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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 10:11:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84A0D3BE7C; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:11:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nhm3ykFQh6vt431oLafibx/5apviP1efdltAPR1DX+A=; b=i1Xs0Tywh817tsjpeoLZf8Cq/hdY/X6ljqZtUfNWQfTEkPr1S/EbQApUvfdXMZI/cj Wy6sB0guirD83IRNWq3hyxyqTxZgrAszSls2w1kzSt+A4uZiG79SOsA0gL6PYVw/XOlE HPo0WNw27Ce3UpwqML28atsY1JKUbeB4ZNNBw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=e5TwwZ0kdLD2pg28MMYEeO2iHf95sGmjVXtqg0lZR0hYdLsFYJmhjmPQVxgukvsSpJ 2U23gqspwRTy1BUAqhHhBhG636jlgl5jDR2ikK3cmkRz2+NjimZuTxDYH+tQfiQ+fybO rDY2KsTEnS/BvJZTL6FhJiSQEk8pVVeg2ZpxI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:11:41 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0904010311g21f55f3cu6df057c0b57a9803@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:11:43 +0000 (UTC) > Thanx for this info Rainer we need more traveling threads like this! > i am not really sure but i thought i read sometime you been changing loop= ing software lately are u using mobius as your main looper? Thanks, Luis. Regarding your question: I don't know where you read that ;). Fact is, I have been considering switching my entire musical framework away from what I use now (basically Ableton Live as a software mixer/VST host with Mobius as the main looper and a bunch of other VST/Live effects) to something more flexible, and while I've been thinking about using PureData, I've yet to even start doing a first setup of it. The reason for that idea is that with the change from my slightly more song-oriented live programme (working title "loop4life"), which I did at the Y2k6loopfest and also on my "Weird Specialist" album, to the trombone-centered programme (working title "R=FCbezahl"), as found on my "Wie gro=DF ist die Luft ?" album from my last tour [see the jamendo link below for these albums], a lot of the functions provided by Ableton Live are no longer of use to me and, on the other hand, the flexibility in automation, routing and processing which is promised by more "abstract" platforms like MAX/MSP or PureData is lacking in Live. To cut a long story short: this is rather a big step to take - perhaps later on ;). But in the meantime, I wait for the release of Live 8, which seems to contain some functionality of MAX/MSP, so this may just be the step in between for me. I'm curious myself: while I've noticed you as an EDP user in the past, just recently you had a lot of trouble with IEEE1493 and the like - have you moved to Mobius as well? Cheers, Rainer http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://video.google.de/videosearch?q=3Dmoinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=3D117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 10:31:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 975553BE7F; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fy2S4oa1pvN4qbDDR62mNDozuBPv+8kvVfmz4uBGVfo=; b=O4qduW5IYukm7xr1/x10Mhs3R/SYt76ieXKduBJQw1NbNnnpHLKCCV43C2kVPRafRh GOf7vrPgaWLjqHkaohC28fzB/+U7SLGO1qyK9PFxo92eew48XgQRtgfgA6igh1qpI2Zy K4BL4ry45+1Y1nlXQXp+OBEHBjZgkL0dDPmKs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nSmv/bIQWjc/ispYp6b/3YyfOH6Ou1BmLuPmC6LEkd71A8aWGR50QY8v7zkcG3oL88 56REsRRAn3i6sApm4dGDCBUa6Ms8VYGJSPYv6Fw08/WeRjg9AVNFOok8gZ/l3mrpBnmF IMTAaiiMOxKe6X0PlIt4rufLpRP+zYPYvw83U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0904010311g21f55f3cu6df057c0b57a9803@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0904010311g21f55f3cu6df057c0b57a9803@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:31:44 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0904010331p4b8a64f8r1300686821f5feb4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:31:44 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > in the meantime, I wait for the release of Live 8, > which seems to contain some functionality of MAX/MSP, so this may just > be the step in between for me. Hey, Rainer - I'm looking forward to hear your take on Live 8! Especially since you seem interested in invesing in the Max For Live add-on to customize the whole shebang to your heart's delight. I was just checking out the Live 8 beta last week and the new plug-in "Looper" has a rock solid tempo master sync domination over the total application. This means you can simply "hit record, make some noise and hit record again" to have Live follow the tempo set by that first loop. From that moment you get the global tempo of Live to direct all tempo dependent audio plug-ins, other loopers, MIDI sequencer loops or whatever stuff you may have mocked up in Max For Live. I don't think I will have a window to go fully into this nice new looping rig opportunity, since I'm getting more busy over time with my simple Mainstage-into-Mobius setup. And of course one strong point for me is that I like the sounds I get out of chaining the Logic effects together as Mainstage patches. Seems Apple swallowed me at last ;-) Oh, well... Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 11:38:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 620353BE80; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:38:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238585912; bh=Ht9kFwE6B/mO8vhmJCafA4oTvhqx4FLatVKRWT+ajws=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Y8++i7wf6sRtmH+qxxwXfyvZ+rkM2vLkYw5n1D2gTyofxEkyTHMo95mtGg7lnTpIoZprhowxHO+n7xIo5GQafKd9MsRVnzZrnKyc8IAbkTzaSp8/wv550aJ7pMhwGGD1qHGXx+I9EobMbTnt+auQkTZ5bHC6zE+zMKRko1cSUY8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=E3f+IFYV7zEhxVpCY4g5oxyavd+xD+1wVN1fU9dGwJY4wjL0HUEn2gqYcq4+qPW00t5knRpVerWN9UE45tIbJ7GlsRWJgllGFGi0GixptDyx+XPdqRnni9Yp11FiVXvcWj5D9LGr06MOizVsC5TQzDspjezaQAO0AFqjmyiRjpQ=; Message-ID: <405129.44047.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: eDYFeEoVM1m4utTyGqppNsEi4UXXg74ADzQcZTWFMvz6jra1HErqTmvvl2bu8Yhar0zF4RlOGakSbwKwtqEdZCj87WOEem2Qx4NpT9Euz6vfz.b8nKfyCioZDxm6KQOmCMyUxiwu3kHZZDLgf7phmCapmO1R3lKs.rzzVcedodsQTsyaKHOthQ7xA863hauRt7Vcf_96oChcF9JoDy9sQLgmqAv5N4bhuVKpY2bHM_McgK50ucY5Vnso9oGo.08ko498oHoStJUYL9ThddvqdXt6rmM8dD_sAYLBKlu4dYhmvpdbS4bGXo47pmlUXjG64SeXym8dhkcuU5GG_DWB4RTsyF0okUlNbJhGCA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 04:38:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:38:33 +0000 (UTC) Wow that sound excellent!=0Aif my long syncing hopes become real with that = then i will join live as well!=0Aso my sync dream would be importing a drum= groove sample of my liking,pausing it then building a loop of my own and t= rigger the sample and have it stretch autmatically to my loop,sort of like = the groove clip looping in Sonar or Acid,then offcourse all time based efx = following=0Adoes my dream have a hope?=0A=0A=0A=0A> =0A> Hey, Rainer - I'm = looking forward to hear your take on Live=0A> 8!=0A> Especially since you s= eem interested in invesing in the Max=0A> For Live=0A> add-on to customize = the whole shebang to your heart's=0A> delight.=0A> =0A> I was just checking= out the Live 8 beta last week and the=0A> new plug-in=0A> "Looper" has a r= ock solid tempo master sync domination over=0A> the total=0A> application. = This means you can simply "hit record, make=0A> some noise=0A> and hit reco= rd again" to=A0 have Live follow the tempo=0A> set by that first=0A> loop. = >From that moment you get the global tempo of Live to=0A> direct all=0A> tem= po dependent audio plug-ins, other loopers, MIDI=0A> sequencer loops or=0A>= whatever stuff you may have mocked up in Max For Live.=0A> =0A> I don't th= ink I will have a window to go fully into this=0A> nice new=0A> looping rig= opportunity, since I'm getting more busy over=0A> time with my=0A> simple = Mainstage-into-Mobius setup. And of course one=0A> strong point for=0A> me = is that I like the sounds I get out of chaining the=0A> Logic effects=0A> t= ogether as Mainstage patches. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 12:07:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 608C33BE7F; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:07:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YuuvUfjqYGEwCeoT4RwT7NKWBYdhOvlqsi8KvMhQSNw=; b=EO9we2kC6m6ILpCrFaTUkW2WxkLU6EKiEALjyCjQjSVKp2xdbtmkn6tW+K9oIfUQI/ iddpkTTOahffb+uOLWbIQPkI2huqfiTLgY6iFspypCtW5fZh27Y3uP/qOf+fBR9YhWJj CFm+bdcpH5mQCzkofnksE2+go4eNE6/85j2t8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mur+d7/U1oVk5OwMbTYXOpPidi6ZFEMp88QxKUhNLT13YP1HHiMf58sQK32SY0Po1c fn88DZ0Hra/NJsPKEJui67FlmwXJ0198MeFSQWicXePJpsMKtmKPKdNuWZ2a3dIsGCbR KMFQ7N3KKbTDWT+ntW0RzXvW81mJUaAoMD2xc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <405129.44047.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <405129.44047.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:07:27 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0904010507h2fa8ab78j7bff71b49f67e854@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:07:29 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:38 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > my sync dream would be importing a drum groove sample of my liking,pausin= g it then building a loop of my own and trigger the sample and have it stre= tch autmatically to my loop,sort of like the groove clip looping in Sonar o= r Acid,then offcourse all time based efx following > does my dream have a hope? Ableton Live 8 seems good for that. HOpe is on your side! :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 12:53:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E51733BE73; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IPmcd2+kJND9WbjlC3vYw4alMZji4aOiCapbjRdav34=; b=U+f+pgBXko5XBUrmx40oXeiY/2pD1NVFJ/D4OfwSNjze4mK0OWA1HxSTAVvh3gU4Bq G97PPJk+p5o0eMlm7jWUyt4M8aSdR29xwO06jyX7TMi8tr+LfQFCcoUGchhsSTHhQME9 v3NBowjDINuPxWmSDgrSQ92pKrlinJeZ9rYgE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N0r0viyLFljazZ4vmVl6Du+aW3XerG1TGfzsTrYNZcEj4WEoLG8CI0YOqOIOZTQJoL O1oi2A+9E7kXN35+C1HYHW3VaINbCJ+iaXE39a+NmBOoemPQfrwHVjIO+sgxu4JEaED7 GKLEo55c8flSTVKbG9KYpPuHCvyVu7/cD9YFk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:53:50 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d2d9c70d25b28066 Message-ID: Subject: new live videos From: Os To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:53:51 +0000 (UTC) http://vimeo.com/album/78733 with me doing the usual Ableton Live/Augustus Loop soundscaping & guitar looping. cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 12:55:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 549B03BE84; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:55:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238590527; bh=WxV8DsanjLG4DDnwUlTHYtKGWd1W+mtUSoX61btRt7o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=dlWEYfXev7saytSx5HMjb6NlVrYkefTXEu6JOQXXCDKHpJ8ad7U1IUFNQkXWrH8kole6kD7qRcUpw4UiAGEHfhrtV0nXVM1h3UPD22DoiptnFjIF4BVUSsSjEBLkE/eC1S3oeLqd7F2LRq8nJAR4HzcFpIezOcED1Acnwz6ex+g= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=thjzRWAdg4tg0y0X1d0rPHUlSCK72om4rEUkjZi856yXwIe7EMC4CGTdPkF6PpnaxhPpZq8CAnrs9Gn5B7l5V1YAv3k/WLJv3Y+9Jm009XsK+5cr2KeC2a9osk5DJf6Va8//5wIE5KJ4WQtgCqYqYObndORXllltScELPG/tfgU=; Message-ID: <221244.92106.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 95B8syQVM1kvBlm5MT75YA2jS49EIQ_lJYQxudKbPhQZO6H6QtBBRticZbFvgHBbzUC3Snoh36nj.fLttk4P2Wp6UoYft03trLWRrYjllwr8jp8heD.2cTJ__VEY.Ckr3cUdV8nSZLdKzxwv9aYdEvjK5wPXgTwgqOHq1PXE9buioKnV6Qdel5XxJXQqQmusBXRo.GpgQ4bwV68ayyKkANKXDYOOAiHJ66VkxKKoj2opobaJfuaDW87elCu75QvbtWe5Sv.IhXL.GqW3Ww-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:55:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:55:30 +0000 (UTC) > I'm curious myself: while I've noticed you as an EDP user=0A> in the past= ,=0A> just recently you had a lot of trouble with IEEE1493 and=0A> the like= -=0A> have you moved to Mobius as well?=0A> =0A> Cheers,=0A> =0A> =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer=0A=0AYes ever since i came back from Y2K8 in San= ta Cruz california i started observing the staggering prices for excess bag= gage,damaged equipment(my MO-FX came without a knob and screws once even th= ough it was packed nicely and carefully in one fo my bags which makes me ra= ther think they messed around with it to inspect a possible bomb) and compl= icated current situation in airports.=0AThats when i started considering th= e laptop route so i got a macbook and dowloaded Mobius which ive been using= ever since.Ive actually been quite happy with it,but the recent problem wi= th my firewire problems also made me realize how fragile this things are an= d think what if that happened while i wes traveling or at a gig.I still don= t know what went wrong,if it was a FW cable that burned my PCI card,RME,Pre= sonus and macbook FW port,then i d be terrified to do a tour with this,i di= dnt know that a FW cable can cause such damage!this its been a nightmare la= tely and it has costed me time and money.=0AI know now that nothing beats t= he flexibility of software,after combining features of an EDP,LP1,Repeater,= DL4 and every looper i liked and tried into a single piece of software with= a big screen and not having to carry and mess around in the back of the ra= ck with a flashlight it would probably be hard to go back to that.On the ot= her hand i miss the feeling of simplicity an reliability from stomp boxes a= nd even since i had the black EDP it never really let me down.=0ABut i am s= till willing to keep exploring this route and bulid more expreience,i guess= there is no other way around it,wether is SW or HW you always need a backu= p;-)=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A From info@oxford-bn.org Wed Apr 1 13:09:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1664 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 13:42:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FB073BE80; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:42:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9WDqj0XbBNGB/zjLlB5KDJpSzv4/Vlvf9ERb6BkCO+8=; b=AZzLeBRUqtI4TAs9cwwq9RykSpQ/J5Hvk6pyuaw/sAEHo48Y4lMbh3BCf/SA/4CHPo ahkSjTsGrt9TQ6+1axrJt1/Nk4/7MbOt+kz0YatXiJSwBfjI/fcMdc2WrTgG7+QdWfCK NVOTe1g05x0kd7needVwWZY5ujrfUxhWqhKK8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=AeeJp/xHzucC9U8QxagJ8AAdRSzhqgCZnElahQ2WNnj2vCPWPF52ZbX4/0BBaaVxrd S+iIou9vcz9L/YSP3L78jz7f0213q2LUQG2Lae699eC8NQObBnQqkxjKJd3h9npbaLJP pnRw5s2T2ts8nw9qJvpjhUvN/laqd01neWCb8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:42:03 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Antares DMA From: Tony K To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6YDb9B.A.KlG.t820JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:42:05 +0000 (UTC) http://antarestech.com/DMA/index.shtml -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 13:43:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A9BF3BE82; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:43:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <18849.69.73.1238593429.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:43:49 -0400 (AST) Subject: Help with mixer-interface-laptop setup From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal References:In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:43:51 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I was wondering if any one can help me with this. I've been trying to use my Yamaha MG82cx to send audio to my Edirol UA-1EX interface and on into my laptop. It works OK except I can't seem to eliminate my original sound from the output, so I end up with a ghosting type of sound. I have direct monitoring turned off on the interface so I'm thinking it's some routing option on the mixer that I'm overlooking. I had a Mackie 1202 before and I think I used the Alt3/4 for this. Do I need to get another? Thanks, Andre Andre Donawa Barbados Guitar School Woodside Gardens Bay St. St. Michael Barbados 11157 Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) 246 436 8294 (School) http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 14:07:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E7FF3BE82; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:07:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49D3752B.3060905@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 08:07:39 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Goh Nakamura, live in hotel room References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:07:44 +0000 (UTC) Looper and Y2k participant Goh Nakamura just Twittered this video of him playing in a hotel room (with a cool fisheye lens that gives the feeling of looking through the peephole..). Very simple and straightforward use of looping and echo with a DL4, but it's a beautiful song that is served well by the tool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg8-Gc8Ujqs Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 14:33:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CC213BE91; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:33:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <808EFED39F56482EB2636D105F594440@pcfabio> From: "eterogeneo" To: References: <49D3752B.3060905@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: Goh Nakamura, live in hotel room Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:33:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: smtp6.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:33:59 +0000 (UTC) Yes, very nice song and vocal interpretation Fabio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 4:07 PM Subject: Goh Nakamura, live in hotel room > Looper and Y2k participant Goh Nakamura just Twittered this video of him > playing in a hotel room (with a cool fisheye lens that gives the feeling > of looking through the peephole..). Very simple and straightforward use > of looping and echo with a DL4, but it's a beautiful song that is served > well by the tool. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg8-Gc8Ujqs > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.35/2034 - Release Date: 04/01/09 06:06:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 15:03:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2376C3BE94; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:03:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 175947836/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.165.7/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.165.7 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmQCAHsf00lPTqUH/2dsb2JhbAAI0GSCLYFOBodE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,307,1235952000"; d="scan'208";a="175947836" Message-ID: <49D38494.1010706@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:13:24 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags References: <221244.92106.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <221244.92106.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:03:43 +0000 (UTC) L.Angulo wrote: >,i didnt know that a FW cable can cause such damage Well, I was putting that forward as a possibility, I haven't yet experienced that a shorted cable damages the firewire card in the pc. Did you confirm that this was the case? Luis said >>what is puzzling me is that i conected the RME to >> my macbook and my macbooks firewire was also fried which i So I was thinking that if the RME wasn't to blame, must be the cable. The firewire connectors are pretty fragile, and certainly the circuit board in Matthias' firewire guitar fried do to a bad connection. I think it was the socket in that case, but the overall design isn't robust. ( certainly not good to use a guitar lead ) The cable carries power, and there isn't much separating the power connection to the signal connection. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 15:13:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40FB33BE90; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:13:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49D3847C.6030300@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:13:00 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Firewire (WAS: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags) References: <221244.92106.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49D38494.1010706@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49D38494.1010706@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6qEk.A.w-B.CS40JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:13:06 +0000 (UTC) That is so terrifying. Fire wire, indeed! USB cables can also carry power, would you suppose that that the same risk applies? Cables undergo stress and eventually fail as a matter of course. If the cable is going to jeopardize the equipment, I would limit myself to buying things that had an independent power supply and only sent signal over the wire. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > The firewire connectors are pretty fragile, and certainly the circuit > board in Matthias' firewire guitar fried do to a bad connection. > I think it was the socket in that case, but the overall design isn't > robust. ( certainly not good to use a guitar lead ) > > The cable carries power, and there isn't much separating the power > connection > to the signal connection. > andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 16:07:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67FBB3BE8B; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:07:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 370 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:07:35 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nAN2PnxhJTGy13pktmrg8iq4j8e2qsh1tOg16G9jzpI=; b=tScNM6KLkpkISHGhg8t1fWN+zAMjO3xMXkVfBegoElFLgCYira9ESXKfD3seQbpe5L 7ezhK9iRAW2JX4Y+Vgd1VTv8Jy/C2O2AAAAx22g7hhT4iNc5EPKLjMjlSZ4i3AxTyvAz CImShrUa/zAZz6npPVayU+OrTdpbkg25akalE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=RuyNvkgjH6GRoNf5ZNqKwV1n9gRl4b4wQ8vFFBIHeY10TyY23/OAD/kaZtwlV0blZL mU8M8gbLpiE7ock/eV5lb8eZ8lWZ/Axu19iLCSHevmIASFrl8DqIZFKDT2QaM7YztxYS EqamL1SbvlIrfZbC7oa+sTTzzlH7fNuc7Ntn4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49D3847C.6030300@mhorse.com> References: <221244.92106.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49D38494.1010706@tiscali.co.uk> <49D3847C.6030300@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:01:09 +0100 Message-ID: <83de5a8a0904010901m4cb3a91dxe83ee30d517d22c9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Firewire (WAS: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags) From: Cameron McCormack To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016369896eb69334a0466806d42 Resent-Message-ID: <5e8iyC.A.I4D.IF50JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:07:36 +0000 (UTC) --0016369896eb69334a0466806d42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I suppose an independent power supply is subject to the same danger, although, not a part of the same port carrying the signal. Maybe frequent checking of cables and connectors is the answer. Cam 2009/4/1 Daryl Shawn > That is so terrifying. Fire wire, indeed! > > USB cables can also carry power, would you suppose that that the same risk > applies? Cables undergo stress and eventually fail as a matter of course. If > the cable is going to jeopardize the equipment, I would limit myself to > buying things that had an independent power supply and only sent signal over > the wire. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > The firewire connectors are pretty fragile, and certainly the circuit >> board in Matthias' firewire guitar fried do to a bad connection. >> I think it was the socket in that case, but the overall design isn't >> robust. ( certainly not good to use a guitar lead ) >> >> The cable carries power, and there isn't much separating the power >> connection >> to the signal connection. andy >> > > --0016369896eb69334a0466806d42 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I suppose an independent power supply is subject to the same danger, althou= gh, not a part of the same port carrying the signal. Maybe frequent checkin= g of cables and connectors is the answer.

Cam

2009/4/1 Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com>
That is so terrifying. Fire wire, indeed!

USB cables can also carry power, would you suppose that that the same risk = applies? Cables undergo stress and eventually fail as a matter of course. I= f the cable is going to jeopardize the equipment, I would limit myself to b= uying things that had an independent power supply and only sent signal over= the wire.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com<= /a>
www.chinapa= intingmusic.com


The firewire connectors are pretty fragile, and certainly the circuit board= in Matthias' firewire guitar fried do to a bad connection.
I think it was the socket in that case, but the overall design isn't robust. ( certainly not good to use a guitar lead )

The cable carries power, and there isn't much separating the power conn= ection
to the signal connection. andy


--0016369896eb69334a0466806d42-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 16:34:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBA5A3BE90; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:34:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1238603668; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=lgoc20s0foI2dPzkGeovlUOd8Nw=; b=qW8sOWu1HCdfzodjrFIwRRLfZ1fLFBC95rfDxD8v4RxmZIGUUWActszyf6nK83Jc 9mXoKl5UqRDdJvLSRoZMrJYEBnSY5NOZLWRnepAYs3B9Ft4ZHT8cSw1q8AldXt+C; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=4RRFkUZAAAAA:8 a=dT3TR4q7AAAA:8 a=ypF9D923PITZLrEU5CEA:9 a=J1ZY2uq8TXYm8yBeqV15Z7hM4woA:4 a=6-x43y6uxGMA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000801c9b2e7$ba099730$bac7e843@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: Subject: Re: Antares DMA Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:34:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:34:28 +0000 (UTC) Now this is funny! But then again... j ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony K" To: "loopers-delight" Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 9:42 AM Subject: Antares DMA > http://antarestech.com/DMA/index.shtml > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 16:41:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92E353BE94; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7Npr2ApoB873EETCE07l18+sbK0tsrVsP5TPFweJGno=; b=CsXtsrOWmR5oUIMqrmZh+OdTUW3GEZWi/lVk6xST3nub8E8x9U2h6MqP/65WIGiMea E3IhqXB6oBHYqben38ls0/KXUl7Hl0qvvKZWQKaalpSC4cFtvU2YF/n4NMZBlKMXPz5n h83xesewTM0Wbv8uIIQC+RQ72KTD+rrk7hE6E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=kq7JQBazVM23aIFtbNmVw6efi9wQRvFioZHm6A7WOZ9IAR36nPxV/7e5RfriSHjLcW y0CCOe4TSACrOSBebbZDP6+TfRkc92byJbjqTcdLbEjLpMPOX+fJG00hDnNGY6YFxqWC bsstLhet4DYJuCZ1Mwe/M1v9yWtmf+j49iyfQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:41:26 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0904010941g50b81efcjc3ddc2e92bc3bf45@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Firewire vs USB (WAS: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Daryl asked: > USB cables can also carry power, would you suppose that that the same risk applies? USB uses much lower voltage and power - to be more precise: USB has 5V of power supply, with the signal lines being in the 0-1V range. However, pulling signal lines high is used to signal the transfer speed, so there is a good chance that shorting the 5V power line with one of the signal lines will not damage the interface circuit. Also typical semiconductor technology voltage ranges are well above that, but I don't know whether CMOS input stages are used. The case is different with Firewire; here, the power supply is specified at 25V (more specifically: 24 -1/+5V), however, a lot of laptops only supply their DC supply here. Still, that voltage is something that could damage your input circuit if a short between the power supply lines and the signal lines happened. Solution: use USB. Or use 4-pin Firewire connectors. Or don't use computers at all ;) Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 16:44:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AF5A3BE98; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=4nWlnGlibjVWRX1iQho8hV0+wkUeRktrLNGaIZfcCrs=; b=m/ejhKL61oT+KNmY8u2U0yRXRchtNFit4558f703YuGLK1G6h2SaOWZqlA4mM47rqg 8cBspeVgSpbXDomLXaXa4w2XC8KVdV89aqVWqPiD2ncHg+0G2FL9ExlSNnSGZpR1EWr+ nZe0noKJUXkj5I46LiBFCjXzLYi1HesX2Wnxk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=PmXCibNQRqk5sdcAsNdIcZZ/PeQTTM8iJmADwVlqHxQyjP80RlPmR45aUotxYZjrn5 vaQJqHq+gg4H1N5rSKTujUzBM/hv6Ty5My5OZqdB0g9aYOh8rAP6cIzexarhrsNpdrhV PRvRpC83QfnN5gLCRW28nxC2Y3mKnRGz0fI7w= Message-Id: From: David Hayes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <362811.83479.qm@web87108.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-451673208 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Exchoplex for Sale. Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:46:34 -0700 References: <362811.83479.qm@web87108.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:44:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-451673208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit $499! (I prefer local to portland but would consider shipping to someone on this list if it's safe and easy for everyone... I usually don't ship. Shipping cost paid by buyer.) This is the Oberhiem EDP which works fine but it does have one line of one of the digital displays out, so the top of a 0 doesn't display. Also it has the loop 3 version software rather then the newer loop 4, but there's not that many differences really if I remember correctly. (Someone please let me know if I'm wrong about that. You can half the speed in the next version, right?) I figure I'll just throw in the footswitch because the record button is starting to get touchy. A bit of contact cleaner could do it or they may need replacing. (They're only like $3-7 per button but takes time to find 'em and solder them and pay someone to do it. I have done it before for my other EDP's for maximum dependability but that was a long while ago.) New Gibson EDP's (if you could get them, they seem to be very hard to come by) I think are $1000 plus $150 for the footswitch (that was the range I remember when I bought mine, not even sure you can get the footswitch new... my web searches yielded little so, again, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!) --Apple-Mail-3-451673208 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable $499! (I prefer local to = portland but would consider shipping to someone on this list if it's = safe and easy for everyone... I usually don't ship. Shipping cost paid = by buyer.)

This is the Oberhiem EDP = which works fine but it does have one line of one of the digital = displays out, so the top of a 0 doesn't display. Also it has the loop 3 = version software rather then the newer loop 4, but there's not that many = differences really if I remember correctly. (Someone please let me know = if I'm wrong about that. You can half the speed in the next version, = right?)

I figure I'll just throw in the footswitch because the = record button is starting to get touchy. A bit of contact cleaner could = do it or they may need replacing. (They're only like $3-7 per button but = takes time to find 'em and solder them and pay someone to do it. I have = done it before for my other EDP's for maximum dependability but that was = a long while ago.) 

New Gibson EDP's (if you could get them, = they seem to be very hard to come by) I think are $1000 plus $150 for = the footswitch (that was the range I remember when I bought mine, not = even sure you can get the footswitch new... my web searches yielded = little so, again, feel free to correct me if I'm = wrong!)

= --Apple-Mail-3-451673208-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 16:51:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B20173BE97; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=io1Y3VxCjBDLH3FUXMpiZSFYyms4H9+8u8zfZsVjeW8=; b=ht0zF2vXF1MkRcDO23fa64dO/hr2QLdir3y8rAhH79wrvFVzdSR1N4JbmUqowT/AlV fhSXwAYQdNtipvi7ttfJUw7GNGItKX2xn7YDAzKhsl5I1bp3CVsKjD69pxyNjRrqjkmU EXDfB/Fdafdbo0JFtSeJw2ZYldRxPepO+sYbM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=YjgawnH8Wc4hrXioPMK0lCUXqcyC8XVoZDXFgP2JMnAzPEphMxOFHECBth17uJPIRG VpSeoFDOk5+3jKxgvVylLIszBz3qYblA860vSFMX34fa26V1dxeOA0TT1lWmlGGwf0az IivioBmg1Zf1mGS0wQPaDfVQvcauGB86yNSkM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:51:38 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0904010951q35b58400q5dd97cdeaf73ce15@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Help with mixer-interface-laptop setup From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Andre, from your description it's hard to judge your problem properly, so I try: You have your signal source (whichever) connected to some input of your mixer. Some output of your mixer goes to your audio interface, and the interfaces goes back into your mixer. Then the mixer goes to some kind of PA/headphones/whatever. When you play your source signal into the mixer, you hear it through your PA and also some kind of slapback version of it (not phaser-kind, more like a slapback). It's most probable that your interface or your computer software sends your source signal back to the mixer. To try that, why don't you connect your source signal to your audio interface, the interface to the PA and see if you can hear the originall source signal. If that is the case, then the interface is the problem. Some more throughout description of your setup (what is patched into what, what software are you using etc.) could also help. Best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 17:10:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F70B3BE9E; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:10:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238605846; bh=QiJlBVk1189+LBv1LCybuxePilPQvOhoZGdaGgLX1vk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zy8WgPabwdhARAmAIeXF5OLZaubdp70K2daXGWBZnkQywrhdhFs0F+kh78E+I91/woiUBisxKcVVzttxL4gjmLM/rOPSIngbaRFoMk2FhrlITXNv3htmtvoMoZZRPVK0qdZCQYinor1pYlopbLoQg9aRiI+tXrWpHHcPm+EtdQs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wRzlRENh4v6mdLT6uH/2Df+wUtJTyyymGQWdjla+qSo0dqDaM3okKB31GAaLL5qnVbPTzaMQrAShE2DKjgEBiDIPlXInN7WS0BHctVLeL9/D+LjJ1eyTDu+L9T/oHxhYf7KWRt3MM2W1Udyoia/d6zwT22yjujkjFJnINgM0tYw=; Message-ID: <484686.66843.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: G2CCpeQVM1mOc9kITDBcOqE1ZyiiQEr9d7LurTdcNCyVS8Tz31BufuZdA47gyGfNEYPE.C0kPkQsC.90yTJLlyinwvT_eMIAchqImu.aDIURWYPKTN7gGBYSPOcTp6WRwFn2emeOExSLjaRxPRpHtAe4VujONVYgCIfnlFFP6WPGCEd3lAsMGOuUuoV1FCCpGVUdv2qYeqA0wKEove7k6C1RaKoqYL2pdC4cI5nJgpxfE9DCoXtewJCNBgtBmwdxjxpJwBlfHCdhzzQwBPKhnwFz18qDWHisTpRuJpl18Q9hUGpRRop6xpS0ME2X40RJdS0Z7rrJemzTC5AZ81CDSvE6HfWk85WN X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:10:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:10:47 +0000 (UTC) Well Andy i am still trying to figure it out myself...=0Ahere is what i did= :=0AMy RME FW800 was always pluged to my PC(though the RME had an issue a y= ear before when all of the sudden it stopped working)=0AThe i disconected t= he RME to test it with my macbook and after that plugged it back to my PC.T= hen all of a sudden the RME stopped working.=0AThe i disconected my firebox= from my Mac to see if the PCI card on my PC was burned but my firebox work= ed perfect,i even did some recording with it that night.I also used the sam= e cable.=0ASo i sent the RME for repairs assuming it had a problem again.= =0Athe next day i had a loop gig and i conected my firebox back with my mac= and did the gig with no problems.Since i needed to work on with Sonar on m= y PC i reconected the firebox back to my PC but all of the sudden my firebo= x also stopped working.So i reconected it to my mac to test it with another= cable but didnt work with it either.So i sent the firebox for repairs.=0Ab= ecause my firebox had worked perfectly after the RME had gone bad i assumed= the PCI was still ok but after testing a borrowed FW external drive, the P= CI and the macbook didnt recognize it.Then i went ahead and tested both fur= ther with a mout Soundcard and didint work with both computers so then i re= alized something had gone bad with both the PCI and the FW on my Mac.=0ANow= my mac which was i insured with the protection plan is working again,my RM= E is on its way again repaired and the firebox will eventually get here as = well.So though i am still nto sure what was faulty i took the PCI card out = of my PC and trashed it and ordered a new one.Ive also made sure that all F= W cables are working.But dont ask me what happened!=0ALuis=0A=0A=0Awww.mysp= ace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On Wed, 4/1/09, andy butler wrote:=0A=0A> From: andy butler =0A> Su= bject: Re: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags=0A> To: Loopers= -Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 8:13 AM=0A= > =0A> =0A> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >,i didnt know that a FW cable can cause su= ch damage=0A> =0A> Well, I was putting that forward as a possibility, I=0A>= haven't yet=0A> experienced that a shorted cable damages the firewire card= =0A> in the pc.=0A> =0A> Did you confirm that this was the case?=0A> =0A> L= uis said=0A> >>what is puzzling me is that i conected the RME to=0A> >> my = macbook and my macbooks firewire was also fried=0A> which i=0A> =0A> =0A> S= o I was thinking that if the RME wasn't to blame, must be=0A> the cable.=0A= > =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> The firewire connectors are pretty fragile,= and certainly=0A> the =0A> circuit board in Matthias' firewire guitar frie= d do to a=0A> bad connection.=0A> I think it was the socket in that case, b= ut the overall=0A> design isn't=0A> robust. ( certainly not good to use a g= uitar lead )=0A> =0A> The cable carries power, and there isn't much separat= ing=0A> the power connection=0A> to the signal connection.=A0 =0A> =0A> and= y=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 18:14:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA8983BE88; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HHx3UPbHhDvpn4ib4D5T2AuejUBEjvrFr9aiZC7LOZQ=; b=rP4Jb7kubtMA0Tp1gdMp3T+30EZhb/FdZdZUGlExjM1SwDnfzJKeFy8UN3C/Bxm6RR bJ3e05AD/J/9VExnkJbshWOW3jiJ4QHymU5assbh588RD+wfgDYsXYR7RRqB3/OElv8P AK9PfmP094TUjZkKnAtWuOhf2y2De2j1IXHuw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tXwYXZSAL0E9pUVPnOZQsSMnVJ2BZvxSG5PXDDshekLT4Vi/Q/HnofxEhH8zvvEzJa 0RgjNMHwffWJV12YuIE/N6aGBIHSjendQdC2IwbAt+FycmcHC11NS3K1RdNMOFLc8Nbm 4TOqbmJAFToSBYD8ylxXJRZkKzDYUQkP0y6Xo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49D0E356.6070705@mhorse.com> References: <49D0BE28.70201@cruzio.com> <49D0E356.6070705@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:14:14 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: loop-friendly venues From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:14:16 +0000 (UTC) Well, I'm fond of the list that Mark's tool produces, and I'm planning to put it to some use. Matt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 18:17:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69D5A3BE91; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49D3AF97.30004@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:16:55 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Firewire vs USB (WAS: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags) References: <7334ca1b0904010941g50b81efcjc3ddc2e92bc3bf45@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0904010941g50b81efcjc3ddc2e92bc3bf45@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Rainer, always a fount of info! Heh, I'm pretty safe except for the power supply to my tape decks (will triple-check those connections now, though, thanks Cameron), but I do have a USB recording interface for dumping stuff to the computer and don't want to have to approach it with gloves and goggles in a safe room. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> USB cables can also carry power, would you suppose that that the same risk applies? >> > > USB uses much lower voltage and power From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 18:31:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B49573BE88; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=BkCNPOY5e0uUMUN++iNU+h9X+a3x9AOJfmCVxpybuZg=; b=kdu1/EsDTxmyY3F/lwNkM9a+o/wJaFforPAVUhOe8jSJLshfU3qznX7bMs9mDm0XM5 U+RDI4JkkbHXYYrMb2YP410PGx0UyGyMKKDimaFwCuP9Z03BDO4eP5LR2D41TR2GbVT2 im6ltau3VXdo8QgNqkr7VCNbzhEK7jtbV2fyU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=uOGmpm9d+wCSLqng1gwsyOReQym31LCN7USO0/yMa4ehvr3o3nXw8DkVc4VdMDwGht 5yCq8l5nL3kZc4fsvAeIvr+hpCrtnwGa5/OzHcPf7rUWf436fZrs7uHmimwmQ8qC2s1h HgshLMrhEkVlZ3YfIiyYflrpTg8U+MEbjsPtI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <1856741283.2204021238507373195.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <2871c3a90903310454g3128e4b7y19818a8c3108e8ad@mail.gmail.com> <1856741283.2204021238507373195.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:31:39 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 25fe290bd493d3fd Message-ID: <101191640904011131m48cb0c4did194fd71d2134209@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Songs starting with drums From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636283b0aca983504668286fd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:31:40 +0000 (UTC) --001636283b0aca983504668286fd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit oh, that would be a fun mash-up On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Christophe wrote: > She Has Funny Cars, on Jefferson Airplane's Surrealistic Pillow album >> >> >> > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --001636283b0aca983504668286fd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oh, that would be a fun mash-up

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--001636283b0aca983504668286fd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 19:42:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C04A63BE8B; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:42:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238614978; bh=dAWy6pPcqvjfcLl0MIHJrDcaaRer+9CbynN5CDfchhM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dV1llEh8vvZ2/6lcpyRUq1RqX9hY2JslMs4Nr2J/ptv9CK75VIbNj+OeoVY2RalmJMRfx88V6aTjz7G5Unau+ATomOehfjjmqUfo46gsg4EBD9hAsCsSgylzuK9gWYeezQAyxG0oOBqAapG8P9byDOF5GiUcD39xj4Wb+s0w444= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pdMGRELjJsYzioiWT4kQgb/kbc3cyGMId4yxsXgBG0ZNm61BNVHY+pgtmL+NCE7uQCh0pXCLBcPDlcM43pew7awziHvUmwblhhlTuXG3M2otoyqlrB5ycqsmrkF8XqT0d0i8jc8Ef0FXKi4rPKfUaaO8t7eEUbeks+i9XgxNqlQ=; Message-ID: <880294.20802.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mRn_MBcVM1kioVa8aIFE15OdlKWnuviD2m7XgRVsfI7iFgjwH.oSWrXhHMOou0zh30.76JSbT3QoDOljb5V9nxqiz7ZIN_tNuVCkzv5x9xoxX1KI433hiyg7yu31_xQ9IHgg29hyPmbnBHYTuFeM3melhZTxVZ_QACVfK8S9iGM47KcusRHkSwnXuno6IFhIr9XPHDOsqmBZbNzzAgznWHjHWUAvM5542u_4GiloxJaFaGJO3rHwarIK9Mtw85ZCV7AcbL3r_dryrzAqti5wu24Fd.Vt4YGGehFQj31EfTE.wAl0yo3XWDqWRIdmn3Vu6E7KuMrEnUS2JlncGWqvE.jMasCmtS8- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:42:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Goh Nakamura, live in hotel room To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:42:59 +0000 (UTC) somehow his voice reminds me of Don Henley,yes Goh is a great pop songwriter Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Wed, 4/1/09, Daryl Shawn wrote: > From: Daryl Shawn > Subject: Goh Nakamura, live in hotel room > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 7:07 AM > Looper and Y2k participant Goh > Nakamura just Twittered this video of him playing in a hotel > room (with a cool fisheye lens that gives the feeling of > looking through the peephole..). Very simple and > straightforward use of looping and echo with a DL4, but it's > a beautiful song that is served well by the tool. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg8-Gc8Ujqs > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 20:00:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DD9A3BE8B; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:00:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238616027; bh=ntSX4uiFg81dCEQlMhtndO03pzM4kz27PhDZK6Yee4Y=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cWMUV/Ax0F/ZrbPBHmDK3qX+2j2T1ZBRQoZM/FraLPe2/B51vhTT85xS9xQ5y4vddY03M6FBHP9MuGpCaN2R7zALG77kO2BHYD2Vexoys05mF1Ancay9lxMbrtWEl1ANjOy1Y30T0YK+CMz2txNKG5/dSatOf8hgPxSTIJ3sW2k= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FhMN3v/ve8x7+E0eYCXRISoxwW48ZQyPtJ4RA6yMFaQWqle3dCE9njlV0McVk8twFCWFm3lo6dH7Hd7s7ArLFxNwmsNplVxyJokjH8W7olYHnr8TGEFqEbX/GZoGxSd0nLf6KQXPEyAEm+IMoHIjUEeKj4HrKDFeN8XJAyiuM3A=; Message-ID: <206690.27957.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NBN5UEoVM1nYxfNRXXtWheZxUJ68gDOxrIkUTGIJZ9HYshDvT0q8AGBweJ5qmwgwi3lmph4aKvOzOMhWs69xVuy78.qH50Do6seF6mnrTvFt0BmJOTJHthZ8_aM969MYbfcpoHoa4ggtdITxr4MeeGSmPucV78sK8NG787hlcRplfcLc1pB.GRmuIQVv1sRWGYPOuBtGLSQK7zh3bJ8sDEwzwlVn6UO4Xe5sTeFzuCtb4CZ_U7xu8GIoQ3cHOCaHB.K5R1tTt8CS7BryjHdIKyi.pjvPpujjcLtwyjYluqYWngJ0Eh7CAlep4oaIvrIijmDuRk_Xqk7eZpIzCVo4LA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:00:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: hey there is a new Repeater!!!! To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:00:28 +0000 (UTC) http://www.tcelectronic.com/novarepeater.asp From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 20:12:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 706233BE87; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 345 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:12:45 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mrD4TC4/OWRBLMDY3BW1ZNGFsywHz7g1mJ04VcPWVCg=; b=pkCgfLCbyFMsjayVYOQ27XTJuLk9ymfk0t97g8um79yFyYiHxAsKWVmrp2Iy3eAntd J031+cm957bDOOoaHWbIYyTwBzV0Iou9zyAHOmv/jdnz9AQx7QvBzOCc9Q7pajrnHEOI InFLeEuxyBM6I1P8Ivl81TBlPA6LIJXueLskQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tc9upPPmYstWMsbL8R0ic8Q4MukSRdCqwpIAmXcEbvfktrmhihs5EZUNCs0qYy81e0 Tt9L/bBQd13TOo3bfA7Tmi/PIlKvsifCnZxEeS8m55cwPecEQ9kVEKnAWADe/LaFz3rS eu8KC/dh0Mhxml9X7tbDPlESaGdI2Gz0r5iko= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:06:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: echoplex for sale From: andy soto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1eb70acefe8046683db94 Resent-Message-ID: <_zYriB.A.SdE.-q80JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:12:46 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd1eb70acefe8046683db94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I'm putting my last EDP for sale. it is the OBERHEIM (white version) with loop III and no memory upgrades.I don't have the footswitch, It has some scratches on the paint but otherwise it works OK. I'm asking 350=80 (that's 350 EUROS) I'm located in Paris, France. Thank you, Andy --000e0cd1eb70acefe8046683db94 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


=A0Hi I'm putting my last EDP fo= r sale. it is the OBERHEIM (white version) with loop III and no memory upgr= ades.I don't have the footswitch, It has some scratches on the paint bu= t otherwise it works OK.=A0 I'm asking 350=80 (that's 350 EUROS) I&= #39;m located in Paris, France.

=A0Thank you,

=A0Andy

--000e0cd1eb70acefe8046683db94-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 20:42:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 376083BE80; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:42:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=gf6B6q9fiVNX18bn+9wyeqaJYd2p3bnZgvFTqfcAiAdbT32F02qkaMRw91Cago5rVZfNIHVPuckMNM/oM/3DbdYfGPXVWr2kTH3Myc8jXSZHbz5t57tL/k4RpBLMZte0p++sYJe85A5gYTxLlJ5601vEXL8h0Cyho5Gxs07AiOY= ; X-YMail-OSG: 08OMlEEVM1l.vFHiAl3KdYuL_WQdFiI_sEkTvvtRt6Vtx7PnsKz5umfsE2ghwqapnSUkWWzuOfeZx9jp0fi_yyVWGLQh2oVJmDnly0L2Erx5LLLdT3VNzioYvQRxIYY2BfpvwE5T0l1dVl.olOcPjw622g3C4SzMSB4ovwyJdvKASyNSc9fnEynkteXJxkxJH8uB0j9Z08ivGUfvargEfX52WD4GTV7B0Hqwsijv390j4uuvfj_NJFm6FAzxKAQ1ekLR3SpCfEfL_EyTu9G1zekziNhK5PjUNGHVGgcNa1W664hrN91LJIA- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49D3752B.3060905@mhorse.com> References: <49D3752B.3060905@mhorse.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-465846528 Message-Id: <9A33CC49-AF3C-44F6-9B9A-7E2B6BDF48E3@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Ustream Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 21:42:47 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:42:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-465846528 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Have any of you tried ustream live webcasting? - seems ideal for live looping.... Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com --Apple-Mail-1-465846528 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Have any of you tried ustream live webcasting? - seems ideal for live = looping....

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com



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= --Apple-Mail-1-465846528-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 21:17:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAF713BE82; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 21:17:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <3eb801bea2dee31bf081f2e3fca44317.squirrel@www.cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <20090401103145.13B1B3BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090401103145.13B1B3BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival announced From: looppool@cruzio.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 21:17:39 +0000 (UTC) I just wanted to announce plans for the Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival and the opening of Only 50 artists will be accepted and we have grants to pay all travelling expenses and a $2,000 performance fee for each artist accepted. Only really, really excellent artists will be picked. People who are just excited by looping and wanting to attend because of a love of community and the support of their peers are encouraged NOT to apply. You folks can just sit at home and wish you were at the event, which will be simulcast, by the way, on all major network television for the duration. Set lengths will be 60 minutes long and each artist will have 60 minute full volume soundchecks. There will be full catering in the hospitality tent at the Billagio with no Brown M&Ms in the mixed candy dishes. The Roland Corporation will be sponsoring the entire event and Laptop/Software users will not be eligible because, as we all know, software live looping isn't REALLY live looping now, is it? Okee dokee, see you on the strip. Please send all applications to Kim Flint c/o Loopers Delight From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 21:24:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 573993BE89; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 21:24:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.26.134] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <20090401103145.13B1B3BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> <3eb801bea2dee31bf081f2e3fca44317.squirrel@www.cruzio.com> Subject: Re: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival announced Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:24:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-15"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2009 21:24:04.0496 (UTC) FILETIME=[2EEDE100:01C9B310] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 21:24:05 +0000 (UTC) Ha hah! You had me going Rick! Cruel man. And I was ready to apply, until I read the last part on laptops. I need to play at another festival, but with the cost of flights, etc, the long trips aren't economical. Vegas would be a cool place for a festival! Why doesn't someone do the real thing? I'll be there in an instant. Vegas is cheap right now. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 3:17 PM Subject: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival announced >I just wanted to announce plans for the Las Vegas International Live > Looping Festival > and the opening of > > > Only 50 artists will be accepted and we have grants to pay all travelling > expenses > and a $2,000 performance fee for each artist accepted. > > Only really, really excellent artists will be picked. > > People who are just excited by looping and wanting to attend because of a > love > of community and the support of their peers are encouraged NOT to apply. > You folks can just sit at home and wish you were at the event, which will > be > simulcast, by the way, on all major network television for the duration. > > Set lengths will be 60 minutes long and each artist will have 60 minute > full volume > soundchecks. > > There will be full catering in the hospitality tent at the Billagio with > no Brown M&Ms > in the mixed candy dishes. > > The Roland Corporation will be sponsoring the entire event > and Laptop/Software users will not be eligible because, as we all know, > software > live looping isn't REALLY live looping now, is it? > > Okee dokee, see you on the strip. > > Please send all applications to Kim Flint c/o Loopers Delight > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 1 21:28:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10F133BE85; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 21:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 374 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:28:39 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hDe/POJX96WnJHzcR2lvLKrUrP+ap5a7U5yLNgn5RLg=; b=epkyxFynAEl/gAbsYzMcvCFKv43IZWwtQ/rt4vU19SO4kMz/wOUzj5kcYFVINGRud2 McsOSzoEvikkuYix9uJM9pBF+XeSnbyUV9OUOb7OOW3hKc7dX/6tEqjmj+wSA+j/YVYf WpnLTnCVzk0iDsE9xZ0PVM9YrcS2rri6nFeDs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Kt18aa9yM0V/m30IgYkZDFzEHh+0sFvRMF0RA+RABoDteTCY97cbM3wYeIMHuoFDCk Iudreysn+YMFu6bTY/9uBTeSPFC8KwjWyx5ZuuF6Wm5enqqx00Nx24fQBwSPvWBtr7eY lziO0D3xC/sO5RzMeVJQz4pidr5qp3MyYt068= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3eb801bea2dee31bf081f2e3fca44317.squirrel@www.cruzio.com> References: <20090401103145.13B1B3BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> <3eb801bea2dee31bf081f2e3fca44317.squirrel@www.cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:22:25 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival announced From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255762ca723def046684e971 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 21:28:39 +0000 (UTC) --0003255762ca723def046684e971 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You're a bad man, Mr. Walker ... *GRIN ... (and I was all set to send an email ... Lost Wages isn't that far a drive from up here on The High Plains. Best to all on this Day of Fools Dennis "Loopin' in Laramie ... YeeeeHaw!" On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 3:17 PM, wrote: > I just wanted to announce plans for the Las Vegas International Live > Looping Festival > and the opening of > > > Only 50 artists will be accepted and we have grants to pay all travelling > expenses > and a $2,000 performance fee for each artist accepted. > > Only really, really excellent artists will be picked. > > People who are just excited by looping and wanting to attend because of a > love > of community and the support of their peers are encouraged NOT to apply. > You folks can just sit at home and wish you were at the event, which will > be > simulcast, by the way, on all major network television for the duration. > > Set lengths will be 60 minutes long and each artist will have 60 minute > full volume > soundchecks. > > There will be full catering in the hospitality tent at the Billagio with > no Brown M&Ms > in the mixed candy dishes. > > The Roland Corporation will be sponsoring the entire event > and Laptop/Software users will not be eligible because, as we all know, > software > live looping isn't REALLY live looping now, is it? > > Okee dokee, see you on the strip. > > Please send all applications to Kim Flint c/o Loopers Delight > > > > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --0003255762ca723def046684e971 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You're a bad man, Mr. Walker ... *GRIN ...

(and I was all set to= send an email ... Lost Wages isn't that far a drive from up here on Th= e High Plains.

Best to all on this Day of Fools

Dennis "= Loopin' in Laramie ... YeeeeHaw!"

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 3:17 PM, <looppool@cruzio.com= > wrote:
I just wanted to announce plans for the Las Vegas International Live
Looping Festival
and the opening of


Only 50 artists will be accepted and we have grants to pay all travelling expenses
and a $2,000 performance fee for each artist accepted.

Only really, really excellent artists will be picked.

People who are just excited by looping and wanting to attend because of a love
of community and the support of their peers are encouraged NOT to apply. You folks can just sit at home and wish you were at the event, which will b= e
simulcast, by the way, =A0on all major network television for the duration.=

Set lengths will be 60 minutes long and each artist will have 60 minute
full volume
soundchecks.

There will be full catering in the hospitality tent at the Billagio with no Brown M&Ms
in the mixed candy dishes.

The Roland Corporation will be sponsoring the entire event
and Laptop/Software users will not be eligible because, =A0as we all know,<= br> software
live looping isn't REALLY live looping now, is it?

Okee dokee, =A0see you on the strip.

Please send all applications to Kim Flint c/o =A0Loopers Delight







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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 00:58:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70C013BE7C; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:58:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <3eb801bea2dee31bf081f2e3fca44317.squirrel@www.cruzio.com> References: <20090401103145.13B1B3BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> <3eb801bea2dee31bf081f2e3fca44317.squirrel@www.cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival announced Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:58:05 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:58:11 +0000 (UTC) Heheheheheh . . . Even if this hadn't been April 1st . . . and by some weird quirk of the cosmos this was actually real . . . I can hardly think of town I'd be less interested in going to . . . for any reason whatsoever (let alone a loop show) . . . than Las Vegas, Nevada. Thank goodness Santa Cruz is the center of the West Coast looping universe . . . actually a cool place to visit. Loop on! Ted n Apr 1, 2009, at 2:17 PM, looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > I just wanted to announce plans for the Las Vegas International Live > Looping Festival > and the opening of > > > Only 50 artists will be accepted and we have grants to pay all > travelling > expenses > and a $2,000 performance fee for each artist accepted. > > Only really, really excellent artists will be picked. > > People who are just excited by looping and wanting to attend because > of a > love > of community and the support of their peers are encouraged NOT to > apply. > You folks can just sit at home and wish you were at the event, which > will be > simulcast, by the way, on all major network television for the > duration. > > Set lengths will be 60 minutes long and each artist will have 60 minute > full volume > soundchecks. > > There will be full catering in the hospitality tent at the Billagio > with > no Brown M&Ms > in the mixed candy dishes. > > The Roland Corporation will be sponsoring the entire event > and Laptop/Software users will not be eligible because, as we all > know, > software > live looping isn't REALLY live looping now, is it? > > Okee dokee, see you on the strip. > > Please send all applications to Kim Flint c/o Loopers Delight > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 01:08:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E3243BE80; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lIFaHgSO2ffRDL6K2RjBa8QfwawDXdfE60RACLxUPOo=; b=cFN2wc2h7YSc4iUrT6R4t9KoTTlyi8eYU+lqZOWgzBl2R8P2kRiEOhIYhiwaORDZBF 2Tqr18zSyQIG+drkFPtQPKIzK8a2WX6rwa23/cqIA2wrFt+6Ka0vqarNd/iC3dYRdvi/ U8v1XDjxzsM8zOZC+WdQmJxr/2h05fjyKGlsQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qC+koClLLX+Dn17IczNC8+68dBuAvfpPXlpPsem6kKVjIKsxXUUSBDIS2ACOWrO2bo Mzg0YtxGXTprSlMsHO/ByKLnfDZWdgqUOQvOLNaauhQ0eGWyjdc6y8vCpXJw/sHfYaa8 GndZuJfIRSlK5P5LHlhyQyenzumFQMM9bvCXU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20090401103145.13B1B3BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> <3eb801bea2dee31bf081f2e3fca44317.squirrel@www.cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:08:21 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival announced From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c1778750fcd046688118e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:08:22 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c1778750fcd046688118e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable f**kin' ... here fools day it's december 28th ... i kill you rick :-) 2009/4/2, tEd =AE KiLLiAn : > > Heheheheheh . . . > > Even if this hadn't been April 1st . . . and by some weird quirk of the > cosmos this was actually real . . . I can hardly think of town I'd be les= s > interested in going to . . . for any reason whatsoever (let alone a loop > show) . . . than Las Vegas, Nevada. > > Thank goodness Santa Cruz is the center of the West Coast looping univers= e > . . . actually a cool place to visit. > > Loop on! > > Ted > > n Apr 1, 2009, at 2:17 PM, looppool@cruzio.com wrote: > > I just wanted to announce plans for the Las Vegas International Live >> Looping Festival >> and the opening of >> >> >> Only 50 artists will be accepted and we have grants to pay all travellin= g >> expenses >> and a $2,000 performance fee for each artist accepted. >> >> Only really, really excellent artists will be picked. >> >> People who are just excited by looping and wanting to attend because of = a >> love >> of community and the support of their peers are encouraged NOT to apply. >> You folks can just sit at home and wish you were at the event, which wil= l >> be >> simulcast, by the way, on all major network television for the duration= . >> >> Set lengths will be 60 minutes long and each artist will have 60 minute >> full volume >> soundchecks. >> >> There will be full catering in the hospitality tent at the Billagio with >> no Brown M&Ms >> in the mixed candy dishes. >> >> The Roland Corporation will be sponsoring the entire event >> and Laptop/Software users will not be eligible because, as we all know, >> software >> live looping isn't REALLY live looping now, is it? >> >> Okee dokee, see you on the strip. >> >> Please send all applications to Kim Flint c/o Loopers Delight >> >> >> >> >> > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0015174c1778750fcd046688118e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable f**kin' ... here fools day it's december 28th ... i kill you rick := -)

2009/4/2, tEd =AE KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>:
Heheheheheh . . .

Even if this hadn't been April 1st . . . and by some weird quirk of the= cosmos this was actually real . . . I can hardly think of town I'd be = less interested in going to . . . for any reason whatsoever (let alone a lo= op show) . . . than Las Vegas, Nevada.

Thank goodness Santa Cruz is the center of the West Coast looping universe = . . . actually a cool place to visit.

Loop on!

Ted


n Apr 1, 2009, at 2:17 PM, looppool@= cruzio.com wrote:

I just wanted to announce plans for the Las Vegas International Live
Looping Festival
and the opening of


Only 50 artists will be accepted and we have grants to pay all travelling expenses
and a $2,000 performance fee for each artist accepted.

Only really, really excellent artists will be picked.

People who are just excited by looping and wanting to attend because of a love
of community and the support of their peers are encouraged NOT to apply. You folks can just sit at home and wish you were at the event, which will b= e
simulcast, by the way, =A0on all major network television for the duration.=

Set lengths will be 60 minutes long and each artist will have 60 minute
full volume
soundchecks.

There will be full catering in the hospitality tent at the Billagio with no Brown M&Ms
in the mixed candy dishes.

The Roland Corporation will be sponsoring the entire event
and Laptop/Software users will not be eligible because, =A0as we all know,<= br> software
live looping isn't REALLY live looping now, is it?

Okee dokee, =A0see you on the strip.

Please send all applications to Kim Flint c/o =A0Loopers Delight








--
Raul Bonel= l at Blogger: http://raulbonell.= blogspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
--0015174c1778750fcd046688118e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 01:12:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C0863BE7C; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:12:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YCU1IVQhypQAPII77vwNm9W3zKxUBBMlYDgEYuIQcIM=; b=OsUKaB6coFUXsBz+2CsLhlW0/SWUzZewR4y9V3iQfNk0d9MlcYLrJvxj4thICV7zfM wRWVDmLbIDMm2oXKE0QciamH8MhViBWSuPRx0EFhkm4G6zqJGQvGpIJfhO/N/X95YnW2 PeJ2YX2k5O7g9LbQ8Ams1p9tQuSPOhyGdVR/8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iVS0th13tiPlWz2xLUdsNUIMl6HKrUbOvTxTrngwrKONWMFd8oY/sB1nQ4mVzd1PIc VW6EnEnMPHNrxGN9/kx0LI8JauZluNWXyeMv5clF3EeafMYizf0APqWmaf4ABrDx7vpJ xJRkc0ND2hVI8s132zoUPGvh33dAu3DVd0Uc0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0904010941g50b81efcjc3ddc2e92bc3bf45@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0904010941g50b81efcjc3ddc2e92bc3bf45@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:12:58 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Firewire vs USB (WAS: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c10a0f3e1bd04668821f3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:12:59 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c10a0f3e1bd04668821f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i simply love you rainer! ... better than wikis... 2009/4/1, Rainer Straschill : > > Daryl asked: > > USB cables can also carry power, would you suppose that that the same > risk applies? > > USB uses much lower voltage and power - to be more precise: > > USB has 5V of power supply, with the signal lines being in the 0-1V > range. However, pulling signal lines high is used to signal the > transfer speed, so there is a good chance that shorting the 5V power > line with one of the signal lines will not damage the interface > circuit. Also typical semiconductor technology voltage ranges are well > above that, but I don't know whether CMOS input stages are used. > > The case is different with Firewire; here, the power supply is > specified at 25V (more specifically: 24 -1/+5V), however, a lot of > laptops only supply their DC supply here. Still, that voltage is > something that could damage your input circuit if a short between the > power supply lines and the signal lines happened. > > Solution: use USB. Or use 4-pin Firewire connectors. Or don't use > computers at all ;) > > > Rainer > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0015174c10a0f3e1bd04668821f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i simply love you rainer! ... better than wikis...

2009/4/1, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com>:
Daryl asked:
> USB cables can also carry power, would you suppose th= at that the same risk applies?

USB uses much lower voltage and pow= er - to be more precise:

USB has 5V of power supply, with the sign= al lines being in the 0-1V
range. However, pulling signal lines high is used to signal the
transf= er speed, so there is a good chance that shorting the 5V power
line wit= h one of the signal lines will not damage the interface
circuit. Also t= ypical semiconductor technology voltage ranges are well
above that, but I don't know whether CMOS input stages are used.
<= br> The case is different with Firewire; here, the power supply is
spec= ified at 25V (more specifically: 24 -1/+5V), however, a lot of
laptops = only supply their DC supply here. Still, that voltage is
something that could damage your input circuit if a short between the
= power supply lines and the signal lines happened.

Solution: use US= B. Or use 4-pin Firewire connectors. Or don't use
computers at all = ;)


=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Rainer




--
Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
C= hain Tape Collective: http://www.c= t-collective.com
--0015174c10a0f3e1bd04668821f3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 01:35:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3B3B3BE73; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <25081.69.73.1238636127.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 21:35:27 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Help with mixer-interface-laptop setup From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Rainer, Thanks for the feedback. I took your advice and went through piece by piece. The Edirol has some really small switches on the back to disable monitoring,and I had flipped the wrong one. So I was still hearing both signals. Working great now. Thanks again, Andre On Wed, April 1, 2009 12:51 pm, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Andre, > > from your description it's hard to judge your problem properly, so I try: > > You have your signal source (whichever) connected to some input of > your mixer. Some output of your mixer goes to your audio interface, > and the interfaces goes back into your mixer. Then the mixer goes to > some kind of PA/headphones/whatever. > > When you play your source signal into the mixer, you hear it through > your PA and also some kind of slapback version of it (not phaser-kind, > more like a slapback). > > It's most probable that your interface or your computer software sends > your source signal back to the mixer. To try that, why don't you > connect your source signal to your audio interface, the interface to > the PA and see if you can hear the originall source signal. If that is > the case, then the interface is the problem. > > Some more throughout description of your setup (what is patched into > what, what software are you using etc.) could also help. > > Best, > > Rainer > > Andre Donawa Barbados Guitar School Woodside Gardens Bay St. St. Michael Barbados 11157 Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) 246 436 8294 (School) http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 01:45:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B65DA3BE81; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <79508357-6276-4A9E-97D8-CD9571DECCFA@glasswing.com> From: richard sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <621673.51897.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-484009348 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: OT: subwoofer? Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:45:30 -0700 References: <621673.51897.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: <4pkrnC.A.zhE.EjB1JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:45:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-484009348 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Thunderbolt kicks serious butt if you want that Pagey tone. Made by Valco - my most favored amp maker of all times. They made the Magnatone (213) that I love so much. If you're seriously interested in this amp, you should write Terry Dobbs - the reigning expert on these amps. I think he might have a Silvertone version of the same amp for sale for much less. And I guarantee it will sound at least as good as a Thunderbolt. Here's his email address. Check out his site www.valcoamp.com terry@valcoamp.com Great guy. A master of amp restoration and... affordable! And he can authoritatively answer all questions Valco/Supro/Magnatone etc. To all: Sorry to have been out to lunch. Producing second record for Hayley for Universal Music now. Studio experiencing huge upheavals, upgrades, eyeballs blazing from too many manuals, hair gone curly from leaking molten grey matter. Recorded bass and drums in Seattle at Jason from Deathcab for Cutie's studio. Played their spooky upright piano. Cool. Loads of new fancy toys here. The Leaning Tower of Visa is casting a long shadow these days!!! Walking the highwire! Having a blast. Miss reading all the good stuff here. Will check in occasionally. your devotee richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On Mar 28, 2009, at 5:23 PM, scott hansen wrote: > just a followup- > i was looking through my last vintage guitar magazine, and there was > an article on > supro amps, supposedly the amp jimmy page used on 1st led zep album > was a > model S6420 Thunderbolt bass amp-35 watts, 15" speaker, volume & > tone knob. > > i was of course looking on-line at other sources and there seems to > be a lot of debate > on this, different supro amp possibly used, etc or some other > similar variation.... > so, i'm no expert on zep sound, but it sounds like an interesting > amp... > > for me a 10 watt amp w/ a 15" speaker sounds good and interesting > for my uses.... > oh well... > s--- > ps-i'm not sure if the page supro counts as cheap, the listings say > it can range from 800-1300$ depending on things... > --Apple-Mail-5-484009348 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Thunderbolt kicks serious = butt if you want that Pagey tone.  Made by Valco - my most favored = amp maker of all times.  They made the Magnatone (213) that I love = so much.   If you're seriously interested in this amp, you should = write Terry Dobbs - the reigning expert on these amps.  I think he = might have a Silvertone version of the same amp for sale for much less. =  And I guarantee it will sound at least as good as a Thunderbolt. =  Here's his email address.  Check out his site www.valcoamp.com

<= a = href=3D"mailto:terry@valcoamp.com">terry@valcoamp.com

Great guy.  A master of amp restoration and... affordable! = And he can authoritatively answer all questions Valco/Supro/Magnatone = etc. 

To all:
Sorry to have been out = to lunch.  Producing second record for Hayley for Universal Music = now.  Studio experiencing huge upheavals, upgrades, eyeballs = blazing from too many manuals, hair gone curly from leaking molten grey = matter.  Recorded bass and drums in Seattle at Jason from Deathcab = for Cutie's studio.  Played their spooky upright piano.  Cool. =  

Loads of new fancy toys here.  The = Leaning Tower of Visa is casting a long shadow these days!!! =   

Walking the highwire!  Having = a blast.

Miss reading all the good stuff here. =  Will check in occasionally.

your = devotee
 
richard sales
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
=


On Mar 28, 2009, at 5:23 = PM, scott hansen wrote:

just a followup-
=
i was looking through my last vintage guitar magazine, and there = was an article on
supro amps, supposedly the amp jimmy page = used on 1st led zep album was a
model S6420 Thunderbolt bass = amp-35 watts, 15" speaker, volume & tone knob.
=
 
i was of course looking on-line at other sources = and there seems to be a lot of debate
on this, different = supro amp possibly used, etc or some other similar variation....
=
so, i'm no expert on zep sound, but it sounds like an interesting = amp...
 
for me a 10 watt amp w/ a 15" = speaker sounds good and interesting for my uses....
oh = well...
s---
ps-i'm not sure if the page supro = counts as cheap, the listings say it can range from 800-1300$ depending = on things...

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= --Apple-Mail-5-484009348-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 01:58:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 519843BE84; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <614883EB-D59A-4481-825B-C18141242C66@batterycage.com> From: tyler newman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090402014541.32CEB3BE85@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: digitech RP1000 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:54:48 -0700 References: <20090402014541.32CEB3BE85@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: <44VGxC.A.KbF.8uB1JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:58:20 +0000 (UTC) hi- although this thing is pretty new, i'm wondering if anyone has used the looper inside the Digitech RP1000. according to Digitech, it has a 20 second looper built in, with overdub etc etc. i haven't been using my Repeater much lately, but i use my RP250 daily. so i'm sort of wondering if i should just get the RP1000 and sell off the Repeater... any thoughts? - tyler / informatik From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 04:25:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D74FD3BE7F; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 04:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival announced Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 21:24:55 -0700 Message-ID: <26D3B810FCB84A3E89D36C44C1DD1570@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01C9B310.50ECBAB0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcmzSvniOiv3L5iNQIeqepYtBEgzWQ== Resent-Message-ID: <3BTBnC.A.IYF.e4D1JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 04:25:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C9B310.50ECBAB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, this sounds like my kind of looping festival, the kind that I can demand a lengthy contract stipulation from. Lets get started, 1.Guests, I'll have plenty, so instead of giving me a set number of comps, just let everyone in free who tells the doorman that they are friends of Chillyb. 2. Perks, I really want to see the Star Trek Experience, and Siegfried and Roy, if they ever start up again, Cirque de Soliel , and the Liberace museum, Oh I almost forgot, is "Wicked" still playing? I think you could arrange to make that happen. 3. Whores, sorry If I offend you, the few women who populate this list, but Vegas has 'em, and I want 'em, Please don't forward this e-mail to my wife, she wouldn't understand. 4. Hey I like to gamble as much as the next guy, how about setting me up at a roulette table in the Picasso room at the Bellagio 5. Catering, a dressing room full of ordinary cold cuts will be trashed, so be warned. Wow me. 6. Payment in full in advance. 7. Penthouse suite, I want a view, end of story 8. A body guard, masseuse (see #3), and personal "pharmaceutical" valet 9. A Hummer with quad sound system to cruise the strip in. Well I guess that just about does it, my lawyer will be drafting a contract in the morning. Thanks Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C9B310.50ECBAB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey, this sounds like my kind of looping festival, = the kind that I can demand a lengthy contract stipulation = from.

Lets get started,

1.Guests, I’ll have plenty, so instead of = giving me a set number of comps, just let everyone in free who tells the doorman = that they are friends of Chillyb.

2. = Perks, I really want to see the Star Trek Experience, and Siegfried and Roy, if they = ever start up again, Cirque de Soliel , and the Liberace museum, Oh I almost = forgot, is “Wicked” still playing?

    I think you could arrange to make that = happen.

3. Whores, sorry If I offend you, the few women who = populate this list,  but Vegas has ‘em, and I want ‘em, Please = don’t forward this e-mail to my wife, she wouldn’t = understand.

4. Hey I like to gamble as much as the next guy, how = about setting me up at a roulette table in the Picasso room at the = Bellagio

5. Catering, a dressing room full of ordinary cold = cuts will be trashed, so be warned. Wow me.

6. Payment in full in = advance.

7. Penthouse suite, I want a view, end of = story

8. A body guard, masseuse (see #3),  and = personal “pharmaceutical” valet

9. A Hummer with quad sound system to cruise the = strip in.

Well I guess that just about does it, my lawyer will = be drafting a contract in the morning.

 Thanks

Bill

------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C9B310.50ECBAB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 06:34:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 249FA3BE7C; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 06:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_89052a9f-9044-4e13-b103-6537f9a683e7_" X-Originating-IP: [75.121.190.181] From: J Johans To: Subject: RE: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival announced Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:34:34 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <26D3B810FCB84A3E89D36C44C1DD1570@williamsteed> References: <26D3B810FCB84A3E89D36C44C1DD1570@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Apr 2009 06:34:34.0023 (UTC) FILETIME=[160FBB70:01C9B35D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 06:34:35 +0000 (UTC) --_89052a9f-9044-4e13-b103-6537f9a683e7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable please forgive bill.... he clearly forgot items 10 through 13.... it must be the meds 11. no blue M&M's..... 12. an 18" version of stonehendge... 13. a life size ice sculpture made in his image.... that urinates whiskey..= . =3DD fro From: billwalker@baymoon.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival announced Date: Wed=2C 1 Apr 2009 21:24:55 -0700 Hey=2C this sounds like my kind of looping festival=2C the kind that I can demand a lengthy contract stipulation from. Lets get started=2C 1.Guests=2C I=92ll have plenty=2C so instead of giving me a set number of comps=2C just let everyone in free who tells the doorman that= they are friends of Chillyb. 2. Perks=2C I really want to see the Star Trek Experience=2C and Siegfried and Roy=2C if they ev= er start up again=2C Cirque de Soliel =2C and the Liberace museum=2C Oh I almost for= got=2C is =93Wicked=94 still playing?=20 I think you could arrange to make that happen. 3. Whores=2C sorry If I offend you=2C the few women who populate this list=2C but Vegas has =91em=2C and I want =91em=2C Please don=92t forward this e-mail to my wife=2C she wouldn=92t understand. 4. Hey I like to gamble as much as the next guy=2C how about setting me up at a roulette table in the Picasso room at the Bellagio 5. Catering=2C a dressing room full of ordinary cold cuts will be trashed=2C so be warned. Wow me. 6. Payment in full in advance. 7. Penthouse suite=2C I want a view=2C end of story 8. A body guard=2C masseuse (see #3)=2C and personal =93pharmaceutical=94 valet 9. A Hummer with quad sound system to cruise the strip in. Well I guess that just about does it=2C my lawyer will be drafting a contract in the morning. Thanks Bill _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_042009= --_89052a9f-9044-4e13-b103-6537f9a683e7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable please forgive bill....
he clearly forgot items 10 through 13.... it mus= t be the meds
11. no blue M&=3BM's.....
12. an 18" version of ston= ehendge...
13. a life size ice sculpture made in his image.... that urin= ates whiskey...

=3DD
fro

From: bil= lwalker@baymoon.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: = Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival announced
Date: Wed=2C 1 A= pr 2009 21:24:55 -0700

Hey=2C this sounds like my kind of = looping festival=2C the kind that I can demand a lengthy contract stipulation from.

Lets get started=2C

1.Guests=2C I=92ll have plenty=2C s= o instead of giving me a set number of comps=2C just let everyone in free who tells the doorman that= they are friends of Chillyb.

2. Perks=2C I really want to see the Star Trek Experience=2C and Siegfried and Roy=2C if they ev= er start up again=2C Cirque de Soliel =2C and the Liberace museum=2C Oh I almost for= got=2C is =93Wicked=94 still playing?

 =3B =3B =3B I think you could arrange to make that happen.

3. Whores=2C sorry If I offend you= =2C the few women who populate this list=2C  =3Bbut Vegas has =91em=2C and I want =91em=2C Please don= =92t forward this e-mail to my wife=2C she wouldn=92t understand.<= /p>

4. Hey I like to gamble as much as = the next guy=2C how about setting me up at a roulette table in the Picasso room at the Bellagio

5. Catering=2C a dressing room full= of ordinary cold cuts will be trashed=2C so be warned. Wow me.

6. Payment in full in advance.

7. Penthouse suite=2C I want a view= =2C end of story

8. A body guard=2C masseuse (see #3= )=2C  =3Band personal =93pharmaceutical=94 valet

9. A Hummer with quad sound system = to cruise the strip in.

Well I guess that just about does i= t=2C my lawyer will be drafting a contract in the morning.

 =3BThanks

Bill


Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. = --_89052a9f-9044-4e13-b103-6537f9a683e7_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 07:02:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8E023BE79; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238655768; bh=XF01jSN/z/LewiBImUkdcide21cqT6aKWQfm7y9pQL8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ml3etHNT9vBg0pqzmUjAMThJ0bnbYvsnm5DAhRPXSuW07fnEyh0ee6qJ21mq9lsdwY6R3Di3v5wkGC9cza0imon4t89ttxKTLJkwxchEEMiKYYL659nZJsKuY4oQNW+0PtzScdRIR1lAQFEjEzYxcaVrNx++cJEB4tRnD55tVJE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ourkm33PXwqqktIa4caVDUcdmdQFULx/5lJ3t01I1G1N/G3jxJZsy5HZnwBywZn3LTyjMEch7Qb3vNDDnhZ4WmjZD30NcrGPcmkVRNKl2j85BwBqtQoGnbXVjkiyHejFmVJDcgveCLQcXJc8QiEM+DTzDJgNLT8j/LQ0fcxy9fg=; Message-ID: <798822.66032.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ec_aoukVM1kF9htbCMLxLEiklZpSss5VIxB8OL5OVpcRoWTetYmA1hMw8qN2nyIrEYfpT17WR4JPcITUr2g6NYoSVrybttO4JF_M2yzbU0Ui0jQFXqdei1xYXPYpwXWYVDtpzUQoe8d_BqGaC839ZamUcxrnjiAq8dUHMh2cx5CDBqi4PzYxcRftkS7ZWuTSu7gww07Ea57f1KqKTXZ4Dm9MCnwRjHbXC1B1hmKOCQvyDuxYEF.OILlkUvANbwCESJ5.8rbrgwV9HwIhhEEuXFOiBxgdx6RjG5a6QoCu7YTe16vpD3L1SdKN3w-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.15 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:02:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Gary Numan Synths To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:02:49 +0000 (UTC) hey fellows,=0AWhat kind of synths did Gary Numan used in the 80=B4s?from a= ll the bands back then they always stood up,they sounded different from oth= er synth bands they to me they sounded like the les paul of synths very fat= !=0Ahere is one of my favorites:=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQeIa= FXRhXtE&feature=3Drelated=0A=0AI always loved the fact that he had guitar o= riented riffs on synths,i remember the first time i heard his voice i thoug= ht it was the new Syd Barret!=0A=0ALuis=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom= =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 07:09:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 477263BE81; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=byJk34h8w91Q4TH3h77Hg1Gn3Z00d+ba8rUe6d9WIo8=; b=mYEsr3iHaGVyYipEIETNtNeCBcv+DVhTWPZlmiznvefGX602W44qVcfYwqnv2ty94h dnRWiqBGEn+ciogpLgL5gUJXBllE7sJ+G00LQTNDfRus2X7YY1oUvgj1YphYW7ot828Y ffzeKuFubgRR+w0VDbY72oLCNQJSaQYz2sUAA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=i6kgMzhlk8N3Z69Boj27mxd9ShrNea4/IxxJkGIBnO8CsXB7qZZfkfG/Owxaok1b1s E+0f9FFBmPKZMMpWyhv5xqFh8hsrgpUwfi82lKUpXE9J2mdAebdUL+gvAZIAHqj+/BFM Ro87/78Q321LVUMWDGFF99UFXLuhJB947bdpc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <798822.66032.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <798822.66032.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:09:00 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gary Numan Synths From: Michael Billow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ef07c41557104668d1be6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:09:01 +0000 (UTC) --0016364ef07c41557104668d1be6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dam, I always loved that song. Thanx, I never even knew there was a video for it. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:02 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > > hey fellows, > What kind of synths did Gary Numan used in the 80=B4s?from all the bands = back > then they always stood up,they sounded different from other synth bands t= hey > to me they sounded like the les paul of synths very fat! > here is one of my favorites: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQeIaFXRhXtE&feature=3Drelated > > I always loved the fact that he had guitar oriented riffs on synths,i > remember the first time i heard his voice i thought it was the new Syd > Barret! > > Luis > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > --0016364ef07c41557104668d1be6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dam, I always loved that song. Thanx, I never even knew there was a video f= or it.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:02 AM, L= .Angulo <labalo= ops@yahoo.com> wrote:

hey fellows,
What kind of synths did Gary Numan used in the 80=B4s?from all the bands ba= ck then they always stood up,they sounded different from other synth bands = they to me they sounded like the les paul of synths very fat!
here is one of my favorites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQeIaFXRhXtE&feat= ure=3Drelated

I always loved the fact that he had guitar oriented riffs on synths,i remem= ber the first time i heard his voice i thought it was the new Syd Barret!
Luis

www.mysp= ace.com/luisangulocom





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Or=0A> don't use=0A> computers at all ;)=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Rainer=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> -- =0A= > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com=0A> Chain Tape Col= lective: http://www.ct-collective.com=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 07:13:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76A9C3BE88; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238656426; bh=4zv0GQfKJCdbEK4wNwrx74H3L8gZyKTJ63QvDkYIgoI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IlNgAbMGw9hdOadKOBkM27bRrASM7mHRcEQM7GsKZev7n3F9Smpva5uf2ayVQ1QX9Gfm3nj4vHQgkOjQuSZ5/Mb4zAjXKcC+UKkKw8JTk08l4nJqUb88zSZ/t4oRY3TuTvbHqDuQnBs8zS+4KkZboyLTmJqwpZXiTbn2J+Yi69g= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:13:47 +0000 (UTC) shit i gotta get an RC-50 and some cowboy boots=0A=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/lui= sangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On Wed, 4/1/09, looppool@cruzio.com wrote:=0A=0A> From: looppool@cruzio.com =0A> Sub= ject: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival announced=0A> To: Loope= rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 2:17 PM= =0A> I just wanted to announce plans for=0A> the Las Vegas International Li= ve=0A> Looping Festival=0A> and the opening of=0A> =0A> =0A> Only 50 artist= s will be accepted and we have grants to pay=0A> all travelling=0A> expense= s=0A> and a $2,000 performance fee for each artist accepted.=0A> =0A> Only = really, really excellent artists will be picked.=0A> =0A> People who are ju= st excited by looping and wanting to=0A> attend because of a=0A> love=0A> o= f community and the support of their peers are encouraged=0A> NOT to apply.= =0A> You folks can just sit at home and wish you were at the=0A> event, whi= ch will be=0A> simulcast, by the way,=A0 on all major network=0A> televisio= n for the duration.=0A> =0A> Set lengths will be 60 minutes long and each a= rtist will=0A> have 60 minute=0A> full volume=0A> soundchecks.=0A> =0A> The= re will be full catering in the hospitality tent at the=0A> Billagio with= =0A> no Brown M&Ms=0A> in the mixed candy dishes.=0A> =0A> The Roland Corpo= ration will be sponsoring the entire event=0A> and Laptop/Software users wi= ll not be eligible=0A> because,=A0 as we all know,=A0 =0A> software=0A> liv= e looping isn't REALLY live looping now, is it?=0A> =0A> Okee dokee,=A0 see= you on the strip.=0A> =0A> Please send all applications to Kim Flint c/o= =A0 Loopers=0A> Delight=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 07:14:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F6893BE8D; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238656483; bh=UE5+4q03U42qiBsnXj5PWx4ET2qXz2s3Dph1vHQ6dL4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=npz0QK19ea3c0zF3pKlgEUissokWryjD42ahO7QtKCtgm8zw/0wMU/BcSNre9GDKy2JoR4ksnx5fAbkRSZXvj3MAaTuXtZmNSWWq1CQW+wKFGXS2s7yWaX7vXEFceZKOVtWtkBnmDzpArf4y0MOIVfan5qLFhZTAsj3Dk/W7i08= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZXAEP7XUWVYjF6LR5gFHjLNv6nSpcTBFm87Gwktg3QvgXP3rdMW9O+nY/YDC36r876StsTw9acqlMNTNRjuhmOd2ESoOvHzFBGxf95eW/jWSHBeT091Qob7Lp9ERKdgeKWQUQwpWWb7N8sdsfgoxPUehA8iw38JqC8KzHi7rcL0=; Message-ID: <348631.65713.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: _ZwJby4VM1mV0jonpoMDJSdyK2LzA7t0.r3JdJenKmGKAdY4rycSznkYXhbXUnK.vSa_TRWrIGd.W7JtmMsNgJuNItUmhKdSjJy0wqbs3.PiRc3mX2aAfB7a05A_9r9x80_B70wfZ8OIG.vX.V7mnlJXhmibH7Q4HpeXc0hKL8cnILLBRXrII3XT7YSQNR4WQAukuSc5h59LtHSBRtHF5LiLqG1.If21ztNoegKLM3tJWDLnOr2G3jU12M91UqdpXBtU12Fh61XNG_Ji_wnPeb1VvhuwXOCl87id0Kd9NqMjsFMMgVQ6qyXmtxDhNJhSNfOuIGpXi1PPxqhK7fz8RJKb3GJg2g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.15 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:14:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: echoplex for sale To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Porque Andy?=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On Wed, 4/1/09,= andy soto wrote:=0A=0A> From: andy soto =0A> Subject: echoplex for sale=0A> To: Loopers-Deligh= t@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 1:06 PM=0A> =0A> = =0A> =0A> =C2=A0Hi I'm putting my last EDP for sale. it is the=0A> OBERHEIM= (white version) with loop III and no memory=0A> upgrades.I don't have the = footswitch, It has some=0A> scratches on the paint but otherwise it works O= K.=C2=A0 I'm=0A> asking 350=E2=82=AC (that's 350 EUROS) I'm located in=0A> = Paris, France.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =C2=A0Thank you,=0A> =0A> =C2=A0Andy=0A> = =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 08:45:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 414AF3BE79; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 08:45:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=ZW3vrvvd2v80yP44SNUA:9 a=458KS2ZFQyDmdOJ9fnLz4AkDzu4A:4 a=bc-At0-sGGwA:10 Message-ID: <49D47B27.6030706@vtx.ch> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:45:27 +0200 From: Claude Voit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Gary Numan Synths References: <798822.66032.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <798822.66032.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 08:45:36 +0000 (UTC) thanks for reminding why I hated the 80's musik ark! Claude L.Angulo a =E9crit : > hey fellows, > What kind of synths did Gary Numan used in the 80=B4s?from all the band= s back then they always stood up,they sounded different from other synth = bands they to me they sounded like the les paul of synths very fat! > here is one of my favorites: >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQeIaFXRhXtE&feature=3Drelated >=20 > I always loved the fact that he had guitar oriented riffs on synths,i r= emember the first time i heard his voice i thought it was the new Syd Bar= ret! >=20 > Luis >=20 > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 09:03:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A1833BE7C; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:03:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <798822.66032.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <798822.66032.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:03:00 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Gary Numan Synths Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:03:06 +0000 (UTC) At 12:02 AM -0700 4/2/09, L.Angulo wrote: >hey fellows, What kind of synths did Gary Numan=20 >used in the 80=B4s?from all the bands back then=20 >they always stood up,they sounded different from=20 >other synth bands they to me they sounded like=20 >the les paul of synths very fat! here is one of=20 >my favorites:=20 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQeIaFXRhXtE&feature=3Drelated This era Numan was filled with classic analog.=20 In this video, the main synth shown is a good ol'=20 MiniMoog. Also, there's an Arp ProDGX (successor=20 to the Pro Soloist that you hear in a lot of prog=20 rock a few years before), which is sitting on, I=20 think, a PolyMoog. Numan's one of the only=20 artists I can think of who went in big for the=20 PolyMoog, and you can hear it in most of the main=20 synth lines from his hit "Cars". Otherwise, lots of Moogs and Arps, with a little=20 bit of Jupiter-era Roland thrown in. IIRC, the=20 liner notes for Telekon give a detailed kit list=20 for the synths used on each song. That would be=20 a good starting place for figuring out which=20 synths were kept in his arsenal around that time. >I always loved the fact that he had guitar oriented riffs on synths Ditto here. I first saw him on Saturday Night=20 Live performing "Cars" and was immediately=20 hooked. A few weeks later, I caught some concert=20 footage of "Down in the Park" on Don Kirschner's=20 Rock Concert, and I've been a pretty steadfast=20 Numan fan ever since. Thanks for the video pointer. That one's a keeper. :) --m. -- _____ "I want to keep you alive so there is always the=20 possibility of murder... later" From Filme-gratis@filme-gratis.co.cc Thu Apr 2 09:58:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1873 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 09:58:00 UTC Received: from acces.czone.ro (webmail.czone.ro [81.181.111.2]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADDC3BE71; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by acces.czone.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D6EA54187; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:26:39 +0300 (EEST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at czone.ro Received: from acces.czone.ro ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (acces.czone.ro [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uK-HOv6IT91z; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:26:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from User (host226-46-static.86-94-b.business.telecomitalia.it [94.86.46.226]) by acces.czone.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E108A5429E; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:24:13 +0300 (EEST) Reply-To: From: "Filme-gratis@filme-gratis.co.cc" Subject: Online Free Movies http://filme-gratis.co.cc WJPOVNGSNH Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:25:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-Id: <20090402092438.9E108A5429E@acces.czone.ro> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Unlimited Movie Downloads - No downloading limits, 24/7 access Get ready to enjoy your favourite TV shows, movies and unreleased music videos. 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That's not a ProDGX, but an Arp Omni produced around the same era. The button type fooled me, but when I could finally still-frame a shot with decent lighting, I got a good look at the actual button configuration. Nice little string machine, the Omni was. The keyboard player for my band back at university started out with one, before he traded it for one of the first Ensoniq Mirages. Sorry for the confusion. Carry on. --m. -- _____ "Image is blasphemy. Text is heresy. The spoken word is a lie." X <--- you are here. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 11:46:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B640B3BE85; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:46:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=bg/NGGQrH+CmHldJKJ2X07wT01pAukLJcHOHopDagxwCkgStMKrLwZUFI5FuxlPH; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <798822.66032.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <798822.66032.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:45:40 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Gary Numan Synths Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79d1ab582930e2563ef537887fd4743ac6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:46:56 +0000 (UTC) Gary Numan used a "Micro Korg" quite a bit on=20 the first few records, later he used the=20 "Polymoog Keyboard" a lower end version of the=20 standard Polymoog, but it featured the "Vox=20 Humana" preset which became his trademark soaring=20 melody sound (the initial highnotes on "Cars" is=20 the "Vox Humana" preset). As for "Are Friends Electric" , that's the Mini=20 Korg. The video shows someone playing a minimoog=20 (using two hands on the keyboard ..ha!), but=20 that's not what you are hearing, ditto for the=20 Arp Omni shown later in the video. The reason that the Mini Korg sounded so peculiar=20 is that it has a resonant HP filter which is=20 independently tunable from the resonant LP=20 filter. you can get some pretty unique timbres=20 form the Mini Korg. That filter, BTW, was called=20 the "Traveller" on the synth and was available on=20 the 911 guitar synth and the 'traveller'=20 footpedal filter stompbox. I hope this clarifies things a bit... CZ >hey fellows, What kind of synths did Gary Numan=20 >used in the 80=B4s?from all the bands back then=20 >they always stood up,they sounded different from=20 >other synth bands they to me they sounded like=20 >the les paul of synths very fat! here is one of=20 >my favorites:=20 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQeIaFXRhXtE&feature=3Drelated=20 >I always loved the fact that he had guitar=20 >oriented riffs on synths,i remember the first=20 >time i heard his voice i thought it was the new=20 >Syd Barret! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom -- =2E.. http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 13:05:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C21D13BE81; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:05:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49D4B8DA.1090307@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:08:42 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: RME Fireface UC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:05:58 +0000 (UTC) Just noticed this over at the SoS forums: http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_fireface_uc.php Seems like good news for Mac laptoppers who buggle with absent firewire interface on the non-Pro models. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 14:10:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E18AD3BE7F; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238681428; bh=NfPWchScbPDvWC0tyOiwPUgeSA55Qj9Oi7XJfNi4WeA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4tlhcY5dPU9TVQMb1fRGpmHKfoCMg9im1GVcKDLPRcSnABXRtv2TuZgdTTE29d+wHI1e+6vxCfgX+VyCo9GdATjdHCBtDqDqZ0HC+ByEwmyZei5cVG+igcUsZBYFaPtIpz22ptpdB5Z2G7ZR+BVxoVPm7Zwm0jWaj+HDq6jmQog= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=y9jsFXq7VCGpvAGy63dHdpp6WNXfP81xUSFAhTmj8ewgiSz5+VBV54qE0hzN2yapPt8f2eH+z32DTl34QcGuL2TzbCnXZXMRzwPmZI4WzclKKQt7SP3w+9+g2SdkaJ160DiS/TUz4iMhZ4r7ua2aUPGks1v1Tcu0hcz9ghmZDnY=; Message-ID: <935363.1790.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: D71Vs4UVM1kPKxCZVezWKrnbV7TiSwYyThN5sqtFiw0w11ZEnplBoM8oE6VZD8BY7Od3Od5cIp5JLgXTbsBeQsWqZiTPcmZYC4S_2KknpHd5kbDY32DmXnsjXaLYmhAdMA_yxwS.QR04.LaTgkd2OxmiZVOOE6mWbBgBxxTlraJb6un_1DR61iVCXBsxIyrgBfuGxGbJtZgQQw3_BNXTAvi4hgCHTUpxGloUwQAlmVtUlCHaIM1g7WmCa53MvsLZkXxwiRRts7UneAgY0yTGLADd86o1fZ7jlDKBxn5gWv9sYyiwG.Cp.heH.ESzlaKWGy6sBdkXG18rNHXDey34Cvkx34TrLg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.15 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:10:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Gary Numan Synths To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-P6RK.A.ROC.VdM1JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:10:29 +0000 (UTC) ok Claude maybe you like this one better?=0Athe guys have sideburns as well= =0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DU3_qCDr20U0&feature=3Drelated=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On Thu, 4/2/09, Claud= e Voit wrote:=0A=0A> From: Claude Voit =0A> = Subject: Re: Gary Numan Synths=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com= =0A> Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 1:45 AM=0A> thanks for reminding why I = hated the=0A> 80's musik=0A> =0A> ark!=0A> =0A> Claude=0A> =0A> L.Angulo a = =E9crit :=0A> > hey fellows,=0A> > What kind of synths did Gary Numan used = in the=0A> 80=B4s?from all the bands back then they always stood up,they=0A= > sounded different from other synth bands they to me they=0A> sounded like= the les paul of synths very fat!=0A> > here is one of my favorites:=0A> > = =0A> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQeIaFXRhXtE&feature=3Drelated=0A> >= =0A> > I always loved the fact that he had guitar oriented=0A> riffs on sy= nths,i remember the first time i heard his voice=0A> i thought it was the n= ew Syd Barret!=0A> > =0A> > Luis=0A> > =0A> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom= =0A> > =0A> > =0A> >=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0=0A> > =0A> > =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A = From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 14:12:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AC0B3BE8B; 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charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <_3Em-.A.kVC.ofM1JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Nice! just in time while wires are on fire! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 4/2/09, van Sinn wrote: > From: van Sinn > Subject: RME Fireface UC > To: "Loopers-Delight" > Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 6:08 AM > Just noticed this over at the SoS > forums: > http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_fireface_uc.php > > Seems like good news for Mac laptoppers who buggle with > absent firewire interface on the non-Pro models. > > -- rgds, > van Sinn > > From member@eBay.co.uk Thu Apr 2 14:31:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2131 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; 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GREETINGS IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.

I AM MRS,LUNA SEBA, FROM COTE D'IVOIRE A WIDOW TO LATE MR RAYMOND SEBA I AM 61 YEARS OLD, I AM A NEW CHRISTIAN CONVERT, SUFFERING FROM LONG TIME CANCER OF THE BREAST, FROM ALL INDICATION MY CONDITIONS IS REALLY DETERIORATING AND IT IS QUITE OBVIOUS THAT I WOUDN'T,LIVE MORE THAN SIX MONTHS, ACCORDING TO MY DOCTORS, AND IN ALL INDICATION REGARDS TO MEDICAL ANALYSIS, THIS IS BECAUSE THE CANCER STAGE HAS GOTTEN TO A VERY BAD STAGE THAT NO HOPE FOR ME TO BE A LIVING PERSON AGAIN, MY LATE HUSBAND DIED 5 YEARS AGO AND DURING THE PERIOD OF OUR MARRIAGE WE COULD NOT PRODUCE ANY CHILD.
 
MY LATE HUSBAND WAS VERY WEALTHY AND AFTER HIS DEATH, I INHERITED ALL HIS BUSINESS AND WEALTH. THE DOCTORS HAS ADVISED ME THAT I MAY NOT LIVE FOR MORE THAN SIX MONTHS, SO I NOW DECIDED TO DIVIDE THE PART OF THIS WEALTH, TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CHURCH IN AMERICA, AFRICA, ASIA AND EUROPE ESPECAILLY CREATE SOLUTION TO PROBLEM OF LESS PREVILLAGED ONES AND ALPHANAGE HOMES. I SELECTED YOU I PRAYED AND FAST FOR THREE WEEKS OVER IT WITH ADVISE OF MY PASTOR, I AM WILLING TO DONATE THE SUM OF $3.2,M U.S DOLLARS, TO THE LESS PRIVILEGED.
 
PLEASE I WANT YOU TO NOTE THAT THE FUND IS LYING IN A BANK, AND UPON MY INSTRUCTION, I WILL FILE IN AN APPLICATION FOR THE TRANSFER OF THE FUND IN YOUR NAME. LASTLY,I HONESTLY PRAY THAT THIS FUND WHEN TRANSFERRED TO YOU WILL BE USED FOR THE SAID PURPOSE EVEN THOUHG IM LATE THEN, BECAUSE I HAVE COME TO FIND OUT THAT WEALTH ACQUISITION WITHOUT CHRIST IS VANITY AND I MADE THE PROMISE TO GOD THAT THE FUND WILL BE USE TO BUILD HIS TEMPLE.
 
MY BELOVED IN CHRIST PLEASE IF YOU CAN DEVOLT YOUR TIME AND EFFORT TO DO THIS WORK FOR OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, I WILL LIKE YOU TO FUNISHE ME WITH YOUR CONTACT INFORMATIONS. THEREAFTER I WILL GIVE YOU THE CONTACT OF THE BANK HERE WHERE THE FUND IS DEPOSITED SO THAT YOU WILL CONTACT THEM TO SEE THAT THE FUND IS TRANSFERRED TO YOU SO THAT YOU CAN START THE WORK.
 
I NEED TO KNOW YOUR FULL NAMES,
YOUR AGE AND OCCUPATION,
YOUR STATE OF ORIGIN.
 
MAY THE GRACE OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST THE LOVE OF GOD AND THE SWEET FELLOWSHIP OF THE HOLY SPIRIT BE WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

I AWAIT FOR YOUR URGENT REPLY.
GOD BLESSES YOU.
MOTHER  LUNA SEBA.
 

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--0-1102009067-1238682929=:35342-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 15:26:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DA633BE88; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 15:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: FW: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival announced Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 08:25:55 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01C9B36C.A7DB5960" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcmzpqsZnxYvIR4EQ66Wcvj8omrM3gAADtOAAAAT8GA= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 15:26:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C9B36C.A7DB5960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Would you be my agent????? Thanks for having my back but I think I'm going to demand "only" brown M&M's, I like the ice sculpture and Stonehenge ideas though. bill _____ From: J Johans [mailto:parispro00@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:35 PM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival announced please forgive bill.... he clearly forgot items 10 through 13.... it must be the meds 11. no blue M&M's..... 12. an 18" version of stonehendge... 13. a life size ice sculpture made in his image.... that urinates whiskey... =D fro ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C9B36C.A7DB5960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Would you be my agent????? Thanks = for having my back but I think I’m going to demand “only” = brown M&M’s, I like the ice sculpture and Stonehenge ideas though…

bill

 

From: J = Johans [mailto:parispro00@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April = 01, 2009 11:35 PM
To: = loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival = announced

 

please forgive = bill....
he clearly forgot items 10 through 13.... it must be the meds
11. no blue M&M's.....
12. an 18" version of stonehendge...
13. a life size ice sculpture made in his image.... that urinates = whiskey...

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------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C9B36C.A7DB5960-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 16:54:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55EC93BE84; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238691294; bh=zfHP/c55mHaM8kSDB1ULcrjGzQ/Bv8e7CQlExYox/fE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cbS9p/Qjc55XOG5AqS9mdcjv17zjqRn8z21TItsM/EMu47PYniONnlvMZOt1adAbIXAM91aUiwF+QsvLEXQtV1XacYlv84AnH9c+3GhKvX2b/rUZ9f1wNu6ByeX5SGcTuRMZEd5rkEJHeEdWzZs0hW8Frhda/1L46YcvS6eKij8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FUunH/Iw0xoLuOsj274aqWLfv/Vj2vwPxNoXw8m8gmpmdQLeUZq+1AdeADAx2lZYaPKliW4EFTJ/0qbB5a81zk4p3YvBjgqCsV4MYbqosbCZg+c4wRaJVQ5cAvnDpYf7LRQCBMII2k3Mip65bdqtYp7WkiWSNkJYfvJ9XII5JvY=; Message-ID: <376525.56629.qm@web33208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: O2AST4cVM1kZWeDRUY1FjZRgaKzW9gtrUKhPjqCrq_uJptbhXdxji2uCBOFNJjWWZ6JYs9otv7ISRqeyYt6UkwOPNpodG7KmzFkPwi6MlXioXXLbzFtq5ijAfAJRpoa7mgRqjnTP3sSWO4Dn_wTmHDXUbeNERYK3CqrT_yVeVp9XJPHNnv.X_1SvWvEowwjjdpahkqHKYn91CpZj7r6DOJ4.prgDkEKO4C7UFOpAIIyjmIrCshQOV2maLgFDSuadIijSiiCYTCWpwTIxg_L1snfu0ho0eK9D4a2vEGs- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.15 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Mandala To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-74434232-1238691293=:56629" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Unidentified subject! Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:54:55 +0000 (UTC) --0-74434232-1238691293=:56629 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I searched Ableton Live and Behringer FCB1010 set up issues and got this site I just got my pedal yesterday and i was wondering how to set it up Ive been trying for a couple hours with no success Thanks Eric http://www.mandalaworldmusic.com Contact me on Skype my user name is ericmandala http://www.myspace.com/mandalaworldmusic Now you can buy our Cds & download our music track by track here online http://cdbaby.com/cd/ericmandala Eric Mandala music now available on itunes, Amazon, CD Baby, Super D, CD Connection, Trackseller, CD Universe and more... --0-74434232-1238691293=:56629 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I searched Ableton Live and Behringer FCB1010 set up issues and got this site
I just got my pedal yesterday and i was wondering how to set it up
Ive been trying for a couple hours with no success
Thanks
Eric

http://www.mandalaworldmusic.com

Contact me on Skype my user name is ericmandala

http://www.myspace.com/mandalaworldmusic

Now you can buy our Cds & download our music track by track here online
http://cdbaby.com/cd/ericmandala

Eric Mandala music now available on itunes, Amazon, CD Baby, Super D, CD Connection, Trackseller, CD Universe and more...


--0-74434232-1238691293=:56629-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 17:00:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32F8B3BE84; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:00:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238691638; bh=7dAAzbFdJXUoA7y70brEbx1IkJMZYGKYdgljhrwymzU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=v4VNaeDgrz72NUPoi7C6H1zXP8RNyEpNeXmuA9RZu9Dk/lygjCYJ85SQ0kHUGWqi7euFyxG6RJpVJVUKVQ8O/ix3PPnWBSUI5sXyaXDpmMN8XCynuxpccKnXz8LjCyHufZBT1H7ng3VNUprrpdIH48es/6hu5j4wbq2Pz5XnOsY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vaEG8u8fnbgtWBdpvR8lNiqkm3RNtA4ruUEDreQl9+4BX9Ey9eefG5CaOKbboC5WUhhL5d0fBJju8kiocpiW95KTEVwa+noCozSFwL7niIuXrluBzmMfeQgJUB5c5S6ZAHN8iXegWmZsCtN1QRWPzAgIatLCQqtbTCyHaXkjtNw=; Message-ID: <487342.59025.qm@web33208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: I_5AW7QVM1kpgZ.setePkyFa7eoUgupH8UJ_Otrlkb5F6oFpFMIsY5D7vZrYYyGNJBPidCDRWrb3ZGrgDQoskWSY0aj7LxmEHzc_0jxM2sFjFrCiielyDL0wi5pFg7Yor0gb1nZO7FXMD.vZldkK0xEqN1tV5iFKpRMGFp4Qge5ZMnuE0v9lfGrOPo6q6Vh49aS23pYaUviUEGqGdftNckBBXSA1z_Z5DPCl_f2cCzCp.jlfJ_dxWuTxFQ9gytTZXweusSP0wVsIk1td70YeYEZNthOoLgaFFqOSNYPWKJdxx.dbQRYXm05Muz5lb8lGo.TZ.MNHwtFFWU1EBCUgGzEUA7_rkg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.15 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:00:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Mandala Subject: Ableton Live and Behringer FCB1010 set up issues To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-129407022-1238691638=:59025" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:00:40 +0000 (UTC) --0-129407022-1238691638=:59025 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I searched Ableton Live and Behringer FCB1010 set up issues and got this site I just got my pedal yesterday and i was wondering how to set it up Ive been trying for a couple hours with no success Thanks Eric http://www.mandalaworldmusic.com Contact me on Skype my user name is ericmandala http://www.myspace.com/mandalaworldmusic Now you can buy our Cds & download our music track by track here online http://cdbaby.com/cd/ericmandala Eric Mandala music now available on itunes, Amazon, CD Baby, Super D, CD Connection, Trackseller, CD Universe and more... Eric http://www.mandalaworldmusic.com Contact me on Skype my user name is ericmandala http://www.myspace.com/mandalaworldmusic Now you can buy our Cds & download our music track by track here online http://cdbaby.com/cd/ericmandala Eric Mandala music now available on itunes, Amazon, CD Baby, Super D, CD Connection, Trackseller, CD Universe and more... --0-129407022-1238691638=:59025 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I searched Ableton Live and Behringer FCB1010 set up issues and got this site
I just got my pedal yesterday and i was wondering how to set it up
Ive been trying for a couple hours with no success
Thanks
Eric

http://www.mandalaworldmusic.com

Contact me on Skype my user name is ericmandala

http://www.myspace.com/mandalaworldmusic

Now you can buy our Cds & download our music track by track here online
http://cdbaby.com/cd/ericmandala

Eric Mandala music now available on itunes, Amazon, CD Baby, Super D, CD Connection, Trackseller, CD Universe and more...


Eric

http://www.mandalaworldmusic.com

Contact me on Skype my user name is ericmandala

http://www.myspace.com/mandalaworldmusic

Now you can buy our Cds & download our music track by track here online
http://cdbaby.com/cd/ericmandala

Eric Mandala music now available on itunes, Amazon, CD Baby, Super D, CD Connection, Trackseller, CD Universe and more...

--0-129407022-1238691638=:59025-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 17:08:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D1EE3BE85; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3giy77SY/Xso7fp1K3hQUTogumAEE+CLyUMmF3lOGIs=; b=OyGYsDnw3HR62L7R+/93ZxM8RHYDsEcTitGbEHBaVo59xZGgneZ3h7zxeF9+xJHS2G TIYZ6qYrE9/ylvki/zo5cd7db63WsRgIu5BdZ4ZLpea0L66ayIdKLjkvKmIGx341Tmas YG2DIrKyLZtNQ7+YEGvoMutjoOqkDby204OUs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LuT5kC4vB+6KHCKCdMHnfCPOQkv1IPvzzrJrQ+Qr6B8XvGgcvI2AoQbTfrzlER6zWq ZIG6AXycT6yEeRw7Gq2q/DQZSLsp/vJ9lte6RiZoWp02LGLH1Smt8ysGpSnVaCFFjwIQ Bu2Od0Xjlnu0ZZzeczIPE5ET+Yg1FRUq9Err4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <487342.59025.qm@web33208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <487342.59025.qm@web33208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:08:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ableton Live and Behringer FCB1010 set up issues From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:08:12 +0000 (UTC) if you join the FCB1010 group in groups.yahoo.com there are a few manuals in the files section that explain how to set that up. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Eric Mandala wrote: > I searched Ableton Live and Behringer FCB1010 set up issues and got this > site > I just got my pedal yesterday and i was wondering how to set it up > Ive been trying for a couple hours with no success > Thanks > Eric > > http://www.mandalaworldmusic.com > > Contact me on Skype my user name is ericmandala > > http://www.myspace.com/mandalaworldmusic > > Now you can buy our Cds & download our music track by track here online > http://cdbaby.com/cd/ericmandala > > Eric Mandala music now available on itunes, Amazon, CD Baby, Super D, CD > Connection, Trackseller, CD Universe and more... > > > Eric > > http://www.mandalaworldmusic.com > > Contact me on Skype my user name is ericmandala > > http://www.myspace.com/mandalaworldmusic > > Now you can buy our Cds & download our music track by track here online > http://cdbaby.com/cd/ericmandala > > Eric Mandala music now available on itunes, Amazon, CD Baby, Super D, CD > Connection, Trackseller, CD Universe and more... > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 17:53:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAFBD3BE88; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5839166F-EF04-4A58-A2D7-F418D4BFC246@mikecrain.com> From: Mike Crain To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-541986237 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Live 8 is out Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:51:47 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:53:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-541986237 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I haven't checked the Ableton website, but KVR Audio says it's out. http://www.kvraudio.com/news/11306.html Cheers! Mike Crain Percussionist/Composer Sacramento, CA 95818 mike@mikecrain.com http://www.mikecrain.com http://www.myspace.com/mikecraincom "Not only will the harmonic possibilities of the overtones be revealed in all their splendor, but the use of certain interferences created by the partials will represent an appreciable contribution." - Edgard Varese --Apple-Mail-1-541986237 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I haven't checked the Ableton = website, but KVR Audio says it's out.


Cheers!

Mike Crain
Percussionist/Composer
Sacramento, CA = 95818
mike@mikecrain.com
Not only will the harmonic possibilities of the overtones be = revealed
will represent = an appreciable = contribution.  









= --Apple-Mail-1-541986237-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 18:03:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC1D53BE85; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: OT Musical Anatomy Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:03:15 +0200 Message-ID: <002801c9b3bd$4becf0e0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcmzvUtwr9cqgyHfRniFt87dsgNVlQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.129; VDF: 7.1.3.6) Resent-Message-ID: <053a8B.A.LVB.n3P1JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:03:19 +0000 (UTC) http://www.shawnfeeney.com/ I wonder how he would draw a looper -m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 18:22:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 620713BE88; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:22:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238696562; bh=AVFt6eOP61ZHB8sIM4SoUD4xqtmRgw7+qE1jtWrapNo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4tUQNW+Dn1sT50B1YKoJEdE6eV9514vYcuP9r+Ws4lAFuoTyJf/wC5iXKYfsUa3G+r0a7pcwQYQucu88vcfhwzzBQ1ICLu8r8Mc0oBi7tlat7j6OZxpvY8RdIhnz20bVKNvfyX1n3+Mko94UNrVru2YFNGvzNAcEi0BvfP6K0K8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Gf9f8cUeYiz2pmhOLLF27H4eLS6TWwQ5KK+OehsA9RosW0Klh59lTK01SVatIQvjJ5hYVhRvsAG5kGZsprk7n3V2NaHalDRWxNJPrBFvLZNNmtDDlEA/E03izrxJ2UPXr8jKtxi7bIEBwqZOdo0yFIorhqrBObRLKu1JhfebBuE=; Message-ID: <598493.24398.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: V1QZV4AVM1kZcEyCN2Zg05iZDDSZe9XYKeK.nGm6z5wbVTCc2LsIBhFPgP7_lubsbPSb3UGcRUkHbmMwSHGW7iSwAnB52dVsN2kXPEo5sX4NX8zmNlIDjtp7haC2xMO_4EK5.XJXiy6e.hY1oT8DMnGHWqB3Zpz1bN_yxuVQYQXtuWYX1KeF09tPiUEPt3hnxgUbSEuLKfqwsgZn0U3BAYHjbgj5UZp4CtS2XimtDQYUDr2buhViySkY8TzT4ArJW07B_77sZ8xOYo3G.XuyvYnkWYxw5Ki8guP_0OKxY0a_l652rcLS0Vgu8.0c7_jF4MPieXBrzWjiu9h1UL6i.s_WcXBH1ag- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.15 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:22:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Axel Rudich To: Fernando Jobke Cc: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <3HLoNB.A.axC.zJQ1JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:22:43 +0000 (UTC) Yes he is,i became really good friends with him when i was in California he also put a sustainer bypass switch on my fernandes guitar.In fact i sent a message to this list as soon as i found out. He was supposed to put an RMC system on my guitar as well,then i found out through his wife that he had passed away. He is responsible for Adrian Belews signature model the guy was a master craftsman and a real fine person.He had mentioned to me that he was having health problems but didnt tell me what, but i dont know if the car crash had something to do with it.It really hit me hard when i found out what had happened. I read somewhere that they finally found a replacemnt to do the Adrian models since hardly anybody could do such a meticulous and perfect job. He will be missed. Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 4/2/09, Fernando Jobke wrote: > From: Fernando Jobke > Subject: Axel Rudich > To: labaloops@yahoo.com > Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 9:45 AM > Hi > > I'm Fernando Jobke > used to be a student of Axel in Buenos Aires, I'm kind > of shocked, now that I read that he passed away, in a car > accident. > Was just googling his name, and bumped into this news, > could you plesae tell me if it's the Argentinian Axel > Rudich you where talking about? > If yes, it's a big loss for musicians and people in > general, he was a great great person and a remarkable > luthier and guitar player. > > hug > f > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 19:35:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 141863BE84; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:35:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=me8tdv+naoBFwYaWsomjZ1002fhvUqqiqXBqN1H4WKc=; b=F9URJyi+Sslos6FOBKo99B+m8xyeaflmpql3OeRnCZxAAjgY19//sp42RwiRawzwmX SUDMaqlwX5qWhgp8s7QjqX7z+uFTATykAGNXz5/Wkmxa9+S+CalFDR/VWjqOyxTYdkP2 iOBA4qCP3X9Bhj2L/DZhc4F40xZXCNSTgrrAs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=pHM6/lYVOloAcu6kj+xVj5ZyN9sgWU317l8redkOKUKOlP4cttKAcfFGK4R4Ior9mo J8U7IcMOCDg9m8Ox+iqYBTJdHgP7FbH0AWeqCgR4z6C88hYBBsD/LP6VEssWnScK1G88 v2OK+jlxpd8uj2Thxnh/SvuliMutSwegPqA5g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:35:09 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0904021235n2fdcbd59la62bc7d6e522da7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Early bird loopers with Live? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:35:09 +0000 (UTC) Hi Gang, Anyone started out yet to loop in Live 8 with the new Looper plug-in? Wondering what set-ups people have come up with. How many Looper instances, signal addressing of choice and strategies for external MIDI control. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 19:39:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E6733BE88; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SpamGroup: 2000 X-CM-Cat: Undefined:Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=io1V8RJWGRUA:10 a=paUis6ZMAAAA:8 a=dMZfGW12AAAA:8 a=YioQBmtRtkgMiOSW4K4A:9 a=_ntonCju9oUoUZQF__Txcwm2zOkA:4 a=yy9KgUaKM3IA:10 a=mtSzdJXTV2gA:10 a=RyiL-aZl26MA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=1vkWFrw2Vab-rVhWrVEA:9 a=QZnDPXIc3DjLkh9DtsQA:7 a=g5TwsCyULs2CUkqh7hMkR2m0KHsA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Message-ID: <633F656F28D04E04A19C3B03979DA7A3@graphix> From: "rick miller" To: References: <66f9cc1e0904021235n2fdcbd59la62bc7d6e522da7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Early bird loopers with Live? Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 15:39:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C9B3A9.2B28D130" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:39:12 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C9B3A9.2B28D130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Curious to know myself - You could download Beta versions from their forum at last check. rick ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Per Boysen=20 To: Loopers-Delight=20 Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: Early bird loopers with Live? Hi Gang, Anyone started out yet to loop in Live 8 with the new Looper plug-in? Wondering what set-ups people have come up with. How many Looper instances, signal addressing of choice and strategies for external MIDI control. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C9B3A9.2B28D130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Curious to know myself -
You could download Beta = versions from their=20 forum at last check.
 
rick
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Per = Boysen=20
To: Loopers-Delight =
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 = 3:35=20 PM
Subject: Early bird loopers = with=20 Live?

Hi Gang,

Anyone started out yet to loop in Live = 8 with=20 the new Looper plug-in?
Wondering what set-ups people have come up = with.=20 How many Looper
instances, signal addressing of choice and = strategies for=20 external
MIDI control.

Greetings from Sweden

Per = Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C9B3A9.2B28D130-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 19:44:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67EE13BE8E; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:44:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EEVrw/HCAE7LgIgZSQOsMVW2m6+Ka8Spr/9QHWipdYo=; b=YOvZ6LmLtx+yJuZbrmwQQuWlUGmTTR7Boemp++36LwgsrznUPhd2J1e24BjPN5G2wN ql5jR/9sfC5dQ3fFNMkpYEd2ppRKGIOnAIndr38CWwQjep/89sYM75hd7dsQAtd7o96L L/wwiq4AlAmk4kxciUyh6hlmIdaYZe4On6N4Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ROqTIfxR+WfVyQjmwC0F+Gem+NuCVxsyAbs4gKQLAnutZoH3zk/hmmFFajxqUhcSNx vzkX0lFVmma6FrwTc1SwgK4sd0TRCFd7dalvWTjMK8CqGwyQN+2pShKZ1pb4k38+XW3r v98rS38c3s8hxYaGx+ek+hAzAh5ZqeeAavF6o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <633F656F28D04E04A19C3B03979DA7A3@graphix> References: <66f9cc1e0904021235n2fdcbd59la62bc7d6e522da7@mail.gmail.com> <633F656F28D04E04A19C3B03979DA7A3@graphix> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:44:43 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0904021244k7ace8b69mf536605d713f3bcb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Early bird loopers with Live? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:44:44 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:39 PM, rick miller wrote: > Curious to know myself - > You could download Beta versions=A0from their forum at last check. > > rick Yup, the Beta is the one I've been on for weeks now. But I was never able to direct enough time into looping with it. And also, the release version is known to be a bit more CPU friendly than the beta version, due to the beta reporting code now been stripped off. It would be nice to see posts from folks that is looping with the new Looper plug-in! :-) Tips and thoughts and such... Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 19:49:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E78E83BE92; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238701736; bh=jaEh4+6iiDbbNq5C43VfGL3d+NkoBVyM2cMb4ljeFA4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=mZ3uGLFFeexr9YWKbFJC8uPfZ6ei+idFpe3zAU6+wxKxeQw8y5eX1YrGqp1+czodFEbvHARt9x2c8iYeul0rLbVyIUkrFOxEuBxwkqEVniKH0cFIpvCyeAqcEk0QdyTzUVR3naepyj2sARwdptYFgRx1ad1USwjjhQ4XVmccSYE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Qyf0GiT5du9vv5VWZfUl1gOrdSNUslKwirdwLrALTqIhkDWrEu/IlTEEflcpjvRl2j0EDqMPaJ8+uPPnJ9Vgm9xlSgngFEqefvwrpCBHXtjOINSvq4NkmqD9WnsfipE1m7IdVoielm2/jw8C63iEWaAD+p10oTh4IRyKUeGQlIU=; Message-ID: <177203.85463.qm@web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: z6JSMPoVM1nFjB16jkYAQauT7cVXhhz7L15h.0dtRA1ehxlqrHpd4_cRxMUQD_WI5A23dzlAM83qf2YOJ.tkvbBS9LCEP0iP6olIcj1uxiUlOHBSAMLd2vR4fT5oDO4wsfEvS4K8bVj9mq.lPyvKycKhZHCXtDqRMw87id9sxbV2rCpY5vfgTaI4Q4NJo5KB4i_bHGRlDfBKr7cEFQP9pUPjCDPTfQdri4DkJwdtVI1_tf5efa5JkltzibydrJ0Y9RrwrsjOFolaLKPAo489JeK1ocEDRIoI0_4QeI6_.fi1FniKtxTui8OKXil4eXk- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.35 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <002801c9b3bd$4becf0e0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:48:56 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Subject: Re: OT Musical Anatomy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <002801c9b3bd$4becf0e0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:49:01 +0000 (UTC) He's having an opening in San Francisco this Monday at CounterPulse...I pla= n to show up. If any other loopers want to meet up and have=A0a drink or so= emthing after, ping me!=0A=0A-George=0A=A0http://www.myspace.com/georgeludw= igmusic =0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Michael Peters =0ATo: Loopers Delight =0AS= ent: Thursday, April 2, 2009 11:03:15 AM=0ASubject: OT Musical Anatomy=0A= =0Ahttp://www.shawnfeeney.com/=0A=0AI wonder how he would draw a looper=0A= =0A-m=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 21:09:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ADB2B3BE7F; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:09:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20090402014541.3873D3BE87@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090402014541.3873D3BE87@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival announced From: looppool@cruzio.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:09:04 +0000 (UTC) Kris wrote: "You had me going Rick! Cruel man. And I was ready to apply, until I read the last part on laptops." What? and you bought the first part about all travel expenses and a $2,000 performance fee for 50 live looping artists. LOL, the fact that it was April Fool's Day might have also tipped you, but I'm sorry if I actually had you going for a minute. I was just taking a playful poke at the fact that it is difficult to put these things on and that everyone doing it does it for love and not money. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 21:26:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D397D3BE85; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:26:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 21:26:47 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f4e2fc3f-4ef4-41b0-86d5-0a96235cf522_" X-Originating-IP: [15.195.201.88] From: Kris Hartung To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: RE: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival announced Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:21:46 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <20090402014541.3873D3BE87@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Apr 2009 21:21:46.0451 (UTC) FILETIME=[070FA230:01C9B3D9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:26:47 +0000 (UTC) --_f4e2fc3f-4ef4-41b0-86d5-0a96235cf522_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A guy can dream that some day there will be a plethera of wealthy patrons o= f the looping and avant-garde music arts. :) Believe me=2C if I were indep= edentally wealthy=2C I would not hestitate a minute to do something like th= is at least once a year. I'd be flying you all in first class and putting = you up in 5 star hotels. I've love to do that.=20 =20 Kris =20 > Date: Thu=2C 2 Apr 2009 14:09:03 -0700 >=20 > Kris wrote: > "You had me going Rick! Cruel man. And I was ready to apply=2C until I > read the last part on laptops." >=20 > What? and you bought the first part about all travel expenses and a > $2=2C000 performance fee for 50 live looping artists. >=20 > LOL=2C the fact that it was April Fool's Day might have also tipped you= =2C > but I'm sorry if I actually had you going for a minute. >=20 > I was just taking a playful poke at the fact that it is difficult to put > these things on and that everyone doing it does it for love and not money= . >=20 --_f4e2fc3f-4ef4-41b0-86d5-0a96235cf522_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A guy can dream that some day there will be a plethera of =3Bwealthy pa= trons of the looping and avant-garde music arts. :) =3B =3BBelieve = me=2C if I were indepedentally wealthy=2C I would not hestitate a minute to= do something like this at least once a year. =3B =3BI'd be flying = you all in first class and putting you up in 5 star hotels. I've love to do= that.
 =3B
Kris

 =3B
>=3B Date: Thu=2C 2 Apr 2009 14:09:03 -0700

>=3B=
>=3B Kris wrote:
>=3B "You had me going Rick! Cruel man. And I = was ready to apply=2C until I
>=3B read the last part on laptops."
= >=3B
>=3B What? and you bought the first part about all travel expe= nses and a
>=3B $2=2C000 performance fee for 50 live looping artists.<= BR>>=3B
>=3B LOL=2C the fact that it was April Fool's Day might hav= e also tipped you=2C
>=3B but I'm sorry if I actually had you going fo= r a minute.
>=3B
>=3B I was just taking a playful poke at the fa= ct that it is difficult to put
>=3B these things on and that everyone = doing it does it for love and not money.
>=3B
= --_f4e2fc3f-4ef4-41b0-86d5-0a96235cf522_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 2 21:28:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B21B3BE7F; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49D52DE4.1080404@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:28:04 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5FvbEC.A.wHF.D4S1JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:28:35 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on Galactic Travels, I'll begin the month-long Special Focus on the Ricochet Gathering. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Okefenokee 2002" by the Ricochet Gathering on the Ricochet Dream label. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#apr You'll also hear from Syndromeda and the new album Ideation, a project from two alumni of the Ricochet Gathering. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 02:24:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DA9D3BE80; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 02:24:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 389 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:24:43 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nbsl0xRM0JVIqMQ5FRwDkrqBkxn2DGqhOYug6TwkJUc=; b=BBG/Dqb51rK/knNyqFspBPTQS+zIK5AbmfdPpF4tVeGE4K1VeZ2fxTYFJ9khdmpQoB YFUXedf1oof0lw4TjYX9derC55KALzsn9L+K0p/zdmWb207OiHefqkYuhphqxoUsNjNU DdY9vicFZg5SVVGrV8+ujjYW+oVYsteiNwcqM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=BgcjlKEPV5mMIVBce/IanzgQ9PyXJg2H7HpvvnWKT57NFuEKYBIlBNB3C+zuGZOLw8 rHdPhfJQw59QGhQnLS+bYog7i6epckia6sg7FihQ3Sknh1LUIAhYAM5gK830AWMlcSm9 bmUvrKH7GKdF50pOjdIMs8/+ksl9rBP2EFIbk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <5839166F-EF04-4A58-A2D7-F418D4BFC246@mikecrain.com> References: <5839166F-EF04-4A58-A2D7-F418D4BFC246@mikecrain.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:18:13 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c70c52109e9867a3 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live 8 is out From: Nick To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636283694330bd304669d29a4 Resent-Message-ID: <6bExEC.A.-sD.rNX1JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 02:24:43 +0000 (UTC) --001636283694330bd304669d29a4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was about to upgrade my copy, which is 7 (edu vers) but the upgrade price it lists is $189 which is way more than the $89 it previously listed for live 6 to live 7 edu versions. Would someone with the regular version let me know what the upgrade price is for them? On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Mike Crain wrote: > I haven't checked the Ableton website, but KVR Audio says it's out. > http://www.kvraudio.com/news/11306.html > > Cheers! > > Mike Crain > Percussionist/Composer > Sacramento, CA 95818 > mike@mikecrain.com > http://www.mikecrain.com > http://www.myspace.com/mikecraincom** > * > * > *"Not only will the harmonic possibilities of the overtones be revealed* > *in all their splendor, but the use of certain interferences created by > the* > *partials will represent an appreciable contribution." * > * > - Edgard Varese* > > * > * > > > > > > > > > --001636283694330bd304669d29a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was about to upgrade my copy, which is 7 (edu vers) but the upgrade price= it lists is $189 which is way more than the $89 it previously listed for l= ive 6 to live 7 edu versions. Would someone with the regular version let me= know what the upgrade price is for them?

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Mike Crain = <mike@mikecrain.= com> wrote:
I haven't checked the Ableton website, but KVR Audio sa= ys it's out.

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Cheers!

Mike= Crain
Percussionist/Composer
Sacramento, CA 95818
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--001636283694330bd304669d29a4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 02:37:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 859A53BE7F; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 02:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ijb4kJOCq3p70bEEeiDymGTiDL3e4Z02IR5al1nVVYE=; b=q9XPbZS58UeiiUxh0hdw5mY8G0wAY0DPaliMRXivV2BHiFWGHi6cJW/Oz5cjFbxxkO A9Bnqc3EKJfuYkFtoYEDJAxjhDwDFkwirP5jbezUTTgcRfn4x16KtU68b1RfI2hmsRGA 23zoJAKcLZ/dpb9T5y2vonwIJ2VGVsABrHFoI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=G8uIYfkZYQ/A+U8uCnZy6azWSZCaOlCCKokk6PPOw5fo6HzeIZoP45bYKWn3YxOh8F 9oP0YuxBAdLuDUBgqh/hxqSmGE+POpCxbLUY7iddsBn4tiIErAILxPMr2kDBHp8mEXeg vei0QvhvkYR2RwFBtqP+W0n4gedJtAxcTUl5g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <5839166F-EF04-4A58-A2D7-F418D4BFC246@mikecrain.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:37:39 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0904021937o700ef147jb8072fd52a4cf22a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 is out From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 02:37:40 +0000 (UTC) I paid the $189 for the edu upgrade, and honestly it seems fair to me. I've been using the Live 8 beta, and I like the looper. I can't wait for Max for Live! As an aside though, I've got to say how impressed I am with the recent upgrades to Stylus RMX, and at no cost! That really is a fantastic piece of kit. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Nick wrote: > I was about to upgrade my copy, which is 7 (edu vers) but the upgrade pri= ce > it lists is $189 which is way more than the $89 it previously listed for > live 6 to live 7 edu versions. Would someone with the regular version let= me > know what the upgrade price is for them? > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Mike Crain wrote: >> >> I haven't checked the Ableton website, but KVR Audio says it's out. >> http://www.kvraudio.com/news/11306.html >> Cheers! >> Mike Crain >> Percussionist/Composer >> Sacramento, CA 95818 >> mike@mikecrain.com >> http://www.mikecrain.com >> http://www.myspace.com/mikecraincom >> "Not only will the harmonic possibilities of the overtones be revealed >> in all their splendor,=A0but the use of certain interferences created by= the >> partials=A0will represent an=A0appreciable contribution." >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-=A0Edgard Varese >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 03:03:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BDFE3BE85; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:03:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49D57C86.1080003@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:03:34 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: RE: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:03:38 +0000 (UTC) Kris wrote: "A guy can dream that some day there will be a plethera of wealthy patrons of the looping and avant-garde music arts. :) Believe me, if I were indepedentally wealthy, I would not hestitate a minute to do something like this at least once a year. I'd be flying you all in first class and putting you up in 5 star hotels. I've love to do that." Geez, Kris, you practically do this already with all your heroic attempts to get granting and funding for your beautiful festival of Experimental and Improvisation Music in Boise, annually......................I think of you as one of the selfless heroes in this kind of music.......................you and the Matt Davignons and others who have worked so hard to present new music and live looping music. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 03:12:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22C0A3BE89; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:12:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.26.134] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <49D57C86.1080003@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:12:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2009 03:12:11.0305 (UTC) FILETIME=[FAD9C190:01C9B409] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:12:12 +0000 (UTC) You are too kind, Rick. I just with I could do more. It is frustrating. I really want to make a difference and generate more appreciation for the avant-garde and experimental music arts, and give artists more gratification and credit, but at times I feel as if I were Sisyphus pushing his rock up the hill constantly. The demand for this type of art is miniscule, and promoting it is like planning a goat rodeo. :) But in the end, I am very grateful to be able to get such fine musicians here in Boise, Idaho. Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Kris wrote: > "A guy can dream that some day there will be a plethera of wealthy patrons > of the looping and avant-garde music arts. :) Believe me, if I were > indepedentally wealthy, I would not hestitate a minute to do something > like this at least once a year. I'd be flying you all in first class and > putting you up in 5 star hotels. I've love to do that." > > > Geez, Kris, you practically do this already with all your heroic > attempts to get granting and funding for your beautiful > festival of Experimental and Improvisation Music in Boise, > annually......................I think of you as one of the selfless heroes > in this > kind of music.......................you and the Matt Davignons and others > who have worked so hard to present new music and live looping > music. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 03:22:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1149E3BE87; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:22:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=N82nptPGj4EZN7g+LBBspqrcQEWLtD3Jnm6CoSjXVag=; b=AL9ZvrN6jcwwBfPmpE9bvE2FXc8o+HAXVS2p7/UR4kFNxPjGNQLfLGLN2MDQsPM1Hi 72gR0JNPXK9QjyZuFvtMf5Ow/Gei5RRbUvlGGp59tbViMgyiT/gBXrZIlqtfdYCBu73/ dPb1S7D2vGv3MrHmbBGeuoa061uhuATFgwDA4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jPiV9mUav4ATWGnnRSqW7Bg/rFG4QA4vQ9RyqlMqb68oDdyH2Tj8AvDJ9iwnl+ag+O 4OFN68mfBZLdPfT24Oev2ZyQ+Nc505D6h3xJghuZKLyizVgXmOL1R2HC/iACjFLuYrYC mz1CBZwW1nM3Dsr1dHg0ympcGDWGf2lUKoVvQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:22:31 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2772bc06abf2fc02 Message-ID: Subject: Live 8 warping and sound quality impressions From: Nick To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:22:31 +0000 (UTC) I've been messing around with live 8 today, and overall I'm pretty happy with the updates. I have yet to try out the looper, but right now im trying all the new warping engine features to see how it will work in a live dj situation. So far, I've actually been having a hard time getting the same audio quality as I get in live 7 with warped tracks. A few vocal heavy tracks made the vocals sound absolutely awful with the default settings. I tried them in live 7 and they sounded way better. Has anyone else had this experience? Additionally, what do people think of the new way of using warp markers? Do you think Live's transient analysis and warping based on that is significantly better than the use of warp markers? I'm particularly interested in hearing everyone's opinion on the last questions, as warping is a very important feature for me. I'll be trying out the looper later and reading everyone's impressions of that in another thread. Thanks, Nick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 03:22:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99EDD3BE90; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:22:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=touTDWx4zsweriyuUJcT9LlkFQDMkAlnBPb/g0voMdw=; b=DTUUO/BZY2XC8FQnGMlae46MmGYfZDZ9YRvgJhSIZcIJnQG6fmMH/01PFAgFcUD6xe mA0c1wPGNCBMMIG9r5I6rAmyDzO0zTw4+SybhNOiLFb07HC7t2bbCYkGBhWHsx2eFaNh KcG0ygtgn7orVS0Fn3KsjB+lfUdh8WHlAQYA0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=osDEHaysDe1k0TLe2NouEH/oAt8CpkfjMHVx/yiMADkXljy3vXEeGO6Jen2nMeUUrB qOnW3ZvGz0n/Y6ALUXfwgasbPj8l7iVP/CMNrpuWDBmxGd458VckpV3Va1sSzCpHrzbC RtwHo+t6Jouki57f34uInk9MCIVw0FExehiOE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49D57C86.1080003@cruzio.com> References: <49D57C86.1080003@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 23:22:34 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60904022022n625b2a66le48c56d6705169c4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4837c4cc78c04669e0fb9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:22:35 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4837c4cc78c04669e0fb9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mr Walker and Mr Walker you both were really rich here. It was neat as I thought no one would do an April Fools on the list so it was nice to see it happen. Happy April... J On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Kris wrote: > "A guy can dream that some day there will be a plethera of wealthy patrons > of the looping and avant-garde music arts. :) Believe me, if I were > indepedentally wealthy, I would not hestitate a minute to do something like > this at least once a year. I'd be flying you all in first class and putting > you up in 5 star hotels. I've love to do that." > > > Geez, Kris, you practically do this already with all your heroic attempts > to get granting and funding for your beautiful > festival of Experimental and Improvisation Music in Boise, > annually......................I think of you as one of the selfless heroes > in this > kind of music.......................you and the Matt Davignons and others > who have worked so hard to present new music and live looping > music. > > -- music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --000e0cd4837c4cc78c04669e0fb9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mr Walker and Mr Walker you both were really rich here. =A0It was neat as I= thought no one would do an April Fools on the list so it was nice to see i= t happen. =A0Happy April... J

On Thu, Apr= 2, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
Kris wrote:
"A guy can dream that some day there will be a plethera of wealthy pat= rons of the looping and avant-garde music arts. :) =A0Believe me, if I were= indepedentally wealthy, I would not hestitate a minute to do something lik= e this at least once a year. =A0I'd be flying you all in first class an= d putting you up in 5 star hotels. I've love to do that."


Geez, =A0Kris, =A0you practically do this already with all your heroic atte= mpts to get granting and funding for your beautiful
festival of Experimental and Improvisation Music in Boise, annually........= ..............I think of you as one of the selfless heroes in this
kind of music.......................you and the Matt Davignons and others w= ho have worked so hard to present new music and live looping
music.




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music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmu= sic
www.myspace.com/china= paintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodin= music

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

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--000e0cd4837c4cc78c04669e0fb9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 03:30:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65F0C3BE85; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:30:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3611 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:30:05 UTC Message-id: <3928ED3B-5490-4B58-A0B5-A0D94F38A03D@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: Live 8 is out Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 21:29:48 -0500 References: <5839166F-EF04-4A58-A2D7-F418D4BFC246@mikecrain.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:30:05 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 2, 2009, at 9:18 PM, Nick wrote: > I was about to upgrade my copy, which is 7 (edu vers) but the > upgrade price it lists is $189 which is way more than the $89 it > previously listed for live 6 to live 7 edu versions. Would someone > with the regular version let me know what the upgrade price is for > them? I'll be upgrading from Live 5, and the edu price is exactly the same as the regular price. And, yes, it's also a lot more expensive than last time I upgraded. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 03:40:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00AA53BE7C; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=k7Ai/DiDOFBCWnjuQ/V5Q+CnabvGWTi7Ma9woaZpPAI=; b=wEyx/7mIHt/3NM2VskO3o+59GZ4yVwhQEJmhiRleGKcoXEWZ0nMgWIeMml8F5OTahs lO84XmDfLwq/vxULkWtpBLElvLrpsYE0ljT6DUDhmANWubPl6ociyFkSKHBtEGl2ohBG Xfl/vYxBqn/FGiRfZBKp5AbTJA93dVjm9gbxo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Gxc89tGzfgLvPDCshoLv75+gtYOvbxuR0fi4BC/LuoVhdrICstnNPcXWsMS7dMIh3R 6hGAyG83qG5KU4SSmcOF+Uk0lJxOALX3GXzY6PWhqWKVdFyX0pmSwRIgdxhLNJx88pod TeJLXAMb9hgAKBm7NTPpdEjie5S0TYtFVfQc8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <3928ED3B-5490-4B58-A0B5-A0D94F38A03D@verizon.net> References: <5839166F-EF04-4A58-A2D7-F418D4BFC246@mikecrain.com> <3928ED3B-5490-4B58-A0B5-A0D94F38A03D@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:40:55 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5c43d3f05f2da9ab Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live 8 is out From: Nick To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-XFsCB.A.k6B.IVY1JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:40:56 +0000 (UTC) thanks guys. now the hard part - deciding whether to upgrade. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > On Apr 2, 2009, at 9:18 PM, Nick wrote: > >> I was about to upgrade my copy, which is 7 (edu vers) but the upgrade >> price it lists is $189 which is way more than the $89 it previously listed >> for live 6 to live 7 edu versions. Would someone with the regular version >> let me know what the upgrade price is for them? > > I'll be upgrading from Live 5, and the edu price is exactly the same as the > regular price. And, yes, it's also a lot more expensive than last time I > upgraded. > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 04:22:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AFE23BE7C; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8YmkrCFD9UIbHQsg/kPD0CCBuqRVk5yEwIFM1RpiAbs=; b=lFgD04PF+6S6ntra6329BLDQ3EqWr13pt8bRqmxdtVllo2kuRGofqLp3ttUIK7jqIL 5O0mkb9TT4nt+oL4nZ6STBtoDmAS2K//lOCxAqVJEwB69Ox+XoMLnTPxhjGNKxd/ygZQ scqO8yBzn9wHqio8kgFNQCWFgUR56RMzdSDD8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=lZT0OkopCKuwOoMDg3O/v7FDlJqkodUzdumswgcwcnonEKkD3awnBCLlQZ/K4duoHw Ia9iBIQdxelsT4ppjl714bWSl4r1YhzW62UlYuMs+yrt1YrytYX+bA7Prn0DSXlI4gJL BpKieCQ/73iL61CPeuxDUWsTPEw8Bc5RFv+d8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:22:58 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dbf9f24dc63a5b2a Message-ID: Subject: Re: Live 8 warping and sound quality impressions From: Nick To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Sorry, i feel foolish. the audio quality issues were due to transient mode being awful for full songs and live 7 only sounded better due to the 16th transient assumption working out well in most electronica tracks. complex pro sounds a bit better than live 7's complex in my tests, which is great. still wondering what people think about the new warping though. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Nick wrote: > I've been messing around with live 8 today, and overall I'm pretty > happy with the updates. I have yet to try out the looper, but right > now im trying all the new warping engine features to see how it will > work in a live dj situation. > > So far, I've actually been having a hard time getting the same audio > quality as I get in live 7 with warped tracks. A few vocal heavy > tracks made the vocals sound absolutely awful with the default > settings. I tried them in live 7 and they sounded way better. Has > anyone else had this experience? > > Additionally, what do people think of the new way of using warp > markers? Do you think Live's transient analysis and warping based on > that is significantly better than the use of warp markers? > > I'm particularly interested in hearing everyone's opinion on the last > questions, as warping is a very important feature for me. I'll be > trying out the looper later and reading everyone's impressions of that > in another thread. > > Thanks, > Nick > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 04:55:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 711C93BE7C; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:55:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:55:29 UTC Message-id: <21CF0CE8-549E-4088-B733-3E7C610B8414@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: Live 8 is out Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:55:13 -0500 References: <5839166F-EF04-4A58-A2D7-F418D4BFC246@mikecrain.com> <3928ED3B-5490-4B58-A0B5-A0D94F38A03D@verizon.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:55:29 +0000 (UTC) On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:40 PM, Nick wrote: > thanks guys. now the hard part - deciding whether to upgrade. I'm going to do it, but I'll be going from 5 to 8, so I'm probably way overdue. If you get it, let us know how it is? Good luck! Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 05:15:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B0463BE7F; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: New looping tune Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 00:15:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Here's a new looping tune I wrote in the context of of asking myself, "what does innovation sound like?" Not in what's innovative but how does innovation sound? (Like asking "what color is innovation?") http://thecavewall.posterous.com/what-innovation-sounds-like-to-me The song is also embedded in a post on innovation/creative problem solving and synesthesia where the context makes more sense: http://zenstorming.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/what-does-innovation-sound-like-to-you/ Enjoy! ~Peace~ plish www.michaelplishka.com www.zenstorming.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 07:07:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EB333BE82; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YiQI/FDAQqFr45WPTWMvbhcuV4wGAK4Y8KjaCA0Fcbs=; b=S0U2LSYjJdpqBLHz3JiL9zYIqOJ4DZ0CzoInVDqyCTCeHrlwZwDcqp1NXGDJB4+JMA iM5VEP5BrEcdY2AjxhVyBmO/VmGCjZgzL40yk8JWcE6RMRS8umRJ/Jt6HPjC2newnPeu lI1jpwgC1mxqT4owi8AAc3YY0f2KIl2KYUukI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZVV3WwYnE35TcT1TsudgYJAvGnJpeP3+AG5sDklAp2JXHSmYo4NmBuDNpr7imBmAVi SD+kRwQu144//ls/OUV8IiOaxAdELVXWapOPiBEwjbRAQidbBhLjxhBleXoC/Bkss6aQ mkwKxlSUreAwlx2J1e8PVQAVgwCc/+RatOpnw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:07:10 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0904030007i46f8db7dy22d8a5574f7ab248@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 warping and sound quality impressions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:07:11 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:22 AM, Nick wrote: > still wondering what people think about the new warping though. I think it's useful that the transit recognition is so fast and accurate now. At a Live workshop last week we could use the 8 beta and were just throwing loads of songs, clips ans sample snippets at Live and they all hooked up well in some sort of rhythmic relation. As for the resulting fidelity you will have to decide in each situation if it's usable within your context. Personally I use Logic for producing recorded music but I like Live as a real-time mess-around-live-mixer-router-playground for live playing with looping. Version 8 will even more define Live as that typical tool with the Max4Live and tempo directing Looper plug-in. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 07:36:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22DDD3BE7F; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=3RC06Jt6b53vKj65psjQQ/31BYI/pgxD9ISCp6qhMMc4LN5y/nvp3chhJERKmcX/O5R90woctEF1D/al72NUR1022jgZFUylUA/hI+poqmVGd2iCi5YF6V4rAIZsH7L/FbM6+D5/U8ZtJOdcAWxNtda8BhGOoDx+ei9DxqNg1FA= ; X-YMail-OSG: V.k6yB8VM1lAa1.j4B5QABw.ydON3cU6wy226DOXob4noVtpCTwjqPfl4T.PG1XxHkPlj7XsxGA4ONRXH..deuiTGVZ1kx3pargFQhqDJobnflePMyw4udEIjy36sVz9d6Sp09nA0OUWiO2F440gjlCkmV5pyLooXp_C6K2.7I1n8Sufl2nGUIWC.FumKMzHY5mcpXeYO2_qGHDtM6FTKaCJOL24lQ6mIBhUS85uBU6n8kaeDGxVNMlQXIJNwBrH9B5lpidyd8P_CG6j4EEWUi8aQR9ShkZkvMaHruyae81rgLziQoWiJCLXPXgD6UzB7aQU._2ATDpHqsA8MYI- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0904021937o700ef147jb8072fd52a4cf22a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5839166F-EF04-4A58-A2D7-F418D4BFC246@mikecrain.com> <588ce11d0904021937o700ef147jb8072fd52a4cf22a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-591456388 Message-Id: <0261B290-73E9-4834-BE0D-BE9DB1ACC9E1@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Live 8 is out Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:36:17 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:36:25 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-591456388 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Excuse my ignorance but how is it with odd time signatures?? Can it change time signature mid song??? Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 3 Apr 2009, at 03:37, Art Simon wrote: > I paid the $189 for the edu upgrade, and honestly it seems fair to me. > I've been using the Live 8 beta, and I like the looper. I can't wait > for Max for Live! > > As an aside though, I've got to say how impressed I am with the recent > upgrades to Stylus RMX, and at no cost! That really is a fantastic > piece of kit. > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Nick wrote: >> I was about to upgrade my copy, which is 7 (edu vers) but the >> upgrade price >> it lists is $189 which is way more than the $89 it previously >> listed for >> live 6 to live 7 edu versions. Would someone with the regular >> version let me >> know what the upgrade price is for them? >> >> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Mike Crain >> wrote: >>> >>> I haven't checked the Ableton website, but KVR Audio says it's out. >>> http://www.kvraudio.com/news/11306.html >>> Cheers! >>> Mike Crain >>> Percussionist/Composer >>> Sacramento, CA 95818 >>> mike@mikecrain.com >>> http://www.mikecrain.com >>> http://www.myspace.com/mikecraincom >>> "Not only will the harmonic possibilities of the overtones be >>> revealed >>> in all their splendor, but the use of certain interferences >>> created by the >>> partials will represent an appreciable contribution." >>> >>> - Edgard Varese >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > --Apple-Mail-2-591456388 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Excuse my ignorance but how is = it with odd time signatures??

Can it change time = signature mid song???

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 3 Apr 2009, = at 03:37, Art Simon wrote:

I paid the $189 for the edu upgrade, and honestly it = seems fair to me.
I've been using the Live 8 beta, = and I like the looper. I can't wait
for Max for = Live!

As an aside though, I've got to say how impressed I = am with the recent
upgrades to Stylus RMX, and = at no cost! That really is a fantastic
piece of = kit.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Nick <ParadoxQuine@gmail.com> = wrote:
I was about = to upgrade my copy, which is 7 (edu vers) but the upgrade = price
it lists is $189 which is way = more than the $89 it previously listed for
live 6 = to live 7 edu versions. Would someone with the regular version let = me
know what the upgrade price is for = them?

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Mike Crain <mike@mikecrain.com> wrote:
=
I haven't checked the Ableton = website, but KVR Audio says it's out.
Cheers!
Mike Crain
Sacramento, = CA 95818
"Not only will the harmonic = possibilities of the overtones be revealed
in all = their splendor,=A0but the use of certain interferences created by = the
partials=A0will represent = an=A0appreciable contribution."

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-=A0Edgard Varese











=



--=A0
Art = Simon
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= --Apple-Mail-2-591456388-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 07:53:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66E023BE82; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1CN5E8EtnAJ3pVdzprKKfAHUq8cy3KEeP5Zpy1wtefc=; b=JX23jnUSN7ZlLlBJ8WnJGQPnPoQRkliLuwpl4li07GYGMP6DiJQOXFEpgXw0+GhXYj YcAV1cKViceHJmrFn7XjPzb1tf9+WIaSmuotS3x0b575I8knhna6sB0un1sHX+RccKJF j1CGm3RGpg5aU2aVkgjp2TsjgvSIKaCkq1Q+0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pBpqiJdfsPuNsoHG8Mj1VvRsgo8jiqa1X4nhvdM73JEmApnjTS8JdjRdFTx3c26jaS lR1rt3cXfWZzbfLjTKNbxy9lAO58i6UuiyFCsiiZjZPuq+hp7igJlS8Kx18kH5BtNrjl KQ6CIQqOfx9yPgvHkycCdtuWjj+3JcpH1qWbo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0261B290-73E9-4834-BE0D-BE9DB1ACC9E1@btinternet.com> References: <5839166F-EF04-4A58-A2D7-F418D4BFC246@mikecrain.com> <588ce11d0904021937o700ef147jb8072fd52a4cf22a@mail.gmail.com> <0261B290-73E9-4834-BE0D-BE9DB1ACC9E1@btinternet.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:53:13 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0904030053y1b63dd10jfc30db0db17d3256@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 is out From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:53:14 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Matt Stevens wrote: > Can it change time signature mid song??? Good question! I did not know so I checked the Live 8 manual and it says: "Live's time signature can be changed at any point in the Arrangement by using time signature markers." "In many ways, time signature markers look and function like locators; they can be moved with the mouse or with your computer keyboard's arrow keys, and their value can be changed using the Edit menu's Edit Value command (or with the Ctrl R (PC) / R (Mac) shortcut). They can be also be deleted using the or Delete key, or via delete commands in the Edit and Create menus. " However, it seems all this applies to the arrange view and I guess most loopists prefer running Live by the mixer view. But as long as you are only looping - i.e. not using any full bar length audio or midi clips in Live - you can always change to any time signature by adjusting your looper's resolution on-the-fly. I use Mobius and it draws on the EDP context with "8ths Per Cycle". So If loop want to start looping in 5/4 I siimply set that value to 10 (as an eight note resolution for quantized loop manipulation). When I play in 7/8 I use to set it to 14 etc etc. They I always have a quick-button for swapping Mobius resolution to a way shorter value for more granular resolution (like 64 for 4/4, 56 for 7/8 etc etc) --> Bottom line: If you stick with Live's Looper plug-in you may change to any odd time signature by adjusting the quantize value (either globally or in Looper). Your favorite quantize values can be mapped to a MIDI button hand pad on the side. If you want "real canned drum beats" to go with your looping you can use Stylus RMX 1.7 and assign the same MIDI button hand pad to the relating time signatures (as we know, version 1.7 can instantly re-mould any loop into a specified time signature - odd, odder or not at all odd) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 08:07:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AAA33BE85; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:07:07 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=WMxWuf+gKre7di0YZWbg2KDArm5YRaW5iuEQhRz9stXDNxXycFyB/tCktbDi5OBQQt4NbmWGXA9sZezwRUDt5RlAxMU7jFukPCTUB534OnFfSHQsbVWpjGB1NkepwJ7TljZqQLt7mNNTuVKTu70djNaOmUo3xVI+fsghGrG/u04= ; X-YMail-OSG: POUAH9MVM1n4bsDlxAMZ0k6xHHqmd0NoII_8JShVDQJw9x_N96uqNFx9sIQdV.eZbEhPFBSxEJsfR_U_Dd6SxorRI3bpX0pLPxMRtmC97Ro4sJC8fALptGxO0.DpfdiUD4SBKYdndsxcHzBHZHIfKrpHGgonIXipYFwXiz7jytgdlVG.fgJLbW2ZmNmyH.r5uaq00EuYEh8LzzsSYzI1Zwy9aOvtf6plo_QHoyNXiGCdrZ1rUP3795xGOJ_wt50Zmjtx_lxiFcQbdpbfie5cSYXM3lbx.YCOt2r2d7hsaz_sHRd.TKgyeUb8 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0904030053y1b63dd10jfc30db0db17d3256@mail.gmail.com> References: <5839166F-EF04-4A58-A2D7-F418D4BFC246@mikecrain.com> <588ce11d0904021937o700ef147jb8072fd52a4cf22a@mail.gmail.com> <0261B290-73E9-4834-BE0D-BE9DB1ACC9E1@btinternet.com> <66f9cc1e0904030053y1b63dd10jfc30db0db17d3256@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-592896427 Message-Id: <972CCA87-C52F-4235-875A-44B6210A7ECB@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Live 8 is out Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:00:17 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:07:07 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-592896427 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Thanks man Thats the answer i needed to sell my EDP - EBAY here i come - any offers? Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 3 Apr 2009, at 08:53, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Matt Stevens > wrote: >> Can it change time signature mid song??? > > Good question! I did not know so I checked the Live 8 manual and it > says: > > "Live's time signature can be changed at any point in the Arrangement > by using time signature > markers." > > "In many ways, time signature markers look and function like locators; > they can be moved with > the mouse or with your computer keyboard's arrow keys, and their value > can be changed > using the Edit menu's Edit Value command (or with the Ctrl R (PC) / > R (Mac) > shortcut). They can be also be deleted using the or Delete key, or > via delete > commands in the Edit and Create menus. " > > However, it seems all this applies to the arrange view and I guess > most loopists prefer running Live by the mixer view. But as long as > you are only looping - i.e. not using any full bar length audio or > midi clips in Live - you can always change to any time signature by > adjusting your looper's resolution on-the-fly. I use Mobius and it > draws on the EDP context with "8ths Per Cycle". So If loop want to > start looping in 5/4 I siimply set that value to 10 (as an eight note > resolution for quantized loop manipulation). When I play in 7/8 I use > to set it to 14 etc etc. They I always have a quick-button for > swapping Mobius resolution to a way shorter value for more granular > resolution (like 64 for 4/4, 56 for 7/8 etc etc) > > --> Bottom line: > If you stick with Live's Looper plug-in you may change to any odd time > signature by adjusting the quantize value (either globally or in > Looper). Your favorite quantize values can be mapped to a MIDI button > hand pad on the side. If you want "real canned drum beats" to go with > your looping you can use Stylus RMX 1.7 and assign the same MIDI > button hand pad to the relating time signatures (as we know, version > 1.7 can instantly re-mould any loop into a specified time signature - > odd, odder or not at all odd) > > Per > --Apple-Mail-6-592896427 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks man=A0

Thats the answer i needed to sell my = EDP - EBAY here i come - any offers?

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 3 Apr 2009, = at 08:53, Per Boysen wrote:

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Matt = Stevens
Can it change time signature mid song???
=

Good question! I did not know so I checked the Live = 8 manual and it says:
"Live's time signature can be = changed at any point in the Arrangement
by using = time signature
markers."

"In many = ways, time signature markers look and function like locators;
they can be moved with
the = mouse or with your computer keyboard's arrow keys, and their = value
can be changed
using the Edit menu's Edit Value command (or with = the Ctrl R (PC) / R (Mac)
shortcut). = They can be also be deleted using the or Delete key, or via = delete
commands in the Edit and Create = menus. "

However, it seems all this applies to the arrange = view and I guess
most loopists prefer running = Live by the mixer view. But as long as
you are = only looping - i.e. not using any full bar length audio or
midi clips in Live - you can always change to any = time signature by
adjusting your looper's = resolution on-the-fly. I use Mobius and it
draws on = the EDP context with "8ths Per Cycle". So If loop want to
start looping in 5/4 I siimply set that value to 10 = (as an eight note
resolution for quantized loop = manipulation). When I play in 7/8 I use
to set = it to 14 etc etc. They I always have a quick-button for
swapping Mobius resolution to a way shorter value = for more granular
resolution (like 64 for 4/4, 56 = for 7/8 etc etc)

--> Bottom line:
If you stick = with Live's Looper plug-in you may change to any odd time
signature by adjusting the quantize value (either = globally or in
Looper). Your favorite quantize = values can be mapped to a MIDI button
hand pad = on the side. If you want "real canned drum beats" to go with
your looping you can use Stylus RMX 1.7 and assign = the same MIDI
button hand pad to the relating = time signatures (as we know, version
1.7 can = instantly re-mould any loop into a specified time signature -
odd, odder or not at all odd)


=

= --Apple-Mail-6-592896427-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 08:39:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4203C3BE7C; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:39:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TaBzgPWBNzyEkfMXgh6bROvLzJflhijCaQESqGxhYfo=; b=nIASaso+dz2c0HQhXOjCekcCTZ5OHkWl/tNNx8QzjbSw7awrdw83Qy+kpFwWiA7hZ7 Y19Vfqce1C1jILDMVWMMsYpZz9ep3Fb3Dbeqm2UZxDsbNDtBh8Jr0K2iSKiP9ItEsj0f 1DNsvweruurUlaK4a4CbvSw7eoqbW76Zid/jw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FLquXOyMKmiKvwSfR03BDWXWYZ9h2LPoACLAhHh1lhTumpkrkfUszzzDDUU65UtGWX ZFcJNjcVL3m8iWePoN/sc6PXcKh/sUntcbS/3J4NgAJIhI8fczRymscgGDMXRpevu0Fx RbB0JyNjjdggavqFh4umKY4oIbyikLRXuZIyE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83de5a8a0903310333p276cbed8qc4201732ac37b3b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <83de5a8a0903310333p276cbed8qc4201732ac37b3b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 01:39:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Songs starting with drums From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:39:20 +0000 (UTC) This is a bit of an odd question - throw most rock and roll cd's into the player and you'll find at least 2 songs that begin with just drumming. Your examples strike me as the sort will people will recognize the source within a few notes - is this intentional? Anyway, yeah, listen to a few rock records, and you're sure to find lots. Or just do a google search for "drum loops" and you'll find many free downloads of 'em. (Don't ask me why loops of drum machine are more common than loops of real drums though.) In Hip-hop, finding good drum loops from records is considered an art form - "crate digging". http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Study/9077/cratedigging.html Meanwhile, here's a video that's sort of on your subject, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac It's the story of the Amen Break - something you've certainly heard used in dozens of different songs (maybe even hundreds) without realizing it was the same sample. I found this mind blowingly educational about the state of electronic music - the huge amount of music that's based around one drum loop. On one hand, it gets my heart all big about the art of sampling. On the other, I'm dumbfounded by what it reveals about Drum n Bass music. Can any DnB fans help me out? How could an entire genre of musicians use the exact same drum loop as the central focus of so many of their songs - for like 15 years? Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Cameron McCormack wrote: > Hi folks, > > This has to have been a topic before now but didn't have any joy in the > archive. > > I've started to try and put a few songs together looping bass, rhythm and > lead parts together on my Digitech JamMan. It's all good fun, but it sounds > sort of empty without any drums. The JamMan has a few simple click tracks, > but they're only any good for keeping time, and they don't become a part of > the saved loop. > > I'm lacking a drum machine and have no intention of buying one at his stage, > so what i've done is taken songs that start with just a few bars of drums on > their own, cut that out in a WAV editor, made a little drum loop and ported > that to the JamMan to play over that. It works pretty well for my ears. > > So, my question is - does anybody have suggestions of songs that would be > good for carry out this process on? Drums on their own, no other > instruments. > > All I've found after a brief look at my own music is Iggy Pop - Lust for > Life and Led Zep - Bonzo's Montreux. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 09:55:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18A1F3BE78; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=94msN4gVf6Ug2vOfSVYhfAtLuc77ASjbyYq0WT/SwxY=; b=rbf0s9jDDUXyoDjJQsrt8CxaRadu1TpLY3IDLb0L4dcNwGYwe6eLKPVN5vLsEtkCkf 71jibF026sOndssSwu0XRVmK7eZQBAbAOIYn+3NtBPr3dX3sAsU5qer89V0eLwpp+7GV 7p0i17XUc9sOD0noxFkCDSh1oxaDnJft3oAvI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tKeq7HcwQCYittozCVuGd9gXeU+hUhUvGN26BNE/2dBLpzMu0+qtXgqlFmBqxgoY8L sGGCJRPQr8/+T8VfPmtCJ2z/MO/h49SiHytwW2KzElETw65p318K3zoif0U4DnJTn1XW sdCDBCqZ/weFkAXlPVDjEsAaLt2u32EfIwjGc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <83de5a8a0903310333p276cbed8qc4201732ac37b3b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:55:00 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0904030255h52252884vbd825f81a83a6af3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Songs starting with drums From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3nOeZB.A.Z9C.0zd1JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:55:01 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > It's the story of the Amen Break /////// > what it reveals about Drum n Bass music. Can any DnB fans help me out? > How could an entire genre of musicians use the exact same drum loop as > the central focus of so many of their songs - for like 15 years? I think it is because (1) that is a very good drum break and that (2) someone just started using it! As we sometimes forget on this list, many music creators like to copy a vibe from someone else and for a dj-rooted laptop-ist drum breaks are essential in that regard. Sort of (3) "tagging" the music as part of a certain genre ("scene"). Personally I avoid using drums for the same - but reversed - reason (ambition: staying out of any genre as much as possible. Of course an impossible mission, but fun anyway). And also for being better prepared to loop together with percussionists on-the-fly. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 10:20:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7376C3BE82; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iGxzMlKlE1vWNg8Va4Qjn5ajGHnV8p9YofD4qqRC0tw=; b=Zex2vqiBZ9xT2mFz69rPlO4cErOPfEJAyhT8DAMhrMgCWDRgP98Z3wSynKsmZQLDPy 2MsXP6SvD+ZQXQT3/mXTrn77Dxnlphx2Sr8DIVNqTTCLK5Ug7eIs/ZvXZbWi0FOi9kVo Lt7D0MS2epcmCrYATgG+js83/e74igwSHEEYk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fAuasjKgPvCeqfU7NkIjgMOcNt8PP5cOY+SmckDJ9QDvHLxooI7j72j+vKE5FwXiPa 3Y5SK/s+tyAuOnOc3rO+rf5SWThxbfRBRFxfE0IxS21OA4N1+eRWOtLdgH+ZwTMOXTRz WzVMy0vzPlL6xCwuUXO9baL3GKhiNdtiY7ONA= Message-ID: <49D5E2B9.60905@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:19:37 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s References: <274085.18774.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903120811v473ce34en7d14bf01ea127e43@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903120815of223der5a70a46700853cad@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0903120815of223der5a70a46700853cad@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Art Simon schrieb: > I'm curious, is the "sizzle" introduced by mp3 encoding similar to the > "bitcrushing" the bitrman effect uses? This reminds me on the anecdote where the king asks his "scientists" why does throwing a dead fish into a full glass makes it overflow, but if you throw a living fish into it it doesn't? They came up with 20 different theories explaining it, and not a single one did the test... I never ever heard a sizzle in mp3's, and I know nobody who does. (assuming we are not talking about 64mbit/sec mp3s...) What is he talking about? I tried to find original works of Mr. Berger about his research, and couldn't find anything but these claims in different "news" sites. (Never trust statistics you didn't fake yourself). My own tests revealed, I don't hear a difference on good headphones between original and a 192kb mp3 for "normal music". As far as I know the usual double blind tests reveal the same even for expert listeners, they might need maybe 256 kB. I bet my ears are bad, but I don't care...;-) Hearing a sizzle should be prominent I guess. Of course if you subtract the compressed sound from the original, you might hear a sizzle, but that's exactly that part of the sound which gets masked, and which is actually missing in the compressed sound... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 10:39:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A3943BE80; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:39:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZcgpF6bRIcFCOpNhDGTCMlC8BT+rFHGkr7R7GGzlQ3w=; b=nHSa/2lld9r+gKAqRbQyDgB2ObsyUuzwy6/UzcEZzhgJeB/cdizIYbOaF9NO8WSQ9t U2T4D1TtUra/4Zv2SmbvlmKStYNWkpnZ1GyBKdluq35t2HZrcQJh653czsj8jlF01oEz qiZ2WLxaOKBB7OupY8OFmHrto8h3fe/ywUfdk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ss88TC/8juubLlyU8UhgdEtmJE9Zv++qyewCwkgUfJf++BJVCTkDODXr8/o2RVYH6j Trmyhy9SrEkV4AjNiSHpD2o1MKfK5GMTkZ1+Lku+uP9P0yqYJKmVdMX6IuYjxy8tnI3k Nv1LTEVaPZrS2moGx0QLEd70HHDdeg9rs310g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49D5E2B9.60905@googlemail.com> References: <274085.18774.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903120811v473ce34en7d14bf01ea127e43@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903120815of223der5a70a46700853cad@mail.gmail.com> <49D5E2B9.60905@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:39:25 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1eb86945f650466a42982 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:39:26 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd1eb86945f650466a42982 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2009/4/3 Stefan Tiedje > Art Simon schrieb: > >> I'm curious, is the "sizzle" introduced by mp3 encoding similar to the >> "bitcrushing" the bitrman effect uses? >> > > This reminds me on the anecdote where the king asks his "scientists" why > does throwing a dead fish into a full glass makes it overflow, but if yo= u > throw a living fish into it it doesn't? > They came up with 20 different theories explaining it, and not a single o= ne > did the test... > may you elaborate more on this, stefan? ... yes, the fishes and the glass, not te mp3. > > Stefan > > -- > Les Ondes M=E9morielles---------x-- > --_____-----------|-----------|-- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()----------TJ Shredder > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --000e0cd1eb86945f650466a42982 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

2009/4/3 Stefan Tiedje <stefantiedje@googlemail= .com>
Art Simon schrieb:

I'm curious, is the "sizzle" introduced by mp3 encoding simil= ar to the
"bitcrushing" the bitrman effect uses?

This reminds me on the anecdote where the king asks his "scientists&qu= ot; why =A0does throwing a dead fish into a full glass makes it overflow, b= ut if you throw a living fish into it it doesn't?
They came up with 20 different theories explaining it, and not a single one= did the test...


may you elaborate more on this, stefan? ... yes, = the fishes and the glass, not te mp3.
=A0

Stefan

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--000e0cd1eb86945f650466a42982-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 10:40:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4184F3BE77; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 172881586/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.163.139/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.163.139 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsYBACKE1UlPTqOL/2dsb2JhbAAIv0kIj36CQwiBMgaHSw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,319,1235952000"; d="scan'208";a="172881586" Message-ID: <49D5E9F2.6050408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:50:26 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s References: <274085.18774.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903120811v473ce34en7d14bf01ea127e43@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903120815of223der5a70a46700853cad@mail.gmail.com> <49D5E2B9.60905@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <49D5E2B9.60905@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Of course if you subtract the compressed sound from the original, you > might hear a sizzle, but that's exactly that part of the sound which > gets masked, and which is actually missing in the compressed sound... > > Stefan > The (dubious anyway) theory of masking doesn't take into account stereo image. So the "masked" sizzle can be audible. ..but as to whether there's really a sizzle, or it's just that the sounds that are present lose definition I'm not going to claim :-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 10:56:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA1CE3BE87; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+xdzaFkR8hlsHlc1Jg6hw9XKsO/8HPezzmtpVmgwfvM=; b=UkJC2Xq0cKJuZSX1M9iS6Yit6qDFgOvj8htORmkH6RJe82Kk7pqW8P5hHbeQpvcSQt 0RgmkJL1426WBCe/4mIAcbcKZfVoV2Ezcy4XJuVoc9Ep8MxTl4mz0Xl7JzR+PcbMGhOr qOTRhtWDQlxuNcYkiQ0dfgxtmPqZhWx7qlDyU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=f6hQ/0sqV9v4q/qiIWKLNH4hGi0ZrI+B7eCqTnCjo1rbf+8qkDuFwKkMIqDv2K6iSh kWs58JxdPEi87AGvXw0ovbe5U7NtkW37wgM9LUk+8sfR29nSN6m0Dd31K/kCqgDOyI9u O4vNirBHcc1M/gwaSYdi7YGepiI4YtO0BPl4M= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49D5E2B9.60905@googlemail.com> References: <274085.18774.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903120811v473ce34en7d14bf01ea127e43@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903120815of223der5a70a46700853cad@mail.gmail.com> <49D5E2B9.60905@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:56:56 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0904030356r15f00876xac072607110d3863@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2JgdPD.A.peF.4te1JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:56:56 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > > I never ever heard a sizzle in mp3's, and I know nobody who does. The word "sizzle" might be misleading. What mp3 compression destroys, in my listening experience, is rather the deep bass and general definition of stereo image. I must say though that with the 256 kpbs mp3 compression I think music sounds ok even played over my production rig of active Genelec 8030 plus matched sub bass speaker (a different listening situation than headphones). If using AAC as the compression I think you get even better sound per kilobyte. Never the less I use Apple's lossless format for archiving and listening. It is about half the file compared to uncompressed WAVE or AIFF. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 11:24:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B09A13BE8C; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <83de5a8a0903310333p276cbed8qc4201732ac37b3b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:24:35 +0200 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0904030424p14080107y1140d3cdb5866e9c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Songs starting with drums From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6de003301d3300466a4cc4f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:24:51 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6de003301d3300466a4cc4f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Matt Davignon wrot= e: > Meanwhile, here's a video that's sort of on your subject, > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5SaFTm2bcac > > FANTASTIC!!! What a great docu... really really interesting... I have had and used that break myself... many times actually..!! On the other, I'm dumbfounded by > what it reveals about Drum n Bass music. Can any DnB fans help me out? > How could an entire genre of musicians use the exact same drum loop as > the central focus of so many of their songs - for like 15 years? > Well thats an interesting question, and I wonder whether you thought it up before or AFTER you heard this documentary? Because, as a very big fan of Drum and Bass myself, and someone who was there, in grimy dark basements in Brixton, while scary (to me) young black guys rapped (raggamuffin stylee) over (what seemed to me) sped up records, at the end of the 80=B4s early ninties... I became hooked, or facinated at least, by this genre that (at the time) I just did'nt get. I went to lots and lots and lots of shows, all the time staying very sober, as I was in places where often I was the only white guy, (or usually with ONE other that I would drag along for support and genrally would not come again)... YES at the time I felt everything sounded simerlar, like they were always using the same drums, BUT... and it= s a HUGE but, and one that I can't quite explain, certainly dont want to use an argument like "Well theres alot of music that uses the same 3 chords ove= r 12bars"... Jungle and now B and B just is NOT all the same... its true that I cant always tell the diference between one artist and another, but thats whats interesting about the genre.. its ABOUT the re-manipulation of the same sources, especially now when there is an interest in the genuine, or old skool. Now the Amen break is used more than ever! Often without manipulation, its become THE signiture Jungle sound... anything that doesnt use it, is well... IDM (a term that we just dont like in the UK... too well... pretentious)... Back to my question to Matt, did you wonder about the central focus of the genre on this one loop, BEFORE you knew that the genre used this one loop, or did the genre seem quite ok before that... I dont think it matters that its all the same loop... do we always have to be as diverse as possible, do we always have to celebrate our differences, why not all get together and admit you all want to do the same thing.. make fucked up beats with Amen, and chuck some bone shaking sinewave basses under it... I know I did for a while... --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --0016e6de003301d3300466a4cc4f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Matt Da= vignon <matt= davignon@gmail.com> wrote:
Meanwhile, here's a video that's so= rt of on your subject,
= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5SaFTm2bcac


FANTASTIC!!! What a great docu...=A0 really rea= lly interesting... I have had and used that break myself... many times actu= ally..!!


On the other, I'm dumbfounded by
what it reveals about Drum n Bass music. Can any DnB fans help me out?
How could an entire genre of musicians use the exact same drum loop as
the central focus of so many of their songs - for like 15 years?

Well thats an interesting question, and I wonder whether y= ou thought it up before or AFTER you heard this documentary? Because, as a = very big fan of Drum and Bass myself, and someone who was there, in grimy d= ark basements in Brixton, while scary (to me) young black guys rapped (ragg= amuffin stylee) over (what seemed to me) sped up records, at the end of the= 80=B4s early ninties... I became hooked, or facinated at least, by this ge= nre that (at the time) I just did'nt get. I went to lots and lots and l= ots of shows, all the time staying very sober, as I was in places where oft= en I was the only white guy, (or usually with ONE other that I would drag a= long for support and genrally would not come again)... YES at the time I fe= lt everything sounded simerlar, like they were always using the same drums,= BUT... and its a HUGE but, and one that I can't quite explain, certain= ly dont want to use an argument like "Well theres alot of music that u= ses the same 3 chords over 12bars"... Jungle and now B and B just is N= OT all the same... its true that I cant always tell the diference between o= ne artist and another, but thats whats interesting about the genre.. its AB= OUT the re-manipulation of the same sources, especially now when there is a= n interest in the genuine, or old skool. Now the Amen break is used more th= an ever! Often without manipulation, its become THE signiture Jungle sound.= .. anything that doesnt use it, is well... IDM (a term that we just dont li= ke in the UK... too well... pretentious)...

Back to my question to Matt, did you wonder about the central focus of = the genre on this one loop, BEFORE you knew that the genre used this one lo= op, or did the genre seem quite ok before that... I dont think it matters t= hat its all the same loop... do we always have to be as diverse as possible= , do we always have to celebrate our differences, why not all get together = and admit you all want to do the same thing.. make fucked up beats with Ame= n, and chuck some bone shaking sinewave basses under it... I know I did for= a while...



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http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--0016e6de003301d3300466a4cc4f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 11:53:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF44E3BE8A; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ng2QNBwANhVxGoQqYWf13ARq5CNHbXNayOU8PfAI3BmFpphoGGTz6Eua7PEVA3pv; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0904030356r15f00876xac072607110d3863@mail.gmail.com> References: <274085.18774.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903120811v473ce34en7d14bf01ea127e43@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903120815of223der5a70a46700853cad@mail.gmail.com> <49D5E2B9.60905@googlemail.com> <66f9cc1e0904030356r15f00876xac072607110d3863@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:45:48 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7954f499b6f42122aa468e02e8b5502c65350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:53:35 +0000 (UTC) You should record a 20-20k sweep tone and convert it to MP3. You would be surprised. >On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Stefan Tiedje > wrote: >> >> I never ever heard a sizzle in mp3's, and I know nobody who does. > > >The word "sizzle" might be misleading. What mp3 compression destroys, >in my listening experience, is rather the deep bass and general >definition of stereo image. I must say though that with the 256 kpbs >mp3 compression I think music sounds ok even played over my production >rig of active Genelec 8030 plus matched sub bass speaker (a different >listening situation than headphones). If using AAC as the compression >I think you get even better sound per kilobyte. Never the less I use >Apple's lossless format for archiving and listening. It is about half >the file compared to uncompressed WAVE or AIFF. > >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.boysen.se >www.perboysen.com -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 11:53:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DB6D3BE9E; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=kfsRG7M97i5JsZtkmMKVgPmKXoKfv5FJ+YYyT4vrcEQX/ddo5cc9KmpxLgyvfIkn; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <49D5E2B9.60905@googlemail.com> References: <274085.18774.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903120811v473ce34en7d14bf01ea127e43@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903120815of223der5a70a46700853cad@mail.gmail.com> <49D5E2B9.60905@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:46:41 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7954f499b6f42122aa649d63d61092c35f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:53:36 +0000 (UTC) >Art Simon schrieb: >>I'm curious, is the "sizzle" introduced by mp3 encoding similar to the >>"bitcrushing" the bitrman effect uses? > >This reminds me on the anecdote where the king asks his "scientists" >why does throwing a dead fish into a full glass makes it overflow, >but if you throw a living fish into it it doesn't? >They came up with 20 different theories explaining it, and not a >single one did the test... Ah, this would explain WHY the glass is half empty..! -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 13:09:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A64CE3BE8F; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rGfnRRxNtRx84V15gtbcvj5PKlPtTQBNX5Wz4t/+/F4=; b=NQYSOHzI2N7Cg6ikHdwqWl2w4S590WAF09gf8Fk7fDDM8qaFYVzHyEx17jsgOPzOPd dESEzNNPa8N3j5ERa7dxYSAxDnolDoEa0olx3CQsG48oprRMvudG+JbjSTPZiHA9qot1 w8oqEFFJiT/R0zADAOnjOoHxxoLp2Q+XaP5Fs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Mbz9jmqI0stMVE9XEbtaTsNBADt0ehsv//Aey8TTiO0TuyIkK1eCI0RvRMn9dX6tci 9qSgah/VSaquyoMGpf3KIU4a/mVWqzG1COsNtbvVue6593iVUebd7NMy25UqPqPyuWwM 5ZMzZr7SAWpZMzIuGBiEVaiZRukmHrb6Ysnd0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <83de5a8a0903310333p276cbed8qc4201732ac37b3b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:09:31 +0100 Message-ID: <83de5a8a0904030609q96de85do160ae15def51f22e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Songs starting with drums From: Cameron McCormack To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163642702b516ea20466a643bf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:09:48 +0000 (UTC) --00163642702b516ea20466a643bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Matt, The examples were just as a description of what kind of thing I was looking for, not specifically chosen because of how distinctive they are. I suppose the less distinctive the drum loop is, the more original the end result can sound... Finding songs isn't a problem, I was just looking to start a bit of discussion on it, seemed to me that the topic could be useful for budding bedroom-loopists! Also to get some new ideas, stuff i don't have myself. Great vid by the way, very interesting. >This is a bit of an odd question - throw most rock and roll cd's into >the player and you'll find at least 2 songs that begin with just >drumming. Your examples strike me as the sort will people will >recognize the source within a few notes - is this intentional? --00163642702b516ea20466a643bf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Matt,

The examples were just as a description of what kind of thing I was looking for, not specifically chosen because of how distinctive they are. I suppose the less distinctive the drum loop is, the more original the end result can sound...

Finding songs isn't a problem, I was just looking to start a bit of discussion on it, seemed to me that the topic could be useful for budding bedroom-loopists! Also to get some new ideas, stuff i don't have myself.

Great vid by the way, very interesting.

>This is a bit of an odd question - throw most rock and roll cd's into
>the player and you'll find at least 2 songs that begin with just
>drumming. Your examples strike me as the sort will people will
>recognize the source within a few notes - is this intentional?
--00163642702b516ea20466a643bf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 13:31:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 668753BE93; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:31:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 173526687/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.233.170/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.233.170 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgcCAHOs1UlPRumq/2dsb2JhbAAIz3KEDwaHUA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,319,1235952000"; d="scan'208";a="173526687" Message-ID: <49D61208.4000206@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:41:28 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s References: <274085.18774.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903120811v473ce34en7d14bf01ea127e43@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903120815of223der5a70a46700853cad@mail.gmail.com> <49D5E2B9.60905@googlemail.com> <66f9cc1e0904030356r15f00876xac072607110d3863@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:31:42 +0000 (UTC) Charles Zwicky wrote: > > You should record a 20-20k sweep tone and convert it to MP3. You would > be surprised. > You're right, I was :-) Didn't expect it to reproduce a smooth sweep. It's a good test, but doesn't show up the limitations at all. (dunnow, maybe in a better listening environment, there certainly were a few artefacts revealed when mixing out of phase with the original) Next I tried with white noise, and the metallic sizzle appeared like magic. andy butler ( tests done with Audition, and mid-fi speakers, sitting by noisey pc. mp3 at 128bps well, really it was 64bps mono,) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 13:59:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12E933BE95; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 707 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:59:35 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1238767174; l=1807; s=domk; d=christojota.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject: References:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=ZZr/BTfWs9sfFoepchiPR1O9e/kgi8/Czb6O1bwElfA=; b=dLgfFtxQYoB5IdnNaQrZ1f5JBxJm+HvC6lq2JzAGNDJNhby/ozU33vr+/ml7mZXM3Mf /h60bCjAmFi/uWyL4epDXTdz9qafeMBcvr9O1LGu7NCX+8WJ42vIhQGhK9w897U2RD7RU SHsQNG4+IwaSE+p8TO67fh6t/RoTwyMch+o= X-RZG-AUTH: :L2QWfFOIePcNBmV0yywuLUHS8OM2DDVxTuoYQATZ0ef73CyxOAEvvWjBP9U= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Message-ID: <01f101c9b463$23932e60$0201a8c0@Toshiba> From: To: References: <49D57C86.1080003@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:37:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4927.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4927.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:59:35 +0000 (UTC) By the way: Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe this year? Does anyone know ? Greets from Cologne Christo www.christojota.de ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 5:12 AM Subject: Re: Las Vegas International Live Looping Festival > You are too kind, Rick. I just with I could do more. It is frustrating. I > really want to make a difference and generate more appreciation for the > avant-garde and experimental music arts, and give artists more gratification > and credit, but at times I feel as if I were Sisyphus pushing his rock up > the hill constantly. The demand for this type of art is miniscule, and > promoting it is like planning a goat rodeo. :) But in the end, I am very > grateful to be able to get such fine musicians here in Boise, Idaho. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Kris wrote: > > "A guy can dream that some day there will be a plethera of wealthy patrons > > of the looping and avant-garde music arts. :) Believe me, if I were > > indepedentally wealthy, I would not hestitate a minute to do something > > like this at least once a year. I'd be flying you all in first class and > > putting you up in 5 star hotels. I've love to do that." > > > > > > Geez, Kris, you practically do this already with all your heroic > > attempts to get granting and funding for your beautiful > > festival of Experimental and Improvisation Music in Boise, > > annually......................I think of you as one of the selfless heroes > > in this > > kind of music.......................you and the Matt Davignons and others > > who have worked so hard to present new music and live looping > > music. > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 14:09:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CDAC3BEA9; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=hQbKDu1P3NA48l2ygeGwEH+ZhyBfdJamH49NEm1Y9anDuf5dBJJb4fJAs52y+i9/; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <49D61208.4000206@tiscali.co.uk> References: <274085.18774.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903120811v473ce34en7d14bf01ea127e43@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903120815of223der5a70a46700853cad@mail.gmail.com> <49D5E2B9.60905@googlemail.com> <66f9cc1e0904030356r15f00876xac072607110d3863@mail.gmail.com> <49D61208.4000206@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:08:37 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec790552f12495975254c2b770f77da782bc350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Andy, thanks for putting some fish in the glasses.... The result of the process is not as bandwidth limiting as people assume (except at very low bit rates the HF response is filtered to prevent aliasing). I am surprised by how frequently people say that they think MP3s have no bass. It simply isn't true. The white noise test will show up artifacts because the process is based on a theory of perceptual encoding which states that certain loud sounds will mask certain quiet sounds and this is determined on a frequency by frequency basis. (in FFT 'bins'). A swept sine wave allows the process to deal with a single frequency at a time. Given equal lengths, I wonder which test signal makes a smaller mp3 file. CZ >Charles Zwicky wrote: >> >>You should record a 20-20k sweep tone and convert it to MP3. You >>would be surprised. >> > >You're right, I was :-) > >Didn't expect it to reproduce a smooth sweep. > >It's a good test, but doesn't show up the limitations at all. >(dunnow, maybe in a better listening environment, there certainly were a > few artefacts revealed when mixing out of phase with the original) >Next I tried with white noise, >and the metallic sizzle appeared like magic. > > > > >andy butler > >( tests done with Audition, and mid-fi speakers, sitting > by noisey pc. mp3 at 128bps > well, really it was 64bps mono,) -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 14:30:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B2CD3BE98; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:30:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:30:54 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: European Live Looping Festival '09 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:30:56 +0000 (UTC) > By the way: Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe > this year? 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 14:57:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 421B43BEAE; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BPpip3WpbbJtjdEU98M+alSuU8iAw2Sn8Gtg6A89PTI=; b=wiSpYyryK1VqOHD6YjqcTBvS3M+cTVJg4tRWEj8emI4Sm6N/8CHsCSXsBisL/Hw4u6 ce+zplGqHXJxneflcQ0RgV0juLnj+sz75jXG1UorOItVx1b4EdlO7VKKJlFqzff80yAl HW0QMo1UvmAYjvfxgnVtOH10HbxBXwlsMAYtE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=PtX7H/IbPW4p5vGtS12d7/IlgTGU75ndJRedmurVTPwTsWqXvTmYvWys5QfUeRyodK HjGzmlmXb4AyRbo5K39hwSc4NjL2xdLX4TmhyETKpRUUpj+lNvsEQSr/b/Bn2v/I0SR/ C80fKZ+fBAPL3emBUdvkhZf0FdTH+IWLHWnDg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:57:10 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0904030757o12177424na96dfa53e12f89a0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Firewire vs USB (WAS: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Hey Luis, > Ive actually been quite happy with it,but the recent problem with my firewire problems also made me realize how fragile this things are and think what if that happened while i wes traveling or at a gig. > I still dont know what went wrong,if it was a FW cable that burned my PCI card,RME,Presonus and macbook FW port,then i d be terrified to do a tour with this, > i didnt know that a FW cable can cause such damage! In that ruggedness discussion, I sometimes get the feeling that people compare things which can't be compared with each other properly. If you take as an example a musician who uses a setup of stomp boxes or rackmount effects, you'll usually find them mounted into shock-mount rack cases or specific cases for pedal boards, with everything screwed firmly in place, cables of fitting length tied together neatly etc. And these devices are constructed and made to be subjected to the perils of life on the road and to last for a long time. If you take a macbook, on the other hand, this is definitely not a device designed for life on the road, much less to last for a long time. As typically people tend to get a new computer every two years or so, this is the life span they target, and as most people usually have them either sitting on their desk or packed neatly in a stylish laptop bag and don't have them thrown by roadies etc., they will last for that time span. And finally, they are not made to be used in some kind of "fixed installation" (with all the cables permanently in place), so cables just come out at all ends - and to keep it cheap, cheap implementations are used for connectors which were designed cheaply in the first place. Mounting a laptop into a performance rig is one of the things that are as of now unresolved in my opinion. Although I've finally settled with integrating a laptop (as opposed to, say, a rackmount industry PC) into my rig, this is still the weak point of my setup. There are no mounting screws in my laptop. Connectors come out on different sides. Etc. etc. So if you'd compare (reliability of) computer-based solutions to stompbox/rack effects implementations, you'd need to consider computer made for being on the road: embedded/industry computers which adhere to the higher protection classes - together with fitting keyboard/pointer and screen, and mounted firmly in a rack. Still, by using prudent wiring, I think I am able to avoid things like firewire cables breaking. And besides, I don't power my firewire interface via the bus. Which brings me to your question: > But what about a bus powered FW soundcard like the RME FW400 or other? Simple: use the external power supply! > i guess there is no other way around it,wether is SW or HW you always need a backup. I was just thinking about that other post I read the other day where someone said "Have you ever heard of someone who brings a computer in case his pedalboard fails?". Seriously, although from most of our experiences it seems that computer setups more often tend to have a complete failure, it's not just that. When doing fault tree analysis, you usually consider for a system of several components a) how big the risk is that this specific component fails (as a sum of its different means of failure) and b) how hard that affects you. And when we look at the comparison of the three main setups we tend to see - A) pedalboard setup, B) rack setup, C) computer setup, and leave your instrument(s) out of the consideration for one moment, it's some like this. A: Failure risks for all components are more or less equal and not too high. What's more, usually none of the components is that pivotal and thus is a showstopper (with the possible exception of a central PSU) - meaning if your coveted MXR 90 phaser fails, you can simply patch around it and continue nearly unaffected. B: There is usually one pivotal component: the mixing console. For that reason, some people tend to bring a spare power supply for bigger consoles, because that seems to be the pivotal component that's most likely to fail (a single channel failing won't hurt you that much). C: So you have your computer, your interface and some means of MMI. If the computer or the interface fails, it's over. Completely. No audio without the computer or the interface. So as in C the risk of a single failure as a showstopper is the sum of the individual failure rates (as a number between 0 and 1) of the components, for A (if we assume that you have to stop if three pedals are gone) it's the product of the individual failure rates. In other words, if the failure risk both for a single stompbox and for a computer or interface was equal (which I'm not claiming) and 0.1 (10%, which I'm not claiming, either), then the risk of a complete breakdown was: for the computer 20%, for the pedalboard 0.1% which is 2000 times lower. What do we learn here? Change your computer setup so the single components aren't showstoppers. E.g. use an audio interface which allows for standalone operation (like your FF400) in combination with an additional simple effects device which would allow you to get going, and have adapters ready which allow you to work with your computer's integrated soundcard. Whoops, the cumulated failure rate has dropped from 20% to 1%. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 16:03:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D6613BEAF; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Jv0gr1SMqC59eIk9hW3pMyklX9q5y8o5wGozPtDl4mI=; b=c56ml27eiYDuAuj3cC3fqT1nfMXZnwrdds3z6zu49Nf3e/ymLdX/q/lUmZyP0ofgU6 aTRFrcWDzWfAKc8pIJ7sKjXBiWEQLjILgl7Pd19fdOcnvQhigS8z15tjS80DNuP+slmC Vyg4Z26TgNS1Ii4u4U63Bwq35a25hE82yWwu8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=a2mEbuukYWEVe86Oghrc88fE+51dRjUcd/xg0dFIhLZk0ENreByN9RnA4s3nUAqc4A 9by3G/NpUY2qoj2aiXmxAJr2iPkHbn+bGIAxEMI3D2FgH5vNeGYCixRr5ie2W4Cbs6sF mkcV07jrFJDkUjqZ3p9df5SSqKSuJcQg0/JPI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0904021244k7ace8b69mf536605d713f3bcb@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0904021235n2fdcbd59la62bc7d6e522da7@mail.gmail.com> <633F656F28D04E04A19C3B03979DA7A3@graphix> <66f9cc1e0904021244k7ace8b69mf536605d713f3bcb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:03:47 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0904030903o569c7e5l593a825a60ad4b14@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Early bird loopers with Live? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:03:48 +0000 (UTC) He, he... I flew in feeling like a precious Early Bird but got washed out like a Guinea Pig! ;-)) I just noticed this bug and wonder if anyone else have noticed? When recording a live input into the Looper plug-in, as Overdub, the overdubbing is stopped as soon as I start an empty "dummy" audio clip with clip envelopes to model Looper's parameter Speed. Second, I noticed that Live 8.0.1 ALWAYS crashes if opening the MIDI Map Mode window and mapping a MIDI Note to Looper's parameter Speed and setting the range to "Min 0, Max 0". The idea here is of course to set another MIDI note to match the next pitch in the scale - and so on for each half note step (gosh, wish it could also follow MIDI Notes!) The bottom line is that the two most immediate ways of playing the loop tonally from external MIDI is out of order. Wondering how that could pass the beta program... The best way to loop in Live 8 seems to use Looper as a silent dummy in order to secure a stable tempo pick-up, and then duplicate the same external MIDI events used for Looper to target also a good third-party looping plug-in as Mobius or Augustus Loop. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 16:10:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FAC13BEBE; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:10:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SpamGroup: 2000 X-CM-Cat: Undefined:Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=io1V8RJWGRUA:10 a=8uIE3MYZqW6QIy+cXdnP4A==:17 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=paUis6ZMAAAA:8 a=dMZfGW12AAAA:8 a=HF-Ro2gxzbOoE6yADIYA:9 a=WXpYLehgNLGtQWxPCNYA:7 a=yjsJuSoFKoDFc5h_UdB0M3BznqIA:4 a=oqs56FR1YJwA:10 a=mtSzdJXTV2gA:10 a=RyiL-aZl26MA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=1DhKs_9XVvs-NdFZd8sA:9 a=lbH_eUH2TVm5_h5zLFwA:7 a=p76I9SU8eGqTdtd_SUipsE0Y8KoA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Message-ID: <0EC91A5E216B4B07A02D498921606DEF@graphix> From: "rick miller" To: References: <66f9cc1e0904021235n2fdcbd59la62bc7d6e522da7@mail.gmail.com> <633F656F28D04E04A19C3B03979DA7A3@graphix> <66f9cc1e0904021244k7ace8b69mf536605d713f3bcb@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0904030903o569c7e5l593a825a60ad4b14@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Early bird loopers with Live? Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:10:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9B455.26D1E700" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:10:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9B455.26D1E700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds like you had a later go at the beta and may have an opinion on my = questions perhaps - Did they allow more than one overdub undo at latest check?? Also, with my echoplex I like to use NEXT LOOP and MULTIPLY to copy a = loop from loop1 to loop 2 alot and add onto it then in one go. I couldn't come up with a way to do this easily in the beta version = though. :O( I did notice as per your questions that each beta version had weird = little bugs that would come and go. I'm hopeful with fingers crossed the actual real version addresses all = these. Got me wondering before an upgrade. rick ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Per Boysen=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 12:03 PM Subject: Re: Early bird loopers with Live? He, he... I flew in feeling like a precious Early Bird but got washed out like a Guinea Pig! ;-)) I just noticed this bug and wonder if anyone else have noticed? When recording a live input into the Looper plug-in, as Overdub, the overdubbing is stopped as soon as I start an empty "dummy" audio clip with clip envelopes to model Looper's parameter Speed. Second, I noticed that Live 8.0.1 ALWAYS crashes if opening the MIDI Map Mode window and mapping a MIDI Note to Looper's parameter Speed and setting the range to "Min 0, Max 0". The idea here is of course to set another MIDI note to match the next pitch in the scale - and so on for each half note step (gosh, wish it could also follow MIDI Notes!) The bottom line is that the two most immediate ways of playing the loop tonally from external MIDI is out of order. Wondering how that could pass the beta program... The best way to loop in Live 8 seems to use Looper as a silent dummy in order to secure a stable tempo pick-up, and then duplicate the same external MIDI events used for Looper to target also a good third-party looping plug-in as Mobius or Augustus Loop. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9B455.26D1E700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sounds like you had a later go at the = beta and may=20 have an opinion on my questions perhaps -
 
Did they allow more than one overdub = undo at latest=20 check??
 
Also, with my echoplex I like to use = NEXT LOOP and=20 MULTIPLY to copy a loop from loop1 to loop 2 alot and add onto it then = in one=20 go.
I couldn't come up with a way to do = this easily in=20 the beta version though. :O(
 
I did notice as per your questions that = each beta=20 version had weird little bugs that would come and go.
I'm hopeful with fingers crossed the = actual real=20 version addresses all these. Got me wondering before an = upgrade.
 
rick
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Per = Boysen=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 = 12:03=20 PM
Subject: Re: Early bird loopers = with=20 Live?

He, he... I flew in feeling like a precious Early Bird = but got=20 washed
out like a Guinea Pig! ;-))

I just noticed this bug = and=20 wonder if anyone else have noticed? When
recording a live input = into the=20 Looper plug-in, as Overdub, the
overdubbing is stopped as soon as I = start=20 an empty "dummy" audio clip
with clip envelopes to model Looper's = parameter=20 Speed.

Second, I noticed that Live 8.0.1 ALWAYS crashes if = opening the=20 MIDI
Map Mode window and mapping a MIDI Note to Looper's parameter=20 Speed
and setting the range to "Min 0, Max 0". The idea here is of = course=20 to
set another MIDI note to match the next pitch in the scale - and = so=20 on
for each half note step (gosh, wish it could also follow MIDI=20 Notes!)

The bottom line is that the two most immediate ways of = playing=20 the
loop tonally from external MIDI is out of order. Wondering how=20 that
could pass the beta program...

The best way to loop in = Live 8=20 seems to use Looper as a silent dummy
in order to secure a stable = tempo=20 pick-up, and then duplicate the same
external MIDI events used for = Looper=20 to target also a good third-party
looping plug-in as Mobius or = Augustus=20 Loop.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com

------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C9B455.26D1E700-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 16:30:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B1583BED0; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:30:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=22JKVhVWhI1LXavVHvpQQ07Z6Z4/TAar4GL5ngnCyPs=; b=ZsMJw1N6nlwESBZQgeYi8DPjKCYW1IRHpgFjsoYHbLL//8jba331ku02+z62leysJ+ T2Xp6irSu4BvBJtDp6w/bColBeKYSU2MIwuYbwJKKSu3eaGr675UXhE+PZcIfT1w0WkO UoQ0ITNDmvg14kRKD2QBWZs41CWFQanKePXjg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=f0uFf/jktKB+BuPDBRa849mw4g3pchnWCH6Gx+kXwQw2/Q44MUPFXH2dUECzljYu6E ZorxQdnGlATU9KdeJKX4kFEUIUQKCJj3Hmr9TID1dh08aUPN+WICeCxL/PZ2CdUKXvaP xWUND12oxgkD6oTPPmTZ2Kjp6Wlh06iD9Fs7U= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0EC91A5E216B4B07A02D498921606DEF@graphix> References: <66f9cc1e0904021235n2fdcbd59la62bc7d6e522da7@mail.gmail.com> <633F656F28D04E04A19C3B03979DA7A3@graphix> <66f9cc1e0904021244k7ace8b69mf536605d713f3bcb@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0904030903o569c7e5l593a825a60ad4b14@mail.gmail.com> <0EC91A5E216B4B07A02D498921606DEF@graphix> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:30:34 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0904030930h4a2faaacud93efaf87faabe49@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Early bird loopers with Live? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:30:34 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:10 PM, rick miller wrote: > Sounds like you had a later go at the beta and may have an opinion on=A0m= y > questions perhaps - I'm talking about the release version. The beta cycle has ended now. > Did they allow more than one overdub undo at latest check?? The release version does not. The same virtual button is used for alternating between Undo and Redo. The Undo button erases everything that you've overdubbed since the last time Overdub was enabled. Your original recording, and anything that was overdubbed in a previous pass, is preserved. > Also, with my echoplex I like to use NEXT LOOP and MULTIPLY to copy a loo= p > from loop1 to loop 2 alot and add onto it then in one go. > I couldn't come up with a way to do this easily in the beta version thoug= h. > :O( Well, in order to do that in software you should use Mobius. First, Live 8 Looper doesn't have any Multiply, as understood in the EDP context. Looper has a function though that multiplies or devides the loop length by two. When multiplying the audio content is duplicated. Second, Looper can not cue up loops like we do on the EDP. > I did notice as per your questions that each beta version had weird littl= e > bugs that would come and go. > I'm hopeful with fingers crossed the actual real version addresses all > these. Got me wondering before an upgrade. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 16:44:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 889023BED9; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 395 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:44:21 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fbWZdKo/hUK8Eo0YbMn3wV0zTX4Bu1krf9PGehQD0ug=; b=LzIHhCHZfg2Dda1LN7r6+uvDaAG5Sf7HtJ3H1QgBsmdrVNs5yNpGOjNJnzRAaB6Z4C V8vDgreeXUKkraJl4KeeJb2Oa68Fh2ULuU1MeYUb5/pWjgiTT2N2Pcf9BkBobrlnF89h UjVGeFIsHnYx9nhN19NUBmHH3usYgIcfSdwzc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XB1Piao6qt5U6XRg2Q5gcfTN1CUwuNW9UBFLQzBcDKbVGvIb+35KKcVd+RF8hksZRl 57YErONWNEvnFWwgMQuR6c6vYjbhkwvmG7Awxjjsb79SKaEpiCSrAfbS8NR4CaGbykWS nUkKhEcnl00FzGOPjT5OfLOw7fnoptIWTaXe0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0904030930h4a2faaacud93efaf87faabe49@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0904021235n2fdcbd59la62bc7d6e522da7@mail.gmail.com> <633F656F28D04E04A19C3B03979DA7A3@graphix> <66f9cc1e0904021244k7ace8b69mf536605d713f3bcb@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0904030903o569c7e5l593a825a60ad4b14@mail.gmail.com> <0EC91A5E216B4B07A02D498921606DEF@graphix> <66f9cc1e0904030930h4a2faaacud93efaf87faabe49@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:37:45 -0400 Message-ID: <2871c3a90904030937p600c0e74k5850c32db8f97e1f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Early bird loopers with Live? From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cd54e229d5b0466a92bb6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:44:22 +0000 (UTC) --0015175cd54e229d5b0466a92bb6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can you have more than one looper running? Sylvain On 4/3/09, Per Boysen wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:10 PM, rick miller wrote: > > Sounds like you had a later go at the beta and may have an opinion on my > > questions perhaps - > > I'm talking about the release version. The beta cycle has ended now. > > > Did they allow more than one overdub undo at latest check?? > > The release version does not. The same virtual button is used for > alternating between Undo and Redo. The Undo button erases everything > that you've overdubbed since the last time Overdub was enabled. Your > original recording, and anything that was overdubbed in a previous > pass, > is preserved. > > > > Also, with my echoplex I like to use NEXT LOOP and MULTIPLY to copy a > loop > > from loop1 to loop 2 alot and add onto it then in one go. > > I couldn't come up with a way to do this easily in the beta version > though. > > :O( > > Well, in order to do that in software you should use Mobius. > > First, Live 8 Looper doesn't have any Multiply, as understood in the > EDP context. Looper has a function though that multiplies or devides > the loop length by two. When multiplying the audio content is > duplicated. Second, Looper can not cue up loops like we do on the EDP. > > I did notice as per your questions that each beta version had weird > little > > bugs that would come and go. > > I'm hopeful with fingers crossed the actual real version addresses all > > these. Got me wondering before an upgrade. > > Per > > --0015175cd54e229d5b0466a92bb6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Can you have more than one looper running?
Sylvain
=A0
On 4/3/09, P= er Boysen <perboysen@gmail.co= m> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:10 PM, = rick miller <bs@tanawana.com> = wrote:
> Sounds like you had a later go at the beta and may have an opinion on = my
> questions perhaps -

I'm talking about the release ver= sion. The beta cycle has ended now.

> Did they allow more than on= e overdub undo at latest check??

The release version does not. The same virtual button is used for
al= ternating between Undo and Redo. The Undo button erases everything
that = you've overdubbed since the last time Overdub was enabled. Your
original recording, and anything that was overdubbed in a previous
pass,=
is preserved.


> Also, with my echoplex I like to use NEXT= LOOP and MULTIPLY to copy a loop
> from loop1 to loop 2 alot and add= onto it then in one go.
> I couldn't come up with a way to do this easily in the beta versio= n though.
> :O(

Well, in order to do that in software you shou= ld use Mobius.

First, Live 8 Looper doesn't have any Multiply, a= s understood in the
EDP context. Looper has a function though that multiplies or devides
the= loop length by two. When multiplying the audio content is
duplicated. S= econd, Looper can not cue up loops like we do on the EDP.
> I did not= ice as per your questions that each beta version had weird little
> bugs that would come and go.
> I'm hopeful with fingers cros= sed the actual real version addresses all
> these. Got me wondering b= efore an upgrade.

Per


--0015175cd54e229d5b0466a92bb6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 16:53:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF11E3BE8C; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:53:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ecmxWGr9ujOsLnSsvkssfny5f+Laxf1j0cF0la68P88=; b=ayNDvLL4c92ffjfBi3osfxxuKoRIDvfGWd4ZAGdi6suXvuxwvEyIiSvWBQ7AaJ6o3w 0efxtYJ/VaINK9r8s97QPWGcAqb8CyTWKiZAN+/VPiJgz6FKr9FOhRqodqsBQgEMzPmV 0pCaOP0e/GCI9vcMPeLNcMaplMt5+LxNDfxpo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CDxrW0s9HTAQd+racaqLuIdoKtaHggJ6Cf3dToLypsdvNTIMow0CBSUCc0fLy+v2r1 qPSda3M9RtkNfKNBd8NGugEuMN1G9VWRnyeEd46ds0L4yJmfXLgQTKOxQ+XGl2Ge1L7c a1Nvz0ZvEhRU6kWjPrqzHhqq+suKbOLT+5KwM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2871c3a90904030937p600c0e74k5850c32db8f97e1f@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0904021235n2fdcbd59la62bc7d6e522da7@mail.gmail.com> <633F656F28D04E04A19C3B03979DA7A3@graphix> <66f9cc1e0904021244k7ace8b69mf536605d713f3bcb@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0904030903o569c7e5l593a825a60ad4b14@mail.gmail.com> <0EC91A5E216B4B07A02D498921606DEF@graphix> <66f9cc1e0904030930h4a2faaacud93efaf87faabe49@mail.gmail.com> <2871c3a90904030937p600c0e74k5850c32db8f97e1f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:53:20 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0904030953j1761e65k75dc5179a3544d77@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Early bird loopers with Live? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:53:20 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Sylvain Poitras wrote: > Can you have more than one looper running? Of course, any plug-in can be opened in an infinite number of instances! And with that I'm done with Live 8 for a while, being too busy rehearsing live looping with another software setup. per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 17:12:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 808A83BE8B; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:12:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <28069.65.48.1238778751.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:12:31 -0400 (AST) Subject: vst preamp for clean classical guitar From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:12:31 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Anyone have any suggestions for a vst preamp for clean classical guitar. I want to start with clean tones and mangle them later. Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 17:43:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14AC03BE89; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:43:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238780628; bh=yQsPWW5tIcA4lyExTNO9GVtQFwrzMbd6wZusmPdx+9w=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=S4V2RS/Z4pDT41QjVU8gvN+1m5372YpNOk7eJclLEOKgUzPmkNLXDwMnXzlkbIeiFdGOPZnHwNOyXr3F38DxTP5cViLWY87quqo6QpBG2LkWb7HQFIEMufKj/7eLk4L+o0MSKOGBc8xR4LreMXbArdo/m6SZxZS80LA0ogwrnTQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DL09YGV9hxQKQPuUkFfBQsBYo2GSwgDpu1vsSrp+irbJ1hPneT3SAiMjrtacRHq0zq0OC4nSfNdnaA2MCk7U/YVvz75Zh7VVwnR0cX+lbKv9i1+Ka0v1uhPGfmMSxepna8V2JIsGc4v8x434LGF/ehRf+fev/LxkYxgX0cJrvR4=; Message-ID: <837767.76262.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: k1FEtoEVM1nchjs70cYNfuxT73qEDMHp.VFeDB9yhkG7gcEL.bC65Qhe4CtLTfEeAXcPgf35v_FMAYOKa_.JgJpIhWigh.VlkMG0FBGyI_okZO78NVocRf2m8cSWv9720ckIxVoPI6tGlpp8P93NiPOJUMl1Jka_i9ezX8QxgehPpaSZERl4YvQs2k4uUFFkU4Y9wxp2Y.e68_tbqnBgd4OYmU.uMmy80UHXvvlIaCJc7ptLb1AvQuU9.T1TAPXINmO2eHbrj4W3dhgA7o6vpgMh1n4wA0XJOlMJfqsOIQEX_RtjNBOHsPA- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.15 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:43:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Firewire vs USB (WAS: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:43:49 +0000 (UTC) Ja wohl mein freund,aber so =E4hnlich sieht mein Rig im moment aus!=0AThis = is why i i am still hauling my pedalboard with stomps and the good ol DL4 b= esides my lappy which has replaced my EDP.I thought by getting the Motu i c= ould further economize on the mixer and perhaps later on VSTs to economize= on the stomps but...=0Anot yet anyway;-)=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A> =0A> What = do we learn here? Change your computer setup so the=0A> single=0A> componen= ts aren't showstoppers. E.g. use an audio interface=0A> which=0A> allows fo= r standalone operation (like your FF400) in=0A> combination with=0A> an add= itional simple effects device which would allow you=0A> to get=0A> going, a= nd have adapters ready which allow you to work with=0A> your=0A> computer's= integrated soundcard. Whoops, the cumulated=0A> failure rate=0A> has dropp= ed from 20% to 1%.=0A> =0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=0A> =A0=A0=A0Rainer=0A> =0A= > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 18:11:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB6EF3BE88; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KubVjnyfwDXnnUt8vKZvJPG//1/6o+1yYT6CB31MQsE=; b=BCyaAu1wDahrFh3IkMorNgV25oaEKzPyWpH0mFWVwqNAOqQfNlkjaetrdnDqKxEZqJ 7VD7XpE4mgveCpF7/w5wkiK8r8dpAIeFvDzspMqlJN/VhUx/wAuRQ2Zx8SdrQePM+K3R JyXCqboP5kqjv/WYrrDZSnfCyAjdUEm/4SOOc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MpuSn0Vhq9ji0D6KGpNV7Xop8N6wiuDN9B26gCtZWTS62T2A2lMT8W7FdwneDKulaX z6Y+dnKkvhnsgLJoqzJEpumPSXCWrdEquVFo4HAjwmN0zgUH7cRWUnaHTs7fJFwtTZ4i s47L0xGa3S1Ma7avFu7LLalQnfJtlLkCRuZZU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <28069.65.48.1238778751.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <28069.65.48.1238778751.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:11:50 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0904031111m46ac6351n8e6a97de816a33b4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: vst preamp for clean classical guitar From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:11:50 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Andr=E9 Donawa wrot= e: > Anyone have any suggestions for a vst preamp for clean classical guitar. > I want to start with clean tones and mangle them later. An equalizer and compressor plug-in would do well in simulating a pre-amp typically used for that instrument, since the ideal here is a transparent amplification. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 18:49:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38BAF3BE84; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:49:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 147252 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:49:07 UTC Message-Id: From: tyler newman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090403145714.BDFD03BEC1@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:48:58 -0700 References: <20090403145714.BDFD03BEC1@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:49:08 +0000 (UTC) hi- if you want to try doing a proper A/B test of mp3 compression, perhaps this piece of software would help add a little scientific rigour to the process... http://cs.brown.edu/~tl/software.shtml take a look at the "MacABX" tool. seems like it would certainly help limit the bias... good luck!! - tyler / informatik From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 20:35:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3144D3BE80; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:35:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tFD/Ehe6aOHNztgdvVEIn/SH54FIiipJZpmzU0i5Lfw=; b=hIknAYL6UasYjzMKxg6PHxen3t1st7okzJUKTlBCDYp4XB6gP3FEJ5rhXGKtqJm6v+ SjWdUq5R+IHudprOgIMXi9th2Xr3oYUgcwDO2U5bb9KCdoXFXXkwhblHadpd9ID+8DWF K7gbULkF3M2szFwZM3lNVc+8CLYthW4BLzUsM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=f2CTgfxQKwDfjK+9TMWy/GdArdPulFcMcqhzdWw/q4dJUS4s+VYpFBf567v+Ol4H51 uigqCU+7b2WmwA8KwURcIYJuzaTV/P9jhjdaCSKduGDAks0Hv9jl/SCLiVjq+9dGN5e2 X9CW17yJ1m708qll9sEITXrr2xvn3QatLi4Wk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:35:34 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Matt's doubts about drum and bass From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:35:37 +0000 (UTC) I liked drum and bass for about 6 months in the 90s, and then it went stale for me pretty quickly after that. As a genre, it sounded amazing when it first started getting around, but then there was no evolution. As more and more musicians started doing it I was disappointed by how little variation there was from artist to artist. It was like being told the same very funny joke over and over again. So when I first saw that youtube clip, I was like - Aha! That explains it! I find it appealing that a large pool of musicians could do different things with the same source material. The problem with DnB for me is that I don't feel like they're doing different things. The amen break is almost always front and center in the mix, and with all but a few artists the way it's sampled/deconstructed is virtually the same, except for the occasional pitch bend here and there. So to answer your question, I always thought that most DnB after 1997 or so was pretty unoriginal - unforgivably so after 2000. I didn't know until I saw the video that they were literally using the exact same drum sample. I've known since 1999 or so that there is software that you can drop a drum beat into and have it automatically "jungle-ized". Still, I think this story about the Amen Break is probably one of the top 5 most interesting stories in the history of electronic music. Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com At first I was like: >>I'm dumbfounded by >> what it reveals about Drum n Bass music. Can any DnB fans help me out? >> How could an entire genre of musicians use the exact same drum loop as >> the central focus of so many of their songs - for like 15 years? Them Marc Francombe was all: > Well thats an interesting question, and I wonder whether you thought it up > before or AFTER you heard this documentary? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 21:31:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6ABB03BE82; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1238794313; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=BUwdIIVt1mNjWFSFZS5icLTSc18=; b=o+n+renPBYDcMh4Dt4AfSHTyVPe3IHQHAU/uBANgpmpWpCYH6bm9+jdBkFvT0eOk /Ihj2HRprI5SaZsy1pHMPkiGNymD71GJ84j/nnrAri3tQf+/7O3YU9BB+p9+QGFH; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hLVndRFCAAAA:8 a=WnzYjt4fAAAA:8 a=PMF4g2laAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=B8CpycrvAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=8U_8BYAIAAAA:20 a=X8lw9rmGAAAA:8 a=bPRY5B5hB_CnGWJFsGQA:9 a=TnAo7tb-WXaF7Cs9fLR7fwvTbmQA:4 a=3I_whO4B8K8A:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000501c9b4a3$9bbdb5a0$8bc6e843@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: New tunes up Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:31:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <-brN1.A.hKG.KBo1JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Just a note to post a collection of odds and ends, loosetunes and offall from the studio floor. I released it under my Drachton Below project moniker. Mostly live looping with some found sounds spliced in on a couple of tunes. I play oud, acoustic and electric guitar, loops and electronics. It kind of grew on me like a bad rash. :) Get it free here: http://thisphase.org/tunes/Wait_For_Them.rar best, Jeff http://jeffduke.org/ http://virb.com/jeffduke http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ Ad astra per alia porci - Steinbeck From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 21:36:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B01DD3BE82; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:36:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=U6Ij2B4QHgiKgoDKgRpGP/P90zFphii3Qou2kHu6IH7wjgNboJ7IqvRjTpvJARB3; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <20090403145714.BDFD03BEC1@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:35:12 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec796eb4fdeb8ada7c1c14766dec95a9f195350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:36:27 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the link, tyler! >hi- > >if you want to try doing a proper A/B test of mp3 compression, >perhaps this piece of software would help add a little scientific >rigour to the process... > >http://cs.brown.edu/~tl/software.shtml > >take a look at the "MacABX" tool. seems like it would certainly help >limit the bias... > >good luck!! > >- tyler / informatik -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 22:21:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E10293BE7F; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <18362.65.48.1238797268.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0904031111m46ac6351n8e6a97de816a33b4@mail.gmail.com> References: <28069.65.48.1238778751.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <66f9cc1e0904031111m46ac6351n8e6a97de816a33b4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:21:08 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: vst preamp for clean classical guitar From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Per, Sound Advice. :) I'll give it a go. Andre On Fri, April 3, 2009 2:11 pm, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 7:12 PM, André Donawa > wrote: >> Anyone have any suggestions for a vst preamp for clean classical guitar. >> I want to start with clean tones and mangle them later. > > An equalizer and compressor plug-in would do well in simulating a > pre-amp typically used for that instrument, since the ideal here is a > transparent amplification. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 22:27:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 890083BE81; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zaU87c1Et15zJxDXwzZgSiNPdqfXPV/18mABqMhGa9E=; b=C4Ow0BEMN2OygC+BYY9aPDYW5UE7DOTNWpBGq4TvYMwhg5vP6j6NuBeHM/FdAZ+vcA sqEDNlzr9n9LGItUBFuIVQmGLYAYFZNInoWP+GEpZLYLh0TpOEecSdLwS9UzucEoIV9c JVRKvpd3Cxzlc9x350byS2H/WG0p/4xlgHrSA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EZ9wWPAbng9ODr6FhrfvTBnC8lpomoXLLRcfsL7ahpQbpjAho3k1cSpq5uH66mO5Rd lrNgj2f+fD31qVkfFsD9FhEiQLYyHgT8w0hD+zhgJ54Fu0dak2EU+21uAJZZbI01XJwy vW6QUY8OgPtdJw3FWKmjhPjOEkexOcgzsUIh0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:27:44 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: European Live Looping Festival '09 From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002215046c8bbce53d0466ae0e0f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:27:45 +0000 (UTC) --002215046c8bbce53d0466ae0e0f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dang it ... I'll still be in Zadar on the 30th and get in to Paris on the morning of the 31st. I leave Paris the morning of 1 June ... is there anything else going on? For what it's worth, I'm in Dubrovnik from the 23rd to 27th, then up to Zadar, and then home by way of Paris. Dennis On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Sjaak wrote: > > By the way: Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe > > this year? Does anyone know ? > > Hi, > Fabio Anile and me are organizing the European Live Looping Festival '09: > * May 30 - Antwerp, Belgium > * June 6 - Rome, Ialy > > Btw: I'm organizing the Antwerp festival. Any info regarding artists, > tickets etc can be found on the website http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp o= r > if you have any questions, please let me know. > --- > Sjaak > http://euroloopfest.com/ > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw > > > __________________________________ > Scarlet schrapt download limiet! > ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. > Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! > > --=20 http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --002215046c8bbce53d0466ae0e0f Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dang it ... I'll still be in Zadar on the 30th and get in to Paris on t= he morning of the 31st. I leave Paris the morning of=A0 1 June ... is there= anything else going on? For what it's worth, I'm in Dubrovnik from= the 23rd to 27th, then up to Zadar, and then home by way of Paris.

Dennis

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:30 AM= , Sjaak <tcplug= in@scarlet.be> wrote:
> By the way: Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe
> this year? Does anyone know ?

Hi,
Fabio Anile and me are organizing the European Live Looping Festival '0= 9:
* May 30 - Antwerp, Belgium
* June 6 - Rome, Ialy

Btw: I'm organizing the Antwerp festival. Any info regarding artists, t= ickets etc can be found on the website http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp or if you hav= e any questions, please let me know.
---
Sjaak
http://euroloopfest.= com/
http://sjaakoverga= auw.com/
http= ://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw


__________________________________
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Ga naar www.scarlet.be<= /a> voor meer info!




--
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http://audiozoloft.com
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--002215046c8bbce53d0466ae0e0f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 23:14:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C42D3BE80; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sMqePf4e2h8AzLfhmE6RtNxNqEYUnD693cPss6tOAmI=; b=qUkxY3CIOSElvY5S4mkTUM/deCI6K5XpzfdSJMX4DDN8iDNj4HjWDktp2OKrkd3Tqi OyJq66Gr9G3BanXnIOhR/bICzLrEN40ImRDhp2NQb/uBLB/+W7NLTHo3Yj+dxe18Rlt6 +Dot3FwwSIkrnmVgnamnBE37QfwsujaS1tRdE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=e4su+ghtWlf6IXCmAhh13/qQebdmwe9DQV9+dMD88mr49XlHy7cqcKvWnY1S3dWKY6 kZJJN+mTvFuaaX+r52iih+HqaqMCP8Rwe4LpQcG3g6qgAo6YrYupKR6HPvDKPkQ4fJ1t Lk4bwyYLjXbQkNmKHpUOJnP1X1GPfYPCrZS0Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 01:14:19 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: European Live Looping Festival '09 From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be8785d75070466aeb5f4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:14:21 +0000 (UTC) --0015174be8785d75070466aeb5f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the website looks gorgeous! hope you have a great night of live loopery. any info or website for the rome gig, fabio? 2009/4/3 Sjaak > > By the way: Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe > > this year? Does anyone know ? > > Hi, > Fabio Anile and me are organizing the European Live Looping Festival '09: > * May 30 - Antwerp, Belgium > * June 6 - Rome, Ialy > > Btw: I'm organizing the Antwerp festival. Any info regarding artists, > tickets etc can be found on the website http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp o= r > if you have any questions, please let me know. > --- > Sjaak > http://euroloopfest.com/ > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw > > > __________________________________ > Scarlet schrapt download limiet! > ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. > Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0015174be8785d75070466aeb5f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the website looks gorgeous!
hope you have a great night
of live loope= ry.

any info or website for the rome
gig, fabio?


2009/4/3 Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be>
> By the way: = Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe
> this year? Does anyone know ?

Hi,
Fabio Anile and me are organizing the European Live Looping Festival '0= 9:
* May 30 - Antwerp, Belgium
* June 6 - Rome, Ialy

Btw: I'm organizing the Antwerp festival. Any info regarding artists, t= ickets etc can be found on the website http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp or if you hav= e any questions, please let me know.
---
Sjaak
http://euroloopfest.= com/
http://sjaakoverga= auw.com/
http= ://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw


__________________________________
Scarlet schrapt download limiet!
ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95.
Ga naar www.scarlet.be<= /a> voor meer info!




--
Raul Bonell at Blogger:= http://raulbonell.blogspot.com<= /a>
Chain Tape Collective: http= ://www.ct-collective.com

--0015174be8785d75070466aeb5f4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 3 23:16:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB4AA3BE88; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:16:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49D698C6.9010906@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:16:22 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Review posted: Jeff Duke's "Loops in Phase Space" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:16:30 +0000 (UTC) I've written up seven tracks from Jeff Duke, part of a larger collection called "Loops in Phase Space" (or LIPS, a title I'm kinda partial to..). http://www.swanwelder.com/mutereactionary/Jeff_Duke.htm Other fine folks have sent me stuff, too, and hopefully I can get to those in the next month or so before I split on tour. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 4 00:52:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D229F3BE78; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 00:52:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: <28069.65.48.1238778751.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Subject: RE: vst preamp for clean classical guitar Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:52:05 -0700 Message-ID: <843515E5BD2943138AD199F121326715@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <28069.65.48.1238778751.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acm0ve8Dm5vzpDbQQPqodovi73eUkgAAHXYQ Resent-Message-ID: <_LSEiB.A.D4E.68q1JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 00:52:10 +0000 (UTC) I can't say enough good things about the Universal Audio UAD series of = plug in bundles. , which, being far from a free vst plug-ins, have an = incredible assortment of classic Neve pre-amp modules, Pultec equalizers, and LA-2 = and 3 compressors. The great thing about the UAD other than its sound is the fact that you won't be using your computers CPU to drive it. The only = draw back is that it's more expensive. But if you consider how much real Neve preamps and Putnam designed tube compressors cost, it's an amazing = bargain.=20 Bill -----Original Message----- From: Andr=E9 Donawa [mailto:andre@andredonawa.com]=20 Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 10:13 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: vst preamp for clean classical guitar Hi, Anyone have any suggestions for a vst preamp for clean classical guitar. I want to start with clean tones and mangle them later. Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 4 01:10:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B87883BE79; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 01:10:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1238807402; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=0VAyAn/yX2+IDrFM9jAcxGNQJ90=; b=oR/nrKnH1CwVNXesUo1QPisb4PKS0as0l1vR6fSXuXaCKRtkvi46i8FxE+YljGtX ztlwGjIEZ+NOwcrJg3G9CdA3gpkQinFlHiylunNXZILm0bDb47oIwziZ9FKIsGJd; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=0ru_VpKua5kA:10 a=F-M1c35pW38A:10 a=UwE3cuQ_AAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=jsjmMl50AAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=3ArxG3nfT5Hnk6bx1IcA:9 a=zhLukv49oabc8mHS4-AA:7 a=X3g5Gj32rPZxqUia4lkTyn3Oy1gA:4 a=oltf0pfCdT4A:10 a=BpqUGxorProA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000a01c9b4c2$14df1870$8bc6e843@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <49D698C6.9010906@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: Review posted: Jeff Duke's "Loops in Phase Space" Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:10:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 01:10:02 +0000 (UTC) Daryl, thanks for taking the time to review this collection. I am glad you dug it. From your other reviews I knew that you are one for really listening to music and I value your thoughts highly. You and so many others on this list have been a tremendous positive influence on my creative spirit. I am looking forward to meeting you and many others at Y2K9! Rock on! All the best, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" To: Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 7:16 PM Subject: Review posted: Jeff Duke's "Loops in Phase Space" > I've written up seven tracks from Jeff Duke, part of a larger collection > called "Loops in Phase Space" (or LIPS, a title I'm kinda partial to..). > > http://www.swanwelder.com/mutereactionary/Jeff_Duke.htm > > Other fine folks have sent me stuff, too, and hopefully I can get to those > in the next month or so before I split on tour. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 4 01:33:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 955573BE73; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 01:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49D6B8F3.2040702@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:33:39 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Review posted: Jeff Duke's "Loops in Phase Space" References: <49D698C6.9010906@mhorse.com> <000a01c9b4c2$14df1870$8bc6e843@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <000a01c9b4c2$14df1870$8bc6e843@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 01:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Jeff, the pleasure was all mine. looking forward to meeting up and hearing you play at the fest too! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Daryl, thanks for taking the time to review this collection. I am glad > you dug it. From your other reviews I knew that you are one for really > listening to music and I value your thoughts highly. You and so many > others on this list have been a tremendous positive influence on my > creative spirit. I am looking forward to meeting you and many others > at Y2K9! Rock on! > > All the best, > > Jeff > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 7:16 PM > Subject: Review posted: Jeff Duke's "Loops in Phase Space" > > >> I've written up seven tracks from Jeff Duke, part of a larger >> collection called "Loops in Phase Space" (or LIPS, a title I'm kinda >> partial to..). >> >> http://www.swanwelder.com/mutereactionary/Jeff_Duke.htm >> >> Other fine folks have sent me stuff, too, and hopefully I can get to >> those in the next month or so before I split on tour. >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.285 / Virus Database: 270.11.41/2040 - Release Date: 04/03/09 17:54:00 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 4 06:39:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E81CD3BE78; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:39:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 945 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 06:39:27 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date :references; bh=Kg/uQteykb1inf5xS/uyhinA/MBOAq+YozKmS9sp/KY=; b=JI9xELbbF3LnkmQOSMol/L6CHE371DL4Oqfb2t7vcJ1vRDgPvmCb2/5mneSQznxhSm TzaW/3/yX+Tdrpvp/V+VKsrssi3NEZMtmOjbgny43h2LExcxpcNw3srA4zV18/1odYn8 1DXbZkCtlHKI+IFuj0N2bTDcxHYYuiZES7AKs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:x-mailer:mime-version :subject:date:references; b=O5dXCOEL0QNP59eY7oafElB+x5bFIwNJMAVm9yzZHjCAG4SEdrDq8mJKMHCAwssaRr i2Xncbm6lIEW4JYSREfMrKa3pUo8oJ4H8Qw06ih+AFI7QkeIcjd6NT8YQYemSo817QR8 X6+lrcX3IKeTOKMwTwUa38J2ee3mk7ed3GKQ4= Message-Id: From: "fabio@nile" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-673153408 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5H11) Subject: Re: European Live Looping Festival '09 Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:17:53 +0200 References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:39:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-673153408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope the website will be on line in a few days..,stay tuned.... Fabio Il giorno 04/apr/09, alle ore 01:14, Raul Bonell =20 ha scritto: > the website looks gorgeous! > hope you have a great night > of live loopery. > > any info or website for the rome > gig, fabio? > > > 2009/4/3 Sjaak > > By the way: Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe > > this year? Does anyone know ? > > Hi, > Fabio Anile and me are organizing the European Live Looping Festival =20= > '09: > * May 30 - Antwerp, Belgium > * June 6 - Rome, Ialy > > Btw: I'm organizing the Antwerp festival. Any info regarding =20 > artists, tickets etc can be found on the website = http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp=20 > or if you have any questions, please let me know. > --- > Sjaak > http://euroloopfest.com/ > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw > > > __________________________________ > Scarlet schrapt download limiet! > ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =E2=82=AC 29,95. > Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! > > > > > --=20 > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > --Apple-Mail-1-673153408 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I hope the website will be on line = in a few days..,stay = tuned....

Fabio


Il giorno = 04/apr/09, alle ore 01:14, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> ha = scritto:

the = website looks gorgeous!
hope you have a great night
of live = loopery.

any info or website for the rome
gig, = fabio?


2009/4/3 Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be>
> By = the way: Are there any Looping-Festivals in Europe
> this year? Does anyone know ?

Hi,
Fabio Anile and me are organizing the European Live Looping Festival = '09:
* May 30 - Antwerp, Belgium
* June 6 - Rome, Ialy

Btw: I'm organizing the Antwerp festival. Any info regarding artists, = tickets etc can be found on the website http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp or if you have any questions, please let me know.
---
Sjaak
http://euroloopfest.com/
http://sjaakovergaauw.com/
= http://www.last.fm/music= /Sjaak+Overgaauw


__________________________________
Scarlet schrapt download limiet!
ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =E2=82=AC 29,95.
Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer = info!




--
Raul Bonell at = Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com=
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com=

= --Apple-Mail-1-673153408-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 4 10:44:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAAD63BE78; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:44:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:44:03 +0200 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0904040344i7c70efc0qd28d2becaa281352@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Matt's doubts about drum and bass From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bef9e7365e0466b858be Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:44:19 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bef9e7365e0466b858be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No.. but you ARE right of course... alot of Jungle IS CRAP!!! AND there is alot of jungle... sorry, you calling it Drum and Bass... I still call it Jungle usually, I know te difference, but I dont think about it.. I think for me it not been about whether individual musicians tracks are better of different from each others.. for me theres just been Jungle in my life for 15 years (the documentary says 10, but I KNOW what I was listening to in these grimy clubs in '89 90.. and that WAS jungle, or some kinda pre-cursor to it...) There has been no evolution per se, you are right... theres been a rise, a fall, a renaming (J becomes D&B), a rise again, a fall, a reappropriation ( by so called IDM artists, Aphex and Autecre to name but...) a commercialisation (anyone hear the AWFUL Bowie album, shame on him) a fall, and then now a bit of a rise again (maybe beat-boxing has someting to do with this, or Dubstep, Grime scene. To say Jungle has had no evolution is true, Jungle is a sound, a way of using the top and bottom of the freq spec (not much mid in Jungle) a mix between super fast sped up drums and slow low end dubby bass.. that certainly has been used abused re-used and re-abused, to an extent that I find very interesting... Mark > > At first I was like: > >>I'm dumbfounded by > >> what it reveals about Drum n Bass music. Can any DnB fans help me out? > >> How could an entire genre of musicians use the exact same drum loop as > >> the central focus of so many of their songs - for like 15 years? > > Them Marc Francombe was all: > > Well thats an interesting question, and I wonder whether you thought it > up > > before or AFTER you heard this documentary? > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5bef9e7365e0466b858be Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No.. but you ARE right of course... alot of Jungle IS CRAP!!! AND there is = alot of jungle... sorry, you calling it Drum and Bass... I still call it Ju= ngle usually, I know te difference, but I dont think about it.. I think for= me it not been about whether individual musicians tracks are better of dif= ferent from each others.. for me theres just been Jungle in my life for 15 = years (the documentary says 10, but I KNOW what I was listening to in these= grimy clubs in '89 90.. and that WAS jungle, or some kinda pre-cursor = to it...)

There has been no evolution per se, you are right... theres been a rise= , a fall, a renaming (J becomes D&B), a rise again, a fall, a reappropr= iation ( by so called IDM artists, Aphex and Autecre to name but...) a comm= ercialisation (anyone hear the AWFUL Bowie album, shame on him) a fall, and= then now a bit of a rise again (maybe beat-boxing has someting to do with = this, or Dubstep, Grime scene.

To say Jungle has had no evolution is true, Jungle is a sound, a way of= using the top and bottom of the freq spec (not much mid in Jungle) a mix b= etween super fast sped up drums and slow low end dubby bass.. that certainl= y has been used abused re-used and re-abused, to an extent that I find very= interesting...

Mark




At first I was like:
>>I'm dumbfounded by
>> what it reveals about Drum n Bass music. Can any DnB fans help me = out?
>> How could an entire genre of musicians use the exact same drum loo= p as
>> the central focus of so many of their songs - for like 15 years?
Them Marc Francombe was all:
> Well thats an interesting question, and I wonder whether you thought i= t up
> before or AFTER you heard this documentary?




--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
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