLHK11j9QeyGXds+sJ65jA1hePO96KT9TWAM 28d/hfijVI/Q5r1JkinZoHZrpqgHmR25w3X9M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A60D798.2030101@googlemail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907071552m66eb533dj420839f12ff35102@mail.gmail.com> <4A60D798.2030101@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:26:08 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907171326g3056a586q58c4c73d5cdc8265@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: for our planned festival - distribution channels regarding "call for performers", legal advice regarding ancillary copyright From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:26:09 +0000 (UTC) A fun way to side-step all this would be to play cover songs! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Rainer Schwarzschild schrieb: >> >> Jeff said: >>> >>> Couldn't we have some kind of Creative Commons license? Like Ninjam >>> perfomances. >> >> The short answer is "no". >> >> The slightly longer one: > > I might have found a way to get around for these kind of collaborations even > with a Gema contract: > > If the work isn't done by a single composer/performer, but is a > collaborative work, its simply impossible for the performing rights > organization to put all their restrictions on to it, the other owner of the > right would have to agree, and they can't restrict her in anyway to use her > own rights... > I would have to check on this, but if one of the collaborators of a Ninjam > session isn't a member of ***(Gema, Acap, STIM, Sacem or whatever which all > have contracts under each other to protect their members in other > countries), and wants to distribute as cc-nc, it might be possible. But > anyway, there won't be a possibility to have each performance under the same > license, it depends on the personal contracts of the musicians involved... > > Stefan From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 20:29:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED5E63BE80; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:29:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NPTOSpQsfT13KldbKg/K6J73obiNf496ghWGrq2cnOc=; b=f2P067lk0htw5JjJ29upyv22dc9Aqw5b9EzG/wnwXdqrqx/BbkWHS3mE9ePsQxfLpY 2DqMK369zU/Pjok2Hhymu1MP3Hok2937pAKXiEpNuw+VOAx4wWpztKk47ZJ2NjK8whJU 7K2DUGLvQFVaS6fa3L2rEedtBWro/4nbmsddk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IxOMATcoB7rDivA/U97SXn/G2d+1v68Km1aUudX/eLruqfJP9gKkzYKOBtPXw1SG79 FQWq/OtaQ00IrnZTjV8HEGHYjCVvX5NvXsg5pvDYCVoEu5xvjHz+RG5XwX+JvYb0k8N7 L2qS5q9uT1Ypdl+hv+RFlyCrZBmNPMVQAuIzg= Message-ID: <4A60D7B8.2040304@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:57:44 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational Live Looping Performances References: <20090707022156.824E53BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> <4A53E858.4040403@cruzio.com> <98145784-08BF-44A1-8287-569964D0C9BC@con-brio.com> <004301c9ffbd$db0094c0$0301a8c0@A> <2802C753-CE39-4286-859E-C3DBD5249E81@zoekeating.com> <001701ca001c$c4459820$0301a8c0@A> <101191640907100853o566ce20ap18e801a57ecdb210@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <101191640907100853o566ce20ap18e801a57ecdb210@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:29:49 +0000 (UTC) Warren Sirota schrieb: > I might start promoting myself as "Performer/Composer", hoping to > emulate the fantastic success of the "Singer/Songwriter" label. There is a festival in Cologne called Comprovise, and I have always been a Swinger/Wrongwriter... Btw. I just came back from the Stockhausen courses in Kürten we played Prozession from Stockhausen quite successfully. The score has more freedom than you could imagine, and some people still insist its not improvisation... Stockhausen himself has introduced the name "Intuitive Musik" to get a distinction between jazz improvisation and what he was after... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 20:35:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AE843BE7E; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:35:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <71F3E763-4769-4B67-8949-9F3AB233B552@glasswing.com> From: richard sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--1027201751 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT: 10,000 hours Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:35:37 -0700 References: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:35:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8--1027201751 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit first read about this in Scientific American in 2006. I think in some cases kids absorb music thru their parent's playing, listening etc. So, even though they might not be practicing, they're doing 'the hours' vicariously - absorbing the melodies, riddims etc. I think that's why the kids of musicians seem to have such a huge head start. Gladwell also talks in the book about the importance of folks being in the right place at the right time... and having nurturing environments when young & meeting great mentors - Bill Gates, Bill Joy etc. Watching my daughter and Joe Pug's progress, I have no doubt that this is a critical part of the equation. There are freaks like the kid I saw play Beethoven at a piano that was over his head. He was like 3. But for 99.99999% of us, there's nothing like practice and discipline - that is, learning things that are very hard and not easy to learn. Challenging yourself. You can practice for a trillion hours, but if you don't try to do really challenging stuff, you don't improve - that's why there are 22 year old kids who can play a circle around me, young chess players who can obliterate the old sages. "It's not that I'm smarter than everybody, I just work on problems longer." Albert Einstein All of Gladwell's books are great mind blowers. Okay... back to work!!! richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On Jul 17, 2009, at 12:29 AM, Art Simon wrote: > I just read Malcolm Gladwell's book "Outliers", and it makes a > convincing argument that there really is no such thing as a prodigy, > and it takes at least 10,000 hours of practice to become great, > whether you are talking about music or computer programming. The > author cites the examples of the Beatles and Mozart. I was having a > hard time trying to come up with musical counter examples, maybe Tod > Dockstader? Even "anti-musicians" like Alvin Lucier and Brian Eno > certainly put in the time developing their chops. I'm pretty convinced > that there really is something to this, and that practice is the most > important part of developing as a musician or a composer. > > I'm curious if anyone else has heard this hypothesis and might have > an opinion. > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > v --Apple-Mail-8--1027201751 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable first read about this in = Scientific American in 2006.  

I think in some = cases kids absorb music thru their parent's playing, listening etc. =  So, even though they might not be practicing, they're doing 'the = hours' vicariously - absorbing the melodies, riddims etc.  I think = that's why the kids of musicians seem to have such a huge head = start. 

Gladwell also talks in the book = about the importance of folks being in the right place at the right = time... and having nurturing environments when young & meeting great = mentors - Bill Gates, Bill Joy etc.  Watching my daughter and Joe = Pug's progress, I have no doubt that this is a critical part of the = equation.  

There are freaks like the kid = I saw play Beethoven at a piano that was over his head.  He was = like 3.  But for 99.99999% of us, there's nothing like practice and = discipline - that is, learning things that are very hard and not easy to = learn.  Challenging yourself. You can practice for a trillion = hours, but if you don't try to do really challenging stuff, you don't = improve - that's why there are 22 year old kids who can play a circle = around me, young chess players who can obliterate the old sages. =  

"It's not that I'm smarter than = everybody, I just work on problems longer." Albert = Einstein

All of Gladwell's books are great mind = blowers.

Okay... back to = work!!!

richard sales
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
=

On Jul 17, 2009, at 12:29 AM, Art Simon = wrote:

I just read Malcolm Gladwell's book "Outliers", and = it makes a
convincing argument that there really is no such thing as = a prodigy,
and it takes at least 10,000 hours of practice to become = great,
whether you are talking about music or computer programming. = The
author cites the examples of the Beatles and Mozart. I was having = a
hard time trying to come up with musical counter examples, maybe = Tod
Dockstader? Even "anti-musicians" like Alvin Lucier and Brian = Eno
certainly put in the time developing their chops. I'm pretty = convinced
that there really is something to this, and that practice = is the most
important part of developing as a musician or a = composer.

I'm curious if anyone else has heard this hypothesis = and might have an opinion.
--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
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= --Apple-Mail-8--1027201751-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 21:04:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9AF13BE6F; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:04:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 446 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:04:19 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aVZmCXYN1kQS6DdsPvVFhDmfXz2sjYtazKGD+WGPGHU=; b=ndTGd4hQE5Y9qC49q9PcenLSLPTXGB0r+rJWvzQiEl1lZmLS3v5BLZzjcLdgF+Le7o 53ltwn+WtNxL3hS29ajdEN+jLRevpWlOWu4XuLQrVzuoBACqSwSOWtnVeru2FjC+3cas DjJ6KpL1wTCFnlWv462CfAPtmT82PRJy5ygDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=jmosJbI2i6SIdzjz0X+CP0tFTtLo4gZt7KZ0e/EF8kdXLnyGBhP/3+VA8yHIa0REfs 1hpZPKMru2C0sc1Vd8SRl1VlwlXNOtPmlGX0PmAbO7FS98Vf1ZnM5ZD7gaP3v3dalBlp Ml9zOsW+J0neSV1wLDWpZOPMzI5ve97tb2NMo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907171245g690e6e47r5485a7d30decf9@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907171245g690e6e47r5485a7d30decf9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:56:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sequences and the lp-1 From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f772e0161817046eed07a2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:04:19 +0000 (UTC) --001485f772e0161817046eed07a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wow, thanks per...i think i'm going to have to read that a couple of times to digest it all! On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Simeon > Harris wrote: > > i think i'm only scratching the surface here...there's definitely lots of > > fun to be had with sequenced pitch changes and i havn't even played > around > > with scramble yet. i know some of you chaps with lappytops have been > doing > > this kind of thing for ages, but i'm having fun! > > > > so if anybody has any more ideas for cool sequences, please chip in! > > (Per....!?!) > > > Wow, what cool sounds Sim! Make some awesome music with those tricks! > > I too started doing that stuff in hardware, first using a Repeater and > an Alesis sequencer..... --001485f772e0161817046eed07a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wow, thanks per...i think i'm going to have to read that a couple of ti= mes to digest it all!

On Fri, Jul 17, 200= 9 at 8:45 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Simeon
Harris<simeonharris40@g= ooglemail.com> wrote:
> i think i'm only scratching the surface here...there's definit= ely lots of
> fun to be had with sequenced pitch changes and i havn't even playe= d around
> with scramble yet. i know some of you chaps with lappytops have been d= oing
> this kind of thing for ages, but i'm having fun!
>
> so if anybody has any more ideas for cool sequences, please chip in! > (Per....!?!)


Wow, what cool sounds Sim! Make some awesome music with those tricks!=

I too started doing that stuff in hardware, first using a Repeater and
an Alesis sequencer.....

--001485f772e0161817046eed07a2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 21:37:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D14C33BE79; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8Kdty9AxvabyJOdN0BKLFPssYym6Ixw41OWO+TAcn40=; b=nkZD7YQI2ISH0cKlLQqWgqLuYRCyKX3bq8tgmT5mv57zK/62NEP4u25pFRVH0LcOxd PYyKmkr5s5wXeJQO8lYcUgFq0T0DwznXrLjlY1PLEtpaYSQ3epI+iwPh2vp8eivU8Sg/ uy+B1Xlh4+bhFMTJ/myEal3wVfqLIMoHR4fAA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HrDIuTBkOd4+EXNUKqB7VaSbPm7UoPv/0njJqJdiqWmmKD1nWUNGNkU+4Ci45lJiN+ NJqrqTyPuzo6fAYHkBmtGQaSPGXs4J08wjJp6o3RHslp6SyZJkxkPZj20GNLzNZv3/9R X9JUgI9QmyoGzJxq0PwkYn7Nq6GOyDizWe2VE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A60D7F0.6030106@googlemail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907101144v778df295p3e36893032224f69@mail.gmail.com> <4A60D7F0.6030106@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:37:38 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:37:38 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Mark Sottilaro schrieb: >> >> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: >> >> How many people have David Torn >> CDs? =A0How many people have David Bowie's Heathen? It's not because one >> is better or marketed better. =A0I just think people like the format >> that David Bowie writes in more. > > Mark, this sounds all very pessimistic. I bet if I had these thoughts in = my > head nobody would like my music including myself... Who said I didn't like my music? I love my music! I love making it too. The night before last I had an amazing time just messing around in my studio inspired by some sounds from Waldorf's new Largo VSTi. It's not pessimistic, it's just observation. It's not that other people don't express that they like my music either. What I'm saying is that does not matter to me. Having other people like my music does not enhance the experience for me at all. In fact, the worry that they might not like my music has a much worse effect on my overall experience. > Thats not how magic works! There's no such thing as magic! > Its the opposite, if you like your own stuff, you'll share it. I bet you > will find people which like it, because it means something to you. There = is > no need to care about the other 6 billion people in the world who'll neve= r > hear it anyway... See, this is kind of what I was talking about... there's always someone like you who seems to feel it's important to share the music you make as if it's not enough to just make it and enjoy making it. Trust me, I tried to make a commercial go at being a musician and it's not in me. I could never deal with the marketing, band wrangling and dealing with venues it takes. Plus, I hate traveling. Even for fun... it's not fun when you do a gig with Rick and Bill Walker where you drive for over an hour, spend an hour setting up and shlepping your gear plus a full video set up with a 16 foot screen and find out they can't be bothered to move a monitor near you so you have to play with headphones while smashed all the way off to the side of the stage because they've spit the area among themselves. Awesome. Not all gigs end up that way, but the majority seem to fall along those lines. It's not pessimistic to me to ask myself, "what's more fun? 2 or 3 hours of breakdown/setup/travel for an hour or less of playing in front of an audience where I can't hear myself all that well... or 4 hours of time in my home studio alone or with a friend making music?" The time in my studio always wins. > I also bet that the percentage of owners of David Torn CD's which adore h= is > music is higher than the percentage o owners of David Bowie, Phil Collins= , > (fill in any star) music. How much would you like to bet? I'll take that kind of action any day. ;) I think even I adore Bowie's music more than David Torn's. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 21:42:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 456C13BE77; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:42:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <2B9522FD-A61C-43E0-823D-E6442AEC916B@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1023223683 From: Rev Fever Subject: Semi OT: FS, Ibanez DD 1000 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:41:55 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:42:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--1023223683 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Pardon the "spam" but I want to sell my Ibanez DD 1000 digital delay. Rack mount. Has power, but no manual, which should not be any real problem for most on LD. It also does not come with any foot switches, (it has jacks in the back for 3 of them) but some kind of replacement foot switches should not be a problem to find somewhere. Prefer USA buyers, but will sell to others, if they want to also pay for the international shipping,etc. I would like to get $55 for it, and it is in excellent condition, both operationally, and cosmetically. Buyer pays for postage. I estimate the total weight to be in the range of 6-7 lbs. (Or?) Total postage will be determined by the location of the buyer. (And of course, any Portland area LD buyers may pick up locally and save $.) I just have too many delays (IMO) and really never got around to using this one very much, and would like free up some more rack space for what(?)ever else that may eventually stumble into the life of the studio. PLEASE REPLY OFF LIST! PLEASE REPLY OFF LIST! PLEASE REPLY OFF LIST! PLEASE REPLY OFF LIST! PLEASE REPLY OFF LIST! I do not want the LD list unnecessarily cluttered up with anything related to this matter. Thanx. Email me for any additional info or questions. (and...?) Cheers. Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ --Apple-Mail-1--1023223683 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Pardon the "spam" but I want to sell my Ibanez DD 1000 digital delay. = Rack mount. Has power, but no manual, which should not be any real = problem for most on LD.
It = also does not come with any foot switch= es, (it has jacks in the back for 3 of them)  but some kind of = replacement foot switches should not be a problem to find = somewhere.

Prefer USA buyers, but will sell to = others, if they want to also pay for the international shipping,etc. =  I would like to get $55 for it, and it is in excellent = condition, 
both operationally, and cosmetically. Buyer = pays for postage. I estimate the total weight to be in the range of 6-7 = lbs. (Or?) Total postage will be determined by the
location of = the buyer. (And of course, any Portland area LD buyers may pick up = locally and save $.)

I just have too many = delays (IMO) and really never got around to using this one very much, = and would like free up some more rack space for what(?)ever = else 
that may eventually stumble into the life of the = studio.

PLEASE REPLY OFF LIST! =   PLEASE REPLY OFF LIST! =   PLEASE REPLY OFF LIST! =   PLEASE REPLY OFF LIST! =   PLEASE REPLY OFF LIST! =  

I do not want the LD list unnecessarily = cluttered up with anything related to this matter. Thanx.   Email = me for any additional info or questions. = (and...?)

Cheers.
= --Apple-Mail-1--1023223683-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 22:00:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70DFA3BE77; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 6980 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:00:38 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=f3fCF/ZaDkV2Btl344chz4IIFC6YziZ/sBdr+0w4dmQ=; b=yHT+xm4Ajmev3wokkgZN2Jme9L9j7Dbodv8Oogs0fL7kfJtghBOZCAe4QzN9C1EocZ 3syqI8TuMA5gRXJLom5T4A4ZRyUNHnMJUFmoD/JnphOA9fZKhczzjwK2CyeKQ4SFQ1dp l4w5ZAKzfwMNJM/cqRaPhZGF2PlLp7n8Of+pU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ES/OBfpWcCDZ/SXKy5LaE14Solh0hhucqdqqwQzGqjRToXoRcF1n2IP7YA5jJVw5Zx Sd17uz6ZK9J7BQZIr5UZqBGHfzxczYVPcsRaY5kYOMvxqNV7zERvPr8UEdhI31vBBo1m i5Ji1Ytm53sysmX4OPCPiSj2HUMJdxSdPV/ew= Message-ID: <4A60F484.3070006@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:00:36 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: couch-surfage in Brooklyn or Albany? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Matt Davignon schrieb: > Would anyone be interested in letting me sleep on their couch? This reminds me how wonderful the whole couch surfing community is organized. We should open a Loopers-Delight group @ couchsurfing... I just created it, any couchsurfers can now join in: https://www.couchsurfing.org/group.html?gid=21286 Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 22:28:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3CE23BE77; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 467 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:28:36 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=/PHTPTQHfzbOrMPd09n7IjZCJ84NwRuzlyPaIFR5Pq8=; b=Iu2R2CLF6d8olkHvWdXwV0amCo7LIKCCZpAGJCqLb/aTNzYtgZzbZzp9rGZ6PDXpaq 2JRr2JpHRsXEBLRz4RSX1RWmEvvT3QFXHH6ir2cwArG/LYGnP9JUxQEqkT4H9Nh3CMOO OqWfELZ6nht9HXtzMmF0KdjgW6mAVd8AeZrds= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=GOKJsX7kD6xSXpBrRSYaCJANF0mo0j1o55jTIqk+WpcTxAynkzg0NIRsbZWsrMAaTW Giq6sP/wlw+EiJ4KmSPFnxO5X8DTPcVVG8JmjUE16CDWphfKtu5Xe5eGS+B0hoUx4v1g SCaMMQu5o6N4O3ze84TiauhksjQqUT8KrtUp4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE318610D@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE318610D@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:20:48 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c46078d2cba3094f Message-ID: <101191640907171520v3c49f8di76cb0b7a1a276654@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: 10,000 hours From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636456f5a4cb8a2046eee3378 Resent-Message-ID: <77bmYD.A.ODC.UsPYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:28:36 +0000 (UTC) --001636456f5a4cb8a2046eee3378 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > That would include most of the programmers in the world, and if my > work experience is any indication, very few of them are who I would > consider "great" :-) > > 10,000 hours might get you "professional". You would be able to > compete in the job market and be a valued team member. But great? > > I think greatness as a programmer is much harder to quantify than > greatness as a musician. Many people think Linus Torvalds is great, > how many great programmers have there been in the history of computing? 5? 15? you pretty much have to create a platform to be considered great, i'd say - make an OS or invent a language, something like that. Even if you write a great application program, that doesn't make you a great programmer (tho something like Visicalc qualifies because it started a supremely useful category). a great programmer would be severely out of place on most of the teams I'm on. -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --001636456f5a4cb8a2046eee3378 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


That would include most of the programmers in the world, and if my
work experience is any indication, very few of them are who I would
consider "great" :-)

10,000 hours might get you "professional". =A0You would be able t= o
compete in the job market and be a valued team member. =A0But great?

I think greatness as a programmer is much harder to quantify than
greatness as a musician. =A0Many people think Linus Torvalds is great,


how many great programmers have there been in the= history of computing? 5? 15? you pretty much have to create a platform to = be considered great, i'd say - make an OS or invent a language, somethi= ng like that. Even if you write a great application program, that doesn'= ;t make you a great programmer (tho something like Visicalc qualifies becau= se it started a supremely useful category). a great programmer would be sev= erely out of place on most of the teams I'm on.


--
Warren
http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_Art= istId=3D6679
http://www.warr= ensirota.com
--001636456f5a4cb8a2046eee3378-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 22:29:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4FAF3BE78; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:29:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vFDd5YYU77IRsNcwbM3TONmF3SNEyD/isYfw77p6phM=; b=V7pqtDUqJlnLBnQVpFSOdGf6XX88fUncULnc8n2hyhD2RMObHhbGXcB7Etun5HJj+w esTZiwXcvgnOjVPj+Ti2o3JwekewL/ddq4TYBSC5AIAFF3BxuEDBRWxnnrYQMy86blnP d99k0qOa26GtaOzLcQiECvkXx18zBmTk+4KUg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kzHLtt3+zY6gYmd1Vc4qqSuo7LoF1AN/Ak2gypgtK7ddVS+Qq5tmNR2jGYeXfA+D0d XOXlPIEEugXdsayOdJf12oe6KyIlbI8XIATl9ngtCAAiq/OiUcNfdSefxdvNRJPd2tSK RempWbaM2J11ocjO4ZoWWYCAonAdxEOpzwla8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A60F484.3070006@googlemail.com> References: <4A60F484.3070006@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:29:38 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907171529m36c33e18va20a9b462afe1f5d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: couch-surfage in Brooklyn or Albany? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-9-1eD.A._IC.StPYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:29:38 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > This reminds me how wonderful the whole couch surfing community is > organized. We should open a Loopers-Delight group @ couchsurfing... > > I just created it, any couchsurfers can now join in: > > https://www.couchsurfing.org/group.html?gid=21286 Great idea, Stefan! I just joined in. Had some problems uploading a picture. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 22:36:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F5B03BE7C; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: FW: sequences and the lp-1 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:36:37 -0700 Message-ID: <12C640CCEC684CA781DBDA54811052F4@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0040_01CA06F4.6235CB80" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoHKxhvuGnoZbDNR16+z55X+ZQqoQAAjH9AAABtdiA= Resent-Message-ID: <6Y4fcB.A._bC.7zPYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:36:43 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01CA06F4.6235CB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Awesome , really cool techniques, for some reason I hadn't put two and two together since the note value capability was added that this could be done.. Once I stopped using the repeater, I thought I had let go of the ability to trigger the samples via midi not on/off and drive it from an external midi sequencer or drum machine source to create sequencer effects, in my case the arpeggiator of my aging Roland GR-30 guitar synth.. If this is indeed what you are doing, Thank you so much for pointing out that capability. Time to pull the guitar synth out of mothballs and get to business. Thanks Simeon PS, the scramble function is really worth investigating, try a very short drone loop, set to fast scramble and then leave it in overdub mode, and set the feedback set below 90% or more, then start playing with the track speed and reverse..and enjoy .. Bill _____ From: Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:11 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: sequences and the lp-1 i originally posted this on the looperlative forum, but bob asked me to post here as well... now that bob has implemented note values as controllers, i've been messing around using my drum machine as a sequencer i have each of the drum sounds (which send a midi note) mapped to various functions like play, stop, play retrig, reverse and various pitch values here are some simple examples... in each, you'll hear the straight loop and then i turn on the sequence. the lp-1 is running through a lexicon mpx-1 for filters and delays etc which are synced to the loop/sequence http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/pitch.mp3 - this is just a simple pitch change sequence http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/pitchstutter.mp3 - this is a pitch change sequence with a stuttery retrig http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/trance.mp3 - a trancegate http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/reverse.mp3 - a delay that reverses every bar - (the lp-1 was in overdub with feedback at 30% and the drum machine changed the direction of the loop every bar) and messing about with 4 half speed commands in a bar, fed through a filter and delay - just had to grab a quick recording of this... http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/speed.mp3 - 1/4 note half speed shift mini-soundscape i think i'm only scratching the surface here...there's definitely lots of fun to be had with sequenced pitch changes and i havn't even played around with scramble yet. i know some of you chaps with lappytops have been doing this kind of thing for ages, but i'm having fun! so if anybody has any more ideas for cool sequences, please chip in! (Per....!?!) sim ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01CA06F4.6235CB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Awesome , really cool techniques, = for some reason I hadn’t put two and two together since the note value = capability was added that this could be done.. Once I stopped using the repeater, I thought I had let go of the ability to trigger the samples via midi not = on/off and drive it from an external midi sequencer or drum machine source to = create sequencer effects, in my case the arpeggiator of my aging Roland GR-30 = guitar synth.. If this is indeed what you are doing, Thank you so much for = pointing out that capability. Time to pull the guitar synth out of mothballs and = get to business.

Thanks

 Simeon

 

 PS, the scramble function is = really worth investigating, try a very short drone loop, set to fast scramble = and then  leave it in overdub mode, and set the feedback set below 90% or = more, then start playing with the track speed and reverse….and enjoy = ..

 Bill<= /p>

 

From: = Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 17, = 2009 12:11 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: sequences and = the lp-1

 

i originally = posted this on the looperlative forum, but bob asked me to post here as well...

now that bob has implemented note values as controllers, i've been = messing around using my drum machine as a sequencer

i have each of the drum sounds (which send a midi note) mapped to = various functions like play, stop, play retrig, reverse and various pitch values =

here are some simple examples...

in each, you'll hear the straight loop and then i turn on the sequence. =

the lp-1 is running through a lexicon mpx-1 for filters and delays etc = which are synced to the loop/sequence


http://www.simeonha= rris.co.uk/misc/pitch.mp3 - this is just a simple pitch change sequence

http://www.s= imeonharris.co.uk/misc/pitchstutter.mp3 - this is a pitch change sequence with a stuttery retrig

http://www.simeonh= arris.co.uk/misc/trance.mp3 - a trancegate

http://www.simeon= harris.co.uk/misc/reverse.mp3 - a delay that reverses every bar - (the lp-1 was in overdub with = feedback at 30% and the drum machine changed the direction of the loop every = bar)


and messing about with 4 half speed commands in a bar, fed through a = filter and delay - just had to grab a quick recording of this...

http://www.simeonha= rris.co.uk/misc/speed.mp3 - 1/4 note half speed shift mini-soundscape


i think i'm only scratching the surface here...there's definitely lots = of fun to be had with sequenced pitch changes and i havn't even played around = with scramble yet. i know some of you chaps with lappytops have been doing = this kind of thing for ages, but i'm having fun!

so if anybody has any more ideas for cool sequences, please chip in! (Per....!?!)

sim

------=_NextPart_000_0040_01CA06F4.6235CB80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 22:45:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B04553BE79; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090717172200.zysvzc3togksk448@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:22:00 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: sequences and the lp-1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: <8kbeEB.A.ruC.I8PYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:45:28 +0000 (UTC) I can't listen to any of these.. I get a 'You don?t have access rights =20 to view this page, please go back and select another, or click the =20 link below' error.. :( -cpr Quoting Simeon Harris : > i originally posted this on the looperlative forum, but bob asked me to po= st > here as well... > > now that bob has implemented note values as controllers, i've been messing > around using my drum machine as a sequencer > > i have each of the drum sounds (which send a midi note) mapped to various > functions like play, stop, play retrig, reverse and various pitch values > > here are some simple examples... > > in each, you'll hear the straight loop and then i turn on the sequence. > > the lp-1 is running through a lexicon mpx-1 for filters and delays etc whi= ch > are synced to the loop/sequence > > > http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/pitch.mp3 - this is just a simple pitch > change sequence > > http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/pitchstutter.mp3 - this is a pitch chan= ge > sequence with a stuttery retrig > > http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/trance.mp3 - a trancegate > > http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/reverse.mp3 - a delay that reverses eve= ry > bar - (the lp-1 was in overdub with feedback at 30% and the drum machine > changed the direction of the loop every bar) > > > and messing about with 4 half speed commands in a bar, fed through a filte= r > and delay - just had to grab a quick recording of this... > > http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/speed.mp3 - 1/4 note half speed shift > mini-soundscape > > > i think i'm only scratching the surface here...there's definitely lots of > fun to be had with sequenced pitch changes and i havn't even played around > with scramble yet. i know some of you chaps with lappytops have been doing > this kind of thing for ages, but i'm having fun! > > so if anybody has any more ideas for cool sequences, please chip in! > (Per....!?!) > > sim > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 17 23:51:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 078BD3BE78; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=gZt9UR8uPZ5KHXBfq1sD8VJvV8r5NxMJ4OY6Vk62kt4UigwfvBaG1IgOAz9ExpT1; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20090717172200.zysvzc3togksk448@webmail.musetrap.com> References: <20090717172200.zysvzc3togksk448@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:49:47 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Gig Spam: Chuck Zwicky and Ralph Gibson at "The Stone" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-964247906==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79968a3a79d2079c7b81b856d3b2db2a63350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:51:16 +0000 (UTC) --============_-964247906==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=102021637855 A concert in the STATE OF THE AXE Festival taking place during July at The Stone. A new book "State Of The Axe-Guitar Masters in Photographs and Words" by Ralph Gibson, published by The Houston Museum Of Fine Arts, and distributed by Yale University Press. It is widely available and will be on sale at The Stone. This performance features Ralph Gibson & Chuck Zwicky Ralph Gibson -Ich Bin Die Nacht (electric guitar, photography) Ralph Gibson's images in film with live accompaniment for solo electric guitar. Chuck Zwicky - "extemporaneous ephemera and site specific ambient improv for solo guitar and electrical memory" -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-964247906==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Gig Spam: Chuck Zwicky and Ralph Gibson at "The Stone"
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A concert in the STATE OF THE AXE Festival taking place during July at The Stone.

A new book "State Of The Axe-Guitar Masters in Photographs and Words" by Ralph Gibson, published by The Houston Museum Of Fine Arts, and distributed by Yale University Press. It is widely available and will be on sale at The Stone.

This performance features Ralph Gibson & Chuck Zwicky

Ralph Gibson -Ich Bin Die Nacht (electric guitar, photography) Ralph Gibson's images in film with live accompaniment for solo electric guitar.

Chuck Zwicky - "extemporaneous ephemera and site specific ambient improv for solo guitar and electrical memory"


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--============_-964247906==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 00:59:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D0F93BE75; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=McoP7GNxtlqSQVk+W3jlgRJ5+QnRkHIVrqf5Xtk1tIU=; b=sXmhoF7HiQuDgG3wLtrLuDraLhPO4PazPkWwEZHQqPAWpjeVLkRp4GwQkiSWb4iO+9 VBZ27IIDaRtECd4ruyBs0ZfO1f3PMtXdc7yqpa6JDT8IjEcwJdO7rXmVYWv/JRh7yGgI +HZmFCFjoyXLUcuGLBRyEbe61/0ZuCSI49Wa4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GzLcVbmO9nXbR1hkLPEIP9c3v+frkMQcyZOfWb2cC+3HL3C9z6f6999wcxzLsuwXKn YqStFuNNVBlHn1Pg/ArXyclxm4ObVX1nk+HSqg4dymXrmNkIdDFkyYHh5EKlicO7sAUW qIvlxiMMjYb3VRZIbTsgkusIMTsYoTpnz9Kdg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907171245g690e6e47r5485a7d30decf9@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907171245g690e6e47r5485a7d30decf9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:59:20 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907171759m3adeaafcx2f72260caca900f8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: sequences and the lp-1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:59:20 +0000 (UTC) > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Simeon > Harris wrote: >> definitely lots of >> fun to be had with sequenced pitch changes and i havn't even played around Simeon, I got so inspired by listening to the pleasant sounding files you posted so I just had to try and set it up with Mobius + Bidule. Plugged in a guitar and looped this: http://www.perboysen.com/audio/Rate_Next_Mobius.mp3 Mobius has this command called "Rate Next". It shifts the rate/speed along a list you have typed into the preferences. I used a list of four rates: 0, +12, 0, -12 and I used Bidules Step Sequencer to send the Rate Next MIDI Note command into Mobius every quarter note. The funny thing though was that the rate shifting also affected the master tempo, which was what the sequencer followed. I guess that's because I started looping on Mobius Sync Master Track. I did two loops on parallel tracks, but only the selected one got speed jumped by the sequencer. Quite weird but fun ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 01:23:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3914B3BE72; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:23:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:25:05 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: Eventide Time Factor To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090717-0, 17/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:23:06 +0000 (UTC) >From: "L.Angulo" >Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:07:02 +0000 (GMT) >yes,this is really a drag for such an expensive pedal,now the switches = are starting to=20 >crap out on me as well and it does not look like eventide is going to = release any more > updates for it,lots of people seem to be getting upset in the forums... Damn, that's really bad news. I would've expected a lot better. >so what is the smallest delay looper pedal that can loop its own delays? >the dl4 is too limited i am contemplating the time bender,does anybody = have any experience > with this one? As far as I know Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai, it's a stereo looper, it's got some other nice features and a lot of fun to play with. -- G. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 01:23:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C11B73BE85; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:23:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:25:07 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: Eventide Time Factor To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090717-0, 17/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:23:06 +0000 (UTC) =46rom: Toby G Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:13:51 -0700 >I HAD a timefactor. I had to return it because of the noise it made = when=20 >the loop start/end point was reached. It wasn't seamless. Made a = little=20 >blip. Even after the software update it still made the sound. > > t Dammit. =20 What is it with pedals, if it's not one thing it's another. =20 I bet there are some really disappointed people out there. -- G. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 01:23:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51F203BE8D; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:25:09 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: Eventide Time Factor To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090717-0, 17/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:23:07 +0000 (UTC) >From: G >Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:57:56 +1200 >> Now that EH have brought out the POG2, I'm thinking of putting = together >> a letter to Electro Harmonix asking if they'd consider redoing the = 2880 >> with a number of improvements. Including among many other things a >> smaller foot print, 8 track looping, 16 save spaces (each with 8 = tracks >> and a stereo mix down) on the same memory card, much more = comprehensive >> MIDI capability so that a midi foot controller can drive all it's >> features, and the list goes on, and on... >> Cheers, >> -- G. =46rom: Raul Bonell Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:05:16 +0200 >you should consider mobius, but in sw context ;-) >any combo DAW+mobius (i.e. plogue bidule) will give you ALL what you >are asking for at a fraction of the price. Evil software people may turn me yet. ;o) I even considered getting the Digitech GNX4 for a while. =20 =46or US$100+ more you get better amp setups. I can theoretically plug = my mono effects chain into the mono amp/effect part of the GNX, then put it's instrument output into the start of my stereo effects, chain, then return the final stereo output (through a line driver) back into the GNX line in, and run that through the 8 track recorder/looper. If EHX were to redo the 2880, the feature list of this 8 track recorder/looper would be a good starting point. However there's no MIDI control over the looper, but at least you can use a dedicated proprietry foot controller, or even use midi controller for all the other features, and keep the GNX4 pedals for looping. BUT... apparently the recorder/looper quality is pretty rubbish. =20 Which is what killed it as an option for me. But since we're on the topic, has anyone have experience with the Digitech GNX4... especially the 8 track recorder/looper?=20 It's audio quality and how well it functions? -- G.=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 02:45:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF39B3BE7E; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1857 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:45:01 UTC Message-ID: <4A612EDB.5030305@biink.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:09:31 -0400 From: David Beardsley Reply-To: db@biink.com Organization: Biink & SSI User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: 7/20/2009 Brooklyn looping gig! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:45:01 +0000 (UTC) The SomewhatMysterious Tuning from Main Street Goes to Brooklyn for multiple just intonation guitars, cosmic zither and percussion. David Beardsley, Joseph Benzola, Alex Carpenter, James Ross Monday, July 20, 2009 9:00pm Goodbye Blue Monday 1087 Broadway Brooklyn, NY http://www.goodbye-blue-monday.com rehearsal recording: it's the track called Monday Night Mystery Tuning Excerpt -- * David Beardsley * http://biink.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 02:58:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4289A3BE77; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:58:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3615 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:58:40 UTC Message-id: <8E77CCD3-807C-4937-8580-5658A8FC4FBC@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-185--1007852237 MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: Eventide Time Factor Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:58:07 -0500 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:58:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-185--1007852237 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > What is it with pedals, if it's not one thing it's another. > I bet there are some really disappointed people out there. Not me. I think the TF is fantastic. People get their panties in a twist over the looping glitch, but it's not a dedicated looper. I thought the glitch had been fixed anyway. If not, let Eventide know, and I'm sure they'll address it. Jeff --Apple-Mail-185--1007852237 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


What is it with pedals, if it's not one thing it's another.   
I bet there are some really disappointed people out there.

Not me. I think the TF is fantastic. People get their panties in a twist over the looping glitch, but it's not a dedicated looper. I thought the glitch had been fixed anyway. If not, let Eventide know, and I'm sure they'll address it. 

Jeff
--Apple-Mail-185--1007852237-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 03:13:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0B033BE7C; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MoQuKOxWSQdlL3I4qtNIHw)" Message-id: <6A91D0D9FB464A88B615683BE74863BB@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <8E77CCD3-807C-4937-8580-5658A8FC4FBC@verizon.net> Subject: Re: Eventide Time Factor Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:13:12 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:13:14 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_MoQuKOxWSQdlL3I4qtNIHw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT "If not, let Eventide know, and I'm sure they'll address it." That's what I thought. I'm sure it's an awesome pedal in many ways, but with the name Eventide on it I assumed it would be fan-fricking-tastic. t ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 6:58 PM Subject: Re: Eventide Time Factor What is it with pedals, if it's not one thing it's another. I bet there are some really disappointed people out there. Not me. I think the TF is fantastic. People get their panties in a twist over the looping glitch, but it's not a dedicated looper. I thought the glitch had been fixed anyway. Jeff --Boundary_(ID_MoQuKOxWSQdlL3I4qtNIHw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
"If not, let Eventide know, and I'm sure they'll address it."
 
That's what I thought.  I'm sure it's an awesome pedal in many ways, but with the name Eventide on it I assumed it would be fan-fricking-tastic.
 
t
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What is it with pedals, if it's not one thing it's another.   
I bet there are some really disappointed people out there.

Not me. I think the TF is fantastic. People get their panties in a twist over the looping glitch, but it's not a dedicated looper. I thought the glitch had been fixed anyway.  

Jeff
--Boundary_(ID_MoQuKOxWSQdlL3I4qtNIHw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 03:23:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB2BA3BE7E; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:23:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 418 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:23:51 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=949X8x+jHWbVAKbUUKgBliuVQ/uru/E7aBBRI5PqF2Y=; b=v2Tf1Vl4YnVHjyZsEjnqrR52UbqLNCGw8EvXSAym/4OlQ2SRFl8qrK2kZtUn+zuv1D oY9eqxqi1j+LP6Nh0C0FMlnjO8dN32OWtjvpJ36EjEEhIuXI8exruYI7yp6YhGpDsvnz hL0IoOmz++HqKLVhvpuJ8YMthLtyjATMQ0Omk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IRL3E/IVy6ibb9f/WrQUpOUSyfYcmpmw1Jqlw72JFa46S4jADI/Dsk68poMZMKgGYR bCzSVeDgDsuoHXc5UTCnvUS7qm04k5tA5X+MTDt8cWpKgbt7du4W3N7mpHKxmFqhW0sA TZq/U8MkKuYRwfY0yRIPJFicTeqNk+eH6X4sY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A612EDB.5030305@biink.com> References: <4A612EDB.5030305@biink.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:16:53 -0400 Message-ID: <44e368750907172016t115d7c2cqd9840a008b223cd3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: 7/20/2009 Brooklyn looping gig! From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:23:51 +0000 (UTC) doh! I live about 6 blocks from that joint...unfortunately I have to leave town for a few days. - Jim On Friday, July 17, 2009, David Beardsley wrote: > The SomewhatMysterious Tuning from Main Street Goes to Brooklyn > for multiple just intonation guitars, cosmic zither and percussion. > > David Beardsley, Joseph Benzola, Alex Carpenter, James Ross > Monday, July 20, 2009 > 9:00pm > Goodbye Blue Monday > 1087 Broadway > Brooklyn, NY > > http://www.goodbye-blue-monday.com > > rehearsal recording: > it's the track called Monday Night Mystery Tuning Excerpt > > > -- > * David Beardsley > * http://biink.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 04:15:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 310463BE7C; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:18:31 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: Eventide Time Factor To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090717-0, 17/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:15:27 +0000 (UTC) =46rom: andy butler Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:18:23 +0100 >> 2009/7/17, G : >>> Hi there >>> Other than the Eventide Time Factor I haven't found a stereo delay = pedal >>> with midi control on the market - so I'm seriously considering it. >what about a rack mountable unit? >Line 6 do (did?) one, the "Echo Pro" or something like that. >and there's always the Behringer Virtualizer, with 5s of stereo >delay.=20 >andy =20 Thanks for the suggestions. But I think I'd switch to the laptop/software route rather than get into a rack rig. -- G. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 04:20:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B09CE3BE7C; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:20:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:20:10 UTC Message-id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <6A91D0D9FB464A88B615683BE74863BB@NORBY11> Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-196--1002951182 MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: Eventide Time Factor X-Priority: 3 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:19:48 -0500 References: <8E77CCD3-807C-4937-8580-5658A8FC4FBC@verizon.net> <6A91D0D9FB464A88B615683BE74863BB@NORBY11> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: <2HOb_D.A.3LG.61UYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:20:10 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-196--1002951182 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > That's what I thought. I'm sure it's an awesome pedal in many ways, > but with the name Eventide on it I assumed it would be fan-fricking- > tastic. > For my needs, it is. Go post in the Eventide forum if you (or anyone else) have particular problems you need to see addressed. Jeff --Apple-Mail-196--1002951182 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
That's what I thought.  I'm sure it's an = awesome pedal in many ways, but with the name Eventide on it I assumed = it would be fan-fricking-tastic.
 

For my needs, it is. Go post in the Eventide forum if you (or anyone = else) have particular problems you need to see = addressed. 

Jeff
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--Boundary_(ID_PA8SygNXD9p4oLNTOYNKfQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 04:34:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7DB13BE79; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=R74j6DWlLacHx67Pv58lLq/icKJUZwcOsH06zyhdUaw=; b=AhgRBAUo2nKSdAhvhTb7KhsUQ9q/5qtrwXoLnYE/vU3IyZcKzTeDE0eb3BeqyqCPAR jAdTUmiN30/9lG+jUH3P6gu5dhrUuokHSz0+lDm+VpTiWXwIVvVuX+zCKfgsz1F5qXRn MyJta/ZxCOQe9+JhrH14jwNWmD6LjV4PmxS/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wSGYdTY1XoUU+okq/TJgnrJMtxsjzz39OaeIu786TvpX8NaDlBQFh8Ulf1IsshGtF+ /3GH+eZKY5xPrI30PqFaPmGrrpbLlPCbwNB27RQYQFG6AhWYusLNN/KFVXRM4n+8kjpU cizu9sXktQneBQNxxK+8uWYtZukLfjZvQTYxg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640907171520v3c49f8di76cb0b7a1a276654@mail.gmail.com> References: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE318610D@barq.sailpoint.com> <101191640907171520v3c49f8di76cb0b7a1a276654@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:34:33 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0907172134x1a3a623di80a999a32916c47b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: 10,000 hours From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Warren and Jeff, you make good points and I think Gladwell was on weak ground we he spoke to computer programming. Was Bill Gates a great programmer? What made Bill Gates "great" was that he got IBM to use his operating system, but allow him to keep the license. Microsoft has done some good stuff, but they owe their continuing existence to that one stroke of luck or hubris. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Warren Sirota wrote= : > >> >> >> That would include most of the programmers in the world, and if my >> work experience is any indication, very few of them are who I would >> consider "great" :-) >> >> 10,000 hours might get you "professional". =A0You would be able to >> compete in the job market and be a valued team member. =A0But great? >> >> I think greatness as a programmer is much harder to quantify than >> greatness as a musician. =A0Many people think Linus Torvalds is great, > > > how many great programmers have there been in the history of computing? 5= ? > 15? you pretty much have to create a platform to be considered great, i'd > say - make an OS or invent a language, something like that. Even if you > write a great application program, that doesn't make you a great programm= er > (tho something like Visicalc qualifies because it started a supremely use= ful > category). a great programmer would be severely out of place on most of t= he > teams I'm on. > > > -- > Warren > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 > http://www.warrensirota.com > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 04:41:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EB043BE7E; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:41:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed In-reply-to: <588ce11d0907172134x1a3a623di80a999a32916c47b@mail.gmail.com> References: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE318610D@barq.sailpoint.com> <101191640907171520v3c49f8di76cb0b7a1a276654@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0907172134x1a3a623di80a999a32916c47b@mail.gmail.com> Message-id: From: Toby Graves Subject: Re: 10,000 hours Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:37:22 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:41:24 +0000 (UTC) Microsoft has done acceptable stuff. I guess the way I measure it is--how many windows related products have made me say, "wow, that's really f'n cool?" Full disclosure: I own a PC w/XP and a Mac. t On Jul 17, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Art Simon wrote: > Warren and Jeff, you make good points and I think Gladwell was on weak > ground we he spoke to computer programming. Was Bill Gates a great > programmer? What made Bill Gates "great" was that he got IBM to use > his operating system, but allow him to keep the license. Microsoft has > done some good stuff, but they owe their continuing existence to that > one stroke of luck or hubris. > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Warren > Sirota wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> That would include most of the programmers in the world, and if my >>> work experience is any indication, very few of them are who I would >>> consider "great" :-) >>> >>> 10,000 hours might get you "professional". You would be able to >>> compete in the job market and be a valued team member. But great? >>> >>> I think greatness as a programmer is much harder to quantify than >>> greatness as a musician. Many people think Linus Torvalds is great, >> >> >> how many great programmers have there been in the history of >> computing? 5? >> 15? you pretty much have to create a platform to be considered >> great, i'd >> say - make an OS or invent a language, something like that. Even >> if you >> write a great application program, that doesn't make you a great >> programmer >> (tho something like Visicalc qualifies because it started a >> supremely useful >> category). a great programmer would be severely out of place on >> most of the >> teams I'm on. >> >> >> -- >> Warren >> http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 >> http://www.warrensirota.com >> > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 04:45:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9BAF3BE77; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+/2hh9InP+bsxedljpkxblYDpyCyZTbNkxCtR/7tlrM=; b=j/K0I5ker1lD/B0XR1vwXH41+T+UqgPoAx0/xinI/M4jjl6YEzd66K7W+bbaCfvQdF ZnvTfF8B4U/WKX3Ot4jTK+hXBCeRIS+WgUHSlGd8aoylLd1yEDN+7g565vbguwB1h64l PvbkIWTzpOCsYIVWF39f3PU3qJIrA2hwlJKcc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Qx8quWPH3zbSPpkYgEKhvKPptKL3yPp6Z+qA4oSQkXUv+0iCzMc+v+rzmw9qMTwDV5 bAiLiP7Gz3j4JV9hx1+G+PS+kM0rtOOyITq4n4dZ2UNg4ZRoSWgWB0H3B9k4DByE8Abe pMkZP9ZezgjFvS0Xa3Nf4RR81kT4BixFAiJpE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A60428A.7080207@cruzio.com> References: <4A60428A.7080207@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:45:27 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0907172145o2207cdc2hee5d953bd2d8a412@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: 10,000 hours From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Rick, That's really cool. Obviously, he's not old enough for his 10,000 hours of practice! Since I'm coming from the electronic music side of things, I've always thought that practice was less important, and an electronic music composer could "think" his way through composing a great piece, without the years of training that a conventional composer might need to become familiar with with instruments he's composing for. But, I'm still stuck for examples. Tod Dockstader is pretty much it. Here's a guy who studied film and painting in college, and tangentially got involved in sound production. As far as I know, he had no conventional music training, yet composed several stellar pieces of electronic music and music concrete of lasting importance, and them pretty much disappeared for many years. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > my bad, =A0 here's the > video of child conga prodigy, Miguel Russell, > a refutation of the 10,000 hours to mastery > theory. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHkB13cZuIvc > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 07:33:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C3B83BE73; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 228008230/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.153.48/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.153.48 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjcCAIwXYUpPTpkw/2dsb2JhbAAIznCEDAWJXQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,225,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="228008230" Message-ID: <4A617E51.7030100@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:48:33 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Eventide Time Factor References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:33:45 +0000 (UTC) G wrote: >> so what is the smallest delay looper pedal that can loop its own delays? >> the dl4 is too limited i am contemplating the time bender,does anybody have any experience >> with this one? > > As far as I know Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai, it's a stereo looper, > it's got some other nice features and a lot of fun to play with. > -- G. > > well, it *can* loop it's own delays, ...but in a frustratingly limited way. For instance, the only way to stop the loop is to hit Bypass. ....don't try and take mine away tho' :-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 09:22:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F0CA3BE77; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:22:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mA3Hq1opfvETvQAk71XYzlS1lFG3Ldb7JT8bSx+d0hg=; b=AkPZqPF71GiMLtHdY0+bG25gXiDy2vRV2cTe5Enoe9tzXXVck7wRJ2X2D/pOnMgZXs b8KUVL4e3bXjBgPYV63vM5kWC1Wr7hp+Ie6YdCxPIuR31uIkPhCrafC8uBEDGMl3kjtv /a5OJbKOVMysoYfZK8zZA7oqWU4gp5h55sPg8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=OApg6D3FKn3citUr5PPqpmHrAWhDYTPASmPlR50nJ2pF/2VGSyk5Rk7k2AHrzt0MRL dR0VMa4MluwmeLQBaObilij6dVe8eEGy11jAQca7OBX28jNE+TC0tXDmuzhH7G8A9pEY Cu9k6NLMIK5XbTloKB+I1MJJ3JCq6/O1AEXP8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907171759m3adeaafcx2f72260caca900f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907171245g690e6e47r5485a7d30decf9@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907171759m3adeaafcx2f72260caca900f8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:22:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sequences and the lp-1 From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f79552fb1a15046ef77030 Resent-Message-ID: <4ZvjjD.A.lw.LRZYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:22:19 +0000 (UTC) --001485f79552fb1a15046ef77030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit he heh, nice one per! mobius seems to act like a tape machine and spool up and down between the rate changes...sounds great! cpr - try copy and paste the links into the address bar of your browser - that should work bill - i've been using scramble a lot over the past couple of years....but not in the context of sequencing commands...that's what i need to try next! thanks for the comments chaps! sim On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Simeon > > Harris wrote: > >> definitely lots of > >> fun to be had with sequenced pitch changes and i havn't even played > around > > Simeon, > > I got so inspired by listening to the pleasant sounding files you > posted so I just had to try and set it up with Mobius + Bidule. > Plugged in a guitar and looped this: > http://www.perboysen.com/audio/Rate_Next_Mobius.mp3 > > --001485f79552fb1a15046ef77030 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable he heh, nice one per! mobius seems to act like a tape machine and spool up = and down between the rate changes...sounds great!

cpr - try copy and= paste the links into the address bar of your browser - that should work
bill - i've been using scramble a lot over the past couple of years= ....but not in the context of sequencing commands...that's what i need = to try next!

thanks for the comments chaps!

sim


On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.co= m> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Simeon
> Harris<simeonharri= s40@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> =A0definitely lots of
>> fun to be had with sequenced pitch changes and i havn't even p= layed around

Simeon,

I got so inspired by listening to the pleasant sounding files you
posted so I just had to try and set it up with Mobius + Bidule.
Plugged in a guitar and looped this:
http://www.perboysen.com/audio/Rate_Next_Mobius.mp3


--001485f79552fb1a15046ef77030-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 11:14:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0AB73BE7C; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2MFbr0GeHAgcpd5YJFsRWoQky5kESMn8W14QHof6s5U=; b=ab1QWsOoc7wC1iLLuD9ROIj3QVzbDkEZu1dUPz9lakILnxWLR8R784jL9axoYGJpyS CmLAdmG2kQmmrtQ0qxA8fQd9A2t0aTi5A1G5LrdD0vFt/DLDDBtlYfFyRG3F80QKJ4zF uZiXffiQ2gL8WjpQBBbEGb67rdeDkABcMVSnU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ewbRtaovvwWnXkxNNkn30C7BonGOs80ERm7pMJ+B24PZT/YEKbKkuOFYD+x7gWBmum iRX6rqVTJjBxiHwLoIt8R6xskSLQSIVtTkycGEcFT8AHVlinT3DcygzrzpATqEqrnOAC f0Zd8lVo+KAgIyrYkIxI99+9wytZaH7Z4Guj0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0907171245g690e6e47r5485a7d30decf9@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907171759m3adeaafcx2f72260caca900f8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:14:44 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907180414w13b33392t1f0c7edebfb22a8f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: sequences and the lp-1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:14:44 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > he heh, nice one per! mobius seems to act like a tape machine and spool up > and down between the rate changes...sounds great! Well, actually Mobius doesn't glide but goes directly to the half-note step in speed/pitch. I was amazed too about how it sounds like continuously re-pitching here, like a tape machine. Maybe it comes out like that because the first loop was recorded with reverb? Or because the steps are octaves and sort of confuses the ear/brain? Anyway, I had some problems with Overdub and Multiply being interrupted when feeding the looper MIDI Note sequences. How does that work with the LP-1? Can you overdub like normal while also feeding the LP-1 a stream of sequenced notes? Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 11:52:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74A9A3BE77; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lIei+ogYhj+rBRzKy9lrqS/2Kj3cTgjtcsBn145pfJU=; b=H9xan3jfq5yLxDKDYDUEzjpvxu20zSaBsJDotky5C27ZcvucRIiDOcsK1LkHdL4CM+ yjhCNo2I3T0vYOtB1RCEDBTEO1Q4l2etCdoDkjerb3rfQ/QDV1gMTupWo2VCA+hKz33K kjcdVerpH00mppL3QVZ5NSdy7FeNMt1JhcGUs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=WN+IJqWsHKn7Ie4BoZxFdBrzKOhnIMP6HmBlXCK0Lzt0xvy25jEYnbShnsvpEI+56f reYE98iiOL4p0Q1edcFOsDJWRqnmLkD3KtWjzasBWXG59BuODKAZH9hv1NpUbc9O0N3+ oOjp8eEM/3os+qTvuaFGgNeafi3AXt/FoHqz8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:52:38 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907180452va79fc6ficfbed35643c66561@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Bravo! From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Dear JPR, thanks for your reply (on- and offlist). And no, I'm not blind myself nor have I worked with or for people who are impaired in their eyesight, but some other things I've been working on (and that includes the user interface for my own music stuff) feature applications where you cannot or don't want to look at some status display of sorts. For example, I've been working on some projects in the automotive field, and it's mostly obvious that e.g. a brake pedal which works as an accelerator in case you're programming your navigation system would be unacceptable, even though car drivers are usually not blind and could very well look at the screen ;). > But I'm afraid it would only be one part of the problem. I can imagine ha= ving a large series of switches to trigger a loop machine, but for more com= plex tools like Ableton Live which I would dream to be able to use on stage= , I wonder if > a solution could exist. We live in a strange world where to= day's musical instruments designers spend more money and energy trying to m= ake their products look nice and, well, I don't know if I can blame them be= cause may be a > totally haptic interface would be much too large to be usable. My goal wo= uld be to have a minimum of pre-programmed stuff because I am and have alwa= ys been an improviser, and if I could find a way to create musical environm= ents > on-the-fly, I think I would be the happiest man in the world. One way really is to radically trim down your user interface. I have been thinking about this just recently, bringing down my control set for playing live to some two to three buttons and perhaps an x/y-controller (e.g. a bluetooth-enabled trackball). This would be a big advance for me - although my current control set has already been trimmed down from the last one (of my loop4life programme which I played e.g. at y2k6loopfest), there are still way over 1000 (!) assignments to rotary encoders, buttons, footswitches and expression pedals - way too much. So why would I want to do this? One reason is that I don't want to burden myself by having to learn user interfaces. The second thing (and this is something not obvious to you) is that a musician staring at a computer screen looks utterly stupid. > I'm not sure about motorised faders because I think they might be fragile= even though I could be wrong, but I've always found knobs more pleasant to= manipulate. I haven't used those very much myself, but it seems they are relatively sturdy, unless you do "stupid things" with them (generally, things which would also break a non-motorized fader). The motorized fader idea would have two big advantages for you over the knobs. a) you would be able to just feel how your system is set up at any given moment by simply moving your fingers over the faders. b) if you plan to use some computer-controlled parameter changes (e.g. a random level change), then you'd be able to feeld that as well. Motorized faders have the downside that they do make some noise, so if you're doing some very soft passages in your performances, this might not be for you. > Apart from this, I'm playing with African musicians quite often, and if I= was going to use loops with them, I would have to find a way to match my l= oops or sequences tempi to what they are playing, Now that is a simple one. A lot of loopers offer some kind of tapping feature which you either can use to retrigger your loops or (with some more advanced devices) to timestretch them to fit into a new tempo. When playing with my improvised group, I had good success using a Line6 DL4 and just retriggering it when the loop came around again. This, of course, will not work (or rather will work in a polyrhytmic fashion) if your musicians tend to change tempo a lot. I'd like to ask back: what are your requirements regarding the hardware/software solution you want to use? (e.g. looping or other functionalities etc.) And secondly, how do you want to interact with your gear, and what does work for you? E.g. would a user interface like that of a Line6 DL4 generally work (based on the fact that the few things that are actually displayed by LEDs on this can be either heard from the output or remembered)? Best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 11:55:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B74503BE7E; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:55:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XtHgP7o2Hv1nQABfGBZd78Lw6hqBevG4mA8XB5pEdLk=; b=D8syrf3fO6UjXOdURDgerbx7V0YwtvIZWkOdFyOTaxxp33WHPQra54GTMbanl1Up+O Fp2BsDGlst2egX2J+6TF2wcvQHVz9b6qGPFGfYuV7toU8cHoX08dgCKmSqxSxEQflmml VW0tyjkZLdzqaOFbGpmny4+XavoN1VNtOwLEY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=VXf3yvvNCZAovZEgVz4npvlXm72FW29/Qq6sZn9KD7XhPPCk7LhZQSiMJG5yJHICyL EjkbTCOplK/RejJooJ4zFdp5ge3ga9H64bS32y2hN5b+wwBQSeJjKefFR+RzzNB/pYrG Fj2726HvEstPMIUmOXtzlpw26cQIysqWLp0Gg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:55:03 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907180455o7541e694lec62974a169cb394@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: for our planned festival - distribution channels From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <47foCD.A.PZF.YgbYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:55:04 +0000 (UTC) > Rainer Schwarzschild schrieb: Hey, thanks for clearing that up regarding that copyright management issue. So from what you write, I take it that even though it may work out for artists signed with GEMA if the work is a collaborative one, it would be unfeasible to have the entire festival work under a cc license, right? And btw - could you just tell me who "Rainer Schwarzschild" is? Best, Rainer From info@jiangsu.com Sat Jul 18 12:00:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 749 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:00:15 UTC Received: from mail.alro.go.th (mail.alro.go.th [202.183.194.3]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0272F3BE72; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thaweesuk ([121.121.10.168]) by mail.alro.go.th (IceWarp 9.1.0) with ASMTP id ZSN73426; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:47:26 +0700 Reply-To: From: "DR ZHANG JINGLEI" Subject: JOB OFFER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 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Present Occupation I look forward to hearing from you soon, Dr Zhang Jinglei Jiangsu Tianyin Chemical Industry Corporation zhang_jinglei01@yahoo.cn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 13:10:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C5AD3BE7C; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FemBZXwWCqEbaxyGSUBNRJiNsFTs25YZM4xcunT0IxM=; b=f3g6TWtx2PrxFS+ZFNsVHQ3FgvlY2WcXxxbkS1NNyoNj2YNlArbmLOIFvUwOSd70RR lETHXZRW7aKbZSWMgEtoraRCqL4Oej5egSR2Rqa1zsfb8hTChOC8l+J8Kmp0zyO1ZFvF I5y1h6ZRGgjfM0PFSqG7z3PHvPn7RYHqVB/lY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=hDQuQd3fyX9ZiCyafCqST5fKEXg2ynnvKqXC5GDO3xJMI6Rs4BPGOlWwFzHEWMEAhU A3aaxQh+rWHiMXsuVL9FcfnkglNqDrGXNvwYKQqbm8hXjQPQH8hpivDa3MPFKDa0OoL+ SX6YqJ/yLrlH2RnNL9XExevJgeOw0VkcleC3E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907180414w13b33392t1f0c7edebfb22a8f@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907171245g690e6e47r5485a7d30decf9@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907171759m3adeaafcx2f72260caca900f8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907180414w13b33392t1f0c7edebfb22a8f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:10:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sequences and the lp-1 From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f1e7c292e290046efa9f93 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:10:06 +0000 (UTC) --001485f1e7c292e290046efa9f93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit well that's how the mini-soundscape was created...the loop was in overdub...i was playing into it and the drum machine was sending clock and half speed commands at the same time. the reverse clip was also created like that too. i wasn't sending other commands from my footswitch though...iso havn't run into a problem with that yet i don't know why mobius would have a problem receiving multiple commands though... sim On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Simeon > Harris wrote: > > he heh, nice one per! mobius seems to act like a tape machine and spool > up > > and down between the rate changes...sounds great! > > Well, actually Mobius doesn't glide but goes directly to the half-note > step in speed/pitch. I was amazed too about how it sounds like > continuously re-pitching here, like a tape machine. Maybe it comes out > like that because the first loop was recorded with reverb? Or because > the steps are octaves and sort of confuses the ear/brain? > > Anyway, I had some problems with Overdub and Multiply being > interrupted when feeding the looper MIDI Note sequences. How does that > work with the LP-1? Can you overdub like normal while also feeding the > LP-1 a stream of sequenced notes? > > Per > > --001485f1e7c292e290046efa9f93 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well that's how the mini-soundscape was created...the loop was in overd= ub...i was playing into it and the drum machine was sending clock and half = speed commands at the same time. the reverse clip was also created like tha= t too. i wasn't sending other commands from my footswitch though...iso= =A0 havn't run into a problem with that yet

i don't know why mobius would have a problem receiving multiple com= mands though...

sim=A0

On Sat, Ju= l 18, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jul 18, 2= 009 at 11:22 AM, Simeon
Harris<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> he heh, nice one per! mobius seems to act like= a tape machine and spool up
> and down between the rate changes...sounds great!

Well, actually Mobius doesn't glide but goes directly to the half= -note
step in speed/pitch. I was amazed too about how it sounds like
continuously re-pitching here, like a tape machine. Maybe it comes out
like that because the first loop was recorded with reverb? Or because
the steps are octaves and sort of confuses the ear/brain?

Anyway, I had some problems with Overdub and Multiply being
interrupted when feeding the looper MIDI Note sequences. How does that
work with the LP-1? Can you overdub like normal while also feeding the
LP-1 a stream of sequenced notes?

Per


--001485f1e7c292e290046efa9f93-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 13:16:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 342CD3BE79; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QbGtltWnjbS37OcKCYvxO4qz4z6xrKj7tfmruvmSEeE=; b=hcRCl/mu8H/lnC7lmW60FNegdwi0HrVSSGNAW0BHc6yy5UehItH7R4m2KZ5mhnJcb6 eTvJ3Rxtl9vGDO7P7P60rvW8/l4gp+4yfZu1Ti43exzceL2h37dH0c7P/+y11pRE5N33 gsWZCIsHn3W5l6iV1H94YNc852GkuZWoCnyRU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UcR7QSL/aUuIisAEck9bNtHmdFQzn73D12nP8d/zUSykyUMIl3WbBELVShhngV/DK8 E3hdVZwqKMuxbo+w/H4zDxMjSKUMS65IqMcI/IyctSeONe6cr3kt5JuhvP8dxROuVujy k1EVsgr3CoSZVxr2SH6f2qlL0hQQBb2TKYtMU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0907171245g690e6e47r5485a7d30decf9@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907171759m3adeaafcx2f72260caca900f8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907180414w13b33392t1f0c7edebfb22a8f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:16:30 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907180616s739e9293h95e954c013442296@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: sequences and the lp-1 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:16:31 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > well that's how the mini-soundscape was created...the loop was in > overdub...i was playing into it and the drum machine was sending clock and > half speed commands at the same time. the reverse clip was also created like > that too. i wasn't sending other commands from my footswitch though...iso > havn't run into a problem with that yet > > i don't know why mobius would have a problem receiving multiple commands > though... I don't know either. Yet. But that's easy to check out. I was using the Rate Next command, which is an "effect". The same thing can also be achieved with HalfSpeed/Normal, Speed, or by "playing" the rate/speed by MIDI notes (turning the looper into a sampler). Some of these alternatives may work with a setting where the rate/speed shifting does not end Overdub/Multiply Mode. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 13:30:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 976363BE79; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:30:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:30:55 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=kCZLGtltLzoNbVQHIz5BsTHrxg2rnamcp7NrkQnuy0Z/DWT0Cavthm7e0fgQ8sAU6DYxXRW70iw2TRSsKWyIGggrmn1GGy0SiO+oGv8DDWlXlpVx7jClqDH0ubnUIknMyUnNp/3uBhsBxMlXMMOO1PYuMpCYC8O3sVUh8KhUyTs= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: _0suXHMVM1m.sBlkqP6.pXdiFh.o.ycAFOfwPMiizkn7ciVy7cAwyDL6LjpqLm_drnH.Lz1hnaLLoyeov42ObcAlTi4nkptD.8nWX955t5hULT.W.QJbeJR4NXLScJwbdC3teBUfpaLjC42fggvBxEs3MVmY1leyoy7yitrLjINcG6oGtTKg89YjhRIN7SZUe_rdmenYAVq5_WsWn0c_13PfHjMGspeunJof0I_W.thvHrHn1.fCJtlplYFK59bYEQLWz2gvxjKJW5xist8gnTvr3lxdUU7_Y_kBZuo1wZUkHgsmHJc2ewDzH.c5bmIlT_DN X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ricky Graham" To: Subject: OT: Max/MSP help Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:24:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0081_01CA07B3.6EF3EAE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:30:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01CA07B3.6EF3EAE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guys, I'm hoping those of you who use Max might be able to advise me. I'm looking for advice on the best filter objects, externals that might = be out there. Which are the most accurate in your own experience? Thanks in advance, Ricky ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01CA07B3.6EF3EAE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Guys,
 
I'm hoping those of you who use Max = might be able=20 to advise me.
 
I'm looking for advice on the best = filter objects,=20 externals that might be out there. Which are the most accurate in your = own=20 experience?
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Ricky
------=_NextPart_000_0081_01CA07B3.6EF3EAE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 13:57:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3D2A3BE7E; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nzeJV4dGcbm1X1iJSYX1xsMTcCK2HeYKypxK1Z9kY4w=; b=MMfLtQoahbkUp/TXuXGRuMN+uPObcOVlTlme8YmvMD+a2dQTEFpVpyzglZJf8S2BGv 7LoM/bOpLl97F9FbDCFdBa/1FPx2MRbAujeTWOITB/m70xsr0ulUUdkadFYQrNMGZWqc LOmKtbJeW0hzFtmuqI4/gGsZFxQZpDEYEQOGA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=U3kw3BJNU6RwKqI01f7SAqkTbiEuAdZhC2XGcyJPrjTPRKkwM0wO9K3GieyiWuLpRn Tzpt/0Sw3KaGeIR56Z2k4KHRelNke7YYAPTZ6RDFmChykWBXXOokMq21sOO368ofuCMj 82kezqz2Lnik2dpNWX7IXd+biN8WpueLiF3j4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A617E51.7030100@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4A617E51.7030100@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:57:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Eventide Time Factor From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:57:41 +0000 (UTC) the real pain for the hazarai, imho, is that you have to press one switch continuously so the feedback function works, i mean, if you want your old stuff disappear gradually. i like the abrupt way of stopping the looper, bypass. hate those automatic fade options found in other loopers... 2009/7/18, andy butler : > > > G wrote: > >>> so what is the smallest delay looper pedal that can loop its own delays? >>> the dl4 is too limited i am contemplating the time bender,does anybody >>> have any experience >>> with this one? >> >> As far as I know Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai, it's a stereo looper, >> it's got some other nice features and a lot of fun to play with. >> -- G. >> >> > > well, it *can* loop it's own delays, > ...but in a frustratingly limited way. > > For instance, the only way to stop the loop > is to hit Bypass. > > ....don't try and take mine away tho' :-) > > andy > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 16:16:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB9BC3BE80; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:16:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A61F55A.5050005@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:16:26 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:16:34 +0000 (UTC) Mark, In this forum you just wrote: ".....Plus, I hate traveling. Even for fun... it's not fun when you do a gig with Rick and Bill Walker where you drive for over an hour, spend an hour setting up and shlepping your gear plus a full video set up with a 16 foot screen and find out they can't be bothered to move a monitor near you so you have to play with headphones while smashed all the way off to the side of the stage because they've spit the area among themselves. Awesome......" I have tried to work out our differences off line with you, but you won't reply to me, so, because you do not have the courage to communicate with me directly and have chosen to be critical of me (and my brother, Bill) on this list, I feel compelled to write to you in public. To whit: I would love it, if you have a beef with me (or with my brother) that you have the courtesy to take it up with me (or him, because remember, we are not the same person) off list and , preferably, not three or four years after the alleged slight has taken place. It's just common courtesy and it's just a mature professional thing to do. For one thing: You might find out information that mitigates your particular perception of and assumptions about the event in question. For another: You might illicit an apology if I've been out of line, unnecessarily narcissistic or stressed out (all things I can be guilty of during the stress of trying to produce a multiple person event, where I provide the PA (for free), book the gig (for free), handle all of the communication between artists (for free), publicize (for free and with considerable time and some expense that I have always donated out of my own pocket) and put up the posters. I'm a fallible person and I try to be self reflective and self correcting if I"m doing something wrong or god forbid, accidentally causing another artist harm or discomfort. If I have done something wrong or if you, or any artist, feels that I've ever been disrespectful or merely insensitive, I'd love to know about it so I can make it right and apologize, humbly. Who knows what could transpire, but since I try really hard to be as supportive of artists who play events at events, large and small, that put on, I can assure you that something could easily have been worked out and you wouldn't have had to hang on to this for so long. Since you decide to air this grievance on the list (and years after the fact at that) then let me please publicly go on record about the particular gig you played here in Santa Cruz so long ago: 1) We got into the venue very late on the evening of the gig (due to my work schedule, unfortunately) which threw a real wrench in the entire flow of the gig, since I was responsible for making all the decisions and setting up the P.A. 2) We had always, historically, played the main stage in this venue (where there is plenty of room for many artists) and , at the last minute, they reversed that policy and forced us to cram ourselves into the small other side of the room where room was much more at a premium. This totally threw me for a loop and made me even more tardy in getting the thing going on time. 3) From what little I recall of the event, I was really stressed out and overworked trying to get the PA working and trying to figure out how the hell to accommodate so much equipment. You, yourself, had a lot more gear than I thought you would have and we, well, being the Walker brothers, had a lot too. Also parenthetically, I never received any help from you, either: setting the P.A. up or tearing it down..........a considerable amount of work, particularly at that venue. In this community, I've found that most artists do recognize the hard work it takes to produce a free gig and they chip in a little to help out. 4) I tried to set the gig up so that we split the small space into thirds. I'm a professional drummer who frequently comes to gigs to find that people have not let me have enough space so I'm very sensitive to being as fair as I can about space: ask anyone about this assertion. You'll find it is true. 5) I can't even remember the monitor issue, but if I made a mistake for the aforementioned stress or narcissism reasons, I am deeply sorry that you felt offended and years later I feel fine about issuing you a public apology. ************************************************************************* Also, I would like to publicly state that since that time, I have on numerous occasions invited you to come and play the Looping Festival. I like what you do musically and you've been involved on this list for a long time so I think it's a good thing if you want to play live. I've treated you with respect and tried to be inclusive. This has been very consistent on my part because I believe in such things. You have turned me down every single time and every single time, I"ve tried again to get you to change your mind to no avail. I've never had a problem with it (other than being personally disappointed that you haven't wanted to participate) I wish you wanted to play live for this community because I think you are intelligent, sensitive and a good musician with valid things to say musically BUT.............. I'm completely down with your decision that you don't want to, or that you don't want to play in public. Really man, no judgment from me on that count whatsoever. I DID take you to task a week or so ago on this list for making a lot of statements about the nature of live looping events because, in point of fact, you just haven't' participated in several years and can't really speak with any authority even though you wrote as if you had that authority. Even in this, however, I wasn't maligning your character or your worth. I was just disagreeing with your assertions. It's what one opens oneself up to when one speaks with authority on a public list. But none of what I wrote was personal or designed as a slight to you. I do take exception, however, with the fact that you seem to be both critical and trying to pick a fight with me both in public and in private correspondence of late. There's just no reason for it, Mark. I've always treated you with respect and I've tried repeatedly to be inclusive of you in the public events and festivals that I've promoted. I don't have any malice in my heart for you. I don't dislike you. Please have the common courtesy to treat me with equal respect and let's take all of this off line from now on. You don't have to like me. You don't have to agree with me about anything that I do or any aesthetic I try to embody with the looping festivals I produce . You can hang on to perceived slights as long as you want, but my feeling is that this is not the proper forum for airing these differences. yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 16:45:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 476663BE80; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-657--954585151 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: sequences and the lp-1 Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:45:54 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:45:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-657--954585151 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Jul 17, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/reverse.mp3 - a delay that > reverses every bar - (the lp-1 was in overdub with feedback at 30% > and the drum machine changed the direction of the loop every bar) That would seem to suggest a new loop mode in which the looper oscillates back and forth through the loop changing direction at the cycle boundary rather than cycling back around. Mark --Apple-Mail-657--954585151 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Jul 17, 2009, at = 12:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:

http://www.simeonh= arris.co.uk/misc/reverse.mp3 - a delay that reverses = every bar - (the lp-1 was in overdub with feedback at 30% and the drum = machine changed the direction of the loop every = bar)

That would seem to suggest a new = loop mode in which the looper oscillates back and forth through the loop = changing direction at the cycle boundary rather than cycling back = around.

Mark

= --Apple-Mail-657--954585151-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 16:52:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53CA13BE7C; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=T+PKX7n5Rj6oGy3Ds6fcYhGcF5t9DjEOQcX6851YFv8=; b=Xr33MJvnfc43QhnzeWmd6MVdA7anmrQ4PAuIVsLopRTZadMVH5Hk9RdUTGXTMSiqMV czc1p066P/Y7lXSN7be+bFVYOtEoTI/X3CXh6KcwGDmw1LMMA1y65zALp32dBG08GS++ BoqfQv8AkKT5C3LSl3KYWBA6BtNoWZ/SvlxL8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=J/RGWrf1Rl2SGiRYUwhJP3gzPCO6uVBdcmnpFxhtIsk/0NTXd30G+ylni04bw/D7bY j+lyDrG5eT63fWo1S4/arWtyFdwQhS9raPjSOzxh5gU/UMbeRMv5z6d/3ITrhUTAmtZg mH8PjF8CGKYDa1LdbJeMkc0uTwJe6aKH0tQ24= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:52:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sequences and the lp-1 From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f1e7c2d4c5c6046efdb9fb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:52:13 +0000 (UTC) --001485f1e7c2d4c5c6046efdb9fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit indeed! a little bit like expert sleeper's meringue plugin, i think also...just had a wacky thought... drummer + roland td-10 (or similar electronic drum kit) > midi cable > lp-1 sim On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > On Jul 17, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > > http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/misc/reverse.mp3 - a delay that reverses > every bar - (the lp-1 was in overdub with feedback at 30% and the drum > machine changed the direction of the loop every bar) > > > That would seem to suggest a new loop mode in which the looper oscillates > back and forth through the loop changing direction at the cycle boundary > rather than cycling back around. > > Mark > > --001485f1e7c2d4c5c6046efdb9fb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable indeed!

a little bit like expert sleeper's meringue plugin, i th= ink

also...just had a wacky thought...

drummer + roland td-10= (or similar electronic drum kit) > midi cable > lp-1

sim

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Mark Hambur= g <mark@grubmah.co= m> wrote:
On Jul 17, 2009, at 12:10 PM, S= imeon Harris wrote:

http://www.simeonharris= .co.uk/misc/reverse.mp3=A0- a delay that reverses every ba= r - (the lp-1 was in overdub with feedback at 30% and the drum machine chan= ged the direction of the loop every bar)

That would seem to suggest a new loop mode in which th= e looper oscillates back and forth through the loop changing direction at t= he cycle boundary rather than cycling back around.

Mark


--001485f1e7c2d4c5c6046efdb9fb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 17:01:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 956903BE7E; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5986 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:01:48 UTC From: "Steve Schneider" To: References: <58247.5984.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: dual FX processors Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:22:12 -0700 Message-ID: <00DDD26AA3C14DA685A61EE2489D6391@supercomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoFsBW0KzzBaAo5TLGzGWzCEtMI5wCC080A Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Carvin used to make a dual effect processor like you describe. I don't know if they make it anymore check their website and e bay for used Carvin effectors. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Matt McCabe [mailto:lists@finleysound.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:48 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: dual FX processors On Jun 23, 2009, at 4:27 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > is there a 19 rack dual FX proccesor in other words 2 different > effect proccesors in one,like having 2 different half rack ones to > use as a pre and post FX? > cheers I'm a little late to the party. Check out the Fractal Audio Axe-FX. Crazy routing options. --- King Never free music @ music.kingnever.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 17:11:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E7773BE77; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qMti1QpyISADwDIzgcB3xwoLiqqSZOYWLDVgM9lCPjQ=; b=QRvYYl0MInVPi88mle7oxNtxbZ8VHxB89RDDd1OsvhaFRncippbXYb17Bkbh0o+qdS WlMG86zsSQAK/8TkRfuckBkPOfZph2QmEUjK27+ls+tIiXPIeuzSn37HciUuQulnI8N8 sjthcP5mB2fZQGDr3ffCjgz0yM2zm/bvzNXKw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=aYgbuZqL5Sr+bl5clTbdRipgvjRGLIDulSdkVEI8Q7VIJ1kgZObMByLimLUTjR/QLg YhecPq9fb5oo1uK4JmobMQOgREAoDslnybx2Lg6tOG/j1eZ12mxT74tT2tJlY5MjrZzJ 2mFIrPbNsMCi72xLkt+vkukvMUCQe4M8rCmW8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:11:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: sequences and the lp-1 From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f64b48eb3568046efdfd4c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:11:14 +0000 (UTC) --001485f64b48eb3568046efdfd4c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mark wrote... "That would seem to suggest a new loop mode in which the looper oscillates back and forth through the loop changing direction at the cycle boundary rather than cycling back around." i've just suggested to bob on the lp-1 forum that this would be a superb thing for the lp-1 to do sim > > --001485f64b48eb3568046efdfd4c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mark wrote...

"That would seem to suggest a new loop mode in wh= ich the looper oscillates back and forth through the loop changing directio= n at the cycle boundary rather than cycling back around."

i'= ;ve just suggested to bob on the lp-1 forum that this would be a superb thi= ng for the lp-1 to do

sim


--001485f64b48eb3568046efdfd4c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 17:42:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AC463BE7C; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=O/sQkCYDpUBWylP0rNE1qKaCFoBpvTaYRhBerv0CjE0=; b=iJksQlpXPDDM4FzCQW8tFyClJxF7wpxvIft0YxTXasaZEDmmBALT+/lc0WWKKjxcjk AF2adGmsgGKAbz9gm6R4fthB5XeLneu8quDGjdilrB1Bd/tMiQ9ymsZONBB37YUFis5r Rp4YkwYteEU1YG8chZ2OWDnmzQjzXxxEiwtQE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=L7H8s/0abRRHszh5TFlB52BYc6GkLel2Ex6MzboWylo14gokgkcS/NVFH6ipGFuqUQ GWiu+AeYAsKRyf7KikD9atEYSGsG0LdAe4tUiDMcxslA+KsWSYoJI4dDZaxQrfnHoaBw 2YdDTjce/rDvUrDWEWgnmJSAMIrs9rs0bnU4k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE318610D@barq.sailpoint.com> <101191640907171520v3c49f8di76cb0b7a1a276654@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0907172134x1a3a623di80a999a32916c47b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:35:19 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7567b3cdac8a6874 Message-ID: <101191640907181035r5c946652pe7918142e8bf1b79@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: 10,000 hours From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364582b22154f4046efe5468 Resent-Message-ID: <8FWpCD.A.TjD.ulgYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:42:07 +0000 (UTC) --0016364582b22154f4046efe5468 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Toby, I don't think Art is dissing Gates or Windows, just making the point that tho he may have been an excellent programmer, what he was truly *great* at was building a business (well, Art was saying he's just lucky, but I'm saying he's a great businessman. Just like Steve Jobs. But not as hip.) Warren On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Toby Graves wrote: > Microsoft has done acceptable stuff. I guess the way I measure it is--how > many windows related products have made me say, "wow, that's really f'n > cool?" Full disclosure: I own a PC w/XP and a Mac. > > t > > > On Jul 17, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Art Simon wrote: > > Warren and Jeff, you make good points and I think Gladwell was on weak >> ground we he spoke to computer programming. Was Bill Gates a great >> programmer? What made Bill Gates "great" was that he got IBM to use >> his operating system, but allow him to keep the license. Microsoft has >> done some good stuff, but they owe their continuing existence to that >> one stroke of luck or hubris. >> >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Warren Sirota >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> That would include most of the programmers in the world, and if my >>>> work experience is any indication, very few of them are who I would >>>> consider "great" :-) >>>> >>>> 10,000 hours might get you "professional". You would be able to >>>> compete in the job market and be a valued team member. But great? >>>> >>>> I think greatness as a programmer is much harder to quantify than >>>> greatness as a musician. Many people think Linus Torvalds is great, >>>> >>> >>> >>> how many great programmers have there been in the history of computing? >>> 5? >>> 15? you pretty much have to create a platform to be considered great, i'd >>> say - make an OS or invent a language, something like that. Even if you >>> write a great application program, that doesn't make you a great >>> programmer >>> (tho something like Visicalc qualifies because it started a supremely >>> useful >>> category). a great programmer would be severely out of place on most of >>> the >>> teams I'm on. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Warren >>> http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 >>> http://www.warrensirota.com >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Art Simon >> simart@gmail.com >> myspace [dot] com/artsimon >> >> > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --0016364582b22154f4046efe5468 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Toby,

I don't think Art is dissing Gates or Windows, just mak= ing the point that tho he may have been an excellent programmer, what he wa= s truly great at was building a business (well, Art was saying he= 9;s just lucky, but I'm saying he's a great businessman. Just like = Steve Jobs. But not as hip.)

Warren

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:37 = AM, Toby Graves <ca= rpet8@mac.com> wrote:
Microsoft has done acceptable stuff. =A0I guess the way I measure it is--ho= w many windows related products have made me say, "wow, that's rea= lly f'n cool?" =A0Full disclosure: =A0I own a PC w/XP and a Mac.
t


On Jul 17, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Art Simon wrote:

Warren and Jeff, you make good points and I think Gladwell was on weak
ground we he spoke to computer programming. Was Bill Gates a great
programmer? What made Bill Gates "great" was that he got IBM to u= se
his operating system, but allow him to keep the license. Microsoft has
done some good stuff, but they owe their continuing existence to that
one stroke of luck or hubris.

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Warren Sirota<wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:



That would include most of the programmers in the world, and if my
work experience is any indication, very few of them are who I would
consider "great" :-)

10,000 hours might get you "professional". =A0You would be able t= o
compete in the job market and be a valued team member. =A0But great?

I think greatness as a programmer is much harder to quantify than
greatness as a musician. =A0Many people think Linus Torvalds is great,


how many great programmers have there been in the history of computing? 5?<= br> 15? you pretty much have to create a platform to be considered great, i'= ;d
say - make an OS or invent a language, something like that. Even if you
write a great application program, that doesn't make you a great progra= mmer
(tho something like Visicalc qualifies because it started a supremely usefu= l
category). a great programmer would be severely out of place on most of the=
teams I'm on.


--
Warren
http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
http://www.warren= sirota.com




--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com<= br> myspace [dot] com/artsimon





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Warren
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--0016364582b22154f4046efe5468-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 18:09:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37CAB3BE79; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:09:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LvPvbkFq9Eyqzsa7yL6TXI2fBbFv7zzp/BHT4C8Sm/0=; b=b/ndZevi7/9ZjEuaphkj+hcj2ykPlOoeWCBJiDePCRBpSpiFmf5Ehxi00Jp6xdd22W eIVJyJgdkHKIvsjM75nd/BJe7OX56pPoPA1rO8tDWFK9cXGbkENNbemqLJCHso6zGOnH bQRqswAKvVfRKPpp/fnHC8toxmWtr/DWOWvgw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=U4nYwzp1i1gS/hMfTWLTCasBKKHotQaaSuA1Rjar1KDAlNk5SP0KA3WiFuvfM+L3W2 2mG5HivHBOwFZb5GrSbMWSfjxB3gi6O4oNguYauzWawWgAzJd3VxQb8SaM1gs1ciphxa mKafSDCuonA5BrlVwfHHV8gHXYL3ljc4Euvnw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A61F55A.5050005@cruzio.com> References: <4A61F55A.5050005@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:09:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:09:04 +0000 (UTC) You know how you and your brother sometimes don't talk for years because you hate each other? Can't I get in on that? If you feel we must air this on list, here's the deal. I do not like you or your brother. Where I'm from we call people like you to "assholes." My friend Das who knows you guys from Santa Cruz warned me about you guys long ago and he was right. My first inkling that you were an asshole was that you're smarmy toward woman. I used to work with Kristal from Estonia. Remember her? I found it hilarious that you took such an "interest in helping" her music career. Could it be because she was hot? You were similarly smarmy with my x Valerie, yet ignored my less attractive friend Katrin who's talent on the Chapman stick and Eullian pipes is obviously 100 fold what my x's casual interest in music was. Both of them turned to me, pointed this out and basically said, "That guy's creepy." You sold me 2 CDs of your music. One came blank. I asked several times for a replacement and you ignored me. Why? I'm not even into your noodlings, but I felt I should have it on principal. Oh well. BTW, I'm not just saying I don't like your music because I have a beef with you, I think Bill's music is quite good even though I do not like him personally. The Heaven CDROM. You should be ashamed of yourself. The monitor thing at your gig... awesome way to treat a guest. Why even invite me? I totally owned my own Mackie powered speakers I could have used but didn't bring them because you said you had it under control. By under control you must have meant, "Bill and I will split the stage in half and shove you off to the size away behind the mains and far away from the monitors." Bill seems to think it's OK to lecture me about what's not funny off list. Note to Bill: I'm funny. I know funny. You are not funny. I wasn't even trying to be funny toward Jean, I was just assuring him the lights on the APC40 were tame and not crazy like a Tenori-on. In fact, he and I have been conversing on list on a real solution to his problem, not a retarded suggestion like "use a P5 data glove." That's like suggesting someone use an Etch-a-sketch to draw a police artist crime sketch. Rick, I can't stand the way you've set up your loop fests. "Featured" artists? Who does that serve? The adoring public? Note: there is no adoring public, it's just us. It doesn't elevate the featured artist in any way and just serves to unnaturally demote the non-featured artists. I can't really figure the point of it. If you actually had a name like Robert Fripp it would make sense, but I just looked at your 08 list of "featured" artists, and while I have nothing bad to say about any of them, I've also never heard of a single one outside this list. Anyway, those are the reasons I do not like you and your brother. So what, life goes on, I'm sure lots of people don't like me either. Please don't respond, as I do not care. I'm just going to delete any further messages in this thread. Sincerely yours, Mark On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Mark, > > In this forum you just wrote: > ".....Plus, I hate traveling. Even for > fun... it's not fun when you do a gig with Rick and Bill Walker where > you drive for over an hour, spend an hour setting up and shlepping > your gear plus a full video set up with a 16 foot screen and find out > they can't be bothered to move a monitor near you so you have to play > with headphones while smashed all the way off to the side of the stage > because they've spit the area among themselves. Awesome......" > > I have tried to work out our differences off line with you, =A0but you wo= n't > reply to me, > so, because you do not have the courage to communicate with me directly > and have chosen to be critical of me (and my brother, Bill) on this list,= I > feel compelled to write to you in public. > > To whit: > > I would love it, =A0if you have a beef with me (or with my brother) that = you > have the courtesy to take it up with me (or him, because remember, we are > not the > same person) off list and , preferably, =A0not three or four years after = the > alleged slight has > taken place. > It's just common courtesy and it's just a mature professional thing to do= . > > For one thing: > You might find out information that mitigates your particular perception = of > and assumptions about the > event in question. > > For another: > You might illicit an apology if I've been out of line, unnecessarily > =A0narcissistic or stressed out > (all things I can be guilty of during the stress of trying to produce a > multiple person event, =A0where > I provide the PA (for free), =A0book the gig (for free), handle all of th= e > communication between artists (for free), > publicize (for free and with considerable time and some expense that I ha= ve > always donated out of my own pocket) > and put up the posters. > > I'm a fallible person and I try to be self reflective and self correcting= if > I"m doing something wrong or god forbid, > accidentally causing another artist harm or discomfort. =A0If I have done > something wrong or if you, or any artist, feels > that I've ever been disrespectful or merely insensitive, =A0I'd love to k= now > about it so I can make it right and apologize, > humbly. > > Who knows what could transpire, but since I try really hard to be as > supportive of artists who play events at > events, large and small, that put on, =A0 I can assure you that something > could easily have been worked out > and you wouldn't have had to hang on to this for so long. > > Since you decide to air this grievance on the list (and years after the f= act > at that) then > let me please publicly =A0go on record about the particular gig you playe= d > here in Santa Cruz so long ago: > > 1) =A0We got into the venue very late on the evening of the gig (due to m= y > work schedule, unfortunately) > which threw a real wrench in the entire flow of the gig, since I was > responsible for making all the decisions > and setting up the P.A. > > 2) =A0We had always, historically, played the main stage in this venue (w= here > there is plenty of room for many artists) > and , at the last minute, they reversed that policy and forced us to cram > ourselves into > the small other side of the room where room was much more at a premium. > This totally threw me for a loop and made me even more tardy in getting t= he > thing going on time. > > 3) =A0From what little I recall of the event, =A0I was really stressed ou= t and > overworked trying > to get the PA working and trying to figure out how the hell to accommodat= e > so much > equipment. =A0 You, yourself, had a lot more gear than I thought you woul= d > have and we, > well, being the Walker brothers, had a lot too. > > Also parenthetically, I never received any help from you, either: setting > the P.A. > up or tearing it down..........a considerable amount of work, particularl= y > at that venue. > > In this community, I've found that most artists do recognize the hard wor= k > it takes to > produce a free gig and they chip in a little to help out. > > 4) =A0I tried to set the gig up so that we split the small space into thi= rds. > I'm a professional drummer who frequently comes to gigs to find that peop= le > have not let > me have enough space so I'm very sensitive to being as fair as I can abou= t > space: =A0 ask anyone > about this assertion. =A0You'll find it is true. > > 5) I can't even remember the monitor issue, but if I made a mistake for t= he > aforementioned > stress or narcissism reasons, =A0 I am deeply sorry that you felt offende= d and > years later I feel fine > about =A0issuing you a public apology. > > ************************************************************************* > > Also, =A0I would like to publicly state that since that time, =A0I have o= n > numerous occasions invited you to come and > play the Looping Festival. =A0 =A0 I like what you do musically and you'v= e been > involved on this list for a long > time so I think it's a good thing if you want to play live. =A0 I've trea= ted > you with respect and tried to be > inclusive. =A0 This has been very consistent on my part because I believe= in > such things. > > You have turned me down every single time and every single time, =A0I"ve = tried > again to get you to change your mind > to no avail. > > I've never had a problem with it (other than being personally disappointe= d > that you haven't wanted to > participate) > > I wish you wanted to play live for this community because I think you are > intelligent, sensitive and a good musician > with valid things to say musically > BUT.............. I'm completely down with your decision that you don't w= ant > to, or that you don't > want to play in public. > Really man, =A0no judgment from me on that count whatsoever. > I DID take you to task a week or so ago on this list for making a lot of > =A0statements about the nature of live looping events because, > in point of fact, =A0 you just haven't' participated in several years and > can't really speak with any authority even though you wrote > as if you had that authority. > Even in this, =A0however, I wasn't maligning your character or your worth= . > > I was just disagreeing with your assertions. =A0It's what one opens onese= lf up > to when one speaks with authority on a public list. > But none of what I wrote was personal or designed as a slight to you. > > I do take exception, however, with the fact that you seem to be both > critical and trying to pick a fight with me both > in public and in private correspondence of late. > > There's just no reason for it, Mark. > > I've always treated you with respect and I've tried repeatedly to be > inclusive of you in the public events and festivals that I've promoted. > I don't have any malice in my heart for you. =A0 I don't dislike you. > Please have the common courtesy to treat me with equal respect and let's > take all of this off line from now on. > > You don't have to like me. =A0 =A0You don't have to agree with me about a= nything > that I do or any aesthetic I try to embody > with the looping festivals I produce > . > You can hang on to perceived slights as long as you want, but my feeling = =A0is > that this is not the proper forum for airing > these differences. > > > yours, =A0 Rick Walker > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 18:14:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 817AB3BE79; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=08RGZEYGd1pbXgCwhK4RYEIrwDnOJ/+AaLLt8pSCK2c=; b=LcY+colXLf+cwvhLPUoUf7ZNbY0WviXl1RoJH4dI7zdzsgw03Y4MZP3b/+pdX1SBDW athH6XFvCHFsWAgRNKmpiZB1Be1aSWjXjh67si3DjKtR7gnwfNwqDcpddLb94aKflULc +zbaimG2YPf4ahM6kqq+a9GadWs2G/aBIB7Oo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YztiWPP5iaUm+1e/oEHLHH4kZGSj0bX8C3Dbn1xZe32KqiEXSl7zcivzUuByYHHww5 qjnAZf8F2N5LGb5F7oAXAoUEWGIDNSj+5FfLuzb0OvP/5zXwNQEz5Tmmi5xCppGUyDZA GJitmOOMBAk3zg7MsqE+0cytMVurYh0hoWY+M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640907181035r5c946652pe7918142e8bf1b79@mail.gmail.com> References: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE318610D@barq.sailpoint.com> <101191640907171520v3c49f8di76cb0b7a1a276654@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0907172134x1a3a623di80a999a32916c47b@mail.gmail.com> <101191640907181035r5c946652pe7918142e8bf1b79@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:14:42 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907181114h13e51dc7j8cdcd8eb257d3066@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: 10,000 hours From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Though I've worked in IT tech support to pay the bills for 15+ yrs and time to time hacked away at programming languages teaching myself from C in DOS world to later various in Windows worlds I've never quite had the logic intellect to make the jump to coding for a JOB however I've been fascinated by it. That said I agree the Bill Gates was more right time right place entreprenuer and less an artful programmer. On the other side though maybe Linus T was not in some opinions a genuis programmer I've always felt that those that did things for the good of the Net and world community were to be viewed with high regard. Jim On 7/18/09, Warren Sirota wrote: > Hi Toby, > > I don't think Art is dissing Gates or Windows, just making the point that > tho he may have been an excellent programmer, what he was truly *great* at > was building a business (well, Art was saying he's just lucky, but I'm > saying he's a great businessman. Just like Steve Jobs. But not as hip.) > > Warren > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Toby Graves wrote: > >> Microsoft has done acceptable stuff. I guess the way I measure it is--how >> many windows related products have made me say, "wow, that's really f'n >> cool?" Full disclosure: I own a PC w/XP and a Mac. >> >> t >> >> >> On Jul 17, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Art Simon wrote: >> >> Warren and Jeff, you make good points and I think Gladwell was on weak >>> ground we he spoke to computer programming. Was Bill Gates a great >>> programmer? What made Bill Gates "great" was that he got IBM to use >>> his operating system, but allow him to keep the license. Microsoft has >>> done some good stuff, but they owe their continuing existence to that >>> one stroke of luck or hubris. >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Warren Sirota >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> That would include most of the programmers in the world, and if my >>>>> work experience is any indication, very few of them are who I would >>>>> consider "great" :-) >>>>> >>>>> 10,000 hours might get you "professional". You would be able to >>>>> compete in the job market and be a valued team member. But great? >>>>> >>>>> I think greatness as a programmer is much harder to quantify than >>>>> greatness as a musician. Many people think Linus Torvalds is great, >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> how many great programmers have there been in the history of computing? >>>> 5? >>>> 15? you pretty much have to create a platform to be considered great, >>>> i'd >>>> say - make an OS or invent a language, something like that. Even if you >>>> write a great application program, that doesn't make you a great >>>> programmer >>>> (tho something like Visicalc qualifies because it started a supremely >>>> useful >>>> category). a great programmer would be severely out of place on most of >>>> the >>>> teams I'm on. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Warren >>>> http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 >>>> http://www.warrensirota.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Art Simon >>> simart@gmail.com >>> myspace [dot] com/artsimon >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Warren > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 > http://www.warrensirota.com > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 19:01:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26BC43BE7C; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NdmX0PoKy+sb0mv2D2l4j4bUk+1WOsmbXnut4xjwQzI=; b=pVwJQLWSzfmfmmNWxc1jbih7cEQM4DljoNxpZuPFxIXNp1rIHCGiLLTIu3ziRvKkvi 0W/I+ne9j5nzqKnw97coRgkDYjzhpK0wvrgQ29VyhRHILdwRFZ/SH5w/oscd5aPx5yq/ xCuBzxFUDqR7Mk/rHcJe/hcA0FsX+yVEAqPvI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=J3STJHq6Zy7RiQbvPrk56M2a+oGRE1UpeOh4ZKao89+649dnapJsJR1XPOO3uJDFHa +4upaK6iEXn6R+h+iD4QyV6FuAXt9SJTFWSb+Jgxy2Q3mgXpmj7IvfT/s12F75prfitz LpPkcERlpzajr//dIvGI+TpIcMZF+Z/3bjmOk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A61F55A.5050005@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:01:37 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907181201l5f99db77h383302380094d322@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Gentlemen while I was not personally there and didn't know either of you or this lIst at the time of the disagreements, I'm not sure making any of this public is for the good of this community. I'm sorry that the art of your individual muses is stepping into the human hurt and truthfully ego here. I think this is all quite sad and sad that I guess the only way to communicate these hurts is via list. It does sound like rick exhausted all other contact prior to going public. Anyhow I don't know that I have any biz rrplying on this other than to defend the communities respect that maybe it doesn't need this. I'm sorry that you all 3 have a lot of hurt here. Jim On 7/18/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > You know how you and your brother sometimes don't talk for years > because you hate each other? Can't I get in on that? > > If you feel we must air this on list, here's the deal. I do not like > you or your brother. Where I'm from we call people like you to > "assholes." My friend Das who knows you guys from Santa Cruz warned > me about you guys long ago and he was right. > > My first inkling that you were an asshole was that you're smarmy > toward woman. I used to work with Kristal from Estonia. Remember her? > I found it hilarious that you took such an "interest in helping" her > music career. Could it be because she was hot? You were similarly > smarmy with my x Valerie, yet ignored my less attractive friend Katrin > who's talent on the Chapman stick and Eullian pipes is obviously 100 > fold what my x's casual interest in music was. Both of them turned to > me, pointed this out and basically said, "That guy's creepy." > > You sold me 2 CDs of your music. One came blank. I asked several > times for a replacement and you ignored me. Why? I'm not even into > your noodlings, but I felt I should have it on principal. Oh well. > BTW, I'm not just saying I don't like your music because I have a beef > with you, I think Bill's music is quite good even though I do not like > him personally. > > The Heaven CDROM. You should be ashamed of yourself. > > The monitor thing at your gig... awesome way to treat a guest. Why > even invite me? I totally owned my own Mackie powered speakers I > could have used but didn't bring them because you said you had it > under control. By under control you must have meant, "Bill and I will > split the stage in half and shove you off to the size away behind the > mains and far away from the monitors." > > Bill seems to think it's OK to lecture me about what's not funny off > list. Note to Bill: I'm funny. I know funny. You are not funny. I > wasn't even trying to be funny toward Jean, I was just assuring him > the lights on the APC40 were tame and not crazy like a Tenori-on. In > fact, he and I have been conversing on list on a real solution to his > problem, not a retarded suggestion like "use a P5 data glove." That's > like suggesting someone use an Etch-a-sketch to draw a police artist > crime sketch. > > Rick, I can't stand the way you've set up your loop fests. "Featured" > artists? Who does that serve? The adoring public? Note: there is no > adoring public, it's just us. It doesn't elevate the featured artist > in any way and just serves to unnaturally demote the non-featured > artists. I can't really figure the point of it. If you actually had > a name like Robert Fripp it would make sense, but I just looked at > your 08 list of "featured" artists, and while I have nothing bad to > say about any of them, I've also never heard of a single one outside > this list. > > Anyway, those are the reasons I do not like you and your brother. So > what, life goes on, I'm sure lots of people don't like me either. > Please don't respond, as I do not care. I'm just going to delete any > further messages in this thread. > > Sincerely yours, > > Mark > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Rick Walker wrote: >> Mark, >> >> In this forum you just wrote: >> ".....Plus, I hate traveling. Even for >> fun... it's not fun when you do a gig with Rick and Bill Walker where >> you drive for over an hour, spend an hour setting up and shlepping >> your gear plus a full video set up with a 16 foot screen and find out >> they can't be bothered to move a monitor near you so you have to play >> with headphones while smashed all the way off to the side of the stage >> because they've spit the area among themselves. Awesome......" >> >> I have tried to work out our differences off line with you, =A0but you w= on't >> reply to me, >> so, because you do not have the courage to communicate with me directly >> and have chosen to be critical of me (and my brother, Bill) on this list= , >> I >> feel compelled to write to you in public. >> >> To whit: >> >> I would love it, =A0if you have a beef with me (or with my brother) that= you >> have the courtesy to take it up with me (or him, because remember, we ar= e >> not the >> same person) off list and , preferably, =A0not three or four years after= the >> alleged slight has >> taken place. >> It's just common courtesy and it's just a mature professional thing to d= o. >> >> For one thing: >> You might find out information that mitigates your particular perception >> of >> and assumptions about the >> event in question. >> >> For another: >> You might illicit an apology if I've been out of line, unnecessarily >> =A0narcissistic or stressed out >> (all things I can be guilty of during the stress of trying to produce a >> multiple person event, =A0where >> I provide the PA (for free), =A0book the gig (for free), handle all of t= he >> communication between artists (for free), >> publicize (for free and with considerable time and some expense that I >> have >> always donated out of my own pocket) >> and put up the posters. >> >> I'm a fallible person and I try to be self reflective and self correctin= g >> if >> I"m doing something wrong or god forbid, >> accidentally causing another artist harm or discomfort. =A0If I have don= e >> something wrong or if you, or any artist, feels >> that I've ever been disrespectful or merely insensitive, =A0I'd love to = know >> about it so I can make it right and apologize, >> humbly. >> >> Who knows what could transpire, but since I try really hard to be as >> supportive of artists who play events at >> events, large and small, that put on, =A0 I can assure you that somethin= g >> could easily have been worked out >> and you wouldn't have had to hang on to this for so long. >> >> Since you decide to air this grievance on the list (and years after the >> fact >> at that) then >> let me please publicly =A0go on record about the particular gig you play= ed >> here in Santa Cruz so long ago: >> >> 1) =A0We got into the venue very late on the evening of the gig (due to = my >> work schedule, unfortunately) >> which threw a real wrench in the entire flow of the gig, since I was >> responsible for making all the decisions >> and setting up the P.A. >> >> 2) =A0We had always, historically, played the main stage in this venue >> (where >> there is plenty of room for many artists) >> and , at the last minute, they reversed that policy and forced us to cra= m >> ourselves into >> the small other side of the room where room was much more at a premium. >> This totally threw me for a loop and made me even more tardy in getting >> the >> thing going on time. >> >> 3) =A0From what little I recall of the event, =A0I was really stressed o= ut and >> overworked trying >> to get the PA working and trying to figure out how the hell to accommoda= te >> so much >> equipment. =A0 You, yourself, had a lot more gear than I thought you wou= ld >> have and we, >> well, being the Walker brothers, had a lot too. >> >> Also parenthetically, I never received any help from you, either: settin= g >> the P.A. >> up or tearing it down..........a considerable amount of work, particular= ly >> at that venue. >> >> In this community, I've found that most artists do recognize the hard wo= rk >> it takes to >> produce a free gig and they chip in a little to help out. >> >> 4) =A0I tried to set the gig up so that we split the small space into >> thirds. >> I'm a professional drummer who frequently comes to gigs to find that >> people >> have not let >> me have enough space so I'm very sensitive to being as fair as I can abo= ut >> space: =A0 ask anyone >> about this assertion. =A0You'll find it is true. >> >> 5) I can't even remember the monitor issue, but if I made a mistake for >> the >> aforementioned >> stress or narcissism reasons, =A0 I am deeply sorry that you felt offend= ed >> and >> years later I feel fine >> about =A0issuing you a public apology. >> >> ************************************************************************= * >> >> Also, =A0I would like to publicly state that since that time, =A0I have = on >> numerous occasions invited you to come and >> play the Looping Festival. =A0 =A0 I like what you do musically and you'= ve >> been >> involved on this list for a long >> time so I think it's a good thing if you want to play live. =A0 I've tre= ated >> you with respect and tried to be >> inclusive. =A0 This has been very consistent on my part because I believ= e in >> such things. >> >> You have turned me down every single time and every single time, =A0I"ve >> tried >> again to get you to change your mind >> to no avail. >> >> I've never had a problem with it (other than being personally disappoint= ed >> that you haven't wanted to >> participate) >> >> I wish you wanted to play live for this community because I think you ar= e >> intelligent, sensitive and a good musician >> with valid things to say musically >> BUT.............. I'm completely down with your decision that you don't >> want >> to, or that you don't >> want to play in public. >> Really man, =A0no judgment from me on that count whatsoever. >> I DID take you to task a week or so ago on this list for making a lot of >> =A0statements about the nature of live looping events because, >> in point of fact, =A0 you just haven't' participated in several years an= d >> can't really speak with any authority even though you wrote >> as if you had that authority. >> Even in this, =A0however, I wasn't maligning your character or your wort= h. >> >> I was just disagreeing with your assertions. =A0It's what one opens ones= elf >> up >> to when one speaks with authority on a public list. >> But none of what I wrote was personal or designed as a slight to you. >> >> I do take exception, however, with the fact that you seem to be both >> critical and trying to pick a fight with me both >> in public and in private correspondence of late. >> >> There's just no reason for it, Mark. >> >> I've always treated you with respect and I've tried repeatedly to be >> inclusive of you in the public events and festivals that I've promoted. >> I don't have any malice in my heart for you. =A0 I don't dislike you. >> Please have the common courtesy to treat me with equal respect and let's >> take all of this off line from now on. >> >> You don't have to like me. =A0 =A0You don't have to agree with me about >> anything >> that I do or any aesthetic I try to embody >> with the looping festivals I produce >> . >> You can hang on to perceived slights as long as you want, but my feeling >> =A0is >> that this is not the proper forum for airing >> these differences. >> >> >> yours, =A0 Rick Walker >> >> > > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 19:34:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F1BE3BE7F; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:34:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8P4C70zChbS7XK5lgJ8eLLX4qcEKKGRsVyCjtusMORE=; b=q4mkyOmIr6Wp3Zz7srAFINCiWMbTWb/KvS1mfqr7Rqw0TQYJvEGJY/YhTA2FYgd5v9 eLT45MGSdA03+SCwl8AWnynU3bLRERbA2MJiRTKj0aW7zmx63/whCTlJep2wSxZKx0PO BmHFLgq7YN2QB6N2BdmpSUVNXSfJPjJhrgCO4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=goI1s5mIFIqQs5AiVfVIySgsL7hBqs4xbh5lQUQmAIxGOzIKwCl6s+h1ekdCrWSYlP qd3grWOWJQhqOFUJVkCWP4bIoDsGFnP0gajIdvE0yR8PIJd68i41//dDf0HyElccacpL klI/vFwftreBr959iUFJWsUNLpceFTJAYPH6I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:34:08 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907181234l68795dddg8d26bc9b0580a78d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:34:09 +0000 (UTC) > I'm not sure making any of this public is for the good of this community. I firmly believe that this community is able to withstand this, and if it isn't, it wouldn't qualify as a proper community. I said it before and I say it again: there's too much unreflected adulation and flummery happening anyway, and that doesn't help anyone. If you can't stand open words, then perhaps this world is not the right place for you. No offense, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 19:48:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 195993BE78; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=YAwTAoIBisnQVj6qGUDDc+DKWgoa/agCRqpDkkCKoRQ=; b=HxhPwyLoCpnbeb4r1hy4jULi9h5NI1UJnixyEJf3r+pdKsr8nSMKgueEGokZrTeWPo /Hn02kbyBFHzFVIphdFYU9+Kg7zOTsGbfLD85Qemd3gO43SvFNHFhHsZBLgLpOCpTtu+ cJ45Q8xtn+RJJpzuuNVhNcVdvMpYkwgqE5yms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=N4zGdj2GxkciIuMwI67SqEmHhOk3ngYDd4K/WwT3xdsTo66s7638wBcqaxGGRAGCfF qfLpdl1/Ic/lieO2bq+YInlqEFoIKk1arJ4z1e0VXftAZni+QnFJLeU8ULvSMbdScWtX dFXGR8I1dmylvLhyhVJ6gqH9nlOdcrlYK9IDI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907181234l68795dddg8d26bc9b0580a78d@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907181234l68795dddg8d26bc9b0580a78d@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:48:22 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d9da02aa3c70ab97 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907181248r7d95eee3l69312dd487a833b1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c33883c70a8046f00317b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:48:46 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c33883c70a8046f00317b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well said Rainer and Jim... except the bit about the words... I say full blown fisty-cuffs are the only way to sort this one out... 10 bucks on Rick... any takers? m On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > > I'm not sure making any of this public is for the good of this community. > > I firmly believe that this community is able to withstand this, and if > it isn't, it wouldn't qualify as a proper community. I said it before > and I say it again: there's too much unreflected adulation and > flummery happening anyway, and that doesn't help anyone. If you can't > stand open words, then perhaps this world is not the right place for > you. > > No offense, > > Rainer > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c33883c70a8046f00317b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well said Rainer and Jim... except the bit about the words... I say full bl= own fisty-cuffs are the only way to sort this one out... 10 bucks on Rick..= . any takers?

m

On Sat, Jul 18, 20= 09 at 9:34 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure making any of this public is for the good of this co= mmunity.

I firmly believe that this community is able to withstand this, and i= f
it isn't, it wouldn't qualify as a proper community. I said it befo= re
and I say it again: there's too much unreflected adulation and
flummery happening anyway, and that doesn't help anyone. If you can'= ;t
stand open words, then perhaps this world is not the right place for
you.

No offense,

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer




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www.markfrancombe.com
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http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--0015174c33883c70a8046f00317b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 19:55:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 260C13BE72; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1042 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:55:53 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907181248r7d95eee3l69312dd487a833b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907181234l68795dddg8d26bc9b0580a78d@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907181248r7d95eee3l69312dd487a833b1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7D213E75-852B-426E-852A-274383F8BC69@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:55:49 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc179.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:55:54 +0000 (UTC) On Jul 18, 2009, at 2:48 PM, mark francombe wrote: > I say full blown fisty-cuffs are the only way to sort this one out... A free improvisation Stylophone smackdown. 10 paces at dawn. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 20:01:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CE263BE78; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:01:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <7334ca1b0907181234l68795dddg8d26bc9b0580a78d@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:01:42 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 141.158.125.40 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907181234l68795dddg8d26bc9b0580a78d@mail.gmail.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CBD5F9B40FEC7B_C84_48C1_WEBMAIL-MZ36.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CBD5F9B408C579-C84-23E9@WEBMAIL-MZ36.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:01:55 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CBD5F9B40FEC7B_C84_48C1_WEBMAIL-MZ36.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" there's too much unreflected adulation and flummery happening anyway send some my way!.....adulation that is!.....as for the "flummery", if i can't put it on my bagel, i don't want it.....:)m ----------MB_8CBD5F9B40FEC7B_C84_48C1_WEBMAIL-MZ36.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" 

there's too much unreflected adulation and

flummery happening anyway



send some my way!.....adulation that is!.....as for the "flummery", if i can't put it on my bagel, i don't want it.....:)m
----------MB_8CBD5F9B40FEC7B_C84_48C1_WEBMAIL-MZ36.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 20:18:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F23A3BE7E; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:18:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60907181114h13e51dc7j8cdcd8eb257d3066@mail.gmail.com> References: <588ce11d0907170029p55a0e0ax9783b36b454a3848@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE318610D@barq.sailpoint.com> <101191640907171520v3c49f8di76cb0b7a1a276654@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0907172134x1a3a623di80a999a32916c47b@mail.gmail.com> <101191640907181035r5c946652pe7918142e8bf1b79@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60907181114h13e51dc7j8cdcd8eb257d3066@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <52E41140-69B2-4894-B9CD-8312AD376E86@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: 10,000 hours Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:38:26 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc179.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:18:01 +0000 (UTC) [Jim Goodin] > That said I agree the Bill Gates was more > right time right place entreprenuer and less an artful programmer. On > the other side though maybe Linus T was not in some opinions a genuis > programmer I've always felt that those that did things for the good of > the Net and world community were to be viewed with high regard. Sure, but what skills does it take to "do good"? Do you have to practice 10,000 hours helping the world community? I don't want to sound like I'm dissing Linus and I haven't read the book we're sort of discussing so maybe I'm misinterpreting this. But if we're trying to compare "greatness" in music and computer programming and tossing out names like Mozart, that sets the bar pretty fricking high. I don't think comparing musicians and programmers is that meaningful anyway. Programmers like to think they're "artists" and there is some truth to that. But the disciplines involved, and the economic climate surrounding them are quite different. Laymen often think that writing a program is similar to composing a symphony. What's the most recognized and generally well respected symphony? Something like Beethoven's 9th. What's the most recognized and generally well respected program? Microsoft Word. Are we to assume that the programmers involved in the development of Word are as great as Beethoven? Does Word contain unique structural genius that no one else in the world could have created? Does Linux? The analogy isn't quite accurate, but modern programmers are more like producers than musicians. There is a lot more involved in creating a successful program and helping the world than just writing code. You must be at least as great at team management, marketing and sales. And it certainly helps to be lucky enough to be in the right place when trends like personal computers, the internet, or open source take off. That is certainly worthy of admiration, but it's a different kind of greatness, and it is almost never the work of a single person. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 20:27:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A50A03BE7C; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xD8pm403yXamixs33MAQM5fC4MEkp9TxoPsfdtuV6CY=; b=U3o0wOqlAosFhzpzLVkdF0djYDLEu3G2PuVNNhIlh4DMi1a1cGCSTK4WaToHJ3S/zN Pbw8LreJLobi9/9lehlKeTibHrfH6oC7wmdUmBmjjL+H+hGY11pUMp4Ptqz2eDg5fzSt 3VgnIHz9BynpA3QXwyNMqElKeWRdA7EOlPDXk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SqRse9TCPNcpMP3wgaK9PeKDZ2LSPhR+rgbcEL7D0GLenV6hkFIFeNdO5rjIi0p+rx N40nup9ZODBo6Lm3+xqg6Rrfe4MFXAfT23tBt+mVnWqZPg7rki/DvwaG/k1nuHMeOlJh QMzEYJtYHUJAgMzKJ5fhMnwZQIliFoLFRVtZ0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CBD5F9B408C579-C84-23E9@WEBMAIL-MZ36.sysops.aol.com> References: <7334ca1b0907181234l68795dddg8d26bc9b0580a78d@mail.gmail.com> <8CBD5F9B408C579-C84-23E9@WEBMAIL-MZ36.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:27:44 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907181327h4d0dd425w1d07a87a6a87dad9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Rainer was sure if your words were directed at me for trying to play 'censor' on L D which wasn't my intent. I'm sure everyone has a thick skin and true a contrast in expressive e-language certainly makes entertaining and passionate reading but I just sort of felt the theme running in the dialog was tearing down and fodder for a pissing match that just seemed like it would be better offline, but as stated it was clear that maybe rick had exhausted those possibilities. I just think the whole thing is sad among creative people but in the end that's the balance. Sorry if I appeared a shy school girl or wallflower here. J On 7/18/09, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > there's too much unreflected adulation and > flummery happening anyway > > > > > > > > > > > send some my way!.....adulation that is!.....as for the "flummery", if i > can't put it on my bagel, i don't want it.....:)m > > > > > > > > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 20:28:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 858DE3BE77; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:28:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=81Eh8RxbRez1gPmbTp6mQRjbIaEhfz4ejg/1UUoMYss=; b=fHZKYA/uYtVB8/PAoa1bzrDKMCD7qMxy396MA35CGsZ1h3DgXz92DXvqNEc//uYHd0 pMtcXtzRk1g783rfZ0TrIY7z4hzwoxC37xgv3ML81mKrj0euHVPke4s11sIsSE6xL2rI i65jLBoDa9UUAEu3/ALxM5ZXBNpUOZarY5FhA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JXZsmUmjEiC9qDu+leMC1fL6lENEnYHHNGyPSoduZBPDSOdq/EL1kn8PDJtJQrW8yI RSXsu3jo/UDJxNn0ZUoukZni38YETII7XLGl6MbGqW2ikF83zApu2yCUzjBizr6Vs+i8 W9SJie6JNrfeAJVdZnbbQbopPy8C/pEDhXKcE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60907181327h4d0dd425w1d07a87a6a87dad9@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907181234l68795dddg8d26bc9b0580a78d@mail.gmail.com> <8CBD5F9B408C579-C84-23E9@WEBMAIL-MZ36.sysops.aol.com> <9e0440a60907181327h4d0dd425w1d07a87a6a87dad9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:28:42 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907181328h7d7b4215mce7d728a990e6436@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-b981.A.mZB.8BjYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:28:44 +0000 (UTC) Actually edit was to wasn't first line blackberry slip... On 7/18/09, Jim Goodin wrote: > Rainer was sure if your words were directed at me for trying to play > 'censor' on L D which wasn't my intent. I'm sure everyone has a thick > skin and true a contrast in expressive e-language certainly makes > entertaining and passionate reading but I just sort of felt the theme > running in the dialog was tearing down and fodder for a pissing match > that just seemed like it would be better offline, but as stated it > was clear that maybe rick had exhausted those possibilities. I just > think the whole thing is sad among creative people but in the end > that's the balance. Sorry if I appeared a shy school girl or > wallflower here. > > J > > On 7/18/09, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> there's too much unreflected adulation and >> flummery happening anyway >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> send some my way!.....adulation that is!.....as for the "flummery", if i >> can't put it on my bagel, i don't want it.....:)m >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural > www.myspace.com/CtReUse > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 21:35:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CED5D3BE78; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d+kh2ihDy2XGOLdTIH5Mq9aI99FRKBV2u49r7kKhOoY=; b=PEFVbRpeVo9enGrY4dh9vFH3Q0inTKJTQqIYn7nVrmxb4cr9r7GyLt9mEhasCW7gFe h0evXmjo3ugJgSCd4mZire16cMgpOuOYnEAG29ei80KgzklWPyzVHRtDAFbuZv92PVT4 cCgET3SvqzpIlgIEG2vxySFmg7KZWEuribBIk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=PykJ7qL3lgDbySVR5Zk5y2CGViEZReVQiLHix8M/l+NnS9lMeuIleXRqdWskRc/g/q po0OZDNHjAKQcYfIz2DeMKAQdYSO3SV0JyCe/VbndLl+YR9g8AxlqX4dVptKI+q5K3yQ 3MlWOhXw6XLSFDGHW2SVmZiKLwti66K0AGflw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:35:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Another sofware bargain... this time with something that loops... From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:35:23 +0000 (UTC) I've been toying around with adding Fabfilter's beautiful delay plug in Timeless to my arsenal for a while now and this just popped up on my radar: http://mupromo.com/ Only this weekend but that's a humdinger of a bargain. The delay plug alone is worth that and the virtual analog is one of the best in software IMO. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 21:35:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D47523BE87; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:35:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1327 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:35:24 UTC Message-Id: <6415FB97-0AC4-4192-BD2C-ECCA31DB3263@earthlink.net> From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Cool_MacUpdate_Audio_Promo_this_weekend=85?= Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:03:31 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: <1WFrn.A.-pD.cAkYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:35:24 +0000 (UTC) http://www.mupromo.com/deal/892/5801 "Today you can purchase FabFilter Twin, FabFilter Volcano, FabFilter Timeless together as a bundle. Normally they cost $482.00, but you can buy them for only $99.99." OK, back to the fight! dc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 21:46:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F4003BE80; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:46:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=f0iJxCy9Fpe0WSKxA4GOHhEcJCrYGbelJwVjhNcPwvU=; b=ry5ussXXv61HTF+vZfh9zG5IG5cu3TWRUeQHH5nGIgStZBAvpzJddMhP0DSvu8vfb2 7mOE24gBB94Zp7kn9RRxJvYoLltVq9PwxUB3J1KHoo8KOb5LcvILlMpLbAyPmc/49V+N iSL7c9vr2GwHWyo8EM4+r9Ts3WFor1L0Nx+nk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qvODp8XG4RNK8oNH6qSP3omU8FUc3DenhBy+b7I8wJ8YHEYgdxJsrVtyup7ntsc5ZS tiZk2arRDUJ3zrKaoMHTcAGt5p1FympuKe90bDYcHKBQfGhHRfywKSVr4Cct8MUAAXGH KBbySmCjwTSw/yFdYYVtKWLEdJ5SgAiF78s0s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6415FB97-0AC4-4192-BD2C-ECCA31DB3263@earthlink.net> References: <6415FB97-0AC4-4192-BD2C-ECCA31DB3263@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:46:26 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907181446s979d6c7jfd27a6fc41699227@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Cool_MacUpdate_Audio_Promo_this_weekend=E2=80=A6?= From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:46:28 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:03 PM, David Coffin wrote: > http://www.mupromo.com/deal/892/5801 > > "Today you can purchase FabFilter Twin, FabFilter Volcano, FabFilter > Timeless together as a bundle. Normally they cost $482.00, but you can buy > them for only $99.99." > > OK, back to the fight! > dc ON another list where this was discussed someone posted this link on how you may work with Vulcano to get the most out of it: http://prorec.com/Articles/tabid/109...d-Tactics.aspx The fab's seems cool for a laptop based looping rig. Especially the Vulcano for distortion!!! And the tape delay sim seems good because it has LFO controlled filters inside the delay line - that's a routing I use very often. Especially funning a 110 % delay feedback through a sweeping band pass filter. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 23:30:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5D823BE7F; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:30:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=vnRUtc5SsEL2BgcwRD+gbmxk2iMQvdZrD8ViONkuJds=; b=YfXyIBL3kwFESUcSLOXJ5A8f5VzsUdKxAITeULV3UI0TWtJ/1er5Mql49kGgBj4WvM asXeWnESKXClxruH8FMpdvg1KHVfC69qnK9V77oe7BKl9KQ3hA6jjKeuIUoroEs4lkcc mIKu4BN8E3J5Tlzj4ZHhOTmi0aoYAjQWfKO9k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=P4tNLnI7yX/f1KJM0AsJ8A8VrTd72A59TOC2KaYtMaiwAHWLQmd8ieLdR3bMZZgl/8 fxF3fJNkRCdgMDpedzT/jvBQHS9WDVIEVDqmfC56skHhQfWmbYzassLo+uT2auvt/jZk C7o9QNy6EnhM1/KDCFMCpQYQ7LNheoLsx516s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:30:55 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907181630u71cb9544q4972c9ddf80f1d54@mail.gmail.com> Subject: GigSpam: Chinapainting tomorrow Live/NYC and Web From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b3ffdeaadf046f034bf2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:30:57 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b3ffdeaadf046f034bf2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit okay okay no more sensitivity here... gigs tomorrow I am very EXCITED about! With Daryl out here in the east we are continuing with the trio (plus one webcast) of Chinapainting shows we began last week in Cleveland . *Chinapainting * will be live tomorrow (Sunday July 19) first at 3:30pm EST on uStream.tv in a live webcast and then on stage in NYC, at 8pm. Details... First ever, Chinapainting live and in living color on uStream.tv, 12:30pm PST, 1:30pm MST, 2:30pm CST, *3:30pm EST*, 8:30pm UK, 9:30pm western Europe and 4:30am Japan but please check the World Clock at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ to confirm times in your area. The show URL is my Sunday series at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 . And *tomorrow night at 8pm in NYC *on the lower east side of Manhattan... *ABC NoRio, COMA Improvised music series* *156 Rivington (directions follow)* *Take the **F Train** to Delancey Street or the **J**, **M**, or **Z Train** to Essex. After you get out of the subway, walk one block north to Rivington Street and turn right. ABC No Rio is located between Suffok and Clinton Streets on the north side of the street, at 156 Rivington Street.** * * * Thanks and hope to see you connect or if in NY then at both. Jim *Check out Chinapainting's Night Blooming Cereus CD on Bandcamp.com @ http://jimgoodin.bandcamp.com/album/chinapainting-night-blooming-cereus* * *-- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5b3ffdeaadf046f034bf2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable okay okay no more sensitivity here... gigs tomorrow I am very EXCITED about= !=A0

With Daryl out here in the east we are continuing w= ith the trio (plus one webcast) of Chinapainting shows we began last week i= n Cleveland.

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Details...

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And tomorrow night at 8pm in NYC on the lower ea= st side of Manhattan...

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156 Rivington (directions follow)

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Thanks and hope to see you connect or if in NY th= en at both.

Jim

Chec= k out Chinapainting's Night Blooming Cereus CD on Bandcamp.com @ http://jimgoodin.bandcamp.com/album/chinapainting-night-blooming-cereus<= /a>
--001636c5b3ffdeaadf046f034bf2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 23:40:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E9293BE7C; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:40:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A625D50.2000707@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:40:00 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:40:08 +0000 (UTC) My apologies to the list. I should have not started this thread. It was a mistake on my part and I apologize. Please forgive me. If you feel compelled to respond, please email me off list, okay? My personal email is listed. Then, back to important things like........ .......how about that midi sequencing in the LP-1 and Mobius? Pretty cool stuff, Simeon and Per! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 23:51:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77FA63BE7C; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vxkEkrGMys7BSU5rB2hsuOeK9AcLvznfEXtZu/KF/DM=; b=ettjo8CSiqRd+SniIgfISMxQERrX7OiGBOcwgHHb+kJl/kCD+6eoCq3ZWiqRRGK6MN gdwxr/JW4UcB5uiIlyBUUMqnQHCPuGbXU+mjUNkhNd7KRXLw7yIoWRj5BJ3nktdd5KJO /EaV7K12Oo4LODYfNMBrUnJZFahpqg4Whq7WU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=gRvaelkBgKMrZD9kqs2oq79ZzKj1y1bVVr8DxLTXXAPzHiB3jBbrdOg0jJdcTTIyUe oSH9h60naQx7y11D5N1YLeXquaQCxCOJBEQq/H/k24GdKKRhoGkBw3w8gr85vbYRhn8c 0E6ORG0ZAvHkqi6ju9gZ3DXQbods9XD2BQLdY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:51:38 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907181651k527c98d0m4f3147462ac66273@mail.gmail.com> Subject: how about that midi sequencing in the LP-1 and Mobius? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:51:39 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > .......how about that midi sequencing in the LP-1 and Mobius? Not Mobius if you ask me. I've just tried many different ways of "MIDI Sequencing" it and come to the conclusion that I don't want to do that. I will stick with scripting these type of loop mangling for the simple reason that you get better control then. I find it musically disturbing to that MIDI Sequencing rate/speed alters the loop length. When setting it up as scripts I can work out exactly a balance between up and down rate/speed shifting that keeps the full loop going in the same total turn-around time so it won't lose sync with other loops in parallel. The sounding result are the same, but I like scripting better. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 18 23:57:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AA6A3BE7C; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090718183327.12mt0fe28swc8s08@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:33:27 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker References: <4A625D50.2000707@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4A625D50.2000707@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Rick, Good news is that now that Mark has made his position clear, you don't have to put any more energy into trying to include him.. I applaud Mark for his brutal honesty, especially knowing the probable response (perception of him) from this community.. although from my personal experiences, I think he is off base, and smelled a bit like some sort of entitlement chip on one of his shoulders.. -cpr Quoting Rick Walker : > My apologies to the list. > > I should have not started this thread. It was a mistake on my part > and I apologize. > > Please forgive me. If you feel compelled to respond, please email me > off list, okay? > My personal email is listed. > > Then, back to > important things like........ > > .......how about that midi sequencing in the LP-1 and Mobius? > Pretty cool stuff, Simeon and Per! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 00:07:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 938ED3BE78; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:07:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1247962075; bh=VvTpKTWlI+DA2VMaBXrxtrSNjRieoLCUmgOg57rSZRk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Nunr76k0Qlb4/zssf6p+wRBeXuWYGsr8wufLfjTdhGYCHNxzdMb1n6laxnHWcGzcjrJcLV3dMqXR32W9ubaXwTmAOiklan63J+gwubO/XrjedT8OzSE/vAhvozwbZ4TpywJBnR+cCUo/eah0muukOWnd6la2w8E2I6bFgdY4Ls8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SyF+N/90ltU12z12EiRkvWNCn+p7p3I4cRc1ptDefc3jVQqoF4h42+kC5CMcXsIj+E2X8dOqsFp1a4n+L9aewKi9+e92CGWHUYfoDpIcHuLMY5Rm6t0bY1en75tKaexRPq38z5pHXfiXPEGXqgljtgbcSxXETAywww4HRsOjkhc=; Message-ID: <977215.87485.qm@web51508.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ztqFQCoVM1lQnb2CwRjNeyrbl6DMVFI0naZ7rNnlRzV_YK93pH1S_50.MRnE1UJxpLmBj5UwFGdbX4dl33LXhaUHP7sfedHn.HJWdMa39Yr.J_xrfN3AEv5vUoW7XMjQYtmDHdCeGDFep2zyFoFNiOom7XaLrSHsvtQhaT.XgOuma4wq7.Jzbaxet7yMKJS0sGXuR2PGrv9VhF7z2z8NxvsRbXhRqKtLWp8sqCRv5urgO4ipFgomOLa__J8B2.7pywnHSslLTb5vrzp6kL4KqUqYT6DJr1ucutJGJFizNR4VbXx5hAVdqvqC4OJw.KOF3Z0GXuhde4W8ftgTWpcxNa_XoP5g5uff.O_3CvmA X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:07:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Marshall Subject: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1191383492-1247962075=:87485" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:07:56 +0000 (UTC) --0-1191383492-1247962075=:87485 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Marc Marshall =A0 =A0 "I am human, I am large, I contradict myself" =A0 .....and then some=A0=20 --- On Sat, 7/18/09, Per Boysen wrote: From: Per Boysen Subject: how about that midi sequencing in the LP-1 and Mobius? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 7:51 PM On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > .......how about that midi sequencing in the LP-1 and Mobius? Not Mobius if you ask me. I've just tried many different ways of "MIDI Sequencing" it and come to the conclusion that I don't want to do that. I will stick with scripting these type of loop mangling for the simple reason that you get better control then. I find it musically disturbing to that MIDI Sequencing rate/speed alters the loop length. When setting it up as scripts I can work out exactly a balance between up and down rate/speed shifting that keeps the full loop going in the same total turn-around time so it won't lose sync with other loops in parallel. The sounding result are the same, but I like scripting better. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com =0A=0A=0A --0-1191383492-1247962075=:87485 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Marc Marshall<= /EM>
 
 
"I am human, I am lar= ge, I contradict myself"
 
.....and then some&nb= sp;

--- On Sat, 7/18/09, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:

From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
S= ubject: how about that midi sequencing in the LP-1 and Mobius?
To: Loope= rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 7:51 PM
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Rick Walker<looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:> .......how about that midi sequencing in the LP-1 and Mobius?
Not Mobius if you ask me. I've just tried many different ways of "MIDI
= Sequencing" it and come to the conclusion that I don't want to do
that. = I will stick with scripting these type of loop mangling for the
simple r= eason that you get better control then. I find it musically
disturbing t= o that MIDI Sequencing rate/speed alters the loop length.
When setting i= t up as scripts I can work out exactly a balance between
up and down rat= e/speed shifting that keeps the full loop going in the
same total turn-a= round time so it won't lose sync with other loops in
parallel. The sound= ing result are the same, but I like scripting
better.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

=0A=0A --0-1191383492-1247962075=:87485-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 01:18:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAFA13BE7C; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:18:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:18:11 -0700 Message-ID: <4AC1854B4C75433B9C525E489D0C79D8@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01CA07D4.1ECA8350" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoIDsf5cvXbdvCoSDe9ON2w3Zk2Xg== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:18:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01CA07D4.1ECA8350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is uncomfortable, Mark I purposefully have not responded to you on list because if I have a bone to pick with someone I prefer to do it in private. I'm going to continue that policy. If you were trying to divide us with that remark you only succeeded in uniting us. The remarks about Rick where really particularly mean spirited. These kinds of slanders are real poisoning to everyone involved and have no place on this list. So you have made your point, you don't like us, you don't like the Loop festival. Do you feel better now that you have publicly humiliated us? Can we move on now that you have declared us both enemies? We know and we will be watching our backs. To the other list members I'm really sorry that you have had to bear witness to this. If you feel the need to respond I encourage you to do so Off-list. Thanks Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01CA07D4.1ECA8350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This is uncomfortable,

 Mark I purposefully have not responded to you = on list because if I have a bone to pick with someone I prefer to do it in private. = I’m going to continue that policy.

If you were trying to divide us with that remark you = only succeeded in uniting us.

The remarks about Rick where really particularly mean = spirited. These kinds of slanders are real poisoning to everyone involved =  and have no place on this list.

So you have made your point, you don’t like us, = you don’t like the Loop festival. Do you feel = better now that you have publicly humiliated us? =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;            =   

Can we move on now that you have declared us both = enemies?  We know and we will be watching our backs.

 To the other list members I’m really = sorry that you have had to bear witness to this. If you feel the need to respond I = encourage you to do so Off-list.

Thanks

 Bill

 

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Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <34Iir.A.__B.RXqYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 04:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Couchsurfing.com was recommended by friends of mine too - I just joined - thanks for getting that ball rolling! Unfortunately my own apartment is too small to host anyone. I was a little worried about the question that said, "Will your sleeping surface be shared with other humans?" I guess it's a cultural thing, since it's not just USA. Matt On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Stefan > Tiedje wrote: >> This reminds me how wonderful the whole couch surfing community is >> organized. We should open a Loopers-Delight group @ couchsurfing... >> >> I just created it, any couchsurfers can now join in: >> >> https://www.couchsurfing.org/group.html?gid=21286 > > From mrsambaibrahim273@msn.com Sun Jul 19 05:18:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 336 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:18:59 UTC Received: from snt0-omc2-s21.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s21.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.96]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FFFD3BE72; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT108-W34 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s21.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:13:10 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_270c0fee-16fe-45d7-9b98-49ed7f33d0e5_" X-Originating-IP: [41.203.233.120] Reply-To: From: samba ibrahim Subject: I NEED YOUR URGENT ASSISTANCE Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:13:11 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2009 05:13:10.0972 (UTC) FILETIME=[9C2647C0:01CA082F] To: undisclosed-recipients:; --_270c0fee-16fe-45d7-9b98-49ed7f33d0e5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From the Desk of Samba Ibrahim Manager Bill and Exchange Dept African Development Bank (ADB) Ouagadougou Burkina Faso.west Africa Dear Friend=2C =20 =20 I know that this mail will come to you as a surprise. I am the bill and Exc= hange manager in African Development Bank Burkina Faso west Africa .I Hope = that you will not expose or betray this trust and confident that i am about= to Repose on you for the mutual benefit of our both families.=20 I need your urgent assistance in transferring the sum of $15.2 million Imme= diately to your account. The money has been dormant for years in our Bank h= ere without any body coming for it. =20 I want to release the money to you as the nearest person to our deceased cu= stomer(the owner Of the account) who died a long with his supposed next of = kin in an air Crash since July 2000. I don't want the money to go into our Bank treasury as an abandoned fund. 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Manager Bill and Exchange Dept
African= Development Bank (ADB)
Ouagadougou Burkina Faso.west Africa

Dear Friend=2C =3B
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= --_270c0fee-16fe-45d7-9b98-49ed7f33d0e5_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 05:27:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D55E3BE7C; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:27:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4AC1854B4C75433B9C525E489D0C79D8@williamsteed> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:27:15 -0700 References: <4AC1854B4C75433B9C525E489D0C79D8@williamsteed> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:27:17 +0000 (UTC) I've heard VH1 is picking up Loopers Delight as a new reality show. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 05:55:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C738C3BE7F; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3606 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:55:17 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:39:28 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: New Photo Essay on Flickr, new video on You Tube. Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I posted a new photo essay called "Wall Street Vision" at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157621539858767/ I went to New York in June to attend three nights of the Vision Festival, a wonderful event which dedicated to innovative jazz and improvisational music. On the afternoon preceding the third event, the sun came out, a rare occurrence in the Northeast during June 2009. I decided to take my camera and the inspiration I had gotten from the first two nights to the steel, glass, and concrete canyons of the Wall Street area in Manhattan, The "Wall Street Vision" photo essay is the result of this excursion. Improvisation is where you find it! My collaborator Dennis Warren posted an excerpt from a very high energy show we did recently at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMddNmQeEDI My other You Tube videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Enjoy. -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 11:15:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E176E3BE73; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hA1zSKUkot1zKCOqdQ6IhNxZUZodBdhSCufQLLmy+tg=; b=oVKbVjc+n5dxY8yWRKebUg0Ujvp5tuw25ojXhhyjJPJ6DA479iBZee4ib5yrebp5fl IJaN1jKYTsRrFq+UCzGDQzU4/9EIh/bKccbyX3t8FFI66Q918zfSJqV2JVWW7SoiTAwH j+t9FIdEobybaJZuZzKoYwY8epkXz+GUTlbP8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mL5+arVAGUG1ll7N7nRA8SlVTtGtq+vgHD+tfoPAoSmsM43RjBAe7wEQbeTDliuLUF tUxqsf7A9ir1YMVpKL+hUBkN9iCOvZEd3EOwB7bdr3FOuh5gl3wX2GkjHq336M1IS+w/ 1cUpvrt1qj3LGllcO8IXpUM323+ERzp5gP8gg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:15:11 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907190415g2380c9b4w16f3e47102b3e2b3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New Photo Essay on Flickr, new video on You Tube. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:15:12 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) wrote: > I posted a new photo essay called "Wall Street Vision" at > http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/sets/72157621539858767/ > My collaborator Dennis Warren posted an excerpt from a very high energy s= how > we did recently at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsMddNmQeEDI > > My other You Tube videos can be viewed at > http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld > > Enjoy. > -- > " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." =C2=A0-- Paul Bley > Very inspiring, both the concert video and the NY pix. Per -- "I would suppose that after one practices for ten thousand hours, one would become very good at practicing" -- kkissinger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 11:22:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0339E3BE77; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FS5StGey79bWnbG09EPYzjov6FpCvZBdco0eJlk/JAI=; b=kHzchRf9FvxcSRm4vW1DGoNsfFQ9fXF+F5jd6qr3P12vF9vQDKM7/Yk+h73VqcXdN+ q6QoaMe0L5DFkxsjWP7SsVD0wgkB36DbCnTq4L0lf9GcSJIWOJlBjB3rJWy06/TIdJ/i ScSYPPzSRliNDYanhsIORbqwjBrh+ZKw8Wahg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H48+lN8GKGtckAQVleQkvfB/zVrNtE82jBOc/Rrwz1N1csQovnAuQ06pG5oe8DcTR7 VpAQLJC9eaZ53BHS8Bhhp91tgPaiClnNWm3cZzRAvuQVp2U5Ti5nM8/DfKdzyrk/ORAL PjVXh/2HAAM+x57ZEdpEc0bqxuDwUjiP5WpaA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:22:27 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907190422w4d9826eq79d77268ed2e0cbb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: couch-surfage in general From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <74CqQB.A.EXB.zHwYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:22:27 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > > I was a little worried about the question that said, "Will your > sleeping surface be shared with other humans?" I guess it's a cultural > thing, since it's not just USA. Guess you're right. So what creatures do you Americans sleep with? Per ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 11:47:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E30F83BE6F; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d4uHCV5F3luUpPwANpDnlBZlFAlxYitA6sN+sBZct/o=; b=hQ3UpuzJc9WNcFakhdFt/N7s6BQe9D3qLnhIOafNDT73HvWdUOGUQiJLdgE2bKq1uK fslI65+T8yPx4Q8pGsXLSBBU111G0hVA3KRDCcf5CsNCP+L4bpEBs75cMuGEYqH3bcKG vxjKokS+fM2N5xHVPV77GQ6HGca9z5o5qhF2M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=F5nQUNF6586aVLKl0mCi6+UcsJjB9nP43Jk/XT3si277P5RkucU+O3RjS1RXoguS+C 6WpUjNXWowD/K8KWEGO2e5/2Y3XoQtAXRxdLKdhydTtF2TIrOQcdic7goE2kvZ6ueEOO w2Y4rp0SMpu8EIPYVLDxAneT1YK7LsOWsTgCA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:47:14 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907190447u45650742ld28d14fe108f89be@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: 10,000 hours From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Jeff said: > The analogy isn't quite accurate, but modern programmers are more like producers than musicians. There is a lot more involved in creating a successful program and helping the world than just writing code. > You must be at least as great at team management, marketing and sales. This is no doubt true, but then again to get your big symphony with chorus performed and recorded, you need to have those skills as a musician as well. The analogy would be correct if we just look at a piece of software that was developed by a single programmer single-handedly and for one moment don't look at the marketing, production, program management etc. process - like with Mobius? ;) Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 11:54:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BF163BE78; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=a3WXsJVXIX3qaZL8veeiaSjgqT72Ubnw9GjIoGbtS5YpEHLwPWXU1F4jPQzBQtQh9dEG45hNglqafQdilUS/SetS6FXYltleONh0QMq/FmycyH/FFcIdVlWqQwWd+HkX; Message-ID: <20090719065455.7obqiqjjwcgws0s0@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:54:55 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker References: <4AC1854B4C75433B9C525E489D0C79D8@williamsteed> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Mark Hamburg : > > I've heard VH1 is picking up Loopers Delight as a new reality show. > > Mark > Yep. But... after the first scene it goes into reruns. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 12:01:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAF543BE73; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=TVs6GGQlUHYRpb/9kVN5d3sDrNomuODZcMt0PkT7Dm5C4frRPev7u8GLo52/PoKr8Iue359UQOpr0TLbm79KuxzNvs6K6yKI46Pksmd2muAk7ebGh96s0rleUz4JJiva/D4y+/b1O7cw6yaE54+j2qYtgVMDK7rzLpMFPkWsjsk= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: IMvfdpEVM1maaRGyEVYEQQQH.nwc.lrQzGUvSJpIkhod.6OS.03nQScp1qSkbv6G6KHAuDdkqHE7Z3XamZTceOtHw2MMp_97WtUznMn3opX2e86RhH5k2DdbnDvWZ5SoGhVcDjN8zwbz1b_q7B0mHcNDphxZfXbv6zbSiJOXZGFKNkc6AfNxniYqdCYxNCEtvVQyZ2FhWDQT9uFgnST6EOKrDfNh2cvODsvUU_YRr5JiACvQ1VxJ9hgyq.STJG_mRXJ7rkI_ib9F4Tvkg7IftZZF5mncEdc5TSP4Wa1OUOOvMfs2yi.YpMw3Y1EJ6x.5XNQOYLkDfS1gIJbWv_igNQC4gTvZYlsIUKw- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <3B00DC2CFC8B47D8888D7C75DE42AAB0@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <4AC1854B4C75433B9C525E489D0C79D8@williamsteed> <20090719065455.7obqiqjjwcgws0s0@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Subject: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:01:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:01:10 +0000 (UTC) I can see it now, "Per's final thought" ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:54 PM Subject: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker > Quoting Mark Hamburg : >> >> I've heard VH1 is picking up Loopers Delight as a new reality show. >> >> Mark >> > Yep. But... after the first scene it goes into reruns. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.19/2247 - Release Date: 07/18/09 21:14:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 12:14:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EA2B3BE77; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:14:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rHnpKR1VZdwFsDJbbTV6y4qtYdd4ZJ+g5v2nBA7Dyis=; b=BKYYvImLXYT4G4b7cceZH1DBtjSDAJFjr52rGlEF3++3hbvVxEF3J10k/l4UDSlXYh 7f2gpXuLPnGGzOr7dhlCoorrJaQUwE5MIBBxiaCb3lOQHqnbaA5cUDJ9n1s0yf48qGqE pDC6BL0X8q4aEHYVlosG9Rhw5hrm7BZw1lvbo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ibJtvLxEs2T+OUGKiIX6oQMAfRdiC5UcOn5BwDh4hcc9MoGMVgrH9YCfIbqlGduKRT +nxHB7EaXA4yDj4ohmN2vGQHRdJCUlV+ueDquQ33zTgGEh9EMDuAURM62/2RgJEYGs5J lTmoMSqgsHvoxLkvjabC+fBHzzPpoLVhTJVGU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:14:04 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907190514w72d3f4fj83f449ce2113cb7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: how about that midi sequencing in the LP-1 and Mobius? From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:14:05 +0000 (UTC) Per said: > > .......how about that midi sequencing in the LP-1 and Mobius? > Not Mobius if you ask me. Interesting to hear that. I believe to get your point regarding staying in the timing scheme of a loop when doing rate shifts as opposed to a strict time base coming from a sequencer, but I found, on the other hand, using a pattern sequencer like Ableton Live (which I do use mainly as a VST host for, among other things, Mobius) does actually help if you want to stay in some sort of absolute time frame. In a way, this comes close to what Claude Voit used to do with the pattern sequencer of a Nord Modular G2 in combination with some EDPs. For the general concept, I quickly found that when controlling Mobius with a sequencer, I tend to turn off any quantization and only keep sync within Mobius (if and when applicable) but not between Mobius and the sequencer via VST Host or MIDI sync, instead assuring sync via retriggers sent from the sequencer. When using the simple forms of rate shift (e.g. going into halfspeed at the beginning of the loop), it's rather simple - the loop length effectively doubles in the time domain, however, this is, as you pointed out, not as simple if you use more complex rate shifting patterns. However, when I do that, I usually like to have that happen in steady timing intervals, not in steady "loop content intervals", so doing the shift sequence with commands sent from the sequencer in its time domain (instead of shifting from a loop at specific 8ths/subcycles) will keep the rhythmically very noticeable shifts at the timing intervals where I want them - and I can make up for any resulting misalignment by using the retrigger wherever I need it. Best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 12:41:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAC143BE7E; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=btf3H6zDKZFYfdm00801zsaO7K6jqNdaePXYcFyk/Xs=; b=liZzSeuCREnaeXSMHWW6FaWRswcrMJhAZFyyLtM2AFwUPJz2HwTURj2uQ8jK8tBtA2 13xYvS/QYp4FEVeYkQ+qrfNT8nORXDsluC8xyNKPcFGD4ovZqnifxKcnvFuonflrh9Yg KZONODSCvI7uCNNc6heWirsChtQTXIIKx1M4M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pNmeDVy0hyzxWYgDeXb8x/vDio6J22GWSxdxKJlhxBzWAiZ/G40pTnkj4j9ijI1cg6 9sXkafTApQfQkzVt90XTZ/y9EdRjdEEvNuuJUgJd35VLEkxLx/Oie5+YQQ2wCI8yFuQ6 DeAGIKSHUOud0phk0Rd855HlEop/Tth370Ohc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907190514w72d3f4fj83f449ce2113cb7@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907190514w72d3f4fj83f449ce2113cb7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:41:27 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907190541j777c0f28wbc71042575923f46@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: how about that midi sequencing in the LP-1 and Mobius? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:41:30 +0000 (UTC) > Per said: >> > .......how about that midi sequencing in the LP-1 and Mobius? >> Not Mobius if you ask me. On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Interesting to hear that. I believe to get your point regarding > staying in the timing scheme of a loop when doing rate shifts as > opposed to a strict time base coming from a sequencer, but I found, on > the other hand, using a pattern sequencer like Ableton Live (which I > do use mainly as a VST host for, among other things, Mobius) does > actually help if you want to stay in some sort of absolute time frame. > In a way, this comes close to what Claude Voit used to do with the > pattern sequencer of a Nord Modular G2 in combination with some EDPs. > > For the general concept, I quickly found that when controlling Mobius > with a sequencer, I tend to turn off any quantization and only keep > sync within Mobius (if and when applicable) but not between Mobius and > the sequencer via VST Host or MIDI sync, instead assuring sync via > retriggers sent from the sequencer. > When using the simple forms of rate shift (e.g. going into halfspeed > at the beginning of the loop), it's rather simple - the loop length > effectively doubles in the time domain, however, this is, as you > pointed out, not as simple if you use more complex rate shifting > patterns. > However, when I do that, I usually like to have that happen in steady > timing intervals, not in steady "loop content intervals", so doing the > shift sequence with commands sent from the sequencer in its time > domain (instead of shifting from a loop at specific 8ths/subcycles) > will keep the rhythmically very noticeable shifts at the timing > intervals where I want them - and I can make up for any resulting > misalignment by using the retrigger wherever I need it. Yup, you have it perfectly right, Rainer! I would do it just as you, if I would want to control the looper's actions from external MIDI sequences. But today I just find scripting simpler. A simple and minimal performance rig opens up for more adventurous playing, which is where I have always wanted to place my priorities. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 14:46:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25CBA3BE78; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 313 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:46:15 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date :x-mailer; bh=BJtWX3/SXOeiFALo8m/ZPbWF9ggn6Y44sfOsiIfcrHY=; b=d/WEgFidjMpPvJ4upGI6f0A2W6D9jrDOkqh05cM5ASnlT+RI0rbxTwNROOSABmA5yA epqr5ppdtPIp9TcFESXUzNCz+CjuWYhV5QKJxY+0rg4BwTcC4gMBCkv6NhwCE60aTqKP 9hlGg0s1KbSblkSIxwGStZrJOGZ7gp0Sa2clg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=YpM2cjzGjA2rew336CaIqrJYSaon5/ZuRSg9DjfKRyosiQNlV2mMmbUSJ5+hzp0mm5 ZXvoVIJwNbwrIgRRIKUt9aE7kiJSOS9JuVnGjHwpqZ4/prcGjQVnvdD++yZmaHFUJEeU PAZ9vP66OcrAWn7XBASIGK4AehCdTaUG94gKI= Message-Id: From: Matthias Grob To: Loop List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: why we founded this list Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:40:37 -0300 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <5_CJF.A.Q1H.3GzYKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi I don't post here very often any more, but I did a lot in the past and =20= I consider myself one of the founders of this list. List owner Kim does not seem to be much interested in looping any more. My interest always was of a deeper nature and I think I brought the =20 initial spiritual content. I was fanatic and I still think of livelooping as a healing method and =20= would like to improve the world with it. In 1992, when I wrote the folder for the LOOP delay, the first =20 dedicated livelooping tool, I started the "loop groop" as "Forum for =20 loopology and repetitive hapenings" and defined its purpose as: "Exchange of ideas about composing, recording and distribution of loop =20= music. Establishing a place for it in the media and in the record market. Simpli=EF=AC=81cation of development and distribution of speci=EF=AC=81c = equipment. A record label ? A speci=EF=AC=81cally equipped studio ?" The "condition of membership" I imagined as: "Introduction of a loop music recording or any other related work =20 (like optical effects, computer programmes, special electronics, =20 psychological discoveries etc). Members can receive as much =20 information about the others as they present about their own work. =20 Spiders handle the information exchange in the net and try to connect =20= people of similar interests. " (I don't know how this would have been possible, I did not know about =20= mailing lists at the time) When Keith discovered the LOOP delay and called me to Gibson, Kim did =20= his first job as EE there and learned about looping when one of the =20 units hit his lab desk to improve it! So we worked together on the EDP =20= long before we worked on the promotion. And when the web became =20 spread, he knew how to setup a site and a mailing list and did it his =20= way... Thats why I still feel a fatherly responsibility to support this =20 movement until it grows by itself and the information about the deeper =20= use of looping tools becomes spread. We are not there yet as I want to discuss below. Some hours ago, I was going to answer a mail from Rick about the =20 festivals and once again thought about what has come out of this and =20 where we are heading for. I thought about it almost every day since =20 1986, and since february, I am writing on the livelooping theory, and =20= collect videos on youtube and discuss strategies with the most =20 involved looping friends. So Marks post makes me say something about it all to all. This paragraph is about the personal situation, you can skip it: I am a true friend of the Walker brothers and I also had a good time =20 with Mark when we have been neighbours for some fantastic coincidence, =20= when I lived in Gary Halls house on Alameda island. (Gary is one of =20 the fathers of livelooping, now retired in Tailand) Mark and me did not maintain contact, so we may not be friends in the =20= closers sense - thats live as he said correctly. He is an intense =20 poster with strong opinions, honest but sometimes hard... I would love Bill and Rick even if I thought of their festival as =20 useless or whatnot. its love, I find them of the most good willed and =20= tender and talented persons I ever met! To question the festivals and the group purpose here: Why do we do all this? There is a big deep question why we like to play music and why looping =20= is even more fun, we discussed this over years and I am trying to =20 write an abstract about it, just wait, I will want to discuss that, =20 too, but now its about playing live: Most of us don't want to make a living or become famous, but have fun =20= and grow with their music and get a feedback from some listeners =20 sometimes. Some enjoy the exchange of this music and fascination so =20 much that they buy over sees tickets to get to the meetings - thats an =20= amazing power! It helps to make the festivals days of big expectations =20= and joy and the festivals I attended were completely dominated by =20 love, tenderness and spirituality. So there is not the slightest doubt that the festivals are useful and =20= should go on and we can only be very thankful to Rick and all the =20 other organizers for their huge effort to make it happen. Still, some of us also want to make it a living. For them it would be =20= great if the public would come to the festivals and the producers of =20 events and movies and such would call them up and say: "we decided =20 that some livelooping music fits our production best, can you do it?" And those producers would like to just write "livelooping" on their =20 banner and get the house full of livelooping fans. So how and when can we get there? Anyone is free to say on this list that they don't like to travel or =20 play live or exchange their music and only want to exchange tech infos =20= or have fun... but it may not be very useful... ... or don't you agree that this list should mainly serve for those =20 who do want to play in public and spread their music? ... or should we create a separate list for the professionals?= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 15:24:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 580A73BE77; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:24:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wHAN+qtZH60BNhLztSpHIiyOjZVoHcM3gaWe2qq5ON0=; b=lXlx+H628ySCzsGPPRChTNyJx0ZI30ySQ5jJBeiqg5d0yPynBFQjvI15arIa0r5qT/ HsdvmxEURRzhNStzlqs9RU5+wOqZgzg1DPn6hUapXLPKnsWCuePv3GPV6YswmhEP8wBs KKWea/53o7JH4wjoE1JkS2UvwSfMKc32X9gps= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HL2b3VvVdiPuSEwqld71l0OyMA/4NNFb2ZnLYrJr6OhyvwuY8B4Xo2y4yRHrmB6HPj MkB45uwJwzrYwPIq90/ooYf+GwE4zr0En4XXs4pLmTG/Dxyzn0kcz1wdE2KjUvZ4KRWk TpMJ5Qu/9oDLfEWyItZUEHkzm5X3wADngoao8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:24:04 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907190824o17b1015eub62039ced05e5ce3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: why we founded this list From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:24:07 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Matthias. For someone like myself who hasn't the history with this list or looping for that matter this is a very helpful and informative read. The history of you. Kim and others mentioned is amazing. On a level one could say out of the recent tension comes release and positive energy such as your post. Thank you. Jim On 7/19/09, Matthias Grob wrote: > Hi > I don't post here very often any more, but I did a lot in the past and > I consider myself one of the founders of this list. > List owner Kim does not seem to be much interested in looping any more. > My interest always was of a deeper nature and I think I brought the > initial spiritual content. > I was fanatic and I still think of livelooping as a healing method and > would like to improve the world with it. > In 1992, when I wrote the folder for the LOOP delay, the first > dedicated livelooping tool, I started the "loop groop" as "Forum for > loopology and repetitive hapenings" and defined its purpose as: > "Exchange of ideas about composing, recording and distribution of loop > music. > Establishing a place for it in the media and in the record market. > Simpli=EF=AC=81cation of development and distribution of speci=EF=AC=81c = equipment. > A record label ? > A speci=EF=AC=81cally equipped studio ?" > The "condition of membership" I imagined as: > "Introduction of a loop music recording or any other related work > (like optical effects, computer programmes, special electronics, > psychological discoveries etc). Members can receive as much > information about the others as they present about their own work. > Spiders handle the information exchange in the net and try to connect > people of similar interests. " > (I don't know how this would have been possible, I did not know about > mailing lists at the time) > > When Keith discovered the LOOP delay and called me to Gibson, Kim did > his first job as EE there and learned about looping when one of the > units hit his lab desk to improve it! So we worked together on the EDP > long before we worked on the promotion. And when the web became > spread, he knew how to setup a site and a mailing list and did it his > way... > > Thats why I still feel a fatherly responsibility to support this > movement until it grows by itself and the information about the deeper > use of looping tools becomes spread. > We are not there yet as I want to discuss below. > > Some hours ago, I was going to answer a mail from Rick about the > festivals and once again thought about what has come out of this and > where we are heading for. I thought about it almost every day since > 1986, and since february, I am writing on the livelooping theory, and > collect videos on youtube and discuss strategies with the most > involved looping friends. > So Marks post makes me say something about it all to all. > > This paragraph is about the personal situation, you can skip it: > I am a true friend of the Walker brothers and I also had a good time > with Mark when we have been neighbours for some fantastic coincidence, > when I lived in Gary Halls house on Alameda island. (Gary is one of > the fathers of livelooping, now retired in Tailand) > Mark and me did not maintain contact, so we may not be friends in the > closers sense - thats live as he said correctly. He is an intense > poster with strong opinions, honest but sometimes hard... > I would love Bill and Rick even if I thought of their festival as > useless or whatnot. its love, I find them of the most good willed and > tender and talented persons I ever met! > > To question the festivals and the group purpose here: > Why do we do all this? > There is a big deep question why we like to play music and why looping > is even more fun, we discussed this over years and I am trying to > write an abstract about it, just wait, I will want to discuss that, > too, but now its about playing live: > > Most of us don't want to make a living or become famous, but have fun > and grow with their music and get a feedback from some listeners > sometimes. Some enjoy the exchange of this music and fascination so > much that they buy over sees tickets to get to the meetings - thats an > amazing power! It helps to make the festivals days of big expectations > and joy and the festivals I attended were completely dominated by > love, tenderness and spirituality. > So there is not the slightest doubt that the festivals are useful and > should go on and we can only be very thankful to Rick and all the > other organizers for their huge effort to make it happen. > > Still, some of us also want to make it a living. For them it would be > great if the public would come to the festivals and the producers of > events and movies and such would call them up and say: "we decided > that some livelooping music fits our production best, can you do it?" > And those producers would like to just write "livelooping" on their > banner and get the house full of livelooping fans. > So how and when can we get there? > > Anyone is free to say on this list that they don't like to travel or > play live or exchange their music and only want to exchange tech infos > or have fun... but it may not be very useful... > ... or don't you agree that this list should mainly serve for those > who do want to play in public and spread their music? > ... or should we create a separate list for the professionals? > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 15:28:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D2F83BE79; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:28:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VTTRs8oyGC5wwOJ3kGyfl2RxawH2nSP5O6dcpPssnG4=; b=UsoTVb19Xjd7FOnzOpnTi5OjkszJZubPI+fjDPWR7FoHPv23JJQYG1eX9fZTEp02a7 tWG0XvWap44opzi45xYv22+ZctI++biI8fy6/O85d5ylHIQE8i02axrNL7OHNoqWCdp9 Od+Dox265vL6/OlwZ1F9QmXIpRD/t3Tafnd18= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LXTz29fAjzilLTO5ZWKIsMm9flPbkRo76weuU6RgdF1u5PA63bfM8rqs61oZxZmMVO pntoPkIji7Xtg7CsAA2HiLinJzrtBp60wHX5Bxo0UqGNB81qnFdV5Kk4PPjNqqc+EfYL QylW5RNTSNSAkJuLvNf8DdS/a24YTHZOmWBcw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:28:39 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907190828m6288f452ka4d55b3454a6324b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: why we founded this list From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:28:41 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > Anyone is free to say on this list that they don't like to travel or play > live or exchange their music and only want to exchange tech infos or have > fun... but it may not be very useful... > ... or don't you agree that this list should mainly serve for those who do > want to play in public and spread their music? > ... or should we create a separate list for the professionals I think one list is fine. That is because I believe that most players that do not pursue the ambition of being able to make a living from playing livelooping music do still want to discuss the same topics as those who might seriously look into the commercial depths. I really love the openness and astronomical headroom of this list. Thank you, Matthias, for the heads up on the historical records. That was great to get! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 15:36:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B5953BE77; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ugqBtRlLxFdzwAZf50Q3MpSuqBa1ZhegKhyocjfDoGGEy/8jn9ait654Ec1P18Bdnb8X/v4NfF613xEl3ixDMqGBrIQabG8Xa+6JHjscqlbB7R6i1IOUf1OwIS8Xsf3zx/xciLudzF7UNcFe81xFG+mgQq4n5Vzh27B4Bs9E9JM= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: dWOQ4IYVM1mMAV.mTM3sLz0zPptq2KnxuH7Kf0UCmPx9AakyiRQoGAT_6zQqkNFmL95DkI3OrcT6GSAsgRWIiy2XQW9iyyC1EwRlp_UVDWsCwSDNaEsX2pduhvQWGqrsnrVJMAYpGbd0pkX1SA.arV0nhoiNEa7kWOkA1WS4mJXOTc3g6IyokBPdjImyXlP6cO3NuE1mWpfBSE6WYJlD3Inv96gcaMT7UxZP4umlDyth_eDRuomzE6cugjxK0Ss2jD_ZXkeR9.4iDmh.JF0T7dY9dUpz0Xo.rJ1xZ_13a7T9QXuTR6LYwKISQ92LLJmiEq74Ji_hY3W693RT7pyLRzq.24jbp9DiQwc- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <9283170026CD47ADB2EC1B86AD269537@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <66f9cc1e0907190828m6288f452ka4d55b3454a6324b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: why we founded this list Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:36:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:36:16 +0000 (UTC) I agree with Per. One list is best. One thing I admire about this list is that everyone is very much on the same level, regardless if they are seeking to make a living from live looping music. And I think everyone being on the same list sustains that quality. It's about the only forum for musical discussion that I find to be honest and wholesome. Long may it continue. Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: Re: why we founded this list > On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: >> Anyone is free to say on this list that they don't like to travel or play >> live or exchange their music and only want to exchange tech infos or have >> fun... but it may not be very useful... >> ... or don't you agree that this list should mainly serve for those who >> do >> want to play in public and spread their music? >> ... or should we create a separate list for the professionals > > > I think one list is fine. That is because I believe that most players > that do not pursue the ambition of being able to make a living from > playing livelooping music do still want to discuss the same topics as > those who might seriously look into the commercial depths. > > I really love the openness and astronomical headroom of this list. > Thank you, Matthias, for the heads up on the historical records. That > was great to get! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.19/2247 - Release Date: 07/18/09 21:14:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 15:48:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 519A83BE79; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:36:36 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: why we founded this list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:48:28 +0000 (UTC) At 11:40 AM -0300 7/19/09, Matthias Grob wrote: >This paragraph is about the personal situation, you can skip it: >I am a true friend of the Walker brothers and I also had a good time >with Mark when we have been neighbours for some fantastic >coincidence, when I lived in Gary Halls house on Alameda island. >(Gary is one of the fathers of livelooping, now retired in Tailand) Is that the Gary Hall who worked at Sonic Solutions in the early '90s? -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 15:50:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A29B43BE7C; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:50:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <66f9cc1e0907190828m6288f452ka4d55b3454a6324b@mail.gmail.com> <9283170026CD47ADB2EC1B86AD269537@a> Subject: Re: why we founded this list Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:50:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:50:49 +0000 (UTC) I also agree with Per and Ricky. Fragmenting the list would divide the community and weaken it. Had the list been divided back when I joined in, I would have been on the amateur track. Being part of the amateur track, I may never have formed Looperlative. In any community, there will be disagreements. Just because we are all involved in looping, doesn't mean that we have to all agree on everything. We won't. Personality differences will appear, but the community will survive. The important thing is that despite these little glitches, the content of this list is amazing. So much wonderful information is shared. People continue to assist each other in making the most out of looping. It always makes me feel good when I see a novice getting help from the experts on this list. I now return you to your regularly scheduled program. Bob Amstadt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricky Graham" >I agree with Per. One list is best. One thing I admire about this list is >that everyone is very much on the same level, regardless if they are >seeking to make a living from live looping music. And I think everyone >being on the same list sustains that quality. It's about the only forum for >musical discussion that I find to be honest and wholesome. Long may it >continue. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 16:06:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B39C73BE73; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <2AC8D7DD-D1E7-49F8-AFDA-3AEA7D684AFA@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: why we founded this list Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:06:47 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Matthias, Thanks for restating some of the history of this list and reasserting some of your and Kim's vision for it. I've been on the list continually for almost 13 years now and a certain long-view perspective needs to be voiced from time to time or we devolve into squabbling and bickering over minutia. Your post was refreshing in light of other recent posts. Warmest regards, Ted Killian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 16:08:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55D5A3BE73; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DfcBCTadNAHniBnwC0kkFKH80aMdmVijq/uRPtTLYCI=; b=ZUmqIavRTOivdTvv9uD9zWw2v3RntIL0BJlqxeMHGAbuex/GwkwC5BJpaIA2chKZA6 k37yzru0+EMYUe/mRT28QG7B0DEV+2UZ5y9AQ5jxmA4rwGnvianiWpxsZRgjTLj/VS/q LTsVC0wJHrONYc7XLy1iV2+HvPnIoJbJ4dwBA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tC5UU/wjOn8TDPVAKS5su/Gq63nB4PNINuQEW9Ep5fMsIOwdpdkRcxKBk8IkLh821Y MchAOYY8Z4eyxnbl1YAqqS24rUyJB2P/QONvwFKLr9MnV5HvKjUITpQ5c8IMYsH9QzZf tKVqYmdZUIGsu2EcjyYAyvLkwE8aDMGeFNTyE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907190828m6288f452ka4d55b3454a6324b@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907190828m6288f452ka4d55b3454a6324b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:08:30 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: why we founded this list From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7Wd3CD.A.FBD._T0YKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:08:31 +0000 (UTC) I agree, there's nothing wrong with this list, as it is. I think it could be more successful as a forum, but that's just me. The good thing about a forum is that you can segment it in topics like "Live Performance" or "OT" and just let it go. You need moderators though, IMO. Kim expressed a deep distaste for the forum format and I respect his decision. While he no longer posts here, he pays the bills to keep this running so it's entirely his call. My recent post in response to Rick, was just that. A response. I never had any intention of airing dirty laundry like that on a public list, but I guess that wasn't satisfying enough. I had been happily ignoring his goading me into this, but the "open letter" hit me first thing in the morning and I was at my lack of coffee full on cranky best. I hope you all enjoyed the episode of "LOOP HOUSE." Note to all LD'ers: If you think I have a problem with you and I'm not answering your personal email, do not attempt to get me to explain myself on a public forum. ;) Although an American, I'm not into the protracted "ground war" that seems to be in fashion these days. I'm more old fashion, drop my biggest bomb and move on. Honestly I was more than happy of just ignoring them and going for a live and let live. So I'd like to restate that I never said or felt that performing or festivals were bad. I enjoyed my time at the loop fests, especially the San Luis Opisbo one back in the day. I feel the structure of the Santa Cruz fests isn't for me and I've stated it many times. This is nothing new. But it's not my fest, and like this list, since Rick puts out the effort to make it, it's entirely his call. I don't know why, but expressing my opinion and politely passing on offers to play it wasn't enough. But more than that, my life is a lot different now. I have a much more intense job and it's very satisfying creatively. My work is now published and goes out to hundreds of thousands of people. It's a lot of work but it's very gratifying! I'm very lucky. Between that and spending time with my wife there's not a lot of slack. I keep fewer friends and spend less time with them. They're great close friends though, and I'm sorry if time with them end up crowding out time with internet looping acquaintances at fests. I still love you crazy kids, you know that. Except the ones that I don't. :D :* On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: >> Anyone is free to say on this list that they don't like to travel or play >> live or exchange their music and only want to exchange tech infos or have >> fun... but it may not be very useful... >> ... or don't you agree that this list should mainly serve for those who do >> want to play in public and spread their music? >> ... or should we create a separate list for the professionals > > > I think one list is fine. That is because I believe that most players > that do not pursue the ambition of being able to make a living from > playing livelooping music do still want to discuss the same topics as > those who might seriously look into the commercial depths. > > I really love the openness and astronomical headroom of this list. > Thank you, Matthias, for the heads up on the historical records. That > was great to get! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 16:10:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F102C3BE7E; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nybzznksluNpW/QKo4+B4titeKBa4tklIscfo76KxGA=; b=PTHxah8ONjaeTGqVrb2n725NbQUTkqutdQMH/Oay7jxdAX8F1OfYlGG7Lt3v74FPdA CSUrrwHje1hUntTmNELJNMs39n5/aIRkgS7S3mnXBmgjXcUC8F6xxEFIeGgB2FRrWw2Q 0Q4yQif/J9GG9pDjlk7+PCF6dyiET1WM+jNNk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TQkbadimV20uc3T0oMw+yKwmUkmwavKETBvFIb+Bno3ImhaY5ab5aoQWUEPbivm0J9 mxMwMtAEDpPXqCTIWdVRYgfuiuZc7t7R3NiaNrhDXCoQv6g9DtWjLzEsnbs09vTRdKYZ OIbugWzDv6ak13VBnHT6po256dq33aBX21NIA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:10:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: why we founded this list From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:10:15 +0000 (UTC) I think so. It was crazy that he and I had been exchanging emails for quite some time off list when we found out that he lived right next to me! What are the odds... anyway, he's a great guy. We had some good times on that little island. On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 8:36 AM, David Gans wrote: > At 11:40 AM -0300 7/19/09, Matthias Grob wrote: >> >> This paragraph is about the personal situation, you can skip it: >> I am a true friend of the Walker brothers and I also had a good time wit= h >> Mark when we have been neighbours for some fantastic coincidence, when I >> lived in Gary Halls house on Alameda island. (Gary is one of the fathers= of >> livelooping, now retired in Tailand) > > Is that the Gary Hall who worked at Sonic Solutions in the early '90s? > > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: =A0http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 16:11:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C00FD3BE7F; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 136893 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:11:26 UTC Message-ID: <4A63458F.4060609@biink.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:10:55 -0400 From: David Beardsley Reply-To: db@biink.com Organization: Biink & SSI User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 7/20/2009 Brooklyn looping gig! References: <4A612EDB.5030305@biink.com> <44e368750907172016t115d7c2cqd9840a008b223cd3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <44e368750907172016t115d7c2cqd9840a008b223cd3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-faEnD.A.7KD.uW0YKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:11:26 +0000 (UTC) This is just the first gig, there will be others. This morning, we're discussing uploading last nights rehearsal without percussion. james fowler wrote: > doh! I live about 6 blocks from that joint...unfortunately I have to > leave town for a few days. > > - Jim > > On Friday, July 17, 2009, David Beardsley wrote: > >> The SomewhatMysterious Tuning from Main Street Goes to Brooklyn >> for multiple just intonation guitars, cosmic zither and percussion. >> >> David Beardsley, Joseph Benzola, Alex Carpenter, James Ross >> Monday, July 20, 2009 >> 9:00pm >> Goodbye Blue Monday >> 1087 Broadway >> Brooklyn, NY >> >> http://www.goodbye-blue-monday.com >> >> rehearsal recording: >> it's the track called Monday Night Mystery Tuning Excerpt >> > > > > -- * David Beardsley * http://biink.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 16:30:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BD553BE79; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FpQF7TRfpiaA/PSufOMVGnbBiBmpBn7QT9XYsHk2djU=; b=Yyma3HbRiP0hu1BFbbtshHohrNp0BEhiT4S9O2c3kIhsHIZAMtMoxcjk12LBwJHsVK 0KpzjxnuwMeVReQD0EKl/I2VEB+DxAgl/4j7jRLU6xI6Vl7L4HP2JTZyXn01J8fbhoZO pn9VxyHsIbmG/lz5tVt/+VSOw07f8IqP5KoQA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lbu0gIQ0Qy8QBJXvXDaiHX3YKjNBNCQooCmYHZVBnVIOKSRv87ot2f2vYJJrZU8nCm fZcgZh/dpRdPtLpQRoyhJR2NXdjmoWqJY+4g6HGu5uxp+PpFWY/a3DgJIAmH3jHztXsL 8e1a3+MWBsSuLhu4RGIom4WfwT9TjXZ4/FP6c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:29:56 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907190929u2bd0c5c8xa3e68416ec24b4a2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: why we founded this list From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-eaVFD.A.o0D.Ho0YKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:30:00 +0000 (UTC) I failed to add yes I think one list does the most good. Agreeing with Bob it can encourage the less experienced by sharing the wealth of the more experienced. Again very pos and encouraging post Matthias. J On 7/19/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > I think so. It was crazy that he and I had been exchanging emails for > quite some time off list when we found out that he lived right next to > me! What are the odds... anyway, he's a great guy. We had some good > times on that little island. > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 8:36 AM, David Gans wrote: >> At 11:40 AM -0300 7/19/09, Matthias Grob wrote: >>> >>> This paragraph is about the personal situation, you can skip it: >>> I am a true friend of the Walker brothers and I also had a good time wi= th >>> Mark when we have been neighbours for some fantastic coincidence, when = I >>> lived in Gary Halls house on Alameda island. (Gary is one of the father= s >>> of >>> livelooping, now retired in Tailand) >> >> Is that the Gary Hall who worked at Sonic Solutions in the early '90s? >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com >> Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 >> Blog: =A0http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com >> Web site: http://www.dgans.com >> Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans >> Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans >> >> >> > > --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 17:47:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B4853BE78; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 674 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:47:22 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=hVHrazymGHIBW3myi6oFLtdet1EbGNj3e7TmIZVvFXEDmwYbO4IcPcOqj62Ttd7u; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: <5B17F58F-4E22-4C94-99DA-89C1868DAE92@earthlink.net> From: Paul Sullivan To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--865172348 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: NYC gig spam: Lambic Jones TONIGHT Sunday 7/19 @ Local 269, lower east side NYC Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:36:07 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-ELNK-Trace: 2cf92e4390c98b9b1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7938d3065b85afee91fd8813732153d6f4350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 64.131.145.212 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:47:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--865172348 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI, everyone, hope you can make this special show. Our collaborations with bassist Percy Jones are ongoing, resulting in a new band, Lambic Jones. Lots of looping...c'mon up and say hi! Lambic Jones is Paul Sullivan - guitar and effects, Stephen Moses - drums, trombone, and Percy Jones - fretless bass. This is an early show--7 to 8:30 @ Local 269, 269 Houston St (corner of Suffolk St). 212 228-9874 For more info: www.myspace.com/lambic www.percyjones.net --Apple-Mail-1--865172348 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI, everyone, hope you can make = this special show. Our collaborations with bassist Percy Jones are = ongoing, resulting in a new band, Lambic Jones.  Lots of = looping...c'mon up and say hi!

Lambic Jones is Paul Sullivan - = guitar and effects, Stephen Moses - drums, trombone,  and Percy = Jones - fretless bass.

This is an early show--7 to 8:30 @ Local = 269, 269 Houston St (corner of Suffolk St). 212 = 228-9874

= --Apple-Mail-1--865172348-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 18:14:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 739433BE77; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [76.103.252.64] X-Originating-Email: [tygerman_gb@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Ty Gott" To: "LoppersDelightMailingList" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: why we founded this list (So how and when can we get there?) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:14:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8050.1202 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2009 18:14:52.0506 (UTC) FILETIME=[CFA46BA0:01CA089C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:14:53 +0000 (UTC) I'm new on the list. I must say its been quite exciting. I hope these folks haven't suffered to badly for my enjoyment but its way more interesting then a post on someone else's MIDI timing workaround on a some box I don't own. I have enjoyed reading and reflecting on many of the posts. I get some sense of the past for looping. I've been looping for awhile and I did think I was unique, until I found all the sights on line. I saw Matthias' question ...how and when can we get there? Asking how we raise the prominence and profitability of live looping. I'd like to take a stab at that one. Hopefully no one will lose an eye. First just what is live looping. It would seem that it defines the gear we use and that we use it live like an instrument. I don't think of the group as a marketing arm of an instrument and software companies. But using looping gear or a delay is a requirement for live looping. So we all have that in common. Next, I'm going to break down live loopers on a continuum. One one side is a looper that performs a complete impersonation of a top 40 band on the other is an improvisational ambient sound looper. Lets use two dimensions to define the continuum. First dimension is pre and post looping. Our top 40 guy is all pre loop, using the looping to record parts and play them back as recorded. Our ambient guy is all post loop, creating drones and manipulating them as they loop back. The second dimension to it is the use of meter and key. Top 40 guy does everything in meter and key while ambient guy uses neither. The point I'm coming to is: If you want prominence and profitability the quickest easiest way is to move your performance toward the top 40 guy on the scale. The closer you come the more gigs will be available and a single performer can compete with full bands, undercutting their rates as he's only one guy. It's not necessarily top 40. It could be blues, jazz what ever just an existing genre so you can go out and compete with bands for existing gigs. Not my personal objective but I do try to be somewhere in the center on this continuum overall. I must also point out that I have listened to many of the ambient loopers and they sound at least as prepared as anyone else. Takes a lot of work to get those rigs ready and a lot of practice to use them. I get the impression that its not live looping that Matthias is trying to promote its also the ambient side of the continuum. I'd think that there are limits to this as music without meter or key is a hard sell. I do think there are enough loopers close to each other, like here in the Bay Area, to focus on a local venue. Find a suitable bar or coffee shop and setup a looping jam once a month or once a week. You take a slow night and make sure at least one guy shows up every session. You could help host loopers from out of town for the sessions. The group can collectively focus on promoting the fixed gig. I also feel that the technology the group is using could be upgraded. The mailing list isn't as handy as a forum and it would be nice have a more searchable database of loopers. Sadly, my next observation is that music is a kids game. To really take off it has to be the kids that take to looping. From what I can tell, this group is as seasoned as I am. We could be the Sensei to a new looping generation. Loop on the one grasshopper ... if you have a one ... Cheers, -Ty From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 18:23:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBBDE3BE77; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=a0xu3lrlwWEGMteH4kNLOAZVwtayFgsqwo9n/F0cDEg=; b=IRBXQrAkYbNdCvpwfGrwa8yWQNUaef6o/MZB3peR/Ch4xX+q4TfwfUZmV4OXMHUl0U qJRJUz0q4azITeX7NtF9JR+LVWjCk/Cb2au+p2pAagyLkoLkJoXZ6d1DgUfFLPy7LPbg dNE40eYdBF6Ro3PPXMxvTdn9nDzea1nnM6Szw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=PkA3pLdKSUPXFM/aukkDC5BcxJg8RXBDTChJdJ8YK13vE9wKTJIFmzw/0NGZ2olPCz jJFmHQVYtgrH+W8wedSMn4G7ocPuEo4lMQR+5ZkVzrotZsutVua95GY7Mh7nscZPfD/y lGuc5N7ud6X5Sjo2hmy/6tYACSQo1LRzlUh4U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:23:35 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907191123k372a03a0xf2ec2db4b06a7cd1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: why we founded this list (So how and when can we get there?) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:23:37 +0000 (UTC) > The mailing list isn't as handy as a forum and it would be nice have a more searchable database of loopers. While there isn't a searchable database of loopers, there is a searchable database of the mailing list posts (on www.loopers-delight.com). And by searching through them, you'd be able to find out why this is a mailing list and not a forum, and that there is in fact a forum for those who prefer one. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 18:32:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EE9D3BE79; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 229294090/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.235.71/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.235.71 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvIBAAcDY0pPTutH/2dsb2JhbAAIyxqEDAWJZw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,230,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="229294090" Message-ID: <4A636A30.3080301@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:47:12 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: why we founded this list References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Matthias Grob wrote: > ... or don't you agree that this list should mainly serve for those who > do want to play in public and spread their music? > ... or should we create a separate list for the professionals? > What is the Looper's Delight mailing list? Here's the original description of the purpose of this list:- http://www.loopers-delight.com/list/LoopList.html I guess that's mainly scripted by Kim. To discuss all topics related to "looping", is the stated intent, meaning all types of music that uses loops. Yep, that includes looping up samples in a studio, in fact from that introductory text you can get the impression that that's what the list is primarily about. To some extent, in the previous century, the list was significantly "all about the EDP", essentially the source of tech support for that device, and the place for customer feedback. So that's two other angles to add to the one provided by Matthias. I don't think it matters so much, the list is a reality, main topic is "loop music that doesn't use pre-recorded material", and the contributors are all musicians who make music which involves some kind of looping device at least some of the time. As a member of what we might call "the live looping community that arose with the aid of LD" I'm at a loss to to understand the desire to change the list to something else. It works. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 19:25:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 362623BE80; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:25:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A637323.5010000@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:25:23 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Chinapainting live Ustream - now! References: <9e0440a60907181630u71cb9544q4972c9ddf80f1d54@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60907181630u71cb9544q4972c9ddf80f1d54@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:25:27 +0000 (UTC) I'm here in New York w/Jim - Utreaming in 10 mins, my first! http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 19:49:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A61443BE7E; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 536 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:49:26 UTC Message-ID: <2D7C9756FF874D8CAF66667716DC106D@SherriPC> Reply-To: "Adrian" From: "Adrian" To: References: <9e0440a60907132010xcecab0du71035812690a770e@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60907132051u66d4b251x9da38022bca428b9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: OT: Macbook Pro weird internal speaker fix Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:39:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Spam-Score: 1.511 (RCVD_IN_PBL,RDNS_NONE,STOX_REPLY_TYPE,URIBL_RHS_DOB) Resent-Message-ID: <83gg8C.A.fdC.Gj3YKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:49:26 +0000 (UTC) This problem is certainly true. Had it myself. It has only happen a cpl times since then. Sticking a headphone jack in momentarily fixes it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" To: Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:00 PM Subject: Re: OT: Macbook Pro weird internal speaker fix I don't know if I'd call Macs any more delicate than your average off the self "let's build it with what ever components are the cheapest this week" PC. I had Macs at a job for 8 years and it was a running joke with the IT guys that I had gone the longest in the company without needing them for anything. Everyone else was on a Dell. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > that's wild though it makes real sense and in one way continues to suggest > though i'm a Mac fan that they are 'delicate' to a degree. I figured > someone had ran into this... thx Mark > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Mark Sottilaro > wrote: >> >> I've come across this type of behavior in a few devices, my iPhone >> included. Lint and general debris can muck up the little switch and >> it can't tell if something is plugged into it or not. Happens with my >> Toshiba laptop sometimes too. >> >> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Jim Goodin >> wrote: >> > I don't know if any of you using a MBP have run into this but recently >> > my >> > internal speaker ability disappeared including the driver ref in Sys >> > Pref's >> > and the audio out 1/8" port glowed red. I found this wild fix on the >> > net >> > and it worked which suggests it's a sensor tripped out by inserting >> > headphones or some other 1/8" analog audio source no? Thought it worth >> > passing along... Jim >> > Today, utterly randomly and with no provocation, the built-in speaker >> > output >> > disappeared from my System Preferences on my MacBook Pro and the >> > speakers >> > would no longer work, except for the boot-up chime. All that I could >> > get >> > was >> > digital audio out and the red light coming out of the speaker port. >> > Searching online turned up nothing until the right combination of words >> > led >> > me to this Apple support message board thread. While Apple does not >> > have >> > a >> > solution for this problem and tries replacing the board with the audio >> > port, >> > you can solve the problem by sticking a toothpick or a paperclip into >> > the >> > slot (preferably while the red digital audio light is on) and at around >> > the >> > 5-o-clock position there is some sort of switch or rocker that needs to >> > be >> > gently pushed. There will be a bit of a click. After a few seconds your >> > audio will start working again. >> > >> > -- >> > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... >> > >> > music links... >> > www.jimgoodinmusic.com >> > www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >> > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic >> > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro >> > www.myspace.com/jindream >> > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic >> > >> > video work/editing... >> > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital >> > >> > social networking... >> > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 19:50:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 826E63BE7C; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:50:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 232638198/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.235.71/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.235.71 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvIBAAMWY0pPTutH/2dsb2JhbAAIyniEDAWJZw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,230,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="232638198" Message-ID: <4A637C93.1030209@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:05:39 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: why we founded this list (So how and when can we get there?) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:50:47 +0000 (UTC) Ty Gott wrote: > I'm new on the list. welcome Ty > > First just what is live looping. It would seem that it defines the gear > we use and that we use it live like an instrument. ahhh, > I get the impression that its not live looping that Matthias is trying > to promote its also the ambient side of the continuum. Matthias was a pioneer in using rhythm with live looping. If you care to check out some of the music made by list members you'll find that your description of the "continuum" > I also feel that the technology the group is using could be upgraded. > The mailing list isn't as handy as a forum well, you'd be also welcome at http://loopingmusic.proboards.com/index.cgi? Every few months someone suggests LD should be a forum, so it might surprise you that the overwhelming opinion on the list is "leave it alone...it works". Maybe it's something to do with the all or nothing nature of mailing list membership. > and it would be nice have a > more searchable database of loopers. http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=view_all ...and use "Find on this page" or equivalent from your browser. > Sadly, my next observation is that music is a kids game. To really take > off it has to be the kids that take to looping. From what I can tell, > this group is as seasoned as I am. > We could be the Sensei to a new > looping generation. Loop on the one grasshopper ... if you have a one ... dunnow, we just seem to be here to learn and share. > > Cheers, > -Ty ...and do you have a link to your own music online? best regards andy butler http://www.andybutler.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 19:57:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A0663BE78; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:57:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=BfOx8kqSpjVN6eO3AoO2pl/OVG+Kd6hsJLl3QVFukpszPGNNAMLG3Axm6uXl3+FCszIEcl7xPRNZZAQTUGRPfK7ixiBOtuvkruRdoDUZv92BZ2niZPpmT6gKWn0u0BEuFZA5jRQr8OcvN/hRoXTyTL7DjSoe7oEkTupz6i+Q96Q= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: OMUbVTgVM1lYaUhxhZIO84lURz2nFziF58V3T3fJJzqzVU5lRbsEfdMwnHbe5UDWg5PD0Gul_zI.5PaxFaYd8sz9HYz0kAoLrpr6avIhGd8eQxTZcV2rNFe1ZUlPU2w9p.Zu9KQA.H1AqsD7EruJ6omCY_pjE1BM8hK2Z3vgzi2_eKHL.PCDK8RoGhcPVvBWtnsfJ2eibDDv6V6SfR9o.vET.tqajm6889WgOwoIea5V3RBGLQldj3bu2w5_A1Rcyq9whGdRgIuxfkZ_PKpKNdKXQ5TO3zXxdmLWeHRZGQ0OLe5TpRlX0XTNb8j6wkecU0NiGjAGEEG1J3qoVAOoBcNKSLkCpoIVIN4- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <4A637C93.1030209@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: why we founded this list (So how and when can we get there?) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:57:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:57:43 +0000 (UTC) Just on the note of the forum, I really would not like for this list to become a forum either. It would become to time consuming to visit a website. There is something wonderful about having peoples thoughts arrive conveniently in your mailbox. Simple text. It's great. Andy wrote: "Maybe it's something to do with the all or nothing nature of mailing list membership." The things that I have learned/discovered through reading some of the subjects that I would otherwise have not taken the time to read on a forum are many. It's a valuable resource. Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:05 PM Subject: Re: why we founded this list (So how and when can we get there?) > > > Ty Gott wrote: >> I'm new on the list. > > welcome Ty > >> >> First just what is live looping. It would seem that it defines the gear >> we use and that we use it live like an instrument. > > ahhh, > >> I get the impression that its not live looping that Matthias is trying >> to promote its also the ambient side of the continuum. > > Matthias was a pioneer in using rhythm with live looping. > > If you care to check out some of the music made by list > members you'll find that your description of the "continuum" > > > >> I also feel that the technology the group is using could be upgraded. >> The mailing list isn't as handy as a forum > > well, you'd be also welcome at > > http://loopingmusic.proboards.com/index.cgi? > > > Every few months someone suggests LD should be a forum, > so it might surprise you that the overwhelming opinion on > the list is "leave it alone...it works". > > Maybe it's something to do with the all or nothing nature > of mailing list membership. > > > >> and it would be nice have a >> more searchable database of loopers. > > http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=view_all > > ...and use "Find on this page" or equivalent from your browser. > >> Sadly, my next observation is that music is a kids game. To really take >> off it has to be the kids that take to looping. From what I can tell, >> this group is as seasoned as I am. >> We could be the Sensei to a new >> looping generation. Loop on the one grasshopper ... if you have a one ... > > dunnow, we just seem to be here to learn and share. > >> >> Cheers, >> -Ty > > ...and do you have a link to your own music online? > > best regards > andy butler > http://www.andybutler.com > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.20/2248 - Release Date: 07/19/09 05:57:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 20:05:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56F353BE78; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LVccZ1F3LdyQ/CYb2Vyuu6wmlugsD09G03oJ/sF0jV0=; b=m7nPUS/SByFAaCv46EQ84pJzip2cELTlDb6IMuYsaSqlT8NH0YohDEkW6uvhfb2FWj /GihzG8L8wKbpzqGF5ZT5vdfpJqy6BwctjQhkyBZOI2HuhFTdZsLOFIu62S9cPje4TDV C4/K34uO57IoCbJb5lNrZ5Ydd1KjucZm8U7so= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=cnh4oEH3d0hEnv01CBDaCsneXR/4hRU0HhCRxt3QJIQyPXXgPwQXHlPKYcRzTmScSU FJgqb1tIZIYnTgvVtEQLvoPC0wnCsCylN8fe5irqu4mC6TF70iDnbyGmMGH6UzrxKdhg vGkOIgK5fPgfkpu5QGwTvIY/sEw4aIJHIBgKQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:05:06 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907191305r287f0f32qc3319e20ab6a1ee6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: and now for something completely different...Jim Goodin and Daryl Shawn aka Chinapainting From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Dear Andy, Ricky, Ty and everyone else, why don't you stop those discussion for one moment and head over to http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 Great live performance by Jim and Daryl. Boy, am I proud that I was more or less the reason they met at the y2k6loopfest kybermusik event... Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 20:09:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D78283BE73; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:09:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=FOLY8afm9+U81eM841yUP0AEXJFEHUyGLtxmhm2NWyY+3+6ZgTewJsgEDe3qFav2BuG0P8o42LBvTb+gZQQoe7ty0cV+dXPE7QbNXBd/pgtS/DmPVtpMsqlucfy8kBBECLAQjz/18ZXKGPHE7+O12chszV6ceBlD6BqUoAFwjnU= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: bNpZUGUVM1msZAmzHKe3ng4sykcRR7JZ8Rd81BKEd.N955ZAHMJ5nVUXkjrLKo2E8K9egz8booq8dZc0IqPnSP3MDGZljfLv.thOfnWPg8cL3_noUjx0Yf43Rhx3iIh5bJCrlb5fSXOOrII1Q2srEiG4x9TYcJe_NhAZV7jfcssuefag4OV9PhA52XtkS0RKzWQU.BMj9xLpLmUKV5Boikni8EmURIglSCOBrrsQ3xAyoE4BHaFCjEdupIq43alGurs29j.9KGQUVHv0MTI2neXgxMhsGxz272BhPAZNHia6T9y1vMlEPPp63CqGELIJqopkWpQjgtOiqjJCMkjVOTebqZ6elGmH8T0- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <57C82424AC35431BA511E643E0570723@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <7334ca1b0907191305r287f0f32qc3319e20ab6a1ee6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: and now for something completely different...Jim Goodin and Daryl Shawn aka Chinapainting Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:09:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:09:37 +0000 (UTC) I'm watching... Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:05 PM Subject: and now for something completely different...Jim Goodin and Daryl Shawn aka Chinapainting > Dear Andy, Ricky, Ty and everyone else, > > why don't you stop those discussion for one moment and head over to > > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 > > Great live performance by Jim and Daryl. > > Boy, am I proud that I was more or less the reason they met at the > y2k6loopfest kybermusik event... > > Rainer > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.20/2248 - Release Date: 07/19/09 05:57:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 20:15:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F0423BE77; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:15:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 228688107/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.235.71/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.235.71 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvIBACsbY0pPTutH/2dsb2JhbAAIynOEDAWJZw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,230,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="228688107" Message-ID: <4A638254.5090503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:30:12 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: and now for something completely different...Jim Goodin and Daryl Shawn aka Chinapainting References: <7334ca1b0907191305r287f0f32qc3319e20ab6a1ee6@mail.gmail.com> <57C82424AC35431BA511E643E0570723@a> In-Reply-To: <57C82424AC35431BA511E643E0570723@a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:15:19 +0000 (UTC) :-) ...and I'm off looping andy Ricky Graham wrote: > I'm watching... > > Ricky > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:05 PM > Subject: and now for something completely different...Jim Goodin and > Daryl Shawn aka Chinapainting > > >> Dear Andy, Ricky, Ty and everyone else, >> >> why don't you stop those discussion for one moment and head over to >> >> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 >> >> Great live performance by Jim and Daryl. >> >> Boy, am I proud that I was more or less the reason they met at the >> y2k6loopfest kybermusik event... >> >> Rainer >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.20/2248 - Release Date: > 07/19/09 05:57:00 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 21:09:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFA173BE77; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:09:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [76.103.252.64] X-Originating-Email: [tygerman_gb@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Ty Gott" To: Subject: Re: why we founded this list (So how and when can we get there?) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:09:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0168_01CA087A.878D7EF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8050.1202 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2009 21:09:37.0804 (UTC) FILETIME=[395DECC0:01CA08B5] Resent-Message-ID: <9FOxBB.A.VTF.Su4YKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:09:38 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0168_01CA087A.878D7EF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool to see I fired up the discussion. My stuff is up at = www.soundclick.com\TygermanGrooveBand.=20 I didn't mean to imply that anyone on the list was actually at either = extreme of the continuum. I guess more simply: if you want gigs you can = take them. That a one man band can be much cheaper to the venue and more = profitable to artist. Giving you an advantage over a band. I do believe = that this advantage will make looping main stream. I found the profiles and achieves. Just wanted to be able to have better = searches on the members and messages. With all these new folks posting = (with their URLs) I've been enjoying more looping music. I can tell I = have a lot to learn from you guys.=20 Cheers, -Ty www.soundclick.com\TygermanGrooveBand ------=_NextPart_000_0168_01CA087A.878D7EF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Cool to see I fired up the discussion. My = stuff is up at=20 www.soundclick.com\= TygermanGrooveBand.=20
I didn't mean to imply that anyone on the list = was=20 actually at either extreme of the continuum. I guess more simply: = if you=20 want gigs you can take them. That a one man band can be = much=20 cheaper to the venue and more profitable to artist. Giving you an = advantage over=20 a band. I do believe that this advantage will make looping main=20 stream.
I found the profiles and achieves. Just wanted = to be=20 able to have better searches on the members and messages. With all = these=20 new folks posting (with their URLs) I've been enjoying more looping = music. I can=20 tell I have a lot to learn from you guys.
 
Cheers,
-Ty
 www.soundclick.com\TygermanGrooveBand
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0168_01CA087A.878D7EF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 22:00:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED31E3BE79; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date :x-mailer; bh=HwzinA+IMwfejnM0dDdpSRn0n/Kf6h6IhMXnqZx5iNo=; b=PiCyZvC7M1cdDTNuzpQ8hHh8TD0dTZmfSj0+5a6VPwdgZktt8+vYtxBr7EUFOZX2sK AzPNjpS1T2InmAcupIKKc65hdGwdfwVxOJqztynInIyTCyTE/thw82vgAr/XF9zM7oOk C70QzzYv50Y33jgTSkizQjaNaPxQDDZqwW0hk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=roq0uJFldtrI5CLwXeEjoLJPjBtjvS8fwtFZmDE9F8J9g2qLg/6NPjzKIESywuOO5Y 0cxLQJ3lpn1gZSEJL/xHjTF9yOFJkJnvD2ZiCfR34FekwBJLY51DUlp2iD8TQf9YOaCq weq/zyBqDoSUVxDqpasI5S1Ss/uIiBIKq6uI0= Message-Id: <4C550AD4-0FA1-4999-8F99-5D94CA49A1D0@gmail.com> From: Matthias Grob To: Loop List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: how is the livelooping style Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:59:46 -0300 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Ty started the subject once again. I am amazed that no one said "oh no, not the style-or-instrument-question again!" I agree that this list is good as is and should not be split. but the amateurs will have to at least tolerate the nasty talk about business strategies. Its not possible to sell music without choosing a genre, and if ours is not in the lists, it might be worth doing something about it.: >> First just what is live looping. It would seem that it defines the >> gear we use and that we use it live like an instrument. > and Andy: > ahhh, yes, this defines the livelooping technique. it can be used for many different purposes, but one typical seems to grow out of the tool, so the ones who play the tool extensively eventually get somewhere close to what we might end up calling the livelooping style: it has to do with the steady repetition. a kind of trance which leads to a kind of source... just as Blues can be very slow and sad or quick and happy, Livelooping can be near dead drones or overwhelming complex patterns or driving funk, but most is in the rather relaxed and flowing range, we hardly change keys and throw complex fill ins, but we may end completely different from where we started, and although we sometimes reach similar trance effects and structures as the electronic music, we usually use organic instruments and play them with human feel... ...and a lot more characteristics we may gather. ...and for each one there will be some member saying: "no, I hate that, my music is not such!" ok, so you prefer to not define it. I agree. we define the technique by the tool and then just feel the major wave coming out of it and each one decides whether he wants to swim along and call his stuff LiveLooping, instead of Pop or World or Electronic or whatever drawer (which usually does not quite fit either) ...and once there is a list of livelooping music, the academics and journalist will analyze the new phenomenon and define it anyway... its happening already, I saw several academic works and Frederike is writing a dissertation about it all... >> I get the impression that its not live looping that Matthias is >> trying to promote its also the ambient side of the continuum. > > Matthias was a pioneer in using rhythm with live looping. ... otherwise I would not have built the machine! for drones, the PCM42 was just perfect and sync is not desired. but I wanted it to groove... my move to Brazil was important... but my first rhythmic loop happened before the move... ... and there are many on this list who do patterns or rhythms. > > If you care to check out some of the music made by list > members you'll find that your description of the "continuum" ... yes, Andy? you are one of the early if not the first adopter of the livelooping genre... what do you think? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 22:00:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7AE013BE81; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=ZaSnYEzDxN2Kxv+0yyl+ljbf4hq4SD5td4wyqeZAnDI=; b=GXqD8oN3Fmjhn1Eo3N1TVly7syugP/63XjT7GCdYLWgyAq9fZq4QyOqXt2qnk4SCyx MTnfpuZbgeURQBFkDAh3CIM0aF+tqJvXleiumGHxhin4P57o/emY9QvX/wx7+n67Kenc BN9F2q9uwClSeiIUtYntjaqLqG9YVRsSTHKw8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=brBUG50fxPWK5Hl8RxNqUFwSEZm5xzKXYAOgWn6MrRKfeRx0HSq790GCkHRBkQNOjQ l9sRhq39DJHNs28GiwMrSoPas0L5wwljtAW3L1dNGJS19FpHoWy93Y0Qw5bwtQlfFBuB dgc5yx7YwKaHUOuokqpyFi3onQV/VWthykecw= Message-Id: <927FDE08-FD0E-4441-9650-41BFE67C5AC7@gmail.com> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A637C93.1030209@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-67--849298525 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: why we founded this list (So how and when can we get there?) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:00:40 -0300 References: <4A637C93.1030209@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:00:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-67--849298525 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 19 Jul 2009, at 17:05, andy butler wrote: > > > Ty Gott wrote: >> I'm new on the list. > > welcome Ty yes, very welcome, I loved your post, Ty I take the first part to a new thread > > >> I also feel that the technology the group is using could be >> upgraded. The mailing list isn't as handy as a forum > > well, you'd be also welcome at > > http://loopingmusic.proboards.com/index.cgi? > > > Every few months someone suggests LD should be a forum, > so it might surprise you that the overwhelming opinion on > the list is "leave it alone...it works". yes, Mark made us discuss it once more... next time some one suggest a forum, we just ignore, right? > > Maybe it's something to do with the all or nothing nature > of mailing list membership. yes, thats interesting. I feel like a member even if I am not reading. the mails keep coming. sometimes I overlook the subjects and Bills mails for some reason are not filtered so I end up reading them :-) > > >> and it would be nice have a more searchable database of loopers. > > http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=view_all > > ...and use "Find on this page" or equivalent from your browser. I would like to do this better, on livelooping.org and care to only list artist who consider their music livelooping > >> Sadly, my next observation is that music is a kids game. To really >> take off it has to be the kids that take to looping. From what I >> can tell, this group is as seasoned as I am. >> We could be the Sensei to a new looping generation. Loop on the one >> grasshopper ... if you have a one ... > > dunnow, we just seem to be here to learn and share. I think those young guys who still have the patience to learn to play an instrument will want to try looping. schools and teachers could help to this. if they see the old guys doing it well, thats enough :-) --Apple-Mail-67--849298525 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 19 Jul 2009, = at 17:05, andy butler wrote:



Ty Gott wrote:
I'm= new on the list.

welcome = Ty

yes, very welcome, I = loved your post, Ty
I take the first part to a new = thread


I also = feel that the technology the group is using could be upgraded. The = mailing list isn't as handy as a forum

well, you'd = be also welcome at

http://loopingmusic.= proboards.com/index.cgi?


Every few months someone = suggests LD should be a forum,
so it might surprise you that the = overwhelming opinion on
the list is "leave it alone...it = works".

yes, Mark made us discuss = it once more... next time some one suggest a forum, we just ignore, = right?

Maybe it's something to do = with the all or nothing nature
of mailing list membership. =

yes, thats interesting. I feel = like a member even if I am not reading. the mails keep coming. sometimes = I overlook the subjects and Bills mails for some reason are not filtered = so I end up reading them :-)


and it would be = nice have a more searchable database of loopers.

http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_all=

...and use "Find on this page" or equivalent from your = browser.

I would like to do this = better, on livelooping.org and care to only list artist who consider = their music livelooping 

Sadly, my next = observation is that music is a kids game. To really take off it has to = be the kids that take to looping. =46rom what I can tell, this group is = as seasoned as I am.
We could = be the Sensei to a new looping generation. Loop on the one grasshopper = ... if you have a one ...

dunnow, we just seem to be = here to learn and share.

I think = those young guys who still have the patience to learn to play an = instrument will want to try looping. schools and teachers could help to = this. if they see the old guys doing it well, thats enough = :-)
= --Apple-Mail-67--849298525-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 22:14:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B9273BE7C; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:14:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=RYScrczsnCeulXFlxCLeC6VRXrQdsKRJcsmEZrqunXY=; b=GJIa4ZSBR0sOX+aRozONNbo7Ijz1k7S+K+7IbfYaXPGry48UTpXj3NFNNX7YNuo2Q1 VS874tB4nIUFLVworPY+LhyEY3MlYN7UmboA2/UybAuHV23Abvv8FlA8ABpQ9+dgYiZu c55KP1kJKoplO4C3D4UAJ9UqJ/XnjEZ2GYUyw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=ZudSu+OTP0tclsvvwSD5xHV1kzTKDW10a9eEKNVv9SCnX/JfDqMOy6CpQsePmfNej2 1Y3uRU7QZ5hdvOxlCkyM6Kv5lySBLN45v3C+aAnq3ddaW/v7jFY9kMVbXC0Ty0Sh2Iob Zx/gMBI3gAdy1KvXvYaQe7957TO2HqA8X/aHA= Message-Id: <5379F1D3-3EF1-4391-8B05-FD3D756ED954@gmail.com> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Gary Hall (was: why we founded this list) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:05:17 -0300 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:14:10 +0000 (UTC) On 19 Jul 2009, at 13:10, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > I think so. It was crazy that he and I had been exchanging emails for > quite some time off list when we found out that he lived right next to > me! What are the odds... anyway, he's a great guy. We had some good > times on that little island. in my memory it was even more crazy: you found out because I was with Gary and we stepped out of house simultaneously to go to Loopstock! ... but then how did we find out on the side walk that we were going to the same event? how do you know there is no magic? > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 8:36 AM, David Gans wrote: >> At 11:40 AM -0300 7/19/09, Matthias Grob wrote: >>> >>> This paragraph is about the personal situation, you can skip it: >>> I am a true friend of the Walker brothers and I also had a good >>> time with >>> Mark when we have been neighbours for some fantastic coincidence, >>> when I >>> lived in Gary Halls house on Alameda island. (Gary is one of the >>> fathers of >>> livelooping, now retired in Tailand) >> >> Is that the Gary Hall who worked at Sonic Solutions in the early >> '90s? >> yes! before he worked at Lexicon and created the PCM42 which turned into a studio standard, and he kept modifying it for the live loopers during the 80ies. A very helpful and wise guy! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 22:23:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B6963BE78; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:23:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1016 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:23:13 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=9Ldh2PTQP/RW8cwfk9UB72voNcleLZI45IrBctrtatc=; b=bKoqgn6CY0ywVPYmoEsw/+faaVYWHoZlWT1rj1gFniHcDX624Zcrnuc4r0JEkjzbGF oigLVmXBOvZUPYXSnacpCyBMp+nzqRbu258vnw/5XEt3OJsD06IsPT4QsPLfLIGdi50K h9um8qPRBwfAjPQzmdPBGvhzOIurDYT4N0zUg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=JYEJ8li1Y3ooRZSpeTERPF6/bmVLroBYS4EFiqVRKsMq2CE/xgndMhq6oLJwjm+SB3 i+G/60Nha862u+VVTNGvmlYlR/el/PcKBqmlE0TbuAdHh2ZsUpy20hNBQE1xTkO0Alyq x1CVBILJ3XUOaqZDUfd2GP0z8pKr08sD1Dw4c= Message-Id: From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A636A30.3080301@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: why we founded this list Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:22:48 -0300 References: <4A636A30.3080301@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:23:13 +0000 (UTC) you are right, Andy, I may never have read that. Kim was great because he brought things down to earth. Not only did I not know how to technically deal with the internet (not so easy in 1996), but the list would not have grown so quickly if I had set it up my airy way. He liked Hip-Hop and it seemed that those guys could become loopers, too. Meanwhile, we might have adapted the text to the reality. Or just leave as is because it works :-) On 19 Jul 2009, at 15:47, andy butler wrote: > Matthias Grob wrote: > >> ... or don't you agree that this list should mainly serve for those >> who do want to play in public and spread their music? >> ... or should we create a separate list for the professionals? > > What is the Looper's Delight mailing list? > > > Here's the original description of the purpose of this list:- > > http://www.loopers-delight.com/list/LoopList.html > > I guess that's mainly scripted by Kim. > > To discuss all topics related to "looping", is the stated > intent, meaning all types of music that uses loops. > > Yep, that includes looping up samples in a studio, in fact from that > introductory text you can get the impression that > that's what the list is primarily about. > > > To some extent, in the previous century, the list was significantly > "all about the EDP", essentially the source of tech support > for that device, and the place for customer feedback. > > > So that's two other angles to add to the one provided by Matthias. > > > I don't think it matters so much, > the list is a reality, > main topic is "loop music that doesn't use pre-recorded material", > and the contributors are all musicians who make music > which involves some kind of looping device at least > some of the time. > > > As a member of what we might call "the live looping community that > arose with the aid of LD" I'm at a loss to to understand > the desire to change the list to something else. > > It works. > > andy butler > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 19 22:37:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA6AD3BE77; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DwH8ICo5eOJ8gJd8x+zjgW/Iy+izxGCCRovtTa1Izms=; b=nIr0J3o4fyDII/cUgmEN2pv3eJBz34B8wicXhPL8Kq8GfGkoruBvSL10dEcq3XVAk5 mS+THc1N5I5sd+SKyrC84F9D181k8rQfWDRh/h35P+QedVYwAOANSx2EpuNRhFM5zoyw oNMrqwbt44qYXBxYae5UqEfiyV0qgFehQmgds= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TjGa8bQa8bHfivYMhUKeMUQoBiqEg6bEqnYKqcZn/x19JLymUzDS+Nkp+LUk8fZzuN xYctnFcLqxuIzd9PGn0szkOQJzc5E7Gmnluab9kIO57rZE+lrkDi6U61qN2VZ/aMvfL5 KSfRVWpyhMkEsJXQ32l8fqRA8gZI2rXew3plQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907191305r287f0f32qc3319e20ab6a1ee6@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907191305r287f0f32qc3319e20ab6a1ee6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:37:39 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907191537n7a8a010bv6604eab84a74cc0f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: and now for something completely different...Jim Goodin and Daryl Shawn aka Chinapainting From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a57b3a23cc046f16ab85 Resent-Message-ID: <1auyjD.A.60.0A6YKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:37:40 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a57b3a23cc046f16ab85 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rainer thanks so much, that's awfully nice words and yes it was 'more or less' the glue that sent us on the path of Chinapainting. We actually met when I responded to Daryl's article on analog tape work and his life in MX off of the article on LD.com. It was from a few e-conversations then that he told me about the upcoming Kyber and I got to be part of this whole NinJam technology in an amazing and eye-opening way back then so yes you should be proud. Thanks to you and everyone else who joined our cast today which was just great fun. By the time we got everything plugged in though as mentioned in the chat response we were out of inputs and hand no mic but in a way maybe that was better as I talk too much on these things. Off in a few minutes for our last show this trip that began last weekend in Cleveland, this one in Manhattan on the lower east side, ABC NoRio this evening at 8. Best folks Jim On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Dear Andy, Ricky, Ty and everyone else, > > why don't you stop those discussion for one moment and head over to > > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 > > Great live performance by Jim and Daryl. > > Boy, am I proud that I was more or less the reason they met at the > y2k6loopfest kybermusik event... > > Rainer > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a57b3a23cc046f16ab85 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rainer thanks so much, that's awfully nice words and yes it was 'mo= re or less' the glue that sent us on the path of Chinapainting. =A0We a= ctually met when I responded to Daryl's article on analog tape work and= his life in MX off of the article on LD.com. =A0It was from a few e-conver= sations then that he told me about the upcoming Kyber and I got to be part = of this whole NinJam technology in an amazing and eye-opening way back then= so yes you should be proud.

Thanks to you and everyone else who joined our cast today wh= ich was just great fun. =A0By the time we got everything plugged in though = as mentioned in the chat response we were out of inputs and hand no mic but= in a way maybe that was better as I talk too much on these things.

Off in a few minutes for our last show this trip that b= egan last weekend in Cleveland, this one in Manhattan on the lower east sid= e, ABC NoRio this evening at 8.

Best folks


Jim
On Sun= , Jul 19, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Dear Andy, Ricky, Ty and everyone else,

why don't you stop those discussion for one moment and head over to

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11

Great live performance by Jim and Daryl.

Boy, am I proud that I was more or less the reason they met at the
y2k6loopfest kybermusik event...

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer




--
ReUse, an intros= pective textural aural
www.my= space.com/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 03:18:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2E743BE78; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:18:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WewFcL4MH21bd0apJwHOPG5sV/Fj+DuDAuH1HnUt2Jw=; b=WpN7lsphl1RuNhTNC3btgOpLMMeflF0Jd7u/bVeEN0TGULaLtnVY128Hfo68pDvlmp K+m26NJjxP1Ed3OmCbSj+Eceylbvjedqb2FE1LCM0Le+b1XH/RICdBX29dTH6MhPl9HJ 3M1sNcOxOgAHLdwVGtlcqP/Qp6mkghNl8A+d4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EkB++iaWiTI7yiL3BHb+whtRXr8S8ySJJaw4ROgqGfCnrVKKG9P9UOPGMgavQonepJ KIshxq/H1Tag2FerYH/nAcKYFotGUCmWhKnVgYl3dzLvu62Sq1w2+Q7D/gkiGgjaLUem 3aa7JCBF08APZE2ZFCyWy+llZtmyTo3fpGm8k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907190447u45650742ld28d14fe108f89be@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907190447u45650742ld28d14fe108f89be@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:18:28 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0907192018r1313398bjb0694e14bb77f866@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: 10,000 hours From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:18:29 +0000 (UTC) Yep, no doubt in my mind that Jeff has reached greatest! A great example of a combination of practice and aptitude. On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > This is no doubt true, but then again to get your big symphony with > chorus performed and recorded, you need to have those skills as a > musician as well. The analogy would be correct if we just look at a > piece of software that was developed by a single programmer > single-handedly and for one moment don't look at the marketing, > production, program management etc. process - like with Mobius? ;) > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 03:27:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B08063BE87; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6TtfCtrlgg77naNPeF5RxxtdOJ73M062NEkURB+CGHA=; b=etybf5OUgCUrcdfP0tNyyc8g0lSrC/XjTYykiqW7sbYYuGa0iXYin9RhK/i6e7iE5w Nj7sVoeisnAY+DFMZDvIoHdN+5zjKyfWLqCWN+Ze9rEYgHsYDSjFYbRZoqqNz9WWjBN8 twYylIAfaLDAFucgreoKk9/MD7H2mSGvnbrTI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QvHD9+yO0MI6EOztSAAVyVT6vQOtfNZUy0vd1WYoYhek8yMwqNRSo/iLnhTJSbpbbH HT7enSvjGPeZutJVGJumrmoEjkYVQwdgg8yy13hagtREDQYTOUu70FtPbxSGprOTUHCQ kk20OEcFt77f3DOqGNZYA4gwCblyUVn/6s3M8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0907192018r1313398bjb0694e14bb77f866@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907190447u45650742ld28d14fe108f89be@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0907192018r1313398bjb0694e14bb77f866@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:27:27 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 10,000 hours From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:27:29 +0000 (UTC) i second that. jeff "=E9s de puta mare", how we use to say... 2009/7/20, Art Simon : > Yep, no doubt in my mind that Jeff has reached greatest! A great > example of a combination of practice and aptitude. > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Rainer > Straschill wrote: >> This is no doubt true, but then again to get your big symphony with >> chorus performed and recorded, you need to have those skills as a >> musician as well. The analogy would be correct if we just look at a >> piece of software that was developed by a single programmer >> single-handedly and for one moment don't look at the marketing, >> production, program management etc. process - like with Mobius? ;) >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From jorge@lndq-usa.outservers.net Mon Jul 20 03:58:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from lndq-usa.outservers.net (lndq-usa.outservers.net [66.240.237.197]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ABB93BE6F for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jorge by lndq-usa.outservers.net with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1MSjzb-00088Y-VL for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:56:47 -0300 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received A Hallmark E-Card! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 04:04:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A1913BE7C; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [70.29.19.154] X-Originating-Email: [vaneyck@sympatico.ca] Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:04:08 -0400 From: Trevor Van Eyck User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Echoplex EDP Woes - fluttering, flickering and intermittent power up! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2009 04:04:10.0561 (UTC) FILETIME=[22AF7310:01CA08EF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Hi again, Thanks to the list members for all the help so far! I hate to interrupt the much more interesting conversations for this dull technical bit, but here it goes anyway... I have yet another issue with my new (used) Echoplex EDP: The unit has been powering up intermittently, and now it won't power up at all. The front panel lights flutter and flash intermittently and then the unit goes black. It did this when I first got it, and then I pressed all the socketed IC's down into the board, and this seemed to fix the problem for a short time, and now it's back with a vengeance. Has anyone experienced this before? Is there a fix? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks very much, TREVOR. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 07:46:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 772BD3BE7C; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: From: Andy Schoen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Looping demonstration gone wild! Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:45:25 -0700 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Resent-Message-ID: <8vo8K.A.GQE.IDCZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Hey everyone, I just thought you all might get a kick out of this Pythonesque looping demonstration! I use Guitar Rig's Loop machine for most of my music and I found this; warning, it ends in a shameless self promo! Enjoy! Check out this video on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsZkDmd4Dps To listen to some of my music please visit: www.untitledvisions.com It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 08:44:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 442E23BE79; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TMgUVUesJmo4s5xAAXMkJmllSuLD6e5zjPy4WhH5vQk=; b=tjvdx8XHsFIz+8aNWJcbPKqV6AY5Mx0XE/r580IlK0t0yFaI//DW0aF5JKXdtIzv/4 5E10FNCrU3CQbSyUwIdEWWxA3n8fnQP316x7hf/OGyc380TXBjLZoKn/CO3ZVr+3b3KV Xs7UocN93rvoLgnEELowuQK5/Okzm1LQ2hDm0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=SzaqkGlaM0PoKQ8LdZ3NvLrCzwaKV0oyInwWFD4rRpFfm4bmrqULhg0dTeMB5TCBjA YQT/NlmtSGTcoXYEgpyLQqGBMooAzKAhH59QYQxv9mcA/TPAVlVs+y58KgISKPk4w4OB b7nFAzQDSw5iVDcjs6bd1korSouAXvuJI4HXY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:44:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping demonstration gone wild! From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f45052f36080046f1f2318 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:44:07 +0000 (UTC) --001485f45052f36080046f1f2318 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit superb andy! On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Andy Schoen wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I just thought you all might get a kick out of this Pythonesque looping > demonstration! > > I use Guitar Rig's Loop machine for most of my music and I found this; > warning, it ends in a shameless self promo! > > Enjoy! > > > > > > Check out this video on YouTube: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsZkDmd4Dps > > > To listen to some of my music please visit: www.untitledvisions.com > > It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe! > > --001485f45052f36080046f1f2318 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable superb andy!

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:45= AM, Andy Schoen <larjschoen3@mac.com> wrote:
Hey everyone,

I just thought you all might get a kick out of this Pythonesque looping dem= onstration!

I use Guitar Rig's Loop machine for most of my music and I found this; = warning, it ends in a shameless self promo!

Enjoy!





Check out this video on YouTube:

= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUsZkDmd4Dps


To listen to some of my music please visit: www.untitledvisions.com

It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe!


--001485f45052f36080046f1f2318-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 08:46:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D8D33BE78; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090720084623988.F14091C000A1@mwinf2112.orange.fr Message-Id: From: doc rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A636A30.3080301@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: why we founded this list Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:46:13 +0200 References: <4A636A30.3080301@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:46:25 +0000 (UTC) It works for me, too - I think it's great to have it all in one place. Doc Rossi On Jul 19, 2009, at 8:47 PM, andy butler wrote: > As a member of what we might call "the live looping community that > arose with the aid of LD" I'm at a loss to to understand > the desire to change the list to something else. > > It works. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 08:55:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 027793BE79; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=PklKmN3WTBsq1QSQHf1EjgdwKweiJln6wZV4ygygCn8=; b=fW/MTAm7w4bGT+yZ3MWI/Y/3BmmAPUeDIbHcZ/CTb9U3XjD1Rb10gLJfZTz+GgD/dx PZi42pY70Nmdzt0Kr9d9MKhvCi7C7KEJ5Alw05PcoJiCtbUe/3vw2yNpJ0YxR6Sp2WV2 OX6yMflKiOgmgKo2MzZGgwThMkW9esItiayJU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Qlzwjj9NAS3l5x2ZarztT5hxY+GttSEkl+lJhOD/DjlR2WmOYzoeoT2OWcBcV1zDWn LMretYy1UDw+T53SFNseVMm6lOCEcTmsGKLvmVrDq8O0vOaHVYK/EykpiuWSjcQNFy+x mdULN5MkSEBjVF3eT8a4p11PImaLXLzEn/CLw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:55:25 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e0e3c63dc13444d0 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907200155r16d0a20dpd79dbf4adc5ce24c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Looping demonstration gone wild! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c1deab30f3a046f1f4d8c Resent-Message-ID: <0xqe3.A.-UG.SEDZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:55:46 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c1deab30f3a046f1f4d8c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phew.. phenomenal Andy... have to say as a old an crusty hardware looper, this video ably demonstrates why Ill never become a software looper... assign bass to guitar rig preset, pan left route to looper .. I assure you I would never get all that to work... I got a bit dizzy during this bit and woke up with the cool looping... great video tho.. cant use your music, but you want a video editor job? M On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > superb andy! > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Andy Schoen wrote: > >> Hey everyone, >> >> I just thought you all might get a kick out of this Pythonesque looping >> demonstration! >> >> I use Guitar Rig's Loop machine for most of my music and I found this; >> warning, it ends in a shameless self promo! >> >> Enjoy! >> >> >> >> >> >> Check out this video on YouTube: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsZkDmd4Dps >> >> >> To listen to some of my music please visit: www.untitledvisions.com >> >> It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe! >> >> > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c1deab30f3a046f1f4d8c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Phew.. phenomenal Andy... have to say as a old an crusty hardware looper, t= his video ably demonstrates why Ill never become a software looper... assig= n bass to guitar rig preset, pan left route to looper .. I assure you I wou= ld never get all that to work... I got a bit dizzy during this bit and woke= up with the cool looping...

great video tho.. cant use your music, but you want a video editor job?=

M



On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at= 10:44 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
superb andy!
=


On Mon, Jul= 20, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Andy Schoen <larjschoen3@mac.com> wr= ote:
Hey everyone,

I just thought you all might get a kick out of this Pythonesque looping dem= onstration!

I use Guitar Rig's Loop machine for most of my music and I found this; = warning, it ends in a shameless self promo!

Enjoy!





Check out this video on YouTube:

= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUsZkDmd4Dps


To listen to some of my music please visit: www.untitledvisions.com

It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe!





--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancom= be
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--0015174c1deab30f3a046f1f4d8c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 09:19:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C319D3BE7C; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: Looping demonstration gone wild! Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:19:46 +0200 Message-ID: <004e01ca091b$39c79ab0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcoJGALYO7FI3ZfoTgiLtdNH7WK0rwAAyU0g X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.222; VDF: 7.1.5.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:19:51 +0000 (UTC) > I use Guitar Rig's Loop machine for most of my music and I found this; warning, it ends in a shameless self promo! amazing From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 09:23:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53C943BE70; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1238 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:23:10 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=VvCtYl0g/24NSZrwtkw3SwWSK6C9+kriyAsg6+XybH0=; b=SCkdYVYbw9dGl6IiPPUCcflAZxXZzqQG6qsPTRmKS3grA0ehVNFzjSxDLAgg2okjwn laLzmhGUKa6RjSWwxCTD+HBeYLRlrD9cPkO9Hgqmmje070GccnLUwfeqofgNKMN5M1VM BJepY1FEb/jAtqW2WaIEtTxFqMh2DaGokf0zQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=joR4H0ZqhrKTNt8Agt8DNVBmq/PTgSFo4XVv4Fl8L4eZL5sBku+hCT+89hpUjuiTM5 EXZQe0iDpFdDCrgxljtTjanXUj0Vl+Sir4r9ZeQ3FBJO3UPl1FWb38zK99uRUa3FJG2c VFtkx0KU4QKfD2eixlFKfkEVKFnf9DNjcidHU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:57:08 -0300 Message-ID: <7bf141790907200157k28a94389o7e857584824dde07@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Black Room Session: John Hollenbeck & Theo Bleckmann - In Session From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367ed508ace4ab046f1f528a Resent-Message-ID: <6Cn7cC.A.ZXH._dDZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:23:11 +0000 (UTC) --0016367ed508ace4ab046f1f528a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's been a long time since i wrote to the list but i'm always reading and this one came kinda by accident. I was reasearching on Hollenbeck (my god, what an amazing MUSICIAN) and stumble upon this duo video with Theo (whom i know thanks to another fantastic musician, Ben Monder). Imagine my surprise when i saw that Gibson Echoplex! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GddgdcYmLIQ As always, very best to you all! Kind regards from Argentina, Ariel. --0016367ed508ace4ab046f1f528a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's been a long time since i wrote to the list but i'm alway= s reading and this one came kinda by accident.

I was reasearching on Hollenbeck (my god, wh= at an amazing MUSICIAN) and stumble upon this duo video with Theo (whom i k= now thanks to another fantastic musician, Ben Monder).

Imagine my surprise when i saw that Gibson E= choplex!


As always, very best to you all!

Kind regards from Argentina, Ariel.


--0016367ed508ace4ab046f1f528a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 09:24:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 883993BE79; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1248081874; l=2224; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID: X-RZG-AUTH; bh=4gGgfFeuvkXVI33DUzikZenXGsE=; b=Zr8CV873t9EQ3KXXU42p/phpTTi2m9S0KtMYNFiVCVcVknKvAX34t7d+VHmTL475X4k uh5RWuYJzSZPt+ouk64vGgg8JMaZ6wJCZsTF3bWPy+CT7Md3hllJmnzcuvC9Y62HwhZYd PcsiKAxSnWUfhiSJ/a+4P5JhvJ8+b4vBzGc= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <00fd01ca091c$5e21ad00$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: "Loopers-Delight" Subject: Filomena Moretti Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:05:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DB_01CA092A.04678510" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:24:36 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01CA092A.04678510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone heard of Filomena Moretti? She=B4s an Italina Classical Guitarist, born 1973. Like Segovia. She=B4s good. Now someone wrote to me that he saw her in Paris in a concert where she played one of my Christo Jota - compositions and he = wants to know which one it was. Would like to tell him asking her, but can=B4t find any contact for = Filomena Moretti in the internet. Maybe someone of you guys have a CD with her e-mail contact or = management. Best, Christo www.christojota.de ------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01CA092A.04678510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Has anyone heard of Filomena Moretti? = She=B4s an=20 Italina
Classical Guitarist, born 1973. Like = Segovia. She=B4s=20 good.
Now someone wrote to me that he saw her = in Paris=20 in
a concert where she played one of my = Christo Jota -=20 compositions and he wants to know which one it was.
Would like to tell him asking her, but = can=B4t find=20 any contact for Filomena Moretti in = the=20 internet.
Maybe someone of you guys have a CD = with her e-mail=20 contact or management.
Best,
Christo
www.christojota.de
 
------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01CA092A.04678510-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 09:37:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 570143BE7E; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 402 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:37:32 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8zCI7Xqv7ClFgLQjKc7P4llKvPjQpLzg87AvMSWY+C0=; b=IRWFzB5iyxSHRkAurQSOPI/RfBiOzFk1SmUYYo4XqgnF3ihmid/E0G/AQ7ss+TpSaS V/xMVTF6ghTlMbQxsvqF02Fk33MxGYLP5k7dLrF2+enQ7lNoqQ4dHD+eGahK0eMIQkl/ kOgFBRb0httCEce2JAc0Myhj6miBV72L2gNh8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jnSYUxHiZIlbQNHjiqeVkK59ezsBnQLh68AKN9NvWwjfM1nXnX87V+leuUF44vpQEj IdYlOkcmlicTZap/lkHNRkfU6K1OqG08w5kQ/Mtkw9XLC1FTeeFddT3LDKoGsv5LLzum RejStyfbZBUTpeWCS6TCvWYagwNCZAE7WcHEA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <00fd01ca091c$5e21ad00$0201a8c0@Toshiba> References: <00fd01ca091c$5e21ad00$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:30:49 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Filomena Moretti From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f80f0a201ff5046f1fcbb2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:37:33 +0000 (UTC) --001485f80f0a201ff5046f1fcbb2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not me, sorry. I have never heard about her, but I'll check... fabio 2009/7/20 Christo Jota > Has anyone heard of Filomena Moretti? She=B4s an Italina > Classical Guitarist, born 1973. Like Segovia. She=B4s good. > Now someone wrote to me that he saw her in Paris in > a concert where she played one of my Christo Jota - compositions and he > wants to know which one it was. > Would like to tell him asking her, but can=B4t find any contact for Filom= ena > Moretti in the internet. > Maybe someone of you guys have a CD with her e-mail contact or management= . > Best, > Christo > www.christojota.de > > --001485f80f0a201ff5046f1fcbb2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not me, sorry. I have never=A0heard about her, but I'll check...
=A0
fabio

2009/7/20 Christo Jota <chris@christojota.de>
Has anyone heard of Filomena Moretti? = She=B4s an Italina
Classical Guitarist, born 1973. Like S= egovia. She=B4s good.
Now someone wrote to me that he saw he= r in Paris in
a concert where she played one of my C= hristo Jota - compositions and he wants to know which one it was.
Would like to tell him asking her, but= can=B4t find any contact for Filome= na Moretti in the internet.
Maybe someone of you guys have a CD wi= th her e-mail contact or management.
Best,
Christo
=A0

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Polyplastics Co., Ltd.
JR Shinagawa East Bldg.,
18-1, Konan 2-chome,
Minato-ku,Tokyo 108-8280,
Japan .

Dear Sir/Madam


                    REGIONAL PAYMENT RECEIVING AGENT NEEDED

Polyplastics Co., Ltd. manufactures all kinds of specialized extrusion 
molded products used in various fields including materials for
construction, heat insulation, anti-pollution facilities, water treatment, 
etc.We exports our products to North America,South America,Eastern
Europe,Western Europe and Southeast Asia etc.

We are looking for a payment representative in UK,USA,Canada,and 
Mexico.Salary is 10% of every payment you receive on our behalf. All 
charges such as tax and transfer charges will be deducted from the 
balance 90%. Details of your account is not needed in this transaction.

Note:Even if you have a present job,you can still be part of our business 
as your service to us would not disturb with your working hours at all.

If you are interested in this transaction forward your contact information
to my private.  email: ceo_yasumasa21@yahoo.co.jp

(1)Full names:
(2)Full residential or office address:
a. Street number and name:
b. City:
c. State:
d. Zip code:
e. Country:
(3)Tele/cell numbers:
(4)Occupation:
(5)Sex:
(6)Age:
(7)Email:

Thanks for your understanding and co-operation.
Sincerely

Mr.Yasumasa Kamimura
President
Polyplastics Co., Ltd.
ceo_yasumasa21@yahoo.co.jp
------=_Part_1326_17614127.1248085055076-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 10:33:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AA003BE7E; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NeP85rAS9NiRpEjD3vQd4gLeOAX75+a7v0b0UXI5uaw=; b=lyoisYSeA9egnxWRQtm6vuniEjepDlPlRZLK2eaLPNTOX+2XuaR+rC9H6VpZ5MCYM5 vzo7VVORpSdCG5RAGY0raTpO9+ncq431q8gocbPJMQHwkqIv4foLNfAa963VtiiJUvGO 9X5GAiWIscNgEw+WSCsym0CD1MmsCSnQYdq/U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=hnVEmcTt3WbOFRPsSGCo/qWElB13+nAVN6cICD9zybKawG6DVB1GWHLCbw+sAtOihc 1/kU5J2jn2hJKVq90CSWDE+RMvtahUhXsVH8y3TXSFt/9LvMz1mEJm7+R5UdDUu4lVVK SXf0qZYhkMa/qu6np8MVYLrd6BhEMLLB2+gQQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <004e01ca091b$39c79ab0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <004e01ca091b$39c79ab0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:33:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping demonstration gone wild! From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f7cb5cc9a489046f20aa53 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:33:23 +0000 (UTC) --001485f7cb5cc9a489046f20aa53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the only thing that occurred to me was, would it be possible to use multiple instances of the looper and route different instruments to different loopers? you could then use a little midi control surface (or the footpedal, i guess) to bring different instruments (or groups of instruments) in an out to play with the arrangement. it was fun watching and hearing you build up the layers, but once you'd reached the "end" point with all layers in, i felt a bit like "what's next?" On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > > I use Guitar Rig's Loop machine for most of my music and I found this; > warning, it ends in a shameless self promo! > > amazing > > --001485f7cb5cc9a489046f20aa53 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the only thing that occurred to me was, would it be possible to use multipl= e instances of the looper and route different instruments to different loop= ers? you could then use a little midi control surface (or the footpedal, i = guess) to bring different instruments (or groups of instruments) in an out = to play with the arrangement. it was fun watching and hearing you build up = the layers, but once you'd reached the "end" point with all l= ayers in, i felt a bit like "what's next?"

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Michael Pe= ters <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> I use Guitar Rig's Loop machine for most of my m= usic and I found this;
warning, it ends in a shameless self promo!

amazing


--001485f7cb5cc9a489046f20aa53-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 10:44:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2D9B3BE73; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:44:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090720104416418.6608880000A9@mwinf2e26.orange.fr Message-ID: From: "Jean Philippe" To: Subject: something I'd like to share with you Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:44:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01CA0937.CAF9F2F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:44:17 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CA0937.CAF9F2F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, this is totally off topic, but so uplifting. http://video.ted.com/talks/podcast/BenjaminZander_2008_480.mp4 enjoy . JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CA0937.CAF9F2F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
enjoy .
JPR
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CA0937.CAF9F2F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 10:51:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48BC83BE77; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TbIyYaW7mE3wpkAC02z6JQPovCTvQOhI39iRk0Gq5pI=; b=wkdoYLxFa25tb2sI8NFQy0NiICSTb6852R4YmBru8mkfrR4ZewQvVyKzqd0Bm3BtVF PHWjuwLEHLZG2kex+TMpkeEalBddi14+jjSnoMYHOvYBWTwtPWEi8e8pPVW/IBjjaut2 Wg9WcL/11uD/wqyxUFCm3ovjEUU8heYSVsEgo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UJpxBpYNo71POfuQug9qErQsQT2qhSNf3ktq0U7huQIluYKWDEFNjudIUsDTkHh3OX YhX6mLL8vrrwD1e1bBiLzcRE+cIzBCjUlWKYONpaxlis4WNqDmwsnck7bdEzJoKUYzsM y6NnL7deSPbixhM4STd+vk3yLK2BS7E8TC7f4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:51:49 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping demonstration gone wild! From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f27210d18e3f046f20ec24 Resent-Message-ID: <1txJkC.A.IEC.HxEZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:51:51 +0000 (UTC) --001485f27210d18e3f046f20ec24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Very neat explanation and funny !!! Fabio 2009/7/20 Andy Schoen > Hey everyone, > > I just thought you all might get a kick out of this Pythonesque looping > demonstration! > > I use Guitar Rig's Loop machine for most of my music and I found this; > warning, it ends in a shameless self promo! > > Enjoy! > > > > > > Check out this video on YouTube: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsZkDmd4Dps > > > To listen to some of my music please visit: www.untitledvisions.com > > It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe! > > --001485f27210d18e3f046f20ec24 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Very neat explanation and funny !!!
=A0
Fabio

2009/7/20 Andy Schoen <larjschoen3@mac.com>
Hey everyone,

I just thou= ght you all might get a kick out of this Pythonesque looping demonstration!=

I use Guitar Rig's Loop machine for most of my music and I found th= is; warning, it ends in a shameless self promo!

Enjoy!




Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/wa= tch?v=3DUsZkDmd4Dps


To listen to some of my music please visit: www.untitledvisions.com

I= t's a Rock-N-Roll Universe!


--001485f27210d18e3f046f20ec24-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 10:54:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 318FC3BE77; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1248087281; l=3273; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID: X-RZG-AUTH; bh=WWWtfvETbiVVaxI5gHryivZiOpI=; b=aTjq5WldS1CGM+YWnxygoaP5OZZt2csR5qI2/DJxrPd/m2oTgtU19ng2KkSQFwkL27D ZTfbnxkOZ1AVcZqJAK1dxViTkcf9u6yidcjVgVUKdb+ErGjwcPrx5RLx0R+DhDAFl6W13 02q2XEjgJfy4tQMRIHt+ic7N3XCM2L3dIQE= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: "Loopers-Delight" Subject: Guitar to Midi Converter Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:57:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0177_01CA0939.AFAE9300" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:54:43 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0177_01CA0939.AFAE9300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Being a big fan of Fripp=B4s soundscapes, I=B4m always trying to get close to his orchestral sounds with my equipement.=20 I don=B4t use computer software for my loopings, just hardware: RC 50 and the Boss GT 8 - effectprocessor for guitar, and Micro-Korg synthesizer, Roland MC 303 Groovebox which has some cool Synth sounds too. I would like to control the synth sounds of the Micro-Korg and MC 303 = with my guitar- cause I=B4m a guitarist, not a keyboard player. I just noticed that there is this guitar-to-midi converter by Peterson = Sonuus - G2M. I watched some you-tube videos and it looks quite well. I mean it just = costs 98 Euros. The only thing that worries me is that it=B4s just monophonic = , which means you can=B4t play chords with it, just single notes. What are your experiences with this converter? Do you know a cheap = alternative with polyphonic possibilities ? Christo ------=_NextPart_000_0177_01CA0939.AFAE9300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Being a big fan of Fripp=B4s = soundscapes, I=B4m=20 always
trying to get close to his orchestral = sounds with=20 my equipement.
I don=B4t use computer software for my = loopings, just=20 hardware:
RC 50 and the Boss GT 8 - = effectprocessor for=20 guitar,
and Micro-Korg synthesizer, Roland MC = 303 Groovebox=20 which has some
cool Synth sounds too.
I would like to control the synth = sounds of the=20 Micro-Korg and MC 303 with my guitar-
cause I=B4m a guitarist, not a keyboard = player.
I just noticed that there is this = guitar-to-midi=20 converter by Peterson Sonuus - G2M.
I watched some you-tube videos and it = looks quite=20 well. I mean it just costs
98 Euros. The only thing that worries = me is that=20 it=B4s just monophonic , which
means you can=B4t play chords with it, = just single=20 notes.
What are your experiences with this = converter? Do=20 you know a cheap alternative
with polyphonic possibilities = ?
 
Christo
------=_NextPart_000_0177_01CA0939.AFAE9300-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 11:19:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 003643BE73; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:19:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=LyWBKNPhDngfMOWSl6k9vHLAVWE2AjLRAXW8uK+TlXA0SZs54Z+pdx35T2kwpviWBdD0wfAJOkUPnsLsFrPfATEEXeYl38mhm84CY7DUWN0it0o+4Frr9VEtZPKd8FUjMSxd3TuFz2JP+MNShYJWx6rCa5/fTvWv1XU/U8Js4EY= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: prqHafcVM1krjqhMGHxE87LvDkxfG61yr4EskoM4d7QZNNU0WjKmQqJ7yJ.MVtOrvTO5SB4qvjHhsKPD86z78CvWUmT9eHHo0y4OUqe5kZOUWmoJxTv6mqZxbQK1FaHBj1gBeF8BNHcvaGtmyuo7m7gFt1rvJril798KxhuGZjJ8ab6gX1oWIIgglhueSOiRCRz4YpKcJBjkDBj8Gg_5S.ZFdoUS7lGQ99z.MIzDtLxCc6AzGNy3Lbj_4UIsdf5Z5h8bb3GZ6lyOXNtpo8EP9k7L0E7iYgBV9IHsRzvxLt7iQQ9aaJdxsUdhS0vLgX3Svfh4d4VKlPyf9XWOkUeM255o_Rvg7DzY1SY- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <68F9FC304C8F4C3BA813C901EB6A7599@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Subject: Re: Guitar to Midi Converter Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:19:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA0934.59F6DB20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:19:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA0934.59F6DB20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The axon ax-50 is the most affordable polyphonic converter that I know = of. Ricky ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Christo Jota=20 To: Loopers-Delight=20 Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 11:57 AM Subject: Guitar to Midi Converter Being a big fan of Fripp=B4s soundscapes, I=B4m always trying to get close to his orchestral sounds with my equipement.=20 I don=B4t use computer software for my loopings, just hardware: RC 50 and the Boss GT 8 - effectprocessor for guitar, and Micro-Korg synthesizer, Roland MC 303 Groovebox which has some cool Synth sounds too. I would like to control the synth sounds of the Micro-Korg and MC 303 = with my guitar- cause I=B4m a guitarist, not a keyboard player. I just noticed that there is this guitar-to-midi converter by Peterson = Sonuus - G2M. I watched some you-tube videos and it looks quite well. I mean it just = costs 98 Euros. The only thing that worries me is that it=B4s just = monophonic , which means you can=B4t play chords with it, just single notes. What are your experiences with this converter? Do you know a cheap = alternative with polyphonic possibilities ? Christo -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.20/2250 - Release Date: = 07/20/09 06:16:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CA0934.59F6DB20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The axon ax-50 is the most affordable = polyphonic=20 converter that I know of.
 
Ricky
 

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--0-1445735855-1248090211=:62558-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 11:51:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C9F93BE79; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090720115126312.0796D80000B6@mwinf2e03.orange.fr Message-ID: From: "Jean Philippe" To: References: <561871.61099.qm@web51511.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:51:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01CA0941.2CCD3290" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:51:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01CA0941.2CCD3290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mark, if you want to unsubscribe I think you must post your requests to Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Best, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Marc Marshall=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 1:41 PM Subject: unsubscribe =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01CA0941.2CCD3290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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= ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01CA0941.2CCD3290-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 11:59:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5816E3BE78; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=D+jmPq88xdhTKT14Zk4rkWmNS69U4XNvYlQJgHjZD9o=; b=lzP+da3nmWpkP4qjmODhbykz2sSUQBDjYThTZXhaRb1gc3mGpah240iCfzjt3SrY4n Qv3YdHPj/y6F7iJpPrinKB2Vy90r9G0oycsg4cG8kw+lsKenZ/RH/S9eo2UbJofNAPj6 lxIrhV5dRePuaBPSY2s7ejcCOJfDRb+a7F650= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JLWptqHMPwM2+dvOWtIyhTEdAeI6b06yedjABYfQhj+vfs6HFQEcZFdKIyC5M1pLD/ gd/Pn8dq34LYEN07wdAo+7nXm33J+LiHFqjwVJC6nbsE/hjQZcpOlxYPcw7BsqsqVB13 1V30Cay1K1cNRD0+nMzAO+JTXF+xT2blkmyhs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <004e01ca091b$39c79ab0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:59:09 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907200459t79036826p1eddaab0e9c815bb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Looping demonstration gone wild! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd560e29a5013046f21dd5c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:59:10 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd560e29a5013046f21dd5c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > it was fun watching and hearing you build up the layers, but once you'd > reached the "end" point with all layers in, i felt a bit like "what's next?" I had the same feeling as Sim here and I think it comes from all instrument parts being looped at the same loop length. Let's say you open a second instance of Guitar Rig, can you then make that loop spin at a different length? If the video's loop was two bars it would be great to have the option to lay down some parts into a three bars loop. The video was really great! Funny acting and cool editing/cutting. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --000e0cd560e29a5013046f21dd5c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
it was fun watching and hearing you build up the layers, but once you'= d reached the "end" point with all layers in, i felt a bit like &= quot;what's next?"


I had= the same feeling as Sim here and I think it comes from all instrument part= s being looped at the same loop length. Let's say you open a second ins= tance of Guitar Rig, can you then make that loop spin at a different length= ?=C2=A0

If the video's loop was two bars it would be great = to have the option to lay down some parts into a three bars loop.


 --000e0cd560e29a5013046f21dd5c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 12:06:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BCFF3BE80; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qpTBIsoZ8Sk4QlNlMF0la/+rtBKTikwPki3yMWbRHyk=; b=R30TVr2dkloXRls21eJD5cCChb85eR9qe/nx3+fOfoBt9Ha7tFUK1No7gESrMSU+3o ryvUxxT9d5uL6bz2BeHC34sh76G0tcBilVsnLZuW4tCkOigvAbYTjeNv7jjfJgn+Q4Pg O03XVoEzA7FrvngKf5lBEMyS56YABqSQ4vR1c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=jNhT1Pt0b70JxrO3tA40R5B545LiAjYRxBYyBANIgtsszmiFpRi3GVe/j5qSw5vdSc ZQtMhhUIAR2NnJHqqPB1+aRjJhnVuJMax9eZRvC7aDWNl5R8ykZi7kQ4glLO3S0fdeut BrHXyIsmGy5PikJ0wh/ija/Ax8s1CJ60Ao+Yc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907200459t79036826p1eddaab0e9c815bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <004e01ca091b$39c79ab0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <66f9cc1e0907200459t79036826p1eddaab0e9c815bb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:06:38 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping demonstration gone wild! From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f6ccba6b3030046f21f8ce Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:06:40 +0000 (UTC) --001485f6ccba6b3030046f21f8ce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yeah it was great fun! it would be easy to do this stuff with sooperlooper patched to the outputs of guitar rig and it would open up a lot of possibilities. just shows what a lot of talent and a simple rig can achieve though On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Simeon Harris < > simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> it was fun watching and hearing you build up the layers, but once you'd >> reached the "end" point with all layers in, i felt a bit like "what's next?" > > > > I had the same feeling as Sim here and I think it comes from all instrument > parts being looped at the same loop length. Let's say you open a second > instance of Guitar Rig, can you then make that loop spin at a different > length? > > If the video's loop was two bars it would be great to have the option to > lay down some parts into a three bars loop. > > The video was really great! Funny acting and cool editing/cutting. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > --001485f6ccba6b3030046f21f8ce Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yeah it was great fun! it would be easy to do this stuff with sooperlooper = patched to the outputs of guitar rig and it would open up a lot of possibil= ities. just shows what a lot of talent and a simple rig can achieve though<= br>
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Per Boysen= <perboysen@gma= il.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris4= 0@googlemail.com> wrote:
it was fun watching and hearing you build up the layers, but once you'= d reached the "end" point with all layers in, i felt a bit like &= quot;what's next?"


I had the same feeling as Sim here and I think it comes from all instrument= parts being looped at the same loop length. Let's say you open a secon= d instance of Guitar Rig, can you then make that loop spin at a different l= ength?=A0

If the video's loop was two bars it would be great = to have the option to lay down some parts into a three bars loop.

The video was really great! Funny acting and cool editing/c= utting.=A0

Greetings from Sweden

Pe= r Boysen=A0
www.boyse= n.se
www.perb= oysen.com

--001485f6ccba6b3030046f21f8ce-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 12:39:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 577003BE82; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:39:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A646606.7040107@het.it> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:41:42 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: something I'd like to share with you References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------040109010909020608010208" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090106-1, 06/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:39:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040109010909020608010208 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Very nice! I dwnld it! thank you!

Massimo

Jean Philippe ha scritto:
Hi all,
this is totally off topic, but so uplifting.
http://video.ted.com/talks/podcast/BenjaminZander_2008_480.mp4
enjoy .
JPR


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Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:56:58 +0000 (UTC) --0-408619858-1248094618=:73195 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks, I appreciate your help!! Marc Marshall =A0 =A0 "I am human, I am large, I contradict myself" =A0 .....and then some=A0=20 --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Jean Philippe wrote: From: Jean Philippe Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 7:51 AM Hi Mark, if you want to unsubscribe I think you must post your requests to Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Best, JPR =A0 http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Marc Marshall=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 1:41 PM Subject: unsubscribe =A0 =0A=0A=0A --0-408619858-1248094618=:73195 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Hi Mark,
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=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-408619858-1248094618=:73195-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 13:10:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 200FD3BE78; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:10:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 602 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:10:49 UTC From: "Lamb, Jason" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:00:41 -0500 Subject: unsubscribe Thread-Topic: unsubscribe Thread-Index: AcoIi2m2mC/kXFPmRdSVSZhd1YFVkwArqcAw Message-ID: <1B04B2C819775D41B1B25B3A7985181D09DD28CAB7@HICGWSEX01.ad.harman.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2009 13:00:42.0314 (UTC) FILETIME=[167722A0:01CA093A] Resent-Message-ID: <_VoGHD.A.OaH.bzGZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:10:52 +0000 (UTC) -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:zerocrossing@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:10 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: why we founded this list I think so. It was crazy that he and I had been exchanging emails for quite some time off list when we found out that he lived right next to me! What are the odds... anyway, he's a great guy. We had some good times on that little island. On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 8:36 AM, David Gans wrote: > At 11:40 AM -0300 7/19/09, Matthias Grob wrote: >> >> This paragraph is about the personal situation, you can skip it: >> I am a true friend of the Walker brothers and I also had a good time wit= h >> Mark when we have been neighbours for some fantastic coincidence, when I >> lived in Gary Halls house on Alameda island. (Gary is one of the fathers= of >> livelooping, now retired in Tailand) > > Is that the Gary Hall who worked at Sonic Solutions in the early '90s? > > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: =A0http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 13:15:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A37B3BE78; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:15:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248095718; bh=eYQWvkW5crnf1nC7zmMFyWs/6V+EVAYyGTyjwe0ci8g=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fXDmptBfiBsnfTqDp8KRLR5ZH6eIU7shVSa/K/YnDbjRl7z5dgY9xsitu/CxcV8xl4KZxT2SbIm72mYvCUhxi2K1k/x3xr5wpmYoP+pWxr23wzebpyHbuN3exBHWamZtkNM6/BOfrYe8c23z8AgSJqvhXSd1DXWkX948LgST6tI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PqI0HFG6EWXDjKCNEGtnAkOWH90wxixwHhkff3a0/o9gjAwgGzK8c88vSNwZ5TFcNoySBdLfjcB0iHkDkO0JQn6BHObT0rHsuxxpUHgkex4BJyX1fBvwGyjoqtF4NVZnJaY5io3mqJzFAcarpdZ+qjys8N9nOsQw03jh1LWPo9o=; Message-ID: <678750.37476.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aO5.QFYVM1kpJAXVY65KsX5vJyqWpBf__TTnyXHMF9QmMiI7Z_IooF_oOW4fqdgo7dmClitz6HUGU3YUjZ9rqIQEvT2B5GKiJyEO8oDMDaD8yB0PxY1u7UqVXAlfkmBA1CDmfRBBa1Wv_PJMyJ.OzUW9i63Z3I8gOHiDG1vLaSCt00MXmpayK20Oqz1f1WcEeTrPOAly_5x7WB8B5MOY3yHu_qpXxXQluYrAFmnxGdB4vNZZ8DqZSgEBapetSxBS3FME8X5D8p1DTusRUn88O0HuIOsUvXmmDc05gzbuAdtOiRty1oez4rCbQ_sdKXUtMCLDqfIRqc6qg5t_Re3Vqb5spptoEvfU.o9wIA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 06:15:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1205744047-1248095718=:37476" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:15:20 +0000 (UTC) --0-1205744047-1248095718=:37476 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (See, this is kind of what I was talking about... there's always someone like you who seems to feel it's important to share the music you make as if it's not enough to just make it and enjoy making it.) =A0 Wow. I agree with you absolutely. When I get a recording of something I've = done (even with a few warts), the enjoyment to me is listening to it later = again. Whether anyone else hears it is immaterial to me. I may play some of= my stuff for friends while driving, etc. but gaining the approbation of ot= her musicians, et al is not essential. --- On Fri, 7/17/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: From: Mark Sottilaro Subject: Re: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. I= mprovisational) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 5:37 PM On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Mark Sottilaro schrieb: >> >> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: >> >> How many people have David Torn >> CDs? =A0How many people have David Bowie's Heathen? It's not because one >> is better or marketed better. =A0I just think people like the format >> that David Bowie writes in more. > > Mark, this sounds all very pessimistic. I bet if I had these thoughts in = my > head nobody would like my music including myself... Who said I didn't like my music?=A0 I love my music!=A0 I love making it too. The night before last I had an amazing time just messing around in my studio inspired by some sounds from Waldorf's new Largo VSTi. It's not pessimistic, it's just observation. It's not that other people don't express that they like my music either.=A0 What I'm saying is that does not matter to me.=A0 Having other people like my music does not enhance the experience for me at all.=A0 In fact, the worry that they might not like my music has a much worse effect on my overall experience. > Thats not how magic works! There's no such thing as magic! > Its the opposite, if you like your own stuff, you'll share it. I bet you > will find people which like it, because it means something to you. There = is > no need to care about the other 6 billion people in the world who'll neve= r > hear it anyway... See, this is kind of what I was talking about... there's always someone like you who seems to feel it's important to share the music you make as if it's not enough to just make it and enjoy making it. Trust me, I tried to make a commercial go at being a musician and it's not in me.=A0 I could never deal with the marketing, band wrangling and dealing with venues it takes.=A0 Plus, I hate traveling.=A0 Even for fun... it's not fun when you do a gig with Rick and Bill Walker where you drive for over an hour, spend an hour setting up and shlepping your gear plus a full video set up with a 16 foot screen and find out they can't be bothered to move a monitor near you so you have to play with headphones while smashed all the way off to the side of the stage because they've spit the area among themselves. Awesome.=A0 Not all gigs end up that way, but the majority seem to fall along those lines. It's not pessimistic to me to ask myself, "what's more fun?=A0 2 or 3 hours of breakdown/setup/travel for an hour or less of playing in front of an audience where I can't hear myself all that well... or 4 hours of time in my home studio alone or with a friend making music?" The time in my studio always wins. > I also bet that the percentage of owners of David Torn CD's which adore h= is > music is higher than the percentage o owners of David Bowie, Phil Collins= , > (fill in any star) music. How much would you like to bet?=A0 I'll take that kind of action any day. ;)=A0 I think even I adore Bowie's music more than David Torn's. =0A=0A=0A --0-1205744047-1248095718=:37476 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1205744047-1248095718=:37476-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 13:17:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 455B43BE7C; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=NO2CR19XDw8e5T43+GQKIwL44+xq9T3roz/bYOnh3Ek=; b=QXm2YUnic0LxHl6mGjKyHK2huJPh2w2DPuGorq3p7mEkuWlFPPkMj78Jy2GjE0/KBT htxGzBWUZ6txNt3UXYtkpA9mS3oZ/xqRRJSTayMQnbnzklmZCsGSeTyBf/fa+pjpGF3A LS+pJ7m7yK52Ci9ieU/tsCyOA10xbv8xyR8W0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=f1CQaWBNtjwzZMfkR6sWP/ilRvVm51VsV4mgk3tctNaCkCxxxIqv5I1zYtVuyXFRP4 JevThiIpyX+jdckhXUvFd5m/hPHVJSTwKFfVZLVOa9x/L6aF+5qiUE8KtZF6rfqJp39C 6Bikbdh6VLU0tWGjV7zANDin+dsR9IqAm5EY8= Message-Id: From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907200155r16d0a20dpd79dbf4adc5ce24c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-68--794285991 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Looping demonstration gone wild! Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:17:33 -0300 References: <9ab0c76f0907200155r16d0a20dpd79dbf4adc5ce24c@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <_7S6o.A.b0H.G6GZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:17:58 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-68--794285991 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I liked it a lot, too! but it seems there is a misunderstanding. Andy uses Guitar Rig and thats why he found the video which is made by some Jayme Gutierrez who probably never appeared on this list. what a pity! Matthias On 20 Jul 2009, at 05:55, mark francombe wrote: > Phew.. phenomenal Andy... have to say as a old an crusty hardware > looper, this video ably demonstrates why Ill never become a software > looper... assign bass to guitar rig preset, pan left route to > looper .. I assure you I would never get all that to work... I got a > bit dizzy during this bit and woke up with the cool looping... > > great video tho.. cant use your music, but you want a video editor > job? > > M > > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Simeon Harris > wrote: > superb andy! > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Andy Schoen > wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I just thought you all might get a kick out of this Pythonesque > looping demonstration! > > I use Guitar Rig's Loop machine for most of my music and I found > this; warning, it ends in a shameless self promo! > > Enjoy! > > > > > > Check out this video on YouTube: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsZkDmd4Dps > > > To listen to some of my music please visit: www.untitledvisions.com > > It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe! > > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --Apple-Mail-68--794285991 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I liked it a lot, too!
but = it seems there is a misunderstanding. Andy uses Guitar Rig and thats why = he found the video which is made by some Jayme Gutierrez who probably = never appeared on this list.
what a = pity!
Matthias

On 20 Jul 2009, at = 05:55, mark francombe wrote:

Phew.. = phenomenal Andy... have to say as a old an crusty hardware looper, this = video ably demonstrates why Ill never become a software looper... assign = bass to guitar rig preset, pan left route to looper .. I assure you I = would never get all that to work... I got a bit dizzy during this bit = and woke up with the cool looping...

great video tho.. cant use = your music, but you want a video editor = job?

M



On Mon, Jul 20, = 2009 at 10:44 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.co= m> wrote:
superb andy!


On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at = 8:45 AM, Andy Schoen <larjschoen3@mac.com> wrote:
=
Hey = everyone,

I just thought you all might get a kick out of this = Pythonesque looping demonstration!

I use Guitar Rig's Loop = machine for most of my music and I found this; warning, it ends in a = shameless self promo!

Enjoy!





Check = out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUsZkDmd4Dps
=

To listen to some of my music please visit: www.untitledvisions.com

It's a = Rock-N-Roll Universe!


=



--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/us= er/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markf= rancombe
htt= p://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
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= --Apple-Mail-68--794285991-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 13:55:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F1A23BE79; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Vl6HUO+wk2DHWN32OTPnVMbA/C5/TrOKxVNIALcJ0jU=; b=DbAdJAiKTSIMes5J1W6HJgWRIgjDpmGUU5L83aM54+wK4tv8VtciCEjG/tGt4fLi4I x+ggzT4DCtCD+Rv/WycF6r5SwZ9KdxUivoKJJak8BODPsKbucAPgHn2Lz0sqyrcwfcRa z6zj8FEzgdLuKwh4W/lOMe1q/U1EKKs0eQRwY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=J1r4vP7n6bnzND3NiXpEUC/6LOUW4j05q4gGFsLk1zqBmqYIpbv+mBShDtbLzDvQsm 3JbVC7Iqdt7EjYYAIkl1lj7A04TEeDGApjTKZx8Ef0B7Z2sWTWppzE3WF5+s+PT9q7RA vT4yCqVv5OQ+2CthinOIKMPVI8ZIYMljBtQLQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907200459t79036826p1eddaab0e9c815bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <004e01ca091b$39c79ab0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <66f9cc1e0907200459t79036826p1eddaab0e9c815bb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:55:08 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping demonstration gone wild! From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:55:10 +0000 (UTC) 2009/7/20, Per Boysen : > Let's say you open a second > instance of Guitar Rig, can you ... 2 X GR = serial cpu killer (imho) modem guy. couldn't check the video. what i like about GR is that really improves the sound (and cpu cycles!) by checking its oversampling button, not as ik multimedia sw i tested, which doesn't make any audible improvement. .02 -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 14:41:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28F193BE79; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 824 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:41:13 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UmX5bv7uvtBQKljZCBont2GgN/ZPNwx69bs4hSrbHuY=; b=K13nQLaSjsBlstGjCf8HsPy3qPJ3/J3Cm6WH2PEeloKeLPJcBphoSRIsWRejQdIb5p auPILXXGtwb7A8Xw0+ujnm8Z2Sc17/WhERtJsY7wVNPKwMZINiCT6u6SXTg9S2IpLahV j33QBZByBagrAwUzrgi3JIk3HsLp9jSGjskN0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DOioTCGBTFI8XEfKx1L5mt1IUBvyfGCStsqHJ2hxw9APiOgqUdzUgkUp+UxZJQjmDG /HAclnshXvGjrmcxqyVquCOwVnZg+qevKuGWWLbU+ETsnnHoO1CPvhy+Ywt3QsCW5vi2 nyxw+MmA0PHhJbcA9miAk7NiUFfrI2vmbarGc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <00fd01ca091c$5e21ad00$0201a8c0@Toshiba> References: <00fd01ca091c$5e21ad00$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:19:11 +0200 Message-ID: <146cdfa70907200719v581ebc5dw12441b8156fff9b5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Filomena Moretti From: Marco Ronci To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502dfc5649d37046f23d252 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:41:14 +0000 (UTC) --00504502dfc5649d37046f23d252 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...picked up from google... http://www.entemusicaleozieri.com/moretti_filomena.htm is a short italian bio. Toward the end of the page you'll find an e-mail adddress and a telephone number. I don't know nor I am affiliated with her or her business in any way, just trying to be helpful. Ciao Marco (Italy) 2009/7/20 Christo Jota > Has anyone heard of Filomena Moretti? She=B4s an Italina > Classical Guitarist, born 1973. Like Segovia. She=B4s good. > Now someone wrote to me that he saw her in Paris in > a concert where she played one of my Christo Jota - compositions and he > wants to know which one it was. > Would like to tell him asking her, but can=B4t find any contact for Filom= ena > Moretti in the internet. > Maybe someone of you guys have a CD with her e-mail contact or management= . > Best, > Christo > www.christojota.de > > --00504502dfc5649d37046f23d252 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...picked up from google...
http://www.entemusicaleozieri.com/moretti_filomena.h= tm is a short italian bio.
Toward the end of the page you'll fin= d an e-mail adddress and a telephone number.
I don't know nor I am affiliated with her or her business in any way, j= ust trying to be helpful.
Ciao
Marco (Italy)


2009/7/20 Christo Jota <chris@christojota.de>
Has anyone heard of Filomena Moretti? = She=B4s an=20 Italina
Classical Guitarist, born 1973. Like S= egovia. She=B4s=20 good.
Now someone wrote to me that he saw he= r in Paris=20 in
a concert where she played one of my C= hristo Jota -=20 compositions and he wants to know which one it was.
Would like to tell him asking her, but= can=B4t find=20 any contact for Filomena Moretti in = the=20 internet.
Maybe someone of you guys have a CD wi= th her e-mail=20 contact or management.
Best,
Christo
=A0

--00504502dfc5649d37046f23d252-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 14:43:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E6903BE7C; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:43:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: something I'd like to share with you X-Priority: 3 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:43:24 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:43:29 +0000 (UTC) JPR, Absolutely amazing vid. Thanks for sending it our way. Everyone should watch. Peace, Ted Killian On Jul 20, 2009, at 3:44 AM, Jean Philippe wrote: > Hi all, > this is totally off topic, but so uplifting. > http://video.ted.com/talks/podcast/BenjaminZander_2008_480.mp4 > enjoy . > JPR > http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 15:03:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0B763BE77; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A64874B.50404@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:03:39 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: and now for something completely different...Jim Goodin and Daryl Shawn aka Chinapainting References: <7334ca1b0907191305r287f0f32qc3319e20ab6a1ee6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907191305r287f0f32qc3319e20ab6a1ee6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Rainer, am I ever glad that you put on Kybermusik! We will always owe you for that. Thanks much to everyone who stopped in to watch yesterday, I loved the feeling of playing for a worldwide crowd. Sorry I didn't respond to some of the gear questions - I was using my usual tape decks, no Kaoss pads or Hazarai's. cheers, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Dear Andy, Ricky, Ty and everyone else, > > why don't you stop those discussion for one moment and head over to > > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 > > Great live performance by Jim and Daryl. > > Boy, am I proud that I was more or less the reason they met at the > y2k6loopfest kybermusik event... > > Rainer > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.19/2245 - Release Date: 07/18/09 05:57:00 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 16:24:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3BFE3BE77; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=c8As93LiGtt3gBJzBdEcVZZIi68ck+z0l8fZMZZ/Va4=; b=e1FC4fnQ8Jp90QvU0LswQ4nLfevcLaSyhx1WDo+VWO9+6yCrmw2qMiduogJp8UQfvM UUycQqjxWq+vpmgonzYk+v9FchwCH25FyXKfyoO4VDPaSHWvzfofrrX4bdMUdh0OPUMf vilDQuWaiqdQO1kEuTVmuxp2K29WQvdqYbS7g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=XPUheomkkTGIpXH4EhYB9XgUi4A/2O+05Ic32Hzw4kvUxMf0cUEOfxqXLQ9oDuHrAf I0893jCAVR4NQPoy1sOhRM8rphgwSUVd8GO+N+Ve2Jj0sgC4Zmb36u6N32mKJNlsBYs+ dw9ZbOjmSQkKSTS6Fr8/OJuNBNYWPBqvEng+g= Message-Id: <99414849-CD4C-41C7-BF60-B25630C16879@gmail.com> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <146cdfa70907200719v581ebc5dw12441b8156fff9b5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-69--783122496 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT: Filomena Moretti Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:23:36 -0300 References: <00fd01ca091c$5e21ad00$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <146cdfa70907200719v581ebc5dw12441b8156fff9b5@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:24:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-69--783122496 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable she also has a youtube site, you can mail her there: http://www.youtube.com/user/FilomenaMorettiVIDS really beautiful music and person! On 20 Jul 2009, at 11:19, Marco Ronci wrote: > ...picked up from google... > http://www.entemusicaleozieri.com/moretti_filomena.htm is a short =20 > italian bio. > Toward the end of the page you'll find an e-mail adddress and a =20 > telephone number. > I don't know nor I am affiliated with her or her business in any =20 > way, just trying to be helpful. > Ciao > Marco (Italy) > > > 2009/7/20 Christo Jota > Has anyone heard of Filomena Moretti? She=B4s an Italina > Classical Guitarist, born 1973. Like Segovia. She=B4s good. > Now someone wrote to me that he saw her in Paris in > a concert where she played one of my Christo Jota - compositions and =20= > he wants to know which one it was. > Would like to tell him asking her, but can=B4t find any contact for =20= > Filomena Moretti in the internet. > Maybe someone of you guys have a CD with her e-mail contact or =20 > management. > Best, > Christo > www.christojota.de > > --Apple-Mail-69--783122496 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable she also has a youtube site, = you can mail her there:
really beautiful music and = person!

On 20 Jul 2009, at 11:19, Marco Ronci = wrote:

...picked up from google...
http://www= .entemusicaleozieri.com/moretti_filomena.htm is a short italian = bio.
Toward the end of the page you'll find an e-mail adddress and a = telephone number.
I don't know nor I am affiliated with her or her = business in any way, just trying to be helpful.
Ciao
Marco = (Italy)


2009/7/20 Christo Jota = <chris@christojota.de>
Has anyone = heard of Filomena Moretti? She=B4s an Italina
Classical Guitarist, born 1973. Like Segovia. = She=B4s good.
Now = someone wrote to me that he saw her in Paris in
a concert where she played one of my Christo = Jota - compositions and he wants to know which one it was.
=
Would like to tell him asking her, = but can=B4t find any contact for Filomena Moretti in the internet.
Maybe someone of you guys have a CD with her = e-mail contact or management.
Best,
Christo
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= --Apple-Mail-69--783122496-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 17:48:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A3B03BE77; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:48:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VjBLRVAnIicQRLdboPuBb+aqwcb8JvQue7BYg8EEMsQ=; b=wrdnjnCByXIvdPZrpmVdeNBtzFQhOa8eJBlTW+AM7aGTdPEM3dbjeGLjFdcrhVx/yZ HnJP0J0R84elQnzU9+YJSLeIjr02cQMKlND6dM6m0a/DhOBT9Y3dtjKIzIj9USYZwnun /56np0BlkHZ8kLyWlQKDKmUzxF2PD/sgdst3s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=J9G/nmWxP2q7LqO+Sz0A2QhLSlfe6AsdLmT/EM5XnwfXUe+zTkjTCX6uNoZj/f667P LFqpxwMkNlqh93IQXt/VE7YMXyd6DPMaU0SLWPuH8lp1sk0G3W5SLQcJQ4B5sRhLf8gG oZSIon6DtvFYL0jMP15syMPaII9xO08CiJobA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:48:13 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a84c4da3b688e931 Message-ID: <101191640907201048r4febb9d6p3706da7141c0a9c3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Digging through my stuff... From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016361e88560194f9046f26beb6 Resent-Message-ID: <0d1Q6C.A.gnB.f3KZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:48:15 +0000 (UTC) --0016361e88560194f9046f26beb6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i like. i dig all the low bass, nice pacing. got a little dizzy in the last 10 secs or so (autopanning -> headphones) On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Tony K wrote: > Been digging though my recordings and thought I'd share this one. I > did it for the Write an Album in a Month a few years ago. > > http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/Hypertropic.mp3 > > Enjoy, > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --0016361e88560194f9046f26beb6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i like. i dig all the low bass, nice pacing. got a little dizzy in the last= 10 secs or so (autopanning -> headphones)

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:
Been digging thou= gh my recordings and thought I'd share this one. =A0I
did it for the Write an Album in a Month a few years ago.

http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/Hypertropic.mp3

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--0016361e88560194f9046f26beb6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 18:46:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7ED5C3BE79; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:46:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=owI/xSX5phtCKYE+UE0G1xScEAvIbz6mqyngUX3enKU=; b=gcbP9yePkcRfgPFJXQ6LFDH0nF83RxQetwwpc8to0PHO8AKTUMVdQB4BjBxRn/TuaM xi+CI+N7mMIe4VMYTNH9+vMpAyUPNBd64ToEDaSSPoopLwTGKhluLlvQeyko0EbZDF7R gv1cdc1nWUUrlYdBVnTnN9yaSaRmi2VCsfohM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EnqrGcwt1PW5JEpFNNp49Z7OswwPBZwgUrU3oQzhcSQIl1B2mg+X/xozJfElMOzh3x VDh+ki0URJDdiw6w99RHdsYV1TCq5BZknxJWRFCHxp5ScIzrcHbg1fJI7fBluyfFOgQb Rypn/8r7p0ezgNfj4ND1blf4rjaZOROjC41wQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:46:42 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 791b17fad090b216 Message-ID: <37f071c00907201146o14edf045wbbe085b345a9523b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: WAY OT: DVD authoring software From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:46:43 +0000 (UTC) This one's way OT but I know some of you folks work with video professionally or semi so I thought I'd throw it out and see if anyone can help. I've got three files that I'm trying to author to DVD that all begin with a fade from black to the content. In their currently rendered form they play back perfectly on my PC (as both uncompressed AVI or compressed m2v files). However, when I author them to DVD, the intro gets obliterated into a burst of pixelization that resolves quickly enough and looks fine for the rest of the piece but is really distracting and annoying to me as it stands. I've used Adobe Encore (CS4) and Nero to see if there is a difference between them and both do the same thing to the poor files. I'm really at a loss since this is happening even when the files are small enough already that they don't have to be compressed any farther to fit on the DVD as they are (and they look fine playing from the file and rough from the DVD). Anyone have any ideas of how I might be able to resolve this? Thanks in advance again, Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 19:59:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E4F43BE7E; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:X-Priority:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=F3Jl0zQMKvVStzgvThlXcdr0v20BpiW9fRiynaJMHNY5e8Yot7t5VKIk5LghQQ3f1rBKkj7SA58XKkkim0od1jP96UziDe3sAbVTn4gH0TSPGUirg5Ls8P+9BX1dQE8GNpE1ObJ5Eqa2jNB7VZ4YOOPUV13AWQMOjxLYC89z+oE= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: kIi8LpwVM1nW7cpihbEvJYx8oJ61kDlg5dwhf27xKOqbGBQnSBD6iOq6zq.U9o7H1fSLK28scPKTWdlwh14xA6_bRl2WyxL6h.oDzlaOy7xWim0pdtOJZDe2G73ODngn9_N0cm9Jt9Igyq0Bh_qZeR5Rgj8rlW430Rml_nW1OmjNBjUd5bdPUbgl_DsIGv8gYWaPRvK7dAPAuBesmriCArXFBFNvg5bKwWhk7cr5Q3V2IbsEQDyjynBBWc5fHnPFT8tnqbv9Y3UlR2wtPTJ3440xjKdcB.4iKHhfQTTQkEAi3cZVM_IeXkgi193qEpbuOkSV8iGUKXOokQOzGmxDw5S5pu3r X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 In-Reply-To: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> References: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--770203246 Message-Id: <480F2DD3-4F0B-4613-B915-57F7E047C251@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Guitar to Midi Converter Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:58:56 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:59:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--770203246 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed I got one - demo ere http://www.youtube.com/watch?=20 v=3DbiGHEN0DWFk&feature=3Dchannel_page They track ok but it depends on the sound really Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 20 Jul 2009, at 11:57, Christo Jota wrote: > Being a big fan of Fripp=B4s soundscapes, I=B4m always > trying to get close to his orchestral sounds with my equipement. > I don=B4t use computer software for my loopings, just hardware: > RC 50 and the Boss GT 8 - effectprocessor for guitar, > and Micro-Korg synthesizer, Roland MC 303 Groovebox which has some > cool Synth sounds too. > I would like to control the synth sounds of the Micro-Korg and MC =20 > 303 with my guitar- > cause I=B4m a guitarist, not a keyboard player. > I just noticed that there is this guitar-to-midi converter by =20 > Peterson Sonuus - G2M. > I watched some you-tube videos and it looks quite well. I mean it =20 > just costs > 98 Euros. The only thing that worries me is that it=B4s just =20 > monophonic , which > means you can=B4t play chords with it, just single notes. > What are your experiences with this converter? Do you know a cheap =20 > alternative > with polyphonic possibilities ? > > Christo --Apple-Mail-1--770203246 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I got one  - demo ere http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbiGHEN0DWFk&feature=3Dchannel_= page

They = track ok but it depends on the sound&nb= sp;really

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 20 Jul 2009, = at 11:57, Christo Jota wrote:

Being a big fan of Fripp=B4s soundscapes, I=B4m = always
trying to get = close to his orchestral sounds with my = equipement.
I don=B4t = use computer software for my loopings, just = hardware:
RC 50 and the = Boss GT 8 - effectprocessor for guitar,
and Micro-Korg synthesizer, Roland MC 303 = Groovebox which has some
cool Synth sounds too.
I would like to control the synth sounds of the Micro-Korg = and MC 303 with my guitar-
cause I=B4m a guitarist, not a keyboard = player.
I just noticed = that there is this guitar-to-midi converter by Peterson Sonuus - = G2M.
I watched some = you-tube videos and it looks quite well. I mean it just = costs
98 Euros. The = only thing that worries me is that it=B4s just monophonic , = which
means you can=B4t = play chords with it, just single notes.
What are your experiences with this converter? = Do you know a cheap alternative
with polyphonic possibilities = ?
 
Christo

= = --Apple-Mail-1--770203246-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 20:06:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BCDD3BE79; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jwqs5LNbod524iEcqD4vogDJPQxOA0rpUxXYiT/uxNU=; b=EouSRBLuiN7dsc6sNPtb8am1QcM9Krth3W4vqzjHizpr55QySKouFF2gIEijEhcyye 7teKQlFbRwXe6mTREnvSL2jLpCUxSB4BaRM9zVxEXig+cyQOQVD7VLgON6GqAF9gkymN 4QmD7HxwsHdpw7wWZMgDw5qGHwrUrFjeLlLxk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pOe2raQ0vw071bX/+oK9vBTu1/R+3I9pXvwNDdwztDWPG0QOhSGuIVzmePoQK0lNuo WSe/DCFGmb+N6EXxR+9yPJgBSwFFmMv8CAYfbiVWTqSSY+0tGye9TuC7a5+dvxmAVTQu y5unX/8QDO+8bzEFbPWwj3NOpWRGb7ZIL9NJM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:06:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: why we founded this list From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:06:04 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Fabio_A wrote: > But....Mark, let me say that your thoughts could be sincere (as they are) > without being offensive. Sorry, but I didn't like the "personal" attack > you've made (in my opinion), exposing in public each single thoughs of yours > about the Walker Bros. Then you should be mad at the person who posted the "Open Letter..." I never had any intention of making my feelings and thoughts public until I was cornered. Trust me, several warning shots were fired off list in response to Miss Manners informing me of how bad I conduct myself on the list. Spend a moment thinking about posting a public "Open letter" to someone who's obviously mad at you... it frankly blows my mind. What was the point? Drag me into some open public feud? Not my style. From testuser@server2.jce.ac.il Mon Jul 20 20:17:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 43026 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:17:36 UTC Received: from server2.jce.ac.il (server2.jce.ac.il [62.90.88.19]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F96D3BE46 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server2.jce.ac.il (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by server2.jce.ac.il (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n6K8NqUC000381 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:23:52 +0300 Received: (from testuser@localhost) by server2.jce.ac.il (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n6K8NqsU000379; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:23:52 +0300 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:23:52 +0300 Message-Id: <200907200823.n6K8NqsU000379@server2.jce.ac.il> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received A Hallmark E-Card! From: "hallmark.com" Content-Type: text/html
(See, this is kind of what I was talking= about... there's always
someone like you who seems to feel it's importa= nt to share the music
you make as if it's not enough to just make it and= enjoy making it.)
 
Wow. I agree with you absolutely. When I get a recording of something = I've done (even with a few warts), the enjoyment to me is listening to it l= ater again. Whether anyone else hears it is immaterial to me. I may play so= me of my stuff for friends while driving, etc. but gaining the approbation = of other musicians, et al is not essential.

--- On Fri, 7/17/09, = Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com&g= t;
Subject: Re: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared= vs. Improvisational)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: F= riday, July 17, 2009, 5:37 PM

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Stefan
Tiedje&l= t;stefantiedje@= googlemail.com> wrote:
> Mark Sottilaro schrieb:
>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Bob Amstadt<bob@amstadt.com> wrote:
>>
>> = How many people have David Torn
>> CDs?  How many people have= David Bowie's Heathen? It's not because one
>> is better or marke= ted better.  I just think people like the format
>> that Davi= d Bowie writes in more.
>
> Mark, this sounds all very pessimis= tic. I bet if I had these thoughts in my
> head nobody would like my = music including myself...

Who said I didn't like my music?  I l= ove my music!  I love making it
too. The night before last I had an amazi= ng time just messing around
in my studio inspired by some sounds from Wa= ldorf's new Largo VSTi.
It's not pessimistic, it's just observation. It'= s not that other
people don't express that they like my music either.&nb= sp; What I'm saying
is that does not matter to me.  Having other pe= ople like my music does
not enhance the experience for me at all.  = In fact, the worry that
they might not like my music has a much worse ef= fect on my overall
experience.

> Thats not how magic works!
There's no such thing as magic!

> Its the opposite, if you l= ike your own stuff, you'll share it. I bet you
> will find people whi= ch like it, because it means something to you. There is
> no need to = care about the other 6 billion people in the world who'll never
> hea= r it anyway...

See, this is kind of what I was talking about... there's always
someone like you who seems to feel it's importa= nt to share the music
you make as if it's not enough to just make it and= enjoy making it.
Trust me, I tried to make a commercial go at being a m= usician and it's
not in me.  I could never deal with the marketing,= band wrangling and
dealing with venues it takes.  Plus, I hate tra= veling.  Even for
fun... it's not fun when you do a gig with Rick a= nd Bill Walker where
you drive for over an hour, spend an hour setting u= p and shlepping
your gear plus a full video set up with a 16 foot screen= and find out
they can't be bothered to move a monitor near you so you h= ave to play
with headphones while smashed all the way off to the side of= the stage
because they've spit the area among themselves. Awesome. = ; Not all gigs
end up that way, but the majority seem to fall along thos= e lines.
It's not pessimistic to me to ask myself, "what's more fun?  2 or 3
hours of breakdown/setup/travel for an hour or less o= f playing in
front of an audience where I can't hear myself all that wel= l... or 4
hours of time in my home studio alone or with a friend making = music?"

The time in my studio always wins.

> I also bet th= at the percentage of owners of David Torn CD's which adore his
> musi= c is higher than the percentage o owners of David Bowie, Phil Collins,
&= gt; (fill in any star) music.

How much would you like to bet?  = I'll take that kind of action any
day. ;)  I think even I adore Bow= ie's music more than David Torn's.

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 20:24:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BA4F3BE78; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:24:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lvD8OEzaQ4b1gqTWAgsHX7nW/TojEZwSISIGmAQFDxs=; b=iMDnnPA7nN5NPPANGMTOPIPu6wyg391zYFLVBaM/2hvbCbjw7vc/G2eQrd4QbHbaIN nmdCuV1lvN/c1LX67UEVWk/q0wpHq5q9MqJ8AzAaoTkJAGMksgow1oM7aCndWh637tlf LjnYDbD+tvJGs0XmF25i/lbs0CEsl0mgKySgc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eRh6aNCi/5jcEIWA1jXEO4FNTHAy+t7T4AypxH/nQfHPOG1G10gR6U+aVxvL+DhjOg ODsTLdyrgv5PITAyB1ibtzUElFgNYRn5lh6k7zTH/LjZoO308Hl/TMIxJtTKbAaIFacZ mARHyLV7FC2ciArU7g5o5r90xvERTHatvLZGY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37f071c00907201146o14edf045wbbe085b345a9523b@mail.gmail.com> References: <37f071c00907201146o14edf045wbbe085b345a9523b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:24:10 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0907201324m4d1e4741j235446012308c877@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: WAY OT: DVD authoring software From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:24:11 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kevin, This is kind of a left field question, but pixelization can sometimes be a product of the processing power of the player. Are your files 1080 HD by any chance? Is the pixelazation consistent on both the PC and a standalone DVD player? I've seen this happen to me on 1080 on _some_ playback devices with demanding content, but at 720 the pixelation disappears. I think you are right that a different encoder might produce different results, but I'm not going to be much help there. I always use the free DVD Flick PC software, which is adequate for my needs, but not pro quality. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > This one's way OT but I know some of you folks work with video > professionally or semi so I thought I'd throw it out and see if anyone > can help. > > I've got three files that I'm trying to author to DVD that all begin > with a fade from black to the content. =A0In their currently rendered > form they play back perfectly on my PC (as both uncompressed AVI or > compressed m2v files). =A0However, when I author them to DVD, the intro > gets obliterated into a burst of pixelization that resolves quickly > enough and looks fine for the rest of the piece but is really > distracting and annoying to me as it stands. =A0I've used Adobe Encore > (CS4) and Nero to see if there is a difference between them and both > do the same thing to the poor files. > > I'm really at a loss since this is happening even when the files are > small enough already that they don't have to be compressed any farther > to fit on the DVD as they are (and they look fine playing from the > file and rough from the DVD). > > Anyone have any ideas of how I might be able to resolve this? > > Thanks in advance again, > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble= . > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 20:24:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0B913BE73; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=a6oIdbLAkoRpGXPJrLqswE/8AIZcI0TzSbiTzfmMG7w=; b=rXxzQz7aT77SE/33nKslwlEgMCxGJC24pjyLpppiIbncDjq4el/iQPu2+zsRic9uav XdsleVO4jjmQdHP3QBuTY+FGD3HWLkJAhVbLbibDbUX1gyoH6YSRWHVt8y1F5NfmWGof 2hLAWRMekUGt/K13XusMNlkofz+hMW4Lu1vH8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=i1THHkiOHVqQ+RsubdJkY+N2Dh5PcK6qDE5/iFs3l0brR6wLbcR6OHSJLjQRuQvPUz UPQsPqZaZvyBYHdeMftnMOtPO2G7J2qmIQJtHRlBzvIceL2OWTaHd1VIo/vPX3dShDqM mKmaWnIFXPfG15aEUUwLYyKN/u/Pcb1v1R9Qk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <480F2DD3-4F0B-4613-B915-57F7E047C251@btinternet.com> References: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <480F2DD3-4F0B-4613-B915-57F7E047C251@btinternet.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:24:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Guitar to Midi Converter From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <8Br4jD.A.CbB.NKNZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:24:45 +0000 (UTC) I spent years using Roland and Yamaha based MIDI guitar solutions with limited success. The best thing I ever played with (but never owned) was the Roland VG8, but that's not "MIDI" but instead uses the hex pickup's output as something to put effects on (mostly amp models) and not to trigger a synth. Anyway, it always just felt to me like someone nagging me to sit up straight and stop mumbling. What if slouchy mumbling is my style? ;) In the end I found that with a small amount of practice I was able to get around on the keyboard in a fashion that actually worked better than any guitar to midi solution. I didn't take to it right away though, it was only after I played with a Novation controller that actually had nice feeling aftertouch built in that I really took to it. Now I can't imagine using anything else. M On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Matt Stevens wrote: > I got one =A0- demo > ere=A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbiGHEN0DWFk&feature=3Dchannel_page > They track=A0ok=A0but=A0it=A0depends=A0on=A0the=A0sound=A0really > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > On 20 Jul 2009, at 11:57, Christo Jota wrote: > > Being a big fan of Fripp=B4s soundscapes, I=B4m always > trying to get close to his orchestral sounds with my equipement. > I don=B4t use computer software for my loopings, just hardware: > RC 50 and the Boss GT 8 - effectprocessor for guitar, > and Micro-Korg synthesizer, Roland MC 303 Groovebox which has some > cool Synth sounds too. > I would like to control the synth sounds of the Micro-Korg and MC 303 wit= h > my guitar- > cause I=B4m a guitarist, not a keyboard player. > I just noticed that there is this guitar-to-midi converter by Peterson > Sonuus - G2M. > I watched some you-tube videos and it looks quite well. I mean it just co= sts > 98 Euros. The only thing that worries me is that it=B4s just monophonic , > which > means you can=B4t play chords with it, just single notes. > What are your experiences with this converter? Do you know a cheap > alternative > with polyphonic possibilities ? > > Christo > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 21:55:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEEFA3BE77; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=dnkKH0ScFXHw6OA7PhyhDBhVw6kgaKY6kG0K/+y95HE=; b=ZS8n1yINwvzdnHZaarox0N20nbc5Z+cMKnsOm10J1iBBVeNztfjSodhYdazLLrYrFI a/yKaht/xdRAwz8yRtzwOGhi2yYH4yHLulF37ocOnbPFFePCIMuMsrf7rg60oNslIyVQ Nk2TqGIds/Rn1nTaFjC/AcUfY3I8NSWBkSPFs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=x54iFi8yDg1C4WBGLiIrs9h9RegF3Isku5qcqcFSGIkPMlZ8sVQwW0c66kHmDqB3TY +BudC6FRDsuOWy6bpW1EFbcxgkmPHbDDYASXa9Y1jRPXuHcBgoZUejnUzHhbdw0RIxy9 SUgNWz+gJNMvqCFHCIw5s/Nv7caautrJskvJY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0907201324m4d1e4741j235446012308c877@mail.gmail.com> References: <37f071c00907201146o14edf045wbbe085b345a9523b@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0907201324m4d1e4741j235446012308c877@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:54:58 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 47c6c563999bb299 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907201454q2c71704o4cf377e9c64e350@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: WAY OT: DVD authoring software To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1e6a696d56a046f2a31d6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:55:19 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd1e6a696d56a046f2a31d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Almost definately your compressor. I guess you on a PC, or else you wouldnt be using horrible horrible avi... so quicktime might be hard for you... for big files.. you can make qt with h264 compresor.. for DVD, make an mpeg4... but.. are you sure it aint this fade... what software did u use to do that... sounds like a v buggy plugin, or bad edit...? true doing a crossfad= e FROM some black instead of a fade in plugin... maybe its all just a quirk..= . select all and move a few frames... or rendr that bit out and reimport... I know I know this all sounds like a lot of hassle... but video people go thr= u this everyday... its a minefield... btw.. are you black levels 0% or your whites 100%??? (only kidding.. but thats the sort of Q=B4s I GET from f***i= g TV companies... ) I go... " what...?" m On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Art Simon wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > This is kind of a left field question, but pixelization can sometimes > be a product of the processing power of the player. Are your files > 1080 HD by any chance? Is the pixelazation consistent on both the PC > and a standalone DVD player? I've seen this happen to me on 1080 on > _some_ playback devices with demanding content, but at 720 the > pixelation disappears. > > I think you are right that a different encoder might produce different > results, but I'm not going to be much help there. I always use the > free DVD Flick PC software, which is adequate for my needs, but not > pro quality. > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Kevin > Cheli-Colando wrote: > > This one's way OT but I know some of you folks work with video > > professionally or semi so I thought I'd throw it out and see if anyone > > can help. > > > > I've got three files that I'm trying to author to DVD that all begin > > with a fade from black to the content. In their currently rendered > > form they play back perfectly on my PC (as both uncompressed AVI or > > compressed m2v files). However, when I author them to DVD, the intro > > gets obliterated into a burst of pixelization that resolves quickly > > enough and looks fine for the rest of the piece but is really > > distracting and annoying to me as it stands. I've used Adobe Encore > > (CS4) and Nero to see if there is a difference between them and both > > do the same thing to the poor files. > > > > I'm really at a loss since this is happening even when the files are > > small enough already that they don't have to be compressed any farther > > to fit on the DVD as they are (and they look fine playing from the > > file and rough from the DVD). > > > > Anyone have any ideas of how I might be able to resolve this? > > > > Thanks in advance again, > > > > Kevin > > > > -- > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 > > > > > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --000e0cd1e6a696d56a046f2a31d6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Almost definately your compressor. I guess you on a PC, or else you wouldnt= be using horrible horrible avi... so quicktime might be hard for you... fo= r big files.. you can make qt with h264 compresor.. for DVD, make an mpeg4.= ..

but.. are you sure it aint this fade... what software did u use to do t= hat... sounds like a v buggy plugin, or bad edit...? true doing a crossfade= FROM some black instead of a fade in plugin... maybe its all just a quirk.= .. select all and move a few frames... or rendr that bit out and reimport..= . I know I know this all sounds like a lot of hassle... but video people go= thru this everyday... its a minefield... btw.. are you black levels 0% or = your whites 100%??? (only kidding.. but thats the sort of Q=B4s I GET from = f***ig TV companies... ) I go... " what...?"

m

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:24 PM, A= rt Simon <simart@g= mail.com> wrote:
Hi Kevin,

This is kind of a left field question, but pixelization can sometimes
be a product of the processing power of the player. Are your files
1080 HD by any chance? Is the pixelazation consistent on both the PC
and a standalone DVD player? I've seen this happen to me on 1080 on
_some_ playback devices with demanding content, but at 720 the
pixelation disappears.

I think you are right that a different encoder might produce different
results, but I'm not going to be much help there. I always use the
free DVD Flick PC software, which is adequate for my needs, but not
pro quality.

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Kevin
Cheli-Colando<kevin@minds-eye.org= > wrote:
> This one's way OT but I know some of you folks work with video
> professionally or semi so I thought I'd throw it out and see if an= yone
> can help.
>
> I've got three files that I'm trying to author to DVD that all= begin
> with a fade from black to the content. =A0In their currently rendered<= br> > form they play back perfectly on my PC (as both uncompressed AVI or > compressed m2v files). =A0However, when I author them to DVD, the intr= o
> gets obliterated into a burst of pixelization that resolves quickly > enough and looks fine for the rest of the piece but is really
> distracting and annoying to me as it stands. =A0I've used Adobe En= core
> (CS4) and Nero to see if there is a difference between them and both > do the same thing to the poor files.
>
> I'm really at a loss since this is happening even when the files a= re
> small enough already that they don't have to be compressed any far= ther
> to fit on the DVD as they are (and they look fine playing from the
> file and rough from the DVD).
>
> Anyone have any ideas of how I might be able to resolve this?
>
> Thanks in advance again,
>
> Kevin
>
> --
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trou= ble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09
>
>



--
Art Simon
simart@gmail.com
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--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
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http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--000e0cd1e6a696d56a046f2a31d6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 22:23:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66F753BE7C; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KkizlSUDEsvUoavAOzpjSVBX1UBwl3Y/NZUi6ev5O9M=; b=ZVEaY456607hqrkKJkS6Efe1Ay9IymSzYA2MQcCWNjknGLYnYEqYNjxe6imlJksdWV 7I5Ycw6JODEogpHIfxDMhDN1wU+dDVvHoVh5f0vsrQ2za9WxuvypKoc+BGi7mnrbMGp1 ZIvPRrAzOu6rE11ygMyrIHe5Jt2S9Dwz75VWg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=rGKiNueRPw/TgM6UIGPhz2HmEt3S9DBPQuhOgR007PFQqibdwCSMRdp7IEye7ibaLI E0zsSJ7W46XELOxeINk5Tr6wJFhShVS6l7zxkG9NrbQAdH9yqw8DbYKLXMN1W1EAsP5Q 6nVvqs/E+HN1nV9WmLUNPz19Dwos4UUoPZbAw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907201454q2c71704o4cf377e9c64e350@mail.gmail.com> References: <37f071c00907201146o14edf045wbbe085b345a9523b@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0907201324m4d1e4741j235446012308c877@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907201454q2c71704o4cf377e9c64e350@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:23:12 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: be01ab30d95db729 Message-ID: <37f071c00907201523l40237c0eq889f685fd1b7381e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: WAY OT: DVD authoring software From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, I'm on a PC using Premiere Pro (CS4). I don't think its the fade itself since it looks just fine when I play it on the computer itself (its only after its been burnt on DVD). The fade is from the default black background with the opacity of the initial frame at zero and slowly brought up to 100%. I suppose I can try rendering to QT first and see if that burns to DVD without issue. It doesn't seem like that should fix the problem, but what do I know, I'm just a rube who likes making images melt and gets befuddled thinking too much about compression schemes (and btw why do you call avi files horrible horrible?) Oh yeah, and this is a simple 720x480 piece, no HD or the like. Thanks Kevin On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:54 PM, mark francombe wro= te: > Almost definately your compressor. I guess you on a PC, or else you would= nt > be using horrible horrible avi... so quicktime might be hard for you... f= or > big files.. you can make qt with h264 compresor.. for DVD, make an mpeg4.= .. > > but.. are you sure it aint this fade... what software did u use to do > that... sounds like a v buggy plugin, or bad edit...? true doing a crossf= ade > FROM some black instead of a fade in plugin... maybe its all just a quirk= ... > select all and move a few frames... or rendr that bit out and reimport...= I > know I know this all sounds like a lot of hassle... but video people go t= hru > this everyday... its a minefield... btw.. are you black levels 0% or your > whites 100%??? (only kidding.. but thats the sort of Q=B4s I GET from f**= *ig > TV companies... ) I go... " what...?" > > m > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Art Simon wrote: >> >> Hi Kevin, >> >> This is kind of a left field question, but pixelization can sometimes >> be a product of the processing power of the player. Are your files >> 1080 HD by any chance? Is the pixelazation consistent on both the PC >> and a standalone DVD player? I've seen this happen to me on 1080 on >> _some_ playback devices with demanding content, but at 720 the >> pixelation disappears. >> >> I think you are right that a different encoder might produce different >> results, but I'm not going to be much help there. I always use the >> free DVD Flick PC software, which is adequate for my needs, but not >> pro quality. >> >> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Kevin >> Cheli-Colando wrote: >> > This one's way OT but I know some of you folks work with video >> > professionally or semi so I thought I'd throw it out and see if anyone >> > can help. >> > >> > I've got three files that I'm trying to author to DVD that all begin >> > with a fade from black to the content. =A0In their currently rendered >> > form they play back perfectly on my PC (as both uncompressed AVI or >> > compressed m2v files). =A0However, when I author them to DVD, the intr= o >> > gets obliterated into a burst of pixelization that resolves quickly >> > enough and looks fine for the rest of the piece but is really >> > distracting and annoying to me as it stands. =A0I've used Adobe Encore >> > (CS4) and Nero to see if there is a difference between them and both >> > do the same thing to the poor files. >> > >> > I'm really at a loss since this is happening even when the files are >> > small enough already that they don't have to be compressed any farther >> > to fit on the DVD as they are (and they look fine playing from the >> > file and rough from the DVD). >> > >> > Anyone have any ideas of how I might be able to resolve this? >> > >> > Thanks in advance again, >> > >> > Kevin >> > >> > -- >> > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a >> > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >> > trouble. >> > >> > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> > >> > Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Art Simon >> simart@gmail.com >> myspace [dot] com/artsimon >> > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 23:22:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9CEB3BE79; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rPquEXs/KUl/agSOlk+l1WRfFlpWCvbY/v6kCYHYX/M=; b=UExtmO2MRzR1Vi7MCb62rWBQcJR5DbI5XofnLwKmNl3eSjRS5/a2mvYyG8b1O+5AOH K/+efi1pQW5mvUiQoLMhAA8RRzSZVUyCbirODuzMs9HfQ2PLfxKypkc3LMx1d2uwek3d Aq85eF1QGgsQo5RSl1eqLtZP6Ymd+I7oJe5Wo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LdP9f09ru2yP+zcw65yG9UkOs/KclJVzl9+TWhV2Hn8WgPWSRvLbg01Lqkn9ui3YE+ 3HTThdR1UbC7d2Yb5Yk0WSGju74eHW/Zlrjh3jtVt8XAr2PnU0rm73aii0nfUqCyq77F HhM1IfWWvBpMVOrNKiiSd813vJY1sJ6o5FQrg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640907201048r4febb9d6p3706da7141c0a9c3@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640907201048r4febb9d6p3706da7141c0a9c3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:22:55 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Digging through my stuff... From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:22:58 +0000 (UTC) heavy bass from the start here listening with hd280 pro... but lovely. big tony ;-) is it warr, guitar, bass, synth or all of them? 2009/7/20, Warren Sirota : > i like. i dig all the low bass, nice pacing. got a little dizzy in the last > 10 secs or so (autopanning -> headphones) > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Tony K wrote: > >> Been digging though my recordings and thought I'd share this one. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 20 23:53:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C427A3BE73; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:53:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=GRvYEEGwjQJ03NYAMGcnh9canB+RjMuWZo3ZvdP/UYg=; b=aBd3tywrIYcoYX8cNtePmV4wBVSmC3x+998WoN/LnyAiuA3Yk83o/ZNehQ2goFVPKZ GnzWoYEB/n8XfJT9z2fW/du3ADwdVyIrvko1qCqAoOrAZ9Rhpt9TWLBedT+unEqkCDj/ NMlUmjtVbsX08QTI0UPtXz83T8kjjHUg29UHQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; b=VHO2A38KnX/IlTinMNb5NvPkHsVoXsTTUoPHaVOmKqtyGeLAEtI8N8RTgVIHP/7jK+ gFhRmwfjOF3t3GxN24If9PEtKedwPhy2YNEqGlEoXaFqCWItGkSCghV1/GW2SQGa9Y4J ZEIRrh74xTDcs7PCYjVGvUWAZVLbKVhKhSHuc= From: "Tony K" To: References: <101191640907201048r4febb9d6p3706da7141c0a9c3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Digging through my stuff... Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:53:21 -0400 Message-ID: <000001ca0995$446a8890$cd3f99b0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoJkQYOylcGzW7ATKmYmlXmnER6TQAArEMw Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:53:32 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Been a while, but I believe it's my Akai AX73, guitar through an RP2000 and a Roland RSP550, bass through ModFX probably. No Warr unfortunately. I'd love to have one. Tony -----Original Message----- From: Raul Bonell [mailto:raul.bonell@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:23 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Digging through my stuff... heavy bass from the start here listening with hd280 pro... but lovely. big tony ;-) is it warr, guitar, bass, synth or all of them? 2009/7/20, Warren Sirota : > i like. i dig all the low bass, nice pacing. got a little dizzy in the last > 10 secs or so (autopanning -> headphones) > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Tony K wrote: > >> Been digging though my recordings and thought I'd share this one. I >> did it for the Write an Album in a Month a few years ago. >> >> http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/Hypertropic.mp3 >> >> Enjoy, >> >> -- >> -==-=-=- >> Tony >> >> > > > -- > Warren > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 > http://www.warrensirota.com > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 01:59:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C58CF3BE7E; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:59:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:59:15 UTC Message-ID: <4A651F50.4040108@flyloops.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:52:16 -0700 From: Aaron Leese User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: iphone looper ... apparently References: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <480F2DD3-4F0B-4613-B915-57F7E047C251@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:59:15 +0000 (UTC) Hey! Just sharing my excitement over this: http://www.gearwire.com/fklyloops-loopingstudio3point2.html I'm surprised it works on the iPhone. I guess I shouldn't be though ..... I constructed the new version with JUCE (raw material software) .... any other C++ programmers on this list? If you are programming audio applications, this is hands down the best library out there. I guess I better buy an iPhone now .. ha! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 02:00:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8756B3BE7F; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:00:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_lYaFx0qVyH/2BjgKi+fSyA)" Message-id: <9A8B4593-C7B9-47DD-B3B6-C8A83DD26AB0@mac.com> From: Andy Schoen To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-reply-to: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Subject: Re: Looping demonstration gone wild! Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:00:43 -0700 References: <9ab0c76f0907200155r16d0a20dpd79dbf4adc5ce24c@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <56CO5C.A.8WE.TFSZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:00:51 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_lYaFx0qVyH/2BjgKi+fSyA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Actually Maitthias, I was searching for looping in general, and this caught my eye as I do use GR. He had won a contest with Native Instruments a while back. I record my loops initially in GR, then import the wav files into Ableton. Then I tweak them until it is truly another peice of music when I am done! I don't usually contribute to thus group as I don't do live looping. Always finding out cool things on the list though! Thanks for the response! Andy To listen to some of my music please visit: www.untitledvisions.com It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe! On Jul 20, 2009, at 6:17 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: > I liked it a lot, too! > but it seems there is a misunderstanding. Andy uses Guitar Rig and > thats why he found the video which is made by some Jayme Gutierrez > who probably never appeared on this list. > what a pity! > Matthias > > On 20 Jul 2009, at 05:55, mark francombe wrote: > >> Phew.. phenomenal Andy... have to say as a old an crusty hardware >> looper, this video ably demonstrates why Ill never become a >> software looper... assign bass to guitar rig preset, pan left route >> to looper .. I assure you I would never get all that to work... I >> got a bit dizzy during this bit and woke up with the cool looping... >> >> great video tho.. cant use your music, but you want a video editor >> job? >> >> M >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Simeon Harris > > wrote: >> superb andy! >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Andy Schoen >> wrote: >> Hey everyone, >> >> I just thought you all might get a kick out of this Pythonesque >> looping demonstration! >> >> I use Guitar Rig's Loop machine for most of my music and I found >> this; warning, it ends in a shameless self promo! >> >> Enjoy! >> >> >> >> >> >> Check out this video on YouTube: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsZkDmd4Dps >> >> >> To listen to some of my music please visit: www.untitledvisions.com >> >> It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe! >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > --Boundary_(ID_lYaFx0qVyH/2BjgKi+fSyA) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Actually = Maitthias,

I was searching for looping in = general, and this caught my eye as I do use GR.  He had won a = contest with Native Instruments a while back.

I = record my loops initially in GR, then import the wav files into Ableton. =  Then I tweak them until it is truly another peice of music when I = am done!

I don't usually contribute to thus = group as I don't do live looping.

Always = finding out cool things on the list though!  Thanks for the = response!

Andy 

To listen to some = of my music please visit: www.untitledvisions.com
It's a Rock-N-Roll = Universe!

On Jul 20, 2009, at 6:17 AM, = Matthias Grob <matilists@gmail.com> = wrote:

I liked it = a lot, too!
but it seems there is a misunderstanding. Andy uses = Guitar Rig and thats why he found the video which is made by some Jayme = Gutierrez who probably never appeared on this list.
what a = pity!
Matthias

On 20 Jul 2009, at = 05:55, mark francombe wrote:

Phew.. = phenomenal Andy... have to say as a old an crusty hardware looper, this = video ably demonstrates why Ill never become a software looper... assign = bass to guitar rig preset, pan left route to looper .. I assure you I = would never get all that to work... I got a bit dizzy during this bit = and woke up with the cool looping...

great video tho.. cant use = your music, but you want a video editor = job?

M



On Mon, Jul 20, = 2009 at 10:44 AM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.co= m> wrote:
superb andy!


On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at = 8:45 AM, Andy Schoen <larjschoen3@mac.com>= wrote:
Hey everyone,

I just thought you all might get a kick = out of this Pythonesque looping demonstration!

I use Guitar = Rig's Loop machine for most of my music and I found this; warning, it = ends in a shameless self promo!

Enjoy!




=
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DUsZkDmd4Dps


To listen to some of my = music please visit: www.untitledvisions.com
It's a Rock-N-Roll Universe!


=



--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094http://uk.youtube.com/us= er/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markf= rancombe
htt= p://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
=

= --Boundary_(ID_lYaFx0qVyH/2BjgKi+fSyA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 02:07:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63DBA3BE78; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:07:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:07:34 UTC Message-ID: <5D86AB3C66E24E12A4A092B1029EDBC5@office> From: "BC" To: References: <101191640907201048r4febb9d6p3706da7141c0a9c3@mail.gmail.com> <000001ca0995$446a8890$cd3f99b0$@com> Subject: What are the current probs w/RC-50? Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:59:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:07:34 +0000 (UTC) I've been a somewhat quiet member of the group for some time now and I've noticed that during the past 2 years there have been lots of complaints about the RC-50 in terms of dropouts, glitches, etc. Would you guys mind bringing me up-to-date on the current status of this unit? Has Boss ironed out the problems with updated firmware? If not, what issues remain? I want to replace my Boomerang because of its inferior fidelity, but I don't want to trade that problem for other issues. If you wouldn't recommend the RC-50 to replace the 'rang, then what would be a better idea? Digitech Jamman? Something else? I need to cap the budget at $500. Thanks everyone! Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 02:27:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCD933BE77; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:27:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4A651F50.4040108@flyloops.com> References: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <480F2DD3-4F0B-4613-B915-57F7E047C251@btinternet.com> <4A651F50.4040108@flyloops.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: iphone looper ... apparently Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:27:39 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc179.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:27:44 +0000 (UTC) > On Jul 20, 2009, at 8:52 PM, Aaron Leese wrote: > I'm surprised it works on the iPhone. Me too. My understanding is that the iPhone requires that the UI be built on Cocoa and JUCE the last time I checked uses Carbon. The Cocoa widgets in the iPhone SDK are also designed specifically for the idiosyncrasies of the device, especially things like popup dialogs, keyboard entry, and mouse gestures. I don't think you can just take something built for OSX and run it on the iPhone without major modifications, unless the app obeys some fairly strict rules. Does JUCE have some new "iPhone compatibility mode"? Other than mentioning iPhone in the article title I didn't see anything in the text that made it sound like it was running on an iPhone and the screenshot looks like a normal OSX app. Have you contacted the author to verify this claim? Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 02:38:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 760E33BE77; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:38:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4A651F50.4040108@flyloops.com> References: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <480F2DD3-4F0B-4613-B915-57F7E047C251@btinternet.com> <4A651F50.4040108@flyloops.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: iphone looper ... apparently Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:38:46 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc179.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: <33sfV.A.VDG.7oSZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:38:51 +0000 (UTC) Oh and BTW, JUCE is indeed very nice but it's GPL. Did you buy a commercial license or are you going to publish your source code? The one thing I didn't like about JUCE when I tried it was that everything looks like Tracktion :-) By which I mean that it uses no native UI componentry so things don't look and feel exactly like a native app. This isn't such a bad thing, but Mac users are often put off if it doesn't have brushed aluminum borders and conform to Apple's Golden Rules of UI Design :-) Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 03:44:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41FA03BE77; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oh4fvb9QeQqKpADm+HkCwGeZZgDWZiSxWQMfKpgPshk=; b=PUSgc30s8eX83mZ3OumbSeJIJlnbAoUF9Dre8BRcFXh7mqtBwQVAjP2C8sBVnTJlJV AXZW+x6W2cQ1vs4tg7e/bpv8U/xrNg6eCHJppkIiE4no2jOiH4OaCzlOEufps5MEls7o 9OZy3WkNfUcQdgOYt/1c/IywNLtEIhl81uB6Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=La2Hj3wK81tPZ7AIJBlnbY4vKaqlfyXShHEqPHIDLVjC/HGnhVB0IRKj/PyM69pfGD 0jeTAzkOrsV17R5ZqNT7TdK61lE8PBc2TSPuqVlHZE9dmYF/IBSdK9tqwTMnviRHinXI omI6ujEbC3O+7pnrh5Gx/BsDwHP27sF4qv+t8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907181446s979d6c7jfd27a6fc41699227@mail.gmail.com> References: <6415FB97-0AC4-4192-BD2C-ECCA31DB3263@earthlink.net> <66f9cc1e0907181446s979d6c7jfd27a6fc41699227@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:44:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_Cool_MacUpdate_Audio_Promo_this_weekend=85?= From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:44:04 +0000 (UTC) I'll chime in and say that Volcano is indeed an amazing tool... I ran it post Amplitube yesterday and got the most amazing sounds out of that filter. It's become a close contender to Audio Damage's Dr. Device (which has great XY control and automation plus a delay line) I hope a lot of people took advantage of this one. I'm going to experiment putting it post Mobius a little later to see what craziness can ensue. On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:03 PM, David Coffin wrote: >> http://www.mupromo.com/deal/892/5801 >> >> "Today you can purchase FabFilter Twin, FabFilter Volcano, FabFilter >> Timeless together as a bundle. Normally they cost $482.00, but you can buy >> them for only $99.99." >> >> OK, back to the fight! >> dc > > ON another list where this was discussed someone posted this link on > how you may work with Vulcano to get the most out of it: > http://prorec.com/Articles/tabid/109...d-Tactics.aspx > > The fab's seems cool for a laptop based looping rig. Especially the > Vulcano for distortion!!! And the tape delay sim seems good because it > has LFO controlled filters inside the delay line - that's a routing I > use very often. Especially funning a 110 % delay feedback through a > sweeping band pass filter. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 04:21:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEEE43BE6F; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 04:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GSMOy+kKAGJ8uxXYmS8w9A2RidAFhDmb25Wbdjzj2Og=; b=Zcdac2ep/8XSwuilWkug7QO4NfyBuqV2AG8WoNySw/JaRuqBAqR6hXkm5EH3Rn2f0S juTrNFlUVevcxLu4gm9zoGGvCi3v05hPAYBgINvz0/cTnz6tEUowPtVAIcjxjHiBqgiu LWqSeaw4TUA6L7HLncHiijTHv1K6wWXlfXtgs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WcsTr8Ut+dsrdheEO5IzdksCERJ3fXfHHlYDigiHKAhe1clv97iWH1oAwSP7CyVSjv m0WjM58prLNgUK5sHr9QiIjme0USBhr/wzZEy35aqgxirZ9VY6lsIG7QYl1IaRXCNuHa /HkwzPl0QuhA0skgF3zVFnU3Wc3XoaRgJDfyo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907200155r16d0a20dpd79dbf4adc5ce24c@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0907200155r16d0a20dpd79dbf4adc5ce24c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:21:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looping demonstration gone wild! From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 04:21:39 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:55 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Phew.. phenomenal Andy... have to say as a old an crusty hardware looper, > this video ably demonstrates why Ill never become a software looper... > assign bass to guitar rig preset, pan left route to looper .. I assure you I > would never get all that to work... I got a bit dizzy during this bit and > woke up with the cool looping. It's a cool video, nicely humorous but what I learned more than anything is that Guitar Rig's recorder is a poor excuse for a real dedicated looper for what we use it for. Workable but don't let that video scare you away. Setting that up in Mobius is a snap in comparison and you wouldn't have to use more than one instance of anything. Trust me. If you do non-linear video editing (Final Cut Pro?) You'd pick up Live and Mobius in less than an afternoon. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 07:47:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A873F3BE77; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1248162472; l=1384; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=8ZHdiXI92B4E5czp5A49hSne/UQ=; b=I/MfVqd0bmU4MXhoc+O4zCza+qEAo+GCXC4I6tQx+qWVCy69NiHL4wR7rHoYF3Kn0a3 UGEl1k6VOVsJ9jiuIWktl2Ls6ChAlH4st6yYmApnm59X9sCpdAnYjAUx/R+tWwAovm8wA EQ71p183SyfCakAbAl+zQi6m75q9OR/yKeI= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <006201ca09d8$0673aab0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <4A6457DB.2080702@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Guitar to Midi Converter Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:13:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Andy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 1:41 PM Subject: Re: Guitar to Midi Converter > > > Christo Jota wrote: > > Being a big fan of Fripp´s soundscapes, I´m always > > trying to get close to his orchestral sounds with my equipement. > > why????? > your own distinctive music is great > > > > > I don´t use computer software for my loopings, just hardware: > > RC 50 and the Boss GT 8 - effectprocessor for guitar, > > and Micro-Korg synthesizer, Roland MC 303 Groovebox which has some > > cool Synth sounds too. > > I would like to control the synth sounds of the Micro-Korg and MC 303 > > with my guitar- > > cause I´m a guitarist, not a keyboard player. > > I just noticed that there is this guitar-to-midi converter by Peterson > > Sonuus - G2M. > > I watched some you-tube videos and it looks quite well. I mean it just costs > > 98 Euros. The only thing that worries me is that it´s just monophonic , > > which > > means you can´t play chords with it, just single notes. > > What are your experiences with this converter? > > http://tinyurl.com/nmh6e7 > > > > Do you know a cheap > > alternative > > with polyphonic possibilities ? > > > second hand Yamaha G50 + Roland p/u > > > > > Christo > > andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 07:47:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCC533BE7E; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1248162472; l=7198; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:References:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=XJekz1OTd2TDh/9JiJj/AMuzp4c=; b=CBrSQGQIeUQi7O5ehbU4GYJJNKL4hZPz218G0hUBWudifcXbyk+Qx+0zyoIDywSGl2y 22y7R7M3noMqiuY26CfhfOJ10Ff4VUwre8uqfR0NbhBjshHWnmQRU4W/KIA4+djukLLOA LT6f+C/AZGYPZQ48JeMF3YSD6dOsAQ4Hxy0= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <006301ca09d8$06890770$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <480F2DD3-4F0B-4613-B915-57F7E047C251@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: Guitar to Midi Converter Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:15:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01CA09E3.BAEAD9E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:47:54 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01CA09E3.BAEAD9E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Watched it already. Sounds good! I guess I=B4m gonna check one out. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Matt Stevens=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: Re: Guitar to Midi Converter I got one - demo ere = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbiGHEN0DWFk&feature=3Dchannel_page They track ok but it depends on the sound really Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 20 Jul 2009, at 11:57, Christo Jota wrote: Being a big fan of Fripp=B4s soundscapes, I=B4m always trying to get close to his orchestral sounds with my equipement. I don=B4t use computer software for my loopings, just hardware: RC 50 and the Boss GT 8 - effectprocessor for guitar, and Micro-Korg synthesizer, Roland MC 303 Groovebox which has some cool Synth sounds too. I would like to control the synth sounds of the Micro-Korg and MC = 303 with my guitar- cause I=B4m a guitarist, not a keyboard player. I just noticed that there is this guitar-to-midi converter by = Peterson Sonuus - G2M. I watched some you-tube videos and it looks quite well. I mean it = just costs 98 Euros. The only thing that worries me is that it=B4s just = monophonic , which means you can=B4t play chords with it, just single notes. What are your experiences with this converter? Do you know a cheap = alternative with polyphonic possibilities ? Christo ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01CA09E3.BAEAD9E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Watched it already. Sounds good! I = guess I=B4m gonna=20 check
one out.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Matt Stevens
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 = 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: Guitar to Midi=20 Converter

I got one  - demo ere http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbiGHEN0DWFk&feature=3Dchanne= l_page

They=20 = track ok but it depends on the sound&n= bsp;really

Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
mattstevensguitar@btinte= rnet.com




On 20 Jul 2009, at 11:57, Christo Jota wrote:
Being a big fan of Fripp=B4s = soundscapes, I=B4m=20 always
trying to get close to his = orchestral sounds=20 with my equipement.
I don=B4t use computer software for = my loopings,=20 just hardware:
RC 50 and the Boss GT 8 - = effectprocessor for=20 guitar,
and Micro-Korg synthesizer, Roland = MC 303=20 Groovebox which has some
cool Synth sounds too.
I would like to control the synth = sounds of the=20 Micro-Korg and MC 303 with my guitar-
cause I=B4m a guitarist, not a = keyboard=20 player.
I just noticed that there is this=20 guitar-to-midi converter by Peterson Sonuus - G2M.
I watched some you-tube videos and = it looks=20 quite well. I mean it just costs
98 Euros. The only thing that = worries me is=20 that it=B4s just monophonic , which
means you can=B4t play chords with = it, just=20 single notes.
What are your experiences with this = converter?=20 Do you know a cheap alternative
with polyphonic possibilities = ?
 
Christo

------=_NextPart_000_0049_01CA09E3.BAEAD9E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 07:48:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A43D3BE73; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:48:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1248162473; l=2785; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=OdL2VVlMKHZ0BVC86mHgI4jL8kQ=; b=xZJxeNIUw/HGwlP7VMMoWBRPAiU78Lz8vtMX+7WukFqpOr4v4nmb7ycGUjTTV09RGfK JvoKtPfokbwpRZQ/KYgEqQ+ChmkCIU5wv0Z80uWIjvyntAnpqmr8bWwb5Sz0HNl1QwNBc LS/nBYlC+tR78wtyCCs4sSeTyOhE0hVa68Y= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <006401ca09d8$06a60550$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <480F2DD3-4F0B-4613-B915-57F7E047C251@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: Guitar to Midi Converter Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:21:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:48:02 +0000 (UTC) Yes, same with me. I used a Roland-Guitarsynthesizer for a long time and was not very happy with it. Latency problems and you have to play very clean , very accurate to avoid wrong tones etc. Also it was another additional equipement when playing live. Too much stuff isn´t good for me. I like to keep it simple (on stage and also at home). So I guess this small Peterson Sonuus - box could be a good compromise. CHRISTO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" To: Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 10:24 PM Subject: Re: Guitar to Midi Converter I spent years using Roland and Yamaha based MIDI guitar solutions with limited success. The best thing I ever played with (but never owned) was the Roland VG8, but that's not "MIDI" but instead uses the hex pickup's output as something to put effects on (mostly amp models) and not to trigger a synth. Anyway, it always just felt to me like someone nagging me to sit up straight and stop mumbling. What if slouchy mumbling is my style? ;) In the end I found that with a small amount of practice I was able to get around on the keyboard in a fashion that actually worked better than any guitar to midi solution. I didn't take to it right away though, it was only after I played with a Novation controller that actually had nice feeling aftertouch built in that I really took to it. Now I can't imagine using anything else. M On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Matt Stevens wrote: > I got one - demo > ere http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biGHEN0DWFk&feature=channel_page > They track ok but it depends on the sound really > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > On 20 Jul 2009, at 11:57, Christo Jota wrote: > > Being a big fan of Fripp´s soundscapes, I´m always > trying to get close to his orchestral sounds with my equipement. > I don´t use computer software for my loopings, just hardware: > RC 50 and the Boss GT 8 - effectprocessor for guitar, > and Micro-Korg synthesizer, Roland MC 303 Groovebox which has some > cool Synth sounds too. > I would like to control the synth sounds of the Micro-Korg and MC 303 with > my guitar- > cause I´m a guitarist, not a keyboard player. > I just noticed that there is this guitar-to-midi converter by Peterson > Sonuus - G2M. > I watched some you-tube videos and it looks quite well. I mean it just costs > 98 Euros. The only thing that worries me is that it´s just monophonic , > which > means you can´t play chords with it, just single notes. > What are your experiences with this converter? Do you know a cheap > alternative > with polyphonic possibilities ? > > Christo > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 10:27:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A31EB3BE77; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:27:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ce708b4f-8ab9-4be0-b767-70ddfc7f7335_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: Echoplex EDP Woes - fluttering, flickering and intermittent power up! Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:27:23 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jul 2009 10:27:23.0798 (UTC) FILETIME=[D622BB60:01CA09ED] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:27:24 +0000 (UTC) --_ce708b4f-8ab9-4be0-b767-70ddfc7f7335_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable as one of the people on this list who seems to have the most technical prob= lems with my echoplexes (see ongoing grounding hum issue) i think i might b= e able to help. =20 i had this behaviour once when a stick of ram went bad =2C i diagnosed it b= y first deracking and opening my edp..then with the mains off taking all th= e ram modules and the loop v4 (or v3 whatever) chips out....be gentle and w= iggle them from both sides... once they are out remount them with a careful= lining up of the legs and a firm push into the sockets... =20 the next step is so add in just ONE stick of ram...turn it on=2C see if it = works..if it does..good you have diagnosed the issue...if not try the next= =2C work through until all ram sticks have been eliminated =20 then go by some more ram =20 hope that helps =20 Phill MyOneManBand =20 > Date: Mon=2C 20 Jul 2009 00:04:08 -0400 > From: vaneyck@sympatico.ca > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Echoplex EDP Woes - fluttering=2C flickering and intermittent po= wer up! >=20 >=20 > Hi again=2C >=20 > Thanks to the list members for all the help so far! I hate to=20 > interrupt the much more interesting conversations for this dull=20 > technical bit=2C but here it goes anyway... >=20 > I have yet another issue with my new (used) Echoplex EDP: >=20 > The unit has been powering up intermittently=2C and now it won't power=20 > up at all. The front panel lights flutter and flash intermittently and=20 > then the unit goes black. It did this when I first got it=2C and then I=20 > pressed all the socketed IC's down into the board=2C and this seemed to=20 > fix the problem for a short time=2C and now it's back with a vengeance. >=20 > Has anyone experienced this before? Is there a fix? >=20 > Any help is greatly appreciated. >=20 > Thanks very much=2C >=20 > TREVOR. >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and emot= icons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/= --_ce708b4f-8ab9-4be0-b767-70ddfc7f7335_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable as one of the people on this list who seems to have the most technical prob= lems with my echoplexes (see ongoing grounding hum issue) i think i might b= e able to help.
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i had this behaviour once when a stick of ram went bad =2C i diagnosed it b= y first deracking and opening my edp..then with the mains off taking all th= e ram modules and the loop v4 (or v3 whatever) =3Bchips out....be gentl= e and wiggle them from both sides... once they are out remount them with a = careful lining up of the legs and a firm push into the sockets...
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Get Them Now = --_ce708b4f-8ab9-4be0-b767-70ddfc7f7335_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 11:25:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60A9A3BE71; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xAanABbCsOWS1HE078lT+j9Ae3JqbydT4Qistkjf5A0=; b=mzw5h4I1ucuQ5QYYkVN4fk3v2U577kXaBpDA2cfLHGiVUU3ipIOIn0YTSfqiWQ/rIY wGlfACtCpG41VZxDZQXfw0Pg5Wd/+kVnPldR4QQzKosqzEn44SyL5+ZkUAg5D/RxHZak SmV42TIa7CHXvaBsNAAnzd7UnjG8MKG+NIX3A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VBaGB6zRlHLNCq2zm6Z/nRM1qEKm25/zi7G5Sehso+/njM0JqwZk40DvXXOXahW1fQ RvKCeS1ja+WJvQ50BZRQXndiAo1JemBgjuFKonHQSi7cepnD7HnTSPrNKd2jd81j+BHR hMQXCv6sctXYLMMXPG4t9ZbImuS34GqzPj2+Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <6415FB97-0AC4-4192-BD2C-ECCA31DB3263@earthlink.net> <66f9cc1e0907181446s979d6c7jfd27a6fc41699227@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:25:24 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907210425t632958f5h4461ea66779fefbb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Cool_MacUpdate_Audio_Promo_this_weekend=E2=80=A6?= From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:25:25 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Mark Sottilaro wro= te: > I hope a lot of people took advantage of this one. =C2=A0I'm going to > experiment putting it post Mobius a little later to see what craziness > can ensue. I did that yesterday, with the fab filters. Very fun! But not an option for me to take on stage until laptops become stronger, since both Vulcano and Timeless are too CPU demanding. All my light weight Logic/Mainstage plug-ins are complaining "this lappy ain't big enough for both-of-us!!!" But do love their sonic characteristics and will definitely use them in studio productions. I also liked the soft-synth Twin2 for EWI playing. It generally gives a fatter and ruder tone than many other virtual instruments. I reckon someone could call them "analog sounding" ;-) Twin2 also too CPU demanding for the stage but an awesome Screaming Tekno Pig to unleash in a safe studio area. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 11:37:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F00353BE77; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:37:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:37:53 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <3B00DC2CFC8B47D8888D7C75DE42AAB0@a> Message-ID: <20090721113753.297010@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4AC1854B4C75433B9C525E489D0C79D8@williamsteed> <20090719065455.7obqiqjjwcgws0s0@mail.kevinkissinger.com> <3B00DC2CFC8B47D8888D7C75DE42AAB0@a> Subject: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19737J8ZNJ7tz0oRT0DmD/eiLJ5f61Bb1mdF8eH9S px/cCTFG2wxA91Z9Y6NQdmWPc+RQ02BRGsbQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: qZpWfm89X1V6dp12l2BySAt/SDc4NMwT X-FuHaFi: 0.74 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:37:58 +0000 (UTC) Jeez, guys... Don't know anything about the issue. It just looks a bit weird on the LD list - sort of like these freaky reality shows on TV. Maybe instead of Looping Festivals, we should introduce "Looper Battles" - street-stlye, like beatboxers do... peace Buzap -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 11:57:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 349E63BE78; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:57:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:57:32 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <2AC8D7DD-D1E7-49F8-AFDA-3AEA7D684AFA@charter.net> Message-ID: <20090721115732.297040@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2AC8D7DD-D1E7-49F8-AFDA-3AEA7D684AFA@charter.net> Subject: Re: why we founded this list To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+PUm5B++ePelr3Pd1d8rm/ARHNskD1Mv/NO7vyzg epE2qD/grkVP6CXiNUwpJGObyUVwGaYoKcKw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: GphXcj9HPjl+dpwvzTQ2Fnc7MTE2NYkB X-FuHaFi: 0.71 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:57:37 +0000 (UTC) > Thanks for restating some of the history of this list > and reasserting some of your and Kim's vision for it. Yes, thank you!! Though I've preferred to spend less time in mailing lists recently, I really love this list. It's - that means the people here: YOU - have been a great inspiration, not only looping-wise but related to all facets of music and the role of music in my life. I've used to prefer a forum, but got used to the mailing list format and I like reading all these various mailings I would not look at otherwise :) thanks folks - and don't hit each other too hard ;-) Best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 13:17:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F18D3BE73; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:17:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248182258; bh=LBoQFEkEGTvcTW/Eha4aX1HFyEO1gdZgRt3Mr/3Y8g0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DzlfyALRcUbBIGheA0udGKmRF69sxWzlLjen67UaqcVe5o4hgnSZGDTwspIjuLEP0YMVa7+Hf6IasmRntkuHBCrixytV6NDRm6S1xAx4OvXv51lJB+nLDs98su8QrGC19y94pxmb4R3zbPBD4qsz9+JsyY5kxBUAUANoP3GkuJg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=exdyeuk9PCu9XFtB/DaE9y8vWqB+20MfFLOgo8QNi1i3pX1g/jmDLGp357+mDiVX390+jbm1Lbuu81KI7E3/FgjY2xrD203ESZl5UpS0b0Nri5LsSAOpb7KsetWj8aGlhI2HPsM/97NoUw34JqZRQe6ERTkQ3YZy71kJojrCYv0=; Message-ID: <997272.47717.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:17:38 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <8T8DdD.A.LmE.0_bZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:17:40 +0000 (UTC) Buzap is normal this loops once in a while as well=0A"einbischen spass muss= sein"=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Buzap Buzap schrieb am Di, 21.7.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Buzap Buzap =0A= > Betreff: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker=0A> An: Loope= rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Dienstag, 21. Juli 2009, 4:37=0A>= Jeez, guys...=0A> Don't know anything about the issue. It just looks a bit= =0A> weird on the LD list - sort of like these freaky reality=0A> shows on = TV.=0A> =0A> Maybe instead of Looping Festivals, we should introduce=0A> "L= ooper Battles" - street-stlye, like beatboxers do...=0A> =0A> peace=0A> Buz= ap=0A> =0A> -- =0A> Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und= =0A> Mozilla Firefox 3 -=0A> sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://port= al.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 13:49:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5AA43BE79; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 233578308/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.200.242/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.200.242 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsABALNjZUpPRsjy/2dsb2JhbAAI0UKEDAWJZg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,240,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="233578308" Message-ID: <4A65CAE4.1090308@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:04:20 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Guitar to Midi Converter References: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <480F2DD3-4F0B-4613-B915-57F7E047C251@btinternet.com> <006401ca09d8$06a60550$0201a8c0@Toshiba> In-Reply-To: <006401ca09d8$06a60550$0201a8c0@Toshiba> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Christo Jota wrote: > Yes, same with me. I used a Roland-Guitarsynthesizer for a long time and was > not very happy with it. Latency problems and you have to play very clean , > very accurate to avoid wrong tones etc. hmmm, I never tried the Roland stuff, definitely the G2M has noticeable latency, more than the Axon/Yamaha G2 but indeed, it's impressively resistant against the warbling that plagues other converters. Of course, being monophonic you do need good damping technique. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 14:11:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C1063BE79; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A65CAE4.1090308@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Guitar to Midi Converter Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:11:15 -0700 References: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <480F2DD3-4F0B-4613-B915-57F7E047C251@btinternet.com> <006401ca09d8$06a60550$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <4A65CAE4.1090308@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I've spent several years using Roland GR synth gear and actually have GK pickups on a number of my guitars. When it comes to tracking, yes there are issues concerning how cleanly one picks and frets the notes on their instrument. There are also issues from instrument to instrument - no matter how well you set up the hex pickup, some instruments still seem to track slightly better than others. I think there are some guitars that are just not good candidates for this stuff - but my experience is not extensive enough to say what the factors involved actually are. Within the last year or two I've added a VG-99 to my kit as well. In addition to having the all the usual VG advantages (tracking wise) the VG-99 also has pitch-to-MIDI conversion capabilities. These I have not made use of yet - but they're there as an option. I still have an old GR-1EX that I have used forever and am very satisfied with. If I really needed pitch-to-MIDI I expect it would be more convenient to use that. There are a lot of options out there though from other companies. Best, Ted Killian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 14:59:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC7C63BE75; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 229650870/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.200.242/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.200.242 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsABAJN0ZUpPRsjy/2dsb2JhbAAI0iGEDAWJZg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,240,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="229650870" Message-ID: <4A65DB43.2080509@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:14:11 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: how is the livelooping style References: <4C550AD4-0FA1-4999-8F99-5D94CA49A1D0@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C550AD4-0FA1-4999-8F99-5D94CA49A1D0@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Matthias Grob wrote: >>Ty wrote >>> First just what is live looping. It would seem that it defines the >>> gear we use and that we use it live like an instrument. >> > and Andy: >> ahhh, >> >> If you care to check out some of the music made by list >> members you'll find that your description of the "continuum" > > ... yes, Andy? > you are one of the early if not the first adopter of the livelooping > genre... what do you think? > > Genre is a difficult question, my current favourite genre classification is "post-post-core", gleaned, of course, from the pages of Wire magazine. No idea what that means at all :-) ...but it does point out the central facts about genre, imo that is:- it's decided by music journalists. Well maybe a record company with a big budget can also contribute, but it's not really musicians who decide such things. It's also not decided by academics, a dissertation is hardly ever published and may well only be ever read for marking, which is it's raison d'etre. The reason I use the term "livelooping" to describe my music is that it doesn't fit into any available genre. It seems appropriate because it depends pretty heavily on the live looping technology to give it it's form. The alternative is "guitar music", and I've often done gigs which were billed as guitar gigs rather than livelooping. Anyway, if any of us want to establish "livelooping" as a genre I think we need to target music journalists. If the term is used enough in press releases, websites and even letters to the press then who knows, it may stick. Probably it doesn't matter so much how we define the music. Repetition, lack of key change, lack of complex fills, trance ...etc.. doesn't apply to livelooping more than it does to a great many established genres. With improving technology livelooping will become less and less about the repetition of a single figure. Perhaps we should say we are "humanizing the technology", or some such soundbite. If it's possible to define accurately what sets "livelooping" apart, and I suspect it is, then I doubt that the definition would be comprehensible to music journalists ( maybe that's harsh, but I've read a lot of insights based on misread sleeve notes). andy butler ...and another question not answered but sidestepped ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 21 15:00:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CF263BE7C; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:00:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 380 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:00:06 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jwiMgVkzjmv6/XMgiSRTi0qtd5e+dJdyf5/g5z+8ONs=; b=lNiR9iEculZpoWsrY0esE9J5gRBrzIynLXypezl18gvxcOpAXE+FlG7BerUzyiEd+N sYT6ze7D50GUiJFqWwSxoPn0jgt2qJG+LyQgTSgrg98hhIjR9Fu67Q+qjYjsAMEP+Xbd jJwgpWu2etyrdGZElraX0pzQnrYipptwpx+Cg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=s0CZ+jjNUrrBVODquNstaGNwaCKe+sxOVmFey+g/yLdDvC7qBf5dkItJpqag5efnJA gzp9+v1NPQKSPFX/mJVCo35xyGuZbLqZDwTN+QU+vEGN3B4ib13Y8/SSC1pcgmgIXM6m Y7kJxyveCwBPnrbiObMhQXqSZzQlzi3ejzhJY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090721115732.297040@gmx.net> References: <2AC8D7DD-D1E7-49F8-AFDA-3AEA7D684AFA@charter.net> <20090721115732.297040@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:53:43 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30907210753m1934931sed33996b7417ec6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: why we founded this list From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:00:06 +0000 (UTC) We're keepin' it mellow . . . no more violent than your usual UFC or hockey game. Chill man! -m > thanks folks - and don't hit each other too hard ;-) > Best regards > > Buzap -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" 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------=_NextPart_000_012B_01C2A9A6.194FF8AA-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 00:41:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A5573BE81; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HG2NqlkNUW7wLErcPitEtvLpgAfT2sKpVL3Ji25o9JA=; b=euclz4jE182E0eIspIK0IpeKkn08FKNLILcniHSzH7wYPWDyvj73gDlxxQVYyw8Cmc /NFaPkD3cAicWdywBnx8mzmCiXxO/CLCRDt1e8oXN/TSVDDkZ4Ud8Jz2zG7JVTqYhYpd rROTOZzQOMkNOjnRjUePAC1swo2xasTMXMvPg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ach2tFrIV5yOnyVlairS719UQkGkeksAmYDp5PnTOE/6Z96Fo7pBEksy+HwI7J57Zw UWu6Axvh469Hhyb9Khkkflf4u1iZgeVgaKv0/6g0SCzaaSKptjePRSpaxniOov4Y3nZF 65ld1iL8VpvIytQwkrJ5BFUdk0dIcMSQaID0k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A6637D4.6050101@flyloops.com> References: <4A6637D4.6050101@flyloops.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:41:27 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907211741h1747088xba8d33266ebd75ef@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Loopers forum.. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:41:28 +0000 (UTC) I'm not against a livelooping forum. I just don't have enough time for it. Sorting all incoming according to projects, lists and contacts by mail boxes is what saves my ass daily. Per Boysen On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Aaron Leese wrot= e: > > > Yeah, I know it. =C2=A0I was just over there today as well. > Unfortunately, traffic is generally rather low, and some people on this l= ist > have been rather against the idea of a looping forum in the past ... not > sure why. =C2=A0Also, I think Kim still watches this list, but LD doesn't= get > updated much. =C2=A0A few more links on there would be great. > > this one could use a bump too .... great URL, too bad there's not more > there. > > http://www.livelooping.org/ > > > Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> >> So the other day I find out there's this: >> >> http://loopingmusic.proboards.com/ >> >> I'd been wanting something like that for years! >> >> Is there a reason that there's no link on the LD webpage? =C2=A0Judging = by >> the success of forums like KVRaudio.com I think something like this >> forum could really appeal to people like me that prefer their loopchat >> in a forum form. >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 01:12:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B89603BE80; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:12:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <4C82C7EC-EEA5-4056-88EF-1851BB3DDD82@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:12:20 -0700 References: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:12:25 +0000 (UTC) Rick Wrote, On Jul 21, 2009, at 5:22 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I'm just loving a few things that I'm listening to right now > and not only wanted to share them with you all but wanted > to know what people are currently listening to. > What are you guys and gals listening too? Right this very minute: Bill Frisell - "Disfarmer" (my copy just =20 arrived today) In the car coming home: Ali Farka Tour=E9 & Toumani Diabet=E9 - "In The =20= Heart Of The Moon" At work all day (via iTunes), lots of random selections in the "world =20= mucic" genre from: Salif Keita _"Mouffu" Sierra Leone's Refugee All-Stars "Living Like a Refugee" Ali Farka Tour=E9 & Ry Cooder: Talking Timbuktu Kronos Quartet: "Pieces of Africa" Jean-Luc Ponty: "Tchokola" Choying Drolma And Steve Tibbetts - "Ch=F6" Various artists - Nordic Roots, Volumes 1, 2 & 3 Knut Hamre & Steve Tibbets - "=C5" Melanesian Choirs - The Blessed Islands (Chants from The Thin Red Line) Jon Hassell - "Power Spot" Sigur Ros - "Me=F0 Su=F0 =CD Eyrum Vi=F0 Spilum Endalaust It's sort of funny . . . I just recently noticed on several of these CDs that the name of list =20= member, Jean-Philippe Rykiel, turns up quite a few times in the =20 musical "personnel" in this genre. And that was just the 8 hours I was at work today . . . The day before it was a Leo Kottke, Roy Buchanan and Eivind Aarset =20 fest (you can't say I don't have broad tastes). Cheers, Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 01:13:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B0F93BE7C; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:13:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Lamb, Jason" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:13:31 -0500 Subject: Unsubscribe Thread-Topic: Unsubscribe Thread-Index: AcoKaaCI1zkgACTJTh+YySkcwhmYvg== Message-ID: <1B04B2C819775D41B1B25B3A7985181D09DCC6D2E9@HICGWSEX01.ad.harman.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2009 01:13:33.0249 (UTC) FILETIME=[A1991B10:01CA0A69] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:13:36 +0000 (UTC) DQotLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQ0KU2VudCB1c2luZyBCbGFja0JlcnJ5DQo= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 01:18:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 744333BE7C; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LX8oBI3iRsJnTLdDHeJb5QcudQ1EbhSMlYsu6A3Tmv4=; b=ubqsV1iMtdo9NFhwJxOexexKvOLNxA44OyvHOTtexfsKV2DJD+JgBx5f2j1GtcZIDT 7GsVOk+fTbRfHBKmQz9JieFVEHAiwSIcoPHffVGlkLi5WIFTYyX4nWrHVMLA/DZYIwsl opVpS4y84/tEhIvK2tGvZea935kHP+kkCSlSw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nD7t7beC3gtN2UT3r3CXEmONlu8HLjJ70rXNEn0qcXURd4K99BS86gfuc/uD8+YF49 1gELYOmgO5pjlRE8SClZKl1VcS0Hiu+SlZtkoQC6KaR2sXXLenuiNXqXu1Sw6Fme3Hux bRaJ6rAtePUOtLQ8stW0XrufaoLsv1IivqZgU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907211741h1747088xba8d33266ebd75ef@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A6637D4.6050101@flyloops.com> <66f9cc1e0907211741h1747088xba8d33266ebd75ef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:18:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loopers forum.. From: Raul Bonell To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:18:39 +0000 (UTC) 2009/7/22, Per Boysen : > I'm not against a livelooping forum. I just don't have enough time for > it. Sorting all incoming according to projects, lists and contacts by > mail boxes is what saves my ass daily. .. and that saved ass help us gently everyday .. you rock swede! > Per Boysen > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Aaron Leese > wrote: >> >> >> Yeah, I know it. I was just over there today as well. >> Unfortunately, traffic is generally rather low, and some people on this >> list >> have been rather against the idea of a looping forum in the past ... not >> sure why. Also, I think Kim still watches this list, but LD doesn't get >> updated much. A few more links on there would be great. >> >> this one could use a bump too .... great URL, too bad there's not more >> there. >> >> http://www.livelooping.org/ >> >> >> Mark Sottilaro wrote: >>> >>> So the other day I find out there's this: >>> >>> http://loopingmusic.proboards.com/ >>> >>> I'd been wanting something like that for years! >>> >>> Is there a reason that there's no link on the LD webpage? Judging by >>> the success of forums like KVRaudio.com I think something like this >>> forum could really appeal to people like me that prefer their loopchat >>> in a forum form. >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 01:31:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A09723BE79; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OE66t8Ao+P61lSbmxqKDtHdMG4zlRgbbO3WtGpOTfH8=; b=g72pDzTQ1NwLyQRAHNLxGpBzRILJ4bxk31r/rIFTJlOVf9n3wz9w901QBqkddG/895 11Lvfi9J3sb3ZXeVFGGMbUJv1SA07N7g0h548qdCUHB+fctiigI9wpbh/AhA1igeqKeU sH+2bzR+nLdkpxxTxVQ7Tdsl3x4QWeiLJQNRA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ANFTDevt3OnMFsuXuvGHSlihFS+4aUsdXK/pNbkxjOjL6bH732svOpOe+aW7GM4gw7 +z28BlG7+fRR8clIQm8+5b3x0hgLmrR3ts1/Ec+Q+hb4iKIV8rkokunhr+N+8KwaWvDi BGRekcKlVvyh1kNIfwoYIJIL2SAIgzJJlWyO4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4C82C7EC-EEA5-4056-88EF-1851BB3DDD82@charter.net> References: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> <4C82C7EC-EEA5-4056-88EF-1851BB3DDD82@charter.net> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:31:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:31:11 +0000 (UTC) ... i've just felt in love recently with pop/rock/indie band "blonde redhead" ... this mixed with a bits of steve jansen's "slope", buckethead's first "colma", CT-ReUse, argentinian crafty related trio *big time*, dejohnette, bailey, and the bunch of LD members files i've downloaded... i'm on vacation, what did you expect? :-)) 2009/7/22, tEd =AE KiLLiAn : > Rick Wrote, > > On Jul 21, 2009, at 5:22 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > >> I'm just loving a few things that I'm listening to right now >> and not only wanted to share them with you all but wanted >> to know what people are currently listening to. > >> What are you guys and gals listening too? > > Right this very minute: Bill Frisell - "Disfarmer" (my copy just > arrived today) > > In the car coming home: Ali Farka Tour=E9 & Toumani Diabet=E9 - "In The > Heart Of The Moon" > > At work all day (via iTunes), lots of random selections in the "world > mucic" genre from: > > Salif Keita _"Mouffu" > > Sierra Leone's Refugee All-Stars "Living Like a Refugee" > > Ali Farka Tour=E9 & Ry Cooder: Talking Timbuktu > > Kronos Quartet: "Pieces of Africa" > > Jean-Luc Ponty: "Tchokola" > > Choying Drolma And Steve Tibbetts - "Ch=F6" > > Various artists - Nordic Roots, Volumes 1, 2 & 3 > > Knut Hamre & Steve Tibbets - "=C5" > > Melanesian Choirs - The Blessed Islands (Chants from The Thin Red Line) > > Jon Hassell - "Power Spot" > > Sigur Ros - "Me=F0 Su=F0 =CD Eyrum Vi=F0 Spilum Endalaust > > It's sort of funny . . . > > I just recently noticed on several of these CDs that the name of list > member, Jean-Philippe Rykiel, turns up quite a few times in the > musical "personnel" in this genre. > > And that was just the 8 hours I was at work today . . . > > The day before it was a Leo Kottke, Roy Buchanan and Eivind Aarset > fest (you can't say I don't have broad tastes). > > Cheers, > > Ted > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 01:42:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69DC43BE75; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:42:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=EalLuLiAizNYH+6D96CZU1YJjge+PSjLX8oII/kkZXflMgamUF7ik36Sv+tyMilg; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <23918615.1248226953814.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:42:33 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd4863a13527f91adeebab4428c2962b0daf387f7b89c61deb1d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.31 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:42:34 +0000 (UTC) ----Original Message----- >From: Rick Walker > >What are you guys and gals listening too? 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 01:54:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DDDF3BE79; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=hQRTUDRTYROdixT7ZHuyOqms82/ysWIWb/yxG/IiE8Q=; b=HCaydAXIgdS5eFJ6sD5K3JPvo6yuoBBWveFZ2pw7Lo6GvlDIr8usZ6wrNVoGxuqRUQ oLZ94bv28nRiNt5TPagU/7UEcAecjjGADx63yBm5Xrxi6+6Kf6Yl4goTTIxrebRfIBu9 xB1h9/efMKlsdXCiukvQQpgliu6xu3hpODbZo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=jMfco/tjSiOH43/FCZDt6C2eP+aQ42PCZnubP/SltTYnwnCDuEQmgOXKcRb5u5Cb/C HjgUgAZPBCr8YT1iPEIADgRit6M2WIDvRZtUW/rJcjlkdNm3qxPvOcCr+xVjiR0pRE0U wDc2u4004nqbCs55rsd/pljaKVwdxge+kRZQo= Message-Id: From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--662476024 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:54:23 -0300 References: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <6YTIMD.A.KkB.UFnZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:54:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--662476024 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just can't believe what an amazingly inspiring, beautifully composed =20= and wonderfully played cd it's Tiny Resistors by Todd Sickafoose's =20 great band (including two REAL interesting guitarists as Adam Levy and =20= Mike Gamble). I can't recommend that cd enough. El 21/07/2009, a las 21:22, Rick Walker escribi=F3: > > > What are you guys and gals listening too? > --Apple-Mail-1--662476024 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just can't believe what = an amazingly inspiring, beautifully composed and wonderfully played cd = it's Tiny Resistors by Todd Sickafoose's great band (including two REAL = interesting guitarists as Adam Levy and Mike = Gamble).

I can't recommend that cd = enough. 

El 21/07/2009, a las 21:22, Rick Walker = escribi=F3:


What are you = guys and gals listening = too?


= --Apple-Mail-1--662476024-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 01:55:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 282CE3BE78; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4wLVKdHi+dq5dMwY7eN51Yrjw4vEsnc/L59bdfrGpIM=; b=Ngumgtx429bB2Zk9E/Cl1pax8u4S0UToPfUyY2u0rJ0rHQ6so9Kl/9wrx1wd+261+f Xd0N7x7f5Fa4m63+YKuY2mJ7ww+jxFNHCLtLQF1QpSd/5kG3bt7mwXdsHJVG0U+cE3i5 mZhNyOQwl+mqDQnODEGgouxZOEn8YwGLRM/g4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NRPv3eXF5zg56VcmW1io6l+5662a17jpp/bEt/pNBQ+iTA/iAvi7eK0/IEoVWWhX66 wVWPzGg7mWiy5wCMu0r1IPpYuAQ9JcahfsxJPhRXxtS2pYS7A7Y//lvP1vRuNM5ntM5A 3Ahzhq1ueWdzxljeh8anW4b0R/B7zmUU0Go30= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907211854uf5f9e9exacf7b194e579e741@mail.gmail.com> References: <23918615.1248226953814.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <66f9cc1e0907211854uf5f9e9exacf7b194e579e741@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:55:46 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907211855r5b0c250fsb24e27ff61dee813@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Radio documentaries. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 01:55:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0E7C3BE84; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:55:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=zoipXUeaG3OAvGi7KM0BchHf5QXZ0BpBVkHgRTEepK0=; b=KlIFdRxwirgtV9wYsCfF+qX+mslG3By/iHtS91zX0LFy6705oQ8z+MTKyIHsx6y7Zc zBHWrIvgX0bpDQvASKdzWtO51XGO3OUuUcOAbAsC9SGBN3qAHE5jP+F8syRTXytoWsUL 9+4FezeZeKc3kPnmjJoMtpyvH/cjXpgmlR4L0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=D8swFpyXmBm072VVD4CdiPxRKmBBH8XChbnrK1UawjMG0XrcI7MD72vf3qKkXj2IVQ VpKRWoMcqSIQqrOh/jtKYXODO21K8/hDVK9KUtNbVkQdB1e609SG+puR6J2uqpUwuC+u mUpscVq7ZAU5LB2IQTKzTLKJjfNduMO2uYDnQ= Message-Id: From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907211714m4f60ffcdn106bef638868f9c1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: How to use moebius and guitar rig together Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:47:36 -0300 References: <4A65E24C.904@het.it> <96582D16-7FAD-467D-865A-C133F84B4E22@gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907211714m4f60ffcdn106bef638868f9c1@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <81yhfB.A.rsB.oGnZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:55:52 +0000 (UTC) Exactly. Lots of routing options, in fact, a nice "pro" virtual mixer. Besides, it has a transport (like any other daw) wich suits very well =20= the needs of my beat sinc plugins (even with guitar). I've never used =20= it in a performance situation but, on the other hand, it's been =20 working great on rehearsals. AU Lab, in my experience, it's a great "live use" app for when i need =20= something simple and light on resources for my guitar rig - mobius (or =20= sooperlooper) setup (with auxiliar sends for suppatrigga and other =20 audio mangling goods). Very best, Ariel. El 21/07/2009, a las 21:14, Per Boysen escribi=F3: > Interresting! So AU Lab is working well for you, Ariel? > > It is in fact a "miniature Logic" provided developers that create AU > plug-ins and need to test functionalities in a simple host. 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------=_NextPart_000_0097_01C2A9A6.282C0514-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 03:19:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D61EE3BE75; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:19:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=atz7fK52VEz2UER0B5xa6ZzXTcgOveG8om49jh13ydY=; b=uXbEm8RtHijUzV7zo0m+of130jTaYrtn5NBwDzI0nHI3401is1VtRQ3HUR1ct5xr6I WlGY9ts61trhAx7HrOVr1ht/T6HNPCAa4aNdOHeEIsSWAzGQl0+PpJ2aW5ajquuUjP2S 9HdxCO6BV29SgUq21dMiiOhe8Fui138zcpMGo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qCku1UV+s/0sXMJVfDKGQv0MLK6jkjpfXnSZAOL5ZFroXgDMTW72Sp0MNUdA8gOOyM Fv7PxUiPvWoYRv0RGMj3qdIJm2DPzuUu/3SQiLwkFfV2qMdM3joGaaj0i9NxN+HfilVK yGoVKqI8rk+MO/31TSNEyn/mzGS2Wp0yXDTs4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907211855r5b0c250fsb24e27ff61dee813@mail.gmail.com> References: <23918615.1248226953814.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <66f9cc1e0907211854uf5f9e9exacf7b194e579e741@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907211855r5b0c250fsb24e27ff61dee813@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:19:36 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907212019j30a77e98r713bbcb2abb577bd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a49039c11a046f42d7ea Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:19:38 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a49039c11a046f42d7ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow this is a really neat thread that I don't recall has been put out there. These days queued on iPod are... 1) Catherine Todd, a Windham Hillish but slightly darker and more interesting solo pianist who found Chinapainting as a by chance and struck up correspondence with Daryl and I. Over time I would up encouraging to record her music something that she initially wasn't confident in but in time she did in deed do that. I've been listening to a series of pieces of her's from that recorded energy, http://www.last.fm/music/Catherine+Todd . 2) Our own Jeff Duke. His Wait sessions released back in the spring. Some wonderful tones, feelings and energy and a real fav of mine from this series plays on my southern roots. Titled 'I Really Shouldn't Be Here' is a mixed audio media piece fusing an old secretly recored narrative of a somewhat minister/herion addict doing his spin on the book of Revelation. Jeff took that and embellished with a lovely bed of Dukish tones. I really can't say enough good about this track, it so much reminds me of a time in Arkansas when I played with some pentecostal musicians, you might call them holy rollers, very carismatic folks full of emotion, faith, zeal, music of course and a tad crazy to most. http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ 3) Ralph Towner, what can I say. Major influence to me as much as my earlier influence from the late Michael Hedges. I seriously committed to the guitar late by most standards, mid 20's. So did Ralph this has always been major encouraging to me. This is his live ECM solo recording think it's just called Solo from late 70's or early 80's. This one may be out of print I can't locate the link, I have the cd but tonight I can't locate it however I had ripped the trax sometime back. 4) My bud in Chinapainting, Daryl's most recent solo release Body of a Poet. Great rhythmic, precise, emotional, slightly Los Loboish, slightly Gypsy Kings but all Daryl, solo acoustic and fat. Fav's are Despertada por la Madrugada, Craquelure and Drink the Desert. http://darylshawn.bandcamp.com. 5) another ECM fav, given to me by a guitar student of mine when he learned I had bought an oud. This mix of solo oud and trio (oud, violin and percussion) is a killer. The artist is Anouar Brahem and the record is Barzakh. This one seems out of print as well but here's the link on Ecm about him http://www.ecmrecords.com/Catalogue/ECM/1900/1915.php?lvredir=712&catid=0&doctype=Catalogue&order=releasedate&we_search=%2BAnouar+%2BBrahem&rubchooser=901&mainrubchooser=9 6) A gentleman some of you know who live in the Bay area. I discovered him as a fluke when I was there on weekend in 1992, this etheral ringing music from nearly a block away down by the Fisherman's Wharf. Drew closer to see this guy hammering on what appeared a hammered dulcimer on acid on some kind of table make shift way of getting it round. Enter Michael Masley, street musician of many years in SF and just amazes me. Fast fwd 10 years, I was leaving the Anaheim Convention Center at NAMM and was walking through the trees and hear this same haunting music and I knew it was 'him'. Got closer and there was Michael, this time we chatted, hung out a bit and have since been in touch thankfully. Rick I highly recommend to get this guy to come to Loopfest though he doesn't use the technology perse he is just an amazing creative inventive artist and several on the list will echo this I think. The tunes on my ipod are from his Cymbalom Solos CD http://www.artistgeneral.com/Cymbsolo.html 7) Steve Tibbetts, another ECM fav, he did a series of really great landscapish records in the 80's, this one is wonderful, Big Map Idea. http://www.ecmrecords.com/Catalogue/ECM/1300/1380.php?cat=&we_start=0&lvredir=712&we_search=%2BTibbetts 8) From my fretless guitar community (http://www.unfretted.com) a guy I met last fall when I played at the NYC Fretless Guitar Festival, Neil Haverstack aka Stickman, great dude and doing some wonderful fretless creations, this CD Mysterious Female, http://microstick.net/ 9) This one is for 'fun', Patti Smith Gung Ho. All Patti maybe a bit more mellow less angry somewhat dark but 'lived'. Fav track 'Lo and Beholden', http://www.amazon.com/Gung-Ho-Patti-Smith/dp/B00004RCYB and not to be too self righteous but some of my own stuff, my Vertical release from the 2009 RPM month, the ReUse record I produced this past spring for CT-Collective and Chinapainting's studio CD Night Blooming Cereus, many good memories on this one but again not to be self serving here. these are at http://jimgoodin.bandcamp.com should you be curious. Man I love these kind of threads, love everyone's details about their thoughts on what they're spinning. Good thread Rick. Best Jim On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Radio documentaries. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se, > www.perboysen.com > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a49039c11a046f42d7ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow this is a really neat thread that I don't recall has been put out t= here. =A0These days queued on iPod are...

1) Catherine T= odd, a Windham Hillish but slightly darker and more interesting solo pianis= t who found =A0Chinapainting as a by chance and struck up correspondence wi= th Daryl and I. =A0Over time I would up encouraging to record her music som= ething that she initially wasn't confident in but in time she did in de= ed do that. =A0I've been listening to a series of pieces of her's f= rom that recorded energy,=A0http://www.last.fm/music/Catherine+Todd .

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3) Ralph = Towner, what can I say. =A0Major influence to me as much as my earlier infl= uence from the late Michael Hedges. =A0I seriously committed to the guitar = late by most standards, mid 20's. =A0So did Ralph this has always been = major encouraging to me. =A0This is his live ECM solo recording think it= 9;s just called Solo from late 70's or early 80's. =A0This one may = be out of print I can't locate the link, I have the cd but tonight I ca= n't locate it however I had ripped the trax sometime back.

4) My bud in Chinapainting, Daryl's most recent sol= o release Body of a Poet. =A0Great rhythmic, precise, emotional, slightly L= os Loboish, slightly Gypsy Kings but all Daryl, solo acoustic and fat. =A0F= av's are Despertada por la Madrugada, Craquelure and Drink the Desert. = =A0http://darylshawn.bandcamp.co= m .

5) another ECM fav, given to me by a guitar student of = mine=A0when=A0he=A0learned=A0I=A0had=A0bought=A0an=A0oud.=A0=A0This=A0mix= =A0of=A0solo=A0oud=A0and=A0trio=A0(oud,=A0violin=A0and=A0percussion)=A0is= =A0a=A0killer.=A0=A0The=A0artist=A0is=A0Anouar Brah= em and the record is Barzakh. =A0This one seems out of print as well but he= re's the link on Ecm about him=A0http://www.ecmrecords.com/Catalogue/ECM/1= 900/1915.php?lvredir=3D712&catid=3D0&doctype=3DCatalogue&order= =3Dreleasedate&we_search=3D%2BAnouar+%2BBrahem&rubchooser=3D901&= ;mainrubchooser=3D9

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6) A gentleman=A0some=A0of=A0you=A0know=A0who=A0live=A0in=A0the=A0Bay= =A0area.=A0=A0I=A0discovered=A0him=A0as=A0a=A0fluke=A0when=A0I=A0was=A0ther= e=A0on=A0weekend=A0in=A01992,=A0this=A0etheral=A0ringing=A0music=A0from=A0n= early=A0a=A0block=A0away=A0down=A0by=A0the=A0Fisherman's=A0Wharf.=A0=A0= Drew=A0closer=A0to=A0see=A0this=A0guy=A0hammering=A0on=A0what=A0appeared=A0= a=A0hammered=A0dulcimer=A0on=A0acid=A0on=A0some=A0kind=A0of=A0table=A0make= =A0shift=A0way=A0of=A0getting=A0it=A0round.=A0=A0Enter=A0Michael=A0Masley,= =A0street=A0musician=A0of=A0many=A0years=A0in=A0SF=A0and=A0just=A0amazes=A0= me.=A0=A0Fast fwd 10 years, I was leaving the Anaheim Convention Center at = NAMM and was walking through the trees and hear this same haunting music an= d I knew it was 'him'. =A0Got closer and there was Michael, this ti= me we chatted, hung out a bit and have since been in touch thankfully. =A0R= ick I highly recommend to get this guy to come to Loopfest though he doesn&= #39;t use the technology perse he is just an amazing creative inventive art= ist and several on the list will echo this I think. =A0The tunes on my ipod= are from his Cymbalom Solos CD=A0http://www.artistgeneral.com/Cymbsolo.html<= /div>

7) Steve Tibbetts, another ECM fav, he did a series of r= eally great landscapish records in the 80's, this one is wonderful, Big= Map Idea. =A0= http://www.ecmrecords.com/Catalogue/ECM/1300/1380.php?cat=3D&we_start= =3D0&lvredir=3D712&we_search=3D%2BTibbetts

8) From my fretless guitar community (http://www.unfretted.com) a guy I met last fall when= I played at the NYC Fretless Guitar Festival, Neil Haverstack aka Stickman= , great dude and doing some wonderful fretless creations, this CD Mysteriou= s Female,=A0http://microstick.net/

9) This one is for 'fun', Patti Smith Gung Ho. = =A0All Patti maybe a bit more mellow less angry somewhat dark but 'live= d'. =A0Fav track 'Lo and Beholden',=A0http://www.amazon.com/Gung-Ho-Pa= tti-Smith/dp/B00004RCYB

and not to be too self righteous but some of my own stuf= f, my Vertical release from the 2009 RPM month, the ReUse record I produced= this past spring for CT-Collective and Chinapainting's studio CD Night= Blooming Cereus, many good memories on this one but again not to be self s= erving here. =A0these are at http= ://jimgoodin.bandcamp.com=A0should you be curious.

Man I love these kind of threads, love everyone's de= tails about their thoughts on what they're spinning. =A0Good thread Ric= k.

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Jim
--001636c5a49039c11a046f42d7ea-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 03:30:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D240C3BE7C; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248233403; bh=HOeULGvGKYfmK+6/4lbK932st2lLjgmCPEnUCpjU+5k=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1E+9LVDesttUOAgWkdIPJJZXmtdOjzXPpoql6WJHAthNYoCggwcKlhCp9Nxq/q05uF2bcc+9y2UDFzy7oca/apB57G86CCw5wm9BavOBmYwti7qsbSoqkjprX4e61ionespjIhJlJjmMuRjvdK8md4+obYFP+jkCINer0IVug08= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FUskwC9xntZHBKGZJZaBOHM1t/YrpValVWNoTDvO9xr6VfqBBlnazUulH+JPTm/r5I9gwW/U9CnAqaelfITfesbum9qa6hUZYAh9Yyq4RcLjnY8vet2GuiBxHPwyEPIbfZkOw4+XWK6wy/SSyi8st3c5rU0AiU5JEBvEFi+YEKY=; Message-ID: <483165.83887.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:30:03 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: How to use moebius and guitar rig together To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:30:04 +0000 (UTC) I was under the impression that Garage Band only uses its own plugins and i= s not able to host anything else but ive never used it so dont quote me on = that one! cheers Luis --- Mark Sottilaro schrieb am Di, 21.7.2009: > Von: Mark Sottilaro > Betreff: Re: How to use moebius and guitar rig together > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Dienstag, 21. Juli 2009, 11:23 > You'll need an application called a > "host" to do this.=A0 Luckily your > Macbook came with one for free called Garageband.=A0 > I've not used it > much, but I think it should be fairly simple to load them > up as > plug-ins and make it happen.=A0 I personally like > Ableton's Live for > this, but there are plenty of apps that'll more or less get > you there. >=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 03:35:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D2C33BE7F; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=cvuI4gE7tkZkS/+EJdkdFnVJib9D1ZXRsHwX9l/hn+4=; b=pFGiPde0nOFRQJ2tBLcw8VdZNaYz4jxbgv6hYLDuyGjak8RBEOu5h2Iw8ZdqayLBHx 1ww09SEs4WY880IUZ1CIUPTW/2S1UpA3ZZcjYBBaP4unmpK1cWyHwI1E0gIlc0HDgd7g LcAKxq9UGdVQxe1Ld6JB+qrrOUk9ZaqUA6lhw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hTdSVpzU+XeBDy9AzXH595uWXDuj8Zxe0noa4iOGMt78ZgdVM0qU3fPKAEdUdXFb3A wXmOnUTsApqvU/h4lpc2sGRxGsd0xmDLG6ggFbst7XnJ4Ky1JF6fpq+vs1vLvpL0P1Sv 5TnfzU4bz4HaVIfq26QXG/rr8GTSN7akghoLE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:35:04 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907212035m546c2522k81d5199386f4412a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: PastGigSpam: Chinapainting uStream clips from Sunday From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b4968fe9d5046f430ee6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:35:06 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b4968fe9d5046f430ee6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As many know and several were there Sunday, thank you so much folks, Daryl and I did the first Chinapainting live webcast this past Sunday as a precursor to our final appearance in NY this time out. The cast was great fun and I was so glad we could work it in to this group of shows that we did over the last week. I have set highlight points in the hour + long recording as uStream lets you do. Goto my uStream URL at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11for a look listen. Once again thanks so much to those from the community who joined us, Rainer, Ricky, Matt, Chris, Steve, JC and some others I know I'm forgetting, forgive me but thank you folks. Hopefully when Daryl gets back to MX we can figure a way to occasionally do more of these as a host and remote host thing. Stay tuned... Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5b4968fe9d5046f430ee6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As many know and several were there Sunday, thank you so much folks, Daryl = and I did the first Chinapain= ting live webcast this past Sunday as a precursor to our final appearan= ce in NY this time out. =A0The cast was great fun and I was so glad we coul= d work it in to this group of shows that we did over the last week. =A0I ha= ve set highlight points in the hour + long recording as uStream lets you do= .

Goto my uStream URL at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-1= 1 for a look listen. =A0

Once again thanks=A0s= o=A0much=A0to=A0those=A0from=A0the=A0community=A0who=A0joined=A0us,=A0Raine= r,=A0Ricky,=A0Matt,=A0Chris,=A0Steve,=A0JC=A0and=A0some=A0others=A0I=A0know= =A0I'm=A0forgetting,=A0forgive=A0me=A0but=A0thank=A0you=A0folks.=A0=A0H= opefully=A0when=A0Daryl=A0gets=A0back=A0to=A0MX=A0we=A0can=A0figure=A0a=A0w= ay=A0to=A0occasionally=A0do=A0more=A0of=A0these=A0as=A0a=A0host=A0and=A0rem= ote=A0host=A0thing.=A0=A0Stay=A0tuned...

--001636c5b4968fe9d5046f430ee6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 03:35:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 172993BE7E; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:35:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=suxmpSX502yvIuxNLZkdzE6Q/oYTkSCy3CnGgYS9WQM=; b=hjAfQcyL+CJMFD/aBcGNLE8OjUARE46kFSe8BxxBQF5PlfQYvdSDYfjHBuvCbZxm3f jq9/CrL8vWxbX1pkOapNYKdsXCvsm+p39KW0VtkujNez/d167p/+ZAZQS0mByefJ05yg 3UgZSbeGl5hSqYFXHW9GSnQiiKEbBDgNydxZs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; b=OkfnleWi/1kBTY8EGOljQ01ue27MIJgQ5Iuc+sJQ31n94KNEDTBtmghr5yODS7Imt5 GawKR0pXUxqLJTCexuPhi65HvqR8wmA7m8WHYoHGGamlONDYC4c2FJ8ECP0Kg3ODKd5+ OxFEv3MtNgG6AtleEXT5FUOziGOlwB5Ta6Y80= From: "Tony K" To: References: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> Subject: RE: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:35:41 -0400 Message-ID: <000001ca0a7d$7d907790$78b166b0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoKYouucQ9vXV7bRI+Z/HuQHR1YWwAGcIvQ Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:35:44 +0000 (UTC) I've got 3000+ songs in my MP3 player (PC) set to random. Old school prog and metal. Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Megadeth, Opeth, Tool, Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree, Kansas, Yes, Pink Floyd... every once a while Rev Gary Davis or Robert Johnson pops up. Last few cds that turned my head were Riverside - Anno Domini High Definition, Opeth- Watershed, and Dream Theater - Black Clouds and Silver Lining. Tony -----Original Message----- From: Rick Walker [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:23 PM To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) Subject: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable I'm just loving a few things that I'm listening to right now and not only wanted to share them with you all but wanted to know what people are currently listening to. 1) When I was in Zurich, I got the chance to go see Nik Bartsch's RONIN play at their legendary 'Montags' shows (with a really nice opening solo looping set by our own Bernhard Wagner). I was just blown away. It's the best live instrumental music I've seen in a very long time. Minimal, textural compositions/improvisations exploring the realms of polyrhythms and odd time signatures. Every member of his ensemble firing on all cylinders (bass and contrabass clarinet. innovative percussion, fretless 6 string bass and traspset) all mixing with Nik's amazing grand piano/prepared acoustic piano/ electric piano improvisations. Two fisted on two instruments he was playing simultaneously in two different time signatures in waves of acoustic 'loops' that cycled to and from each other. The sound was amazing to boot. They record every night so they have the sound in this venue dialed in. Nik Bartsch's RONIN ---- 'Holon' just doesn't leave my car stereo for very long. I'm in love and it's also inspiring because this music is just made for live looping experiments (as Bernhard's lovely and funky set in Rome and Zurich proved. 2) All day (and as I type) I've been listening to the lovely new John Hassell CD , "Last Night the Moon Came Dropping its Clothes in the Street" . This record is as good as any past Hassell records and that says volumes as he has a half dozen that are in my top 50 list of favorite CDs of all times. It is beautiful, haunting, melancholy, foreign and even alien sounding and as intelligent as it gets for a close to ambient record. And thanks, Massimo, for hipping me to this little gem. 3) Just recently I discovered the music of the superlative and creative jazz drummer/composer Brian Blade so I've purchased both of his jazz CDs with Brian Blade and the Fellowship. In the past I've tended to avoid drummer led jazz projects (a horrid prejudice since I'm a writing drummer) but Blade completely avoids having his records sound like vehicles for drumming. He's a really good writer and these are as good as any recent releases in jazz. Then when I heard that he was also writing singer songwriter material I was, again, skeptical. Brian Blade "Mama Rosa" is just a revelation! He has written a beautiful melancholy meditation on growing up. He has a lovely voice. The songs are really well written. His chordal vocabulary is sophisticated so the record is really interesting but it doesn't sound sophisticated. It's just simply put, lovely. 4) Chris and I are driving down to Los Angeles (500km) to see the British pop band, Elbow's only west coast appearance. There first three CDs are fantastic and incredibly inventive. The production is a marvel, full of fascinating timbral choices of traditional instruments, found sounds and electronics. Imagine if a band with the stylistic scope of the Beatles were playing in the Naughties only further north in England and with a decidedly darker/moodier and more melancholic vibe. Elbow "Asleep in the Back' Elbow "One of Thousands' Elbow "Leaders of the Free World" (which I'd start with first, it's there third) I'm actually not as enamored of their latest release but it doesn't matter because the first three are so good. 5) Then I sit not 100 feet away from the window of my brother's studio. He's writing, recording and developing material for his new CD. For having played frequently with someone for a very long time, I"m always amazed that every couple of days I hear music come out of his studio (and it wafts through our compound on these hot summer days when the windows are open) that is beautiful thought provoking and which has me constantly asking him, "how did you do that". I promote and demonstrate the Looperlative LP-1 but Bill is just becoming a master at using it and leaves me far in the dust in terms of his creative depth in using it. It's not out yet and I'd probably get one free for being family, but I"m gonna buy this sucker when it gets released. Bill Walker "As Yet Untitled" What are you guys and gals listening too? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 03:41:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 078423BE75; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=MEf/D0EU8DYCGBlLOl4CTvxbM8bb5mZLkrNHH91Qhgg=; b=ZLO1vmnt4xZVdkZO0WJ5ZVEUMZr/uUZRcL/MglnnqMxYP8R834Y6PmmxNonYt4j5MA mVfVjxKwaagTl78sJR2Immes9+daOJUo0bX1krSzu89JcDJgzNS09F+nR9UaF24zW2uk XaD7ROdCaICggQJyhlTlIrEefURU/vehw/+po= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=mzHbwco5lepRRXZDZw+e92nD7Y+vsjWz30hlF6mwSdDUOirOC1E9vBRhAnqFbW0Jrx tnBnEiIp6Dd8gWd2vRC/Z36AaxCrrJ5cs6YZ5KZQ1R6XefI0WgueIoW7w6cna7wuVZOP TXIgNiDYUVmWZnn5dXO1MGdMI7RCBR7TQNX3E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:41:29 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907212041g3cbded74me384ba0f8ae9c5a3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OTmaybe: Equipment that lived to tell about it From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636d34bf8804f68046f4325c1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:41:30 +0000 (UTC) --001636d34bf8804f68046f4325c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well okay I'm a chatterbox tonight but had to do one more. This morning my beloved Macbook Pro was sitting temporarily parked about 8 inches off the ground. I turned away for a moment and suddenly heard a hard bang turning to see it on the ground, yikes f&*k, okay prepare Jimbo the harddrive is toast. It was in sleep, I nervously picked it up, opened the display, brought it to life from 'sleep' and was thankfully amazed that it came to life, the screen was intact, the camera worked, sound worked and the drive worked, all seemed happy and me thereby thankful. It does seem psychologically bruised in some way or maybe it's me. Thankfully it lives... J -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636d34bf8804f68046f4325c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well okay I'm a chatterbox tonight but had to do one more. =A0This morn= ing my beloved Macbook Pro was sitting temporarily parked about 8 inches of= f the ground. =A0I turned away for a moment and suddenly heard a hard bang = turning to see it on the ground, yikes f&*k, okay prepare Jimbo the har= ddrive is toast. =A0It was in sleep, I nervously picked it up, opened the d= isplay, brought it to life from 'sleep' and was thankfully amazed t= hat it came to life, the screen was intact, the camera worked, sound worked= and the drive worked, all seemed happy and me thereby thankful. =A0It does= seem psychologically bruised in some way or maybe it's me. =A0Thankful= ly it lives...

--001636d34bf8804f68046f4325c1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 03:48:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1E7B3BE79; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1248234528; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=WDdL3sr7+XERU9eCuKYjAo5vzrU=; b=QA6hr5aURRu7cTLdcbUpHSw2O7K7xfSwCAw1I6/U7PqUGfCZXFP4QBVZ7Sx3RAtb INY1J9QdHxqA0syCyV305qDmTIpYU2VW2Zkh14xIHs0KMCz1c0ZsTCurPJICiX7X; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SfDa3W28_GgA:10 a=MZwQBe6CAAAA:8 a=SD8UwExBEqSDvCCY2nMA:9 a=xFN0I5exkSuj2FWDpoQO8JCAWGYA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001001ca0a7f$51c66000$45802245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:48:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:48:48 +0000 (UTC) I always liked these because I get to find out about even more music that I haven't heard! Sometimes on shuffle and sometimes not I have currently playing: Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain Frank Zappa - Sleep Dirt Porcupine Tree - Niles Recurring Mike Patton - Crank 2 High Voltage soundtrack Secret Chiefs 3 (as The Traditionalists) - Le Mani Destre Recise Degli Ultimi Uomini Splattercell - Oah Fantomas - Melvins Big Band The Mars Volta - Amputechture Hey only one looper in the bunch! peace out, Jeff p.s. I just saw Jims post, thanks for the shout out Jim! I am watching/listening to Chinapainting now http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 I was really sorry I had to work and missed it live but this is the next best thing. Tasty! I gotta ask Daryl what kind of axe he is playing at the beginning.... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 03:51:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8776E3BE85; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GqJQ4QJFG8bkEmpUJqS3TA4uGmg0HlXASBPodhhpA7I=; b=cZ4n8LfO23oF1DR+9uTwFH+mBuRteiv2zZU1pTF1wyy86Ow6UCIPxKjewCqB3Kdcqb nZJixPddmQnph2I2PkiAB7hZTcc5NJw8p3iI8w58JO0Y5RGbfLFxfbLHfdBxNSqosDGV iN9/BtCTnEwYkkJTFXK/GaUJDxpkne2dF+iho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o+fXP7ETrP4fLcjbuD6AzcOHzTMVTLN6bPMwwqfA4dzLO2lcpUi5nJOChilvqUk0y0 iPD7CslDDcTyV8t4mL4gi71u8e/D43ItuhWHBKWlFjfzqYr4XxYsRULkWECbuMZvNRdZ YfDrMGybItO8nHQbLsQdJhSTdj+RcF0JGUBaU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A6637D4.6050101@flyloops.com> <66f9cc1e0907211741h1747088xba8d33266ebd75ef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:51:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loopers forum.. From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:51:38 +0000 (UTC) I don't get it... to me it seems like a forum is a better use of your time because it's all there for the pick'n as opposed to being forced at you to sift though. When I see a "Help with EDP" thread here I have to keep deleting the emails as they come in because I can't offer anything useful to the conversation. If it's a thread on a forum, I never really need to even see it if I don't go into the thread. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > 2009/7/22, Per Boysen : >> I'm not against a livelooping forum. I just don't have enough time for >> it. Sorting all incoming according to projects, lists and contacts by >> mail boxes is what saves my ass daily. > > .. and that saved ass help us gently everyday .. you rock swede! > >> Per Boysen >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Aaron Leese >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Yeah, I know it. =A0I was just over there today as well. >>> Unfortunately, traffic is generally rather low, and some people on this >>> list >>> have been rather against the idea of a looping forum in the past ... no= t >>> sure why. =A0Also, I think Kim still watches this list, but LD doesn't = get >>> updated much. =A0A few more links on there would be great. >>> >>> this one could use a bump too .... great URL, too bad there's not more >>> there. >>> >>> http://www.livelooping.org/ >>> >>> >>> Mark Sottilaro wrote: >>>> >>>> So the other day I find out there's this: >>>> >>>> http://loopingmusic.proboards.com/ >>>> >>>> I'd been wanting something like that for years! >>>> >>>> Is there a reason that there's no link on the LD webpage? =A0Judging b= y >>>> the success of forums like KVRaudio.com I think something like this >>>> forum could really appeal to people like me that prefer their loopchat >>>> in a forum form. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 04:00:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 636263BE8D; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:00:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Emf2xcIVyokEpFZqpUYcwVAgvQANJ2aWUnevlTMM+vU=; b=OuZB9dMpn2kDcYyIZlhc6YywAXPnVMEDwIHjhW6i+/J5t4Y1YNi/86yA2uR3d5xsII BgPF3IlCvhx5PfyaZnlu1h22uBBculRJDJ1TPyLUpZasEvAmNKJc3x5Zacb8P+lezwqC jYY+/DXPfXh/ZkT5xb1HV+TkdmXsHaNrAxsq0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AY59y679cddRHsIPTXnLqLVJUxZ+tlSXrpdrjjfh2P8yD/QnT+tH6XvyYGlozT4+b0 ODf67zb3XXf954MXrXImviFkAOdg+3dSLt0NiPCadHhGc8DFZonI1+6rgZ6mIPWGpNJG 6t267tAFR+rNXFa/L3xY9qBGfzLUoKyUjEgD4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001001ca0a7f$51c66000$45802245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> <001001ca0a7f$51c66000$45802245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:00:22 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907212100p6001ddb5qcf7831363fc25e81@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bfb40b3a0b046f4369cf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:00:24 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bfb40b3a0b046f4369cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow Jeff such a range with Frank near top, miss him... Thanks re the words, we missed you. The axe is a travel guitar he got last summer made by these folks I believe, http://www.travelerguitar.com/ it's pretty cool, Steinbergerlikish Who is Secret Chiefs? sounds cool On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > I always liked these because I get to find out about even more music that I > haven't heard! > > Sometimes on shuffle and sometimes not I have currently playing: > > Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain > Frank Zappa - Sleep Dirt > Porcupine Tree - Niles Recurring > Mike Patton - Crank 2 High Voltage soundtrack > Secret Chiefs 3 (as The Traditionalists) - Le Mani Destre Recise Degli > Ultimi Uomini > Splattercell - Oah > Fantomas - Melvins Big Band > The Mars Volta - Amputechture > > Hey only one looper in the bunch! > > > peace out, > > Jeff > > p.s. > I just saw Jims post, thanks for the shout out Jim! > I am watching/listening to Chinapainting now > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 I was really sorry I > had to work and missed it live but this is the next best thing. Tasty! I > gotta ask Daryl what kind of axe he is playing at the beginning.... > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5bfb40b3a0b046f4369cf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow Jeff such a range with Frank near top, miss him...

T= hanks re the words, we missed you. =A0The axe is a travel guitar he got las= t summer made by these folks I believe,=A0http://www.travelerguitar.com/=A0it's pretty cool, Steinb= ergerlikish

Who is Secret Chiefs? =A0sounds cool



On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:48 PM,= Jeff Duke <j= eff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
I always liked these because I get to find = out about even more music that I haven't heard!

Sometimes on shuffle and sometimes not I have currently playing:

Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain
Frank Zappa - Sleep Dirt
Porcupine Tree - Niles Recurring
Mike Patton - Crank 2 High Voltage soundtrack
Secret Chiefs 3 (as The Traditionalists) - Le Mani Destre Recise Degli Ulti= mi Uomini
Splattercell - Oah
Fantomas - Melvins Big Band
The Mars Volta - Amputechture

Hey only one looper in the bunch!


peace out,

Jeff

p.s.
I just saw Jims post, thanks for the shout out Jim!
I am watching/listening to Chinapainting now http://www.ustream.tv/ch= annel/sunday-morning-at-11 I was really sorry I had to work and missed = it live but this is the next best thing. Tasty! I gotta ask Daryl what kind= of axe he is playing at the beginning....



--
ReUse, an introspective= textural aural
www.myspace.c= om/CtReUse

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

--001636c5bfb40b3a0b046f4369cf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 04:25:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83C2F3BE91; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ztUa9vk78GVZEWlczoNb+4puso/Y0/BmiiKfW9s6ByE=; b=fFrNbqQQD4rfD5JQTGludb4xY6n73Tn7gT13EyekXMXUw5kGxGMa8a341qZSaAW+6L Uy/8YJUZEPHAY8ct/fcdcDP95l3i0ix8vFGjl8NfzQLimEXrRzaLX/V0Za/nV7k6ny3x SUNn7vQ2LOxTkOIo6gKYH6t9uXAPSeOFe04Ys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pOtPf3gOhNblk6i7wMit1BYco4o4WSRc1QcVPLa5OWVV0WNmjcnRudYUw/v5qQccZl mmiebA3041/AJzhxe+HCVX5JOy43BxsCDu7ElrYOJbaWXqgRQ0kLUm/3gV8n2FfxM0Ha n0RisY2rvXeSiMglYh2IRgDr6bMss5c2XL5MM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <483165.83887.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <483165.83887.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:25:43 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to use moebius and guitar rig together From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:25:44 +0000 (UTC) noops. garageband can host third party plugs. 2009/7/22, L.Angulo : > > I was under the impression that Garage Band only uses its own plugins and= is > not able to host anything else but ive never used it so dont quote me on > that one! > cheers > Luis > > --- Mark Sottilaro schrieb am Di, 21.7.2009: > >> Von: Mark Sottilaro >> Betreff: Re: How to use moebius and guitar rig together >> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Datum: Dienstag, 21. Juli 2009, 11:23 >> You'll need an application called a >> "host" to do this.=A0 Luckily your >> Macbook came with one for free called Garageband. >> I've not used it >> much, but I think it should be fairly simple to load them >> up as >> plug-ins and make it happen.=A0 I personally like >> Ableton's Live for >> this, but there are plenty of apps that'll more or less get >> you there. >> > > > > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 04:26:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F7F03BE92; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:26:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A669509.7040101@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:26:49 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:26:56 +0000 (UTC) Some great ideas about what to listen to. Thanks everyone. I'm having a great evening checking out everything people have recommended on Rhapsody. I'm currently listening to the Todd Sickafoose's Tiny Resistors record. It's really a very good record, thanks so much for recommending it. I think it was Ariel who did but I can't tell because the Daily Digest doesn't always identify who's posting unless they sign their individual posts. Ariel , if you like this stuff, you might really like the Brian Blade's Fellowship recordings! Also, Jim mentioned Michael Masley's beautiful music on Cymbalon: I actually know Michael fairly well. He's talked about hiring me to play on a recording some day but we never put it together. He's really innovative and he lives entirely off of playing on the street with his innovative mixture of hammering and bowing the Cymbalon. He invented special beaters that have curved bows at the ends so he can either get 'wine glass-esque' bowed sounds or percussive sounds out of his Cymbalon (a form of hammered dulcimer). Jim you mentioned getting him to come to the festival but he, doesn't loop or if he did, he would have played years ago. I did get him a cushy wedding gig earlier this year, however, so that felt good. For such an innovative musician, he lives very marginally,economically. So glad you are into him. ************ Speaking of that devil, do you know the innovative bassist, Mark Deutsch from the Bay Area? He's another guy you'd just love, Jim and Daryl. He plays an invention of his called a Bazantar which is a cross between an upright acoustic bass and a sitar (with sympathetic strings). Really cool.............really out of the box. ************* Chris also mentioned Tinariwen, Bajofondo and Buraka Som Sistema. I love Tinariwen and the Buraka Som Sistema records They are both incredibly funky in respectively , traditional and modern ways! ************* I was wondering: Is the Bajofondo record the group that's part of the whole Congotronics movement? If not, that's one you might love: totally traditional drum based kalimba music except that they are using crudely kluged together amplifiers (out of car parts, I heard) that distort the kalimbas terribly into a beautiful mixture. If so, then I"m not hipping you to anything From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 04:35:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22FBB3BE80; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fktc8RuuVPKxDQapXj0kyJVAWO+aAJKAI/eUXlzUuJ4=; b=k1bv+nW2Y3o819z2miRDG99ZgCLDQ368eaUZpjQtxrwcReoBouc09Vme8MCntTqKI1 ZkpifLBQw4uNTUi8CBnXU87dwQEU3FDgW8smWzvp3cw9eIee/jNy1NNURgD3bP1WALy1 RML0VXdPWVaNFNQfQHIBVMvMdOUy518mTYdKI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RwPlkh3gD5mNaeTO+eVlcUgOYhgJHnKwYr0sUiUMgOreXqhGNfMJGrBgLN5RuPNeka p1oo/hdxdS2hPoJPK/mOYHiEpieiLHnBY7Srl6cVPceUAcbyut9E1v3zT1mCxkcUxx1H 9Ge1HUdwW3UJ+iBfhUp6ne6as//ODo7ZJAFN4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <483165.83887.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:27:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to use moebius and guitar rig together From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0eQtT.A.KP.5bpZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Yup, my friend uses Cantor and Cube in it all the time. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > noops. garageband can host third party plugs. > > 2009/7/22, L.Angulo : >> >> I was under the impression that Garage Band only uses its own plugins an= d is >> not able to host anything else but ive never used it so dont quote me on >> that one! >> cheers >> Luis >> >> --- Mark Sottilaro schrieb am Di, 21.7.2009: >> >>> Von: Mark Sottilaro >>> Betreff: Re: How to use moebius and guitar rig together >>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Datum: Dienstag, 21. Juli 2009, 11:23 >>> You'll need an application called a >>> "host" to do this.=A0 Luckily your >>> Macbook came with one for free called Garageband. >>> I've not used it >>> much, but I think it should be fairly simple to load them >>> up as >>> plug-ins and make it happen.=A0 I personally like >>> Ableton's Live for >>> this, but there are plenty of apps that'll more or less get >>> you there. >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 04:37:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F3963BE79; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=leHTSuAZkTdSyTR+QdyXvH4BI3SWVLoDY7uftc4zDJU=; b=UruI6ei9Jmqov4SPFPD3WZ6dwDEfIPLPCCTRiQLhplceErrIddh6UJ4uLrBaE1AeBv jVYALux0IRbKv+78TLy4kBWtB/V9RqcOHXT8yIJ4iEncykPXV06P0z0xeWpZMo/oPgTV FT3nTCAntAlK5Haf/p7KdODm/hUnjwnqs0d0k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OpWX5/+xO5HwpnkINXIqkfBNqKtom+vt1eaaQGY/8hZFfXUJFaARyWe+O+4wXAdoS0 TweplDa1o2gOD+X0OvUyNEdQbcUaULTbLIiSxcOJto/Jst3W+CFW7sG65xq9y+hxsf1w mAz7+QeqDREn6J/Zk7h6kyHUesglNkzGwN45k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A6637D4.6050101@flyloops.com> <66f9cc1e0907211741h1747088xba8d33266ebd75ef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:37:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Loopers forum.. From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <13fRZ.A.tX.YepZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:37:44 +0000 (UTC) the point is that one boring or not interesting thread may turn into something useful for you. i don't need to erase any email with gmail, and normally don't even have to check any archives to find that much needed missing message. it's all here. besides, gmail powered with gears, allows you to have that big archive in your computer without any connection. not much different, nor efficient from a forum, but what's better for sure is that you don't get pre-filtered info. .02 2009/7/22, Mark Sottilaro : > I don't get it... to me it seems like a forum is a better use of your > time because it's all there for the pick'n as opposed to being forced > at you to sift though. When I see a "Help with EDP" thread here I > have to keep deleting the emails as they come in because I can't offer > anything useful to the conversation. If it's a thread on a forum, I > never really need to even see it if I don't go into the thread. > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Raul Bonell wrote= : >> 2009/7/22, Per Boysen : >>> I'm not against a livelooping forum. I just don't have enough time for >>> it. Sorting all incoming according to projects, lists and contacts by >>> mail boxes is what saves my ass daily. >> >> .. and that saved ass help us gently everyday .. you rock swede! >> >>> Per Boysen >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Aaron Leese >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Yeah, I know it. =A0I was just over there today as well. >>>> Unfortunately, traffic is generally rather low, and some people on thi= s >>>> list >>>> have been rather against the idea of a looping forum in the past ... n= ot >>>> sure why. =A0Also, I think Kim still watches this list, but LD doesn't= get >>>> updated much. =A0A few more links on there would be great. >>>> >>>> this one could use a bump too .... great URL, too bad there's not more >>>> there. >>>> >>>> http://www.livelooping.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark Sottilaro wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So the other day I find out there's this: >>>>> >>>>> http://loopingmusic.proboards.com/ >>>>> >>>>> I'd been wanting something like that for years! >>>>> >>>>> Is there a reason that there's no link on the LD webpage? =A0Judging = by >>>>> the success of forums like KVRaudio.com I think something like this >>>>> forum could really appeal to people like me that prefer their loopcha= t >>>>> in a forum form. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> >> > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 04:56:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 009FD3BE70; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:56:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yTXvfqnYN9AugJVEAxDgwGbrv+IeI2gH/GE/g1xkp4g=; b=ah8CysYeHjOgVoPiQpKbJ0pHoBVodoeTMQNOOf3lSA/U4U5432aUh3ei9KugPHZwLD 790VOfIZbBTkpxj89hveqX1j6iMqtamLOJ4FpyAr4Swkxi3h3khiSM745mXmCdKXHrAB 1RVKYr8d0FR3j2fnDDDi9o49m7hnFJQYllIUU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dB3S1bizDAzmoXKA5HfSpEDgX3ap4fJuJH9BQG7+GtJE2VMTT1r9C80vCZHQa0o0pU k7+FZfCW66vgJLpFg50dhPcNJI3nF/S8oh0RXPoQE4akcDVo//b5v3wig9mHrDCP6naa QQXX6S/P2hNZbQpfA1nuTdt6pZ1tMvvIjxdig= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A6637D4.6050101@flyloops.com> <66f9cc1e0907211741h1747088xba8d33266ebd75ef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:56:54 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110907212156w2e3b2cbcv5e88ff45ee2c6207@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Loopers forum.. From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e642d3343d4c4f046f4433fb Resent-Message-ID: <3nrbXC.A.rRB.XwpZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:56:55 +0000 (UTC) --0016e642d3343d4c4f046f4433fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Forums: one general subject per website. Each website has a different interface, a different way of representing information, a different way of navigating, and varying loading times. Usually limited to hierarchical content presentation according to the setup of the forum. In short, duplication of effort, inefficiency in data retrieval, management of multiple profiles... Email lists: available in a single interface, searchable across email lists of my choosing to create a personalized rapidly indexed database of information. I can browse ALL of my email lists and reply to personal emails without leaving the common interface. I can choose to browse in a linear or threaded fashion according to how I wish to have it setup,and indeed quickly switch between the two presentations on the fly. I can't buy the argument that a forum interface is more flexible than a decent email client. A compromise: a forum that provides RSS feeds, so that I can use my feedreader in a manner similar to my email client, or integrate the two if I wish. I don't remember when I signed up to this list, but it's been a long time. I don't post very often, but enjoy reading the exchanges. Because of email lists I have an offline knowledge base that I often search through for useful advice without needing to get on the internet or load up a browser. 2 cents for a status quo that suits me just fine. =) -michael --0016e642d3343d4c4f046f4433fb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Forums: one general subject per website. Each website has a different inter= face, a different way of representing information, a different way of navig= ating, and varying loading times. Usually limited to hierarchical content p= resentation according to the setup of the forum. In short, duplication of e= ffort, inefficiency in data retrieval, management of multiple profiles...
Email lists: available in a single interface, searchable acr= oss email lists of my choosing to create a personalized rapidly indexed dat= abase of information. I can browse ALL of my email lists and reply to perso= nal emails without leaving the common interface. I can choose to browse in = a linear or threaded fashion according to how I wish to have it setup,and i= ndeed quickly switch between the two presentations on the fly. I can't = buy the argument that a forum interface is more flexible than a decent emai= l client.

A compromise: a forum that provides RSS feeds, so that = I can use my feedreader in a manner similar to my email client, or integrat= e the two if I wish.

I don't remember when I s= igned up to this list, but it's been a long time. I don't post very= often, but enjoy reading the exchanges. Because of email lists I have an o= ffline knowledge base that I often search through for useful advice without= needing to get on the internet or load up a browser.

2 cents for a status quo that suits me just fine. =3D)<= /div>

-michael


--0016e642d3343d4c4f046f4433fb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 04:59:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E34F83BE79; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:59:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1248238795; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Z8ue+zxkZSY5NQ6gCi18LxgfKMs=; b=bA0qv4QhqYGTNlwhtRqyanXwy8Lzv8oDWSqFjeA7kGo85vgvKffZFgEg2o88Jue9 WTaWhPngCw8Www3sy74fQfeCEN116+mWOio03mTSoLF5T8cjl8Yimz4u3BEnwhlE; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SfDa3W28_GgA:10 a=8pif782wAAAA:8 a=LV3oNoogAAAA:20 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=oyJa06woAAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=MZwQBe6CAAAA:8 a=wUJ9XRdNAAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=JqEG_dyiAAAA:8 a=rTOq2nDjq1fLcfHPtlsA:9 a=44paFgAvqyDuvQPWd8ZbL3sxhVQA:4 a=6y61hU8uYSEA:10 a=pufoRJSiRt4A:10 a=K8sKunsjz6wA:10 a=t4fEMkN2Tb8A:10 a=HKjzKo7LuBcA:10 a=j1JV5d43ytUA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=FmhvdedR7yObco_ihNEA:9 a=vW7rZA1FmDE52sxZ7WYA:7 a=UTtefn71bPzmqfR1oQIPWg0qWGAA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000a01ca0a89$40fbedd0$45802245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> <001001ca0a7f$51c66000$45802245@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60907212100p6001ddb5qcf7831363fc25e81@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:59:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA0A67.B9A2BD80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:59:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA0A67.B9A2BD80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim, I can't say enough about Secret Chiefs 3 = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Chiefs_3 Wonderful. Highly recommended! youtube http://tinyurl.com/mbhqpk http://www.myspace.com/secretchiefs3 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:00 AM Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Wow Jeff such a range with Frank near top, miss him... Thanks re the words, we missed you. The axe is a travel guitar he got = last summer made by these folks I believe, = http://www.travelerguitar.com/ it's pretty cool, Steinbergerlikish Who is Secret Chiefs? sounds cool On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Jeff Duke = wrote: I always liked these because I get to find out about even more music = that I haven't heard! Sometimes on shuffle and sometimes not I have currently playing: Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain Frank Zappa - Sleep Dirt Porcupine Tree - Niles Recurring Mike Patton - Crank 2 High Voltage soundtrack Secret Chiefs 3 (as The Traditionalists) - Le Mani Destre Recise = Degli Ultimi Uomini Splattercell - Oah Fantomas - Melvins Big Band The Mars Volta - Amputechture Hey only one looper in the bunch! peace out, Jeff p.s. I just saw Jims post, thanks for the shout out Jim! I am watching/listening to Chinapainting now = http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 I was really sorry I = had to work and missed it live but this is the next best thing. Tasty! I = gotta ask Daryl what kind of axe he is playing at the beginning....=20 --=20 ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA0A67.B9A2BD80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jim, I can't say enough about Secret = Chiefs 3 http://en.wikipedia= .org/wiki/Secret_Chiefs_3
 Wonderful. Highly = recommended!
youtube=20 http://tinyurl.com/mbhqpk
 http://www.myspace.= com/secretchiefs3
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 = 12:00=20 AM
Subject: Re: OT: What's on your = iPod/CDplayer/Turntable

Wow Jeff such a range with Frank near top, miss him...

Thanks re the words, we missed you.  The axe is a travel = guitar he=20 got last summer made by these folks I believe, http://www.travelerguitar.com/ it's=20 pretty cool, Steinbergerlikish

Who is Secret Chiefs?  sounds cool



On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Jeff Duke = <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>=20 wrote:
I=20 always liked these because I get to find out about even more music = that I=20 haven't heard!

Sometimes on shuffle and sometimes not I have=20 currently playing:

Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain
Frank = Zappa -=20 Sleep Dirt
Porcupine Tree - Niles Recurring
Mike Patton - = Crank 2 High=20 Voltage soundtrack
Secret Chiefs 3 (as The Traditionalists) - Le = Mani=20 Destre Recise Degli Ultimi Uomini
Splattercell - Oah
Fantomas = -=20 Melvins Big Band
The Mars Volta - Amputechture

Hey only = one looper=20 in the bunch!


peace out,

Jeff

p.s.
I just saw Jims post, = thanks=20 for the shout out Jim!
I am watching/listening to Chinapainting = now http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 I = was=20 really sorry I had to work and missed it live but this is the next = best=20 thing. Tasty! I gotta ask Daryl what kind of axe he is playing at = the=20 beginning....



-- =
ReUse, an=20 introspective textural aural
www.myspace.com/CtReUse
music=20 links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com=
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinm= usic
www.myspace.com/chinap= aintingmusic
www.myspace.com/ji= mgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
= www.youtube.com/jimgoodinm= usic

video=20 work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindig= ital

social=20 networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinm= usic

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA0A67.B9A2BD80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 05:48:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 443153BE7C; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 05:48:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VTXHZFwZtJUuLdK2uEvWXeTRT/xRQq0xuPjMRe9CzSw=; b=uF+kNsAb/0elGQmIZAVW4eKrlOkeZ87DOa+D+wbnKolHuQFoJ5qTXDNE1MDw3FvDla VVqk8+iDfNlxPdYYtDiYEnVVKZHn8BhwMuW7kyYPuCc3L8CRhLaJf6ONc5pAmZuKZf1z RjFQsEznLWD5zzWnlQQ637MjJjiAPubeqdPTU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=vSfH0L8a2Nb530lOHSpDeMt2SUC/NtjKJ6ERPgfd2D/60Kp9QUL/ZhihGoj/MFGSj5 YpnRN3nhz2xPO0/tAgAzO3z0qcMsLGrNV6w9NiwPwDu14xgBTCmfrgFR+O30quVZcSWr focv8yt/GkIi73hHk61ojvYc2RmVED3ct90Aw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:48:36 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: OT: virtual pre for bass From: Raul Bonell To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 05:48:38 +0000 (UTC) speaking of virtual pres like GR, several IK multimedia, Revalver, etc ... does anybody had the chance to test *mark studio 1* plugin from italian bass cabinets and amps maker markbass ? how does compares to the ampeg simulation from ik? thanks! -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 06:06:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FCF63BE80; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:06:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 39998 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:06:22 UTC Message-ID: <4A661008.2050302@flyloops.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:59:20 -0700 From: Aaron Leese User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: iphone looper ... apparently References: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <480F2DD3-4F0B-4613-B915-57F7E047C251@btinternet.com> <4A651F50.4040108@flyloops.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:06:22 +0000 (UTC) Right, JUCE is *mostly Cocoa now .... with a few carbon bits here and there to support certain frameworks where Carbon is required. I was unsure where those bits were, but assumed they were substantial enough to make my application not work ... perhaps I was wrong. I still assume that the when running FlyLoops on iPhone you probably don't get everything .... like the midi systems, or VST or ASIO support. But I guess the UI is 100% cocoa or it wouldn't show up? More generally, I haven't contacted the author and wonder about the claim myself ... but have no iphone to check. Some friends do, so I am sure I'll confirm/disconfirm soon enough. More on UI design .... quite right about the Mac golden rules ...... the nice thing about Juce though is that you can do alot to customize the look and feel. The default look is pretty cheesy .... shiny and rounded and everything else .... but you can customize UI more easily with JUCE than with the most UI libraries ..... Cocoa is also very UI designer friendly of course, but the PC UI libraries give me pain. Per GPL, I am planning on buying the license when I release the commercial version. I got 90 downloads this month so far .... I figure if 2 or 3 people buy a month ($120) I'll pay for the license in a few months. Then I just have to justify the high salary job I left once upon a time when I though Mike Nelson at Boomerang was behind this .... the 2 years I've spent learning how to write code, and the part time jobs that I have barely held down while I worked on this thing 7 hours a day ...... wooosh ..... I will say, I'll be glad to have it done. I wish I had more time to make music, but code writing is addictive in it's own ways too. Jeff Larson wrote: > > > On Jul 20, 2009, at 8:52 PM, Aaron Leese wrote: > > I'm surprised it works on the iPhone. > > Me too. My understanding is that the iPhone requires that the UI > be built on Cocoa and JUCE the last time I checked uses Carbon. > > The Cocoa widgets in the iPhone SDK are also designed specifically for > the idiosyncrasies of the device, especially things like popup > dialogs, keyboard entry, and mouse gestures. I don't think you can > just take something built for OSX and run it on the iPhone without major > modifications, unless the app obeys some fairly strict rules. Does JUCE > have some new "iPhone compatibility mode"? > > Other than mentioning iPhone in the article title I didn't see > anything in the text that made it sound like it was running > on an iPhone and the screenshot looks like a normal OSX app. > Have you contacted the author to verify this claim? > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 06:43:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A1C93BE77; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 479 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:43:45 UTC X-Originating-IP: [166.196.173.8] X-Originating-Email: [johncecilprice@hotmail.com] Message-ID: References: <23918615.1248226953814.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> From: johncecilprice To: "stanitarium@earthlink.net" In-Reply-To: <23918615.1248226953814.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5H11) Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:35:33 -0400 Cc: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2009 06:35:45.0409 (UTC) FILETIME=[A4769F10:01CA0A96] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:43:45 +0000 (UTC) on my iPod "jcp" playlist with 1 or more tunes per artist: jerry reed tin machine willie nelson lady gaga chuck berry arcade fire talk talk mot=C3=B6rhead Luther vandross sgt sass (local philly-gay-hip-hop duo) sister rosetta tharpe rufus and Chaka khan teena marie black eyed peas curtis mayfield staples singers robin thicke grace jones keith Richards eurythmics tears for fears el malito (local Philly Latin rock) theThe wanda Jackson kid cudi santigold Springsteen baptist preachers (local philly, blackabilly, glam, black-rock, pop, =20 punk, gospel & new wave) swing out sister the pretenders phil collins pop will eat itself tackhead psychedelic furs Steve earle the black keys style council michael Jackson aretha franklin amy winehouse Raphael sadiq solange knowles van halen Emmy lou Harris the killers bat for lashes dumptruck cat power prince sufjan Stevens black landlord (local Philly hip hop/funk) ruin (legendary, local, philly-hardcore band) Sent from my iPhone >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 06:56:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC9B73BE7C; 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Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:58:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A66C725.5030607@het.it> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:00:37 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable References: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------060406000009090503080705" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090106-1, 06/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:58:25 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060406000009090503080705 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes Rick, i this period i'm listeng to the last album of Moby (Wait for me)
that i consider very interesting,
i'm also redescovering some 80's music like Einsturzende Neubauten, Tuxedomoon, Cocteau Twins, Propaganda, etc etc
my preferred listenings in this period are also: Boards of Canada, Biosphere, Goldfrapp, Bjork, Peter Gabriel
Alva Noto & Ryuichi Sakamoto (Vrioon) italian classical pianist Alessandra Celletti,
and some unknown but very interesting groups found on Myspace or Jamendo like Psilodigm, Prehab, ultrich schnauss,go dot etc
Sometimes i listen to internet Radio while working like drone radio etc etc


Rick Walker ha scritto:
I'm just loving a few things that I'm listening to right now
and not only wanted to share them with you all but wanted
to know what people are currently listening to.

1)  When I was in Zurich,  I got the chance to go see
Nik Bartsch's RONIN play at their legendary 'Montags'
shows  (with a really nice opening solo looping set
by our own Bernhard Wagner).
I was just blown away. It's the best live instrumental
music I've seen in a very long time.  Minimal, textural
compositions/improvisations exploring the realms of
polyrhythms and odd time signatures.   Every member of his
ensemble firing on all cylinders (bass and contrabass clarinet.
innovative percussion, fretless 6 string bass and traspset) all
mixing with Nik's amazing grand piano/prepared acoustic piano/
electric piano improvisations.  Two fisted on two instruments he
was playing simultaneously in two different time signatures in
waves of acoustic 'loops' that cycled to and from each other.
The sound was amazing to boot.  They record every night
so they have the sound in this venue dialed in.

Nik Bartsch's RONIN ----  'Holon'
just doesn't leave my  car stereo for very long.   I'm in love and it's also inspiring because
this music is just made for live looping experiments (as Bernhard's lovely
and funky set in Rome and Zurich proved.  
2) All day (and as I type) I've been listening to the lovely new

John Hassell CD , "Last Night the Moon Came Dropping its Clothes in the Street"

.   This record is as good as any past Hassell records
and that says volumes as he has a half dozen that are in my top 50 list
of favorite CDs of all times.  It is beautiful, haunting, melancholy, foreign
and even alien sounding and as intelligent as it gets for a close to
ambient record.   And thanks, Massimo, for hipping me to this little gem.  
3)  Just recently I discovered the music of the superlative and creative jazz
drummer/composer  Brian Blade so I've purchased both of his jazz CDs
with Brian Blade and the Fellowship.
In the past I've tended to avoid drummer led jazz projects (a horrid prejudice
since I'm a writing drummer) but Blade completely avoids having his records
sound like vehicles for drumming.  He's a really good writer and these are as
good as any recent releases in jazz.

Then when I heard that he was also writing singer songwriter material I was,
again, skeptical.

Brian Blade  "Mama Rosa"     is just a revelation!

He has written a beautiful melancholy meditation on growing up.  He has a lovely
voice.  The songs are really well written.  His chordal vocabulary is sophisticated
so the record is really interesting but it doesn't sound sophisticated.
It's just simply put, lovely.      
4) Chris and I are driving down to Los Angeles (500km) to see the British pop band, Elbow's only west coast
appearance.    There first three CDs are fantastic and incredibly inventive.   The production is a marvel,
full of fascinating timbral choices of traditional instruments, found sounds and electronics.
Imagine if a band with the stylistic scope of the Beatles were playing in the Naughties only
further north in England and with a decidedly darker/moodier and more melancholic vibe.

Elbow  "Asleep in the Back'
Elbow  "One of Thousands'
Elbow "Leaders of the Free World"    (which I'd start with first,   it's there third)

I'm actually not as enamored of their latest release but it doesn't matter because the first three are so good.

5)    Then I sit not 100 feet away from the window of my brother's studio. He's writing, recording and developing material for his new CD.    For having played frequently
with someone for a very long time, I"m always amazed that every couple of days I hear music
come out of his studio (and it wafts through our compound on these hot summer days when
the windows are open)  that is beautiful thought provoking and which has me constantly
asking him,  "how did you do that".        I promote and demonstrate the
Looperlative LP-1 but Bill is just becoming a master at using it and leaves me far in the dust
in terms of his creative depth in using it.
It's not out yet and I'd probably get one free for being family, but I"m gonna buy this
sucker when it gets released.

Bill Walker   "As Yet Untitled"


What are you guys and gals listening too?




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luq8b6zZL//pf/v6v//83//+//8A8U/gQIIFDR5EmFDhQoYJAwIAOw== --------------060406000009090503080705-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 07:59:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2150E3BE79; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:59:46 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <997272.47717.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090722075946.218570@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <997272.47717.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Open Letter to Mark Sottilaro from Rick Walker To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/yV8N4+Yjy32bunIwq+0OzcFmxCZLvUNuBTFrQHi C+MfmjQYsjPZNdn8KdNlgtodV4y/YGRDMMtA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: pYIsDSkya2Aof80tzHUy72M6OWhhasdC X-FuHaFi: 0.8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Luis > Buzap is normal this loops once in a while as well > "einbischen spass muss sein" > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom Alright ;-) Cannot see on the list how well people take the punches and low blows... best regards & peace Buzap -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 08:06:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C774C3BE79; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 233964761/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.136.31/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.136.31 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsQBAIJlZkpPRogf/2dsb2JhbAAI0TSEDgWJbA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,245,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="233964761" Message-ID: <4A66CBEE.1090003@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:21:02 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers forum.. References: <4A6637D4.6050101@flyloops.com> In-Reply-To: <4A6637D4.6050101@flyloops.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Aaron Leese wrote: > > > Yeah, I know it. I was just over there today as well. :-) me too > Unfortunately, traffic is generally rather low, which is exactly the reason that:- > and some people on this > list have been rather against the idea of a looping forum in the past > ... not sure why. that's all there is to it, the mailing list thrives. The forum is quiet. I think LD has between 100-200 signed up members which is the same as that forum. So for the number of participants we have, the mailing list produces (for better or worse) animated discussion, and the forum doesn't. >From experience at that particular forum, which I participate in regularly, it soon becomes obvious that it's very easy for a thread to die simply because a participant didn't check back. If you want to have the advantages of a forum while reading LD 1) reading messages by thread 2) avoid a great pile of LD in your inbox 3) search the archive efficiently none of those things is difficult to do. So, I hope no-one still feels hard done by that they are don't have their forum :-) I hope it also explains why the majority of LD members just don't feel a need for a forum. > Also, I think Kim still watches this list, but LD > doesn't get updated much. A few more links on there would be great. You could try mailing him direct. That's what he used to ask for in the days that he did contribute. > > this one could use a bump too .... great URL, too bad there's not more > there. > > http://www.livelooping.org/ Matthias' site > > > Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> So the other day I find out there's this: >> >> http://loopingmusic.proboards.com/ Nick Robinson's. Good old Nick, he actually went and did it! >> andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 08:07:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44C8F3BE81; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:07:20 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907211741h1747088xba8d33266ebd75ef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090722080720.218560@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4A6637D4.6050101@flyloops.com> <66f9cc1e0907211741h1747088xba8d33266ebd75ef@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Loopers forum.. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/vzrRT9zHvvmY/gAN48H3ofThOboE8VgXX0iFU8e wJMzQVE9zVY2LtYaMeQmU1HA34evl7cCfBsw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: gP9TfhUSTiE+ZNp6nGVw3Ct9ZUVSRBcL X-FuHaFi: 0.71 Resent-Message-ID: <-fx2CB.A.TJB.7isZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:07:23 +0000 (UTC) > I'm not against a livelooping forum. I just don't have enough time for > it. Sorting all incoming according to projects, lists and contacts by > mail boxes is what saves my ass daily. Yes, Per, from what I saw on your computer, I guess Gmail really does the trick and gives you an experience similar to (or better than?) forums. I haven't, but you could give it a try and sign up with gmail, subscribe & test it. I kind of gave up on the forum idea and accepted that the LD mailing list is simply the bible belt of looping and nothing will change ;-) best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 08:08:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A59B3BE82; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:08:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 233530871/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.136.31/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.136.31 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsQBAPxlZkpPRogf/2dsb2JhbAAIwHcJkC6CToFABYls X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,245,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="233530871" Message-ID: <4A66CC9D.6070506@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:23:57 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex dying :: NEED HELP ~ References: <2AC8D7DD-D1E7-49F8-AFDA-3AEA7D684AFA@charter.net> <20090721115732.297040@gmx.net> <3fa302e30907210753m1934931sed33996b7417ec6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:08:57 +0000 (UTC) This is the kind of fault that can usually be remedied by re-seating the chips. Sometimes just pushing down on them does it. Other times need to lever them up first. topu lyo wrote: > Hey everyone! > > i hope everyone is having a fantastic tuesday. > so i was getting ready for a rehearsal for a few > shows this weekend and my echoplex will > load up and then the numbers keep flashing > across the screen. every so often it will settle > down and look normal, and then when i hit > my midi pedal it will just make the numbers > flash across the screen again! > > if anyone has any help or info please call me > 347.683.5752 > > or hit me back here! thx so much in advance. > > topu > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 09:18:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F25E3BE79; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:18:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1248254306; l=11160; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:References:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=Au1Y2MOdrfGCEc46u6qZMvdpjEw=; b=cs+np1lpZPu+Xgl6lpEkTgoFSvnUsnKcLhh4pLyth2NDaW7QtGjTodSPaSQqhaKgmrY XaAmcbO9jGQIXAeX5EN3gMXeXexEMQqOP7aQEyKll9W60kXDZk3O0+rArgy24Cy10KUVp ttsx8YjVhdJPAnkB6VYHr6QmhwGsbRj1lSY= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <00f401ca0aad$d5fd2ec0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: "Loopers-Delight" References: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <480F2DD3-4F0B-4613-B915-57F7E047C251@btinternet.com> <006401ca09d8$06a60550$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <4A65CAE4.1090308@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Guitar to Midi Converter Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:05:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D7_01CA0ABC.432AFAA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:18:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D7_01CA0ABC.432AFAA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you all for your impressions and suggestions on Guitar to Midi. As = a cheap and easy-to-handle solution I will check out the Peterson = Sonuus. If it don=B4t work I still have the 30 days-money-back option... I=B4m gonna give you a report soon. Best, Christo ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dennis Moser=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:31 PM Subject: Re: Guitar to Midi Converter Well, since Ted brought up the GR-1 ...=20 I've only been using the Roland GK gear for 4 years ... I started with = a GK-2 on a Fender Squier and a GR-1 ... because I came to playing = electric from classical, I don't seem to have experienced some of the = complaints that others have mentioned that are technique-based. I added = a GR-20 to the mix about 3 years ago. Again, no problems as being = reported here. During that time, I also got a Godin xtSA that has a = 13-pin pickup built in to it. Again, no problems. I flirted briefly with an early Axon, but it was more primitive than = my GR-1 and not that close to my GR-20 so I sold it. The sounds were = good and I can only imagine that the newer ones are worth the money. = Again, I did not experience any issues from the "performance" stand = point, just limitations of it being an early model. Two year ago, I added a GI-20 interface and a Roland XV-2020 to drive = it. I am using Roland US-20's to switch between the various components. = Because my original GR-1 began to develop seriosu issues with the power = supply connection, I acquired another, expanded, one along with a = VG-8EX. (n.b., I am underwhelmed by the VG-8, possibly because I am not = into "Amp Models" and am looking at sound synthesis ... I may be putting = the VG-8 up for sale shortly). Likewise, since Fripp's name was raised by the original poster, his = most recent trip through the US revealed him STILL using the Roland GR-1 = ... it's tied into several Eventide Eclipses and other goodies, = including the latest Axon synth. He keeps the GR-1 as his primary guitar = interface/synthesizer because "he likes its' bell and chime sounds." = (Yes, I asked ... ) He is also using the Roland US-20 13-pin = switch/pedals. BTW, his guitars on this trip all had the 13-pin pickups = built in ... no external GKs. Conclusions (mine only!): The GKs seem to require some adjustment of = technique for some; there is lots of good used Roland and Axon synths = out there to be had if one wants to get into polyphonic guitar-driven = synthesis. THere are usually a number of GR-20/GK-2 and GI-20/GK-2 = packages on eBay on any given day. One advantage of using a GI-20 is = that it allows you to hook up ANY other MIDI synth source ... including = a Mac laptop running Garage Band ... or setting the GR-1 at #28 allows a = "blank" MIDI channel to drive other MIDI synths from the MIDI/OUT plug. = Lots of good solutions with a little searching and digging. Best, Dennis On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:11 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn = wrote: Hi all, I've spent several years using Roland GR synth gear and actually = have GK pickups on a number of my guitars. When it comes to tracking, yes there are issues concerning how = cleanly one picks and frets the notes on their instrument. There are also issues from instrument to instrument - no matter how = well you set up the hex pickup, some instruments still seem to track = slightly better than others. I think there are some guitars that are just not good candidates for = this stuff - but my experience is not extensive enough to say what the = factors involved actually are. Within the last year or two I've added a VG-99 to my kit as well. In addition to having the all the usual VG advantages (tracking = wise) the VG-99 also has pitch-to-MIDI conversion capabilities. These I have not made use of yet - but they're there as an option. I still have an old GR-1EX that I have used forever and am very = satisfied with. If I really needed pitch-to-MIDI I expect it would be more = convenient to use that. There are a lot of options out there though from other companies. Best, Ted Killian --=20 http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_00D7_01CA0ABC.432AFAA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you all for your impressions and = suggestions=20 on Guitar to Midi. As a cheap and easy-to-handle solution I will check out the Peterson Sonuus. If it = don=B4t work I still=20 have
the 30 days-money-back = option...
I=B4m gonna give you a report = soon.
Best,
Christo
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dennis=20 Moser
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 = 7:31=20 PM
Subject: Re: Guitar to Midi=20 Converter

Well, since Ted brought up the GR-1 ...

I've = only been=20 using the Roland GK gear for 4 years ... I started with a GK-2 on a = Fender=20 Squier and a GR-1 ... because I came to playing electric from = classical, I=20 don't seem to have experienced some of the complaints that others have = mentioned that are technique-based. I added a GR-20 to the mix about 3 = years=20 ago. Again, no problems as being reported here. During that time, I = also got a=20 Godin xtSA that has a 13-pin pickup built in to it. Again, no=20 problems.

I flirted briefly with an early Axon, but it was more = primitive than my GR-1 and not that close to my GR-20 so I sold it. = The sounds=20 were good and I can only imagine that the newer ones are worth the = money.=20 Again, I did not experience any issues from the "performance" stand = point,=20 just limitations of it being an early model.

Two year ago, I = added a=20 GI-20 interface and a Roland XV-2020 to drive it. I am using Roland = US-20's to=20 switch between the various components. Because my original GR-1 began = to=20 develop seriosu issues with the power supply connection, I acquired = another,=20 expanded, one along with a VG-8EX. (n.b., I am underwhelmed by the = VG-8,=20 possibly because I am not into "Amp Models" and am looking at sound = synthesis=20 ... I may be putting the VG-8 up for sale shortly).

Likewise, = since=20 Fripp's name was raised by the original poster, his most recent trip = through=20 the US revealed him STILL using the Roland GR-1 ... it's tied into = several=20 Eventide Eclipses and other goodies, including the latest Axon synth. = He keeps=20 the GR-1 as his primary guitar interface/synthesizer because "he likes = its'=20 bell and chime sounds." (Yes, I asked ... ) He is also using the = Roland US-20=20 13-pin switch/pedals. BTW, his guitars on this trip all had the 13-pin = pickups=20 built in ... no external GKs.

Conclusions (mine only!): The GKs = seem to=20 require some adjustment of technique for some; there is lots of good = used=20 Roland and Axon synths out there to be had if one wants to get into = polyphonic=20 guitar-driven synthesis. THere are usually a number of GR-20/GK-2 and=20 GI-20/GK-2 packages on eBay on any given day. One advantage of using a = GI-20=20 is that it allows you to hook up ANY other MIDI synth source ... = including a=20 Mac laptop running Garage Band ... or setting the GR-1 at #28 allows a = "blank"=20 MIDI channel to drive other MIDI synths from the MIDI/OUT plug. Lots = of good=20 solutions with a little searching and=20 digging.

Best,

Dennis


On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:11 AM, tEd =AE = KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>=20 wrote:
Hi=20 all,

I've spent several years using Roland GR synth gear and = actually=20 have GK pickups on a number of my guitars.

When it comes to = tracking,=20 yes there are issues concerning how cleanly one picks and frets the = notes on=20 their instrument.

There are also issues from instrument to = instrument=20 - no matter how well you set up the hex pickup, some instruments = still seem=20 to track slightly better than others.

I think there are some = guitars=20 that are just not good candidates for this stuff - but my experience = is not=20 extensive enough to say what the factors involved actually=20 are.

Within the last year or two I've added a VG-99 to my kit = as=20 well.

In addition to having the all the usual VG advantages = (tracking=20 wise) the VG-99 also has pitch-to-MIDI conversion = capabilities.

These=20 I have not made use of yet - but they're there as an = option.

I still=20 have an old GR-1EX that I have used forever and am very satisfied=20 with.

If I really needed pitch-to-MIDI I expect it would be = more=20 convenient to use that.

There are a lot of options out there = though=20 from other companies.

Best,

Ted=20 Killian




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http://audiozoloft.com
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------=_NextPart_000_00D7_01CA0ABC.432AFAA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 09:20:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9ACC03BE77; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:20:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GnItj4lVEEj3xR5+NwpWe/SFd2/nrb4Jhn13jO77RAQ=; b=kZlJTssMQAHJbfSk5JaK1KhyyR5wAyGYNx2nN8sodAtkIgNfcn1LPv1lWwcSzWtVi6 HGxYhzZpNIBbVfFhSM+p6md+NFJwxfWAvYMX85cxu6ayV5KMBIQm9C3GY7sPH6/lahrC CbtoUSAH3fBZf1KFwe+ucY0A+UraHZbK1cOH4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uAQFD+lRnqXpva8vWytXuW1qpkRjZntum1u0dTl+3OmLD/RAbUE2t97r1uRXClGcQ/ Vrto4Ue0tAeXJrZTh2v+fq8E7Rrmk2oedPsTdhm5BKj1EJ73vgddL+D4AxXn0JD8FZWk QdL3QyC0WtPtQK2ZAJKpbcVVlb3rt+RaHRpa8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A6637D4.6050101@flyloops.com> <66f9cc1e0907211741h1747088xba8d33266ebd75ef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:20:01 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907220220g5b6d7641xe34a7ab4b4a55de9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Loopers forum.. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:20:01 +0000 (UTC) Well, for me all fora are slower. A great deal of my time I work with information, administrating work and managing time to meat deadlines for me and other people. What g-mail offers me is the ability to keep colored labels for auto sorting of all the incoming so can see in just a glance what type of interaction a two hundred bunch of incoming messages needs from me. This makes it possible to plan other activities efficiently. With your communication spread out on a couple of fora there simply is no such dimension in planning ahead. But I just don't look at the screen and delete a topic here and there - I sort messages with a mouse, click and batch select loads of them by holding down the shift button for deleting an masse ;-)) And some I don't get delete right away but flag second/third priority to be dealt with an hour later. For example, when close to a certain magazine deadline all incoming messages from this magazines editors and co workers are automatically taking on a certain color when arriving at my screen to make it simple caring for them first hand. For the fora I am participating in I am setting up my account to duplicate posts and send to me as e-mails and I make sure I can post there by email too. This is just how I like things. The forum model still is more popular with most people and that's ok with me. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Mark Sottilaro wro= te: > I don't get it... to me it seems like a forum is a better use of your > time because it's all there for the pick'n as opposed to being forced > at you to sift though. =C2=A0When I see a "Help with EDP" thread here I > have to keep deleting the emails as they come in because I can't offer > anything useful to the conversation. =C2=A0If it's a thread on a forum, I > never really need to even see it if I don't go into the thread. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 11:01:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 510C23BE77; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:01:13 UTC Reply-To: From: "Erwin Van Heuverswyn" To: Subject: RE: Echoplex dying :: NEED HELP ~ Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:56:05 +0200 Organization: Ginkgo sound-vision Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Hello Topu, Looks like a MIDI loop problem to me! Do you have MIDI out of the echoplex connected to anything, or do you have other equipment connected to the MIDI pedal, that might cause the loop? In that case, I would just try disconnecting everything and reconnect one by one. Best regards, Erwin Van Heuverswyn Ginkgo sound-vision GSM: +32(0)486/11 84 30 ginkgo@telenet.be Krevelstraat 45 B9000 GENT BELGIUM -----Original Message----- From: topu lyo [mailto:topulyo@gmail.com] Sent: woensdag 22 juli 2009 0:04 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Echoplex dying :: NEED HELP ~ Hey everyone! i hope everyone is having a fantastic tuesday. so i was getting ready for a rehearsal for a few shows this weekend and my echoplex will load up and then the numbers keep flashing across the screen. every so often it will settle down and look normal, and then when i hit my midi pedal it will just make the numbers flash across the screen again! if anyone has any help or info please call me 347.683.5752 or hit me back here! thx so much in advance. topu No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.23/2254 - Release Date: 07/22/09 05:59:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 11:12:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25EE03BE78; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:12:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5a124da1-1499-4a0f-8934-b6f35f42c5df_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:11:59 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2009 11:11:59.0146 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B2E30A0:01CA0ABD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:12:00 +0000 (UTC) --_5a124da1-1499-4a0f-8934-b6f35f42c5df_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 Wow... =20 that really is good=2C I just listened to the few tracks i could find on th= e web...fantastic =20 =20 Ok so my tips for you in return are... =20 Tietur - The Singer=20 its beautiful affected vocals meld with moments on black and white cinema m= usic..i would say listen to it a few times and suddenly you fnd you "get" i= ts unique hooks =20 =20 Bon Iver - For Emma Forever Ago really nice semi acoustic album=2C very haunting =20 =20 enjoy Phill MyOneManBand =20 =20 =20 From: arzezak@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Date: Tue=2C 21 Jul 2009 22:54:23 -0300 I just can't believe what an amazingly inspiring=2C beautifully composed an= d wonderfully played cd it's Tiny Resistors by Todd Sickafoose's great band= (including two REAL interesting guitarists as Adam Levy and Mike Gamble). I can't recommend that cd enough.=20 El 21/07/2009=2C a las 21:22=2C Rick Walker escribi=F3: What are you guys and gals listening too? _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and emot= icons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/= --_5a124da1-1499-4a0f-8934-b6f35f42c5df_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Ok so my tips for you in return are...
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Tietur - The Singer
its beautiful affected vocals meld with moments on black and white cinema m= usic..i would say listen to it a few times and suddenly you fnd you "get" i= ts unique hooks
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Bon Iver - For Emma Forever Ago
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From: arzezak@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subje= ct: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable
Date: Tue=2C 21 Jul 2= 009 22:54:23 -0300

I just can't believe what an amazingly inspiring=2C beautifully compos= ed and wonderfully played cd it's Tiny Resistors by Todd Sickafoose's great= band (including two REAL interesting guitarists as Adam Levy and Mike Gamb= le).

I can't recommend that cd enough. =3B

El 21/07/2009=2C a las 21:22=2C Rick Walker escribi=F3:


What = are you guys and gals listening too?


Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free wink= s and emoticons. Get Them Now = --_5a124da1-1499-4a0f-8934-b6f35f42c5df_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 11:56:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2231B3BE79; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 36505 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:56:07 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=ZKFBh1PA3lbnytc0p9ePQKrHWSowh8RomOhEYkBFKzg=; b=mFhJAlTTwlDv848L9XbRLtq6q8gIunTkr5EuqtOOg6IumfrpmSyJtgv2gv43iQCAC1 0B5TnBiwNbsY7b0AQj+bJyh0pRow4OUJK5Fqs6rclll4KoWCt7namlRVe3N2CjHQ+Dkk 9m64JR3hj2dai0NdNGLFVbvix66P/3PyMZgjY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=UlyMo6CHMP0WS3KB3snLBuAyfEBIKgucp6DcyVSLkJcE7w8C3j6e7Q9XUKCOjtm95g u2P1HSp8JJbDmeQ2u1vWR6IcaIXB8iioKDSqKXbqxAhqcDo9CqN4ML30ECBTmJOsnzJB PVYLnWelU/CrFpykzjX9Gp0funbt+S3ocNjYY= Message-Id: From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--626377563 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:56:01 -0300 References: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <-rALh.A.nvD.X5vZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:56:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--626377563 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Phill! Glad you like that. Real nice suggestions from everyone here. I'll check your recommendations! Ariel. El 22/07/2009, a las 08:11, phillip wilson escribi=F3: > > > > Wow... > > that really is good, I just listened to the few tracks i could find =20= > on the web...fantastic > > > Ok so my tips for you in return are... > > Tietur - The Singer > its beautiful affected vocals meld with moments on black and white =20 > cinema music..i would say listen to it a few times and suddenly you =20= > fnd you "get" its unique hooks > > > Bon Iver - For Emma Forever Ago > really nice semi acoustic album, very haunting > > > enjoy > Phill MyOneManBand > > > > > From: arzezak@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:54:23 -0300 > > I just can't believe what an amazingly inspiring, beautifully =20 > composed and wonderfully played cd it's Tiny Resistors by Todd =20 > Sickafoose's great band (including two REAL interesting guitarists =20 > as Adam Levy and Mike Gamble). > > I can't recommend that cd enough. > > El 21/07/2009, a las 21:22, Rick Walker escribi=F3: > > > What are you guys and gals listening too? > > > > Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks =20 > and emoticons. Get Them Now --Apple-Mail-1--626377563 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Phill! Glad you = like that.

Real nice suggestions from everyone = here.

I'll check your = recommendations!

Ariel. 

= El 22/07/2009, a las 08:11, phillip wilson escribi=F3:

 
its beautiful affected = vocals meld with moments on black and white cinema music..i would say = listen to it a few times and suddenly you fnd you "get" its unique = hooks
 
 
Bon Iver - For Emma Forever Ago
really = nice semi acoustic album, very = haunting
 
 
enjoy
Phill = MyOneManBand
 
 

 
From: arzezak@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
Subject: Re: OT: What's on your = iPod/CDplayer/Turntable
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:54:23 = -0300

I just can't believe what an amazingly inspiring, = beautifully composed and wonderfully played cd it's Tiny Resistors by = Todd Sickafoose's great band (including two REAL interesting guitarists = as Adam Levy and Mike Gamble).

I can't = recommend that cd enough. 

El 21/07/2009, a las = 21:22, Rick Walker escribi=F3:


What are = you guys and gals listening = too?



Windows Live Messenger: = Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and emoticons. Get Them = Now

= --Apple-Mail-1--626377563-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 12:30:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 859703BE79; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A6706FF.8080304@het.it> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:33:03 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable References: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------010300060605050800020401" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090106-1, 06/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:30:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010300060605050800020401 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ah Yess!!! Tiny resistors! very nice, i'm listening it on i-tunes...
so i'll listen to Tietur and Bon iver...as you said.

Max Liver


Ariel Rzezak ha scritto:
Thanks Phill! Glad you like that.

Real nice suggestions from everyone here.

I'll check your recommendations!

Ariel. 

El 22/07/2009, a las 08:11, phillip wilson escribió:


 
 
Wow...
 
that really is good, I just listened to the few tracks i could find on the web...fantastic
 
 
Ok so my tips for you in return are...
 
Tietur - The Singer 
its beautiful affected vocals meld with moments on black and white cinema music..i would say listen to it a few times and suddenly you fnd you "get" its unique hooks
 
 
Bon Iver - For Emma Forever Ago
really nice semi acoustic album, very haunting
 
 
enjoy
Phill MyOneManBand
 
 

 
From: arzezak@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:54:23 -0300

I just can't believe what an amazingly inspiring, beautifully composed and wonderfully played cd it's Tiny Resistors by Todd Sickafoose's great band (including two REAL interesting guitarists as Adam Levy and Mike Gamble).

I can't recommend that cd enough. 

El 21/07/2009, a las 21:22, Rick Walker escribió:


What are you guys and gals listening too?



Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and emoticons. Get Them Now



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luq8b6zZL//pf/v6v//83//+//8A8U/gQIIFDR5EmFDhQoYJAwIAOw== --------------010300060605050800020401-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 12:38:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A23F63BE79; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3620 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:38:40 UTC Message-id: <4A66FA23.4060907@soundscapes.us> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:38:11 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #641 for July 16, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:38:40 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090716.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #641 July 16, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on the Jeffrey Koepper. The Featured CD at Midnight was Sequentaria on Air Space Records. Jeffrey Koepper: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#jul PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Create Collision In the Blink of an Eye (Groove) Forrest Fang A Walk Through the Phantoms (Projekt) Clouds Cluster Xanesra Qua (Nepenthe) Citizen Green Chloroplast Plant Cell (High Grade Media) Citizen Green Vacuole Plant Cell (High Grade Media) Steve Roach A Darker Light Dynamic Stillness (Projekt) Jeffrey Koepper Blue Sector Sequentaria (Air Space) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Jeffrey Koepper Astral Projection Sequentaria (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper Timeline Sequentaria (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper Near Machinery Sequentaria (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper Interphase Sequentaria (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper Synchronous Sequentaria (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper Parallel Being Sequentaria (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper One Hundred Memories Sequentaria (Air Space) Jeffrey Koepper Creation Sequentaria (Air Space) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Jeffrey Koepper. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Luminosity on Air Space Records. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 13:03:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDF783BE80; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1248267819; l=1568; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=0+1ZDRbkXK5n6e9mN6OyA0SHAK4=; b=f1UKm9lKqLgDuT7mxzzKLvIXm28OuYk6vcexwWC2DIee3M8Z6uz0vuNTOE1jb726GFf dYOetw3jjkCRs8IdnW+ZFdhM2VwMXQcHwmSNlq+v/GW3LRwmy6Cd83TpRkX2BkNg91iIp JbMYOHYMTiGjFDAzGDougNpGA59lkgDljRk= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <002901ca0acd$4e210240$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <101191640907201048r4febb9d6p3706da7141c0a9c3@mail.gmail.com> <000001ca0995$446a8890$cd3f99b0$@com> <5D86AB3C66E24E12A4A092B1029EDBC5@office> Subject: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50? Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:06:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Buy the RC-50! The Digitech may be good too but has no Midi as far as I know. The RC-50 certainly has very few not so nice issues ( the sound could be a bit better, very short loops don´t work). But I find it rather irrelevant compared to the low price and all the positive features it comes with: 3 separate loop ways you can use simultaneously or switch from one to the other. Tap Tempo, reverse-playmode, drummachine inside. Several outputs you can route to different sources (Mixer, amps etc.). There may be better looping devices but if you wanna have a hardware looper this is the one. Best, Christo www.christojota.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "BC" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:59 AM Subject: What are the current probs w/RC-50? > I've been a somewhat quiet member of the group for some time now and I've > noticed that during the past 2 years there have been lots of complaints > about the RC-50 in terms of dropouts, glitches, etc. > > Would you guys mind bringing me up-to-date on the current status of this > unit? Has Boss ironed out the problems with updated firmware? If not, what > issues remain? > > I want to replace my Boomerang because of its inferior fidelity, but I don't > want to trade that problem for other issues. > > If you wouldn't recommend the RC-50 to replace the 'rang, then what would be > a better idea? Digitech Jamman? Something else? > > I need to cap the budget at $500. > > Thanks everyone! > > Brian > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 13:15:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B91A3BE84; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:15:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1248268535; bh=maQ3Mw5SKeX56fbUOdILCGLoWSIXNTozcPtn+A4Fsno=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=hdxt5/E5aOlkJxelPDggPwz6i4uTxzhmpdV99c8vESHNSfnXisQJ0MVeFt4eH1uOz QeLEwT/f39V+fPq8VHF1L+TPo/TOGHAY8VT2GTAG2cAjSsSZ7ck/43T39p4ohdEvuU PYZiZSIrSZhzb+SV0Dr1git8wjl8ypLbe0ZUowWE= Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:15:34 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: How to use moebius and guitar rig together MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:15:36 +0000 (UTC) Ciao Massimo, Good to see you are experimenting with new equipment :) I have experience= with both Bidule and Mainstage as host applications. Mainstage is part o= f Logic Studio 8 and although Bidule is more flexible, I like the simplic= ity of the user interface and quality of the effect plugins...simple and = good. Regarding loopers, I use the LP1 as my main looper but I could use Mobius= as well. Augustus, Crossfade loopsynth and Little Spacy from Expert Slee= pers are used as pre-loopers. Mainstage and all the plugins are synced to= the midi clock of the LP1. Btw: I have used this setup in both Firenze and Rome, together with the P= rophet synthesizer, remember? The prophet was also processed inside Mains= tage with FX and pre-loopers. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 13:16:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79D443BE84; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Znm6za3H6Ax7T0lX7SCj12QDwadIkYjMUYHcQzANAwE=; b=h7e1C8BVx2lntwETuB866KnvNFSf23swXmBX8gqBHFAjfzwW1JyZn79tonZrv4lwgE ENRkFVBS5ekIxvV5eYhu0kjhNf47LXCFsgvosomeB4tldEmQNz6+dh/qbhFtMpI00VUv 2cRXUju3zsntjGEFY4DOIPARH5jAHUQfOj5PU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=UTltHilUaL5cPB81jRWL1W6OtiUafOCpH/+FGINeY/0PSM5eb35T/p0jxC3tS35Lda hixxNkCiKRjm/AynVoAB89Uo4PJ1J3Z5t1JWgDYxMCzKXhKnvrzfRIsxmrG4bBUzhJQy DSM+XEakjH5z0ynw+z6yUsq97AjauBusnxT+Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:16:21 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907220616x1fd7c16ei1f6feb7fa0df5f19@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Whow, Rick, a good idea to steer discussion back into some more interesting (albeit still OT) paths. No, I don't have an iPod, and I really hate the white headphone cables they use. As for headphones for ithings and similar mp3/media players, let me just recommend the Bose thingies - highly recommended (although they were about double the price of my portable media player). Now let me just check the memory of my player: Tool: Aenima/Lateralus/10.000 Days Chick Corea: Akoustic Band - can't recommend this acoustic jazz trio highly enough. The version of "Spain" alone is worth the album alone. Jimi Hendrix: Are you Experienced? Squarepusher: Big Loada Dream Theater: Black Clouds and Silver Linings - their latest album, I have to say I don't enjoy it as much as some of their other works (including Systematic Chaos), but the third bonus disc with some cover tunes (including LTIA2) is fun! Opeth: Blackwater Park - some outstanding progressive death metal from a group which was then (imo) at the peak of their artistic quality (at least so far). Zappa/Beefheart: Bongo Fury Dave Douglas: Convergence Laswell/Inoe: Monochrome Existence Antwerp Live Looping Festival - some of the tracks by Michael Peters and Luis Angulo are just killer! Weather Report: I sing the body electric Kruder&Dorfmeister: DJ Kicks/The K&D Sessions Louis Sclavis: Lost on the way Massacre: Meltdown Rage against the Machine - Rage against the Machine - the tune "Wake Up" is so funky, it will drop your pants Audioslave: Revelations - the last track "Moth" is the best track from this group Ozric Tentacles: Sprials in Hyperspace Talking Heads: Stop Making Sense Conlon Nancarrow: Studies for Player Piano John Zorn: The Circle Maker - Disc 2 Naked City: Torture Garden Evelyn Glennie: Wind in the Bamboo Groves Rainer Straschill: Weird Specialist - yes, I still like it ;) The Boredoms: Vision Creation Newsun Margaret Noble: West of Ashland Ave DJ Mixtape Michael Brecker: Wide Angles - was reminded of him just recently by the list of WordPress release names A Mental Collection: my personal metal playlist @Jim Goodin: I believe the Towner album you're talking about is called "Solo Concert", if so, it's one of my favourites as well (it's the one that ends with "Timeless"). Legend has it that I actually attended one of the performances which led to this album without actually having been born at that time, as my parents attended the concert with me on the way... Best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 13:25:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 805D33BE85; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:25:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <25082.66.162.182.108.1248268806.squirrel@www.redsunsoundroom.com> In-Reply-To: <4A6706FF.8080304@het.it> References: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> <4A6706FF.8080304@het.it> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:20:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable From: "p koniuto" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: peter@RedSunSoundroom.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jade.liquidweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - RedSunSoundroom.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:25:59 +0000 (UTC) I'm listening to a lot of what Rick Walker is listening to, apparently! [Rick, i owe you like seven e-mails...i haven't blown you off, i'm just swamped.] - All of Brian Blades's albums - Daniel Lanois - Here Is What Is - Daniel Lanois - Omni Series - Nine Inch Nails - Ghosts - A bunch of Ethiopian nightclub music - Goldfrapp's latest - Julee Cruise - The Art Of Being A Girl - Tortoise - TNT mostly, but there latest as well - Max Raabe - Loscil - Plume (absolutely gorgeous) - All of Juana Molina's albums - The Pretenders - their latest - Pixieguts (can't remember the album, it's free on the internet) - Rachel's - Systems/Layers - Taken By Trees - Open Fied - Tim Nelson's stuff (Mesh, and All-Nighter) - I've been getting into Tarentel lately - I, too, like the latest Jon Hassell album quite a lot Peter Koniuto From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 13:36:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 151693BE7E; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:36:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=NlgPbp9YU7bYLYZLG+Iswm3a1c1qZvFlRTRXMIRkaIE=; b=lIDo5GZ8AmcSMSZV/StrCvHF2rzHfKSHdoRHNYtq7SXotGaGC+Q290DhC+zU8nGOU6 HOygdWTa89ZbEsY+yckZBN3oq7/cA1zGITxiQ0TYT6FuVqW9TD8s+JBMJQNPURtT0QeD qk2QGtFiqXOgEp02IogLH5zv7ABa2MLmcoZbo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=FFKzy+KffuiHsWUu8vS9WtT72f5IWTgNZDvkPKqYvPAFGm2/BYNHBAK+++OCjqLyLJ GCibeX2HUMqoxon4EdTZfokqo8YQLcBdOdI8o7yWDrWlyTNbk11Qwv+pIwFNj9yPzRFH FTAeuLgVoXhqB6nWtjKhp6tnP8IlNSkuDyiVA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <25082.66.162.182.108.1248268806.squirrel@www.redsunsoundroom.com> References: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> <4A6706FF.8080304@het.it> <25082.66.162.182.108.1248268806.squirrel@www.redsunsoundroom.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:35:38 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 05df1eb7aece1a21 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907220635k2affd198m5cb331776d60ecbf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c0f0c83ac02046f4b7366 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:36:01 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c0f0c83ac02046f4b7366 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On my iPod i currently have 2 things. Everything by the Beatles (I mean everything... all the anthologys all the albums all the early recordings with Tony Sheridan all the acoustic versions of Lucy in the sky etc... Everything (well not eveything, that would be impossible ) but 50 albums by Merzbow. Its actually called Merzbox! spans his career from tape hiss days thru analog to the recent laptop stuff... I play a random mix. So "Carcass on the floor" from the Sadomasochismo album can easily be followed by a rehersal for "When Im Sixty four"... The iPod is full now... -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c0f0c83ac02046f4b7366 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On my iPod i currently have 2 things.

Everything by the Beatles (I m= ean everything... all the anthologys all the albums all the early recording= s with Tony Sheridan all the acoustic versions of Lucy in the sky etc...
Everything (well not eveything, that would be impossible ) but 50 album= s by Merzbow. Its actually called Merzbox! spans his career from tape hiss = days thru analog to the recent laptop stuff...

I play a random mix. = So "Carcass on the floor" from the Sadomasochismo album can easil= y be followed by a rehersal for "When Im Sixty four"...

The iPod is full now...


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http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--0015174c0f0c83ac02046f4b7366-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 13:37:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1FE63BE82; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:37:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1248269865; bh=BJxxqahbk1FyJWPaCCXDgD59YQolQW2tEZC9YdPOjM4=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=XwfMbM7aL3m3v1SqK48PmD8963ct3nAkS9OwcWgNKziWd55WHAotOrYUWK8KR5yak Ji/91pDhp2nQEsSqXSkmcVZEXEQ830hI9XmDu6AsxXwjah3miuIoLAdpREwbclFuCw S8BBXjP0tx1YLsx3g5FRUenrtDYhBvp1jfVTxL04= Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:37:45 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re:OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.85 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <3_qfv.A.95H.qYxZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:37:46 +0000 (UTC) I'm driving 3-5 hours each day in my car, so I have plenty of time to lis= ten to all kinds of music. Experimental or Ambient stuff from this list, = but also Jazz, popular rock or progressive rock. Depends on my mood ;) Recent favourites: Jon Hassel, Sigur Ros, Porcupine Tree, David Sylvian, = Theo Travis, Simple Minds, Michael Peters, Microphonics, 3 seconds of Air= , Fabio Anile, Darkroom, Pedaltone, Bernard Wagner, Steve Lawson --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 13:40:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B3FF3BE7C; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A671765.7000909@het.it> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:43:01 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: How to use moebius and guitar rig together References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------090002050108080803050202" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090106-1, 06/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:40:47 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090002050108080803050202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sjaak ha scritto: 
Ciao Massimo,
Good to see you are experimenting with new equipment :) I have experience with both Bidule and Mainstage as host applications. Mainstage is part of Logic Studio 8 and although Bidule is more flexible, I like the simplicity of the user interface and quality of the effect plugins...simple and good.
Hi sjaak! great Sjaak! (especially your inches...:-) he he )
So i don't have logic studio but i tried an host using a demo version  of  Ableton Live,  but now i dwnld Bidule and I'l try with it! 

Regarding loopers, I use the LP1 as my main looper but I could use Mobius as well. Augustus, Crossfade loopsynth and Little Spacy from Expert Sleepers are used as pre-loopers. Mainstage and all the plugins are synced to the midi clock of the LP1.

Btw: I have used this setup in both Firenze and Rome, together with the Prophet synthesizer, remember? The prophet was also processed inside Mainstage with FX and pre-loopers.
If i remember? i remeber it very well!!!
have a good evening!

Max Liver
Sjaak
http://euroloopfest.com/
http://sjaakovergaauw.com/


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Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Wow! That's one of my favourite ensemble albums ever! Ariel. El 22/07/2009, a las 10:16, Rainer Straschill escribi=F3: > Michael Brecker: Wide Angles - was reminded of him just recently by From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 13:47:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1132D3BE80; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:47:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=b8fIK5ABXi5xt0mJhZJzYbqD2PzbsCg2coUH6c0rvwTiXRubiLFo8GGkTzv13HSE; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:45:29 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: TONIGHT..! Gig Spam: Chuck Zwicky and Ralph Gibson at "The Stone" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-963852165==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec798c96ca527ad3235b8a8c0b6defdf274d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: <7vQj_.A.Aj.XhxZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:47:04 +0000 (UTC) --============_-963852165==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=102021637855 A concert in the STATE OF THE AXE Festival taking place during July at The Stone. A new book "State Of The Axe-Guitar Masters in Photographs and Words" by Ralph Gibson, published by The Houston Museum Of Fine Arts, and distributed by Yale University Press. It is widely available and will be on sale at The Stone. This performance features Ralph Gibson & Chuck Zwicky Ralph Gibson -Ich Bin Die Nacht (electric guitar, photography) Ralph Gibson's images in film with live accompaniment for solo electric guitar. Chuck Zwicky - "extemporaneous ephemera and site specific ambient improv for solo guitar and electrical memory" -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-963852165==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" TONIGHT..! Gig Spam: Chuck Zwicky and Ralph Gibson at "The
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A concert in the STATE OF THE AXE Festival taking place during July at The Stone.

A new book "State Of The Axe-Guitar Masters in Photographs and Words" by Ralph Gibson, published by The Houston Museum Of Fine Arts, and distributed by Yale University Press. It is widely available and will be on sale at The Stone.

This performance features Ralph Gibson & Chuck Zwicky

Ralph Gibson -Ich Bin Die Nacht (electric guitar, photography) Ralph Gibson's images in film with live accompaniment for solo electric guitar.

Chuck Zwicky - "extemporaneous ephemera and site specific ambient improv for solo guitar and electrical memory"


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--============_-963852165==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 14:11:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2CDC3BE7C; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 234146008/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.136.31/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.136.31 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsQBAA+7ZkpPRogf/2dsb2JhbAAI0hiEDgWJbA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,247,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="234146008" Message-ID: <4A672182.40408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:26:10 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable References: <7334ca1b0907220616x1fd7c16ei1f6feb7fa0df5f19@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907220616x1fd7c16ei1f6feb7fa0df5f19@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3_77w.A.8WB.93xZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > Massacre: Meltdown with Fred Frith or a different outfit with the same name? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 14:37:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 438893BE85; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:37:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4A661008.2050302@flyloops.com> References: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <480F2DD3-4F0B-4613-B915-57F7E047C251@btinternet.com> <4A651F50.4040108@flyloops.com> <4A661008.2050302@flyloops.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6C8E9C62-DAE9-487B-A07A-F19F282F6E2F@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: iphone looper ... apparently Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:37:18 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc179.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: <8M4esD.A.cYC.iQyZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:37:22 +0000 (UTC) > Right, JUCE is *mostly Cocoa now .... with a few carbon bits here and > there to support certain frameworks where Carbon is required. I was > unsure where those bits were, but assumed they were substantial enough > to make my application not work ... perhaps I was wrong. I'll be pleasantly surprised if this is true, but I'm 99.9% certain this can't run on an iPhone. It isn't just Cocoa, it's the Cocoa component library that was crafted specifically for the iPhone. I have an iTouch and I've dabbled with iPhone development. You have to get a special version of Xcode with iPhone libraries. The other thing that is suspicious is that you can't just copy Mac apps onto an iPhone. You either have to download them from Apple's "App Store" (which requires an approval process to put them there), or you have to buy the $500 commercial developer SDK which includes the tools necessary to distribute private apps. I just checked and Flyloops isn't in the App Store. So unless the author shelled out $500 and built your app from source code, I don't see how he could have run it on an iPhone. I think he misspoke in the article title. The last para even says "Available for Mac and Windows", nothing about iPhone in the text. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 15:53:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF6F93BE7E; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> References: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:52:59 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:53:06 +0000 (UTC) At 5:22 PM -0700 7/21/09, Rick Walker wrote: > >What are you guys and gals listening too? Recently in heavy rotation: M83 -- "Dead Cities, Red Seas, and Lost Ghosts" William Basinski -- "The Disintegration Loops III" Hybrid -- "I Choose Noise" Jon Hassell -- "Live from Stockholm Jazzfest" (Thanks Per!!! :) Telefon Tel Aviv -- "Remixes Compiled" --m. -- _____ "bye-bye empire; empire, bye-bye" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 16:00:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C1E23BE81; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:00:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <36773.66.162.182.108.1248278094.squirrel@www.redsunsoundroom.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907220635k2affd198m5cb331776d60ecbf@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> <4A6706FF.8080304@het.it> <25082.66.162.182.108.1248268806.squirrel@www.redsunsoundroom.com> <9ab0c76f0907220635k2affd198m5cb331776d60ecbf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable From: "p koniuto" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: peter@RedSunSoundroom.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jade.liquidweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - RedSunSoundroom.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:00:47 +0000 (UTC) Mark, You are a beautifully sick and twisted man. Peter > I play a random mix. So "Carcass on the floor" from the Sadomasochismo > album > can easily be followed by a rehersal for "When Im Sixty four"... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 16:54:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1F423BE80; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:54:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 872 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:54:40 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=ix.netcom.com; b=lTj9BbbR9J49NAhB3MSOe8KzHuSw1YMuKDYZhSkd+ZmpEaltY9rhN6EZyrdwQqar; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <14818240.1248280808352.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:40:08 -0400 (EDT) From: synchro1 Reply-To: synchro1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 7c4b038661a0657e74cfc7ce3b1ad11381c87f5e519606888087777120f7b2d7b8b4ba855e856439350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.30 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:54:40 +0000 (UTC) Mel Torme - Swings Schubert Alley - perhaps greatest vocal jazz lp of all time? Miles Davis - Sketches of Spain McDonald & Giles - s/t Van Dyke Parks - Discover America Sarah Vaughan - Ballads Zoe Keating - One Cello x 16 Tim Buckley - Happy Sad M. Ward - Hold Time Glen Campbell - Meet Glen Campbell Eddi Reader - Candyfloss & medicine Nik Kershaw - 15 Minutes Rosemary Clooney - Rosie Solves the Swingin' Riddle Ornette Coleman - Body Meta mixed bag, a lot of "summer" listening. The Mel Torme album is just freaking incredible and is in near-constant rotation; the Zoe Keating is for late-night listening in the dark. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 17:32:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29DCB3BE80; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:32:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3V46lXJAwVc1PcpUeW8A9UijajlVSJsmtOK9hMdxfrM=; b=OmsAJzJvEbzCY9rPg6HLYE/o83ouFvVugOHNoAdPjraOosLZwjQgt/6HAWbX8B4LvF ybncFAFxDgOnJLx2J7HLKXIGKWr+gdNm7Rq2bK3XtVRUoaoznPh+Ob4kABWDv5WAO5Wv zbrroxqO+JtBKT4K6aO1588Vnk5mj0y9byEgc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=J4uWlJaDDNHgV8S9nMWtqls5sFth+ckKbJMM691CByjcjPSI/fNHsx8oG8tHFGidRp E/rJV+OzpyutTLGu+DqI1M44wOZ4rsaaFdiY+493l3Fm+KzSpGf6DUfJ+1gd6G8LmsyB mNFfjqwdXlulFs82KitzdImlPy8STFWsmAG78= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907220220g5b6d7641xe34a7ab4b4a55de9@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A6637D4.6050101@flyloops.com> <66f9cc1e0907211741h1747088xba8d33266ebd75ef@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907220220g5b6d7641xe34a7ab4b4a55de9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:32:25 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30907221032oc9c264cv940907bd89f5fe78@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Loopers forum.. From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:32:28 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Andy, Besides that fact: Imagine you finally manage to get all your friends to hang out at a single pub, or whatever. Most of them really enjoy the fact that they catch up with EVERYONE constantly, no hitches. Then the place expands and creates several new rooms=97It gets harder to know who's really in the building. Then someone says, "I know another place where we could hang out!" and yet another group of friends depart. That's what I've found forums do to groups=97divide, diffuse, pacify. I find EVERYONE in my email, sort them into folders; make a rule to delete anything with in the text of subject; have gmail add a star to anything that says "OT! FLAME WAR!" etc. I do this for a good many e-lists and find them regularly populated with useful info from all my fave avocations. What's the problem here? -m Andy Butler wrote: > that's all there is to it, the mailing list thrives. The forum is quiet. > I think LD has between 100-200 signed up members which is the same as tha= t forum. So for the number of participants we have, the mailing list produces (for better or worse) animated discussion, and the forum doesn't. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 18:04:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DE263BE7C; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:04:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <9B6CFFC2DB3D41A7A7529C6E6EE6363E@DTT60> From: "Dave Trenkel" To: References: <14818240.1248280808352.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:03:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-ID: n6MI3veZ002100 X-mailscanner1-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.549, required 6, autolearn=not spam, AWL 0.05, BAYES_00 -2.60, STOX_REPLY_TYPE 0.00) X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-From: improv@peak.org X-Spam-Status: No Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:04:02 +0000 (UTC) I like these listening lists, it's always a great source for new music. Last CD's I got: Sun Ra: With Pharoah Sanders and Black Harold: reissue of an extremely rare mid-60's Saturn LP. I actually have the LP, but the CD adds 45 extra minutes of better recorded tracks. This is the energy music side of the Arkestra, and Sanders, who was new to NYC at the time of this recording, is already sounding killer. John McLaughlin/Chick Corea: Five Peace Band Live and Return To Forever: Live at Montreaux (DVD). In hight school in the 70's, I idolized Corea, especially the RTF quartet stuff. I pretty much quit listening to him after the Elektrik Band's glossy FM overload, but these two releases have just been klicking my ass. Both of these are just killer, the new RTF seems to have a deeper pocket than they ever did in the 70's, and the 5PB is pure fusion, excellent musicianship and a lot of fire. Mulatu Astatke with the Heliocentrics: Mulatu is an Ethiopian musician/arranger/bandleader behind much of the excellent Ethio-funk of the 70's, and The Heliocentrics are a young British band with a vast 70's fixation. It's a perfect match, Mulatu's slinky grooves and strange modal melodies tastefully updated with touches of hip hop and electronics. Secret Chiefs 3: The Severed Right Hands of the Last Men (title is actually in Italian, but I don't have the disc with me and am too lazy to look it up). Speaking of 70's fixations, this is a soundtrack to an imaginary Italian horror film. If I didn't know better, I'd swear it was a lost Morricone or Goblin rarity, even the recording quality fits with the era. Also, the new Tortoise is very nice, lots of cool distorted analog synths. But the majority of my listening lately has been stuff I've downloaded from avantgardeproject.org: an archjive of about 150 lp's of out of print academic electronic and 20th Century classical music. Lp's are transferred from vinyl with extreme fidelity, even the mp3 versions sound excellent, and it's really a wealth of interesting music. Material by Parmegiani, Berio, Subotnick, Kagel, Cage and many others, including composers I've never heard of, and I've been kind of obsessed with this stuff since college. Probably of special interest to this list are several late-70's Henry Kasier recordings. This archive is simply astounding, it'll take me weeks of listening to just make a first pass through this. Seems like I've been living in the past lately :-) Also, I should second Rick's recomendation of Nik Bartsch's Ronin, I have both of their ECM discs and they are incredible. It's like the concepts of 80's Krimson as played by a chamber-jazz ensemble. Great stuff. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 18:28:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C28A3BE79; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <9B6CFFC2DB3D41A7A7529C6E6EE6363E@DTT60> References: <14818240.1248280808352.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <9B6CFFC2DB3D41A7A7529C6E6EE6363E@DTT60> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--602820534 Message-Id: <716205CC-2940-4F39-8A8A-92DFCBCAB89F@ubergadget.com> From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:28:38 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:28:48 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--602820534 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Nurse With Wound-The Surveillance Lounge Throbbing Gristle-The Third Mind Movements Iannis Xenakis- Electronic Music Iannis Xenakis-Pleiades Franco Battiato-Sulle Corde di Aries Wonderwall Music by George Harrison Edward Ka-Spel- Dream Logik, Part Two Brian Eno-Discreet Music Brian Eno-The Shutov Assembly (Looper Thomas O'Neill) Myxproject-Instance Andrew Liles & Jean-Herve Peron- Fini! Mort Garson-Black Mass Lucifer Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come- Journey (and the list goes on and on and on....ad infinitum...) Cheers, Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ On Jul 22, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Dave Trenkel wrote: > I like these listening lists, it's always a great source for new > music. > > Last CD's I got: > Sun Ra: With Pharoah Sanders and Black Harold: reissue of an > extremely rare mid-60's Saturn LP. I actually have the LP, but the > CD adds 45 extra minutes of better recorded tracks. This is the > energy music side of the Arkestra, and Sanders, who was new to NYC > at the time of this recording, is already sounding killer. > > John McLaughlin/Chick Corea: Five Peace Band Live and Return To > Forever: Live at Montreaux (DVD). In hight school in the 70's, I > idolized Corea, especially the RTF quartet stuff. I pretty much > quit listening to him after the Elektrik Band's glossy FM overload, > but these two releases have just been klicking my ass. Both of > these are just killer, the new RTF seems to have a deeper pocket > than they ever did in the 70's, and the 5PB is pure fusion, > excellent musicianship and a lot of fire. > > Mulatu Astatke with the Heliocentrics: Mulatu is an Ethiopian > musician/arranger/bandleader behind much of the excellent Ethio- > funk of the 70's, and The Heliocentrics are a young British band > with a vast 70's fixation. It's a perfect match, Mulatu's slinky > grooves and strange modal melodies tastefully updated with touches > of hip hop and electronics. > > Secret Chiefs 3: The Severed Right Hands of the Last Men (title is > actually in Italian, but I don't have the disc with me and am too > lazy to look it up). Speaking of 70's fixations, this is a > soundtrack to an imaginary Italian horror film. If I didn't know > better, I'd swear it was a lost Morricone or Goblin rarity, even > the recording quality fits with the era. > > Also, the new Tortoise is very nice, lots of cool distorted analog > synths. > > But the majority of my listening lately has been stuff I've > downloaded from avantgardeproject.org: an archjive of about 150 > lp's of out of print academic electronic and 20th Century classical > music. Lp's are transferred from vinyl with extreme fidelity, even > the mp3 versions sound excellent, and it's really a wealth of > interesting music. Material by Parmegiani, Berio, Subotnick, Kagel, > Cage and many others, including composers I've never heard of, and > I've been kind of obsessed with this stuff since college. Probably > of special interest to this list are several late-70's Henry Kasier > recordings. This archive is simply astounding, it'll take me weeks > of listening to just make a first pass through this. > > Seems like I've been living in the past lately :-) > > Also, I should second Rick's recomendation of Nik Bartsch's Ronin, > I have both of their ECM discs and they are incredible. It's like > the concepts of 80's Krimson as played by a chamber-jazz ensemble. > Great stuff. --Apple-Mail-2--602820534 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Nurse With Wound-The Surveillance Lounge
Throbbing Gristle-The Third = Mind Movements
Iannis Xenakis- Electronic = Music
Iannis Xenakis-Pleiades
Franco Battiato-Sulle = Corde di Aries
Wonderwall Music by George = Harrison
Edward Ka-Spel- Dream Logik, Part Two
Brian = Eno-Discreet Music
Brian Eno-The Shutov = Assembly
(Looper Thomas O'Neill) =  Myxproject-Instance
Andrew Liles & Jean-Herve Peron- = Fini!
Mort Garson-Black Mass Lucifer
Arthur Brown's = Kingdom Come- Journey

(and the list goes on and = on and on....ad = infinitum...)

Cheers,
Rev = Fever

On Jul 22, = 2009, at 11:03 AM, Dave Trenkel wrote:

I like these listening lists, it's always a great = source for new music.
Last CD's I got:
Sun Ra: With Pharoah Sanders and Black Harold: = reissue of an extremely rare mid-60's Saturn LP. I actually have the LP, = but the CD adds 45 extra minutes of better recorded tracks. This is the = energy music side of the Arkestra, and Sanders, who was new to NYC at = the time of this recording, is already sounding killer.

John = McLaughlin/Chick Corea: Five Peace Band Live and Return To Forever: Live = at Montreaux (DVD). In hight school in the 70's, I idolized Corea, = especially the RTF quartet stuff. I pretty much quit listening to him = after the Elektrik Band's glossy FM overload, but these two releases = have just been klicking my ass. Both of these are just killer, the new = RTF seems to have a deeper pocket than they ever did in the 70's, and = the 5PB is pure fusion, excellent musicianship and a lot of = fire.

Mulatu Astatke with the Heliocentrics: Mulatu is an = Ethiopian musician/arranger/bandleader behind much of the excellent = Ethio-funk of the 70's, and The Heliocentrics are a young British band = with a vast 70's fixation. It's a perfect match, Mulatu's slinky grooves = and strange modal melodies tastefully updated with touches of hip hop = and electronics.

Secret Chiefs 3: The Severed Right Hands of the Last = Men (title is actually in Italian, but I don't have the disc with me and = am too lazy to look it up). Speaking of 70's fixations, this is a = soundtrack to an imaginary Italian horror film. If I didn't know better, = I'd swear it was a lost Morricone or Goblin rarity, even the recording = quality fits with the era.

Also, the new Tortoise is very = nice, lots of cool distorted analog synths.

But the = majority of my listening lately has been stuff I've downloaded from = avantgardeproject.org: an archjive of about 150 lp's of out of print = academic electronic and 20th Century classical music. Lp's are = transferred from vinyl with extreme fidelity, even the mp3 versions = sound excellent, and it's really a wealth of interesting music. Material = by Parmegiani, Berio, Subotnick, Kagel, Cage and many others, including = composers I've never heard of, and I've been kind of obsessed with this = stuff since college. Probably of special interest to this list are = several late-70's Henry Kasier recordings. This archive is simply = astounding, it'll take me weeks of listening to just make a first pass = through this.

Seems like I've been living in the past lately = :-)

Also, I should second Rick's recomendation of Nik = Bartsch's Ronin, I have both of their ECM discs and they are incredible. = It's like the concepts of 80's Krimson as played by a chamber-jazz = ensemble. Great stuff. 

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= --Apple-Mail-2--602820534-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 20:12:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DF533BE79; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1248293521; bh=ycgjC80EoeGk3WrbdQ5Upa9juRVC1K1XunhofrVb7bQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=HX+IwFBw7PxDb/EyjNHnECXrNM0wfGpI81+Z3FWvXadrgtXCiMRh+/43Z+AmTzxTe ynrr6ln+HQaWnyrc1kB6paRABjihbhE2khZeRAjWsVKAcGt+5JOVJ4U7YkrtPaNVDg XOoAdX2HPMJKIcE2SNvEMOgvYsuo9MBnFBS9YSmY= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: What are the current probs w/RC-50? Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:11:35 +0200 Message-ID: <000001ca0b08$9db79ae0$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcoJqAScHo3jedRFQhGzeV6UGhv1iABYGTIg In-Reply-To: <5D86AB3C66E24E12A4A092B1029EDBC5@office> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Check out my rc-50 FAQ on my site: http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/rc50.shtml --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 20:26:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 328443BE78; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:26:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A6776CB.4040206@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:30:03 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Uptown Flash 4x1 manual References: <4A65DA45.4090200@post.cybercity.dk> <000e01ca0a1d$a4b95860$7c862245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A65ECE7.5090000@post.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:26:47 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the offer. In the mean time, my German friend, who started off needed the manual and got me onto this device, just located the PDF manual. I'm about reading it, and will decide on the offer I have. Looks pretty interesting, and AFAIK, audio quality should be great. I'm still unsure if it'll do what I want (rewire 2-3 guitar preamps and a pedal in series and/or parallel/stacked) without one of the other companion devices. Anything I should know ? Trevor Van Eyck wrote: > > It's 86 pages... > > Since I only have an old (very slow) flatbed scanner, it would be > easier to photocopy it and drop it in the mail. PM me with your address > if you want to go that route... > > TREVOR. > > van Sinn wrote: > >> Trevor Van Eyck wrote: >> > >> > I do - it's not a digital copy though... >> >> How many pages? Is a scan job possible? -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 20:57:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 800253BE7C; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [64.231.162.4] X-Originating-Email: [vaneyck@sympatico.ca] Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:57:03 -0400 From: Trevor Van Eyck User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Uptown Flash 4x1 manual References: <4A65DA45.4090200@post.cybercity.dk> <000e01ca0a1d$a4b95860$7c862245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A65ECE7.5090000@post.cybercity.dk> <4A6776CB.4040206@post.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: <4A6776CB.4040206@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2009 20:57:05.0954 (UTC) FILETIME=[F877F820:01CA0B0E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:57:06 +0000 (UTC) I know that Steve Vai was a big fan of this - he used it with the Great Divide to split his signal and do many parallel loops that were then summed with the Flash. Maybe you don't need the splitter at all? To be honest I never really got very far into it. I picked it up for simple foot switchable muting of multiple outs of a drum machine although it will do much, much more... Got the URL for the PDF Version? That might come in handy for me as well if it's still available online. Let me know how it goes! TREVOR. van Sinn wrote: > Thanks for the offer. In the mean time, my German friend, who started > off needed the manual and got me onto this device, just located the > PDF manual. I'm about reading it, and will decide on the offer I have. > > Looks pretty interesting, and AFAIK, audio quality should be great. > I'm still unsure if it'll do what I want (rewire 2-3 guitar preamps > and a pedal in series and/or parallel/stacked) without one of the > other companion devices. Anything I should know ? > > > > Trevor Van Eyck wrote: >> >> It's 86 pages... >> >> Since I only have an old (very slow) flatbed scanner, it would be >> easier to photocopy it and drop it in the mail. PM me with your >> address if you want to go that route... >> >> TREVOR. >> >> van Sinn wrote: >> >>> Trevor Van Eyck wrote: >>> > >>> > I do - it's not a digital copy though... >>> >>> How many pages? Is a scan job possible? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 21:07:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB9893BE77; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:07:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248296857; bh=ZfjFv3bwzRQyx9H2yWLApZZ9IhifFgd6otZs4SRzqqE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MGQZd9sC6qcN1q0pJkJTzbm0kpCRhU12mfacz8oOvyD5ij93/Wvilw2J873p73vi7ophppB8ZuO9C9SlsEl0S9/w+syUvCK2QB0dLw51nyYlmsT9irYu6wnQc5hx7PQBr2JbBOFRSXrfNk+wrfMBsJQRv1J8JtC7tIG8aCeR4nY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jmVqHlB5uxfCsK7CDVx62C+3PYqBYzQjiyh0t33i3zzPCsGgdQv/Nw8LKYII/11LOjdJRmeH2z/K1+Ez8C4OLd8qLwX+nuvqSNzr8WBqMvGKLHddnAoHDtmUnSP8KI8s8bwUb0+17tKgODstsDcSLuw4KS9Q5p18e1SovCGpUkc=; Message-ID: <414609.79396.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:07:37 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: living without money(O.T.) To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:07:38 +0000 (UTC) amazing=0A=0Ahttp://men.style.com/details/features/landing?id=3Dcontent_981= 7&mbid=3Dyhp=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A = From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 21:19:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8168E3BE80; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1248297579; bh=+agMU2/bUP/m0X4QdMVKmuR4EGIfaFi7O1qv4ONQIHk=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=YenUoX20t5dhqybVPzqaBEphD+TAn7reSEHjikDfP8ae0ZoHf8STaHp347nHrT6pG kti2dTG9Ny9bmb+xsgLiuS7xic7EIhnASfkxLCVcxyQ/UwbwYnWwv9Wt0G/IG9oQJy yM8uhUowRZGNeUseXIhcuWFzDWh/4zLcvVxXjZm0= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: why we founded this list Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:19:15 +0200 Message-ID: <000001ca0b12$11892d40$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcoIf6xqzKQgKZz2QGeYH2jcziu2XACicNwg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: <7vwgXC.A.GyC.sJ4ZKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Matthias, "Why do we do all this?" Well, my answers: I only have one sister, but I was so happy when I found out that I had = many muscial brothers sharing the same passion :) That's one of the social aspects I really like about this community.=20 In addition to that, I believe live looping can add some magic to your = music and has the potential to become a sort of 4th dimension and be the = virtual musician you can but also can't control. I personally like to create constantly flowing music which is never the same, musical paintings you build up from scratch, slowly adding new content while fading out = others. It allows you to play the unplayed tunes and textures which makes it a very powerful composition tool imo. We haven't met each other in person but I like your ideas about live = looping and I think it's important to promote it. Not because if the technique itself, but as I explained because of the 4th dimension. I believe the technique is only interesting for musicians, and the public is only interested in the music. Anyway, I like this community and I'll continue to promote it with organizing live looping festivals. So there will be a 2nd edition of the Antwerp Live Looping festival in March 2010. "The show must go on" :) ---=20 Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20 http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 22:21:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9F3B3BE77; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090722222156269.41E4F2000087@mwinf2128.orange.fr Message-ID: <629E49645C45440E95E7A54D0D8DE450@portable2jpr> From: "Jean Philippe" To: References: <000001ca0b08$9db79ae0$020313ac@PIPO> Subject: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50? Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:21:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0088_01CA0B2B.96130A90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:21:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01CA0B2B.96130A90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sjaak , I've got a RAQ for you.=20 Is the RC 50 usable by someone who can't see? I know it's hard to tell = but can you tell me more about how the menus behave. Are they all on one = level or in a tree like structure? If you navigate through menus with a = cursor, does it loop back to the first item after you reached the last = one or does it stay there? Oh, a RAQ is a rarely asked question. Cheers, JPR =20 http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sjaak=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:11 PM Subject: RE: What are the current probs w/RC-50? Hi, Check out my rc-50 FAQ on my site: http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/rc50.shtml ---=20 Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20 http://euroloopfest.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01CA0B2B.96130A90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Sjaak ,
I've got a RAQ for you.
Is the RC 50 usable by someone who = can't see? I=20 know it's hard to tell but can you tell me more about how the menus = behave. Are=20 they all on one level or in a tree like structure? If you navigate = through menus=20 with a cursor, does it loop back to the first item after you reached the = last=20 one or does it stay there?
Oh, a RAQ is a rarely asked = question.
Cheers,
JPR

 
http://myspace.com/jeanphi= lipperykiel
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Sjaak=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 = 10:11=20 PM
Subject: RE: What are the = current probs=20 w/RC-50?


Hi,
Check out my rc-50 FAQ on my site:
http://euroloopfest.com= /sjaak/rc50.shtml

---=20
Sjaak
http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ =
http://euroloopfest.com/

------=_NextPart_000_0088_01CA0B2B.96130A90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 22:25:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 461353BE7C; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:25:48 UTC User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.19.0.090515 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:19:07 -0700 Subject: Re: living without money(O.T.) From: Qua Veda To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: living without money(O.T.) Thread-Index: AcoLGm2j/427USuO6ESX4VA7jtPt/g== In-Reply-To: <414609.79396.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MagicMail-UUID: acd17598-770d-11de-bcbd-0015176fabf8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for sharing this article. I especially liked "Money represents things in the past (debt) and things in the future (credit), but money never represents what is present." -Qua On 7/22/09 2:07 PM, "L.Angulo" wrote: > > amazing > > http://men.style.com/details/features/landing?id=content_9817&mbid=yhp > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 22 22:41:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09AAA3BE77; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:41:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5aIFoKhZAoAQJXqGS08/u/WvrEQvj0Su6UpsMw/b4UY=; b=JouEyZdTzyTZSKOS8g+3PMWSuQRzBv+kjxSjHikggWUHG+Zukbz4/vPW1shz4NNqSC vVJ/zZs2+odQOn6FW9qSWVQCi3USEsZ3W2TjZ89lPXm6GasPM38FKO8cExu7NAlPMA9f 1UDc0QFJ9jnFrbLSsaah2qt3373WGj4mx4tqM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bLPIfxbkCr9mPcVWmio8KsnzXWbyoNSWtKnR++n/SuTrvLRNzYDjbZ8s3WtnW98nZY vcN6zrtdjwD9iF6y8T1EJSb8oLxA3UROH3sqSms23IT3N1Yyt4AsBsFA21i9mub0mU2i RrOPHkWEtJGF3E1IZBi0AZRJOCAuodbkyBJTs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <414609.79396.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:41:54 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: living without money(O.T.) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:41:54 +0000 (UTC) This is all well and good, but it would snuff out your ability to loop pretty quickly. I think it would be more useful to compare money to wealth as concepts and do a bit more in educating people about the difference. i.e. going into credit card debt to buy spinners for your Hyundai when the mother of your child is obtaining food stamps to feed themselves. I was pretty poor for a very long time. Traditional "starving musician" type. It was stressful, but mostly in a way that getting a parking ticket would send me into a tailspin because I'd be short on rent. Other than events like that life was pretty good. Live outside a small town and you can live pretty lean. My health plan consisted of me planning on not getting sick. In a weird way, now that I'm doing OK I often think, "what if I lost it all?" The answer is I'd just go back to where I was and make it work in some way. I never quite get people who jump off buildings when they lose their fortune. I recently heard an interview of a homeless guy on NPR where he says that he actually gained weight being homeless due to the availability of good state and church run food programs in his town. I remember the soup kitchen I worked in served bread from the gourmet bakery I worked next to and it was my one change to eat there bread as I usually couldn't afford it. So what's poverty in a land where food is abundant? If food isn't abundant, where you are, why are you having children? Why is status more important than education? Why has being a craftsman or worker become a bad thing? These are the things I think about. On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Qua Veda wrote: > Thanks for sharing this article. =A0I especially =A0liked "Money represen= ts > things in the past (debt) and things in the future (credit), but money ne= ver > represents what is present." > -Qua > > On 7/22/09 2:07 PM, "L.Angulo" wrote: > >> >> amazing >> >> http://men.style.com/details/features/landing?id=3Dcontent_9817&mbid=3Dy= hp >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 07:16:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D120C3BE7E; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:16:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 231235147/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.136.31/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.136.31 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As0BAA+rZ0pPRogf/2dsb2JhbAAI0XqEDQWJbA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,252,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="231235147" Message-ID: <4A6811BC.9040703@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:31:08 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50?NEW ONE? References: <000001ca0b08$9db79ae0$020313ac@PIPO> In-Reply-To: <000001ca0b08$9db79ae0$020313ac@PIPO> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:16:09 +0000 (UTC) hi Sjaak, Nice site. my limited RC-50 observations noted that while the I was able to follow the instructions to remove the glitch on the start of playback for the first loop there was still a large gap before the start of playback of a second track. Harder to notice, but definitely the long gap from "rhythm priority" is present when "sound priority" was selected. On that occasion the beginning of the second loop/track coincided with the beginning of the original loop. I had any quantise turned to off ( er..I expect). I suspect that the problem does not occur the recording of the second loop/track doesn't start on the start/end point of the first loop, because I only heard the gap a couple of times. I'm unable to check the above, I only had the RC-50 for a day or so on loan. I don't know the version of the firmware, but it was a new unit. (Couldn't find a way to display version on the front panel) andy butler ps. for legibility of text, advise that you don't use high contrast graphics as a backing Sjaak wrote: > Hi, > Check out my rc-50 FAQ on my site: > http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/rc50.shtml > > --- > Sjaak > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 09:00:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30B983BE79; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=og9H6sw/LNjgRoIU9rVCYz0ylGiE+jzHA0L7jsAKbTU=; b=RE79JIWVPkG3KZkU9vS6adlXbU1BYPH8KvsvCraObe4ouWo8rET9336RoBJ3n41JMr Y+nfT5QHq2YTce7eI7mRYe5xYxzVmcz1meGH31EzFu/qxeSQUGBR8F5GESyd5JQrr6OO TfE03No8bMptXOyEntS11fCePJfICYIUGGDkI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=WK/btHy/kwMVHDPb7RusqiM7GCgkHVdkRELjTMW0PapjyxYWrZNSsCbeejxJ20ACT2 8so1wASw8sFJCsnvFlvMiGyOe/eI5p9c05Vz+494m+HdyJrUgAZjccJ0f6jUvS5Qgjo/ dbK1sn9d0ncoUEQZcC0jeG3SqxOp/nszbbxac= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <414609.79396.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:00:32 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d213d8163601e59c Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907230200j6991e5ev77616d07fc930592@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: living without money(O.T.) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c10d085bdfc046f5bb9d5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:00:54 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c10d085bdfc046f5bb9d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The answer is Mark, that in your country (as far as I can tell) status mean= s alot...respect is everything, fear of not being respected and somehow being less worth is so great that peoples priorities become tainted from what the= y feel to be right, good and proper, into what your society (as advertised by your biased news and tv stations) tells you is what you need. Plus you nee= d money to buy your education (if you want anything more than the basic package) and you cannot afford to be sick (you said that yourself). That is not to say there are not problems in either of my chosen countries (norway and the UK) England for example has a large homeless problem, but there, and certainly here in Norway, it is predominately drug users and the mentaly sick that end up on the streets, and that is a different social problem, that is very hard to eradicate. In Norway however, there is simply NO homelessness. There are enough beds in shelters for eveyone, thats not t= o say that some dont choose to sllep rough, but for half the year, its simple not possible, they would die there. Consequently the councils have HAD to provide some sort of shelter (Yes councils, not charity). The little quirks in the system (like your homeless people eating goumet food quip) are just quirks, and as stories serve to misdirect the populace rightful guilt on the subv=B4ject of the homeless.. So.. they eat nice brea= d, but they sleep in a hole under railway bridge in ther own excrement. I myself go a kick when I offered a himless guy a Cola drink that came as par= t of my "Meny Happy Meal" at Mc Donalds.. the homeless guy said.. "Not thanks= , I dont eat that shit... bunch of capitalist evil bastards, destroying the rain forests blablabla..." In the US, you are obsessed with freedom, and choice. Fuck that!!! is what I say.. You just dont wanna pay your taxes!!! You say you worked at a soup kitchen, thats wonderful. But you shouldnt have to!!! You always tip in resturants and cabs, why? Cos you know that they are not well enough paid! You CHOOSE where to give... My Mother died of Cancer, so I am predisposed t= o give charity to Cancer Research, but shouldnt As for your advice on how to survive, I couldnt agree more... I lived for many years extremely broke. And I could do the same again... I might have t= o move to a warmer country tho... 2 tanks of petrol could get me and my familly to Spain, where its cheap to live.. dont need heating... and well.. its nice there... For that life I could (almost) live on the streets... a small apartment would do... do a few odd jobs, sit in outside cafes, swim before breakfast, live on bread and olive oil and tomatos ... I dunno... I= m almost packing as I write this!!! So what's poverty in a land where food is abundant? Its discussting isnt it... but whos got that abundance of food, certainly not the starving. If food isn't abundant, where you are, why are you having children? Why not? Is procreation a bonus for the rich? Why is status more important than education? See above Why has being a craftsman or worker become a bad thing? Surprised you had to ask that... BAD PAY!!! waitresses and nurses are paid so badly, would you wanna be one? Nope, And you knew that from young right? so you went to college right? Now you earn good huh? OK then.. Pay them workers better, Pay then Nurses better, Pay them Garbage collectors better, then people will do those jobs, then less people will go to college, which will mean more spaces at colloge for those that wanna, which means educatio= n costcome down, which means... ? well what dos that mean... maybe you can ge= t to pay less taxes? Final point is about Taxes.. so here I go... lets compare. I pay 42 percent of my monthly wage in Tax. (With some exceptions December and July are Tax free - meant to help you pay for family occasions such as Christmas and Holidays - ok tis a bit "Nanny State" for me too, but there you are, gives you an idea what what the Government believes is its responsibilities are) Wow.. better get back to woork... But will end with this one (its old so apologies for repetition on this list...) Now I wont say this clip is NOT without flaws.. there ARE errors (which Micheal Moore slammers are only to quick to pint out) but MOST of this bit on Norway.. TRUE!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuGTzbj3fRSw Mark On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Mark Sottilaro wr= ote: > This is all well and good, but it would snuff out your ability to loop > pretty quickly. I think it would be more useful to compare money to > wealth as concepts and do a bit more in educating people about the > difference. i.e. going into credit card debt to buy spinners for your > Hyundai when the mother of your child is obtaining food stamps to feed > themselves. > > I was pretty poor for a very long time. Traditional "starving > musician" type. It was stressful, but mostly in a way that getting a > parking ticket would send me into a tailspin because I'd be short on > rent. Other than events like that life was pretty good. Live > outside a small town and you can live pretty lean. My health plan > consisted of me planning on not getting sick. > > In a weird way, now that I'm doing OK I often think, "what if I lost > it all?" The answer is I'd just go back to where I was and make it > work in some way. I never quite get people who jump off buildings > when they lose their fortune. I recently heard an interview of a > homeless guy on NPR where he says that he actually gained weight being > homeless due to the availability of good state and church run food > programs in his town. I remember the soup kitchen I worked in served > bread from the gourmet bakery I worked next to and it was my one > change to eat there bread as I usually couldn't afford it. > > So what's poverty in a land where food is abundant? If food isn't > abundant, where you are, why are you having children? Why is status > more important than education? Why has being a craftsman or worker > become a bad thing? > > These are the things I think about. > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Qua Veda wrote: > > Thanks for sharing this article. I especially liked "Money represents > > things in the past (debt) and things in the future (credit), but money > never > > represents what is present." > > -Qua > > > > On 7/22/09 2:07 PM, "L.Angulo" wrote: > > > >> > >> amazing > >> > >> http://men.style.com/details/features/landing?id=3Dcontent_9817&mbid= =3Dyhp > >> > >> > > > > > > > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c10d085bdfc046f5bb9d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The answer is Mark, that in your country (as far as I can tell) status mean= s alot...respect is everything, fear of not being respected and somehow bei= ng less worth is so great that peoples priorities become tainted from what = they feel to be right, good and proper, into what your society (as advertis= ed by your biased news and tv stations) tells you is what you need.=A0 Plus= you need money to buy your education (if you want anything more than the b= asic package) and you cannot afford to be sick (you said that yourself). That is not to say there are not problems in either of my chosen countries = (norway and the UK) England for example has a large homeless problem, but t= here, and certainly here in Norway, it is predominately drug users and the = mentaly sick that end up on the streets, and that is a different social pro= blem, that is very hard to eradicate. In Norway however, there is simply NO= homelessness. There are enough beds in shelters for eveyone, thats not to = say that some dont choose to sllep rough, but for half the year, its simple= not possible, they would die there. Consequently the councils have HAD to = provide some sort of shelter (Yes councils, not charity).

The little quirks in the system (like your homeless people eating goumet food quip) are just quirks, and as stories serve to misdirect the populace rightful guilt on the subv=B4ject of the homeless.. So.. they eat nice bread, but they sleep in a hole under railway bridge in ther own excrement. I myself go a kick when I offered a himless guy a Cola drink that came as part of my "Meny Happy Meal" at Mc Donald= s.. the homeless guy said.. "Not thanks, I dont eat that shit... bunch of capitalist evil bastards, destroying the rain forests blablabla..."
In the US, you are obsessed with freedom, and choice. Fuck that!!!=A0 = is what I say.. You just dont wanna pay your taxes!!! You say you worked at= a soup kitchen, thats wonderful. But you shouldnt have to!!! You always ti= p in resturants and cabs, why? Cos you know that they are not well enough p= aid! You CHOOSE where to give... My Mother died of Cancer, so I am predispo= sed to give charity to Cancer Research, but shouldnt

As for your advice on how to survive, I couldnt agree more... I lived f= or many years extremely broke. And I could do the same again... I might hav= e to move to a warmer country tho...=A0 2 tanks of petrol could get me and = my familly to Spain, where its cheap to live.. dont need heating... and wel= l.. its nice there... For that life I could (almost) live on the streets...= a small apartment would do... do a few odd jobs, sit in outside cafes, swi= m before breakfast,=A0 live on bread and olive oil and tomatos ... I dunno.= .. Im almost packing as I write this!!!

So what's poverty in a land where food is abundant?=A0
Its disc= ussting isnt it... but whos got that abundance of food, certainly not the s= tarving.
If food isn't abundant, where you are, why are you having c= hildren?
Why not? Is procreation a bonus for the rich?
Why is status more importa= nt than education?
See above
Why has being a craftsman or worker bec= ome a bad thing?
Surprised you had to ask that... BAD PAY!!!=A0 waitress= es and nurses are paid so badly, would you wanna be one? Nope, And you knew= that from young right? so you went to college right?=A0 Now you earn good = huh? OK then.. Pay them workers better, Pay then Nurses better, Pay them Ga= rbage collectors better, then people will do those jobs, then less people w= ill go to college, which will mean more spaces at colloge for those that wa= nna, which means education costcome down, which means... ? well what dos th= at mean... maybe you can get to pay less taxes?

Final point is about Taxes.. so here I go... lets compare.
I pay 42 = percent of my monthly wage in Tax. (With some exceptions December and July = are Tax free - meant to help you pay for family occasions such as Christmas= and Holidays - ok tis a bit "Nanny State" for me too, but there = you are, gives you an idea what what the Government believes is its respons= ibilities are)

Wow.. better get back to woork... But will end with this one (its old s= o apologies for repetition on this list...)

Now I wont say this clip= is NOT without flaws.. there ARE errors (which Micheal Moore slammers are = only to quick to pint out) but MOST of this bit on Norway.. TRUE!!!!!

http://www.you= tube.com/watch?v=3DuGTzbj3fRSw

Mark
=A0

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:
This is all well = and good, but it would snuff out your ability to loop
pretty quickly. =A0 I think it would be more useful to compare money to
wealth as concepts and do a bit more in educating people about the
difference. =A0i.e. going into credit card debt to buy spinners for your Hyundai when the mother of your child is obtaining food stamps to feed
themselves.

I was pretty poor for a very long time. =A0Traditional "starving
musician" type. =A0It was stressful, but mostly in a way that getting = a
parking ticket would send me into a tailspin because I'd be short on rent. =A0 Other than events like that life was pretty good. =A0Live
outside a small town and you can live pretty lean. =A0My health plan
consisted of me planning on not getting sick.

In a weird way, now that I'm doing OK I often think, "what if I lo= st
it all?" =A0The answer is I'd just go back to where I was and make= it
work in some way. =A0I never quite get people who jump off buildings
when they lose their fortune. =A0I recently heard an interview of a
homeless guy on NPR where he says that he actually gained weight being
homeless due to the availability of good state and church run food
programs in his town. I remember the soup kitchen I worked in served
bread from the gourmet bakery I worked next to and it was my one
change to eat there bread as I usually couldn't afford it.

So what's poverty in a land where food is abundant? =A0If food isn'= t
abundant, where you are, why are you having children? =A0Why is status
more important than education? =A0Why has being a craftsman or worker
become a bad thing?

These are the things I think about.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Qua Veda<qua@oregon.com> wrote:
> Thanks for sharing this article. =A0I especially =A0liked "Money = represents
> things in the past (debt) and things in the future (credit), but money= never
> represents what is present."
> -Qua
>
> On 7/22/09 2:07 PM, "L.Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> amazing
>>
>> http://men.style.com/details/fea= tures/landing?id=3Dcontent_9817&mbid=3Dyhp
>>
>>
>
>
>




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http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancom= be
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--0015174c10d085bdfc046f5bb9d5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 09:34:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D6E33BE7E; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:34:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_sFWk6VBertt2ButEBuXxvQ)" Message-id: <0B46E809552846EB821142E9A7163A02@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <414609.79396.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907230200j6991e5ev77616d07fc930592@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: living without money(O.T.) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:33:56 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:34:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_sFWk6VBertt2ButEBuXxvQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Actually nurses and garbage collectors make quite good money. Not = kidding. I think you should try living here before you knock the U.S. = so much. Same deal with me--I should try living in different countries = too. The people I work with (in electronics) mostly don't have college = degrees and they make pretty good money. Although they're hardly = "cultured" (most went through the military), they are decent people and = seem pretty happy. And most are quite interested in music. I'd say for the most part people aren't that driven to compete for high = status. Most folks go to work, come home and want to enjoy their free = time and do like respect but it's not a duel to the death over it. \t ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:00 AM Subject: Re: living without money(O.T.) The answer is Mark, that in your country (as far as I can tell) status = means alot...respect is everything, fear of not being respected and = somehow being less worth is so great that peoples priorities become = tainted from what they feel to be right, good and proper, into what your = society (as advertised by your biased news and tv stations) tells you is = what you need. Plus you need money to buy your education (if you want = anything more than the basic package) and you cannot afford to be sick = (you said that yourself). That is not to say there are not problems in either of my chosen = countries (norway and the UK) England for example has a large homeless = problem, but there, and certainly here in Norway, it is predominately = drug users and the mentaly sick that end up on the streets, and that is = a different social problem, that is very hard to eradicate. In Norway = however, there is simply NO homelessness. There are enough beds in = shelters for eveyone, thats not to say that some dont choose to sllep = rough, but for half the year, its simple not possible, they would die = there. Consequently the councils have HAD to provide some sort of = shelter (Yes councils, not charity). The little quirks in the system (like your homeless people eating = goumet food quip) are just quirks, and as stories serve to misdirect the = populace rightful guilt on the subv=B4ject of the homeless.. So.. they = eat nice bread, but they sleep in a hole under railway bridge in ther = own excrement. I myself go a kick when I offered a himless guy a Cola = drink that came as part of my "Meny Happy Meal" at Mc Donalds.. the = homeless guy said.. "Not thanks, I dont eat that shit... bunch of = capitalist evil bastards, destroying the rain forests blablabla..." In the US, you are obsessed with freedom, and choice. Fuck that!!! is = what I say.. You just dont wanna pay your taxes!!! You say you worked at = a soup kitchen, thats wonderful. But you shouldnt have to!!! You always = tip in resturants and cabs, why? Cos you know that they are not well = enough paid! You CHOOSE where to give... My Mother died of Cancer, so I = am predisposed to give charity to Cancer Research, but shouldnt=20 As for your advice on how to survive, I couldnt agree more... I lived = for many years extremely broke. And I could do the same again... I might = have to move to a warmer country tho... 2 tanks of petrol could get me = and my familly to Spain, where its cheap to live.. dont need heating... = and well.. its nice there... For that life I could (almost) live on the = streets... a small apartment would do... do a few odd jobs, sit in = outside cafes, swim before breakfast, live on bread and olive oil and = tomatos ... I dunno... Im almost packing as I write this!!! So what's poverty in a land where food is abundant? =20 Its discussting isnt it... but whos got that abundance of food, = certainly not the starving. If food isn't abundant, where you are, why are you having children?=20 Why not? Is procreation a bonus for the rich? Why is status more important than education?=20 See above Why has being a craftsman or worker become a bad thing? Surprised you had to ask that... BAD PAY!!! waitresses and nurses are = paid so badly, would you wanna be one? Nope, And you knew that from = young right? so you went to college right? Now you earn good huh? OK = then.. Pay them workers better, Pay then Nurses better, Pay them Garbage = collectors better, then people will do those jobs, then less people will = go to college, which will mean more spaces at colloge for those that = wanna, which means education costcome down, which means... ? well what = dos that mean... maybe you can get to pay less taxes? Final point is about Taxes.. so here I go... lets compare. I pay 42 percent of my monthly wage in Tax. (With some exceptions = December and July are Tax free - meant to help you pay for family = occasions such as Christmas and Holidays - ok tis a bit "Nanny State" = for me too, but there you are, gives you an idea what what the = Government believes is its responsibilities are) Wow.. better get back to woork... But will end with this one (its old = so apologies for repetition on this list...) Now I wont say this clip is NOT without flaws.. there ARE errors = (which Micheal Moore slammers are only to quick to pint out) but MOST of = this bit on Norway.. TRUE!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuGTzbj3fRSw Mark =20 On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Mark Sottilaro = wrote: This is all well and good, but it would snuff out your ability to = loop pretty quickly. I think it would be more useful to compare money = to wealth as concepts and do a bit more in educating people about the difference. i.e. going into credit card debt to buy spinners for = your Hyundai when the mother of your child is obtaining food stamps to = feed themselves. I was pretty poor for a very long time. Traditional "starving musician" type. It was stressful, but mostly in a way that getting = a parking ticket would send me into a tailspin because I'd be short on rent. Other than events like that life was pretty good. Live outside a small town and you can live pretty lean. My health plan consisted of me planning on not getting sick. In a weird way, now that I'm doing OK I often think, "what if I lost it all?" The answer is I'd just go back to where I was and make it work in some way. I never quite get people who jump off buildings when they lose their fortune. I recently heard an interview of a homeless guy on NPR where he says that he actually gained weight = being homeless due to the availability of good state and church run food programs in his town. I remember the soup kitchen I worked in served bread from the gourmet bakery I worked next to and it was my one change to eat there bread as I usually couldn't afford it. So what's poverty in a land where food is abundant? If food isn't abundant, where you are, why are you having children? Why is status more important than education? Why has being a craftsman or worker become a bad thing? These are the things I think about. On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Qua Veda wrote: > Thanks for sharing this article. I especially liked "Money = represents > things in the past (debt) and things in the future (credit), but = money never > represents what is present." > -Qua > > On 7/22/09 2:07 PM, "L.Angulo" wrote: > >> >> amazing >> >> = http://men.style.com/details/features/landing?id=3Dcontent_9817&mbid=3Dyh= p >> >> > > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --Boundary_(ID_sFWk6VBertt2ButEBuXxvQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Actually nurses and garbage collectors = make quite=20 good money.  Not kidding.  I think you should try living here = before=20 you knock the U.S. so much.  Same deal with me--I should try living = in=20 different countries too.
 
The people I work with (in electronics) = mostly=20 don't have college degrees and they make pretty good money.  = Although=20 they're hardly "cultured" (most went through the military),=20 they are decent people and seem pretty happy.  And most = are quite=20 interested in music.
 
I'd say for the most part people aren't = that driven=20 to compete for high status.  Most folks go to work, come home and = want to=20 enjoy their free time and do like respect but it's not a duel to the = death over=20 it.
 
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----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mark=20 francombe
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 = 2:00=20 AM
Subject: Re: living without=20 money(O.T.)

The answer is Mark, that in your country (as far as I = can tell)=20 status means alot...respect is everything, fear of not being respected = and=20 somehow being less worth is so great that peoples priorities become = tainted=20 from what they feel to be right, good and proper, into what your = society (as=20 advertised by your biased news and tv stations) tells you is what you=20 need.  Plus you need money to buy your education (if you want = anything=20 more than the basic package) and you cannot afford to be sick (you = said that=20 yourself).
That is not to say there are not problems in either of = my chosen=20 countries (norway and the UK) England for example has a large homeless = problem, but there, and certainly here in Norway, it is predominately = drug=20 users and the mentaly sick that end up on the streets, and that is a = different=20 social problem, that is very hard to eradicate. In Norway however, = there is=20 simply NO homelessness. There are enough beds in shelters for eveyone, = thats=20 not to say that some dont choose to sllep rough, but for half the = year, its=20 simple not possible, they would die there. Consequently the councils = have HAD=20 to provide some sort of shelter (Yes councils, not = charity).

The little=20 quirks in the system (like your homeless people eating goumet food = quip) are=20 just quirks, and as stories serve to misdirect the populace rightful = guilt on=20 the subv=B4ject of the homeless.. So.. they eat nice bread, but they = sleep in a=20 hole under railway bridge in ther own excrement. I myself go a kick = when I=20 offered a himless guy a Cola drink that came as part of my "Meny Happy = Meal"=20 at Mc Donalds.. the homeless guy said.. "Not thanks, I dont eat that = shit...=20 bunch of capitalist evil bastards, destroying the rain forests=20 blablabla..."

In the US, you are obsessed with freedom, and = choice.=20 Fuck that!!!  is what I say.. You just dont wanna pay your = taxes!!! You=20 say you worked at a soup kitchen, thats wonderful. But you shouldnt = have to!!!=20 You always tip in resturants and cabs, why? Cos you know that they are = not=20 well enough paid! You CHOOSE where to give... My Mother died of = Cancer, so I=20 am predisposed to give charity to Cancer Research, but shouldnt =

As for=20 your advice on how to survive, I couldnt agree more... I lived for = many years=20 extremely broke. And I could do the same again... I might have to move = to a=20 warmer country tho...  2 tanks of petrol could get me and my = familly to=20 Spain, where its cheap to live.. dont need heating... and well.. its = nice=20 there... For that life I could (almost) live on the streets... a small = apartment would do... do a few odd jobs, sit in outside cafes, swim = before=20 breakfast,  live on bread and olive oil and tomatos ... I = dunno... Im=20 almost packing as I write this!!!

So what's poverty in a land = where=20 food is abundant? 
Its discussting isnt it... but whos got = that=20 abundance of food, certainly not the starving.
If food isn't = abundant,=20 where you are, why are you having children?
Why not? Is = procreation a=20 bonus for the rich?
Why is status more important than education? =
See=20 above
Why has being a craftsman or worker become a bad = thing?
Surprised=20 you had to ask that... BAD PAY!!!  waitresses and nurses are paid = so=20 badly, would you wanna be one? Nope, And you knew that from young = right? so=20 you went to college right?  Now you earn good huh? OK then.. Pay = them=20 workers better, Pay then Nurses better, Pay them Garbage collectors = better,=20 then people will do those jobs, then less people will go to college, = which=20 will mean more spaces at colloge for those that wanna, which means = education=20 costcome down, which means... ? well what dos that mean... maybe you = can get=20 to pay less taxes?

Final point is about Taxes.. so here I go... = lets=20 compare.
I pay 42 percent of my monthly wage in Tax. (With some = exceptions=20 December and July are Tax free - meant to help you pay for family = occasions=20 such as Christmas and Holidays - ok tis a bit "Nanny State" for me = too, but=20 there you are, gives you an idea what what the Government believes is = its=20 responsibilities are)

Wow.. better get back to woork... But = will end=20 with this one (its old so apologies for repetition on this = list...)

Now=20 I wont say this clip is NOT without flaws.. there ARE errors (which = Micheal=20 Moore slammers are only to quick to pint out) but MOST of this bit on = Norway..=20 TRUE!!!!!

http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DuGTzbj3fRSw

Mark
 

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Mark = Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com>=20 wrote:
This is all well and good, but it would snuff out = your=20 ability to loop
pretty quickly.   I think it would be more = useful to=20 compare money to
wealth as concepts and do a bit more in = educating people=20 about the
difference.  i.e. going into credit card debt to = buy=20 spinners for your
Hyundai when the mother of your child is = obtaining food=20 stamps to feed
themselves.

I was pretty poor for a very = long time.=20  Traditional "starving
musician" type.  It was = stressful, but=20 mostly in a way that getting a
parking ticket would send me into = a=20 tailspin because I'd be short on
rent.   Other than events = like that=20 life was pretty good.  Live
outside a small town and you can = live=20 pretty lean.  My health plan
consisted of me planning on not = getting=20 sick.

In a weird way, now that I'm doing OK I often think, = "what if I=20 lost
it all?"  The answer is I'd just go back to where I was = and=20 make it
work in some way.  I never quite get people who jump = off=20 buildings
when they lose their fortune.  I recently heard an = interview of a
homeless guy on NPR where he says that he actually = gained=20 weight being
homeless due to the availability of good state and = church=20 run food
programs in his town. I remember the soup kitchen I = worked in=20 served
bread from the gourmet bakery I worked next to and it was = my=20 one
change to eat there bread as I usually couldn't afford = it.

So=20 what's poverty in a land where food is abundant?  If food=20 isn't
abundant, where you are, why are you having children? =  Why is=20 status
more important than education?  Why has being a = craftsman or=20 worker
become a bad thing?

These are the things I think = about.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Qua Veda<qua@oregon.com> wrote:
> = Thanks=20 for sharing this article.  I especially  liked "Money=20 represents
> things in the past (debt) and things in the = future=20 (credit), but money never
> represents what is = present."
>=20 -Qua
>
> On 7/22/09 2:07 PM, "L.Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>=20 wrote:
>
>>
>> = amazing
>>
>> http://men.style.com/details/features/landing?id=3Dconten= t_9817&mbid=3Dyhp
>>
>>
>
>
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--Boundary_(ID_sFWk6VBertt2ButEBuXxvQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 10:07:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8ECC23BE80; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:07:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yUOeQESAugBsprVktRYtmL8CTX9sJw1UPJ/0Mthh50c=; b=iTvkWRuRqbXWO1lULt19r88oGxMrlKcBrlRm90shic2/wklH8fLhIrjTTJG3Tcri4C NQh6SrpYopljfmwRD4dePzUgpowh7tFqp7rzg/JsUaEDuDNnRH+5DJR/Kum5yFazR/V8 6ut7cfgpabVzY15EH6aXz4OwxQp0CKJHPmhWQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o9R18FgjZbBoNilpruHIDpFsVpmC1eSLT0Hdd3/smYv2QkHGcMSLlWdXixMKH7W5gK sjhHMZfz547tiNg0KCZ+y72mdQ/5Gg2fhNIBSZe6+ZG52RDtYsUwp6SeIYCSni46edLK N+aTy8KKeJGdThL+iR16RF4+SoHFr/Kdh+w60= Message-ID: <4A683667.9090308@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:07:35 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ambivalent feelings about playing live (was: PrePrepared vs. Improvisational) References: <66f9cc1e0907101144v778df295p3e36893032224f69@mail.gmail.com> <4A60D7F0.6030106@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <3zQQDD.A.hcH.tZDaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:07:41 +0000 (UTC) Mark Sottilaro schrieb: > How much would you like to bet? I'll take that kind of action any > day. ;) I think even I adore Bowie's music more than David Torn's. There are so much more Bowies CDs out there including CDs which are given away, or bought out of recommendation without deep listening, whereas Torn will maybe entirely only be bought by those who adore his music. I love David Bowie as well by the way, but it doesn't come even close to my feelings for Torn, which certainly is a matter of taste... I related to the percentage who own AND adore the music compared to those who just own or maybe know it. The mass music is owned and known by a lot, those who deeply understand a music is a much more fixed and lower figure, even for celebrities... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 10:24:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B82E83BE7C; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=jSgQKGKssNZPsRu0hlySCkcfE4e9hf++Pr29/Ki5Ouw=; b=F2Q1G8p5OXoIvw20XWaDJvxaBsIXp3Lo/yjXwp6rVgqD2SzWzoppV3zKGU13Ie6kN6 PhfieZnoPKITS1T3u/MsTcX6+QissATEmUVjQieLwn8Z8p6sD8XQC5VJNSy1PrjJrW8E 7V+3AWqsXD8N19ZzeJLeAbJuLRWI7NxixnI1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Q7+aSDXRFN712lNJPpRzX01bx3sOuT22Tp2eKEvgmPyL+VGVF4Cnti2BNjF/Du7GPg 9hD0lIC8UaWOKEk6biiTJZLWNRYcL0zpgW8EY7nEqsdWF9m2zc/vlaoXfGTEdw6m6LVx SLKtZoaigLJ7UKEqq2JG5ZdZBYVhk+rqHeVss= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <0B46E809552846EB821142E9A7163A02@NORBY11> References: <414609.79396.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907230200j6991e5ev77616d07fc930592@mail.gmail.com> <0B46E809552846EB821142E9A7163A02@NORBY11> From: mark francombe Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:23:38 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f9c878d2b653ed18 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907230323p5e06f69bp2cff0e4d297ffbb5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: living without money(O.T.) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bdd8eb5d639046f5ce284 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:24:01 +0000 (UTC) --0015174bdd8eb5d639046f5ce284 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Toby G wrote: > Actually nurses and garbage collectors make quite good money. Not > kidding. I think you should try living here before you knock the U.S. so > much. Same deal with me--I should try living in different countries too. > Actually, you we=B4nt to know, but I HAVE lived in the US... plus I=B4ve li= ved in Spain, Thailand, currently reside in Norway and come from the UK, I lik= e to move around! (next stop Morocco I think, or India) > > The people I work with (in electronics) mostly don't have college degrees > and they make pretty good money. Although they're hardly "cultured" (mos= t > went through the military), they are decent people and seem pretty happy. > And most are quite interested in music. > Indeed, the military can provide some great education, especially in the fields of communication, electronics, plus good people skills. Not for me tho, and hardly a viable alternative to college for most. But I agree, not all are striving for fame and fortune. I was really responding to Marks observation that in the US, status seems more important than education, you can argue with that statements truth of course, but I tried to explain why, if it was a true statement, that might be. Generally speaking I have found that the populace of the US that I have met to be well educated, liberal, and a hell of a lot nicer than most people in Europe (who have NOT been to the US) are led to believe, this is due to YOUR TV programs, that are piped into European homes on more than half MY channels at least. When I look at CNN, and Lives of the rich and famous, and 60 Minutes and Cribs.. (to quote a helluva mixture) I can see where most of Europe gets their views on the U= , S of A. I tell them... your are wrong... GO THERE and see for yourself... Them Yanky folk are lovely!!! But this TV is what you are piping at yourself too!!! Un less theres some secret channels that I dont know know about, or saw when I was there... thats all.. basicaly I agree with you! m --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --0015174bdd8eb5d639046f5ce284 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Toby G= <carpet8@mac.com> wrote:
Actually nurses and garbage collectors= make quite=20 good money.=A0 Not kidding.=A0 I think you should try living here before=20 you knock the U.S. so much.=A0 Same deal with me--I should try living in=20 different countries too.

Actually, you we= =B4nt to know, but I HAVE lived in the US... plus I=B4ve lived in Spain, Th= ailand, currently reside in Norway and come from the UK,=A0 I like to move = around! (next stop Morocco I think, or India)
=A0
The people I work with (in electronics= ) mostly=20 don't have college degrees and they make pretty good money.=A0 Although= =20 they're hardly "cultured" (most went through the military),= =20 they=A0are=A0decent people and seem pretty happy.=A0 And most are quite=20 interested in music.

Indee= d, the military can provide some great education, especially in the fields = of communication, electronics, plus good people skills. Not for me tho, and= hardly a viable alternative to college for most. But I agree, not all are = striving for fame and fortune. I was really responding to Marks observation= that in the US, status seems more important than education, you can argue = with that statements truth of course, but I tried to explain why, if it was= a true statement, that might be. Generally speaking I have found that the = populace of the US that I have met to be well educated, liberal, and a hell= of a lot nicer than most people in Europe (who have NOT been to the US) ar= e led to believe, this is due to YOUR TV programs, that are piped into Euro= pean homes on more than half MY channels at least. When I look at CNN, and = Lives of the rich and famous, and 60 Minutes and Cribs.. (to quote a helluv= a mixture) I can see where most of Europe gets their views on the U, S of A= . I tell them... your are wrong... GO THERE and see for yourself... Them Ya= nky folk are lovely!!! But this TV is what you are piping=A0 at yourself to= o!!! Un less theres some secret channels that I dont know know about, or sa= w when I was there...

thats all.. basicaly I agree with you!

m


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Best wishes, Christo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sjaak" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:11 PM Subject: RE: What are the current probs w/RC-50? > Hi, > Check out my rc-50 FAQ on my site: > http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/rc50.shtml > > --- > Sjaak > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 10:47:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30EBD3BE80; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A683FBD.9020304@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:47:25 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Afterglow, Galactic Travels, and The AM/FM Show Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:47:38 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) every Thursday morning. 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THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, June 25 at 6:00 am (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00). I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase 1. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 12:18:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2FF73BE82; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "BC" To: References: <000001ca0b08$9db79ae0$020313ac@PIPO> <4A6811BC.9040703@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50?NEW ONE? Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:18:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, guys. The issues with the unit are deal-breakers for me. The search continues... Brian ----- Original Message ----- > hi Sjaak, > Nice site. > > my limited RC-50 observations noted that while > the I was able to follow the instructions to remove the glitch on the > start of playback for the first loop > there was still a large gap before the start of playback > of a second track. > Harder to notice, but definitely the long gap > from "rhythm priority" is present when "sound priority" > was selected. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 13:35:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 290D83BE82; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8ejLYp+emfbKZaITDASD3nvg+6u5DmxrTkbyvHKTXHg=; b=DLVmHufT3bWIdo3BgeDbuGt0z8YlmSJNsCT+ocNlzYxy61FJLU8TBfxs+Yqlziu5cw Dt0KhaqvX0Z7T1Xbdg23rDW5AzwK07DgZ8bsezMB2gQu82TrRPhEA7fGwS/tl0P6NR1g v6AiIHTEw3aCpwo2jxLsp2Wv/xtry1g7L+mDE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Clbzz0pnlJyiY2Co7MrCl/q/y3jsDE7yHR9sM2rgYTGDT8RaJusoIteMdLiqSHHdu3 5s6rcnCZVHVlT82SeRSdFbpgSVyIOwVKpCHE9eXLGHcN25dvOisLimVoeDiDQdvqG9u0 vouQUgcEFRIbZY050m99Yzot6pBCfjydWEVT0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:35:02 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6971487e5e30f4a9 Message-ID: Subject: new looper in Logic 9 From: Os To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:35:04 +0000 (UTC) http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/whats-new/ looks pretty basic. os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 13:47:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 149403BE7F; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: HarryEsq@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:47:11 EDT Subject: GSPAM: Matt Davignon At House Party In Western Nassau County Tonight To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1248356831" X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5000 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.199 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:47:34 +0000 (UTC) -------------------------------1248356831 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To anyone who is in the City or has access to Western Nassau County (not far from JFK), I have put together an evening of music at my house headlining Matt Davignon who is in the midst of his East Coast tour. 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To anyone who is in the City or has access to Western Nassau County= (not far from JFK), I have put together an evening of music at my house headlin= ing Matt Davignon who is in the midst of his East Coast tour.  Music kick= s off at 8 PM with a set performed by Chris Peters and myself (theremin, electro= nics, sax, ewi. electronics) followed by a set by Matt.  Sorry for the late= notice, but we'd love to have as many of you present as possible.  $5= donation to help defray Matt's expenses.  Salads and refreshments wil= l be served.  Please email me off list for address and directions if you= can make it!
 
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-------------------------------1248356831-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 14:26:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 787653BE82; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=4pr1cVvRePhKWFxgEMKVuhdYolqjU4MadFUqY4KNSRM=; b=R+OkEKjCh+zuseuadjM2wfpSATae0ZQrg/BvhDWs5OPRF8ZywyEAWsKtMr09WnZuen VfZvQ8Vpk57Juz5g2CLKXiUi0611SYNtteHIZxcWOZt6SeMaZvDMHsnMcJKD81N8qCQU XRpxLmP5dHVQsIazYIvrb8SMYG/nHNUqTGPi4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=pLSoD4DGvRRe74oX50ghQ/mLYPPHL26FKOpG6gDxp6t5BMfJ7U3ti61lWeVh4ViGpa 61R1qGvi8md7wjNKVK6aSchQCbMrNPZXlL2/tOYPJ3qQ/TlFhe4cg5iY4TnuJPJO+ePt fMKX64EMaRu64Z89x1ZkOLqYxIVTylv61aExk= Message-Id: <2E746B65-2500-453D-832D-C6B1AA0D0150@gmail.com> From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:26:51 -0300 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Wow... MainStage 2 seems really worth checking! I love that app. Thanks for the info. Ariel. El 23/07/2009, a las 10:35, Os escribi=F3: > http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/whats-new/ > > looks pretty basic. > > > os. > > --=20 > os@collective.co.uk > http://twitter.com/expertsleepers > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 14:28:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD64D3BE79; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=X/1ncUwFAWWyhAqBULP+9l6ydEMOxjG3F9LEdYh19w4=; b=cRIQC60eA0/2SX8mpY98oQYaZtyScY06xMywzpUd+GXk8F6gdMaf0ZYVhn8Ws7/vG4 zFBD9v+vhZ9FdQTzvlEnI5X7FcUzIwdlilV3c5EmcAU8CNfp+isUHzgdWgJd4QoOm3Mb aPRrrfByEDRwrg1aKDk8Y8NuWVfHPLv7Cn3tg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sR1fRoWnTJ7fm9UV5+8aEqYBzpFseda1MvEvvFZTL0BH14h/v8R3K9QlGkvlVL6wcz 1U4Vg4L59DAvquyg/e+adl93+HJnxR0XB5r3TpCrltl/6pbI6vmqIiUOlPPa2SWaLhVC /SYlzwrTKtFQS2oie+2w6mkV7aBdtX1KHjNIY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2E746B65-2500-453D-832D-C6B1AA0D0150@gmail.com> References: <2E746B65-2500-453D-832D-C6B1AA0D0150@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:28:07 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907230728r1e7211cembbf79d6479d4f203@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Here's a quick review: http://www.macworld.com/article/141852/2009/07/logicstudio2.html Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Ariel Rzezak wrote: > Wow... MainStage 2 seems really worth checking! > > I love that app. > > Thanks for the info. > > Ariel. > > El 23/07/2009, a las 10:35, Os escribi=C3=B3: > >> http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/whats-new/ >> >> looks pretty basic. >> >> >> os. >> >> -- >> os@collective.co.uk >> http://twitter.com/expertsleepers >> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ >> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 14:35:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50CFF3BE7E; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:35:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=oovXoFOO32wGEdNX7atJ+U81PNk49RpDjXzRMCSnFLY=; b=V8BYFvc70qC6BiCXdD6mRtFMJJP1mQGIgiA0/kgd/mdUOc6NyoLHq05fyKflNLhtM3 /sazmNFNTK0b1mqhLOx92JMLQWVXklxF7SfssrJflooEPczTp+wdEUQ566Vbkul9uCJF IQrYm+PlVTo42TtNjjhMfs2/RTQ88WQ/uwUFc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=GKiKHLdgOgFROI7cQDXrYYjUU3oQrZyVWCzvIWkeVWUoTXZNRBWkoHOkhiJv6svifg nJWOUmczfOuJc7GFNmtSDrVwwITX4tHcZ5ea2x07jkcpAuG1tLoNrp3LjBQHJm6o2EKw MZcNG8eywjh7C5Y29QVxz8u7A4rzhLft2AnMk= Message-Id: <21ED5DE2-5968-473C-94BD-46C9031E52E6@gmail.com> From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907230728r1e7211cembbf79d6479d4f203@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:34:53 -0300 References: <2E746B65-2500-453D-832D-C6B1AA0D0150@gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907230728r1e7211cembbf79d6479d4f203@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:35:00 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Per. Ariel. El 23/07/2009, a las 11:28, Per Boysen escribi=F3: > Here's a quick review: > http://www.macworld.com/article/141852/2009/07/logicstudio2.html > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Ariel Rzezak =20 > wrote: >> Wow... MainStage 2 seems really worth checking! >> >> I love that app. >> >> Thanks for the info. >> >> Ariel. >> >> El 23/07/2009, a las 10:35, Os escribi=F3: >> >>> http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/whats-new/ >>> >>> looks pretty basic. >>> >>> >>> os. >>> >>> -- >>> os@collective.co.uk >>> http://twitter.com/expertsleepers >>> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ >>> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ >>> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 15:04:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 127AB3BE7F; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UlTHwGhDGNowljkgsEyCfzwRbhGMWQvOTnulAhyMBEU=; b=Gk0Ve0pQdmaRvlu+UZ6K84y0UYZg9LgZ/Lzv3PbYfAIXf0d3niLuqlGt8ni9FIJuH0 v80JrtlngJgRIHEOhFAasZhVa1odnUQZ/iuQqqtD8OJUS/n92J6bObbEmJGhexFF15cC hzCN6F6kgjVPd/CQHW8fLCFvvjL64/Km0FaD0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=tp9ZQrZv5Al/8tVxo8rFvxsB2j5QCO5g1cqoggm0be12FE6rXgfwWskMRDta4bZCbx jk9Ing0BjGicOt8b8j/WvsVr6b22y+NwSv9TsLYT/OqiwgR0Hq1xHtgwtK6RpwR4J3lq k3ddN6XUyrWVmJHQm7Y9OF9xZmJBNw9SQxzzo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <21ED5DE2-5968-473C-94BD-46C9031E52E6@gmail.com> References: <2E746B65-2500-453D-832D-C6B1AA0D0150@gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907230728r1e7211cembbf79d6479d4f203@mail.gmail.com> <21ED5DE2-5968-473C-94BD-46C9031E52E6@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:04:51 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 24187a7907958674 Message-ID: <101191640907230804l772096f4t3f882d0a9354bd3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636283a0c3d76fe046f60cf35 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:04:52 +0000 (UTC) --001636283a0c3d76fe046f60cf35 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's a press release, not a review. presumably all the old plug-ins and guitar amp pro are still there if you upgrade (i hope) - wouldn't want to lose the sounds i've programmed maybe the brain-dead "Mainstage has detected a MIDI conflict in your system" has been fixed, but I'd be surprised since they delete every comment i make about it from their forum immediately not much of a compelling reason there for me to drop 2 bills on the upgrade from Logic 8, from what i've seen so far. maybe the new guitar amp modelling stuff sounds much better than the old? the stomp box stuff seems like just a different UI on the effects chain, unless there are a lot of great new algorithms included it'd be nice to be able to map a controller to more than 1 parameter per patch. the video of the looper in action looks like it doesn't even have multiply. basic is the operative term here. --001636283a0c3d76fe046f60cf35 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's a press release, not a review.

presumably all the old plu= g-ins and guitar amp pro are still there if you upgrade (i hope) - wouldn&#= 39;t want to lose the sounds i've programmed

maybe the brain-dea= d "Mainstage has detected a MIDI conflict in your system" has bee= n fixed, but I'd be surprised since they delete every comment i make ab= out it from their forum immediately

not much of a compelling reason there for me to drop 2 bills on the upg= rade from Logic 8, from what i've seen so far. maybe the new guitar amp= modelling stuff sounds much better than the old? the stomp box stuff seems= like just a different UI on the effects chain, unless there are a lot of g= reat new algorithms included

it'd be nice to be able to map a controller to more than 1 paramete= r per patch.

the video of the looper in action looks like it doesn&#= 39;t even have multiply. basic is the operative term here.


--001636283a0c3d76fe046f60cf35-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 15:43:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28AA33BE80; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1248363785; bh=wbfJYCdNgWA+NWH9drtNlfFbHfzB0FFNk/qCF5P1Wuc=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=lEm6maD46trHqM3yhErLsLYmf+q30yUB13CWn0MpERTBqHElDUoqRfqqHHqvPihNA UaGj8Rqi7vGnOyb2eITmnF/9eZcd3bzlKK4shBu/L98wprdvGyE9m+CdGaKo8QswEO Lu7j5pTAL0kJIiYuQtCTRyjLwhz+C1tTjCbUi5YI= Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:43:04 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:43:06 +0000 (UTC) > That's a press release, not a review. Warren, Here's a review :) http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10293712-37.html --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 15:58:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E4BA3BE80; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1248364707; bh=ZbFA83tgGXYQ2xcXVE8PSu2EF052FnT6APUzgUnljEA=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=tD0o+Uq+DwIm9S41BBbwxfa+funGP9dURsjQ6FNLwHdJyAbv/duo5JvVSUf1cdFC1 ifMZXcv4rYyreKbv/WQdwO420+E8Mn6jqkpRlUNNMWWVwedAJTczfCK8OgH6n7PXj4 12OFc3fwvpayrT6XJ+IzxoG01oYigGk3sfaThH14= Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:58:27 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:58:29 +0000 (UTC) > Great page, Sjaak! > Very informative for new users of the RC-50. > But what do you mean with feedback-control? > Do you mean a certain sound-problem with the RC-50? > Or do you want to use feedback (like guitar feedback) > as part of the performance? Hi Christo, Feedback determines how much of the loop is sent back into the loop. The = value varies from 0-100% and any number below 100% results in a fade out = of the existing loop. Phrase samplers like the RC-series lack this featur= e and that's one of the big differences. But the workaround I described o= n my website allows you to use 1 track with feedback control. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 16:09:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE55E3BE81; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:09:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00ed01ca0baf$eff40710$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: Subject: More Gigspam - two 'real' gigs, one 'virtual' - Sat 25th, Sun 26th, Weds 29th Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:09:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EA_01CA0BB8.51970460" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:09:25 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01CA0BB8.51970460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings dear LDers, I'm pleased to announce three gigs in the coming week. I'm doing solo = cello/laptop looping in London on Saturday, another in my ongoing series = of Ustream broadcasts on Sunday and my debut performance with a great = improvising group (probably v. little looping in this one, though I'll = be taking my DL4) next Wednesday. It would be great to see any of you there. Saturday 25 July 8:00 pm The Cross Kings (basement), 126 York Way, London W1 0AX "Four very different live acts. In their own way they each make = experimental electronic music,=20 but they buck the trend by being not-just-another-noodley-act: oh my god = you might even find yourself dancing." See flyer here: http://is.gd/1GByQ Hoofus www.hoofus.com + Chr15m www.sciencegirlrecords.com/chr15m + Spoonfight www.mcld.co.uk/spoonfight + Steve Moyes with video projections by Agnes Hay www.stevemoyes.org.uk Sunday 26 July 5:30 pm Live audio and video streaming on Ustream International times here Solo improvisations Follow link: Soundings From Behind The Net Curtain Recordings of my three previous Ustream brodacasts can be seen there. Wednesday 29 July 8:30 pm Ryan's Bar, 118 Stoke Newington Church Street, London N16 flimflam presents: PRIMAL FRUICAKE II - Frank Charlton (cornet), Annette Giesriegl (voice, = electronics), Carmel Morrissey (voice, dance), SteveMoyes (cello), Illi = Adato (percussion). Return with a new line-up for this international = combo. + Simon Rose and Mark Sanders. Alto and baritone saxophonist back briefly = from the States, reunited with one of GBs finest drummers. Entrance =A36.00/=A34.00 Steve www.stevemoyes.org.uk www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes ------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01CA0BB8.51970460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings dear LDers,
I'm pleased to announce three gigs in the coming week. = I'm doing=20 solo cello/laptop looping in London on Saturday, another in my ongoing = series of=20 Ustream broadcasts on Sunday and my debut performance with a great = improvising=20 group (probably v. little looping in this one, though = I'll be=20 taking my DL4) next Wednesday.
It would be great to see any of you there.
 
Saturday 25 July 8:00 pm
The Cross Kings = (basement),=20 126 York Way, London W1 0AX
"Four very different live acts. In their own way they each make = experimental electronic music,
but they buck=20 the trend by being not-just-another-noodley-act: oh my god you might = even find=20 yourself dancing."
See flyer here: http://is.gd/1GByQ

Hoofus    www.hoofus.com
+
Chr15m    www.sciencegirlrecords.= com/chr15m
+
Spoonfight   www.mcld.co.uk/spoonfight
+
Steve = Moyes with=20 video projections by Agnes Hay   www.stevemoyes.org.uk
 
Sunday = 26 July 5:30=20 pm
Live audio and video streaming on Ustream
International=20 times here
Solo improvisations
Follow = link:=20 Soundings From Behind The Net = Curtain
Recordings of my three=20 previous Ustream brodacasts can be seen there.
 
Wednesday 29 July  8:30 pm
Ryan's Bar, 118 Stoke Newington Church Street, = London=20 N16
flimflam=20 presents:
PRIMAL = FRUICAKE II=20 - Frank Charlton (cornet), Annette Giesriegl (voice, electronics), = Carmel=20 Morrissey (voice, dance), SteveMoyes (cello), Illi Adato (percussion). = Return=20 with a new line-up for this international combo.
+
Simon Rose and Mark Sanders. Alto and baritone=20 saxophonist back briefly from the States, reunited with one of GBs = finest=20 drummers.
Entrance=20 =A36.00/=A34.00
 
Steve

www.stevemoyes.org.uk
www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes
------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01CA0BB8.51970460-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 16:13:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 870573BE81; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:13:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:13:22 UTC Message-id: <3401C7BC-5C68-4BC4-AC58-237FC779A566@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <101191640907230804l772096f4t3f882d0a9354bd3@mail.gmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:13:09 -0500 References: <2E746B65-2500-453D-832D-C6B1AA0D0150@gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907230728r1e7211cembbf79d6479d4f203@mail.gmail.com> <21ED5DE2-5968-473C-94BD-46C9031E52E6@gmail.com> <101191640907230804l772096f4t3f882d0a9354bd3@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:13:22 +0000 (UTC) O > > not much of a compelling reason there for me to drop 2 bills on the > upgrade from Logic 8, from what i've seen so far. maybe the new > guitar amp modelling stuff sounds much better than the old? Logic 8 included amp models? Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 16:16:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FFB23BE85; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:16:22 UTC Message-ID: <4A688B41.7050006@flyloops.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:09:37 -0700 From: Aaron Leese User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: iphone looper ... apparently References: <017c01ca0928$f47af0c0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> <480F2DD3-4F0B-4613-B915-57F7E047C251@btinternet.com> <4A651F50.4040108@flyloops.com> <4A661008.2050302@flyloops.com> <6C8E9C62-DAE9-487B-A07A-F19F282F6E2F@zonemobius.com> In-Reply-To: <6C8E9C62-DAE9-487B-A07A-F19F282F6E2F@zonemobius.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Resent-Message-ID: <-EpJEC.A.DFG.WzIaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Oh yeah, I'm with yah. I know it's a ridiculous claim, I have downloaded the SDKs and looked over it since, pretty slick libraries .... but even fully native cocoa apps don't just run on the iPhone (sure would be cool if they did). Wonder why the misleading title .... I think people have iPhone on the brain nowadays. Jeff Larson wrote: > > > Right, JUCE is *mostly Cocoa now .... with a few carbon bits here and > > there to support certain frameworks where Carbon is required. I was > > unsure where those bits were, but assumed they were substantial enough > > to make my application not work ... perhaps I was wrong. > > I'll be pleasantly surprised if this is true, but I'm 99.9% certain > this can't run on an iPhone. It isn't just Cocoa, it's the Cocoa > component library that was crafted specifically for the iPhone. > I have an iTouch and I've dabbled with iPhone development. You have to > get a special version of Xcode with iPhone libraries. > > The other thing that is suspicious is that you can't just copy Mac > apps onto an iPhone. > You either have to download them from Apple's "App Store" (which > requires an approval process to put them there), or you have to buy the > $500 commercial developer SDK which includes the tools necessary to > distribute private apps. I just checked and Flyloops isn't in the App > Store. > So unless the author shelled out $500 and built your app from source > code, > I don't see how he could have run it on an iPhone. I think he > misspoke in > the article title. The last para even says "Available for Mac and > Windows", > nothing about iPhone in the text. > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 16:57:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D08E83BE84; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kidAc1nJmHb1ro5VrhJPHec/4m0Bw4AGCpHHcScVj6E=; b=pA3UlRvLm3unp8+eLPby/IU3QOd8FwsbgNWtZIm8OssrzAdJUPUrN5ex3YHfocnnuS oULgWhrrcRisPHeoGaXvjfuB3jtkDDmhMDKLVhQhKGXjVbNjVLzV4jjeRiqGg7ilEsDC dO+26rEoSqOjLup9DLIfprKX1fyr/roF/oDdM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=NhpjzlF9SLheOdlO3+LMMuk9X8l0/ulaWD8pyvfyGoR3c/4+LjKXhfxZl/tHRgecth kx6P2AKFMvyTs7IkI3HB2Rq+31sHGN0TPaodZLzWLegPcKEUIL6hTVlaTkxW2plIQyR6 +jLsbbTMYZfbrHPYoJUzUIOVrTicCa2znHwbs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:57:17 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d6a6494b10f8de23 Message-ID: <101191640907230957h26b392fete8dd90d19b2e49d0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f367515138046f626146 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:57:17 +0000 (UTC) --00163630f367515138046f626146 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks. well, it seems like the amp models *are *much better, according to this reviewer. that makes a difference. On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Sjaak wrote: > > That's a press release, not a review. > > Warren, > Here's a review :) http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10293712-37.html > > --- > Sjaak > http://euroloopfest.com/ > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > > > __________________________________ > Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADSL, > surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g. > > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --00163630f367515138046f626146 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks. well, it seems like the amp models are much better, accordin= g to this reviewer. that makes a difference.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote:
> That's a press release, not a review.

Warren,
Here's a review :) http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10293712-37.= html

---
Sjaak
http://euroloopfest.= com/
http://sjaakoverga= auw.com/


__________________________________
Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADSL,= surf naar = http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g.





--
Warren
http://www.ubetoo.com/Arti= st.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
http= ://www.warrensirota.com
--00163630f367515138046f626146-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 17:09:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A67533BE81; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:09:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=RqEoXqaepOXu+5AB1e0sms67IYarNW/RSHlqFkIMfew=; b=tKM0Vn8TYBoPYYxWfNUgCU7vyyS43lCL6pKE5mY4tS0CBqKot83gg/xRNU6WuxWbxr +d4ahFXGvr8Xm3UL1xI4A/bYeLsrg8kuy0BkC+pvP9OfG43Lm/FI9wawu8HzTeHHsQ1m mobj9szQ/aYGGRYjv8SSbb0Z11RyQDSN5Z3GA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=c4zONzjHHop2jRnAzlQijQbFQ5TgA/qHLGdmQ8uWVYoge1HqECbOjM5XhcUQonyytf KRFmMFQd5wpofeTnkqPOV5AknVY7w9/4tcVJnxu3B0YRS56LPQdS5QOk/HV3eiXTNNvl 3a52jkTQaQqo4IIAlQc75I3au3y/oP4SP6lMQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:08:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f1a0c636d68e046f628b7a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:09:03 +0000 (UTC) --001485f1a0c636d68e046f628b7a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rick, we're on the same way ! - Nik Bartsch's RONIN resides in my car player from 3 weeks, and I haven't get enought yet ! You had the fortune to meet him in person, but I well remember the exact moment when Bernhard played that music in his i-pod trough my PA system kitcken ;-) I've immediately bought on line two of his album and - being a Reich fan - I've so deeply fallen in love with Nik Bartsch's music that in these days I'm practicing just on stuff like this. Here's a recording I made with Mobius a few nights ago, with different time signatures: - drums and percussions (are not pre-recorded loops: i've played them on my keyboard) play in 4/4 - bass part (later doubled with piano) plays in 5/4; - piano arpeggios play in 5/4 - ther's also a steady high note piano playing in 6/8 - and other embellishments. *http://www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/Time_Signatures-Fabio_Anile.mp3* or on my itunes podcast Fabio www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo 2009/7/22 Rick Walker > I'm just loving a few things that I'm listening to right now > and not only wanted to share them with you all but wanted > to know what people are currently listening to. > > Nik Bartsch's RONIN ---- 'Holon' > just doesn't leave my car stereo for very long. I'm in love and it's > also inspiring because > this music is just made for live looping experiments (as Bernhard's lovely > and funky set in Rome and Zurich proved. > 2) All day (and as I type) I've been listening to the lovely new > > > --001485f1a0c636d68e046f628b7a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rick, we're on the same way !
- Nik Bartsch's RONIN resides in my car player from 3 weeks, and I= haven't get enought yet !
You had the fortune to meet him in person, but I well remember the exa= ct moment when Bernhard played that music=A0in his i-pod trough my PA syste= m=A0kitcken ;-)
I've immediately bought on line two of his album and - being a Rei= ch fan - I've so deeply fallen in love with Nik Bartsch's music tha= t in these days I'm=A0practicing just on stuff like this.
=A0
Here's a recording I made with Mobius a few nights ago, with diffe= rent time signatures:
=A0- drums and percussions (are not pre-recorded loops: i've playe= d them on my keyboard) play in 4/4
- bass=A0part (later doubled with piano) plays in 5/4;
- piano arpeggios play in 5/4
- ther's also a steady=A0high note=A0piano=A0playing in 6/8
- and other embellishments.
=A0
or on my itunes podcast
=A0
=A0
Fabio
=A0
=A0
2009/7/22 Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
I'm just loving a few things= that I'm listening to right now
and not only wanted to share them w= ith you all but wanted
to know what people are currently listening to.

Nik Bartsch's RO= NIN ---- =A0'Holon'
just doesn't leave my =A0car stereo for= very long. =A0 I'm in love and it's also inspiring because
this= music is just made for live looping experiments (as Bernhard's lovely<= br> and funky set in Rome and Zurich proved. =A0
2) All day (and as I type)= I've been listening to the lovely new


--001485f1a0c636d68e046f628b7a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 17:11:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 210E93BE85; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=c6N6lViwMTxJWVIAiq/acOzkeq1weRIqk+Zy9V6TB7qail8vfXxCcHFaETc65vUG; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: From: Paul Sullivan To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-19--521059450 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: NYC (Brooklyn) gig spam: Lambic + Percy Jones @ Barbes Friday 7/24 @ 8 pm Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:11:20 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-ELNK-Trace: 2cf92e4390c98b9b1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79be1f3f8207677a20bc46a3ea6d281036350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 64.131.145.212 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:11:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-19--521059450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, everyone we had a great gig and great audience Sunday at Local 269, opening for Dee Pop's band with William Parker, Daniel Carter, and Sabir Mateen, et al. We'll be back there in September. And now our second gig this week is at one of our favorite places to play in Brooklyn, Barbes. This is our first time playing here as Lambic Jones, which for the uninitiated is Lambic (Paul Sullivan--guitar, effects and Stephen Moses--Drums, trombone, and effects) plus Percy Jones on fretless bass = Lambic Jones. And of course, much looping from both Steve and I. Please come out and join us! Barbes is in Park Slope on 6th ave at 9th street (718 965-9177). http://barbesbrooklyn.com For more info about us: http://myspace.com/lambic to purchase our cd http://cdbaby.com/cd/lambic --Apple-Mail-19--521059450 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, everyone

we had a = great gig and great audience Sunday at Local 269, opening for Dee Pop's = band with William Parker, Daniel Carter, and Sabir Mateen, et al. We'll = be back there in September. And now our second gig this week is at one = of our favorite places to play in Brooklyn, Barbes. This is our first = time playing here as Lambic Jones, which for the uninitiated is Lambic = (Paul Sullivan--guitar, effects and Stephen Moses--Drums, trombone, and = effects) plus Percy Jones on fretless bass =3D Lambic Jones. And of = course, much looping from both Steve and = I. 

= --Apple-Mail-19--521059450-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 17:14:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73DFE3BE80; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=AUkOrJVkvWiD5ibU2XP8v44x4SrSL7rYK8Mn2Y7V758=; b=jDGnUH0UWBOkfhkxqcn4GTwoC8vVxzlY/rLKBWqFYYM0TBFazylelu4n8KzeBkRnTP jw2SM9fiPOGDeTdBOJdj/6bnaSR1/7eYCDSvFlcnVinF25j8s/00+VTQaaCcIFjosHui e/EOzJeJoxiGAvQIPiOmZzg3KoQ2bTUhJnK1A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Y7U9HwGX3k8GNS+8Bt8t+4o7ZEmcyixRe9LQUKXAJg2XNCR/N2LGz/yBXNEAqCH6jM LJ4T7jmgCII2kUZYvZu2iIOyeTWJ6Y56ijtr8e7ML/Vk46gJU19qDri8vRZ22qF3HjRy AsWmcs67O1NXxd2TxesRFUKZIXh7HHVsNCLy4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:14:45 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907231014x5300f080j78cb3c8e3f1f4a3d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <8sFLID.A.YX.GqJaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:14:46 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > Here's a recording I made with Mobius a few nights ago, with different ti= me > signatures: > =C2=A0- drums and percussions (are not pre-recorded loops: i've played th= em on my > keyboard) play in 4/4 > - bass=C2=A0part (later doubled with piano) plays in 5/4; > - piano arpeggios play in 5/4 > - ther's also a steady=C2=A0high note=C2=A0piano=C2=A0playing in 6/8 > - and other embellishments. > > http://www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/Time_Signatures-Fabio_Anile.mp3 > or on my itunes podcast Wonderful! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 17:23:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B8C23BE89; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:23:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: HRwy2goVM1n_5l1xhK1OnIguGYKOWnDWh2MA9Uu0HJ11gZ8pCdTnxUNtK_2vXiYM2mmkW_1AKtaHh1nexrC6dfRhaMTmgZ3L02ciV8JbpfDKId9HYAAYGfZOOHWTy2a6.8m5FDpMEspmzMyUSWFSIpyiz0gQg209wHVyqViPXfacSn1Om_c9_53VScB4bbQEVhresYHBmOcoe4tuRhcg5lvytH5kgwfPHC5hEZvvpUR2kOt3LwWGgDUERFMGvASIE4s0NXohgKMkQU.gGenrcY.yXDKalNHDrAQ68_EbUElLg3LeGYom6btFfGi1_AY0jgAOC2jeATJq.PCR6cnes9Vb11F3u5F64xU- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <005701ca0bba$451f9240$0201a8c0@A> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <66f9cc1e0907231014x5300f080j78cb3c8e3f1f4a3d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:23:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:23:16 +0000 (UTC) I think it is one of the most obvious compositional devices that, IMHO, can be employed in live looping performances, and not many seem to do it! I find that very odd. King Crimson are great practioners of polyrhythms and polymeters also. "Electric Counterpoint" by Reich is one of my favourite pieces by him. Maybe that's a cliche piece for a guitarist to like, but I don't care. :) It's great. And it's Pat Metheny. The different sonorities that can be achieved with this technique are amazing. Great work, Fabio. Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:14 PM Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > Here's a recording I made with Mobius a few nights ago, with different > time > signatures: > - drums and percussions (are not pre-recorded loops: i've played them on > my > keyboard) play in 4/4 > - bass part (later doubled with piano) plays in 5/4; > - piano arpeggios play in 5/4 > - ther's also a steady high note piano playing in 6/8 > - and other embellishments. > > http://www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/Time_Signatures-Fabio_Anile.mp3 > or on my itunes podcast Wonderful! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.20/2250 - Release Date: 07/20/09 06:16:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 17:30:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4980A3BE84; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:30:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kJbK2yT/8ZVGKFtOSUfsRgI907KgrHxG5vTu2fKWGhs=; b=Y1QeT6iP981RMeYsjeorgEF35ZKJPKWBWoHso5hMaun/SdEhgtvHMiHA5YX4z1onyA H9lfAA4WPeIw+8yG3gsclQ33KUMjAocW+5sJZdRo9pA9NFgatMcGF+Cuk7wnZoFAzeKB fu0IpdGa/xGHGYdVG93DR9179KX4BQnZF/cpM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vDzg14dNwaAAQhn8c79E7mkfN6UfVxvSHa8fZr+B0ZLMg3XaHgOG+TknTwOY/6W96B V+T+EIpdoMPFxLuGaVY2ZPQISboEiBysyGVlb8CQtisMgd4jabHWvbQBugnbu4Coz8Sq YDYzbp+RHoIT9CyRFgdr0KdElLFLF7IYF/Oww= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <005701ca0bba$451f9240$0201a8c0@A> References: <66f9cc1e0907231014x5300f080j78cb3c8e3f1f4a3d@mail.gmail.com> <005701ca0bba$451f9240$0201a8c0@A> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:30:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) From: Fabio_A To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636457f8eb2ee3f046f62d72a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:30:26 +0000 (UTC) --001636457f8eb2ee3f046f62d72a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 2009/7/23 Ricky Graham > I think it is one of the most obvious compositional devices that, IMHO, can > be employed in live looping performances, and not many seem to do it! Bernhard Wagner is becoming a Master in doing this, He had an amazing live set in Rome. I hope to put his video on the internet soon...In the meanwhile you can check his site where you can find lot of examples here: http://bernhardwagner.net/soundz/echoplexLoops.html Thanks fabio www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:14 PM > Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on your > iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) > > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Fabio_A wrote: > >> Here's a recording I made with Mobius a few nights ago, with different >> time >> signatures: >> - drums and percussions (are not pre-recorded loops: i've played them on >> my >> keyboard) play in 4/4 >> - bass part (later doubled with piano) plays in 5/4; >> - piano arpeggios play in 5/4 >> - ther's also a steady high note piano playing in 6/8 >> - and other embellishments. >> >> http://www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/Time_Signatures-Fabio_Anile.mp3 >> or on my itunes podcast >> > > Wonderful! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.20/2250 - Release Date: 07/20/09 > 06:16:00 > > --001636457f8eb2ee3f046f62d72a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2009/7/23 Ricky Graham <rock.guitar.guru@binternet.c= om>
I think it is one of the most ob= vious compositional devices that, IMHO, can be employed in live looping per= formances, and not many seem to do it!
=A0
=A0
Bernhard Wagner is becoming a Master in doing this, He had an amazing = live set in Rome.
I hope to put his video on the internet soon...In the meanwhile you ca= n check his site where you can find lot of=A0examples here: http://bernhardwagner.net/= soundz/echoplexLoops.html=A0
=A0
Thanks
=A0
fabio
=A0

----- O= riginal Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 2= 3, 2009 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on = your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable)=20



On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Fabio_A<<= a href=3D"mailto:eterogenus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">eterogenus@gmail.c= om> wrote:
Here's a recording I made wi= th Mobius a few nights ago, with different time
signatures:
- drums a= nd percussions (are not pre-recorded loops: i've played them on my
keyboard) play in 4/4
- bass part (later doubled with piano) plays in 5/= 4;
- piano arpeggios play in 5/4
- ther's also a steady high note= piano playing in 6/8
- and other embellishments.

http://www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/Time_Signatures-Fabio_Anile.mp3=
or on my itunes podcast

Wonderful!

Greetings fro= m Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



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--001636457f8eb2ee3f046f62d72a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 19:32:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BEA53BE80; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090723153228.YL2NS.2279547.root@mp20> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:32:27 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) Cc: Fabio_A In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Fabio, Love the clip you posted - very Nik Bartsch indeed. Do more. Best, Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 20:00:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 414ED3BE84; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:00:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=t9Ksbz5rtq1broleOztcV45NBtfl5WszDESM0sehzkA=; b=VglqNbYhMNH3v+x28Aw9QyIUxHZZGo4/YVwN+FfgaobLOaiuMavaT6I21zrBnlP5TC hbCojjLFtvs3JA1Z+rFT0YFVKYb71dYNY5Bcf6REHUiGKXotQzXt8j2yCkIjosDgGapK Vk1UFRxp8JpeAg4DMd1mNzKpiM2k4ULPy0NaY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IPm3cAp+GbA5+v0WGbJPej3fRcc0RA6MMxVcjA5JbCO4c11rZEfgCxF3SVhlf4pNMb aIe3NZgSJseh6GtMKus3cBhPrkYFd2WxxJ5PzMIJmBpJBjP6HwMrraiP3Dv3JLc3NZfk IQfSEGmRsUMPhwOIC9v257BZd8iApH5bmSQpE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640907230957h26b392fete8dd90d19b2e49d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640907230957h26b392fete8dd90d19b2e49d0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:00:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:00:30 +0000 (UTC) anyhow, you could build a decent guitar/bass sound with the onboard 8.0 plugins. the fuzz/wah was enough for some playable guitar tones. 2009/7/23, Warren Sirota : > thanks. well, it seems like the amp models *are *much better, according to > this reviewer. that makes a difference. > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Sjaak wrote: > >> > That's a press release, not a review. >> >> Warren, >> Here's a review :) http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10293712-37.html >> >> --- >> Sjaak >> http://euroloopfest.com/ >> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of >> ADSL, >> surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g. >> >> >> > > > -- > Warren > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 > http://www.warrensirota.com > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 20:14:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FDA63BE85; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:14:59 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 Cc: Raul Bonell In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Resent-Message-ID: <7mWCWD.A.b1G.DTMaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:14:59 +0000 (UTC) I just recently got a new MacBook Pro that's pre-loaded with Logic 8 Express. I have not messed with the program yet. I launched it and registered it. And then I went online to buy a book/DVD to tell me how to use it. Any thoughts on Logic from y'all? Recommendations? Caveats? Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 20:23:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B12A3BE80; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/utVmvOgemavEhdPz/X6IQkm5n1CQqHK35hW6naOQVE=; b=QGx+a18u+ZdaG3zw6PS3n0fYFr1/fXKTlNj0bSG6OuXSqfESbGP0DcmLGOAiN0OKx9 V6RyQ5JKflUXQtoo/fjj7rXR5tdQ+el7Cplk3IHdqW+wJpv/sWgbuu1fMxPw+yIN1huW uWKlGfXZfKU6kx8tsLApPkZ6rtsbmcyRy1ARs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QSNkNxf9EmEIeJbj0teSWISymN/vauU58tUTPMjkxuaG+Jkte4HJeBIv2/vlX859u1 uQfOg9uaAZQZ+4jX8XKkBMMuKk0HK2IttQov7r3F/O7UP+ks2kiMIrxX5TEUrmcwTTGk SPusUGQA3+l6X+kTwchaVWs00Pam/lwe6P3PA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> References: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:23:45 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907231323t223e1f77x5c92d11d2fc76209@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:23:45 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:14 PM, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn wrote: > I just recently got a new MacBook Pro that's pre-loaded with Logic 8 Expr= ess. > I have not messed with the program yet. > I launched it and registered it. > And then I went online to buy a book/DVD to tell me how to use it. > Any thoughts on Logic from y'all? It's great. Mainstage makes all those effects and guitar sim's playable live with laptop looping. > Recommendations? Yes, you should upgrade to Logic Pro 9 ASAP. The new amp sim's are excellen= t! > Caveats? Not any I can recall. Except for not being for free. Ah... well, not sure the plug-in called "a deep looper" is quite up to the expectations of most members of this board. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 20:36:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25F673BE87; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:36:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=v3hkEbh1m23O98muwFhvYgg4Xw1kQdoFTheUavk7sMw=; b=H9/X4smdwcURseQcEwoq/Xxz7wZqrYSq2LaY5Xswb3FhZAXsVhxNqDEnudjrUmLjBE 59kNBSKID3Bio0Bqr5NTDouegaPkTJ3E2j2BLUZBfcxH5F6zGTrHkyy5TLI/sGmAhWHp xH3fgITOgfvsY9ug3WVbHzjgBw73cml+bzEdY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vtfkUiPmVXCqIGAAbSqBbiXmKfcJ1eMe+UwkGGbAGF4C3a95H6O+TdS7KEducdwhru f4l7d3ypb3PCueJzsVioaRfB4pXCwJKrzl54eytGWqUPeEonbScMoU9oR9et1nFYfu/+ 0p23bfPkTuP4w3t7sH5JOABSwrYoZYcASWtx4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090723153228.YL2NS.2279547.root@mp20> References: <20090723153228.YL2NS.2279547.root@mp20> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:36:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:36:52 +0000 (UTC) ... nice, fabio! nik's fans increasing on this list ... 2009/7/23, tEd =AE kiLLiAn : > Fabio, > > Love the clip you posted - very Nik Bartsch indeed. > > Do more. > > Best, > > Ted > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 20:37:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE1E43BE7F; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:37:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5461E37E-B6C8-4C06-9EA7-685A0D50C6C4@earthlink.net> From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:28:23 -0700 References: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:37:45 +0000 (UTC) On Jul 23, 2009, at 1:14 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > I just recently got a new MacBook Pro that's pre-loaded with Logic 8 =20= > Express. > > I have not messed with the program yet. > > I launched it and registered it. > > And then I went online to buy a book/DVD to tell me how to use it. > > Any thoughts on Logic from y'all? > > Recommendations? Upgrade to Logic Studio: $299=3D Best buy. The plugins are amazing. =20 SoundtrackPro is amazing, don't hesitate. dpc > > Caveats? > > Ted > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 20:38:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FB1B3BE88; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=T8HLW5qeaKgKe7DgvvYwandeeNqh1e+C8Ef3dWbjxe0=; b=FsbBOR/3gIpIKdwi7UAT2JhWPnJecb17/l3ddsL9Egs26mV+kmGyO6jvVDoFKoiL1s RDE48Cv9Hvt0YAhRarv0MIZZ29dxsqpWa19wkHX+xuMdUqyjh4nnkp+944/Fp3aGYkMp V7Rz8SG/7GR4auJAPkPQr5nKAYGpj+FWLpfl8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=elszRqlUw5PogL6IRkIcauFDkx1fmWu2i3KRiYzhPlIhwGEZcGJih5CgTRjNE0cjXf lWvRkIr+5yVU3XxJD/epLMSAmjg5KNRG5JWYsrL6naNo0pHEr3rvjZLKYWmNr5/PCAbY seOQtaHwwNSMQQ5CJRgCVs4WqZiXcEMy2cLTQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> References: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:38:09 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8d432d47d9261498 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:38:10 +0000 (UTC) > Any thoughts on Logic from y'all? ignore it. go get Live. os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 20:45:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DC843BE88; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Dpcu7lcbLyBm5rlNmWLpGaJgOP4JjcjGzfnob1yWkAI=; b=aJAi8xl+TJ3Vv+CW/PxxJhkPfEYg0THQfP11toeuAqu/n9YpZN5X7XYKzeyWf+ySY7 Hyyd9bKGw8ScIH26JsKHRbvO2TvVO+YsZrqqkM8e/LfrJ0ntglqN0az4F1rEJwZXgC4I yupErzJM1mylCetvyRfD8mRx9AEt92gQCNkQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LhEj2bBQH6MGoR6PdwcGjGC3GLM+qX7nnGOiiyPoP/Wwqga80WJVqfFQCdDSFdRthN Ism+azFQS8F410iiOf9T7x9jzuZi8VFRp2H2zObUkU4/sRZ03vV/l8lYfccd0es79tos rsWsB2z1F2TI7yTiTQPYd8ulK7skSCYSLlnvc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:45:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Did anybody (besides me) get in on the Propellerheads Record beta? It's pretty cool, and runs on both PC and Mac. On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Os wrote: >> Any thoughts on Logic from y'all? > > ignore it. > > go get Live. > > > os. > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://twitter.com/expertsleepers > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 20:50:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67F323BE88; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090723152600.q7a0s94vggc40s8w@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:26:00 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 References: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: <3Lx46.A.zT.U0MaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Yep.. and we're in open beta now.. I have two 'invite keys' available, let me know if you are interested.. :) -cpr Quoting Tony K : > Did anybody (besides me) get in on the Propellerheads Record beta? > > It's pretty cool, and runs on both PC and Mac. > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Os wrote: >>> Any thoughts on Logic from y'all? >> >> ignore it. >> >> go get Live. >> >> >> os. >> >> -- >> os@collective.co.uk >> http://twitter.com/expertsleepers >> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ >> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ >> >> > > > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 20:51:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D65173BE85; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=km2eNgkKkq7o2QXIczdf9ChKM+PzzcV84nwVCoB4BlY=; b=oJ56sdrXg8iX2NSlhY1LJgx4pyvK2f6+kPFkT+ERYPIMEuk27N72olbqBjFnOg4i20 EQbvRcH/HZX6/9lKFntvRhdRNOdYPeeCwsVgBwE0IFwsv/hNfJcadyN35uhb+W0qnc+W YpCa5j9JnPpjNFscuIQpsGcJHgn28bHrzA9MY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Fa2/I3WTu+8FSv8VerQ3mwl5GVCU9rzeFiNmBjz4xeXkndtXILlhGW/rPDq1GyK7OA B52wQVi5jzWX8OqDDIwWthLtqyuVatkr2dwwlylMb/q2j8zZg/qRfG2letqrsXZAmNRa Ifn2vPFla3loM6D9JRiA10fyOFmPkmQPoqjvw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5461E37E-B6C8-4C06-9EA7-685A0D50C6C4@earthlink.net> References: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> <5461E37E-B6C8-4C06-9EA7-685A0D50C6C4@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:51:08 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907231351j6ba08c6fs2d1e828d0dbc2831@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:51:09 +0000 (UTC) > On Jul 23, 2009, at 1:14 PM, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn wrote: >> Recommendations? Tikka Massala. (I use medium strength for brown rice) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 21:03:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 635FE3BE7E; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=55FSLIxlcEI32jAoLliJYXbFJRTYzt0VLyMKwHPy3Lo=; b=CvK6ZSkNEZrlgHUvn2tex4wKAu7JLRSGvb74iIDEvyUuTTGbE5MqCqcqizlH/Ii5zX H5a1QOEgsQS2/2aKWR3zcUWvGwblP+ohavRW//cIP485OyUa55TNTndWnNhb+YVD3p/p oIcgxYO9yMuVf1VLwM3g2rMzk5txlhJzbKzYU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ENwqg+/fFUmiuZptBCfZOHcvWssOsKWnffxbFnq2CKbu80DRiKzOeCQmrVojIVgbtI udmHDXAHVK1v8dZWuFEOkCC54evfG2VFNJaRTgMiEGLVY6nUI8JwIgsLE2UbgGCFJ+UG SC+J/BloA3B2SnDD99/KD+gec/kh/scYZ+G+M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:03:32 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907231403i67448d75p8f05929f0fb6edb6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <50EvGB.A.6-.mANaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:03:34 +0000 (UTC) > Here's a recording I made with Mobius a few nights ago, with different time > signatures: Yep, Mobius is excellent for this. Consider this: http://vimeo.com/4565667 You can do the counting yourself, or you can read the spoiler: "I had experimented with combining loops of odd lengths. Based on a (non-audible) pulse, there are different "beep" vocal tracks, one eight-pulse, one seven-pulse, one eleven-pulse, one 1+2+3+4+5(=15) and one six-element Fibonacci (1+2+3+5+8=19) one on different loop tracks, which would repeat after 7*8*11*15*19=175560 pulses (or roughly half a day after the piece had ended)." Enjoy :-P Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 21:39:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F7613BE88; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090723173931.4TQHS.2289890.root@mp06> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:39:31 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) Cc: Raul Bonell In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Actually been a fan since May of 2008 when music journalist pal Josef Wooda= rd turned me on to them. ---- Raul Bonell wrote:=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ... nice, fabio! nik's fans increasing on this list ... 2009/7/23, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn : > Fabio, > > Love the clip you posted - very Nik Bartsch indeed. > > Do more. > > Best, > > Ted > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 21:41:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EE153BE88; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090723174118.NNWDG.2289968.root@mp06> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:41:18 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 Cc: Per Boysen In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907231351j6ba08c6fs2d1e828d0dbc2831@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Heheheh . . . > On Jul 23, 2009, at 1:14 PM, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn wrote: >> Recommendations? Tikka Massala. (I use medium strength for brown rice) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 22:08:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 068E93BE81; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:08:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oTe51wGAIO85rxGGkCLC9Y3JA7njfxE0o85ngc1neDI=; b=AqKMtUjZ30zI+ecdNVwShdb2cOkoRVpS4wTCGGHCxvfQ6iaZAMdpvSeifSy4VLy/rB c+tNG956x5jmBd3P5lGzrra8r/M3TLUN+C/Ufeuof6vsCQZN9lgyh5LwNU6tLNwCZ5Gs 7a9wj9XZont7FcPBSWJnmBHNs7IPp9OJfKpec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vPi/yxNUneDRtLFg3Fi/iB3+BBt1Cr0/dcPr9YFvY0bGtBE8Xaoe+intgSV5YIxVoV dZw2/yCb7b8fAr7IWlFXGjuoMCM83cHH9HJV377h+v2FAgP2DuxCmY1AM+SjJVDDb36K St2OhfEsvBsfuA2bnQPQgUGoSXDqYRQPStpcQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090723174118.NNWDG.2289968.root@mp06> References: <66f9cc1e0907231351j6ba08c6fs2d1e828d0dbc2831@mail.gmail.com> <20090723174118.NNWDG.2289968.root@mp06> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:08:57 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:08:57 +0000 (UTC) The new Logic looper seems very similar to the looper now included in Live 8, but with a cooler looking interface. I wonder if you can get it to set the tempo of your track. I actually find myself using Live's looper a lot now. I put Mobius in send 1 and Looper post instrument or audio and use a trick Per taught me, of creating a very long "clip" that just contains automation that starts with no effect for a spell and then slowly ramps up to full on effect and back to none. It's a nice quick way to get an evolving bed going. More importantly, I think what's awesome about both Live and Logic's new loop plug ins are that finally devs are taking the first baby steps in providing cool looping tools. I remember years ago Digital Performer introduced P.O.L.A.R. (performance oriented loop assisted recording) it was a good first step, but when I wrote to them and asked if feedback % control could be introduced, the response was "Why would anyone ever want that?" And so I was back to my hardware looper. (probably a Repeater.. but maybe a JamMan) Ah, the good ol' days. It's really an amazing time in the software looping world. Two major apps have built in loopers... (I guess 3 if you include Guitar Rig) there are probably a dozen or so out there by small developers that are free or inexpensive. It wasn't very long ago that if you wanted MIDI synced looping you could get an EDP or JamMan and that was it. Movies were a nickel and I wore an onion pinned to my trousers, as that was the fashion of the time... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 22:20:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB1953BE7C; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=NndFvWBtp52OU2SJ6kvZDjXGuwCXGSGtDzzgLMuvRYw5+b95R4ZpmS0SEhIWVIw03NBf3SxhEIUJwE8Xss+5Fl830Pluv1YMjZgdUQcYxav0iarN7YSMMSR2gTOj0zv6wm5XwMiGrgaSihyc8b3Pjly+xdgeWS0f2NeIar76+kc= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: NM26iXoVM1lTCh8PcqFjyRgDgkIcViHeUiWlRqSxXUcn_tyFJ6H6JC.4HJ5TwS.2uo1hAUBt5dwFDNHaTxZRMA1rEDkAouT0N.Xyk00fa3Pcw9nFi2zg249HauO2uq9OHEIwieBvd_IsEZ4amKc6r9cirW7ldwwXA3tzMWl337ttWZAay5..NBRYASwFY6frVwy6gZxYxbmc8S8SMOi4I3xt2HnyIclo6IePjWFGK1qN.ZZhzGXpdG22iQjk4Bf7ffxUiXiXZOH4OJNIvbbQUBNIrbBQTKW1wIHZyLilCubWEaSVqDhITeBRhJkozs2T3AN4bEcz4OJtxM5k9.civueZSQK1U93kg3M- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <07560500B8C14BFCB6D771A4ACE00066@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <20090723173931.4TQHS.2289890.root@mp06> Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:20:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:20:27 +0000 (UTC) I'm liking this Nik Bartsch gentleman. Thanks for that. Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd ® kiLLiAn" To: Cc: "Raul Bonell" Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:39 PM Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) Actually been a fan since May of 2008 when music journalist pal Josef Woodard turned me on to them. ---- Raul Bonell wrote: ============= ... nice, fabio! nik's fans increasing on this list ... 2009/7/23, tEd ® kiLLiAn : > Fabio, > > Love the clip you posted - very Nik Bartsch indeed. > > Do more. > > Best, > > Ted > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.25/2256 - Release Date: 07/23/09 06:02:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 22:41:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C37B63BE80; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:41:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=l5f/06ESkMQQ4wiOjG/XjUBGHF3yKYddof9uGJO0G0o=; b=G1LTf3PsxDNl4I7g0S3T/xV7jyffu0zfvdkd3WJHd7qFsLigLBJz2ou7+UGE5Zaflw aZFiTmQJoHEDLXnzMQ93AUp193PKM6jXmiGxiQkHLs9XYBAjOc5U7885f26WjKj8y88y c/CinVlgieZMYOaazEZedoZJhscAk/PDYL7Ro= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KL2+o9JyqEtjahBIqPu7YIkPEfr8LdxtYfxiLIXqKp4QU2MQwqovZGGzsryqGnN+Va Exp4V68ietbuhaIaq9FNP2jHY4KjED0Y2K+6nrHB7TKhAS/6Wed1z2Sz2FPh4T+OZBrZ Ee7aZcbeXxf2J4GLkd1gTUIKprWKvYZY7AU5g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> References: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:41:21 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907231541g75467376rb992235ca84b83ec@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <8znPKD.A.0oE.ScOaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:41:22 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:14 PM, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn wrote: > Caveats? CDM maybe answers that under this article's last subject "What Is Not in this Upgrade?" Link: http://bit.ly/yfkRF Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 22:46:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0510F3BE7E; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <51433.69.59.203.33.1248389102.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> References: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: improv@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=0, required 6, autolearn=not spam) X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner-From: improv@peak.org X-Spam-Status: No, No X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-ID: n6NMjCDE012248 X-mailscanner1-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-2.552, required 6, AWL 0.05, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-mailscanner1-MailScanner-From: improv@peak.org Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Hey Ted, I just made the leap myself, from Logic 6 to 8. A client of mine is working on a project in Logic 8 Express, and I'll be mixing it, so it seems like it's time for the upgrade. I don't have a lot of experience with Logic 8 yet, but have helped set up a few clients computers, and I have to say that with 8, Logic is as user-friendly as it ever has been. Logic has a reputation for being deep and inscrutable, but Apple's influence is finally starting to show. I'm sure you'll find your own share of headaches getting used to it, but just be glad you didn't start w/Logic 5 :-) I was going to wait for 9 and budget for a new computer in the fall, but this job came up so I'm going for it now. Will have to do an OS update as well, so I am planning on a week of computer hell to get everything working together again. Welcome to the madhouse! > I just recently got a new MacBook Pro that's pre-loaded with Logic 8 > Express. > > I have not messed with the program yet. > > I launched it and registered it. > > And then I went online to buy a book/DVD to tell me how to use it. > > Any thoughts on Logic from y'all? > > Recommendations? > > Caveats? > > Ted > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 22:51:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 789503BE85; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JMnTpWwK2HJuauyJosU51LoqYDiVRhAT5uj4DU3C+tU=; b=Sswj20S6NrUf8ETxH5Oat7gSPqR1iJnWuqPSje1XiSncURz+YcgNLtSEQSuFXsPnNu L1Nv4m8Qz49ttBpaohWEXsI/MIDl6d6WThZKBFTfH3V4uv5JiYXD4SK46HsEeXvEZ25X Icpo8gRTsPvYtMulTdXpz7YqAXBeddgE0+T4g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UY5mxS4Nlp/k7YFP/xaQY/mNe+8CN1TPPwFhzPJwv9L3zZ6ZgtQElpbkLUc8eSJmLC BTogEbG2VYMeWa9umvhzimmvpa7zL9tBstql8Yp7hUWWBnAxp1rlDD3xgr4W8kASlxi3 cbDJEK4Cx89CFvK9xa7y4RphZp3AE8shmk8n4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <51433.69.59.203.33.1248389102.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> References: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> <51433.69.59.203.33.1248389102.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:51:37 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907231551o23a44f17o8e9a497f535e048@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:51:38 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:45 AM, wrote: > I was going to wait for 9 and budget for a new computer in the fall, but > this job came up so I'm going for it now. Will have to do an OS update as > well, It runs best on Macs with Intel CPU's. Just in case anyone is thinking about getting it for an old PPC machine, it will run... but not optimally. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 22:52:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8434B3BE81; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090723185208.IHJBJ.2304797.root@mp16> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:52:08 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 Cc: improv@peak.org In-Reply-To: <51433.69.59.203.33.1248389102.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:52:09 +0000 (UTC) My only previous experience (DAW wise) was with ProTools LE and for a looooong time with SoundEdit16. This whole new program is going to take some getting used to. That's why I'm buying books and stuff . . . to get slightly ahead of the "idiot" curve (which I am usually way behind). Wish me luck. Ted ---- improv@peak.org wrote: ============= Hey Ted, I just made the leap myself, from Logic 6 to 8. A client of mine is working on a project in Logic 8 Express, and I'll be mixing it, so it seems like it's time for the upgrade. I don't have a lot of experience with Logic 8 yet, but have helped set up a few clients computers, and I have to say that with 8, Logic is as user-friendly as it ever has been. Logic has a reputation for being deep and inscrutable, but Apple's influence is finally starting to show. I'm sure you'll find your own share of headaches getting used to it, but just be glad you didn't start w/Logic 5 :-) I was going to wait for 9 and budget for a new computer in the fall, but this job came up so I'm going for it now. Will have to do an OS update as well, so I am planning on a week of computer hell to get everything working together again. Welcome to the madhouse! > I just recently got a new MacBook Pro that's pre-loaded with Logic 8 > Express. > > I have not messed with the program yet. > > I launched it and registered it. > > And then I went online to buy a book/DVD to tell me how to use it. > > Any thoughts on Logic from y'all? > > Recommendations? > > Caveats? > > Ted > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 23:06:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 564AF3BE7C; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:06:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 9476 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:06:25 UTC Message-Id: From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090723185208.IHJBJ.2304797.root@mp16> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:06:24 -0700 References: <20090723185208.IHJBJ.2304797.root@mp16> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:06:25 +0000 (UTC) Here's a recommendation: MacProVideo. http://www.macprovideo.com/tutorials/logic These guys have an amazing collection of video tutorials on using =20 Logic Studio, including some exceptional courses about how producers =20 of different genres use the program. I've especially enjoyed Steve =20 H.'s Master Classes. Best thing is that recently they added a view-=20 online subscription option so you can buy a month's access for $25 or =20= so, watching anything on the site for one fee for 30 days, as opposed =20= to paying per course and downloading or getting disks. The content =20 really is superb, imo, way more comprehensive on all aspects of Logic =20= than anything else I've found. And it looks like they'll be covering ver. 9 right away. dpc On Jul 23, 2009, at 3:52 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > This whole new program is going to take some getting used to. > > That's why I'm buying books and stuff . . . to get slightly ahead of =20= > the "idiot" curve (which I am usually way behind). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 23:11:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8109E3BE7C; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:11:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QPBxEqOeiFMaGX7TTMuNCKH/v6bIsF+SrdO0oBu/O+Q=; b=CQrr4gJmPxhj+3sI8WVmaxzDEWFgnQnJNEF8lrGNZp23qiLgesfSKSKvb4+bkQKMHO lb4YApec7NEnPMnoDmnMywFtPUyPSoBpO1KAIdZaYNPhm7exD/oJmyPC5GohzgHh4yQF FhNAr+wEesa9HckXSgJVdaqY0KCpsroj6s2s4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vqZdNl0GDRNLOmBa5dDwKifbLmlPuW5ZkfdTjzLPtfBQAx+MYPcgTGKcVrTJNxNMFZ TNv9oyjghlxkGsAmvS3VOjPARVJV5Ho7KSPtPVz+9A/cBenY5q/OAhRce6NzsSHDxvjR ou1uCnh/jUYpbjKygC3s3XLV+HtMlgw2c9cOA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090723185208.IHJBJ.2304797.root@mp16> References: <51433.69.59.203.33.1248389102.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> <20090723185208.IHJBJ.2304797.root@mp16> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:11:53 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907231611p39cf37d8heb736c8d4b4a9e3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1kXm6B.A.t8F.64OaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:11:54 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:52 AM, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn wrote: > That's why I'm buying books and stuff . . . to get slightly ahead of the = "idiot" curve (which I am usually way behind). > > Wish me luck. "Trying to learn Logic" is not a very good idea, because the application isn't designed for that. It is rather designed to be a highly configurable toolbox for producing recorded music (not even Apples "new facade" has changed that). So the best approach is to simply define what yo want to do and then check out how to do perform those tasks with Logic. There use to be a little book called "Getting Started" that you can keep on the side as you start goofing around. Most tasks in music production can be carried out in many different ways using Logic and every producer seems to have his own method. The idea with this multi facility design is to make it possible for nine-to-five music engineers and producers to become very fast with the tool. Usually they set up their workflow and stick with it, not many pro's actually knows everything in Logic. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 23:51:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A69D03BE79; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:51:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QhMpyfQxp7Z+rp9mo4LMouu3/qvZAjtYuj8eQcg4j9Q=; b=TVguP/t1IriXY7rxZY2VEaINqUl8WOAYUWPpT+UFAe1myJbAF7ISQqVU73QBEUJQkS crkRwPpIULsa4+vEMw2EPoan3Rp3vHdjY6hbo0t7nCVNBD9WLZXsLnxkXfdJqZdXrkmu edF4UFkUCs8T5njpPHZZd6Ubq+N2G34ztb7/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Gw6ZxW3Qu9x6i7g7SqW6yo+M/1ZPCNuujKyrLYwTEEmuMYzgUzlR9NdWAIPgfOgDep tQA2cw1xLQF+AYKmIAUI+VAmry4bNlzqxIZA7QmCDlp7g34cPcAylcDhjVhDbhV/dD7D BQNkZNXUoegokD/8RLe4Kr+82XNMcDREOpDrw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907231611p39cf37d8heb736c8d4b4a9e3@mail.gmail.com> References: <51433.69.59.203.33.1248389102.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> <20090723185208.IHJBJ.2304797.root@mp16> <66f9cc1e0907231611p39cf37d8heb736c8d4b4a9e3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:51:06 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db61ca3ef854046f6829b8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:51:07 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db61ca3ef854046f6829b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i learned how to use logic (i started with 4.7) just by watching other people use it who knew what they were doing. massively shortened the learning curve for me. if you do happen to know anyone who's experienced with it, definitely hook up with them and spend an afternoon recording something. you'll shorten your curve by weeks! sim On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:52 AM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn > wrote: > > That's why I'm buying books and stuff . . . to get slightly ahead of th= e > "idiot" curve (which I am usually way behind). > > > > Wish me luck. > > > --0016e6db61ca3ef854046f6829b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i learned how to use logic (i started with 4.7) just by watching other peop= le use it who knew what they were doing. massively shortened the learning c= urve for me. if you do happen to know anyone who's experienced with it,= definitely hook up with them and spend an afternoon recording something. y= ou'll shorten your curve by weeks!

sim

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:11 AM,= Per Boysen <pe= rboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:52 AM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn<tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:=
> That's why I'm buying books and stuff . . . to get slightly ah= ead of the "idiot" curve (which I am usually way behind).
>
> Wish me luck.



--0016e6db61ca3ef854046f6829b8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 23 23:52:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0D543BE7E; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nf6H6WBrEbhg4VuFXGxHpawwb1UQwbdqoy0B6ePeGiw=; b=MRt28AIska2eIP1GPZeR6U0hqwGK2i/NNKgKE7M1o8A1zqcEh0Yi3GWLvH06173/A2 99GJ0vVgzzBNWRLmrB2c5pqLPwLJ92HcZTJ7AHP3XmHDGuWSqbXK2+n+8NZZyYFRbCY2 0NMxHqiR8yh1NpHExuNewcyt9sZfzKpa5lsTk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=n0uEzEKRteHBx4OIk5/gEtEWkBLF8m2NycUChUcNF8kOgmaYBs/C7CCc8ksW0Uqwo3 aHy9odH+roAKOGpqHu+MzBxb9vtIM5l3p0N2AriWp0uRgfWZXlgclz171eKnFhwbIghK d7OKbC3Rw6HZgSCTWrDfuP0MA/Y6pFpDyyVrg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <07560500B8C14BFCB6D771A4ACE00066@a> References: <20090723173931.4TQHS.2289890.root@mp06> <07560500B8C14BFCB6D771A4ACE00066@a> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:52:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636499fa30d2732046f682ee1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:52:27 +0000 (UTC) --001636499fa30d2732046f682ee1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit great fabio! this is something i've been meaning to get into for ages...you've inspired me to work harder at it! sim --001636499fa30d2732046f682ee1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit great fabio! this is something i've been meaning to get into for ages...you've inspired me to work harder at it!

sim
--001636499fa30d2732046f682ee1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 00:24:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 375E33BE81; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:24:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:x-priority:date :references:x-mailer; bh=ztoBOwBenoSAqr8jbnOwrpYH/iog+oka/qz/r/Q+fiA=; b=Uba2ZTNOCAtUe6Y9qvM4aylKFXYJ3QIFfBv5pG6QS3RtzMr/GTMgcm7x54mP54bq7m 3Wx3xwtYkjujUuD6qcRDsy66pdrQ3XMWUc1Qhv0rFYCvrQqiKYP4mP5JIJ0fatUNp2Gm G9AUPCDKW/AyEMU4xdLOQrczuYVqV2OlrB48g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :x-priority:date:references:x-mailer; b=gtYiFGHaC8oyfmC4ryL3oqEFbi530PZKdypVApSm/u0Ide875/RAHq0juWLbR2dmD1 QMfyBT7EFYlcVoTZgoROnlgrYA75NEVUXR9SjZbYb+mKZ0jEDUC/by5I5Tx5SYzrYcQl dM3QrtYGsyoudBDjQlOw4XnojLrhU6ud5cztA= Message-Id: <9E094BBE-3262-48E1-AB9F-DC48AB53E4CC@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--496822130 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:55:17 -0700 References: <20090723185208.IHJBJ.2304797.root@mp16> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <6cJZWD.A.ab.M9PaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:24:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6--496822130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Jul 23, 2009, at 4:06 PM, David Coffin wrote: > Here's a recommendation: MacProVideo. > > http://www.macprovideo.com/tutorials/logic Yes, I find the visual feeling/learning component really aids the learning curve. I found these decently introductory: http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/01/28/free-logic-pro-video-tutorials/ The clips are also on Youtube but I think they are organized differently. regards BobC http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier5 --Apple-Mail-6--496822130 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Jul 23, 2009, = at 4:06 PM, David Coffin wrote:

Here's a recommendation: = MacProVideo.

http://www.macprovideo= .com/tutorials/logic

Yes, I find = the visual feeling/learning component really aids the learning = curve.

I found these decently = introductory:


The clips are = also on Youtube but I think they are organized = differently.


regards
BobC



= --Apple-Mail-6--496822130-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 01:25:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BE523BE7F; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A690E5E.1000505@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:29:02 -0400 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 References: <51433.69.59.203.33.1248389102.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> <20090723185208.IHJBJ.2304797.root@mp16> <66f9cc1e0907231611p39cf37d8heb736c8d4b4a9e3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907231611p39cf37d8heb736c8d4b4a9e3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > "Trying to learn Logic" is not a very good idea, because the > application isn't designed for that. It is rather designed to be a > highly configurable toolbox for producing recorded music (not even > Apples "new facade" has changed that). So the best approach is to > simply define what yo want to do and then check out how to do perform > those tasks with Logic. Exactly. When I moved from Digital Performer to Logic, I made a list of the (roughly) ten most important things I need do for my typical work flow, and figure out how to do those. I used that to get up and running, and learned additional bits as needed. I found that much less painful than sitting down for interminable sessions with a gigantic manual. Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 01:34:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39F283BE7E; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NeCn5VCW5QiaVKcUQb//A6hnEXoW17QwIORGW1PVhVY=; b=rIlD8id6K8FwnkpFg02Tk1dX3nvTpWsByqIK8Qdpo8m4H8lNfIT2wq7pU45f1NaW+G 1ipRxKhZiOaQXO3hEFHhejF3iLRHgTMizC4xv+CZ/83F2iJBQE3Gu1U3CIl75C45ST7V oH+KWmYbim7vKn9azEApVLEv9jLqN4LH8+tm0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eySi2ZEsqHSETPXGbcVD2DRJ23zdg6GJCPRDb9BVcZHUvIk9ZdBJpEPSOFFaKZL264 i++REhZMtg/d6nQJuC4GaLpwG0bgjzOoWbhvGZbdFpQJ+KAzye61SI6qDYFUH/QhkBIx SmeEO3/K8vUTIfyLuYu7NWVerazy/h/8cQ4M4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A690E5E.1000505@gmail.com> References: <51433.69.59.203.33.1248389102.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> <20090723185208.IHJBJ.2304797.root@mp16> <66f9cc1e0907231611p39cf37d8heb736c8d4b4a9e3@mail.gmail.com> <4A690E5E.1000505@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:34:45 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907231834u34dd5934x64e05013d6dfbd32@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:34:46 +0000 (UTC) > Per Boysen wrote: > >> "Trying to learn Logic" is not a very good idea, because the >> application isn't designed for that. It is rather designed to be a >> highly configurable toolbox for producing recorded music (not even >> Apples "new facade" has changed that). So the best approach is to >> simply define what yo want to do and then check out how to do perform >> those tasks with Logic. > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:29 AM, Brian Good wrote: > Exactly. When I moved from Digital Performer to Logic, I made a list of the > (roughly) ten most important things I need do for my typical work flow, and > figure out how to do those. I used that to get up and running, and learned > additional bits as needed. I found that much less painful than sitting down > for interminable sessions with a gigantic manual. > > Brian > I also made such a list when moving from Cubase/Atari to Logic 2.0 on Mac. Sometimes I wonder if I've ever really gone outside that list ;-)) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 03:10:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60B763BE7E; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:10:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=HOH6kU3vue1pO9wKHTCJQ9AFbo3jLcz/fZQtFP6mWfs=; b=hsZG66I+CJE4gEN88LIAefhzsXbVsrP6fgONqL/MU2QK0Q0Gah793C76RSm9Cstv9k bl8KGe0qQLqT3GICC385Juo3tfrSVErIeG4qPpoEoneooOzVFAt6Yu8LTQarOkGfBFO/ S6cctZ+6ngl/Aeow+JcH2yQx7AgBAJ08Mm11A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=jyotSSlTAv6s5ohwgJZBbHAVU2o8k5zG91g8XyHgcAocTZI+yv4Vx3FZvfaLJB+CMg zJZ/bHxb9kTX8bCNhVh2qtI1QSL0wLID6N+RDV/HMEImJickhPzbY7QJ9RefgDpuUcdP 5FhE+O4ME1ZuOQJeJ2CAQiKEdFOfSeImJS3JA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:10:29 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907232010x7d9ffe4cl82814222df5dcdbb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: mic for iPod Touch recommendation From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a490584e83046f6af286 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:10:31 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a490584e83046f6af286 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently inherited an 8gig iPod Touch from my son who upg'd to an iPhone and I'm discovering some great possibilities audio resource wise. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 04:48:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AA7C3BE7F; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 04:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bjHhZNluVsyW8z+L/qg0bi7yG8uwmvgHDPm3H96Qc7M=; b=Tj+to7dPSDbMvYNivtE5f8wkXUCg+0e+ytpNuWipYkOaBybY7p2kl12QMJndr/z1YW eoEoSwKHSeob+FrO2LtQydfKaMayIR077666ZZihDI+uLJupFk/BbSuIzQBvIze6wHiL B5+5CiQK0/1TpuV21hiGaO+oAvOVjEtVgfato= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MsXqOs8L0Bdhh5jTwpaOAlt09jyuQUG6UpVOPBXI3eVxBssAMUK4+cBgJbb2AefIHW xYNaysUGjmaFujrzu7WFx74uveVRLa/HERo5QVbY59v7AifdzElZ8Gvmu6886teKEivI QwzPJGo+L0s5hzogbD2WlHp6QXAvyoVx3jbX4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090723185208.IHJBJ.2304797.root@mp16> References: <51433.69.59.203.33.1248389102.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> <20090723185208.IHJBJ.2304797.root@mp16> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:48:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-Okg8D.A.rWB.G0TaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 04:48:06 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 3:52 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wr= ote: > Wish me luck. > Apology accepted. ;) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 06:18:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF88E3BE86; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090724061837450.6E0E180000AE@mwinf2a01.orange.fr Message-Id: From: doc rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:18:18 +0200 References: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:18:38 +0000 (UTC) macprovideo.com do good tutorials for logic. On Jul 23, 2009, at 10:14 PM, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > I just recently got a new MacBook Pro that's pre-loaded with Logic 8 =20= > Express. > > I have not messed with the program yet. > > I launched it and registered it. > > And then I went online to buy a book/DVD to tell me how to use it. > > Any thoughts on Logic from y'all? > > Recommendations? > > Caveats? > > Ted > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 07:22:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DCE13BE84; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:22:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:21:59 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <629E49645C45440E95E7A54D0D8DE450@portable2jpr> Message-ID: <20090724072159.59020@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <000001ca0b08$9db79ae0$020313ac@PIPO> <629E49645C45440E95E7A54D0D8DE450@portable2jpr> Subject: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18NK9ATIrENj6auhUyhxnGWTh0lf/3HLBtwrvDWlr XRSXqhoWq8NR7TiWeM0SikN1D6QfIoUafXdA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: L1ZcfntQTiE+Zdp6nGVwrA99ZUVSRFe4 X-FuHaFi: 0.59 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:22:03 +0000 (UTC) Hi Jean Philippe though I can't say for certain, I would say that the RC-50 is useable if you cannot see: First of all, what I do is to have 3-4 saved presets (i.e. one for MULTI MODE, one for SINGLE MODE, one for my special "MIXED MODE", one for "LOOP FEEDBACK"). So you can save your desired settings on several presets and use the one you need. I even occasianally use an external pedal to move to the next preset. So I don't practically needs any hands at all while looping. The controls aren't also too hard: there are a lot of (some confusing, though) on/off buttons. There are a few menus (patch/phrase/system), each have their own button where you choose one item and set a parameter. I do some frequent settings (i.e. turn Tempo Sync off on each phrase) almost by heart. So except not seeing a few LEDs in shouldn't be too hard. Hope this helps Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 07:25:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D1503BE78; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:25:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:25:17 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090724072517.59030@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19NOOcJIKVN8Av1p0a34Y39e4ThrWbl/F3K8a2YXB exea/sQ3BDv+SALjnGw3M7H6HiXJerbmJohA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 71dce3p/bUk7KJ8oyWknZPJsZ2hlN4pe X-FuHaFi: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:25:19 +0000 (UTC) really nice, Fabio :) -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 07:32:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 510E73BE7C; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:32:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:32:22 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30907210753m1934931sed33996b7417ec6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090724073222.59030@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2AC8D7DD-D1E7-49F8-AFDA-3AEA7D684AFA@charter.net> <20090721115732.297040@gmx.net> <3fa302e30907210753m1934931sed33996b7417ec6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: why we founded this list To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18LAWctne0LQXEvLdHKtDUJwp2G7+QxOsTI7LIV0Q 4urfOveY/4rVRrpsaOR4iwi2QQ9eO/kv6KLQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: slFQcjkiYW0tcc1ommdpu+98amthc9uZ X-FuHaFi: 0.78 Resent-Message-ID: <5n0vD.A.1bG.IOWaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:32:24 +0000 (UTC) > We're keepin' it mellow . . . no more violent than your usual UFC or > hockey game. Yeah, a true "no holds barred" mailing list... Buzap -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 07:44:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 848B83BE80; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:44:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:44:41 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090724074441.59030@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18DkKQkHKwDLHYc5NpvJQakTqiSKdW2zjYDjDgw1r OKn58zPRGdvNNZ6aUGW/fl4V0/TeVFLkL+GA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: OhIMOmd2ZCEEesdhnm0hZ+d4IGhpZYZI X-FuHaFi: 0.7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:44:43 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, the looper seems lame for our standards... The coolest features for me: - Multi-control in MainStage (I guess sort of like Live?) - Drum Replacer http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/whats-new/#overlay-drumreplacer That would be really cool for me to enter drum patterns via beatboxing and having them transformed into real sampled beats. Wish it would work also in real-time... Any experience concerning performance? best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 07:46:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA7083BE81; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 235178556/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.221.114/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.221.114 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AswBANMDaUpPRt1y/2dsb2JhbAAI0g6EDQWJcw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,260,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="235178556" Message-ID: <4A696A5B.40206@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:01:31 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: mic for iPod Touch recommendation References: <9e0440a60907232010x7d9ffe4cl82814222df5dcdbb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60907232010x7d9ffe4cl82814222df5dcdbb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:46:25 +0000 (UTC) hi Jim, One of those cheap mini electret condensers would be ok. (assuming it has stereo input). Those little capsules usually have really good range. I used to use one with a mini-disk recorder and got some very acceptable results (all things being relative). The omni-directional stereo pattern is not ideal, but then I'm guessing you're looking more for a "notebook" than for serious recording. I rather doubt it's worth spending more. To get a significantly better mic would likely cost as much as a Zoom H2 (which is great for acoustic guitars). andy Jim Goodin wrote: > I recently inherited an 8gig iPod Touch from my son who upg'd to an > iPhone and I'm discovering some great possibilities audio resource wise. > Has anyone recorded much on these devices and if so what are you > using/recommending for a mic source? I'm finding a range from just the > integrated Apple earphone sets to physical portable mic's. Any opinions? > > Thx > > J From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 08:04:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29D003BE84; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248422664; bh=oxSkJtOOxizQA812Fu1vraQ1AKmqmH7OstuxfyuN8rM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=aP2zxITTi/w2/dKZp80NmUOmUCQurG+fdrccsz7x4E8woS24QiTiwZt/UFdvyAE+nPwLkvAsz+YIYuTJgzRWKxJDp524WfF6q4a78gV64LWQTGReLN+zZgcLE+ec8okNaDah0BewxOT/6CHPLMRsh/RUDZVk/AoSW2uJp4znuzE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=PBBUcs5tKX0w8UOK264nI4tkXLvgqo1yScBJ8HFIrzDUH0FJ200lChBZwKysTIij2FT1LIqWZwBT+5KMknfi7pDq0JVqN59Ys9lxqLoCEpFaTMmMFPHhATqhoQXfzxOBuQC+7YQAWphdNyPivYDPipWfnqIQdRlEkG0dyKszetM=; Message-ID: <587606.98991.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:04:24 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: living without money(O.T.) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:04:26 +0000 (UTC) =0A> =0A> So what's poverty in a land where =0A> food is abundant?=A0 =0A= =0AIn Switzerland believe it or not not being able to go skying is consider= ed poor =0A=0A=0A> If food isn't abundant, =0A> where you are, why are yo= u having children? =0A=0ALOL! thats your pension,security,shelter, etc. etc= . right there and all from members of the family which are not likely to ki= ck you out if u miss a payment,what else can you hope for when u get old in= a poor country?=0A=0A=0A From kathryn@yahoo.com Fri Jul 24 09:05:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 313 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:05:10 UTC Received: from aleph.ccadet.unam.mx (aleph.ccadet.unam.mx [132.248.36.1]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC2B3BE78 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by aleph.ccadet.unam.mx (Postfix, from userid 99) id B1266124915F; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:10:11 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on aleph.ccadet.unam.mx X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.2.4 Received: from correo.ccadet.unam.mx (correo.ccadet.unam.mx [132.248.36.117]) by aleph.ccadet.unam.mx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0011248ADE; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:16:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: by correo.ccadet.unam.mx (Postfix, from userid 48) id AC9EC66E69F; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:34:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 41.217.2.8 (SquirrelMail authenticated user josue.enriquez) by correo.ccadet.unam.mx with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:34:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <53365.41.217.2.8.1248410077.squirrel@correo.ccadet.unam.mx> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:34:37 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Hello Dear. 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Having known my condition I decided to donate this fund to an individual or better still a God fearing kind person who will utilize this money the way I am going to instruct here in. I want an individual that will use this fund to provide succor to the poor and indigent persons, orphanages and shelter for the homeless. I am willing to give out £500,000.00 (Five hundred thousand pounds) from the money to the person that will help to set up his/her own business and secure a living with. I am not afraid of death hence I know where I am going as I know that I am going to be in the bosom of the Almighty. I do not need any telephone communication in this regard because of my health and because of the presence of my husband?s relatives with me here always. I do not want them to know about this development. As soon as I receive your reply I shall give you the contact of the Security/Finance House in Africa. I will also issue you a letter of authority that will empower you as the original beneficiary of this fund, through my Lawyer. I want you to always pray for me. My happiness is that I lived a life worthy of emulation and whosoever that wants to serve the Almighty God, must serve him in spirit and also in truth. Please always be prayerful all through your life. Any delay in your reply will give me room in sourcing for an individual for this same purpose. Please assure me that you will act according to my specification herein. Hoping to hear from you.Thank you and may the Almighty God bless you. FOR MORE DETAILS, REPLY TO THIS EMAIL: hills.kathryn@yahoo.com.hk Yours sincerely, Kathryn Hills. From kathryn@yahoo.com Fri Jul 24 09:05:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 326 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:05:21 UTC Received: from aleph.ccadet.unam.mx (aleph.ccadet.unam.mx [132.248.36.1]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B643BE78; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by aleph.ccadet.unam.mx (Postfix, from userid 99) id B1266124915F; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:10:11 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on aleph.ccadet.unam.mx X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.2.4 Received: from correo.ccadet.unam.mx (correo.ccadet.unam.mx [132.248.36.117]) by aleph.ccadet.unam.mx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0011248ADE; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:16:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: by correo.ccadet.unam.mx (Postfix, from userid 48) id AC9EC66E69F; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:34:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 41.217.2.8 (SquirrelMail authenticated user josue.enriquez) by correo.ccadet.unam.mx with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:34:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <53365.41.217.2.8.1248410077.squirrel@correo.ccadet.unam.mx> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:34:37 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Hello Dear. From: "Mrs.Kathryn Hills" Reply-To: hills.kathryn@yahoo.com.hk User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-4.0.1.el5.centos.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; From: Mrs. Kathryn Hills. 24 A Queens Pde, Friern Barnet Rd, London. I am the above named person but now undergoing medical treatment in Israel. I am married to Dr. Philip Hills, who worked with British Railway Commission in Chelsea England, for over a decade before he died on 30th July 2007. We were married for fifteen years without a child. He died after a brief illness that lasted for two weeks. Before his death he made a vow to use his wealth for the down trodden and the less privileged in the society. Since his death I decided not to re-marry or get a child outside my matrimonial home. I have willed and given some of my belonging to immediate and extended family members, as well as a few close friends. I have decided to support charity work; this is what I want to be remembered for. So far, I have been able to reach out to a few charity organizations in the Singapore, Algeria and Malaysia. Now that my health has deteriorated so badly, I cannot do this myself anymore. I once asked members of my family to aid me in giving of alms to those organizations catering for the less Privileged in Bulgaria and Pakistan; they refused and kept the resources to themselves. Hence, I do not trust them anymore, as they seem not to be contempt with what I have left for them. When my late husband was alive and working, he deposited the sum of £7000, 000.00 (Seven Million pounds) in a Vault with a security/Finance House in Europe.Presently,this money is still there. Recently, my Doctor told me that I would not last for the next 30days due to cancer problem. Though what disturbs me most is my cancer. Having known my condition I decided to donate this fund to an individual or better still a God fearing kind person who will utilize this money the way I am going to instruct here in. I want an individual that will use this fund to provide succor to the poor and indigent persons, orphanages and shelter for the homeless. I am willing to give out £500,000.00 (Five hundred thousand pounds) from the money to the person that will help to set up his/her own business and secure a living with. I am not afraid of death hence I know where I am going as I know that I am going to be in the bosom of the Almighty. I do not need any telephone communication in this regard because of my health and because of the presence of my husband?s relatives with me here always. I do not want them to know about this development. As soon as I receive your reply I shall give you the contact of the Security/Finance House in Africa. I will also issue you a letter of authority that will empower you as the original beneficiary of this fund, through my Lawyer. I want you to always pray for me. My happiness is that I lived a life worthy of emulation and whosoever that wants to serve the Almighty God, must serve him in spirit and also in truth. Please always be prayerful all through your life. Any delay in your reply will give me room in sourcing for an individual for this same purpose. Please assure me that you will act according to my specification herein. Hoping to hear from you.Thank you and may the Almighty God bless you. FOR MORE DETAILS, REPLY TO THIS EMAIL: hills.kathryn@yahoo.com.hk Yours sincerely, Kathryn Hills. From kathryn@yahoo.com Fri Jul 24 09:18:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from aleph.ccadet.unam.mx (aleph.ccadet.unam.mx [132.248.36.1]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0328E3BE78 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:18:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by aleph.ccadet.unam.mx (Postfix, from userid 99) id 1AB3B1248E49; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:47:10 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on aleph.ccadet.unam.mx X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.2.4 Received: from correo.ccadet.unam.mx (correo.ccadet.unam.mx [132.248.36.117]) by aleph.ccadet.unam.mx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D34C1248AE2; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:16:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: by correo.ccadet.unam.mx (Postfix, from userid 48) id 38F3266E69F; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:34:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 41.217.2.8 (SquirrelMail authenticated user josue.enriquez) by correo.ccadet.unam.mx with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:34:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <53366.41.217.2.8.1248410079.squirrel@correo.ccadet.unam.mx> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:34:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Hello Dear. From: "Mrs.Kathryn Hills" Reply-To: hills.kathryn@yahoo.com.hk User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-4.0.1.el5.centos.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; From: Mrs. Kathryn Hills. 24 A Queens Pde, Friern Barnet Rd, London. I am the above named person but now undergoing medical treatment in Israel. I am married to Dr. Philip Hills, who worked with British Railway Commission in Chelsea England, for over a decade before he died on 30th July 2007. We were married for fifteen years without a child. He died after a brief illness that lasted for two weeks. Before his death he made a vow to use his wealth for the down trodden and the less privileged in the society. Since his death I decided not to re-marry or get a child outside my matrimonial home. I have willed and given some of my belonging to immediate and extended family members, as well as a few close friends. I have decided to support charity work; this is what I want to be remembered for. So far, I have been able to reach out to a few charity organizations in the Singapore, Algeria and Malaysia. Now that my health has deteriorated so badly, I cannot do this myself anymore. I once asked members of my family to aid me in giving of alms to those organizations catering for the less Privileged in Bulgaria and Pakistan; they refused and kept the resources to themselves. Hence, I do not trust them anymore, as they seem not to be contempt with what I have left for them. When my late husband was alive and working, he deposited the sum of £7000, 000.00 (Seven Million pounds) in a Vault with a security/Finance House in Europe.Presently,this money is still there. Recently, my Doctor told me that I would not last for the next 30days due to cancer problem. Though what disturbs me most is my cancer. Having known my condition I decided to donate this fund to an individual or better still a God fearing kind person who will utilize this money the way I am going to instruct here in. I want an individual that will use this fund to provide succor to the poor and indigent persons, orphanages and shelter for the homeless. I am willing to give out £500,000.00 (Five hundred thousand pounds) from the money to the person that will help to set up his/her own business and secure a living with. I am not afraid of death hence I know where I am going as I know that I am going to be in the bosom of the Almighty. I do not need any telephone communication in this regard because of my health and because of the presence of my husband?s relatives with me here always. I do not want them to know about this development. As soon as I receive your reply I shall give you the contact of the Security/Finance House in Africa. I will also issue you a letter of authority that will empower you as the original beneficiary of this fund, through my Lawyer. I want you to always pray for me. My happiness is that I lived a life worthy of emulation and whosoever that wants to serve the Almighty God, must serve him in spirit and also in truth. Please always be prayerful all through your life. Any delay in your reply will give me room in sourcing for an individual for this same purpose. Please assure me that you will act according to my specification herein. Hoping to hear from you.Thank you and may the Almighty God bless you. FOR MORE DETAILS, REPLY TO THIS EMAIL: hills.kathryn@yahoo.com.hk Yours sincerely, Kathryn Hills. From kathryn@yahoo.com Fri Jul 24 09:18:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from aleph.ccadet.unam.mx (aleph.ccadet.unam.mx [132.248.36.1]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0315F3BE78; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:18:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by aleph.ccadet.unam.mx (Postfix, from userid 99) id 1AB3B1248E49; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:47:10 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on aleph.ccadet.unam.mx X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.2.4 Received: from correo.ccadet.unam.mx (correo.ccadet.unam.mx [132.248.36.117]) by aleph.ccadet.unam.mx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D34C1248AE2; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:16:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: by correo.ccadet.unam.mx (Postfix, from userid 48) id 38F3266E69F; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:34:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 41.217.2.8 (SquirrelMail authenticated user josue.enriquez) by correo.ccadet.unam.mx with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:34:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <53366.41.217.2.8.1248410079.squirrel@correo.ccadet.unam.mx> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:34:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Hello Dear. From: "Mrs.Kathryn Hills" Reply-To: hills.kathryn@yahoo.com.hk User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-4.0.1.el5.centos.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; From: Mrs. Kathryn Hills. 24 A Queens Pde, Friern Barnet Rd, London. I am the above named person but now undergoing medical treatment in Israel. I am married to Dr. Philip Hills, who worked with British Railway Commission in Chelsea England, for over a decade before he died on 30th July 2007. We were married for fifteen years without a child. He died after a brief illness that lasted for two weeks. Before his death he made a vow to use his wealth for the down trodden and the less privileged in the society. Since his death I decided not to re-marry or get a child outside my matrimonial home. I have willed and given some of my belonging to immediate and extended family members, as well as a few close friends. I have decided to support charity work; this is what I want to be remembered for. So far, I have been able to reach out to a few charity organizations in the Singapore, Algeria and Malaysia. Now that my health has deteriorated so badly, I cannot do this myself anymore. I once asked members of my family to aid me in giving of alms to those organizations catering for the less Privileged in Bulgaria and Pakistan; they refused and kept the resources to themselves. Hence, I do not trust them anymore, as they seem not to be contempt with what I have left for them. When my late husband was alive and working, he deposited the sum of £7000, 000.00 (Seven Million pounds) in a Vault with a security/Finance House in Europe.Presently,this money is still there. Recently, my Doctor told me that I would not last for the next 30days due to cancer problem. Though what disturbs me most is my cancer. Having known my condition I decided to donate this fund to an individual or better still a God fearing kind person who will utilize this money the way I am going to instruct here in. I want an individual that will use this fund to provide succor to the poor and indigent persons, orphanages and shelter for the homeless. I am willing to give out £500,000.00 (Five hundred thousand pounds) from the money to the person that will help to set up his/her own business and secure a living with. I am not afraid of death hence I know where I am going as I know that I am going to be in the bosom of the Almighty. I do not need any telephone communication in this regard because of my health and because of the presence of my husband?s relatives with me here always. I do not want them to know about this development. As soon as I receive your reply I shall give you the contact of the Security/Finance House in Africa. I will also issue you a letter of authority that will empower you as the original beneficiary of this fund, through my Lawyer. I want you to always pray for me. My happiness is that I lived a life worthy of emulation and whosoever that wants to serve the Almighty God, must serve him in spirit and also in truth. Please always be prayerful all through your life. Any delay in your reply will give me room in sourcing for an individual for this same purpose. Please assure me that you will act according to my specification herein. Hoping to hear from you.Thank you and may the Almighty God bless you. FOR MORE DETAILS, REPLY TO THIS EMAIL: hills.kathryn@yahoo.com.hk Yours sincerely, Kathryn Hills. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 10:58:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 321C73BE81; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1248433105; bh=dFISZIuaugWuS2yGMdcZMnSzHYJhEfa6Cu+yN1Z87kA=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=obnHsTAtZIlloIGp+MUfXlCX8l2eqwq2I4HxENvP1w78WbR8IuexpL9FY9SYmYRo8 JUWNLH0w4bl9EUJtI6qHUvCTMvX7iW0JzG4/Yg2hHp65OQmCeUTsFOODUzl2+uw+dA IBfDT4zhPjI5ZAdXj/cNr40qH1YsOiapyuSSJZ7w= Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:58:24 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: What are the current probs w/RC-50?NEW ONE? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <8vD-2.A.9tE.SPZaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:58:27 +0000 (UTC) > I'm unable to check the above, I only had the RC-50 for a day or so on = loan. Hi Andy, Me too, I sold mine ;) But I remember it worked much better with OS 1.0.1= and the instructions documented on my site. > ps. for legibility of text, advise that you > don't use high contrast graphics as a backing Good point, will change that with the next update --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 12:48:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 087963BE84; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:48:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A69AD9E.6030401@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 05:48:30 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: online real time looping sequencer game Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <46-IND.A.NK.n2aaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:48:39 +0000 (UTC) Wow, this is fun!!!!! http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#9r8XKj/lab.andre-michelle.com/tonematrix/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 12:54:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAAE53BE84; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=1x2rKMTx5gaXqXvApbO8xB8kaDruWg05xLd/jAV/m8Q=; b=fp+TIkvjgPskesPSkKho+2I/j+39fIqC8NbInXzkl+q94u0SyQ71y5phDNCQZX2cL4 JsKXtETVoF6FSpI2WBcGs+nr0wdrMDYAufsqY3451PSGPEqczT38ywS94BAs8L2Phb6t jUrfrSoVtgDh9Bxra9gy+FVaCdU0+89ws9Fws= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=rHzFb1KTXAmynHTajxXBRKkBBQMuVdVz+BPjWCI6M1f8S6QM+HsoaKpL+V6FCVkXyJ wxmh8SVwbzfRans3fWNdeQ3MR7YwDly/mrccFJfEgJ86lUH9cfXSsq3SrqR/27tRFRDL 9xwnRyAn7YAPdTWAG6v3kwM0GNjDzI4S0HWw4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:54:54 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907240554o50225a26gabae1a3da82d5140@mail.gmail.com> Subject: New USB powered MIDI foot controller for Mac From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517511af05ea9ff046f731ce9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:54:55 +0000 (UTC) --001517511af05ea9ff046f731ce9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just read about this new USB powered MIDI foot controller for Mac: http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/gio.php It seems Apogee has developed it especially for Mainstage 2, Logic Pro 9 and Garageband 09. I have not tested a unit yet, but I like its simple design in functionality. It's designed for laptop guitarists with an instrument level guitar line in port and built-in A/D converter for that. It drives a headphones output, but you still need another audio interface for the main PA output. You may connect an analog expression pedal. In OS X the pedal board plus expression pedal is detected as just another MIDI In port plus another Audio In port. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --001517511af05ea9ff046f731ce9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just read about this new USB powered MIDI foot controller for Mac:=C2= =A0

It = seems Apogee has developed it especially for Mainstage 2, Logic Pro 9 and G= arageband 09.

I have not tested a unit yet, but I like its simple des= ign in functionality. It's designed for laptop guitarists with an instr= ument level guitar line in port and built-in A/D converter for that. It dri= ves a headphones output, but you still need another audio interface for the= main PA output. You may connect an analog expression pedal. In OS X the pe= dal board plus expression pedal is detected as just another MIDI In port pl= us another Audio In port.=C2=A0

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
--001517511af05ea9ff046f731ce9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 13:05:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 059DF3BE82; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XlHKjfJuXtjmxIW57J0uppVWpVEBYin4q6kKPUt2AHw=; b=xChBTolPftZAzK+Q3e658vJZhnqoFqU/AmUPCEx1/m1yULB8HLcc+/vPZO/KxFfhMp KTw93ip/V8S44ZA/HdN/YHwJjw4YkkrdcYUByI/Rz03bwl5kSaXT2Vl/S4Dfa8K9v973 cnjtH59l6ee0iL8azBp9P4o9IA5Dbi4DCr1sg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JD7m4XKV2wP+cxd4yUc96RBgQggx1y/ZiDKLXKwDhEhX/yTzl399q1w157gSd/vR4v l28lH4CD9PQ+U04iBD+7rmWOfvgYXhpzaxlqUJsdwz8A3C9FHqBsdCJRAihUU+XIRTNL 42tMALdOZwNgr62sVyuVPO/A9BlDXIkqxB0AA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907240554o50225a26gabae1a3da82d5140@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907240554o50225a26gabae1a3da82d5140@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:05:31 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New USB powered MIDI foot controller for Mac From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6qx2N.A.K1.eGbaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:05:34 +0000 (UTC) ... at this price point, although a different device, i'd go for one of the xavier's childs. USB scares me... but maybe apogee/mac combo uses to work rock solid, ... 2009/7/24, Per Boysen : > Just read about this new USB powered MIDI foot controller for Mac: > http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/gio.php > > It seems Apogee has developed it especially for Mainstage 2, Logic Pro 9 and > Garageband 09. > > I have not tested a unit yet, but I like its simple design in functionality. > It's designed for laptop guitarists with an instrument level guitar line in > port and built-in A/D converter for that. It drives a headphones output, but > you still need another audio interface for the main PA output. You may > connect an analog expression pedal. In OS X the pedal board plus expression > pedal is detected as just another MIDI In port plus another Audio In port. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 13:24:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 059F23BE82; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=R58GhDvWFisdiwJnBJYRu4pNHY9/+1wmaVS3IO90jqs=; b=eUF2GPQcHeskM68tam5J+3U+nm49nCdflZ4SfZQFAxsQ8Tk6YRyF/P8AZL5TsEJZQU AK/+e21iDM0xohdXt1OhHQmPA9IRA2XtCGnvx2D5RUUZZ2FclJD9MxtBmcD89Fj2FtTZ vqXZCKBpdp11kJlo3CindI+c808eSE/p4MAig= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ajX7bLj3lBDIn6eEVEVj4LF7GubD1AVJLjpItAG2gzbAnHNIak0yUDszusn5/oQ5aS NHA/9HsSYeRbxVl3phqC0Ii5j5H+c7o2l+FGiayF/kCns2V22Gix2FgRknvNSm3hxvHg d7JB3RxqyliK6MhGG+d0ESRFUbpH+kMjIhCTo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0907240554o50225a26gabae1a3da82d5140@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:16:29 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907240616x47c23e14jc225ebd273e6c3fb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New USB powered MIDI foot controller for Mac From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750dd3885dbbe046f736991 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:24:45 +0000 (UTC) --00151750dd3885dbbe046f736991 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wight is an important factor if you fly with the gear, but unfortunately Apogee doesn't give out the weight on the web site. But the size is well within the cabin bag size norm. I like the USB power option, since I already have too many gadgets that needs fresh batteries or to remember to bring an extra power adapter. My only concern is that it is too restricted for playing keybords by feet, as I do to create chord/key changes in livelooping. So for me this pedal needs to go together with another one, like the Behringer or the Gordious. Here's one idea I have how to make the Apogee "better" for livelooping: Cut off the expr pedals from an FCB 1010 and use only the kick pads together with this Apogee. You may use an analog expr pedel or simply connect that voltage through to a knob on your guitar. That can easily be done with a stereo cable. This means you can put away the laptop on stage, somewhere way back safe, and put the pedal board up front at stage where you also plug in the guitar. per On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > ... at this price point, although a different device, i'd go for one > of the xavier's childs. USB scares me... but maybe apogee/mac combo > uses to work rock solid, ... > > 2009/7/24, Per Boysen : > > Just read about this new USB powered MIDI foot controller for Mac: > > http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/gio.php > > > > It seems Apogee has developed it especially for Mainstage 2, Logic Pro 9 > and > > Garageband 09. > > > > I have not tested a unit yet, but I like its simple design in > functionality. > > It's designed for laptop guitarists with an instrument level guitar line > in > > port and built-in A/D converter for that. It drives a headphones output, > but > > you still need another audio interface for the main PA output. You may > > connect an analog expression pedal. In OS X the pedal board plus > expression > > pedal is detected as just another MIDI In port plus another Audio In > port. > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se > > www.perboysen.com > > > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > --00151750dd3885dbbe046f736991 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wight is an important factor if you fly with the gear, but unfortunately Ap= ogee doesn't give out the weight on the web site. But the size is well = within the cabin bag size norm. I like the USB power option, since I alread= y have too many gadgets that needs fresh batteries or to remember to bring = an extra power adapter. My only concern is that it is too restricted for pl= aying keybords by feet, as I do to create chord/key changes in livelooping.= So for me this pedal needs to go together with another one, like the Behri= nger or the Gordious.=C2=A0

Here's one idea I have how to make the Apogee "bett= er" for livelooping: Cut off the expr pedals from an FCB 1010 and use = only the kick pads together with this Apogee. You may use an analog expr pe= del or simply connect that voltage through to a knob on your guitar. That c= an =C2=A0easily be done with a stereo cable. This means you can put away th= e laptop on stage, somewhere way back safe, and put the pedal board up fron= t at stage where you also plug in the guitar.=C2=A0

per


On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Raul Bo= nell <raul.bo= nell@gmail.com> wrote:
... at this price point, although a different device, i'd go for one of the xavier's childs. USB scares me... but maybe apogee/mac combo
uses to work rock solid, ...

2009/7/24, Per Boysen <perboysen@= gmail.com>:
> Just read about this new USB powered= MIDI foot controller for Mac:
> http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/gio.php
>
> It seems Apogee has developed it especially for Mainstage 2, Logic Pro= 9 and
> Garageband 09.
>
> I have not tested a unit yet, but I like its simple design in function= ality.
> It's designed for laptop guitarists with an instrument level guita= r line in
> port and built-in A/D converter for that. It drives a headphones outpu= t, but
> you still need another audio interface for the main PA output. You may=
> connect an analog expression pedal. In OS X the pedal board plus expre= ssion
> pedal is detected as just another MIDI In port plus another Audio In p= ort.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.c= om
>


--
Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com


--00151750dd3885dbbe046f736991-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 13:27:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 905F83BE85; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A69B72E.6010901@het.it> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:29:18 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New USB powered MIDI foot controller for Mac References: <66f9cc1e0907240554o50225a26gabae1a3da82d5140@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907240554o50225a26gabae1a3da82d5140@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------090606060809060106040606" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090106-1, 06/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:27:05 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090606060809060106040606 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It should be very interesting for me!
What do you mean Per that you still need another audio interface for the main PA? it seems to have outputs:

"Output: Headphones, monitors or instrument amplifier"

what do you think about connecting it together an FCB1010 controlling loops?
i mean: this could control effetcts (guitar rig etc) and FCB looper (moebius etc)
and Live like host?

Per Boysen ha scritto:
Just read about this new USB powered MIDI foot controller for Mac: 

It seems Apogee has developed it especially for Mainstage 2, Logic Pro 9 and Garageband 09.

I have not tested a unit yet, but I like its simple design in functionality. It's designed for laptop guitarists with an instrument level guitar line in port and built-in A/D converter for that. It drives a headphones output, but you still need another audio interface for the main PA output. You may connect an analog expression pedal. In OS X the pedal board plus expression pedal is detected as just another MIDI In port plus another Audio In port. 

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


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luq8b6zZL//pf/v6v//83//+//8A8U/gQIIFDR5EmFDhQoYJAwIAOw== --------------090606060809060106040606-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 13:30:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1B913BE85; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:30:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1248442225; bh=UKf1HbDTnlQEoNZ2MFfa2exAo2Fj94rGDg6YlqCALeM=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=rsI22mYRyd29gJSrVIqRhG58+F7AL3HkPkTBl4Ep8H/ddJg3IDF1lNoNKnytn+piw /gBRuSmVm/FSRD2l9hOTU2dTfSnt42rRg0P9T2JLcX33+Pxt2QBSRrUPublKBKrUmA o6NN23YHYclqFboItzwzQUNkbWkbIyKtBcUMhhzw= Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:30:24 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <70G5tB.A.JoB.ydbaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:30:26 +0000 (UTC) Does anybody know if the last beta version was stable or should I wait a = bit? 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 13:38:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A17F3BE84; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A69B9EF.7050009@het.it> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:41:03 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: online real time looping sequencer game References: <4A69AD9E.6030401@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4A69AD9E.6030401@cruzio.com> Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------070600030002010205070203" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090106-1, 06/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:38:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070600030002010205070203 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yess!!! and have you also aldready tested this other?:

http://www.hobnox.com/index.1056.en.html

it's real amazing!


Rick Walker ha scritto:
Wow,   this is fun!!!!!

http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#9r8XKj/lab.andre-michelle.com/tonematrix/





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c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=B0Fj0bnG0gvPGX+IMz/vMjbgoGe+U8WpGha3pINYuaPAfNapkxo52cEEWfqGhMBMeE XOizZjm5yYUyLQHyi5TPxrtYrH//C/RJNmIp7Kj8kgQaBt7zzW08jZPBCYOvmB6Szj/x SvDNJr46JOou/aAsKovuEIAiwIi5h6Q3RyMa8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:46:05 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907240646p31938453qce9d4eebeca68413@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_4BJ1.A.9TC.dsbaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:46:05 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Sjaak wrote: > Does anybody know if the last beta version was stable or should I wait a bit? Btw: what's the price in Euro's for an upgrade from Logic 8 Studio? No, but I can assure you that not even Apple would sell a beta version. Software are constantly being bug corrected and such minor upgrades usually offered users for free. Google "Applestore" and you will find the answer to your pricing question. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 13:52:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 989C43BEA0; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=acZ1nKcgqsv1gw83NccFyvo6ALaU8QpIfi8HJIKZG0G5XgZgIqIIhA1KFmbdbhu6; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907240646p31938453qce9d4eebeca68413@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907240646p31938453qce9d4eebeca68413@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:51:04 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79ef5a6472ab55e18941326f6312a9ca67350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:52:41 +0000 (UTC) However, when Apple took over emagic and rebranded Logic they offered the entire package at a very low price ($499) and then released no updates or bug fixes (except for the 8.0.2 which fixed some catastrophic errors). Now they have announced Logic 9... logic 8 is still broken... The question is: Do you rely on Logic to earn your living? Would you risk that on speculating that it will work perfectly from version 9.0? >On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Sjaak wrote: >> Does anybody know if the last beta version was stable or should I >>wait a bit? Btw: what's the price in Euro's for an upgrade from >>Logic 8 Studio? > > >No, but I can assure you that not even Apple would sell a beta >version. Software are constantly being bug corrected and such minor >upgrades usually offered users for free. Google "Applestore" and you >will find the answer to your pricing question. > >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.boysen.se >www.perboysen.com -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 13:53:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65A943BE92; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:53:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=f9z83gCrNXGAxomLIIUO5L9EK/KTm8CHlRZDOqvEe+s=; b=nxQy62AbqZolf+2y+za56g8cMWmpnoy5YTRUAux/bigEcDiqwTqafpNIBlHdewB888 Bere5Fckv28Ms/9PbUk+m8BVtwQOxbVhKj7vqudyWk2KIk+sV4BVu+aFrZa+TE17+ib0 +ePO6f9GB4Rpg5HQxW2ItNfXmOxKGRV+CQ42k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=A+DguziRkbAUvXqdMHSsI2pWYilrKsfKuPJkWQCsGXU4KPrlGsiqn5MXHp52QwtuKW iJL9GB78smqyVH6/vs29VBjlUsiMADcA2tA6Jf8N5m6/DFPVLfmC7ixroiW6DlXQq9mX MwetHCl3Pq9y1Vl0BtVrI0EY82dVDNmrd+OpI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907240652x709a574ft58223bd7d50512b8@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907240554o50225a26gabae1a3da82d5140@mail.gmail.com> <4A69B72E.6010901@het.it> <66f9cc1e0907240652x709a574ft58223bd7d50512b8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:53:10 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907240653j64a19b0brd5be0ff19e4031c9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New USB powered MIDI foot controller for Mac From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:53:11 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Massimo Liverani wrote: > What do you mean Per that you still need another audio interface for the > main PA? it seems to have outputs: > > "Output: Headphones, monitors or instrument amplifier" A headphones level output wouldn't sound very good in a PA. And Apogee doesn't either specify if that headphones output only mirrors the dry guitar input or if it actually D/A converts audio from the software to put out. Keep in mind that this is a gadget targeted at the consuming masses! You have to research any aspect of its functionality to work out how useful it really is for you. The fact that not all relevant information is displayed in the online product presentation confirms this. I'm just saying that it looks interesting on first sight ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 14:10:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 961D43BE84; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:10:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1248444651; bh=6DIYnsff7fs3MxMuK8S+n8ffW+8XFqpcDaJJu2wc1Oc=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=0wc/HSveqNmJsXgTiXXUNkiM5d5zFYaKl1aEla9JzMpcbcVf8FphTuZ+WvTe4IUHq DunkSIdhIYcof0XA+jFkY/rILPxOO7mLLLX6Au0FIMbcdrt4Ccfx9cYawhxUji5fbN igIcj6fAyOw5/ZKTz42TCaMx6EaQngN6hqoe+4tM= Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:10:51 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <4F04z.A.xdD.tDcaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:10:53 +0000 (UTC) > Google "Applestore" and you > will find the answer to your pricing question. I checked the store yesterday and the price wasn't there yet. Now it is: = 199,00 Euro for an upgrade of Logic Pro or Logic Studio. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 14:41:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9ADFF3BE84; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1248446507; bh=UCZzOuTPJe1fwKBbgGv/Qqj4/bNBvqN7cjp9uJ4vtqE=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=DS6WpXJtS7aFu1VUol29bAa/yeNY6+0L1XqCkd+IXASnjx16oXBFl5ue8kOdoSNHu xP4uNevE6zTjx1Czb4lWlD5TPXwXHLnjeHMCWQ3GiqpKhW4O5IY1kKOl2iB9FD9BUC Qoj1qQ7ku/VDe/2E0Y/gCP4Us9I3cMUtdXwEiBc4= Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:41:46 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:41:48 +0000 (UTC) > The question is: Do you rely on Logic to earn your living? Would you > risk that on speculating that it will work perfectly from version 9.0? > Now they have announced Logic 9... logic 8 is still broken... Hi Charles, I don't rely on Logic for a living. I use Mainstage as my host on stage a= nd I use a little bit of Logic at home. Sure, Logic 8 had a few problems = but for me nothing major and as long as I have a workaround, I'm fine. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g. 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I use Mainstage as my host on stage a= nd I use a little bit of Logic at home. Sure, Logic 8 had a few problems bu= t for me nothing major and as long as I have a workaround, I'm fine. I sometimes rely on Logic for a living, but not all the time since I'm a freelance worker in many areas related to music. When I'm on a pro base production deadline that is short I simply don't use certain functions that are known as less stable. That totally does the trick for me, since working efficiency is all about balancing available project time against choice of tools and methods. In my situation that was possible to do even with Logic 8 and this new version will save me lots of working hours to begin with... 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 16:43:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 158EF3BE7E; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Bjw6pIVKDL1cDl6sWMcWnSTgwHxw/fYJe1w3PBGiGvo50FOOtC9f7UaGUGOeEriv; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907240801g30a548c0x91d01c1e2526f01b@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907240801g30a548c0x91d01c1e2526f01b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:35:06 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79656c3b8f16ae0a6a3a3e9ce666f1141a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:43:22 +0000 (UTC) I think that Logic 9 sounds like it will be quite useful, provided it does what it says it does! >On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Sjaak wrote: >>> The question is: Do you rely on Logic to earn your living? Would you >>> risk that on speculating that it will work perfectly from version 9.0? >>> Now they have announced Logic 9... logic 8 is still broken... >> >> Hi Charles, >> I don't rely on Logic for a living. I use Mainstage as my host on >>stage and I use a little bit of Logic at home. Sure, Logic 8 had a >>few problems but for me nothing major and as long as I have a >>workaround, I'm fine. > > >I sometimes rely on Logic for a living, but not all the time since I'm >a freelance worker in many areas related to music. When I'm on a pro >base production deadline that is short I simply don't use certain >functions that are known as less stable. That totally does the trick >for me, since working efficiency is all about balancing available >project time against choice of tools and methods. In my situation that >was possible to do even with Logic 8 and this new version will save me >lots of working hours to begin with... > >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.boysen.se >www.perboysen.com -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 17:11:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DC9B3BE85; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:11:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=F8whilB++GDQ8dPK9eNZzHNFUJ3HgTIcq0+gPIgBE5U=; b=SbQuHfIsnWdafMuziOTrfl0owBSHa705I32wT70xTXh6/QGiahtwrLzC3DaKYMiaM+ 6pAwMsiM0Bnc/ns8b8nDijbSf+xvVSls7c251bZP5nmoYGdRYupILKqAiS/tJnIjplIs ttlAGm8MYEk26V85i8wSmA+OsOCqIHROp0mio= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=T+sL2VvvfaQpDsDL/0eBKmwwzg1C1lwjRVTNTOPntOABesC+LbYHX7lF3v6u73Af6t 3jGXwRxgRXKJ8XIXgGcTLRwF/z1MJud80mIWs7nLx8J2hTMS2D4ZOOmvJE/7Vd8ed+rf LNJ9uR13csOJsR00pukSfnbMknHVbLZ5/e+Mc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0907240801g30a548c0x91d01c1e2526f01b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:11:41 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907241011i4c9e0e6fq69b79d1e07c803c1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:11:43 +0000 (UTC) Just had a close encounter with Logic 9... Downloaded the PDF manual and while reading it lying on the coach I fell a sleep and dreamed that I was working out, doing push-ups on my finger tips. At the very first push-up I was brutally brought back awake by a loud *BURP!* sound. That was my finger tips on the tracking pad and the thumb pushing just a bit too hard where there is no menu... Funny! :-)) This old G4 Powerbook has quite loud built-in speakers. Per On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Charles Zwicky wro= te: > I think that Logic 9 sounds like it will be quite useful, provided it doe= s > what it says it does! > > >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Sjaak wrote: >>>> >>>> =C2=A0The question is: Do you rely on Logic to earn your living? =C2= =A0Would you >>>> =C2=A0risk that on speculating that it will work perfectly from versio= n 9.0? >>>> =C2=A0Now they have announced Logic 9... logic 8 is still broken... >>> >>> =C2=A0Hi Charles, >>> =C2=A0I don't rely on Logic for a living. I use Mainstage as my host on= stage >>> and I use a little bit of Logic at home. Sure, Logic 8 had a few proble= ms >>> but for me nothing major and as long as I have a workaround, I'm fine. >> >> >> I sometimes rely on Logic for a living, but not all the time since I'm >> a freelance worker in many areas related to music. When I'm on a pro >> base production deadline that is short I simply don't use certain >> functions that are known as less stable. That totally does the trick >> for me, since working efficiency is all about balancing available >> project time against choice of tools and methods. In my situation that >> was possible to do even with Logic 8 and this new version will save me >> lots of working hours to begin with... >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com > > > -- > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 17:42:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA6C03BE7E; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=doKCjiYDSKRRjHWQa4RWx1eEH2ufyM/OqAM/+iGhgPc=; b=vlK8RWMKRo8mFXSmA241IVjFJxXM8b5mH8DSGw0FKrb2GyGVHkLG9Z6ZMWAx8wSGIi TpK331wEWRb3kjn0+C2yqrmnN6PfU35zXX4MfLgzzlAuOgI8HH8VZ4rzQE9vhowHoKNF 0Qdjr3iH745BqzfNOHL270LknoPELosYjAhjM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=v35LInqwnwal+pzFeZx3wQQAPrXTAfgA8Ih/y9l2lIP7DTnoLx3k6WjU0n1m+JMumV AJo4BqBrQAK0jhrsJG48r9pQeaI/Kbv23efNcP6NStHvQkNl5EGVAZHTSJ2FvJHFApPn lQfg23RFRHiTd/6HvhLhaY2/RHxn8Zez+N8hM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907240653j64a19b0brd5be0ff19e4031c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907240554o50225a26gabae1a3da82d5140@mail.gmail.com> <4A69B72E.6010901@het.it> <66f9cc1e0907240652x709a574ft58223bd7d50512b8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907240653j64a19b0brd5be0ff19e4031c9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:42:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New USB powered MIDI foot controller for Mac From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Interesting device, looks like competition to the IK Multimedia Stomp I/O, but a LOT more affordable. I still can't figure out why IK thinks they can get away with charging so much for their controller. It kind of makes sense if you don't have the Amplitube software and want it, but for guys like me who have it it's way too expensive. I did get the IK Multimedia Stealthpedal though, and that might work out well. You can connect two switches to it as well as an expression pedal. That in combo with an FCB1010 and I'm more or less set, but I'd really love it if i could get a control only version of the Stomp. M On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Massimo Liverani wrote: >> What do you mean Per that you still need another audio interface for the >> main PA? it seems to have outputs: >> >> "Output: Headphones, monitors or instrument amplifier" > > A headphones level output wouldn't sound very good in a PA. And Apogee > doesn't either specify if that headphones output only mirrors the dry > guitar input or if it actually D/A converts audio from the software to > put out. > > Keep in mind that this is a gadget targeted at the consuming masses! > You have to research any aspect of its functionality to work out how > useful it really is for you. The fact that not all relevant > information is displayed in the online product presentation confirms > this. I'm just saying that it looks interesting on first sight ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 18:09:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 627C63BE7F; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:09:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=sA1Fh/f2bhCZsJA2W1fZvGRp1eg++LkSB3onC2tc6A4qQ4pjKw59x88CyEcKF8Hv; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <1720162.1248458978867.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:09:38 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: online real time looping sequencer game Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd488439fe6c05c72bff2c5d62dd99d14bd23ae9702e2e88ebc7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.45 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:09:39 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rick- ben there dun that: http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200904/msg00251.html >Wow, this is fun!!!!! >http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#9r8XKj/lab.andre-michelle.com/tonematrix/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 18:36:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E01E13BE86; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:36:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1126 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:36:55 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=r1868t32gzZ0aD4G2Gh2+pCixSToXupljrXXRsCBElZPiYmpnDiMpICoWek4rk/0; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <00ca01ca0c8a$e9d2b1c0$6601a8c0@ECCO> From: "JC" To: References: Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:16:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C7_01CA0C50.395D4010" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-ELNK-Trace: 250e53821a8c36f54d2b10475b5711202d55e7a2ce3a2cc019e692790b893248d11185f5db0e0c72350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.181.231.116 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:36:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01CA0C50.395D4010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Fabio I listened to your mp3. Beautiful stuff! I like it! :-) JC Mendizabal Black Note Music http://www.blacknotemusic.com Via Sinistrae www.viasinistrae.com http://sinistrae.libsyn.com/ Other Sites http://www.allhaildiscordia.com/ http://maddogmagick.blogspot.com/ http://secretsareeverywhere.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Fabio_A=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:08 AM Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on your = iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) Rick, we're on the same way ! - Nik Bartsch's RONIN resides in my car player from 3 weeks, and I = haven't get enought yet ! You had the fortune to meet him in person, but I well remember the = exact moment when Bernhard played that music in his i-pod trough my PA = system kitcken ;-) I've immediately bought on line two of his album and - being a Reich = fan - I've so deeply fallen in love with Nik Bartsch's music that in = these days I'm practicing just on stuff like this. Here's a recording I made with Mobius a few nights ago, with different = time signatures: - drums and percussions (are not pre-recorded loops: i've played them = on my keyboard) play in 4/4 - bass part (later doubled with piano) plays in 5/4; - piano arpeggios play in 5/4 - ther's also a steady high note piano playing in 6/8 - and other embellishments. http://www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/Time_Signatures-Fabio_Anile.mp3 or on my itunes podcast =20 Fabio www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo 2009/7/22 Rick Walker I'm just loving a few things that I'm listening to right now and not only wanted to share them with you all but wanted to know what people are currently listening to. Nik Bartsch's RONIN ---- 'Holon'=20 just doesn't leave my car stereo for very long. I'm in love and = it's also inspiring because this music is just made for live looping experiments (as Bernhard's = lovely and funky set in Rome and Zurich proved. =20 2) All day (and as I type) I've been listening to the lovely new ------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01CA0C50.395D4010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Fabio
 
I listened to your mp3. Beautiful = stuff! I like it!=20 :-)
 
JC Mendizabal
Black Note Music
http://www.blacknotemusic.com<= BR>Via=20 Sinistrae
www.viasinistrae.com
http://sinistrae.libsyn.com/Other=20 Sites
http://www.allhaildiscordia.com= /
http://maddogmagick.blogspot.c= om/
http://secretsareevery= where.blogspot.com/
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Fabio_A=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 = 10:08=20 AM
Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping = (WAS: OT:=20 What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable)

Rick, we're on the same way !
- Nik Bartsch's RONIN resides in my car player from 3 weeks, and = I=20 haven't get enought yet !
You had the fortune to meet him in person, but I well remember = the exact=20 moment when Bernhard played that music in his i-pod trough my PA=20 system kitcken ;-)
I've immediately bought on line two of his album and - being a = Reich fan=20 - I've so deeply fallen in love with Nik Bartsch's music that in these = days=20 I'm practicing just on stuff like this.
 
Here's a recording I made with Mobius a few nights ago, with = different=20 time signatures:
 - drums and percussions (are not pre-recorded loops: i've = played=20 them on my keyboard) play in 4/4
- bass part (later doubled with piano) plays in 5/4;
- piano arpeggios play in 5/4
- ther's also a steady high note piano playing in=20 6/8
- and other embellishments.
 
http://www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/Time_Signatures-Fabio_Anile.mp3
or on my itunes=20 podcast
 
 
Fabio
www.myspace.com/eterogeneo=
 
 
2009/7/22 Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
I'm=20 just loving a few things that I'm listening to right now
and not = only=20 wanted to share them with you all but wanted
to know what people = are=20 currently listening to.

Nik Bartsch's RONIN ---- =  'Holon'=20
just doesn't leave my  car stereo for very long.   I'm = in love=20 and it's also inspiring because
this music is just made for live = looping=20 experiments (as Bernhard's lovely
and funky set in Rome and = Zurich=20 proved.  
2) All day (and as I type) I've been listening to = the=20 lovely new


------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01CA0C50.395D4010-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 19:12:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32FC33BE86; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1gZzdk0JOQQJ7gHa8LajjklNWi6lZSQo1MbCFma6d5Y=; b=hPP+jpoEorW3T7TgrsEZiZM8KkmyhhTlWkNW5JYLzrfH0IoVBbvUA21WuLE5VvNWCp T/kiRTAnfpQtbcIs01Yphba1oB5b+q5gs65goAyGpHok90z7KDtawsFrJgF4SteoalIN 8Rh2ANG3eRVLsnia9pIO0iK+Rmp+s+hX/PPDI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KH7CJ3lOcJuoj4EkgrQ07GW6r3VzZNpzRew9CuBTPxdUsSoKbdryb+81wUFQNs0dc7 8lirQ10LHUuC0hqQVNCvRYLGBNhXIjWzRTfJPhY3WSk/6insVD8Tcj910RYyRHo3YwgH IsbSNLGjiKJtpKscKjSGA4Q741dxunKPPC5hA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090724072517.59030@gmx.net> References: <20090724072517.59030@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:12:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Yes, excellent stuff! 2009/7/24 Buzap Buzap : > really nice, Fabio :) > -- > GRATIS f=FCr alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 19:25:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 504A83BE87; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:25:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8oYLsX24Jy3YIEl0NzNnMKbrTRp2qFKGePT5VEcj6CI=; b=onP7SC/w7/oV3RtLGGpTA5E4yLCv4q+ziwhNOap1VSx7K9Rc7cJbuEPH8RV+3m+xm9 w5JBfj4FElZ4vyKyS8odq2i6Fb/pByQKmOi+OfKVeCYhBo7kLjmn1FtWTWvRFOCbXN5r kUKf6b8Q2d1ydDXKmjxZwF28f+9JV5nINVUIM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BG8gDo/oqxOBbOLgXAQMOezOnbBpbi0BUesQ65QsxEXqc2gnnT14pVRMPAF+fk6ds4 whpDh6UFB1S3QPm8ndWZOu+nMF/Lv2/DudQBkw5/plz0la+J50/g1lRV60aWQxTBHx0L p5AVrF4CMcyyBcw8weMbwsF5UjX3jb+iTKsvg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <587606.98991.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <587606.98991.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:17:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: living without money(O.T.) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:25:14 +0000 (UTC) Your pension is your children staving to death relying on charity organizations for food? On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:04 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > > >> >> So what's poverty in a land where >> =A0 food is abundant? > > In Switzerland believe it or not not being able to go skying is considere= d poor > > >> If food isn't abundant, >> =A0 where you are, why are you having children? > > LOL! thats your pension,security,shelter, etc. etc. right there and all f= rom members of the family which are not likely to kick you out if u miss a = payment,what else can you hope for when u get old in a poor country? > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 19:41:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A6C73BE84; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=WKOlNDgEjG0ZnWp744uqKFy4H+DO79gAr4eu0VcyZ6vEIdiXQnM7X1KH/PK16dTl; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907241011i4c9e0e6fq69b79d1e07c803c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907240801g30a548c0x91d01c1e2526f01b@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907241011i4c9e0e6fq69b79d1e07c803c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:48:44 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79653afc21455839f30b5b76be03fae437350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Nice one...!! >Just had a close encounter with Logic 9... Downloaded the PDF manual >and while reading it lying on the coach I fell a sleep and dreamed >that I was working out, doing push-ups on my finger tips. At the very >first push-up I was brutally brought back awake by a loud *BURP!* >sound. That was my finger tips on the tracking pad and the thumb >pushing just a bit too hard where there is no menu... Funny! :-)) This >old G4 Powerbook has quite loud built-in speakers. > >Per > > > >On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: >> I think that Logic 9 sounds like it will be quite useful, provided it does >> what it says it does! >> >> >>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Sjaak wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The question is: Do you rely on Logic to earn your living? Would you >>>>> risk that on speculating that it will work perfectly from version 9.0? >>>>> Now they have announced Logic 9... logic 8 is still broken... >>>> >>>> Hi Charles, >>>> I don't rely on Logic for a living. I use Mainstage as my host on stage >>>> and I use a little bit of Logic at home. Sure, Logic 8 had a few problems >>>> but for me nothing major and as long as I have a workaround, I'm fine. >>> >>> >>> I sometimes rely on Logic for a living, but not all the time since I'm >>> a freelance worker in many areas related to music. When I'm on a pro >>> base production deadline that is short I simply don't use certain >>> functions that are known as less stable. That totally does the trick >>> for me, since working efficiency is all about balancing available >>> project time against choice of tools and methods. In my situation that >>> was possible to do even with Logic 8 and this new version will save me >>> lots of working hours to begin with... >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.boysen.se >>> www.perboysen.com >> >> >> -- >> ... >> http://www.zmix.net >> >> -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 19:54:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27D4E3BE84; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=K+feAJtyEkRe7SHG4CWF+EpzLI1aNrbrffHLFAHJDls=; b=XQlm+ieH9c50cigI5HHYnKhgp1sH+mzdycs8uLr9HxaemCrcxQN9ZLfcjoJzkXhll0 VTDM8AKYBJhwVfUvKwxuSMeu4NbtGVdVGBaMxo4Bwd6ftLfSD1ENDujI2VXaN5fcJHke raNru9LNaNkYSCdAa+xbaR2cOhIPADP3nmiVA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=o9fH6BSH18ZF1lQJWjkv7qZnejYOE7dA3JKZi8hUZ5pFjGW1eOJxcMEFZwjwrWsQbs 7N4tyiqF5xqHnAAdNGq+UzsHWZaAQYj2+QnROo/OIAGxKnIdwYf2cM1OPhXPXI91Aq8Y AMWyNUOejHgYlS7qP8S3UuRGJlW+X8pbNfJ7I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:54:10 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907241254m39786b59l6289c52b32b87e31@mail.gmail.com> Subject: mailing list rules (was: Re: online real time looping sequencer game) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Massimo, may I remind you of the mailing list rules as posted on www.loopers-delight.com, of which I take the liberty to quote: "Are there posting guidelines for the Looper's Delight Mailing list? Please set your mail program to use plain text when posting to Looper's Delight." While big signatures are very annoying in general, they are especially so if they come with graphics. If that is not for you, you may consider posting to the forum instead. Thanks, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 20:13:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58F803BE7F; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:13:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248466427; bh=JSqD09tFswN30m6GLk8ZB1WnNn3ZNlwSSGNBmgebRlI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Do8I4fir8e6gEw5Y6FVm3cUtpjJLB0/Uj4tyEz4pk1PJeQ8zHGbzED/1vdCIvRUgHcwhMuCR9TW3Rl84ramMi/RrDLiLt7kael1aN+Yn3ydgtlsYt8SrWGBBiOUHEFeua/PrhuVVx22ibGlXpD7K97TegXZ+CzeTa3UJO4VP/5s= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YUyHMjq9geHI8DDV0h2GNdlZ4dC+97HMnW48FWJmrKbbVlPI7UXcVxUXFu5bVhDnT6L5/BHUE5myBKejl/MiNrmKRkgkA7LsEYJkl+7vLIQPTDgRqURl7lMAw6R5fEMSqLNmvVEBYJHwb3zrIZ7BIDc2oDc6J5jlLrvOx8isz/0=; Message-ID: <292609.14648.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Vay2PEYVM1nAvA4eC4yASIHEUiRhD66oyFg_z6UIyCWlIQOEIr8yNiKm2Suv7htnC2AroZke9k2lr7uZtpqhjog33iWsGA9tBPYr3GpVGr1G0ljGTD8uxMtNDEGwGFzSBQBIZcY6DtdPgXwRG64lbbTY9eAbaELcKErPu07POFSDOV1B5cayLNNj3rAFXV5BxVOCTOsggqbUZD5mKe.3PJYE8uYeVK4QBy1SSMDJKdia30hPta6a5B2nuaYJmrPD3LTvnJ0pEuJT05LXRffs5O1_thxCe24xWWXLYwpuWvVASV8R9dkHND5LdqZU2VrNkXESe0RSGtZgkKYLDjVmfyljhK1FUo2MI2RTUXxtYa5rbKCT1yYqyqEtZHE- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1357.22 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 References: <20090724072517.59030@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:13:47 -0700 (PDT) From: margaret noble Subject: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1107663709-1248466427=:14648" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:13:48 +0000 (UTC) --0-1107663709-1248466427=:14648 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello List, I am having a blast with Delay/Arpeggiators in Logic. I love getting accidental melodies/harmonies from playing with the steps. So for example: I have an arpeggiator/delay that takes whatever sound comes in and plays it at: 1. Normal Pitch 2. 4 semi-steps up 3. 7 semi-steps up and then 4. 11 semi-steps up I think I am trying to mimic a chord construction or something to that effect. It is great with simple, quick sounds but gets a little busy/conflicting in tone with more fed into it. So, I need to simplify it. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on semi-step configuration where I could get some melodic accidents that would be pretty safe within any given key structure. (Pardon me if my music theory sounds weak, IT IS!) :-) http://margaretnoble.net/ --0-1107663709-1248466427=:14648 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hello List,

I am having a blast with Delay/Arpeggiators in Logic. I love getting accidental melodies/harmonies from playing with the steps. So for example:

I have an arpeggiator/delay that takes whatever sound comes in and plays it at:

1. Normal Pitch
2. 4 semi-steps up
3. 7 semi-steps up

and then

4. 11 semi-steps up

I think I am trying to mimic a chord construction or something to that effect. It is great with simple, quick sounds but gets a little busy/conflicting in tone with more fed into it. So, I need to simplify it. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on semi-step configuration where I could get some melodic accidents that would be pretty safe within any given key structure.

(Pardon me if my music theory sounds weak, IT IS!) :-)

http://margaretnoble.net/






--0-1107663709-1248466427=:14648-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 21:17:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 052023BE84; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FTYd57+jCfyBGpR+JOWahOM+2AFmU7AdKKRZdO4+/s8=; b=pjVxOgbgcvUWcs6UXKYhciUtsRxCo/YlME+eWMtnhpuFApCSdgh3/so6SZuroDJ4Vf t0XPEzsyCunuDrx0yN8xvyasR12tbItnnDP4I3uNJJ71vUfMgJeIQwClPT1kSf9rznHK kSis1d9KaiXa+qDhxwYIOI1pKpmRhvp2NuVls= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RsIw+DhKy5CXWlNK2YXNQmP8sMroeyvswsC1wudmwb5UVEu8V48djt610ydSlviMjj 1GB4MHldT7RvE2MdlVNsZxcF6UMkrCLs1sxt3lH1/HGJMsRlr+h4tV9Hdu6w0px0yVxJ zQ2RP+9oCoy2Wgsb9nzPrHpzmBYWYq9ORmaQ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <292609.14648.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20090724072517.59030@gmx.net> <292609.14648.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:17:31 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:17:32 +0000 (UTC) ... if working with midi, some of ableton live midi fx arpeggiator, scale, chord can do this. and for accidents, random would do the trick. 2009/7/24, margaret noble : > Hello List, > > I am having a blast with Delay/Arpeggiators in Logic. I love getting > accidental melodies/harmonies from playing with the steps. So for example: > > I have an arpeggiator/delay that takes whatever sound comes in and plays it > at: > > 1. Normal Pitch > 2. 4 semi-steps up > 3. 7 semi-steps up > > and then > > 4. 11 semi-steps up > > I think I am trying to mimic a chord construction or something to that > effect. It is great with simple, quick sounds but gets a little > busy/conflicting in tone with more fed into it. So, I need to simplify it. I > was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on semi-step configuration where > I could get some melodic accidents that would be pretty safe within any > given key structure. > > (Pardon me if my music theory sounds weak, IT IS!) :-) > > http://margaretnoble.net/ > > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 24 21:59:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 701B53BE85; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:59:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=7Zqt46/vvasaf8Tm39074BXpRmEI472UVUsbfTojq1o=; b=K6LO4Z34Do0EJfGgcn2ZDMbnMiQIabHcqtDQ2rYVy22JMsL8UhbaDnBrU4sEAGWkys ODrtNrGSDtAP98G04bl2KtPzlnbcBxen5sXzIR4+EbFmWI9hogy9ksNlgbyYNb3+rqpO oJF3xNlyZiIjoSDChWi6Tl2IrLg4P9O+Kt9x0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=AYBW1vh/jkEo6/lYby4jscD4wxCwVcpy0PCEgGriP8Q1oc3wBkmWGbiHMyxE9gjykc hXYCWOEHdt/Qk1Rdbm/I74LvmP17lr0R1XqJzOfsyMZ9Ofmiln8Y+Y0xKndswe6FBuQN lkz1yMAyUrjru6QiYFGgTOiF+SpQf7A2bhwjk= Message-Id: <9AE7C6BA-3964-4766-9BB8-1EA2EBE8AE6E@gmail.com> From: Matthias Grob To: Loop List In-Reply-To: <4A69B9EF.7050009@het.it> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--417402019 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: online real time looping sequencer game Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:58:57 -0300 References: <4A69AD9E.6030401@cruzio.com> <4A69B9EF.7050009@het.it> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:59:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--417402019 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yes, its beautiful but it did some noisy breaks and finally killed my whole OSX which hardly ever happened before! On 24 Jul 2009, at 10:41, Massimo Liverani wrote: > Yess!!! and have you also aldready tested this other?: > > http://www.hobnox.com/index.1056.en.html > > it's real amazing! > > > Rick Walker ha scritto: >> >> Wow, this is fun!!!!! >> >> http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#9r8XKj/lab.andre-michelle.com/ >> tonematrix/ >> >> >> > > > -- > --Apple-Mail-2--417402019 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes, its beautiful but it did = some noisy breaks and finally killed my whole OSX which hardly ever = happened before!

On 24 Jul 2009, at 10:41, Massimo = Liverani wrote:

Yess!!! and = have you also aldready tested this other?:

http://www.hobnox.com/in= dex.1056.en.html

it's real amazing!


Rick = Walker ha scritto:
Wow,   this is fun!!!!!

http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#9r8XKj/lab.andre-michelle.com/tonemat= rix/





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= --Apple-Mail-2--417402019-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 00:59:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AE823BE7E; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wfA43t8flEjoos/lBNoMbF+Kou96d/Ib44nvuBCDFW8=; b=ZRKbud69TgP/EwRNw2uz83pfTzT3yzZ3ehQemo2oJumTeo1u51e7Nndeql37f8eR2Z URZXsw2FNCsK5F0VPF1lK8GgTf8ThcF91Ot49ty8JhT9T+aBuKGSuOscpN8UslgRR9OU 4MFqPCNk4YspBFOxWmsHIvjfZFICZE17ZbqjM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N/ujniRObtfqRc6ZNO+uG+/WUpqtnlxfP+N/EQma6RAt2Pt48l7WXtvExPOwxZde/+ d32AwzrGXRomrLSciIMT2sFWZU9X5reGsmyKKrDPzn3A0hqbFSgMOqm26aHbbUmY6hy/ a9JFxLs0AV3SIgC7GzTqPWOY528QIX6bl+PcQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9AE7C6BA-3964-4766-9BB8-1EA2EBE8AE6E@gmail.com> References: <4A69AD9E.6030401@cruzio.com> <4A69B9EF.7050009@het.it> <9AE7C6BA-3964-4766-9BB8-1EA2EBE8AE6E@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:59:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: online real time looping sequencer game From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-_l-c.A.IRF.njlaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Here's one that won't crash your computer Matthias... ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_SGwDhKTrwU On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > yes, its beautiful but it did some noisy breaks and finally killed my who= le > OSX which hardly ever happened before! > On 24 Jul 2009, at 10:41, Massimo Liverani wrote: > > Yess!!! and have you also aldready tested this other?: > > http://www.hobnox.com/index.1056.en.html > > it's real amazing! > > > Rick Walker ha scritto: > > Wow,=A0=A0 this is fun!!!!! > > http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#9r8XKj/lab.andre-michelle.com/tonematrix/ > > > > > > -- > > From psybnc@hector.lgbs.dk Sat Jul 25 04:57:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2932 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:57:23 UTC Received: from hector.lgbs.dk (static.199.103.46.78.clients.your-server.de [78.46.103.199]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E31A3BE79 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by hector.lgbs.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EBB944421175; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 06:07:11 +0200 (CEST) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received A Hallmark E-Card! From: hallmark.com Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090725040711.EBB944421175@hector.lgbs.dk> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 06:07:11 +0200 (CEST)
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 05:58:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 530153BE7C; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 05:58:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2301a1de-61f5-46da-b1d4-9cf3d9943b2a_" X-Originating-IP: [24.21.142.227] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:58:28 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> References: <4A665BD2.5040905@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jul 2009 05:58:29.0222 (UTC) FILETIME=[EED4D060:01CA0CEC] Resent-Message-ID: <0Ok6N.A.P9.G8paKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 05:58:30 +0000 (UTC) --_2301a1de-61f5-46da-b1d4-9cf3d9943b2a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK...Beside the aforementioned Jon Hassell=2C I've had lots of raga vocalis= ts--Lakshmi Shankar=2C etc.=3B Let It Bleed ( for old time sake=2C and quit= e honestly=2C I fucking love that album!!) Adam Hurst=2C a local celloist i= n a vein somewhat like Zoe Keating --I highly recommend him!=3B plus... and= here I wax narcissistic=2C lots of my own found sound pieces--I've been re= cording every crazy sound I hear lately---local MAX train ( like BART) wate= rfalls=2C AM radio sound bites=2C people -especially "foreign" tongues hear= d at the mall=2C our -Portlands-Saturday Market crowds. Mixing beats=2C ton= es=2C etc. Some good stuff coming out of it. I will post the recordings asa= p so comments will be welcome! Just off a mid-summer high desert vacation and loving it.. J.D.Devros deafrose58 > Date: Tue=2C 21 Jul 2009 17:22:42 -0700 > From: looppool@cruzio.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable >=20 > I'm just loving a few things that I'm listening to right now > and not only wanted to share them with you all but wanted > to know what people are currently listening to. >=20 > 1) When I was in Zurich=2C I got the chance to go see > Nik Bartsch's RONIN play at their legendary 'Montags' > shows (with a really nice opening solo looping set > by our own Bernhard Wagner). > I was just blown away. It's the best live instrumental > music I've seen in a very long time. Minimal=2C textural > compositions/improvisations exploring the realms of > polyrhythms and odd time signatures. Every member of his > ensemble firing on all cylinders (bass and contrabass clarinet. > innovative percussion=2C fretless 6 string bass and traspset) all > mixing with Nik's amazing grand piano/prepared acoustic piano/ > electric piano improvisations. Two fisted on two instruments he > was playing simultaneously in two different time signatures in > waves of acoustic 'loops' that cycled to and from each other. > The sound was amazing to boot. They record every night > so they have the sound in this venue dialed in. >=20 > Nik Bartsch's RONIN ---- 'Holon'=20 >=20 > just doesn't leave my car stereo for very long. I'm in love and it's=20 > also inspiring because > this music is just made for live looping experiments (as Bernhard's lovel= y > and funky set in Rome and Zurich proved. =20 >=20 > 2) All day (and as I type) I've been listening to the lovely new >=20 > John Hassell CD =2C "Last Night the Moon Came Dropping its Clothes in the= =20 > Street" >=20 > . This record is as good as any past Hassell records > and that says volumes as he has a half dozen that are in my top 50 list > of favorite CDs of all times. It is beautiful=2C haunting=2C melancholy= =2C=20 > foreign > and even alien sounding and as intelligent as it gets for a close to > ambient record. And thanks=2C Massimo=2C for hipping me to this little= =20 > gem. =20 >=20 > 3) Just recently I discovered the music of the superlative and creative= =20 > jazz > drummer/composer Brian Blade so I've purchased both of his jazz CDs > with Brian Blade and the Fellowship. > In the past I've tended to avoid drummer led jazz projects (a horrid=20 > prejudice > since I'm a writing drummer) but Blade completely avoids having his recor= ds > sound like vehicles for drumming. He's a really good writer and these=20 > are as > good as any recent releases in jazz. >=20 > Then when I heard that he was also writing singer songwriter material I=20 > was=2C > again=2C skeptical. >=20 > Brian Blade "Mama Rosa" is just a revelation! >=20 > He has written a beautiful melancholy meditation on growing up. He has=20 > a lovely > voice. The songs are really well written. His chordal vocabulary is=20 > sophisticated > so the record is really interesting but it doesn't sound sophisticated. > It's just simply put=2C lovely. =20 >=20 > 4) Chris and I are driving down to Los Angeles (500km) to see the=20 > British pop band=2C Elbow's only west coast > appearance. There first three CDs are fantastic and incredibly=20 > inventive. The production is a marvel=2C > full of fascinating timbral choices of traditional instruments=2C found=20 > sounds and electronics. > Imagine if a band with the stylistic scope of the Beatles were playing=20 > in the Naughties only > further north in England and with a decidedly darker/moodier and more=20 > melancholic vibe. >=20 > Elbow "Asleep in the Back' > Elbow "One of Thousands' > Elbow "Leaders of the Free World" (which I'd start with first=2C it'= s=20 > there third) >=20 > I'm actually not as enamored of their latest release but it doesn't=20 > matter because the first three are so good. >=20 > 5) Then I sit not 100 feet away from the window of my brother's studio= .=20 > He's writing=2C recording and developing material for his new CD. For= =20 > having played frequently > with someone for a very long time=2C I"m always amazed that every couple= =20 > of days I hear music > come out of his studio (and it wafts through our compound on these hot=20 > summer days when > the windows are open) that is beautiful thought provoking and which has= =20 > me constantly > asking him=2C "how did you do that". I promote and demonstrate th= e > Looperlative LP-1 but Bill is just becoming a master at using it and=20 > leaves me far in the dust > in terms of his creative depth in using it. > It's not out yet and I'd probably get one free for being family=2C but I"= m=20 > gonna buy this > sucker when it gets released. >=20 > Bill Walker "As Yet Untitled" >=20 >=20 > What are you guys and gals listening too? >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE: Search=2C add=2C and share the web=92s latest s= ports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=3DTXT_TAGL= M_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=3Dsports= --_2301a1de-61f5-46da-b1d4-9cf3d9943b2a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK...Beside the aforementioned Jon Hassell=2C I've had lots of raga vocalis= ts--Lakshmi Shankar=2C etc.=3B Let It Bleed ( for old time sake=2C and quit= e honestly=2C I fucking love that album!!) Adam Hurst=2C a local celloist i= n a vein somewhat like Zoe Keating --I highly recommend him!=3B plus... and= here I wax narcissistic=2C lots of my own found sound pieces--I've been re= cording every crazy sound I hear lately---local MAX train ( like BART) wate= rfalls=2C AM radio sound bites=2C people -especially "foreign" tongues hear= d at the mall=2C our -Portlands-Saturday Market crowds. Mixing beats=2C ton= es=2C etc. Some good stuff coming out of it. I will post the recordings asa= p so comments will be welcome!
Just off a mid-summer high desert vacatio= n and loving =3B it..
J.D.Devros
deafrose58

>=3B Date: T= ue=2C 21 Jul 2009 17:22:42 -0700
>=3B From: looppool@cruzio.com
>= =3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: OT: What's = on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable
>=3B
>=3B I'm just loving a few = things that I'm listening to right now
>=3B and not only wanted to sha= re them with you all but wanted
>=3B to know what people are currently= listening to.
>=3B
>=3B 1) When I was in Zurich=2C I got the = chance to go see
>=3B Nik Bartsch's RONIN play at their legendary 'Mon= tags'
>=3B shows (with a really nice opening solo looping set
>= =3B by our own Bernhard Wagner).
>=3B I was just blown away. It's the = best live instrumental
>=3B music I've seen in a very long time. Mini= mal=2C textural
>=3B compositions/improvisations exploring the realms = of
>=3B polyrhythms and odd time signatures. Every member of his
= >=3B ensemble firing on all cylinders (bass and contrabass clarinet.
&= gt=3B innovative percussion=2C fretless 6 string bass and traspset) all
= >=3B mixing with Nik's amazing grand piano/prepared acoustic piano/
&g= t=3B electric piano improvisations. Two fisted on two instruments he
&g= t=3B was playing simultaneously in two different time signatures in
>= =3B waves of acoustic 'loops' that cycled to and from each other.
>=3B= The sound was amazing to boot. They record every night
>=3B so they = have the sound in this venue dialed in.
>=3B
>=3B Nik Bartsch's = RONIN ---- 'Holon'
>=3B
>=3B just doesn't leave my car stereo= for very long. I'm in love and it's
>=3B also inspiring because>=3B this music is just made for live looping experiments (as Bernhard's= lovely
>=3B and funky set in Rome and Zurich proved.
>=3B >=3B 2) All day (and as I type) I've been listening to the lovely new>=3B
>=3B John Hassell CD =2C "Last Night the Moon Came Dropping i= ts Clothes in the
>=3B Street"
>=3B
>=3B . This record i= s as good as any past Hassell records
>=3B and that says volumes as he= has a half dozen that are in my top 50 list
>=3B of favorite CDs of a= ll times. It is beautiful=2C haunting=2C melancholy=2C
>=3B foreign<= br>>=3B and even alien sounding and as intelligent as it gets for a close= to
>=3B ambient record. And thanks=2C Massimo=2C for hipping me to = this little
>=3B gem.
>=3B
>=3B 3) Just recently I dis= covered the music of the superlative and creative
>=3B jazz
>=3B= drummer/composer Brian Blade so I've purchased both of his jazz CDs
&g= t=3B with Brian Blade and the Fellowship.
>=3B In the past I've tended= to avoid drummer led jazz projects (a horrid
>=3B prejudice
>= =3B since I'm a writing drummer) but Blade completely avoids having his rec= ords
>=3B sound like vehicles for drumming. He's a really good writer= and these
>=3B are as
>=3B good as any recent releases in jazz.=
>=3B
>=3B Then when I heard that he was also writing singer son= gwriter material I
>=3B was=2C
>=3B again=2C skeptical.
>= =3B
>=3B Brian Blade "Mama Rosa" is just a revelation!
>=3B=
>=3B He has written a beautiful melancholy meditation on growing up.= He has
>=3B a lovely
>=3B voice. The songs are really well wr= itten. His chordal vocabulary is
>=3B sophisticated
>=3B so the= record is really interesting but it doesn't sound sophisticated.
>=3B= It's just simply put=2C lovely.
>=3B
>=3B 4) Chris and I= are driving down to Los Angeles (500km) to see the
>=3B British pop = band=2C Elbow's only west coast
>=3B appearance. There first three = CDs are fantastic and incredibly
>=3B inventive. The production is = a marvel=2C
>=3B full of fascinating timbral choices of traditional in= struments=2C found
>=3B sounds and electronics.
>=3B Imagine if = a band with the stylistic scope of the Beatles were playing
>=3B in t= he Naughties only
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>=3B melancholic vibe.
>=3B
>=3B El= bow "Asleep in the Back'
>=3B Elbow "One of Thousands'
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>=3B
>=3B I'm actually not as enamored of t= heir latest release but it doesn't
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>=3B
>=3B 5) Then I sit not 100 feet away from= the window of my brother's studio.
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>=3B having played frequ= ently
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>=3B of days I hear music
>=3B come out of his stu= dio (and it wafts through our compound on these hot
>=3B summer days = when
>=3B the windows are open) that is beautiful thought provoking a= nd which has
>=3B me constantly
>=3B asking him=2C "how did you= do that". I promote and demonstrate the
>=3B Looperlative LP-1= but Bill is just becoming a master at using it and
>=3B leaves me fa= r in the dust
>=3B in terms of his creative depth in using it.
>= =3B It's not out yet and I'd probably get one free for being family=2C but = I"m
>=3B gonna buy this
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&g= t=3B
>=3B Bill Walker "As Yet Untitled"
>=3B
>=3B
&g= t=3B What are you guys and gals listening too?
>=3B

Wi= ndows Live=99 Hotmail=AE: Search=2C add=2C and share the web=92s latest spo= rts videos. Check it out. = --_2301a1de-61f5-46da-b1d4-9cf3d9943b2a_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 06:25:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 267EB3BE85; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 06:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Z3+W0iKSQxHW/D0UkHI64Ga5cTKGVcnzENb0M7likJo=; b=vOkgSSh2KWve937YPoEtXGATgfc+rpGMFriKqESQTy3zMvJe50z5vLrmBqQR9mrfP+ Mw5uz73/yP+by11Vcsoaw/2MZ9851Kn/3RR5CGbSZZlyY6djax7EG5TSctzHot/AEYSb 2K8lqxEoMAbz4x7JplxjwKB7GIdu//W45lkK0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tIayIeiBmapTyCF22/u1cnP3AM8bzLfeVUlP0zBJym825BGWBCnpBN8c6Y0M9wYgfy Em+bPyajOUWT6V1WdBMirtr+uES6tQRo4Ibe+GC09a9bp7NgENPKFwTNyF3pPZBRlGQX knEFnem13/rIBi2lcmksYoDaqCYNUUMw7rQoQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A69AD9E.6030401@cruzio.com> <4A69B9EF.7050009@het.it> <9AE7C6BA-3964-4766-9BB8-1EA2EBE8AE6E@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:25:13 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907242325q469b5252k58d53e9c51878ed5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: online real time looping sequencer game From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b621927156046f81c8a4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 06:25:15 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b621927156046f81c8a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit that is pretty neat - this could turn up at Loopfest! along this line I've been trying out a number of audio apps with one sampler/looper kind of sim to this for my recently inherited iTouch and some are pretty neat. I've also gotten a mic that works with the iTouch. More about this in my thread I started day before. Jim On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Here's one that won't crash your computer Matthias... ;) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SGwDhKTrwU > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > > yes, its beautiful but it did some noisy breaks and finally killed my > whole > > OSX which hardly ever happened before! > > On 24 Jul 2009, at 10:41, Massimo Liverani wrote: > > > > Yess!!! and have you also aldready tested this other?: > > > > http://www.hobnox.com/index.1056.en.html > > > > it's real amazing! > > > > > > Rick Walker ha scritto: > > > > Wow, this is fun!!!!! > > > > http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#9r8XKj/lab.andre-michelle.com/tonematrix/ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5b621927156046f81c8a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that is pretty neat - this could turn up at Loopfest! =A0along this line I&= #39;ve been trying out a number of audio apps with one sampler/looper kind = of sim to this for my recently inherited iTouch and some =A0are pretty neat= . =A0I've also gotten a mic that works with the iTouch. =A0More about t= his in my thread I started day before.

Jim

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 a= t 8:59 PM, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's one that won't crash your computer Matthias... ;)

= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_SGwDhKTrwU

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Matthias Grob<matilists@gmail.com> wrote:
> yes, its beautiful but it did some noisy breaks and finally killed my = whole
> OSX which hardly ever happened before!
> On 24 Jul 2009, at 10:41, Massimo Liverani wrote:
>
> Yess!!! and have you also aldready tested this other?:
>
> http://www.hobnox.com/index.1056.en.html
>
> it's real amazing!
>
>
> Rick Walker ha scritto:
>
> Wow,=A0=A0 this is fun!!!!!
>
> http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#9r8XKj/lab.an= dre-michelle.com/tonematrix/
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> <firma_max.GIF>
>




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music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 07:25:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 662613BE85; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=vpcDYoYLW15x0nOGuhqeJkYv0OGBwwWDzjzPpCW1IGM=; b=VK0/tL0Q1moHQ4fXn/eCEVtscUGSEvnlNJJIVWlMKzxiAfYGzj1kbc8T2XkyrN6siD z2GXM2tt2+3N0aoQxKhbtOH62HCF9+oR1h7UImkmHDBfmpdSo3L2EX1owoDKXld0eYye lsPjw/RW8GCwNE0QP0pwRmWPfEkxbLkPEnj/U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=LUE/v57fCmR1YPxLFxioRD55EnHL3fPI1nv+V6tzxIaswBJ+HUeeQ2Y8Vj89KOdmkC vrptZt0ud5BeD05MuV1ya3+ByOAeY+55r0zEDgv4GUEIN6/Fj3P6fJ++9kMgTlw6huPv /JNrjALKN1YKmyY5W0XN6CUALc5klFz8CXDV4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60907242325q469b5252k58d53e9c51878ed5@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A69AD9E.6030401@cruzio.com> <4A69B9EF.7050009@het.it> <9AE7C6BA-3964-4766-9BB8-1EA2EBE8AE6E@gmail.com> <9e0440a60907242325q469b5252k58d53e9c51878ed5@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 09:25:29 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d5d039ae63ffe575 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907250025w9d222c4xa1795d82e2c61a9b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: online real time looping sequencer game To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be7324806ef046f82a18d Resent-Message-ID: <7Xf6Z.A.vJE.-NraKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:25:50 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be7324806ef046f82a18d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I too love this online toy... and was fascinated by the Tenori... but what are the connection capabilities? Nothing? Same goes for the iPhone apps... forgive my ignorance, Im the only person in Oslo without one but is there some way of triggering midi from the iBone? And using the accelarometer? I would LOVE a iPhone app that had a 16 by 16 touch buttons sequencer... m -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174be7324806ef046f82a18d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I too love this online toy... and was fascinated by the Tenori... but what = are the connection capabilities? Nothing?

Same goes for the iPhone a= pps... forgive my ignorance, Im the only person in Oslo without one but is = there some way of triggering midi from the iBone? And using the accelaromet= er?

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 10:18:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CBE43BE86; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:18:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 231831604/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.221.114/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.221.114 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArwBAPJ4akpPRt1y/2dsb2JhbAAI00eEDAWJfg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,268,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="231831604" Message-ID: <4A6ADF5F.50207@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:33:03 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody References: <20090724072517.59030@gmx.net> <292609.14648.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <292609.14648.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:18:01 +0000 (UTC) hi Margaret, I've used hardware to do a similar thing (delayed pitch-shift). Here are the 2 recipes that work relatively safely within a key. 1. Normal Pitch and then (usually 2 beats later) 2. 5 steps up OR 1. Normal Pitch and then 2. 7 steps up With those, with every Mode there's only one note that goes out of scale (for better of worse). Those are much simpler than your patterns, but by playing through them for a while I came across a number of nice effects. Any more complex arrangement is always going to tend to dissonance pretty quickly. The immediate reaction on playing through them is of interest, but the output becomes more rigidly defined by the pattern, and less manipulable by the player. I'd guess that my patterns are just too simple for what you want to achieve. If you want to expand the theory, then how about? "As the patterns get more complex, the result has less variety." best regards andy butler margaret noble wrote: > Hello List, > > I am having a blast with Delay/Arpeggiators in Logic. I love getting > accidental melodies/harmonies from playing with the steps. So for example: > > I have an arpeggiator/delay that takes whatever sound comes in and plays > it at: > > 1. Normal Pitch > 2. 4 semi-steps up > 3. 7 semi-steps up > > and then > > 4. 11 semi-steps up > From test@hypercom.co.th Sat Jul 25 10:38:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from hypercom.co.th (mail.hypercom.co.th [203.144.227.1]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728B93BE79 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by hypercom.co.th (Postfix, from userid 501) id A71CA3816A9; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:44:35 +0700 (ICT) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Your friend has sent you an ICQ Greeting Card! From: ICQ Greetings Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090725094435.A71CA3816A9@hypercom.co.th> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:44:35 +0700 (ICT)
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 10:46:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE7163BE86; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yv1Xdy19PINUo2UsBtQrJBQAKAjdILKBug6ad6YJMDk=; b=SH1S1vjREn45wlwcuH0aNvMRhi8BmI0oXXsaW4Ae2mihm1IYSOK9ll2OwoRW3Axzga KJ6MBaItzVuvLLVWxGTwPbqy9oKEqGGu8/dIiff8n7jNt5Jjw1kli9N4+0F3hs0TdZyQ XRputwaOw58wDCD2mANuNjxD9cJX6AqbzTaE0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=lRC9bH2Bh2gJFh57oTn9n1auFbAv2UouVGj+40ytCeDKna9loHCV6/wc4MNU9q/5dE /3GdtZvRIDeU+nevukBo4JJwVtrP4Z8QelJPS65ncXpGo3Sz4N+0oQS0Gr98ffDjDfkx ZvOkirKPzx6TByMdZacucGMtXgE279JNC7BNc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:46:45 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907250346x68b59e9at367668e18b1ba1a9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:46:46 +0000 (UTC) > I am having a blast with Delay/Arpeggiators in Logic. Margaret, Andy, of course, there's always the safe route of using what they call an intelligent pitch shifter (which transposes diatonically, i.e. a "step" isn't a semi-tone step, but a step in your scale). That way, the outcome always works in the chosen tonality, and by changing that scale setting during the piece, you can create changing arpeggios/harmonizations based on identical input material. If you're working with the most simple of these constructions - a pitch shifter/delay chain with feedback - then it helps to work with tonal sets which are rather simple: if you're using diminshed chords, there's a total of three of them in the tempered system, and for whole-tone scales, there are only two, and in both cases, the pitch between each step is equal. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 10:47:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8348A3BE8A; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 232474184/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.221.114/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.221.114 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArwBAAp/akpPRt1y/2dsb2JhbAAI0wmEDAWJfg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,268,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="232474184" Message-ID: <4A6AE643.1050506@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:02:27 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mailing list rules (was: Re: online real time looping sequencer game) References: <7334ca1b0907241254m39786b59l6289c52b32b87e31@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907241254m39786b59l6289c52b32b87e31@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Hi Massimo, if you can, it *would* help if you can post in plain text to the list (switching off HTML in your email software for these posts). There's actually good reason for this, as a number of people still use the digest version of the list which is often rendered illegible by an HTML post. ...but please ignore the tone of Rainer's post, I'm sure most LDers didn't even notice your sig. andy butler Rainer Straschill wrote: > Massimo, > > may I remind you of the mailing list rules as posted on > www.loopers-delight.com, of which I take the liberty to quote: > "Are there posting guidelines for the Looper's Delight Mailing list? > > Please set your mail program to use plain text when posting to > Looper's Delight." > > While big signatures are very annoying in general, they are especially > so if they come with graphics. > > If that is not for you, you may consider posting to the forum instead. > > Thanks, > > Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 10:51:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7583E3BE8B; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:51:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YKpwcdoHdOnhZR9Gzyq3mJXPw7ksSikW9vB6lhJNPBk=; b=ZAXqC4PvLufUWnVpDeag3eUldHOqT/AdFWAQUmeBks55W/ytuWTA/XOQpbhR0QZSmb RKtegqVV8FkEWkXnLHqpSVDJ5eS4DU5eVPTcTo8r0I0Ha5RqId+S5d9ZCJZIR1KNDLAT H0VGfHDr0tyEUtXibXpbKiNOFm5vBmxITLIy8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=KGnd6zBXIb9SO8sIMw/tlnvMvHKVelSj9b9LdLuTKAvObhjkFZmw0mW/ME1F/rWJeX HBdYVrOpdSqjvQ4oA2EYYUar5WtRpZa6A0s5RM3BRCzEdwfaOcoUBa07lXjRgkQ5VwIo uEJVyuZd2z+F5aTRjPYebEBds/ISuJJAUHyVM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:51:49 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907250351p68ca01ean543949776561be07@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [Virtual Gig Spam]: The MoinSound Studio Sessions, today (Saturday July 25th) 1600 UTC From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:51:52 +0000 (UTC) After the ill-fated transmission from t-u-b-e two weeks ago, which unfortunately crashed after a short time amount, the MoinSound Studio sessions are returning to the MoinSound Studio today: http://www.justin.tv/moinlabs The session starts, as usual at 1600 UTC (which is roughly five hours from now, check http://tinyurl.com/kkrvv4). Look forward to some old, as well as some new ideas. Looking forward to see you there! Rainer --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs http://justin.tv/moinlabs http://vimeo.com/moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 10:56:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8C5A3BE8C; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:56:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 235789742/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.221.114/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.221.114 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArwBANqBakpPRt1y/2dsb2JhbAAI0m+EDAWJfg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,268,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="235789742" Message-ID: <4A6AE87A.8060101@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:11:54 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody References: <7334ca1b0907250346x68b59e9at367668e18b1ba1a9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907250346x68b59e9at367668e18b1ba1a9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:56:44 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: >> I am having a blast with Delay/Arpeggiators in Logic. > > Margaret, Andy, > > of course, there's always the safe route of using what they call an > intelligent pitch shifter (which transposes diatonically, i.e. a > "step" isn't a semi-tone step, but a step in your scale). That way, > the outcome always works in the chosen tonality, keeping in mind that intelligent pitch shift isn't bright enough to work on anything but a pure single note line, so it wouldn't be suitable for a feedback loop. yep, I forgot the whole tone and diminished scales which are very relevant here...thanks Rainer. A full catalogue of similarly suitable scales would be found under the heading:- "Messian's modes of limited transposition." andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 12:17:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 932A13BE8B; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yJh9dseSTKe26dnUeezeVun5HiDSNXp06nMS8SIGcA0=; b=IwFQ5neNPY9NRvIaoLP8N1PEgxoyV2YKmV3ryY/f7qlBdiDWMuF2dA0UVGnuINIYN4 oKQKpGy2D9Y7EgZs7wuwmDHBJ68J555vHB08XTg0jBLDSfiriSXCFll711UrfQgnyS/0 Esl0np46RvNdSEwKikGoxe8d0Mab8r1q/gv0E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Y1wNygBtZwCD3UgzuyJGqDfqZE/3HjLp7pl43sg5DO5JiTMZT2IvkkR9OSrcR+Ek3O 8EIkElPBkNMoFXh+gLnxd8SE0pWf3oCexWcQU8kfkAEPQq90YGfqC/X6bOAfynU0HjgW pZDDziUQN/QFtEgEgOERJq5SFidadQyR0/nV0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907250346x68b59e9at367668e18b1ba1a9@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907250346x68b59e9at367668e18b1ba1a9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:17:45 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907250517m4ede5e12o7181eb11ae905229@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:17:46 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > If you're working with the most simple of these constructions - a > pitch shifter/delay chain with feedback - then it helps to work with > tonal sets which are rather simple: if you're using diminshed chords, > there's a total of three of them in the tempered system, and for > whole-tone scales, there are only two, and in both cases, the pitch > between each step is equal. Great post, RAiner! One specific character of the whole tone scale that I like is that it has no natural tonal center. But as listeners our brain always creates a tonal center "by default". What this means in musical terms is that if using whole tone scales you can play just about anything and it will sound good. So, if you are two or three musicians that want to do a group improvisation you can stick to the whole note scale as a way to make it easier to develop the ability to listen while playing and collectively create direction and movement in the music. It's just a very forgiving, open and inspiring scale! Diminished immediately brings up association with guitar playing, since that was my first instrument to learn and I was quite excited when finding out that if you play a diminished chord on a guitar and move it up the neck three frets, then you will be back on the same chord again - but with a different voicing. IN fact there only exists three diminished chords within a twelve tone scale, which is logical as each diminshed chord has four notes. When starting to do livelooping on sax by the early eighties I owned a digital delay and a digital harmonizer that I daisy-chained in a feedback loop and set the harmonizer to +3 (a minor third) to find that it also creates a diminished chord. Equally, harmonizer set to 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 produces whole tone cluster-scapes. I guess you (Margret) use the PitchShifter 2 plug-in for that in Logic. You can actually set up two bus/aux channels as a feedback loop to have the signal pass through a delay (set to 100% wet - important!) and a PitchShifter so the audio will "climb" or "dive" in pitch with each loop repeat. There is also a plug-in that does all this within its own signal routing, the Delay Designer. The DD also offers filtering and LFO, which can be fun as well. If you care to work with synths/sampler you may do related experiments with Logic's arpeggiator. First make a MIDI assignment to control the arpeggiator's parameters (typing in the used MID CC# at "Controller Base: xx"). Then you may use an external knob, pedal etc to change the rules for arpeggiation while it's running. This is so fun! Most powerful is to work the time resolution in real-time, making the arpeggiation of a chord/cluster/scale go faster or slow down. Especially cool IMHO is to add many tracks and create interweaving textures based on your improvising instincts. If recording your actions as MIDI you are able to go back afterwards to analyze and learn what it is that makes certain textures so musically intriguing. Think I'll stop here. This topic is so fascinating it can just go on for ages afaic :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From guest2@portal.tci.ac.jp Sat Jul 25 14:43:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 13740 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:43:59 UTC Received: from portal.tci.ac.jp (portal.tci.ac.jp [210.131.246.218]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1490F3BE82 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from portal.tci.ac.jp (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by portal.tci.ac.jp (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id k1HAuVHQ017766 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:56:31 +0900 Received: (from guest2@localhost) by portal.tci.ac.jp (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id k1HAuUj2017765; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:56:30 +0900 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:56:30 +0900 Message-Id: <200602171056.k1HAuUj2017765@portal.tci.ac.jp> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Your friend has sent you an ICQ Greeting Card! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 14:58:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AE4D3BE89; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:58:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=0c3Ws/9xN0WgsrETCQ+AU9sKTtoutK0c5HT/uWz6sB4=; b=rMSG6UgbapyPV+CKg0hulDHS9QFOJlXFjA1kx3/k3Vjal7uAL13MWxjZols4o8aUj+ i7XaLeI3K8IyoxSVz1Q5jHh0V/WaPwcNOVvFQpLKgKeJEMc0K0wF+VWz+0jsowU69R5e IXeYjadh2S6XyJ2rbYw1Fi75K7VlaNP1hv1QU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=QNhCr1gmnLR8X1TYdb6SuMmfhX/da5STSdo34Ho0c0RYs17j6a4k+f9Q4SBEBWN0Fa GENtl8UYj59EtYn6z/eEvJyM2o0E93EMxqHPIIOKI52cnGYBpp+0BrSExClJ27Ix8TPs aKlFJoA0x0mEkTgLE+wtyb6k5wCC3sVze0Ixw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4A6AE643.1050506@tiscali.co.uk> References: <7334ca1b0907241254m39786b59l6289c52b32b87e31@mail.gmail.com> <4A6AE643.1050506@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:58:02 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0c2c77214500ef21 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907250758r28ce4453w96620d41cb8a1e54@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: mailing list rules (was: Re: online real time looping sequencer game) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be5e2bb5dc6046f88f356 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:58:25 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be5e2bb5dc6046f88f356 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah Massimo.. I dont really mind sig files.. some people here are old luddites and like their email in Black and White... the same people seem t= o like all the LD mails in one great big post.. and like to scroll for hours thru endless repetition, when people hit reply and all those repeated headers ... Phew... why everyone dont get Gmail and be done with it .. I=B4= ll NEVER know... but that the reason for them rules... don=B4t mind Rainer... he's German (I think) and very very organised... (only kidding R.. he he.. feeling cheeky today... maybe thats because Im about to go see Harry Potter= , first date with my wife for 3 and a half years (age of my son) maybe a even a beer afterwards... who know WHAT will happen after that!!) Mark On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:02 PM, andy butler wrote= : > Hi Massimo, > if you can, it *would* help if you can post > in plain text to the list (switching off HTML > in your email software for these posts). > There's actually good reason for this, as a number of people still use th= e > digest version of > the list which is often rendered illegible by an HTML post. > > > ...but please ignore the tone of Rainer's post, I'm sure most LDers didn'= t > even notice your sig. > > > > andy butler > > Rainer Straschill wrote: > >> Massimo, >> >> may I remind you of the mailing list rules as posted on >> www.loopers-delight.com, of which I take the liberty to quote: >> "Are there posting guidelines for the Looper's Delight Mailing list? >> >> Please set your mail program to use plain text when posting to >> Looper's Delight." >> >> While big signatures are very annoying in general, they are especially >> so if they come with graphics. >> >> If that is not for you, you may consider posting to the forum instead. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Rainer >> >> >> > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --0015174be5e2bb5dc6046f88f356 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah Massimo.. I dont really mind sig files.. some people here are old ludd= ites and like their email in Black and White...=A0 the same people seem to = like all the LD mails in one great big post.. and like to scroll for hours = thru endless repetition, when people hit reply and all those repeated heade= rs ... Phew... why everyone dont get Gmail and be done with it .. I=B4ll NE= VER know... but that the reason for them rules... don=B4t mind Rainer... he= 's German (I think) and very very organised... (only kidding R.. he he.= . feeling cheeky today... maybe thats because Im about to go see Harry Pott= er, first date with my wife for 3 and a half years (age of my son) maybe a = even a beer afterwards... who know WHAT will happen after that!!)

Mark

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:02 PM,= andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Massimo,
if you can, it *would* help if you can post
in plain text to the list (switching off HTML
in your email software for these posts).
There's actually good reason for this, as a number of people still use = the digest version of
the list which is often rendered illegible by an HTML post.


...but please ignore the tone of Rainer's post, I'm sure most LDers= didn't even notice your sig.



andy butler

Rainer Straschill wrote:
Massimo,

may I remind you of the mailing list rules as posted on
www.loopers-de= light.com, of which I take the liberty to quote:
"Are there posting guidelines for the Looper's Delight Mailing lis= t?

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--0015174be5e2bb5dc6046f88f356-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 15:02:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 184773BE89; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=lsmERiGC+tPfn8psM8it/vcaZw3KJ3EH2rlWK25vaJI=; b=OMh+V3MR1dt5O47Pv3iajZ5qi+lJy2BbOa30i4MRkeeZWBz8zE9BrDUNu/qAKweB9E 80Bk/G3+XpI6Y9SAXHWM1geMjRQhUUJcqeBuDQheSdMlIMavYkb2TOHBShEK3cmkrED4 1zkT+SBi+IVU4rtDVG22OhShn2467saUQ76jw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=R5JVFr+MpRa6ECzIDos1uI/Pj7nGnXe1N4excBdbvk7huTTjMGsUTrZijSne7NgVj8 h9ZpbWpy1aeWbAwwwBTfB/6TNo92DYtSYygIS4S1FEYjEgJOGOBFaAZmheSOFXQP6XUf mFO+nyboEDRf+hwbfvcpcSHhM9cMo6xHuANLk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4A6ADF5F.50207@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20090724072517.59030@gmx.net> <292609.14648.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A6ADF5F.50207@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:02:00 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 67820e4d8df9a2d9 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907250802j35aef927u7f2508cb06562664@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be134e9334c046f8901e1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:02:23 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be134e9334c046f8901e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:33 PM, andy butler wrote: > hi Margaret, > > 2. 5 steps up HUH.. sorry... what do you mean Andy.. 2.5 steps?? steps ?? 2 and a half whats??? MArk -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174be134e9334c046f8901e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:33 PM, andy butle= r <akbutler@= tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
hi Margaret,

2. 5 steps up

HUH.. sorry... what do you mean Andy.. 2= .5 steps?? steps ??

2 and a half whats???

MArk

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--0015174be134e9334c046f8901e1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 15:13:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98D443BE82; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GtsYrhekJjK1WMCz7MXhAVUS7TeDPozxmx2tcQ1IQIQ=; b=qLB/gEyhb+oipu3ViqY4kWNL5132XtyX3c87eP7jEVNY8Age78FL+u0QfzZdY/7TNs LNXLW+ZZNvjv8cNtcS+LQNSIxHYTuw15t6qAMxiNExlEDTheVykfF+c4nlD0Crj+nW9y 70Io5TRfSmYgAzO981aokEaR795jObXNFK2F8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=P6zQHZ2HcaUrD84zkovPeyOqnBwtayLcmd7E1P2GTGGHZBtyM20W74I+iBwVN7hmBa dowbX9mkClBFv0kqKsoB9bwBIpE7rX8lBgJFHwajj5XBDP36v8OUryBBP97h1WhXekb0 PZONhl6rAUXww1ddf4E7792bglVhjc+IpbLuM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907250758r28ce4453w96620d41cb8a1e54@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907241254m39786b59l6289c52b32b87e31@mail.gmail.com> <4A6AE643.1050506@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0907250758r28ce4453w96620d41cb8a1e54@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:13:48 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907250813i514ac27fx3c8c352813908b55@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: mailing list rules (was: Re: online real time looping sequencer game) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Life quality as a luddite may easily be improved by turning off image display in your email client! Best luck to you with the date! Don't forget to follow up with a report tomorrow :-)) Per On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 4:58 PM, mark francombe wro= te: > Yeah Massimo.. I dont really mind sig files.. some people here are old > luddites and like their email in Black and White...=C2=A0 the same people= seem to > like all the LD mails in one great big post.. and like to scroll for hour= s > thru endless repetition, when people hit reply and all those repeated > headers ... Phew... why everyone dont get Gmail and be done with it .. I= =C2=B4ll > NEVER know... but that the reason for them rules... don=C2=B4t mind Raine= r... > he's German (I think) and very very organised... (only kidding R.. he he.= . > feeling cheeky today... maybe thats because Im about to go see Harry Pott= er, > first date with my wife for 3 and a half years (age of my son) maybe a ev= en > a beer afterwards... who know WHAT will happen after that!!) > > Mark > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:02 PM, andy butler wro= te: >> >> Hi Massimo, >> if you can, it *would* help if you can post >> in plain text to the list (switching off HTML >> in your email software for these posts). >> There's actually good reason for this, as a number of people still use t= he >> digest version of >> the list which is often rendered illegible by an HTML post. >> >> >> ...but please ignore the tone of Rainer's post, I'm sure most LDers didn= 't >> even notice your sig. >> >> >> >> andy butler >> >> Rainer Straschill wrote: >>> >>> Massimo, >>> >>> may I remind you of the mailing list rules as posted on >>> www.loopers-delight.com, of which I take the liberty to quote: >>> "Are there posting guidelines for the Looper's Delight Mailing list? >>> >>> Please set your mail program to use plain text when posting to >>> Looper's Delight." >>> >>> While big signatures are very annoying in general, they are especially >>> so if they come with graphics. >>> >>> If that is not for you, you may consider posting to the forum instead. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rainer >>> >>> >> > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 15:18:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3DD33BE89; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sr+FclK5S3li19QnD/7Ra+XFRMrkIeJeOtmN3f/VcFs=; b=P8ADBmnEvrRds0wY/UcKaYLxvkFLhiiOPwFC4aqn7em+Soutkh8HmLdSGoEdYUzsq+ XtY7vSNwnnb7gKYcEnoUJrZ5wFBaSKI66AzCqkJxZSin+DTnJ9wCr3jbDWGDP+dv46y4 EquXeVuRS2xuCwPpknvxtsvjA9MM4a5DnAGwY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tV+gtBPwD1OOnaA5nQRVOA9xD2xGEAfKaXEJeNjQbYKcRLLqMEHRfowuVgBTqGQjqK +TJpQ3213hMzfM0bV2P9Z2P/S/QhrzwyAELYsOigNmkxz1Gy72MyZeDPU8653LDK/Hs6 PHU0PFBzn7auh2afTxW2KacFlqmczH4d5XGGQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907250802j35aef927u7f2508cb06562664@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090724072517.59030@gmx.net> <292609.14648.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A6ADF5F.50207@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0907250802j35aef927u7f2508cb06562664@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:18:06 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907250818o4210b415r56abd27ccbca00b7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:18:06 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:02 PM, mark francombe wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:33 PM, andy butler > wrote: >> >> hi Margaret, >> >> 2. 5 steps up > > HUH.. sorry... what do you mean Andy.. 2.5 steps?? steps ?? > > 2 and a half whats??? I KNOW!!! That must be a quarter note! At least if "one step" is interpreted as a semi tone. However, if interpreted as a whole tone "Two Point Five Steps" will get you "The Devil's Interval", the tritonus. So, in fact Two Point Five means Six Feet Under. ;-)) Does this make sense....? Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 15:35:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7ED783BE88; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:35:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2zvAoSMOLolGN4Sl/EpQVd7unfr5ex3/Cn2tVAawKKY=; b=s4N6wg0nTmNdugecX1l8ZJcIU+USOfhvrcmpE043NltKKo9BEtIQF/cwMRlM1VLl2m 4rUPRgP5L73/pq5Yvhgsrd/qJrnjj83LvSQXOO0IWyydllG9S6utmYsWD98ghnsSY9wQ pta7JM7yo64K/W7tDxrYvEs5wWON5/ypjCGQw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=DMJF+UIjBNvqobEglRgveTodK3NAzYZ/INDWz27TBld8xPLATdQeHF4UX2Oeg5zMXK 5vQXXdQEs4Bf6HPFvpmrPyZe0yHij1ikg50WLzFFi0EwZNuk3yQxvOM9XFYri6ZFc0Tp s/2mcHk0krLB2e1ue1sF0+Jsc3LG4LOM+lOPs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:35:41 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907250835q17897764nbd8d8b2c4d80d61d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3C_eID.A.DkC.RZyaKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:35:45 +0000 (UTC) > "Two Point Five Steps" will get you "The Devil's Interval", the tritonus. Ok, I don't get it. "one" is one whole step (two semitones), and "one half" is one half whole step (one semitone). Am I just a little confused, or will then 2.5 give you a perfect fourth? And 3.0 would be the tritonus (hence the name). Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 15:40:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B49123BE86; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 95045 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:40:34 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yhizYSCF+qvFuOyiLj/69OVR7mMuWlGyQHJ7GmXrD6w=; b=ADoWUx82lS54psaWG4Q/7XdemOlfHW4vCzZQPmbX9p44akWVtoaOx6uMDlnAjrscOg LZoHxzvouf9JOFkvPePDjj39cFmRzepO4Xa1JncKo8aq4s+aHmSvq1t6wNGCPsk674mZ davo+9skWE7VRkL7xqK3d1Zch61ymrvyDevTc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TENKxjDjTvO61uyl4XDzTE0nblUYQwo6Cccci10yZ2B5b8DsaX4NI1D3tuMnKaUo0K 2ADUm6lGQfQqPDKD6MI6Z/1Tz/RXQSbyEbpq1MdR46Lq2FpPniIdlcBuHWSlrL9gNs/G SfVcOIaw9ZiBM8P/O5uEBfqOfD4KFFtG9lByI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907250835q17897764nbd8d8b2c4d80d61d@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907250835q17897764nbd8d8b2c4d80d61d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:40:32 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907250840s60fa87bclad30e52765e210d5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Ahh... You are right, Rainer! This time German Precision wins over Scandinavian Ecological Thinking ;-)) I was really saving up too much on Brain Recourses when typing that post. But admit it is a hell of a lot of fun although it is incorrect! ;-)) P;-) On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >> "Two Point Five Steps" will get you "The Devil's Interval", the tritonus= . > > Ok, I don't get it. "one" is one whole step (two semitones), and "one > half" is one half whole step (one semitone). > Am I just a little confused, or will then 2.5 give you a perfect > fourth? And 3.0 would be the tritonus (hence the name). > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 15:41:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DDC43BE87; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:41:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 235455090/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.152.111/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.152.111 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArwBAPPDakpPRphv/2dsb2JhbAAI0A6EDAWJfg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,269,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="235455090" Message-ID: <4A6B2B33.7000603@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:56:35 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody References: <20090724072517.59030@gmx.net> <292609.14648.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A6ADF5F.50207@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0907250802j35aef927u7f2508cb06562664@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907250802j35aef927u7f2508cb06562664@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:41:26 +0000 (UTC) just trying to follow Margaret's made up notation. Not sure I managed that tho'. It's a perfect 4th up, (or a perfect 5th), with a 2 beat delay, mixed with the undelayed dry signal. I used to prefer the 4th because my Zoom 1201 sounded a bit flat when trying to do a larger stretch tan that. It was a lot of fun to play guitar into that. andy mark francombe wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:33 PM, andy butler > wrote: > > hi Margaret, > > 2. 5 steps up > > > HUH.. sorry... what do you mean Andy.. 2.5 steps?? steps ?? > > 2 and a half whats??? > > MArk > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 17:59:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 063FE3BE82; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:59:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=F3L/YAcTQXFe7heNhsTHZ3Ppn9Mo7CcoBJRYdnU9WDw=; b=uHQBL3RENEWLE/S0e7Z2ALybrmNSixm7L5ysaMlSEgXnVPhsgWB9xyxgZmxy+Jpypu HGdaSQp811P5Bo1SFCsFJWSyK7v/vXUwtbyC2YH3Ap8mS8Kgd21YkmFNok4Boe5IQ2UG JSQpssMetHWIgYICqwNnzHpFuYr/tXigcvS5I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RQAevKX6IulviMa3HeQUvhOdVC4BzYZGZs8q9zem12fSAjnkUhf6P2gLOcC1bC3B84 n/DUw9SLqbP4WbMaYhioMRAIVlm055Rzrb48o+jMpCe1HXmGOpulj833sSrW7prOjn45 TRVGW9NRRct2N485/VEfkv5dAVBGUS8KXbsGQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907250025w9d222c4xa1795d82e2c61a9b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A69AD9E.6030401@cruzio.com> <4A69B9EF.7050009@het.it> <9AE7C6BA-3964-4766-9BB8-1EA2EBE8AE6E@gmail.com> <9e0440a60907242325q469b5252k58d53e9c51878ed5@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907250025w9d222c4xa1795d82e2c61a9b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:59:53 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: online real time looping sequencer game From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:59:53 +0000 (UTC) The problem with a lot of these things like iPhone apps is that while they provide a great UI for the user, what do you do for the audience in a live situation? I once saw Jon El Bizri set up video of his stuff and mix it with other stuff, and I saw Thomas Dolby do the same but with a head cam. Worked pretty well but a little crazy. Would be great to get a direct video feed off these devices. On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:25 AM, mark francombe wrote: > I too love this online toy... and was fascinated by the Tenori... but what > are the connection capabilities? Nothing? The Tenori on has a headphone out audio jack that functions pretty well and standard MIDI in and out. It's own sounds are very blip bloopy for the most part but as a MIDI controller it's kick ass. > > Same goes for the iPhone apps... forgive my ignorance, Im the only person in > Oslo without one but is there some way of triggering midi from the iBone? > And using the accelarometer? > > I would LOVE a iPhone app that had a 16 by 16 touch buttons sequencer... I think there is something like that... I've been having some fun with Virsyn's iSyn, but that's different. Cool none the less. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 18:05:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1506B3BE82; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:05:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ig6a9cOcVFlNxV1rd4K6KN6j14nl2+R4gGRdBmJToas=; b=luIhjFa6I8IqFPDxFOpSJRWcvvA9YmiX9DkBd7cvq8lrLtg0qRYqRYKdeToTX64kTz 9T3SL8bHmCreivSY8UqDMtIK9jPQ8mEs/jA8ahpbEpt1NN+p4m0siu0wRtoeXQe8p2ni 5OkOuUFHWRDtZQXWuzD2Rkmq/GmRUIi5b2T58= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=h1qj+6YIt2w6kLQxZLPSr5m8/2GYtu+NLp4rMsD2smMPhy5lGHxj0iuhTBg7JvwMFd Ac18NFHVk54Em+A9GPEwJk0dVEUAV92m7OnxIOmr9T05TbZV4wGVWpDUf7OLA8gSPTOn HXc8sW0Iw0trIq9RPXWgeOEeArC/B+KNwrBYY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907250813i514ac27fx3c8c352813908b55@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907241254m39786b59l6289c52b32b87e31@mail.gmail.com> <4A6AE643.1050506@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0907250758r28ce4453w96620d41cb8a1e54@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907250813i514ac27fx3c8c352813908b55@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:05:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mailing list rules (was: Re: online real time looping sequencer game) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:05:23 +0000 (UTC) Attached images are also extra taxing on the email server and someone (Kim) is paying for the bandwidth, so that's another reason to not use html emails. On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Life quality as a luddite may easily be improved by turning off image > display in your email client! Best =A0luck to you with the date! Don't > forget to follow up with a report tomorrow :-)) > > Per > > > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 4:58 PM, mark francombe w= rote: >> Yeah Massimo.. I dont really mind sig files.. some people here are old >> luddites and like their email in Black and White...=A0 the same people s= eem to >> like all the LD mails in one great big post.. and like to scroll for hou= rs >> thru endless repetition, when people hit reply and all those repeated >> headers ... Phew... why everyone dont get Gmail and be done with it .. I= =B4ll >> NEVER know... but that the reason for them rules... don=B4t mind Rainer.= .. >> he's German (I think) and very very organised... (only kidding R.. he he= .. >> feeling cheeky today... maybe thats because Im about to go see Harry Pot= ter, >> first date with my wife for 3 and a half years (age of my son) maybe a e= ven >> a beer afterwards... who know WHAT will happen after that!!) >> >> Mark >> >> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:02 PM, andy butler wr= ote: >>> >>> Hi Massimo, >>> if you can, it *would* help if you can post >>> in plain text to the list (switching off HTML >>> in your email software for these posts). >>> There's actually good reason for this, as a number of people still use = the >>> digest version of >>> the list which is often rendered illegible by an HTML post. >>> >>> >>> ...but please ignore the tone of Rainer's post, I'm sure most LDers did= n't >>> even notice your sig. >>> >>> >>> >>> andy butler >>> >>> Rainer Straschill wrote: >>>> >>>> Massimo, >>>> >>>> may I remind you of the mailing list rules as posted on >>>> www.loopers-delight.com, of which I take the liberty to quote: >>>> "Are there posting guidelines for the Looper's Delight Mailing list? >>>> >>>> Please set your mail program to use plain text when posting to >>>> Looper's Delight." >>>> >>>> While big signatures are very annoying in general, they are especially >>>> so if they come with graphics. >>>> >>>> If that is not for you, you may consider posting to the forum instead. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 18:15:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DF483BE89; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248545704; bh=6mpg8Oy1b4Bg7ScK83qjc0I9Q4rNFRa45HfES8SlMPU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1XgaYJ1+wQF7ibUA7vYLCTJzbNPdUxdpUv3vmvzjtCFFPJ4dAuj3xvLH00x3A0jZJawpsEYoI8EWjDNx9dfs87raw3W9BrSySiXbfEscygQdSLJD8TClVbiMoIT2lTr3LbWfVGIQ8NwpMpGQSt4boIUI9eOSFDrkJKTqJd1hQb4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BlZBy/TS3fwGzldoRnhFLfM75Re1yN/KoEIapMMClNlIpeFQbU84ymPfMq0zh9BRe2rc1tt25u9N2fnPpt3EPKWweS7DIeqteJUC4F1h8b53hM5BrtLCHNuELeos7lQQL6SlwS+3q/BgOKi3stNORViQf+awEzB848hs/GZg6qM=; Message-ID: <602885.80983.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: _FjUBn0VM1k42v.rBpuv.7JfYfebBhezxqSvUPytifcq1hmYelJSXDKi9.346A4T67QIQ73YLCUXamC41B7lAwOKJelNiq73oBsYMU_xlEXoMNmRD7RVQ.Z4sWzuTQ6_7iCG7zmTjtpPCgPyqAnZITZjbBW1b63BHgcpT.tR0xeCLtAmp1WXK8JLM4qvdjk4qYkBn3WL8KJ9faftFFFFxIYhWjNWp4YetvJ2.Cao3T7w_ult2RlvmiDgGwvSZSGiJQ66PQI.iwZ5BsKbBNy2bg5yccdGng2tAXnP__EnvPmIg9oG1Vd3YbgtFu2jEPKG6o._halQfoWoY3a.58p3e_xAELmYx_m.h5OL X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1357.22 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 References: <20090724072517.59030@gmx.net> <292609.14648.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A6ADF5F.50207@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0907250802j35aef927u7f2508cb06562664@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B2B33.7000603@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:15:04 -0700 (PDT) From: margaret noble Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A6B2B33.7000603@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1474965245-1248545704=:80983" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:15:08 +0000 (UTC) --0-1474965245-1248545704=:80983 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii sorry, i wrote that confusingly!!! i mean: in comes an acoustic instrument, out goes a 4 part delay, each part is in different semi-tones, the fist delay sound is the same pitch as original, the second delay sound is up 4 semi-tones, the third sound is up 7 semi-tones up and the fourth sound is u 11 semi-tones up. So, a nice melodic sequence comes out when only one note is hit. play more than one and it gets busy and a bit unpleasant tonally. I would to configure the melodic delay in such a way so i can improvise a few notes and get some nice harmonies. i am thinking obvious that less pitch shifts are better but i am wondering if their are particular values of pitch shifts that are safer for playing. make more sense? http://margaretnoble.net/ ________________________________ From: andy butler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:56:35 AM Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody just trying to follow Margaret's made up notation. Not sure I managed that tho'. It's a perfect 4th up, (or a perfect 5th), with a 2 beat delay, mixed with the undelayed dry signal. I used to prefer the 4th because my Zoom 1201 sounded a bit flat when trying to do a larger stretch tan that. It was a lot of fun to play guitar into that. andy mark francombe wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:33 PM, andy butler > wrote: > > hi Margaret, > > 2. 5 steps up > > > HUH.. sorry... what do you mean Andy.. 2.5 steps?? steps ?? > > 2 and a half whats??? > > MArk > > -- www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0-1474965245-1248545704=:80983 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
sorry, i wrote that confusingly!!!

i mean:

in comes an acoustic instrument, out goes a 4 part delay, each part is in different semi-tones, the fist delay sound is the same pitch as original, the second delay sound is up 4 semi-tones, the third sound is up 7 semi-tones up and the fourth sound is u 11 semi-tones up. So, a nice melodic sequence comes out when only one note is hit. play more than one and it gets busy and a bit unpleasant tonally. I would to configure the melodic delay in such a way so i can improvise a few notes and get some nice harmonies. i am thinking obvious that less pitch shifts are better but i am wondering if their are particular values of pitch shifts that are safer for playing.

make more sense?


 
http://margaretnoble.net/




From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:56:35 AM
Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody

just trying to follow Margaret's made up notation.
Not sure I managed that tho'.

It's a perfect 4th up,
(or a perfect 5th),
with a 2 beat delay,

mixed with the undelayed dry signal.


I used to prefer the 4th because my Zoom 1201 sounded
a bit flat when trying to do a larger stretch tan that.

It was a lot of fun to play guitar into that.

andy


mark francombe wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:33 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk <mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>    hi Margaret,
>
>    2. 5 steps up
>
>
> HUH.. sorry... what do you mean Andy.. 2.5 steps?? steps ??
>
> 2 and a half whats???
>
> MArk
>
> -- www.markfrancombe.com <http://www.markfrancombe.com>
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch


--0-1474965245-1248545704=:80983-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 18:16:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E457D3BE8A; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Aa/5neNxUB++H4lIQ3VL98w8HEZj1YNBCpTmYp1bMnU=; b=IoPcpAuO1DPnj4ttKMHWzJVSH3sf/ToHcCMtiRO1n+XBL2fUTgzUiMoig7+4TZW5IZ qybWZLr8wQ7YVaUE7D9+lTklfId30Mx9pksFmS5XrOxexiDuXebg5S2StkqpwmZgsSS2 HrgEgl4U6k0S8eQcYMKJHa17dB19DHIugcaIE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uLapb+NaAAuUzT+Srt1rEzkrg3qiTVQzXRxpX4QvFPOWJtHZHAMNJf/ITbeMJUpMxs oG1tQCZjL+wj5aS96UNVVi9Yqyl1xANVvhrX4E31pK00PvmnExDAAbQYT1Ni0aqCudL3 cYZNx6q3BH/2XjJenJzBaX66GuxxxG4gC/784= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <925650.60501.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <925650.60501.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:16:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: living without money(O.T.) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Oh trust me, my blood boils when I hear stuff like that. Not to cause a shit-storm but when the Republicans get up on their high horse about anti abortion and birth control and then counter that with statements like "Hunger is a great motivator." http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/21/cynthia-davis-hunger/ Awesome. So what I get from that is, "Crap out as many kids as you want, just don't cry when your minimum wage (or lower sweatshop wage overseas) isn't enough to feed them. UNICEF should be by from time to time." I remember trick-or-treating for UNICEF when I was 5. 40 years later the problem only seems worse. Is pouring money and food into the situation the answer? I really feel that education and responsible birth control use is the only answer because hunger is indeed a good motivator.... to motivate someone who feels they were brought into a world that doesn't have anything for them to take it by force. On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:17 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > > no i meant they are the only hope to get their own folks out of their own= missery so children are sort of an investment though the outcome is not al= ways pretty but thats the way it is.But formost is the education problem,re= ligious believes etc. check out some of the Popes speeches condemning peopl= e for using of condoms! > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- Mark Sottilaro schrieb am Fr, 24.7.2009: > >> Von: Mark Sottilaro >> Betreff: Re: living without money(O.T.) >> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Datum: Freitag, 24. Juli 2009, 12:17 >> Your pension is your children staving >> to death relying on charity >> organizations for food? >> >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:04 AM, L.Angulo >> wrote: >> > >> > >> >> >> >> So what's poverty in a land where >> >> =A0 food is abundant? >> > >> > In Switzerland believe it or not not being able to go >> skying is considered poor >> > >> > >> >> If food isn't abundant, >> >> =A0 where you are, why are you having children? >> > >> > LOL! thats your pension,security,shelter, etc. etc. >> right there and all from members of the family which are not >> likely to kick you out if u miss a payment,what else can you >> hope for when u get old in a poor country? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 18:20:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A60043BE8B; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248546010; bh=oux3VqIdUXv31s1gH6O7yEnvwjdCouPk/kFqheGcYdM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DKBQGqhx83q8IC1f22j8pZoMllq0CXuDyM84UsEmkXxcwQbcJEd4oA/zT64Nfn9k5AbDzLII7WF4wDbYLtMAIK7JLdQ8bGHhSOJkNMeQrMFRy/DlB5bjzDTnqc6B+tqzJHFc52cH2VF2aSUtEblW3QaxsxRb6kgo0HmyPv/X3FY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ciaKzhpIVaZo7vfC2tGGpE/kK4sMv7EH3PTuVTG/gK3bOWLCTt0m3nrdnzZrCJU3bNShOCzYUev1tez+nc+hnr9rqRqdTsQhO8WdQ8uroDQHR1FS6c1ZDItKqLpOZ49lMI/wTmscw2xptzs5vN3tfkDznEQ6LlUheCkIwDn00Ik=; Message-ID: <648630.2341.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GJX5jjIVM1lH3vqIv5pA8dg9oYyg7R.fcNAhFGTDR42hy4e_sF7eWCTCzPcuUnw.grLwe7t3IWt.JNNIBE8XlV1OecKFI1UJ2UosjHxuqaCaPS6JK3eIh1n6X6R3Ceptw6Gn9HnTFNM2BWN2GRBeE6rYirWPWJzbdAIGpCKKRC3Y99g_xSVCdOOdybA6vrB3JEg6PrqDa4Jal4YaVQuaDNJMSK2pQh7T996sfi5Z0vj1gs2iHM.KqddoJVOefmq.e0Jiyxj4Dfbf48t9ukkdCEKA_c9NCLL5EvG9Oxu8KdBsM0t4lIPG4gh48ovdTtkncPGLJP7dsHZy301llV47hE4QS9MMECJjwPkN X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1357.22 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 References: <7334ca1b0907250346x68b59e9at367668e18b1ba1a9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:20:10 -0700 (PDT) From: margaret noble Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907250346x68b59e9at367668e18b1ba1a9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-149218749-1248546010=:2341" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:20:11 +0000 (UTC) --0-149218749-1248546010=:2341 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii And AS ALWAYS, thanks for reading and responding to my posts. I get so much out of the list's feedback. Really amazing!!!!! http://margaretnoble.net/ ________________________________ From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 3:46:45 AM Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody > I am having a blast with Delay/Arpeggiators in Logic. Margaret, Andy, of course, there's always the safe route of using what they call an intelligent pitch shifter (which transposes diatonically, i.e. a "step" isn't a semi-tone step, but a step in your scale). That way, the outcome always works in the chosen tonality, and by changing that scale setting during the piece, you can create changing arpeggios/harmonizations based on identical input material. If you're working with the most simple of these constructions - a pitch shifter/delay chain with feedback - then it helps to work with tonal sets which are rather simple: if you're using diminshed chords, there's a total of three of them in the tempered system, and for whole-tone scales, there are only two, and in both cases, the pitch between each step is equal. Rainer --0-149218749-1248546010=:2341 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
And AS ALWAYS, thanks for reading and responding to my posts. I get so much out of the list's feedback. Really amazing!!!!!
 
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From: Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 3:46:45 AM
Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody

> I am having a blast with Delay/Arpeggiators in Logic.

Margaret, Andy,

of course, there's always the safe route of using what they call an
intelligent pitch shifter (which transposes diatonically, i.e. a
"step" isn't a semi-tone step, but a step in your scale). That way,
the outcome always works in the chosen tonality, and by changing that
scale setting during the piece, you can create changing
arpeggios/harmonizations based on identical input material.

If you're working with the most simple of these constructions - a
pitch shifter/delay chain with feedback - then it helps to work with
tonal sets which are rather simple: if you're using diminshed chords,
there's a total of three of them in the tempered system, and for
whole-tone scales, there are only two, and in both cases, the pitch
between each step is equal.

            Rainer


--0-149218749-1248546010=:2341-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 18:21:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 120903BE89; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:21:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pCgYT5B417rS/rNECrwVDuI9XU+wQyRF4n1Ck89PsvU=; b=Mq4ArVy6cLlBeaHdTtqhc8ZySCseIuPU4aBVWefu8RoVg6T5A6hwYhjRyjQsDDlMU1 W70kUSN/ugKCFkgJ3hdplAXfHTYLd9rztnMMqtceE42EHEfQDRcJbJKSbw9Sl0Ko0u48 q661R1evqkJmzz88kut38uerFXwhuBpdlIzAE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Xh84maBowTzZjgC1PDjGZcWDxqQvhLk+lDKKmO4J/C4ZrajRG7+BSlzKLA3gQnFu6l cdcrR5w2ljjJ27diFNruGfXsra/KKgsLNh/w9W2449461JhfE9JFpzBRHLvsGSaWaV8w UVROc8CkpC3LIyQkrSpKbj0Gv5BstA9fKj4b8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907250025w9d222c4xa1795d82e2c61a9b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A69AD9E.6030401@cruzio.com> <4A69B9EF.7050009@het.it> <9AE7C6BA-3964-4766-9BB8-1EA2EBE8AE6E@gmail.com> <9e0440a60907242325q469b5252k58d53e9c51878ed5@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907250025w9d222c4xa1795d82e2c61a9b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:21:19 -0400 Message-ID: <939a769e0907251121p7f8b61b0m62a89daf11598b48@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: online real time looping sequencer game From: Rus Steel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:21:20 +0000 (UTC) > Same goes for the iPhone apps... forgive my ignorance, Im the only person in > Oslo without one but is there some way of triggering midi from the iBone? > And using the accelarometer? > > I would LOVE a iPhone app that had a 16 by 16 touch buttons sequencer... > > m You might have a look at TouchOSC. Seems like a lot of fun. But I haven't played with it myself. (I'm probably the only person in NYC without and iPhone, so I feel your pain.) http://hexler.net/software/touchosc P.S. Long time lurker, first time poster. Hi everyone! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 18:23:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80EF03BE84; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ZD8788re0826deASm3kWFh9MJjl+aPvDY6REbt079PcX9HVx61iWcu68MsAnb6i8; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: <52F2883C-1293-4BF4-B24E-83960156F332@earthlink.net> From: joe cavaleri To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--343917028 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: living without money(O.T.) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:23:42 -0700 References: <925650.60501.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-ELNK-Trace: 573b2ac3a2420bc9f258f48946e2642d9ef193a6bfc3dd4894eccf257151d701b025a0d0c83bbb25a26b888b88ba812a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 99.61.50.175 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:23:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--343917028 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Suggested reading: Confessions of a Economic Hit Man by John Perkins > > I remember trick-or-treating for UNICEF when I was 5. 40 years later > the problem only seems worse. --Apple-Mail-2--343917028 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Suggested reading: 

Confessions of a Economic Hit Man 
by John Perkins


I remember trick-or-treating for UNICEF when I was 5.  40 years later
the problem only seems worse.
--Apple-Mail-2--343917028-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 18:33:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76E0C3BE94; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:33:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VXDpcOZz58VQCC3cMFlsWZ8uwq68mSP0+tdYjlJS/UM=; b=ImWLh6CrYqjWuDWfBlKKSjOl8YzDquLdFlZ+YaKPCYtSVmpnWgdujnjYj8wHlPY6Ph Ges/NdZ8pwau84J3bR4qEwOtmBFH5Cc/GgU0GZ/t0g07f61oWoEj/c2LmRj6OI3zUwTQ vkBHYLccAO8ek+dGtlxvDdJCj0U1XlX98PJB4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Mz9Jwxid2O0Z+jR+5nJ6ynjVdg6C3rR+IxuCrYrXa0w6MZz+/VG4911d5lptfV1v5j ORZtc4b58QaIdV5uuqf+tCtSeLJwNXCIauH7QHZ3riZwtjYhA+n/TXNYvNsuE6URMP+K DvvoZGbPeoxztmz7z9Quxyhfw2QxJnHjcRCUA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <602885.80983.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20090724072517.59030@gmx.net> <292609.14648.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A6ADF5F.50207@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0907250802j35aef927u7f2508cb06562664@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B2B33.7000603@tiscali.co.uk> <602885.80983.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:33:26 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907251133j1c5e6eb7o4ab184f6a0f303e9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:33:27 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:15 PM, margaret noble wrote: > in comes an acoustic instrument, out goes a 4 part delay, each part is in > different semi-tones, the fist delay sound is the same pitch as original, > the second delay sound is up 4 semi-tones, the third sound is up 7 > semi-tones up and the fourth sound is u 11 semi-tones up. So, a nice melodic > sequence comes out when only one note is hit. play more than one and it gets > busy and a bit unpleasant tonally. I would to configure the melodic delay in > such a way so i can improvise a few notes and get some nice harmonies. i am > thinking obvious that less pitch shifts are better but i am wondering if > their are particular values of pitch shifts that are safer for playing. > > make more sense? Sure, totally making sense! But it's a difficult question, not knowing what harmonies you like. Why not do it the other way; start with a couple of nice chords and then explore what harmonizer intervals will create them out of one input note? You could save different channel strip presets containing harmonizers and delays set up to generate specific chord you like, then if you save them as Performances (done from the channel strip menu) you will be able to activate them by a foot pedal sending in MIDI Program Change to the computer. PC1 calling up saved Performance 1, PC2 calling up saved Performance 2 etc. In this context your floor pedal board becomes a instant "chord fix shifter" for Logic. "Performances" are hardwired to be recalled by incoming MIDI Program Change, no matter what MIDI channel or port they come in through. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 18:35:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F7B53BEA9; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:35:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y3toUZHu3i4+ZlzdlnjRhKEDtmfelEEVYi8JdQa86fE=; b=ufal4Nklw2q/Ht61+9OPiDxEg1zd45uAuat40PcCkuYHohi0Af2H5H94Mx8toS+Jxj r57j+w0NQiXYt8Wy+ZCGP2gy3+4WPchvjFJWLImFIgQA2P3X+hz9GmJct7SdhWXT6mEf 6DBBD7tv4y/cRvr5ozi2gItz8cad3wdHoEK4A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GiB61WFtL7Xk3nA/TTkMKt6kxTdiAaP6zo5JqXqf1irXLopfbKZAtWfWsYqIu/HXkF EY0kkf+uQPqTWDeCEw8ZISqQ8BxfqLSs6n3tnHyHw2JkyinFBNm7jOlCwFpVfxRj/RiO h1GJO8VIVG9PsPCDMhGg6NPlZOnHpHoLTFNxE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <939a769e0907251121p7f8b61b0m62a89daf11598b48@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A69AD9E.6030401@cruzio.com> <4A69B9EF.7050009@het.it> <9AE7C6BA-3964-4766-9BB8-1EA2EBE8AE6E@gmail.com> <9e0440a60907242325q469b5252k58d53e9c51878ed5@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907250025w9d222c4xa1795d82e2c61a9b@mail.gmail.com> <939a769e0907251121p7f8b61b0m62a89daf11598b48@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:35:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: online real time looping sequencer game From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:35:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rus! Yeah, things ike TouchOSC seem super cool... but more gimmicky than anything else.. ultimately, is the iPhone a good UI for music/audio? If it were 4x the screen size maybe... I can't imagine doing all that much with it, though it can make for a compelling youtube video. My current "dream/goal" is to supplement my monitor with a second monitor that's a touchscreen. Now that'll be something. I've got a lot of cool software that's got all kinds of xy and grid style UI things going on, but little in the way of usefully being able to use it. I looked into the HP Touchsmart computers, but they seemed to double the cost of the computer you were buying. On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Rus Steel wrote: >> Same goes for the iPhone apps... forgive my ignorance, Im the only perso= n in >> Oslo without one but is there some way of triggering midi from the iBone= ? >> And using the accelarometer? >> >> I would LOVE a iPhone app that had a 16 by 16 touch buttons sequencer... >> >> m > > You might have a look at TouchOSC. =A0Seems like a lot of fun. =A0But I > haven't played with it myself. =A0(I'm probably the only person in NYC > without and iPhone, so I feel your pain.) > > http://hexler.net/software/touchosc > > P.S. =A0Long time lurker, first time poster. =A0Hi everyone! > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 18:38:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D786F3BEBE; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:38:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 231980947/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.152.111/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.152.111 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgMCACzuakpPRphv/2dsb2JhbAAIz0yEDQWJfg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,269,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="231980947" Message-ID: <4A6B54C1.60904@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:53:53 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody References: <20090724072517.59030@gmx.net> <292609.14648.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A6ADF5F.50207@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0907250802j35aef927u7f2508cb06562664@mail.gmail.com> <4A6B2B33.7000603@tiscali.co.uk> <602885.80983.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <602885.80983.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:38:46 +0000 (UTC) ahh, that's exactly what I thought you meant, so hopefully my reply made sense to you, ...if not to the other guys andy margaret noble wrote: > sorry, i wrote that confusingly!!! > > i mean: > > in comes an acoustic instrument, out goes a 4 part delay, each part is > in different semi-tones, the fist delay sound is the same pitch as > original, the second delay sound is up 4 semi-tones, the third sound is > up 7 semi-tones up and the fourth sound is u 11 semi-tones up. So, a > nice melodic sequence comes out when only one note is hit. play more > than one and it gets busy and a bit unpleasant tonally. I would to > configure the melodic delay in such a way so i can improvise a few notes > and get some nice harmonies. i am thinking obvious that less pitch > shifts are better but i am wondering if their are particular values of > pitch shifts that are safer for playing. > > make more sense? > > > > http://margaretnoble.net/ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* andy butler > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:56:35 AM > *Subject:* Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody > > just trying to follow Margaret's made up notation. > Not sure I managed that tho'. > > It's a perfect 4th up, > (or a perfect 5th), > with a 2 beat delay, > > mixed with the undelayed dry signal. > > > I used to prefer the 4th because my Zoom 1201 sounded > a bit flat when trying to do a larger stretch tan that. > > It was a lot of fun to play guitar into that. > > andy > > > mark francombe wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:33 PM, andy butler >> wrote: > > > > hi Margaret, > > > > 2. 5 steps up > > > > > > HUH.. sorry... what do you mean Andy.. 2.5 steps?? steps ?? > > > > 2 and a half whats??? > > > > MArk > > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com > >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 19:42:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 627EF3BE84; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1248550939; bh=r7S8aGuOEsvgYBvkjMH5YPBbGH8uKPK/H/7cm/wkUN8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ifgalNXLH3Uc54JPhNwtj0+ZjvuIcm6+mDTxfGYLEoM9qhoNroeucyR/m4T7TsO9n9o+cK2FEkAwpAwe/BXSdECW4xBYov+DvFHelG9BIFE+Tkgoz2tA4p6dh8baRYmEX6uUZN/mMTne0KvrJH8l5Ihuxg8Cdl0KX/c9NnGP7Vs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UDo9+rPL22fHi79+NYnvWhpG7oUA4EysOOEaVSqxyEV0Z2oo6as+T88Ia19d9Z9aQgujLAnLUXnYXeKWwqQkgULQ2nU4HMnnDUJBwPGxRDz3MXY04HC/JNx4iGlXs8ogbMEGXXwuilOEP8wn0CDYmOvzfjHmlM9dheodKHBT6AA=; Message-ID: <926617.27021.qm@web24612.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: bJZrq6IVM1mOyVKjgF8bZbrCKiHAFdjjqAuGe2ZtRtof4u5YIkUIpDTs X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:42:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Cripes, how do you program that using hardware?=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/sylvia= nfisher=0A=0A=0A--- On Sat, 25/7/09, andy butler w= rote:=0A=0A> From: andy butler =0A> Subject: Re: Mo= re Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers= -delight.com=0A> Date: Saturday, 25 July, 2009, 6:53 PM=0A> ahh,=0A> that's= exactly what I thought you meant,=0A> so hopefully my reply made sense to = you,=0A> ...if not to the other guys=0A> =0A> =0A> andy=0A> =0A> margaret n= oble wrote:=0A> > sorry, i wrote that confusingly!!!=0A> > =0A> > i mean:= =0A> > =0A> > in comes an acoustic instrument, out goes a 4 part=0A> delay,= each part is in different semi-tones, the fist delay=0A> sound is the same= pitch as original, the second delay sound=0A> is up 4 semi-tones, the thir= d sound is up 7 semi-tones up=0A> and the fourth sound is u 11 semi-tones u= p. So, a nice=0A> melodic sequence comes out when only one note is hit. pla= y=0A> more than one and it gets busy and a bit unpleasant tonally.=0A> I wo= uld to configure the melodic delay in such a way so i=0A> can improvise a f= ew notes and get some nice harmonies. i am=0A> thinking obvious that less p= itch shifts are better but i am=0A> wondering if their are particular value= s of pitch shifts=0A> that are safer for playing.=0A> > =0A> > make more se= nse?=0A> > =0A> > =0A> >=A0 http://mar= garetnoble.net/=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> >=0A> ---------------------= ---------------------------------------------------=0A> > *From:* andy butl= er =0A> > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com= =0A> > *Sent:* Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:56:35 AM=0A> > *Subject:* Re: More= Tonal Theory:=0A> Arppegiators/Accent/Melody=0A> > =0A> > just trying to f= ollow Margaret's made up notation.=0A> > Not sure I managed that tho'.=0A> = > =0A> > It's a perfect 4th up,=0A> > (or a perfect 5th),=0A> > with a 2 be= at delay,=0A> > =0A> > mixed with the undelayed dry signal.=0A> > =0A> > = =0A> > I used to prefer the 4th because my Zoom 1201 sounded=0A> > a bit fl= at when trying to do a larger stretch tan=0A> that.=0A> > =0A> > It was a l= ot of fun to play guitar into that.=0A> > =0A> > andy=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > m= ark francombe wrote:=0A> >=A0 >=0A> >=A0 > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:33 PM= , andy=0A> butler =0A> >>= =0A> wrote:=0A> >=A0 >=0A> >=A0 >=A0 =A0 hi Margaret,=0A> >=A0 >=0A> >=A0 >= =A0 =A0 2. 5 steps up=0A> >=A0 >=0A> >=A0 >=0A> >=A0 > HUH.. sorry... what = do you mean Andy.. 2.5=0A> steps?? steps ??=0A> >=A0 >=0A> >=A0 > 2 and a h= alf whats???=0A> >=A0 >=0A> >=A0 > MArk=0A> >=A0 >=0A> >=A0 > -- www.markfr= ancombe.com = =0A> >>=A0 http://vimeo.com/user825094=0A> >>=A0 http://uk.youtube.com/user= /markfrancombe=0A> >>=A0 http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe=0A> >>=A0 htt= p://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch=0A> > =0A> > =0A= > =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 19:49:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9A353BE7F; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1248551342; bh=oAGxgmGPUxSTzRnHiUY3hO9GC7Bvt+tAnNvlTAhboVA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=BGq+BqGzuc0VroQBdelMxQWRey9kUgYziUlrbZgh40zbkh6qwqUcsOvoZUe/SNR2hZg7cEMUjYeXkkiucv74TJkuaPRF+fSA/wvRXeMpk+XTQbz22X9SNL1551+u+fJ3wag5xoJ3ss38RWH4DNqwvC6pmcohIX4agoUEP/DShqE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pLbKrpwLUIKZ3dN0F30AXuiobg1jXJKisjQ9bWX0oYkcP+NSi870icykNpdwcrzCxpMYlrBzwqvWx+B/RJPtDhkvPmnTlirSemDJTw7iEC0vBXztYPO3DFkAC+F7sb2KcWCoEfyqNSHcp6IAZjBXs95ak5MJdH8LgmyWvpKLAT8=; Message-ID: <558769.32588.qm@web24604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7ywv2VUVM1k1ExKOlgIC77zlmwbIgBIVNKYWNUjadI.DdxKfsr2BighAs9G5eLKoPL2xZIM_xfjX2ScY4Cb915ebtiu.sZgzlN94UUv4FPMhZ8ERp9VQSQuGxt_Lhst5Kfv0XmWIRY6lDMm3LliAFN2_DY5GDFGGdTyrmWLBkhUicmsiwricblXuhaRlqtpHIc_LKxhqVERWuNdC9Za4yxX_TOldU14bbWYwpfAMUDje6oY25TgvPRmzfvf.kOM5d7FQUtfZbcCkLpqd.Y0HPHf7TFfZvQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:49:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:49:03 +0000 (UTC) by the way, really nice website, Margaret=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/sylvianfishe= r=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 20:09:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 405613BE86; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NmdVim8TphMdVfznT0pA+yHKcvyi+X1GUTvPcMgJ+B8=; b=yGzDpWl/T5zrIIq63XMoBCXk0a6WwS/iK31bElfean9jVeCvccAyt9A6viD9GtCJpY 1EN60/e5VTVZkkUMicbxI9FKXxnxKS3k49XLWDXjIZMXljkf5PqmlARtNGadU8QGu5HT LvmGt3iq9o2gXU3SgHg823DDiQKr03X/y36pQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=abE/UhurOUoJ8NzXjaWnEUZ8TR8MtvTLaTPAMF0EDVa5v1TvZ67UEldjPIVuxttwgU jUe5QefISy4zXjD11j5G0mYcIuaT9qKHbsNbS9oRBkJVgQyzvb5vo78nh8qCiDVdb862 yhUqA0zBZUB+AJPnIlvNIdVlSV/21ZNo5xxz0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:09:10 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907251309q419e6f84ne6ad53911315b399@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:09:12 +0000 (UTC) About Margaret's pitch-shifted delays, Stephen Scott said: > Cripes, how do you program that using hardware? Nearly twenty years ago, I got my first effector, a Boss SE-50. It had an algorithm called "Multi Pitch Shifter" which gave you four delay taps, each followed by a pitch shifter. Which means: it could do that - and all of my multi-effects since could/can do that, too without any fuss. Or didn't I get your question right? Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 21:38:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 696453BE7C; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:38:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=wzN9g3vYklv1PriY7S7uyU7D5ZZxoyJPd2/9QZSDYBs=; b=GYKcvL8N1FgvkyAbNU3LZ94cASfIn728OgX+AMtRZLwcV4slOqwtl47GnGumfbxtSn QelRYz5nt/iNIJIIiUnwNV+YVABXPE+fVBAF9/Fl+EzegAHMzcy6fQnkNQDXrjFQ1VCB A2zJrmtjR1LFDFxM3ga5LQ6Bmlo+o3zduyFHg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=x4srqR3znQc9Xn7txmVaDpC01WEZPeY4q9OX/+wR6YuZWD0TNZljOtkE6utx2tBn+I 3ZdH4mQCBm6jt6wJ6bmuAgiJzQho0EnTmfKUWS6k1eV9dPgUCr4fkAkNN2v7a2Dyq7/k i50qy2HgtfwN88HNXxNmfe0zT6fKSXTdID3pM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <558769.32588.qm@web24604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <558769.32588.qm@web24604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:38:08 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6cc0e3f701c4ad94 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907251438o13403be9y1891ad2bdf5001ce@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174beb1897def8046f8e8a16 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:38:29 +0000 (UTC) --0015174beb1897def8046f8e8a16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nice LOOKING website Margeret.. (personally... links that I have to hover over to find out what lies underneath is a bit of a no no!!) Mark (old fuddy duddy ) francombe On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Stephen Scott wrote: > > by the way, really nice website, Margaret > > www.myspace.com/sylvianfisher > > > > > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174beb1897def8046f8e8a16 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nice LOOKING website Margeret.. (personally... links that I have to hover o= ver to find out what lies underneath is a bit of a no no!!)

Mark (o= ld fuddy duddy ) francombe

On Sat, Jul 25= , 2009 at 9:49 PM, Stephen Scott <loopingsteve@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

by the way, really nice website, Margaret

www.mysp= ace.com/sylvianfisher









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www.markfrancombe.com
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http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
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--0015174beb1897def8046f8e8a16-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 21:43:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 490973BE85; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=A56pPxTm6noMpE5l31ExE3qi8KpHjCk7n8DyEBAZUPM=; b=XXRvhraoDiSYe0ZPsb9gSleljVJv1W54vVodacD1dR6eb1GDgO28y99RJGDRAmaiKI eJcre5dxVD7X4zs6A2/huFvc0J/sNQ36iXroyQS/6+rEOTP34HXZ0qhe+V1u9qPkKJjX 71IhRVC/AhvtqQnyENbkbCTW3gU4X56YZLqrg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=WPKcWc/CBnxLepFsR7AsMm3wWWTlvL4uJEAa5nAYkHwQlvYRj+FUJDP/WLZzEt1rwt 2AgxvUAkwqmPfl1hJo5FZ8ZOAeW/lEGfY7ojBxi8OJ8+rWvaHvoizmHztlE6XvefEOcN bZOrXOTk/LeLNw3TCm5MF6AaAZoE1K52LdXhU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0907241254m39786b59l6289c52b32b87e31@mail.gmail.com> <4A6AE643.1050506@tiscali.co.uk> <9ab0c76f0907250758r28ce4453w96620d41cb8a1e54@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907250813i514ac27fx3c8c352813908b55@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:43:16 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 165b89b8acc72928 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907251443t1193cbc4jdb6567d823549680@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: mailing list rules (was: Re: online real time looping sequencer game) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be5e2f3ed57046f8e9c4a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:43:37 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be5e2f3ed57046f8e9c4a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Attached images are also extra taxing on the email server and someone > (Kim) is paying for the bandwidth, so that's another reason to not use > html emails. > Does one really pay for bandwidth nowadays??? Not me. and I have 50 gigs of various webspaces and 20 odd domains running.. of course server bandwidth can be a prob for stability and such like, but all my servers are running streaming flash movies.. so THATS an issue... Im sure the odd 14k sig image means nowt.... still iritating to thise that get to see the html tho... bless 'em.. m --0015174be5e2f3ed57046f8e9c4a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Mark So= ttilaro <zer= ocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:
Attached images are also extra taxing on the email server and someone
(Kim) is paying for the bandwidth, so that's another reason to not use<= br> html emails.

Does one really pay for bandwid= th nowadays??? Not me. and I have 50 gigs of various webspaces and 20 odd d= omains running.. of course server bandwidth can be a prob for stability and= such like, but all my servers are running streaming flash movies.. so THAT= S an issue...

Im sure the odd 14k sig image means nowt.... still iritating to thise t= hat get to see the html tho... bless 'em..


m
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--0015174be5e2f3ed57046f8e9c4a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 21:53:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54BA23BE82; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=fzehevyvI9p/VJuTDIP8Rf4RhVScSySZ3aZWrNnQr9E=; b=cw9SLHwTTzg5NrGRpgcT0HbAWHczCv0V+uKBsNGDTr2NfLbfxnZdYMjpo45QHET66b mT5KVASkDJ96wkBVZhHjraA3ChwQY16N6wrr1oKsxEN+J+rySvMpMx/1BzjIKkNIIGr4 wAt89eaO6RrI6A0rO5qWOqKdmUbdqQrnbPIZk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=cqxebdMQj50Anay6Nx6+3/shwBtRA12wn7MzwohyUo9SMaJXlpJRLHytJMOwHiRo3R /49+s61Ein5xG2GK2Hi7S8zjR+IzdP2L2DB2YEnpz61Dtl2lI3nTvLUH0bYUzTS0cNNG oI1muPIyqVqWFuFs4JBiI3dAX24R7ZRP1lcgo= Message-Id: From: Ariel Rzezak To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:53:35 -0300 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:53:41 +0000 (UTC) The looper plug-in of Mainstage 2. http://vimeo.com/5758671 Very best from Argentina, Ariel. El 24/07/2009, a las 11:41, Sjaak escribi=F3: > >> The question is: Do you rely on Logic to earn your living? Would you >> risk that on speculating that it will work perfectly from version =20 >> 9.0? >> Now they have announced Logic 9... logic 8 is still broken... > > Hi Charles, > I don't rely on Logic for a living. I use Mainstage as my host on =20 > stage and I use a little bit of Logic at home. Sure, Logic 8 had a =20 > few problems but for me nothing major and as long as I have a =20 > workaround, I'm fine. > --- > Sjaak > http://euroloopfest.com/ > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > > > __________________________________ > Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One =20 > of ADSL, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 21:54:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BAF23BE85; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 mail-in-08.arcor-online.net 748622AEA87 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1248558866; bh=luhwJE/87rBH+DDT2vRfpcOzFLwTV0KStMpjw4NNrwc=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id; b=gZTxpxtDYoOxnM5GiqpCdkwMLydWKELNNl6PlldXvCb0AMC9lie+Cn1OVPzFOGjO2 FkGeGxo0npbokGJvrsJDpuQvaHGD6ruJWwWG9XG+pYRrxYsDilwzdLgsxTEb0i5fui PVvh2O3DkHaP4iYt6QNiM92em7PJNLJHk2JG7DBY= From: michelemoser@arcor.de To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?AW:_Re:_mailing_list_rules_(was:_Re:_online_real_t?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ime_looping_sequencergame)?= Date: 25 Jul 2009 23:54:19 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Message-Id: <20090725215422.748622AEA87@mail-in-08.arcor-online.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:54:28 +0000 (UTC) I noticed! Actually, they are very annoying, especialy if you are downloading emails= via mobile, iphone or blackberry=2E So please stick to the rules and send plain text and no pictures=2E ---- Originalnachricht ----=20 Von: andy butler Gesendet: 25 Jul 2009 10:47 +00:00 An: Betreff: Re: mailing list rules (was: Re: online real time looping sequen= cergame) Hi Massimo, if you can, it *would* help if you can post in plain text to the list (switching off HTML in your email software for these posts)=2E There's actually good reason for this, as=20 a number of people still use the digest version of the list which is often rendered illegible by an HTML post=2E =2E=2E=2Ebut please ignore the tone of Rainer's post,=20 I'm sure most LDers didn't even notice your sig=2E andy butler Rainer Straschill wrote: > Massimo, >=20 > may I remind you of the mailing list rules as posted on > www=2Eloopers-delight=2Ecom, of which I take the liberty to quote: > "Are there posting guidelines for the Looper's Delight Mailing list=3F >=20 > Please set your mail program to use plain text when posting to > Looper's Delight=2E" >=20 > While big signatures are very annoying in general, they are especially > so if they come with graphics=2E >=20 > If that is not for you, you may consider posting to the forum instead= =2E >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Rainer >=20 >=20 From info@w.cn Sat Jul 25 22:04:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 35377 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:04:48 UTC Received: from mailer.eun.eg (MAILER.EUN.EG [193.227.1.3]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A54F3BE7F; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailer.eun.eg (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mailer.eun.eg (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id n6OL26Ci012490; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:02:10 +0300 (EEST) Received: from 41.220.75.16 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mmawahab) by 127.0.0.1 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:02:49 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <57339.41.220.75.16.1248469369.squirrel@127.0.0.1> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:02:49 +0300 (EEST) Subject: From: "DHL COURIER COMPANY" Reply-To: dhldelivery_service1@w.cn User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4-rc1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; I wish to notify you that you have a bank draft of ($500,000USD) with us (DHL COURIER COMPANY)Contact: Mr. Martin White Email Address: dhldelivery_service1@w.cn Telephone: (+234)-70313-31256 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 22:36:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 706543BE7F; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: References: <603C4377-64F6-4538-B4AF-F6AA0F3750BC@laurelmurphy.com> <995b11efe76b6af909302c6130348c4d.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody From: looppool@cruzio.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Here's a really nice short .pdf appraisal of Oliver Messiaen's life and work and has a fascinating list and practical discussion of the application of his 'modes of limited transposition'. http://www.musicteachers.co.uk/resources/messstudy.pdf From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jul 25 22:39:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E69DE3BE89; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Cc: MARGARET NOBLE Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907251438o13403be9y1891ad2bdf5001ce@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:39:09 -0700 References: <558769.32588.qm@web24604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907251438o13403be9y1891ad2bdf5001ce@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Margaret, I love your website BECAUSE it demands interactivity . . . and it looks sharp too, besides. I've always thought so (though I may never have said so previously). I'm an ad agency art director (besides being just another dumb guitarist). I just thought I'd share an alternate opinion on your site. I may be old . . . ad quite probably duddy . . . I'm but not fuddy in the least. Cheers, Ted On Jul 25, 2009, at 2:38 PM, mark francombe wrote: > nice LOOKING website Margeret.. (personally... links that I have to > hover over to find out what lies underneath is a bit of a no no!!) > > Mark (old fuddy duddy ) francombe > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Stephen Scott > wrote: > > by the way, really nice website, Margaret > > www.myspace.com/sylvianfisher > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 00:37:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB7443BE85; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:37:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=G9LA+UrT9V5NMKagetK/Ayxp4pyKbt4vcxMsHPkIATc=; b=d2cXHOpKUL3Z/RAZ92KqYxpckRwhVGATOZANytUvheYAu92O2F1JngEJ+/U+1V4mPM Bt9DlZwp2sKIfMbVqsft/+F4qgjV0sMmW/h0jY19rvDpcO2+K/aNhq16nMXCDyHFlAiS 94yck5yxyX/+ys00cfZorGtj3Jw8ZxB2hQR/w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vTClLxj7IytDUqOqvFymruTaH+QVf/DLIYsMrKHeqaOrjWOYARHWEYU54CrF9lNkA0 wS3D8sPnF7oDEjNeO+vvxc6OTna/7lLy0q+UfF5o2IgDuk8TC0zC1/2RGVq1P69uRjjl 2dJeKgP+gk3URBZBCTp1pz8jrBPpwkycSyErg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> References: <603C4377-64F6-4538-B4AF-F6AA0F3750BC@laurelmurphy.com> <995b11efe76b6af909302c6130348c4d.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:37:26 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907251737k4bbaa1c3o94fd29e3effa70f6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:37:27 +0000 (UTC) It just entered my mind that the arpeggiating Margret is setting up in Logic can be done all within the plug-in Cross Fade Loop Synth by Expert Sleepers. This plug-in in fact is three delays that can be pitch/rate shifted into any semi tone intervals. The higher you set the pitch the faster that note will bounce back. You can set them all to different intervals than the source not you feed them so there will be a four harmony chord including the your played note. Although this plug-in works well in any host, Logic especially makes Margeret's practices easier. The trick should be to open the plug-in and save different harmony settings as presets of Logic's preset system ("save preset as", in the plug-in window). Next step is to use some physical MIDI controller, maybe a MIDI pedal, to trigger the two Logic commands "Next Plug-in Preset" and "Previous Plug-in Preset". Given you keep the Cross Fade Loop Synth plug-in window open it will switch presets and the same bouncing note will take on new "chord harmonies" with every new preset you kick in. This plug-in sounds a lot better than the PitchShifter 2 of Logic's. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 02:02:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C3343BE88; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MNNSc19pRHVjskzoQQzJ9WLbdgwRsk4xQFFBdhzApUM=; b=j4nQNHwSGYp1vub/SvgCwXsUH4jzZAGYdNpEZ8NbnCjFngbi9iiFjr6xNL/PaNYcW9 R2XL8Ei9X4BTfjeJYHb6H7FA9vkY974sdn+3d0masFDop5Q5iBn++OufqDl5kqIre+LA 5YOAQYt3ISduy6I7kk9vGUl66keSDpoNr1hdQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ezdI79fmrn3MR169FnhJazI2usvTnMcPBWPWLv+E2uUXVQjlbFpNj3VWtmeDgA7gdX diY24r1zsC5o7dqvaH6S0YePI3D6n/ev8lPJx5Xs5LPu3+BntUb3/nsw+gJVJ8iDm+v1 x6Dktg2Mk9A2Afm1+U6IwpLG9IRBO13g2Be9c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20090725215422.748622AEA87@mail-in-08.arcor-online.net> References: <20090725215422.748622AEA87@mail-in-08.arcor-online.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:02:54 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 23431b0c662d913f Message-ID: <101191640907251902y5351ee21y57f250f36174c76a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: mailing list rules (was: Re: online real time looping sequencergame) From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5d8VUC.A.VlB.Sl7aKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:02:58 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 6:54 PM, wrote: > > I noticed! > Actually, they are very annoying, especialy if you are downloading emails via mobile, iphone or blackberry. > So please stick to the rules and send plain text and no pictures. > why would anyone download an email? :-) just kidding, but those rules are like from 20 years ago. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 02:44:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 118723BE86; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'margaret noble'" , References: <602885.80983.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:43:59 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA0D60.4425F440" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoNkxT0+IuwBIiDSIGTUGy5mkThxgAAKGDA In-Reply-To: <602885.80983.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:44:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA0D60.4425F440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would try experimenting with combinations of 5th up (7semitones) and = 4th below (5 semitones), delaying the two intervals to separate note values = and tapping in a desired tempo if your processor or plug-in allows you to. = Try =BC note against a dotted 1/8th as an example to create a nice syncopation. = If your device only reads delay values in milliseconds, try setting one = pitch to 350 milliseconds and one to 450 milliseconds and fine tune them to achieve the same effect, a galloping interval=20 With parallel harmonizers I find the more neutral the interval the = better so I avoid 3rds and 7ths, opting for 5ths, octaves, 4ths. 9ths and sometimes 6ths. I avoid using feedback unless I=92m going for the = cascading interval effect, which works great on 5ths and octaves, as well as 2nds = and #5ths . Also if you can get longer delay times between intervals you can = use more than two pitches, ones like you are using now, but have more time = to improvise more notes before the pitch shifted delays kick in. And yes I think you are on the right track simply using fewer pitches. Even the = idea at the top of my post is limiting in what one can play and still sound consonant.=20 Bill =20 _____ =20 From: margaret noble [mailto:margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 11:15 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody =20 sorry, i wrote that confusingly!!! i mean: in comes an acoustic instrument, out goes a 4 part delay, each part is = in different semi-tones, the fist delay sound is the same pitch as = original, the second delay sound is up 4 semi-tones, the third sound is up 7 semi-tones up and the fourth sound is u 11 semi-tones up. So, a nice = melodic sequence comes out when only one note is hit. play more than one and it = gets busy and a bit unpleasant tonally. I would to configure the melodic = delay in such a way so i can improvise a few notes and get some nice harmonies. i = am thinking obvious that less pitch shifts are better but i am wondering if their are particular values of pitch shifts that are safer for playing. make more sense? =20 http://margaretnoble.net/ =20 =20 _____ =20 From: andy butler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:56:35 AM Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody just trying to follow Margaret's made up notation. Not sure I managed that tho'. It's a perfect 4th up, (or a perfect 5th), with a 2 beat delay, mixed with the undelayed dry signal. I used to prefer the 4th because my Zoom 1201 sounded a bit flat when trying to do a larger stretch tan that. It was a lot of fun to play guitar into that. andy mark francombe wrote: >=20 > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:33 PM, andy butler > wrote: >=20 > hi Margaret, >=20 > 2. 5 steps up >=20 >=20 > HUH.. sorry... what do you mean Andy.. 2.5 steps?? steps ?? >=20 > 2 and a half whats??? >=20 > MArk >=20 > -- www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA0D60.4425F440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I would try experimenting with = combinations of 5th up (7semitones) and 4th below (5 = semitones), =A0delaying the two intervals to separate note values and tapping in a desired tempo = if your processor or plug-in allows you to. Try =BC note against a dotted = 1/8th as an example to create a nice syncopation. If your device only reads = delay values in milliseconds, try setting one pitch to 350 milliseconds and one to = 450 milliseconds and fine tune them to achieve the same effect, a galloping interval

=A0With parallel harmonizers I find = the more neutral the interval the better so I avoid 3rds and 7ths, opting for = 5ths, octaves, 4ths. 9ths =A0and sometimes 6ths.=A0 I avoid using feedback = unless I’m going for the cascading interval effect, which works great on 5ths and = octaves, as well as 2nds and #5ths . Also if you can get longer delay times = between intervals you can use more than two pitches, =A0ones like you are using = now, =A0but have more time to improvise more notes before the pitch shifted delays = kick in. And yes I think you are on the right track simply using fewer pitches. = Even the idea at the top of my post is limiting in what one can play and still = sound consonant.

Bill

 

From: = margaret noble [mailto:margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 25, = 2009 11:15 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: More Tonal = Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody

 

sorry, i wrote that = confusingly!!!

i mean:

in comes an acoustic instrument, out goes a 4 part delay, each part is = in different semi-tones, the fist delay sound is the same pitch as = original, the second delay sound is up 4 semi-tones, the third sound is up 7 = semi-tones up and the fourth sound is u 11 semi-tones up. So, a nice melodic sequence = comes out when only one note is hit. play more than one and it gets busy and a = bit unpleasant tonally. I would to configure the melodic delay in such a way = so i can improvise a few notes and get some nice harmonies. i am thinking = obvious that less pitch shifts are better but i am wondering if their are = particular values of pitch shifts that are safer for playing.

make more sense?

 

http://margaretnoble.net/

 

 

From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Saturday, July 25, = 2009 8:56:35 AM
Subject: Re: More Tonal = Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody

just trying to follow Margaret's made up notation.
Not sure I managed that tho'.

It's a perfect 4th up,
(or a perfect 5th),
with a 2 beat delay,

mixed with the undelayed dry signal.


I used to prefer the 4th because my Zoom 1201 sounded
a bit flat when trying to do a larger stretch tan that.

It was a lot of fun to play guitar into that.

andy


mark francombe wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:33 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk <mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>&= gt; wrote:
>
>    hi Margaret,
>
>    2. 5 steps up
>
>
> HUH.. sorry... what do you mean Andy.. 2.5 steps?? steps ??
>
> 2 and a half whats???
>
> MArk
>
> -- www.markfrancombe.com <http://www.markfrancombe.com>
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%2= 0Synch

 

------=_NextPart_000_0035_01CA0D60.4425F440-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 08:05:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B1B83BE8A; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:05:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 236124954/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.187.74/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.187.74 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al4BAIOra0pPTrtK/2dsb2JhbAAIzXGEDQWJfg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,271,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="236124954" Message-ID: <4A6C11D2.4020107@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:20:34 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody References: <603C4377-64F6-4538-B4AF-F6AA0F3750BC@laurelmurphy.com> <995b11efe76b6af909302c6130348c4d.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:05:24 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Rick, very nice. Additionally he had a technique where he would have a a rhythm pattern, and a chord sequence ( or single note??). The chords would be repeatedly played in the pattern, but as the number of chords didn't match the number of notes in the rhythm it would be some time before there was exact repetition. andt looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > Here's a really nice short .pdf appraisal of > Oliver Messiaen's life and work and has > a fascinating list and practical discussion of the application of his > 'modes of limited transposition'. > > http://www.musicteachers.co.uk/resources/messstudy.pdf > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 08:49:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4D3A3BE8A; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:49:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GNjS+/+7geW3qZiVhSseFB2/7+QiWiy5vdxpvmw/cmk=; b=SThoz87oQohpxmmN+ejBnyX8hH9iLY6ZtMFIB2xYMCnXvtAyg00oLw8a/XZ+M11iHW I6yA9dIYrEjqauNtc1SppHHRDW+IMUFFQ3lmweHOe5nTjbTCIZD+hrUPcnXJVS0I0QTo 2HrvILohmep2VZqQw63VXNWKIoiImh3UynBRo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=SWstZG6qmP3aD4Gfn0Bg3IssxsSePz90xFCH71DOSME75Vs70EqwAFVLr9SLFHjg8M Q4NmxKtw1MM3u/CGC4IsQjDM9iFukHhjrYmjiLkAN2XLIDLH2e22E2aM/EIRjZyS7S2T Nef8ScwepKFyVANRFj3V9zIiWuuCfPycJ1vqI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:49:38 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60907260149m6a2f0039p21e54711cb93437c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: VirtualGigSpam: Sunday Morning @ 11 From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:49:39 +0000 (UTC) I'm going to do my live webcast series this morning at 11am EST. The url is http;//www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11. Tines - 8am PST, 9am MST, 10am PST. 11am EST, 4pm UK, 5pm western Europe, 12am Japan. My original bi-weekly schedule has been off this summer. With this morning settling it into place it shuld be back on track for August and September. Coming up on Aug 9th I'm going to joined by occasioanal collaborator, drummer/found percussionist Will Romano in our duo experience known as East of Where. That show will be later afternoon, ETA to be announced. Thanks and hope to see you this morning at 11. Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural www.myspace.com/CtReUse music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 08:51:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCB553BE8C; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:51:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=aWAFYeG5o7WCgizql41qjZgdqv/brKTd84GLohaOtSE=; b=Yk+SH+c1isi0olgQbmCJyFowHExUUwLsozcE8OwDdtzPXENv/jZCcNUlLAvtXl/LtG IVVPrjwIhypPhF2UOdk8zoFoC7fseRKV0guRxlJm0TqcppswrskQGDAutWgzw8f7YfhY W3zQeFk4oO/jyP0aliMa+SUpw5ugK8wgCzDE8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=K2qKq1OTzZ+TMjxniRlDsSUNvUIPYNuDdkWPnNHB/PB+j3dY8u+z9ADn2MdnkRMB3w GJUpVbpTgnYUf0GssFUsaQpeQMaK+/xyFhzs02PuevgJ5lvyVwFeNYbj7WgTdkZTwDdB 7w2kS8pRBlI1NP25Q/d0cwdFeYbq4tzz3yUhY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <101191640907251902y5351ee21y57f250f36174c76a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090725215422.748622AEA87@mail-in-08.arcor-online.net> <101191640907251902y5351ee21y57f250f36174c76a@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:50:40 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1eaf265765bb1406 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907260150v43ad9c29qd9cefbd2bf38f7ce@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: mailing list rules (was: Re: online real time looping sequencergame) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be5e2c33631046f97efc7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:51:01 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be5e2c33631046f97efc7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > just kidding, but those rules are like from 20 years ago. I understand > no really fat msgs, but no html is so freaking primitive, it can be > quite annoying. > > Here here... and whats with this argument about using a phone to DL your mail... then DONT!!! Im really sick of all this connectivity, why do WE sat on computers have to back up and have LESS functionality just cos some idiots want to check the Rick/Mark thread while water skiing... Ive already said that Im prepared to stick to the rules that LD has always had, but really... we COULD be posting video and pics right here.. As I look at it (In Gmail) it IS a forum style and works great for me!! > > -- > Warren > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 > http://www.warrensirota.com > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174be5e2c33631046f97efc7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


just kidding, but those rules are like from 20 years ago. I understand
no really fat msgs, but no html is so freaking primitive, it can be
quite annoying.

Here here... and whats with this argument about us= ing a phone to DL your mail... then DONT!!! Im really sick of all this conn= ectivity, why do WE sat on computers have to back up and have LESS function= ality just cos some idiots want to check the Rick/Mark thread while water s= kiing... Ive already said that Im prepared to stick to the rules that LD ha= s always had, but really... we COULD be posting video and pics right here..= As I look at it (In Gmail) it IS a forum style and works great for me!!



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Warren
http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
http://www.warren= sirota.com




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http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--0015174be5e2c33631046f97efc7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 08:57:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 619DC3BE8E; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=KMlNQ+OlGSAdqrYU5E89ssZAOVFANhAPy3fLL7ia8Is=; b=M5ihbjsk6xUhqNg53dxwDhn+hr98HSdCM3+7duf5apqiRuAmWQ1zLEGhuubNta4hER gHFIS6iBEoplRbJEoOj1SPrP0oabQDlj/UXv8fu0BRg3wQtvca+KTPQmbFQhog28Gavb yMjBnE+CW0T3vAQ3zc8szWsptC3OHOEsmPi0g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=che/EjHuA6+mIfu7efRDOj5UmaYEUAAiBaYaefDZnBc1j7yTt3Qd/g4pSKaKYadpH3 yjoI82VdcyeZJ5Vmy1Qabtbjqvk7fOl3LOz3cBl5I6wJt9tSDlj1jQEAqK/HaPMxRRUc 2rm+C2ndDotXRjtCcvIuHvXQ+Q5o4D6UpoEWU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907260150v43ad9c29qd9cefbd2bf38f7ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090725215422.748622AEA87@mail-in-08.arcor-online.net> <101191640907251902y5351ee21y57f250f36174c76a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907260150v43ad9c29qd9cefbd2bf38f7ce@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:57:37 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e8d5f41481e17d2f Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907260157n4e813f46nb98fb00fa3a95f4d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Re: mailing list rules (was: Re: online real time looping sequencergame) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c46169d2bca046f98080b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:57:58 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c46169d2bca046f98080b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OH.. by the way.. this was a rant, that is left over from my work... finally my movies (training things that I do as my day-job) can be seen fullscreen at 700kbs... and SUDDENLY all my customers are adding (and my sales guy loves) "Oh and we want a version for iPhone..." so BANG its the fiullscreen version that is made to be compatible with iPhone and becomes 640 360.. thats like sooo... 90's!! m On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:50 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Im really sick of all this connectivity, why do WE sat on computers have to > back up and have LESS functionality just cos some idiots want to check the > Rick/Mark thread while water skiing.. -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c46169d2bca046f98080b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OH.. by the way.. this was a rant, that is left over from my work... finall= y my movies (training things that I do as my day-job) can be seen fullscree= n at 700kbs... and SUDDENLY all my customers are adding (and my sales guy l= oves) "Oh and we want a version for iPhone..." so BANG its the fi= ullscreen version that is made to be compatible with iPhone and becomes 640= 360.. thats like sooo... 90's!!

m

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:50 AM, m= ark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Im really sick of all this connectivity, why do WE sat on computers have to= back up and have LESS functionality just cos some idiots want to check the= Rick/Mark thread while water skiing..



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http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--0015174c46169d2bca046f98080b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 09:14:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3118B3BE91; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:14:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 232206619/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.187.74/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.187.74 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al4BADa7a0pPTrtK/2dsb2JhbAAIzWuEDQWJfg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,271,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="232206619" Message-ID: <4A6C21EF.2000900@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:29:19 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mailing list rules References: <20090725215422.748622AEA87@mail-in-08.arcor-online.net> <101191640907251902y5351ee21y57f250f36174c76a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907260150v43ad9c29qd9cefbd2bf38f7ce@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907260157n4e813f46nb98fb00fa3a95f4d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907260157n4e813f46nb98fb00fa3a95f4d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <98mgOC.A.bKG.h5BbKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:14:10 +0000 (UTC) :-) that's how I feel about mp3 and i-pods (kind of) andy mark francombe wrote: > OH.. by the way.. this was a rant, that is left over from my work... > finally my movies (training things that I do as my day-job) can be seen > fullscreen at 700kbs... and SUDDENLY all my customers are adding (and my > sales guy loves) "Oh and we want a version for iPhone..." so BANG its > the fiullscreen version that is made to be compatible with iPhone and > becomes 640 360.. thats like sooo... 90's!! > > m > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:50 AM, mark francombe > wrote: > > Im really sick of all this connectivity, why do WE sat on computers > have to back up and have LESS functionality just cos some idiots > want to check the Rick/Mark thread while water skiing.. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 09:23:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C1483BE90; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:23:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=H774B21oR0hJMNYLI46UssGsrSgICMUo9+Oh1SoU8wI=; b=f9v8RcpcjNm9htW/+Z1Y9AuPxGh75u3ODeAI5Z/kEDqhAstIQ+RU7ZGslkj192lIUF WaV+9M5XPfJwIWVpWg2zWH7H60On1KHWbYlN1uww8FOofQSWiUD2pcfRPOPxF9oOHXQx kWCM70wn4zny4JkJA0UjJjipbnwVyk5/Z0GWM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=RNvxTBrfDe4sJlMYQ6PogPKBOTHNxxXZWBSC4J85rSQUuRDpMCl1d4Ph6WgnevAefW OfCQ9NJ/UP+ss6ivAgeRXJNCZKpCx3P8aQWi2cXoY6YQracyyxwJlz+pvtSMYHvyS/9Z C8bre0nS+t7GmW1Y0sFe/JYkpEyZT0zcnxaCg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4A6C21EF.2000900@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20090725215422.748622AEA87@mail-in-08.arcor-online.net> <101191640907251902y5351ee21y57f250f36174c76a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907260150v43ad9c29qd9cefbd2bf38f7ce@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907260157n4e813f46nb98fb00fa3a95f4d@mail.gmail.com> <4A6C21EF.2000900@tiscali.co.uk> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:23:03 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 62e8665d218a2dc2 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907260223q4d05826eg390fd1ca6f442486@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: mailing list rules To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be134924f3a046f986393 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:23:24 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be134924f3a046f986393 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit oooh yes.. dont get me started!! On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:29 AM, andy butler wrote: > :-) that's how I feel about mp3 and i-pods > (kind of) > andy > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174be134924f3a046f986393 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oooh yes.. dont get me started!!


On S= un, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:29 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:=
:-) that's how I feel about mp3 and i-pods
(kind of)
andy



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--0015174be134924f3a046f986393-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 12:06:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 682E83BE94; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A6C485B.10803@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:13:15 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New USB powered MIDI foot controller for Mac References: <66f9cc1e0907240554o50225a26gabae1a3da82d5140@mail.gmail.com> <4A69B72E.6010901@het.it> <66f9cc1e0907240652x709a574ft58223bd7d50512b8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907240653j64a19b0brd5be0ff19e4031c9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907240653j64a19b0brd5be0ff19e4031c9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Massimo Liverani wrote: > >>What do you mean Per that you still need another audio interface for the >>main PA? it seems to have outputs: >> >>"Output: Headphones, monitors or instrument amplifier" > > > A headphones level output wouldn't sound very good in a PA. And Apogee > doesn't either specify if that headphones output only mirrors the dry > guitar input or if it actually D/A converts audio from the software to > put out. > > Keep in mind that this is a gadget targeted at the consuming masses! > You have to research any aspect of its functionality to work out how > useful it really is for you. The fact that not all relevant > information is displayed in the online product presentation confirms > this. I'm just saying that it looks interesting on first sight ;-) I can't really see this as a stage tool, but from a quick look, it looks interesting as a reconding tool, and as such differs for ordinary floor controllers, as the build-in functions seems more designed and useful for controlling the recording process and software setups. I do find the price tag a Bit hefty, though.. For hands-free recording alone, I've been thinking of modding a mouse into a stomp (with durable buttons) to be able to activate Record and if programmatically possible, things like a Skip-to-next-session feature. > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 13:21:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB5D13BE99; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A6C5843.3050703@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:21:07 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlists for July 11 and 25, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:21:45 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2009/090711.html and http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2009/090725.html The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #154 July 11, 2009. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Mark Jenkins] Thunder at Midnight Sequences No. 6 VA [Mark Jenkins] Hearts of Space Sequences No. 6 VA [Johnson&Simpson] Passing of the Dark Sequences No. 6 Robert Carty In Jupiter's Light Starlight Vol. 2 (Deep Sky) Polaris Out of Alignment Background Stories (Ricochet Dream) Parallel Worlds Mutating Realities Shade (DiN) Mark Mahoney Beyond the Vaulting Beyond the Vaulting Sky (none) Sky Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== A New Day Reverie Summer Reflections (none) A New Day Solstice Summer Reflections (none) Marshall Styler Flight of the Great Seven Falls (none) Blue VA [Mark Holland] The Hanging Road Clear Water Reflections (none) Skala Arctic Fox Tundra (none) Skala Ice Tundra (none) Paul Lawler and Krakatoa Wonders (Rainstorm) Paul Speer Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Ozric Tentacles Mooncalf The Yumyum Tree (Snapper) Parallel or Ninety Afterlifecycle A Can of Worms (ProgRock) Degrees Sequence Morglbl Borderline Jazz for the Deaf (Laser's Edge) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. ===== Show #155 July 25, 2009. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Radio Massacre Veritable Petit- E-live 2008 (Northern Echo) International beurre VA [Zodiac] Part 1 Sequences No. 6 Steve Dinsdale Introduction New Church (Northern Echo) Steve Dinsdale New Church 1 New Church (Northern Echo) Steve Dinsdale Wright On New Church (Northern Echo) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Lisa Hammer Kyrie Orbis Factor Dakini (Projekt) Chinapainting Notre Dame Courtaud Cereus (none) Tim Story and Hans- Downrivers Inlandish (Gronland) Joachim Roedelius Paul Lawler and Global Shift Planting the Seed (Gemini Sun) Mark Holland Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Kaipa] unknown Sequences No. 6 VA [Rebekka] unknown Sequences No. 6 VA [Ivory] unknown Sequences No. 6 7BZH The Very Day The Sacrifice (none) Spock's Beard Intro Seel Euphoria (InsideOut) Spock's Beard Same Old Story Seel Euphoria (InsideOut) Spock's Beard You Don't Know Seel Euphoria (InsideOut) Spock's Beard Judge Seel Euphoria (InsideOut) Spock's Beard Sid's Boys Choir Seel Euphoria (InsideOut) Spock's Beard Change Seel Euphoria (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 15:00:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6843B3BE9E; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Q0qB8HiCeaTDkGlMSZtxJnCnp2Wy+HsAMa1W3pqGdk0=; b=rKS5G6EVOkBM43P2rxgrTMtxAj29BqKzKFsD3Ap0cSPOe/EMNNLMNYLqwVld3iPaw5 whucHS3QCumRdTClBOOqefW2QbSjXrDk1/ytoMVI7/K616pXMKKMylTpNmock1fskBan WMNrtAUADWlnz759Pyr7AMaB/dh3uapnK/M4g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OjlcX0cbL4tUAumTx5dNlrpWS2ywk9oI8dxfHR6ohnyyd9VUytm+zgEziQ0/Cw/nXR 21nMEqvi85jMgIMPKTbPWEKN4JnyQEvXg373eFcdaNsXBtc5uwBXe/zrsKZzvBoAV25B 5ZtGr8oNRKVIcQundfK8tmlRfuXQRYrmP7dpE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:00:25 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907260800k3fa28934ta6d3d75211b54864@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:00:26 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Adrian Belew Power Trio > A fantastic show with quite a bit of livelooping incorperated. > > http://tinyurl.com/l2vcw3 Wow, what a great recording! Looks and sounds awesome here. Thank you for hinting! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 15:04:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9213F3BEA4; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:04:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4xP7D4peklJSC8vre/GeJncvavk34Gz8YloY8PxKPxg=; b=xd0XaW05IWLnUAjzloEHc6tmITKCt0i586xgvydTZbVP4Ldbe3yZSvKDAr9pCFOSHE hApYXSn/5t4GESrPnLR+L6qv9QdaYcaW6OxXg4LXtGXtBo7lr1lUwGxwL0XPHYKmWKZ+ fgluewBz4GhqAchvgCMA0PGPrZEOWyyoXkP+Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NN0TsuUuGACYet0vsb1kHcrT8z6GSfmKaZGc1ljTPw6c7dBtAef4VllF6tZ9Brg4Ji D/39Xbmpz1P2MPrg7R3p2pindtp1G0vEvDY5o7T23Nglf59TuYDnwGFOz5lnxzcrrj2g UVmK+BnZf/GHy5nvqdDbDY8qMLYkP6E7qDZHw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:04:03 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907260804ua218128rdd3c7668d6ba2125@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:04:05 +0000 (UTC) Per said: > > http://tinyurl.com/l2vcw3 > Wow, what a great recording! Looks and sounds awesome here. Thank you for hinting! Yep, once again them over-organized, nit-picky Germans ;). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 15:08:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2B4B3BEAE; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:08:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=s5C00zKw91D/qSwpGdvqeAzpj0vxIzwdMEIYAK0JAmQ=; b=GDW08J2KfpjgxIFt2R3i0JZ+02TGns/prxBZN3kwwu0UPv/jCSbeH3y3N/lki7jgbV jNngxhv3rSzjkcBfcWkVt9iWPecT96EsqVER8plIIf4Gvkt2y2qhvILthcg1DOQWQX7k 9QM2f7FAJyrUX66auS7XXCjukOjIuR96xHbD4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WiXYw17hFEGvD/kNUv4n1+BmFGFwb3iK+dyUbSD0/o48xuPQUbzYCuY9U71SxcIYkV OanOFHaXb+MYIgpGAS/nL4SARNWzyxgdXHY4CP4gfW6ECU0C5vu0WmdAr1mJQEeezbRf CJgSH9SkG7+GsnHPi6Yrxin6TdYYKiB17E8+s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:08:35 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:08:35 +0000 (UTC) Excellent video... and it wasn't even in the body of the email! I could click on it and see it in a new window. Amazing. ;) On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Adrian Belew Power Trio > A fantastic show with quite a bit of livelooping incorperated. > > http://tinyurl.com/l2vcw3 > > > j_ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 15:19:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 280023BEA9; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:19:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=s1mS/S/I7w1e819OZayw4eqs+CKqSvFbzvEbggxsjrs=; b=VfF3UGr/Xj/NYa/nfj+dRLCdsaEnCqqE6ZfAbD2ncAc43IJ1/iLxOKqiOY/sTaTyP8 PM6FNrx0m2SSS9KAz5umvuaqzX7qEweogO0HLmD4D6ChRaHQHSH/OOFqiKnfOXX8PPkx 2huGCcGWNsgWCoHCdnX40SOYI6zUb+1RmMV7M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JfPQQxaZZknwrRv8ktVPHcjdE3MLSF15nK0ksWXlHdnlAluwI5H+gCfPvpDiDANeei N0IDI7e9T1TOLGavE2mzF4Id+Jo3bXy3/ulkjStOEaSmG+rCdU0x+sH0nsHaamBhj7kj E8XmJyV+rSMi9LN7lRta9pVQVuXrVSO+crS0M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A6C11D2.4020107@tiscali.co.uk> References: <603C4377-64F6-4538-B4AF-F6AA0F3750BC@laurelmurphy.com> <995b11efe76b6af909302c6130348c4d.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <4A6C11D2.4020107@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:19:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:19:12 +0000 (UTC) this combination +4,+7,+11 results in a 7th Major chord. bossa?? ... -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 15:47:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFB393BEB9; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:47:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6HSv71DiCuvdeG2KdIskl+/nYiXVSvmXW05eaCktGAY=; b=dBpVztnL0gvErdrf20thWOfzzuAyqusn5AYnKL1o4kALqSqHAe71B5t3PcTNlSaIrj ut87qXkfVtkD3nEJoRXtfHDq0cdKnYt0Ro7pxLJlhCDBvM3sXWzIxVMuaW04+AOOliR5 J/ETK+hYqqEh3OKNyRgelnscCE18zAIoi3Pn0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pf3BfAQc1T7D9JVtBFkN0mmQ9JgUzd1ucx5EJKSaT2dPHElVVqArkNNV1ELp1guMUr Y60EqLQ4xMyTp/W38mCPWQEhE2gCtokhI/hlNT4lANidqmaeGcQP7xC4VCgDlhH8a/rT 234+mw7oZ67IXWP/th3KrrqI2qcNir0tjhB1c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <603C4377-64F6-4538-B4AF-F6AA0F3750BC@laurelmurphy.com> <995b11efe76b6af909302c6130348c4d.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <4A6C11D2.4020107@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:47:38 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907260847m131a9b61r772064942e36c453@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:47:40 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > this combination +4,+7,+11 results in a 7th Major chord. bossa?? ... Yes, if the harmonizers are routed in parallel (the sharp 7th, not the flat - like we use to type it "Xmaj7"). If routed as a chain though, wow... then we're talking some fat cluster like blob here.... Except for all the doubles I see a tritonus added (7+11), then a minor third in the octave above the major third (4+11). Actually, I take back the comment about "blob" because when I'm playing that chord on my guitar here right now it sounds pretty neat. Wide, fat and shimmering of many overtones. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 15:58:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E81D3BE80; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Cx9QswLH+4RNPdv8zjv5mxWa52dS3lG4JDV0U6SzSnQ=; b=DXXlJ4B+mMU+ZQYPl3+03OyuD/8/Lf+RtGkgts6I69SLeVB90ObVlSYq/EOp9MDKCI aL8tNKN6k9oYUHmFw6z1yU8Qq0yeQL4SPD3u6u10fS3ERGRhiQjO/mpG22KIPZLrolzD PUvxaZ/1n9/WXDCs4I/qCD9xp1FoKzyFLpp9k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d+6pXX+YhqcOZR0xQZbCLcAegd1soJLWc5sjiSrWcs84SfryMPRluZIEsaL6AUQCs4 kI3Ib4dsfz7+I0TM0dor+cpSqC8Yca9MHtBm1Jwu7enrJERPAN/k8hJPQ1aEghELwD+J 8wgzKm9ri72zquac7m8okagCBHgqhYk2EoZK8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907260847m131a9b61r772064942e36c453@mail.gmail.com> References: <603C4377-64F6-4538-B4AF-F6AA0F3750BC@laurelmurphy.com> <995b11efe76b6af909302c6130348c4d.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <4A6C11D2.4020107@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0907260847m131a9b61r772064942e36c453@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:58:12 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:58:15 +0000 (UTC) well, in series i think there's nothing to worry about, if using 3 harm. feedbacking the same interval ad infinitum ... secure cluster.... oh, jazzy players, Xmaj7... amazing, how much knowledge produces this list, even taking as starting point a simply 7th chord. maybe the drop in volume due to feedback loss, helps, for smoothing the blob. 2009/7/26, Per Boysen : > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: >> this combination +4,+7,+11 results in a 7th Major chord. bossa?? ... > > Yes, if the harmonizers are routed in parallel (the sharp 7th, not the > flat - like we use to type it "Xmaj7"). If routed as a chain though, > wow... then we're talking some fat cluster like blob here.... Except > for all the doubles I see a tritonus added (7+11), then a minor third > in the octave above the major third (4+11). > > Actually, I take back the comment about "blob" because when I'm > playing that chord on my guitar here right now it sounds pretty neat. > Wide, fat and shimmering of many overtones. > > Per > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 16:06:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7EEC3BEBA; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Zq+g5hn3i2bU3DHkwtMOyF96mxIt62/6K3GaqfdF38o=; b=m+KQFQxLnQZ/4icuy+UpcP1qnA0cjXEPRAFJAs06RpBTaTTx2yaG+ZRyaqYqnH16Y4 NEBZhya4pRCJkyh/gt/jYva2GSO4rzTbFs13wxMaolb5oSvKmQo0AwaExKhA95sH0RnJ bVCgdTUFxUCdOiCA6HdFy0UwLmzSLsmLaLCTY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WEOz+ns+lxziGwaoUDqJ/fC3d1bLYrfKuqystUMvx7aRl3TBYeHljo8iznoXAWeV9I OzSxWbFS5ojroPRIvdtmaayBBquTaNQyGjp66FL++LvjKi4n81Y6/ekD4C7vc9htr2Qi LpJ36lqOkPgtI4lowxpLFaWVmBVJPytNhXGT8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <603C4377-64F6-4538-B4AF-F6AA0F3750BC@laurelmurphy.com> <995b11efe76b6af909302c6130348c4d.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <4A6C11D2.4020107@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0907260847m131a9b61r772064942e36c453@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:06:32 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:06:35 +0000 (UTC) i stole this one from a frith clip: +10 +21 ... 2009/7/26, Raul Bonell : > well, in series i think there's nothing to worry about, if using 3 > harm. feedbacking the same interval ad infinitum ... secure > cluster.... oh, jazzy players, Xmaj7... amazing, how much knowledge > produces this list, even taking as starting point a simply 7th chord. > > maybe the drop in volume due to feedback loss, helps, for smoothing the > blob. > > 2009/7/26, Per Boysen : >> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Raul Bonell >> wrote: >>> this combination +4,+7,+11 results in a 7th Major chord. bossa?? ... >> >> Yes, if the harmonizers are routed in parallel (the sharp 7th, not the >> flat - like we use to type it "Xmaj7"). If routed as a chain though, >> wow... then we're talking some fat cluster like blob here.... Except >> for all the doubles I see a tritonus added (7+11), then a minor third >> in the octave above the major third (4+11). >> >> Actually, I take back the comment about "blob" because when I'm >> playing that chord on my guitar here right now it sounds pretty neat. >> Wide, fat and shimmering of many overtones. >> >> Per >> >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 16:07:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1D2A3BEC0; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/qHcvLUCbF7QDFiJoXRz/i6hIBI9I0GlkaQ9bP3gUK4=; b=b3i4y6j+89s2y8Z0AS/nboKurOoWvUiRin47VHzAwlmsjStKLrbTw1Db8Wzy+WOnyv ApyNL0v1K2FKzkQaL8Ozq/LbXUI37RzHisIMg3ue11tjVc7z/+/jfdPCDYfJAhg/8q9F y635GAvzF/WjFoLhNOg/Yg8GvYSGU5LL9juJ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RqObjzSyaTyDXmZk3qn+4rWBBD75uTLCPTIlYyg0rwBBP/Mp0bvqoiBYoTUBo33VZp B4/T/oJGaXxiDW2iW9bn8wB+dfk2J5jTm38kzXQNETBL4tYPz1Gb/3EmzdJMMRD7699F O4u1oaq1tJkk638fO5GURM/mu/aUucoc2wkU0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <603C4377-64F6-4538-B4AF-F6AA0F3750BC@laurelmurphy.com> <995b11efe76b6af909302c6130348c4d.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <4A6C11D2.4020107@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0907260847m131a9b61r772064942e36c453@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:07:19 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907260907n67cf3621m38590fcf405a004c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:07:21 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > even taking as starting point a simply 7th chord. I understood Margret's post as talking in "steps", as equalling half notes, or frets on a guitar. By that view the seventh step is simply the fifth, not a 7th chord. And when transposed by "eleven steps" it becomes adds in for a MINUS NINE CHORD... (or -13 as voiced and called in jazz) - wow, I missed that in my last post. Maybe not precisely "a blobby cluster" but definitely a somewhat dissonant chord, maybe going for "fluffy" if played light with a not too fat sound! We'll have the major third, fifth, maj7 and in the upper octave half note above octave (-13) and minor third. per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 16:09:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02FAB3BEC4; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:09:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1248624579; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=F1NzUA5Z7GhQueBXMGt9DsbYwmE=; b=JLpYzf8RaPIczC1eeNx/kYmNAxHL+NNfGSONCtRJF7k9kOiJIsVEIJT/iA4ZPUpw jPr/ZZ33pFtaHvDWjWN2K9imEjfUW5nb3pTpQhSuAF3vnxjMKcCfjQn4o4EPORlY; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=3EMLiBmfbLcA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=GjdUF-SDAAAA:20 a=taY4SJCfCyaMy4PoDxwA:9 a=TDDCR3RUhp_b6vj_sco4Bqp47ggA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:07:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:09:39 +0000 (UTC) hehe, the actual link was some 357 characters! :) Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" To: Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! > Excellent video... and it wasn't even in the body of the email! I > could click on it and see it in a new window. Amazing. ;) > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: >> Adrian Belew Power Trio >> A fantastic show with quite a bit of livelooping incorperated. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/l2vcw3 >> >> >> j_ >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 16:18:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EE263BEC1; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LJ+qdCRMeQPrCfUNfIeVXAyNhFFNmtKv2GDDzceDs6Y=; b=W1mnmlwbHlprRDnWhbbK218ZwBJFS8gDJtgGhtlVFhZAX0704Q3tiY5pM5XLLoSasq fWjih3ZlaymlBQXPYVrXaJyJdmhSVOuU1OSIwWAY1GvBmnxpiCS77qoaL9LjEwXCd0dV bpscopPUY3EnVEuPinSqmf5/AWgDxzArSO4es= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=e18+9Ky7pNfWLQNQZwRNhaicg9f69JyJ64U+nUPCMUPJpeK6qtzQq/L/YzJt9knZFQ 2Rhgh1HsYT9X63PoV+Ib2L3fgmVFwiCrupaDCpk3Mbsbpja8N7QonnSSSmhwBv7dbIpI eXo5yVWo2cnKHoJZomYX1MAWRaEp/LyYTJ4vQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:18:52 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907260918m61406ff9g610a3c617ff59b68@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:18:53 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > hehe, the actual link was some 357 characters! :) You COUNTED them? :-) Is this what Rainer meant by "German nitt-pickyness"? (Presuming the server is in German territory) I mean, having such a long URL. per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 16:21:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8A343BEC7; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:21:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Eq5P9LPy/h1kDT+I0Crr4xODsmlffbgt2OzM2JowvYg=; b=PsXZlBvYECVq7vjWlhPbhxHjMQ38tsZBiFJy94J2xNAu5CEIEfSgQF4T7LF6FNWFK2 JrUVlnyvPjPuGOdNZ+NBXAE34uRsPAHvgvpPCXD7yOf9YWuAPNmE5zf7vWg5D1LnZTdO kRFNHKalGjmyNY5QPgRms4sYYH/s7eAWsCRZg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dErFrRFpT9PKlZ52Bx9F6OVWlU/X56bMN6IAwXreA0niyRvRGFbnUFupm1f0C14Opf O/IL9gsNh2aJJQrUEYUgMm6a6bjsk1GcfymeMx13WuxiwxzVx27RDYjua7f5F7srz+8x mDRrJeqdpUPGPJtuk77ZLng14vKwzBjpUt93k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907260907n67cf3621m38590fcf405a004c@mail.gmail.com> References: <603C4377-64F6-4538-B4AF-F6AA0F3750BC@laurelmurphy.com> <995b11efe76b6af909302c6130348c4d.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <4A6C11D2.4020107@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0907260847m131a9b61r772064942e36c453@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907260907n67cf3621m38590fcf405a004c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:21:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:21:17 +0000 (UTC) well. considering it like that, you also don't get any fifth, if the seven step is scaled from the fourth, which was the major third. instead, you get the secret major seventh again!... lacking the fifth as i said, but this is the less important note of a seventh chord ... eh, from where i should count now the +11 ... time to go out to have an ice cream! any recommendations? 2009/7/26, Per Boysen : > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: >> even taking as starting point a simply 7th chord. > > I understood Margret's post as talking in "steps", as equalling half > notes, or frets on a guitar. By that view the seventh step is simply > the fifth, not a 7th chord. And when transposed by "eleven steps" it > becomes adds in for a MINUS NINE CHORD... (or -13 as voiced and called > in jazz) - wow, I missed that in my last post. Maybe not precisely "a > blobby cluster" but definitely a somewhat dissonant chord, maybe going > for "fluffy" if played light with a not too fat sound! We'll have the > major third, fifth, maj7 and in the upper octave half note above > octave (-13) and minor third. > > per > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 16:27:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFEAC3BED0; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1248625625; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=0EXsH3a0MuFKaDfcxYeYdthR9tg=; b=pvIZxl+0zkOI6ax/dX11GXIQ8q3rs7LvTgeSvM5t0QxbIKAvzZ4IWbqhy2y+AcOS RTQP7ZhQqAftklZe9rCXMBFqCp8c+1cR03T3DfYtFj5JffZI3lfjTisVJKzxAq5n; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=3EMLiBmfbLcA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=dSJjYlR4X-uJyfdYmNcA:9 a=AdBMakEKQRctPIi090X9Ph4CaBIA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000801ca0e0d$a015d6f0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <66f9cc1e0907260918m61406ff9g610a3c617ff59b68@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:25:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:27:05 +0000 (UTC) :), heavens no Per, tinyurl did it for me....sheesh! I am in slOcala, Florida, not Munich! hehe j ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 12:18 PM Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: >> hehe, the actual link was some 357 characters! :) > > You COUNTED them? :-) > > Is this what Rainer meant by "German nitt-pickyness"? (Presuming the > server is in German territory) I mean, having such a long URL. > > per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 16:34:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D9D03BED5; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 479 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:34:27 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_de00c42d-1d35-4de2-92e9-b741ed9e5e58_" X-Originating-IP: [62.7.183.51] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:26:28 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2009 16:26:28.0609 (UTC) FILETIME=[D3E8BF10:01CA0E0D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:34:27 +0000 (UTC) --_de00c42d-1d35-4de2-92e9-b741ed9e5e58_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Erm - does anyone else here think this music is a bit=2C well=2C cack/medio= cre/80's/lame/limp/unimaginative/uninspired etc etc? G > From: jeff_d@embarqmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! > Date: Sun=2C 26 Jul 2009 12:07:35 -0400 >=20 > hehe=2C the actual link was some 357 characters! :) >=20 > Jeff >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Mark Sottilaro" > To: > Sent: Sunday=2C July 26=2C 2009 11:08 AM > Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! >=20 >=20 > > Excellent video... and it wasn't even in the body of the email! I > > could click on it and see it in a new window. Amazing. =3B) > >=20 > > On Sun=2C Jul 26=2C 2009 at 7:25 AM=2C Jeff Duke= wrote: > >> Adrian Belew Power Trio > >> A fantastic show with quite a bit of livelooping incorperated. > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/l2vcw3 > >> > >> > >> j_ > >> > >> > >=20 > > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Share your memories online with anyone you want. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/= --_de00c42d-1d35-4de2-92e9-b741ed9e5e58_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Erm - does anyone else here think this music is a bit=2C well=2C cack/medio= cre/80's/lame/limp/unimaginative/uninspired etc etc?

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Share your memories online with anyone you want. Learn more. = --_de00c42d-1d35-4de2-92e9-b741ed9e5e58_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 16:43:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 413DA3BED6; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1248626599; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=mflwQz4ELZwum4ky9oE00He2qxo=; b=M7MHv88Kuw2hfoe4JcSd62h6XASOYC5WnBN1DsiHLqeeDTgmXLzC2uCl16Drllfm DJ3SqebFWK3bdVpyWtX9eWja6poanGmd0zeDgzGrXPmFXaO/cAc9f5lHvmPtI+A5; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=3EMLiBmfbLcA:10 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=GjdUF-SDAAAA:20 a=EUcTA5wY9i3QtJ8F4xcA:9 a=H9G88ZvV4PCKshEWx2CLDII1vZEA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=zWSFQDO9AAAA:8 a=hG1ilDDYAAAA:8 a=tpe0zsCu1eAx1JguQ58A:9 a=VvtSNWqIjapY9EBtJvEA:7 a=aQnZIffcJPbWoG941rmO7z0JiiYA:4 a=dgJYCCSB_DcA:10 a=84tsCWNHjc4A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:41:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA0DEE.5DA655C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:43:20 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA0DEE.5DA655C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable not me! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gareth Whittock=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 12:26 PM Subject: RE: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Erm - does anyone else here think this music is a bit, well, = cack/mediocre/80's/lame/limp/unimaginative/uninspired etc etc? G > From: jeff_d@embarqmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! > Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:07:35 -0400 >=20 > hehe, the actual link was some 357 characters! :) >=20 > Jeff >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Mark Sottilaro" > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 11:08 AM > Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! >=20 >=20 > > Excellent video... and it wasn't even in the body of the email! I > > could click on it and see it in a new window. Amazing. ;) > >=20 > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Jeff Duke = wrote: > >> Adrian Belew Power Trio > >> A fantastic show with quite a bit of livelooping incorperated. > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/l2vcw3 > >> > >> > >> j_ > >> > >> > >=20 > > >=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Share your memories online with anyone you want. Learn more. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA0DEE.5DA655C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Erm - does anyone else here think this music is a bit, = well,=20 cack/mediocre/80's/lame/limp/unimaginative/uninspired etc=20 etc?

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> hehe, the actual link was some 357 = characters!=20 :)
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> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 7:25 = AM, Jeff=20 Duke<jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
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> >> A fantastic show with quite a bit of livelooping = incorperated.
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Share your memories online with anyone you want. Learn=20 more. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01CA0DEE.5DA655C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 17:32:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86BF03BEB2; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:32:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=ILhUyadSIslllFQ37kFe8iwiWpOZ+aW2BHA3TS+iqD0=; b=R04b6fEbGvMTgpvRh/h+bCaMpdMXj3NxXKVhk2/6QPKm7AV7VVn4b4srJCXVfcj4zs CAGozxnQ89HxwDWqvYgwot4ghZ6/lreMhRArd1As7csUIanVX2lfFQJFTAJpignrGQo3 oHuRhhYLJXgOq1u5BgAMYIfE631ApXnOvIqYw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=J6mqjLmujj+ShiW53N7qGDbOxFBIMW5MZelOugANq2pdqE3QgIqaFWbFYHHok6dIK8 pWsn4zPIEvQoYXId3Z+2zWboa0ZLOVKO2ZIh5frxRv5cH2fz7onPAS88tl7iXOQbZPqf tNfIeQYpTLJOF5EdB6Nr2o2bm6R8Ykf7LTLEA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> From: mark francombe Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:32:29 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ca261145b7022c88 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907261032q6d6fc60fs7ed8059d778048ad@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c0f0cec9909046f9f3996 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:32:50 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c0f0cec9909046f9f3996 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit god yeah.. yikes...!!! On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Erm - does anyone else here think this music is a bit, well, > cack/mediocre/80's/lame/limp/unimaginative/uninspired etc etc > G > www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c0f0cec9909046f9f3996 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable god yeah.. yikes...!!!

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--0015174c0f0cec9909046f9f3996-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 17:54:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12E943BEBA; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:54:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.182.223] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:54:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0BBB_01CA0DE7.C8CFF9C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2009 17:54:12.0664 (UTC) FILETIME=[1587CB80:01CA0E1A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:54:13 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0BBB_01CA0DE7.C8CFF9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't think the music has these properties inherently (so I would = refrain judgment in that light), but the music certainly doesn't inspire = me emotionally or musically. It feels a bit pass=E9 and formulaic. But = that's just me and a reflection of what I listened to an play now. They = all appear to be great musicians, but perhaps the music should be in a = museum? They are great curators. :) =20 K- ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gareth Whittock=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 12:26 PM Subject: RE: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Erm - does anyone else here think this music is a bit, well, = cack/mediocre/80's/lame/limp/unimaginative/uninspired etc etc? G > From: jeff_d@embarqmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! > Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:07:35 -0400 >=20 > hehe, the actual link was some 357 characters! :) >=20 > Jeff >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Mark Sottilaro" > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 11:08 AM > Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! >=20 >=20 > > Excellent video... and it wasn't even in the body of the email! = I > > could click on it and see it in a new window. Amazing. ;) > >=20 > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Jeff = Duke wrote: > >> Adrian Belew Power Trio > >> A fantastic show with quite a bit of livelooping incorperated. > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/l2vcw3 > >> > >> > >> j_ > >> > >> > >=20 > > >=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Share your memories online with anyone you want. Learn more. ------=_NextPart_000_0BBB_01CA0DE7.C8CFF9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't think the music has these properties = inherently=20 (so I would refrain judgment in that light), but the music certainly = doesn't=20 inspire me emotionally or musically. It feels a bit pass=E9 and = formulaic. =20 But that's just me and a reflection of what I listened to an play = now. =20 They all appear to be great musicians, but perhaps the music should be = in a=20 museum?   They are great curators.  :)  =

K-
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Gareth Whittock
To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 = 12:26=20 PM
Subject: RE: Livelooping with = a=20 band..amazing!

Erm - does anyone else here think this music is a = bit, well,=20 cack/mediocre/80's/lame/limp/unimaginative/uninspired etc=20 etc?

G

> From: jeff_d@embarqmail.com
> = To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
>=20 Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing!
> Date: Sun, 26 = Jul=20 2009 12:07:35 -0400
>
> hehe, the actual link was some = 357=20 characters! :)
>
> Jeff
>
>
> ----- = Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Sottilaro"=20 <zerocrossing@gmail.com>
> To:=20 <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Sunday, = July 26,=20 2009 11:08 AM
> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a = band..amazing!
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> > Excellent video... and it wasn't even in the = body of=20 the email! I
> > could click on it and see it in a new = window.=20 Amazing. ;)
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 7:25 = AM, Jeff=20 Duke<jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> >> Adrian = Belew Power=20 Trio
> >> A fantastic show with quite a bit of = livelooping=20 incorperated.
> >>
> >>=20 http://tinyurl.com/l2vcw3
> >>
> >>
> = >>=20 j_
> >>
> >>
> >
> = >
>=20

Share your memories online with anyone you want. Learn=20 more.
------=_NextPart_000_0BBB_01CA0DE7.C8CFF9C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 17:57:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6C553BEC5; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:57:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [70.29.18.76] X-Originating-Email: [vaneyck@sympatico.ca] Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:57:04 -0400 From: Trevor Van Eyck User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable MOON SOUNDTRACK References: <14818240.1248280808352.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <9B6CFFC2DB3D41A7A7529C6E6EE6363E@DTT60> <716205CC-2940-4F39-8A8A-92DFCBCAB89F@ubergadget.com> In-Reply-To: <716205CC-2940-4F39-8A8A-92DFCBCAB89F@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2009 17:57:07.0362 (UTC) FILETIME=[7DA89820:01CA0E1A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:57:07 +0000 (UTC) Not sure if anyone else has checked this out, but I was really impressed by the Soundtrack to "Moon". Moon is the new low budget sci-fi feature film by David Bowie's Son Duncan Jones (aka Zowie Bowie). The soundtrack is composed by Clint Mansell who is the former lead vocalist from Pop Will Eat Itself. He's done the music for Darren Aronofsky's Films: Pi, Requiem For A Dream, The Fountain and The Wrestler. Here's the music from the opening sequence of the film: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtCpttsZiys And here's more info on Clint Mansell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Mansell http://www.myspace.com/clintmansell http://www.clintmansell.com/ If you have any interest in seeing the film, I would avoid watching previews and reading the reviews, they really spoil the plot (in my opinion). The movie is in the vein of Silent Running, Sunshine, Solaris and to a certain extent 2001. It's really getting mixed reviews so I'm not really telling anyone to go see it. For me it was a real step back into the world of oldschool 70s and early 80s sci-fi with miniatures and all the stuff you'd want to read about in Starlog magazine at the comic store! I think it's worth taking a quick listen - not really "loopy" but a really great soundscape with a mixture of organic acoustic piano, synth pads and electronic drums. Very moody and atmospheric. TREVOR. Rev Fever wrote: > Nurse With Wound-The Surveillance Lounge > Throbbing Gristle-The Third Mind Movements > Iannis Xenakis- Electronic Music > Iannis Xenakis-Pleiades > Franco Battiato-Sulle Corde di Aries > Wonderwall Music by George Harrison > Edward Ka-Spel- Dream Logik, Part Two > Brian Eno-Discreet Music > Brian Eno-The Shutov Assembly > (Looper Thomas O'Neill) Myxproject-Instance > Andrew Liles & Jean-Herve Peron- Fini! > Mort Garson-Black Mass Lucifer > Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come- Journey > > (and the list goes on and on and on....ad infinitum...) > > Cheers, > Rev Fever > http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ > > > On Jul 22, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Dave Trenkel wrote: > >> I like these listening lists, it's always a great source for new music. >> >> Last CD's I got: >> Sun Ra: With Pharoah Sanders and Black Harold: reissue of an >> extremely rare mid-60's Saturn LP. I actually have the LP, but the CD >> adds 45 extra minutes of better recorded tracks. This is the energy >> music side of the Arkestra, and Sanders, who was new to NYC at the >> time of this recording, is already sounding killer. >> >> John McLaughlin/Chick Corea: Five Peace Band Live and Return To >> Forever: Live at Montreaux (DVD). In hight school in the 70's, I >> idolized Corea, especially the RTF quartet stuff. I pretty much quit >> listening to him after the Elektrik Band's glossy FM overload, but >> these two releases have just been klicking my ass. Both of these are >> just killer, the new RTF seems to have a deeper pocket than they ever >> did in the 70's, and the 5PB is pure fusion, excellent musicianship >> and a lot of fire. >> >> Mulatu Astatke with the Heliocentrics: Mulatu is an Ethiopian >> musician/arranger/bandleader behind much of the excellent Ethio-funk >> of the 70's, and The Heliocentrics are a young British band with a >> vast 70's fixation. It's a perfect match, Mulatu's slinky grooves and >> strange modal melodies tastefully updated with touches of hip hop and >> electronics. >> >> Secret Chiefs 3: The Severed Right Hands of the Last Men (title is >> actually in Italian, but I don't have the disc with me and am too >> lazy to look it up). Speaking of 70's fixations, this is a soundtrack >> to an imaginary Italian horror film. If I didn't know better, I'd >> swear it was a lost Morricone or Goblin rarity, even the recording >> quality fits with the era. >> >> Also, the new Tortoise is very nice, lots of cool distorted analog >> synths. >> >> But the majority of my listening lately has been stuff I've >> downloaded from avantgardeproject.org: an archjive of about 150 lp's >> of out of print academic electronic and 20th Century classical music. >> Lp's are transferred from vinyl with extreme fidelity, even the mp3 >> versions sound excellent, and it's really a wealth of interesting >> music. Material by Parmegiani, Berio, Subotnick, Kagel, Cage and many >> others, including composers I've never heard of, and I've been kind >> of obsessed with this stuff since college. Probably of special >> interest to this list are several late-70's Henry Kasier recordings. >> This archive is simply astounding, it'll take me weeks of listening >> to just make a first pass through this. >> >> Seems like I've been living in the past lately :-) >> >> Also, I should second Rick's recomendation of Nik Bartsch's Ronin, I >> have both of their ECM discs and they are incredible. It's like the >> concepts of 80's Krimson as played by a chamber-jazz ensemble. Great >> stuff. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 17:57:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5028F3BECF; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:57:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=62GOnesQjoN9TOFo25oBPfVhV0xRm29yleaiB1/mzJI=; b=Ca5laag9FYVRNa5KEV7WRvQXQEXUCLJV5Nx1vm1YbeMDZXVGERPAB6wyob+vdURQSh 5d2WOlffJwsSKiAaVw4DzJBPVn6gTbC0zfKxMeVbPwYke5ZdatPkszJFbJGaaf0UAJ8g siGPEjGriDPV6Z1SgaNxMSH/vmAVzK0Fv4qqw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ObiFTM4iKLu9JihPRbApVd9nk56IHbur/BxNhpHmvhllrcgl2FBsAk98LV//2D7oTm dYMtLVRmQXFJb0rjx51lLaDg70nfXb+lV79NJ/tg6Njx8GZrbqgsDcXM+yLD3w1r7K1+ 8NET1iWnQlpJgg0cFiQaWLEvmXLCbRhY1wu4s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:57:09 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907261057r56844b6al6d0fdb9dbbf5df35@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:57:10 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Erm - does anyone else here think this music is a bit, well, > cack/mediocre/80's/lame/limp/unimaginative/uninspired etc etc? Totally! Except for "uninspired", cause you can tell they play inspired. I haven't heard stuff like that since the eighties! ;-) And I think it is an funny experience to here this music being played with such a "listening" ensemble attitude. But this is not my favorite music, Crimson never were either, back in the seventies/early eighties. I'm just finding it very exciting to hear this now because it is so out of time at this moment. I truly enjoy it as a "music time machine" ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 18:51:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4A1D3BEA9; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:51:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 233053423/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.185.134/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.185.134 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqYBAIRCbEpPTrmG/2dsb2JhbAAIkli5TIQNBYl+ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,272,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="233053423" Message-ID: <4A6CA94B.3090509@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:06:51 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:51:41 +0000 (UTC) Krispen Hartung wrote: > I don't think the music has these properties inherently welcome back Kris :-) From fideuram@fideuram.it Sun Jul 26 18:57:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 509 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:57:06 UTC Received: from mail.stpaulchristian.org (mail.stpaulchristian.org [66.18.107.102]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090283BE80; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:56:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User (dsl-sp-81-140-1-139.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.1.139]) by mail.stpaulchristian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2AF63382876; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:48:19 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "Banca Fideuram" Subject: COMUNICAZIONE URGENTE Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:48:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20090726184819.C2AF63382876@mail.stpaulchristian.org> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
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 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 19:16:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 191573BEA4; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:16:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.182.223] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A6CA94B.3090509@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:16:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2009 19:16:26.0253 (UTC) FILETIME=[922DBBD0:01CA0E25] Resent-Message-ID: <2-1PZD.A.sAB.KuKbKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:16:26 +0000 (UTC) :) Yes, I've been hiding. I'm reading a lot of the messages, just haven't had the time to respond. I will miss all of you at Y2K9 this year, unfortunately. I'm going to play at the Electro Music festival in the New Jersey area, and I can't afford to get away twice that month. So I hope all of you that go have a great time and give Rick big pats on the back for his efforts and energy. But I may be back in Santa Cruz in December, as Bob Sterling and I applied to play at the ISIM (International Society of Improvised Music) festival at the university there. I don't know whether we will be accepted or not. Also, another update, I recently took up the flute again. The flute was my very first instrument, at a very early age, but I gave it up when was about 12 years old. I bought a really nice alto flute last month, and I'm practicing a lot. I hope to be playing it through my laptop in a year or so. I just need a break from the guitar and need something simpler. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > > > Krispen Hartung wrote: >> I don't think the music has these properties inherently > > > welcome back Kris :-) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 19:43:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B41A33BE90; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:43:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1248637422; bh=UOHIUB3A/W9Ly9HQIs18qRFbr6iMAJsD019lOKjb8bE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cOerCec0W9KG9/sL5cMrgqUelXTnopoYxrXm9VzPhHbaFzADCDFKIcpwjdUZBtlm8EeKlQkVXlVIDeFNBlfsy7uoc6dM/yKJoBqdhc5b53bqgF7bUQNHibsUc1tZy5D54WrG6hEgsKVDtPnykL9JWsACeAjh4z4CZ5DaINL7xDQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=I768wxHwsFHKGcYTHp9kg15UGsNBd+1idAlI1DeChqTYQwCA05FqvQqQYsqbRGf8jf3spnEGbYOECoHybtmnf/46hwpj6ZqmJA1qi7qfN/KfFBKA27DMAgKeHb2cu1T5kcpan6N3pamne5+752twfcCA/0NGWxt1EcmkpPzJPzY=; Message-ID: <318307.28317.qm@web24601.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0.4PgnQVM1ngz.W0AMbtY88lnGB6p8ANnGbr6ynb6Rf4RwCg5ddoyWI01DcYpjuHYQwybYRX_6g6cmV2H6eKRFDa_.vtnP.LW_7B0d9FhZO8cMSLbWJaZf.Wl0T_T2ex_QmhRH8M1bsTsNzgd3LoisOtBV4C1Z4TvBR_VcwhSlRIp0PA8tb0ksmZCO.gG.P3AHnydtnWfZBSB7J7EweXvq9oLbzRA49IfeiKRGvgiwkmSidD7DiO6fdmJdO6wwV_qgqw1YG2EkIrPUrDbxmZKbP10e9UFeKORT3HBQ4D8Y5O_j_oTeGw8dw8od.U_dSBbBPSK7U1YXbRAA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:43:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable MOON SOUNDTRACK To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:43:43 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, it is a pretty good soundtrack, in fact after watching the movie, I s= tayed for the final credits just to find out who did the soundtrack. I was= n't familiar with the name (Clint Mansell), but I realise now that I am fam= iliar with (and enjoyed) much of his previous work.=0A=0A(Not quite so impr= essed with the film, I was really looking forward to it, but I found it a l= ittle predictable with some unanswered loose ends. Having said that, Sam R= ockwell's performance(s) is/are excellent, I very much like the style of th= e film, and there are some nice warm 'human' touches to the plot. For what = it's worth, I prefered 'Sunshine'.)=0A=0AStephen=0Awww.myspace.com/sylvianf= isher=0A=0A=0A--- On Sun, 26/7/09, Trevor Van Eyck w= rote:=0A> From: Trevor Van Eyck =0A> Subject: Re: OT:= What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable MOON SOUNDTRACK=0A> To: Loopers-De= light@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Sunday, 26 July, 2009, 5:57 PM=0A> =0A>= =A0=A0=A0Not sure if anyone else has checked this=0A> out, but I was reall= y impressed by the Soundtrack to "Moon".=0A> Moon is the new low budget sci= -fi feature film by David=0A> Bowie's Son Duncan Jones (aka Zowie Bowie).= =0A> =0A> =A0=A0=A0The soundtrack is composed by Clint=0A> Mansell who is t= he former lead vocalist from Pop Will Eat=0A> Itself. He's done the music f= or Darren Aronofsky's Films:=0A> Pi, Requiem For A Dream, The Fountain and = The Wrestler.=0A> =0A> =A0=A0=A0Here's the music from the opening=0A> seque= nce of the film:=0A> =0A> =A0=A0=A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBtCptts= Ziys=0A> =0A> =A0=A0=A0And here's more info on Clint Mansell:=0A> =0A> =A0= =A0=A0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clint_Mansell=0A> =A0=A0=A0http://www.my= space.com/clintmansell=0A> =A0=A0=A0http://www.clintmansell.com/=0A> =A0 = =A0=A0=A0If you have any interest in seeing=0A> the film, I would avoid wat= ching previews and reading the=0A> reviews, they really spoil the plot (in = my opinion). The=0A> movie is in the vein of Silent Running, Sunshine, Sola= ris=0A> and to a certain extent 2001. It's really getting mixed=0A> reviews= so I'm not really telling anyone to go see it. For=0A> me it was a real st= ep back into the world of oldschool 70s=0A> and early 80s sci-fi with minia= tures and all the stuff you'd=0A> want to read about in Starlog magazine at= the comic store!=0A> =0A> =A0=A0=A0I think it's worth taking a quick liste= n=0A> - not really "loopy" but a really great soundscape with a=0A> mixture= of organic acoustic piano, synth pads and electronic=0A> drums. Very moody= and atmospheric.=0A> =0A> =A0=A0=A0TREVOR.=0A> =0A> =0A> Rev Fever wrote:= =0A> > Nurse With Wound-The Surveillance Lounge=0A> > Throbbing Gristle-The= Third Mind Movements=0A> > Iannis Xenakis- Electronic Music=0A> > Iannis X= enakis-Pleiades=0A> > Franco Battiato-Sulle Corde di Aries=0A> > Wonderwall= Music by George Harrison=0A> > Edward Ka-Spel- Dream Logik, Part Two=0A> >= Brian Eno-Discreet Music=0A> > Brian Eno-The Shutov Assembly=0A> > (Looper= Thomas O'Neill)=A0 Myxproject-Instance=0A> > Andrew Liles & Jean-Herve Per= on- Fini!=0A> > Mort Garson-Black Mass Lucifer=0A> > Arthur Brown's Kingdom= Come- Journey=0A> > =0A> > (and the list goes on and on and on....ad=0A> i= nfinitum...)=0A> > =0A> > Cheers,=0A> > Rev Fever=0A> > http://www.spiriton= e.com/~rvfever/ =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > = On Jul 22, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Dave Trenkel wrote:=0A> > =0A> >> I like thes= e listening lists, it's always a great=0A> source for new music.=0A> >> =0A= > >> Last CD's I got:=0A> >> Sun Ra: With Pharoah Sanders and Black Harold:= =0A> reissue of an extremely rare mid-60's Saturn LP. I actually=0A> have t= he LP, but the CD adds 45 extra minutes of better=0A> recorded tracks. This= is the energy music side of the=0A> Arkestra, and Sanders, who was new to = NYC at the time of=0A> this recording, is already sounding killer.=0A> >> = =0A> >> John McLaughlin/Chick Corea: Five Peace Band Live=0A> and Return To= Forever: Live at Montreaux (DVD). In hight=0A> school in the 70's, I idoli= zed Corea, especially the RTF=0A> quartet stuff. I pretty much quit listeni= ng to him after the=0A> Elektrik Band's glossy FM overload, but these two r= eleases=0A> have just been klicking my ass. Both of these are just=0A> kill= er, the new RTF seems to have a deeper pocket than they=0A> ever did in the= 70's, and the 5PB is pure fusion, excellent=0A> musicianship and a lot of = fire.=0A> >> =0A> >> Mulatu Astatke with the Heliocentrics: Mulatu is=0A> a= n Ethiopian musician/arranger/bandleader behind much of the=0A> excellent E= thio-funk of the 70's, and The Heliocentrics are=0A> a young British band w= ith a vast 70's fixation. It's a=0A> perfect match, Mulatu's slinky grooves= and strange modal=0A> melodies tastefully updated with touches of hip hop = and=0A> electronics.=0A> >> =0A> >> Secret Chiefs 3: The Severed Right Hand= s of the=0A> Last Men (title is actually in Italian, but I don't have the= =0A> disc with me and am too lazy to look it up). Speaking of=0A> 70's fixa= tions, this is a soundtrack to an imaginary Italian=0A> horror film. If I d= idn't know better, I'd swear it was a=0A> lost Morricone or Goblin rarity, = even the recording quality=0A> fits with the era.=0A> >> =0A> >> Also, the = new Tortoise is very nice, lots of cool=0A> distorted analog synths.=0A> >>= =0A> >> But the majority of my listening lately has been=0A> stuff I've do= wnloaded from avantgardeproject.org: an=0A> archjive of about 150 lp's of o= ut of print academic=0A> electronic and 20th Century classical music. Lp's = are=0A> transferred from vinyl with extreme fidelity, even the mp3=0A> vers= ions sound excellent, and it's really a wealth of=0A> interesting music. Ma= terial by Parmegiani, Berio, Subotnick,=0A> Kagel, Cage and many others, in= cluding composers I've never=0A> heard of, and I've been kind of obsessed w= ith this stuff=0A> since college. Probably of special interest to this list= are=0A> several late-70's Henry Kasier recordings. This archive is=0A> sim= ply astounding, it'll take me weeks of listening to just=0A> make a first p= ass through this.=0A> >> =0A> >> Seems like I've been living in the past la= tely=0A> :-)=0A> >> =0A> >> Also, I should second Rick's recomendation of N= ik=0A> Bartsch's Ronin, I have both of their ECM discs and they are=0A> inc= redible. It's like the concepts of 80's Krimson as played=0A> by a chamber-= jazz ensemble. Great stuff. =0A> > =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 19:47:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 634593BE89; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:47:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HPJ/VD9Hmo5GiMq8pScjmk/qaPSGqqlqWo+U+HMVkYc=; b=XKfJ13uYgvMy8sFGmE4fleol6iUq02HpsvPbzBKBAtqaoTyxdklVhQpV8UC/l83EL9 ZbLFkDXx/hPGBgcrg4Ti7z+la54SydCzy1UPHyWZHreQgllmQuK0BUaqYE942/Vqs1go PpdCC01byX7qDyhu/t2APZEduW2UN9rXqdbwI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Aw46dHNMJaO5P4YlDPHxK3dqOClhowezKfKKFAELlafA1GNHSgahEbstZtbIltdp8E YX4XWukLKdrZ/fAzchhYZoHySfjJoHUlD3x0PA/e7oRhOMxvzENxvGiL0740t+Ytq+dI sEChXslfdr80kt9YjmIftdWLb/3MYEnPF2nZ0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A6CA94B.3090509@tiscali.co.uk> References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A6CA94B.3090509@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:47:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-36tI.A.9dC.gLLbKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:47:44 +0000 (UTC) he's been very active in the war field against god's popes. i enjoy his posts on facebook so far! 2009/7/26, andy butler : > > > Krispen Hartung wrote: >> I don't think the music has these properties inherently > > > welcome back Kris :-) > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 19:56:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B81C53BE86; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_de5c1cb1-b085-4229-9889-77daf21ab1ab_" X-Originating-IP: [99.195.148.10] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:56:50 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4A6CA94B.3090509@tiscali.co.uk> References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A6CA94B.3090509@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2009 19:56:50.0981 (UTC) FILETIME=[376DDD50:01CA0E2B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:56:51 +0000 (UTC) --_de5c1cb1-b085-4229-9889-77daf21ab1ab_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i think thats buckethead!!! ha!! awesome tones and craziness - thanks for t= he link- incredible wall of noise for a 3 piece - i get a huge primus vibe over here= ....lovin every second of it fro > Date: Sun=2C 26 Jul 2009 20:06:51 +0100 > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! >=20 >=20 >=20 > Krispen Hartung wrote: > > I don't think the music has these properties inherently=20 >=20 >=20 > welcome back Kris :-) >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports = pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=3DTXT_TAGL= M_WL_QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=3Dsports= --_de5c1cb1-b085-4229-9889-77daf21ab1ab_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i think thats buckethead!!! ha!! awesome tones and craziness - thanks for t= he link-
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Check it out. = --_de5c1cb1-b085-4229-9889-77daf21ab1ab_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 20:15:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74D7C3BE85; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:15:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1952 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:15:50 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.4 X-EN-IMPSID: LjiF1c00105G96J0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:41:46 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: Re: mailing list rules (was: Re: online real time looping sequencergame) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20090726201550.2B86D3BE7C@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:15:50 +0000 (UTC) I've seen some pretty shitty html mail - appreciate the primitive text rule... At 2009.07.25 07:02 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: >just kidding, but those rules are like from 20 years ago. I understand >no really fat msgs, but no html is so freaking primitive, it can be >quite annoying. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 20:39:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EFDA3BE80; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:39:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: <4A6CA94B.3090509@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: RE: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:39:13 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <4A6CA94B.3090509@tiscali.co.uk> Thread-Index: AcoOJsR4+XGq8nvETPGdTL1kAeITkwAA3j9w Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:39:17 +0000 (UTC) Andy B wrote: "Krispen Hartung wrote: > I don't think the music has these properties inherently welcome back Kris :-)" Ditto on Krispen, and a shout out to my Welsh homeboy Gareth as well! Nice to hear from both of you. I haven't listened to King Krimson in a long time, though I was a fan back in the day and got to see them live, as well as the Bears. I didn't really get the Bears though. It was nice to see that Belew is still playing with creativity and abandon and still possesses an arsenal of great techniques. His whammy bar technique, like Jeff Beck's continues to evolve. He has a cool guitar. I really like him, but the music didn't really grab me, perhaps because the rhythm section was overplaying a bit from my perspective. I respect the hell out of him as an innovator and musician. It is interesting to note that he is still playing through Johnson modeling amps live. One aspect of his tone that I have moved away from personally is the extreme compression he uses, most evident on clean tones. It's punchy, and in your face but pretty devoid of dynamics. I just prefer music with more holes and there in lies the challenge of playing in a power trio: How to make the music full without turning in to a full fledged wank-a-thon. This band did a better job than most but could have gone further in developing some different kinds of atmosphere, and a bit more space. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 21:29:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 393E13BE89; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1975 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:29:46 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8zXjhIro+OINvHrSP1LdPPcrdA7rldC0/3m2UkoxUps=; b=qKv72L2ZSjBEmvGXDEFDPaDw+Y5rYncSIJITALMHO5yI+tnf0qC/DXYSMqe49eSPm2 iFBLEskAqG5TnmNxXz4tu0CeJmu77vYfu+QRtUpHyR6gjxl7rtUpn6Wr1/n9pFyXOIXg I1gJinrFEbydnmc2pq+LNAZc+9nC5MvGIVWhk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=AWdhhK5sjFcDPsFdpUt9LdXsi7+jd7YjSvDFjt+qdXE/YwaoXqwWIbCdpuXpLsOhFX a0ExcVyGq1BqdA29HY+wHtsYKOmgwdPP0+aIPJ+g1dtugoh4zQmQmir/CrjFJ/XsnZ4C bP56E4ANlOWbZUWLO+9SHCXM/0Pylxgnf5zwY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:56:50 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9d8a2c0771827258 Message-ID: <37f071c00907261356q384ad385ude68ef5f06593e01@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0Eza9B.A.XPG.LrMbKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:29:47 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: >They all appear > to be great musicians, but perhaps the music should be in a museum?=A0=A0= They > are great curators. =A0:) That just strikes me as an incredibly odd thing to say about music and the musicians playing it. Put the music in a museum? I didn't know this stuff had a sell by date (some recording techniques, sure). I guess in that case most blues, jazz, classical and so on should be put away to leave room for the fresh music of today. My appreciation of music is always changing, what sounds boring one day can inspire me the next. What I loved yesterday can seem dull and lifeless a few days later, only to come back full on the next year. Anyhow, that just seemed like an odd perspective to me. The worst part of that show to me is the editing (hey let's try to make it as frenetic as possible). Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 21:32:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC1A93BE88; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:32:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hGrQ5xvfwLpEXkrNQfSxTUHKJWlRg5PgmopNP1Z7/uA=; b=LDVx4dTx5hLX//ECcK53+MsO7ll8r7mPmCfwtyctDunF4s0rmGzpf3mBUhTir7yt8O iGpApWNBJax7e8Jd2O3bOZllqyn4K/6T0nAVUJPw2InKFNutX017+Oj2ipwaYdBRqcCM HL5d16kIERwEdu+0mZEf6ZHZe6AKd4yqt7FbA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=F9g5HoHc+X8QMJAEwZPEy6UH8Vonsq+cr1pN5hwxhEolhezckOdhXq80cF+BXUi0xl BeMFN6gvbhUyZPqfKj0XLAevhVbA4YmFuVeN38MYgC/ZRqIMjcfGk8C90nPBMk1JIh8J FMheRz0FNcRZPm+jGdOPxTH3651e4INkm79Fc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:32:40 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907261432j7274e77t91066d6fdc2e6fae@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:32:42 +0000 (UTC) >They all appear > to be great musicians, but perhaps the music should be in a museum? >They are great curators. =A0:) That's why they're singing "I'm a dinosaur, somebody is digging my bones" ;= ) And welcome back! Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 21:42:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B57AC3BE88; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:42:28 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ctajKajNVaJUAJ55QaVcRw0yPQSYXY98e7s55LAhsXxnP0jvLowKAkPoRcCl77Gdb9jkPW53y+HJPlX0utIWGxZF4P1nTLSBwoVrtoapr4sn1pwm48LAEvmXPua9JeZ2Xdxwd4CpdCPTrEEkTZQXlCusbZZMK2bd3NYSWmePkY4= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: tazm760VM1k6JIrhznfcPEcQupEAXqUVzk.RcFUpMHWOjQkgKodPSn_0XHPJ7cKfhV6WeTfNc3BDyZGEpDodWuSCq5pHRPfi9XjflXHKA.E1LjFv6K2rJSDfDwrynCK.TUrOluMn_b2EfUBXColNYFI.om2V6XF9Up8DCclPjgxyLDT9426VV_KQkED0idj9ct2.ADoG8b2WuT.Rzxv6p4vxEJrH3dv_.6mjXZRkInk4.1xwh15HcnaBjqkRV5PkHUusddFlicXS3gtfTGlVtT3zKGUNXCdT5wcZlkN1gyX0f2NaumtmsYIQjFLmSrNqa.HphSQmdqfX74swSL6t3pxWRUYLoeYxfw8- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <37f071c00907261356q384ad385ude68ef5f06593e01@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:35:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Marty DiBergi: Do you feel that playing rock 'n' roll music keeps you a child? That is, keeps you in a state of arrested development? Derek Smalls: No. No. No. I feel it's like, it's more like going, going to a, a national park or something. And there's, you know, they preserve the moose. And that's, that's my childhood up there on stage. That moose, you know. Marty DiBergi: So when you're playing you feel like a preserved moose on stage? Derek Smalls: Yeah. On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: >They all appear > to be great musicians, but perhaps the music should be in a museum? They > are great curators. :) That just strikes me as an incredibly odd thing to say about music and the musicians playing it. Put the music in a museum? I didn't know this stuff had a sell by date (some recording techniques, sure). I guess in that case most blues, jazz, classical and so on should be put away to leave room for the fresh music of today. My appreciation of music is always changing, what sounds boring one day can inspire me the next. What I loved yesterday can seem dull and lifeless a few days later, only to come back full on the next year. Anyhow, that just seemed like an odd perspective to me. The worst part of that show to me is the editing (hey let's try to make it as frenetic as possible). Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.31/2264 - Release Date: 07/26/09 11:07:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 21:51:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAE5D3BE87; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=U4A9EKHhzk0AROV4hi3hIamLpUAGnI8xrSZRV4g6jlUEeNdhkkJjyhoZ9qUctNPF; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <27004928.1248645085972.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:51:25 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd4861a08cfd1f79261f356e338f4906a19e666fa475841a1c7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.45 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Don't Knock the Rock! been following ABelew fer ever-he can do no wrong in my book-got me into looping back in the 80s w/his use of the EH16secDDL-which i got then and still use. (also his (ab)use of the EH BigMuff! which i encourage) i do agree w/ BWalker that his overuse of compression is a bit much-but he has used it since the beginning-so its his sound. s -----Original Message----- >From: Ricky Graham >Sent: Jul 26, 2009 5:35 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! > >Marty DiBergi: Do you feel that playing rock 'n' roll music keeps you a >child? That is, keeps you in a state of arrested development? > >Derek Smalls: No. No. No. I feel it's like, it's more like going, going to >a, a national park or something. And there's, you know, they preserve the >moose. And that's, that's my childhood up there on stage. That moose, you >know. > >Marty DiBergi: So when you're playing you feel like a preserved moose on >stage? > >Derek Smalls: Yeah. > > > >On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Krispen >Hartung wrote: >>They all appear >> to be great musicians, but perhaps the music should be in a museum? They >> are great curators. :) > > >That just strikes me as an incredibly odd thing to say about music and >the musicians playing it. Put the music in a museum? I didn't know >this stuff had a sell by date (some recording techniques, sure). I >guess in that case most blues, jazz, classical and so on should be put >away to leave room for the fresh music of today. > >My appreciation of music is always changing, what sounds boring one >day can inspire me the next. What I loved yesterday can seem dull and >lifeless a few days later, only to come back full on the next year. > >Anyhow, that just seemed like an odd perspective to me. > >The worst part of that show to me is the editing (hey let's try to >make it as frenetic as possible). > >Kevin >-- >Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > >- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > >Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.31/2264 - Release Date: 07/26/09 >11:07:00 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 22:29:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 798B83BE7C; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.182.223] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <37f071c00907261356q384ad385ude68ef5f06593e01@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:29:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2009 22:29:18.0945 (UTC) FILETIME=[840A6510:01CA0E40] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Well, I thought I was going to sneak in and get out, but apparently, the LD blackhole has me hooked again! :) Here we go again. :) Of cource, what I said is odd. Some wouldn't expect otherwise. It was partly in jest. I'd say the same thing about traditional jazz, country, or any past genre. The thing is, you can probabl find this style of music and other prior genres in museums of music, mainly because, well....it's history. There is nothing wrong with that. I appreciate it and think people should still play it. I even play it once in a while. I think it needs to be preserved, so that people can see history in action in the current times. Is it novel, innovative and earth breaking? No. But that is another matter and discussion all together. I think people should continue to play music like this, in the same way I think people should study history and learned what has been done before. Kris ----- Original Message ----- On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: >They all appear > to be great musicians, but perhaps the music should be in a museum? They > are great curators. :) That just strikes me as an incredibly odd thing to say about music and the musicians playing it. Put the music in a museum? I didn't know this stuff had a sell by date (some recording techniques, sure). I guess in that case most blues, jazz, classical and so on should be put away to leave room for the fresh music of today. My appreciation of music is always changing, what sounds boring one day can inspire me the next. What I loved yesterday can seem dull and lifeless a few days later, only to come back full on the next year. Anyhow, that just seemed like an odd perspective to me. The worst part of that show to me is the editing (hey let's try to make it as frenetic as possible). Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 22:29:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 218983BE87; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.182.223] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <7334ca1b0907261432j7274e77t91066d6fdc2e6fae@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:29:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2009 22:29:58.0040 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B57D180:01CA0E40] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Great song. KC apparently has a sense of humor. :) You too Rainer! ----- Original Message ----- >They all appear > to be great musicians, but perhaps the music should be in a museum? >They are great curators. :) That's why they're singing "I'm a dinosaur, somebody is digging my bones" ;) And welcome back! Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 22:31:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDD733BE7C; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:31:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.182.223] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <37f071c00907261356q384ad385ude68ef5f06593e01@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:31:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2009 22:31:35.0093 (UTC) FILETIME=[D530EE50:01CA0E40] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:31:35 +0000 (UTC) That's hilarious. How's this for a new band: "Fusion on Formaldehyde". Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Marty DiBergi: Do you feel that playing rock 'n' roll music keeps you a > child? That is, keeps you in a state of arrested development? > > Derek Smalls: No. No. No. I feel it's like, it's more like going, going to > a, a national park or something. And there's, you know, they preserve the > moose. And that's, that's my childhood up there on stage. That moose, you > know. > > Marty DiBergi: So when you're playing you feel like a preserved moose on > stage? > > Derek Smalls: Yeah. > > > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Krispen > Hartung wrote: >>They all appear >> to be great musicians, but perhaps the music should be in a museum? They >> are great curators. :) > > > That just strikes me as an incredibly odd thing to say about music and > the musicians playing it. Put the music in a museum? I didn't know > this stuff had a sell by date (some recording techniques, sure). I > guess in that case most blues, jazz, classical and so on should be put > away to leave room for the fresh music of today. > > My appreciation of music is always changing, what sounds boring one > day can inspire me the next. What I loved yesterday can seem dull and > lifeless a few days later, only to come back full on the next year. > > Anyhow, that just seemed like an odd perspective to me. > > The worst part of that show to me is the editing (hey let's try to > make it as frenetic as possible). > > Kevin > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.31/2264 - Release Date: 07/26/09 > 11:07:00 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jul 26 23:16:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9844F3BE85; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=v/DZAMRpopcJ3xd8ZEch+AE1bmXEEkOqXKqsdRuBs3Q=; b=r5IEKqbphA2YzYssuehNOiK3rmosfRZUNdPM7x88KGG7y8rlVRiSefd+R/RR6mXw0H BgwCLNnWUyuwPKSe5bobI4bNGLzkNYTj5byBWJMvtIpkP171ZQGeP59Qq5bMVWcm+EYj JvBjGQKo5KAmfl8FL12dQgwPayysFqg/Gl8zw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fS2dfZu4hFl23kIYn/XU27X26ZRzjs2cvOqxZpgnfpvc2gnrddOWszgqCiNHQFpu7C 9RvtGDAjRZmS+ybaai0HEhOY3GYUbfxmoTw5kfH1U1UZgIAptvbOZqQD4GB0vXQvlzZ6 676JVHNMZXAr/bHp308qJNbk6BjBjgp5asx7U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:16:57 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Gig Spam = LOS ANGELES! 1 August From: Dennis Moser To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646d7d6b151cd046fa40823 Resent-Message-ID: <8GMbAD.A.BnC.qPObKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:16:58 +0000 (UTC) --00163646d7d6b151cd046fa40823 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will be performing as part of an exhibition/performance/installation at the Bandit Gallery in the Echo Park district, in Los Angeles (CA) next Saturday, 1 August. THe doors open at 6:30 PM; things get underway after that. Some loopage to be expected. Serious guitar wrangling guaranteed. Be there if you can ... it's the only time I'll be in California (or the West Coast) this year. DETAILS: http://3strophe.blogspot.com/ *Everything Bends: An Improvisatory Evening of Demonstration Performance, and Conversation Doors 6:30 PM / 7:00 PM Saturday, August 1st Bandit Gallery 1549 Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90026* Best, Dennis -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dennis-Moser-aka-usrsbin-aka-AldoManutio-Abruzzo-/102151358044?ref=mf --00163646d7d6b151cd046fa40823 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will be performing as part of an exhibition/performance/installation at t= he Bandit Gallery in the Echo Park district, in Los Angeles (CA) next Satur= day, 1 August. THe doors open at 6:30 PM; things get underway after that.
Some loopage to be expected. Serious guitar wrangling guaranteed. Be th= ere if you can ... it's the only time I'll be in California (or the= West Coast) this year.

DETAILS:

http://3strophe.blogspot.com/

Everything Bends:
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Doors 6:30 PM / 7:00 PM Saturday, August 1st
Bandit Gallery
1549 Sunset Blvd, L= os Angeles, CA 90026

Best,

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From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:07:15 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Krispen Hartung w= rote: > Well, I thought I was going to sneak in and get out, but apparently, the = LD > blackhole has me hooked again! :) =A0Here we go again. :) No one get's out of here that easily, you should know that :-) > Of cource, what I said is odd. =A0Some wouldn't expect otherwise. It was > partly in jest. I'd say the same thing about traditional jazz, country, o= r > any past genre. =A0 The thing is, you can probabl find this style of musi= c and > other prior genres =A0in museums of music, mainly because, well....it's > history. There is nothing wrong with that. =A0I appreciate it and think p= eople > should still play it. I even play it once in a while. =A0I think it needs= to > be preserved, so that people can see history in action in the current tim= es. > Is it novel, innovative and earth breaking? No. But that is another matte= r > and discussion all together. I think people should continue to play music > like this, in the same way I think people should study history and learne= d > what has been done before. I hope I didn't come off as offended or overly serious in that response. What I meant was that I don't see how one can consider live music to ever be just a historical curiosity. When music is performed by humans, it is happening at that very moment and as such is a living representation of that moment (if the performers are indeed trying to do more than simply play the right notes in sequence and even then sometimes magic sneaks in and creates something 'more' of it). Basically I think that every performance creates a world of possibility and is open to what I think of as grace and when that happens, there is nothing like it; its quintessentially timeless and representative of now simultaneously. So I'm put off by the thought that one could consider any music 'dead' and ready to be put in storage. Basically I guess I feel that when 'Music' happens, it is novel, innovative and earth shattering and much much more regardless of the shell it came to earth in. The most ground breaking technically complex and new music can just as easily be a historical document of the past as a simple 12 bar blues IMO; its all in the energy that infuses the performance. Kevin --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. 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Try it now. = --_1558112c-a147-4acc-89f8-b5880c0b3861_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 02:54:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10F093BEA6; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 02:54:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UvHXMEjNxo+9AV0+OUeo3Qjcw9Qp3SnhqWMw+sBxT/M=; b=lrg2ht6wXG01klUbHCWxpZg7Qn1XfyLx/SSpLQaCUBRbCVPMWnefuVs27jxXqfzMrL z2bjHTaRdy3KgcxWkz88sKOookJcAB8JaIPESub1S8n8UDbnkFw2LFcbS/ieINzP2Q8R xaXXpmrMP0iECgbWfYwIMtTtIVP0tjcZJyDJE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uAtC12rC0xO2LDfkvTMC5zXHm2Bt+yGHh7in5ca+FmVhzXUlHMNlzp7U3fky8jD5iM TnDy0Iywl9eHIBIuZmMV+dHV7lto8+d1IPSEbhOFUCixUZfF8j/+JMNhb2ZVSGorsftu decF62nVeEV5KafyntvezPAGIMDarLI+NSu/Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37f071c00907261700l1607de78q3ddab846286dd3f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <37f071c00907261356q384ad385ude68ef5f06593e01@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00907261700l1607de78q3ddab846286dd3f0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:54:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 02:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Oh, btw, most of you (myself included) who are being critical of this music (I'm looking at you Per, Krispen, etc... ) attempt pale imitations (that I quite like) of the music that this man pioneered and you should be honored to lick Adrian Belew's ball-sack. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 03:47:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FF153BEE6; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 03:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YRejBCAIG00mGxsGUXWff91ZSDbX9UT8l/BqHNCJP10=; b=fz8eZwki4j2TMi5p7u7P1CTNiyryl/CwRGJjl0BoILRdb7lxX2imiMT1BNPaR/vc5+ RIwU8WkouO3wJ/x5gaS8bcntT1ompF7LcSuyNQ0suQ6FFiJyuPrpuqDMgNuvxkB8g27S SIrI/ux3y5kq5bZXnz9xHnHvpJPeNj8sTBnUU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=F7kMk7YWPmurLNgCxWOrNemGSlDWOsekw7rdKbX6uMqN0UTjhf95Eab8f1Eu8rS9vf 94CuiS5XXRqUL4uG+iIZ/Mr5X0E1SzHX7w5l4f/shOhv94CHwUhzaOn8Gb+JLfgQ5KJo DbR86FhvEkJuJu1gTFZKRdi5yPwCsCXF5NFJE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:47:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FRO's rig - The Wandering Madman From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <635w1.A.eOF.7MSbKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 03:47:07 +0000 (UTC) although pretty, as i supose most of us addicted to gear will agree, it's too much for what i would consider a portable rig ... 2009/7/27, FRO DIDDLY : > > > its finally looking pretty ;o) here are some pics for your viewing pleasu= re- > > > > > > close to 2 years in the making, its finally portable- with gear side of > stage, it takes about 15-20min for setup, 10min for tear-down- > > > > it weighs over 500lbs.... > > > > i should have videos up in another month or two- > > > > should be touring the U.S. hopefully by December....... > > > > > > > > ~!~!~The Wandering Madman~!~!~! > > > > > > > > .....coming to a small, dirty, stinky, hole-in-the-wall, trailer > park/coffee-house/crack-house/kindergarten near you....... > > > > hope to see ya there ;o).... > > > > > > xoxo > > > > fro > > > > > > > http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s48/thecoherent/?action=3Dview¤t= =3DEuclid1.jpg > > > http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s48/thecoherent/?action=3Dview¤t= =3DEuclid2.jpg > > > http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s48/thecoherent/?action=3Dview¤t= =3DEuclid3.jpg > > > http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s48/thecoherent/?action=3Dview¤t= =3DEuclid4.jpg > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Bing=99 brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try i= t > now. > http://www.bing.com/search?q=3Drestaurants&form=3DMLOGEN&publ=3DWLHMTAG&c= rea=3DTXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 04:04:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59D9B3BE88; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:04:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: From: Teddy Kumpel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! X-Priority: 3 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:04:13 -0400 References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <37f071c00907261356q384ad385ude68ef5f06593e01@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:04:21 +0000 (UTC) hmmm... it was original the first time he did it... but now he's done it too many times... too many copycats... agreed... but, the fact stands that he invented a ton of techniques on the guitar that a lot of people learned from. Maybe he's finished innovating but that's no reason to put him in a museum. He's still alive for god's sakes... aren't museums for dead things? Teddy On Jul 26, 2009, at 6:29 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Well, I thought I was going to sneak in and get out, but apparently, > the LD blackhole has me hooked again! :) Here we go again. :) > > Of cource, what I said is odd. Some wouldn't expect otherwise. It > was partly in jest. I'd say the same thing about traditional jazz, > country, or any past genre. The thing is, you can probabl find > this style of music and other prior genres in museums of music, > mainly because, well....it's history. There is nothing wrong with > that. I appreciate it and think people should still play it. I even > play it once in a while. I think it needs to be preserved, so that > people can see history in action in the current times. Is it novel, > innovative and earth breaking? No. But that is another matter and > discussion all together. I think people should continue to play > music like this, in the same way I think people should study history > and learned what has been done before. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Krispen > Hartung wrote: >> They all appear >> to be great musicians, but perhaps the music should be in a museum? >> They >> are great curators. :) > > > That just strikes me as an incredibly odd thing to say about music and > the musicians playing it. Put the music in a museum? I didn't know > this stuff had a sell by date (some recording techniques, sure). I > guess in that case most blues, jazz, classical and so on should be put > away to leave room for the fresh music of today. > > My appreciation of music is always changing, what sounds boring one > day can inspire me the next. What I loved yesterday can seem dull and > lifeless a few days later, only to come back full on the next year. > > Anyhow, that just seemed like an odd perspective to me. > > The worst part of that show to me is the editing (hey let's try to > make it as frenetic as possible). > > Kevin > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to > have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 > > Teddy -- PS. -- http://teddyjam.com new live recordings, always -- http://myspace.com/teddykjam friend me -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 04:06:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DC293BE80; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:06:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-id: From: Teddy Kumpel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:06:20 -0400 References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <37f071c00907261356q384ad385ude68ef5f06593e01@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00907261700l1607de78q3ddab846286dd3f0@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:06:28 +0000 (UTC) hahahahahahahahahahahahaha now that's funny ! I'm going to forward this to Adrian... he'll love it ! Teddy -- PS. -- http://teddyjam.com new live recordings, always -- http://myspace.com/teddykjam friend me -- On Jul 26, 2009, at 10:54 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Oh, btw, most of you (myself included) who are being critical of this > music (I'm looking at you Per, Krispen, etc... ) attempt pale > imitations (that I quite like) of the music that this man pioneered > and you should be honored to lick Adrian Belew's ball-sack. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 04:08:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC1293BE7F; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wpiIyNHZHwCFdZ5R26nO89pq1LaWN+P6tGL5/UnwzZE=; b=vbsbGFkSJXroxkt1MnesTiLqy/nZTaK4ws9Hw4qRTgKljOwLLwAR0n87qUkDbIBsir P89g/RKayaBbNb79J+ZRgXgOQ0ADVvi9KWh+q8YBOs8RTrfdnDRzgWnP14lUrAh/4mX2 E1dzbrA0e23733DuCjofteYOwNNBjjwosJ0l8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=W7JQsUM0UKS4yVNBqquOr4btv7CswWoCHn9gnnkPJStpCYCzvCXNQvpoumyASjV9fj xtW3Db431Kpf3khDQswk2vvpogV0Tt2vAY3fKGrp0pedBIZzTi+mn9YsYXyf7t/p9rvv XhRIS+vbGRA+wx0QSyWMZ0RxXcN+8YEelstWQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <37f071c00907261356q384ad385ude68ef5f06593e01@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00907261700l1607de78q3ddab846286dd3f0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:08:13 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Tell him Mark the kid who used to work for Laurie Anderson back in the Home of The Brave days says, "Hello." On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Teddy Kumpel wrote: > hahahahahahahahahahahahaha > > now that's funny ! > > I'm going to forward this to Adrian... he'll love it ! > > Teddy > -- > PS. > -- > http://teddyjam.com > new live recordings, always > -- > http://myspace.com/teddykjam > friend me > -- > > > On Jul 26, 2009, at 10:54 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > >> Oh, btw, most of you (myself included) who are being critical of this >> music (I'm looking at you Per, Krispen, etc... ) attempt pale >> imitations (that I quite like) of the music =A0that this man pioneered >> and you should be honored to lick Adrian Belew's ball-sack. >> > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 04:10:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD67C3BE88; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:10:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: <3F287DA4-A8BE-4565-B4F4-9974C1B2FC78@mac.com> From: Teddy Kumpel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:10:46 -0400 References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <37f071c00907261356q384ad385ude68ef5f06593e01@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00907261700l1607de78q3ddab846286dd3f0@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: <9p_Cl.A.vbG.JjSbKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:10:49 +0000 (UTC) he'll recognize your name... he remembers everything if not, I'll tell him Teddy -- PS. -- http://teddyjam.com new live recordings, always On Jul 27, 2009, at 12:08 AM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Tell him Mark the kid who used to work for Laurie Anderson back in the > Home of The Brave days says, "Hello." > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Teddy Kumpel wrote: >> hahahahahahahahahahahahaha >> >> now that's funny ! >> >> I'm going to forward this to Adrian... he'll love it ! >> >> Teddy >> -- >> PS. >> -- >> http://teddyjam.com >> new live recordings, always >> -- >> http://myspace.com/teddykjam >> friend me >> -- >> >> >> On Jul 26, 2009, at 10:54 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> >>> Oh, btw, most of you (myself included) who are being critical of >>> this >>> music (I'm looking at you Per, Krispen, etc... ) attempt pale >>> imitations (that I quite like) of the music that this man pioneered >>> and you should be honored to lick Adrian Belew's ball-sack. >>> >> >> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 04:16:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52C0F3BE85; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=esMO9ErLebv1NpXym0TPSyfqlogGo0Tlz+rLNKn7dvw=; b=K9KduSVPOnbYEyARC/0bdt0UDiItEfQX5FfVJeCO8deaccC4TOL03cV1li1JlfpvXx TMepwHNa6U+7gXLfghvUOSnoW5dHQ0D7ZgriF41fHOfuyx1fVAaqMDTCxb+Vx72+tDko 4Hv4SqmZ1s9WOKVmFnfdvcIjumcMwxvapEZMI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=luqYxBRau0xUxfK9VyYKIBdQE9UVA1mLzzeL8njXPClEh+kTQQ3ksM5MCpcxY9SmEx i94TOwd0ljmu5amZj1yZ/ZYAH41eaeDn1MkMqCZqnf50Ea3KzXRpA9UfQBto51L/fpiN mN1b3VAN4oCR417shGbf7Z8wMwsuSIhpZGZnA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <37f071c00907261356q384ad385ude68ef5f06593e01@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:16:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <19GyDD.A.kuG.FoSbKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:16:05 +0000 (UTC) I always wonder why guys like Belew get trashed when they tread over old ground, yet guys like B.B. King more or less did the exact same thing their entire career and are heralded as gods. Also, this is but a tiny bit about what Adrian's been up to. Download the free "Ghosts I-IV" by NIN and he's all over that and sounds nothing at all like the stuff off Side 1. http://ghosts.nin.com/main/home On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Teddy Kumpel wrote: > hmmm... it was original the first time he did it... but now he's done it = too > many times... too many copycats... agreed... but, the fact stands that he > invented a ton of techniques on the guitar that a lot of people learned > from. Maybe he's finished innovating but that's no reason to put him in a > museum. He's still alive for god's sakes... aren't museums for dead thing= s? > > Teddy > > > On Jul 26, 2009, at 6:29 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> Well, I thought I was going to sneak in and get out, but apparently, the >> LD blackhole has me hooked again! :) =A0Here we go again. :) >> >> Of cource, what I said is odd. =A0Some wouldn't expect otherwise. It was >> partly in jest. I'd say the same thing about traditional jazz, country, = or >> any past genre. =A0 The thing is, you can probabl find this style of mus= ic and >> other prior genres =A0in museums of music, mainly because, well....it's >> history. There is nothing wrong with that. =A0I appreciate it and think = people >> should still play it. I even play it once in a while. =A0I think it need= s to >> be preserved, so that people can see history in action in the current ti= mes. >> Is it novel, innovative and earth breaking? No. But that is another matt= er >> and discussion all together. I think people should continue to play musi= c >> like this, in the same way I think people should study history and learn= ed >> what has been done before. >> >> Kris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Krispen >> Hartung wrote: >>> >>> They all appear >>> to be great musicians, but perhaps the music should be in a museum? The= y >>> are great curators. :) >> >> >> That just strikes me as an incredibly odd thing to say about music and >> the musicians playing it. =A0Put the music in a museum? =A0I didn't know >> this stuff had a sell by date (some recording techniques, sure). =A0I >> guess in that case most blues, jazz, classical and so on should be put >> away to leave room for the fresh music of today. >> >> My appreciation of music is always changing, what sounds boring one >> day can inspire me the next. =A0What I loved yesterday can seem dull and >> lifeless a few days later, only to come back full on the next year. >> >> Anyhow, that just seemed like an odd perspective to me. >> >> The worst part of that show to me is the editing (hey let's try to >> make it as frenetic as possible). >> >> Kevin >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all troubl= e. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 >> >> > > Teddy > -- > PS. > -- > http://teddyjam.com > new live recordings, always > -- > http://myspace.com/teddykjam > friend me > -- > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 04:43:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 795A03BE89; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <0CAE6A8A-5042-463B-84A0-369FF1B6DC22@grubmah.com> From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! X-Priority: 3 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:43:36 -0700 References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:43:39 +0000 (UTC) You can tell his bass player must be a looper: she plays barefoot. 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REMEMBER:PayPal will never ask ATM PIN to any transaction done online! Copyright © 1999-2009 PayPal. All rights reserved. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 07:31:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD6473BE87; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:31:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=feNMHIWhijVp40HcgdL4yUcrOn3zDN6pKbXHIBi/arY=; b=UDySbhyjAhow0FUn/qM7DEYv5N7VWdpAMMvm4Xu2XF2ue7NjAfGoPfynk5A5qTzxyB 6tOx8cAYFLSzOEX944VC0Itd4D7NWdKp6WOYcbORAvn2L1Tbp9X8lpoLsfoVOREH2E80 IZjIjhrJe04hPvP0HNWjB296Z97HGqP8dHW+M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Dk0aoICh+zjb1qiv+a10J8q0T54twTC1W16t+Xii5kd3zaTVyAtfcIMA+hL848Znf0 qepxmZf6d4zN7lzeojbSURQw86gdU1/l604xRR02FWqJOWDVdHrq4wLXYaF6KWfAMOvv uRqkTkJzKBtgLp/tGUBYEvZRAg79nlHOaGOws= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:31:16 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7d1717de9d0009f2 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907270031wcf17d26x6330bdfcd9938caf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FRO's rig - The Wandering Madman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c34a4a571e6046faaf17e Resent-Message-ID: <8iOsZD.A.hbF.ZfVbKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:31:37 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c34a4a571e6046faaf17e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >it's too much for what i would consider a portable rig ... Again I find myself posting as a luddite... whats with you guys? You know ... 15 yrs ago this would have been thought of as an extremely efficient and portable rig.. My god every band I was in had a VAN FULL of gear!15- 20 mins setup-- nothing... More like 2 hours-setup!!! now I know some of you will not be happy untill all your rig can be fit on an iPhone... but its becoming VERY boring on this list when almost any gear-post is met with with some quip from a lappy guy.. "of course you could use mainstage running bidule... " Of course we all wanna be able to jump on a plane and go to Santa Cruz (all but one at least) but sometimes I wonder... has the" market made the product" again? I cant get PAID gigs in my city now... no bands are touring= , no CD=B4s being sold. wrote: > although pretty, as i supose most of us addicted to gear will agree, > it's too much for what i would consider a portable rig ... > > > > its finally looking pretty ;o) here are some pics for your viewing > pleasure- > > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c34a4a571e6046faaf17e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >it's too much for what i would consider a portable rig ...

A= gain I find myself posting as a luddite... whats with you guys?

You = know ... 15 yrs ago this would have been thought of as an extremely efficie= nt and portable rig.. My god every band I was in had a VAN FULL of gear!15-= 20 mins setup-- nothing... More like=A0 2 hours-setup!!!

now I know some of you will not be happy untill all your rig can be fit= on an iPhone... but its becoming VERY boring on this list when almost any = gear-post is met with with some quip=A0 from a lappy guy..=A0 "of cour= se you could use mainstage running bidule... "

Of course we all wanna be able to jump on a plane and go to Santa Cruz = (all but one at least) but sometimes I wonder... has the" market made = the product" again? I cant get PAID gigs in my city now... no bands ar= e touring, no CD=B4s being sold.

<WARNINGsex_in-the_city_writing_style)

"Sometimes I ask = myself--- Does everything have to be in such neat and tight easy to move/ma= nage/ and sell packages, what ever happened to the double drumkits, and wal= ls of Marshalls, projections, horn sections, and dancing girls... is everyt= hing geared towards "150 characters of ironic self-sell ego"

DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO TWITTER?"

</danger-sex_in-the_ci= ty_writing_style)


Excuse the ramble...

M



=

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gma= il.com> wrote:
although pretty, = as i supose most of us addicted to gear will agree,
it's too much for what i would consider a portable rig ...


> its finally looking pretty ;o) here are some pics for your viewing ple= asure-
>

--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--0015174c34a4a571e6046faaf17e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 07:35:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A813F3BE89; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=43WXxqER4L7BFoLDwmRgJDc+i6uiHamVCPND2rbv/7k=; b=GPabGfh58wtvZb2a5Ipg2NbxqcLuWwpwS9lstMf/SBR5LcPYPqnJkqg8W9Y+cSGOce syZYfjI4mqN1bWgvNfFPODDKEgFve9i7SswXhDg5+QEAX2lgH2xI8OzOiXAfZjDiiSx1 BBgQvT2G5ft6vIa+1yP012269dnxohkrTKAGE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=E67W/iEfN5oIQV9pCOke9ln0xmSFEI5r4hcYMLTeDFXcbC5Bt3QpmoyKF5dVY5ZCP6 FZErsaq8eRWIV/KRB6VdQbxMXn2YjV84j6CPg/kR3jgO9LhD82AxO2AxkM+pWXICY3L7 41LO+mHILIlNVN5SUdM9Jwx9Ci9L47nIYkxco= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:35:00 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 34c2615ec83b2bb7 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907270035i4dd6b0c1r4eb2f0981175a3c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151749f7ceff106a046faafe44 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:35:21 +0000 (UTC) --00151749f7ceff106a046faafe44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > They all appear to be great musicians, but perhaps the music should be in > a museum? They are great curators. :) > > K- > > Ha ha, Couldnt put it better myself!!! Spot on... You know ow ould have > LOVED to have seen these guys play 25 years ago, when they were new and > hungry.. h wait a minute.. I DID.. and they were great!!! > > M --00151749f7ceff106a046faafe44 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=A0They al= l appear to be great musicians, but perhaps the music should be in a=20 museum?=A0=A0 They are great curators. =A0:)=A0

K-
Ha ha, Couldnt put it better myself!!! Spot on... You know ow ould have L= OVED to have seen these guys play 25 years ago, when they were new and hung= ry.. h wait a minute.. I DID.. and they were great!!!

M

--00151749f7ceff106a046faafe44-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 07:57:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B240B3BE84; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:57:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=C9gOdtoF4qYVZ9frPn3XACjkj+XiqFUivovcTPQirn4=; b=tTKkd5Tpe7cp3NT4/xUkJJY0A/Hh4nmEHlI8p7/UjiNI8+BbMU9cPNjxFqupjaaaTW ujXSYpSj1lNGunZhde2gFbtaaqtWWlYCzl+1gecJ2novpV0oOp+IZfenyC4MPleTo4qV HpsrnTmJR1rENOxLFqUbwaj6QtrypCgEPKtsw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sWr50Zwx5OB8agRPlC3xkwCil0tTljO2zTfhRHt55HGyIqlL+Bm2L7tmJTs8VV9V66 AhaY6WsxV3v+tqViSg2f7Owpv2ES1//P76V61v4cKGghHUGGVTEjsaq0KJpZKfUYnEG/ zk4CpfHNAZxwOzjPOgeVKnZBUiuoqV9zc/Dug= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907270031wcf17d26x6330bdfcd9938caf@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0907270031wcf17d26x6330bdfcd9938caf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:57:47 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FRO's rig - The Wandering Madman From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1iu4d.A.iZG.93VbKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:57:49 +0000 (UTC) mark, it's inescapable ... :-))) ... less is more. a portable laptopless guitar rig is this: guitar+gt3+hazarai ... you can take it *further*. please, more of that sex-in-the-city writing style btw, i love your new hair cut! 2009/7/27, mark francombe : >>it's too much for what i would consider a portable rig ... > > Again I find myself posting as a luddite... whats with you guys? > > You know ... 15 yrs ago this would have been thought of as an extremely > efficient and portable rig.. My god every band I was in had a VAN FULL of > gear!15- 20 mins setup-- nothing... More like 2 hours-setup!!! > > now I know some of you will not be happy untill all your rig can be fit o= n > an iPhone... but its becoming VERY boring on this list when almost any > gear-post is met with with some quip from a lappy guy.. "of course you > could use mainstage running bidule... " > > Of course we all wanna be able to jump on a plane and go to Santa Cruz (a= ll > but one at least) but sometimes I wonder... has the" market made the > product" again? I cant get PAID gigs in my city now... no bands are touri= ng, > no CD=B4s being sold. > > > "Sometimes I ask myself--- Does everything have to be in such neat and ti= ght > easy to move/manage/ and sell packages, what ever happened to the double > drumkits, and walls of Marshalls, projections, horn sections, and dancing > girls... is everything geared towards "150 characters of ironic self-sell > ego" > > DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO TWITTER?" > > > > Excuse the ramble... > > M > > > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Raul Bonell wrot= e: > >> although pretty, as i supose most of us addicted to gear will agree, >> it's too much for what i would consider a portable rig ... >> >> >> > its finally looking pretty ;o) here are some pics for your viewing >> pleasure- >> > >> > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 08:10:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 646153BE86; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=jHmhGmiIy+iPwHS4pFvgqFWlbAHkR5voagozVJ73ltg=; b=QVEWIRCPXKpFNydNCIm0b98i5PA4PGvOUhR/rT14yNmpQ/4bYSaBK7sInGILIfz0Qz XEghDCYcLXUjTkvNjP0MrYdZkqNKQJRaUzTkI+JqPw88dGX7J2GdEuCjX1F5dVzeZ8Fh KJuNI1nGMWf6Sg3O+Mt3ngK8E7/D6Vejx6TmI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=NrAEnvJg9oTR4LosHbHXU1FLhMjiIBpNsWfHnwAJmXTatD9aYKAvzqPfIFemX+O1wi ZRRxoQXsUbSsFmps2NqY4vBDaKCTr0y5nhba8wGIYPlgSzQ+pV+HsneaRJBzaloiGvDc HVgrLJpCRuCpezUN70t2m/AoBl1LcVonca6OU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <9ab0c76f0907270031wcf17d26x6330bdfcd9938caf@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:09:52 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 704e188a0ea4ac57 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907270109n662a06cah8a6ca0c81f115aab@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FRO's rig - The Wandering Madman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be5e2b113ca046fab7b70 Resent-Message-ID: <7CAZgD.A.XxG.lDWbKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:10:13 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be5e2b113ca046fab7b70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > btw, i love your new hair cut! > The dreads to my ass thing was becoming a bit crusty... Its my attempt at clean, slick, easy, and portable.. DOH!! shit.. its a "Twitter-cut!" -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174be5e2b113ca046fab7b70 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrot= e:
btw, i love your new hair cut!

The dreads to my ass thing was becoming a bit crusty...
= Its my attempt at clean, slick, easy, and portable..

DOH!!

shit.. its a "Twitter-cut!"



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http://= vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
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--0015174be5e2b113ca046fab7b70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 09:41:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19D8D3BE85; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1J8UuVYWWReebb8gUUZMLTNqHOeJ8kx7/XOsjUXoJOg=; b=UcOGYAAs3lAiXWaPHOz1TLnwj59Lyns4qyOt6QYxrJEF9kPJI+OYGfvpL2D8QnDkUW VYYEPrJDlr171tauKqp9nqismg3RD3Hpy2mOlmvFwXt2uPFBmKpfD1/v+bNiv78cjXCL iZmur15C4vAS6vt1r493X3hYLk9C+TZnqINIU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=E0drosieFGBOtvLt1l0Xiy3EPYypKz6OM5dGDsR6x+TfDL1COxQylg4pLEkzyY6r06 RIX5OL5epIOZv+nX3MvFFBaXbLHEF5Byr3lcg6NvnhZzW0cTbcqr/fIWyKV25t9tPwXm rjG/TNc9M2yKl8jtDF9t0O6ZvRgvHUPaEPjd8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <37f071c00907261356q384ad385ude68ef5f06593e01@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00907261700l1607de78q3ddab846286dd3f0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:41:42 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907270241q49db746t47907b4a79a29d97@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:41:43 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:54 AM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Oh, btw, most of you (myself included) who are being critical of this > music (I'm looking at you Per, Krispen, etc... ) Hey - I never said I'm "critical"! I said it's interesting listening because the dynamic ensemble playing. And then I thought it would be fair to tell the group that I actually never have been a big fan of this music - but that's just personal taste! I've always been more into more melodic music and less melodic (noise based) music. But this group's music was neither nor to my ears. Some folks like it that way - and that just means we have different tastes. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 10:07:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E92403BE86; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 236226758/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.227.63/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.227.63 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0BAJoZbUpPTuM//2dsb2JhbAAIklm7YIQNBYl+ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,276,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="236226758" Message-ID: <4A6D7FDF.3070207@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:22:23 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <0CAE6A8A-5042-463B-84A0-369FF1B6DC22@grubmah.com> In-Reply-To: <0CAE6A8A-5042-463B-84A0-369FF1B6DC22@grubmah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Mark Hamburg wrote: > You can tell his bass player must be a looper: she plays barefoot. > > Mark > nope, her boots with 9 inch blades were banned by health and safety From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 12:07:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8AE13BE87; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:07:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:07:11 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Message-ID: <20090727120711.282840@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <603C4377-64F6-4538-B4AF-F6AA0F3750BC@laurelmurphy.com> <995b11efe76b6af909302c6130348c4d.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18jic07Dy8jMcAIg1OS4hx5OX/RWFOvqWu9/abDcP djWhRpXSQIjXks2S8FoFxIcXYD+eLaoFq/cA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: CfwFB0cPbHIhUdsjwjU01QgiJihyatBw X-FuHaFi: 0.61 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:07:14 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks aaah, MOLT ('modes of limited transposition') one of my favorite topics,nice :-)) Anyone have more good resources on MOLT? Some more suggestions for pitch shifting, try things like: - Halftone/Wholetone Scale (+2HT/1HT alternating) so that would be +1/+2 halftones alternating. I.E. C-D-Eb-F-Gb-Ab-B-C - Circle of Fifths (+4HT/+3HT alternating) For example, +4HT/+3HT/ alternating. i.e. C-E-G-B-D-F#-A-C#-E-... When you take intervals that add up to 7 Half-Tones = a fifth, you will get harmonies progressing as fifths (or fourths if you like). in this case Cmaj7>Gmaj7>Dmaj7>Amaj7... - Feedback level / delay volume The further you get from your basic pitch, the lower the volume. So, when your variations get weirder, they became silent, barely audible - nice effect. best regards Buzap -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 13:36:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 466723BE85; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=MNMKpaLBX819feYXva3Oc5PFH1BQ+Qat3QN/IcGbE2Y=; b=PK9AEGU+d5vDMIEskPlJzakMWoPGitkm3iY0UeVKUNGAFlllgbuq5zUgPzKn+miOoo BQsuvu9tOhsu/WJUVC11PA2UHoaJPXq3nyVwqbo2uB2pMH1B1ecNbYd4I3+A/ZJYfE1h L3V7SSa56A2c58Gd9HiT0Mz7b7jAfe9Iv9Fbc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=mPAhkvolYRywEVJOLTwj4UpZMnw87ZQrIhX/0L5LFO1rF6L4vGGQbpO3BQdzFXne8U MnOQaI1AqwkqVzVF1A0t1aiOuIsnzdLdeTsCB8DddOlVwbZcZ9oevtEz+PcNiTLK99OP m/3XPWVyydi8JaWmWhAb29x7nk0d+1r2pWSmo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20090727120711.282840@gmx.net> References: <603C4377-64F6-4538-B4AF-F6AA0F3750BC@laurelmurphy.com> <995b11efe76b6af909302c6130348c4d.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <20090727120711.282840@gmx.net> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:36:01 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ca10080fd270c387 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907270636h65ee0932tff5299d46160d6f5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be5e217f126046fb00a49 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:36:22 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be5e217f126046fb00a49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > - Circle of Fifths (+4HT/+3HT alternating) > For example, +4HT/+3HT/ alternating. i.e. C-E-G-B-D-F#-A-C#-E-... > When you take intervals that add up to 7 Half-Tones = a fifth, you will get > harmonies progressing as fifths (or fourths if you like). in this case > Cmaj7>Gmaj7>Dmaj7>Amaj7... > there was a good resource about the "Circle of 5th" posted on LD a few years back... I wasnt interestd then, but I am now.. can someone elucidate me or point me in that direction... (reason being was that someone came up to me after my last gig .. winked and said "Circle of 5ths ???" and I gave him the masonic handshake and hoped to be inducted into the 33rd order.. alas.. so it seems I was "doing something that he thought I knew about but didnt"... been seaching for it ever since... -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174be5e217f126046fb00a49 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
- Circle of Fifths (+4HT/+3HT alternating)=
For example, +4HT/+3HT/ alternating. i.e. C-E-G-B-D-F#-A-C#-E-...
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there was a g= ood resource about the "Circle of 5th" posted on LD a few years back... I wasnt interestd then, but I am now.. can someone elucidate me or point me in that direction... (reason being was that someone came up to me after my last gig .. winked and said "Circle of 5ths ???" and I gave him the masonic handshake and hoped to be inducte= d into the 33rd order.. alas.. so it seems I was "doing something that h= e thought I knew about but didnt"... been seaching for it ever since... =



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--0015174be5e217f126046fb00a49-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 13:47:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FE823BE84; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:47:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PJvIW23NOsGVEb2iNinooaeH461woRYDMkCyDl1Zd3U=; b=uh6jD1sGAKzKnzVfhFXtnoLMuCFf8MXrVWuhWAqjhlxLp4ufDUBvJ7o0zrqIDdFVtW 497F5w8nhtkTb8Y9kegvWz8EQjVD3eyHZGfw3QvD7OjaJ+4AlgvStRfckzPhHxNL0PA2 9goKjpmT9JsZgsa7hXXWpY0AUSkVezL4V9nhw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xswAWGtY6uID1MH4PzgJ+PrkoHjm5CnJHWzHchQprU3PtqJT/N78mxFSxXgQZYHehK n5k5rvPCUOkAPq7xYcqwWJNVSTXJTJHSXz7msj010g/PwDO7sacZSxBxThi+8ndyfsqN Gvy4wcL7iVAHhDUGYSkIsZrXAxyhiti22lVuU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907270636h65ee0932tff5299d46160d6f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <603C4377-64F6-4538-B4AF-F6AA0F3750BC@laurelmurphy.com> <995b11efe76b6af909302c6130348c4d.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <20090727120711.282840@gmx.net> <9ab0c76f0907270636h65ee0932tff5299d46160d6f5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:47:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-HsO9C.A.izB.a_abKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:47:06 +0000 (UTC) start here ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_fifths 2009/7/27, mark francombe : > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > >> - Circle of Fifths (+4HT/+3HT alternating) >> For example, +4HT/+3HT/ alternating. i.e. C-E-G-B-D-F#-A-C#-E-... >> When you take intervals that add up to 7 Half-Tones = a fifth, you will >> get >> harmonies progressing as fifths (or fourths if you like). in this case >> Cmaj7>Gmaj7>Dmaj7>Amaj7... >> > > there was a good resource about the "Circle of 5th" posted on LD a few years > back... I wasnt interestd then, but I am now.. can someone elucidate me or > point me in that direction... (reason being was that someone came up to me > after my last gig .. winked and said "Circle of 5ths ???" and I gave him the > masonic handshake and hoped to be inducted into the 33rd order.. alas.. so > it seems I was "doing something that he thought I knew about but didnt"... > been seaching for it ever since... > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 14:15:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 198403BE87; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [76.103.252.64] X-Originating-Email: [tygerman_gb@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Ty Gott" To: "LoppersDelightMailingList" Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:15:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_020B_01CA0E89.FCD81B10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8050.1202 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2009 14:15:51.0775 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF3486F0:01CA0EC4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:15:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_020B_01CA0E89.FCD81B10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for posting the link. I'm a huge Belew fan and enjoyed the video = very much. I've seen him several times and have a few King videos and = have seen one of him looping on a Boomerang by himself. I understand = everybody isn't a fan but he is looping and that's the biggest crowd = I've seen listen to live looping. He's a beacon of hope for all of us.=20 Teddy do you know any of the details on the rig he's using? Cheers, -Ty ------=_NextPart_000_020B_01CA0E89.FCD81B10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for posting the link. I'm a huge Belew = fan and=20 enjoyed the video very much. I've seen him several times and have a few = King=20 videos and have seen one of him looping on a Boomerang by himself. I = understand=20 everybody isn't a fan but he is looping and that's the biggest crowd = I've seen=20 listen to live looping. He's a beacon of hope for all of us. =
Teddy do you know any of the details on the = rig he's=20 using?
Cheers,
-Ty
------=_NextPart_000_020B_01CA0E89.FCD81B10-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 14:25:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75A873BE8B; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:25:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [76.103.252.64] X-Originating-Email: [tygerman_gb@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Ty Gott" To: "LoppersDelightMailingList" Subject: Re: FRO's rig - The Wandering Madman Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:24:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0216_01CA0E8B.4A6BC420" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8050.1202 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2009 14:25:11.0563 (UTC) FILETIME=[0CDD65B0:01CA0EC6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:25:14 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0216_01CA0E8B.4A6BC420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for posting the shots of the rig. I've been on a large hardware = rig for a long time. I'm building a new software based rig for myself = and am presently very interested in rigs. I like how you have it laid = out and recognize much of the gear. What's that grey box up top on your = right and the round guy on top of the drum kit? Are those cameras? I like the walls too, nice. Thanks! -Ty ------=_NextPart_000_0216_01CA0E8B.4A6BC420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for posting the shots of the rig. I've = been on a=20 large hardware rig for a long time. I'm building a new software based = rig for=20 myself and am presently very interested in rigs.  I like how = you have=20 it laid out and recognize much of the gear. What's that grey box up top = on your=20 right and the round guy on top of the drum kit? Are those = cameras?
I like the walls too, nice.
Thanks!
-Ty
 
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 14:35:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB00C3BE88; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.182.223] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <37f071c00907261356q384ad385ude68ef5f06593e01@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00907261700l1607de78q3ddab846286dd3f0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:35:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2009 14:35:53.0062 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B3A6060:01CA0EC7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:35:53 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- > So I'm put off by the thought that one could consider any music 'dead' and ready to be put in storage. Yeah, me too. Who said that? "Dead" seems awefully harsh. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 14:39:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C0AE3BE7C; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:39:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.182.223] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <37f071c00907261356q384ad385ude68ef5f06593e01@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00907261700l1607de78q3ddab846286dd3f0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:39:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2009 14:39:50.0612 (UTC) FILETIME=[18D1A140:01CA0EC8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:39:51 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- > Oh, btw, most of you (myself included) who are being critical of this > music (I'm looking at you Per, Krispen, etc... ) attempt pale > imitations (that I quite like) of the music that this man pioneered > and you should be honored to lick Adrian Belew's ball-sack. Well, I don't think I was being that critical. I framed my language very precisely to suggest what I felt about the music, vs. making some aesthetic judgement about it. Hence, I don't think the music is uninspiring (as I think that is a meaningless statement), rather I am not inspired by the music. Those are claims worlds apart, and the latter says more about me than the music. Lick his ball sack? Disgusting, man. :) K- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 14:43:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF5AA3BE8C; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:43:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9YtSpTVoGT7tGl1nkUpAXFiA5PvYx8fvLZ/yakVTJq0=; b=PrqcF3uKjhg++E0Vbryglpq4slm/y6JSSZDvrjwuiAWc202ixrGLqZfCKc2KAaZmFv Gz17Pn98Ihy8rxAc6Ck/e4byHCE/IJnS002B/caiRD6JNPh8wfreuDhqO2VH9RJSb30t 0CCDyApWMTFTHPCMXEsW8n/UILMY5rWMdk/+0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sg/DMpndcmWLvMW6DpPx04l6yfVvqpueCSK3Ig9W2xJnijbukwKhxUS9zFUy4rWSWq //SrF87EpJCcA6HmhhxfkeFalbVU+JJqsI1++uD2pwCwtutFRXo4+avV2yedyd2Ui7Ut gnAQFjNm3dhVH8xSkfJCSyNhDBMMGIpprTDe8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:43:14 -0700 Message-ID: <1318f21d0907270743x7584ab1bk78065e1181278dfe@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FRO's rig - The Wandering Madman From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644cc6e5547a2046fb0f965 Resent-Message-ID: <-BiAj.A.9fE.D0bbKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:43:15 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644cc6e5547a2046fb0f965 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's an amazing rig! How did you get the setup time down to 20 minutes? It looks like it would be a pain to wire up etc. I'm alway curious about what people do to minimize their setup time... -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --0016e644cc6e5547a2046fb0f965 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's an amazing rig! How did you get the setup time down to 20 m= inutes? It looks like it would be a pain to wire up etc. I'm alway curi= ous about what people do to minimize their setup time...
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--0016e644cc6e5547a2046fb0f965-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 14:43:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90B9D3BE93; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1248705800; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=T7hhGRoC1rp33gmT3CDOp+XpGeU=; b=Ioee3F7HaaysmBMg2TtKfiyyM3ZrOVsj6mFV0++gZ9Ppm29Ldhhl5GSB6e+g34CC mPbqXd3YIRRjEsNL9Fm+25SG7Fpcz83l2LPE3WZF8URNGOOWhBZRasIfpWxR2EUL; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=3EMLiBmfbLcA:10 a=MXjQ8GWZAAAA:20 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=O6FRKR9HwX0NHxLCSh0A:9 a=56gCCJGnnPtqPVW50TyvdhQ72vIA:4 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=gE7PR0o8kWQpEqfJ1gEA:9 a=nYPJ8dpjvkcehgkicWMA:7 a=BneLSF5oiqeTDumNzz4paGaxMtcA:4 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000e01ca0ec8$95e325a0$83812245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:43:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA0EA7.0E87AB60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:43:21 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA0EA7.0E87AB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pretty good article on his current rig here: http://tinyurl.com/mnt8f4 j http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ty Gott=20 To: LoppersDelightMailingList=20 Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:15 AM Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Thanks for posting the link. I'm a huge Belew fan and enjoyed the = video very much. I've seen him several times and have a few King videos = and have seen one of him looping on a Boomerang by himself. I understand = everybody isn't a fan but he is looping and that's the biggest crowd = I've seen listen to live looping. He's a beacon of hope for all of us.=20 Teddy do you know any of the details on the rig he's using? Cheers, -Ty ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA0EA7.0E87AB60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pretty good article on his current rig=20 here:
http://tinyurl.com/mnt8f4=
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----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ty=20 Gott
To: LoppersDelightMailing= List=20
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 = 10:15=20 AM
Subject: Re: Livelooping with a = band..amazing!

Thanks for posting the link. I'm a huge = Belew fan and=20 enjoyed the video very much. I've seen him several times and have a = few King=20 videos and have seen one of him looping on a Boomerang by himself. I=20 understand everybody isn't a fan but he is looping and that's the = biggest=20 crowd I've seen listen to live looping. He's a beacon of hope for all = of us.=20
Teddy do you know any of the details on the = rig he's=20 using?
Cheers,
-Ty
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CA0EA7.0E87AB60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 14:49:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCB263BE8D; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.220.182.223] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <37f071c00907261356q384ad385ude68ef5f06593e01@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:49:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2009 14:49:07.0409 (UTC) FILETIME=[64B21C10:01CA0EC9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:49:07 +0000 (UTC) "aren't museums for dead things?" Not always. Have you been to museum of natural history? Some things are still alive. Model T's are in museums, but there are people who still drive them. :) I believe I've been to a museum of the history of music, can't recall where, where fusion is shown on the timeline of innovation. So, things can be in museium, but still re-enacted in the present. K- ----- Original Message ----- > hmmm... it was original the first time he did it... but now he's done it > too many times... too many copycats... agreed... but, the fact stands > that he invented a ton of techniques on the guitar that a lot of people > learned from. Maybe he's finished innovating but that's no reason to put > him in a museum. He's still alive for god's sakes... aren't museums for > dead things? > > Teddy > > > On Jul 26, 2009, at 6:29 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> Well, I thought I was going to sneak in and get out, but apparently, the >> LD blackhole has me hooked again! :) Here we go again. :) >> >> Of cource, what I said is odd. Some wouldn't expect otherwise. It was >> partly in jest. I'd say the same thing about traditional jazz, country, >> or any past genre. The thing is, you can probabl find this style of >> music and other prior genres in museums of music, mainly because, >> well....it's history. There is nothing wrong with that. I appreciate it >> and think people should still play it. I even play it once in a while. >> I think it needs to be preserved, so that people can see history in >> action in the current times. Is it novel, innovative and earth breaking? >> No. But that is another matter and discussion all together. I think >> people should continue to play music like this, in the same way I think >> people should study history and learned what has been done before. >> >> Kris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Krispen >> Hartung wrote: >>> They all appear >>> to be great musicians, but perhaps the music should be in a museum? >>> They >>> are great curators. :) >> >> >> That just strikes me as an incredibly odd thing to say about music and >> the musicians playing it. Put the music in a museum? I didn't know >> this stuff had a sell by date (some recording techniques, sure). I >> guess in that case most blues, jazz, classical and so on should be put >> away to leave room for the fresh music of today. >> >> My appreciation of music is always changing, what sounds boring one >> day can inspire me the next. What I loved yesterday can seem dull and >> lifeless a few days later, only to come back full on the next year. >> >> Anyhow, that just seemed like an odd perspective to me. >> >> The worst part of that show to me is the editing (hey let's try to >> make it as frenetic as possible). >> >> Kevin >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all >> trouble. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 >> >> > > Teddy > -- > PS. > -- > http://teddyjam.com > new live recordings, always > -- > http://myspace.com/teddykjam > friend me > -- > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 14:54:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 279E23BE8F; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:54:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=iEEau4E30M7KodgE54qsXeUwtrxPTNiYwWHICMS/MSQ=; b=GPdQ129o4d/0eN/CqqfPVk9LwyMchGFc/YcFIWyoYf7bZLBW0d5YaUX4Xox4BrC04I ZL/8vX/DRJimH5oIrV26QOyH79VyzdfmIlx+zHGSEgpsmp0/nn5YvTtB7PTc+VWENKcT e16VNrft+aWPrVMDpAJ0io8WvVIBz7qEmGQNE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=DZq5CuTYoqZELGRmFA+Bc6s9Kyka39q5ucvu6kMJqoPjvM+0uJiQf/g+x06Wxun1Wk 6s2B3s357EkpNVe7HJq+6cAOca60fXztb6NvdGmzcyUfBrpKTtXIF8lBod5d+MuIB6yX yD0X3opT9IruFdtbXi33XNo3V1F6nDjS9KZhc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <37f071c00907261356q384ad385ude68ef5f06593e01@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:54:34 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 55a7971deb6c60f8 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907270754v2f876fecle201a86ba743e502@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be134020eb4046fb123ef Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:54:56 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be134020eb4046fb123ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > "aren't museums for dead things?" > > Not always. Well said... At Oslos Technical Museum there is a new installation this month... its... Music Machines... thru the ages... HURRAH! http://tinyurl.com/m3uyqj* * M --0015174be134020eb4046fb123ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Krispen= Hartung <i= nfo@krispenhartung.com> wrote:
"aren't museums for dead things?"

Not always.

Well said... At Oslos Technical Museum th= ere is a new installation this month... its... Music Machines... thru the a= ges... HURRAH!

http://tinyurl.= com/m3uyqj


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--0015174be134020eb4046fb123ef-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 15:21:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE1C83BE88; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:21:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [76.103.252.64] X-Originating-Email: [tygerman_gb@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Ty Gott" To: "LoppersDelightMailingList" Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:20:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_026B_01CA0E93.1C9B6D90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8050.1202 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2009 15:21:28.0669 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9C6E0D0:01CA0ECD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:21:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_026B_01CA0E93.1C9B6D90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the link. Way cool dude. I like your mySpace stuff, made a = great sound track to the rig article. Cheers, -Ty ------=_NextPart_000_026B_01CA0E93.1C9B6D90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the link. Way cool dude. I like = your mySpace=20 stuff, made a great sound track to the rig article.
Cheers,
-Ty
------=_NextPart_000_026B_01CA0E93.1C9B6D90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 15:22:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E31A73BE8D; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:22:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1039 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:22:37 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yznuEn8ax+M4M60jgwr42c3IkQnZxIqXrpBO5nHYnvk=; b=RM24HLs+B4Au24eYb/ZvoYoUpiqxGixtWNNv9KRMAqEPMQu9EzVSx4WctAAZd68B6q D+ERnCzTv7SkZqbPBEdRV2z9qlwFoNqz57uy01nZ+2l2CY+NINy6+/L+FUAhvmoRJkUl CtAt2CZUOzzuykHHJuSfcO6Z1YlAkcagmzR2A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Km7TKfVgZkvfOrsJ9aKrk/A8+5XtLTCKr9YQwq9XWN3gGN+IFcHXIxAp8h2saglPZ0 RZL2RPO5pXhj0tnl7WcTXepbOVDQyS21sHyNMk2j6wxrOLo6t1eHl7GD/w8YtKFs7ypG Qpb0lMFEHhGscAYk/VdE+zBmz3tgekOlAB5wY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <37f071c00907261356q384ad385ude68ef5f06593e01@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:57:38 -0700 Message-ID: <1318f21d0907270757h15c051c0gb5f548c5cf56538e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636af0366d106be046fb12c7e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:22:37 +0000 (UTC) --001636af0366d106be046fb12c7e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff, Thanks for posting that link! I was a big fan of Belew-era Krimson. It's great to see Adrian playing. -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --001636af0366d106be046fb12c7e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jeff,
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Thanks for posting that link! I was a big fan of Belew-era Krimson. It= 's great to see Adrian playing.
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--001636af0366d106be046fb12c7e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 15:36:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 149233BE92; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1248709002; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=4A8EcynKIOJPZ2RLAu0R4WpCUXQ=; b=AI1gJ0CLdSQlrUpP0QCQAteuNPQhMUEEB7/S6Y9RpG5g02bToXNaVBI+eLyWHM7b 0+rqcwR1n/KpGgsyi9VCwLJsbODJ29y0o3l7eSbu7VF1WujtRf8AEX73mlqjis9E; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=3EMLiBmfbLcA:10 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=xyvDJjJygbEkgxl5btgA:9 a=OEIiBsZ1bVNbry8GhahzgR-tE_8A:4 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=Hijf3o5gUnoY65dgllAA:9 a=KoZBvKBvXiF6WBWD8ycA:7 a=oODJwq6DhtB9pIqiEUNG8RqLOVkA:4 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001201ca0ed0$0a404110$83812245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:36:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01CA0EAE.82F31EB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:36:43 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01CA0EAE.82F31EB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey thanks Ty, Belew and Fripp were big reasons I got into looping. = Pretty amazing that Belew uses a Boomerang plus. I always read about = noise and poor sound issues with it. (not my experience btw). And the = use of the Bose monitor system being a key point in how they can sync so = tightly to the loops without using headphones. Now if I had the what? = 10,000$ for a AB sig Fly......I still wouldn't be able to play anywhere = close to as well as him. :) j http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ty Gott=20 To: LoppersDelightMailingList=20 Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Thanks for the link. Way cool dude. I like your mySpace stuff, made a = great sound track to the rig article. Cheers, -Ty ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01CA0EAE.82F31EB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey thanks Ty, Belew and Fripp were big = reasons I=20 got into looping. Pretty amazing that Belew uses a Boomerang plus. I = always read=20 about noise and poor sound issues with it. (not my experience btw). And = the use=20 of the Bose monitor system being a key point in how they can sync so = tightly to=20 the loops without using headphones. Now if I had the what? 10,000$ for a = AB sig=20 Fly......I still wouldn't be able to play anywhere close to as well as = him.=20 :)
 
j
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ty=20 Gott
To: LoppersDelightMailing= List=20
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 = 11:20=20 AM
Subject: Re: Livelooping with a = band..amazing!

Thanks for the link. Way cool dude. I like = your=20 mySpace stuff, made a great sound track to the rig = article.
Cheers,
-Ty
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01CA0EAE.82F31EB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 15:44:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A2203BE98; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:44:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1248709478; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=XR7ttm2eYVUPW5S8Lw9YC5pXGus=; b=VY6NO3UPdGZDP5PNh4vz3fp0d4ualzDWXKVVs4KQHWttRwBoYYZAxuvPGSnwFTVG GhCFnr9Li4C9sb/eO293BSL5o4y8wVvBTDiAmxuGHH8+Oog8PdNZij2HGE4v7N8W; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=3EMLiBmfbLcA:10 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=kVb9dPA7OPAHhpsyOy8A:9 a=gVfgDSEbwOK-DVfN3JGawnxTiM0A:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=qOihL8HJXoxMntw-ulIA:9 a=0Xl8mR9NrQ4Sph2xgSAA:7 a=IQEl3Nsx9FxF6Kb8SzeC8pvfQkcA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001b01ca0ed1$25bedea0$83812245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <37f071c00907261356q384ad385ude68ef5f06593e01@mail.gmail.com> <1318f21d0907270757h15c051c0gb5f548c5cf56538e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:44:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01CA0EAF.9E740630" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:44:39 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01CA0EAF.9E740630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hehe thanks George, wow amazing the thread a little tinyurl can start = around here. I hope KC drags it's old bones up at least one more time, i = mean why not, I always dig em. I am fortunate to have gotten to see them = a few times. Most bands wouldn;t even attempt the stuff the pull off (or = not). Anyone who thinks KC didn't rock check out the dvds "Eyes Wide = Open" and "Deja Vroom". But what do I know I am one of those dinos..:) j_ http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace ----- Original Message -----=20 From: George Ludwig=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! Jeff, Thanks for posting that link! I was a big fan of Belew-era Krimson. = It's great to see Adrian playing. -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01CA0EAF.9E740630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hehe thanks George, wow = amazing the=20 thread a little tinyurl can start around here. I hope KC drags it's = old=20 bones up at least one more time, i mean why not, I always dig em. I am = fortunate=20 to have gotten to see them a few times. Most bands wouldn;t even attempt = the=20 stuff the pull off (or not). Anyone who thinks KC didn't rock check out = the dvds=20 "Eyes Wide Open" and "Deja Vroom". But what do I know I am one of those=20 dinos..:)
 
j_
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 George Ludwig
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 = 10:57=20 AM
Subject: Re: Livelooping with a = band..amazing!

Jeff,
 
Thanks for posting that link! I was a big fan of Belew-era = Krimson. It's=20 great to see Adrian playing.
 
-George
 
http://www.myspace.com/= georgeludwigmusic
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01CA0EAF.9E740630-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 16:55:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DC053BE86; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jVqvBb9E7oC0UEYC3qYXCRKkUZlKe1A/Nw5K/+00Zj4=; b=M3qFXqbABjusgz8aHt6kTBnvgOEvHPfo3WWjRXx2HSMIseFPMuCsDIi4vEzBbfiRy8 Wjr4AxcSfxO1h2N879leolPQPGkSH6/m+02Xg+w5LO9BvA5m+CzVSEpzYwSInXugIG/M J/Xu1DbidIORta3Tou6KIBTs4amdFuPe4mDjg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=qaM8IF0ytR8Q2vCIQO404cx36EWn2t/YeSdKsFD5LuHzmRnyLacdI/6gnu8GHCoGtM V1B9ILQRHYUFqViazB/DzjytKVBE7lPoyS7Bwq+5XI/QfY2D+Rj9FaQ2Vm+PR+se7BT8 sr7r0AygF/3ZU1OUS4n+wfWo4fihTuJSRgDgc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:55:54 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907270955m3897eeb8n7124c61e9ecb34eb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: FRO's rig - The Wandering Madman From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:55:57 +0000 (UTC) > its finally looking pretty ;o) here are some pics for your viewing pleasure- Fro, you knew you wouldn't get away without answering some questions, didn't you? ;) 1. Full gear list: I can recognize some of the stuff (like Alesis QS8, what looks like a Behringer FCB1010 with chainsawed-off expression pedals, FRM RNP (?), Fireface800, two Fantom Rack units, MOTU MTP A/V, and a Line6 POD X3 Pro), but apart from that... 2. Wiring chart, please! Including audio and MIDI (and video, and computers - are there any?) 3. I'd also like a video where you set that up in 15 minutes, please...and finally, 4. where's them damn loopers? Best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 17:44:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF1C53BEC1; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ok3vQCXRJr5nIPNJGz8qwqSPmJcAoskJRLOKw/Z5tC4=; b=t0t6O2jolbUngI1bTL3HLj6s1JJf4vVDEtzU+RXeIBowVJZjXgubHZ45Q8wAgJmEnj gOXh8+xE3GXB2r0EXoYGe8DBpJdV9vYrH3RixysPhrkP4HfQhxT1Po5mw/Ck3pSytAEa y0vHzYVlMxH2o5UDyQkkIVePnzmiNeHFF5xSU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Osx2Vc1C2D8aC0/gEO5SEcFIAVfjClq2hcBdLFZal/IO6XCPt6OPpEnIkjL4q5NVpC RXKELMxT8G55hOeq225LS8CT23J0y1x2oVL4IOHjpZjKaCAmzKR23uNOtvhNKRysWlkQ fkwm6JILhQl/Vc1roCL33Z9NYa+BjqtL+2+8A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000601ca0e0b$30b926b0$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01ca0e0f$e4f5e920$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> <37f071c00907261356q384ad385ude68ef5f06593e01@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00907261700l1607de78q3ddab846286dd3f0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:44:30 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Ooops, I'm sorry. I probably have lived in San Francisco for too long. Not my bag, but lots of my friends here think it's quite fun. I'm sure there must be homosexual Adrian Belew fans who'd jump at the chance. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Lick his ball sack? Disgusting, man. :) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 17:58:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C286A3BED8; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:58:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7wa3lMpdMFTKMZJrsDYeuCuJM5xGTG6ARHmE9fIFZy0=; b=Lgxheu0qU6c46s14hO2CiFe6HOczF5Ua3JQb4DqrvvQe7K+lXoTdTBXbpwE7ZIrEOA YRBBE5Qe8iAkr98eGw/LXi5yGZkiCpBMLCuEm3HcKY+YitgbUFXXsbphJKd4Lv0Pu1WO fguYItpvLaKdc0TxZ+0q1u0GNQHVxaL/AcbO0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=geq9api2Gl4eJrbhtIkL73+SgYgkK2r/mMjs6aKEDuG6TTm8qHGbSXAu3HlKrmoHqE 3/KXwNsF4VPIVDcgFgJ31h1eLKD+pSM/rJrmPPKf6+rDk6juyJSv1tj72Mza/JxlxN4Q FGIi9LLpRStfGhc1RKHsbIKzm0hcLR9AACO64= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:58:16 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: midi sequencer needed From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636eefa7ece5acd046fb3b2c0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:58:17 +0000 (UTC) --001636eefa7ece5acd046fb3b2c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit chaps - i need a small, cheap, hardware midi sequencer that i can use to send out looped patterns of midi notes, pc messages and cc messages anybody know if the yamaha qy series will do this? any other suggestions? thanks in advance! sim --001636eefa7ece5acd046fb3b2c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit chaps - i need a small, cheap, hardware midi sequencer that i can use to send out looped patterns of midi notes, pc messages and cc messages

anybody know if the yamaha qy series will do this? any other suggestions?

thanks in advance!

sim
--001636eefa7ece5acd046fb3b2c0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 18:13:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52C0C3BE88; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:13:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248718432; bh=2i2bqavjJk44h/t6NpBV98mzTpl8c6rFAUQYOgAGgRM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=04pVQiQDW7mmARypHa5CQto+gSDYB+Edp2bSJ5oXyZRsSC+mxytMWzXH7NrZVchSxOtKmgbuF5sLt6rE/L9naiPCK6KERCOQwOYfE2EGC+nJpVk2IPbuGdXARNFjvYHVfkoYGOZRWHEIC6p6/B9hCrFZmoayfCHxKO5Wsv0JYmk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1MjaEt7lmoYMd1vn+v7PxaHnrLv4lRa4PVGC3770yJsixjtYjXoD2aj72ji+3hiLVaW4cltJvvNiU/NlPPjvwKNul3fXPT3KRFs6V7QlyPkiPZ5s+RnDbylv4nCuVJhmrXqD/XDRUggAhbzhapxRcFPcUpe7zdOWLvHDDOmvOqE=; Message-ID: <206088.50192.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: TbEyRDUVM1m2nSKPJC75Ef.rGOJGRLrFsmZl8IBxWPz4sYRvmRC4h96YYtBBlZrOtUx6s.y0I3RP4USlByGWSK5u.5TC4NcgxuMV1mZklqXWFng4XiWM0c4WFLT84Azx6SVxlAl.vM_y7my92kwTJv1anBN8PZSVv5xto53KQDqQUMR_m22_D6uOk_0lsiwnNu1CtBSS_Y6t.XH.k1hNeOHlzmfvcsFrQWhAJ3YEWlh4dJrQyGU3nDEj5Jrn6krwT3DamNJXnU2vRXC6ICIQcacOGvhJv8_47m3r.ClhBJJ50BmTY.mqGeU- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:13:51 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000d01ca0dfc$ed3c9290$6f832245@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1281659458-1248718431=:50192" Resent-Message-ID: <5aDJeC.A.yNE.g5ebKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:13:53 +0000 (UTC) --0-1281659458-1248718431=:50192 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 Nice video. =A0 Love the grrrrrowl the bassist gets - it's almost Geddy-like; and she's ver= y deft at switching between a pick and fingers....=A0 It looks like she's p= laying a Duck Dunn Series Lakland.=A0=20 =A0 =A0 Ted H. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Sun, 7/26/09, Jeff Duke wrote: From: Jeff Duke Subject: Livelooping with a band..amazing! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 7:25 AM Adrian Belew Power Trio A fantastic show with quite a bit of livelooping incorperated. http://tinyurl.com/l2vcw3 j_ =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0AYahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookma= rk your favourite sites. Download it now=0Ahttp://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. --0-1281659458-1248718431=:50192 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Nice video.
 
Love the grrrrrowl the bassist gets - it's almost Geddy-like; and she'= s very deft at switching between a pick and fingers....  It looks like= she's playing a Duck Dunn Series Lakland. 
 
 
Ted H.

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From: Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
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Received: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 7:25 AM

Adrian Belew Power Trio
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Optimized for Yahoo! = Get it Now f= or Free! --0-1281659458-1248718431=:50192-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 18:15:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F5C03BE84; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CRakcFB1XLTS89+tprmh8GO7NDHtvdkD4wnNoaXmfd8=; b=XwYR7WliiaYjX7jzHMP9GaOo8Lxt4vVwB4U4it1+dpgDWop/XrQoJGUCB3zHvH40gq ryR8CBKECeYlAZcsTj5eTyTk7nVcgW8cTiO+BFF+G98sWaDND4VDwDz8v/annc6ggDry ZkylFqyKsPJuIL/JpXd1MMrCiD+ATttEPv/bM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KcDydPgqSpsGuyZ1uKb6M2uUw7z4+SYxM5MkOnKRJNgxtFfba8Qm2S7c3vk0/tMRKD kKlR2WXlU9uL9caxl1pp1xXiLoqiWOiM+m17tTmdskLRTEnjAmRoj2KuRX4sIU4YwGcb w3tEEaD+fYJPu9WYepmRO8NQu3IZs0jTrI2LA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:15:13 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: midi sequencer needed From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:15:15 +0000 (UTC) consider some cheapo drum machines with internal seq.or midi import capabilities. 2009/7/27, Simeon Harris : > chaps - i need a small, cheap, hardware midi sequencer that i can use to > send out looped patterns of midi notes, pc messages and cc messages > > anybody know if the yamaha qy series will do this? any other suggestions? > > thanks in advance! > > sim > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 18:32:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCB923BE86; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Qh7NeetJWaZf+PP31O2dnK+FiI9GzHGehI5I1+DwKcQ=; b=h+nh/eI0T3BzDMmw7gyMvQ/YSoacNykm0ZcmqHDB9lHtAthhWGz6Gz5AnvFPxfq3fa Q9CH6ocB5hlPxb66uCG6ddl1f3hxqsWJiHzH5x7osnOFg4CqcWvTO0gbTI6SR2DCGNrH B+pa7AUupwfBk11dFbrJlLxDEcVRFJ4tDHBO0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CsTBWiErS5S13alBqVe5QGkkvNnAS9zHhpmjCY1iX722FWlo6kPgN1bpfEkLCwRvEG TflOuY2OIRLAsCqYWuyz/dHN7w6d1LHnsyNQk3njBmQRsLRVpVFr8LJPErAvYOce1B2U Gy8AZt90o8qRmJma06BRHUKshpMsMxXdjHCZE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:32:08 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907271132q4f2a97bcx96ba39b13a6f05fc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Livelooping with a band..amazing! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0pI56C.A.U4E.pKfbKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:32:09 +0000 (UTC) I noticed AB uses the same cabinets as I do, those small 1x12" Marshall Lead Series. I have two of them and love the typical sound they deliver! I've never like that typical 4x12" Marshall cabinet sound much, it's just too much bottom for my taste - at least when playing with a band that has kick and bass. I think these small ones have a better "bite" and more open tone that matches a strat well. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 19:08:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 820143BE87; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=IHK6Bm6paI1wMEJU4wyVpmfwCgzqvnwbFyCu6nhvCfPVYAC3BMBCTsfhJKXw0Rde; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <2403600.1248721735707.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:08:55 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Front Page Looper Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48dd58d972832a39bc7f9c989a94b5fe2ca8438e0f32a48e08350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.45 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:08:56 +0000 (UTC) the San Fran Chronicle this morn: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2009/07/27/MNPV186KQN.DTL&o=0 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 19:56:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D77E03BE84; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QclwSVM2EuNxFm30uz7wLWzKDLf40orBmLx/RCEZrfA=; b=rMfhhOf3f646w+MnyOfyjQMpkidjocEZfQbiYBTi5fwo22sI9o7QJuz2DbYSRlNngi FkY5zH5LmZSD1z3jp70HSvXx9cc/W6xzHKP8ii+IN/PoTzmVT9orzrODhmsL8ZibdFAP 6CkUSy85wZ50TqE6GQOU9YKQo2Cfu8H+MQyBw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cKMjv3ihK80AexZD72gR4w7QPn80IZHkybdEJ1NRDjDD05leW4V1CZrlMQOEHWQ7S2 0it5RcFr0P3Ud7NmHbTGw4/OZpA8IwQ7PO8vxezyTseEr4vK39U/AmR6DMSg6ERQ8DMu Rl3obVdrvxlMN+dxa1qdff4WnZtJmkVdtuOvY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2403600.1248721735707.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <2403600.1248721735707.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:56:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Front Page Looper From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:56:24 +0000 (UTC) "Regular folks" ? I've talked to Zoe and she's anything but regular, unless we're talking digestion ;) I'd say she's clearly worthy of more twitter followers than Justin and Paris combined. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:08 PM, wrote: > the San Fran Chronicle this morn: > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2009/07/27/MNPV186KQN.DTL&o=0 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 20:03:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B082C3BE8A; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:03:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fMC6BOxhFlJIvahKYCxXrTu5WuklQEViX4mPmATuDF4=; b=pyKoL8HB+Z1Kaw1ccjSx43eDVAwiVB9hHVonMsShtZMomiMwu1Nr108DhcR2XmTgXI fYjt0R1zcWfA2oX44QtwZHSoG/IbXGSVl1j4FuxoKZO3GD2tMS9Sl8OfwYYHF6I6gCcW Mk21/W/BfiQrnA4E/JotIw+drbfo7ITPHi/Hw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=J1aV65hs2ocBiu7w16losNjicI5RjWfGcInNZ7afm1B2DleYHqxUDNRjNXdQ5C3uSm 94OSufCMBHDnS8JUsWCxu+kxGFa2TzXubhdz0nML1rz7ybymNgVA7kKoeExYsZ2l/plU pmJooME8oAzRmvaexisswWEN98QhvAAnxiCpU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <2403600.1248721735707.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:03:52 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907271303t50633c85pc970a45ec4a422e9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Front Page Looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:03:53 +0000 (UTC) Loopers-Delight should sue the San Fran Chron for leaving out "looping" (only write about "Twittering") :-) just kidding Well, no publicity is bad publicity nicht wahr? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 20:15:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC9C93BE7F; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:x-priority:date:references:x-mailer; bh=QAJqaIk89U7DH5LYxyT3E3KMEewHqSSO6mFUN1FJWmw=; b=tE/X1zT5JxDnE/9zRDL6z81t6TX3Tref7B1xfq8HeQLpfWCZH6d+lwuTD+Etzyskkn 0Cveb193BNTG245ODb+nd3Go+auFOnOV9MSqEZJt3zwFnQzLLJYPccjpkjAu2BExMnMG 0YVzoHi9JZxGW1vMV/gs8PJuKIIXlo7mJGHFQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:x-priority:date :references:x-mailer; b=B2qIV9plHX6AASCbMrW/UlG2df6W0ObhO8NhnnJc3zMPaOFclr31VToolN/3cOfc+F +SOfqRHRvXI4wEU3W1n+jgB2npIeokCuv2gVFgOM2a1IIUBP9qFVywdRD5fxNhuNgIVM TmZeRC2DbukUzP8He42Y/O1fbQj7AkYDvns04= Message-Id: <42307B8F-3277-4DAA-808B-70D1C1592F1A@gmail.com> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090724074441.59030@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 X-Priority: 3 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:15:11 -0300 References: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> <20090724074441.59030@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <1DODR.A.wQ.rrgbKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:15:39 +0000 (UTC) hm... sounds created with your mouth are much more real than samples, especially because the sample is always the same (or the same few) On 24 Jul 2009, at 04:44, Buzap Buzap wrote: > - Drum Replacer http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/whats-new/#overlay-drumreplacer > That would be really cool for me to enter drum patterns via > beatboxing and having them transformed into real sampled beats. Wish > it would work also in real-time... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 20:33:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39E183BE88; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:33:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:33:51 UTC Message-ID: <4A6E0EEC.3040107@dehnhard.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:32:44 +0200 From: Tilmann Dehnhard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody References: <603C4377-64F6-4538-B4AF-F6AA0F3750BC@laurelmurphy.com> <995b11efe76b6af909302c6130348c4d.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <4A6C11D2.4020107@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0907260847m131a9b61r772064942e36c453@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907260847m131a9b61r772064942e36c453@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+LSGmYyDu0qh59vgWaTTk2EEHj1fjJb8nAjPG ONbN0QSfgd+5MThkfasmnHs6P9iWUY8AULEp6K7NqRFKMmKO6/ yk6eYI5qEgwfBTs9DlxCMkT1EKT321r Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:33:52 +0000 (UTC) the blob will have, if i calculated right, the following notes: c eb e g ab b a nice messiaen-like sound. bob mintzer calls it "a scale for all occasions", a teacher of mine called it "the toxic scale". tilmann Per Boysen schrieb: > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > >> this combination +4,+7,+11 results in a 7th Major chord. bossa?? ... >> > > Yes, if the harmonizers are routed in parallel (the sharp 7th, not the > flat - like we use to type it "Xmaj7"). If routed as a chain though, > wow... then we're talking some fat cluster like blob here.... Except > for all the doubles I see a tritonus added (7+11), then a minor third > in the octave above the major third (4+11). > > Actually, I take back the comment about "blob" because when I'm > playing that chord on my guitar here right now it sounds pretty neat. > Wide, fat and shimmering of many overtones. > > Per > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 20:42:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33B4A3BE88; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:42:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=Br/7KROH1IlI0FaEPjqVEE8a4uuEsQaCl4cxfxVojrA=; b=FofZ/WO3atih7Y4+uLBclUd18gWipwuebbiGWRG7yXjVBXq2l8T3l8bDJ53xDV5lMU h2v6x0PTzSnzi0ODQJCrsF8qYUTJVBSU7lFxSSU7R1TZCT3RKShmTOrv7qYaPZxQ6+A4 bnnEn+CAcTLrXf86/cjXuSWI7qYnNvmHzNo9k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=ne1JLKsZz5yA24SjRp5Eqt0921Lh/QO+9f8IC79m+nVaUHet1OpczTli9iKXiISh12 z9CwP2NGFdGmeIbPEwx2MLZwwMfhEWJFiyEqNRKqOTwNGe/UmcTjTUFnTMmTUy3uheAT +FJUJvaF+vSR7dSzRhEzhyYtkmzN/OfKcgNQA= Message-Id: <8B2C15AB-B4CC-48C8-A6B6-795A8E0AEA58@gmail.com> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequencer game) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:41:56 -0300 References: <4A69AD9E.6030401@cruzio.com> <4A69B9EF.7050009@het.it> <9AE7C6BA-3964-4766-9BB8-1EA2EBE8AE6E@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:42:23 +0000 (UTC) thank you Mark! Sorry, I dont think that the music which such tools do us much good. Even if the controller is smart and expressive (which most are not), the problem is the sterile electronic sound. for me its similar to the idea of the food pills: even if they bring the flavor of the best cooks of the world... always exactly equally perfect... they never vary! sure, most people do not have the time to really learn to play an instrument, but they are better off playing a pan with some water in it, or a rain stick... and thats the reason why I still spend most of my day trying to spread the livelooping idea: its every time new! Matthias On 24 Jul 2009, at 21:59, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Here's one that won't crash your computer Matthias... ;) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SGwDhKTrwU > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Matthias Grob > wrote: >> yes, its beautiful but it did some noisy breaks and finally killed >> my whole >> OSX which hardly ever happened before! >> On 24 Jul 2009, at 10:41, Massimo Liverani wrote: >> >> Yess!!! and have you also aldready tested this other?: >> >> http://www.hobnox.com/index.1056.en.html >> >> it's real amazing! >> >> >> Rick Walker ha scritto: >> >> Wow, this is fun!!!!! >> >> http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#9r8XKj/lab.andre-michelle.com/ >> tonematrix/ >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 20:44:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5E5A3BE85; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wcwkP0kHhDX2gu2TcWbKuMb13FU+NAEqCugZrByNBL4=; b=R2xJETUwGSsU+1HP2teCr4d664KqTDtEPxSxB0xCl0s3UhonaQ+NCoMX5JblradTQo EbmXBz9xAfaOogD19JzI6ovH/lr81ktYxrwmmcdCS8efLtE+DUeFQxdH6r6+cC4XtE4k 6nXXQ3Nw9tZFpMqb7WY4kZ8OwVbSdQjXhGnwU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=M4S7Byh+rrmDiCgCV8ASK4BcpksaZE6LpTrHnKW8UXEAz6/JO8yZrk7+sv4BviW73A T0KDOJCcfS7ChL88Ie3p13yxdUFAi1g79Uqc4b+L3BZavwEg1vzkJkJqWL7OJmyheAa1 cgv1rhg3qB38MEg7aEp+lGGE0FTPGDIkkV+m8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:43:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: midi sequencer needed From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dbe6dc646840046fb602c5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:44:38 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dbe6dc646840046fb602c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit don't drum machines only output midi notes? i've not heard of midi import, but that wold be useful as i could write the sequences in Logic and then import them into the drum machine - is that how it would work? sim > > --0016e6dbe6dc646840046fb602c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable don't drum machines only output midi notes? i've not heard of midi = import, but that wold be useful as i could write the sequences in Logic and= then import them into the drum machine - is that how it would work?

sim





--0016e6dbe6dc646840046fb602c5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 21:05:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7E4E3BE8A; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: , References: <2403600.1248721735707.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Subject: RE: Front Page Looper Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:05:16 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoO/C72izt7rnorRyGK5cj5RchWDwAAIy3A In-Reply-To: <2403600.1248721735707.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Really cool to see her on the front page this morning, Go Zoe!!! Bill PS, more twitter time means less music making and LD blogging time...think about it...;-0 -----Original Message----- From: stanitarium@earthlink.net [mailto:stanitarium@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 12:09 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Front Page Looper the San Fran Chronicle this morn: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2009/07/27/MNPV186KQN.DT L&o=0 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 21:14:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 903B23BE98; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=E/2fysHQnpaSBA+b1uDltpN/pDJHcjvVYeTJtnRO1Mw=; b=pfRFbcY8cYIZ/tuE3TJXg46WoZkm632r/mwesqBryZvQU4HNfpw8rZeZPSChL4BLCH PZ9VhM20lLfR5hODevO0SWy6q7txN/op/1zcdrEvVDXz9cm9onqbmygUFgpVet/l0E2Z sjXyjJUEpDNj12lVlsvQVBvdB1/L88YFQ5UAc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ikosE8UXpCc8vUt17PG9MK1pPdXelT81kvR4QcUBglrMwA61G5lfHkrqpdzF3cxGuz TnSDFhQ/jT3js4Ogr8DMLyL8zh6tE6IAgQBmqgtG/rX8F5gMy0+0FUvZBc2fu8YFKJ/3 D1hpScWsRZJXnhqUJKbn6ytyEW1EpGQ14ZQiE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8B2C15AB-B4CC-48C8-A6B6-795A8E0AEA58@gmail.com> References: <4A69AD9E.6030401@cruzio.com> <4A69B9EF.7050009@het.it> <9AE7C6BA-3964-4766-9BB8-1EA2EBE8AE6E@gmail.com> <8B2C15AB-B4CC-48C8-A6B6-795A8E0AEA58@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:14:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequencer game) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:14:20 +0000 (UTC) All depends on your point of view. I think that music totally created with something like the Tenori-on can be sterile sounding, but when juxtaposed against acoustic and electro-acoustic instruments I think you can get a really interesting effect that sheds some light on the human/machine interaction and "highlight" the imperfect nature of a human playing a traditional instrument in a way that's different than when alone. Kind of similar to a rapper singing over an 808. One of the things I love to use it for is it's "random" tracks which let you put points on the grid and then the sequencer collects the "dots" with a tone each time the dot is reached. Not very random on it's own, but then you can "spin" the dot matrix which is constantly changing the relationship between the dots. Not really random or chaotic, but it can add a nice effect to a stiff rhythm. But what do I know? There are 4 robots currently within 5 ft of me. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > thank you Mark! > > Sorry, I dont think that the music which such tools do us much good. > Even if the controller is smart and expressive (which most are not), the > problem is the sterile electronic sound. > for me its similar to the idea of the food pills: even if they bring the > flavor of the best cooks of the world... always exactly equally perfect..= . > they never vary! > > sure, most people do not have the time to really learn to play an > instrument, but they are better off playing a pan with some water in it, = or > a rain stick... > > and thats the reason why I still spend most of my day trying to spread th= e > livelooping idea: > its every time new! > > Matthias > > On 24 Jul 2009, at 21:59, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > >> Here's one that won't crash your computer Matthias... ;) >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_SGwDhKTrwU >> >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Matthias Grob wrot= e: >>> >>> yes, its beautiful but it did some noisy breaks and finally killed my >>> whole >>> OSX which hardly ever happened before! >>> On 24 Jul 2009, at 10:41, Massimo Liverani wrote: >>> >>> Yess!!! and have you also aldready tested this other?: >>> >>> http://www.hobnox.com/index.1056.en.html >>> >>> it's real amazing! >>> >>> >>> Rick Walker ha scritto: >>> >>> Wow, =A0 this is fun!!!!! >>> >>> http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#9r8XKj/lab.andre-michelle.com/tonematrix/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 21:18:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 680193BEBA; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rQCG/lLzAIVGPhIq0g76CCbylQreIzuGz81Dt/ZLfR4=; b=a1DB7vIVMCyZVj3QbXKf/hO87DJMco+BEcpLtdqTqxa6y9kKfGBs0ckpBvP1gD16ml KzfzaeUJHgKaIGoUZ1ArDy3JaiKYWVnS2VuNZ4l1GlWcYCtuWtRMlY3OEOpB+Wz8HRVE mTsKCnBOOfj1pIHtF9gKH6ekQtLLNrIUbY/5c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=a0C4eRE3XWFigiGyNJRNphmzQ7Jay9YMpPTvXTpvxND4wzRoJfej1IgWOSpft2SEJn NO9C3t/rG6vKpXtiuvmpc9wpcO0Y2TAzdcb8PNGWwb4EzTfs49H0xooSeRU9aR8THspW OdEoUPnnINvKeEOvjepVv4UO61GvgEY5UZXNI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:18:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: midi sequencer needed From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dbe6dc4695f0046fb67e32 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:18:21 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dbe6dc4695f0046fb67e32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit actually, i think i've answered my own question - the yamaha qy-70 will do everything i need, so i'll try and pick one up cheers sim On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > don't drum machines only output midi notes? i've not heard of midi import, > but that wold be useful as i could write the sequences in Logic and then > import them into the drum machine - is that how it would work? > > sim > > > >> >> > --0016e6dbe6dc4695f0046fb67e32 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable actually, i think i've answered my own question - the yamaha qy-70 will= do everything i need, so i'll try and pick one up

cheers
sim

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Sim= eon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
don't drum ma= chines only output midi notes? i've not heard of midi import, but that = wold be useful as i could write the sequences in Logic and then import them= into the drum machine - is that how it would work?

sim






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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 21:54:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBEFF3BE87; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:54:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A6E0900.2060304@flyloops.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:07:28 -0700 From: Aaron Leese User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: front page looper References: <66f9cc1e0907271132q4f2a97bcx96ba39b13a6f05fc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907271132q4f2a97bcx96ba39b13a6f05fc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:54:35 +0000 (UTC) Yeah - I just finished reading that too ... great photo of yah, Zoe, congrats on all of it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 22:11:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE22B3BE85; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--157432217 Message-Id: <1D3DBE88-3E36-42F5-8CFF-EB33444C81CA@ubergadget.com> From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: midi sequencer needed / Korg SQD-8 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:11:47 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:11:55 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--157432217 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Not sure if this would help, but I thought I would offer it. I have an older (1987) Korg SQD-8, 8 track midi recorder that I don't need and never used. Got it in a package deal long ago with a bunch of other stuff, but never used it, and don't even know *how* to use it! :-) But, it is real clean looking, not a scratch on it, etc. No power source, but it takes DC9V, and I have the owner's manual. It also uses floppies for data storage. Has midi in / out / thru, and a mini-plug phones jack. I'd take only $20 for it, plus whatever the postage might be. It would also be *one less thing* laying around in my limited space to have to deal with, which would be just fine with me:-) Cheers, Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ On Jul 27, 2009, at 1:43 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > don't drum machines only output midi notes? i've not heard of midi > import, but that wold be useful as i could write the sequences in > Logic and then import them into the drum machine - is that how it > would work? > > sim > --Apple-Mail-1--157432217 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Not sure if this would help, but I thought I would offer it. I have an = older (1987) Korg SQD-8, 8 track midi recorder that I don't need and = never used. Got it in a package deal long ago with a bunch of other = stuff, but never used it, and don't even know *how* to use it! :-) =  But, it is real clean looking, not a scratch on it, etc. No power = source, but it takes DC9V, and I have the owner's manual. It also uses = floppies for data storage. Has midi in / out / thru, and a mini-plug = phones jack.  I'd take only $20 for it, plus whatever the postage = might be. 
It would also be *one less thing* laying = around in my limited space to have to&n= bsp;deal with, which would be just fine with = me:-)

Cheers,

On Jul 27, = 2009, at 1:43 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:

don't drum = machines only output midi notes? i've not heard of midi import, but that = wold be useful as i could write the sequences in Logic and then import = them into the drum machine - is that how it would work?
=
sim


= --Apple-Mail-1--157432217-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 22:27:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34D273BE8A; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:27:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248733627; bh=ygMeFJYpr7bHQ0S6HYhrghAUnefW6uQdJ+n6otL6mG0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=AGRWJUZIhxt+S4k/FKwV2JlkuO8qkErFTLvxRCL+RLxI1a8UGnsTycfjVSmdENWzrP3oKdXNQHTqKS56ZR5n+nTgAENvkuBqsvZD+AS5hbH6Cy3WrhxVh8XqwEPb309mrAVTrfGr1i4C02xA2Wau0OTGXRpMEGDOFzc4ybVV9L8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QrnT3qoM36yg3D1StDvCh45Eu3J8QbPVhFZq3QRvjAL76i6B3CMskW8krmbi6cupxAiK4zxNckPqj8XAhAdDVvhxj5abOCp9Up5AVOkc0NNWEw0/AG4TIRKX275vMEZWYj6VtCbE0wPqNSxPLtFGx1sKw0jkBrpP1P1DYYfAlII=; Message-ID: <981091.98604.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:27:07 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:27:09 +0000 (UTC) agree,i could never warm up to that program either it should be called unlogic;-) www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Os schrieb am Do, 23.7.2009: > Von: Os > Betreff: Re: new looper in Logic 9 > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Donnerstag, 23. Juli 2009, 13:38 > > Any thoughts on Logic from > y'all? >=20 > ignore it. >=20 > go get Live. >=20 >=20 > os. >=20 > --=20 > os@collective.co.uk > http://twitter.com/expertsleepers > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 22:28:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 081863BE89; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_NLnIfOOXJsBDNCKs7N+Kxg)" In-reply-to: References: Message-id: From: Toby Graves Subject: Re: midi sequencer needed Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:46:43 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:28:48 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_NLnIfOOXJsBDNCKs7N+Kxg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I've used a drum machine as a sequencer(receiving data from elsewhere) but it wouldn't play sustained notes. Might be a note off issue. \t On Jul 27, 2009, at 1:43 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > don't drum machines only output midi notes? i've not heard of midi > import, but that wold be useful as i could write the sequences in > Logic and then import them into the drum machine - is that how it > would work? > > sim > > > > > --Boundary_(ID_NLnIfOOXJsBDNCKs7N+Kxg) Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I've used a drum machine as a sequencer(receiving data from elsewhere) but it wouldn't play sustained notes.  Might be a note off issue.

\t


On Jul 27, 2009, at 1:43 PM, Simeon Harris wrote:

don't drum machines only output midi notes? i've not heard of midi import, but that wold be useful as i could write the sequences in Logic and then import them into the drum machine - is that how it would work?

sim






--Boundary_(ID_NLnIfOOXJsBDNCKs7N+Kxg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 22:34:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 089B83BE87; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:34:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248734044; bh=ibBZljgLngbX7FHpRUi1baU26V7j2lyg0HNqjIcK1jA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Hyd+bIu4Ck5MqRrxXihedECdaOXJMyhOCg+w+KqItVCABG+RPOFXVe6LOjqle/KqKrnyaASKTrpWkTjqQh8b+Ok85DYyW8CSn/p2oDZuyRxBXoFPZaZT7OwxAu0/zivmWBicIbxRSNCmTP+SlcPZsKn20r1qJnn7KDDARqQszds= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=krYDYFqINocRR+kRHvsqygf26TWCQX8ypbaA4tj2ysU5JMpWNsKy/r7UuiA+yvpdPoByOMvoDloyOFBC+/9byfMlCzMCoBWfzNmy8mT8p0Nc2SJhsQkFxvxOelwHwLb74A4zWw7FEi55kwKgQfjA0u48rf4Fv+4oWia3pvmidNY=; Message-ID: <736259.52039.qm@web24308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:34:04 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:34:05 +0000 (UTC) It seems Logic has gotten better,i gave it a try a while ago i think it mig= ht have been ver.5 and didnt like it at all,it just kept crashing and dint = find it very intuitive either,hope it does it for you though good luck in t= he journey! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- tEd =AE kiLLiAn schrieb am Do, 23.7.2009: > Von: tEd =AE kiLLiAn > Betreff: Re: new looper in Logic 9 > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > CC: "Raul Bonell" > Datum: Donnerstag, 23. Juli 2009, 13:14 > I just recently got a new MacBook Pro > that's pre-loaded with Logic 8 Express. >=20 > I have not messed with the program yet.=20 >=20 > I launched it and registered it. >=20 > And then I went online to buy a book/DVD to tell me how to > use it. >=20 > Any thoughts on Logic from y'all? >=20 > Recommendations? >=20 > Caveats? >=20 > Ted >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 22:48:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9705D3BE8A; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:48:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248734923; bh=K5jHIj74ZSiIJ0nIzG100vZtlx/8awlwW4/50mhhw0U=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=PdKLPvwZxyRhn8zf8sSp+I4NP4tz1uXsl8uQ2ePXXoj0n19EfGTGYpHFCS+s9+xLHK6iTd+OCVnpFIJS5VsItVawf9oy5u09FFchGlnUGcKyUAJx+ayvkff1Sbk+o/AXYqNifqOL7/IfYNzG83dUh3CXeYOyeKiUtmMsYGpZ3P4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wVJLAjSCgCUd/OZgrOSGuRDUOiXLNa48CaUv/RFzoqG3bCn6UtacsdMXEFxLsbhcIrgund0nu4kEHro9q2uWmE1dcwGcHr+12mUPMGSlJlxIzN/gTvRCwIvCcx4NzmtqesRKqIetBMVk7Yx2Ud+Ketc8XyLRJLtQEpzkmgQIfWw=; Message-ID: <304857.75946.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:48:42 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <3b-AQ.A.w8F.M7ibKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:48:44 +0000 (UTC) moltto bello mi amigo!! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Fabio_A schrieb am Do, 23.7.2009: > Von: Fabio_A > Betreff: Re: Polyrhythm looping (WAS: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Tu= rntable) > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Donnerstag, 23. Juli 2009, 10:08 > Rick, we're on the same way > ! > - Nik Bartsch's RONIN resides in my car player > from 3 weeks, and I haven't get enought yet ! > You had the fortune to meet him in person, but I well > remember the exact moment when Bernhard played that > music=A0in his i-pod trough my PA system=A0kitcken ;-) > I've immediately bought on line two of his album > and - being a Reich fan - I've so deeply fallen in love > with Nik Bartsch's music that in these days > I'm=A0practicing just on stuff like this. > =A0 > Here's a recording I made with Mobius a few nights > ago, with different time signatures: > =A0- drums and percussions (are not pre-recorded loops: > i've played them on my keyboard) play in 4/4 > - bass=A0part (later doubled with piano) plays in > 5/4; > - piano arpeggios play in 5/4 > - ther's also a steady=A0high note=A0piano=A0playing > in 6/8 > - and other embellishments. > =A0 > http://www.eterogeneo.com/podcast/Time_Signatures-Fabio_Anile.mp3 > or on my itunes > podcast > =A0 > =A0 > Fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > www.myspace.com/eterogeneo > =A0 > =A0 > 2009/7/22 Rick Walker >=20 > I'm just loving a few > things that I'm listening to right now > and not only wanted to share them with you all but wanted >=20 > to know what people are currently listening to. >=20 > Nik Bartsch's RONIN ---- =A0'Holon'=20 > just doesn't leave my =A0car stereo for very long. =A0 > I'm in love and it's also inspiring because > this music is just made for live looping experiments (as > Bernhard's lovely >=20 > and funky set in Rome and Zurich proved. =A0=20 > 2) All day (and as I type) I've been listening to the > lovely new >=20 >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 23:00:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 672A63BE88; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d485e0bf-9573-4434-a76b-ed13e830c471_" X-Originating-IP: [99.195.148.10] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: FRO's rig - The Wandering Madman Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:00:21 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <957D7C22-674C-43F5-B83A-AC82951B524E@ubergadget.com> References: <957D7C22-674C-43F5-B83A-AC82951B524E@ubergadget.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2009 23:00:22.0617 (UTC) FILETIME=[0549EC90:01CA0F0E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:00:23 +0000 (UTC) --_d485e0bf-9573-4434-a76b-ed13e830c471_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable @rev >Be sure to try to come to Portland=2COR. If yer considering this fair city (and you should be)=2C then let me know a good bit / enough in advance and > >maybe(?) I can help out in some(?) ways. thankyou my friend! i will definitely take you up on that...itll be awhile = till i make it to the west coast=2C but cannot wait to do so @raul >although pretty=2C as i suppose most of us addicted to gear will agree=2C >it's too much for what i would consider a portable rig ... thankfully i feel the sky is the limit=2C its a shame most people are conde= mned to 10ft ceilings- @mark >Of course we all wanna be able to jump on a plane and go to Santa Cruz (all but one at least) but sometimes I wonder... has the" market made the >product" again? I cant get PAID gigs in my city now... no bands are touring=2C no CD=B4s being sold. i think im stuck in the 70's even though i wasnt born till the 80's- i feel= music is meant to be toured...like a traveling circus...the nastalga of wa= tching music be created infront of your eyes is more powerful then the best= procuded of CD's-..i can imagine people riding horseback 100's of miles to= catch a glimpse of motazrt in concert....the ability to say "i was there w= hen axel rose caused a riot in st. louis!" is what its all about...... i b= elieve pink floyd's wall album was toured for 2-3 years before they actuall= y recorded the music to CD -=20 -thankyou for the rant and thankyou for the support @ty >What's that grey box up top on your=20 right and the round guy on top of the drum kit? Are those cameras? yeap=2C i have 5 cameras integrated into my rig which alows me to create a = DVD for every show i play.....then run to merch....duplicate and sell it- i feel its the best momento someone could take home from my show @george >How did you get the setup time down to 20 minutes? It looks like it would be a pain to wire up etc. I'm alway curious about what people do to >minimize their setup time... looms and multipin connectors help drastically....plan...calculate..re-calc= ulate....cut wires to length so that you dont have to guess what plugs into= where....also color code EVERYTHING @rainer >1. Full gear list: I can recognize some of the stuff (like Alesis QS8=2C >what looks like a Behringer FCB1010 with chainsawed-off expression >pedals=2C FRM RNP (?)=2C Fireface800=2C two Fantom Rack units=2C MOTU MTP = A/V=2C >and a Line6 POD X3 Pro)=2C but apart from that... >2. Wiring chart=2C please! Including audio and MIDI (and video=2C and >computers - are there any?) >3. I'd also like a video where you set that up in 15 minutes=2C >please...and finally=2C >4. where's them damn loopers? 1. you got most of it.... add an alesis sr-18 for click=2C mixer is allan &= heath=2C FMR RNC compressor=2C alesis i/o for drum triggers and yeap...FBC1010 taken to a jigsaw.....plus a few magic black boxes.... 2.ild rather massage my face with concrete- =3Bo) - allthough if i ever tak= e the time to make one=2C ill be happy to send it to ya 3.ill try to include this when i post videos in a month or 2 - p.s. 2 CPU'= s...1 mac for video...1 pc for audio 4.they're in my head =3Bo) =20 On Jul 26=2C 2009=2C at 7:35 PM=2C FRO DIDDLY wrote: its finally looking pretty =3Bo) here are some pics for your viewing pleasu= re- close to 2 years in the making=2C its finally portable- with gear side of s= tage=2C it takes about 15-20min for setup=2C 10min for tear-down- it weighs over 500lbs.... i should have videos up in another month or two- should be touring the U.S. hopefully by December....... ~!~!~The Wandering Madman~!~!~! =20 .....coming to a small=2C dirty=2C stinky=2C hole-in-the-wall=2C trailer pa= rk/coffee-house/crack-house/kindergarten near you....... hope to see ya there =3Bo).... xoxo fro http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s48/thecoherent/?action=3Dview¤t= =3DEuclid1.jpg http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s48/thecoherent/?action=3Dview¤t= =3DEuclid2.jpg http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s48/thecoherent/?action=3Dview¤t= =3DEuclid3.jpg http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s48/thecoherent/?action=3Dview¤t= =3DEuclid4.jpg _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 SkyDrive=99: Store=2C access=2C and share your photos. See = how. http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072= 009= --_d485e0bf-9573-4434-a76b-ed13e830c471_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable @rev
>=3BBe sure to try to come to Portland=2COR. If yer considering t= his fair city (and you should be)=2C then let me know a good bit / enough in advance and >=3B
>=3Bmaybe(?) I can help out in some(?) ways.
thankyou my friend! i will definitely take you up on that...itll be awhile= till i make it to the west coast=2C but cannot wait to do so

@raul<= br>>=3Balthough pretty=2C as i suppose most of us addicted to gear will a= gree=2C
>=3Bit's too much for what i would consider a portable rig ...=

thankfully i feel the sky is the limit=2C its a shame most people a= re condemned to 10ft ceilings-

@mark
>=3BOf course we all wanna= be able to jump on a plane and go to Santa Cruz (all but one at least) but sometimes I wonder... has the" market made the >=3Bproduct" again? I cant get PAID gigs in my city now... no bands are touring=2C no CD=B4s being sold.

i think im stuck in the 7= 0's even though i wasnt born till the 80's- i feel music is meant to be tou= red...like a traveling circus...the nastalga of watching music be created i= nfront of your eyes is more powerful then the best procuded of CD's-..i can= imagine people riding horseback 100's of miles to catch a glimpse of motaz= rt in concert....the ability to say "i was there when axel rose caused a ri= ot in st. louis!" is what its all about...... =3B i believe pink floyd'= s wall album was toured for 2-3 years before they actually recorded the mus= ic to CD -
-thankyou for the rant and thankyou for the support

@= ty
>=3BWhat's that grey box up top o= n your=20 right and the round guy on top of the drum kit? Are those cameras?
yeap=2C i have 5 cameras integrated into my rig which alows me to cre= ate a DVD for every show i play.....then run to merch....duplicate and sell= it-
i feel its the best momento someone could take home from my show
@george
>=3BHow did you get the setup time down to 20 minutes? It= looks like it would be a pain to wire up etc. I'm alway curious about what people do to >=3Bminimize their setup time...

looms and multipin connectors = help drastically....plan...calculate..re-calculate....cut wires to length s= o that you dont have to guess what plugs into where....also color code EVER= YTHING

@rainer

>=3B1. Full gear list: I can recognize =
some of the stuff (like Alesis QS8=2C
>=3Bwhat looks like a Behringer =
FCB1010 with chainsawed-off expression
>=3Bpedals=2C FRM RNP (?)=2C Fi=
reface800=2C two Fantom Rack units=2C MOTU MTP A/V=2C
>=3Band a Line6 =
POD X3 Pro)=2C but apart from that...
>=3B2. Wiring chart=2C please! I=
ncluding audio and MIDI (and video=2C and
>=3Bcomputers - are there an=
y?)
>=3B3. I'd also like a video where you set that up in 15 minutes=
=2C
>=3Bplease...and finally=2C
>=3B4. where's them damn loopers?=


1. you got most of it.... add an alesis sr-18 for click=2C mixer is=
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3.ill try t=
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or video...1 pc for audio
4.they're in my head =3Bo)








On Jul 26= =2C 2009=2C at 7:35 PM=2C FRO DIDDLY wrote:


its finally looking pretty =3Bo) here are some = pics for your viewing pleasure-

close to 2 years in the making=2C it= s finally portable- with gear side of stage=2C it takes about 15-20min for = setup=2C 10min for tear-down-
it weighs over 500lbs....
i should have= videos up in another month or two-
should be touring the U.S. hopefully= by December.......

~!~!~The Wandering Madman~!~!~! =3B =3B

.....coming to a sma= ll=2C dirty=2C stinky=2C hole-in-the-wall=2C trailer park/coffee-house/crac= k-house/kindergarten near you.......
hope to see ya there =3Bo)....
<= br>xoxo
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See how. = --_d485e0bf-9573-4434-a76b-ed13e830c471_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 23:10:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27AED3BE89; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248736208; bh=J8wjiHKC0BbS0rC2EcWiFs9nPo3Ig2bEWQhBzDZ52fA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FMBgI1T2UZzWuK5v8hOeidR9JD91j2osmf2Bz+GqtL83zp03yTjXKxyL7cgvo//Io2mC20S1fkqt1TFPKWY6lAEXA/zfWElg6KFmGjpeF0ekULVA5OFdW+5h2wp09/p+G7o5jYTnlQBMh0gz8VYp6JBSanF6BYuw3kkiP5EPQdk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DjaMAl0mQ8sqvOWO9Pk9mLNNGVvI76EayduFgaWUZtP7qtzmHCai0/haUh93BQvwKE6v2FA7Ab4eDNi5adjLicPbC6It2n0iRy3dp073Ej3hIemtJuJDpFpOxc7nIM8oN0KTiteU+tZ0FfbNjuMcRCO7fgfhH71BFCQDljgOSkA=; Message-ID: <692984.74482.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:10:08 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: best listening websites in europe(What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:10:10 +0000 (UTC) hey guys whats the best site to check out and listen to all of this undergr= ound music here in Germany or europe? Rhapsody which is great is apparently= U.S only thanx www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 > - All of Brian Blades's albums > - Daniel Lanois - Here Is What Is > - Daniel Lanois - Omni Series > - Nine Inch Nails - Ghosts > - A bunch of Ethiopian nightclub music > - Goldfrapp's latest > - Julee Cruise - The Art Of Being A Girl > - Tortoise - TNT mostly, but there latest as well > - Max Raabe > - Loscil - Plume (absolutely gorgeous) > - All of Juana Molina's albums > - The Pretenders - their latest > - Pixieguts (can't remember the album, it's free on the > internet) > - Rachel's - Systems/Layers > - Taken By Trees - Open Fied > - Tim Nelson's stuff (Mesh, and All-Nighter) > - I've been getting into Tarentel lately > - I, too, like the latest Jon Hassell album quite a lot >=20 > Peter Koniuto >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 23:21:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BD753BE8E; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4339 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:21:18 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=MJWdEn3Bhqx0iqEShXQOuq/k+RUMECuKmCupxIEJrUM=; b=NQue22tcaJxgfiEH8SZr7XDNn8ktEWL50HW0yTJnpRfRlFA1g2mtmqf+MKWVmkc7Od I+BiCQFbDa8WLzzXyNZCUeKPkfjV1DG7OfKmdT1JRzaIaRNQmam9zKCsX5QHGVTpbW6f VjFvkh7bna0sRcewvNzHDix7FWqMSQzIQItXc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hBjLyO47dyRk+xqCLqp7Xu29qUVgY+ZX1clDW72nIpoV+ZNAzYcD2thF5vqaHiePMe xjif5Nf0dIf5EsAzuKc0x5A3vtpCJGQpyn1Wz32eHlMKtSZMubQpVdLUqoBAwvi3eeLu Swi+jk+yzLW/0z1U9jby7NBSLTmKhBEGZPpxg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:08:59 -0500 Message-ID: <913728d60907271508m1c2d7af3v89f68cfc261a78ed@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Electrix MoFX fuse (a little OT) From: Charlie Milkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362836a071505d046fb733ed Resent-Message-ID: <4z2FX.A.hVH.uZjbKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:21:18 +0000 (UTC) --0016362836a071505d046fb733ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All! I realize this is OT and whatnot, but i need help and i know a few of you know a bit about electrix gear--anyways, I have the MoFX and i just blew a fuse--I can't find a replacement fuse in the area--i realize they are 250ma and 250V and whatnot, but i can't find the right size--can anyone point me in the right direction? if anyone can help, it'd be much appreciated! Thanks, Charlie --0016362836a071505d046fb733ed Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I realize this is OT and whatnot, but i need help and i know a few of = you know a bit about electrix gear--anyways, I have the MoFX and i just ble= w a fuse--I can't find a replacement fuse in the area--i realize they a= re 250ma and 250V and whatnot, but i can't find the right size--can any= one point me in the right direction?

if anyone can help, it'd be much appreciated!
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--0016362836a071505d046fb733ed-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jul 27 23:22:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E84F43BE95; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:22:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248736974; bh=m+pXjDspcSagNQqQP2TWMkiKR2lL53CsF7w6kpOVrok=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=aNqtxGsHRubAAs/iCODpQPv/vXbh8HZDd1Ofz09Oc8g/ZnjDTwpyobBdFuk4voODo1NQd0N2Tfpp4/MW0YNinZataTEf0UH9YELrFofaF9KkP5nOJYJyQIERivsuayd5D4v0DtWIYvKGy+AC8wVqsKJ3SWkcGCjfA454NkiEQwY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tFqNvJ4C0EluFwoxJEW7fVJMCinuMu7STqFZKC9DIrXl69dUYENwpvaYy4LdhAVXG2BgsSsDbb5WQW5aUN66F2brb7Is7A+ZcBRzWl5nOdnjzVqmkBvWeYxwp1YMNUiBiPr65rLX6AH0jVx5Pns3Vs/7AyiEQjxli0ozXZGIPos=; Message-ID: <726782.60372.qm@web24302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:22:54 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:22:55 +0000 (UTC) Hey Rainer thanx for suggesting an alternative to the Ipods!i have the i to= uch, as beautful as they are i find having to use Itunes quite anoying!=20 when i first started using it i made the big mistake of letting it organize= my files and coul=F6d not find them anymore,good thing i had a backup! wow man nice to hear you like what i did in Y2K9 and that those improvs are= in your recomendation list! cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Rainer Straschill schrieb am Mi, 22.7.2009: > Von: Rainer Straschill > Betreff: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable > An: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Mittwoch, 22. Juli 2009, 6:16 > Whow, Rick, a good idea to steer > discussion back into some more > interesting (albeit still OT) paths. >=20 > No, I don't have an iPod, and I really hate the white > headphone cables > they use. As for headphones for ithings and similar > mp3/media players, > let me just recommend the Bose thingies - highly > recommended (although > they were about double the price of my portable media > player). >=20 > Now let me just check the memory of my player: >=20 > Tool: Aenima/Lateralus/10.000 Days > Chick Corea: Akoustic Band - can't recommend this acoustic > jazz trio > highly enough. The version of "Spain" alone is worth the > album alone. > Jimi Hendrix: Are you Experienced? > Squarepusher: Big Loada > Dream Theater: Black Clouds and Silver Linings - their > latest album, I > have to say I don't enjoy it as much as some of their other > works > (including Systematic Chaos), but the third bonus disc with > some cover > tunes (including LTIA2) is fun! > Opeth: Blackwater Park - some outstanding progressive death > metal from > a group which was then (imo) at the peak of their artistic > quality (at > least so far). > Zappa/Beefheart: Bongo Fury > Dave Douglas: Convergence > Laswell/Inoe: Monochrome Existence > Antwerp Live Looping Festival - some of the tracks by > Michael Peters > and Luis Angulo are just killer! > Weather Report: I sing the body electric > Kruder&Dorfmeister: DJ Kicks/The K&D Sessions > Louis Sclavis: Lost on the way > Massacre: Meltdown > Rage against the Machine - Rage against the Machine - the > tune "Wake > Up" is so funky, it will drop your pants > Audioslave: Revelations - the last track "Moth" is the best > track from > this group > Ozric Tentacles: Sprials in Hyperspace > Talking Heads: Stop Making Sense > Conlon Nancarrow: Studies for Player Piano > John Zorn: The Circle Maker - Disc 2 > Naked City: Torture Garden > Evelyn Glennie: Wind in the Bamboo Groves > Rainer Straschill: Weird Specialist - yes, I still like it > ;) > The Boredoms: Vision Creation Newsun > Margaret Noble: West of Ashland Ave DJ Mixtape > Michael Brecker: Wide Angles - was reminded of him just > recently by > the list of WordPress release names > A Mental Collection: my personal metal playlist >=20 > @Jim Goodin: I believe the Towner album you're talking > about is called > "Solo Concert", if so, it's one of my favourites as well > (it's the one > that ends with "Timeless"). Legend has it that I actually > attended one > of the performances which led to this album without > actually having > been born at that time, as my parents attended the concert > with me on > the way... >=20 > Best, >=20 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0Rainer >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 03:57:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 627D63BE85; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=ONlkdDVBC1pvsVvhhNcyzPtz3D2LmjaTwXG+71A6doM=; b=J9IekFjOOY52OaKL+j0ha/+4a8mQDwbydkp/azPKanjNDZ+wzBEjQLyWl1gNlTyzm4 ZLH1JlG054RM6nYz4Wq1OON/Lc3XbMVPm78FENk6ZbtWBmAnTHXVRC54Yr8yvlfK2+0o 2jpZ9V/idQ4WkR5mFwSA5K7xPT9hMolqOWYmw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=vFno4dh8TkeFEBVwwmwA4bGjioeerb/UFBg9RXQcIxPjE2tXXutFgW8JuP+4P+GM5V PuU2FK5IufuLvA8gCtrQosdRxlIaQ/ezXZfP4JW/I+lGP5ovLBxv+jDgZ4/1UglEvRol PpYpOecBLW/1kOPcV3676doN8KwiwuZ0/bTkU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:31:08 -0400 Message-ID: <44e368750907272031q109f7da1vbb7d2c05fe16b26@mail.gmail.com> Subject: receptor looper From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6acc289132a046fbbb30b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:57:09 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6acc289132a046fbbb30b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i dug through the archives and couldn't find much...seems like none of the cool loopers work on the receptor. please correct me if i'm wrong. anybody found an edp/lp1-esque looper that runs reliably on the receptor? thanks. - jim --000e0cd6acc289132a046fbbb30b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i dug through the archives and couldn't find much...seems like none of = the cool loopers work on the receptor.=A0 please correct me if i'm wron= g.=A0 anybody found an edp/lp1-esque looper that runs reliably on the recep= tor?

thanks.

- jim
--000e0cd6acc289132a046fbbb30b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 05:05:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26CDD3BE85; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=J/cwegp27pVW0a7yprA2KIxQ1JXkpm7lf/aRtlV09AI=; b=bY9nhRJ1KsQH3Nx/QBGZ9joRsq/4mGC6vsmEkOnavwCQ//ZzETQXIyw5uyfiSua/+Y EDCqOT2mA4g4ddGGvV/q4o2MqTsga3OitMbsmNv8C+CV5WAiIsoW3Lo0LbYcDoUjmjTS Fhli/oNkenTpdwXb26aZEJb1HW14WaRT4XpKc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=emL3WZ3Bq7ZgGDRh+71c8yjHrS0b1OgGrfs0H16zk4/12L7GfQfHDABh0L5DclZlW8 SAKLKX4VS3Ig1dq9uqvM8QvmkWe+alugjPIJna0NxNAxHLj1XuyW7mC7t9I3JpYEU2Ut lZ42+Wr2WuS1SDXb9kJ9khV0cZwR44oX8azGo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <44e368750907272031q109f7da1vbb7d2c05fe16b26@mail.gmail.com> References: <44e368750907272031q109f7da1vbb7d2c05fe16b26@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:05:47 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: receptor looper From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:05:48 +0000 (UTC) You'll probably do better if you post this on kvraudio.com. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:31 PM, james fowler wrote: > i dug through the archives and couldn't find much...seems like none of th= e > cool loopers work on the receptor.=A0 please correct me if i'm wrong.=A0 = anybody > found an edp/lp1-esque looper that runs reliably on the receptor? > > thanks. > > - jim > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 05:34:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1710B3BE84; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:34:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 829 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:34:00 UTC Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A6E0900.2060304@flyloops.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: front page looper Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:20:03 -0700 References: <66f9cc1e0907271132q4f2a97bcx96ba39b13a6f05fc@mail.gmail.com> <4A6E0900.2060304@flyloops.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Server-Quench: 4f8d7110-7b36-11de-8e8d-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwdVfTALAxpo UEhAUlJUHgdoCxwH SBwaTBhxdxtCcGB0 YFlgW3JeQ0Q0K0Ae RzVQUDYGZmRjbWlR UUJZcE1QJgseeR5E ak14BnALfGQGMi99 TwJjM3VpZWwGeHlZ GV5SJlsEe0tZVjAm QBYeVS0mEkBNQyI0 NxE8QmMx X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1562/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:34:00 +0000 (UTC) thanks everyone. i'm sort of embarrassed by the story they made it seem as though i had nothing going on in my life before i was on the twitter suggested user list....and then to print that i live in a "shack". sigh. i've experienced little media explosions before...and for better or worse they all fade extremely quickly. that would be better in this case. i don't even spent very much time twittering! next year, we'll be onto something new..... On Jul 27, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Aaron Leese wrote: > > > Yeah - I just finished reading that too ... great photo of yah, Zoe, > congrats on all of it. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 06:00:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6648E3BE84; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:00:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1167 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:00:15 UTC Message-Id: <378DA813-686A-4D22-BC63-491EEB247B3B@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A6E0900.2060304@flyloops.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: front page looper Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:40:42 -0700 References: <66f9cc1e0907271132q4f2a97bcx96ba39b13a6f05fc@mail.gmail.com> <4A6E0900.2060304@flyloops.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Server-Quench: 32072791-7b39-11de-8e8d-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwdVfTALAxpo UEhAUlJUHgFoCxgE SBwaTBhxdxtCcGB0 YFlgW3JeQ0Q0K0Ae RxsMf2kGZmFhbWNR V0hZOQBWcARIeRZE d1ctV3oQYGRTM2do El8/emhpZGwPdSgO HV4GJEQoTBRDECQ7 QQxKBTwgEAUBQCIr IgZO X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1562/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:00:15 +0000 (UTC) i'm grateful to twitter of course. some really good things have come out of it. for example, i'm working with curt smith from tears for fears solely because we met on twitter.... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 06:55:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81E933BE84; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=hPWrBtKFWcpQIPfzIwIxWx0kQrl3PO6wTkbbh+Iv1z0OqlnrgnceJxzJuwnJWSwC3Ub+6CcVjthQXpaC47sH+YTVDMiStObdfZvM9pAq+MDF2zzOcg7fu/GbzZYKy1VL8OHK/wCMxWZHZFdYJo2g+EJ3s4e8Ft7rNKpizd0GBwQ= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: SRnF1AQVM1le5Pgu.ydaJlhx2x5LpVbx29hlKOvBBm5zSSDiNkjUq.y.lf2BSXM6nKVKbA0B2gDMvpNTriXKMQN.8meB6gkIa8gl7T182OmFJbOmEM54l0R.n.uJ5pjzMz9ioKQs8m2s4rcXrh.FrfMGP07eGV1MDaJ3LDyuBKFfJ0x6PQ.QInrrgVRdMMcpt7loMuHdlSS6MJJ2bv2nkob35MHIOjOy5XrZG4uJH_UnjrTHsAqrncMyhjeR__UWUUYckS2bNbcOEtqxkjB7yoa4p0kFrdbSHIYTE5AfKZMZBLFY0vVVqh81MLJiKX6E02vtqmy2XpGRLbz7X0BHSKOm5tAQwA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <692984.74482.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <692984.74482.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--126015827 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: best listening websites in europe(What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:55:23 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:55:31 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--126015827 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Spotify? Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 28 Jul 2009, at 00:10, L.Angulo wrote: > > hey guys whats the best site to check out and listen to all of this > underground music here in Germany or europe? Rhapsody which is > great is apparently U.S only > thanx > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > >> >> - All of Brian Blades's albums >> - Daniel Lanois - Here Is What Is >> - Daniel Lanois - Omni Series >> - Nine Inch Nails - Ghosts >> - A bunch of Ethiopian nightclub music >> - Goldfrapp's latest >> - Julee Cruise - The Art Of Being A Girl >> - Tortoise - TNT mostly, but there latest as well >> - Max Raabe >> - Loscil - Plume (absolutely gorgeous) >> - All of Juana Molina's albums >> - The Pretenders - their latest >> - Pixieguts (can't remember the album, it's free on the >> internet) >> - Rachel's - Systems/Layers >> - Taken By Trees - Open Fied >> - Tim Nelson's stuff (Mesh, and All-Nighter) >> - I've been getting into Tarentel lately >> - I, too, like the latest Jon Hassell album quite a lot >> >> Peter Koniuto >> >> >> >> >> > > > > --Apple-Mail-2--126015827 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Spotify?

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 28 Jul 2009, = at 00:10, L.Angulo wrote:


hey guys = whats the best site to check out and listen to all of this underground = music here in Germany or europe? Rhapsody which is great is apparently = U.S only
thanx



=
- All of Brian Blades's = albums
- Daniel Lanois - Here Is What = Is
- Daniel Lanois - Omni Series
- Nine Inch Nails - Ghosts
- A bunch of Ethiopian nightclub music
- Goldfrapp's latest
- Julee = Cruise - The Art Of Being A Girl
- Tortoise - = TNT mostly, but there latest as well
- Max = Raabe
- Loscil - Plume (absolutely = gorgeous)
- All of Juana Molina's = albums
- The Pretenders - their = latest
- Pixieguts (can't remember the = album, it's free on the
- Rachel's - = Systems/Layers
- Taken By Trees - Open = Fied
- Tim Nelson's stuff (Mesh, and = All-Nighter)
- I've been getting into = Tarentel lately
- I, too, like the latest Jon = Hassell album quite a lot

Peter Koniuto









=

= --Apple-Mail-2--126015827-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 07:21:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C4B93BE79; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:21:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Vj24TqtzdogBGm1Qp1TUrLJnWrT8aOeyxQ8x/UbXyIk=; b=DtOg0qJpqEeWZEaZxDPS5/Mtlk/iXLLCed6ufMH5YfARrd0AZ4xHhf1u5OSJb+ooMN Dfx+xVnDOt2J70wOsJa1Dw5kqS5zLXz84DVN5GNgKfO0JMP2778hcUsiZ2diSs5SV87T 4juvlMW7/NTCIha+labL+5MiuBpPxdDgNbaes= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=LmwMOmgiZVYgJ8rSIcX2r/z1E/Mk0iYzjhd8BcLgTyHkv31y3k2W50jC61wQpzKQCE D2JqRSf8z99Zt0vVdOydCVkhKxJu4JVQUlU0jK6eEhCkZubBZ5Vbyc3rUK7fsijdQkPD hbNuy2lkOOrXXgxKRX9nTeo5Qr9n3Cb5wpW/M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <8B2C15AB-B4CC-48C8-A6B6-795A8E0AEA58@gmail.com> References: <4A69AD9E.6030401@cruzio.com> <4A69B9EF.7050009@het.it> <9AE7C6BA-3964-4766-9BB8-1EA2EBE8AE6E@gmail.com> <8B2C15AB-B4CC-48C8-A6B6-795A8E0AEA58@gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:21:37 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fbddb0a9e0982e0b Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907280021r1fb0b083ic1ed7e0db54ca10d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequencer game) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bde44f9e285046fbeec0b Resent-Message-ID: <7itN7B.A.NED.WcqbKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:21:58 +0000 (UTC) --0015174bde44f9e285046fbeec0b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ha ha ha.. Have to say that on the whole i agree with you Mattias.. except for one small thing... I LOVE the sound of sterile!! And so does my wife! I= m not as much into it as her, but she actually hates music that you and I would say has soul... She hates beats that have ANY frills or swing or syncopation, (or rolls) . And she hate ANY kind of solo-ing... guitar OR keyboard... She can just about tolerate Kraftwerk, saying things like "They are a bit too melodic". She listens of 80=B4s german synthpop or techno onl= y (oh and Marc Almond, I think thats her one and only quirk into anything expressive) Much as I love the sound of simple instruments, lilke a rain stick or a drum... she would run screaming for the hils wailing "UGH ... HELP... ETHNIC!!!" My point is an obvious one, dont forget that all people are different, you and I love feel, and expression in music... Hilde, my beloved, would prefer that there was no human role whatso ever in the making of music... (Im very interested to hear that Mark S sits next to 5 robots... is it your band Mark?) Im really interested by what you say in your first sentance, the wording of it... you didnt say... I dont think that the music which such tools do is any good... but.. I dont think that the music which such tools do us much good. Are you saying that music made with these tools is actuall bad for US... us meaning the human race? This is interesting. I think I may agree with you, but I am less concerned about how the music was created but more concerned that people are listening to music in this way (plugged-in on white cables = - shut off from the world) as far as Im concerned iPod users are listening wrong, and that THIS is bad for humanity... Serious Question: Do teenagers nowadays, sit in their bedrooms with friends playing records...? *http://tinyurl.com/ledz8r* Mark > > Sorry, I dont think that the music which such tools do us much good. > Even if the controller is smart and expressive (which most are not), the > problem is the sterile electronic sound. > for me its similar to the idea of the food pills: even if they bring the > flavor of the best cooks of the world... always exactly equally perfect..= . > they never vary! > > sure, most people do not have the time to really learn to play an > instrument, but they are better off playing a pan with some water in it, = or > a rain stick... > > and thats the reason why I still spend most of my day trying to spread th= e > livelooping idea: > its every time new! > > Matthias > > On 24 Jul 2009, at 21:59, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > Here's one that won't crash your computer Matthias... ;) >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_SGwDhKTrwU >> >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Matthias Grob >> wrote: >> >>> yes, its beautiful but it did some noisy breaks and finally killed my >>> whole >>> OSX which hardly ever happened before! >>> On 24 Jul 2009, at 10:41, Massimo Liverani wrote: >>> >>> Yess!!! and have you also aldready tested this other?: >>> >>> http://www.hobnox.com/index.1056.en.html >>> >>> it's real amazing! >>> >>> >>> Rick Walker ha scritto: >>> >>> Wow, this is fun!!!!! >>> >>> http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#9r8XKj/lab.andre-michelle.com/tonematrix/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >> > --0015174bde44f9e285046fbeec0b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ha ha ha.. Have to say that on the whole i agree with you Mattias.. except = for one small thing... I LOVE the sound of sterile!! And so does my wife! I= m not as much into it as her, but she actually hates music that you and I w= ould say has soul... She hates beats that have ANY frills or swing or synco= pation, (or rolls) . And she hate ANY kind of solo-ing...=A0 guitar OR keyb= oard... She can just about tolerate Kraftwerk, saying things like "The= y are a bit too melodic". She listens of 80=B4s german synthpop or tec= hno only (oh and Marc Almond,=A0 I think thats her one and only quirk into = anything expressive)

Much as I love the sound of simple instruments, lilke a rain stick or a= drum... she would run screaming for the hils wailing "UGH ... HELP...= ETHNIC!!!"

My point is an obvious one, dont forget that all p= eople are different, you and I love feel, and expression in music... Hilde,= my beloved, would prefer that there was no human role whatso ever in the m= aking of music... (Im very interested to hear that Mark S sits next to 5 ro= bots... is it your band Mark?)

Im really interested by what you say in your first sentance, the wordin= g of it...

you didnt say...

I dont think that the music whic= h such tools do is any good...

but..

I dont think that the = music which such tools do us much good.

Are you saying that music made with these tools is actuall bad for US..= . us meaning the human race? This is interesting. I think I may agree with = you, but I am less concerned about how the music was created but more conce= rned that people are listening to music in this way (plugged-in on white ca= bles - shut off from the world) as far as Im concerned iPod users are liste= ning wrong, and that THIS is bad for humanity...

Serious Question: Do teenagers nowadays, sit in their bedrooms with fri= ends playing records...?
http:/= /tinyurl.com/ledz8r


Mark


=A0



Sorry, I dont think that the music which such tools do us much good.
Even if the controller is smart and expressive (which most are not), the pr= oblem is the sterile electronic sound.
for me its similar to the idea of the food pills: even if they bring the fl= avor of the best cooks of the world... always exactly equally perfect... th= ey never vary!

sure, most people do not have the time to really learn to play an instrumen= t, but they are better off playing a pan with some water in it, or a rain s= tick...

and thats the reason why I still spend most of my day trying to spread the = livelooping idea:
its every time new!

Matthias

On 24 Jul 2009, at 21:59, Mark Sottilaro wrote:

Here's one that won't crash your computer Matthias... ;)

= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_SGwDhKTrwU

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Matthias Grob<matilists@gmail.com> wrote:
yes, its beautiful but it did some noisy breaks and finally killed my whole=
OSX which hardly ever happened before!
On 24 Jul 2009, at 10:41, Massimo Liverani wrote:

Yess!!! and have you also aldready tested this other?:

http= ://www.hobnox.com/index.1056.en.html

it's real amazing!


Rick Walker ha scritto:

Wow, =A0 this is fun!!!!!

http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#9r8XKj/lab.andre-michelle.com= /tonematrix/





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--0015174bde44f9e285046fbeec0b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 07:25:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B45083BE88; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_042ebcdc-b61e-409e-8928-89f83a4a3087_" X-Originating-IP: [99.195.148.10] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: front page looper Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:25:14 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <378DA813-686A-4D22-BC63-491EEB247B3B@zoekeating.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907271132q4f2a97bcx96ba39b13a6f05fc@mail.gmail.com> <4A6E0900.2060304@flyloops.com> <378DA813-686A-4D22-BC63-491EEB247B3B@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jul 2009 07:25:14.0190 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C7926E0:01CA0F54] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:25:15 +0000 (UTC) --_042ebcdc-b61e-409e-8928-89f83a4a3087_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...i.......love........tears for fears....... one of my guiltiest pleasures..... this is your brain on drugs..... now add a childhood of tears for fears=2C genesis=2C the moody blues and th= e beatles and you get my brain.. congrats! whatcha workin on..... or is it top secret? =3Bo) send my love =3DD fro > From: info@zoekeating.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: front page looper > Date: Mon=2C 27 Jul 2009 22:40:42 -0700 >=20 > i'm grateful to twitter of course. >=20 > some really good things have come out of it. for example=2C i'm working = =20 > with curt smith from tears for fears solely because we met on =20 > twitter.... >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE: Search=2C add=2C and share the web=92s latest s= ports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=3DTXT_TAGL= M_WL_QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=3Dsports= --_042ebcdc-b61e-409e-8928-89f83a4a3087_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...i.......love........tears for fears.......
one of my guiltiest pleasu= res.....

this is your brain on drugs.....
now add a childhood of = tears for fears=2C genesis=2C the moody blues and the beatles and you get m= y brain..
congrats! whatcha workin on..... or is it top secret? =3Bo)send my love =3DD

fro






>=3B From: info@= zoekeating.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B = Subject: Re: front page looper
>=3B Date: Mon=2C 27 Jul 2009 22:40:42 = -0700
>=3B
>=3B i'm grateful to twitter of course.
>=3B >=3B some really good things have come out of it. for example=2C i'm wor= king
>=3B with curt smith from tears for fears solely because we met= on
>=3B twitter....
>=3B

Windows Live=99 Hotma= il=AE: Search=2C add=2C and share the web=92s latest sports videos. Check it = out. = --_042ebcdc-b61e-409e-8928-89f83a4a3087_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 07:25:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B1343BE8C; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_69bff66c-c0a1-42e7-b3f4-7cd1a5762a1c_" X-Originating-IP: [99.195.148.10] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: front page looper Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:25:16 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <378DA813-686A-4D22-BC63-491EEB247B3B@zoekeating.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907271132q4f2a97bcx96ba39b13a6f05fc@mail.gmail.com> <4A6E0900.2060304@flyloops.com> <378DA813-686A-4D22-BC63-491EEB247B3B@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jul 2009 07:25:15.0789 (UTC) FILETIME=[8D6D23D0:01CA0F54] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:25:17 +0000 (UTC) --_69bff66c-c0a1-42e7-b3f4-7cd1a5762a1c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...i.......love........tears for fears....... one of my guiltiest pleasures..... this is your brain on drugs..... now add a childhood of tears for fears=2C genesis=2C the moody blues and th= e beatles and you get my brain.. congrats! whatcha workin on..... or is it top secret? =3Bo) send my love =3DD fro > From: info@zoekeating.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: front page looper > Date: Mon=2C 27 Jul 2009 22:40:42 -0700 >=20 > i'm grateful to twitter of course. >=20 > some really good things have come out of it. for example=2C i'm working = =20 > with curt smith from tears for fears solely because we met on =20 > twitter.... >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Bing=99 brings you maps=2C menus=2C and reviews organized in one place. Try= it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=3Drestaurants&form=3DMLOGEN&publ=3DWLHMTAG&cre= a=3DTXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1= --_69bff66c-c0a1-42e7-b3f4-7cd1a5762a1c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...i.......love........tears for fears.......
one of my guiltiest pleasures.....

this is your brain on drugs.....
now add a childhood of tears for fears=2C genesis=2C the moody blues and th= e beatles and you get my brain..
congrats! whatcha workin on..... or is it top secret? =3Bo)
send my love =3DD

fro







>=3B From: info@zoekeating.com
>= =3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: front pa= ge looper
>=3B Date: Mon=2C 27 Jul 2009 22:40:42 -0700
>=3B
&= gt=3B i'm grateful to twitter of course.
>=3B
>=3B some really g= ood things have come out of it. for example=2C i'm working
>=3B with= curt smith from tears for fears solely because we met on
>=3B twitt= er....
>=3B

Bing=99 brings you maps=2C menus=2C and re= views organized in one place. Try it now. = --_69bff66c-c0a1-42e7-b3f4-7cd1a5762a1c_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 07:44:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CEA83BE86; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d2525dd4-2a46-4948-96aa-7136bf41ee71_" X-Originating-IP: [62.7.183.51] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: midi sequencer needed Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:44:29 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jul 2009 07:44:30.0105 (UTC) FILETIME=[3D73C890:01CA0F57] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:44:30 +0000 (UTC) --_d2525dd4-2a46-4948-96aa-7136bf41ee71_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Simeon=2C You can pick up a secondhand MC500 off ebay for peanuts. It will certainly = deal with all the commans you want and is built for live use. It may be too= big though.. G Date: Mon=2C 27 Jul 2009 21:43:41 +0100 Subject: Re: midi sequencer needed From: simeonharris40@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com don't drum machines only output midi notes? i've not heard of midi import= =2C but that wold be useful as i could write the sequences in Logic and the= n import them into the drum machine - is that how it would work? sim _________________________________________________________________ Share your memories online with anyone you want. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/= --_d2525dd4-2a46-4948-96aa-7136bf41ee71_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Simeon=2C
You can pick up a secondhand MC500 off ebay for peanuts. It= will certainly deal with all the commans you want and is built for live us= e. It may be too big though..
G

Date: Mon= =2C 27 Jul 2009 21:43:41 +0100
Subject: Re: midi sequencer needed
Fro= m: simeonharris40@googlemail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=

don't drum machines only output midi notes? i've not heard of midi = import=2C but that wold be useful as i could write the sequences in Logic a= nd then import them into the drum machine - is that how it would work?

sim






Share your memories online with a= nyone you want. Learn more. = --_d2525dd4-2a46-4948-96aa-7136bf41ee71_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 07:56:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24F8F3BE84; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:56:06 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <42307B8F-3277-4DAA-808B-70D1C1592F1A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090728075606.294600@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> <20090724074441.59030@gmx.net> <42307B8F-3277-4DAA-808B-70D1C1592F1A@gmail.com> Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+YBdI3bRqYDZ3n/8UczvSei3kc/q/Htu0NarZzyU 0LLr0pd+rQlzfz7e0zo1PD3GwqiCQiijJk7w== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: LphdflYBf2IsAf5yl21o4UR4dWxlc1Y8 X-FuHaFi: 0.72 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Hi Matthias > > - Drum Replacer > > That would be really cool for me to enter drum patterns via > > beatboxing and having them transformed into real sampled beats. > hm... sounds created with your mouth are much more real than samples, > especially because the sample is always the same (or the same few) Yes, they are more realistic. But for Bass drum/snare, I might like to replace (or add) it with a sample that has more punch Also, it is an alternative to entering midi rhythm tracks via keyboard. best regards Buzap -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 08:42:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D5CB3BE84; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:42:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 458 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:42:37 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=i2AbJbrZkEKVp90SlR1nsV90PCJmbIXGZIVZ9eIMOmY=; b=oZCRu2kSImoGl9HtxA9/TpCu9oycOYwqW96wPypPWku288kllcCET0mBcKeHvTrEu1 953vlNBmQcvb5ufldp+HwlZ0sCM7o9kBKilQMnR086/IDkXgj7evlt1boC/Ir2lPInki RAjbwpniMbZrQPeLAkgaZqtnFCBl30FGgm/HQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=J2r08q4M0D/+wQXxnGd2uYQm5Nw6fTcsEKu0pD3cLcyoIMYbZZ2kEtfPs7clB20WCO 3cOX4pMIRQMgkUikdDY2D2kGODsaEyXbiFxDbEm/eCsmxtYLqMTI3/4SaWZLeNmvtI9r papAWtMy8M15gt4hh37rGrYyfDP8qWROuF+WM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <957D7C22-674C-43F5-B83A-AC82951B524E@ubergadget.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:34:59 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110907280134t25050441q89861c612bc97777@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FRO's rig - The Wandering Madman From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636af024b2a4280046fbff295 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:42:38 +0000 (UTC) --001636af024b2a4280046fbff295 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit umm, if there are no loopers in the rig, what relevance does it have to this list? At least an OT in the title would have been nice! o.O -michael >1. Full gear list: I can recognize some of the stuff (like Alesis QS8, > >what looks like a Behringer FCB1010 with chainsawed-off expression > >pedals, FRM RNP (?), Fireface800, two Fantom Rack units, MOTU MTP A/V, > >and a Line6 POD X3 Pro), but apart from that... > >2. Wiring chart, please! Including audio and MIDI (and video, and > >computers - are there any?) > >3. I'd also like a video where you set that up in 15 minutes, > >please...and finally, > >4. where's them damn loopers? > > 1. you got most of it.... add an alesis sr-18 for click, mixer is allan & heath, FMR RNC compressor, alesis i/o for drum triggers > and yeap...FBC1010 taken to a jigsaw.....plus a few magic black boxes.... > 2.ild rather massage my face with concrete- ;o) - allthough if i ever take the time to make one, ill be happy to send it to ya > 3.ill try to include this when i post videos in a month or 2 - p.s. 2 CPU's...1 mac for video...1 pc for audio > 4.they're in my head ;o) > > --001636af024b2a4280046fbff295 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable umm, if there are no loopers in the rig, what relevance does it have to thi= s list? At least an OT in the title would have been nice! o.O

-micha= el

>1. Full gear list: I can recognize some of the stuff (like Al=
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>what looks like a Behringer FCB1010 with chainsawed-off ex=
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>pedals, FRM RNP (?), Fireface800, two Fantom Rack units, MO=
TU MTP A/V,

>and a Line6 POD X3 Pro), but apart from that...
>2. Wiring chart,=
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>3. I'd also like a video where you set that up in 15 m=
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>please...and finally,
>4. where's them damn loopers?

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; heath, FMR RNC compressor, alesis i/o for drum triggers
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the time to make one, ill be happy to send it to ya
3.ill try to include=
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4.they're in my head ;o)
--001636af024b2a4280046fbff295-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 08:49:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E3D53BE7F; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:49:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_be78386b-11ac-4e3e-b821-e43f2801c9dc_" X-Originating-IP: [99.195.148.10] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: FRO's rig - The Wandering Madman Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:49:26 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <339c30110907280134t25050441q89861c612bc97777@mail.gmail.com> References: <957D7C22-674C-43F5-B83A-AC82951B524E@ubergadget.com> <339c30110907280134t25050441q89861c612bc97777@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jul 2009 08:49:27.0441 (UTC) FILETIME=[50721010:01CA0F60] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:49:28 +0000 (UTC) --_be78386b-11ac-4e3e-b821-e43f2801c9dc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable twas a joke- mobius is my only weapon-=20 ive showered it with love many times on this list- absolutely phenomenal - Date: Tue=2C 28 Jul 2009 17:34:59 +0900 Subject: Re: FRO's rig - The Wandering Madman From: looplog@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com umm=2C if there are no loopers in the rig=2C what relevance does it have to= this list? At least an OT in the title would have been nice! o.O -michael >1. Full gear list: I can recognize some of the stuff (like Alesis QS8=2C >what looks like a Behringer FCB1010 with chainsawed-off expression >pedals=2C FRM RNP (?)=2C Fireface800=2C two Fantom Rack units=2C MOTU MTP = A/V=2C >and a Line6 POD X3 Pro)=2C but apart from that... >2. Wiring chart=2C please! Including audio and MIDI (and video=2C and >computers - are there any?) >3. I'd also like a video where you set that up in 15 minutes=2C >please...and finally=2C >4. where's them damn loopers? 1. you got most of it.... add an alesis sr-18 for click=2C mixer is allan &= heath=2C FMR RNC compressor=2C alesis i/o for drum triggers and yeap...FBC1010 taken to a jigsaw.....plus a few magic black boxes.... 2.ild rather massage my face with concrete- =3Bo) - allthough if i ever tak= e the time to make one=2C ill be happy to send it to ya 3.ill try to include this when i post videos in a month or 2 - p.s. 2 CPU'= s...1 mac for video...1 pc for audio 4.they're in my head =3Bo) _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 SkyDrive=99: Store=2C access=2C and share your photos. See = how. http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072= 009= --_be78386b-11ac-4e3e-b821-e43f2801c9dc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable twas a joke-

mobius is my only weapon-
ive showered it with love= many times on this list-
absolutely phenomenal -





Date: Tue=2C 28 Jul 2009 17:34:59 +0900
Sub= ject: Re: FRO's rig - The Wandering Madman
From: looplog@gmail.com
To= : Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

umm=2C if there are no loopers= in the rig=2C what relevance does it have to this list? At least an OT in = the title would have been nice! o.O

-michael

>=3B1. Full gear list: I can recognize some of the stuff (like =
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>=3Bwhat looks like a Behringer FCB1010 with chainsawed-=
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>=3Bpedals=2C FRM RNP (?)=2C Fireface800=2C two Fantom =
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>=3Band a Line6 POD X3 Pro)=2C but a=
part from that...
>=3B2. Wiring chart=2C please! Including audio and M=
IDI (and video=2C and
>=3Bcomputers - are there any?)
>=3B3. I'd =
also like a video where you set that up in 15 minutes=2C

>=3Bpleas=
e...and finally=2C
>=3B4. where's them damn loopers?

1. you got=
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Windows Live=99 SkyDrive=99: Store=2C access=2C and share = your photos. See how. = --_be78386b-11ac-4e3e-b821-e43f2801c9dc_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 09:25:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 005F53BE86; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:25:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5g/+qxsIWa7eo1YeUmIBxth0Z8gJKlIFtn44CAUS7v8=; b=wN3kTDyqRzwpF8FtUBMoLXXxT7eccNv7AD79sDM2X7sCi2KirWehKhQeHx30yFHKJ+ m0qlqYCNM+Rl1WQ2Sm0xSMWR3rFLnip6/VnOv6GZRvIgyovVhfdPuFh7vUXf/pYqDfST MnYfYAdexzwi0/fgEaa0kbmGKVeT4D+39kwPA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=E5LlHU8NNQRj12md+S8TE6bRHrKvtRA+GMoyg1NgEz8c5KAGl2ov7YAzlWA+jnj5oO B0cnpLlM9rUR33o+7JF/p54T8tffbIr4WavIYvopJOGeraATEMP4fTAQ+YfXfjM1zSC8 Mt44lTwbsLUxQVFgPfss5fvWtCLNgrVdzRXdc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <957D7C22-674C-43F5-B83A-AC82951B524E@ubergadget.com> <339c30110907280134t25050441q89861c612bc97777@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:18:38 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110907280218x2d5cdef8g8b7d4156589ff30d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FRO's rig - The Wandering Madman From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f9f336443da8046fc08e5e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:25:24 +0000 (UTC) --001485f9f336443da8046fc08e5e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit righton, humor sometimes bounces off my thick skull! I suspected those CPUs had to have something to do with looping. good to know... -michael On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:49 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > twas a joke- > > mobius is my only weapon- > ive showered it with love many times on this list- > absolutely phenomenal - > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:34:59 +0900 > Subject: Re: FRO's rig - The Wandering Madman > From: looplog@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > umm, if there are no loopers in the rig, what relevance does it have to > this list? At least an OT in the title would have been nice! o.O > > -michael > > --001485f9f336443da8046fc08e5e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable righton, humor sometimes bounces off my thick skull!

I suspected tho= se CPUs had to have something to do with looping. good to know...

-m= ichael


On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:49 P= M, FRO DIDDLY <parispro00@hotmail.com> wrote:
twas a joke-

mobius is my only weapon-
ive showered it with love= many times on this list-
absolutely phenomenal -





Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:34:59 +0900
Subject: Re: FRO's ri= g - The Wandering Madman
From: looplog@gmail.= com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


umm, if there are no loopers in the rig, what relevance does it hav= e to this list? At least an OT in the title would have been nice! o.O
-michael

--001485f9f336443da8046fc08e5e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 09:31:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24B7B3BE8E; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:31:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iZ0QTIII/bpexRFlWNQX8rXg3Yo/mB45qlzu1N3Zff8=; b=TDfI3T7SO4s+5If2KWwFzQjnw33h576zKR6VAq6OzuCfFuK8i8Ejg/3rn2l8etx0tP x2NzOqcXMykn8MchtgwKT84RI7a/CW34Yii/Q8P0tpRkaO0FoVbkjGcOGozhlsUvy2Rw zfDANXpO+/8r4JReTpbE9IXNo2XAHTr/uLaj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ntKzmbWIF+siL3ojZVf3FIJZjoy7eUZfFdwvBlJDrjW7uWjqUC3kjz+7MYDZoEb6Hh 6mMp33BvrX7ax3drndm/qTjiuQbaUTNB/4vcSNexgWbeSvHl6DCEatxXlAXNrIgZGOaP ItTTpkPfvOK+2+47HA3XRGpMu+tgbh2ghdWX0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090728075606.294600@gmx.net> References: <20090723161459.TLTCY.2282023.root@mp20> <20090724074441.59030@gmx.net> <42307B8F-3277-4DAA-808B-70D1C1592F1A@gmail.com> <20090728075606.294600@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:31:06 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907280231l7692eb59q71f86deca4c3aadf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new looper in Logic 9 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3b6PxB.A.3mC.aVsbKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:31:07 +0000 (UTC) Well, I just love Logic. Have used it since version 2.0. To me that application is just like hot wiring my brain to give sound to the music I think. Even more with this ninth version. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 10:35:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3BCE3BE7F; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2G0xW2THFc6DqMikBEJdAfdZAgZ5frNuDqUFX9IxmdA=; b=PbT0WHRLTbeHn9ZcLMTXFSAP+ypPfsuCFsqjxVuv+z1GWK+NtY/QCcJeGyGL8ytNIg x2kV/V8/iYVvTf+CGs2mohYV6AzNV7gutdHQaYHA1yR4Lxz0YtdSydcxzbtN9XlPvWR1 e1nQBypVNLNCpjrunCSMnOnvXtnf4zeJvqMAE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=OrZ/c2mB07D5UhEdoJCy4bWkfWlqdpa/oWlTRSmtV3n5b3BEqTJv74BU+9hU7i6k6L MBuYIEJqbCKkFFFqhiolzNGLZQcB4VWp09Gu/j5dZDrvvc2RhIWwWQiYA8DYVCKwHHBI iyh4va1FTTDEMC5RZVpX846JkkFIirHUpem98= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:35:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: midi sequencer needed From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364d2439e7464a046fc1a092 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:35:26 +0000 (UTC) --0016364d2439e7464a046fc1a092 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks gareth - had a look on the web and it's a bit of a beastie...tons of retro chic though! On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Gareth Whittock wrote: > Hi Simeon, > You can pick up a secondhand MC500 off ebay for peanuts. It will certainly > deal with all the commans you want and is built for live use. It may be too > big though.. > G > > > --0016364d2439e7464a046fc1a092 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks gareth - had a look on the web and it's a bit of a beastie...ton= s of retro chic though!

On Tue, Jul 28, 2= 009 at 8:44 AM, Gareth Whittock <buddhamachine@live.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Simeon,
You can pick up a secondhand MC500 off ebay for peanuts. It w= ill certainly deal with all the commans you want and is built for live use.= It may be too big though..
G



--0016364d2439e7464a046fc1a092-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 11:46:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB7EE3BE85; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:46:19 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <4A6E0EEC.3040107@dehnhard.com> Message-ID: <20090728114619.202570@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <603C4377-64F6-4538-B4AF-F6AA0F3750BC@laurelmurphy.com> <995b11efe76b6af909302c6130348c4d.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <4A6C11D2.4020107@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0907260847m131a9b61r772064942e36c453@mail.gmail.com> <4A6E0EEC.3040107@dehnhard.com> Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1//WTBIpiz/DV8Ckx6JZhjevEjA1CPjC99/Xib7g4 +GrbeYDif8TMYBifD1ASOh8T9SPeKoNhDR4g== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: bpQHJVN3MydhA/5OkWtlJYBjaGRhZlqg X-FuHaFi: 0.6899999999999999 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Hi Tilman > c eb e g ab b > a nice messiaen-like sound. This is hilarious! That's exactly the custom harmonica layout I play most of the time... Another scale I like - never seen it anywhere so far- is maj3rd/halftone scale: C E F A Bb D Eb G Ab C Db ... This is a quite interesting scale because it's progressing in the circle of fourths. It is not an octave based scale. Yet, you can play this scale up & down from various positions. Has anyone ever tried this / heard anyone using this ??? best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 11:52:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8820F3BE8A; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:52:04 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090728115204.202570@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <692984.74482.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: best listening websites in europe(What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19y4yQMk3xyN6CSbgGp8ffIgc4WZ9ndPKmxk2QrL8 Mw/TZI0b9DYuJhT49oY3k4mgyacZiidwflIg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: U95bfmoFRkkNFd1hiGVqbo1udWkvKFMB X-FuHaFi: 0.6899999999999999 Resent-Message-ID: <8PNVXC.A.lBH.oZubKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Hi Luis here are a few hints: For Top40 chart music: - Listen to BBC chart stream: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/singles.shtml BBC has also a lot of great (experimental, world, ...) radio stations worth checking out. - MTV (watch chart videos): http://www.mtv.de/charts Else, I usually listen to music on last.fm. Playlist.com could be also an alternative to Spotify. Then again, the best source is just simply MySpace and YouTube best regards Buzap -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 12:58:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D91A3BE8B; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VKNSNTZpnySw0ANmUK0XNBEL39Kr3ewPBPMDTGH7aSM=; b=LGma9xyRhEFsNU46B2cCafRNq2orgxC2CM+zjr16PjkLsKuR9YpMXMY9GCBpze9ODs qm8lCsbXsytLj9Vzg/SJhmbO8gAyPiFhXZc03i5FCMc10m25nXy3FBgV1iMiWJtGA40k Jj2NakkrVgJzIujP6ecd7vSDF4moWMZhqB+Zw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gBsq549NVHLuv6jqbY+tWBWG+0uEI4TRMyIBoMQn6vhCZ2wXDenX5ptkLd8AaokPgK 3UtjkRWg5ozxb4aCFd3zrldBE1CrXeXdyLfCgk+iyHfZ74r1pw2C3DaiN8mRgH9wT/Fl noU+GpIg1c44Xpk0DdbG6XvOq1vyIfnhgbDT8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090728114619.202570@gmx.net> References: <603C4377-64F6-4538-B4AF-F6AA0F3750BC@laurelmurphy.com> <995b11efe76b6af909302c6130348c4d.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <4A6C11D2.4020107@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0907260847m131a9b61r772064942e36c453@mail.gmail.com> <4A6E0EEC.3040107@dehnhard.com> <20090728114619.202570@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:58:20 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907280558u6054abf4t4d2970b366bd0a15@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:58:20 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Another scale I like - never seen it anywhere so far- is maj3rd/halftone scale: > C E F A Bb D Eb G Ab C Db ... > > This is a quite interesting scale because it's progressing in the circle of fourths. It is not an octave based scale. Yet, you can play this scale up & down from various positions. > > Has anyone ever tried this / heard anyone using this ??? I usually don't like playing that one over a too long span - like more than an octave - but have been using parts of it and like the half-steps. Of course the use of it depends on harmonization and what other musical parts are playing for you to adapt to. As for solo melody playing with no harmonizing accompany it sounds cool because it plays jokes with the experienced tonal center. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 13:44:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94B483BE86; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248788681; bh=GXtEyIWJE8NMg5zvmhYHLoNr5JRTz1vEO5jTvZEtgSg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=awI5uXfcmEbgzLOZfX7ZO/ZXwjrHdtbcxMrZNP9pHGhuIUHjB/JB2IpTlex2HlymgOaT8yHrxBp7tEZXZKksk6pEcaOOfQZgrJSB2d0Ddg1FAfBrBWLejic/svPV1zJY43cTcAXFi+WXWvJB3Wz6QQDZe9SAv2vkngXfEzVncg4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OSesL1V3sZczuWtdU9/eqNdVhJWG0ZVrPVscuAb3pCqpWAWDnv8v8MMmrJAMmrLVbaR/fudPyFBM/+5dP46eXPFRJnspKODc6icQsv7iC8SyCeTJZDPgMKfhwnVpKBtB+djQqew7xiEixkmMWFF5IRzyc6GoXAIUlqZLCsrhlA8=; Message-ID: <233145.16192.qm@web24301.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:44:40 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: RE: front page looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:44:42 +0000 (UTC) wow high caliber songwriters congrats!=0ALuis=0A =0A=0A> > From: info@zoeke= ating.com=0A> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> > Subject: Re: = front page looper=0A> > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:40:42 -0700=0A> > =0A> > = i'm grateful to twitter of course.=0A> > =0A> > some really good things hav= e come out of it. for=0A> example, i'm working =0A> > with curt smith from= tears for fears solely because we=0A> met on =0A> > twitter....=0A=0A=0A= =0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 13:49:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26C4B3BE84; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248788938; bh=LmkyULn8HfUeYeKBV5cAXRz+mtet8OOczQjMz8GGqts=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pBXyQkR6FbMznznt6nTs5C9MwtpyPpD6PWUQdAP6DxSZlP9Eiq6JjhiWQeQDysupBWy16qeiSoeN+QxS5WZj5Ue3e2PAFYsbsF9xXbIU8XOV8V2znZtDuOyERRiOYBjQ83mBJez4jAnYM5XG7tSjXnZjinirO8NcxDAa3oPIHfw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=AVwAtY/KFUI5xn1PjZ5fV1QAPX62jGcD8YF1EY0QPWqF3wEZQCTAFwmw7r1u+YacARuHbUSjbeWHPvRrT6y2gkzc5AYjZkg2CPUE10rn4fKaEiJu+ni3pMnndzx7eh6vvyldKNfIRIVPQdP8dMriFKBzSh3n5kSIz0YK2XgGxwY=; Message-ID: <470280.67516.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:48:58 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequencer game) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:49:01 +0000 (UTC) interesting point!=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- mark fran= combe schrieb am Di, 28.7.2009:=0A=0A> Von: mark f= rancombe =0A> Betreff: Re: toys for non-musicians (= was: online real time looping sequencer game)=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loop= ers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Dienstag, 28. Juli 2009, 0:21=0A> Ha ha ha.. Hav= e to say that on the=0A> whole i agree with you Mattias.. except for one sm= all=0A> thing... I LOVE the sound of sterile!! And so does my wife!=0A> Im = not as much into it as her, but she actually hates music=0A> that you and I= would say has soul... She hates beats that=0A> have ANY frills or swing or= syncopation, (or rolls) . And=0A> she hate ANY kind of solo-ing...=A0 guit= ar OR keyboard... She=0A> can just about tolerate Kraftwerk, saying things = like=0A> "They are a bit too melodic". She listens of 80=B4s=0A> german syn= thpop or techno only (oh and Marc Almond,=A0 I=0A> think thats her one and = only quirk into anything=0A> expressive)=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Much as I love = the sound of simple instruments, lilke a=0A> rain stick or a drum... she wo= uld run screaming for the hils=0A> wailing "UGH ... HELP... ETHNIC!!!" =0A>= =0A> My point is an obvious one, dont forget that all people are=0A> diffe= rent, you and I love feel, and expression in music...=0A> Hilde, my beloved= , would prefer that there was no human role=0A> whatso ever in the making o= f music... (Im very interested to=0A> hear that Mark S sits next to 5 robot= s... is it your band=0A> Mark?)=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Im really interested by = what you say in your first=0A> sentance, the wording of it... =0A> =0A> you= didnt say...=0A> =0A> I dont think that the music which such tools do is a= ny=0A> good... =0A> =0A> but.. =0A> =0A> I dont think that the music which = such tools do us much=0A> good.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Are you saying that musi= c made with these tools is actuall=0A> bad for US... us meaning the human r= ace? This is=0A> interesting. I think I may agree with you, but I am less= =0A> concerned about how the music was created but more concerned=0A> that = people are listening to music in this way (plugged-in=0A> on white cables -= shut off from the world) as far as Im=0A> concerned iPod users are listeni= ng wrong, and that THIS is=0A> bad for humanity...=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Serio= us Question: Do teenagers nowadays, sit in their=0A> bedrooms with friends = playing records...?=0A> http://tinyurl.com/ledz8r=0A> =0A> =0A> Mark=0A> = =0A> =0A> =A0=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Sorry, I dont think th= at the music which such tools do us=0A> much good.=0A> =0A> Even if the con= troller is smart and expressive (which most=0A> are not), the problem is th= e sterile electronic sound.=0A> =0A> for me its similar to the idea of the = food pills: even if=0A> they bring the flavor of the best cooks of the worl= d...=0A> always exactly equally perfect... they never vary!=0A> =0A> =0A> = =0A> sure, most people do not have the time to really learn to=0A> play an = instrument, but they are better off playing a pan=0A> with some water in it= , or a rain stick...=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> and thats the reason why I still sp= end most of my day=0A> trying to spread the livelooping idea:=0A> =0A> its = every time new!=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Matthias=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> On 24 Jul 20= 09, at 21:59, Mark Sottilaro wrote:=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Here's one that= won't crash your computer=0A> Matthias... ;)=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> http://www= .youtube.com/watch?v=3D_SGwDhKTrwU=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 = at 2:58 PM, Matthias Grob=0A> wrote:=0A> =0A> =0A> yes= , its beautiful but it did some noisy breaks and finally=0A> killed my whol= e=0A> =0A> OSX which hardly ever happened before!=0A> =0A> On 24 Jul 2009, = at 10:41, Massimo Liverani wrote:=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Yess!!! and have you a= lso aldready tested this other?:=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> http://www.hobnox.com/i= ndex.1056.en.html=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> it's real amazing!=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> = =0A> =0A> Rick Walker ha scritto:=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Wow, =A0 this is fun!!= !!!=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#9r8XKj/lab.andre-miche= lle.com/tonematrix/=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> = =0A> --=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A= > =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 13:52:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CC363BE8D; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:52:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=O6nqr786fuiglWJC/kAFkqHU45umCjIizx90H0u4BUg=; b=uVznSEeXtjbjZmA21ssgldgpEIvDlSSvMi65nYrDqAg5MTjfpctDxfhB9tSZ3u72yA dnxpeJfoPvnK4xBtOuBrxFrL8IJkCaV1R+7CGrd/f/cHouWv26Q4Tjk0W8aKGt7rqJoa AXrvkFfksuaH0jNW2SYhOJ041aP8z0VfyDaYs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KlixdZHxRFniKuF5CxtrYhAkpvrRmkI9U1s6Ra8+tv7VZXwmD7haR/Ej1WY+qHp8hX oRXOnQwTGiTn/LKPoKSswFa5eAOF9DxcwIeHcnQUSsMZVPCWtk1Yt3xSq0JYdl/pbpVH svgf/1m1KUGUcd610BdxjI26eg9ovtVP5d6kc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <44e368750907272031q109f7da1vbb7d2c05fe16b26@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:52:52 -0400 Message-ID: <44e368750907280652l3ce28d63x516dfc6fc958eef4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: receptor looper From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750db0e0de0bb046fc46330 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:52:53 +0000 (UTC) --00151750db0e0de0bb046fc46330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit no receptor owners here? hmm... - jim --00151750db0e0de0bb046fc46330 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--00151750db0e0de0bb046fc46330-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 14:00:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71FC33BE88; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yIL0DKYuzb2DAbzSNRruDqMVsy8koSLwDWAqUy2L+88=; b=a2i9dcwU7OLLa9DHL0PG3VMSs71uzGqGwn1/48peRMrKFBvQC25XElpDCQxlLILIbU BK5jrIsSBQIgldIHLE2zVJvt81LPviIErJmlSVju8ON7A/t5fFR1CPniBhkYXayeabPm qTvKaexICzp2mCt4Zl5LSjuqupB1KZ8C69rhw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BC3ddig8u4NTPX08qPMKBkXF1fcidcRZ6Lx85hvQv/s4Uf2n7NbZ5SX+6ckladmulP MJ/xFWr3zRdKDY/OhhqPvkugGAIY7gdT8CNrnS8Mq+MbEEOLvD/EgAJL2BN+L7OHFcxo MQkF5m7FRe/2m1Kr7jgcQvxydSv9pGR+tc8eo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <44e368750907280652l3ce28d63x516dfc6fc958eef4@mail.gmail.com> References: <44e368750907272031q109f7da1vbb7d2c05fe16b26@mail.gmail.com> <44e368750907280652l3ce28d63x516dfc6fc958eef4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:00:27 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: receptor looper From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:00:29 +0000 (UTC) i remember jeff saying that those plugins making calls to the operating system (like mobius) will not run into that box ... .02 2009/7/28, james fowler : > no receptor owners here? > > hmm... > > - jim > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 14:13:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BECD3BE86; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:13:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 234034830/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.198.81/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.198.81 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ak4BAOyjbkpPTsZR/2dsb2JhbAAI1CuEDAWKAA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,283,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="234034830" Message-ID: <4A6F0B14.5040709@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:28:36 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT:Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody References: <603C4377-64F6-4538-B4AF-F6AA0F3750BC@laurelmurphy.com> <995b11efe76b6af909302c6130348c4d.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <4A6C11D2.4020107@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0907260847m131a9b61r772064942e36c453@mail.gmail.com> <4A6E0EEC.3040107@dehnhard.com> <20090728114619.202570@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20090728114619.202570@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:13:18 +0000 (UTC) when I lived with a piano, I used to hold down the pedal, then start on the lowest note and play a huge arpeggio going up to the top note by alternating major and minor 3rds. Then I listened to the spiralling sustain for entertainment. andy Buzap Buzap wrote: > > Another scale I like - never seen it anywhere so far- is maj3rd/halftone scale: > C E F A Bb D Eb G Ab C Db ... > > This is a quite interesting scale because it's progressing in the circle of fourths. It is not an octave based scale. Yet, you can play this scale up & down from various positions. > > Has anyone ever tried this / heard anyone using this ??? > > best regards > Buzap From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 14:34:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAFC93BE87; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:34:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=USd1iLBBXQBO5vSGV9XH3U2O8lenaYvdzC10TRep4BU=; b=X+9KrJImSida6fKAlDEOdlfT3l5j12NhvIBYXorDcuZAiVVsm6kF9TJnOO8UAIHqo+ CD6+IBVMG+d9Rv2B1vJLHFuAnzaOLRFnUM8jYNgK4VIgENdiqnGgbZxNiDU8xxhwbiFP ++NH6rbdH+amtQyBSoFLX1sSEbd5mh2/QReTo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HV+CNWWUHmPUEQQm6i4Qgf663QG08UauXtNxRIW7WS+bkVOFRWuzsMIUM2+WgsDKin WBvFjRKRUwygTxYBjDR7/s3YuIbkkFoUJB1AZ5Y2cG+wIBDAYlvidoRCfDmuFSFuJJ6o nNMXvB8DjMhhgCflIKOM6SeVUoOF6deXI+UV8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907280021r1fb0b083ic1ed7e0db54ca10d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A69AD9E.6030401@cruzio.com> <4A69B9EF.7050009@het.it> <9AE7C6BA-3964-4766-9BB8-1EA2EBE8AE6E@gmail.com> <8B2C15AB-B4CC-48C8-A6B6-795A8E0AEA58@gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907280021r1fb0b083ic1ed7e0db54ca10d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:34:01 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequencer game) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0H_OY.A.3wF.axwbKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:34:02 +0000 (UTC) I'm not sure how you can call music "good" or "bad" for us. If you like it and it touches something in you and expresses something you feel or helps you express something you feel, than it's good. Whether or not you like it is a totally different story. I'm sure some kid with an 808 would listen to one of my rambling slowly morphing ambient bits and feel that music with no obvious direction is pointless. My take is, if you make music and it makes you happy than the tools you use are of no importance. Mark P.S. (my robots are (sadly) all unfunctioning toys (though the full size Lost In Space cardboard cut out is pretty impressive) that surround me and my computer. I work for a game company, so there's a lot of that. I do have a Roomba at home though, but since we moved to a 4 story condo it doesn't get much use. Maybe they'll make a Roomba that does stairs one day... BY YOUR COMMAND! On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:21 AM, mark francombe wr= ote: > Ha ha ha.. Have to say that on the whole i agree with you Mattias.. excep= t > for one small thing... I LOVE the sound of sterile!! And so does my wife!= Im > not as much into it as her, but she actually hates music that you and I > would say has soul... She hates beats that have ANY frills or swing or > syncopation, (or rolls) . And she hate ANY kind of solo-ing...=A0 guitar = OR > keyboard... She can just about tolerate Kraftwerk, saying things like "Th= ey > are a bit too melodic". She listens of 80=B4s german synthpop or techno o= nly > (oh and Marc Almond,=A0 I think thats her one and only quirk into anythin= g > expressive) > > Much as I love the sound of simple instruments, lilke a rain stick or a > drum... she would run screaming for the hils wailing "UGH ... HELP... > ETHNIC!!!" > > My point is an obvious one, dont forget that all people are different, yo= u > and I love feel, and expression in music... Hilde, my beloved, would pref= er > that there was no human role whatso ever in the making of music... (Im ve= ry > interested to hear that Mark S sits next to 5 robots... is it your band > Mark?) > > Im really interested by what you say in your first sentance, the wording = of > it... > > you didnt say... > > I dont think that the music which such tools do is any good... > > but.. > > I dont think that the music which such tools do us much good. > > Are you saying that music made with these tools is actuall bad for US... = us > meaning the human race? This is interesting. I think I may agree with you= , > but I am less concerned about how the music was created but more concerne= d > that people are listening to music in this way (plugged-in on white cable= s - > shut off from the world) as far as Im concerned iPod users are listening > wrong, and that THIS is bad for humanity... > > Serious Question: Do teenagers nowadays, sit in their bedrooms with frien= ds > playing records...? > http://tinyurl.com/ledz8r > > > Mark > > > > >> >> >> Sorry, I dont think that the music which such tools do us much good. >> Even if the controller is smart and expressive (which most are not), the >> problem is the sterile electronic sound. >> for me its similar to the idea of the food pills: even if they bring the >> flavor of the best cooks of the world... always exactly equally perfect.= .. >> they never vary! >> >> sure, most people do not have the time to really learn to play an >> instrument, but they are better off playing a pan with some water in it,= or >> a rain stick... >> >> and thats the reason why I still spend most of my day trying to spread t= he >> livelooping idea: >> its every time new! >> >> Matthias >> >> On 24 Jul 2009, at 21:59, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> >>> Here's one that won't crash your computer Matthias... ;) >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_SGwDhKTrwU >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Matthias Grob >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> yes, its beautiful but it did some noisy breaks and finally killed my >>>> whole >>>> OSX which hardly ever happened before! >>>> On 24 Jul 2009, at 10:41, Massimo Liverani wrote: >>>> >>>> Yess!!! and have you also aldready tested this other?: >>>> >>>> http://www.hobnox.com/index.1056.en.html >>>> >>>> it's real amazing! >>>> >>>> >>>> Rick Walker ha scritto: >>>> >>>> Wow, =A0 this is fun!!!!! >>>> >>>> http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#9r8XKj/lab.andre-michelle.com/tonematrix= / >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 14:54:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B8C63BE8C; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:54:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_978cf0d9-483b-4b53-9479-70b2c4b1b13e_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.15.109] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequencer game) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:54:18 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <470280.67516.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <470280.67516.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jul 2009 14:54:19.0004 (UTC) FILETIME=[48D57BC0:01CA0F93] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:54:20 +0000 (UTC) --_978cf0d9-483b-4b53-9479-70b2c4b1b13e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I am less > > concerned about how the music was created but more concerned > > that people are listening to music in this way (plugged-in > > on white cables - shut off from the world) as far as Im > > concerned iPod users are listening wrong=2C and that THIS is > > bad for humanity... > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Serious Question: Do teenagers nowadays=2C sit in their > > bedrooms with friends playing records...? > > http://tinyurl.com/ledz8r =20 OOooohhh...ouch!!! =20 as a token "Young Person" myself=2CI see this very differantly!! =20 My generation has grown up facing constant fluidly changing points of refer= ance when it comes to "media"..this is the world we know and accept =2C for= mats change specs move on etc etc. =20 I personally have also grown up always seeming to be flying in the face of = an older generation of people who have become preoccupied and precious over= these "media" ...Film=2C Records=2C Paper=2C OS's ....they all have their = uses=2C they all have unique properties...BUT THEY ARE ALL JUST MEDIA. =20 film is no more organic then CCD chips...its chemicals and man made materia= ls just with differing properties=2C Records have Grooves while CDs have pi= ts read by lazer and BOTH work. =20 at the end of the day=2C the way I have grown up has allowed me to evaluate= my individual needs (not just primary like music=3D need for best sound qu= ality=2C but on a free flowing scale that takes in portability=2C battery l= ife=2C size etc) in a way which selects any one of a multitude of forms rat= her then bemoaning the loss of another format that has seen its use decline= (which in itself may be just a blip=2C think of transistor amps...now we a= re all back to valves!!!) =20 anyhoo=2C I rant and rave on but the ultimate point is...I feel I embrace a= multitude of formats=2C but I do so by applying WHO I AM to each one of th= em=2C I am indeed a social creature so in the instance of "I-pods" I know o= f many people such as myself who play "I-pod roulette" which is when each o= f you siit =2Cusually with mini speakers connected to your device and take = it in turns to go around the circle and play a song each..normally themes e= merge as one song reminds someone of another. =20 to me this is a social activity ideally suited to the medium of choice..i c= ould do it with my records cds or minidisks=2C but the properties of having= lots of audio in one tiny easy ot navigate box lets this game move quickly= and smoothly. =20 just my god knows how many cents =20 Phill=20 _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live=2C you can organise=2C edit=2C and share your photos. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/= --_978cf0d9-483b-4b53-9479-70b2c4b1b13e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=3B >=3B =3BI am less
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With Windows Live=2C you can organise=2C edit= =2C and share your photos. = --_978cf0d9-483b-4b53-9479-70b2c4b1b13e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 15:04:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE1603BE8A; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:04:44 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907280558u6054abf4t4d2970b366bd0a15@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090728150444.316520@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <603C4377-64F6-4538-B4AF-F6AA0F3750BC@laurelmurphy.com> <995b11efe76b6af909302c6130348c4d.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <5078bce86ef73de74acb9847e0a717fc.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> <4A6C11D2.4020107@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0907260847m131a9b61r772064942e36c453@mail.gmail.com> <4A6E0EEC.3040107@dehnhard.com> <20090728114619.202570@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0907280558u6054abf4t4d2970b366bd0a15@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: More Tonal Theory: Arppegiators/Accent/Melody To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19DFY8428lDZbRsbvW+laMo+We36hwysUSYZMhJZG Xne5KiPRuhG5npkc6nrcuLUQOnJf1Wq9u13Q== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: vSFJYo3cLi50CYE/kWppW3hrZml1ZFjv X-FuHaFi: 0.74 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per > > Has anyone ever tried this / heard anyone using this ??? > > C E F A Bb D Eb G Ab C Db ... > I usually don't like playing that one over a too long span - like more > than an octave - but have been using parts of it Yeah, me neither. I usually use parts of it, moving up and down in 4/1-Halftone-Step combination, depending on the context. Is there a name to it or any theory/recordings? best regards Buzap -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 15:05:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 463EA3BE86; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:05:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1248793556; bh=8El13IpvxSsbjmqsg/zIQ3I89JJW6fXpzq2C9wDOajs=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=ZigOGaATMj4KexKNQqzUMBn8Z8sM+LW8aSprg73a+ChPjvKVauPtESRiBsR6Ryp1q ZRiMQIXdxfcBmooP+gGayj2VUnf9LM03ze+OhJRz5fwUu0DgrS6/UrNcbHH2NeKzUU fkIW0bQbl9tKxBVB+m+HOMY8yHrs0pQH5+pxYhWg= Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:05:56 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: receptor looper MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 212.108.17.66 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:05:58 +0000 (UTC) > no receptor owners here? > hmm... Hi Jim, Most software loopers use Mac or Windows but I don't know anyone using a = Receptor. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 15:33:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 482D53BE86; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <44e368750907272031q109f7da1vbb7d2c05fe16b26@mail.gmail.com> <44e368750907280652l3ce28d63x516dfc6fc958eef4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <281E0DA9-9FD4-4F28-AD7A-0E915DF3001D@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Larson Subject: Re: receptor looper Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:33:11 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc179.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Right. The Receptor is a nice box, but their claims about VST support are hyped up a bit. Simpler plugins often work but the more complex ones have to be ported to run under the Receptor OS (which I believe is Linux, maybe with Wine for Windows plugins, not sure what they do about OSX plugins). The vast ocean of Synthedit plugins seem to work so you might try Elottronix XL. Also check out Loopy Llama. Os, have you tried to run Augustus VST on a Receptor? Jeff On Jul 28, 2009, at 9:00 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > i remember jeff saying that those plugins making calls to the > operating system (like mobius) will not run into that box ... > > .02 > > 2009/7/28, james fowler : >> no receptor owners here? >> >> hmm... >> >> - jim >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 16:17:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F22FC3BE8A; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a3809c19-47a9-4dd0-81ae-fbaed72f1d94_" X-Originating-IP: [62.7.183.51] From: Gareth Whittock To: Subject: RE: receptor looper Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:17:41 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <281E0DA9-9FD4-4F28-AD7A-0E915DF3001D@zonemobius.com> References: <44e368750907272031q109f7da1vbb7d2c05fe16b26@mail.gmail.com> <44e368750907280652l3ce28d63x516dfc6fc958eef4@mail.gmail.com> <281E0DA9-9FD4-4F28-AD7A-0E915DF3001D@zonemobius.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jul 2009 16:17:42.0976 (UTC) FILETIME=[EF6F0400:01CA0F9E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:17:42 +0000 (UTC) --_a3809c19-47a9-4dd0-81ae-fbaed72f1d94_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or Angstroloper? - I've turned on to that in the last couple of weeks. Give= it a shot=2C (donationware) g > From: jeff@zonemobius.com > Subject: Re: receptor looper > Date: Tue=2C 28 Jul 2009 10:33:11 -0500 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 >=20 > Right. The Receptor is a nice box=2C but their claims about VST > support are hyped up a bit. Simpler plugins often > work but the more complex ones have to be ported to > run under the Receptor OS (which I believe is Linux=2C > maybe with Wine for Windows plugins=2C not sure what > they do about OSX plugins). >=20 > The vast ocean of Synthedit plugins seem to work so > you might try Elottronix XL. Also check out Loopy Llama. >=20 > Os=2C have you tried to run Augustus VST on a Receptor? >=20 > Jeff >=20 >=20 > On Jul 28=2C 2009=2C at 9:00 AM=2C Raul Bonell wrote: >=20 > > i remember jeff saying that those plugins making calls to the > > operating system (like mobius) will not run into that box ... > > > > .02 > > > > 2009/7/28=2C james fowler : > >> no receptor owners here? > >> > >> hmm... > >> > >> - jim > >> > > > > > > --=20 > > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live=2C you can organise=2C edit=2C and share your photos. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/= --_a3809c19-47a9-4dd0-81ae-fbaed72f1d94_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or Angstroloper? - I've turned on to that in the last couple of weeks. Give= it a shot=2C (donationware)

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>=3B From: jeff@zonemobius.c= om
>=3B Subject: Re: receptor looper
>=3B Date: Tue=2C 28 Jul 200= 9 10:33:11 -0500
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>= =3B
>=3B
>=3B Right. The Receptor is a nice box=2C but their c= laims about VST
>=3B support are hyped up a bit. Simpler plugins of= ten
>=3B work but the more complex ones have to be ported to
>=3B= run under the Receptor OS (which I believe is Linux=2C
>=3B maybe wit= h Wine for Windows plugins=2C not sure what
>=3B they do about OSX plu= gins).
>=3B
>=3B The vast ocean of Synthedit plugins seem to wor= k so
>=3B you might try Elottronix XL. Also check out Loopy Llama.>=3B
>=3B Os=2C have you tried to run Augustus VST on a Receptor?<= br>>=3B
>=3B Jeff
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B On Jul 28=2C 2009= =2C at 9:00 AM=2C Raul Bonell wrote:
>=3B
>=3B >=3B i remember= jeff saying that those plugins making calls to the
>=3B >=3B operat= ing system (like mobius) will not run into that box ...
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B .02
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B 2009/7/28=2C james fow= ler <=3Btwostroke@gmail.com>=3B:
>=3B >=3B>=3B no receptor own= ers here?
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B hmm...
>=3B &g= t=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B - jim
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B &g= t=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B --
>=3B >=3B Raul Bonell at = Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
>=3B >=3B Chain Tape Collect= ive: http://www.ct-collective.com
>=3B >=3B
>=3B

With Windows Live=2C you can organise=2C edit=2C and share your photos= . = --_a3809c19-47a9-4dd0-81ae-fbaed72f1d94_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 17:05:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BFE13BEE0; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:05:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=FbrCucX0L8ILwPvzCj2te5K6JvHr/c3QUg1t0gzmMAQ=; b=RgmKYWk0O7TkojRpa5ic8xdqsmkjcRFP1yFtO35k/f+ORWNraMIIYTqfVq8CJztGdC RHxYcPAkq/ofw2g4HZYPiJkpgCb8gF/nCpGq0UCSSRLcciYgqyPA5Jo5QIRcoaAHQB7v vB5ofR9j+Pi4GY8DpHt49tDfvxv4SOgsiDdJM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=fOyz1Gh02ebnwrO7imiXUCF6NZQZCrhok36ApwjaYhz9BpZnhZBhxbTTxGLFSI7NbU b/PROhiae+iG9Otboa7VM9vIQymcooRYOzYFWAJw6GFrBTo/A5MEIVdljqmuzXCvVqUO CKTgxSSXhavjEncgNNqq0x1++BMgmtEOks0jo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <470280.67516.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:05:23 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 53228a9ae6dc0b13 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907281005o68ae11a6l46c22c59a462cf85@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequencer game) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be84cafe1b7046fc71405 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:05:49 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be84cafe1b7046fc71405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yikes!! Did i come across as a format junkie.. BY NO MEANS!! I am facinated by your idea of a iPod party.. does that happen??? Great!! Didnt know that.... Sorry, but Film IS better than digital, and Tape IS better than digital... but I agree.. close enough and a hell of a lot more convenient... no I was just thinking about the way people hear... I was fascinated by IN EAR phones for a while, (then in ear MICRO-phones, but thats another thread... ) hoping that the music would "get in my head".. but all i found was that the music cut out the 'verbs of the listening environment and gave me headaches... after years of pumping horrifically loud sounds thru my eardrums from headphones, ...no.. my hearing is fine... still hearing 16k no probs.. no.. i just cant listen on headphones... the world closes in and I feel claustrophobic and cut off, I start to sweat and in the end tear them buds out like a crazy man... cant do it... OH... and one more thing... if I was allowed to post pics here i would post a photo of my bus to work in the morning... was a dismal site. We are but drones staring forward and avoiding the gazes... cripes... m On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:54 PM, phillip wilson wrote: > > > I am less > > > concerned about how the music was created but more concerned > > > that people are listening to music in this way (plugged-in > > > on white cables - shut off from the world) as far as Im > > > concerned iPod users are listening wrong, and that THIS is > > > bad for humanity... > > > > > > > > > > > > Serious Question: Do teenagers nowadays, sit in their > > > bedrooms with friends playing records...? > > > http://tinyurl.com/ledz8r > > > OOooohhh...ouch!!! > > as a token "Young Person" myself,I see this very differantly!! > > My generation has grown up facing constant fluidly changing points of > referance when it comes to "media"..this is the world we know and accept , > formats change specs move on etc etc. > > I personally have also grown up always seeming to be flying in the face of > an older generation of people who have become preoccupied and precious over > these "media" ...Film, Records, Paper, OS's ....they all have their uses, > they all have unique properties...BUT THEY ARE ALL JUST MEDIA. > > film is no more organic then CCD chips...its chemicals and man made > materials just with differing properties, Records have Grooves while CDs > have pits read by lazer and BOTH work. > > at the end of the day, the way I have grown up has allowed me to evaluate > my individual needs (not just primary like music= need for best sound > quality, but on a free flowing scale that takes in portability, battery > life, size etc) in a way which selects any one of a multitude of forms > rather then bemoaning the loss of another format that has seen its use > decline (which in itself may be just a blip, think of transistor amps...now > we are all back to valves!!!) > > anyhoo, I rant and rave on but the ultimate point is...I feel I embrace a > multitude of formats, but I do so by applying WHO I AM to each one of them, > I am indeed a social creature so in the instance of "I-pods" I know of many > people such as myself who play "I-pod roulette" which is when each of you > siit ,usually with mini speakers connected to your device and take it in > turns to go around the circle and play a song each..normally themes emerge > as one song reminds someone of another. > > to me this is a social activity ideally suited to the medium of choice..i > could do it with my records cds or minidisks, but the properties of having > lots of audio in one tiny easy ot navigate box lets this game move quickly > and smoothly. > > just my god knows how many cents > > Phill > > ------------------------------ > With Windows Live, you can organise, edit, and share your photos. > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174be84cafe1b7046fc71405 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yikes!! Did i come across as a format junkie.. BY NO MEANS!! I am facinated= by your idea of a iPod party.. does that happen??? Great!! Didnt know that= ....

Sorry, but Film IS better than digital, and Tape IS better than= digital... but I agree.. close enough and a hell of a lot more convenient.= ..
no I was just thinking about the way people hear...

I was fascinate= d by IN EAR phones for a while, (then in ear MICRO-phones, but thats anothe= r thread... ) hoping that the music would "get in my head".. but = all i found was that the music cut out the 'verbs of the listening envi= ronment and gave me headaches... after years of pumping horrifically loud s= ounds thru my eardrums from headphones, ...no.. my hearing is fine... still= hearing 16k no probs.. no.. i just cant listen on headphones... the world = closes in and I feel claustrophobic and cut off, I start to sweat and in th= e end tear them buds out like a crazy man... cant do it...

OH... and one more thing... if I was allowed to post pics here i would = post a photo of my bus to work in the morning... was a dismal site. We are = but drones staring forward and avoiding the gazes... cripes...

m=A0



On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:54 PM, phi= llip wilson <phillwilson@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >=A0I am less
> > concerned about how the music was create= d but more concerned
> > that people are listening to music in thi= s way (plugged-in
> > on white cables - shut off from the world) a= s far as Im
> > concerned iPod users are listening wrong, and that THIS is
>= ; > bad for humanity...
> >
> >
> >
>= ; > Serious Question: Do teenagers nowadays, sit in their
> > b= edrooms with friends playing records...?
> > http://ti= nyurl.com/ledz8r

=A0
OOooohhh...ouch!!!
=A0
as a token "Young Person" myself,I see this very differantly!! =A0
My generation has grown up facing constant fluidly changing points of refer= ance when it comes to "media"..this is the world we know and acce= pt , formats change specs move on etc etc.
=A0
I personally have also grown up always seeming to be flying in the face of = an older generation of people who have become preoccupied and precious over= these "media" ...Film, Records, Paper, OS's ....they all hav= e their uses, they all have unique properties...BUT THEY ARE ALL JUST MEDIA= .
=A0
film is no more organic then CCD chips...its chemicals and man made materia= ls just with differing properties, Records have Grooves while CDs have pits= read by lazer and BOTH work.
=A0
at the end of the day, the way I have grown up has allowed me to evaluate m= y individual needs (not just primary like music=3D need for best sound qual= ity, but on a free flowing scale that takes in portability, battery life, s= ize etc) in a way which selects any one of a multitude of forms rather then= bemoaning the loss of another format that has seen its use decline (which = in itself may be just a blip, think of transistor amps...now we are all bac= k to valves!!!)
=A0
anyhoo, I rant and rave on but the ultimate point is...I feel I embrace a m= ultitude of formats, but I do so by applying WHO I AM to each one of them, = I am indeed a social creature so in the instance of "I-pods" I kn= ow of many people such as myself who play "I-pod roulette" which = is when each of you siit ,usually with mini speakers connected to your devi= ce and take it in turns to go around the circle and play a song each..norma= lly themes emerge as one song reminds someone of another.
=A0
to me this is a social activity ideally suited to the medium of choice..i c= ould do it with my=A0records cds or minidisks, but the properties of having= lots=A0of audio in one tiny easy ot navigate box lets this game move quick= ly and smoothly.
=A0
just my god knows how many cents
=A0
Phill=A0

With Windows Live, you can organise, edit, and sha= re your photos.



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--0015174be84cafe1b7046fc71405-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 17:34:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E62AF3BE88; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:34:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d3466334-9b39-4507-8a1b-83d1329299f1_" X-Originating-IP: [77.86.71.232] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequencer game) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:33:59 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907281005o68ae11a6l46c22c59a462cf85@mail.gmail.com> References: <470280.67516.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907281005o68ae11a6l46c22c59a462cf85@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jul 2009 17:33:59.0821 (UTC) FILETIME=[977223D0:01CA0FA9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:34:00 +0000 (UTC) --_d3466334-9b39-4507-8a1b-83d1329299f1_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Haha...I re read my post and on the whole decided I sounded a bit serious= =2C I was only mess-ranting too mate :)=20 =20 just seems to be somethin I have had to endure through my life as a photogr= aphy student followed by camera shop worker..onto full time photographer an= d into my currant main job as technical support officer for a web agency. =20 People swear by and cling onto certain formats because of how it mad them f= eel the first time they encountered it and so forth but by the very nature = of my lifestyle I need to addapt and probably get a but unduly tetchy when = others dont lol. =20 funny enough now we have expanded this conversation=2C I am on your side fo= r ear buds I love the THEORY of them but actually find that over the ear ph= ones are much nicer as the seem to let the sounds "breathe". =20 =20 as for Ipod parties...go for it..no matter what your chosen format=2C get y= our muso mates round with their collections and play pass the parcel with t= unes=2C its fun and you come away with a huge list of "wants" =20 Phill =20 From: mark@markfrancombe.com Date: Tue=2C 28 Jul 2009 19:05:23 +0200 Subject: Re: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequence= r game) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Yikes!! Did i come across as a format junkie.. BY NO MEANS!! I am facinated= by your idea of a iPod party.. does that happen??? Great!! Didnt know that= .... Sorry=2C but Film IS better than digital=2C and Tape IS better than digital= ... but I agree.. close enough and a hell of a lot more convenient... no I was just thinking about the way people hear...=20 I was fascinated by IN EAR phones for a while=2C (then in ear MICRO-phones= =2C but thats another thread... ) hoping that the music would "get in my he= ad".. but all i found was that the music cut out the 'verbs of the listenin= g environment and gave me headaches... after years of pumping horrifically = loud sounds thru my eardrums from headphones=2C ...no.. my hearing is fine.= .. still hearing 16k no probs.. no.. i just cant listen on headphones... th= e world closes in and I feel claustrophobic and cut off=2C I start to sweat= and in the end tear them buds out like a crazy man... cant do it... OH... and one more thing... if I was allowed to post pics here i would post= a photo of my bus to work in the morning... was a dismal site. We are but = drones staring forward and avoiding the gazes... cripes... m =20 On Tue=2C Jul 28=2C 2009 at 4:54 PM=2C phillip wilson wrote: > > I am less > > concerned about how the music was created but more concerned > > that people are listening to music in this way (plugged-in > > on white cables - shut off from the world) as far as Im > > concerned iPod users are listening wrong=2C and that THIS is > > bad for humanity... > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Serious Question: Do teenagers nowadays=2C sit in their > > bedrooms with friends playing records...? > > http://tinyurl.com/ledz8r =20 OOooohhh...ouch!!! =20 as a token "Young Person" myself=2CI see this very differantly!! =20 My generation has grown up facing constant fluidly changing points of refer= ance when it comes to "media"..this is the world we know and accept =2C for= mats change specs move on etc etc. =20 I personally have also grown up always seeming to be flying in the face of = an older generation of people who have become preoccupied and precious over= these "media" ...Film=2C Records=2C Paper=2C OS's ....they all have their = uses=2C they all have unique properties...BUT THEY ARE ALL JUST MEDIA. =20 film is no more organic then CCD chips...its chemicals and man made materia= ls just with differing properties=2C Records have Grooves while CDs have pi= ts read by lazer and BOTH work. =20 at the end of the day=2C the way I have grown up has allowed me to evaluate= my individual needs (not just primary like music=3D need for best sound qu= ality=2C but on a free flowing scale that takes in portability=2C battery l= ife=2C size etc) in a way which selects any one of a multitude of forms rat= her then bemoaning the loss of another format that has seen its use decline= (which in itself may be just a blip=2C think of transistor amps...now we a= re all back to valves!!!) =20 anyhoo=2C I rant and rave on but the ultimate point is...I feel I embrace a= multitude of formats=2C but I do so by applying WHO I AM to each one of th= em=2C I am indeed a social creature so in the instance of "I-pods" I know o= f many people such as myself who play "I-pod roulette" which is when each o= f you siit =2Cusually with mini speakers connected to your device and take = it in turns to go around the circle and play a song each..normally themes e= merge as one song reminds someone of another. =20 to me this is a social activity ideally suited to the medium of choice..i c= ould do it with my records cds or minidisks=2C but the properties of having= lots of audio in one tiny easy ot navigate box lets this game move quickly= and smoothly. =20 just my god knows how many cents =20 Phill=20 With Windows Live=2C you can organise=2C edit=2C and share your photos. --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch _________________________________________________________________ Celebrate a decade of Messenger with free winks=2C emoticons=2C display pic= s=2C and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/= --_d3466334-9b39-4507-8a1b-83d1329299f1_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Haha...I re read my post and =3Bon the whole decided I sounded a bit se= rious=2C I was only mess-ranting too mate :) =3B
 =3B
just seems to be somethin I have had to endure through my life as a photogr= aphy student followed by =3Bcamera shop worker..onto full time photogra= pher and into my currant main job as technical support officer for a web ag= ency.
 =3B
People swear by and cling onto certain formats because of how it mad them f= eel the first time they encountered it and so forth but by the very nature = of my lifestyle I =3Bneed to addapt and probably get a but unduly tetch= y when others dont lol.
 =3B
funny enough now =3Bwe have expanded this conversation=2C I am= on your side for ear buds I love the THEORY of them but actually find that= over the ear phones are much nicer as the seem to let =3Bthe sounds "b= reathe".
 =3B
 =3B
as for Ipod parties...go for it..no matter what your chosen format=2C get y= our muso mates round with their collections and play pass the parcel with t= unes=2C its fun and you come away with a huge list of "wants"
 =3B
Phill
 =3B
From: mark@markfrancombe.com
Date: Tue=2C 28 Jul 2009 19:05:23 +0200
= Subject: Re: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequence= r game)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Yikes!! Did i com= e across as a format junkie.. BY NO MEANS!! I am facinated by your idea of = a iPod party.. does that happen??? Great!! Didnt know that....

Sorry= =2C but Film IS better than digital=2C and Tape IS better than digital... b= ut I agree.. close enough and a hell of a lot more convenient...
no I wa= s just thinking about the way people hear...

I was fascinated by IN= EAR phones for a while=2C (then in ear MICRO-phones=2C but thats another t= hread... ) hoping that the music would "get in my head".. but all i found w= as that the music cut out the 'verbs of the listening environment and gave = me headaches... after years of pumping horrifically loud sounds thru my ear= drums from headphones=2C ...no.. my hearing is fine... still hearing 16k no= probs.. no.. i just cant listen on headphones... the world closes in and I= feel claustrophobic and cut off=2C I start to sweat and in the end tear th= em buds out like a crazy man... cant do it...

OH... and one more thi= ng... if I was allowed to post pics here i would post a photo of my bus to = work in the morning... was a dismal site. We are but drones staring forward= and avoiding the gazes... cripes...

m =3B



On Tue=2C Jul 28=2C 2009 at 4:54 PM=2C phillip = wilson <=3Bphi= llwilson@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B =3BI am less
>=3B >=3B concerned about how th= e music was created but more concerned
>=3B >=3B that people are lis= tening to music in this way (plugged-in
>=3B >=3B on white cables - = shut off from the world) as far as Im
>=3B >=3B concerned iPod users= are listening wrong=2C and that THIS is
>=3B >=3B bad for humanity.= ..
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B S= erious Question: Do teenagers nowadays=2C sit in their
>=3B >=3B bed= rooms with friends playing records...?
>=3B >=3B http://tinyurl.com/ledz8r

 =3B
O= Oooohhh...ouch!!!
 =3B
as a token "Young Person" myself=2CI see t= his very differantly!!
 =3B
My generation has grown up facing con= stant fluidly changing points of referance when it comes to "media"..this i= s the world we know and accept =2C formats change specs move on etc etc. =3B
I personally have also grown up always seeming to be flying in= the face of an older generation of people who have become preoccupied and = precious over these "media" ...Film=2C Records=2C Paper=2C OS's ....they al= l have their uses=2C they all have unique properties...BUT THEY ARE ALL JUS= T MEDIA.
 =3B
film is no more organic then CCD chips...its chemic= als and man made materials just with differing properties=2C Records have G= rooves while CDs have pits read by lazer and BOTH work.
 =3B
at t= he end of the day=2C the way I have grown up has allowed me to evaluate my = individual needs (not just primary like music=3D need for best sound qualit= y=2C but on a free flowing scale that takes in portability=2C battery life= =2C size etc) in a way which selects any one of a multitude of forms rather= then bemoaning the loss of another format that has seen its use decline (w= hich in itself may be just a blip=2C think of transistor amps...now we are = all back to valves!!!)
 =3B
anyhoo=2C I rant and rave on but the = ultimate point is...I feel I embrace a multitude of formats=2C but I do so = by applying WHO I AM to each one of them=2C I am indeed a social creature s= o in the instance of "I-pods" I know of many people such as myself who play= "I-pod roulette" which is when each of you siit =2Cusually with mini speak= ers connected to your device and take it in turns to go around the circle a= nd play a song each..normally themes emerge as one song reminds someone of = another.
 =3B
to me this is a social activity ideally suited to t= he medium of choice..i could do it with my =3Brecords cds or minidisks= =2C but the properties of having lots =3Bof audio in one tiny easy ot n= avigate box lets this game move quickly and smoothly.
 =3B
just m= y god knows how many cents
 =3B
Phill =3B

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 But,I do not see anything specific relating to that, and this is > 1987 we're talking about here and maybe it is just worded > differently and I can't tell? And, like I said previously, I never > used it, and don't even know *how* to use it! Ha! Just came in > the package deal I got a few yrs ago. There is something about > "system exclusive, transmitted / recognized" but I am not sure if > that is what yer after? (Or....?) You'd likely know better than I. :-) > > Cheers, > L8r... > > Rev Fever > http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ > > On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:07 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > >> hi rev - sounds like it might just be what i'm looking for >> >> i've been trying to find the manual online, but with no luck. is >> there any way you could have a quick look at yours and see if it >> will send out pc messages and cc messages (any number and value) >> as part of a looped pattern? >> >> much appeciated! >> >> sim >> >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Rev Fever >> wrote: >> Not sure if this would help, but I thought I would offer it. I >> have an older (1987) Korg SQD-8, 8 track midi recorder that I >> don't need and never used. Got it in a package deal long ago with >> a bunch of other stuff, but never used it, and don't even know >> *how* to use it! :-) But, it is real clean looking, not a scratch >> on it, etc. No power source, but it takes DC9V, and I have the >> owner's manual. It also uses floppies for data storage. Has midi >> in / out / thru, and a mini-plug phones jack. I'd take only $20 >> for it, plus whatever the postage might be. >> It would also be *one less thing* laying around in my limited >> space to have to deal with, which would be just fine with me:-) > > > Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ --Apple-Mail-1--81471085 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Hey Simeon,

What's yer zip code? Lemme know and I can = check w/ the USPS website and see what the least expensive postage / = method  would = be? 

L8r...

On Jul = 28, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:

well i = can't find the manual, but i did find a brochure which mentions that = transmitted midi data does include all pc and cc change messages - = whether they're editable or not is unclear! hard to turn down such a = great offer though...and i suppose if it doesn't work, i might be able = to sell it on.... how much do you think postage might be?
=
sim

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:18 = PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.co= m> wrote:
lol! let me hunt around for the manual a bit = more....!


On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Rev Fever <revfever@ubergadget.com> wrote:
=
= Hey Simeon,

I can't tell if it can or not? And, I'll = admit that I not the "best" person to ask concerning this type of = subject matter. :-) But,I do not see anything specific relating to that, = and this is 1987 we're talking about here and maybe it is just worded = differently and I can't tell? And, like I said previously, I never = used it, and don't even know *how* to use it!  Ha!  Just came = in the package deal I got a few yrs ago. There is something about = "system exclusive, transmitted / recognized" but I am not sure = if that is what yer after? (Or....?) You'd likely know better than I. = :-)
=

Cheers,
L8r...

On Jul 28, 2009, at = 4:07 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:

hi rev = - sounds like it might just be what i'm looking for

i've been = trying to find the manual online, but with no luck. is there any way you = could have a quick look at yours and see if it will send out pc messages = and cc messages (any number and value) as part of a looped pattern?
=
much appeciated!

sim

On = Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Rev Fever <revfever@ubergadget.com> wrote:
=
=
Not sure if this would help, but I thought I would offer it. I = have an older (1987) Korg SQD-8, 8 track midi recorder that I don't need = and never used. Got it in a package deal long ago with a bunch of other = stuff, but never used it, and don't even know *how* to use it! :-) =  But, it is real clean looking, not a scratch on it, etc. No power = source, but it takes DC9V, and I have the owner's manual. It also uses = floppies for data storage. Has midi in / out / thru, and a mini-plug = phones jack.  I'd take only $20 for it, plus whatever the postage = might be. 
It would also be *one less thing* laying = around in my limited space to have to&n= bsp;deal with, which would be just fine with = me:-)


=



= --Apple-Mail-1--81471085-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 20:03:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A5923BE87; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Wf65VKz3GE4bCr1y/aaLqWqYwZjhoVrx9Cnh0q5pSl4=; b=M02oF1LBan2Hq6eM+yS8SMtscONoxoHKI07vptdETopFDwPcp+2lxckYNkQhxZXvYk GoGk/jJf7W9cG8ooFQ82gQkjb/VGJKeWTNgQwqn32LsGdDdo0Q3ZfqBviSglQ6oC9ey0 /zfIM+rd9VnotUUCUen4p0M0waQhr14kNXILs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=XUgUQXOxx6lWsH6yTGVSL3M9xKYjTyd+KQUEgFe0hmkIbxNhJUoTssDsXVkmgsu7gH 4sM9GG1qbfY5CflX4EF5PLqbUPoqTnZB0rbh5Hx5xqfIbD5ECXgskpyohZkP9Oc3EXdp u63XAZeWRtIi+xPaRh1EwOevJw9el75LXD7FA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:02:45 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cf2e5648fc9c27a3 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907281302y6f8d172sd0fcf6d05a77f417@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be84c14eb75046fc98fac Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:03:08 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be84c14eb75046fc98fac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 mark@markfrancombe.com wrote: > > in ear MICRO-phones, but thats another thread.. > > > Would love to hear about other's experiences with binaurals? > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se Then Im ya man Per... I have been recording binaural recordings for about 2= 0 years... I started after researching what TG was using in the 80=B4s (Throbbing Gristle) and also built many pairs of mikes for in ear recording... the best I had were a sennheiser set which actaully came with = a dummy head. I have many hours of field recordings done with them... and for a while recorded some gigs using the technique.. not so impressive... unles= s you LIKE hearing the bar conversation... I have alsop recorded a totally techno record, but where all the samples (drums basss weird noises) were recorded binaurally and put into my sample in stereo as micor binaural chunks... I have made reverb tracks, by bringin= g a ghetto balster to reverby places and say opposite, recording the reverb binaurally with in ear mikes... for later addition to the mix... Art.. i checked out you page.. you really took it seriously.. I never bothe= r to make miine pretty... I just stuck em in my ears!! (with a bit of BluTack= ) and into my minidisk recorder... I cant speak for the "psychedelic" effects of "being there-ness" Im pretty certain my zoom h4 sounds basically the same, without the dummy head thing, by using crossed mike phase stuff... For serious audio weidness in this vein, get Psychic TV - Dreams Less Sweet= . Recorded using the Zucurelli Holophonic method... which I dont know what it is, but appears to be Binaural but with a mysterious black box between the head and the desk... what that box contains was a secret... (Im wiki-ing as I type) but anyway was the scariest record for many years for me... Check out the Rotweiler growling in your ear, while a Salvation Army Band marches past... Check out the Choir boy who walks all the way round you, and check out the (yes it was 1983, height of Goth... ) dummy binaural head being buried... yes buried in a coffin... in a genuine graveyard... go figure... www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --0015174be84c14eb75046fc98fac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@= gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 mark@markfra= ncombe.com wrote:
> in ear MICRO-phones, but thats another thread..


Would love to hear about other's experiences with binaurals?

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se=


Then Im ya man Per... I have been recording binau= ral recordings for about 20 years... I started after researching what TG wa= s using in the 80=B4s (Throbbing Gristle) and also built many pairs of mike= s for in ear recording... the best I had were a sennheiser set which actaul= ly came with a dummy head. I have many hours of field recordings done with = them... and for a while recorded some gigs using the technique.. not so imp= ressive... unless you LIKE hearing the bar conversation...

I have alsop recorded a totally techno record, but where all the sample= s (drums basss weird noises) were recorded binaurally and put into my sampl= e in stereo as micor binaural chunks... I have made reverb tracks, by bring= ing a ghetto balster to reverby places and say opposite, recording the reve= rb binaurally with in ear mikes... for later addition to the mix...

Art.. i checked out you page.. you really took it seriously.. I never b= other to make miine pretty... I just stuck em in my ears!! (with a bit of B= luTack) and into my minidisk recorder...

I cant speak for the "= ;psychedelic" effects of "being there-ness"=A0 Im pretty cer= tain my zoom h4 sounds basically the same, without the dummy head thing, by= using crossed mike phase stuff...

For serious audio weidness in this vein, get Psychic TV - Dreams Less S= weet. Recorded using the Zucurelli Holophonic method... which I dont know w= hat it is, but appears to be Binaural but with a mysterious black box betwe= en the head and the desk... what that box contains was a secret... (Im wiki= -ing as I type) but anyway was the scariest record for many years for me...= Check out the Rotweiler growling in your ear, while a Salvation Army Band = marches past... Check out the Choir boy who walks all the way round you, an= d check out the (yes it was 1983, height of Goth... ) dummy binaural head b= eing buried... yes buried in a coffin... in a genuine graveyard...

go figure...




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Would love to hear about other's experiences with binaurals?



oh... one last addition:

A photo of the Sennheiser Dummy= head on the CD cover...

http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D28= 6

Thjis was the techno record...Go to the album Money Hush Room..

= =A0(now i listen NOT techno AT ALL!!)=A0 PS, dont expect any typical binaur= al experience with these tracks... it all went thru some serious mulching a= fter being recorded this way...

m
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--0015174c15f069dbbc046fc9bb3b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 20:20:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2B1F3BE87; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:20:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=aAOV7xxmDVeTflytcvs0at5JJ/fCqXPMcXtXJ4M7VrI=; b=hCUFwAftiVTXFi+me+tI/xOX4tiGoQVSd2UrxHYnHlHw+1baMXepV5As6rBUmjBf59 M6FoPNZ7SaVF8nZp/S3+j8JE1FQ9DgppDG/orZVulEQfbij3h3EsRT0pxdSMaaCyWuVQ rCFxZNb6ghsbUcB8bDwVsHaltoQ44D3GFA7ok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=OS7RTYd9FVAKAibZevbnYqUzpE2YBmh1aecP8bIWLALDXtdfL2ylSiOCBN8I0dmwi+ 9TPbCuimBNkcbIWojaoyajNXLs+VQCekZphH10psmvhsKFeshYyze/qvAo14jyfDaPKx wyfp0XJ167Wz8pXivuKa9FFgS15Wi1o7Z0V4w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <470280.67516.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907281005o68ae11a6l46c22c59a462cf85@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:20:15 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 94f5bc6bd10102f9 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907281320q8eb8d51j76408d85927b923b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequencer game) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c11a69d5924046fc9cdac Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:20:36 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c11a69d5924046fc9cdac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yo.. mate... cheer up a bit... On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:05 AM, mark francombe > wrote: > > > > Sorry, but Film IS better than digital, and Tape IS better than > digital... > > but I agree.. close enough and a hell of a lot more convenient... > > no I was just thinking about the way people hear... > > These statements are false. > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c11a69d5924046fc9cdac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yo.. mate... cheer up a bit...

On Tue, Ju= l 28, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:05 AM, mark francombe<mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:<= br>

> Sorry, but Film IS better than digital, and Tape IS better than digita= l...
> but I agree.. close enough and a hell of a lot more convenient...
> no I was just thinking about the way people hear...

These statements are false.




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--0015174c11a69d5924046fc9cdac-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 20:34:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F19E83BE86; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ylgFQd5QNneV4P19ZLTXimVHflU5OEhH7qTmz4XFUI8=; b=dnqHyr7BFTH4E5us86CCWNfTtMURMM2ADDo7aTtx/qduBkk8iJXpSS+H8z4CH0bHD3 nLqAQRGRZzpPZDJOZHfi1ZfIlECI7uyCC/n4W/UYmfuhg72+i1r3H9dMhyW4xpJtMu3q hUaFk+Wt27SSjWj/rBQ0vd5aVDaUwHUse5VG4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=REiV75rxcAtNWC5kzYhVei7AiRHUn6iageYkHaKvy3f8iCGAGOvKMuKJ8A7VHqcLJE fn0Tmp/CaS+gYB3qje+OoFFG3c4wDJmY3qTeW9fMyRcLxt9R0O8aeKN7W9Ww/PfYtNov 90NeycL1Xhu8gDnXqv1sMdg/ilThJEze5rqG4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <1D3DBE88-3E36-42F5-8CFF-EB33444C81CA@ubergadget.com> <01E83079-D6B4-4AB4-9D2E-C54FD70CBAA5@ubergadget.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:34:22 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: midi sequencer needed / Korg SQD-8 From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99d46e930d1046fc9fe14 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:34:23 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d99d46e930d1046fc9fe14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ahh...forgot to mention i'm in the UK! s On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Rev Fever wrote: > Hey Simeon, > What's yer zip code? Lemme know and I can check w/ the USPS website and see > what the least expensive postage / method would be? > > L8r... > > > --0016e6d99d46e930d1046fc9fe14 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ahh...forgot to mention i'm in the UK!

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On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Rev Fever <= ;revfever@ubergadget.com>= wrote:
Hey Simeon,

What's yer zip code? Lemme know and I ca= n check w/ the USPS website and see what the least expensive postage / meth= od =A0would be?=A0

L8r...
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--0016e6d99d46e930d1046fc9fe14-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 21:13:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 051FA3BE8A; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4vDn/zWqVox1AQwbBS33JkomuCOrzW27eBzioYKTwEo=; b=BzJm69LIXClhlLzadY9MHUpkK2X2TSNRjdpWTMkn+uE/tUUcbAaYK/mK3ug4b7qQTE k4Ex46ppdkI1vubs74ccffJ5i/qD1Ds25B4xyv71NeXViNNxXoDhGaZb5K4vgAJFq1En FrbqTzoTAUkPTapwTQdyJ4QnwOnEoxO7DJrx0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ul35+HVbHEZLKYwzbp6S7r56LxpWSC6xd1XxZnBaCrlwU8j3VynyeP159/jIQSRrVW VUuCcpPQYv8RXLfv87xUjfmdNlIJ3w4ZCgT6Z1ZIRp4sIS+qKk8cbgKPO3j+r7ABpJCM L5q5gBcIkhx2Num6EzxMaHR5eojgX5IK63Q9o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907281315q2f4d1ab1y47d6bfa62eeb6212@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907281302y6f8d172sd0fcf6d05a77f417@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907281315q2f4d1ab1y47d6bfa62eeb6212@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:13:09 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0907281413u780cb071g77654461075dc2e6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:13:10 +0000 (UTC) Here are a couple of recordings I made with a homemade binaural mic. I put some WM60AY mic elements in a set of cheap earbuds. This first one I made while traveling in Malaysia. Apparently, the school children in Kuala Tahan would sing this song to their teacher at the beginning of the school day: http://rapidshare.com/files/261139960/03_Track_03.mp3 The next one isn't a binaural recording as I didn't have the earbuds in my ears when I recorded it, but it's my favorite with my homemade mics. I lived for years on a dead end street in San Francisco. This is the weekly garbage truck driving down my street and collecting the garbage. It sets off a car alarm. There is no noise reduction or audio manipulation. At 5am it was otherwise dead quiet: http://rapidshare.com/files/261139517/05_Track_05_6.mp3 On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 1:15 PM, mark francombe wro= te: > >>> >>> >>> Would love to hear about other's experiences with binaurals? >>> > > > oh... one last addition: > > A photo of the Sennheiser Dummy head on the CD cover... > > http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D286 > > Thjis was the techno record...Go to the album Money Hush Room.. > > =A0(now i listen NOT techno AT ALL!!)=A0 PS, dont expect any typical bina= ural > experience with these tracks... it all went thru some serious mulching af= ter > being recorded this way... > > m > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 21:24:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E34993BE80; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:24:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=16fPX4GyzCHl7Mn/EVGkVIWHa5nOSapEv4v8erxIdrQ=; b=EdhasIIxRGeS2reqDQthTxAH31UNW50rpEqe/RySVVFMvhxE962BU9kZjo5lyztoxE AJpnQve6LPU0W+beHzTPfUu1M2g9CtUBtPZZBnhGM7Mn6oylgs3tjVbtGZ8h4dNsLH6B DMh4W4qXlaNl3HIKxOPZ4azGvofdVs4zkyEh8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=E7EKATG4/1gcxP/Kl1mlzl9CtBaMJ48c/v8n+jHyawXggx3MUxYIKSC0fE9cGSf58a jQ60PCH4zMaMtFfONNMUZNnMaNO0zLxOTpcVCMP0gueN0ME3j0nEDiLbpRpc8cu6k/q7 e0JSki14KinIhWnRPDJ7Nby5ZzrcTaD8Ty9PE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:24:31 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907281424u74e25c2dx8e5d68d143d8861a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Review: Jomox T-Resonator "Time Woven Filter Matrix" From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:24:32 +0000 (UTC) Some time ago, when I asked here about odd kind of stompboxes, Andy Butler pointed me toward the Jomox T-Resonator. Now that I finally had time to test drive it some, here's a first review. OT notice: the thing isn't a looper, but you can of course use it in conjunction with a looper. How does that work? Read on! The German Jomox company had been founded during the high tide of rave and techno and other elektro styles in the mid-nineties and had their focus on the genre-typical analogue retro synths, where names like xbase999 and xbase888 roughly tell where it's at. Of course, it's only logical to follow suit with the ancestry of Moog and offer effects boxes as well, and the M-Resonator (released in 2005) and the T-Resonator (released in 2008, German street price of =80279) are, as you might have expected, mainly filters. WHAT IS IT: A black table-top-style box with wallwart power supply, a lot of dials, a few LEDs and one pushbutton. As for the signal path, the stereo device offers two identical paths consisting of a simple digital effect, followed by a 24dB lowpass filter. Now that alone wouldn't get anyone interested, so Jomox added feedback and modulation capabilities. As for feedback, there is a total of three feedback chains, each available with positive and negative phase. One is just round the filter, the second goes back to the input of the digital effect, and the third one is a cross feedback leading to the input of the other channel's filter. As for modulation, there's one envelope follower (not adjustable in any way), which can control filter cutoff (and some parameters with the digital effects, see below), and there's an LFO (0.15-22Hz sine) which can control filter cutoff. Note that if you use both envelope and LFO as modulation source, both signals are multiplied, and the LFO is retriggered each time the envelope restarts. For additional fun, the output of each filter can control the cutoff of the other filter - note that this is not an envelope follower, rather it follows the actual waveform. About the digital effect: there's a total of eight effects available, all of them delay-like (and from now on all called "delay"): chorus, flanger, two "waveguide" algorithms (4-6 short (<30ms) delay lines for phase cancellation-like effects), two delays (500ms+500ms vs. 1s+30ms) and two reverbs. For each effect, there are two parameters adjustable with knobs, and two more controlled by the envelope follower (not controllable in any way). The delay lines take any kind of length change with the genre typical bend and without any artifacts. Another sidenote: the thing doesn't appear to be overtly sturdy. Its only pushbutton (bypass) already feels like it will see the end of times approaching. USED ALL ALONE: Lots of feedback loops - this should also make noise on its own - great for those "no input feedback network" people. And getting this thing to make noises is quite simple. Turn up negative feedback for ugly queaks, turn up positive feedback for low-frequency woofer smashing. Of course, it gets more interesting than that when you put a flanger in the feedback chain (instead of or parallel to the normal filter feedback) or cross-feedback both filters. The use of the LFO is, well, as boring as you'd expect, taking that it only offers sine waves and barely reaches into the usable audible frequency range. Of course, having one filter on low-frequency-rumble modulate the other's cutoff can help here. ON A GUITAR: Of the digital effects, the waveguide effect is big fun, also based on the fact that the delay lines are modulated by the input envelope. Put that together with some feedback around the delay, and you get some bowed-glass-like sounds. Use a quick LFO on filter cutoff, and you get filteresque gating effects. It's not something that is entirely new or novel, but some interesting additions to the repertoire. It gets tricky with a clean to slightly distorted guitar sound, playing short, slow melody segments and adjusting the thing in the intervals in between. Tricky adjustment of the filters and delays allows for tape-delay-style noise buildup (and actually, the feedback gain over the delay loop can be set to >100%), so there is that territory to use it as a normal effect (meaning one that doesn't mash up your guitar beyond recognition) with some personal attitude. ON SOME ELEKTRO STUF: Now time for some pattern sequencer TB303-like lines. First thing I notice is that even with the filter cutoff fully open, the filter is obviously already far below the signal's frequency top - bad. What is new (in relation to the common repertoire) is positive filter feedback for some aggressive growling. But you don't get those screaming filters we're used to. Of course you don't get them - there's no distortion. Quickly put a Boss OD-2 into the chain - more specifically synth into M-Resonator channel 1 into OD-2 into M-Resonator channel 2. Now that's more like it! Both filters, its internal feedback paths and the overdrive pedal interact in a really nice, non-linear and sometimes really unexpected way. Add some frequency modulation for odd chirping, let the filters sing together with the distortion - that's exactly what filter freaks like. And as it turns out, the addition of a distortion box also makes it much more interesting in the no-input configuration. ON LOOPS: If your loop is a sparse guitar (or other melody) line, it works fine - see "on a guitar". If it's more dense, then forget it. The result is either boring or some big wash. SUMMARY: With the tons of feedback options, the integrated delay and the filter frequency modulation, Jomox have obviously tried to tread on new grounds in the analogue filter world. And that is a wise choice for someone releasing a thing that does, basically, only filter in 2008. It's a little hard to understand which target group they're aiming at, however: the form factor of the tabletop case makes it impractical both for guitarists' floorboards and for rackmounted studios, the only remaining choice being tabletop setups of DJs (which I can't envision using this) or the noise music crowd. The more analogue-gear-inclined people no doubt would've liked more control (CV) jacks, while for the non-modular crowd might have liked a more powerful LFO instead. I do see the lack of a more powerful LFO (with a bigger choice of waveforms and a bigger frequency range) and the missing distortion feature as the two biggest drawbacks. If it had that, an otherwise very specialized self-oscillation generator which can also be used on melody instruments with some very careful adjustments would be turned into a really unique effect useful for guitarists (and other instrumentalists) and elektro synth people alike. I'm currently reflecting whether I'm going to return it. It's just...not really great, but not completely normal, either. And it's relatively small. Rainer ps: perhaps I'll do a short video shortly if I'm in the mood. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 21:37:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C1C73BE86; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:37:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wtdPMt4UMM9SxFrMt+bzF4qq79WMEG2kgKxtSaDJk2A=; b=tJr91lFzwN5duuF2WKx35i41JxhMTEyjnynrYDGWrMLHnuZOa+S6feoWMg8aOU9yyi KZFLiu4eX8j0pGPaRUD3YjBERLWi9qplhEq1c4/l8No2iDPFspYCKaOL2uRF4Iil3H6W eUbYs8tuBe+Idq2xLGcrnsXmvRZi5LM8/tmjo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H0ePcGrjrmu46vGZVDxxwZpvf4Q5lVv/pBbRvYQi75gJ8YqEzuKbjtMgntB2RWMT4R alR810G5FyBBGMes0dpYCY5z1c7LbNAdexWgAh0YFYT5nL+oMCtmyMaTukqKkLkPcObO DkP3YvRYcjLDQwaphKanQ+yxgRXFP53Z1h/fY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907281320q8eb8d51j76408d85927b923b@mail.gmail.com> References: <470280.67516.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907281005o68ae11a6l46c22c59a462cf85@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907281320q8eb8d51j76408d85927b923b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:37:29 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30907281437n706f81a2te1fe0384cad510a2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequencer game) From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:37:30 +0000 (UTC) We're watching you Francombe! U sum kinda FORMAT JUNKIE?! *-) -m On 7/28/09, mark francombe wrote: > Yo.. mate... cheer up a bit... > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Mark Sottilaro > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:05 AM, mark > francombe wrote: > > > > > > > Sorry, but Film IS better than digital, and Tape IS better than > digital... > > > but I agree.. close enough and a hell of a lot more convenient... > > > no I was just thinking about the way people hear... > > > > These statements are false. > > > > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 21:56:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57BCD3BE88; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:56:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1248818197; bh=Ws0KEpktGLBMut1TpekiupLab3JDb1QhvVL594J379o=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=YbdYdG3PgWUN16aUJH0yg/k48HcEJoB8M+LgnFvupptH01eHCN5RgsNI53sNSKk8m WU4Y6lSD5BllXqtKfenKTBPY9MYeiZ2tRqEBijZm++08NCKjhysGog0oN4kXlBobJ2 70aEXOtr3o+w7NxkukS5KvVDtlkj5YIy5uCblGmI= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: best listening websites in europe(What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:55:55 +0200 Message-ID: <000001ca0fce$2f42b160$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcoPedrPqzbksZKLRDCCeDUSKQDGWgAUUjsg In-Reply-To: <20090728115204.202570@gmx.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:56:38 +0000 (UTC) Ciao Luis, Va bene? ;) last.fm is highly recommended, I discovered many interesting artists there. --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 22:35:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4ADBD3BE84; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=trZDlP5QbHsR17zscTfboe/u1un0//qNIHGDxB7G0gA=; b=lmAbwWxGpUm4g88SeK0ZUIwxQ2/vKGgWOdmxTUy3SoH2vl04TkJcNcjNsXjnBPMViP jWPPI7gWK87wArmfMh5eInYaD+8QpnK5YxAU7TXZAc4G3ZuiqldwndlcNgnYhQRzttxV rr+wn/kM5Xt8z07m3OPh8gsdOcmP7Y1ovsWms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=sbmcfzEm6b4ct9ABqvNDJXoOrURAVorE1rK2wMsYXgK+ek6KMwKAcqFUR9hCM2I1Z3 A+8mP7JOXjVLqMMjmbsyCWY9z+wwsebyXvSbjIGRIiVmKOLwUHONJaPjbxphei6Joj4L BLVt/r/xsplOXSVFI0gHKxYATMgW8WRQA8mlw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907281424u74e25c2dx8e5d68d143d8861a@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0907281424u74e25c2dx8e5d68d143d8861a@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:35:05 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 498e364fae7bfb03 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907281535y68b34fcqe1198f403131cf56@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Review: Jomox T-Resonator "Time Woven Filter Matrix" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3fe4ca5be6046fcbafc0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:35:26 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c3fe4ca5be6046fcbafc0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Rainer Straschill < moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote: > ps: perhaps I'll do a short video shortly if I'm in the mood. > PLEASE.. im sure it will take you about the same time it took to write that extremely indepth review!!! m -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c3fe4ca5be6046fcbafc0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Rainer= Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
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--0015174c3fe4ca5be6046fcbafc0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 22:51:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A308F3BE8B; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 443 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:51:26 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:references; bh=Lsc0WCoiil8oHW4VtK7S4BiYX0bVtLzvCTK0BIOBfj0=; b=ErhUXpn6O+ZArBW7mho9Xel4ZiCweTzNVPZ+egnlY+z8HSxG+Q2lCCrpouNuS+6q37 8XjiqhgxxuNcDWbMsHkodubyx5UH5BKoGl0aN9V7NuI4X+LnNkNQMQg+JffCaSuXNZ7L mzHwcspcyPZs9Nanx1Af8Vujhvxxb7Q+lk1fE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; b=JpZLy1pMrBTM/JZPvWS1DYrwtU4RJMu9lMzxLvjXZSoaZODbiMjdtau429qWRlJVw/ +tWv2FAEePfo04plUZGhtzxDRqcxzKdj5/k1N8qrt+Bs6BM8H4/lcHg0/mCOGOSjqzCs bEofs5HW5O6+BUFuzkWgYRG9T372jT1dQ2cFg= Message-Id: From: Mark Sottilaro To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30907281437n706f81a2te1fe0384cad510a2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A341) Subject: Re: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequencer game) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:43:57 -0700 References: <470280.67516.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907281005o68ae11a6l46c22c59a462cf85@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907281320q8eb8d51j76408d85927b923b@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30907281437n706f81a2te1fe0384cad510a2@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Sorry, it's just that this type of goodolddayism is keeping the flying car and silver jump suits from becoming reality! Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Miko Biffle wrote: > We're watching you Francombe! U sum kinda FORMAT JUNKIE?! *-) -m > > On 7/28/09, mark francombe wrote: >> Yo.. mate... cheer up a bit... >> >> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Mark Sottilaro > > >> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:05 AM, mark >> francombe wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Sorry, but Film IS better than digital, and Tape IS better than >> digital... >>>> but I agree.. close enough and a hell of a lot more convenient... >>>> no I was just thinking about the way people hear... >>> >>> These statements are false. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch >> > > > -- > Miko Biffle > Biffoz@Gmail.com > MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com > "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jul 28 23:11:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EF083BE8B; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Uoz+OlN0bCQd+8Zh9xlb9aQza7xYsrFuj1sW01nW3v0=; b=sHAWb4MuzB0UaEzwLv4lrRnmGN1Q4T/5hhbD00Jiup+KWLi5FQPKM/urx2+13Dr01X ZcB/mvdn3XhPQN7ywThYsJL2VlprGQWN0VZuFQmbGQ78JMzWmg6+yK9y49gubLWMI/fp ilgpGgFbhM85Otqhl50zUBDZe3GchQqv0f9q8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=FnhaaRBwZQBoCbSkFh60DX8IWClPvAUJzsCOEdQ0C20gzwfvmxxquVj9ueGYIsluWf s8ONXnCtuH2mNhQGBHqbCDxU2vPj+aFA/NvlvzMaF0w+Zqu4dEnVzDCeqsQ+y9L4cZ0d 4OZE4f3REzh4Hp65iROnDRBLwaSxbZh0p3VfA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <470280.67516.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907281005o68ae11a6l46c22c59a462cf85@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907281320q8eb8d51j76408d85927b923b@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30907281437n706f81a2te1fe0384cad510a2@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:10:58 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e69cc71457ac3cf8 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0907281610s5696b5b0k7e7c0dcbcc232eb0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequencer game) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c11a61e0f86046fcc30ac Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:11:19 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c11a61e0f86046fcc30ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Sent from my iPhone yawn... -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c11a61e0f86046fcc30ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Mark S= ottilaro <ze= rocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:
Sent from my iPhone

yawn...


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--0015174c11a61e0f86046fcc30ac-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 01:26:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C36793BE75; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A6FA546.3040808@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:26:30 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: End of the Road (for now) References: <7334ca1b0907281424u74e25c2dx8e5d68d143d8861a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907281424u74e25c2dx8e5d68d143d8861a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:26:35 +0000 (UTC) With my 41st gig on Sunday, I've finished my summer tour. I'll soon be updating my official diary (which I quickly lost sight of, not two weeks out) with pix and stories. So many Loopfolks helped out, from setting up shows, to playing beside me, to hosting my tired bones, to coming out for performances, to showing me the sights of their towns, and I wanted to thank you all. Hoping I don't miss anyone: Matt Davignon, Ted Killian, Dave Trenkel, Nevyn Nowhere, Travis Hartnett, Krispen Hartung, Bob Collier, JD Devros, Rev Fever, Ted Harms, James Bailey, Brian Good, Michael Klobuchar (next time, bro), Steve Burnett, and of course Jim Goodin. I can't thank each of you enough. Next tour is October, doing the same western loop. hope to see some of you wonderful folks again. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 02:14:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74DB53BE89; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: OT: Dumble amps Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:14:00 -0700 Message-ID: <866A1DFC50DF404C9BE1DEE9BDC178B2@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA0FB7.931C07C0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoP8jw6JO52Jx7/QzuCBzqq/A7Oeg== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:14:07 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA0FB7.931C07C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know this is a bit off topic but I thought some of you analog heads and guitar tone freaks might get a kick out of this. As you may know, Alexander (don't call me Howard) Dumble is a legendary custom builder of guitar amps that now because of there rarity and celebrity connections (Robben Ford, Larry Carlton, and more recently, Carlos Santana to name a few) fetch ridiculous amounts of money. John Mayer single handedly drove the price up and then down a couple of years ago when he bought as many as he could find, kept and had cloned his favorite one, and sold the rest, thus flooding the market temporarily. There are only around 300 of these amps in existence, so half dozen amps is flooding the market. This is information coming from what I believe to be reliable sources, but even if its urban legend, it's a testament to how revered and coveted by collectors these amps are. I was the test driver of an amp that was sold by the widow of a prominent local musician a while back, and I've played a couple of others over the years. The amp I most recently played hadn't been played in over 10 years, so it needed to be cleaned up a bit but all of the tubes where good and once it had been burned in for a while, it played and performed like Dumble Amps are known for, amazing clean sounds at any volume and creamy versatile overdrive at any volume, with fantastic headroom and touch sensitivity. It was a 100 watt overdrive special head with a two twelve cabinet with EVM speakers. It sold for $50,000!!!!!! Dumble started building amps in Santa Cruz before moving to LA, so I knew people back in the day that owned them, I even owned an early 60 watt slave power amp for a little while in the 80's but I let it go. It was nothing Like his flagship amps. Recently I have become intrigued with trying to capture that sound without spending $50,000. Dumble amps are a unique combination of solid state and tube designs, with the solid state portion being an FET preamp at the front end of the amplifier , soft clipping and driving the preamp and power tube stages, in other words a built in distortion box in front of and amp largely inspired by fender blackface designs. I own a great overdrive box called the Zendrive by Hermida Audio, inspired by that bit of circuitry at the front of dumble amps that he hid from view with black silicone glue, and in front of a fender black face style amp (which includes the clean channels on modern fender tube amps), it sounds very dumble-like to my ears . A product called the Ethos which resembles the front panel of a dumble amp and can be used for direct recording as well, has recently caught my eye and while reading a review by a Berklee college Prof named Thaddeus Hogarth http://thaddeushogarth.berkleemusicblogs.com/, I came across this Dumble catalogue from 1990, be sure to read down the page to the part about consultant fees, hysterical. http://akamai.www.berkleemusic.com/assets/display/14614697/dumble.pdf Other than briefly coming out of retirement to build an amp for Carlos Santana, Howard, I mean Alexander, Dumble is all but retired from amp building, and his eccentricities are legendary, but he new how to build a better amp. As the article by Prof Hogarth states there is an entire cottage industry of amp and pedal builders trying to capture that sound. What can I say, I love the analog sound. 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I know this is a bit off topic but I thought some of = you analog heads and guitar tone freaks might get a kick out of = this.

As you may know, Alexander (don’t call me = Howard) Dumble is a legendary custom builder of guitar amps that now because of = there rarity and celebrity connections (Robben Ford, Larry Carlton, and more = recently, Carlos Santana to name a few)  fetch ridiculous amounts of money. = John Mayer single handedly drove the price up and then down a couple of years ago = when he bought as many as he could find, kept and had cloned his favorite one, = and sold the rest, thus flooding the market temporarily. There are only around = 300 of these amps in existence, so half dozen amps is flooding the market. This = is information coming from what I believe to be reliable sources, but even = if its urban legend, it’s a testament to how revered and coveted by = collectors these amps are. I was the test driver of an amp that was sold by the widow of = a prominent local musician a while back, and I’ve played a couple of = others over the years. The amp I most recently played hadn’t been played = in over 10 years, so it needed to be cleaned up a bit but all of the tubes where = good and once it had been burned in for a while, it played and performed like = Dumble Amps are known for, amazing clean sounds at any volume and creamy = versatile overdrive at any volume, with fantastic headroom and touch sensitivity. It was a = 100 watt overdrive special head with a two twelve cabinet with EVM speakers. It = sold for $50,000!!!!!!  Dumble started building amps in Santa Cruz before = moving to LA, so I knew people back in the day that owned them, I even owned an = early  60 watt slave power amp for a little while in the 80’s but I let it = go. It was nothing Like his flagship amps. Recently I have become intrigued = with trying to capture that sound without spending $50,000.  Dumble amps = are a unique combination of solid state and tube designs, with the solid state portion being an FET preamp at the front end of the amplifier , soft = clipping and driving the preamp and power tube stages, in other words a built in distortion box in front of and amp largely inspired by fender blackface designs. I own a great overdrive box called the Zendrive by Hermida = Audio, inspired by that bit of circuitry at the front of dumble amps that he = hid from view with black silicone glue, and in front of a fender black face style amp = (which includes the clean channels on modern fender tube amps), it sounds very = dumble-like to my ears . A product called the Ethos which resembles the front panel = of a dumble amp and can be used for direct recording as well, has recently = caught my eye and while reading a review by a Berklee college Prof named Thaddeus =  Hogarth http://thaddeushog= arth.berkleemusicblogs.com/,

 I came across this Dumble catalogue from 1990, = be sure to read down the page to the part about consultant fees, = hysterical.

http://akamai.www.berkleemusic.com/assets/display/14614697/dumble.p= df

 Other than briefly coming out of retirement to = build an amp for Carlos Santana, Howard, I mean Alexander,  Dumble is all = but retired from amp building, and his eccentricities are legendary, but he = new how to build a better amp. As the article by Prof Hogarth states there is an = entire cottage industry of amp and pedal builders trying to capture that sound. =

What can I say, I love the analog = sound.

 Bill

------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA0FB7.931C07C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 02:21:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DE5B3BE8D; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:21:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <8A7855E5-B45E-4CB3-ACB8-CD8DC2AFA12D@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <866A1DFC50DF404C9BE1DEE9BDC178B2@williamsteed> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: OT: Dumble amps Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:21:01 -0500 References: <866A1DFC50DF404C9BE1DEE9BDC178B2@williamsteed> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:21:07 +0000 (UTC) Check out (esp.) the Two Rock Custom Clean and/or 10th Anniversary amps, if you're looking at getting a Dumble sound without quite the Dumble price tag. These amps still are anything but cheap, however. Eric Johnson's Dumble Steel String Singer also had amazing tone, imho. His dirty rhythm sound hasn't been quite the same since he stopped using it. I highly recommend destroyallguitars.com if anyone is looking into buying this amp or other boutique gear. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 02:21:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD4023BE93; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:21:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1248834084; bh=j5Mpefv6eZZQo+t7W3Hw1gKVBuBVrWr9a2opilbkgEU=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Up8gNsVgt1VJrSc446f8acdLy7oldxWtTASJUgV0kwSO+lBGAceAiWpmH5wyFnpC+ nDIKk1ms5UJvZGjfT4iOMVDqC/3572cA2HAGDgoXDR4eJFNG2UpvkLja41dhhsHr7I 1zrsp5vfWYVesB1NhSTuOBxvdyYmX3GFQ7obbSns= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: Greetings from Sweden Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:21:12 +0200 Message-ID: <000001ca0ff3$3e775d00$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcoP8zn3hdeteemuSu6oLBWXRetAbw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:21:25 +0000 (UTC) What do you do when you are awake in the middle of the night? Of course, = you make music! Btw: I didn't sample Per Boysen, but the flute I used is = from my Nord synth...which is also Swedish ;) Enjoy http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/22_Greetings_from_Sweden.mp3 ---=20 Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 03:19:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AFBA3BE89; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:19:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <8A26B5E8-5674-4757-9888-B9D611F665BC@charter.net> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000001ca0ff3$3e775d00$020313ac@PIPO> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Greetings from Sweden X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:19:04 -0700 References: <000001ca0ff3$3e775d00$020313ac@PIPO> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:19:09 +0000 (UTC) Very nice Sjaak. On Jul 28, 2009, at 7:21 PM, Sjaak wrote: > What do you do when you are awake in the middle of the night? Of > course, you > make music! Btw: I didn't sample Per Boysen, but the flute I used is > from my > Nord synth...which is also Swedish ;) Enjoy > > http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/22_Greetings_from_Sweden.mp3 > --- > Sjaak > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 03:29:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E1203BE8A; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NYaWgjK8ZxOsumWVJ+1CPufD+ofGrvxBw70CCOk7K+k=; b=lqUvvw7zPkfjLp6VFhoHHw8E/C0F4qIe7YPA7Zv/9gdFcfcZzTvHPxW2EaYqGrEX3e JfO5cSdaMhN58ByT1O0Uw4ZJTCGsnVAwVGsmMr0txOtOdP97IqkQirsItj9K3vxIeA3h pRFwvQJiqR3F3rjKq6Ph/3kruxGLAY4V4nEsk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NLwZBWhwW+BN4qMKK2HloVfHBig04MGbDspnqs8bUfguoEjw24cB4Yp5On7z2BevJE opMdfbHRWuTbWGDFHQIbMud5Q1DMRvV+lpUlxWt+r6q0rtaVrY+DiXrdxaOnOY77wxo2 JxIb9bwAXlqt5LwfPWz4xHTaEj5YPm3BmqSnk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <470280.67516.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907281005o68ae11a6l46c22c59a462cf85@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907281320q8eb8d51j76408d85927b923b@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30907281437n706f81a2te1fe0384cad510a2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:29:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequencer game) From: Mark Sottilaro To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Seriously though, one of the ways to push my buttons is to make blanket "this is better" statements rather than "I like this better for these reasons." Film has a look and has some advantages, but it poisons the environment and for what... grandma's snapshots of her grandkids? Best put that stuff digitally. Also, my best friend works for Leaf camera and they'll put most film under the table quality wise, though they're super expensive. It's all moot though, as both tape and film will be gone soon. Because they're so much better? Maybe not in every way or to everyone. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Mark Sottilaro wro= te: > Sorry, it's just that this type of goodolddayism is keeping the flying ca= r > and silver jump suits from becoming reality! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 28, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Miko Biffle wrote: > >> We're watching you Francombe! =A0U sum kinda FORMAT JUNKIE?! =A0*-) =A0-= m >> >> On 7/28/09, mark francombe wrote: >>> >>> Yo.. mate... cheer up a bit... >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Mark Sottilaro >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:05 AM, mark >>> >>> francombe wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Sorry, but Film IS better than digital, and Tape IS better than >>> >>> digital... >>>>> >>>>> but I agree.. close enough and a hell of a lot more convenient... >>>>> no I was just thinking about the way people hear... >>>> >>>> These statements are false. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.markfrancombe.com >>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >>> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >>> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch >>> >> >> >> -- >> Miko Biffle >> Biffoz@Gmail.com >> MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com >> "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 03:30:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 984C23BE8A; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=t2XyFswKLT6ZaDCvRqJdSutjIzI7FyS7cJX9DaHw9B0=; b=WSC5/k2UtxUymG/zdSUNKWR0KhBXeDhwvtSQvC6qXX12HxezrEbYmvcsX1razVeVgI iyupj8Sj4Tqo+VVNg/InUHAnl7V9HbInhfUZBRMA8v/PmAe65pPI4PQDU4YWY86nMv3P xKPi25BtmpZdCUheieh+Sg5pMWx/Pp8dOofJU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Eoc79MMAgoBjsjjN12D7MZ3XhAXA4Lf66Y4dBp7pa54mz5DtbrDHABqdjPFvTTQhqI AyBXSt/8Ep7WO8yZvdPUYdy0XKrz064TdICviIXt7o4wM86HQIqPIWik/ctVBoLGojqS f3/rGBNUKS6c88Nl2hy2JDCF+RBiGqNccAoew= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0907281610s5696b5b0k7e7c0dcbcc232eb0@mail.gmail.com> References: <470280.67516.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0907281005o68ae11a6l46c22c59a462cf85@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907281320q8eb8d51j76408d85927b923b@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30907281437n706f81a2te1fe0384cad510a2@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0907281610s5696b5b0k7e7c0dcbcc232eb0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:30:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: toys for non-musicians (was: online real time looping sequencer game) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:30:25 +0000 (UTC) I know this stuff is pretty complex, but try to stay awake, you might learn something. :D On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:10 PM, mark francombe wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Mark Sottilaro > wrote: >> >> Sent from my iPhone > > yawn... > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 04:58:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57ECC3BE87; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:58:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4KxY5Nsxz0Q89Uw1JhQesrYWw0LJHGuXQimnZYfgq4M=; b=CRXVCis0KOsKuXVSY5SSmwQsJbIfZOstH/vhyUdVC2nW+B1zCb1J1HWvahjhEqPnKg mIZ0s6HoFPa9YGL6ta1rs6PizkfonUT7Ehgv4375hulXsRjpaQXDdrzr89XA+htzgELf Cox6HOXuv2xQMo3i8uj2Lgps/UIMaZ0Bclnpw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=M+B53kfKNAayK+Wv/FE8SiSGAoYnMqB7KfyX7m8wSh9erHYyjcsVxXL7CMWBm4B1pX IHVd0v20G5A1BZklGWof6qa3Qucg5UGC8JFZpt9zqMLNgOsz3UMay0NJ1y4zvx/swIb0 Yv6PmVY87rwa/0bNhbgtHtDiMzSWUDVg3d5X4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8A26B5E8-5674-4757-9888-B9D611F665BC@charter.net> References: <000001ca0ff3$3e775d00$020313ac@PIPO> <8A26B5E8-5674-4757-9888-B9D611F665BC@charter.net> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:58:14 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Greetings from Sweden From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:58:16 +0000 (UTC) Nice track! On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:19 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wr= ote: > Very nice Sjaak. > > On Jul 28, 2009, at 7:21 PM, Sjaak wrote: > >> What do you do when you are awake in the middle of the night? Of course, >> you >> make music! Btw: I didn't sample Per Boysen, but the flute I used is fro= m >> my >> Nord synth...which is also Swedish ;) Enjoy >> >> http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/22_Greetings_from_Sweden.mp3 >> --- >> Sjaak >> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 09:06:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 180E33BEA4; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:06:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248858377; bh=nmcgmRTwzwXuhNYOBU7rO2CFqXNMqerZ7xhyZZemMSw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bg7YFyqf0Hr455+gVJWRsrGYyOYDUhSVtx3LyapEaLpJllGmIhtl/8l+IX5LjFQ9jSGDZeWTbxri201LI12XoPNg9nhHqXu/F60wUX59jZpOq4OSB5dvquH18pvdXouwW+zkehoy6HRmtTybz1qjwf6VEdpZnICuH22VhZyVixA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nWvORv8/LXiLJaZVmUz6uywVsZAeoqPkdS7AeVRHHCFrV00EsV5LSsG93COL5ScVgLOJKRB0io4SnzYK+QBj4Is2WnvjevMseiv7a3vTwNx0alYLS4a8nXQtWFEj35wWYhLTFgNIMQWFV8o3tJ8srBqgw7uJa3u1N3V1SH9Jrw4=; Message-ID: <590078.22635.qm@web24302.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:06:17 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: RE: best listening websites in europe(What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000001ca0fce$2f42b160$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:06:19 +0000 (UTC) right on bro will check it out!=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A= --- Sjaak schrieb am Di, 28.7.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Sjaak= =0A> Betreff: RE: best listening websites in europe(W= hat's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable)=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com=0A> Datum: Dienstag, 28. Juli 2009, 14:55=0A> Ciao Luis,=0A> Va ben= e? ;) last.fm is highly recommended, I discovered=0A> many interesting=0A> = artists there.=0A> =0A> --- =0A> Sjaak=0A> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ =0A> = http://euroloopfest.com/=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 11:18:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8EFE3BE85; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:17:56 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20090729111756.86050@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: OT: Notron Latronic - alternatives? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/V2UtrE3TVDaWq32U47Z6LriVhXfqRDaNtxo/+0y /RqbQDFY1ggg5T0IUrKrDBLkdy6qRVCap5XA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: ikISHtoBbXB+XcxpyTU2YfMiLyUmZUg6 X-FuHaFi: 0.68 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks I used to be fascinated by the legendary Notron Latronic (blue, mk2, never had one...) :( So I was wondering: Do you have any suggestions for a good, affordable (software/hardware) alternative? - Anyone tried the software emulation? http://www.dspaudio.com/ - Any features in Logic/Ableton getting the same results? I don't think I'll invest too much time&money. Basically, it's just for messing around. Best regards Buzap -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 11:20:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0891F3BE85; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:20:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:20:08 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20090729112008.76640@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Audio link two computers in real-time: ethernet? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+qOksPZ8GqTh33SinEc5QLS5CpX2eWNvGH4MkfS3 /QogIaAKb9i7URq94ta9dBY7IN+Dv7WRrvig== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: DUEZJYIlMydhbP5OkWtlbK5jaGRhZlqR X-FuHaFi: 0.72 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:20:10 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks I was just wondering: What's the best way to link two computers (mac or pc): One would get the original signal via Firewire, add some FX and pass it two the next. Would this work with Ethernet (what protocol/concept? Rewire?)? What's the best practice here to make this work in real-time? best regards Buzap -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser From calendar-invite@reply.yahoo.com Wed Jul 29 11:25:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 326 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:25:02 UTC Received: from n28.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (n28.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.223]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0191A3BE7C for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:24:51 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=gcom1024; t=1248866702; bh=KYuzcJ4IpXtUPJ0JgVrnqnRGXJ0BSHM07FwPQa1wa/E=; h=Received:Received:Date:Received:x-yahoo-newman-errors:MIME-Version:Reply-to:Return-Path:Errors-To:From:To:Subject:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-RocketSRV:Content-Type; b=lWHmGlYGAPDHAaKbuSBSwMlTB2oBCwoyvs138n9WKIWUvW/HvHLVPoOw4vKaUR1GKP8ymiRw394JKoc/pIWmxtJMb62YqRFkx9/p1HMu7pZugiPaQBOwKzfrEBMRWYbF7iXdtqiMFfFXrQL7PP+Nf0e5v1XBOo5E90gkuDrprKs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=gcom1024; d=yahoo.com; b=X/7tWTRdnOTy/VAu8mSttaWQzkAoKslL1UmZO2EeSMaga4eoh3VMU6jkI26jscZtOZp2eT3tHJ3hV9Y6EcpSriUTbHsO1FcjQN0WgMNkNcuB7TA15poqFzkGPW+HVZBSb/POhgtLCtiWNRbUriDw1XwNf/6hEHIKL7Z59RFIiOU=; Received: from [68.142.194.243] by n28.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jul 2009 11:19:24 -0000 Received: from [209.191.93.244] by t1.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jul 2009 11:19:24 -0000 Date: 29 Jul 2009 04:19:24 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by web121.cal.pim.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jul 2009 11:19:24 -0000 x-yahoo-newman-errors: calendar-invite.mzqxi6k7o5swi4tbm5xtai3mgiwtcmruha4dmnrtgy2c2ztbor4v653fmrzgcz3pgarwymr2ge4te-looparc=loopers-delight.com@returns.bulk.yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-to: faty_wedrago0@yahoo.com Errors-To: faty_wedrago0@yahoo.com From: faty Wedrago To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: i am a princess i need yr help to transfer my father wealth pls reply me urgent X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: calendar-invite X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: faty_wedrago0#l2-1248866364-faty_wedrago0#l2:192 X-RocketSRV: siu=http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/pim/el/inv16_1.gif;siw=16;sih=16;allow=all Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="YCalInvites=U7mlt1WDPaEuMuZi1M344qwuX1tJ3RJ1248866360-1" Message-Id: <20090729112502.0191A3BE7C@arsenic.violacea.com> --YCalInvites=U7mlt1WDPaEuMuZi1M344qwuX1tJ3RJ1248866360-1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; You are invited to "i am a princess i need yr help to transfer my father wealth pls reply me urgent". 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Street:   Dear friend, How are you today,i hope fine?I am a female student from University of Burkina-Faso, Ouagadougou. I am 22 yrs old. I will love to have a long-term relationship with you and to know more about you. I would like to build up a solid foundation with you in time coming if you can be able to help me in this transaction. Well, my father died earlier 1 year ago and left I and my junior brother behind. He was a king, which our town citizens titled him over sixteen years before his death.I was a princess to him and I am the only person who can take care of his wealth now because my junior brother is still young and my late mother is also late two years ago before the death of my Late father. He left the sum of USD 5,350, 000.00 dollars (Five Million, Three Hundred and Fifty Thousand US Dollars)in a security company.This money was annually paid into my late fathers account from Gold Exploring companies operating in our locality for the compensation of youth and community development in our jurisdiction. I don't know how and what I will do to invest this money somewhere in abroad, so that my father's kindred will not take over what belongs to my father and our family, which they were planning to do without my present because I am a female as stated by our culture in the town.Now, I urgently need your humble assistance to move this money from the security company to your bank account after which i come over to meet with you. and I strongly believe that by the grace of God, you will help me invest this money wisely.I am ready to pay 30% of the total amount to you if you help us in this transaction and another 10% interest of Annual After Income to you, for handling this transaction for us, which you will strongly have absolute control over. If you can handle this project sincerely and also willing to assist me in lifting this fund,i need your picture and your details.Do send it to me before tomorrow morning.This is my home address,From Burkina Faso in West Africa.Home Address: Rue 54 ave. LOUDIN
 
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--YCalInvites=U7mlt1WDPaEuMuZi1M344qwuX1tJ3RJ1248866360-1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 12:03:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A2D23BE87; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vep/LjJ8M7nAw6p2Qef66JF24AWegyTAiPeW60JKAOU=; b=i7Mf1Jigv+WSgnAAPlrrgKLXoizkvx+IkDr0+uqCanIqLBzSy9hIKh7TvLfPc6b5FS mjgmJ8+JNq4S9iyyL4znUZjmkzdnprnKPuzYW1b491n+Gjuxr4gtMFpnA8vVfC+mKc4s ZFlV75EfpabTAAE6K8j6/wxMOqbIQJIT2mK9k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XBA7GDNxpcWM9Gdyg+ueNXp3qwnP6jdYASuQ6k6macP0Vuw9PiEhY7lIr1SbSr9YMN M6fKsixJtNXq5P4qBTWKDDNP1ADyXGHggzQsiv1saYJBr3ACfVX3Fq3gcmGQiDP29WVv lQJ1KDt6s1mY0KLiIVh5IDuJqhxbtHuP0dYi4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090729112008.76640@gmx.net> References: <20090729112008.76640@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:36:49 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907290436y1ca34acflabcb1614208443d4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Audio link two computers in real-time: ethernet? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:03:19 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > What's the best way to link two computers (mac or pc): "Best" depends on the purpose. Some way might work better for a particular application and vice versa. > One would get the original signal via Firewire, add some FX and pass it two the next. > Would this work with Ethernet (what protocol/concept? Rewire?)? Ethernet and Firewire are two different data streaming protocols. You can't send "firewire through ethernet". But by using appropriate software you may stream data, including audio, by both protocols. One example is the application Logic, where you can use ethernet cables to connect loads of Apple computers as a node system, or "super computer" or "cluster network", so all node computers put their CPU muscles at the service of the center machine which you are working on. Another example is Wormhole that just streams audio through ethernet cables. But I think it has to be the gigabit ether net, not the older and slower version that are still to be found in old computer hardware. > What's the best practice here to make this work in real-time Any plain digital format. Like ADAT, optical or coaxial S/PDIF. I had a live rig a couple of years ago connecting two laptops by S/PDIF and I can report it worked perfectly well. Good things is you don't get any extra latency in the signal, since you are not taking that extra AD/DA tour when sending the already digitized signal directly into the other computer's digital input. If you have a computer with a digital port in its hardware (for example an old Apple G5) you can make it work through that port and won't have to keep an extra audio interface for the second machine. In my old two-lappy rig I had one top audio interface with good mic preamps for the first machine and an inexpensive audio interface with only line-in and digital inputs for the second machine. ReWire is a protocol to synchronize transport functions and stream audio between two applications on the same machine, i.e. running under the same operating system. Not a solution to wire up multiple computers. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From kathryn@yahoo.com Wed Jul 29 12:35:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from aleph.ccadet.unam.mx (aleph.ccadet.unam.mx [132.248.36.1]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BC33BE7C; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:34:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by aleph.ccadet.unam.mx (Postfix, from userid 99) id BD1431244521; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:37:48 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on aleph.ccadet.unam.mx X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD autolearn=no version=3.2.4 Received: from correo.ccadet.unam.mx (correo.ccadet.unam.mx [132.248.36.117]) by aleph.ccadet.unam.mx (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD475B6972; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:16:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: by correo.ccadet.unam.mx (Postfix, from userid 48) id 1C3B166E69F; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:34:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 41.217.2.8 (SquirrelMail authenticated user josue.enriquez) by correo.ccadet.unam.mx with HTTP; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:34:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <53367.41.217.2.8.1248410078.squirrel@correo.ccadet.unam.mx> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:34:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Hello Dear. From: "Mrs.Kathryn Hills" Reply-To: hills.kathryn@yahoo.com.hk User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-4.0.1.el5.centos.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; From: Mrs. Kathryn Hills. 24 A Queens Pde, Friern Barnet Rd, London. I am the above named person but now undergoing medical treatment in Israel. I am married to Dr. Philip Hills, who worked with British Railway Commission in Chelsea England, for over a decade before he died on 30th July 2007. We were married for fifteen years without a child. He died after a brief illness that lasted for two weeks. Before his death he made a vow to use his wealth for the down trodden and the less privileged in the society. Since his death I decided not to re-marry or get a child outside my matrimonial home. I have willed and given some of my belonging to immediate and extended family members, as well as a few close friends. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 13:56:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B97C63BE8A; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:56:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=58Afc0JBN1oNXcM+FwHlBPsIyxWLNa5VSBja4UZN48I=; b=DT6KwspGWFT9UdkrWyp5ac1WH6wzvauAW5mk8cOpqAgzUJtXQe+/ipKCJpaw74CZ9d 5+uwn7d1aoM7zV9iKRyxktI6Uj+3UZPoAU1mLSbRPuNy5eVNv7HtvEMOHPoSrYGSl6+1 iMhuMucagoXHTsb69a/5ae1uTzmOMmzzyj/OQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rvpiWN9AsUx2KwbbVoXWyf0+r1G1lmDNNFjsWuz1ILjJ3FJc5ScJPy71ypCXfSAdK2 FB7uT6ArnWv873Buv0QMc3qAfmFDHHQG/kFpjE2OJbgS1xkMbmWJ9yntNa4KrwgSdQ2X k+XVca4MBfqzpEH4a6MnML901CCmXC+/W+D6s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907290436y1ca34acflabcb1614208443d4@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090729112008.76640@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0907290436y1ca34acflabcb1614208443d4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:56:18 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Audio link two computers in real-time: ethernet? From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:56:19 +0000 (UTC) Not sure what would be best, but off the cuff, I'd say easiest (if the computers are close together) is S/PDIF. If all you want to do is pass audio, heck, the line in/out on the sound cards would work too, but you'll get some signal degradation. I'd try S/PDIF first if you have cards with those ports. On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: >> What's the best way to link two computers (mac or pc): > > "Best" depends on the purpose. Some way might work better for a > particular application and vice versa. > >> One would get the original signal via Firewire, add some FX and pass it two the next. >> Would this work with Ethernet (what protocol/concept? Rewire?)? > > Ethernet and Firewire are two different data streaming protocols. You > can't send "firewire through ethernet". But by using appropriate > software you may stream data, including audio, by both protocols. One > example is the application Logic, where you can use ethernet cables to > connect loads of Apple computers as a node system, or "super computer" > or "cluster network", so all node computers put their CPU muscles at > the service of the center machine which you are working on. Another > example is Wormhole that just streams audio through ethernet cables. > But I think it has to be the gigabit ether net, not the older and > slower version that are still to be found in old computer hardware. > >> What's the best practice here to make this work in real-time > > Any plain digital format. Like ADAT, optical or coaxial S/PDIF. I had > a live rig a couple of years ago connecting two laptops by S/PDIF and > I can report it worked perfectly well. Good things is you don't get > any extra latency in the signal, since you are not taking that extra > AD/DA tour when sending the already digitized signal directly into the > other computer's digital input. If you have a computer with a digital > port in its hardware (for example an old Apple G5) you can make it > work through that port and won't have to keep an extra audio interface > for the second machine. In my old two-lappy rig I had one top audio > interface with good mic preamps for the first machine and an > inexpensive audio interface with only line-in and digital inputs for > the second machine. > > ReWire is a protocol to synchronize transport functions and stream > audio between two applications on the same machine, i.e. running under > the same operating system. Not a solution to wire up multiple > computers. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 14:59:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25F1D3BE88; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Jeff Shirkey'" , References: <8A7855E5-B45E-4CB3-ACB8-CD8DC2AFA12D@verizon.net> Subject: RE: OT: Dumble amps Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:59:28 -0700 Message-ID: <06FF62822295479894B07EADFDD45DE3@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <8A7855E5-B45E-4CB3-ACB8-CD8DC2AFA12D@verizon.net> Thread-Index: AcoQWgZ/CxESO7PtSn2YzYjq6E+KMAAAgo+Q Resent-Message-ID: <27ZvDB.A.SMD.WPGcKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Also a bit rich for my blood :) I've played a few two rock amps, the store I work at has had one sitting unsold since the company first got started. It's a Two Rock Opal, its sounds fantastic and is indeed a bargain at $4000!!!!! Add one more zero and you would have a dumble!!!! Yikes!!! I'm thinking a bit more beer budget, "The sound" for under $1000 is more my speed. I've played a couple of steel string singers, they were his most pimped out model. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Shirkey [mailto:jcshirke@verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:21 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Dumble amps Check out (esp.) the Two Rock Custom Clean and/or 10th Anniversary amps, if you're looking at getting a Dumble sound without quite the Dumble price tag. These amps still are anything but cheap, however. Eric Johnson's Dumble Steel String Singer also had amazing tone, imho. His dirty rhythm sound hasn't been quite the same since he stopped using it. I highly recommend destroyallguitars.com if anyone is looking into buying this amp or other boutique gear. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 16:12:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BADD3BE8A; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248883965; bh=w27hUJcd2P83+32wA3UeEYPhKpN9tPkBDwFc5JUwUD8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tCNZQeIHNez6RP8Gvf2BLuD+VyIZIyDvtbZQ5LvZohelxTYAndeG0+eXE7efb6KTQsqOgOu/FqeY345fCZP4yTZdsJz868oYNnXQdjhsp8JJULodfmAvu6wH7kOszj2OqzmJaLB3Erl8GRR9r2i0cxW0+9xKMNvzDBbgOfvpuU8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G0TcDs4rDYu3uGNvsJc1AVXBycKebOZsVUPVe25ljGclVHyzpXZp7j63cYuXZ4RmHeeo1x2YaoTcBMyn/fGjMmBygYckTclnnxMgONb5fGIPyEfnR8ZVI71j2klGmOz2qZ+ZP5Sok1uiWBK1HOE2G1PUUn9bbM9AZp2EGne1VKU=; Message-ID: <324262.64230.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: AjvVdGcVM1nVQOMMZdHQyC9TMeSZ6ZofrexIh6fmM006XEQ_FxKZsF5g X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:12:44 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: End of the Road (for now) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A6FA546.3040808@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-155400264-1248883964=:64230" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:12:46 +0000 (UTC) --0-155400264-1248883964=:64230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Glad the tour worked out, Daryl. =A0 It was a pleasure to re-connect and play (again!)=A0in Toronto! =A0 Ted H. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Daryl Shawn wrote: From: Daryl Shawn Subject: End of the Road (for now) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 6:26 PM With my 41st gig on Sunday, I've finished my summer tour. I'll soon be upda= ting my official diary (which I quickly lost sight of, not two weeks out) w= ith pix and stories. So many Loopfolks helped out, from setting up shows, t= o playing beside me, to hosting my tired bones, to coming out for performan= ces, to showing me the sights of their towns, and I wanted to thank you all= . Hoping I don't miss anyone: Matt Davignon, Ted Killian, Dave Trenkel, Nev= yn Nowhere, Travis Hartnett, Krispen Hartung, Bob Collier, JD Devros, Rev F= ever, Ted Harms, James Bailey, Brian Good, Michael Klobuchar (next time, br= o), Steve Burnett, and of course Jim Goodin. I can't thank each of you enou= gh. Next tour is October, doing the same western loop. hope to see some of you = wonderful folks again. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0ALooking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! =0A=0Ahttp:= //www.flickr.com/gift/ --0-155400264-1248883964=:64230 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Glad the tour worked out, Daryl.
 
It was a pleasure to re-connect and play (again!) in Toronto!
 

Ted H.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog
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From: Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com>Subject: End of the Road (for now)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.= com
Received: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 6:26 PM

With my 41st gig on Sunday, I've finished my summer = tour. I'll soon be updating my official diary (which I quickly lost sight o= f, not two weeks out) with pix and stories. So many Loopfolks helped out, f= rom setting up shows, to playing beside me, to hosting my tired bones, to c= oming out for performances, to showing me the sights of their towns, and I = wanted to thank you all. Hoping I don't miss anyone: Matt Davignon, Ted Kil= lian, Dave Trenkel, Nevyn Nowhere, Travis Hartnett, Krispen Hartung, Bob Co= llier, JD Devros, Rev Fever, Ted Harms, James Bailey, Brian Good, Michael K= lobuchar (next time, bro), Steve Burnett, and of course Jim Goodin. I can't= thank each of you enough.

Next tour is October, doing the same west= ern loop. hope to see some of you wonderful folks again.

Daryl Shawn=
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Optimized for Yahoo!= Get it Now = for Free! --0-155400264-1248883964=:64230-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 16:23:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23C9A3BE87; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QoHtVJfstgbHTwlRfh0v2arh2OF+n1pCr0UB6+Mrn5k=; b=D0ugLRLYLUe1umm862gZL7cvVbRa7fXqCrGqj/Sz6NGaZSOGd7mncrJYvMv8YvzvkB TFfwFxDvt6N91vm2Y5zxXsDL/nwteaj/YK1TgWlr+urUhl+dBLH6eBrbF46FiGsTT0Kv pssOIpBkTm3HY2V5cmSg48V74aeZQqTegv/70= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=W19cVymQGf/hsMdw/EwkS12A2UXN9k0+/NeJEEO92tZCooEbDB+eN9a9RJ0WCouPC1 iL0xh3wRWoaxsDXoOSPDiXFh7OeEChRh6DtKGmhwinvjrVj3p0KEh7r6OA9abb48sySW royF1i9RKONmP8peLJ9B8ESKwh/YgdmV3oZPI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <324262.64230.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4A6FA546.3040808@mhorse.com> <324262.64230.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:23:18 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907290923s671c0789g3a797ef8e84f059d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: End of the Road (for now) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2dj8sB.A.DkG.2dHcKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:23:19 +0000 (UTC) From: Daryl Shawn > 41st gig on Sunday One amazing odyssey, Daryl! Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 16:30:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81F893BE88; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=VccXOZV2IzhP2psaUIb26E5gNUp4GbIPnxLr8Tdr9HA=; b=tUBcg56bOoeC5/MN4xp3loJKI4JWbs4pLa32D0boAZkt+4VaV0d0giydjKrbe1HgZp baN9TawfrWC+Lr0MTHLjvsQsx/2SApQ3s8rJj5EGjinRf65kS6ptILlJ7mGYyWzWRhAa k/5KoTp6om89ow5UHunCo59edPL82EbIq8Gl8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=r0TN42Iiyf89CNNxvWz5JnNsqSgKUxrwfgFgjAqpH6POx99g5G26Y4FytCibWO7cEs Q9h2ee59cy7MvOamiIfU7bD4yw0etsArE1+8PGDSl4NMxha5YkrVPWgsOUTRAF0BsnaK ctPt2C0zrIIGKlc9X+fr3kiOS6BIMXSZM3trY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:21:56 -0700 Message-ID: <1318f21d0907290921q561f7641ua4b6104e04d4f6fa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: artist website functionality/designer reccomendations From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f54658f40dac046fda9529 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:30:15 +0000 (UTC) --001485f54658f40dac046fda9529 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I'm getting my marketing end together, and what's holding me up right now is the lack of a real website. I've registered the domain name, but I need the site built. The one thing I need that is a little complex for your average web designer (but I would expect to be very common on artist web sites) is a means to collect and verify a fan email address, and monitor fan activity. By verify, I mean that the fan should receive an email to the address they supplied, and then they click a link in the email that calls my server back, and in this way the email address is verified. Naturally, I also need a way to maintain and interact with that list of email addresses. Also, I need a "members" section that is accessed by using a validated email address for entry, and I want to record the number of hits per email address, so I know who is the most active on my site. Everything else about my planned site is trivial from a programmatic viewpoint (i.e., news/blog, bio, images, sound samples, schwag store, etc.). Can anyone reccomend a designer who has done this, or point me to some downloadable php or asp widgets, or maybe a hosting service that offers this as part of their framework? Thanks! -George -- http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --001485f54658f40dac046fda9529 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all,
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--001485f54658f40dac046fda9529-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 16:46:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB05F3BE85; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:46:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iB+BdR8l+gxdGWhMKAkI6he+tC6aAx/bDYX+bHmcK6I=; b=cewTqVfw9b9EzSjwtBPBnaLZwcqmdhgQKDP/j/m1lNy58MUMIgiU6tt52LXiqk1iVX R7YhdvUJjDci2s8FmC5vSUt1CdY5wW1nmN9NcSzRtez/k5vqpm8QEno3wuEsQtawqhkl fC2L2VkTZiNownjqaLZ00qJyd69XEfJYxE5HY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lZjzPJ4Cbc4wQVD3jzpJfrYXM7bKH/tghamEuTdDwl8pWdImjkRrmfRzAQsO3SuQCS c51Y1mLlonjxrG2guT5MJMKmE6RZie1lgxD/eZA4ChfuGFA17n0YaJ9vFoHbgbHYReGD yCu/+e/kLyxh7XnSU1E1ONTWvc19KwaRnzheE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1318f21d0907290921q561f7641ua4b6104e04d4f6fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <1318f21d0907290921q561f7641ua4b6104e04d4f6fa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:46:51 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907290946w6508fb70ya815ef81d4158c6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: artist website functionality/designer reccomendations From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:46:52 +0000 (UTC) Hi George, Check out the free Wordpress templates! They support the feature you mention and offers an easy to grasp user interface. You may even be the admin yourself if you have the time for it. I used to work as a web designer some years ago and I designed and programmed this kind of dynamic, script based web site for a company in php. Today all that work, very expensive/well paid back in those days, come for free with a wordpress template. You can add advanced functions by importing plug-ins and there is a huge programmer community that creates such plug-ins for the wordpress system. Needless to say, I use wordpress today for all my own sites. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 6:21 PM, George Ludwig wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm getting my marketing end together, and what's holding me up right now is > the lack of a real website. I've registered the domain name, but I need the > site built. The one thing I need that is a little complex for your average > web designer (but I would expect to be very common on artist web sites) is a > means to collect and verify a fan email address, and monitor fan activity. > > By verify, I mean that the fan should receive an email to the address they > supplied, and then they click a link in the email that calls my server back, > and in this way the email address is verified. Naturally, I also need a way > to maintain and interact with that list of email addresses. > > Also, I need a "members" section that is accessed by using a validated email > address for entry, and I want to record the number of hits per email > address, so I know who is the most active on my site. > > Everything else about my planned site is trivial from a programmatic > viewpoint (i.e., news/blog, bio, images, sound samples, schwag store, etc.). > > Can anyone reccomend a designer who has done this, or point me to some > downloadable php or asp widgets, or maybe a hosting service that offers this > as part of their framework? > > Thanks! > > -George > > -- > > http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 16:54:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C9173BE8A; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2DMrUfKFfhGRikS+UbTZfENkj59qcM3r5E9j7c39mRU=; b=MuPYXt2bD7ukiVDOp1m4xvLO/PtnRmnUNsgl+Iq/S/gtlIFMhcWJ2ccwmNtRrewdlu JmlsGhNINcTiRdAjTrRkqTsMz58vCGJr3ebALMXSHygj3ugk4Lcw0wz+Jl5O82mo3SPZ jebkgI4tBXRMByj8MrwU1qTav8VIBz2//m+I8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=D/4Mk5/ETcYBEcO0+rV0moNfPT9k24xprI5DYyblrWPySJIF5AFJ8y1HSxwO29kRdk gfeISBb7Z5QCY8BtkS9EpTF05GONZ7Ff2Ro3BxyvRJh8lJ7OcDRttnoxcLzZhvI/PpxN dbgex0uErxzwgNRivBXkR5TnKqp+KrmY7v56k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:54:52 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0907290954q29a14d6aj55a31a060d5215f4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Audio link two computers in real-time: ethernet? From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Per said (about using S/PDIF or ADAT to send audio between two computers): > Good things is you don't get any extra latency in the signal, since you are not taking that extra AD/DA tour when sending the already digitized signal directly into the other computer's digital input. That is not correct. The main part of the latency of two computers interfacing are the interfaces' audio buffers (which are usually in the ms range) - the latency of the converters are (at least) one order of magnitude below that. So by using digital interfaces, you're able to reduce your inter-computer latency from e.g. 6.3ms to 6.0ms. (additional reading: http://www.moinlabs.de/e_lat.htm) One reason to do as you describe is that a) you don't do additional converter passes, b) you can sync your entire setup to the most stable interface clock of all. > But I think it has to be the gigabit ether net, not the older and slower version that are still to be found in old computer hardware. There's an issue with ethernet (or rather its implementations on typical workplace computers), and that is that the computers are not able to handle a high-bandwidth ethernet data stream with low latency (sic!). They do perfectly well deal with those stream on average, however, while a constant throughput of even 100MBit/s (aka the older slower version that are still to be found) will create problems. Incidentially, Steinberg uses digital audio interfaces (as you suggested) when spreading system load over different computers, not ethernet. Best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 17:11:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D293C3BEAF; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mX011pcQ5SppCS6SNDFq46Uat/zdFaZNcQKKOjEO6HM=; b=gAts393XcAvg8jaDoGUfjEBaIjFdbCVnm4O4t685KNqnKb1KXPwoH6dLPHSlJxo4/f dKAAuv7Lunt94cXvdp5ImPrKpGxoa1BOs5+OFK/Ce7C6hg+s7YmCzqs39YU9craA54On bwymo9YYKu9UamhJy7mzcCXfbV5AAHz+R2Bnw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=v6KdQyYMnp4yUXr1iCvqGdfOX0xyDQP/B/mw3MxcBTde6lMjIOROihcLH1fdejB2jd WAt9MKNNl324AIWjX3j/rTlBhp2XkU+xdQQ40ZTdD90Px5BaHzaF4Z3vsh3WXzfPdKf3 RYWnRvXNe3AQvQjTHT/K39TxGMhzZHAPe9Jtc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907290946w6508fb70ya815ef81d4158c6@mail.gmail.com> References: <1318f21d0907290921q561f7641ua4b6104e04d4f6fa@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907290946w6508fb70ya815ef81d4158c6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:11:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: artist website functionality/designer reccomendations From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, I think between a wordpress site and facebook you'll be fine. One thing I know for sure is you shouldn't spend a dime on such things but let them grow organically and when you start generating income from your music dedicate a percentage of that to marketing/web. On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi George, > > Check out the free Wordpress templates! They support the feature you > mention and offers an easy to grasp user interface. You may even be > the admin yourself if you have the time for it. > > I used to work as a web designer some years ago and I designed and > programmed this kind of dynamic, script based web site for a company > in php. Today all that work, very expensive/well paid back in those > days, come for free with a wordpress template. You can add advanced > functions by importing plug-ins and there is a huge programmer > community that creates such plug-ins for the wordpress system. > Needless to say, I use wordpress today for all my own sites. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 6:21 PM, George > Ludwig wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm getting my marketing end together, and what's holding me up right now is >> the lack of a real website. I've registered the domain name, but I need the >> site built. The one thing I need that is a little complex for your average >> web designer (but I would expect to be very common on artist web sites) is a >> means to collect and verify a fan email address, and monitor fan activity. >> >> By verify, I mean that the fan should receive an email to the address they >> supplied, and then they click a link in the email that calls my server back, >> and in this way the email address is verified. Naturally, I also need a way >> to maintain and interact with that list of email addresses. >> >> Also, I need a "members" section that is accessed by using a validated email >> address for entry, and I want to record the number of hits per email >> address, so I know who is the most active on my site. >> >> Everything else about my planned site is trivial from a programmatic >> viewpoint (i.e., news/blog, bio, images, sound samples, schwag store, etc.). >> >> Can anyone reccomend a designer who has done this, or point me to some >> downloadable php or asp widgets, or maybe a hosting service that offers this >> as part of their framework? >> >> Thanks! >> >> -George >> >> -- >> >> http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 17:38:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4E4E3BF00; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b30a543b-324a-405d-b15d-0d4fe3091a49_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.208] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: End of the Road (for now) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:38:17 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <324262.64230.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4A6FA546.3040808@mhorse.com> <324262.64230.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2009 17:38:17.0142 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B3BF560:01CA1073] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:38:57 +0000 (UTC) --_b30a543b-324a-405d-b15d-0d4fe3091a49_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Hope to see you again next trip=2C Daryl--It was great seeing a fellow loop= er. Maybe we can set up a show together. Let me know how I can help in Port= land! =20 J.D.Devros deafrose58 =20 =20 =20 =20 Date: Wed=2C 29 Jul 2009 09:12:44 -0700 From: ditchwrestler@yahoo.com Subject: Re: End of the Road (for now) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Glad the tour worked out=2C Daryl. =20 It was a pleasure to re-connect and play (again!) in Toronto! =20 Ted H. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Tue=2C 7/28/09=2C Daryl Shawn wrote: From: Daryl Shawn Subject: End of the Road (for now) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Tuesday=2C July 28=2C 2009=2C 6:26 PM With my 41st gig on Sunday=2C I've finished my summer tour. I'll soon be up= dating my official diary (which I quickly lost sight of=2C not two weeks ou= t) with pix and stories. So many Loopfolks helped out=2C from setting up sh= ows=2C to playing beside me=2C to hosting my tired bones=2C to coming out f= or performances=2C to showing me the sights of their towns=2C and I wanted = to thank you all. Hoping I don't miss anyone: Matt Davignon=2C Ted Killian= =2C Dave Trenkel=2C Nevyn Nowhere=2C Travis Hartnett=2C Krispen Hartung=2C = Bob Collier=2C JD Devros=2C Rev Fever=2C Ted Harms=2C James Bailey=2C Brian= Good=2C Michael Klobuchar (next time=2C bro)=2C Steve Burnett=2C and of co= urse Jim Goodin. I can't thank each of you enough. Next tour is October=2C doing the same western loop. hope to see some of yo= u wonderful folks again. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com Make your browsing faster=2C safer=2C and easier with the new Internet Expl= orer=AE 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free!=20 _________________________________________________________________ Bing=99 brings you maps=2C menus=2C and reviews organized in one place. 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Bing=99 brings= you maps=2C menus=2C and reviews organized in one place. Try it now.= --_b30a543b-324a-405d-b15d-0d4fe3091a49_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 17:48:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 644993BF1B; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:48:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1079 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:48:06 UTC Message-Id: <7BA70B02-5D6F-4704-A5D2-EECC32FF70A2@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1318f21d0907290921q561f7641ua4b6104e04d4f6fa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--1536328 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT: artist website functionality/designer reccomendations Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:30:03 -0700 References: <1318f21d0907290921q561f7641ua4b6104e04d4f6fa@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Server-Quench: 74659ee4-7c65-11de-8e8d-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwdUfTALAxpo UEhAUlNaHgZoCxwE SBwaTBhxdxtCcGB0 YFlgW3JeQ0Q0K0AZ OitXbgUGZmdjYWFR VUBcfk1TdAVPd0oQ bk14B3UIfGQGMi99 TwJjM3VpZWwGeHlZ GV5SJlsEe0tZVhkA FVgLBykuBlFNWCg5 NB06JxYSAUAaLkQ1 N1IlWE4JdBMfEQxR GUxXSDVULFIGQict AQpGXEkYC1Up X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1562/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:48:07 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--1536328 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello george! i used to do double-opt-in via my own site using something called Dadamail. but as my list grew it became important for me to keep the email list away from my domain. now, for ease, i use a service called Fanbridge...and i'm very happy with it. Fanbridge would solve the first part: collect and verify email (as you describe: i.e. double opt-in). and store them by zip code, so you can do targeted campaigns. On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:21 AM, George Ludwig wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm getting my marketing end together, and what's holding me up > right now is the lack of a real website. I've registered the domain > name, but I need the site built. The one thing I need that is a > little complex for your average web designer (but I would expect to > be very common on artist web sites) is a means to collect and verify > a fan email address, and monitor fan activity. > > By verify, I mean that the fan should receive an email to the > address they supplied, and then they click a link in the email that > calls my server back, and in this way the email address is verified. > Naturally, I also need a way to maintain and interact with that list > of email addresses. > > Also, I need a "members" section that is accessed by using a > validated email address for entry, and I want to record the number > of hits per email address, so I know who is the most active on my > site. > > Everything else about my planned site is trivial from a programmatic > viewpoint (i.e., news/blog, bio, images, sound samples, schwag > store, etc.). > > Can anyone reccomend a designer who has done this, or point me to > some downloadable php or asp widgets, or maybe a hosting service > that offers this as part of their framework? > > Thanks! > > -George > > -- > > http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --Apple-Mail-2--1536328 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello = george!

i used to do double-opt-in via my own site = using something called Dadamail. but as my list grew it became = important for me to keep the email list away from my = domain. 
now, for ease, i use a = service called Fanbridge...and i'm very happy with it. =  

Fanbridge would solve the first part: = collect and verify email (as you describe: i.e. double opt-in). and = store them by zip code, so you can do targeted = campaigns.


On Jul 29, = 2009, at 9:21 AM, George Ludwig wrote:

Hi = all,
 
I'm getting my marketing end together, and what's = holding me up right now is the lack of a real website. I've registered = the domain name, but I need the site built. The one thing I need that is = a little complex for your average web designer (but I would expect to be = very common on artist web sites) is a means to collect and verify a fan = email address, and monitor fan activity.
 
By verify, I mean = that the fan should receive an email to the address they supplied, and = then they click a link in the email that calls my server back, and in = this way the email address is verified. Naturally, I also need a way to = maintain and interact with that list of email addresses.
=  
Also, I need a "members" section that is accessed by using a = validated email address for entry, and I want to record the number of = hits per email address, so I know who is the most active on my = site.
 
Everything else about my planned site is trivial = from a programmatic viewpoint (i.e., news/blog, bio, images, sound = samples, schwag store, etc.).
 
Can anyone reccomend a = designer who has done this, or point me to some downloadable php or asp = widgets, or maybe a hosting service that offers this as part of their = framework?
 
Thanks!
 
-George
=

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http://www.myspace.com/g= eorgeludwigmusic

= --Apple-Mail-2--1536328-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 18:18:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 924E23BF5C; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:18:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 330 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:18:19 UTC Message-Id: <7D8FF3B1-5822-4737-9ED6-266196AE2A12@batterycage.com> From: tyler newman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090729135620.74E393BE8F@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-1114989 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT: Notron Latronic - alternatives? Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:14:14 -0700 References: <20090729135620.74E393BE8F@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:18:19 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-1114989 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > hi- > I used to be fascinated by the legendary Notron Latronic (blue, mk2, > never had one...) :( > > So I was wondering: Do you have any suggestions for a good, > affordable (software/hardware) alternative? > - Anyone tried the software emulation? http://www.dspaudio.com/ > - Any features in Logic/Ableton getting the same results? a quick googling turns up this: http://www.dspaudio.com/ does this do the trick? it actually looks kinda interesting... - tyler / informatik - www.nymphomatik.com =================== --Apple-Mail-2-1114989 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi-

I used to be fascinated by the legendary Notron = Latronic (blue, mk2, never had one...) :(

So I was wondering: Do = you have any suggestions for a good, affordable (software/hardware) = alternative?
- Anyone tried the software emulation? http://www.dspaudio.com/
- Any features in = Logic/Ableton getting the same = results?

a quick googling = turns up this:

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does this do the trick? it actually looks kinda = interesting...


- tyler / = informatik

- www.nymphomatik.com

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= --Apple-Mail-2-1114989-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 18:33:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E9303BF78; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 271585076/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4/None/nick@1957.me.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsoBAMUycEo+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAIgnrRX4QRBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,290,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="271585076" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:33:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: anyone coming from the States to the UK? Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4A70A40A.25592.D37AEA@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:33:51 +0000 (UTC) I've arranged a good deal on a boomerang looper, but the import duty, VAT etc is going to add around $120 to the bill, pricing me out of it. I wondered if anyone was coming to the UK in a few months, who could bring it with them (as part of their "equipment") and I could collect in the UK? I'd make it worth your while... Reply privately please! Nick Robinson music site : http://www.nickrobinson.info/music myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 18:46:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B2FE3BF91; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <4D79C40A-E413-42E5-AF57-440A997DB7B4@batterycage.com> From: tyler newman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090729174807.B0EEC3BF20@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-831769 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT: artist website functionality/designer reccomendations Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:09:31 -0700 References: <20090729174807.B0EEC3BF20@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <7L5QU.A.mVF.EkJcKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:46:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-831769 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > hi- > Can anyone reccomend a designer who has done this, or point me to > some downloadable php or asp widgets, or maybe a hosting service > that offers this as part of their framework? > i found wordpress a little too wonky for my taste, but i am kind of a tard when it comes to assembling websites. but, i have had a great deal of success with SquareSpace [http://www.squarespace.com ], who are (from my research) the best of all the "roll your own webpage via template" sites out there. other options you could try are: - yola.com - weebly.com i'm sure there's others, but really i can't say enough good things about squarespace. their support is really awesome. my only negative comment would be that i've been having issues embedding flash music players (which again, speaks more to my inability to deal with webcode than their site). my .02 - tyler / informatik - www.nymphomatik.com =================== --Apple-Mail-1-831769 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi-

Can anyone reccomend a = designer who has done this, or point me to some downloadable php or asp = widgets, or maybe a hosting service that offers this as part of their = framework?
 

i = found wordpress a little too wonky for my taste, but i am kind of a tard = when it comes to assembling websites.

but, i = have had a great deal of success with SquareSpace [http://www.squarespace.com], who = are (from my research) the best of all the "roll your own webpage via = template" sites out there. other options you could try = are:

- yola.com
- = weebly.com

i'm sure there's others, but really = i can't say enough good things about squarespace. their support is = really awesome. my only negative comment would be that i've been having = issues embedding flash music players (which again, speaks more to my = inability to deal with webcode than their = site). 

my .02

- tyler / informatik

- www.nymphomatik.com

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= --Apple-Mail-1-831769-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 18:49:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D333C3BF9D; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=U5c1bZgk4DqrUJWufL/5aYhbomLj+1RlPY/a5kpHwKU=; b=YAaA3kmJX+uAvlA8M31qB4ctRb1mOxs9ppnH2ao/O3lTTCOnpHJh3SKghrRSy77sGh KfPHSFl7GXlzTTWTs3b/dG8b+Z9hWb2nYhNelrmhl39kD4k62CZwkcGGPg0R0j/lcJOc TDZIMOi+o6rh9Rm93+fhoMLcF9hBPVszMNZmY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hBHOes/pI1zI+nZvyQ6cMLsK6vBr7gH88FJ3Za5BXAG6o+Z1P98XXkOfXxaKaan9n+ 1JEiSvmpGR0zpckVc00UGHGz/rq9u1zDJdB0e45k2UhHmZVwXD44QVs9lRHJnFurloXZ tGrYlPnOcmg6+qxYJCRYe1sI37vXC0ESiGAks= Message-ID: <4A7099CC.1030403@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:49:48 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Max/MSP help References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Ricky Graham schrieb: > I'm hoping those of you who use Max might be able to advise me. > > I'm looking for advice on the best filter objects, externals that might > be out there. Which are the most accurate in your own experience? All the filter objects which come with max are clean and ok. I use usually simple biquad~ or cascade~ with a filtergraph~ and its "analog flavor" box checked. These filters do not distort. If you are after a moog filter sound for example, I would just take a vst which emulates your favorite analog distorting filter and load it into a vst~ object... If you need higher order filters, check out the java class from Volker Böhm, which calculates the parameters for cascade~ to simulate a chebychev filter. He also has direct filter externals in his collection to achieve that... (maxobjects.com is a good place to search for externals...) Hope this helps... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 19:05:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60E653BFBF; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:05:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Z+XqyHZnhSyBNSUrTWu0SY7W/JjpKN/icoQD0mfF1Nl33vgyBNrAnOWkno2V8XsVBMjC1K1sD9Juo5UYHMg6Ck7phdhKaPwYHTspnuwQnS8ya3wziQSuOMqXWtGDivYnfHphjg7yrv8ag4iQUXNmLYfK4LvD/9yK0LOK3OtFNIo= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: w4WpmN4VM1nw3zEJTf.SHRXRY5yqoox2SXYyQUYVyBKYM3wPQPW5ofDf91361Pdh2zUsdnFzxXGW7WeyunxikEJmgu5PHb12wneW.LWhuR7re3C03_L.Osvz78iGgef3AT5PjJCsBdNGkRcgf1l2Tw4QnG6aNyWOdBGOmCq6DVM_SArbY14Me4OUH_o_dXNt5jhYacurYVaFSBxZ7JivZsk_TEBTh2E5.qC1DmPXKlTO9QgeJCGM7foTzzBcCnUSMC5vgVpFTZsj2_gH8GwBYA9iW7apfajM8yzrAv47gVBMzYgS2SewGyapFcH5aBN1t9B6vTY4EyohUZ.KrDZRMgKcSSy_17scYKw- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <0B832C7F48A847B2AFB8C4F622A5CD04@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <4A7099CC.1030403@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Max/MSP help Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:05:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:05:27 +0000 (UTC) Stefan, Thanks for your response. I'll look into the java class. Cheers, Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Tiedje" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:49 PM Subject: Re: OT: Max/MSP help > Ricky Graham schrieb: >> I'm hoping those of you who use Max might be able to advise me. >> >> I'm looking for advice on the best filter objects, externals that might >> be out there. Which are the most accurate in your own experience? > > All the filter objects which come with max are clean and ok. I use > usually simple biquad~ or cascade~ with a filtergraph~ and its "analog > flavor" box checked. > > These filters do not distort. If you are after a moog filter sound for > example, I would just take a vst which emulates your favorite analog > distorting filter and load it into a vst~ object... > > If you need higher order filters, check out the java class from Volker > Böhm, which calculates the parameters for cascade~ to simulate a > chebychev filter. He also has direct filter externals in his collection > to achieve that... > (maxobjects.com is a good place to search for externals...) > > Hope this helps... > > Stefan > > -- > Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- > --_____-----------|-----------|-- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()----------TJ Shredder > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.35/2270 - Release Date: 07/29/09 06:12:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 19:08:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF7663BFC8; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 938 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:08:43 UTC Message-Id: <1910E11A-B6A7-4251-A7D5-27C7BF85A7F7@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4D79C40A-E413-42E5-AF57-440A997DB7B4@batterycage.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-33-3440014 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT: artist website functionality/designer reccomendations Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:52:59 -0700 References: <20090729174807.B0EEC3BF20@arsenic.violacea.com> <4D79C40A-E413-42E5-AF57-440A997DB7B4@batterycage.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Server-Quench: 0a6ee3fc-7c71-11de-8e8d-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwdUfTALAxpo UEhAUlNbHgBrCxwA SBwaTBhxdxtCcGB0 YFlgW3JeQ0Q0K0AZ Ow4NdyUGYGBoaWBR VUdfdU1UIQUfKxwT OU14B3QMfGQGMi99 TwJjM3VpZWwGeHlZ GV5SJlsEe0tZVhkA FVgLBykuBlFNWCg5 NB06JxYSAUAaLkQ1 N1IlWE4JdBMfEQxR GUxXSDVULFIGQict AQpGXEkYC3U1 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1562/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:08:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-33-3440014 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit also, Blogger. i use it for part of my site On Jul 29, 2009, at 11:09 AM, tyler newman wrote: >> hi- > >> Can anyone reccomend a designer who has done this, or point me to >> some downloadable php or asp widgets, or maybe a hosting service >> that offers this as part of their framework? >> > > > i found wordpress a little too wonky for my taste, but i am kind of > a tard when it comes to assembling websites. > > but, i have had a great deal of success with SquareSpace [http://www.squarespace.com > ], who are (from my research) the best of all the "roll your own > webpage via template" sites out there. other options you could try > are: > > - yola.com > - weebly.com > > i'm sure there's others, but really i can't say enough good things > about squarespace. their support is really awesome. my only negative > comment would be that i've been having issues embedding flash music > players (which again, speaks more to my inability to deal with > webcode than their site). > > my .02 > > - tyler / informatik > - www.nymphomatik.com > =================== > --Apple-Mail-33-3440014 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable also, Blogger. 
i use = it for part of my site

On Jul 29, 2009, at 11:09 AM, = tyler newman wrote:

hi-

Can anyone reccomend a = designer who has done this, or point me to some downloadable php or asp = widgets, or maybe a hosting service that offers this as part of their = framework?
 

i = found wordpress a little too wonky for my taste, but i am kind of a tard = when it comes to assembling websites.

but, i = have had a great deal of success with SquareSpace [http://www.squarespace.com], who = are (from my research) the best of all the "roll your own webpage via = template" sites out there. other options you could try = are:

- yola.com
- = weebly.com

i'm sure there's others, but really = i can't say enough good things about squarespace. their support is = really awesome. my only negative comment would be that i've been having = issues embedding flash music players (which again, speaks more to my = inability to deal with webcode than their = site). 

my .02

- tyler / = informatik
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= --Apple-Mail-33-3440014-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 19:37:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C151E3BFEF; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:37:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=e0ZAFJEfP2SJarFO+GZ2voYsvak7zKlo6L4uCAo5U/I=; b=YCL8ExKrpPHAX3CCHuRMxPVTqXxZ0AONtfBU3bQsZyaFxUc4aZsxPgbdJBfymlC7Fj X8j3WPOQ3cAfTVpMjgd9/xGjMmXznbnN/a00lEZM3YVUuYSv8QyhmPwpedkoJNCgX3hu d35zxLpoTzc56qW9RHfUL8Qioycu7ImKvL5xI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UuNsiCzzh6bP1YgWa0RlzN4bo8+9V8foyVszbq+3OtXHpx5tyv+0OgS8rWhlh8H7Fz gGURa//GitH3+wG2FV8YxtUd/YgP8W1dphA4eBt3RLWwzKt2z4gLdeF45FgjZ7uRIIUQ 32a5B0aHbJDdo5iqmBJ0xZd/iN7N6VWUnKoS8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1910E11A-B6A7-4251-A7D5-27C7BF85A7F7@zoekeating.com> References: <20090729174807.B0EEC3BF20@arsenic.violacea.com> <4D79C40A-E413-42E5-AF57-440A997DB7B4@batterycage.com> <1910E11A-B6A7-4251-A7D5-27C7BF85A7F7@zoekeating.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:30:29 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: artist website functionality/designer reccomendations From: Michael Billow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f54658488c6d046fdd38ff Resent-Message-ID: <6GKY6B.A.lyG.tTKcKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:37:17 +0000 (UTC) --001485f54658488c6d046fdd38ff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another template site is called "Other Peoples Pixels" specifically geared towards artists. It's what I've been using. www.michaelbillow.com https://otherpeoplespixels.com/home On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Zoe Keating wrote: > also, Blogger. i use it for part of my site > On Jul 29, 2009, at 11:09 AM, tyler newman wrote: > > hi- > > > Can anyone reccomend a designer who has done this, or point me to some > downloadable php or asp widgets, or maybe a hosting service that offers this > as part of their framework? > > > > i found wordpress a little too wonky for my taste, but i am kind of a tard > when it comes to assembling websites. > > but, i have had a great deal of success with SquareSpace [ > http://www.squarespace.com], who are (from my research) the best of all > the "roll your own webpage via template" sites out there. other options you > could try are: > > - yola.com > - weebly.com > > i'm sure there's others, but really i can't say enough good things about > squarespace. their support is really awesome. my only negative comment would > be that i've been having issues embedding flash music players (which again, > speaks more to my inability to deal with webcode than their site). > > my .02 > > - tyler / informatik > - www.nymphomatik.com > =================== > > > --001485f54658488c6d046fdd38ff Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another template site is called "Other Peoples Pixels" specifical= ly geared towards artists. It's what I've been using.

www.michaelbillow.com

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On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Zoe Ke= ating <info@zoe= keating.com> wrote:
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On Jul 29, 2009, at 11:09 AM, tyler newman = wrote:

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i found wordpress a little too wonky for my taste, but i am kind= of a tard when it comes to assembling websites.

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i'm sure there's others, but really = i can't say enough good things about squarespace. their support is real= ly awesome. my only negative comment would be that i've been having iss= ues embedding flash music players (which again, speaks more to my inability= to deal with webcode than their site).=A0

my .02

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--001485f54658488c6d046fdd38ff-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 20:31:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 597913C037; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:31:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uOm80KcbrWthcBI1xN10Pp+wXoxP2fdpd5w4XASYegE=; b=fg1SrxhLwNDk8RRmGfTXLjVTM+zZJ6m+0WDm5epLrNzzSo/8zvJCqyCd+rgfOw3lr5 oCD+DxTTCe1Y9oN6Sv1ACv6sLLX5ojI0XzyO9+lMaEF1/i/g1G43UXMzN+6xUgLB4SEm yrbBFEl+q4PWpwULEaKWVlyZHY8fA5Wvsdk+g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hXCanmOAkcIJ6vL8T03VlMTiYBrbOwOjtR+EYjFxte07k9Jgy1ypriICBQSNOTS16E tuZXSmJn2MTiAeQ8bUwUSl5wzUQ2KF42KMuMhVsfMmfhnRnhDhtnsy9Uhd534YSIMvsi JbIDik7p4rH/7nQtBABGlAGoxqo5u40OHpuoI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A6FA546.3040808@mhorse.com> <324262.64230.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:31:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: End of the Road (for now) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:31:47 +0000 (UTC) i think it's time to consider an european tour, daryl ... 2009/7/29, Jeremy devros : > > > > Hope to see you again next trip, Daryl--It was great seeing a fellow loop= er. > Maybe we can set up a show together. Let me know how I can help in Portla= nd! > > > > J.D.Devros > > deafrose58 > > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:12:44 -0700 > From: ditchwrestler@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: End of the Road (for now) > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > > > > Glad the tour worked out, Daryl. > > It was a pleasure to re-connect and play (again!) in Toronto! > > > Ted H. > Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog > > --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Daryl Shawn wrote: > > > From: Daryl Shawn > Subject: End of the Road (for now) > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Received: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 6:26 PM > > > With my 41st gig on Sunday, I've finished my summer tour. I'll soon be > updating my official diary (which I quickly lost sight of, not two weeks > out) with pix and stories. 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Try i= t > now. > http://www.bing.com/search?q=3Drestaurants&form=3DMLOGEN&publ=3DWLHMTAG&c= rea=3DTXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 21:05:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27F473C05F; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 10281 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:05:47 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=flyloops.com; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=F0L7k5v+iHrIHhV2wSrDY5ttM3eLhHkvRY+rPQWwG8NHMx70ckSe23WLLAvAhGwpBkDcalv/H7SPOHQREz2mns23gzhfRJnm6gOPmlOTayQNX24W4wvbJ1/LMkCs+KGw; Message-ID: <4A709179.30505@flyloops.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:14:17 -0700 From: Aaron Leese User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Audio link two computers in real-time: ethernet? References: <20090729112008.76640@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0907290436y1ca34acflabcb1614208443d4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Actually, I think the newest up and coming (and best, for most applications) solution here is OpenSound Control signals (OSC). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSound_Control This is a recent protocol developed by Berkeley Labs here in San Francisco to address the issues with using MIDI clocks or rewire (that is, latency and inaccuracy in the case of midi clocks). A fair number of programs have adopted this standard (see the list at the bottom of the article) ..... Max/MSP being the largest. Tony K wrote: > Not sure what would be best, but off the cuff, I'd say easiest (if the > computers are close together) is S/PDIF. If all you want to do is > pass audio, heck, the line in/out on the sound cards would work too, > but you'll get some signal degradation. I'd try S/PDIF first if you > have cards with those ports. > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: >> >>> What's the best way to link two computers (mac or pc): >>> >> "Best" depends on the purpose. Some way might work better for a >> particular application and vice versa. >> >> >>> One would get the original signal via Firewire, add some FX and pass it two the next. >>> Would this work with Ethernet (what protocol/concept? Rewire?)? >>> >> Ethernet and Firewire are two different data streaming protocols. You >> can't send "firewire through ethernet". But by using appropriate >> software you may stream data, including audio, by both protocols. One >> example is the application Logic, where you can use ethernet cables to >> connect loads of Apple computers as a node system, or "super computer" >> or "cluster network", so all node computers put their CPU muscles at >> the service of the center machine which you are working on. Another >> example is Wormhole that just streams audio through ethernet cables. >> But I think it has to be the gigabit ether net, not the older and >> slower version that are still to be found in old computer hardware. >> >> >>> What's the best practice here to make this work in real-time >>> >> Any plain digital format. Like ADAT, optical or coaxial S/PDIF. I had >> a live rig a couple of years ago connecting two laptops by S/PDIF and >> I can report it worked perfectly well. Good things is you don't get >> any extra latency in the signal, since you are not taking that extra >> AD/DA tour when sending the already digitized signal directly into the >> other computer's digital input. If you have a computer with a digital >> port in its hardware (for example an old Apple G5) you can make it >> work through that port and won't have to keep an extra audio interface >> for the second machine. In my old two-lappy rig I had one top audio >> interface with good mic preamps for the first machine and an >> inexpensive audio interface with only line-in and digital inputs for >> the second machine. >> >> ReWire is a protocol to synchronize transport functions and stream >> audio between two applications on the same machine, i.e. running under >> the same operating system. Not a solution to wire up multiple >> computers. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> >> >> > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 21:05:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 903CF3C067; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:05:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=flyloops.com; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=yJrs7w6BJaQ0K3Kh5bU9Be32lZpfO8A+lY2S8RQVSca0oSQeiJX73ogVxRD755SsAyONgVl9zEB8GQKB7H+dnYwxO43jLXKZ1bzsEEkXT83m/RpnEwzBZ4dhK4dMjBnZ; Message-ID: <4A70915C.8070604@flyloops.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:13:48 -0700 From: Aaron Leese User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: artist website functionality/designer reccomendations References: <1318f21d0907290921q561f7641ua4b6104e04d4f6fa@mail.gmail.com> <7BA70B02-5D6F-4704-A5D2-EECC32FF70A2@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <7BA70B02-5D6F-4704-A5D2-EECC32FF70A2@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:05:53 +0000 (UTC) Some other good PHP apps are: wordpress - blog drupal - blog with some wiki and other functionality PHPList - for managing mailing lists Zoe Keating wrote: > hello george! > > i used to do double-opt-in via my own site using something called > Dadamail. but as my list grew it became important for me to keep the > email list away from my domain. > now, for ease, i use a service called Fanbridge...and i'm very happy > with it. > > Fanbridge would solve the first part: collect and verify email (as you > describe: i.e. double opt-in). and store them by zip code, so you can > do targeted campaigns. > > > On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:21 AM, George Ludwig wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm getting my marketing end together, and what's holding me up right >> now is the lack of a real website. I've registered the domain name, >> but I need the site built. The one thing I need that is a little >> complex for your average web designer (but I would expect to be very >> common on artist web sites) is a means to collect and verify a fan >> email address, and monitor fan activity. >> >> By verify, I mean that the fan should receive an email to the address >> they supplied, and then they click a link in the email that calls my >> server back, and in this way the email address is verified. >> Naturally, I also need a way to maintain and interact with that list >> of email addresses. >> >> Also, I need a "members" section that is accessed by using a >> validated email address for entry, and I want to record the number of >> hits per email address, so I know who is the most active on my site. >> >> Everything else about my planned site is trivial from a programmatic >> viewpoint (i.e., news/blog, bio, images, sound samples, schwag store, >> etc.). >> >> Can anyone reccomend a designer who has done this, or point me to >> some downloadable php or asp widgets, or maybe a hosting service that >> offers this as part of their framework? >> >> Thanks! >> >> -George >> >> -- >> >> http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 21:47:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9DC53C0A0; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:47:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A70C3D2.2090304@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:49:06 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Audio link two computers in real-time: ethernet? References: <7334ca1b0907290954q29a14d6aj55a31a060d5215f4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0907290954q29a14d6aj55a31a060d5215f4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:47:56 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > Per said (about using S/PDIF or ADAT to send audio between two computers): > >>Good things is you don't get any extra latency in the signal, since you are not taking that extra AD/DA tour when sending the already digitized signal directly into the other computer's digital input. > > > That is not correct. The main part of the latency of two computers > interfacing are the interfaces' audio buffers (which are usually in > the ms range) - the latency of the converters are (at least) one order > of magnitude below that. > So by using digital interfaces, you're able to reduce your > inter-computer latency from e.g. 6.3ms to 6.0ms. > (additional reading: http://www.moinlabs.de/e_lat.htm) > One reason to do as you describe is that a) you don't do additional > converter passes, b) you can sync your entire setup to the most stable > interface clock of all. > > >>But I think it has to be the gigabit ether net, not the older and slower version that are still to be found in old computer hardware. > > > There's an issue with ethernet (or rather its implementations on > typical workplace computers), and that is that the computers are not > able to handle a high-bandwidth ethernet data stream with low latency > (sic!). They do perfectly well deal with those stream on average, > however, while a constant throughput of even 100MBit/s (aka the older > slower version that are still to be found) will create problems. > > Incidentially, Steinberg uses digital audio interfaces (as you > suggested) when spreading system load over different computers, not > ethernet. > > Best, > > Rainer I agree with the above. Haven't tried this myself, but if only older (100Mbit) ethernet interfaces are available, it's possible (and fairly easy) to do ethernet-over-firewire, which might work better. But as said, haven't tried this for audio, nor will I be able to test it in a foreseeable future. Another possible method, if interfaces aren't capable of handling a contineous datastream, might be bundling two interfaces/ethernets, to double the bandwidth. Such bundling is in IT often used to have fault-tolerent connections (if one connection goes down, the other will hopefully still work), but can also be defined to do equal-sharing of bandwidth, which is what I'm talking about. Modern operating systems either have this feature, or it can be added. Again, haven't tried this for audio. Hope I didn't confuse matters with geek talks ;) -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 22:08:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 614BC3C0C0; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:08:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:08:33 +0200 Message-ID: <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcoPv5YuV0SdqcOiR8a0QAC5T32fmwA2Jd0g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.234; VDF: 7.1.5.47) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:08:40 +0000 (UTC) > Would love to hear about other's experiences with binaurals? I know that Georgina Brett used them for outdoors recordings a lot http://www.myspace.com/georginafbrett -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 22:25:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C98B3C0D1; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:25:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LO9sKrEz5s0vyxmcxpOZ9/I3dXI+u6OLtlV0XLZoHLY=; b=fMQvCn506FDBswbgz/lhFc8frtzE1kPEna0rQnBFxE85Qk5ARSty/w/KiFAXblahDG j7ZB23jG6sB3PEY2hHwWia7AFxlU0/zpNwTwkemvu6p2t7r1ytrSmgvx+ZWGc+zGo4oE WHTaho3rA62vFwwJkWVgVMie9WIGl5egOkMGY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kq+v64vHmXYk2naG+KrXQR1sMa9aQpIhtv4E/b4FUuDyf38klfDpYTH+92MjTrpnDG AV/+pBpUZgWBzYur3muVOW5NbmkXTatItKv5gdljdHTTnapw96qgDCTcgmc27uU95Yks uZVqP59FSavArp9C7KXp5rbtEj8yoIgCQdCdA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:25:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_2dN5C.A.bgE.IxMcKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:25:12 +0000 (UTC) i get the CSB from core sound by len moskowitz who modified some cheapo panasonic capsules so that they could handle more pressure... i used it extensively with a minidisc which had a nice built in preamp, but i sold it, and now tried to do the same with the zoom h2 which resulted in noisy recordings since the plugin power preamp is shit. 2009/7/30, Michael Peters : >> Would love to hear about other's experiences with binaurals? > > I know that Georgina Brett used them for outdoors recordings a lot > http://www.myspace.com/georginafbrett > > -Michael > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 23:48:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01DB13C12C; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:48:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A70DFBC.5050909@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:48:12 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: End of the Road (for now) References: <4A6FA546.3040808@mhorse.com> <324262.64230.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:48:19 +0000 (UTC) Ooh, now you've got me thinking, Raul...dangerous! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > i think it's time to consider an european tour, daryl ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jul 29 23:52:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7701B3C132; Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mVdv0gmMGKkLPxWajqMA+AY2mMnNwSXmt6dTrx0EAKI=; b=qnCskt/XBqYnCPBpu+XVNawJvbJgmH8cSROYo5UOH0cmH/xxtKplmbsppE8YxYMfvr AlIHrg3+q9X/HusieQGlS9aGfLg6vvY/N/WunkIMQwNiCv/7/jemfBJ3rppMykgZNiBQ M70Jrs2A2ev6uF5mLNk/vXpgijwy7jrKxZFPk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eGDhgIxRPmhNLy5x0R37+M6GUoM/z49pIP3EIkpWvV2qd5b/VaCKesdIFJRKwdtl3P JxJSkB479IPpoYRXTXvIrKUD1oZ8ILxqiBFTTQpGbNTSx1dNivz+gYclykCkCQbKb9QF lWH8ZqEXO5dkwQ5J2BIQbwDztRNgWA25G1spU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:52:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:52:44 +0000 (UTC) may anybody point me to some europe based net shop where to look for a clean portable stereo electret preamp? i'd like to continue using the core sound binaurals. btw, i came across this diy website about audio preamp circuits. in english. http://www.pardell.es/audio_preamp.HTM 2009/7/30, Raul Bonell : > i get the CSB from core sound by len moskowitz who modified some > cheapo panasonic capsules so that they could handle more pressure... i > used it extensively with a minidisc which had a nice built in preamp, > but i sold it, and now tried to do the same with the zoom h2 which > resulted in noisy recordings since the plugin power preamp is shit. > > 2009/7/30, Michael Peters : >>> Would love to hear about other's experiences with binaurals? >> >> I know that Georgina Brett used them for outdoors recordings a lot >> http://www.myspace.com/georginafbrett >> >> -Michael >> >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 00:14:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68E2B3C14D; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5cBDjHrQYbcLbSHK4+vhUw1gdAiL3C0E4moasgf9Z9I=; b=A2+4+IZ8F+UuChXxA3YX8jQW87yxOpH3T28Fji2kTh3E8NK0nGLBP6IMpqR1r80OHn G8u2JxYiMaVa7V9Sz7cJrpZg5ZMdW4ybZVP9pngLUM5O8pV8CFs7GGrWfc10u9O7Rh39 SbNfXaAqZ9L1UvwI4jwxlenZ1YwlfjXLBVw1g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=W7FncQCeh8zDtFFBZ0iqLuhxx8KO6WaeFEXgkBue6nmA8joob1z8DzeIo7S4AF9aTL 6tqIbEZzsS/LoXWeTnh9fSxsot6sTm/bfcoFgUK54vaiQw+/YXw59x1RF8BWdbJSkA+z ycZ7KGEs20Eoz9tU0IxksR76bFcXR1UQDuSnE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A70915C.8070604@flyloops.com> References: <1318f21d0907290921q561f7641ua4b6104e04d4f6fa@mail.gmail.com> <7BA70B02-5D6F-4704-A5D2-EECC32FF70A2@zoekeating.com> <4A70915C.8070604@flyloops.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:14:56 -0500 Message-ID: <2871c3a90907291714n39b4a03fube0f42ee6e03920b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: artist website functionality/designer reccomendations From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Give Joomla a try, I've had some good results with it in the past. http://www.joomla.org/ Sylvain On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Aaron Leese wrote= : > > > Some other good PHP apps are: > > wordpress - blog > drupal - blog with some wiki and other functionality > PHPList - for managing mailing lists > > > > > Zoe Keating wrote: >> >> hello george! >> >> i used to do double-opt-in via my own site using something called >> Dadamail. but as my list grew it became important for me to keep the ema= il >> list away from my domain. now, for ease, i use a service called >> Fanbridge...and i'm very happy with it. >> Fanbridge would solve the first part: collect and verify email (as you >> describe: i.e. double opt-in). and store them by zip code, so you can do >> targeted campaigns. >> >> >> On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:21 AM, George Ludwig wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> =A0I'm getting my marketing end together, and what's holding me up righ= t >>> now is the lack of a real website. I've registered the domain name, but= I >>> need the site built. The one thing I need that is a little complex for = your >>> average web designer (but I would expect to be very common on artist we= b >>> sites) is a means to collect and verify a fan email address, and monito= r fan >>> activity. >>> =A0By verify, I mean that the fan should receive an email to the addres= s >>> they supplied, and then they click a link in the email that calls my se= rver >>> back, and in this way the email address is verified. Naturally, I also = need >>> a way to maintain and interact with that list of email addresses. >>> =A0Also, I need a "members" section that is accessed by using a validat= ed >>> email address for entry, and I want to record the number of hits per em= ail >>> address, so I know who is the most active on my site. >>> =A0Everything else about my planned site is trivial from a programmatic >>> viewpoint (i.e., news/blog, bio, images, sound samples, schwag store, e= tc.). >>> =A0Can anyone reccomend a designer who has done this, or point me to so= me >>> downloadable php or asp widgets, or maybe a hosting service that offers= this >>> as part of their framework? >>> =A0Thanks! >>> =A0-George >>> >>> -- >>> >>> http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic >> > > From msgrace00000160@msn.com Thu Jul 30 00:18:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 332 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:18:30 UTC Received: from blu0-omc4-s2.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s2.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.141]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E8C3C14C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU121-W24 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s2.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:12:46 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_11186e9b-031e-43e5-9ce9-8075cdbb9c64_" X-Originating-IP: [203.55.231.100] Reply-To: From: mrs grace Subject: Remain blessed in the lord Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:12:46 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2009 00:12:46.0263 (UTC) FILETIME=[77213470:01CA10AA] To: undisclosed-recipients:; --_11186e9b-031e-43e5-9ce9-8075cdbb9c64_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Friend=20 Greetings in the name of God=2CPls let this not sound strange to you for my= only surviving lawyer who would have done this died early this year.i pray= ed and got your email id from your country guestbook. =20 I am Mrs.Grace Evens from London=2CI am 58 years old=2Ci am suffering from = a long time cancer of the lungs which also affected my brain=2Cfrom all ind= ication my conditions is really deteriorating and it is quite obvious that= =2C according to my doctors they have advised me that i may not live for th= e next two months=2Cthis is because the cancer stage has gotten to a very b= ad stage.=20 =20 I was brought up from a motherless babies home was married to my late husba= nd for twenty years without a child=2Cmy husband died in a fatal motor acci= dent Before his death we were true delievers.Since his death I decided not = to re-marry=2CI sold all my inherited belongings and deposited all the sum = of 10million dollars with a First Inland Bank. Presently=2C this money is still with them and the management just wrote me= as the true owner to come forward to receive the money for keeping it so l= ong or rather issue a letter of authorization to somebody to receive it on = my behalf since I can not come over because of my illness or they get it co= nfisticated.=20 =20 Presently=2C I'm with my laptop in a hospital here in Switzerland where I h= ave been undergoing treatment for cancer of the lungs. my doctors have told= me that I have only a few months to live.It is my last wish to see that th= is money is invested to any organisation of your choice and distributed eac= h year among the charity organization=2Cthe poor and the motherless babies = home. =20 I want you as God fearing person=2C to also use this money to fund church= =2Cmosque=2C orphanages and widows=2CI took this decision=2C before i rest = in peace because my time will so on be up. =20 As soon as I receive your reply I shall give you the contact of the First I= nland Bank.I will also issue you a letter of authority that will prove you = as the new beneficiary of my fund. Please assure me that you will act accor= dingly as I stated herein. Contact me on this email address=2C mrsgraceevens@london.ir hope to hear from you soon.=20 NAME: __________SURNAME:__________________SEX: _____ AGE:=20 ______MARITAL: _______________COUNTRY: _______CITY: _________ STATE=20 _______ ZIP CODE: _______CONTACT ADDRESS: ________________________PHONE=20 NO#___________FAX NO#_________________OCCUPATION: ______________POSITION: _____________ Waiting for your reply Mrs.Grace Evens --_11186e9b-031e-43e5-9ce9-8075cdbb9c64_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Friend
Greetings in the name of God=2CPls let this not sou= nd strange to you for my only surviving lawyer who would have done this die= d early this year.i prayed and got your email id from your country guestboo= k.
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I am Mrs.Grace Evens from London=2CI am 58 years old=2Ci = am suffering from a long time cancer of the lungs which also affected my br= ain=2Cfrom all indication my conditions is really deteriorating and it is q= uite obvious that=2C according to my doctors they have advised me that i ma= y not live for the next two months=2Cthis is because the cancer stage has g= otten to a very bad stage.
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I was brought up from a motherle= ss babies home was married to my late husband for twenty years without a ch= ild=2Cmy husband died in a fatal motor accident Before his death we were tr= ue delievers.Since his death I decided not to re-marry=2CI sold all my inhe= rited belongings and deposited all the sum of 10million dollars with a Firs= t Inland Bank.
Presently=2C this money is still with them and the manage= ment just wrote me as the true owner to come forward to receive the money f= or keeping it so long or rather issue a letter of authorization to somebody= to receive it on my behalf since I can not come over because of my illness= or they get it confisticated.
 =3B
Presently=2C I'm with my lap= top in a hospital here in Switzerland where I have been undergoing treatmen= t for cancer of the lungs. my doctors have told me that I have only a few m= onths to live.It is my last wish to see that this money is invested to any = organisation of your choice and distributed each year among the charity org= anization=2Cthe poor and the motherless babies home.
 =3B
I want = you as God fearing person=2C to also use this money to fund church=2Cmosque= =2C orphanages and widows=2CI took this decision=2C before i rest in peace = because my time will so on be up.
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= --_11186e9b-031e-43e5-9ce9-8075cdbb9c64_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 01:10:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8186E3C17E; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:10:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 672 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:10:36 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4A70C3D2.2090304@post.cybercity.dk> References: <7334ca1b0907290954q29a14d6aj55a31a060d5215f4@mail.gmail.com> <4A70C3D2.2090304@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:59:17 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Audio link two computers in real-time: ethernet? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:10:37 +0000 (UTC) At 11:49 PM +0200 7/29/09, van Sinn wrote: > >Another possible method, if interfaces aren't capable of handling a >contineous datastream, might be bundling two interfaces/ethernets, >to double the bandwidth. >Such bundling is in IT often used to have fault-tolerent connections >(if one connection goes down, the other will hopefully still work), >but can also be defined to do equal-sharing of bandwidth, which is >what I'm talking about. Link aggregation (with failover). It's one of the things that the company I used to work for was the market leader in. And, if you've got about $20k for the low end, I'm sure they'll be glad to sell you a box to do that. ;) >Modern operating systems either have this feature, or it can be added. >Again, haven't tried this for audio. I'm suspicious of doing this in the OS. Back when I quit, both Sun and MS had solutions to do these sort of clustering functions, and they were both "sub-par", to be kind. In fact, we had our boxes installed at the "black cage" in Microsoft (a cage in their data center which is surrounded in a black curtain; it's where they install equipment from non-MS vendors, so it can't readily be seen). So Microsoft themselves were actually using our products to load balance, rather than trusting their own software's capabilities. Of course, this was right before Vista was released, so perhaps MS came up with something new. Likewise, dunno about Apple. I'm hoping that some of the Linux geeks got wise and came up with something for that platform. Still, in every case, you're talking about a networking function that's primarily optimized for a redundant protocol which can even deliver packets with data missing or out-of-order (TCP/IP). I'm not sure how bulletproof it would be with a realtime stream. >Hope I didn't confuse matters with geek talks ;) Speaking personally, I still enjoy this stuff. Thanks for the nostalgia trip. :) --m. -- _____ "when you think your dreams are shattered, it's time to dream new dreams" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 01:54:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF7AB3C195; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 146126 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:54:06 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5505ip2/kRdghqqCDg6rYbLt4eALzD7F0AWcrlb7Mws=; b=HidhIYOKzWyUtIWuHzpHcphkeMtSZiIUgPY02bbssaLjKbgMl8GZcGjyeeUnj2GfFC mlqTfBDsXODRyZsa3bxSeX4czSmdnB+TAbcus7qwK/q8si64gCiUSxTy8jC5AdVN2bf1 0T/IEMvbZ+0Rz+7PAxGKCozDwtsr4LA6WyLBY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=pbn3gGWtXpk3jU/uaLCYDTLDW+h8nmQYiGdWaNBXzmNMFpVLgUwWwMYMx5Il+ZstZa TkvKVj0jcBL50zyPU3eLeV3hrBO24DvHPu51XifhDDdo7z+4QxpKMnRZEH8BDC4ESS2g jg8p884kbB5ybPqS8zA/ZmWgbOdfsYW+nST7o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0907290954q29a14d6aj55a31a060d5215f4@mail.gmail.com> <4A70C3D2.2090304@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:54:05 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110907291854n15f6140dr1d6a435fee87b291@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Audio link two computers in real-time: ethernet? From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016369201f02aa2b9046fe2944b Resent-Message-ID: <0_3TDC.A.-IE.-0PcKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:54:06 +0000 (UTC) --0016369201f02aa2b9046fe2944b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So far as I know OSC is only for sending control singal data, hence the name Open Sound *Control*.* * If you are running linux or osx, and using the JACK audio interconnect server, you should be able use either Netjack or Jacktrip to route audio over ethernet and indeed internet. Both come with the inherent latency of the network. Jacktrip can be found here: http://code.google.com/p/jacktrip/ Netjack or Netjack2 are included in Jack, depending on if you install JACK or JACKDMP/JACK2 -michael --0016369201f02aa2b9046fe2944b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So far as I know OSC is only for sending control singal data, hence the nam= e Open Sound Control.

If you are running linux or osx= , and using the JACK audio interconnect server, you should be able use eith= er Netjack or Jacktrip to route audio over ethernet and indeed internet. Bo= th come with the inherent latency of the network.

Jacktrip can be found here: http://code.google.com/p/jacktrip/

Netjack or Netjack2 are i= ncluded in Jack, depending on if you install JACK or JACKDMP/JACK2

-michael
--0016369201f02aa2b9046fe2944b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 01:59:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 459B53C199; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=m8op7uKcH6ATtfWI59wj4Nx4RhJ/y+40JYZUd7198Vw=; b=v8bHIqoDVwwBCG9xTfcDFt2xeDcpxS3q6xSCf0SYOQtQ3CXNlcqgvhpXl/VJjSiY5c Ynl33euAifiOxoxljZAvfVYTzmLdDs1NV79Vs9MOAPY/e3u+qLKM9mJNxAfQPEGEDv1T pobJRDpMGSL0Tmp1j4d5Sx3qeBq0xvsfxCmq4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=oy6JtQgozRZ4xa5GithmHFdTfNJ0P77lJUqhn7j6ORS0WVf3J5rR3AyhcN6U0U/Wqi V9HJP2xTQBCgVwHHpsX5QMbEeiOXZzaK7kN6KYHelT1UPvx1kPMHCu+/QdjzW64BLzf4 opSMCt9g8iUcizuFUphMKsRFELfuNd5X/AadQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2871c3a90907291714n39b4a03fube0f42ee6e03920b@mail.gmail.com> References: <1318f21d0907290921q561f7641ua4b6104e04d4f6fa@mail.gmail.com> <7BA70B02-5D6F-4704-A5D2-EECC32FF70A2@zoekeating.com> <4A70915C.8070604@flyloops.com> <2871c3a90907291714n39b4a03fube0f42ee6e03920b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:59:22 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110907291859u58c81c42ke15437863fede83a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: artist website functionality/designer reccomendations From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644cf0e0c1ee2046fe2a74a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:59:23 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644cf0e0c1ee2046fe2a74a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd also recomend Drupal, though it may be a little heavy if you intend to manage your site yourself. The learning curve is steep, but there is incredible flexibility to Drupal's modular approach, and there are very mature community management and audio management modules available. Contact me off list if you want further info. -michael --0016e644cf0e0c1ee2046fe2a74a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd also recomend Drupal, though it may be a little heavy if you intend= to manage your site yourself. The learning curve is steep, but there is in= credible flexibility to Drupal's modular approach, and there are very m= ature community management and audio management modules available.=A0 Conta= ct me off list if you want further info.

-michael
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 04:22:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78AF63C207; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Steve Lawson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT: artist website functionality/designer reccomendations Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:22:40 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:22:49 +0000 (UTC) My sites are done in Wordpress, and I use Reverbnation for mailing list and street team related stuff. I also used to have a PHPBB forum for discussion that had a street-team only area. Easy enough to set that up. I really like working in Wordpress, and the MASSIVE amount of community development that goes on with it means that there'll almost certainly be a widget for whatever function you need. FWIW, my three wordpress sites are http://www.stevelawson.net - my main site/blog http://www.solobasssteve.com - replaced my forum, more general bloggy stuff, guest posts by lots of people http://www.beyondbasscamp.com - info/blog relating to my monthly bass masterclasses. 3 very different templates for different needs... Steve Where to find me on the web - _______________________ ********************************* *** www.stevelawson.net - shiny new site *** www.stevelawson.net/blog - blog *** www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson *** www.reverbnation.com/stevelawson *** www.twitter.com/solobasssteve *** http://www.youtube.com/user/StevieSteve46 - loads of new video here! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 04:42:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65F863C21B; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aDXYgzGXZwjxQOBwBb7u82h+aPC/ZWVyw+4+Rj0Xz4M=; b=a/e/5b6mpQRqLupDTFidQlcJatL1EwRj133hGjggHUft/TZNkfitB2QQsg+D1oViVY t5KmHmTnBKGETzxBucNwgxx+M5fXhXu2b+y/6+B+v+QGcWd0BXMIwZxrcPq6r989R43z 7S8HsfdEaCSnmCS+LlHQTMb8ek1nfxer44+Mg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WwCAaCAn3dzeX0NG5y6fDizoETf92gNf7VQZph65yaSAP3/VuyJt5LcrdAhqQZaqZn 4jsMzSLd9tcRWKGRztVrxeO79MYiavShiyKVQnXH9cJj8z3YyXZvFYc3lgEg6bNM64lD QLOb85jKJ3rLrEV9OprkaNa6DIzxNOM8f5lRI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:42:48 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110907292142q1cbfe0cn1fd41930a3247719@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e1ee888e735046fe4ef64 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:42:50 +0000 (UTC) --0016368e1ee888e735046fe4ef64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit not a preamp, sorry Raul, but just wanted to say I've been using the Soundman OKM binaurals for a while. They're not as pricey as the Core Sound or Sonic Studio models, but still fairly decent quality if looking for a step up from the diy panasonic or radio shack capsules. The biggest problem I found was actually buying them, as they only seem to be readily available in Europe. http://www.soundman.de/englisch/english.htm I'll try to post some recording examples this weekend, but for now you can check out this recording I made of frog song a couple of years back: http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=24139 -michael --0016368e1ee888e735046fe4ef64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable not a preamp, sorry Raul, but just wanted to say I've been using the So= undman OKM binaurals for a while. They're not as pricey as the Core Sou= nd or Sonic Studio models, but still fairly decent quality if looking for a= step up from the diy panasonic or radio shack capsules. The biggest proble= m I found was actually buying them, as they only seem to be readily availab= le in Europe.

http://www.soun= dman.de/englisch/english.htm

I'll try to post some recording= examples this weekend, but for now you can check out this recording I made= of frog song a couple of years back:
http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=3D24139

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--0016368e1ee888e735046fe4ef64-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 04:55:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 162F73C228; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=V7gxvsAEzqbBtN6TnsHu3nKHtCMAT4d52wo0URSpbh8=; b=d7mSFkXOxRR0tSJY35pwLTmcbOqBnkBmzx1PNCIAuqxE4aZwMzlDPyZ8cprYUPc9J/ t8ztkpbMiKt3eJ+vaXB/gAX1rbiqkKFd0fcoNLefdUtVT9FY0vr9ZwyF94R6ZbjbpRn8 CbxENqw8Kw8Ou1H+RieBKBKFoXfUFnpAhQ488= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OFrweeZjIP7IoqoGbBhG7OBZ+C4v0p6kBbl3KXX8U/FhJSD4lbxnU3UEaJqdvCYCAe K+xAxsftkHPA4xCiPVfpDkCRunOTIKf0G4E92JOLCQdXwh4JP31aoVpND0g7TF3ICQCk OQYzKTtboCl+grqLc4IybGQpKEjzdjrlPrv5Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <339c30110907292142q1cbfe0cn1fd41930a3247719@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <339c30110907292142q1cbfe0cn1fd41930a3247719@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:55:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:55:19 +0000 (UTC) the german online megastore thomann.de sells the okm mics ... the csb, are modified cheapo panasonic capsules by len moskowitz ... i think the more expensive core sound, use dpa... i'd like to find a stereo portable preamp for the csb in europe. 2009/7/30, michael noble : > not a preamp, sorry Raul, but just wanted to say I've been using the > Soundman OKM binaurals for a while. They're not as pricey as the Core Sound > or Sonic Studio models, but still fairly decent quality if looking for a > step up from the diy panasonic or radio shack capsules. The biggest problem > I found was actually buying them, as they only seem to be readily available > in Europe. > > http://www.soundman.de/englisch/english.htm > > I'll try to post some recording examples this weekend, but for now you can > check out this recording I made of frog song a couple of years back: > http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=24139 > > -michael > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 04:57:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB5063C22E; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:57:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7YhSk1HYVHEUUtk25rE51N5veaRc3/Rl9Vl6PMqh+Xs=; b=J38nfTPP7LEDGtOuD/bgLZAGIMZJE3kVzM3NFf+JwNOXZ8C2sT3XK9Dhvu4e0BbBpy LvcD9YQAGKGvACAy1/uHU4hNqMrMn8DtBBdFIPzqCdnubdPBCRYG2hpoFAHqfD3x5Y++ 4PhkCoDg1q4D+rvAdkMIqeKGjkoLXmXk7W+0w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SxKY2xc1POR8qKE7FmsSDaq8wVLE1VEY41BQqMufmVg2USd2sy09VVJ9+IFvLrKncx Pw/VQrF0q8+VUZUyiBD8IRvo008NzJXdDZglLpE2ikb/EJGbMe5EiCLJw8Sm/RnF4YH3 lezOnFnHo46Qg9VvscP6Uf1be/1DhWV/Vcz6c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <339c30110907292142q1cbfe0cn1fd41930a3247719@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:57:44 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110907292157l6bb8bd75o83fd455faed24b99@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e1e7bf8a50c046fe52499 Resent-Message-ID: <-8pbVC.A.wID.RhScKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:57:53 +0000 (UTC) --0016368e1e7bf8a50c046fe52499 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that is where I ended buying mine. Thanks for the reminder... On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > the german online megastore thomann.de sells the okm mics ... the csb, > are modified cheapo panasonic capsules by len moskowitz ... i think > the more expensive core sound, use dpa... i'd like to find a stereo > portable preamp for the csb in europe. > > --0016368e1e7bf8a50c046fe52499 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that is where I ended buying mine. Thanks for the reminder...

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
the german online megastore thomann.de sells the okm mics ... the csb,
are modified cheapo panasonic capsules by len moskowitz ... i think
the more expensive core sound, use dpa... i'd like to find a stereo
portable preamp for the csb in europe.

--0016368e1e7bf8a50c046fe52499-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 05:15:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F6203C230; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:15:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LYF4SNkCZ35CyGvyCdpSxq/oJcpVQ9aEZD5UAuKzp0Q=; b=QjLFbJvsrKgieVo4PP+SHLGy44ELcPSDBZ9a0w58UiJXFT7JtZErDGm7XXicKaYZof yabUlLEBvpzAX8oXAAgRU9jNLsZCc4uktk0XXpXGMOvdpsgYldEFt6J8d/v41U8ipQzy +vGPXu+d9kL03TsClWTPRLfTqhA4bTDDmxNCo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Sy4RmvI1jAup17T8nVcS/GzebDhE3W67ouSy0KjWPnm1CLNS9f0WfMiPXNK8yJ38fZ fS+irn1I2SFlbxWA7Dv7pg1Z4Of1x2FfP0QeB1gk1a+/7qXGbiGMpYSIFZXL39xJtsN3 oU+mNdWsMxVUdGi9jjLblpns6DjON6LeVEZC0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <339c30110907292142q1cbfe0cn1fd41930a3247719@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <339c30110907292142q1cbfe0cn1fd41930a3247719@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:10:18 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0907292210y37462b73oa5ada6e788c594df@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:15:51 +0000 (UTC) That's a nice recording! On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:42 PM, michael noble wrote: > not a preamp, sorry Raul, but just wanted to say I've been using the > Soundman OKM binaurals for a while. They're not as pricey as the Core Sound > or Sonic Studio models, but still fairly decent quality if looking for a > step up from the diy panasonic or radio shack capsules. The biggest problem > I found was actually buying them, as they only seem to be readily available > in Europe. > > http://www.soundman.de/englisch/english.htm > > I'll try to post some recording examples this weekend, but for now you can > check out this recording I made of frog song a couple of years back: > http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=24139 > > -michael > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 05:16:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D16F13C23E; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:16:27 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <7D8FF3B1-5822-4737-9ED6-266196AE2A12@batterycage.com> Message-ID: <20090730051627.219950@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090729135620.74E393BE8F@arsenic.violacea.com> <7D8FF3B1-5822-4737-9ED6-266196AE2A12@batterycage.com> Subject: Re: OT: Notron Latronic - alternatives? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/X5II0EZTXNO1L6cdHbuWTdpOvS0gPbZoqrLMHbq n+ae8MS3m1bX3/rUmr8O+5ujcxDauOOmFh4A== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: mRVJf9cmbmwoU9tpkzZLVOpPUzc4cpHG X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Hi Tyler > > affordable (software/hardware) alternative? > > - Anyone tried the software emulation? http://www.dspaudio.com/ > a quick googling turns up this: > http://www.dspaudio.com/ > does this do the trick? it actually looks kinda interesting... That's what I was asking... ;-) cheers Buzap -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 05:24:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 080D83C247; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:24:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lJChoiXJCQlA2/ajqvs1msF80dMHvSddCBrglgJXvP4=; b=i9a5PGrH2Z879AW6SeH2cUhDIfHh2LSNJC6Lit6tBpgVuNpi9YdLaBkEPd9SQUFwRG Uht9wXjdGpL9ezF7wEMhzwGxZxFt9lZg+1uW66ue8EO8LKIvXld0HXD6C0ktccv7EYPM APakX05ZlpxXhcEWQhkTYUtxNo1LRL6jYp8xE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=kNee520d8mJFiyEtpqnyp0uwVYnhX0Sq/BX1Zb6teNTycmQ2JYxwkbPDQzQc6LeErp +TggMrzhbOf+nr25+79k9aOPPsGI+RyRH4M2NUCwOPlwtuF6ykUK4n+vUxVHfp/ldAAo Zu5AMSpLsY72jXEyGuxl+73ZuhCZsoZQa35oU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0907292210y37462b73oa5ada6e788c594df@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <339c30110907292142q1cbfe0cn1fd41930a3247719@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0907292210y37462b73oa5ada6e788c594df@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:24:07 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110907292224i7db899e2ke870c7268056e6b9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e1ee8448295046fe583a6 Resent-Message-ID: <_doagC.A.W1D.35ScKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:24:07 +0000 (UTC) --0016368e1ee8448295046fe583a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd take the credit, but I think the frogs did most of the work... -michael On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Art Simon wrote: > That's a nice recording! > --0016368e1ee8448295046fe583a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd take the credit, but I think the frogs did most of the work...
<= br>-michael

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:10 = PM, Art Simon <sim= art@gmail.com> wrote:
That's a nice= recording!
--0016368e1ee8448295046fe583a6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 05:29:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BE1A3C242; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:29:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1161 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:29:41 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uJiTgomJSMIMSf2DAh+N00Kxn8DaqzpjOKQbCo3BM+I=; b=mSrwyYO6ZX2KXfleEqzfdPAuRk90Y/VAorQoJh2IrjnHIW9S/rSUDwDNOvFWMD0M+K OjlkjZ5ds4Jl3RLVh9fgwdfTK9zPeAK9Wm29HMyldtl9w6jI1FXXgPVE4QlqGm6o4508 WNGbhMYzTzgG5ronRiDzO0OrbmpEVnbe1cW4M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VoSr1XxNf2fWYbwnj9cE6FbpydkUzi6Dmk8xVlgqqxNU5JW+vbtKS6xsuwpp/VHfuP mLYvDypM3ddVgoSkwwE3gu2bCoF2kfGyLzDXNNEY4Tfnxeh0ouPDh35s+kDA1P29keKs hOFn3haVYqvSF/OJifFu2DdsABeQaGylGZ5D8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:29:41 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0907292229m246711afj3fb0354501ffb29d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:29:42 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, I've got a Zoom H2 and an iRiver ifp-895, but neither have as good preamps as my old Sharp MT190W minidisc recorder. It's funny, but after all these years, minidisc is still viable. On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > i get the CSB from core sound by len moskowitz who modified some > cheapo panasonic capsules so that they could handle more pressure... i > used it extensively with a minidisc which had a nice built in preamp, > but i sold it, and now tried to do the same with the zoom h2 which > resulted in noisy recordings since the plugin power preamp is shit. > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 05:34:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C18D3C245; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:34:50 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907290436y1ca34acflabcb1614208443d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090730053450.219940@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090729112008.76640@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0907290436y1ca34acflabcb1614208443d4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Audio link two computers in real-time: ethernet? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Vz6cnoWAVUwhUqV6yhCkT6ocU5LV8fQlC2bHnsO TbY2OtpV4yI64ddrFnApeFOM9QQMc483bx/A== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: lUUYeacbeWUkV9t9km5nOsAjL0tsZk33 X-FuHaFi: 0.76 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Thanks guys! so, I guess I'll take a look at SPDIF, probably easiest. The idea with ethernet came up when a s.o. mentioned he's using ethernet to connect various computers to handle the CPU power he needs. best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 07:42:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CDBA3C2D9; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:42:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 237919723/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.211.240/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.211.240 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AicBAB/scEpPTtPw/2dsb2JhbAAI0hWEEQWKAw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,293,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="237919723" Message-ID: <4A715283.90007@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:57:55 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:42:41 +0000 (UTC) hi Raul, Yep, it's a pity about the pre-amps on the H2. Actually, the onboard mics don't have that problem, so I wonder where the quality loss comes in. You could always hack a couple of connections into the H2 so that your capsules would connect into the circuit at the point where the Zoom capsules do now. With an external pre-amp, you'd be relying on the quality of the Zoom line-In anyway. If you go the DIY pre-amp route, why not use a dedicated pre-amp chip like SSM2017 (or whatever replaces that these days). Simple circuits on the datasheet for the chip. andy Raul Bonell wrote: > may anybody point me to some europe based net shop where to look for a > clean portable stereo electret preamp? i'd like to continue using the > core sound binaurals. > > btw, i came across this diy website about audio preamp circuits. in english. > > http://www.pardell.es/audio_preamp.HTM > > 2009/7/30, Raul Bonell : >> i get the CSB from core sound by len moskowitz who modified some >> cheapo panasonic capsules so that they could handle more pressure... i >> used it extensively with a minidisc which had a nice built in preamp, >> but i sold it, and now tried to do the same with the zoom h2 which >> resulted in noisy recordings since the plugin power preamp is shit. >> >> 2009/7/30, Michael Peters : >>>> Would love to hear about other's experiences with binaurals? >>> I know that Georgina Brett used them for outdoors recordings a lot >>> http://www.myspace.com/georginafbrett >>> >>> -Michael >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 08:31:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACB543C319; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:31:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eKqOv8QLygCO/b7Gy6JYbdMNh44ZH+wGpYEzWluD4AU=; b=ksm2yr9PysOCGfXHuvkmundPVGoMPL85AfMl8O8EDKLPlTLp5IGFBrBJ538Bw2Ab/c g28mjjFoDTTLz0IJsC1SWaZ36kwJVh2mEO/pOEzPWeVsJ3CWlRIUZ26hkhYRk41wSRgK WBjCePnrkXLmNIP+vbkR5TRCjdYQUEo5mDU0s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Whd5HacCM9G/awC8RatW98TVHiDqvvJU9NkOgYP94dbObJHvwE7PmF7CprJtJTOzte yfzrbeZfHs35IHZmiF/9PnsTg6sKoCwqq95ZyL/8+aVDQJWycbbhI08TKlQPgE/hIqVn wlGF7OYm9VHD28wlgyye7ZQoA5wd6myHxqMak= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0907292229m246711afj3fb0354501ffb29d@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <588ce11d0907292229m246711afj3fb0354501ffb29d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:31:48 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907300131w4c75b6b4he0fe16e47d99bdba@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:31:49 +0000 (UTC) Interesting thread! My main interest for now is not to record acoustic sound with binaural technique but to simulate that 3d listening experience when mixing music. Of course this is just "mixing for head phones" but I think headphones listening is becoming so common now that it might make sense to offer binaural music? As my recent experimentation goes such a mix will not sound bad in any way over a speaker system. I am very excited with the possibility to place sound "above" or "below" as well as moving sound with doppler effects etc. Some of the surround thinking also applies for binaural sound design. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 10:31:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE8673C391; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:31:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1248949918; bh=ljl6b+JfPf+emWiOvLepOGe/xSZxSG+nLkWJW++xn+g=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RhozkcXUTxpymog613ZI8laxGbsv6VYYkwPTxtghS27Jkpp8znQVHUqS7QkxCa+/BnwniU+HUM/ycsPLHlqu9TSEMlV5s63RRQCAZbkZefH/c26PkE9MpGsayWc/wnJGDNMn5Y/v+dk4kzKDl095RyUuC/2LinFL8iJED/voGuI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=z/VEkflj9sLTjNiO3VmRHHgUXFYzvMUVWpV0XzWje6qq1f3rzRHMrfgr8pNPDIyHREiZCTfOEhKn3O6dZndZSp8/GII1l/M0oL+8iXYGYO/Vw1cybFhaU8D97n9zd3zZoBlZJtQV4qnF6GDm+GRzXIayhB8Nd6qnQ2ibivtMSGg=; Message-ID: <647924.3188.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JHNC_GwVM1mPrWOrRMzNlLHmh4IQL4yxhDeBJu8Aj6qEzAISID4TmyMM.PMEBvvGxTrsDx0OJslHK1c_1AuzVaGw4RMqT2AOKWZQoAKPYMtPrRyMhftgGaU9j9tV4GiOqEtWoakMh4Ft9pPXaCV7dY.SZk3h3cZP8IzRHPtAbCLwZ0FxC6BDiSeWBjTIdOmyWK2C9La7yrAdkfbJYu_TwD0mavPE4HVlDQ4WgBT_M4TY1F4V.RplWgJMwCyuhtZ.edLrC9HsiHky_MG_nT2Zzcd.FxpDmBBn_WqOymjxY5dAldPsRJUpt3CXrgxZP5YuacbQvI5iSUUjVG8SgvWJtVY1AaE3 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:31:58 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907300131w4c75b6b4he0fe16e47d99bdba@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-921705381-1248949918=:3188" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:31:59 +0000 (UTC) --0-921705381-1248949918=:3188 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those looking for more info on binaural, field recordings, etc. I'd rec= ommend the phonography list-serv - http://www.phonography.org/contact.htm Some people from LD are on it... Ted H. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0AThe new Internet Explorer=AE 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized= for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internet= explorer/ --0-921705381-1248949918=:3188 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Glad the tour worked out=2C Daryl.
 =3B
It was a pleasure to re-connect and play (again!) =3Bin Toronto!
 =3B

Ted H.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog
<= BR>--- On Tue=2C 7/28/09=2C Daryl Shawn <=3Bhighhorse@mhorse.com>= =3B wrote:

From: Daryl Shawn <=3Bhighhorse@mhorse.= com>=3B
Subject: End of the Road (for now)
To: Loopers-Delight@loop= ers-delight.com
Received: Tuesday=2C July 28=2C 2009=2C 6:26 PM

With my 41st gig on Sunday=2C I've finished my su= mmer tour. I'll soon be updating my official diary (which I quickly lost si= ght of=2C not two weeks out) with pix and stories. So many Loopfolks helped= out=2C from setting up shows=2C to playing beside me=2C to hosting my tire= d bones=2C to coming out for performances=2C to showing me the sights of th= eir towns=2C and I wanted to thank you all. Hoping I don't miss anyone: Mat= t Davignon=2C Ted Killian=2C Dave Trenkel=2C Nevyn Nowhere=2C Travis Hartne= tt=2C Krispen Hartung=2C Bob Collier=2C JD Devros=2C Rev Fever=2C Ted Harms= =2C James Bailey=2C Brian Good=2C Michael Klobuchar (next time=2C bro)=2C S= teve Burnett=2C and of course Jim Goodin. I can't thank each of you enough.=

Next tour is October=2C doing the same western loop. hope to see so= me of you wonderful folks again.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.comwww.chinapaintingmusic.com

For those looking for more info on binaur= al, field recordings, etc. I'd recommend the phonography list-serv - http:/= /www.phonography.org/contact.htm

Some people from LD are on it...

Ted H.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog


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I= nstant message from any web browser! Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the W= eb BETA --0-921705381-1248949918=:3188-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 13:19:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B36B3C478; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:19:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8V4jaRYaojkfRqiH6qC49FaPnuPnlfe1+2cvNer1lxI=; b=AFqHL+5TwWfTzLTYRs1hblA0x1OYmoJ3bKhXPgwvPxXygyCKaQ9buVnxuDByvmTEvR VwqvhmunDDEY6lCnepaOjRWCKctRoOVk8QFsh4rHuQtMBUw/f6cFb272lanspHJFle4N z0rIBkrQ+gDIo73ZCSKW1Hx/MtlD+gSlMYLtg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Rl/JTYkCrkPYF/RV1v4C9E4L06jMQYO1P1w5z0YQTAGM8O68kN+lRdofO3LaLoAi3w GUmMYhRhFNJKSYcwsFScxh6NFH58mwUoT1nYYdI/tDyotSCSE41KoV9kCjSb2WaPNKmM cIClymp9Iat7+wNqTjrMYwlRx9ky6jLDQDwPs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907300131w4c75b6b4he0fe16e47d99bdba@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <588ce11d0907292229m246711afj3fb0354501ffb29d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907300131w4c75b6b4he0fe16e47d99bdba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:19:51 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110907300619k6c4a8de4p6d41d0edc4cbe01c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016369fa251a85634046fec28a4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:19:52 +0000 (UTC) --0016369fa251a85634046fec28a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Per, I was wondering if you've experienced the "hole in the middle" problem when playing binaural recordings back through standard stereo speakers? Maybe I have an especially thick skull or something, but I can definitely notice a lack of spatial dynamics in the center of the stereo field. -michael On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Interesting thread! My main interest for now is not to record acoustic > sound with binaural technique but to simulate that 3d listening > experience when mixing music. Of course this is just "mixing for head > phones" but I think headphones listening is becoming so common now > that it might make sense to offer binaural music? As my recent > experimentation goes such a mix will not sound bad in any way over a > speaker system. I am very excited with the possibility to place sound > "above" or "below" as well as moving sound with doppler effects etc. > Some of the surround thinking also applies for binaural sound design. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --0016369fa251a85634046fec28a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per,

I was wondering if you've experienced the "hole in the= middle" problem when playing binaural recordings back through standar= d stereo speakers? Maybe I have an especially thick skull or something, but= I can definitely notice a lack of spatial dynamics in the center of the st= ereo field.

-michael


On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at = 5:31 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting thread! My main interest for now is not to record acoustic
sound with binaural technique but to simulate that 3d listening
experience when mixing music. Of course this is just "mixing for head<= br> phones" but I think headphones listening is becoming so common now
that it might make sense to offer binaural music? As my recent
experimentation goes such a mix will not sound bad in any way over a
speaker system. I am very excited with the possibility to place sound
"above" or "below" as well as moving sound with doppler= effects etc.
Some of the surround thinking also applies for binaural sound design.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


--0016369fa251a85634046fec28a4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 13:22:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 710A23C484; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jJa18E+VfA5AjFbP2KPiYbdDNXZTN167MaLNTdXl/00=; b=HpyXfsQ/wCJlqPLJHrp/mHfWTcx/8Cz6Uar70867DYyYPae6RLC/XmfREWp241yPC5 swHa/TJJYMClmPl2RffWElGkiq+A0SLIU6v9Rvf4gs2E0O9KnqX6dzK+Jb0sOuGa7E2m aUnZPjTgnfE24OjYiQhi5x9W7a26Y0DQSFJmo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=a6yyIKAHAqr07HlboyzxU9izwqALdOFuT/iwR+NeP37bCzvHvAZVojVR61PTmaCL+v 4WqyzsnGmLXydSecIHWlIMROzfD4Ah+zgPaTNVvGyzUqINGSgSThwH5qi9ch0dLeMcKS 6904d3XPGm6lCQaOM9UYvaONpwQfBFOtth/Qc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <647924.3188.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907300131w4c75b6b4he0fe16e47d99bdba@mail.gmail.com> <647924.3188.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:22:19 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110907300622o2bc130d1lf3ec3acaae96cae7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e647125871fcf2046fec315a Resent-Message-ID: <8iCTtD.A.5uD.N6ZcKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:22:21 +0000 (UTC) --0016e647125871fcf2046fec315a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You beat me to it Ted. There is also a surround sound list that gets very heavy into the technical details of various approaches to true surround. A search for "sursound" should find it. On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:31 PM, ditch wrestler wrote: > > For those looking for more info on binaural, field recordings, etc. I'd > recommend the phonography list-serv - > http://www.phonography.org/contact.htm > > Some people from LD are on it... > > > Ted H. > Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog > > --0016e647125871fcf2046fec315a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You beat me to it Ted. There is also a surround sound list that gets very h= eavy into the technical details of various approaches to true surround. A s= earch for "sursound" should find it.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:31 PM, ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com> wrote:

For those looking for more info on binaural, field recordings, etc. I&#= 39;d recommend the phonography list-serv - http://www.phonography.org/contact.htm=

Some people from LD are on it...


Ted H.
Enemies are good = for self-definition. Werner Herzog

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--0016e647125871fcf2046fec315a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 13:57:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02B9D3C4BC; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:57:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wp2IMZ6TDXrFAtGlhT9qonF5/iqjPdOBLTXbL2Ncn9Q=; b=tcduNHXEcbvEUYibwODGxbxaeEbEH7sVLGYxMa4TJa5wVrGAimUubwiBcjOIdG1Q6o h7rPMp6/hgOVioteviAu5fXyl7gEcQh4Hz+8esSKXvttS7qiKr57RiibdCU5Vs3zNNg/ HADDV/kOnunA5yotobEw0L468+QtN3vDK0iFo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EYIvricuGUr3pmcjw2ORPwecJCO8459oOu4WLBEwfS4eZk9n3ybg5eMfwBIJfBUncW blQuvIrTrgdmsjWQyEj2pfoS0VWOarBp1/RFiwfWs1mfZQcI0WSmmjBmW8UWXXB0vYOi yR7aP8osplyvpkEbl+kHnjtPfnMvkYgU1u1z8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <339c30110907300619k6c4a8de4p6d41d0edc4cbe01c@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <588ce11d0907292229m246711afj3fb0354501ffb29d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907300131w4c75b6b4he0fe16e47d99bdba@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110907300619k6c4a8de4p6d41d0edc4cbe01c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:57:30 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:57:33 +0000 (UTC) 2009/7/30, michael noble : > Per, > > I was wondering if you've experienced the "hole in the middle" problem when > playing binaural recordings back through standard stereo speakers? Maybe I > have an especially thick skull or something, but I can definitely notice a > lack of spatial dynamics in the center of the stereo field. this is a common issue with binaural if played through speakers. but with per's approach you could always "repair" that loss, by maybe, using a mic(s) pointing to where's suposed to be the hole and then mix all signals at a desired level. > -michael > > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> Interesting thread! My main interest for now is not to record acoustic >> sound with binaural technique but to simulate that 3d listening >> experience when mixing music. Of course this is just "mixing for head >> phones" but I think headphones listening is becoming so common now >> that it might make sense to offer binaural music? As my recent >> experimentation goes such a mix will not sound bad in any way over a >> speaker system. I am very excited with the possibility to place sound >> "above" or "below" as well as moving sound with doppler effects etc. >> Some of the surround thinking also applies for binaural sound design. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> >> > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 14:00:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FC8D3C4C6; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:00:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=89CQ01D/HTRVzBTVVTmjLi+u1y8LXXrM+G9zXR4VmLc=; b=vQupnoEV6COUbg9Jtz7B36/5YSl+m5N162fQ2SUcb1m3Qshn9ZDinNbOdjcIf23Wjg sn2oOBmy8qwJ9Q9fldxlzkLxkrVR552ddY/eSmHHyD6K975OnQM0bEmrh7N4TZjLPizk NmTD9Nl9W7o447y09pCf2fRd3sAl48dYW+DHE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=c8Vq2TnL4w6G0Wmksep/oWVhWxPsBQcOSD+byxMAZgCOa7Uf2BRW1DlZqlNCp++9gS sly+tokwQ9yP1RAHvUAgxzFHYlcKku8GTj4k8Mf9dnrHqcBM0PeHglobLiQQY8CYUXZv 4a83PngQS6/ZraWlez6b5ZGkQpuQQVrm2lTjU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <647924.3188.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907300131w4c75b6b4he0fe16e47d99bdba@mail.gmail.com> <647924.3188.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:00:37 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:00:41 +0000 (UTC) 2009/7/30, ditch wrestler : > > For those looking for more info on binaural, field recordings, etc. I'd > recommend the phonography list-serv - http://www.phonography.org/contact.htm thanks for sharing ... -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 14:40:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 166A73C51E; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:40:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=isqiid6kDuYYtqv/1AnnP4t7Zt1K9ZVkO6L7v1tfWd4=; b=Qr8j/kYaxwi8ODYQ+KIkspWqy0QTtZ7fMBysxsjxArkSwmu15k6+QOyEgLqGKIzMis Lsi1UR7IUiEkrBjvRQPLu1Y1tQwC7BnFTH+yItIKiw0IpFHry8F7qeMiwvcmXFshdWox SQvjGJ8+GWB0nUZnlTIoqoE40ZnMiZoLWryu4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=W3UmDXxBhPiAr+MrDRNxDTSVaMkPUvetERXU+IhyaogdZN4xRoXlMXQcyWuGjnn+l3 IREUKHiRJUqY7KNbhy++rJeVEBdrLtfEC4jewbPYBXtcEnCTO+7M8fImURvtjTYVKJAG jHAGFBCAnwCWW934zWgfaXCwJUM2DXTkc8rVY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:40:27 -0700 Message-ID: <1318f21d0907300740p2f45c124w540a80309c6effff@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: artist website functionality/designer reccomendations From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f54658defae7046fed489d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:40:28 +0000 (UTC) --001485f54658defae7046fed489d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow, thanks for all the great suggestions!! Tons of stuff to look through here. This will keep me busy for a while. --001485f54658defae7046fed489d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Wow, thanks for all the great suggestions!! Tons of stuff to look through here. This will keep me busy for a while.

--001485f54658defae7046fed489d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 14:48:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3AD03C535; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 80781 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:48:17 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=j1MFxTpxMWPdjNPHyVT1Bo9EP3M7fbfxTnfiCuiQy/w=; b=x2aIITqLFtAdU6XtYYWjHV5TDJBhG3iss5BdtIOZwTcqFf/8D5qy7iHlkSOGDwe9G3 8WdCa/Lc4+geXwl+19fnTcqfZVr0SmICk+uOuO2jT23UzEPFxE7gOoylrpP8PoBEWnHq p0Wx0K5QSlDv034e7T1RlJJw3COrJhs48PpJQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kNCeQxzYAgNO+AVrcqBjT5xi0z6I9OYE/z3knhk3NT3OfW4dfww80PWHtvtLGckTLP NuOvYcO+pud3g+6ZegmVGFGWgeZIC+2Zka81mypqv1R7YweDATleWs2RLGiNJErGX1og nmoc7CDgKzfC4f5tMEqw0v+YHJShj0qcrNF8s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:48:17 -0700 Message-ID: <1318f21d0907300748u2fa14902me891cfd49edc1c27@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: artist branding...how do you figure out how you want to present yourself? From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644c37ee0383a046fed649a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:48:17 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644c37ee0383a046fed649a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is related to my other post about websites... I've never been a terribly visually-oriented person. but now I need to figure out how I am going to present my self to the world. The starting point is photos. What will I wear? Where will I be? Etc? Taking this to the website, what colors are on the site? What icons are used for navigation? Etc? For me the obvious answer is I need to by myself, but I need to amplify who I am, to be larger than life while still being authentically me. But that's not so easily done! If anyone has gone through some kind of process of personal identification/branding process that they would like to share, I'd love to hear about it. -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --0016e644c37ee0383a046fed649a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I've never been a terribly visually-oriented person. but now I nee= d to figure out how I am going to present my self to the world. The startin= g point is photos. What will I wear? Where will I be? Etc? Taking this to t= he website, what colors are on the site? What icons are used for navigation= ? Etc?
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For me the obvious answer is I need to by myself, but I need to amplif= y who I am, to be larger than life while still being authentically me. But = that's not so easily done!
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http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic
--0016e644c37ee0383a046fed649a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 15:01:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 125D83C541; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cxXoaVn7mIQy8rqy4oxZoygzRa3sfWCmmWKonncRMV0=; b=lHxPGslci5OJ8+f5q2K/ytZfhPynX7Sf9f0kAE2AI2UeDEzt1jaEvKRKykkagORDea zQgo6ptq3hzNvik+duJaGRlDJyW3c4/iTnYbStAOxD2vtSkSHKRkWWMb7kCZLyi0XmZB 2Vi8Md3RpRnsDm5sNsazgw66Mt9dQDfvdjfKY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=v5I/NQ6Rcv4bTHHX/loV5OQxKu+iCe+NfGzokNoWBZsHGifACLDPmizdwg7dxIJtKS bEhEiJ1WurzgSh4lFFXmdZjMZcgSm7l+LzgPBQYFmp3OfM8AY9YDfMj6WK2wUFt7cMlg qsGIbGRGb2+e4OmtbJ5ugNfppw4V5eDinXlGA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1318f21d0907300748u2fa14902me891cfd49edc1c27@mail.gmail.com> References: <1318f21d0907300748u2fa14902me891cfd49edc1c27@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:01:07 -0400 Message-ID: <2871c3a90907300801l4d26e733j8e925c47a08db05a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: artist branding...how do you figure out how you want to present yourself? From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:01:08 +0000 (UTC) George, I can't give you any style advice (other than be yourself, rather than what you think might sell), but as far as colours go, i recommend visiting http://www.colourlovers.com/ and searching either by palette. If you already have one colour you like, you can search for that colour code and find palettes that include it. (or you could also read up on colour theory and take a couple courses on the subject... ) Sylvain On 7/30/09, George Ludwig wrote: > This is related to my other post about websites... > > I've never been a terribly visually-oriented person. but now I need to > figure out how I am going to present my self to the world. The starting > point is photos. What will I wear? Where will I be? Etc? Taking this to the > website, what colors are on the site? What icons are used for navigation? > Etc? > > For me the obvious answer is I need to by myself, but I need to amplify who > I am, to be larger than life while still being authentically me. But that's > not so easily done! > > If anyone has gone through some kind of process of personal > identification/branding process that they would like to share, I'd love to > hear about it. > > -George > > http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 15:07:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B251B3C553; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:07:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+mhgV22AGmYqk/7H20MCxPeFMm8oLwIWGpgxxbvkeA4=; b=W5uACfxnBdfevyXs9g8SfiF1+s68wTRZ4WCDlvf+VL0/QusL5lPFa4a00VGSrfzlve 9EaeNIvNnVMaPFUQt8XcWYucQvQy8UgtXIktA1izFFPyh34p6fgFFMLacRnK2u68eCHc bzrr3M/cbPddeyDG8fwmlT6TM1UelH9s7OBVQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KWrmq8nigbte9gxwdk74hslv4XTWNUmI1W6YNkShZLSZdkNymg29o17uGQNQaqJ7Wf /beqCqUfalCizd6G45iYVJLqN32Ti8ErH9cCGLvYb6F4u1h54brjsT5kKbcbTC2miMFh 3IvKphii2DNDxGYUEg0Ln1dgbYWfWg9sJ61yQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090730051627.219950@gmx.net> References: <20090729135620.74E393BE8F@arsenic.violacea.com> <7D8FF3B1-5822-4737-9ED6-266196AE2A12@batterycage.com> <20090730051627.219950@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:00:59 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Notron Latronic - alternatives? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:07:36 +0000 (UTC) Looks like they have a free demo, why not just try it and see if you like i= t? http://www.dspaudio.com/software/nortron/nortron_download.php Though, I wonder if a lot of the charm was due to the interface. Reaktor's got a lot of cute sequencers but they all suffer from lack of dedicated hardware. (no nortron emulations I could find) Native Instruments is one of the first on the scene to try and bridge the gap with Maschine, but that's just an advanced MPC style of sequencer. Anyway, it's one of the reasons I'm looking at eventually going with a touch screen for my second monitor, but I'm going to wait until Windows 7 comes out with it's native touchscreen support. I have a feeling that a lot of cheaper touchscreen monitors will follow. Someone recommended this too for Windows users: http://www.matryx.be/ On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi Tyler > >> > affordable (software/hardware) alternative? >> > - Anyone tried the software emulation? http://www.dspaudio.com/ >> a quick googling turns up this: >> http://www.dspaudio.com/ >> does this do the trick? it actually looks kinda interesting... > > > That's what I was asking... ;-) > > cheers > Buzap > -- > Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate > f=FCr nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 15:12:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40E2C3C55F; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:12:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hT6S0VtpKyqpF/7SHAJEfmpKUclXGxk81nbxDWpNDSw=; b=qVqQKKe2SDcMheph3IDlcYgEEr29q3yWWKchmy2uwTr4j3uM0nUKXwrzF05U7d9heQ /zdznE4XfA7guZIsfe+EIgv7bhQCKXZzDnPRX/P9GcSbiZBKJ/Ji0W9sshqBtNltJAdL Gzl6i9nAbZYF+2+KGvk5BnCAsJS4jrgeID6aA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JJj+TkCyfDzrM7Q7+WyKv5mAjRzHr6OlHvqMFrfTHB/EVzB499vyis22znacpf+pgj D2CSuo5tiuFnZ3o4IetlQrRiR59Ga5CYarDfsWafkhzTLjlFfv3T195PWtNaDvEkC3xV UjZFNX9Mrc2etLFZ+WhERdTNcjs+nQrAFz3no= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <339c30110907300619k6c4a8de4p6d41d0edc4cbe01c@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <588ce11d0907292229m246711afj3fb0354501ffb29d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907300131w4c75b6b4he0fe16e47d99bdba@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110907300619k6c4a8de4p6d41d0edc4cbe01c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:12:18 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907300812ma8a541du83e2aa659837da82@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-qPoFC.A.gfH.ThbcKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:12:19 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:19 PM, michael noble wrote: > I was wondering if you've experienced the "hole in the middle" problem when > playing binaural recordings back through standard stereo speakers? Maybe I > have an especially thick skull or something, but I can definitely notice a > lack of spatial dynamics in the center of the stereo field. > > -michael That's a good question, but I'm not sure I am the right person to answer it since I don't work with binaural recordings. However, I have done some brief test mixing for binaural listening. This means working with ordinary stereo or mono recordings and applying electronic manipulation that simulates how timing and phase response behave in binaural audio recordings. Given no human or wooden head is exactly similar there is already a huge error margin in acoustic binaural recording so I can't see that digital simulation algorithms should not be as good as binaural acoustic recordings. When working with this method I have definitely experienced a hole-in-the-middle when listening over speakers. Finding a fix for that issue is next on my agenda in learning to produce music for headphones listening. Probably the hole can be fixed by creating a mono bus of the sound and mix it in, but I have not done any testing yet. Got a full schedule here for another week into the future. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 15:36:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EC3A3C57D; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:35:56 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090730153556.49650@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090729135620.74E393BE8F@arsenic.violacea.com> <7D8FF3B1-5822-4737-9ED6-266196AE2A12@batterycage.com> <20090730051627.219950@gmx.net> Subject: Re: OT: Notron Latronic - alternatives? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Ixfdma/RIhbe6O2lDB2CRGeBVykx5UYn7xVpzDe 3CX51oNpBjYBerPADJI3ee+9w12f2DoJIfNw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: 7otEexB7bUk7DZ8oyWknnQtsZ2hlN8qO X-FuHaFi: 0.68 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, I guess you're right, Mark. They all are missing the hardware charm. Touchscreen would be nice, would end up with sth like Lemur eventually. Or you go the midi controller route and take something like TenoriOn, Monome or the new Akai APC 40 controller - and pair it with an intelligent, evolving sequencer. Oh well, it's more sentimentality on my side I guess, no life-or-death decision... Like kind of when I was obsessed with the Casio VL-1. :) best regards Buzap -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 16:37:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 028233C5EB; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XmdWsA8KjSpTWP4bqR63QUkqdXfMJXs/m9u+Z5HXvG4=; b=JihOp2TXRJWnMIJxt8l09M6u176GlanwRs4pMES0J++9tsd4IuYbHReUtwavj3azuE cBK8Pm6k//KpV3cjGwKfiOLQaSQin2APIF1yDPDYVxUcfoCu+O0s5MbhKa0olvufGQ2b UEsMYrE84UXDmXzXPqvhUMOocN03pCNk4mC+Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WDJwH9XIkdiH8+idrRd5O5g8bF3YXR4SE1xYbaG9v54iHHVBl08077ivnJLfsrtCiX j48oiwhk+VUHvzmLmL/lKKtZkaefTZyqmDMHcoEfmaKXH/BopVdVuJrqWyUQMMTcdLf2 slYicbw7bsum3z0mv/7yAwEiPs+mQY9qraGiw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0907300812ma8a541du83e2aa659837da82@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <588ce11d0907292229m246711afj3fb0354501ffb29d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907300131w4c75b6b4he0fe16e47d99bdba@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110907300619k6c4a8de4p6d41d0edc4cbe01c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907300812ma8a541du83e2aa659837da82@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:37:51 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110907300937l57f041b4u124b75f8bc4b4de4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644d53cb68af0046feeec7d Resent-Message-ID: <0PPC6B.A.xMC.fxccKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:37:51 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644d53cb68af0046feeec7d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So correct me if I'm wrong, but you're using more of a virtual spatialization approach with something like HRTF algorithms doing the encoding, right? I'd be keen to have a listen to the results - have you got any examples up somewhere? How are you incorporating looping into this setup? -michael On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > That's a good question, but I'm not sure I am the right person to > answer it since I don't work with binaural recordings. However, I have > done some brief test mixing for binaural listening. This means working > with ordinary stereo or mono recordings and applying electronic > manipulation that simulates how timing and phase response behave in > binaural audio recordings. Given no human or wooden head is exactly > similar there is already a huge error margin in acoustic binaural > recording so I can't see that digital simulation algorithms should not > be as good as binaural acoustic recordings. When working with this > method I have definitely experienced a hole-in-the-middle when > listening over speakers. Finding a fix for that issue is next on my > agenda in learning to produce music for headphones listening. Probably > the hole can be fixed by creating a mono bus of the sound and mix it > in, but I have not done any testing yet. Got a full schedule here for > another week into the future. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- networking practice for sound environments :: http://nowhere.iamnobody.net --0016e644d53cb68af0046feeec7d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So correct me if I'm wrong, but you're using more of a virtual spat= ialization approach with something like HRTF algorithms doing the encoding,= right? I'd be keen to have a listen to the results - have you got any = examples up somewhere?=A0 How are you incorporating looping into this setup= ?

-michael


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at = 12:12 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

That's a good question, but I'm not sure I am the right perso= n to
answer it since I don't work with binaural recordings. However, I have<= br> done some brief test mixing for binaural listening. This means working
with ordinary stereo or mono recordings and applying electronic
manipulation that simulates how timing and phase response behave in
binaural audio recordings. Given no human or wooden head is exactly
similar there is already a huge error margin in acoustic binaural
recording so I can't see that digital simulation algorithms should not<= br> be as good as binaural acoustic recordings. When working with this
method I have definitely experienced a hole-in-the-middle when
listening over speakers. Finding a fix for that issue is next on my
agenda in learning to produce music for headphones listening. Probably
the hole can be fixed by creating a mono bus of the sound and mix it
in, but I have not done any testing yet. Got a full schedule here for
another week into the future.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com




--
networking = practice for sound environments :: http://nowhere.iamnobody.net
--0016e644d53cb68af0046feeec7d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 16:38:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 401D63C5F2; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:38:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Dw64F74xVFANVH8Wn/RIVx2xFB2LJ5l+se9WmnSDYAc=; b=eTI2aDoA5dqN3ix7QFNXI6ZCgyLndqqiDwHy9QgeRNEiQi4/2pcX+bEVEuc6lwrrmA Sfg9aCtGOb4N34gNQE0PqUlqAIWyPdvf+uiO2Ox/lx64xqSJHZvc/L9XvoIKQ/JB6XhM oCgijsHjTyIBJwCNPHGdTKRjS7o7unmqLfXKU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=jbYs0JksKhCmLq3TFe876HtZ5RPIRovHO4n91SGn+BxKD42Xl0QaIRGqxRMJcagQEb LHK7pZKHmBdq6bqVGrv1ndg8hrsy25kNAFZdyX6mUvIreqcwc2bXv00jHmWG62CPa3/S G/UMeX1ycsEXLvrYwChPtrBXgW7xST/d4BpUk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <588ce11d0907292229m246711afj3fb0354501ffb29d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907300131w4c75b6b4he0fe16e47d99bdba@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110907300619k6c4a8de4p6d41d0edc4cbe01c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:38:33 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110907300938g120714c2ldfe1889f5ec5daf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644ddea3f6cba046feeef13 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:38:34 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644ddea3f6cba046feeef13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > 2009/7/30, michael noble : > > Per, > > > > I was wondering if you've experienced the "hole in the middle" problem > when > > playing binaural recordings back through standard stereo speakers? Maybe > I > > have an especially thick skull or something, but I can definitely notice > a > > lack of spatial dynamics in the center of the stereo field. > > this is a common issue with binaural if played through speakers. but > with per's approach you could always "repair" that loss, by maybe, > using a mic(s) pointing to where's suposed to be the hole and then mix > all signals at a desired level. > > Along these lines I've had some interesting results with using a closer range handheld stereo mic in tandem with the binaurals and then mixing down later. My worry though is that this approach will introduce phasing artifacts that may defeat some of the clarity of the binaural approach. Until I can afford a portable preamp for my schoeps, I don't have suitable mono mic, so I guess I'll have to have some fun trying things out to hear what works. --0016e644ddea3f6cba046feeef13 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Raul Bonel= l <raul.bonel= l@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/7/30, michael noble <looplog@g= mail.com>:
> Per,
>
> I was wondering if you've experienced the "hole in the middle= " problem when
> playing binaural recordings back through standard stereo speakers? May= be I
> have an especially thick skull or something, but I can definitely noti= ce a
> lack of spatial dynamics in the center of the stereo field.

this is a common issue with binaural if played through speakers. but<= br> with per's approach you could always "repair" that loss, by m= aybe,
using a mic(s) pointing to where's suposed to be the hole and then mix<= br> all signals at a desired level.


Along these lines I'v= e had some interesting results with using a closer range handheld stereo mi= c in tandem with the binaurals and then mixing down later.=A0 My worry thou= gh is that this approach will introduce phasing artifacts that may defeat s= ome of the clarity of the binaural approach. Until I can afford a portable = preamp for my schoeps, I don't have suitable mono mic, so I guess I'= ;ll have to have some fun trying things out to hear what works.
--0016e644ddea3f6cba046feeef13-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 17:19:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93F183C62E; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:19:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ibvUwavdIx+Dr7k1zR2gejEBB7RRUOghgSgCEWMyQKI=; b=hQl/E7H1toFIHNzhRlA3PmofduQEjX0Q+qyNtgr0hrqu2g75viOG/SWFnqikVXOMDw t1zEzh5fL35q0M52ZH3nfRZM8/WSEeRVX/+A1BzaCej491ymL0uEY5sEjEVFmqb1wrBq UEF2YIGkdtU88UQUoflOJ24Gp9mPT2oAnPGVc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lllB4yLNTQpNfE9QNGk6i5YSQjYfIruWRnBHhW40G/JvoDOl6pjx7jcKATqngBpz+0 nPl7pdqMuan7CyCtRVZupXFG61SWBsFBN5eHDn8pFy2E+iMXmcrBRnQx8IeuMzbUcm32 NvjwInPtkOzTWAMBEnICXUXY353jPRc7uM2ns= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <339c30110907300938g120714c2ldfe1889f5ec5daf@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <588ce11d0907292229m246711afj3fb0354501ffb29d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907300131w4c75b6b4he0fe16e47d99bdba@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110907300619k6c4a8de4p6d41d0edc4cbe01c@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110907300938g120714c2ldfe1889f5ec5daf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:19:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0yYuCD.A.toD.MYdcKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:19:08 +0000 (UTC) maybe is safer to add the mono/center track ITB as per's suggesting. at least, you'll have the regular DAW tools to fight the phasing issues. schoeps!! ... wow. 2009/7/30, michael noble : > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > >> 2009/7/30, michael noble : >> > Per, >> > >> > I was wondering if you've experienced the "hole in the middle" problem >> when >> > playing binaural recordings back through standard stereo speakers? Maybe >> I >> > have an especially thick skull or something, but I can definitely notice >> a >> > lack of spatial dynamics in the center of the stereo field. >> >> this is a common issue with binaural if played through speakers. but >> with per's approach you could always "repair" that loss, by maybe, >> using a mic(s) pointing to where's suposed to be the hole and then mix >> all signals at a desired level. >> >> > Along these lines I've had some interesting results with using a closer > range handheld stereo mic in tandem with the binaurals and then mixing down > later. My worry though is that this approach will introduce phasing > artifacts that may defeat some of the clarity of the binaural approach. > Until I can afford a portable preamp for my schoeps, I don't have suitable > mono mic, so I guess I'll have to have some fun trying things out to hear > what works. > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 17:29:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 170263C63F; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=w4SzWSEheCxt+D2INyTeQe8/Cnv7+/Ii4NrHUKaUJyM=; b=JZJ3mgPxQOTrUs9NxdnMnxryvgBzJQVGDgXYijr3HHar4LaOuMgFxBgN+LqhPY9xMw C+rWCizWJGLjiKYDuedA0LhYXPvrg88aqbRxwJ+xleyHzDdIHhNh5CQ8Qp3PtCPBzwq/ 0HrwXKiOoYDOR+VggPxdIc/77KvYPs6OTNHFg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jKxP5fnQmhSRnNMeK2e5wQB9WjE/Pm7M8vOT8IxWXBwChrD+qL/N3Dm+17a/D3PPCg T9nN/tlWL0HIrLrXj62dr9KGeXr23hHXayCOdV6U46vgp9/rRQ6C3etwWxc1OSiecRlm IGHq3iZw7nyJSgvJd10Nkf7i8Mks98PteJqtY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <339c30110907300937l57f041b4u124b75f8bc4b4de4@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <588ce11d0907292229m246711afj3fb0354501ffb29d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907300131w4c75b6b4he0fe16e47d99bdba@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110907300619k6c4a8de4p6d41d0edc4cbe01c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0907300812ma8a541du83e2aa659837da82@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110907300937l57f041b4u124b75f8bc4b4de4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:29:12 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0907301029y47d3c0f1rc3ebfaed936d4208@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:29:12 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:37 PM, michael noble wrote: > So correct me if I'm wrong, but you're using more of a virtual > spatialization approach with something like HRTF algorithms doing the > encoding, right? Yes, that's it. > I'd be keen to have a listen to the results - have you got > any examples up somewhere? Only researching it so far. Any finished work with this technique is still far ahead. Will post if doing a pilot though. > How are you incorporating looping into this > setup? Not at all. I can't imagine an audience being offered one set of headphones per capita. ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 17:59:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C4B33C666; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:59:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:59:07 UTC Message-ID: <19388.72.22.1248976345.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:52:25 -0400 (AST) Subject: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:59:07 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'm a little late to the party, but really enjoyed the posts. So much interesting material here. I'm always on the look out for fresh sounds. I've been working on a pop project lately, so most of my listening has been in this realm. Here's what I've been digging. Jack Conte - Love his free spirit and adventures with sound and video. http://www.youtube.com/user/jackcontemusic Radio Darvish Persian Traditional Music - Got this from Derek at CDBabay http://www.radiodarvish.com/Radio_Darvish/Home.html Knaan - Hip Hop with some African Flavours http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB5RTkyN43s&feature=fvsr Radiohead - In Rainbows - All I Need http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY4APDrl66s Emiliana Torrini - "Me and Armini" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS9CB0LU_0c Bassekou Kouyate & Ngoni ba - ngoni wizards from Mali. I got to see them play live earlier this year. Incredible!! http://www.myspace.com/bassekoukouyate Hey Rick, I'm digging the Nik Bärtsch. Peace, Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa Andre Donawa Barbados Guitar School Woodside Gardens Bay St. St. Michael Barbados 11157 Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) 246 436 8294 (School) http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 18:04:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 184E53C672; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <19388.72.22.1248976345.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:04:17 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.139 In-Reply-To: <19388.72.22.1248976345.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: pjbmhb@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CBDF574A0F8480_910_1C3F_webmail-de11.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CBDF574A0D2224-910-DE5@webmail-de11.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:04:49 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CBDF574A0F8480_910_1C3F_webmail-de11.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Jon Hassell - Last night the moon came... Wilco - the album Buddy and Julie Miller - Written in Chalk All Great Stuff worthy of buying and hearing! =3D-) PJ -----Original Message----- From: Andr=C3=A9 Donawa To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 1:52 pm Subject: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable Hi, I'm a little late to the party, but really enjoyed the posts. o much interesting material here. 'm always on the look out for fresh sounds. I've been working on a pop project lately, so most of my listening has een in this realm. Here's what I've been digging. Jack Conte - Love his free spirit and adventures with sound and video. http://www.youtube.com/user/jackcontemusic Radio Darvish Persian Traditional Music - Got this from Derek at CDBabay http://www.radiodarvish.com/Radio_Darvish/Home.html Knaan - Hip Hop with some African Flavours http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtB5RTkyN43s&feature=3Dfvsr Radiohead - In Rainbows - All I Need http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiY4APDrl66s Emiliana Torrini - "Me and Armini" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiS9CB0LU_0c Bassekou Kouyate & Ngoni ba - ngoni wizards from Mali. I got to see them lay live earlier this year. Incredible!! http://www.myspace.com/bassekoukouyate ey Rick, I'm digging the Nik B=C3=A4rtsch. Peace, Andre http://www.andredonawa.com ttp://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa ttp://www.myspace.com/andr edonawa ndre Donawa arbados Guitar School oodside Gardens ay St. t. Michael arbados 11157 el: 246-228-2480 (Office) 246 436 8294 (School) http://www.barbadosguitar.com ttp://www.andredonawa.com ttp://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa ttp://www.myspace.com/andredonawa ----------MB_8CBDF574A0F8480_910_1C3F_webmail-de11.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Jon Hassell -= Last night the moon came...
Wilco - the album
Buddy and Julie Miller - Written in Chalk

All Great Stuff worthy of buying and hearing!
=3D-) PJ



-----Original Message-----
From: Andr=C3=A9 Donawa <andre@andredonawa.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 1:52 pm
Subject: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable

Hi,

I'm a little late to the party, but really enjoyed the posts.
So much interesting material here.
I'm always on the look out for fresh sounds.

I've been working on a pop project lately, so most of my listening has
been in this realm.

Here's what I've been digging.

Jack Conte - Love his free spirit and adventures with sound and video.
             http://www.youtube.com/user/jackcontemusic

Radio Darvish Persian Traditional Music - Got this from Derek at CDBabay
             http://www.radiodarvish.com/Radio_Darvish/Home.html

Knaan - Hip Hop with some African Flavours
             http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtB5RTkyN=
43s&feature=3Dfvsr

Radiohead - In Rainbows - All I Need
             http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiY4APDrl66s

Emiliana Torrini - "Me and Armini"
             http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiS9CB0LU_0c

Bassekou Kouyate & Ngoni ba - ngoni wizards from Mali. I got to see th=
em
play live earlier this year. Incredible!!
             http://www.myspace.com/bassekoukouyate


Hey Rick, I'm digging the Nik B=C3=A4rtsch.

Peace,

Andre





http://www.andredo=
nawa.com
http://cdbab=
y.com/all/andredonawa
http://www.=
myspace.com/andredonawa


Andre Donawa
Barbados Guitar School
Woodside Gardens
Bay St.
St. Michael
Barbados
 11157
Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office)
     246 436 8294 (School)

http://www.barb=
adosguitar.com
http://www.andredo=
nawa.com
http://cdbab=
y.com/all/andredonawa
http://www.=
myspace.com/andredonawa
----------MB_8CBDF574A0F8480_910_1C3F_webmail-de11.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 18:09:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F7A93C681; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:09:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 11295 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:09:17 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QTGDXLe7ld3Ed0lSIdZIo2t4L6SZDkQiw7HHGH1Rb/Y=; b=fHNSzxxo1WSv8ukL1c1Z6eWDaI0/+Vtznbo/yvgbeytv8dlbcCWgRMehxV7uoKZQ4u hcuFOSfJM1p0n51rn1Po+63QnrCTJ+3k5a1XzRI2edVe/S+CkvNS8K9e1ti7BAnzHG1x tJDJPIl8SEPRtlCdTTnvIDk1lk95YDtCrmXW8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=M40recDyhCxqRmRIGdu9ERmeSqnoy3SrcRVrTwb5E3Ycj3py0HLyDniFZpVigOPpzX oRG4alONXK0t6zDgBHU8MxPhOYGQZ9Dm39XjhVTY49tTl/c4sk4770QqYE4rc8AbrmNh hOg9mo44TVAw4gTnpcZ6/ln5uazbekqqRFCts= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090730153556.49650@gmx.net> References: <20090729135620.74E393BE8F@arsenic.violacea.com> <7D8FF3B1-5822-4737-9ED6-266196AE2A12@batterycage.com> <20090730051627.219950@gmx.net> <20090730153556.49650@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:09:16 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Notron Latronic - alternatives? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:09:17 +0000 (UTC) Heh, yeah, I've had a few of those myself where all of the sudden I'm obsessed with some arcane device. The thing that would bother me about the software version of the Nortron is while it hosts VSTs it is not one itself. I think something like this would be fun to run right inside Live. I don't think the APC40 will operate like a Monome or Tenor-on. All those buttons seem to be dedicated to the launching/recording/playing of clips. Cool as a sequencer application in itself, but not a grid or x0x style of note input. I'd check out a download of Reaktor if you don't have it. There are a ton of cool sequencers for it that might help distract you from your current obsession! Good luck. On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Yeah, I guess you're right, Mark. > They all are missing the hardware charm. > Touchscreen would be nice, would end up with sth like Lemur eventually. > Or you go the midi controller route and take something like TenoriOn, Mon= ome or the new Akai APC 40 controller - and pair it with an intelligent, ev= olving sequencer. > > Oh well, it's more sentimentality on my side I guess, no life-or-death de= cision... =A0Like kind of when I was obsessed with the Casio VL-1. :) > > best regards > Buzap > > -- > Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 = - > sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser > > From office@walmart.com Thu Jul 30 18:44:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3855 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:44:35 UTC Received: from bluebell.tbt.com.tr (bluebell.tbt.com.tr [91.191.160.11]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF433C66B for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24120 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2009 20:19:29 +0300 Received: from dsl-sp-81-140-1-139.in-addr.broadbandscope.com (HELO User) (81.140.1.139) by 91-191-160-19.tbt.com.tr with SMTP; 30 Jul 2009 20:19:28 +0300 From: "Wal-Mart Stores, Inc." Subject: Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. Notification Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:19:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20090730184435.0FF433C66B@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
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 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 18:54:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 867D63C6D2; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:54:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <4E5264FA-2D47-4792-A539-F41E0595FEE9@glasswing.com> From: richard sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8CBDF574A0D2224-910-DE5@webmail-de11.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-89957681 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: something cool to look at Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:54:57 -0700 References: <19388.72.22.1248976345.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <8CBDF574A0D2224-910-DE5@webmail-de11.sysops.aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <_lBzgD.A.2_G.DyecKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:54:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-89957681 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit my ancient friend and recurring music collaborator Jay Yarnall has posted some vids and music you might like. Check it out! http://www.wireonfire.com/jayyarnall/newmedia.html richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com --Apple-Mail-4-89957681 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable my ancient friend and recurring = music collaborator Jay Yarnall has posted some vids and music you might = like.  Check it out!


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= --Apple-Mail-4-89957681-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 21:14:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0EAF3C7BA; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A720D06.3010703@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:13:42 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Tonight on Galactic Travels Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:14:21 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on Jeffrey Koepper. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Radiate" on the Ricochet Dream label. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#jul Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 22:36:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F16A3C847; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zb4ETM8ia9MKbQRTQWagYT11oykMgdtMC6+MLanFFPg=; b=fdqDJdDEDyqsL3JToinFgFAq2tYxuK8S+WLac9aj+Zh0VisXwxpSURP2eIyET3lacn u0mstm5c/dO7IOPztRa6hDyE9mCq7YKIEt1qCjZ0QeI4UFHsVjw4Wt+xcGgTPcxa5rWU jSS9nrFY1gkMS5WMfd6stcvPSEjQ700Ig4R9M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QJC6GiUoVXhauBJLr51PuQSRkMbP575MRWFl1D+4oah9Ir6J8nXMlT7yAlE51rKWxa Hy5hsTzfNhPq8Llf0gcenuAwa7CYxmlXPjfBP/ohkxaMYKcQSW/I7nXKdhnvtjqzXW96 Aa/QD7YJStzwROXBZRxPI9gmHBSFrbtrGoqmM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A715283.90007@tiscali.co.uk> References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A715283.90007@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:36:33 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio (was: toys for non-musicians) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:36:36 +0000 (UTC) 2009/7/30, andy butler : > hi Raul, > Yep, it's a pity about the pre-amps on the H2. > Actually, the onboard mics don't have that problem, > so I wonder where the quality loss comes in. that's why i stopped using the binaural electrets, which i prefered for ambient recordings against the option of using all 4 mics from the h2. > You could always hack a couple of connections into the H2 > so that your capsules would connect into the circuit > at the point where the Zoom capsules do now. i've checked several sites dealing with this hack and it looks like the route to go, certainly. > With an external pre-amp, you'd be relying on the quality > of the Zoom line-In anyway. although noisy, i think it's a different story from the plugin power socket, which is a joke. > If you go the DIY pre-amp route, why not use a dedicated > pre-amp chip like SSM2017 (or whatever replaces that these days). > Simple circuits on the datasheet for the chip. electronics nerd here. do you mean replacing the preamp chip that drives the actual plugin power input on the h2 by the SSM2017?. i've found this site in the u.k., but they seem to sold all their preamps out! although a new model is on the owen.... http://www.felmicamps.co.uk/products/felbattpreamp.html > andy > > Raul Bonell wrote: >> may anybody point me to some europe based net shop where to look for a >> clean portable stereo electret preamp? i'd like to continue using the >> core sound binaurals. >> >> btw, i came across this diy website about audio preamp circuits. in >> english. >> >> http://www.pardell.es/audio_preamp.HTM >> >> 2009/7/30, Raul Bonell : >>> i get the CSB from core sound by len moskowitz who modified some >>> cheapo panasonic capsules so that they could handle more pressure... i >>> used it extensively with a minidisc which had a nice built in preamp, >>> but i sold it, and now tried to do the same with the zoom h2 which >>> resulted in noisy recordings since the plugin power preamp is shit. >>> >>> 2009/7/30, Michael Peters : >>>>> Would love to hear about other's experiences with binaurals? >>>> I know that Georgina Brett used them for outdoors recordings a lot >>>> http://www.myspace.com/georginafbrett >>>> >>>> -Michael >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >>> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >>> >> >> > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 22:46:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B8FD3C852; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZWmVxnoTEWF03Zqzx28bZpHLH5DRP5G79Qc/6+vR5Bc=; b=T3VylEDovdRMyvMH8AVU5QCcF6ZyuDvyx2gpcTRBa5cFoI9SDe8LH5tEDBNmHr9hiS dX41ZAyp0bzGzt5PVOFaP11nzA8sXhmD83/F7IYep0HJhQ8Z3sv936eABTsg9BlNERm4 oXXzJAergActnIx2hPlWV89eLrJmqGgBX3134= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JWNztXB0IveszD/EqOzcA3Ki3c5YEfbbtTIjNgdXpLIEgsiqEdG/jV2SeZEh4eVrq6 ZmcdA9RXGTLSsP6KQL/idZzcb4owX9G5VmjfYgTm1FCI7PgR2Xvnhs39hLJteKeSBOks 5zdPbDly2Km0XhzevKtmLmA+h7Lb61uozEpjI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <866A1DFC50DF404C9BE1DEE9BDC178B2@williamsteed> References: <866A1DFC50DF404C9BE1DEE9BDC178B2@williamsteed> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:46:11 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Dumble amps From: Travis Hartnett To: LD Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c9356a036276046ff412f1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:46:12 +0000 (UTC) --001636c9356a036276046ff412f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I recall reading that when Robben Ford toured Europe and didn't want to bring his Dumble, he'd use a Tube Screamer into a BF Twin Reverb. A few years ago, someone took apart a Dumble, melted the goop on the "secret component", and described the circuit as...a Tube Screamer inside a Twin Reverb. So, consider saving $49K and going that route. While all the usual famous Dumble users always sound great, they sound grea= t through anything they've used, and I've never heard a Dumble recording and thought ZOMG!!! That's THE Tone!!! And I've heard a few live, and at close quarters, and so if you have $50k, go for it! Otherwise... TH On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:14 PM, William Walker wro= te: > I know this is a bit off topic but I thought some of you analog heads an= d > guitar tone freaks might get a kick out of this. > > As you may know, Alexander (don=92t call me Howard) Dumble is a legendary > custom builder of guitar amps that now because of there rarity and celebr= ity > connections (Robben Ford, Larry Carlton, and more recently, Carlos Santan= a > to name a few) fetch ridiculous amounts of money. > --001636c9356a036276046ff412f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I recall reading that when Robben Ford toured Europe and didn't want to= bring his Dumble, he'd use a Tube Screamer into a BF Twin Reverb.=A0 A= few years ago, someone took apart a Dumble, melted the goop on the "s= ecret component", and described the circuit as...a Tube Screamer insid= e a Twin Reverb.=A0 So, consider saving $49K and going that route.=A0

While all the usual famous Dumble users always sound great, they sound = great through anything they've used, and I've never heard a Dumble = recording and thought ZOMG!!! That's THE Tone!!!=A0 And I've heard = a few live, and at close quarters, and so if you have $50k, go for it!=A0 O= therwise...

TH

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:14 PM, W= illiam Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:

I know this is a bit off topic but I thought some of you analo= g heads and guitar tone freaks might get a kick out of this.

As you may know, Alexander (don=92t call me Howard) Dumble is a legendary custom builder of guitar amps that now because of the= re rarity and celebrity connections (Robben Ford, Larry Carlton, and more rece= ntly, Carlos Santana to name a few) =A0fetch ridiculous amounts of money.<= /font>


--001636c9356a036276046ff412f1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jul 30 22:57:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 886A53C85D; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1800 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:57:39 UTC Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:27:57 -0300 From: Mike Kilburn Subject: RE: Tonight on Galactic Travels In-reply-to: <4A720D06.3010703@soundscapes.us> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ak0HAIq7cUoYih9e/2dsb2JhbACDAogLhDTDfYQXBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,297,1246849200"; d="scan'208";a="398996931" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Unsubscribe -----Original Message----- From: Bill Fox [mailto:billyfox@soundscapes.us] Sent: July 30, 2009 6:14 PM To: undisclosed-recipients: Subject: Tonight on Galactic Travels GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on Jeffrey Koepper. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Radiate" on the Ricochet Dream label. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#jul Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 04:27:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 437683C990; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: OT attention effects pedal freeks and would be effects designers. Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:27:09 -0700 Message-ID: <5546C3EC25054B4CB13A0A109E117E2D@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA115C.824CB8D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoRlytH08tLpvMlQICcgFZ+FGe3Dw== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:27:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA115C.824CB8D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know how this flew under my radar but it is an intriguing idea https://www.globalfulfillment.net/gfsnet/line6/10Expand.aspx?ProductCode=99- 043-0001, be sure to click the more info link for a more complete description. I think it would be most suited to people who already understand somewhat how to write DSP code ( I sure don't) but it does include a basic tutorial and software for windows, plus the hardware pedal.. Essentially, it's a line 6 product that allows you to write your own DSP effects and import them into a USB equipped hardware tone core dock. Pretty cool. Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA115C.824CB8D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 I don’t know how this flew under my radar = but it is an intriguing idea https://www.globalfulfillment.net/gfsnet/line6/10E= xpand.aspx?ProductCode=3D99-043-0001,  be sure to click the more info link for a more complete = description. I think it would be most suited to people who already understand somewhat = how to write DSP code ( I sure don’t) but it does include a basic = tutorial and software for windows, plus the hardware pedal.. Essentially, it’s = a line 6 product that allows you to write your own DSP effects and import them = into a USB equipped hardware tone core dock.  Pretty = cool.

Bill

------=_NextPart_000_0000_01CA115C.824CB8D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 07:26:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 578313CA1D; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Boss looper contest in Germany Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:26:26 +0200 Message-ID: <003b01ca11b0$37689ec0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcoRsDbqST2fXV9FQVmAYEma2N9+Mw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.236; VDF: 7.1.5.53) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:26:31 +0000 (UTC) http://www.loopercontest.bossmusik.de/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 08:17:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 070553CA75; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 238485167/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.224.108/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.224.108 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnYBAIVDckpPTuBs/2dsb2JhbAAI0VqEFwWKBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,301,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="238485167" Message-ID: <4A72AC48.5070108@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:33:12 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio Zoom H2 References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A715283.90007@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Raul Bonell wrote: > 2009/7/30, andy butler : >> hi Raul, >> Yep, it's a pity about the pre-amps on the H2. >> Actually, the onboard mics don't have that problem, >> so I wonder where the quality loss comes in. > >> If you go the DIY pre-amp route, why not use a dedicated >> pre-amp chip like SSM2017 (or whatever replaces that these days). >> Simple circuits on the datasheet for the chip. > > electronics nerd here. do you mean replacing the preamp chip that > drives the actual plugin power input on the h2 by the SSM2017?. I hadn't thought of that ...gain 5 nerd points :-) Don't know if it would work, perhaps the H2 voltage is too low, or not enough current. an external pre isn't hard to make > > i've found this site in the u.k., but they seem to sold all their > preamps out! although a new model is on the owen.... > > http://www.felmicamps.co.uk/products/felbattpreamp.html > well, remember the H2 line input is -10dB with absolutely no headroom. I use a 20dB pad with mine for line recording. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 10:48:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60EAB3CB1D; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:48:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: <598493C1-5242-4B63-B1E0-AE8951495E32@mac.com> From: Teddy Kumpel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <003b01ca11b0$37689ec0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:48:00 -0400 References: <003b01ca11b0$37689ec0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: <2dxskC.A.DPE.ovscKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:48:08 +0000 (UTC) ahhhh yes, looping as an olympic sport !!!! awesome play by play by announcers talking quietly like at a gymnastic event BORIS: "yes, here's ****... of Hannover, he's been looping for 3 years now and comes from a beat box, singing and classical ukelele background. oooooh, he started off strong with a nice reggae beat, after tapping in the tempo himself... a lot of the younger looper are using tap tempo I noticed Jim, whereas the older loopers are used to setting it manually in a menu...." JIM: "yes, I've noticed that too... something about the new equipment, oh, he's added a fine ukelele skank part with phase shifter, a little lagging time offset in the hip hop tradition, the judges are going to like that.... ah yes, you see Ricoloop grinning..." BORIS: "yes, Ricoloop, the undisputed champion of looping here in Germany, one of our judges today.... oooooooooooh, he's added a nasal bass and a counter melody on distorted ukelele simultaneously, that's gotta count for extra points with the judges" JIM: "yes, in the rules of olympic looping the more elements you add in one pass the more points you get, especially if you make it so you can turn them off later individually..." (10 minutes later) BORIS: "he seems to be going for the big end build up now with the later multiple vocals.... ouch, he hit one bad note there... or is he intending to go for aeolian mode over the dominant chord structure he's set up... let's see how he gets out of it" JIM: "ya, the judges don't really care about harmony here, they're more concerned with the smoothness, execution and difficulty level... but it look as if he's saved it BORIS" BORIS: "oh yes, he, slipped the major third back in... what finesse... I think that should count for extra foresight points... and he's playing a little riff..AND AND AND.... wow... great ending, with a nice reverb blast final chord... a good showing by *** of Hannover... let's see what the judges have to say" etc..... Teddy On Jul 31, 2009, at 3:26 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > http://www.loopercontest.bossmusik.de/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 12:07:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8EC03CB29; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ffipS1bjdj616zmjeurF9BOaEXKUrN0h6M77pRnXDEs=; b=HTp2w8hCGNdAaa8LehOWSuAOtch76JKm3kIVY6XYKEK/Xhb5ZGz/BXwbs2YxwBGo6V l+ZsojoZf2bF5vCRCnXa1dmucePkF8Z1K2SCnzsfm80EzP9n0ebstgf1R+aLHn4aH0PI e+kVBvhKRGMgn7UHcvXuFSuCcrjyV/2jcByR4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=jJhhJ0EmJcQiKFL5jZ/K+nH1nhLhCKYokK5i9B4rVOCZluP3ofPazE9lR11mo+AZ0N Jbi72K59d5iKBTci/UdpVdhroPrrdScHd8fTfpefjmoGm59s0KnDCGiOUaOXNQ2HnNMZ lQcE3Q7Paqt7CNao/xZG8odfgNdWwMXw8WP3E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:07:10 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Gig Spam - Los Angeles From: Dennis Moser To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:07:10 +0000 (UTC) One last time before we hit the road today...if you can make it, that would be cool! ******************* Everything Bends: An Improvisatory Evening of Demonstration Performance, and Conversation Doors 6:30 PM / 7:00 PM Saturday, August 1st Bandit Gallery 1549 Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90026 As writers and artists, we are all driven by an improvisatory impulse, even if it is unacknowledged. However, audiences commonly focus on the temporary and performative aspects of improvisation, not on its limitless potential as a critical invention that provokes further conceptual considerations. More than just a gesture, improvisation is a sort of aesthetics of existential responsiveness. It is process and not just result, one that constitutes both cognitive and kinetic experience. If indeed everything does bend, and no creation is fixed, static or predictable, then how far can we explore and stretch the possibilities of a practice consciously engaged with improvisation? With Special Guests: Douglas Kearney / Ryan Tanaka / Brian Moss / Dennis Moser With MC: Joe Milazzo And Additional Installations/Performances by: Stephen Van Dyck / Daiana Feuer / Dennis Gonzalez & Yells At Eels Suggested donation of $5-10 will be appreciated. 3strophe at gmail dot com -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 13:54:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 609993BE97; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=n6qBwmz5PZgXGbgzEyXBKEEVGdk4CfD9cCrvU/co5NE=; b=GqFbVScugfdu2kWkJrRcyXM06Pr50h9Z0m8v3SRllnYG1ZZcfKGRzlwfrU34lsX2D3 MJrIZHlKM2+xSulU67Mj5lwA83xjELygA2KMA2CHHG4q9gkqHOCAXKOanASv0HiJcPxD a9hmG4yJ8hpvpjo/evyQsWJDUdZvsTbxU+PnY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QQxn09zWw17dZsRoyQ6xSx7SQ0Xb1eAcUnFWN3oYRmk2Bwema5X6coDvoi5TH9S9o2 6VMiEI/N+L4yZ2ZZqLxd0M1JGCmYtgTK2m02gncq+eYgIfpzpl/suaj6JfFO8pKt/MZ/ X08HOSU8skJP39eBpKH0RoX1ixqWueYAPxoFk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A72AC48.5070108@tiscali.co.uk> References: <66f9cc1e0907281052q11c4955ep23349b9ce1bdb8c3@mail.gmail.com> <00b101ca1099$1da9abe0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A715283.90007@tiscali.co.uk> <4A72AC48.5070108@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:54:26 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Re: in ear MICRO-phones, binaural audio Zoom H2 From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:54:29 +0000 (UTC) 2009/7/31, andy butler : > I hadn't thought of that > ...gain 5 nerd points :-) yoohoo! ... > Don't know if it would work, perhaps the H2 voltage is too low, > or not enough current. > an external pre isn't hard to make > well, remember the H2 line input is -10dB with absolutely > no headroom. > I use a 20dB pad with mine for line recording. if AC is available, i use a tfpro4 stereo preamp with comp+limiter, -20dB pad, rca output into the in line of the h2. i wonder if the nowadays cheaper microtrack II from m-audio has better preamps. -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 14:57:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34C0C3BE95; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <21483.65.48.1249052276.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <598493C1-5242-4B63-B1E0-AE8951495E32@mac.com> References: <003b01ca11b0$37689ec0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <598493C1-5242-4B63-B1E0-AE8951495E32@mac.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:57:56 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Hilarious!!! Great inside the loop joke Ted. On Fri, July 31, 2009 6:48 am, Teddy Kumpel wrote: > ahhhh yes, looping as an olympic sport !!!! > awesome > > play by play by announcers talking quietly like at a gymnastic event > > BORIS: "yes, here's ****... of Hannover, he's been looping for 3 years > now and comes from a beat box, singing and classical ukelele background. > oooooh, he started off strong with a nice reggae beat, after tapping > in the tempo himself... a lot of the younger looper are using tap > tempo I noticed Jim, whereas the older loopers are used to setting it > manually in a menu...." > > JIM: "yes, I've noticed that too... something about the new equipment, > oh, he's added a fine ukelele skank part with phase shifter, a little > lagging time offset in the hip hop tradition, the judges are going to > like that.... ah yes, you see Ricoloop grinning..." > > BORIS: "yes, Ricoloop, the undisputed champion of looping here in > Germany, one of our judges today.... oooooooooooh, he's added a nasal > bass and a counter melody on distorted ukelele simultaneously, that's > gotta count for extra points with the judges" > JIM: "yes, in the rules of olympic looping the more elements you add > in one pass the more points you get, especially if you make it so you > can turn them off later individually..." > > (10 minutes later) > > BORIS: "he seems to be going for the big end build up now with the > later multiple vocals.... ouch, he hit one bad note there... or is he > intending to go for aeolian mode over the dominant chord structure > he's set up... let's see how he gets out of it" > JIM: "ya, the judges don't really care about harmony here, they're > more concerned with the smoothness, execution and difficulty level... > but it look as if he's saved it BORIS" > BORIS: "oh yes, he, slipped the major third back in... what finesse... > I think that should count for extra foresight points... and he's > playing a little riff..AND AND AND.... wow... great ending, with a > nice reverb blast final chord... a good showing by *** of Hannover... > let's see what the judges have to say" > > etc..... > > Teddy > > > On Jul 31, 2009, at 3:26 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > >> http://www.loopercontest.bossmusik.de/ >> > > > > http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 14:59:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAA9A3BE99; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UbKkDS3fYu1bIWCxe2lY2L/basDh6Umyw23AkfDwA2c=; b=qe7f9In5lqGtP2BxaCCfzg4Nt4y3smfslW58kYE9tkEs7Wu0qeHim+jFWy0cwEwH7k 1csG6r1hU5K4xSjNJOjOwVbo3aO4fIJf3a3H1agk71YZ7nl2gu+qskcYdcTc9nqHOZ3W 0AX1nyAzBgPIfx2kQVbXmolYc9pHIKwzOgE/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Xh7SW61Ryvx3aLavQlutk62Uj+KQMSSuh4x5lbkNfk0rXmTmoR8+S1n5JRXJre/urc ZhGd5TSLX7E7XRxwZTQifnf26nOj2uj9kFP4Xolzb6nJIO+JBtXo6vP6g03NffRe/Aj3 J+V22b+KxQs7hxosZEf+TjdUJHFoa78ojO7ho= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19388.72.22.1248976345.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <19388.72.22.1248976345.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:52:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1318f21d0907310752o35cca364qf86fce81285d1f63@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: What's on your iPod/CDplayer/Turntable From: George Ludwig To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f8724822d4b5047001928f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:59:11 +0000 (UTC) --001485f8724822d4b5047001928f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for those links...I'm really liking Jack Conte, as well as his collaboration with Nataly Dawn...really great stuff! For some reason I'm somewhat hesitant to admit that what I've been listenting to lately (if it's not checking mixes of my own project) has either been: Electric Six "Fire" (my god, these rock and they crack me up) Jean Michel Jarre "Oxygene" (remastered version...I listen to this for inspiration) -George On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Andr=E9 Donawa wro= te: > Hi, > > I'm a little late to the party, but really enjoyed the posts. > So much interesting material here. > I'm always on the look out for fresh sounds. > > I've been working on a pop project lately, so most of my listening has > been in this realm. > > Here's what I've been digging. > > Jack Conte - Love his free spirit and adventures with sound and video. > http://www.youtube.com/user/jackcontemusic > > Radio Darvish Persian Traditional Music - Got this from Derek at CDBabay > http://www.radiodarvish.com/Radio_Darvish/Home.html > > Knaan - Hip Hop with some African Flavours > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtB5RTkyN43s&feature=3Dfvsr > > Radiohead - In Rainbows - All I Need > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiY4APDrl66s > > Emiliana Torrini - "Me and Armini" > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiS9CB0LU_0c > > Bassekou Kouyate & Ngoni ba - ngoni wizards from Mali. I got to see them > play live earlier this year. Incredible!! > http://www.myspace.com/bassekoukouyate > > > Hey Rick, I'm digging the Nik B=E4rtsch. > > Peace, > > Andre > > > > > > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa > http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa > > > Andre Donawa > Barbados Guitar School > Woodside Gardens > Bay St. > St. Michael > Barbados > 11157 > Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) > 246 436 8294 (School) > > http://www.barbadosguitar.com > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa > http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa > > --=20 -George http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic --001485f8724822d4b5047001928f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for those links...I'm really liking Jack Conte, as well as = his collaboration with Nataly Dawn...really great stuff!
=A0
For some reason I'm somewhat hesitant to admit that what I've = been listenting to lately (if it's not checking mixes of my own project= ) has either been:
=A0
Electric Six "Fire" (my god, these rock and they crack me up= )
Jean Michel Jarre "Oxygene" (remastered version...I listen t= o this for inspiration)

-George
=A0
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Andr=E9 Donawa= <andre@andre= donawa.com> wrote:
Hi,

I'm a little late= to the party, but really enjoyed the posts.
So much interesting materia= l here.
I'm always on the look out for fresh sounds.

I've been worki= ng on a pop project lately, so most of my listening has
been in this rea= lm.

Here's what I've been digging.

Jack Conte - Love = his free spirit and adventures with sound and video.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.youtube.com/user/jackcontemusic
Radio Darvish Persian Traditional Music - Got this from Derek at CDBabay=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.radiodarvish.com/Radio_Darvish/= Home.html

Knaan - Hip Hop with some African Flavours
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <= a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtB5RTkyN43s&feature=3Dfvsr" = target=3D"_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtB5RTkyN43s&feature= =3Dfvsr

Radiohead - In Rainbows - All I Need
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiY4APDrl66s
Emiliana Torrini - "Me and Armini"
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiS9CB0LU_0c

Bassekou Kouyate & Ngoni ba - ngoni wizards from Mali. I got to see= them
play live earlier this year. Incredible!!
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--001485f8724822d4b5047001928f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 15:09:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BECC3BEC0; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: <61C81A5B-1827-4A24-A228-EC69B0BCE723@mac.com> From: Teddy Kumpel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <21483.65.48.1249052276.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:09:42 -0400 References: <003b01ca11b0$37689ec0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <598493C1-5242-4B63-B1E0-AE8951495E32@mac.com> <21483.65.48.1249052276.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Andre, ya, I'm really routing for **** to win, I'm a huge fan... ever since =20 he won the gold in Beijing I really love his beatbox/classical ukelele combo TEddy On Jul 31, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Andr=E9 Donawa wrote: > Hilarious!!! > Great inside the loop joke Ted. > > On Fri, July 31, 2009 6:48 am, Teddy Kumpel wrote: >> ahhhh yes, looping as an olympic sport !!!! >> awesome >> >> play by play by announcers talking quietly like at a gymnastic event >> >> BORIS: "yes, here's ****... of Hannover, he's been looping for 3 =20 >> years >> now and comes from a beat box, singing and classical ukelele =20 >> background. >> oooooh, he started off strong with a nice reggae beat, after tapping >> in the tempo himself... a lot of the younger looper are using tap >> tempo I noticed Jim, whereas the older loopers are used to setting it >> manually in a menu...." >> >> JIM: "yes, I've noticed that too... something about the new =20 >> equipment, >> oh, he's added a fine ukelele skank part with phase shifter, a little >> lagging time offset in the hip hop tradition, the judges are going to >> like that.... ah yes, you see Ricoloop grinning..." >> >> BORIS: "yes, Ricoloop, the undisputed champion of looping here in >> Germany, one of our judges today.... oooooooooooh, he's added a nasal >> bass and a counter melody on distorted ukelele simultaneously, that's >> gotta count for extra points with the judges" >> JIM: "yes, in the rules of olympic looping the more elements you add >> in one pass the more points you get, especially if you make it so you >> can turn them off later individually..." >> >> (10 minutes later) >> >> BORIS: "he seems to be going for the big end build up now with the >> later multiple vocals.... ouch, he hit one bad note there... or is he >> intending to go for aeolian mode over the dominant chord structure >> he's set up... let's see how he gets out of it" >> JIM: "ya, the judges don't really care about harmony here, they're >> more concerned with the smoothness, execution and difficulty level... >> but it look as if he's saved it BORIS" >> BORIS: "oh yes, he, slipped the major third back in... what =20 >> finesse... >> I think that should count for extra foresight points... and he's >> playing a little riff..AND AND AND.... wow... great ending, with a >> nice reverb blast final chord... a good showing by *** of Hannover... >> let's see what the judges have to say" >> >> etc..... >> >> Teddy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 16:28:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A0363BE99; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:28:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:28:39 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090731162839.316530@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090729135620.74E393BE8F@arsenic.violacea.com> <7D8FF3B1-5822-4737-9ED6-266196AE2A12@batterycage.com> <20090730051627.219950@gmx.net> <20090730153556.49650@gmx.net> Subject: Re: OT: Notron Latronic - alternatives? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18cM+4/QiQc2+GrjiCVzKPRPIs3zTCJJXME11e3Cf bPj/sI6OazU2BXqS5znrzfh8vd4nvqxo8S1A== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: jyxGftA8TiE+Wtp6nGVwvhV9ZUVSRNe3 X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Resent-Message-ID: <0fVJmB.A.z5H.8uxcKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:28:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi Mark > I'd check out a download of Reaktor if you don't have it. I haven't used Reaktor but it seems interesting, indeed. Currently, I'm playing only little keys. But I might look into Reaktor when I devote more time to playing keys/synths again. Thanks Buzap -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 16:34:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC0E43BEC2; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:34:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:34:36 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <61C81A5B-1827-4A24-A228-EC69B0BCE723@mac.com> Message-ID: <20090731163436.285330@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <003b01ca11b0$37689ec0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <598493C1-5242-4B63-B1E0-AE8951495E32@mac.com> <21483.65.48.1249052276.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <61C81A5B-1827-4A24-A228-EC69B0BCE723@mac.com> Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX190NqFYq0x0CpvYGw0dG19fExiFtGLSPb3ffUFdES 2B0fxlZEvDHCSnq5eTGh6ENeZbiwmmvpkRig== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: enkbB04ObHIhRdsjwjU0h0wiJihyapDn X-FuHaFi: 0.72 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:34:40 +0000 (UTC) HILARIOUS, Ted!!! :-))) I'm really not sure what to think of these contests... On th one side, it might be good to promote looping, on the other hand... Anyway, I love your comments, Ted :-)) Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 16:38:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7F353BEA6; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:38:06 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20090731163806.316490@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: OT attention effects pedal freeks and would be effects designers. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+ZwWYjJRmZcTavEM7RhmRmGlqaCmP+HOQBP/l+wH xky8t/g9Iji7x/wbfd+LnhjtMCfHEA4ILp8g== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 1i9Kf5o2eWUoSsF6iHRzcCQxU3U4Nw+M X-FuHaFi: 0.79 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Hi Bill OMG, this is great... This link may be easier to open: http://line6.com/tcddk/ Wish they had it in stereo and with additional external pedal/midi option... best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 16:56:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4D5D3BEA9; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:56:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 492 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:56:35 UTC Message-ID: <00fb01ca11fe$e7a89170$0902a8c0@raem50> From: "Reid Ertsgaard" To: References: <003b01ca11b0$37689ec0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <598493C1-5242-4B63-B1E0-AE8951495E32@mac.com> Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:49:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:56:35 +0000 (UTC) Genius! Nicely done. I could almost see the Ukranian judge holding up the 5 amongst the sea of 9s. Reid Think Pay attention The job of a citizen is to keep his mouth open. - Gunter Grass ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teddy Kumpel" To: Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 3:48 AM Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany ahhhh yes, looping as an olympic sport !!!! awesome play by play by announcers talking quietly like at a gymnastic event BORIS: "yes, here's ****... of Hannover, he's been looping for 3 years now and comes from a beat box, singing and classical ukelele background. oooooh, he started off strong with a nice reggae beat, after tapping in the tempo himself... a lot of the younger looper are using tap tempo I noticed Jim, whereas the older loopers are used to setting it manually in a menu...." JIM: "yes, I've noticed that too... something about the new equipment, oh, he's added a fine ukelele skank part with phase shifter, a little lagging time offset in the hip hop tradition, the judges are going to like that.... ah yes, you see Ricoloop grinning..." BORIS: "yes, Ricoloop, the undisputed champion of looping here in Germany, one of our judges today.... oooooooooooh, he's added a nasal bass and a counter melody on distorted ukelele simultaneously, that's gotta count for extra points with the judges" JIM: "yes, in the rules of olympic looping the more elements you add in one pass the more points you get, especially if you make it so you can turn them off later individually..." (10 minutes later) BORIS: "he seems to be going for the big end build up now with the later multiple vocals.... ouch, he hit one bad note there... or is he intending to go for aeolian mode over the dominant chord structure he's set up... let's see how he gets out of it" JIM: "ya, the judges don't really care about harmony here, they're more concerned with the smoothness, execution and difficulty level... but it look as if he's saved it BORIS" BORIS: "oh yes, he, slipped the major third back in... what finesse... I think that should count for extra foresight points... and he's playing a little riff..AND AND AND.... wow... great ending, with a nice reverb blast final chord... a good showing by *** of Hannover... let's see what the judges have to say" etc..... Teddy On Jul 31, 2009, at 3:26 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > http://www.loopercontest.bossmusik.de/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 17:12:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B21C3BEA9; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: From: Teddy Kumpel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <00fb01ca11fe$e7a89170$0902a8c0@raem50> Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany X-Priority: 3 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:12:04 -0400 References: <003b01ca11b0$37689ec0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <598493C1-5242-4B63-B1E0-AE8951495E32@mac.com> <00fb01ca11fe$e7a89170$0902a8c0@raem50> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:12:17 +0000 (UTC) well, of course, cause looping is so prevalent in the Ukraine... hopeful parents put a looper under their children's pillow when they're born... TEddy On Jul 31, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Reid Ertsgaard wrote: > Genius! Nicely done. I could almost see the Ukranian judge holding > up the 5 amongst the sea of 9s. > > Reid > Think > Pay attention > > > The job of a citizen is to keep his mouth open. - Gunter Grass- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 17:43:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C7BF3BEA9; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A732DE9.9090209@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:46:17 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany References: <003b01ca11b0$37689ec0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <598493C1-5242-4B63-B1E0-AE8951495E32@mac.com> <00fb01ca11fe$e7a89170$0902a8c0@raem50> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Well, that does it! You're the undisputed winner of the commentors contest, running simultaneously in a parallel loop to the loop contest. How anyone can come up with a looping contest is beyond me; next up I suppose is the "Metal bpm Speedpicking Contest", with John Petrucci being denied entrance due to unfair competition. /van Teddy Kumpel wrote: > well, of course, cause looping is so prevalent in the Ukraine... > hopeful parents put a looper under their children's pillow when they're > born... > > TEddy > > On Jul 31, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Reid Ertsgaard wrote: > >> Genius! Nicely done. I could almost see the Ukranian judge holding >> up the 5 amongst the sea of 9s. >> >> Reid >> Think >> Pay attention >> >> >> The job of a citizen is to keep his mouth open. - Gunter Grass- > > > -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 17:47:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FCDB3BEA9; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: <1D71CC16-2419-4963-9FC6-728C29251654@mac.com> From: Teddy Kumpel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <4A732DE9.9090209@post.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:47:08 -0400 References: <003b01ca11b0$37689ec0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <598493C1-5242-4B63-B1E0-AE8951495E32@mac.com> <00fb01ca11fe$e7a89170$0902a8c0@raem50> <4A732DE9.9090209@post.cybercity.dk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:47:18 +0000 (UTC) I'm sure the metal speedpicking contest already exists... I've seen double bass drum speed contests... Teddy On Jul 31, 2009, at 1:46 PM, van Sinn wrote: > Well, that does it! You're the undisputed winner of the commentors > contest, running simultaneously in a parallel loop to the loop > contest. > > > How anyone can come up with a looping contest is beyond me; next up > I suppose is the "Metal bpm Speedpicking Contest", with John > Petrucci being denied entrance due to unfair competition. > > /van > > > > Teddy Kumpel wrote: >> well, of course, cause looping is so prevalent in the Ukraine... >> hopeful parents put a looper under their children's pillow when >> they're born... >> TEddy >> On Jul 31, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Reid Ertsgaard wrote: >>> Genius! Nicely done. I could almost see the Ukranian judge >>> holding up the 5 amongst the sea of 9s. >>> >>> Reid >>> Think >>> Pay attention >>> >>> >>> The job of a citizen is to keep his mouth open. - Gunter Grass- > > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > Teddy -- PS. -- http://teddyjam.com new live recordings, always -- http://myspace.com/teddykjam friend me -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 17:51:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7E943BEBA; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:51:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Q+iN7IzdnH4RCBN2+aM9tXIe9AnYk/JYP8nuqTYOZac=; b=WnQXX3lAMMP2I5PlwLbEeMo/dqRmx2wHw2G1292nxh351yVVisufPHKUXx7XKFrIPb i3EAPSYUDvFziu8moNmVB59+dbmxDYjI0OIJsgkwCWKfABgUG6sK/oZox+cqQniJoWr+ dYMAdls7T7omr5OHbL8ZizJKXwI91fn9EnhOQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=pTFvOCkDcMDqc0Ei1hKtZPTggVzk069U7fSttE8OcvRDOzfbSRNx/PUbQThQOPSqrl FMzA7exnbHutsSra0HH7zVri8UETBcfSGd2p18Eiy/pjkEwo5mwjsEFXr0pZtwoNlX02 SnrODRSclO9kg+q01J0NqS7wsjftyjh/Xcg60= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:51:43 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: any Reaktor ensemble designers out there? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c7db9c4579b0470041218 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:51:45 +0000 (UTC) --0016364c7db9c4579b0470041218 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i'd like to create or modify a step sequencer to send out control change messages at specific values, but i'm clueless how to do it. i have reaktor 5.0 and there are a couple of step sequencers in the legacy library, but they send midi notes to a simple drum synth. can anyone help me? many thanks! sim --0016364c7db9c4579b0470041218 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i'd like to create or modify a step sequencer to send out control chang= e messages at specific values, but i'm clueless how to do it. i have re= aktor 5.0 and there are a couple of step sequencers in the legacy library, = but they send midi notes to a simple drum synth. can anyone help me?

many thanks!

sim
--0016364c7db9c4579b0470041218-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 17:58:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DADF3BEAF; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+FISo7F/XvTOWE6viG7LV3AUc6AbVw/6Vnu6AfWymGU=; b=i7YUomeHLWlc+TLxOHL/7TLbbariao3Oxo3mRTeUJUND+m9YVURifKnqV1/36VdCxS MfoneceENzZ3VjUUIArFfz5pxaiypxDS6WHUKo9PgUVtTlOwBQMzF3glIJCzW/r2NQ3S KMac2+fbIULc4zYAic/++pAq71x9A8BOFQNeo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jhNQY+7QF4tOZ92XW+rIJJwxBhaXvwx3k3c0cBY26LcGE00HLcT5+cCwOQrVRab590 wX1fdlKSqL9W1ZEQ5hcnmeB0g7aF+tcwAb1wIKJxpgj5ltONPZ6zEfcF2IYHfAljXbdv flXonjzISEK8eVUHq92QfYh3iSlrel0m4RFZA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090731162839.316530@gmx.net> References: <20090729135620.74E393BE8F@arsenic.violacea.com> <7D8FF3B1-5822-4737-9ED6-266196AE2A12@batterycage.com> <20090730051627.219950@gmx.net> <20090730153556.49650@gmx.net> <20090731162839.316530@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:58:47 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Notron Latronic - alternatives? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:58:48 +0000 (UTC) It seems equally adept at building effects and sequencers as it is instruments. One look at Newscool and I was hooked. http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/reaktor-5/?page=3D= 545 On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi Mark > >> I'd check out a download of Reaktor if you don't have it. > I haven't used Reaktor but it seems interesting, indeed. > Currently, I'm playing only little keys. But I might look into Reaktor wh= en I devote more time to playing keys/synths again. > Thanks > Buzap > -- > Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate > f=FCr nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 18:01:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D66B23BEA9; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dl6a9W0ze/7ZL7cNn4TMZ7EWYRrMSglnA9QDtI9wnfo=; b=uArv/6cUdDU6T9efqCGiK4apBKN04LpuLjFNMxvdaZxRPEvjZ6c2YizSZPg2k0S6pw d0XKVHTtXTrrWdT8P5KGWZK1T+nRYg/t4yf+ilnH+9xSHWWif0VYQf8WX2bOn6m1J9te pnHUmB5ugd8WLaCqqIaep5UU9C9i+5N3QzDpg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wXDab5+qWpsoZklE85m6VN3i+XuiXGiZNSBMMRbr1JP5Fwd42fSOilSlrkFD2PoJTH y9QVCeNQr4GMV9didFi0Eo0eyiZtZH+ReV3QSR58R10RqLIUkzJy5gIKTL0tpiIfaAkV 3lE1sJ+3ujXgxE+ojpEiq8il4o12eqOG0kAXo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:01:14 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: any Reaktor ensemble designers out there? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:01:14 +0000 (UTC) What DAW are you using? I ask because this is easy to set up in Ableton Live. On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i'd like to create or modify a step sequencer to send out control change > messages at specific values, but i'm clueless how to do it. i have reaktor > 5.0 and there are a couple of step sequencers in the legacy library, but > they send midi notes to a simple drum synth. can anyone help me? > > many thanks! > > sim > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 18:10:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F39783BE99; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:10:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FG0HmnROEmjm2W2N6G7mDu3qC9GT7zdnV6FZCwgWA94=; b=TxbKr9OFReVN9fksWcmuXsZdF/VGsknGIz9ac04pEBQ7LkdzEmTOeiiP0mEDYNkv+P 3lSTRQaU0X3d827DWOm0vnMbgnkQsVheo2WxQLD6N9t6zKqV2bRdoKScKhE7+v3PwwSA jT3AXnOyIVQDSG4E62MwxfCQuMImteoz33Tv4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=vHr2Ms2BO9wZteGt7boMkD7BXlqDIFRxPxOoE2coUcdGfEc25CpFkl8XQw9mV3dArN bP4CWk8GcuknsSKA0WGenxb9bgaV1DeR1MaXgk+m4c/MOmiM0Guyc8fDx6dYkWkO9I43 aQFOZloBRz3hkY0n7Mn96Yz9Y3oAMfuTxyGYc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:10:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: any Reaktor ensemble designers out there? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dbe59a3b700d047004576c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:10:53 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dbe59a3b700d047004576c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yes, i know this is easy in ableton, but i want to use the standalone reaktor to send midi info to a hardware device. (i'm a logic user, so i guess i could just use logic to do this...?) sim On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > What DAW are you using? I ask because this is easy to set up in Ableton > Live. > > --0016e6dbe59a3b700d047004576c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes, i know this is easy in ableton, but i want to use the standalone reakt= or to send midi info to a hardware device. (i'm a logic user, so i gues= s i could just use logic to do this...?)

sim

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> = wrote:
What DAW are you using? =A0I ask because this is easy to set up in Ableton = Live.


--0016e6dbe59a3b700d047004576c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 18:12:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21FDC3BECC; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:12:39 -0500 Subject: RE: Boss looper contest in Germany Thread-Topic: Boss looper contest in Germany Thread-Index: AcoRzGXUDIVU+Bq7Tby0jN+ieYYirAAPeJ4w Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE33FE667@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <003b01ca11b0$37689ec0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <598493C1-5242-4B63-B1E0-AE8951495E32@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <598493C1-5242-4B63-B1E0-AE8951495E32@mac.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:12:43 +0000 (UTC) > BORIS: "oh yes, he, slipped the major third back in... what finesse... > I think that should count for extra foresight points... and he's > playing a little riff..AND AND AND.... wow... great ending, with a > nice reverb blast final chord... a good showing by *** of Hannover... > let's see what the judges have to say" JIM: Wait..what's this?...Oh no, I've just received word that *** has teste= d=20 positive for performance enhancing software. An instant disqualification! = =20 Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 18:19:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC64E3BEB2; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:19:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yVs277EkEYOAg5OPApBE+PmP63sqii96s93f40kceNw=; b=a2rVqpB2o/yBvp68JxXBOVWcXWQrQgI3h2PRwgVcau5A9nB8P2fwoJDRFzpYjQ0ose zN4vAEA2/ck/Hrj41My78Zv2ZEE7PFl0gVSYlUdrkhpYvXXcaKATWhdChOgn+euSFTus yKS+DNWV15LI8xpof0NrlMhMSm4mTggMQJaQQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=JVlG1aByOFdkaqWoWkYg9V0lmxRmO17jMbTd8J0ORFxNZiXyEg4n8WPQ9iYJ0jKsXV ZRmJVeQg70oVJw9Jz9Gtp8yIMfFsSpbSwxNhg/qAEjakAhq+ONvLp46HvCICUTRR7goK pBRQD87+fNmAmcpeJPM5tpkk1au4io4vDdHzY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <20090731163806.316490@gmx.net> References: <20090731163806.316490@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:19:40 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3e67bee5437b852c Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT attention effects pedal freeks and would be effects designers. From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:19:41 +0000 (UTC) I wish they supported Mac development tools! os. 2009/7/31 Buzap Buzap : > Hi Bill > > OMG, this is great... > This link may be easier to open: http://line6.com/tcddk/ > > Wish they had it in stereo and with additional external pedal/midi option= ... > > best regards > Buzap > > -- > GRATIS f=FCr alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > > --=20 os@collective.co.uk http://twitter.com/expertsleepers http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 19:00:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C44613BEB9; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:00:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uhfavpAsl/zCZYbf4CPL6GHbhruHycur10HB7DJ9RXg=; b=WITYLqPseE3gs3Vktk0qjyDf//opSC/xuTRFd6w6juOnPWRao4IYS9dP3Ca4atpx/E eUlsCJZPsUFtDfUy6Vm3vMfjKi1xhxCk28Ea6q3A2LRIx0rFrIzYH+LDCimje5hAlXjv y+NeJ0YvhG0pUa1mPy8Mx566/zzZ4HVZOf8AQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QS6l+UlebIFLIdZckiMSkwpictBQZCer8/9YeSkOTJNQRNM8XNWKQHe97q+F8egxlZ WJx1jVYo4qEIuWPHRXOOt8F2KGHnYp8Ll65UIOrcX0cUnwNABGpfOXVZy9pQCb3yoyMI +pp3fitXVYUYHPZoE7EE99tRqLdqP2Wks20PU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:00:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: any Reaktor ensemble designers out there? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:00:21 +0000 (UTC) Seems like that would be an easier route no? I'm not a Logic guy, but word on the street is if you want amazing midi options Logic has always been the one to beat. On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > yes, i know this is easy in ableton, but i want to use the standalone > reaktor to send midi info to a hardware device. (i'm a logic user, so i > guess i could just use logic to do this...?) > > sim > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Mark Sottilaro > wrote: >> >> What DAW are you using? =A0I ask because this is easy to set up in Ablet= on >> Live. >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 19:24:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 695A03BEAF; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:24:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A7344C3.8030101@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:23:47 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #643 for July 30, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:24:13 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090730.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #643 July 30, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Jeffrey Koepper. The Featured CD at Midnight was Radiate on the Ricochet Dream label. Jeffrey Koepper: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#jul PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Picture Palace Music Auerbach's Night Curriculum Vitae I (Ricochet Club Dream) Polaris Voltage Controlled Background Stories (Ricochet Inspirations Dream) Markus Reuter and Spiral Manoeuvre Dervish (DiN) Mystified Chimedrops Frigid Radiance (Triple Bath) Parallel Worlds Not Being Mirrored Shade (DiN) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Jeffrey Koepper Blue Sector Radiate (Ricochet Dream) Jeffrey Koepper Astral Projection Radiate (Ricochet Dream) Jeffrey Koepper Timeline Radiate (Ricochet Dream) Jeffrey Koepper Byzantine Machine Radiate (Ricochet Dream) Jeffrey Koepper Interphase Radiate (Ricochet Dream) Jeffrey Koepper Synchronous Radiate (Ricochet Dream) Jeffrey Koepper Parallel Being Radiate (Ricochet Dream) Jeffrey Koepper One Hundred Memories Radiate (Ricochet Dream) Jeffrey Koepper Creation Radiate (Ricochet Dream) Jeffrey Koepper Rising Sun Radiate (Ricochet Dream) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Saul Stokes. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Fields on Binary Records. Saul Stokes: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#aug Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 19:40:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55E343BEC0; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:40:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <4BD66771-2766-4F06-9146-59027DD4BA69@earthlink.net> From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: any Reaktor ensemble designers out there? Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:40:46 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:40:54 +0000 (UTC) You should be asking at the Reaktor User forum. And have you checked =20 the User Library? Didn't take long to find this: <> It's here (you need to log in to the User Library to access this; =20 What?!? You haven't registered?!?! That's like owning a restaurant and =20= still only ordering from the menu!): = https://co.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=3Duserlibrary&type=3D0&ulbr= =3D1&plview=3Ddetail&patchid=3D8002 There's plenty more stuff like this, and plenty info about tweaking, =20 and folks willing to customize; ask over there=85 The forum: http://www.native-instruments.com/forum_us/ And be sure to visit: http://kore.noisepages.com/ =85for endless explode-your-head learn-Reaktor goodness. dpc On Jul 31, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > i'd like to create or modify a step sequencer to send out control =20 > change messages at specific values, but i'm clueless how to do it. i =20= > have reaktor 5.0 and there are a couple of step sequencers in the =20 > legacy library, but they send midi notes to a simple drum synth. can =20= > anyone help me? > > many thanks! > > sim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 20:14:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48B2B3BEB2; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=anYnT0zPRetJDm7Ck09QmvJGLaN27N4j+/LUmR4pN1Q=; b=ogxsYIrRdUrxl3bGprbY3QmvKPG47hpR+XVVFJ8oDOuqgdHLcXlDmUcSuwxW8k9tE9 V9rGurFHt5RWYJOm69id5WJOpv5ZwySR4RLWFiPpPADuVevXJjFwMbDP74NDvdNm0HYJ hjWvd8jk73+80FQPxy/RAKuDpmgv105gRV3lE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=qK/o0qSDVUvlUPJmLM6wod3mppsb/99B6mpDrLZgoHau2/ZP6xK0a8CRi35MnWhRt2 c2kzMs8roz7ojIueQ+TDY22IYfXRDXkBJa91/LtNaa2gESegbLKj8V88rTKFNPeaKtoN IDED0vZP7Ks1SllmRXcw1kqgD28wz6JuJ5aGs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4BD66771-2766-4F06-9146-59027DD4BA69@earthlink.net> References: <4BD66771-2766-4F06-9146-59027DD4BA69@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:14:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: any Reaktor ensemble designers out there? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d27c93da0b5b0470060ff0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:14:06 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d27c93da0b5b0470060ff0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks chaps! On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:40 PM, David Coffin wrote: > You should be asking at the Reaktor User forum. And have you checked the > User Library? Didn't take long to find this: > > < > > --0016e6d27c93da0b5b0470060ff0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks chaps!

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:4= 0 PM, David Coffin <dpcoffin@earthlink.net> wrote:
You should be asking at the Reaktor User forum. And have you checked the Us= er Library? Didn't take long to find this:

<<MS16 v3.0; modulation sequencer:



--0016e6d27c93da0b5b0470060ff0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 21:35:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 876163BE97; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A736451.6010909@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:38:25 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boss looper contest in Germany References: <003b01ca11b0$37689ec0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <598493C1-5242-4B63-B1E0-AE8951495E32@mac.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE33FE667@barq.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714AFE33FE667@barq.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Larson wrote: >>BORIS: "oh yes, he, slipped the major third back in... what finesse... >>I think that should count for extra foresight points... and he's >>playing a little riff..AND AND AND.... wow... great ending, with a >>nice reverb blast final chord... a good showing by *** of Hannover... >>let's see what the judges have to say" > > > JIM: Wait..what's this?...Oh no, I've just received word that *** has tested > positive for performance enhancing software. An instant disqualification! > > Jeff That's only for starters.. I hear the Japanese violin playing robot was cought using Positronic Enhancers.. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jul 31 23:47:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3D663BE93; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:47:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2pFZY6wD2vh4XNhBM7xmm8+/Ywl7W+YSFnZ6TEsj//4=; b=uyK6sDbgQdcVMzzTvnueOjQpZsE5NPcUb9MYWcrREPkIvxkiT7CxTRYEkyqbqQ/vSP btHBmFVrOzfKEVWi/YdJ74HQTyuuYOqNqkLYgVGDoYABpybwjQlOO/f+aWJEQHHozqj6 xz4WkQt8wwruzsKno0Tq2EwstpJK6RWOMqrtk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=sbbfQNEPHWlggcrp1z8wvZkJeTh3c5Yz0LQuONHubc1Z22v4h3OBGsiL5DQ5JACKM4 btrSYIMvymx215t1nGjKvv6LplYdro3I3vvSf6zKFrXnaHIzoRh/Mq4rwzszlt1VsYap FmFFwG+TUZTdNTlXdcKp9HhTftHo4y67yW624= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 01:47:31 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: automation or triggering functions From: Raul Bonell To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/93581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:47:32 +0000 (UTC) i'd like to know some pros/cons, likes/dislikes about this two different approaches to looping: 1) automatic control of your looper of choice by a hw/sw sequencer. vs. 2) "traditional" trigger/modulation of functions/parameters by means of a physical controller. anybody using a mix of both? i'd be curios to know. -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com