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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 1 06:18:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A52803BE79; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3815 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:18:04 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:02:33 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Doctor T with Vortex Other Dimensional Ensemble Friday Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, Once again, I will be exploring new dimensions with Todd Brunel's Vortex Other Dimension Ensemble. My performances with Todd always send my brain to unexpected places. Friday 5 June @ Outpost, 8pm $5/10 the Vortex Series for New and Improvised Music presents: The Vortex Other Dimension Ensemble Rob Bethel - cello / Todd Brunel - clarinets Aubrey Johnson - vocals / Emile Tobenfeld - visual poetry This multidimensional group will approach music and art from every corner of a wide imagination. Rob Bethel is a critically acclaimed classical and avant guard cellist who plays in numerous groups around New England. A recent New England Conservatory graduate, Aubrey Johnson is carving a bold path as a jazz vocalist, making numerous local appearances and in festivals around the United States. Dr T is a frequent Other Dimension traveler as well as Todd Brunel, who always enjoys a ride to the Other Side! Rob Bethel on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvQf3X6PXdE Aubrey Johnson on myspace: http://www.myspace.com/aubreykjohnson OUTPOST: 186 1/2 Hampshire St., Inman Sq. Cambridge - All Ages OUTPOST DIRECTIONS: Near cr. Prospect, opposite Hess gas, behind 7-11. Big '186' on R side. Follow walk at Left to gallery, REAR http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org/ -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 1 09:47:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B77A73BE7E; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 208047986/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.204.217/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.204.217 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8BAL8/I0pPRszZ/2dsb2JhbAAIym+EDAWIXA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,283,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="208047986" Message-ID: <4A23A69D.7020604@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:59:57 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP and Logic Glitches References: <66f9cc1e0905150133h6177a833ibf3edd5e96bd6bd6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905150416t179c0273v8955d7779637ce9a@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905311315r1c3616f9jb522519d67360d65@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905311331n1ea11596uf1433adec0b52118@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Hi Daniel, without a diagram or a detailed description of your setup it's pretty much impossible for anyone to diagnose your problem. We're just guessing based on assumptions. >From what you say below, about needing to use SUS commands I'd guess that you're sending midi clock to the edps, and not using it. Indeed, midi-clock sync doesn't work well with sequenced edps (Claude Voit worked that out, and he's the guy who got the EDP midi response up to spec ). So set your EDPs to sync = OFF, and then the way to keep them synced is to use the Restart command as often as needed. Having done that, you *can* use regular Record=TOG, ..but the SUS commands will be as good, stick with what you're comfortable with. Incidentally, you don't need to send Reset before starting a new Recording (unless you want to). Maybe Claude, (who I suspect of filtering this list for posts with his name in) will chip in here, probably will if I got something wrong. (hi Claude :-) Didn't you say *all* the midi info was going to the EDPs? ...and the occasional note is lost when you mix live playing with EDP sequencing. This would point to the loss happening wherever the sequenced midi, and the live midi are merged. If that happens in your software, the software is buggy at midi-merging. Either 1) Use a hardware midi merger in your system 2) Use different software 3) Send the EDP commands down a completely separate midi cable. andy butler Daniel Hegarty wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry for being dense, just a couple of clarifications! > > 1. Say for example, on one of the EDPs, I need to record a 4 bar > loop, and then reset that loop later, and then record an unrelated > 2 bar loop. How do I alter the loop length if not by using the > SUSrecord function? When I've experimented with quantizing, it > appeared to me that I could only set a fixed loop length using the > 8th/cycle parameter. This obviously wouldn't be sufficient for the > use case i describe above. i.e. When in quantize mode i press > record once to start recording the loop, i then press it again, > but the stop is determined by the 8th/cycle parameter rather than > my button press. My impression was that Sync=In, and Quantize was > to be used when using a fixed length loop which you wished to > develop and perform operations on. If that's not the case, I'd be > very interested in how to very the loop lengths on the fly, so to > speak. > 2. I assume the pre-delay option is only useful in the case of using > the EDP quantize as otherwise it would cause the commands not to > be sent out precisely on time. > > I have a horrible feeling I've wasted a lot of time going about this the > wrong way! Thanks so much for your patience. > > Daniel > > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 1 10:37:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 771283BE79; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:37:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aWQvrrriZZudKbYCrtJOtBu3OE3i6UU+6D1Cgpiq/Jg=; b=K7zUeB/6zbAgp0mLigR/6PKCnY4YGkveZTqB4WAhabhJMoDd0g4EjfRUmDZCw4wDOi bT53iSf7sexfr0ZONby4ROqJwhawlWmEeNkGZBJ0GZYLuyFViXMRssjdmrdBew44fkz0 MwQn53Wo1lI0B5jJtRzJXq7scOvESenr2A4gw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=gCLR0s0UaMiUthgpaxjPiVHAH3H+IuD3q33EmGFOHPFDiZMYnjnbL2BTStohxTJrWx w+QzsWF0WMiRAKVApSfOPX3zMXvWVV1umPweL1tjCE0bmjMec7qQT4wkd+C8+TrPg4+o FiubFKVLNgt47krknfMk7ySKEpqp6iEDOqnkE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 12:37:48 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906010337r1d43954dg8caf0cae9a95dd52@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: mastering plug ins From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:37:50 +0000 (UTC) > Anyone have tips on some good freeware vst mastering plug ins? Not freeware, but a good set of speakers would be a good start ;) > I'll master loops with them :) Could you be more specific? Do you want something on the 2bus going to your production master, or something as part of your playing setup downstream from the looper (but not going directly to the production master)? Compressors: Blockfish a lot of people dig the Kjaerhus Classic Compressor EQs: no idea, really (using the PSP Q for that stage), but this sounds interesting: http://rekkerd.org/ronald-passion-releases-massive-passive-eq-v10/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 1 13:12:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9270D3BE7C; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1243861970; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=As7UQUAS6wyT079NcXlzwiI1upM=; b=dRIXVl918hAhsjJopV0yub5UjilMrKo9I91ZqwMuhGQm3of4fXrjl6Fy/hMYwG/L ugmVPzRNG4OBM+hHx7gmFaHFlI7EDEhkUDtZK2iKMYRJJz1jsuIDbZ6UKnTNTXca; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=bkwJBqQcAAAA:8 a=N0Y9ZC7eEVMguL6ZZdUA:9 a=aEqgHal6xG5Svk7MTufIFM0Ubt0A:4 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000e01c9e2ba$aa01f820$c9e83547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0906010337r1d43954dg8caf0cae9a95dd52@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: mastering plug ins Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:12:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rainer, I sent you a more detailed email offlist but basically what I need is post recording mastering. For putting the finishing touch on my recordings. Specifically: Waves Linear phase EQ lowband - equivalent noise reduction (I have this) Waves S1 Shuffler - equivalent Waves C4 multiband parametric processor - equivalent Waves L3 Ultra Maximizer - equivalent I have found some of these but have not tried then yet. thanks, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 6:37 AM Subject: OT: mastering plug ins >> Anyone have tips on some good freeware vst mastering plug ins? > > Not freeware, but a good set of speakers would be a good start ;) > >> I'll master loops with them :) > > Could you be more specific? Do you want something on the 2bus going to > your production master, or something as part of your playing setup > downstream from the looper (but not going directly to the production > master)? > > Compressors: > Blockfish > a lot of people dig the Kjaerhus Classic Compressor > > EQs: > no idea, really (using the PSP Q for that stage), but this sounds > interesting: > http://rekkerd.org/ronald-passion-releases-massive-passive-eq-v10/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 1 13:19:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D1033BE7C; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=meprRj3QaOF5W4gPmU5DJTS+zt+iugztd8V1yNPplq0=; b=UFTEUDTW4c/PXcoUje62NjmRz1ZfD4x2wWRi9jlkf61fFcxZWoK3gV55yDPwu5mpQW /RBOUP1Sqz64LnsGsgHD2tuQViqHX56W2kqYmDQAm7mc0fjdltYE41abK+xaLN4yn63F Tzude2JovLHfsCStKSbKjzyYy8gKRIfFTEllg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CuYmiYGB7j/W7aAsPO9yxfRMbebZX4QsO+npD+U6vp+zCbjoXsQFYM0WDFksRp2WS7 d35nd8dapvek0wd3rGdhER0WJUlO8k9CNLMfln0BXbT03LIG9iNTzYizyWVwjPmFuoBt KpNMXea1GtfywgDrSFVWIHmCFYRJOhdQTSKXs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000e01c9e2ba$aa01f820$c9e83547@YOUR08D5303051> References: <7334ca1b0906010337r1d43954dg8caf0cae9a95dd52@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c9e2ba$aa01f820$c9e83547@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:19:00 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906010619y6fc5df84v7df42535281873bd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: mastering plug ins From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:19:00 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >>> Anyone have tips on some good freeware vst mastering plug ins? No. If your search could be extending into also commercial products I know that many are finding the iZotope mastering suite the best value for money. http://www.izotope.com/. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 1 13:42:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CF653BE79; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:42:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=spspUZz0JKguF8uMLEmdWQx1+Z1TLc0YW19tf0UXkfs=; b=MhwA+J6CS5q5fhNRcegBMJthFKB1UhcRRI5gAC0ANT9A05MazL64L9cM3nikwc0USd fxHDoMRvNlyuSACk6nGHxVMBtJU4AqL/1Y8fJw4sAJDncsrRI3QdrFszqFTlrWYStIK3 z91YErNBPf8IZP5WkwiQx/sHRBjN6LaR/+Z6c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=LrjRFY86dSNfc6FbdhCn4/FzVakvrZDZY3RZPiqXa5UHmhxsSt2huOWcSqdSmtiiET +3txIVZz0kiwUho9ibhhb7f2b4cqXMurUKgaLGM5WyRKffxX8C24x0feRD3p/onVCJor cHi6pXl0IXS3qcyhY5eAjxQURQVZdR5/xvyXg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:42:56 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906010642g1432d270n100db275839a967@mail.gmail.com> Subject: mastering (was: mastering plug ins) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:42:58 +0000 (UTC) > I sent you a more detailed email offlist but basically what I need is post recording mastering. For putting the finishing touch on my recordings. First of all, I'd like to quote from my original message: > Not freeware, but a good set of speakers would be a good start The presentation you sent me has that sentence "don't operate without an x-ray" in it. I'd say many a great doctor has operated without x-ray, but every single surgeon has to rely on seeing the patient during the operation. So your most important tool are in fact the speakers (and the room you're sitting in). It does not make a lot of sense to argue whether the blockfish or the kjaerhus sounds better, or all of them sound worse than the waves rcomp, if you're not able to make out what your processing steps actually do. A lot of people rave about KRK's low-price line, while the Behringer active nearfields are another nice candidate (though I believe the price is much less attractive in the US, but this may have changed with currency effects). Of course, for speakers it makes sense to a) read on educated forums (see below), b) go and check those things out in a store which carries several candidates and has them set up with matching levels so you can A/B them properly. Bring music you know well and music that sounds good (see Katz's site below for his "Mastering Honor Roll"). To address the chain you're quoting: "Waves Linear phase EQ lowband - equivalent noise reduction (I have this) Waves S1 Shuffler - equivalent Waves C4 multiband parametric processor - equivalent Waves L3 Ultra Maximizer - equivalent" I'd like to disagree here: I'd use destructive EQ - stereo thing (optional) - compressor - shaping EQ - limiter/dither/noiseshape. Multiband compression has been overused a great deal, and if your source material is not fucked up seriously, you're almost always better of with a fullrange compressor, followed by and preceeded by an EQ. Why two EQs? There's things you want removed (like low-frequency stuff, or some disturbing resonances) before the compressor, because you don't want them to affect what the compressor does. On the other hand, you may want to add some shaping which should not affect the operation of the compressor, and that goes after the compressor. I found the group on the recording.org forum very helpful. gearslutz.com also has some (!) competent contributors. Another very helpful resource (for reading material) is digido.com - Bob Katz's site. Finally, when judging mixes and masters, there's the important issue of the subjective perception of audio levels. If you're listening at normal room levels (say 60-70dB SPL level), then you usually percieve the louder version as "better-sounding". How to work around that problem? Calibrate your speakers so they give a SPL of 83dB at the RMS level you want to achieve (-14 is a good choice for pop/rock stuff, -20 for audiophile listening). That way, you percieve exactly this level as good and the levels around it as equally good (unless they're off by more than 6dB), so you're not cheated by your ears. Bob Katz has a lot to say about this (see the "Level Practices" articles). 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 1 15:49:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07E113BE7C; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=H92NewO5z/Fi7KmUqUl+fHKPyHwKH01ysyYAM0R+7nFVtFTNauiwqr/xlwIH8spDp0zDWX9HP0/AI/pnQywrRBc9qzwh41AkvRSh/Il7TBPeG+O/E8WrsKNQloLx86fACsww643tWos6rWofUqbbNe5l9hdbOegPhQ44+tSFXRM= ; X-YMail-OSG: JM9Y2BkVM1miy5egsd49QrgX4PaJ3YWihZaMX7VNG9BApuMWv_5ZJEYjSJTCydSw1pcMRs2VPpKfNlqbHma10RCFCOl8k2znDN.HU8DOK7HkOOrYAaHU_VXvfLvV_ZZ0EbhoWAfP4nim393TQt1LUnQDhhX_aual2g7XaM6coqMjXDECD1G_fwZrgJW4wn1ljIfDP5PjAH5WY.OAIkh2UK74iQGCpgIn47pIgiCjsXmfFSTyyV2RGata2CrbUFgkMH1NDo0ShOhBouPzpyWMq9m.ksWs5hUaiNKPlvW7tXrGStEeHC5Q75i5_vWJjjJlRlLU X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <9445316AD31E43C6A77F834EF846E303@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: Subject: LD: Your opinions please - Terratec Axon AX 50 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:49:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0E11_01C9E2D8.F53B0930" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <0bbBIB.A.6KC.Yi_IKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:49:44 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0E11_01C9E2D8.F53B0930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Folks, I intend to use it for MIDI mapping predominantly. I'm not too bothered = about sounds with the software. Your opinions would be fully = appreciated. Best, Ricky ------=_NextPart_000_0E11_01C9E2D8.F53B0930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0E11_01C9E2D8.F53B0930-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 1 16:51:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B9063BE7F; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <0B35E0FA-7000-42B3-A22C-D3645BCD6AF6@earthlink.net> From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: FS: Custom Loooper 4-way A/B/C/D/YY switch Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:51:25 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Greetings, and sorry about all the FS posts; hopefully, these'll soon =20= be over=85 I had David at loooper.com (not apparently still making stuff=85?) make =20= me a switch that sends an input out to any selectable combination of 4 =20= destinations; a picture's here: http://tinyurl.com/n26dfh I used it to access 4 different modeling multiFX, each of which fed a =20= mixer, so they didn't have to be returned to the loooper. I ran it =20 with a standard Boss power adapter, but also had a battery clip =20 installed on the outside in case I ever wanted to run it by battery, =20 in which case the six screws on the back-plate would have seemed =20 punitive to me=85 This could easily be removed/repositioned inside. The =20= paint-job was my only disappointment with the unit; it seems to flake =20= at the wimpiest of brushes with other things=85 I don't need it any more, so it's FS; first to you guys, then off to =20 ebay=85 I'd like to get $135 for it, plus shipping. Thanks! dpc 1096 Winchuck River Road Brookings, OR 97415 541-728-0634 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 1 17:34:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6118B3BE7E; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 17:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2shjNER3kZ1XQ+7uysRCova8BgAGb70g14U2PON1spE=; b=rnJTNrNqYPtvrh5RLRhPJbeFGIoWPnwq0NaOEAy7NOztXGBhUNUP0zPJix5t77Xdy+ h4BOaKRo7gBKxg9Tp1VZ65uG9D356pGfEwXiN/sDocqq7KS010PM8eR4cjIKjX+ek7Dc HBoQvkYbqhIH4r3phME60Fz+/HdJk+UsGFbXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=o7wv5NYXh9XvQ/DUdjulwjmIB87tbRJp0XYcgi3ksqsz9jDYJwjdH6Gh2wTr7xi4Zq f6TJoNIdnJuIZZe90q+7zwwKRhYTppJxkU4NqhiIpA9VNV1ErYhxVE7pC+PvBssSEQM5 xSBIr22N31lRNcn1O00ehm52t5iXw0MLLIZL0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:29:31 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f62944e6cf4f046b4cc47f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 17:34:39 +0000 (UTC) --001485f62944e6cf4f046b4cc47f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit specifically with fx racks and midi control in Live 8 probably best to contact me off list many thanks! --001485f62944e6cf4f046b4cc47f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit specifically with fx racks and midi control in Live 8

probably best to contact me off list

many thanks!
--001485f62944e6cf4f046b4cc47f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 1 18:10:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BF453BE7C; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:10:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 204992271/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.204.217/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.204.217 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjICACC2I0pPRszZ/2dsb2JhbAAIzTaEDAWIXA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,285,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="204992271" Message-ID: <4A241CA4.2030402@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:23:32 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD: Your opinions please - Terratec Axon AX 50 References: <9445316AD31E43C6A77F834EF846E303@a> In-Reply-To: <9445316AD31E43C6A77F834EF846E303@a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:10:56 +0000 (UTC) Ricky Graham wrote: > Hello Folks, > > I intend to use it for MIDI mapping predominantly. ? > I'm not too bothered > about sounds with the software. Your opinions would be fully appreciated. > > Best, > > Ricky Axon is the quickest responding guitar to midi system. It's optimised for strat with Roland GK type p/u when using a plectrum. (but for other guitars it's still the fastest system). The usb possibly makes it a bit faster for soft synth use. Apart from the usb, it's not that different to the Yamaha G50, which can be bought on ebay (£103 £143 last two I saw) Actually, I should do a comparison with AX100 versus G50. It's conceivable the Axon tech got better since G50 days. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 1 18:42:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2935C3BE79; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:42:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9x8IvKBI44Y3+1DYlydTyB6l88pqQrXjsWc/fu7GjdQ=; b=Kg4c/Er7x1SNEDfvGWSObkvm4s3HSEJJvS4sapxIuV8Dh7M5lIHdX8zGJpjvjOPFAo PuOKnEI7gcN17YhC9dunTixzzR/LmUM/2/h3XFi7+8DZ2odbvmU5G3YZLbowOMzFXTfF tjIFb6guzMFphywCS7ot8PZv6HvzORf5CmuGI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=huvZEoKaIazAxNL37JPxVnJrsiO59CrUAaNQGV59JAYkFsLZTBwAbPH1KkOKzi669P 3r8ur9mQPp38NQ/W7VVEa49itWgUWnUjkCZQxZNQH6jMe7RiDYC5HgqLs0exmLLQczBH 2LE42sWV0Zf2BkgG4aVL+66Feql/xxu6oiLO4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906010619y6fc5df84v7df42535281873bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0906010337r1d43954dg8caf0cae9a95dd52@mail.gmail.com> <000e01c9e2ba$aa01f820$c9e83547@YOUR08D5303051> <66f9cc1e0906010619y6fc5df84v7df42535281873bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:42:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mastering plug ins From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:42:38 +0000 (UTC) I find these to be useful and pretty brilliant for all sorts of dynamics processing: http://varietyofsound.wordpress.com/ On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: >> >>>> Anyone have tips on some good freeware vst mastering plug ins? > > > No. > > If your search could be extending into also commercial products I know > that many are finding the iZotope mastering suite the best value for > money. =A0 http://www.izotope.com/. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 1 19:02:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 109943BE80; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 408 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:02:58 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tMhLBaXHUaCHqDI50d/NCd7/lx/2DoJta/hG6gk6kAA=; b=YF3YZrW9JWcLcRbuzCZAxIQVBNiuthp99bJQS/gFhlxB+boSOoSyIvaFbv7i7hnYTE TCf6VE7htsY671ceCpuagwLdvjpwrYWK12ObDJVnHD7l0Plm0hsxcZOXrAsm83EBRdzO ohhKAoN6RahmqK2iXSS7PVeu9IwEGyAl2VkTw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qbs6bFr4tyEEC/hwknBV/VQSOMOMFdiZjeE/eWtLqgEZZUM+a6P/DKnKmIv3bJHnZN BeXbFkYEJN6sccBtZxUEJu4IOz/9lHTcJ2+A/JbUCIwYQQEeBcrRb6evyzuUE5ynvOSm 1hzvjp/Y4/Pv1/+AIvoPhFcq0iFrLvA1/7yyM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0B35E0FA-7000-42B3-A22C-D3645BCD6AF6@earthlink.net> References: <0B35E0FA-7000-42B3-A22C-D3645BCD6AF6@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:56:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FS: Custom Loooper 4-way A/B/C/D/YY switch From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1iRBoC.A.9QH.iXCJKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Hi David, I might be into that - does it make a clicking sound in the audio signal when switching channels? So if I'm reading this correctly, the signal first goes to the DC or BA channels, from which you select D, C, B or A, right? Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:51 AM, David Coffin wrote= : > Greetings, and sorry about all the FS posts; hopefully, these'll soon be > over=85 > > I had David at loooper.com (not apparently still making stuff=85?) make m= e a > switch that sends an input out to any selectable combination of 4 > destinations; a picture's here: > > http://tinyurl.com/n26dfh > > I used it to access 4 different modeling multiFX, each of which fed a mix= er, > so they didn't have to be returned to the loooper. I ran it with a standa= rd > Boss power adapter, but also had a battery clip installed on the outside = in > case I ever wanted to run it by battery, in which case the six screws on = the > back-plate would have seemed punitive to me=85 This could easily be > removed/repositioned inside. The paint-job was my only disappointment wit= h > the unit; it seems to flake at the wimpiest of brushes with other things= =85 > > I don't need it any more, so it's FS; first to you guys, then off to ebay= =85 > > I'd like to get $135 for it, plus shipping. > > Thanks! > dpc > 1096 Winchuck River Road > Brookings, OR 97415 > 541-728-0634 > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 1 19:15:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 337673BE77; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:15:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1243883750; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=NAvLLIBxUJizgBrL2vwjiRcXP2M=; b=eHFhwxP8OLK5BhRAFl8GdKuFExywKY2BinCdyoEZnsQN5cCc2PN1tegn9HhC3rMH qWYoPTER5tIZEHFx3lLgBI7q/etZdNvjRjmBtINIgfPqo4JlRsvdVzr+19hlCI+O; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=1-d4i4fEC5kA:10 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=HqhU5Q3nAAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=fH_xyJoqAAAA:8 a=paUis6ZMAAAA:8 a=dMZfGW12AAAA:8 a=v22j8-6GdUMi1eQ_xyAA:9 a=mvOedxZopi_x2E11bCVBpe39oOQA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:15:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Embarq Customer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <123716603.1777291243883750348.JavaMail.root@md18.embarq.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: mastering plug ins MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: [71.53.235.190] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.11_GA_2696.RHEL4 (zclient/5.0.11_GA_2696.RHEL4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:15:51 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Mark, Per and Rainer, Seeing as how I don't make any money for this stuff and I am really poor in= real life I just need to get by as best I can.=20 These look very interesting and I will be trying them out. I do admit as usual I am in way over my head on this seemingly mystical art= of mastering. Even a little improvement would go a long way. best, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 14:42:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: mastering plug ins I find these to be useful and pretty brilliant for all sorts of dynamics processing: http://varietyofsound.wordpress.com/ On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: >> >>>> Anyone have tips on some good freeware vst mastering plug ins? > > > No. > > If your search could be extending into also commercial products I know > that many are finding the iZotope mastering suite the best value for > money. =C2=A0 http://www.izotope.com/. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 1 19:41:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E18D33BE77; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:41:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 799197.30907.bm@omp402.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1243885265; bh=yGSmo5hQdimOihQSpUax3tI0LtBB9TsffEqTvvd1tGo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=t5nMQEgkcZ8lJtmMMGNbZFZB876y2Hda6vUwp46EHrlYx+b8GZYNJ0LHwWGkJhzUyge5C//sQoRTz984cZMSnAk3KPBsfgij63uyXArNnjRxGcVIJdBwqiAZTyoMheIaV4l66dKfLcJIUZx1XLroNbrJFWTleELMZ5QPymsUOHo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ia1FtST3+O6WcWzlDd85ve7bAw9Og8mFTIKZKAGDNX7wx3oRBA2FYDDvnDYVk3B6wcCCq5odaPZPKtgf0OnTyx59Ze70AtZZaB+ybLobKtWVD4k0pXo16YDzlFYHfDLY4kzc6evEm26UJOOoeynaN5mXLGzH+j72xOkrY9TaFvM=; Message-ID: <563186.94325.qm@web45303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Wp4EjIoVM1lE0ih.y82l7Y6fNPLVRBp.rMMO3c57JhWSOOsOg__2bU8q337_86oxZsQGtEDTzBD4gpneKRXvPvr_2Y2TRxyRyooxt6XclolvtOsITsAhBLW0fJA7nwfYtdLJUwJYdR24_Efwb8qZ0xQij0m3gIuf9lDYz_2LQbo5bYj0FgKIf6g1bSIjhBWw4i.DX7nSN45mgxCOiTumSasxiR2iIM_uH7.swn3o.J9CvYBOQb09BDob7dmruWzN.x.qNvXJk510dSYvU52IrdAxZVwoHICpg0W15hzPJKVMw9GJXswAeZEX2x0v.AkfB7E.CSGpk79ZwfmH23qRRYnIeM0Q X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 12:41:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: video with looped shakuhachi and wind chime soundtrack To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:41:06 +0000 (UTC) Shakuhachi looped through Line6 EchoPro, wind chimes through DL4 (if I remember correctly from way back in February...) -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 1 19:51:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E4DF3BE80; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:50:40 EDT Subject: Re: video with looped shakuhachi and wind chime soundtrack To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c6b.574cabf6.37558b10_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.199 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:51:09 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c6b.574cabf6.37558b10_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/1/09 3:41:30 PM, psychle62@yahoo.com writes: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe9UNw5XOOM > made me shiver!.....:)m "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** An Excellent Credit Score is 750. 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(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10012= 6575x1222377040x1201454360/aol?redir=3Dhttp://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/= default.aspx?sc=3D668072&hmpgID=3D62&bcd=3DJuneExcfooterNO62) --part1_c6b.574cabf6.37558b10_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 1 21:51:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46C443BE77; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 21:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090601175117.59916s7t7s811h0c@www.wightman.ca> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 17:51:17 -0400 From: phaslem@wightman.ca To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD: Your opinions please - Terratec Axon AX 50 References: <9445316AD31E43C6A77F834EF846E303@a> <4A241CA4.2030402@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4A241CA4.2030402@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) X-Originating-IP: 216.16.232.115 X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; FunWebProducts; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; InfoPath.1) Resent-Message-ID: <2spcAD.A.yhD.Y1EJKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 21:51:20 +0000 (UTC) I had a yamaha G50 and was never very happy with the tracking. I was =20 using it with a roland GK 2 pickup after several months of playing =20 around with it finally gave up and sold it off on ebay. I recently =20 picked up an axion ax50 and using it with the same guitar, though I =20 have since installed a graphtech ghost pickup, and it is worlds apart =20 different from my experience with the G50. The tracking is instant and =20 I have had very little adjustments to make in my playing style. I'm =20 running it through Reason 4 and having an absolute blast playing cello =20 and basoon parts with my guitar. I can't make any comments about midi mapping... I still don't really =20 understand the whole midi thing. I like things that plug in and pretty =20 much work the way I expect them to. regards, Paul Haslem Ontario, Canada www.dulcify.ca Quoting andy butler : > Ricky Graham wrote: >> Hello Folks, >> I intend to use it for MIDI mapping predominantly. > > ? > >> I'm not too bothered about sounds with the software. Your opinions =20 >> would be fully appreciated. >> Best, >> Ricky > > Axon is the quickest responding guitar to midi system. > It's optimised for strat with Roland GK type p/u when using a =20 > plectrum. (but for other guitars it's still the fastest system). > > The usb possibly makes it a bit faster for soft synth use. > > Apart from the usb, it's not that different to the Yamaha G50, which =20 > can be bought on ebay (=A3103 =A3143 last two I saw) > > Actually, I should do a comparison with AX100 versus G50. > It's conceivable the Axon tech got better since G50 days. > > andy butler > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 1 22:52:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D1B33BE80; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 22:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bSvSfFpW1OMQYt1Dng6VrRsnGIqIAIzznRceeudYh0w=; b=BIEuaKwiVBWy09/Q6DgYQ0+oPrrEiE4n+dfTS8acZvESL45fY5LWFcuhd81a64920d jjVBgSl1iMKCAnj5KV3JISTu15GVdJJW9AQBPLs/B71mUPOw6InystdpH6RyXN/KOrPr 7Ly2mg0/npZCE52Hb8YjuNCXLEQfrCunhUDqI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=imW7f+CHIh9g/WGQarlZNKj4z3F0I4IpfvZwVbNmGtzEN5FOEUMMOHvIY+HSSzj2Pj ZilERWiRICSo/mfSi9F2Bq3uWxstHcl3cJejZMzhgcJTwCxtG2/AUFmj6KM41jTD0Ss3 CtWR12Ws1tMyDHXZ5l33BmFrgz3c2QG6aWZMc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 00:52:20 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906011552y18fa66c1u8b3236c2d4b65d5a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Videos of last Saturday's "MoinSound Studio Sessions" online From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5ETCUC.A.WPF.muFJKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 22:52:22 +0000 (UTC) For those of you who missed last Saturday's "Moinsound Studio Session" (my virtual concert series, airing every even calendar week Saturday 1600 UTC), or for those who want to revisit it, here's the videos: Part 1: http://vimeo.com/4950747 Part 2: http://vimeo.com/4944942 Part 3: http://vimeo.com/4952432 Feedback welcome *g* Best, Rainer --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs http://justin.tv/moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 1 23:45:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14ED53BE77; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 23:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 01:45:36 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090601234536.288730@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/Zuq4ff0bZpuDUl7frJH7qerFcStuQMehddzQRSl 4V/Agh2dA+0x9NtXw0u+EVfgLkteq8QgPmKQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: GVoXfqM5X1V6F512l2By6wB/SDc4NMzP X-FuHaFi: 0.71 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 23:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Hi Simon > probably best to contact me off list Why would you like s.o. to contact you off the list? That's the whole purpose of the forum: asking qustions, sharing the answers. I'd be curious to hear of your problem - AND the answers people provide! :-) best regards Buzap -- Nur bis 31.05.: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate und Telefonanschluss nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 00:22:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9288A3BE79; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 00:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=z/QoZiRrSe6coWPt3l9Cm7me/Py2yajv+q9VqoVxLi8=; b=Tpsu5oIWHbw2546YWtz1sJ7GcZQD21KZC+/Vq5e3zwnLiJRRm1pJrMAm6TZqH0pnId FKyufyuEwpLXRe4JrnvFUXX4LwOyj2iB3Wl+TOoGXqZENhcA9tLkhaInvgHlO2Z733zP T5xqF9pEaAFZPzyO4/f8Tcig9qbZjya3J8zpY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=S+XwjVJmvGbXzjfFZ4xX2Rf11+iyC3s3qtNyI60iMBXaMzo8OrfNSUsSmBYZVDqDZO SLORqYrZ4esXl429XoFzJTHCWAsNgNjZPPVC71jD5kbOwZVchWaMn5a/N7K6IMQKwpoP XA08VGaKTJXnigV+AY9/0R96z5Nmlbw7VeGU4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <123716603.1777291243883750348.JavaMail.root@md18.embarq.synacor.com> References: <123716603.1777291243883750348.JavaMail.root@md18.embarq.synacor.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 17:22:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mastering plug ins From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 00:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Making money doing this? Is that a possibility? ;) On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Embarq Customer wr= ote: > Thanks Mark, Per and Rainer, > > Seeing as how I don't make any money for this stuff and I am really poor = in real life I just need to get by as best I can. > > These look very interesting and I will be trying them out. > I do admit as usual I am in way over my head on this seemingly mystical a= rt of mastering. Even a little improvement would go a long way. > > best, > > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark Sottilaro > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 14:42:37 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: mastering plug ins > > I find these to be useful and pretty brilliant for all sorts of > dynamics processing: > > http://varietyofsound.wordpress.com/ > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: >>> >>>>> Anyone have tips on some good freeware vst mastering plug ins? >> >> >> No. >> >> If your search could be extending into also commercial products I know >> that many are finding the iZotope mastering suite the best value for >> money. =A0 http://www.izotope.com/. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 01:37:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 367643BE7C; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 01:37:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1243906674; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=ELFGcmIlnM10Rk8a/tJKoVsgTb0=; b=fAm290THKz2xBauR8i03qG+h1monblF9NMGA/6zuKyOQ7bJqeRUhDWMdlRAtZphC Y6k1aodC7S+7DIcKUSc4bR9O76o+dEypycihlu1b6v9HIS/ojQQyVszhY7B6sE8r; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=eL0EtukimjsKSNDViMUA:9 a=iXLQ9yhqvBH87U416w8A:7 a=vLatyaCCsManlbTsK6FdBhxm6FAA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000e01c9e322$bf872c70$c9e83547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <123716603.1777291243883750348.JavaMail.root@md18.embarq.synacor.com> Subject: Re: mastering plug ins Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 21:37:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 01:37:55 +0000 (UTC) Money playing like this? hehe, I have heard rumors, but don't know anyone personaly. Really I don't have the time or inclination to be a mastering engineer. What I want is a free plugin with presets ya know? Mastering of all the best sounding recordings in a one click function. what I'll do is the best I can with all givens and keep on rockin! Hey that Tessla Pro does seen to be pretty darn nice! I tried it a bit. I have not figured out what I'm doing with it yet though. Thanks for the tip Mark. and thanks Tony for re-upping Kris Hartungs collection, that could eat about the rest of my life to try out! lots of cool doodads! thanks all, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" To: Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: Re: mastering plug ins Making money doing this? Is that a possibility? ;) On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Embarq Customer wrote: > Thanks Mark, Per and Rainer, > >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 04:18:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 439A13BE7C; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 04:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 434 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:18:50 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=O+tw2SCgbX2EflQO1EETqRMz/T3l9Nz3Hm2PrKDlNPU=; b=B2G+yqxVWG0tJ9yEUpF3/Rnvxin5gFHTIKeZhbEBp7ag8AQtf3AReXg/FkmyHO0j3u JDf5bwneFwvrmT07S+oD9uIGB5svYT0Fi3Gbh4cyymmRV7F5FchpUkfttcRIp/LC+GnK hsuTDnoUZqoTh4qYZswDcD/cRxV03y878TxtY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=wPlywADhcunYrx3dflxFZNecHgIaIyFRbKl9hWernmv2hz4Y7/VlmKyx8XhxbcBn4o 399FR/AfCDmOjBd9MLcqMMT0QmX27+WYtJvm3DLTcxRTpWAGfAIcuhcYa+E0RW9Cg+i3 0ILpeWwYIC9gQQTqsdJJ8KRtih6Pxsb5K5C1E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com From: Tom Ritchford Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 00:11:14 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f7460e3bd75535a6 Message-ID: <26ba8d120906012111o232615eai215ff3cf3b6348b1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636499e1ffeeeb4046b55bcfa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 04:18:51 +0000 (UTC) --001636499e1ffeeeb4046b55bcfa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Loopers. I'm very happy to announce the return of openLoop http://loopny.com/ at the Jack the Pelican Presents gallery http://jackthepelicanpresents.com/, as part of the Northside Arts Festival. http://www.northsidefestival.com/ I'll be starting to loop around 6PM and we'll be going late. I'll send the finalized information closer to the date but I'd also like to call for loopers who wish to participate in this activity to contact me! There's no pay but there are a gazillion people and press and I'll be documenting and recording all of it. (In fact, I have all four days suddenly - Thursday's openLoop, Friday's probably DJs, Saturday is bands and groups, Sunday's acoustic, so if you have something entertaining that you'd like to show off in a gallery, lay it on me.) loop on.... -- /t --001636499e1ffeeeb4046b55bcfa Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Loopers.=C2=A0 I'm very happy to announce the return of openLoop= http://loopny.com/ at the Jack the Peli= can Presents gallery http://= jackthepelicanpresents.com/, as part of the Northside Arts Festival.=C2= =A0 http://www.northsidefesti= val.com/

I'll be starting to loop around 6PM and we'll be going late.=C2= =A0=C2=A0

I'll send the finalized information closer to the dat= e but I'd also like to call for loopers who wish to participate in this= activity to contact me!

There's no pay but there are a gazillion people and press and I'= ;ll be documenting and recording all of it.

(In fact, I have all fou= r days suddenly - Thursday's openLoop, Friday's probably DJs, Satur= day is bands and groups, Sunday's acoustic, so if you have something en= tertaining that you'd like to show off in a gallery, lay it on me.)

loop on....

--
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 /t

--001636499e1ffeeeb4046b55bcfa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 05:45:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1D543BE7F; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 05:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8cnlAptbpbzUgTHDgzAVotx3m+BZuLRPKJQ3BQE4IYE=; b=iGcfP4Ii0/nBgKF3fOtkaayP5Dakmlrx15ZpqDlmT+8o9JAQnZybfio7wBpLftNvnh 7usTHmkaIZd0T/xD+nICarrcpZVStYA2kmr8bjSuveODBYJs61NNg1qJBibgtmUHcDUp 6qbcQNPeWEcSJsfwpjxfm2dFzQCJa4pZNliOU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=UMPUV7hSErU63Pl/g75b3fVYqr4oh5MrRkCUZElgofBn9myFWDmVvYydR4XWoOCw9B +jgKzbtPXGhzGfys05xFNe9hTu9qj8llG5MiXg0UCE1OGCleShX3Xi7sRDJU1bMOOSSJ r/rgy2X2Mptav1g21hMSIxfIBmFIe+lpzXnzY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 06:45:31 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 456caa58a32d5cb9 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0ocMzC.A.EpF.8xLJKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 05:45:32 +0000 (UTC) I'd be happy to help if I can. I'm somewhat experienced with Live. (as in "you're somewhat like a mouse" - name the movie) cheers, os. 2009/6/1 Simeon Harris : > specifically with fx racks and midi control in Live 8 > > probably best to contact me off list > > many thanks! > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 07:46:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F35EB3BE7F; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 07:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 208137966/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.140.160/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.140.160 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AucBAJZ1JEpPToyg/2dsb2JhbAAIzFmEDAWIXw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,290,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="208137966" Message-ID: <4A24DBAE.60900@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 08:58:38 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD: Your opinions please - Terratec Axon AX 50 References: <9445316AD31E43C6A77F834EF846E303@a> <4A241CA4.2030402@tiscali.co.uk> <20090601175117.59916s7t7s811h0c@www.wightman.ca> In-Reply-To: <20090601175117.59916s7t7s811h0c@www.wightman.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 07:46:02 +0000 (UTC) phaslem@wightman.ca wrote: > I had a yamaha G50 and was never very happy with the tracking. I was > using it with a roland GK 2 pickup after several months of playing > around with it finally gave up and sold it off on ebay. I recently > picked up an axion ax50 and using it with the same guitar, though I have > since installed a graphtech ghost pickup, and it is worlds apart > different from my experience with the G50. The tracking is instant and I > have had very little adjustments to make in my playing style. I've played with the AX100, and with the G50 with the *same* guitar and p/u. (GK2a as it happens). They seemed pretty similar to me, not surprising as they are essentially the same axon circuitry in a different box. The A50 was released without claims of better tracking than the AX100. In fact, I have them both here so will likely try a detailed comparison. I'd be guessing the change of p/u caused the change in behaviour. Is it possible your GK wasn't installed in the optimum position? :-) so you guys got me wanting a graphtech p/u ( well, I really don't like the clunky GK 2a, ) andy butler From admin@mail.mectron.it Tue Jun 2 10:15:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2932 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 10:15:33 UTC Received: from mail.mectron.it (host76-145-static.37-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it [88.37.145.76]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AF13BE71 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.mectron.it (Postfix, from userid 501) id 7DC671B49583; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:11:55 +0200 (CEST) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You have just received a virtual postcard from a friend ! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 10:33:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D74C3BE7C; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:33:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=KeAWcrf4ECfaHmuO2xJebEdiOlHMd6JYWDBAytR+ae07NjLwtzF1ascWv+bUDo3vTMpyFvJ/PZSUFgvGjVZY/QQatlzydeEBLqHo9PKj6vkI5I6U72jnhdOjvnMlxiVF8DkYdsLb5L12EHzn3HkQZUMz7zIP6Dsa1XxPEHeKQsU= ; X-YMail-OSG: FMCIn3gVM1mQRKyUApSxfmCbWAesYKcpAPEFEyW59BXsMezx0.RmirBcdWpFbkpweLIwksNXC8L8InexKN7.yYTCGk94Uuvag5xLBq_vlDld4QGzOD7HCGTQo1ElNTRW.J.ku6bF1SrTpjb144S2Fkd2tfhXCgU5Ol6bIzio9j8RXZdcRRnOBlkTlToPvEDAThrjDUOdh.GtOZprMr_Qbhz.0OLR.LI5JBto7lHEw4N7xwxvHmVndcSsq0gYXPn35je.DD5HkcNMENe62aA_r17cZCu7SBbqcyk.ZOGt4McJ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <243365ED8C3F450B80CA9105FF2307F5@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <9445316AD31E43C6A77F834EF846E303@a> <4A241CA4.2030402@tiscali.co.uk> <20090601175117.59916s7t7s811h0c@www.wightman.ca> <4A24DBAE.60900@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: LD: Your opinions please - Terratec Axon AX 50 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:33:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:33:46 +0000 (UTC) The Graphtech P/U are great, Andy. Very clean, I love the sound of the piezos compared to my magnetics. It really has changed my guitar sound, I hope for the better. I'm going to go with the AX50. I'll let you know how I get on. Cheers, Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:58 AM Subject: Re: LD: Your opinions please - Terratec Axon AX 50 > phaslem@wightman.ca wrote: >> I had a yamaha G50 and was never very happy with the tracking. I was >> using it with a roland GK 2 pickup after several months of playing >> around with it finally gave up and sold it off on ebay. I recently >> picked up an axion ax50 and using it with the same guitar, though I have >> since installed a graphtech ghost pickup, and it is worlds apart >> different from my experience with the G50. The tracking is instant and I >> have had very little adjustments to make in my playing style. > > I've played with the AX100, and with the G50 with the *same* guitar > and p/u. (GK2a as it happens). > They seemed pretty similar to me, not surprising as they are essentially > the same axon circuitry in a different box. > The A50 was released without claims of better tracking than the AX100. > In fact, I have them both here so will likely try a detailed comparison. > > I'd be guessing the change of p/u caused the change in behaviour. > Is it possible your GK wasn't installed in the optimum position? > > :-) > so you guys got me wanting a graphtech p/u > ( well, I really don't like the clunky GK 2a, ) > > andy butler > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.50/2150 - Release Date: 06/02/09 06:47:00 From admin@mail.mectron.it Tue Jun 2 10:39:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from mail.mectron.it (host76-145-static.37-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it [88.37.145.76]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26D93BE73 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:39:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.mectron.it (Postfix, from userid 501) id 7B5381B6A0D1; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:04:34 +0200 (CEST) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You have just received a virtual postcard from a friend ! From: received@postcard.org Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090602100434.7B5381B6A0D1@mail.mectron.it> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:04:34 +0200 (CEST) postcards.org

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 10:53:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F06C33BE80; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZTaPwxtr83IrPMgl8DFZ5GI8q4bGFgD2n8NGuai7ycc=; b=tf6llvvLsGabbV5AeyJSZGKxior6Qk9q3JSU2DZKewgpX+C3zkB/7LIgvVdkLPffYa XUiSUFmn2TeyCKQkdhNKmNswMGr3KbEkBpVVws5AoaSsW1ZXeVoOmFhZdibFn7Esmxor Vnq+hoTB/EFUNf9VL0nFgSn5gBu+Hng5qv/Vg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=x8286/jkj08vDX0WOrvClguaJPdikFtz19ARRzW06PrTXlQCbVmUPxOZdq1GKelcYb u+52VgH2IhApTU0r+NryVlR5AlJslilmYkGG1APBnJMCmSz5NdNKcPke8ekgYYWhI/8w cMGAjVT27C6jt5+h19uobbldJe6Iv3y1GwwfQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:53:34 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906020353s16dcce6cn627be6c9bd4394ff@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: mastering plug ins From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:53:35 +0000 (UTC) > What I want is a free plugin with presets ya know? Mastering of all the best sounding recordings in a one click function. You know what I want for my musical projects? A musician which can play anything, will adapt easily to any style I ask of him, works tirelessly, is a piece of software and is free at that. It's not available. The reason isn't that there isn't outstanding software on the market which is, in some way or another, free. If you look e.g. at web2.0 cms systems, the majority of these solutions (and allegedly the most powerful one) are open source. The reason is that (same as with typo3), you still need a guy who knows how to handle that thing. So I'll try again to give these suggestions which were ignored so far, and summarize them in a proper way: 1. The best step on the path to a nicely-sounding recording is the original source material. Go and read up what you can do - using equalization and compression on the source tracks (and you've really come a long way if you use a free plugin properly and won't need the pricey e.g. Algorithmix stuff), and if necessary by applying a motownesque approach. If that is accomplished, nobody ever uses e.g. enemy number one - the multiband compressor. (A lot of people tend to use them these days. The reason I avoid them is simply because they work in a way that is rather contrary to the way the human hearing works). And you also should never have to use a transient designer on the 2bus - same goes here: if you feel you have to use it, then something is wrong with your source material - like overcompressing it (and compression must not come from a dedicated compressor - one thing a guitar amp tends to do is compress, so working with the settings and - if used - miking of your guitar amp can bring you a long way as well). 2. Listen! How would you be able to do a good master if you can't (by lacking a proper listening equipment or proper training) judge yourself if it's good or not? Part one are proper speakers (and sorry, there's no way 'round spening money on those), part two is a proper room for listening - which can also be expensive, but there are second-best options - like use your bedroom and don't tidy up your bed. Get rid of those blinds which might resonate, and by combining well-known best practices (again, I'd suggest recording.org, but am open for other sources) and trial and error find the place where to place the speakers and yourself. Don't put them on a table - stands are in order, and keep distance to walls and floor. Another help are displays (like frequency analyzers, phase scopes and level meters). There are also free things available - I personally don't use them that much, simply because the meters which come with my (RME) hardware do what I need - including K-system level metering (again: digido.com). But these, like listening, are things you need to learn (see below). 3. Learn. This includes your tools (including your speakers), and how a well-done record sounds. Sit down and try to see what is the difference between e.g. Aenema (by Tool) and Hipnotize (by System of a Down). Listen to them on different systems (car stereo, portable mp3 player with good and bad phones, kitchen radio). Pay attention to listening fatigue - there are recordings similar in style which tend to tire you a lot after some period of listening, and others which don't. Then after listening, use the meters you've selected above, and see how a different sound translates to a different meter result. Why do some things with the same RMS level (and thus probably the same "loudness") sound vastly different (with regard to loudness) - check e.g. Part 2 of my Saturday performance against tracks from "Stadium Arcadium" (by the Red Hot Chili Peppers). Then learn your software weapons - experiment with compressors, with eqs and whatnot. Change the order and see what happens. Also when talking about mastering (I'm not talking about creative, sound-shaping compressor and eq use e.g. when mixing a multi-miced trapset), there's the same rule as with effects during mixing: the proper amount is found when you don't notice that it's there, only when it's missing. When training yourself, try to focus on a few selected devices. Nobody ever uses seven different compressors for mastering in rapid exchange. 4. Define your production flow. A good starting point are again well-known best practices - you can even search the archives here, there has been a long discussion a while back - one starts here http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma_hiliter/LDarchive/200708/msg01319.html?line=3#hilite). This production flow will most probably include the following facts: * which file format is required/preferred for start of the process? * which tools are used (effects chain etc.) * quality control etc. This will also include those presets you're looking for - and there's nothing wrong with starting with some presets supplied with your tools of choice and go from there. 4a. Level Practices: as I said, there's a reason why "level practices" exist. Read up on digido.com on that topic. 5. The business pov. So you've now reached a point where, with certain investments, you've implemented a proper mastering chain for home use, which includes monitors, processors and a trained engineer. According to economy theory, that training for the engineer was rather cheap and the the monitors rather expensive or just the other way round, depening on your financial situation. There may still be situations where what you get out of it is not enough - and for those you need a pro. However, I'd limit that to those releases which "really count". Summarizing: Sorry, there's really no way around investing shitloads of time and some money (other than letting all your mastering be done by a pro). If you're not willing or able to invest that, then the (mastering sound) quality of your recordings will not improve. Sorry. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 11:49:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 620DB3BE81; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:49:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 65966 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 11:48:59 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ufd/0ZPnKe/63jgtRFtJQcZ2vGRHkm9RGzGzn4VG4Y0=; b=iwhNX0epO4+K41bEszKaJPQXGxn/sVE4d6rSIWu4liQ66oktCJiK0W5PZxWmB3HWVp CXec/Y6OS8Zf3RUjQVSkgmgn+AdNNpvNKjqDRbudZZCN8P/6dZ1g0Aj8+45lJI07bMbg wfUsmQib7lZ8vW69ix3jRFJLPfqKok11+/PsY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=dCsbAhTZj6aeSqtaLobXDuVSmJ/UW/ihPQewk9MiCgcDWttRczRv7HPIgac2bKCkMK RV7iUpyr9He3OZWDubE72cXLw6XNKKClr/Xk9n2+InvNZjaZ4O8JOU17oHAup4aEYo/Q tzYNQRlOtl30Fv7W8dfh2FTYnMK/AeiBA0tdI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:48:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b9f80d33b6e046b5c206d Resent-Message-ID: <-Xt9-D.A.IkF.sGRJKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:49:00 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b9f80d33b6e046b5c206d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit well ok then...i thought my question might be too esoteric to be of much interest...but here goes...and it relates to Live 8 this is basically an extension of the rack>laptop thread i really like the plugins in Live and i'd like to use them in conjunction with my favourite AU plugins to replace my rack of fx i've successfully managed to put augustus loop and sooperlooper in a couple of aux channels and control them fine...it's the main fx chains that are giving me a headache ideally i'd like to set up one chain of fx with all the plugins i'll need and then just turn them on and off and recall a preset into the ones i want on, but Live wants me to chain up all the fx i want for a particular sound in a rack and recall that particular chain with a cc value. this gives me a couple of problems...one is that Live doesn't respond to program change messages (which my footcontroller sends out), but i've solved this by transforming these into cc messages by using MidiPipe. the other problem is the sheer number and complexity of the chains i'll need...maybe up to 60...and with many of those containing instances of Reaktor, the CPU load will be massive (i don't think Live behaves like Mainstage, effectively turning off plugins that aren't in use and saving on CPU...but i might be wrong). one solution may be to create racks out of the Live plugins, but not out of the AU plugins. most AU plugins allow their presets to be recalled via program change messages and both the PC and CC messages i'm sending are being received...but i can't seem to get Reaktor to respond when it's a plugin (the standalone behaves perfectly). anybody got any ideas how i can stay with a "preset" modus operandi and make it all work in Live? if Live turns off plugins that aren't currently loaded, then it should be fine and i'll try and experiment with this further, but if not i think i'm a bit stuck. i did play around with Bidule for a bit and yes, this kind of thing is a bit easier, but it seemed less stable at the latency settings i liked and it doesn't have the plugins that Live has cheers! sim --0016363b9f80d33b6e046b5c206d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well ok then...i thought my question might be too esoteric to be of much in= terest...but here goes...and it relates to Live 8

this is basically = an extension of the rack>laptop thread

i really like the plugins = in Live and i'd like to use them in conjunction with my favourite AU pl= ugins to replace my rack of fx

i've successfully managed to put augustus loop and sooperlooper in = a couple of aux channels and control them fine...it's the main fx chain= s that are giving me a headache

ideally i'd like to set up one c= hain of fx with all the plugins i'll need and then just turn them on and off and recall a preset into the ones i= want on, but Live wants me to chain up all the fx i want for a particular = sound in a rack and recall that particular chain with a cc value. this give= s me a couple of problems...one is that Live doesn't respond to program= change messages (which my footcontroller sends out), but i've solved t= his by transforming these into cc messages by using MidiPipe. the other pro= blem is the sheer number and complexity of the chains i'll need...maybe= up to 60...and with many of those containing instances of Reaktor, the CPU= load will be massive (i don't think Live behaves like Mainstage, effec= tively turning off plugins that aren't in use and saving on CPU...but i= might be wrong). one solution may be to create racks out of the Live plugi= ns, but not out of the AU plugins. most AU plugins allow their presets to b= e recalled via program change messages and both the PC and CC messages i= 9;m sending are being received...but i can't seem to get Reaktor to res= pond when it's a plugin (the standalone behaves perfectly).
anybody got any ideas how i can stay with a "preset" modus operan= di and make it all work in Live? if Live turns off plugins that aren't = currently loaded, then it should be fine and i'll try and experiment wi= th this further, but if not i think i'm a bit stuck.
i did play around with Bidule for a bit and yes, this kind of thing is a bi= t easier, but it seemed less stable at the latency settings i liked and it = doesn't have the plugins that Live has

cheers!

sim

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 12:33:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC6353BE79; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:33:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1791 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:33:42 UTC X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 08:03:38 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: LD: Your opinions please - Terratec Axon AX 50 In-Reply-To: <4A24DBAE.60900@tiscali.co.uk> References: <9445316AD31E43C6A77F834EF846E303@a> <4A241CA4.2030402@tiscali.co.uk> <20090601175117.59916s7t7s811h0c@www.wightman.ca> <4A24DBAE.60900@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20090602120351.1B31814DDB@ns4.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:33:42 +0000 (UTC) Of course it is possible that the pickup wasn't in an optimum position, I was playing it on a parker, pretty much up tight against the saddles. I did try it closer to the rear pickup and found the response worse, not much room for play there in any regards, the rear pickup is already quite close to the saddles. The graphtech p/u is pretty simple to install, you do have to drill holes and route out a cavity in your guitar, but the components all plug into each other. The only soldering was to connect grounds up to the pots. I did find one odd behavior, when playing through a roland vg 8ex, or the vg99 in altered tuning mode. The strat style bridge had the "ghost" sound of the original note still present but the wilkinson bridge didn't. I tried all sorts of things to stop vibrations from bleeding through to the other strings but was totally unsuccessful in stopping that from happening. It was only when I changed to the wilkinson bridge that I was able to make more use of the altered tuning modes. I've also been told that the new GK 3 pickup works well, but I haven't tried it yet. Paul Haslem >I'd be guessing the change of p/u caused the change in behaviour. >Is it possible your GK wasn't installed in the optimum position? > >:-) >so you guys got me wanting a graphtech p/u >( well, I really don't like the clunky GK 2a, ) > >andy butler > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 14:35:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C11D3BE79; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DcOc/HE1qVY8U6940KVAZdURdulbQKi1j2+eBzGbDr4=; b=A2ricKtaNp2NewUUkzfrkHB4id8syPIkMJZuxXNJcQTyxc2CogQfJrobIeQVn1jL4+ 3Jx7AsASMTzcI1j/hRX1XUdj9AjJfRVH5yfdvwo/BKpUHklb+wJWVwt3Y6uI3eeCTtn/ GE+5gf+QY5ZUYeA77M1WPnSi5Cdbb6BUeQj+U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=lCfg1LrAZ5Udxh/KyZ4g1LXSaFCxblhacYO8XKqw4eEgMZvT/8XaipWEzU70iLgN+i QNNYeUQ2Bncx+z0SUs0J11hFUoCQro9a4a4rSQa11utgphf9fHmuxlwVf19GchAJGO7v hJ9dRsIXD973cEe7WvlenYVXX+otbMbDQGKjE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:35:50 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8ab7e1b0b65d7b16 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:35:52 +0000 (UTC) The AU spec allows plug-ins to know if they're processing 'silence' and/or to tell subsequent plug-ins that their output is silent. Live supports this fine, and this is the usual method for saving CPU on plug-ins that aren't actually processing any input. However, it relies on the plug-ins actually implementing this - I'm sure many ignore it and just process the incoming audio regardless. In my Live rig I have a number of effects set up and then automate their on/off switch (top left of the Live unit for the plug-in). Seems to work fine. NB muting a chain in a rack is not the same as actually powering off the plug-ins in that chain. cheers, os. 2009/6/2 Simeon Harris : > well ok then...i thought my question might be too esoteric to be of much > interest...but here goes...and it relates to Live 8 > > this is basically an extension of the rack>laptop thread > > i really like the plugins in Live and i'd like to use them in conjunction > with my favourite AU plugins to replace my rack of fx > > i've successfully managed to put augustus loop and sooperlooper in a couple > of aux channels and control them fine...it's the main fx chains that are > giving me a headache > > ideally i'd like to set up one chain of fx with all the plugins i'll need > and then just turn them on and off and recall a preset into the ones i want > on, but Live wants me to chain up all the fx i want for a particular sound > in a rack and recall that particular chain with a cc value. this gives me a > couple of problems...one is that Live doesn't respond to program change > messages (which my footcontroller sends out), but i've solved this by > transforming these into cc messages by using MidiPipe. the other problem is > the sheer number and complexity of the chains i'll need...maybe up to > 60...and with many of those containing instances of Reaktor, the CPU load > will be massive (i don't think Live behaves like Mainstage, effectively > turning off plugins that aren't in use and saving on CPU...but i might be > wrong). one solution may be to create racks out of the Live plugins, but not > out of the AU plugins. most AU plugins allow their presets to be recalled > via program change messages and both the PC and CC messages i'm sending are > being received...but i can't seem to get Reaktor to respond when it's a > plugin (the standalone behaves perfectly). > anybody got any ideas how i can stay with a "preset" modus operandi and make > it all work in Live? if Live turns off plugins that aren't currently loaded, > then it should be fine and i'll try and experiment with this further, but if > not i think i'm a bit stuck. > i did play around with Bidule for a bit and yes, this kind of thing is a bit > easier, but it seemed less stable at the latency settings i liked and it > doesn't have the plugins that Live has > > cheers! > > sim > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From admin@mail.mectron.it Tue Jun 2 14:58:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from mail.mectron.it (host76-145-static.37-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it [88.37.145.76]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BF33BE77 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:58:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.mectron.it (Postfix, from userid 501) id 43B981BD2D3B; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:24:05 +0200 (CEST) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You have just received a virtual postcard from a friend ! 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On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk= > wrote:

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 15:23:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1540D3BE73; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:23:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mQ/VshV0zvhEebeDeA3FnB8EwOEIOk4IszKwIBQv9UY=; b=p+LuYT6/GKc9Kax/unfcgOkOIdkG29oFMgPPvU7HVhqJo18UStw3+WtOSHoGiCvhl1 3T5OD5wrFiZ18UZM8rUuVDVREs0D2LbdddkuTypgm+CN8dGXPYJokAl6vEpPdmFe+53V fRzjZbEhkGLDiw5R+rG2FMrw1LRoYqfmDmA28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=QooJX2kVh/UI4dj9cpCIqty1Mc1o5KuN52ajwEQKxw7aQ4glVZG41e/uMomGCcjvhX ITP68AXOiEgd9QwwPJc9D+J5ruSNQvJMZFV3W4CWMSY5MDsbKfaASyb141rwTrMliPSi 9Ac+HCN4jsBa/S9lIo0tihnGX5KJgifrf9QJw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:23:13 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 009fd7ad144d49e4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:23:15 +0000 (UTC) shouldn't be hard. you don't need to use a unique CC for each plug-in - Live lets you use a single CC to do multiple things at once. cheers, os. 2009/6/2 Simeon Harris : > in that case, what i might try is sending a cc message to any chain that > isn't being used to turn off all the plugins in the chain. when i recall a > chain, i can send another cc message to turn all the plugs in that chain on. > i think i can do this with midipipe, but i'll have to work out how...! > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Os wrote: >> >> NB muting a chain in a rack is not the same as actually powering off >> the plug-ins in that chain. >> >> > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 15:32:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCD013BE7F; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:32:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xEKaB6iAlIIAB/ya019+QZiT7T9y0SYrkdo3yGYFjVs=; b=FF9dTgJ3jv4LpAHoE3NFv8zQPDNAUZ1swnbzVf/e87rKw6q1yDZypomGff0HfT9esJ g0bWJevuxF+H30estrhNX/FlcgkO70yEM34Zzc0Bkg9VHmETBsy9E3K6lC710cnNJOVw es5ScDsqRuKLeCGny2+QCvw9ix7LUm1y4H3Ew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=XyfBUTeYsWbuWdagtIVW02kPzFayXu/Q6hUfINlHHJlB3FMP2YB/AqWVc6BHiUBO39 LsFBIcCBOBEzjQ7SuXt3XppZttmJMho4vv75M1z2xL+4VZljTipv9fPmF4YLlS2+0ipn xgF0RJqmKHdx8EzxNV9aqTydLw1nrakimlKp4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:32:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b9f80b23b46046b5f3f94 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:32:22 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b9f80b23b46046b5f3f94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yeah, i'll need to do it too. i just did a test where i duplicated a massive chain so there were three identical copies and then switched between them. no change in cpu usage. the only thing that made a difference was actually turning the plugins off i just discovered "hot swapping" a moment ago...wonder if this can be done via midi? would only need one chain then.... sim On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Os wrote: > shouldn't be hard. you don't need to use a unique CC for each plug-in > - Live lets you use a single CC to do multiple things at once. > > > > --0016363b9f80b23b46046b5f3f94 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yeah, i'll need to do it too. i just did a test where i duplicated a ma= ssive chain so there were three identical copies and then switched between = them. no change in cpu usage. the only thing that made a difference was act= ually turning the plugins off

i just discovered "hot swapping" a moment ago...wonder if thi= s can be done via midi? would only need one chain then....

sim

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk= > wrote:

shouldn't be = hard. you don't need to use a unique CC for each plug-in
- Live lets you use a single CC to do multiple things at once.

--0016363b9f80b23b46046b5f3f94-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 15:33:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 525B73BE84; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sVk8ToYe0quvQF9FhPVsvZL46EAZbLfUfw7r4wBhhOk=; b=RvdgwwFwqwloHEoKA7CKyqGd93/Z0+2eqG8mLLc9w0r7nXqfdEugLtDPs75Rp4rdVT sxjvMSZP9PQCvIKfjWNEifrvOs2xvCy15eyi3u6I8OAMi3+bhqFoiSQtF7+wtcE3pLE7 8E7gX6Ho6fQlXjk/7pwNNgXuCi0jleC+3p/Ew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=VBbSYsn/ZgbQKORI+sS7Puf+H1kKvHUUB6DMzIPIlCPQ/XswE6AuQcmV8mmorxmQQv IH4AHAI1P931lR+d8g+dVMEb1nsoOnOobDOGVxj56LRhPC9P5mta7kXRGIuZBJ9HPKBi XPkdROTh6mB3q1dMkTZGlzlR9lfaAYWLbgxBA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:33:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f5b10cf6ac73046b5f44d8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:33:51 +0000 (UTC) --001485f5b10cf6ac73046b5f44d8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sorry, i should add that i actually switched between a large chain and a small chain - no change in cpu usage. having three identical chains just tripled the cpu usage sim On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Simeon Harris wrote: > yeah, i'll need to do it too. i just did a test where i duplicated a > massive chain so there were three identical copies and then switched between > them. no change in cpu usage. the only thing that made a difference was > actually turning the plugins off > > i just discovered "hot swapping" a moment ago...wonder if this can be done > via midi? would only need one chain then.... > > sim > > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Os wrote: > >> shouldn't be hard. you don't need to use a unique CC for each plug-in >> - Live lets you use a single CC to do multiple things at once. >> >> >> >> > --001485f5b10cf6ac73046b5f44d8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sorry, i should add that i actually switched between a large chain and a sm= all chain - no change in cpu usage. having three identical chains just trip= led the cpu usage

sim

On Tue, Jun = 2, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> = wrote:

yeah, i'll ne= ed to do it too. i just did a test where i duplicated a massive chain so th= ere were three identical copies and then switched between them. no change i= n cpu usage. the only thing that made a difference was actually turning the= plugins off

i just discovered "hot swapping" a moment ago...wonder if thi= s can be done via midi? would only need one chain then....

sim
<= div>

On Tue, Jun = 2, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:

shouldn't be = hard. you don't need to use a unique CC for each plug-in
- Live lets you use a single CC to do multiple things at once.

--001485f5b10cf6ac73046b5f44d8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 16:07:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E43AC3BE85; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:07:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 205485292/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.166.148/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.166.148 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjcCAIvqJEpPRqaU/2dsb2JhbAAI0DWECwWIXg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,291,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="205485292" Message-ID: <4A25513C.5020403@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:20:12 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD: Your opinions please - Terratec Axon AX 50 References: <9445316AD31E43C6A77F834EF846E303@a> <4A241CA4.2030402@tiscali.co.uk> <20090601175117.59916s7t7s811h0c@www.wightman.ca> <4A24DBAE.60900@tiscali.co.uk> <243365ED8C3F450B80CA9105FF2307F5@a> In-Reply-To: <243365ED8C3F450B80CA9105FF2307F5@a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:07:34 +0000 (UTC) Did you try the Strat type or the SG type? and didn't you say you were getting the "midi" board, not the acoustic sim circuitry? Has anyone tried the SG style (autotune) variant? Refered to as Schaller on their site. Matthias told me the strat config is best for piezo, but he hasn't tried graphtech, ...and my guitars are both the Schaller type bridge, even the strat. if this goes on I could even get over my piezo-phobia :-) andy butler Ricky Graham wrote: > The Graphtech P/U are great, Andy. Very clean, I love the sound of the > piezos compared to my magnetics. It really has changed my guitar sound, > I hope for the better. > > I'm going to go with the AX50. I'll let you know how I get on. > > Cheers, > > Ricky > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:58 AM > Subject: Re: LD: Your opinions please - Terratec Axon AX 50 > > >> phaslem@wightman.ca wrote: >>> I had a yamaha G50 and was never very happy with the tracking. I was >>> using it with a roland GK 2 pickup after several months of playing >>> around with it finally gave up and sold it off on ebay. I recently >>> picked up an axion ax50 and using it with the same guitar, though I have >>> since installed a graphtech ghost pickup, and it is worlds apart >>> different from my experience with the G50. The tracking is instant and I >>> have had very little adjustments to make in my playing style. >> >> I've played with the AX100, and with the G50 with the *same* guitar >> and p/u. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 17:47:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5C0A3BE79; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 17:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: FS: Custom Loooper 4-way A/B/C/D/YY switch Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:47:23 -0700 References: <0B35E0FA-7000-42B3-A22C-D3645BCD6AF6@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 17:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Hey, Matt If you're still at all interested, please make me an offer; I'd really =20= like to move this quickly! Thanks! dpc On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:56 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Hi David, > > I might be into that - does it make a clicking sound in the audio > signal when switching channels? > > So if I'm reading this correctly, the signal first goes to the DC or > BA channels, from which you select D, C, B or A, right? > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:51 AM, David Coffin =20 > wrote: >> Greetings, and sorry about all the FS posts; hopefully, these'll =20 >> soon be >> over=85 >> >> I had David at loooper.com (not apparently still making stuff=85?) =20= >> make me a >> switch that sends an input out to any selectable combination of 4 >> destinations; a picture's here: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/n26dfh >> >> I used it to access 4 different modeling multiFX, each of which fed =20= >> a mixer, >> so they didn't have to be returned to the loooper. I ran it with a =20= >> standard >> Boss power adapter, but also had a battery clip installed on the =20 >> outside in >> case I ever wanted to run it by battery, in which case the six =20 >> screws on the >> back-plate would have seemed punitive to me=85 This could easily be >> removed/repositioned inside. The paint-job was my only =20 >> disappointment with >> the unit; it seems to flake at the wimpiest of brushes with other =20 >> things=85 >> >> I don't need it any more, so it's FS; first to you guys, then off =20 >> to ebay=85 >> >> I'd like to get $135 for it, plus shipping. >> >> Thanks! >> dpc >> 1096 Winchuck River Road >> Brookings, OR 97415 >> 541-728-0634 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 17:47:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C67AA3BE85; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 17:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1243964857; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=PoP6FSxjiFkJmkv9YLQWmXads1w=; b=kSBe/OjnzdUjXaBXDuKkLWSEqWd7HKzx9h2ik3jUiMOtXiZCZslxfhlpZA5JbYml fvP1nWF90UcBDWM9B1MMPC8Yz8YznyEECQNmcT9eydQ7ckfDHABKrlA6NIz+t9lh; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=znDSlf124JgA:10 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=ggIEg0-TAAAA:8 a=ABCFGiWjAAAA:8 a=79uw9yc6zwaa4hmd--kA:9 a=ApArL8L80ErtTQuVcksA:7 a=E3rCLWBSLpeCQkvzkXpk0vvD7RwA:4 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=pQOnLMMWf_4A:10 a=zTLiqvP9iuQA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=xuoriNbUtDqgIAK9:21 a=oG0tI4v6vRhyH8X5:21 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 13:47:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Embarq Customer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <811331488.1961761243964856939.JavaMail.root@md18.embarq.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0906020353s16dcce6cn627be6c9bd4394ff@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: mastering plug ins MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [71.53.239.58] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.11_GA_2696.RHEL4 (zclient/5.0.11_GA_2696.RHEL4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 17:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Rainer my friend, Of course you know that my tounge was planted firmly in my cheek when I made that statment. :) That said I do belive what you say insofar as I understand it. I don't know anything about multiband this or thats! My use of software goes like this: I record (now in 24 bit) leaving plenty of headroom. I like to leave lots of room for dynamics, meaning I can't be sure of all my levels in random buttons and configs with my hardware gear. Then I save the file and proceed to clip out the good bits etc. saving each as a seperate file. Now for processing I usually sample a bit of noise and the do a noise reduction run on it. I might also at this time adjust levels in the recording as needed. I may or may not do some eq on it then using whatever. I am getting weak here. I try out all the other stuff but it's just at random and mostly don't like the results. Maybe a little eq works out. Ignorance is not bliss here. I despir of under I then normalize to -3db, make a mp3s and shoot them up on the web. Simple! But I know it's not the "right" way to do this. I am just ignorant. on speakers, I have some M-Audio studiopro 3. Small deaktop monitors that don't look near as good as the ones you suggested but they sound ok. the final tests are in my Jeep on my kind of crappy, not even high end audio system. My recordings sound thin compared to real cds and such with not as much presense I guess you could say, but they are"ok". Also I check on boomboxes and as many stereos as I can find. Most of my music is not being played on high end systems. it is being played on computer speakers and Ipods, etc. My recordings sound weak there also, no balls! I don't mean loudness here either. It's that missing thing that I am trying to improve. They sound just ok :( I am sorry if I don't make sense but to paraphrase McCoy, Damnit Jim, i'm a musician not an engineer! I guess I need a little of all of it these days though with all the possibilities for self production etc. I am willing to learn (arrgh) new tricks if I can. Thanks for the honesty and info. I'll take all the help I can get to bring this old dog into the new ways. Best, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 06:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: mastering plug ins > What I want is a free plugin with presets ya know? Mastering of all the best sounding recordings in a one click function. You know what I want for my musical projects? A musician which can play anything, will adapt easily to any style I ask of him, works tirelessly, is a piece of software and is free at that. It's not available. The reason isn't that there isn't outstanding software on the market which is, in some way or another, free. If you look e.g. at web2.0 cms systems, the majority of these solutions (and allegedly the most powerful one) are open source. The reason is that (same as with typo3), you still need a guy who knows how to handle that thing. So I'll try again to give these suggestions which were ignored so far, and summarize them in a proper way: 1. The best step on the path to a nicely-sounding recording is the original source material. Go and read up what you can do - using equalization and compression on the source tracks (and you've really come a long way if you use a free plugin properly and won't need the pricey e.g. Algorithmix stuff), and if necessary by applying a motownesque approach. If that is accomplished, nobody ever uses e.g. enemy number one - the multiband compressor. (A lot of people tend to use them these days. The reason I avoid them is simply because they work in a way that is rather contrary to the way the human hearing works). And you also should never have to use a transient designer on the 2bus - same goes here: if you feel you have to use it, then something is wrong with your source material - like overcompressing it (and compression must not come from a dedicated compressor - one thing a guitar amp tends to do is compress, so working with the settings and - if used - miking of your guitar amp can bring you a long way as well). 2. Listen! How would you be able to do a good master if you can't (by lacking a proper listening equipment or proper training) judge yourself if it's good or not? Part one are proper speakers (and sorry, there's no way 'round spening money on those), part two is a proper room for listening - which can also be expensive, but there are second-best options - like use your bedroom and don't tidy up your bed. Get rid of those blinds which might resonate, and by combining well-known best practices (again, I'd suggest recording.org, but am open for other sources) and trial and error find the place where to place the speakers and yourself. Don't put them on a table - stands are in order, and keep distance to walls and floor. Another help are displays (like frequency analyzers, phase scopes and level meters). There are also free things available - I personally don't use them that much, simply because the meters which come with my (RME) hardware do what I need - including K-system level metering (again: digido.com). But these, like listening, are things you need to learn (see below). 3. Learn. This includes your tools (including your speakers), and how a well-done record sounds. Sit down and try to see what is the difference between e.g. Aenema (by Tool) and Hipnotize (by System of a Down). Listen to them on different systems (car stereo, portable mp3 player with good and bad phones, kitchen radio). Pay attention to listening fatigue - there are recordings similar in style which tend to tire you a lot after some period of listening, and others which don't. Then after listening, use the meters you've selected above, and see how a different sound translates to a different meter result. Why do some things with the same RMS level (and thus probably the same "loudness") sound vastly different (with regard to loudness) - check e.g. Part 2 of my Saturday performance against tracks from "Stadium Arcadium" (by the Red Hot Chili Peppers). Then learn your software weapons - experiment with compressors, with eqs and whatnot. Change the order and see what happens. Also when talking about mastering (I'm not talking about creative, sound-shaping compressor and eq use e.g. when mixing a multi-miced trapset), there's the same rule as with effects during mixing: the proper amount is found when you don't notice that it's there, only when it's missing. When training yourself, try to focus on a few selected devices. Nobody ever uses seven different compressors for mastering in rapid exchange. 4. Define your production flow. A good starting point are again well-known best practices - you can even search the archives here, there has been a long discussion a while back - one starts here http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma_hiliter/LDarchive/200708/msg01319.html?line=3#hilite). This production flow will most probably include the following facts: * which file format is required/preferred for start of the process? * which tools are used (effects chain etc.) * quality control etc. This will also include those presets you're looking for - and there's nothing wrong with starting with some presets supplied with your tools of choice and go from there. 4a. Level Practices: as I said, there's a reason why "level practices" exist. Read up on digido.com on that topic. 5. The business pov. So you've now reached a point where, with certain investments, you've implemented a proper mastering chain for home use, which includes monitors, processors and a trained engineer. According to economy theory, that training for the engineer was rather cheap and the the monitors rather expensive or just the other way round, depening on your financial situation. There may still be situations where what you get out of it is not enough - and for those you need a pro. However, I'd limit that to those releases which "really count". Summarizing: Sorry, there's really no way around investing shitloads of time and some money (other than letting all your mastering be done by a pro). If you're not willing or able to invest that, then the (mastering sound) quality of your recordings will not improve. Sorry. Best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 18:29:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90EC13BE7C; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 18:29:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 381 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:29:24 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pw8Qy4Rfb0RUQlYxcYvr4HVKwMp4lOojMSCVXiDJ75s=; b=KPtCbSyjHYhUvtnekWEGtHTttheMwHX4ft8kx7JMy46RK7CkcoC0tnsTV4OYJVl55X 5x4sK5ngRR9DYzHDyKkCc/3S2KdVzhNESPp/uvfu29SQdOJAI4laO/ksHHKnAe5iQqpJ 47u7K1zICEyvwiYAHM/dQMyVrSAU5WeYrzWLo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ercgzODHCm69eWBMJxhT8sQWcUVUBfHytWz3LZURalMMzWJnAduTPHcUqjnmtD8uvM gjW0ca1f5Rsi3Gq3FkMW3pIUQhTwxQFIGE1zREi/NlXBcLDW6Hpn+ORGLV1eno+YECr1 79kCXUZR4tWMM514h6K1HiMmJqje79w1vBL8w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <811331488.1961761243964856939.JavaMail.root@md18.embarq.synacor.com> References: <7334ca1b0906020353s16dcce6cn627be6c9bd4394ff@mail.gmail.com> <811331488.1961761243964856939.JavaMail.root@md18.embarq.synacor.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:22:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mastering plug ins From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 18:29:24 +0000 (UTC) I'd get a copy of Bob Katz's Mastering Audio book. and go watch these... http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3D8A1C06E2208FAE0E&search_query=3Db= ob+katz On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Embarq Customer wro= te: > Rainer my friend, > > Of course you know that my tounge was planted firmly in my cheek when I m= ade that statment. :) > > That said I do belive what you say insofar as I understand it. I don't kn= ow anything about multiband this or thats! > My use of software goes like this: I record (now in 24 bit) leaving plent= y of headroom. I like to leave lots of room for dynamics, meaning I can't b= e sure of all my levels in random buttons and configs with my hardware gear= . > Then I save the file and proceed to clip out the good bits etc. saving ea= ch as a seperate file. > > Now for processing I usually sample a bit of noise and the do a noise red= uction run on it. I might also at this time adjust levels in the recording = as needed. I may or may not do some eq on it then using whatever. I am gett= ing weak here. I try out all the other stuff but it's just at random and mo= stly don't like the results. Maybe a little eq works out. Ignorance is not = bliss here. I despir of under > > I then normalize to -3db, make a mp3s and shoot them up on the web. Simpl= e! But I know it's not the "right" way to do this. I am just ignorant. > > on speakers, I have some M-Audio studiopro 3. Small deaktop monitors that= don't look near as good as the ones you suggested but they sound ok. the f= inal tests are in my Jeep on my kind of crappy, not even high end audio sys= tem. My recordings sound thin compared to real cds and such with not as muc= h presense I guess you could say, but they are"ok". Also I check on boombox= es and as many stereos as I can find. Most of my music is not being played = on high end systems. it is being played on computer speakers and Ipods, etc= . My recordings sound weak there also, no balls! I don't mean loudness here= either. It's that missing thing that I am trying to improve. They sound ju= st ok :( > > I am sorry if I don't make sense but to paraphrase McCoy, Damnit Jim, i'm= a musician not an engineer! I guess I need a little of all of it these day= s though with all the possibilities for self production etc. I am willing t= o learn (arrgh) new tricks if I can. > > Thanks for the honesty and info. I'll take all the help I can get to brin= g this old dog into the new ways. > > Best, > > Jeff > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 19:28:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 093023BE7C; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 19:28:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=W5liDl4AvUHP3FWQrM/1c3Czh/Y2fttyXCo4OCjJ1xo=; b=RHLEvenEspUo3SQMgL4hptfjPo9JkvYZa+2OHgfYs31U5/pAoIdGHyoOg3VuCcQOOu xgMJOmZjdt4PPJmUcTt4x6Eq65e48lo/Jms5FY5quSDzkveIP/oxA6FPi4i0tyw/G+rP KsAFeXWhXTpVy91j5i8dGcysc/B50hnFzCfbc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=mLTbMnBxEFROHYWZ3CpUMjGo/cj2s/ZIMgkcw4/CuFzDKj89keLsdaiJbVa3eY5d4h hHoKLK/n7KSb32Ugu4s+IE+1zBhEWkUS3r23YWcM5GHZFG7rPY3g+hC37wj9CWZ9vFHh MgSseo9ivhV43lN9p97c0yd135rG0y3OLT8vQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4A25546F.30202@tiscali.co.uk> References: <9445316AD31E43C6A77F834EF846E303@a> <4A241CA4.2030402@tiscali.co.uk> <20090601175117.59916s7t7s811h0c@www.wightman.ca> <4A24DBAE.60900@tiscali.co.uk> <243365ED8C3F450B80CA9105FF2307F5@a> <4A25513C.5020403@tiscali.co.uk> <4A25546F.30202@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:28:02 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e4186ae878f3b170 Message-ID: <101191640906021228v3c78356yf172a7e2ac68d5b8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: LD: Your opinions please - Terratec Axon AX 50 From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016361e88808ea7f3046b628ac1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 19:28:03 +0000 (UTC) --0016361e88808ea7f3046b628ac1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have to say, the guitar makes a huge difference. The Godin Freeway SA I got last year improved the tracking of my GR-33 immeasurably. -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --0016361e88808ea7f3046b628ac1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have to say, the guitar makes a huge difference. The Godin Freeway SA I g= ot last year improved the tracking of my GR-33 immeasurably.

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 20:00:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB1BB3BE81; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 20:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1243972843; bh=IIy8kStvvUAnpaMIg4QAJU5I5QfTr5SOM0sPpGFZbgk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cyQ2nxGtouNiw48bLnAjLBCX5gASvFaC92j4YYDF17uvwyweshaCaB5bEM89Z4ljI1l9vaSHPaRLraclfpJiNyMwK/4sNWCUL08CccHkiiCqMEpt3IXfETrarXAwGlse9eDwKmWw1e2lS3aVLw3Q1B0rm4P50LyBhlG1o8cPnqU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zfGtWQlAvBqCvCwKhwSmCpv+elbm8knLlXkUsZsFv8Uii2qH58l2oWtQg2/MzsU9Aq/DrUfbdqCBLq9+wk0Kn8oTZJG/DH2jzgai8VrpeS2RjkWy8j1fdzO1xyWG8uipLvHj+YpVR7cm2hccZVcZjIHdmdxNrhaSt098YKkGk/M=; Message-ID: <409858.59337.qm@web24614.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Myy08mAVM1lIiwJNOkwNHv4xd0qmBQuBSe6FjzTzL2PPVnoZ52EPJPYIJvbV2gNCZx.3LzsWrA.e0.Y5cbpYo2S_uuzx2A6muHSpvhcK2bTwY2pR4F4ji.DHuzxq81JSrEIEZtvoCvAqQdGTIQAMHxrZzkvrvLn9WEXBQx320CU0bSeIz3i1D9ZYK_4YZfL0mzGx161CWkZnvzmK6NI.X.5lrIVcH7bHRCsEVsCWg9EH6WKatoneSbN.Udo2K8BUBoOnmeiZ9rMkKJF6cqMg_SyQkIzo4f5lBmmFQWdUPizlXQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 13:00:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest - video To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1xTH5B.A.MQ.sTYJKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 20:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Listening and watching now. Just about to crank the volume to 11 for the f= inal piece.=0A=0ASuperb set so far, really enjoying it.=0A=0AStephen=0Awww.= myspace.com/sylvianfisher=0A=0A=0A--- On Tue, 2/6/09, Os wrote:=0A=0A> From: Os =0A> Subject: Antwerp Loopf= est - video=0A> To: "Loopers Delight" = =0A> Date: Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 7:31 PM=0A> Hi,=0A> =0A> the Darkroom set= from the Antwerp Loopfest is here:=0A> http://vimeo.com/4960054=0A> =0A> N= B this isn't the official video - it's footage I took on=0A> my own=0A> cam= corder, mixed with audio I recorded on my laptop. I=0A> imagine the=0A> off= icial video will be much higher quality!=0A> =0A> We played three pieces, e= ach about 8 minutes long.=0A> =0A> Play loud! Especially the last bit.=0A> = =0A> Also photos (of everyone, not just Darkroom) are here:=0A> http://www.= flickr.com/groups/antwerp_loopfest_2009/=0A> =0A> =0A> cheers,=0A> os.=0A> = =0A> -- =0A> os@collective.co.uk=0A> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/=0A> ht= tp://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 20:08:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FC753BE79; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 20:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1243973280; bh=ygvbYvcwwqDrpzCEREBjAowLXWPUKxra+1gyBsqtTEk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=l56iqRpzQLI7GknQxYoHpBxXoAkcwBihTW+vT4hNwL+KX6qEv6IuREyz56F8+FM80yL0Cm692Mt86VSkri0h1fDzW+BzyFrjsXajOLtRxrHwZlh11ZeEwLCaeJ4/KaChwUWYqKBBfQcpt0OhkbQkV1R09jpWe6dpkbdKI5uXUm4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=a7c2zQkXxH2v5icVzD1ffPmscWPpgkdD2Cpu3/uVCjg8X2Nw8sAOAcLFHeuwBB5QHVL1EZiciGzkVL6sPtTsvqxy1uHNNF4czHEr9gxHph3LC9ixKm0xPnkqSMNhh5ME5t3cauK8DF55FmZlDu69v/arhdABFt3GJwAkBDlxU+Q=; Message-ID: <620090.62304.qm@web24614.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: H_u79YIVM1mOsB36DxAq0Fh0qbtcxhPMo3FYqRAQ.Hu6hNnmq7RqqtmuPE7cPL73Yt0cg1Z3YzQ.G16jQMOXPJwqReGyCHucHQNNL.aMHyCFgr_q4rPSr.uyEA4dT9J9ds4N6z6sAK8lk9LE7mY.KC1WVmKF8YyrjRJeb.fAgTOgZ9eFcbfLGfaaJC1dighpkY8_pOQ0DSukT7dGlLFm6iXGuMNiLIQ6Jsp7ySV7683aqYGFgyzC_33tAdYQWpblVoFlfQlMx7cGar8LFi8lrqNkURhOcdDbXEyC3mTrPWIMc9r.82TDYYjIJA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 13:07:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest - video To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 20:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Without wishing to appear naive or stupid (but probably appearing both naiv= e and stupid simultaneously), is that really a vibrator that Michael is usi= ng to excite his strings during that last piece?=0A=0AStephen=0Awww.myspace= .com/sylvianfisher=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 21:09:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 885983BE75; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 21:09:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:08:29 -0400 Subject: Preset Dump/Midi Saving? Message-ID: <09D1173F.7EA9.45C8.B908.00495833EF5B@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Pantomime 1.2.0) From: donearlsto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <32d3193b8898f7c6c87fc92821132a22@charter.net> X-Mailer: Pantomime (ADM 559) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_8E606324.08E0.4EBA.A3C9.B5C808F1FD65@aol.com" X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.199 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: <0zhfLB.A.YIC.JUZJKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 21:09:29 +0000 (UTC) --=_8E606324.08E0.4EBA.A3C9.B5C808F1FD65@aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello,=A0 I have been on and off list for some years, and have a slightly off topic= question about saving data from my midi controller and effects unit.=A0 I have two pieces of equipment: =A0a Rocktron Prophesy and an All Access= Midi Controller..=A0 I would like to save the settings from these two pieces of equipment, shou= ld I ever need to reprogram the equipment...or should I ever need to replace them.=A0 My question is:=A0 Isn't there a way I can connect from the MIDI out of these devices, direct= ly to my =A0computer (Mac), and thus save the information directly on my laptop? =A0Thereby allowing me to load the data= in the future directly from my laptop? =A0=A0 If so...what hardware and software would I need for this? I am looking for= economical, and able to travel easily....my concern is having to re-program on the road. =A0 Thank you in advance, Donovan Stokes=A0 PS: =A0Also, if you are in near Penn State on Thursday, June 11 at 2 pm I= am doing a loop based concert at the Pavillion Theatre.=A0 --=_8E606324.08E0.4EBA.A3C9.B5C808F1FD65@aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hello,=A0

I have bee= n on and off list for some years, and have a slightly off topic question= about saving data from my midi controller and effects unit.=A0

I have two pieces of equipment: =A0= a Rocktron Prophesy and an All Access Midi Controller..=A0

I would like to save the settings from th= ese two pieces of equipment, should I ever need to reprogram the equipment= ...or should

I ever need to replace them.= =A0

My question is:=A0

I= sn't there a way I can connect from the MIDI out of these devices, directl= y to my =A0computer (Mac), and thus save the
information directly on= my laptop? =A0Thereby allowing me to load the data in the future directly= from my laptop?
=A0=A0
If so...what hardware and software would I= need for this? I am looking for economical, and able to travel easily....= my concern is having to
re-program on the road. =A0

Thank you= in advance,
Donovan Stokes=A0

PS: =A0Also, if you are in near Penn State on Thursday, June 11 at 2 pm= I am doing a loop based concert at the Pavillion Theatre.=A0

--=_8E606324.08E0.4EBA.A3C9.B5C808F1FD65@aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 22:02:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CE443BE75; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:02:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a9822e9b-b866-4025-8340-5502f6eac55e_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Antwerp Loopfest - video Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:02:41 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jun 2009 22:02:41.0580 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9A156C0:01C9E3CD] Resent-Message-ID: <63CbhC.A.4WD.CGaJKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:02:42 +0000 (UTC) --_a9822e9b-b866-4025-8340-5502f6eac55e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds really good=2C I enjoy it a lot. Is it totally improvised or do you = have "songs" or anything preconceived to start from? =20 Thanks for a lot of enjoyable listning.. =20 Anders www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl =20 > Date: Tue=2C 2 Jun 2009 20:31:11 +0100 > Subject: Antwerp Loopfest - video > From: os@collective.co.uk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hi=2C >=20 > the Darkroom set from the Antwerp Loopfest is here: > http://vimeo.com/4960054 >=20 > NB this isn't the official video - it's footage I took on my own > camcorder=2C mixed with audio I recorded on my laptop. I imagine the > official video will be much higher quality! >=20 > We played three pieces=2C each about 8 minutes long. >=20 > Play loud! Especially the last bit. >=20 > Also photos (of everyone=2C not just Darkroom) are here: > http://www.flickr.com/groups/antwerp_loopfest_2009/ >=20 >=20 > cheers=2C > os. >=20 > --=20 > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ >=20 --_a9822e9b-b866-4025-8340-5502f6eac55e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds really good=2C I enjoy it a lot. Is it totally improvised or do you = have "songs" or anything preconceived to start from?
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Thanks for =3Ba lot of enjoyable listning..
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Anders
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>=3B Date: Tue=2C 2 Jun 2009 20:31:11 +010= 0
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>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
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>= =3B Hi=2C
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>=3B the Darkroom set from the Antwerp Loopfest i= s here:
>=3B http://vimeo.com/4960054
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>=3B NB this isn= 't the official video - it's footage I took on my own
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>=3B We played three= pieces=2C each about 8 minutes long.
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>=3B Play loud! Espec= ially the last bit.
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>=3B http://www.flickr.com/groups/antwerp_loopf= est_2009/
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>=3B os.
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>=3B os@collective.co.uk
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>=3B http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/
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= --_a9822e9b-b866-4025-8340-5502f6eac55e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 2 22:30:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D51F03BE77; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 656 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:30:58 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <620090.62304.qm@web24614.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <620090.62304.qm@web24614.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Michael Bearpark Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest - video Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 23:19:08 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=U0HbiYByEwKZdCRmKb4A:9 a=mW0qgQSRn8xZkm4qhyHCCdt0Qf4A:4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Hi Stephen, As it's a list for consenting adults, I can explain... ... it's a bubble machine. Seriously. Without the bubbles though. Basically a foam rubber fan... highly recommended! Anders, there was a plan for who'd start each segment, suggested key +bpm, and Os - who loops the guitar - had some effects chains set up. But apart from that, nothing prepared. Big thank-you to Sjaak for giving us the opportunity! The setting definitely helped. Mike On 2 Jun 2009, at 21:07, Stephen Scott wrote: > > Without wishing to appear naive or stupid (but probably appearing > both naive and stupid simultaneously), is that really a vibrator > that Michael is using to excite his strings during that last piece? > > Stephen > www.myspace.com/sylvianfisher > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 00:07:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E97EA3BE77; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 00:07:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <09D1173F.7EA9.45C8.B908.00495833EF5B@aol.com> References: <09D1173F.7EA9.45C8.B908.00495833EF5B@aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:07:11 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Preset Dump/Midi Saving? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <2Mi11C.A.zfE.26bJKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 00:07:18 +0000 (UTC) At 5:08 PM -0400 6/2/09, donearlsto wrote: > >I have two pieces of equipment: a Rocktron Prophesy and an All >Access Midi Controller.. >I would like to save the settings from these two pieces of equipment.... > >Isn't there a way I can connect from the MIDI out of these devices, >directly to my computer (Mac), and thus save the information >directly on my laptop? Thereby allowing me to load the data in the >future directly from my laptop? Well, the good news is: Yes, this is fairly common. What you're referring to is called a SysEx Dump. You simply connect your device via MIDI to your computer, begin recording on your sequencing program, and start the dump. Your sequencer will record it just as any other MIDI, and then you can play back the dump to restore the patches to your device. The bad news is: SysEx Dump HAS TO BE SUPPORTED FROM THE HARDWARE DEVICE. Since you'd be initiating the dump from your Prophesy or All Access, either/both of those two devices have to support SysEx. Many devices, especially controllers, don't bother with dump support. You're going to need to pore through the manuals for your MIDI controllers. Search for anything referring to System Exclusive (SysEx) information. If you can find something on this, you've just taken the first step toward accomplishing your task. Likewise, if you can't find anything, then you're most likely going to have to do it the hard way: with a pencil and paper, writing down all your settings for each patch. Ganbatte! --m. -- _____ "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of murder... later" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 01:35:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 805093BE79; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 01:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EqhWrTs8T8m+NmlECQX7VTfGq9lGpCyMRfvKoaxdhcA=; b=Kyv/7+7KRGBsU2JacDx3f7v53oNcbhXoD/jUXNxRv8aAoiOyqp4jZ6ntnwMTwGMsvq k0jQFrd8yrHt8wPNSbfWXdg960sr2NLPiOuavTpBGmVlrBHwEtR5kuOAOzxmJE34jqfo sNwhd2yVRexsmqfwBt2NXpL+FW51rc3F20vfQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NsuNDZnqGY0i5nqv7h8N9r8+d8hI9kY6BuOZlhiXoLEaAOhdXGG5SDnsoWznWhWReW uY6o5rjItZtBoXh6OX8+cQdIfpI3vZ1NEIY5aVlfXzqBEg8qY4lXeGSfkRGG3mAkVJgK Ex3x+EMFMQm9woKSci2nwbx3qzMmgFvtzd05I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 18:35:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: blech (pedal choices) From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 01:35:53 +0000 (UTC) So, I'm idly looking into expanding my looping setup, since I'm starting to feel the limits of the looper in my Line 6 DL-4. (Mostly that 15 seconds at normal speed is too short.) So I just spent an hour looking at what else is out there and I'm feeling a bit discouraged. What I'm looking for in a looper: --Simple & easy to use. --at least 30 seconds of looping time --Lets me pick start and end points while recording. (Will not try to autocorrect my timing, or make me choose loop length before I start.) --Reverse function --Half Speed function (or even better - a speed dial!) --Lets me choose # of repeats when not infinite. --Will not drive up the cost of the pedal with stuff I'll never use. --smaller than a hardcover book As far as I can tell, this does not exist. The closest I find is a DL-4, which is very easy to use, but as I mentioned, the looping time is short and I can't control the # of repeats. It's also heavy enough that I don't want to walk around with 2 of them. I'm pretty disappointed in the concept of the Line 6 JM-4. It costs more and doesn't appear to offer more of the stuff I want. Instead it offers me the opportunity to play with imaginary musicians, which frankly I find insulting. Has anyone used one of these? If you don't store loops, how long can a live loop be? Can you get rid of all the dumb preset tracks? Is it otherwise as simple as the DL-4? How about the LoopStation (RC-20)? How long of a loop can you get if you don't store anything? Does it have half speed/reverse? Not looking for rack mounts, software or large pedal boards. I have to fit all my gear in a rolling suitcase on public transit. 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Please write back if interested.Contact Via Email: mike_loanoffer009@yahoo.com.hk Thanks ________________________________________________ Esta mensagem foi enviada usando NeoMail - O Webmail da Neobiz. http://www.neobiz.com.br From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 01:52:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 685833BE77; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 01:52:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 10:52:24 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 01:52:30 +0000 (UTC) At 12:48 PM +0100 6/2/09, Simeon Harris wrote: > >i really like the plugins in Live and i'd like to use them in >conjunction with my favourite AU plugins to replace my rack of fx Sim, I see you've gotten some fine advice from Os (I'll especially concur with his recommendation for turning plugs on/off to save CPU). Here's another $.02. I've been using Live as my primary host for quite some time, since Live 4. (I keep attempting to get away from it. But every time I find an alternative, I put it through a CPU usage test and Live beats it. By now, I've almost given up trying.) I took Live's racks through their paces a couple of software revisions ago, then chucked the idea. I'm not saying that's what you should do, but here's my alternate approach. As always, YMMV. :) I use almost all my effects in Send/Return channels. Why? Because I frequently swap around the order of many effects, and found that shoehorning that functionality into a rack was a pain. I later abandoned racks entirely. The brilliant thing about the Return channels is that each of these channels contains the same Sends as an Input channel strip. So you can feed one Return channel into any of the next channels. I then turn effects routings on or off by simply using CC messages to control the Send amounts on each channel (0 for off; 128 for full on; and anything in between). Of course, if I'm not using an effect, I'll also send a parallel message to turn it off completely, to save CPU. Additionally, at the end of the row, I'll create one extra Send/Return with no effects on it whatsoever. I'll turn all the channels to pre-fader, with the exception of this channel and the Master. I can then use this channel as a pre-mix sub to tap the output of any other channel before it goes to the next in the chain. For some reason, it often seems easier to use this than juggle the track fader on the input channel. So I'll usually put the input channel to "Sends Only" and use this to mix the dry signal too. You've got a great deal of flexibility with this architecture, IMNSHO. Not only can you switch the effects order on the fly, you can also split and recombine effect chains at any point on the fly (you want both delay and reverb on a line without 'delay --> reverb' or 'reverb --> delay'? Easy.) As I mentioned above, you can tap any effect into the final mix at any point, too, and in any proportion. Don't forget, these are knobs, not switches. You don't have to use 100% on or off for any effect, but rather mix the amount you want very easily in real time. The other advantage of this (which isn't immediately obvious) is that you can also set up feedback chains. You can mix a portion of an effect back into itself to thicken of effect it further. Live's reverb, for instance, is wonderful. I love it. However, you can hear it become even more lush by feeding about 20% of its input back into itself. Although I probably need to mention watching your levels here, or the effect can run away with you. Additionally, I've found it pretty easy to fire off MIDI clips to control the Send levels (amongst other things) of each effect. You can come up with some wild synchronized effects by using clips to blast audio into different effects on different beats. Or, you can come up with some insane tremolo-ized effects by automating the Send on and off faster than you could ever humanly work a foot pedal. And of course you don't really have to limit yourself to one effect per channel. If, for instance, you *always* use a compressor with a particular delay, you might as well marry them together on one channel. Doing it this way made it easier for me to control; at least to my little dinosaur brain. This was not for any real added functionality (you can access everything just as easily in racks as like this). But I could look over and *see* most of what was happening. Racks just seemed to obscure too much information for my liking. So, that's one suggestion. I just find this architecture easier and more transparent than jerking around with racks. Perhaps you may consider a hybrid too, with both racks and Send/Return paths. This is merely what worked best for me, but it is one more option to think about. --m. -- _____ "we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guide" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 02:09:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A48CB3BE79; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 02:09:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=0F2BEdMf1qRKKz6IYDvP6ETafMEjPXpGMLfgI0x9QA8=; b=SpajJUT+q6AHiab+2NyVjk2zSdewX1yqcBZIXM7TUMuGcxuuBlZniHZsOQ8wjsvFfu 6r9x5hGt/AF27J8Eju5c31wVUMUivUSi1wa737kW1SDeiLQVffFLimnnsX8E97/jOKZf nNg5LP2+s38mFder8lhUx2/1b9kE8pJdCbsF0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=RF5XAoMDsurCwaW0CPD9c5bce3Noi2xHMqmnONpRvu13+rAvB90RJXvAzwD8eu8EcV Hvk5DDvzzuOG2jUI/nTmDF7FtcOOymB1IdrLRJMvhaxkkL3GcZ5kcniUj1ZE5EQD76Px PtWWQeeDoDlzrOSOd0J5zqAhZ4TEQ5k5QsaBk= Message-Id: <3DBF9592-6A4B-48F2-A7D9-84972879FEAB@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7--600204848 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 19:09:27 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 02:09:25 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7--600204848 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Jun 2, 2009, at 6:35 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > How about the LoopStation (RC-20)? How long of a loop can you get if > you don't store anything? Does it have half speed/reverse? The original RC-20 lists the phrase limit as 5 min 30 sec. It has reverse but no half speed. I have seen them selling used at good prices. They are solid and sturdy but this makes them rather heavy. regards BobC http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier5 --Apple-Mail-7--600204848 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Jun 2, 2009, = at 6:35 PM, Matt Davignon wrote:

How about the LoopStation (RC-20)? = How long of a loop can you get if
you don't store anything? Does it = have half speed/reverse?

The = original RC-20 lists the phrase limit as 5 min 30 = sec.

It has reverse but no half speed.

I have = seen them selling used at good prices.

They are solid = and sturdy but this makes them rather = heavy.

regards

BobC

http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier5

= --Apple-Mail-7--600204848-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 02:13:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1992B3BE7E; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 02:13:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:12:47 -0400 Subject: Re: Preset Dump/Midi Saving? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Pantomime 1.2.0) From: donearlsto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Pantomime (ADM 559) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_9493A65D.2932.4625.AB06.BCB4EDD655C7@aol.com" X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.202 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 02:13:24 +0000 (UTC) --=_9493A65D.2932.4625.AB06.BCB4EDD655C7@aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks,=A0 Both devices support SysEx and can Dump, and also Load....mostly what I am= wondering about is what hardware (some sort of midi interface) and Mac So= ftware I could use.=A0 Any ideas on these two fronts? Thank you,=A0 Donovan=A0 On Jun 2, 2009, at 8:07:11 PM, Mech wrote: From: Mech Subject: Re: Preset Dump/Midi Saving? Date: June 2, 2009 8:07:11 PM EDT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com At 5:08 PM -0400 6/2/09, donearlsto wrote: > >I have two pieces of equipment: a Rocktron Prophesy and an All=A0 >Access Midi Controller.. >I would like to save the settings from these two pieces of equipment.... > >Isn't there a way I can connect from the MIDI out of these devices,=A0 >directly to my computer (Mac), and thus save the information=A0 >directly on my laptop? Thereby allowing me to load the data in the=A0 >future directly from my laptop? Well, the good news is: Yes, this is fairly common. What you're=A0 referring to is called a SysEx Dump. You simply connect your device=A0 via MIDI to your computer, begin recording on your sequencing=A0 program, and start the dump. Your sequencer will record it just as=A0 any other MIDI, and then you can play back the dump to restore the=A0 patches to your device. The bad news is: SysEx Dump HAS TO BE SUPPORTED FROM THE HARDWARE=A0 DEVICE. Since you'd be initiating the dump from your Prophesy or All=A0 Access, either/both of those two devices have to support SysEx. Many=A0 devices, especially controllers, don't bother with dump support. You're going to need to pore through the manuals for your MIDI=A0 controllers. Search for anything referring to System Exclusive=A0 (SysEx) information. If you can find something on this, you've just=A0 taken the first step toward accomplishing your task. Likewise, if you can't find anything, then you're most likely going=A0 to have to do it the hard way: with a pencil and paper, writing down=A0 all your settings for each patch. Ganbatte! --m. --=A0 _____ "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of=A0 murder... later" --=_9493A65D.2932.4625.AB06.BCB4EDD655C7@aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"

Thanks,=A0

Both devic= es support SysEx and can Dump, and also Load....mostly what I am wondering= about is what hardware (some sort of midi interface) and Mac Software I= could use.=A0

Any ideas on these two fronts?

Thank you,=A0

Donovan=A0

On Jun 2, 2009, at 8:07:11 PM, Me= ch <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:

From: ">Mech <mech@m3ch.net>
Subject: Re: Preset Dump/Midi Saving?
Date: June 2, 2009 8:07:11 PM EDT
= To: Loopers-Delight@loo= pers-delight.com
At 5:08 PM -0400 6/2/09, donearlsto wrote:>
>I have two pieces of equipment: a Rocktron Prophesy and an= All=A0
>Access Midi Co= ntroller..
>I would like to save the settings from these two pieces= of equipment....
>
>Isn't there a way I can connect from the= MIDI out of these devices,=A0
>directly to my computer (Mac), and thus save the information=A0
>directly on my laptop?= Thereby allowing me to load the data in the=A0
>future directly from my laptop?

Well, the= good news is: Yes, this is fairly common. What you're=A0
referring to is called a SysEx Dump. You= simply connect your device=A0
via MIDI to your computer, begin recording on your sequencing=A0
program, and start the dump.= Your sequencer will record it just as=A0
any other MIDI, and then you can play back the dump to res= tore the=A0
patches to you= r device.

The bad news is: SysEx Dump HAS TO BE SUPPORTED FROM THE= HARDWARE=A0
DEVICE. Since= you'd be initiating the dump from your Prophesy or All=A0
Access, either/both of those two devices= have to support SysEx. Many=A0
devices, especially controllers, don't bother with dump support.
=
You're going to need to pore through the manuals for your MIDI=A0
controllers. Search for anythi= ng referring to System Exclusive=A0<= /span>
(SysEx) information. If you can find something on this, you've= just=A0
taken the first= step toward accomplishing your task.

Likewise, if you can't find= anything, then you're most likely going=A0
to have to do it the hard way: with a pencil and paper,= writing down=A0
all your= settings for each patch.

Ganbatte!

--m.
--=A0
_____
"I want to keep you alive= so there is always the possibility of=A0
murder... later"

Thank you!

On Jun 2, 2009, at 10:43:27 PM, Mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:

From:	Mech <mech@m3ch.net>
Subject:	Re: Preset Dump/Midi Saving?
Date:	June 2, 2009 10:43:27 PM EDT
To:	Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

At 10:12 PM -0400 6/2/09, donearlsto wrote:
>
>Both devices support SysEx and can Dump, and also Load....mostly 
>what I am wondering about is what hardware (some sort of midi 
>interface) and Mac Software I could use.

You're 90% there!

For hardware, any decent USB MIDI interface should work just fine. 
I've used an M-Audio Uno in the past, and it didn't set me back any 
more than $50 new.  Also, if you're looking at doing any other music 
on the computer, most controller keyboards have built-in MIDI 
interfaces that you could use too.

As far as software, most of the decent commercial products (Cubase, 
Logic) handle SysEx without issue.  That's probably a bit of 
overkill, though.  I'd see if any of those aforementioned interfaces 
come bundled with a "light" copy of a sequencer.  (Aside: I've not 
used Ableton for SysEx dumps, so I don't know if their Live Lite 
version -- which comes bundled everywhere -- would work properly.)

Or, you might pick up a copy of Computer Music magazine.  There 
should be a Mac compatible sequencer on the program DVD that comes 
with it, and I'd be surprised if it didn't support System Exclusive.

Personally, I've got a demo copy of Rondo, from fracturedSoftware. 
It's a bit of a pain, because you need to pick the functions you want 
to demo upon program boot each time.  But I only go through SysEx 
dumps, like, once a year; maybe not even that much.  So I've never 
bothered to move beyond the demo.  Works okay for me.

Hope that helps!

    --m.
-- 
_____
"the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...."

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:52 AM, M= ech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:

At 12:48 PM +0100 6/2/09, Simeon Harris wrote:

i really like the plugins in Live and i'd like to use them in conjuncti= on with my favourite AU plugins to replace my rack of fx

Sim,

I see you've gotten some fine advice from Os (I'll especially concu= r with his recommendation for turning plugs on/off to save CPU). Here's= another $.02.

--0016364c771916ecf0046b6d00be-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 07:58:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79D903BE77; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 07:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CeUfc8eK+jZ38SywohUXQpxr49dR3BExCNaMVzemB0c=; b=r1ggZFfg4YO4djEnNMW3xj6d3PjT9agXtrUVfhXblKVrubbzVRGv8m/oGAiJg14gHe gWKeiEZV0OYk2EUxfvYVZtjDZZhiALLDnrFBq4P+k8+1UMa6M3Ai8i6K1yPIkMoexKp2 busbLFX+hvEu71esAgHRWZtf+mPHj4CNSO940= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=wSTJLxvXA0qMwsb0N7iw+jLVSqfF2eUCUP6FWju1BF4B5QaeGQRntVm4jFDPT+wvvh AGbbef15by59mBff9c4PgMhINdFj138oM4VJwnRbMsiHbRP8FKsWLj8zyjmWEDdHKr6X HF0i7rJTvDwvKTBy55EfaVKAwQfotrqfu8YS4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <44e368750906022243u30412c05q923c1a3045d05964@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0905270846w18ee5fd7xc7c746f9ddc9f6ae@mail.gmail.com> <4A1D81AD.3090100@tiscali.co.uk> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADBB3B8D07@barq.sailpoint.com> <44e368750906022243u30412c05q923c1a3045d05964@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:58:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f2721095ae13046b6d06b1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 07:58:34 +0000 (UTC) --001485f2721095ae13046b6d06b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit lol! but yes, i agree...the combination of my g-force and eclipse is pretty mind blowing, so any sortware replacement is going to have to come up with the goods...big time... sim On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:43 AM, james fowler wrote: > i'd say keep the eventide. good luck finding anything that can even come > close to it. my heavy guitar rack sounds incredible and i firmly contend > that it can't be replicated, so there's something to be said for a piece of > hardware that does its job and does it very well. > > that having been said, i'm saving up for a receptor ; ) > > - jim > --001485f2721095ae13046b6d06b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lol! but yes, i agree...the combination of my g-force and eclipse is pretty= mind blowing, so any sortware replacement is going to have to come up with= the goods...big time...

sim

On We= d, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:43 AM, james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com> wrote:

i'd say keep = the eventide.=A0 good luck finding anything that can even come close to it.= =A0 my heavy guitar rack sounds incredible and i firmly contend that it can= 't be replicated, so there's something to be said for a piece of ha= rdware that does its job and does it very well.

that having been said, i'm saving up for a receptor ; )

- ji= m

--001485f2721095ae13046b6d06b1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 08:37:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 589E83BE73; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:37:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 205825971/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.193.178/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.193.178 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjsCAJPSJUpPTsGy/2dsb2JhbAAIz2SECwWIXw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,297,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="205825971" Message-ID: <4A26392D.7040309@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:49:49 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6s0UED.A.vf.1YjJKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:37:09 +0000 (UTC) hi Matt, well no-one mentioned the obvious choice based on your list (Rainer, where are you? :-) Matt Davignon wrote: > So, I'm idly looking into expanding my looping setup, since I'm > starting to feel the limits of the looper in my Line 6 DL-4. (Mostly > that 15 seconds at normal speed is too short.) > > So I just spent an hour looking at what else is out there and I'm > feeling a bit discouraged. Electro Harmonix Stereo Memory Man (+hazari) > > What I'm looking for in a looper: > --Simple & easy to use. yep > --at least 30 seconds of looping time yep, just. in true stereo > --Lets me pick start and end points while recording. (Will not try to > autocorrect my timing, or make me choose loop length before I start.) yep, but you have to hold the tap button for the length of the loop, ...releasing it accurately isn't as easy as tap -- tap > --Reverse function yes > --Half Speed function (or even better - a speed dial!) yes, speed dial up/down an octave > --Lets me choose # of repeats when not infinite. while overdubbing. (no cheap pedal lets you set feedback while not overdubbing) > --Will not drive up the cost of the pedal with stuff I'll never use. $300 thought it would be cheaper in US :-( > --smaller than a hardcover book yes Also it has A hi-pass/lo-pass filter that works on the loop. Bad time stretching on loop. A lot of headroom. Can be used as a send/return fx (mono) if you use the right in/outs. As a delay fx it's one of the most colourful available, but there's quite some limitation in how you can combine that with the looper. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 09:07:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A23643BE79; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:07:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 384 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:07:06 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=osgvvpXV2r953efJRdhe9BLcWqGbXHAJaqpxL8SbPhU=; b=R3QwTXu96EEeThELOnRRWA9hy3t0egJ2njl3Y9klrJQ/zfJ4ts59ydMyni6KctPZqH x/QaTxi/NYJufqQ4MJkOS8ejA40EWpMKT7NE7bplQqsYm1ApBEYhyGVOv6uEpSqwVwsi sO1AY00jWE0lBRFMitPmH0kK3uZ7ekBJeDd1M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Wrq7zEWePB0zG58jT7J2DutwlN24RwMotAUhpLfv7h96OCvGviiXgX1lGSO7ZehoLS wgak5zrzFdowl1vjAoI5cH3faro7bjPUW9GaxBazG3W+ZwRB6A6EL3oYIjUKyCykdHNq S1E4ZecWspqSOnuJ7095MVrUvlG56dM6042Nw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A26392D.7040309@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4A26392D.7040309@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 02:00:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices) From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:07:06 +0000 (UTC) Wow, that does sound neat. (Watched the demo at EH's site.) Does a footswitch come with the pedal, or sold separate? On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:49 AM, andy butler wrote: > hi Matt, > well no-one mentioned the obvious choice based on your list > (Rainer, where are you? :-) > > > Electro Harmonix Stereo Memory Man (+hazari) > >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 09:28:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49D563BE81; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 205850983/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.193.178/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.193.178 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjsCAIHfJUpPTsGy/2dsb2JhbAAIz2yECwWIXw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,297,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="205850983" Message-ID: <4A26452A.6040400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:40:58 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices) References: <4A26392D.7040309@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:28:17 +0000 (UTC) The only footswiches are attached to the pedal, there's no-where to connect an external switch. (would be easy enough to add a socket for an external tap switch) Matt Davignon wrote: > Wow, that does sound neat. (Watched the demo at EH's site.) Does a > footswitch come with the pedal, or sold separate? > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:49 AM, andy butler wrote: >> hi Matt, >> well no-one mentioned the obvious choice based on your list >> (Rainer, where are you? :-) >> >> >> Electro Harmonix Stereo Memory Man (+hazari) >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 09:30:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 540EF3BE85; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8c262001-2bce-4587-82f3-6e67dc06f11c_" X-Originating-IP: [83.145.33.34] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: blech (pedal choices) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:30:01 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4A26392D.7040309@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4A26392D.7040309@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2009 09:30:01.0552 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE91AD00:01C9E42D] Resent-Message-ID: <0d3Zc.A.nVB.aKkJKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:30:02 +0000 (UTC) --_8c262001-2bce-4587-82f3-6e67dc06f11c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have to agree on the EHSMM+H=2C i fooled around with it this weekend and i= t was a LOT of fun.. much more creative than the RC2 and i would imgina the= RC20 (which i have only tried in a store). Anders www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk >=20 > hi Matt=2C > well no-one mentioned the obvious choice based on your list > (Rainer=2C where are you? :-) >=20 >=20 > Electro Harmonix Stereo Memory Man (+hazari) >=20 >= --_8c262001-2bce-4587-82f3-6e67dc06f11c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have to agree =3Bon =3B the EHSMM+H=2C i fooled around with it this= weekend and it was a LOT of fun.. much more creative than the RC2 and i wo= uld imgina the =3BRC20 (which i have =3Bonly tried in a store).

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--Boundary_(ID_DWOSr6+u5DAoKXPF2n4Zwg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 11:46:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DB9F3BE7C; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6ce74603-f6af-4d1f-80e0-43bc32d2b3f6_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: Connecting a KAOSS KP3 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:46:02 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2009 11:46:02.0905 (UTC) FILETIME=[DF1D5090:01C9E440] Resent-Message-ID: <0Bn4dC.A.enD.7JmJKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:46:03 +0000 (UTC) --_6ce74603-f6af-4d1f-80e0-43bc32d2b3f6_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have recently got a KP3 and it's lots of fun.. BUT how to i connected to = an ordinary mixer?? I have a very simple 6 channel mixer to which I connect a microphone from m= y guitar rig (in which i have a EDP). Now i want to send that signal to the= KP3 and be able to mix in samples an loops from th KP3 as well as add effe= cts to my guitar sound. Currently i send from the FX-out on the mixer to mi= crophone in on KP3 and the from KP3 out (RCA) to a stereo channel. BUT i ge= t a lot of noise from the FX-out !! Any tips??? What would like to to is to route guitar (and later maybe other= sources) to the KP3 and the be able to mix in the KP3 in the over all soun= d... I might in the future also want to send to other effects (loopers=2C r= everbs) and be able to mix those with the live guitar signal. What would th= e best solution be?? Thanks=2C Anders --_6ce74603-f6af-4d1f-80e0-43bc32d2b3f6_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have recently got a KP3 and it's lots of fun.. BUT how to i connected to = an ordinary mixer??
I have a very simple 6 channel mixer to which I connect a microphone from m= y guitar rig (in which i have a EDP). Now i want to send that signal to the= KP3 and be able to mix in samples an loops from th KP3 as well as add effe= cts to my guitar sound. Currently i send from the FX-out on the mixer to mi= crophone in on KP3 and the from KP3 out (RCA) to a stereo channel. BUT i ge= t a lot of noise from the FX-out !!
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= --_6ce74603-f6af-4d1f-80e0-43bc32d2b3f6_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 12:08:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4840E3BE72; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=L0v58q2254w0t4LxBD9K1LvpnuE8DZQP40USqQXuRYA=; b=RVPwXXWRn3XAqhO3E5U2mfAsm4f6kp5oZr5hnLXLM00lyWgYn1kFT+Ud8UC3Yaa9BF SvcEi9nlwklPBOyGucnX669BPajHw9Yjj3YCq/FqwAuPNSk/edRbYsuct2jO7mqWv+CO x43es3JrEQbmt8HcZYY2Rez5zAXklCTRHYCus= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=L0UwxCt4vMKrUajVovRM5AKe/imBJq0roIQwEshFlMB8Pv+xJtpoGPvBVfITUsIxgH xkIB72GuTZaSHfnL51JyPS+EtcBv00tS0ZAMNRrTd50dNO2o6fnM9sHHMpG7V3xqEOHC 2374fgLdqJeMMz9CCqiLU1Q4K5XCLFgKeUeRM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 14:08:47 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906030508m3eebf3feo4ca8ae959240cb01@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: mastering plug ins From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Jeff, again, a stack of unsorted wisdom (and street knowledge): > Now for processing I usually sample a bit of noise and the do a noise reduction run on it. Now it's time for me to talk with tongue in cheek: if you remove the noise later, why do you add it in the first place? Reconstructive surgery is something which can be done by a mastering engineer, but is not what is the primary goal of mastering - and more importantly, it's something which will leave scars, to stick with the metaphor. Try to optimize your signal chain in the recording process to get rid of unwanted noise. One action word here is "gain structure". Another one is EQ. Noise is most of the time an issue in the high frequency band. So if you have, say, a reverb effect and you can reduce the reverb's high frequency content without affecting what you're after, then please do so. > I might also at this time adjust levels in the recording as needed. Which may or may not be a good idea. There's level adjustment before and after the compressor, and there are places where either one is appropriate. If you do it, try it (in case your software allows for it) to do it non-destructively, i.e. by using some "volume envelope" feature, not by editing the audio file. > I may or may not do some eq on it then using whatever. I am getting weak here. I try out all the other stuff but it's just at random and mostly don't like the results. Maybe a little eq works out. Ignorance is not bliss here. A few ideas I'm throwing in (at the risk that you know them already): * At all costs, use an audio app (I don't remember which you're using - was it Ardour? or Audacity?) that allows you to use the effects plugin-style and several of them at once. They will interact with each other, so to find your optimum sound, you need to tweak them in interaction. * Rules of thumb for EQ in mastering (there are exceptions to these rules, which I don't want to go into right now): * destructive EQ (e.g. highpass at 35Hz or removing an unwanted resonance with a high-q parametric) is the first step in the processing chain. It's also the only EQ (for that removing unwanted resonance) with high Q settings. * use parametric EQ, not graphic * the maximum allowed "Q" setting on your EQ is in the 0.7 range (tranlates to: the minimum bandwidth setting is 1 1/2 octaves). * an EQ setting in excess of +/-3dB means something is wrong in the mix or source material. Go fix it there. * Rules of thub for compression in mastering: * the typical number of compressors in the chain ("compressor" being the general term including limiters and clippers) is 2-3. * the limiter (a compressor with infinite ratio and minimum attack time) is always the last thing in the chain (safe for dither/noiseshape - see below). * the gain reduction of a limiter should not exceed 3dB * the gain reduction of a clipper should not exceed .5dB * a single compressor can be used to a) tame microdynamics (this is usuall done during mixing), b) tame macrodynamics, but not the same two things at once in an efficient manner. * if you adjust your source level pre-compressor (either while playing or in your mastering process), soft and loud passages will sound vastly different (especially with a fast compressor). * rule of thumb: microdynamics - short attack/release. macrodynamics - long attack/release * mastering compression time settings usually happen in the 100ms-3s range. * Level practices: when comparing the sound of two different processed versions (or comparing your stuff to a master from another source), make sure they have roughly the same loudness. First-oder rule of thumb: RMS value. Second-order rule of thumb: K-System metering. And another thing: > It's that missing thing that I am trying to improve. So let me ask "what is that thing you're trying to improve"? Take some recordings you think sound good on any system, and where you think "damn, that mastering job would sound good on my material!". Compare it to your stuff, putting them on the same level (as mentioned before, and also in private email). Try to take notes. The guitar sounds edgier? It's less boomy? Etc. Then, use those meter things. Frequency Analyzer, Meter (Peak and RMS/K-System), Phase Scope. Compare both your and their master (best, with audio turned off). Again take notes. Is it flatter/pronounced areas (how wide in octaves)? What is the relationship between peaks and RMS in different parts (soft/loud)? What is the relationship between RMS values in soft/loud portions? etc. Ok, I should start and do a web tutorial. Have you already checked out Bob Katz's online tutorial (I didn't so far, but absolutely have to!) Best, Rainer ps: did you ever check your favourite albums for the mastering credits? I find that e.g. Howie Weinberg is responsible for a lot of the really good stuff, with Bob Ludwig coming in at a close second. And there's another nice quote from Gateway Mastering (Ludwig's company): "mastering will most probably the highest per-hour in your entire project". 'nuff said... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 12:23:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 719093BE80; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:23:41 UTC Message-ID: <4A266A18.101@dehnhard.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:18:32 -0500 From: Tilmann Dehnhard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices) References: <003c01c9e3f6$40a0a6a0$e8e13547@YOUR08D5303051> <004f01c9e3f7$afc859a0$e8e13547@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <004f01c9e3f7$afc859a0$e8e13547@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19ltIrRZratfdCffr8o3qJgGThRQyMwT+GcynB i+b0umcLRnspm+nVtt/N0aTYVdNrGLeShKi7uNcADfPGlMk8RD aZj6M1jbhTGpIX5WfhkIHVVd51zhsyk Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:23:42 +0000 (UTC) hey jeff, thanx for the flowers. the 2880 is my favoured multitrack looper because i can fade tracks easily. especially for endings that's very useful. tilmann Jeff Duke schrieb: > Matt, check this out. DL 4, 2880 and alot of talent! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO8bQb__jKg > > Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 12:54:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7AB23BE7E; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1244033668; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=KuczWTp554S6FtX9MEKsvQE5oT8=; b=Jx8sIK4VkAbDuoDStCOSUNLMUsrITOUOGkWXnAJ73jT/w8QbORaVxNxpDUHrjcpD 744MGLmNT9OnjSVJpgqhOfFK1CDUtnDR9O7aVgVrFuPEL6GYtDsMXxbq2rQmnZna; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=uzAMhUXJAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=n-EuDs9t9dSMd8bgpfEA:9 a=P71D8OWjLbVyMmyJFAV9UXs553YA:4 a=CLFctTkQT18A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002801c9e44a$6d9da2d0$e8e13547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <003c01c9e3f6$40a0a6a0$e8e13547@YOUR08D5303051> <004f01c9e3f7$afc859a0$e8e13547@YOUR08D5303051> <4A266A18.101@dehnhard.com> Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:54:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <4sG0_C.A.adF.EKnJKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:54:28 +0000 (UTC) The pleasure is mine Tilmann, When my friends ask "what is looping" this is one of the examples I point them to. It never disappoints. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:18 AM Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices) > hey jeff, thanx for the flowers. the 2880 is my favoured multitrack looper > because i can fade tracks easily. especially for endings that's very > useful. > tilmann > > Jeff Duke schrieb: >> Matt, check this out. DL 4, 2880 and alot of talent! >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO8bQb__jKg >> >> Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 14:55:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A9663BE77; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 14:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=tfoDc5rJ4sr4zokEFRPAdpmDHuW1ZyiASdp6eEi/GRw=; b=omyh0CJX3hHR8WrskcEN+vzWbpz3ZQcVF95C/GMvvMP3kVeoHL3jOizolPTn9zLgTO jTdbxlHXisxZuWGAXgxOoyCOPqrB9e27mJxY6cTHxRnr5vHD4amyHBr4Of5A1nHP4+60 uWgbqZ+aBHnXtwKUrFdEAQjtHfEooby4yUp4g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=w6/tdIaFsznB/f5z5Beysk23x0cUkRNz3YVJOOXILqJXnZ1RHZJY5TwXsCmkTrVzqf dh/bnIZwJYHAdK2aYlbOmgP/4nl9UD59TmC0JdiGt/Ccw0nhHVgTfDTWale5yJr7SeTQ XRn3xJIHuwX+60EZzpJQ2vPWEu/5093Vv8Ofs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 10:55:16 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 91eab4580d6f891b Message-ID: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f0efefa16a046b72d84f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 14:55:17 +0000 (UTC) --00163630f0efefa16a046b72d84f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Additionally, I've found it pretty easy to fire off MIDI clips to control > the Send levels (amongst other things) of each effect. You can come up with > some wild synchronized effects by using clips to blast audio into different > effects on different beats. Or, you can come up with some insane > tremolo-ized effects by automating the Send on and off faster than you could > ever humanly work a foot pedal. this is brilliant. gotta try it. > > > --m. > -- > _____ > "we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guide" > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --00163630f0efefa16a046b72d84f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Additionally, I've found it pretty easy to fire off MIDI clips to contr= ol the Send levels (amongst other things) of each effect. =A0You can come u= p with some wild synchronized effects by using clips to blast audio into di= fferent effects on different beats. =A0Or, you can come up with some insane= tremolo-ized effects by automating the Send on and off faster than you cou= ld ever humanly work a foot pedal.

this is brilliant. gotta try it.

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=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--m.
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"we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guid= e"

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http://www.ubetoo.c= om/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
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--00163630f0efefa16a046b72d84f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 15:06:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AF183BE79; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1244041582; bh=reP4W/aFbzsfmUGPkKEDnIrJQThbWps2fGV8QGxjZwA=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=Drzk+ndL+d9DNsY6FJDAc5Uvjox8e/GmFfIcvBH/LJ0EaVv4m4ZEJ9W/djaiWdHoO 7nr7+UvJUL0T56/xKuXz5Ht6be8DCXgFBAsf2BdmF78l+qRbMTQDAFohoYBR/ATBFT ooMEsjvLiO0Y182Wz2TMC+nY9Au2b3MsMXlVmHBU= Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:06:21 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest - video MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 151.16.209.165 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <-vYvbB.A.y9.vFpJKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, Os, thanks for uploading the pictures and the video's, they look really g= ood. And btw: Darkroom has done a great set last saturday, I really enjoyed it. Btw: we have all arrived in Firenze and enjoyed the real stuff...Italien = pasta :) We'll soon leave for tonight's open air gig in a amphitheatro, the weather is good so it will = be a fantastic evening. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! Scarlet NO LIMIT nu slechts 19,95 EUR Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 15:26:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A269E3BE80; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:26:48 EDT Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c14.628bdc4a.3757f038_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.200 Resent-Message-ID: <6zuTmD.A.whB.0YpJKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:26:44 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c14.628bdc4a.3757f038_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/2/09 9:36:01 PM, mattdavignon@gmail.com writes: > Instead it > offers me the opportunity to play with imaginary musicians, which > frankly I find insulting. > don't call me frank!.....i always play with "imaginary" musicians and always in the BIG ROOM.....:)m "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.d oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd) --part1_c14.628bdc4a.3757f038_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 6/2/09 9:36:01 PM, mattdavignon@gmail.com writes:

Instead it offers me the opportunity to play with imaginary musicians, which
frankly I find insulting.

don't call me frank!.....i always play with "imaginary" musicians= and always in the BIG ROOM.....:)m

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It's in near-mint condition. Anyone interested in buying it? I'm in northern New Jersey if you're interested in checking it out in person. Regards, Andrew Koenig From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 15:51:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD8953BE79; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:51:28 UTC X-Originating-IP: [68.39.32.18] Reply-To: From: "Andrew Koenig" To: Subject: Electronic music festival in NJ Halloween weekend (Thu-Sat) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:41:25 -0400 Message-ID: <00ea01c9e461$c1b8bc80$452a3580$@org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcnkYcAsdgMo7U0xReSpFB+y8fJNYg== Content-Language: en-us x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AVun BKef BZD7 CVs3 DsaM ExmJ E8iA FU1y GgP3 HElH HVxf ILFL I8+9 I+MB Jgtb JtXI;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{CA8D7DD3-6250-42DE-AE3A-A686AF805012};YQByAGsAQABhAGMAbQAuAG8AcgBnAA==;Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:41:24 GMT;RQBsAGUAYwB0AHIAbwBuAGkAYwAgAG0AdQBzAGkAYwAgAGYAZQBzAHQAaQB2AGEAbAAgAGkAbgAgAE4ASgAgAEgAYQBsAGwAbwB3AGUAZQBuACAAdwBlAGUAawBlAG4AZAAgACgAVABoAHUALQBTAGEAdAApAA== x-cr-puzzleid: {CA8D7DD3-6250-42DE-AE3A-A686AF805012} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:51:28 +0000 (UTC) http://electro-music.com/event2009/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 17:01:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F26283BE79; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=E4IvHdBYvdyOElNuN4+I0UlCBt9+2ii5ZHoNOu1TSLE=; b=sdAYQCFTJtkD89lVQ2Wuqsv3XyemY5qrMO7X0zMRmGqum+C2eAejQF+xFox76IB9Xv eYNSqw/+/wKynQ6lSfRhJfpPrG6uN8YvGYLiYGStrpFXCoeES4ZDPO/L6RPNhzTONX+i dqbVfxXq5JDZI4kf6uyT1755Duk1+4hBC3hvU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=QDSv7BRXU+AYprQVXdWM0qlUXBoKhc2cJL2/u1kZUHKBtHorwUr3OZzNsIsi/OQ9zZ 1O7kVITtdHITpKC/lqPTWtZSV+9oMKnxc44kb/5XNV9vkVjAYD3D5QDQpDERHnlpFfKR nbfsiwOIioFir5GR8Gx7c1bBPxk46xqxwTDcE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:01:19 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60906031001p44552639xbd54ea7e4b0fc6f8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Virtual GigSpam: Jim Goodin Live on uStream this weekend From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d32a1baf2841046b749bd5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:01:20 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d32a1baf2841046b749bd5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Guys (and Ladies)... A reminder that my bi-weekly live performance series on uStream, *Sunday Morning at 11,* will be on this Sunday, June 7th, at 11am EST. The webcast channel address is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11, please consider joining me if you are around Sunday. *see below for World showtime conversions.* * * *Additionally, I have a new home website at http://jimgoodin.blogspot.comthat is combining both weekly blog, news and events about what I'm up to. This portal is replacing my previous jimgoodinmusic.com. You can also access this new site by going to my label address http://www.woodandwiremusic.com.* *Nat'l and Int'l Sunday Morning at 11 performance times - EST 11am, PST 8am, UK 4pm, Continental Western Europe 5pm, Japan Midnight. For a closer look at times in your area check out* http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html. Hope to see some of you virtually on Sunday. Have a great rest of the week. Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... www.myspace.com/ctreuse & jimgoodin.bandcamp.com music links... jimgoodin.blogspot.com www.woodandwiremusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/eastofwhere www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0016e6d32a1baf2841046b749bd5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Guys (and Ladies)...

=A0

A reminder that my bi-weekly live performance series on uStream, Su= nday Morning at 11, will be on this Sunday, June 7th, at 11am EST.=A0= =A0The webcast channel address is http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunda= y-morning-at-11, please consider joining me if you are around Sunday. = =A0 see below for World showtime conversions.

Additionally,=A0I have a new hom= e website at h= ttp://jimgoodin.blogspot.com that is combining both weekly blog, news a= nd events about what I'm up to. =A0This portal is replacing my previous= jimgoodinmusic.co= m. =A0You can also access this new site by going to my label address http://www.woo= dandwiremusic.com.

Nat'l and Int'l Sunday Morning at 11 performance times - ES= T 11am, PST 8am, UK 4pm, Continental Western Europe 5pm,=A0Japan Midnight. = =A0For a closer look at times in your area=A0check out

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html.

Hope to see some of you virtually on Sunday.=A0 Have a great rest of t= he week.

Jim
--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming so= on...
www.m= yspace.com/ctreuse & jimgoodin.bandcamp.com

music links...
jimgoodin.blogspot.com

www.woodandwiremusic.com

www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgo= odinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/eastofwhere
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.you= tube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodi= ndigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--0016e6d32a1baf2841046b749bd5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 18:11:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 822993BE7C; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090603181107965.EB9901C00085@mwinf3524.me.freeserve.com Message-Id: <341A3492-5B4D-4B31-8DAC-07A1EA2E8A82@con-brio.com> From: Steve Bingham To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest - video Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 19:11:04 +0100 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Great set guys. Loved the variety of sounds and moods. Volume was up high!! Cheers, Steve On 2 Jun 2009, at 20:31, Os wrote: > Hi, > > the Darkroom set from the Antwerp Loopfest is here: > http://vimeo.com/4960054 > > NB this isn't the official video - it's footage I took on my own > camcorder, mixed with audio I recorded on my laptop. I imagine the > official video will be much higher quality! > > We played three pieces, each about 8 minutes long. > > Play loud! Especially the last bit. > > Also photos (of everyone, not just Darkroom) are here: > http://www.flickr.com/groups/antwerp_loopfest_2009/ > > > cheers, > os. > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > From sikemeog18@msn.com Wed Jun 3 18:19:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 333 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:19:22 UTC Received: from bay0-omc2-s38.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s38.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.174]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088FA3BE72 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY125-W9 ([65.55.130.44]) by bay0-omc2-s38.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:13:35 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9a4b8bbc-ce16-48a0-8469-8fe8fae2ef11_" X-Originating-IP: [41.202.95.22] Reply-To: From: Sikeme Ogbeide Subject: From: Ms Sikeme Ogbeide Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:13:34 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jun 2009 18:13:35.0240 (UTC) FILETIME=[02961080:01C9E477] To: undisclosed-recipients:; --_9a4b8bbc-ce16-48a0-8469-8fe8fae2ef11_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Ms Sikeme Ogbeide =20 Dearest One=2C =20 REQUEST FOR HELP=2C BE MY GUARDIAN AND THEN HELP ME TO COME OVER YOUR COUNT= RY: =20 permit me to inform you of my desire of asking you to be a guardian or fost= er parent to me and then help me out in what i am about to tell you. I know= this may sound strange to you =2C receiving a mail from an unknown person= =2C but my condition has forced me to do that.=20 =20 I'm Ms. Sikeme Ogbeide 21 years old=2Cthe only daughter of Late Mr. & Mrs. = Timothy A. Ogbeide=2C my father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant here in A= bidjan=2C the economic capital of Cote D'Ivoire. He was poisoned to death b= y his business associates on one of their outings on a business trip=2Cmy m= other died when i was a baby. =20 Before the death of my father on April. 2006 in a private hospital here in = Abidjan=2C he secretly called me by his bed side and told me that he has th= e sum of Eighteen million Seven hundred thousand United State Dollars USD (= $18.7million) deposited in a suspense account in one of the big banks here = in Abidjan.=20 =20 He then strongly advised me not to seek for assistance in the investment of= the money from his lawyer nor any of his friend here but to seek for a for= eign partner from a country of my choice (outside our country=2CCote D'Ivoi= re) that will assist me in the wise investment of the money.I have since le= ft the money in the bank with the view of my making use of it for investmen= t purposes after my education carrier here. But as you may be already aware= by now=2C our country (Cote D' Ivoire) is presently at political crises. R= ebels have already taken over the whole Northern part of the country and ma= king efforts towards to capture the commercial center of the country=2C Abi= djan=2C where i am now. =20 For this ugly development in this country=2C i have now decided to take qui= ck actions and have this money transferred out of this country before it is= too late for me in doing that. I now want to transfer it out and use it fo= r investment purpose like real estate management or hotel management. Becau= se of this i am honorably seeking your assistance in the following ways: =20 (1) To serve as a guardian to me and then assist me transfer the money into= your nominated bank account.=20 (2) To make arrangement for me to come over to your country to further my e= ducation and then settle there parmanently.=20 If you accept to stand as my guardian or foster parent to me=2C i need not = discuss on any percentage with you as you have to see the whole money as yo= urs and then assist me invest it. 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Dearest One=2C
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REQUES= T FOR HELP=2C BE MY GUARDIAN AND THEN HELP ME TO COME OVER YOUR COUNTRY: =3B
permit me to inform you of my desire of asking you to be a gua= rdian or foster parent to me and then help me out in what i am about to tel= l you. I know this may sound strange to you =2C receiving a mail from an un= known person=2C but my condition has forced me to do that.
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= I'm Ms. Sikeme Ogbeide 21 years old=2Cthe only daughter of Late Mr. &=3B= Mrs. Timothy A. Ogbeide=2C my father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant her= e in Abidjan=2C the economic capital of Cote D'Ivoire. He was poisoned to d= eath by his business associates on one of their outings on a business trip= =2Cmy mother died when i was a baby.
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Before the death of my = father on April. 2006 in a private hospital here in Abidjan=2C he secretly = called me by his bed side and told me that he has the sum of Eighteen milli= on Seven hundred thousand United State Dollars USD ($18.7million) deposited= in a suspense account in one of the big banks here in Abidjan.
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=3B
For this ugly development in = this country=2C i have now decided to take quick actions and have this mone= y transferred out of this country before it is too late for me in doing tha= t. I now want to transfer it out and use it for investment purpose like rea= l estate management or hotel management. Because of this i am honorably see= king your assistance in the following ways:
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(1) To serve as = a guardian to me and then assist me transfer the money into your nominated = bank account.
(2) To make arrangement for me to come over to your country to further my e= ducation and then settle there parmanently.
If you accept to stand as my guardian or foster parent to me=2C i need not = discuss on any percentage with you as you have to see the whole money as yo= urs and then assist me invest it. But if you still want a percentage=2C i a= m willing to offer you=2C 15 % of the total money as compensation for your = assistance.As soon as i receive your concrete assurance to assist me with m= y proposal and also your full contact address/phone number=2C i will then g= ive the bank your contact information and then tell them to transfer the mo= ney into your account as i want to come over to stay with you parmanently. =
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The bank will then contact you and communicate with you on = the transfer. You shall then be giving me information on when the transfer = will be over.I shall also send my pictures to you and shall also need yours= own too. No matter what your decision may turn out to be=2C please i beg y= ou to keep this highly secret for my safety=2C as i believe that those peop= le that killed my Daddy are still after me.
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Thanks and God = bless you .
Best regards=2C
Ms.Sikeme Ogbeide
= --_9a4b8bbc-ce16-48a0-8469-8fe8fae2ef11_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 18:20:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C5573BE7C; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:20:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <20090603114603.E3B4B3BE84@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Antwerp photos Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:20:11 +0200 Message-ID: <002201c9e477$eee0a270$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcnkQf+ouhj5B05vT7yNyBLAXpeuOgANcy9w In-Reply-To: <20090603114603.E3B4B3BE84@arsenic.violacea.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.180; VDF: 7.1.4.53) Resent-Message-ID: <8Z7MJ.A._5.d7rJKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:20:13 +0000 (UTC) http://www.flickr.com/groups/antwerp_loopfest_2009 I posted a selection of my Antwerp Loopfest photos -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 20:44:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20DFE3BE77; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A26E096.3020800@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 13:44:06 -0700 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Antwerp photos References: <20090603114603.E3B4B3BE84@arsenic.violacea.com> <002201c9e477$eee0a270$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <002201c9e477$eee0a270$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Rick, did you cut down your legs to save space when traveling?? you look 3 feet tall! http://www.flickr.com/photos/11242995@N00/3593093308/in/pool-antwerp_loopfest_2009 Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > http://www.flickr.com/groups/antwerp_loopfest_2009 > > I posted a selection of my Antwerp Loopfest photos > > -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 20:52:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEE5B3BE7C; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=S2bJY7fb42JMXvCo3fibHNz7Ci3wZwzs9xQ3PSvz6+w=; b=a7RQjihXKetoJ5SHQACX3e+gl1jbqljgiq4W/rTSS9W++sB06e4aMJQcznARw70yi6 C9/ffZund/jq+OQEEITNpgm/8mgcTnPFb92wQtqm8bUkFHIXbcaOR5+U8wiTffVIY0uI IREKf5yYhu0wIF066xwkGY1DTHdIJK35eN99E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dH5JGmVGBNhKQhsUcCXPtE0qc5SCCUCH7REkZVq1RCXUY2mjnDH8j0sIHA9+mqzLeu dlO59Nmhs/pCdMGBvrUXmpXKRBeAzrA9eivLQn/H3+w6GBlvKEm7QcDmYYZCJXo3nmE3 PgZkwSar5GQ/q+jVWbj8bxmKr8KzL41KQw9V4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0906030508m3eebf3feo4ca8ae959240cb01@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0906030508m3eebf3feo4ca8ae959240cb01@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:52:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mastering plug ins From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:52:24 +0000 (UTC) You know, you can spend a lot of time and energy on the mastering project, but I swear some of the best armature mixes I've heard came from a guitarist I used to play with. All he did was run his master buss though a light compressor, graphic EQ and a DBX exciter. (all hardware, this was pre-computer daw). One day I caught him in the process and what he did was first run a song with a similar feel though the setup and look at the display on the graphic EQ while in bypass. He then ran his program though it and tried to use the eq to get the same look in the audio spectrum. Hilarious. He admitted he just used this method as a starting point, but the real truth is, in the end he probably really good at listening. I suspect the spectrum display was probably more of a placebo than anything else. He was only doing 4 track cassette recordings, but his always sounded great. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 20:57:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80AA23BE80; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7uBCbBGm30MvRC2xXEqAPp1fBPkwL+K5+eNjmb1dWcg=; b=ZV6OO2buNiVseb2alNf7DGHVPFQInQMMv1B71/VSxrCAHD3/Wu/iKRJ9DNO0b0NN+/ LnZasFuDW/AsWOJEwiDwRJ08YtSdWgMtjzFRQwq/D+I7eMsSS1/7x+cd9nhKtAyel6uZ Z1vV8wIqmSLdD2xrtvNVUsxZvjbFeluX09pbI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=I9r5+2KKDerv5w+taCb83V7mzIWkoi4A99MqVFtV3jSuddGCTUPSeO08DYfr2k2JOr /pjaf3+SD4T/RwrePovHQ5XwLAtZGDEfPXLRt9UT++dtgLvfUbAvQWc5CljEIwiJGETm gNTrcOieZhUWgxr5wAS3lzXGLQOxRINnhDyt0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:25:14 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:57:04 +0000 (UTC) I'd pick up a used Electro-harmonix 2880. I really liked it when I used to use hardware. On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > So, I'm idly looking into expanding my looping setup, since I'm > starting to feel the limits of the looper in my Line 6 DL-4. (Mostly > that 15 seconds at normal speed is too short.) > > So I just spent an hour looking at what else is out there and I'm > feeling a bit discouraged. > > What I'm looking for in a looper: > --Simple & easy to use. > --at least 30 seconds of looping time > --Lets me pick start and end points while recording. (Will not try to > autocorrect my timing, or make me choose loop length before I start.) > --Reverse function > --Half Speed function (or even better - a speed dial!) > --Lets me choose # of repeats when not infinite. > --Will not drive up the cost of the pedal with stuff I'll never use. > --smaller than a hardcover book > > As far as I can tell, this does not exist. The closest I find is a > DL-4, which is very easy to use, but as I mentioned, the looping time > is short and I can't control the # of repeats. It's also heavy enough > that I don't want to walk around with 2 of them. > > I'm pretty disappointed in the concept of the Line 6 JM-4. It costs > more and doesn't appear to offer more of the stuff I want. Instead it > offers me the opportunity to play with imaginary musicians, which > frankly I find insulting. Has anyone used one of these? If you don't > store loops, how long can a live loop be? Can you get rid of all the > dumb preset tracks? Is it otherwise as simple as the DL-4? > > How about the LoopStation (RC-20)? How long of a loop can you get if > you don't store anything? Does it have half speed/reverse? > > Not looking for rack mounts, software or large pedal boards. I have to > fit all my gear in a rolling suitcase on public transit. > > Shruggingly, > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 20:57:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 072073BE8D; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9e1+iSOPI6vTvYJfV5TjU0uxjCVnzDLfRFTUyR2IgVk=; b=f8C30FPNlzqW4WmjBj1AX1kZ9ivrmh+VdUr3/7H/kTLOGmBKaB5d7onEo0YyWVLQgl xkPeGPEVYZx0ZxB9fhHOo01GVzmkr+aVQ/b56urDRQ3d0p6LrFYhl27nhKBRvIm8OZjy wPV2ZnaOzhHGK6hrK78UpshmaHNeRlpIwRC0Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Emp1WogLUHsHSOptUKyAJqdY3fO+0IKv9HKl48DCwrMd5H/4+PbYqFwqVvLmIPRI30 Zi19W3SZCaMZ3RwGLGAGduN3aWU3ZEXKg/r8MZtGxeRgCT38gDVpOsFXOFLdh/CZFnMu Ro+e62rZOk7N+25M6A0AuF44r38LcVH/o6mIY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:57:12 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906031357yd0e7db9jd313707b8a0950a5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Antwerp photos From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3xb33B.A.sHF.sOuJKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:57:16 +0000 (UTC) > Rick, did you cut down your legs to save space when traveling?? you look > 3 feet tall! Now Daryl, by applying a few simple estimates, you can quickly calculate that for yourself: * the laptop screen or the keyboard in the room corner can server as gauges for distance * the angle between the edges of the room can server to estimate the focal length * the relation of the size in the picture between the (known) size of the laptop screen and the (known) size of the keyboard can give an estimate for the distance between them, * thus allowing you to estimate the width of one floor panel, * thus allowing you to estimate Rick's height It's as simple as that :-P From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 21:09:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EB2E3BE87; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 21:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xRWIuES/jcC4YJglhDxDRbGO955qRIqgCXXiNx+qVX0=; b=I+LtH5JH18vFfEo27BDzADK1knJXUUpqrO419vSvCRGTnXzeOJrusjTXly81ysZuS+ TkmVJLDHT/da506f+lYJn/H+7YoS+bGUq9E1Ord778SAtHT0oZsKhMj1dIzelMzxsb8D wAroeUvji/Zwohuasl/L9Z8gceTisPoIGsqOA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=c0lebUq0zKya17LNfC7U3kgmUEbdYR81gw5SjCubM4aPNiqKpLg3sRPGDxC0FqXj8V R8H6D9DFwF9eaCgPTzpZz128HTf9jFPMkbBW19bpUjRW8XQsXHJQXPWaTKCoRC30enLF LyzgRaP2Qn59uyXMT4mBJ4HSsQIqBfOGwzFUw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0906031357yd0e7db9jd313707b8a0950a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0906031357yd0e7db9jd313707b8a0950a5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:09:09 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60906031409i55bc8e15hec9da2651e7e5aee@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Antwerp photos From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a84e0bff3e046b7812ac Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 21:09:11 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a84e0bff3e046b7812ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit what a great looking room for live music, the auditorium, it looks so festivalesque and I like Rick's 'Torch'like hair as well as spelunker's light... wish I was there... thanks for sharing Michael. best with all guys... j On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > > Rick, did you cut down your legs to save space when traveling?? you look > > 3 feet tall! > > Now Daryl, by applying a few simple estimates, you can quickly > calculate that for yourself: > * the laptop screen or the keyboard in the room corner can server as > gauges for distance > * the angle between the edges of the room can server to estimate the > focal length > * the relation of the size in the picture between the (known) size > of the laptop screen and the (known) size of the keyboard can give an > estimate for the distance between them, > * thus allowing you to estimate the width of one floor panel, > * thus allowing you to estimate Rick's height > > It's as simple as that :-P > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5a84e0bff3e046b7812ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

what a great looking room for live music, the auditorium, it looks so = festivalesque and I like Rick's 'Torch'like hair as well as spe= lunker's light...

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wish I was there... thanks for sharing Michael.=A0 best with all guys.= .. j

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Rainer Straschil= l <moinsou= nd@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Rick, did you cut down your legs to save space when = traveling?? you look
> 3 feet tall!

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calculate that for yourself:<= br> =A0* the laptop screen or the keyboard in the room corner can server as
= gauges for distance
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of the laptop screen and the (known) size of the keyboard can give an
es= timate for the distance between them,
=A0* thus allowing you to estimate= the width of one floor panel,
=A0* thus allowing you to estimate Rick&#= 39;s height

It's as simple as that :-P

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----------MB_8CBB2A860A779B3_9B0_24FE_MBLK-M02.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 21:37:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36AA33BEA4; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 21:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=PUfEY0zKftJQz3ioXj1ZdZvyfDPocfde9kpeMjjmtg+kJX0xF6Hh+8oVjY/y86AlsPqEf/zgnuvVq/i/fShAFztbmBKAfHfCj0nahB28GgWgLTPpqziFhUXBCsyZTFac2wibt2FFyr9Zl+uOHjSNTKKZHN3r8JsdYrZZYsXuIUo= ; X-YMail-OSG: ITXNn14VM1nsbQBZLMczQdU49ePHEfD0tHZggHQS_sBv.64NnU2SOBDucOEBDjyH4kOErZc8GvCqTXB.eyYCBwOsKex9lCyVzUXNWGDCgmLst83BrNnmx6KKSVdC63lC1MkfZxtMsto9zXIFXXKN7vlmMT5X2P_ueYR5rxhkZD0NzEu70vujNtSPm5nwL9JDHm2stJqReEpt_OkeHr39Nfvu44JTgqBvVa_OBn9exadAlkejSLgyO2oZ_fdDVkXm0XNiSi8tJ9wle9hjpDhnZJPbx2UkBiAjpsJp7JDpHHKmEJh4lUHsFjfnar7sFkJE077rC68MFHPO6PIt1KkNjgzun_ijFQLMPvo- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <20090603114603.E3B4B3BE84@arsenic.violacea.com> <002201c9e477$eee0a270$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: Antwerp photos Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:37:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 21:37:14 +0000 (UTC) The photos and videos I have seen of this festival are great! The venue(s) look(s) great too! Good work, Sjaak. Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 7:20 PM Subject: Antwerp photos > http://www.flickr.com/groups/antwerp_loopfest_2009 > > I posted a selection of my Antwerp Loopfest photos > > -Michael > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.51/2151 - Release Date: 06/02/09 17:53:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 21:41:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 302913BEC1; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 21:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=qH5kpzRI4I//PbdMnnRq/xUih6sZRY82RQNqqUwmEic=; b=LyzWbx/nRvdSEVIKolOjlYm9pq3K4ZAng0HvskOC9Y4Exw4dXxSQTlQPvEM1rLfv3J fixBqlIr9+BtlxDm6Mu3nRMyHD+xtWV7CluKcBjPAzyPO5r372Vi5pRrIU2e2dG5Yqnw sKuuEFAYQNwNWNUrEF7EJwWDwukBrTU5MBvrg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=XHAi246T1Se1ea1EPjJVLQmJrtxLaziHGSVUhVJx0ZpWxnm1776/3WgG8X4YeCe7Yr vE7ByLbEvJCjF8K9DqV0dbL2TQBLUVeXzmETHCnhJsOO8pWOFiJ8SnqCoUtOiTHEWYBJ 5z2/vBX1Zzq47Aitrt6mDI/2gOAipEV2YLMWg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:40:57 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60906031440l274b407by7564ecf04cc02d6b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: WOT: but maybe of interest, Julie Coryell From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5adfec727af046b788309 Resent-Message-ID: <9PccfB.A.ZpG.r3uJKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 21:41:00 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5adfec727af046b788309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is off but might be of interest to those who are hovering 50 years as I. Larry Coryell, american jazz/fusion guitarist, who I dug at a time mainly when he had the Eleventh House with some of the Brecker Brothers in the late 70's/80's, his ex-wife Julie who he recorded several interesting records with around that time, passed away recently at age 61. She sometimes voiced and co-wrote with him in those days. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/29/arts/music/29coryell.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss I still remember an amazing concer that I saw @1974 with Larry, Alphonse Mouzon and Miroslav Vitous in my home state of Arkansas of all places. Through another friend I got to meet Larry a couple of years ago which was cool. Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5adfec727af046b788309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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--001636c5adfec727af046b788309-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 22:24:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A85C53BE7F; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=k21xKoTFNO9VA7JPfeVEhpjxpBHrD4Fzf7gwecAXmLU=; b=gfJDvEV/syZ6ujXiv9gHsEU1gWz9Qe0hOOBnrRxeX6NTRH4o4A1CdsLoMBAzT/6m7x SST4fm7UE6W7fNuHzotP7OXmenhiIawE5Sripmv8qcPoOi3Kku6Bc8zOJiELOsw1PPOT gINyvS/y2cgiH+WI3gZP0s8pjUC4K0uKVtDtU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=kE1IxrTGfEBeO2mv/fk5UKZZYF1hcySJAJCoW65aRfllWUiTDu2yvdwV7Bb3YYA/fi Lq7eoOr9feQZ7O3oofzvd0llAgFrNcTTtHadThpMfoMXvSL5YCR0soQyOFzE9wDJBGMc p+ApEoIuR6/IZb37sU0kiIa9OaW0ZSmXFVASQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 23:24:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f27210c5fe9a046b791f5c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:24:36 +0000 (UTC) --001485f27210c5fe9a046b791f5c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mech - i've just tried your multiple returns method in Live... one plugin in each return and using the sends to pass the audio around the mixer - very nice. one problem though - as soon as i send audio through any of the returns (even one with no plugins in it) i get masses of latency all of a sudden....have you noticed this? and is there a cure? sim --001485f27210c5fe9a046b791f5c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mech - i've just tried your multiple returns method in Live... one plug= in in each return and using the sends to pass the audio around the mixer - = very nice. one problem though - as soon as i send audio through any of the = returns (even one with no plugins in it) i get masses of latency all of a s= udden....have you noticed this? and is there a cure?

sim

--001485f27210c5fe9a046b791f5c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 22:34:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C17223BE77; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:34:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "Tim Thompson" To: References: <20090603205717.787223BE8F@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20090603205717.787223BE8F@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: looping works of various sorts at SubZero festival in San Jose, Friday night Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:34:18 -0700 Message-ID: <016201c9e49b$6fe12660$4fa37320$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AcnkjgIwD4FWkZcSSQWWBXDPZ20/BQAC389g Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:34:25 +0000 (UTC) At the SubZero festival in San Jose this Friday night, SHARE San Jose (http://share-sj.org) will have a booth with a variety of extremely interactive and experimental visual and musical activities, featuring new works by David Tristram, Peter Nyboer, and Tim Thompson. Looping abounds. David has a pen-based visual instrument (looping and processing of hand-drawn gestures), Peter is working on a user-submitted (via email, in realtime) photo visual mix, and Tim has his LoopyCam (8 realtime-captured and processed video loops) and a prototype of a musical controller (4-track MIDI looping) for a Burning Man installation. The SubZero festival is a street fair on South First Street in San Jose, CA, this Friday from 6pm to midnight. Around 100 artists and musicians are participating. See these pages for descriptions of what will be going on: http://www.subzerofestival.com/street-guide/anno-domini.html http://www.subzerofestival.com/street-guide/ http://www.subzerofestival.com/ ...Tim... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 3 23:07:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BA633BE75; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 23:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=qzbdR5Jh0ql8zYYp3flsO1yUV/ZQh3jYsNn268yVOT4=; b=mDTZ9HIsmP8Tm882v8CAVALdpp8M2CkddnHVy0QR+SKQd5bP7QRTDAGuMNV2JOkg0p DHekdO/QdGxeRmR9gs2bZY+dVFuC+zlDbRqJB9h9QFSeHCn1EV3EjVa+N6DHj1zJQ2w5 2d0CiQT8vKYCyL9IO5N76NlgIxQnK9QikdPaY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=U8JuC2dQNP5wFOLO0hK4GQFOAys/rEXJZ1pHir1kZIrH7ZGRlXJWBZN9NIdkJayUP1 VLbOueywiikSi6/VkCpyILcPkECRoV21tUOPJy6SMlfuotL80rHrXD4NVd7EGoGaFYJE Wsy92Pv9OBn/E1gyMAWYZS9D+VcHwWjjrosU8= Message-Id: From: David Hayes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A25513C.5020403@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: LD: Your opinions please - Terratec Axon AX 50 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 16:09:11 -0700 References: <9445316AD31E43C6A77F834EF846E303@a> <4A241CA4.2030402@tiscali.co.uk> <20090601175117.59916s7t7s811h0c@www.wightman.ca> <4A24DBAE.60900@tiscali.co.uk> <243365ED8C3F450B80CA9105FF2307F5@a> <4A25513C.5020403@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 23:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi. Forgive me for not reading the whole thread and therefore not knowing if this helps the orriginal question, but from a quick glance at the thread I thought I'd volunteer that I tried a few midi guitars and briefly a magnetic roland pickup with the Axon 100 and was disappointed by all. Then I heard that RMC Piezo pickups were the best, most playable solution... had them professionally installed on my electric and I am VERY satisfied with the results. Amazing actually. Very little adjustment to playing, very predictable. Getting the RMC pickups was a little weird... he's just a dude in Berkley I think, not much for business, so I called music store very close to his location (yahoo yellow pages search) and person from the music store actually rode his bike over to RMC to get it and mail it himself because he said otherwise it takes forever. Anyway, that's my story regarding midi guitar. Hope it helps someone! On Jun 2, 2009, at 9:20 AM, andy butler wrote: > Did you try the Strat type > or the SG type? > > and didn't you say you were getting the "midi" > board, not the acoustic sim circuitry? > > Has anyone tried the SG style (autotune) variant? > Refered to as Schaller on their site. > > Matthias told me the strat config is best for piezo, > but he hasn't tried graphtech, > > ...and my guitars are both the Schaller type bridge, > even the strat. > > if this goes on I could even get over my piezo-phobia :-) > > andy butler > > Ricky Graham wrote: >> The Graphtech P/U are great, Andy. Very clean, I love the sound of >> the piezos compared to my magnetics. It really has changed my >> guitar sound, I hope for the better. >> I'm going to go with the AX50. I'll let you know how I get on. >> Cheers, >> Ricky >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" > > >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:58 AM >> Subject: Re: LD: Your opinions please - Terratec Axon AX 50 >>> phaslem@wightman.ca wrote: >>>> I had a yamaha G50 and was never very happy with the tracking. I >>>> was >>>> using it with a roland GK 2 pickup after several months of playing >>>> around with it finally gave up and sold it off on ebay. I recently >>>> picked up an axion ax50 and using it with the same guitar, though >>>> I have >>>> since installed a graphtech ghost pickup, and it is worlds apart >>>> different from my experience with the G50. The tracking is >>>> instant and I >>>> have had very little adjustments to make in my playing style. >>> >>> I've played with the AX100, and with the G50 with the *same* guitar >>> and p/u. (GK2a as it happens). >>> They seemed pretty similar to me, not surprising as they are >>> essentially >>> the same axon circuitry in a different box. >>> The A50 was released without claims of better tracking than the >>> AX100. >>> In fact, I have them both here so will likely try a detailed >>> comparison. >>> >>> I'd be guessing the change of p/u caused the change in behaviour. >>> Is it possible your GK wasn't installed in the optimum position? >>> >>> :-) >>> so you guys got me wanting a graphtech p/u >>> ( well, I really don't like the clunky GK 2a, ) >>> >>> andy butler >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No >> virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.50/2150 - Release Date: >> 06/02/09 06:47:00 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 00:45:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 998C53BE7C; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:45:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Sjaak'" , References: Subject: RE: Antwerp Loopfest - video Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:45:45 -0700 Message-ID: <2EFD610979FF4AF0A09C41215B94028C@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 thread-index: Acnkj6bZuM7CVMUoRwWOHKYYEwPGxAAHZVmA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:45:51 +0000 (UTC) Lovely music Darkroom Dudes, and big congratulations on a great Festival Sjaak! Wish I could have been there sharing the magic, love, and repetition with all of you cool people. Have a great time in rome. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Sjaak [mailto:tcplugin@scarlet.be] Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:06 AM To: Loopers-Delight Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest - video Hi all, Os, thanks for uploading the pictures and the video's, they look really good. And btw: Darkroom has done a great set last saturday, I really enjoyed it. Btw: we have all arrived in Firenze and enjoyed the real stuff...Italien pasta :) We'll soon leave for tonight's open air gig in a amphitheatro, the weather is good so it will be a fantastic evening. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! Scarlet NO LIMIT nu slechts 19,95 EUR Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 00:48:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29FF63BE75; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:48:34 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:48:43 +0000 (UTC) At 8:56 AM +0100 6/3/09, Simeon Harris wrote: > >that sounds like it might work for me too, as i do like to reroute >fx and also have side chains. so how do you change fx patches on the >fly? or do you not bother? i suppose you could have a long reverb >and a short reverb in two separate send and just choose which one >you want to use...? For patch changes, almost all of my plugs can respond to a simple program change. For the ones that won't, I either follow your suggestion above (multiple instantiations of the same plug turned on and off), or, in most cases, I just send CC commands to reconfigure the parameters on the fly. That's another possible use for MIDI clips, BTW, if you have a large chunk of changes you want to make all at once. At 11:24 PM +0100 6/3/09, Simeon Harris wrote: >mech - i've just tried your multiple returns method in Live... one >plugin in each return and using the sends to pass the audio around >the mixer - very nice. one problem though - as soon as i send audio >through any of the returns (even one with no plugins in it) i get >masses of latency all of a sudden....have you noticed this? and is >there a cure? What?!? That's utterly bizarre. No, I've never noticed any latency via the Return channels, in any of the versions of Live I've run. It should all be taking place through digital bussing, so I wouldn't imagine any delay beyond perhaps the single sample level. What version of Live are you running, and what does your hardware/software configuration consist of? Anything else loading down the computer's CPU at the same time, perhaps? This sounds weird.... --m. -- _____ "bye-bye empire; empire, bye-bye" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 00:50:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21A1D3BE7E; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:49:52 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:50:02 +0000 (UTC) At 10:55 AM -0400 6/3/09, Warren Sirota wrote: >Additionally, I've found it pretty easy to fire off MIDI clips to >control the Send levels (amongst other things) of each effect. You >can come up with some wild synchronized effects by using clips to >blast audio into different effects on different beats. Or, you can >come up with some insane tremolo-ized effects by automating the Send >on and off faster than you could ever humanly work a foot pedal. > > >this is brilliant. gotta try it. Thanks Warren! I'd be interested in hearing what you come up with. :) --m. -- _____ "Image is blasphemy. Text is heresy. The spoken word is a lie." X <--- you are here. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 01:15:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDC753BE75; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 01:15:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PUw8hSn1LhBQi8DX6Ck9558xFnGSHFRfZBUH8m/Ag9k=; b=M2IqXZ+ToVpQnu2vzSnirEzQhJtDNRZfDPo8H/e3159PtmjOEMuNw5T6Bti0scuSq/ Mjyrn9w4ANCoLq9hftn61RZ47EX3p714uLKgjQgjlO73WLK2wALxDoCk6m0HQlx6xEYa e5A/po8vvK6yBrwP2EcFC7swDtY9VGQQYGQmo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=SnaaMYeqDkYzPZDjbj0jRJL7hy/vckoDI1CBoBKid9NGsOwXTYIzzJmOmXNYw7kivQ Z60/+ZDin5FtzSL/TJcuvy3NRITaBWxPd9XLbE7ZgCHjSJnRS4ClNnLlQdkt2Q3MQvIC Qvy999THbAPsDqdW3CJ/VYn//pjXZmgnta7MY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 21:15:35 -0400 Message-ID: <9ea2f30b0906031815s36f53f6cxc1da42defe64e153@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644cc6e5c3f14046b7b8337 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 01:15:36 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644cc6e5c3f14046b7b8337 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mech - This is awesome! I took a sabatical from Live the past week because of my frustration with audio effect racks. I've been learning Bidule and with some help from the incredibly kind Per, I was up and running in no time. Using the simple audio switcher in Bidule is so much easier than the rack madness I was dealing with in Live but almost wish I didn't read your post because now I want to go back to Live to see if I can adapt my songs to using almost all send return channels:) When you say your sending a parallel message to turn off effects would both be done with a midi clip? Since I only have the two expression pedals on the fcb and my hands are tied when I play I'm guessing midi clips would be the way to go to automate everything for me. Since I'll have four or return tracks with multiple send knobs on each one I guess you either automate them or you have Novation remote zero-like controller with a bunch of knobs that your able to use while you perform. Thanks again, for helping see routing in Live in a new way. I need to re-read your post a couple more times to wrap my head around it. I've been painting past couple of days and I think the fumes are making me a little slower:) Todd On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Mech wrote: > At 10:55 AM -0400 6/3/09, Warren Sirota wrote: > >> Additionally, I've found it pretty easy to fire off MIDI clips to control >> the Send levels (amongst other things) of each effect. You can come up with >> some wild synchronized effects by using clips to blast audio into different >> effects on different beats. Or, you can come up with some insane >> tremolo-ized effects by automating the Send on and off faster than you could >> ever humanly work a foot pedal. >> >> >> this is brilliant. gotta try it. >> > > Thanks Warren! I'd be interested in hearing what you come up with. :) > > --m. > -- > _____ > "Image is blasphemy. Text is heresy. The spoken word is a lie." > X <--- you are here. > > --0016e644cc6e5c3f14046b7b8337 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mech - This is awesome! I took a sabatical from Live the past week because = of my frustration with audio effect racks. I've been learning Bidule an= d with some help from the incredibly kind Per, I was up and running in no t= ime. Using the simple audio switcher in Bidule is so much easier than the r= ack madness I was dealing with in Live but almost wish I didn't read yo= ur post because now I want to go back to Live to see if I can adapt my song= s to using almost all send return channels:)

When you say your sending a parallel message to turn off effects would = both be done with a midi clip? Since I only have the two expression pedals = on the fcb and my hands are tied when I play I'm guessing midi clips wo= uld be the way to go to automate everything for me. Since I'll have fou= r or return tracks with multiple send knobs on each one I guess you either = automate them or you have Novation remote zero-like controller with a bunch= of knobs that your able to use while you perform.

Thanks again, for helping see routing in Live in a new way. I need to r= e-read your post a couple more times to wrap my head around it. I've be= en painting past couple of days and I think the fumes are making me a littl= e slower:)

Todd

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:49 PM, = Mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:

At 10:55 AM -0400 6/3/09, Warren Sirota wrote:

Additionally, I've found it pretty easy to fire off MIDI clips to contr= ol the Send levels (amongst other things) of each effect. =A0You can come u= p with some wild synchronized effects by using clips to blast audio into di= fferent effects on different beats. =A0Or, you can come up with some insane= tremolo-ized effects by automating the Send on and off faster than you cou= ld ever humanly work a foot pedal.

this is brilliant. gotta try it.

Thanks Warren! =A0I'd be interested in hearing what you come up with. = =A0:)

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--m.
--
_____
"Image is blasphemy. Text is heresy. The spoken word is a lie." =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 X =A0<--- you are here.

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 10:55:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EF5E3BE73; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 10:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Kkmxg7P+G3G6ZFFrNwut+qMyHLRotG7EbK1unU7z0ssMov+tFf42+tQ3k3FgHV8CY2Zzhe24+fdSaW8dOlq9PzLzFM7ACqqJZhu7RhjhspAH+lMK8mlgbJs7pMgCoNqGdFHhcfOSVIjFryIyRcqzliklR2AtyW5KEjCmam/2WnI= ; X-YMail-OSG: I2ZKgHwVM1kvPxkyeC0QTDNUijLMIAn7jyrLd0uXJKW8Q0AlzJg37ZRlgtG2px4iULyh7tbJEOjn.dfex60XjKPNJM0nS1wVPdtU2ADKnR2RivUchrWIQwbvWcd1QI2h9hgXSJ6LkZJy0YYVWYIfqp3A6sLrO10TDeS682ZdFq1tz0tBG16ryfmEW2hHBCQLn2C039.Sbf.cpu5O40hRs7uQhqarSqJb7eyYRH0U4EHrLzoiyIhxp4aGvBajx4Uq7PNrahobTgHqmk1Ikk1c8qJiINU2zI7oaPv3PQeJf8KgIIABPRzNzNsl9pn3fhUMuvThmTnXZjzAZGvCsKXfplp1XbeLQ7CLgrRqQw2YuKi0Pg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <9B9D4E8B497E4950BCAB0EA9BED766EC@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: Subject: Christopher Willits - Looping/Jitter - XLR8R TV Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:55:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0094_01C9E50B.58D75DC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <8PqcVD.A.tcE.jg6JKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 10:55:31 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0094_01C9E50B.58D75DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very interesting - = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DTGvSoGkyKII&feature=3Dsdig&et=3D12440094= 71.24 ------=_NextPart_000_0094_01C9E50B.58D75DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0094_01C9E50B.58D75DC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 12:36:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBB2C3BE79; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 206500536/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.229.122/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.229.122 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtQBAFNcJ0pPTuV6/2dsb2JhbAAIv1qQIIQMBYhf X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,305,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="206500536" Message-ID: <4A27C2BD.4020801@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:49:01 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Christopher Willits - Looping/Jitter - XLR8R TV References: <9B9D4E8B497E4950BCAB0EA9BED766EC@a> In-Reply-To: <9B9D4E8B497E4950BCAB0EA9BED766EC@a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Ricky Graham wrote: > Very interesting - > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGvSoGkyKII&feature=sdig&et=1244009471.24 > ...what made those loud clicking sounds, is that some ultra cool Max patch for a virtual analog clunky switch? :-) It's a nice idea to sync vid with the music, personally I'd prefer not to have a sequencer running the music tho'. It wouldn't be hard to use Bidule ( or I guess Max etc.) to analyse the audio and create midi commands from it based on frequency content and envelope (and tempo synced to any loop if needed). If there was something like Milkdrop that had midi controllable parameters that would be very watchable. Per showed me some nice visualizations on his I-Tunes last year, and I must say they were most impressive. andy butler ( still on hardware......oil wheel projectors sync with everything ) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 12:45:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 386043BE80; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=dy9u2z0Jkxs9JCnzbr9b1pjkVj2msOgebdxuEqGPEaAE/od12VaW5XxPSOLWaBImCs29PeChWxLejosE47nQpQjO7fsIQlBp4RI4lpyTlaUkZYpb4tfP47GD6uNv7IPOBCBVQxxdAmKQ+0sgUuNLVYt+bjTTjz+zrxOwIruw99c= ; X-YMail-OSG: PGYWSV4VM1lTGQm5_T_a0NW9MrPbgh1ziZMQbWvlGEaH_mYFegmQkfqVDGGi2iFqP9LS6ARBidpOAmz75ORb6_EPsi7F0FII95JQbap9pTBwofULBTgYsgUIyXz6prIEffsMpDlxjVWIHTMRYndY7HXlQ3UfG6D126pV1fPTGnbWeLBEGWk6ISSi9HM6J9hvUvW0ScDcTEsAe9Xw3VWu2OlBBrnM6q8q65sQnDLIQlz7YBjflp9truQmknTkf9z.IcDPyivWWN8G686e2cGc0EZUh5xFa4O7IhcLSG5wsHtb X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <219913A852154D89915561EB9DF2B0B4@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <9B9D4E8B497E4950BCAB0EA9BED766EC@a> <4A27C2BD.4020801@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Christopher Willits - Looping/Jitter - XLR8R TV Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:45:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:45:07 +0000 (UTC) > ...what made those loud clicking sounds, is that > some ultra cool Max patch for a virtual analog clunky switch? > :-) > Rumour has it, he has big feet. > It's a nice idea to sync vid with the music, > personally I'd prefer not to have a sequencer running > the music tho'. > > It wouldn't be hard to use Bidule ( or I guess Max etc.) > to analyse the audio and create midi commands from it > based on frequency content and envelope (and tempo synced to > any loop if needed). > > If there was something like Milkdrop that had midi controllable > parameters that would be very watchable. > > Per showed me some nice visualizations on his I-Tunes last > year, and I must say they were most impressive. > > andy butler > ( still on hardware......oil wheel projectors sync with everything ) > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.53/2154 - Release Date: 06/04/09 05:53:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 13:37:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C0703BE7F; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:37:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sgPaMgAh/JE/I9wGarX9Uj9/ioRmaZCCqIxW+Ldqg3k=; b=qxH5wQ4zt1QmJ4b/0ORNbvTQ5+7hg1qpJxfmylNSYyeKMOM/dz9/IKO5juB5ZSEpPV fYnXa4MdM37rMyEdGzFqrOaK5yV7UGFQk8NBdFHF5G8bG9ZpkwRZ6XsFT5vvwPb6pfWK PCesnYrY6mxkzQdyCj9X2pUMh3ptCZbMGY3Jo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=f8A+itZrE1C5ImV+CqLDlUcUdDZ3E84p+ePRYN91jrUjQ0TdcZbtazrzVCUJCuS/P3 sE6npCzKnR1Y8w6XnNtno2qxRlZTxV+8p3cEqxacMpr6XegumeDtJSC3MafVY4nAd3La ph0a5BgXwNGuARZYBiIOdHQhLSFC5gx4zJnRU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:37:25 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f1e7c2548adf046b85e0aa Resent-Message-ID: <_Sh3GC.A.quB.W48JKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:37:26 +0000 (UTC) --001485f1e7c2548adf046b85e0aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ok, tracked down the source of the latency - NI Spektral Delay. just putting it in one of the return channels causes masses of latency - even when it's off shame...cos it's really nice sim On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Mech wrote: > > > At 11:24 PM +0100 6/3/09, Simeon Harris wrote: > >> mech - i've just tried your multiple returns method in Live... one plugin >> in each return and using the sends to pass the audio around the mixer - very >> nice. one problem though - as soon as i send audio through any of the >> returns (even one with no plugins in it) i get masses of latency all of a >> sudden....have you noticed this? and is there a cure? >> > > What?!? That's utterly bizarre. No, I've never noticed any latency via the > Return channels, in any of the versions of Live I've run. It should all be > taking place through digital bussing, so I wouldn't imagine any delay beyond > perhaps the single sample level. > > What version of Live are you running, and what does your hardware/software > configuration consist of? Anything else loading down the computer's CPU at > the same time, perhaps? This sounds weird.... > > --m. > -- > _____ > "bye-bye empire; empire, bye-bye" > > --001485f1e7c2548adf046b85e0aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ok, tracked down the source of the latency - NI Spektral Delay. just puttin= g it in one of the return channels causes masses of latency - even when it&= #39;s off

shame...cos it's really nice

sim

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:

At 11:24 PM +0100 6/3/09, Simeon Harris wrote:

mech - i've just tried your multiple returns method in Live... one plug= in in each return and using the sends to pass the audio around the mixer - = very nice. one problem though - as soon as i send audio through any of the = returns (even one with no plugins in it) i get masses of latency all of a s= udden....have you noticed this? and is there a cure?

What?!? That's utterly bizarre. =A0No, I've never noticed any laten= cy via the Return channels, in any of the versions of Live I've run. = =A0It should all be taking place through digital bussing, so I wouldn't= imagine any delay beyond perhaps the single sample level.

What version of Live are you running, and what does your hardware/software = configuration consist of? =A0Anything else loading down the computer's = CPU at the same time, perhaps? =A0This sounds weird....

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--m.
--
_____
"bye-bye empire; empire, bye-bye"

--001485f1e7c2548adf046b85e0aa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 13:40:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B201A3BE7F; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:40:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=W4TAcd4r27HhquVVg8ZJ044r6N4FH1f+HrVunvRtfmk=; b=UReAquJjAAQ7MsdxMUnAwzo9R15NEjme0Ft8XrHeSXgFYyAcvfKC5wYPDK4FKOZUZI 3L7tGasB70s8nAx8hCzULMXbWolMhl6VDKGK3Djq7fJIaYbMY7md4rzwNSziU9j4JX4W i1iXby9hCqUgK44VW96KxT+X1aXecq4ouxKrM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=oxaQH+w2olKAFWbL2gU03/grMRWPbn47ch2Gglr/H4q/NqpvFsvuLSJaz508oVHPGI t1f2QjiK9neEFf1aPa6j6MwwI7jF5+NDY3B3IhbKNmIlQnDoNxhdtXwNlgSwRtS1UTzS 5+hQHDO9ArGsYrn/0M7Nxe33A4x/V7zGBAt8A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: References: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:40:49 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 06cb73affd62d282 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:40:50 +0000 (UTC) darn those FFTs. do you have a VST version? you might find that it doesn't introduce latency, as (as far as I know) VST plug-ins can't report latency like AUs can. os. 2009/6/4 Simeon Harris : > ok, tracked down the source of the latency - NI Spektral Delay. just putt= ing > it in one of the return channels causes masses of latency - even when it'= s > off > > shame...cos it's really nice > > sim > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Mech wrote: >> >> >> At 11:24 PM +0100 6/3/09, Simeon Harris wrote: >>> >>> mech - i've just tried your multiple returns method in Live... one plug= in >>> in each return and using the sends to pass the audio around the mixer -= very >>> nice. one problem though - as soon as i send audio through any of the >>> returns (even one with no plugins in it) i get masses of latency all of= a >>> sudden....have you noticed this? and is there a cure? >> >> What?!? That's utterly bizarre. =A0No, I've never noticed any latency vi= a >> the Return channels, in any of the versions of Live I've run. =A0It shou= ld all >> be taking place through digital bussing, so I wouldn't imagine any delay >> beyond perhaps the single sample level. >> >> What version of Live are you running, and what does your hardware/softwa= re >> configuration consist of? =A0Anything else loading down the computer's C= PU at >> the same time, perhaps? =A0This sounds weird.... >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--m. >> -- >> _____ >> "bye-bye empire; empire, bye-bye" >> > > --=20 os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 13:42:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B86E83BE93; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XXhMOb+RC8t9ACnr4k3PXO/qy5U8dA2EQ2yRPQIQQpY=; b=Bc7+waaWFwBEXd7IVHqC3M/iHWu6u9dNiahFMh4BlE7UWxEl2kB1vKXNEyVFnxSbGd zm9zfvD08rU6qz+RFfOqNmL7PBlQgLtntX1rw7dh6BBqIdGGxnA0y2alFo1LLNeJmX3j zfNj5dgVjs1axAU50cEIU70gVh/E0sfeglqpw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Zifrqqlgo9MMOp/Hd6iua4CfXMqLER+dz9vWGqadvajudnZFYxvOk4nkApGW+BL24z cAeO4xNPgvDqRjOzlQwCk6HULz32+Sf1awnOHOFL/BcRZaETeZnpco0uw/yClyPHnUB0 7xNsq20BSRrPy/HJJzycBs3rzG5q2a2kQwuMI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:42:29 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f5b10c7a16a7046b85f25a Resent-Message-ID: <0Nmnp.A.jEC.H98JKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:42:31 +0000 (UTC) --001485f5b10c7a16a7046b85f25a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hmm...might do...i'll have a look. thanks mate! On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Os wrote: > darn those FFTs. > > do you have a VST version? you might find that it doesn't introduce > latency, as (as far as I know) VST plug-ins can't report latency like > AUs can. > > > --001485f5b10c7a16a7046b85f25a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hmm...might do...i'll have a look.

thanks mate!

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:

darn those FFTs.

do you have a VST version? you might find that it doesn't introduce
latency, as (as far as I know) VST plug-ins can't report latency like
AUs can.

--001485f5b10c7a16a7046b85f25a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 15:04:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF4F43BE7C; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1244127855; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=YCTuh7ZiI1CHhg7zLzFV2BqHKNs=; b=dInzZ1aLiee2xv0nrQ2lqyABboG3eBYuhIdIlLKZmLRgAlCooz2WxRwzl1j4Szul XTomBxmi4ZpycvQzn6FyVBHiJsgyhC7F8xP5kkus7tY4KESaFSHufN58NED5oAqz; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=OT3O6O8lAAAA:8 a=SwqADZFpgxnUnAvo2K4A:9 a=oMI4V6imFP0lSuUPbKYA:7 a=yfsRS-V-lP856rEz5_rTpeQSR5AA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=vDboLE1g8TvJeYgM:21 a=-knHNpwAG8WHO6ae:21 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000f01c9e525$b9996bc0$74e63547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:04:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:04:15 +0000 (UTC) The 2880 even with it's limitations is one looper I have never regreted getting. What it can do far outweighs what it can't. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 4:25 PM Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices) > I'd pick up a used Electro-harmonix 2880. I really liked it when I > used to use hardware. > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Matt Davignon > wrote: >> So, I'm idly looking into expanding my looping setup, since I'm >> starting to feel the limits of the looper in my Line 6 DL-4. (Mostly >> that 15 seconds at normal speed is too short.) >> >> So I just spent an hour looking at what else is out there and I'm >> feeling a bit discouraged. >> >> What I'm looking for in a looper: >> --Simple & easy to use. >> --at least 30 seconds of looping time >> --Lets me pick start and end points while recording. (Will not try to >> autocorrect my timing, or make me choose loop length before I start.) >> --Reverse function >> --Half Speed function (or even better - a speed dial!) >> --Lets me choose # of repeats when not infinite. >> --Will not drive up the cost of the pedal with stuff I'll never use. >> --smaller than a hardcover book >> >> As far as I can tell, this does not exist. The closest I find is a >> DL-4, which is very easy to use, but as I mentioned, the looping time >> is short and I can't control the # of repeats. It's also heavy enough >> that I don't want to walk around with 2 of them. >> >> I'm pretty disappointed in the concept of the Line 6 JM-4. It costs >> more and doesn't appear to offer more of the stuff I want. Instead it >> offers me the opportunity to play with imaginary musicians, which >> frankly I find insulting. Has anyone used one of these? If you don't >> store loops, how long can a live loop be? Can you get rid of all the >> dumb preset tracks? Is it otherwise as simple as the DL-4? >> >> How about the LoopStation (RC-20)? How long of a loop can you get if >> you don't store anything? Does it have half speed/reverse? >> >> Not looking for rack mounts, software or large pedal boards. I have to >> fit all my gear in a rolling suitcase on public transit. >> >> Shruggingly, >> >> Matt Davignon >> www.ribosomemusic.com >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 15:12:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 280153BE79; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1244128320; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=hRHut8mAT9MqwrSE4dihJbB8yc4=; b=aYf0PjQxCexdWncyyor5lDlN/eDnUMK3TL/5CAh55OuK/XOhHRYm8PgEwW4IX0hC YOsr7on1fbcSPEP+kTSenf+ugCqFwYpDlCmMgcQ6i/mfVRE8c1mg0rKHGOQzkjvu; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=Z5Egsy1uqjvEL7bsiqEA:9 a=T60b2qeotL_iWUcIYhUA:7 a=q90wWeM7XOOYMZwdiJSurJ26wc0A:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001401c9e526$cf270a50$74e63547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0906030508m3eebf3feo4ca8ae959240cb01@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: mastering plug ins Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:11:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:12:01 +0000 (UTC) There was music before computers? :) Really I am thinking that I need to work on improving the audio I am feeding into my DAW. Unless I can find a turd polishing plugin :) If I have a boomy sound why not fix it before recording etc and so on. I am still trying to grasp audio mastering but I get so confused...slowly I go. thanks for all the fish, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 4:52 PM Subject: Re: mastering plug ins > You know, you can spend a lot of time and energy on the mastering > project, but I swear some of the best armature mixes I've heard came > from a guitarist I used to play with. All he did was run his master > buss though a light compressor, graphic EQ and a DBX exciter. (all > hardware, this was pre-computer daw). One day I caught him in the > process and what he did was first run a song with a similar feel > though the setup and look at the display on the graphic EQ while in > bypass. He then ran his program though it and tried to use the eq to > get the same look in the audio spectrum. Hilarious. He admitted he > just used this method as a starting point, but the real truth is, in > the end he probably really good at listening. I suspect the spectrum > display was probably more of a placebo than anything else. He was > only doing 4 track cassette recordings, but his always sounded great. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 15:33:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15E8C3BE7C; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:33:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1244129633; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=A2HaBCjMEIeXIMrtzgXqpuxk1Bw=; b=Djh766CMgBbU3tlwqgGR67kQu2tZJYackEqg/hFo4quMzqoYDftB7khWjUEtMThf hrpjBvnsxFN4YhWvLiuhoUi2EkUvD/IjOtTcVhdEBmIQPorTiZa6kpyYQYZHUTug; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=WnzYjt4fAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=PMF4g2laAAAA:8 a=c9eTbBAgAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=zImPrG2YAAAA:8 a=B8CpycrvAAAA:8 a=8U_8BYAIAAAA:20 a=X8lw9rmGAAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=dteb6b4ygn8ou6XjyVQA:9 a=PuV2Bc9kgOLZNVU3_qcA:7 a=40CZzxuaYrNkWDQZE_YPEW4NO4cA:4 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001001c9e529$ddb0c860$74e63547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0906030508m3eebf3feo4ca8ae959240cb01@mail.gmail.com> <001401c9e526$cf270a50$74e63547@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: OT: Re: mastering plug ins Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:33:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <_QDvNC.A.w4F.hl-JKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:33:53 +0000 (UTC) Ok, let me ask this question then. How do you all record and prepare audio for the web and for your releases? I am sure there is many different ways to get good sounding tunes up. All of mine is released in varying qualities of mp3s. Sometimes I record on mindisk if I am away from my computer. At home I feed a stereo line in from a mixer into Audacity or now Sound Forge. I used to record in 16 bit but now have moved to 24. Anyone can reply off list if this is going off topic too badly. I am kind of stuck in a loop on this in the middle of recording alot. I am trying to rethink what I am doing a bit. Jeff Ad astra per alia porci - Steinbeck http://jeffduke.org/ http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://virb.com/jeffduke http://www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://www.justin.tv/loopslab http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Duke" To: Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: mastering plug ins > There was music before computers? :) > Really I am thinking that I need to work on improving the audio I am > feeding into my DAW. Unless I can find a turd polishing plugin :) > If I have a boomy sound why not fix it before recording etc and so on. I > am still trying to grasp audio mastering but I get so confused...slowly I > go. > > thanks for all the fish, > > Jeff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Sottilaro" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 4:52 PM > Subject: Re: mastering plug ins > > >> You know, you can spend a lot of time and energy on the mastering >> project, but I swear some of the best armature mixes I've heard came >> from a guitarist I used to play with. All he did was run his master >> buss though a light compressor, graphic EQ and a DBX exciter. (all >> hardware, this was pre-computer daw). One day I caught him in the >> process and what he did was first run a song with a similar feel >> though the setup and look at the display on the graphic EQ while in >> bypass. He then ran his program though it and tried to use the eq to >> get the same look in the audio spectrum. Hilarious. He admitted he >> just used this method as a starting point, but the real truth is, in >> the end he probably really good at listening. I suspect the spectrum >> display was probably more of a placebo than anything else. He was >> only doing 4 track cassette recordings, but his always sounded great. >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 16:07:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 486753BE7C; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:07:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wWctNx1dpkOm62TdoUIP4Jna3AZ6nb6RKTu2J/6jF+I=; b=Doy6ePY504tHOASGVC8hpDyP657wshOLbk5NPnba64ytqbDs27wvfGo3cJ94ncPmLB +68VNjmph66C3qD7XwrcXZem97cTLEmp/ylteTGMr60maLEk3mCF4Z4ue8F5A0nJf81v nCSCO+sF6Z1vrXlGYX3Sb/uerlFpuxVDTVR1M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WiIu7/6h81nbIRXq2AdgORne8PPpw8t7lGm81S14HwjZ01NCcMmOBgaK1C1lOwMdvi XxI6dyNFqRr7X8OJZJoA4WRjwovKlF1BZ/DisDvbwHa/SMu+njpuaWAocy7wYsXQMaGT 2oZfIKQvRdZTLRrC/avwvKRpkXAv/2gBu8Hsg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001401c9e526$cf270a50$74e63547@YOUR08D5303051> References: <7334ca1b0906030508m3eebf3feo4ca8ae959240cb01@mail.gmail.com> <001401c9e526$cf270a50$74e63547@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 18:01:24 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mastering plug ins From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:07:34 +0000 (UTC) agree. that's the point. feeding a better signal to your DAW. always there's room for improvement, even at home. 2009/6/4, Jeff Duke : > There was music before computers? :) > Really I am thinking that I need to work on improving the audio I am feeding > into my DAW. Unless I can find a turd polishing plugin :) > If I have a boomy sound why not fix it before recording etc and so on. I am > still trying to grasp audio mastering but I get so confused...slowly I go. > > thanks for all the fish, > > Jeff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Sottilaro" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 4:52 PM > Subject: Re: mastering plug ins > > >> You know, you can spend a lot of time and energy on the mastering >> project, but I swear some of the best armature mixes I've heard came >> from a guitarist I used to play with. All he did was run his master >> buss though a light compressor, graphic EQ and a DBX exciter. (all >> hardware, this was pre-computer daw). One day I caught him in the >> process and what he did was first run a song with a similar feel >> though the setup and look at the display on the graphic EQ while in >> bypass. He then ran his program though it and tried to use the eq to >> get the same look in the audio spectrum. Hilarious. He admitted he >> just used this method as a starting point, but the real truth is, in >> the end he probably really good at listening. I suspect the spectrum >> display was probably more of a placebo than anything else. He was >> only doing 4 track cassette recordings, but his always sounded great. >> >> > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 16:39:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B14B83BE79; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:39:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:39:39 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b0906031815s36f53f6cxc1da42defe64e153@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b0906031815s36f53f6cxc1da42defe64e153@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 01:29:32 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:39:39 +0000 (UTC) At 9:15 PM -0400 6/3/09, Todd Matthews wrote: >Mech - This is awesome! Wow, thanks! I'm glad that I was able to clear up a few problems. Live's routing is one of the things that keeps me coming back to it every time I try to run away. For some reason, this has always just clicked for me on the most basic level (send effects vs. insert effects) so I didn't see much sense in complicating it further. However, I surely can't take credit for the MIDI clips stuff. I first heard the idea from "the incredibly kind Per" a while back. And I think Zoe also uses them (or used to) for firing off commands during her set, IIRC. About the only thing I might take credit for could possibly be using MIDI clips to 'hocket' control commands faster than the human eye -- turning them into de facto LFO's. But, y'know, I'm kinda demented that way, I guess. Regardless of the source, they're a great device and rock mightily. But thank you for the recognition nonetheless. :D >Using the simple audio switcher in Bidule is so much easier than the >rack madness I was dealing with in Live Oh yeah, I really like Bidule as well. Although I haven't really used it much lately, I did build a MIDI looper with it last year. The flexibility is fantastic, and saves me from having to learn Max/MSP. Unfortunately for me, though, it seems I'm even lazier than that. Live seems to have become my path of least resistance. Whenever I get a harebrained idea (and, trust me, this happens quite often) I can usually mock it up most quickly in Live, so that's what I end up reaching for first. >When you say your sending a parallel message to turn off effects >would both be done with a midi clip? Yep! That's another good use, now that you mention it: using a clip as a "shim". Let's say that you can only send a single message from your controller. Use it to fire a clip, and use the clip to fire off as many more messages as you need. They can be other "one-shot" messages to turn effects on or off, or a continuous stream to automate levels or fades, for instance, or a mixture of all those simultaneously. Conceivably, you could use your FCB only to send messages to activate MIDI clips. Those clips would then act as 'little helpers' and fire off all the other commands you might need. Of course, some parameters are better suited for realtime control. But, like you said, you've got two expression pedals you could use there. >Thanks again, for helping see routing in Live in a new way. I need >to re-read your post a couple more times to wrap my head around it. >I've been painting past couple of days and I think the fumes are >making me a little slower:) And if you have any questions or need any help getting it to work, don't hesitate to ask. :) Thanks again for the kudos! --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 16:40:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 063A83BE7C; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:40:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 409 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:40:55 UTC Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <66f9cc1e0901171748r4c83bfd6w5fbbfc1279c4370c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Test Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:34:05 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:40:55 +0000 (UTC) Test. Apologies. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 16:41:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F1963BE84; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <935ADBC4F1C343C797EECD6F69A1566C@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <66f9cc1e0901171748r4c83bfd6w5fbbfc1279c4370c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Test and Apologies Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:41:37 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <_P7a-.A.WT.Cl_JKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Test. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 16:42:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD3173BE84; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 01:42:33 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:42:40 +0000 (UTC) At 2:37 PM +0100 6/4/09, Simeon Harris wrote: >ok, tracked down the source of the latency - NI Spektral Delay. just >putting it in one of the return channels causes masses of latency - >even when it's off Really? Wow, it's been a while since I played with that one, but I do seem to remember some strange behavior last time I tried setting it up. Then I got distracted by some other shiny thing and never followed up on it. :P I do remember that the display munches more CPU, and that I had a difficult time when using it on setups where I was close to spiking. I always had to remind myself to close the darn display. Now I'm going to have to see if any of NI's other plugs have similar issues. Hrmmmmmm.... --m. -- _____ "when you think your dreams are shattered, it's time to dream new dreams" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 17:14:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D19503BE78; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0Id/45AeKJDo9OtSOLYg5prHGHmfEGq+d4O+IOCzJUw=; b=DqwnV6GNnG7DeA3QzlLQBVfq43KWYYe1YW7fnLkIOrgu/pwg91cUIeZvCyLhSK448T qNUk9iIZOpoUVv6drloZ8YV7mn4LD/kw7fmwNIyb4TWcdi/HJIaOv4FxsG0+XPgl4Sw/ TllA9dTQB3nO3r9xMHNnI0gv7NVI4SCYpim/Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=dU/Z4KZiL/4LPtzAZ6gusVpOc02ywP3ALyCvd+cTyA8zWeEaRGzwXyG+asLc0wie9s lFvNNGbECZd0sKaYXnyIMe1DpWtXdPe2ZP9VthWl09UrXQiY+ydpiq3QaZaei4DEf0rl 4LdsxrMVi7uYxVUlJdVDOf/Wh+sZNqOFWbYGE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b0906031815s36f53f6cxc1da42defe64e153@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 18:14:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f9a858e87c99046b88e9c2 Resent-Message-ID: <1ogup.A.n5D.NEAKKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:14:53 +0000 (UTC) --001485f9a858e87c99046b88e9c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit now that's sparked my interest....i'd like ot be able to send one pc message from my footcontroller and have a midi clip send a bunch of commands to the mixer to change the "send" values...and perhaps send some pc messages to those plugins that can deal with them to change patches unfortunately, i have absolutely no idea how to do it! just looked at the manual and figured out how to create a new midi clip - looked at it's clip view and i see you can select "mixer" for the destination of the midi. but what do you draw in the big panel on the right? sorry mate, i've a livedunce! On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Mech wrote: > At 9:15 PM -0400 6/3/09, Todd Matthews wrote: > >> Mech - > > > When you say your sending a parallel message to turn off effects would >> both be done with a midi clip? >> > > Conceivably, you could use your FCB only to send messages to activate MIDI > clips. Those clips would then act as 'little helpers' and fire off all the > other commands you might need. > > --001485f9a858e87c99046b88e9c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable now that's sparked my interest....i'd like ot be able to send one p= c message from my footcontroller and have a midi clip send a bunch of comma= nds to the mixer to change the "send" values...and perhaps send s= ome pc messages to those plugins that can deal with them to change patches<= br>
unfortunately, i have absolutely no idea how to do it!

just look= ed at the manual and figured out how to create a new midi clip - looked at = it's clip view and i see you can select "mixer" for the desti= nation of the midi. but what do you draw in the big panel on the right?

sorry mate, i've a livedunce!

On = Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Mech <mech3@m3ch.net> wrote:

At 9:15 PM -0400 6/3/09, Todd Matthews wrote:

Mech -

When you say your sending a parallel message to turn off effects would both= be done with a midi clip?

Conceivably, you could use your FCB only to send messages to activate MIDI = clips. =A0Those clips would then act as 'little helpers' and fire o= ff all the other commands you might need.

--001485f9a858e87c99046b88e9c2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 17:35:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACCF43BE7E; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:35:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=TQb+CzQftBn81NaNRFF4N6Omj/y8KUFMEqYXp91ZfdE=; b=RCNkA1IWnwTAaRiJ2eHc6S9qUPrBwyW6y2JPxEgkP4UFMxSGOQ6ax/JsEN/rtu22Zt VY6uOy36LGLEzlEPAk7gFRWtA9j9AKjuEIufHVZ0cvdYDOZ92Su4pOQM7Try+WNVbEpj U49zKo6Ne4odS/lvXAe5OcEV/nNkIkbn01wno= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=Fd8MtZlH0AyhElrsHAQ82TQKKxzvXb+w83bDMK9pIagXi2rUXpA7+TqZ4wQg9lvHC4 ruGI1Jzy2ghORDuLyDA9eaGkUqHJikF599+m+h0YaRZ1Kbo611wCuf+TV+W/Ifxy0ybE JwfrATgsEZD6z2uON6qPjt89PQnLaxWBG2Jo4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0905150416t179c0273v8955d7779637ce9a@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905311315r1c3616f9jb522519d67360d65@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905311331n1ea11596uf1433adec0b52118@mail.gmail.com> <4A23A69D.7020604@tiscali.co.uk> From: Daniel Hegarty Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 18:34:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP and Logic Glitches To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174beeb8c1c9f7046b8932c1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:35:14 +0000 (UTC) --0015174beeb8c1c9f7046b8932c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry to be a pest! Does anyone have any thoughts on any avenues I could try, I'm really stuck on this one :( Thanks Daniel 2009/6/1 Daniel Hegarty > Hey Andy, > Thanks so much! > > As per your request, I've made a diagram. I think this may push me over the > edge of a polite request for help, but this issue is waking me sweating in > the nights! > > I've tried to include all the detail I can in the diagram, but I'd like to > address some of your points below: > > > 1. You're correct about midi clock. It is being sent but I am not > utilising it. I'm setting the SUS messages to be just one frame short of the > full bar length. e.g on an 8 bar loop in 4/4, i'll set the note length to be > 7 3 3 239. This seems to work fine, as I've had issues whenever I've tried > to send concurrent messages to a single EDP. > 2. I use the GeneralReset at the beginning of each 'track' in the set. > As otherwise during rehearsal we have issues with their being audio on > moreloops=2 etc. > 3. All midi commands in and out of the sequencer have their own > dedicated input/output and cable. I don't know a great deal about midi > merging so I'm not sure if that is the issue. I'm wondering if it's all to > much for my dual core 2.6ghz MacBook Pro with 4gb of RAM to handle. Sounds > for the soft synths are coming off an external drive via firewire 800. > Perhaps a rack mounted G5 would solve the problem! If perhaps I need to run > a slave sequencer just controlling the EDPs, is there one that you suggest? > I tried exporting the Midi files into Abletone Live, but peculiarly the > single frame reset notes didn't make it! Very odd. I'm very comfortable with > Midi editing in Logic so it would be a bit of a learning curve to go > elsewhere, but at this point i'll try anything! > > Anyway, most of the above is included in the diagram, any help would be > very very gratefully received. I've included some screenshots from Logic > which should give a good idea of how i'm manipulating the EDPs. > > Thanks again! > Daniel > > 2009/6/1 andy butler > > Hi Daniel, >> without a diagram or a detailed description of your setup >> it's pretty much impossible for anyone to diagnose your >> problem. We're just guessing based on assumptions. >> >> From what you say below, about needing to use SUS commands >> I'd guess that you're sending midi clock to the edps, >> and not using it. Indeed, midi-clock sync doesn't work well with sequenced >> edps >> (Claude Voit worked that out, and he's the guy who got >> the EDP midi response up to spec ). >> So set your EDPs to sync = OFF, >> and then the way to keep them synced is to use the Restart command as >> often as needed. >> Having done that, you *can* use regular Record=TOG, >> ..but the SUS commands will be as good, stick with >> what you're comfortable with. >> Incidentally, you don't need to send Reset before >> starting a new Recording (unless you want to). >> >> Maybe Claude, (who I suspect of filtering this list for posts >> with his name in) will chip in here, probably will if >> I got something wrong. >> (hi Claude :-) >> >> Didn't you say *all* the midi info was going to the EDPs? >> ...and the occasional note is lost when you mix live >> playing with EDP sequencing. >> This would point to the loss happening wherever the sequenced >> midi, and the live midi are merged. >> If that happens in your software, the software is buggy at >> midi-merging. Either >> 1) Use a hardware midi merger in your system >> 2) Use different software >> 3) Send the EDP commands down a completely separate midi cable. >> >> >> andy butler >> >> Daniel Hegarty wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Sorry for being dense, just a couple of clarifications! >>> >>> 1. Say for example, on one of the EDPs, I need to record a 4 bar >>> loop, and then reset that loop later, and then record an unrelated >>> 2 bar loop. How do I alter the loop length if not by using the >>> SUSrecord function? When I've experimented with quantizing, it >>> appeared to me that I could only set a fixed loop length using the >>> 8th/cycle parameter. This obviously wouldn't be sufficient for the >>> use case i describe above. i.e. When in quantize mode i press >>> record once to start recording the loop, i then press it again, >>> but the stop is determined by the 8th/cycle parameter rather than >>> my button press. My impression was that Sync=In, and Quantize was >>> to be used when using a fixed length loop which you wished to >>> develop and perform operations on. If that's not the case, I'd be >>> very interested in how to very the loop lengths on the fly, so to >>> speak. >>> 2. I assume the pre-delay option is only useful in the case of using >>> the EDP quantize as otherwise it would cause the commands not to >>> be sent out precisely on time. >>> >>> I have a horrible feeling I've wasted a lot of time going about this the >>> wrong way! Thanks so much for your patience. >>> >>> Daniel >>> >>> >> www.boysen.se >>> www.perboysen.com >>> >>> >>> >> > --0015174beeb8c1c9f7046b8932c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry to be a pest!

Does anyone have any thoughts on any avenues I c= ould try, I'm really stuck on this one :(

Thanks
Daniel

2009/6/1 Daniel Hegarty <= danielphegarty@googlemail.= com>

Hey Andy,
Thanks so much!

As per your request, I= 've made a diagram. I think this may push me over the edge of a polite = request for help, but this issue is waking me sweating in the nights!

I've tried to include all the detail I can in the d= iagram, but I'd like to address some of your points below:
You're correct about midi clock. It is being sent = but I am not utilising it. I'm setting the SUS messages to be just one = frame short of the full bar length. e.g on an 8 bar loop in 4/4, i'll s= et the note length to be 7 3 3 239. This seems to work fine, as I've ha= d issues whenever I've tried to send concurrent messages to a single ED= P.

I use the GeneralReset at the beginning of each 'track' in the = set. As otherwise during rehearsal we have issues with their being audio on= moreloops=3D2 etc.
All midi commands in and out of the sequencer h= ave their own dedicated input/output and cable. I don't know a great de= al about midi merging so I'm not sure if that is the issue. I'm won= dering if it's all to much for my dual core 2.6ghz MacBook Pro with 4gb= of RAM to handle. Sounds for the soft synths are coming off an external dr= ive via firewire 800. Perhaps a rack mounted G5 would solve the problem! If= perhaps I need to run a slave sequencer just controlling the EDPs, is ther= e one that you suggest? I tried exporting the Midi files into Abletone Live= , but peculiarly the single frame reset notes didn't make it! Very odd.= I'm very comfortable with Midi editing in Logic so it would be a bit o= f a learning curve to go elsewhere, but at this point i'll try anything= !

Anyway, most of the above is included in the diagram, any help wo= uld be very very gratefully=A0received. I've included some screenshots = from Logic which should give a good idea of how i'm manipulating the ED= Ps.

Thanks again!
Daniel

2009/6/1 andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>

Hi Daniel,
without a diagram or a detailed description of your setup
it's pretty much impossible for anyone to diagnose your
problem. We're just guessing based on assumptions.

>From what you say below, about needing to use SUS commands
I'd guess that you're sending midi clock to the edps,
and not using it. Indeed, midi-clock sync doesn't work well with sequen= ced edps
(Claude Voit worked that out, and he's the guy who got
the EDP midi response up to spec ).
So set your EDPs to sync =3D OFF,
and then the way to keep them synced is to use the Restart command as often= as needed.
Having done that, you *can* use regular Record=3DTOG,
..but the SUS commands will be as good, stick with
what you're comfortable with.
Incidentally, you don't need to send Reset before
starting a new Recording (unless you want to).

Maybe Claude, (who I suspect of filtering this list for posts
with his name in) will chip in here, probably will if
I got something wrong.
(hi Claude :-)

Didn't you say *all* the midi info was going to the EDPs?
...and the occasional note is lost when you mix live
playing with EDP sequencing.
This would point to the loss happening wherever the sequenced
midi, and the =A0 live midi are merged.
If that happens in your software, the software is buggy at
midi-merging. Either
1) Use a hardware midi merger in your system
2) Use different software
3) Send the EDP commands down a completely separate midi cable.

andy butler

Daniel Hegarty wrote:

Hi,

Sorry for being dense, just a couple of clarifications!

=A0 1. Say for example, on one of the EDPs, I need to record a 4 bar
<= br> =A0 =A0 =A0loop, and then reset that loop later, and then record an unrela= ted
=A0 =A0 =A02 bar loop. How do I alter the loop length if not by using the<= br> =A0 =A0 =A0SUSrecord function? When I've experimented with quantizing,= it
=A0 =A0 =A0appeared to me that I could only set a fixed loop length using = the
=A0 =A0 =A08th/cycle parameter. This obviously wouldn't be sufficient = for the
=A0 =A0 =A0use case i describe above. i.e. When in quantize mode i press =A0 =A0 =A0record once to start recording the loop, i then press it again,=
=A0 =A0 =A0but the stop is determined by the 8th/cycle parameter rather th= an
=A0 =A0 =A0my button press. My impression was that Sync=3DIn, and Quantize= was
=A0 =A0 =A0to be used when using a fixed length loop which you wished to =A0 =A0 =A0develop and perform operations on. If that's not the case, = I'd be
=A0 =A0 =A0very interested in how to very the loop lengths on the fly, so = to
=A0 =A0 =A0speak.
=A0 2. I assume the pre-delay option is only useful in the case of using
=A0 =A0 =A0the EDP quantize as otherwise it would cause the commands not t= o
=A0 =A0 =A0be sent out precisely on time.

I have a horrible feeling I've wasted a lot of time going about this th= e wrong way! Thanks so much for your patience.

Daniel

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--0015174beeb8c1c9f7046b8932c1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 18:00:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94A5A3BE81; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 18:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1244138408; bh=re5wpQ2Rbu7xav0PzOLeP58vAlpc+G7emIKG7aeQpF4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YOtlCQLjo4ahAhftOMbijKHosFV0K4JF4ueWVuXFn42PCbIsCSKmmAi5FwfXzsU4EVES2v1dAafacmWZrEKHnKwbAWngcDU8Ik6bOIo2CwZoyJy6yzfyTEXGAsxM0qniSx7XM0HAgOfOI2rJbLnSbroj4Mxf5dy+wihyQfztE8g= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kNvPsgfrg9S06n4blDvItUPPEXA75ftJTs/0MXRe4mXm315u8UdxIQjkKR710bCHdBkS0+/fOeH3YgpJgsBcgOvTECBNoH0uFlpMo7wL/IfNrHnNgHOYNTTvJLJtNX90WWX3Y24QoTbSu34OPdeT+HYqP9QMhY1uiOLok5qv5Uk=; Message-ID: <454925.38906.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 5DiX6L4VM1lQvrsjI04MRH5kuMaZsFZGjOMziT.KFWhxZOCIGzI4pEZdPqUgf1c5gdzX55AQu_mHabaIJMCbUogXyi8okr2s4aN31xwblF.JHY.W4r4bK_zlOdpXYZZzV2B9Uxb.nKtExoYWTEdlns3q_GFvkKmL9guQPFMJyf7CsENxPVzo7qTu7D4iQ1K2euC_B59Au4fAH7a5m9LVMTEya3FgqYOUHOLCFEG_2krDziGXdTRUUbpNBVcUZfDC66Fx6UWdXFPM0vWMVFMzAzHayC2HwhgIDVRd_5J3bz1Az2_gSX8PSLfy_sYz513rqg53mFFMaU4n7URjiC2t_oMtUdXO4bxGeGxuFEGOI8WgSdI1CYvhQA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:00:08 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: blech (pedal choices) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-413160350-1244138408=:38906" Resent-Message-ID: <2HGY4.A.LYF.suAKKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 18:00:12 +0000 (UTC) --0-413160350-1244138408=:38906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> How about the LoopStation (RC-20)? How long of a loop can you get if >> you don't store anything? Does it have half speed/reverse? the original rc-20 (which i have) has 5 min of record time. it can go fwd and reverse. i like it, gets the job done. it has some tap tempo thing that allows you to change the tempo of the loop, but i think it doesn't work so well. i wish there was a knob that just controlled the speed or length of the loop, for slow down or speed up (THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!). i do like the reverse though, you can get some crazy things going w/ fwd and reverse, etc.. the rc-20xl that came out after has 16 min of record time. honestly i've never came close to using the full time of my 5 min of my original.... in the vids i've seen for the EH stereo memory man w/ hazari, i like the loop function and the way you can mangle the loop (speed (pitch) and filter), but i didn't like that to record a loop you have to keep the button pressed the whole time (the boss rc-you press switch to record, press again to stop, which i like-some complain about hard to get accurate time w/ that, not a problem for me, anyway)...but i have liked what i've seen of the EHsmm w/H- in vids & it has 30 sec of loop time....i should say that i keep all my pedals at hands reach on my desk, not a footstomper, the other new option is the digitech timebender, just recently out-i 've heard good things from some folks online, and it's the same price as digitech's jamman ($299)...seems like it has some combos things from the boss slicer... if you need portable-the boss rc-2, single pedal, but it's just loop w/ overdub (up to 16 min), but no real manipulating of it, but the main thing is it is small & portable.... oh, and there is the boss dd20, the 23 sec of delay available, i didn't really like it, sold mine, but others have liked it, etc.... i have no experience w/ the line 6 stuff, check archives for that..... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=235503632389016121 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5791548553161416906&hl=en --0-413160350-1244138408=:38906 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

>> How about the LoopStation (RC-20)? How long of a loop can you get if
>> you don't store anything? Does it have half speed/reverse?

the original rc-20 (which i have) has 5 min of record time. it can go fwd and reverse. i like it, gets the job done. it has some tap tempo thing that allows you to change the tempo of the loop, but i think it doesn't work so well. i wish there was a knob that just controlled the speed or length of the loop, for slow down or speed up (THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!). i do like the reverse though, you can get some crazy things going w/ fwd and reverse, etc..

the rc-20xl that came out after has 16 min of record time. honestly i've never came close to using the full time of my 5 min of my original....

in the vids i've seen for the EH stereo memory man w/ hazari, i like the loop function and the way you can mangle the loop (speed (pitch) and filter), but i didn't like that to record a loop you have to keep the button pressed the whole time (the boss rc-you press switch to record, press again to stop, which i like-some complain about hard to get accurate time w/ that, not a problem for me, anyway)...but i have liked what i've seen of the EHsmm w/H- in vids & it has 30 sec of loop time....i should say that i keep all my pedals at hands reach on my desk, not a footstomper,

the other new option is the digitech timebender, just recently out-i 've heard good things from some folks online, and it's the same price as digitech's jamman ($299)...seems like it has some combos things from the boss slicer...

if you need portable-the boss rc-2, single pedal, but it's just loop w/ overdub (up to 16 min), but no real manipulating of it, but the main thing is it is small & portable....

oh, and there is the boss dd20, the 23 sec of delay available, i didn't really like it, sold mine, but others have liked it, etc....
i have no experience w/ the line 6 stuff, check archives for that.....
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www.myspace.com/scotthansen
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5791548553161416906&hl=en

--0-413160350-1244138408=:38906-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 18:13:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 792A13BE79; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 18:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 209533903/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.229.122/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.229.122 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At0BABirJ0pPTuV6/2dsb2JhbAAI0AiECwWIXw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,306,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="209533903" Message-ID: <4A2811A9.6090009@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:25:45 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP and Logic Glitches References: <66f9cc1e0905150416t179c0273v8955d7779637ce9a@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905311315r1c3616f9jb522519d67360d65@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905311331n1ea11596uf1433adec0b52118@mail.gmail.com> <4A23A69D.7020604@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4H3M8B.A.G6F.v6AKKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 18:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Daniel Hegarty wrote: > Sorry to be a pest! > > Does anyone have any thoughts on any avenues I could try, I'm really > stuck on this one :( > > Thanks > Daniel > > 2009/6/1 Daniel Hegarty > > > Hey Andy, > > Thanks so much! > > As per your request, I've made a diagram. do you have a link for it? mailing lists don't "do" graphics :-( (you can just send it to me if you like(and to Per)) >I think this may push me > over the edge of a polite request for help, but this issue is waking > me sweating in the nights! > > I've tried to include all the detail I can in the diagram, but I'd > like to address some of your points below: > > 1. You're correct about midi clock. It is being sent but I am not > utilising it. I'm setting the SUS messages to be just one > frame short of the full bar length. e.g on an 8 bar loop in > 4/4, i'll set the note length to be 7 3 3 239. This seems to > work fine, as I've had issues whenever I've tried to send > concurrent messages to a single EDP. Looks like you are using the clock for sync. ..but doesn't matter, it's not an edp problem > 2. I use the GeneralReset at the beginning of each 'track' in the > set. As otherwise during rehearsal we have issues with their > being audio on moreloops=2 etc. right > 3. All midi commands in and out of the sequencer have their own > dedicated input/output and cable. I don't know a great deal > about midi merging so I'm not sure if that is the issue. it would seem that it isn't >I'm > wondering if it's all to much for my dual core 2.6ghz MacBook > Pro with 4gb of RAM to handle. Sounds for the soft synths are > coming off an external drive via firewire 800. Perhaps a rack > mounted G5 would solve the problem! If perhaps I need to run a > slave sequencer just controlling the EDPs, is there one that > you suggest? I tried exporting the Midi files into Abletone > Live, but peculiarly the single frame reset notes didn't make > it! Very odd. I'm very comfortable with Midi editing in Logic > so it would be a bit of a learning curve to go elsewhere, but > at this point i'll try anything! As I understand it ( so could be way off ;-) You're using Logic to host soft synths played live, while it also sends out sequenced midi to the EDPs. When everything's running and you're playing in notes from your keyboard the sequenced midi is dropping notes. So it's not an EDP problem as such. Without the diagram I'm kinda guessing. 1) Possibly it's logic can't handle all that live and sequenced midi 2) possibly the drivers for the midi interface are the problem 3) OSX could theoretically not be up to it. If the audio isn't breaking up at all, then a "bigger" mac is unlikely to solve. So some tentative fixes for the above scenarios 1) a) ask on a Logic related forum, any bugfixes you need to install? b)Host the soft synths for live playing in a different host. (e.g. Bidule) 2)a) make sure you have latest version of the drivers b) try an alternative (or additional) midi interface 3) wish I hadn't said that :-) andy > > Anyway, most of the above is included in the diagram, any help would > be very very gratefully received. I've included some screenshots > from Logic which should give a good idea of how i'm manipulating the > EDPs. > > Thanks again! > Daniel > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 18:55:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09DF83BE80; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 18:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9E545.D05B6A6C" Subject: RE: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:52:58 -0400 Message-ID: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08230EE6D4BF@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? Thread-Index: AcnlRa1X77V7bpmRSzGkm4oodCbYFQ== References: From: "Dean, Hal " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jun 2009 18:53:57.0026 (UTC) FILETIME=[D07F0820:01C9E545] Resent-Message-ID: <2OqC7C.A.TjH.RiBKKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 18:55:13 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9E545.D05B6A6C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very interesting discussion. The MIDI message triggering a batch of other MIDI messages thing is something I've been doing in Bidule, where it is very easy to do. I call this the nuclear reaction strategy. =20 I had saved Zoe's post about how she uses Live clips to trigger a batch of MIDI messages to navigate her set and just read it again this week as I am about to dive into learning Live. Mech, your tips are extremely timely for me. =20 One thing I've found, related to something Zoe said about here Repeaters, is that there is usually a choke point for MIDI messages. In Bidule, feeding Mobius a stream of guitar signal, effected guitar signal, soft synths, and output from a chain of VSTs processing the guitar and soft synths, all while Mobius is playing back loops, I have time and again discovered that when I get carried away with a lot of quick commands to Mobius, the soft synths, and the VSTs ... crash. I take away the lesson that one does not get carried away. =20 But the "superhuman MIDI firing" you're talking about suggest Live may be better at handling this intense MIDI stream. It will take awhile, but I intend to explore this. =20 Hal Dean =20 From: Simeon Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:15 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? =20 now that's sparked my interest....i'd like ot be able to send one pc message from my footcontroller and have a midi clip send a bunch of commands to the mixer to change the "send" values...and perhaps send some pc messages to those plugins that can deal with them to change patches unfortunately, i have absolutely no idea how to do it! just looked at the manual and figured out how to create a new midi clip - looked at it's clip view and i see you can select "mixer" for the destination of the midi. but what do you draw in the big panel on the right? sorry mate, i've a livedunce! On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Mech wrote: At 9:15 PM -0400 6/3/09, Todd Matthews wrote: Mech -=20 =20 When you say your sending a parallel message to turn off effects would both be done with a midi clip? =20 Conceivably, you could use your FCB only to send messages to activate MIDI clips. Those clips would then act as 'little helpers' and fire off all the other commands you might need. =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9E545.D05B6A6C Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Very interesting discussion. The MIDI message triggering = a batch of other MIDI messages thing is something I’ve been doing in = Bidule, where it is very easy to do. I call this the nuclear reaction = strategy.

I had saved Zoe’s post about how she uses Live = clips to trigger a batch of MIDI messages to navigate her set and just read it = again this week as I am about to dive into learning Live. Mech, your tips are extremely timely for me.

One thing I’ve found, related to something Zoe said = about here Repeaters, is that there is usually a choke point for MIDI = messages. In Bidule, feeding Mobius a stream of guitar signal, effected guitar signal, soft = synths, and output from a chain of VSTs processing the guitar and soft synths, = all while Mobius is playing back loops, I have time and again discovered = that when I get carried away with a lot of quick commands to Mobius, the soft = synths, and the VSTs … crash. I take away the lesson that one does not get = carried away.

But the “superhuman MIDI firing” you’re talking about suggest Live may be better at handling this intense MIDI = stream. It will take awhile, but I intend to explore this.

Hal Dean

From:= Simeon = Harris [mailto:simeonharris40@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:15 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a = hand?

now that's sparked = my interest....i'd like ot be able to send one pc message from my = footcontroller and have a midi clip send a bunch of commands to the mixer to change the "send" values...and perhaps send some pc messages to those = plugins that can deal with them to change patches

unfortunately, i have absolutely no idea how to do it!

just looked at the manual and figured out how to create a new midi clip = - looked at it's clip view and i see you can select "mixer" for the destination of the midi. but what do you draw in the big panel on the = right?

sorry mate, i've a livedunce!

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Mech <mech3@m3ch.net> = wrote:

At 9:15 PM -0400 6/3/09, Todd Matthews = wrote:

Mech -

When you say your sending a parallel message to = turn off effects would both be done with a midi clip?

Conceivably, you = could use your FCB only to send messages to activate MIDI clips. Those clips = would then act as 'little helpers' and fire off all the other commands you might = need.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C9E545.D05B6A6C-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 19:15:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B77F3BE86; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:15:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1244142908; bh=DO/4YJ8oprudyzXRma/ydgJxfkq548rFV65QfhTqplI=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To:Cc; b=u8LEpPK2hFkBA4Tc/ZcvM59evc35Bj5jsX82dr1CJB0Vg0n17nrIvlUuKYmD3UODI QaSGJBRIvm9qzllnkbAk/UIkEKM16XIJpVx/rJIFD6gHPesPaag3bMkHuaKOtLYobL BXCnIf7KxMPAeaZvAQO78lGgslWNWgkwAmh2aq14= Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 21:15:07 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: RE: Antwerp Loopfest - video MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "billwalker" Cc: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 151.16.209.165 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <46y_SD.A.8R.B1BKKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:15:13 +0000 (UTC) > Lovely music Darkroom Dudes, and big congratulations on a great Festiva= l > Sjaak! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 19:20:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A5473BE85; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SEitaQ6LencrX2THv+hBp2NRRex3e/iBamTwR/+FOAo=; b=VnwMd8R5F8fobiEnSSSuPWu0I2AiX1bWxYaXfDIED+nsj1EHXYXoL24Q/WMYw4rpqe +3ujIqcNRejSh4HokaKUPpkHzhPuBSy0INmo6XJGVBQBM3gYSROAAt0bDKko66H/Ff0C KdKbaaAoVU4DTsj/86UiXPciGHkl0nuMI8yKc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=AvK0/3yn+Bprm8vKzFQ+2tCUaKjejqsyXPM0ke/RMwniMMvP7VcSL4pGFjgLQQZeBU XUxBTq4tS2+vkPBrJAqnb3OPr7o8fcklu/WrCZz6JzkWli2q8e/s1lRn5hv196vcBnQp YbNmfVXIpEzOUB7KWqXKinQUGIjhTaAQWDbkE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:20:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: New Rigs! videos with Marielle Jakobsons From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <29OP6D.A.Ag.25BKKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Marielle Jakobsons (of DarwinsBitch, Myrmyr and Triometrik) on violin, computer, pedals & synths. She's one of my favorite drone musicians. Demonstration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnH-inmNzfw Performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiZzxNyQzQc Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 23:02:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C2933BE79; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 23:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090604190214.3642386zw7bwa7wg@www.wightman.ca> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:02:14 -0400 From: phaslem@wightman.ca To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mastering plug ins References: <7334ca1b0906030508m3eebf3feo4ca8ae959240cb01@mail.gmail.com> <001401c9e526$cf270a50$74e63547@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) X-Originating-IP: 216.16.232.115 X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; FunWebProducts; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; InfoPath.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 23:02:15 +0000 (UTC) I had the good fortune to do a couple of recordings at good studio =20 outside of Ithaca NY. Peter Hopper was/is the owner and chief =20 engineer, producer and all round great guy. He taught me to take lots =20 of time setting up with various microphones, record a bit and listen. =20 Move the mics, move the instrument, try different mics until you hear =20 the sound you want. That way you let the mic, and room do the eq for =20 you and you have a clean good signal that you can play with. The initial process is slow but worth the effort, and once you have =20 that sound you can reproduce it consistantly and once you get to know =20 your microphones you can reasonably predict how a mic will colour the =20 sound of a given instrument. I don't have a lot of really expensive mics or instruments but I like =20 to think that I'm learning to make the most of the tools I have. Paul Haslem, Ontario, Canada www.dulcify.ca Quoting Raul Bonell : > agree. that's the point. feeding a better signal to your DAW. always > there's room for improvement, even at home. > > 2009/6/4, Jeff Duke : >> There was music before computers? :) >> Really I am thinking that I need to work on improving the audio I am feed= ing >> into my DAW. Unless I can find a turd polishing plugin :) >> If I have a boomy sound why not fix it before recording etc and so on. I = am >> still trying to grasp audio mastering but I get so confused...slowly I go= . From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 23:48:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D76D73BE78; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 23:48:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b0906031815s36f53f6cxc1da42defe64e153@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 08:48:12 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 23:48:19 +0000 (UTC) At 6:14 PM +0100 6/4/09, Simeon Harris wrote: >now that's sparked my interest....i'd like ot be able to send one pc >message from my footcontroller and have a midi clip send a bunch of >commands to the mixer to change the "send" values...and perhaps send >some pc messages to those plugins that can deal with them to change >patches > >unfortunately, i have absolutely no idea how to do it! > >just looked at the manual and figured out how to create a new midi >clip - looked at it's clip view and i see you can select "mixer" for >the destination of the midi. but what do you draw in the big panel >on the right? > >sorry mate, i've a livedunce! Nope, no problem, Sim. You just have to get a little time to work with it. First, it sounds like you're operating on an Audio Track. We need to work with a MIDI track, so go to the "Create" menu and choose "Insert MIDI Track". Before going any further, go to the I/O section of the new MIDI Track. There's a trick here we need to implement. You see, Ableton doesn't implement internal MIDI routing, but we can get around that by using a Loopback. On Mac, you'll use the internal IAC Bus. On PC, it's a little harder only because you'll need to install something like Hubi's Loopback Device. Since I remember your mentioning AU's, I'll assume that you're on a Mac, and continue through that. One the I/O portion of the channel strip, click the pulldown menu for "MIDI To". Switch this to "IAC Driver". That should also activate the pulldown directly below it, where you can choose the MIDI channel on which you want to transmit. For the sake of simplicity, let's select "Channel 1" for the moment. Make sure that the "Monitor" button is set to "Auto" too. Now double-click on an empty slot in order to create a new blank track. It should open right up for editing immediately upon creation. Down at the lower left corner, you'll see 3 tiny buttons: An "L", two eighth notes, and an "E". These control the "Launch", "Notes", and "Envelopes" panes, respectively. For Continuous Controller information, we should be looking at the "Envelopes" pane. Click the pulldown in the upper left of this pane, and make sure it's set to "MIDI Ctrl". Now click the pulldown directly under it. Here, you can select a MIDI CC with which you want to work. IIRC, something like Controller 15 or 16 is usually fairly safe, so pick one of those. Now, go over to the data window on the right. You should be in "Draw Mode", meaning that the little pencil on the transport control bar at the top of the page should be lit up. If it's not, either click that button, or CTRL-Click (PC: Right Click) on the data pane. If CTRL-Clicking, you'll see a bunch of quantize values (which are handy for later, after you've gotten the hang of this) and an option for "Draw Mode" at the bottom of the menu. Okay, start drawing in some controller data. We'll wait here until you're finished.... Got it? Good. You've now made your first MIDI clip. All that remains is to connect the controller you selected to the parameter that you want to control. Go up and click the "MIDI" button on the top bar next to the CPU Usage meter. The whole screen should go kinda blue. Now pick the parameter that you want to be controlled -- let's say, Send "A" on Track #1. Click that knob. Go to your MIDI controller and send a message on the same CC as the one you drew on your new MIDI clip. You should automatically get an entry into the MIDI Bindings menu (now on the left of the screen) which reflects your new assignment. Oh, but sending that message from a controller is inconvenient right now, you say? No problem, do this: First exit MIDI Bindings mode (click the "MIDI" button next to the CPU meter so that it's off). Now play your new MIDI clip. Re-enter MIDI Bindings mode while the clip is still playing. Repeat the above procedure. Live should hear the MIDI data coming out of the MIDI Clip, and you should have a new event placed on the screen, linked to Track #1's Send "A" knob. When you exit this mode again, you should now see the Send "A" knob moving back and forth in conjunction with the data you programmed into the Clip. If you want to stop the automation, just stop the clip. Okay, I'll stop there for the moment, and let you try that. Let me know how it goes, okay? --m. -- _____ "Image is blasphemy. Text is heresy. The spoken word is a lie." X <--- you are here. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 4 23:48:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75AA73BE75; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 23:48:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 08:48:45 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 23:48:51 +0000 (UTC) At 6:14 PM +0100 6/4/09, Simeon Harris wrote: >now that's sparked my interest....i'd like ot be able to send one pc >message from my footcontroller and have a midi clip send a bunch of >commands to the mixer to change the "send" values...and perhaps send >some pc messages to those plugins that can deal with them to change >patches > >unfortunately, i have absolutely no idea how to do it! > >just looked at the manual and figured out how to create a new midi >clip - looked at it's clip view and i see you can select "mixer" for >the destination of the midi. but what do you draw in the big panel >on the right? > >sorry mate, i've a livedunce! Nope, no problem, Sim. You just have to get a little time to work with it. First, it sounds like you're operating on an Audio Track. We need to work with a MIDI track, so go to the "Create" menu and choose "Insert MIDI Track". Before going any further, go to the I/O section of the new MIDI Track. There's a trick here we need to implement. You see, Ableton doesn't implement internal MIDI routing, but we can get around that by using a Loopback. On Mac, you'll use the internal IAC Bus. On PC, it's a little harder only because you'll need to install something like Hubi's Loopback Device. Since I remember your mentioning AU's, I'll assume that you're on a Mac, and continue through that. One the I/O portion of the channel strip, click the pulldown menu for "MIDI To". Switch this to "IAC Driver". That should also activate the pulldown directly below it, where you can choose the MIDI channel on which you want to transmit. For the sake of simplicity, let's select "Channel 1" for the moment. Make sure that the "Monitor" button is set to "Auto" too. Now double-click on an empty slot in order to create a new blank track. It should open right up for editing immediately upon creation. Down at the lower left corner, you'll see 3 tiny buttons: An "L", two eighth notes, and an "E". These control the "Launch", "Notes", and "Envelopes" panes, respectively. For Continuous Controller information, we should be looking at the "Envelopes" pane. Click the pulldown in the upper left of this pane, and make sure it's set to "MIDI Ctrl". Now click the pulldown directly under it. Here, you can select a MIDI CC with which you want to work. IIRC, something like Controller 15 or 16 is usually fairly safe, so pick one of those. Now, go over to the data window on the right. You should be in "Draw Mode", meaning that the little pencil on the transport control bar at the top of the page should be lit up. If it's not, either click that button, or CTRL-Click (PC: Right Click) on the data pane. If CTRL-Clicking, you'll see a bunch of quantize values (which are handy for later, after you've gotten the hang of this) and an option for "Draw Mode" at the bottom of the menu. Okay, start drawing in some controller data. We'll wait here until you're finished.... Got it? Good. You've now made your first MIDI clip. All that remains is to connect the controller you selected to the parameter that you want to control. Go up and click the "MIDI" button on the top bar next to the CPU Usage meter. The whole screen should go kinda blue. Now pick the parameter that you want to be controlled -- let's say, Send "A" on Track #1. Click that knob. Go to your MIDI controller and send a message on the same CC as the one you drew on your new MIDI clip. You should automatically get an entry into the MIDI Bindings menu (now on the left of the screen) which reflects your new assignment. Oh, but sending that message from a controller is inconvenient right now, you say? No problem, do this: First exit MIDI Bindings mode (click the "MIDI" button next to the CPU meter so that it's off). Now play your new MIDI clip. Re-enter MIDI Bindings mode while the clip is still playing. Repeat the above procedure. Live should hear the MIDI data coming out of the MIDI Clip, and you should have a new event placed on the screen, linked to Track #1's Send "A" knob. When you exit this mode again, you should now see the Send "A" knob moving back and forth in conjunction with the data you programmed into the Clip. If you want to stop the automation, just stop the clip. Okay, I'll stop there for the moment, and let you try that. Let me know how it goes, okay? --m. -- _____ "Image is blasphemy. Text is heresy. The spoken word is a lie." X <--- you are here. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 00:00:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF7963BE7F; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 00:00:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VSRw4muNDG9iJOzaL+eAQDCxFGhYui89VSyPnFfolnk=; b=rsihkqlowGZQwCP5o0ttgZXcZrK6I5gFvVZeh13KKMG+JpBgVUoN06G2oxMedJIUFw wzy+Iz6WOw5gi5K7jwAv9539Z0NkV+Tn1umsMNI2Ti4bwA4+Ip/rdu1gR/aq+3QDQdqm rOnaF8Z11QHf3FfXuCea1Z5+T43eYDXvG4xYw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HE8poCEl1C8ZP6U5CKjw7XcM+7b7Rr8PuZPqie9oLoNFQ69PUsNqqv9JRbKniZ7rZ+ sauQ/aCT4VLgDn/tPtjJyD/ygGX6VLZStZEj0kT0xJMgbdsHuWTUiW59b1H9H34Lrjop zAlpBnVGlJUW3Kk76lQDwqU4XAP2pEeyk1Tcw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b0906031815s36f53f6cxc1da42defe64e153@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:59:59 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 00:00:00 +0000 (UTC) It doesn't? I route MIDI between plug ins all the time. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Mech wrote: > Before going any further, go to the I/O section of the new MIDI Track. > =A0There's a trick here we need to implement. =A0You see, Ableton doesn't > implement internal MIDI routing, but we can get around that by using a > Loopback. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 04:10:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09D5C3BE73; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 04:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.209.8.212] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: , , Subject: FreeWave: It's all about guitarists Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 22:10:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0092_01C9E561.47A3DF00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2009 04:10:35.0826 (UTC) FILETIME=[93BB7920:01C9E593] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 04:10:36 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C9E561.47A3DF00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check out the playlist for the new RadioBoise.org program "FreeWave". http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ Saturday, June 6, 1-3pm MST, and it's all about guitarists. Check out = the playlist below and join us on RadioBoise.org to listen. Kris Play List Artist(s): Surrender to the Air Song: And Furthermore Album: Surrender to the air More info Artist(s): Nels Cline And Gregg Bendian Song: Venus Album: Interstellar Space Revisited (The Music of John Coltrane) More info=20 Artist(s): Terje Rypdal Song: Circles Album: Descendre More info=20 Artist(s): John Abercombie Song: Shrubberies Album: In the Moment More info=20 Artist(s): Joe Morris Quartet Song: Coil Album: At the Old Office More info=20 Artist(s): Jim McAuley Song: The Eyelids of Bhudda Album: 2008 Boise Experimental Music Festival More info=20 Artist(s): Pat Metheny and Ornette Coleman Song: Endangered Species Album: Song X=20 More info=20 Artist(s): John McLaughlin Song: The Promise Album: Jazz Jungle=20 More info=20 Kris Hartung info@krispenhartung.com http://www.krispenhartung.com/personal/ 208-724-5603 ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C9E561.47A3DF00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Check out the playlist for the new = RadioBoise.org=20 program "FreeWave".

http://radio-boise-fre= ewave.blogspot.com/

Saturday, June 6, 1-3pm MST, and it's = all about=20 guitarists. Check out the playlist below and join us on RadioBoise.org = to=20 listen.

Kris

Play List

Artist(s): Surrender to = the=20 Air
Song: And Furthermore
Album: Surrender to the air
More=20 info

Artist(s): Nels Cline And Gregg Bendian
Song:=20 Venus
Album: Interstellar Space Revisited (The Music of John = Coltrane)
More info

Artist(s): Terje = Rypdal
Song:=20 Circles
Album: Descendre
More info

Artist(s): John = Abercombie
Song:=20 Shrubberies
Album: In the Moment
More info

Artist(s): Joe Morris=20 Quartet
Song: Coil
Album: At the Old Office
More info

Artist(s): Jim = McAuley
Song: The=20 Eyelids of Bhudda
Album: 2008 Boise Experimental Music Festival
More=20 info

Artist(s): Pat Metheny and Ornette = Coleman
Song:=20 Endangered Species
Album: Song X
More info

Artist(s): John = McLaughlin
Song:=20 The Promise
Album: Jazz Jungle
More info

Kris Hartung
info@krispenhartung.com
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------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C9E561.47A3DF00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 04:24:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C04373BE73; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 04:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b0906031815s36f53f6cxc1da42defe64e153@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 13:24:23 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <-Pw-AB.A.3WD.83JKKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 04:24:28 +0000 (UTC) At 4:59 PM -0700 6/4/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Mech wrote: > >> Before going any further, go to the I/O section of the new MIDI Track. >> There's a trick here we need to implement. You see, Ableton doesn't >> implement internal MIDI routing, but we can get around that by using a > > Loopback. > >It doesn't? I route MIDI between plug ins all the time. Er, to Ableton's internal functions...? Sorry. You're right. If you're sending data directly to an AU/VST which responds to MIDI, then you don't have to go through this step. More often, I'm trying to control things within Ableton itself (faders, send/return levels, etc.) and you do this loopback trick to route MIDI control directly to Live's parameters. Unless you've come across another way around this I haven't figured out yet? Thanks for the amendment. --m. -- _____ "take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than one step..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 04:44:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16AA53BE79; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 04:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=1upMF7QPKspA7Q3J/iXCVL59lLSfBExDyDOq36G52IA=; b=wlNdU5vFFuq1bfsvjH2jGGNNRNDJIERt1dRwzIVzntQSpWkgMyCY+mdsCs6r5ym/3s QHvsfFx7rULEtMvAihsC8DcIt8cEGiqSOfBmMGE0mslHWfrzCL+9Zm6LawdZLpgbmlMw uCJa0jonz/bvYGg6VfLuVTVveXrji7FIp/2us= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZNNYHJvGW7nmElb6r6Itby7fpcD9SGpb90Q0vYhQsPqjAsaCZgBXHgdyzOcSGp74/Y 7vNa5rrG/w9M6A6SeGgNGtisR3bDo8wnFVZlUyzFgxAwFu8OSuIwwACtr6pr+2FDuM88 qVucayDy40NcqOyrhJa9stEedcoSF0m6Sdosk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 22:44:49 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: OT: MIDI to DMX? From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers_Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68b6b2f702018046b928d55 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 04:44:49 +0000 (UTC) --0016e68b6b2f702018046b928d55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm curious if anybody uses a sequencer to control lights during a performance? If so, can you recommend a MIDI to DMX interface (or any other method)? Adam http://www.cinetix.de/interface/english/midmxbox.htm http://www.lanbox.com/products/LCXDataSheet.html http://www.thomann.de/gb/stairville_djx_16_dmx_controller.htm this one is also a controller - looks like the best one http://www.premier-solutions.biz/NJD-Products/MDC-128.htm --0016e68b6b2f702018046b928d55 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm curious if anybody uses a sequencer to control lights during a perf= ormance?=A0 If so, can you recommend a MIDI to DMX interface (or any other = method)? Adam

http://www.cinetix.de/interface/english/midmxbox.htm

http:/= /www.lanbox.com/products/LCXDataSheet.html

http://www.thomann.de/= gb/stairville_djx_16_dmx_controller.htm
this one is also a controller - looks like the best one

http://www.premie= r-solutions.biz/NJD-Products/MDC-128.htm

--0016e68b6b2f702018046b928d55-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 04:55:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27BE93BE73; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 04:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FZdFOXv7ey1jOIntRFPdJN6MCdlkAQ7kYXuXYp78yH8=; b=a+d6ZswhZGfebXBiCL9SqJyNLKB2c2ffhiVuXhWJTdcgD8yCoxnrUS2b/C5S7M66cr ewCt+Q6Hy01PvBYKjxzf9aI2YJq1aHTW94dJjY0Sq6IrXkS7KWj/HpA+rNQxLEhK12SE DBfB/AmhKvdTyWvMypTC7NQLehuo5tgtlJoL8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NeN6Csa4IoqaJod6jNSeXHHvtOE5K6kngLGBISXvFe91gLTTe01hT8jqWyByjuJ0n6 d2B7YtVKOilW2aALfoDw8361Xjiaju7S7WEz6sbBpKTM/XarJDT4OzUwvst1sXDuEnNU /IAGOtT9J9L6WyT1zQvgaHy1TNnFZ1N9Q1Ffk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b0906031815s36f53f6cxc1da42defe64e153@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 21:55:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7MU9YC.A.oQE.vUKKKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 04:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Ah, I don't know about that but I thought live was good about midi learn. I've seen people do pretty amazing things with Live and a midi keyboard... I'm using a Novation Remote SL 25 so all that's taken care of. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Mech wrote: > At 4:59 PM -0700 6/4/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Mech wrote: >> >>> =A0Before going any further, go to the I/O section of the new MIDI Trac= k. >>> =A0There's a trick here we need to implement. =A0You see, Ableton doesn= 't >>> =A0implement internal MIDI routing, but we can get around that by using= a >> >> =A0> Loopback. >> >> It doesn't? =A0I route MIDI between plug ins all the time. > > Er, to Ableton's internal functions...? > > Sorry. =A0You're right. =A0If you're sending data directly to an AU/VST w= hich > responds to MIDI, then you don't have to go through this step. > > More often, I'm trying to control things within Ableton itself (faders, > send/return levels, etc.) and you do this loopback trick to route MIDI > control directly to Live's parameters. > > Unless you've come across another way around this I haven't figured out y= et? > > Thanks for the amendment. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--m. > -- > _____ > "take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than one > step..." > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 05:17:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C12563BE80; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 05:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3To3aGV/MD2dBtCH3ck4tmBATxHq1dPTVtegzi4ah7U=; b=BUPcVdwCgnb44M/gLHK4wx6cs7TcprhF5tETWdQ9PqgNTlQFADcXEYCbYIBr0B0kDs bKZTY+Z0/YuRDqF6lMypN0ZIZhYWXwhAnqddTaiEQ3O0Ey5hPPO4PXmN7bZCgmEapXdU FMUcj1OPjuTpw6ITqYPKmLe0CsvHLoSvGa9nA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=TepK0CC82R1UgktgPABQJZ/lu37sECVMqYWpvDlyi0QMy/muDTrivxRUGeoHFd7Ydz fBPT/bXYjBQbmGuPvn7Tj+lZaabcGIK918bMfSyA8sXhJopk77Xm9c3jexBoHDB2yqRJ rLXvg1VVKJiIh44IKUC2paZ82k+gp/tArCRms= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A2811A9.6090009@tiscali.co.uk> References: <66f9cc1e0905311315r1c3616f9jb522519d67360d65@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905311331n1ea11596uf1433adec0b52118@mail.gmail.com> <4A23A69D.7020604@tiscali.co.uk> <4A2811A9.6090009@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 23:17:16 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP and Logic Glitches From: "^|>^m" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e645b8067cd366046b930150 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 05:17:16 +0000 (UTC) --0016e645b8067cd366046b930150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not as technically savvy as previous opines, but I had an EDP glitch caused by a program change on a completely separate ext midi channel before. That was weird and unexplainable, but I delete the p change (wasn't using it) and the problem went away (for that song). I also noticed in one song if my general reset messages were not on the 1 beat then sometimes my sync would be off (rounded to the next downbeat after 1 i.e. 2). Does that seem possible? I am using 8th note so I put all my record on off messages right before the downbeat. I've noticed that on a few occasions a record will be missed. Sometimes I would move the note over a few frames and it would hit every time - again, I am quantized to 8th note (pre delay method), so that wont work for you. sometimes I feel like just doing something like deleting the region in question, or even note in question and recreating it might help. Or adding an extra bar at the beginning of the song. Doesn't make sense, but neither do I most of the time and I seem to be doing OK in life. Adam --0016e645b8067cd366046b930150 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm not as technically savvy as previous opines, but I had an EDP glitc= h caused by a program change on a completely separate ext midi channel befo= re. That was weird and unexplainable, but I delete the p change (wasn't= using it) and the problem went away (for that song).

I also noticed in one song if my general reset messages were not on the= 1 beat then sometimes my sync would be off (rounded to the next downbeat a= fter 1 i.e. 2).=A0 Does that seem possible?

I am using 8th note so = I put all my record on off messages right before the downbeat.=A0 I've = noticed that on a few occasions a record will be missed.

Sometimes I would move the note over a few frames and it would hit ever= y time - again, I am quantized to 8th note (pre delay method), so that wont= work for you.=A0 sometimes I feel like just doing something like deleting = the region in question, or even note in question and recreating it might he= lp.=A0 Or adding an extra bar at the beginning of the song.=A0 Doesn't = make sense, but neither do I most of the time and I seem to be doing OK in = life. Adam
--0016e645b8067cd366046b930150-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 05:32:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D7D03BE7C; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 05:32:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1806 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 05 Jun 2009 05:32:55 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.4 X-EN-IMPSID: 052o1c00305G96J0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:02:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: OT: MIDI to DMX? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_18893265==.ALT" X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20090605053255.19BC63BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 05:32:55 +0000 (UTC) --=====================_18893265==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed You might try pinging these guys to see if they are going to make their software available - or if it even uses MIDI: http://www.lightupxmas.com/howwedidit.html At 2009.06.04 09:44 PM, ^|>^m wrote: >I'm curious if anybody uses a sequencer to control lights during a >performance? If so, can you recommend a MIDI to DMX interface (or >any other method)? Adam > >http://www.cinetix.de/interface/english/midmxbox.htm > >http://www.lanbox.com/products/LCXDataSheet.html > >http://www.thomann.de/gb/stairville_djx_16_dmx_controller.htm >this one is also a controller - looks like the best one > >http://www.premier-solutions.biz/NJD-Products/MDC-128.htm > --=====================_18893265==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" You might try pinging these guys to see if they are going to make their software available - or if it even uses MIDI:
http://www.lightupxmas.com/howwedidit.html

At 2009.06.04 09:44 PM, ^|>^m wrote:

I'm curious if anybody uses a sequencer to control lights during a performance? If so, can you recommend a MIDI to DMX interface (or any other method)? Adam

http://www.cinetix.de/interface/english/midmxbox.htm

http://www.lanbox.com/products/LCXDataSheet.html

http://www.thomann.de/gb/stairville_djx_16_dmx_controller.htm
this one is also a controller - looks like the best one

http://www.premier-solutions.biz/NJD-Products/MDC-128.htm

--=====================_18893265==.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 08:29:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7979C3BE7C; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 08:29:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=I0fcwBFT1sXqi/qj5/FBn0y+UmXdG3Ag0FZHGyZHWNk=; b=eO3nIbOxOTHG00mufeKAyRN+Azo1QJ/Zqg/iid+F4d0wu74IEMoGte22PA2V6D5a2u Hy99K00CPkSj9ACb+9jmwD68STex56s2KJkmWNhBum0dH6ka+sHJxiSrz3l6RCsBnWN6 Cm9yXi100rv3URG6goWl56ydNTbFSaou5iMLM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=hL4LyC+g38KEPOXcwTQ4LBGv7LpoIxj/pA6cvYC5MSJJ1w254OppZBf72A4B2WMIa7 jGJY/50+CfhCndyXvYpKbajraqVoYhSBgkrAg9mEaP69g+k8JqNQxl48TWENpVJLkd2z 7N6JuCFeThmcx5ZyK2/FWTL1mE14IDPYqNU3Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 10:21:56 +0200 Message-ID: <146cdfa70906050121n20b2f277he31e35e8a95da537@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest - video From: Marco Ronci To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f7cc72ede952046b959557 Resent-Message-ID: <-u_SXC.A.7LD.ndNKKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 08:29:27 +0000 (UTC) --001485f7cc72ede952046b959557 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 2009/6/4 Sjaak <> > We'll be leaving to Rome tomorrow night, we'll keep you posted. > --- > Sjaak > > Sjaak, (+ all the performers) see you saturday at the club. Ciao Marco --001485f7cc72ede952046b959557 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

2009/6/4 Sjaak <>

We'll be leaving to Rome tomorrow night, we'll keep you posted.

---
Sjaak

Sjaak, (+ all the performers)
see you saturday at the club.

Ciao
Marco
--001485f7cc72ede952046b959557-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 08:57:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F7703BE75; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 08:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Nwva0/YMEwk8sJaT7mfXEqeJ31s0JPvv/ZxTpKVofqI=; b=hNZNMH6h04ADFg1QCph2vYNh9cPINnX9+/FGRcObeO4fEc4NU6iEQfKAoLbd1c9Bvo AulIzBUSJkbJ6ZGozW2MINOq36+CpDto9W+YOwNa9qTLnt5ICIHLZhjSi1tohCCp613u bo05fYARIOpsxvzDJq9UzgOWNjD8zQqIFYEvg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=mG/kgW1A9KW0cva3CLXW0e2XPW618iUCX+ONsb5KEmg412tF960yP/kvylDokIm7TU Y2W4RJ2EbrwI+VV6w2Zb3cBLUl1pBcjrl1m4bAKQ13THfKEaKbY6uhQl3ekieykyRes+ UxFZGPiC5hF66Oy6VJb3lkO69QLZPZ3KrsZkw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b0906031815s36f53f6cxc1da42defe64e153@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:57:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f5cdc2167aaa046b9616b2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 08:57:48 +0000 (UTC) --001485f5cdc2167aaa046b9616b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit brilliant...thanks mate...i would have never figured that out by myself! i'll give it a go later on today and let you know how i get on so is it possible to play a midi clip by sending it a pc message? i see you can either loop the clip or have a one shot....one step at a time, i guess! sim On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Mech wrote: > > Nope, no problem, Sim. You just have to get a little time to work with it. > > First, it sounds like you're operating on an Audio Track. We need to work > with a MIDI track, so go to the "Create" menu and choose "Insert MIDI > Track". > etc... --001485f5cdc2167aaa046b9616b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable brilliant...thanks mate...i would have never figured that out by myself!
i'll give it a go later on today and let you know how i get on
=
so is it possible to play a midi clip by sending it a pc message? i see= you can either loop the clip or have a one shot....one step at a time, i g= uess!

sim

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:48 AM, = Mech <mech3@m3ch.net= > wrote:

Nope, no problem, Sim. =A0You just have to get a little time to work with i= t.

First, it sounds like you're operating on an Audio Track. =A0We need to= work with a MIDI track, so go to the "Create" menu and choose &q= uot;Insert MIDI Track".

etc...

--001485f5cdc2167aaa046b9616b2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 09:01:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECEE03BE79; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:01:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 210187666/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.229.122/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.229.122 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvQBAG97KEpPTuV6/2dsb2JhbAAIzxiECwWIXw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,310,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="210187666" Message-ID: <4A28E1FE.3090103@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:14:38 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? References: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08230EE6D4BF@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> In-Reply-To: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08230EE6D4BF@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <5NHOeD.A.j8D.A8NKKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:01:52 +0000 (UTC) Dean, Hal wrote: > Very interesting discussion. The MIDI message triggering a batch of > other MIDI messages thing is something I’ve been doing in Bidule, where > it is very easy to do. How? (please) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 09:12:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A1343BE79; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:12:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 206339565/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.229.122/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.229.122 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvQBAD9+KEpPTuV6/2dsb2JhbAAIzxyECwWIXw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,310,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="206339565" Message-ID: <4A28E482.9000205@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:25:22 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP and Logic Glitches References: <66f9cc1e0905311315r1c3616f9jb522519d67360d65@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0905311331n1ea11596uf1433adec0b52118@mail.gmail.com> <4A23A69D.7020604@tiscali.co.uk> <4A2811A9.6090009@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:12:38 +0000 (UTC) ^|>^m wrote: > I'm not as technically savvy as previous opines, but I had an EDP glitch > caused by a program change on a completely separate ext midi channel > before. That was weird and unexplainable, but I delete the p change > (wasn't using it) and the problem went away (for that song). > > I also noticed in one song if my general reset messages were not on the > 1 beat then sometimes my sync would be off (rounded to the next downbeat > after 1 i.e. 2). Does that seem possible? > yes, because the EDP gets the message fractionally after the beat and quantises to the next one. Interestingly, when you end a multiply the edp is able to compensate for a slightly late press, but most features don't have that. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 09:26:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E9173BE75; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1244193959; bh=ekii4Qjz+pwgphHr2gYGkssEfshkEVZnBC/euQ9m0Js=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=v38JpjvBM4OrmKKGoofr7vKbvWHtji2Fsz6cv7RTvunkNn5nG4/eV3u99MPn42er3 621eIjjQO37zwXE4fV9jxeZs0Jb/bkSCwobBRdKNR2tV1ZtyfRpVHaJctiHwwndSGr D7WzwFU20u0ChryzK/ibDVLEyKnG6XqjNiCBGDZw= Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 11:25:58 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Firenze live recording MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 151.16.209.165 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:26:00 +0000 (UTC) > Sjaak, (+ all the performers) > see you saturday at the club. > > Ciao > Marco Cu saturday :) PS I've uploaded my Firenze performance to my iTunes podcast. You can als= o download it http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/Firenze_20090603.mp3 --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! Scarlet NO LIMIT nu slechts 19,95 EUR Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 09:36:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1230A3BE78; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:36:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "eterogeneo" To: References: <146cdfa70906050121n20b2f277he31e35e8a95da537@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest - video Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 11:36:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006F_01C9E5D1.E3210F50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: smtp5.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: <3SH9Q.A.6xE.pcOKKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:36:42 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C9E5D1.E3210F50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable - 1 day left to the Internationale Live Looping Festival "in Rome". I'm so proud to host this event and it's getting more and more exciting = after Antwerpen and Florence where we had a lot of good music and fun. The entire festival will be audio and video recorded (as it was in = Florence) by a good friend of mine who also will do interviews to the = artists to make later a Live Looping documentary. I'll upload pictures, music and video (form Antewerpen and Florence = also) after the "in Rome" Live Looping Festival If you nearby the venue (DimmiDiS=EC - via dei Volsci 126/B - Rome) you = are welcome ! Cheers Fabio=20 www.livelooping.it www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/europeanliveloopingfestival www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C9E5D1.E3210F50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

- 1 day left to the = Internationale=20 Live Looping Festival "in Rome".

I'm so proud to host = this event and=20 it's getting more and more exciting after Antwerpen and Florence where = we had a=20 lot of good music and fun.

The entire festival = will be audio=20 and video recorded (as it was in Florence) by a good friend of mine who = also=20 will do interviews to the artists to make later a Live Looping=20 documentary.

I'll upload pictures, = music and=20 video (form Antewerpen and Florence also) after the "in Rome" Live = Looping=20 Festival

If you nearby the venue = (DimmiDiS=EC=20 - via dei Volsci 126/B - Rome) you are welcome !

Cheers

Fabio
www.livelooping.it

www.eterogeneo.com

www.myspace.c= om/europeanliveloopingfestival
www.myspace.com/eterogeneo=

------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C9E5D1.E3210F50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 13:16:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 466503BE78; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 13:16:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_436eded1-39b2-464d-a40d-954ce8d7caaf_" X-Originating-IP: [83.145.33.34] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: Summer day, long one take improvisation in three phases, morning, working and evening. (adding KP3 to the Looping rig) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 13:16:13 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2009 13:16:13.0864 (UTC) FILETIME=[CD1FA280:01C9E5DF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 13:16:14 +0000 (UTC) --_436eded1-39b2-464d-a40d-954ce8d7caaf_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's one LONG improvisation (live in the basement music room). The signal c= hain is Soloway Cygnus into Custom By Cougar ODS style amp (OD and boost on= all the time. Amount of OD is controlled from the guitar..)=2C amp loop wi= th "catulator"=2C Symetrix 606 delay and the EDP (echoplex digital pro) loo= per=2C G12-65 speaker=2C Sennheiser 609=2C mixer (CHEAP)=2C Kaosspad KP3=2C= back to mixer to my KORG Pxr4 .... So all sounds are made "live" one take no everdubs=2C just LOOPING. Most lo= oping done with EDP but some live sampling looping on the KP3. KP3 is mostl= y used to make.. NOISE =2C some "drum" like sounds and further alter the st= ate of you're MIND :-) It's best to go the my sundclick page and listen to all three parts... "Sum= mer day" - phase 1=2C 2 and 3 www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl These are also free do download... Close you're eyes and LISTEN.. it's a fr= ee trip. Phase 1 is sort of ambient to noise... Phase 2 more rhythm oriented and phase 3 a bit more relaxed=2C perhaps ambi= ent =20 Have a WONDERFUL weekend.. --_436eded1-39b2-464d-a40d-954ce8d7caaf_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's one LONG improvisation (live in the basement music room). The signal c= hain is Soloway Cygnus into Custom By Cougar ODS style amp (OD and boost on= all the time. Amount of OD is controlled from the guitar..)=2C amp loop wi= th "catulator"=2C Symetrix 606 delay and the EDP (echoplex digital pro) loo= per=2C G12-65 speaker=2C Sennheiser 609=2C mixer (CHEAP)=2C Kaosspad KP3=2C= back to mixer to my KORG Pxr4 ....
So all sounds are made "live" one take no everdubs=2C just LOOPING. Most lo= oping done with EDP but some live sampling looping on the KP3. KP3 is mostl= y used to make.. NOISE =2C some "drum" like sounds and further alter the st= ate of you're MIND :-)
It's best to go the my sundclick page and listen to all three parts... "Sum= mer day" - phase 1=2C 2 and 3
www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl
These are also free do download... Close you're eyes and LISTEN.. it's a fr= ee trip.
Phase 1 is sort of ambient to noise...
Phase 2 more rhythm oriented and phase 3 a bit more relaxed=2C perhaps ambi= ent
=3B
Have a WONDERFUL weekend..
= --_436eded1-39b2-464d-a40d-954ce8d7caaf_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 14:19:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDAED3BE79; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:19:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <4dc311679226a6134ba0046d45f9eef4@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: FreeWave: It's all about guitarists Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 07:19:04 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:19:10 +0000 (UTC) Kris, Sounds like a great show. Heheh, with the exception of Joe Morris, it sounds like you record=20 collection must be much like mine. I have every single tune (and album) mentioned and was there to see Jim=20= Mcauley in the flesh as well. What a great lineup. Cheers, Ted On Jun 4, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Check out the playlist for the new RadioBoise.org program "FreeWave". > =A0 > http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ > =A0 > Saturday, June 6, 1-3pm MST, and it's all about guitarists. Check out=20= > the playlist below and join us on RadioBoise.org to listen. > =A0 > Kris > =A0 > Play List > > Artist(s): Surrender to the Air > Song: And Furthermore > Album: Surrender to the air > More info > > Artist(s): Nels Cline And Gregg Bendian > Song: Venus > Album: Interstellar Space Revisited (The Music of John Coltrane) > More info > > Artist(s): Terje Rypdal > Song: Circles > Album: Descendre > More info > > Artist(s): John Abercombie > Song: Shrubberies > Album: In the Moment > More info > > Artist(s): Joe Morris Quartet > Song: Coil > Album: At the Old Office > More info > > Artist(s): Jim McAuley > Song: The Eyelids of Bhudda > Album: 2008 Boise Experimental Music Festival > More info > > Artist(s): Pat Metheny and Ornette Coleman > Song: Endangered Species > Album: Song X > More info > > Artist(s): John McLaughlin > Song: The Promise > Album: Jazz Jungle > More info > =A0 > Kris Hartung > info@krispenhartung.com > http://www.krispenhartung.com/personal/ > 208-724-5603= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 14:24:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 723B23BE7E; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.209.10.39] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <4dc311679226a6134ba0046d45f9eef4@charter.net> Subject: Re: FreeWave: It's all about guitarists Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 08:24:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2009 14:24:51.0998 (UTC) FILETIME=[63B903E0:01C9E5E9] Resent-Message-ID: <91k7-.A.8-F.0qSKKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:24:52 +0000 (UTC) Cool. I always thought it was interesting that our collections were so similar. Kris ----- Original Message ----- Kris, Sounds like a great show. Heheh, with the exception of Joe Morris, it sounds like you record collection must be much like mine. I have every single tune (and album) mentioned and was there to see Jim Mcauley in the flesh as well. What a great lineup. Cheers, Ted On Jun 4, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Check out the playlist for the new RadioBoise.org program "FreeWave". > > http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ > > Saturday, June 6, 1-3pm MST, and it's all about guitarists. Check out the > playlist below and join us on RadioBoise.org to listen. > > Kris > > Play List > > Artist(s): Surrender to the Air > Song: And Furthermore > Album: Surrender to the air > More info > > Artist(s): Nels Cline And Gregg Bendian > Song: Venus > Album: Interstellar Space Revisited (The Music of John Coltrane) > More info > > Artist(s): Terje Rypdal > Song: Circles > Album: Descendre > More info > > Artist(s): John Abercombie > Song: Shrubberies > Album: In the Moment > More info > > Artist(s): Joe Morris Quartet > Song: Coil > Album: At the Old Office > More info > > Artist(s): Jim McAuley > Song: The Eyelids of Bhudda > Album: 2008 Boise Experimental Music Festival > More info > > Artist(s): Pat Metheny and Ornette Coleman > Song: Endangered Species > Album: Song X > More info > > Artist(s): John McLaughlin > Song: The Promise > Album: Jazz Jungle > More info > > Kris Hartung > info@krispenhartung.com > http://www.krispenhartung.com/personal/ > 208-724-5603 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 14:40:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 401B03BE7E; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Q+e06ey0Ou7CG8g/PNM+ThUo/PvEgDG5RxNzUqK5QRA=; b=n1VRsHr2k5apQw8Ml5O/8Rmf+ppY3xiyby3GrjYZyf61pGATiIhV6fwnzGFNhPJU97 kXC0AByOt20KjRCykm+e4ELuE7LBLNDmkiDpyTRfj8iuoUKdZkfr4Oi0StAjNZt/2Aq1 qI1UZg1e5zRxY7czMCdisFNyP2T8GMbOY24nk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=KEFzoW0x8rGud0C4vOoKi+u9phYAWVTEYyqehXmQzUti8KqVuDucLSQ2DSpSh4h48U Gi3T0K1xxLice35RZzEzlnIhpO7R7Uu20LHCLVTKcYCf7viubgPAfMnN0IhQgusiK4fe QlIJCLrEY34d0xRgQCGCqRTf6dgoSu8GA5Nvg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4A28E1FE.3090103@tiscali.co.uk> References: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08230EE6D4BF@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> <4A28E1FE.3090103@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 15:40:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b9d12f65845046b9adf7f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:40:36 +0000 (UTC) --0016363b9d12f65845046b9adf7f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes, id be interested in this as well - which bidule is it? On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:14 AM, andy butler wrote= : > Dean, Hal wrote: > >> Very interesting discussion. The MIDI message triggering a batch of othe= r >> MIDI messages thing is something I=92ve been doing in Bidule, where it i= s very >> easy to do. >> > > How? > > (please) > > andy > > --0016363b9d12f65845046b9adf7f Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes, id be interested in this as well - which bidule is it?

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:14 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.= uk> wrote:

Dean, Hal wrote:

Very interesting discussion. The MIDI message triggering a batch of other M= IDI messages thing is something I=92ve been doing in Bidule, where it is ve= ry easy to do.

How?

(please)

andy

--0016363b9d12f65845046b9adf7f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 14:48:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 148723BE81; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b0906031815s36f53f6cxc1da42defe64e153@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 23:48:09 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:48:14 +0000 (UTC) At 9:55 PM -0700 6/4/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >Ah, I don't know about that but I thought live was good about midi >learn. I've seen people do pretty amazing things with Live and a midi >keyboard... I'm using a Novation Remote SL 25 so all that's taken care >of. As you said, Live is brilliant about MIDI learn. Although when it came out, IMNSHO, it had two priorities: route devices like the Remote SL25 into VST's hosted by Live, and route MIDI clips into third-party devices (either VST/AU or external hardware. I don't think it occurred to Ableton that MIDI could/should be sent from Live back into itself in order to control and automate its own functions. But that's a really, really, cool and useful tool that you can use clips for, if you just loop the input back again. --m. -- _____ "when you think your dreams are shattered, it's time to dream new dreams" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 14:49:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D06F83BE77; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:49:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b0906031815s36f53f6cxc1da42defe64e153@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 23:49:38 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:49:42 +0000 (UTC) At 9:57 AM +0100 6/5/09, Simeon Harris wrote: > >so is it possible to play a midi clip by sending it a pc message? Eyup! :) >i see you can either loop the clip or have a one shot....one step at >a time, i guess! Yeah, I was saving all that for the last part of the configuration. First, get the MIDI clip working the way you want it to work. Next step is easy. Just assign a MIDI message (e.g. program change perhaps?) to fire the clip, the same way as you'd fire an Audio clip from such a message. Select the MIDI Bindings button again. This time, click on the MIDI clip you wish to fire. Now send the program change you want to use to trigger that clip. A new binding should now appear on the left side screen, reflecting the connection between your PC and firing the MIDI clip. So when you now exit the MIDI Bindings mode, you should be able to fire the clip merely by sending that specific PC message on its specific MIDI channel. Some other thoughts, caveats: Don't forget that the clips (usually) fire according to the quantize value. That means that if the quantize is set for one bar, the clip will wait until the bar boundary to fire. This may be useful (stack up a bunch of individual clips that wait and then all fire off at the start of a bar, for instance) or not ("why doesn't this @#$! button work right when I press it"). If you want to turn this behavior off, you could set the quantize value to "None". This might cause problems with other clips, since that value is global, but you should be able to change the quantize value of an individual clip within its edit pane. If you're working in Session view, you can only have one clip playing in each vertical column at a time. However, you can have multiple clips playing in a left-right row. As a matter of fact, if you click one of the clip slots under the Master track, it will fire every clip in that row at the next quantize boundary. You should also be able to bind those Master slots to a MIDI command, so you could conceivably use a single PC command to initiate a half-dozen MIDI clips simultaneously. If you wished, you could change the clips you're using on the fly by merely moving them in and out of different rows (while binding your Program Change to the row clip, rather than individual MIDI clips). This is especially nice while composing, since you can try different combinations of MIDI clips without having to redo their MIDI bindings, or mess around with reconfiguring your foot controller. Just swap different clips in or out of a row and fire it. Okay, there's a little more food for thought. Hope that helps a bit! --m. -- _____ "take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than one step..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 15:01:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 488703BE79; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 15:01:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ov5/45pDFTzIyJUk9Lnb0GY4GKjBJlqH67ikARM734c=; b=RkBkAi6RbqjkiJEwC8Qpd5CsnRXd5pMwYxVsN7KaYRaYB1trWVAI5SFIhsw8sk1KWg dt7HdR5+sdAA7Wdd9Ylq4Pp7EcWzXh7vxeeFEnGkyPnNkIG/RfFualHGoCGtofpoQ6it nI1plZ6MMhB8wHDxNVB7HJYdpq/g2PpEhuClI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vqdkupxqYib71UqA2w7+nGwPZmZNiel+jV0tDhXmtVUvXV9Gn5E3OAT439MrOw9ynj RaPGsBZcGABIYHS3ebRlw8JRqyBWucjhR1RhqJOkPjHev476xT+8bcWVW0Bku14ZozVu 8MnobfvCBpxB7iKB7tR/kcsBqBNZJ1L9jmX2c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <101191640906030755s6aca9e5cge1a2aad29edc66a3@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b0906031815s36f53f6cxc1da42defe64e153@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 11:01:26 -0400 Message-ID: <2871c3a90906050801m585b9670j5ab703393d4c2f71@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Any experienced Ableton users able to give me a hand? From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 15:01:27 +0000 (UTC) man, what a great thread, this is giving me so many ideas... thanks everyone. Sylvain On 6/5/09, Mech wrote: > At 9:57 AM +0100 6/5/09, Simeon Harris wrote: > > > > so is it possible to play a midi clip by sending it a pc message? > > > > Eyup! :) > > > i see you can either loop the clip or have a one shot....one step at a > time, i guess! > > > > Yeah, I was saving all that for the last part of the configuration. > > First, get the MIDI clip working the way you want it to work. > > Next step is easy. Just assign a MIDI message (e.g. program change > perhaps?) to fire the clip, the same way as you'd fire an Audio clip from > such a message. > > Select the MIDI Bindings button again. This time, click on the MIDI clip > you wish to fire. Now send the program change you want to use to trigger > that clip. A new binding should now appear on the left side screen, > reflecting the connection between your PC and firing the MIDI clip. > > So when you now exit the MIDI Bindings mode, you should be able to fire the > clip merely by sending that specific PC message on its specific MIDI > channel. > > Some other thoughts, caveats: > > Don't forget that the clips (usually) fire according to the quantize value. > That means that if the quantize is set for one bar, the clip will wait until > the bar boundary to fire. This may be useful (stack up a bunch of > individual clips that wait and then all fire off at the start of a bar, for > instance) or not ("why doesn't this @#$! button work right when I press > it"). If you want to turn this behavior off, you could set the quantize > value to "None". This might cause problems with other clips, since that > value is global, but you should be able to change the quantize value of an > individual clip within its edit pane. > > If you're working in Session view, you can only have one clip playing in > each vertical column at a time. However, you can have multiple clips > playing in a left-right row. As a matter of fact, if you click one of the > clip slots under the Master track, it will fire every clip in that row at > the next quantize boundary. You should also be able to bind those Master > slots to a MIDI command, so you could conceivably use a single PC command to > initiate a half-dozen MIDI clips simultaneously. > > If you wished, you could change the clips you're using on the fly by merely > moving them in and out of different rows (while binding your Program Change > to the row clip, rather than individual MIDI clips). This is especially nice > while composing, since you can try different combinations of MIDI clips > without having to redo their MIDI bindings, or mess around with > reconfiguring your foot controller. Just swap different clips in or out of a > row and fire it. > > Okay, there's a little more food for thought. Hope that helps a bit! > > > --m. > -- > _____ > "take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than one > step..." > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 22:02:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5153C3BE7F; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 22:02:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1244239336; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=/edzoYuyn17WXm8KeqcX/R+khdQ=; b=CKID2BnG+6rye8PWeCx5Rbzzddz3m+L8FDur2qGTXjtKADBqbv4oustr4fBT6d9Q Qa9dmIHbxRR/ahTi9xeuf4cP/KJe5ZMKho8Tn3O+znsndkKUmxxH85M0KjFu1LZt; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=nS36O97Bj3wUElCrIrAA:9 a=WSUfejPYnVaDIwHsvJh5HpFP3bwA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000501c9e629$49497bd0$8fed3547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: test Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:02:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 22:02:17 +0000 (UTC) test From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 22:13:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7B4B3BE7C; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 22:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1EB3D8628F384DBBAB91A432F90FC50D@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <000501c9e629$49497bd0$8fed3547@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: test Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 15:13:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 22:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Darn, and I forgot to study. Bob From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 5 22:18:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C3D93BE7E; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 22:18:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HNcrRwGYRNIdsS9ROjqt1nWkDkI92S3UE07L8aKHC68=; b=UPRUnRaGbaRUUAG1n5jZ4h1Pt8FVnkcNMuahdFTu+Au3hXs4PYGxVW2TPNIOUX+1NZ aFHMJKUY3E7PGLW+Ao3xZ7/sCavlwZ3CFZmEQiSBWeKR029e2WYKxcalaD0LGMPsHseO UHBCVxrZ+dQBudcT9ZfrtaJldbFlDLeZYjeK0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Qrf3/CSBOTDfxVGbRTKBa3EMgCsVJ1Brkn6PZJxQT875tvTyARxY6ZuGHAteVNaGvG 00THRXr+h8mbVdOJrMFuIQGZEDY6kC2G6OqnMWzfBKZMdZ8+9apgnswrYQa/YP59PHtm lw3zVsVXkN1N1LeeJJBWYhGTAm88hz22bJhVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1EB3D8628F384DBBAB91A432F90FC50D@bobdell> References: <000501c9e629$49497bd0$8fed3547@YOUR08D5303051> <1EB3D8628F384DBBAB91A432F90FC50D@bobdell> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 16:18:21 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: test From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221532cb8832097d046ba145e1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 22:18:22 +0000 (UTC) --00221532cb8832097d046ba145e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've got a cheat sheet if you need one ... ~~Dennis On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: > Darn, and I forgot to study. > > Bob > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --00221532cb8832097d046ba145e1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've got a cheat sheet if you need one ...

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On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Bob Amstadt <bob@amstadt.com> wrote:

Darn, and I forgo= t to study.

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--00221532cb8832097d046ba145e1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 6 04:19:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A9FF3BE7E; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 04:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 962 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 06 Jun 2009 04:19:22 UTC Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:07:14 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090604-0, 04/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 04:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Hi Jeff I'm interested in getting a stereo looper with midi sync, preferably a pedal, but not happy with those on the market. I currently use a EHX SMMH and while it's a lot of fun and good at what it does, there's no accurate way to set the tempo other than by tap or analogue dial without any BPM readout which means it inevitably drifts away from the timing of my other effects. =20 Midi sync is very important to me now. With the 2880, because it doesn't have tap tempo, and the tempo fader doesn't have an LED read out giving an accurate BPM, theres no choice for me but to slave it to another midi sync source. I've read reviews saying that if you have the 2880 slaved to a midi sync source, after recording the first loop when you immediately overdub, the loop playback slows down and speeds up the first time through which is simply unacceptable. Another review said the same thing, so you have to stop the 2880 before overdubbing, again unacceptable. What's your experience of the 2880 midi sync slaved? Thanks in advance. -- G. >To: >Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices) >From: "Jeff Duke" >Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:04:13 -0400 > >The 2880 even with it's limitations is one looper I have never regreted=20 >getting. What it can do far outweighs what it can't. > >Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 6 08:19:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60B533BE78; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 08:19:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A2A2678.3000605@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 04:19:04 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To The AM/FM Show Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0bcYK.A.f5D.FaiKKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 08:19:17 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be less than two hours from now, Saturday, June 6 at 6:00 am (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00). I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs in Phase 1. I will los play music from the new Cluster album. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 6 13:56:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18C973BE79; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 13:56:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1244296595; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=QzSSH3apJ2LyMRXTmV8tFQmoc/g=; b=cnRELGuOoaCqHoGndOQikJWeEUNyfPOkofR9ME7PE7N0sSQeUALx9Fa40JIZL1y8 pwfMehXpD21aEsfCoiCAIXpzTc6Ht2ZkgAfecds8K0wfclzTKKs+Yxy5PmeIaoZa; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=WnzYjt4fAAAA:8 a=ZGGhTNpsAAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=o0kpXdx7gVaM1vB5l8YA:9 a=qXTe00tlEZDr_nJe7jUA:7 a=j7c8-mProbpRzlZBAQhasIDRq_IA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=xqzQe8qR0o0zJ3-y:21 a=VQUm16fXZTxIgZnz:21 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000e01c9e6ae$9a5bdf60$8fed3547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 09:56:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 13:56:36 +0000 (UTC) >I'm interested in getting a stereo looper with midi sync, preferably a >pedal, but not happy with those on the market. Join the club here. I have 3 loopers DL 4, DD 20, and 2880. What they can do is what I have to focus on not what they can't. From reading here all loopers (should I say hardware? :)) have some wish lists and "if onlys" attached. >I currently use a EHX SMMH and while it's a lot of fun and good at what >it does, there's no accurate way to set the tempo other than by tap or >analogue dial without any BPM readout which means it inevitably drifts >away from the timing of my other effects. >Midi sync is very important to me now. What are you syncing to? In my experience even if you had a BPM readout on all loopers and fx they would drift apart. No two clocks are the same. I have read that the DD 20 is very stable and if you have 2 of them set the same they will stay together. I have not tried this however as I only have one. Great reviews here: http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/bossDD20/bossDD20.html I never use it in looper mode. I use it in delay mode. Up to 23 sec of stereo delay is a great looper for me. There is a way to double that time in one of these reviews. I really want one more of these. The DL 4 I mainly use for delay models because there is no feedback (fade) on the loop, although this can be simulated with the expression pedal. >With the 2880, because it doesn't have tap tempo, and the tempo fader >doesn't have an LED read out giving an accurate BPM, theres no choice >for me but to slave it to another midi sync source. Again what are you syncing to? I can tap in a loop that is pretty accurate for most uses. >I've read reviews saying that if you have the 2880 slaved to a midi >sync source, after recording the first loop when you immediately >overdub, the loop playback slows down and speeds up the first time >through which is simply unacceptable. This is not my experience. When synced to my Boss DR 670 it stays locked tight through all the overdubbing I do. It will drift if I put the 2880 in reverse while in slave to the Boss. Also if you stop the 2880 with the DR 670 running then start again it will not be in sync. I have to stop both with the DR. Of course you lose the octave down and fader tempo features in slave sync. I don't know how old that review you read was but there has been a software update that supposedly fixed some sync issues (but not all). >Another review said the same >thing, so you have to stop the 2880 before overdubbing, again >unacceptable. Again this is not my experience. I have never had that problem as long as the 2880 is in quantize mode. It syncs well as master or slave except for when throwing it into reverse while playing/overdubbing. I did do the software upgrade. I hope others will come forward with more on this. There is quite a bit in the archives if you dig around. I rarely use the 2880 with a sync source. Only for practice and such nowdays. I use it as a standalone very long delay type looper and tap sync it. It works good enough for what I do. As I said I have to make the most of what they all will do not just look at what they won't do. I hope this helps some. Storms raging, power is flashing, I had better go. I love Florida in the rainy season! Jeff http://jeffduke.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "G" To: Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:07 AM Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices) Hi Jeff I'm interested in getting a stereo looper with midi sync, preferably a pedal, but not happy with those on the market. I currently use a EHX SMMH and while it's a lot of fun and good at what it does, there's no accurate way to set the tempo other than by tap or analogue dial without any BPM readout which means it inevitably drifts away from the timing of my other effects. Midi sync is very important to me now. With the 2880, because it doesn't have tap tempo, and the tempo fader doesn't have an LED read out giving an accurate BPM, theres no choice for me but to slave it to another midi sync source. I've read reviews saying that if you have the 2880 slaved to a midi sync source, after recording the first loop when you immediately overdub, the loop playback slows down and speeds up the first time through which is simply unacceptable. Another review said the same thing, so you have to stop the 2880 before overdubbing, again unacceptable. What's your experience of the 2880 midi sync slaved? Thanks in advance. -- G. >To: >Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices) >From: "Jeff Duke" >Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:04:13 -0400 > >The 2880 even with it's limitations is one looper I have never regreted >getting. What it can do far outweighs what it can't. > >Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 6 17:21:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24B2D3BE77; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A2AA56B.2070200@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:20:43 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for June 6, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:21:40 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2009/090606.html The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #153 June 6, 2009. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early issues came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Faryus Vivid Dream Lucid Dreams (Faria) Faryus Clarity Lucid Dreams (Faria) Fear Falls Burning track 1 * The Carnival of Ourselves (Tonefloat) Johan Agebjorn The Sound of Snow- Massebo (Lotuspike) flakes Touhing the Ground Johan Agebjorn Massebo Massebo (Lotuspike) Vic Hennigan Seascape Aqua Vista (Alien Tribes) VA [Bob Whilley] A Game of Statues Sequences No. 6 VA [Fonya] (unknown) Sequences No. 6 VA [Alquimia] (unknown) Sequences No. 6 Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Pre-empted by Phase I. Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Marsupial Lean On Genus Thylacinus (none) Mind Furniture Shiva Part 1 Hoop of Flame (Musae) KTU Nano Quiver (Hoedown) Singularity XOT Of All the Mysteries (none) Ozric Tentacles Yumyum Tree The Yumyum Tree (Snapper) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT (GMT-4:00/ ITZ-5:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml ====================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 6 19:23:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98DB73BE78; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 19:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=eHP1kPWyFLRYdJiTRFDbDmyezQP53XNiOFPlv1F6o98=; b=YO4BF8Kj8KNFlFpS0ONjtfAzdFMKRCMLTGrIxqIG0XshEJBIQ51SgCjXTVUe6kl/Fn XeriebuVPWnt6yROYCYG6nlzPFG7YKF5jT2oNT3tiYUv2JbsqtsW0fe6Zo4aif/JriuZ 9UC9QLJZMv04sCvf8uqEn48KTe3e0X5zTTysA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=njbwX1/tt7RgXefjRgs/jXQWAMsY4Pi5xgjfBPue1S6lVd8Vg/wpUCt6mEdAlxec6D rrCLbZFj32TjtE0CPsOumk0+6bJOzFlevTorqMnYjlU+BH/bqe31l6r/UE+2nDFrFpn6 2NGO/WTSP0OcqaZHIUwmsTJ3sU4jzDOUeJ8R8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120906012111o232615eai215ff3cf3b6348b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <26ba8d120906012111o232615eai215ff3cf3b6348b1@mail.gmail.com> From: Tom Ritchford Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 15:22:37 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 225e528702a44075 Message-ID: <26ba8d120906061222l55d7bed2x811a545275bc22dd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f44becb8d5ee046bb2ef3b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 19:23:00 +0000 (UTC) --001485f44becb8d5ee046bb2ef3b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not one of you wants to play!? There's at least one full slot left or a couple of shorter ones... On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Tom Ritchford wrote: > Hello, Loopers. I'm very happy to announce the return of openLoop > http://loopny.com/ at the Jack the Pelican Presents gallery > http://jackthepelicanpresents.com/, as part of the Northside Arts > Festival. http://www.northsidefestival.com/ > > I'll be starting to loop around 6PM and we'll be going late. > > I'll send the finalized information closer to the date but I'd also like to > call for loopers who wish to participate in this activity to contact me! > > There's no pay but there are a gazillion people and press and I'll be > documenting and recording all of it. > > (In fact, I have all four days suddenly - Thursday's openLoop, Friday's > probably DJs, Saturday is bands and groups, Sunday's acoustic, so if you > have something entertaining that you'd like to show off in a gallery, lay it > on me.) > > loop on.... > > -- > /t > > -- /t --001485f44becb8d5ee046bb2ef3b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not one of you wants to play!?

There's at least one full slot le= ft or a couple of shorter ones...

On Tue,= Jun 2, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com> wrote:

Hello, Loopers.= =C2=A0 I'm very happy to announce the return of openLoop http://loopny.com/ at the Jack the P= elican Presents gallery http://jackthepelicanpresents.com/, as part of the Norths= ide Arts Festival.=C2=A0 http://www.northsidefestival.com/

I'll be starting to loop around 6PM and we'll be going late.=C2= =A0=C2=A0

I'll send the finalized information closer to the dat= e but I'd also like to call for loopers who wish to participate in this= activity to contact me!

There's no pay but there are a gazillion people and press and I'= ;ll be documenting and recording all of it.

(In fact, I have all fou= r days suddenly - Thursday's openLoop, Friday's probably DJs, Satur= day is bands and groups, Sunday's acoustic, so if you have something en= tertaining that you'd like to show off in a gallery, lay it on me.)

loop on....

--
=C2=A0= =C2=A0 /t

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--001485f44becb8d5ee046bb2ef3b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 6 20:07:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C89F3BE73; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 20:07:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=G53/UW0k+4FajtfmERQnns83dRzyZK6OqTPKNfXYNjo=; b=eqz8Qfp3d87e35AbPDo6ZXrShiuwBcBNXwrWg2mBQAq+eSEIQxu7VBwoqpndp3KzCv mPTXcQjgFPe/hzLtOgZQFxENTESeUMvnNStD0/kLKnF85g/XSs0NINk/u7SNPaORXZzB FKyH1Cm0HgT0m+LWQGxLL9yzV9Ps0kRPCPycU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KVyOV/LRreohAwWcZ617LqHOaNMQlI90dIv/s8NYzZvo9T80v/VQc/BQM59fn/6INl MrIevaXQebFoP8egl31EH2uTqUXFXNzhdevF+Lmt0JDN4rTbnGO1oRXYSHp2iv+vSfka G31+oYQRBNucM3ux423sr5X1qJDYzReROEEn4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120906061222l55d7bed2x811a545275bc22dd@mail.gmail.com> References: <26ba8d120906012111o232615eai215ff3cf3b6348b1@mail.gmail.com> <26ba8d120906061222l55d7bed2x811a545275bc22dd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 16:07:40 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60906061307y2fa51ce4tcb6bf5018be25f72@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b314afd6b0046bb38fcc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 20:07:42 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b314afd6b0046bb38fcc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom what are the slots that remain open and how long? Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5b314afd6b0046bb38fcc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom what are the slots that remain open and how long?

Jim
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ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...
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music links...
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--001636c5b314afd6b0046bb38fcc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 6 20:33:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8874D3BE7C; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 20:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=2lWCXk7f+p0sKgL3nZQ7oqdlIYnbgoRYGr91x4JG6z8=; b=at27yftArAo3tRjqR7EwvjgaLHHDxLA5DHPR4BorWdvzpFnH6CpoaUupWA3gbQoCsm tmNAqW19Fdk0BJSjWxdja08JtfRBWcACjKE6Qz0ABpen5jpOYLCdW6uZSmXq41XmQXGH ETfgD1Dm9fvfZ3etR/aN9HF5m+WtK9PIOHtl8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=qWAMgIgyZjjzN0PSkhanz+chNn/v2CuSGVUCnWVDwvSylzrg86UafdNTQ6RBVNIqeB 8Kgq/rktJUpn2VNCBAkYqODraTqvsgCNpgjPDOaDDWgteTj3MnRNUf/bSsRJK8ObidVK Gj9c7UjYDiVG6o+iqj0EeXRtiQAV7kMNoLK54= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60906061307y2fa51ce4tcb6bf5018be25f72@mail.gmail.com> References: <26ba8d120906012111o232615eai215ff3cf3b6348b1@mail.gmail.com> <26ba8d120906061222l55d7bed2x811a545275bc22dd@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60906061307y2fa51ce4tcb6bf5018be25f72@mail.gmail.com> From: Tom Ritchford Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 16:33:09 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: de125814c862db03 Message-ID: <26ba8d120906061333k8f8d2ddpbbdc5926af617360@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f85edef7fba9046bb3ebfb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 20:33:30 +0000 (UTC) --001485f85edef7fba9046bb3ebfb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm doing an 8-hour open loop on Thursday and most of the musicians showing up are pretty flexible - so name your time. I'm playing 4PM till midnight (or as long after that as I have energy) but don't expect much in the way of a crowd till about 6PM. If you have a stand-alone set you want to do another night, things are more tight - Friday's still got some wiggle room. On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Tom what are the slots that remain open and how long? > > Jim > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > -- /t --001485f85edef7fba9046bb3ebfb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm doing an 8-hour open loop on Thursday and most of the musicians sho= wing up are pretty flexible - so name your time.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I'm playin= g 4PM till midnight (or as long after that as I have energy) but don't = expect much in the way of a crowd till about 6PM.

If you have a stand-alone set you want to do another night, things are = more tight - Friday's still got some wiggle room.

On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Jim Goodin &= lt;jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com= > wrote:

Tom what are the = slots that remain open and how long?

Jim
--
ReUse, = an introspective textural aural journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapa= intingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
www.myspace.com/chinapai= ntingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
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www.youtube.co= m/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
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--001485f85edef7fba9046bb3ebfb-- From zwgfcs@accounts.net Sun Jun 7 00:32:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.17]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C373BE6F; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 00:32:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1906.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 248F5200006D; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 02:32:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from User (LRouen-151-72-32-211.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr [80.13.191.211]) by mwinf1906.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id DF30F200005D; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 02:32:29 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090607003229914.DF30F200005D@mwinf1906.orange.fr Reply-To: zwgfcs@accounts.net From: Commonwealth Bank of Australia Subject: Netbank Account Reactivation Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 02:32:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20090607003229.DF30F200005D@mwinf1906.orange.fr> To: undisclosed-recipients:;

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From ali73harrin@msn.com Sun Jun 7 03:06:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 321 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:06:08 UTC Received: from blu0-omc2-s14.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s14.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.89]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010973BE6F for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 03:05:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU122-W19 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s14.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 6 Jun 2009 20:00:34 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_70c8150b-e629-414f-ad46-1f482f028883_" X-Originating-IP: [41.203.228.74] Reply-To: From: ali harrin Subject: Am waiting your urgent respnse!!! Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 03:00:34 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2009 03:00:34.0352 (UTC) FILETIME=[2048EB00:01C9E71C] To: undisclosed-recipients:; --_70c8150b-e629-414f-ad46-1f482f028883_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It will be a surprise for you to receive this mail.=20 =20 I am Mr Ali Harrin=2C the director of accounts & auditing dept. At the bank= of Africa Ouagadougou-west Africa .=20 With due respect i have decided to contact you on a business transaction th= at will be beneficial to both of us. At the bank's last accounts/auditing e= valuations=2C my staffs came across an old account which was being maintain= ed by a foreign client who we learnt was among the deceased passengers of a= n airline crash on 6th November 2003.=20 =20 Since the deceased was unable to run this account since his death. The acco= unt has remained dormant without the knowledge of his family since it was p= ut in a safe deposit account in the bank for future investment by the clien= t. Since his demise=2C nobody=2C not even the members of his family have ap= plied for claims over this fund and it has been in the safe deposit account= until we discovered that it cannot be claimed since our client is a foreig= n national and we are sure that he has no next of kin here to file claims o= ver the money.=20 As the director of the dept=2C this discovery was brought to my office so a= s to decide what is to be done. With the few personnel in my dept=2C we dec= ided to seek ways through which to transfer this money out of the bank and = out of the country too.=20 The total amount in the account is Fifteen million dollars (USD15=2C 000=2C= 000.00) with our positions as staffs of the bank=2C we are handicapped beca= use we cannot operate foreign accounts and cannot lay bona fide claim over = this money. The client is a foreign national and you will only be asked to = act as his next of kin and i will supply you with all the necessary informa= tion=92s and bank data to assist you in being able to transfer this money t= o any bank of your choice where this money could be transfer into.=20 =20 I and my partners have decided to give away thirty %(30%) to you for your a= ssistance and ten (10%) for any expenses that might arise during the transa= ction of this transfer. we want to assure you that this transaction is abso= lutely risk free since we work in this bank which is why you should be conf= ident in the success of this transaction because you will be updated with i= nformation as at when desired and i will please wish you keep this transact= ion secret and confidential.=20 =20 Upon your reply i will send to you the details and text of application whic= h you are going to fill and send to the bank for the claiming of the said f= und into your bank account. =20 May ALLAH help you to help us to a restiveretirement. Amin. Thanks and remain blessed=2C Mr Ali Harrin.= --_70c8150b-e629-414f-ad46-1f482f028883_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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=3B
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As the director of the dept=2C t= his discovery was brought to my office so as to decide what is to be done. = With the few personnel in my dept=2C we decided to seek ways through which = to transfer this money out of the bank and out of the country too.
The = total amount in the account is Fifteen million dollars (USD15=2C 000=2C000.= 00) with our positions as staffs of the bank=2C we are handicapped because = we cannot operate foreign accounts and cannot lay bona fide claim over this= money. The client is a foreign national and you will only be asked to act = as his next of kin and i will supply you with all the necessary information= =92s and bank data to assist you in being able to transfer this money to an= y bank of your choice where this money could be transfer into.
=3B=
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= --_70c8150b-e629-414f-ad46-1f482f028883_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 7 03:20:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76E5A3BE77; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 03:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=HE6bEBP3/WgzazfyWf5DT1wr8d6+yHbRXILsrvXrIxc=; b=eAhcaKAZKJf9OdcnruiJ1LntKZH69m0IMmPoHzRLhaskYswuqv3x6DVe1run9id4Kr yf8tHw6X3CFBxOey2OK1J2GtDfv6zJbjBQhg/ZApdalebsvPdv1f7KvyIOpAtpLK98Ix 7+sfZfohJD/KuFx68x71fzVUer/GkZxSh2XYw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Twku3a2mhqxgplsTGkVU0uM6GWlyqz6YN6dD6EhPUDiSJzIFZRALUMBWS1KwwuUbB5 eBec2LlpN0ogKwU3bUoVmQ1Ysl4/LsbDKCxMjnvML/hfT/MTYlzWlXv1JWG4NyDfAE+4 s6lKvqLf8SfdRbdG7eysV82SxgA7pTJyK3Mok= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 23:20:06 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60906062020k39e39769q7ef741901ac36453@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Virtual Gigspam: Jim Goodin webcast Sunday Morning at 11 From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636988a0b3011bf046bb99a1a Resent-Message-ID: <2HEpuD.A.rnF.oHzKKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 03:20:08 +0000 (UTC) --001636988a0b3011bf046bb99a1a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reminder that I'll be webcasting live on uStream tomorrow morning (Sunday June 7) in a set of my guitarism/oudism and loopism improvs beginning at 11am EST (other times below). My bi-weekly series *Sunday Morning at 11* can be heard/seen at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11. Times around the globe are 8am PST, 10am CST, 4pm UK, 5pm & 6pm Europe, Midnight Japan. To check show times in your area, http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html. Sidebar if you never had the chance to check out the Chinapainting studio CD *Night Blooming Cereus* that Daryl and I released last summer, though we have it on iTunes and other net places I recently put it on Bandcamp at http://jimgoodin.bandcamp.com/album/chinapainting-night-blooming-cereus. We're very proud of this document and if you've not checked it out give it a spin on Bandcamp. As this is a supporting community though we try to sell what we can, I do want to pass along that it is freely downloadable on Bandcamp by just leaving your email address. So if you're up or around the computer/net tomorrow morning please tune in. Have a great rest of a looping weekend. Cheers Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey www.myspace.com/CtReUse & jimgoodin.bandcamp.com music links... jimgoodin.blogspot.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636988a0b3011bf046bb99a1a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reminder that I'll be webcasting live on uStream tomorrow morning (Sund= ay June 7) in a set of my guitarism/oudism and loopism improvs beginning at= 11am EST (other times below). =A0My bi-weekly series Sunday Morning at = 11=A0can be heard/seen at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11.

Times around the globe are 8am PST, 10am CST, 4pm UK, 5pm &a= mp; 6pm Europe, Midnight Japan. =A0To check show times in your area,=A0http://www.tim= eanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html.

Sidebar if you never had the chance to check out the Ch= inapainting studio CD Night Blooming Cereus that Daryl and I release= d last summer, though we have it on iTunes and other net places I recently = put it on Bandcamp at http://jimgoodin.bandcamp.com/album/chinapai= nting-night-blooming-cereus. =A0We're very proud of this document a= nd if you've not checked it out give it a spin on Bandcamp. =A0As this = is a supporting community though we try to sell what we can, I do want to p= ass along that it is freely downloadable on Bandcamp by just leaving your e= mail address.

=A0=A0

So if you're up or around the computer/net tomorr= ow morning please tune in. =A0Have a great rest of a looping weekend.

Cheers

Jim
--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey www.myspace.com/CtReUse & jimgoodin.bandcamp.com

music links...
jimgoodin.blogspot.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

--001636988a0b3011bf046bb99a1a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 7 09:44:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A9EE3BE7C; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 09:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <2F675583A34149898A36A999F70558E7@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <26ba8d120906012111o232615eai215ff3cf3b6348b1@mail.gmail.com> <26ba8d120906061222l55d7bed2x811a545275bc22dd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 10:44:22 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C9E75C.EB0F5D70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 09:44:31 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C9E75C.EB0F5D70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi at last folks, Did someone say remote loopage? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Ritchford=20 To: Loopers-Delight=20 Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers Not one of you wants to play!? There's at least one full slot left or a couple of shorter ones... On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Tom Ritchford wrote: Hello, Loopers. I'm very happy to announce the return of openLoop = http://loopny.com/ at the Jack the Pelican Presents gallery = http://jackthepelicanpresents.com/, as part of the Northside Arts = Festival. http://www.northsidefestival.com/ I'll be starting to loop around 6PM and we'll be going late. =20 I'll send the finalized information closer to the date but I'd also = like to call for loopers who wish to participate in this activity to = contact me! There's no pay but there are a gazillion people and press and I'll = be documenting and recording all of it. (In fact, I have all four days suddenly - Thursday's openLoop, = Friday's probably DJs, Saturday is bands and groups, Sunday's acoustic, = so if you have something entertaining that you'd like to show off in a = gallery, lay it on me.) loop on.... --=20 /t --=20 /t ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C9E75C.EB0F5D70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF

Hi at last folks,

Did someone say remote=20 loopage?

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Tom = Ritchford

To: Loopers-Delight =

Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 = 8:22=20 PM

Subject: Re: NYC: the return of = openLoop,=20 June 11; call for loopers

Not one of you wants to play!?

There's at least = one full=20 slot left or a couple of shorter ones...

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Tom = Ritchford <tom@swirly.com>=20 wrote:

Hello,=20 Loopers. I'm very happy to announce the return of openLoop http://loopny.com/ = at the Jack=20 the Pelican Presents gallery http://jackthepelicanpresents.com/, as part of = the=20 Northside Arts Festival. http://www.northsidefestival.com/

I'll be = starting=20 to loop around 6PM and we'll be going late.

I'll = send=20 the finalized information closer to the date but I'd also like to = call for=20 loopers who wish to participate in this activity to contact=20 me!

There's no pay but there are a gazillion people and press = and=20 I'll be documenting and recording all of it.

(In fact, I have = all=20 four days suddenly - Thursday's openLoop, Friday's probably DJs, = Saturday is=20 bands and groups, Sunday's acoustic, so if you have something = entertaining=20 that you'd like to show off in a gallery, lay it on me.)

loop = on....

--
= /t

-- =
=20 /t

------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C9E75C.EB0F5D70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 7 13:33:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B833B3BE79; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 13:33:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=je0VYJGw5vPKQMtoeDOSunHhXTO5UlYa3kjU4I+2QSQ=; b=aKI+zflDEwn7k2Cu6ZCtHy+KPmlWutL75r2xuAxg7gtk86UxItKLjyeMGxEthblCli 2BV1cYg4ILPb2CGMKa0YQxk1Rrfy3bDVseR+sU+QmpVwJb+NK02ToqJuIk+41rZegdC8 BpKTP79bB7MufXCepDQLzAgS3vZQEqEuFXc/c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=I0+DW/Y5ATrx/WWYFPNlsEUt4qYw8S89Vf0RbB2fkZC4lFWk7xHowKVrmyDM4ByKuH EmLqB4SJTn4BaQGj7MAubjZbiAvWovl5JJh/RO7P0JHEUYloexuB8lXufcYmOCdPzXUS hjg48CPvYec47Omst9Ego8J0P5QNJi3R27C7k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120906061333k8f8d2ddpbbdc5926af617360@mail.gmail.com> References: <26ba8d120906012111o232615eai215ff3cf3b6348b1@mail.gmail.com> <26ba8d120906061222l55d7bed2x811a545275bc22dd@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60906061307y2fa51ce4tcb6bf5018be25f72@mail.gmail.com> <26ba8d120906061333k8f8d2ddpbbdc5926af617360@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 09:33:41 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e7baed7958f60664 Message-ID: <101191640906070633p652fa4bahf482f5da1abfb18c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362837948a2def046bc22c97 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 13:33:42 +0000 (UTC) --0016362837948a2def046bc22c97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Tom Ritchford wrote: > I'm doing an 8-hour open loop on Thursday and most of the musicians showing > up are pretty flexible - so name your time. I'm playing 4PM till midnight > (or as long after that as I have energy) but don't expect much in the way of > a crowd till about 6PM. > BTW, I'll be there most of the time (I won't be getting started at 4, probably get there around 5 and set up for an hour). I'll be there with all sorts of drum patterns and loops, as well as my gtr synth of course. I'll have midi clocks out in case you want to sync (I could also accept them, but I'm basically configured as "master clock") or I can lay off the looping (or just make short transient loops) while you loop and lay in some bass parts or whatever on guitar synth. --0016362837948a2def046bc22c97 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Tom Ritc= hford <tom@swirly.co= m> wrote:

I'm doing an 8-hour open loop on Thursday and most of the musicians sho= wing up are pretty flexible - so name your time.=A0=A0 I'm playing 4PM = till midnight (or as long after that as I have energy) but don't expect= much in the way of a crowd till about 6PM.

BTW, I'll be there most of the time (I won't = be getting started at 4, probably get there around 5 and set up for an hour= ). I'll be there with all sorts of drum patterns and loops, as well as = my gtr synth of course. I'll have midi clocks out in case you want to s= ync (I could also accept them, but I'm basically configured as "ma= ster clock") or I can lay off the looping (or just make short transien= t loops) while you loop and lay in some bass parts or whatever on guitar sy= nth.

--0016362837948a2def046bc22c97-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 7 13:57:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C16A43BE77; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 13:57:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Bi5ll7qfjg6YJu5/sVxm70lkcGliDmy92iwkyo9OnWxcILjbV3oHK+71kV/hvEuNm+TVFrvXHqeN2M2FIHvtCnjDgnDJvlbUrcaTzZpik0sOVLR5+QRedUcb80HUq4rNZHr9wBfqPHiRBAV9FBA9vIGn/+iLJ7Np4GL+/SZ8RqM= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: jodRvSQVM1m_Bvdwuwfw7Fv91ZxyWbPpzeomBOpPxOYYoUwxs.TT0zshTvfRB7uLrwPtqHl.riV0s3zNK4MsgOb4A8fjABG9_5toPb5l8LrcV_630ZMf7c47pBk1WeM3so1PmVPqHPIAbZVPoDhEOGzPM8IAom8oOZUkCcfLoUewfHNCC7Jm5evLq0MLC3Xq_imD_hvOg2bx9IB43lw.K7PnBzp2E4ziWtPtNP0J4TEcmbyERMR9Qgw80U2TEyqSlrAzVffHi0bSkC60sIaiH66.KXSFDv0rxN4Hgfr_eT1iyRDQ2pN1HiRGi_ibAN5MBReivLIp.H9MN5yG5KMlps5Vrk8REoSm.GA- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <10EEE1E99E984E55B3E3DE9C3D940586@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <26ba8d120906012111o232615eai215ff3cf3b6348b1@mail.gmail.com> <26ba8d120906061222l55d7bed2x811a545275bc22dd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:57:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C9E780.4A436250" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 13:57:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C9E780.4A436250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd love to play! Maybe the next time in NYC. :) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Ritchford=20 To: Loopers-Delight=20 Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers Not one of you wants to play!? There's at least one full slot left or a couple of shorter ones... On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Tom Ritchford wrote: Hello, Loopers. I'm very happy to announce the return of openLoop = http://loopny.com/ at the Jack the Pelican Presents gallery = http://jackthepelicanpresents.com/, as part of the Northside Arts = Festival. http://www.northsidefestival.com/ I'll be starting to loop around 6PM and we'll be going late. =20 I'll send the finalized information closer to the date but I'd also = like to call for loopers who wish to participate in this activity to = contact me! There's no pay but there are a gazillion people and press and I'll = be documenting and recording all of it. (In fact, I have all four days suddenly - Thursday's openLoop, = Friday's probably DJs, Saturday is bands and groups, Sunday's acoustic, = so if you have something entertaining that you'd like to show off in a = gallery, lay it on me.) loop on.... --=20 /t --=20 /t -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.54/2158 - Release Date: = 06/06/09 05:53:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C9E780.4A436250 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF

I'd love to play! Maybe the next time = in NYC.=20 :)

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Tom = Ritchford

To: Loopers-Delight =

Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 = 8:22=20 PM

Subject: Re: NYC: the return of = openLoop,=20 June 11; call for loopers

Not one of you wants to play!?

There's at least = one full=20 slot left or a couple of shorter ones...

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Tom = Ritchford <tom@swirly.com>=20 wrote:

Hello,=20 Loopers. I'm very happy to announce the return of openLoop http://loopny.com/ = at the Jack=20 the Pelican Presents gallery http://jackthepelicanpresents.com/, as part of = the=20 Northside Arts Festival. http://www.northsidefestival.com/

I'll be = starting=20 to loop around 6PM and we'll be going late.

I'll = send=20 the finalized information closer to the date but I'd also like to = call for=20 loopers who wish to participate in this activity to contact=20 me!

There's no pay but there are a gazillion people and press = and=20 I'll be documenting and recording all of it.

(In fact, I have = all=20 four days suddenly - Thursday's openLoop, Friday's probably DJs, = Saturday is=20 bands and groups, Sunday's acoustic, so if you have something = entertaining=20 that you'd like to show off in a gallery, lay it on me.)

loop = on....

--
= /t

-- =
=20 /t

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Checked by AVG = -=20 www.avg.com
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------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C9E780.4A436250-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 7 14:57:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AF593BE77; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:57:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <29508517-0F9D-4235-898F-D8D0D8662A5A@guru-records.com> From: Omid Shirazi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120906012111o232615eai215ff3cf3b6348b1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--208520408 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 16:57:31 +0200 References: <26ba8d120906012111o232615eai215ff3cf3b6348b1@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:57:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--208520408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Tom, here is a demo of my selfmade audiovisual instrument "vision one": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crnYUibe7zs I have posted it once on the forum, but it seemed not getting through! I live in cologne/germany and have made this instrument myself Hope you enjoy, Omid audio visual artist mailto: smoking@guru-records.com phone: +49-178-78 52 223 Am 02.06.2009 um 06:11 schrieb Tom Ritchford: > Hello, Loopers. I'm very happy to announce the return of openLoop http://loopny.com/ > at the Jack the Pelican Presents gallery http://jackthepelicanpresents.com/ > , as part of the Northside Arts Festival. http://www.northsidefestival.com/ > > I'll be starting to loop around 6PM and we'll be going late. > > I'll send the finalized information closer to the date but I'd also > like to call for loopers who wish to participate in this activity to > contact me! > > There's no pay but there are a gazillion people and press and I'll > be documenting and recording all of it. > > (In fact, I have all four days suddenly - Thursday's openLoop, > Friday's probably DJs, Saturday is bands and groups, Sunday's > acoustic, so if you have something entertaining that you'd like to > show off in a gallery, lay it on me.) > > loop on.... > > -- > /t > --Apple-Mail-1--208520408 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tom,

here = is a demo of my selfmade audiovisual instrument "vision = one":

http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DcrnYUibe7zs

I have posted it = once on the forum, but it seemed not getting through!

I live = in cologne/germany and have made this instrument = myself

Hope you enjoy,

Omid

audio visual = artist

mailto: smoking@guru-records.com

phone: +49-178-78 52 223

Am = 02.06.2009 um 06:11 schrieb Tom Ritchford:

Hello, = Loopers. I'm very happy to announce the return of openLoop http://loopny.com/ at the Jack the = Pelican Presents gallery http://jackthepelicanpresents.= com/, as part of the Northside Arts Festival. http://www.northsidefestival.co= m/

I'll be starting to loop around 6PM and we'll be going = late.

I'll send the finalized information closer to = the date but I'd also like to call for loopers who wish to participate = in this activity to contact me!

There's no pay but there are a = gazillion people and press and I'll be documenting and recording all of = it.

(In fact, I have all four days suddenly - Thursday's = openLoop, Friday's probably DJs, Saturday is bands and groups, Sunday's = acoustic, so if you have something entertaining that you'd like to show = off in a gallery, lay it on me.)

loop on....

--
= /t

= --Apple-Mail-1--208520408-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 7 15:23:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C2C63BE79; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 15:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hkswSfDcsZfLs4UmY5NzB+gREpFO8j6y0h0gmtz1ZH4=; b=V86Duf1ftT1EhUxLADDpnID+qwcy5kFZvDxoPCpJOuA8UvTiH0p8omBJCM8NqkoKfd TdpZuhYh0E1YkLSZcHJY09t/TEKiw3XzPuiNZQvHmFnq6V9OQYRPT6sx9sWphDW7Sv3d KXYwvErwZBXi41kC6IJugQ7QluyTp7T2XhLe8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FvJE0tBh9b2VAHeIX0YHWgiGQoz8ohYAiiJkBYBLS3I/uC03oCagw6uM3er2bCuaMq BkelHLYu4TBFRJyoaFYXIVOWQ+bM2cMzWizIHFDo6mNf68/pP2X0SD+2pr9Wnkk2FZ8w iHKIu/1Dqr9b/Ob5sHYF6bjYxw0x+HLcxHY3E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <29508517-0F9D-4235-898F-D8D0D8662A5A@guru-records.com> References: <26ba8d120906012111o232615eai215ff3cf3b6348b1@mail.gmail.com> <29508517-0F9D-4235-898F-D8D0D8662A5A@guru-records.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:23:20 -0400 Message-ID: <44e368750906070823l735036e2q11ad4e9770e5b74a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 15:23:23 +0000 (UTC) just sold my lp1...otherwise I'd be down. - jim On Sunday, June 7, 2009, Omid Shirazi wrote: > Hi Tom, > here is a demo of my selfmade audiovisual instrument "vision one":http://= www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcrnYUibe7zs > I have posted it once on the forum, but it seemed not getting through!I l= ive in cologne/germany and have made this instrument myself > Hope you enjoy, Omid > audio visual artistmailto: smoking@guru-records.comphone: +49-178-78 52 2= 23 > Am 02.06.2009 um 06:11 schrieb Tom Ritchford: > Hello, Loopers.=A0 I'm very happy to announce the return of openLoop http= ://loopny.com/ at the Jack the Pelican Presents gallery http://jackthepelic= anpresents.com/, as part of the Northside Arts Festival.=A0 http://www.nort= hsidefestival.com/ > > I'll be starting to loop around 6PM and we'll be going late. > > I'll send the finalized information closer to the date but I'd also like = to call for loopers who wish to participate in this activity to contact me! > > There's no pay but there are a gazillion people and press and I'll be doc= umenting and recording all of it. > > (In fact, I have all four days suddenly - Thursday's openLoop, Friday's p= robably DJs, Saturday is bands and groups, Sunday's acoustic, so if you hav= e something entertaining that you'd like to show off in a gallery, lay it o= n me.) > > loop on.... > -- > =A0 =A0 /t > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 7 17:07:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A6C63BE73; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CJVCBYL1XLqA7h9fyeyFKt/WfmntMAOwqP3fsbMzviE=; b=li182m6Hgrl1CwzmlHWcslf/GCUUpdBu1DwJNivSKulhfRIxEP5BQQcTYq+5c0OnN5 kwTNXYJv+thrXDJ6UKE5glDFpJ4ve4+XBpQXYuQ2Dx7bOBo0SR3Mo0wOpvrh80NNCBB7 d1aJhKrOWK9gUA5w5l83i+hm95mebvVpGnNTE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cHBeGCh+8tVBr0nk5xb0kSSa/Mg5o+8m+Sa01Gu2Q57tjXu/tDKzlvlOhRFBGIxQjX 9O6FYvCsOm9jbcri6Np3ycn05f9JICT8pyX4ZfMVx5cW57sXetXKH3jsCFjpy9YuWKeA Wf2M3l5F6KQKZuI8YH5I94rL/zEdHQW+GBN78= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <29508517-0F9D-4235-898F-D8D0D8662A5A@guru-records.com> References: <26ba8d120906012111o232615eai215ff3cf3b6348b1@mail.gmail.com> <29508517-0F9D-4235-898F-D8D0D8662A5A@guru-records.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 10:07:09 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers From: Michael Billow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6434aaef08bd6046bc52761 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:07:12 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6434aaef08bd6046bc52761 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I LOVE IT! On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Omid Shirazi wrote: > Hi Tom, > here is a demo of my selfmade audiovisual instrument "vision one": > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crnYUibe7zs > > I have posted it once on the forum, but it seemed not getting through! > I live in cologne/germany and have made this instrument myself > > Hope you enjoy, > Omid > > audio visual artist > mailto: smoking@guru-records.com > phone: +49-178-78 52 223 > > Am 02.06.2009 um 06:11 schrieb Tom Ritchford: > > Hello, Loopers. I'm very happy to announce the return of openLoop > http://loopny.com/ at the Jack the Pelican Presents gallery > http://jackthepelicanpresents.com/, as part of the Northside Arts > Festival. http://www.northsidefestival.com/ > > I'll be starting to loop around 6PM and we'll be going late. > > I'll send the finalized information closer to the date but I'd also like to > call for loopers who wish to participate in this activity to contact me! > > There's no pay but there are a gazillion people and press and I'll be > documenting and recording all of it. > > (In fact, I have all four days suddenly - Thursday's openLoop, Friday's > probably DJs, Saturday is bands and groups, Sunday's acoustic, so if you > have something entertaining that you'd like to show off in a gallery, lay it > on me.) > > loop on.... > > -- > /t > > > --0016e6434aaef08bd6046bc52761 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I LOVE IT!

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 7:57 AM= , Omid Shirazi <smoking@guru-records.com> wrote:

Hi Tom,

here is a demo of my selfmade au= diovisual instrument "vision one":
http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DcrnYUibe7zs

I have posted it once on the forum, but it seemed not g= etting through!
I live in cologne/germany and have made this inst= rument myself

Hope you enjoy,

Omid

audio visual artist
mailto: smoking@guru-records.com
phone: +49-178-78 52 223

Am 02.06.2009 um 06:11 schrieb Tom Ritchford:

Hello, Loopers.=A0 I'm very hap= py to announce the return of openLoop http://loopny.com/ at the Jack the Pelican Presents gallery= http://ja= ckthepelicanpresents.com/, as part of the Northside Arts Festival.=A0 <= a href=3D"http://www.northsidefestival.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.n= orthsidefestival.com/

I'll be starting to loop around 6PM and we'll be going late.= =A0=A0

I'll send the finalized information closer to the date b= ut I'd also like to call for loopers who wish to participate in this ac= tivity to contact me!

There's no pay but there are a gazillion people and press and I= 9;ll be documenting and recording all of it.

(In fact, I have all fo= ur days suddenly - Thursday's openLoop, Friday's probably DJs, Satu= rday is bands and groups, Sunday's acoustic, so if you have something e= ntertaining that you'd like to show off in a gallery, lay it on me.)
loop on....

--
=A0 =A0 /t

--0016e6434aaef08bd6046bc52761-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 7 17:27:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FC6F3BE73; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:27:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1244395668; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=cRTp1xeoRqjZ94IzOviC0miykb4=; b=hjJLtTGYNzaIBRCzqv4RpcFCKLIm5q0bi50f/s/FFzREIXHVKfyQ91X+g2/tBLCd jKASgDMzBn7Uwe1QHb1FI9nCtqNsjkvGEa7LAbMfZV1jBppskXh71CEKm6OP/dh8; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HBzsXB9djFsA:10 a=uCxPy4rKlMsA:10 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=m39u4BOgAAAA:8 a=VDq_j9yBAAAA:8 a=ckr4hrkZAAAA:8 a=v3tWDuasAAAA:8 a=LfHOq1RrckQITo-jWPIA:9 a=qlZUe82KqS4B2z1SFbKKK_Ks2jsA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=E4iGBcHZAIsA:10 a=uLSEpVLjRwT336e0kmoA:9 a=YAJaDduxvawLMEmHkLwA:7 a=9ZfANmXyPeHjnnPiZyAB7xVCuzEA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001601c9e795$46df4330$8fed3547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <26ba8d120906012111o232615eai215ff3cf3b6348b1@mail.gmail.com> <29508517-0F9D-4235-898F-D8D0D8662A5A@guru-records.com> Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 13:27:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C9E773.BF6BD420" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:27:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C9E773.BF6BD420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fantasic!! Thank you, Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Omid Shirazi=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 10:57 AM Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers Hi Tom, here is a demo of my selfmade audiovisual instrument "vision one": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcrnYUibe7zs I have posted it once on the forum, but it seemed not getting through! I live in cologne/germany and have made this instrument myself Hope you enjoy, Omid audio visual artist mailto: smoking@guru-records.com phone: +49-178-78 52 223 Am 02.06.2009 um 06:11 schrieb Tom Ritchford: Hello, Loopers. I'm very happy to announce the return of openLoop = http://loopny.com/ at the Jack the Pelican Presents gallery = http://jackthepelicanpresents.com/, as part of the Northside Arts = Festival. http://www.northsidefestival.com/ I'll be starting to loop around 6PM and we'll be going late. =20 I'll send the finalized information closer to the date but I'd also = like to call for loopers who wish to participate in this activity to = contact me! There's no pay but there are a gazillion people and press and I'll = be documenting and recording all of it. (In fact, I have all four days suddenly - Thursday's openLoop, = Friday's probably DJs, Saturday is bands and groups, Sunday's acoustic, = so if you have something entertaining that you'd like to show off in a = gallery, lay it on me.) loop on.... --=20 /t ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C9E773.BF6BD420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Fantasic!! Thank you,

Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Omid=20 Shirazi
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20

Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 = 10:57=20 AM

Subject: Re: NYC: the return of = openLoop,=20 June 11; call for loopers

Hi Tom,

here is a demo of my selfmade audiovisual instrument "vision = one":

http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DcrnYUibe7zs

I have posted it once on the forum, but it seemed not getting=20 through!

I live in cologne/germany and have made this instrument = myself

Hope you enjoy,

Omid

audio visual artist

mailto: smoking@guru-records.com
phone: +49-178-78 52 223

Am 02.06.2009 um 06:11 schrieb Tom Ritchford:

Hello, Loopers. I'm very happy to = announce the=20 return of openLoop http://loopny.com/ at=20 the Jack the Pelican Presents gallery http://jackthepelicanpresents= .com/,=20 as part of the Northside Arts Festival. http://www.northsidefestival.c= om/

I'll=20 be starting to loop around 6PM and we'll be going late. =20

I'll send the finalized information closer to the date but = I'd also=20 like to call for loopers who wish to participate in this activity to = contact=20 me!

There's no pay but there are a gazillion people and press = and=20 I'll be documenting and recording all of it.

(In fact, I have = all=20 four days suddenly - Thursday's openLoop, Friday's probably DJs, = Saturday is=20 bands and groups, Sunday's acoustic, so if you have something = entertaining=20 that you'd like to show off in a gallery, lay it on me.)

loop = on....

--
=20 /t

------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C9E773.BF6BD420-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 7 17:59:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 756C63BE7C; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:59:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 379 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:59:29 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=FaJUweOuIjjozNgEPHk5tJfYGj+TQnPASpIFabw6svxSLfq2iI+bsdQfaOnBJQJj; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: From: joe cavaleri To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <29508517-0F9D-4235-898F-D8D0D8662A5A@guru-records.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--197983219 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 10:53:09 -0700 References: <26ba8d120906012111o232615eai215ff3cf3b6348b1@mail.gmail.com> <29508517-0F9D-4235-898F-D8D0D8662A5A@guru-records.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-ELNK-Trace: 573b2ac3a2420bc9f258f48946e2642d9ef193a6bfc3dd48941b07b7ccb924236a5a3e6f11db5d5b07c87288fcf778e7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.167.7.120 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:59:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--197983219 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i love it when I see this kind of creativity. joe On Jun 7, 2009, at 7:57 AM, Omid Shirazi wrote: > Hi Tom, > > here is a demo of my selfmade audiovisual instrument "vision one": > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crnYUibe7zs > > I have posted it once on the forum, but it seemed not getting through! > I live in cologne/germany and have made this instrument myself > > Hope you enjoy, > Omid > > audio visual artist > mailto: smoking@guru-records.com > phone: +49-178-78 52 223 --Apple-Mail-1--197983219 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i love it when I see this kind = of = creativity.

joe

On Jun 7, 2009, at 7:57 AM, Omid Shirazi wrote:

Hi Tom,

here = is a demo of my selfmade audiovisual instrument "vision = one":
http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DcrnYUibe7zs

I have posted it = once on the forum, but it seemed not getting through!
I live = in cologne/germany and have made this instrument = myself

Hope you enjoy,

Omid

audio visual = artist
mailto: smoking@guru-records.com
phone: +49-178-78 52 223
=

= --Apple-Mail-1--197983219-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 7 19:52:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B7BE3BE7C; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 19:52:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=RJeLbd57irPQ17o4+4jn/EtBLE8RCOLMUzwNQ4Es+7vGDYLdMLfbXgIb38lOmNfl; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2F675583A34149898A36A999F70558E7@eluk1> References: <26ba8d120906012111o232615eai215ff3cf3b6348b1@mail.gmail.com> <26ba8d120906061222l55d7bed2x811a545275bc22dd@mail.gmail.com> <2F675583A34149898A36A999F70558E7@eluk1> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 15:43:31 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-967718197==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79f3bf646d2a80d9677551f58474838ac5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.204 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 19:52:20 +0000 (UTC) --============_-967718197==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom, I never saw this... could you give me some more details? -Chuck >=A4 >Hi at last folks, > >Did someone say remote loopage? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Tom Ritchford >To: Loopers-Delight >Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:22 PM >Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers > >Not one of you wants to play!? > >There's at least one full slot left or a couple of shorter ones... > >On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Tom Ritchford=20 ><tom@swirly.com> wrote: > >Hello, Loopers. I'm very happy to announce the=20 >return of openLoop=20 >http://loopny.com/ at the=20 >Jack the Pelican Presents gallery=20 >http://jackthepelicanpresents.com/,=20 >as part of the Northside Arts Festival.=20 >http://www.northsidefestival.com/ > >I'll be starting to loop around 6PM and we'll be going late. > >I'll send the finalized information closer to=20 >the date but I'd also like to call for loopers=20 >who wish to participate in this activity to=20 >contact me! > >There's no pay but there are a gazillion people=20 >and press and I'll be documenting and recording=20 >all of it. > >(In fact, I have all four days suddenly -=20 >Thursday's openLoop, Friday's probably DJs,=20 >Saturday is bands and groups, Sunday's acoustic,=20 >so if you have something entertaining that you'd=20 >like to show off in a gallery, lay it on me.) > >loop on.... > >-- > /t > > > > >-- > /t -- =2E.. http://www.zmix.net --============_-967718197==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers

Tom,

I never saw this... could you give me some more details?

-Chuck

=A4

Hi at last folks,

Did someone say remote loopage?

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Ritchford

To: Loopers-Delight

Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:22 PM

Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers

Not one of you wants to play!?

There's at least one full slot left or a couple of shorter ones...

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com> wrote:

Hello, Loopers. I'm very happy to announce the return of openLoop http://loopny.com/ at the Jack the Pelican Presents gallery http://jackthepelicanpresents.com/, as part of the Northside Arts =46estival. http://www.northsidefestival.com/

I'll be starting to loop around 6PM and we'll be going late.

I'll send the finalized information closer to the date but I'd also like to call for loopers who wish to participate in this activity to contact me!

There's no pay but there are a gazillion people and press and I'll be documenting and recording all of it.

(In fact, I have all four days suddenly - Thursday's openLoop, =46riday's probably DJs, Saturday is bands and groups, Sunday's acoustic, so if you have something entertaining that you'd like to show off in a gallery, lay it on me.)

loop on....

--
    /t

--
    /t

--

...
http://www.zmix.net

--============_-967718197==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 7 20:48:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C291F3BE72; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 20:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ltxQjOOB30HnKT+zwichVeqpWNtrvdfaAUCDARq4XVL5mOULV39GiYQY93xmBVZIGoiy7sqxZhaMB7mT3ce7pHCuMY1w62/PlHQEpeJ4iuKOybYkSeypWf8YMhBuN3WUZ6DOaZ2YRisnqq1dJvrRvRG5DtgHHaJo08TqJsQ2AvA= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: nfO52ewVM1lqxVrHK8P2.50X2XUXnT3LG5bNEXdc4NwcctnGeSStgiFaaHt6N4JILcJKJ..oiWZQ1GvkIM.3dYKJkji9jc2KZ9yiMn3Wy2x3LZ1ijiWNlg5etxuQMcqbE3uGtnc4EyHHNUVpsTM4ghrDQUshSzVr6pU.h0ncXosBFInyO4XKYd2ks3AkDbdh.uA3oqp5hmY3ihxj7b6BYjm43zc00eBo0psVXRvhrFCj4oi4J_y0unEoO0SzhDNZbezmdD.3rcZIlA8my3_jdipeIu1fXuqh9SjJHsidDyjef71Aax38OB_6Ra5zr8yyOvbTSvARTBJwGpIPKXx0W3_Mj0abKF2vdqs- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <26ba8d120906012111o232615eai215ff3cf3b6348b1@mail.gmail.com> <29508517-0F9D-4235-898F-D8D0D8662A5A@guru-records.com> <001601c9e795$46df4330$8fed3547@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 21:48:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C9E7B9.BFEF5930" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <0Td5JD.A.CsF.3eCLKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 20:48:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C9E7B9.BFEF5930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quite an insane controller! Great work! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 6:27 PM Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers Fantasic!! Thank you, Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Omid Shirazi=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 10:57 AM Subject: Re: NYC: the return of openLoop, June 11; call for loopers Hi Tom,=20 here is a demo of my selfmade audiovisual instrument "vision one": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcrnYUibe7zs I have posted it once on the forum, but it seemed not getting = through! I live in cologne/germany and have made this instrument myself Hope you enjoy, Omid audio visual artist mailto: smoking@guru-records.com phone: +49-178-78 52 223 Am 02.06.2009 um 06:11 schrieb Tom Ritchford: Hello, Loopers. I'm very happy to announce the return of openLoop = http://loopny.com/ at the Jack the Pelican Presents gallery = http://jackthepelicanpresents.com/, as part of the Northside Arts = Festival. http://www.northsidefestival.com/ I'll be starting to loop around 6PM and we'll be going late. =20 I'll send the finalized information closer to the date but I'd = also like to call for loopers who wish to participate in this activity = to contact me! There's no pay but there are a gazillion people and press and I'll = be documenting and recording all of it. (In fact, I have all four days suddenly - Thursday's openLoop, = Friday's probably DJs, Saturday is bands and groups, Sunday's acoustic, = so if you have something entertaining that you'd like to show off in a = gallery, lay it on me.) loop on.... --=20 /t -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.55/2160 - Release Date: = 06/07/09 05:53:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C9E7B9.BFEF5930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Quite an insane controller! Great=20 work!

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Jeff=20 Duke

To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20

Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 = 6:27 PM

Subject: Re: NYC: the return of = openLoop,=20 June 11; call for loopers

Fantasic!! Thank you,

Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Omid Shirazi
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20

Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 = 10:57=20 AM

Subject: Re: NYC: the return = of=20 openLoop, June 11; call for loopers

Hi Tom,=20

here is a demo of my selfmade audiovisual instrument "vision=20 one":

http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DcrnYUibe7zs

I have posted it once on the forum, but it seemed not getting=20 through!

I live in cologne/germany and have made this instrument = myself

Hope you enjoy,

Omid

audio visual artist

mailto: smoking@guru-records.com
phone: +49-178-78 52 223

Am 02.06.2009 um 06:11 schrieb Tom Ritchford:

Hello, Loopers. I'm very happy to = announce=20 the return of openLoop http://loopny.com/=20 at the Jack the Pelican Presents gallery http://jackthepelicanpresents= .com/,=20 as part of the Northside Arts Festival. http://www.northsidefestival.c= om/

I'll=20 be starting to loop around 6PM and we'll be going = late. =20

I'll send the finalized information closer to the date but = I'd=20 also like to call for loopers who wish to participate in this = activity to=20 contact me!

There's no pay but there are a gazillion people = and=20 press and I'll be documenting and recording all of it.

(In = fact, I=20 have all four days suddenly - Thursday's openLoop, Friday's = probably DJs,=20 Saturday is bands and groups, Sunday's acoustic, so if you have = something=20 entertaining that you'd like to show off in a gallery, lay it on=20 me.)

loop on....

--
=20 /t

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG = -=20 www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.55/2160 - = Release=20 Date: 06/07/09 05:53:00
------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C9E7B9.BFEF5930-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 7 23:05:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C95D93BE73; Sun, 7 Jun 2009 23:05:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Omid Shirazi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--179223222 Subject: Selfmade AV Loopinginstrument Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 01:05:49 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 23:05:50 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--179223222 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody, lately i sent my latest demo on my selfmade av instrument around, but it seemed not getting through: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crnYUibe7zs&feature=channel_page I am working now about one year with it, but finding still every day new abilities of it:) Hope you enjoy, Omid audio visual artist mailto: smoking@guru-records.com phone: +49-178-78 52 223 --Apple-Mail-1--179223222 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi = everybody,

lately i sent my latest demo on my = selfmade av instrument around, but it seemed not getting = through:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcrnYUibe7zs&feature=3Dchannel_= page

I am working now about one year with = it, but finding still every day new abilities of it:)

Hope you = enjoy,

Omid

audio visual artist

mailto: smoking@guru-records.com

phone: +49-178-78 52 223

= --Apple-Mail-1--179223222-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 8 03:06:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A11F33BE77; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 03:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 618 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Jun 2009 03:06:21 UTC Message-Id: <34A03000-5EFA-4E71-8823-0BD88E1F4448@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--165413651 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: Selfmade AV Loopinginstrument Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 19:55:58 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Server-Quench: e644fbb7-53d7-11de-a90b-001f29070be2 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwVVfTALARpo UEhAUlJRHgBuCxwA SBwaTBhxdxtAcWBx ZkJ9XHVZWVt6Oxh4 SkwQXS91ZW9paWId HkNZdgUaJQVOekkX OFdiUXBZZngGZy41 WgZiZzp0ZW0GJn4E Gl5VJ19IV3wGTHYH ShQMGDwjEAUseW0X KBs+K1gTHUAKLl8v NFYnRTpf X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.kestrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1562/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 03:06:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--165413651 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit is that a Repeater in there?? neat! On Jun 7, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Omid Shirazi wrote: > Hi everybody, > > lately i sent my latest demo on my selfmade av instrument around, > but it seemed not getting through: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crnYUibe7zs&feature=channel_page > > I am working now about one year with it, but finding still every day > new abilities of it:) > Hope you enjoy, > Omid > > audio visual artist > mailto: smoking@guru-records.com > phone: +49-178-78 52 223 > --Apple-Mail-1--165413651 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable is that a Repeater in there?? = neat!

On Jun 7, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Omid Shirazi = wrote:

Hi = everybody,

lately i sent my latest demo on my = selfmade av instrument around, but it seemed not getting = through:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcrnYUibe7zs&feature=3Dchannel_= page

I am working now about one year with = it, but finding still every day new abilities of it:)
Hope you = enjoy,
Omid
=

audio visual artist
mailto: smoking@guru-records.com
phone: +49-178-78 52 223
=

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From: smoking@guru-records.com
To:= Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Selfmade AV Loopinginstrum= ent
Date: Mon=2C 8 Jun 2009 01:05:49 +0200

Hi everybody=2C

lately i sent my latest demo on my selfmade av instrument arou= nd=2C but it seemed not getting through:

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I am working now about one year with it=2C but finding still every d= ay new abilities of it:)

Hope you enjoy=2C

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----7195760611a046d4a44c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 8 08:36:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5BBD3BE79; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 08:36:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Rome Loopfest photos Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 10:36:27 +0200 Message-ID: <00c001c9e814$3807e040$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcnoFDanD6wS++9DREme83OGnwX5oQ== X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.180; VDF: 7.1.4.67) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 08:36:31 +0000 (UTC) just created a Flickr group for photos from the loopfest that took place in Rome this Saturday. If you were there please upload your photos too. I've just started uploading so please check in later to see some of my photos. http://www.flickr.com/groups/loopfestrome2009/ -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 8 09:21:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6C183BE72; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 09:21:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=24ceI2NlZWcdLVLRVcKoDaclFQK/xoYVUaBJwIuCQOw=; b=wMvee+oPml1ENymcVGoqXGXmv+i5WsourY1iD4j7gH9ZiDsx5+1fyKLj9ky5JzvaVB vfRTUuH3BG9cuNmm3HifASsmJCIHzAOqJLLytA1fjHKngOU+25yAYJhwpRf2clEuXv+D SAo4Cze66/2n4UzVlsgB+H/E0v6wmlRlIsLa4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=GAdqev6OSUX9hSn5bkZjRI/ruUFzbS8Ir28cFh6CY2zIZ2O6auklpG4xCe+5HKn3js aOJks6QJkkiFK5q32DvGn+0sxxHV5CXAgPlhRkLEWkkTjCpYdbfTWXcVoud7A8i7q1bv 4CYGnWyiLdI6lGUP+zMBj/ZSscOxHHIc0GxsY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References:

From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 11:21:30 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 16360f30e315992e Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0906080221t30714486x7508021cb69127ad@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Selfmade AV Loopinginstrument To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c0ee4a627fb046bd2c51f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 09:21:52 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c0ee4a627fb046bd2c51f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Come on... some explanation Omid... its a repeater, and a AirFX.. what else is in that amazing machine, hows it wired up??? Whats that on the "fretboard" what do the knob do below the repeater... tell all...!! Mark On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:24 AM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > mucho farkin incredible > awesome invention =3DD > > > fro > > > > > > ------------------------------ > From: smoking@guru-records.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Selfmade AV Loopinginstrument > Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 01:05:49 +0200 > > > Hi everybody, > lately i sent my latest demo on my selfmade av instrument around, but it > seemed not getting through: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcrnYUibe7zs&feature=3Dchannel_page > > I am working now about one year with it, but finding still every day new > abilities of it:) > Hope you enjoy, > Omid > > audio visual artist > mailto: smoking@guru-records.com > phone: +49-178-78 52 223 > > > ------------------------------ > Hotmail=AE has ever-growing storage! Don=92t worry about storage limits. = Check > it out. > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --0015174c0ee4a627fb046bd2c51f Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Come on... some explanation Omid... its a repeater, and a AirFX.. what else= is in that amazing machine, hows it wired up??? Whats that on the "fr= etboard" what do the knob do below the repeater... tell all...!!

Mark

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:24 AM, = FRO DIDDLY <= parispro00@hotmail.com> wrote:

mucho farkin incredible
awesome invention =3DD

fro

From: smoking@guru-records.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com
Subject: Selfmade AV Loopinginstrument
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 01:05:49 +0= 200

Hi everybody,

lately i sent my latest demo on my selfmade av instrument around, but it= seemed not getting through:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcrnYUibe7zs&feature=3Dchannel_= page

I am working now about one year with it, = but finding still every day new abilities of it:)
Hope you enjoy,=

Omid

audio visual artist
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<9ab0c76f0906080221t30714486x7508021cb69127ad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 00:42:08 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Selfmade AV Loopinginstrument Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 15:42:15 +0000 (UTC) At 11:21 AM +0200 6/8/09, mark francombe wrote: >Come on... some explanation Omid... its a repeater, and a AirFX.. >what else is in that amazing machine, hows it wired up??? Whats that >on the "fretboard" what do the knob do below the repeater... tell >all...!! My money's not on an AirFX, but rather a cannibalized Alesis Photon X25 controller ( http://www.alesis.com/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/5565/tt/5 ) That would make it easier to use the IR to control the Repeater functions (via MIDI) . Additionally, some of the extra knobs you see on the face of the instrument have the same form factor as the rotary controllers of the X25. And the MIDI functions might help control some of the pedal effects (TC Helicon VoiceLive?) on the floor. Not yet sure about the fretboard thingie, though. Just my $.02. --m. -- _____ "take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than one step..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 8 17:57:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A907E3BE7E; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 17:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CuBQ2X52eye26oACBsxyn+77Fb+8/GEdsrHMX5COeNc=; b=e9mkkL/j/bcb83JCHP9YYI/ZRBf91m55nJshm31Hn35jEPM2qZWLAj141lpo78BgrY U3+HDWwvR4pwdS3o3iWy97BYUi56ZwhsdpQIVRfVaUjRGkaael9cRYL/PfJ3QZQnTMj4 PNEVW/NgT12VwuhnEG00iIZQyX/d4bNhEK880= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=yEJNjzcnNBZiZmjvOb2hGLfG1SmbH4YqjjALvjQu7PG95YAXOxiYXVXaEsfyE8CSav h4sL+9RUZigdP7IWbQ4wgHfI5UP2PWR8BV+mH8+qtYpWtAJN3hyeLjxzoImfDAc9bcNI GLgccEn9w6QesqpGCs6jZXKiUDFa5VKESkQKM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <00c001c9e814$3807e040$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <00c001c9e814$3807e040$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 19:57:04 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906081057h51e9c2f2y4c94ff9f79ed639a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Rome Loopfest photos From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3_9toD.A.RrB.xDVLKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 17:57:05 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > just created a Flickr group for photos from the loopfest that took place in > Rome this Saturday. If you were there please upload your photos too. I've > just started uploading so please check in later to see some of my photos. > http://www.flickr.com/groups/loopfestrome2009/ Ok, I just uploaded a bunch of pictures and videos from my crappy Sony Ericsson. But I'm afraid there is more pasta and cornetti than gear and looping. Some shots from Florence/Firenze as well. I would also like to thank Massimiliano Liverani and Fabio Anile for the great job they did with the two festivals in Florence and Rome! With Sjaaks excellent event in Antwerp that makes three great festivals on a row. Cool! I heard recordings were done and hoping something will appear online. A favorite of mine was Koan Loop Orchestra that played in Firence: big band with lots of looping musicians improvising together. Many others are also my favorites... actually everything was very interesting listening if you ask me. A wonderful experience getting to hear it all! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 8 19:11:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BD0E3BE7E; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 19:11:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=T2/O+zDOkZh2R+5iMXpatEx7kkdKjMTV/96S2kohQ1k=; b=Bqa8HEI+6pkFV9x6xrxbY65wIFB+STyw5J36oJTV4VocqocYVPQZtFeMeXt/HYBvDc pOW+dnKHrEvI3Xcn7D+0skrGIg1mnNkJuEYatFW3AQ6L5d/0KN2QMq5XcJZUuYmFMdFE nh6XSeieA5Dp7eEV4FMtClJppjhq7VSmb9SZ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ahrmvK8g3PMX7nA+ZhTyx8L3s00g8UvGy7aRz1M2/NuGVG/qjRl+cqp6Ii1FoYO+/U wB7swwV1YOnnQ7+HQkhlIV3OF+NYvlbf0FasZKnsVrpAaw8M5JSP77VbAgrGYn1hEYKd 1rca2Ogx1jAHpEVM9AskOsfUVHjVBGSMTbboE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906081057h51e9c2f2y4c94ff9f79ed639a@mail.gmail.com> References: <00c001c9e814$3807e040$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <66f9cc1e0906081057h51e9c2f2y4c94ff9f79ed639a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 15:11:34 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60906081211r4a1a78b5xa2bc5f60798ede53@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Rome Loopfest photos From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b351b87a99046bdb023b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 19:11:37 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b351b87a99046bdb023b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit these are all GREAT moments Michael/Per! I particularly like the 'ice cream' photo whoever that may be. the afterhours pix speak volumes of success as well. thanks for sharing for those like me who can't be there these days though with the advent of doing ustream casts of late, maybe at some point some of us can come in ala KyberUstreamVideoMojo... jim www.ustream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11 --001636c5b351b87a99046bdb023b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

these are all GREAT moments Michael/Per!=A0 I particularly like the &#= 39;ice cream' photo whoever that may be.=A0 the afterhours pix speak vo= lumes of success as well.=A0 thanks for sharing for those like me who can&#= 39;t be there these days though with the advent of doing ustream casts of l= ate, maybe at some point some of us can come in ala KyberUstreamVideoMojo..= .

=A0

jim

www.ust= ream.tv/channel/sunday-morning-at-11

--001636c5b351b87a99046bdb023b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 8 20:44:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53F3E3BE77; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 20:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=+9/pMGVHgQmG51fi+rXtgSrHVZl5KZQdHkrHY+DoTns=; b=Riz+3vzScssaaXZ0vYsphJQA1nxg/DG5pSEecntkf8bLAxABgrgj97oYzEY/HNTvkd aK+mmKcgbrLZ45uZy142+jeqswPx158JMMz12KyvrdYLpNJIQh6blL5A1DGBJr5KjqCH hQwQJ9DmbRD5lOZo3/9NfV9o4K5JlPg10tAk4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=tpRCvpdjwMN2qKzuuL59f7evNluekEMDS1qGBxZmLO6nTw6T1Z8a6OQ4yhB9y0jsvD ny/9a3sPcT0TmSmZIQe60EPVr0kfWDe6fHvR5zN+dtl5jyeWDqpaWno0HhScy16trqV9 nNaqBbk9mHfqfkOMjFtF3Ua9bHwsVbs18qa5E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References:

<9ab0c76f0906080221t30714486x7508021cb69127ad@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 22:43:42 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 066d4c81085f34a0 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0906081343i5882af4an785c103c163b532@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Selfmade AV Loopinginstrument To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bdf2862c7a7046bdc4d42 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 20:44:04 +0000 (UTC) --0015174bdf2862c7a7046bdc4d42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Im still going for AirFX, the surface looks the right size, and... well I recognise th patch... that is filtering the repeater...! m On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Mech wrote: > At 11:21 AM +0200 6/8/09, mark francombe wrote: > >> Come on... some explanation Omid... its a repeater, and a AirFX.. what >> else is in that amazing machine, hows it wired up??? Whats that on the >> "fretboard" what do the knob do below the repeater... tell all...!! >> > > My money's not on an AirFX, but rather a cannibalized Alesis Photon X25 > controller ( http://www.alesis.com/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/5565/tt/5) > > That would make it easier to use the IR to control the Repeater functions > (via MIDI) . Additionally, some of the extra knobs you see on the face of > the instrument have the same form factor as the rotary controllers of the > X25. And the MIDI functions might help control some of the pedal effects > (TC Helicon VoiceLive?) on the floor. > > Not yet sure about the fretboard thingie, though. > > Just my $.02. > > --m. > -- > _____ > "take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than one > step..." > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174bdf2862c7a7046bdc4d42 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im still going for AirFX, the surface looks the right size, and... well I r= ecognise th patch... that is filtering the repeater...!

m

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Mech <mech3@m3ch.net> wro= te:

At 11:21 AM +0200= 6/8/09, mark francombe wrote:

Come on... some explanation Omid... its a repeater, and a AirFX.. what else= is in that amazing machine, hows it wired up??? Whats that on the "fr= etboard" what do the knob do below the repeater... tell all...!!

My money's not on an AirFX, but rather a cannibalized Alesis Photon X25= controller ( http://www.alesis.com/contentmgr/showdetails= .php/id/5565/tt/5 )

That would make it easier to use the IR to control the Repeater functions (= via MIDI) . =A0Additionally, some of the extra knobs you see on the face of= the instrument have the same form factor as the rotary controllers of the = X25. =A0And the MIDI functions might help control some of the pedal effects= (TC Helicon VoiceLive?) on the floor.

Not yet sure about the fretboard thingie, though.

Just my $.02.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--m.
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--0015174bdf2862c7a7046bdc4d42-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 8 20:58:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8357C3BE77; Mon, 8 Jun 2009 20:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'Michael Peters'" , References: <00c001c9e814$3807e040$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: RE: Rome Loopfest photos Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 13:57:58 -0700 Message-ID: <549B7A4E684F4B9981EA15EFB1E6E7BE@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcnodhdXIinJAPpSSxSxX36Vv0ruYQAA9ZAA In-Reply-To: <00c001c9e814$3807e040$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Resent-Message-ID: <7xOTFB.A.UdG.ZtXLKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 20:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for that Michael, it's almost like being there, with the exception of the great music, atmosphere and camaraderie, looks like a great event and it was great to see everyone's faces. Great photos Per, congrats to all. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Michael Peters [mailto:mp@mpeters.de] Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:36 AM To: Loopers Delight Subject: Rome Loopfest photos just created a Flickr group for photos from the loopfest that took place in Rome this Saturday. If you were there please upload your photos too. I've just started uploading so please check in later to see some of my photos. http://www.flickr.com/groups/loopfestrome2009/ -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 04:13:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 846133BE79; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 04:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:53:44 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: 06.20.09 A high energy evening --Doctor T and Dennis Warren's Quantum Trio Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 04:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be doing a high energy show at 119 Gallery in Lowell with Dennis Warren's FMRJE Quantum Trio. Acid, Out, Jazz, Funk, and, of course, Video. at the lovely119 Gallery 119 Chelmsford St Lowell, MA 01851 8:30 PM http://www.119gallery.org/ Culinary note: There is an outstanding Cambodian restaurant next door to the gallery. -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 08:52:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1BDE3BE77; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 08:52:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1244537552; bh=FliHFw2JPFNjAsxu5Kp98fSeAMbA3AFuGxix2+G51lg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=15Hzrpt8yTSzKiPa/6Db8LjkK1zHyLUrEQJSvD5U/6sTn8sh0lkPvYtvPFLwKYYZfBpep/VyfEzX/IYgogi4/65DYj/k0b3TiOk9uR31DiLcz2Ht0it0jk2BB11tDj8iCcJJ1rL2orPS+xXADDJuKmyxXwzS7sy8Y5At96suvkY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VmzERp5VOcIt69A4MTNPtHu1F4fzuV3pXXLfkxej2AQ7d1RysxAS3bF512bpgWQwuR6+emUQQKoadojvu+bFsOuTMuzIN7QsEb+WqLbJGJZY8uvBAqJl/7KGRa9RfX5XY77anO/hSi4HexNxMuDE21WnFGAbk0jSmDOTU1lufGU=; Message-ID: <642817.50714.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 08:52:32 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: LD: Your opinions please - Terratec Axon AX 50 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 08:52:33 +0000 (UTC) for what is worth=0A=0Ahttp://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct07/articles/AxonA= X50USB.htm=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A--- phaslem@wightman= .ca schrieb am Mo, 1.6.2009:=0A=0A> Von: phaslem@wigh= tman.ca =0A> Betreff: Re: LD: Your opinions please - T= erratec Axon AX 50=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: M= ontag, 1. Juni 2009, 14:51=0A> I had a yamaha G50 and was never very=0A> ha= ppy with the tracking. I was using it with a roland GK 2=0A> pickup after s= everal months of playing around with it=0A> finally gave up and sold it off= on ebay. I recently picked=0A> up an axion ax50 and using it with the same= guitar, though I=0A> have since installed a graphtech ghost pickup, and it= is=0A> worlds apart different from my experience with the G50. The=0A> tra= cking is instant and I have had very little adjustments=0A> to make in my p= laying style. I'm running it through Reason 4=0A> and having an absolute bl= ast playing cello and basoon parts=0A> with my guitar.=0A> =0A> I can't mak= e any comments about midi mapping... I still=0A> don't really understand th= e whole midi thing. I like things=0A> that plug in and pretty much work the= way I expect them to.=0A> =0A> regards,=0A> =0A> Paul Haslem=0A> Ontario, = Canada=0A> www.dulcify.ca=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Quoting andy butler = :=0A> =0A> > Ricky Graham wrote:=0A> >> Hello Folks= ,=0A> >> I intend to use it for MIDI mapping=0A> predominantly.=0A> > =0A> = > ?=0A> > =0A> >> I'm not too bothered about sounds with the=0A> software. = Your opinions would be fully appreciated.=0A> >> Best,=0A> >> Ricky=0A> > = =0A> > Axon is the quickest responding guitar to midi=0A> system.=0A> > It'= s optimised for strat with Roland GK type p/u when=0A> using a plectrum. (b= ut for other guitars it's still the=0A> fastest system).=0A> > =0A> > The u= sb possibly makes it a bit faster for soft synth=0A> use.=0A> > =0A> > Apar= t from the usb, it's not that different to the=0A> Yamaha G50, which can be= bought on ebay (=A3103 =A3143 last=0A> two I saw)=0A> > =0A> > Actually, I= should do a comparison with AX100 versus=0A> G50.=0A> > It's conceivable t= he Axon tech got better since G50=0A> days.=0A> > =0A> > andy butler=0A> > = =0A> > =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From mrsestherbaraba.071@msn.com Tue Jun 9 08:53:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 308 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:53:32 UTC Received: from blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.32]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8C23BE6F for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 08:53:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU124-W21 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 9 Jun 2009 01:48:11 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_611dbf39-b3b0-48f3-babd-7154132d631d_" X-Originating-IP: [41.222.192.82] Reply-To: From: mrsesther baraba Subject: My Name Is Mrs Esther Baraba Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 08:48:10 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2009 08:48:11.0203 (UTC) FILETIME=[04C35130:01C9E8DF] To: undisclosed-recipients:; --_611dbf39-b3b0-48f3-babd-7154132d631d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My Name Is Mrs Esther Baraba =20 Permit me to inform you of my desire to introduce to you into this humanita= rians work. I decided to do this after praying over the situation. You shou= ld please consider the transaction on its content and not the fact that you= have not known me before. I need not dwell on how I came by your contact i= nformation because there are many such possibilities these days.I would lik= e to introduce myself as Mrs. Esther Baraba=2Cof Republic of Benin=2Cwidow = to Late Dr. Thomas Baraba (formal Consular of the Benin Embassy in Madrid= =2C Spain. I have been recently diagnose of Cancer of the Pelvics. I am wri= ting to you now from my sick bed here in the hospital. =20 There is $18.5M ((Eighteen Million Five Hundred Thousand United State Doll= ars)) my husband has in an account with the GTB. GUARANTY TRUST BANK (BENIN= ) of which I am the next of kin. With my health condition and because my hu= sband and I have no child=2CI decide to contact you so that I will pass the= right of next of kin to you. I will send to you the documents that covers = the fund with GTB which You will apply to the bank and request for the tran= sfering of the fund to your own bank account. =20 This is on the condition that you will take only 25% of the fund for yourse= lf=2C 5% for any expenses=2C while you will use the remaining 70% for the l= ess privileges people in the society.=20 =20 This is in fulfillment of the last request of my late husband: that a subst= antial part of the fund be used to carter for the less privilege people=2C = If this condition is acceptable to you=2C you should contact me immediately= with your full names and contact information's so that i will have the tru= st to pass the right of next of kin to you. So as soon as i receive your fu= ll names with your full address i will proceed to send you all the document= s covering the fund which you will send to the bank for the release of the = fund to you. I cannot predict what will be my fate by the time the fund will be transfer= red into your account=2C but you should please ensure that the fund is used= as i have described above. I look forward to your immediate response=2C =20 Yours Faithfully=2C Mrs. Esther Baraba.= --_611dbf39-b3b0-48f3-babd-7154132d631d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Permit me to inform you of my desire to introduce to you into = this humanitarians work. I decided to do this after praying over the situat= ion. You should please consider the transaction on its content and not the = fact that you have not known me before. I need not dwell on how I came by y= our contact information because there are many such possibilities these day= s.I would like to introduce myself as Mrs. Esther Baraba=2Cof Republic of B= enin=2Cwidow to Late Dr. Thomas Baraba (formal Consular of= the Benin Embassy in Madrid=2C Spain. I have been recently diagnose of Can= cer of the Pelvics. I am writing to you now from my sick bed here in the ho= spital.

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There is =3B $18.5M ((Eighteen Million Five Hundred Thousa= nd United State Dollars)) my husband has in an account with the GTB. GUARAN= TY TRUST BANK (BENIN) of which I am the next of kin. With my health conditi= on and because my husband and I have no child=2CI decide to contact you so = that I will pass the right of next of kin to you. I will send to you the do= cuments that covers the fund with GTB which You will apply to the bank and = request for the transfering of the fund to your own bank account.<= /DIV>

=3B

This is on the condition that you will take only 25% of the fu= nd for yourself=2C 5% for any expenses=2C while you will use the remaining = 70% for the less privileges people in the society.

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This is in fulfillment of the last request of my late husband:= that a substantial part of the fund be used to carter for the less privile= ge people=2C If this condition is acceptable to you=2C you should contact m= e immediately with your full names and contact information's so that i will= have the trust to pass the right of next of kin to you. So as soon as i re= ceive your full names with your full address i will proceed to send you all= the documents covering the fund which you will send to the bank for the re= lease of the fund to you.

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= --_611dbf39-b3b0-48f3-babd-7154132d631d_-- From mrsestherbaraba.071@msn.com Tue Jun 9 08:53:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 319 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:53:42 UTC Received: from blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.32]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D023BE6F; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 08:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU124-W21 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s21.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 9 Jun 2009 01:48:11 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_611dbf39-b3b0-48f3-babd-7154132d631d_" X-Originating-IP: [41.222.192.82] Reply-To: From: mrsesther baraba Subject: My Name Is Mrs Esther Baraba Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 08:48:10 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2009 08:48:11.0203 (UTC) FILETIME=[04C35130:01C9E8DF] To: undisclosed-recipients:; --_611dbf39-b3b0-48f3-babd-7154132d631d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My Name Is Mrs Esther Baraba =20 Permit me to inform you of my desire to introduce to you into this humanita= rians work. I decided to do this after praying over the situation. You shou= ld please consider the transaction on its content and not the fact that you= have not known me before. I need not dwell on how I came by your contact i= nformation because there are many such possibilities these days.I would lik= e to introduce myself as Mrs. Esther Baraba=2Cof Republic of Benin=2Cwidow = to Late Dr. Thomas Baraba (formal Consular of the Benin Embassy in Madrid= =2C Spain. I have been recently diagnose of Cancer of the Pelvics. I am wri= ting to you now from my sick bed here in the hospital. =20 There is $18.5M ((Eighteen Million Five Hundred Thousand United State Doll= ars)) my husband has in an account with the GTB. GUARANTY TRUST BANK (BENIN= ) of which I am the next of kin. With my health condition and because my hu= sband and I have no child=2CI decide to contact you so that I will pass the= right of next of kin to you. I will send to you the documents that covers = the fund with GTB which You will apply to the bank and request for the tran= sfering of the fund to your own bank account. =20 This is on the condition that you will take only 25% of the fund for yourse= lf=2C 5% for any expenses=2C while you will use the remaining 70% for the l= ess privileges people in the society.=20 =20 This is in fulfillment of the last request of my late husband: that a subst= antial part of the fund be used to carter for the less privilege people=2C = If this condition is acceptable to you=2C you should contact me immediately= with your full names and contact information's so that i will have the tru= st to pass the right of next of kin to you. So as soon as i receive your fu= ll names with your full address i will proceed to send you all the document= s covering the fund which you will send to the bank for the release of the = fund to you. I cannot predict what will be my fate by the time the fund will be transfer= red into your account=2C but you should please ensure that the fund is used= as i have described above. I look forward to your immediate response=2C =20 Yours Faithfully=2C Mrs. Esther Baraba.= --_611dbf39-b3b0-48f3-babd-7154132d631d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My Name Is Mrs Esther Baraba

=3B

Permit me to inform you of my desire to introduce to you into = this humanitarians work. I decided to do this after praying over the situat= ion. You should please consider the transaction on its content and not the = fact that you have not known me before. I need not dwell on how I came by y= our contact information because there are many such possibilities these day= s.I would like to introduce myself as Mrs. Esther Baraba=2Cof Republic of B= enin=2Cwidow to Late Dr. Thomas Baraba (formal Consular of= the Benin Embassy in Madrid=2C Spain. I have been recently diagnose of Can= cer of the Pelvics. I am writing to you now from my sick bed here in the ho= spital.

=3B

There is =3B $18.5M ((Eighteen Million Five Hundred Thousa= nd United State Dollars)) my husband has in an account with the GTB. GUARAN= TY TRUST BANK (BENIN) of which I am the next of kin. With my health conditi= on and because my husband and I have no child=2CI decide to contact you so = that I will pass the right of next of kin to you. I will send to you the do= cuments that covers the fund with GTB which You will apply to the bank and = request for the transfering of the fund to your own bank account.<= /DIV>
=3B

This is on the condition that you will take only 25% of the fu= nd for yourself=2C 5% for any expenses=2C while you will use the remaining = 70% for the less privileges people in the society.

=3B

This is in fulfillment of the last request of my late husband:= that a substantial part of the fund be used to carter for the less privile= ge people=2C If this condition is acceptable to you=2C you should contact m= e immediately with your full names and contact information's so that i will= have the trust to pass the right of next of kin to you. So as soon as i re= ceive your full names with your full address i will proceed to send you all= the documents covering the fund which you will send to the bank for the re= lease of the fund to you.

I cannot predict what will be my fate by the time the fund= will be transferred into your account=2C but you should please ensure that= the fund is used as i have described above.

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= --_611dbf39-b3b0-48f3-babd-7154132d631d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 09:32:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CAA43BE7C; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1244539976; bh=UzJlGsPxnY1RGXLohfbgi4NmzgS5MoCrN5gyNs6r8YI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=6TOXoPt1/mKPJhuamXEQrY0buYBzsARwqlkQODGXyj8ZEHkFGJRJJWXEt/QR3LmkthmmvHYjwkhfiOUP7MZsiQAYOMF+rSPPbzebu3gyZI3DvvkeveaXDZ8tddWdlp1nsO2Wo5biCo3LrB+XAkbUyuj/uvlJKkNR8rDUzr2gCzc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hcGWO/UZm0moAyZiJo97jVm9pAKcNkxZiwSbsRLrO78QyO9P+7rQeosklIXnH9IJl+IwDDvXpGkzyMQ0jUDVM7BHIGSAForTlEmY9VGF8L/lq2Z6Cn2dprtFXAbRpu8359a9IHbBswklEUAWGZKVc2dgy+uL9WiZYS9nRuCEhSY=; Message-ID: <866128.53990.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:32:56 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:32:58 +0000 (UTC) excellent link mark thanx for posting it,so what is your current setup at t= he moment?=0A=0A=0A> =0A> Guitar players didn't fare really well in this sh= owdown:=0A> =0A> http://emusician.com/tutorials/showdown-clubhouse-amp-soft= ware/index.html=0A> =0A> So, will your software rig sound the same as your = current=0A> hardware=0A> rig?=A0 No.=A0 It most definitely won't. Will it= =0A> sound worse?=A0 That's up=0A> to you.=A0=A0=A0In many ways I think my = setup=0A> sounds better than it ever=0A> has.=A0=A0=A0Luckily, most softwar= e comes with a=0A> demo so you can try before=0A> you buy.=0A> =0A=0A=0A=0A= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 09:43:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41AA13BE79; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:43:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1244540592; bh=VNy8jVNXeLlXGNka4/YI5qa3Lh5XYtTdWISC6t96XRY=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=zPohqt5PaesNEfmF42Ypo8XGTP8RSTwh69rb35oIIubtdoW0IcJWtHWZstFY7fAmA nsKWFw7MyefAXFB8zFzYI6jB027+3g7cUQ5MbjI7uR0NcI0teidiar4kltZHKpVsaE x5Z4Sm8rH5bjDdRDYavYdp3ZbjogJhCg161ptTss= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Rome Loopfest photos Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:42:55 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c9e8e6$ab16a580$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcnoFDanD6wS++9DREme83OGnwX5oQAz8QBg In-Reply-To: <00c001c9e814$3807e040$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:43:14 +0000 (UTC) > From: Michael Peters [mailto:mp@mpeters.de] > http://www.flickr.com/groups/loopfestrome2009/ Thx, I've added mine as well and now I'm going to dig out my cell phone ;) Sjaak From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 09:44:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BF573BE7E; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1244540661; bh=cvkw/xT/ClxAGfRY8srHZpzMzodu52laMDVBbTEMxFo=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=2Y9ENl0vug+un57a9iAzYCAAHmhaShla8Cyf44ze6nD3mD1y7OSK+3yk2R/jDRZ0k hYRGIccaKFgn9WbSA9BhiHBR+UBwpjAmlsde7eI3u7dWqtlCEjMMD3JMqslef2OeeF LYS1p30gFOROI5R2qOd9tWqgaXiXqh5CEqqEFeD0= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Antwerp Loopfest - video Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:44:09 +0200 Message-ID: <000101c9e8e6$d76da8e0$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcnjuLNlayDmnMW7QSqwHOVnAU4qwgFLhAvQ In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:44:22 +0000 (UTC) I've added mine as well :) http://www.flickr.com/groups/antwerp_loopfest_2009/ --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 11:06:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B11D63BE7C; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:06:41 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1244545199; bh=qETHu42y1bw9NYe8QETZ/TfOuRzJRE0Zn2uUrGdsqNw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sLyqIf1+JBgpEJ7kNcbXQf1U4YM4FMpVBhjvRHQA4cAnAZncQvEopL9S/gjypgWZdDKmlKg5If05nPzg9q7YLYea9xgRGmDa+XUUkvlqzxWlIDosmmI19oV2WTVmIjRhkLFvydhkFULfFSOdUt8+oa7zoPdFoBBUV2JsM4xrxa8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WEO0wT0IozXUgUDX+9H5MQOa68W7YlPx7clbmILwBjqg9a+3hJxJCJ4iK3Kr8fS8AJnJ9did1NcTwAgKmG9kcx08mkfIYxVpJZsHD9nS5c8unh6pZaC0Q5A+hY0rqACcvgSFk51MZE77r4SvNn87fU/9c9An81lKB8t6Bf1+2O0=; Message-ID: <806688.85255.qm@web38102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: dbMv5qwVM1lSWMifK5IVVpicctMFXPOrx9HGkS.cvFBlXUKxJs6gs11eN1rahDvFbTr3y9hq.hHz8GHtA7Iwv5X_s20PKDPc2y.rTh3TzkalQ02fJ9Puns6cBdUyu5Q.TgzHL_TiOfyqE_Rz7CAmO8ASw2e3Jx0QMaILsDXYQRJu1xynH.4SJZf51AdrAFIP5Dd_G__UCdrS9B01QlvUqjMiyfMA3_94GOSXA81gtfJKsTBhGyWArGeBKFTmuig3vj_9k.zKx_YLuQBUxsJmq1E3xacCYqAHwCSsyd9GFgos.TETYsVZrx0Xbnl.bpH0j1QEg6AixOea_wQ_2D0w X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.12 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 03:59:59 -0700 (PDT) From: AKIM TRIEBSCH Subject: RE: Antwerp Loopfest - video To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1487171237-1244545199=:85255" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:06:41 +0000 (UTC) --0-1487171237-1244545199=:85255 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sjaak, How are you doing? =A0Looks like the Rome and Florence festivals were lots = of fun! =A0The gelato in Italy is great don't you think ;-)? =A0Your email = says something about video but I couldn't find any? =A0Is there any video a= vailable yet? Also, I spoke to UFO and he would rather recieve cash. =A0Is it possible fo= r us to get together next time I am in Antwerp? =A0Or if you are coming to = Brussels let me know. =A0Actually I am not scheduled to play in Antwerp unt= il July 24th...so that is a while a way. =A0I am sorry to play the middle m= an here. =A0I am just trying to help UFO. =A0But perhaps you can work it ou= t with him and just mail the money to him. let me know about the video. =A0THanks. =A0Talk soon, Akim From: Sjaak Subject: RE: Antwerp Loopfest - video To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 2:44 AM I've added mine as well :) http://www.flickr.com/groups/antwerp_loopfest_2009/ ---=20 Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ =0A=0A=0A --0-1487171237-1244545199=:85255 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Sjaak,

How are you doin= g? =A0Looks like the Rome and Florence festivals were lots of fun! =A0The g= elato in Italy is great don't you think ;-)? =A0Your email says something a= bout video but I couldn't find any? =A0Is there any video available yet?

Also, I spoke to UFO and he would rather recieve cas= h. =A0Is it possible for us to get together next time I am in Antwerp? =A0O= r if you are coming to Brussels let me know. =A0Actually I am not scheduled= to play in Antwerp until July 24th...so that is a while a way. =A0I am sor= ry to play the middle man here. =A0I am just trying to help UFO. =A0But per= haps you can work it out with him and just mail the money to him.

let me know about the video. =A0THanks. =A0Talk soon,
=

Akim

From: Sjaak <tcplugin@s= carlet.be>
Subject: RE: Antwerp Loopfest - video
To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 2:44 AM

I've added mine as well :)
http://www.flickr= .com/groups/antwerp_loopfest_2009/

---
Sjaak
http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=

=0A=0A=0A= =0A --0-1487171237-1244545199=:85255-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 11:14:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BB243BE7F; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KyF57569tCU66iNFSK+yQ12/Xf0SLLuPlob8oeDVyXg=; b=Qzd/9s8Fo+ZI0wYOVKcdPfLjt1yijkkT9Ax7k7zIK8sR6uSSJqtpQE8T1eOF9VQZDt z1OxpdJkXS69sRLQq4O2XPZloimd7jRiRrFqwuaaUsHvCJfjq4r50FJ0+A+Ite/NMRAy NMo0UsE/uhRnMx9m2t6m3ZzYy5+m75LfmmcP8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=cBu7mVSDKSlo/AgsKer1IQi2xJoHicpj567oSmTX5uwxgxyMlgB0E6GYhstM7b20jp sWb/QP7mrppgHPVyCnyXZC+jY94atQThIyJQUWYJKgpXDvQf9pEgrY2mXQpeVIBIkYOV EHKeOxhpDocI8yNqzHlh8WwXLqonVBO3zIsd4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <000101c9e8e6$d76da8e0$020313ac@PIPO> References: <000101c9e8e6$d76da8e0$020313ac@PIPO> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:14:17 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 66c571c42cb2b6a6 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest - video From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4AEdH.A.IyF.KQkLKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Does anyone know who the guy was who was sat at the front taking pictures of all the performers? He took quite a lot - you could see his auto-focus illuminator lighting up the performers red all the time :) cheers, os. 2009/6/9 Sjaak : > > I've added mine as well :) > http://www.flickr.com/groups/antwerp_loopfest_2009/ > > --- > Sjaak > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 11:59:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C945D3BE7C; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1244548740; bh=dCkE7+nT86NeICf4xUmFKII94sHiV/91nBxGKZBIujc=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=HcaYQy2sLSilEQeKNwbXeELAPeYZeBApVf30wHnMowosYQfdSw9dJVVKy9Gocl/Yc gQge7qV7LRSjcv3qxrmglz/mIbT0rxVdCthZgIaeE6jtfipYIHxakhoLpDMRx+4chA iWPEL6CVzb4hRhxUxHAdG0m3ShAaT3EWKpKF23qY= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Antwerp Loopfest - video Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:58:35 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c9e8f9$9eea5d70$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acno93ErCA2Fh3LZTLmD2oAjMYyL5QAAczQg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Hi Os, Could have been Hugo, the guitarist of my band. I got a USB stick with photos from the festival. I'll upload them asap. Btw: the Little Spacy plugin rocks! I used it even more in Firenze and rome and it sounds great :) Cherio Sjaak --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 11:59:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4B263BE80; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:59:56 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20090609115956.155840@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: OT: Firewire is back on MacBook 13"! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19fvcwxy+JfjQdw7PSvsohQoVdKDYgObZvnZQ/F9E 9bOcQ2KC8AAf4qR8lNh1G7KXJb3AtrlCMsWQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: jjQbIotWZDIrKMcogWc2kiV5emhmY4HC X-FuHaFi: 0.63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Hello Mac-Loopers I'm very pleased to see that Firewire is back on the 13 inch MacBook: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs-13inch.html They kind of relaunched the metal MacBook 13" as a MacBookPro. It's a little bit more pricey - but Firewire 800 is sweet (+ SD slot also handy). So, the question now is: stick to Firewire or transition to something like Fireface UC (http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_fireface_uc.php) with USB in the near future... - or skip another generation while looping on my RC50 :) best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 12:05:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F3B43BE87; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:05:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NxekYRN/PnUxGWg58dCLta2l1EO1fKZZrUghpUMv2CA=; b=BIMUWHuYxE9HJ7QgjgVrrICcgIVJaQ3RyQVMcfwJltYV6R/XETyAZBARlMT3btPxme +gd399YCVPmMMeHug94NlhEqo0zAMZKHCl6M5ZK32G6sX9d38DpeFYJ3Yeqpgbo06Am0 RDlhlertMJ0koq3RvBM8D8bvWgx1tIN4RWfUc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xvF0+z86lLon/nQmVBxnUgd+riVzU4fdI1tFMcmh0X8bbobS2vi4N2fguKkr08K0/1 nhKPc+Bi/31d1H+tIb6tYtScx0Pyqh8zJtxZAOByC0o7t9FKnXFA/BtydfgJQgukzGsi 5k0Dnu0KJS43tAhN0G36ssqXAnLnrE+UKWtS0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000001c9e8f9$9eea5d70$020313ac@PIPO> References: <000001c9e8f9$9eea5d70$020313ac@PIPO> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 14:05:24 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906090505v4d0efc75idca488095e227716@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest - video From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:05:25 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Sjaak wrote: > Btw: the Little Spacy plugin rocks! I used it even more in Firenze and rome > and it sounds great :) Sounded great, Sjaak! I used Expert Sleeper's Cross FAde Loop Synth a lot both in Florence and Rome. And at recordings with Fabio Anile. That's a sort of plug-in with three loopers/samplers that can go also in reverse and at different rates/speed. "One note - an orchestra!" Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 12:31:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEDC33BE7E; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IbrS1541rk7bRrByn/n0Cffi9aSiJuXbNZeaQkBeI1I=; b=MKjMqw9Qs4ou9111rghFo/J17TQGOK5wm7qORDaWfqrSZMQHh8IEN+fSVgRhK596kW qUf0qaCDbgS21o+7rjd1MKrZYTqSo4dxFhKy1sk4RZEr0BCNvYXo0SqOpsDNqDwk35AJ OlGT9JmVnif1nSg59h+ryQrWNIu7axL8L7zxs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=aRWDx6nPj67tzYMI2w4tahYQBhiTyRyWmsyPCGE0kttmmMgQHBGM8q2BPkqcl9Zm1B rT3+o4WDonI43eLdfmnsp2DhwgeqWZCo7n1FcMi98J30GVjQLx0pTrkBtDW1szlCjeIg TO3pkB/dNMyWTdedRYmhMmbhKezwVlBbLRmNs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906090505v4d0efc75idca488095e227716@mail.gmail.com> References: <000001c9e8f9$9eea5d70$020313ac@PIPO> <66f9cc1e0906090505v4d0efc75idca488095e227716@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:31:52 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 87e1f4d3633d573a Message-ID: Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest - video From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/91999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the fan mail! :) Michael Peters was using Crossfade Loop Synth in Antwerp, as a live sampler rather than as a delay, which was interesting to hear. Looking forward to the video/recordings so I can listen back to exactly what he did. cheers, os. 2009/6/9 Per Boysen : > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Sjaak wrote: >> Btw: the Little Spacy plugin rocks! I used it even more in Firenze and rome >> and it sounds great :) > > Sounded great, Sjaak! > > I used Expert Sleeper's Cross FAde Loop Synth a lot both in Florence > and Rome. And at recordings with Fabio Anile. That's a sort of plug-in > with three loopers/samplers that can go also in reverse and at > different rates/speed. "One note - an orchestra!" > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 12:45:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3435A3BE7C; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <79b2l8$7np705@relay.skynet.be> X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAHf1LUpXQOyN/2dsb2JhbACBT9FABQ X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:45:21 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: microphonics Subject: RE: Antwerp Loopfest - video In-Reply-To: <000101c9e8e6$d76da8e0$020313ac@PIPO> References: <000101c9e8e6$d76da8e0$020313ac@PIPO> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Don't see any new photo's there ? Curious to see new pics... Dirk. At 11:44 9/06/2009, you wrote: >I've added mine as well :) >http://www.flickr.com/groups/antwerp_loopfest_2009/ > >--- >Sjaak >http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ www.myspace.com/mymicrophonics www.microphonics.be From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 13:36:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C25B23BE73; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest - video Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 09:35:32 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.136 In-Reply-To: <000101c9e8e6$d76da8e0$020313ac@PIPO> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CBB71E4BAEEDCA_370_1A49_FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42952-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CBB71E4B9E3D5B-370-C95@FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: <7lHNlC.A.NSB.AVmLKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:36:00 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CBB71E4BAEEDCA_370_1A49_FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" great pix.....i can almost hear the "boops and beeps"!.....:)m http://www.flickr.com/groups/antwerp_loopfest_2009/ ----------MB_8CBB71E4BAEEDCA_370_1A49_FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
great pix.....i can almost hear the "boops and beeps"!.....:)m

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----------MB_8CBB71E4BAEEDCA_370_1A49_FWM-M37.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 15:01:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7C8D3BE72; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 15:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fqlaJJcvCfqGpN61g9FoMNowb1qFRYce8qHDvIxjUg4=; b=Meg5nFqQV7LU/WbXiOBnLAqtYg0hkt/d+jpEZjB/R+pnRDSTHwOyUkh1iR1Y7tGBeh YGtIkbsEZzirDmVssSmc8IWKtMkLVLpKVsx1G8ew6rGMWIHwG07N+t8oKlRlgN7AbGvC qr//RWDK4mDwrffI4aevhl9BKNLVAXt9LweIU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IOGR29A2vqz+QaP1xwFTOxHsZtmlB0UY6BD+NE6c6zK6hwFlEVLOU5dhRh3T0QEoVw y1+A1SlBygph0CUa+uN+KTXzU3c6BUlwTLB9O8O8DzXlCYBDmRhCYR358z1tYwVxoq/X M/aUPaCUDTpz07TaZ4xALFSD+g+1GjvziXzEE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <866128.53990.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <866128.53990.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 08:01:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: thinking about moving from rack to laptop...advice please! From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 15:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Well, I'm practically lying in a vat of pink goo with wires hooked up directly to my brain. ;) I'm still using my old Steinberger and that goes directly into a MOTU 828 Firewire interface. That feeds Ableton Live 8 running on a Toshiba Satellite laptop (along with a G&L Skyhawk/Vox Tonelab, Steinberger bass, Tenori-On, Roland Handsonic, Roland SonicCell and a DSI MoPHo. The synths usually don't get further processing, but the guitars go though some flavor of Amplitube 2. I love it. You just have to download the demos and try them. I spent a month trying all the commercial modeling programs but none can touch the Amplitube IMO. I did end up getting Guitar Rig 3 as well, but only for it's effects. The amps themselves are mostly a joke, but a few sound OK. I had the chance to get it for $99 so I figured what the hell. It's awesome for crazy effects. Speaking of effects, a friend at Line 6 got me the POD Farm bundle and that's also great for effects and it's synth models are the best. The other effects are too numerous to mention but maybe later at work if I get a break I'll try to think of some of my favorites. Anyway, along side of the audio tracks I'll run some softsynths. The outputs all get routed to one or two sends containing Mobius (always) and another looper including Augustus Loop, Angstrolooper and Ableton's Looper. After the second looper I sometime run some crazy effect like dBlue's Glitch. All of this gets controlled by a Novation Remote SL, Native Instruments Kore 2, two Behringer FCB1010s and a IK Multimedia Stealthpedal. Gotta get going... more later... On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:32 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > > excellent link mark thanx for posting it,so what is your current setup at= the moment? > > >> >> Guitar players didn't fare really well in this showdown: >> >> http://emusician.com/tutorials/showdown-clubhouse-amp-software/index.htm= l >> >> So, will your software rig sound the same as your current >> hardware >> rig?=A0 No.=A0 It most definitely won't. Will it >> sound worse?=A0 That's up >> to you.=A0=A0=A0In many ways I think my setup >> sounds better than it ever >> has.=A0=A0=A0Luckily, most software comes with a >> demo so you can try before >> you buy. >> > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 17:34:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CEE43BE73; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lSZUvFpWTfGcXGJylOb+4PD0jwYJhK56WYorUNA5/+E=; b=o8r3tgHvieShgvvmb58NJenhdlGsay4s6MeFUEDP3ImLTylSBzCkHhQN5y/oVJwnim NHwyjndK6H0UMxXi5vxe2aqb12xM14wOt/sN0f4VRiUBHxNwomJxbewkf8z5HNJ/lHel 6+HUXzZ22DCrOfAnBFLOjGzUOF+DlGtPTd9oQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=S4sFlseM8r2nGJS8akHGSRXpLo/U9UwIsSxLWtMwQhTfY+Gi9ZWa00YKAOH3fChN3G xlniUAGUbji5LGMjQaTc4NmS+J31CbpGOmVnRVzejrkaWc/MobIasYY9C9O17c+TcJ2F FtE+6yo0AWEo3sG+xbu9HBUIrBzrLEE83Emj0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 18:34:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Bidule question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f44fb4e8dbb0046bedc4f0 Resent-Message-ID: <8sea5D.A.VEH.f0pLKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:34:23 +0000 (UTC) --001485f44fb4e8dbb0046bedc4f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit chaps - been playing around with Bidule now for a while and getting some nice results. one question though...i've tried dropping in some plugins like replicant, automaton and supatrigga and they don't "run". i'm syncing to midi clock using the "midi clock to sync" bidule, which works fine for delay plugins etc, but these other plugins seem to require some sort of start and stop messages from the host. reaktor is fine, because it has the little play and stop buttons at the top of the gui, but is there a bidule i can add to make these other plugins run? cheers! sim --001485f44fb4e8dbb0046bedc4f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable chaps - been playing around with Bidule now for a while and getting some ni= ce results. one question though...i've tried dropping in some plugins l= ike replicant, automaton and supatrigga and they don't "run".= i'm syncing to midi clock using the "midi clock to sync" bid= ule, which works fine for delay plugins etc, but these other plugins seem t= o require some sort of start and stop messages from the host. reaktor is fi= ne, because it has the little play and stop buttons at the top of the gui, = but is there a bidule i can add to make these other plugins run?

cheers!

sim
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 19:27:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 276833BE77; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+cHyduNxrGDUQA/NDvMy6jHn8SG078qvCD+hPd6T2/A=; b=D/KDkiO9mMNNr/AkjwnpvI78hOpULbK+g1UcN9jeSsitSv4f5W/ubHIal6U+xRLxrJ He22gp1jzSn3X2qTjIAHdqGubNpnyPAB5l1AXAtipjvJYuBsNT/M9IJLLjc2BEzQgQi4 weSw/0LDGbLpgH+3UElsuTNynHXQqjO/yr+HA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=bQBauKjkFyPqWfxCA6TFtYStDPk1/bBonO+PYHhd5s+RSXXowdTaFOUx8h/uTyOPPM P4sLwV9fVOjKpqAVq1vp4tTLO1VFKqMpClaOCDL+vv4JdZazW/pKY3P/jbAXrGO6suMW tZjab1Az7k+WQ3/dtWkN8RGYPBlHA87pntCM0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 21:27:48 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906091227v23df6659tf72f45bcd97298a8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:27:50 +0000 (UTC) This is to inform you that (specific models of) the Dell Studio series are practically unusable for the stuff we do. The reason are huge DPC latency spikes - on my test system (Studio 1737) in the >3000us range every 5 seconds, which (in the example of Ableton Live) will have audio drop out every five seconds for latency settings below the 25ms (single way) range. The problem has been reported independently of me by RME tech support: http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3873 (they found >8000us spikes on a Studio 1535). They suspected it might be fixable with a BIOS revision, but didn't get any reply whatsoever from Dell support. So basically keep your hands off this series - apart from that, the 1737 is a really beautiful laptop which can be had for a very competitive price currently (until 16th of June) directly from Dell. Buggers they fucked that up. So....any recommendations for a notebook in that tech range? Something like: * Intel P8600 or comparable CPU * 17 inch display * GB LAN and Draft-N WLAN * nice to haves: * onboard TI IEEE 1394 * two harddiscs * card reader fir SDHC and xD Rainer ps: just for comparison - my eight-year-old Toshiba has a DPC latency in the 300us range - my current desktop system, although at no time optimized specifically for that, clocks in at 20us. That's more than two orders of magnitude... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 19:30:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D15C3BE81; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <81E7B04A43684AFB923E06B49B0F8D79@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <7334ca1b0906091227v23df6659tf72f45bcd97298a8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 20:30:28 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Has anyone had any experience with the newer Acer laptops (uk)? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 19:43:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5E023BE7C; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:43:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=waP0my+lqSbYFEbwbNeIGf+9v0QjOl7mNtABzspjTQY=; b=DtZ/pApCCqYlGUCVTvpO3zHTLS8M98BXP+1Ln0DZfaA6xndj1Ec2baW1bmMdKXTz9Q S0gxQiQzm8ZDodyAYbKAv+FB8A8xA7YV1ruwUNH033IIJn+ghMaoyS5sjrvfuRrvgD80 Y9ZloC4TrI4zeVc3xStJin0+sJQSsWhIDMmMU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=f95PSEqfxX9E4G1qEZS4+izPvUMxuMSSo8vNs7PGxs8TUuAVMW2DGJTP/trdjtR4F+ Y0D2I7z2EZLB53M0iOTj7j+lKsVi5xsVF6OeW6isLghQsw6yCaoWk7MQG3z7QcBRmhk4 Izb742gorGrv4ILULGWRBCaia4zki7oHR/YIU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906091040y2491218ege91aedb64e260fa8@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0906091040y2491218ege91aedb64e260fa8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 20:43:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bidule question From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f44fb4e2f624046bef9389 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:43:50 +0000 (UTC) --001485f44fb4e2f624046bef9389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks per, i'll give it a go! On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > For plug-ins that require "some sort of start and stop message" you > may try using the Sync Transport object (found under "Misc"). > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --001485f44fb4e2f624046bef9389 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks per, i'll give it a go!

On Tue= , Jun 9, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
For plug-ins that require "some sort of start and stop message" y= ou
may try using the Sync Transport object (found under "Misc").

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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--001485f44fb4e2f624046bef9389-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 19:46:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 686C33BE71; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:46:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6XIz+Ex4SHjORcA92ofNKYlbVdEYccqL0VrlA/velxs=; b=ISZbjb80uzGyF1od/aU3JhAn4+qvzxPgm3TA75B/cng5CuXg9SgKCIQAs1JxKWv5L8 DVomaODTRfFeoRy+Yl3y630+hR0xXm0CFpjiwYuYZ9LQsBYczC+Ev1xjpGUvbUZFjrcb RD65iUo7ucjOcnERh5GP1IZi0O2McO1e7l4h8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=so5aC9Lmnr1jkoNT/NfStRHeMloiKlMLNNX0PwHyzZQbuq4kluRFXADpsFpgpSROON 7bcW6eubkHYIulpxXoCip6Xcwv85Z9ZR/jytcknPy/n2QtH66Zvwx2ofG7pLMXTqox5j rD+38HK7YAGDNv/b7ZT0kBznKqg5DsBN1bQQg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <81E7B04A43684AFB923E06B49B0F8D79@eluk1> References: <7334ca1b0906091227v23df6659tf72f45bcd97298a8@mail.gmail.com> <81E7B04A43684AFB923E06B49B0F8D79@eluk1> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:46:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:46:23 +0000 (UTC) I don't know what's up with Dell, but this isn't the first time I've heard complaints about their laptops and digital audio. Some models have had weird hum issues that even effected USB audio. I don't use USB, so I'm not sure but my 3 year old Toshiba seems to do fine over Firewire. I've been slobbering over the new HP Touchsmart series but I can't for the life of me find a single person who's hooked on up to a firewire interface and I keep hearing that not all Firewire chipsets do well with audio. On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Has anyone had any experience with the newer Acer laptops (uk)? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 19:57:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 459F73BE7C; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=b0609IrwaMIfX4C38mOTMxPbfe+J5nvbi+NdkRLUhmg=; b=jjfZDnLSiRbzbhkba5LaWyliZS8nZPdcPcTzdt0uqDDRBqR1yg2EnJcIGQtsZ43zJE 5L8BWm5QhvEt6SOnLVpznZbuVduZewyxmORlKBZD8kyWqD06I+moEu0iWyyXY8SIejTG dK4Iq+pdIEICtM0WelWbISKrqCKuRJPoMOWVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NzqG5JgjJqZBSq2EWXRr1PjdEjX+5PWlS/bsXC5wLXQOhW6bJVoVw2mKkACr9RFCyE CFW5csTlvZ9R31qdEG9peQ8Ymw1EIKfbhBr3shEcWYaw492c76kPHxgAVF2O6HX6sTix JtLWCdV7G9TSZl6VkKwqpqcHgsNVWi+ADMbCA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 21:57:03 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906091257o16819218j48eb708d3a13a3c4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:57:05 +0000 (UTC) > Has anyone had any experience with the newer Acer laptops A friend of mine (not audio-conscious, but IT professional and reseller) has them in his shortlist together with Samsung. > and I keep hearing that not all Firewire chipsets do well with audio. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 20:26:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 181543BE79; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 20:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=WiLOi1G7Xqq/7NL2QIdT7ZjW+xaOg/KsklumPsLbh2iCjA9/F+glfNLqBArgBjonKNBN+9RMNsBnZXw0i78vShcZNftyjbSw69hI5Zu03tf1kEniB+uXQ2osEGOs7cjPuFuTCgJKLGeDcvyCwEeZVEiqSKGxwhpdAd0OATAJrFk= ; X-YMail-OSG: lwmQpkgVM1ngMZaN6GREqDnHlE0eVYMagQ_LWJal90BGDr1klTK0_50iekyTJhIZPbEYXxdHojunY0F3EgEJMN1dEUzeuLY45QJ56z1JPJ4IK3W82nk3IJZr90JQXZFR1DDSay7.wA1.kXrJsMTtnp2fkRCFYyyB6hFZNigsps.8ri6GFs10LaZsQmx3a7YMwfiy7CrJOEQA_cXBde210zcRMZ7Mn0yPbZGZa.230awVI_Yuu.SBtWSTwT.KxahLJLu.osJuHMIyBcDVBAN.CXzsL4j3Nz1GUcDejHnImxC2xm13LroiQTs- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--15965450 From: Matt Stevens Subject: GIG SPAM + UStream this sunday Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 21:26:46 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 20:26:49 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--15965450 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hello all I finally have a Sunday off work so this sunday i will be doing a ustream gig at 8pm BST - full info at www.mattstevensguitar.com Also Steve Moyes is doing one at 5.30 so it will be top ustream loop mayhem this weekend!! Jim are you doing one? Thanks Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-3--15965450 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Hello all

I = finally have a Sunday off work so this sunday i will be doing a ustream = gig at 8pm BST - full info at www.mattstevensguitar.com

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= --Apple-Mail-3--15965450-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 20:27:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42D003BE82; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 20:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4WIER4Zuj2lXc3+oVKM3t5F54hgfx3Aq+JV8lEjQnYo=; b=cHevpzM/7NoCDyzUu0iE4s3yW2TQgEIyvBw0oL1ooFwXAyvxhd0AGOb+YzmI3qKELe ZZzewKWi4NXuJ86p6pqit/Yk+Xlr4I4EVHe0OB/BhO196kYjsbSTVk6qTCH70x05JRZO 4xyR3oKOAqc7CGIbehDTQcZzopYc3wcORKGdg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Xae/HNIL8e/periNuZPmHO3gacR3/D4PFy2pHD5EnBSUPCno4SkqzH4BLMB6Q8Wm0T jau7FEaaZoObnTBcCOcxi0rZ+jIFRk4yB0vNkOb/egYE5HiD3uO9ZG94Dmq02ijYLTNA LrOsl99/sb87lcIf2wd6Grt+qM2aLzaAcd1F0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0906091257o16819218j48eb708d3a13a3c4@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0906091257o16819218j48eb708d3a13a3c4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:27:14 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 20:27:15 +0000 (UTC) But what if the manufacturer doesn't state what one they use? Confusing... why can't we all just get along? ;) On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >> Has anyone had any experience with the newer Acer laptops > A friend of mine (not audio-conscious, but IT professional and > reseller) has them in his shortlist together with Samsung. > >> and I keep hearing that not all Firewire chipsets do well with audio. > It's relatively simple. There are two mass-produced IEEE1394 chipsets > - by TI and Ricoh respectivle. The TI is good, the Ricoh is not. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer > > From shopie@localhost.genealogy-help.co.uk Tue Jun 9 20:29:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from localhost.genealogy-help.co.uk (server217-174-240-154.live-servers.net [217.174.240.154]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBC03BE71 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 20:29:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by localhost.genealogy-help.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1066) id 1C3996020A; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 21:17:35 +0100 (BST) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received A Hallmark E-Card! From: hallmark.com Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090609201735.1C3996020A@localhost.genealogy-help.co.uk> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 21:17:35 +0100 (BST)

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 20:54:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 795153BE7C; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 20:54:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1244580854; bh=buXOIfoJh1HqmcPnWxgb5VAbAzO2e4qnaQoGGQTz5+4=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=L4xsHMXK6tT1GKU7gd1NpciQUv6DHKjphC2Npbt46BWGg4HTcY6K/pMX03DyfSGUh 7Vi8wmtUvVl/5YYqs7il7Zjm1w5U3Yj5lC/Ka3KQVWFqe3YbN7da8YFhrxbTXtdhdX cf+LANKrdI84ncqTj/Bp7TYpEVpfHx+ALamDr7bY= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Antwerp Loopfest - video Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 22:53:48 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c9e944$63aa6890$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcnpAFwGFcKu3R+GSmGhhKfwTbsk2AAQ7Jkg In-Reply-To: <806688.85255.qm@web38102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: <0exED.A.hCF.3vsLKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 20:54:15 +0000 (UTC) > From: AKIM TRIEBSCH [mailto:atriebsch@yahoo.com] > Your email says something about video but I couldn't find any? Is there any video available yet? The topic was choosen by someone else, not me :) Anyway, I hope to have mp3's and video's ready by the end of June but it depends on the time we have available. I'll keep you posted via the mailing list. Thanks Sjaak --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 21:00:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D27143BE78; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 21:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lhHhvCELYQ2C5Lwi/D3ndOduTDKIB+L66qt7fEefYf4=; b=HFFOpFymecS7bsO2Xq9t7u4bkSMNak5TV7g5eacETlukjh+FuFdcaXosS50YDxrzpy SJ5Cjo0dgFxQ8Xy0aEbNOECuGYkDBiw2H6E9hLaorvISE2WsktDFYLMhkyFGtW397vDt OqUEwCPfa/+euG519Xd7why1lu9E//kdsCLVE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=jPevYaOscP0qh1KHl7T6YWJNSLv+ORU0SKgt8DvxqlIylGpO5Wa6UC52pzpDZ/jWhl g9l74yGf/rn5JRVT/xyaLJMucBDjhgpxia6yT7YrUlEW/GaMfXvEfODsIdfQqIbAHXfs O7436NiMK1CYNSQCox52frvMEVAraa81/addY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 23:00:06 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906091400h51e8ad5ay877997f768dd9d29@mail.gmail.com> Subject: re: GIG SPAM + UStream this sunday From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 21:00:07 +0000 (UTC) > Also Steve Moyes is doing one at 5.30 so it will be top ustream loop mayhem this weekend!! Jim are you doing one? Yours truly is doing one this Saturday - same time as always, 1600 UTC. See the sig for the link. Best, Rainer --- http://justin.tv/moinlabs http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs http://vimeo.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 21:20:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9D123BE77; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 21:20:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=evB46V6ayrFQScj05ZW6Y1uokSVnN2OcKh44dBUbealAH3sKcuU8Ed27ndP3N6AeqimLV9mQxgUYyQuB+s3N7DOjyMXS5Lj7yF9KB9+tUXAGBFCsJm5FZNhJTn51FlxkF82TxCHX54wSqBMvO3XwZXQt6PpGXa3CudKSG86ogbo= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: utixsbMVM1kyuW26skY7okqXGuYEgBvgO3rixijGKkfoATC.iZSX41_d2wybrC.IT72oJn10gT043uWCSzFrETj1XaZZFhabu2UQI4oOWVhr4.xeBziliHtnUX3GM84jytx0vud.WNv55v0.NfuH91WR2V6vOBpmKMrdHpR_LYJNjaOzJ_DkjktdzDgzohRYMPgSSO5ruZevJASEquASmBreepN93kHYzPuxI27_n7O9GSPZ3.RHn8REwr2l7ntOfUnWm.Dny7MBTS7xil2IYuwxGucxmfvudc2Sfoj0w_Wl_8Q1 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0906091400h51e8ad5ay877997f768dd9d29@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0906091400h51e8ad5ay877997f768dd9d29@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--12733891 Message-Id: <2E4BB738-5129-49B1-A065-1BB80D6B5B5D@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: GIG SPAM + UStream this sunday Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 22:20:38 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 21:20:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--12733891 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed awesome = if i am home from work i shall tune in Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 9 Jun 2009, at 22:00, Rainer Straschill wrote: >> Also Steve Moyes is doing one at 5.30 so it will be top ustream >> loop mayhem this weekend!! Jim are you doing one? > > Yours truly is doing one this Saturday - same time as always, 1600 > UTC. See the sig for the link. > > Best, > > Rainer > > --- > http://justin.tv/moinlabs > http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs > http://vimeo.com/moinlabs > --Apple-Mail-5--12733891 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 awesome =3D if i am home from work i shall tune in

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On 9 Jun 2009, = at 22:00, Rainer Straschill wrote:

Also Steve Moyes is doing one at = 5.30 so it will be top ustream loop mayhem this weekend!! Jim are you = doing one?

Yours truly is doing one this = Saturday - same time as always, 1600
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 9 22:50:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98BA43BE7F; Tue, 9 Jun 2009 22:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.61.114] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: , , Subject: Re: FreeWave: It's all about guitarists Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 16:50:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0139_01C9E922.59A9A620" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2009 22:50:18.0632 (UTC) FILETIME=[A9752080:01C9E954] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 22:50:20 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0139_01C9E922.59A9A620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Last Saturday's FreeWave show is now online for playback. Listen here:=20 http://radio-boise-freewave.blogspot.com/ Saturday, June 6, 1-3pm MST, and it's all about guitarists. Check out = the playlist below and join us on RadioBoise.org to listen. Kris Play List Artist(s): Surrender to the Air Song: And Furthermore Album: Surrender to the air More info Artist(s): Nels Cline And Gregg Bendian Song: Venus Album: Interstellar Space Revisited (The Music of John Coltrane) More info=20 Artist(s): Terje Rypdal Song: Circles Album: Descendre More info=20 Artist(s): John Abercombie Song: Shrubberies Album: In the Moment More info=20 Artist(s): Joe Morris Quartet Song: Coil Album: At the Old Office More info=20 Artist(s): Jim McAuley Song: The Eyelids of Bhudda Album: 2008 Boise Experimental Music Festival More info=20 Artist(s): Pat Metheny and Ornette Coleman Song: Endangered Species Album: Song X=20 More info=20 Artist(s): John McLaughlin Song: The Promise Album: Jazz Jungle=20 More info=20 Kris Hartung info@krispenhartung.com http://www.krispenhartung.com/personal/ 208-724-5603 ------=_NextPart_000_0139_01C9E922.59A9A620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Last Saturday's FreeWave show is now = online for=20 playback. Listen here:

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Saturday, June 6, 1-3pm MST, and it's = all about=20 guitarists. Check out the playlist below and join us on RadioBoise.org = to=20 listen.

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Play List

Artist(s): Surrender to = the=20 Air
Song: And Furthermore
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More=20 info

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Song:=20 Venus
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More info

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Album: In the Moment
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Album: At the Old Office
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Song: The=20 Eyelids of Bhudda
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Song:=20 Endangered Species
Album: Song X
More info

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Song:=20 The Promise
Album: Jazz Jungle
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Kris Hartung
info@krispenhartung.com
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 06:12:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DA163BE7C; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nTfgN02u39kwLZbbxpqHOLgeGJB811bjoIe0udoZGDk=; b=Gw9GW2rNRzv0fCqNrH1zUosjVNuP0AF/4wFvHdHhgLGjrHrLknM6TohJcBPlUKgcAG sU/T1OvDHFHzjmV2sN/badNBtaPJZFZh4xP7xi+N4fI9fCGe7RkAGMIFov+VKrmWFXMk SJ04nNxfxtkg7oelAQFpt7dstUzSwSCT7v4g8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=i5Qy/d2TKUUKDNX2mLiS4ypkwdcAhsjGrPsFja/8IHjowGEyfsMh5or3sp6pNKFAxR jibvHzFt3uLjFGgAVIBlcZ/prWerd3hmukNDTGnEQYzifpk5JEI0ouJ69oqQ8E9p1gNi Evqky1LzekynfCVZy1QBmunC7Z09HYEnklwc8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:12:54 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906092312r6ca7714bg29e7940d5a5d452f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: FreeWave: It's all about guitarists From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Your FreeWave project seems very interesting. Have you been thinking about expanding it into the podcast format as well? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Last Saturday's FreeWave show is now online for playback. Listen here: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 07:27:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E30F3BE71; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:27:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=reRc8UJmoYjkDWdRjchlf6N1NV48+HMYG5UWeSI6SmA=; b=tXCzvIjrM6PKB6cF9nDlcDHm0uz1+HiIukr/py0yDOjS+sGLmbox2F7uWbjRYD/xIf XIufvDt+pBDxp0EehcL4XAN+i13a29LgXL9PnNUk0X7/fusYrCEBSAHqBroyeKCU6sjS lTbQKaXMdHj0g3XMqljuirgRDXlvotz9DD7N4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=e0Mv21Fq4Hi4WRvN0wD3LtXS2eFIQU57vJ+id8Onpz8wDRQ+IeYh/vlJVGlIe4wc3C 0uE8qnyElGnbxv5uqfRtZpzHWFYxkKaIZZK7dVS7dew8S/B3fjn/QPBrYWdsMwz4aDqV S5x5PbQWTeB2DWJ/u/wevCIUZRJIH9lo8kRg0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <000701c9e944$63aa6890$020313ac@PIPO> References: <806688.85255.qm@web38102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000701c9e944$63aa6890$020313ac@PIPO> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:27:17 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7aa4886ea2a93eb9 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest - video From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:27:20 +0000 (UTC) I started this thread, with this video link: http://vimeo.com/4960054 cheers, os. 2009/6/9 Sjaak : >> From: AKIM TRIEBSCH [mailto:atriebsch@yahoo.com] >> Your email says something about video but I couldn't find any? =A0Is the= re > any video available yet? > > The topic was choosen by someone else, not me :) Anyway, I hope to have > mp3's and video's ready by the end of June but it depends on the time we > have available. I'll keep you posted via the mailing list. > > Thanks > Sjaak > --- > Sjaak > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > > > --=20 os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 07:57:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C10DF3BE7C; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 212420471/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.201.83/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.201.83 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AikCACsEL0pPTslT/2dsb2JhbAAIzU6EDAWIbg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,339,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="212420471" Message-ID: <4A2F6A7B.9030505@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:10:35 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications References: <7334ca1b0906091257o16819218j48eb708d3a13a3c4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:57:34 +0000 (UTC) The info appears to be in the Device Manager, on XP at least. Mark Sottilaro wrote: > But what if the manufacturer doesn't state what one they use? > Confusing... why can't we all just get along? ;) > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Rainer > Straschill wrote: >>> Has anyone had any experience with the newer Acer laptops >> A friend of mine (not audio-conscious, but IT professional and >> reseller) has them in his shortlist together with Samsung. >> >>> and I keep hearing that not all Firewire chipsets do well with audio. >> It's relatively simple. There are two mass-produced IEEE1394 chipsets >> - by TI and Ricoh respectivle. The TI is good, the Ricoh is not. >> >> Rainer >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 08:10:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54F013BE79; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AD65xSq9DqS/P3ZF0t2Jy8CYb2ZotKxW/JL68H65pZo=; b=G8gHOgGoUh+VGhsFr3owVFuGcjsw4GOikZOKGkSg025NudxGlOpQ8+04lnM8FE+JsP xJV/arYdZGsfHQL7H/vDqQNqIFCpGXn2pOpmqJIYGXfJumpX9BkhEp1L3dLB0RI/RWxf an4P+4cFyGc1VFyHiMmHQ59CRvLcZU9XUW7Fs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=OjBwiB/8i4F3Qt7F5kloCPgQGvNSt1ucwHC0PMpfY6Xq0eC5KKuzYa/40eypfjBerV vjIGKWZlcCNoLZsz7heOKW+5MIG1NTxp3gPIkcWDaRQE8olcFOPVVJN4WDoP2IzM0pi5 CHiZw6Hz8HzjT/Kno4PdfOUwKLqTLGa4kmwIk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:10:32 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906100110v70b7a907s69423106d700ac54@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Anyone into multi (frequency) band panning? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I was just thinking about the option of slapping a multi frequency band panner on the main looper output (since the Mobius AU doesn't yet support separate track outputs) and was wondering if someone has experimented with this? I have been the object for frequency band limited panning experimentation in a surround live setting once (18 speaker channels in all directions except under the floor), but within my own looping rig I have so far only used the isolation of multiple frequency bands for compressing and EQ purpose and to add less reverb to lower frequencies. Who knows, maybe multi band panning applied to the summed master output is even better than my PC set-up that uses panning on each loop track output? No time for building this now though, hence the interest in hearing about other's experiences. OT but somewhat related: For distortion I have had great experiences from isolation multiple frequency bands - as with Logics Phase Distortion and the plug-in Predatohm from Ohmforce. But this is a different topic, so please change subject line if you want to talk about distortion. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 08:15:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC1823BE84; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:15:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_74a32f08-887b-4f3d-8261-6c7f9e493272_" X-Originating-IP: [99.195.241.119] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 03:14:31 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4A2F6A7B.9030505@tiscali.co.uk> References: <7334ca1b0906091257o16819218j48eb708d3a13a3c4@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F6A7B.9030505@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2009 08:14:31.0668 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B707B40:01C9E9A3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:15:49 +0000 (UTC) --_74a32f08-887b-4f3d-8261-6c7f9e493272_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable not sure how late i am=2C but in concerns to the acer laptops=2C i called a= bout 6 months ago and they did not use TI chipsets in any computers anymore= - in my adventure to find a perfect laptop=2C i bought 2 dells and returned t= hem both - for what its worth the business class model performed much bette= r than the consumer lvl garbage... i ended up wth a macbook pro running bootcamp.... which worked well since m= obius is a very resource friendly program- but from my experience=2C running windows progrms in bootcamp is noticably = slower than an equivenlent machine running windows os i now ditched the mac and built a micro atx PC with a touchscreen monitor -= =3DD....farewell laptop loopers! =3Bo) fro > Date: Wed=2C 10 Jun 2009 09:10:35 +0100 > From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications >=20 > The info appears to be in the Device Manager=2C > on XP at least. >=20 >=20 > Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > But what if the manufacturer doesn't state what one they use? > > Confusing... why can't we all just get along? =3B) > >=20 > > On Tue=2C Jun 9=2C 2009 at 12:57 PM=2C Rainer > > Straschill wrote: > >>> Has anyone had any experience with the newer Acer laptops > >> A friend of mine (not audio-conscious=2C but IT professional and > >> reseller) has them in his shortlist together with Samsung. > >> > >>> and I keep hearing that not all Firewire chipsets do well with audio. > >> It's relatively simple. 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See how. = --_74a32f08-887b-4f3d-8261-6c7f9e493272_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 08:38:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CB0D3BE7F; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 212849470/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.201.83/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.201.83 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AikCAE8NL0pPTslT/2dsb2JhbAAIzUmEDAWIbg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,339,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="212849470" Message-ID: <4A2F740B.3010404@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:51:23 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Anyone into multi (frequency) band panning? References: <66f9cc1e0906100110v70b7a907s69423106d700ac54@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906100110v70b7a907s69423106d700ac54@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > I was just thinking about the option of slapping a multi frequency > band panner on the main looper output (since the Mobius AU doesn't yet > support separate track outputs) and was wondering if someone has > experimented with this? > > No time for building this now though, hence the interest in hearing > about other's experiences. Much easier to do it by simply putting an EQ on each channel. Can work quite well if the response is carefully fitted to the source material, I've managed to pan sax left, trumpet right fairly convincingly using broad (lo-Q) peaks and corresponding troughs. However you do it, disadvantage is that layers with similar freq content will all tend to be panned to the same position, exactly the opposite of setting up a good mix. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 08:43:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7684D3BE80; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:43:53 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:MIME-Version:content-class:From:Subject:Date:Importance:X-Priority:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=x5GPzet1x/NUpcbIVDeDUdGaUr00cgffbjJ2Uw3gnaUG52eMIcjUz/9JoFroKyt7LWKkOOsPb4TLnfBZgm0AygC8MYrOtIX1gdsTqnfZZTCi3OO6m2inwIUEvpDNXdLrveJWMspCizFqQw/haVhjALM0q8C3jy0QJLcZrLPWQFY= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: uvnPyU0VM1lFaU3KemcSb91Bhfj7aTPYHUuY36.mygdRswsp3PDZCh97XAhEzlb20sSws8NU8HdzK3QaE_cqWHGaMcd6.OCCOxHTljyykxd_77uNbhY93eXdrPD4k6i6i2qYYfBKB0iomhTyMhkZxhLjymNb0_LIdubRwlvNt2p93zeZBuCz_mVVRnM6qa_cWvdYYH8r7XTJiHBiIDiyEHUPC.1m6yK9PKwV6STAmyLAphL4b1wE_AUX3OctT_F1JbUP1O9nNqlsjtpyX9Ea.eJCdkOQc9M05C_Bd7Fjiy0i23F1WMgI0cTKBI8qhsC4yOdbarEFZy8- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 content-class: From: Ricky Graham Subject: RE: Anyone into multi (frequency) band panning? Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:36:59 +0100 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Message-Id: <20090610084353.3ECF53BE77@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:43:53 +0000 (UTC) That's facinating, Per. I will be looking into this myself.=20 Ricky=20 -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen Sent: 10 June 2009 09:10 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: Anyone into multi (frequency) band panning? Hi, I was just thinking about the option of slapping a multi frequency band panner on the main looper output (since the Mobius AU doesn't yet support separate track outputs) and was wondering if someone has experimented with this? I have been the object for frequency band limited panning experimentation in a surround live setting once (18 speaker channels in all directions except under the floor), but within my own looping rig I have so far only used the isolation of multiple frequency bands for compressing and EQ purpose and to add less reverb to lower frequencies. Who knows, maybe multi band panning applied to the summed master output is even better than my PC set-up that uses panning on each loop track output? No time for building this now though, hence the interest in hearing about other's experiences. OT but somewhat related: For distortion I have had great experiences from isolation multiple frequency bands - as with Logics Phase Distortion and the plug-in Predatohm from Ohmforce. But this is a different topic, so please change subject line if you want to talk about distortion. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 08:56:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA3983BE82; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:56:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cGbuO35fsOk4YgkpCurWuBZqC2QCu86zt1D7PRXDxzw=; b=xkLqrpLi17f6YcInJqhBAt5UsMuBfJwkYT2sjLYoRN50A/vSJ9ydQs8NM/xFoX3O9F pdyIJvOGOXn3fCnO3rUynXgKyEh7VToeUQvJUikfvDCCoFVYrlf5KGoWNhCoBS3Z3emu ktUIfr7w0V1fIsXGxrgEYvJfVbsI+Dbcjbj2I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pkuSa6KvRJ4CdPcLTsFbqim7cJcyinjrHXqCI6k5mHffBeWc+XkTcGpi+gkuJlQsUJ sPxYl/9AuaQqr0VvPBhn8Td9Ord9X4MggIZP9v+ZpUeUDbyyOfvU5phzkNazdwLK6anp w93d/F0bGIdmnEFuWI+5R/CE8mdLSwJWWNy/0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A2F740B.3010404@tiscali.co.uk> References: <66f9cc1e0906100110v70b7a907s69423106d700ac54@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F740B.3010404@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:56:16 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906100156k4c010194p64d25c65075a6cca@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Anyone into multi (frequency) band panning? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:56:16 +0000 (UTC) > Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I was just thinking about the option of slapping a multi frequency >> band panner on the main looper output (since the Mobius AU doesn't yet >> support separate track outputs) and was wondering if someone has >> experimented with this? >> >> No time for building this now though, hence the interest in hearing >> about other's experiences. On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:51 AM, andy butler wrote: > Much easier to do it by simply putting an EQ on each channel. Certainly, but that's a different topic since we don't have separate channels in this case. To be specific, this is exactly what I'm intending: 1. Split a signal into a number of parallel paths. 2. In each path, apply a steep EQ to isolate a certain frequency band. 3. In each path, apply dynamic panning ("auto-pan" kind of processing). 4. Sum all paths into a final stereo output. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 09:00:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED7623BE46; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5d8f90e2-8f56-4a2c-a1bf-755838f0fbf8_" X-Originating-IP: [99.195.241.119] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: how do your live mics respond to the PA? Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:00:26 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090610084353.3ECF53BE77@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090610084353.3ECF53BE77@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2009 09:00:26.0812 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5A217C0:01C9E9A9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:00:27 +0000 (UTC) --_5d8f90e2-8f56-4a2c-a1bf-755838f0fbf8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ive yet to play a show=2C but my biggest concern is how big of a monkey wre= nch the house PA will throw into my mix=2C as i always play with headphones= - for those who use microphones=2C do you notice the PA bleeding into your lo= ops at all? i only use 1 mic (vox).... and sometimes use a fairly high gain effect ....= there will be no stage volume as i reference with headphones..... but im w= orried about feedback / looping the PA any suggestions/live experience? any recommendations for a good cardioid mic that rejects slapback from the = PA? thanks=20 fro > From: rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com > Subject: RE: Anyone into multi (frequency) band panning? > Date: Wed=2C 10 Jun 2009 09:36:59 +0100 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > That's facinating=2C Per. I will be looking into this myself.=20 >=20 > Ricky=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Per Boysen > Sent: 10 June 2009 09:10 > To: Loopers-Delight > Subject: Anyone into multi (frequency) band panning? >=20 > Hi=2C >=20 > I was just thinking about the option of slapping a multi frequency > band panner on the main looper output (since the Mobius AU doesn't yet > support separate track outputs) and was wondering if someone has > experimented with this? >=20 > I have been the object for frequency band limited panning > experimentation in a surround live setting once (18 speaker channels > in all directions except under the floor)=2C but within my own looping > rig I have so far only used the isolation of multiple frequency bands > for compressing and EQ purpose and to add less reverb to lower > frequencies. Who knows=2C maybe multi band panning applied to the summed > master output is even better than my PC set-up that uses panning on > each loop track output? >=20 > No time for building this now though=2C hence the interest in hearing > about other's experiences. >=20 > OT but somewhat related: > For distortion I have had great experiences from isolation multiple > frequency bands - as with Logics Phase Distortion and the plug-in > Predatohm from Ohmforce. But this is a different topic=2C so please > change subject line if you want to talk about distortion. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com >=20 >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 SkyDrive=99: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009= --_5d8f90e2-8f56-4a2c-a1bf-755838f0fbf8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Get it on your BlackBerry or iPh= one. = --_5d8f90e2-8f56-4a2c-a1bf-755838f0fbf8_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 09:11:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22DD83BE7C; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HuHX3pIEboH6Jw8IDOXbJHwTR88xHKQO14NDi0yRKkQ=; b=iI0fdEfMH9/AJX+PcCvLrypo1a+RX6NEJtC9D7Ja+b1RWGsn7y3fkFz7UN75uvSG7c v9EEy9QY7kAoBtcMzIPAVIrGIxR8jXLWrUJYYYznaUAew2MFmkT6F1fsfXyuQ/j9ElWI 0WoRFCdA25uMq2FbtC19TbkOnFXaRAaGlPp5A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bDL483oj9x/gMtGWHbj9C+GTtPtBflcCPv0AJeA6Dw0HAAfRA+UJoGoDgXLfNvjGPx 9iVr72L8HW0YJahfA7xzsJ/mYHEomCxDvSOrkrqfPScjQTs7VhVtKAl4qZ/CkHF7EXY5 GLvuyF3hFn6/W01xkyG1wLK6Tdnf7ahWnv7Ic= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20090610084353.3ECF53BE77@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:11:02 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906100211n349090c8k38513b8e894815ed@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: how do your live mics respond to the PA? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:11:03 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:00 AM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > ive yet to play a show, but my biggest concern is how big of a monkey wrench > the house PA will throw into my mix, as i always play with headphones- > for those who use microphones, do you notice the PA bleeding into your loops > at all? Yes. When the input to the mic is open all sound bleed into the looping rig. If stage monitors are used more is bled in. > any suggestions/live experience? Yes. Always keep the mic input closed when not using the mic. This means using a pedal, or equal, to open the mic path only for the notes you sing into it. I found this method very good when I first used it for guitar, playing a Stratocaster with its favorably positioned volume knob that lets you close the input between the notes you play by operating it with the right hand's little finger while using the other fingers to play the strings. So it was natural for me to migrate this live technique into a volume pedal when I began using a mic for flute playing. Some folks prefer an on/off knob on a hand mic, but it's still the same method. > any recommendations for a good cardioid mic that rejects slapback from the > PA? No. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 09:22:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2471E3BE7F; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 911 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:22:15 UTC Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:10:30 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090609-0, 09/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:22:16 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 09:56:33 -0400, you wrote: >>I'm interested in getting a stereo looper with midi sync, preferably a >>pedal, but not happy with those on the market. >Join the club here.=20 Do I get a decoder ring? >I have 3 loopers DL 4, DD 20, and 2880. What they can do=20 >is what I have to focus on not what they can't. From reading here all=20 >loopers (should I say hardware? :)) have some wish lists and "if onlys"=20 >attached. The Boss RC50 is the closest in terms of features except for the lack of ability to increase memory - however reading reviews and threads on it's problems I've all but written it off. The 2880 is really the only other option at the moment short of buying a laptop and software. I'm aware of some other good loopers out there like the 'rang and Looperlative, but they have volatile memory - also at that price I can probably get a second hand laptop and looping software. >>I currently use a EHX SMMH and while it's a lot of fun and good at what >>it does, there's no accurate way to set the tempo other than by tap or >>analogue dial without any BPM readout which means it inevitably drifts >>away from the timing of my other effects. >>Midi sync is very important to me now. >What are you syncing to?=20 Yet to be decided. Most likely a sequencer, or drum machine - if I end up using a laptop for looping, then I'd look into using that instead. I'm on a small budget so I take my time to make sure that when I do spend my money, it's on something that does what I expect it to. >In my experience even if you had a BPM readout on=20 >all loopers and fx they would drift apart. No two clocks are the same.=20 That's very good to know, thank you. =20 It reinforces my decision to use midi sync. The other reason I'd like the BPM readout is so I can set the time within cooee of what the rest of the band are doing - as that can be reasonably approximate, this would suffice. However I'd expect to set the BPM or tap tempo on one device (drum machine/sequencer/laptop/or even a looper) which the rest of my rig would be slaved to. >I have read that the DD 20 is very stable and if you have 2 of them set = the=20 >same they will stay together. I have not tried this however as I only = have=20 >one. Great reviews here: >http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/bossDD20/bossDD20.html >I never use it in looper mode. I use it in delay mode. Up to 23 sec of=20 >stereo delay is a great looper for me. There is a way to double that = time in=20 >one of these reviews. I really want one more of these. That's great to know. I use my SMMH and TC Nova Delay (in stereo) for most of my delay needs, and my Adrenalinn 3 has a stereo delay as well. So right now I'm more interested in a looper with a lot more functionality, and the ability to store and retrieve loops - rather than a delay pedal with a looper, if you see what I mean. I got a bit excited when I first started reading about the Digitech GNX4 - the 8 track recorder/looper alone appeared to worth the value of the entire pedal. However as I read the manual and reviews I became very disappointed. Great features, apparently poor execution. I had hoped the 8 track recorder could be controlled by midi commands. And apparently the audio quality, despite the specs on paper, in practice isn't all that wonderful. Now if there was a looper on the market with the same features as the GNX4's 8 track recorder/looper, but with better audio quality, and more midi features, I'd be very interested indeed. >The DL 4 I mainly use for delay models because there is no feedback = (fade)=20 >on the loop, although this can be simulated with the expression pedal. Okay. I've tried the DL4 and heard it used live regularly, it sounds great. But I was put off by the overwhelming number of reviews consistantly talking about the failing foot switches. With such a feature rich pedal, I didn't like the limit of three save sets combined with no way to turn the dials to get the delay you want, only to have it forgotten as soon as you bypass the effect. >>With the 2880, because it doesn't have tap tempo, and the tempo fader >>doesn't have an LED read out giving an accurate BPM, theres no choice >>for me but to slave it to another midi sync source. >Again what are you syncing to?=20 Yet to be decided. But most likely a sequencer or drum machine. >I can tap in a loop that is pretty accurate for most uses. Oh. Are you saying it has tap tempo? >>I've read reviews saying that if you have the 2880 slaved to a midi >>sync source, after recording the first loop when you immediately >>overdub, the loop playback slows down and speeds up the first time >>through which is simply unacceptable. >This is not my experience. When synced to my Boss DR 670 it stays locked= =20 >tight through all the overdubbing I do.=20 That is fantastic news. >It will drift if I put the 2880 in=20 >reverse while in slave to the Boss. Also if you stop the 2880 with the = DR=20 >670 running then start again it will not be in sync. I have to stop = both=20 >with the DR.=20 Okay, that's good to know - are you able to turn the 2880 faders for the loop down as a work around?=20 >Of course you lose the octave down and fader tempo features in=20 >slave sync.=20 Okay. >I don't know how old that review you read was=20 Harmony Central user reviews. http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Electro-Harmon= ix/2880/10/1 03/26/2008 :For one, as the previous user reports, the external MIDI syncing and :quantization is well, kinda screwy. Just try creating a new loop on :the fly with this thing as a slave device. After you record, the loop :"wooshes" and sounds like it is struggling to find the correct tempo. :Well, scrap that. I will only use this device as a slave MIDI unit if :I prerecord (and obviously, pre-quantize) the length of the loop I :will be using. I won't use it as a master unit, as there is no tap :tempo feature. 01/20/2007 ::Specifically, the device is supposed to synch to an external Midi ::clock (this is not soo unusual or difficult, right ?) and lock loops ::to a beat. Pretty cool if it works. But it doesn't. As soon as you ::stop recording the first track and switch to playback, the recording ::you just made slows way down and does the long swoopy thing (with ::pitch changing, too) until it sort of catches back up a few bars down ::the road. It renders it totally worthless for performance or even ::having fun in your studio. >but there has been=20 >a software update that supposedly fixed some sync issues (but not all). >>Another review said the same >>thing, so you have to stop the 2880 before overdubbing, again >>unacceptable. >Again this is not my experience. I have never had that problem as long = as=20 >the 2880 is in quantize mode. It syncs well as master or slave except = for=20 >when throwing it into reverse while playing/overdubbing. I did do the=20 >software upgrade. That's good news. Can an older pedal be upgraded by USB then? I take it when you say "but not all", you're referring to how it behaves in reverse or stopped and started while the master continues? >I hope others will come forward with more on this.=20 Me too. >There is quite a bit in=20 >the archives if you dig around. I rarely use the 2880 with a sync = source.=20 >Only for practice and such nowdays. I use it as a standalone very long = delay=20 >type looper and tap sync it.=20 How do you tap sync it? >It works good enough for what I do. As I said I have to make the most of= =20 >what they all will do not just look at what they won't do. Unfortunately it means either not being able to do certain things, or spending more money on other loopers to fill the gap. >I hope this helps some. It certainly does. >Storms raging, power is flashing, I had better go. I love Florida in the= =20 >rainy season! >Jeff Whoa! Thanks again, -- G. >----- Original Message -----=20 >From: "G" >To: >Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:07 AM >Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices) > > >Hi Jeff >I'm interested in getting a stereo looper with midi sync, preferably a >pedal, but not happy with those on the market. > >I currently use a EHX SMMH and while it's a lot of fun and good at what >it does, there's no accurate way to set the tempo other than by tap or >analogue dial without any BPM readout which means it inevitably drifts >away from the timing of my other effects. >Midi sync is very important to me now. > >With the 2880, because it doesn't have tap tempo, and the tempo fader >doesn't have an LED read out giving an accurate BPM, theres no choice >for me but to slave it to another midi sync source. >I've read reviews saying that if you have the 2880 slaved to a midi >sync source, after recording the first loop when you immediately >overdub, the loop playback slows down and speeds up the first time >through which is simply unacceptable. Another review said the same >thing, so you have to stop the 2880 before overdubbing, again >unacceptable. >What's your experience of the 2880 midi sync slaved? >Thanks in advance. >-- G. > >>To: >>Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices) >>From: "Jeff Duke" >>Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:04:13 -0400 >> >>The 2880 even with it's limitations is one looper I have never regreted >>getting. What it can do far outweighs what it can't. >> >>Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 09:32:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10EDC3BE80; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:32:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 209596226/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.201.83/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.201.83 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AikCADIaL0pPTslT/2dsb2JhbAAIzUmEDAWIbg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,339,1241391600"; d="scan'208";a="209596226" Message-ID: <4A2F80A2.50001@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:45:06 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Anyone into multi (frequency) band panning? References: <66f9cc1e0906100110v70b7a907s69423106d700ac54@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F740B.3010404@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0906100156k4c010194p64d25c65075a6cca@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906100156k4c010194p64d25c65075a6cca@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:32:05 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: >> Per Boysen wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was just thinking about the option of slapping a multi frequency >>> band panner on the main looper output (since the Mobius AU doesn't yet >>> support separate track outputs) and was wondering if someone has >>> experimented with this? >>> >>> No time for building this now though, hence the interest in hearing >>> about other's experiences. > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:51 AM, andy butler wrote: >> Much easier to do it by simply putting an EQ on each channel. > > Certainly, but that's a different topic since we don't have separate > channels in this case. oops, sorry, first split mono into 2 identical channels hard panned left and right. Then apply complimentary filters to each >To be specific, this is exactly what I'm > intending: > > 1. Split a signal into a number of parallel paths. > 2. In each path, apply a steep EQ to isolate a certain frequency band. > 3. In each path, apply dynamic panning ("auto-pan" kind of processing). > 4. Sum all paths into a final stereo output. yep, understood. just using 2 EQs is equivalent. Could use graphic equalizer, or parametric peak/shelf Just easier on proc usage. Turning up a peak filter on the left of the stereo mix while turning the same down on a the right is exactly equivalent to splitting out that frequency range and panning it somewhat left. Another option would be to put a phase fx with 100% wet effect onto one side of the stereo mix. That works really well. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 09:59:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3A893BE80; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gkPdWKy2yU9dhGnq0bHDn/2Te4yObZwq4h+5JX//MI0=; b=mFWZ+QIinwb6of/7uGQ1yq41xVaVayP2CqkVLlE3gZSv9bIt96QgdFbA7FaFMS1goj 4JHtemDegFEp1kVNQ7mtUBxaH9Wuqo21T0L/DtYupmQQYOWBkghjktF3L29ha+XcUHsv kexCXR/VAg2QHJbq7rr2UwgxAOgc8Qwb7S6k4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PjdyoQpPTbo46u7olW/psmKoB84TMKbamvYI3o3xiciSvoIBXAaXxI4AJ6g9yRijKH rfUV8FG4GdEVOHW1TaZJyA4tVoCWpv0auIsN2GbmJ3nuZ1EeMDzJLX3XRnRBgCxtR785 fM5fgdpwUX1JzYvDrUKEYu0DpbbYg/CWpfne8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A2F80A2.50001@tiscali.co.uk> References: <66f9cc1e0906100110v70b7a907s69423106d700ac54@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F740B.3010404@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0906100156k4c010194p64d25c65075a6cca@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F80A2.50001@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:59:09 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906100259n6b56005bt244b405023c36943@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Anyone into multi (frequency) band panning? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:59:10 +0000 (UTC) >> To be specific, this is exactly what I'm >> intending: >> >> 1. Split a signal into a number of parallel paths. >> 2. In each path, apply a steep EQ to isolate a certain frequency band. >> 3. In each path, apply dynamic panning ("auto-pan" kind of processing). >> 4. Sum all paths into a final stereo output. Sorry, there's more.... I may want to use three or four frequency bands to apply different dynamic panning to each band. I will not only use non tempo related panning rates but also "presets" of particular beat-synced rhythms that use three or four patterns in combination. I was just wondering if someone has tried this with looping? (yes, there are plug-ins that do this but I want to build the processing in a multi channel routing setup in order to make my own "presets"). Anyway, I'll try this out in a couple of weeks. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 10:11:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7766B3BE78; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:11:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0w2d+yrZL2Va+daAWcJ9aW82Y45PJNj1HxbMMVo1gAM=; b=an/vI64l6XIYx7OjAjyQKSUxJk7lObxC4M53h/ziuW13HCtCnbiwkfhNIw7cYusAoj XF4GgNbMTfj/f/ik5q9qedK6jecoN9WJEOtwjGtHpYiTc3IzrubjgivCF2yQWwOz/Q51 cp7mq9cWN2gWfm3XqPViWsOhpoDiRtS3dzVng= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=YUyXlGKZthaRgM7CSVzJGEEWqDuaEVMuXPO53m04d/IqmOCDO/+7TA7OJ+C/qqEeiw nW6Dw9fwHsv+ZllCenmJq8W9BwYe3sCEI1tfFAcHOhwHaYDITUF1LdMdN+FX9QNAjAqv wQSBRkFmnKZDnmshKZRitFOtCv8MaCSiq9hEo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:10:59 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906100310v7d326bbbl6f133a078fbb3c74@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: Weird, weird drum machine from Sweden From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:11:00 +0000 (UTC) I know the drum machine used in this video is Swedish but what's the language of the web site? I mean, where in the world are folks using such a weird drum machine? http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 11:09:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B90A83BE77; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=89Eec4JpCzXOQNbNYq78qqY5DwqcxeSa/DOTbjjToH0=; b=XtuY58sHY7TQ1saEvdgKLBg+7STalYsmB3EZx1vfYGoFkXnrLisubyeZkCSWAzVucx P80D5OD+4OEL32GVP4kaBZTQ3PUKGevApctTtfRUjZFMkr4G6zmVg32vAK17WELT44ya 16yU6jJFakbsiR7apQXUIOWH+Fkw9547v0z6Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=quAHgjSTnOcCHAP3xsKOvQNoocI/YVnRjFgpLeUF83+nq6tUT1m94An4JxLi0Cys73 4zVkvTcolv2llV0msw4OB+3WcNWQ1ySvOcRLKl3TXMzr+nqC6xjP/D/v/QMLgMy3r9Gr FtxPQtFHoG23B9PqnxxrEFGx2QYBl4+RwFeE4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:09:10 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906100409x765945e8qc2142b8094945af4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: Weird, weird drum machine from Sweden From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4JrwVB.A.sYE.YR5LKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:09:12 +0000 (UTC) > I mean, where in the world are folks using such a weird drum machine? Playing Schliemann here at the moment: The site says "A L=E1batlani Blues fesztiv=E1lra megh=EDvjuk a Volvo trakes= zt is." And if you enter "Labatlan" into google, you get this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A1batlan Hungary. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 13:00:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A9D73BE79; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1244638849; bh=BNHlMotGMNITX4TOrZCNVpzS/D67Qpj97+Y+F9mya8I=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=CYxrB09zUkpvIyf9N37xMBkMF0bcjZ+RWcMgVL3lrI2L0lUFabFc7pHfR1cbNKUXo rpct5ZjIUnPNvMb+WA6gxjCQQkOGZjAsJjyJb9r1R2u9HdkhomWtH631K5QYcgWtgd oUoWLCAPyvgQ/m4RNSWABH8sHY81/DKuDtP9dBwA= Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:00:43 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest - video MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <029cC.A.svG.C66LKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:00:50 +0000 (UTC) > From: expertsleepers@googlemail.com > Thanks for the fan mail! :) > > Michael Peters was using Crossfade Loop Synth in Antwerp, as > a live sampler rather than as a delay, which was interesting > to hear. Looking forward to the video/recordings so I can > listen back to exactly what he did. Hi Os, I've heard what both Michael and Per did with Crossfade Loop Synth in Ita= ly...really really good. And it's indeed interesting to hear how other mu= sicians use certain effects. Perhaps it's a good idea to briefly explain the differences with Augustus= Loop, Little Spacy and Crossfade Loop Synth regarding it's looping/delay= features? --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! Scarlet NO LIMIT nu slechts 19,95 EUR Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 13:13:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C067D3BE7C; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:13:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TRl1iGshhCM0yshkToJ5SshyIUAmdfnYOiDiD63HdxY=; b=Dt9n8zPY5kga+MpSs7WTzFCKaGAgnOYXeKt9y0UPuR7mSvqQ4dXNFH1ujno2mmJiDI hZTqGmrUme8HU3Ayi2SNpLtDdfvCTkXB6hXCeOq7YWX470gVSG/jjujL/CHl8k95H65l VEDcD0jZvfbwM/4Lw9pU0OV+EqzZDN4SeOJwg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=O04AoWuQVGDmdYbhUqLZXmPgi2wX4Pw9aBTIoYhkAoPPp1l2nGMgOBB/KZD1sXgg7r IhoDIYzXGfsXB0i/UurKPkaKgGsxmSKj9xQ92qKCklnbEYm/nQHrhRIYpQZxReuxkIZr SlWVVlkpKyoDPuZI1xWFbIFTcFaxkhE2tf4X0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:13:40 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906100613k1795e1a0q8cff858093703a8f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest - video From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:13:40 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Sjaak wrote: > Perhaps it's a good idea to briefly explain the differences with Augustus Loop, > Little Spacy and Crossfade Loop Synth regarding it's looping/delay features? As for Crossfade Loop Synth I can tell that it is as if having three instances of Augustus Loop all in overdub mode and set to different pitch shift (which of course implements different loop lengths) and some set to reverse mode as well. One Augustus Loop is similar to tape delay looping but with extra goodies like "playing" the loop's pitch from MIDI Notes (keyboard, EWI, MIDI guitar etc) plus the filters with cut-off and LFO sync option. per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 15:55:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37C9C3BE7E; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003001c9e9e3$dcfc2590$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: very off topic : IRS Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:55:22 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01C9E9FD.020F3AC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:55:31 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C9E9FD.020F3AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey, i am sorry this is very off topic. but since a lot of the members of = this list are from usa, i need to ask this. as some of you may know, i did a 5 week tour in usa in march-april. i = have been invited by ucsc to give a lecture and a premier of a new = commissioned piece. there i also recorded a new record with bill walker, = which i am mixing at the moment. everything was great except one issue. = the IRS! it seems that i need to apply for an ITIN number to receive the payment = from the university. i filled out the w7 form along with other things = and sent them to irs. but now it seems that i need to fill out the form = 8233 and get a letter from the social security that states that "i am = ineligible to receive a social security number". so it seems that first = i need to be rejected to be accepted! well, so my question is : how do i = get a letter from the social security that states i am ineligible? i though that the turkish bureaucracy was weird, but it seems that this = even weirder. this is the first that in my life i am applying somewhere = to be rejected! again i am very sorry everyone about this email. but i am desperate and = frustrated. best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23 "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and=20 allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." Blogcritics, Richard Marcus "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." Massimo Ricci, touching extremes ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C9E9FD.020F3AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey,

i am sorry this is very off topic. but since a lot of the members = of this=20 list are from usa, i need to ask this.

as some of you may know, i did a 5 week tour in usa in march-april. = i have=20 been invited by ucsc to give a lecture and a premier of a new = commissioned=20 piece. there i also recorded a new record with bill walker, which i am = mixing at=20 the moment. everything was great except one issue. the IRS!

it seems that i need to apply for an ITIN number to receive the = payment=20 from the university. i filled out the w7 form along with other things = and sent=20 them to irs. but now it seems that i need to fill out the form 8233 and = get a=20 letter from the social security that states that "i am ineligible to = receive a=20 social security number". so it seems that first i need to be rejected to = be=20 accepted! well, so my question is : how do i get a letter from the = social=20 security that states i am ineligible?

i though that the turkish bureaucracy was weird, but it seems that = this=20 even weirder. this is the first that in my life i am applying somewhere = to be=20 rejected!

again i am very sorry everyone about this email. but i am desperate = and=20 frustrated.

best.

Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out = now on=20 Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=3Ddetail&cid=3D23

"wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and =
allow you=20 to explore worlds previously closed to you."
Blogcritics, Richard=20 Marcus

"wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, = period."
Massimo=20 Ricci, touching extremes
------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C9E9FD.020F3AC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 16:14:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 991803BE7E; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lWsLF65VRLpkZqvaNsU6IJMwDOTMhaPK3hsR5Nwtpao=; b=MQlv20me5WyWgiWfqEshvI+4OybzJCo/LvnJ+K8jh+SE8281pLEbUkwxAO/8zI74eX GRwnDS/1d7+0yUkpgeUvZmVo7vBDR+lZzXZpM9qudl5fAKtB9dPqwYAlYOWuSerPxwMX 9ikelRIdLCdoZxAIPkEgTWRvRWlhZgjdzanM0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TdWT7s57y/NyMViAcDXCywdwLKd+9Rl4jvx4DQ9uNHKWjFa4Lo0opYwpmGk6ZCrhG1 XwvqvTAeaPPK0UpFtigAFViZ7WIiJMIoeP6vymzc/g/en7mDS7RlvUI2LRkvGIg/wZYb Y1ZToPSUth9l+hVKvKndHR86mZ7t18E5XYSAw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <003001c9e9e3$dcfc2590$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> References: <003001c9e9e3$dcfc2590$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:14:37 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906100914t13a8688dhcabc0c842898133e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: very off topic : IRS From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5vUAgB.A.9_C.vv9LKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Hi Erdem, I have also struggled with this surprisingly protectionistic American bureaucracy. You are supposed to apply either to the unit in Texas that handles this or to your locally closest licensed authority. In my case this meant I sent my ITIN number appliance to the American embassy in Paris. But look out - on the web site they do not give out the information that you actually need to include a written document that proves your involvement in American activities that generate income for you. The Americans in Paris did not tell me about that either, even though I e-mailed them the direct question, but sent my appliance to Texas so someone in Texas could send me a snail mail back telling me that my appliance lacked some (not specified) verifications and thus could not be accepted. So I'm about to start my second round now in this Kafka-like procedure ;-)) I did include in my appliance enough copied correspondence between me and an American book publishing label that I have been working for as a proof reader. My guess is that only signed contracts will do, so get those papers from the beginning and you will save at least one year in the process. I'm not sure Americans in general know about this, since it only affects non Americans that work for Americans companies while not being American citizens or living in the country. Good luck to you! I know people that have succeeded to get the ITIN so it is definitely possible. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hey, > > i am sorry this is very off topic. but since a lot of the members of this > list are from usa, i need to ask this. > > as some of you may know, i did a 5 week tour in usa in march-april. i have > been invited by ucsc to give a lecture and a premier of a new commissioned > piece. there i also recorded a new record with bill walker, which i am > mixing at the moment. everything was great except one issue. the IRS! > > it seems that i need to apply for an ITIN number to receive the payment from > the university. i filled out the w7 form along with other things and sent > them to irs. but now it seems that i need to fill out the form 8233 and get > a letter from the social security that states that "i am ineligible to > receive a social security number". so it seems that first i need to be > rejected to be accepted! well, so my question is : how do i get a letter > from the social security that states i am ineligible? > > i though that the turkish bureaucracy was weird, but it seems that this even > weirder. this is the first that in my life i am applying somewhere to be > rejected! > > again i am very sorry everyone about this email. but i am desperate and > frustrated. > > best. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=detail&cid=23 > > "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and > allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus > > "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 17:33:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C0713BE79; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IF0LF+JcSxpWRJjcDJ403lYjd9JSLlE0s2SQ0NgCCWE=; b=f6rrzMFUZsPTHCl+Hv0NYymvyPnoJXFfWk1WWFSXpivYN0G7wH0uYIVa8d9Dqp55g7 yOG4qq/0eTExQj0OQ9ZOq/S+x4vMQclYEwCyKlhTwANEHDSuZ5eon51yjsFOpn827dNU 2NLvESnRZVWF4Kb3aPnNiYO5/7Cm6yx6dxFW0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FyD+GHslrWIJvowgusHmlkmth9XVSkd4zanRQBLcAonIx6Acir69wQ+ap0LkbFf21S jwWLmUPGs8kXLwZMz9lrVUL4WWm7vUkZ8xOLZcd/miOO6/3HViK9dxuyymUHRHwv4qpi qgacIpqET7jQsXDUG8zE7rukiOyqu+y7h8wuw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906100914t13a8688dhcabc0c842898133e@mail.gmail.com> References: <003001c9e9e3$dcfc2590$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> <66f9cc1e0906100914t13a8688dhcabc0c842898133e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:33:06 -0400 Message-ID: <2871c3a90906101033s66ceaa03vaa90f2bcb5a98498@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: very off topic : IRS From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9-_PU.A.DvE.T5-LKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:33:07 +0000 (UTC) hi, I got an ITIN last year when I did some seminars/workshops/concerts in New York state. The University that invited me took care of most of the details. Their administrative staff were used to these considerations since they're close to the border and often hire lecturers or artists in residence from Canada. I'd check with UCSC, I'm sure they have someone on staff that can work this out for you... I'm not sure about form 8233? I don't remember having to go through that process, but I'll check my files when I get home and I'll get back to you if I find anything helpful. Are you a member of a musicians' union, association or guild? I'm a Canadian member of the AFM and I've found them very helpful with these issues. Another thing to look into as a non-American working in the US is what tax treaty, if any, exist between your country of residence and the US. This will determine whether you pay income tax to the IRS or to your home country on income gained while working in the US. Good luck, Sylvain On 6/10/09, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi Erdem, > > I have also struggled with this surprisingly protectionistic American > bureaucracy. You are supposed to apply either to the unit in Texas > that handles this or to your locally closest licensed authority. In my > case this meant I sent my ITIN number appliance to the American > embassy in Paris. But look out - on the web site they do not give out > the information that you actually need to include a written document > that proves your involvement in American activities that generate > income for you. The Americans in Paris did not tell me about that > either, even though I e-mailed them the direct question, but sent my > appliance to Texas so someone in Texas could send me a snail mail back > telling me that my appliance lacked some (not specified) verifications > and thus could not be accepted. So I'm about to start my second round > now in this Kafka-like procedure ;-)) I did include in my appliance > enough copied correspondence between me and an American book > publishing label that I have been working for as a proof reader. My > guess is that only signed contracts will do, so get those papers from > the beginning and you will save at least one year in the process. > > I'm not sure Americans in general know about this, since it only > affects non Americans that work for Americans companies while not > being American citizens or living in the country. > > Good luck to you! I know people that have succeeded to get the ITIN so > it is definitely possible. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > > hey, > > > > i am sorry this is very off topic. but since a lot of the members of this > > list are from usa, i need to ask this. > > > > as some of you may know, i did a 5 week tour in usa in march-april. i have > > been invited by ucsc to give a lecture and a premier of a new commissioned > > piece. there i also recorded a new record with bill walker, which i am > > mixing at the moment. everything was great except one issue. the IRS! > > > > it seems that i need to apply for an ITIN number to receive the payment from > > the university. i filled out the w7 form along with other things and sent > > them to irs. but now it seems that i need to fill out the form 8233 and get > > a letter from the social security that states that "i am ineligible to > > receive a social security number". so it seems that first i need to be > > rejected to be accepted! well, so my question is : how do i get a letter > > from the social security that states i am ineligible? > > > > i though that the turkish bureaucracy was weird, but it seems that this even > > weirder. this is the first that in my life i am applying somewhere to be > > rejected! > > > > again i am very sorry everyone about this email. but i am desperate and > > frustrated. > > > > best. > > > > Erdem Helvacioglu > > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: > > www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=detail&cid=23 > > > > "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and > > allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." > > Blogcritics, Richard Marcus > > > > "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." > > Massimo Ricci, touching extremes > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 18:43:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C49093BE82; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:43:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QRPQ+1I++DM2g+kx8b+9HOded851bjxm2ZtlzL2+d6k=; b=tkpWAtyi6EvA0aXH6WxAsK5XiCExas2rXOVNKFX5o0CVzEpA6vNtt/gG58jxgr4v26 iLVopzMjUKZ6iypHMy8D6w3qA+dSD2Nqie0SIHQGS3CsH4Q1mesfjpyb8+aqy+yrq+8f KbYB8opZsGosOEOrMni6RwR+ajXckeU6le9+c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gPIfK6/ASYroJvOScrMTLtnzD7KuJeYqXDGteF0t0O0rRxylD5GSQ3FT7JTNz9sxwR eVVADWxl2p9xlG7h4k0mEL0DbTHnZNauVqj6D8mXYuDXVHMVz7KaHscZ70Ej24VpGgIC QZpyn8uN7O4DAMpQ2tFe+ET4eUiBnQLtk/2co= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:43:56 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60906101143x2a6098b4m25aa41b0f1ab4154@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GIG SPAM + UStream this sunday From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b8ef94e731046c02dbf3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:43:58 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b8ef94e731046c02dbf3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matt and Steve excellent, will look forward to catching your respective sets. This time and technology are so amazing that we can do this. Though I've had some good traditional venue gigs with good turnout I can't tell you how many times it's gone the other way re attendance where I was playing for the bar keep, waitress and me regardless of how much legwork [yes I have quite a pair! (hah!)] and energy I put in to trying to drum up an audience. It's just luck of the draw regardless of what we do, my experience. The four now webcasts/ustreams I've done have all had virtual draw with three of them being 20+ steady connected which has amazed me - it's such a gift to have an audience there and largely many of them from this community supporting each other, that really really means a great deal and I'm sure Matt, Steve, Rainer, Jeff will echo that. This all said in answer to Matt I'm not doing one this Sunday. I did last Sunday and I'm trying to establish my series as a bi-weekly thing as a) I don't want to wear out a good thing and b) the idea is to build the performance series almost akin to a TV thing hence my moniker of Sunday Morning at 11 . I will however have to interrupt my time slot as we're away on vacation over what would be my next weekend (6/21) so I"m planning the next Sunday... to be June 28th if all goes well. With that show I'm planning to have a guest, another duo partner of mine the percussionist who was on the ReUserecord, *Will Romano*. We have a duo project called East of Where. If all goes well we'll be doing the show that Sunday from Will's house in Mastic, NY. On that theme when Daryl is out here (meaning NY) in a few weeks if we can work it out I"m planning to have us do a* Chinapainting*show as my Sunday show for around that time, probably later July. *Sidebar* to those who have interest in blues Will is also an excellent published music writer with two books out on Backbeat Books on Jimmy Reedand Hubert Sumlin. Best to all and Matt/Steve, great shows on Sunday, I'll be in the front row if all possible. Jim --001636c5b8ef94e731046c02dbf3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Matt and Steve excellent, will look forward to catching your respectiv= e sets.=A0 This time and technology are so amazing that we can do this.=A0 = Though I've had some good traditional venue gigs with good turnout I ca= n't tell you how many times it's gone the other way re attendance w= here I was playing for the bar keep, waitress and me regardless of how much= legwork [yes I have quite a pair! (hah!)] and energy I put in to trying to= drum up an audience.=A0 It's just luck of the draw regardless of what = we do, my experience.

=A0

The four now webcasts/ustreams I've done have all had virtual draw= with three of them being 20+ steady connected which has amazed me - it'= ;s such a gift to have an audience there and largely many of them from this= community supporting each other, that really really means a great deal and= I'm sure Matt, Steve, Rainer, Jeff will echo that.

=A0

This all said in answer to Matt I'm not doing one this Sunday.=A0 = I did last Sunday and I'm trying to establish my series as a bi-weekly = thing as a) I don't want to wear out a good thing and b) the idea is to= build the performance series almost akin to a TV thing hence my moniker of= Sunday Morn= ing at 11.=A0 I will however have to interrupt my time slot as we'r= e away on vacation over what would be my next weekend (6/21) so I"m pl= anning the next Sunday... to be June 28th if all goes well.=A0 With that sh= ow I'm planning to have a guest, another duo partner of mine the percus= sionist who was on the ReUse record, Will Romano.=A0 We have a duo proje= ct called East of Where.= =A0 If all goes well we'll be doing the show that Sunday from Will'= s house in Mastic, NY.=A0 On that theme when Daryl is out here (meaning NY)= in a few weeks if we can work it out I"m planning to have us do a= Chinapainting show as my Sunday show for around that time, probably l= ater July.

=A0

Sidebar to those who have interest in blues Will is also an e= xcellent published music writer with two books out on Backbeat=A0Books on <= a href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/Big-Boss-Man-Music-Bluesman/dp/0879308788/r= ef=3Dsr_1_1?ie=3DUTF8&s=3Dbooks&qid=3D1244659143&sr=3D8-1">Jimm= y Reed and Hubert Sumlin.

=A0

Best to all and Matt/Steve, great shows on Sunday, I'll be in the = front row if all possible.

=A0

Jim
--001636c5b8ef94e731046c02dbf3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 18:56:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 485BF3BE7E; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=2DMxCRlIWvnWXvWfm4xpmao77wHYVb8bVBqpWYED754=; b=NfoKY97eYSUplichMLJmRN41cSyZhUMsB1Hap64u8EHMdV4h8DsOjlzoDi33hCLYZm 6NA1NqH0IaiplWEEwUsCEl1SQhnWmnkOvqmQsFmlQPEXzfd5zv/e+tAhc2i55fCewGxD JJAWTfu6mYRtxE8UKcxEyyvWoSZi7hpY8SK6U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=ms0HAU4ykiZ7cQeNwxPPxMAjUTatWeOkebXmdYVl9KJPE4TqDSwLVZh9IWkoxNHuL2 PIGRXYjaXeK8tL0UKRloRquuoNVgzEOVHL23Luy4ETJe9aA9EW1oRORtY9HZHEN2QFkf EXsmzh1a7/+MhyvZQa2d3oPRrP0f0CuoY7PBM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906100310v7d326bbbl6f133a078fbb3c74@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0906100310v7d326bbbl6f133a078fbb3c74@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:55:52 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 111710798ed5fec5 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0906101155s2da81e95t1894413adf25eb47@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Weird, weird drum machine from Sweden To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1eb706f43a4046c0307bf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:56:15 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd1eb706f43a4046c0307bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow, Is this the drum machine Neubauten used on their first album? Its got a great Analog sound to it, with sort of random flams... On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > I know the drum machine used in this video is Swedish but what's the > language of the web site? I mean, where in the world are folks using > such a weird drum machine? > > http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094 > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --000e0cd1eb706f43a4046c0307bf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow, Is this the drum machine Neubauten used on their first album? Its got = a great Analog sound to it, with sort of random flams...

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com= > wrote:

I know the drum m= achine used in this video is Swedish but what's the
language of the web site? I mean, where in the world are folks using
such a weird drum machine?

http:= //fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=3D1094

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

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http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--000e0cd1eb706f43a4046c0307bf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 19:05:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3A843BE80; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OB8H7j1qHRxsx9z865Dx7c8zdytYpxIRYnBC9cS/PpM=; b=UqGVBDUvOPAJTwH12Dr6yf4/XTWN2mzxZsd3FiY841KmLc5XzWuI8Mtb1FWCP/DptX wB3Z+4IIhStqxUnzSOcFzXfwjg3x55KGkQTIKMFeiMr6MGOJI8DEcuWdcyACcpGuFClM epvgXA2qRE574NIkYr6KeqhkOhyIgsFqIuOrM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=oEE/WYlmmNkgGubZgahJxYoWeoWOCzG/vFjlsjiXCov/8co+HUjm0I70HqdYgSt+TO 5swB0Oz5/HTLUoRsqWCNSYW1wPAFWMED1tKLmEhHnPZS4tLGjWJ0EScMlPKMcAAop329 UIIENHmxSctY1E9PKahJeP5obw3w+GzTzk6mQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:05:56 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906101205s2d143f9an3f2047254cd7dfdd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GIG SPAM + UStream this sunday From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:05:59 +0000 (UTC) > I will however have to interrupt my time slot as we're away on vacation over what would be my next weekend (6/21) I know I may be a little over the edge again, but... ...while you're on vacation, isn't there an internet connection that you could hook your laptop+webcam up to and do a "roadshow" - kind of? Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 19:28:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90DE43BE79; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:28:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0906101155s2da81e95t1894413adf25eb47@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0906100310v7d326bbbl6f133a078fbb3c74@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0906101155s2da81e95t1894413adf25eb47@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-66951177 Message-Id: <1C4863AC-EFFE-40FC-966D-FBBF9189F487@ubergadget.com> From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: OT: Weird, weird drum machine from Sweden Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:28:43 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:28:51 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-66951177 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed This is a first. A drum machine with a "carbon footprint". :-) Cheers, Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ > > http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094 > --Apple-Mail-1-66951177 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is a first. =A0A drum machine with a "carbon footprint". = =A0:-)

Cheers,
Rev Fever
http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfe= ver/

http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=3D1094
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= --Apple-Mail-1-66951177-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 19:48:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C32C03BE78; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A300E23.6060101@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:48:51 -0700 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Gig spam - Bay Area tonight w/Matt Davignon References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:48:54 +0000 (UTC) As the 15th gig of my tour, tonight Matt Davignon and I will be doing duo and solo looping stuff in Oakland, at 21 Grand. Been looking forward to this one for a while, we did a gig last October and my tapes and his drum machine rig seem to have a certain understanding. We start at 8, and after us is Cylinder, w/Aram Shelton, Darren Johnston, Liza Mezzacappa, & Kjell Nordeson. heavies! http://www.21grand.org And tomorrow Ted Killian and I are going to get down in Ashland OR...on Sunday, Nevyn Nowhere and I will do our thing in Portland...next Wednesday I'll be playing with Krispen in Boise. Gonna be a sweet week.! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 19:54:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D2193BE86; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:54:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9GzTz9ERxBJ00JVoEc6rM6EolJY0B6vPdgFoSwvfeMU=; b=YsiyrNBU3wu3l1TjCdWoLUQhUuNZFi3j9iXdkpkrsqRS71YI8dGnAnzYCLIAKaGQa5 8Y67YJAn46A8He9AG+jEExFNt8ZLb9Og/Ro+KS8VEZPaMa2gzY0CNCDkDjKQoZUIRC6D BJrfQtKydNgaGShLySDp0Y+8rJ+FzHbHubtkk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=K1f0yzxIunTNUPKJPcTnUYNMkAoHadE3yEjfV8Ostm19yVMnQ6U42tIsnoXKNLtUwZ +LqfQR8wPmCSvtaqTvhnYptcno1LhUnZXKSny1yWiNlUkECLbnajLhwP/OcYIfqJinbK qJeDrwhRUrksWNaRP2cowffk2tpkX02QPNRKA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0906101205s2d143f9an3f2047254cd7dfdd@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0906101205s2d143f9an3f2047254cd7dfdd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:53:58 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60906101253p6fd28e3bwe09f334010d43d09@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GIG SPAM + UStream this sunday From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b8ef0d6d08046c03d6b1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:54:00 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b8ef0d6d08046c03d6b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah I did think of that Rainer and will see but to be honest my wife told me a long time ago when I started chasing my muse in this chapter that she and the kids had no desire to be my 'groupies' which was more pointed to please don't book gigs while we are on family holiday which I've been guilty of doing. I'll see how it goes as yes I could be live from Maine which I've gigged in before - when we were on vacation up there (arg). I do appreciate the support on this. As supportive as my family has been re my music in many ways, in the end it always seems that it's better when I don't involve them in my pursuits but we'll see. July will also interrupt Sunday Morning at 11 as Daryl and I are doing 4 CP shows, 2 in Ohio, 1 Philly and 1 NY so not sure how the sch'd will play. I do hope that I can sch'd a CP ustream as announced. Look foward to yours on Saturday Rainer. Do you use any other wind instruments ever? I was a horn player growing up (Sax/CLarinet/flute) till I finalized on guitar. In my experimenting with other instruments last few years I've gotten into Native American wood flutes. Anyhow I know I"m OT right now, sorry folks... J On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > > I will however have to interrupt my time slot as we're away on vacation > over what would be my next weekend (6/21) > > I know I may be a little over the edge again, but... > > ...while you're on vacation, isn't there an internet connection that > you could hook your laptop+webcam up to and do a "roadshow" - kind of? > > Rainer > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5b8ef0d6d08046c03d6b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah I did think of that Rainer and will see but to be honest my wife = told me a long time ago when I started chasing my muse in this chapter that= she and the kids had no desire to be my 'groupies' which was more = pointed to please don't book gigs while we are on family holiday which = I've been guilty of doing.=A0

=A0

I'll see how it goes as yes I could be live from Maine which I'= ;ve gigged in before - when we were on vacation up there (arg).=A0 I do app= reciate the support on this.=A0 As supportive as my family has been re my m= usic in many ways, in the end it always seems that it's better when I d= on't involve them in my pursuits but we'll see.=A0 July will also i= nterrupt Sunday Morning at 11 as Daryl and I are doing 4 CP shows, 2 in Ohi= o, 1 Philly and 1 NY so not sure how the sch'd will play.=A0 I do hope = that I can sch'd a CP ustream as announced.

=A0

Look foward to yours on Saturday Rainer.=A0 Do you use any other wind = instruments ever?=A0 I was a horn player growing up=A0(Sax/CLarinet/flute) = till I finalized on guitar.=A0 In my experimenting with other instruments l= ast few years I've gotten into Native American wood flutes.=A0 Anyhow I= know I"m OT right now, sorry folks...

=A0

J

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Rainer Straschi= ll <moinso= und@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I will however have to interrupt my time slot as we&= #39;re away on vacation over what would be my next weekend (6/21)

I know I may be a little over the edge again, but...

...while yo= u're on vacation, isn't there an internet connection that
you could hook your laptop+webcam up to and do a "roadshow" - kin= d of?

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer

<= /font>

--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming= soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--001636c5b8ef0d6d08046c03d6b1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 20:23:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCEC63BE7F; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:23:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=40bD1qMhJn0NQ8Hue7fBZomwalvI4/HxVOAhK8nPXA4=; b=in8uH1N219/AbTfTmgd826+DS0aE+Bw262zzYspM4YelkSbAjxnr/Z4cCrsnQrM8V5 hE7jU9tWskCksJA7uV27xU2lTEyNf0deWrosx7bqmS1/EgBmvaiIl1EEk943xGFGHvHN A9CcTGlunkAgi5sRZ0UIA6BvuioLL3KvHncNk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N//PkT00IvZ+vLTUF1GVdT9r86MHZQEg9rSVz64XBOa69CC5SeEZGcNe9ZH5CbKzpv TTigz3U17QbM1JllnbbqYizKmGe8EyL506n/CB8iqrYIApszj1aSSfWGesWceU4oLRdx tx+c5xFDy96SILxzrEYX+pEeoW3ph6GW4KBFo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A300E23.6060101@mhorse.com> References: <4A300E23.6060101@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:23:41 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60906101323i4f116de6i13877412aed7176@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Gig spam - Bay Area tonight w/Matt Davignon From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_sEPuB.A.dOE.PZBMKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:23:43 +0000 (UTC) Daryl break a string or tape reel or some other expression other than a leg (sounds much too painful) in other words loop the house on all these, say hey to california for me. J On 6/10/09, Daryl Shawn wrote: > As the 15th gig of my tour, tonight Matt Davignon and I will be doing > duo and solo looping stuff in Oakland, at 21 Grand. Been looking forward > to this one for a while, we did a gig last October and my tapes and his > drum machine rig seem to have a certain understanding. > > We start at 8, and after us is Cylinder, w/Aram Shelton, Darren > Johnston, Liza Mezzacappa, & Kjell Nordeson. heavies! > > http://www.21grand.org > > And tomorrow Ted Killian and I are going to get down in Ashland OR...on > Sunday, Nevyn Nowhere and I will do our thing in Portland...next > Wednesday I'll be playing with Krispen in Boise. Gonna be a sweet week.! > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 20:34:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A70523BE7F; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pxQFKpq34sk3kkzFjOhBptmfx/zklCwCGIghmGWc1IQ=; b=R6BaJOZ13uNWu9F/CXy4mdEYXlf34NJrMb8ECf1Wf7Uj+wyx4lq31efWqBvcr+QCJ7 Epq9SX9AJHmhD9qrbMw3pQ014VaXBjgedubHZmXHCltPevGkLtD9F0hxUkyffHwpGXwL IPgeOePzWATLFINyEtFODvNsSqJgCxtSXUrCQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=V1N+KDASDHUJJAuTPee71SQ0A5MAaPPrcHPZQCwSpKPkeRfjhOhQY/Kwr+QdFEk9h4 BqZn+v3cgkbGKgo3gTU3J3gvCrQ7Ac+pkMasXC3NZQFnR5Zky6R01pYyKC8+zlm4Ey6+ JwCyG5XgEIqyzUFGkE4V6VLdUPaiiI5nH4NHw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:34:51 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906101334n51671ea9r2cdd33461d0d87a5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT or not OT (was: GIG SPAM + UStream this sunday) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Jim, > Look foward to yours on Saturday Rainer. Do you use any other wind instr= uments ever? > I was a horn player growing up (Sax/CLarinet/flute) till I finalized on g= uitar. In my experimenting with other instruments last few years I've gott= en into Native American wood flutes. Good question...besides trombone, (and another trombone), I do own an alto and a very nice soprano sax (and have been doing some nice stuff with the soprano in the past, but they have both been collecting dust for years). I never had any training on saxophone, but did manage to do some beautiful things on them nonetheless (or at least that's what I believe). Then there's a soprano recorder (M=F6llnhauer, if anyone knows what I'm talking about) which I got dead cheap at ebay for the equivalent of $2.50 back then, which I sometimes apply for ugly effects (Jeff - wasn't there a session we did where I would accompany your playing with its ugly tweeting?). I also have a harmonica, and just the other day, I was able to get a pro quality melodica (Hohner Professional 36, if anyone is interested) at a great price - and that will no doubt see some use in the near future. Then again - wind instruments, let's see...aged about six, I was featured for a full show (some 45 minutes) on BR (Bavarian national radio), playing among other things bottles with a hairdryer and holding music boxes to different resonators and while playing pinching the thing with tweezers. I remember it was a great effect (and here we're back on topic with looping) to play a music box over and over held against a bath tub while the water runs out... A happy vacation to you, Jim! Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 20:47:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 381AF3BE78; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:47:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kOCDPHon678moZUKNhACkMOeLCotWXM9cUJHRmWnlOI=; b=q+ja0NqLDg7TyiW/pLmXbNJnwvWf8jc3jsKnBwOb6D/DogWBZY40hFkIh+VaPscxmY 3TZIJurW9qV9zMRdJ7YSwi4nUnXCKQTIZrQFTk3rv1mGqU3ZLH96qO6c5ZIESmXngu9O d31VwK/G6rE9dG4a6MmnYkUGJWmMqKfPf/TzA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dssFfIt2fVM8GzDrIfhvvkhkRi6pJKcp+PoP9dWJsVYii+Qyui8svzvPkT3Ywf87Ac /OU1i4bmgyIykgWwOoQ+62ytChkWfsLLcuLlPmNWKirtrcOYnQ+Eyaa8ZmyKAsPywasm 62vDLv97RlXU0dAVWDFWozIq7mWgsIFiSUdLw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0906091257o16819218j48eb708d3a13a3c4@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F6A7B.9030505@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:40:07 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4LU79C.A.zIF._vBMKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:47:59 +0000 (UTC) I think I'm about to ditch the laptop as well. The older I get the less I care about leaving the house for gigs and frankly at this point who am I kidding? The laptop I bought for gigging or occasional visits to friends for a jam has left my home a total zero times. Now my general use/surfing laptop is DEAD. I'm thinking that rather than replace it the money would be better spent on replacing my music laptop with a desktop and relegating the old music laptop for general use. I'm just thinking of getting the best HP desktop I can afford (which is probably only around $600) as a bunch of my friends basically said, "10 years ago build saved you money and hassle. Now it just buys you pain." This is a guy who's a high level IT guy too. But your touchscreen micro axt... that sounds juicy. Can you tell more about it? I can't seem to find much info on DYI touch screens and from what I can tell getting the HP with it built in doubles the price. On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:14 AM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > not sure how late i am, but in concerns to the acer laptops, i called abo= ut > 6 months ago and they did not use TI chipsets in any computers anymore- > > in my adventure to find a perfect laptop, i bought 2 dells and returned t= hem > both - for what its worth the business class model performed much better > than the consumer lvl garbage... > > i ended up wth a macbook pro running bootcamp.... which worked well since > mobius is a very resource friendly program- > but from my experience, running windows progrms in bootcamp is noticably > slower than an equivenlent machine running windows os > > i now ditched the mac and built a micro atx PC with a touchscreen monitor= - > =3DD....farewell laptop loopers! ;o) > > fro > > > > > > >> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:10:35 +0100 >> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications >> >> The info appears to be in the Device Manager, >> on XP at least. >> >> >> Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> > But what if the manufacturer doesn't state what one they use? >> > Confusing... why can't we all just get along? ;) >> > >> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Rainer >> > Straschill wrote: >> >>> Has anyone had any experience with the newer Acer laptops >> >> A friend of mine (not audio-conscious, but IT professional and >> >> reseller) has them in his shortlist together with Samsung. >> >> >> >>> and I keep hearing that not all Firewire chipsets do well with audio= . >> >> It's relatively simple. There are two mass-produced IEEE1394 chipsets >> >> - by TI and Ricoh respectivle. The TI is good, the Ricoh is not. >> >> >> >> Rainer >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > ________________________________ > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. See how. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 21:00:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 945C53BE7F; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:00:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b2288bf5-d694-4c09-944e-ca03b6a15342_" X-Originating-IP: [99.195.241.119] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:00:55 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0906091257o16819218j48eb708d3a13a3c4@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F6A7B.9030505@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2009 21:00:56.0070 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C476260:01C9EA0E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:00:57 +0000 (UTC) --_b2288bf5-d694-4c09-944e-ca03b6a15342_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable good luck man! i built a dual core 2.6 w/ 4 gig ram 128 mb video- TI instrument firewire c= ard -200gig HD - for $500- newegg and ebay whatever route you go=2C definitly get a TI firewire card (if u use firewir= e)=2C it makes all the difference in the world- please understand that micro atx is a form factor for CPU cases and has not= hign to do with the touch screen- the best touchscreen company is elo (elotouch.com)- i believe they make a product that you can install over any monitor to conv= ert it to touch=2C but i bought an open frame model that includes the lcd m= onitor and the touchscreen off ebay- goodluck fro > Date: Wed=2C 10 Jun 2009 13:40:07 -0700 > Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications > From: zerocrossing@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > I think I'm about to ditch the laptop as well. The older I get the > less I care about leaving the house for gigs and frankly at this point > who am I kidding? The laptop I bought for gigging or occasional > visits to friends for a jam has left my home a total zero times. >=20 > Now my general use/surfing laptop is DEAD. I'm thinking that rather > than replace it the money would be better spent on replacing my music > laptop with a desktop and relegating the old music laptop for general > use. >=20 > I'm just thinking of getting the best HP desktop I can afford (which > is probably only around $600) as a bunch of my friends basically said=2C > "10 years ago build saved you money and hassle. Now it just buys you > pain." This is a guy who's a high level IT guy too. >=20 > But your touchscreen micro axt... that sounds juicy. Can you tell > more about it? I can't seem to find much info on DYI touch screens > and from what I can tell getting the HP with it built in doubles the > price. >=20 > On Wed=2C Jun 10=2C 2009 at 1:14 AM=2C FRO DIDDLY= wrote: > > not sure how late i am=2C but in concerns to the acer laptops=2C i call= ed about > > 6 months ago and they did not use TI chipsets in any computers anymore- > > > > in my adventure to find a perfect laptop=2C i bought 2 dells and return= ed them > > both - for what its worth the business class model performed much bette= r > > than the consumer lvl garbage... > > > > i ended up wth a macbook pro running bootcamp.... which worked well sin= ce > > mobius is a very resource friendly program- > > but from my experience=2C running windows progrms in bootcamp is notica= bly > > slower than an equivenlent machine running windows os > > > > i now ditched the mac and built a micro atx PC with a touchscreen monit= or - > > =3DD....farewell laptop loopers! =3Bo) > > > > fro > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Wed=2C 10 Jun 2009 09:10:35 +0100 > >> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications > >> > >> The info appears to be in the Device Manager=2C > >> on XP at least. > >> > >> > >> Mark Sottilaro wrote: > >> > But what if the manufacturer doesn't state what one they use? > >> > Confusing... why can't we all just get along? =3B) > >> > > >> > On Tue=2C Jun 9=2C 2009 at 12:57 PM=2C Rainer > >> > Straschill wrote: > >> >>> Has anyone had any experience with the newer Acer laptops > >> >> A friend of mine (not audio-conscious=2C but IT professional and > >> >> reseller) has them in his shortlist together with Samsung. > >> >> > >> >>> and I keep hearing that not all Firewire chipsets do well with aud= io. > >> >> It's relatively simple. There are two mass-produced IEEE1394 chipse= ts > >> >> - by TI and Ricoh respectivle. The TI is good=2C the Ricoh is not. > >> >> > >> >> Rainer > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > ________________________________ > > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. See how. >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE.=20 http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tut= orial_QuickAdd_062009= --_b2288bf5-d694-4c09-944e-ca03b6a15342_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable good luck man!

i built a dual core 2.6 w/ 4 gig ram 128 mb video- TI= instrument firewire card -200gig HD - =3B for $500- newegg and ebay
whatever route you go=2C definitly get a TI firewire card (if u use fi= rewire)=2C it makes all the difference in the world-

please understa= nd that micro atx is a form factor for CPU cases and has nothign to do with= the touch screen-

the best touchscreen company is elo (elotouch.com= )-

i believe they make a product that you can install over any monit= or to convert it to touch=2C but i bought an open frame model that includes= the lcd monitor and the touchscreen off ebay-

goodluck
fro

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See how. = --_b2288bf5-d694-4c09-944e-ca03b6a15342_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 21:08:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47E913BE7E; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nb8JlEkcXcn4wH4JVjYOAkO/m+0qS9J60CgETeuO2g4=; b=SQ0ODeRvlwsC7AXltFWXO+IXvrpUiHJSTAmq9Y3L/5eVvrBHSvaA2GlxcI3IMYGHTy qzqYwRHy1YgXdlK0eticO5R40X9lewbQSBZ28J1AmVXtt5w1g8TjMQM+zcStM2rmIlGJ W7BaKbzcHlBNEG47ZGgzUVrk4g+yebpZMTunA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gmnkCDmtog2QEfQV+t7aebCRdhFerhnvhfRIwfKMFWaONIEUUbfzb7fAK0aVBtHyWb fZqdlb/DYrxTAKRoVf9MTT1NlKJc3xK1kGoM1urcfiAlfVWGVgA03peRupLJ8nNEa6i8 7tHjCG9yEaQxldxual4GJHTfqeOCnCXBpxZyI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0906091257o16819218j48eb708d3a13a3c4@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F6A7B.9030505@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:08:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Hm, that's not far off from what a prebuilt machine with those specs would cost me and that's not even thinking about the cost of buying Windows if you build it yourself. I checked out that company... confusing. They have so many types... I'd want one that could be installed over my 22" Samsung LCD. On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:00 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > good luck man! > > i built a dual core 2.6 w/ 4 gig ram 128 mb video- TI instrument firewire > card -200gig HD -=A0 for $500- newegg and ebay > > whatever route you go, definitly get a TI firewire card (if u use firewir= e), > it makes all the difference in the world- > > please understand that micro atx is a form factor for CPU cases and has > nothign to do with the touch screen- > > the best touchscreen company is elo (elotouch.com)- > > i believe they make a product that you can install over any monitor to > convert it to touch, but i bought an open frame model that includes the l= cd > monitor and the touchscreen off ebay- > > goodluck > fro > > > > > > > >> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:40:07 -0700 >> Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications >> From: zerocrossing@gmail.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> I think I'm about to ditch the laptop as well. The older I get the >> less I care about leaving the house for gigs and frankly at this point >> who am I kidding? The laptop I bought for gigging or occasional >> visits to friends for a jam has left my home a total zero times. >> >> Now my general use/surfing laptop is DEAD. I'm thinking that rather >> than replace it the money would be better spent on replacing my music >> laptop with a desktop and relegating the old music laptop for general >> use. >> >> I'm just thinking of getting the best HP desktop I can afford (which >> is probably only around $600) as a bunch of my friends basically said, >> "10 years ago build saved you money and hassle. Now it just buys you >> pain." This is a guy who's a high level IT guy too. >> >> But your touchscreen micro axt... that sounds juicy. Can you tell >> more about it? I can't seem to find much info on DYI touch screens >> and from what I can tell getting the HP with it built in doubles the >> price. >> >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:14 AM, FRO DIDDLY wrot= e: >> > not sure how late i am, but in concerns to the acer laptops, i called >> > about >> > 6 months ago and they did not use TI chipsets in any computers anymore= - >> > >> > in my adventure to find a perfect laptop, i bought 2 dells and returne= d >> > them >> > both - for what its worth the business class model performed much bett= er >> > than the consumer lvl garbage... >> > >> > i ended up wth a macbook pro running bootcamp.... which worked well >> > since >> > mobius is a very resource friendly program- >> > but from my experience, running windows progrms in bootcamp is noticab= ly >> > slower than an equivenlent machine running windows os >> > >> > i now ditched the mac and built a micro atx PC with a touchscreen >> > monitor - >> > =3DD....farewell laptop loopers! ;o) >> > >> > fro >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:10:35 +0100 >> >> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk >> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications >> >> >> >> The info appears to be in the Device Manager, >> >> on XP at least. >> >> >> >> >> >> Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> >> > But what if the manufacturer doesn't state what one they use? >> >> > Confusing... why can't we all just get along? ;) >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Rainer >> >> > Straschill wrote: >> >> >>> Has anyone had any experience with the newer Acer laptops >> >> >> A friend of mine (not audio-conscious, but IT professional and >> >> >> reseller) has them in his shortlist together with Samsung. >> >> >> >> >> >>> and I keep hearing that not all Firewire chipsets do well with >> >> >>> audio. >> >> >> It's relatively simple. There are two mass-produced IEEE1394 >> >> >> chipsets >> >> >> - by TI and Ricoh respectivle. The TI is good, the Ricoh is not. >> >> >> >> >> >> Rainer >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. See how. >> > > ________________________________ > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. See how. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 21:10:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAF5B3BE82; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 604 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:10:14 UTC Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Fwd: very off topic : IRS Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:00:05 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Server-Quench: add46f5b-5601-11de-a90b-001f29070be2 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwRdfTALARpo UEhAUlBQHgVoCxwG SBwaTBhxdxtAcWBx ZkJ9XHVZWVt6Oxh4 MzJUEy1XZW9nb2YZ HkRcdgIaIVceehkT bwJiUXUNYHgGZy41 WgZiZzp0ZW0GJn4E Gl5VJ19IV2gUEmx0 WR0YDH0oE0NNWyIr LhdueBY9Jn15 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.kestrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1562/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: <6b2yxC.A.RLG.2ECMKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:10:14 +0000 (UTC) well, for what its worth... I had to do the exact same for the government of Spain... it took a little more than 3 months of inanely slow and kafka-esque paperwork to get paid. i'm imagining if its the same process you might just have to live with getting paid several months after the event. On Jun 10, 2009, at 9:14 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> Hi Erdem, >> >> I have also struggled with this surprisingly protectionistic American >> bureaucracy. You are supposed to apply either to the unit in Texas >> that handles this or to your locally closest licensed authority. In >> my >> case this meant I sent my ITIN number appliance to the American >> embassy in Paris. But look out - on the web site they do not give out >> the information that you actually need to include a written document >> that proves your involvement in American activities that generate >> income for you. The Americans in Paris did not tell me about that >> either, even though I e-mailed them the direct question, but sent my >> appliance to Texas so someone in Texas could send me a snail mail >> back >> telling me that my appliance lacked some (not specified) >> verifications >> and thus could not be accepted. So I'm about to start my second round >> now in this Kafka-like procedure ;-)) I did include in my appliance >> enough copied correspondence between me and an American book >> publishing label that I have been working for as a proof reader. My >> guess is that only signed contracts will do, so get those papers from >> the beginning and you will save at least one year in the process. >> >> I'm not sure Americans in general know about this, since it only >> affects non Americans that work for Americans companies while not >> being American citizens or living in the country. >> >> Good luck to you! I know people that have succeeded to get the ITIN >> so >> it is definitely possible. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Erdem >> Helvacioglu wrote: >>> hey, >>> >>> i am sorry this is very off topic. but since a lot of the members >>> of this >>> list are from usa, i need to ask this. >>> >>> as some of you may know, i did a 5 week tour in usa in march- >>> april. i have >>> been invited by ucsc to give a lecture and a premier of a new >>> commissioned >>> piece. there i also recorded a new record with bill walker, which >>> i am >>> mixing at the moment. everything was great except one issue. the >>> IRS! >>> >>> it seems that i need to apply for an ITIN number to receive the >>> payment from >>> the university. i filled out the w7 form along with other things >>> and sent >>> them to irs. but now it seems that i need to fill out the form >>> 8233 and get >>> a letter from the social security that states that "i am >>> ineligible to >>> receive a social security number". so it seems that first i need >>> to be >>> rejected to be accepted! well, so my question is : how do i get a >>> letter >>> from the social security that states i am ineligible? >>> >>> i though that the turkish bureaucracy was weird, but it seems that >>> this even >>> weirder. this is the first that in my life i am applying somewhere >>> to be >>> rejected! >>> >>> again i am very sorry everyone about this email. but i am >>> desperate and >>> frustrated. >>> >>> best. >>> >>> Erdem Helvacioglu >>> www.erdemhelvacioglu.com >>> www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu >>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >>> "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: >>> www.aucourantrecords.com/catalog.php?op=detail&cid=23 >>> >>> "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and >>> allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." >>> Blogcritics, Richard Marcus >>> >>> "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." >>> Massimo Ricci, touching extremes >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 21:26:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2284F3BE89; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:26:03 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0906100409x765945e8qc2142b8094945af4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090610212603.198560@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7334ca1b0906100409x765945e8qc2142b8094945af4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Weird, weird drum machine from Sweden To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/pGBooBtbp/D6I4E1UFHxboXblQo6Y9VtF7nH/rE arnID/hBfAIDhTKVDO1rQarUcLGk6HnJ7f2A== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: jUBYB6ssbHIhfdsjwjU0dA8iJihyatDq X-FuHaFi: 0.78 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:26:06 +0000 (UTC) > > I mean, where in the world are folks using such a weird drum machine? love it! I'm so sick of synthetic beats, it's really refreshing to hear the "real deal". Would be sweet to bring that on stage for a gig ;-) -- GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate und Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 21:41:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA95B3BE7C; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:41:10 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906100259n6b56005bt244b405023c36943@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090610214110.198580@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <66f9cc1e0906100110v70b7a907s69423106d700ac54@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F740B.3010404@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0906100156k4c010194p64d25c65075a6cca@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F80A2.50001@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0906100259n6b56005bt244b405023c36943@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Anyone into multi (frequency) band panning? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19lfpJBTWtlOonrw+Lvb95RAw/YYRzAfuxjCyoAgY RWeE6nlbuOnVOT3wuFLC4MYmO/sKuQxWijDg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: RFIFIvknZDIrLscogWc2+kl5emhmY4FS X-FuHaFi: 0.64 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per panning... yes, one of my favorite looping topics :) Personally, I like occasionally putting a pan delay on high frequencies (i.e. hihats etc.). Gives a nice spacious open sound. Low frequencies, I find panning a waste. Mid freqs, I'd like to control it manually, usually panning hard right/left. Some other thoughts: - Automate panning of your loops right from the beginning. I.e. Loop1=Center, Loop2=Hard Right, Loop3=Hard Left, Loop4=Mid Right, Loop5=Mid Left, Loop6=Center... etc. - Use designated midi control knobs for each loop (several loopers or i.e. Ableton Live clips) Overall, I enjoy very much positioning each loop in a specific (or dynamic) position manually. best regards Buzap -- GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate und Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 10 22:04:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2BB03BE7F; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:04:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Jtfk9LlaSJy1vUphQwf9fTFhwuPAtdrCN51FcImYhrs=; b=CLdBFr3C4KPF8zmZ13+ZfDRXELgoRxokzLsnIDdfxigy7ST7+ZrbJ06ehCUMWfhB0s 38yfV8ud4ST1fHqVT68OmAc6f/b6MP/pCpgyEpKjd0bZ/9MWuSontV7NEDKmu4Ezy4q9 CZ5I0R7FuZF/43DbrnI7vLH2XvcKGkRuNGhdE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nF9TLxvCtwgIzWIPAYGM6P7HiI/55ga20f2/ojSjmJV/DSB26dgQa/91zaC6qIDU+M MNwMu+0mTrU0diBRlWLzN6IUPFvOZhzhvuMM0j+EcyaGsrejMr55neUmBcg9GOegm+G6 hB9o8Z/K6MazXGTGW1J+ebTPmjuNidx2qmKAY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0906101334n51671ea9r2cdd33461d0d87a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0906101334n51671ea9r2cdd33461d0d87a5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:04:47 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60906101504l63d5115v97c6ef9d4718776d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT or not OT (was: GIG SPAM + UStream this sunday) From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b680de15b0046c05a942 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:04:48 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b680de15b0046c05a942 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow that's a history of a lot of wind! Excellent, add some of that to your trombone ustream's - I still think you ought to promo your series in the brass forums though you may get some less than flexible souls meaning 'this is how you play the trombone and only way that you play the trombone' kind of folks. Actually loop some soprano sax and trombone stuff. Your last para sounds like the early John Cage YouTUbe clip someone on the list posted sometime back when Cage was on the I've Got a Secret in the early 60's - think this was it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSulycqZH-U and yes we're indirectly back on looping. Good stuff Rainer and thanks re our fam trip, going to be great to get back up north it's kind of ala Per's and Ronny's land here in the States... J --001636c5b680de15b0046c05a942 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wow that's a history of a lot of wind!=A0 Excellent, add some of t= hat to your trombone ustream's - I still think you ought to promo your = series in the brass forums though you may get some less than flexible souls= meaning 'this is how you play the trombone and only way that you play = the trombone' kind of folks.=A0 Actually loop some soprano sax and trom= bone stuff.

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Your last para sounds like the early John Cage YouTUbe clip someone on= the list posted sometime back when Cage was on the I've Got=A0a Secret= in the early 60's - think this was it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DSSulycqZH-U=A0and yes we're indirectly back on looping.

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Good stuff Rainer and thanks re our fam trip, going to be great to get= back up north it's kind of ala Per's and Ronny's land here in = the States...

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--001636c5b680de15b0046c05a942-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 11 01:03:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31C303BE77; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:03:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <4A300E23.6060101@mhorse.com> References: <4A300E23.6060101@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <92fd0d6e639dcf242c3ef8d269cf3f67@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Gig spam - Bay Area tonight w/Matt Davignon Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:03:05 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:03:14 +0000 (UTC) Daryl, Break a pick or a string or something (rather than a leg) tonight. Say "hi" to Matt for me too. See you tomorrow night. Best. Ted On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > As the 15th gig of my tour, tonight Matt Davignon and I will be doing > duo and solo looping stuff in Oakland, at 21 Grand. Been looking > forward to this one for a while, we did a gig last October and my > tapes and his drum machine rig seem to have a certain understanding. > > We start at 8, and after us is Cylinder, w/Aram Shelton, Darren > Johnston, Liza Mezzacappa, & Kjell Nordeson. heavies! > > http://www.21grand.org > > And tomorrow Ted Killian and I are going to get down in Ashland > OR...on Sunday, Nevyn Nowhere and I will do our thing in > Portland...next Wednesday I'll be playing with Krispen in Boise. > Gonna be a sweet week.! > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > From unideai@dawson.nswebhost.com Thu Jun 11 04:29:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from dawson.nswebhost.com (dawson.nswebhost.com [65.254.40.34]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1732A3BE71 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unideai by dawson.nswebhost.com with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MEbuL-00045Z-BU for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:28:57 -0500 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cancellazione X-PHP-Script: unidea.es/es_es/cancellazione/index.php for 66.249.71.129 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Message-Id: Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:28:57 -0500 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dawson.nswebhost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32500 32501] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dawson.nswebhost.com Ti confermo che la cancellazione alla newsletter è stata effettuata From hajia.mariam0001@yahoo.com.hk Thu Jun 11 05:53:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 21703 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:53:19 UTC Received: from sta6h2.hosting2nv.com (plz.dont.ask2ask.com [72.20.33.49]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078B13BE71; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=72.20.33.49) by sta6h2.hosting2nv.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MENG8-0007rZ-1H; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:50:28 +0000 Received: from 77.246.64.242 ([77.246.64.242]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user hajiamariam@zeedseed.net) by 72.20.33.49 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:50:28 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <20389.77.246.64.242.1244638228.squirrel@72.20.33.49> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:50:28 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Ugent Reply With your telephone number. 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Sincerely Yours, Hajia Mariam From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 11 07:38:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E3EF3BE7E; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uh0gpgDLCWHhOdva4Si+amc3jxSrF2M3ethdMrQrHb0=; b=YyAuwNHtCrouAJDq7YQCbrktgxUg96RIwBmJkufnh4JF1crKDNQeCkwIkogI9hyQvP VnjT4Rzo54Vw4JxiraJSlUGnmpXJ2w+hbDmk8y1RahEUwDGWl/mvat6I9EYc01g7Ra9M eNpw7YPuYQHOU/hfW0Gzar/PZ3OzLHG37tI9w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ZD5xe0pEvUS+Bt7m07dAJ914+AH+3fDVeUNITnVmzrqZX4FVRbz7xBTfT/KNefkRWs f0iaHhACi7OG8/6hf0uNDdXReh7Ue6z5yaQlL/3qe6wjwjXr+IcaqjR2d4cQKFK+NLld bRPcLNzrgUCqBARblsxv0wd6tsqKxnSeIrFI0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:38:38 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 955f2f7f43b7803b Message-ID: Subject: Re: Antwerp Loopfest - video From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9cR9SC.A.XCG.ASLMKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:38:40 +0000 (UTC) 2009/6/10 Sjaak : > Perhaps it's a good idea to briefly explain the differences with Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and Crossfade Loop Synth regarding it's looping/delay features? here's a brief summary: - Augustus Loop is was originally modelled on a tape delay (so it does varispeed/reverse nicely, and makes a rather nice sound if you stop the 'tape') but has evolved with more looping features. It's stereo and can do ping-pong type delays. Two particularly useful features for looping are the ability to 'freeze' the loop (i.e. stop the decay/tonal modulation that you get by feeding back a signal even at 100% feedback) and the ability to change the loop length seamlessly on the fly. There's a variant which lets you pass the feedback loop out to external processing. - Little Spacey is really just a delay. It's modelled on analogue delays e.g. the Electroharmonix Deluxe Memory Man. - Crossfade Loop Synth is a live sampler. It has a buffer into which you can record audio, and then play it back (polyphonically) via MIDI notes. However, you can record and play back simultaneously, so if you continually record and continually play back you end up with a delay effect. But a polyphonic one. You can also play back in reverse or in 'alternate' mode (playback alternately forwards and backwards). - Meringue is another delay, but records & plays alternately backwards and forwards. (NB this is different to Crossfade Loop Synth which can play in alternate mode but always records forwards.) cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 11 11:01:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B633B3BE79; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "eterogeneo" To: "Leander Reininghaus" , "Xavier Plagaro Mussard" , "Rick Walker" , "Michael Peters" , "Bernhard Wagner" , "Massimo Liverani" , "Paolo Cimmino" , "Sjaak Overgaauw" , "Per Boysen" , Cc: References: <496EFE9B2CBC4B82826B89CBAB16970D@leander> Subject: Re: From home after the Live looping Festival "in Rome" Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:01:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01D6_01C9EA94.B239C680" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: smtp4.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:01:17 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01D6_01C9EA94.B239C680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear friends,=20 I want to thanks everyone who was involved in = the Rome Loopfest, both performers and the staff, who made possible = realize for the first time this kind of event in Italy. I think you all saw me stressed (as I really was), but at the same time = it was a true joy and fun for me have you playing-jocking-chatting here. If I go back to the Zurich memories (in 2005) when Bernhard Wagner = introduced me to this world, I'd never thought that after a few years = I'd make it by myself. So I'm really happy, because I DID IT ! ...and because - as usual - it was a precious learning experience about = music, softwares, looping stuff, and a lot of other things.... Thanks to Xavier and his wife Giovanna for the audio/video recording = they made in Rome and Florence, for the interviews and the (future) = rendering work. I want also to thanks Sabika, who presentend the show, giving me the = chance to play at the festival. Thanks to Giuseppe, my dearest friend-brother, for putting so much = energy (and fun) for his precious help. I'll keep you informed by the mail list about the audio/video = recordings. In the week-end I'll complete the upload of my photos at:=20 http://www.flickr.com/groups/loopfestrome2009/ Best Fabio www.eterogeneo.com P.S: anyone have photos of me playing (Antwerp-Florence-Rome) ? It seems = like apart two pics fby Darkroom, ther's no photo of me playing.... ------=_NextPart_000_01D6_01C9EA94.B239C680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear friends, =

         &nb= sp;           &nbs= p; =20 I want to thanks everyone who was involved in the Rome Loopfest, both = performers=20 and the staff, who made possible realize for the first time this kind of = event=20 in Italy.

I think you all = saw me=20 stressed (as I really was), but at the same time  it was = a true=20 joy and fun for me have you playing-jocking-chatting here.

If I go back to the = Zurich memories=20 (in 2005) when Bernhard Wagner introduced me to this world, I'd never = thought=20 that after a few years I'd make it by myself.

So I'm really happy, = because I DID=20 IT !

...and because - as = usual - it=20 was a precious learning experience about music, softwares, looping=20 stuff,  and a lot of other things....

Thanks to Xavier = and his wife=20 Giovanna for the audio/video recording they made in Rome and = Florence,=20 for the interviews and the (future) rendering work.

I want also to thanks = Sabika, who=20 presentend the show, giving me the chance to play at the=20 festival.

Thanks to Giuseppe, my = dearest=20 friend-brother, for putting so much energy (and fun) for his = precious=20 help.

I'll keep you informed = by the mail=20 list about the audio/video recordings.

In the week-end I'll = complete the=20 upload of my photos at:

http://www.flickr= .com/groups/loopfestrome2009/

Best

Fabio

www.eterogeneo.com

P.S: anyone have photos = of me=20 playing (Antwerp-Florence-Rome) ? It seems like apart two pics fby = Darkroom,=20 ther's no photo of me playing....
------=_NextPart_000_01D6_01C9EA94.B239C680-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 11 13:48:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36F833BE78; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1244728090; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=jD7IXYYqu3af79GokiqwYu9f4gQ=; b=CkkO/SQp2lT0BTv+HSlY0HsNrahQLHXSoG2pY+asQeopF2wi3hRA7oXTOnsNl5z6 UuXwtp6e9e9aHAkMoq+vKTI+sIgEuQsPlmNMq6iZKPO5lnhfJLIUBO0YoWM9NZou; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=WnzYjt4fAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=PMF4g2laAAAA:8 a=c9eTbBAgAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=zImPrG2YAAAA:8 a=B8CpycrvAAAA:8 a=8U_8BYAIAAAA:20 a=X8lw9rmGAAAA:8 a=3s7lsRHIbmNUDMiv7ToA:9 a=BTLQRdBOco9YPjpzHjl78yfEvdIA:4 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001101c9ea9b$41ca7eb0$3ced3547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:48:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Hey G, >Do I get a decoder ring? Only if you go the software route! :) >>I can tap in a loop that is pretty accurate for most uses. >Oh. Are you saying it has tap tempo? that depends on what you call tap tempo. The 2880 works like this: Tap to start recording and tap to stop recording and begin playback. This is in non quantize mode unsynced. This is the way i use it. this is what I call tap tempo. It works just like the DL 4 in many ways in this mode. If you need the manual I have a pdf. As a slave in quantize it's the same thing only you press the drum machine start after arming the 2880 to start recording then the 2880 button to set the lenght of the loop and begin playback. I find it virtually impossible to flub a loops timing while quantized in slave mode. >the ability to store and retrieve loops - rather than a delay pedal with a >looper, if >you see what I mean. I see what you mean but this is not my thing. I never play the same thing twice and can't repeat anything I have ever done exactly. I have basic themes or variations that i come back to. Maybe what you need is the software route. Hopefully some of the lappys will chime in here. The 2880 will only save one loop on each card. It can have up to 4 tracks and a mixdown, etc but this is erased when you press new loop. Some of the "phrase sampler" type loopers can save multiple loops (Digi Jamman) but are not midi. Best of luck on all you do, Jeff Out here in the Great Beyond, everything is strange. The sooner you get used to that, the better off you'll be. Allen Steele Galaxy Blues http://jeffduke.org/ http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://virb.com/jeffduke http://www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://www.justin.tv/loopslab http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 11 14:28:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8ED743BE7E; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+CqLRrYMrSi18Se2g1hKn/6cfFMM5atF4o9qZHkCs0w=; b=qez//GADWN/WNBumxo1ssIDyd4Dyd4Zv6TQuJsiL1mSdqs7jy9y9bOYUcmIhjXGpbr K4GmKi+78Wyv0a3uAvvSvX+55p/vZAlzc6D3IjVdsjMx7eF7Pqem87FNm/mkiOXMTKwe 0E/aOhKCtuNCzn8Px4NCptao8TXoGad7JoY7I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ZgTgcUQiq26G/kfaOr8dYRDtjZkrptYEYEc3DP5hM7aK4BCreOSP/aBouNXuWhlATH y+QE9fK7IPuyYPWen5myV+SZbMwE1DzuXAxgvoUkpawe2nZp5XaaF6PRW+nkctcLsMID 4wI+55rJEUNWHfsfFknbkf6x7Zet1Xmw1f5xU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:28:13 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: OT: Help! Need advice about HP and Firewire Audio. From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:28:14 +0000 (UTC) I've been up and down the ol' information superhighway and I can't for the life of me find anything on this, so I'm hoping a LDer might be able to shed some light on this for me. I'm seriously considering transitioning my Toshiba laptop to become a general use computer and replacing it with a decent, but budget priced desktop PC. In my search HP keeps coming up as decently priced and featured. One of the features they seem to have is on board Firewire. The problem is my MOTU 828 recommends only using the Firewire cards with a TI chipset. I can't find anything about the HPs that mention what chipset they use. I've written and called and got no response from their sales dept. (way to go HP!) Anyway, has anyone had success using recent HP desktop machines with firewire audio? Should I not care and just get any computer and install a Firewire card? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 11 15:00:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E30F3BE80; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:00:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: richard sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906100310v7d326bbbl6f133a078fbb3c74@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-137243195 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT: Weird, weird drum machine from Sweden Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:00:15 -0700 References: <66f9cc1e0906100310v7d326bbbl6f133a078fbb3c74@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:00:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-137243195 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey! I LOVE IT! I have a drum machine like that. A true, multi tasking, hyper analogue, durable piece of studio equipment. They say if you wait long enough & persevere with your own sense of good taste (and knowledge of what's right), high fashion will eventually come around to do things your way. Thanks, Per! R richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On Jun 10, 2009, at 3:10 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I know the drum machine used in this video is Swedish but what's the > language of the web site? I mean, where in the world are folks using > such a weird drum machine? > > http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094 > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com --Apple-Mail-1-137243195 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey! I LOVE = IT!

I have a drum machine like that. A true, = multi tasking, hyper analogue, durable piece of studio = equipment.

They say if you wait&nbs= p;long enough & persevere with your own sense of good = taste (and knowledge of what's = right), high fashion will eventually come ar= ound to do things your way.

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On Jun 10, 2009, at 3:10 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

I = know the drum machine used in this video is Swedish but what's = the
language of the web site? I mean, where in the world are folks = using
such a weird drum machine?

http://fschnell.net/WordP= ress/?p=3D1094

Greetings from Sweden

Per = Boysen
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richard sales
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= --Apple-Mail-1-137243195-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 11 16:06:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E82F33BE7E; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A312B89.1080403@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:06:33 -0700 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Gig spam - Bay Area tonight w/Matt Davignon References: <4A300E23.6060101@mhorse.com> <92fd0d6e639dcf242c3ef8d269cf3f67@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <92fd0d6e639dcf242c3ef8d269cf3f67@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the good wishes Ted and Jim! Matt and I had a really great set last night. I had a number of people ask me afterwards how long we'd been playing together, though it was only the second time we've done this, which was rather nice to hear. can't wait for tonight, Ted! hitting the road now. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Daryl, > > Break a pick or a string or something (rather than a leg) tonight. > > Say "hi" to Matt for me too. > > See you tomorrow night. > > Best. > > Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 11 16:42:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D6203BE80; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:42:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:42:26 -0500 Subject: RE: Help! Need advice about HP and Firewire Audio. Thread-Topic: Help! Need advice about HP and Firewire Audio. Thread-Index: AcnqoNy31PQIwsAqQZyZdT90s8cZWwAEn8Lw Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3BCC217@barq.sailpoint.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ninja-pim: Scanned by Ninja x-ninja-attachmentfiltering: (no action) acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:42:30 +0000 (UTC) > The problem is my MOTU 828 recommends only using the Firewire cards > with a TI chipset. I can't find anything about the HPs that mention > what chipset they use. I've written and called and got no response > from their sales dept. (way to go HP!) If you can locate the machine you're considering at Best Buy or whatever big box computer stores you have around you, bring up Control Panel, select Device Manager, and open the tree node that says "IEEE 1394 Bus host controllers". You should see something like this. RICOH OCHI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller In my case I have a new Lenovo laptop that apparently has the feared and maligned Ricoh chipset. This is my work laptop, I've never used it for audio so I can't say how it works. If you see "Texas Instruments" instead of RICOH then you should be okay. One of my daughters has a small form factor HP that's a year or two old and it apparently has=20 an Agere chipset, I don't know anything about those. My audio desktop is a Gateway, strangely enough it has two 1394 controllers= , one of them Texas Instruments and the other a name I forget. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 11 17:28:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B074D3BE7E; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:28:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7fQwNtFpKz0YOBeWHoyDPduv0H28+wM03vplvzZ+2D8=; b=ErR9BRz+88MAnOTpfXynbjAsbclOnX7hN9+lYx0c10i/IovMeP5wd3aRkuVVid045W Xsq5np4T4YTxogG13/QgG9EQAmpSBRc65VCGp4hb7fhdqk9uayAiQjw2q6rLmUauW7Zv Z0kDzpRaxlUxq6Ybpm/Vdk2SNTeJxLFZZmGPM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CKrW0zAqvb0CTEV+bkcNYkJBPPq9aa12rRxNYHLjLnw6YtxeUEDJkW/pl3se+QUrad eKrjZXUulGckoQylOLvBuV4Y4kcozxhsIK9FSURlqD4zHCABl16zSvtRaUl0GzVYyxdD 0ikGudPyTWsdk28LW9YMbL4FrK81X2EamlEUY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3BCC217@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3BCC217@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:28:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Help! Need advice about HP and Firewire Audio. From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-8CdHC.A.reD.C7TMKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:28:34 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the info. I will stop at Fry's and give that a shot. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Jeff Larson wro= te: >> The problem is my MOTU 828 recommends only using the Firewire cards >> with a TI chipset. =A0I can't find anything about the HPs that mention >> what chipset they use. =A0I've written and called and got no response >> from their sales dept. (way to go HP!) > > If you can locate the machine you're considering at Best Buy or > whatever big box computer stores you have around you, bring up Control > Panel, select Device Manager, and open the tree node that says "IEEE > 1394 Bus host controllers". > > You should see something like this. > > =A0 =A0RICOH OCHI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller > > In my case I have a new Lenovo laptop that apparently has the feared > and maligned Ricoh chipset. =A0This is my work laptop, I've never used > it for audio so I can't say how it works. =A0If you see "Texas Instrument= s" > instead of RICOH then you should be okay. =A0One of my daughters has a > small form factor HP that's a year or two old and it apparently has > an Agere chipset, I don't know anything about those. > > My audio desktop is a Gateway, strangely enough it has two 1394 controlle= rs, one of them Texas Instruments and the other a name I forget. > > Jeff > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 11 17:42:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFAA33BE78; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:42:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=y7F6wWnycgwp/FMNBLPaHKVxNyoI4SMC5bBCcY0O9xk=; b=L/rKRZZDU8HChD+6Tpkl439kIIXVctWsF/9QgQFD3X7vACbrI+iSpGb0HYP7ZNpKBa E7thZvIv6C96nm6QcfI96Z+89vE02ieQLSBx1+fNFl1E7OAJ8Cw4PHU2LckfSBcZzyKG dWK7i8rRNpZjiNJY6M3PdLQl+4HDx3qfIGY50= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TCkSYKOQgpYJmGhing1FfnGnVFuMBVVpBNPHkj6ZBUj2PZZ/mg+4ClIoGpBRUYiXCB 3tRNfi/Yixi6T3BoN9yqjZFgskbY8HHxQMK9lsSeWZpQARhGGMeScPd3CHETlFYFqIBR gnI4s9mmmfNtMB5akO1dByg5S0VxG9+Ezs48k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3BCC217@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:42:26 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Help! Need advice about HP and Firewire Audio. From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:42:26 +0000 (UTC) Oh, btw, Agere is evedently good as well... from MOTU's site: "If the FireWire installer warns you that you're running a FireWire card with the NEC chip, you should replace said card with a card that uses the TI (Texas Instruments) or LSI (formlery Lucent/Agere) chip." So there's that. The good news is that the computer I'm currently working on is an HP and it reports that it is using the TI chipset. Thanks again. This really saved the day. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Mark Sottilaro wr= ote: > Thanks for the info. =A0I will stop at Fry's and give that a shot. > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Jeff Larson w= rote: >>> The problem is my MOTU 828 recommends only using the Firewire cards >>> with a TI chipset. =A0I can't find anything about the HPs that mention >>> what chipset they use. =A0I've written and called and got no response >>> from their sales dept. (way to go HP!) >> >> If you can locate the machine you're considering at Best Buy or >> whatever big box computer stores you have around you, bring up Control >> Panel, select Device Manager, and open the tree node that says "IEEE >> 1394 Bus host controllers". >> >> You should see something like this. >> >> =A0 =A0RICOH OCHI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller >> >> In my case I have a new Lenovo laptop that apparently has the feared >> and maligned Ricoh chipset. =A0This is my work laptop, I've never used >> it for audio so I can't say how it works. =A0If you see "Texas Instrumen= ts" >> instead of RICOH then you should be okay. =A0One of my daughters has a >> small form factor HP that's a year or two old and it apparently has >> an Agere chipset, I don't know anything about those. >> >> My audio desktop is a Gateway, strangely enough it has two 1394 controll= ers, one of them Texas Instruments and the other a name I forget. >> >> Jeff >> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 11 18:00:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A20A3BE80; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6oqcUhDh4v9gbvyYi+1ardidWv2ZRgmnbulj7D07COA=; b=wBE6MXLYKfXQ8fwAdcFQLJTdoz1lPasqlbj285z2C21Q5UvY5aEio3uhPNLs3zv7pI 755SClIOIgKfIl8/xDYPjeXXibTLDuK6wITgloRrHCv0LZXcye7cpUwwd0tRMTco2L3H VvwsaBoh9Hr7/+cWTtgG2wg1BjrsNmUvfwmKY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gALQB8xsvJ19wMOXf2ukVB+AVava5ijwtv78LoUG6Dj9NSXKrYNUNw0QjMacNlMCj9 L/j7l6IW6HJHshBm7amFHB2/S38fkeXdl24Qa/5sq9TZQEtElQAmvHN/oPic09Jx5SC5 oDAHTEem7L3qg3WCM/xRzXhe83cOAJXlohlRk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0906091257o16819218j48eb708d3a13a3c4@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F6A7B.9030505@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:00:06 -0400 Message-ID: <2871c3a90906111100w6ef0f6cas6bc9c203185846c8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Hi Fro, Did you build in a rack mount case? I've thinking of building one of those= . Sylvain On 6/10/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Hm, that's not far off from what a prebuilt machine with those specs > would cost me and that's not even thinking about the cost of buying > Windows if you build it yourself. > > I checked out that company... confusing. They have so many types... > I'd want one that could be installed over my 22" Samsung LCD. > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:00 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote= : > > good luck man! > > > > i built a dual core 2.6 w/ 4 gig ram 128 mb video- TI instrument firewi= re > > card -200gig HD - for $500- newegg and ebay > > > > whatever route you go, definitly get a TI firewire card (if u use firew= ire), > > it makes all the difference in the world- > > > > please understand that micro atx is a form factor for CPU cases and has > > nothign to do with the touch screen- > > > > the best touchscreen company is elo (elotouch.com)- > > > > i believe they make a product that you can install over any monitor to > > convert it to touch, but i bought an open frame model that includes the= lcd > > monitor and the touchscreen off ebay- > > > > goodluck > > fro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:40:07 -0700 > >> Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications > >> From: zerocrossing@gmail.com > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> > >> I think I'm about to ditch the laptop as well. The older I get the > >> less I care about leaving the house for gigs and frankly at this point > >> who am I kidding? The laptop I bought for gigging or occasional > >> visits to friends for a jam has left my home a total zero times. > >> > >> Now my general use/surfing laptop is DEAD. I'm thinking that rather > >> than replace it the money would be better spent on replacing my music > >> laptop with a desktop and relegating the old music laptop for general > >> use. > >> > >> I'm just thinking of getting the best HP desktop I can afford (which > >> is probably only around $600) as a bunch of my friends basically said, > >> "10 years ago build saved you money and hassle. Now it just buys you > >> pain." This is a guy who's a high level IT guy too. > >> > >> But your touchscreen micro axt... that sounds juicy. Can you tell > >> more about it? I can't seem to find much info on DYI touch screens > >> and from what I can tell getting the HP with it built in doubles the > >> price. > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:14 AM, FRO DIDDLY wr= ote: > >> > not sure how late i am, but in concerns to the acer laptops, i calle= d > >> > about > >> > 6 months ago and they did not use TI chipsets in any computers anymo= re- > >> > > >> > in my adventure to find a perfect laptop, i bought 2 dells and retur= ned > >> > them > >> > both - for what its worth the business class model performed much be= tter > >> > than the consumer lvl garbage... > >> > > >> > i ended up wth a macbook pro running bootcamp.... which worked well > >> > since > >> > mobius is a very resource friendly program- > >> > but from my experience, running windows progrms in bootcamp is notic= ably > >> > slower than an equivenlent machine running windows os > >> > > >> > i now ditched the mac and built a micro atx PC with a touchscreen > >> > monitor - > >> > =3DD....farewell laptop loopers! ;o) > >> > > >> > fro > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:10:35 +0100 > >> >> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > >> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> >> Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications > >> >> > >> >> The info appears to be in the Device Manager, > >> >> on XP at least. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Mark Sottilaro wrote: > >> >> > But what if the manufacturer doesn't state what one they use? > >> >> > Confusing... why can't we all just get along? ;) > >> >> > > >> >> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Rainer > >> >> > Straschill wrote: > >> >> >>> Has anyone had any experience with the newer Acer laptops > >> >> >> A friend of mine (not audio-conscious, but IT professional and > >> >> >> reseller) has them in his shortlist together with Samsung. > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> and I keep hearing that not all Firewire chipsets do well with > >> >> >>> audio. > >> >> >> It's relatively simple. There are two mass-produced IEEE1394 > >> >> >> chipsets > >> >> >> - by TI and Ricoh respectivle. The TI is good, the Ricoh is not. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Rainer > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. See how. > >> > > > > ________________________________ > > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. See how. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 11 18:26:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5077F3BE78; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:26:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2d91872b-0699-4af3-81a2-2443cb390585_" X-Originating-IP: [99.195.149.49] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: RE: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:26:20 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2871c3a90906111100w6ef0f6cas6bc9c203185846c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0906091257o16819218j48eb708d3a13a3c4@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F6A7B.9030505@tiscali.co.uk> <2871c3a90906111100w6ef0f6cas6bc9c203185846c8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2009 18:26:20.0922 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E45DDA0:01C9EAC2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:26:22 +0000 (UTC) --_2d91872b-0699-4af3-81a2-2443cb390585_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable not a rackmout case=2C but a regular slimline case in its own rack suspende= d by foam =3DD > Date: Thu=2C 11 Jun 2009 14:00:06 -0400 > Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications > From: sylvain.trombone@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hi Fro=2C > Did you build in a rack mount case? I've thinking of building one of tho= se. > Sylvain >=20 >=20 > On 6/10/09=2C Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > Hm=2C that's not far off from what a prebuilt machine with those specs > > would cost me and that's not even thinking about the cost of buying > > Windows if you build it yourself. > > > > I checked out that company... confusing. They have so many types... > > I'd want one that could be installed over my 22" Samsung LCD. > > > > On Wed=2C Jun 10=2C 2009 at 2:00 PM=2C FRO DIDDLY wrote: > > > good luck man! > > > > > > i built a dual core 2.6 w/ 4 gig ram 128 mb video- TI instrument fire= wire > > > card -200gig HD - for $500- newegg and ebay > > > > > > whatever route you go=2C definitly get a TI firewire card (if u use f= irewire)=2C > > > it makes all the difference in the world- > > > > > > please understand that micro atx is a form factor for CPU cases and h= as > > > nothign to do with the touch screen- > > > > > > the best touchscreen company is elo (elotouch.com)- > > > > > > i believe they make a product that you can install over any monitor t= o > > > convert it to touch=2C but i bought an open frame model that includes= the lcd > > > monitor and the touchscreen off ebay- > > > > > > goodluck > > > fro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Wed=2C 10 Jun 2009 13:40:07 -0700 > > >> Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications > > >> From: zerocrossing@gmail.com > > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > >> > > >> I think I'm about to ditch the laptop as well. The older I get the > > >> less I care about leaving the house for gigs and frankly at this poi= nt > > >> who am I kidding? The laptop I bought for gigging or occasional > > >> visits to friends for a jam has left my home a total zero times. > > >> > > >> Now my general use/surfing laptop is DEAD. I'm thinking that rather > > >> than replace it the money would be better spent on replacing my musi= c > > >> laptop with a desktop and relegating the old music laptop for genera= l > > >> use. > > >> > > >> I'm just thinking of getting the best HP desktop I can afford (which > > >> is probably only around $600) as a bunch of my friends basically sai= d=2C > > >> "10 years ago build saved you money and hassle. Now it just buys you > > >> pain." This is a guy who's a high level IT guy too. > > >> > > >> But your touchscreen micro axt... that sounds juicy. Can you tell > > >> more about it? I can't seem to find much info on DYI touch screens > > >> and from what I can tell getting the HP with it built in doubles the > > >> price. > > >> > > >> On Wed=2C Jun 10=2C 2009 at 1:14 AM=2C FRO DIDDLY wrote: > > >> > not sure how late i am=2C but in concerns to the acer laptops=2C i= called > > >> > about > > >> > 6 months ago and they did not use TI chipsets in any computers any= more- > > >> > > > >> > in my adventure to find a perfect laptop=2C i bought 2 dells and r= eturned > > >> > them > > >> > both - for what its worth the business class model performed much = better > > >> > than the consumer lvl garbage... > > >> > > > >> > i ended up wth a macbook pro running bootcamp.... which worked wel= l > > >> > since > > >> > mobius is a very resource friendly program- > > >> > but from my experience=2C running windows progrms in bootcamp is n= oticably > > >> > slower than an equivenlent machine running windows os > > >> > > > >> > i now ditched the mac and built a micro atx PC with a touchscreen > > >> > monitor - > > >> > =3DD....farewell laptop loopers! =3Bo) > > >> > > > >> > fro > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> Date: Wed=2C 10 Jun 2009 09:10:35 +0100 > > >> >> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > > >> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > >> >> Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications > > >> >> > > >> >> The info appears to be in the Device Manager=2C > > >> >> on XP at least. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > >> >> > But what if the manufacturer doesn't state what one they use? > > >> >> > Confusing... why can't we all just get along? =3B) > > >> >> > > > >> >> > On Tue=2C Jun 9=2C 2009 at 12:57 PM=2C Rainer > > >> >> > Straschill wrote: > > >> >> >>> Has anyone had any experience with the newer Acer laptops > > >> >> >> A friend of mine (not audio-conscious=2C but IT professional a= nd > > >> >> >> reseller) has them in his shortlist together with Samsung. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >>> and I keep hearing that not all Firewire chipsets do well wit= h > > >> >> >>> audio. > > >> >> >> It's relatively simple. There are two mass-produced IEEE1394 > > >> >> >> chipsets > > >> >> >> - by TI and Ricoh respectivle. The TI is good=2C the Ricoh is = not. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Rainer > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > ________________________________ > > >> > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. See how. > > >> > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. See how. > > > > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that=92s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=3Dftp_val_wl_290= --_2d91872b-0699-4af3-81a2-2443cb390585_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable not a rackmout case=2C but a regular slimline case in its own rack suspende= d by foam =3DD

>=3B Date: Thu=2C 11 Jun 2009 1= 4:00:06 -0400
>=3B Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio = applications
>=3B From: sylvain.trombone@gmail.com
>=3B To: Loope= rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B Hi Fro=2C
>=3B Did= you build in a rack mount case? I've thinking of building one of those.>=3B Sylvain
>=3B
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>=3B On 6/10/09=2C Mark Sottila= ro <=3Bzerocrossing@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B Hm=2C that's = not far off from what a prebuilt machine with those specs
>=3B >=3B = would cost me and that's not even thinking about the cost of buying
>= =3B >=3B Windows if you build it yourself.
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>=3B >= =3B I checked out that company... confusing. They have so many types...>=3B >=3B I'd want one that could be installed over my 22" Samsung LCD= .
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>=3B >=3B On Wed=2C Jun 10=2C 2009 at 2:00 PM=2C = FRO DIDDLY<=3Bparispro00@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B >=3B= good luck man!
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>=3B >=3B >=3B i built a d= ual core 2.6 w/ 4 gig ram 128 mb video- TI instrument firewire
>=3B &g= t=3B >=3B card -200gig HD - for $500- newegg and ebay
>=3B >=3B &= gt=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B whatever route you go=2C definitly get a TI f= irewire card (if u use firewire)=2C
>=3B >=3B >=3B it makes all th= e difference in the world-
>=3B >=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B = please understand that micro atx is a form factor for CPU cases and has
= >=3B >=3B >=3B nothign to do with the touch screen-
>=3B >=3B = >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B the best touchscreen company is elo (elotouc= h.com)-
>=3B >=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B i believe they make= a product that you can install over any monitor to
>=3B >=3B >=3B= convert it to touch=2C but i bought an open frame model that includes the = lcd
>=3B >=3B >=3B monitor and the touchscreen off ebay-
>=3B= >=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B goodluck
>=3B >=3B >=3B fro=
>=3B >=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B
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&g= t=3B >=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B Date: Wed=2C 10 Jun 2009 1= 3:40:07 -0700
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B Subject: Re: notebook non-recom= mendation for audio applications
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B From: zerocr= ossing@gmail.com
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-= delight.com
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B I t= hink I'm about to ditch the laptop as well. The older I get the
>=3B &= gt=3B >=3B>=3B less I care about leaving the house for gigs and frankly= at this point
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B who am I kidding? The laptop I= bought for gigging or occasional
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B visits to f= riends for a jam has left my home a total zero times.
>=3B >=3B >= =3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B Now my general use/surfing laptop i= s DEAD. I'm thinking that rather
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B than replace= it the money would be better spent on replacing my music
>=3B >=3B = >=3B>=3B laptop with a desktop and relegating the old music laptop for = general
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B use.
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B I'm just thinking of getting the best HP deskto= p I can afford (which
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B is probably only around= $600) as a bunch of my friends basically said=2C
>=3B >=3B >=3B&g= t=3B "10 years ago build saved you money and hassle. Now it just buys you>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B pain." This is a guy who's a high level IT guy= too.
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B But your = touchscreen micro axt... that sounds juicy. Can you tell
>=3B >=3B &= gt=3B>=3B more about it? I can't seem to find much info on DYI touch scre= ens
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B and from what I can tell getting the HP w= ith it built in doubles the
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B price.
>=3B = >=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B On Wed=2C Jun 10=2C 2009 = at 1:14 AM=2C FRO DIDDLY<=3Bparispro00@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B= >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B not sure how late i am=2C but in concerns to th= e acer laptops=2C i called
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B about
&g= t=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B 6 months ago and they did not use TI chipse= ts in any computers anymore-
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B= >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B in my adventure to find a perfect laptop=2C i b= ought 2 dells and returned
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B them
>= =3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B both - for what its worth the business class= model performed much better
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B than the = consumer lvl garbage...
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B i ended up wth a macbook pro running bootcamp.... w= hich worked well
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B since
>=3B >= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B mobius is a very resource friendly program-
>= =3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B but from my experience=2C running windows pr= ogrms in bootcamp is noticably
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B slower = than an equivenlent machine running windows os
>=3B >=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B i now ditched the mac and b= uilt a micro atx PC with a touchscreen
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B= monitor -
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B =3DD....farewell laptop loo= pers! =3Bo)
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B fro
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B= >=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B&= gt=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B&g= t=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B Date: Wed=2C 10 Jun = 2009 09:10:35 +0100
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B From: akbutl= er@tiscali.co.uk
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B To: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B Subject= : Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications
>=3B >=3B &= gt=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B The inf= o appears to be in the Device Manager=2C
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B>=3B on XP at least.
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>= =3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B&g= t=3B Mark Sottilaro wrote:
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B But what if the manufacturer doesn't state what one they use?
>=3B= >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B Confusing... why can't we all just= get along? =3B)
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>= =3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B On Tue=2C Jun 9=2C 2009 at 12:5= 7 PM=2C Rainer
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B Straschill= <=3Bmoinsound@googlemail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B &= gt=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B Has anyone had any experience with the newer= Acer laptops
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B A fri= end of mine (not audio-conscious=2C but IT professional and
>=3B >= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B reseller) has them in his shortl= ist together with Samsung.
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B and= I keep hearing that not all Firewire chipsets do well with
>=3B >= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B audio.
>=3B >=3B &g= t=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B It's relatively simple. There are two = mass-produced IEEE1394
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>= =3B chipsets
>=3B >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B - by T= I and Ricoh respectivle. The TI is good=2C the Ricoh is not.
>=3B >= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
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Find the PC that=92= s right for you. = --_2d91872b-0699-4af3-81a2-2443cb390585_-- From mrpatthomas@ymail.com Thu Jun 11 20:20:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 944 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:20:37 UTC Received: from mail.wsbrm.com (mail.wsbrm.com [12.27.227.34]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C073BE77; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:20:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([41.223.251.88]) by mail.wsbrm.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:06:28 -0700 Reply-To: < mrparrah@gmail.com> From: "Mr Pat Thomas" Subject: GOOD NEWS Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:03:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2009 20:06:40.0062 (UTC) FILETIME=[21F5BDE0:01C9EAD0] To: undisclosed-recipients:; DEAR FRIEND, GOOD DAY, REGARDS TO YOUR CONSIGNMENT , HAVE YOU RECEIVE YOUR FUNDS?I FINALLY SUCCEED WITH YOUR FUNDS WHICH IS PRESENTLY IN UNITED STATES OF AMERICA RIGHT NOW, WITH THE DIPLOMATIC AGENT AND I WILL ADVISE YOU TO GET BACK TO ME ON HOW YOU WILL RECEIVE IT IN HOME WITHOUT ANY DELAY OR PROBLEM. 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From s.og013@msn.com Thu Jun 11 20:23:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 321 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:23:49 UTC Received: from blu0-omc2-s26.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s26.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.101]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5D43BE77 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:23:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU105-W24 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s26.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:18:15 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_a58b4ff5-7a65-432e-b213-738509ee0f40_" X-Originating-IP: [41.189.97.156] Reply-To: From: Sikeme Ogbeide Subject: From: Ms Sikeme Ogbeide Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:18:15 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2009 20:18:15.0917 (UTC) FILETIME=[C0B8C9D0:01C9EAD1] To: undisclosed-recipients:; --_a58b4ff5-7a65-432e-b213-738509ee0f40_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_37a46825-940b-4ed0-b00e-9c460b85d51a_" --_37a46825-940b-4ed0-b00e-9c460b85d51a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Ms Sikeme Ogbeide =20 Dearest One=2C My Dear=2C please do not be upset due to the mail i sent to you=2C also bec= ause we have not met before but i know that we do not meet accidentally=2C = rather i meet you by the special grace of God when i found your profile ema= il address and after praying=2C i just hand over everything to Gods hand be= lieving that you must be a kind=2C sincere=2C faithful and understandable p= erson whom will understand me and assist me in this my current situation.=20 =20 Let me start by giving you an introduction of my self and my family backgro= und.=20 My real name is Miss Sikeme Ogbeide. I was born and brought up in Cote d'iv= oire on 03 march 1988 ( im 21 yrs old ) . Also i am the only surviving daug= hter parents. My mumy's name is Dr. Mrs. Gloria Bintu Ogbeide. My mum died = when i was four years old ( 12th dec 1992 ) and since then my dady took me = so special.=20 My Dady was a forma Senator here he was a well known wealthy cocoa merchant= before he went into politics and was elected into the senate seat=2C becau= se he was well know good man here. That also made him not to be in a good t= erm with his brothers ( my uncles ). which created a very big enemity betwe= en them. I have severally adviced my dady to send me abroad so that his ene= mies may not seek for me to kill or wound in order to wecked my dad=2C but = my dady refused saying that he needs me to stay with him due to that i am t= he only family he has.=20 =20 But unfortunately=2C My dady was killed last year when he attended a ceremo= ny in the village. he was brutaly killed and was shut severally by my uncle= s on his way back from a conference. but he do not die instantly and was ad= mited in a private hospital here and Before the death of my father in a pri= vate hospital here in Abidjan he secretly called me on his bed side and tol= d me that he has the sum of ten million=2Ceight hundred thousand United Sta= te Dollars.USD($18=2C700=2C000.00) left in fixed / suspense account in one = of the prime bank here in Abidjan=2Cthat he used my name as his only daught= er for the next of Kin in depositing of the fund. He also explained to me t= hat it was because of this wealth that he was shut by his brothers (my uncl= es).=20 That I should seek for a foreign partner in a country of my choice where i = will transfer this money and use it for investment purpose such as real est= ate management or hotel management so that i can secure my life too and be = out from my uncles for my dear life .=20 Right now I am stranded and have ran out from the city to a nearby village = because my uncles have turned out trying to eliminate me too because they w= anted to inherrit all hat my dady has. but thank God i found one pastor Mic= hael whom have been of a good assistance to me. He accommodated me in his c= hurch when i explained everything to him=2C and was giving me a finnancial = accomodation till i finds a patner overseas whom will help me to transfer m= y inherritance abroad while i travels to join him and start up a new life. = So my dear i am seeking your assistance in the following ways:=20 =20 1) To help me transfer this fund to your country because i have discused wi= th the bank about my intensions to transfer my inherritance abroad which th= ey have accepted.=20 2) to serve as a guardian of this fund since i am only 21yrs old.=20 3) To make arrangement for me to come over to your country to further my ed= ucation and to secure a resident permit in your country.=20 =20 Moreover=2C My dear I am willing to offer you 15% of the total sum as compe= nsation for your effort/input after the successful transfer of this fund in= to your nominated account overseas.=20 Furthermore=2C you indicate your options towards assisting me as I believe = that this transaction would be concluded within fourteen (14) days you sign= ify interest to assist me. =20 I am looking foward to your hopeful respond and may God be with you.=20 =20 =20 Yours Sincerely=2C =20 Sikeme Ogbeide. --_37a46825-940b-4ed0-b00e-9c460b85d51a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Ms Sikeme Ogbeide
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Dearest One=2C
My Dear=2C please do not be upset due to the mail i sent to you=2C also bec= ause we have not met before but i know that we do not meet accidentally=2C = rather i meet you by the special grace of God when i found your profile ema= il address and after praying=2C i just hand over everything to Gods hand be= lieving that you must be a kind=2C sincere=2C faithful and understandable p= erson whom will understand me and assist me in this my current situation. <= BR> =3B
Let me start by giving you an introduction of my self and my= family background.
My real name is Miss Sikeme Ogbeide. I was born and= brought up in Cote d'ivoire on 03 march 1988 ( im 21 yrs old ) . Also i am= the only surviving daughter parents. My mumy's name is Dr. Mrs. Gloria Bin= tu Ogbeide. My mum died when i was four years old ( 12th dec 1992 ) and sin= ce then my dady took me so special.
My Dady was a forma Senator here he was a well known wealthy cocoa merchant= before he went into politics and was elected into the senate seat=2C becau= se he was well know good man here. That also made him not to be in a good t= erm with his brothers ( my uncles ). which created a very big enemity betwe= en them. I have severally adviced my dady to send me abroad so that his ene= mies may not seek for me to kill or wound in order to wecked my dad=2C but = my dady refused saying that he needs me to stay with him due to that i am t= he only family he has.
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But unfortunately=2C My dady was kil= led last year when he attended a ceremony in the village. he was brutaly ki= lled and was shut severally by my uncles on his way back from a conference.= but he do not die instantly and was admited in a private hospital here and= Before the death of my father in a private hospital here in Abidjan he sec= retly called me on his bed side and told me that he has the sum of ten mill= ion=2Ceight hundred thousand United State Dollars.USD($18=2C700=2C000.00) l= eft in fixed / suspense account in one of the prime bank here in Abidjan=2C= that he used my name as his only daughter for the next of Kin in depositing= of the fund. He also explained to me that it was because of this wealth th= at he was shut by his brothers (my uncles).
That I should seek for a foreign partner in a country of my choice where i = will transfer this money and use it for investment purpose such as real est= ate management or hotel management so that i can secure my life too and be = out from my uncles for my dear life .
Right now I am stranded and have = ran out from the city to a nearby village because my uncles have turned out= trying to eliminate me too because they wanted to inherrit all hat my dady= has. but thank God i found one pastor Michael whom have been of a good ass= istance to me. He accommodated me in his church when i explained everything= to him=2C and was giving me a finnancial accomodation till i finds a patne= r overseas whom will help me to transfer my inherritance abroad while i tra= vels to join him and start up a new life. So my dear i am seeking your assi= stance in the following ways:
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1) To help me transfer this f= und to your country because i have discused with the bank about my intensio= ns to transfer my inherritance abroad which they have accepted.
2) to s= erve as a guardian of this fund since i am only 21yrs old.
3) To make a= rrangement for me to come over to your country to further my education and = to secure a resident permit in your country.
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Moreover=2C My= dear I am willing to offer you 15% of the total sum as compensation for yo= ur effort/input after the successful transfer of this fund into your nomina= ted account overseas.
Furthermore=2C you indicate your options towards assisting me as I believe = that this transaction would be concluded within fourteen (14) days you sign= ify interest to assist me.
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I am looking foward to your hopef= ul respond and may God be with you.
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Yours Since= rely=2C
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Sikeme Ogbeide.
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 11 21:06:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EE2A3BE7F; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1244754398; bh=1lLI8V/k6Lf4hHnjPGBA32PN7h84DJAJNa0BlrOOmPU=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=Rer9GARSbgM1cCWX2a9kte6Hvhg0mtduKeSAoh0+B3a47sYJW7g6kzntDJPQoJ0dC SIyBgBf3AruuLfOSVHtjHf78nuOiuYBURk5R9DOjerDDjlm1OHS8vgjVj1oWzWzg1g IFiDlXHvOTCSxBBNBNwTxtcCMEKJ6OUib+HqfZdM= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and Crossfade Loop Synth (was RE: Antwerp Loopfest - video) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:06:15 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c9ead8$75d022e0$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcnqZ6eHMTYCnU9KQYamdNhNQT1yzwAaO6Ug In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Os and Per, Thanks for the explanation regarding the looping/delay features. I've = been playing with Crossfade Loop Synth in Mainstage yesterday and got it = working once I turned on the record and the 3 drone buttons. I especially liked = the drone feature and Per: I suppose this is what you mean by "having three instances of Augustus Loop all in overdub mode and set to different = pitch shift"? Btw: the manual says "You can play notes from the effect over MIDI, = assuming your host application supports this (not all hosts allow passing notes = to effects, only to synths)." I think that Mainstage is 1 of them because I can't get this feature to work. Or?=20 Anyway, another very cool plugin :) ---=20 Sjaak - "The Flying Dutchman" http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20 http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 11 21:21:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B01BB3BE7F; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=twSY/nn2suBTndVDdRHCIK4P7rq7V0KUPUUv4enmzmU=; b=HpJ9Q1qQr5jCoa4JLEI5+iE47PH7BLJKm7KL5OYj7+I4ix1WTnqTqQ+QmvgJjENVvk a7dq5+49uqhQ5GBOWdqNs9VgReNvo1l54b8BP8k5Fc7ZK9YeNtzoDCZcE5gDHYYouX0c lnxNyWi+jje98k/ZWpMNpT2E+r7kD9knFcwMo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tc2vz0UHXiDLJCe20SqiL3OdEekgPB/zN3FgyLuAaV9rh8Yca+ETLtM9+wZUnzHsiJ S36VtOIFHDaIRX8Mb6wffoE2x+1mNfDKX7tEcVutL4lIId500pmMbZmIF+IyDQw6c4OS dR8uAbNHSsr91ntMNefk5c9glPYxQJq+2Gxe4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000001c9ead8$75d022e0$020313ac@PIPO> References: <000001c9ead8$75d022e0$020313ac@PIPO> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:21:18 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906111421k6f042d63q1e6ebc6519e2e976@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and Crossfade Loop Synth (was RE: Antwerp Loopfest - video) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:21:19 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Sjaak wrote: > I especially liked the > drone feature and Per: I suppose this is what you mean by "having three > instances of Augustus Loop all in overdub mode and set to different pitch > shift"? Yes, Sir! > Btw: the manual says "You can play notes from the effect over MIDI, assuming > your host application supports this (not all hosts allow passing notes to > effects, only to synths)." I think that Mainstage is 1 of them because I > can't get this feature to work. Or? I'm happy to say that I think you are wrong! When trying here now I was actually able to create a new Instrument Patch in Mainstage and open Crossfade Loop Synth as an Instrument. This means it will receive MIDI Note input via the graphic keyboard object just as any other virtual instrument. Maybe the reason you can't get this feature to work is that you have opened X-fade Loop Synth as an effect (in an effect insert slot) rather than as an instrument? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 11 21:30:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E7713BE80; Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:30:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: OT Gig In San Diego Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:30:31 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acnq29kZ/F5umdmtQ/yIQIUHhZFhkw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:30:34 +0000 (UTC) Hey Looper comrades, I'll be taking part in a lecture/performance at the Museum of Making Music in Carlsbad Ca, this Saturday June 13th. http://www.museumofmakingmusic.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id =223&Itemid=3 The program entitled "Harnessing Lightening" which traces the origins of amplified music, will feature a lecture by renown luthier Rick Turner, accompanied by myself and lap steel player Patti Maxine on a variety of vintage and modern instruments including arguably the first electric acoustic guitar, a rare Vivitone made in the 30's by Loyd Loar . After the lecture I'll be doing a short set and discussing my use of looping and signal processing as well. Hope any San Diego based loopers can make it. Thanks Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 00:24:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF97B3BE7C; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:24:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VlQhOzT+JRXK7P7cf9HXeMz62/8dETrj/d5rtcgghHc=; b=A4FzuM3l2+rGNQBY5aIazTPFL5ZBI/O1GLS6VkD0XKrQIeno2R84E8lCmeT5H7fY20 HgZ3N76/FfVyoRmOZA0Ki3JjnkwDeaJ0Gl/WY88CPSrbS1ok1JPYgcsZFSq0UQcUWQYX e1dyP8RdYXO+VPSzSCuk+2t2PEMBT8NSHUi80= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wDRBzosEI+KtY0bPNgDWiwWS058T4y82VTk3/8VTJWMDoBB8BZfRYCcPtaHeo46CPp 5MJvVn1xZj2hPye2++WzYquuESgo7G50j7FKwNtnNJTge1QgcCTsYjUfCX+407DEOUVq ei+CphV0ZLsJG6wEwiXVJerCbTfJXGCLm5Lpk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0906091257o16819218j48eb708d3a13a3c4@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F6A7B.9030505@tiscali.co.uk> <2871c3a90906111100w6ef0f6cas6bc9c203185846c8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:24:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:24:11 +0000 (UTC) pics please... 2009/6/11, FRO DIDDLY : > > not a rackmout case, but a regular slimline case in its own rack suspende= d > by foam =3DD > > > > > > >> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:00:06 -0400 >> Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications >> From: sylvain.trombone@gmail.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Hi Fro, >> Did you build in a rack mount case? I've thinking of building one of >> those. >> Sylvain >> >> >> On 6/10/09, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> > Hm, that's not far off from what a prebuilt machine with those specs >> > would cost me and that's not even thinking about the cost of buying >> > Windows if you build it yourself. >> > >> > I checked out that company... confusing. They have so many types... >> > I'd want one that could be installed over my 22" Samsung LCD. >> > >> > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:00 PM, FRO DIDDLY >> > wrote: >> > > good luck man! >> > > >> > > i built a dual core 2.6 w/ 4 gig ram 128 mb video- TI instrument >> > > firewire >> > > card -200gig HD - for $500- newegg and ebay >> > > >> > > whatever route you go, definitly get a TI firewire card (if u use >> > > firewire), >> > > it makes all the difference in the world- >> > > >> > > please understand that micro atx is a form factor for CPU cases and >> > > has >> > > nothign to do with the touch screen- >> > > >> > > the best touchscreen company is elo (elotouch.com)- >> > > >> > > i believe they make a product that you can install over any monitor = to >> > > convert it to touch, but i bought an open frame model that includes >> > > the lcd >> > > monitor and the touchscreen off ebay- >> > > >> > > goodluck >> > > fro >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:40:07 -0700 >> > >> Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications >> > >> From: zerocrossing@gmail.com >> > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> > >> >> > >> I think I'm about to ditch the laptop as well. The older I get the >> > >> less I care about leaving the house for gigs and frankly at this >> > >> point >> > >> who am I kidding? The laptop I bought for gigging or occasional >> > >> visits to friends for a jam has left my home a total zero times. >> > >> >> > >> Now my general use/surfing laptop is DEAD. I'm thinking that rather >> > >> than replace it the money would be better spent on replacing my mus= ic >> > >> laptop with a desktop and relegating the old music laptop for gener= al >> > >> use. >> > >> >> > >> I'm just thinking of getting the best HP desktop I can afford (whic= h >> > >> is probably only around $600) as a bunch of my friends basically >> > >> said, >> > >> "10 years ago build saved you money and hassle. Now it just buys yo= u >> > >> pain." This is a guy who's a high level IT guy too. >> > >> >> > >> But your touchscreen micro axt... that sounds juicy. Can you tell >> > >> more about it? I can't seem to find much info on DYI touch screens >> > >> and from what I can tell getting the HP with it built in doubles th= e >> > >> price. >> > >> >> > >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:14 AM, FRO DIDDLY >> > >> wrote: >> > >> > not sure how late i am, but in concerns to the acer laptops, i >> > >> > called >> > >> > about >> > >> > 6 months ago and they did not use TI chipsets in any computers >> > >> > anymore- >> > >> > >> > >> > in my adventure to find a perfect laptop, i bought 2 dells and >> > >> > returned >> > >> > them >> > >> > both - for what its worth the business class model performed much >> > >> > better >> > >> > than the consumer lvl garbage... >> > >> > >> > >> > i ended up wth a macbook pro running bootcamp.... which worked we= ll >> > >> > since >> > >> > mobius is a very resource friendly program- >> > >> > but from my experience, running windows progrms in bootcamp is >> > >> > noticably >> > >> > slower than an equivenlent machine running windows os >> > >> > >> > >> > i now ditched the mac and built a micro atx PC with a touchscreen >> > >> > monitor - >> > >> > =3DD....farewell laptop loopers! ;o) >> > >> > >> > >> > fro >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:10:35 +0100 >> > >> >> From: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk >> > >> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> > >> >> Subject: Re: notebook non-recommendation for audio applications >> > >> >> >> > >> >> The info appears to be in the Device Manager, >> > >> >> on XP at least. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> > >> >> > But what if the manufacturer doesn't state what one they use? >> > >> >> > Confusing... why can't we all just get along? ;) >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Rainer >> > >> >> > Straschill wrote: >> > >> >> >>> Has anyone had any experience with the newer Acer laptops >> > >> >> >> A friend of mine (not audio-conscious, but IT professional an= d >> > >> >> >> reseller) has them in his shortlist together with Samsung. >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>> and I keep hearing that not all Firewire chipsets do well wi= th >> > >> >> >>> audio. >> > >> >> >> It's relatively simple. There are two mass-produced IEEE1394 >> > >> >> >> chipsets >> > >> >> >> - by TI and Ricoh respectivle. The TI is good, the Ricoh is >> > >> >> >> not. >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Rainer >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. See how. >> > >> >> > > >> > > ________________________________ >> > > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail=AE. See how. >> > >> > >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that=92s right for you. > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=3Dftp_val_wl_290 --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From hmrc@stgeorgebank.com.au Fri Jun 12 01:16:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 776 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:16:49 UTC Received: from niumidia.it (niumidia.it [195.88.6.195]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092303BE72; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User (62.81.199.20.static.user.ono.com [62.81.199.20]) by mail.niumidia.it (Merak 8.9.1) with ASMTP id THP01441; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:03:41 +0200 Reply-To: From: "St. George Bank" Subject: Your account balance has been changed Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:03:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1081 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1081 Message-Id: <20090612011649.092303BE72@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Dear Customer, Please check your account balance as soon possible! Logon: http://www.stgeorgebank.com.au.st-george-bank.com/InternetBanking/index.html Sincerely, St.George Internet Banking From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 04:29:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 503763BE7E; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MIr0OI9Bkl8cZLL31Ow8MnHWp9dgdcgvHRh8nrq57QE=; b=EvvS4rwY4uOcIQaWMeRlYkjHwhTBW4TQTaLg/Aydvk1r7gy0bIMOcjQ3WhwBgK1Ga+ F9/rMvkQ5K1fJvuNTAAbepq+4WP+Br96JwxhsGy4k8pwOFeLCuUzr92rinXqIkLfA67F 6uLZrZr/RoUHQx7mWGt2q8dZ+bBtbxUxnqGCo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=obXW4Mcp8s4YBZ13vUv5iRp00A8B4l9PfllyTgDbHDUMqusoBvEh6Hh/v06rFbjnVv aJPJuE2Uu+VHpmx3o3CZL4Y+EU6u58RvIz9gLwapunajQ9w8FsPKjWfhLW0vlCQNQmvH UugqrtYi85AsoYx05jd98RGWDYzCyl0C5G7z8= MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jean-Paul De Roover Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:29:36 -0400 Message-ID: <91d8478b0906112129ib57d2e5hd2099eb5093624ae@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Looping at NXNE - Toronto, ON, Canada To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Hello loopers! Just wanted to send out an invitation to any loopers living/visiting Toronto on June 18th. I'm performing at a large music and film festival (NXNE - www.nxne.com) and it'd be great to network with some fellow loopers while there. Here's the info for my showcase: At 'The Painted Lady' - 218 Ossington Ave, Toronto, ON, Canada 5 acts, I'll be performing at either 10 PM or Midnight [scheduling must be difficult, there are 500 acts playing!] Facebook event: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/event.php?eid=108650951095&ref=ts www.myspace.com/jeanpaulderoover www.sonicbids.com/jeanpaulderoover Feel free to email if there are any questions, or if you can't make it to the showcase but would still like to meet up! -- Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 05:30:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18A4E3BE84; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=C4DkuA68et919ZvXGt+NFgGteSeriUasL8PSsgdmS7g=; b=ZLPBFLY5hMhL7dh+L2oWkRNXic2g1iNodwSNRcJBAwPgVK7goSqYDkaCa5jA4S1ZnI 9MqP6cP+IrYJKKXwQYPTRNV+Lt3+BXbwqeEJMcS4FfaqRFP26a9y955mAa5DpkH74+gu 94dz2XGBH0Stry4yfMDnXXo9QGyhi7nS4eFqM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=sZ2at2tyEEMTec3pqA2WK/ff/AuWOG2UdPE3XUCltldUK+EEJUTXWsutQcSlwu1tGy kPXjxSHGAQyx9slrGk9srSgnhz9H9XSVCtpaElsL7+k/YAYP+ad6V4aB/Yg1o0GS1xJB 4qwiDNL8p0P1imPlF16g9tBCh0Sjc/E/L17T8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906100259n6b56005bt244b405023c36943@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0906100110v70b7a907s69423106d700ac54@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F740B.3010404@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0906100156k4c010194p64d25c65075a6cca@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F80A2.50001@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0906100259n6b56005bt244b405023c36943@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:30:02 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110906112230s37993f39i12594a2629a599c1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Anyone into multi (frequency) band panning? From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64354540cc96d046c200039 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:30:02 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64354540cc96d046c200039 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Per, This is, partly at least, what I've been working towards in my studio practice, minus summing to stereo. I work with parallel loops, applying frequency banding in the manner you describe, but spatialize within an eight channel dispersion environment. Rather than using autopanning, I use a reactivision based control surface to pan within the space. At the moment it's part theoretical, part practice, and all experimental as I move towards integrating the whole thing into a working system. Of course working with parallel signal paths opens the door to other forms of pannable filter streams, and that's where I ultimately want to take things. I hope to get some studio time in the coming month, but time is, as always, a rare and precious commodity. regards Michael N --0016e64354540cc96d046c200039 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Per,

This is, partly at least, what I've been working toward= s in my studio practice, minus summing to stereo. I work with parallel loop= s, applying frequency banding in the manner you describe, but spatialize wi= thin an eight channel dispersion environment. Rather than using autopanning= , I use a reactivision based control surface to pan within the space. At th= e moment it's part theoretical, part practice, and all experimental as = I move towards integrating the whole thing into a working system. Of course= working with parallel signal paths opens the door to other forms of pannab= le filter streams, and that's where I ultimately want to take things. I= hope to get some studio time in the coming month, but time is, as always, = a rare and precious commodity.

regards

Michael N

--0016e64354540cc96d046c200039-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 08:09:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A43D3BE80; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:09:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1244794176; bh=KGSA43smhlU8porerUFUpPAM0+zP645+kUEp8yyZoNQ=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=ma4Xzpu1T+WWiKCcMHVEgiIyx3Hp2+NXqXMCC9Dx8CWzLeN3sYUTy/9dF6yr470fj JBlWtthlnmtbmNQ48oIhpDOpBOZNlAWo2qZoVoFQpflDnE2uR2W+cYEHzUqV4or/vl JJr2nGXeKwVOsltToCRYMKe3E7f2gpY2uIYhWtyQ= Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:09:36 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Augustus Loop,Little Spacy and Crossfade Loop Synth (was RE: Antwerp Loopfest - video) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:09:40 +0000 (UTC) > I'm happy to say that I think you are wrong! I'm also happy that I'm wrong! :) > Maybe the reason you can't get this feature to work is that you have > opened X-fade Loop Synth as an effect (in an effect insert slot) > rather than as an instrument? Good point, that might be the case. I was already wondering how you selec= t the instrument or the effect version in Mainstage. I saw only 1 when I = expended the drop down list but I probably selected an empty insert effec= t slot on the channel strip ;) So that means if I select the instrument s= lot I'll probably get what I was looking for. Anyway, this reminds me of asking you if it's possible to re-order an ins= ert effect on a channel strip. Is that possible? --- Sjaak - "The FDM" http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! Scarlet NO LIMIT nu slechts 19,95 EUR Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 08:11:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE2253BE81; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:11:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 210624575/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.249.44/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.249.44 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkgCAHOqMUpPTvks/2dsb2JhbAAIzmqECwWIcQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,208,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="210624575" Message-ID: <4A3210C7.20104@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:24:39 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and Crossfade Loop Synth (was RE: Antwerp Loopfest - video) References: <000001c9ead8$75d022e0$020313ac@PIPO> <66f9cc1e0906111421k6f042d63q1e6ebc6519e2e976@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906111421k6f042d63q1e6ebc6519e2e976@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:11:33 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > >> Btw: the manual says "You can play notes from the effect over MIDI, assuming >> your host application supports this (not all hosts allow passing notes to >> effects, only to synths)." > > Maybe the reason you can't get this feature to work is that you have > opened X-fade Loop Synth as an effect (in an effect insert slot) > rather than as an instrument? > With vst this is often a frustrating issue for plugin developers. It may seem obvious that a soft-synth should be able to accept audio input, and that an fx should be able to respond to Midi notes. However for some strange reason a lot of vst hosts treat vst-fx and vsti as completely different categories and don't support that...I've even witnessed a host developer explaining it's unnecessary! Possibly there's a fix in newer editions of hosts that allows you to load a vst-fx into vsti slots and vice versa, so anyone with persisting problems might look into an upgrade as a possible solution. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 08:31:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D39D3BE84; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lo0EWhfw5j3Gk9EWUL+f5QKaHaf7DUQH2OfvOeWPI0o=; b=auehCIoF5CiS64z5bxj0s2tbiyp4v25jOgs2RBaaiEr8lJxMNbVQoUazN+eu2u4KYZ XnO3yN/ae82RNqg+uB4z4K7Sp9XXKsvvpfGaHQpEwQHOsFslfjZXq3E3LtwpZdrbsPIG UVUlDLLNDGqBMMSWtTdW39vh3N14q5hHyIdjE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dd2dSo29xC1m/bKwfJpY/G2zDBZYpAVa1qc1eOdRYxKCHCfXuA/fyWqOxrHzB8ayUp uhPpSBQ6yGxiidJOKK8+sczs5IXS/V8w/ZiQeZt1Z8vtQu7E3TFqjqUGmANml+mPcalR kshHaHZPXD6rP1WYJGGGxzI3vrGY6aG+aMHhA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:31:05 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906120131q7f415952l948137b7f463dc32@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Augustus Loop,Little Spacy and Crossfade Loop Synth (was RE: Antwerp Loopfest - video) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:31:06 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Sjaak wrote: > > Anyway, this reminds me of asking you if it's possible to re-order an insert effect on a channel strip. Is that possible? I usually do that by opening the channel strip in Logic, because Logic has The Hand Tool which you can use to move around effects and instruments or copy them to other channel strips. But MIDI Control bindings done in MainStage do not get copied this way. Another fast method is to double-click a plug-in to open its GUI and then click the button named "Copy". Then you open a new instance of this plug-in, at the new slot location, open it up and click the "Paste" button. This will copy the plug-in settings, but not MIDI Control bindings. For setting up a MIDI Control binding you need to do the MIDI Learn thing. It's simple: 1. Select the Control Object in the workspace area. 2. Click on "Map Parameter" 3. Click on the plug-in's parameter that you want to map. (for plug-ins located on a bus you do this procedure on the concert level; i.e. selecting the concert at top of patch list rather than one of the patches in the list) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 08:36:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD3753BE85; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=XHW/fTLo2PYqKh44G5KiyejuTV/1m+p8c1i5zhjqk0I=; b=d6313xMPCvelGbSaFVMGZU2aXcuubBJXaz9CJlESPHoSUCFwX96IAfPcEfCE88WKZq DB0nndQSf4GfgXYab6lUFJWpSrM+Vjc6iOTRRyJMlzmHjs7kf/YlInlj1auyBBFqn710 5VVA5gAov1N2GK8R2HOXRPTvJn/yHHRYrngRI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gsM45VI2yW4cuhMyU6A2xkWuF07eoKuqxlCOMr0Llbk4QXz8rNkZshwbaDqO9HWfeK h3h/nkA5y7jl23JkPTaUj8ybK6UtdliVmc1b2Sal+SLM/rKdsE86qBsEZcvUinP5RAh2 uHH8fAzQ4/pW7csD6+X1FJmXN/8+8oAglAqCg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:36:05 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906120136w6d03a387x64a49b5b75ba80cc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: New free toys in Mac v10.5 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6ae9069cf66046c22999e Resent-Message-ID: <2BHhGC.A.iLG.2NhMKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:36:06 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6ae9069cf66046c22999e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just happened to se these developer release notes on Mac OS X v10.5: http://bit.ly/KZpDk I'm particularly excited over the part labeled Core Audio (quoting:) Core Audio includes the following new features in Mac OS X v10.5: - A set of high-level services for playing and recording digital audio; see =E2=80=9CAudio Queue=E2=80=9D - Support for OpenAL v1.1; see =E2=80=9COpenAL=E2=80=9D - An updated version of the AU Lab application; see =E2=80=9CAU Lab=E2= =80=9D - The new HAL Lab application for testing and debugging audio hardware and drivers. - New audio unit properties in the Audio Unit framework that let audio units send MIDI data to host applications - A new set of high-level services (called Audio File Stream Services) i= n the Audio Toolbox framework for reading non random-access audio streams. - Four new panner audio units (based on the new AUPannerBase class) that support surround sound: - The sound field panner unit (AUSoundFieldPanner) - The spherical head panner unit (AUSphericalHeadPanner) - The vector panner unit (AUVectorPanner) - The head-related transfer function (HRTF) panner unit (HRTFPanner) Seems you will be able to mock up some really cool future instruments for mac laptop musicians! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --000e0cd6ae9069cf66046c22999e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just happened to se the= se developer release notes on Mac OS X v10.5:=C2=A0
http://bit= .ly/KZpDk

I'm particularly excited over the part labeled Core Audio (quoting:= )

Core Audio includes the following new features in Mac OS X v10.5:<= br>
A set of high-level services f= or playing and recording digital audio; see =E2=80=9CAudio Queue=E2=80=9D
Support for OpenAL v1.1; see =E2=80=9COpe= nAL=E2=80=9D
An updated version of th= e AU Lab application; see =E2=80=9CAU Lab=E2=80=9D
The new HAL Lab application for testing and debugging audio h= ardware and drivers.

New audio unit properties in the Audio Un= it framework that let audio units send MIDI data to host applications
<= li style=3D"margin-left: 15px; ">A new set of high-level services (called A= udio File Stream Services) in the Audio Toolbox framework for reading non r= andom-access audio streams.
Four new panner audio units (based on the= new AUPannerBase class) that support surround sound:
The sound field panner unit (AUSoundFieldPanner)
<= li style=3D"margin-left: 15px; "> The spherical head panner unit (AUSphericalHeadPanner)
The vector panner unit (AUVectorPanner)
The head-related transfer function (HRTF) panner unit = (HRTFPanner)

Seems you will be able to mock up some really co= ol future instruments for mac laptop musicians!=C2=A0

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

--000e0cd6ae9069cf66046c22999e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 08:39:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83F4B3BE87; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PxaaSMBK05AD/q/vX6xjzfE/RYjuFdjvEXRhwXhmSnk=; b=Pj1dpI5cRhkPhpS6H02ThptSF8/e/iAsk3ve/vosj9AABBx1/iDsyX2UVt5lS9m8ay N8MZCaCu8jEQGVXGGA/lzfn1tKWG2wt38vESmOyh4n4Rajy8ZnQVZfLh8rW49GgHPZiq LKHQCTMsZMiMaZxeUoQ96Ez50xRx3QnTWOZgM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uZQiUXt8unUrabO+adyPcbrSmBh0+sMjUKipIzKs4uKU3fTElYzoPVW67azx60tQ6U mN2C3Egx/d3JSHl2Un9wfu8oN9nLfYMyiLsGT5DDFqZreGLEhDQ/dOoQ5lR7dvKm3VBO HsY0IriEHxS948czQn4wi3cv0Maz7Wu4mQ8eM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <339c30110906112230s37993f39i12594a2629a599c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0906100110v70b7a907s69423106d700ac54@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F740B.3010404@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0906100156k4c010194p64d25c65075a6cca@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F80A2.50001@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0906100259n6b56005bt244b405023c36943@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110906112230s37993f39i12594a2629a599c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:39:20 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906120139i26a5d234t3d2ae8db7b972b5f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Anyone into multi (frequency) band panning? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001e680f0e5412698d046c22a5fd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:39:21 +0000 (UTC) --001e680f0e5412698d046c22a5fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Interesting! Please post updates on how your project proceeds in the future! :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:30 AM, michael noble wrote: > Hi Per, > > This is, partly at least, what I've been working towards in my studio > practice, minus summing to stereo. I work with parallel loops, applying > frequency banding in the manner you describe, but spatialize within an eight > channel dispersion environment. Rather than using autopanning, I use a > reactivision based control surface to pan within the space. At the moment > it's part theoretical, part practice, and all experimental as I move towards > integrating the whole thing into a working system. Of course working with > parallel signal paths opens the door to other forms of pannable filter > streams, and that's where I ultimately want to take things. I hope to get > some studio time in the coming month, but time is, as always, a rare and > precious commodity. > > regards > > Michael N > > > --001e680f0e5412698d046c22a5fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Interesting! Please post updates on how your project proceeds in the f= uture! :-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen <= br>www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:30 AM, michael= noble <looplog@g= mail.com> wrote:
Hi Per,

This is, partly at least, what I've been working toward= s in my studio practice, minus summing to stereo. I work with parallel loop= s, applying frequency banding in the manner you describe, but spatialize wi= thin an eight channel dispersion environment. Rather than using autopanning= , I use a reactivision based control surface to pan within the space. At th= e moment it's part theoretical, part practice, and all experimental as = I move towards integrating the whole thing into a working system. Of course= working with parallel signal paths opens the door to other forms of pannab= le filter streams, and that's where I ultimately want to take things. I= hope to get some studio time in the coming month, but time is, as always, = a rare and precious commodity.

regards

Michael N

--001e680f0e5412698d046c22a5fd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 09:14:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 510AD3BE8F; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1244798097; bh=zk2BYFpaELBDHFBh7sgpzPpwtZdHrdZ+Mq5ZyHCeaXc=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=KmGlytQALLlRgOtwe3MhMmniNbADi8p3Bzahz5e4osC/n+44ISB4pwSMNvLfU0HuB 7KJgJ2NMVhHimUgGf4yRAZn8tAy3gDf5oG3irj4v8dm/22XzUjRvdOh9fpboMXKTdn ecb5y01SIEmPdfGFN9tBSplE0GUxVAdbOfqA14lM= Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:14:56 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: New free toys in Mac v10.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <54dicB.A.53G.TyhMKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:14:59 +0000 (UTC) > - New audio unit properties in the Audio Unit framework that let aud= io > units send MIDI data to host applications Like sending midi clock from a looper au-plugin? 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 09:20:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D346E3BE91; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:20:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OO+n2UlKmHu4a7xrmSdkQSLlwpo3s9y1N2ozU/1HwnY=; b=e0yFDGaLQ/JYck8gGRGCpqbmjRNlzcubwQVNcJ/L5DcGy/o9AzJApo2DrzuWxm6jnG +y2Ne2t9QelI68Z4+4GzKXscgYyV8goEriInLNx2jvyo0PasCCM47QSGoqxykS5V5zrm qraCySNJpo5LTyofuLLyPYOjfBFSiHPGPh6hY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=X6u0rjOuRygJKdK2pziVtRk5bnt4OFa06dA9r9RgxvLZRh/gg2tFy3n6eqAABq69zC fnbrcZtEtIbRue82wM3ZaoO62VHMEqH12t5zHDc99uuhsq0dtvzgbVf5OlIRPvGH2myW /7WSKZEe1t4e3Ie4WNRSj2Yd5NDj4o4MyIOrE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906120139i26a5d234t3d2ae8db7b972b5f@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0906100110v70b7a907s69423106d700ac54@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F740B.3010404@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0906100156k4c010194p64d25c65075a6cca@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F80A2.50001@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0906100259n6b56005bt244b405023c36943@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110906112230s37993f39i12594a2629a599c1@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0906120139i26a5d234t3d2ae8db7b972b5f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:20:27 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110906120220u2111657asc20aaeee4e802148@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Anyone into multi (frequency) band panning? From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f91eca33262a046c233801 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:20:30 +0000 (UTC) --001485f91eca33262a046c233801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Don't worry, as soon I have anything material to share, this list will be the first to know! best Michael N On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Interesting! Please post updates on how your project proceeds in the > future! :-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:30 AM, michael noble wrote: > >> Hi Per, >> >> This is, partly at least, what I've been working towards in my studio >> practice, minus summing to stereo. I work with parallel loops, applying >> frequency banding in the manner you describe, but spatialize within an eight >> channel dispersion environment. Rather than using autopanning, I use a >> reactivision based control surface to pan within the space. At the moment >> it's part theoretical, part practice, and all experimental as I move towards >> integrating the whole thing into a working system. Of course working with >> parallel signal paths opens the door to other forms of pannable filter >> streams, and that's where I ultimately want to take things. I hope to get >> some studio time in the coming month, but time is, as always, a rare and >> precious commodity. >> >> regards >> >> Michael N >> >> >> > --001485f91eca33262a046c233801 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't worry, as soon I have anything material to share, this list will = be the first to know!

best

Michael N

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:

Interesting!= Please post updates on how your project proceeds in the future! :-)
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Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

= On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:30 AM, michael noble <looplog@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:

Hi Per,

This is, partly at least, what I've been working toward= s in my studio practice, minus summing to stereo. I work with parallel loop= s, applying frequency banding in the manner you describe, but spatialize wi= thin an eight channel dispersion environment. Rather than using autopanning= , I use a reactivision based control surface to pan within the space. At th= e moment it's part theoretical, part practice, and all experimental as = I move towards integrating the whole thing into a working system. Of course= working with parallel signal paths opens the door to other forms of pannab= le filter streams, and that's where I ultimately want to take things. I= hope to get some studio time in the coming month, but time is, as always, = a rare and precious commodity.

regards

Michael N

--001485f91eca33262a046c233801-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 09:43:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F8183BE90; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GB0icOwUpzdw78AxMDxLgsZD2dglQ0twEnWAUZu64d0=; b=x3fm+OutFUcH77FDxKL//xjLq0GT5kRITcNrCQWOD5hEDivtwrrWnP64nNMWIFoLt9 Ss/QW/QAy0J6zXZuSO2i3xNHHm1CQzEohaaD3Al2O59365KC1xuevX3U6bGYwLyRM4NR fgwBoBOPYC3lT4MFhpDBos90ccYqpxp/2vqSM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Qt21c8wQVzwRuG04e7ao0MSEpeeXf2jgM5+smoqe2s4MQ7D2CJ/P8dej4hOG8/EhsH Y2PQudCfm1XlxNiE3ULKNwTDGucdovkLaJi+/TmSWTx/aIOEfNZ9+9IHwb/5qr/Ixtrk ig7MBYhrvEhbjvvjEj8+pyoYxwdRIcD59AL3o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:43:11 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906120243o29713bc0l1b2dd35e5c236d69@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New free toys in Mac v10.5 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:43:12 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Sjaak wrote: >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0- New audio unit properties in the Audio Unit framework tha= t let audio >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0units send MIDI data to host applications > > Like sending midi clock from a looper au-plugin? That would be great! Maybe. But I guess that if they had meant MIDI Clock they would have written MIDI Clock. The reason for my assumption is that MIDI Clock is not channel dependent and generally more of a global data. I think that sentence rather refers to plug-ins that can send MIDI as notes or CC's? Both sending MIDI Clock and other MIDI data from an AU plug-in has always been possible by routing it through OS X IAC Bus. The new thing is that the AU protocol has been upgraded to handle it directly within the plug-in host. But I can't see anything new here from a practical user perspective. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 09:59:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A70C3BE79; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:59:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cEG/GIOHfka3nByMyP6NjyNi60P6I+ZMJDl0tpdE90Q=; b=U5VPdgIFsvvGZlcT0JrW4nEiMyPlF30n7DlfzXylpBGAZOyl2QqQQcJXaQWlLb6xBI bbaERChcU4GS5dhVTuVPhADo7ot/pnOOTpTorKelRUCMaFUVB895gWazYKBnZDALwtfi JgWQYaDhnSHnYY6PsQ1Lfi9CNCI6Qo/5k8mAg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=DF2LufwcURp/ro37SWwOZr21q1SLcQNLPVluHUlGjQtYgUkwivRp86aSObUIovASfD v8tvjMyJnL+i+6OLipyXpYKgeqFD34uDdSU70CiZLg2aNXb/Pbm1l1DGDwN6wTA6W1db 11ftw8YKzX/IX1cWQvKwEGbPcfSc93LjMMmto= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:59:34 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906120259o79040c50k63fe8c4902f17654@mail.gmail.com> Subject: "Non Canned Surround Music" event (Re: New free toys in Mac v10.5) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2lLKy.A.FtH.GciMKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:59:34 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Sjaak wrote: > great! I'm finding the new surround panning most inspiring! OT rambling: How about producing a festival for Live Surround Music! Could be pre defined as a four channel event to give performers a fair chance to rearrange the control surfaces of their live rigs. One issue would be to keep enough space INSIDE the speaker's sweet-spot for the audience. I once played over an 18 channel system and it was great even though there were no particular "direction" or "depth" in the live sound design context; just different frequency bands of a summed stereo output flying around the 18 speakers above, left, right and behind. Would be cool to give folks a chance to set up their rig to PLAY the surround sound - actually that would be the point in such a festival. This would break some new ground related those guys that play back audio files from the hard drive with Max-MSP or PD surround treats. A "Non Canned Surround Music" event ;-) Woops... this OT took off a bit, think I need to chance the subject line. per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 10:06:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51DF23BE8B; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20090612100650868.D411D7000097@mwinf2a08.orange.fr Message-Id: From: doc rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906120259o79040c50k63fe8c4902f17654@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: OT : AirPort 5.4.2 problem Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:06:42 +0200 References: <66f9cc1e0906120259o79040c50k63fe8c4902f17654@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Sorry to bother you all with this, but I can't get the latest Airport update to install. Is anyone having the same problem? I've failed completely at finding a way to email Apple about it, too. Thanks, Doc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 10:49:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 986763BE7C; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fAlDaSGYTW8NisRO+nGwbQ+eZtbzpY4eH31MuCQ36Ms=; b=eGK1wM0gMlWsra3VWuvv/Awb5NdVHvh2EgP4qleynk4CzlO1TeOtDaSQgvCkdXFQKD 89BOSEBTFu/iPUZWZAgSfkLIPoR1RQZCx1b9GGD10p1eX9397iGELCqLGLiMS3Nts9xn WD034EpmVHJ5PX+u7w8C8VRHPEE13G8Ljswgg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ZRocAIvvF/AIkifxioyVECrwlwQibQosrecste7yyJ870pBR99RGabb9EhuezJlIPx BObKKzadYXK49o97tYMUMiuo41An0UnDETKGELyoHIuIIpBIS5s5my27fSwiJOeSkLEX 9H5ERjcT17YQXRLfvGnXpYbSfkWd8PSRPz+y0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:49:01 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c015725ce2397e10 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New free toys in Mac v10.5 From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:49:03 +0000 (UTC) As Per mentions, that's always been possible - either via the IAC bus, or like Augustus Loop does it, which is for the plug-in to define its own MIDI out port which the application can connect to. Fundamentally though, this all sucks. What's needed in the AU spec is a way for a plug-in to directly control the host transport. Not via MIDI - directly. Like ReWire does. I mean, if Augustus Loop knows it wants to run at 104bpm, it wants to be able to tell the host "104bpm", not sit there emitting MIDI clock messages at an appropriate rate that the host may then more or less interpret as about 104bpm. Alternatively, all hosts could implement OSC control. Then the plug-in could just send the messages over OSC and not worry about the AU or VST specs. cheers, os. 2009/6/12 Sjaak : >> =A0 =A0- New audio unit properties in the Audio Unit framework that let = audio >> =A0 =A0units send MIDI data to host applications > > Like sending midi clock from a looper au-plugin? That would be great! > > --- > Sjaak > http://euroloopfest.com/ > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > > > __________________________________ > Scarlet schrapt download limiet! > Scarlet NO LIMIT nu slechts 19,95 EUR > Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! > > --=20 os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 11:19:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 666183BE7F; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pgnvc3naDzALdQROshDKeA8nO3wfF2qPOBDY36CN6oA=; b=P+j81cCau3X/6f5vXmqzlQNWAxDs2Y2dMz8kIxTEJbR8y5S2bW0K4HQ/Z14sbhIly0 0YR8+qSvOZtoOMMcM9+EqLIjO798HW1RMXl3yLXK7g/OkQvz1ukJoDpaKyZ7gFuj+ltK FAud5Iv8YEUChzxRQ2gCTjX0LosLbOcPvhTqQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uPeavK11p+omeNLw9g5O8525IQM72+rhWQ1PZYdnMIaOsr3dl8LuZz1iby4LTclRPV 7PCLehUP7k1JV/Vhry3WrO8v5r2pDOmzfQUxUhQrNdvsgwqejprg1klFK3dl9IvihWpF 3spLgs1HDNEZ5Zy1ZPlUMvebOHCBKWPVavZzQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:11:40 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906120411v6c54ec97p87ffff6d98c37553@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New free toys in Mac v10.5 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:19:34 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Os wrote: > Fundamentally though, this all sucks. What's needed in the AU spec is > a way for a plug-in to directly control the host transport. Not via > MIDI - directly. Like ReWire does. Damn right! Not that I would need that high precision for live looping. But for doing live sequencing it would would be very good. > Alternatively, all hosts could implement OSC control. Then the plug-in > could just send the messages over OSC and not worry about the AU or > VST specs. How accurate is OSC for sync? Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 11:30:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A5583BE85; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:30:14 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <339c30110906120220u2111657asc20aaeee4e802148@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090612113014.167820@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <66f9cc1e0906100110v70b7a907s69423106d700ac54@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F740B.3010404@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0906100156k4c010194p64d25c65075a6cca@mail.gmail.com> <4A2F80A2.50001@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0906100259n6b56005bt244b405023c36943@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110906112230s37993f39i12594a2629a599c1@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0906120139i26a5d234t3d2ae8db7b972b5f@mail.gmail.com> <339c30110906120220u2111657asc20aaeee4e802148@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Anyone into multi (frequency) band panning? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/6ElweXS36bhphrP0N+UH2HmSlUjMQy/cH/yrke4 3WN0HIsKQR38x1O42hIOP5EpeiXAKhbAmQxA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: fgsBfswzf2IsZv5yl21oUHx4dWxlc1aS X-FuHaFi: 0.71 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:30:19 +0000 (UTC) I know, Per, this is not what you're looking for but I found this interesting panning option: https://store.ernieball.com/product/part_number=P06165/574.0.23625.0.0.0.0 It's an Ernie Ball Stereo Pan pedal. At one point, I was thinking of adding that to my chain for on the fly positioning of loops in the stereo mix while looping. best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 12:08:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C692F3BE81; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:08:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1244808501; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=SKzDC4zd5dJuAcxj0R87Osq6ZH8=; b=DRa8dMiZDtDg+PeU0pQfeI2Sc8pv/6KKGEkhBta+GdwFaRKAWk6e5jzYGL2m1KVv bJA6P30wRXx0UAm95cREFNzOK2kZFHdvToWQEnEjFc/MA3O1c4FHOdGJKyo6aE1g; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=0JRwel5FAAAA:8 a=3OteE1JSk4aGxViOgNcA:9 a=YjxuqonbVErtKijVr-dF9b0QB-AA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001001c9eb56$797a1ad0$f3e13547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: Total Immersion 2 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:08:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:08:21 +0000 (UTC) This looks very cool. I wish I could be there. Great video. http://www.51bpm.com/ti2 Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 12:09:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C1643BE86; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:09:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=g0SksmnY4T9rU8sCmTdQ/3cDK/nbCYsb8eUFBVdJf0qFloaIU0UF4uDQrGdTXkdIwUAgxay3vYFDo/7GUPStMAj0r3nL8OIZd27QJCq2DNX4N4oIrcI5pgHtL50WzNnI; Message-ID: <20090612070905.m97q714ywog0wsg4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:09:05 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "Non Canned Surround Music" event (Re: New free toys in Mac v10.5) References: <66f9cc1e0906120259o79040c50k63fe8c4902f17654@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906120259o79040c50k63fe8c4902f17654@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:09:06 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Per Boysen : > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Sjaak wrote: >> great! > > I'm finding the new surround panning most inspiring! > > OT rambling: > How about producing a festival for Live Surround Music! Could be pre > defined as a four channel event to give performers a fair chance to > rearrange the control surfaces of their live rigs. One issue would be > to keep enough space INSIDE the speaker's sweet-spot for the audience. > I once played over an 18 channel system and it was great even though > there were no particular "direction" or "depth" in the live sound > design context; just different frequency bands of a summed stereo > output flying around the 18 speakers above, left, right and behind. > Would be cool to give folks a chance to set up their rig to PLAY the > surround sound - actually that would be the point in such a festival. > This would break some new ground related those guys that play back > audio files from the hard drive with Max-MSP or PD surround treats. A > "Non Canned Surround Music" event ;-) > > Woops... this OT took off a bit, think I need to chance the subject line. > > per > > Surround sound and live-looping are a natural combination. All of my =20 laptop-based work is designed for surround-sound. In most venues, =20 though, I have to fold it down to a stereo mix. Such is life. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 12:21:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 591323BE85; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DAebQBNF366rmrYSo3hJMwHkD7/Jy08G19pQvpRMmH0=; b=AKYQ/QvPNcYO8lSxx6DzGY9sAO572hGd5uxHkbXUg/MMexC0rGIiqOhUi9S9rsHgG5 mKkCFlpEkEZpyLKtpiWVo+UoWEPi1TXr7+Cd5aYXtxRpeZP/kwiLkXWfzSyNe90xW9UN nVYJr67mki7+xzM9bveXVbIkGx7pNMpaKibLw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=mLNNpZcJyeKwbUbKs7l+SkvSwCPZK/56vGNQ1LjWfsugnBG7V+Ltr6uZjjEmWxPJ4s cLinBgzrmMY0WpduFZd7YZTd6krH7YUDNH0yqZAUbEclqeK1ekBrwliFLfDert706Jr4 nIez76CCfx7ZL7zL8tKdrI5qBFsq0vaqCHX48= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906120411v6c54ec97p87ffff6d98c37553@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0906120411v6c54ec97p87ffff6d98c37553@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:21:32 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cb547c9c0ec43464 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New free toys in Mac v10.5 From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:21:34 +0000 (UTC) In terms of the time delay and variability of OSC message delivery - it would probably completely depend on the implementation on the host and client. I would guess it ought to be generally as good as inter-application MIDI. But with OSC you don't have to follow that model. i.e. with MIDI your only chance of sync is to send messages at the right time and have the host attempt to react at exactly the same time (or for clock, send messages at a certain rate and have the host try to figure out that rate). Because OSC is totally flexible you can set up much more intelligent protocols e.g. directly specifying the tempo, or setting up sync points using a common system clock, or something. Of course the downside to OSC is that there's absolutely no standards for this stuff implemented yet. os. 2009/6/12 Per Boysen : > How accurate is OSC for sync? -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 12:33:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 660683BE88; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=h56vF0k4Y+Wmr9+CkrzPWXUKehFMNkyt8430xIKftHE=; b=BYiwUz6R6Pw9lFHfvpMmnfDdx5hT/z0IPtsGZfS+oRavpz+FcAiODRuxo9crahjjkl B/vficLuDJTUt4fKKjCkKCuTLXKNCGebdQKb6zOBNSZLaoGLdLKlmP4JIkLz2EccI5/e ZJkYuaTRKtj3DWJo703VZyrgIYlnyDmOSQZbM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=WCt5+eyPl3kZg0aQ3G8hbFwA0iN7UtPHgVhOSss8Mo0PMr8NDH6QpPh9VcbCp43A+E rchrp+BsAMxuN+V9Mv0FDrQDmy7+Dimcptlzj5xSLfz8ynMG6XfFFUxRWelon3sSlf5O gHoSfSkBxNfezdzWscFQKLiIIU7FuESh2wtWY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:33:00 -0500 Message-ID: <2871c3a90906120533y1117c3cbwed55cdd1370590e8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: octave shifter for winds From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Anyone have any recommendation for a hardware octave shifter for wind instruments? I was looking at the EHX POG2, anyone tried playing something other than guitars through it? Thanks! Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 12:38:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C82203BE81; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:38:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5199 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:38:19 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ArES/lN5t+R+/+uc8oP6sjvfMl0b/Bty2PxEz3P0xUE=; b=abc4cr5yFVQc5IvgQOqe0w9wLSnXg6SbUQ5OX0uwGAAQPwTnRXvt/5sVgfuXkiNkAf GNjdGqtQVjenIYsbXkMczOhetOLOhtbh5d4a+dg9rGzh+ppl2FSUntlIzfqNJTz9TsNv NYQjAGDSwoD49SXjBiH4X6x4b2Hve/QBC9sNs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JiGxPHtQ2AFbAd/sSFta+13iHBIlOvvnLC+SSeFjlwTrSsfoETAa+w0j2DyKBcudtT JbNPde6pt7oVMtiGGjbsXcr1LdFXxedaXCFfakf0x6oIZedAWtrF1JzfLxicFE9iSv/G iAz1t2vRMuIJQNLEAuFcydJiTruPnBpcNlUHE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2871c3a90906120533y1117c3cbwed55cdd1370590e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <2871c3a90906120533y1117c3cbwed55cdd1370590e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:38:19 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906120538r38c3a705ga13c326e05ffeb02@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: octave shifter for winds From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:38:19 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Anyone have any recommendation for a hardware octave shifter for wind > instruments? =C2=A0I was looking at the EHX POG2, anyone tried playing > something other than guitars through it? I used a TC Electronics FireworX rack unit effect processor for a while. It gave a good pitch shifting. I've heard German flutist STefan Kellner using the same unit for pitch shifting. You wrote "octave shifter" but the FireworX can shift by any interval, even micro tonally. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 12:44:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A560F3BE8A; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rqRFqafXlaq5m/kIFGnIGPWHTGDjpWSsf1ZEDg/VECs=; b=tUD0LyRxkWyvtqU/oRqc6naDIR/HhklCpKG9ckYQ189JCYH5GkIs9LR4rRW8zFd7Ne XWtRDKUwe6BvQf+gISoz89vEkNb6C+IsHUiSBmNRrsxfBqnbvW9n/mA4o2zZB3EMRvfB +MTwFpCeJOOxU2AzuSKB2exk9u6TF1/r8qG4A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mP9oSaxVlFAoMw0rAYhdcAfdQx7sDbeSzVH/eRssOdSy4SDzllO4pZAO4/ROm62tS1 J9ST2LhwUFXSGgnqKVXd+jisRf3Vu/dU6R6ppgP4ooI1uDWr7XUBo2Q1K01NMkDk3LoR QooM6nbZK9ip/lVnUR0Z/HOLsG/99PtsUfSk0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906120538r38c3a705ga13c326e05ffeb02@mail.gmail.com> References: <2871c3a90906120533y1117c3cbwed55cdd1370590e8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0906120538r38c3a705ga13c326e05ffeb02@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:44:57 -0500 Message-ID: <2871c3a90906120544h283bdaexdfe4092193132e60@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: octave shifter for winds From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Per, That might overkill for my current needs, but I'll check it out (it may create future needs). Sylvain On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Sylvain > Poitras wrote: >> Anyone have any recommendation for a hardware octave shifter for wind >> instruments? =A0I was looking at the EHX POG2, anyone tried playing >> something other than guitars through it? > > I used a TC Electronics FireworX rack unit effect processor for a > while. It gave a good pitch shifting. I've heard German flutist STefan > Kellner using the same unit for pitch shifting. You wrote "octave > shifter" but the FireworX can shift by any interval, even micro > tonally. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 13:01:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B181A3BE8E; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:01:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DkBfPTXPFpHWgOs/U5welYC5TBMeqDedzdTdUafclrk=; b=eo6vFHo1URsiuIhZQxFYyF7VGOHuKy3302DVMTnWYN0tDe5JmiVBHFQsptRquQ5zhc KDnHdOmj+J//O5XMUfRTIFzSEJRN5goTPEsUDYfpvCAByujKt5tNdKCTJpiyF1e2j0Rv hCyCMu5syi1WzKxizumdOdxQO3hOXVoIJRALk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vnNE2/aEKwjgt735Sy7urk/OrqdCNkKMU19S58HghwDv6R86P3R9cDKKVSDTM1wBPm JeMw69ZyDotgazp3xOx3gVC1gDm8vl7VjVjngFLt36S2KqxpFOysnG978ZD96EVXxq7V IW4uQjYxKgFeaqVxm1rqnZKfgVxMcxG/6+Bbs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2871c3a90906120533y1117c3cbwed55cdd1370590e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <2871c3a90906120533y1117c3cbwed55cdd1370590e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:54:37 -0400 Message-ID: <3b06d0ff0906120554h55adef18ta3cc22f6456b9127@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: octave shifter for winds From: Brian Good To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f1a0c6087b73046c2636bd Resent-Message-ID: <9zR5eD.A.VnD.HHlMKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:01:59 +0000 (UTC) --001485f1a0c6087b73046c2636bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use a TC Helicon Voiceworks with a soprano sax. It does multi-voice pitch-shifting, so you can channel Jon Hassell and play parallel chords. The Voiceworks is a bit expensive, and TC also has some pitch-related stomp boxes as well; they may be cheaper. Note that pitch-shifting by as much as an octave might lead to some formant weirdness/chipmunkification, if you care. As a point of interest, the Voiceworks also lets you play non-parallel chords--you feed in an audio signal, and play the notes you want on a MIDI keyboard to generate chords via pitch-shifting. As a wind player, that probably isn't of interest to you, unless you're willing to learn to play keyboard with your toes. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Hi, > Anyone have any recommendation for a hardware octave shifter for wind > instruments? I was looking at the EHX POG2, anyone tried playing > something other than guitars through it? > Thanks! > Sylvain > > --001485f1a0c6087b73046c2636bd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I use a TC Helicon Voiceworks with a soprano sax. It does multi-voice = pitch-shifting, so you can channel Jon Hassell and play parallel chords. Th= e Voiceworks is a bit expensive, and TC also has some pitch-related stomp b= oxes as well; they may be cheaper. Note that pitch-shifting by as much as a= n octave might lead to some formant weirdness/chipmunkification, if you car= e.

As a point of interest, the Voiceworks also lets you pl= ay non-parallel chords--you feed in an audio signal, and play the notes you= want on a MIDI keyboard to generate chords via pitch-shifting. As a wind p= layer, that probably isn't of interest to you, unless you're willin= g to learn to play keyboard with your toes.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:33 = AM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Anyone have any recommendation for a hardware octave shifter for wind
instruments? =A0I was looking at the EHX POG2, anyone tried playing
something other than guitars through it?
Thanks!
Sylvain

--001485f1a0c6087b73046c2636bd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 13:17:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1AD63BE7F; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:17:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A325565.4030005@dehnhard.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:17:25 -0500 From: Tilmann Dehnhard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: octave shifter for winds References: <2871c3a90906120533y1117c3cbwed55cdd1370590e8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0906120538r38c3a705ga13c326e05ffeb02@mail.gmail.com> <2871c3a90906120544h283bdaexdfe4092193132e60@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2871c3a90906120544h283bdaexdfe4092193132e60@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1916PgKlLHUFLqyd6ABYrnkQmtpSs53mSDFgVB xmgEi/k/8ZeAJGozmcN+mSQRaCQzmtqVadH0pliUUwDxzeguNP nMADMzOJWN/xh3pl4uQpa0eyFlNqXkT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:17:43 +0000 (UTC) i have used a whammy for years, very reliable machine. i switched to a digitech vocal 300 for basic fx. it includes most whammy functions and has prog up/down footswitches. (i was fed up with bending down to change the whammy's settings.) the vocal 300 gets kinda funny once in a while, changing the soundprocessing parameters erratically and sounding really shitty. you will have to change the prog and go back again to where you were for resetting that. downside of the fireworx is that programming it is a science in itself. also it needs to think very long (2-3 sec) when changing programs. that is a serious downside on stage. i avoid pitch shifters with pitch recognition as they are not scanning flute and sax correctly enough. also they need just a few millisecs longer and they get irritated easily by leakage from other instruments on stage. good luck - tilmann >> Anyone have any recommendation for a hardware octave shifter for wind >>> instruments? I was looking at the EHX POG2, anyone tried playing >>> something other than guitars through it? >> I used a TC Electronics FireworX rack unit effect processor for a >> while. >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 13:18:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4EA43BE93; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3b06d0ff0906120554h55adef18ta3cc22f6456b9127@mail.gmail.com> References: <2871c3a90906120533y1117c3cbwed55cdd1370590e8@mail.gmail.com> <3b06d0ff0906120554h55adef18ta3cc22f6456b9127@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:18:33 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: octave shifter for winds Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:18:39 +0000 (UTC) At 8:54 AM -0400 6/12/09, Brian Good wrote: >I use a TC Helicon Voiceworks with a soprano sax. It does >multi-voice pitch-shifting, so you can channel Jon Hassell and play >parallel chords. The Voiceworks is a bit expensive, and TC also has >some pitch-related stomp boxes as well; they may be cheaper. Note >that pitch-shifting by as much as an octave might lead to some >formant weirdness/chipmunkification, if you care. I'll second the recommendation for the Helicon Voiceworks. I've got one that I keep dedicated to my WX-11/VL70-m wind synthesis rack. It'll do everything Brian says it will and more: fantastic for everything from Hassell-like harmonic effects to turning a single horn into an entire wind section realistically. It'll even take a monophonic slide guitar patch and emulate a full-blown pedal steel complete with benders. Worth every penny when used on winds. Just brilliant. --m. -- _____ "bye-bye empire; empire, bye-bye" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 14:02:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C48A73BE8B; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 210804465/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.249.44/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.249.44 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkgCAHv8MUpPTvks/2dsb2JhbAAI0VKECwWIcQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,209,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="210804465" Message-ID: <4A3262E6.6030801@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:15:02 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: octave shifter for winds References: <2871c3a90906120533y1117c3cbwed55cdd1370590e8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2871c3a90906120533y1117c3cbwed55cdd1370590e8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <61AqgB.A.R8E.e_lMKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Hi, > Anyone have any recommendation for a hardware octave shifter for wind > instruments? I was looking at the EHX POG2, anyone tried playing > something other than guitars through it? > Thanks! > Sylvain > > not tried with anything else, but guitar through a POG reveals that the EH pitch shifting has it's own particular sound which you'd either like or hate. (but it does have zero latency on downwards pitching, which might make it the only option) What about the Eventide Pitch Factor? andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 14:34:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C0D53BE8A; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 344 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:34:21 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lAOJgvaK5YMNobplSZ73O6qIBOAXHh25VZcEhfaonMc=; b=vfdr0lHYEYlrXsbZBhHtXYuBK2k9ZfQWNNRphMTWpYi0BHJ+1FHhD7hnyhPqSM6GDv yHKbn5OtFkvKSnGiRs7qT9nw3QuXLEG27Yr6syoBcTCtKRiNoRt8YSqT8hn3G89AYLrx 97ieNTiQjUz3vJvZpUAE/FIoBaI5+3sD36GEk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Opslh4eJ4mXAKS/puG8zTwEH2W9s+ZvT/zfjU5xOITLyBrzjAgQZiKBzRULl0GB6c0 N9zeYlYwogGZHoACjrHbeOSZxvRplABmDZJPUis/N9d/jAlMm9IbtVgfQ/IkL+w2LfCo qnHw8vcwW124EGl2bolzpik8Ryi5gARVcGz68= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ian.e.petersen@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:28:36 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6ed55957c6235298 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Help! Need advice about HP and Firewire Audio. From: Ian Petersen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f8129019d987046c278644 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:34:22 +0000 (UTC) --001485f8129019d987046c278644 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mark, Anyway, has anyone had success using recent HP desktop machines with > firewire audio? > I don't have any experience with HP desktop machines, but the HP Pavilion laptop I had recently was the worst laptop I've ever owned. 17" top of the range 'multimedia' model, but Firewire was dreadful (admittedly I was using a TC Konnekt interface which are famously buggy). Ricoh chipset I think. The whole machine fell to bits after a year (and it basically never left my coffee table) ... Ian --001485f8129019d987046c278644 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
mark,

Anyway, has anyo= ne had success using recent HP desktop machines with
firewire audio?

I don't=A0have any exp= erience with=A0HP=A0desktop machines, but the=A0HP=A0Pavilion laptop I=A0ha= d recently was the worst laptop I've ever owned. 17" top of the ra= nge 'multimedia' model, but Firewire was dreadful (admittedly I was= using a TC Konnekt interface which=A0are famously buggy). Ricoh=A0chipset = I think. The whole machine fell to bits after a year (and it basically neve= r left my coffee table) ...=A0

Ian
--001485f8129019d987046c278644-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 14:53:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11B363BE8A; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QqXcxc1IwGFuu7Erz7Vb13GMmZi8CXaTShWoqXaeuVc=; b=gMFHQ1WwHbTd/ljZ27kiB9W8JuiLvcMlPbDfeET1CLlBdPNzEC4MCdo9q5xaJsaZFT 2EXiTfTA2yfFxtDGsa/5aRDe8ZdG5FLpJzmtHawVc6aXs+8prcFZ7y2wsSterg/HrWvs 9KlVDh86dTuXQv6NbsqD5TUIgisRYT9deuXkw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CYQrtbVIuiY+6SMUrS0p/Xaxk4WtpXR3gvV0MzBY3vv3TvxYAAM6sa0oKfxMnmDoQ0 6P4320IO4MtUC7jfzosQ78RULFkTXUL04e0FxrZM+UJFwqJZiPvcYrJFCi21mj1R7Z9J QXSbD1kzP7RoMuBeSiLGHnaA03Og466LlZFtE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:53:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Help! Need advice about HP and Firewire Audio. From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the info. That's not good at all. Perhaps their desktops are more sturdy though... I they're all we use at work, and we're doing a lot of 3d work that's pretty processor intensive and they seem to hold up well. Our IT people said they've had good experiences with them. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Ian Petersen wrote: > mark, >> >> Anyway, has anyone had success using recent HP desktop machines with >> firewire audio? > > I don't=A0have any experience with=A0HP=A0desktop machines, but the=A0HP= =A0Pavilion > laptop I=A0had recently was the worst laptop I've ever owned. 17" top of = the > range 'multimedia' model, but Firewire was dreadful (admittedly I was usi= ng > a TC Konnekt interface which=A0are famously buggy). Ricoh=A0chipset I thi= nk. The > whole machine fell to bits after a year (and it basically never left my > coffee table) ... > Ian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 15:27:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57E933BE89; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:27:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <2871c3a90906120533y1117c3cbwed55cdd1370590e8@mail.gmail.com> <4A3262E6.6030801@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: octave shifter and panning on the cheap Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:26:42 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.199 In-Reply-To: <4A3262E6.6030801@tiscali.co.uk> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CBB9895280792A_1390_B24_WEBMAIL-MC16.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42953-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CBB98952663F62-1390-575@WEBMAIL-MC16.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:27:10 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CBB9895280792A_1390_B24_WEBMAIL-MC16.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" how timely.....last week i discovered the "auto pan" button on my INEKO and after playing with it for awhile, fell in love with the "dynamic" movement of the sound (stereo ?).....it makes something "simple", my middle name, sound much more interesting.....3 knobs: center, width, rate.....i split the mono sig coming out of my rang and send the 2 lines into the INEKO then the mixer.....this is then sent to my VORTEX (thanks stano) and then into my Q-2....one note going madcap.....secondly, the "transpose" knobs: mix, transpose1, transpose2, allow for pitch shifting (-octave,0,+octave).....if you stay below 12 o'clock you avoid the chipmonk sound, if you so desire.....:).....it is so much fun playing with the knobs and "shifting" the pitches as a loop plays.....and if you have pitch shift happening prior to the loop you can get some mad harmonies going on.....luv it!.....granted, the INEKO is not anywhere as deep as the previous mentioned boxes but for something you can carry in your pocket, it contains mucho mojo.....i've had mine for years and every time i use it there is the inevitable "HOLY SHIT" moment, "i didn't know it could do that".....but as i said, i'm simple.....:)m p.s. A NITE OF ZAZZ @ I.C.A.G. (INTERNATIONAL CHILDREN'S ART GALLERY) pittsburgh, july 17th.....featuring: davignon/klobuchar/rickard/sciulli.....and if you can get here, you too can be on the bill!!!!!.....stay tuned! ----------MB_8CBB9895280792A_1390_B24_WEBMAIL-MC16.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
how timely.....last week i discovered the "auto pan" button on my INEKO and after playing with it for awhile, fell in love with the "dynamic" movement of the sound (stereo ?).....it makes something "simple", my middle name, sound much more interesting.....3 knobs: center, width, rate.....i split the mono sig coming out of my rang and send the 2 lines into the INEKO then the mixer.....this is then sent to my VORTEX (thanks stano) and then into my Q-2....one note going madcap.....secondly, the "transpose" knobs: mix, transpose1, transpose2, allow for pitch shifting (-octave,0,+octave).....if you stay below 12 o'clock you avoid the chipmonk sound, if you so desire.....:).....it is so much fun playing with the knobs and "shifting" the pitches as a loop plays.....and if you have pitch shift happening prior to the loop you can get some mad harmonies going on.....luv it!.....granted, the INEKO is not anywhere as deep as the previous mentioned boxes but for something you can carry in your pocket, it contains mucho mojo.....i've had mine for years and every time i use it there is the inevitable "HOLY SHIT" moment, "i didn't know it could do that".....but as i said, i'm simple.....:)m

p.s. A NITE OF ZAZZ @ I.C.A.G. (INTERNATIONAL CHILDREN'S ART GALLERY) pittsburgh, july 17th.....featuring: davignon/klobuchar/rickard/sciulli.....and if you can get here, you too can be on the bill!!!!!.....stay tuned!

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----------MB_8CBB9895280792A_1390_B24_WEBMAIL-MC16.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 15:36:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F36F3BE8B; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1200 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:36:57 UTC X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:37:31 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Aaron Leese Subject: Re: New free toys in Mac v10.5 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Message-Id: <20090612153657.340A93BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, from a programmers point of view ......woohoo! I was just looking at some of those libraries again lately .... for anyone else who happens to write C++, the documentation on Macs Cocoa API includes these libraries ... they are well written and comprehensive (the docs and the libraries). And yes, you can send clock signals from AU plugins to host apps ... though I should mention that very view apps actually utilize this as it makes for pretty intense code (dynamic bpm is one of those things not so well handled as it is). Branching to BPM tracking/shifting ...... Most external sources have rather shotty clocks (+-1ms is typical jitter) ... which is crappy and hard to handle. Internal sources are much better, but then you have to ask the question what happens when we shift bpm on some track that is already playing ? For midi instruments and traccks its not a problem, you just play the notes faster ... but for recorded audio you need to either: 1) shift the freq to play quicker (and then the pitch changes) or .. 2) splice the audio (cut from on position to another, fading in between to avoid audio nonlinearities) Number 2 is the way to go, but most applications haven't really gotten there yet. I have been looking at this a lot lately because it's an area of personal interest for me. You can devise beat splicing algorithms that follow certain beats (straight, triplets, clave, etc) and then intelligently splice from segment to segment if you know the initial bpm of the audio recording .... for long recordings this is difficult, but for short ones (ie loops) this is quite simple. Much cooler is when you stack/overdub on these loops AFTER they have been spliced/bpm shifted. For example ... take a loop and speed it up to 3x normal play, but use a splicing algorithm that splits it up and plays segments that fall where triplets would be on the clip. Now stack/overdub on that track and make some noise ....... when you re-sync the loop to normal play, the result will be the recorded audio after the inverse of the bpm shift (which is a recording that exists only where the triplets would be on the audio clip). This way you can devise some pretty wild beats ...... Anyway, thats my 2 cents .. ciao A At 02:14 AM 6/12/2009, you wrote: > > - New audio unit properties in the Audio Unit framework that let audio > > units send MIDI data to host applications > >Like sending midi clock from a looper au-plugin? That would be great! > >--- >Sjaak >http://euroloopfest.com/ >http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > > >__________________________________ >Scarlet schrapt download limiet! >Scarlet NO LIMIT nu slechts 19,95 EUR >Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 16:25:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B6903BE8A; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:25:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 419 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:25:19 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZCV5UFb/txwsTZZWZ/tjtudbuUE95PmscbO9sw5uF9Y=; b=dK9VlWpZsmCb1UtOUe4IQJvZLk7+VAT5vpVHnSFQAk5IHNHzn/3XKsm1WPzqf3pDTX 9HabPmAGx128GqToUKa+XbpiVCYLHluVOfOfr3BgCWlCxvxdYmby/FwKoXIgFupSlrV1 ObhL5GULe49jVzlBB/n4y6kDa6qMs1aNomeGQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=f9hFHpoWcTzWjc+TqCE9orB9AWOZHXM+OpcTOgVFRjvpOHUbKcB0xlSeI9/AIvisVf H/M0BaX5I8zuEkyrH4UL3QDXJjRkGHS2ZYm2cJogsUAiWdfX4EZ13FMgHVNNxyiekaQT lK54BY39RzdatMZGmHvaeqAB0f+Xl1cjDf9vs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001101c9ea9b$41ca7eb0$3ced3547@YOUR08D5303051> References: <001101c9ea9b$41ca7eb0$3ced3547@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:18:14 -0500 Message-ID: <1c3a4db00906120918v7ffe628at4df8cf2dbbb84526@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices From: marcus To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bdf8a5aa275046c290ee0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:25:20 +0000 (UTC) --0015174bdf8a5aa275046c290ee0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For a somewhat updated version of the dl4, check out the damage control timeline. I read that some of the guys who worked on the DL4 went to that company. I absolutely love mine for reverse, ping, multi, and a pretty decent chorus sound. It has a lot of options that my memory lane and replica don't. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Hey G, > > Do I get a decoder ring? >> > > Only if you go the software route! :) > > I can tap in a loop that is pretty accurate for most uses. >>> >> Oh. Are you saying it has tap tempo? >> > > that depends on what you call tap tempo. The 2880 works like this: Tap to > start recording and tap to stop recording and begin playback. This is in non > quantize mode unsynced. This is the way i use it. this is what I call tap > tempo. It works just like the DL 4 in many ways in this mode. If you need > the manual I have a pdf. > > As a slave in quantize it's the same thing only you press the drum machine > start after arming the 2880 to start recording then the 2880 button to set > the lenght of the loop and begin playback. I find it virtually impossible to > flub a loops timing while quantized in slave mode. > > the ability to store and retrieve loops - rather than a delay pedal with a >> looper, if >> you see what I mean. >> > > I see what you mean but this is not my thing. I never play the same thing > twice and can't repeat anything I have ever done exactly. I have basic > themes or variations that i come back to. > > Maybe what you need is the software route. Hopefully some of the lappys > will chime in here. The 2880 will only save one loop on each card. It can > have up to 4 tracks and a mixdown, etc but this is erased when you press new > loop. Some of the "phrase sampler" type loopers can save multiple loops > (Digi Jamman) but are not midi. > > Best of luck on all you do, > > Jeff > > > > Out here in the Great Beyond, everything is strange. > The sooner you get used to that, the better off you'll be. > Allen Steele > Galaxy Blues > > > > http://jeffduke.org/ > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace > http://virb.com/jeffduke > http://www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke > http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke > http://www.justin.tv/loopslab > http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ > http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 > http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ > > > > --0015174bdf8a5aa275046c290ee0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For a somewhat updated version of the dl4, check out the damage control tim= eline.

I read that some of the guys who worked on the DL4 went to th= at company. I absolutely love mine for reverse, ping, multi, and a pretty d= ecent chorus sound. It has a lot of options that my memory lane and replica= don't.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Jeff Duke <= span dir=3D"ltr"><jeff_d@embarq= mail.com> wrote:
Hey G,

Do I get a decoder ring?

Only if you go the software route! :)

I can tap in a loop that is pretty accurate for most uses.

Oh. =A0Are you saying it has tap tempo?

that depends on what you call tap tempo. The 2880 works like this: Tap to s= tart recording and tap to stop recording and begin playback. This is in non= quantize mode unsynced. This is the way i use it. this is what I call tap = tempo. It works just like the DL 4 in many ways in this mode. If you need t= he manual I have a pdf.

As a slave in quantize it's the same thing only you press the drum mach= ine start after arming the 2880 to start recording then the 2880 button to = set the lenght of the loop and begin playback. I find it virtually impossib= le to flub a loops timing while quantized in slave mode.

the ability to store and retrieve loops - rather than a delay pedal with a = looper, if
you see what I mean.

I see what you mean but this is not my thing. I never play the same thing t= wice and can't repeat anything I have ever done exactly. I have basic t= hemes or variations that i come back to.

Maybe what you need is the software route. Hopefully some of the lappys wil= l chime in here. The 2880 will only save one loop on each card. It can have= up to 4 tracks and a mixdown, etc but this is erased when you press new lo= op. Some of the "phrase sampler" type loopers can save multiple l= oops (Digi Jamman) but are not midi.

Best of luck on all you do,

Jeff

Out here in the Great Beyond, everything is strange.
The sooner you get used to that, the better off you'll be.
Allen Steele
Galaxy Blues

http://jeffduke.org/=
http= ://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace
http://virb.com/jeff= duke
http:= //www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke
http://www.vime= o.com/jeffduke
http://www.just= in.tv/loopslab
http://= themineisthemind.blogspot.com/
http://= www.youtube.com/user/sticky899
http://www.sug= arat.org/tecbab/

--0015174bdf8a5aa275046c290ee0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 16:33:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10D523BE91; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:33:08 -0500 Subject: RE: OT: Help! Need advice about HP and Firewire Audio. Thread-Topic: OT: Help! Need advice about HP and Firewire Audio. Thread-Index: AcnrbZRWm+Isuz40SPCCo2jPsGqsYwADZZUw Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3BCC413@barq.sailpoint.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ninja-pim: Scanned by Ninja x-ninja-attachmentfiltering: (no action) acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:33:10 +0000 (UTC) > Thanks for the info. That's not good at all. Perhaps their desktops > are more sturdy though... I they're all we use at work, and we're > doing a lot of 3d work that's pretty processor intensive and they seem > to hold up well. Our IT people said they've had good experiences with > them. PCs are an ever changing stew of components, drivers, and software. I've been using PCs for as long as there have been PCs and I've had good and bad experiences with most of the major brands. No matter who the manufacturer is, at various points in history they will all suck. And for you Mac guys up on your damn pedestal, I've had absolutely horrible experiences with two Mac Minis :-) I wouldn't assume things like peripheral chipsets will be the same from one year to the next, or that laptop quality is an indicator of desktop quality. My experience with HP desktops has been generally positive though none of them were audio computers. I've mostly had customized Dells, currently I'm on a Gateway. You're probably going to be fine with an HP, but I would be sure that whomever you buy it from has a good return policy so if it does happen to have an incompatible Firewire chipset you can return it. As you mentioned before you could also just buy Firewire card from Newegg. Last time I checked they were around $50. Good luck! Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 16:43:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 069D53BE8B; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:43:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=ZgzzNP5+sloIIdUCWGSYmkTDxGeuOvP3qxpdJ8/pJVk=; b=x0/TPCAJePvvCOJtt3QiUfVVr8wF2QYQRNttWTiNTNVSRCfWNd1wi4okQJ3dI4V7JT 83XW7ZheH5hFqTSAVG19MPJQBPQNVy27LSdC+aJfmubP6I+wGiym4SVNa/5WaKLU9kga /P3DrRGPQ3zwJ601fT/GjD8eZRWRJImZPVLr0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=tNOWoIaeFJ+ojQGZxkthasRZTrnDzmODcLjtasf07lVIPDl+IKLqsLC5xOBqh/rBnl EGTqHBLWtikOdbcoUuZzpgg0TCZVoBtb/rtF5FNPJ1uJ0uD8+ravsf1kwRCCOT8BXc9X uFSaD4O+jGIIkBHgPU7yM90TMKf2NbWC44OaU= Message-Id: From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3BCC413@barq.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-229886703 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT: Help! Need advice about HP and Firewire Audio. Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:44:18 -0700 References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3BCC413@barq.sailpoint.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <7QQWCC.A.b5.LXoMKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:43:55 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-229886703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Jun 12, 2009, at 9:33 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > I've had absolutely > horrible experiences with two Mac Minis :-) What was the problem? Drive or logic board failures? BobC http://cdbaby.com/cd/rpcollier5 --Apple-Mail-1-229886703 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Jun 12, 2009, = at 9:33 AM, Jeff Larson wrote:

I've had = absolutely
horrible experiences with two Mac Minis = :-)

What was the = problem?
Drive or logic board = failures?

BobC

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= --Apple-Mail-1-229886703-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 16:48:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87F233BE93; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qlp/x5LFDCaFrBnBv6v6VscLt4+5ZT4vbZVDoptV3Bc=; b=xIDtlq8tFD68+0rZI/RFKF6nT8NIsRVkQtCB1mN5WCEt5q0A+uVecQspbh0Pq61De2 yxw2X8vDOwN3KWphr5hxGEC5Hicx526ryM/7WYBi0QMPq3vdzh8w5YrxAUbG+3B0yWMv ODu08kfOICfhXEqLMGCohb6AhFEXdgu2wL82E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ITQ4tslDBIEkW2WGAXz18BBAuYF8sDIxazqAaATwMeJ6YwbrmdviJVzT5wYsSEEisy Ba4ybTdAzfbpogf7usvFnBh762Szo0RgRy2rHn2mPc7fApCOiKogEJeR9Jo1g5e8LRll oVvxzr5E8/93k5wszvZjucj7LnadciiYwsNlc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:48:41 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906120948i2c08627dy16252929bd7cf0bd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: computer stuff, Firewire etc. (was multiple threads) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8k-ZmB.A.yFB.rboMKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Jeff, thanks for pointing out that sentence: "I wouldn't assume things like peripheral chipsets will be the same from one year to the next, or that laptop quality is an indicator of desktop quality." True. Wisened up by my most-recent experience (it seemed that in the past I have been blessed by a combination of unholy luck and wise system configuration in those cases where I was able to customize (read: tower computers)), I started to check out which kind of chipset is used by various laptop manufacturers (note that I did check the ExpressCard interface also for those which don't have a built-in IEEE1394 - see also below). Acer is relatively easy to browse - while they don't mention it in the spec sheets, you can go to the driver download page and there they state which manufacturer the device in question comes from. So, checking out no less than 60 different models, it seems their chipsets come from seven different manufacturers...way to go. So there's * TI, which seems to work all the time * JMicron, which a lot of people have complained about * Ricoh, which never works * O2, which I have in one of my business computers and which seems to work ok * three others I don't know anything about. As a sidenote, the issue with the Dell Studio thingie I mentioned seems to be a design problem independently or in addition to the Ricoh topic. However, there's another thing: "As you mentioned before you could also just buy Firewire card from Newegg." As I understand (have been reading up a little, sometimes from people who have at least a little bit of IEEE1394 aura, like the engineering staff at RME), the problem is like this: even if you buy a IEEE1394 card with a TI chipset, you're still out of luck if your computer uses a Ricoh (or other "bad") chipset to interface with that card. So I'm still not sure which computer to get...well, perhaps I just return to my eight-year old Toshiba. Works fine and has built-in TI IEEE1394 (no USB2.0, though...) Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 17:18:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8FF23BE90; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GT772JMhQ87VfaFOXNUQs61b8O96+TUlDb102cMPRSg=; b=ofrgnQNsd//BN6wdPl8id92dQhURU8k3KFp+NoN8gVg1SejMkT1iz4Q3bZC+vjggHw MeEL3TXIfgMRHvp5iY3lvWipVE5x89UPb29hEbNPQhpea2f1TOnPYyBMjPTVy1NGTWk9 rBVqbG/CnlZ9h2IfWxmBtnBjuu/4uzcyMCVlQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xKkibanJHhC079MK/TUP0HSbabpuKVm55oDGrIMzghAUhdtn4wkR0RZx8z+s+MZ8Z3 pi3D0MChhXufUyInEcULdQ7S0DeEUgLWvBWC0faQ5YZBfhumYCWTDCFDS0vKVWG6gOjJ kz49Tm9mbBxtWE4WF4PEdc3SO1ohF/mcI7bMI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:18:20 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Help! Need advice about HP and Firewire Audio. From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Just a general note on my experience with Compaq/HP. We have a very inexepensive Compaq desktop that we got for my wife and daughter. Caveat here is that I have no idea how it is with FW. All they use it for is internet, schoolwork, Office, Email. But, it runs 24 hours a day and has for 2 years. The only problem we had was the NIC went bad. I just bought a NIC card and it's been fine since. So, from that perspective, I'm happy with Compaq/HP. I, on the other hand, prefer to build my own. A friend of mine used this company to configure systems for their office desktops. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/ You can pick which components you want and the price, from what I recall, was reasonable. They use good components, and the cases are cool. ;) On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Mark Sottilaro wr= ote: > I've been up and down the ol' information superhighway and I can't for > the life of me find anything on this, so I'm hoping a LDer might be > able to shed some light on this for me. > > I'm seriously considering transitioning my Toshiba laptop to become a > general use computer and replacing it with a decent, but budget priced > desktop PC. =A0In my search HP keeps coming up as decently priced and > featured. =A0One of the features they seem to have is on board Firewire. > =A0The problem is my MOTU 828 recommends only using the Firewire cards > with a TI chipset. =A0I can't find anything about the HPs that mention > what chipset they use. =A0I've written and called and got no response > from their sales dept. (way to go HP!) > > Anyway, has anyone had success using recent HP desktop machines with > firewire audio? =A0Should I not care and just get any computer and > install a Firewire card? > > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 17:34:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B76E3BE82; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:34:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:34:51 -0500 Subject: RE: OT: Help! Need advice about HP and Firewire Audio. Thread-Topic: OT: Help! Need advice about HP and Firewire Audio. Thread-Index: AcnrfPtCQ3RGjRrtRCKF5943rvYPuQABtn2g Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3BCC440@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3BCC413@barq.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ninja-pim: Scanned by Ninja x-ninja-attachmentfiltering: (no action) acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3BCC440barqsailpoint_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:34:55 +0000 (UTC) --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3BCC440barqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I've had absolutely horrible experiences with two Mac Minis :-) > > What was the problem? > Drive or logic board failures? After a year (and out of warranty natch) one had a superdrive go out and would just start spontaneously rebooting. After several years of just living with the reboots I finally tracked it down to a subtle timing problem between two RAM sticks, which BTW were an "officially matched pair". Pulled one out and it's been fine ever since. The other had a catastrophic disk corruption while copying a large file when the main volume was near full. After about a week farting around with both TechTools and Disk Warrior (which cost me $200 since the built-in Apple recovery tools are crap) I was able to recover most of it. Moving over to software, the 10.3 to 10.4 upgrade was not pleasant, several apps broke (though in fairness I use a lot of "unusual" things like emacs). Apple doesn't seem to be particularly shy about breaking backward compatibility on major releases. The way iMail manages it's mail folders is silly and incompatible with every other mail client on the planet. Try to import mail from another system. Your choices? Eudora and Netscape. Who the @&^#*)$ uses those anymore? I haven't tried it lately but trying to get a Mac to use a printer attached to a PC used to be a bloody nightmare involving ghostscript and virtual printer drivers. And don't get me started on their programming environment and APIs. Beauty is indeed skin deep. Jeff --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3BCC440barqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> > I've had absolutely horrible experiences with two = Mac Minis :-)

>

> What was the problem?

> Drive or logic board failures?

After a year (and out of warranty natch) one had a superdriv= e go out

and would just start spontaneously rebooting. After se= veral years of

just living with the reboots I finally tracked it down to a subtle

timing problem between two RAM sticks, which BTW were an "officially

matched pair". Pulled one out and it's been fine = ever since.

The other had a catastrophic disk corruption while copying a large

file when the main volume was near full. After about a= week farting

around with both TechTools and Disk Warrior (which cost me $= 200 since

the built-in Apple recovery tools are crap) I was able to recover most

of it.

Moving over to software, the 10.3 to 10.4 upgrade was not pleasant,

several apps broke (though in fairness I use a lot of "unusual" things

like emacs). Apple doesn't seem to be particularly shy= about breaking

backward compatibility on major releases.<= /p>

The way iMail manages it's mail folders is silly and incompa= tible with

every other mail client on the planet. Try to import m= ail from

another system. Your choices? Eudora and Netscap= e. Who the @&^#*)$

uses those anymore?

I haven't tried it lately but trying to get a Mac to use a printer

attached to a PC used to be a bloody nightmare involving ghostscript

and virtual printer drivers.

And don't get me started on their programming environment an= d APIs.

Beauty is indeed skin deep.

Jeff

--_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3BCC440barqsailpoint_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 17:47:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11DC63BE81; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:47:34 -0500 Subject: RE: computer stuff, Firewire etc. (was multiple threads) Thread-Topic: computer stuff, Firewire etc. (was multiple threads) Thread-Index: Acnrfabz0tnWO5m3RaS4P28CKisE4gABotFw Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3BCC446@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7334ca1b0906120948i2c08627dy16252929bd7cf0bd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0906120948i2c08627dy16252929bd7cf0bd@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ninja-pim: Scanned by Ninja x-ninja-attachmentfiltering: (no action) acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:47:37 +0000 (UTC) > As I understand (have been reading up a little, sometimes from people > who have at least a little bit of IEEE1394 aura, like the engineering > staff at RME), the problem is like this: even if you buy a IEEE1394 > card with a TI chipset, you're still out of luck if your computer uses > a Ricoh (or other "bad") chipset to interface with that card. I've heard that but I'm not sure it's true. I've got both a TI and an NEC chipset (one motherboard, one card) and it works fine with two MOTU devices which claim to hate the NEC chipset. I've also seen a forum posting that says you might need to go into device manager and disable the driver for the motherboard device. I find it hard to believe that the presence of a Ricoh chip on a motherboard with a disabled driver can somehow interfere=20 with the operation of a Firewire device on a PCI card. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 17:47:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93BC33BE99; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 488 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:47:49 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=uWAff6GJ8KcmODKMKDwG7z8ZRXPHSLRI5aSQxM6qFdE=; b=UdY3SGM3HnJzyDJLW9LDE2F+JcWmlkiw9RTlGC0OdGGKySwFlYeTXVhhsxHYch/GL9 gbAvnndAIvrWRdLm1/8lbF45Q0B0LRvnrwYZga9sgQ8noRJjkb3/S8b7KEFpVN5AQpsG lF4BwwxbrazTXjnWNlvgxlljCcbOdvz24XhoI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=UXavG/tB1fudYZVol4TZmDvLNuf7ST5qErPHsPgycV15/0VB6c5FHFxMEjtLHGgF21 5zwsVUOYShWdS41x7tUz6T4I0DJ4G9Faf0K9Ty5r4ZIO2OPGTrgCwG1pOSv+7N0H3Ibe 434KckQ3i7URL7ShPf1j+X8Jl9we/OejF1QNY= Message-Id: <184D975D-CD20-449D-80C5-697E04D3A655@gmail.com> From: RP Collier To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3BCC440@barq.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-233232200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OT: Help! Need advice about HP and Firewire Audio. Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:40:04 -0700 References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3BCC413@barq.sailpoint.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3BCC440@barq.sailpoint.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:47:50 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-233232200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Jun 12, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > I finally tracked it down to a subtle > timing problem between two RAM sticks, which BTW were an "officially > matched pair". Pulled one out and it's been fine ever since. > > The other had a catastrophic disk corruption while copying a large > file when the main volume was near full. Interesting, thanks. I had a drive on a new mini fail right out o the box. regards BobC --Apple-Mail-2-233232200 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Jun 12, 2009, = at 10:34 AM, Jeff Larson wrote:

I = finally tracked it down to a subtle
timing problem between two RAM = sticks, which BTW were an "officially
matched pair". Pulled one = out and it's been fine ever since.
The = other had a catastrophic disk corruption while copying a = large
file = when the main volume was near = full.

Interesting, = thanks.

I had a drive on a new mini fail right = out o the = box.

regards

BobC
<= /body>= --Apple-Mail-2-233232200-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 17:57:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73D4E3BEA0; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:57:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=onyx8sAsNwLKgdOudMgU/l1uWM02lRjWThrDEQ0W9/I=; b=gxdDbQ0bytFMcTtvc7Zfn+HngKYYIJPrmc+ICHzLoaelSqvzRohx0VJiwUvv0NWI8J SrJhxTNhFKKmRhUa30eipFfnQok4eZs2c2JEakKSvoHKlg9w8x9Hiv+nW0DJ7Naq9imJ AdudCKV5Mj0d9dHNuLZH/hUlvKh/z9mlxzWRI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=U/ZhF76Y4BXUVzA7PPkO6B3+D5DtVYvbWxo1xlp6g6Wx8u76SwkKTypLCw/aVX9fZ+ /NW0MOwaK4ifHh54HcWR+2O2qfgBdRRui4eioZyDPy9jIBASFCWKr9KrbqL5xMYCdGTS 8qAL6/rk7nt8mxPN4JcgWFrkDWVzMrcvazWJI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:57:23 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906121057q18542de8p738d04df0aed9422@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: computer stuff, Firewire etc. (was multiple threads) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:57:25 +0000 (UTC) > I find it hard to believe that the presence of a Ricoh chip on a motherboard with a disabled driver can somehow interfere with the operation of a Firewire device on a PCI card. It works differently the way I understand it: In notebooks (note that this works differently for "real" computers in some cases), you typcially have one chipset which handles several peripheral functions. If that given chipset has that "bad DPC behaviour", then you can simply disable it and you're safe...BUT that chipset usually not only controls the IEEE1394, but the ExpressCard slot as well. And as the only option that makes sense to get IEEE1394 into a notebook which doesn't already have it is the express card... In short: the disabled Ricoh chip won't interfere with the operation of your computer. But the chip being disabled will keep you from adding an additional IEEE1394 interface. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 18:36:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89A6B3BE8D; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1800 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:36:14 UTC Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:06:12 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V09 #481 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <20090612174737.9423E3BE91@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:36:14 +0000 (UTC) I'll make up a "summer schedule" early next week, like the one you sent me, and send it your way. dB ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 1:47 PM Subject: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V09 #481 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 18:49:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E89823BE90; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MReQaRjtlpuVqzdYVqeJmcQDodS1bHr3a0e5E4Ee95Y=; b=NYWW/p0cFEah8g2T+HejuHM0nQq+PdTbHTFHpmgVdpK36pFJf7rP00xXSNZvZTXdw0 zdSrvxiAGWVcSdXM7SPr5R4DFR7vhqhK35TW1rIojMkn+lKzB4whw7tZHuTEejhXkQti lTh1gfFZmu6+lEu+Z6inPd88vpJpjemrZ9ing= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=clKF3MRNtWwYXFaOeqrJfBSoiug82B9C/LlHTOgq6UM/Id2G7kd2/AJ2+z1bWloFwc GPrenmseB99sWKfdNZtBkRtw/Hg78OgVryDyppHgbRIqUDuZxUR0qe+IFMT90jToTtW4 Ej3JUMtJHYs0eXZagoIJbVrUB+Jtmj/IE1gXM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:49:20 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906121149m1e878b76v5fc51ae62abd3364@mail.gmail.com> Subject: octave shifter and panning on the cheap From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Michael, > if you stay below 12 o'clock you avoid the chipmonk sound, if you so desire.....:)..... actually, there is a fine trick (I was pointed to by my Eventide thingie) to get the chipmunk sound even if you stay below 12 o'clock. Put two pitch shifters in sequence, one set to +24, the other set to -24. Same pitch, but all the chipmunkiness in the world... However, the ad banner in your message really is the corker, regarding recent discussions about laptops: "Shop Dell's full line of Laptops now starting at $349! " Thanks for making me laugh, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 19:01:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 163493BE8A; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:01:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YLiAvC2lyKEYmhmjSOke/pP82DYNxRWiGMxmcmeKONA=; b=YO4l6Da29YMbE7dNjzZ0n/Vz8t/sXaO9Td8TiMosHFlX8ACUd6fY0qOG2fkqJukn2Q jDDza5veZidFg5SDrcE9oLiLggUhsu1soB0aM3KH2VzfJ7LJ/gBADlxOJb5KJKu0SFWv cvUvdRbeecdHGQbJ7ViqW2DO/qbCfFWdFWegI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RA0YscSxUemI5dQrRSQCUs6DznlOmCV6P55C47KhGQboaF77k0e+Cf849OGngIVMOy TqTvWb/GLptR03rUFdIpU5H1cYOIXNg/NpVW80yBuhmnqA6PyRVioVTMv+m1qDxZebfF c8lvCE6CmResvzKpdPTwCSe/fUT3eo1CKWaJk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0906120948i2c08627dy16252929bd7cf0bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0906120948i2c08627dy16252929bd7cf0bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:01:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: computer stuff, Firewire etc. (was multiple threads) From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:01:51 +0000 (UTC) > So I'm still not sure which computer to get...well, perhaps I just > return to my eight-year old Toshiba. Works fine and has built-in TI > IEEE1394 (no USB2.0, though...) I hear you. Now I know why people (including myself) go to Macs. Simplicity. Yeah, you sacrifice choice and a high level of customization, but from what I can tell every Mac I ever bought was more or less a plug it in, plug in your peripherals, install your software and start working. I've never had a Mac fail on me in any way. The worst mac experience I ever had was on an old G4 something went kerfluy when upgrading from 10.1 to 10.2 and the machine became very unstable. I total strip down to zeros and reinstall and all was well. That's the only time I've ever had to do a full reinstall on a Mac. I've been doing research the last week and it's making me dizzy. From what I can tell the HPs use the coveted TI chipset for firewire. How would a lower end model fare for doing my looping shtick? Who knows? Seems uncharted territory. Half the people I speak to say "build your own." The other half say "don't build your own unless you enjoy pain." Type in any major brand of prebuilt PC and you'll get a a dozen reviews saying "It's pretty good." and dozens of pissed off people saying they suck. Going with a company that makes pre-built audio PCs is as expensive as buying a Mac (sometimes more so), so the idea of cheaper hardware to run Windows goes out the window. Anyway, my move away from the Mac was for one reason: Mobius. Now that there's a Mac version part of me thinks I should abandon this quest and turn to my 8 core G5 as my main looping system. I'll set that up this weekend and see how it goes... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 19:37:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 831043BE82; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:37:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=/Zms1sPF1uy0kgjGSWgwSnMMQtyM2U71WIrcw0kUoJk=; b=RLzu7pPyhFC4qRn/UjBUG8hIWrIkbwS0hUWl4swOwFymshjU2yXvoPa0EQCupjJl3w hP4IwO2o+UhumVzNBQSJSnFDDCfdat6aMsF8Zq1ex8yafuugOfFwvOGgBKJbhBokqmoo HsULeIhxt86xKgo1GZCawHa2J1BvZRSmowO8c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=jjqmYhnlnaRzjfY5ZGFN21BZGCM0svyHsqzfXvnTISXQdYLbHgZd0/O2k/yZ1UPT/T HiKP4GSL2F176DfndlogJvs43ZYFiujZIeaUzCHx1HTViNI2dNXtBbfXZ2wqx19Ffqf6 WpL6fq5J0ldiyV0kBohXl8l+Y+ikUFGkcW8SA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:37:35 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906121237t564b03br1583ec538f413d48@mail.gmail.com> Subject: ...must-buy-Oomingmak! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151757466222475b046c2bd7b8 Resent-Message-ID: <9cwVsD.A.HKG.A6qMKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:37:36 +0000 (UTC) --00151757466222475b046c2bd7b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just downloaded Oomingmak to check out and ohmigosh what a cool plug-in this is for flute playing! Documentation says it was designed for guitar and I think it may be cool with that instrument too, but not as seriously cool as with flute. I played like a maniac for 15 minutes until the "get-a-license-moron" message popped up on my lappy. http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/oomingmak.html Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --00151757466222475b046c2bd7b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just downloaded Oomingmak to check out and ohmigosh what a cool plug-i= n this is for flute playing! Documentation says it was designed for guitar = and I think it may be cool with that instrument too, but not as seriously c= ool as with flute. I played like a maniac for 15 minutes until the "ge= t-a-license-moron" message popped up on my lappy.=C2=A0

http://www= .expert-sleepers.co.uk/oomingmak.html=C2=A0

Gree= tings from Sweden

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--00151757466222475b046c2bd7b8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 19:39:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19C553BE8E; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sEt7llJGLkspfs1IuNPLUAsiM+IZf7RCqKLd4N46clo=; b=HbCI8gSP11dk7UEuZDkDEkBv0kAhmpWBSZn2V1ytPXZ2r5nLjU8gNsSj7jT16R3zuG VfQou1BnRfRgq5TIdE6ROvi+I3XM1wbIVAJAncvGcEZBhQdZUMc+rYUjdYXKHOxPgo9Y pB6gf9HCHQ9x/sLISl/PG0kjlj0P63sQzV8Eg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=FwwyJq0wIErTB7jRSf2Q46Z81wW+5ivhpSXoTmO2cT5a8AfsjmYqiEfA1+r1eBQ66H pY1m23QX+mL4lRxnJQUQFRaenDNytgT614By903SbTlX1HUqBA0AqDj3QOpENyFAhShM MVI1UKkFkAWKtHkWslH1f4z00zaw0uSwhkfuI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:39:39 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906121239j7d6ac183u31fd7d91a9376d77@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [GIG INFO]: Virtual Gig Reminder: "The MoinSound Studio Sessions", this Saturday at 1600 UTC From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Hi everyone, here's a quick reminder that this Saturday, the MoinSound Studio Sessions are due to air in their bi-weekly interval: Saturday, 13th of June, 16:00 UTC http://www.justin.tv/moinlabs (non-guaranteed time zone conversion: 19:00 in Finland and Turkey, 18:00 in Germany, Sweden, Switzerland and Italy, 5pm in Great Britain, noon in New York, 9am in California and Oregon). Feel free to also check out videos of session from the past at http://vimeo.com/moinlabs As a quick reminder, this Sunday there's both Stephen Moyes and Matt Stevens doing their thing. Come by and chat "hello" ;) Best, Rainer --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs http://justin.tv/moinlabs http://vimeo.com/moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 19:42:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 088703BE92; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PVBEZ++ox3hccDDOgXNESEeLy9Tkx8PlNoMZ0e0S9GE=; b=xFkWhMOIIdRVh3PPyP3cKtUE6Zxx8qEr/JwSSZ7JgN6NRVePlpJSUQK+uLh2hXtDil qeeaYeZDfdreoEsuvdDRURPABe28mdKcyeDE/s+b5JE95V01kLergIdQnd6asPO+dNqd djJ//PvYv6mrxGrTXhnftF9VGfReIhXi7KLg0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=MOczaGdMggFzj0F9JmT9k7iPW0fpPw4Bymy6LfG8+8tXb6YR97WoQJlZx/90MOEgre cJTIyFKj1G+2ZKtRBIBivKrrQ9BGjKx44tF4ykl1N3CI7qCTXgHDiR7QJko5GW98D6So Rw1cX9MR0tjmFbI9MRx2m4xE5zaEFnB3C/2qM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906121237t564b03br1583ec538f413d48@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0906121237t564b03br1583ec538f413d48@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:42:51 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eb7bec539de02947 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ...must-buy-Oomingmak! From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:42:52 +0000 (UTC) I look forward to hearing what sound you make with it! post some mp3s! cheers, os. 2009/6/12 Per Boysen : > Just downloaded Oomingmak to check out and ohmigosh what a cool plug-in this > is for flute playing! Documentation says it was designed for guitar and I > think it may be cool with that instrument too, but not as seriously cool as > with flute. I played like a maniac for 15 minutes until the > "get-a-license-moron" message popped up on my lappy. > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/oomingmak.html > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 19:55:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 727013BE85; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:55:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BnugGXKBRzjyp/X3GXal52gteiHYx8QsSNvM5ewmmHo=; b=s7T8KMO8Azu0sKF1BWXoqBTs3Fcp/xUNkIzWOROd9mKs+R43ab63QUnZd6eVPBTfo3 qx4R6wvjp6aCKG6SbGtGbzjFrjJ1eh3TtDiMtpXJ3wqaHW4bA3+yC3A69YeeKE57iuGM QfnYcnX6STrQNo9UulHj6SDpwne4DtVy3VACE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PC3gHDSoX7qQ0zjcnHbQIs0P0eofRx9Y1yHa0QoloHHobShw9NavgSLqs0YqgEM0U/ SyQwM9CeSzLiPqEOHGxvDaQCdww41jaq8n6wiJndvSaUHHQLOO8j3KjYdc1qD/RJcAqo ujxnHCkXyOzeenoizLbpKIZPbgsKGDDSy/DqA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0906121237t564b03br1583ec538f413d48@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:55:48 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906121255q792c5974u7f8cce2ebe1ece6f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ...must-buy-Oomingmak! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001e680f18bc48a427046c2c189d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:55:49 +0000 (UTC) --001e680f18bc48a427046c2c189d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Os wrote: > I look forward to hearing what sound you make with it! post some mp3s! Will record something in a couple of weeks. Right now I'm super busy, leaving tomorrow morning for a one week music training camp. But I will hopefully do a lot of live looping with Oomingmak while there with the students. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --001e680f18bc48a427046c2c189d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:
I look forward to hearing what sound you make with it! post some mp3s!

Will record something in a couple of = weeks. Right now I'm super busy, leaving tomorrow morning for a one wee= k music training camp. But I will hopefully do a lot of live looping with O= omingmak while there with the students.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen=C2=A0
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
--001e680f18bc48a427046c2c189d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 12 20:34:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0804B3BE85; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3cSifQwCZZlc9gV/xwbNmOeGr/i3XGD8G6qb44R9/Eg=; b=f+lK+hpUkRxXipDdsh8r0pGHOkRLlmY64y/fXLTo9l4kb48sWfshqIZMYyHewll06D BqbBogjthpTSLp1mNEvF3qjSnrmoT9l/1/U1wgw7IRHuG3IP9ECgsu8G+fGypUXEPQ5T ZizzUAmg9dq5juiUbUV1KN+IqR/V+1h3iHBIo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=dsqg3VqE9vlu922CPU0qWfpPGDwUEav0qmoFWHrHLsDy4Z+V4/FMAbPoN26zXSSF+t Mp1O1FnuR865So3fDPNFHpu1cMoHZ/bKbcWZGKMZQP7jZ6dSTYmbqm9A3/C89LCeY/aj jYe4ZjdW506iA1rVlhsqwzkX4mc/u7dKrP4Q8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906121255q792c5974u7f8cce2ebe1ece6f@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0906121237t564b03br1583ec538f413d48@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0906121255q792c5974u7f8cce2ebe1ece6f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:34:41 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ...must-buy-Oomingmak! From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f85ede55015f046c2ca3f5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:34:42 +0000 (UTC) --001485f85ede55015f046c2ca3f5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i've tried it too...it's nuts! On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Os wrote: > >> I look forward to hearing what sound you make with it! post some mp3s! > > > --001485f85ede55015f046c2ca3f5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i've tried it too...it's nuts!

On= Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Os <= ;os@collective.co.= uk> wrote:
I look forward to hearing what sound you make with it! post some mp3s!

--001485f85ede55015f046c2ca3f5-- From s.og048@msn.com Fri Jun 12 21:52:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 326 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:52:11 UTC Received: from bay0-omc2-s5.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s5.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.141]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D753BE6F for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:51:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY136-W25 ([65.55.141.60]) by bay0-omc2-s5.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:46:32 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_c870da55-74cb-40e1-b3f9-6b2459b701d4_" X-Originating-IP: [41.189.97.84] Reply-To: From: Sikeme Ogbeide Subject: From: Ms Sikeme Ogbeide Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:46:32 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jun 2009 21:46:32.0818 (UTC) FILETIME=[40557D20:01C9EBA7] To: undisclosed-recipients:; --_c870da55-74cb-40e1-b3f9-6b2459b701d4_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0245f619-9982-4409-aeb4-aeb6a85783cc_" --_0245f619-9982-4409-aeb4-aeb6a85783cc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Ms Sikeme Ogbeide =20 Dearest One=2C My Dear=2C please do not be upset due to the mail i sent to you=2C also bec= ause we have not met before but i know that we do not meet accidentally=2C = rather i meet you by the special grace of God when i found your profile ema= il address and after praying=2C i just hand over everything to Gods hand be= lieving that you must be a kind=2C sincere=2C faithful and understandable p= erson whom will understand me and assist me in this my current situation.=20 =20 Let me start by giving you an introduction of my self and my family backgro= und.=20 My real name is Miss Sikeme Ogbeide. I was born and brought up in Cote d'iv= oire on 03 march 1988 ( im 21 yrs old ) . Also i am the only surviving daug= hter parents. My mumy's name is Dr. Mrs. Gloria Bintu Ogbeide. My mum died = when i was four years old ( 12th dec 1992 ) and since then my dady took me = so special.=20 My Dady was a forma Senator here he was a well known wealthy cocoa merchant= before he went into politics and was elected into the senate seat=2C becau= se he was well know good man here. That also made him not to be in a good t= erm with his brothers ( my uncles ). which created a very big enemity betwe= en them. I have severally adviced my dady to send me abroad so that his ene= mies may not seek for me to kill or wound in order to wecked my dad=2C but = my dady refused saying that he needs me to stay with him due to that i am t= he only family he has.=20 =20 But unfortunately=2C My dady was killed last year when he attended a ceremo= ny in the village. he was brutaly killed and was shut severally by my uncle= s on his way back from a conference. but he do not die instantly and was ad= mited in a private hospital here and Before the death of my father in a pri= vate hospital here in Abidjan he secretly called me on his bed side and tol= d me that he has the sum of ten million=2Ceight hundred thousand United Sta= te Dollars.USD($18=2C700=2C000.00) left in fixed / suspense account in one = of the prime bank here in Abidjan=2Cthat he used my name as his only daught= er for the next of Kin in depositing of the fund. He also explained to me t= hat it was because of this wealth that he was shut by his brothers (my uncl= es).=20 That I should seek for a foreign partner in a country of my choice where i = will transfer this money and use it for investment purpose such as real est= ate management or hotel management so that i can secure my life too and be = out from my uncles for my dear life .=20 Right now I am stranded and have ran out from the city to a nearby village = because my uncles have turned out trying to eliminate me too because they w= anted to inherrit all hat my dady has. but thank God i found one pastor Mic= hael whom have been of a good assistance to me. He accommodated me in his c= hurch when i explained everything to him=2C and was giving me a finnancial = accomodation till i finds a patner overseas whom will help me to transfer m= y inherritance abroad while i travels to join him and start up a new life. = So my dear i am seeking your assistance in the following ways:=20 =20 1) To help me transfer this fund to your country because i have discused wi= th the bank about my intensions to transfer my inherritance abroad which th= ey have accepted.=20 2) to serve as a guardian of this fund since i am only 21yrs old.=20 3) To make arrangement for me to come over to your country to further my ed= ucation and to secure a resident permit in your country.=20 =20 Moreover=2C My dear I am willing to offer you 15% of the total sum as compe= nsation for your effort/input after the successful transfer of this fund in= to your nominated account overseas.=20 Furthermore=2C you indicate your options towards assisting me as I believe = that this transaction would be concluded within fourteen (14) days you sign= ify interest to assist me. =20 I am looking foward to your hopeful respond and may God be with you.=20 =20 =20 Yours Sincerely=2C =20 Sikeme Ogbeide. --_0245f619-9982-4409-aeb4-aeb6a85783cc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Ms Sikeme Ogbeide
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Dearest One=2C
My Dear=2C please do not be upset due to the mail i sent to you=2C also bec= ause we have not met before but i know that we do not meet accidentally=2C = rather i meet you by the special grace of God when i found your profile ema= il address and after praying=2C i just hand over everything to Gods hand be= lieving that you must be a kind=2C sincere=2C faithful and understandable p= erson whom will understand me and assist me in this my current situation. <= BR> =3B
Let me start by giving you an introduction of my self and my= family background.
My real name is Miss Sikeme Ogbeide. I was born and= brought up in Cote d'ivoire on 03 march 1988 ( im 21 yrs old ) . Also i am= the only surviving daughter parents. My mumy's name is Dr. Mrs. Gloria Bin= tu Ogbeide. My mum died when i was four years old ( 12th dec 1992 ) and sin= ce then my dady took me so special.
My Dady was a forma Senator here he was a well known wealthy cocoa merchant= before he went into politics and was elected into the senate seat=2C becau= se he was well know good man here. That also made him not to be in a good t= erm with his brothers ( my uncles ). which created a very big enemity betwe= en them. I have severally adviced my dady to send me abroad so that his ene= mies may not seek for me to kill or wound in order to wecked my dad=2C but = my dady refused saying that he needs me to stay with him due to that i am t= he only family he has.
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But unfortunately=2C My dady was kil= led last year when he attended a ceremony in the village. he was brutaly ki= lled and was shut severally by my uncles on his way back from a conference.= but he do not die instantly and was admited in a private hospital here and= Before the death of my father in a private hospital here in Abidjan he sec= retly called me on his bed side and told me that he has the sum of ten mill= ion=2Ceight hundred thousand United State Dollars.USD($18=2C700=2C000.00) l= eft in fixed / suspense account in one of the prime bank here in Abidjan=2C= that he used my name as his only daughter for the next of Kin in depositing= of the fund. He also explained to me that it was because of this wealth th= at he was shut by his brothers (my uncles).
That I should seek for a foreign partner in a country of my choice where i = will transfer this money and use it for investment purpose such as real est= ate management or hotel management so that i can secure my life too and be = out from my uncles for my dear life .
Right now I am stranded and have = ran out from the city to a nearby village because my uncles have turned out= trying to eliminate me too because they wanted to inherrit all hat my dady= has. but thank God i found one pastor Michael whom have been of a good ass= istance to me. He accommodated me in his church when i explained everything= to him=2C and was giving me a finnancial accomodation till i finds a patne= r overseas whom will help me to transfer my inherritance abroad while i tra= vels to join him and start up a new life. So my dear i am seeking your assi= stance in the following ways:
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1) To help me transfer this f= und to your country because i have discused with the bank about my intensio= ns to transfer my inherritance abroad which they have accepted.
2) to s= erve as a guardian of this fund since i am only 21yrs old.
3) To make a= rrangement for me to come over to your country to further my education and = to secure a resident permit in your country.
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Moreover=2C My= dear I am willing to offer you 15% of the total sum as compensation for yo= ur effort/input after the successful transfer of this fund into your nomina= ted account overseas.
Furthermore=2C you indicate your options towards assisting me as I believe = that this transaction would be concluded within fourteen (14) days you sign= ify interest to assist me.
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I am looking foward to your hopef= ul respond and may God be with you.
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Yours Since= rely=2C
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Sikeme Ogbeide.

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79B533BE84; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:08:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 6000 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:08:30 UTC X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:21:15 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Aaron Leese Subject: Re: New free toys in Mac v10.5 In-Reply-To: <7.1.0.9.0.20090612072437.0434e048@flyloops.com> References: <7.1.0.9.0.20090612072437.0434e048@flyloops.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Message-Id: <20090613010830.0D0583BE72@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:08:30 +0000 (UTC) Hmmm ... not sure this made it the frirst time ... strange ...... >Yeah, from a programmers point of view ......woohoo! > >I was just looking at some of those libraries again lately .... for >anyone else who happens to write C++, the documentation on Macs >Cocoa API includes these libraries ... they are well written and >comprehensive (the docs and the libraries). > >And yes, you can send clock signals from AU plugins to host apps ... >though I should mention that very view apps actually utilize this as >it makes for pretty intense code (dynamic bpm is one of those things >not so well handled as it is). > >Branching to BPM tracking/shifting ...... > >Most external sources have rather shotty clocks (+-1ms is typical >jitter) ... which is crappy and hard to handle. > >Internal sources are much better, but then you have to ask the >question what happens when we shift bpm on some track that is >already playing ? For midi instruments and traccks its not a >problem, you just play the notes faster ... but for recorded audio >you need to either: > >1) shift the freq to play quicker (and then the pitch changes) or .. >2) splice the audio (cut from on position to another, fading in >between to avoid audio nonlinearities) > >Number 2 is the way to go, but most applications haven't really >gotten there yet. I have been looking at this a lot lately because >it's an area of personal interest for me. You can devise beat >splicing algorithms that follow certain beats (straight, triplets, >clave, etc) and then intelligently splice from segment to segment if >you know the initial bpm of the audio recording .... for long >recordings this is difficult, but for short ones (ie loops) this is >quite simple. Much cooler is when you stack/overdub on these loops >AFTER they have been spliced/bpm shifted. > >For example ... take a loop and speed it up to 3x normal play, but >use a splicing algorithm that splits it up and plays segments that >fall where triplets would be on the clip. Now stack/overdub on that >track and make some noise ....... when you re-sync the loop to >normal play, the result will be the recorded audio after the inverse >of the bpm shift (which is a recording that exists only where the >triplets would be on the audio clip). This way you can devise some >pretty wild beats ...... > >Anyway, thats my 2 cents .. ciao >A > > > >At 02:14 AM 6/12/2009, you wrote: >> > - New audio unit properties in the Audio Unit framework that let audio >> > units send MIDI data to host applications >> >>Like sending midi clock from a looper au-plugin? That would be great! >> >>--- >>Sjaak >>http://euroloopfest.com/ >>http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ >> >> >>__________________________________ >>Scarlet schrapt download limiet! >>Scarlet NO LIMIT nu slechts 19,95 EUR >>Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From leedija.sh@pochta.ru Sat Jun 13 03:57:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3467 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:57:53 UTC Received: from mail.rkmail.ru (mail.rkmail.ru [93.190.206.137]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063EF3BE46 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rkmail.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06CEFBDC3A; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:25:56 +0400 (MSD) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rkmail.ru Received: from mail.rkmail.ru ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.rkmail.ru [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dhkop4O1Fx7l; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:25:43 +0400 (MSD) Received: from tubular-svr (mail.tubms.com [58.185.72.242]) (Authenticated sender: likiruli@rkmail.ru) by mail.rkmail.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AE4C4633; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:45:56 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <5E2627D38D8F4E55974EBA64FBADF3A1@tubular-svr> Reply-To: "leedija" From: "leedija" Subject: hi Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:45:19 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0DC9_01C9EC0B.A9C623E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 To: undisclosed-recipients:; This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0DC9_01C9EC0B.A9C623E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0DCA_01C9EC0B.A9C623E0" ------=_NextPart_001_0DCA_01C9EC0B.A9C623E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello! 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Hello!
It=92s a great pleasure to write you.
Do not think= that this letter is a mistake. I do write you.
I want to explain the reason of= my writing. And tell you a few words about myself. Please, do not be afraid= of my letter. That is not spam.
Well, first of all, my name is Leedija. I= =92m 32. I=92m single and do not have children. I live in Russia in the city= Murom.
There were a lot of different moments in my life; there was happiness, sorrow,= joy and disappointment. But now I face a great problem, it is a problem of= loneliness. I was married but at this moment I am a widow. I couldn=92t believe it for= a long time ... I couldn=92t believe that I=92m alone...
You know, after my= husband=92s death I was loyal to him but now I=92ve realized that life goes on and I= should continue my life as well. However for me the word =93to live=94 is to be= with a loved person and give him all my love.
That is why I addressed the international agency Dating. It is in my city Murom. I wrote a letter to= you and left my photo. Well, I suppose, if you read this letter it means that= the manager of the agency wrote you. His duty is to inform you and to find= right partners to each other.
So, I=92ll continue writing about myself. I= =92m looking for serious relations. I=92m looking for a man who will be able to love= me and to love me as I am. A person who will be able to love my inner world, my= body, my appearance, well, to love me all.
My picture will help= you to get a first impression about me.
As for me, I=92d like to say that= my heart is open for a new love story. I realized that I have to live, to love and= be loved. I want to live and enjoy this life, but not alone. And I want to make it= with you.
I=92d like to say that age difference is nothing for me. It= doesn=92t mean anything. It is much more important what personality a man has.
What= concerns me, I=92m affectionate and considerate. I=92m fond of cooking and doing= housework. However I also have a desire to have adventures. I love pets as= well.
I want it so much to make our correspondence possible.
I will be very happy= to see your letters at my e-mail. (leedija.sh@gmail.com)
Wish= you all the best.
Take care.
Your Leedija.
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amavisd-new at rkmail.ru Received: from mail.rkmail.ru ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.rkmail.ru [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pCkrK004JuNk; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:25:31 +0400 (MSD) Received: from tubular-svr (tubular-svr.tubms.com [58.185.72.242]) (Authenticated sender: likiruli@rkmail.ru) by mail.rkmail.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6334BBD2C9; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:45:36 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <12F42220F15A495ABD0021A321499F9D@tubular-svr> Reply-To: "leedija" From: "leedija" Subject: hi Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:44:59 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0DC4_01C9EC0B.9DC74F10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 To: undisclosed-recipients:; This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0DC4_01C9EC0B.9DC74F10 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0DC5_01C9EC0B.9DC74F10" ------=_NextPart_001_0DC5_01C9EC0B.9DC74F10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello! It=92s a great pleasure to write you. Do not think that this letter is a mistake. I do write you. I want to explain the reason of my writing. And tell you a few words= about myself. Please, do not be afraid of my letter. That is not spam. Well, first of all, my name is Leedija. I=92m 32. I=92m single and do= not have children. I live in Russia in the city Murom. There were a lot of different moments in my life; there was happiness,= sorrow, joy and disappointment. But now I face a great problem, it is a= problem of loneliness. I was married but at this moment I am a widow. I= couldn=92t believe it for a long time ... I couldn=92t believe that I= =92m alone... You know, after my husband=92s death I was loyal to him but now I=92ve= realized that life goes on and I should continue my life as well.= However for me the word =93to live=94 is to be with a loved person and= give him all my love. That is why I addressed the international agency Dating. It is in my= city Murom. I wrote a letter to you and left my photo. Well, I suppose,= if you read this letter it means that the manager of the agency wrote= you. His duty is to inform you and to find right partners to each= other. So, I=92ll continue writing about myself. I=92m looking for serious= relations. I=92m looking for a man who will be able to love me and to= love me as I am. A person who will be able to love my inner world, my= body, my appearance, well, to love me all. My picture will help you to get a first impression about me. As for me, I=92d like to say that my heart is open for a new love story.= I realized that I have to live, to love and be loved. I want to live= and enjoy this life, but not alone. And I want to make it with you. I=92d like to say that age difference is nothing for me. It doesn=92t= mean anything. It is much more important what personality a man has. What concerns me, I=92m affectionate and considerate. I=92m fond of= cooking and doing housework. 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Hello!
It=92s a great pleasure to write you.
Do not think= that this letter is a mistake. I do write you.
I want to explain the reason of= my writing. And tell you a few words about myself. Please, do not be afraid= of my letter. That is not spam.
Well, first of all, my name is Leedija. I= =92m 32. I=92m single and do not have children. I live in Russia in the city= Murom.
There were a lot of different moments in my life; there was happiness, sorrow,= joy and disappointment. But now I face a great problem, it is a problem of= loneliness. I was married but at this moment I am a widow. I couldn=92t believe it for= a long time ... I couldn=92t believe that I=92m alone...
You know, after my= husband=92s death I was loyal to him but now I=92ve realized that life goes on and I= should continue my life as well. However for me the word =93to live=94 is to be= with a loved person and give him all my love.
That is why I addressed the international agency Dating. It is in my city Murom. I wrote a letter to= you and left my photo. Well, I suppose, if you read this letter it means that= the manager of the agency wrote you. His duty is to inform you and to find= right partners to each other.
So, I=92ll continue writing about myself. I= =92m looking for serious relations. I=92m looking for a man who will be able to love= me and to love me as I am. A person who will be able to love my inner world, my= body, my appearance, well, to love me all.
My picture will help= you to get a first impression about me.
As for me, I=92d like to say that= my heart is open for a new love story. I realized that I have to live, to love and= be loved. I want to live and enjoy this life, but not alone. And I want to make it= with you.
I=92d like to say that age difference is nothing for me. It= doesn=92t mean anything. It is much more important what personality a man has.
What= concerns me, I=92m affectionate and considerate. I=92m fond of cooking and doing= housework. However I also have a desire to have adventures. I love pets as= well.
I want it so much to make our correspondence possible.
I will be very happy= to see your letters at my e-mail. (leedija.sh@gmail.com)
Wish= you all the best.
Take care.
Your Leedija.
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(Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Mobius, Question for Per Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:40:50 -0700 References: <66f9cc1e0906121237t564b03br1583ec538f413d48@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: <9g_VnC.A.4EG.7MzMKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:03:55 +0000 (UTC) So, forgive me if I'm missing something obvious, but how do you get input into the stand-alone version of Mobius? (I assume you must be able to or why have a stand alone?) I get a Mobius Configuration Error (Unaboe to open audio output device) when I open just Mobius, perhaps that's it. Or do you use Mobius as a concert level plugin on a bus in Mainstage? I believe I tried this but didn't see it on the lower patches as expected... If you use it like this is it so that you can feed the midi timing information back into Mainstage (for effects and whatnot? I had more success routing Mobius as a plugin in an Ableton Live bus, but the only midi/timing/quantizing setting that seemed to work somewhat as expected was Sync Mode=Host Bar with Qantize Mode and Switch Quantize both set to Cycle. I'm pretty familiar with the Echoplex preferences but the behavior when I try pretty much any other setting. I tried the looper in Ableton (hoping I could have that sense my tempo based on my start then send the cycle timing to Mobius) but that looper seems really weird to me and ultimately I'd rather already be playing and start loops/set timing with a foot press rather then start a loop at the same time I start playing. In other words, I'd rather do it echoplex style and have my sofware follow MY beat, as you say in your blog. Is it possible to use Mainstage, Ableton, and Reason all together with Mobius and have those other programs pick up the timing/quantize information from Mobius? Thank you so much. You're passion for this makes it easier to ask for help and sometimes I get so stuck on hooking these things up.... This is the right path though, I'm sure of it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 13 06:32:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8D733BE81; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:references; bh=pUhJmnlWF4XjhiQLDYH2nsH4z45JpumCTmtFE97/BfY=; b=Xm+sHA+jo9Ot9mXU1vjSui1KBxMkqam6VgQiHPRW+I+jz25fqRa/IYkXaD2TvDaAlR y7d8EEFyBEKgthAvYWEkYcOrGuo9p2vscriBJiUw6hqXkQKafpqTWaG3YgfcIBe2ENsq DMrzuAOX1ZjSoj3vpTQeE+Oo+IMH562u2lV4U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; b=UkcjSnC9OM+hUhm1To3jN/CneLlwqEHaY+kay3lm9OzgQyutF4rKT/zc/rH+BKHRai E13fvzDzQN/B078pk//UZEgMcyDJfxbj99XsIoh8gptLv8fzAeWX+wRHOkw1myDuonYj JpZdCvmySUefFXUcnI7keS/CmqswiTiAvkMik= Message-Id: <99A2A6F9-3B80-46F2-90BB-305E298FFA2B@gmail.com> From: Mark Sottilaro To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: <19EBCCE8-AAF4-471C-91E3-951FDA7EC798@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5H11) Subject: Re: Mobius, Question for Per Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:24:54 -0700 References: <66f9cc1e0906121237t564b03br1583ec538f413d48@mail.gmail.com> <19EBCCE8-AAF4-471C-91E3-951FDA7EC798@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:32:00 +0000 (UTC) I know in Live 8 the included Looper plug-in allows you to set the tempo based on your first loop. I've only used it for simple things so far, but I imagine that with a clever set up you could do quite a lot with it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 12, 2009, at 9:40 PM, David Hayes wrote: > > So, forgive me if I'm missing something obvious, but how do you get > input into the stand-alone version of Mobius? (I assume you must be > able to or why have a stand alone?) I get a Mobius Configuration > Error (Unaboe to open audio output device) when I open just Mobius, > perhaps that's it. > > Or do you use Mobius as a concert level plugin on a bus in > Mainstage? I believe I tried this but didn't see it on the lower > patches as expected... If you use it like this is it so that you > can feed the midi timing information back into Mainstage (for > effects and whatnot? > > I had more success routing Mobius as a plugin in an Ableton Live > bus, but the only midi/timing/quantizing setting that seemed to work > somewhat as expected was Sync Mode=Host Bar with Qantize Mode and > Switch Quantize both set to Cycle. I'm pretty familiar with the > Echoplex preferences but the behavior when I try pretty much any > other setting. > > I tried the looper in Ableton (hoping I could have that sense my > tempo based on my start then send the cycle timing to Mobius) but > that looper seems really weird to me and ultimately I'd rather > already be playing and start loops/set timing with a foot press > rather then start a loop at the same time I start playing. In other > words, I'd rather do it echoplex style and have my sofware follow MY > beat, as you say in your blog. > > Is it possible to use Mainstage, Ableton, and Reason all together > with Mobius and have those other programs pick up the timing/ > quantize information from Mobius? > > Thank you so much. You're passion for this makes it easier to ask > for help and sometimes I get so stuck on hooking these things > up.... 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West Africa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 13 10:16:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 848B83BE71; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:16:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=h0PCZBx801wwhfhvB0nR67Um9kDRZ7RG29BLeFNa7pw=; b=P+osXGnxAPwK53qdpiuxxbuS5M8H7Hwp59afobxwiWeEK3tDugjmGsZr5BoyNn+K7j XH0E9l81MSSnz426OsjJPbjcD3zgfP7SZRDvA6QM65pGA3b8mqTtM+bAxCYgh99qDKRk OweRsxii0LKELX+lo6tHY3MOkqCf5ur6MXdH0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Yo6GSltIG+OOLUhUsdSyMGiGqr2EVDjAL94k7vHTT15AyEuRE0NkKxjwHEw23K3SK2 SaniLW9VujINOjUFHgKd6dofoMY62UMbKL8JntTBk/w2zqGEHGErAzhQne/08uak5kwe +fZoz0/BhGn0j4Pn3LTztAAYjFvupa8n1jI1o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19EBCCE8-AAF4-471C-91E3-951FDA7EC798@gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0906121237t564b03br1583ec538f413d48@mail.gmail.com> <19EBCCE8-AAF4-471C-91E3-951FDA7EC798@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:16:32 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906130316w1e5ddc1fq81a5c833b263544b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Mobius, Question for Per From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:16:33 +0000 (UTC) om On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 6:40 AM, David Hayes wrote: > > how do you get input into the stand-alone version of Mobius? ( If you mean audio input you may set that in the "Configuration/Track Setup" window. You may set the same hardware input for all tracks or you may route audio from different inputs to certain tracks. > Or do you use Mobius as a concert level plugin on a bus in Mainstage? This is also possible. Either set Mobius to not monitor output and open it on a bus, to which you send signal from each patch's channel strip by the bus send knob, or set Mobius to monitor output and open it on the final stereo output of Mainstage. > =C2=A0If you use it like this is it so that you can feed the midi timing = information back into Mainstage (for effects and whatnot? In order to have all tempo dependent Mainstage effects run musically related to the loops you make. Simply have Mobius send out MIDI Clock through OS X IAC Bus (select it in Mobius MIDI Device Selection window) and tic the box named "Get temp from audio input" in Mainstage (at concert level, click concert name at top of patch list). > > Is it possible to use Mainstage, Ableton, and Reason all together with Mo= bius and have those other programs pick up the timing/quantize information = from Mobius? Don't know. Try it! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 13 10:22:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 688283BE78; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Jd9cTdRznxi9KQF64KVpC9vaSyyBGOxSe2LHJlA+6X0=; b=ZBQBRmFyKSQf1Ko7P/Tfzy52B3cOoR+5wFGXU2KkP4cRAzbGAxZ67bhHycUkRdZPEB nKyvzs/wPIfAeooSl4VeKXzZutZ6A0frmW8LQxSE1Uo0KXeDQ7F6R3P5mKpoa3F1+O2u DOTI6/uGve1r70+MxlnA2yt/7Oj/bUR0U9dqw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ptDVUyKEpACb6rULT365OxpAhgcq8UtNg/0/AZZFaAQJxtl/4WNioN4T9F53vzhO/u r7cuT0HP0yZaa15xEPmDDmzHMECUXeLefkgTeipPorOemyfQdnXI8ZlIdoe4x3Zbkfaf HMCF7e/PX/zYxDT6YSLexGcu9+FVVbeBh4wqE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:22:36 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60906130322n49dd4addxdf31abbc46314b4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Slightly OT: new work from recent webstream From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5c2f12c8285046c38342e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:22:38 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5c2f12c8285046c38342e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From my last weekend's live webcast on Sunday Morning at 11I pulled one of the 12 string acoustic pieces I did and edited some imagery from a hike on a trip to New Mexico in 2007. Though this piece is non-looped it was as is most of work these days, all improv. Have a look listen at your leisure/interest, http://www.vimeo.com/5137712. On the bi-weekly series I'm doing a mix of looped and linear improv. The complete feed archive recording is at http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1620236 . Good weekend folks. Jim -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey... jimgoodin.bandcamp.com/album/ct-project-reuse music links... jimgoodin.blogspot.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5c2f12c8285046c38342e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From my last weekend's live webcast on Sunday Morning at 11 I pulled one of the= 12 string acoustic pieces I did and edited some imagery from a hike on a t= rip to New Mexico in 2007. =A0Though this piece is non-looped it was as is = most of work these days, all improv. =A0Have a look listen at your leisure/= interest,=A0http://www.vimeo.com/5= 137712.

On the bi-weekly series I'm doing a mix of looped and li= near improv. =A0The complete feed archive recording is at=A0http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1620236.

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does anyone know this funny little gadget?

http://w= ww.sdiy.org/knas/products/moisturizer/media.php

thinking about getting me one.

Von: Jim = Goodin [mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Samstag, 13. = Juni 2009 12:23
An: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Betreff: Slightly OT: new = work from recent webstream

From my last weekend's live webcast on Sunday = Morning at 11 I pulled one of the 12 string acoustic pieces I did and edited some = imagery from a hike on a trip to New Mexico in 2007. Though this piece is non-looped it was as is most of work these days, all improv. Have = a look listen at your leisure/interest, http://www.vimeo.com/5137712.

On the bi-weekly series I'm doing a mix of looped and linear = improv. The complete feed archive recording is at http://www.ustream.tv/rec= orded/1620236.

Good weekend = folks.

Jim

--
ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey...
jimgoodin.b= andcamp.com/album/ct-project-reuse

music links...
jimgoodin.blogspot.com

www.chinapaintingmusic.com=
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinm= usic
www.myspace.com/chinap= aintingmusic
www.myspace.com/ji= mgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
= www.youtube.com/jimgoodinm= usic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindig= ital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinm= usic

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Do not think= that this letter is a mistake. I do write you.
I want to explain the reason of= my writing. And tell you a few words about myself. Please, do not be afraid= of my letter. That is not spam.
Well, first of all, my name is Leedija. I= =92m 32. I=92m single and do not have children. I live in Russia in the city= Murom.
There were a lot of different moments in my life; there was happiness, sorrow,= joy and disappointment. But now I face a great problem, it is a problem of= loneliness. I was married but at this moment I am a widow. I couldn=92t believe it for= a long time ... I couldn=92t believe that I=92m alone...
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X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rkmail.ru Received: from mail.rkmail.ru ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.rkmail.ru [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D8LvSZu4+P8f; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:00:10 +0400 (MSD) Received: from taskhub (unknown [58.185.74.238]) (Authenticated sender: likirulik@rkmail.ru) by mail.rkmail.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9C4F4B09; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:56:13 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <08568C90D39846409EAA6179DB896FD1@taskhub> Reply-To: "leedija" From: "leedija" Subject: hello Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:55:33 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=neXtPaRt_1244906893" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 To: undisclosed-recipients:; ------=neXtPaRt_1244906893 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_19E6_01C9EC82.7088FFE0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_19E6_01C9EC82.7088FFE0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_19E7_01C9EC82.7088FFE0" ------=_NextPart_001_19E7_01C9EC82.7088FFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello! It=92s a great pleasure to write you. Do not think that this letter is a mistake. I do write you. I want to explain the reason of my writing. And tell you a few words= about myself. Please, do not be afraid of my letter. That is not spam. Well, first of all, my name is Leedija. I=92m 32. I=92m single and do= not have children. I live in Russia in the city Murom. There were a lot of different moments in my life; there was happiness,= sorrow, joy and disappointment. But now I face a great problem, it is a= problem of loneliness. I was married but at this moment I am a widow. I= couldn=92t believe it for a long time ... I couldn=92t believe that I= =92m alone... You know, after my husband=92s death I was loyal to him but now I=92ve= realized that life goes on and I should continue my life as well.= However for me the word =93to live=94 is to be with a loved person and= give him all my love. That is why I addressed the international agency Dating. It is in my= city Murom. I wrote a letter to you and left my photo. Well, I suppose,= if you read this letter it means that the manager of the agency wrote= you. His duty is to inform you and to find right partners to each= other. So, I=92ll continue writing about myself. I=92m looking for serious= relations. I=92m looking for a man who will be able to love me and to= love me as I am. A person who will be able to love my inner world, my= body, my appearance, well, to love me all. My picture will help you to get a first impression about me. As for me, I=92d like to say that my heart is open for a new love story.= I realized that I have to live, to love and be loved. I want to live= and enjoy this life, but not alone. And I want to make it with you. I=92d like to say that age difference is nothing for me. It doesn=92t= mean anything. It is much more important what personality a man has. What concerns me, I=92m affectionate and considerate. I=92m fond of= cooking and doing housework. However I also have a desire to have= adventures. I love pets as well. I want it so much to make our correspondence possible. I will be very happy to see your letters at my e-mail.= (leedija.sh@gmail.com) Wish you all the best. Take care. Your Leedija. ------=_NextPart_001_19E7_01C9EC82.7088FFE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello!
It=92s a great pleasure to write you.
Do not think= that this letter is a mistake. I do write you.
I want to explain the reason of= my writing. And tell you a few words about myself. Please, do not be afraid= of my letter. That is not spam.
Well, first of all, my name is Leedija. I= =92m 32. I=92m single and do not have children. I live in Russia in the city= Murom.
There were a lot of different moments in my life; there was happiness, sorrow,= joy and disappointment. But now I face a great problem, it is a problem of= loneliness. I was married but at this moment I am a widow. I couldn=92t believe it for= a long time ... I couldn=92t believe that I=92m alone...
You know, after my= husband=92s death I was loyal to him but now I=92ve realized that life goes on and I= should continue my life as well. However for me the word =93to live=94 is to be= with a loved person and give him all my love.
That is why I addressed the international agency Dating. It is in my city Murom. I wrote a letter to= you and left my photo. Well, I suppose, if you read this letter it means that= the manager of the agency wrote you. His duty is to inform you and to find= right partners to each other.
So, I=92ll continue writing about myself. I= =92m looking for serious relations. I=92m looking for a man who will be able to love= me and to love me as I am. A person who will be able to love my inner world, my= body, my appearance, well, to love me all.
My picture will help= you to get a first impression about me.
As for me, I=92d like to say that= my heart is open for a new love story. I realized that I have to live, to love and= be loved. I want to live and enjoy this life, but not alone. And I want to make it= with you.
I=92d like to say that age difference is nothing for me. It= doesn=92t mean anything. It is much more important what personality a man has.
What= concerns me, I=92m affectionate and considerate. I=92m fond of cooking and doing= housework. However I also have a desire to have adventures. I love pets as= well.
I want it so much to make our correspondence possible.
I will be very happy= to see your letters at my e-mail. (leedija.sh@gmail.com)
Wish= you all the best.
Take care.
Your Leedija.
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c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=AFN9WrA5YoRlmZV67Gi6jejtegMl6+SMz1tTG0wZfQA=; b=noXNgIO5Ebc8GOKmC3EJzILrcXne/Ek7CxNMnsykoRTC8XUc8ytlbWG+IuYt3C7+cv fBmHmDVeVMKlS9l/kMwWZuiSruby9pWMJ+g1CctR1vfvKMufSC2MDP1T0b2pgVpaa16S Hok5qZX6LT2EGyWYOj/kmv7txasAxEO35cFB0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=tzmlhQHgNoDp6bA9wkaUAUt1fqvQu8fWWjRV/ssviWfHUKpTvIYjSPlhfNP0vTWfTY omKqg5/KE+v5PhJzrucYs5y42K4EmxAzD6NkTaOK9wBkOACLE0GMTDJVK402UEtJOCAO iW0SBW9Ga0egFyRd/Hr+qHEJvjUkBi1HCTKwc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:50:56 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ac0d540e30f78ff0 Message-ID: <101191640906131150l2207339g5d747006bc986f83@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Way OT: Living Room Receiver From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016361e89621fcae7046c3f4e82 Resent-Message-ID: <6c71XC.A.1JD.QU_MKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:50:56 +0000 (UTC) --0016361e89621fcae7046c3f4e82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, I know you all are going to have some great advice for me here. The receiver that we use in the living room to power a modest stereo system (a pair of Infinity speakers with 8" woofers) for general background music purposes just died. It is probably15 years old. A lot has changed since I bought a receiver. I feel like Rip Van Winkle. Since I have a new tv from the beginning of 2008, I am debating between going for a simple replacement; i.e., a simple stereo home amp (actually, the "receiver" part is useless out here in the woods anyway) or buying a kind of low-end home theater audio system complete with receiver and speakers. It's not that important for me to have surround sound, but if it weren't too much extra $$, maybe this is a good time for it. I was hoping to spend under $200 for the amp alone, wouldn't want to spend much more than $300 for a home theater system. Not averse to something used - there are a few deals on Amazon that look good, I just don't even know whether home theater systems in that range are even worth thinking about. Thanks for any light you can shed. Best, Warren --0016361e89621fcae7046c3f4e82 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, I know you all are going to have some great advice for me here.

= The receiver that we use in the living room to power a modest stereo system= (a pair of Infinity speakers with 8" woofers) for general background = music purposes just died. It is probably15 years old. A lot has changed sin= ce I bought a receiver. I feel like Rip Van Winkle.

Since I have a new tv from the beginning of 2008, I am debating between= going for a simple replacement; i.e., a simple stereo home amp (actually, = the "receiver" part is useless out here in the woods anyway) or b= uying a kind of low-end home theater audio system complete with receiver an= d speakers. It's not that important for me to have surround sound, but = if it weren't too much extra $$, maybe this is a good time for it.

I was hoping to spend under $200 for the amp alone, wouldn't want t= o spend much more than $300 for a home theater system. Not averse to someth= ing used - there are a few deals on Amazon that look good, I just don't= even know whether home theater systems in that range are even worth thinki= ng about.

Thanks for any light you can shed.

Best,
Warren
--0016361e89621fcae7046c3f4e82-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 13 19:36:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBCAA3BE80; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:36:57 UTC X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:16:40 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Aaron Leese Subject: Re: New free toys in Mac v10.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Message-Id: <20090613193657.7DE403BE72@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, from a programmers point of view ......woohoo! I was just looking at some of those libraries again lately .... for anyone else who happens to write C++, the documentation on Macs Cocoa API includes these libraries ... they are well written and comprehensive (the docs and the libraries). And yes, you can send clock signals from AU plugins to host apps ... though I should mention that very view apps actually utilize this as it makes for pretty intense code (dynamic bpm is one of those things not so well handled as it is). Branching to BPM tracking/shifting ...... Most external sources have rather shotty clocks (+-1ms is typical jitter) ... which is crappy and hard to handle. Internal sources are much better, but then you have to ask the question what happens when we shift bpm on some track that is already playing ? For midi instruments and traccks its not a problem, you just play the notes faster ... but for recorded audio you need to either: 1) shift the freq to play quicker (and then the pitch changes) or .. 2) splice the audio (cut from on position to another, fading in between to avoid audio nonlinearities) Number 2 is the way to go, but most applications haven't really gotten there yet. I have been looking at this a lot lately because it's an area of personal interest for me. You can devise beat splicing algorithms that follow certain beats (straight, triplets, clave, etc) and then intelligently splice from segment to segment if you know the initial bpm of the audio recording .... for long recordings this is difficult, but for short ones (ie loops) this is quite simple. Much cooler is when you stack/overdub on these loops AFTER they have been spliced/bpm shifted. For example ... take a loop and speed it up to 3x normal play, but use a splicing algorithm that splits it up and plays segments that fall where triplets would be on the clip. Now stack/overdub on that track and make some noise ....... when you re-sync the loop to normal play, the result will be the recorded audio after the inverse of the bpm shift (which is a recording that exists only where the triplets would be on the audio clip). This way you can devise some pretty wild beats ...... Anyway, thats my 2 cents .. ciao A At 02:14 AM 6/12/2009, you wrote: > > - New audio unit properties in the Audio Unit framework that let audio > > units send MIDI data to host applications > >Like sending midi clock from a looper au-plugin? That would be great! > >--- >Sjaak >http://euroloopfest.com/ >http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > > >__________________________________ >Scarlet schrapt download limiet! >Scarlet NO LIMIT nu slechts 19,95 EUR >Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 13 20:11:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13D1D3BE78; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 214341829/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.141.2/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.141.2 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhACACulM0pPTo0C/2dsb2JhbAAI0C+EDQWIcg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,215,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="214341829" Message-ID: <4A340B08.7040700@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:24:40 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Way OT: Living Room Receiver References: <101191640906131150l2207339g5d747006bc986f83@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <101191640906131150l2207339g5d747006bc986f83@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0vUl8.A.umF.yfANKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Warren Sirota wrote: > I was hoping to spend under $200 for the amp alone, wouldn't want to > spend much more than $300 for a home theater system. Not averse to > something used - there are a few deals on Amazon that look good, I just > don't even know whether home theater systems in that range are even > worth thinking about. > > Thanks for any light you can shed. > I'd say stick with stereo if you're on a budget. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 13 22:56:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED46F3BE81; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:56:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <101191640906131150l2207339g5d747006bc986f83@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Way OT: Living Room Receiver Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:55:56 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01C9EC82.7E562C10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:56:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C9EC82.7E562C10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where are you? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Warren Sirota=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:50 PM Subject: Way OT: Living Room Receiver OK, I know you all are going to have some great advice for me here. The receiver that we use in the living room to power a modest stereo = system (a pair of Infinity speakers with 8" woofers) for general = background music purposes just died. It is probably15 years old. A lot = has changed since I bought a receiver. I feel like Rip Van Winkle. Since I have a new tv from the beginning of 2008, I am debating = between going for a simple replacement; i.e., a simple stereo home amp = (actually, the "receiver" part is useless out here in the woods anyway) = or buying a kind of low-end home theater audio system complete with = receiver and speakers. It's not that important for me to have surround = sound, but if it weren't too much extra $$, maybe this is a good time = for it. I was hoping to spend under $200 for the amp alone, wouldn't want to = spend much more than $300 for a home theater system. Not averse to = something used - there are a few deals on Amazon that look good, I just = don't even know whether home theater systems in that range are even = worth thinking about. Thanks for any light you can shed. Best, Warren ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C9EC82.7E562C10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Where are you?

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Warren=20 Sirota
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 = 7:50=20 PM

Subject: Way OT: Living Room=20 Receiver

OK, I know you all are going to have some great advice = for me=20 here.

The receiver that we use in the living room to power a = modest=20 stereo system (a pair of Infinity speakers with 8" woofers) for = general=20 background music purposes just died. It is probably15 years old. A lot = has=20 changed since I bought a receiver. I feel like Rip Van = Winkle.

Since I=20 have a new tv from the beginning of 2008, I am debating between going = for a=20 simple replacement; i.e., a simple stereo home amp (actually, the = "receiver"=20 part is useless out here in the woods anyway) or buying a kind of = low-end home=20 theater audio system complete with receiver and speakers. It's not = that=20 important for me to have surround sound, but if it weren't too much = extra $$,=20 maybe this is a good time for it.

I was hoping to spend under = $200 for=20 the amp alone, wouldn't want to spend much more than $300 for a home = theater=20 system. Not averse to something used - there are a few deals on Amazon = that=20 look good, I just don't even know whether home theater systems in that = range=20 are even worth thinking about.

Thanks for any light you can=20 shed.

Best,
Warren
------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C9EC82.7E562C10-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 13 22:59:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4ADF3BE7E; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:59:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:59:49 -0500 Subject: RE: Mobius, Question for Per Thread-Topic: Mobius, Question for Per Thread-Index: Acnr5Fxd7Jq8R5e7Qj+O7bFbJR3M4AAlYXmt Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3D4DE64@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <66f9cc1e0906121237t564b03br1583ec538f413d48@mail.gmail.com>,<19EBCCE8-AAF4-471C-91E3-951FDA7EC798@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <19EBCCE8-AAF4-471C-91E3-951FDA7EC798@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ninja-pim: Scanned by Ninja x-ninja-attachmentfiltering: (no action) acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <214gkD.A.P-D.o9CNKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:59:52 +0000 (UTC) > I get a Mobius Configuration Error > (Unaboe to open audio output device) when I open just Mobius, perhaps > that's it. The first thing you need to do after installing Mobius is select an audio device, and usually a MIDI device. From the Configuration menu select "Audio Devices...". In the dialog select an ASIO device if you have one, otherwise a pair of MME devices. The error message you are seeing usually happens if you've selected a device, then bring Mobius up with that device disconnected or powered down. Mobius might be shipping with my development devices selected in=20 the configuration (a MOTU Ultralite) which would cause an error unless you also happened to have an Ultralite. If that's the problem I'll fix the default configuration so it doesn't have any device selections. Jeff= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 13 23:02:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDA963BE80; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aR5/ZCJwNAxt12kJGTyyb8jPZma7k0+k6VQD0Zt5M4k=; b=fCfSENCkCXy8Wph9Jl4PAZNMLmUbcihxB3JQqXibmFY16BmkBNBrOlYMSVb28ARte2 mNcxB3FohraBIUW0D6rznP1lBQMVXMP5czqWZ53/f7pIPFNIKebbq603ZLcyv643+73W 5VIECCsyL993syitx0qS6ErpAAV/jHcuysnqE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=X7mP+333uKLJrvE3oJg1hXqVsZWw7YgBx+V/1XxbsJLPCv71t1cP5j49mF6R5QTMVo 9QwWWqVMnXIqBEHCFxpOQbDL2fApp2oWUccsXey7RY/WtrNi16QaDlfTzbFYBBqvDCdq MyU9X4ntRj1YlRPPZz31xJCHQSOID5Df7yVAY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <101191640906131150l2207339g5d747006bc986f83@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:01:59 -0400 Message-ID: <44e368750906131601kc0ab231nc1b927ab318fa2c0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Way OT: Living Room Receiver From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6476ad2fb3808046c42cfe8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:02:00 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6476ad2fb3808046c42cfe8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i really like mid-80's marantz receivers...you can get 'em cheap on the ebay. pretty reliable and good sound. one day i wanna buy a pair of those z.vex tube amps for my home stereo. - jim --0016e6476ad2fb3808046c42cfe8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i really like mid-80's marantz receivers...you can get 'em cheap on= the ebay.=A0 pretty reliable and good sound.=A0 one day i wanna buy a pair= of those z.vex tube amps for my home stereo.

- jim
--0016e6476ad2fb3808046c42cfe8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 13 23:02:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A6533BE84; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hylnFUUb3KUbnjNV/jO9JzPlE8KCJTxksxkFBbVwPdU=; b=CmczJKOBuA7AQdxAe6ZToKbpgju1enGxxCsV4gu+y7cULWKrAL6ze3d17DgZakvjin 9OrasfUD2CHUn9CPhAjL+6n84V0gegGBzDm2FJgkH3lLoshqQxjfpsPqS7U4sZJkelma 50sAcvnRmTago8Ap39V1wS5TRG9/AWU1Bfq4w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pIj8gKnAf2SE/2tIt5MnOy2mT829yePXd2v1gumQD9uAnZFEk5GEfOBKOF4vLRFdwK I3hTxNux2k2A9EFtgjK/3jgfhhAR82twXkNUdXBxzjQBvEaFVh5zDKDfGpuInrgW+/2q YKuiLjJvVe32azNYhTA1hNi5YHhB6RSAQnh94= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A340B08.7040700@tiscali.co.uk> References: <101191640906131150l2207339g5d747006bc986f83@mail.gmail.com> <4A340B08.7040700@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:02:28 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Way OT: Living Room Receiver From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:02:29 +0000 (UTC) Every time someone comes over to watch a movie or show in surround sound, I always notice a little smile as they look around during a time when the surround track fools them into thinking something happened behind them. My Harmon Kardon system really isn't top of the line but it sounds great to me (I power it with some boston acoustic book shelf speakers and a set of mid priced center and rear surround speakers. Here's the more modern version of the amp I have: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0016BGRX6/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_3?pf_rd_p=304485901&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00198F89A&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=12YDBRZ0RXTCNJ0S87P9 Mine still works great and sounds considerably better than other amps in the same price range. Mark On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:24 PM, andy butler wrote: > Warren Sirota wrote: > >> I was hoping to spend under $200 for the amp alone, wouldn't want to spend >> much more than $300 for a home theater system. Not averse to something used >> - there are a few deals on Amazon that look good, I just don't even know >> whether home theater systems in that range are even worth thinking about. >> >> Thanks for any light you can shed. >> > > I'd say stick with stereo if you're on a budget. > > > > > andy > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 13 23:36:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D5983BE85; Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=YU93lS6wx1u+wgQZmNmWg4sq1Gokxx8xYEjuJ4Qh4Jc=; b=W6lRDlztWeiOgtt8QjHDpGqUIvEBAqlaUsAG9ZCTuoTHbB+iOPReNfB6nGraZMg0HN mto2KK9vypBEkXNF6LdCotACoZ5/tvMKO2RQOc+VJlr+2bUnTMNOWPtAVt0DkrYos1B6 qRzhU+hWWWOB3chnpVTL37kC/j08BhWGUoQiE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Gixbq7K3zqq6ck/GXsn7pM9cbXxJ1VBL3mA8C1x9jgUQH/6MA3UcbgMyhHeSivUHCV h5F+B/RVqqGdHreDAz0SQQwfZgaSgWrogbRuO1iY0y7vWtHiwLRc3pNywmhMWUnNboJd vTN332M7rkthGt8x+4dI+7sOpGGi6VeAfTMgE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <101191640906131150l2207339g5d747006bc986f83@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:36:24 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7716874aac28ad4b Message-ID: <101191640906131636l442e3ff2n133d4b1ca6b20117@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Way OT: Living Room Receiver From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362838260c50f6046c434b51 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:36:25 +0000 (UTC) --0016362838260c50f6046c434b51 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm in Greenwood Lake, NY. On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Where are you? > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Warren Sirota > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:50 PM > *Subject:* Way OT: Living Room Receiver > > OK, I know you all are going to have some great advice for me here. > > The receiver that we use in the living room to power a modest stereo system > (a pair of Infinity speakers with 8" woofers) for general background music > purposes just died. It is probably15 years old. A lot has changed since I > bought a receiver. I feel like Rip Van Winkle. > > Since I have a new tv from the beginning of 2008, I am debating between > going for a simple replacement; i.e., a simple stereo home amp (actually, > the "receiver" part is useless out here in the woods anyway) or buying a > kind of low-end home theater audio system complete with receiver and > speakers. It's not that important for me to have surround sound, but if it > weren't too much extra $$, maybe this is a good time for it. > > I was hoping to spend under $200 for the amp alone, wouldn't want to spend > much more than $300 for a home theater system. Not averse to something used > - there are a few deals on Amazon that look good, I just don't even know > whether home theater systems in that range are even worth thinking about. > > Thanks for any light you can shed. > > Best, > Warren > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --0016362838260c50f6046c434b51 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm in Greenwood Lake, NY.

On Sat, Ju= n 13, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Stephen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote= :

Where are you?

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Warren=20 Sirota

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:50= =20 PM

Subject: Way OT: Living Room=20 Receiver

OK, I know you all are going to have some great advice for= me=20 here.

The receiver that we use in the living room to power a modes= t=20 stereo system (a pair of Infinity speakers with 8" woofers) for gene= ral=20 background music purposes just died. It is probably15 years old. A lot ha= s=20 changed since I bought a receiver. I feel like Rip Van Winkle.

Sin= ce I=20 have a new tv from the beginning of 2008, I am debating between going for= a=20 simple replacement; i.e., a simple stereo home amp (actually, the "r= eceiver"=20 part is useless out here in the woods anyway) or buying a kind of low-end= home=20 theater audio system complete with receiver and speakers. It's not th= at=20 important for me to have surround sound, but if it weren't too much e= xtra $$,=20 maybe this is a good time for it.

I was hoping to spend under $200= for=20 the amp alone, wouldn't want to spend much more than $300 for a home = theater=20 system. Not averse to something used - there are a few deals on Amazon th= at=20 look good, I just don't even know whether home theater systems in tha= t range=20 are even worth thinking about.

Thanks for any light you can=20 shed.

Best,
Warren

--
Warren
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--0016362838260c50f6046c434b51-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 14 12:45:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C591E3BE7F; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0IEuYpdeI4x0KYgod1+4UYEL9uqVjwbBnz7RLdubdzY=; b=j5NyrLyWwKZJ6BMmZN2bQ55dE0Jx+i5DCQ+DyTs/ooz7v9rrl6pbPZWvO/ri65ysVF bH+UasKENrs3llqbZGkpQw8a1wIK0D5/3c/DzFl/X1YEAeBseIy0vkjxQGv4bPnIOOBt e/tCuakUo1wih1TqgjH1rm/BVGzO3izhXVOIo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xqQxnxK7A1PvrP0IpmbqSDyrBsOjezkqf8hk2qjkI9e+zgPH8sOwe4XSZeYYHnlbc+ DQ5DcO2L51kWha1cxedg0ws5diRETJk/JUjMmprMDCR4TCCyX7rPfR5AvmGPK0kFnvXJ 6J18PlOSiOY2d54xpZd6UsbjG9vnHZmd29DOU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A3262E6.6030801@tiscali.co.uk> References: <2871c3a90906120533y1117c3cbwed55cdd1370590e8@mail.gmail.com> <4A3262E6.6030801@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 07:45:53 -0500 Message-ID: <2871c3a90906140545v48bd6880tbfbecad7822ad9ae@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: octave shifter for winds From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for your help, I've been checking specs and listening to demos all weekend... I think I'll have to go with the voiceworks. Looks like a great little unit, and it's got midi control. 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Mrs.CONCHEY REYES (Lottery coordinator) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 14 13:20:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10E233BE82; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A34F925.8070400@dehnhard.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 08:20:37 -0500 From: Tilmann Dehnhard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: octave shifter for winds References: <2871c3a90906120533y1117c3cbwed55cdd1370590e8@mail.gmail.com> <4A3262E6.6030801@tiscali.co.uk> <2871c3a90906140545v48bd6880tbfbecad7822ad9ae@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2871c3a90906140545v48bd6880tbfbecad7822ad9ae@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19w3xT198kKgFISAZCNQBTuYIDBXxOOB3SX0m2 MxkfYLrhw1k8kbW7aMZnWIOJzCt7qq6uRRhVFaW4bleLU4uQ3M TrtozvRN+PoC5ItPMjdaIXpGvpIhMN0 Resent-Message-ID: <1fiqfD.A.1eB.2kPNKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:20:55 +0000 (UTC) silvain, you should try it out first. the voiceworks is doing pitch recognition. most machines of that kind fail in the upper register of e.g. the flute and you will get some nasty sounding scramble instead of a good pitch shift. any note higher than the human voice will be problematic. when i use the voice live with the flute, i play only in the lowest octave, anything higher sounds bad. if you are looking for good pitch shifting, check out the whammy products of digitech, you can even whistle into them and have stable 2 oct up and down. here is an example of voice live use with flute (starts at min 01:53) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO8bQb__jKg here is an example of pitch shifting with a whammy including whistling (starts at 1:41) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL0Px6my9yA tilmann Sylvain Poitras schrieb: > Thanks for your help, I've been checking specs and listening to demos > all weekend... I think I'll have to go with the voiceworks. Looks > like a great little unit, and it's got midi control. > Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 14 15:41:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C98A3BE81; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bWVDGPLrTFjkZTMYfu/PGrnu8StbBYD/Rg1MYPVPvTA=; b=TNtZD8Zmn5D6GpZSJ3XITKC0g+XCH8KCyq8LSvCZYZaWP4FX9GtCXB6Y/8nQE4k/LD rou/pKUcE1GwjtpIC8MuFZgeU8W5J3LVM8BJQXsWRGCY/2MKWLWattehUE4dq+ZSuHBY kwtmo5ac/7TxVX/acqG4/7Ntn89TS2C4OnReA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Q1y2BIgaNHJpR046T5Q0VaDgprpXNkwuBZZUchs+JeWCb47xCxIVmF4qZIJ12Ssqqo mUkfilMmCaEjIGi48ATTJKyJdcyaf2TYfNlrgjyaSihoY6FzN6DlARwjNgRF2ybrlrWz bmaJC56O90tJSK+b6OzeNw96CZ3uayuh0mL6E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A34F925.8070400@dehnhard.com> References: <2871c3a90906120533y1117c3cbwed55cdd1370590e8@mail.gmail.com> <4A3262E6.6030801@tiscali.co.uk> <2871c3a90906140545v48bd6880tbfbecad7822ad9ae@mail.gmail.com> <4A34F925.8070400@dehnhard.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 10:41:10 -0500 Message-ID: <2871c3a90906140841g67adbf2cie555a7606af84beb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: octave shifter for winds From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Tilmann, Great videos, thanks for the tip. I'll definitely have to try them both. Sylvain On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Tilmann Dehnhard wro= te: > silvain, you should try it out first. the voiceworks is doing pitch > recognition. most machines of that kind fail in the upper register of e.g= . > the flute and you will get some nasty sounding scramble instead of a good > pitch shift. any note higher than the human voice will be problematic. > when i use the voice live with the flute, i play only in the lowest octav= e, > anything higher sounds bad. > if you are looking for good pitch shifting, check out the whammy products= of > digitech, you can even whistle into them and have stable 2 oct up and dow= n. > > here is an example of voice live use with flute > (starts at min 01:53) > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DgO8bQb__jKg > > here is an example of pitch shifting with a whammy including whistling > (starts at 1:41) > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXL0Px6my9yA > > tilmann > > > > Sylvain Poitras schrieb: >> >> Thanks for your help, I've been checking specs and listening to demos >> all weekend... =A0I think I'll have to go with the voiceworks. =A0Looks >> like a great little unit, and it's got midi control. >> Sylvain > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 14 16:45:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 559C63BE7F; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 149020 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:45:30 UTC X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:32:28 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Aaron Leese Subject: Re: New free toys in Mac v10.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Message-Id: <20090614164530.F031F3BE73@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, from a programmers point of view ......woohoo! I was just looking at some of those libraries again lately .... for anyone else who happens to write C++, the documentation on Macs Cocoa API includes these libraries ... they are well written and comprehensive (the docs and the libraries). And yes, you can send clock signals from AU plugins to host apps ... though I should mention that very view apps actually utilize this as it makes for pretty intense code (dynamic bpm is one of those things not so well handled as it is). Branching to BPM tracking/shifting ...... Most external sources have rather shotty clocks (+-1ms is typical jitter) ... which is crappy and hard to handle. Internal sources are much better, but then you have to ask the question what happens when we shift bpm on some track that is already playing ? For midi instruments and traccks its not a problem, you just play the notes faster ... but for recorded audio you need to either: 1) shift the freq to play quicker (and then the pitch changes) or .. 2) splice the audio (cut from on position to another, fading in between to avoid audio nonlinearities) Number 2 is the way to go, but most applications haven't really gotten there yet. I have been looking at this a lot lately because it's an area of personal interest for me. You can devise beat splicing algorithms that follow certain beats (straight, triplets, clave, etc) and then intelligently splice from segment to segment if you know the initial bpm of the audio recording .... for long recordings this is difficult, but for short ones (ie loops) this is quite simple. Much cooler is when you stack/overdub on these loops AFTER they have been spliced/bpm shifted. For example ... take a loop and speed it up to 3x normal play, but use a splicing algorithm that splits it up and plays segments that fall where triplets would be on the clip. Now stack/overdub on that track and make some noise ....... when you re-sync the loop to normal play, the result will be the recorded audio after the inverse of the bpm shift (which is a recording that exists only where the triplets would be on the audio clip). This way you can devise some pretty wild beats ...... Anyway, thats my 2 cents .. ciao A At 02:14 AM 6/12/2009, you wrote: > > - New audio unit properties in the Audio Unit framework that let audio > > units send MIDI data to host applications > >Like sending midi clock from a looper au-plugin? That would be great! > >--- >Sjaak >http://euroloopfest.com/ >http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > > >__________________________________ >Scarlet schrapt download limiet! >Scarlet NO LIMIT nu slechts 19,95 EUR >Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 14 17:09:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB4443BE78; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:09:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=EPk8k3pwG9hrHLcIsDfsWSp0iaCypKTci3pXZIB7HVc=; b=QqKUZeypj7zMgIbdZfL5iujAdQ8HC2+dUlteTrSVNnv4rdNxAaU0uRQtCe3vQMMOUy DbOdzmAkFRd4cbSYao1otLhf0lOZ2n2yb1Te/sWkJ/ohv5zp+1xP1wB1JXjh3AQfw0Aa 8lCCECpaxLtmUYb72MQM/UbdZh4WthIMS2tqg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=phf/tO3aJdtMcQ3fP1qCN9Gm2t6gAispq9DdreO7czNtxrLW3c8fnjim2fBYh0F052 PEwTiA2rEy1ff35CDNZGzz/TtopQp7FWoopUmo5zR/BKdg8FrsJ4sOK7s/2/e1iXhNFc SxerpOfrEzs9UvhJtAfV9W3TP/t3146OTTJ9k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20090614164530.F031F3BE73@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090614164530.F031F3BE73@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:09:57 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d7e9f2ab9918001e Message-ID: <101191640906141009k28c87d57q47937583cd12e456@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New free toys in Mac v10.5 From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f241cfc991046c52026e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:09:57 +0000 (UTC) --00163630f241cfc991046c52026e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit what is this, on a loop? This is the 4th identical one I've received On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Aaron Leese wrote: > > > Yeah, from a programmers point of view ......woohoo! > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --00163630f241cfc991046c52026e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable what is this, on a loop? This is the 4th identical one I've received
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= --Apple-Mail-3-407551924-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 14 18:44:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4C933BE7C; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8nD7+eFXYHsQfCEVBoOn4ILsLjQqytdOKYtEgeiSJRA=; b=gT4OnDjBuaeP3S2PVOpwRR7BIrxbmkcehKEEHzhI/uYMgh2cOQx5DDl8KPya87a/Up FYsQCITv2GnRhmSEyHENqjcqUxMMhToCh66OnJt8C5utrZL99kKAhLv0BgObsN7VP8KJ WxNVWrgyPKwxW6CT/LfnGw1X7FD9Mg2bPUIpM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MWnpOanZQy+9gRFVHtZ3eDGkd5MZDG9CvjWKkTmiDloL8KGibfzsG5lMFU2g3rRGTK vFRagpccDtbdaRWOgZYif1xTnOweK39v/qYsvuCTvhtz9vkkeyJZVTiy6I6nHVkfGKa4 /z3iVraxRBub5Ts8G9JljxkcDFMU8djoL4RgM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <134440D9-D2DE-4A7E-B37B-14037037F4BE@btinternet.com> References: <134440D9-D2DE-4A7E-B37B-14037037F4BE@btinternet.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:44:16 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60906141144s3bdd1352hb955da311f9ee514@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live looping tonight From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bb131bd8ba046c5354ef Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:44:18 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bb131bd8ba046c5354ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matt I apologize my friend I'm probably going to catch your first 15 min and then cut out as the day and dinner needs for fam are getting away from me. I will at the least catch that though and looking forward. I was hoping it was on at 2 but neither of us was doing the math there, I've finally figured out that NY to UK is 5 hrs not 6. The tough nut is where it's 5 and then 6 on the continent. I'll see you in a few again sorry that I can't ccatch the whole hour. Break los leg as they say... Jim On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Matt Stevens < mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote: > > I'm playing Live on ustream in one hour here > > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room > > Did you guys see Steve Moyes - he was looping with a record!!!! > Brilliant!!! > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001636c5bb131bd8ba046c5354ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt I apologize my friend I'm probably going to catch your first 15 mi= n and then cut out as the day and dinner needs for fam are getting away fro= m me. =A0I will at the least catch that though and looking forward. =A0I wa= s hoping it was on at 2 but neither of us was doing the math there, I'v= e finally figured out that NY to UK is 5 hrs not 6. =A0The tough nut is whe= re it's 5 and then 6 on the continent.

I'll see you in a few again sorry that I can't ccatc= h the whole hour.

Break los leg as they say...

Jim

On Sun, Jun 14,= 2009 at 2:05 PM, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:

I'm playing Live on ustream in one hour her= e

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Ro= om

D= id you guys see Steve Moyes - he was looping with a record!!!! Brilliant!!!=
<= br>

Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
mattstevensguitar@btinternet= .com

<= /div>

--
ReUse, an introspective textural aura= l journey coming soon...

music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
www= .myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/j= imgoodinviolinelectro
ww= w.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic=

--001636c5bb131bd8ba046c5354ef-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 14 20:08:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 611413BE7F; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 393 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:08:01 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 206249.55751.bm@omp400.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1245009687; bh=0/tOzZ7gvBVMpytrRwWim2fGXun8ZTssa5NugUi7U2U=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DU8VvaLtGuDyOQnySxaOq/4IZkZalJkmctT/9YgS2OnZEXEjdq8+R8bxMBBMM6EMfVzP/YXXHaPdbb5vr1dL4gNsKI+EjsFQB9/7mXyPDI3Z4d6RYTI+gkwab3K/jst3lCR/v101DRkGCVVOw7oOLgPwLHNF1uGqxDeD2W75UTI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s0VXUqSap7rR3w4OGYJH0mYi41ETVhLtCa0n4V1c5poBBG7BxzAkrxYgXYjw5Ai7t4aB8KwPNPI77vwI4V0JjpEpW3kn9croSVLeW2KkOWN4e9BTxmRFSrxSc/jEaixiqGXwNXQvoEs7M0kzicBWatr1BlMVWq7zn7GqB2qjOR4=; Message-ID: <983304.65204.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: k2os2J8VM1lXNcuZBmFRphGG2n8iV08wBMqxLh1wAH.ZTi.iidY5.N9vX0uKP78GXLUjbipFMXBEoVIyJKpG7RCVnsd4SiREQQIsVftR9UOG_LuhaLqgoRtyc9.GI9ojnrDG3HxGqaU.ZYL.UbpRL5vfTibcZYONkD7x10KRKurlzqieth8VmZaNFUA579iUy3EWdF3p06f6_hQC.g37eq9eUvq0_fgFbrNLD9L_u82XSpN0aFn9swJdVRyeKT3g_5D_O41eQUg6bF4iKR1dRyp6LVXK7SXyKI7VDgY5Fpuw3PPsgw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.43 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 References: <134440D9-D2DE-4A7E-B37B-14037037F4BE@btinternet.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:01:27 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Live looping tonight To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <134440D9-D2DE-4A7E-B37B-14037037F4BE@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1706351802-1245009687=:65204" Resent-Message-ID: <4flo_.A.h0C.iiVNKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:08:02 +0000 (UTC) --0-1706351802-1245009687=:65204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cool, listening now...... how difficult would it be for me to get a cheap setup for ustream-- camera/mic? this is way cool...... ________________________________ From: Matt Stevens To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 2:05:24 PM Subject: Live looping tonight I'm playing Live on ustream in one hour here http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room Did you guys see Steve Moyes - he was looping with a record!!!! Brilliant!!! Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --0-1706351802-1245009687=:65204 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
cool, listening now......

how difficult would it be for me to get a cheap setup for ustream-- camera/mic?

this is way cool......

From: Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 2:05:24 PM
Subject: Live looping tonight

I'm playing Live on ustream in one hour here

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room

Did you guys see Steve Moyes - he was looping with a record!!!! Brilliant!!!

Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com

--0-1706351802-1245009687=:65204-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 14 20:42:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 831683BE78; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:42:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=aC/pFR9hZiVUhNc/kfcCLBDNxgalAZJeyFMqGluOHXMuIlLIOBGJ70xfyZ7imujLY8qGUGCUisrJKsvTLpL1VobCCtUmAVFXDZZWXotTZH/JP484imc9HPZFmbViHi4+Jq8hWc/VxspFsp355Lgyh/7HOsec5vaOkETMknw/v+U= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: 5KMg5LIVM1nB0JtShCrz1NBNpNRIh8z6JRTr_7SKbyuB.P2612ZbMjAdfqiUq7n0g97No9GE_oAezvbYgF49Ihd.jBkKTn7CFeLgAx_CjmZUrFB0wI7bKSJqnro2PLxxszAG9lTQeNWReOoiP05uFXKV4PAxqgBV6nNgp4tfAtExaWXopVmhXzrEeEPqGCrxKchpDFDJebjE.Ls5M_QwIMm87oRpsstojE2W3VZ8PZ0arq.zU2fl46j2zvQYz959MKLCcWaPB05Z8LNzegOUk42HKedzujPJxIAnt26MaEbdfCuoVg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <983304.65204.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <134440D9-D2DE-4A7E-B37B-14037037F4BE@btinternet.com> <983304.65204.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-416986508 Message-Id: <7D84CC45-E266-4574-BA41-7E522E5CB180@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Live looping tonight Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:42:38 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <5mueED.A.m3D.DDWNKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:42:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-416986508 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Its very easy - i just use a macbook with firefox - re u mac or PC?? Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 14 Jun 2009, at 21:01, E Gross wrote: > cool, listening now...... > > how difficult would it be for me to get a cheap setup for ustream-- > camera/mic? > > this is way cool...... > > From: Matt Stevens > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 2:05:24 PM > Subject: Live looping tonight > > > I'm playing Live on ustream in one hour here > > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room > > Did you guys see Steve Moyes - he was looping with a record!!!! > Brilliant!!! > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > > --Apple-Mail-5-416986508 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Its very easy - i just use a macbook with firefox - re u mac or = PC??

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com

On 14 Jun 2009, = at 21:01, E Gross wrote:

cool, listening now......

how difficult would = it be for me to get a cheap setup for ustream-- camera/mic?

this = is way cool......

From:=A0Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com>
=A0Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
=A0Sunday, = June 14, 2009 2:05:24 PM
=A0Live = looping tonight

I'm playing Live on = ustream in one hour here
http= ://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room=
Did you guys = see Steve Moyes - he was looping with a record!!!! = Brilliant!!!
Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com

= --Apple-Mail-5-416986508-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 14 22:36:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 865183BE79; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:36:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 149215.51203.bm@omp502.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1245019012; bh=VpKntUnFSWAtWk9xrUjs7SOi0hefjtGPkaWpdvL0+Uk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wUrUIiqcBTHdPi6zcedAU3j1YMuiZKmi10rmYfZ8L2btw0wOSzpTRu/Po08o2BuXpSPjlQ8lbLgf91hifWC2eGuJuq91HzwWgzxdNEv+JwHPTHWgiqCkYZ7zhd9SgrQDfNEDHAQJsXuho7F/UxsjIuIlhver2+Arp7ZCQg7yQ7U= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3aY1FLlwfF2PBTK+q2NmMrTu5TwnusDvuQQL1RZYxNDWKLgfSexWtf/q7wnEBwoQ0pZXymgKEvlHTXQMd5Avtk1ijx43rUciTTz09fpXdPtBy+8On3S79kaV87sbkbWu4W3AHs+3N2H7OVuPcc2/ImD2tqa20hJnNVsSw7YF5uM=; Message-ID: <19197.59151.qm@web45903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: faTPttwVM1mymcOlVggbnKdzdjoTj6pwuoMBOy_e8UDGXt2BxYlCHYVLPmP6CpkDX_kDZ7.sxMWbzdw9tbQHzY.Hdcp89e171k6fSoZKWAzxoVvRPOzI_nN9zIrcj5KlQLFOxrPdtC_etuiB2LikK2fDY71u1c6n8Nv6zhgNhFSeGbdQbysAMyyctGZUjv7D5p6zUhvSH2m7UFghG_BopVmsCsof9tQcBSdioSxHDiY8TJoBbxaj87hRP_YwKY6ksrTbqBUsNtKk_zaxQdhTsvzmR6417gZhJ8Jn_M7HERDJGMQOtQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.43 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 References: <134440D9-D2DE-4A7E-B37B-14037037F4BE@btinternet.com> <983304.65204.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <7D84CC45-E266-4574-BA41-7E522E5CB180@btinternet.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:36:51 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Live looping tonight To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7D84CC45-E266-4574-BA41-7E522E5CB180@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1432376709-1245019011=:59151" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:36:53 +0000 (UTC) --0-1432376709-1245019011=:59151 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii :( unfortunately, still PC world. However my friends at work have all switched over to apple, and I will to, but may be a long time based on money constraints.... ________________________________ From: Matt Stevens To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 4:42:38 PM Subject: Re: Live looping tonight Its very easy - i just use a macbook with firefox - re u mac or PC?? Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 14 Jun 2009, at 21:01, E Gross wrote: cool, listening now...... how difficult would it be for me to get a cheap setup for ustream-- camera/mic? this is way cool...... ________________________________ From: Matt Stevens To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 2:05:24 PM Subject: Live looping tonight I'm playing Live on ustream in one hour here http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room Did you guys see Steve Moyes - he was looping with a record!!!! Brilliant!!! Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --0-1432376709-1245019011=:59151 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
:(

unfortunately, still PC world. However my friends at work have all switched over to apple, and I will to, but may be a long time based on money constraints....

From: Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 4:42:38 PM
Subject: Re: Live looping tonight

Its very easy - i just use a macbook with firefox - re u mac or PC??

Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com

On 14 Jun 2009, at 21:01, E Gross wrote:

cool, listening now......

how difficult would it be for me to get a cheap setup for ustream-- camera/mic?

this is way cool......

From: Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 2:05:24 PM
Subject: Live looping tonight

I'm playing Live on ustream in one hour here

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room

Did you guys see Steve Moyes - he was looping with a record!!!! Brilliant!!!

Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com

--0-1432376709-1245019011=:59151-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 15 02:13:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A69E3BE79; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1245031979; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=ZVL21TSkay6rcm9tGOK9ZYjFhVA=; b=peaLhMMmKGFIhtBpFvy2Y4RzoBoTxceqpR/QQBLeOvqeJs+xbaNvUsEtECCu/Lkv vguH0dpoK8YOsZYK9OZbX834BiyPHiTpfWE8Drp2fMu7rUkoj50YjH2tBS7F1h4c; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=zImPrG2YAAAA:8 a=3OA-0-m0AAAA:20 a=WnzYjt4fAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=PMF4g2laAAAA:8 a=c9eTbBAgAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=B8CpycrvAAAA:8 a=8U_8BYAIAAAA:20 a=X8lw9rmGAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=HmCT5iXHAAAA:8 a=MZwQBe6CAAAA:8 a=3OMzQ-2_AAAA:8 a=ESwi73lEX99mBryw-JoA:9 a=7jL0aaTirLdgsuBKfwgu5ntCQLkA:4 a=oOX0lASgjZsA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=Nr7Pmq0tdocA:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=cpPrBxta4P04pIaiG1sA:9 a=OXLe3wbc_5P29v9bPIMA:7 a=xiz2QXdt5NhuppMwaHOPNy1_hW0A:4 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001601c9ed5f$16817a30$0def3547@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <134440D9-D2DE-4A7E-B37B-14037037F4BE@btinternet.com> <983304.65204.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Live looping tonight Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:15:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C9ED3D.8F06DF30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:13:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C9ED3D.8F06DF30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use a regular Logitech webcam, about 60-100$, I then just feed a = stereo line out from my mixer to my regular pc for sound.=20 Of course you need a fair amount of upstream connection. I use about 350 = kb out of my 650 upspeed to do it but you have choices on the quality = and bandwith used via the encoder that is availiable for free. Very easy = to set up actually, but can be a little tempermental at times. Mostly = good. I have only done a few test runs but am starting regular bi-weekly = shows starting this weekend. Dive in the waters fine! best, Jeff Loopydroneyglitcthywacky Presents Next show Saturday, 20th June, 12:00 noon EDT/5:00 PM GMT http://www.justin.tv/loopslab For times in your area see: http://tinyurl.com/l4ykw4 http://jeffduke.org/ http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://virb.com/jeffduke http://www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://www.justin.tv/loopslab http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: E Gross=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 4:01 PM Subject: Re: Live looping tonight cool, listening now...... how difficult would it be for me to get a cheap setup for ustream-- = camera/mic? this is way cool...... -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Matt Stevens To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 2:05:24 PM Subject: Live looping tonight I'm playing Live on ustream in one hour here http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-Room Did you guys see Steve Moyes - he was looping with a record!!!! = Brilliant!!! Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C9ED3D.8F06DF30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I use a regular Logitech webcam, about = 60-100$, I=20 then just feed a stereo line out from my mixer to my regular pc for = sound.=20

Of course you need a fair amount of = upstream=20 connection. I use about 350 kb out of my 650 upspeed to do it but you = have=20 choices on the quality and bandwith used via the encoder that is = availiable for=20 free. Very easy to set up actually, but can be a little tempermental at = times.=20 Mostly good. I have only done a few test runs but am starting=20 regular bi-weekly shows starting  this weekend. Dive in = the=20 waters fine!

best,

Jeff

Loopydroneyglitcthywacky = Presents

Next show Saturday, 20th June, 12:00 = noon EDT/5:00=20 PM GMT

http://www.justin.tv/loopslab<= /FONT>

For times in your area see: http://tinyurl.com/l4ykw4

http://jeffduke.org/
http://www.myspace.com/= loopsinphasespace
http://virb.com/jeffduke
http://www.reverbnation.= com/thejeffduke
http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke<= BR>http://www.justin.tv/loopslab<= BR>http://themineisthemind.bl= ogspot.com/
http://www.youtube.com/use= r/sticky899
http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 E Gross=20

To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20

Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 = 4:01 PM

Subject: Re: Live looping = tonight

cool, listening now......

how difficult would it be for me = to get=20 a cheap setup for ustream-- camera/mic?

this is way=20 cool......

From: Matt Stevens = <mattstevensguitar@btinte= rnet.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 = 2:05:24=20 PM
Subject: Live = looping=20 tonight

I'm playing Live on ustream in one = hour=20 here

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Matt-Stevens-From-The-Box-R= oom

Did you guys see Steve Moyes - he was = looping with=20 a record!!!! Brilliant!!!

Matt Stevens

www.mattstevensguitar.com

mattstevensguitar@bti= nternet.com

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Thanks for Your Total Understanding I wait your full details ASAP, (Job Processing Unit) Payments Instructor ANDREW WOODS ARTIST United Kingdom, Tom Woodgate Email:tomwoodgate02@googlemail.com Website: http://www.andrew-wood.com/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 15 11:10:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8AD73BE72; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 468 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:10:30 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=kteNhjJNO7fVT0W7QBczLJ9QpOrLeNN4bER/ayGuxjI=; b=Adfv0biTT/IAh+8g/cg2QNyqY7EtxHXJOzrN8cstVJd85/qHpeO2PXYQWer6Diohrk 8aHK39Iux6O0bxXjXXN5V7m6T8gSJlGGt4m9AU3aWr+E9pyCotka1yH9TY4lF79Lf2Tn tWXb7m6SJQSHfXyf+WDrayVxKFOGyeZhurDP0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=do3DHPtqd9/EaRlfOSY7s5ZCkI0OQ0In0wH6kOIX6oMjDgDgDJXa+WjoqEApU2ZquM mNggb21LVdoou29nmwbtVFgJnVO0iYxxmEFevXT3ex4c3dgsO8TyYIfLje3XAPVaG9um jpTflxsOxnUz9hUO8qzJDIdTFcDKS9mif1qCg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:02:41 -0700 Message-ID: <333287c30906150402x61401c1ch86ccc854b8a277df@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Loopers delight, you are amazing From: Nevyn Nowhere To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd22f283a2f6f046c60ffab Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:10:30 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd22f283a2f6f046c60ffab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just wanted to thank the list for hooking up loopers in Portland. Daryl Shawn and I played a show in an east coast type club this afternoon (small, boxy, but speakers carried sound oh so nicely); he really does some seriously amazing guitar and vintage/old school technology looping. Really really enjoyed it. We even had a few other loopers show up from the list (send me your contact info guys!). Just wanted to say Loopers Delight, you are great; and that includes all of you on the list. nevyn nowhere sad music for happy humans http://www.happyhumans.org PS: We did a simple mic'd recording of the show, so quality will only be soso, but I figure we'll share it with you guys later this week, since this show was a product of this list! --000e0cd22f283a2f6f046c60ffab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just wanted to thank the list for hooking up loopers in Portland.=A0 Daryl = Shawn and I played a show in an east coast type club this afternoon (small,= boxy, but speakers carried sound oh so nicely); he really does some seriou= sly amazing guitar and vintage/old school technology looping.=A0 Really rea= lly enjoyed it. We even had a few other loopers show up from the list (send= me your contact info guys!).
=A0
Just wanted to say Loopers Delight, you are great; and that includes= all of you on the list.

nevyn nowhere
sad music for happy humans=
http://www.happyhumans.org
PS: We did a simple mic'd recording of the show, so quality will on= ly be soso, but I figure we'll share it with you guys later this week, = since this show was a product of this list!

--000e0cd22f283a2f6f046c60ffab-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 15 12:55:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E4293BE7C; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:55:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Livelooping in Antwerp - Blog Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:55:11 +0200 Message-ID: <004e01c9edb8$84e782e0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcntuIRw5Yr3nsVYQuqDIogBJKpe0A== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.187; VDF: 7.1.4.89) Resent-Message-ID: <1HJnZ.A.E0B.xSkNKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:55:14 +0000 (UTC) some words, photos, and excerpts from my set at the livelooping festival that took place in Antwerp on May 30 http://veloopity.blogspot.com/2009/06/livelooping-in-antwerp.html -Michael Peters From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 15 13:22:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26C3C3BE7E; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <28295.193.190.154.22.1245072170.squirrel@www.vidnaobmana.be> In-Reply-To: <004e01c9edb8$84e782e0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <004e01c9edb8$84e782e0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:22:50 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Livelooping in Antwerp - Blog From: "microphonics" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: microphonics@vidnaobmana.be User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Nice bit of diary on the looping festival, hopefully we'll have some decent recordings soon from the pa and the video... > some words, photos, and excerpts from my set at the livelooping festival > that took place in Antwerp on May 30 > http://veloopity.blogspot.com/2009/06/livelooping-in-antwerp.html > > -Michael Peters > www.fearfallsburning.be read the blog : http://fearfallsburning.blogspot.com/ www.myspace.com/fearfallsburning From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 15 15:12:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FFA53BE7E; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:11:37 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Aaron Leese Subject: Re: New free toys in Mac v10.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Message-Id: <20090615151212.E92BC3BE73@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <4DZl9C.A.m0.NTmNKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, from a programmers point of view ......woohoo! I was just looking at some of those libraries again lately .... for anyone else who happens to write C++, the documentation on Macs Cocoa API includes these libraries ... they are well written and comprehensive (the docs and the libraries). And yes, you can send clock signals from AU plugins to host apps ... though I should mention that very view apps actually utilize this as it makes for pretty intense code (dynamic bpm is one of those things not so well handled as it is). Branching to BPM tracking/shifting ...... Most external sources have rather shotty clocks (+-1ms is typical jitter) ... which is crappy and hard to handle. Internal sources are much better, but then you have to ask the question what happens when we shift bpm on some track that is already playing ? For midi instruments and traccks its not a problem, you just play the notes faster ... but for recorded audio you need to either: 1) shift the freq to play quicker (and then the pitch changes) or .. 2) splice the audio (cut from on position to another, fading in between to avoid audio nonlinearities) Number 2 is the way to go, but most applications haven't really gotten there yet. I have been looking at this a lot lately because it's an area of personal interest for me. You can devise beat splicing algorithms that follow certain beats (straight, triplets, clave, etc) and then intelligently splice from segment to segment if you know the initial bpm of the audio recording .... for long recordings this is difficult, but for short ones (ie loops) this is quite simple. Much cooler is when you stack/overdub on these loops AFTER they have been spliced/bpm shifted. For example ... take a loop and speed it up to 3x normal play, but use a splicing algorithm that splits it up and plays segments that fall where triplets would be on the clip. Now stack/overdub on that track and make some noise ....... when you re-sync the loop to normal play, the result will be the recorded audio after the inverse of the bpm shift (which is a recording that exists only where the triplets would be on the audio clip). This way you can devise some pretty wild beats ...... Anyway, thats my 2 cents .. ciao A At 02:14 AM 6/12/2009, you wrote: > > - New audio unit properties in the Audio Unit framework that let audio > > units send MIDI data to host applications > >Like sending midi clock from a looper au-plugin? That would be great! > >--- >Sjaak >http://euroloopfest.com/ >http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > > >__________________________________ >Scarlet schrapt download limiet! >Scarlet NO LIMIT nu slechts 19,95 EUR >Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 15 16:07:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 082633BE7E; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:07:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A3671C4.2010407@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:07:32 -0700 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: thanks list References: <134440D9-D2DE-4A7E-B37B-14037037F4BE@btinternet.com> <983304.65204.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <001601c9ed5f$16817a30$0def3547@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <001601c9ed5f$16817a30$0def3547@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:07:37 +0000 (UTC) I'm in Portland OR, having played the 18th show of my tour, and had to send a thanks for the support last night from Bob Collier, JD Devros, and Rev Fever - so great to meet all of you. Of course I also met Nevyn, who played a fascinating and powerful set - really great work. a second thanks to Bob and the Rev for the gifts of music for the road, and to the Rev for showing me sights and escorting me to my next destination. y'all are the best. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 15 18:58:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B33D23BE78; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1245092280; bh=Ht7MzR3TL0dmxg0LcwUL4LpmmpnfA8K2ewnoIae5zyA=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=CBaF6WTJqFWZU0tTRRBTJk8qdImPWBuizkBcYLn+fSQW48TuqVCyKDPIiiJ4oGAcA 0odoAQdA8pO2UeCmZJbC3YJqHruNfd9K2PoBr1koR+/i0KRJJ0qebi2km2556PglLg sKYTAoTjOFfo97jpqyS+QX3MEQD3FX8cp0gIikvs= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Livelooping in Antwerp - Blog Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:57:37 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c9edeb$2734f7d0$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcntvGYjLddvqOm1SE6e8dG3DF3CtwALgkkg In-Reply-To: <28295.193.190.154.22.1245072170.squirrel@www.vidnaobmana.be> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:58:04 +0000 (UTC) > Nice bit of diary on the looping festival, hopefully we'll=20 > have some decent recordings soon from the pa and the video... I talked with Ronald today and he is working on it ;) As said earlier, I expect the audio files no earlier than end of June, the video's a bit = later. I'll keep you posted. ---=20 Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20 http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 15 19:03:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98A5F3BE7E; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7qau3o$8vu0qe@relay.skynet.be> X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAIc3Nkpbs7oD/2dsb2JhbADbGgU X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:03:12 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: microphonics Subject: RE: Livelooping in Antwerp - Blog In-Reply-To: <000001c9edeb$2734f7d0$020313ac@PIPO> References: <28295.193.190.154.22.1245072170.squirrel@www.vidnaobmana.be> <000001c9edeb$2734f7d0$020313ac@PIPO> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Jaak ! Dirk. At 20:57 15/06/2009, you wrote: > > Nice bit of diary on the looping festival, hopefully we'll > > have some decent recordings soon from the pa and the video... > >I talked with Ronald today and he is working on it ;) As said earlier, I >expect the audio files no earlier than end of June, the video's a bit later. >I'll keep you posted. > >--- >Sjaak >http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ >http://euroloopfest.com/ www.myspace.com/mymicrophonics www.microphonics.be From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 15 20:19:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9C363BE7C; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 9999 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:19:03 UTC X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:31:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Aaron Leese Subject: drops Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Message-Id: <20090615201903.37DD13BE71@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Hate to do it ... but this is just a test. For some reason LD seems to be dropping some of my posts lately ... does anyone else have intermitten problems posting? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 15 20:20:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60C193BE80; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BqXzMoKSTpOw3gp4WD9gOIF/+eMjVqIAZ8zrQrT0jr4=; b=ADwJc4ANf1gmGvyvvHxzGZQsjmBSKD2LecEjaft5W7A/HomZ/e6OtumSN+m3KFdeX7 SBL3wQOOhPboXfasObvK84uHwOBpL/QI6G6BlfdQJM+KhRncx+0wBQdIOuZkbgJ+qxts HY5Ux7qpGTpilX+5Z1ulSOwjDn9RODR4mcwNc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=dvkRa3BRRWiGNWXf+3Uhd9njC+/PFatr+SUk6dnqVCQ0g8XkYgjGUWTGX/ivy++PbF 9I9BF9L4Egh3u5v3Em7bM1evHwwpzojZFNwIN5nr4XLSfyT2SmUPN8JAJ9L+FTWSTsPp 4b7eVsVVM6DCrOUcDfGBPsfFcz5Gy1mn9hnaE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:20:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: optimizing vista for looping... From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:20:23 +0000 (UTC) Hey all. I started finding the limits of my old laptop a bit too often and when my general use PC died I figured it was time to maybe upgrade my music machine to a desktop and relegate my old music machine to a basic general use/surfing machine. So I now find myself in Vista land. As far as I can tell, it's XP with a coat of paint and a bunch of OSX like widgets running. I'm just going to be running Live 8 and the usual suspects, including Mobius (of course) and I'm just wondering if there's anything specific to do to make the machine optimized for music production. I would have chosen XP, but that wasn't a choice so I guess I'm stuck with it for the time being, so don't say "Install XP on it" as I don't have a license and I'd like to get Vista working long enough to tide me over until Windows 7. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 15 20:59:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F4B73BE79; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CPuxBqVesGicatprvloKeKEisu10AE1g20hY3MZgkIk=; b=vR6ocd263HiBG87cGhLTl84nYXPdT8WEkrIuUztQXw6e+RIJPv4pWkZmpBsuClJTFT c+zM2apUSEckNNRKGS0pOmMZNoObYBOxP0jU6xugCh8n3TWOozhPCoYee2kZ2NIrZLJa wXwekehKYw+/00M4Onbu4HaeoBzD3R1zZ/1i4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HV4GTdDTZRpnoQZ25zH1k6xbgnBa14vwiqGp/aZzDcvANy+QrM2FsXUQggtPKH6rE4 QBsnTcXx0dwCsLpb+i1WTOKGA1Tg/GvAndK38HAjU1x1yehiPmEOKRneVNGMU9OlcCe7 vYo45At60TW9OsT3hqKwqwsVKyn5Vaj4EdJKY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:31:22 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: optimizing vista for looping... From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:59:51 +0000 (UTC) http://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/ts/detail.php?Index=3D31969&keyword=3Dv= ista On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Mark Sottilaro wro= te: > Hey all. > > I started finding the limits of my old laptop a bit too often and when > my general use PC died I figured it was time to maybe upgrade my music > machine to a desktop and relegate my old music machine to a basic > general use/surfing machine. > > So I now find myself in Vista land. =A0As far as I can tell, it's XP > with a coat of paint and a bunch of OSX like widgets running. I'm just > going to be running Live 8 and the usual suspects, including Mobius > (of course) and I'm just wondering if there's anything specific to do > to make the machine optimized for music production. I would have > chosen XP, but that wasn't a choice so I guess I'm stuck with it for > the time being, so don't say "Install XP on it" as I don't have a > license and I'd like to get Vista working long enough to tide me over > until Windows 7. > > Thanks, > > Mark > > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 15 21:20:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E19F3BE7E; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Q9+MU2srIeOLZ9Y2MXEG0cQCgJho9/INeZtso0rdj7s=; b=LGzXdCP5//0ObsXptIvoJIPkcXIeyT6o9EwfiuU6vQhspUH7bTUshIhENUkrdvjrp+ tawaPZumoHmrwotZUO9IFpoJ6yRQZCl2DWvq9TKc96muHvMzqFNEN6vsDMzxv4U+jeUl wbOs9Up7LkJRT8pGtbp6//ziFwcszA3j/BPDI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H5aFLg9iBuivF9Pwtwk+B7cqSHv02Pr91VHEjrT+Qs3fpXOXDaBDgkAFge28SMuJwj jxwNCzlHbw7keetmLiY2NjppD7AUHpZ4y0fgQU/3ZoFU5/2W92AeZ5tQbF2Wi7Xqpy+b tL35PilY/eQjOAIJxuhAzFPsXTlxdbJc29sGU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:20:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: optimizing vista for looping... From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for this! Perfect. On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Tony K wrote: > http://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/ts/detail.php?Index=3D31969&keyword= =3Dvista > > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Mark Sottilaro w= rote: >> Hey all. >> >> I started finding the limits of my old laptop a bit too often and when >> my general use PC died I figured it was time to maybe upgrade my music >> machine to a desktop and relegate my old music machine to a basic >> general use/surfing machine. >> >> So I now find myself in Vista land. =A0As far as I can tell, it's XP >> with a coat of paint and a bunch of OSX like widgets running. I'm just >> going to be running Live 8 and the usual suspects, including Mobius >> (of course) and I'm just wondering if there's anything specific to do >> to make the machine optimized for music production. I would have >> chosen XP, but that wasn't a choice so I guess I'm stuck with it for >> the time being, so don't say "Install XP on it" as I don't have a >> license and I'd like to get Vista working long enough to tide me over >> until Windows 7. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mark >> >> > > > > -- > -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- > Tony > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 15 21:35:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56FA23BE80; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:35:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4A3671C4.2010407@mhorse.com> References: <134440D9-D2DE-4A7E-B37B-14037037F4BE@btinternet.com> <983304.65204.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <001601c9ed5f$16817a30$0def3547@YOUR08D5303051> <4A3671C4.2010407@mhorse.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-506579350 Message-Id: From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: thanks list Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:35:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:35:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-506579350 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jun 15, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > I'm in Portland OR, having played the 18th show of my tour, and had > to send a thanks for the support last night from Bob Collier, JD > Devros, and Rev Fever - so great to meet all of you. Of course I > also met Nevyn, who played a fascinating and powerful set - really > great work. > > a second thanks to Bob and the Rev for the gifts of music for the > road, and to the Rev for showing me sights and escorting me to my > next destination. > > y'all are the best. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com The pleasure of meeting Daryl, Bob Collier, JD Devros, and Nevyn was mutual for me, as well. Both Daryl and Nevyn did great, and very different sets. Best o' both worlds! I just wish some other Portland area, etc LDers could have made it. (We know yer out there! :-)) Ah well. Maybe next time another out of town LDer comes to Portland? Cheers! Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ PS- JD also did a great set later that evening with another band he is in, Negara, at a wonderful Ethiopian restaurant! (Bete-Lukas.Thanx for the tip on that place, JD!) http://www.negaramusic.org/iWeb/Negara/Negara.html PPS- Hey Daryl, I hope ya were able to get a ticket to see Shellac!? :-) --Apple-Mail-2-506579350 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
On Jun 15, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote:

I'm in Portland OR, having played the 18th show of = my tour, and had to send a thanks for the support last night from Bob = Collier, JD Devros, and Rev Fever - so great to meet all of you. Of = course I also met Nevyn, who played a fascinating and powerful set - = really great work.
a second thanks to Bob and the = Rev for the gifts of music for the road, and to the Rev for showing me = sights and escorting me to my next destination.

y'all = are the best.

Daryl Shawn
Rev = Fever
http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfe= ver/

PS- JD also did a great set later that = evening with another band he is in, Negara, at a wonderful Ethiopian = restaurant! (Bete-Lukas.Thanx for the tip on that place, = JD!)
http://www.neg= aramusic.org/iWeb/Negara/Negara.html

PPS- = Hey Daryl, I hope ya were able to get a ticket to see Shellac!? = :-)

= --Apple-Mail-2-506579350-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 15 21:58:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13D433BE7E; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "eterogeneo" To: Cc: "Leander Reininghaus" , "Xavier Plagaro Mussard" , "Rick Walker" , "Michael Peters" , "Bernhard Wagner" , "Massimo Liverani" , "Paolo Cimmino" , "Sjaak Overgaauw" , "Per Boysen" , , "paeppae" Subject: Live Looping in Rome Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:58:36 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02CA_01C9EE15.32B75790" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: smtp6.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:58:42 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02CA_01C9EE15.32B75790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've uploaded some of my photos in the Flickr group page: http://www.flickr.com/groups/loopfestrome2009/ Fabio=20 www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ------=_NextPart_000_02CA_01C9EE15.32B75790 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've uploaded some of = my=20 photos in the Flickr group page:

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Fabio
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------=_NextPart_000_02CA_01C9EE15.32B75790-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 15 22:20:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08D903BE80; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:20:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4800 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:20:51 UTC X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:33:37 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Aaron Leese Subject: drops Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Message-Id: <20090615222051.97B293BE72@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0KkasD.A.eHB.DlsNKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:20:51 +0000 (UTC) Hate to do it ... but this is just a test. For some reason LD seems to be dropping some of my posts lately ... does anyone else have intermitten problems posting? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 16 04:24:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94C663BE7E; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:24:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3601 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:24:21 UTC X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.9.4 (ClamAV engine v0.95.1) Message-Id: From: Kenn lowy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-62-527469564 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: behringer FCB 1010 question Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:24:01 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:24:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-62-527469564 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I hope this is simple: I have my 1010 set up to replace the echoplex foot switch. It works great. But I also want to be able to change the presets (from 1 - 15). I've tried putting in the #'s (1,2,3, etc.) But nothing changes. Any ideas?? Thanks, klowy --Apple-Mail-62-527469564 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope this is = simple:

I have my 1010 set up to replace the echoplex = foot switch. It works great. But I also want to be able to change the = presets (from 1 - 15). I've tried putting in the #'s (1,2,3, etc.) But = nothing changes.

Any = ideas??

Thanks,

klowy

= --Apple-Mail-62-527469564-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 16 09:57:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB83C3BE7C; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:57:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1245146237; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=BzsQa1/UlUrMD68qQc+aq6k3QWE=; b=RdMUu97UrvW29rUKcPVASEyDW1hwXn+0nPd4BAvy+sMPoeENnIVhpiYK6mxf7n4G tcENhaPWM5ekn3fymiz1I3HnODP8dfdTei+IIbGd0EbNazIpJiSijRYDgiI03p9u; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=U3007qpL10cpfZAlx94A:9 a=XN7VFlbNdAvNyYBrjuJyueMoL5oA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000501c9ee69$1d3ec700$30504d43@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: footswitch woes Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:59:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:57:18 +0000 (UTC) Kind of OT here. My Zvex Fuzz Factory footswitch has gone on the fritz! I am not adverse to replacing it myself because I need it before this weekend. Zvex has so far failed to respond. it looks like a normal sort of switch. I suppose it will invalidate the warranty if I do it though. Any thoughts before I dive in? Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 16 14:15:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 185A63BE75; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <134440D9-D2DE-4A7E-B37B-14037037F4BE@btinternet.com> <983304.65204.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <001601c9ed5f$16817a30$0def3547@YOUR08D5303051> <4A3671C4.2010407@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <9ac35a0cea7400037f730837fc166f96@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: thanks list Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:15:33 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Daryl, Thanks also for stopping and playing in Southern Oregon on your way=20 through to Portland. I had fun . . . I hope you did too. I also mad a recording of our gig on my little H2 - which I will share=20= with you at some point (probably upload it to Box.net). The recordings sound better than one might think. Much of the material sounds pretty good in fact (particularly the duets=20= we did). Continue to have fun and drive safe on your tour. Best regards, Ted PS): To you Portland folk . . . one of these days I'd like to get up=20 your way to play (never having gone any further north than Eugene=20 musically). Any pointers on where a looper might perform up there? On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Rev Fever wrote: > On Jun 15, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > > I'm in Portland OR, having played the 18th show of my tour, and had to=20= > send a thanks for the support last night from Bob Collier, JD Devros,=20= > and Rev Fever - so great to meet all of you. Of course I also met=20 > Nevyn, who played a fascinating and powerful set - really great work. > > a second thanks to Bob and the Rev for the gifts of music for the=20 > road, and to the Rev for showing me sights and escorting me to my next=20= > destination. > > y'all are the best. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > The pleasure of meeting Daryl,=A0Bob Collier, JD Devros, and Nevyn was=20= > mutual for me, as well. Both Daryl and Nevyn did great, and very=20 > different sets.=A0 > Best o' both worlds!=A0=A0I just wish some other Portland area, etc = LDers=20 > could have made it. (We know yer out there! :-))=A0 > Ah well. Maybe next time another out of town LDer comes to Portland? > > Cheers! > Rev Fever > http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ > > PS- JD also did a great set later that evening with another band he is=20= > in, Negara, at a wonderful Ethiopian restaurant! (Bete-Lukas.Thanx for=20= > the tip on that place, JD!)=A0 > http://www.negaramusic.org/iWeb/Negara/Negara.html > > PPS- Hey Daryl, I hope ya were able to get a ticket to see Shellac!?=20= > :-) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 16 15:00:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96ADA3BE75; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:00:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <2CF0278F14A54AF2BDDBE2B701728E73@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <20090615201903.37DD13BE71@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Re: drops Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:00:15 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:00:30 +0000 (UTC) Hi Aaron, The reason why I was fairly invisible to LD - and vice versa - since January was that I switched web and mail hosts, and the new host had a version of SpamAssassin that flagged then threw away LD posts because the mail list LD uses performs a trick making it appear as if all posts are addressed to 'Loopers-Delight @ loopers-delight.com' (minus the spaces). As this is apparently a common spammer trick spam filters will just throw the message away, and unless one has logs set to 'on' on this stuff one will never know the message was even sent to you. My only visible messages from LD in all that time, as a result, were the acknowledgements from subscribe/unsubscribe requests. I wonder what was appearing on-list to the rest of you? Thoughts of the old 'unsub' jokes came back to me in this time. Solution: Get your web/mail hoster to add loopers-delight.com to the whitelist they use. End of problem. > Hate to do it ... but this is just a test. For some reason LD seems to be > dropping some of my posts lately ... does anyone else have intermitten > problems posting? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 16 15:04:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 436D03BE81; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: Subject: Windows 7 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:04:11 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Given the recent query about Vista I must pop up to ask whether anyone else is testing the RC for Windows 7? I've been running it as a server-type process for media files here at home and it's quite seamless from setup to operation. After seeing it running just fine in 64bit server mode for several months - and the RC is much less tweak-requiring - I've wondered about putting it on a machine designed for recording-editing music. Heh, will Cool Edit Pro 2.0 survive this transition? Stephen Goodman * http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 16 15:32:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56D933BE75; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:32:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 360 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:32:48 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_12ec9e23-2e5d-4a26-bb43-0bbca8b0eecb_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.208] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: thanks list Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:26:47 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <134440D9-D2DE-4A7E-B37B-14037037F4BE@btinternet.com> <983304.65204.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <001601c9ed5f$16817a30$0def3547@YOUR08D5303051> <4A3671C4.2010407@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jun 2009 15:26:47.0601 (UTC) FILETIME=[DCF04A10:01C9EE96] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:32:49 +0000 (UTC) --_12ec9e23-2e5d-4a26-bb43-0bbca8b0eecb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I second that! Good job! Glad to see a fellow looper on stage.=20 Now Rev. Fever and I need to do a local gig!! ( and thanks for the kind word about Negara!) =20 J.D.Devros deafrose58 =20 From: revfever@ubergadget.com Subject: Re: thanks list Date: Mon=2C 15 Jun 2009 14:35:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com On Jun 15=2C 2009=2C at 9:07 AM=2C Daryl Shawn wrote: I'm in Portland OR=2C having played the 18th show of my tour=2C and had to = send a thanks for the support last night from Bob Collier=2C JD Devros=2C a= nd Rev Fever - so great to meet all of you. Of course I also met Nevyn=2C w= ho played a fascinating and powerful set - really great work. a second thanks to Bob and the Rev for the gifts of music for the road=2C a= nd to the Rev for showing me sights and escorting me to my next destination= . y'all are the best. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com The pleasure of meeting Daryl=2C Bob Collier=2C JD Devros=2C and Nevyn was = mutual for me=2C as well. Both Daryl and Nevyn did great=2C and very differ= ent sets.=20 Best o' both worlds! I just wish some other Portland area=2C etc LDers cou= ld have made it. (We know yer out there! :-))=20 Ah well. Maybe next time another out of town LDer comes to Portland? Cheers! Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ PS- JD also did a great set later that evening with another band he is in= =2C Negara=2C at a wonderful Ethiopian restaurant! (Bete-Lukas.Thanx for th= e tip on that place=2C JD!)=20 http://www.negaramusic.org/iWeb/Negara/Negara.html PPS- Hey Daryl=2C I hope ya were able to get a ticket to see Shellac!? :-) _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that=92s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=3Dftp_val_wl_290= --_12ec9e23-2e5d-4a26-bb43-0bbca8b0eecb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I second that! Good job! Glad to see a fellow looper on stage.
Now Rev. Fever and I need to do a local gig!!
( =3Band thanks for the kind word about Negara!)
=3B
J.D.Devros
deafrose58
=3B

From: revfever@ubergadget.com
Subject: Re: thanks list
Date: Mon=2C 1= 5 Jun 2009 14:35:51 -0700
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

On Jun 15=2C 2009=2C at 9:07 AM=2C Daryl Shawn wrote:

= I'm in Portland OR=2C having played the 18th show of my tour=2C and had to = send a thanks for the support last night from Bob Collier=2C JD Devros=2C a= nd Rev Fever - so great to meet all of you. Of course I also met Nevyn=2C w= ho played a fascinating and powerful set - really great work.

= a second thanks to Bob and the Rev for the gifts of music for the road=2C a= nd to the Rev for showing me sights and escorting me to my next destination= .

= y'all are the best.

= Daryl Shawn

= www.swanwelder.com

= www.chinapaintingmusic.com

The pleasure of meeting Daryl=2C =3BBob Collier=2C JD De= vros=2C and Nevyn was mutual for me=2C as well. Both Daryl and Nevyn did gr= eat=2C and very different sets. =3B

Best o' both worlds! =3B =3BI just wish some other Portland ar= ea=2C etc LDers could have made it. (We know yer out there! :-)) =3B
Ah well. Maybe next time another out of town LDer comes to Portland?

Cheers!

Rev Fever<= /SPAN>

http://www.spiritone.co= m/~rvfever/

PS- JD also did a great set later that evening with another band he is= in=2C Negara=2C at a wonderful Ethiopian restaurant! (Bete-Lukas.Thanx for= the tip on that place=2C JD!) =3B

http://= www.negaramusic.org/iWeb/Negara/Negara.html

PPS- Hey Daryl=2C I hope ya were able to get a ticket to see Shellac!?= :-)

Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that=92s right for you. = --_12ec9e23-2e5d-4a26-bb43-0bbca8b0eecb_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 16 16:23:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39CB43BE75; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A37C70A.1040704@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:23:38 -0700 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: thanks list References: <134440D9-D2DE-4A7E-B37B-14037037F4BE@btinternet.com> <983304.65204.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <001601c9ed5f$16817a30$0def3547@YOUR08D5303051> <4A3671C4.2010407@mhorse.com> <9ac35a0cea7400037f730837fc166f96@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <9ac35a0cea7400037f730837fc166f96@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8hRDxB.A.soC.Qc8NKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Ted, thanks to YOU for setting up the show, hosting and playing your burning future guitar w/me. A heady and exhilarating experience! Looking forward to hearing the recordings. thanks too for the good wishes. looking forward to next time. best, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Daryl, > > Thanks also for stopping and playing in Southern Oregon on your way > through to Portland. > > I had fun . . . I hope you did too. > > I also mad a recording of our gig on my little H2 - which I will share > with you at some point (probably upload it to Box.net). > > The recordings sound better than one might think. > > Much of the material sounds pretty good in fact (particularly the > duets we did). > > Continue to have fun and drive safe on your tour. > > Best regards, > > Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 16 16:24:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12FF33BE85; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A37C74F.6070401@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:24:47 -0700 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers delight, you are amazing References: <333287c30906150402x61401c1ch86ccc854b8a277df@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <333287c30906150402x61401c1ch86ccc854b8a277df@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Heh, I sent my note before seeing yours, Nevyn. thanks for the nice words on my stuff, I definitely return those compliments. I'm very happy to hear it was recorded, can't wait to hear that.! I also have neglected in my busy days to say public thanks to Dave Trenkel for setting me up with a sweet venue, doing promo and hosting me in Corvallis, OR. This tour wouldn't be half what it is w/out my LD peeps, I'll echo Nevyn again. (Rev - yup, I made it to Shellac, great show). Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Just wanted to thank the list for hooking up loopers in Portland. > Daryl Shawn and I played a show in an east coast type club this > afternoon (small, boxy, but speakers carried sound oh so nicely); he > really does some seriously amazing guitar and vintage/old school > technology looping. Really really enjoyed it. We even had a few other > loopers show up from the list (send me your contact info guys!). > > Just wanted to say Loopers Delight, you are great; and that includes > all of you on the list. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 16 17:24:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D59B93BE7E; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:24:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1245173092; bh=kTiQcf0OW6sbIksLb8efZLSLD2A4n50EzZFw9jNm86w=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IusvoTJXrmpZpTYFW8uljtsLfPkdtEeDK1oiXJtu9oEZY2HASEiR0XR5s80lospwVTm5LRlWD6ZrCuP/Y8+XLy6J83yQkGVIQkJXRy1wYz7BdQSSoGlMKUAsr8bzMQE48C0f3izmP8khovfxIUpRCZyUdLQEv6NJlBefoEbKmI0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zxMLqEp3Pic/s2gU8YXHlFMo9FwK8gSM0TvfLPTxIRxoN3hYjfnQ53tmx+Y+5KMFsvqwHY78tQ4iwVM1EcNavLi1nGHj5ukx+QV8Wim4jA6kkPA3vpArD/6UyvGjWk7qSH8vEVoXmhjR+6UZdc5vvFL8WPORRaD5p4JcDa9sMXg=; Message-ID: <610399.70601.qm@web38104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7BIaYb0VM1nGvw8lesn28c9yfPcjsNBOk7iqm8xrGTpzFBONFXrdQgOYA7PPSdSrUecDVnbi5hl9Y2JE54xVpryPaw.t.pGQBn1VKF2xEAuYCj_NiHp5qdXYIrKz8Kc7E4x2duvmu5JIbE3V0M.bi.qGfF9Wi5Mmbx4OeuBc7.Rib0IOY9TAFi0qjJiaH3BPWVkB2B2pkow7CNEiYGpNixQlfhFq0W02l3BTa2MbUGYfPQj5BWT.kjvx_cyNnY9VBf8_eMePV3PcpI_yZTthIYOfBK2.CB_22IOJQ0DLWsBQKRmdNou7VYj4uoqkzScVXibgY9jwUu2fHuIEXuM- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.12 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:24:52 -0700 (PDT) From: AKIM TRIEBSCH Subject: RE: Livelooping in Antwerp - Blog To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1361293248-1245173092=:70601" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:24:53 +0000 (UTC) --0-1361293248-1245173092=:70601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah! =A0Thanks Sjaak! --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Sjaak wrote: From: Sjaak Subject: RE: Livelooping in Antwerp - Blog To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 11:57 AM > Nice bit of diary on the looping festival, hopefully we'll=20 > have some decent recordings soon from the pa and the video... I talked with Ronald today and he is working on it ;) As said earlier, I expect the audio files no earlier than end of June, the video's a bit later= . I'll keep you posted. ---=20 Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20 http://euroloopfest.com/ =0A=0A=0A --0-1361293248-1245173092=:70601 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah! =A0Thanks Sjaak!

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--- On Mon, 6/15/09, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> = wrote:

From: Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be>=
Subject: RE: Livelooping in Antwerp - Blog
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 11:57 AM

> Nice bit of diary on the looping festival, hopefully we'll=
> have some decent recordings soon from the pa and the video...
I talked with Ronald today and he is working on it ;) As said earlier, Iexpect the audio files no earlier than end of June, the video's a bit lat= er.
I'll keep you posted.

---
Sjaak
http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
http://euroloopfest.co= m/

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Thanks for Your Total Understanding I wait your full details ASAP, (Job Processing Unit) Payments Instructor ANDREW WOODS ARTIST United Kingdom, Tom Woodgate Email:tomwoodgate03@googlemail.com Website: http://www.andrew-wood.com/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 16 18:39:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A0A33BE82; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:39:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=LIvcoZmBO96pecF/ew9sxLIQenw4MAR5QOakncbmN8QXd6uYMj7RZDOwdLnG6Soz; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <21804591.1245177596206.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:39:56 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: footswitch woes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48ee53e42eaf297bc4a1d65b3c04f8552f86936b69e59fefa2350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.31 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:39:56 +0000 (UTC) >Kind of OT here. My Zvex Fuzz Factory footswitch has gone on the fritz! I am >not adverse to replacing it myself because I need it before this weekend. >Zvex has so far failed to respond. it looks like a normal sort of switch. I >suppose it will invalidate the warranty if I do it though. >Any thoughts before I dive in? >Jeff good luck-ZVEX himself always seems to be on this forum:http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=10&f=29 he's quick to answer any questionss about his stuff. s From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 16 20:51:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C47F3BE7F; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3608 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:51:30 UTC Message-id: <4A37F7AA.7020508@soundscapes.us> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:51:06 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #636 for June 11, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:51:31 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090611.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #636 June 11, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on the Ricochet Gathering. The Featured CD at Midnight was disk two from La Gomera on the Ricochet Dream label. Ricochet Gathering: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#jun PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Dirk Serries Microphonics III Microphonics I-V (Tonefloat) Faryus Free Flying Lucid Dreams (Faria) Ray Carl Daye Windsweeper Spectral Navigator (Magnatune) Johan Agebjorn Dulciter Somni Mossebo (Lotuspike) Cluster So Ney Qua (Nepenthe) Ricochet Gathering Green As Green Can La Gomera d2 (Ricochet Dream) Be Ricochet Gathering Door In the Blue La Gomera d2 (Ricochet Dream) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Ricochet Gathering Islands On the Run La Gomera d2 (Ricochet Dream) Ricochet Gathering Castillo On the La Gomera d2 (Ricochet Dream) Rocks Ricochet Gathering Joy of Swimming La Gomera d2 (Ricochet Dream) Ricochet Gathering Out of Orange La Gomera d2 (Ricochet Dream) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on the Ricochet Gathering. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk three from La Gomera on the Ricochet Dream label. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Facebook: http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=95658555829 RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 16 22:41:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0002F3BE73; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=47C+gxiW1m5NObDgPdVSWTiG3ghkJKpeCB7w/Uq0fyk=; b=pnGoul2x3c4JkCxorcTsgrrnLd7fr4mM6t1QV/0RBwmZmeTsfOILHEM+erIX65sk+j ZEaxIpin1ruFg8aTKrBs2RXyp+7a6lcba+aFc0t2s1S9mHfaNN1k5PjYw7BBf6UaH6Za B3OrPDy9uYHjMkZHd74dp9VbmIV7bDILGcIGI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=O41HArP2gx3ybSfoS+N6DY7xjI+8Bj4R3lzjzp1xuSyXNkIZmHs+yRRc/Lu2FO39np oY4mLpcxHn21p1qIQFhKFJj0YM31TpxUq6b4M4xlZVhPf5t625T8ym6tcwgFl7CIs48m 0Zj3YYoczvFv2DtYmEvDOTj4DOssUvW67MH6E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:41:48 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Windows 7 From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Over yonder on kvraudio.com a fair number of people seem to have moved to Windows 7for audio pretty seamlessly. I briefly considered it but after finding MOTU's 64bit drivers working well with Vista I decided to play it safe and wait for the release. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Given the recent query about Vista I must pop up to ask whether anyone el= se > is testing the RC for Windows 7? > > I've been running it as a server-type process for media files here at hom= e > and it's quite seamless from setup to operation. =A0After seeing it runni= ng > just fine in 64bit server mode for several months - and the RC is much le= ss > tweak-requiring - I've wondered about putting it on a machine designed fo= r > recording-editing music. =A0Heh, will Cool Edit Pro 2.0 survive this > transition? > > Stephen Goodman > * > http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman > http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 16 22:53:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F6CE3BE7C; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2456 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:53:51 UTC Message-ID: <4A381A56.7070103@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:19:02 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: Potential live looper tablet PC? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:53:52 +0000 (UTC) New Gigabyte toyz: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1271791/gaggle-gigabyte-goodies-tip Scroll down to the T1028M tablet model with swirweling touchscreen. Dunno.. Atom cpu and only 1GB ram.. but else potentially fairly sexy. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 16 23:28:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD01C3BE75; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=g1N5rnQg/g5SyFML39HJTW2RnsGMQbhCxu3IB+1QOps=; b=OwUozYxrebZbJImGVP7xZDwNTpWla/XinS/bWZ5FSFgMaG5niwl2bkp7GSDUwwFX0s NsBxWTleHY9D67eGf7iyTZApHBojdR4brq3JN8xXMtLuBtuUS8ZfrIgK5weSEYEYL9yt trhU97k7ZTLyayvODy9T1QZkIGuzUFdG423Ag= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uIwe6JdCr3QwJac6lhf3S6FrVW2iLEO9OjmT2OH8YiMuJqkO82HckfpWmx514TosLa QQJgF2+pwXVg3nj3ZRGsnJ9Ka9JEnALkzQOcLOoZ5G8V8dYrVE4Phmc5L8zdhO4HDKRg KYF+dnwAgkkOi/8aiVEddQ/Ih+V2AZM7IypA8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A381A56.7070103@post.cybercity.dk> References: <4A381A56.7070103@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:20:56 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Potential live looper tablet PC? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:28:10 +0000 (UTC) My quest for a new PC kind of started by my "wow" factor after playing around with the HP Touchsmart PCs. For fun, I tried to keep track of how often I'm actually manipulating things on the computer with my mouse. The answer was "surprisingly low." The price of the touchiness seemed to about double the cost of the computer (though to be fair it had a built in monitor, but I don't need a monitor). The plain truth is my fingers are usually playing guitar or keyboard most of the time and most other manipulation happens with pedals. I'm still interested, but more from a "recreate the sci-fi fantasy" that's going on in my head standpoint. If I were more of a DJish/Daft Punk kind of guy I may have bitten, but I'm going to wait and maybe retrofit my monitor to become a touch screen at a later date. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:19 PM, van Sinn wrote: > New Gigabyte toyz: > http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1271791/gaggle-gigabyte-goodies-= tip > > Scroll down to the T1028M tablet model with swirweling touchscreen. > Dunno.. Atom cpu and only 1GB ram.. =A0but else potentially fairly sexy. > > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 16 23:28:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCE3C3BE8B; Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:28:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=toJh0DBRB0lTvaAzXKCKBtynlUZYL3+qZybKeuipATM=; b=DtYE5knAPbmzNPHLnEE2xgphzXG2+ZARfTdO0bwLgDYaWfM0fILEqoCRBOYxOT5vOw nAFhVVKAQ0kjbNvsbzfvFMq4gdZ2EkOYofS1pNUaH5giul0gWhPkTA2+VtlOnu96UZV7 P6hFnWwDVScKEsmSCKnmgEjnCC3RwzWMKLM4Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=p81s5skQitIKhl5LQl7LE4tvMuF15jpyXojFWxSRZqM6WOLVmlioBZ/IV3ZFu+57Lh ujYFAPr8P+pFpIduxJ0fiVqx58I12cF937cFkpok02Lj9Z0of/eSNDEyzG9QeNwJ7Vj+ O4w4SEvRzjuJxwU7arXa00mA8eR7LCwJLCTzw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:28:29 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: XY controller pedal. From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:28:30 +0000 (UTC) For a long time, I've had a dream... My dream is for a midi controller pedal that's kind of like the ones that come with the Zoom G9.2tt http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/g92tt/index.php Basically a pedal with with two vectors for control. Rather than a swivel I'd like for it to be pressure sensitive like aftertouch on a keyboard. I think it would be an amazing boon to guitarists and really any instrumentalist who's hands are both tied up with those silly "notes." I wrote to IK about this a long time ago but they just put out a very boring (but functional) USB2/Control pedal-audio IO device with nothing very exciting. Is there anything like this? I'd hate to have to get an entire effects processor just for that functionality. Can something like this be custom made? A regular pedal retrofitted? Can peanutbutter and chocolate combine in some sort of delicious candy? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 01:08:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F1923BE75; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:08:26 -0500 Subject: RE: Potential live looper tablet PC? Thread-Topic: Potential live looper tablet PC? Thread-Index: Acnu2h5H5xsWoboDTzyEEAy9YbOzfwADMUv4 Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3D4DE67@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <4A381A56.7070103@post.cybercity.dk>, In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ninja-pim: Scanned by Ninja x-ninja-attachmentfiltering: (no action) acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:08:49 +0000 (UTC) I'm in love with this... http://hexler.net/software/touchosc The iTouch sends OSC messages over WiFi to a Mac running OSCulator. OSCulator converts OSC to MIDI to a virtual device. Mobius opens virtual device and receives MIDI. Velcro the iTouch to your guitar. Mayhem ensue= s. Making this work with a PC seems to be a bit more hacky. pd can do=20 OSC to MIDI conversion but I haven't found anything as elegant as OSCulator= . FWIW, Jeff= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 01:22:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0A283BE80; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Oh/lo3h1QcNa/o9dn83I7y4Rmjtk/B19E5NeAb3fQ6w=; b=A+Ktv1hbt2BMChlLjdnA7dtiDUtBbY3/TD5qRpfi3/fOo1A1lFALNkeeH4tp9AqKdc Lei5C9qs3Yx1Qmrrh5pkZe4reyYSuuBBWyMzoNB6TGECJ6KIB4rFXguHnQYYMOG5fFFJ 5NK8f6H0mYbligaUFj3LcWtNkYMyBepU1NOec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dCpLkraQzAL/NwLPr1iA76PL6FMhp89MsY0fZUBqCq0f6BQnzA6WMuTWyDWS7XpQIq vPx7bbvBV/7Xpcm7e4lriuQcShoWA+TaD3IQ+t/7NPqPODjk8998hbCRunAk0e3Nam33 aclKb0OZnlptDejEwGjN6Ba/jTfAcfUMY5M7k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3D4DE67@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <4A381A56.7070103@post.cybercity.dk> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3D4DE67@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:22:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Potential live looper tablet PC? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:22:38 +0000 (UTC) That does look fun indeed... On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Jeff Larson wro= te: > I'm in love with this... > > =A0 =A0http://hexler.net/software/touchosc > > The iTouch sends OSC messages over WiFi to a Mac running OSCulator. > OSCulator converts OSC to MIDI to a virtual device. =A0Mobius opens virtu= al > device and receives MIDI. =A0 Velcro the iTouch to your guitar. =A0Mayhem= ensues. > > Making this work with a PC seems to be a bit more hacky. =A0pd can do > OSC to MIDI conversion but I haven't found anything as elegant as OSCulat= or. > > FWIW, > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 02:46:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36CA03BE77; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:46:58 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: TC electronic interface In-Reply-To: References: <4A381A56.7070103@post.cybercity.dk> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3D4DE67@barq.sailpoint.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20090617024654.B581F247A3@ns3.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2TLqyC.A.3gH.ikFOKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I've been looking for a half rack size interface. I've checked out the Motu ultralight but had some compatibility issues and wondered if anyone has used the TC electronic Konnekt 24 http://www.tcelectronic.com/default.asp?id=11055 . On paper it looks real good and I've always had good luck with other equipment of theirs that I've had. Any thoughts? Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca Ontario, Canada From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 03:17:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BC023BE7C; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:17:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 330 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:17:17 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Bk481ydTX0MYaLh3XmOleLJu40OnjEKclUifLI9ScTw=; b=GYFCMKOGxUEx8xs0TbCVZuW+5dAhJOZu/aMaR7Iogcj98wH08ReGS5MnWSnbp8IHjq Z9AgfOFN0ZecsA0YCdl5zBp1n1OAD8N739vG+lG3dBGVUpQi4QB1EIautqz+74/jburR wfGTmHPwsESkto+PMeW1hi2NIGZZOSKs7ZYjI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=x+SG0pTsrYNT7EAQTJmXTddjC9zthpgEUGEEIVheQOx1++8lJ1CD6/FvMne+4JrWTn rRPX8Oun+MDniRrL+o66VJVOg4uPn1jDIbMoZQPI1MtHHc+rR0kXBM5tjlcCnDY/lN92 cDJq32lQRWXi59Pt+Jayo0U07C/vkblsUFZLw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:11:46 -0700 Message-ID: <14389e070906162011u5c9d8e10i97bd5087ce64007@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Article on Steve Moyes Live Looping Gig From: James To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd28d4ac7ef13046c82a69f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:17:18 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd28d4ac7ef13046c82a69f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Amaranth Arthouse Music blog article on Steve's gig from 6-14-09. http://jccombs.com/2009/06/17/ustream-fantasia-by-steve-moyes/ -- James Combs --000e0cd28d4ac7ef13046c82a69f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Amaranth Arthouse Music blog article on Steve'= ;s gig from 6-14-09.=A0
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--000e0cd28d4ac7ef13046c82a69f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 05:47:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97F7D3BE79; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0DV9dTOfspE5pENcAhB+Pzo+M8doabwL6+4Z6xiSa+8=; b=dFXW+xOX/AVzNn8aRUUzQXbfV7IQt5Y/7P1wPRM6TYd1I8PtNxJQ8qYYVEK2NHQtz/ /Rg3RSUYu8SyprLiVnOS2CwKimKor6W3Js+jIFklnGV6NLAXtNUDE10H1bY6JHJlhH3o UlzhRDFWpmZiN551Bc0Hku5ZsYG7b2V67hDtU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=aCj4pyyM5/t2Hng8gB94Cp5CcvjPaLSjBwvMg2aHsFk3qD0Ff6gM43qgwVEED3Wlb4 cqDl4TckjYBHOpNY/nMoITlS85yvOnd2sRgxUFJyAuEEsa6OuR/dSD0G0kGtsRtlITKk mmH89JJYjdnLXheGO59apFB1lW2f5L330R0hA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:47:24 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906162247x30ad0624hdad6aab42a0719e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: TC electronic interface From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:47:25 +0000 (UTC) > I've checked out the Motu ultralight but had some compatibility issues and wondered if anyone has used the TC electronic Konnekt 24 http://www.tcelectronic.com/default.asp?id=11055. > On paper it looks real good and I've always had good luck with other equipment of theirs that I've had. (Note that while you say "Konnekt 24", your link refers to the "Konnekt 24D" - which I'll also refer to. And I'm going to do only a quick, early morning review here). * Lots of (sometimes knowledgeable) people have mentioned the high quality of both the pres and the converters (the latters being referred to as "the best converters in a complex interface below 1500 bucks" e.g. at recording.org). With only superficial comparisons, I can second that. * The thing is really big and heavy in comparison with other interfaces with a comparable feature set. This may be of relevance in a mobile performance setup; it won't fit into some of the more shallow racks. * The quality of the built-in effects is top-notch, both the Fabric R reverb and the Fabric C channel strip. No wonder, these algorithms reportedly come from the System6000. * TC Electronic have issues both with stability and performance of their drivers/chipset. Lots of people have reported this. In a comparable application setting, obtainable latency settings have been over double of those of other, sometimes considerably cheaper interfaces (e.g. Presonus Firebox). * In comparison with a lot of other interfaces, routing is VERY inflexible in the onboard mixer. This does include that the Fabric C algorithms can only be applied to input channels 1 and 2. * In the same realm, the gain structure of the Fabric C and the mixer is very inflexible. For that reason, level setting for some line signals which come in below +4dB is at least impractical. * won't go into the obvious (number of channels etc. here, you've most probably already reviewd them in detail on their website). Summarizing: the biggest issue for me is the drivers/chipset thing. Here, they really don't live up to what we've come to expect from their non-computer gear. The big size and weight may or may not be an issue for you. If both items aren't a problem for you (e.g. if using the interface for stationary recording purposes), then you get the reportedly best converters in that price range, some high-quality pres and some outstanding algorithms for the money which is not the cheapest for the feature set. Otherwise...you might look at a Marian UCON CX. Marian obviously faced the problem that customers weren't able to accept a USB interface with a professional feature set. But if you're able to accept that drivers are available only for XP, you get them dead cheap at some factory sales - if you get them. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 06:37:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAE363BE79; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:37:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=mVlxesSVlkHfodtm6gInLfcRcLlaOD/jbNDh5jd9VQaEuUPYXfM0ObNaLgKw6ZUHIBu5HresdfyBizt42U8o0/JMo09ODhLUIHU6qM9Zg02oG8z748DlqnpMrzI5i61UJU5G4oCpMaZ+RrUFR4VlEq1DRFi0kxCJl3J40X7RWZk= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: 19caLJQVM1lTK7NGLq.2VZYztkGjUEEuOpnAkMSUKvRWzA_rbBu2Y0g7YeXaABulrFCoS0OW7oA6VkAt82WYopofcB0vu9mxw5zhgLq6WkGVsId5Xz4sgc7d.w9wuuNa.mgc.K6w1tw5q6MFS4Zj7KOMjFa0LpXb52AN6TpTpRV6jx3e2cWCOJy0h3gxhipd2.zTPycFZj4eD3ak0QzZ5TYu3f3SLahhZxDSuazc0W3q7ipDjUAw46vSYR28wPRzQFI90.8KM_D7WFu88E4GZ6ugoAaQX5vUwSfoUi3cyvtbp1vI8hCAn68- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <14389e070906162011u5c9d8e10i97bd5087ce64007@mail.gmail.com> References: <14389e070906162011u5c9d8e10i97bd5087ce64007@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-625501518 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Article on Steve Moyes Live Looping Gig Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:37:53 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:37:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-625501518 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Interesting blog - that was a wonderful gig. Very cool Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 17 Jun 2009, at 04:11, James wrote: > Amaranth Arthouse Music blog article on Steve's gig from 6-14-09. > http://jccombs.com/2009/06/17/ustream-fantasia-by-steve-moyes/ > > -- > James Combs > --Apple-Mail-1-625501518 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Interesting blog - that was a wonderful gig. Very cool

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 07:55:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E59D3BE82; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 213290426/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.156.143/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.156.143 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al8CAKs+OEpPTpyP/2dsb2JhbAAI02WECwWIcQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,234,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="213290426" Message-ID: <4A38A493.4030503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:08:51 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Potential live looper tablet PC? References: <4A381A56.7070103@post.cybercity.dk>, <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3D4DE67@barq.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3D4DE67@barq.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Larson wrote: > I'm in love with this... > > http://hexler.net/software/touchosc > > The iTouch sends OSC messages over WiFi to a Mac running OSCulator. > OSCulator converts OSC to MIDI to a virtual device. Mobius opens virtual > device and receives MIDI. Velcro the iTouch to your guitar. Mayhem ensues. > > Making this work with a PC seems to be a bit more hacky. pd can do > OSC to MIDI conversion but I haven't found anything as elegant as OSCulator. Bidule seems to be OSC capable. > > FWIW, > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 08:12:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 052823BE7F; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: <5BF2F37B-4B5A-4AF2-AEA8-1969487ED9B5@mac.com> From: Teddy Kumpel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Subject: Re: XY controller pedal. Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:12:05 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: <05qk_B.A.0g.YVKOKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:12:08 +0000 (UTC) I am friends with someone high up at Zoom and have been telling them this already... there is the Moog MP-201 fingers crossed... Teddy On Jun 17, 2009, at 1:28 AM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > For a long time, I've had a dream... > > My dream is for a midi controller pedal that's kind of like the ones > that come with the Zoom G9.2tt > > http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/g92tt/index.php > > Basically a pedal with with two vectors for control. Rather than a > swivel I'd like for it to be pressure sensitive like aftertouch on a > keyboard. > > I think it would be an amazing boon to guitarists and really any > instrumentalist who's hands are both tied up with those silly "notes." > I wrote to IK about this a long time ago but they just put out a very > boring (but functional) USB2/Control pedal-audio IO device with > nothing very exciting. > > Is there anything like this? I'd hate to have to get an entire > effects processor just for that functionality. Can something like > this be custom made? A regular pedal retrofitted? Can peanutbutter > and chocolate combine in some sort of delicious candy? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 08:16:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62E903BE84; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:16:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 453 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:16:20 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject :date:x-mailer; bh=j7DnOJWyKribzN1De6rUAu26c1bQ1x58xjos9/P7NeU=; b=E7rbhlAfklJxWLtw7B+xc9ww5JjA9WNi+J1oD8Cmil+A9dLnfwY5HezP4IowcOxDdX Kthcl751879BCnQ8LXCuToGUj/2e+w6qT+Vi7SeA+7CbhboByVV7JbfNuxNnSHEur0B/ BSmdVi1LBthjmzMsQNYamUIKn8AxcFOsxRxZo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to :from:subject:date:x-mailer; b=Mml+nLXifSz/G7M5bxnIz/QByDX0uE2qyDrbUhCaD/Xuu7awgQaDD/xUYG174acl8f 378V5wjPoHEywsXuX1YPHAIR6R04HNQgoa4sfOrXAO2siaYblY0iVxgXdUlrxTHkhQqa 2GoOgtR+lpXgzhXwwaDpixoUMgy+iwxf0fsoI= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: topu lyo Subject: venues in boston// july 3rd??? Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:08:42 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:16:20 +0000 (UTC) Hello loopers i am a nyc looper and am trying to just fill in one date in my small east coast tour. if anyone has any leads to a venue / contact on july 3rd in boston we would much appreciate any info. the band name is livefootagebrooklyn.com myspace.com/livefootagebrooklyn it is cello and drum electronic duo :: drum n' bass / classical / ambient hope all is well in the world of looping!!! topu From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 08:40:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB96F3BE88; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1245228048; bh=kd6tBSqal5yMbn6eLYt8pYsA7Zw4++B5BRdq4bn3ooI=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=IEhD6DyCwDKx5Gc0LzH5/c+Spm/uFAgSf0wpSmcMLpvngFOOmikggfVGQUlLXzU3N 2JlkvxqL6X4yieN+4NWwxx3vEV0nZRpzW4He3T5b5PJpn2oiksl6gNFMt7JzLs/Z9u izeEAKCkmmBHuf57moXlBRIqecEOA4PhkAuQsDK8= Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:40:47 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re:TC electronic interface MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:40:49 +0000 (UTC) > Hi, > I've been looking for a half rack size interface. I've checked out > the Motu ultralight but had some compatibility issues Hi Paul, I'm using the Motu Ultralite on OSX 10.5 since Jan '09 and I haven't had = a single hic-up with it. What specific issues did you experience? --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! Scarlet NO LIMIT nu slechts 19,95 EUR Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 09:05:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C013E3BE8A; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:05:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48C37AEF84E24406A0718DFE141B3707@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: Windows 7 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:04:48 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:05:06 +0000 (UTC) Since the Win7 RC will run until June 1 2010 it's a fair bet that this will be investigated further..! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:41 PM Subject: Re: Windows 7 Over yonder on kvraudio.com a fair number of people seem to have moved to Windows 7for audio pretty seamlessly. I briefly considered it but after finding MOTU's 64bit drivers working well with Vista I decided to play it safe and wait for the release. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Given the recent query about Vista I must pop up to ask whether anyone > else > is testing the RC for Windows 7? > > I've been running it as a server-type process for media files here at home > and it's quite seamless from setup to operation. After seeing it running > just fine in 64bit server mode for several months - and the RC is much > less > tweak-requiring - I've wondered about putting it on a machine designed for > recording-editing music. Heh, will Cool Edit Pro 2.0 survive this > transition? > > Stephen Goodman > * > http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman > http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 11:30:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3135D3BE84; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:30:25 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <4A38A493.4030503@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <20090617113025.319110@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4A381A56.7070103@post.cybercity.dk>, <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3D4DE67@barq.sailpoint.com> <4A38A493.4030503@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Potential live looper tablet PC? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/MYSN2pGbMyd95RllKng6bJfG7aodZJ65GMQ73Ok 5wINiDbcsBCOgQNA2il2kuYEq4AJKF7+dvbQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: sL9TIu4pTlI8ccF+jGlrl0BOU2poZVks X-FuHaFi: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:30:30 +0000 (UTC) I'll still wait for whatever tablet device Apple is planning... -- GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate und Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 11:47:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DB843BE8E; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1MoCsWfamtpGoxw+qRbDINaI0e8kE+WNae62zIvvwzI=; b=TuISsRaGR70FeJ7FucqNxKS8AqswNyai7gyyHoubjUx9ov6ALZ3en/IiWm4e4jEBG/ 28anQq+Qx/Jn4COoVZvxrgoUszItIfdc1HJWom7JzKop4Cre4A3sdfWAZNr+hxxcfXj8 bQU3VS2nn+9xIzvXFAFhnHzEMUNTMMpBed9JE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fznuYZfmMoMEhaCluvH1dLND9UMEMjg1BY6zgywg/x9f1SmPAR+YHdt6gqR9mRtvNc MgyniM5A80h3bstfMCzseiA8iVqbAYaKP4Wbeg3p6630OsWcOQ9x2pJRc5u/lX1Bb7ZE ZGJhd/5yF9/Lu2kz/uOawSEGi0EM3aL4EA1+4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0906162247x30ad0624hdad6aab42a0719e@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0906162247x30ad0624hdad6aab42a0719e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:47:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: TC electronic interface From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:47:30 +0000 (UTC) what about the tc konnekt live? has it been discontinued? 2009/6/17, Rainer Straschill : >> I've checked out the Motu ultralight but had some compatibility issues and >> wondered if anyone has used the TC electronic Konnekt 24 >> http://www.tcelectronic.com/default.asp?id=11055. >> On paper it looks real good and I've always had good luck with other >> equipment of theirs that I've had. > (Note that while you say "Konnekt 24", your link refers to the > "Konnekt 24D" - which I'll also refer to. And I'm going to do only a > quick, early morning review here). > > * Lots of (sometimes knowledgeable) people have mentioned the high > quality of both the pres and the converters (the latters being > referred to as "the best converters in a complex interface below 1500 > bucks" e.g. at recording.org). With only superficial comparisons, I > can second that. > > * The thing is really big and heavy in comparison with other > interfaces with a comparable feature set. This may be of relevance in > a mobile performance setup; it won't fit into some of the more shallow > racks. > > * The quality of the built-in effects is top-notch, both the Fabric R > reverb and the Fabric C channel strip. No wonder, these algorithms > reportedly come from the System6000. > > * TC Electronic have issues both with stability and performance of > their drivers/chipset. Lots of people have reported this. In a > comparable application setting, obtainable latency settings have been > over double of those of other, sometimes considerably cheaper > interfaces (e.g. Presonus Firebox). > > * In comparison with a lot of other interfaces, routing is VERY > inflexible in the onboard mixer. This does include that the Fabric C > algorithms can only be applied to input channels 1 and 2. > > * In the same realm, the gain structure of the Fabric C and the mixer > is very inflexible. For that reason, level setting for some line > signals which come in below +4dB is at least impractical. > > * won't go into the obvious (number of channels etc. here, you've most > probably already reviewd them in detail on their website). > > Summarizing: the biggest issue for me is the drivers/chipset thing. > Here, they really don't live up to what we've come to expect from > their non-computer gear. The big size and weight may or may not be an > issue for you. If both items aren't a problem for you (e.g. if using > the interface for stationary recording purposes), then you get the > reportedly best converters in that price range, some high-quality pres > and some outstanding algorithms for the money which is not the > cheapest for the feature set. > > Otherwise...you might look at a Marian UCON CX. Marian obviously faced > the problem that customers weren't able to accept a USB interface with > a professional feature set. But if you're able to accept that drivers > are available only for XP, you get them dead cheap at some factory > sales - if you get them. > > Rainer > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 12:48:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03F5F3BE86; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A38E626.8040401@dehnhard.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:48:38 -0500 From: Tilmann Dehnhard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: TC electronic interface References: <7334ca1b0906162247x30ad0624hdad6aab42a0719e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX197OPu/dXs6CauQx1wkl2lYlw6fpd/Y3QfLKgb F2FQS5is4Qwj/aShyXwBAgR2jXvJ3LCNCN8nEod1Oc6+QTey8W 0abbgL8L7MIYifV2aY+S0nVACU4KPUI Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:48:42 +0000 (UTC) my tc konnekt 24d sounds great but tc doesn't support atom processors - a real bummer for travelling musicians. (forget tablet pcs and mini notebooks) this is definitely not a plug and play product. the konnekts have driver issues. the firewire chipset is of utmost importance (should better be texas instruments). lots of little things have to be done before the konnekt runs with xp - stop any wireless connection, change power management, get servicepack 3, get two updates on firewire management. when you're through that, it's an enjoyable tool. t From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 13:04:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E3DB3BE79; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:04:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:04:26 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re:TC electronic interface In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20090617130438.65201248AA@ns3.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: <72YF.A.DvG.mnOOKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:04:39 +0000 (UTC) Hi Sjaak, I'm using a PC and running xp sp3. The local store loaned me an 896 HD and I also tried out the ultralight and would get this occasional dropout proceeded by a micro second high frequency squeal and pop. I've tried every firewire card I could get my hands on, made sure that they had the Texas Instruments chipset, not running anything else on the computer, optimized the operating system. I've spent hours talking with the store technicians and on the phone with Motu and tried every solution they could think of except changing over to a mac. This has all been with an Intel motherboard, Intel duo core cpu and 4 gig ram. I have a focusrite saphire pro 26I/O that works with it no issues, but was wanting to run a second computer to process midi synth sounds into my present setup. I am also hoping to use this to interface my Yamaha O3D via Adat into the computer. Paul At 04:40 AM 6/17/2009, you wrote: > > Hi, > > I've been looking for a half rack size interface. I've checked out > > the Motu ultralight but had some compatibility issues > >Hi Paul, >I'm using the Motu Ultralite on OSX 10.5 since Jan '09 and I haven't >had a single hic-up with it. What specific issues did you experience? >--- >Sjaak >http://euroloopfest.com/ >http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > >__________________________________ >Scarlet schrapt download limiet! >Scarlet NO LIMIT nu slechts 19,95 EUR >Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 13:13:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC4B33BE7F; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A38EC8B.2060004@het.it> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:15:55 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Hi loopers! References: <20090617130438.65201248AA@ns3.tnt21.com> In-Reply-To: <20090617130438.65201248AA@ns3.tnt21.com> Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------040105040500020101050906" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090106-1, 06/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:13:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040105040500020101050906 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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I'm Massimo from Italy, some of you knows me.

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luq8b6zZL//pf/v6v//83//+//8A8U/gQIIFDR5EmFDhQoYJAwIAOw== --------------040105040500020101050906-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 13:57:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFBEF3BE73; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:57:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <14389e070906162011u5c9d8e10i97bd5087ce64007@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: Article on Steve Moyes Live Looping Gig Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:57:45 +0200 Message-ID: <006a01c9ef53$980a36a0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006B_01C9EF64.5B9306A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <14389e070906162011u5c9d8e10i97bd5087ce64007@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: AcnvTjcl1w5Xrj+bTSWL/HYxcnpgFAABUR1w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.187; VDF: 7.1.4.99) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:57:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C9EF64.5B9306A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > blog article on Steve's gig from 6-14-09 watched this clip and loved your music a lot Steve !! -Michael Peters ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C9EF64.5B9306A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 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------=_NextPart_000_00E6_01C9EF67.F21C2310-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 15:34:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B69F3BE70; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=p+FxU001JkCdQe5sCmRGwZATSREuZ1On7O49y+NtwhA=; b=ok1hAM0wQ073TND5nmblB05RUqGovUXDP/90FZslxJsxKHzeuHO2eTIt2Rir/dJoSB U2dkUXX6aOPfU30c+oWreDgEGU58AF3lWxj2gt8fU/WdgA39kf4vrJ1AqF9EPvEm9eaK GhTPJqonHd7EKv5FdAOmFn3KQKprVa9U1/9X0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=OFXgBkPvj8k4ZXJWnwrfL3ReFiXPyb3AGJhBRP1dB6wahVT3aShVdd/Oq1+hWZH9lA 8D/Cy32hQwdlBNjcVYW4mu6FfVbz9Ouj/NgfgZ9d6KkQizJF4cH0M+C5fj2g9kWYl7js iWWPclAy+Kg0Qyc1LR0/D1bVJAaHpjTf5JAxk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:34:11 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906170834i241ca14q4d91cff7ded8d78e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: XY controller pedal. From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:34:12 +0000 (UTC) > I am friends with someone high up at Zoom and have been telling them this already... Teddy, could you ask this friend what that is supposed to mean: "Ultra low noise design with 120 dB S/N ratio and -100 dB noise floor" (from the product page at http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/g92tt/index.php) That means the noise is at -100dB, and the signal with a SNR of 120 is at 20dB. 20dB compared to what? Or should that say -100dBu, so 0dBFS is at 20dBu? Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 15:35:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8D303BE79; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:35:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: From: Teddy Kumpel To: looper's delight list In-reply-to: <7334ca1b0906170834i241ca14q4d91cff7ded8d78e@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Subject: Re: XY controller pedal. Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:35:46 +0200 References: <7334ca1b0906170834i241ca14q4d91cff7ded8d78e@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:35:56 +0000 (UTC) I could ask him that but he won't have an answer. Why not just ask zooms tech support yourself? Teddy Kumpel http://teddyjam.com On Jun 17, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >> I am friends with someone high up at Zoom and have been telling >> them this already... > > Teddy, > > could you ask this friend what that is supposed to mean: > "Ultra low noise design with 120 dB S/N ratio and -100 dB noise floor" > (from the product page at > http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/g92tt/index.php) > > That means the noise is at -100dB, and the signal with a SNR of 120 is > at 20dB. 20dB compared to what? Or should that say -100dBu, so 0dBFS > is at 20dBu? > > Rainer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 16:50:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB6A33BE73; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:50:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1fCtwdth/Ci+Pv6Tnv+Ac03ggklsmzhk3w43W+xitIo=; b=M139LSs0/BCwwy1UxUtsOCrBTI5aiyWXIOPkJ0ndiH4yBo5HZeRmEM1raHojsGVlLk DmSc9chonUOORGauJvolKXqocl9ubgokZS91Z9lTn6uGG9f2utxvPe6uygxaQiTiDRth Jnjg36I0+Xj6vSmxqsLPvo1tgpUkMXxdv+kpg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=mDHEUNm5iuHKj8U577ci2xJWbxNo8s/x5W133t2DbNNHhEUhfdSJAkp09CI5KCzJej P7IwOKB5OjRlY3X6enC04+a5+9NOVWWqh7H9c+en6AcWCt1tnxOCelqXP2wHnIbeEwlz M0bLmxCPm7NAdotQ1P++Ke8+c0Q1crXI1QeI0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:49:53 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906170949i416503efke3e634779ca1dfd5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: XY controller pedal. - and audio specs From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:50:03 +0000 (UTC) >> could you ask this friend what that is supposed to mean: >> "Ultra low noise design with 120 dB S/N ratio and -100 dB noise floor" > I could ask him that but he won't have an answer. Why not just ask zooms tech support yourself? Thanks, Teddy, and sorry for writing my original email in jest. I actually wanted to mock Zoom for putting specs on their page which say as much as "it goes to eleven". (and the following message is in no way meant as any form of critizism towards you, just to make sure this is understood). (Science lecture following): This is actually a rather fitting comparison. "dB" is not an actual measurement unit, rather, it's the logarithm of the comparison of two values, something like 20 log x/xref (with "x" being the thing we're talking about and "xref" being the reference it's compared to). So, just as in the Spinal Tap reference, a statement like "-100dB" doesn't say anything at all, because we don't know how big our xref is. It's different in the signal to noise ratio, simply because here "signal" is x and "noise" is xref. (babbling ends here). There has been a tendency among a great deal of manufacturers (and that's nothing new, this has been part of the home audio scene long before we all had computers) to just invent some fantasy values and use them for marketing. So even with the 120dB SNR thing, what about: * weighting curve applied (applying the typical "A" curve usually gives you 'round 3dB for that kind of device), or none applied. * sample rate and bit depth selected (if not implicitly clear from the context). * frequency ranged considered for the measurements . For comparison, let's look at the Konnekt24D specs (that device I had been bitching about earlier): "SNR: >111 dB (A), >108 dB, 20 Hz to 20 kHz" Now that's more like it. But I digress...the message should be that: With today's gear, SNR is not an issue for all the guitarist-oriented gear I know, as even the rating of the poor devices is one order of magnitude higher than that of a guitar. But if you absolutely need to consider them (for whatever reason), make sure you compare figures which talk about the same thing. Best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 17:11:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B00A33BE70; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:11:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006201c9ef6e$999c5410$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <14389e070906162011u5c9d8e10i97bd5087ce64007@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Article on Steve Moyes Live Looping Gig Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:11:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005F_01C9EF76.FB336A80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:11:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C9EF76.FB336A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks you so much James for taking the time to write about my little = Ustream adventures. Thanks to Matt and Michael too for for your kind = words of encouragement. I hope between us we can encourage more = musicians from here on LD and elswhere to take advantage of the = wonderful opportunities presented by these live streaming intenet sites. I should also say once again how much I've enjoyed the recent live = streaming gigs by Matt, Jim, James, Rainer and others. So much amazing = music. I feel so fortunate to be a small part of this worldwide = community of creative musicians and everyone here at Loopers Delight and = over on NetNewMusic is a constant source of inspiration to me. Thanks again James and everyone and keep the great music coming. Steve www.stevemoyes.org.uk www.creativemusic.org.uk www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:11 AM Subject: Article on Steve Moyes Live Looping Gig Amaranth Arthouse Music blog article on Steve's gig from 6-14-09. =20 http://jccombs.com/2009/06/17/ustream-fantasia-by-steve-moyes/ --=20 James Combs ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C9EF76.FB336A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks you so much James for taking the time to write about my = little=20 Ustream adventures. Thanks to Matt and Michael too for for your = kind words=20 of encouragement. I hope between us we can encourage more musicians from = here on=20 LD and elswhere to take advantage of the wonderful opportunities = presented by=20 these live streaming intenet sites.

I should also say once again how much I've enjoyed the recent live=20 streaming gigs by Matt, Jim, James, Rainer and others. So much amazing = music. I=20 feel so fortunate to be a small part of this worldwide community of = creative=20 musicians and everyone here at Loopers Delight and over on NetNewMusic = is a=20 constant source of inspiration to me.

Thanks again James and everyone and keep the great music = coming.

Steve

www.stevemoyes.org.uk
www.creativemusic.org.uk
www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes

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------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C9EF76.FB336A80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 17:27:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B42433BE78; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OyeLUX+RkUFcOGYroJiGchpwoGvxdkwU7LU+uPfYdKA=; b=my99V3eH53p7lMl9Kv4LTaflvIJGvuYzT6apfo7juoTc5lSOwKtU5ZYTkjyJaKykTP gWMZS2xMeq39P1uT0S63CDWbJ07xCvQsuQcSq/Ne5kz7eP3f1LVqxyCS73A4qLzqYAOI ClW0NAM+2Op40wz/MqOh4H8SgKhBrlKodg/to= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=QQdzZrKmnU2ZpQ8wDZdka/0gZwhYmBE4V49THK/PmjWGPIJAGVSihKlDCwE0nh4hqE IJ0g2g2KmtfdE1KW7kBWmMmbDb0BOCeq1RPkDSGI+LOVbFpGBs89wVI8B+fqW0+f3vZt 41aMU6H5QkqKgOCSnSvzbU+mXuDjR933WNWIo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <006201c9ef6e$999c5410$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> References: <14389e070906162011u5c9d8e10i97bd5087ce64007@mail.gmail.com> <006201c9ef6e$999c5410$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:27:15 -0700 Message-ID: <14389e070906171027t7b48b3e8l74bbf35eddd67c4d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Article on Steve Moyes Live Looping Gig From: James To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd328a6386b00046c8e9a0b Resent-Message-ID: <4-7tMD.A.52H.0dSOKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:27:16 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd328a6386b00046c8e9a0b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No problem, Steve. Keep the great gigs coming and happy birthday~! On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Steve Moyes wrote: > Thanks you so much James for taking the time to write about my little > Ustream adventures. Thanks to Matt and Michael too for for your kind words > of encouragement. I hope between us we can encourage more musicians from > here on LD and elswhere to take advantage of the wonderful opportunities > presented by these live streaming intenet sites. > > I should also say once again how much I've enjoyed the recent live > streaming gigs by Matt, Jim, James, Rainer and others. So much amazing > music. I feel so fortunate to be a small part of this worldwide community of > creative musicians and everyone here at Loopers Delight and over on > NetNewMusic is a constant source of inspiration to me. > > Thanks again James and everyone and keep the great music coming. > > Steve > > > www.stevemoyes.org.uk > www.creativemusic.org.uk > www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* James > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:11 AM > *Subject:* Article on Steve Moyes Live Looping Gig > > Amaranth Arthouse Music blog article on Steve's gig from 6-14-09. > http://jccombs.com/2009/06/17/ustream-fantasia-by-steve-moyes/ > > -- > James Combs > > -- James --000e0cd328a6386b00046c8e9a0b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No problem, Steve.=A0 Keep the great gigs coming and happy birthday~!
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Steve Moyes = <step= henmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

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I should also say once again how much I've enjoyed the recent live= =20 streaming gigs by Matt, Jim, James, Rainer and others. So much amazing musi= c. I=20 feel so fortunate to be a small part of this worldwide community of creativ= e=20 musicians and everyone here at Loopers Delight and over on NetNewMusic is a= =20 constant source of inspiration to me.

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Thanks again James and everyone and keep the great music coming.

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Steve

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www.stevemoyes.org.uk
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Amaranth Arthouse Music blog article on=20 Steve's gig from 6-14-09.=A0
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--000e0cd328a6386b00046c8e9a0b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 17:41:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88B803BE80; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:41:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rf8J6tvF3YBeqeLzrzE4RJQ4aK0rVG88GU0B4oR9o1k=; b=kMCD06tVKtoPmtq2NwxzYY617hoWwgfh7mdUrRmHfmdKikFnj5IcbKkLjTnpV5VpCd 2MZGcScyVC1i7IoJ52/DVIs9uSZYIH1LqEAN643t7J0prmvjWDYoK/sM0vPsoKcgAuK8 pI+GsuCks3dDWx9O1OYNutcXMm/E0yjLy4lpM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RTGXk+plbL2lNGA7PgiQAwt8H9tXC7DOxOLlzfohDYYuSIOeEg5uOXRP3zlEj4wPYG PIimb6lYzwzHLnvZR5XbTLekleyfPHgdgDOPBU3xqzRmZuqNHFpWeEVsEJd1NhFFICut nH/cd4CYD4xyfIcbhw5WMzm4YvQnxezMz4YwQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0906170949i416503efke3e634779ca1dfd5@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0906170949i416503efke3e634779ca1dfd5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:41:44 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: XY controller pedal. - and audio specs From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:41:45 +0000 (UTC) Right, when we all know that zero is the loudest. ;) On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > just as in the Spinal Tap reference, a statement like "-100dB" doesn't > say anything at all, From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 18:44:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D76113BE72; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pZlBzZ4Z6tkRXFQ4ovcDvHuulb1ZKoGFaWa1+z57Dxo=; b=BZHju+SqdmoiWVw7y0UZTP4zK01t97IbVaIFBq6LXeMWJoAyO1LxfBzzjx1nZqn4eH TA5YZplkhvpF/+txaVKpyulPPh9eCv6ORV8nRmx5io0BBrNDKI/ISK/oFwQxg/FLrKyi iIxcwt5LiTtUcDq4RouTHAauWH4QoyQCLqKlo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=d+NAzCLOI9etwzCl57KiC3AtxiHjbJv0yYJZUOGmld+QCztH9CtcACQrU5CunZn5uF MwjU+xw2XI8HtLklqicVtELMpcIxAk4tL3xqJOGG7Q94Eomjxy7Hq8SXzL1Jz/Fj4QFr ZBCok/OGOR2vlUBcD13Fo2vr5GsNL0qpCLE40= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:44:54 -0400 Message-ID: <2871c3a90906171144u18185356x8271bc59c8878493@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: FS - DD-20 and SP-555 From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:44:54 +0000 (UTC) I have for sale a DD-20, almost new, in box with manual and boss power supply ($180 plus shipping) and a SP-555 with manual, very light studio use and no wear ($450 plus shipping). Please email me off list if you're intested. Sylvain From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 19:59:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1F5A3BE89; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:59:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=h21svY8A1sHgJMmrR/eLY72FawvJBjo2lv6CpiOAA78=; b=SzSXffDxxC8fnSsBoC0TGUzsV5/MUsZYR8KYczkz9FUo6Y6+PQ0xNgls3IJxtRUCD+ +iTddR5OEmGIgd5GWjuyJtbju57bPu0/Iq47h8oLkeCAv0icEGs68FSkGz5hnirHk1CS 1stOhTRdsa1sVjc3djDiOWY308pk90zAj+aTY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=w0ChNduu3HLXiotIg/M6H63ikC4AsKJP7HaTqvUupWCQOidefe6YKTrxjFz0/xuDH3 ZWImAE3+p+GmTZ3BrBtNiTLE4SYfOlQcviA+Ym76O/OATFZuLvDJcU0zqMlWLr9BMk26 j+8bRRJ3c0H4tAs/SCWN1Ehdd35HXs7btgilY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <48C37AEF84E24406A0718DFE141B3707@eluk1> References: <48C37AEF84E24406A0718DFE141B3707@eluk1> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:59:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Windows 7 From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:59:48 +0000 (UTC) I'm actually on day 3 of Vista and I'm close to trashing everything and trying out 7. I have not had a single installation go without a hitch or issue of some kind. It's like some kind of perverse nightmare where Vista is an OS designed to only run itself. Frankly, if I could find a copy of XP I'd be so happy. I have a few fixes I've found on the web that I'll try tonight, but if I can't get Live, Mobius and Amplitube up and running tonight I may just return this computer and go back to my very friendly G5. Oh, btw: Macs are better. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Since the Win7 RC will run until June 1 2010 it's a fair bet that this will > be investigated further..! > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:41 PM > Subject: Re: Windows 7 > > > Over yonder on kvraudio.com a fair number of people seem to have moved > to Windows 7for audio pretty seamlessly. I briefly considered it but > after finding MOTU's 64bit drivers working well with Vista I decided > to play it safe and wait for the release. > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Stephen > Goodman wrote: >> >> Given the recent query about Vista I must pop up to ask whether anyone >> else >> is testing the RC for Windows 7? >> >> I've been running it as a server-type process for media files here at home >> and it's quite seamless from setup to operation. After seeing it running >> just fine in 64bit server mode for several months - and the RC is much >> less >> tweak-requiring - I've wondered about putting it on a machine designed for >> recording-editing music. Heh, will Cool Edit Pro 2.0 survive this >> transition? >> >> Stephen Goodman >> * >> http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman >> http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 21:09:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00F4D3BE75; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 439 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:09:26 UTC X-UOL-TAGLINE: true X-UNTD-OriginStamp: 9EhR0pLz6z7HAVtWp9vSBxF3zUV8PKuCWFEBsstp3as= X-Originating-IP: [216.77.238.41] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "qrd@juno.com" Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:00:43 GMT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Father's Day Interview Series for QRD X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Message-Id: <20090617.170043.6591.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-ContentStamp: 2:1:2106127519 X-MAIL-INFO:015a33075a37bb0737f79f77f7beee433e4b2a432fbf0a23fb4303031f02de8f83ba4acfefa7 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.181.12.150|webmail10.vgs.untd.com|outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com|qrd@juno.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Hey Starz, The newest issue of QRD interviews about a dozen musician dad's about ba= lancing family & art. 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Hope you dig it. http://www.silbermedia.com/qrd hrt Brian John Mitchell ____________________________________________________________ Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsEGrGM52sQVzAZ24VD5J6s= eWkm5U6FMGSRgp31dWER8FpgU5CIWUQ/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 21:12:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 251913BE75; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:12:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=06/SFYEFVpAbk8cD6k87Ail3k5o2utMmsu7IzdNrois=; b=fMEp4gAMNov3UWeqPFvUNinx3pyjsHB7iOcugV9May81vmGvCZRU2tksVZuflplMpr tl87BU+PximRM9MAPD5yckucBEhDrT7OfJ0t0rzKFaFJssaXYs7PHvnpGHVgS9X5/M8P kfjg0pJ8/DivmXBPJ5n3/gia0DBUUSjSqh3oU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=C4QyrTQ8GB6vRH0qUycEOeofuYzxyGX/zTQKgDCD+zMFtP9DfxK4aNuR4LCXEwE+uS QvgEBlm9UiQiAYwrNQkAQ+te+PYNCPvsgfVFDZPVDJkWUV1Ow5rFhldJLYPNyr4R6mD3 YfXjG8InDe4hdOn4bw1FvdmcW1v63JeGeL6N4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:04:36 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: venues in boston// july 3rd??? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:12:18 +0000 (UTC) Check out Mark Francombe's document of "looping venues" http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D525 (Follow the green link on this page.) I found this very useful in booking my own east coast tour. Boston gives me the feeling that they need a lot more notice to book. I started setting up my show there back in March. Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com (now updated with tour dates!) On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:08 AM, topu lyo wrote: > Hello loopers > > i am a nyc looper and am trying to just fill in one date in my small east > coast tour. > if anyone has any leads to a venue / contact on july 3rd in boston we wou= ld > much > appreciate any info. > > the band name is > > livefootagebrooklyn.com > myspace.com/livefootagebrooklyn > > it is cello and drum electronic duo :: =A0drum n' bass / classical / ambi= ent > > hope all is well in the world of looping!!! > > topu > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 21:18:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D33723BE71; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HINEiBE7BjfoAM7weNqgdvuP5VAcG6ylomN2TZbFCw8=; b=QBcXBKfdWTX5MTrqke1pNLukfH+kAZCC1SOZFf+jMO5vt9hBpprvysA8W/hIsekVBH +Cm5Qj/ie69dfUDMhwmJtPZahL06j+qjWhikJPsSDNUxytYb11EGpYNnglDHnO88Ho3r b/iYKLhP79l3VZ1nzti3HcRRDR7qKwrii8liU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wEMEKvCmWltMHgoZeutrxyUFP6Y1yrQFM+Kce/L4decbVLOwv5XLk9qUBnF96vb+CI aUMI0CFbuX5XMzUiudowCzBkEU8wO5Rd+UXb9XB8Hp++2f4Tx+aES7qGaXMMsGLSwd06 cj5zC2W5MioLDCzmOe82wtXVbh5ImDqXH6yr0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7A009E2156B040B9A2F408FE04EBA8A8@pcfabio> References: <7A009E2156B040B9A2F408FE04EBA8A8@pcfabio> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:17:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_iifiC.A.zIG.I2VOKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:18:00 +0000 (UTC) thanks fabio. nice short reading. although nothing new under the sun here. 2009/6/17, eterogeneo : > http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=10784 > > > Fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > www.myspace.com/eterogeneo > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 21:30:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5D083BE75; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1HdGgaEXQy2ulK7d7Fwbovf5pyQNn3f85lm5KuHsVRs=; b=eIYnVxsh1km56RHZp+ZPfY9+KMe6IVEAjW+uyGMTy6i1nUGd4PadsOyCusafU1Kspn qAcTWs1ZSWLuvrrUoEtOfdgooVM0k9GRRmbDd84f4NwiuV5Uu48Aw2bfMg9vx+WP/2Wt tMR3R3hiPOfRWOFQ+FmKmNRvvNawB5ylC+NT0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MOP/SSbiiJ25O0fvbFr8jRRkzPgdGO1nI1QH9yIZF/OuNYjFHlZFn4TxuLonmmpeZY G7x6zCyDdJ1dsIULyBMLp5b6hfM/kFE9ErShLzu4URIhsRAboKF2+hY95RVmZg8rLVPY PYvtm8W8MjRG0H6lRraKSOENg2hQokOefXuAA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7A009E2156B040B9A2F408FE04EBA8A8@pcfabio> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:30:00 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:30:00 +0000 (UTC) I'd go one step further than Dr. Eno and say that people don't even go to a show for the music or performance, but more often for the chance to be with a group of like-minded people. (and to drink beer and convince a member of the opposite sex to have sex with you) The music is an excuse. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > thanks fabio. nice short reading. although nothing new under the sun here. > > 2009/6/17, eterogeneo : >> http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=10784 >> >> >> Fabio >> www.eterogeneo.com >> www.myspace.com/eterogeneo >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 21:34:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C5D03BE79; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cXQwRgxZ8jO5DnM6oj+5QqFVUr/Aj1FApsZ7/5KUqf8=; b=oaaHK/QzW0kyGfP0EEaXBBOoLlHmA86Qe6F/n7w+xTrgqAPs+TceVzIy6vtfW0zxB7 xBdPFhwVaMoZT3DscXWxKYLYZu0sUiGHRzpxMIooToJuZySLML28f4s0IlXsR+U3ZV5m 9jTjpIz8ozDnTlRtYCsVXT/DobWCPqbI3M0zs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=aGfVxXdwMBv+ySaElmn5MY8wP+23FT7fCIpb9DcIO7qVx3Fb/E8QMGvJvnOl7K9jdi p8GRNBk47cXh1BMqyRHcpZVDbYmeNvyU2LaoktZbg/EcmTI1JKEzcpSZcR+p3nZgrSOo z+8ImyDRrGJ5ewRd2QGUTbI/rZ0o8nG6rAPTM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:34:29 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906171434i558a9ccfq9cb13341142cc937@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Mark said: "...people don't even go to a show for the music or performance, but more often for the chance to be with a group of like-minded people. (and to drink beer and convince a member of the opposite sex to have sex with you) The music is an excuse." Now, don't be so narrow-minded, Mark, and rather do embrace the fact that people take your shows as an excuse to possible convince a member of the same sex to have sex with them (or you, whatever may be the case ;). Best, Rainer From maggiclark6@gmail.com Wed Jun 17 21:39:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 788 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:39:36 UTC Received: from mail-ew0-f178.google.com (mail-ew0-f178.google.com [209.85.219.178]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF1F3BE70 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:39:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy26 with SMTP id 26so148912ewy.6 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:39:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gbPqaqzgnEdaFjA/QA+cfJKK7+vqpMYAszjsRIPViMc=; b=TKtFyVFXyiToPucTiZNIASecpKhqkstkdoG4JaZkzt3N9Hwe5BEr9HILuHlNqe/kZq hgX3+IfQjTMHfJXkdQLtlE0V0WHVwMOCHsv/h6vTLopwgWVtJgHDbtPCl1V6QpxtEkkr w3/ki0F6VQo1k/uqjStiyCvo9Pn5bh9hZX0TI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=qMhpE1vNwWw+1oN0V0x4ITwAFv5TErGZZmgiwxdPjtfO8UybBUtUX45mJBGqT8+u/r JDGxVBDpLG5PNheJ8vFtR2T/paBJU9qY3+PpiHwrPuoHxCgzp4leBd3sgxu05UElWpUP ULM+bfqpcASSSLc0rf1QanqdqBTeU6mME6XWM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.29.9 with SMTP id c9mt2494041ebc.17.1245273965861; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:26:05 -0700 Message-ID: <556e8c2b0906171426l4aed0865v14755eafffda25f2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: From Adamu Yazid From: maggi clark Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: undisclosed-recipients:; Attn sir, I am Barrister Adamu Yazid, my late client MR. 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Thanks Barrister Adamu Yazid Email: adamuyazid3@indiatimes.com Email: maggi1@sibmail.com direct line +4470-111-47758 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 22:41:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F2543BE78; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:41:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:34:46 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Aaron Leese Subject: glitch sequencer In-Reply-To: <2CF0278F14A54AF2BDDBE2B701728E73@eluk1> References: <20090615201903.37DD13BE71@arsenic.violacea.com> <2CF0278F14A54AF2BDDBE2B701728E73@eluk1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator748.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - flyloops.com Message-Id: <20090617224134.A488E3BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:41:35 +0000 (UTC) A promising midi sequencer, looks like psuedo random based on a seed .... kinda fun. Since it loops and could be integrated with looping technology out there, I think it relevant ... http://www.glitch-sequencer.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 22:50:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 706F33BE7C; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=938lvfhrQaSFGPkzVCutjf/5/FMT7fhTxwO6m98ZPF8=; b=R5hMsaoaaYWOEC+8DMa+H63+O6osSNy/S2aSCVuOuFO2mVA2BVg8BJ9aZS7XiTyeZ/ 15p3xAAxMTMDfASt4Sc1YHqlKlFwvH+IweEDJ75Jw25+hkzRvSRE6uGK4WmSO8URkCwp ivVrWdydKyQqgt8w5tPOEViDM2RSWxWX7Y014= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=XMdyUxpDQchK1WU8xnys4C/+3QNOmD9QUZPMdK5zOK0Ky/Txy7avjPjlxf4TDpyt8f Tfr45XM2VXKe6dxjbvCiUgp33/j6th46CIgpxlL/etumoKUf9RUEH1oLqxS1V6Nf5lVI JA0vW47xVn9pPw3dYqy1ktzWZeGNDLLOCgs5A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <48C37AEF84E24406A0718DFE141B3707@eluk1> From: Nick Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:44:30 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 52d8aac03eb880bf Message-ID: Subject: Re: Windows 7 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5oOLs.A.u5.-MXOKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Mark, I strongly recommend you trash vista and try 7. 7 is miles ahead in every w= ay. os x is still the best though imo. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Mark Sottilaro wr= ote: > I'm actually on day 3 of Vista and I'm close to trashing everything > and trying out 7. =A0I have not had a single installation go without a > hitch or issue of some kind. =A0It's like some kind of perverse > nightmare where Vista is an OS designed to only run itself. Frankly, > if I could find a copy of XP I'd be so happy. =A0 I have a few fixes > I've found on the web that I'll try tonight, but if I can't get Live, > Mobius and Amplitube up and running tonight I may just return this > computer and go back to my very friendly G5. > > Oh, btw: Macs are better. > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Stephen > Goodman wrote: >> Since the Win7 RC will run until June 1 2010 it's a fair bet that this w= ill >> be investigated further..! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:41 PM >> Subject: Re: Windows 7 >> >> >> Over yonder on kvraudio.com a fair number of people seem to have moved >> to Windows 7for audio pretty seamlessly. I briefly considered it but >> after finding MOTU's 64bit drivers working well with Vista I decided >> to play it safe and wait for the release. >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Stephen >> Goodman wrote: >>> >>> Given the recent query about Vista I must pop up to ask whether anyone >>> else >>> is testing the RC for Windows 7? >>> >>> I've been running it as a server-type process for media files here at h= ome >>> and it's quite seamless from setup to operation. After seeing it runnin= g >>> just fine in 64bit server mode for several months - and the RC is much >>> less >>> tweak-requiring - I've wondered about putting it on a machine designed = for >>> recording-editing music. Heh, will Cool Edit Pro 2.0 survive this >>> transition? >>> >>> Stephen Goodman >>> * >>> http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman >>> http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman >>> >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 22:51:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF4BF3BE7C; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 84618 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:51:14 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gDw6f0qVM9MVr9oemiCJJO1RGTwL0jyKYqRBKgipv2Q=; b=R8DSZ0RbbrgDx+6rOZ11RM3u+eJCeadSqEbvfE7ohtczFE3Xte9QuPpB+mTHhciCeo Ea2c9FJOquracACi3aN/CNfi8jK9o8tdewGw5F3OXc72fwQOcezHrykNUeC+LtPfyeH6 1dR5jObAuFa7jpzRxEAQv+MLEnLEiLOhSakK4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jlj9t36VuVIX2IFu9zAjmbMTOCqV3UWgT4CbLAUD4D/if9BjEmzhjZFAiOlLAirP7I my2P/WPUTWiB/FAimTBMCWnlZyAQ5tV6dEqGfVue7uLVlBJL4uaqPCpyxhtcohRnxQl2 3HW1FrKAf41SC3PXF0K8GV9FmZzFU5N4ee5gI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0906171434i558a9ccfq9cb13341142cc937@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0906171434i558a9ccfq9cb13341142cc937@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:50:48 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:51:16 +0000 (UTC) It's not narrow minded as an observation of the audiences at every single loopfest I've ever gone to. The audience are the performers. There are a narrow slice of people who do go to shows for the music, but we're a sadly small minority. Now tickets to concerts and drinking at clubs, Sometimes for music that you haven't even heard of. And how much did you pay for your rock'n'roll t-shirt That proves you were there, That you heard of them first? -Cake and while I'm quoting Cake, the last time I saw them they were very hard to see (bad tickets, we were far away) and the sound was fair at best (shitty compared to what I'm used to hearing from my modest home stereo). Why did we go? It was way more about a date with my wife than it was the show itself even though my wife and I are both big fans. (p.s. we didn't buy a teeshirt) On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Mark said: > "...people don't even go to a show for the music or performance, but > more often for the chance to be with a group of like-minded people. > (and to drink beer and convince a member of the opposite sex to have > sex with you) =A0The music is an excuse." > > Now, don't be so narrow-minded, Mark, and rather do embrace the fact > that people take your shows as an excuse to possible convince a member > of the same sex to have sex with them (or you, whatever may be the > case ;). > > Best, > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 23:05:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8B153BE72; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OarC+vPdkUB82KHAcCCXzFTSZoe0UWSsUKHS24I1lnU=; b=o+W1RN88WFhGamBqNiarxNcV9ufd12Uk3g82SWpONBa+G1gBDlndCpQApHc/o7clYc j/rH0z0+e0irgjYv+AeApcnp/xgps5h9YALrk1ueNyKte6HvEa8V0tFtoSrFHfAA69tt h6ye9im4btGvVBl3AxqMnj4ec2UZQ6PplKSRk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gjNnu+6IXQvftkYyUNg7UbVuQ8UguDdKilNgsLdO9F/8ki3GAY3Yra6uuXNKZ/xpla jWmOkRiy9lBRxx1yyI0C3/t9SsenATmfEAtL1K488lXPUTue1etosd6KpobcAlvOzueQ DQpwDhlvSVtIRL1vsfRnegHht/+ywmzHeALvY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090617224134.A488E3BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090615201903.37DD13BE71@arsenic.violacea.com> <2CF0278F14A54AF2BDDBE2B701728E73@eluk1> <20090617224134.A488E3BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:05:15 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: glitch sequencer From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:05:18 +0000 (UTC) nice! also java needed for the windows xp users ... can be downloaded for free at http://www.java.com 2009/6/18, Aaron Leese : > > > A promising midi sequencer, looks like psuedo random based on a seed > .... kinda fun. Since it loops and could be integrated with looping > technology out there, I think it relevant ... > > http://www.glitch-sequencer.com/ > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 23:08:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD0F03BE81; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JoF4W4T5f97NGRPXmHMT2+SHhiozN77kcg8XWMcKdNA=; b=V+Fl/NiYxl8f8jSnpiW0aD/CGvlwhZo6WEVd6OM50T2ko+D9PBIqtHRkIFNRypnc7J bdEKNRbK79NqnuSFkruVAjFdbDciMsw2rdsElf420o3tOeP+nirkywuo8KZjVEmUsBDq 2yuRSpA+tarQN15GxUJ5BxsXA9LsGWIQTt90s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=u4KwbPYY3aRlVPQgP6gxDM44CBukCT9Dpl33hBvn7tkkSGXiqkrqS+V7aSDF75fAdf 1FGg/HEI526F4uB5SKkZZl16OhBF3/nlbc3uhV7x1tundWR82kg4S8DwNAYMHqWsn0ku rSNCuyUXWylOLW9bRX0Sa6bAPft31j8sRf/r8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <48C37AEF84E24406A0718DFE141B3707@eluk1> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:08:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Windows 7 From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:08:52 +0000 (UTC) If I could find one person who said, "Yeah, I'm running Windows 7 and a MOTU 828 with Live 8 and it works great" I think I would, but I can't seem to find that person. I guess I'm wondering if I want to be that test subject and take on all the work that it might mean. "Hey Live tech support person, I can't get your software working right... OS? Er... WIndows 7 beta... Uh. Yeah." Can you see how that could go? That said, I've spent quite a few hours and I basically have Live and the MOTU drivers installed. Awesome. Live doesn't seem to see any flavor of Amplitube or Mobius. I've been told many times that Vista was a giant pile of flaming poop, and so far it's lived up to it's reputation. I think I'll give it one more chance before I go ballistic. I've read a few things about disabling UAC and moving your VST folder outside the programs folder. If I don't get it tonight, I'll give Win 7a go. It's funny, my first inclination when Jeff ported Mobius to OSX was to move back to my G5 for music, but since my time in XPlandia I've made a few other friends. One of them is called mDrummer. Another Jamstix. Cool little VSTs that replicate how someone who's not a drummer might communicate with a session drummer. You can seed them with a basic beat and they listen to you and react in real time. There's nothing remotely like it (that I know of) for OSX. I could go back to crafting each beat myself, but I get limited time and I was really loving the short amount of time I could go from nothing to a full looped "piece" by using an AI helper for drums. I do like programming drums, but I like playing guitar and keyboard (if you can call my keyboard playing that!) a lot more. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Nick wrote: > Mark, > > I strongly recommend you trash vista and try 7. 7 is miles ahead in every= way. > > os x is still the best though imo. > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Mark Sottilaro = wrote: >> I'm actually on day 3 of Vista and I'm close to trashing everything >> and trying out 7. =A0I have not had a single installation go without a >> hitch or issue of some kind. =A0It's like some kind of perverse >> nightmare where Vista is an OS designed to only run itself. Frankly, >> if I could find a copy of XP I'd be so happy. =A0 I have a few fixes >> I've found on the web that I'll try tonight, but if I can't get Live, >> Mobius and Amplitube up and running tonight I may just return this >> computer and go back to my very friendly G5. >> >> Oh, btw: Macs are better. >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Stephen >> Goodman wrote: >>> Since the Win7 RC will run until June 1 2010 it's a fair bet that this = will >>> be investigated further..! >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:41 PM >>> Subject: Re: Windows 7 >>> >>> >>> Over yonder on kvraudio.com a fair number of people seem to have moved >>> to Windows 7for audio pretty seamlessly. I briefly considered it but >>> after finding MOTU's 64bit drivers working well with Vista I decided >>> to play it safe and wait for the release. >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Stephen >>> Goodman wrote: >>>> >>>> Given the recent query about Vista I must pop up to ask whether anyone >>>> else >>>> is testing the RC for Windows 7? >>>> >>>> I've been running it as a server-type process for media files here at = home >>>> and it's quite seamless from setup to operation. After seeing it runni= ng >>>> just fine in 64bit server mode for several months - and the RC is much >>>> less >>>> tweak-requiring - I've wondered about putting it on a machine designed= for >>>> recording-editing music. Heh, will Cool Edit Pro 2.0 survive this >>>> transition? >>>> >>>> Stephen Goodman >>>> * >>>> http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman >>>> http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 23:21:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7326C3BE95; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:21:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WzQeuUBBQLe116iQjcfzcUbNxfXlMjmr6KMjMyGq++M=; b=SnC5/3vRFIS1fanSrq8GsQ3ZSO9TElTFg0vVSPCR18kw8OoA6qkBWiKgZU6DI+SoE2 JgNPkVhs4N04dI5avH1dk8hCxXh2svta65ihZBfFMYL8ZC1oC/lGw9ywMBlyFAGDjteR pd0gsS30Z2tp9zVkwEXN9l/KYb6q0GR1QB0D8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qZg7hGIukABscul56R1ha8Clv3SR1fRn257JT62Rmv7w1lWXpaZM5LBSjeONeg/Lmu f6inDMMo763sDtZ6s9q1LP0+pveiuKQslkGHhjUvW20a5S3Dt+FM8Fzs0+sHOYUvalBj Np4BUJLkI/xmNZz2kyJqxNofceN6T8AuVC5vY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20090615201903.37DD13BE71@arsenic.violacea.com> <2CF0278F14A54AF2BDDBE2B701728E73@eluk1> <20090617224134.A488E3BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:21:14 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: glitch sequencer From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:21:17 +0000 (UTC) Oh, and while I'm at it... http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/product.php?pid=3DAD020 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Mark Sottilaro wro= te: > There's a Reaktor .ens that's just like this called "nuskool" (I > think) Comes free with Reaktor 5. =A0It's drum machine based but it > doesn't seem like it would be hard to make it spit out MIDI to another > instrument. =A0Now if someone would make a Light Brite that transmits > OSC... ;) > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Raul Bonell wrote= : >> nice! also java needed for the windows xp users ... can be downloaded >> for free at http://www.java.com >> >> 2009/6/18, Aaron Leese : >>> >>> >>> A promising midi sequencer, looks like psuedo random based on a seed >>> .... kinda fun. =A0Since it loops and could be integrated with looping >>> technology out there, I think it relevant ... >>> >>> http://www.glitch-sequencer.com/ >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 17 23:24:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D33C3BE98; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:24:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rkN4yGeKLjvYaz0SsaRIdDurIYrhOHzMhsD6F03HYXQ=; b=oQLvMn7SE3M20bAAyLC6gSHT80acg2O8scyiza61NSFhfqBvyrst2EKBhUNIzeIOlZ i3+DZYTn5Pj1Y5mgndZg7rFh1b+WsnRxn6V7tzmfDGSNK+xOUXoSBo6FfTRKW77JO7ta lKs3XF1HbEm3Fuf7Pj/2QY0GQgK7781LqfkjE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PE2yOKhPArODW6ueFBtCEL4NTmivVpa/2N1FSSaSURDjxuEqDvu1p5yJI+NRCGif7G GTM+aZuT90whOG6XDrdvG/ymSdb1aFuAPcwHKeuFGvysxBvfAV5iNfW2Od2dA8YVNDmW pHvWU4hzrAdCUrkv30K7ZVX6UTtY74kLSDnSw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20090615201903.37DD13BE71@arsenic.violacea.com> <2CF0278F14A54AF2BDDBE2B701728E73@eluk1> <20090617224134.A488E3BE6F@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:16:47 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: glitch sequencer From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:24:07 +0000 (UTC) There's a Reaktor .ens that's just like this called "nuskool" (I think) Comes free with Reaktor 5. It's drum machine based but it doesn't seem like it would be hard to make it spit out MIDI to another instrument. Now if someone would make a Light Brite that transmits OSC... ;) On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > nice! also java needed for the windows xp users ... can be downloaded > for free at http://www.java.com > > 2009/6/18, Aaron Leese : >> >> >> A promising midi sequencer, looks like psuedo random based on a seed >> .... kinda fun. =A0Since it loops and could be integrated with looping >> technology out there, I think it relevant ... >> >> http://www.glitch-sequencer.com/ >> >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 02:01:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E51F63BE78; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:01:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:01:23 -0500 Subject: RE: Windows 7 Thread-Topic: Windows 7 Thread-Index: AcnvoJaJh3WzicWYQoe5I+dFxRU52AAFvEK0 Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3D4DE69@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <48C37AEF84E24406A0718DFE141B3707@eluk1> , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ninja-pim: Scanned by Ninja x-ninja-attachmentfiltering: (no action) acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:01:26 +0000 (UTC) FWIW, I do all Windows development under Vista with a MOTU 828 and an Ultra= lite. I'm still on Live 5 though. I wouldn't expect Live 8 to have any troubles = with Vista since it was made at a time when Vista was more-or-less unavoidable. =20 It is however a good idea to throw away all your old driver CD's and go dow= nload the latest from the manufacturers web site. If I remember right Live has to be taught where the VST plugins live. Brin= g up the preferences dialog and select the Plug-Ins tab. In Live 5 there is a widget for "VST P= lug-in Custom Folder" the most common place for this is c:\Program Files\VstPlugins. Open a bottle of wine. You'll get through this :-) Jeff= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 03:00:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 687743BE75; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jK+nMIfIiv7NG7MANnb60zzeuDrEau0VU5b0ZLwDgAI=; b=sepUrro8XIOu6qa2oUiuP+DUNeatDbFGY9iTFA/GIq3dYJ+YlJJLvpd2Nn73Rziyvb gCo5kyooIgTKuF2o0Rhzib0KjaQ8wWfu58CZPc6wox3X/P5i8dr1mJnOHkcGWXbZEShp jh71phRzkU6qKPAWiiYntM1XE18LEMNv22FTs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pZ/pZDOB+WJBqTLr+No/jtr8x1yc6QvKBUDSJL0sEDWpcJ547uctvhESirnB7nVThc 8BcNqgvGS81pXxacj/XbGQuezxX8lhmFuV7ld7LJ2lHm40tUPNMEpb+OrxKHxnQ6mr14 ovEZOcK70oaWB75a9AyFSwnFUZh07dV/rDVaE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3D4DE69@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <48C37AEF84E24406A0718DFE141B3707@eluk1> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714ADC3D4DE69@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:00:00 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Windows 7 From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <224_b.A.EV.y2aOKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Jeff, I'm good with Live's set up and I'm on v8.0.3 which was released in Vista times but me thinks the problems are not with Live or MOTU, but are with the myriad of copy protection schemes that plug in makers use. I've got a bottle of wine standing by. Wish me luck... Mark On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Jeff Larson wro= te: > FWIW, I do all Windows development under Vista with a MOTU 828 and an Ult= ralite. > I'm still on Live 5 though. =A0I wouldn't expect Live 8 to have any troub= les with Vista since it > was made at a time when Vista was more-or-less unavoidable. > > It is however a good idea to throw away all your old driver CD's and go d= ownload the > latest from the manufacturers web site. > > If I remember right Live has to be taught where the VST plugins live. =A0= Bring up the preferences > dialog and select the Plug-Ins tab. =A0In Live 5 there is a widget for "V= ST Plug-in Custom Folder" > the most common place for this is c:\Program Files\VstPlugins. > > Open a bottle of wine. You'll get through this :-) > > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 03:59:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D35BE3BE73; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1245297540; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=vAoOz54AmPI2xooQyFjR5mJq7pA=; b=ehDkGZajFJBK0pVyAf4CAEoqvnw+y9HBrcLisQnxvJY68sunxT8pOYfvh8K4LHDc +jsWH/sUJlFkGdMJrsM/kDLD1WNSUy7c06VJ/HgEE51c7TLkZC+LZa6IgrHKM+vX; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=v2ERVaroXvQA:10 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=euIQdlOiAAAA:8 a=OnqUa9bqAAAA:8 a=JqEG_dyiAAAA:8 a=ZKX-aGZ2AAAA:8 a=S5W8UX2Q7aiagMuPwP0A:9 a=d0BBORlAWfo3sbjymroA:7 a=B0mJJhKPH1OAx5eb0YQSpkPuwBUA:4 a=j1JV5d43ytUA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=BV5EdPsTfRet6-NA:21 a=K72wIB_iNGXz3rea:21 a=a5Gf7U6LAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=bgfLul7Iykvl8qzSHZQA:9 a=4_6wWngikPWlcDaRqCQA:7 a=IljRzlFuincP96Qh9nVtSUfm_noA:4 a=FgSdGi13OAAA:10 a=yHIqe9kG5mgA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001001c9efc9$1c6c3bd0$a6554d43@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <14389e070906162011u5c9d8e10i97bd5087ce64007@mail.gmail.com> <006201c9ef6e$999c5410$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> Subject: Re: Article on Steve Moyes Live Looping Gig Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:58:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C9EFA7.9517C670" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <9STVDB.A.66B.EubOKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:59:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C9EFA7.9517C670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve, I didn't get to catch your show but the replay is wonderful. = Creative and very fun! It's what it's all about.=20 Thanks for the inspiration! Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Steve Moyes=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:11 PM Subject: Re: Article on Steve Moyes Live Looping Gig Thanks you so much James for taking the time to write about my little = Ustream adventures. Thanks to Matt and Michael too for for your kind = words of encouragement. I hope between us we can encourage more = musicians from here on LD and elswhere to take advantage of the = wonderful opportunities presented by these live streaming intenet sites. I should also say once again how much I've enjoyed the recent live = streaming gigs by Matt, Jim, James, Rainer and others. So much amazing = music. I feel so fortunate to be a small part of this worldwide = community of creative musicians and everyone here at Loopers Delight and = over on NetNewMusic is a constant source of inspiration to me. Thanks again James and everyone and keep the great music coming. Steve www.stevemoyes.org.uk www.creativemusic.org.uk www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:11 AM Subject: Article on Steve Moyes Live Looping Gig Amaranth Arthouse Music blog article on Steve's gig from 6-14-09. =20 http://jccombs.com/2009/06/17/ustream-fantasia-by-steve-moyes/ --=20 James Combs ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C9EFA7.9517C670 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Steve, I didn't get to catch your show = but the=20 replay is wonderful. Creative and very fun! It's what it's all about.=20

Thanks for the = inspiration!

Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Steve Moyes

To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20

Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 = 1:11=20 PM

Subject: Re: Article on Steve = Moyes Live=20 Looping Gig

Thanks you so much James for taking the time to write about my = little=20 Ustream adventures. Thanks to Matt and Michael too for for your = kind=20 words of encouragement. I hope between us we can encourage more = musicians from=20 here on LD and elswhere to take advantage of the wonderful = opportunities=20 presented by these live streaming intenet sites.

I should also say once again how much I've enjoyed the recent = live=20 streaming gigs by Matt, Jim, James, Rainer and others. So much amazing = music.=20 I feel so fortunate to be a small part of this worldwide community of = creative=20 musicians and everyone here at Loopers Delight and over on NetNewMusic = is a=20 constant source of inspiration to me.

Thanks again James and everyone and keep the great music = coming.

Steve

www.stevemoyes.org.uk
www.creativemusic.org.uk
www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, June 17, = 2009 4:11=20 AM

Subject: Article on Steve = Moyes Live=20 Looping Gig

Amaranth Arthouse Music blog = article on=20 Steve's gig from 6-14-09.
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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C9EFA7.9517C670-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 04:17:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A35623BE73; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:17:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1245298646; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Wq+dDGUDOrv+t3fyw+XCjjyN3bc=; b=U6RhEznsau6XToo0JH8LSYZWRcU+29b5qxkJ/rr3DALdaNur6ud/ARbvYIiEyZ0V qQdwMyZLP0oG9hjOlflKZJ0CMcrEENrK9rM4/nZ37VYIVxZteb9M0A2vwQN20k55; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=zImPrG2YAAAA:8 a=3OA-0-m0AAAA:20 a=WnzYjt4fAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=AuzSNog4x5mU3Fr-vvAA:9 a=C1rI3x1pFUYwpeClGF6lTaBlaOkA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001c01c9efcb$af89c110$a6554d43@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: Gig spam Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:17:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:17:26 +0000 (UTC) I am playing this Saturday on my justin.tv channel "Loopydroneyglitchywacky Presents" This Saturday at 12:00 noon east coast US time. Come on and join me if your in the neighborhood! The name says it all. http://www.justin.tv/loopslab For your local time reference check here: http://tinyurl.com/l4ykw4 Best, Jeff "Was that too melodic?" _ Sonny Sharrock http://jeffduke.org/ http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://www.justin.tv/loopslab From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 04:40:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7838E3BE73; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:40:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:43:24 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090617-0, 17/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:40:28 +0000 (UTC) >Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices >From: "Jeff Duke" >Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:48:09 -0400 Hi Jeff >>Do I get a decoder ring? >Only if you go the software route! :) Nuts. >>>I can tap in a loop that is pretty accurate for most uses. >>Oh. Are you saying it has tap tempo? > that depends on what you call tap tempo. The 2880 works like this: Tap = to=20 >start recording and tap to stop recording and begin playback. This is in= non=20 >quantize mode unsynced. This is the way i use it. this is what I call = tap=20 >tempo. It works just like the DL 4 in many ways in this mode. If you = need=20 >the manual I have a pdf. Okay. =20 The only definition for tap tempo I've known up to now, is the pedal or device has a button or foot switch that you tap at least twice, and the pedal works out the tempo from that. =20 Examples on my pedal board that use this definition in their manual are=20 Roger Linn's Adrenalinn 3, Line6 Space Chorus, Nova Delay & Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai. Your email has just helped me to understand a confusing discussion I had a while back. >As a slave in quantize it's the same thing only you press the drum = machine=20 >start after arming the 2880 to start recording then the 2880 button to = set=20 >the length of the loop and begin playback. I find it virtually = impossible to=20 >flub a loops timing while quantized in slave mode. That's much more promising. Thanks. >>the ability to store and retrieve loops - rather than a delay pedal = with a=20 >>looper, if you see what I mean. >I see what you mean but this is not my thing. I never play the same = thing=20 >twice and can't repeat anything I have ever done exactly. I have basic=20 >themes or variations that i come back to. Okay. >Maybe what you need is the software route. Hopefully some of the lappys = will=20 >chime in here. The 2880 will only save one loop on each card. It can = have up=20 >to 4 tracks and a mixdown, etc but this is erased when you press new = loop.=20 >Some of the "phrase sampler" type loopers can save multiple loops (Digi=20 >Jamman) but are not midi. >Best of luck on all you do, >Jeff Thanks again for your time and help. All the best, -- G. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 04:51:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 729D03BE77; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:55:24 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: octave shifter for winds To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090617-0, 17/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: octave shifter for winds =46rom: Sylvain Poitras Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:33:00 -0500 >Hi, >Anyone have any recommendation for a hardware octave shifter for wind >instruments? I was looking at the EHX POG2, anyone tried playing >something other than guitars through it? >Thanks! >Sylvain Hi Sylvain I've been playing chromatic and diatonic harmonica through my Micro POG for maybe 18 months now. I love it. The latency is fractional and opens up a world of effects the harp can sound good with. I've been told it generates the sub octave and octave up tones, rather than pitch shift the signal. Whatever it does, it's a smooth synth kind of tone for harmonica and when you've got all three dials up and add plenty of reverb, it sounds like a reed organ. :) I was going to save up and buy a second Micro POG, and really glad I didn't. I'll be closely watching reviews on the EH POG2, it has all the features that I was interested in the POG and HOG, but a fraction of the size, a better stronger enclosure, and similar price to the SMMH. The 8 preset feature is brilliant. I'm really hoping it's a keeper. Cheers, -- G. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 05:14:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D158A3BE75; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:17:39 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090617-0, 17/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <6S8JFB.A.pXE.f0cOKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: blech (pedal choices =46rom: marcus Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:18:14 -0500 >For a somewhat updated version of the dl4, check out the damage control >timeline. >I read that some of the guys who worked on the DL4 went to that company.= I >absolutely love mine for reverse, ping, multi, and a pretty decent = chorus >sound. It has a lot of options that my memory lane and replica don't. Before I bought a Nova Delay, I tried out both the BOSS DD-20 and Line6 DL4 side by side. The DL4's delays were really nice - but the problematic switches; and inability to dial something up without saving and bypass it put me right off. The Nova Delay is real pretty, however it doesn't go quite as far as the DL4 with distortion, wow-flutter, etc. Which was a disappointment. But it's definitely a great pedal. The Damage control timeline looks great, but if I buy another delay pedal, I need midi sync. Which with my tiny budget really limits me to either the Boss DD-20 or the Eventide TimeFactor. =20 I have some reservations about the TimeFactor and just waiting to see what updates Eventide provide to see if they can address them. Apart from the Boss RC-50, EH 2880, or Blackline Engineering=20 Riff Box, I'd like to know of any other good stereo looper pedals with midi sync & control, expandable non-volatile memory allowing for stereo loops measured in several or more minutes, USB access to samples, quantise, overdub, undo, etc, etc. =20 It doesn't seem to be a big ask with today's technology, and yet what's out there is pretty disappointing. Thanks -- G. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 07:29:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DA2F3BE78; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:29:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 217211790/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.138.250/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.138.250 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlwCAE6KOUpPRor6/2dsb2JhbAAI0h2ECAWIcA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,242,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="217211790" Message-ID: <4A39F004.7080008@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:43:00 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: octave shifter for winds References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1NV5ZC.A.y-F.hzeOKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:29:38 +0000 (UTC) G wrote: > > Hi Sylvain > I've been playing chromatic and diatonic harmonica through my Micro POG > for maybe 18 months now. I love it. The latency is fractional and > opens up a world of effects the harp can sound good with. > I've been told it generates the sub octave and octave up tones, rather > than pitch shift the signal. Whatever it does, it's a smooth synth kind > of tone for harmonica and when you've got all three dials up and add > plenty of reverb, it sounds like a reed organ. :) :-) that sounds like fun. I thought the Micro Pog actually had quite noticeable latency just on the pitch up octave. I also didn't like the out of tuneness of the high octave, which I guess is designed for "12 guitar string" sound. It's essentially a harmoniser type algorithm with smaller time slices than usual, and really good pitch tracking. > I was going to save up and buy a second Micro POG, and really glad I > didn't. I'll be closely watching reviews on the EH POG2, it has all the > features that I was interested in the POG and HOG, but a fraction of the > size, a better stronger enclosure, and similar price to the SMMH. Ah...that sounds interesting thanx andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 12:48:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D02773BE7E; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=amO4C6asaYXOQotCRDfavn/aK0fz/DDQ1y2p83X2MZY=; b=uXEnx0yLkQxKWdB/uoORbkvjJq/ExX4OHPZCCcq1nZkJeHLPkXrRZxtliQG2ao7BNH UW/HRRvb7AiF4o6NVljxXSuJh8iT3U4riSDj/N8eDYJBqTcZv2cWR8xLIgveRBwZLwqq /h2KnngJYv3Jgf3P9S59hobQzQi5oG2Zc9MTw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OzFVr/2hS1XaBrCj13GC9ugKMo5GJlmdigNdO4FKPhq/zO71/mkIhTi2BleltxsVnP LDJd022xslSmsmqc8dFRFN9dH6LhOkjxX1PrZNSQSwO4JP5oHwqWhzInjxov+9yIarzp e3gy6vUS1zdAA4Z3mXfuo0oDZ0FTo0L87ALbg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0906171434i558a9ccfq9cb13341142cc937@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:48:25 -0400 Message-ID: <44e368750906180548j34542cd2r3f00301e44b08391@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644ccb8dbacdb046c9ed229 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:48:25 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644ccb8dbacdb046c9ed229 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "recordings are increasingly ads for live shows" i disagree with this on a fundamental level. that's a pretty poor forecast for the recorded medium. i think the studio is a unique environment where you can slowly (or quickly, i guess) sculpt a record into something that could almost invariably never be replicated live. on the record, you (the artist) are in complete control of what the listen is going to hear...they can only control the volume ; ) the subtlety, just to name one thing, is never going to come across live and i contend that live performance and sitting still for 45 minutes with headphones on are two very different creatures. i love live music but i love a well-done record even more. - jim --0016e644ccb8dbacdb046c9ed229 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "recordings are increasingly ads for live shows"

i disagre= e with this on a fundamental level.=A0 that's a pretty poor forecast fo= r the recorded medium.=A0 i think the studio is a unique environment where = you can slowly (or quickly, i guess) sculpt a record into something that co= uld almost invariably never be replicated live.=A0 on the record, you (the = artist) are in complete control of what the listen is going to hear...they = can only control the volume ; )=A0 the subtlety, just to name one thing, is= never going to come across live and i contend that live performance and si= tting still for 45 minutes with headphones on are two very different creatu= res.=A0 i love live music but i love a well-done record even more.

- jim
--0016e644ccb8dbacdb046c9ed229-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 12:54:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE5B43BE80; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:MIME-Version:content-class:From:Subject:Date:Importance:X-Priority:To:Content-Type; b=toKMr6+RkG1ag1p+3oQvV4WHqmMJgw1YtGwmDXkvLF7UBkQvym3dJlHpg5j4Mwil5UusWQleBm1JxLiLY4AIP4NMxlQ7UJsC3tXm6vpzEY8ZxivqFZfal3HTPJvAXd/MfDB4Mz6bJuvlNjCp+z4lzJbUEWu8U4Mvkqonm4KeRsE= ; X-YMail-OSG: hdUcyI4VM1m6FjDwT46CmZ7S2yVYKGY762VlVytAsbj_UhWIBkpLve4LOaDh.u3DpJcCgM1YVKkgwSfSLXvGVoSbU6zHBKuqogoll5lZBh9AEQT2DJXeSQDpgLc94ileAAqGVUeEozWuIG7AKsErhMldZjXvEg.v8N4IbfcjXm9oXyGGKnP5Gq1YDYJ4mPn0GQGNG3BLKPGyEl40qlCEhP_j_Shk8VGL2KKfIDsYy2AyzfsAsxNtLU9iVmX.poL2ykIszOsGQO6I924CthBdDhPQqvDq_mi291xtl6xtKCqlTe8j27n.MafjMQsBSRch03NH_746u0UAJOzN9zvjIVCzIhCIjZTPrZHdFGk- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 content-class: From: Ricky Graham Subject: RE: OT: Eno about record business Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:54:38 +0100 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0C7757CF-3705-BEC8-929C-CDD80F34D6DD_" Message-Id: <20090618125455.932A03BE72@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:54:55 +0000 (UTC) --_0C7757CF-3705-BEC8-929C-CDD80F34D6DD_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well said, james. I agree with you on that. Ricky=20 -----Original Message----- From: james fowler Sent: 18 June 2009 13:48 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business "recordings are increasingly ads for live shows" i disagree with this on a fundamental level.=A0 that's a pretty poor foreca= st for the recorded medium.=A0 i think the studio is a unique environment w= here you can slowly (or quickly, i guess) sculpt a record into something th= at could almost invariably never be replicated live.=A0 on the record, you = (the artist) are in complete control of what the listen is going to hear...= they can only control the volume ; )=A0 the subtlety, just to name one thin= g, is never going to come across live and i contend that live performance a= nd sitting still for 45 minutes with headphones on are two very different c= reatures.=A0 i love live music but i love a well-done record even more. - jim --_0C7757CF-3705-BEC8-929C-CDD80F34D6DD_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Well said, james. I agree with you on that.

R= icky

From: james fowler <twostroke@gmail.com>Sent:= 18 June 2009 13:48
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=
Sub= ject: Re: OT: Eno about record business

"recordings are in= creasingly ads for live shows"

i disagree with this on a fundamental= level. that's a pretty poor forecast for the recorded medium. = i think the studio is a unique environment where you can slowly (or quickly= , i guess) sculpt a record into something that could almost invariably neve= r be replicated live. on the record, you (the artist) are in complete= control of what the listen is going to hear...they can only control the vo= lume ; ) the subtlety, just to name one thing, is never going to come= across live and i contend that live performance and sitting still for 45 m= inutes with headphones on are two very different creatures. i love li= ve music but i love a well-done record even more.

- jim
= --_0C7757CF-3705-BEC8-929C-CDD80F34D6DD_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 13:34:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0215B3BE73; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:34:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 217393246/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.133.216/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.133.216 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj4CAK/eOUpPRoXY/2dsb2JhbAAI0SeECAWIdQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,245,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="217393246" Message-ID: <4A3A4572.8020705@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:47:30 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business References: <7334ca1b0906171434i558a9ccfq9cb13341142cc937@mail.gmail.com> <44e368750906180548j34542cd2r3f00301e44b08391@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <44e368750906180548j34542cd2r3f00301e44b08391@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:34:05 +0000 (UTC) james fowler wrote: > i think the studio is a unique > environment where you can slowly (or quickly, i guess) sculpt a record > into something that could almost invariably never be replicated live. yep...but > on the record, you (the artist) are in complete control of what the > listen is going to hear...they can only control the volume ; ) the > subtlety, just to name one thing, is never going to come across live I've been to plenty of gigs where the subtlety was 100% present. I know what you mean tho', I think it's to do with the technology of pa systems, and whether anyone actually cares what it sounds like. Tomorrow I'm off to see a guy play indian classical music on a Rudra Vina, probably un-amplified. I've heard him before and every nuance is audible. On Sunday we're off to see Ornette Coleman at the Royal Festival Hall. Last time I saw him play (with amplified electric band) it was simply impossible to know what was really going on from the pa sound. ...so that's a bit of a gamble. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 15:02:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDF593BE79; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:02:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <61139.66.162.182.108.1245337013.squirrel@www.redsunsoundroom.com> In-Reply-To: <4A3A4572.8020705@tiscali.co.uk> References: <7334ca1b0906171434i558a9ccfq9cb13341142cc937@mail.gmail.com> <44e368750906180548j34542cd2r3f00301e44b08391@mail.gmail.com> <4A3A4572.8020705@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:56:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business From: "p koniuto" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: peter@RedSunSoundroom.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jade.liquidweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - RedSunSoundroom.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:02:26 +0000 (UTC) I don't think the point is that the recorded medium is no longer a very important artform--it is, and i believe Eno would agree. I also agree with Andy (as would Eno, i'm guessing) that it isn't superior to live music. Andy's point about Indian Classical is a great example. I think the original point is that in the music *business*, the recordings aren't nearly as potentially lucrative as they used to be. More musicians can sell their music than ever before, but almost all musicians can expect to make less money on them than before (with a few glaring exceptions). It's a supply and demand thing, and it's easier than ever to get lots of recorded music for free or for cheap. The music business--that is, the revenue generating aspect of what we do--has seen a paradigm shift. It may be considered bad news for non-performing recording artists like me. But as such, i'm forced into being creative with making money on my music in new ways (at least new for me). One thing i've been doing lately is creating original music for clients who provide guided meditation recordings for sale, for example. There's an area where the recording will always outsell the live performance. I'm blown away that by the shift that artists are actually making money by touring, especially in the United States. Mick Karn once told me he never broke even touring the U.S.--it was a necessary loss incurred in order to market his records. Peter > james fowler wrote: > >> i think the studio is a unique >> environment where you can slowly (or quickly, i guess) sculpt a record >> into something that could almost invariably never be replicated live. > > yep...but > >> on the record, you (the artist) are in complete control of what the >> listen is going to hear...they can only control the volume ; ) the >> subtlety, just to name one thing, is never going to come across live > > I've been to plenty of gigs where the subtlety was 100% present. > > I know what you mean tho', I think it's to do with the technology > of pa systems, and whether anyone actually cares what it sounds like. > > Tomorrow I'm off to see a guy play indian classical music on a Rudra Vina, > probably un-amplified. I've heard him before and every nuance is audible. > > On Sunday we're off to see Ornette Coleman at the Royal Festival Hall. > Last time I saw him play (with amplified electric band) it was simply > impossible to know what was really going on from the pa sound. > ...so that's a bit of a gamble. > > > andy > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 15:58:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51F603BE7F; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:58:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 491 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:58:58 UTC Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:50:43 +0000 (UTC) From: loopbozo@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1501219839.4416001245340243410.JavaMail.root@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1808361124.4413981245339916732.JavaMail.root@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_218583_1411471743.1245340243409" X-Originating-IP: [24.8.105.67] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.12_GA_2816.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/5.0.12_GA_2816.RHEL5_64) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:58:59 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_218583_1411471743.1245340243409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just wondering when the last time Eno played live on stage was, or for that matter when was the last time he attended a live show and sat in the audience? While I'm asking questions, how much do you suppose he got payed for producing the last Coldplay recording? And for the record I like Eno's musical work as a rule, and some of his musings, but I believe his perspective in this instance to be skewed at best. bryan helm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricky Graham" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 6:54:38 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: RE: OT: Eno about record business Well said, james. I agree with you on that. Ricky From: james fowler Sent: 18 June 2009 13:48 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business "recordings are increasingly ads for live shows" i disagree with this on a fundamental level. that's a pretty poor forecast for the recorded medium. i think the studio is a unique environment where you can slowly (or quickly, i guess) sculpt a record into something that could almost invariably never be replicated live. on the record, you (the artist) are in complete control of what the listen is going to hear...they can only control the volume ; ) the subtlety, just to name one thing, is never going to come across live and i contend that live performance and sitting still for 45 minutes with headphones on are two very different creatures. i love live music but i love a well-done record even more. - jim ------=_Part_218583_1411471743.1245340243409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Just wond= ering when the last time Eno played live on stage was, or for that matter w= hen was the last time he attended a live show and sat in the audience? Whil= e I'm asking questions, how much do you suppose he got payed for producing = the last Coldplay recording? And for the record I like Eno's musical work a= s a rule, and some of his musings, but I believe his perspective in this in= stance to be skewed at best.

      &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;          bryan helm

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ricky Graham" <rock.guit= ar.guru@btinternet.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Se= nt: Thursday, June 18, 2009 6:54:38 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Sub= ject: RE: OT: Eno about record business

Well said, james. I agree wit= h you on that.

Ricky

From: james fowler <= twostroke@gmail.com>
Sent: 18 June 2009 13:48
<= span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">To:= Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: OT:= Eno about record business

"recordings are increasingly ads f= or live shows"

i disagree with this on a fundamental level. th= at's a pretty poor forecast for the recorded medium. i think the stud= io is a unique environment where you can slowly (or quickly, i guess) sculp= t a record into something that could almost invariably never be replicated = live. on the record, you (the artist) are in complete control of what= the listen is going to hear...they can only control the volume ; ) t= he subtlety, just to name one thing, is never going to come across live and= i contend that live performance and sitting still for 45 minutes with head= phones on are two very different creatures. i love live music but i l= ove a well-done record even more.

- jim
------=_Part_218583_1411471743.1245340243409-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 16:15:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCB753BE77; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:15:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'andy butler'" , References: <4A3A4572.8020705@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: RE: OT: Eno about record business Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:15:42 -0700 Message-ID: <30AC3F29282841B7836383EC3C4129A1@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <4A3A4572.8020705@tiscali.co.uk> Thread-Index: AcnwLx7Fsx7MUWejT9udYElzM6qG/QAAFV7Q Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:15:45 +0000 (UTC) You know Andy, traditionally; the Rudra Vina is not supposed to be played unless the musician has gone through a month of fasting and abstinence. Which probably accounts the instruments lack of popularity in India. I don't know if that applies to the listeners. Bill -----Original Message----- From: andy butler [mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 6:48 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business james fowler wrote: > i think the studio is a unique > environment where you can slowly (or quickly, i guess) sculpt a record > into something that could almost invariably never be replicated live. yep...but > on the record, you (the artist) are in complete control of what the > listen is going to hear...they can only control the volume ; ) the > subtlety, just to name one thing, is never going to come across live I've been to plenty of gigs where the subtlety was 100% present. I know what you mean tho', I think it's to do with the technology of pa systems, and whether anyone actually cares what it sounds like. Tomorrow I'm off to see a guy play indian classical music on a Rudra Vina, probably un-amplified. I've heard him before and every nuance is audible. On Sunday we're off to see Ornette Coleman at the Royal Festival Hall. Last time I saw him play (with amplified electric band) it was simply impossible to know what was really going on from the pa sound. ...so that's a bit of a gamble. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 16:16:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A960A3BE80; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:16:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:cc:content-type; bh=f8S2qTkwTiRfaP4SEAWU5+Mfa/G81uYi/03RX3vw8n8=; b=jdmRtk9Dmi//R/pf8X/VYtdLdIesqvqH4JBIhs8P32l9zkpmsESmw16LrEe5zy+ol3 yk1yaqhp58EtFXy+lvdl55nSvhAEtGk6zN9PH2JPlJ64qUI5AtBm5W9GwWREHVV32Aw0 IB7W3r2iphTzO6obRNLp8znC9UqqGh0GPvxXM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; b=KZV6EGOye7G+TUb5hQHBIZMOhsFDcPOhoqvU48sfRJrU82NYBO4/tK2ybJcJyFOWjS KVC+yxubIm9sAid/8NN+III0nRHPDy/j/80txJ61ZdrBn+dAlJtqVpirMKAsRZnBzsDP Cdtic8IyzgcNEZ/eUe33T5OIxjswfxFfK5UQo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <61139.66.162.182.108.1245337013.squirrel@www.redsunsoundroom.com> References: <7334ca1b0906171434i558a9ccfq9cb13341142cc937@mail.gmail.com> <44e368750906180548j34542cd2r3f00301e44b08391@mail.gmail.com> <4A3A4572.8020705@tiscali.co.uk> <61139.66.162.182.108.1245337013.squirrel@www.redsunsoundroom.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:16:07 -0400 Message-ID: <44e368750906180916s4e4c9eebk503d743833d7794a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business From: james fowler Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362853deb0a14e046ca1b99c Resent-Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:16:08 +0000 (UTC) --0016362853deb0a14e046ca1b99c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "I think the original point is that in the music *business*, the recordings aren't nearly as potentially lucrative as they used to be." oh, sure...nobody can disagree with this. but the listening public is, on the whole, a collection of non-discerning nitwits. i guess i could be wrong, but i like to think the people hurting mariah carey's cd sales are not the same people file-sharing another green world...actually, any record he's made that's worth listening to was probably purchased back when stealing meant stuffing the record in your shirt and walking out of the store ; ) i like to think of eno listeners are upstanding folk who will buy the music, which sort of precludes him from the discussion. here again, i'm thinking that i am gravely mistaken. - jim --0016362853deb0a14e046ca1b99c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "I think the original point is that in the music *business*, the recor= dings aren't nearly as potentially lucrative as they used to be."<= br>
oh, sure...nobody can disagree with this.=A0 but the listening publi= c is, on the whole, a collection of non-discerning nitwits.=A0 i guess i co= uld be wrong, but i like to think the people hurting mariah carey's cd = sales are not the same people file-sharing another green world...actually, = any record he's made that's worth listening to was probably purchas= ed back when stealing meant stuffing the record in your shirt and walking o= ut of the store ; )=A0 i like to think of eno listeners are upstanding folk= who will buy the music, which sort of precludes him from the discussion.= =A0 here again, i'm thinking that i am gravely mistaken.=A0

- jim
--0016362853deb0a14e046ca1b99c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 16:32:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E77643BE73; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:32:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <44e368750906180548j34542cd2r3f00301e44b08391@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0906171434i558a9ccfq9cb13341142cc937@mail.gmail.com> <44e368750906180548j34542cd2r3f00301e44b08391@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:28:10 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:32:22 +0000 (UTC) At 8:48 AM -0400 6/18/09, james fowler wrote: >"recordings are increasingly ads for live shows" > >i disagree with this on a fundamental level. that's a pretty poor >forecast for the recorded medium. It's not a forecast, it's an observation. And a valid one, in my view. >i think the studio is a unique environment where you can slowly (or >quickly, i guess) sculpt a record into something that could almost >invariably never be replicated live. Yes, of course, and I ache for the day when it was feasible to spend a lot of time and resources making a studio album. >on the record, you (the artist) are in complete control of what the >listen is going to hear...they can only control the volume ; ) the >subtlety, just to name one thing, is never going to come across live >and i contend that live performance and sitting still for 45 minutes >with headphones on are two very different creatures. i love live >music but i love a well-done record even more. I think we all do. But what Eno is saying is that it is difficult, verging on impossible, to make a living selling records. You have to go out and play gigs. And what few records you sell, you'll sell at gigs. In the "Americana" and "jamband" worlds I travel in, CD sales are way, way down. One band I know, typical of many, tells me that about 80% of their CD sales are at gigs. You play the festival set and then you go sit at the merch table, making contact with your fans. They'll buy the CD from you there and you'll sign it; they ay also buy a t-shirt, if you can afford to make them and carry them with you on tour. In the 20th century, musicians toured to support album sales. They didn't sell their records at the gig - they'd play shows, and do radio appearances and in-stores, to support the sales of their product in record stores. (Of course, the record industry was set up from day one to deny payment to the artists, but that's another screed). Now, you make a CD as a calling card to get gigs and maybe if you're lucky some airplay to help get people to your gigs. And if you're lucky and you didn't spend too much in the studio, you might break even on the coast of making the disc. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 16:32:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28EDB3BE84; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:32:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1501219839.4416001245340243410.JavaMail.root@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail.c omcast.net> References: <1501219839.4416001245340243410.JavaMail.root@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail.c omcast.net> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:29:12 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:32:24 +0000 (UTC) At 3:50 PM +0000 6/18/09, loopbozo@comcast.net wrote: >Just wondering when the last time Eno played live on stage was, or >for that matter when was the last time he attended a live show and >sat in the audience? While I'm asking questions, how much do you >suppose he got payed for producing the last Coldplay recording? And >for the record I like Eno's musical work as a rule, and some of his >musings, but I believe his perspective in this instance to be skewed >at best. My real-world experience bears Eno out. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 16:32:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C926B3BE81; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 217088365/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.133.216/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.133.216 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj4CABwJOkpPRoXY/2dsb2JhbAAI0hCECAWIdQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,245,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="217088365" Message-ID: <4A3A6F5A.3060204@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:46:18 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business References: <1501219839.4416001245340243410.JavaMail.root@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1501219839.4416001245340243410.JavaMail.root@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:32:53 +0000 (UTC) loopbozo@comcast.net wrote: > Just wondering when the last time Eno played live on stage was, or for > that matter when was the last time he attended a live show and sat in > the audience? he was standing :- http://www.hotsdesign.co.uk/timbowness/2004diary.html I didn't get to see him, I was stuck behind the mixing desk (and the venue p.a. sucks) Main reason he was there appeared to be that his brother Roger was playing. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 17:34:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4D7D3BE73; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:34:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 445 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:34:55 UTC Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:27:29 -0700 Subject: FS: CHEAP 61 note analog and digital synths From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "DH" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:34:55 +0000 (UTC) Looking for room so selling a few 61 note synths. 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I will pack it myself very well and only charge actualy shipping giving a refund for any extra that you pay in advance. References out the wazoo. Feel free to ask any questions, these are some underrated and cool synths. If you pick up and buy more than one we can work out a deal too. -- Thanks for reading! ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 17:58:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A46863BE7C; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <031D1217E28E4D648099D20305C9657D@pcfabio> From: "eterogeneo" To: References: <1501219839.4416001245340243410.JavaMail.root@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:58:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02F4_01C9F04F.15CF9CA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: smtp6.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:58:06 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02F4_01C9F04F.15CF9CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Just wondering when the last time Eno played live on stage was Personally, I've see him playing live in 2002, here in Rome.=20 He had never sat and between songs (it was the "Drawn From Life" tour,=20 with Peter Schwalm and other five musicians on drums, bass, guitar,=20 violin and percussion) he was all the time jocking with audience and=20 doing funny things with vocoider and a kaoss pad. But I dont' think it's relevant how many gigs he does,=20 due to the fact that he is not "just" a musician, but also a producer,=20 a visual artist and more.... > It's not narrow minded as an observation of the audiences at every single loopfest I've ever gone to. The audience are the performers. There are a narrow slice of people who do go to shows for the music,but = we're a sadly small minority. Interesting point. At the last loopfest in Rome there were more than 50 = persons paying for the show. When I saw Eivind Aarset, about a month ago, there were less than 40 = persons in the audience... So can you say the loopfestival was a succesfull events compared to the = Aarset gig ? =20 Yes (in my opinion :-) but that's really different from the "music = business" Eno is talking about, I think... And I also think it's true what he says about the increasing number of = music Festivals araising in the world nowdays (..i'm not referring to = the loopfestivals now....) Fabio=20 www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ------=_NextPart_000_02F4_01C9F04F.15CF9CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
> Just wondering when the last time Eno played live on stage = was

Personally, I've see = him playing=20 live in 2002, here in Rome.

He had never sat and = between songs=20 (it was the "Drawn From Life" tour,

with Peter Schwalm and = other five=20 musicians on drums, bass, guitar,

violin and percussion) = he was all=20 the time jocking with audience and

doing funny things with = vocoider=20 and a kaoss pad.

But I dont' think=20 it's relevant how many gigs he does,

due to the fact that he = is not=20 "just" a musician, but also a producer,

a visual artist and=20 more....

> It's not narrow minded as an observation of the audiences at=20 every
single loopfest I've ever gone to. The audience are the=20 performers.
There are a narrow slice of people who do go to shows for = the=20 music,but we're a sadly small minority.

Interesting point. At = the last=20 loopfest in Rome there were more than 50 persons paying for the show.

When I saw Eivind = Aarset, about a=20 month ago, there were less than 40 persons in the = audience...

So can you say the = loopfestival was a succesfull events compared to the Aarset gig ? =20

Yes (in my opinion :-) = but that's=20 really different from the "music business" Eno is talking about, I=20 think...

And I also think it's = true what he=20 says about the increasing number of music Festivals araising in the = world=20 nowdays (..i'm not referring to the loopfestivals now....)

Fabio
www.eterogeneo.com
www.myspace.com/eterogeneo=

------=_NextPart_000_02F4_01C9F04F.15CF9CA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 19:15:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63EB63BE78; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:15:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <031D1217E28E4D648099D20305C9657D@pcfabio> References: <1501219839.4416001245340243410.JavaMail.root@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <031D1217E28E4D648099D20305C9657D@pcfabio> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-757363538 Message-Id: <7AFBDC55-3A99-4867-A351-FF07CF88FA9D@ubergadget.com> From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business (biography) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:15:35 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:15:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-757363538 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jun 18, 2009, at 10:58 AM, eterogeneo wrote: > But I dont' think it's relevant how many gigs he does, > due to the fact that he is not "just" a musician, but also a producer, > a visual artist and more.... Indeed. And synchronistically, I have just started reading his autobiography, "On Some Faraway Beach", written by David Sheppard. (2008) (LONG! 439 pages, and with extra pages of sources and a bibliography). I can already say that it is definitely REVcommended reading! Cheers, Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ --Apple-Mail-6-757363538 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
On Jun 18, 2009, at 10:58 AM, eterogeneo = wrote:

But I = dont' think it's relevant how many gigs he = does,
due = to the fact that he is not "just" a musician, but also a = producer,
a= visual artist and = more....

Indeed. And = synchronistically, I have just started reading his autobiography, "On = Some Faraway Beach", written by David Sheppard. = (2008)
(LONG! 439 pages, and with extra pages of sources and a = bibliography).  I can already say that = it is definitely REVcommended = reading!

Cheers,
Rev = Fever
http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfe= ver/

= --Apple-Mail-6-757363538-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 19:36:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 449F53BE77; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:36:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <6ec2108fc384332acdaed282f8746689.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record busines From: looppool@cruzio.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:36:01 +0000 (UTC) Mark Sottilaro wrote: "I'd go one step further than Dr. Eno and say that people don't even go to a show for the music or performance, but more often for the chance to be with a group of like-minded people. (and to drink beer and convince a member of the opposite sex to have sex with you) The music is an excuse." I think you may be correct about a lot of people, Mark, but I think it's very inaccurate to infer that all people have this motivation. I know a lot of people where I live who are great lovers of music and go to shows to see music being played. I'm certainly one of those people. At local indie rock shows at the Crepe Place (which has become a haven for touring Indie rock bands of note in Santa Cruz) I've noticed that the lion share of the audience is really attentive and obviously responding to specific musical events. It is also possible to get a beer buzz on, flirt with someone of the opposite sex AND actually listen to music, you know. And then, there are the plethora of music oriented shows at the Kuumbwa Jazz center and the various small venues that put on ethnic music and new music shows. Here, the lion share of the audiences are extremely concentrated on sound. Maybe SF is different, but I kind of doubt it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 19:39:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89C273BE85; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=XqEugkbBW2RKq1+z6TNklr+dNdza+Sbe9GcDyCViLKpjB4NH50ajYYeMCApS9LkG; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <6ec2108fc384332acdaed282f8746689.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> References: <6ec2108fc384332acdaed282f8746689.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:38:59 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record busines Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79571fb80ba9e98e699f5ff0dd984d04c5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:39:52 +0000 (UTC) >Mark Sottilaro wrote: > >"I'd go one step further than Dr. Eno and say that people don't even go >to a show for the music or performance, but more often for the chance >to be with a group of like-minded people. (and to drink beer and >convince a member of the opposite sex to have sex with you) The music >is an excuse." >... >At local indie rock shows at the Crepe Place (which has become a haven for >touring Indie >rock bands of note in Santa Cruz) I've noticed that the lion share of the >audience is really >attentive and obviously responding to specific musical events. > >It is also possible to get a beer buzz on, flirt with someone of the >opposite sex AND actually listen to music, you know. > >And then, there are the plethora of music oriented shows at the Kuumbwa >Jazz center and the various small venues that put on ethnic music and new >music shows. Here, the lion share of the audiences are extremely >concentrated on sound. > >Maybe SF is different, but I kind of doubt it. From what I've seen SF is less about the opposite sex thing... :-D -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 19:41:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10D563BE82; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:41:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ogIB8afJt+bqutFzLfrPgL6ySHYPBFFjGJpdNOFvzeY=; b=Gt2Vkx+7rR8ad5Fr5gdrVJtybDe2ZTxWpp0mtjEZEmzMdeazPCJYqbYd6NNq6uMs7n vSIhidHtrVMQp4YQ49vAcRsewqO024VDw+oVyLLlKj+GQbfofJOf3M7OKFeP9mVVLE+N Ey+e8NddhteNnAQ6a8u5PxoDqk0BytBXqSTDk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=P3ynXS1eGLKMGlRgUYFb4W4T9zIKtsoABpKnCjC2Vj3sRiTPOKf3Nhju03UGkSpgCg TzcPaSWftnb7S/dcXxA+ef1aLqHyU4hL9Jh30r8t5qkjDcQCOazTA4+Oj9EDn9lf8xf/ fIHKGknSl/3XpdTt1ax1wNpLW55TZsdqT0uy8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1501219839.4416001245340243410.JavaMail.root@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1808361124.4413981245339916732.JavaMail.root@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <1501219839.4416001245340243410.JavaMail.root@sz0013a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:11:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business From: Michael Billow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644cc6e4f7cf1046ca42c27 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:41:50 +0000 (UTC) --0016e644cc6e4f7cf1046ca42c27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bryan, I've read that that Eno always hated live gigs and avoided them. There are some instances throughout the past 40-ish years where he's done it though. Here's a recent one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyiJHNB-P5U On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:50 AM, wrote: > Just wondering when the last time Eno played live on stage was, or for that > matter when was the last time he attended a live show and sat in the > audience? While I'm asking questions, how much do you suppose he got payed > for producing the last Coldplay recording? And for the record I like Eno's > musical work as a rule, and some of his musings, but I believe his > perspective in this instance to be skewed at best. > > > bryan helm > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ricky Graham" > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 6:54:38 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: RE: OT: Eno about record business > > Well said, james. I agree with you on that. > > Ricky > > ------------------------------ > From: james fowler > Sent: 18 June 2009 13:48 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OT: Eno about record business > > "recordings are increasingly ads for live shows" > > i disagree with this on a fundamental level. that's a pretty poor forecast > for the recorded medium. i think the studio is a unique environment where > you can slowly (or quickly, i guess) sculpt a record into something that > could almost invariably never be replicated live. on the record, you (the > artist) are in complete control of what the listen is going to hear...they > can only control the volume ; ) the subtlety, just to name one thing, is > never going to come across live and i contend that live performance and > sitting still for 45 minutes with headphones on are two very different > creatures. i love live music but i love a well-done record even more. > > - jim > --0016e644cc6e4f7cf1046ca42c27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bryan, I've read that that Eno always hated live gigs and avoided them.= There are some instances throughout the past 40-ish years where he's d= one it though. Here's a recent one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiyiJHNB-P5U

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:50 AM, <loopbozo@comcast.net> wrote:

Just wondering when the last time Eno played live on stage was, or for t= hat matter when was the last time he attended a live show and sat in the au= dience? While I'm asking questions, how much do you suppose he got paye= d for producing the last Coldplay recording? And for the record I like Eno&= #39;s musical work as a rule, and some of his musings, but I believe his pe= rspective in this instance to be skewed at best.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ricky G= raham" <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 6:54:38 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mou= ntain
Subject: RE: OT: Eno about record business

Well said, james. I agree = with you on that.

Ricky

From: james fowler &= lt;twostroke@gmail= .com>
Se= nt: 18 June 2009 13:48
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com
Su= bject: Re: OT: Eno about record business

"recordi= ngs are increasingly ads for live shows"

i disagree with this on a fundamental level.=A0 that's a pretty poo= r forecast for the recorded medium.=A0 i think the studio is a unique envir= onment where you can slowly (or quickly, i guess) sculpt a record into some= thing that could almost invariably never be replicated live.=A0 on the reco= rd, you (the artist) are in complete control of what the listen is going to= hear...they can only control the volume ; )=A0 the subtlety, just to name = one thing, is never going to come across live and i contend that live perfo= rmance and sitting still for 45 minutes with headphones on are two very dif= ferent creatures.=A0 i love live music but i love a well-done record even m= ore.

- jim

--0016e644cc6e4f7cf1046ca42c27-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 19:45:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17A1D3BE89; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=o7L3VZwn6XlBnTDzx3ZyMUpfFlbuNmLpIbi3S5VshOA=; b=OC0LI2TJcGi27eRcKwIXUHK5EXaxvhhYR+7neCWIyXZCXMyBA8ZfW0vS2/rjwsTHVA SgEphF/Co3Mz13L4IqucUkRH8aqKU2Bdv87yxp2Stj7dTNKHnbcoe+O+rCdoJt23UanO 8k9zH16y5Y6+u3hlVuq9b8/33XpeuS8e4R23Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=dXWu1IySvDWUWCXM4bnn6kMgT7zGvQg022dDXHqsJenVkP39p4WsaYR20CEPPylBVT kxsWsqfG3I6ry8zABGr+AqfKBqFGlYo9OELO1oKTGJGgGQVfhskx0GXRYOmy7sjSWg8N clMOTjx2wTYoWsfSGR69Z91+JCHeJnq0PVgrg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:45:23 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906181245k10e7d682nd5c14c7d66652f99@mail.gmail.com> Subject: ot: In search of suggestions for odd stompboxes From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Dear list, so I've ever so slightly started to turn my back a little to blown-up rack gear and complex computer systems and instead decided to fall in love with stompboxes a little bit. What I already have are mainly three delay pedals (DD20, SMM w/Hazari, DL4) a few KAOSS Pads (yes, you can play them with your toes), and then there's two of those guitar multi-effect thingies (Zoom G2.1u, Line6 POD X3 Live), and a few really old simple things (Ibanez AW-1, Boss OD-2). So what I'm looking for is something that can do fairly normal things if wanted, but can be used to completely odd, nonlinear, chaotic stuff with the right settings - to wreak non-deterministic havoc on my loops if needed. Any suggestions with a short description? Thanks, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 20:03:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A8523BE78; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:03:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 213697708/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.205.118/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.205.118 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj4CAI86OkpPTs12/2dsb2JhbAAI0lWECAWIdQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,246,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="213697708" Message-ID: <4A3AA0CD.7080200@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:17:17 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ot: In search of suggestions for odd stompboxes References: <7334ca1b0906181245k10e7d682nd5c14c7d66652f99@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0906181245k10e7d682nd5c14c7d66652f99@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:03:54 +0000 (UTC) I've only seen this demoed online, but it's possibly the sort of thing you'd be into jomox T-Resonator http://www.jomox.com/product_details.php?lang=2&category=&product_id=3 they say "it's 2 moog type filters with feedback loops and delay" I say, "the demo's on the site aren't very attractive, but I wonder what a bit of finesse with this device would achieve". Essentially, this is a device which can be as much a synth as an fx. The 2 filters will both oscillate, and can do FM on each other, so it will certainly do non-deterministic. It *may* be possible to do some regular lo-pass filtering, (with LFO and env) as well as the 'chaotic'. Has anyone here actually tried it?? andy Rainer Straschill wrote: > Dear list, > > so I've ever so slightly started to turn my back a little to blown-up > rack gear and complex computer systems and instead decided to fall in > love with stompboxes a little bit. > > What I already have are mainly three delay pedals (DD20, SMM w/Hazari, > DL4) a few KAOSS Pads (yes, you can play them with your toes), and > then there's two of those guitar multi-effect thingies (Zoom G2.1u, > Line6 POD X3 Live), and a few really old simple things (Ibanez AW-1, > Boss OD-2). > > So what I'm looking for is something that can do fairly normal things > if wanted, but can be used to completely odd, nonlinear, chaotic stuff > with the right settings - to wreak non-deterministic havoc on my loops > if needed. > > Any suggestions with a short description? > > Thanks, > > Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 20:04:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C550C3BE77; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:04:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b7eb2984-2417-415d-b45d-02286a750dc0_" X-Originating-IP: [98.234.24.5] From: samba - To: Subject: : OT: Eno about record business Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:04:38 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090618194151.9456F3BE8D@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090618194151.9456F3BE8D@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2009 20:04:38.0748 (UTC) FILETIME=[028AF1C0:01C9F050] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:04:39 +0000 (UTC) --_b7eb2984-2417-415d-b45d-02286a750dc0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Regarding 20th century tours supporting recording sales=2C this describe= s signed acts=2Cwith the record company putting up the cash to record =2Cpr= ess distribute and promote . When the artist played a gig the company made = sure it was advertised=2Cthe recordings in the local shops and getting play= ed on the local radio. MAjors tended to have control of distribution channe= ls=2Cand media access. In exchange they got the lion's share of the net=2Ca= fter expenses were taken out to the artist's cut=2Cwhich also ha to cover = managment =2C acountants=2C lawyers=2Ccrew etc.. Differnet story for the = unsigned who had to do it all themselves- hard to coordinate when on the ro= ad- or hire agents and managers. But most acts have to tour to make a livin= g either way. Fine with me=2CI oove to play. For a minute .late 80s through early 00s one could do pretty well on sel= f produced recordings=2Cgetting 100% instead of the 10% or less of most con= tracts. These days Media expects content to be free or cheap=2Crealtiy TV i= s =2Camng other thigs a way of not paying screen actors guild rates =2C( th= e trend in global capitalisim is trying to avoid labor costs ) There are so= many cable =2Cinternet=2Cand sattelite channels thes days that it' not tha= t hard to get stuff broadcast. It seems to me it should be possible to parl= ey such possibilities into sales. --_b7eb2984-2417-415d-b45d-02286a750dc0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =3BRegarding 20th century =3B tours supporting recording sales=2C&= nbsp=3B this describes signed acts=2Cwith the record company putting up the= cash to record =2Cpress distribute and promote . When the artist played a = gig the company made sure it was advertised=2Cthe recordings in the local s= hops and getting played on the local radio. MAjors tended to have control o= f distribution channels=2Cand media access. In exchange they got the lion's= share of the net=2Cafter expenses were taken out to the artist's cut=2Cwhi= ch also ha to cover =3B managment =2C acountants=2C lawyers=2Ccrew etc.= . =3B Differnet story =3B for the unsigned who had to do it all the= mselves- hard to coordinate when on the road- or hire agents and managers. = But most acts have to tour to make a living =3B either way. Fine with m= e=2CI oove to play.
=3B For =3B a minute .late 80s through earl= y 00s one could do pretty well on self produced recordings=2Cgetting 100% i= nstead of the 10% or less of most contracts. These days Media expects conte= nt to be free or cheap=2Crealtiy TV is =2Camng other thigs a way of not pay= ing screen actors guild rates =2C( the trend in global capitalisim is tryin= g to avoid labor costs ) There are so many cable =2Cinternet=2Cand sattelit= e channels thes days that it' not that hard to get stuff broadcast. It seem= s to me it should be possible to parley such possibilities into sales.
<= /body> = --_b7eb2984-2417-415d-b45d-02286a750dc0_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 20:08:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B300F3BE84; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:08:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IclZxAPOBZXm02X4NzOdff+/7Y61B2nLlSOqBARrKRM=; b=DJl9HAJgOSQ220jVnXQr7SHoR36ViNy9uvCIlCYU2y60fIEQohHrsDZpqVRcTnzk8y aIqrmTyWbVrlnnQEqamOZ0UoawLuBAAZpUFDo/Vjvf6ab5bH6v51EXDeb5DHUqvCl/jz Z1Iw8ptQ6wQquupdGIiMGcVakyw0xlG2qq51c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MG77c0xsLq9v3U+MWQcIBcdK2fCz0EZrpTmtNje0NX4dcaH0Qy2VlMNjwz4ublI+6v xt1QBFrXfNGKs1Qvn+Y5vobFnInZPQ7wxzz9fNNCI/54K5x3ivisfldgvbkiJKlrVP4f kjLf5qxeX4YPNhebj//7vyCZCqhtEbqYfmJmE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0906181245k10e7d682nd5c14c7d66652f99@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0906181245k10e7d682nd5c14c7d66652f99@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:00:57 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ot: In search of suggestions for odd stompboxes From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <8PgygD.A.wNH.j6pOKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:08:03 +0000 (UTC) Adrenalinn III http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinn3/adrenalinn3.shtml Beat synced AND randomized modulation fx. On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Dear list, > > so I've ever so slightly started to turn my back a little to blown-up > rack gear and complex computer systems and instead decided to fall in > love with stompboxes a little bit. > > What I already have are mainly three delay pedals (DD20, SMM w/Hazari, > DL4) a few KAOSS Pads (yes, you can play them with your toes), and > then there's two of those guitar multi-effect thingies (Zoom G2.1u, > Line6 POD X3 Live), and a few really old simple things (Ibanez AW-1, > Boss OD-2). > > So what I'm looking for is something that can do fairly normal things > if wanted, but can be used to completely odd, nonlinear, chaotic stuff > with the right settings - to wreak non-deterministic havoc on my loops > if needed. > > Any suggestions with a short description? > > Thanks, > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer > > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 20:10:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB8A13BE80; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:10:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=kM7B2ZcA9zokXttogaxXBsc0/bWOinELW1+YMF/y4tmLo6NjOzCDX5prYw7tkBV8CEUiS6TR4zxRl2ARpP8dott+SRCOFYN2dE+9ZlxEw/79MeYMcabcDzj4EGwPVXD7kQnhw2of2YPr3KZwlsw0M4EbQbA2CQqoW56Q/tqNxpc= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: Mi82Q4AVM1n0hzEdjpkHgUTlDpcnKYnFmlNp7pzjjK4.6lIe4utIjdJ4TbM207GAdHNa0blMGB9q9b2EyNqYXDS2v8bxFUXtcu8w6ufZtn7ug9lDRdbTDUAhjmtfZPL47WMIWY9djeexr20zsqEBCT7K3Phl9nEKJ42bT4FBhMn3mvK54MCFHzoYDY7Ljup5ofD_XyBQK08mHJrE03.sXyqGq7lF4PJtG1QiRj_kfL1yjy0vWlTyj1gsct9NamDDvfD.wLAQdazkqRwYKpY7EgRKR7qS8JtockWnvop9whRuFSbUMACnd5xSMPEdbg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0906181245k10e7d682nd5c14c7d66652f99@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-760644550 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: ot: In search of suggestions for odd stompboxes Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:10:16 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:10:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-760644550 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Better than the Splicer? Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 18 Jun 2009, at 21:00, Tony K wrote: > Adrenalinn III > > http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinn3/adrenalinn3.shtml > > Beat synced AND randomized modulation fx. > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Rainer > Straschill wrote: >> Dear list, >> >> so I've ever so slightly started to turn my back a little to blown-up >> rack gear and complex computer systems and instead decided to fall in >> love with stompboxes a little bit. >> >> What I already have are mainly three delay pedals (DD20, SMM w/ >> Hazari, >> DL4) a few KAOSS Pads (yes, you can play them with your toes), and >> then there's two of those guitar multi-effect thingies (Zoom G2.1u, >> Line6 POD X3 Live), and a few really old simple things (Ibanez AW-1, >> Boss OD-2). >> >> So what I'm looking for is something that can do fairly normal things >> if wanted, but can be used to completely odd, nonlinear, chaotic >> stuff >> with the right settings - to wreak non-deterministic havoc on my >> loops >> if needed. >> >> Any suggestions with a short description? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Rainer >> >> > > > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony > --Apple-Mail-2-760644550 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Better than the Splicer?

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com
mattstevensguitar@btinter= net.com

On 18 Jun 2009, = at 21:00, Tony K wrote:

Adrenalinn III

http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinn3/adrenalinn3.shtml=

Beat synced AND randomized modulation fx.

On Thu, Jun = 18, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Rainer
moinsound@googlemail.com> = wrote:

Dear = list,

so I've ever so slightly started to turn my back a = little to blown-up
rack gear and complex = computer systems and instead decided to fall in
love with stompboxes a little bit.

What I = already have are mainly three delay pedals (DD20, SMM = w/Hazari,
DL4) a few KAOSS Pads (yes, you = can play them with your toes), and
then there's = two of those guitar multi-effect thingies (Zoom G2.1u,
Line6 POD X3 Live), and a few really old simple = things (Ibanez AW-1,
Boss OD-2).

So what = I'm looking for is something that can do fairly normal things
if wanted, but can be used to completely odd, = nonlinear, chaotic stuff
with the = right settings - to wreak non-deterministic havoc on my loops
if needed.

Any suggestions with a short = description?

Thanks,

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = Rainer

--=A0
Tony

=

= --Apple-Mail-2-760644550-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 20:19:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83FEC3BE73; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:19:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005501c9f052$152cc590$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: References: <7334ca1b0906181245k10e7d682nd5c14c7d66652f99@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: In search of suggestions for odd stompboxes Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:19:27 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0052_01C9F06B.399DF570" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:19:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C9F06B.399DF570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable zvex fuzz factory ( weirdest fuzz on the market ) zvex ringtone ( ring modulator with a sequencer ) mxr bluebox ( the most unlinear fuzz,octave oedal ) moog freq box ( audio controlled oscillator ) moog ring modulator moog murf ( great filter ) boss sl20 ( slicer ) freq box and moog ring modulator has oscillator outs which is great. = recording a new record based on these 2 oscillators! best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: www.aucourantrecords.com "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and=20 allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." Blogcritics, Richard Marcus "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." Massimo Ricci, touching extremes ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rainer Straschill=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:45 PM Subject: ot: In search of suggestions for odd stompboxes Dear list, so I've ever so slightly started to turn my back a little to blown-up rack gear and complex computer systems and instead decided to fall in love with stompboxes a little bit. What I already have are mainly three delay pedals (DD20, SMM w/Hazari, DL4) a few KAOSS Pads (yes, you can play them with your toes), and then there's two of those guitar multi-effect thingies (Zoom G2.1u, Line6 POD X3 Live), and a few really old simple things (Ibanez AW-1, Boss OD-2). So what I'm looking for is something that can do fairly normal things if wanted, but can be used to completely odd, nonlinear, chaotic stuff with the right settings - to wreak non-deterministic havoc on my loops if needed. Any suggestions with a short description? Thanks, Rainer ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C9F06B.399DF570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
zvex fuzz factory ( weirdest fuzz on the market )

zvex ringtone ( ring modulator with a sequencer )

mxr bluebox ( the most unlinear fuzz,octave oedal )

moog freq box ( audio controlled oscillator )

moog ring modulator

moog murf ( great filter )

boss sl20 ( slicer )

freq box and moog ring modulator has oscillator outs which is = great.=20 recording a new record based on these 2 oscillators!

best.

Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out = now on=20 Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com

"wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and =
allow you=20 to explore worlds previously closed to you."
Blogcritics, Richard=20 Marcus

"wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, = period."
Massimo=20 Ricci, touching extremes

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rainer Straschill

To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20

Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 = 10:45=20 PM

Subject: ot: In search of = suggestions for=20 odd stompboxes

Dear list,

so I've ever so slightly started to = turn my=20 back a little to blown-up
rack gear and complex computer systems = and=20 instead decided to fall in
love with stompboxes a little = bit.

What I=20 already have are mainly three delay pedals (DD20, SMM = w/Hazari,
DL4) a few=20 KAOSS Pads (yes, you can play them with your toes), and
then = there's two of=20 those guitar multi-effect thingies (Zoom G2.1u,
Line6 POD X3 Live), = and a=20 few really old simple things (Ibanez AW-1,
Boss OD-2).

So = what I'm=20 looking for is something that can do fairly normal things
if = wanted, but=20 can be used to completely odd, nonlinear, chaotic stuff
with the = right=20 settings - to wreak non-deterministic havoc on my loops
if=20 needed.

Any suggestions with a short=20 = description?

Thanks,

      &n= bsp;       =20 Rainer
------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C9F06B.399DF570-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 20:29:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 525323BE7C; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:29:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1709 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:29:27 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jUtBT9Fx44QkPZfPCpGZ+seyq+C49lQYsTPlJ539kvE=; b=e6vlZmhaD7ephfdm07eDw3BclXz6Ho7m1UMJoDEdNyi8ctIm3/2EmwZ2UNlt7N29c8 X9BwLA+GBJ6dH3b8r3Ui7A5KGSfAAlrM0RqCgXyBDgLHejiNmNeZH7pZp3/7Zmr+RXbQ IXzRZbFhWptrUhOpoIMQWLbsLs1NP8u/CRzms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xXMQKiQWk9i/ROt6wLqauJLHMivvmId7MT+nMz013iJiKnrCGWiVEiAxQ86s1f6IDD I5FiSIq2UJoaDQpdJToGJU4qYuhVKFS+7zyTZcjHLDcW8YQRIzIZFkgX4G3t4G9z76dT kzAISEhcCHGF8EAqZZL/AksiY8lG+aP7g5dZU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0906181245k10e7d682nd5c14c7d66652f99@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:21:39 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ot: In search of suggestions for odd stompboxes From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:29:28 +0000 (UTC) > Better than the Splicer? Dunno about that. Listen to the audio demos on the page I linked to. Some pretty cool stuff. I have the Adrenalinn I and I'm considering upgrading so I haven't got first hand experience with the III. Version I does some neat stuff, III sounds pretty whacked. > On 18 Jun 2009, at 21:00, Tony K wrote: > > Adrenalinn III > http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinn3/adrenalinn3.shtml > Beat synced AND randomized modulation fx. > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Rainer > Straschill wrote: > > Dear list, > so I've ever so slightly started to turn my back a little to blown-up > rack gear and complex computer systems and instead decided to fall in > love with stompboxes a little bit. > What I already have are mainly three delay pedals (DD20, SMM w/Hazari, > DL4) a few KAOSS Pads (yes, you can play them with your toes), and > then there's two of those guitar multi-effect thingies (Zoom G2.1u, > Line6 POD X3 Live), and a few really old simple things (Ibanez AW-1, > Boss OD-2). > So what I'm looking for is something that can do fairly normal things > if wanted, but can be used to completely odd, nonlinear, chaotic stuff > with the right settings - to wreak non-deterministic havoc on my loops > if needed. > Any suggestions with a short description? > Thanks, > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer > > > > > -- > -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- > Tony > > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 20:43:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1709B3BE7E; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:43:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1641 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:43:23 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zHfSfUrQ7SRuWg0hSuCELvtF8MnjWYt/g+HNyPRDvuE=; b=IzLAwA3Cr2XD10FGbv4VZnLXsqZlaVcPeX2dQVmyYD3s6+h4+DganBZQQ3z78wSh/B pv+f+cg8jaGtFvZvVaDItb5TwuJ0jlylP7bBLerubD/vhKjsi9HBrxA88RppAy7/p6EE X+zZokiYyVEXIOyoARxylPp+lxRSvzpmz3Qxs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Kqu1Vf4sbnHx5j6juWck4yb7eD5vdNyXP1OtDLbBtkcpvG6VXRqCncZlcY3aq07vb7 66JQ5hMdzvPx4EJAc4pFESweMj4cWydIpAMTwIheuYn8rXM1uxLQzqYrY10s8w1zsPb8 v4yIBstCP42UXbf+X+ho108GQdH9tHQvi3hXc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0906181245k10e7d682nd5c14c7d66652f99@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:16:01 -0500 Message-ID: <2871c3a90906181316j72675595ua992324dcf0695e5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ot: In search of suggestions for odd stompboxes From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <9Cktu.A.95.rbqOKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:43:24 +0000 (UTC) I don't know about the 'fairly normal' requirement (one man's normal...) but this thing just refuses to play nice: http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2007/02/10/inside-the-metasonix-tm-7-scro= tum-smasher/ Sylvain On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Matt Stevens wrote: > Better than the Splicer? > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > On 18 Jun 2009, at 21:00, Tony K wrote: > > Adrenalinn III > http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinn3/adrenalinn3.shtml > Beat synced AND randomized modulation fx. > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Rainer > Straschill wrote: > > Dear list, > so I've ever so slightly started to turn my back a little to blown-up > rack gear and complex computer systems and instead decided to fall in > love with stompboxes a little bit. > What I already have are mainly three delay pedals (DD20, SMM w/Hazari, > DL4) a few KAOSS Pads (yes, you can play them with your toes), and > then there's two of those guitar multi-effect thingies (Zoom G2.1u, > Line6 POD X3 Live), and a few really old simple things (Ibanez AW-1, > Boss OD-2). > So what I'm looking for is something that can do fairly normal things > if wanted, but can be used to completely odd, nonlinear, chaotic stuff > with the right settings - to wreak non-deterministic havoc on my loops > if needed. > Any suggestions with a short description? > Thanks, > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer > > > > > -- > -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- > Tony > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 18 23:40:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 219943BE78; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:40:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1245368436; bh=NJT3rA8WfFYjJuLLVb9OiSEzAqYv1EqEjLfEZzK8ax4=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=ANqw1btiaj6y+wmEy8dVDe75Xnkb4uHuLMQNFkc90FKtXPKaNuwG93mKXsjMLw7gg jGoCjv75PJ+OKPEzVTySvdZ9hRQNO7QMPyUCvzDRbMQGwG4cwSGv5ghKiwdkxH+hFL 4JlC2e0W8FPR7pxkcs/++sUOgTb7b+jH4kLNxOE4= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and Crossfade Loop Synth Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:40:21 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c9f06e$25a5c720$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcnrYB1vWb5bgTCSTtyO0NaVeaI0GQFCVE4g In-Reply-To: <4A3210C7.20104@tiscali.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:40:38 +0000 (UTC) The recent mini euro-tour was inspiring in many ways: playing live, = meeting friends, listening to create music...and I also learned a lot ;) One of = the things I deciced to do is changing a few things in my setup and also the = way to build up a composition. I've added now Augustus Loop, Little Spacy = and Crossfade Loop Synth as pre-looper effects on a Mainstage channel strip = and these are controlled by the Korg Nanocontrol.=20 What I especially like about this improved setup is the random feeling = it creates, a better flow etc. Here's the live improv I recorded tonight (11:30) with this setup. http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/18_Sleepers.mp3 Enjoy :) ---=20 Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20 http://euroloopfest.com/ From news@markvoxx.com Fri Jun 19 00:04:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 938 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:04:10 UTC Received: from mx.netcabo.pt (mx.netcabo.pt [212.113.174.24]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0103C3BE6F for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:03:58 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlYIAJNvOkpVi14p/2dsb2JhbACCKSshi2cBimWnUZABhAgFg00 Received: from a85-139-94-41.cpe.netcabo.pt (HELO DOMUS) ([85.139.94.41]) by neti03smtpa.hdi.tvcabo with ESMTP; 19 Jun 2009 00:48:01 +0100 From: "news@markvoxx.com" Subject: PRESSRELEASE MARK VOXX FEAT. 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--bEVcVwYFt6NnA=_uUTC7BhdSWDqZqZpqSC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 00:58:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 259A43BE73; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:58:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XeW1v8ckGAWq/CgALjIog317OJ4clQDjckJXq6ZWYZc=; b=UPW99CYFIMyX4nAYmX5V/7DcXt29WmribcfHs8pjDu7LtwE5OZISR74xJgDioDLGkc AilY7WgZvfSb9A9i6+W/SX7uJfZNFJcW7W6Ilvpos5E6ATT8sp/RQZRsuH+91XRQcI7j tDOV6B+1Wm8e9E3uWb+JUq2mJ5T2n1r7/w5V4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HSOSCO9z8FEaQ5P71VuIgKowudn54UoOSj5WvDbqraiv5Tcv9DulfhtgLl+O3crQBZ I9V3pk8HNkS3vu/j9/Z4Fs6QyGTASQxLjl0w4U2hckJFfA7WER47omKphX/M779e1PCg s1sq8f0RWwXTKRyNfVQUs06mQZk495ZoyRcJA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000001c9f06e$25a5c720$020313ac@PIPO> References: <4A3210C7.20104@tiscali.co.uk> <000001c9f06e$25a5c720$020313ac@PIPO> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:51:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and Crossfade Loop Synth From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:58:30 +0000 (UTC) 21 MB! ... ok, there i go ... crappy modem land. 2009/6/19, Sjaak : > > The recent mini euro-tour was inspiring in many ways: playing live, meeting > friends, listening to create music...and I also learned a lot ;) One of the > things I deciced to do is changing a few things in my setup and also the way > to build up a composition. I've added now Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and > Crossfade Loop Synth as pre-looper effects on a Mainstage channel strip and > these are controlled by the Korg Nanocontrol. > > What I especially like about this improved setup is the random feeling it > creates, a better flow etc. Here's the live improv I recorded tonight > (11:30) with this setup. > http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/18_Sleepers.mp3 Enjoy :) > > --- > Sjaak > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 02:53:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F0C33BE79; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1245379994; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=4ynhu8QFIowo6dDhJsu67jxxNi0=; b=BKqmZMGp8BzgTouHOgBgEoDik8TQcoaLZAIC9nxowfS+I/Y2XCd9lNpYYjep2tTd Tx9uRgg4BN6JgVuyJw9FcZFurZfS68mcJwLhw+q982BvO+NXUdtmbMNnZF8UYRN1; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=e_uNrbVCYEUA:10 a=mF24qx3TAAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=KdnF3d0AweDMZ3a9dmoA:9 a=z40tvFH7L0uPj-rLKCgyld4TaqkA:4 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002001c9f089$169a8160$30524d43@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0906181245k10e7d682nd5c14c7d66652f99@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: In search of suggestions for odd stompboxes Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:53:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:53:15 +0000 (UTC) I have really had a good time with my Alesis Modfx boxes, there seems to be no end of things you can do with them. I got 6 different ones and the Bitrman and Ampliton are my current faves but they all are amazing in there way. I have all but the Metavox. Of course they are not made anymore but I got a great package deal on them. http://www.sweetwater.com/feature/technotes/issue3-modfx/ my 2 cents, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 3:45 PM Subject: ot: In search of suggestions for odd stompboxes > Dear list, > > so I've ever so slightly started to turn my back a little to blown-up > rack gear and complex computer systems and instead decided to fall in > love with stompboxes a little bit. > > What I already have are mainly three delay pedals (DD20, SMM w/Hazari, > DL4) a few KAOSS Pads (yes, you can play them with your toes), and > then there's two of those guitar multi-effect thingies (Zoom G2.1u, > Line6 POD X3 Live), and a few really old simple things (Ibanez AW-1, > Boss OD-2). > > So what I'm looking for is something that can do fairly normal things > if wanted, but can be used to completely odd, nonlinear, chaotic stuff > with the right settings - to wreak non-deterministic havoc on my loops > if needed. > > Any suggestions with a short description? > > Thanks, > > Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 02:53:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CDFE3BE84; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:53:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yZ0carAPz4DRuVQAI2QVh7V2x3KRfPbptSN6cab0pXY=; b=UJaoXaWPV1aXhEy1cNKk8FU1k8JTk4IkzBxAbZ64602mZS5ltG8eVbH84I2RvCUjLs xNk1k4bssL3RrAc42mZ2apXOf2cIaCNr4xwdRnqd8T+X2Sij7xtxCKW/IhBVIwgPJRD3 FrsBwwD2fChALrwMnCvAQrRJfIquTgPGi8PgY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JSvjkI6h3z0dI6wHf0n+TVCmFGyISxxiOuwLiNNO/VMf9F292awgnNpX2arFCboAu3 yhTkCf8SaYitaZ9lp8D7itH64atTStnjJetSXkqNymannwjWcKKGbyMK1w3a0PsscgKG c3iU3CXqYr59TfmW9OF00OcCu7nY+ipDwXPHQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A3210C7.20104@tiscali.co.uk> <000001c9f06e$25a5c720$020313ac@PIPO> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:53:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and Crossfade Loop Synth From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6BQB8B.A.z2H.c2vOKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:53:16 +0000 (UTC) ... truly beautiful sjaak! emotive ... lovely bass notes ... is it all keys? 2009/6/19, Raul Bonell : > 21 MB! ... ok, there i go ... crappy modem land. > > 2009/6/19, Sjaak : >> >> The recent mini euro-tour was inspiring in many ways: playing live, >> meeting >> friends, listening to create music...and I also learned a lot ;) One of >> the >> things I deciced to do is changing a few things in my setup and also the >> way >> to build up a composition. I've added now Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and >> Crossfade Loop Synth as pre-looper effects on a Mainstage channel strip >> and >> these are controlled by the Korg Nanocontrol. >> >> What I especially like about this improved setup is the random feeling it >> creates, a better flow etc. Here's the live improv I recorded tonight >> (11:30) with this setup. >> http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast/18_Sleepers.mp3 Enjoy :) >> >> --- >> Sjaak >> http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ >> http://euroloopfest.com/ >> >> >> > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 03:11:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 292713BE80; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:14:35 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: octave shifter for winds To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <660m35p9m8b1e2pk8ois6ck18pfvvg7cda@4ax.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090618-0, 18/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:11:09 +0000 (UTC) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: octave shifter for winds =46rom: andy butler Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:43:00 +0100 >G wrote: >> Hi Sylvain >> I've been playing chromatic and diatonic harmonica through my Micro = POG >> for maybe 18 months now. I love it. The latency is fractional and >> opens up a world of effects the harp can sound good with. >> I've been told it generates the sub octave and octave up tones, rather >> than pitch shift the signal. Whatever it does, it's a smooth synth = kind >> of tone for harmonica and when you've got all three dials up and add >> plenty of reverb, it sounds like a reed organ. :) > :-) that sounds like fun. Harmonica doesn't really suit many effects compared to guitar or a synthesiser. But using harp with the Micro POG turns it into a synth like instrument - one of my favourite effects is stereo filter sequencer. >I thought the Micro Pog actually had quite noticeable latency just on >the pitch up octave. >I also didn't like the out of tuneness of the high octave, which >I guess is designed for "12 guitar string" sound. Ah! Initially I noticed the latency, but after a year and a half when I use high octave by itself, I find myself playing a little ahead of the beat. When I use the high octave by itself, it usually sounded best with some modulation effects after it. I didn't cotton on to it being slightly out of tune - this explains my experience. >It's essentially a harmoniser type algorithm with smaller >time slices than usual, and really good pitch tracking. I certainly like it more than the Boss OC2. >> I was going to save up and buy a second Micro POG, and really glad I >> didn't. I'll be closely watching reviews on the EH POG2, it has all = the >> features that I was interested in the POG and HOG, but a fraction of = the >> size, a better stronger enclosure, and similar price to the SMMH. >Ah...that sounds interesting The POG2 has a detune control for both the high octaves - I hope that when it's set to zero the high octaves are kept in tune. >thanx >andy Cheers, -- G. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 03:23:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D81BA3BE7F; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:23:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0906181245k10e7d682nd5c14c7d66652f99@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0906181245k10e7d682nd5c14c7d66652f99@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:23:31 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: ot: In search of suggestions for odd stompboxes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:23:38 +0000 (UTC) At 9:45 PM +0200 6/18/09, Rainer Straschill wrote: > >so I've ever so slightly started to turn my back a little to blown-up >rack gear and complex computer systems and instead decided to fall in >love with stompboxes a little bit. Beautiful, Rainer. Don't think you'll regret it. In the past, I've already suggested Devi Ever FX, so you can find that detail in the archives. Also, The Squarewave Parade puts out some bizarre and brilliant noiseboxes. You kind of have to check back on a regular basis, as Steven's interests change frequently so he may only put out, say, 10 copies of a given model. For example, a few weeks ago, he released a little utility box called the Bleak Blink which, when shaken/kicked, gave the same intermittent stuttery effect as a bad cable. A lot of his current energy right now is dedicated to the Teaspoon CAS, which is a granular/glitch effect (and a whole lot more) in a stompbox format. Since it seems you rather like delay lines, you might look at the Blackbox Quicksilver (now distributed by Ooh La La Manufacturing). It's a delay unit with a built-in external feedback loop. You can put whatever other stomps you like into the loop, which will then re-process every new iteration of the echo. If you scan through the stompbox pages at Analogue Haven, you'll find lots of different possibilities. Fuzz/distortion is the most popular category, it seems, but there's a lot of other stuff in there if you bother to dig. That's how I found my Audible Disease Junk-Fi Sampler a year or so ago. Looked good on paper, and, boy, is it strange in real life. Similarly, try the NoiseFX website. It's harder to navigate (not to mention that all the soundclips are focused solely on, er, noise) but it'll give you more ideas for research, and they will deal just as well in used boxes that may have missed their potential market (Dod Meatbox, etc.). Finally, you might also look at delving into circuit bending some of your existing stomps, or buying cheap crap boxes just to experiment on. You can also get some one-of-a-kind devices from "semi-pro" benders if you don't want to do the work yourself. I picked up a circuit bent Boss PS-2 from a builder/artist named Spunky Toofers, and it is one of the most bizarre/useful stomps I've ever had -- getting effects I previously thought only possible on a computer. Though with a little practice, you could easily roll your own. Good luck! --m. -- _____ "take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than one step..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 04:01:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEF9C3BE82; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:01:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1245384061; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=iS9TYuLI+/kOPnQM934wmVgwH2M=; b=o5IbjUpyJB5fx8oyXKAXnAS2TnRqIGrxfmnpdtWjWj88taNNRF60q96BmKJ9NktF 2kcm2mBEWZkhyWkZ/6keacHD4kahP392Qj6rsH3a7JdWZo51YNQC5ynzAe0077vb; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CUFxhf1aKmwA:10 a=x4wZDK30AAAA:8 a=GBhJk2peAAAA:8 a=UJNUvjAzAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=NAuPNqBD4j7g8PIPbo0A:9 a=-5YRLqRio5LIwXTciA4A:7 a=jER8H-nngW19yB2N3K8LnFIvh2MA:4 a=o5_cSospHp4A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000801c9f092$8e720ba0$30524d43@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0906181245k10e7d682nd5c14c7d66652f99@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ot: In search of suggestions for odd stompboxes Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:00:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <4g_kcC.A.TSD.91wOKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:01:01 +0000 (UTC) the Devi Ever site http://deviever.com/ has a great forum also. Including a section on DIY fx building and moding. I have not found the time to do some of this but want to. http://www.ilovefuzz.com/viewforum.php?f=151 J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mech" To: Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:23 PM Subject: Re: ot: In search of suggestions for odd stompboxes > At 9:45 PM +0200 6/18/09, Rainer Straschill wrote: >> >>so I've ever so slightly started to turn my back a little to blown-up >>rack gear and complex computer systems and instead decided to fall in >>love with stompboxes a little bit. > > Beautiful, Rainer. Don't think you'll regret it. > > In the past, I've already suggested Devi Ever FX, so you can find that > detail in the archives. > > Also, The Squarewave Parade puts out some bizarre and brilliant > noiseboxes. You kind of have to check back on a regular basis, as > Steven's interests change frequently so he may only put out, say, 10 > copies of a given model. > > For example, a few weeks ago, he released a little utility box called the > Bleak Blink which, when shaken/kicked, gave the same intermittent stuttery > effect as a bad cable. A lot of his current energy right now is dedicated > to the Teaspoon CAS, which is a granular/glitch effect (and a whole lot > more) in a stompbox format. > > Since it seems you rather like delay lines, you might look at the Blackbox > Quicksilver (now distributed by Ooh La La Manufacturing). It's a delay > unit with a built-in external feedback loop. You can put whatever other > stomps you like into the loop, which will then re-process every new > iteration of the echo. > > If you scan through the stompbox pages at Analogue Haven, you'll find lots > of different possibilities. Fuzz/distortion is the most popular category, > it seems, but there's a lot of other stuff in there if you bother to dig. > That's how I found my Audible Disease Junk-Fi Sampler a year or so ago. > Looked good on paper, and, boy, is it strange in real life. > > Similarly, try the NoiseFX website. It's harder to navigate (not to > mention that all the soundclips are focused solely on, er, noise) but > it'll give you more ideas for research, and they will deal just as well in > used boxes that may have missed their potential market (Dod Meatbox, > etc.). > > Finally, you might also look at delving into circuit bending some of your > existing stomps, or buying cheap crap boxes just to experiment on. You > can also get some one-of-a-kind devices from "semi-pro" benders if you > don't want to do the work yourself. I picked up a circuit bent Boss PS-2 > from a builder/artist named Spunky Toofers, and it is one of the most > bizarre/useful stomps I've ever had -- > getting effects I previously thought only possible on a computer. > > Though with a little practice, you could easily roll your own. > > Good luck! > > --m. > > -- > _____ > "take one step outside yourself. the whole path lasts no longer than one > step..." > From vizsga@auto-kanizsa.hu Fri Jun 19 04:37:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4450 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:37:13 UTC Received: from auto-kanizsa.hu (mail.auto-kanizsa.hu [195.228.227.98]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059C73BE72 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by auto-kanizsa.hu (Postfix, from userid 1038) id 8D4DE10054E0; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:34:01 +0200 (CEST) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received A Hallmark E-Card! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 06:34:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC98E3BE87; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A3B31EA.2030409@het.it> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:36:26 +0200 From: Massimo Liverani Reply-To: massimo User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Eno about record busines Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------040809070808090200000809" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090106-1, 06/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:34:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040809070808090200000809 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi, i'd like to insert me in this interesting discussion, excuse me for my bad english:
my opinion is that different audience react in different ways, in theese last years here in
Italy especially in Florence where i live i noticed a progressive loosing of interest about live shows.
Always more people got to the gig only to say to have been there and to talk with other people.
Nobody seemed to care on what was going on especially nobody seem to listen.
Once i saw a scene that i'd never willed to see: on famous musician was so annoyed by the chattings
that he stooped to play!
In opposite, once i played in Santa Cruz, there was not many people but all the audience
was very concentrated and the attention was high.
So different cultures react in different ways, maybe.
About live shows instead of this problems my opinion is that they are very important and peculiar
especially those of Live looping that every show is unique, so i feel to agree with Eno that music
is having a sort of transformation and the magic of a live gig becomes very important. Maybe more
than a perferct studio recording.

Massimo Liverani

looppool@cruzio.com ha scritto:

Mark Sottilaro wrote: "I'd go one step further than Dr. Eno and say that people don't even go to a show for the music or performance, but more often for the chance to be with a group of like-minded people. (and to drink beer and convince a member of the opposite sex to have sex with you) The music is an excuse." I think you may be correct about a lot of people, Mark, but I think it's very inaccurate to infer that all people have this motivation. I know a lot of people where I live who are great lovers of music and go to shows to see music being played. I'm certainly one of those people. At local indie rock shows at the Crepe Place (which has become a haven for touring Indie rock bands of note in Santa Cruz) I've noticed that the lion share of the audience is really attentive and obviously responding to specific musical events. It is also possible to get a beer buzz on, flirt with someone of the opposite sex AND actually listen to music, you know. And then, there are the plethora of music oriented shows at the Kuumbwa Jazz center and the various small venues that put on ethnic music and new music shows. Here, the lion share of the audiences are extremely concentrated on sound. Maybe SF is different, but I kind of doubt it.

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 07:00:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 032833BE77; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1245394828; bh=ruhV8yMPrujMVC+Ihashqc05aE/n8sD8L2Bq/hOj/iI=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=SGTPkx1jdDZBDnh0uDBQh6l6yQhKFevLQb46UlZVmQbEl8N4Zp16KSZBXcD566ciL ZPntQy+8l9GoCTRcaeVMBsyahdqlhhlRZRhKl1dEWwghFX3FXOGc0JCiu3nbeM2kpc PV2D7P6b2SmwSxlQaMs8hWDzwR/LvptudNadZP9g= Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:00:27 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and Crossfade Loop Synth MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:00:29 +0000 (UTC) > ... truly beautiful sjaak! > emotive ... lovely bass notes ... is it all keys? Hi Raul, Thanks. Yes, it's all done with plugins running in Mainstage. To be preci= se: - bells, synth pad: Native Instruments FM8 synth - piano, strings, contrabass, e-bow-guitar: Logic ESX sampler - pre-loopers: Little Spacy, Crossfade Loop Synth, Augustus Loop from Exp= ert Sleepers - reverbs and other FX: Logic - looper: LP1 --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ __________________________________ Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADS= L, surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 08:44:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EF563BE73; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nniAtKOUrd/TQgrTNp/bugxTxRgoSsOtv+mb+ZOUtPM=; b=GKBOUgR7V/q/mm+J6JUbmivw6Lzf0KxiXj8aqckHEKkJOj6OTBEW59HfR00ZJHbxB0 J4OTi9kvFgkrW3IQrt8enwkgmtEoaTRgADLsfTkrUC9umo3GkqvUfQ7tYFVo+T2mqHeC ZAB20cyKvUAeRk1RnXGFpi5JcoP/jot26QphE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=wmtILhN1LUlAtDM/L1DBRzZwNGb+vq0ZdYiAQdSEmj3IfdREqdRueWCAWKmu9GlgqW x2ZX7jJlOF2FCf+dMVnrXIYk/EZREll9NtsLhe8Bh1zKX08W2qdLCwV4HPZJ/UbNwe0s I4d91iN83opaUiYkuLlsJmXmqeN5Wv7eBiovg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0906181245k10e7d682nd5c14c7d66652f99@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0906181245k10e7d682nd5c14c7d66652f99@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:44:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ot: In search of suggestions for odd stompboxes From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f0380eb7e637046caf89e9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:44:54 +0000 (UTC) --001485f0380eb7e637046caf89e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "something that can do fairly normal things if wanted, but can be used to completely odd, nonlinear, chaotic stuff with the right settings" well the zvex fuzz factory certainly falls into this category. it's not as bonkers as some of the other stuff that's been suggested, but can produce a nice smooth fuzz tone as well as crazy octave jumps, superl lo-fi buzzy tones and it even self oscillates sim --001485f0380eb7e637046caf89e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "something that can do fairly normal things
if wanted, but can be used to completely odd, nonlinear, chaotic stuff
with the right settings"

well the zvex fuzz factory certainly f= alls into this category. it's not as bonkers as some of the other stuff= that's been suggested, but can produce a nice smooth fuzz tone as well= as crazy octave jumps, superl lo-fi buzzy tones and it even self oscillate= s

sim
--001485f0380eb7e637046caf89e9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 08:49:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E89D13BE77; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tiQ2LIkBQucw6J7WJ08OxZa8AzThRYuSHoTEb511Ajs=; b=eUPP+PmE7WZJWa3IgFrc4q5iU6OmwgQKaCk+UHAY8/YOYu7WWx+gFEeR/0chWPm9ic 7iWi1Jb4vU4R+Q2zw6E+etgsPyRCDxoTXE8BbYBe5f41LmEv0xTlqNFg/gmZMx9EaZzk kpU3vK10lDbeR6F8bvIfIERqWPnGayRYUtaWg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Yuth2dHq7xWcvTAESiL+CXja7cqYHafIX6bW8KMxaHcgPq/8f6MFtcDxw7PoX5CbA6 xQMVmgT1/1h1+YiNtBSLIXvW+BZ7p6bb5HuNDt2L9QqK8pb2/mV3nhWPhsix2Li18Dqk J3N4S6G5P2lvnOOb3i0Qz7XJ83VPuBqEvqmMU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:49:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and Crossfade Loop Synth From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f726fc7ef8c1046caf9be7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC) --001485f726fc7ef8c1046caf9be7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wow...stunning! what's producing the pitch shifted delays? sim On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Sjaak wrote: > > ... truly beautiful sjaak! > > emotive ... lovely bass notes ... is it all keys? > > Hi Raul, > Thanks. Yes, it's all done with plugins running in Mainstage. To be > precise: > - bells, synth pad: Native Instruments FM8 synth > - piano, strings, contrabass, e-bow-guitar: Logic ESX sampler > - pre-loopers: Little Spacy, Crossfade Loop Synth, Augustus Loop from > Expert Sleepers > - reverbs and other FX: Logic > - looper: LP1 > > --- > Sjaak > http://euroloopfest.com/ > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > > > __________________________________ > Scarlet Mobile, Gratis abonnement in combinatie met uw Scarlet One of ADSL, > surf naar http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mobile3g > > > --001485f726fc7ef8c1046caf9be7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wow...stunning!

what's producing the pitch shifted delays?

sim

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote:

> ... truly beautiful sjaak!
> emotive ... lovely bass notes ... is it all keys?

Hi Raul,
Thanks. Yes, it's all done with plugins running in Mainstage. To be precise:
- bells, synth pad: Native Instruments FM8 synth
- piano, strings, contrabass, e-bow-guitar: Logic ESX sampler
- pre-loopers: Little Spacy, Crossfade Loop Synth, Augustus Loop from Expert Sleepers
- reverbs and other FX: Logic
- looper: LP1

---
Sjaak
http://euroloopfest.com/
http://sjaakovergaauw.com/

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Well, Sjaak only mentioned one device that does that; the Crossfade Loop Synth. So either it is that or it is the FM8 bell patch. HOw does that guess score, Sjaak? Very pleasant music BTW! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 09:22:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 327CF3BE72; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:22:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1245403372; bh=D+5dbb5EjQiKBegDxWsxxG7tc+i6MFyNSLc/oeYVtEY=; h=Date:Message-Id:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:To; b=C71dkBRPdoObB1ky1ybjJzR6xCB3DQGyORimRSTv61GTpBcsj691ihFzBz+RHur0J j5yCdicKHPJz9sLFaq9Q6/NInJUYuGfxVItC/uAWp2Y4EnPXYO4NLx6h7dONnhTgvV qrcO/wF+djKpLa55Tl6U2/A8JUc/KYfSFNp3V/q8= Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:22:52 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and Crossfade Loop Synth MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:22:54 +0000 (UTC) > Well, Sjaak only mentioned one device that does that; the Crossfade > Loop Synth. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 12:23:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4C313BE78; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=QErM9Q32VgMhEGMmMVsscuI61Sunk/0bD515mX3/6yk=; b=YJl+3auZYUE/wctFnso4pp7qRHG0mZhoETWuMgwCjT6cS82ipbkGOl3GIJjO4atpEx DtzGURfPvDQYK648KMUIa948n/lgya82eComTLjpc3T9Zjiy1r383nyXFCJl59ZkDbYP 6ZblmsV/EAbrjdPaVCdphYgjwDEARj9gi4A3Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=Yey5TpiAE12mzbiclX9XR3gWmU36fLibU7R7TbUKwrE1jby8Vu4FKqImMB1LZmTrDO bNg8/7jZp9QSUXQyJDvIRetqMKo/59D4XpQdEUCnbmPpGgOGhy2jqeWsbos3KGwZwqNJ rrEcjZpwAVk8X8uWFsZr/CjK8/IiyFjFKPCd8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:23:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and Crossfade Loop Synth From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f1e78eec08be046cb29861 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:23:53 +0000 (UTC) --001485f1e78eec08be046cb29861 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nice - thanks for the info! i love the lp-1's ability to play synced and unsynced loops simultanously....definitely helps to keep things getting too static i've got the old free version of crossfade...i might download the demo of the new version (already bought augustus, meringue and warbler this month!) sim On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Sjaak wrote: > > wow...stunning! > > Hi Sim, > What I learned from the recent festivals when performing live is that I ran > out of ideas too quikly and that I ended up with compositions which were too > static or took too long before they would become interesting. So I've been > thinking about this for a couple of weeks and I've been experimenting with > the way I was using my pre-loopers. The general flow is still the same as > before: > > --001485f1e78eec08be046cb29861 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nice - thanks for the info!

i love the lp-1's ability to play sy= nced and unsynced loops simultanously....definitely helps to keep things ge= tting too static

i've got the old free version of crossfade...i = might download the demo of the new version (already bought augustus, mering= ue and warbler this month!)

sim

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:27 PM,= Sjaak <tcplugi= n@scarlet.be> wrote:
> wow...stunning!

Hi Sim,
What I learned from the recent festivals when performing live is that I ran= out of ideas too quikly and that I ended up with compositions which were t= oo static or took too long before they would become interesting. So I'v= e been thinking about this for a couple of weeks and I've been experime= nting with the way I was using my pre-loopers. The general flow is still th= e same as before:

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 12:47:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A58D93BE77; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:47:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iYcSmPqFw17E4REMDo76zl9mZ/4o2y22RRTJoFtZBvE=; b=tOaOkBqdFKo+UCtX3pDAX5piz+kOjOvd+sARQonAcY1G80ur/o2gjBpMSPRETB0NmY Q1wzscP64pWihhIIj99FNi+KN5fF7n765KIlko5Z5E+sOY3Zd+eB03fsAs1Kf/ezB2g3 pR4xGxF7AKyRJwu1+k1r+cB3vQPqqGRjm50pA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qk9Lp0oR3Q0xyP8mOcve3xGHS2evREwYeqyWm+7e3PIzGztMCwUZuII30XCC79sgdA ywlgD0VQR+OtgMnFfKBpDIgiu3cNojeTTWyP3lTx3tXXZCDKPYyc9Z8SCNqs1ZlGVg4G 5t1cZ7bLRorQZJIzCGDlCO/pXFp7UbJ4bUpBk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:47:57 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906190547uae156ahd2ba07a736b16988@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and Crossfade Loop Synth From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:47:57 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > what's producing the pitch shifted delays? Actually, that kind of effect sound can be set up by signal routing in any host app (or cable spaghetti on the stage floor if using hardware): - From the source sound channel, send signal (by an aux send knob) to effect channel A. - On effect channel A; open a pitch shifter and a delay set to only wet/fx through-put. Order doesn't matter. From this effect channel, send signal (by an aux send knob) to effect channel B (but keep effect channel A's output going to the master sum output. - On effect channel B; send signal (by an aux send knob) back to effect channel A (thus creating a feedback loop that passes through the delay and pitch shifter). I've done this trick from the early eighties by using a rack mountable harmonizer plus digital delay, then in a rack mountable Eventide Eclipse as well as TC Electronix FireworX and in recent times inside software as Logic, Ableton Live and Bidule. Plug-ins like Expert-Sleeper's Cross Fade Loop Synth and SoundToy's Crystallizer already include the typical signal path above. It's more fun to set up the complete signal addressing system from scratch, but if you decide to do that you really have to make sure the delay unit is not set to let through dry signal - or you might fry your ears or audio interface with in-the-box audio feedback. Per From honlap@szig.sopron.hu Fri Jun 19 13:03:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from szerver5.szechenyi-sopron.sulinet.hu (szerver5.szechenyi-sopron.sulinet.hu [195.199.197.189]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0CC4E3BE70 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:03:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by szerver5.szechenyi-sopron.sulinet.hu (Postfix, from userid 1012) id 80FBF1DFA6C; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:52:11 +0200 (CEST) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received A Hallmark E-Card! From: hallmark.com Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090619125211.80FBF1DFA6C@szerver5.szechenyi-sopron.sulinet.hu> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:52:11 +0200 (CEST)

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 20:13:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7428A3BE71; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 52302 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:13:14 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:10:50 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: 06.20.09 A high energy evening --Doctor T and Dennis Warren's Quantum Quartet Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be doing a high energy show at 119 Gallery in Lowell with Dennis Warren's FMRJE Quantum Quartet. Acid, Out, Jazz, Funk, and, of course, Video. Michael Shea-electric keyboard, David Warren-electric bass, Dennis Warren-drums/timbales Martin Gil percussion. at the lovely 119 Gallery 119 Chelmsford St Lowell, MA 01851 8:30 PM http://www.119gallery.org/ Culinary note: There is an outstanding Cambodian restaurant next door to the gallery. -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 21:42:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CC7A3BE78; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:42:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_4495b3ce-49a1-44bc-b966-81d6fee8513b_" X-Originating-IP: [98.234.24.5] From: samba - To: Subject: RE: Maestro Ali Akbar Khan April 14, 1922 - June 18, 2009 Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:41:59 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1141372352420601561@jngomktg.net> References: <1141372352420601561@jngomktg.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jun 2009 21:42:00.0533 (UTC) FILETIME=[C6EE5850:01C9F126] Resent-Message-ID: <5pZxSB.A.U1E.pYAPKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:42:01 +0000 (UTC) --_4495b3ce-49a1-44bc-b966-81d6fee8513b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Maestro Ali Akbar Khan April 14=2C 1922 - June 18=2C 2009 From: aliakbar@jangomail.net Date: Fri=2C 19 Jun 2009 21:26:02 +0000 To: sambacomet@hotmail.com =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Maestro Ali Akbar Khan April 14=2C 1922 - June 18th=2C 2009 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Swara Samrat Maestro Ali Akbar Khan April 14=2C 1922 =96 June 18=2C 2009 =20 Our most beloved Khansahib passed away peacefully=2C surrounded by his family on Thursday evening. 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Swara Samrat Maestro Ali Akbar Khan
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Our most beloved Khansahib passed away peacefully=2C surrounded by his family on Thursday evening. =3B Khansahib had been a dialysis patient since 2004=2C and had been enduring numerous health issues ever since. =3B The great Maestro had continued his music teachings publically at the Ali Akbar College until just weeks ago=2C and continued to teach music at home until the day he died. =3B

The memorial service and burial will be held at Mt. Tamalpais Cemetary (2500 5th Ave=2C San Rafael=2C CA 94901)=2C Sunday=2C June 21st a= t noon=2C followed by a gathering at the AACM. =3B Due to the overwhelming amount of phone calls=2C please send all correspondence via email to inmemoryofaak@gmail= .com . =3B
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= --_4495b3ce-49a1-44bc-b966-81d6fee8513b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 22:20:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 860533BE73; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:20:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:20:56 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20090619222056.226460@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: OT: Thomas-Rasset vs. RIAA To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/b/Kwex9XbtL46snxnjLgcdIwBlo75iPF4dOuulM o7uT0qEJN8O9WzR4uMB6FsVwdasDS82j3FvA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: KWNXIj8NTlI8c8F+jGlrL9JOU2poZVl7 X-FuHaFi: 0.57 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:20:59 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks I just read in disbelief: "A federal jury Thursday found a 32-year-old Minnesota woman guilty of illegally downloading music from the Internet and fined her $80,000 each -- a total of $1.9 million -- for 24 songs." http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/18/minnesota.music.download.fine/ Ok, it was probably stupid of her to pretend she did not download anything. But still - with 2Mio.$ there is something terribly wrong here... In recent years, I kind of felt inclined to buy less and less major label music. I often prefer to get music from people I know personally or I see on gigs, most of them are not major label. There is a lot of Indie music out there to keep me happy for quite a while. It seems to me that major labels are forgetting one important thing: It's supposed to be FUN to buy & listen your favorite music. But I don't enjoy it so much anymore with all these stories... I won't be reading any mails this week-end - still, felt like writing this. Am I the only one who finds these news disturbing? best regards Buzap -- GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate und Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 22:36:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA7B43BE75; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:36:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 402 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:36:08 UTC Message-ID: <20090619171037.oc1936gyta8occkw@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:10:37 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: State of sound in Linux not so sorry after all MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: <9Iaw4B.A.LrG.YLBPKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:36:08 +0000 (UTC) An interesting article for those interested in the topic. http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-of-sound-in-linux-not-so-sorry.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 22:48:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E2F93BE7E; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1245451733; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=S9x7RrO5lvG8bBOA2wV8YyJdfQI=; b=lmary/jgocL3eRsTPSVDuMEmTU/1EAKyGeHyPBjbxAoPRzLCjluQbYMR/tPm7yy4 t4IKNcwHhxlQaijDF3uOUF62fgGkwMAtreLYDjtLKUv9p/hcKGv5obhbdiXmcueT; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CU0hFBXcAAAA:8 a=hPoJL0YCAAAA:8 a=VVlED5B4AAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=HgbDHJuKAAAA:8 a=npEdY0Grn_xpmb87KIEA:9 a=HeGN80xLXdCqCaKK6tiTMpccAtsA:4 a=BFDKbZatV3MA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=ZmhTvXKXKvnBV890:21 a=JwLqSoyQJ5kgyfcx:21 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000801c9f130$1eba4d60$30524d43@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <20090619222056.226460@gmx.net> Subject: OT: Re: Thomas-Rasset vs. RIAA Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:48:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:48:54 +0000 (UTC) That seems absurd to me. Apparently she was sharing on a P2P network. There's more on this here: http://www.zeropaid.com/news/86457/jammie-thomas-fined-1-92-million-for-sharing-24-songs/ And a lot more on it here: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/06/jammie-thomas-retrial-verdict.ars best, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buzap Buzap" To: Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 6:20 PM Subject: OT: Thomas-Rasset vs. RIAA > Hi folks > > I just read in disbelief: > "A federal jury Thursday found a 32-year-old Minnesota woman guilty of > illegally downloading music from the Internet and fined her $80,000 > each -- a total of $1.9 million -- for 24 songs." > http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/18/minnesota.music.download.fine/ > > Ok, it was probably stupid of her to pretend she did not download > anything. But still - with 2Mio.$ there is something terribly wrong > here... > > In recent years, I kind of felt inclined to buy less and less major label > music. I often prefer to get music from people I know personally or I see > on gigs, most of them are not major label. There is a lot of Indie music > out there to keep me happy for quite a while. > It seems to me that major labels are forgetting one important thing: It's > supposed to be FUN to buy & listen your favorite music. But I don't enjoy > it so much anymore with all these stories... > > I won't be reading any mails this week-end - still, felt like writing > this. Am I the only one who finds these news disturbing? > > best regards > Buzap > -- > GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate und Telefonanschluss > für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 23:08:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39D063BE77; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:08:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=a7DK1ShPX90O0w+A61PMn7PnaNNw2U2GbSM+mLyhDVE=; b=Jk1Wg4dVLlvQuTZn9PBBQv7m40QVsP8lHEh97bcdMyJdp+NtPq+yeZrlmvpj8TPYlu gF+cqesWoza1oEr6K9xRhKP6Bba0Z2A6P9AQY1iH0AeRNZb/+eeOLfE9SRuTSzdcFSiV 2Lo2rRRo0kS0VonXhOZ1KrqHPVVMNv6GULwHo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lTVO1f6BrXa0nhJoZJcbErV2O1YeUHlGQp8xZA/+5RZSF/saDUQqde9LbYOTrHqNKG JRt5S6UcvWY6LzmxjKVV74ZtRP1vUWkl4b0QTTMMgkEcc5b9FAn1CagDYnUcLVjv05c1 o3Oa012G4Up4rW/RJajQV008GvlQnR4AQefh4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A3AA0CD.7080200@tiscali.co.uk> References: <7334ca1b0906181245k10e7d682nd5c14c7d66652f99@mail.gmail.com> <4A3AA0CD.7080200@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:05:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ot: In search of suggestions for odd stompboxes From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1_r3FB.A.Ax.spBPKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:08:28 +0000 (UTC) I think if someone put a pile of money in front of me and said "go crazy" I'd probably get most everything Electro-harmonix makes at the moment as well as their 2880 looper of days gone by. Probably pick up a few Moog pedals as well, and for fun... well they're not pedals, but I'd probably get the family of Electrix stuff as well. Some of the Boss dual pedals like the gigadelay would be nice to own again as well, though there's not a day that goes by that I miss mine. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 19 23:27:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4CBF3BE7F; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:30:57 +1200 From: G Subject: Re: ot: In search of suggestions for odd stompboxes To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090619-0, 19/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rainer +1 for the Adrenalinn 3! Fantastic unit. From clean & subtle to whacked out crazy. Even better with a midi foot controller. I avoided multiFX for years before finding this last year. Lots of great modulation effects, from subtle autopanning to sequenced filter. The sequenced tremolo is more versatile than the slicer... well okay, the Ad3 has mono input and slicer has stereo input - but you can program your own sequences over two measures. Random flanger is loads of fun. the amp(with booster), compressor & modulation order can be moved around. Followed by delay & reverb. Tony K - I think it's definitely worth the upgrade to 3.0.3 The amp sims are apparently a lot better than I or II, and=20 the unit is more versatile. The previous owner upgraded mine from II to 3.0.0. I upgraded it to 3.0.3 and very happy with it. Cheers, -- G. To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: ot: In search of suggestions for odd stompboxes =46rom: Rainer Straschill Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:45:23 +0200 >Dear list, >so I've ever so slightly started to turn my back a little to blown-up >rack gear and complex computer systems and instead decided to fall in >love with stompboxes a little bit. >What I already have are mainly three delay pedals (DD20, SMM w/Hazari, >DL4) a few KAOSS Pads (yes, you can play them with your toes), and >then there's two of those guitar multi-effect thingies (Zoom G2.1u, >Line6 POD X3 Live), and a few really old simple things (Ibanez AW-1, >Boss OD-2). >So what I'm looking for is something that can do fairly normal things >if wanted, but can be used to completely odd, nonlinear, chaotic stuff >with the right settings - to wreak non-deterministic havoc on my loops >if needed. >Any suggestions with a short description? >Thanks, > Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 20 06:15:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2807A3BE73; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <4A3AB348.8010407@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:36:08 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:15:46 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on the Ricochet Gathering. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk 3 of 4 from "La Gomera" on the Ricochet Dream label. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#jun Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 20 12:23:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EC383BE71; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:23:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1245500630; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=qR1c7gQVI96N1KDBPXl4bAqlnZU=; b=p9AVdr6q6K1/G5EHIStQbW0gQbMhNXialAiT1i0wq674EGvdLm2c4eglumjluGpm 8sZDZLlgCwm7MBsO+87w0rIH6RS5bRvz4eWhd/nQ8oR1/HEGXjLzMCChDUARHa8r; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=MZwQBe6CAAAA:8 a=3OA-0-m0AAAA:20 a=uVC2ey1_ol6mtrWxl2oA:9 a=3vM8dezhRs7F6xS9t4uedf4whRUA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000401c9f1a1$f7526290$30524d43@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: gig spam Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:23:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:23:51 +0000 (UTC) the show scheduled on justin.tv has been moved due to tech problems with justin! It will now be at : http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents 12:00 noon EST US - 5:00 PM GMT For your local times see this chart: http://tinyurl.com/l4ykw4 I am broacasting nonstop because I am afraid I will not get ustream back up. I will drop in a new loop every so often:) The show must go on...sorry for any inconvenience best, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 20 14:45:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 705863BE77; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=jfg9EUZ5/kLd949XkS5k1cZEBPNibix9ciBagEsq7SM=; b=IN+l9BsZau8zUk9NSKXgvlIJuJTVzCZIMkroNstidxl7muIYMkEqqkeXK9F1C58xEA oAJV/E2c0MOOrAc30830PaI3GSjF7Q7LcZ9FrAmUM/6PWrvHT5uw09GL57EKY3SeiGn0 8IOY2qOi//Wkj5ndSyIVMuc8gCjsF+u6EiGa4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=S37iA/n8bviS8hyCLW90KFkESfKfZd4qHdih599IbDqCJN6KYkL+cJHgR02x5R7HyQ RCTM8lXiPfdtPGsBVmlRli46I2ZNspXuUfCVyOfCQbAu2KHcux0EtkGqEsI0tmVPy6Ru PnJrqT/QxxpxPzvwCwOvIUU/KsOlFtINg6nZY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:45:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Gear for sale: EH, Line 6, Electrix etc. From: Nick Schillace To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ef3d2c042bf046cc8b07e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:45:22 +0000 (UTC) --0016364ef3d2c042bf046cc8b07e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI all- I've been off the list for quite sometime but was a longtime member years ago (i have the first 2 t-shirts to proove it!) I'm getting ready to post a significant amount of gear on ebay but thought maybe some of you would be interested in it first. Most of it i'm listing as "best offer" so feel free to make one. i'm taking pictures and getting it ready to go up tonight or tomorrow morning. if anyone is interested please contact me off list- nick schillace 248)391-4545 (detroit) www.orionmusicstudio.com americansketch@gmail.com Line 6 Filter Pro (no manual/box) 150 or Best offer Line 6 Echo Pro (manual/box) 350 B/O Electrix Mo-FX (manual/box) 150 B/O Electrix Filter Factory 200 B/O Lexicon Vortex (manual,FS, expression pedal, no box) 150 B/O original Electro Harmonix POG (box, manual) 200 B/O Electro Harmonix Holiest Grail (box, manual) 250 B/o Behringer 16 Channel Eurorack MX 2642A (box,manual) 200 B/O Rocktron G612 Line Mixer (super rare, needs inputs cleaned,no box/manual) 150 B/O MOTU 2408 MKII with PCI 324 AND PCI 424 (works with G5) (manual,box) 250 B/O --0016364ef3d2c042bf046cc8b07e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI all-

I've been off the list for quite sometime bu= t was a longtime member years ago (i have the first 2 t-shirts to proove it= !)

I'm getting ready to post a significant amo= unt of gear on ebay but thought maybe some of you would be interested in it= first. Most of it i'm listing as "best offer" so feel free t= o make one. i'm taking pictures and getting it ready to go up tonight o= r tomorrow morning.

if anyone is interested please contact me off list-

nick schillace
248)391-4545 (detroit)
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www.orionmusicstudio.com

americansketch@gmail.com

Line 6 Filter Pro (no manual/box= ) 150 or Best offer
Line 6 Echo Pro (manual/box) 350 B/O
Electrix Mo-FX (manual/box) 150 B/O
Electrix Filter Factory 200 B= /O
Lexicon Vortex (manual,FS, expression pedal, no box) 150 B/O
original Electro Harmonix POG (box, manual) 200 B/O
Electro Harmonix Holiest Grail (box, manual) 250 B/o
Behringer 16= Channel Eurorack MX 2642A (box,manual) 200 B/O
Rocktron G612 Lin= e Mixer (super rare, needs inputs cleaned,no box/manual) 150 B/O
MOTU 2408 MKII with PCI 324 AND PCI 424 (works with G5) (manual,box) 250 B/= O
--0016364ef3d2c042bf046cc8b07e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 20 15:20:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 065D03BE75; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jD1+bmZiBpBjnKQHYYOm9VFcFvSXrypjWowk4KryY5Q=; b=SK1/zQOxfOZWy+CWpLAW+EqpU0dPbiMlOBJFdhE1bp1awzEx7e6uHlgg0BnC5DntHr knMg+41gjFEOVclPzUb19dBFvKaXrYMtvWsHZBrywJgWo608TjHVYmJhsEWRbAWKPQGS FSFM+kwvf1ZVepPVskvsZdqamdIz4g2JVaVLg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=eQ6aW2HkkY2MP6DoGTuFnJwzEfRY/7CiML8BFbKEEwGKHyEFjK+bZvJ2DH7yoznWB4 N3HXCht3Rs1hRFmCdCuhZhlV5z7plFn/rsAQ0f5bHtcwxwDREgkeDoPIy8tZtUv8iFvM qQ/9O2PLCR5QzXijSluZEHSXfnT/BlJsmI9mY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:20:54 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906200820y756c3d8fw711196c03099eb15@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Sounds and pictures from Blekinge Jazz & World Music 2009. Live Looping workshops all week long! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5ygwiC.A.3OE.W5PPKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:20:54 +0000 (UTC) http://bit.ly/gphR1 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 20 17:48:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 563DC3BE78; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:48:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: <20090620152055.92F723BE79@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: OT: RIP AAK Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:48:02 -0700 Message-ID: <5B88157739C44A3DB7622EF5F203D5BC@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01C9F194.98F0EDF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <20090620152055.92F723BE79@arsenic.violacea.com> Thread-Index: AcnxurWdp6RgJAFFSV2PsxmItlGdIAADJP7A Resent-Message-ID: <-B6qgC.A.YTG.ZDSPKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:48:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C9F194.98F0EDF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's very sad to hear of the passing of Ali Akbar Khan, Though I never had the privilege of studying with him, I know several musicians who have, and the level of respect and love they had for the man was unparalleled. He was a genius musician who devoted his life to sharing his knowledge, and fostering the creativity and genius in others. There is a lovely record I used to own, he did with the late sax player John Handy that has the most lyrical playing, and both musicians play with such sweet tone, and sensitivity. I can't even remember the name of the album but I can still hear and play some of the melodies from it. Anyone know which record I'm talking about? I was reading the San Francisco Chronicle Obituary today that his father , and Sarod master/ teacher) at some point in his tutelage gave him the title Swara Samrat, which means Emperor of Melody. Indeed he was. Namaste Khansahib Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C9F194.98F0EDF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It’s very sad to hear of the = passing of Ali Akbar Khan, Though I never had the privilege of studying with = him, I know several musicians who have, and the level of respect and love they = had for the man was unparalleled. He was a genius musician who devoted his life = to sharing his knowledge, and fostering the creativity and genius in = others. There is a lovely record I used to own, he did with the late sax player John = Handy that has the most lyrical playing, and both musicians play with such = sweet tone, and sensitivity. I can’t even remember the name of the album but I = can still hear and play some of the melodies from it. Anyone know = which record I’m talking about? I was reading the San Francisco = Chronicle Obituary today that his father , and Sarod master/ teacher) at some point in his = tutelage gave him the title Swara Samrat, which means Emperor of Melody. =

Indeed he = was.

Namaste Khansahib =

Bill

------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C9F194.98F0EDF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 20 20:24:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 078233BE6F; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:24:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A3D4574.7030601@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:24:20 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:24:32 +0000 (UTC) Per suggested, amongst other things, the SoundToy's Crystallizer plugin. I was curious so I looked it up. They are charging $350 for a plugin that uses a single effect from an earlier 80's version of an Eventide Harmonizer. Doesn't that seem extremely overpriced or is it just me? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 20 21:21:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0148A3BE73; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:21:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1245532871; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=RqY/gW+1tfNL6i/dZA9rVF81LgA=; b=Zui6520ohOpVdn5WA+G0Zh6AU07I7gMKEI05L7y22NTEg6PpL7j6l+Q8kqwHsV/Q Y66C7wHlGuGtNCvDxLg8Z9o13Rz+15ES8ZUK69oBnamYIg34S4QzOn/RQ3EOeSmH; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=7hCPSqayAAAA:8 a=WnzYjt4fAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=aFlrjaMrHxmsooiukGgA:9 a=UxJ6oHKhFjkj1o2aCCR0jBhOxPAA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000501c9f1ed$0825d4d0$30524d43@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: Gig Spam and Ninjam Tv Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:21:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:21:11 +0000 (UTC) I got through the gig allright after Justin.tv had a server crash I built a Ustream channel this morning and it worked pretty well. Thanks to Ted, Dennis, Suzi, Eric and Ninjam Tv for coming out. I screwed up at the end and didn't save the show for myself. However quite a bit is on Ninjam Tv at http://ninjamers.ning.com/ in the "On Demand" section. It has about all of the running loops that I was doing before the show and a looped Mr Coffee. It does have a good bit of my noodling also. Visuals by Andy over at Ninjammers. He has come up with some kind of video chopping program. Pretty wild. Check it out and say hi to the NJ gang. I'll be doing it again in two weeks. peace out, Jeff "Before, you are wise, after, you are wise. In between, you are otherwise."_ancient Fravoshi saying http://jeffduke.org/ http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://ninjamers.ning.com/profile/JeffDuke From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 20 23:24:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2EBE3BE75; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:24:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 412 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:24:39 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Sv2Ov9q4/wj8rPaL+E2hloJvzwo9oxfvP9uik30jukU=; b=Bm0pprWqptHJm7mHj8sGIaXfEAmEgV+hriiIjk48A3KLqqnR/pqQ0gQHQ4R1dPgCQc E2J7ocqeCJ5g22BcVgxkaU9aGgTUC66KTSgzIpRQKaBsk8ZUMSg6hEQ4eHBhRzye9dj3 LgoGnCPZZyUPpV5zyLVx3CGyU/j9zfq4FNRXM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Z8QvnhL4he7VtUJRME3NUmbbhsx3dgsi/2Ya8YZ54JPAGrQ1Ih3dEJDEVJeLc0IN/n A9z5TLe22KaK/qF3Mt6tkI6sH4fgLXNrPunqlq35SG/8H9s4ncgFmHwRAefw9DTfxYtM n6MvDkp7Rk3U/n4lTj7bLDLz1Gxpu6eynlKd0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A3D4574.7030601@cruzio.com> References: <4A3D4574.7030601@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:17:46 -0400 Message-ID: <9ea2f30b0906201617r51582a74tfb6077cf1b0f7af@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e1fe74cf24c046ccfd923 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:24:39 +0000 (UTC) --0016368e1fe74cf24c046ccfd923 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think overpriced and I know the Soundtoys collection needs an ilok usb key to work so I assume that the crystallizer by itself would also need the ilok key. I demo'ed the soundtoys and they sound great but I only have 2 usb's on my macbook white, those are used up in my looping setup and I thought if I was ever willing to spend 500 for plug-ins that money could go a lot further elsewhere. I was only really interested in the echo boy plug but that is also 350 if you buy it seperately from the collection. This is an unrelated plug-in to the Crystallizer but I'm demoing 'More Feedback Machine 2' right now from U-he because I'm testing out different delays. It sounds awesome, and it's 79 bucks. Todd Matthews On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Per suggested, amongst other things, the SoundToy's Crystallizer plugin. > > I was curious so I looked it up. They are charging $350 for a plugin > that > uses a single effect from an earlier 80's version of an Eventide > Harmonizer. > > Doesn't that seem extremely overpriced or is it just me? > > --0016368e1fe74cf24c046ccfd923 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0I think overpriced and I know the Soundtoys collection needs an ilok usb= key to work so I assume that the crystallizer by itself would also need th= e ilok key. I demo'ed the soundtoys and they sound great but I only hav= e 2 usb's on my macbook white,=A0 those are used up in my looping setup= and I thought if I was ever willing to spend 500 for plug-ins that money c= ould go a lot further elsewhere. I was only really interested in the echo b= oy plug but that is also 350 if you buy it seperately from the collection.<= br>
This is an unrelated plug-in to the Crystallizer but I'm demoing &#= 39;More Feedback Machine 2' right now from U-he because I'm testing= out different delays. It sounds awesome, and it's 79 bucks.

Todd Matthews

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at= 4:24 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
Per suggested, amongst other things, =A0the SoundToy's Crystallizer plu= gin.

I was curious so I looked it up. =A0 =A0 =A0They are charging $350 for a = =A0plugin that
uses a single effect from an earlier 80's version of an Eventide Harmon= izer.

Doesn't that seem extremely overpriced or is it just me?

--0016368e1fe74cf24c046ccfd923-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 21 00:54:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 901813BE73; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 00:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t1yXx3lCfw72Q+Qr9NNIQWeCMJMFj7LbZdA2FUDINbg=; b=RGbxWNEIrroXjMCAjkp7Sm0Nkdq+dovgwbhMxhJI7+2tW2HRAkJmJN+0XfsxWhfBF9 mE+Se4dBqNXNY0xe5D7VjjEL1yY6cJeig+bWBkP2wCw73VqV/yGy8JMqWFtAFgrqoQrx tx0t+s3JM317SGWFABkGnuMvIQSHYqQgXYhgw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=h/dbzryu6q9loVvBWfoTMqw7MyfTgEmfp+eII0CRAvA4/YiuSksI9bLyUsw9FG3LC1 tybTLWunw3INdhW8+xqTE/oix/zaiHOi2SqHvPGk9aCjITuXFmU1fsliTwZCoC2I5tmB AhsgDTz9Tu/RdS0jpZqAEy6Os5t1Wxhk6xd2w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:54:10 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906201754k405ba11fr42aadb68ec98bc71@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ot: In search of suggestions for odd stompboxes From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 00:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Dear list, thanks to all of you who replied to my question for "odd stompboxes" - and it seems there are some recurring suggestions. However, I'd like to trim my requirements more sharply, and also comment on some of the suggestions: 1. distortion/fuzz (mainly ZVEX suggestions): I'm not so much the distortion guy. Which also has to do with the fact that they tend not to work too well post-loop with stuff which isn't a monophonic guitar or something like it. Of course, I'm to blame myself for getting all these suggestions - for saying "nonlinear" in my initial message. I was more looking into the "unexpected behaviour" corner here, not so much into the "clip the input signal until it's square" one. 2. beat-synced stuff (like Adrenalinn, Boss Slicer): I forgot to mention that I also have a Nord Micromodular at my disposal. This is great for all of these things (already built a Boss Slicer replacement with it - which actually allows you to program your own patterns), so nothing needed here - unless it's really much more innovative than a modulated filter or modulated amplitude or something like that. 3. Those really obscure manufacturers (Devi Ever, Squarewave Parade): I'm residing in Germany, and if the local music store doesn't carry it, ordering an expensive effects pedal from the U.S. might be an issue even with a good return policy with all the customs and taxes crap going on. 4. Delays: unless it's doing something I can't do combining it with one of my delays (I'll be using the things in combination with a mixer, so putting something in the feedback chain of a delay is possible for me), I wouldn't need another one. Now Mark (and some others) recommended Electro Harmonix.Anyone familiar with the Flanger Hoax (http://www.ehx.com/products/flanger-hoax)? Looks cool, and I like the name... Andy suggested the jomox T-Resonator - which looks like a lot of fun from some vids found on youtube as well... Erdem you suggested both the Ringtone and the Freq Box - both of which gave me the idea to try and replicate this concept in the Micromodular (thought about that re the Ringtone before, but the idea got lost). Actually, some of the device ideas from those faraway small companies could really be a starting point for me with regard to simulating building my own, so to speak. Thanks again to all of you - and keep those suggestions coming, if you can still think of one! And as said above, any comment on the Flanger Hoax would be very welcome. Best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 21 03:37:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D7AB3BE75; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:37:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1127 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:37:22 UTC MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:10:26 -0400 Message-ID: <2be4a39e0906202010h5f4114du65c60be1eb6634ee@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Newb question about looping gear From: Andrew Rice To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c9247767f41d046cd319b4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:37:23 +0000 (UTC) --001636c9247767f41d046cd319b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Apologies for the beginner gear question and thanks in advance for any advice. I am a keyboard player (chiefly Hammond, Rhodes, Clavinet), currently playing in an instrumental four piece. Our guitarist is showing signs of extreme unreliability and we are probably going to transition to a trio. I am interested in a simple, preferrably foot controlled looper to allow me to lay down one or two rhythm tracks and then improvise on top of them (I prefer to have both hands available for soloing). I would be laying down everything live and erasing it, so no need for a lot of memory, no prerecorded tracks. What is the best product available? What is the best cheap product available? Thanks Andy Rice -- Andrew Rice Creative Consulting arice@creativepages.net http://www.creativepages.net --001636c9247767f41d046cd319b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi

Apologies for the beginner gear question and thanks in advance for any= advice.

=A0

I am a keyboard player (chiefly Hammond, Rhodes, Clavinet), currently = playing in an instrumental four piece.=A0 Our guitarist is showing signs of= extreme unreliability and we are probably going to transition to a trio.= =A0 I am interested in a simple, preferrably foot controlled looper to allo= w me to lay down one or two rhythm tracks and then improvise on top of them= (I prefer to have both hands available for soloing).

=A0

I would be laying down everything live and erasing it, so no need for = a lot of memory, no prerecorded tracks.

What is the best product available?

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What is the best cheap product available?

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Thanks

Andy Rice

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Creative Consulting
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 21 12:40:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E3A23BE77; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Icdnol+dQ66/DcqW3Kl6iKI9EheXuu/cvM5GTH9R3Zc=; b=gT85naIHuOZ5Q0jXL7K4D8amKurM+zUbJAgaIOdEhnLykd61L8CnHeAw/+FzypnDG8 6VmF/bbxcBjDb89dNDI981vXbtmo0AsoifAYR0NMbo4UxbzgbaqFBcj1rC3AuBPANL11 fJfufMtCypd+8mznAAP+GRV+IkEYIGi+4cFgs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HArmDm7eivYCcyp7P4jjmuIN+SlpLwYW/lhBXZooLiG182yoMQT+JOp2plsrgykmKW ju9yAWeiaTFdw9pHk9OAik8mWD8MJsST0ZNrtCcJkYd1Qhn+KkR/Bln1wayF6RmAgwVP v8B51zRvnWKuw0sv6IqQb/f9O/nTTOYIExkqM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2be4a39e0906202010h5f4114du65c60be1eb6634ee@mail.gmail.com> References: <2be4a39e0906202010h5f4114du65c60be1eb6634ee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 07:40:34 -0500 Message-ID: <2871c3a90906210540y51077683vc625996e510afe78@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Newb question about looping gear From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:40:34 +0000 (UTC) HI Andy, This topic was discussed in dept a while ago, check out the archives and read the whole thread for some great suggestions: http://www.loopersdelight.com/LDarchive/200903/msg00577.html Sylvain On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Andrew Rice wrot= e: > Hi > Apologies for the beginner gear question and thanks in advance for any > advice. > > I am a keyboard player (chiefly Hammond, Rhodes, Clavinet), currently > playing in an instrumental four piece.=A0 Our guitarist is showing signs = of > extreme unreliability and we are probably going to transition to a trio.= =A0 I > am interested in a simple, preferrably foot controlled looper to allow me= to > lay down one or two rhythm tracks and then improvise on top of them (I > prefer to have both hands available for soloing). > > I would be laying down everything live and erasing it, so no need for a l= ot > of memory, no prerecorded tracks. > What is the best product available? > > What is the best cheap product available? > > Thanks > Andy Rice > -- > Andrew Rice > Creative Consulting > arice@creativepages.net > http://www.creativepages.net > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 21 15:18:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A61413BE7E; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 43694 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:18:42 UTC MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2871c3a90906210540y51077683vc625996e510afe78@mail.gmail.com> References: <2be4a39e0906202010h5f4114du65c60be1eb6634ee@mail.gmail.com> <2871c3a90906210540y51077683vc625996e510afe78@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:18:41 -0400 Message-ID: <2be4a39e0906210818r26657e6dm209052f1459673dd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Newb question about looping gear From: Andrew Rice To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65097fec9ecea046cdd45f3 Resent-Message-ID: <-WFJwC.A.CsD.T9kPKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:18:43 +0000 (UTC) --0016e65097fec9ecea046cdd45f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Sylvain for the quick response. On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > HI Andy, > This topic was discussed in dept a while ago, check out the archives > and read the whole thread for some great suggestions: > > http://www.loopersdelight.com/LDarchive/200903/msg00577.html > > Sylvain > > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Andrew Rice > wrote: > > Hi > > Apologies for the beginner gear question and thanks in advance for any > > advice. > > > > I am a keyboard player (chiefly Hammond, Rhodes, Clavinet), currently > > playing in an instrumental four piece. Our guitarist is showing signs of > > extreme unreliability and we are probably going to transition to a trio. > I > > am interested in a simple, preferrably foot controlled looper to allow me > to > > lay down one or two rhythm tracks and then improvise on top of them (I > > prefer to have both hands available for soloing). > > > > I would be laying down everything live and erasing it, so no need for a > lot > > of memory, no prerecorded tracks. > > What is the best product available? > > > > What is the best cheap product available? > > > > Thanks > > Andy Rice > > -- > > Andrew Rice > > Creative Consulting > > arice@creativepages.net > > http://www.creativepages.net > > > > -- Andrew Rice Creative Consulting arice@creativepages.net http://www.creativepages.net --0016e65097fec9ecea046cdd45f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Sylvain for the quick response.

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Sylvain Poitras= <sylvai= n.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:

HI Andy,
This topic was discu= ssed in dept a while ago, check out the archives
and read the whole thre= ad for some great suggestions:

http://www.loopersdelight.com/LDarchive/200903/msg00577= .html

Sylvain

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Andrew Rice<= arice@creativepages.net> = wrote:
> Hi
> Apologies for the beginner gear question and than= ks in advance for any
> advice.
>
> I am a keyboard player (chiefly Hammond, Rhode= s, Clavinet), currently
> playing in an instrumental four piece.=A0 O= ur guitarist is showing signs of
> extreme unreliability and we are p= robably going to transition to a trio.=A0 I
> am interested in a simple, preferrably foot controlled looper to allow= me to
> lay down one or two rhythm tracks and then improvise on top = of them (I
> prefer to have both hands available for soloing).
>
> I would be laying down everything live and erasing it, so no n= eed for a lot
> of memory, no prerecorded tracks.
> What is the= best product available?
>
> What is the best cheap product ava= ilable?
>
> Thanks
> Andy Rice
> --
> Andrew Rice
>= ; Creative Consulting
> ar= ice@creativepages.net
> http://www.creativepages.net
>

--
Andrew Rice
Creative Consulting
arice@creativepages.net
http://www.creativepages.net
--0016e65097fec9ecea046cdd45f3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 21 16:21:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 856213BE78; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:21:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <787ca2a2c848123abd559e53586efc33.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:21:40 -0700 Subject: FS: keyboards, synths, etc. From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "DH" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <_b1-xB.A.9dH.W4lPKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:21:42 +0000 (UTC) Posted some of these earlier but have added more and lowered some prices. Cleaning out my studio and have a lot of large synths I don't need so I am selling them CHEAP. Full info, pictures, etc at: http://helpwantedproductions.com/Salez/FS.htm 1. Yamaha DX7- $150 2. Korg EA1 - $100 3. Korg DS8 - $100 (LOWER PRICE) 4. Yamaha CS2x - $250 (LOWER PRICE) 5. Juno 106 $400 6. DAED Disturbo Fuzz/noise machine - $95 USPS MO or Paypal. Pickup in Phila PA or buyer pays shipping and paypal fees. Pickup gets preference and multi purchase and pickup gets even better price. ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com -- ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 21 17:20:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE13D3BE75; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CT5lLFf6JZK2YVsh7fWli5jUhNOqK7HGYnWUk2C0wVs=; b=w3f4TnPDIXtOjrDe3vQvuzvu1uFInVeLF0orEvZuEZeZbTbKpJmud9IXh3PpwxK5jP 1Yf1CJn2CS+UUMwT3e5QsmFHV1DTk0Y+PWiv+e7KqXrsdBsGZ4lTp/Lz1xoRLo1h2DpN UeRzVEJB6hN1O7sfN4OnEyPW6WbCuFSjvKq00= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=UFoKYFReM4a6+smoUUinJpzcpUfH+E45XE0Vy3aSVcpQyXhNysy5idVzOXimV05Ezb gFV9XUwgMkwYxleTQwjwvS7CMar4mOK42FVoPwaIEHW2HKaQ+O7/WWXvucKM7j6hmvuz DAOA0aAw2eG5PppdselsKq5RPCFd3XPZnmDWk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:20:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: FS:akai mpc1000 in excellent shape From: magicicada To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, DH , AH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:20:27 +0000 (UTC) I am selling my mpc 1000. It is in excellent shape and comes with a soft carry bag, 1 gig cfc card and orginal box if you wish. 550 obo Please contact me off list. Thanks! On 6/21/09, legion@helpwantedproductions.com wrote: > Posted some of these earlier but have added more and lowered some prices. > Cleaning out my studio and have a lot of large synths I don't need so I am > selling them CHEAP. > > Full info, pictures, etc at: http://helpwantedproductions.com/Salez/FS.htm > > 1. Yamaha DX7- $150 > 2. Korg EA1 - $100 > 3. Korg DS8 - $100 (LOWER PRICE) > 4. Yamaha CS2x - $250 (LOWER PRICE) > 5. Juno 106 $400 > 6. DAED Disturbo Fuzz/noise machine - $95 > > > USPS MO or Paypal. Pickup in Phila PA or buyer pays shipping and paypal > fees. Pickup gets preference and multi purchase and pickup gets even > better price. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: > Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------ > Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: > Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com > > -- Sent from my mobile device From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 21 17:51:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 218673BE73; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:51:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <20090619112755.9894F3BE80@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: alphanumeric keyboard Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:51:00 +0200 Message-ID: <002901c9f298$d7ca7410$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20090619112755.9894F3BE80@arsenic.violacea.com> Thread-Index: Acnw0lNpOXHKkaBjRCO/b4Cee+VG/ABxiMlw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:51:11 +0000 (UTC) When I don't have an instrument with me, just the PC notebook, it would sometimes be cool if I could use the keys of my notebook as a midi controller, in my case, inside of Bidule. Does anyone know if this is possible with some tools? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 21 18:42:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BD5E3BE7C; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1245609741; bh=awrbSub1FN/C9sfuSKxs+MhrSsLpWkEAXvYJyPuq76k=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=oWBvHg7CaN6hgYqZjzSEzEtcI8dJ0HVrt9wes651LZT98vUvKhhXFwb2jesCOZB8Z yLM9Cv6R9iLkDkuMk/o7+YIA626FB/aH5DhFrKAbWMbo22gdBjyCVtCYfpmPmmQQRH EN6GRXhQo0O1bpXtRk6UucjyxPDELRcTwoxB7Zvg= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: alphanumeric keyboard Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:42:17 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c9f2a0$010d7c80$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 In-Reply-To: <002901c9f298$d7ca7410$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acnw0lNpOXHKkaBjRCO/b4Cee+VG/ABxiMlwAAHVNSA= Importance: Normal X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: <229kh.A.ve.R8nPKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:42:26 +0000 (UTC) I know Per does this with Logic. But I don't know he uses special software for it. > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Peters [mailto:mp@mpeters.de] > Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 19:51 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: alphanumeric keyboard > > > When I don't have an instrument with me, just the PC > notebook, it would sometimes be cool if I could use the keys > of my notebook as a midi controller, in my case, inside of > Bidule. 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For further information please contact us below: Email:shellpetroleumcompany@europe.com :shelllottery1@yahoo.es From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 21 19:06:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3749C3BE77; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004801c9f2a3$59ef3610$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: <20090619112755.9894F3BE80@arsenic.violacea.com> <002901c9f298$d7ca7410$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: alphanumeric keyboard Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:06:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Thhis may be what you're looking for, though I've never tried it - http://www.granucon.com/vmk.html Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" To: Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:51 PM Subject: alphanumeric keyboard > When I don't have an instrument with me, just the PC notebook, it would > sometimes be cool if I could use the keys of my notebook as a midi > controller, in my case, inside of Bidule. Does anyone know if this is > possible with some tools? > > -Michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 21 19:10:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 410B83BE79; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:10:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: OT carry on acoustics. Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:10:31 -0700 Message-ID: <0175D8DC41A846C0BDB4196BE09B5AC9@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C9F269.496E19D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acnyo/JwjxslvMhJS2ypxhjquTXl7g== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:10:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C9F269.496E19D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear list, I'm going to a family reunion next Wednesday, traveling by plane, and for the first time in as long as I can remember, I'm contemplating taking my full size acoustic guitar with me, that I'd rather not check . I know that people have had luck hand carrying their guitar to the plane before relinquishing it, but I'm wondering if any of you who have traveled with an acoustic lately could give me some feedback, as to how you navigate this issue. My guitar has an excellent arched top hard shell case, but I still don't trust the airline goons enough to check it with my other bag. Thanks Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C9F269.496E19D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear list, I’m going to a family reunion next = Wednesday, traveling by plane, and for the first time in as long as I can remember, = I’m contemplating taking my full size acoustic guitar with me, that = I’d rather not check . I know that people have had luck hand carrying their = guitar to the plane before relinquishing it, but I’m wondering if any of = you who have traveled with an acoustic lately could give me some feedback, as to = how you navigate this issue. My guitar has an excellent arched top hard = shell case, but I still don’t trust the airline goons enough to check it with = my other bag.

Thanks

Bill

------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C9F269.496E19D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 21 19:29:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D86423BE77; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:29:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1245612590; bh=5ZbmR4Fue95E+Gbh/+h3eriO7zDa4hQD30z22UL2DEY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=C/0Bu1N07QPuHf4x378U/LMTN8b7p34uqBQL00/uSQanoxLUPTO2LySJOWYOEqVm4/EeD/cDJgFkvB4ZxsD1ffRDOtR2FSUSls0fdlzBbX/P1nhNk547sKXq55FfCBcPB3kLy4WWMFOdZ7ekj7Lqp8CDV5nXgB6CFcEv8+VRwJE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fi7KwYXKyXhM8UIUtPRcVYLow5WIytQfROEChR1UFGOlHQM5y3P5ItRMZzoE591nquxOapVHPKusmbU+wG5OaAy92aRcf98s9Xy5LJYieMuV0508NkqOst0zIysxO3nplu5FOAmfJuDauQVJqdNOirqXT6JphUuAAJtgU2w+F10=; Message-ID: <590252.54427.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:29:50 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: OT carry on acoustics. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, billwalker@baymoon.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:29:51 +0000 (UTC) Hi Bill,=0Aive taken my acoustics to the U.S. with no problems,you just hav= e to insist that you need to have it with you at all times and they will le= t you put it in their special compartment if it doesnt feet above your sitt= ing place.=0Acheers=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- William = Walker schrieb am So, 21.6.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Willi= am Walker =0A> Betreff: OT carry on acoustics.=0A> = An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Sonntag, 21. 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Does anyone know if this is > possible with some tools? Hi Michael, Maybe you can build it in Bidule with some of the Bidule's in the manual quote below? Per HID Data Extractor > Use any standard USB HID (Human Interface Device) like keyboard, mouse and > joystick as a MIDI and parameter source. Buttons will be transformed into > MIDI notes and bool (on/off) parameters while axis-based controls (like the > mousewheel or the digital joystick pad) will be transformed into MIDI CC and > parameters with a range > HID Device: the device the Data Extractor takes/outputs information from Axis1->Pitchbend: force the first axis control to be transformed into MIDI > pitchbend Fixed MIDI Mapping: information read-only display of the currently selected > device available controls and their mapping > > Key Stroke > Little bidule that you can use to create your own keyboard to MIDI or that > you can use to trigger other events. The window needs to have the focus for > the bidule to work correctly. DEPRECATED: please use the HID Data Extractor > Key Number Output: the (un)pressed key ASCII number Key Down Trigger Output: sends a 1 when a key is pressed Key Up Trigger Output: sends a 1 when a key if unpressed --001517573df2464d0b046ce0e7e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Michael Peters<mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
> When I don't have an inst= rument with me, just the PC notebook, it would
> sometimes be cool if= I could use the keys of my notebook as a midi
> controller, in my case, inside of Bidule. Does anyone know if this is<= br>> possible with some tools?

Hi Michael,

Maybe you c= an build it in Bidule with some of the Bidule's in the manual quote bel= ow?

Per

HID Data Extractor

Use any standard USB HID (Human Interface Device) like keyboard, mouse and = joystick as a MIDI and parameter source. Buttons will be transformed into M= IDI notes and bool (on/off) parameters while axis-based controls (like the = mousewheel or the digital joystick pad) will be transformed into MIDI CC an= d parameters with a range

HID Device: the device the Data Extractor takes/outputs information from
Axis1->Pitchbend: force the first axis control to be transformed into MI= DI pitchbend
Fixed MIDI Mapping: information read-only display of the currently selected= device available controls and their mapping

Key Stroke

Little bidule that you can use to create your own keyboard to MIDI or that = you can use to trigger other events. The window needs to have the focus for= the bidule to work correctly. DEPRECATED: please use the HID Data Extracto= r

Key Number Output: the (un)pressed key ASCII number
Key Down Trigger Output: sends a 1 when a key is pressed
Key Up Trigger Output: sends a 1 when a key if unpressed
=
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 21 19:44:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 583293BE77; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A3E8D87.5050204@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:44:07 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT: RIP AAK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Hi Bill, The albums were called 'Karuna Supreme' (1975) and 'Rainbow' (1980) and, yes, it is very sad news, indeed to hear of the passing of the great musician Ali Akbar Khan. They are going as cheaply as $82.50 at amazon.com (ouch) and as much as $119.99 Not only did he have a huge impact on world music but, in particular, he had an enormous impact on the San Francisco Bay Area and environs. I know so many fantastic musicians who were trained in Indian Classical music at his Ali Akbar School of Music in Marin County. He had a huge impact on the whole World Beat movement of the early 80's as well as huge impact on the third stream movement in Jazz. He will be missed. 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From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:53:40 +0000 (UTC) > Hi there, > I'm receiving many emails every day and I don't know how to stop this and unsubscribe from this service.. > Can you help? Yes, we can! 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From: Alexandre Leger To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bdfd8448773046ce2e9fd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:09:20 +0000 (UTC) --0015174bdfd8448773046ce2e9fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey everyone, Brand new to this list, but not to looping. I've been using an RC-50 for a little over a year now and it's been great, however I have a question that I can't find the answer to anywhere. I play guitar, keys, and vox, into the looper, and want to be able to separate what comes out. I want to be able to send the guitar to my guitar amp to keep the tone, but I want to send the keys and vox to the PA. Is this possible? I know I can send the phrases independently to each output, but I can't seem to find away to divide where each input goes. Cheers, Alex -- My music is at http://www.bewaretheleopard.com Be sure to check it out and sign up for the mailing list! --0015174bdfd8448773046ce2e9fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey everyone,

Brand new to this list, but not to looping.=A0 I&= #39;ve been using an RC-50 for a little over a year now and it's been g= reat, however I have a question that I can't find the answer to anywher= e.

I play guitar, keys, and vox, into the looper, and want to be able to s= eparate what comes out.=A0 I want to be able to send the guitar to my guita= r amp to keep the tone, but I want to send the keys and vox to the PA.=A0 I= s this possible?=A0 I know I can send the phrases independently to each out= put, but I can't seem to find away to divide where each input goes.
Cheers,

Alex

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My music is at http://www.bewaretheleopard.com=
Be sure to check it out and sign up for the mailing list!

--0015174bdfd8448773046ce2e9fd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 21 22:27:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09E773BE7C; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:27:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:27:49 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1245622868; bh=ot4TYmFWFKuIXJhcUFLqLtBMy0tpI5HgePpnntIoN3Q=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2Q9KZ7GvrxMuy/jb4ofrAFV8Nw1a7zVCkIRGlzBxVhpH5H0H+tXHIeaDSeLRUyFvbgdm2l7LwKC7NKhU/dgdUKK2H6KitTXEpYiPqJOWhxAkRYubd4myoqNMMwdB/4j1BVxE7WveOnlyopp9F/RWVq9hAS8EdrLN9Kh+f1IXg/U= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=S/xxQDTcDY7ZMdkpLkSdQOZVBuDM+iBD1qwQcTDkwp+ct3h3Fc9APLJH87sBXH5vfxEhcGTZXLzcyuZcx0q7tyiWC5qvBd35gLiUDRnXrE4QLLaI82UGvQeslz8QotfOoOgOQNS0Gwh86IMnnXG/NU233n6ICVANKwgmPnhpNUs=; Message-ID: <230412.48765.qm@web51510.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mqLIkSQVM1lmC_aHHwG13TCrS3s395DfLEp7OhB.Sk7RzPTuqsv9CVrLbx.q1h8F8C1wRaXsyV1JU2Iz2yuuPCqKWfBfbVJ3VQdIOs4d.N07iFhavDxqPWLwCgFOtD18zQCAX9_ywzoe9U8m7quZooFc5dne_Hq9KygfA7xQn0bRI_iiIsvb4XrDIMxC3d3PDyASCYc_ELRN4Sf3OVqP8wQ2yYLw.sjdeyEmkz9cNO1GXIRm1PGMT0gUc289ziK3F2P5pKaNSl7XOfVNOg_uF6_dcuYQmYsX5Evyp0J33d6WnQz_8HDroVefZ7SA1Km9L4KdF8dK0T6PS9KOiPUIyuSqVdBuuUz5lj8o87z5 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:21:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Marshall Subject: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1018297111-1245622867=:48765" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:27:49 +0000 (UTC) --0-1018297111-1245622867=:48765 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable okay, you know you can control where they come out and you are cool with th= at, so why are you concerned with the input?=A0=A0 Or am I missing somethin= g in your question?=A0=20 --- On Sun, 6/21/09, Alexandre Leger wrote: From: Alexandre Leger Subject: RC-50 multiple outputs? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 6:02 PM Hey everyone,=20 Brand new to this list, but not to looping.=A0 I've been using an RC-50 for= a little over a year now and it's been great, however I have a question th= at I can't find the answer to anywhere.=20 I play guitar, keys, and vox, into the looper, and want to be able to separ= ate what comes out.=A0 I want to be able to send the guitar to my guitar am= p to keep the tone, but I want to send the keys and vox to the PA.=A0 Is th= is possible?=A0 I know I can send the phrases independently to each output,= but I can't seem to find away to divide where each input goes.=20 Cheers, Alex --=20 My music is at http://www.bewaretheleopard.com=20 Be sure to check it out and sign up for the mailing list! =0A=0A=0A --0-1018297111-1245622867=:48765 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
okay, you know you can control where the= y come out and you are cool with that, so why are you concerned with the in= put?   Or am I missing something in your question?

--- On Sun, 6/21/09, Alexandre Leger <aleger@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Alexandre Leger <aleger@gmail.com>Subject: RC-50 multiple outputs?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co= m
Date: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 6:02 PM

Hey everyone,

Brand new to this list, bu= t not to looping. I've been using an RC-50 for a little over a year n= ow and it's been great, however I have a question that I can't find the ans= wer to anywhere.

I play guitar, keys, and vox, into the looper, and= want to be able to separate what comes out. I want to be able to sen= d the guitar to my guitar amp to keep the tone, but I want to send the keys= and vox to the PA. Is this possible? I know I can send the phr= ases independently to each output, but I can't seem to find away to divide = where each input goes.

Cheers,

Alex

-= -
My music is at http://www.bewaretheleopard.com
Be sure to ch= eck it out and sign up for the mailing list!

=

=0A=0A --0-1018297111-1245622867=:48765-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 21 22:31:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AA503BE71; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1719 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:31:00 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7e8hXOnRDrFg2UqwMiAIzDxeq9wGmPKBus3xrXs7ft8=; b=IzI4YFZsNnKhlBgzkBjH+AymTDLg4axFo0iYVjNvuW+ym0BBg0DDPsYjBUNBqmEbFL nmJ9r8fqoCZvWpmT6Y5LvkVGCLFarZJWgpdWEOkhbHND8XAYkxokV/QRhC5I057kjZzq kt+Y56LvbjJDvTexa/F8doiF5oUgj2lcEWidE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=x9AeT2ULN2636aCa3lxz1gP3SbSYF0kq0rfSOmjVQI0B7lye/p77owPC9J1+p2j4c/ /VwbCTn2oJElE9nnkkhJnm1MzLYfPy3hiIkUHYSm4MDDS5341nAWI67dKhagh3hVdY5g O+baIhfQ579P5AfTOg6KvtrD4LxT1YhDl6SGc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <230412.48765.qm@web51510.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <230412.48765.qm@web51510.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:30:59 -0400 Message-ID: <843294eb0906211530o2abb36c9kb94c433c6b0c95bd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? From: Alexandre Leger To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be628d3af24046ce34fff Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:31:01 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be628d3af24046ce34fff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, maybe I wasn't completely clear. The RC-50 has multiple inputs (instrument, aux, mic), and I'm wondering if I can specify which inputs go to which outputs (main, sub)? I know that I can specify where each phrase goes, but I use multiple instruments per phrase and I want to be able to separate them so my guitar and go through my amp, and the aux/mic can go through a PA. On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Marc Marshall wrote: > okay, you know you can control where they come out and you are cool with > that, so why are you concerned with the input? Or am I missing something > in your question? > > > --- On *Sun, 6/21/09, Alexandre Leger * wrote: > > > From: Alexandre Leger > Subject: RC-50 multiple outputs? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 6:02 PM > > > > Hey everyone, > > Brand new to this list, but not to looping. I've been using an RC-50 for a > little over a year now and it's been great, however I have a question that I > can't find the answer to anywhere. > > I play guitar, keys, and vox, into the looper, and want to be able to > separate what comes out. I want to be able to send the guitar to my guitar > amp to keep the tone, but I want to send the keys and vox to the PA. Is > this possible? I know I can send the phrases independently to each output, > but I can't seem to find away to divide where each input goes. > > Cheers, > > Alex > > > -- > My music is at http://www.bewaretheleopard.com > Be sure to check it out and sign up for the mailing list! > > > > -- My music is at http://www.bewaretheleopard.com Be sure to check it out and sign up for the mailing list! --0015174be628d3af24046ce34fff Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, maybe I wasn't completely clear.

The RC-50 has multiple i= nputs (instrument, aux, mic), and I'm wondering if I can specify which = inputs go to which outputs (main, sub)?

I know that I can specify wh= ere each phrase goes, but I use multiple instruments per phrase and I want = to be able to separate them so my guitar and go through my amp, and the aux= /mic can go through a PA.

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Mar= c Marshall <agentlesoul2004@yahoo.com> wrote:

okay, you know you can control where they come out and you are cool wi= th that, so why are you concerned with the input?=A0=A0 Or am I missing som= ething in your question?=A0

--- On Sun, 6/21/09, Alexandre= Leger <aleger@= gmail.com> wrote:

From: Alexandre Leger <aleger@gmail.com>
Subject: RC-5= 0 multiple outputs?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 6= :02 PM

Hey everyone,

Brand new to this list, but not to looping.= =A0 I've been using an RC-50 for a little over a year now and it's = been great, however I have a question that I can't find the answer to a= nywhere.

I play guitar, keys, and vox, into the looper, and want to be able to s= eparate what comes out.=A0 I want to be able to send the guitar to my guita= r amp to keep the tone, but I want to send the keys and vox to the PA.=A0 I= s this possible?=A0 I know I can send the phrases independently to each out= put, but I can't seem to find away to divide where each input goes.
Cheers,

Alex

--
My music is at http://www.bewaretheleopard.com
Be sure to check it out and sign u= p for the mailing list!

--
My music is at http://www.bewaretheleopard.com
Be sure to check it out and sign up for the mailing list!

--0015174be628d3af24046ce34fff-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 21 22:43:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 971BF3BE78; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:43:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: <4A3E8D87.5050204@cruzio.com> Subject: RE: RIP AAK Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:43:14 -0700 Message-ID: <99804B8D453E4134841BC22891C10751@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acnyv/uc4kU0WtvtQgy1VftNow5l3QAAUR0A In-Reply-To: <4A3E8D87.5050204@cruzio.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:43:18 +0000 (UTC) Karuna Supreme, That's it, thanks Rick, someone should release that music. Today is his memorial in Mill Valley. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Rick Walker [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 12:44 PM To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) Subject: OT: RIP AAK Hi Bill, The albums were called 'Karuna Supreme' (1975) and 'Rainbow' (1980) and, yes, it is very sad news, indeed to hear of the passing of the great musician Ali Akbar Khan. They are going as cheaply as $82.50 at amazon.com (ouch) and as much as $119.99 Not only did he have a huge impact on world music but, in particular, he had an enormous impact on the San Francisco Bay Area and environs. I know so many fantastic musicians who were trained in Indian Classical music at his Ali Akbar School of Music in Marin County. He had a huge impact on the whole World Beat movement of the early 80's as well as huge impact on the third stream movement in Jazz. He will be missed. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 21 22:55:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FA623BE73; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:55:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1245624925; bh=y/kL9pcjFcSN6+HV5oRbKbk6MQ60JTBePPsxqTJSXM0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2Q5WrXjSg4FbxzzYItXqnF1RorCK14q2Nf24rghHEwbrPEB/QljkteOPCbnhtPudQGI+tcDtY8YMvrDVYsOimSbW5jz7lNGqyFCZT0feUSrNUX5h2ErtJ2Zimjrj210hzHSWzJ4TUZ/yhu/8wt8/GCVerxm+r2Vbsa+i3gxkEkE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=n4urwNwCwXCTfX7QBZUQeszB0yIHP6I4EfeaVDVKFGmeEb4h2GtnJZ/57Z1JIeC89saXtVrGFqfnbxeniEuE6zolZ5cvfsRvY3x18HdpA05ejfEy1ihiDmCOdbgVtBaTvmFY+AC2BmZFngGVoyuoOo0Aku3AYoMoRYpelT0lYFU=; Message-ID: <724191.38515.qm@web51504.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: iBik3mIVM1nTt91I0EgJnuNTwt483P8HMmPIljCGK1sEnSg1DHoI0CrT16uPomvkhyaP2_s.npnsr3QPYznTrJhQPdRDYXtFa6IxbMgg9z4CH5APrcRVRlFaIKGWaReRyy6.isazQO9m3h0EbRYTpsV9PW8rDQq8hSGNVJf9ZdGyTcda_InwzW2tPF.9gJ4zwg8iS5c39cxviamR_HVFHq3D17_SOuIBRc0KM3K0lvLRfPIrcf9DfY4nqvjTFEeU6aUBQxzhhEZlS8Qqh7A5lFm4cMuiDtyi2SQKd1vwM1PVScdoYSkUyCa9A45u1uEXD1d7qT4Oudql X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:55:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Marshall Subject: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-962505186-1245624925=:38515" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:55:26 +0000 (UTC) --0-962505186-1245624925=:38515 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable so you are talking about using it as a live mixer?=A0=A0=A0I think the RC-5= 0 is designed to=A0loop in stereo=A0and then mix the input =A0phrases for s= tereo both=A0in main and sub outputs..=A0I have not used it so much as a li= ve mixer sorry!!=A0 I'm sure some other folks in Loopers Delight will be mo= re helpful. Marc Marshall =A0 =A0 "I am human, I am large, I contradict myself" =A0 .....and then some=A0=20 --- On Sun, 6/21/09, Alexandre Leger wrote: From: Alexandre Leger Subject: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 6:30 PM Sorry, maybe I wasn't completely clear. The RC-50 has multiple inputs (instrument, aux, mic), and I'm wondering if = I can specify which inputs go to which outputs (main, sub)? I know that I can specify where each phrase goes, but I use multiple instru= ments per phrase and I want to be able to separate them so my guitar and go= through my amp, and the aux/mic can go through a PA. On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Marc Marshall = wrote: okay, you know you can control where they come out and you are cool with th= at, so why are you concerned with the input?=A0=A0 Or am I missing somethin= g in your question?=A0=20 --- On Sun, 6/21/09, Alexandre Leger wrote: From: Alexandre Leger Subject: RC-50 multiple outputs? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 6:02 PM Hey everyone,=20 Brand new to this list, but not to looping.=A0 I've been using an RC-50 for= a little over a year now and it's been great, however I have a question th= at I can't find the answer to anywhere.=20 I play guitar, keys, and vox, into the looper, and want to be able to separ= ate what comes out.=A0 I want to be able to send the guitar to my guitar am= p to keep the tone, but I want to send the keys and vox to the PA.=A0 Is th= is possible?=A0 I know I can send the phrases independently to each output,= but I can't seem to find away to divide where each input goes.=20 Cheers, Alex --=20 My music is at http://www.bewaretheleopard.com=20 Be sure to check it out and sign up for the mailing list! --=20 My music is at http://www.bewaretheleopard.com=20 Be sure to check it out and sign up for the mailing list! =0A=0A=0A --0-962505186-1245624925=:38515 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
so you are talking about using it as a l= ive mixer?   I think the RC-50 is designed to loop in s= tereo and then mix the input phrases for stereo both in mai= n and sub outputs.. I have not used it so much as a live mixer sorry!!= I'm sure some other folks in Loopers Delight will be more helpful.

Marc Marshall<= /EM>

"I am human, I am lar= ge, I contradict myself"

.....and then some&nb= sp;

--- On Sun, 6/21/09, Alexandre Leger <aleger@gmail.com= > wrote:

From: Alexandre Leger <aleger@gmail.com>Subject: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com
Date: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 6:30 PM

Sorry, maybe I wasn't completely clear.

The = RC-50 has multiple inputs (instrument, aux, mic), and I'm wondering if I ca= n specify which inputs go to which outputs (main, sub)?

I know that = I can specify where each phrase goes, but I use multiple instruments per ph= rase and I want to be able to separate them so my guitar and go through my = amp, and the aux/mic can go through a PA.

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Marc Marshall <agentlesoul2004@yahoo.com> wrote:=

<= /TR>

okay, you know you can control where they come out and you are cool wi= th that, so why are you concerned with the input?   Or am I missi= ng something in your question?

--- On Sun, 6/21/09, = Alexandre Leger <aleger@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Alexandre Leger <aleger@gmail.com>
S= ubject: RC-50 multiple outputs?
To: Loope= rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 6:02 PM

Hey everyone,

Brand new to this list, but not to looping.&= nbsp; I've been using an RC-50 for a little over a year now and it's been g= reat, however I have a question that I can't find the answer to anywhere. <= BR>
I play guitar, keys, and vox, into the looper, and want to be able t= o separate what comes out. I want to be able to send the guitar to my= guitar amp to keep the tone, but I want to send the keys and vox to the PA= . Is this possible? I know I can send the phrases independently= to each output, but I can't seem to find away to divide where each input g= oes.

Cheers,

Alex

--
My music is = at http://www.bewaretheleopard.com
Be sure to check it out and sig= n up for the mailing list!

--
M= y music is at http://www.bewaretheleopard.com
Be sure to check it o= ut and sign up for the mailing list!

=0A=0A --0-962505186-1245624925=:38515-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 21 23:28:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 136193BE7C; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqgEABpfPkpMRCEh/2dsb2JhbACDKzyLZLx+CYQBBQ X-Vipre-Scanned: 002E409E001451002E41EB-TDI Reply-To: From: "PiNG" To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , "Dark Seeds" , "Drone Deep Chill" , "Loopers Delight" , "The Ambient Way" Subject: 06.23.09 > The PiNG presents THE DEVIL IN THE DESIGN + LORNE DAVID THOMSON Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:28:07 -0400 Organization: THE AMBiENT PiNG Message-ID: <000901c9f2c7$eefcd310$a27ba8c0@dream> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:28:08 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . TUESDAY JUNE 23RD . THE PiNG presents=20 dancing or leaping or diabolical chants featuring THE DEVIL IN THE DESIGN w/special guest LORNE DAVID THOMSON @ The Central . 603 Markham St . 1 block west of Bathurst & Bloor Map, info and directions at: http://www.thecentral.ca/info.php PiNG doors open at 8pm . 1st set at 8:30 . $6 =20 . THE DEVIL IN THE DESIGN . Freshly flown in from another space, Phil Ogison returns with a live version (really live) of his new 'live' studio release, Six Ways To Undo The Horizon. As Phil describes it, "Basically it's just me, the guitar, and mod pedals. The whole project is a 'back to basics' live improvisation thing, a more experimental ambient expression. Me talking to the guitar and the guitar talking back to me." http://www.myspace.com/ogison . LORNE DAVID THOMSON . After a decade of travel and living in South East Asia, Lorne returned to Toronto in August of 2008 and began playing with the psychedelic/dub/jam band Harold as their keyboardist. For his debut solo PiNG performance, Lorne will perform semi-improvised soundscapes and atmospherics laden with melody on a variety of analogue and digital synthesizers and devices. http://www.myspace.com/ldtregent . Between Sets CDs - eluvium + Stars Of The Lid We'll be spinning some "classical ambience" between and before=20 the sets with music from "copia" by eluvium and rarefied out-takes=20 from Stars Of The Lid's 2008 tour-only CD release. http://www.eluvium.net http://www.myspace.com/starsofthelid . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG SOON . JULY . 07.14.09 . THE AMBiENT PiNG presents STORMiNG THE BASTiLLE featuring Kinder Atom and Syn=FE=20 Tues. July 14th @ The Central . 603 Markham St . 8PM . AUGUST . 08.18.09 . THE AMBiENT PiNG's 10th ANNiVERSARY=20 featuring WALLY JERICHO, dreamSTATE and KALTE Tues. 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"iNTHiSHOUSE" by subduction current is available as a free downloadable 67Mb Zip file containing the full release in high quality 256kbps mp3 format along with artwork suitable for=20 printing. The music on this release is copyright Catherine=20 Tammaro 2009, and may not be used or reproduced=20 without the artist's express permission. http://www.pingthings.com/PTlabel.htm http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Also check out the AMBiENT PiNG RADiO podcast. Currently posted are the ALMOST LiVE SERiES sets by Numina, MWVM, NAW, Panoramaroid, Remora, Resonant Drift, Salvagesound, and URM. Also posted are the ping things net label releases by Spatial Correlation (Les Landes), Phil Ogison (The Perfect City) Andrew Duke (Aqua), Nunc Stans (Land), Ortiz (Where did we come from defcon?), mara's torment (tactile), Building Castles Out of Matchsticks (October Sky), Remora (Ensoulment), Panoramaroid (Music for Travellers #2), mara's torment (fluctuations), Spatial Correlation (Love and the Fear of Poverty) and Reinholt56 (Mechanism of the Soul). http://www.ambientpingradio.blogspot.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 21 23:36:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4DC93BE82; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 590530.26993.bm@omp207.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1245627383; bh=ukphTjvG+gpFeu1/DQ+h3nCzImTxrLhNe+6LWT/zHj8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tgBKUs5yaakeP4IMTbQvKF4sD05YSq+vCoes1gXOt59Ab26y9lTRV0hMLFfge5FyZg1H0qeKBHvzx8VDhauSBldivPo++YshcWozVlX7cCHQN3f26FMzFTAoa0wRfnAhVmvHegvxZgymu4AgQG73yQ2I7L7fI0Edw5hNPJQq6wY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WxDFSO3E4Flk73T8saRA4/OriuvB9bJvpzQQPbeJ8RSur91BOpQBFIitPHgeC2RcPluWLWIqxMRE2Ax14LJ83ZHt6kFPyVI/4N2whOU4kFgdhZLocqpW1wHuml2jF4FhShD728udc0AsrNio9hCltjTn0djrhtoHl7kTctPvbcE=; Message-ID: <433532.56656.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: kwGsYwkVM1m9XFkwdjsBsoI9cGtg92zlACo9krhU5ARi2DYF7vNnVmijX3bq4KvrQwrKcFO6Tg03zqVAXOuLiLMsUggr1ccyRPzhyWp0OnjXnLmMQln_faOFWRWzBxdbEh.oFBl3N4YdPm8HHAW8N9.9ooS4gW4bjhqlSj..NBNbnn4Yd3yjMFuMFDMS7YZFaE7RnyGrrf02QYEG153OCT1DMacqFyDvyXlg97M8J4x0FKPHeErXPINhHm8ucnwj7qtykpTfwgKo9.nBiAaA0DP1zKv7DijPMRFbJhu.8uM8yyI5RPZeUtsWE8Q- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.43 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 References: <2be4a39e0906202010h5f4114du65c60be1eb6634ee@mail.gmail.com> <2871c3a90906210540y51077683vc625996e510afe78@mail.gmail.com> <2be4a39e0906210818r26657e6dm209052f1459673dd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:36:22 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Newb question about looping gear To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <2be4a39e0906210818r26657e6dm209052f1459673dd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-720730380-1245627382=:56656" Resent-Message-ID: <9DuLG.A.ZbG.4PsPKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:36:24 +0000 (UTC) --0-720730380-1245627382=:56656 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andy,=0A=0AJust to offer my (limited)=A0experience with loopers, I have = an RC20-XL and a Boomerang+=0A=0AThe Boomerang+ will do exactly what you wa= nt, you can have 2 seperate loops, and set it so that you can either enter = the 2nd loop immediately, or when=A0the first loop ends. The downside is it= is expensive for the feature set (@$400), and there is no Undo button but = there is Reverse. Soon (?)=A0there will be a new unit out, and so the exist= ing boomerang may drop in price. In my band I use this mostly to tap in del= ays and to scare the kiddies with strange noises between songs (or make the= m laugh). Note that it=A0can be=A0difficult to keep the drummer in time wit= h a static loop, some LD folks suggest a seperate monitor feed for that.=0A= =0AThe RC20-XL offers Undo which is nice, and is about half the price, but = only has one loop (also has reverse but need to add a seperate footswitch f= or that). If I was going to get another looper pedal of this type I would p= robably get the JamMan, because it offers more features like more memory an= d USB port, at about the same price=0A=0AGood luck! You may find (like I ha= ve) that as you do more looping and learn more about the subject via the ar= tists on LD, you will want more full featured looping capabilities, for thi= s I am using Mobius software(free) on laptop, with a Behringer FCB1010 peda= l for Midi control. This has way more features than I possibly have time to= experiment with. This will easily do what you want, and if you have a lapt= op already, will only cost the price of the midi controller (@ $150 for FCB= 1010) and a USB port midi interface (@ $50-70 for a cheap one).=0A=0AThanks= LD folks for helping in my education!=0A=0AEric=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____________= ____________________=0AFrom: Andrew Rice =0ATo: Lo= opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 11:18:41 AM= =0ASubject: Re: Newb question about looping gear=0A=0AThanks Sylvain for th= e quick response.=0A=0A=0AOn Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Sylvain Poitras = wrote:=0A=0AHI Andy,=0AThis topic was discusse= d in dept a while ago, check out the archives=0Aand read the whole thread f= or some great suggestions:=0A=0Ahttp://www.loopersdelight.com/LDarchive/200= 903/msg00577.html=0A=0ASylvain=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:10 PM,= Andrew Rice wrote:=0A> Hi=0A> Apologies for the b= eginner gear question and thanks in advance for any=0A> advice.=0A>=0A> I a= m a keyboard player (chiefly Hammond, Rhodes, Clavinet), currently=0A> play= ing in an instrumental four piece.=A0 Our guitarist is showing signs of=0A>= extreme unreliability and we are probably going to transition to a trio.= =A0 I=0A> am interested in a simple, preferrably foot controlled looper to = allow me to=0A> lay down one or two rhythm tracks and then improvise on top= of them (I=0A> prefer to have both hands available for soloing).=0A>=0A> I= would be laying down everything live and erasing it, so no need for a lot= =0A> of memory, no prerecorded tracks.=0A> What is the best product availab= le?=0A>=0A> What is the best cheap product available?=0A>=0A> Thanks=0A> An= dy Rice=0A> --=0A> Andrew Rice=0A> Creative Consulting=0A> arice@creativepa= ges.net=0A> http://www.creativepages.net=0A>=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-- =0AAndrew Ric= e=0ACreative Consulting=0Aarice@creativepages.net=0Ahttp://www.creativepage= s.net=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-720730380-1245627382=:56656 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Andy,
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Just to offe= r my (limited) experience with loopers, I have an RC20-XL and a Boomer= ang+
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The Boomerang+ will do exactly what y= ou want, you can have 2 seperate loops, and set it so that you can either e= nter the 2nd loop immediately, or when the first loop ends. The downsi= de is it is expensive for the feature set (@$400), and there is no Undo but= ton but there is Reverse. Soon (?) there will be a new unit out, and s= o the existing boomerang may drop in price. In my band I use this mostly to= tap in delays and to scare the kiddies with strange noises between songs (= or make them laugh). Note that it can be difficult to keep the dr= ummer in time with a static loop, some LD folks suggest a seperate monitor = feed for that.
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The RC20-XL offers Undo whi= ch is nice, and is about half the price, but only has one loop (also has re= verse but need to add a seperate footswitch for that). If I was going to ge= t another looper pedal of this type I would probably get the JamMan, becaus= e it offers more features like more memory and USB port, at about the same = price
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Good luck! You may find (like I have= ) that as you do more looping and learn more about the subject via the arti= sts on LD, you will want more full featured looping capabilities, for this = I am using Mobius software(free) on laptop, with a Behringer FCB1010 pedal = for Midi control. This has way more features than I possibly have time to e= xperiment with. This will easily do what you want, and if you have a laptop= already, will only cost the price of the midi controller (@ $150 for FCB10= 10) and a USB port midi interface (@ $50-70 for a cheap one).
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Thanks LD folks for helping in my education!
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Eric
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=0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.= com
Sent: Sunday, June 2= 1, 2009 11:18:41 AM
Subject:= Re: Newb question about looping gear

Thanks Sylvain for = the quick response.

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On Sun, Jun 21, 2009= at 8:40 AM, Sylvain Poitras <sylvain.trombone@gmail.com> wrote:
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HI Andy,
This topic was disc= ussed in dept a while ago, check out the archives
and read the whole thr= ead for some great suggestions:

http://= www.loopersdelight.com/LDarchive/200903/msg00577.html

Sylvain
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On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Andrew Rice<arice@creativepages.net> wrote:
> Hi
&g= t; Apologies for the beginner gear question and thanks in advance for any> advice.
>
> I am a keyboard player (chiefly Hammond, Rho= des, Clavinet), currently
> playing in an instrumental four piece.&nb= sp; Our guitarist is showing signs of
> extreme unreliability and we = are probably going to transition to a trio. I
> am interested i= n a simple, preferrably foot controlled looper to allow me to
> lay d= own one or two rhythm tracks and then improvise on top of them (I
> p= refer to have both hands available for soloing).
>
> I would be= laying down everything live and erasing it, so no need for a lot
> o= f memory, no prerecorded tracks.
> What is the best product available?
>
> What is the best cheap product availabl= e?
>
> Thanks
> Andy Rice
> --
> Andrew Rice<= BR>> Creative Consulting
> arice@creativepages.net
> http://www.creativepages.net
&g= t;

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Andrew Rice
Creative Consulting
arice@creativepages.net
http://www.creativepages.net

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--0-1205350474-1245634535=:94151-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 22 06:03:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA3033BE75; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:03:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <66f9cc1e0906211238h26c85907qcd18c173a5211ddf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: alphanumeric keyboard Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:03:24 +0200 Message-ID: <003801c9f2ff$2745fc10$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01C9F30F.EACECC10" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906211238h26c85907qcd18c173a5211ddf@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: Acny/FwSDmCfkbinQzahVDFv8kfFOAAAq8Dw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.193; VDF: 7.1.4.120) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:03:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C9F30F.EACECC10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Maybe you can build it in Bidule with some of the Bidule's in the manual quote below? oh, I hadn't seen that ... a classical case of RTFM :-) thanks I'll check it out! -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C9F30F.EACECC10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> = Maybe you can=20 build it in Bidule with some of the Bidule's in the manual quote = below?

oh, I hadn't seen that ... a classical case of RTFM = :-) thanks=20 I'll check it out!

-Michael

------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C9F30F.EACECC10-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 22 08:10:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CA3E3BE75; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:10:06 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <230412.48765.qm@web51510.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090622081006.196440@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <230412.48765.qm@web51510.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/0Y1YAVd70DyjUcgQDX7pWq178iQGE01a3DYcouz 0+FgPpg8qpryFYJ8vSCuLE6fhJVEZqRO+3OQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: OFhXB4ctbHIhVtsjwjU0l64iJihyahDC X-FuHaFi: 0.57 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Hi Alex first of all, welcome to LD :) You have the following possibilities with the RC-50: - Input Aux/Mic/Instr > Phrase 1,2,3 Left/Right - Phrase 1,2,3 Left/Right > Output Main/Aux Left/Right The Inputs are quite obvious, simply adjust the levels. You can define for each Phrase (Loop), if it will be played via Output Main,Aux or both. You need to go into the PATCH/PHRASE settings for this. The only way to "split" your loop into different parts is to: - either use different PHRASES that are linked i.e. Main Out (vox,keys), Aux Out (Guitar) - if you are working mono, use Left/Right to split the signal Esp. splitting Left/Right is a good idea. You may need to be careful with the signal levels, however. Also, what is a real pity on the RC-50 is that you cannot pan the MIC INPUT on the RC-50. So you'd probably want to use a small mixer for all your inputs: i.e. pan your guitar hard LEFT, pan vox/keys hard right and send them through Instrument Input to the RC-50. best regards Buzap -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 22 08:30:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1D433BE78; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: <487623B7-7D92-4028-911A-0A0CC1FC8DDC@mac.com> From: Teddy Kumpel To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-reply-to: <20090622081006.196440@gmx.net> Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Subject: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:29:42 +0200 References: <230412.48765.qm@web51510.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090622081006.196440@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:30:02 +0000 (UTC) I pretty much do that. My PA stuff goes to the right input and my gtr =20= goes to the left. Then I pan all the phrases to the center and output =20= everything out of the sub out. Right goes to the PA left to a guitar =20 amp. I use the guide but don't want anyone to hear it so my main out =20 only does that as I need the headphone out to be guide only... Teddy Kumpel http://teddyjam.com On Jun 22, 2009, at 10:10 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi Alex > > first of all, welcome to LD :) > > You have the following possibilities with the RC-50: > - Input Aux/Mic/Instr > Phrase 1,2,3 Left/Right > - Phrase 1,2,3 Left/Right > Output Main/Aux Left/Right > > The Inputs are quite obvious, simply adjust the levels. > You can define for each Phrase (Loop), if it will be played via =20 > Output Main,Aux or both. You need to go into the PATCH/PHRASE =20 > settings for this. > > The only way to "split" your loop into different parts is to: > - either use different PHRASES that are linked i.e. Main Out =20 > (vox,keys), Aux Out (Guitar) > - if you are working mono, use Left/Right to split the signal > > Esp. splitting Left/Right is a good idea. You may need to be careful =20= > with the signal levels, however. Also, what is a real pity on the =20 > RC-50 is that you cannot pan the MIC INPUT on the RC-50. So you'd =20 > probably want to use a small mixer for all your inputs: i.e. pan =20 > your guitar hard LEFT, pan vox/keys hard right and send them through =20= > Instrument Input to the RC-50. > > best regards > Buzap > > > --=20 > GRATIS f=C3=BCr alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 22 09:45:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F3CF3BE75; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1245663906; l=4506; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:References:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=1oIssVVNqnDpoOIRGLVPYAAjMVM=; b=BwGuWZQPN3OVWydATIpqPSfanBNLuyu1lKq5biDkzh5e0Pri9fkH/LBQBo/WdTmgO7a QwO+KdE7NLqLmbqIx4OEjjT6pOP+mX1wqGdsCFQdYLpV8T9Rzb6+GXin9TjwE2EIW6f7T 31IzSZ2Nc/v6wwzXy4R1edA7ncXBf9O55S0= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <00c401c9f31e$919cca70$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: <843294eb0906211502s30f4b371v9f14728734e0420@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RC-50 multiple outputs? Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:48:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C9F32F.4FDD3780" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:45:08 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C9F32F.4FDD3780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alex, as there are 2 input plugs (mono/stereo), you could use them to separate = guitar and keys/vox. Plug in guitar to the left input, keys/vox (by using a small mixer to plug in both) to the right. Then connect the left output to your guitar amp and the right to the PA. Good luck! Christo www.christojota.de ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alexandre Leger=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 12:02 AM Subject: RC-50 multiple outputs? Hey everyone,=20 Brand new to this list, but not to looping. I've been using an RC-50 = for a little over a year now and it's been great, however I have a = question that I can't find the answer to anywhere.=20 I play guitar, keys, and vox, into the looper, and want to be able to = separate what comes out. I want to be able to send the guitar to my = guitar amp to keep the tone, but I want to send the keys and vox to the = PA. Is this possible? I know I can send the phrases independently to = each output, but I can't seem to find away to divide where each input = goes.=20 Cheers, Alex --=20 My music is at http://www.bewaretheleopard.com=20 Be sure to check it out and sign up for the mailing list! ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C9F32F.4FDD3780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Alex,

as there are 2 input plugs = (mono/stereo), you could=20 use them to separate guitar and = keys/vox. Plug in=20 guitar to the left input, keys/vox

(by using a small mixer to plug in = both)=20 to the right.

Then connect the left output to your = guitar amp=20 and

the right to the PA.

Good luck!

Christo

www.christojota.de

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Alexandre = Leger=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20

Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 = 12:02=20 AM

Subject: RC-50 multiple = outputs?

Hey everyone,

Brand new to this list, but = not to=20 looping. I've been using an RC-50 for a little over a year now = and it's=20 been great, however I have a question that I can't find the answer to=20 anywhere.

I play guitar, keys, and vox, into the looper, and = want to=20 be able to separate what comes out. I want to be able to send = the guitar=20 to my guitar amp to keep the tone, but I want to send the keys and vox = to the=20 PA. Is this possible? I know I can send the phrases = independently=20 to each output, but I can't seem to find away to divide where each = input goes.=20

Cheers,

Alex

--
My music is = at http://www.bewaretheleopard.com<= /A>=20
Be sure to check it out and sign up for the mailing=20 list!

------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C9F32F.4FDD3780-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 22 11:13:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC5F23BE78; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:13:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4D14B29999084F6A957251FCAD96D985@pcfabio> From: "eterogeneo" To: References: <4A3D4574.7030601@cruzio.com> <9ea2f30b0906201617r51582a74tfb6077cf1b0f7af@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Soundtoys (was Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:13:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0131_01C9F33B.31EEBF80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: smtp3.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:13:17 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0131_01C9F33B.31EEBF80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After an afternoon session I did with Per a few weeks ago, I've fall in = love with those SoundToys plugins, expecially Echoboy and Crystalizer. So I've checked their website and me too noticed they are overpriced, = till you buy the native effects pack ($495), then you will pay each = plugin about $ 99, that is a reasonable price. So it's an issue of market policy they are adopting. The sound of those plugins is really of the highest levels...it's a real = temptation. Fabio=20 www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Todd Matthews=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 1:17 AM Subject: Re: Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and I think overpriced and I know the Soundtoys collection needs an ilok = usb key to work so I assume that the crystallizer by itself would also = need the ilok key. I demo'ed the soundtoys and they sound great but I = only have 2 usb's on my macbook white, those are used up in my looping = setup and I thought if I was ever willing to spend 500 for plug-ins that = money could go a lot further elsewhere. I was only really interested in = the echo boy plug but that is also 350 if you buy it seperately from the = collection. This is an unrelated plug-in to the Crystallizer but I'm demoing 'More = Feedback Machine 2' right now from U-he because I'm testing out = different delays. It sounds awesome, and it's 79 bucks. Todd Matthews On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Rick Walker = wrote: Per suggested, amongst other things, the SoundToy's Crystallizer = plugin. I was curious so I looked it up. They are charging $350 for a = plugin that uses a single effect from an earlier 80's version of an Eventide = Harmonizer. Doesn't that seem extremely overpriced or is it just me? -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.80/2187 - Release Date: = 06/19/09 06:53:00 ------=_NextPart_000_0131_01C9F33B.31EEBF80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
After an afternoon = session I did=20 with Per a few weeks ago, I've fall in love with those SoundToys = plugins,=20 expecially Echoboy = and=20 Crystalizer.

So I've checked their = website and=20 me too noticed they are overpriced, till you buy the native effects pack = ($495),=20 then you will pay each plugin about $ 99, that is a reasonable = price.

So it's an issue of = market policy=20 they are adopting.

The sound of those = plugins is=20 really of the highest levels...it's a real temptation.

Fabio
www.eterogeneo.com
www.myspace.com/eterogeneo=

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Todd=20 Matthews
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 = 1:17 AM

Subject: Re: Augustus Loop, = Little Spacy=20 and

I think overpriced and I know the Soundtoys = collection=20 needs an ilok usb key to work so I assume that the crystallizer by = itself=20 would also need the ilok key. I demo'ed the soundtoys and they sound = great but=20 I only have 2 usb's on my macbook white, those are used up in my = looping=20 setup and I thought if I was ever willing to spend 500 for plug-ins = that money=20 could go a lot further elsewhere. I was only really interested in the = echo boy=20 plug but that is also 350 if you buy it seperately from the=20 collection.

This is an unrelated plug-in to the Crystallizer = but I'm=20 demoing 'More Feedback Machine 2' right now from U-he because I'm = testing out=20 different delays. It sounds awesome, and it's 79 bucks.

Todd=20 Matthews

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Rick Walker = <looppool@cruzio.com> = wrote:

Per=20 suggested, amongst other things, the SoundToy's Crystallizer=20 plugin.

I was curious so I looked it up. = They are=20 charging $350 for a plugin that
uses a single effect from = an=20 earlier 80's version of an Eventide Harmonizer.

Doesn't that = seem=20 extremely overpriced or is it just = me?

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------=_NextPart_000_0131_01C9F33B.31EEBF80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 22 11:38:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EAF93BE75; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1awU1djDlVUWIEJ0WsuIujXJtJFq9CuNHjArbAq4JK0=; b=Zv7ykJu/m8GfAGN8Wdh6fl5hjktTomCBV76mqYBbTr5PWunIUk/OdFIONfuZ5O5gjL BC7rQB/MR457B/Yn5T3b7OUxDf+9K2i1TmWq0b3I014hpCmlRhCeWeclivwfeXjI4IL6 ObzR/x6YdkB3ZyzJLyoPdSZVp3PdI7J14CRXA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LQFgC4rh436cpJFQxjI96j1t4jaGmWGCdcug5dDdhHdF2OQgbgSoUtKA+3WCWEFtTj W7dIx9IQjWhyUQpzaCGEmDWBeQR+r6GXBXs9GzXusJ3paB06BJdhfmUVfdjtfM6eJ4EN 7akdQcDJQWWXhvf/avojQXqQQ+FWVYT8FFspw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D14B29999084F6A957251FCAD96D985@pcfabio> References: <4A3D4574.7030601@cruzio.com> <9ea2f30b0906201617r51582a74tfb6077cf1b0f7af@mail.gmail.com> <4D14B29999084F6A957251FCAD96D985@pcfabio> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:38:21 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906220438y498a7331tdbbc3d5ca0165a3f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Soundtoys (was Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:38:22 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:13 PM, eterogeneo wrote: > So I've checked their website and me too noticed they are overpriced, til= l > you buy the native effects pack ($495), then=C2=A0you will pay each plugi= n about > $=C2=A099, that is a reasonable price. > So it's an issue of market policy they are adopting. > The sound of those plugins is really of the highest levels...it's a real > temptation. The Eventide Eclipse was $ 2775 and it doesn't even work inside a laptop! I'm not against "free stuff" in general but I'm definitely pro decent pricing where it guarantees that talented people will keep on providing awesome tools that I use in my art. For anyone that knows what the SoundToys plug-ins offers and that wants to work with those tools, I think it is well worth the money to buy the Native Bundle. I also like that the license is carried on an iLok which takes away all the hassle in using different computers. For a person that is just "checking out cool sounds" I agree that the price might be too high compared to those free VSTs mocked up in Synth-Edit. I don't follow the trend to assemble as many free plug-ins as possible from the internet. To me it has proven more productive to use quite few tools, stick with quality and put some effort into learning these few tools well. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 22 12:18:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F053E3BE73; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=0zF1WrULuma3ZtAz0q9mGeqb1WKFWGAlfXT3pAFQ2Ak=; b=YqsN1PahivSLM6N/oxZLwiQhihJM+etSAwJqAA1fE3e2eyT0SDdv0oe0Xulyc1b9wh Qnt92RPvPrLEs6s95Lu0lWbG53UwGlZZEDPXM6fw6trrGypEB9IiD3TApL/TAek/SmT6 a3Tc4LnaNiui8ZM0VfPGyCOQtCaOc+LFZQ6gc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=hBIn1rh2PTod5cG3wXF9+h95DXi50z2FWegAJKTjkpD9UtJMK4X5JqHEPYJ9HHwOMP bCBPc/kveo1DgExygWOfV0ihCypVBbxTmWZevh5K+xYVMif9QMz5ZlPTfif/Kz8snrwg CsYky+iAxlQ9z0Alem2jCyqwVJzPp02ODjgZ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906220438y498a7331tdbbc3d5ca0165a3f@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A3D4574.7030601@cruzio.com> <9ea2f30b0906201617r51582a74tfb6077cf1b0f7af@mail.gmail.com> <4D14B29999084F6A957251FCAD96D985@pcfabio> <66f9cc1e0906220438y498a7331tdbbc3d5ca0165a3f@mail.gmail.com> From: mark francombe Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:18:31 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 73abd592734d5da6 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0906220518l76f0a3bdv600d6a2f0503deda@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Soundtoys (was Augustus Loop, Little Spacy and) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be6ea7c46a8046ceee07d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:18:52 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be6ea7c46a8046ceee07d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > . For > a person that is just "checking out cool sounds" I agree that the > price might be too high compared to those free VSTs mocked up in > Synth-Edit. > > I don't follow the trend to assemble as many free plug-ins as possible > from the internet. To me it has proven more productive to use quite > few tools, stick with quality and put some effort into learning these > few tools well. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > I agree Per... the computer software world is always expecting something for nothing, if it wasnt possible EVER to crack or hack anything, no one would be complaining about these prices, they are completely reasonable when you compare them to hardware equivalents... Only thing I would say is that when I was doing computer music, the VSTs I liked the best were the ones made in SynthEdit!!! Often the huge corporations making the real PRO gear were (and are) thinking about their customers and it was the little guys who made all the cool shit... My suggestion, PAY for the stuff you really need to be high quality , Reverbs, delays, EQs and compressors, AND have a collection of weird free stuff that gets pulled out on rainy days... Mark -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0015174be6ea7c46a8046ceee07d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
. For
a person that is just "checking out cool sounds" I agree that the=
price might be too high compared to those free VSTs mocked up in
Synth-Edit.

I don't follow the trend to assemble as many free plug-ins as possible<= br> from the internet. To me it has proven more productive to use quite
few tools, stick with quality and put some effort into learning these
few tools well.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

I agree Per... the computer software world is= always expecting something for nothing, if it wasnt possible EVER to crack= or hack anything, no one would be complaining about these prices, they are= completely reasonable when you compare them to hardware equivalents...

Only thing I would say is that when I was doing computer music, the VST= s I liked the best were the ones made in SynthEdit!!! Often the huge corpor= ations making the real PRO gear were (and are) thinking about their custome= rs and it was the little guys who made all the cool shit...

My suggestion, PAY for the stuff you really need to be high quality , R= everbs, delays, EQs and compressors, AND have a collection of weird free st= uff that gets pulled out on rainy days...

Mark

--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtub= e.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--0015174be6ea7c46a8046ceee07d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 22 13:00:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 676FD3BE7C; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:00:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <019301c9f339$5f52b0f0$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: OT : 8 khz noise problem Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:00:09 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0190_01C9F352.846D6740" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:00:20 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0190_01C9F352.846D6740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey, since we have a great number of guitarists on board, i would like to ask = something. i have the 3 moog pedals ( low pass filter, freq box, murf ) that were = bought in usa with 110v. when i connect them with seperate voltage = converters, there is not a problem. a technician friend of mine has made = a unit that is connected to these 3 units and convert the voltage. but = now i get a steady 8 khz frequency when these pedals are on. a very = annoying sounds which is loud too. i have never experienced this kind of = noise before. any ideas about it? thanks as always and best regards. p.s. by the way, check out the "signal to noise" magazine summer issue = for an interview about me and 2 photos from my studio in istanbul! Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Wounded Breath" album is out now on Aucourant Records: www.aucourantrecords.com "wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and=20 allow you to explore worlds previously closed to you." Blogcritics, Richard Marcus "wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, period." Massimo Ricci, touching extremes ------=_NextPart_000_0190_01C9F352.846D6740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey,

since we have a great number of guitarists on board, i would like = to ask=20 something.

i have the 3 moog pedals ( low pass filter, freq box, murf ) that = were=20 bought in usa with 110v. when i connect them with seperate voltage = converters,=20 there is not a problem. a technician friend of mine has made a unit that = is=20 connected to these 3 units and convert the voltage. but now i get a=20 steady 8 khz frequency when these pedals are on. a very annoying = sounds=20 which is loud too. i have never experienced this kind of noise before. = any ideas=20 about it?

thanks as always and best regards.

p.s. by the way, check out the "signal to noise" magazine summer = issue for=20 an interview about me and 2 photos from my studio in istanbul!

Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Wounded Breath" album is out = now on=20 Aucourant Records:
www.aucourantrecords.com

"wounded breath album will open you up to new experiences and =
allow you=20 to explore worlds previously closed to you."
Blogcritics, Richard=20 Marcus

"wounded breath is an outstanding acousmatic record, = period."
Massimo=20 Ricci, touching extremes
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------=_NextPart_000_0156_01C9F362.0275D0F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 22 19:29:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3830B3BE78; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 219001020/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.176.168/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.176.168 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtsBAFt4P0pPTrCo/2dsb2JhbAAI0QOECgWJAA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,270,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="219001020" Message-ID: <4A3FDEB1.4070600@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:42:41 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT : 8 khz noise problem References: <019301c9f339$5f52b0f0$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> In-Reply-To: <019301c9f339$5f52b0f0$0500000a@ERDEMOLD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hey, > > since we have a great number of guitarists on board, i would like to ask > something. > > i have the 3 moog pedals ( low pass filter, freq box, murf ) that were > bought in usa with 110v. when i connect them with seperate voltage > converters, there is not a problem. a technician friend of mine has made > a unit that is connected to these 3 units and convert the voltage. but > now i get a steady 8 khz frequency when these pedals are on. a very > annoying sounds which is loud too. i have never experienced this kind of > noise before. any ideas about it? So, are you using the Moog PSUs with a 250>>110 converter? Or is the device made by your friend a 250AC>>9V dc convertor. Either way, if you just started using this new converter and the problem suddenly appeared then it's probably the cause. Presumably the 8k tone isn't just being generated by the lo-pass ;-) (It does that so beautifully) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 22 19:52:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7035C3BE71; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:52:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Omid Shirazi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10--1042327312 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Offtopic: Violence in Iran Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:52:08 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:52:10 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-10--1042327312 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, an off-topic mail here... As you surely have seen on the news, these days the islamic republic of Iran is killing the people, who just want a little freedom to live like an human. And this goes on since 30 years now!!! The young people inside Iran have made this resistance possible by internet and modern media (by the way the censorship-filters on internet for ayatollahs are delivered from USA!!!). So please support the people as you can. For example post this thread: http://reunifygally.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/help-iran/ Or however you can! There is no peace in the world until people are suppressed somewhere on the planet... Thanx and love, Omid audio visual artist mailto: smoking@guru-records.com phone: +49-178-78 52 223 --Apple-Mail-10--1042327312 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi = Everybody,

an off-topic mail = here...

As you surely have seen on the news, = these days the islamic republic of Iran is killing the people, who just = want a little freedom to live like an human.
And this goes on = since 30 years now!!!

The young people inside = Iran have made this resistance possible by internet and modern media (by = the way the censorship-filters on internet for ayatollahs are delivered = from USA!!!).
So please support the people as you can. For = example post this thread:
http://re= unifygally.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/help-iran/

Or however you can! There is no peace in the world until people = are suppressed somewhere on the = planet...

Thanx and = love,
Omid

audio visual = artist
mailto: smoking@guru-records.com
phone: +49-178-78 52 223
=

= --Apple-Mail-10--1042327312-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 00:25:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98FEC3BE7C; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:25:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A4020D6.8050709@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:24:54 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT Olympus LS-10 PCM stereo recorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9jPqTB.A.WdC.fDCQKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:25:03 +0000 (UTC) I truly love my Olympus digital recorder and just stumbled on this amazing deal on them that I thought I'd pass on to you all. I've never seen them sold so inexpensivelyl. http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Olympus-LS10-Linear-PCM-Recorder?sku=245172OT Personally, I think this unit trumps the M Audio and the Zoom in the similar price category. It has an onboard 2 gig harddrive which is enough for an hour of 24/96k recording at a concert and it takes flash cards up to 16 gigs. Onboard microphones are excellent and also accepts line in stereo. It's really easy to use and it's ruggedly built and small (fits in your pocket). I can't say enough good things about it and I was stoked to find it online for $350. They're selling them for $300 currently. That's a steal for what it is. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 00:32:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A9CC3BE75; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A40228A.8010902@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:32:10 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT Olympus LS-10 PCM stereo recorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Holy moly, I didn't even read the fine print. If you buy it, they have a rebate that will provide you with a free 4 gig flash memory card. That's 3 hours of 24bit/96k audio recording onboard............not bad. http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Olympus-LS10-Linear-PCM-Recorder?sku=245172OT From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 02:15:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF4E43BE7C; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:15:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 356 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:15:43 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=u5ANDsQpZHlEmrmq+kfe4s5susitN3Pny3+6CmtvIWg=; b=X6RhWF4aGV2Tz11B90iBZ7Cbm0n80eRgYjNkimxpEL1Z+JJI1u+ibDJnPxxgwHuh4e usysOFKmfsRk1f6IaRv45D3XSTPoEc2Q5sWCISVLbMNc9w8sSPN6AH6Y6CbR3yNMgEq8 4oBnVqRAgJCvrxSBgiCKXdscJPV4fF3m3sgF8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=q2qbrPyk3yzqS+Jjv+ifdsEf/S1BicQIsDDwcpRUCHq79TL/mardsS6s8JRdNgjlup mGxTLedfwEScrA/3km0xYRCNnIRgge07fsDmgPcXr5MSmrk90KPPODw8YCGlum+jAFew XTZc73ZpqKr+4+dZz3HN6apz9lM8GNJXa40A8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A40228A.8010902@cruzio.com> References: <4A40228A.8010902@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:09:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT Olympus LS-10 PCM stereo recorder From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:15:43 +0000 (UTC) ... how noisy is the 3.5 mm mini-jack mic preamp, Rick? 2009/6/23, Rick Walker : > > Holy moly, I didn't even read the fine print. > If you buy it, they have a rebate that will provide you with a free 4 > gig flash memory card. > That's 3 hours of 24bit/96k audio recording onboard............not bad. > > > http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Olympus-LS10-Linear-PCM-Recorder?sku=245172OT > > > > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 02:50:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99D9C3BE7F; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:50:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1245725436; bh=YyZTJwNhZOx916OP1TR5oN9ovg44x4Zzt7TF3D8lI4Y=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=n0IbY+8doJaupiCPRs9mkmvkU1GGAbEjXVhN2dD1A0rB3SCS3G2xcWeFH+mw+FBdzoRfUBLrbGDeclle0dXpi8r6tdg7Gg7zsgSEdTF6opWrBWR3PegRt53jCrs15WKPgBx2esHGFco4SdPyiw4EvETF+TatPtxjpi457AdCSMo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZuCX+W7UdTJH6ThJsb3RS/OgdkcbG4kXDSY45sMJmrIDoGFKZSZ72ArM7KkZUPjfbptY/IIEXMQc07fSTI7C/wX3KE24wrR+7BNg2Yva0Anvt84SgEDXnUj3B9xGi76n4uxwSVY7DtmAOexErnhOx4/sY/k40Po+Ea8xcLccACo=; Message-ID: <216854.45517.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:50:35 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: octave shifter for winds To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:50:37 +0000 (UTC) it also seems to have a bit of a volume drop out when you use the pure bass= low octave,no? > I thought the Micro Pog actually had quite noticeable > latency just on > the pitch up octave. > I also didn't like the out of tuneness of the high octave, > which > I guess is designed for "12 guitar string" sound. >=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 03:12:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA1903BE75; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:12:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1245726751; bh=P2F6Z+HNW7n91vkOniOQit5EzzPOSRNEWMy1NlT1v/s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QsF0oTidn6ztDNWiirxzPRpyCEleqwTogknFovkg661invqU7dHzRsPKioF/xj0O0YzmHsKvmoMg0S3jCOPWF+i1DEzIrANGXOQs3Xbxnh6P1FyPpdlwdRPaf7j1izSU7gQOxjpxIPtxUFHB8EKsS0u2XXmuILzSL6JF6PrfbBo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=M6IWBHLPuwezmOYBtpolihxRHbWiAA9JcRl9ql3oI10wo3FTx3pfouZiZlQ1HUbI8Rutqj6Wq11vf/qVESBsJUPyixrKsxj1V97SXs2yprgetM1RBFO25/OTCYM7nFPIOZJgfYTjG/ynpVJaMMuiZPvGkdiCEPab6Pzm07TkdSE=; Message-ID: <630667.4476.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:12:31 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: TC electronic interface To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:12:32 +0000 (UTC) yes,i called the company and they confirmed that it has some compability is= sues with certain chipsets,the motu ultralite also has some midi sync issue= s, i was using it with a macbook and a drum machine and was very unstable,i= ended up returning it and i am happy again with the little good ol inexpen= sive presonus firebox! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- paul schrieb am Di, 16.6.2009: > Von: paul > Betreff: TC electronic interface > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Dienstag, 16. Juni 2009, 19:46 > Hi, > I've been looking for a half rack size interface. I've > checked out the Motu ultralight but had some compatibility > issues and wondered if anyone has used the TC electronic > Konnekt 24 http://www.tcelectronic.com/default.asp?id=3D11055 . 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OBAMA'S FOUNDATION From info@america.net Tue Jun 23 06:50:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from plato.arts.usyd.edu.au (plato.arts.usyd.edu.au [129.78.16.1]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E553BE73; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:50:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by plato.arts.usyd.edu.au (Postfix, from userid 1288) id 43ADC159EF0; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:31:55 +1000 (EST) Received: from 41.191.108.130 ([41.191.108.130]) by horde.arts.usyd.edu.au (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:31:33 +1000 Message-ID: <20090623123133.tiz749jrk0cc0044@horde.arts.usyd.edu.au> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:31:33 +1000 From: OBAMA'S FOUNDATION Reply-to: mrsroselinewood@aim.com To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Reply Me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Greetings to you, On behalf of the Obama's Foundation, we wish to notify you as a beneficiary = of $99,000.00 USD in compensation of scam victims.Do contact HSBC INTERNATIONAL BANK, United Kingdom Branch for verification and release of your =20 $99,000.00 USD that we have deposited with the HSBC BANK,UK. 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OBAMA'S FOUNDATION From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 07:15:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BB543BE7E; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:15:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 215669683/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.243.128/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.243.128 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0BAKIdQEpPRvOA/2dsb2JhbAAIzwmECgWJBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,274,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="215669683" Message-ID: <4A40845F.70901@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:29:35 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: octave shifter for winds References: <216854.45517.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <216854.45517.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:15:59 +0000 (UTC) L.Angulo wrote: > it also seems to have a bit of a volume drop out when you use the pure bass low octave,no? > Sorry, didn't check that. I guess it would depend very much on any eq or amp settings after the pedal. I always keep a look out for sub-oct devices for my looping rig, but so far I've stuck with just using EQ, single coil p/u, and playing technique to make bass lines. Stephen Scott makes some very nice bassisms with his Korg AX3000, I wonder if Korg have that algorithm in a smaller device. andy >> I thought the Micro Pog actually had quite noticeable >> latency just on >> the pitch up octave. >> I also didn't like the out of tuneness of the high octave, >> which >> I guess is designed for "12 guitar string" sound. >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 08:30:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BCF03BE7E; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1245745847; l=6426; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:References:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=0k28ET/FTyHJDCzAQ0zDpiBoZPw=; b=lwjKOTxRIV17hdmNSCLe40UqUv1IwRUiSKsTkYfDtNyudk6uGr2ZAEKaxvAMOUk2kWB AqJ7O6hOxQKPwDv1ogPgDyVoCeracW6OuD/XGdf+Lc6EzzfUROfZEWwcZ9VmgzJoAYeDG FGHJFVVeiAZP63/cxIx55VaCFWEi4QQbW4o= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <00d401c9f3dd$5b1cb5e0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: References: Subject: Re: Offtopic: Violence in Iran Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:31:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C8_01C9F3ED.B9665560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <4J4VvD.A.hbE.5KJQKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:30:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C8_01C9F3ED.B9665560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That=B4s really a shame, Omid. I read it in the newspaper and see it on TV. The elections in your country probably haven=B4t been = correctly.=20 I hope your country will soon have the same democratic structures like = we have them here in most of Europe.=20 There is so many oppression and violence in this world.=20 Me as a friend of buddhism is taking care of the situation in Tibet. This also is a nation that has been oppressed for so long.=20 If anyone=B4s interested please have a look in the internet www.savetibet.org Maybe this world would be a bit more peaceful if the people would care = more about music/art/culture than power and money. Have a nice day! Christo www.christojota.de ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Omid Shirazi=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:52 PM Subject: Offtopic: Violence in Iran Hi Everybody, an off-topic mail here... As you surely have seen on the news, these days the islamic republic = of Iran is killing the people, who just want a little freedom to live = like an human. And this goes on since 30 years now!!! The young people inside Iran have made this resistance possible by = internet and modern media (by the way the censorship-filters on internet = for ayatollahs are delivered from USA!!!). So please support the people as you can. For example post this thread: http://reunifygally.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/help-iran/ Or however you can! There is no peace in the world until people are = suppressed somewhere on the planet...=20 Thanx and love, Omid audio visual artist mailto: smoking@guru-records.com phone: +49-178-78 52 223 ------=_NextPart_000_00C8_01C9F3ED.B9665560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That=B4s really a shame, Omid. I read = it in the=20 newspaper and

see it on TV. The elections in your = country=20 probably haven=B4t been correctly. =

I hope your country will soon have = the same democratic structures like we have them = here=20 in most of Europe.

There is so many oppression and = violence=20 in this world.

Me as a friend of buddhism is = taking care=20 of

the situation in Tibet. This also is a = nation that=20 has been

oppressed for so long.

If anyone=B4s interested please have a = look in the=20 internet

www.savetibet.org

Maybe this world would be a bit more = peaceful if=20 the people would care more

about music/art/culture than power and=20 money.

Have a nice day!

Christo

www.christojota.de

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Omid=20 Shirazi

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20

Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 = 9:52 PM

Subject: Offtopic: Violence in = Iran

Hi Everybody,

an off-topic mail here...

As you surely have seen on the news, these days the islamic = republic of=20 Iran is killing the people, who just want a little freedom to live = like an=20 human.

And this goes on since 30 years now!!!

The young people inside Iran have made this resistance possible = by=20 internet and modern media (by the way the censorship-filters on = internet for=20 ayatollahs are delivered from USA!!!).

So please support the people as you can. For example post this=20 thread:

http://r= eunifygally.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/help-iran/

Or however you can! There is no peace in the world until = people are=20 suppressed somewhere on the planet...

Thanx and love,

Omid

audio visual artist

mailto: smoking@guru-records.com
phone: +49-178-78 52=20 223

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 14:42:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 286243BE81; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=k4d9MW2AckIiNELl3N4aT94qW/xY3T0QYZsP9i9ev1Q=; b=ao8M/HwwEzL6H/pGIDFbHKT/3HjClkPuSVTRWE0WMe728aTa5RoXh3e37jaPUCklFh 8vXb/78R9eq4QXMpm0MajcHVt7M77+32ZA9gf0O3luJlIw5eSdsrQMyTwVNvv5uTUiNL cMjQgcJbXXGo5pX0s3Es7mH/LxN6q4rlNzR/0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lwJVD/euKrBGMGTpZ5xa6OOb6WRwlpf3MO3ar/zjGM3+aGQS+zfBqpkvQOO5j3wa4m vPaT3K6Cqzjn4Og+UCq7Vw7E2WTDxYzCkLxWibpLimK2J1vk7mKj8tB1hrKZns5FvbTZ h308OEsurKF4eF58+zvb9V3MO4/04jvsfzBqA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:42:53 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1adb0cc04c80a3d3 Message-ID: Subject: another FCB1010/AL looping script From: Os To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3mWKyC.A.1iC.unOQKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:42:55 +0000 (UTC) http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=254887 cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 15:18:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE2CE3BE81; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:18:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=h0GSGK9A2352xl9xidG8w2Sjkyq1MP76nKjNa002HKw=; b=hGgMoaEXm7N9MtHTmw5/X8yW2FmqOPrV9S3FO+8ixE9SIMrbvKwESoRdE64nxj3Qk2 +I0izA5aen0nrRi+A+zreBc5vBruDQIw6TTs+Q2/+Hs9xdbfQjGpw/oQvC73PgY6wkjk iNoakjVia8DIlaUANBLkjkPYfDTGUMBIRoHzQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=poaAcAZqMG7xYlv0/hiBffsqGoYeuylaGaLfwrhW0W/I/itSuE3hCU+QuY4tthnat+ thJKuNp9mcQJfZxUWk00ePb5HLYxTa9aFlfvvI+dZTyu5AsGBStgt7NBeS9aPbwQCnnZ QuPoHcBTAKhD2SeklUaymDyzTxqiZM+1jnrq8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:18:14 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906230818m11883a12t8b175c094187ee20@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: another FCB1010/AL looping script From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0xnGnD.A.DdD.2IPQKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:18:14 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Os wrote: > http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=254887 Cool! Downloading to test. I just decided to set something up with AL to use its continuous pitch shift function that no other looper offers in software. Thinking about using three parallel loopers and pitch shift them into triad chords with more or less inertia in the process (think "THX sound jingle") Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From simply_flowers@bellnet.ca Tue Jun 23 17:50:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2263 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:50:35 UTC Received: from tomts29-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts29-srv.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.103]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5C03BE75 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:50:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from toip38-bus.srvr.bell.ca ([67.69.240.39]) by tomts31-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20090623171235.CRFZ22814.tomts31-srv.bellnexxia.net@toip38-bus.srvr.bell.ca>; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:12:35 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApqTAJOoQErR4q+H/2dsb2JhbACEK4oKNcRKg3UFhmI Received: from tofep3.bellnexxia.net (HELO smtp.bellnexxia.net) ([209.226.175.135]) by toip38-bus.srvr.bell.ca with SMTP; 23 Jun 2009 13:12:33 -0400 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.11 (webedge20-101-194-20030622) X-Originating-IP: [200.65.129.2] From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?qQ==?= Mr.Spencer Reply-To: dr.williamsspencer32@live.com Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?B?qQ==?= Mr.Spencer To: Subject: ***Congratulations*** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:12:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20090623171235.CRFZ22814.tomts31-srv.bellnexxia.net@toip38-bus.srvr.bell.ca> 1,350,000.00 pounds has been award to you in the PROMOTION,send us yourNames/Tel/Address/Country dr.williamsspencer32@live.com From simply_flowers@bellnet.ca Tue Jun 23 17:50:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from tomts29-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts29-srv.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.103]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804DE3BE75 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:50:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from toip37-bus.srvr.bell.ca ([67.69.240.38]) by tomts44-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20090623171252.CFNI1576.tomts44-srv.bellnexxia.net@toip37-bus.srvr.bell.ca>; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:12:52 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApqTAHOqQErR4q+H/2dsb2JhbACEK4oJNcQ/g3UFhmI Received: from tofep3.bellnexxia.net (HELO smtp.bellnexxia.net) ([209.226.175.135]) by toip37-bus.srvr.bell.ca with SMTP; 23 Jun 2009 13:12:33 -0400 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.11 (webedge20-101-194-20030622) X-Originating-IP: [200.65.129.2] From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?qQ==?= Mr.Spencer Reply-To: dr.williamsspencer32@live.com Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?B?qQ==?= Mr.Spencer To: Subject: ***Congratulations*** Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:12:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20090623171252.CFNI1576.tomts44-srv.bellnexxia.net@toip37-bus.srvr.bell.ca> 1,350,000.00 pounds has been award to you in the PROMOTION,send us yourNames/Tel/Address/Country dr.williamsspencer32@live.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 19:39:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22D1A3BE78; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090623153956.41154kc5f7m9cmuc@www.wightman.ca> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:39:56 -0400 From: phaslem@wightman.ca To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT motu issues resolved References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) X-Originating-IP: 216.16.232.115 X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; GTB6; .NET CLR 1.1.4322) Resent-Message-ID: <5t4dMB.A.42G.N-SQKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Thanks to everyone about the motu issues I was having. The store asked me to try a motu 8pre that they got in and it worked with no issues whatever. I was hoping to get a 1/2 rack unit but it works well and it talks nicely with my yamaha o3d via adat and that will allow me to interface the digital mixer with my computer next time I record or want to do a live recording. So all in all I'm quite pleased. It only has a stereo out and a headphone out but I can use the adat out if I really need more. Paul Haslem Ontario, Canada www.dulcify.ca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 19:58:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92FE33BE86; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:58:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1245787104; bh=ZlFWUOg+xyMT+5M66QzVLkCsSCC0LrE/GONk4WnFvPU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=5ZYGZ+Jun61QBb3tmNfHcUfR8YW52mK7/J1aiXiaRxb6TCuXRkIqV6Iif6hOu4uvjWLLVwlP3s9Njyj8h1AtXhJgBV6jDAj2foSoqMuy7H7BVptZGl12eNC1LreplUCeiOvtRcXX5vgaarGY+gv/WUQnRZBk+dAaq+RdE9oOfO8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0MnkUduSUKNcT2HPCgrsP5NSQoCLw+Z5mSx7Z/VwPODY5UWIJw0pTYi1uX0WtQSTwGf8MOIsI68cP8hBVMAUK4udkhCVsfsRPrP6oh1xhNZyEFBrfSFmJ5G5UVYKEt64PyQ9hPuoR4spFO06M6HjCPT796WHYfIR8X7D2SHnq64=; Message-ID: <249686.4510.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:58:24 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Offtopic: Violence in Iran To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4XsMiD.A.L5.hPTQKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:58:25 +0000 (UTC) Same wishes here Omid,Iran has such an admirable ancient history and cultur= e and is so sad to see it being ruined and destroyed by megalomaniac tirant= s Europe knows,they have gone through it... Luis=20 > =20 > That=B4s really a shame, > Omid. I read it in the=20 > newspaper and > see it on TV. The > elections in your country=20 > probably haven=B4t been correctly.=20 > I hope your country will > soon have the same democratic structures like > we have them here=20 > in most of Europe. >=20 > There is so many > oppression and violence=20 > in this world. >=20 > Me as=A0a friend of > buddhism is taking care=20 > of > the situation in Tibet. > This also is a nation that=20 > has been > oppressed for so long. >=20 > If anyone=B4s interested > please have a look in the=20 > internet > www.savetibet.org > Maybe this world would be > a bit more peaceful if=20 > the people would care more > about music/art/culture > than power and=20 > money. > Have a nice > day! > Christo > www.christojota.de > =A0 >=20 > ----- Original Message > -----=20 > From:=20 > Omid=20 > Shirazi=20 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > =20 > Sent: Monday, June > 22, 2009 9:52 PM > Subject: Offtopic: > Violence in Iran > =20 > Hi Everybody, > =20 >=20 > an off-topic mail here... > =20 >=20 > As you surely have seen on the news, these days the > islamic republic of=20 > Iran is killing the people, who just want a little > freedom to live like an=20 > human. > And this goes on since 30 years now!!! > =20 >=20 > The young people inside Iran have made this > resistance possible by=20 > internet and modern media (by the way the > censorship-filters on internet for=20 > ayatollahs are delivered from USA!!!). > So please support the people as you can. For example > post this=20 > thread: > http://reunifygally.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/help-iran/ > =20 >=20 > Or=A0however you can! There is no peace in the > world until people are=20 > suppressed somewhere on the planet...=A0 > =20 >=20 > Thanx and love, > Omid > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > audio visual artist > mailto: smoking@guru-records.com > phone: +49-178-78 52=20 > 223 > =20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 21:04:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DE123BE84; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XyKupJsxdG1+g0BsxjhAt0xuZv7Xv0JbrM0wXpgRgFw=; b=i8S8zP6EpHMdYK/rr8+jIZkokGbAi5M8Ma56Uo3E1PQqxjODL/v2+EZpTT4bE5djg+ 8le3WflLYsNU1+d8cBSgd7i/SHfP6MIVyjiwPoEDywmeNvleeJb6+uvgrqE/uwTm5dKt 74QfPOpfnuj1KAlA+Ut8KBsdY7KdNm4yaMCUg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=dluY7qdzcM59FE1+xgRF9t4EFfg9SSayClTw5XzB91aLKzM3cusQXnh5IV5w3iNkRn OwVSSOnhY9uadpXKiDYeu/5stKn/DSXlLR+z2CtuNSP4jJi8nMMhv5v+xwDOxGoAx+Dz k61rycEuj0RQrXzS1n1puVyFq6U61AZAj0HAU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:04:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: another Cello looper From: Tony K To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:04:29 +0000 (UTC) I can't remember if anybody posted this guy's work yet. Very nice stuff. http://www.soloelectriccello.com/videos.htm -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 22:04:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25DB33BE7E; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:04:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CsjUVy42jlwRl+nSTARqme4K8cbpG6SRxYvtd97jpXI=; b=iXJoCQy7tWiWuCsVuYsTwoNQ4zy7RiUCA/oJLGDRT61BVVbNqRFCT0S6dw9l+UkkeX Mcr2EhcEaKeIYv9KWrvtGTA5bH5L/cMGPo2ssxnOE8+dTYqsfgzG+hIqCr8dsJSsjXLu P78AmHZZ05BWWk2G2YRa8S9T0SmR+7vc/d3I0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=aV8KFhMFoHSavRAffrf4/yNYhPm9qw4ZmUUpgacmsZHHRIe3VEaIsICxyA7Bm1VEXy CZc0UyTzTsbzhI9lSKbqJoDbUuOQdQHwiaL1d6Utf7hDKVoaghh3xOsJUv6HRX2J4pWB eoCh/Kn7eexegpPifRNDciPE0qRmUbe7H6eOk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:04:05 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1b3e8d8d2289a2e0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another Cello looper From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:04:08 +0000 (UTC) and if you like electric cello: http://www.tommcveety.com/ cheers, os. 2009/6/23 Tony K : > I can't remember if anybody posted this guy's work yet. =A0Very nice stuf= f. > > http://www.soloelectriccello.com/videos.htm > > -- > -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- > Tony > > --=20 os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 22:12:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CB0F3BE85; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dXAkSJw4qa2X16LQaYPXKumrcZDYDJ8yVphBAgdJWKg=; b=ShIDSyKN3NeSr7sUFlEdkd8LDx/YF4MCpgfJcnxOAbXHXqJJdRf4JBo8/Yf8MUToNP 0vHKxbu4Fsyg+bljAbYJOd5KaRHb28KF+CMd/+JbyUIDASBbkvH5th5qzZiUp492Ftwb 5vEB8lRfWeB9KQW3xAL7F2122kL9CMu4qNlUE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lp7Z8AdkfleO92EfM94a0MMaReS6i0TG6B3+rJ+6h+uIiYcPRSrne/ch+3iAIdo3d/ kQlecrjGoNrIQhdAXSfTH4xUajEXUEtIJSDO8hsT9p/G0OFg4rKabQ9yDEIBJirnT5fN O1TtKyFTFllpIyd6TR+hhfkhF4paolt2SJkf4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:12:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another Cello looper From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Cello, it's like the new guitar! I came across this woman a while ago and I love her stuff. Not really real time looping but since we're talking cellos... http://www.renamusic.com/2/home.php and of course there's always my pal Hank Roberts http://www.myspace.com/hankroberts On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Os wrote: > and if you like electric cello: > > http://www.tommcveety.com/ > > > cheers, > os. > > > 2009/6/23 Tony K : >> I can't remember if anybody posted this guy's work yet. =A0Very nice stu= ff. >> >> http://www.soloelectriccello.com/videos.htm >> >> -- >> -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- >> Tony >> >> > > > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 22:26:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CB2F3BE7F; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003401c9f451$96ff1e80$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Steve Moyes" To: References: Subject: Re: another Cello looper Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:26:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:26:02 +0000 (UTC) And here's another great looping/electronic cellist I've never seen mentiond here at LD - http://www.cellobela.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:12 PM Subject: Re: another Cello looper Cello, it's like the new guitar! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 23:09:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFD203BE7F; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:09:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1245798567; bh=2WqiD03b6kLjbbiD/kbDrVpcHoKr1kv90guQ96ifojA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CG1XdtRb8vzBLos3hEhSAJ/JM4ae00w+O/QD+ZrLJuGQU46qNPlm1BSiquDSwXVRtCg2OcS3bbW7qvWnGhefuJRf8d8LzO2SwD4rtEJ/se3M2fYrhpWZ0nyNA9cmah7B7eBRviD8eSarm2NSGp5GQeY6gVPcyMpBVe8pdZmwMWI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ip+ItOeQ/nF5/qcg7feEFvQr4H5TXXrTwUILAe071M9XCnEXDX9ryZnqoGIDaVm+SS8fvWBx1pjrxIAvfWydOBWkJBYxrlYAwJGcYRnFT+nZUaXk3SJ7n3PpMdTE9TVIViw+JBfFFcIfJPMTBHVBb/rYWtW+uXK1hqtv0ShFIPE=; Message-ID: <781952.58395.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:09:27 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: another Cello looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:09:28 +0000 (UTC) I like that multi effect on the first video how can that be achieve? ive se= en it in a couple of looping videos anybody knows with what program this ca= n be done? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Tony K schrieb am Di, 23.6.2009: > Von: Tony K > Betreff: another Cello looper > An: "loopers-delight" > Datum: Dienstag, 23. Juni 2009, 14:04 > I can't remember if anybody posted > this guy's work yet.=A0 Very nice stuff. >=20 > http://www.soloelectriccello.com/videos.htm >=20 > --=20 > -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- > Tony >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 23:27:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D0B73BE7E; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1245799664; bh=EXHnMJ+VCfGFCIjVf2P4qwDamjOxnOl1Fxuzij9PK2I=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=I41rQ6fZ1paWOK80/th6qwzslwdBWBeyAufrrV0siUhqniXaju8CAIKmHgAigGZKqEPoLH4sjiV6udmi5RCjKpEp5sBkV8B3fq+2QancP2UL7xb2msMbjUWXISnJ+czF1tP1wtgArGzWAOmGPDGapOOG0HTXbQ7nnsMFA5IunqI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=dfgKUztDV4qtnfLi4iM+mqKf9zNL/wE5zBpsCaitRpaERtQeSDziUQziAczbiVw/VXIDMsr43LBRHcQ57/69zIAwgcREB8YtO6PEWMGKv3PFqWmIvabdM49Fd7O21OEMQAB0DfdS8sQe26hmyfC/JRHSlNbp9Qr7TZgykcrhQD8=; Message-ID: <58247.5984.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:27:43 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: dual FX processors To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Hi gang, is there a 19 rack dual FX proccesor in other words 2 different effect proc= cesors in one,like having 2 different half rack ones to use as a pre and po= st FX? cheers Luis=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 23:37:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B6C93BE78; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:37:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4zp+s9UutwIPAMUWcnqVOEVil3IhzANz3CHgN0CC4vg=; b=DIg1UfG/sA7fwF6qz5UlenP+3YroSuXnutOI1eDEWkWvOEOxrJLWuQJEn6KPEOWsNZ R0FvEORth4Ia7vdv9m3wXDsZ8VUeLFxjGUmruJiUWx0OiaF7/N+wOK9ktrb9CWwVZrx0 BJbLkK+JZbQ5fmERfjvvpnoxUhHjH8m2d0pZk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ULZYWUujU6GU1r/1KQz5BkIYdkRbdbK06NpLYbF7xePHDl529w2d51ymXzXuAqIOKj wVuROdowCWlipCZAVxbDJozGF94hHGLcixNkWe0/fR3XuoHqkpvifqZ/97Lw6VijJQ2H Jreww2K/hN4ByYH4+IZEWToDp4/hH6yZqGrgI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <58247.5984.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <58247.5984.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:37:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: dual FX processors From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:37:17 +0000 (UTC) I'm not getting your meaning. Effects that are pre and post effects? I used to have a Lexicon MPX1 that had a good amount of routing possibilities. On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:27 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > > Hi gang, > is there a 19 rack dual FX proccesor in other words 2 different effect proccesors in one,like having 2 different half rack ones to use as a pre and post FX? > cheers > Luis > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 23:40:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46EF43BE80; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <58247.5984.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <58247.5984.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:40:30 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: dual FX processors Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:40:37 +0000 (UTC) At 11:27 PM +0000 6/23/09, L.Angulo wrote: >Hi gang, >is there a 19 rack dual FX proccesor in other words 2 different >effect proccesors in one,like having 2 different half rack ones to >use as a pre and post FX? >cheers Ensoniq DP/4 will do that. I think its little brother -- the DP/2 -- will as well if you can live with only 3 inputs. I seem to remember a similar Kawai unit from the 90's too, but I can't find any information on it just now. --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 23:45:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 050403BE80; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:45:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Lc1+B0MeteR0hcHZVeXQAT7y1Apj6lPHFoVfP8zRxCw=; b=P9WlUcA4p3kivHdVFYVrU42azPll0XQ4FfhheH9rCYj6yM4bBUlJmOkYM42YsNNVf4 O2+4tZNpVm8lyDDoqN0e/iZ2gZVE0GLqq1AKEVWEil65PIZVCf2bPbEpVW0JCjY3e8Bh cYrg+VrAv6sM1QNQCpLCLjr03pIdaf/166Vbw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QPcByef2f0idb0SuRJ8EBzCMZ/xTzeUu1C+ofiYAd4FbL4RT5TaoCaSshgTWHHiZHw U2I1m+a2LTzP+wumAiri2AAeyfDlC8OWD3Rmi4+kt6njmQMPm00PjRFgJhCd1ocVF35V tvANji/pkNerAC0QEVK0PEDAEH27Uw23oX8TI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <58247.5984.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:44:59 -0400 Message-ID: <44e368750906231644l3b54625btc02517856f73d7b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: dual FX processors From: james fowler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:45:02 +0000 (UTC) kurzweil's ksp8 is a multi-bus machine From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 23:50:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECF153BE75; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 962999.8813.bm@omp207.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1245801009; bh=StadMQS3iMF5ecP5Ve3heAfYMkb3GI3LgVY6TE3gyoY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Z+UufOIF2VYJVA3fsKgppWmrcMTv/chsf84ch8foWdzVYkoWh890ypN3DMFwIUGRD1/oi6ioyizU/Cz0lUG3oMVYDZQD5yQP8D3WrEZUTQuBBy17xFtfuoH4LF6EmLdX8ZpdiUKIlNRGznuJQhlC1N8qXDOxM5OsdxyVJeby9v0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=O4Mu46YYbnoa4MH5tPXAIhKyugWQlqUMcDM6B/bvNysb02tZdlorc2KVQUba+zBywjKh6ekVX35BOOiZpOGEda3xZJsoo+emfsFsIDyCQ5ljXyziAF1nY61r9xLKeeFmZ2sQFYl3aLbUD5YB8O11DZsprbgshZ9CHtRhZOwzSUE=; Message-ID: <762601.87053.qm@web45306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: O657EpwVM1lNfnXyWRd8cqkDwv7BLdlQu5GN50wxTaWDCGZfrtuE.QzL1u_RZ0KQ_cCMIelWvO72f_7hzf3aPcD9ftBtdp6.k0ckBGuEzNVZ8OCj0IXEe79eifyogS94b8LJogWyJqJw3.LYR8Ma8hDcb._f4pYVPVEdcuyIqZJfofVY4NOBy1a7g_UFtxUxoomIneFY0JDUNDz0GxibgSgNtqwBfiY8DgVeEtWsiLqOWat.nQIbmTh3BuTmdWZLSab0qTYEPz4ueU_k.JHe0HJJTy7j4A3kG6xkFUK3V0pRCqP7xTAxQrYG9o5_qYOz.4zjsVhcxTW7vVTbskILyQITg93FyTcRQFChcFI.hUFdsg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:50:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: dual FX processors To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:50:10 +0000 (UTC) The Lexicon MX200 can do that, depending on the position of the front panel routing switch. I also use a Fostex DE-1 that can do that, and it's already a half space, so I guess it's like two QUARTER space units in one box... -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 --- On Tue, 6/23/09, L.Angulo wrote: > is there a 19 rack dual FX proccesor in other words 2 > different effect proccesors in one,like having 2 different > half rack ones to use as a pre and post FX? > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 23 23:53:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB11E3BE7E; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <58247.5984.qm@web24304.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:52:59 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: dual FX processors Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:53:05 +0000 (UTC) At 8:40 AM +0900 6/24/09, Mech wrote: >At 11:27 PM +0000 6/23/09, L.Angulo wrote: >>Hi gang, >>is there a 19 rack dual FX proccesor in other words 2 different >>effect proccesors in one,like having 2 different half rack ones to >>use as a pre and post FX? >>cheers > >Ensoniq DP/4 will do that. I think its little brother -- the DP/2 >-- will as well if you can live with only 3 inputs. > >I seem to remember a similar Kawai unit from the 90's too, but I >can't find any information on it just now. Also, Digitech Studio Quad and Fostex DE-1 (only mono inputs, though). I've no actual hands-on with either of those units, though, so all standard disclaimers apply. --m. -- _____ "we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guide" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 00:42:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95C533BE80; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1245804147; bh=hyYxitgYM9FU5r8AXyIsV9mvJ+Bav5EmqnmPTDKeVvA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tg6o4ITBZB59EGY1ZJgFAUx3DM+Nzt8zWSW2klIx9pTCq8wNmEMVvGVQKuF1lXQRZ4KaMTs1txCE5arX0gPHf5C52iTeSUhW1hTukqwbJMI23ErUX6Y0Y+MdKnvj4PqEUD8Se/ZsswiUfhLlG+XHDGJB/AGXxqWJMq2d6lqduOs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fb9SMotbuV+d4SlAL1n4C/DqloESqGjtj1F6QAd7P/Cq6AEFaYj4xH7mgfdFilp6pjKugMqEoD93ReEokedGnXck8kB89BmyxNo+BrZer4UC2ALC5dwatuMGTKLjUuauMaqjmN3PSbR/88VwFZfQp90A3FVI6sEx6KfXYbG/GL8=; Message-ID: <285552.97449.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:42:26 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: dual FX processors To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:42:28 +0000 (UTC) for ex. if i wanted to process my instrument and go into a rackmount mixer = and then take the mixer stereo outs and route them back into the efx procce= ssor and go out straight into the speakers. (The auxs of the rackmount mixer would in this case be used for the looper) cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Mark Sottilaro schrieb am Di, 23.6.2009: > Von: Mark Sottilaro > Betreff: Re: dual FX processors > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Dienstag, 23. Juni 2009, 16:37 > I'm not getting your meaning.=A0 > Effects that are pre and post effects? > I used to have a Lexicon MPX1 that had a good amount of > routing > possibilities. >=20 > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:27 PM, L.Angulo > wrote: > > > > Hi gang, > > is there a 19 rack dual FX proccesor in other words 2 > different effect proccesors in one,like having 2 different > half rack ones to use as a pre and post FX? > > cheers > > Luis > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 02:27:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A05873BE80; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=bfI24PzM7CzjoVPooYdUOXWVdN8gMdj8yDQiDFZjIIFQe9LXVxUd29wFeSI8Ix3x; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <285552.97449.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <285552.97449.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:26:45 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: dual FX processors Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7984a39e06bd1dbaf8b7413c7b56dccd29350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.22.232.63 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Luis, The Ensoniq DP/4+ is the most useful and versatile for guitar, it has a 1/4" input on the front panel, great amp simulations and ring mod / delay / harmonizer /compressor algos for pre processing and lush reverbs for post. 4 in 4 out, full MIDI control of all parameters. > > > > Hi gang, >> > is there a 19 rack dual FX proccesor in other words 2 >> different effect proccesors in one,like having 2 different >> half rack ones to use as a pre and post FX? >> > cheers > > > Luis > -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 04:02:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99BCD3BE7C; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aWiVvpoguJlPDmETXqBKn2f8Akk26g30p/6CAMC0lQQ=; b=vZYx+xKtxRSlJrsqIza2LU/I2IKJU5efNm24bpGy8LoGs+g4OvkeTaOwLILIPAjlX6 8Vte0JNqgd6IeHW0CCN6Rq9HAV5o8QnwjA/hLvS4xAw4DYeLAcYcAX1Aqfth1fuw0it2 wAEaoxmKK1K9lmlpzG/OQkWwsvQoIqrLimbqk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qMlXlmVph2HeRXfyQGxJct9/tYcJ++wpBaDz32+pRiA9ekAJm3nRLk57rzsCQAf1aa Wm3s/1tfSVBb4o/XqwLapgWrEQHuJUvGG4ebhFp3v5cBNVvRpNX7b8E52Rs6LE3+ChKm +Td3A9isGa/Fuf8eGNV0tg1v9PXGKxHcmshS0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <285552.97449.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <285552.97449.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:02:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: dual FX processors From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Ah, I get it. I've done this for years but I've always just had two (or more) separate effect processors. You could just get two Boss VF-1s and mount them side by side and a single rack space processor. I've seen them going for $150ish on ebay lately so that would be a pretty powerful solution for not too much money. Issues like this are one of the reasons I became the poster child for the computer based looper. I can have an incredibly versatile set up that can change in a moment without me changing a single connection. Need two of the same effect? Run another instance of it. Changing the order of effects is as easy as drag and drop. I've got some tracks feeding Mobius, others feeding Augustus Loop with the ability to apply processing pre and post. The setup I'm talking about including software costs about what you'd pay for a Looperlative. On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:42 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > > for ex. if i wanted to process my instrument and go into a rackmount mixer and then take the mixer stereo outs and route them back into the efx proccessor and go out straight into the speakers. > (The auxs of the rackmount mixer would in this case be used for the looper) > cheers > Luis > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- Mark Sottilaro schrieb am Di, 23.6.2009: > >> Von: Mark Sottilaro >> Betreff: Re: dual FX processors >> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Datum: Dienstag, 23. Juni 2009, 16:37 >> I'm not getting your meaning. >> Effects that are pre and post effects? >> I used to have a Lexicon MPX1 that had a good amount of >> routing >> possibilities. >> >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:27 PM, L.Angulo >> wrote: >> > >> > Hi gang, >> > is there a 19 rack dual FX proccesor in other words 2 >> different effect proccesors in one,like having 2 different >> half rack ones to use as a pre and post FX? >> > cheers >> > Luis >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 04:56:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 208D33BE81; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A41B1DF.6080901@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:55:59 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: OT Olympus LS-10 PCM stereo recorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0o3g2B.A.WcE.nHbQKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Raul asked "... how noisy is the 3.5 mm mini-jack mic preamp, Rick?" I honestly don't know, Raul, having been very happy with the built in condenser mics and also , mostly using it straight off the board. I use these recordings for my releaseable CD projects (working on a follow up to Translucent Dayglo Lime Green Plastic as we speak, culling live tracks from the last two European tours and American dates I've done) and I haven't had complaints yet. I'm also not a golden ears person at all and I have some definite hi frequency dropoffs in my hearing from years of playing very loud rock and roll, but I have owned the MAudio and experienced the Zoom and I think it sounds very favorable next to them, and has a bunch of features that make it more attractive than both of those (notably the 2 gigs of onboard harddrive, fantastic for just running out the door) and the use of 2 AA batteries instead of the internal battery of the MAudio which I found really annoying and very unreliable. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 05:06:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B58F53BE86; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:06:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A41B465.904@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:06:45 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: octave shifter for winds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:06:53 +0000 (UTC) Boy, I have to jump in here and mention an amazing and extremely cheap octaver pedal made by Dan Electro called the Chili Dog. Like the Boss OC-2 it has a mixer for dry sound, one octave down and two octaves down and it just sounds much better to my ears than the Boss. Famed ECM bassist Arild Andersen asked me to procure him an OC-2 for his performance at the looping festival a couple of years ago. I did, but I also told him to try out the Chili Dog as well. He made me sell him mine when he left. The amazing thing? It goes for between $30 and $40 USD! I just love it but I have not tried it out on wind instruments yet. That reminds me, I should try it out on a trumpet, a xaphoon, a clarinet, a bansuri, a shakuhachi and a shenai and get back to everyone. For guitar, it is just stellar in my opinion. But I'm not a guitarist.............I just play one on TV. ((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))))) ps I love my Micro Pog, by the way, but it really is a synthesized note and NOT a harmonized note. It definitely has a bit of latency but I find it to be a musical latency. I heard Scout Nibblet play, using a Fender Mustang, a Micro Pog and a Big Muff and she had the best friggin' Octave fuzz sound I've ever heard with that combination. She just played the simplest chords and it rocked fiercely. I had a friend who got me a killer deal on the Micro Pog and I immediately bought one. Speaking of Scout, I love how raw and minimal she is. I can highly recommend her to anyone who loves raw and simple rock and roll. She also plays extremely crude but effective drumset and has some songs where she just sings acapella over a headbangingly simple drum beat. For me, it's as compelling as Howling Wolf in it's sheer emotional presence and powerful delivery. If musical naivite bugs you, stay far, far away from her. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 05:11:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D7193BE84; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:11:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6d303155-519c-46be-b8d7-00baa4f4851c_" X-Originating-IP: [207.119.219.151] From: FRO DIDDLY To: Subject: fbc1010 life expectancy - oh mr. per ..? Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:11:23 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4A41B465.904@cruzio.com> References: <4A41B465.904@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jun 2009 05:11:24.0055 (UTC) FILETIME=[38184A70:01C9F48A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:11:25 +0000 (UTC) --_6d303155-519c-46be-b8d7-00baa4f4851c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this is mostly for per=2C but thought others would like to know as well i remember you saying a while back your fbc #1 button finally kicked the bu= cket- my questions- how long did you have it=2C was it about 5 years of daily usa= ge? did it go out slowly..... or just suddenly stopped working? fro _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. 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Lauren found her dream laptop. <= a href=3D'http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=3Dftp_val_wl_290'= target=3D'_new'>Find the PC that=92s right for you. = --_6d303155-519c-46be-b8d7-00baa4f4851c_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 05:21:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66D703BE88; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4A41B7C7.2080500@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:21:11 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: another Cello looper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:21:19 +0000 (UTC) someone wrote (Mark Sottilaro? I couldn't tell from the digest): "I came across this woman a while ago and I love her stuff. Not really real time looping but since we're talking cellos..." http://www.renamusic.com/2/home.php Yeah, Rena Jones is wonderful. She's so talented and creative. She played the Y2K4 International Live Looping Festival and she most definitely looped. And has anyone mentioned the two person group, LOOP!STATION http://www.loopthis.com/ They have a wonderful cellist and a vocalist, both of whom loop a lot. They have also played the Y2K Loopfest and I saw them play a stellar show opening up for Thomas Dolby in San Francisco (who was also doing some live looping and a lot of live midi looping) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 05:22:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A75163BE8D; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1F3ALeRoVltyypONbK4KfGfu4I3YsH81K7dLoibrA2M=; b=e8RLXKoIhlCiUdbvcsuZuAYxTSy5NItCC9rSf3ttIKyiwRWSrsZDIYVi2pYdDHEbdP CglS7IhflpNOD/TrY7ke3lPNFn2ZOqw2jBhQLA8P3N83zigu4mbOzd31ehXlD2482/+9 J59aLfdbZe2zSh1MpN5nMY8Y64IeN6D05//HM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pcIFyBemeyPKd+cl7FxtXLfkJZj5DIDdnJRoES19A70onQprsoHdFwIP5uwjMW7GM0 IlirpqrYldeS235PKEPU8wndEYiViqqtk5OToFti/CO3s5sO06rpvw+V/ghZjRQ0UXyP ky5o4FqBApxgeb1bw6WXh8DmHKdu+4v88PVLw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A41B465.904@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:22:26 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: fbc1010 life expectancy - oh mr. per ..? From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <0sB4OB.A.rVF.TgbQKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:22:27 +0000 (UTC) I'll chime in. I've got two. I bought the second one because I wanted a dedicated mobius controller and a dedicated effect controller and because my first one was developing a bad button that finally died. But has recently come back from the grave. Spooky. I've had both for a long, long time. (it was probably dog hair) On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:11 PM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > > > this is mostly for per, but thought others would like to know as well > > i remember you saying a while back your fbc #1 button finally kicked the > bucket- > > my questions- how long did you have it, was it about 5 years of daily usa= ge? > did it go out slowly..... or just suddenly stopped working? > > fro > > ________________________________ > Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that=92s right for you. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 05:24:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AEDA3BE87; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hzxPyi3qdr9he3brstDYqNGA2kU/tdEDLAkjq4E5NmA=; b=tDYow+bUvRphj5oALfFxD5RTKd8TBiTaI+bA4JMJVcy9hqH59Lh9Mqbw7ga98XA2OS eIISbOSa7LBXW+kYVrOOoFB8T9w26nzWaxacOTtyQkynCWard1NKPKHDyGwUTEti79fv TzERnOd/mIH14it92fKbh5JKCagYmnpOK8D/Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dCPybH/wi+4kKOZJM4meLXvKqVox5dLn91gW2EW1Bh4IfGX5V0cOSOKwg52dKwprYL z6+mj46bm676LmrTzhvkCQ+2IWttPv78jvqc+1XkpLbTAqgE5qtw5VfZj8Vj3esYx3Qw 7Z9u0uSrbkkdlwVJpU0UqREjYsG/8OKNev7JY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A41B7C7.2080500@cruzio.com> References: <4A41B7C7.2080500@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:24:30 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: another Cello looper From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Ya, that was me. I've seen Loopstation many times as well. San Francisco must have a thing for cello loopers. Great stuff.... Mark On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > someone wrote (Mark Sottilaro? =A0I couldn't tell from the digest): > > > "I came across this woman a while ago and I love her stuff. =A0Not really > real time looping but since we're talking cellos..." > > http://www.renamusic.com/2/home.php > > > > Yeah, =A0 Rena Jones is wonderful. =A0 She's so talented and creative. > > She played the Y2K4 International Live Looping Festival and she most > definitely looped. > > > And has anyone mentioned =A0the two person group, =A0LOOP!STATION > http://www.loopthis.com/ > > They have a wonderful cellist and a vocalist, both of whom loop a lot. > > They have also played the Y2K Loopfest and I saw them play a stellar show > opening up for Thomas Dolby in San Francisco (who was also doing some liv= e > looping and a lot of live midi looping) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 05:33:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CFFF3BE91; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MZuFAO7QBz0kXYzqnTX+ZitiYRfU+K5Sso/OUs3sQZQ=; b=bESJ93tQlcKf44pO3ZOMR3qj1h0tBSycHpvrtyYnLzDuPL8vWUdbuKYUPfTPaLzHEA 45qmuM0RWXXEym4/Y4Y4OhSLiBP0f82f/MSd0Qpg3wB06d68P0ZCs72OIlq9jBCaf10x wrmB0OGEA5e8UomaYK6TP99j4BeGIjRFd1MqU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=nmM3GA665+y5J3ETd5zNPMUl4lvHMda4unCslcjot9PAmdrK2SL1VXFsdwMB+j1F0i 0KqHET3yqkcOW0xxztI9RpqBrOexit4MHRWXHcCQVP6duOqkGzNyiX3mMrqBsvT3M3sh l0rC03RjjhOXc3Q2vaNcOFhKn96nGzvP3yvA8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:33:44 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: FS: Vox Tonelab SE and Boss FV-1 From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:33:45 +0000 (UTC) I was mentioning my Boss VF-1 today and it occurred to me that it's been mostly unused for the last few years. Sad, but I'm so deep into VSTlandia (wouldn't this be a good place for Per to live? ;) ) that I just don't need it. I was also hanging on to my Vox Tonelab SE too for when I ran out of CPU cycles (I'm mostly using amplitube these days) The truth is with my new box I'm just going to use it even less, or not at all. Boss VF-1 $160 shipped to the continental US Vox Tonelab SE: $260 shipped to the continental US (I have an extra power supply for it too) $400 gets them both! They're a great pair (that's how I used them) Both have been lovingly cared for and have spent their time mostly in my smoke free home studio. Many here can vouch for me. I'm even nice sometimes. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 08:19:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D87AE3BE7C; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:19:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HcSRWKJqHQpzp0Q+5WpgAVcia2MFYkFhfU2So7GqkGE=; b=cq/fKvRKatprk9JlYs6465ti4Iw/AZRsZnsNLXJRdCQnUtsZiGMh5oMHO+Hz2e9KCe QmG31ZmqYFW9oEKYdGKrctS2AjAF40qpT2119o4DiHxS7B01G9QUfimebBeu9UtRDXDx 3upk+Xm2jzknv+oTqskQH6Z1Dok/ed4C/sew8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Pf3LWlT3vnNUEz4diL0ah1yW/lhVPd3MMFBDaZccU1uZdTmVPZVQTX/Fj1uFw3smKF z93bFoQTjLTf1I7HR6r44LI6MajIuWLe5Z6XkvNsl7huWvgxjD5+y0nqyGWB4j/mn4wy ohLa7pA0/fne0IQXfdbX0kiY2gcHYcxc5KuY8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4A41B465.904@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:19:01 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906240119m1d6e2e98rb872c31409c9e4a4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: fbc1010 life expectancy - oh mr. per ..? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:19:01 +0000 (UTC) Every FCB1010 I have owned has lasted for approximately three years of almost daily use. I'm on my third unit now. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:11 AM, FRO DIDDLY wrote: > this is mostly for per, but thought others would like to know as well > > i remember you saying a while back your fbc #1 button finally kicked the > bucket- > > my questions- how long did you have it, was it about 5 years of daily usage? > did it go out slowly..... or just suddenly stopped working? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 09:01:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EF7D3BE75; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:01:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XTAdMlUNKBQXCkuOLi3ygDQ5k4MTpFLDXlIfWRinb6Y=; b=cNymNdYiRyytQMkOt2ouHC3PTbcY3nmiGy1MOwCW1o4Rn9FO4x+GLF2YshCuzaRnfN gcTa/XQBbh3pexKtsxiN0VP4Ygjlsh6BhcHCz1VFTitCvZ1Vpz9baimZNHhn/AVJHPks aJrrMYBW8PcfLmktbNTlgPqqJxfpQ92MenXqI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=EFJdedGcRElOePLSKsLR3PhEMblAYjF3lW2W+RqAQpai6aHFypGlemtEY5hNLXGIH6 1Ex8HZUCyMr7T4jignNioNK2zfZ4GbTFJ/9YPvapYGpMwRyLX/KZRU/s5HeQ8JnQXdVj fKAOoCgsO2rlSMTbkDvky6LGZspZ0UgBttMb0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:01:58 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906240201m55f2379cr57e6f5cab004330c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: In praise of the Crossfade Loop Synth Effect! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:01:58 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Just want to thank Os for pointing out, half a year ago (I've been to busy to launch this until now), that this software plug-in actually can work as a real-time sampler! I had just been using it as a drone delay effect (three parallel delay lines set to different rate/pitch shift values). Together with Live 8, that is capable of picking up a musician's tempo without crashing, I now have the building blocks to build my beloved electronic instrument draft The Steppophonic Looperformer, http://bit.ly/7lP9z The concept is to combine live looping and live sequencing into a system that allows the player to freely improvise also with harmonization. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 10:49:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82FC23BE72; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kfdkZpxcuLDzVfu+2IjM93CbXgQY4vUnU2DcOzCYCGc=; b=OneqZ/WiU/Uzf2UVgtjCd2sDg8xRmVOdSkGk0fOcyCpoIZlc8OHRcLOY1LmavFmbCo I1a8+vXZKgh8fz4XIXZ+1UUSkkZoIL6iFVuGmeArQ0H6pwe7LMwDKzXQyd+7QeqzUl4W Zzu7kEFkKjcxEEfmIuhIYhTuYYUL0Ns/BwuoU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ubT+ELDSyA44TBRm12HaDteYwmhyziGIYgyfkEVfSr/LRTNOr5obxAQOyDnMQiVWpK zco4/c6pYic7hKXggqm/d3aqIw4/ZVAIBB1PWcGPjRFOmvGDHz1WDuyyjyDEBfG5dp7M n+Ua/SVUdHGJlIIdBYVx0AtXpejHeHAY1zTJ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906240201m55f2379cr57e6f5cab004330c@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0906240201m55f2379cr57e6f5cab004330c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:49:05 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ed862a958bf6bae4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: In praise of the Crossfade Loop Synth Effect! From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Hurrah! Someone finally noticed what the plug-in can do :) To be fair, I think Michael Peters beat you to it, since he was using the plug-in as a live sampler at the Antwerp Loopfest. Always happy to hear any suggestions for how I can make it more useful stil= l. cheers, os. 2009/6/24 Per Boysen : > Hi, > > Just want to thank Os for pointing out, half a year ago (I've been to > busy to launch this until now), that this software plug-in actually > can work as a real-time sampler! I had just been using it as a drone > delay effect (three parallel delay lines set to different rate/pitch > shift values). Together with Live 8, that is capable of picking up a > musician's tempo without crashing, I now have the building blocks to > build my beloved electronic instrument draft The Steppophonic > Looperformer, =A0http://bit.ly/7lP9z > > The concept is to combine live looping and live sequencing into a > system that allows the player to freely improvise also with > harmonization. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --=20 os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From mail@sympatico.ca Wed Jun 24 13:12:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 6340 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:12:10 UTC Received: from brodie-engineering.co.uk (hilferty.plus.com [80.229.200.218]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031543BE72; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:11:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([80.122.29.250]) by brodie-engineering.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:41:23 +0000 From: "Bell CA" Subject: Billing Department Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:33:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jun 2009 09:41:24.0031 (UTC) FILETIME=[F00874F0:01C9F4AF] To: undisclosed-recipients:;

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 13:42:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2AE33BE7E; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1245850963; bh=gMntnGoGK6zTp2RfL0nymwX6Mj2C7RFCSBKl9O2kSB0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=u5/r4f6+IhLXurPwoLLvXssOUtfWkjWog38cxrTBnJzR9csr9/MBc5fBTZL3tuJ8PQLOpK3qvEBbsc3iB/vq5rpp8Pes9LMt6ATWF9XFO1pZQXm7szW+LpQH7981TagK2vjgxwXxGctY5lFWid5LOysOd4bxdvEtmviEL3cxtvM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=V59mPrlxnHOI0hOWr3brCzOVNZmUUBKu7jhNCIOzxZwFrzVO60iJluHxsIlZc0H9DkrpvgiJor0NUsEy8st2gANmzKzdzIgSoqdGpXfOSvfrjFi5OY2zRYDpV1Xv6QtUm8EjaEi4KW2220yovvb1JpLrwClcIcYJJt1c+Owjbic=; Message-ID: <608614.17117.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:42:43 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: In praise of the Crossfade Loop Synth Effect! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Yes Michael did a brilliant set with it at the Antwerp festival!=0A=0Awww.m= yspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- Per Boysen schri= eb am Mi, 24.6.2009:=0A=0A> Von: Per Boysen =0A> Betre= ff: In praise of the Crossfade Loop Synth Effect!=0A> An: "Loopers-Delight"= =0A> Datum: Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2009, = 2:01=0A> Hi,=0A> =0A> Just want to thank Os for pointing out, half a year a= go=0A> (I've been to=0A> busy to launch this until now), that this software= plug-in=0A> actually=0A> can work as a real-time sampler! I had just been = using it=0A> as a drone=0A> delay effect (three parallel delay lines set to= different=0A> rate/pitch=0A> shift values). Together with Live 8, that is = capable of=0A> picking up a=0A> musician's tempo without crashing, I now ha= ve the building=0A> blocks to=0A> build my beloved electronic instrument dr= aft The=0A> Steppophonic=0A> Looperformer,=A0 http://bit.ly/7lP9z=0A> =0A> = The concept is to combine live looping and live sequencing=0A> into a=0A> s= ystem that allows the player to freely improvise also=0A> with=0A> harmoniz= ation.=0A> =0A> Greetings from Sweden=0A> =0A> Per Boysen=0A> www.boysen.se= =0A> www.perboysen.com=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 13:49:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F96B3BE7E; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <22BCFFB5-2CDA-4715-A930-34D2FFD70338@guru-records.com> From: Omid Shirazi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: OS 2.0 Electrix Repeater Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:49:52 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Hi Everybody, does anybody have experiences with OS 2.0 Electrix Repeater? Is it recommended (stable, bugs etc.)? Thanx and greetz, Omid audio visual artist mailto: smoking@guru-records.com phone: +49-178-78 52 223 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 16:35:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BBC23BE75; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:35:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "eterogeneo" To: Subject: OT: The Orb's Andy Hughes Died At Age 44 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:35:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_015F_01C9F4FA.863436E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: smtp7.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:35:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_015F_01C9F4FA.863436E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found this sad new on the internet. I have loved the "FFWD" album (1994) where Fripp also play his = soundscapes. Fabio=20 www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ELECTRONIC MUSIC ENGINEER/PRODUCER GENIUS ANDY HUGHES OF THE ORB SADLY PASSES AWAY ON FRIDAY 12TH JUNE 2009 Andy Hughes, electronic music producer/DJ who was born 11th November = 1965=20 and, and who lived and grew up in Harrow, Middlesex, tragically passed=20 away on Friday 12th June 2009 after a short illness.Andy was a genius = who=20 gave so much inspiration and passion to all with his incredible work. He = was loved by many aficionados of the trance/ambient genre, but will be=20 especially remembered for his work with Alex Paterson and The Orb, most=20 notably the album Orblivion and single Toxygene, which reached number 4 = in=20 the UK charts in 1997. Together with his musical partners Alex Patterson = and former members Kris Weston, Simon Phillips and Thomas Fehlmann=20 together with Nick Burton of Westworld fame. Andy created electronic and = ambient/techno/house/dub masterpieces. These took him across the globe=20 where he played to masses of fans in countries including the USA, Japan=20 and Canada as well as a sell out concert at the Royal Albert Hall in = 1998. ------=_NextPart_000_015F_01C9F4FA.863436E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I found this sad = new on the=20 internet.

I have loved the "FFWD" = album=20 (1994) where Fripp also play his soundscapes.

Fabio
www.eterogeneo.com
www.myspace.com/eterogeneo=

ELECTRONIC=20 MUSIC ENGINEER/PRODUCER GENIUS
ANDY HUGHES OF THE ORB SADLY PASSES = AWAY ON=20 FRIDAY 12TH JUNE 2009

Andy Hughes, electronic music producer/DJ = who was=20 born 11th November 1965
and, and who lived and grew up in Harrow, = Middlesex,=20 tragically passed
away on Friday 12th June 2009 after a short = illness.Andy=20 was a genius who
gave so much inspiration and passion to all with = his=20 incredible work. He
was loved by many aficionados of the = trance/ambient=20 genre, but will be
especially remembered for his work with Alex = Paterson and=20 The Orb, most
notably the album Orblivion and single Toxygene, which = reached=20 number 4 in
the UK charts in 1997. Together with his musical = partners Alex=20 Patterson
and former members Kris Weston, Simon Phillips and Thomas = Fehlmann=20
together with Nick Burton of Westworld fame. Andy created electronic = and=20
ambient/techno/house/dub masterpieces. These took him across the = globe=20
where he played to masses of fans in countries including the USA, = Japan=20
and Canada as well as a sell out concert at the Royal Albert Hall in = 1998.
------=_NextPart_000_015F_01C9F4FA.863436E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 17:08:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41C0A3BE7E; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 496 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:08:40 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jPJ3+y22vkaewD9O4H1Z6D+ZOD1kkZcCQA9suVaGuTc=; b=O3Ma6P7RFUcs94NsnawTgoflopFyWJKNAxwDsEvlZnWAAjxU49a5lHXGz6AXoIbTMq 1saAJYdt+fuuEHjNvoaG/XLNUXObqDxKLS9MwaVt619occrAYaYUp72I4r1n+VzbYZ4Q 7bzo4hZMOfcfihNhGBxtcdJYN9+xfkgXbrIsM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VDHFYbgrFnqOoWxlDOJc3EzWa7i4ac+I6c+El3WTklskRJMyzeKYNtbbjqNh9OBWsa 0bRt3V7d4SekmAr3JjCuH4/2iNeRX+ogY/oUtsZCucY2kArJEej+RXI1AENZIF+I7x4p 2XSxp6aWkJ1MCZqmtAOzdcS9gRz6X3hCS3dck= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:00:23 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e0ad10797bb2c6e0 Message-ID: <37f071c00906241000w787f7f6co194bfd492131c9a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: New videos online From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Somewhat off topic as there is not much practical looping in these at all, but I've just put up three short edits from my forthcoming DVD. Since this list is as much a creative inspiration to me as it is a place to discuss looping, I figured I'd share it with you all (since my looping is not really nearly as interesting imo) http://vimeo.com/user877640/videos (the three newest files) Hope you enjoy them Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 17:35:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C5D43BE78; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:35:23 UTC X-Originating-IP: [67.180.253.245] X-Originating-Email: [tygerman_gb@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Ty Gott" To: Subject: New to the Group Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:30:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01C9F4B6.C711AF60" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acn08XMta98lGyG+T92/bapNd6Ao1g== Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jun 2009 17:30:22.0108 (UTC) FILETIME=[73A245C0:01C9F4F1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:35:23 +0000 (UTC) ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C9F4B6.C711AF60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings from Emeryville California. I'm a long time looper, just getting started on the mailing list. I've been looping for a long time but have recently decided to make it the focus of my performances. Too much trouble with band members. The boxes always show up for rehearsal sober. I've been using a boomerang for many years and have just added an Echoplex. I'm a guitar synth player and use a GR-1,GR-33,VG-8 and a VG-99. I'm looking to collect hints on the Echoplex so far mine or its foot controller seem flaky but I'm loving all the features. Also checking to see what I might have missed mixing, routing and switching. I have learned a few tricks over the years to share in return. I've got a bunch of music and videos posted on the net: www.soundclick.com/TygermanGrooveBand http://www.youtube.com/user/Tygermangb www.mySpace.com/TygermanGrooveband Cheers, -Ty ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C9F4B6.C711AF60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Greetings from Emeryville = California.

I’m a long time looper, just getting started = on the mailing list. I’ve been looping for a long time but have recently = decided to make it the focus of my performances. Too much trouble with band = members. The boxes always show up for rehearsal sober. I’ve been using a = boomerang for many years and have just added an Echoplex. I’m a guitar synth = player and use a GR-1,GR-33,VG-8 and a VG-99.

I’m looking to collect hints on the Echoplex = so far mine or its foot controller seem flaky but I’m loving all the = features. Also checking to see what I might have missed mixing, routing and switching. = I have learned a few tricks over the years to share in return.

I’ve got a bunch of music and videos posted = on the net:

www.soundclick.com/= TygermanGrooveBand

http://www.youtube.com/us= er/Tygermangb

www.mySpace.com/Tygerm= anGrooveband

Cheers,

-Ty

------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C9F4B6.C711AF60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 17:57:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 505A03BE78; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:57:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 351 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:57:32 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/ID+yaIK2JdxttsEgCeRsqYoleu/UDF+N9NhW9z8S4Y=; b=mCzktxHOY2RTXcRW01iCPuo6KhS2pCQm2Xz9FbQqFwK5JoGSZLFSfGdUPu7cGBmtsf kmp6lDTqfdJGfm29ozIup2bcqc/y8Q+DUFZaf4Ba1YFVqm5KTyNLkMlQHiGP+/t/61jP f8SnHK7XnR5gMgtz3P0Qrkn4X7Ekm0qtBl9Ss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=VS+lUEnElZKk3anTF1uNzAC9n6K8qHv1T2A0C3a6OOtnSBgpyr/75EJGM3Nm0UlBGq YQb7M9yNt5EcNV9SXSR2fgwQcNUE1jK2avpbRrC88q1FM695dzVMi0Bpujp/gg6P83Z6 dIopqqQiS5AFHpgo1F7VacgiLMXJTMTvf7Anw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <22BCFFB5-2CDA-4715-A930-34D2FFD70338@guru-records.com> References: <22BCFFB5-2CDA-4715-A930-34D2FFD70338@guru-records.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:51:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OS 2.0 Electrix Repeater From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db6196712fd6046d1bc25c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:57:33 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db6196712fd6046d1bc25c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit seems pretty stable to me (although i havn't tested it to destruction, as it were) and most of the bugs seem to have been fixed well worth the upgrade, imo as the extra features are terrific and no more "bumps" at the loop boundary. rec straight into overdub is worth it on it's own download from me here, if you havnt got it already... http://www.box.net/shared/m00og7fn8c password = repeater cheers sim On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Omid Shirazi wrote: > Hi Everybody, > > does anybody have experiences with OS 2.0 Electrix Repeater? > Is it recommended (stable, bugs etc.)? > > Thanx and greetz, > Omid > > audio visual artist > mailto: smoking@guru-records.com > phone: +49-178-78 52 223 > > --0016e6db6196712fd6046d1bc25c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable seems pretty stable to me (although i havn't tested it to destruction, = as it were) and most of the bugs seem to have been fixed

well worth = the upgrade, imo as the extra features are terrific and no more "bumps= " at the loop boundary. rec straight into overdub is worth it on it= 9;s own

download from me here, if you havnt got it already...

http://www.box.net/shared/m00og7fn8c=

password =3D repeater

cheers

sim

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Omid Shirazi <smoking@guru-records.com> wrote:
Hi Everybody,

does anybody have experiences with OS 2.0 Electrix Repeater?
Is it recommended (stable, bugs etc.)?

Thanx and greetz,
Omid

audio visual artist
mailto: smoki= ng@guru-records.com
phone: +49-178-78 52 223

--0016e6db6196712fd6046d1bc25c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 18:45:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6A383BE80; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=w2HQfsM9WE3SvsdVNQQ79Wam4AC1NfvYUgkEOBAeENQ=; b=xnc9bWMW5gVeSly/TKBrVuIB1UpT0I23WJAu4F9oxyQvPCX183FXplnsPTwvjAPX7w fM9ktN7IzO5c61O7MxU71fxmgTt+6H2NWabofV4J8P1ALRh/nqWb2v88uxmIGl02KGYl s7MNukYEhE3qs58fHgJaIvzSmkklL9DyADYbc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Zu2jAQgdj9wKww1tfhwYeG2g5u4n+cz0pMliOY8CYg/ikHW47ns4NrihZdgE5at0cp TwFJl3uSype1aYjtEJz48UzATJS6UrIIKdhipgCsRIc8NxmSM3awG6+iidEpnTmxrIIp srNqSMbnER489LMZqiXYCgs/LBb7lRkKR/lAA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:45:22 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906241145p49a2621dpffbacadff7b38549@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OS 2.0 Electrix Repeater From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:45:23 +0000 (UTC) > Is it recommended (stable, bugs etc.)? For me, this was the greatest thing to happen with the Repeater, for the following reason: Back before the Repeater was launched, I had been in contact with their project mgr., he told me about their feature set, and I told him about possible improvements. Back then, they couldn't be integrated into the first release, but he promised them for "the next major release". Several years later...and really every single feature I had wished for did get implemented! Individual transport control for the tracks, direct rec-to-overdub, to name just a few. As others here, I did not really test it to be waterproof, but I think it's safe to say that it makes sense for everyone who owns one to do the upgrade. Best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 20:14:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A685F3BE7F; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6Gh8I6HvJid6QCZe+ssQfq6JHuv4Ae2oxMKG/fF/fRA=; b=toPtFVDRxQGmjZ0WdXAzu17s1p5BHjqGpsd9eddDfNaKM7COBNLmJtIOu7nVCTQLd1 CMrrFaQ3TX8TxReuerxaZlWxKnxki+OjP/tWzqHrJ0zWmfq5/FaHVP4ifIijB2hNXx/7 ubAJ4L18vI33g4XbDQgZ35Qt43FRJNZJK4CiU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=L38PitzZCuQJcabrifapBs4pSUDziMa8deLv6u95EG9zkGAp6q6KxY6j9DetdeY0nb TiP0F3goidqTYieKOPP3UIKTjFzI/sYabBmYSm/xmnhWfKPULttHhTssDcqP/KcD0FHN s1RU9/SBH+qffTO56Gmpk7X5/reZyXHaH08BE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <608614.17117.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <608614.17117.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:14:11 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: In praise of the Crossfade Loop Synth Effect! From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Must check this one out later! Looks good Per. One suggestion... I think from a marketing standpoint it would read better as "Step-o-phonic Loop-phormer." ;) Mark On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:42 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > > Yes Michael did a brilliant set with it at the Antwerp festival! > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- Per Boysen schrieb am Mi, 24.6.2009: > >> Von: Per Boysen >> Betreff: In praise of the Crossfade Loop Synth Effect! >> An: "Loopers-Delight" >> Datum: Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2009, 2:01 >> Hi, >> >> Just want to thank Os for pointing out, half a year ago >> (I've been to >> busy to launch this until now), that this software plug-in >> actually >> can work as a real-time sampler! I had just been using it >> as a drone >> delay effect (three parallel delay lines set to different >> rate/pitch >> shift values). Together with Live 8, that is capable of >> picking up a >> musician's tempo without crashing, I now have the building >> blocks to >> build my beloved electronic instrument draft The >> Steppophonic >> Looperformer,=A0 http://bit.ly/7lP9z >> >> The concept is to combine live looping and live sequencing >> into a >> system that allows the player to freely improvise also >> with >> harmonization. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 20:16:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACBF03BE78; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 330 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:16:11 UTC X-Sasl-enc: ZEkJQ7xy3i/ufzRdfpjsy5rvAKUpkYloR9a+/PFT9Wq9 1245874240 Message-ID: <4A42883F.5030603@pobox.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:10:39 -0700 From: Bob Campbell Reply-To: rcampbell@pobox.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: RIP AAK References: <4A3E8D87.5050204@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4A3E8D87.5050204@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:16:11 +0000 (UTC) as usual, check eMusic many recordings there, much more reasonably priced. (25 cents each on my plan) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 20:44:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75DCB3BE7F; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wgp6SGIfh3SbcGHNI4VP7VSUDpkvvFP8XVcSht24LF0=; b=N2qvRszRNyYLobl5epCMGPilXsM3P90qjC6DEwVrafMAA3a546LmNcu55QpPu7x9m6 8VSEYRg+qGxuJodA6iUOPpZ9UrLSUIq246nXlw8aJlEIhiZdcFmDTBWDPNwhkZziDBuB z9asy9Gx9gWhdUOusQwMQ8JPIvDhKqvYTrLco= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qs5IGMfeQSaNyD09cGdZqj4qEg7gAZ6WMD8Vo8Pm6RQkXu4ZOyCmR+YaalLXBSyxx9 ELVWNTHJyhJs/8V8ngyqJ0S3iBZZcMzkLW23FIYkOS6u+J1/GtRawaIuVaZz+V804G1y kZcJfI+NVk7H52lVR6fqJ+t3OQnF7b+2Emau0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <783917.80618.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <783917.80618.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:44:58 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to go all Software with guitar multieffector and looper From: Mark Sottilaro To: "L.Angulo" , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e640d3d237d1e5046d1e2ed8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:44:59 +0000 (UTC) --0016e640d3d237d1e5046d1e2ed8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Luis, I've gotten a few requests for this from group members so it seems on topic so I'm going to post it to the list. Feel free to ask about any clarifications. Here's a slight edit form one I sent out his morning. I originally started off with a JamMan, and later progressed to a Repeater and later for a short time a Looperlative. 4 years ago I purchased a Toshiba Satellite laptop. The toshiba was a dual core (first gen) running at 2 gighz with 2 gig of ram and I can still do a lot with it. Luckily it had a compatible Firewire chipset, as there are issues if you're going firewire and I was (coming from the mac world where they adopted firewire really early) If you're not going firewire then the choice is less of an issue I think. I did because I was already using a MOTU 828 with my Mac G5 and I heard that it is better for audio performance. I know a lot of people seem to do fine with USB2. However if I were doing this all over, I might look more seriously at getting a Mac laptop. I find them a lot less finicky than Windows machines, but there are some software packages that have not been ported to the Mac. Mobius has though. The MOTU 828 gets me a buffer of 192 samples which is pretty unnoticeable to me. I think I get a round trip latency of less than 12ms. My mind had no issues compensating for it, it's like playing on stage with your guitar amps about 10 feet behind you. Some VST effects introduce latency into your system because they need a bit more time, but these (Like PSP's Vintage Warmer) are easily avoided or just used in mastering/mixdown when real time isn't an issue. Amplitube is made for real time performance so it is not an issue at all, though it is fairly heavy. Recently I looked at that Toshiba laptop and laughed at it. It's been more or less a desktop machine even though it was purchased with the intent of live performance. I think other than some time taking out out on the local light rail system when I had a 45 min commute and I could fool around with it to and from work, it left my studio about 2 times. So, when my POS general use laptop died (I keep the toshiba off the internet to avoid issues) I figured it was time to upgrade and I decided to stop lying to myself about performing live. I like jamming with other musicians but frankly even with an ultra small easy to transport system I just didn't care to perform live. I'd rather just go over someone's home or invite someone over for an afternoon jam. So anyway, I recently purchased a Dell XPS 420 desktop. It's pretty quiet, and not I seem to have plenty of headroom in the cpu and ram department. I had to be more careful with the laptop, but don't get me wrong, I could get a lot of stuff running, but when I started using Amplitube for guitar sounds I could tax the processor to the point of popping and clicks if I had another CPU intensive plug in like Omnisphere running. I bet with a new laptop that wouldn't be as much of an issue. (the toshiba's about 4 years old I think) I almost just started using my old G5 dual Quad Core machine. Frankly it's just as powerful as the new Dell but there were a few drum instruments I use a lot that aren't ported for the Mac. Jamstix and mDrummer. Really most of the good stuff does end up on the Mac. There are just a few quirkier oddball things that are Windows only. When my friend Kane comes over I'll often set the G5 up so that he can loop via Augustus loop that's synced via midi. The Dell came with Vista 64 and it's been trying. My IK Multimedia stealthpedal (to control Amplitube better) doesn't yet have 64 bit drivers. Vista REALLY wants you to be careful and basically constantly bugs you about everything. The good news is you can basically get in and disable all of that. If you do go with a Vista based system I can help you avoid some of the pitfalls. Now that all the quirks have been worked out, it has been smooth sailing and the machine is pretty great. I run my guitar into the MOTU 828 as well as a DSI Mopho, Roland SonicCell and a few other hardware bits. The guitar tracks get effected by some flavor of Amplitube. I think it's the best amp modeler out there, but if you're going that direction try all the demos. Other good ones I've found are Overloud's TH-1 and Flying Haggis. (I think Flying Haggis is PC only) All of this is hosted by Live 8. I like it because it's really made with live performance in mind and even though I don't leave my studio, I do all my stuff improvised in real time. I tried a bunch of other hosts to see if I liked one more, but nothing seems to work as well or have as intuitive an interface than Live. I use MOTU's Digital Performer for the Mac, but if I was going Mac from point A, I'd probably go Logic. I know Per likes Bidule, but although flexible it seemed like a lot of work to get started, but it does have a useful modular style. Other tracks get VSTi synths. There's a wealth of amazing stuff out there now. I love NI's KORE 2 (synths and effects processor) and Zebra 2, Omnisphere, Alchemy, Korg's Legacy Collection, Helix... there are a lot of great instruments, again most with demos. It's really subjective so you're just going to have to explore. For effects I like the Audiodamage stuff, Uhbik, Camel Audio stuff, NI's Reaktor (also great for synths) Again, it's a big world and you'll have to dig to find what you like best. The only thing I currently want to add to my system is a second monitor. I'm going to go with a touchscreen as a lot of the software has cool xy "pads" built in and I think there's potential for a lot of fun there. I almost went with a HP Touchsmart computer and if I were starting from nothing at this point and preforming I probably would get this computer. The stock ones are a little wimpy, but you can order direct from HP and build quite a screamer. Bigger than a laptop (the size of an iMac) but when you put that bad boy up in your rig and people watch you touching it the girls will be throwing their panties at you in no time. The only reason I didn't go that route was money was a little tight and I could get more power for my money with a traditional machine and I already had a good 22" monitor. Mark On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:52 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > > Hi Mark, > Ive been wanting to do this as well use SW fx form my guitar and loop it > all with mobius but ive never done it cause it looks a bit > complicated,people use bidule,mainstage etc.ive never tried more than a > single software on my PC or mac so i dont know how it compares to using > hardware but the one thing i do not want is latency or constant crashes in > using such configuration,i wont be so picky about the sound as long as is as > good as lets say a hardware amp simulator like the vox tonelab or Boss GT. > so would you be so kind to explain me in detail how you do this? > I am actually going to then save this email of yours and start trying it > out,i am sick of carrying stuff around! > thanx man > Luis > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- Mark Sottilaro schrieb am Di, 23.6.2009: > > > Von: Mark Sottilaro > > Betreff: FS: Vox Tonelab SE and Boss FV-1 > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Datum: Dienstag, 23. Juni 2009, 22:33 > > I was mentioning my Boss VF-1 today > > and it occurred to me that it's > > been mostly unused for the last few years. Sad, but > > I'm so deep into > > VSTlandia (wouldn't this be a good place for Per to live? > > ;) ) that I > > just don't need it. I was also hanging on to my Vox Tonelab > > SE too for > > when I ran out of CPU cycles (I'm mostly using amplitube > > these days) > > The truth is with my new box I'm just going to use it even > > less, or > > not at all. > > > > Boss VF-1 $160 shipped to the continental US > > > > Vox Tonelab SE: $260 shipped to the continental US (I have > > an extra > > power supply for it too) > > > > $400 gets them both! They're a great pair (that's how > > I used them) > > > > Both have been lovingly cared for and have spent their time > > mostly in > > my smoke free home studio. Many here can vouch for > > me. I'm even nice > > sometimes. > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > --0016e640d3d237d1e5046d1e2ed8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Luis, I've gotten a few requests for this from group members so it = seems on topic so I'm going to post it to the list.=A0 Feel free to ask= about any clarifications. Here's a slight edit form one I sent out his= morning.

I originally started off with a JamMan, and later progressed to a
Re= peater and later for a short time a Looperlative.=A0 4 years ago
I purch= ased a Toshiba Satellite laptop.

The toshiba was a dual core (first gen) running at 2 gighz with 2 gig
of ram and I can still do a lot with it. =A0Luckily it had a compatible
Firewire chipset, as there are issues if you're going firewire and I was (coming from the mac world where they adopted firewire really
early)

If you're not going firewire then the choice is less of an issue I
think. =A0I did because I was already using a MOTU 828 with my Mac G5
and I heard that it is better for audio performance. =A0I know a lot of
people seem to do fine with USB2. =A0However if I were doing this all
over, I might look more seriously at getting a Mac laptop. =A0I find
them a lot less finicky than Windows machines, but there are some
software packages that have not been ported to the Mac. =A0Mobius has
though.

The MOTU 828 gets me a buffer of 192 samples which is pretty=
unnoticeable to me. I think I get a round trip latency of less than12ms.=A0 My mind had no issues compensating for it, it's like playing<= br> on stage with your guitar amps about 10 feet behind you.

Some VST ef= fects introduce latency into your system because they
need a bit more ti= me, but these (Like PSP's Vintage Warmer) are
easily avoided or just= used in mastering/mixdown when real time
isn't an issue.=A0 Amplitube is made for real time performance so itis not an issue at all, though it is fairly heavy.

Recently I looked at that Toshiba laptop and laughed at it. =A0It's bee= n
more or less a desktop machine even though it was purchased with the
intent of live performance. =A0I think other than some time taking out
out on the local light rail system when I had a 45 min commute and I
could fool around with it to and from work, it left my studio about 2
times.

So, when my POS general use laptop died (I keep the toshiba off the
internet to avoid issues) I figured it was time to upgrade and I
decided to stop lying to myself about performing live. =A0I like jamming with other musicians but frankly even with an ultra small easy to
transport system I just didn't care to perform live.=A0 I'd rather = just
go over someone's home or invite someone over for an afternoon =
jam.

So anyway, I recently purchased a Dell XPS 420 desktop. =A0It's pretty<= br> quiet, and not I seem to have plenty of headroom in the cpu and ram
department. =A0I had to be more careful with the laptop, but don't get<= br> me wrong, I could get a lot of stuff running, but when I started using
Amplitube for guitar sounds I could tax the processor to the point of
popping and clicks if I had another CPU intensive plug in like
Omnisphere running. =A0I bet with a new laptop that wouldn't be as much=
of an issue. (the toshiba's about 4 years old I think)

I almost just started using my old G5 dual Quad Core machine. =A0Frankly it's just as powerful as the new Dell but there were a few drum
instruments I use a lot that aren't ported for the Mac. =A0Jamstix and<= br> mDrummer. =A0Really most of the good stuff does end up on the Mac.
There are just a few quirkier oddball things that are Windows only.

= When my friend Kane comes over I'll often set the G5 up so that he
= can loop via Augustus loop that's synced via midi.

The Dell came with Vista 64 and it's been trying. =A0My IK Multimedia stealthpedal (to control Amplitube better) doesn't yet have 64 bit
drivers. =A0Vista REALLY wants you to be careful and basically
constantly bugs you about everything. =A0The good news is you can
basically get in and disable all of that. =A0If you do go with a Vista
based system I can help you avoid some of the pitfalls. =A0Now that all
the quirks have been worked out, it has been smooth sailing and the
machine is pretty great. I run my guitar into the MOTU 828 as well as
a DSI Mopho, Roland SonicCell and a few other hardware bits. =A0The
guitar tracks get effected by some flavor of Amplitube. =A0I think it's=
the best amp modeler out there, but if you're going that direction try<= br> all the demos. Other good ones I've found are Overloud's TH-1 and Flying Haggis. (I think Flying Haggis is PC only) =A0All of this is
hosted by Live 8. =A0I like it because it's really made with live
performance in mind and even though I don't leave my studio, I do all my stuff improvised in real time. I tried a bunch of other hosts to
see if I liked one more, but nothing seems to work as well or have as
intuitive an interface than Live. =A0I use MOTU's Digital Performer for=
the Mac, but if I was going Mac from point A, I'd probably go Logic. I know Per likes Bidule, but although flexible it seemed like a lot of
work to get started, but it does have a useful modular style.

Other tracks get VSTi synths. =A0There's a wealth of amazing stuff out<= br> there now. =A0I love NI's KORE 2 (synths and effects processor) and
Zebra 2, Omnisphere, Alchemy, Korg's Legacy Collection, Helix... there<= br> are a lot of great instruments, again most with demos. It's really
subjective so you're just going to have to explore.

For effects I like the Audiodamage stuff, Uhbik, Camel Audio stuff,
NI's Reaktor (also great for synths) =A0Again, it's a big world and=
you'll have to dig to find what you like best.

The only thing I currently want to add to my system is a second
monitor. =A0I'm going to go with a touchscreen as a lot of the software=
has cool xy "pads" built in and I think there's potential for= a lot of
fun there. =A0I almost went with a HP Touchsmart computer and if I were
starting from nothing at this point and preforming I probably would
get this computer. =A0The stock ones are a little wimpy, but you can
order direct from HP and build quite a screamer. =A0Bigger than a laptop (the size of an iMac) but when you put that bad boy up in your rig and
people watch you touching it the girls will be throwing their panties
at you in no time. The only reason I didn't go that route was money
was a little tight and I could get more power for my money with a
traditional machine and I already had a good 22" monitor.

Mark<= br>
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:52 AM, L.Angulo= <labaloops@yah= oo.com> wrote:

Hi Mark,
Ive been wanting to do this as well use SW fx form my guitar and loop it al= l with mobius but ive never done it cause it looks a bit complicated,people= use bidule,mainstage etc.ive never tried more than a single software on my= PC or mac so i dont know how it compares to using hardware but the one thi= ng i do not want is latency or constant crashes in using such configuration= ,i wont be so picky about the sound as long as is as good as lets say a har= dware amp simulator like the vox tonelab or Boss GT.
=A0so would you be so kind to explain me in detail how you do this?
I am actually going to then save this email of yours and start trying it ou= t,i am sick of carrying stuff around!
thanx man
Luis

www.mysp= ace.com/luisangulocom

--- Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossi= ng@gmail.com> schrieb am Di, 23.6.2009:

> Von: Mark Sottilaro <zero= crossing@gmail.com>
> Betreff: FS: Vox Tonelab SE and Boss FV-1
> An: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com
> Datum: Dienstag, 23. Juni 2009, 22:33
> I was mentioning my Boss VF-1 today
> and it occurred to me that it's
> been mostly unused for the last few years.=A0 Sad, but
> I'm so deep into
> VSTlandia (wouldn't this be a good place for Per to live?
> ;) ) that I
> just don't need it. I was also hanging on to my Vox Tonelab
> SE too for
> when I ran out of CPU cycles (I'm mostly using amplitube
> these days)
> The truth is with my new box I'm just going to use it even
> less, or
> not at all.
>
> Boss VF-1 $160 shipped to the continental US
>
> Vox Tonelab SE: $260 shipped to the continental US (I have
> an extra
> power supply for it too)
>
> $400 gets them both!=A0 They're a great pair (that's how
> I used them)
>
> Both have been lovingly cared for and have spent their time
> mostly in
> my smoke free home studio.=A0 Many here can vouch for
> me.=A0 I'm even nice
> sometimes.
>
> Mark
>
>

--0016e640d3d237d1e5046d1e2ed8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 21:25:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C5903BE7F; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qnyYWMrjM2RVzreUv5N9cC8Tx9m2hTk2R2AnMKj2aPQ=; b=GZXuplh7T2pFKLGONPHsU6vSZYSXEpVoic2zb9ycqul7WzkTyGch1L1bMXKG3Iy595 0JLIve9NHsB7CuSlJIBxgfNC65553yeDO68Q7mqqwziamip8C1V86XE3JZ23gp+/1l/c ZXOOP3ougNdzOHXC6lxzrDgjEBJfianPj7z74= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NP/4G59rSxlrEtagSgE7x0JPaOoMhz/Dln3eID/eTH4XQxSkcCFrn8XD349OZcIlSm jkkwJkqec8VrWMgHajeDp1eeGS3iCepHZvU3EIgrqycNpvb6BRRbzZDl2pPyC8O3G/Jl eBwpobTBrjcYWIvRArGS1C/Om9F9L3hykMOOs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <608614.17117.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:25:48 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906241425t5002c578i79b213a7bf645916@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: In praise of the Crossfade Loop Synth Effect! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001e680f156841c688046d1ec02e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:25:49 +0000 (UTC) --001e680f156841c688046d1ec02e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you for the note, Mark. But there's no marketing ambition on this project; in fact it is just me mocking up a new "instrument" - like checking out a new guitar tuning sort of. The point is the functionality and I got it working like the description today. Great fun! You need to know your sequencer patterns in order to achieve specific harmonization by choosing which note, from your simultaneous melody playing, to sample into the X-fade Loop Synth Effect. I found a good routing today and now I'm about to delete the first Live 8 Looper routing because it wasn't optimal. Next stage after that will be to set up two more Ableton Looper plug-ins and make dummy MIDI clips with slow pitch falls and rises to slowly tune up the three loopers into chord triads (THX jingle style). I played quite a lot today with the Ableton Looper and it sounded good at 128 samples buffer with no audio artifacts. A fun thing in using Live as the looping host app is to slap lots of alternative dynamics over the loop outputs. Like for example an auto pan used as a tremolo followed by a triplet bouncing filter delay. That trick sounds better in Logic but maybe it will work ok in Live if using the OhmBoys delay (because it has already built-in filter resonance sweeps on the wet delay path). That's a really neat trick to get hihat-functionality sounds out of live loops. Like on the first sax loop in this piece: http://www.perboysen.com/audio/BJWM2009_looping_medley.mp3 Per On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Must check this one out later! Looks good Per. > > One suggestion... I think from a marketing standpoint it would read > better as "Step-o-phonic Loop-phormer." ;) > > Mark > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:42 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > > > > Yes Michael did a brilliant set with it at the Antwerp festival! > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > --- Per Boysen schrieb am Mi, 24.6.2009: > > > >> Von: Per Boysen > >> Betreff: In praise of the Crossfade Loop Synth Effect! > >> An: "Loopers-Delight" > >> Datum: Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2009, 2:01 > >> Hi, > >> > >> Just want to thank Os for pointing out, half a year ago > >> (I've been to > >> busy to launch this until now), that this software plug-in > >> actually > >> can work as a real-time sampler! I had just been using it > >> as a drone > >> delay effect (three parallel delay lines set to different > >> rate/pitch > >> shift values). Together with Live 8, that is capable of > >> picking up a > >> musician's tempo without crashing, I now have the building > >> blocks to > >> build my beloved electronic instrument draft The > >> Steppophonic > >> Looperformer, http://bit.ly/7lP9z > >> > >> The concept is to combine live looping and live sequencing > >> into a > >> system that allows the player to freely improvise also > >> with > >> harmonization. > >> > >> Greetings from Sweden > >> > >> Per Boysen > >> www.boysen.se > >> www.perboysen.com > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --001e680f156841c688046d1ec02e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you for the note, Mark. But there's no marketing ambition on this= project; in fact it is just me mocking up a new "instrument" - l= ike checking out a new guitar tuning sort of. The point is the functionalit= y and I got it working like the description today. Great fun! You need to k= now your sequencer patterns in order to achieve specific harmonization by c= hoosing which note, from your simultaneous melody playing, to sample into t= he X-fade Loop Synth Effect.=C2=A0

I found a good routing today and now I'm=C2=A0about=C2= =A0to=C2=A0delete=C2=A0the=C2=A0first=C2=A0Live=C2=A08=C2=A0Looper=C2=A0rou= ting=C2=A0because=C2=A0it=C2=A0wasn't=C2=A0optimal.=C2=A0Next=C2=A0stag= e=C2=A0after=C2=A0that=C2=A0will=C2=A0be=C2=A0to=C2=A0set=C2=A0up=C2=A0two= =C2=A0more=C2=A0Ableton=C2=A0Looper=C2=A0plug-ins and make dummy MIDI clips= with slow pitch falls and rises to slowly tune up the three loopers into c= hord triads (THX jingle style). I played quite a lot today with the Ableton= Looper and it sounded good at 128 samples buffer with no audio artifacts. = A fun thing in using Live as the looping host app is to slap lots of altern= ative dynamics over the loop outputs. Like for example an auto pan used as = a tremolo followed by a triplet bouncing filter delay. That trick sounds be= tter in Logic but maybe it will work ok in Live if using the OhmBoys delay = (because it has already built-in filter resonance sweeps on the wet delay p= ath). That's a really neat trick to get hihat-functionality sounds out = of live loops. Like on the first sax loop in this piece:=C2=A0

http://www.perboysen.com/audio/= BJWM2009_looping_medley.mp3

Per

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Mark S= ottilaro <ze= rocrossing@gmail.com> wrote:
Must check this one out later! =C2=A0Looks good Per.

One suggestion... I think from a marketing standpoint it would read
better as "Step-o-phonic Loop-phormer." =C2=A0;)

Mark

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:42 AM, L.Angulo<labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Yes Michael did a brilliant set with it at the Antwerp festival!
>
> www= .myspace.com/luisangulocom
>
>
> --- Per Boysen <perboysen@gm= ail.com> schrieb am Mi, 24.6.2009:
>
>> Von: Per Boysen <perboys= en@gmail.com>
>> Betreff: In praise of the Crossfade Loop Synth Effect!
>> An: "Loopers-Delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Datum: Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2009, 2:01
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just want to thank Os for pointing out, half a year ago
>> (I've been to
>> busy to launch this until now), that this software plug-in
>> actually
>> can work as a real-time sampler! I had just been using it
>> as a drone
>> delay effect (three parallel delay lines set to different
>> rate/pitch
>> shift values). Together with Live 8, that is capable of
>> picking up a
>> musician's tempo without crashing, I now have the building
>> blocks to
>> build my beloved electronic instrument draft The
>> Steppophonic
>> Looperformer,=C2=A0 http://bit.ly/7lP9z
>>
>> The concept is to combine live looping and live sequencing
>> into a
>> system that allows the player to freely improvise also
>> with
>> harmonization.
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboys= en.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

--001e680f156841c688046d1ec02e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Jun 24 21:42:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0C383BE7F; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Omid Shirazi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--862897287 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: OS 2.0 Electrix Repeater Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:42:38 +0200 References: <22BCFFB5-2CDA-4715-A930-34D2FFD70338@guru-records.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:42:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--862897287 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you very much. I will check it out and report about that:) cheers, Omid audio visual artist mailto: smoking@guru-records.com phone: +49-178-78 52 223 Am 24.06.2009 um 19:51 schrieb Simeon Harris: > seems pretty stable to me (although i havn't tested it to > destruction, as it were) and most of the bugs seem to have been fixed > > well worth the upgrade, imo as the extra features are terrific and > no more "bumps" at the loop boundary. rec straight into overdub is > worth it on it's own > > download from me here, if you havnt got it already... > > http://www.box.net/shared/m00og7fn8c > > password = repeater > > cheers > > sim > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Omid Shirazi > wrote: > Hi Everybody, > > does anybody have experiences with OS 2.0 Electrix Repeater? > Is it recommended (stable, bugs etc.)? > > Thanx and greetz, > Omid > > audio visual artist > mailto: smoking@guru-records.com > phone: +49-178-78 52 223 > > --Apple-Mail-2--862897287 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you very much.
I will = check it out and report about = that:)

cheers,
Omid

audio visual artist
mailto: smoking@guru-records.com
phone: +49-178-78 52 223

Am = 24.06.2009 um 19:51 schrieb Simeon Harris:

seems = pretty stable to me (although i havn't tested it to destruction, as it = were) and most of the bugs seem to have been fixed

well worth the = upgrade, imo as the extra features are terrific and no more "bumps" at = the loop boundary. rec straight into overdub is worth it on it's own
=
download from me here, if you havnt got it already...

http://www.box.net/shared/m0= 0og7fn8c

password =3D = repeater

cheers

sim

On = Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Omid Shirazi <smoking@guru-records.com><= /span> wrote:
Hi Everybody,

does anybody have experiences with OS 2.0 = Electrix Repeater?
Is it recommended (stable, bugs etc.)?

= Thanx and greetz,
Omid

audio visual artist
mailto: smoking@guru-records.com
phone: +49-178-78 52 = 223

=

= --Apple-Mail-2--862897287-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 25 00:37:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A57A3BE73; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fB7j2psrNa+jVQVMU6T5byMdsgbnYIKLjrT4vj7Dung=; b=pV1iW7EQBS++Zwmfe3HZY3lKiCqXhi7mJlSEoadJwEkuIyT+EbA6SN6bWyMueQlCoM Y665nwdVmSknwr/5Z5U9wh6dzOdL97vRpzt2A3SCr41BZvROHSa226kxTkh4ZrsE/IRn Wg3w6YdFKylOZta9n2L9HEhBjZQtqiRr/Cd6I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KwtwTbkfpRl6uG4jvApd+BWxa8zijJMqABdwjGmkR7d4EK3IjNhblyDp2+ikLSB6cn OIJIElPvXeDoj6DWqx5PDJ+U/TlmX2ljhM/HseXiGBoMXnUuy5z3qrIivBkXAa+1fsIw Jx0U4m/nF6+azZauNn2swpb8HDosZtLdGjZD8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906241425t5002c578i79b213a7bf645916@mail.gmail.com> References: <608614.17117.qm@web24303.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0906241425t5002c578i79b213a7bf645916@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:37:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: In praise of the Crossfade Loop Synth Effect! From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6407ed01f9c50046d216dc0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:37:19 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6407ed01f9c50046d216dc0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Thank you for the note, Mark. But there's no marketing ambition on this > project Sorry Per, that was just my attempt at humor. You see, in America we like everything better if it is in the thing-o-matic format. Er, at least we did in the 50s. --0016e6407ed01f9c50046d216dc0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for the note, Mark. But there's no marketing ambition on this= project

Sorry Per, that was just my attempt at humor.= =A0 You see, in America we like everything better if it is in the thing-o-m= atic format.=A0 Er, at least we did in the 50s.=A0

--0016e6407ed01f9c50046d216dc0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 25 01:04:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC0C03BE7F; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:04:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: New to the Group Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:03:58 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:04:02 +0000 (UTC) The EDP footcontroller EFC-7 has buttond that wear out with regularity. Ty, Those little red plastic switches have the advantage of being silent=20 but seem to lack something in the durability dept. I've bough a whole bag of them from MOSER ELECTRONICS and replace them=20= periodically whenever they start to get hinky. It's a very easy repair even if your soldering skills are minimal. If your EPP works fine from the front panel buttons when the footswitch=20= is unplugged it's pretty fair to say that a switch has gone south in=20 the controller. Most often it is the Record or the Overdub switch - those get used mont=20= often. And there is something about how some folks seem to naturally stomp=20 down a little harder on the second press of the Record button when they=20= are closing a loop to define it's basic length. You should find lots of resources on the LD website for the EDP. Although it's an open forum for all hardware and software looper users,=20= it was created initially by the guys who are responsible for the=20 existence of the EDP (Kim Flint and Matthias Grob). Best regards, tEd =AE KiLLiAn Creativity represents a miraculous coming together of the uninhibited=20 energy of the child with its apparent opposite and enemy, the sense of=20= order imposed on the disciplined adult intelligence. =96 Norman = Podhoretz http://www.myspace.com/tedkillian http://www.reverbnation.com/tedkillian http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD007.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://guitarplayer.com/article/y2k6-international-live/Jun-07/27768 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes On Jun 24, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Ty Gott wrote: > I=92m looking to collect hints on the Echoplex so far mine or its foot=20= > controller seem flaky but I=92m loving all the features. Also checking=20= > to see what I might have missed mixing, routing and switching. I have=20= > learned a few tricks over the years to share in return.= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 25 01:04:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77B753BE84; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:04:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 480 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:04:11 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=72JsAthbMQ6KDwBR7CbZcmPikpAt3AwgYoOGVy3R9Zs=; b=vXWhRmeupzahvYI3aUgYdBjpktxPTuQUOvXtXsF93RpVd98b7vVwTxcB596pery9DZ /xgFdh4DR3nCDjcKqBBkX/0DCSuGSbUqnvRPNWtbQJnkjts4iewhGKcAqrCve6IDcq/V gOW+KhVrr3fEjF11DUbadTtgao44ie62gWwog= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; 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To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1964012868-1245896377=:22954" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:26:17 +0000 (UTC) --0-1964012868-1245896377=:22954 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I know some people have mentioned the foot-switches on the DL4 are problematic; I've never had any issues with mine but I'm more inclined to use my unit on a table so I can manipulate everything while playing. The dials are obviously great for hands but the foot-switches are hard on my fingers & thumb. So, this is probably a stupid question but is it possible to replace the foot-switches with some kind of toggle switches and still have all the foot-switch functionality? ted harms. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog __________________________________________________________________ Connect with friends from any web browser - no download required. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA at http://ca.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php --0-1964012868-1245896377=:22954 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

I know some people have mentioned the foot-switches on the DL4 are problematic; I've never had any issues with mine but I'm more inclined to use my unit on a table so I can manipulate everything while playing.

The dials are obviously great for hands but the foot-switches are hard on my fingers & thumb.

So, this is probably a stupid question but is it possible to replace the foot-switches with some kind of toggle switches and still have all the foot-switch functionality?

ted harms.
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--_----------=_1245941680484141767-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 25 15:02:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 241C03BE77; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:02:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aqGCeLjo9lcOOoIveosQh0ijRb3HQMoM1piyAx3Xh+I=; b=Ck8XL/DwrCa0gUSdJd1jyv/HBI7jke6h0V+ghE1Qdy8HA4cnzYyyI/erKYY++AYXpw iCyHbkmWhVJC2KroxR6Y/99JrOmCD/mA528ucvEdZyfvPEQmLh+KpLYada5J8tFHhEZw UrMmjziXihMv0Voy8ru07RpAqhuvaJ57kPoAw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QjJ182kaWRO/F8f2sKychphCaw0U9211KZOQK2CCidMN6pHG+PNNNRgUyC0xDN47QZ Gv+997ll/Cp7YVidMSpgWMXZyC2qO2cr3+qUCF3k+/ApxvMMTElsJuw1HjVDHnjm851/ KcRf9qdOeI3iY28w11lksA62FNd37s6rtuB8E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A432B44.2030701@tiscali.co.uk> References: <783917.80618.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A432B44.2030701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:02:35 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to go all Software with guitar multieffector and looper From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:02:36 +0000 (UTC) It's more laziness on my account. Live is like a fully formed machine that you can make settings in, but it's fairly static. Bidule is like a box of legos that's nothing until you start putting blocks together. It's a totally modular environment. More flexible, I'm sure but Live appealed to my "here's a paradigm you already know" mind. For me, I don't really want anything all that crazy. I haven't found a thing that I want that Live doesn't have built in and easily accessed. Also, one of my first "ideas" was to stick with my G5/Digital Performer set up and only use the XP laptop as a hardware looper synced to it. Live was the only host that seemed to chase MIDI sync well. Bidule was one I tried and I can't remember why but it wasn't happening. I went though a lot of hosts. Live was a clear winner. It was only later that I started to realize how silly it was to split things up between two machines and I stopped having the two synced to each other pretty quickly. By that time I'd already invested in Live with money and time, so there you are. I did reevaluate it recently to see if I was using the right tool for my needs and from what I could find it is. Mark On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:46 AM, andy butler wrote: > Mark Sottilaro wrote: > >> I know Per likes Bidule, but although flexible it seemed like a lot of >> work to get started, > > Would that be because it doesn't have a mixer "hard-wired" into it? > > Isn't that compensated by the complete lack of routing mysteries? > > just askin', > I'd be interested to know. > > andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 25 15:28:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 959A93BE7C; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=V+EdrPzdREdO5RsM9YTdzf+rhRjcR7ImRo4KZQKkC/M=; b=av28WxPHQw3/r5U9X11xrCyjHWgtLf3UDWPzX1mKTPtlK8IWITBKIYyOYYrjdfsDDF tAKvaZThn9RroS9DkmjsFArl20rFukJ7hxfYYmn8VW3i43GM99PPfDwa8MYvG5QOPazo 9HJvihtF1M3JuiU9Ri3+NNX9U+39KnM8Vc4tQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tm4+PupnjuSohzY0G/LBCOo4wPGiY02C3EkmLU+V4NkdFi1dUhKDCSo96weBLUGUag WVNNIvoNZ6YjMRnfcPP9Ix4X7o3vJCs88FxA2B5O4wZ0aLQMTYKv7ahRykOeOrxNi+zu oPU5ki1ydlsqW6nt4FK0jLGRWOHLzF1ZGNrgI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <783917.80618.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A432B44.2030701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:28:34 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906250828m4303a8d1r4342e1ec01376261@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: How to go all Software with guitar multieffector and looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:28:35 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> >>> I know Per likes Bidule, but although flexible it seemed like a lot of >>> work to get started, Short note: In Live I like the option of setting up MIDI loops (MIDI clips) and the option to use Clip Envelopes for long and slow automized changing of a parameter value. For example you may want the span of a band pass filter to slowly move just a little up and down the frequencies while audio passes through the filter. Just one clip (MIDI or Audio Clip) in Live can hold a huge number of such "musical slides", of just about any length. So within this single clip you may have a dozen "parameter value loops" spinning at different lengths at the same time. That's awesome! But sadly I found that not all parameters in plug-ins, even Ableton's own plug-ins, show up with all their parameters within Live's routing system. And for the second, I don't like the sound of Live. So this leads to Bidule where you can achieve that moving band pass example by cabling a synced LFO to affect two parameters (and set an appropriate scaling). In Bidule every parameter does show up for routing, given the plug-in developer implements them to be declared to the host. So in my perspective Bidule is simpler. Stuff you don't need at the moment you won't have to stare at. And the power under the hood is not crippled, so you don't have to fear the day you want to do something that turn out not being supported. But then I happen to like the Mainstage sound fidelity so much that I always try to use that host even before I turn to Bidule, knowing that anything you may build in Bidule can always be opened in another host as a Bidule plug-int, if first saved as a Group from within Bidule. Per From unideai@dawson.nswebhost.com Thu Jun 25 18:14:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from dawson.nswebhost.com (dawson.nswebhost.com [65.254.40.34]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20DD3BE71 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unideai by dawson.nswebhost.com with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MJtSY-0006bP-P4 for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:14:06 -0500 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cancellazione X-PHP-Script: unidea.es/es_es/cancellazione/index.php for 38.108.180.163 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Message-Id: Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:14:06 -0500 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dawson.nswebhost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32500 32501] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dawson.nswebhost.com Ti confermo che la cancellazione alla newsletter è stata effettuata From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 25 23:22:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6AB63BE7E; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:22:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090625192242.2054553l9s73cc0s@www.wightman.ca> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:22:42 -0400 From: phaslem@wightman.ca To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: How to go all Software with guitar multieffector and looper References: <783917.80618.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A432B44.2030701@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) X-Originating-IP: 216.16.232.115 X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; FunWebProducts; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; InfoPath.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:22:43 +0000 (UTC) that is really interesting because my experience was exactly the =20 opposite! I tried live and it seemed sort awkward and complicated but =20 in Bidule all I had to do was place an effect. drag a couple of lines =20 to it, drag a few more to mobius, drag a line from the midi device to =20 mobius and I had a fully functional effect system and a looper. Of =20 course it is infinitly modular and you can do some crazy stuff with =20 it.... but mostly I keep it pretty simple. Paul Haslem Ontario, Canada www.dulcify.ca Quoting Mark Sottilaro : > It's more laziness on my account. Live is like a fully formed machine > that you can make settings in, but it's fairly static. Bidule is like > a box of legos that's nothing until you start putting blocks together. > It's a totally modular environment. More flexible, I'm sure but Live > appealed to my "here's a paradigm you already know" mind. For me, I > don't really want anything all that crazy. I haven't found a thing > that I want that Live doesn't have built in and easily accessed. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Jun 25 23:40:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 837A73BE80; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:40:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kEvffStdMtIt300UjeV4IAHrpYiUZfXpXXxAd9cUslg=; b=JW+6XjYuF6vcI3AW4ERAbQ4Eyy2fFCqP1teRYtCkAoiSwh3O4AuZYHoO77s7gDwccV WUjj4OOOrrkh1oxgMrhqHoXigjSGvMO8UsZT4iSivq2h4eA1MtJaszEBz8li1xfdaqbZ eefx8JWSykt28D55EGKY1aM5GHzmuSIm7guRw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RjdVCMnuyScoUtvu7OSFZuVb6rpfv6MdBLC3P1Q77caks7nzoGuZeMSg+j0kqCt1TD JeoouJkLK5uNJjPGvGv/bWtXeRTe7EcPbkii9zySy0JWf08AHMZ4wLVCqxowCT6sLJWu biC3HVORTXtmnJCN/IDcTHLQTqgtaiwNXtM0c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906250828m4303a8d1r4342e1ec01376261@mail.gmail.com> References: <783917.80618.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A432B44.2030701@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0906250828m4303a8d1r4342e1ec01376261@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:40:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to go all Software with guitar multieffector and looper From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:40:06 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >>> Mark Sottilaro wrote: >>> >>>> I know Per likes Bidule, but although flexible it seemed like a lot of >>>> work to get started, > > Short note: > In Live I like the option of setting up MIDI loops (MIDI clips) and > the option to use Clip Envelopes for long and slow automized changing > of a parameter value. For example you may want the span of a band pass > filter to slowly move just a little up and down the frequencies while > audio passes through the filter. Just one clip (MIDI or Audio Clip) in > Live can hold a huge number of such "musical slides", of just about > any length. So within this single clip you may have a dozen "parameter > value loops" spinning at different lengths at the same time. That's > awesome! It sure is awesome, I use that all the damn time. If only they'd like me run midi clips in the send channels... > But sadly I found that not all parameters in plug-ins, even > Ableton's own plug-ins, show up with all their parameters within > Live's routing system. Have you moved to Live 8? There's a new work around where all parameters are available but you have to set up which ones you want to use. Quite handy actually. > And for the second, I don't like the sound of > Live. I don't even know what you mean by this. Are you claiming that a VST in Bidule sounds different than one in Live? I've tried a bunch of different DAWs and one thing I never noticed was a difference in sound, though I imagine if you're using Live's warp engine that'll degrade those bits. > So this leads to Bidule where you can achieve that moving band > pass example by cabling a synced LFO to affect two parameters (and set > an appropriate scaling). In Bidule every parameter does show up for > routing, given the plug-in developer implements them to be declared to > the host. Ya, check out 8 for that work-a-round. Very useful and you only have to deal with the parameters you're using so it eliminates a lot of clutter. > So in my perspective Bidule is simpler. Stuff you don't need at the > moment you won't have to stare at. And the power under the hood is not > crippled, so you don't have to fear the day you want to do something > that turn out not being supported. It's simpler in the sense that all the "guts" aren't laid out for you at any moment. It's less simple when you want to do something basic and you have to start pulling up the guts and mucking about. I remember I had to do a crazy little configuration to get Mobius to receive host sync where in Live I drag it into a track and if my preset is set to Host Bar it just works with no fuss. I'm sure once you're familiar with it it's easy as pie, but few would deny that the Bidule learning curve is higher than Live's. > > But then I happen to like the Mainstage sound fidelity so much that I > always try to use that host even before I turn to Bidule, knowing that > anything you may build in Bidule can always be opened in another host > as a Bidule plug-int, if first saved as a Group from within Bidule. Well that is the good part eh? Need Bidule's functionality? Run it as a plug-in. I just never found the need for it's functionality. You're setup and music tends to be a lot more experimental than my own though. I'd like to hear examples of the exact same set up (source material, vst) rendered out as audio that sound different from different hosts. I've just never noticed it at all. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 26 00:37:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 287D53BE81; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:37:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=z0/SoZltCHOTb7kpLB6Atu0fKUwJYy1R3nTt9WCm7nk=; b=w8HO+d1EuRMO7DjJ112usoPZhQieBm2FJXZpsVWApWAxshkC7bWDZQdUT4QxIi9aHd /z3mWjujnLJroBP5VERg/8mmIeMMf2rZQbVtnZfd/jAKLkkzKjpDdWr8tV7nh+U5Hire P4WIJMW9K6xMveRa0AI/iPr9dmhgjFtyVmFhQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FVGE/ydBqzpGVC1DVs0zhurUEmNyvl0/HlwgiFhAFRLvq1jEDPpllu2cyVuaAINxQi COcTxnKsCae8skwToJSUz1EquNcEJdRg51Eqrj+0tH4yeDKLhQBhN0bvHgqj2xCTjA8D VQeStx0aBOwU6KmD00G63tdedRYPLcPN4iBx4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <783917.80618.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A432B44.2030701@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0906250828m4303a8d1r4342e1ec01376261@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:37:52 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906251737h3c679f2foee3be2ecd4904daf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: How to go all Software with guitar multieffector and looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5hULzD.A.KjF.ihBRKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:37:55 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Mark Sottilaro wro= te: > I'd like to hear examples of the exact same set up (source > material, vst) rendered out as audio that sound different from > different hosts. =C2=A0I've just never noticed it at all. Mark, I wasn't talking about A/B testing playback of the same sound file in different applications. I was talking about setting up typical effect processing routings that to some part include the host application's build-in plug-ins. Both Live (8.0.4 is my version) and Mainstage/Logic has several built-in audio effect plug-ins and I just happen to like the sound of on a lot better then the sound of the other. It's a matter of taste ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 26 00:43:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D71D33BE7C; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=B7/fIRe4erUJsZOtc1Jz/l0ZebHAQjw6DNzwSMXUgJI=; b=cZvQp5TTBAtugM4/M5tM66eUV7+KtMYqZlrqF3Ue6L2sgrbeHD5s7P7ShlXa4hdm8w L6PJ/xuSqKGr/UObVRraYyUZpy+NjQCIL525Rb7JrdC/Che7TeTMblPGpq1UDTlZ6Ov+ ZDv1FkyFBycKEvkzMc941AE9N/iDYNIt5MmWI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hNYB80Fuq4E3Y+6u+P2fDlLBZ7cMWk7SoKEQW+ElQAf06I8LSNH6IzGSCryVVN/qt3 164Wq8GxdextyzbPqN1+yRG7+/l0QjMkhA74dsqORZAaNq3hiy4o9kGLOHHc52UmHiD6 rlAcZChuDdwUo1y9Dx7GIiPJnOruAQo12YPRw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906251737h3c679f2foee3be2ecd4904daf@mail.gmail.com> References: <783917.80618.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A432B44.2030701@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0906250828m4303a8d1r4342e1ec01376261@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0906251737h3c679f2foee3be2ecd4904daf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:43:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How to go all Software with guitar multieffector and looper From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Oh, I see. Yes, I agree to that. I rarely use any of Live's effects except for the new Looper from time to time. Lack luster. Though, thinking about it, the new Vocoder seemed good to me as well, though nothing comes close to Eiosis's ELS Vocoder. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Mark Sottilaro w= rote: >> I'd like to hear examples of the exact same set up (source >> material, vst) rendered out as audio that sound different from >> different hosts. =A0I've just never noticed it at all. > > Mark, > > I wasn't talking about A/B testing playback of the same sound file in > different applications. I was talking about setting up typical effect > processing routings that to some part include the host application's > build-in plug-ins. Both Live (8.0.4 is my version) and Mainstage/Logic > has several built-in audio effect plug-ins and I just happen to like > the sound of on a lot better then the sound of the other. It's a > matter of taste =A0;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 26 01:41:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E9A43BE78; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:41:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3610 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:41:17 UTC Message-id: <4A44191D.6010301@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:41:01 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-G36b.A.gfB.9cCRKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:41:17 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on the Ricochet Gathering. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk 4 of 4 from "La Gomera" on the Ricochet Dream label. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#jun Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 26 06:48:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F6FE3BE7E; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:MIME-Version:content-class:From:Subject:Date:Importance:X-Priority:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=itpwpoZ7qLoO0VQijuCABoDZlGa2UYHT3iPMTMBeclE1Y3oqQnUC/MFehYckOz8zdXT+kaJyLSsmmSKFiwfXSZ9ko3AoosYEhUFnjYcmUeILL/2f8KPYVijG/NdT7/q8znUuUYpaw0THWP2S587daTMNixgW3JuZxPxIgW/8HhI= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: zKU2mgEVM1lLXd0.LJdabI2NeUSjRjySIroTMEDi1s5JsmvltAb5o5hY6ps1mQQe6k8P.SOAq6.xqgGbyUklTnLR7_aYEcJffvpT0DrSOlu1Xmw46Wsr9V_JkNc5olfDjxgzqrwWgjCtYye5OmudJxwuzZo9IIKRcLy07quEObETKaz.gQFZcFOMxm1LcwGs_kLj3f74dICYq7QYNtuxf_j_r7mYVBD_HXQepY2.zWN4jxisRObKolSnOOxR3KGOAwilk6LdWGWJIknNIMPHfHJs6SW9Ml1.V_g6MXcuby_cD3FS4PQ8X8eYsfEGhwLAx1lk8Y9C_VAF X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 content-class: From: Ricky Graham Subject: RE: How to go all Software with guitar multieffector and looper Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:47:48 +0100 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: <20090626064810.3862B3BE73@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:48:10 +0000 (UTC) I think lack lustre is a bit much. If you take the time to tweak Ableton's = effects, they can be really nice. Especially the reverbs. But yeah, a matte= r of taste either way.=20 Ricky This message was sent from a PDA. Not an iPhone. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sottilaro Sent: 26 June 2009 01:43 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: How to go all Software with guitar multieffector and looper Oh, I see. Yes, I agree to that. I rarely use any of Live's effects except for the new Looper from time to time. Lack luster. Though, thinking about it, the new Vocoder seemed good to me as well, though nothing comes close to Eiosis's ELS Vocoder. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Mark Sottilaro w= rote: >> I'd like to hear examples of the exact same set up (source >> material, vst) rendered out as audio that sound different from >> different hosts. =A0I've just never noticed it at all. > > Mark, > > I wasn't talking about A/B testing playback of the same sound file in > different applications. I was talking about setting up typical effect > processing routings that to some part include the host application's > build-in plug-ins. Both Live (8.0.4 is my version) and Mainstage/Logic > has several built-in audio effect plug-ins and I just happen to like > the sound of on a lot better then the sound of the other. It's a > matter of taste =A0;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 26 09:24:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C89E93BE7E; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:24:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=v6Q+j2/9xV8xH/KgK281vsiTk8uBqEo9sSN5j6amTgg=; b=HtlaFLm59Mk3UWfAozjc4Mi3ckUn9AOOi4swfC3mUybdUztVIT1/zvpbOQnffIYnop xUoggWzi9PpNk3uvTKst/eZ0UKo1kd0cQg58bSxf28pXzoYTN0qGSdtBSCgPSOCQqVcn bep+DboqPWPgBPlMSQqeq8OGXTCyBcESMMkro= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GFaP08ZhbVKs5ZzUKw+FvG7eKyIu+IrUOM9WhsMsh0mLEo9NVQiITCVeukC7JXGFoA AntQRBeHLvhSaEkuUOaT22IRj/6nLILZaGQzaw6KiOj7upwIojsUIE+WutTMG96xs5cU vJRuAtom7h6fZn0Eg9Yunych3NI8FfIh7HvPs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090626064810.3862B3BE73@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090626064810.3862B3BE73@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:24:32 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906260224l9f83ca2p762ab6c18f7dd7e4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: How to go all Software with guitar multieffector and looper From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:24:32 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Ricky Graham wrote: > If you take the time to tweak Ableton's effects, they can be really nice. Especially the reverbs. Yes, I especially like the Live reverb for "freeze" settings. It's cool to set up clip envelopes that now and then send out just a short chunk of signal to such a big reverb. I try to set such loops to odd lengths, like 23 bars, so it won't repeat close to whatever musical arrangement you play. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 26 10:32:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A295E3BE81; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:32:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Cc: "Matthias Ebbinghaus" , "Thomas Frank" Subject: Livelooping In Rome - Behind The Scenes Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:31:56 +0200 Message-ID: <004301c9f649$559bd010$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acn2SVRvmlNelv1+ReiEUAz56ngybg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:32:01 +0000 (UTC) I've made a little 24 minute video documentary about the Rome Livelooping weekend - no concert footage, that is still being worked on by Xavier, only "behind the scenes" stuff, you know, musicians being silly or eating pizza. I hope you get an idea how much fun we had. Enjoy! http://www.vimeo.com/5324385 -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 26 13:39:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FADC3BE80; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lN91s+UxBi/kkn3/2PxOWG4IAojh5BQhbYQxr5oc4zI=; b=f9whf/Q+oIlV9w8X49i4IPRgPwjhGUbW3n8J/rQ6bmrnSTx628/6U0hmLNxEnTkP3z 3ezEI7aB04ZBN4Qd/6kZKUpw3eTHmqvDK/xHBgdj90I2cphnLpy3BEV7AwajExJZ8Qav 2qgD2fnu75ThfXRFhOBfqYzo3h6j0LJ+RXwXw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=wXLu8YOQviuBI41DZD5TDcnz0+z7HDddWOguz9JX7I5GY0K+X14KNh0k9bMFP5v5DJ 7vZFOy3UuJvaciHA/RF0opuK7EBKzeMIR49KysEcI+CGye64lWnmH/pZuCvZUH9WhgWb aK0cItmlkTbI2kkA1jVkveJM9o+F3w5aArd3g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <004301c9f649$559bd010$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <004301c9f649$559bd010$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:39:12 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Livelooping In Rome - Behind The Scenes From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502d30c383328046d4077e3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:39:14 +0000 (UTC) --00504502d30c383328046d4077e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit looks like you all had a great time, michael! On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > I've made a little 24 minute video documentary about the Rome Livelooping > weekend - no concert footage, that is still being worked on by Xavier, only > "behind the scenes" stuff, you know, musicians being silly or eating pizza. > I hope you get an idea how much fun we had. Enjoy! > http://www.vimeo.com/5324385 > > -Michael > > --00504502d30c383328046d4077e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable looks like you all had a great time, michael!

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Michael Peters <= ;mp@mpeters.de> wrote:
I've made a little 24 minute video documentary about the Rome Liveloopi= ng
weekend - no concert footage, that is still being worked on by Xavier, only=
"behind the scenes" stuff, you know, musicians being silly or eat= ing pizza.
I hope you get an idea how much fun we had. Enjoy!
http://www.vimeo= .com/5324385

-Michael

--00504502d30c383328046d4077e3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 26 14:24:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FA053BE82; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:24:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246026296; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=aIrakiGsqwedBvmJ/+RAgYj56J4=; b=Su9kqtRR7kOMWokhCSVXw4uS5+sAEeFj3y5uBjgGhGibiDoVgBh6ssmu1rAH7Asu 1GaBEBJBuh96nXyz51m73TOthlt63x9dmBvEZ/dTv2vL8+HV1VLSWhs5I5Epl01W; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=KtkOG-jFEnvtZlmoUg8A:9 a=akd0vsMeVN3ZZfftd_YerFRdijsA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000b01c9f669$e035a1e0$d5852245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: Ustream show vid Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:24:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <36bVvD.A.9XH.4oNRKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:24:57 +0000 (UTC) I have posted this video of my Ustream show last Saturday. This is a low quality screen capture from Ninjam tv. They had carried the show and when I screwed up and didn't record it myself I obtained this. http://www.vimeo.com/5308400 Best, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 26 14:35:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3305E3BE81; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sDAJavbjjlvCitRtx2EZzAYi5103a1ho4t1+stlOTTk=; b=Y0FHVMPi2qHvngfGr8wiCmZ++3EKMI5U5vTqxhIsUuOXHD3cKmu9kAw9gE38Edpkmq M35p56rThQkwU5CM4CiawVO9+NLjfLLGbkZ3S5FpsgiCak27OLp6xir1OKX1i56e4MQQ fFlOKl2k2jgWlix03baUPlOS+U6D3/EnQUbj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ZN45/fePjwj+zKJhwrzewj97UGtUCqPRCPXwhWtaB3oPXlQ++EKSP3a6v7ULBc8b07 DtsMTB1gmkXhyCgOQbie/52kWLX+DlMVcLXzSrjfHb27FMcI1rTXJrLOH9XEo3WPBaNs vTUWBlVgM4k50Jdz3aIyFqMHp3i9iCW3VnT5I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:35:19 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906260735u41f77882wde0b2847e51ccedc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [Gig Info]: The MoinSound Studio Sessions this Saturday June 27th, 1600 UTC From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:35:21 +0000 (UTC) It's once again time for my bi-weekly series of internet-video-streamed virtual performances as part of "The MoinSound Studio Sessions". URL: http://justin.tv/moinlabs Date/Time: Saturday June 27th 2009, 1600 UTC (for time zone conversion, see http://tinyurl.com/nkvjds) Tune in for the latest in avantgarde madness, brought to your computer screen live via the internet. No registration necessary! Looking forward to see you there! Rainer --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://www.twitter.com/moinlabs http://justin.tv/moinlabs http://vimeo.com/moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 26 18:46:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97F393BE77; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:46:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <26CA550870C94149B0C9C1F04DCC6036@pcfabio> From: "eterogeneo" To: , Subject: Impossible Music review Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:46:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_04AC_01C9F69F.34898330" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: smtp7.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:46:44 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_04AC_01C9F69F.34898330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 I want to point out this nice review I've found by accident about last = Michael Peters production "Impossibile Music" http://www.neural.it/sound/2009/06/michael_peters_impossible_music.phtml Congratulations ! 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Hi,

I want to point out = this nice=20 review I've found by accident about last Michael Peters production = "Impossibile=20 Music"

http://www.neural.it/sound/2009/06/michael_peters_impossible_mus= ic.phtml

Congratulations = !

Fabio
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------=_NextPart_000_04AC_01C9F69F.34898330-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 26 20:29:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C1B53BE81; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:29:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Orange Years Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:29:27 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c9f69c$cdbbfc70$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acn2kuU9WRUKpIhdT5K8u40DB7RdMQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.196; VDF: 7.1.4.140) Resent-Message-ID: <1bQDIC.A.7pH.r-SRKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:29:31 +0000 (UTC) congrats to Andreas Willers whose "Orange Years" album has been reviewed today in the Tageszeitung, Germany's most important independent left daily newspaper. Are there soundclips somewhere Andreas? it sounds as if this album contains solo livelooping jazz guitar music. If this is somewhat similar to what you played in Berlin last year, I gotta have it. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 26 21:32:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B0573BE80; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:32:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2N/qolJ4RyGXu1WapQmhddP+bsml+8REqKUtItmnjk4=; b=u9NCkrma8efHFdcvNSrEy+dW5UKNgdl7nXta4lFhiS8hLGh7+vcw3tU62YlUtaLJ1Y WzpaA0uTbHTH7VE7o81iESWBDmgbowqUUR1BgYZnQg4DxIsVxyx71dMOkEgx6yU9gNv+ nCfkvAm+NUyRSEUaxyfCHJENJEENKAus7F/Sk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SbD994wiuFVeWaHRsCioFHYIKwyDPYUufExGTmQ8Z79/k3e6fFTeL3YUwZC96A9l0G DdQQw4PWJxEVteKTmfE6cPNO9JJ0ddXPgphDHEnI1/S5DUUiPheD+iyoEB3d5LPTbrYC NnwsMH+ml5gU7mp6OIv1nbnwxq8TKlLqnPvus= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <26CA550870C94149B0C9C1F04DCC6036@pcfabio> References: <26CA550870C94149B0C9C1F04DCC6036@pcfabio> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:32:00 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Impossible Music review From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:32:02 +0000 (UTC) ... pianist? favorable review anyway. congratulations michael ! 2009/6/26, eterogeneo : > Hi, > I want to point out this nice review I've found by accident about last > Michael Peters production "Impossibile Music" > http://www.neural.it/sound/2009/06/michael_peters_impossible_music.phtml > Congratulations ! > > Fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > www.myspace.com/eterogeneo > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 26 21:49:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA87A3BE82; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Hp1TRiNe49p7mxSvUD88tWepbaXsFu8YVcUfCvYwg6Q=; b=vJK+C6BbENcOQmQfe8DD8IV0b5VCr9z0oUqRpd1Ngdde0kBu85CaCmxMww6xLHpoeY XdEyKRA6hej+IQDHuZqSkv85Yzxm8NQm403I/7/djnjIiJqw6agZvh6OoYYQF/RykNPo SXkpMP7Lo4E1iLUZHS85wmFrQTICcMvu1JdNU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ozQ2r42FMe3QuSOrLYqHJIqXBZ8BLgcyKPj1DUkNXJPty/kxpcrEgjUH16jjMvO2bW UFEVMPjG6XEZRHsXUpmN21qLvSjEOSVc90nFnjMRnOxCeeJMFb5LeSLy2BDzUojmhYlJ Z6UYvNTvAZuK6PwGn1zgYPep3tbFm1y2Ywu0I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <26CA550870C94149B0C9C1F04DCC6036@pcfabio> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:49:11 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906261449o725d6286g9e0cf966439f4e61@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Impossible Music review From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2ZnS1.A.o1C.XJURKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:49:11 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > ... pianist? favorable review anyway. It's experimental, playing the piano on a guitar ;-) Congratulations to Michael!! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Jun 26 22:01:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71D203BE82; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NkmEKxRPBNfplqWNFsOhwIDi73HJxSVuYx4uXKaqqMs=; b=Jha2P44hhmVdaOK6X+23JVFdz4OBWa5KorYYPOxmn8PSmwCv59StbJj8hw90VHEkCe AxJVO7LDQcnjpywMGsptWQNAnBhgxgfPhvyPcimIf5+H6t+TlvV6aCFc4I+7mmP1MDpT eZdlUSOwRzgn51EsHiMhJvncbRdJocwD/W/PA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SIb/MDemynJKRC77vP9EpUgEIL4YNTlnkHigp7kwV8eSjgDGZGxsnnYu2V+D6SqvBR SA7tslLywCSJ8l5G5EILTxzOoQN8TEuKXWek0gqDd9QXFRsZbYf0pI1acarNHeiOLiMF Mz0AkGyrDoWACQn2NIW5DP16GsjD+5V9G2K6I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906261449o725d6286g9e0cf966439f4e61@mail.gmail.com> References: <26CA550870C94149B0C9C1F04DCC6036@pcfabio> <66f9cc1e0906261449o725d6286g9e0cf966439f4e61@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:01:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Impossible Music review From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:01:08 +0000 (UTC) yes!, congrats to michael. very underrated music creator! typing credits "Michael Peters: programming and realtime parameter manipulation.-Matthias Ebbinghaus: live mix and controllers, editing. -Walter Br=FChn: final mix" 2009/6/26, Per Boysen : > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Raul Bonell wrot= e: >> ... pianist? favorable review anyway. > > It's experimental, playing the piano on a guitar ;-) > Congratulations to Michael!! > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From hkblog.nbvwe3dpm4wtenrxga2dqmzsgy-looparc=loopersdelight.com@returns.bulk.yahoo.com Sat Jun 27 07:29:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 341 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:29:21 UTC Received: from n3.bullet.hki.yahoo.com (n3.bullet.hki.yahoo.com [202.43.221.28]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 041083BE71 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:29:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [202.43.221.25] by n3.bullet.hki.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2009 07:23:26 -0000 Received: from [124.108.94.149] by t2.bullet.hki.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2009 07:23:26 -0000 Date: 27 Jun 2009 15:23:26 +0800 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by w9.blog.hk2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2009 07:23:26 -0000 From: =?UTF-8?B?bmFuY3k3MA==?= To: looparc@loopersdelight.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: hkblog-invite X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: hkblog-267048326 X-Originating-IP: [218.169.112.15] Subject: =?UTF-8?B?bmFuY3k3MOi3n+S9oOWIhuS6q+iHquW3sSBCbG9n?= Message-Id: <20090627072921.041083BE71@arsenic.violacea.com>

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 27 10:11:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 024703BE7E; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246097460; bh=L2PXD35dTL0vG1sxDCL+WNp8a87HT5dWh+9swV1l5tA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ezSkHpmA76OBq7q7RZ6gcoEzrWqWfQ4To/3P8tkzIs3SrFLpA4hTwatTjV4UbaMTXdahgOI3dzSrMirJcTqGO4Er53xeGukYKtLVdrwBvpy+6UrUGZxSoNoh+lvkCoKU+TNp+tXHoHzZiEyrtxmUeG0n9yq+0mjd7MtAQ+jz7gg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=maW83Mqny+DvQBQDxKD9wKeJ+kbpQ6zk6Tf7OVVSOhUtLde84yY7pyw2zqsKi23Zev7F2iDEVHm7Y2Ij1LCRCgAjZH4/644uLTt44SmTu9MTVP98nLZSONm2XiArca2tuUfc9R3LG9BsOjkstapOOlocPwjqhaFIB5ToY/30BGI=; Message-ID: <616911.23025.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:11:00 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: Impossible Music review To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Cheers Michael impossible music is great i didnt know you were such an amaz= ing pianist!=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- eterogeneo schrieb am Fr, 26.6.2009:=0A=0A> Von: eterogeneo =0A> Betreff: Impossible Music review=0A> An: mp@michaelpeters= .de, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Freitag, 26. 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--001636c5c2f1916254046d571ad6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Jun 27 16:49:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C3153BE79; Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [68.36.132.156] Reply-To: From: "Andrew Koenig" To: Subject: Is there a way to back up a single RC-50 patch? Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:49:49 -0400 Message-ID: <004501c9f747$49e4f450$ddaedcf0$@org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acn3R0gUGLrO3aohQZyKSJN4A85mKQ== Content-Language: en-us x-cr-hashedpuzzle: BSIo B2Zr B902 CKUA C7Ik DESb D58m Eetf EsgR Fe4n Fuq5 GaWy Ht3c IxKo JsEg J7WJ;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{A4E28CC1-D7AA-428E-80DB-62B4389B448E};YQByAGsAQABhAGMAbQAuAG8AcgBnAA==;Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:49:48 GMT;SQBzACAAdABoAGUAcgBlACAAYQAgAHcAYQB5ACAAdABvACAAYgBhAGMAawAgAHUAcAAgAGEAIABzAGkAbgBnAGwAZQAgAFIAQwAtADUAMAAgAHAAYQB0AGMAaAA/AA== x-cr-puzzleid: {A4E28CC1-D7AA-428E-80DB-62B4389B448E} Resent-Message-ID: <-_9oX.A._wB.u2kRKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:49:50 +0000 (UTC) I understand that it is possible to save and restore (and edit) the audio associated with RC-50 patches. I also understand that it is possible to save and restore the entire RC-50 status. Has anyone figured out how to store just the information associated with a single patch? Presumably that would mean saving the audio files along with the appropriate segments of the other files, and being able to put them back into place. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 28 01:47:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96ECD3BE77; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <073da18d0c2f142ae5c49380c76a0aac@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: MY NEW TOY Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:46:54 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <6-FqnD.A.3RH.UusRKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Hi all! I spent the latter part of the afternoon today playing with my newest loop toy, a Line 6 M13. I've researched these things for a little while now and contemplated buying one for well over six months. Thanks Bill Walker for much good advice while I was looking. Then, last week, a deal popped up on Ebay that was too good to pass up. It arrived on Tuesday and I tested it out right away to make sure it was not a DOA brick. Today was the first time I got to spend any serious time with it - just playing around so far, not programming - and the experience was simply delightful. I used a GK-3 equipped Tele and a Boss WP-20G set on hexaphonic "slow gear" just to feed the M13 an interesting signal . . . and a pair of Mackie SRM150s to listen to give it voice and I really liked what I heard. I got a pair of the Line 6 EX-1 expression pedals too and enjoyed toying around with changing various parameters on the fly that way. Seems like a pretty straightforward box, all-in-all. After a long, looooong search, I think I've finally found a device that can give me a simple, nearly all-in-one, guitar looping setup for those quick gigs that don't warrant (or permit) taking along my larger collection of gear (I'm thinking Santa Cruz mostly). As long as it is reliable, I think I've found a winner. Bill Walker is right about one negative about this device though, it really needs a guitar amp to make it sound right tone-wise. Unfortunately I sold off all my combo amps and have switched to just using the Mackie SRM150s for personal monitoring, and a pair of SRM450s for low-end and PA oomph - a system that is all together too clean and devoid of guitaristic character to make the M13 really sound terrific. But for now it's what I've got. I am sure that it will be tempting to add several other gizmos to this . . . my trusty Sustainic C for one, and the aforementioned WP-20G for another, and an EB volume pedal are what I'll try to stick to . . . if I can. As far as simplifying goes, I played a gig a couple of weeks ago with just the GK3 Tele and WP-20G Sustainiac C and a pair of EDPs and Akiras and had the best gig I've had in years. Yeah, I missed the Vortexes and VG-99, guitar synth and all the other neat stuff. But I had a good time . . . a better time than most outings. I played for 4 hours straight in an art gallery wine and cheese setting (talk about a dull audience) and it was really guite satisfying. I'm looking forward to getting to know my new toy better in coming weeks. I think it's going to work for me. Cheers, Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 28 05:14:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B6A63BE75; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Zs6MXqkqXwnc6W2dek03pVCJDiyiYQsLiWJymsTo3cY=; b=hSbwEHLNmxC1Eh4RzBN+VJjyNp9g3k72I595Cu33eXLKnmDGfWL9lggzljfX07AeoQ DpryiYrPW+zMh77Rcgcpf27v0hhAjpwafeRvHkwpKo7ObAmA2Tizxt748D8itDbJjLUi eL/84GSuwgn20dQ6847zqAo7tY+HwuBvDAtl4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bHC5yyFHSRBegzy9mj9O4juZPTbfq3sH6B8zlbIwM8/8OB/XMXH0gRvlFbRl/6PNcS mw6t6P+yGlSr/eWx9fJqBX0I8O1hqrUGTiqMIRtNDHz+PlGz7chj0D5eqeG4814NaL48 OChFGS/Gr6NRfFgn78ufD0dgYl63FrtxtphUk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <073da18d0c2f142ae5c49380c76a0aac@charter.net> References: <073da18d0c2f142ae5c49380c76a0aac@charter.net> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:14:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:14:19 +0000 (UTC) It would stand to reason that the M13 wouldn't replace an amp modeler as it seems like a congolmeration of all their stompbox modelers and a bit more in one big box. Kind of a cool concept, I have to say I liked some of the sounds I got out of the fuzzbox modeler when I had it (run in the send of my Vox Tonelab SE) and my favorite parts of Pod Farm (kind of a software Pod) are the effects. On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 6:46 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wr= ote: > Hi all! > > I spent the latter part of the afternoon today playing with my newest loo= p > toy, a Line 6 M13. > > I've researched these things for a little while now and contemplated buyi= ng > one for well over six months. > > Thanks Bill Walker for much good advice while I was looking. > > Then, last week, a deal popped up on Ebay that was too good to pass up. > > It arrived on Tuesday and I tested it out right away to make sure it was = not > a DOA brick. > > Today was the first time I got to spend any serious time with it - just > playing around so far, not programming - and the experience was simply > delightful. > > I used a GK-3 equipped Tele and a Boss WP-20G set on hexaphonic "slow gea= r" > just to feed the M13 an interesting signal =A0. . . and a pair of Mackie > SRM150s to listen to give it voice and I really liked what I heard. > > I got a pair of the Line 6 EX-1 expression pedals too and enjoyed toying > around with changing various parameters on the fly that way. > > Seems like a pretty straightforward box, all-in-all. > > After a long, looooong search, I think I've finally found a device that c= an > give me a simple, nearly all-in-one, guitar looping setup for those quick > gigs that don't warrant (or permit) taking along my larger collection of > gear (I'm thinking Santa Cruz mostly). > > As long as it is reliable, I think I've found a winner. > > Bill Walker is right about one negative about this device though, it real= ly > needs a guitar amp to make it sound right tone-wise. > > Unfortunately I sold off all my combo amps and have switched to just usin= g > the Mackie SRM150s for personal monitoring, and a pair of SRM450s for > low-end and PA oomph - a system that is all together too clean and devoid= of > guitaristic character to make the M13 really sound terrific. > > But for now it's what I've got. > > I am sure that it will be tempting to add several other gizmos to this . = . . > my trusty Sustainic C for one, and the aforementioned WP-20G for another, > and an EB volume pedal are what I'll try to stick to =A0. . . if I can. > > As far as simplifying goes, I played a gig a couple of weeks ago with jus= t > the GK3 Tele and WP-20G Sustainiac C and a pair of EDPs and Akiras and ha= d > the best gig I've had in years. > > Yeah, I missed the Vortexes and VG-99, guitar synth and all the other nea= t > stuff. > > But I had a good time . . . a better time than most outings. > > I played for 4 hours straight in an art gallery wine and cheese setting > (talk about a dull audience) and it was really guite satisfying. > > I'm looking forward to getting to know my new toy better in coming weeks. > > I think it's going to work for me. > > Cheers, > > Ted > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 28 14:49:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0E693BE7C; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246200564; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=VkzjXPfxXRA1teFx6iCG9RFo3A0=; b=S/GELVDqJEjt52d3Yl+0ez4kNZigYfT/M2TMPnCy0HXOrUa9+6RIGwL/MtsmMAzm uI9FWwdDBeqHmpKB/A1tq3gi0TL+fsb4B6gubd6/EDF34m/05iNwVXZXQXroUxAR; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=MZwQBe6CAAAA:8 a=3Tylui1Xl50xVNHmuTgA:9 a=3JnfLpEYSv-NdX9FGCXXOmwOYaMA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000501c9f7ff$a2916ad0$d5852245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: David Cooper Orten live now Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:49:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <1eTaJC.A.qsG.0L4RKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Mr Cooper is playing on ustream now, nice and bluesy! http://www.ustream.tv/channel/dco-live Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 28 14:54:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 405F23BE78; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:X-Priority:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=dTr+gP/lQLv+a/rUFcj3KN75HlmvwsE/LEkNJ7lC3yNKepkDb0I/XHBRoTbzJ6F0UbH90tjt1o+qjQ/TbGMaVJ5KLqZ+kGcdCkcQPs3+frfOWVEfsL9ZHtM48q4E3vA6akiG7PQxvD25zhueO7f9dxK/g3ReOIfdB3I4KVLEEhg= ; X-Yahoo-SMTP: vuXoQlGswBAz14WbvpNQaeNL9KqqnUl97.TVw0AqeDUSLa94rGp2c1mrKxQi X-YMail-OSG: fqg5CSIVM1kRG.wPIn7flSLjZF.WGD4hOrvQLow3vOtWzZLHIRukhh3VxNxCb7QIz3rpNUH1UmgHYnZqGIaaTWHa3vikUBLy6vbGRYRnEMy6R3.im1gmHBeMQxrMb5MvwhIUW71pwVBCt..jwHT7rRYqkj9f64GrjjnCiogav3UyC2iJm8oL3mBtyl5Kct8_kpOYcvDG.sL_gcZmBbbZ3W.SB3yV.GQ77.PF4wXxazPaM0A2mI8L23C2r2MQrEzD9_HMLxZ4waCURadDoVX7zTWpVSXDkqGmU4.VPTAUh.PHUjqFzQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 In-Reply-To: <000501c9f7ff$a2916ad0$d5852245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000501c9f7ff$a2916ad0$d5852245@YOUR08D5303051> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--541817776 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: David Cooper Orten live now Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:53:58 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:54:02 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--541817776 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed very nice Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 28 Jun 2009, at 15:49, Jeff Duke wrote: > Mr Cooper is playing on ustream now, nice and bluesy! http:// > www.ustream.tv/channel/dco-live > > Jeff > --Apple-Mail-1--541817776 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII very nice

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On 28 Jun 2009, = at 15:49, Jeff Duke wrote:

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Jeff

= --Apple-Mail-1--541817776-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 28 16:04:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B4F43BE7C; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:04:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:04:58 UTC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" X-Originating-IP: 66.188.15.197 User-Agent: Web-Based Email 4.14.32 Message-Id: <20090628085818.cf1bf4dd1663421b591f059a487399bd.4158838ba9.wbe@email01.secureserver.net> From: mark@grubmah.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: MY NEW TOY Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:58:18 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:04:59 +0000 (UTC)
The Tech21 character series pedals seem pretty good. I got a Blon= de and a Liverpool last week. I haven't had as much time to play with them = as I would like, but they ought to sit nicely in the effects loop of an M13= . (That pairing was Bill's suggestion a while back.)

The M13 seems like the natural evolution of the Line6 stompbox modelers.= It makes it easy to play with combinations of effects just as the individu= al modelers did and more or less recreates the pedal board effect. The effe= cts are interesting but not deeply interesting. The Vortex has more interes= ting effects, but it's a pain to program, a pain to switch effects on (rela= tively speaking), and frequently noisy. For example, Line6's tremolos are n= ice but they aren't the Shimmer effect from the Vortex. Having tempo sync f= or the effects is nice, but I don't think the M13 will sync to MIDI clock (= feh, since the device does have MIDI). The looper improves on the DL4 but I= think it's mono and there isn't the option of having it generate tempo inf= ormation for the effects.

What would be really coo= l (not going to happen) would be for Line6 to take essentially this same fo= rm factor and build a multi-looper with it possibly with a couple of post-l= oop effects available as well. An M13, a "Loop 13", and a couple of Tech21 = pedals could make for a powerful and portable rig.

Mark

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Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fKTA9IjeDa4V9UzTRaEo07OvUJIUQWUm5wWiXr/hwqU=; b=Ee+wYoiYFBrx1UI26pugMRNV5+BN0cc3M4WZVc3jHX96xDtAXctNIReCr6KnBe5UmJ pjE1Ssbd/C1mgKQGtu0OSLEXAZXBM4FW+byj0y8NS3B5q256XAqgBekV15oO3fucI/bK iTXGHKerl1cI4ylYjQ9T9PoLC02x7ETAIrWek= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=kVbLGgekhpcVa1+diBcGh7tlIS/bEq8ItuGUlIvXpAMGJUbetFTQWn7aqCrMOyLgab eg91QDM/8gcGCvxGikf2u7UioEg0tfY/WlorxB4FXzILcC7kP6l9e/Y3Pz185Ty9tlgk bFBqU38/HYySy6NctFNnIk+QsURfIagAIfTUk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:18:48 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906280918h68f383feqd0b7b25f5ad99d3f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Video from this saturday's MoinSound Studio Session From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Honoring the request of some fans (*g*), the choice of (wind) instruments was expanded for this week's MoinSound Studio Session (every other Saturday on http://justin.tv/moinlabs). Now here's a video of the first track - looping content: there's a lot of EDP-style loop modification going on, including everybody's favourite Unrounded SusMultiply, SusSpeed, SusReverse (and Mobius' proprietary rate shift). http://vimeo.com/5361188 Enjoy! Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 28 17:49:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7061F3BE73; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246211374; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=i7XFGiKUP78na4oDgAdDPAAswss=; b=ZD28PyyZhMj/86Q4ROaOXQzYFvgORsjNss3HRmhUXtNxw0bJqpeSKqPNq9znSFt4 qKmdmlxGOpYkdeFz+AHvWQiKUJOpd9tv/h+qMoo2OYtgVwuIceGuBNT/gxMJCflC; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=WnzYjt4fAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=MZwQBe6CAAAA:8 a=UZE30PKGILUo3aFJCXwA:9 a=X1DeY3MgY57me__W1zCQAaNgiEEA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000701c9f818$de5ab580$d5852245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: Virtual sound and Vision Festival Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:50:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Just a note to announce the launching of a Myspace page for the proposed Virtual Sound and Vision Festival. http://www.myspace.com/vsvfestival More details will be announced, this is an idea thats time has come! Best, Jeff http://jeffduke.org/ http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 28 21:21:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 105833BE79; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <073da18d0c2f142ae5c49380c76a0aac@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:21:18 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, it's really too bad that there's no also a single-device solution for a stereo amp simulator to go along with this device. Sure, it's possible to hook up a couple of Sans Amp pedals (either the "Classic" or a pair of somethings from the new "Character" series) but then again we're adding more devices, their wal-wart power supplies and multiplying the mess of spaghetti on the floor to the point of this-is-no-longer-the-simplicity-I-had-in-mind-when-I-started. However, a couple of Sans Amp pedals is better than toting a couple of amps. We'll see what I wind up with. But one thing is for sure, I'm not playing with the big rig anymore where there is not plenty of time to set it up beforehand and then a real proper sound check long before performance time - too many heartbreaks. Cheers, Ted On Jun 27, 2009, at 10:14 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > It would stand to reason that the M13 wouldn't replace an amp modeler > as it seems like a congolmeration of all their stompbox modelers and a > bit more in one big box. Kind of a cool concept, I have to say I > liked some of the sounds I got out of the fuzzbox modeler when I had > it (run in the send of my Vox Tonelab SE) and my favorite parts of Pod > Farm (kind of a software Pod) are the effects. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Jun 28 21:53:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 694C53BE73; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9F83A.C4CE9A56" Subject: RE: Orange Years Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:50:59 -0400 Message-ID: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD0823980869@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Orange Years Thread-Index: Acn4OoXvHc+44aP2RsOIxunWQpyEzA== References: <000001c9f69c$cdbbfc70$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> From: "Dean, Hal " To: "Loopers Delight" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jun 2009 21:52:45.0579 (UTC) FILETIME=[C5204DB0:01C9F83A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:53:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9F83A.C4CE9A56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Orange Years" is a tremendous recording, full of tuneful and = adventurous MUSIC in which looping techniquese are important, but fully = integrated. Hal Dean ________________________________ From: Michael Peters [mailto:mp@mpeters.de] Sent: Fri 6/26/2009 4:29 PM To: Loopers Delight Subject: Orange Years congrats to Andreas Willers whose "Orange Years" album has been reviewed today in the Tageszeitung, Germany's most important independent left = daily newspaper. Are there soundclips somewhere Andreas? it sounds as if this album contains solo livelooping jazz guitar music. If this is somewhat similar to what you played in Berlin last year, I gotta have it.=20 -Michael ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9F83A.C4CE9A56 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Orange Years=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
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congrats to Andreas Willers whose "Orange Years" album = has been reviewed
today in the Tageszeitung, Germany's most important = independent left daily
newspaper. Are there soundclips somewhere = Andreas? it sounds as if this
album contains solo livelooping jazz = guitar music. If this is somewhat
similar to what you played in = Berlin last year, I gotta have = it.

-Michael
------_=_NextPart_001_01C9F83A.C4CE9A56-- From maywa01@poczta.onet.pl Sun Jun 28 22:35:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 765 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:35:31 UTC Received: from mail.cmw.co.za (mail.cmw.co.za [196.211.35.106]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7233BE6F; Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:35:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([82.128.27.225]) by mail.cmw.co.za (IceWarp 9.1.0) with ASMTP id JCY26628; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:22:28 +0200 Reply-To: From: "Ahmad Jassim" Subject: REQUEST FOR URGENT MUTUAL BUSINESS TRANSACTION. Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:22:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: 75b402fa3093f5be0b004ed8315cda2d To: undisclosed-recipients:;
REQUEST FOR URGENT MUTUAL BUSINESS TRANSACTION.

I am Ahmad Jassim, (2004 PROJECT MANAGER N.N.P.C NIGERIA ), Procurement and Contract Award with the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (N.N.P.C), Federal Republic of Nigeria.

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 29 00:29:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6FD83BE7E; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=stmDb+nMoCBBg1J4TJPE2hWl4r9QHAMCLlsSuhxl32k=; b=fAfwwGKLDqZPBTPlVNcloQ9Pk6b6g39YF4N9IaukR9bLde6stUCsn8FeQK7AaQ4z5D IC73HXfhYeQsJ6upC5hjtWx1h+mXqo5Ih/Xi937oqln+LDlILqoH1cVqs30cvxHSVYQC 5yMXhLUGqSCB4dZxKf1ThyLjHVVQaw/byi2rk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=v9dTjfmMPmn4Zw6d8s+GRbBtZxhBuCJnw7TTq/HueSMpUOYBeJOiHOifHOb1N3+4lf PeXpImqD3wle+f4X0eKZJ5ZNzbDEvx5A4TjByWuS8lpxJQBTpW9Js7PZ3v3mHGNMQ+2T sCJXRZt+Je0TUpbr5VyIY1xI3s5f9aUi1V1yY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <073da18d0c2f142ae5c49380c76a0aac@charter.net> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:29:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:29:21 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 2:21 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wr= ote: > Yeah, it's really too bad that there's no also a single-device solution f= or > a stereo amp simulator to go along with this device. Aren't all the flavors of Pods and the Digitech stuff and Vox boxes exactly this? Ted, I know you struggle with back issues and lugging stuff is no fun so I wonder why you don't look into a laptop solution. I think you'd be happily surprised at the sound quality of the IK Multimedia modelers. I started because I was looking for a solution for bass and I was blown away by the quality of Ampeg SVX (IK's Ampeg endorsed package) and there was a two for one at the time so I went for their Jimi Hendrix package. I loved them so much I ended up getting all of them. Now you can get the Stealthpedal for $199 and it comes with a light version of Amplitube 2 and the full Amplitube Metal. It's a good deal. That, Mobius, a host and laptop and your guitar and that would be all you'd need to move unless you want a second controller like an FCB1010 (you probably would want that as a Mobius controller) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 29 02:56:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB8F73BE7C; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:56:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <073da18d0c2f142ae5c49380c76a0aac@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:56:17 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:56:23 +0000 (UTC) Mark, I am really, really not a ludite when it comes to the laptop thing. It's just that I lack the few thousand dollars to upgrade my sturdy old=20= Mac laptop to the latest greatest model and all the software and=20 peripherals I'd have to buy (or re-buy) as well. Because I would also be doing lotsa graphic work on it - hey I'm a Mac=20= guy making his living on the computer as well and can't afford 2=20 separate machines - that financial consideration becomes a real barrier=20= as well. I'm working on a shoestring. Then it becomes this big switch-over for ALL the software I use - and=20 justifying it at tax time and convincing the spouse that it's a=20 worthwhile place for our money when we're putting 2 of our 3 boys=20 through college become a big bother. Believe me, back in the early to mid '90s (when I worked for Seymour=20 Duncan) I got together with some of my pals who were big-time software=20= programmer/developers and we explored the possibility of doing all the=20= stuff we take for granted these days as off-the-shelf Native=20 Instruments and IK Multimedia software solutions. I even worked up a GUI that had little stomp-boxes and rack stuff on it=20= (modeling it after the stuff in my rack). But the computers of the mid '90s were still not quite powerful or fast=20= enough to do it right. My little group of Santa Barbara engineers and nerds disbanded and=20 moved away. Not too many years later I found myself in Oregon doing graphics for IK=20= Multimedia magazine ads as a long distance freelancer - how ironic is=20 that? Anyhoo, I've always been a little bit "behind the curve" in terms of=20 what computer hardware I can afford to buy at any time. What I do buy (when I buy) is on the cheap - buying almost discontinued=20= models before a big change just as they're fading them out and then use=20= 'em for 5, 6, 7 or 8 years without upgrading. What I really want to do is do the MaxMSP/Jitter thing, but it's really=20= going to be a long time before I can own the computer that will do what=20= I want to do there. For now I can afford minor purchases of used gear on Ebay and try to=20 work up something that "works for me" in the fashion that I am used to=20= playing. The fact that I am really not financially all that well off and=20 struggle with out-of-date equipment (on the computer side of things=20 anyway) is the sad little secret of my musical and professional life. I have the cool, fairly late model, music HARDWARE that I have because=20= I make small shrewd investments in the stuff over a longer period of=20 time, and then buy and sell again and trade it like a kid trading=20 marbles or Pokemon cards on the schoolyard. I also know some music company reps personally and have other=20 connections that allow me to buy some things wholesale. I have no such contacts like that on the computer side of things. I simply have not been able to afford to migrate over, in the=20 first-class way that I'd want to yet. I have to wonder (sometimes) if it will ever happen. But I remain hopeful. On the other side of the coin, I have seen a lot more computer=20 melt-downs at looping festivals than dedicated hardware snafus. When a live looping lappy won't boot up on stage mysteriously (as I=20 have seen all too often), or suddenly has dumped all of a performer's=20 much-labored-over custom FX parameters (also seen), or stubbornly won't=20= recognize their MIDI foot-controller for no particular reason=20 whatsoever (ditto) . . . I have to think schlepping a little redundant=20= gear (so that the show can go on) is not a terrible thing. I guess that's where I'm at. I'm not happy about it, but there you are. Cheers, Ted On Jun 28, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 2:21 PM, tEd =AE = KiLLiAn=20 > wrote: >> Yeah, it's really too bad that there's no also a single-device=20 >> solution for >> a stereo amp simulator to go along with this device. > > Aren't all the flavors of Pods and the Digitech stuff and Vox boxes > exactly this? > > Ted, I know you struggle with back issues and lugging stuff is no fun > so I wonder why you don't look into a laptop solution. I think you'd > be happily surprised at the sound quality of the IK Multimedia > modelers. I started because I was looking for a solution for bass and > I was blown away by the quality of Ampeg SVX (IK's Ampeg endorsed > package) and there was a two for one at the time so I went for their > Jimi Hendrix package. I loved them so much I ended up getting all of > them. Now you can get the Stealthpedal for $199 and it comes with a > light version of Amplitube 2 and the full Amplitube Metal. It's a > good deal. That, Mobius, a host and laptop and your guitar and that > would be all you'd need to move unless you want a second controller > like an FCB1010 (you probably would want that as a Mobius controller) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 29 07:32:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9342C3BE7C; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:32:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 218429489/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.176.42/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.176.42 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlwCAFYKSEpPTrAq/2dsb2JhbAAIkXW5BYQNBYkX X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,308,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="218429489" Message-ID: <4A487167.2020305@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:46:47 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY References: <073da18d0c2f142ae5c49380c76a0aac@charter.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:32:54 +0000 (UTC) tEd ® KiLLiAn wrote: > Yeah, it's really too bad that there's no also a single-device solution > for a stereo amp simulator to go along with this device. > Well, I obviuosly you know best what you need to achieve...but... Rather than put two amp sims after the fx, surely it would be neater to put one amp sim between guitar and fx. That gives you more options for combining sounds, and doesn't mush up the layers together. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 29 08:11:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBDF93BE7E; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246263070; bh=Uu3GUrGDWOJayX72Mba77A1u2urvF3M+kyBMBvivG5Y=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=5F5+qzI8RrFUL30GR5gIWsfFuOZUdvMS1sYBJx6sHekUPV6JaGoz8DuVmB7Ic5rWBsY5YVE2zqtyXUhzLR3G74n2lH/TyQHqe//49eFgnFU3jmI6TThmZbd/0TryTb6z4Ws/7lWC/fjKpJQs3At6zywgDR16QfRw78tYwsLb6Ic= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=33DaKrk5lJQylOiAycnW1YXPIxsU6ULEClzRDdDycuZsoULYjqyMDWV3oXZHBNsE9DB133VozEf+4jmmGoZ3QMBbl+GUht7JdWO3O6B900yybJwSOv9UIE1YSR4g4R7EeM/bpWFbsbfV29IPynHU5jP7fUk44M/jZPONvAlesh4=; Message-ID: <488784.34977.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:11:10 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: RE: MY NEW TOY To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2b7qzB.A.aWH.fcHSKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:11:11 +0000 (UTC) you might also consider the adrenalinn III stomp it has killer tremolos,fil= ters midi timebased fx and amp sims!=0ALuis=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulo= com=0A=0A=0A--- mark@grubmah.com schrieb am So, 28.6.200= 9:=0A=0A> Von: mark@grubmah.com =0A> Betreff: RE: MY NEW = TOY=0A> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Sonntag, 28. Jun= i 2009, 8:58=0A> The=0A> Tech21 character series pedals seem pretty good. I= got a=0A> Blonde and a Liverpool last week. I haven't had as much=0A> time= to play with them as I would like, but they ought to=0A> sit nicely in the= effects loop of an M13. (That pairing was=0A> Bill's suggestion a while ba= ck.)=0A> The M13 seems like the natural evolution of the=0A> Line6 stompbox= modelers. It makes it easy to play with=0A> combinations of effects just a= s the individual modelers did=0A> and more or less recreates the pedal boar= d effect. The=0A> effects are interesting but not deeply interesting. The= =0A> Vortex has more interesting effects, but it's a pain to=0A> program, a= pain to switch effects on (relatively speaking),=0A> and frequently noisy.= For example, Line6's tremolos are=0A> nice but they aren't the Shimmer eff= ect from the Vortex.=0A> Having tempo sync for the effects is nice, but I d= on't=0A> think the M13 will sync to MIDI clock (feh, since the device=0A> d= oes have MIDI). The looper improves on the DL4 but I think=0A> it's mono an= d there isn't the option of having it=0A> generate tempo information for th= e effects.=0A> What would be really cool (not going to happen)=0A> would be= for Line6 to take essentially this same form factor=0A> and build a multi-= looper with it possibly with a couple of=0A> post-loop effects available as= well. An M13, a "Loop=0A> 13", and a couple of Tech21 pedals could make fo= r a=0A> powerful and portable rig.=0A> Mark=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 29 08:15:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 348793BE7F; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:15:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246263315; bh=8UQzndOgvK2sSO/gCnBiIIX+rAz8Fu6Iax/EpHQtTnM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gq50s8o2RFSP1fb9YQhxR0yXVN5MTz90GF1UJ5Vz9SBZEtO1ZD+DczB7wbqLMYIj5U5KFdm5p6IykabKv8U9EA41kELg15jQUMJ+wcPouoKOP0F58zV6x7VyDCvpnFHN1u7+eiyTLredV1rH2YLuvTPvooCSjOAP3BMlQXVVDQM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2qAahAAoVcsnHYetuuJdx22nP97n4q4ONgjSKV0aJW7DChLYf4vrbxqnupuI3KoA/p9lo6SOORgthj3T3vtWUKsddp9hMI01GOYWSSlDh9q1LoHTBA7fD/9pqZYslCrdrT1LeZwxxctEwXx2AQBTH5Eksf39nbzQbgcZTWWLyaI=; Message-ID: <134212.37726.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:15:14 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: Impossible Music review To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:15:16 +0000 (UTC) Michal i think a lot of us would be also interested in the making proccess = of this very interesting and delightful CD feel free to tell us!=0Acheers= =0ALuis=0A=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- eterogeneo schrieb am Fr, 26.6.2009:=0A=0A> Von: eterogeneo =0A> Betreff: Impossible Music review=0A> An: mp@michaelpeters.d= e, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Datum: Freitag, 26. Juni 2009, 1= 1:46=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Hi,=0A> =0A> I want to=0A> p= oint out this nice =0A> review I've found by accident about last Michael Pe= ters=0A> production "Impossibile =0A> Music"=0A> http://www.neural.it/sound= /2009/06/michael_peters_impossible_music.phtml=0A> Congratulations !=0A> = =A0=0A> Fabio =0A> www.eterogeneo.com=0A> www.myspace.com/eterogeneo=0A> = =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 29 08:27:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17EFC3BE78; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 304 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:27:04 UTC Subject: Leinhos, Peter is out of the office. From: peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:21:29 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on hons_100/Servers/FarmersInsurance(Release 7.0.3|September 26, 2007) at 06/29/2009 03:21:34 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:27:05 +0000 (UTC) I will be out of the office starting 06/29/2009 and will not return until 07/07/2009. 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Thank you.***** From info264@singnet.com.sg Mon Jun 29 11:57:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3969 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:57:10 UTC Received: from comsmtp2.singnet.com.sg (comsmtp2.singnet.com.sg [165.21.101.75]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E963BE70 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:56:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arrowana.singnet.com.sg (arrowana.singnet.com.sg [165.21.101.120]) by comsmtp2.singnet.com.sg (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n5TAoi16032377; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:50:44 +0800 Received: from arrowana.singnet.com.sg (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by arrowana.singnet.com.sg (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n5TAoS0c003833; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:50:38 +0800 Received: (from cooluser@localhost) by arrowana.singnet.com.sg (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) id n5TAoL5h003755; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:50:21 +0800 X-Authentication-Warning: arrowana.singnet.com.sg: cooluser set sender to info264@singnet.com.sg using -f To: info@bnl.org Subject: Ref: UK/9420X/05 Message-ID: <1246272621.4a489c6dd9643@arrowana.singnet.com.sg> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:50:21 +0800 (SGT) From: info264 Reply-To: mr.royphildept001@msn.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: SingNet WebMail Agent Name: Mr. Roy Phil Tel: +44 704-571-0545 Email: (mr.royphildept001@msn.com) This is to inform you that you have been selected for a cash prize of £1,000,000 (British Pounds) held on the 5th of June 2009 in London Uk. 1.Full Name 2.Full Address 3.Marital Status 4.Occupation 5.Age From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 29 12:01:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 182483BE7E; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:01:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246276885; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=1pwFMWHKDH2QPn4A44AHES1Pqh4=; b=I5KmTUmz7/GDTW67xHinfyruazrkw9CdwBbm2LFbceotIYqMkOkQQk5vIHaYMQTu Y75wnsLIQfzp1EY0iXWVGi2naXHhFU30iGTjgPh0j5otASOO3+4Km8WXl+MZ71mG; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=FcAFIstCAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=_C0dzqkhqsJ3NqaRifIA:9 a=ma8HEAooiSpi-YaClPAA:7 a=NNRNcnDUibQl0qmmFB3-tGY2_yMA:4 a=NV0LgFqsyRYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001f01c9f8b1$52d06a20$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <073da18d0c2f142ae5c49380c76a0aac@charter.net> <4A487167.2020305@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:01:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:01:26 +0000 (UTC) > Rather than put two amp sims after the fx, surely it would be neater to > put one amp sim between guitar and fx. What would you recommend in a stereo amp sim Andy? Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 3:46 AM Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY > tEd ® KiLLiAn wrote: >> Yeah, it's really too bad that there's no also a single-device solution >> for a stereo amp simulator to go along with this device. >> > > Well, I obviuosly you know best what you need to achieve...but... > > Rather than put two amp sims after the fx, surely it would be neater to > put one amp sim between guitar and fx. > > That gives you more options for combining sounds, and doesn't > mush up the layers together. > > andy > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 29 12:23:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7B413BE77; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=dKaaGqkTdEY5usxyc9YyCeUhJAo/JGyOtgc4Gg12QaA=; b=gahfHcaWu4C0tqtatakNkgkzYWAq8NSSrt3BgpyXVZHKn9aBtYChWmjwwwJmoATE9I t7eLbQmlP+IBHP86TCbK8QhAKqxRl5UYOkbLruS9aVWyRA0+WgA1k/v5X5Lm294Prnsk VtVN5L6nFPukY6ucm4rsIWVEusb3ILrxOcQU8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=IuYLOqvP1qsihvnsS4B8rGhAld5xckg4LSgxO03EdvNo1qcOahZN7IGUp/gSlD1hCU ykiDCSDxBjMfoG/GoiMlncbrRqLWsRlioVfhq+LFtmC7aaSzo2HehsAHOKqKNo3nQdz0 TFNKmNcnEfAdXsILbXT8nwaU8YVYwLPnMP9/c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <073da18d0c2f142ae5c49380c76a0aac@charter.net> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:23:25 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 413de4fe53095309 Message-ID: <101191640906290523p15369f79sd33f18a4461365ac@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016361e7bdcc187ae046d7bc183 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:23:28 +0000 (UTC) --0016361e7bdcc187ae046d7bc183 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:56 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn w= rote: > > > When a live looping lappy won't boot up on stage mysteriously (as I have > seen all too often), or suddenly has dumped all of a performer's > much-labored-over custom FX parameters (also seen), or stubbornly won't > recognize their MIDI foot-controller for no particular reason whatsoever > (ditto) . . . I have to think schlepping a little redundant gear (so that > the show can go on) is not a terrible thing. > > Hey, I've proposed naming my new collaboration (with Tom Ritchford, aka Tom Swirly) "Crash proof" as a talisman, after two succeeding gigs where the freaking emu midi interface decided to take a vacation for the entirety of the set, leaving me entirely without footcontrol! (good thing i can actuall= y play that guitar as a guitar!) --0016361e7bdcc187ae046d7bc183 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:56 PM, tEd = =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:

When a live looping lappy won't boot up on stage mysteriously (as I hav= e seen all too often), or suddenly has dumped all of a performer's much= -labored-over custom FX parameters (also seen), or stubbornly won't rec= ognize their MIDI foot-controller for no particular reason whatsoever (ditt= o) . . . I have to think schlepping a little redundant gear (so that the sh= ow can go on) is not a terrible thing.

Hey, I've proposed naming my new collaboration (w= ith Tom Ritchford, aka Tom Swirly) "Crash proof" as a talisman, a= fter two succeeding gigs where the freaking emu midi interface decided to t= ake a vacation for the entirety of the set, leaving me entirely without foo= tcontrol! (good thing i can actually play that guitar as a guitar!)

--0016361e7bdcc187ae046d7bc183-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 29 13:05:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A1893BE7C; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246280748; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=CUxoIQSKrauccP+1PcgT2IR+2Ls=; b=LbD5NqStTHwXMF40N2bS/C6ypftZDk0la44BuEYhpiWicvIA/EOBiFfbAJJ63Oqi za3YFTK3ZCF8L8iMIul1phv6StZhIKurJXMAGvkbVKFeWpqIYFW9IufIIPuL7y8B; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=vE9Yp3RhAAAA:8 a=aWI0FlfDBD4bQFFWntQA:9 a=oMZaoo3nkpwOgTOG0REA:7 a=sDQt2nRptRwtJzWLz9VPk_QTx-8A:4 a=6y61hU8uYSEA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=zXEfOMw5J-gA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <004401c9f8ba$516ccc60$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <488784.34977.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:05:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:05:52 +0000 (UTC) maybe an adrenalinn III and an M 13 would replace my whole setup...hmmm. I sure can't move it around now. sigh.. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.Angulo" To: Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:11 AM Subject: RE: MY NEW TOY you might also consider the adrenalinn III stomp it has killer tremolos,filters midi timebased fx and amp sims! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- mark@grubmah.com schrieb am So, 28.6.2009: > Von: mark@grubmah.com > Betreff: RE: MY NEW TOY > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Sonntag, 28. Juni 2009, 8:58 > The > Tech21 character series pedals seem pretty good. I got a > Blonde and a Liverpool last week. I haven't had as much > time to play with them as I would like, but they ought to > sit nicely in the effects loop of an M13. (That pairing was > Bill's suggestion a while back.) > The M13 seems like the natural evolution of the > Line6 stompbox modelers. It makes it easy to play with > combinations of effects just as the individual modelers did > and more or less recreates the pedal board effect. The > effects are interesting but not deeply interesting. The > Vortex has more interesting effects, but it's a pain to > program, a pain to switch effects on (relatively speaking), > and frequently noisy. For example, Line6's tremolos are > nice but they aren't the Shimmer effect from the Vortex. > Having tempo sync for the effects is nice, but I don't > think the M13 will sync to MIDI clock (feh, since the device > does have MIDI). The looper improves on the DL4 but I think > it's mono and there isn't the option of having it > generate tempo information for the effects. > What would be really cool (not going to happen) > would be for Line6 to take essentially this same form factor > and build a multi-looper with it possibly with a couple of > post-loop effects available as well. An M13, a "Loop > 13", and a couple of Tech21 pedals could make for a > powerful and portable rig. > Mark > > > From marketing@artmania.com.br Mon Jun 29 13:47:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2409 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:47:42 UTC Received: from aracaju.braslink.com (smtp.braslink.com [204.16.0.117]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0AA3BE70 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alex (unverified [200.171.95.42]) by smtp-out1.braslink.com (smtp-out1) with ESMTP id 21565162-1862518 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:07:18 -0400 From: PAPEL DE FIBRA DE CANA To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: SUSTENTABILIDADE Sender: PAPEL DE FIBRA DE CANA Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:07:17 GMT Message-ID: Disposition-Notification-To:PAPEL DE FIBRA DE CANA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-AntiAbuse: Priority: urgent X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 X-Authenticated-User: marketing@artmania.com.br
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 29 13:52:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC26D3BE78; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:52:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uGQTKFkn4a9Wu/sMcFVLWRqLxgVm1FAiWLyItGXVHhM=; b=Il+yfEmd1pDRVag7PAQtoirUoCRXpzlAiGXzOwiay6YKt8ti3k6Asgh6QtdCFHnf6W 2lsRswaRyCxyhdqUZXsS/UK/X/YTVaflI/vuLXyWCmhjZs8G4cSBBDioV6Av06BDxa0o F0MjFzhFQmqIfLqN+UxRGfrOBqkpzwFKRbv4w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bJTTMAq6QZyyjQfbSL5Ze+X7vvxHQIie6pCJ18vrNUcoCLPI92FDs1b9oV1QL1+n+r 9OzaQgHF0yWVi7TLKpb0g/CtrMAXyin9VMegBkYmZylUSuzcqhAI11p0YEVA4yjqG37T 4nJla3yn+T9REeIkYFBpfb9d//lsjrOHhVtfs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <004401c9f8ba$516ccc60$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <488784.34977.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <004401c9f8ba$516ccc60$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:52:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:52:04 +0000 (UTC) I found a laptop that's a bit more powerful than the one I use on ebay for less than the cost of a new M16 http://cgi.ebay.com/Toshiba-Satellite-Laptop-Notebook-Computer-PC-Brand-NEW= _W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a12Q7c66Q3a2Q7c39Q3a1Q7c72Q3a1234Q7c240Q3a= 1308Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem29f= f1cc0e2QQitemZ180373733602QQptZAUQ5fcompQ5flaptopQQsalenotsupported That does bump it up to $679 with a new Stealthpedal. Mobius is free and you can use a free host until you safe up for a more capable one. M13 is $400 on ebay and an amp simulator will tack on another $200 at least which brings that system up to $600. It's just not that far off. Granted that computer 4 years ago set me back about $1400. Crazy. Yeah, computers can screw up but my system is really stable unless I do something dumb like drag in a new instrument while a lot of stuff is going on. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 29 14:17:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3F6E3BE7C; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:17:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" X-Originating-IP: 66.188.15.197 User-Agent: Web-Based Email 4.14.32 Message-Id: <20090629071756.cf1bf4dd1663421b591f059a487399bd.763515274c.wbe@email01.secureserver.net> From: mark@grubmah.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: MY NEW TOY Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:17:56 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <31IT3D.A.hgB.V0MSKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:17:57 +0000 (UTC)
If you don't go stereo, the character series pedals go for about = $149 a piece, so the M13 + amp sim is still cheaper. Of course, for the con= text of this list, that means you either need to live with the M13 looper (= so maybe stereo amp sim doesn't matter) or already have one's own looper al= ready.

Has anyone found a good stand for laptops i= f one goes that route?

On a slightly related note,= I was comparing my Yamaha S90ES against using it to control some of the in= struments in Ableton Live. It just didn't feel nearly as responsive until I= went and cranked down the buffer size. How tight do the pure laptop users = in this group generally run their audio buffers?

M= ark

From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 29 15:10:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C519C3BE7E; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:10:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246288255; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=RDCIcCbn+t6InlDMw4+BgpEIFlc=; b=GxmvpOM0Y/rUY8UZ31k5oDlLooqOtFpFhBoR0vMQKSd0zWolIGClIu98C6i5tsaH AByRPyNvRi3zekjgAUgXCPx6mMtuZMqr4XR+KxLWwydNtFN6mFu3XCxbd1owqVKt; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vE9Yp3RhAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=41T36GqaEnzS5VYQIMAA:9 a=6diDp_b8Ud86GKnYROYA:7 a=rrwQtrxaYwduSNBeLVm06bRDXhcA:4 a=zXEfOMw5J-gA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=sD3YqiaWZc5D7fynaTUA:9 a=zico4C1_StvKxQ3WCfYA:7 a=GIRdkZJiKfA4xuGgMZxtx-hx38YA:4 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000d01c9f8cb$cbf06a30$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <20090629071756.cf1bf4dd1663421b591f059a487399bd.763515274c.wbe@email01.secureserver.net> Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:10:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9F8AA.4494C8E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:10:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9F8AA.4494C8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thats right, I forgot that the M 13s looper is mono. That kills it for = me although I could stereoize it with post loop fx. J ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark@grubmah.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 10:17 AM Subject: RE: MY NEW TOY If you don't go stereo, the character series pedals go for about $149 = a piece, so the M13 + amp sim is still cheaper. Of course, for the = context of this list, that means you either need to live with the M13 = looper (so maybe stereo amp sim doesn't matter) or already have one's = own looper already. Has anyone found a good stand for laptops if one goes that route? On a slightly related note, I was comparing my Yamaha S90ES against = using it to control some of the instruments in Ableton Live. It just = didn't feel nearly as responsive until I went and cranked down the = buffer size. How tight do the pure laptop users in this group generally = run their audio buffers? Mark ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9F8AA.4494C8E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Thats right, I forgot that the M 13s = looper is=20 mono. That kills it for me although I could stereoize it with post loop=20 fx.

J

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mark@grubmah.com=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20

Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 = 10:17=20 AM

Subject: RE: MY NEW TOY

If you don't go stereo, the character series pedals go for about = $149 a=20 piece, so the M13 + amp sim is still cheaper. Of course, for the = context of=20 this list, that means you either need to live with the M13 looper (so = maybe=20 stereo amp sim doesn't matter) or already have one's own looper = already.

Has anyone found a good stand for laptops if one goes that = route?

On a slightly related note, I was comparing my Yamaha S90ES = against using=20 it to control some of the instruments in Ableton Live. It just didn't = feel=20 nearly as responsive until I went and cranked down the buffer size. = How tight=20 do the pure laptop users in this group generally run their audio=20 buffers?

Mark

------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9F8AA.4494C8E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 29 19:24:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F13BF3BE7F; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1246303479; bh=08Wl0QSv9/u8eO4aC0F4p10A3HZNkIcwasQxOiosQF8=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EYKOskJjyE287FHVDyURH7lgC2uqHNrYyMyOpjxWbzjkbn9RlEGDYVHzqKxiV1G8y tht1ph68K4Kb6/9oH8yF/yUiGDGgGcWF9H+paGulfmnfDBlwI6042hFXfCa7jozFsv iGep8+VdpEbGkstmAC2pIYUFWUVtmblBSW/sdo28= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: Antwerp loopfest - first mp3's available for download Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:24:10 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c9f8ef$2e021390$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acn47yxSrta6FTF7S2m3uHvPm+ZuhA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Just to let you know I've uploaded the first 5 mp3's of the festival: http://euroloopfest.com/2009/antwerp/mp3/index.shtml Special thanks to Sound Engineer Ronald Mari=EBn for the live mixing and recording of this festival. Depending on the act, the mixed exists of = 2-6 tracks + a stereo audience mix to add a little ambience from the public = and the theathre. Enjoy :) PS We are still working on the video's, so stay tuned. ---=20 Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20 http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 29 19:50:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBF803BE7C; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246305022; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=NH+ZUg0mGnPAgvkNcvlqpNll/Wg=; b=gNbRxOSG3/Gyq1q3Tjf3QPLc0MuWNaTBV8hq3IoOQ8g9s4YZsOPleSJljgR8X22d fW3+WiSHILzvFj654uPNlT0MbzvMeiaZ/eE759leh+rh3fTjx4vuBqqznxuksUZE; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mk9ku_heVcAA:10 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=IohcgyEqAAAA:8 a=pR1JmGMOAAAA:8 a=04H4W7peKjeND4TkoDwA:9 a=jFgQnGdmp88zP3hDhxcvKUbbwNQA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601c9f8f2$d5adefd0$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000001c9f8ef$2e021390$020313ac@PIPO> Subject: Re: Antwerp loopfest - first mp3's available for download Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:50:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:50:22 +0000 (UTC) They sound most excellent Sjaak! thanks Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sjaak" To: Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 3:24 PM Subject: Antwerp loopfest - first mp3's available for download Hi, Just to let you know I've uploaded the first 5 mp3's of the festival: http://euroloopfest.com/2009/antwerp/mp3/index.shtml Special thanks to Sound Engineer Ronald Mariën for the live mixing and recording of this festival. Depending on the act, the mixed exists of 2-6 tracks + a stereo audience mix to add a little ambience from the public and the theathre. Enjoy :) PS We are still working on the video's, so stay tuned. --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 29 21:27:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 810173BE77; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <8bd15763c9dc62a67034c8eecc0e05d9.squirrel@cruziomail.cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: re: MY NEW TOY From: looppool@cruzio.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <_NbFvD.A.cPG.pGTSKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Hey Ted, I keep hearing people say that the new Adrenalinn has really good amp simulations in it. On top of that, it's famed for having very cool filter effects. I don't actually have experience with it, but I've read that the amp simulations are good in several different electronic music, guitar and production forums online. Also, this may be a bit naive coming from someone who only plays at being a guitar player, but I just love my little 5 watt , battery powered VOX amplifier. I just bought a second one. At low volumes it sounds really good and there are cool amp simulations from clean tweeds to heavily overdriven marshalls and a fair amount of onboard effects. It's amazing for something that can be had on line for between $100 and $140. On top of that, it's incredibly small and lightweight. I'm loving setting it up at exactly guitar height after all of my stomp box pedals, micing it and putting the mic through my Looperlative. You can get wicked manipulation of feedback this way and at very low volumes. I kind of pride myself on being the quietest noise artist in the scene these days.......lol. I had to have a red one, so I'm going to sell my initial blue one for $80 plus shipping if anyone is interested. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jun 29 23:37:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 418523BE77; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:37:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nu5LUTQPq1kYnLmcMl7CMCfA6NFKB4fRvQ1cMOenCkI=; b=tvDH70BKRQHBmDW3cDPRjbJWXau7D0QxaRKG5fVxROR2Tv6gtYMcG84L1SgMv+hNjq K0n0tus+xrsPk5bKna/zd9PBXrETkCDET3xhk6s/Wdx/seosCB9gq8I7WTzrTcPiEhFk CO1gOauI/crWmw+JmOy1fLZ8UkuLY00aGgYxM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=axWoiTMQWNH7OqlTbQfnMq5weRSMm+G/5PIj+zlatJdIwuFaT/9VrtAp6ffdlIirYE 5agzdr1t7MchH+inF24zZpy+zGHXYm2a87r4PaTnh1h+rQB09m96phe1ZwueWgdoO54W z6ucw02ADUmKt/NfsKsN5KsY/YrJkL01RzSOk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000601c9f8f2$d5adefd0$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000001c9f8ef$2e021390$020313ac@PIPO> <000601c9f8f2$d5adefd0$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:37:03 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Antwerp loopfest - first mp3's available for download From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:37:05 +0000 (UTC) my food! thanks! 2009/6/29, Jeff Duke : > They sound most excellent Sjaak! thanks > > Jeff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sjaak" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 3:24 PM > Subject: Antwerp loopfest - first mp3's available for download > > > Hi, > Just to let you know I've uploaded the first 5 mp3's of the festival: > http://euroloopfest.com/2009/antwerp/mp3/index.shtml > > Special thanks to Sound Engineer Ronald Mari=EBn for the live mixing and > recording of this festival. Depending on the act, the mixed exists of 2-6 > tracks + a stereo audience mix to add a little ambience from the public a= nd > the theathre. Enjoy :) > > PS We are still working on the video's, so stay tuned. > --- > Sjaak > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > > > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 00:02:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76BC13BE7E; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:02:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1246320153; bh=90Hn5wLkli3+bgm4Yf6y5e7d9RbdsecxYrU1IvnDsSg=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=Kth8z0LhTNz/pQ5C8hYzyN8LzIwEAYRoiD1rE/lwtGHS0hHI/cXDsAKY9JR76T51m ul+6aamf3Y+pV/CpsbCBsBxsqqlrJeGxLiJZ0WfGdFQfBXqQIhqN0O6sBygTdb/Bs9 XvyH1P8tJWXuVn/TiNjIXySNrjU0Vz8eKd19BPzo= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Antwerp loopfest - first mp3's available for download Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:01:27 +0200 Message-ID: <000201c9f915$ead55a10$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acn48tvKA5hyv/m7Qu2IRyo6RqdrjQAANcUg In-Reply-To: <000601c9f8f2$d5adefd0$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:02:34 +0000 (UTC) > From: Jeff Duke > They sound most excellent Sjaak! Thanks Thanks. Btw: if your hear a strange drone at the end of my set, it took = a while before I realised that that was a hanging midi note instead of a = loop. I had to stop it with the midi panic button because forgot to setup a = midi controller for the master volume...oeps. Luis told me that my Motu also = had a master volume knob but I had totally forgotten about that. Stupid! But = you know, when playing live, there has to be something going wrong isn't it? = ;)=20 ---=20 Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20 http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 00:03:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5A813BE7E; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:03:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5269 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:03:17 UTC User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:35:25 -0400 Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY (+) From: David Kasminsky To: CC: David Kasminsky Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <004401c9f8ba$516ccc60$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:03:17 +0000 (UTC) Hi, New on the web site / forums (and let me know if I should be responding on the sight ( I will ccc myself) I use a Atomic Reactor Amplifier (tube slave 18 watt 1x12, bought when yo= u could still get them online , I got mine at Sam Ash (with a Podxt template +dock included) I bought a additional dock + template for a Vox Tone Lab (desk top modeler) well worth it, time saver and the Vov Tone lab is a pain to change out of the dock (at least for me) *re Roger Linn Adrenallin III (Mine was a version II but did the dual chip update that also included a face plate to match up with the new positions) It added compression and reverb, more amp models + (and improved sound) Most recent purchases have been a Electro-Harmonix Stereo Memory Man with Hazari (love it) and it has a looper capabilty,and a Boss SL-20 Slicer which can bee used as a looper but can not save the loops (puzzling) but the sounds and features wow. And combined definitely other wordly and in line prior to the Atomic Reacto= r (with wither Podxt, Vox Tone Lab (and I have the universal template that allows floor based effect units and or units with out a docking station/ or template for to be used through the effects loop. (ie: Adrennalin I have looked in to the M13 as well as the JM4, Digitech Jam Man, Akai Headrush, the 3 Boss RC usin loopers and the EH 2880 looper, Robert Keeley Makes a looper (several models but the site info was vague) I was impressed at first with the JM4 bit not any more I think the M13 gives you a lot for the $ and the EH 2880 as well But I am fortunate to have the gear I have I am saving for a new Mac (A Imac 24" ) so that=B9s my plan now If I were to buy a M13 or EH 2880 my funds would take a hit I did EH products as they are so unusual and when linked up You get some really crazy stuff I have wondered why Moog and its Mooger fogger pedal line has not come up with a looper ? Peace and ? Should I be posting my reply on the Loopers delight site I am thinking so please advise, Thanks! David On 6/29/09 9:05 AM, "Jeff Duke" wrote: > maybe an adrenalinn III and an M 13 would replace my whole setup...hmmm. = I > sure can't move it around now. sigh.. >=20 > Jeff >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "L.Angulo" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:11 AM > Subject: RE: MY NEW TOY >=20 >=20 >=20 > you might also consider the adrenalinn III stomp it has killer > tremolos,filters midi timebased fx and amp sims! > Luis >=20 > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 >=20 > --- mark@grubmah.com schrieb am So, 28.6.2009: >=20 >> Von: mark@grubmah.com >> Betreff: RE: MY NEW TOY >> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Datum: Sonntag, 28. Juni 2009, 8:58 >> The >> Tech21 character series pedals seem pretty good. I got a >> Blonde and a Liverpool last week. I haven't had as much >> time to play with them as I would like, but they ought to >> sit nicely in the effects loop of an M13. (That pairing was >> Bill's suggestion a while back.) >> The M13 seems like the natural evolution of the >> Line6 stompbox modelers. It makes it easy to play with >> combinations of effects just as the individual modelers did >> and more or less recreates the pedal board effect. The >> effects are interesting but not deeply interesting. The >> Vortex has more interesting effects, but it's a pain to >> program, a pain to switch effects on (relatively speaking), >> and frequently noisy. For example, Line6's tremolos are >> nice but they aren't the Shimmer effect from the Vortex. >> Having tempo sync for the effects is nice, but I don't >> think the M13 will sync to MIDI clock (feh, since the device >> does have MIDI). The looper improves on the DL4 but I think >> it's mono and there isn't the option of having it >> generate tempo information for the effects. >> What would be really cool (not going to happen) >> would be for Line6 to take essentially this same form factor >> and build a multi-looper with it possibly with a couple of >> post-loop effects available as well. An M13, a "Loop >> 13", and a couple of Tech21 pedals could make for a >> powerful and portable rig. >> Mark >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 13:08:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B94103BE82; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1246367325; l=830; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=lGq2LSTOl8EZSkfEwrKZKK6V2UE=; b=vrCKkrzv3/L4P3G2eSJDfd3NWBKCHVmFUiTL7zGFVrSUcvAeEsDhiZp3+YswX35rFVC D2jxYLCgBh/24DPYcB9R9KqYAIroqM4TyLBos6WXjkQ4W/T5yhFIxOAUVAPbWnqrl984v SQKUXQBOrEpaLduh0LGph/UQ2zze/CTy3pk= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvmUV478ZiA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <012401c9f984$59b197a0$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: "Christo Jota" To: "Loopers-Delight" References: <000701c9f818$de5ab580$d5852245@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: Virtual sound and Vision Festival Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:08:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Great idea! (Although I personally don´t have a webcam.) I think it´s a good opportunity to see - and listen to - some of you guys playing. Hope this will inspire me... Have a good day! Christo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Duke" To: Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 7:50 PM Subject: Virtual sound and Vision Festival > Just a note to announce the launching of a Myspace page for the proposed > Virtual Sound and Vision Festival. > http://www.myspace.com/vsvfestival > > More details will be announced, this is an idea thats time has come! > > Best, > > Jeff > > > > http://jeffduke.org/ > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace > http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 14:01:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E550F3BE78; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:01:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 219172313/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.180.4/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.180.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SMTP-AUTH: X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuoBAD+3SUpPTrQE/2dsb2JhbAAIzjiEDwWJHA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,316,1243810800"; d="scan'208";a="219172313" Message-ID: <4A4A1DFB.7080401@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:15:23 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY References: <073da18d0c2f142ae5c49380c76a0aac@charter.net> <4A487167.2020305@tiscali.co.uk> <001f01c9f8b1$52d06a20$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <001f01c9f8b1$52d06a20$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:01:25 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Duke wrote: >> Rather than put two amp sims after the fx, surely it would be neater >> to put one amp sim between guitar and fx. > > What would you recommend in a stereo amp sim Andy? > > Jeff > Oh, I'm probably the worst person to ask about amp sims ;-) Ask Bill Walker. I only really started playing electric guitar when I started looping, and while I played bass through a nice valve setup for years I eventually found that it just wouldn't reproduce the sort of playing I put into it. (i.e. I used to sometimes get quite a lot going at once, but wasn't willing to reduce the low frequency content of the sound.) Hence I now use JBL Eons for everything, and don't possess a decent amp sim. Currently I'm experimenting with a Moogerfooger Lo-pass to mellow out the fuzzy tones from my ADA MP1 valve pre. However, the raw fuzz/overdrive sounds I use sound ok to me, and it seems also to the audience. Only knowledgeable guitarists have sometimes to worried that I have a flat battery somewhere ;-) Generally, I reckon that for a looping device, a clean full range sound is preferable so that the layers can remain distinct in the mix. Hence I would always put an amp sim before the looper, rather than after. Then it would be possible to build up a mix using different amp tones. My guess was that Ted wanted to "ampify" his pa speakers by putting a stereo amp sim (two SansAmps) just in front of them. It's a different approach...and I don't doubt he'd make it work. I'd say 'hope that helps', only as I didn't answer the question...... :-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 14:56:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CF983BE75; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246373793; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=6KG8UsvbpdTg7cUDFMTODBB7MHI=; b=J/Z0+lAZHsspACEgC63eLeL9KTYxYt1YBN8JCFDtN2lv4XFAXeocBpT+niGvtCUB k8PoCB/19ZFwE40NutFqNreI8kAyqZLWiACsbENjsOh1hp+9S4zZUPCyEpel4oCt; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ajXfr6ZWAAAA:8 a=WnzYjt4fAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=50Cz1CyOAAAA:8 a=MZwQBe6CAAAA:8 a=zImPrG2YAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=c9eTbBAgAAAA:8 a=PMF4g2laAAAA:8 a=B8CpycrvAAAA:8 a=8U_8BYAIAAAA:20 a=X8lw9rmGAAAA:8 a=FcAFIstCAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=sDjNdW5rq6zf62GOzKwA:9 a=CDJzmGvmxqV9D9TWvUIA:7 a=89Voq6quQxN4nM3LiMmPWcobBqIA:4 a=NV0LgFqsyRYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002f01c9f992$f7bd0070$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <073da18d0c2f142ae5c49380c76a0aac@charter.net> <4A487167.2020305@tiscali.co.uk> <001f01c9f8b1$52d06a20$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A4A1DFB.7080401@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:56:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <4lPmrB.A.uWG.ieiSKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:56:34 +0000 (UTC) thanks Andy, but you did answer it really. It's funny but i recently compiled alot of my tunes for release on Bandcamp. I realized that the best (meaning my favorite) sounds were all direct into the board recordings. i have used whatever amp/speaker modelers I had in whatever fx box I was using at the time. All the newer stuff was done while wearing headphones in a quiet apartment. I arrange it so that my chain is distortion/fuzz into amp modelers (currently Digitech RP 250 and or Korg AX 3000G) into modfx/delay/reverb into loopers into sometimes more mangle fx into mixer. Not the best way but there ya go. i stay stereo from the outputs of the multi fx boxes. i really want a proper mixer so that i can feed more of everything into everything else sort of :) All that said i still believe that a good real amp cranked up sounds better. I just can't do that anymore in real life. I guess it come down to good tone being subjective. I am always looking for "the" sound. hmmm, maybe this? http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/DBS/ And your right about Bill Walker! He has the "tone"! First cup 'o coffee wearing off, gotta go get more! best, Jeff Ad astra per alia porci - Steinbeck http://jeffduke.org/ http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents http://www.justin.tv/loopslab http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke http://virb.com/jeffduke http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:15 AM Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY > Jeff Duke wrote: >>> Rather than put two amp sims after the fx, surely it would be neater to >>> put one amp sim between guitar and fx. >> >> What would you recommend in a stereo amp sim Andy? >> >> Jeff >> > > Oh, I'm probably the worst person to ask about amp sims ;-) > Ask Bill Walker. > > I only really started playing electric guitar when I started looping, > and while I played bass through a nice valve setup for years I eventually > found that it just wouldn't reproduce the sort of playing I put into it. > (i.e. I used to sometimes get quite a lot going at once, but wasn't > willing to reduce the low frequency content of the sound.) > > Hence I now use JBL Eons for everything, and don't possess a decent amp > sim. > > Currently I'm experimenting with a Moogerfooger Lo-pass to mellow > out the fuzzy tones from my ADA MP1 valve pre. > > However, the raw fuzz/overdrive sounds I use sound ok to me, and it seems > also to the audience. Only knowledgeable guitarists have sometimes > to worried that I have a flat battery somewhere ;-) > > Generally, I reckon that for a looping device, a clean full range sound is > preferable > so that the layers can remain distinct in the mix. > > Hence I would always put an amp sim before the looper, rather than after. > Then it would be possible to build up a mix using different amp tones. > > My guess was that Ted wanted to "ampify" his pa speakers by putting a > stereo > amp sim (two SansAmps) just in front of them. > It's a different approach...and I don't doubt he'd make it work. > > I'd say 'hope that helps', only as I didn't > answer the question...... :-) > > andy > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 15:15:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA87D3BE77; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <134212.37726.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Impossible Music review Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:15:48 +0200 Message-ID: <004601c9f995$a81c7390$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <134212.37726.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Acn5hD2ninCI2KLTSfujLIkXErwk3QAD6XMQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:15:54 +0000 (UTC) > Michal i think a lot of us would be also interested in the > making proccess of this very interesting and delightful CD > feel free to tell us! thanks Luis ... well I don't want to go into too much detail because it is OT ... no music loops involved, although ... when I think of it, the process of iterating through a mathematical formula is a loop !!! it really is. I never thought of it this way. Anyway the formula involved here are a certain kind of attractor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attractor) In the software that I wrote in the early nineties, the attractors are drawn graphically ... you begin by drawing an x,y point on the screen, then you put these x,y values into a formula which computes a new x,y pair (or screen position). You draw that new point and go through the formula again ... thousands of times, each time drawing one pixel. The result is a graphical structure that often looks beautiful. My software creates shapes such as this: http://www.michaelpeters.de/hopgallery/images/miraplankton.jpg Of course while drawing the images, you can create midi signals simply by mapping the x,y position to pitch, and the color to velocity. Impossible Music was created by adding midi output to the graphical program, and plugging a digital piano into these mathematical structures. I added some midi filters, pitch rules, etc. The rest was lots of experimentation. -Michael www.hyperfunction.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 15:50:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D1E13BE7E; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:50:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:50:31 UTC X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: .Laa0eAVM1lUNXYF0xpZdQhSj2yd0oQcQEkz6CzewF.x08nyxoWl8XSZIgyMcsvcPnkjKGcZSKNhOfkS3Qy0m3ZoWdBDspMAM_H2FTyZuefb1kUkoJe9RuAA796Cz08_u_oIC8TjSNXe.HfEBBW.nLHo49nxlyT3rTRw1M4YUS8z5anpdiLuhMyi2M61wdDH59SxvpAvODyu.yn3bVXRKzfDG4kHNEjniaZ0rG2IurQTkA0l7vehvlD3yqIblBz6KBSRuEforx3cUzw1TIYh6s42VHpwqRXohY6Kj0xVj6x_JZFmJmNaARUdE2W3U.2nS9gy9.t5wt_R.raYlJWJLNER1kjLOuA7g88- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <000901c9f999$90b1e560$0301a8c0@A> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <134212.37726.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <004601c9f995$a81c7390$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: Impossible Music review Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:43:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:50:31 +0000 (UTC) The shapes are very beautiful. Very "natural" looking for computer generated image. Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:15 PM Subject: RE: Impossible Music review >> Michal i think a lot of us would be also interested in the >> making proccess of this very interesting and delightful CD >> feel free to tell us! > > thanks Luis ... well I don't want to go into too much detail because it is > OT ... no music loops involved, although ... when I think of it, the > process > of iterating through a mathematical formula is a loop !!! it really is. I > never thought of it this way. > > Anyway the formula involved here are a certain kind of attractor > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attractor) > > In the software that I wrote in the early nineties, the attractors are > drawn > graphically ... you begin by drawing an x,y point on the screen, then you > put these x,y values into a formula which computes a new x,y pair (or > screen > position). You draw that new point and go through the formula again ... > thousands of times, each time drawing one pixel. The result is a graphical > structure that often looks beautiful. My software creates shapes such as > this: > http://www.michaelpeters.de/hopgallery/images/miraplankton.jpg > > Of course while drawing the images, you can create midi signals simply by > mapping the x,y position to pitch, and the color to velocity. Impossible > Music was created by adding midi output to the graphical program, and > plugging a digital piano into these mathematical structures. I added some > midi filters, pitch rules, etc. The rest was lots of experimentation. > > -Michael > www.hyperfunction.org > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.0/2210 - Release Date: 06/30/09 06:10:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 16:05:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1F063BE7F; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=C5Hh3p+85w2E1wjRYqFRq1V4J8WDwuwTVHZO7BvRuDc=; b=Hre9Hx2RFaOPC7mVCyBgl3BKsXukyiHStRPAzGtTBH7GmaqwwV4kTyTU83B6eBJyts wvmP+gJNxwjBO7BZY7fCS54G2/IE7tuy7ft6ikv3bSGw9ftjZG4vMYQ0ZiyNOJKY4T07 D9aV3XttQU6WML2IkGWpekSZ6AShO9zjj453Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wd8G2TXBqhnBmyXDqoxjAQsl6zbTCcGKQylRqGsGMu8IeFCqLbgw6jjUCdP/rF3nRR VI8YwQPc6zOZhLx99yXaa5zs+2EB4zpM91Eb844PLuclBL0oO7jMMxZUUrzjPvrAfTCl iEvuWZKYhjEw+m0EgNHtO3OnEsp7wl5a75WKk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000901c9f999$90b1e560$0301a8c0@A> References: <134212.37726.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <004601c9f995$a81c7390$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <000901c9f999$90b1e560$0301a8c0@A> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:04:58 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Impossible Music review From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Here's a strange attractor app for anybody who's interested. It's code I found while digging around looking for some math/art apps. http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/StrangeAttractor.exe Click in the window to generate a new random pattern. The longer it runs the more gets filled in. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" > To: "Loopers Delight" > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:15 PM > Subject: RE: Impossible Music review > > >>> Michal i think a lot of us would be also interested in the >>> making proccess of this very interesting and delightful CD >>> feel free to tell us! >> >> thanks Luis ... well I don't want to go into too much detail because it = is >> OT ... no music loops involved, although ... when I think of it, the >> process >> of iterating through a mathematical formula is a loop !!! =A0it really i= s. I >> never thought of it this way. >> >> Anyway the formula involved here are a certain kind of attractor >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attractor) >> >> In the software that I wrote in the early nineties, the attractors are >> drawn >> graphically ... you begin by drawing an x,y point on the screen, then yo= u >> put these x,y values into a formula which computes a new x,y pair (or >> screen >> position). You draw that new point and go through the formula again ... >> thousands of times, each time drawing one pixel. The result is a graphic= al >> structure that often looks beautiful. My software creates shapes such as >> this: >> http://www.michaelpeters.de/hopgallery/images/miraplankton.jpg >> >> Of course while drawing the images, you can create midi signals simply b= y >> mapping the x,y position to pitch, and the color to velocity. Impossible >> Music was created by adding midi output to the graphical program, and >> plugging a digital piano into these mathematical structures. I added som= e >> midi filters, pitch rules, etc. The rest was lots of experimentation. >> >> -Michael >> www.hyperfunction.org >> >> >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.0/2210 - Release Date: 06/30/09 > 06:10:00 > > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 16:26:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F2F03BE82; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:26:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1246379170; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=vOoMVaMdAbqE9Mm/9buUm/OQ5kk=; b=PbyVpmdGtY2YZzwK3wLeRCt4Hcb5H7cq9EqQsuxpMz5Ux96GR3Ldh69s9HiDE0m4 M4LTmAxWVrNLcsy2+3sZYSIeeJpH3kFb4B7u3y3Z5id/d+il4F33KIzYdqLZ9Kw0; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=-Z7HAEizAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=gycxc4XgAAAA:8 a=8pif782wAAAA:8 a=8xESwdUgAAAA:8 a=CjrqtIWLAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=r5iOJ8DNXOA7Vbo6FvYA:9 a=YRiQawRVwO6YYqe3GVoA:7 a=gLBOtS0JsSKYWz0s7mANxdhD7qoA:4 a=3mgEzPXou00A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=0GXzayXv4hcA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001c01c9f99f$85067900$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <134212.37726.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <004601c9f995$a81c7390$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <000901c9f999$90b1e560$0301a8c0@A> Subject: Re: Impossible Music review Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:26:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:26:11 +0000 (UTC) I found this: http://math.bu.edu/DYSYS/applets/chaos-game.html J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony K" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:04 PM Subject: Re: Impossible Music review Here's a strange attractor app for anybody who's interested. It's code I found while digging around looking for some math/art apps. http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/StrangeAttractor.exe Click in the window to generate a new random pattern. The longer it runs the more gets filled in. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" > To: "Loopers Delight" > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:15 PM > Subject: RE: Impossible Music review > > >>> Michal i think a lot of us would be also interested in the >>> making proccess of this very interesting and delightful CD >>> feel free to tell us! >> >> thanks Luis ... well I don't want to go into too much detail because it >> is >> OT ... no music loops involved, although ... when I think of it, the >> process >> of iterating through a mathematical formula is a loop !!! it really is. I >> never thought of it this way. >> >> Anyway the formula involved here are a certain kind of attractor >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attractor) >> >> In the software that I wrote in the early nineties, the attractors are >> drawn >> graphically ... you begin by drawing an x,y point on the screen, then you >> put these x,y values into a formula which computes a new x,y pair (or >> screen >> position). You draw that new point and go through the formula again ... >> thousands of times, each time drawing one pixel. The result is a >> graphical >> structure that often looks beautiful. My software creates shapes such as >> this: >> http://www.michaelpeters.de/hopgallery/images/miraplankton.jpg >> >> Of course while drawing the images, you can create midi signals simply by >> mapping the x,y position to pitch, and the color to velocity. Impossible >> Music was created by adding midi output to the graphical program, and >> plugging a digital piano into these mathematical structures. I added some >> midi filters, pitch rules, etc. The rest was lots of experimentation. >> >> -Michael >> www.hyperfunction.org >> >> >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.0/2210 - Release Date: 06/30/09 > 06:10:00 > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 17:21:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 726A03BE77; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <134212.37726.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <004601c9f995$a81c7390$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <000901c9f999$90b1e560$0301a8c0@A> <001c01c9f99f$85067900$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: ot.....music show alert Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:21:21 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.138 In-Reply-To: <001c01c9f99f$85067900$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CBC7BE52348FB6_1120_28B7_WEBMAIL-DZ27.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43661-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CBC7BE5223DF5C-1120-1419@WEBMAIL-DZ27.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:21:41 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CBC7BE52348FB6_1120_28B7_WEBMAIL-DZ27.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" looks to be an interesting show tonite on PBS.....NOVA.....this will be the second show in a week on brain imaging and music.....they seem to think that music is good for us and children.....music is getting a lot of good press lately.....maybe they will bring it back to schools in the near future.....:).....m ----------MB_8CBC7BE52348FB6_1120_28B7_WEBMAIL-DZ27.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
looks to be an interesting show tonite on PBS.....NOVA.....this will be the second show in a week on brain imaging and music.....they seem to think that music is good for us and children.....music is getting a lot of good press lately.....maybe they will bring it back to schools in the near future.....:).....m

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----------MB_8CBC7BE52348FB6_1120_28B7_WEBMAIL-DZ27.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 17:34:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B05E33BE7C; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JGandproI9IMbYEPHQ8ZzfzZnefCak0TGbFvIfmA0OE=; b=YMzRi0jOzp3PUNTy+ONDtExTbuToyolnlDs8+Di6zt6OixpKCd1XlI+g9Wl/DgH32K G3Xli4hSfZgULWHWpMsnRh7RelkvETE10dOCwM1Q/UA5z1WASVuU9gDAqYJOupXK6odG Rs76VwThx1nyZBoM45JCXJn3FGe9vD5McYnU8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=oAIJUlWLhMf/nkVnTC7GLoj9ZS8j4e3ORzOH+DOj4oNEBgKG/d+ApnRn8eNAl6ba1n ZXUpiK6veh6CbtC7P/FU3qGMbdmR/0ME3VHnf1UrJmrmSwHBEcdg5vtwMjLYufgXTEcz bCgTMHwC9ySG6+DZ6seZJaGIeMfE9f7pXOYK4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:34:48 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906301034h349021c0x5e67b82f05e51ea5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual sound and Vision Festival From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Christo said: "Great idea! (Although I personally don=B4t have a webcam.)" Seriously, with prices for webcams starting around ten bucks, that can hardly be an excuse. Get one! Rainer (inventor of that odd virtual festival thing idea ;) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 17:40:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D094A3BE79; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:40:23 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8CBC7BE5223DF5C-1120-1419@WEBMAIL-DZ27.sysops.aol.com> References: <134212.37726.qm@web24307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <004601c9f995$a81c7390$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <000901c9f999$90b1e560$0301a8c0@A> <001c01c9f99f$85067900$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> <8CBC7BE5223DF5C-1120-1419@WEBMAIL-DZ27.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:27:06 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: ot.....music show alert Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-965739275==_ma============" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:40:23 +0000 (UTC) --============_-965739275==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 1:21 PM -0400 6/30/09, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: >looks to be an interesting show tonite on PBS.....NOVA.....this will >be the second show in a week on brain imaging and music.....they >seem to think that music is good for us and children.....music is >getting a lot of good press lately.....maybe they will bring it back >to schools in the near future.....:).....m This program features Oliver Sacks, based on his wonderful book MUSICOPHILIA. Don't miss it! And read the book, too - it's amazing. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans --============_-965739275==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: ot.....music show alert
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looks to be an interesting show tonite on PBS.....NOVA.....this will be the second show in a week on brain imaging and music.....they seem to think that music is good for us and children.....music is getting a lot of good press lately.....maybe they will bring it back to schools in the near future.....:).....m

This program features Oliver Sacks, based on his wonderful book MUSICOPHILIA. Don't miss it! And read the book, too - it's amazing.

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--============_-965739275==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 18:37:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB7383BE7F; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iIkm6zFcqOX53Z1QtrWGxUyeJc3mk0XMtvvVzcE+X8o=; b=EP5STIu9882U4r+9yohXpV3eY64Bjs2YZ2KNI25+HB/jr72VJEIyHCJKf4+sp4O3O6 7EeNb87cSZxkRZ0xQF7quaNjHhg5fZyJIFm79C8HO9U3jwoTfPEXI9bNKceSMIjA5dEA IDGwuJJQsAg8jP4NNcp3XQ0QGHOgAuxAtF0j8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xu50O3DhHm0BBwH6dzpmYEIKJiHf3zAgQv/mvsModSYabrz6rs39A5zDmQk1qXYDj8 9AwzysqTMgTHlhmqNlitpeWv2y5jiMqbWSrRbrEqRBw23tnpU2nCZ+FLX/WzR6XHMIHL G508WFGsZ9dVN9WwbmPmTXdMPOeCVC5Wk/MXc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <002f01c9f992$f7bd0070$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> References: <073da18d0c2f142ae5c49380c76a0aac@charter.net> <4A487167.2020305@tiscali.co.uk> <001f01c9f8b1$52d06a20$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> <4A4A1DFB.7080401@tiscali.co.uk> <002f01c9f992$f7bd0070$60862245@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:29:31 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Word on the street is that if you want *the best* then the Axe-FX is the route to go: http://www.fractalaudio.com/products-fa-axefx.html I have no experience with them but the demos sound great: (even with youtube compression) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUbu8A_wmmNI&fmt=3D18 The cost seems prohibitive to me, but if you've got the cash and want the best maybe it's worth it. I found my Vox Tonelab/VF-1 combo to be good enough for me, and Amplitube to be even better. One thing that sold me on the software route is that if I want to do something that's not possible in a hardware set up without a bunch of re-routing I can do it effortlessly and then call it up as a preset. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > thanks Andy, > > but you did answer it really. It's funny but i recently compiled alot of = my > tunes =A0for release on Bandcamp. I realized that the best (meaning my > favorite) sounds were all direct into the board recordings. i have used > whatever amp/speaker modelers I had in whatever fx box I was using at the > time. All the newer stuff was done while wearing headphones in a quiet > apartment. > I arrange it so that my chain is distortion/fuzz into amp modelers > (currently Digitech RP 250 =A0and or Korg AX 3000G) into modfx/delay/reve= rb > into loopers into sometimes more mangle fx into mixer. Not the best way b= ut > there ya go. i stay stereo from the outputs of the multi fx boxes. i real= ly > want a proper mixer so that i can feed more of everything into everything > else sort of :) > All that said i still believe that a good real amp cranked up sounds bett= er. > I just can't do that anymore in real life. I guess it come down to good t= one > being subjective. I am always looking for "the" sound. hmmm, maybe this? > http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/DBS/ > > And your right about Bill Walker! He has the "tone"! > > First cup 'o coffee wearing off, gotta go get more! > > best, > > Jeff > > > Ad astra per alia porci - Steinbeck > > > http://jeffduke.org/ > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace > http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents > http://www.justin.tv/loopslab > http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke > http://www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke > http://virb.com/jeffduke > http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ > http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 > http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:15 AM > Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY > > >> Jeff Duke wrote: >>>> >>>> Rather than put two amp sims after the fx, surely it would be neater t= o >>>> put one amp sim between guitar and fx. >>> >>> What would you recommend in a stereo amp sim Andy? >>> >>> Jeff >>> >> >> Oh, I'm probably the worst person to ask about amp sims ;-) >> Ask Bill Walker. >> >> I only really started playing electric guitar when I started looping, >> and while I played bass through a nice valve setup for years I eventuall= y >> found that it just wouldn't reproduce the sort of playing I put into it. >> (i.e. I used to sometimes get quite a lot going at once, but wasn't >> willing to reduce the low frequency content of the sound.) >> >> Hence I now use JBL Eons for everything, and don't possess a decent amp >> sim. >> >> Currently I'm experimenting with a Moogerfooger Lo-pass to mellow >> out the fuzzy tones from my ADA MP1 valve pre. >> >> However, the raw fuzz/overdrive sounds I use sound ok to me, and it seem= s >> also to the audience. Only knowledgeable guitarists have sometimes >> to worried that I have a flat battery somewhere ;-) >> >> Generally, I reckon that for a looping device, a clean full range sound = is >> preferable >> so that the layers can remain distinct in the mix. >> >> Hence I would always put an amp sim before the looper, rather than after= . >> Then it would be possible to build up a mix using different amp tones. >> >> My guess was that Ted wanted to "ampify" his pa speakers by putting a >> stereo >> amp sim (two SansAmps) just in front of them. >> It's a different approach...and I don't doubt he'd make it work. >> >> I'd say 'hope that helps', only as I didn't >> answer the question...... =A0 =A0 :-) >> >> andy >> >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 20:35:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D8E53BE7E; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246394120; bh=EmPsbFzBOg3X45k0ccEWDjtgcgB46wHp5t79VZGkUKI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=C6688dQkkbrSslbyXbQf0HWY6lDEpEEpx3ddhdo/u4slNtAImGZrQ5u13BYKqxQZTqkHl+HjJPGFcAFYq75dAQz+N2OfJ3VGmIHo1NHj7+ibHgoldvn+R5LxiFU9FjGaTgvb5JE4p/7yCuPcK/QHSyp2BCofiIYkJbuGfnGrB1Y= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pMgYPWGW18NfafvcxwLYdmeNKRiZAvNAt4LvbozypMLEiFGS95K0uImu5usuEad6MmfKangl+8/FHZRQ59u+WwN/GRI/FEY0kpB8H4BceVlT5VRNSpGFZ911M4Yt7AGPm7bI+2Y2+/PrmX+Wu2BZqwIPiYMGFJeFeKMS3SB7qDo=; Message-ID: <142673.46270.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:35:19 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:35:21 +0000 (UTC) seems to have a basic but nice looper as well with record,play,play once ,o= verdub and reverse not bad but ouch the price hurts... www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Mark Sottilaro schrieb am Di, 30.6.2009: > Von: Mark Sottilaro > Betreff: Re: MY NEW TOY > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Dienstag, 30. Juni 2009, 11:29 > Word on the street is that if you > want *the best* then the Axe-FX is > the route to go: >=20 > http://www.fractalaudio.com/products-fa-axefx.html >=20 > I have no experience with them but the demos sound great: > (even with > youtube compression) >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUbu8A_wmmNI&fmt=3D18 >=20 > The cost seems prohibitive to me, but if you've got the > cash and want > the best maybe it's worth it. I found my Vox Tonelab/VF-1 > combo to be > good enough for me, and Amplitube to be even better. One > thing that > sold me on the software route is that if I want to do > something that's > not possible in a hardware set up without a bunch of > re-routing I can > do it effortlessly and then call it up as a preset. >=20 > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Jeff Duke > wrote: > > thanks Andy, > > > > but you did answer it really. It's funny but i > recently compiled alot of my > > tunes =A0for release on Bandcamp. I realized that the > best (meaning my > > favorite) sounds were all direct into the board > recordings. i have used > > whatever amp/speaker modelers I had in whatever fx box > I was using at the > > time. All the newer stuff was done while wearing > headphones in a quiet > > apartment. > > I arrange it so that my chain is distortion/fuzz into > amp modelers > > (currently Digitech RP 250 =A0and or Korg AX 3000G) > into modfx/delay/reverb > > into loopers into sometimes more mangle fx into mixer. > Not the best way but > > there ya go. i stay stereo from the outputs of the > multi fx boxes. i really > > want a proper mixer so that i can feed more of > everything into everything > > else sort of :) > > All that said i still believe that a good real amp > cranked up sounds better. > > I just can't do that anymore in real life. I guess it > come down to good tone > > being subjective. I am always looking for "the" sound. > hmmm, maybe this? > > http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/DBS/ > > > > And your right about Bill Walker! He has the "tone"! > > > > First cup 'o coffee wearing off, gotta go get more! > > > > best, > > > > Jeff > > > > > > Ad astra per alia porci - Steinbeck > > > > > > http://jeffduke.org/ > > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace > > http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ > > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents > > http://www.justin.tv/loopslab > > http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke > > http://www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke > > http://virb.com/jeffduke > > http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ > > http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 > > http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" > > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:15 AM > > Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY > > > > > >> Jeff Duke wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Rather than put two amp sims after the fx, > surely it would be neater to > >>>> put one amp sim between guitar and fx. > >>> > >>> What would you recommend in a stereo amp sim > Andy? > >>> > >>> Jeff > >>> > >> > >> Oh, I'm probably the worst person to ask about amp > sims ;-) > >> Ask Bill Walker. > >> > >> I only really started playing electric guitar when > I started looping, > >> and while I played bass through a nice valve setup > for years I eventually > >> found that it just wouldn't reproduce the sort of > playing I put into it. > >> (i.e. I used to sometimes get quite a lot going at > once, but wasn't > >> willing to reduce the low frequency content of the > sound.) > >> > >> Hence I now use JBL Eons for everything, and don't > possess a decent amp > >> sim. > >> > >> Currently I'm experimenting with a Moogerfooger > Lo-pass to mellow > >> out the fuzzy tones from my ADA MP1 valve pre. > >> > >> However, the raw fuzz/overdrive sounds I use sound > ok to me, and it seems > >> also to the audience. Only knowledgeable > guitarists have sometimes > >> to worried that I have a flat battery somewhere > ;-) > >> > >> Generally, I reckon that for a looping device, a > clean full range sound is > >> preferable > >> so that the layers can remain distinct in the > mix. > >> > >> Hence I would always put an amp sim before the > looper, rather than after. > >> Then it would be possible to build up a mix using > different amp tones. > >> > >> My guess was that Ted wanted to "ampify" his pa > speakers by putting a > >> stereo > >> amp sim (two SansAmps) just in front of them. > >> It's a different approach...and I don't doubt he'd > make it work. > >> > >> I'd say 'hope that helps', only as I didn't > >> answer the question...... =A0 =A0 :-) > >> > >> andy > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 20:41:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 521DD3BE79; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:41:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246394475; bh=gTjrpuAi7IAQN6TYGM9em+lOiTj3alvhIIkh/HkXluk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MDJ+SSQ/MNw2L4TVP2VKTz+u5NSZ2yB66bJ/fDK8O5nQEJxvZhr5YrKhH5np4tec4ksq9XbVFGc7/12s7GtJbhQleUff/yO+yMAk4QAoxs1CZa79zECiEnsgXHAKm+UtBg0mG2O63wS8KYbk8gIxMwiRK4ju6fh5LCPgxq8MCNI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FvW3FbfNYUN+AAk8NUyq/dVxHSxs2my2/D/C7Swooxj6H8B8leZ5CKdQ59+7caODgiTO9bTJnLB7tVTZTVSm6C0zsU3Er96eUUkKNjxZBxApvzpoGVIyLi0PjNTxgfy4VZK0sajjSliDQivhrRtM+dFaenSwWToo4kCshmT0OuM=; Message-ID: <177840.2937.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ERR:encrypt:no_context X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:41:14 +0000 (GMT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: AW: Antwerp loopfest - first mp3's available for download To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4udM_.A.uUC.shnSKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:41:16 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak thank you kindly for all this hard work you guys have done,been worki= ng a lot lately and i havent listened to the performances yet but i will as= soon as i get a chance. Please send my regards to Ronald who did an outstanding job and again thank= you specially for putting such a first class succesful festival! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Sjaak schrieb am Mo, 29.6.2009: > Von: Sjaak > Betreff: Antwerp loopfest - first mp3's available for download > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Montag, 29. Juni 2009, 12:24 > Hi, > Just to let you know I've uploaded the first 5 mp3's of the > festival: > http://euroloopfest.com/2009/antwerp/mp3/index.shtml >=20 > Special thanks to Sound Engineer Ronald Mari=EBn for the > live mixing and > recording of this festival. Depending on the act, the mixed > exists of 2-6 > tracks + a stereo audience mix to add a little ambience > from the public and > the theathre. Enjoy :) >=20 > PS We are still working on the video's, so stay tuned. > ---=20 > Sjaak > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20 > http://euroloopfest.com/ >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 21:24:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E90733BE77; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=scarlet.be; s=scarlet; t=1246397049; bh=BaTms6fGxzlKnMvzz1AopV6ds6bFsqUl36iCJS5ilE0=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To; b=A79JqFR605R1/7M6MkJbL7H6WQVYEt8UbZvNtzw/6I+DkVVHGlKMjYOPyyl9DP7X0 1tUnIOpGK2n8B4v8uqDYmLmBz+kokG0xXmJ8F+L2RqE7tC2qOQA83PR43kkBMe5xHM Ud7DfMReKesoDjp5cXx4hQWCKaNpo8JyN2PfVVmw= From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Antwerp loopfest - first mp3's available for download Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:23:56 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c9f9c9$14243630$020313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acn5wx3Cgds6STf9SMq2Zh9Rfzh/FgABTgGw In-Reply-To: <177840.2937.qm@web24306.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:24:10 +0000 (UTC) > From: L.Angulo > Sjaak thank you kindly for all this hard work you guys have > done,been working a lot lately and i havent listened to the > performances yet but i will as soon as i get a chance. Please > send my regards to Ronald who did an outstanding job and > again thank you specially for putting such a first class > succesful festival! Luis Thanks Luis, I've forwarded your message to Ronald. If I could make money with making music and promoting it, I would start tomorrow ;) But I guess I keep combining it with my current job, the best of both worlds. Btw: I've added Fabio's mp3 to the website, see http://euroloopfest.com/2009/antwerp/mp3/index.shtml --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 21:45:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E83103BE7E; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:45:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xJxSuxRBqlPwgxEuOTnsrAHDCHNC5S183akhXsu5fpg=; b=mddrZ+8rIQXr7+5Hw+Hs8HvoXJua1jKewmLxHbasNw0ZadIcV7q22aZsMOX3G553Cj 4PJvBL0bkEr3HkS+5ek6jymPFMn1tqRDzLttbnSoqWlN9tfZ9Vk6p3mPc2IUT8tHbXo/ KWpO1yLJu1wq9Rt9dZyRqCfFMDGMQ0yTgB5WE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZaWGFTzg0z4rojaPbuVjNIOdvDTHK11f/CGnp2u06OyPnP4qBe7JEDnuVLctYq4LIL qVxrpitZ38VZP6J/d6zO54sr1Cz6roHDDHyLS8Phpu7rRAzVoFWixGZtB4vMwfvkCR51 FgQWt6QeU0+LjriMd8oup0/LXkpypvfScigU4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <142673.46270.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <142673.46270.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:45:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:45:20 +0000 (UTC) No kidding! However when I think of the fact that my Vox/VF-1 was about half that price (and the VF-1 was used when I got it) and I guess if you consider the IK Multimedia STOMP I/O is $1000 (+$229 for Fender) and you still need a computer to run it, it sounds a bit less crazy. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:35 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > > seems to have a basic but nice looper as well with record,play,play once = ,overdub and reverse not bad but ouch the price hurts... > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- Mark Sottilaro schrieb am Di, 30.6.2009: > >> Von: Mark Sottilaro >> Betreff: Re: MY NEW TOY >> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Datum: Dienstag, 30. Juni 2009, 11:29 >> Word on the street is that if you >> want *the best* then the Axe-FX is >> the route to go: >> >> http://www.fractalaudio.com/products-fa-axefx.html >> >> I have no experience with them but the demos sound great: >> (even with >> youtube compression) >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUbu8A_wmmNI&fmt=3D18 >> >> The cost seems prohibitive to me, but if you've got the >> cash and want >> the best maybe it's worth it. I found my Vox Tonelab/VF-1 >> combo to be >> good enough for me, and Amplitube to be even better. One >> thing that >> sold me on the software route is that if I want to do >> something that's >> not possible in a hardware set up without a bunch of >> re-routing I can >> do it effortlessly and then call it up as a preset. >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Jeff Duke >> wrote: >> > thanks Andy, >> > >> > but you did answer it really. It's funny but i >> recently compiled alot of my >> > tunes =A0for release on Bandcamp. I realized that the >> best (meaning my >> > favorite) sounds were all direct into the board >> recordings. i have used >> > whatever amp/speaker modelers I had in whatever fx box >> I was using at the >> > time. All the newer stuff was done while wearing >> headphones in a quiet >> > apartment. >> > I arrange it so that my chain is distortion/fuzz into >> amp modelers >> > (currently Digitech RP 250 =A0and or Korg AX 3000G) >> into modfx/delay/reverb >> > into loopers into sometimes more mangle fx into mixer. >> Not the best way but >> > there ya go. i stay stereo from the outputs of the >> multi fx boxes. i really >> > want a proper mixer so that i can feed more of >> everything into everything >> > else sort of :) >> > All that said i still believe that a good real amp >> cranked up sounds better. >> > I just can't do that anymore in real life. I guess it >> come down to good tone >> > being subjective. I am always looking for "the" sound. >> hmmm, maybe this? >> > http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/DBS/ >> > >> > And your right about Bill Walker! He has the "tone"! >> > >> > First cup 'o coffee wearing off, gotta go get more! >> > >> > best, >> > >> > Jeff >> > >> > >> > Ad astra per alia porci - Steinbeck >> > >> > >> > http://jeffduke.org/ >> > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace >> > http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ >> > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents >> > http://www.justin.tv/loopslab >> > http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke >> > http://www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke >> > http://virb.com/jeffduke >> > http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ >> > http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 >> > http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" >> >> > To: >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:15 AM >> > Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY >> > >> > >> >> Jeff Duke wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Rather than put two amp sims after the fx, >> surely it would be neater to >> >>>> put one amp sim between guitar and fx. >> >>> >> >>> What would you recommend in a stereo amp sim >> Andy? >> >>> >> >>> Jeff >> >>> >> >> >> >> Oh, I'm probably the worst person to ask about amp >> sims ;-) >> >> Ask Bill Walker. >> >> >> >> I only really started playing electric guitar when >> I started looping, >> >> and while I played bass through a nice valve setup >> for years I eventually >> >> found that it just wouldn't reproduce the sort of >> playing I put into it. >> >> (i.e. I used to sometimes get quite a lot going at >> once, but wasn't >> >> willing to reduce the low frequency content of the >> sound.) >> >> >> >> Hence I now use JBL Eons for everything, and don't >> possess a decent amp >> >> sim. >> >> >> >> Currently I'm experimenting with a Moogerfooger >> Lo-pass to mellow >> >> out the fuzzy tones from my ADA MP1 valve pre. >> >> >> >> However, the raw fuzz/overdrive sounds I use sound >> ok to me, and it seems >> >> also to the audience. Only knowledgeable >> guitarists have sometimes >> >> to worried that I have a flat battery somewhere >> ;-) >> >> >> >> Generally, I reckon that for a looping device, a >> clean full range sound is >> >> preferable >> >> so that the layers can remain distinct in the >> mix. >> >> >> >> Hence I would always put an amp sim before the >> looper, rather than after. >> >> Then it would be possible to build up a mix using >> different amp tones. >> >> >> >> My guess was that Ted wanted to "ampify" his pa >> speakers by putting a >> >> stereo >> >> amp sim (two SansAmps) just in front of them. >> >> It's a different approach...and I don't doubt he'd >> make it work. >> >> >> >> I'd say 'hope that helps', only as I didn't >> >> answer the question...... =A0 =A0 :-) >> >> >> >> andy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 21:52:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21CCB3BE7C; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_60e75583-8028-402f-82aa-34ce1704cca5_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: MY NEW TOY Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:52:08 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <142673.46270.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2009 21:52:08.0026 (UTC) FILETIME=[0391ABA0:01C9F9CD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:52:09 +0000 (UTC) --_60e75583-8028-402f-82aa-34ce1704cca5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And the axafx is supposed to sound REALLY good=2C several tube amp fanatics= rave about it. I would much prefer an axefx based rig over a computer base= d rig. Since i LOVE tube anps and find playing great amp being a pleasure m= uch like enjoying a great single malt (or wine if you prefer) computer base= d is a non starter for. One reason could be that i find it hard for most la= ptiops I have used at work to even cope with riunning a few instances of IE= and some office applications without geting hickup... Again MY main reason for sticking with tube amps is that they are more to m= e than amps=2C they are a part of the instrument=2C electric guitar. =20 Anders www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl =20 =20 > Date: Tue=2C 30 Jun 2009 14:45:20 -0700 > Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY > From: zerocrossing@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > No kidding! However when I think of the fact that my Vox/VF-1 was > about half that price (and the VF-1 was used when I got it) and I > guess if you consider the IK Multimedia STOMP I/O is $1000 (+$229 for > Fender) and you still need a computer to run it=2C it sounds a bit less > crazy. >=20 > On Tue=2C Jun 30=2C 2009 at 1:35 PM=2C L.Angulo wrot= e: > > > > seems to have a basic but nice looper as well with record=2Cplay=2Cplay= once =2Coverdub and reverse not bad but ouch the price hurts... > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > --- Mark Sottilaro schrieb am Di=2C 30.6.2009: > > > >> Von: Mark Sottilaro > >> Betreff: Re: MY NEW TOY > >> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> Datum: Dienstag=2C 30. Juni 2009=2C 11:29 > >> Word on the street is that if you > >> want *the best* then the Axe-FX is > >> the route to go: > >> > >> http://www.fractalaudio.com/products-fa-axefx.html > >> > >> I have no experience with them but the demos sound great: > >> (even with > >> youtube compression) > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUbu8A_wmmNI&fmt=3D18 > >> > >> The cost seems prohibitive to me=2C but if you've got the > >> cash and want > >> the best maybe it's worth it. I found my Vox Tonelab/VF-1 > >> combo to be > >> good enough for me=2C and Amplitube to be even better. One > >> thing that > >> sold me on the software route is that if I want to do > >> something that's > >> not possible in a hardware set up without a bunch of > >> re-routing I can > >> do it effortlessly and then call it up as a preset. > >> > >> On Tue=2C Jun 30=2C 2009 at 7:56 AM=2C Jeff Duke > >> wrote: > >> > thanks Andy=2C > >> > > >> > but you did answer it really. It's funny but i > >> recently compiled alot of my > >> > tunes for release on Bandcamp. I realized that the > >> best (meaning my > >> > favorite) sounds were all direct into the board > >> recordings. i have used > >> > whatever amp/speaker modelers I had in whatever fx box > >> I was using at the > >> > time. All the newer stuff was done while wearing > >> headphones in a quiet > >> > apartment. > >> > I arrange it so that my chain is distortion/fuzz into > >> amp modelers > >> > (currently Digitech RP 250 and or Korg AX 3000G) > >> into modfx/delay/reverb > >> > into loopers into sometimes more mangle fx into mixer. > >> Not the best way but > >> > there ya go. i stay stereo from the outputs of the > >> multi fx boxes. i really > >> > want a proper mixer so that i can feed more of > >> everything into everything > >> > else sort of :) > >> > All that said i still believe that a good real amp > >> cranked up sounds better. > >> > I just can't do that anymore in real life. I guess it > >> come down to good tone > >> > being subjective. I am always looking for "the" sound. > >> hmmm=2C maybe this? > >> > http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/DBS/ > >> > > >> > And your right about Bill Walker! He has the "tone"! > >> > > >> > First cup 'o coffee wearing off=2C gotta go get more! > >> > > >> > best=2C > >> > > >> > Jeff > >> > > >> > > >> > Ad astra per alia porci - Steinbeck > >> > > >> > > >> > http://jeffduke.org/ > >> > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace > >> > http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ > >> > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents > >> > http://www.justin.tv/loopslab > >> > http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke > >> > http://www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke > >> > http://virb.com/jeffduke > >> > http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ > >> > http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 > >> > http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" > >> > >> > To: > >> > Sent: Tuesday=2C June 30=2C 2009 10:15 AM > >> > Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY > >> > > >> > > >> >> Jeff Duke wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Rather than put two amp sims after the fx=2C > >> surely it would be neater to > >> >>>> put one amp sim between guitar and fx. > >> >>> > >> >>> What would you recommend in a stereo amp sim > >> Andy? > >> >>> > >> >>> Jeff > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> Oh=2C I'm probably the worst person to ask about amp > >> sims =3B-) > >> >> Ask Bill Walker. > >> >> > >> >> I only really started playing electric guitar when > >> I started looping=2C > >> >> and while I played bass through a nice valve setup > >> for years I eventually > >> >> found that it just wouldn't reproduce the sort of > >> playing I put into it. > >> >> (i.e. I used to sometimes get quite a lot going at > >> once=2C but wasn't > >> >> willing to reduce the low frequency content of the > >> sound.) > >> >> > >> >> Hence I now use JBL Eons for everything=2C and don't > >> possess a decent amp > >> >> sim. > >> >> > >> >> Currently I'm experimenting with a Moogerfooger > >> Lo-pass to mellow > >> >> out the fuzzy tones from my ADA MP1 valve pre. > >> >> > >> >> However=2C the raw fuzz/overdrive sounds I use sound > >> ok to me=2C and it seems > >> >> also to the audience. Only knowledgeable > >> guitarists have sometimes > >> >> to worried that I have a flat battery somewhere > >> =3B-) > >> >> > >> >> Generally=2C I reckon that for a looping device=2C a > >> clean full range sound is > >> >> preferable > >> >> so that the layers can remain distinct in the > >> mix. > >> >> > >> >> Hence I would always put an amp sim before the > >> looper=2C rather than after. > >> >> Then it would be possible to build up a mix using > >> different amp tones. > >> >> > >> >> My guess was that Ted wanted to "ampify" his pa > >> speakers by putting a > >> >> stereo > >> >> amp sim (two SansAmps) just in front of them. > >> >> It's a different approach...and I don't doubt he'd > >> make it work. > >> >> > >> >> I'd say 'hope that helps'=2C only as I didn't > >> >> answer the question...... :-) > >> >> > >> >> andy > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >=20 --_60e75583-8028-402f-82aa-34ce1704cca5_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And the axafx is supposed to sound REALLY good=2C several tube amp fanatics= rave about it. I would much prefer an axefx based =3Brig over a comput= er based rig. Since i LOVE tube anps and find playing great amp being a ple= asure much like enjoying a great single malt (or wine if you prefer) comput= er based is a non starter for. One reason could be that i find it hard for = most =3Blaptiops I have used at work to even cope with riunning a few i= nstances of IE and some office applications without geting hickup...
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>=3B No kidding! However when I think of the fact that my Vox/VF-= 1 was
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>=3B >=3B --- Mark Sottilaro &= lt=3Bzerocrossing@gmail.com>=3B schrieb am Di=2C 30.6.2009:
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>=3B >=3B>=3B Betreff: Re: MY NEW TOY
>=3B >=3B>= =3B An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B >=3B>=3B Datum: D= ienstag=2C 30. Juni 2009=2C 11:29
>=3B >=3B>=3B Word on the street= is that if you
>=3B >=3B>=3B want *the best* then the Axe-FX is>=3B >=3B>=3B the route to go:
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >= =3B>=3B http://www.fractalaudio.com/products-fa-axefx.html
>=3B >= =3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B I have no experience with them but the dem= os sound great:
>=3B >=3B>=3B (even with
>=3B >=3B>=3B yo= utube compression)
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B http://www= .youtube.com/watch?v=3DUbu8A_wmmNI&=3Bfmt=3D18
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B The cost seems prohibitive to me=2C but if you've got = the
>=3B >=3B>=3B cash and want
>=3B >=3B>=3B the best ma= ybe it's worth it. I found my Vox Tonelab/VF-1
>=3B >=3B>=3B combo= to be
>=3B >=3B>=3B good enough for me=2C and Amplitube to be eve= n better. One
>=3B >=3B>=3B thing that
>=3B >=3B>=3B sold= me on the software route is that if I want to do
>=3B >=3B>=3B so= mething that's
>=3B >=3B>=3B not possible in a hardware set up wit= hout a bunch of
>=3B >=3B>=3B re-routing I can
>=3B >=3B>= =3B do it effortlessly and then call it up as a preset.
>=3B >=3B>= =3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B On Tue=2C Jun 30=2C 2009 at 7:56 AM=2C Jeff Duke= <=3Bjeff_d@embarqmail.com>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B wrote:
>=3B &= gt=3B>=3B >=3B thanks Andy=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B &= gt=3B>=3B >=3B but you did answer it really. It's funny but i
>=3B= >=3B>=3B recently compiled alot of my
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B tu= nes =3Bfor release on Bandcamp. I realized that the
>=3B >=3B&g= t=3B best (meaning my
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B favorite) sounds were a= ll direct into the board
>=3B >=3B>=3B recordings. i have used
= >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B whatever amp/speaker modelers I had in whatever = fx box
>=3B >=3B>=3B I was using at the
>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B time. All the newer stuff was done while wearing
>=3B >=3B>=3B= headphones in a quiet
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B apartment.
>=3B &= gt=3B>=3B >=3B I arrange it so that my chain is distortion/fuzz into>=3B >=3B>=3B amp modelers
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B (currently = Digitech RP 250 =3Band or Korg AX 3000G)
>=3B >=3B>=3B into m= odfx/delay/reverb
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B into loopers into sometimes= more mangle fx into mixer.
>=3B >=3B>=3B Not the best way but
= >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B there ya go. i stay stereo from the outputs of t= he
>=3B >=3B>=3B multi fx boxes. i really
>=3B >=3B>=3B &= gt=3B want a proper mixer so that i can feed more of
>=3B >=3B>=3B= everything into everything
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B else sort of :)>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B All that said i still believe that a good real= amp
>=3B >=3B>=3B cranked up sounds better.
>=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B I just can't do that anymore in real life. I guess it
>=3B = >=3B>=3B come down to good tone
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B being sub= jective. I am always looking for "the" sound.
>=3B >=3B>=3B hmmm= =2C maybe this?
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B http://www.beavisaudio.com/Pr= ojects/DBS/
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B And= your right about Bill Walker! He has the "tone"!
>=3B >=3B>=3B &g= t=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B First cup 'o coffee wearing off=2C gotta= go get more!
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B b= est=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B Jeff
= >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B&g= t=3B >=3B Ad astra per alia porci - Steinbeck
>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B http://jeff= duke.org/
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphase= space
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/
>=3B= >=3B>=3B >=3B http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-= presents
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B http://www.justin.tv/loopslab
>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke
>=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B http://www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke
>=3B >=3B>=3B &= gt=3B http://virb.com/jeffduke
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B http://themine= isthemind.blogspot.com/
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B http://www.youtube.co= m/user/sticky899
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B http://www.sugarat.org/tecba= b/
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B &g= t=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler"
>=3B >=3B>=3B= <=3Bakbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B To: <= =3BLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B = Sent: Tuesday=2C June 30=2C 2009 10:15 AM
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B Sub= ject: Re: MY NEW TOY
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B &= gt=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B Jeff Duke wrote:
>=3B >=3B= >=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B&g= t=3B Rather than put two amp sims after the fx=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B su= rely it would be neater to
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B>=3B = put one amp sim between guitar and fx.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B&= gt=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B What would you recommend in= a stereo amp sim
>=3B >=3B>=3B Andy?
>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B Jeff
>=3B &g= t=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B= >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B Oh=2C I'm probably the worst person to ask about= amp
>=3B >=3B>=3B sims =3B-)
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B = Ask Bill Walker.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B= >=3B>=3B I only really started playing electric guitar when
>=3B = >=3B>=3B I started looping=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B and w= hile I played bass through a nice valve setup
>=3B >=3B>=3B for ye= ars I eventually
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B found that it just wou= ldn't reproduce the sort of
>=3B >=3B>=3B playing I put into it.>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B (i.e. I used to sometimes get quite a lo= t going at
>=3B >=3B>=3B once=2C but wasn't
>=3B >=3B>=3B= >=3B>=3B willing to reduce the low frequency content of the
>=3B = >=3B>=3B sound.)
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B&g= t=3B >=3B>=3B Hence I now use JBL Eons for everything=2C and don't
&= gt=3B >=3B>=3B possess a decent amp
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B= sim.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>= =3B Currently I'm experimenting with a Moogerfooger
>=3B >=3B>=3B = Lo-pass to mellow
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B out the fuzzy tones f= rom my ADA MP1 valve pre.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >= =3B>=3B >=3B>=3B However=2C the raw fuzz/overdrive sounds I use sound=
>=3B >=3B>=3B ok to me=2C and it seems
>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B>=3B also to the audience. Only knowledgeable
>=3B >=3B>=3B g= uitarists have sometimes
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B to worried tha= t I have a flat battery somewhere
>=3B >=3B>=3B =3B-)
>=3B &g= t=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B Generally=2C I = reckon that for a looping device=2C a
>=3B >=3B>=3B clean full ran= ge sound is
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B preferable
>=3B >=3B= >=3B >=3B>=3B so that the layers can remain distinct in the
>=3B= >=3B>=3B mix.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B>=3B Hence I would always put an amp sim before the
>=3B &= gt=3B>=3B looper=2C rather than after.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>= =3B Then it would be possible to build up a mix using
>=3B >=3B>= =3B different amp tones.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >= =3B>=3B >=3B>=3B My guess was that Ted wanted to "ampify" his pa
&= gt=3B >=3B>=3B speakers by putting a
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>= =3B stereo
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B amp sim (two SansAmps) just = in front of them.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B It's a different appr= oach...and I don't doubt he'd
>=3B >=3B>=3B make it work.
>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B I'd say '= hope that helps'=2C only as I didn't
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B an= swer the question...... =3B =3B :-)
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B= >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B andy
>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B= >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
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= --_60e75583-8028-402f-82aa-34ce1704cca5_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 21:54:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84EF63BE78; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cnDSnO6il0mkYD09CXrYnbDE9ZBhKhE6NmBAL45xn/o=; b=IIl2Vu0+ZfyUzrQeEC3GlzA1aa4DUR74lgHoPwznvP+EbtP9TB6e+l/IJ+FuzyMsy/ O7Pj1uPoN04IDyBojRfgy/+WHr4xwYBR+mrnzHM4A14TbukcduPR9YVgL2kNvzNuQG4W CUfxeejwc/+f5Fn5Z9P9l9PsKEhCVdrXrnWWs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=KejjRWG2yanPzFXXmmYU0fzkg+NP79AZeFDasgIhygt1YQY0PpX3LAqOwMon/p9kut e5/jaiIraYY+mpY6RVRDcXrOjhVDxjp0Xsvppn6aGMpTr9FjREoIwWGlVhZbM2Bn3FWl Ut4MZj08d1uWR3/+YxiHcvotfR3orhDIU9DJk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:54:45 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906301454y1f84036ame210312c44f88a00@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Short live video clip posted (Live Looping Festival Rome 2009) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Got the first video clip from my Rome gig today http://bit.ly/JeKZH. Big thanks to Milco who filmed and sent me the video! Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 22:00:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAAC33BE7E; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8H5HlMMrkGZelftQG0ei3xDsBlX7vN7+RwCUf8ozwrk=; b=mHXhM5j5ppxNSicVdtDsOcx7PwXvGQzTEeQ9rnfmBSVtyakf2bQTUNFUCELQHU0fog D/FniksofKbyn2Dk5xTlrA93lQypIgy0UtJupPVVNvfDEi1JvVQUop7UrZBgew6Z/qDM Uuk8C4Z3NmHRPRiyL1edDY5dD0h2S/PkV5Ohg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=l4DDJnhtl4+TCwQVeeY3RDrkZP1Mm/adQQXrF8X2mp9/oRlIuH+0ehuuMAV+qUmdfv PQ6VJBkwcaEd+vPqQW/a2Tmnu3wQt5vjhhEewSoYBTys1TqKmzRdWxj5ynccynpzCnZ7 WC0gFAfxGXEKte/MSB2O8Y/4wY05gWN44dltU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:00:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: ubuntu based rig From: Raul Bonell To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:00:29 +0000 (UTC) has anybody had success building a looping rig or modular fx setup (ala. bidule, energyXT,etc) in ubuntu studio or other linux based OS (not counting OSX)? any opensource applications related available? tell us your experiences, thanks. -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 22:07:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F9AD3BE87; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=AQNZj2R7zElMZInj/Vgbc6Mx5/WMsE0REIrYqAv6HtQ=; b=SlEjszqGxdV7dEOn3sepcMr/zIp1shCCbq8dlK3Z9J5QGNQMNsF0qSsBUSSkn+FjwS RIUEFI58C9uozzLZX1/oiWeqc0bbr5fSVHS7bn6Usf/a7K8ykic4Ie6A5rrItfKYp0qb l1B7NEQ5TwDfxIWJmepvke29smycC33ewIBw4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eNh4pxdd6wTkJRpw3m1tycmoqUnNgFGdqCOHjkq8jdIc34y6uaQHo5dGd9ROfw+Go6 NOwTKd2ULL4L8AGw+T28HtGv0WYon2b6jQT1c3eUSNlhz2eLiVcq71fNwaMcsEFPEUQt vhVFaJQyOz0AiY2qv9W8No5jlwgexZAfZ22EY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <142673.46270.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:07:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:07:46 +0000 (UTC) The Axe-FX is a computer. No difference really except it's got built in converters. I was even under the impression that Fractal was busy porting their software to run on Windows. Your experience with laptops is probably a bit dated as I'm able to get quite a lot of effects (including Amplitube) running inside of Live with nary a hitch at pretty low latencies in a 4 year old laptop. I do even better with my desktop. The trick is adjusting a few things in Windows that are designed to help a general computer user, but hinder real time audio production. Once you fix that it's great. Sorry, I've seen about a hundred threads where guys claim to be able to hear the superior sound quality of dedicated hardware and then proceed to not be able to tell the difference in blind tests. It's all just stuff that should be a means to an end so what ever works for you. I know for myself, I played with NI's Guitar Rig 3 and thought, "Oh, I guess computers can't do amp simulation well" and I dismissed it as an option. It wasn't until I tried Amplitube SVX out on my bass that I was compelled to give it another look see. I'd be super curious to put the Axe-FX against the IK stuff and see what's what. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > And the axafx is supposed to sound REALLY good, several tube amp fanatics > rave about it. I would much prefer an axefx based=A0rig over a computer b= ased > rig. Since i LOVE tube anps and find playing great amp being a pleasure m= uch > like enjoying a great single malt (or wine if you prefer) computer based = is > a non starter for. One reason could be that i find it hard for most=A0lap= tiops > I have used at work to even cope with riunning a few instances of IE and > some office applications without geting hickup... > Again MY main reason for sticking with tube amps is that they=A0are more = to me > than amps, they are a part of the instrument, electric guitar. > > Anders > www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl > >> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:45:20 -0700 >> Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY >> From: zerocrossing@gmail.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> No kidding! However when I think of the fact that my Vox/VF-1 was >> about half that price (and the VF-1 was used when I got it) and I >> guess if you consider the IK Multimedia STOMP I/O is $1000 (+$229 for >> Fender) and you still need a computer to run it, it sounds a bit less >> crazy. >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:35 PM, L.Angulo wrote: >> > >> > seems to have a basic but nice looper as well with record,play,play on= ce >> > ,overdub and reverse not bad but ouch the price hurts... >> > >> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >> > >> > >> > --- Mark Sottilaro schrieb am Di, 30.6.2009: >> > >> >> Von: Mark Sottilaro >> >> Betreff: Re: MY NEW TOY >> >> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Datum: Dienstag, 30. Juni 2009, 11:29 >> >> Word on the street is that if you >> >> want *the best* then the Axe-FX is >> >> the route to go: >> >> >> >> http://www.fractalaudio.com/products-fa-axefx.html >> >> >> >> I have no experience with them but the demos sound great: >> >> (even with >> >> youtube compression) >> >> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUbu8A_wmmNI&fmt=3D18 >> >> >> >> The cost seems prohibitive to me, but if you've got the >> >> cash and want >> >> the best maybe it's worth it. I found my Vox Tonelab/VF-1 >> >> combo to be >> >> good enough for me, and Amplitube to be even better. One >> >> thing that >> >> sold me on the software route is that if I want to do >> >> something that's >> >> not possible in a hardware set up without a bunch of >> >> re-routing I can >> >> do it effortlessly and then call it up as a preset. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Jeff Duke >> >> wrote: >> >> > thanks Andy, >> >> > >> >> > but you did answer it really. It's funny but i >> >> recently compiled alot of my >> >> > tunes =A0for release on Bandcamp. I realized that the >> >> best (meaning my >> >> > favorite) sounds were all direct into the board >> >> recordings. i have used >> >> > whatever amp/speaker modelers I had in whatever fx box >> >> I was using at the >> >> > time. All the newer stuff was done while wearing >> >> headphones in a quiet >> >> > apartment. >> >> > I arrange it so that my chain is distortion/fuzz into >> >> amp modelers >> >> > (currently Digitech RP 250 =A0and or Korg AX 3000G) >> >> into modfx/delay/reverb >> >> > into loopers into sometimes more mangle fx into mixer. >> >> Not the best way but >> >> > there ya go. i stay stereo from the outputs of the >> >> multi fx boxes. i really >> >> > want a proper mixer so that i can feed more of >> >> everything into everything >> >> > else sort of :) >> >> > All that said i still believe that a good real amp >> >> cranked up sounds better. >> >> > I just can't do that anymore in real life. I guess it >> >> come down to good tone >> >> > being subjective. I am always looking for "the" sound. >> >> hmmm, maybe this? >> >> > http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/DBS/ >> >> > >> >> > And your right about Bill Walker! He has the "tone"! >> >> > >> >> > First cup 'o coffee wearing off, gotta go get more! >> >> > >> >> > best, >> >> > >> >> > Jeff >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Ad astra per alia porci - Steinbeck >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > http://jeffduke.org/ >> >> > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace >> >> > http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ >> >> > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents >> >> > http://www.justin.tv/loopslab >> >> > http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke >> >> > http://www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke >> >> > http://virb.com/jeffduke >> >> > http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 >> >> > http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" >> >> >> >> > To: >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:15 AM >> >> > Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Jeff Duke wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Rather than put two amp sims after the fx, >> >> surely it would be neater to >> >> >>>> put one amp sim between guitar and fx. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> What would you recommend in a stereo amp sim >> >> Andy? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Jeff >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Oh, I'm probably the worst person to ask about amp >> >> sims ;-) >> >> >> Ask Bill Walker. >> >> >> >> >> >> I only really started playing electric guitar when >> >> I started looping, >> >> >> and while I played bass through a nice valve setup >> >> for years I eventually >> >> >> found that it just wouldn't reproduce the sort of >> >> playing I put into it. >> >> >> (i.e. I used to sometimes get quite a lot going at >> >> once, but wasn't >> >> >> willing to reduce the low frequency content of the >> >> sound.) >> >> >> >> >> >> Hence I now use JBL Eons for everything, and don't >> >> possess a decent amp >> >> >> sim. >> >> >> >> >> >> Currently I'm experimenting with a Moogerfooger >> >> Lo-pass to mellow >> >> >> out the fuzzy tones from my ADA MP1 valve pre. >> >> >> >> >> >> However, the raw fuzz/overdrive sounds I use sound >> >> ok to me, and it seems >> >> >> also to the audience. Only knowledgeable >> >> guitarists have sometimes >> >> >> to worried that I have a flat battery somewhere >> >> ;-) >> >> >> >> >> >> Generally, I reckon that for a looping device, a >> >> clean full range sound is >> >> >> preferable >> >> >> so that the layers can remain distinct in the >> >> mix. >> >> >> >> >> >> Hence I would always put an amp sim before the >> >> looper, rather than after. >> >> >> Then it would be possible to build up a mix using >> >> different amp tones. >> >> >> >> >> >> My guess was that Ted wanted to "ampify" his pa >> >> speakers by putting a >> >> >> stereo >> >> >> amp sim (two SansAmps) just in front of them. >> >> >> It's a different approach...and I don't doubt he'd >> >> make it work. >> >> >> >> >> >> I'd say 'hope that helps', only as I didn't >> >> >> answer the question...... =A0 =A0 :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> andy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 22:13:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C43B73BE99; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:13:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=a1Tcc7e6lqYjpHlP/eQ2lL779iCcsPd1fFjul5n8FJE=; b=EkyyvdWfyvXlm/DSLuwvK2uFGLBDPLvny8hTFwXz6tMNbl+Skg43LRXOXNuvBk5vxO Z7g+KqUE+BhbSQfHSnDhFIKqzTKcxvoCFFMhgMOVHFNaNAfK6lyGsHETrlItSj7FcfFN Fe+fpptBZTq5ZfN9ZPDmioqsHb659h8gqTaQI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=FIKPQV9vL8J6a73EsVGRDogGUhdq830bpWQeJs0cSmxmmaDyt8r1EulXL3OojSfq/3 Tcl6Ru4+boV5Z+jXQx4BEdWKJkZ0BiU1Y8wicCzyByxBxO9D1c6yzoiwLNbh57udgZ/z RSHpyMrJcblh1Equc1aIZwBQVkcxrWE1y91Ko= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906301454y1f84036ame210312c44f88a00@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0906301454y1f84036ame210312c44f88a00@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:13:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Short live video clip posted (Live Looping Festival Rome 2009) From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c7b992b56bb046d981e87 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:13:36 +0000 (UTC) --0016364c7b992b56bb046d981e87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit lol! awesome On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Got the first video clip from my Rome gig today http://bit.ly/JeKZH. > Big thanks to Milco who filmed and sent me the video! > > Per > > --0016364c7b992b56bb046d981e87 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lol! awesome

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:5= 4 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Got the first video clip from my Rome gig today http://bit.ly/JeKZH.
Big thanks to Milco who filmed and sent me the video!

Per

--0016364c7b992b56bb046d981e87-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 22:23:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 676743BE82; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 424 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:23:39 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Zhs3/TUw0r/8OQs+mJZv9q3gC19r4UjKnZ4kkcsiImE=; b=UvO5dY7vVXnKh8cCTKCrb8/VHhzcBw1EOBe9/6MPkaQ3boUK58EH5vosGaajJjiwdA xIHDqYadM0Tj5o6llDvO98Yq+2GVT0tjm9ki8jxblJSGrgzb/wkwZ0xEmjY+5jzVf83v eWgMT6M5B9N4IWczd04CMgpD/iDvlyuMBB+m4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ej9IKzgQ2OCbL+8ubGCqdJULfKKX80IRMrswANVdMyeq91D8CY47/Jitph/2fKtDJZ +15x5vYHP509TuWqOMsG7/nt0YqKIvT/sEnoX9D8E1opVYqUcrDTcrY+8B5ebusApuXY cge/HVDGkk5PYQmeV15reYUH/b1HSjH4Wc2qE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:16:34 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ubuntu based rig From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Though I'm more mac based these days I've been running Ubuntu @r mons on a dell latitude I have from work. Next to osx I love it. I've not done any audio work on it but what open source audio editor are you using Raul? I use audacity for osx and have for windows but have not researched it for ubuntu. A while back did yo or someone mention using lilypad notation sw? Guess I'm ot there. J On 6/30/09, Raul Bonell wrote: > has anybody had success building a looping rig or modular fx setup > (ala. bidule, energyXT,etc) > in ubuntu studio or other linux based OS (not counting OSX)? > > any opensource applications related available? > > tell us your experiences, > thanks. > > > -- > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > -- ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 22:26:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3486E3BE84; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:26:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: SUb5O_CswBDpfyUqFjqFvqFWU9Xn0YefOlG9DEhOmHeP_zXkAU4NCNYpZwk- X-YMail-OSG: e_hwZIYVM1kFFu41EOBcK5SVVsl9Af27KIoK2g7lTiVldloKtZ9r5ZvNQayjRs_u2I09UWsCZPnj_Bi3U_3ovuNhAGt8ckJlc6fJ4F_kidnpyFsv5HnfjLLZXxX5RswRudtzFDoqbtuFPowPEvfb32uh872baxKF4Wkx2hjGD.KwjQ4nsxBPV8Rg4w35O7pWtwIYq1TjJv.QgOVHj7v_MO5HIKiGlbdG5.0KFziahC8s7Bwv.Um.omRaCMhy2Rr3vTXna4dmaxefSdSfHyxqGTKxIR_wYmXEx7NwgwxtPTvQZlc_LSPOuOBhy623mE0oWDepVp0hZ_XmhC6NriCJgkEqEqEQJgxZ0B4- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <005e01c9f9d1$d68fd000$0301a8c0@A> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <66f9cc1e0906301454y1f84036ame210312c44f88a00@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Short live video clip posted (Live Looping Festival Rome 2009) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:26:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:26:42 +0000 (UTC) Lovely! Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: "Loopers-Delight" Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:54 PM Subject: Short live video clip posted (Live Looping Festival Rome 2009) > Got the first video clip from my Rome gig today http://bit.ly/JeKZH. > Big thanks to Milco who filmed and sent me the video! > > Per > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.0/2210 - Release Date: 06/30/09 06:10:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 22:29:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 389253BE77; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cKrjOO0s23U8Q7gLBgoZieTq4WZXCBBNvoFT2olnFjc=; b=dm761H/Z3rRnUzwEPnVNBvcP9ZhymbDy3kZ+03pHID9fNA1KJ8FT4YL3L/cRTborQa W0w2GDH4rX1z9Kc6TJZgqOIn/i1GlYidMoA6tUP2mHqp9cBwKySP5aWauZkySal6QPkt B4ptDjD89bQKO5WVXirshO5naTBCvTtyqh9oE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=KUG9+m7KIVomAqsCu1dzARQIwhL5Y/nVCWpCTTvWsUZt4/CLeTITimVSWrQXnJXnjt +I/lVV1CefnCVZ6mQ+B1tYzKs0spXT7zINKmo3nVhcxnFyN6J7Exr2qQUOSRp1Y8X8H2 6faAhYXRuZzh9jf0HEoXbZJNgHN/WXVW0402U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:29:33 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0906301529o374849f5oe4854e5d2174bf5d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: ubuntu based rig From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:29:34 +0000 (UTC) > has anybody had success building a looping rig or modular fx setup (ala. bidule, energyXT,etc) in ubuntu studio or other linux based OS (not counting OSX)? > any opensource applications related available? Didn't try it myself, but a friend of mine uses PD on Ubuntu (not for looping, though...): http://puredata.info/downloads Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 22:30:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC1F83BE93; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rFO1T6jjfv+cAiQcLvTTKWvINM0TzjnMoYBKhI+pv6Y=; b=aPA6vN/2CjKqN+GNGtH2cSF/NoTjXKblfTWWvv7DqwM01aIzPfkd2BovN+7FZd5YY0 SToKcjafCltQNA/9UJyEw+tGlzh8N4UmVNkeedP7jxkv6zzVwONCGW821paTkoq6I+dG hq5pp+O6FH3955vYMbLd1AV/NKu+yhb7Vik8k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GIKG9TUPSiqcJlMwgpa90ohaRPu70LWl55EDYpT0Y77kmKhDeeKbVquMJH1CbPpmRn BWn/tluklVnM8xst0ti5S1rUaVtKx+tEMPlaNAP73rdT2bIkheuEd6e3alffESTG9i8P RGgA6xbRvobdYjCG3Rn7Y22IKcdlryX7p2IBk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:30:36 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0906301530p1ef3a99bi33f8d4bd73788153@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: ubuntu based rig From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6iXFGC.A.DnH.MIpSKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:30:36 +0000 (UTC) I was about to install Linux in 2003 to take advance of SooperLooper. SooperLooper was originally created for Linux, long before the Mac port. However, my CPU died during the Linux installation and I decided to go with OS X since I couldn't afford building a new PC for Linux. Oh well, that wasn't much for help - just another failure story ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > has anybody had success building a looping rig or modular fx setup > (ala. bidule, energyXT,etc) > in ubuntu studio or other linux based OS From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 22:40:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56E983BEA0; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:40:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gKATnthS0mYZb53250jbGQZ0Hm2cVg+BFE8ERZoLmKQ=; b=m+b+h+kd6h7p/yH2rzMdJXIFNeEN3V9pr3gnToYlmqR2PuKAkhrfAOt5RqrPDaGxDR DAo6G0e+mXTQWnW0Z213gzZpXYZRJAHu3Ro0iUNzz17lnIqY/1/oiPYqCazbpaK7VzID vdzmI4nmUQjiUAkwPPFLGniSANBIwfCryZc68= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uM3i6m1JJAoLUeB9UbzXZbYHOzWES+YsDPvuW0b7xGw7ymXUXJM4UUXgAM2m7/s52Z 6Gn6IO18t8XmOw7OIgD2Nc+GnxBzNb5/gvnx5OmVg5GUlU0ph8a1koz9rg/L9GFB4Mhw hkel0aWk7e5B/jl3S2gMRSWbnGFwrnhE3TCBs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60906301516t7e819b8n4398eb0f14d5cf1e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:39:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ubuntu based rig From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:40:01 +0000 (UTC) i read on the net that audacity was not working at all with versions 7, 8 of ubuntu. but i think they solved the issue. i'm doing any audio editing work in wavelab 5 (PC) before i jump to the logic apps i have installed in my imac months ago, but hadn't time to learn yet (waveburner,soundtrack,etc..). here a list of all the opensource audio apps that come with ubuntu studio 9.04. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList 2009/7/1, Jim Goodin : > Though I'm more mac based these days I've been running Ubuntu @r mons > on a dell latitude I have from work. Next to osx I love it. > > I've not done any audio work on it but what open source audio editor > are you using Raul? > > I use audacity for osx and have for windows but have not researched it > for ubuntu. > > A while back did yo or someone mention using lilypad notation sw? > Guess I'm ot there. > > J > > On 6/30/09, Raul Bonell wrote: >> has anybody had success building a looping rig or modular fx setup >> (ala. bidule, energyXT,etc) >> in ubuntu studio or other linux based OS (not counting OSX)? >> >> any opensource applications related available? >> >> tell us your experiences, >> thanks. >> >> >> -- >> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> >> > > > -- > ReUse, an introspective textural aural journey coming soon... > > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 22:43:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6886C3BEC1; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f501ee4a-272b-4938-918c-256a53b4bc0b_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: MY NEW TOY Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:43:14 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <142673.46270.qm@web24305.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2009 22:43:14.0698 (UTC) FILETIME=[2772AEA0:01C9F9D4] Resent-Message-ID: <3VTgCB.A.4I.KUpSKB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:43:22 +0000 (UTC) --_f501ee4a-272b-4938-918c-256a53b4bc0b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm not at all sure i would be able to hear the difference between a record= ed amp and a recorded simulation. But I KNOW i can feel the difference betw= een a modeling amp and a standard tube amp=2C modeling don't FEEL the same = to play. And the amps I have are truly great=2C each one has it's own speci= al niche of feel and sound as I said they are instruments=2C replacing an a= mp with a computer simulation is like replacing a guitar with a sample trig= gered in the laptop=2C in makes similar sound but it is NOT the same instru= ment. I play guitar and amp not guitar and amp sims=2C you just can't get a= amp sim to interact with touch and position of guitar relative to amp.. di= fferent instrument=2C not better or worse. As for laptop=2C right now I'm typing on a newish HP (compaq 8510p) and jus= t runing vista and IE takes up around one GB of memory after a while... and= all since i work all day with computer I don't wont a computer involved in= my music=2C perhaps for recording in the future. But LIVE and playing for = fun=2C nope.. computers are NOT fun - for me =20 > Date: Tue=2C 30 Jun 2009 15:07:42 -0700 > Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY > From: zerocrossing@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > The Axe-FX is a computer. No difference really except it's got built > in converters. I was even under the impression that Fractal was busy > porting their software to run on Windows. >=20 > Your experience with laptops is probably a bit dated as I'm able to > get quite a lot of effects (including Amplitube) running inside of > Live with nary a hitch at pretty low latencies in a 4 year old laptop. > I do even better with my desktop. The trick is adjusting a few things > in Windows that are designed to help a general computer user=2C but > hinder real time audio production. Once you fix that it's great. >=20 > Sorry=2C I've seen about a hundred threads where guys claim to be able > to hear the superior sound quality of dedicated hardware and then > proceed to not be able to tell the difference in blind tests. It's > all just stuff that should be a means to an end so what ever works for > you. I know for myself=2C I played with NI's Guitar Rig 3 and thought=2C > "Oh=2C I guess computers can't do amp simulation well" and I dismissed > it as an option. It wasn't until I tried Amplitube SVX out on my bass > that I was compelled to give it another look see. I'd be super > curious to put the Axe-FX against the IK stuff and see what's what. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Tue=2C Jun 30=2C 2009 at 2:52 PM=2C Anders > Bergdahl wrote: > > And the axafx is supposed to sound REALLY good=2C several tube amp fana= tics > > rave about it. I would much prefer an axefx based rig over a computer b= ased > > rig. Since i LOVE tube anps and find playing great amp being a pleasure= much > > like enjoying a great single malt (or wine if you prefer) computer base= d is > > a non starter for. One reason could be that i find it hard for most lap= tiops > > I have used at work to even cope with riunning a few instances of IE an= d > > some office applications without geting hickup... > > Again MY main reason for sticking with tube amps is that they are more = to me > > than amps=2C they are a part of the instrument=2C electric guitar. > > > > Anders > > www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl > > > >> Date: Tue=2C 30 Jun 2009 14:45:20 -0700 > >> Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY > >> From: zerocrossing@gmail.com > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> > >> No kidding! However when I think of the fact that my Vox/VF-1 was > >> about half that price (and the VF-1 was used when I got it) and I > >> guess if you consider the IK Multimedia STOMP I/O is $1000 (+$229 for > >> Fender) and you still need a computer to run it=2C it sounds a bit les= s > >> crazy. > >> > >> On Tue=2C Jun 30=2C 2009 at 1:35 PM=2C L.Angulo w= rote: > >> > > >> > seems to have a basic but nice looper as well with record=2Cplay=2Cp= lay once > >> > =2Coverdub and reverse not bad but ouch the price hurts... > >> > > >> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > >> > > >> > > >> > --- Mark Sottilaro schrieb am Di=2C 30.6.20= 09: > >> > > >> >> Von: Mark Sottilaro > >> >> Betreff: Re: MY NEW TOY > >> >> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> >> Datum: Dienstag=2C 30. Juni 2009=2C 11:29 > >> >> Word on the street is that if you > >> >> want *the best* then the Axe-FX is > >> >> the route to go: > >> >> > >> >> http://www.fractalaudio.com/products-fa-axefx.html > >> >> > >> >> I have no experience with them but the demos sound great: > >> >> (even with > >> >> youtube compression) > >> >> > >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUbu8A_wmmNI&fmt=3D18 > >> >> > >> >> The cost seems prohibitive to me=2C but if you've got the > >> >> cash and want > >> >> the best maybe it's worth it. I found my Vox Tonelab/VF-1 > >> >> combo to be > >> >> good enough for me=2C and Amplitube to be even better. One > >> >> thing that > >> >> sold me on the software route is that if I want to do > >> >> something that's > >> >> not possible in a hardware set up without a bunch of > >> >> re-routing I can > >> >> do it effortlessly and then call it up as a preset. > >> >> > >> >> On Tue=2C Jun 30=2C 2009 at 7:56 AM=2C Jeff Duke > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > thanks Andy=2C > >> >> > > >> >> > but you did answer it really. It's funny but i > >> >> recently compiled alot of my > >> >> > tunes for release on Bandcamp. I realized that the > >> >> best (meaning my > >> >> > favorite) sounds were all direct into the board > >> >> recordings. i have used > >> >> > whatever amp/speaker modelers I had in whatever fx box > >> >> I was using at the > >> >> > time. All the newer stuff was done while wearing > >> >> headphones in a quiet > >> >> > apartment. > >> >> > I arrange it so that my chain is distortion/fuzz into > >> >> amp modelers > >> >> > (currently Digitech RP 250 and or Korg AX 3000G) > >> >> into modfx/delay/reverb > >> >> > into loopers into sometimes more mangle fx into mixer. > >> >> Not the best way but > >> >> > there ya go. i stay stereo from the outputs of the > >> >> multi fx boxes. i really > >> >> > want a proper mixer so that i can feed more of > >> >> everything into everything > >> >> > else sort of :) > >> >> > All that said i still believe that a good real amp > >> >> cranked up sounds better. > >> >> > I just can't do that anymore in real life. I guess it > >> >> come down to good tone > >> >> > being subjective. I am always looking for "the" sound. > >> >> hmmm=2C maybe this? > >> >> > http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/DBS/ > >> >> > > >> >> > And your right about Bill Walker! He has the "tone"! > >> >> > > >> >> > First cup 'o coffee wearing off=2C gotta go get more! > >> >> > > >> >> > best=2C > >> >> > > >> >> > Jeff > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Ad astra per alia porci - Steinbeck > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > http://jeffduke.org/ > >> >> > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace > >> >> > http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ > >> >> > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents > >> >> > http://www.justin.tv/loopslab > >> >> > http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke > >> >> > http://www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke > >> >> > http://virb.com/jeffduke > >> >> > http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ > >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 > >> >> > http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" > >> >> > >> >> > To: > >> >> > Sent: Tuesday=2C June 30=2C 2009 10:15 AM > >> >> > Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> Jeff Duke wrote: > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Rather than put two amp sims after the fx=2C > >> >> surely it would be neater to > >> >> >>>> put one amp sim between guitar and fx. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> What would you recommend in a stereo amp sim > >> >> Andy? > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Jeff > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Oh=2C I'm probably the worst person to ask about amp > >> >> sims =3B-) > >> >> >> Ask Bill Walker. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I only really started playing electric guitar when > >> >> I started looping=2C > >> >> >> and while I played bass through a nice valve setup > >> >> for years I eventually > >> >> >> found that it just wouldn't reproduce the sort of > >> >> playing I put into it. > >> >> >> (i.e. I used to sometimes get quite a lot going at > >> >> once=2C but wasn't > >> >> >> willing to reduce the low frequency content of the > >> >> sound.) > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Hence I now use JBL Eons for everything=2C and don't > >> >> possess a decent amp > >> >> >> sim. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Currently I'm experimenting with a Moogerfooger > >> >> Lo-pass to mellow > >> >> >> out the fuzzy tones from my ADA MP1 valve pre. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> However=2C the raw fuzz/overdrive sounds I use sound > >> >> ok to me=2C and it seems > >> >> >> also to the audience. Only knowledgeable > >> >> guitarists have sometimes > >> >> >> to worried that I have a flat battery somewhere > >> >> =3B-) > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Generally=2C I reckon that for a looping device=2C a > >> >> clean full range sound is > >> >> >> preferable > >> >> >> so that the layers can remain distinct in the > >> >> mix. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Hence I would always put an amp sim before the > >> >> looper=2C rather than after. > >> >> >> Then it would be possible to build up a mix using > >> >> different amp tones. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> My guess was that Ted wanted to "ampify" his pa > >> >> speakers by putting a > >> >> >> stereo > >> >> >> amp sim (two SansAmps) just in front of them. > >> >> >> It's a different approach...and I don't doubt he'd > >> >> make it work. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I'd say 'hope that helps'=2C only as I didn't > >> >> >> answer the question...... :-) > >> >> >> > >> >> >> andy > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >=20 --_f501ee4a-272b-4938-918c-256a53b4bc0b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm =3Bnot at all sure i would be able to hear the difference =3Bbe= tween a recorded amp and a recorded simulation. But I KNOW i can feel = =3Bthe difference between a modeling amp and a standard tube amp=2C modelin= g don't FEEL the same to play. And the amps =3BI have are truly great= =2C each one has it's own special niche of feel and sound as I said they ar= e instruments=2C replacing an amp with a computer simulation is like replac= ing a guitar with a sample triggered in the laptop=2C in makes similar soun= d but it is NOT the same instrument. I play guitar and amp not guitar and a= mp sims=2C you just can't get a amp sim to interact with touch and position= of guitar relative to amp.. different instrument=2C not better or worse. As for laptop=2C right now I'm typing on a newish HP (compaq 8510p) and jus= t runing vista and IE takes up around one GB of memory after a while... and= all since i work all day with computer I don't wont a computer involved in= my music=2C perhaps for recording in the future. But LIVE and playing for = fun=2C nope.. computers are NOT fun - for me
=3B
>=3B Date: Tue=2C 30 Jun 2009 15:07:42 -0700
>=3B Subjec= t: Re: MY NEW TOY
>=3B From: zerocrossing@gmail.com
>=3B To: Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B The Axe-FX is a comput= er. No difference really except it's got built
>=3B in converters. I w= as even under the impression that Fractal was busy
>=3B porting their = software to run on Windows.
>=3B
>=3B Your experience with lapto= ps is probably a bit dated as I'm able to
>=3B get quite a lot of effe= cts (including Amplitube) running inside of
>=3B Live with nary a hitc= h at pretty low latencies in a 4 year old laptop.
>=3B I do even bette= r with my desktop. The trick is adjusting a few things
>=3B in Windows= that are designed to help a general computer user=2C but
>=3B hinder = real time audio production. Once you fix that it's great.
>=3B
>= =3B Sorry=2C I've seen about a hundred threads where guys claim to be able<= BR>>=3B to hear the superior sound quality of dedicated hardware and then=
>=3B proceed to not be able to tell the difference in blind tests. It= 's
>=3B all just stuff that should be a means to an end so what ever w= orks for
>=3B you. I know for myself=2C I played with NI's Guitar Rig = 3 and thought=2C
>=3B "Oh=2C I guess computers can't do amp simulation= well" and I dismissed
>=3B it as an option. It wasn't until I tried A= mplitube SVX out on my bass
>=3B that I was compelled to give it anoth= er look see. I'd be super
>=3B curious to put the Axe-FX against the I= K stuff and see what's what.
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B On = Tue=2C Jun 30=2C 2009 at 2:52 PM=2C Anders
>=3B Bergdahl<=3Banders_e= _bergdahl@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B And the axafx is suppos= ed to sound REALLY good=2C several tube amp fanatics
>=3B >=3B rave = about it. I would much prefer an axefx based =3Brig over a computer bas= ed
>=3B >=3B rig. Since i LOVE tube anps and find playing great amp = being a pleasure much
>=3B >=3B like enjoying a great single malt (o= r wine if you prefer) computer based is
>=3B >=3B a non starter for.= One reason could be that i find it hard for most =3Blaptiops
>=3B= >=3B I have used at work to even cope with riunning a few instances of I= E and
>=3B >=3B some office applications without geting hickup...>=3B >=3B Again MY main reason for sticking with tube amps is that the= y =3Bare more to me
>=3B >=3B than amps=2C they are a part of th= e instrument=2C electric guitar.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Anders>=3B >=3B www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl
>=3B >=3B
>= =3B >=3B>=3B Date: Tue=2C 30 Jun 2009 14:45:20 -0700
>=3B >=3B&g= t=3B Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY
>=3B >=3B>=3B From: zerocrossing@gmai= l.com
>=3B >=3B>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>= =3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B No kidding! However when I think of= the fact that my Vox/VF-1 was
>=3B >=3B>=3B about half that price= (and the VF-1 was used when I got it) and I
>=3B >=3B>=3B guess i= f you consider the IK Multimedia STOMP I/O is $1000 (+$229 for
>=3B &g= t=3B>=3B Fender) and you still need a computer to run it=2C it sounds a b= it less
>=3B >=3B>=3B crazy.
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >= =3B>=3B On Tue=2C Jun 30=2C 2009 at 1:35 PM=2C L.Angulo<=3Blabaloops@ya= hoo.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B &= gt=3B seems to have a basic but nice looper as well with record=2Cplay=2Cpl= ay once
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B =2Coverdub and reverse not bad but ou= ch the price hurts...
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B = >=3B www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B --- Mark Sottilaro &l= t=3Bzerocrossing@gmail.com>=3B schrieb am Di=2C 30.6.2009:
>=3B >= =3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B Von: Mark Sottilaro &l= t=3Bzerocrossing@gmail.com>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B Betref= f: Re: MY NEW TOY
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B An: Loopers-Delight@l= oopers-delight.com
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B Datum: Dienstag=2C 3= 0. Juni 2009=2C 11:29
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B Word on the stree= t is that if you
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B want *the best* then t= he Axe-FX is
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B the route to go:
>=3B= >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B http://www.f= ractalaudio.com/products-fa-axefx.html
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B<= BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B I have no experience with them but the = demos sound great:
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B (even with
>=3B= >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B youtube compression)
>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B http://www.youtube.com/watch?= v=3DUbu8A_wmmNI&=3Bfmt=3D18
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B The cost seems prohibitive to me=2C but if yo= u've got the
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B cash and want
>=3B &g= t=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B the best maybe it's worth it. I found my Vox Tonela= b/VF-1
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B combo to be
>=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B>=3B good enough for me=2C and Amplitube to be even better. One=
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B thing that
>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B>=3B sold me on the software route is that if I want to do
>=3B &= gt=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B something that's
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>= =3B not possible in a hardware set up without a bunch of
>=3B >=3B&g= t=3B >=3B>=3B re-routing I can
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B do i= t effortlessly and then call it up as a preset.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B On Tue=2C Jun 30=2C 2009 at 7= :56 AM=2C Jeff Duke<=3Bjeff_d@embarqmail.com>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B= >=3B>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B thanks Andy= =2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B>=3B >=3B but you did answer it really. It's funny but i
>=3B &= gt=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B recently compiled alot of my
>=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B tunes =3Bfor release on Bandcamp. I realized t= hat the
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B best (meaning my
>=3B >= =3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B favorite) sounds were all direct into the boa= rd
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B recordings. i have used
>=3B &g= t=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B whatever amp/speaker modelers I had in whate= ver fx box
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B I was using at the
>=3B= >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B time. All the newer stuff was done while = wearing
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B headphones in a quiet
>=3B= >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B apartment.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B&= gt=3B >=3B I arrange it so that my chain is distortion/fuzz into
>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B amp modelers
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B (currently Digitech RP 250 =3Band or Korg AX 3000G)
>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B into modfx/delay/reverb
>=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B into loopers into sometimes more mangle fx into mix= er.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B Not the best way but
>=3B >= =3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B there ya go. i stay stereo from the outputs o= f the
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B multi fx boxes. i really
>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B want a proper mixer so that i can feed= more of
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B everything into everything
= >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B else sort of :)
>=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B All that said i still believe that a good real amp<= BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B cranked up sounds better.
>=3B >= =3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B I just can't do that anymore in real life. I = guess it
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B come down to good tone
>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B being subjective. I am always looking = for "the" sound.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B hmmm=2C maybe this?>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B http://www.beavisaudio.com/Project= s/DBS/
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B &g= t=3B>=3B >=3B And your right about Bill Walker! He has the "tone"!
&= gt=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B = >=3B First cup 'o coffee wearing off=2C gotta go get more!
>=3B >= =3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B be= st=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B>=3B >=3B Jeff
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B = >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B= Ad astra per alia porci - Steinbeck
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B &g= t=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B>=3B >=3B http://jeffduke.org/
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B &= gt=3B http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace
>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B>=3B >=3B http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/
>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B>=3B >=3B http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-pres= ents
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B http://www.justin.tv/loopsl= ab
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke=
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B http://www.reverbnation.com/the= jeffduke
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B http://virb.com/jeffduk= e
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B http://themineisthemind.blogsp= ot.com/
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B http://www.youtube.com/u= ser/sticky899
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B http://www.sugarat= .org/tecbab/
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B &g= t=3B ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler"
>=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B>=3B <=3Bakbutler@tiscali.co.uk>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B = >=3B>=3B >=3B To: <=3BLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>=3B
= >=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B Sent: Tuesday=2C June 30=2C 2009 10= :15 AM
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B Jeff Duke wrote= :
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B &g= t=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B>=3B Rather than put two amp si= ms after the fx=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B surely it would be n= eater to
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B>=3B put o= ne amp sim between guitar and fx.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B What= would you recommend in a stereo amp sim
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>= =3B Andy?
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B = >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B Jeff
>=3B >=3B>=3B &g= t=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>= =3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B Oh=2C I'm probably the= worst person to ask about amp
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B sims =3B= -)
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B Ask Bill Walker.
>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B>=3B I only really started playing electric guitar when
>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B I started looping=2C
>=3B >=3B>=3B &= gt=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B and while I played bass through a nice valve setup=
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B for years I eventually
>=3B >= =3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B found that it just wouldn't reproduce t= he sort of
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B playing I put into it.
&g= t=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B (i.e. I used to sometimes get q= uite a lot going at
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B once=2C but wasn't<= BR>>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B willing to reduce the low = frequency content of the
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B sound.)
>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B>=3B Hence I now use JBL Eons for everything=2C and don't
&g= t=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B possess a decent amp
>=3B >=3B>=3B = >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B sim.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B&g= t=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B Currently I'm experim= enting with a Moogerfooger
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B Lo-pass to m= ellow
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B out the fuzzy tones = from my ADA MP1 valve pre.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B=
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B However=2C the raw fuzz/o= verdrive sounds I use sound
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B ok to me=2C= and it seems
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B also to the = audience. Only knowledgeable
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B guitarists= have sometimes
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B to worried= that I have a flat battery somewhere
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B = =3B-)
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B Generally=2C I reckon that for a looping devi= ce=2C a
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B clean full range sound is
&g= t=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B preferable
>=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B so that the layers can remain distinct in the=
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B mix.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B Hence I w= ould always put an amp sim before the
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B l= ooper=2C rather than after.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>= =3B Then it would be possible to build up a mix using
>=3B >=3B>= =3B >=3B>=3B different amp tones.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B &= gt=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B My guess was t= hat Ted wanted to "ampify" his pa
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B speak= ers by putting a
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B stereo>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B amp sim (two SansAmps) just = in front of them.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B It's a d= ifferent approach...and I don't doubt he'd
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>= =3B make it work.
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>= =3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B I'd say 'hope that helps'=2C onl= y as I didn't
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B answer the q= uestion...... =3B =3B :-)
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B andy
>=3B &= gt=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B &= gt=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >= =3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B >= =3B
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>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
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&g= t=3B >=3B
>=3B
= --_f501ee4a-272b-4938-918c-256a53b4bc0b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jun 30 22:45:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F6FA3BEC0; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 344 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:45:08 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 911470.2894.bm@omp410.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1246401563; bh=aXeRLpTTYD82WnxaDrwxIzm3PpEcsOfd9Ja6dLHeIdI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5IcVdhQhOGeeiPLrDuJ1GTYHClr0Bd1fvufPYdaAB+bwcowcF9YOvaVXnBMG9KVs+0Gq1xvW0b3hnXK5x3l/r4AzbJOdm5yQHEpBFR739RYJGUsIneltaCPzDRZ5tvwjEZ1ZpReSkhZJ2rsAlZtuSDWhzgMuFPhv2VeCFhg27P4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CP2EypRDvO7sbrKkLu2x2BsiLUNwdKciFpjBs6Dvsu4ZbZkWf17Blb6n+i5CYJjznLScH12Q9lCTmIvgt6jzA9swCqYWhXvdcM96FCueSWtAnphMHTKPUf/8LAcabP4xBbudDkjdgWlVzCKg2m3LEupGzkDNt/SfWuv7gb2t1c0=; Message-ID: <449257.27743.qm@web45913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GM9mrIkVM1kCwgSsX7x87jdFFdl_91jzGPCg70pS_3ek.09kQaNuS.aDOf.NrNTkt5GwxnJSv3dKREHDwceziu2Nb8rvonwNdfJM2CpdX_hqHXxIY8EJ9zmvIOHCk9FAq_oq9ebL3.oSCgEiQgmXKb_9w4PkfZcVojapGVr52fl2uW2fl4Gx392Bi2uI5r2zY9VENY4RsDqfX3DIa7fNm5uXRDWF7llKNIW6MN2dwLAd_XOkhDo.RuZ0ykWwCus_ZJgO9Gcd1jqU356MPIU8SJU1elpJFCiDMw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.43 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 References: <66f9cc1e0906301454y1f84036ame210312c44f88a00@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:39:22 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Short live video clip posted (Live Looping Festival Rome 2009) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0906301454y1f84036ame210312c44f88a00@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1212591006-1246401562=:27743" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/92437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:45:08 +0000 (UTC) --0-1212591006-1246401562=:27743 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii WOW ________________________________ From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:54:45 PM Subject: Short live video clip posted (Live Looping Festival Rome 2009) Got the first video clip from my Rome gig today http://bit.ly/JeKZH. Big thanks to Milco who filmed and sent me the video! Per --0-1212591006-1246401562=:27743 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
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From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:54:45 PM
Subject: Short live video clip posted (Live Looping Festival Rome 2009)

Got the first video clip from my Rome gig today http://bit.ly/JeKZH.
Big thanks to Milco who filmed and sent me the video!

Per

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